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Subject: Re: The gmane issue
From: JC Dill <inet-list @ vo . cnchost . com>
Date: Mon, 19 Aug 2002 19:40:01 -0700
To: List-Managers @ greatcircle . com
In-reply-to: <5.1.0.14.2.20020819160244.1386bfa0@127.0.0.1>
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On 02:44 PM 8/19/02, Nick Simicich wrote:
 >At 11:15 AM 2002-08-19 -0700, Chuq Von Rospach wrote:
 >
 >
 >>On Monday, August 19, 2002, at 10:38  AM, Norbert Bollow wrote:
 >>>Actually I believe that such a responsibility exists only where
 >>>the list-owners want the situation to be different from the default
 >>>that is implied by copyright law, namely:
 >>>
 >>>* Without explicit permission, no-one is allowed to mirror the list,
 >>>   or create public archives.
 >
 >1.  There are two issues here.  One is the individual poster's implied
 >permission.  It is my belief that, barring a statement that changes
 >expectations, that the original posted has not implied that their posting
 >can be copied to archives other than the ones that are associated with the
 >list mechanics.

Sure they have.  I have a complete archive of list-managers on my hard 
drive, including your posts.  You SENT them to me (via the list), so 
clearly you gave me permission to have a copy and to keep it.

 >Someone who establishes an external archive is violating my collection
 >copyright, as well as violating the copyrights of the individual authors.

How is my making my archive available for others to see any different than 
a library making a magazine subscription available for others to see (read 
or borrow)?

jc




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