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Subject: Re: Purging schedules
From: Nick Simicich <njs @ scifi . squawk . com>
Date: Sat, 23 Nov 2002 05:42:40 -0500
To: "List Managers" <List-Managers @ greatcircle . com>
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At 11:52 PM 2002-11-22 -0600, David W. Tamkin wrote:
>Someone whose subscription request is forged and who then refuses to confirm
>has never opted in at all.  Someone who honestly sends a subscription request
>under his/her own email address, but who then neglects to confirm or declines
>to confirm has opted in only once.  Neither is enough to get subscribed.
>
>Someone who does get onto the list has opted in twice: once by sending a
>subscription request that later was confirmed, and a second time by confirming
>it.  When I went to school, one plus one equaled two.  So I still hold that
>"double opt-in" is a valid term and bears no trace of thinking like a spammer.
>I've said my piece and am done with it.

And the situation where someone who is actually a friend (as opposed to the 
spam style) legitimately sends a subscribe in for someone else as an 
invitation and they confirm only once but they are still on the list is how 
many opt-ins?

It is confirmation, not double opt-in.  They confirm that they are at that 
address and they want to subscribe.

Double opt-in, historically, was a spammer invented term (go look in 
google) to make it seem harder than it should be to get on a list and to 
add an air of legitimacy to the habit of accepting an e-mail address typed 
in on a web site as "good enough".


--
If you doubt that magnet therapy works, I put to you this observation: When 
refrigerators were first invented, in the 1940s, they were rather 
unreliable, but then they became significantly more reliable. The basic 
design of the refrigerator did not change, and we all know that quality was 
important back then, so I doubt that newer refrigerators are made better. 
Refrigerators have become more reliable because of the rise of the 
refrigerator magnet.
Nick Simicich - njs@scifi.squawk.com


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