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Subject: Re: Check out AOL Users Missing Email??
From: J C Lawrence <claw @ kanga . nu>
Date: Mon, 27 Jan 2003 14:56:55 -0800
To: Bob Bish <bobbish @ earthlink . net>
Cc: list-managers @ GreatCircle . COM
In-reply-to: Message from Bob Bish <bobbish@earthlink.net> of "Mon, 27 Jan 2003 13:09:39 MST." <5.2.0.9.2.20030127130128.00b81738@pop.earthlink.net>
References: <17463.1043693675@kanga.nu> <loekjehe@xs4all.nl> <a05210206ba5b1f50fe8e@[24.132.50.105]> <5.2.0.9.2.20030127130128.00b81738@pop.earthlink.net>

On Mon, 27 Jan 2003 13:09:39 -0700
Bob Bish <bobbish@earthlink.net> wrote:

> To get un-blacklisted, their legal dept. wants one to sign one's life
> away.  See:

> http://www.mailinglists.org/aol/

> which contains the actual document from AOL's legal staff.  Read it.
> It is absurd.

I'll comment merely that the only item there I find validly
objectionable is #13.

   All mail from Mailinglists.org must have a valid non-internet (a
   phone number, a snail mail address, etc.) contact in the text of
   every message.

Which is not surprising given the corporate marketing mail I expect they
are geared towards.

All the rest, encluding the bits about monitoring, are both standard
practice and expectable.  Heck, its like the Squid logs at most
corporates.  Typically company policy is that those logs are private,
will not be examined, and will not reviewed, reported etc.  However, we
all know full well that at the very first instant there's an suspicion
of just cause that those very logs will be hauled on deck and used...

You sent a byte into my network?  Fine.  What I do with it from there is
up to me, encluding silent discard, public rebroadcast, or insertion
into my bork filter.  cf the MAPS and the Above.net routing debate.

--
J C Lawrence
---------(*)                Satan, oscillate my metallic sonatas.
claw@kanga.nu               He lived as a devil, eh?
http://www.kanga.nu/~claw/  Evil is a name of a foeman, as I live.



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