On Sunday, February 23, 2003, at 11:27 AM, Roger B.A. Klorese wrote:
> Rich Kulawiec wrote:
>
>> FUD. I'm unaware of any properly-run opt-in mailing lists that have
>> been mislabeled as spam and "wrongly blocked".
>>
> Well, then it's an awareness issue at your side.
Here's some stuff to help awareness. First, the couple of links you
should read if you don't want to go through all these links:
http://www.plaidworks.com/chuqui/blog/000118.html
http://www.plaidworks.com/chuqui/blog/000109.html
Other stuff I've blogged on the topic:
http://www.plaidworks.com/chuqui/blog/000081.html
http://www.plaidworks.com/chuqui/blog/000144.html
http://www.plaidworks.com/chuqui/blog/000149.html
http://www.plaidworks.com/chuqui/blog/000170.html
http://www.plaidworks.com/chuqui/blog/000170.html
http://www.plaidworks.com/chuqui/blog/000182.html
http://www.plaidworks.com/chuqui/blog/000184.html
http://www.plaidworks.com/chuqui/blog/000200.html
http://www.plaidworks.com/chuqui/blog/000096.html
It's getting brutal out there. I've got a bunch more stuff I haven't
had time to write up.
I'm glad rich doesn't think there's a problem. I wish I could live in
whatever bubble of reality he's found, because out here with the rest
of us, e-mail is rapidly falling apart, not just because of spam, but
because of the increasingly hysterial (and badly done) reactions to the
spam.
I have great sympathy for the people trying to stop the spam, but it's
gone beyond "baby with the bathwater" to "turning the flame thrower on
the fricking bathtub". And they are increasingly uninterested in
hearing when their "anti-spam" efforts backfire and turn into an even
bigger problem.
> In other cases, complaints of spam came *because* of confirmation
> messages -- we've been listed at Spamcop because of users getting
> subscribe-slammed and reporting our confirmation messages as spam.
I've found spamcop quite clueful about these problems, and have been
more than willing to remove those complaints and ban the complainers
from submitting to Spamcop in the future. They're one of the few
blackhole groups I've looked at that I'm willing to support.
--
Chuq Von Rospach, Architech
chuqui@plaidworks.com -- http://www.plaidworks.com/chuqui/blog/
No! No! Dead girl, OFF the table! -- Shrek
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