On Monday, February 24, 2003, at 04:17 AM, Rich Kulawiec wrote:
> On Sun, Feb 23, 2003 at 06:44:32PM -0800, Chuq Von Rospach wrote:
>> It's failing miserably at dealing with it, actually.
>
> Then we have a difference of opinion: I think it's doing quite well.
That's a first (snork).
> It's now been made clear to ISPs that providing spam-support services
> will
> not be tolerated by the Internet community, and that those ISPs which
> do
and just look at how quickly the spam volume is dropping, too! wow!
It's almost solved!
Those attempts at intervention and isolation have basically been an
absolute failure. sorry.
>
>> And legislation will come.
>
> And will be watered-down and ineffective and inapplicable on a global
> basis.
I'm going to write on this in my blog. Stay tuned. But this is the
typical geek attitude I see: we can't solve it 100%, so don't try.
Wrong answer. Let's go get the first hunk, and it'll improve things and
make the next hunk easier.
more when I have time.
>> What you call poisoning, people in the real world call
>> compromise, adn it's that unwillingness to compromise that causes
>> geeks
>> to get marginalized out of these discussions in the first place,
>
> There is no compromise as to the use of MY systems.
And the end result of that attitude is that when these laws ARE passed,
you may find them passed in ways you find intolerable, but since you
have no compromise in your attitude, you get left out of the
discussion. So if the laws ban RBLs? you may not have a choice any
more. But since you won't take a compromise answer as an answer, you
risk losing things you consider untouchable.
--
Chuq Von Rospach, Architech
chuqui@plaidworks.com -- http://www.plaidworks.com/chuqui/blog/
Stress is when you wake up screaming and you realize you haven't fallen
asleep yet.
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