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Subject: Re: PLEASE DO NOT CC ME ON MESSAGES TO THIS
From: Nick Simicich <njs @ scifi . squawk . com>
Date: Tue, 25 Feb 2003 05:37:50 -0500
To: list-managers @ greatcircle . com
In-reply-to: <FD878FB4-480D-11D7-AE70-0003934516A8@plaidworks.com>
References: <20030224113904.GA4646@gsp.org>

At 07:38 AM 2003-02-24 -0800, Chuq Von Rospach wrote:

>If you want your email set up in a specific way, set up your client to 
>show it that way.
>
>I want people to send me a copy of message sent to the list, by the way 
>please DO CC me.

How many times are we going to have this conversation?  As I recally, you 
also wanted it in red Helvetivca, at least 30 point.  Eventually you cried 
uncle when I delivered.  The other point is that the real problem is that 
the people (misguided individual?) who originally put forth the concept 
that lists should not mung Reply-To is responsible for the reply-to-all 
header expansion --- and that instead of doing that, they should have 
written an alteration to RFC822, back long enough ago to where mailing list 
managers would have done the right thing.  Instead they wrote unmitigated 
drivel like "reply to munging considered harmful" and we have what we have 
what we have today.

(Please do not bother do tell me about how hard it is for you to reply-to 
individuals when lists implement reply-to-munging. I do not care about the 
shortcomings of your MUA - and mine is among the worse.)

95% plus of the people who get this mail do not want the extra copy, they 
want the list copy.  You are part of the 5%.  What Rich, and I, and 19 out 
of 20 want is the norm.

Please ignore Chuq:  He is not serious when he claims he wants private 
copies.  Fix your header (after you do reply-to-all because that is the 
only way to reply-to-list because of the ill-advised, faddish "reply to 
munging considered harmful" and delete *ALL* individual recipients.  And 
thanks from 19 out of 20 of us.

--
SPAM: Trademark for spiced, chopped ham manufactured by Hormel.
spam: Unsolicited, Bulk E-mail, where e-mail can be interpreted generally 
to mean electronic messages designed to be read by an individual, and it 
can include Usenet, SMS, AIM, etc.  But if it is not all three of 
Unsolicited, Bulk, and E-mail, it simply is not spam. Misusing the term 
plays into the hands of the spammers, since it causes confusion, and 
spammers thrive on  confusion. Spam is not speech, it is an action, like 
theft, or vandalism. If you were not confused, would you patronize a spammer?
Nick Simicich - njs@scifi.squawk.com - http://scifi.squawk.com/njs.html
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