Great Circle Associates List-Managers
(February 2003)
 

Indexed By Date: [Previous] [Next] Indexed By Thread: [Previous] [Next]

Subject: Re: not about (was Re: PLEASE DO NOT CC ME ON MESSAGES TO THIS
From: Chuq Von Rospach <chuqui @ plaidworks . com>
Date: Tue, 25 Feb 2003 20:07:28 -0800
To: Doug McNutt <douglist @ macnauchtan . com>
Cc: list-managers @ greatcircle . com
In-reply-to: <p05100304ba81ddc04353@[192.168.1.14]>


On Tuesday, February 25, 2003, at 07:30  PM, Doug McNutt wrote:

> But, with regard to the original problem, it's not so easy to post to 
> just THIS list.

this server, unfortunately, runs on software that doesn't support 
RFC2369.

<http://www.zvon.org/tmRFC/RFC2369/Output/chapter3.html>

the list-post header is what you want, and part of that RFC. Mailman 
supports these headers, although we get occasional screams from folks 
who are more interested in their way than the right way. but the idea 
behind 2369 was to build in standardized headers for just what you want 
-- and to make it easier for the folks writing mail clients to build 
automated ways of accessing and using that information. Of course, the 
mail client writers have little incentive to support that if people 
don't build the headers into the lists...

> Yes. I am familiar with all the verbiage about munging Reply To: 
> headers  by list software, but if there is no Reply To: in the 
> submission does it not make sense for the list software to add one 
> pointing to the list itself?

it depends. But that's the real reason why we need to get support for 
2369 into servers and mail clients. Because reply-to doesn't solve the 
problem, even though people keep using it to try to: because the real 
solution isn't forcing replies, and because clients see reply as a 
binary operation (reply/reply-all). in reality, with lists it's a 
tri-state operation (reply/reply-list/reply-all), and that's what 
List-post is supposed to allow to happen.


-- 
Chuq Von Rospach, Architech, Apple IS&T E-mail systems
chuq@apple.com



Follow-Ups:
References:
Indexed By Date Previous: Re: how to reply
From: Tom Neff <tneff@grassyhill.net>
Next: Re: Lurkers
From: "Anne P. Mitchell, Esq." <amitchell@habeas.com>
Indexed By Thread Previous: Re: how to reply
From: Tom Neff <tneff@grassyhill.net>
Next: Re: not about (was Re: PLEASE DO NOT CC ME ON MESSAGES TO THIS
From: "Roger B.A. Klorese" <rogerk@queernet.org>

Google
 
Search Internet Search www.greatcircle.com