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Subject: Re: false positives
From: J C Lawrence <claw @ kanga . nu>
Date: Wed, 26 Feb 2003 00:01:24 -0800
To: Chuq Von Rospach <chuqui @ plaidworks . com>
Cc: "Anne P. Mitchell, Esq." <amitchell @ habeas . com>,list-managers @ greatcircle . com
In-reply-to: Message from Chuq Von Rospach <chuqui@plaidworks.com> of "Tue, 25 Feb 2003 22:59:35 PST." <DD130B0C-4957-11D7-A0F1-0003934516A8@plaidworks.com>
References: <DD130B0C-4957-11D7-A0F1-0003934516A8@plaidworks.com>

On Tue, 25 Feb 2003 22:59:35 -0800 
Chuq Von Rospach <chuqui@plaidworks.com> wrote:
> On Tuesday, February 25, 2003, at 10:41 PM, Anne P. Mitchell,
> Esq. wrote:

>> Another of our licensees, TidBits, experienced as much as a *10%*
>> delivery failure rate when one issue contained the word "V------a"
>> once.

> god, one can only wonder how many list members won't see THAT message
> because of that word.

I run a list whose topic is the design and development of certain forms
of games.  Fairly regularly someone posts a message containing the word,
"sex", or "screwed" or even "tits" (a large visual component of games
like Everquest is breast size...), and every time they do I get a stack
of bounces for "inappropriate language".  Even better, if there are
enough quoting replies in that day which quote those words, then I get a
rash of people being unsubscribed who then scream...

> me, I've seen blockages based on things like "14 year old girls" (it
> was a youth hockey tournament). It's scary what causes the bounce
> systems to kick in these days.

My list of keyword bounces is long, inane, and beyond my ability to
comment on, tho I rather liked "japanese" and "doll" being bounced
during a discussion discussion of kibuki theatre as a game form.

In the end I decided to simply not care.  I'm willing to tell victims
what happened, willing to suggest they scream blue murder, willing to
provide documentation upon request, but that's it.  If they really want
to use a service that does that to their mail, that's their choice and
I've little interest in reading thru my logs just so I can go, "Nyahh!
Neener neener neener!" every few days.

> And worse, it means there are people out there that think this is
> HELPING the spam problem.

Yup.  The same people who believe that writing "firewall" on their hub
adds security.

-- 
J C Lawrence                
---------(*)                Satan, oscillate my metallic sonatas. 
claw@kanga.nu               He lived as a devil, eh?		  
http://www.kanga.nu/~claw/  Evil is a name of a foeman, as I live.


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