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Subject: Re: Are members blocking instead of leaving?
From: "Angel Rivera" <angel @ wolf . com>
Date: Thu, 27 Feb 2003 16:24:23 GMT
To: list-managers @ greatcircle . com
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Tom Neff writes: 

> Is anyone else starting to see bounces of the form 
> 
> 	... while talking to air-xj05.mail.aol.com.:
> 	>>> RCPT To:<SomeMember@aol.com>
> 	<<< 550 SomeMember IS NOT ACCEPTING MAIL FROM THIS SENDER
> 	550 <SomeMember@aol.com>... User unknown 
> 
> I have started to see more and more of these, and I find myself wondering
> whether AOL members (and possibly on other services) are using the
> ever-expanding "spam blocking" facilities as a shortcut to leave lists,
> rather than figure out how to do it at the listserv level.

I am not sure it is a "spam blocking" facility. It clearly states it does 
know now the use and returns a 550 which means it is permanent. More than 
likely the user went away or deleted that profile and created another one. 
Deleting their membership is about all you can do. 

> Maybe if we worked with AOL and MUA makers to translate the RFC2369 Unsub
> header into an equally easy "button," members would use it?

Getting these idiots is one of the crosses you carry for running a list. 


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