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Subject: Re: Wow..I just saw it for myself - spam to confirmed list
From: Alvin Oga <alvin @ planet . fef . com>
Date: Thu, 6 Mar 2003 01:38:49 -0800 (PST)
To: amitchell @ habeas . com (Anne P. Mitchell, Esq.)
Cc: list-managers @ greatcircle . com
In-reply-to: <3E669954.23636.88E2625@localhost> from "Anne P. Mitchell, Esq." at Mar 06, 2003 12:41:56 AM


> Anne P. Mitchell, Esq. wrote:
> 
> Wow..I just saw it for myself...someone signed up to a confirmed-
> opt-in group which I moderate (yahoo group) specifically for the 
> purpose of spamming it (pron spam, too).
> 
> It has been suggested that this can be done by some sort of robot - 
> anybody know how that works?

trivial...  see basic psuedo code outline below

c ya
alvin

#
# Create a spam-bot
#
0th event       - someone has to setup up a "spambot" account
                with an auto-responder  on a mail server

1st event       - send out initial email to subscribe from spambot acct
                ( somebody that wants to send spam does something )

		echo subscribe | mail -s subscribe list-request@foo.com 

2nd event       - receive autoreply/confirmation from xx-subscribe
                ( normally, one expect a human to reply/confirm it )

3rd event       - but for us, the spammer's autoreponder replies
                ( remember we have an autoresponder setup on "spambot" )

		- a good list manager sw will be able to defeat this
		faked autoconfirmation from a supposed human confirmation


4th event       - confirmation received from xx-subscribe
                ( no reason why it would be denied by the list )

		grep list@foo.com /var/log/maillog | wc -l
		if ( have at least 2 of um ... we're set to go )

5th event       - send spam
                ( a few minutes later ... send the spam )

		mail -s "make $10M today spam" < /tmp/spam-2-send.txt

6th event       - unsubscribe
                ( few minutes later ... after confirming mail was sent )

		echo unsubscribe | mail -s unsubscribe list-request@foo.com 
#
# done .. sell script for $100M




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