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Subject: Re: Wow..I just saw it for myself - spam to confirmed list
From: JC Dill <inet-list @ vo . cnchost . com>
Date: Thu, 06 Mar 2003 10:35:24 -0800
To: list-managers @ greatcircle . com
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SRE wrote:
> At 09:41 AM 3/6/2003, JC Dill wrote:
> 
>> Will this be the end for "plain text email for those with no web 
>> access" mailing lists?

> No, I and others have mentioned the option of "initial per-user 
> moderation" for new subscribers. Whether that moderation (list owner 
> approval of posts) is removed automatically or by explicit action of 
> the owner, spammers just don't have the patience or capability to 
> understand each list charter and post something relevant and 
> on-topic. By the second useful post, you can be sure it's not a 
> spammer and remove the posting approval (moderation) flag.
> 
> I've personally done this (with 100% perfect results if you don't 
> count those who get pissed off about me having to approve their first
>  post)

This solution doesn't work for high volume lists and especially for
lists where being able to post promptly is an important feature of the
list (such as a list for users of network infrastructure equipment). 
The list manager can't be there 24x7 to approve posts, and if the list 
isn't immediately available to legitimate on-topic posters with an 
urgent question, then the list will slowly diminish as other lists (that 
don't suffer from this delay) are created and touted as a better resource.

Perhaps it would work to have initial moderation status set only for 
known "freemail" addresses that are subscribed thru email, and waiving 
that moderation when the addresses are subscribed with a web graphic 
challenge process.  Hmmm...  I know that eBay has a rather substantial 
list of known freemail domains, and that if you have one of those email 
addresses you have to supply a credit card before you can use that 
address (as a buyer or seller) with eBay.  Does anyone here know of a 
canonical list of freemail domains?

jc





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