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Subject: Re: Wow..I just saw it for myself - spam to confirmed list
From: Tom Neff <tneff @ grassyhill . net>
Date: Thu, 06 Mar 2003 16:19:52 -0500
To: list-managers @ greatcircle . com
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--On Thursday, March 06, 2003 2:55 PM -0600 "David W. Tamkin"
<dattier@panix.com> wrote:
> Tom Neff gave an example of non-HTML graphics:
> 
> : There is also this method:
> :
> : JxIA0KDQo8aHRtb
> : 9uXCBjb2xvXj0iI
> : RybX5nPkRXTidUI
> : MgSUXgSEXTVE9SW
> : NlbnRXcXI+PGZvb
> : wgc2FuXy1zZXJpZ
> : JhdGVXbXJ0Z2FnZ
> : 1heSXiZSXhcyBsb
> : 9vcXBjcmVXaXQgb
> : BnXyB1cCEgXC9mb
> : NpemU9IjIiIGZhY
> :
> : What letter do you see in the above block?
> 
> I saw nothing at first.  Then I switched to a fixed-pitch font and still saw
> nothing.  A second fixed-pitch font, still nothing.  There's the catch: to
> make sure the reader has the right view, you have to sacrifice plain text
> and instead use some markup to specify a display font.
> 
> Finally I traced all the capital X's and saw that they form a capital X, but
> if my earlier examples are too involved for the typical human reader, this
> one is scarcely any better.  Few people would bother, and all told I think
> this method is no better than those I tossed out earlier.

In my own lame defense :)  I just hacked that together - I actually stole a
rectangle of random Base64 from some Zip file someone sent me and used it as
the palimpsest.  I agree the results are pretty bad.  I had seen other
examples of this kind of multiline pattern recognition that were a lot easier
- but they used dots and other low-profile characters for the "background."
I thought that might be a bit easy to reverse engineer so I tried the random
characters.  See if you can read this:

	.,.._...,_,..,,
	_,X..,,_,,X,_,.
	.,,X_,.,.X.,,..
	.,..X,..X..._..
	.,,,.X,X.+...,,
	,,,_.,X,_,.;.,.
	.,,..X,X._._.,.
	_,,.X,..X,,,.,,
	_,,X.,,,.X,;.,,
	.,X,._,..,X._,,
	.,,,._.,.,...,.


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