Thanks very much Jim,
yes, the MLM's developer (Mailgust) indeed knows about the issue and the
need for better handling of bounces; I'm assuming the problem doesn't
exist when using smtp because the mlm has been coded suitably.
The mlm is still under development (Mailgust) so whilst waiting for more
development (!) I'm fishing around for a fix ...
In the meantime I've contacted my hosting support to see if they can
help at all.
Presumably of course, if my account is subject to a certain smtp
restriction then i also shouldn't be able to use sendmail directly to
get round this, but this 'bounce error' problem is the only apparent
hurdle in the way.
Lee
Jim Osborn wrote:
>On Thu, Nov 04, 2004 at 5:53:11PM +0000, lee wrote:
>
>
>>I'm running a mailing list manager using the sendmail binary for
>>outgoing mail, because smtp is too restricted to make the 300+
>>zubscriber base workable.
>>
>>Trouble is, when people mail the list they get a 'personal' mail
>>delivery error from the mail daemon if there happen to be any dead or
>>over quota addresses on the list at that time. Using smtp (on smaller
>>lists) seems not to do this.
>>
>>
>
>Others here can probably quote the RFCs on this better than me, but I'll
>offer my limited opinion. First, those errors you mention should never
>go to the message author, but should instead go to the envelope sender,
>or return-path, which should be the MLM. I don't know if this is a
>sendmail/smtp issue or just an issue with your MLM. Then again, there
>are plenty of sites that misdirect DSNs even with the MLM set up right.
>
>
>
>>So, is there a specific request I can send to the hosting support to get
>>these mail delivery errors specifically directed to an admin address?
>>ie, 'if a delivery error is generated when someone has originally mailed
>>to xyzlist then forward to admin@xyz rather than the original sender' ....
>>
>>
>
>Here's a sampling of the headers this list, list-managers, emits:
>
> From list-managers-owner@greatcircle.com Thu Nov 4 10:00:21 2004
> Return-Path: <list-managers-owner@greatcircle.com>
> X-Original-To: list-managers@greatcircle.com
> Message-ID: <418A6C87.2070600@btinternet.com>
> Date: Thu, 04 Nov 2004 17:53:11 +0000
> From: lee <davislee@btinternet.com>
> To: list-managers@greatcircle.com
> Subject: mailing with sendmail binary / errors
> Sender: list-managers-owner@greatcircle.com
>
>A site would have to be really misconfigured to send DSNs to the From:
>address with all that info at hand. You might check to see what your
>current MLM is sending in the way of headers.
>
>
>
>>I'm asking here before contacting the host in case any of you have tried
>>this before and found it definitely is / is not possible to set up.
>>
>>
>
>I've never tried rolling my own MLM, but have used Majordomo, ListServe,
>and for the last ten years or so, SmartList. They've all been hosted
>by my ISP, so I haven't personally configured this aspect of a MLM;
>SmartList uses something called "flist" to deliver the mail; it may
>go through sendmail on its way, but I don't know, and I don't think
>that's relevant to your question.
>
>The ultimate answer to your last question is: yes, it is definitely
>possible to set up a MLM to encourage DSNs to go to the MLM, not the
>message author.
>
>Jim
>
>
>
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