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Subject: Re: mailing with sendmail binary / errors
From: Al Iverson <iverson @ mnjazz . com>
Date: Sun, 07 Nov 2004 16:17:36 -0600
To: list-managers @ greatcircle . com
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lee wrote:
> 
> Many thanks Nick and also Jim and Bob for your advice so far;
> 
> You've all mentioned VERP and related issues, which I am doing my best 
> to understand. Even though what I talk about below seems to ignore my 
> understanding of VERP, I'd be grateful if you could stick with me ...
> 
> Regarding your smtp question, Nick; I believe mailgust has been 
> 'temporarily/partly' coded to just absorb any bounces which come back to 
> the mlm. It's acknowledged that the software is incomplete in this area, 
> including my issues with the sendmail sending.
> 
> I was talking to the developer yesterday although he is committed to 
> paid work for now, and he asked a question which indeed I have 
> considered but chose to ignore so far - if I am having trouble with mail 
> delivery errors going directly to list zubscribers, how could the 
> current mailgust state be causing this? ie, the list posting address 
> appears in the list headers as the Return-Path, but I know for sure that 
> the bounces I and others are experiencing are definitely not being 
> remailed out through the list.

Lee, could you put an example of a message posted to your list on a 
website somewhere? With full headers, saved as a text file? All received 
lines/from lines/return path/etc. visible. Curious to see what this 
might reveal.

Regards,
Al Iverson



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