hello again Al and everyone,
(see * below for my replies)
Al Iverson wrote:
>
> If I understand correctly, the issue is bounces being distributed to
> list members, yes?
> * Yes, that's right.
> Is the list locked so that only members can post? Verified by email
> address?
* Yes, indeed so.
>
>
> Can you post one of those bounces to a text file, just like you did
> with the example post?
* I don't have one to hand at present, but could generate one. They
appear to be the same kind of mail delivery failure notifications that
you would receive from a personal mail to a dead or over quota address,
for example. The majority of the error mails I'm referring to appear to
be posted by the mail daemon on the list hosting's site. A smaller
amount appear to come directly from the mail daemon of the failing address.
>
> My thoughts would be to change the return path as to not be the list
> posting address, or to change the list so that only members may post.
* Yes, I'm trying to create the option to change the Return-Path (or
at least force in an overall specific one for all lists) with my
previously described efforts. It's these coding efforts I've reached a
dead end with because I have taken my non-knowledge of php to the utmost
limit !
> If you're still seeing the issues after that happens, then it feels
> like you have some list members with a wonky MTA or MUA that is doing
> some bad stuff. I see that often enough on our mailings (avg 1-2 mil a
> day) that we had to put some extensive automation in place to handle
> misdirected bounces, as well as the usual other garbage like out of
> office replies.
* Absolutely, once I've achieved my aims above I can assess the
issue (I'm already aware of) where some mail servers don't acknowledge
the actual desired Return-Path.
>
> It could also be caused by some poorly-designed spam filter, that's
> helpfully trying to bounce perceived spam, but is parsing the headers
> wrong and sending it to the wrong person (though in a situation like
> that, there's really not a right person to send it to; a spam filter
> like that does little more than pound innocents with misdirected spam
> and bounces).
* Sure, presumably a real possibility.
* Many thanks again for anything further,
* Lee
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