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Al Iverson wrote on 11/7/2004, 7:06 PM:
> lee wrote:
>
> >
> > Thanks for your interest Al;
> >
> > Sorry about the wonky line wrap in my last mail to this list.
> >
> > Sure, below is a url showing the message source as shown in Mozilla
> > Thunderbird on a mailgust mail sent out using the sendmail binary. The
> > mail was originally emailed into the list by me from Thunderbird. The
> > particular list is set to make the Reply-To header show the list
> > address, although that's not relevant here. The Mailgust install used
> > here is the standard latest release, free from my current 'experimental
> > coding'.
> >
> > I might also add here that Thunderbird shows the same form of
> > From
> > header at the top of all message sources I look at, irrespective of any
> > mailing list or individual emailer, but from what I understand this
> > isn't the
> > From
> > header I / we have referred to earlier ?? ...
>
> Yeah, same on Mozilla for me, for any message I check, so I don't think
> it's having an impact on the issue.
>
> > anyway, here's the url of the message source:
> >
> > http://www.incelsite.com/fullheaders.txt
>
> If I understand correctly, the issue is bounces being distributed to
> list members, yes?
>
> Is the list locked so that only members can post? Verified by email
> address?
>
> Can you post one of those bounces to a text file, just like you did with
> the example post?
>
> My thoughts would be to change the return path as to not be the list
> posting address, or to change the list so that only members may post.
>
> If you're still seeing the issues after that happens, then it feels like
> you have some list members with a wonky MTA or MUA that is doing some
> bad stuff. I see that often enough on our mailings (avg 1-2 mil a day)
> that we had to put some extensive automation in place to handle
> misdirected bounces, as well as the usual other garbage like out of
> office replies.
>
> It could also be caused by some poorly-designed spam filter, that's
> helpfully trying to bounce perceived spam, but is parsing the headers
> wrong and sending it to the wrong person (though in a situation like
> that, there's really not a right person to send it to; a spam filter
> like that does little more than pound innocents with misdirected spam
> and bounces).
>
> In a situation like this your only recourse may be to hunt down and
> remove the offending list members.
>
> Regards,
> Al Iverson
>
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