From majordomo-users-owner Wed Nov 1 06:56:31 1995 Received: (majordom@localhost) by miles.greatcircle.com (8.7.1/Miles-950430-1) id GAA29933 for majordomo-users-outgoing; Wed, 1 Nov 1995 06:25:14 -0800 (PST) Received: from alpha.jpunix.com (gateway.jpunix.com [199.3.234.18]) by miles.greatcircle.com (8.7.1/Miles-950430-1) with ESMTP id GAA29910 for ; Wed, 1 Nov 1995 06:25:09 -0800 (PST) Received: (from perry@localhost) by alpha.jpunix.com (8.7.1/8.6.6) id IAA11594; Wed, 1 Nov 1995 08:24:53 -0600 (CST) Date: Wed, 1 Nov 1995 08:24:52 -0600 (CST) From: "John A. Perry" To: majordomo-users@greatcircle.com Subject: Automated bounce handling?? Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk Hello everyone! I have been using majordomo for some time now to handle a couple of mailing lists in a very basic fashion. I'm interested in accessing some of the more advanced features of majordomo. What I'm specifically interested in is the automated handling of bounces. I read several docs pertaining to majordomo and they allude to this being possible using the bounce script. Can someone send me a "cookbook" example of how toy set up automated bounces. If not, can someone at least point me in the right direction? I'm running majordomo 1.93. John Perry - KG5RG - perry@alpha.jpunix.com - PGP-encrypted e-mail welcome! Packet Radio - KG5RG@WA4IMZ.#SETX.TX.USA.NA WWW - http://www.jpunix.com PGP 2.62 key for perry@jpunix.com is on the keyservers. From majordomo-users-owner Wed Nov 1 07:53:22 1995 Received: (majordom@localhost) by miles.greatcircle.com (8.7.1/Miles-950430-1) id HAA03576 for majordomo-users-outgoing; Wed, 1 Nov 1995 07:28:25 -0800 (PST) Received: from mohost.moric.org (mohost.moric.org [168.170.25.34]) by miles.greatcircle.com (8.7.1/Miles-950430-1) with SMTP id HAA03569 for ; Wed, 1 Nov 1995 07:28:20 -0800 (PST) Received: from [168.170.26.1] by mohost.moric.org (AIX 3.2/UCB 5.64/4.03) id AA11216; Wed, 1 Nov 1995 10:22:03 -0500 Received: from MADISON_ADMIN/SpoolDir by mohawk.moric.org (Mercury 1.13); Wed, 1 Nov 95 10:30:01 +500 Received: from SpoolDir by MADISON_ADMIN (Mercury 1.13); Wed, 1 Nov 95 10:29:47 +500 From: "REITTINGER, PAT" To: majordomo-users@GreatCircle.COM Date: Wed, 1 Nov 1995 10:29:44 +5 EST Subject: moderated list Priority: normal X-Mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (v2.01a) Message-Id: <10382CA7847@mohawk.moric.org> Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk Majordomo was working fine until I tried to create a moderated list. I added the -A and -a pass.word to my resend command and also editted the list.config file to "moderated=yes". When I mail a message I get no response of any kind. The list owner (me) also gets no mail message. When I restore the aliases and config files to their original status (not moderated), the list works as expected. What's wrong?? Pat Reittinger preittinge@mohawk.moric.org From majordomo-users-owner Wed Nov 1 09:23:37 1995 Received: (majordom@localhost) by miles.greatcircle.com (8.7.1/Miles-950430-1) id IAA05925 for majordomo-users-outgoing; Wed, 1 Nov 1995 08:58:51 -0800 (PST) Received: from cthia.sojourn.com (cthia.sojourn.com [199.177.127.10]) by miles.greatcircle.com (8.7.1/Miles-950430-1) with SMTP id IAA05918 for ; Wed, 1 Nov 1995 08:58:46 -0800 (PST) Received: from cthia.sojourn.com by cthia.sojourn.com with smtp (Smail3.1.29.1 #7) id m0tAgYB-000CMZC; Wed, 1 Nov 95 12:02 EST Message-Id: X-Sender: roshne@menzo.sojourn.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 2.1.2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Wed, 01 Nov 1995 11:59:08 -0500 To: majordomo-users@greatcircle.com From: Rod Shelton Subject: More moderation help... Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk Yesterday I sent a request for help regarding getting moderation working, and thought that majordomo was mungeing the subject line on my moderated postings, well it isn't mungeing the subject line majordomo is dropping it! It recognizes my approval password, takes the first line of text places it before some other header stuff, with a blank line above and after. HELP!! Why does it work unmoderated, but not moderated???? >Return-Path: >Date: Wed, 1 Nov 95 11:56 EST >From: owner-sojourn-list@sojourn.com >To: sojourn-list-outgoing@sojourn.com > >This Line has nothing to do with the subject line whatsoever... >Sender: owner-sojourn-list@cthia.sojourn.com >Precedence: bulk >Reply-To: sojourn-list@sojourn.com > >Here is some other text that is one line below the other, with a blank line >between. > >-- >Rod Shelton >Senior System Administrator for Sojourn Systems >roshne@sojourn.com >For accounts and services contact: support@sojourn.com > > -- Rod Shelton Senior System Administrator for Sojourn Systems roshne@sojourn.com For accounts and services contact: support@sojourn.com From majordomo-users-owner Wed Nov 1 10:24:45 1995 Received: (majordom@localhost) by miles.greatcircle.com (8.7.1/Miles-950430-1) id KAA07989 for majordomo-users-outgoing; Wed, 1 Nov 1995 10:07:03 -0800 (PST) Received: from dewey.csun.edu (dewey.csun.edu [130.166.1.1]) by miles.greatcircle.com (8.7.1/Miles-950430-1) with SMTP id KAA07982 for ; Wed, 1 Nov 1995 10:07:00 -0800 (PST) Received: from [130.166.1.151] (s001n151.csun.edu [130.166.1.151]) by dewey.csun.edu (8.6.12/8.6.4) with SMTP id KAA14936 for ; Wed, 1 Nov 1995 10:10:01 -0800 X-Sender: dlt@csun.edu Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Wed, 1 Nov 1995 10:07:02 -0800 To: majordomo-users@GreatCircle.COM From: dlt@dewey.csun.edu (David Thompson) Subject: Wrapper compile problems Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk While wrapper would compile successfully without selecting POSIX, however it would not run: The original message was received at Wed, 1 Nov 1995 08:58:00 -0800 from s001n151.csun.edu [130.166.1.151] ----- The following addresses had delivery problems ----- "|/usr/ctr/majordom/wrapper majordomo" (unrecoverable error) (expanded from: ) ----- Transcript of session follows ----- Message delivered to mailing list /usr/ctr/majordom/wrapper: error: recompile with POSIX flags. 554 "|/usr/ctr/majordom/wrapper majordomo"... unknown mailer error 4 ----- Original message follows ----- Editing the Makefile for POSIX: # If you're using a POSIX-compliant system, uncomment this set of parameters # and comment out the BSD settings above. # # W_UID = 160 W_GID = 22 W_CHOWN=root W_CHMOD=4755 WRAPPER_FLAGS = -DBIN=\"${W_BIN}\" -DPATH=\"PATH=${W_PATH}\" \ -DHOME=\"HOME=${W_HOME}\" -DSHELL=\"SHELL=${W_SHELL}\" \ -DMAJORDOMO_CF=\"MAJORDOMO_CF=${W_MAJORDOMO_CF}\" \ -DPOSIX_UID=${W_UID} -DPOSIX_GID=${W_GID} -DSETGROUP $ make cc -DBIN=\"/usr/ctr/majordom\" -DPATH=\"PATH=/bin:/usr/bin:/usr/local/bi n\" -DHOME=\"HOME=/usr/ctr/majordom\" -DSHELL=\"SHELL=/bin/csh\" -DMAJORDOMO_C F=\"MAJORDOMO_CF=/usr/ctr/majordom/majordomo.cf\" -DPOSIX_UID=160 -DPOSIX _GID=22 -DSETGROUP -o wrapper wrapper.c cc: "wrapper.c", line 99: error 1514: Illegal type for string initializer. cc: "wrapper.c", line 100: error 1716: Automatic aggregate initialization is an ANSI feature. *** Error code 1 Stop. Lines 99 and 100 are the lines from wrapper.c beginning with char and int, below: #if defined(SETGROUP) /* renounce any previous group memberships if we are running as root */ if (geteuid() == 0) { /* Should I exit if this test fails? */ char setgroups_used = "setgroups_was_included"; /* give strings a hint */ int groups[] = { POSIX_GID, 0 }; if (setgroups(1, groups) != 0) { extern int errno; fprintf(stderr, "%s: error setgroups failed errno %d", argv[0], errno); } } #endif I'm running on an HPUX 9.05 system with the ANSI C compiler. Thanks for any help!! -- David Thompson, Systems Programmer Computer Center/CSU Northridge 18111 Nordhoff St., Northridge, CA 91330-8280 (818) 885-2787; dlt@email.csun.edu From majordomo-users-owner Wed Nov 1 10:25:32 1995 Received: (majordom@localhost) by miles.greatcircle.com (8.7.1/Miles-950430-1) id KAA08565 for majordomo-users-outgoing; Wed, 1 Nov 1995 10:21:56 -0800 (PST) Received: from mohost.moric.org (mohost.moric.org [168.170.25.34]) by miles.greatcircle.com (8.7.1/Miles-950430-1) with SMTP id KAA08549 for ; Wed, 1 Nov 1995 10:21:51 -0800 (PST) Received: from [168.170.26.1] by mohost.moric.org (AIX 3.2/UCB 5.64/4.03) id AA10656; Wed, 1 Nov 1995 13:15:39 -0500 Received: from MADISON_ADMIN/SpoolDir by mohawk.moric.org (Mercury 1.13); Wed, 1 Nov 95 13:23:39 +500 Received: from SpoolDir by MADISON_ADMIN (Mercury 1.13); Wed, 1 Nov 95 13:23:09 +500 From: "REITTINGER, PAT" To: majordomo-users@GreatCircle.COM Date: Wed, 1 Nov 1995 13:23:04 +5 EST Subject: Priority: normal X-Mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (v2.01a) Message-Id: <10666912E08@mohawk.moric.org> Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk Well, I corrected a typo and now I can send a message to a moderated list. I (list owner) recieve a message to approve but I can't make heads or tails of how to now approve a message. Can someone help?? Pat Reittinger preittinge@mohawk.moric.org From majordomo-users-owner Wed Nov 1 11:07:32 1995 Received: (majordom@localhost) by miles.greatcircle.com (8.7.1/Miles-950430-1) id KAA08873 for majordomo-users-outgoing; Wed, 1 Nov 1995 10:31:02 -0800 (PST) Received: from pegasus.walker.com (pegasus.walker.com [199.74.166.4]) by miles.greatcircle.com (8.7.1/Miles-950430-1) with ESMTP id KAA08852 for ; Wed, 1 Nov 1995 10:30:57 -0800 (PST) Received: from smtpgate.walker.com by pegasus.walker.com with SMTP (1.37.109.16/16.2) id AA288070854; Wed, 1 Nov 1995 10:34:14 -0800 Posted-Date: Wed, 1 Nov 1995 10:34:14 -0800 Received-Date: Wed, 1 Nov 1995 10:34:14 -0800 Received: from ccMail by smtpgate.walker.com (SMTPLINK V2.10.05) id AA815250771; Wed, 01 Nov 95 10:27:27 PDT Date: Wed, 01 Nov 95 10:27:27 PDT From: "John E. Leon Guerrero" Encoding: 24 Text Message-Id: <9510018152.AA815250771@smtpgate.walker.com> To: majordomo-users@GreatCircle.COM Subject: syslog timestamps 3hrs ahead on HP-UX 9.04 Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk Is there someway to configure this? I'm on the west coast, but the Majordomo entries in /usr/spool/mqueue/syslog are 3 hrs ahead (east coast time if that is the key) of the other entries. For example: Oct 30 17:54:00 pegasus sendmail[10882]: AA108824440: msgid=<199510310154.AA1088 24440@pegasus.walker.com> Oct 30 17:54:00 pegasus sendmail[10882]: AA108824440: relay=local host Oct 30 20:54:02 pegasus sendmail[10891]: AA108914442: from=majordom Oct 30 20:54:02 pegasus sendmail[10891]: AA108914442: size=616, class=0, pri=161 6, nrcpts=1 Oct 30 20:54:02 pegasus sendmail[10891]: AA108914442: msgid=<199510310154.AA1089 14442@pegasus.walker.com> Oct 30 20:54:02 pegasus sendmail[10891]: AA108914442: relay=local host Oct 30 17:54:02 pegasus sendmail[10883]: AA108824440: to="|/u/pegasus/walker/app HP claims that the majordomo software is setting the timestamp. I don't know enough to refute the claim. HP sendmail is version 5.65 (latest rev from HP) What's going on--Help!?! jlg@walker.com From majordomo-users-owner Wed Nov 1 11:29:42 1995 Received: (majordom@localhost) by miles.greatcircle.com (8.7.1/Miles-950430-1) id KAA09438 for majordomo-users-outgoing; Wed, 1 Nov 1995 10:49:10 -0800 (PST) Received: from netcom12.netcom.com (netcom12.netcom.com [192.100.81.124]) by miles.greatcircle.com (8.7.1/Miles-950430-1) with SMTP id KAA09431 for ; Wed, 1 Nov 1995 10:49:07 -0800 (PST) Received: by netcom12.netcom.com (8.6.12/Netcom) id KAA03933; Wed, 1 Nov 1995 10:49:05 -0800 Date: Wed, 1 Nov 1995 10:49:05 -0800 From: alcocer@netcom.com (Dario Alcocer) Message-Id: <199511011849.KAA03933@netcom12.netcom.com> To: majordomo-users@greatcircle.com Subject: Reply of remote command request fails Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk I'm having a problem with Majordomo replying to remote commands. I've installed it on FreeBSD 2.0.0 running sendmail 8.6.9. When I send command to Majordomo from local logins, I get the e-mailed replies, as expected. However, when I send any command from a remote address (e.g. alcocer@netcom.com) I get an error via e-mail to majordomo-owner which contains the following message: % The original message was received at Wed, 1 Nov 1995 09:26:53 GMT % from majordom@localhost % % ----- The following addresses had delivery problems ----- % alcocer@netcom.com- Transcript of session follows ----- % uux: /etc/uucp/sys: fopen: Permission denied % 554 alcocer@netcom.com... unknown mailer error 1 The reply never makes it back; it fails in uux. My question is: why does it fail? I've checked /etc/uucp/sys (it exists and readable by everyone) and the uux options in /etc/sendmail.cf. I've tested outbound mail to the same address (it works), so it seems that somehow I've got Majordomo incorrectly configured. I've also checked the perms on the various Majordomo files (they're all owned by root, and their group is majordom, gid=1001). Finally, I changed the options passed to sendmail in /etc/majordomo.cf (a symlink to /home/majordomo/majordomo.cf) to include -X for debug logging, but then sendmail fails without even queuing; I get an error message from sendmail about not being able to create the control file in /var/spool/mqueue (euid=1001), and I also don't get the aforementioned error message from Mailer-Daemon. Any help is greatly appreciated. Although pecific information is welcome, even desired, RTFM pointers to other docs would be helpful also. BTW, I've looked in the archives and the users doc (via the Great Circle Web page) for sendmail and uux, but I haven't seen anything yet that pertains to my situation (I'll keep looking though.) -- Dario Alcocer alcocer@netcom.com From majordomo-users-owner Wed Nov 1 11:32:55 1995 Received: (majordom@localhost) by miles.greatcircle.com (8.7.1/Miles-950430-1) id LAA09963 for majordomo-users-outgoing; Wed, 1 Nov 1995 11:12:59 -0800 (PST) Received: from tan.unl.edu (tan.unl.edu [129.93.12.31]) by miles.greatcircle.com (8.7.1/Miles-950430-1) with SMTP id LAA09954 for ; Wed, 1 Nov 1995 11:12:55 -0800 (PST) Received: by tan.unl.edu (5.x/SMI-SVR4) id AA15838; Wed, 1 Nov 1995 13:15:37 -0600 Date: Wed, 1 Nov 1995 13:15:37 -0600 From: arnavut@tan.unl.edu (Ziya Arnavut) Message-Id: <9511011915.AA15838@tan.unl.edu> To: majordomo-users@GreatCircle.COM, dlt@dewey.csun.edu Subject: Re: Wrapper compile problems Content-Type: X-sun-attachment Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk ---------- X-Sun-Data-Type: text X-Sun-Data-Description: text X-Sun-Data-Name: text X-Sun-Charset: us-ascii X-Sun-Content-Lines: 93 > From majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Wed Nov 1 12:29 CST 1995 > X-Sender: dlt@csun.edu > Mime-Version: 1.0 > Date: Wed, 1 Nov 1995 10:07:02 -0800 > To: majordomo-users@GreatCircle.COM > From: dlt@dewey.csun.edu (David Thompson) > Subject: Wrapper compile problems > > While wrapper would compile successfully without selecting POSIX, however > it would not run: > > The original message was received at Wed, 1 Nov 1995 08:58:00 -0800 > from s001n151.csun.edu [130.166.1.151] > > ----- The following addresses had delivery problems ----- > "|/usr/ctr/majordom/wrapper majordomo" (unrecoverable error) > (expanded from: ) > > ----- Transcript of session follows ----- > Message delivered to mailing list > /usr/ctr/majordom/wrapper: error: recompile with POSIX flags. > 554 "|/usr/ctr/majordom/wrapper majordomo"... unknown mailer error 4 > > ----- Original message follows ----- > > > Editing the Makefile for POSIX: > > # If you're using a POSIX-compliant system, uncomment this set of parameters > # and comment out the BSD settings above. > # > # > W_UID = 160 > W_GID = 22 > W_CHOWN=root > W_CHMOD=4755 > WRAPPER_FLAGS = -DBIN=\"${W_BIN}\" -DPATH=\"PATH=${W_PATH}\" \ > -DHOME=\"HOME=${W_HOME}\" -DSHELL=\"SHELL=${W_SHELL}\" \ > -DMAJORDOMO_CF=\"MAJORDOMO_CF=${W_MAJORDOMO_CF}\" \ > -DPOSIX_UID=${W_UID} -DPOSIX_GID=${W_GID} -DSETGROUP > > $ make > cc -DBIN=\"/usr/ctr/majordom\" -DPATH=\"PATH=/bin:/usr/bin:/usr/local/bi > n\" -DHOME=\"HOME=/usr/ctr/majordom\" -DSHELL=\"SHELL=/bin/csh\" -DMAJORDOMO_C > F=\"MAJORDOMO_CF=/usr/ctr/majordom/majordomo.cf\" -DPOSIX_UID=160 -DPOSIX > _GID=22 -DSETGROUP -o wrapper wrapper.c > cc: "wrapper.c", line 99: error 1514: Illegal type for string initializer. > cc: "wrapper.c", line 100: error 1716: Automatic aggregate initialization is an > ANSI feature. > *** Error code 1 > > Stop. > > Lines 99 and 100 are the lines from wrapper.c beginning with char and int, > below: > > #if defined(SETGROUP) > /* renounce any previous group memberships if we are running as root */ > if (geteuid() == 0) { /* Should I exit if this test fails? */ > char setgroups_used = "setgroups_was_included"; /* give strings a hint */ > int groups[] = { POSIX_GID, 0 }; > > if (setgroups(1, groups) != 0) { > extern int errno; > > fprintf(stderr, "%s: error setgroups failed errno %d", argv[0], > errno); > } > } > #endif > > I'm running on an HPUX 9.05 system with the ANSI C compiler. > > Thanks for any help!! > > > > -- > David Thompson, Systems Programmer > Computer Center/CSU Northridge > 18111 Nordhoff St., Northridge, CA 91330-8280 > (818) 885-2787; dlt@email.csun.edu > > > If you put a pointer "*" infront of setgroup_used, that is char *setgrouped-used= It will compile fine. However, I am running into the following problem , when I issue the command "echo help |/usr/lib/sendmail -v sample-request" ---------- X-Sun-Data-Type: default X-Sun-Data-Description: default X-Sun-Data-Name: att X-Sun-Charset: us-ascii X-Sun-Content-Lines: 5 casde 21# echo help | /usr/lib/sendmail -v sample-request sample-request... aliased to "|/softsgi/majordom/bin/wrapper request-answer sample" Undefined subroutine &main::lopen called at /softsgi/majordom/bin/majordomo.pl line 229, line 1. "|/softsgi/majordom/bin/wrapper request-answer sample"... Sent From majordomo-users-owner Wed Nov 1 13:24:11 1995 Received: (majordom@localhost) by miles.greatcircle.com (8.7.1/Miles-950430-1) id NAA11453 for majordomo-users-outgoing; Wed, 1 Nov 1995 13:10:47 -0800 (PST) Received: from watserv1.uwaterloo.ca (watserv1.uwaterloo.ca [129.97.128.10]) by miles.greatcircle.com (8.7.1/Miles-950430-1) with SMTP id NAA11446 for ; Wed, 1 Nov 1995 13:10:40 -0800 (PST) Received: from peacock.uwaterloo.ca by watserv1.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id ; Wed, 1 Nov 95 16:10:34 -0500 Received: by peacock.uwaterloo.ca (950215.SGI.8.6.10/930416.SGI) id QAA23160; Wed, 1 Nov 1995 16:10:33 -0500 Date: Wed, 1 Nov 1995 16:10:32 -0500 (EST) From: "Sunjay T. Bedi" To: majordomo-users@GreatCircle.COM Subject: having problems send large files via majordomo-1.92 In-Reply-To: <199511012024.MAA10936@miles.greatcircle.com> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk Hello all, A listowner I am helping is having problems sending large files(as attachments) to a mailing group running under majordomo-1.92. His mail messages seem to vanish or are caught in a holding pattern in the mail queue (of the machine running majordomo-1.92). His attachment size was 302k. I noticed that resend was running with a -M option set to 10k. I bumped it up to 1000k and tried to resend the mail messages and got the same results (ie vanishing mail messages). Has anyone else experienced this problem? Any suggestions? Thanks for your help, ...Sunjay -- ========================================================= Sunjay T. Bedi, (519)888-4567, ext. 3739 /\ /\ stbedi@peacock.uwaterloo.ca / \ / \ University of Waterloo /____\/____\ ========================================================= From majordomo-users-owner Wed Nov 1 14:23:30 1995 Received: (majordom@localhost) by miles.greatcircle.com (8.7.1/Miles-950430-1) id OAA12567 for majordomo-users-outgoing; Wed, 1 Nov 1995 14:19:18 -0800 (PST) Received: from server02.tcel.com (server02.TCEL.COM [198.161.236.22]) by miles.greatcircle.com (8.7.1/Miles-950430-1) with SMTP id OAA12560 for ; Wed, 1 Nov 1995 14:19:13 -0800 (PST) Received: from ppdmsg1.UUCP (root@localhost) by server02.tcel.com id 199511012213.PAA32731; Wed, 1 Nov 1995 15:13:36 -0700 Received: (from jenseng@localhost) by ppdm.org id 199511012218.OAA10751; Wed, 1 Nov 1995 14:18:35 -0800 From: "Gord Jensen" Message-Id: <9511011418.ZM10749@ppdm.org> Date: Wed, 1 Nov 1995 14:18:35 -0800 X-Mailer: Z-Mail (3.2.0 26oct94 MediaMail) To: majordomo-users@greatcircle.com Subject: Majordomo eats up all the memory! Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk Hi: I'm running Majordomo 1.93 (with Perl 4.036) on Silicon Graphics Indigo 2 using IRIX 5.3. The installs of both Perl and Majordomo seemed to go quite smoothly. It tried running the wrapper test program and got no problems. However, when I run any of the majordomo commands, the majordomo program chews up all the available memory on the machine as well as its swap space. At first, I thought it might be the way I had set up my test list. So I tried a more basic majordomo request. I mailed a help request to majordomo. Same thing. Any suggestions would be appreciated. Thanks Gord -- Gord Jensen Systems/Database Admin Public Petroleum Data Model Association 1600 Home Oil Tower 324-8th Avenue SW, Calgary, Alberta Phone: (403) 232-7690 Fax: (403) 232-5014 EMail: jenseng@ppdm.org From majordomo-users-owner Wed Nov 1 15:53:14 1995 Received: (majordom@localhost) by miles.greatcircle.com (8.7.1/Miles-950430-1) id PAA14067 for majordomo-users-outgoing; Wed, 1 Nov 1995 15:38:28 -0800 (PST) Received: from netcom18.netcom.com (netcom18.netcom.com [192.100.81.131]) by miles.greatcircle.com (8.7.1/Miles-950430-1) with SMTP id PAA14054 for ; Wed, 1 Nov 1995 15:38:24 -0800 (PST) Received: by netcom18.netcom.com (8.6.12/Netcom) id PAA04784; Wed, 1 Nov 1995 15:38:01 -0800 Date: Wed, 1 Nov 1995 15:38:01 -0800 From: alcocer@netcom.com (Dario Alcocer) Message-Id: <199511012338.PAA04784@netcom18.netcom.com> To: root Cc: majordomo-users@greatcircle.com Subject: Re: Reply of remote command request fails In-Reply-To: References: <199511011849.KAA03933@netcom12.netcom.com> Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk >>>>> "Mark" == root writes: Mark> I am thinking it may be your mail system not your Mark> majordomo. Could it be that mail only works for root not for Mark> regular users (such as majordomo)? Mark, thanks for your reply. E-mail seems to work for normal users; I've been able to send successfully from my user login (uid=1000, gid=20) using the VM package within Emacs; however, I'm a member of wheel as well. I don't know if send mail runs using my euid or my own uid. I'll try using /bin/mail to send the e-mail, and I'll try taking myself out of wheel to see if it helps. As for Majordomo sending e-mail, it can send to other users, as long as they're local. In this case, it seems that sendmail gets called correctly. The minute Majordomo e-mail needs to leave my machine via UUCP, sendmail fails to create a UUCP job for it. If I send a message from my login using VM, however, the mail makes it out and eventually gets delivered. -- Dario Alcocer alcocer@netcom.com From majordomo-users-owner Wed Nov 1 17:25:31 1995 Received: (majordom@localhost) by miles.greatcircle.com (8.7.1/Miles-950430-1) id QAA16716 for majordomo-users-outgoing; Wed, 1 Nov 1995 16:54:26 -0800 (PST) Received: from god ([198.166.248.129]) by miles.greatcircle.com (8.7.1/Miles-950430-1) with SMTP id QAA16707 for ; Wed, 1 Nov 1995 16:54:17 -0800 (PST) Date: Wed, 1 Nov 1995 21:51:20 -0400 (AST) From: root To: majordomo-users@greatcircle.com Subject: Munged subject in moderated lists Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk Someone mentioned this problem and I didnt think it applied to me so I deleted the message. I just posted another message to my moderated list and encountered the same problem. The subject line was gone, the first couple of header lines (Date: and From:) were there then the first paragraph/sentence (two lines) of my message, then the "Sender:" and "Precedence:" headers, then a blank line then the rest of the message. Since I have posted a couple other messages successfully, and it took me much experimenting (due to the actual list file being trashed by disk corruption, it turned out) to get those two posted, I feel I have now enough info to formulate a tentative theory as to what is happening. This message that had the problem was one I tried to shortcut the approval of by putting in "Approved: mypassword" as the first line of the message when first sending it, instead of waiting for it to get bounced. Whereas when the bounce occurs, one method of approval that has worked for me is to export the message to a file, put the Approved: header in the very start of the file, even before the "From with no colon after it" line that starts the message. Thus my tentative hypothesis for the person who encountered this problem is that they may be putting the Approved: line deeper into the message than at the very very start of the file. I know, the docs say you can put it at the start of the message. Fine. Whatever. Meanwhile though, I can tell you that I can duplicate the problem by placing the Approved header as the first line of the body of a message, but have NOT yet duplicated the problem (ie, had no problem) when placing the Approved header at the very very start of the file, preceding even the initial "From", the one that has no colon. This can be accomplished in e.g. pine by using "export" to export the message to a file, then edit the file and put in AS VERY FIRST LINE of the file the approved header; then go back into pine and use control-R "read file" to read the file back in as body of message. The major difference between this and just originally sending a message that has an approved header from the start, is that following the approved header will be another header, the header the mail had when first sent. Also, the first thing following the approved header will be a >From line of the sort that has no colon. Hopefully this will serve as an adequate workaround for whoever had written about this problem. Blessed Be. -MarkM- From majordomo-users-owner Wed Nov 1 18:24:18 1995 Received: (majordom@localhost) by miles.greatcircle.com (8.7.1/Miles-950430-1) id RAA20176 for majordomo-users-outgoing; Wed, 1 Nov 1995 17:54:03 -0800 (PST) Received: from kitten.mcs.com (Kitten.mcs.com [192.160.127.90]) by miles.greatcircle.com (8.7.1/Miles-950430-1) with SMTP id RAA20167 for ; Wed, 1 Nov 1995 17:53:59 -0800 (PST) Received: from venus.mcs.com (root@Venus.mcs.com [192.160.127.92]) by kitten.mcs.com (8.6.10/8.6.9) with SMTP id TAA12542 for ; Wed, 1 Nov 1995 19:54:00 -0600 Received: by venus.mcs.com (/\==/\ Smail3.1.28.1 #28.5) id ; Wed, 1 Nov 95 19:54 CST Message-Id: Subject: name@mcs.com vs name@mcs.net To: majordomo-users@greatcircle.com Date: Wed, 1 Nov 1995 19:53:59 -0600 (CST) From: "Bob Salita" X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] Content-Type: text Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk My provider is known as both mcs.com and mcs.net. I can email anyone using name@mcs.com or name@mcs.net interchangable. However, when used in a majordomo subscriber list, name@mcs.net never arrives but name@mcs.com always arrives. Also my mail alias name@softworksltd.com does work either. What is going on? I assume the DNS records are somehow different. What is the fix? Also, am I correct that somehow majordomo detects duplicate subscriber addresses and won't send email multiple times. Or is that some other mechanism elsewhere? ___________________________________________________________________ Bob Salita Bob_Salita@SoftworksLtd.com software developer Softworks Limited http://www.mcs.com/~softwork ___________________________________________________________________ Phil Zimmermann, PGP author, is a hero, not a criminal! Help Phil by using this slogan on your email. From majordomo-users-owner Wed Nov 1 22:53:14 1995 Received: (majordom@localhost) by miles.greatcircle.com (8.7.1/Miles-950430-1) id WAA03340 for majordomo-users-outgoing; Wed, 1 Nov 1995 22:42:11 -0800 (PST) Received: from kitten.mcs.com (Kitten.mcs.com [192.160.127.90]) by miles.greatcircle.com (8.7.1/Miles-950430-1) with SMTP id WAA03332 for ; Wed, 1 Nov 1995 22:42:08 -0800 (PST) Received: from venus.mcs.com (root@Venus.mcs.com [192.160.127.92]) by kitten.mcs.com (8.6.10/8.6.9) with SMTP id AAA00769 for ; Thu, 2 Nov 1995 00:42:08 -0600 Received: by venus.mcs.com (/\==/\ Smail3.1.28.1 #28.5) id ; Thu, 2 Nov 95 00:42 CST Message-Id: Subject: mcs.com vs. mcs.net problem solved To: majordomo-users@greatcircle.com Date: Thu, 2 Nov 1995 00:42:09 -0600 (CST) From: "Bob Salita" X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] Content-Type: text Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk Yesterday (Wends) I inquired about why addresses such as name@mcs.com would work but name@mcs.net never worked. Turns out that my /etc/sendmail.cf file had "OK MX" option commented out. That is the default setup for RS/6000 AIX 4.1. Should this problem/solution be in the FAQ? ___________________________________________________________________ Bob Salita Bob_Salita@SoftworksLtd.com software developer Softworks Limited http://www.mcs.com/~softwork ___________________________________________________________________ Phil Zimmermann, PGP author, is a hero, not a criminal! Help Phil by using this slogan on your email. From majordomo-users-owner Wed Nov 1 22:55:24 1995 Received: (majordom@localhost) by miles.greatcircle.com (8.7.1/Miles-950430-1) id WAA03175 for majordomo-users-outgoing; Wed, 1 Nov 1995 22:33:33 -0800 (PST) Received: from cthia.sojourn.com (cthia.sojourn.com [199.177.127.10]) by miles.greatcircle.com (8.7.1/Miles-950430-1) with SMTP id WAA03162 for ; Wed, 1 Nov 1995 22:33:27 -0800 (PST) Received: from cthia.sojourn.com by cthia.sojourn.com with smtp (Smail3.1.29.1 #7) id m0tAtGS-000CMZC; Thu, 2 Nov 95 01:36 EST Message-Id: X-Sender: roshne@menzo.sojourn.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 2.1.2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Thu, 02 Nov 1995 01:33:33 -0500 To: root , majordomo-users@greatcircle.com From: Rod Shelton Subject: Re: Munged subject in moderated lists Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk The solution mentioned here, worked wonderfully! Thanks for the lead, I thought I was following directions. :) At 09:51 PM 11/1/95 -0400, root wrote: > >Someone mentioned this problem and I didnt think it applied to me so I >deleted the message. > >I just posted another message to my moderated list and encountered the >same problem. The subject line was gone, the first couple of header lines >(Date: and From:) were there then the first paragraph/sentence (two >lines) of my message, then the "Sender:" and "Precedence:" headers, then >a blank line then the rest of the message. Since I have posted a couple >other messages successfully, and it took me much experimenting (due to >the actual list file being trashed by disk corruption, it turned out) to >get those two posted, I feel I have now enough info to formulate a >tentative theory as to what is happening. > >This message that had the problem was one I tried to shortcut the >approval of by putting in "Approved: mypassword" as the first line of the >message when first sending it, instead of waiting for it to get bounced. >Whereas when the bounce occurs, one method of approval that has worked >for me is to export the message to a file, put the Approved: header in >the very start of the file, even before the "From with no colon after it" >line that starts the message. > >Thus my tentative hypothesis for the person who encountered this problem >is that they may be putting the Approved: line deeper into the message >than at the very very start of the file. I know, the docs say you can put >it at the start of the message. Fine. Whatever. Meanwhile though, I can >tell you that I can duplicate the problem by placing the Approved header >as the first line of the body of a message, but have NOT yet duplicated >the problem (ie, had no problem) when placing the Approved header at the >very very start of the file, preceding even the initial "From", the one >that has no colon. This can be accomplished in e.g. pine by using >"export" to export the message to a file, then edit the file and put in >AS VERY FIRST LINE of the file the approved header; then go back into >pine and use control-R "read file" to read the file back in as body of >message. > >The major difference between this and just originally sending a message >that has an approved header from the start, is that following the >approved header will be another header, the header the mail had when >first sent. Also, the first thing following the approved header will be a >>From line of the sort that has no colon. > >Hopefully this will serve as an adequate workaround for whoever had >written about this problem. > >Blessed Be. -MarkM- > > -- Rod Shelton Senior System Administrator for Sojourn Systems roshne@sojourn.com For accounts and services contact: support@sojourn.com From majordomo-users-owner Thu Nov 2 06:23:46 1995 Received: (majordom@localhost) by miles.greatcircle.com (8.7.1/Miles-950430-1) id FAA16082 for majordomo-users-outgoing; Thu, 2 Nov 1995 05:53:21 -0800 (PST) Received: from ciesin.org (mail.ciesin.org [160.39.8.11]) by miles.greatcircle.com (8.7.1/Miles-950430-1) with SMTP id FAA16074 for ; Thu, 2 Nov 1995 05:53:17 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail.ciesin.org by ciesin.org (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA05571; Thu, 2 Nov 95 08:55:44 EST Message-Id: <9511021355.AA05571@ciesin.org> To: majordomo-users@greatcircle.com Subject: starting digest? Date: Thu, 02 Nov 1995 08:55:43 -0500 From: Henk Meij Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk Not quite comprehending what's not working on our system. The 'index' command is working and returns a list of get-able files (one for each day). There is a digest-work/ directory and a archives/ and archives/-digest directory. The information in the .config file has been filled in: digest_archive = digest_issue = 1 digest_name = AGIS-L digest_rm_footer = digest_rm_fronter = digest_volume = 1 digest_work_dir = maxlength = 80000 When I issue the mkdigest command to manually make a digest I get the following error back: >>>> mkdigest agis-l agis-l-hmeij *** digest: failed errors follow No messages. Stopped ABORT No messages. Stopped at majordomo.pl line 213, <_GEN_0> line 1. Missing something here. -Henk From majordomo-users-owner Thu Nov 2 07:25:37 1995 Received: (majordom@localhost) by miles.greatcircle.com (8.7.1/Miles-950430-1) id HAA18086 for majordomo-users-outgoing; Thu, 2 Nov 1995 07:15:08 -0800 (PST) Received: from umbc7.umbc.edu (f-umbc7.umbc.edu [130.85.3.7]) by miles.greatcircle.com (8.7.1/Miles-950430-1) with SMTP id HAA18079 for ; Thu, 2 Nov 1995 07:15:06 -0800 (PST) Received: (from omar@localhost) by umbc7.umbc.edu (8.6.12/Umbc) id KAA19029 for Majordomo-Users@greatcircle.com; Thu, 2 Nov 1995 10:15:09 -0500 Date: Thu, 2 Nov 1995 10:15:09 -0500 From: Omar Siddique Message-Id: <199511021515.KAA19029@umbc7.umbc.edu> To: Majordomo-Users@greatcircle.com Subject: multiple owners? Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk Can a majordomo list have more than one owner? From the standpoint of the aliases file, it'll work, but how about resend/etc? Will they be confused by this? Thanks, -omar From majordomo-users-owner Thu Nov 2 07:26:03 1995 Received: (majordom@localhost) by miles.greatcircle.com (8.7.1/Miles-950430-1) id HAA18013 for majordomo-users-outgoing; Thu, 2 Nov 1995 07:12:36 -0800 (PST) Received: from tortola.usgcc.odu.edu ([128.82.48.91]) by miles.greatcircle.com (8.7.1/Miles-950430-1) with SMTP id HAA18006 for ; Thu, 2 Nov 1995 07:12:33 -0800 (PST) Received: (from tim@localhost) by tortola.usgcc.odu.edu (8.6.8/8.6.6.Beta9) id KAA09538; Thu, 2 Nov 1995 10:13:40 -0500 Date: Thu, 2 Nov 1995 10:13:39 -0500 (EST) From: "Timothy M. Hughes" To: majordomo-users@GreatCircle.COM Subject: wrapper problems Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk i am getting this error when trying to test majordomo: maui:/home/tim] echo help | /usr/lib/sendmail -v majordomo majordomo... aliased to |"/usr/local/majordomo-1.93/wrappers/majordom/wrapper majordomo" |"/usr/local/majordomo-1.93/wrappers/majordom/wrapper majordomo"... Connecting to prog... sh: wrapper not available for sendmail programs |"/usr/local/majordomo-1.93/wrappers/majordom/wrapper majordomo"... Service unavailable majordomo-owner... aliased to tim /home/tim/.forward: line 1: forwarding to tim@tortola.usgcc.odu.edu tim@tortola.usgcc.odu.edu... Connecting to tortola.usgcc.odu.edu. via smtp... 220-tortola.usgcc.odu.edu Sendmail 8.6.8/8.6.6.Beta9 ready at Thu, 2 Nov 1995 09:55:16 -0500 220 ESMTP spoken here >>> EHLO maui.cc.odu.edu 250-tortola.usgcc.odu.edu Hello maui.cc.odu.edu, pleased to meet you 250-EXPN 250-SIZE 250 HELP >>> MAIL From:<> SIZE=105 250 <>... Sender ok >>> RCPT To: 250 ... Recipient ok >>> DATA 354 Enter mail, end with "." on a line by itself >>> . 250 JAA09398 Message accepted for delivery tim@tortola.usgcc.odu.edu... Sent (JAA09398 Message accepted for delivery) MAILER-DAEMON... Closing connection to tortola.usgcc.odu.edu. >>> QUIT 221 tortola.usgcc.odu.edu closing connection Any ideas. I believe the permissions are set correctly and everything is where it is supposed to be. Any and all help is appreciated! Tim From majordomo-users-owner Thu Nov 2 08:23:07 1995 Received: (majordom@localhost) by miles.greatcircle.com (8.7.1/Miles-950430-1) id IAA19149 for majordomo-users-outgoing; Thu, 2 Nov 1995 08:03:39 -0800 (PST) Received: from iac.es (suncc.ll.iac.es [161.72.14.2]) by miles.greatcircle.com (8.7.1/Miles-950430-1) with SMTP id IAA19087 for ; Thu, 2 Nov 1995 08:00:57 -0800 (PST) Received: from nido.ll.iac.es by iac.es (4.1/1.0) id AA01034; Thu, 2 Nov 95 16:00:14 GMT Received: from cisne.ll.iac.es by nido.ll.iac.es (5.x/SMI-SVR4) id AA18917; Thu, 2 Nov 1995 15:58:58 GMT Received: by cisne.ll.iac.es (5.x/SMI-SVR4) id AA00638; Thu, 2 Nov 1995 15:58:56 GMT Date: Thu, 2 Nov 1995 15:58:56 GMT From: dsg@ll.iac.es (Diego Sierra) Message-Id: <9511021558.AA00638@cisne.ll.iac.es> To: majordomo-users@greatcircle.com Subject: newbie question? X-Sun-Charset: US-ASCII Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk Hi! In the docs I read that I shall set up an alias for the list itself using the wrapper and resend, and another alias for the email addresses of the people belonging to the list. If I want a moderated list this is achived by using the resend command, so people send mail to the list and resend moderates it, but what happen if someone send mail directly to the alias with the include ??? Can anyone bypass the moderation by sending mail directly to that alias ??? Cheers, Diego Sierra. From majordomo-users-owner Thu Nov 2 13:53:47 1995 Received: (majordom@localhost) by miles.greatcircle.com (8.7.1/Miles-950430-1) id NAA28672 for majordomo-users-outgoing; Thu, 2 Nov 1995 13:29:44 -0800 (PST) Received: from sol.cwsl.edu (sol.cwsl.edu [204.94.57.2]) by miles.greatcircle.com (8.7.1/Miles-950430-1) with SMTP id NAA28663 for ; Thu, 2 Nov 1995 13:29:39 -0800 (PST) Received: from ram.cwsl.edu (ram.cwsl.edu [204.94.57.11]) by sol.cwsl.edu (8.6.9/8.6.9) with SMTP id NAA23353 for ; Thu, 2 Nov 1995 13:27:50 -0800 Date: Thu, 2 Nov 1995 13:29:53 -0800 (PST) From: "Raleigh Moody " To: Majordomo Users Subject: /tmp/resend* files still accumulate X-Sender: ram@cwsl.edu Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk Running: Majordomo 1.92 Perl 5.000 Solaris 2.3 Yes, I've read the FAQ and fixed line 347 in resend (changed the double- quotes to angle brackets), so it's now: unlink (); This is the change that the FAQ says should fix this. But /tmp/resend.in.* and /tmp/resend.out.* files still accumulate. I've also fixed all occurrences of the "@" within strings to "\@", in both resend and majordomo, per the FAQ. Is there something else I'm missing? I'm about ready to make a cron entry to delete these darn things each day in the wee hours, but I really hate doing band-aids like that. Can anyone help? Let me know if more info would be helpful. Thanks, Raleigh ----------------------------------------------------------------------- Raleigh Moody Internet: rmoody@cwsl.edu Network Specialist California Western School of Law Voice: 619.525.1406 225 Cedar Street, San Diego, CA 92101 Fax: 619.685.2916 ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From majordomo-users-owner Thu Nov 2 15:24:34 1995 Received: (majordom@localhost) by miles.greatcircle.com (8.7.1/Miles-950430-1) id PAA01664 for majordomo-users-outgoing; Thu, 2 Nov 1995 15:04:18 -0800 (PST) Received: from sol.cwsl.edu (sol.cwsl.edu [204.94.57.2]) by miles.greatcircle.com (8.7.1/Miles-950430-1) with SMTP id PAA01657 for ; Thu, 2 Nov 1995 15:04:13 -0800 (PST) Received: from ram.cwsl.edu (ram.cwsl.edu [204.94.57.11]) by sol.cwsl.edu (8.6.9/8.6.9) with SMTP id PAA24002 for ; Thu, 2 Nov 1995 15:02:25 -0800 Date: Thu, 2 Nov 1995 15:04:29 -0800 (PST) From: "Raleigh Moody " To: Majordomo Users Subject: Re: /tmp/resend* files still accumulate X-Sender: ram@cwsl.edu In-Reply-To: <199511022157.QAA05408@stat.lsa.umich.edu> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk > > Yes, I've read the FAQ and fixed line 347 in resend (changed the double- > > quotes to angle brackets), so it's now: > > > > unlink (); > > > > This is the change that the FAQ says should fix this. > > I was looking through resend today (just started using it last night), > and found that I had made that change...but there is one other unlike > (around line 26x?) that had "" instead of <>. So I changed that. I > hope that's the right thing to do... > > please reply to the list with the "correct" answer. good luck. It was probably line 260. The FAQ needs to be updated on this. I believe I made a change there too. Greping for unlink in resend I get: cat -n resend | grep unlink 260 unlink(); 335 unlink(); 347 unlink(); 424 unlink(); I don't see anything wrong here. So why are /tmp/resend* files not going away? Does anyone know which line(s) other than line 347 which is responsible for deleting these files? I don't know Perl, so I need some help on this. -Raleigh ----------------------------------------------------------------------- Raleigh Moody Internet: rmoody@cwsl.edu Network Specialist California Western School of Law Voice: 619.525.1406 225 Cedar Street, San Diego, CA 92101 Fax: 619.685.2916 ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From majordomo-users-owner Thu Nov 2 15:55:10 1995 Received: (majordom@localhost) by miles.greatcircle.com (8.7.1/Miles-950430-1) id PAA02496 for majordomo-users-outgoing; Thu, 2 Nov 1995 15:24:49 -0800 (PST) Received: from cthia.sojourn.com (cthia.sojourn.com [199.177.127.10]) by miles.greatcircle.com (8.7.1/Miles-950430-1) with SMTP id WAA22327 for ; Tue, 31 Oct 1995 22:51:44 -0800 (PST) Received: from cthia.sojourn.com by cthia.sojourn.com with smtp (Smail3.1.29.1 #7) id m0tAX4b-000CMYC; Wed, 1 Nov 95 01:54 EST Message-Id: X-Sender: roshne@sojourn1.sojourn.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 2.1.2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Wed, 01 Nov 1995 01:52:11 -0500 To: majordomo-users@greatcircle.com From: Rod Shelton Subject: help with list moderation please Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk Setup: Linux, majodomo 1.93 If I leave this list unmoderated it works like a charm, but the minute I moderate it, it spews this out as the message. Can anybody help me to identify why it is munging the subject line so badly? The subject was This is a test...#1,000,002, but now there is a space above and the other headers underneath. Like I said unmoderated this list works just fine, but moderated it spews. Help please! >Return-Path: >Date: Wed, 1 Nov 95 01:48 EST >From: owner-sojourn-list@sojourn.com >To: sojourn-list-outgoing@sojourn.com > >This is a test...#1,000,002 >Sender: owner-sojourn-list@cthia.sojourn.com >Precedence: bulk >Reply-To: sojourn-list@sojourn.com > >This moderation thing is screwed up! >-- >Rod Shelton >Senior System Administrator for Sojourn Systems >roshne@sojourn.com >For accounts and services contact: support@sojourn.com > > -- Rod Shelton Senior System Administrator for Sojourn Systems roshne@sojourn.com For accounts and services contact: support@sojourn.com From majordomo-users-owner Thu Nov 2 16:00:37 1995 Received: (majordom@localhost) by miles.greatcircle.com (8.7.1/Miles-950430-1) id PAA02491 for majordomo-users-outgoing; Thu, 2 Nov 1995 15:24:44 -0800 (PST) Received: from ide.com (claven.IDE.COM [192.18.82.1]) by miles.greatcircle.com (8.7.1/Miles-950430-1) with SMTP id QAA06736 for ; Tue, 31 Oct 1995 16:41:43 -0800 (PST) Received: from shadowfx (78mac7.IDE.COM) by ide.com (4.1/IDE-1.0) id AA02283; Tue, 31 Oct 95 16:40:57 PST Received: by shadowfx (5.x/ide-1.0) id AA00579; Tue, 31 Oct 1995 16:40:42 -0800 Message-Id: <9511010040.AA00579@shadowfx> To: majordomo-users@greatcircle.coM Subject: ARGH IllegaL Date: Tue, 31 Oct 1995 16:40:41 -0800 From: Roy Rapoport Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk I've just finished setting up majordomo. Again. This time, whenever I try mailing 'subscribe mylist', I get: ----- Transcript of session follows ----- Who are you?: No such file or directory sh: 2097 Illegal instruction 554 "|/usr/majordomo/major/wrapper majordomo"... unknown mailer error 132 ----- Message header follows ----- Of course, another message reports that majordomo succeeded in subscribing me, but the list content seems to still be empty. The config file is created, though (this is starting fresh,with no config file). The relevant aliases from my aliases file: mylist:"|/usr/majordomo/major/resend -l test -h ide.com mylist-outgoing" mylist-outgoing: :include:/usr/majordomo/major/lists/mylist owner-mylist: rsr@ide.com mylist-owner: rsr@ide.com owner-mylist-outgoing: rsr@ide.com mylist-outgoing-owner: rsr@ide.com mylist-request: "|/usr/majordomo/major/wrapper majordomo -l mylist" mylist-approval: rsr@ide.com majordomo: "|/usr/majordomo/major/wrapper majordomo" majordomo-owner: rsr@ide.com owner-majordomo: rsr@ide.com The files seem to have the right permissions on them -- rwx for both user and group (well, no 'x' for most of the text files). Anybody got any clue? -roy --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Roy S. Rapoport UNIX/Mac System Administrator rsr@ide.com I do not, of course, speak for IDE Phone: 415-543-1314 ext. 280 Fax: 415-543-0145 From majordomo-users-owner Thu Nov 2 16:53:09 1995 Received: (majordom@localhost) by miles.greatcircle.com (8.7.1/Miles-950430-1) id QAA04372 for majordomo-users-outgoing; Thu, 2 Nov 1995 16:24:14 -0800 (PST) Received: from sun.online.ab.ca (sun.online.ab.ca [204.209.46.1]) by miles.greatcircle.com (8.7.1/Miles-950430-1) with SMTP id QAA04362 for ; Thu, 2 Nov 1995 16:24:10 -0800 (PST) Received: from [204.209.46.21] (zeebee.online.ab.ca [204.209.46.21]) by sun.online.ab.ca (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id RAA06701 for ; Thu, 2 Nov 1995 17:30:53 -0700 X-Sender: zindelak@sun.online.ab.ca Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Thu, 2 Nov 1995 17:29:35 -0800 To: majordomo-users@greatcircle.com From: zindelak@online.ab.ca (Zbigniew Indelak) Subject: I'm stuck. Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk OK. I'm stuck. I have set up Majordomo 1.93 on BSDI 2.0.1. I compiled it, worked out any permissions problems and majordomo works great. However, I can't post to my list! And I'm supposed to be the moderator. Matter of fact, when I send a message to my list (online-announce) NOTHING HAPPENS! It seems like the message just sinks into the system and dissapears into the ether! I have the following aliases in my /etc/aliases file: # Aliases for online-announce list online-announce: "| /var/majordomo/bin/wrapper resend -l online-announce -h sun.online.ab.ca online-announce-outgoing" owner-online-announce: online-announce-owner online-announce-outgoing: :include:/var/majordomo/lists/online-announce, online-announce-archive owner-online-announce-outgoing: online-announce-owner # online-announce archive online-announce-archive: /var/majordomo/archives/online-announce owner-online-announce-archive: online-announce-owner # online-announce request online-announce-request: "| /var/majordomo/bin/wrapper request-answer onl ine-announce" owner-online-announce-request: online-announce-owner # redirect mail to human operator online-announce-approval: admin online-announce-owner: admin owner-online-announce-owner: admin Sending mail to online-announce and online-announce-request has no effect (I haven't even gotten around to online-announce-archive :-)). Nothing happens. If you have any suggestions as to what I could have done wrong, please let me know. Online-Announce is supposed to be moderated (I said moderated = yes in online-announce.config). Thank you in advance. Zbigniew Indelak (ZeeBee) | e-mail: zindelak@online.ab.ca Systems Analyst | zindelak@olcorp.com Network Administrator | zindelak@bol.net Online Internet Services Corp. | http://www.olcorp.com From majordomo-users-owner Thu Nov 2 21:23:04 1995 Received: (majordom@localhost) by miles.greatcircle.com (8.7.1/Miles-950430-1) id VAA14450 for majordomo-users-outgoing; Thu, 2 Nov 1995 21:21:46 -0800 (PST) Received: from emout05.mail.aol.com (emout05.mail.aol.com [198.81.10.37]) by miles.greatcircle.com (8.7.1/Miles-950430-1) with SMTP id VAA14443 for ; Thu, 2 Nov 1995 21:21:43 -0800 (PST) From: GregoryW@aol.com Received: by emout05.mail.aol.com (8.6.12/8.6.12) id AAA02284 for majordomo-users@greatcircle.com; Fri, 3 Nov 1995 00:21:49 -0500 Date: Fri, 3 Nov 1995 00:21:49 -0500 Message-ID: <951103001626_11414440@emout05.mail.aol.com> To: majordomo-users@greatcircle.com Subject: majordomo setup Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk I wish to install majordomo on a server. I have downloaded several files from the internet, but am unsure which is the one that I need. The files are: majordomo_tar_Z.uu 332 k admin-www_tar.gz 14k majordomo-www-1_1.tar 50k majordomo-www-1_1.tgz 11k majordomo-www-1_1tar.gz 11k I assume the first one is the actual majordomo code - I obtained it from greatcircle's FTP site. The other files are different formats of perl script which is supposed to allow access to majordomo commands via HTML....? I have also downloaded and printed three text files: Majordomo List Owner's Guide - 11 pages Readme majordomo ver. 1.93 - 23 pages Majordomo section from Nutshell Handbook "Managing Internet Information Services" - covers ver. 1.62 My situation is this: I have access to the server via PPP and telnet. I can create directories and upload web pages, etc. I am very unfamiliar with UNIX. I am working from a PC at home. My account was created by a person who is more familiar with UNIX, but has left the employ of the company that owns the server. This leaves me and one other person who knows even less about UNIX. I would like to learn UNIX as I go along. One of the first things I want to do is manage a mailing list using majordomo. I belong to an Alaskan Malamute mailing list that uses majordomo and I love it. Here are some questions I have: 1. How do I check the PERL version on the server? I understand that it must be a fairly recent version. 2. Do I need a C compiler on the server? How would I check this? 3. I'm not sure of my status as a user - am I a superuser? Do I need to be? How do I become one? 4. Should I / how do I set the owner and the mode? If there is anyone out there with the time and patience to lead me through the installation process, I'd appreciate it. Thanks! GregoryW@aol.com From majordomo-users-owner Thu Nov 2 23:22:54 1995 Received: (majordom@localhost) by miles.greatcircle.com (8.7.1/Miles-950430-1) id XAA16751 for majordomo-users-outgoing; Thu, 2 Nov 1995 23:15:04 -0800 (PST) Received: from fang.dsto.defence.gov.au (fang.dsto.defence.gov.au [131.185.2.5]) by miles.greatcircle.com (8.7.1/Miles-950430-1) with SMTP id XAA16733 for ; Thu, 2 Nov 1995 23:14:57 -0800 (PST) Received: from kaos.dsto.defence.gov.au by fang.dsto.defence.gov.au; (8.6.12/1.1.8.2/13May95-0346PM) id RAA21930; Fri, 3 Nov 1995 17:44:46 +1030 Received: by kaos.dsto.defence.gov.au (AIX 3.2/UCB 5.64/4.03) id AA15050; Fri, 3 Nov 1995 17:44:30 -0600 From: robinson@kaos.dsto.defence.gov.au (Greg Robinson) Message-Id: <9511032344.AA15050@kaos.dsto.defence.gov.au> Subject: can't get noadvertise to work on osf/1 To: majordomo-users@greatcircle.com Date: Fri, 3 Nov 1995 17:44:29 +22305350 (CST) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] Content-Type: text Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk Hi, For the life of me I can't get no advertise working on OSF/1. I'm running OSF/1 V3.2 and Perl V5.000 In the FAQ it says: How can I hide lists so they can't be viewed by 'lists'? That is what advertise and noadvertise are for. The two keywords take regular expressions that are matched against the from address of the sender. A list display follows the rules: 1. If the from address is on the list, it is shown. 2. If the from address matches a regexp in noadvertise (e.g. /.*/) the list is not shown. 3. If the advertise list is empty, the list is shown unless 2 applies. 4. If the advertise list is non-empty, the from address must match an address in advertise. Otherwise the list is not shown. Rule 2 applies, so you could allow all hosts in umb.edu except hosts in cs.umb.edu. I am using this: # noadvertise [regexp_array] (undef) # If the requestor name matches one of these regexps, then the list # will not be listed in the output of a lists command. Noadvertise # overrides advertise. noadvertise << END /.*/ END Now, I am not on the list, but 2 others are, and I can still list the list in the lists command. What stupid things am I doing wrong. Thankx. Greg. -- Work: robinson@dsto.defence.gov.au Home: greg@arrakis.apana.org.au From majordomo-users-owner Thu Nov 2 23:53:32 1995 Received: (majordom@localhost) by miles.greatcircle.com (8.7.1/Miles-950430-1) id XAA17889 for majordomo-users-outgoing; Thu, 2 Nov 1995 23:52:48 -0800 (PST) Received: from stat.lsa.umich.edu (mercury.stat.lsa.umich.edu [141.211.66.42]) by miles.greatcircle.com (8.7.1/Miles-950430-1) with SMTP id XAA17882 for ; Thu, 2 Nov 1995 23:52:45 -0800 (PST) Received: from mercury.stat.lsa.umich.edu by stat.lsa.umich.edu (8.6.12/2.2) id CAA00963; Fri, 3 Nov 1995 02:52:45 -0500 Message-Id: <199511030752.CAA00963@stat.lsa.umich.edu> To: majordomo-users@greatcircle.com Subject: resend tricks Date: Fri, 03 Nov 1995 02:52:45 -0500 From: "Kathryn L. Madison" Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk I finally got around to making my mailing list use resend, and boy is it great! the administrative checks are going to make my life happy! But (of course), I do have a couple questions/comments. First of all, I want to get the "BOUNCE" messages to go to "list-approval" and the mail bouncing messages (unknown user, etc) to go to owner-list. the readme for resend says that the "-f" flag is "who the bounce messages go to". Wrong. Here's the line I currently have: qms:"|/var/users/majordom/bin/wrapper resend -l qms -h mail.stat.lsa.umich.edu -f qms-approval qms-outgoing" (qms is the mailing list. this is all on one line, wrapped) ------- Question 2, When I send these "BOUNCE" messages through the approve program, nothing happens. no error message, no mail sent, no nothing. When I edit the output and all as described, it works *great*! but that's annoying, i'd rather use approve. the password is correct, i already use the approve program to approve subscriptions (the list is currently closed), and I'm using the same .majordomo file. ------- Question 3, I have several things set up in the config file, including the "subject_prefix = QMS", which is working. but the "message footer" isn't working. I have a digest which has been going for over a year that has never used this option (altho something is always printed at the end of the digest). Here's the section in question: message_footer << END To unsubscribe, send mail to "qms-request@stat.lsa.umich.edu" with the text "unsubscribe". Please keep list messages relevant and not too long. END ------- any ideas? Thanks for taking the time to think about it. I checked last month's archives, and didn't see any of these questions answered (altho a couple of them were raised, and I did see some other interesting stuff!). I'll post a summary if there's interest. ka -- Kathy Madison SysAdmin, Department of Statistics klm@umich.edu College of LS&A, University of Michigan queen@stat.lsa.umich.edu maintainer of the Queen Mail Service My soul is painted like the wings of butterflies Fairytales of yesterday will grow but never die I can fly - my friends (Queen, The Show Must Go On) From majordomo-users-owner Fri Nov 3 07:53:13 1995 Received: (majordom@localhost) by miles.greatcircle.com (8.7.1/Miles-950430-1) id HAA02726 for majordomo-users-outgoing; Fri, 3 Nov 1995 07:36:41 -0800 (PST) Received: from homer.louisville.edu (homer.louisville.edu [136.165.1.20]) by miles.greatcircle.com (8.7.1/Miles-950430-1) with SMTP id HAA02719 for ; Fri, 3 Nov 1995 07:36:38 -0800 (PST) Received: by homer.louisville.edu; (5.65v3.0/1.1.8.2/03Jun94-0854PM) id AA24145; Fri, 3 Nov 1995 10:36:11 -0500 From: "Jason A. Dour" Message-Id: <9511031536.AA24145@homer.louisville.edu> Subject: A few questions... To: majordomo-users@greatcircle.com Date: Fri, 3 Nov 1995 10:36:10 -0500 (EST) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL22] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk I've been more than pleased with the overall performance of Mdomo since we installed is many months ago... I have a list of about 400 people and fairly heavy traffic that has been the "guinea pig" so to speak to put MD through the ringer as far as setup, admin, tweaking, et cetera. One question I still have is this: What good does 'mungedomain' do in the config file, for a restricted list? I want the list to have a closed posting status...so that only subscribers can post. Supposedly, mungedomain will take care of some of the problems I've had with people mailing from various clustered machines, or some other network setups that create various email addresses for one person. Yet, when I turn mungedomain to yes, I still have a problem. Doesn't mungedomian work along with the list file? How and when does the compare process occur? Jason +- Jason A. Dour ----------------------------------- Dark Father Amadeus -+ |----------- jadour01@[homer|ftp|ulkyvx|ulkyvm].louisville.edu -----------| |--------- Home Page : http://www.louisville.edu/~jadour01/ ----------| +--------- PJ Harvey : http://www.louisville.edu/~jadour01/pjh/ ----------+ From majordomo-users-owner Fri Nov 3 09:28:00 1995 Received: (majordom@localhost) by miles.greatcircle.com (8.7.1/Miles-950430-1) id JAA04282 for majordomo-users-outgoing; Fri, 3 Nov 1995 09:02:03 -0800 (PST) Received: from desiree.teleport.com (desiree.teleport.com [192.108.254.21]) by miles.greatcircle.com (8.7.1/Miles-950430-1) with SMTP id JAA04275 for ; Fri, 3 Nov 1995 09:01:59 -0800 (PST) Received: from kelly.teleport.com (mmerizan@kelly.teleport.com [192.108.254.10]) by desiree.teleport.com (8.6.12/8.6.9) with ESMTP id JAA14640 for ; Fri, 3 Nov 1995 09:02:04 -0800 From: Mark Merizan Message-Id: <199511031702.JAA14640@desiree.teleport.com> Subject: Re: majordomo archives To: majordomo-users@greatcircle.com Date: Fri, 3 Nov 1995 09:02:02 -0800 (PST) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24beta] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk How do I set up my mailing list to allow people to "get" files by sending mail to the list? I think that I understand how to tell MD to do that but am unclear on where the files should be placed (what directory) or how to tell MD where the files are. I've looked at the FAQ and the Chicago WWW and haven't found anything that deals with this specifically. Where aught I to be looking? Maybe there's something in the "Archives" for this list. How do I access those? Thanks in advance. Mark mmerizan@teleport.com -- A ship in a harbor is safe. But that is not what ships are built for. -Shedd From majordomo-users-owner Fri Nov 3 10:54:26 1995 Received: (majordom@localhost) by miles.greatcircle.com (8.7.1/Miles-950430-1) id KAA06327 for majordomo-users-outgoing; Fri, 3 Nov 1995 10:30:12 -0800 (PST) Received: from sol.cwsl.edu (sol.cwsl.edu [204.94.57.2]) by miles.greatcircle.com (8.7.1/Miles-950430-1) with SMTP id KAA06320 for ; Fri, 3 Nov 1995 10:30:08 -0800 (PST) Received: from ram.cwsl.edu (ram.cwsl.edu [204.94.57.11]) by sol.cwsl.edu (8.6.9/8.6.9) with SMTP id KAA26976; Fri, 3 Nov 1995 10:26:22 -0800 Date: Fri, 3 Nov 1995 10:28:31 -0800 (PST) From: "Raleigh Moody " To: GregoryW@aol.com cc: majordomo-users@GreatCircle.COM Subject: Re: majordomo setup X-Sender: ram@cwsl.edu In-Reply-To: <951103001626_11414440@emout05.mail.aol.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk a few pointers... > I wish to install majordomo on a server. > > I have downloaded several files from the internet, but am unsure which is the > one that I need. The files are: > > majordomo_tar_Z.uu 332 k This is the uu-encoded version (mailable). To download via ftp, get: ftp://ftp.greatcircle.com/pub/majordomo/majordomo-1.93.tar.Z > admin-www_tar.gz 14k > majordomo-www-1_1.tar 50k > majordomo-www-1_1.tgz 11k > majordomo-www-1_1tar.gz 11k > > I assume the first one is the actual majordomo code - I obtained it from > greatcircle's FTP site. The other files are different formats of perl script > which is supposed to allow access to majordomo commands via HTML....? I have > also downloaded and printed three text files: > > Majordomo List Owner's Guide - 11 pages > Readme majordomo ver. 1.93 - 23 pages > Majordomo section from Nutshell Handbook "Managing Internet Information > Services" - covers ver. 1.62 Good. This book will give you all need to know to get up and running. > My situation is this: I have access to the server via PPP and telnet. I can > create directories and upload web pages, etc. I am very unfamiliar with > UNIX. I am working from a PC at home. My account was created by a person > who is more familiar with UNIX, but has left the employ of the company that > owns the server. This leaves me and one other person who knows even less > about UNIX. I would like to learn UNIX as I go along. One of the first > things I want to do is manage a mailing list using majordomo. I belong to an > Alaskan Malamute mailing list that uses majordomo and I love it. > > Here are some questions I have: > > 1. How do I check the PERL version on the server? I understand that it must > be a fairly recent version. "perl -v" gives you the version number. > 2. Do I need a C compiler on the server? How would I check this? Yes, you need to compile wrapper. Type gcc and see what happens. If it's not in your path, it's probably somewhere on the unix machine. Unix boxes almost always have some C compiler. > 3. I'm not sure of my status as a user - am I a superuser? Do I need to be? > How do I become one? You definitely need to have the rights to: a) create a user (the user "majordom" needs to be created) b) edit /etc/aliases and execute "newaliases" If you don't have the rights to do these things, you won't be able to set up Majordomo without the assistance of a superuser. > 4. Should I / how do I set the owner and the mode? All this is detailed in the docs and the O'Reilly book. There really is no substitute for reading them. > If there is anyone out there with the time and patience to lead me through > the installation process, I'd appreciate it. Thanks! Read the "Installing Majordomo" stuff from O'Reilly. It's step-by-step. -Raleigh ----------------------------------------------------------------------- Raleigh Moody Internet: rmoody@cwsl.edu Network Specialist California Western School of Law Voice: 619.525.1406 225 Cedar Street, San Diego, CA 92101 Fax: 619.685.2916 ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From majordomo-users-owner Fri Nov 3 17:53:16 1995 Received: (majordom@localhost) by miles.greatcircle.com (8.7.1/Miles-950430-1) id RAA16719 for majordomo-users-outgoing; Fri, 3 Nov 1995 17:31:14 -0800 (PST) Received: from caracas.terraport.net (terraport.net [205.189.144.2]) by miles.greatcircle.com (8.7.1/Miles-950430-1) with SMTP id XAA16951 for ; Thu, 2 Nov 1995 23:23:51 -0800 (PST) Received: from westhill.skl.com (root@link.skl.com [205.233.242.254]) by caracas.terraport.net (8.6.12/8.6.12) with ESMTP id CAA11049 for ; Fri, 3 Nov 1995 02:23:49 -0500 Received: from abacab (abacab.skl.com [205.233.242.127]) by westhill.skl.com (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id CAA11958 for ; Fri, 3 Nov 1995 02:24:45 -0500 Received: by abacab with Microsoft Mail id <01BAA993.4C1D8680@abacab>; Fri, 3 Nov 1995 02:23:00 -0500 Message-ID: <01BAA993.4C1D8680@abacab> From: Steve Linn To: "majordomo-users@greatcircle.com" Subject: RE: majordomo setup Date: Fri, 3 Nov 1995 02:22:58 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk ---------- From: GregoryW@aol.com[SMTP:GregoryW@aol.com] Sent: Friday, November 03, 1995 12:21 AM To: majordomo-users@greatcircle.com Subject: majordomo setup I wish to install majordomo on a server. Here are some questions I have: Gregory, I am just in the process of installing Majordomo as well. I will try to answer some of your questions. Hope this helps. 1. How do I check the PERL version on the server? I understand that it must be a fairly recent version. If you issue the command "perl -version" you can find the version of perl that is installed. 2. Do I need a C compiler on the server? How would I check this? You need C compiler to install the wrapper program for your system. You can find out if you have access to the compiler by issuing: cc --version 3. I'm not sure of my status as a user - am I a superuser? I am not sure about other UNIX systems, but on my Linux box, root is the superuser. Do I need to be? I needed root to add the majordom user and group, and to setup the initial ownership and securities. Everything after that I was able to do from the majordom id. How do I become one? If you know the password for the root id then you can use "su" to setup the initial requirements. 4. Should I / how do I set the owner and the mode? In the zip file majordomo-1.93.tar.Z under the directory /Doc I found a file called majordomo.ora. This has an excellent section that takes you step-by-step through the install process. Like I say, I am just installing the package myself, so I hope this helps and that I have not led you astray. Steve ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Systems Knowledge Link SKL Enterprises Dealers/Consultants in Computer Software Equipment Internet Services WWW Pages Remote Services Steve Linn E-Mail: slinn@skl.com http://www.skl.com From majordomo-users-owner Fri Nov 3 19:22:55 1995 Received: (majordom@localhost) by miles.greatcircle.com (8.7.1/Miles-950430-1) id SAA20008 for majordomo-users-outgoing; Fri, 3 Nov 1995 18:57:19 -0800 (PST) Received: from hyangdan.hit.co.kr (hyangdan.hit.co.kr [203.251.192.1]) by miles.greatcircle.com (8.7.1/Miles-950430-1) with SMTP id SAA19992 for ; Fri, 3 Nov 1995 18:57:11 -0800 (PST) Received: from windy ([203.251.197.112]) by hyangdan.hit.co.kr (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA07471; Sat, 4 Nov 95 11:54:22 KST Date: Sat, 4 Nov 95 11:54:09 KST Message-Id: <9511040254.AA07471@hyangdan.hit.co.kr> X-Sender: windy@hyangdan.hit.co.kr X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: Majordomo-Users@GreatCircle.com From: Kim SungIn Subject: majordomo setup ..? Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk Dear sir. How are you? I would like to build Mailing list. Would you let me know its installation method? I have it of version 1.93. And In the process of installation, listname, listname.passwd, listname.info files are made under the $listdir Directory in the "Creating New list" part. To subscriber these files, please announce with which contents and patterns. Thanks in advance for your help. --------------------------------------------------------- Name : Kim SungIn Company : Hyundai Information Technology Co., Ltd. E-mail : windy@hyangdan.hit.co.kr -------------------------------------------------------- From majordomo-users-owner Fri Nov 3 23:23:37 1995 Received: (majordom@localhost) by miles.greatcircle.com (8.7.1/Miles-950430-1) id XAA27208 for majordomo-users-outgoing; Fri, 3 Nov 1995 23:04:27 -0800 (PST) Received: from rainbow-jr.dreaming.org (rainbow-jr.dreaming.org [199.166.238.138]) by miles.greatcircle.com (8.7.1/Miles-950430-1) with SMTP id XAA27199 for ; Fri, 3 Nov 1995 23:04:10 -0800 (PST) Received: (from scrappy@localhost) by rainbow-jr.dreaming.org (8.6.11/8.6.9) id CAA00557; Sat, 4 Nov 1995 02:02:28 -0500 Date: Sat, 4 Nov 1995 02:02:21 -0500 (EST) From: "Marc G. Fournier" To: questions@freebsd.org cc: Majordomo-Users@GreatCircle.COM Subject: Majordomo problem: FAQ pointer or help... Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk Hi... I'm looking for either a pointer to something that will give me the answer, or a suggestions on how to find the answer... The problem is that majordomo doesn't seem to work under FreeBSD... When I first installed it (v1.93), I made the mistake of compiling wrapper to be 'non-POSIX', which means that when I ran it, I was getting error messages back in email telling me to recompile it. After recompiling, I'm getting absolutely nothing. No error messages even being sent back to the sender stating that something failed. Now, my /etc/aliases entries, I think, are pretty standard and brain dead. Not doing anything weird with it, just straight subscribe and mail-out stuff... #/etc/aliases, a piece of it majordomo: "|/usr/local/lib/majordomo/wrapper majordomo" owner-majordomo: scrappy majordomo-owner: scrappy # # Info List # info: :include:/usr/local/mail/lists/info owner-info:scrappy info-request: "|/usr/local/lib/majordomo/wrapper majordomo -l info" info-approval:scrappy Basically, its straight out of the majordomo README file. So, everything has the appearance of being correct. Perl is 4.036, FreeBSD is 2.0.5R, Majordomo is 1.93... So, either I'm missing something totally obvious (highly likely), or there is a bug between majordomo and freebsd (least likely)... Thanks... From majordomo-users-owner Sat Nov 4 14:23:10 1995 Received: (majordom@localhost) by miles.greatcircle.com (8.7.1/Miles-950430-1) id OAA12557 for majordomo-users-outgoing; Sat, 4 Nov 1995 14:17:58 -0800 (PST) Received: from caracas.terraport.net (caracas.terraport.net [205.189.144.2]) by miles.greatcircle.com (8.7.1/Miles-950430-1) with SMTP id HAA05526 for ; Sat, 4 Nov 1995 07:49:05 -0800 (PST) Received: from westhill.skl.com (root@link.skl.com [205.233.242.254]) by caracas.terraport.net (8.6.12/8.6.12) with ESMTP id KAA11494 for ; Sat, 4 Nov 1995 10:49:00 -0500 Received: from abacab (abacab.skl.com [205.233.242.127]) by westhill.skl.com (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id KAA03919 for ; Sat, 4 Nov 1995 10:49:53 -0500 Received: by abacab with Microsoft Mail id <01BAAAA2.FB076660@abacab>; Sat, 4 Nov 1995 10:47:47 -0500 Message-ID: <01BAAAA2.FB076660@abacab> From: Steve Linn To: "'majordomo-users@greatcircle.com'" Subject: Archive Problem Date: Sat, 4 Nov 1995 10:47:40 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk I have successfully managed to install Majordomo. I have created a "sample" list that I can "[un] subscribe" to. I can distribute the mail amongst the users of the list. However, no matter how much I try, I cannot get the Archive process to work. I have read and re-read the docs and tried the samples but it keeps failing with the following errors: Message delivered to mailing list sample-archive Message delivered to mailing list sample-outgoing /bbs/majordomo/archive/sample: line 0: /bbs/majordomo/archive/sample... cannot open: Permission denied 554 /bbs/majordomo/archive/sample: line 0: /bbs/majordomo/archive/sample... cannot open: Permission denied 550 /bbs/majordomo/archive/sample... Can't create output: Error 0 I have set the directory permissions to 775 and the file permissions to 664 per the documentation. The Aliases file is as follows: # # Sample Mailing List # owner-sample: sample-owner sample: "|/bbs/majordomo/wrapper resend -p bulk -M 10000 -l sample Sample-Owner -h mail.skl.com -s sample-outgoing" sample-owner: slinn sample-approval: sample-owner sample-outgoing: :include:/bbs/majordomo/lists/sample, sample-archive owner-sample-outgoing: sample-owner sample-archive: /bbs/majordomo/archive/sample owner-sample-archive: sample-owner sample-request: "|/bbs/majordomo/wrapper request-answer sample" owner-sample-request: sample-owner Any assistance as to where I am going wrong would be greatly appreciated. Thanks, and have a nice day ...Steve ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Systems Knowledge Link SKL Enterprises Dealers/Consultants in Computer Software Equipment Internet Services WWW Pages Remote Services Steve Linn E-Mail: slinn@skl.com http://www.skl.com From majordomo-users-owner Sat Nov 4 15:53:59 1995 Received: (majordom@localhost) by miles.greatcircle.com (8.7.1/Miles-950430-1) id PAA15867 for majordomo-users-outgoing; Sat, 4 Nov 1995 15:46:45 -0800 (PST) Received: from rainbow-jr.dreaming.org (rainbow-jr.dreaming.org [199.166.238.138]) by miles.greatcircle.com (8.7.1/Miles-950430-1) with ESMTP id PAA15860 for ; Sat, 4 Nov 1995 15:46:40 -0800 (PST) Received: (from scrappy@localhost) by rainbow-jr.dreaming.org (8.7.1/8.7.1) id SAA12004; Sat, 4 Nov 1995 18:45:13 -0500 (EST) Date: Sat, 4 Nov 1995 18:44:48 -0500 (EST) From: "Marc G. Fournier" X-Sender: scrappy@rainbow-jr.dreaming.org To: Majordomo-Users@Greatcircle.COM Subject: Majordomo 1.93: Problem with Moderated Lists Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk Hi.. I've setup Majordomo 1.93, and have most of the features running on it, except one...Moderated lists. When I try and turn on Moderation, and send email out through it, the headers seem to get all mangled, with no subject showing up or anything, as if it is screwing up how it is rewritting the message. I'm not one for Perl, and have looked at just about everything I can think of, with no success. In case it makes any difference, which I doubt it does, but... I'm running under FreeBSD 2.0.5R... Either pointers as to where to look for the problem, or a patch fix if it is a known problem, would be nice... Thanks... Marc G. Fournier | Knowledge, Information and Communications, Inc (ki.net) scrappy@hub.org | soon to be: | scrappy@ki.net | For more information, send me email. From majordomo-users-owner Sat Nov 4 16:22:56 1995 Received: (majordom@localhost) by miles.greatcircle.com (8.7.1/Miles-950430-1) id QAA16838 for majordomo-users-outgoing; Sat, 4 Nov 1995 16:08:45 -0800 (PST) Received: from kryten.atinc.com (kryten.Atinc.COM [198.138.38.7]) by miles.greatcircle.com (8.7.1/Miles-950430-1) with SMTP id QAA16825 for ; Sat, 4 Nov 1995 16:08:39 -0800 (PST) Received: (jmb@localhost) by kryten.atinc.com (8.6.9/8.3) id SAA02998; Sat, 4 Nov 1995 18:54:37 -0500 Date: Sat, 4 Nov 1995 18:54:36 -0500 (EST) From: "Jonathan M. Bresler" Subject: Re: Majordomo problem: FAQ pointer or help... To: "Marc G. Fournier" cc: questions@freebsd.org, Majordomo-Users@GreatCircle.COM In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk On Sat, 4 Nov 1995, Marc G. Fournier wrote: > The problem is that majordomo doesn't seem to work under > FreeBSD... you are using it now ;) FreeBSD.org is freefall.cdrom.com. the freebsd mailing lists are majordomo mailing lists. ;)) > When I first installed it (v1.93), I made the mistake > of compiling wrapper to be 'non-POSIX', which means that when I > ran it, I was getting error messages back in email telling me > to recompile it. After recompiling, I'm getting absolutely > nothing. No error messages even being sent back to the sender > stating that something failed. i am using 1.92 with the usual fixes (unlink's, sendmail invocations, ....) i understand that 1.93 has its share of problems (john rouillard please correct me if i am mistaken) > Now, my /etc/aliases entries, I think, are pretty > standard and brain dead. Not doing anything weird with it, > just straight subscribe and mail-out stuff... > > > #/etc/aliases, a piece of it > majordomo: "|/usr/local/lib/majordomo/wrapper majordomo" > owner-majordomo: scrappy > majordomo-owner: scrappy > # > # Info List > # > info: :include:/usr/local/mail/lists/info why not use 'resend' here. does your majordomo add and remove subscribers from this file? you are losing a lot of functionality here. Jonathan M. Bresler jmb@kryten.atinc.com | Analysis & Technology, Inc. FreeBSD Postmaster jmb@FreeBSD.Org | 2341 Jeff Davis Hwy play go. | Arlington, VA 22202 ride bike. hack FreeBSD.--ah the good life | 703-418-2800 x346 From majordomo-users-owner Sat Nov 4 16:52:58 1995 Received: (majordom@localhost) by miles.greatcircle.com (8.7.1/Miles-950430-1) id QAA17529 for majordomo-users-outgoing; Sat, 4 Nov 1995 16:28:05 -0800 (PST) Received: from rainbow-jr.dreaming.org (rainbow-jr.dreaming.org [199.166.238.138]) by miles.greatcircle.com (8.7.1/Miles-950430-1) with ESMTP id QAA17518 for ; Sat, 4 Nov 1995 16:27:59 -0800 (PST) Received: (from scrappy@localhost) by rainbow-jr.dreaming.org (8.7.1/8.7.1) id TAA12225; Sat, 4 Nov 1995 19:26:19 -0500 (EST) Date: Sat, 4 Nov 1995 19:26:17 -0500 (EST) From: "Marc G. Fournier" X-Sender: scrappy@rainbow-jr.dreaming.org To: "Jonathan M. Bresler" cc: questions@freebsd.org, Majordomo-Users@GreatCircle.COM Subject: Re: Majordomo problem: FAQ pointer or help... In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk On Sat, 4 Nov 1995, Jonathan M. Bresler wrote: > On Sat, 4 Nov 1995, Marc G. Fournier wrote: > > > The problem is that majordomo doesn't seem to work under > > FreeBSD... > > you are using it now ;) FreeBSD.org is freefall.cdrom.com. the > freebsd mailing lists are majordomo mailing lists. ;)) > Apologies...it turned out that the error was where sendmail is installed, and where majordomo thought it was installed :( I didn't figure it out until I tried to install 8.7.1 in /usr/lib, and there was no previous sendmail program there *sigh* And, of course, since majordomo couldn't find sendmail, it couldn't send me an email message... > > info: :include:/usr/local/mail/lists/info > > why not use 'resend' here. does your majordomo add and remove > subscribers from this file? you are losing a lot of functionality here. > I was trying to get bare-minimal going...now that it works, resend is back in there too :) Thanks... Marc G. Fournier | Knowledge, Information and Communications, Inc (ki.net) scrappy@hub.org | soon to be: | scrappy@ki.net | For more information, send me email. From majordomo-users-owner Sat Nov 4 18:22:56 1995 Received: (majordom@localhost) by miles.greatcircle.com (8.7.1/Miles-950430-1) id SAA21170 for majordomo-users-outgoing; Sat, 4 Nov 1995 18:07:34 -0800 (PST) Received: from ciesin.org (mail.ciesin.org [160.39.8.11]) by miles.greatcircle.com (8.7.1/Miles-950430-1) with SMTP id SAA21163 for ; Sat, 4 Nov 1995 18:07:31 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail.ciesin.org by ciesin.org (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA08568; Sat, 4 Nov 95 21:10:04 EST Message-Id: <9511050210.AA08568@ciesin.org> To: majordomo-users@greatcircle.com Subject: starting digest? Date: Sat, 04 Nov 1995 21:10:03 -0500 From: Henk Meij Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk Not quite comprehending what's not working on our system. The 'index' command is working and returns a list of get-able files (one for each day). There is a digest-work/ directory and a archives/ and archives/-digest directory. The information in the .config file has been filled in: digest_archive = digest_issue = 1 digest_name = AGIS-L digest_rm_footer = digest_rm_fronter = digest_volume = 1 digest_work_dir = maxlength = 80000 When I issue the mkdigest command to manually make a digest I get the following error back: >>>> mkdigest agis-l agis-l-hmeij *** digest: failed errors follow No messages. Stopped ABORT No messages. Stopped at majordomo.pl line 213, <_GEN_0> line 1. Missing something here. -Henk From majordomo-users-owner Sun Nov 5 12:22:58 1995 Received: (majordom@localhost) by miles.greatcircle.com (8.7.1/Miles-950430-1) id MAA12710 for majordomo-users-outgoing; Sun, 5 Nov 1995 12:03:33 -0800 (PST) Received: from swan.automata.com (swan.automata.com [198.242.220.2]) by miles.greatcircle.com (8.7.1/Miles-950430-1) with SMTP id MAA12696 for ; Sun, 5 Nov 1995 12:03:29 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by swan.automata.com (8.6.11/8.6.11) id PAA11003 for ; Sun, 5 Nov 1995 15:03:37 -0500 Received: from automata.automata.com(192.9.200.30) by swan.automata.com via smap (V1.3) id sma011001; Sun Nov 5 15:03:17 1995 Received: by automata (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA08033; Sun, 5 Nov 95 15:03:15 EST Date: Sun, 5 Nov 1995 15:03:14 -0500 (EST) From: George Pearson To: majordomo-users@greatcircle.com Subject: advice wanted on moving a list Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk I need to move my list, "canals", from one majordomo site to another. Ideally I'd like to do this with minimal impact on the list members and potential subscribers. Assuming the list is essentially "ready to roll" at the new site, I suppose the ideal scenario would be something like this: 1. Start queueing mail coming in to canals and canals-request (while permitting all other non-majordomo mail activity to continue, if possible). 2. Wait for all inprocess mail (messages and administrative) to have cleared out. The outbound mail queue is empty. 3. Switch the aliases of canals and canals-request to point to the new site. 4. Move the list, archive, and digest files to the new site. 5. Restart the incoming queued mail, which will now flow through the aliases to the new site. The problematic ones above are 1 and 5. (I realize these are really sendmail questions.) Can this be done? If not, is there another way to acheive my goal? Is there anything I've overlooked? (The mail configuration at the current site seems to run smapd, with smap kicked off by inetd. I think sendmail runs on a cron.) - george (george@automata.com) From majordomo-users-owner Sun Nov 5 13:53:07 1995 Received: (majordom@localhost) by miles.greatcircle.com (8.7.1/Miles-950430-1) id NAA14527 for majordomo-users-outgoing; Sun, 5 Nov 1995 13:25:20 -0800 (PST) Received: from phoenix.net (phoenix.phoenix.net [199.3.232.2]) by miles.greatcircle.com (8.7.1/Miles-950430-1) with SMTP id NAA14520 for ; Sun, 5 Nov 1995 13:25:17 -0800 (PST) Received: from spiralnet.phoenix.net ([199.3.234.29]) by phoenix.net (8.6.10/8.6.6) with SMTP id PAA01754 for ; Sun, 5 Nov 1995 15:25:17 -0600 Message-Id: <199511052125.PAA01754@phoenix.net> Comments: Authenticated sender is From: "Siberia" Organization: SpiralNet Technologies, Inc. To: majordomo-users@greatcircle.com Date: Sun, 5 Nov 1995 15:25:46 -0600 Subject: Disabling the who command Reply-to: klong@phoenix.net Priority: normal X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (v2.10) Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk I have checked the FAQ and cannot find the answer to my question of how to disable the who command in majordomo. Does anyone know how this can be done? Thanks in advance! Namaste' Kimberly Long klong@phoenix.net Nothing is more dangerous than an idea, when it's the only one we have. Emile Auguste Chartier )O( From majordomo-users-owner Mon Nov 6 07:57:28 1995 Received: (majordom@localhost) by miles.greatcircle.com (8.7.1/Miles-950430-1) id HAA14158 for majordomo-users-outgoing; Mon, 6 Nov 1995 07:45:52 -0800 (PST) Received: from ipas3 (ipas3.afip.mil [192.239.86.2]) by miles.greatcircle.com (8.7.1/Miles-950430-1) with SMTP id HAA14151 for ; Mon, 6 Nov 1995 07:45:49 -0800 (PST) Received: by ipas3 (4.1/($Id: sendmail.cf,v 1.17 1991/02/11 14:07:23 jmalcolm Exp $)) id AA09596; Mon, 6 Nov 95 11:48:28 EST Date: Mon, 6 Nov 95 11:48:28 EST From: sweeney@ipas3.afip.mil (Nina Sweeney) Message-Id: <9511061648.AA09596@ipas3> To: majordomo-users@greatcircle.com Subject: Double dose of majordomo messages Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk We recently resurrected majordomo on our ancient Sun SparcServer 390 after a major system failure. It seems to be working ok, except for one thing: whenever a subscriber posts a message to our mailing list (pathnet), two messages get sent out, one of which always has "Apparently To:" in the header. & 8 Message 8: From owner-pathnet@ipas.afip.mil Mon Nov 6 10:46:16 1995 Date: Mon, 6 Nov 95 09:21:48 EST From: sweeney@ipas.afip.mil (Nina Sweeney) Apparently-To: pathnet@ipas.afip.mil Sender: owner-pathnet@ipas.afip.mil Precedence: bulk & 9 Message 9: From owner-pathnet@ipas.afip.mil Mon Nov 6 10:46:20 1995 Date: Mon, 6 Nov 95 09:18:40 EST From: sweeney@ipas.afip.mil (Nina Sweeney) To: pathnet@ipas.afip.mil Subject: test message Sender: owner-pathnet@ipas.afip.mil Precedence: bulk If anyone knows why this is happening, please pass it on. As always, thanks for your help. Sincerely, Nina Sweeney Armed Forces Institute of Pathology sweeney@afip.mil From majordomo-users-owner Mon Nov 6 08:24:28 1995 Received: (majordom@localhost) by miles.greatcircle.com (8.7.1/Miles-950430-1) id HAA14284 for majordomo-users-outgoing; Mon, 6 Nov 1995 07:56:29 -0800 (PST) Received: from titan.aa.hcia.com (titan.aa.hcia.com [157.199.5.33]) by miles.greatcircle.com (8.7.1/Miles-950430-1) with SMTP id HAA14275 for ; Mon, 6 Nov 1995 07:56:23 -0800 (PST) Received: by titan.aa.hcia.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #9) id m0tCTr7-000iWGC; Mon, 6 Nov 95 10:53 EST Message-Id: Date: Mon, 6 Nov 95 10:53 EST From: dtosh@hcia.com (Dan Toshach) To: Majordomo-Users@GreatCircle.com Subject: Majordomo Question/Problem X-Sun-Charset: US-ASCII Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk I reciently upgraded my os from SunOS 4.1.3 (BSD based) to Solaris 2.3 (sVr4 based). This was done by bringing up a new machine on Solaris 2.3 then migrating the application over from the 4.1.3 machine to the 2.3 machine. When I recompiled majordomo and run it things seem to work, but it's not seeing the old lists. The $list variable in the majordomo.cf file is pointing to the correct directory, and the directory is owned by majordomo with permissions set to 777. Does anyone have any hints Thanks, Dan Toshach dtosh@hcia.com From majordomo-users-owner Mon Nov 6 08:25:45 1995 Received: (majordom@localhost) by miles.greatcircle.com (8.7.1/Miles-950430-1) id IAA14412 for majordomo-users-outgoing; Mon, 6 Nov 1995 08:04:21 -0800 (PST) Received: from gate.ei.educ.ab.ca (gate.ei.educ.ab.ca [142.60.100.100]) by miles.greatcircle.com (8.7.1/Miles-950430-1) with SMTP id IAA14405 for ; Mon, 6 Nov 1995 08:04:15 -0800 (PST) Received: by gate.ei.educ.ab.ca (5.65/DEC-Ultrix/4.3) id AA18750; Mon, 6 Nov 1995 09:04:15 -0700 Message-Id: Date: 6 Nov 1995 09:04:05 -0700 From: "Dave Wodelet" Subject: Perl v5.x and noadvertized lists To: "majordomo-users@greatcircle.com" X-Mailer: Mail*Link SMTP-PS 3.0.2 Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk This problem shows up when runing Majordomo v1.93 under perl v5.001m and a user sends it a "lists" command. I've found lists that have been set "noadvertise" (like this: /.*/ ) in the .config file can still show up in the results of "lists". Not all of them do -- it appears to be just the 1st one. Everything works ok under perl v4.036. Has anyone else had this problem and know of a fix for it. I've running it under Ultrix v4.3a -- maybe it's a bug with just that OS. ---------------- dave.wodelet@ei.educ.ab.ca From majordomo-users-owner Mon Nov 6 14:58:33 1995 Received: (majordom@localhost) by miles.greatcircle.com (8.7.1/Miles-950430-1) id OAA25937 for majordomo-users-outgoing; Mon, 6 Nov 1995 14:48:43 -0800 (PST) Received: from sun.online.ab.ca (sun.online.ab.ca [204.209.46.1]) by miles.greatcircle.com (8.7.1/Miles-950430-1) with SMTP id IAA14503 for ; Mon, 6 Nov 1995 08:15:15 -0800 (PST) Received: from [204.209.46.21] (zeebee.online.ab.ca [204.209.46.21]) by sun.online.ab.ca (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id JAA22584; Mon, 6 Nov 1995 09:23:02 -0700 X-Sender: zindelak@sun.online.ab.ca Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Mon, 6 Nov 1995 09:20:34 -0800 To: Steve Linn From: zindelak@online.ab.ca (Zbigniew Indelak) Subject: Re: Archive Problem Cc: "'majordomo-users@greatcircle.com'" Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk At 10:47 AM 11/4/95, Steve Linn wrote: >I have successfully managed to install Majordomo. I have created >a "sample" list that I can "[un] subscribe" to. I can distribute >the mail amongst the users of the list. > >However, no matter how much I try, I cannot get the Archive >process to work. I have read and re-read the docs and tried >the samples but it keeps failing with the following errors: > >Message delivered to mailing list sample-archive >Message delivered to mailing list sample-outgoing >/bbs/majordomo/archive/sample: line 0: /bbs/majordomo/archive/sample... >cannot open: Permission denied >554 /bbs/majordomo/archive/sample: line 0: >/bbs/majordomo/archive/sample... cannot open: Permission denied >550 /bbs/majordomo/archive/sample... Can't create output: Error 0 > >I have set the directory permissions to 775 and the file >permissions to 664 per the documentation. > >The Aliases file is as follows: > ># ># Sample Mailing List ># >owner-sample: sample-owner >sample: "|/bbs/majordomo/wrapper resend -p bulk -M 10000 -l sample >Sample-Owner -h mail.skl.com -s sample-outgoing" >sample-owner: slinn >sample-approval: sample-owner >sample-outgoing: :include:/bbs/majordomo/lists/sample, sample-archive >owner-sample-outgoing: sample-owner >sample-archive: /bbs/majordomo/archive/sample >owner-sample-archive: sample-owner >sample-request: "|/bbs/majordomo/wrapper request-answer sample" >owner-sample-request: sample-owner > >Any assistance as to where I am going wrong would be greatly >appreciated. > >Thanks, and have a nice day ...Steve >--------------------------------------------------------------------------- >---- > Systems Knowledge Link > SKL Enterprises > > Dealers/Consultants in Computer Software Equipment > Internet Services WWW Pages Remote Services > >Steve Linn E-Mail: slinn@skl.com http://www.skl.com Make sure that /bbs/majordomo/archive/sample is a file open for writing for the owner of majordomo. Zbigniew Indelak (ZeeBee) | e-mail: zindelak@online.ab.ca Systems Analyst | zindelak@olcorp.com Network Administrator | zindelak@bol.net Online Internet Services Corp. | http://www.olcorp.com From majordomo-users-owner Mon Nov 6 16:53:35 1995 Received: (majordom@localhost) by miles.greatcircle.com (8.7.1/Miles-950430-1) id QAA28212 for majordomo-users-outgoing; Mon, 6 Nov 1995 16:23:39 -0800 (PST) Received: from sun.online.ab.ca (sun.online.ab.ca [204.209.46.1]) by miles.greatcircle.com (8.7.1/Miles-950430-1) with SMTP id QAA28205 for ; Mon, 6 Nov 1995 16:23:32 -0800 (PST) Received: from [204.209.46.21] (zeebee.online.ab.ca [204.209.46.21]) by sun.online.ab.ca (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id RAA28084 for ; Mon, 6 Nov 1995 17:31:42 -0700 X-Sender: zindelak@sun.online.ab.ca Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Mon, 6 Nov 1995 17:29:06 -0800 To: majordomo-users@greatcircle.com From: zindelak@online.ab.ca (Zbigniew Indelak) Subject: archive and archive2.pl Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk I am not too terribly familiar with perl (as a matter of fact, I don't know anything about it :-)). I looked at the archive2.pl script that came with Majordomo 1.93 and it looks like a very useful tool. I setup my archive alias as specified in the archive2.pl script and (not to my surprise) I got a message saying that the archive file or directory does not exist. My aliases are: sample-archive: "| /var/majordomo/bin/wrapper archive -f sample -m -a" I have two questions: 1) How do I get archive2.pl to work? 2) Where can I get some type of explanation of what are possible parameters to wrapper? Docs? FAQs? man pages? Thanks a million for any replies. Zbigniew Indelak (ZeeBee) | e-mail: zindelak@online.ab.ca Systems Analyst | zindelak@olcorp.com Network Administrator | zindelak@bol.net Online Internet Services Corp. | http://www.olcorp.com From majordomo-users-owner Mon Nov 6 20:52:54 1995 Received: (majordom@localhost) by miles.greatcircle.com (8.7.1/Miles-950430-1) id UAA04486 for majordomo-users-outgoing; Mon, 6 Nov 1995 20:49:56 -0800 (PST) Received: from hyangdan.hit.co.kr (hyangdan.hit.co.kr [203.251.192.1]) by miles.greatcircle.com (8.7.1/Miles-950430-1) with SMTP id UAA04479 for ; Mon, 6 Nov 1995 20:49:48 -0800 (PST) Received: from windy ([203.251.197.112]) by hyangdan.hit.co.kr (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA03634; Tue, 7 Nov 95 13:47:04 KST Date: Tue, 7 Nov 95 13:47:01 KST Message-Id: <9511070447.AA03634@hyangdan.hit.co.kr> X-Sender: windy@hyangdan.hit.co.kr X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: Majordomo-Users@GreatCircle.com From: Kim SungIn Subject: majordomo setup ..? Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk Dear sir. How are you? I would like to build Mailing list. Would you let me know its installation method? I have it of version 1.93. And In the process of installation, listname, listname.passwd, listname.info files are made under the $listdir Directory in the "Creating New list" part. To subscriber these files, please announce with which contents and patterns. Thanks in advance for your help. --------------------------------------------------------- Name : Kim SungIn Company : Hyundai Information Technology Co., Ltd. E-mail : windy@hyangdan.hit.co.kr -------------------------------------------------------- From majordomo-users-owner Tue Nov 7 11:52:55 1995 Received: (majordom@localhost) by miles.greatcircle.com (8.7.1/Miles-950430-1) id LAA21826 for majordomo-users-outgoing; Tue, 7 Nov 1995 11:36:17 -0800 (PST) Received: from pooma.itw.com (pooma.itw.com [204.170.66.6]) by miles.greatcircle.com (8.7.1/Miles-950430-1) with SMTP id LAA21818 for ; Tue, 7 Nov 1995 11:36:13 -0800 (PST) Received: (from root@localhost) by pooma.itw.com (8.6.9/8.6.9) id PAA00405; Tue, 7 Nov 1995 15:44:28 -0500 Date: Tue, 7 Nov 1995 15:44:28 -0500 From: System Administrator Subject: Re: Welcome to majordomo-users To: majordomo-users@GreatCircle.COM In-Reply-To: <199511071518.HAA17777@miles.greatcircle.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk is there anyone on this list? BTW: is this the right place to ask questions about problems installing majordomo?? if not.. can anyone point me to the right place?? thanks a lot. From majordomo-users-owner Tue Nov 7 12:22:55 1995 Received: (majordom@localhost) by miles.greatcircle.com (8.7.1/Miles-950430-1) id MAA22900 for majordomo-users-outgoing; Tue, 7 Nov 1995 12:20:20 -0800 (PST) Received: from relay4.UU.NET (relay4.UU.NET [192.48.96.14]) by miles.greatcircle.com (8.7.1/Miles-950430-1) with ESMTP id MAA22891 for ; Tue, 7 Nov 1995 12:20:16 -0800 (PST) Received: from goggins.bath.ac.uk by relay4.UU.NET with ESMTP id QQzowf00951; Tue, 7 Nov 1995 15:20:04 -0500 (EST) Received: from tamarin.bath.ac.uk by goggins.bath.ac.uk with SMTP (PP); Tue, 7 Nov 1995 19:08:06 +0000 Received: from ukoln.bath.ac.uk by tamarin.bath.ac.uk with SMTP (PP); Tue, 7 Nov 1995 19:07:47 +0000 Date: Tue, 7 Nov 1995 19:07:46 +0000 (GMT) From: C P Brown To: majordomo-users@greatcircle.com Subject: archives, hypermail and mmdf ... Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk Hi I'm trying to get hypermail working on my archives but archive2.pl won't save files to a unix mail file (-u option fails), however the -a option works fine. I'm using majordomo version 1.93, perl version 5.000, mmdf II, and SunOS 4.1.3. Has anyone else ahd similar difficulties? Chris C P Brown, Network Systems Officer. | c.p.brown@bath.ac.uk UKOLN: The Office for Library and Information Networking,| vox: +44 1225 826450 University of Bath, Bath, BA2 7AY, UK. | fax: +44 1225 826838 From majordomo-users-owner Tue Nov 7 12:26:14 1995 Received: (majordom@localhost) by miles.greatcircle.com (8.7.1/Miles-950430-1) id LAA22281 for majordomo-users-outgoing; Tue, 7 Nov 1995 11:53:54 -0800 (PST) Received: from hydra.naz.edu (hydra.naz.edu [204.168.82.2]) by miles.greatcircle.com (8.7.1/Miles-950430-1) with SMTP id LAA22276 for ; Tue, 7 Nov 1995 11:53:51 -0800 (PST) Received: (from manaud@localhost) by hydra.naz.edu (8.6.12/8.6.12) id OAA20587; Tue, 7 Nov 1995 14:53:38 -0500 Date: Tue, 7 Nov 1995 14:53:37 -0500 (EST) From: "Michael A. Naud" To: majordomo-users@GreatCircle.COM Subject: what aliases do I need? Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk I just setup Majordomo 1.93 on my system. I'm having a liitle trouble with the required aliases. I have one for majordomo-owner, majordomo and the name of the list. I have an empty file called test (name of the list) and the test.info file and test.passwd files. When I try to send a message to majordomo@naz.edu with the text subscribe test I get back a message saying no such list. I can get back the general help info from majordomo, but that is all. I have these files in my listdir and thay have the right protection. Any clues? TIA, Michael Naud ---- Michael A. Naud Internet: manaud@naz.edu Internet Administrator Facsimile: 716.586.2452 Nazareth College, Rochester NY 14618 Voice: 716.586.2525 x827 From majordomo-users-owner Tue Nov 7 12:52:55 1995 Received: (majordom@localhost) by miles.greatcircle.com (8.7.1/Miles-950430-1) id MAA23121 for majordomo-users-outgoing; Tue, 7 Nov 1995 12:40:09 -0800 (PST) Received: from caracas.terraport.net (terraport.net [205.189.144.2]) by miles.greatcircle.com (8.7.1/Miles-950430-1) with SMTP id MAA23116 for ; Tue, 7 Nov 1995 12:40:06 -0800 (PST) Received: from westhill.skl.com (root@link.skl.com [205.233.242.254]) by caracas.terraport.net (8.6.12/8.6.12) with ESMTP id PAA10251; Tue, 7 Nov 1995 15:39:34 -0500 Received: from abacab (abacab.skl.com [205.233.242.127]) by westhill.skl.com (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id PAA12492; Tue, 7 Nov 1995 15:41:05 -0500 Received: by abacab with Microsoft Mail id <01BAAD27.0E476640@abacab>; Tue, 7 Nov 1995 15:38:16 -0500 Message-ID: <01BAAD27.0E476640@abacab> From: Steve Linn To: "majordomo-users@GreatCircle.COM" , "'System Administrator'" Subject: RE: Welcome to majordomo-users Date: Tue, 7 Nov 1995 15:38:14 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk This is the right place to ask questions about Majordomo. I just finished installing Majordomo on my Linux box, 1.2.8 and it runs great. Every bit as good as Listproc and Listserv I think. Steve ---------- From: System Administrator[SMTP:root@pooma.itw.com] Sent: Tuesday, November 07, 1995 3:44 PM To: majordomo-users@GreatCircle.COM Subject: Re: Welcome to majordomo-users is there anyone on this list? BTW: is this the right place to ask questions about problems installing majordomo?? if not.. can anyone point me to the right place?? thanks a lot. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Systems Knowledge Link SKL Enterprises Dealers/Consultants in Computer Software Equipment Internet Services WWW Pages Remote Services Steve Linn E-Mail: slinn@skl.com http://www.skl.com From majordomo-users-owner Tue Nov 7 15:52:56 1995 Received: (majordom@localhost) by miles.greatcircle.com (8.7.1/Miles-950430-1) id PAA27481 for majordomo-users-outgoing; Tue, 7 Nov 1995 15:34:19 -0800 (PST) Received: from pooma.itw.com (pooma.itw.com [204.170.66.6]) by miles.greatcircle.com (8.7.1/Miles-950430-1) with SMTP id PAA27461 for ; Tue, 7 Nov 1995 15:34:05 -0800 (PST) Received: (from root@localhost) by pooma.itw.com (8.6.9/8.6.9) id TAA00845; Tue, 7 Nov 1995 19:42:58 -0500 Date: Tue, 7 Nov 1995 19:42:58 -0500 From: System Administrator Subject: [HELP] problem installing on Linux... To: Majordomo-users list Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk I am trying to set up majordomo 1.93 to run on my Linux machine.. I'm running version 1.2.5 .. If I try to send a message to majordomo@pooma.itw.com I get this message on the mail (postmaster): ----- The following addresses had delivery problems ----- "|/usr/lib/majordomo/wrapper majordomo" (unrecoverable error) (expanded from: majordomo@pooma.itw.com) ----- Transcript of session follows ----- majordomo: No such file or directory 554 "|/usr/lib/majordomo/wrapper majordomo"... unknown mailer error 5 So far this is what I have done: 1. added a group majordom (group 16) 2. addedt the followin line to /etc/passwd: majordom:*:500:16:Majordomo:/usr/lib/majordomo: 3. untared the majordomo file under /usr/lib/majordomo 4. this is the /etc/majordomo.cf ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- $whereami = "pooma.itw.com"; $whoami = "majordomo@$whereami"; $whoami_owner = "majordomo-Owner@$whereami"; $homedir = "/usr/lib/majordomo"; $listdir = "/var/spool/majordomo/lists"; $digest_work_dir = "/var/spool/majordomo/digest"; $log = "/usr/adm/majordomo.log"; $mailer = "/usr/lib/sendmail -f\$sender -t"; $filedir = "/var/spool/majordomo/archive"; $filedir_suffix = ""; $index_command = "/bin/ls -lRL"; $return_subject = 1; $majordomo_request = 0; umask(007); @archive_dirs = ("/var/spool/majordomo/archive/test"); $analyze_slash_in_address = 0; $no_x400at=0; $no_true_x400=0; ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- 5. created the directories: pooma:/usr/spool/majordomo# dir total 3 drwxrwxr-x 3 majordom majordom 1024 Nov 7 00:31 archive/ drwxrwxr-x 3 majordom majordom 1024 Nov 7 00:31 digest/ drwxrwxr-x 2 majordom majordom 1024 Nov 7 00:33 lists/ 6. chown majordom.majordom /usr/lib/majordomo and I still get the error on the e-mail.. just in case I'm also going to include the /etc/aliases in case I have something wrong there also.. -------------------------------------------- # # majordomo aliases... # majordomo: "|/usr/lib/majordomo/wrapper majordomo" owner-majordomo: postmaster # test list owner-test: root test-owner: root test-approval: root owner-test-digest: owner-test test-digest-approval: test-approval test: "|/usr/lib/majordomo/wrapper resend -l test -h pooma.itw.com -s test-outgoing" test-digest: test owner-test-outgoing: owner-test test-outgoing: :include:/var/spool/majordomo/lists/test, "|/usr/lib/majordomo/wrapper digest -r -C -l test-digest test-digest-outgoing", test-archive owner-test-digest-outgoing: owner-test test-digest-outgoing: :include:/var/spool/majordomo/lists/test-digest owner-test-request: test-owner test-request: "|/usr/lib/majordomo/wrapper request-answer test" owner-test-archive: test-owner test-archive: "|/usr/lib/majordomo/wrapper archive -f /var/spool/majordomo/archive/test/test -m -a" ---------------------------------------------- any help would be appreciated. TIA Javier Iglesias From majordomo-users-owner Tue Nov 7 16:22:55 1995 Received: (majordom@localhost) by miles.greatcircle.com (8.7.1/Miles-950430-1) id PAA28289 for majordomo-users-outgoing; Tue, 7 Nov 1995 15:53:43 -0800 (PST) Received: from gate.ei.educ.ab.ca (gate.ei.educ.ab.ca [142.60.100.100]) by miles.greatcircle.com (8.7.1/Miles-950430-1) with SMTP id PAA28282 for ; Tue, 7 Nov 1995 15:53:39 -0800 (PST) Received: by gate.ei.educ.ab.ca (5.65/DEC-Ultrix/4.3) id AA29845; Tue, 7 Nov 1995 16:52:46 -0700 Message-Id: Date: 7 Nov 1995 16:52:32 -0700 From: "Dave Wodelet" Subject: Re: Perl v5.x and noadvertized lists To: "majordomo-users@greatcircle.com" X-Mailer: Mail*Link SMTP-PS 3.0.2 Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk Dave Wodelet Wrote: > > There is a problem when runing Majordomo v1.93 under perl v5.001m and a > user sends it a "lists" command. I've found lists that have been set > > "noadvertise" (like this: /.*/ ) > > in the .config file can still show up in the results of "lists". > > Everything works ok under perl v4.036. Has anyone else had this problem and > know of a fix for it. Well, since no one seemed to have a solution to this problem I looked into it further -- so let me answer my own mail... ...This bug in the majordomo can be fixed by editing the "majordomo" program and changing 'qq' to 'q' in the "do_lists" subroutine: (about line 884) change: $command = "(qq~$reply_addr~ =~ $i)"; to: $command = "(q~$reply_addr~ =~ $i)"; and (about line 894) change: $command = "(qq~$reply_addr~ =~ $i)"; to: $command = "(q~$reply_addr~ =~ $i)"; This edit will quote the "@" that can occur in the "$reply_addr" -- which is now required in perl v5.x but was not a problem in perl v4.x ------ While your at it you may also want to change the following lines in the same subroutine as well -- this edit will remove the trailing spaces at the end of each line output by the list command (for some unknown reason each line is padded with spaces out to 76 characters -- why send the extra bytes in a mail message when you don't have to!!). (about line 902, and line 905) change: printf REPLY " %-20s %-56s\n", $list, to: printf REPLY " %-20s %s\n", $list, --------- That's it. DOES ANYONE KNOW WHAT THE PROPER PROCEDURE IS FOR REPORTING THESE PROBLEMS??? Should I be sending this to the "Majordomo-Workers" list???? From majordomo-users-owner Tue Nov 7 17:22:57 1995 Received: (majordom@localhost) by miles.greatcircle.com (8.7.1/Miles-950430-1) id RAA01010 for majordomo-users-outgoing; Tue, 7 Nov 1995 17:01:11 -0800 (PST) Received: from caracas.terraport.net (caracas.terraport.net [205.189.144.2]) by miles.greatcircle.com (8.7.1/Miles-950430-1) with ESMTP id RAA00998 for ; Tue, 7 Nov 1995 17:01:01 -0800 (PST) Received: from westhill.skl.com (root@link.skl.com [205.233.242.254]) by caracas.terraport.net (8.7.1/8.7.1) with SMTP id UAA01431; Tue, 7 Nov 1995 20:00:56 -0500 Received: from abacab (abacab.skl.com [205.233.242.127]) by westhill.skl.com (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id UAA13131; Tue, 7 Nov 1995 20:02:28 -0500 Received: by abacab with Microsoft Mail id <01BAAD4B.8EB21D60@abacab>; Tue, 7 Nov 1995 19:59:33 -0500 Message-ID: <01BAAD4B.8EB21D60@abacab> From: Steve Linn To: "majordomo-users@GreatCircle.COM" , "'Michael A. Naud'" Subject: RE: what aliases do I need? Date: Tue, 7 Nov 1995 19:59:31 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="---- =_NextPart_000_01BAAD4B.8EB9BE80" Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk ------ =_NextPart_000_01BAAD4B.8EB9BE80 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit This sounds like you may not have all of the required aliases defined. I am including a portion of my aliases file for you. perhaps it will help. Steve ___________________________________________________________ I just setup Majordomo 1.93 on my system. I'm having a little trouble with the required aliases. I have one for majordomo-owner, majordomo and the name of the list. I have an empty file called test (name of the list) and the test.info file and test.passwd files. When I try to send a message to majordomo@naz.edu with the text subscribe test I get back a message saying no such list. I can get back the general help info from majordomo, but that is all. I have these files in my listdir and they have the right protection. Any clues? TIA, Michael Naud ---- Michael A. Naud Internet: manaud@naz.edu Internet Administrator Facsimile: 716.586.2452 Nazareth College, Rochester NY 14618 Voice: 716.586.2525 x827 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Systems Knowledge Link SKL Enterprises Dealers/Consultants in Computer Software Equipment Internet Services WWW Pages Remote Services Steve Linn E-Mail: slinn@skl.com http://www.skl.com ------ =_NextPart_000_01BAAD4B.8EB9BE80 Content-Type: text/plain; name="aliases.txt" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit # # @(#)aliases 8.2 (Berkeley) 3/5/94 # # Steve Linn - November 3, 1995 # Initial build in preparation for Majordomo # # Aliases in this file will NOT be expanded in the header from # Mail, but WILL be visible over networks or from /bin/mail. # # >>>>>>>>>> The program "newaliases" must be run after # >> NOTE >> this file is updated for any changes to # >>>>>>>>>> show through to sendmail. # # Basic system aliases -- these MUST be present. MAILER-DAEMON: postmaster owner-owner: postmaster postmaster: slinn # # Majordomo # majordomo: "|/bbs/majordomo/wrapper majordomo" majordom: owner-majordomo Majordomo-Owner: steve owner-majordomo: Majordomo-Owner # # Sample Mailing List # owner-sample: sample-owner sample: "|/bbs/majordomo/wrapper resend -p bulk -M 10000 -l sample -f Sample-Owner -h mail.skl.com -s sample-outgoing" sample-owner: slinn sample-approval: sample-owner sample-outgoing: :include:/bbs/majordomo/lists/sample, sample-archive owner-sample-outgoing: sample-owner sample-archive: /usr/local/archive/sample owner-sample-archive: sample-owner sample-request: "|/bbs/majordomo/wrapper majordomo -l sample" owner-sample-request: sample-owner ------ =_NextPart_000_01BAAD4B.8EB9BE80-- From majordomo-users-owner Tue Nov 7 20:22:55 1995 Received: (majordom@localhost) by miles.greatcircle.com (8.7.1/Miles-950430-1) id UAA07780 for majordomo-users-outgoing; Tue, 7 Nov 1995 20:21:07 -0800 (PST) Received: from village.ios.com (village.ios.com [198.4.75.49]) by miles.greatcircle.com (8.7.1/Miles-950430-1) with SMTP id UAA07775 for ; Tue, 7 Nov 1995 20:21:03 -0800 (PST) Received: (from brozen@localhost) by village.ios.com (8.6.11/8.6.9) id XAA29535; Tue, 7 Nov 1995 23:17:30 -0500 Date: Tue, 7 Nov 1995 23:17:30 -0500 (EST) From: Brock Rozen To: majordomo-users@greatcircle.com Subject: Finding how who is subscribed to a list Message-ID: X-http: //village.ios.com/~brozen MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk Hi, As a list manager (I manage a few lists for an organization which is running off of another system's majordomo) I would like to know: 1) who is subscribed to a list 2) how many people are subscribed to a list 3) how I can subscribe others 4) if a specific person is subscribed. Thanks, ------------------------------------------------------------------------- | Brock Rozen | InterNet Address: brozen@village.ios.com | | | CompuServe: 71614,240 | | | ImagiNation: 1304 | |----------From majordomo-users-owner Wed Nov 8 03:22:55 1995 Received: (majordom@localhost) by miles.greatcircle.com (8.7.1/Miles-950430-1) id CAA20625 for majordomo-users-outgoing; Wed, 8 Nov 1995 02:57:16 -0800 (PST) Received: from relay.cs.tcd.ie (relay.cs.tcd.ie [134.226.32.56]) by miles.greatcircle.com (8.7.1/Miles-950430-1) with SMTP id CAA20620 for ; Wed, 8 Nov 1995 02:57:11 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <199511081057.CAA20620@miles.greatcircle.com> Received: from cs.tcd.ie (actually relay.cs.tcd.ie) by relay.cs.tcd.ie with SMTP (PP); Wed, 8 Nov 1995 10:57:17 +0000 To: majordomo-users@greatcircle.com Subject: Setting up Majordomo 1.93 in conjunction with PP under IC-2.1v2 Date: Thu, 26 Oct 1995 12:36:27 +0100 From: Maire Jones Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk I am trying to set up Majordomo v 1.93 on a SparcServer 4 running Solaris 2.4. We are running PP as part of the Isode Consortium distribution IC-2.1v2. Instructions in the README show how to set up aliases in /etc/aliases, however PP sets up aliases differently. Just wondering if anyone has been down this road before and could point me in the right direction for setting up the aliases. Thanks in advance. -- , Maire Jones, e-mail: Maire.Jones@cs.tcd.ie Computer Science Department, phone: +353-1-608-1695 Trinity College, Dublin 2, Ireland. fax: +353-1-677-2204 From majordomo-users-owner Wed Nov 8 08:12:08 1995 Received: (majordom@localhost) by miles.greatcircle.com (8.7.1/Miles-950430-1) id HAA25495 for majordomo-users-outgoing; Wed, 8 Nov 1995 07:47:15 -0800 (PST) Received: from goggins.bath.ac.uk (goggins.bath.ac.uk [138.38.32.13]) by miles.greatcircle.com (8.7.1/Miles-950430-1) with ESMTP id HAA25490 for ; Wed, 8 Nov 1995 07:47:11 -0800 (PST) Received: from tamarin.bath.ac.uk by goggins.bath.ac.uk with SMTP (PP); Wed, 8 Nov 1995 15:17:42 +0000 Received: from ukoln.bath.ac.uk by tamarin.bath.ac.uk with SMTP (PP); Wed, 8 Nov 1995 15:16:48 +0000 Date: Wed, 8 Nov 1995 15:16:40 +0000 (GMT) From: C P Brown To: majordomo-users@greatcircle.com Subject: archives, hypermail and mmdf ... Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk Hi I'm trying to get hypermail working on my archives but archive2.pl won't save files to a unix mail file (-u option fails), however the -a option works fine. I'm using majordomo version 1.93, perl version 5.000, mmdf II, and SunOS 4.1.3. Has anyone else ahd similar difficulties? Chris C P Brown, Network Systems Officer. | c.p.brown@bath.ac.uk UKOLN: The Office for Library and Information Networking,| vox: +44 1225 826450 University of Bath, Bath, BA2 7AY, UK. | fax: +44 1225 826838 From majordomo-users-owner Wed Nov 8 11:59:12 1995 Received: (majordom@localhost) by miles.greatcircle.com (8.7.1/Miles-950430-1) id LAA00267 for majordomo-users-outgoing; Wed, 8 Nov 1995 11:52:08 -0800 (PST) Received: from connectnet1.connectnet.com (connectnet1.connectnet.com [204.252.0.50]) by miles.greatcircle.com (8.7.1/Miles-950430-1) with ESMTP id LAA00262 for ; Wed, 8 Nov 1995 11:52:05 -0800 (PST) Received: (uucp@localhost) by connectnet1.connectnet.com (8.7.1/CN-CONFIG-0.2) id LAA28653 for majordomo-users@greatcircle.com; Wed, 8 Nov 1995 11:52:11 -0800 (PST) >Received: by pino.connectnet.com (8.6.9/1.34) id LAA02511; Wed, 8 Nov 1995 11:15:29 -0800 Date: Wed, 8 Nov 1995 11:15:29 -0800 From: pino!alcocer@connectnet1.connectnet.com (Dario Alcocer) Message-Id: <199511081915.LAA02511@pino.connectnet.com> To: majordomo-users@greatcircle.com Subject: Tips on increasing mail throughput Content-Type: text Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk Does anyone have any ideas on decreasing the number of individual messages sent out when using sendmail via UUCP? Right now, I have the outgoing list alias expanding to an :include: list, and that generates one indiviual message per user. The problem is that I get one UUCP spool file per mailing list subscriber; one UUCP session is taking about 20 minutes for about 250 subscribers on a 14.4Kbps modem. Somehow, I think that what should happen is that one UUCP spool file should be created per mailing list message, and each message should have as recipients all the subscribers. Now, what I don't know is how to make sendmail create one UUCP spool file, or if even I can do that with sendmail. Maybe instead of using an :include: list, I'll need to perform delivery with some other program. Incidentlly, I've hear of something called 'bulkmail'. Can this be the answer to my problem? I'll look in the archives, but in the meantime, if anyone knows the answer, a short message with a pointer to more docs will suffice and will be greatly appreciated. -- Dario Alcocer alcocer@pino.connectnet.com From majordomo-users-owner Wed Nov 8 14:22:55 1995 Received: (majordom@localhost) by miles.greatcircle.com (8.7.1/Miles-950430-1) id OAA02820 for majordomo-users-outgoing; Wed, 8 Nov 1995 14:07:43 -0800 (PST) Received: from relay1.UU.NET (relay1.UU.NET [192.48.96.5]) by miles.greatcircle.com (8.7.1/Miles-950430-1) with ESMTP id OAA02815 for ; Wed, 8 Nov 1995 14:07:40 -0800 (PST) Received: from pooma.itw.com by relay1.UU.NET with SMTP id QQzozq05178; Wed, 8 Nov 1995 13:40:07 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by pooma.itw.com (8.6.9/8.6.9) id OAA01938; Wed, 8 Nov 1995 14:48:04 -0500 Date: Wed, 8 Nov 1995 14:48:03 -0500 From: System Administrator Subject: more problems with linux's installation.. To: Majordomo-users list Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: MULTIPART/MIXED; BOUNDARY="OAA01909.815859693/pooma.itw.com" Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk This message is in MIME format. The first part should be readable text, while the remaining parts are likely unreadable without MIME-aware tools. --OAA01909.815859693/pooma.itw.com Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII ----- The following addresses had delivery problems ----- "|/usr/local/majordomo/wrapper majordomo" (unrecoverable error) (expanded from: majordomo@pooma.itw.com) ----- Transcript of session follows ----- sh: /usr/local/majordomo/wrapper: Permission denied 554 "|/usr/local/majordomo/wrapper majordomo"... unknown mailer error 126 ----- Original message follows ----- But I have set /usr/local/majordomo with mod 775 and owned by majordom.majordom and also the same thing with wrapper it is owned by majordom.majordom and chmod 775 Any ideas?? are these the correct modes and permissions?? TIA! Javi --OAA01909.815859693/pooma.itw.com-- From majordomo-users-owner Wed Nov 8 15:22:55 1995 Received: (majordom@localhost) by miles.greatcircle.com (8.7.1/Miles-950430-1) id PAA03886 for majordomo-users-outgoing; Wed, 8 Nov 1995 15:14:11 -0800 (PST) Received: from music.luminaire.com (music.luminaire.com [205.246.11.95]) by miles.greatcircle.com (8.7.1/Miles-950430-1) with SMTP id PAA03881 for ; Wed, 8 Nov 1995 15:14:08 -0800 (PST) Received: (from root@localhost) by music.luminaire.com (8.6.12/8.6.12) id NAA01047 for majordomo-users@GreatCircle.com; Wed, 8 Nov 1995 13:06:16 -0500 Date: Wed, 8 Nov 1995 13:06:16 -0500 From: Po Chan (Po) Message-Id: <199511081806.NAA01047@music.luminaire.com> To: majordomo-users@GreatCircle.com Subject: mailing list files Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk /usr/local/mail/lists mod 775 in this directory, I created two empty files: listname and listname.passwd and I also created listname.info text file. Is these how to setup mailing list files? I had made all entries to my aliases file. -po From majordomo-users-owner Wed Nov 8 21:22:57 1995 Received: (majordom@localhost) by miles.greatcircle.com (8.7.1/Miles-950430-1) id VAA15600 for majordomo-users-outgoing; Wed, 8 Nov 1995 21:18:52 -0800 (PST) Received: from mercury.Sun.COM (mercury.Sun.COM [192.9.25.1]) by miles.greatcircle.com (8.7.1/Miles-950430-1) with SMTP id OAA25101 for ; Mon, 6 Nov 1995 14:18:51 -0800 (PST) Received: from Eng.Sun.COM by mercury.Sun.COM (Sun.COM) id OAA03027; Mon, 6 Nov 1995 14:18:57 -0800 Received: from mrbear.eng.sun.com (luuworld.Eng.Sun.COM) by Eng.Sun.COM (5.x/SMI-5.3) id AA01413; Mon, 6 Nov 1995 14:18:53 -0800 Received: by mrbear.eng.sun.com (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id OAA03921; Mon, 6 Nov 1995 14:18:51 -0800 Date: Mon, 6 Nov 1995 14:18:51 -0800 From: svazquez@mrbear.Eng.Sun.COM (Stephen Vazquez) Message-Id: <199511062218.OAA03921@mrbear.eng.sun.com> Subject: Cant find subroutine To: majordomo-users@greatcircle.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Md5: tCZ9qIdiRbMPW4gc+b/vRw== Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk When I try to unsubscribe from a group, I get the following error: Undefined subroutine "main'Unlink" called at /export/home1/majordomo/majordomo-cmds.pl line 128, line 78. 554 "|/export/home1/majordomo/wrapper majordomo"... unknown mailer error 3 If I remove the lists/.old file and resubmit the request, i get unsubscribed. But minutes later the .old file is there again and it fails. Does anyone know why the main'Unlink command can't be found? -steve From majordomo-users-owner Wed Nov 8 21:39:34 1995 Received: (majordom@localhost) by miles.greatcircle.com (8.7.1/Miles-950430-1) id VAA15630 for majordomo-users-outgoing; Wed, 8 Nov 1995 21:19:18 -0800 (PST) Received: from spock.dis.cccd.edu (spock.dis.cccd.edu [159.115.1.5]) by miles.greatcircle.com (8.7.1/Miles-950430-1) with ESMTP id QAA27966 for ; Mon, 6 Nov 1995 16:13:07 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <199511070013.QAA27966@miles.greatcircle.com> Received: by spock.dis.cccd.edu (1.37.109.16/16.2) id AA176113196; Mon, 6 Nov 1995 16:13:16 -0800 Subject: Hostile X.400 addresses To: majordomo-users@greatcircle.com Date: Mon, 6 Nov 1995 16:13:15 -0800 (PST) From: "Mark Bixby" Reply-To: markb@cccd.edu X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk Majordomo 1.93 didn't like the X.400 address (I assume that's what this is) of somebody that tried to subscribe to one of my mailing lists. I've looked at the code in majordomo.pl and I see where it's doing the "hostile" checks. But I don't know enough about X.400 to know how liberal this checking should be to allow addresses like the one below. Have any X.400 sites patched this code with better pattern checks? majordomo@cccd.edu writes: > MAJORDOMO ABORT > > HOSTILE ADDRESS /S=J.PASINATO/OU1=R05F07A@mhs-fsbo.attmail.com -- Mark Bixby E-mail: markb@cccd.edu Coast Community College Dist. Web: http://www.cccd.edu/~markb/ District Information Services 1370 Adams Ave., Costa Mesa, CA, USA 92626-5429 Technical Support +1 714 432-5865 x7064 "You can tune a file system, but you can't tune a fish." - tunefs(1M) From majordomo-users-owner Thu Nov 9 09:23:13 1995 Received: (majordom@localhost) by miles.greatcircle.com (8.7.1/Miles-950430-1) id IAA15742 for majordomo-users-outgoing; Thu, 9 Nov 1995 08:55:12 -0800 (PST) Received: from tortola.usgcc.odu.edu (tortola.usgcc.odu.edu [128.82.48.91]) by miles.greatcircle.com (8.7.1/Miles-950430-1) with SMTP id IAA15737 for ; Thu, 9 Nov 1995 08:55:09 -0800 (PST) Received: (from tim@localhost) by tortola.usgcc.odu.edu (8.6.8/8.6.6.Beta9) id LAA05480; Thu, 9 Nov 1995 11:56:30 -0500 Date: Thu, 9 Nov 1995 11:56:27 -0500 (EST) From: "Timothy M. Hughes" To: majordomo-users@GreatCircle.Com Subject: testing Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk I have installed majordomo on a sunos 4.1.3 machine and having a problem with the wrapper being available to sendmail programs. Here is the error I am getting: majordomo... aliased to |"/usr/local/majordomo-1.93/wrappers/majordom/wrapper majordomo" |"/usr/local/majordomo-1.93/wrappers/majordom/wrapper majordomo"... Connecting to prog... sh: wrapper not available for sendmail programs |"/usr/local/majordomo-1.93/wrappers/majordom/wrapper majordomo"... Service unavailable majordomo-owner... aliased to tim /home/tim/.forward: line 1: forwarding to tim@tortola.usgcc.odu.edu tim@tortola.usgcc.odu.edu... Connecting to tortola.usgcc.odu.edu. via smtp... 220-tortola.usgcc.odu.edu Sendmail 8.6.8/8.6.6.Beta9 ready at Thu, 9 Nov 1995 11:49:24 -0500 220 ESMTP spoken here >>> EHLO maui.cc.odu.edu 250-tortola.usgcc.odu.edu Hello maui.cc.odu.edu, pleased to meet you 250-EXPN 250-SIZE 250 HELP >>> MAIL From:<> SIZE=105 250 <>... Sender ok >>> RCPT To: 250 ... Recipient ok >>> DATA 354 Enter mail, end with "." on a line by itself >>> . 250 LAA05419 Message accepted for delivery tim@tortola.usgcc.odu.edu... Sent (LAA05419 Message accepted for delivery) MAILER-DAEMON... Closing connection to tortola.usgcc.odu.edu. >>> QUIT 221 tortola.usgcc.odu.edu closing connection The permissions are set correctly (I believe) and the config file knows where to look for the wrapper. Any Ideas?? Thanks! Tim From majordomo-users-owner Thu Nov 9 09:53:13 1995 Received: (majordom@localhost) by miles.greatcircle.com (8.7.1/Miles-950430-1) id JAA16959 for majordomo-users-outgoing; Thu, 9 Nov 1995 09:42:53 -0800 (PST) Received: from atlantis.InternetOne.COM (atlantis.InternetOne.COM [198.242.116.41]) by miles.greatcircle.com (8.7.1/Miles-950430-1) with SMTP id JAA16954 for ; Thu, 9 Nov 1995 09:42:50 -0800 (PST) Received: (from matt@localhost) by atlantis.InternetOne.COM (8.6.12/8.6.10) id KAA07407 for majordomo-users@GreatCircle.COM; Thu, 9 Nov 1995 10:43:03 -0700 From: Matt Leonard Message-Id: <199511091743.KAA07407@atlantis.InternetOne.COM> Subject: path to "mail" in approve script To: majordomo-users@GreatCircle.COM Date: Thu, 9 Nov 1995 10:43:03 -0700 (MST) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk I just installed 1.93 on a sun running 4.1.3. I created a moderated list, so messages required "approve" to be posted. Unfortunately, every time I ran approve, I got this error: queuename: Cannot create "qfKAA03493" in "/var/spool/mqueue" (euid=XX): Permission denied It turned out that although the first usage of mail in approve was as "/usr/ucb/mail" (for approving subscriptions), the second usage for articles just tried to open "mail", which was the wrong mail on my box. Adding the full path to mail on line 196 of approve fixed the problem: vvvvvvvvv vvvvvvvv open(MAIL, "| /usr/ucb/mail -s \"\" $post_to") || die("open(\"| /usr/ucb /mail ...\"): $!"); Just thought I'd put this out in case anyone else had this problem. Matt -- Matt Leonard http://www.internetone.com 303-444-1993 matt@InternetOne.com Personal: http://stripe.colorado.edu/~leonarm From majordomo-users-owner Thu Nov 9 13:23:13 1995 Received: (majordom@localhost) by miles.greatcircle.com (8.7.1/Miles-950430-1) id NAA22302 for majordomo-users-outgoing; Thu, 9 Nov 1995 13:14:48 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail02.mail.aol.com (mail02.mail.aol.com [152.163.172.66]) by miles.greatcircle.com (8.7.1/Miles-950430-1) with SMTP id NAA22297 for ; Thu, 9 Nov 1995 13:14:43 -0800 (PST) From: Chefgaryh@aol.com Received: by mail02.mail.aol.com (8.6.12/8.6.12) id QAA15277 for majordomo-users@greatcircle.com; Thu, 9 Nov 1995 16:14:49 -0500 Date: Thu, 9 Nov 1995 16:14:49 -0500 Message-ID: <951109161435_17651711@mail02.mail.aol.com> To: majordomo-users@greatcircle.com Subject: Problem with headers/msgs. Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk We are running Majordomo v. 1.92 on a list w/ about 1000 subscribers and have run into a problem: Some list members are reporting the the messages arrive "blank." Only recently we found that mail readers that hide the headers on Internet mail were including the text of the message when obscuring the header. So, in reality, the messages were not arriving "blank" but only hidden. The odd thing about this problem is that some subscribers do not have this problem with other majordomo lists. What have we done wrong in the set-up? Any help greatly appreciated! Gary Holleman From majordomo-users-owner Thu Nov 9 14:23:13 1995 Received: (majordom@localhost) by miles.greatcircle.com (8.7.1/Miles-950430-1) id NAA23321 for majordomo-users-outgoing; Thu, 9 Nov 1995 13:59:41 -0800 (PST) Received: from web.ce.utk.edu (WEB.CE.UTK.EDU [128.169.72.101]) by miles.greatcircle.com (8.7.1/Miles-950430-1) with SMTP id NAA23301 for ; Thu, 9 Nov 1995 13:59:33 -0800 (PST) Received: by web.ce.utk.edu (5.x/2.8s-UTK.UTCC) id AA11854; Thu, 9 Nov 1995 16:59:42 -0500 Date: Thu, 9 Nov 1995 16:59:42 -0500 From: James Perry - System Admin Message-Id: <9511092159.AA11854@web.ce.utk.edu> Content-Type: text Apparently-To: majordomo-users@greatcircle.com Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk I am have problems with the perl script in majordomo. I get an error at line 229 when I do the recommended testing on a list I have set up. Here is the whole sequence that I am doing and the errors I am getting. Can anyone give me a hand here. I also have some general usage-how to questions. %echo help | /usr/lib/sendmail -v list1-request list1-request... aliased to "|/u1/mailman/majordomo/wrapper request-answer list1" "|/u1/mailman/majordomo/wrapper request-answer list1"... Connecting to via prog... Undefined subroutine &main::lopen called at /u1/mailman/majordomo/majordomo.pl line 229, line 1. "|/u1/mailman/majordomo/wrapper request-answer list1"... Sent After this is done, I get no mail and sendmail logs and syslogs show that themail was sent Thanks Jperry@web.ce.utk.edu From majordomo-users-owner Fri Nov 10 08:53:14 1995 Received: (majordom@localhost) by miles.greatcircle.com (8.7.1/Miles-950430-1) id IAA28906 for majordomo-users-outgoing; Fri, 10 Nov 1995 08:47:12 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail06.mail.aol.com (mail06.mail.aol.com [152.163.172.108]) by miles.greatcircle.com (8.7.1/Miles-950430-1) with SMTP id IAA28892 for ; Fri, 10 Nov 1995 08:47:08 -0800 (PST) From: Phoebe7@aol.com Received: by mail06.mail.aol.com (8.6.12/8.6.12) id LAA13143 for Majordomo-users@greatcircle.com; Fri, 10 Nov 1995 11:47:23 -0500 Date: Fri, 10 Nov 1995 11:47:23 -0500 Message-ID: <951110114723_103116288@mail06.mail.aol.com> To: Majordomo-users@greatcircle.com Subject: How to restrict the who command Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk Is there a way to restrict the who command to work only for a select few people on a majordomo list? Of 500+ people on the list, I need to make the list available to only a few; the private_who command only restricts the who command to all 500+ people. Any way to restrict to a specified subset of the list? From majordomo-users-owner Fri Nov 10 09:53:15 1995 Received: (majordom@localhost) by miles.greatcircle.com (8.7.1/Miles-950430-1) id JAA29913 for majordomo-users-outgoing; Fri, 10 Nov 1995 09:24:46 -0800 (PST) Received: from europe.std.com (europe.std.com [192.74.137.10]) by miles.greatcircle.com (8.7.1/Miles-950430-1) with SMTP id JAA29899 for ; Fri, 10 Nov 1995 09:24:36 -0800 (PST) Received: from world.std.com by europe.std.com (8.6.12/Spike-8-1.0) id MAA20545; Fri, 10 Nov 1995 12:24:50 -0500 Received: by world.std.com (5.65c/Spike-2.0) id AA23800; Fri, 10 Nov 1995 12:24:49 -0500 Message-Id: <199511101724.AA23800@world.std.com> To: Phoebe7@aol.com Cc: Majordomo-users@greatcircle.com Subject: Re: How to restrict the who command In-Reply-To: Your message of "Fri, 10 Nov 1995 11:47:23 EST." <951110114723_103116288@mail06.mail.aol.com> Date: Fri, 10 Nov 1995 12:24:48 -0500 From: Elizabeth Lear Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk >Is there a way to restrict the who command to work only for a select few >people on a majordomo list? > >Of 500+ people on the list, I need to make the list available to only a few; >the private_who command only restricts the who command to all 500+ people. > Any way to restrict to a specified subset of the list? Looks like you need Spider's 'anon' patch. Then anyone with the list password can do a 'who', but no one else can. ...eliz Date: Wed, 16 Nov 1994 23:48:37 -0500 From: Spider Boardman I've seen a number of such requests come and go on this list, so here's what I did. I added two new config options, "anon_who" and "anon_which". Their purpose is to implement per-list privacy options. Even list members can't do a "who list" if "anon_who" is set, and "which other-address" commands skip lists with "anon_which" set. In order that the list owner can still see who's subscribed, I also made it possible to approve a who request. This part is not clean, since the existing "approve" code wants more arguments than a "who" command normally needs. Thus, you wind up needing to do "approve PASSWORD who LIST ." or somesuch to get the desired result. It's that wart on this that has kept me from posting this earlier. Anyway, appended are the relevant sections of diffs for my setup. Your line numbers will almost certainly vary, since I have other changes besides. --spider -- Spider Boardman spider@orb.nashua.nh.us speaking only for myself ...!decvax!orb!spider ------- =_aaaaaaaaaa0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-ID: <350.785047715.2@orb.nashua.nh.us> Content-Description: diffs for anon_which and anon_who *** /local/src/majordomo-1.92/config_parse.pl.ORIG Mon May 9 14:34:06 1994 --- /local/src/majordomo-1.92/config_parse.pl Fri Oct 14 02:25:37 1994 *************** *** 77,82 **** --- 78,85 ---- # otherwise the value is the default value for the keyword. # if the value starts with #!, the rest of the value is eval'ed %known_keys = ( + 'anon_who', 'no', # anonymous list disallowing who + 'anon_which', 'no', # anonymous list disallowing which other 'private_get', 'yes', # must be on list to use get 'private_index', 'no', # must be on list to use index 'private_who', 'no', # must be on list to use who *************** *** 157,162 **** --- 162,173 ---- "If set to yes, then the requestor must be on the mailing list to use the info command.", + 'anon_who', + "If set to yes, then 'who ' commands will not be allowed.", + + 'anon_which', + "If set to yes, then 'which ' commands will skip this list.", + 'advertise', "If the requestor email address matches one of these regexps, then the list will be listed *************** *** 340,345 **** --- 359,366 ---- 'private_info', 'majordomo', 'private_who', 'majordomo', 'private_which', 'majordomo', + 'anon_which', 'majordomo', + 'anon_who', 'majordomo', 'advertise', 'majordomo', 'noadvertise', 'majordomo', 'description', 'majordomo', *************** *** 386,391 **** --- 409,416 ---- 'private_info', 'grab_bool', 'private_who', 'grab_bool', 'private_which', 'grab_bool', + 'anon_which', 'grab_bool', + 'anon_who', 'grab_bool', 'advertise', 'grab_regexp_array', 'noadvertise', 'grab_regexp_array', 'description', 'grab_string', *************** *** 609,614 **** --- 636,645 ---- sub handle_flag_files { local($listdir, $list) = @_; + if ( -e "$listdir/$list.anon") { + $main'config_opts{$list,"anon_which"} = 1; + $main'config_opts{$list,"anon_who"} = 1; } + if ( -e "$listdir/$list.private") { $main'config_opts{$list,"private_get"} = 1; $main'config_opts{$list,"private_index"} = 1; *************** *** 928,934 **** sub grab_float { local($num)=@_; ! return($num) if $num =~ /^[0-9][0-9]*\.[0-9]+$/; return($num) if $num =~ /^$/; push(@errors, "$num is not a floating point number at line $.\n"); return ""; --- 959,965 ---- sub grab_float { local($num)=@_; ! return($num) if $num =~ /^\d+(\.\d+)?$|^\.\d+$/; return($num) if $num =~ /^$/; push(@errors, "$num is not a floating point number at line $.\n"); return ""; *************** *** 944,950 **** "integer |$num| contains a ^A at line $.\n"), next if $re =~ /\001/; ! push(@return_array, $num) if $num =~ /^[1-9][0-9]*\.[0-9]+$/; push(@return_array, $num) if $num =~ /^$/; push(@local_errors, "$num is not an floating point number at line $.\n"); --- 975,981 ---- "integer |$num| contains a ^A at line $.\n"), next if $re =~ /\001/; ! push(@return_array, $num) if $num =~ /^\d+(\.\d+)?$|^\.\d+$/; push(@return_array, $num) if $num =~ /^$/; push(@local_errors, "$num is not an floating point number at line $.\n"); *** /local/src/majordomo-1.92/majordomo.ORIG Sun May 8 17:07:37 1994 --- /local/src/majordomo-1.92/majordomo Sun Sep 25 02:34:32 1994 *************** *** 379,384 **** --- 379,387 ---- } elsif ($cmd eq "unsubscribe") { &log("approve PASSWORD unsubscribe $clean_list $subscriber"); &do_unsubscribe($clean_list, $subscriber); + } elsif ($cmd eq "who") { + &log("approve PASSWORD who $clean_list"); + &do_who($clean_list); } else { # you can only approve "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" &squawk("approve: invalid command '$cmd'"); *************** *** 454,460 **** --- 457,473 ---- # get configuration info &get_config($listdir, $_) if !&cf_ck_bool($_, '', 1); + if ( &cf_ck_bool($list,"anon_which") + && ! $approved + && (! &is_list_member($reply_to, $listdir, $list)) + && (! &addr_match($reply_to, $subscriber, + (&cf_ck_bool($clean_list,"mungedomain") + ? 2 : undef)))) { + # skip anonymous lists if requestor isn't a member or is snooping + # on someone else + next; + } if ( &cf_ck_bool($list,"private_which") && (! &is_list_member($reply_to, $listdir, $list))) { # skip private lists that the requestor isn't a member of next; *************** *** 503,509 **** --- 517,529 ---- &get_config($listdir, $clean_list) if !&cf_ck_bool($clean_list, '', 1); + if ( &cf_ck_bool($clean_list,"anon_who") && ! $approved) { + print REPLY "**** List '$clean_list' is an anonymous list.\n"; + print REPLY "**** The 'who' command is not allowed for this list.\n" ; + return 0; + } if ( &cf_ck_bool($clean_list,"private_who") + && ! $approved && ! &is_list_member($reply_to, $listdir, $clean_list)) { print REPLY "**** List '$clean_list' is a private list.\n"; print REPLY "**** Only members of the list can do a 'who'.\n"; (end) From majordomo-users-owner Fri Nov 10 12:53:15 1995 Received: (majordom@localhost) by miles.greatcircle.com (8.7.1/Miles-950430-1) id MAA06003 for majordomo-users-outgoing; Fri, 10 Nov 1995 12:50:28 -0800 (PST) Received: from cicerone.uunet.ca (cicerone.uunet.ca [142.77.1.11]) by miles.greatcircle.com (8.7.1/Miles-950430-1) with ESMTP id MAA05998 for ; Fri, 10 Nov 1995 12:50:22 -0800 (PST) Received: from decaf.gis.shl.com ([142.77.252.13]) by cicerone.uunet.ca with SMTP id <168475-3>; Fri, 10 Nov 1995 15:49:02 -0500 Received: by decaf.gis.shl.com (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA08998; Fri, 10 Nov 95 15:54:26 EST Received: from panther.gis.shl.com(159.249.70.113) by decaf.gis.shl.com via smap (V1.3) id sma008996; Fri Nov 10 15:54:01 1995 Received: from beet.gis.shl.com by panther.gis.shl.com (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA06376; Fri, 10 Nov 95 15:51:17 EST Received: by beet.gis.shl.com (5.x/SMI-SVR4) id AA26721; Fri, 10 Nov 1995 15:47:41 -0500 Date: Fri, 10 Nov 1995 15:47:40 -0500 From: Paul Arscott To: majordomo-users@GreatCircle.COM Subject: alias loop Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk Ok I can't figure out why I'm getting a "possible alias loop" with majordomo-1.93. It works fine when I send to majordomo directly but when I send say "info" to my list (vision-list) I get the alias error. My aliases are: $ ypcat -k aliases|grep vision-list vision-list-approval mbaker owner-vision-list mbaker vision-list-request "|/users.pd/majordomo/wrapper request-answer vision-list" vision-list :include:/users.pd/majordomo/Lists/vision-list $ ypcat -k aliases|grep majordomo owner-majordomo mbaker majordomo-owner mbaker majordomo "|/users.pd/majordomo/wrapper majordomo" vision-list :include:/users.pd/majordomo/Lists/vision-list -------------------------------------------------------------------- Here's my bounced header file and .cf files -------------------------------------------------------------------- ----- Transcript of session follows ----- 554 vision-list@beet... Possible alias loop 554 No valid recipients ----- Unsent message follows ----- Return-Path: Received: by beet.gis.shl.com (5.x/SMI-SVR4) id AA25230; Fri, 10 Nov 1995 14:07:38 -0500 Date: Fri, 10 Nov 1995 14:07:37 -0500 (EST) From: Paul Arscott To: vision-list@beet Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII -------------------------------------------------------------------- majordomo.cf -------------------------------------------------------------------- # $whereami -- What machine am I running on? $whereami = "gis.shl.com"; # $whoami -- Who do users send requests to me as? $whoami = "Majordomo@$whereami"; # $whoami_owner -- Who is the owner of the above, in case of problems? $whoami_owner = "Majordomo-Owner@$whereami"; # $homedir -- Where can I find my extra .pl files, like majordomo.pl? # the environment variable HOME is set by the wrapper if ( defined $ENV{"HOME"}) { $homedir = $ENV{"HOME"}; } else { $homedir = "/users.pd/majordomo"; } # $listdir -- Where are the mailing lists? $listdir = "/users.pd/majordomo/mail/lists"; # $digest_work_dir -- the parent directory for digest's queue area # Each list must have a subdirectory under this directory in order for # digest to work. E.G. The bblisa list would use: # /usr/local/mail/digest/bblisa # as its directory. $digest_work_dir = '/users.pd/majordomo/mail/digest'; # $log -- Where do I write my log? $log = "$homedir/Log"; # $mailer -- What program and args do I use to send mail? # The variable $to can be interpolated into this command line, # however the $to variable is provided by the person sending mail, # and much mischief can be had by playing with this variable. # Use $to with care. $mailer = "/usr/lib/sendmail -f\$sender -t"; # Majordomo will look for "get" and "index" files related to $list in # directory "$filedir/$list$filedir_suffix", so set $filedir and # $filedir_suffix appropriately. For instance, to look in # /usr/local/mail/files/$list, use: # $filedir = "/usr/local/mail/files"; # $filedir_suffix = ""; # empty string # or to look in $listdir/$list.archive, use: # $filedir = "$listdir"; # $filedir_suffix = ".archive"; $filedir = "$listdir"; $filedir_suffix = ".archive"; # What command should I use to process an "index" request? $index_command = "/bin/ls -lRL"; # If you want to use FTPMAIL, rather than local access, for file transfer # and access, define the following: # $ftpmail_address = "ftpmail@decwrl.dec.com"; # $ftpmail_location = "FTP.$whereami"; # if you want the subject of the request to be included as part of the # subject of the reply (useful when automatically testing, or submitting # multiple command sets), set $return_subject to 1. $return_subject = 1; # If you are using majordomo at the -request address, set the # following variable to 1. This affects the welcome message that is # sent to a new subscriber as well as the help text that is generated. $majordomo_request = 0; # Set the umask for the process. Used to set default file status for # config file. umask(007); # the safe locations for archive directories. This should be defined as # a series of root anchored directory paths as will be used as prefixes # to the file names specified to the archive2.pl script. @archive_dirs = ( "/users.pd/majordomo/archive" ); # Set this to 1 if you want to use the experimental mechanism for allowing # / in user names. People with lots of X.400 addresses on their lists or # HP mail whatever may want to set this. However use it at your own risk. $analyze_slash_in_address = 0; # # these tune the experimental matching that is done for addresses with / in # them. If you haven't turned on the experimental analyze_slash_in_address # they are ignored. See the source for full explanation of these variables. # # if set to 1 ignore the requirement that addresses have an @ sign in the # address component after the last /. $no_x400at=0; # if set to 1 do not look for "/c=" and "/ad=" or "/am=" in the address. # X.400 seems to require these components. $no_true_x400=0; 1; # $Header: /sources/cvsrepos/majordomo/sample.cf,v 1.4.2.1.2.2 1995/01/07 17:35:03 rouilj Exp $ --------------------------------------------------------------------------- -- Real Life: Paul Arscott SHL VISION* Solutions Internet: pwa@gis.shl.com Suite 501, 50 O'Connor Street VOICE: 613-236-9734 x 1233 Ottawa, Ontario FAX: 613-567-5433 K1P 6L2 Note: If you are sending a technical support request please use: EMAIL: support@gis.shl.com VOICE: 613-236-9734 ext 301 or 271 This way, you will get a faster response. From majordomo-users-owner Fri Nov 10 14:23:15 1995 Received: (majordom@localhost) by miles.greatcircle.com (8.7.1/Miles-950430-1) id NAA07621 for majordomo-users-outgoing; Fri, 10 Nov 1995 13:56:09 -0800 (PST) Received: from gw2.att.com (gw2.att.com [192.20.239.134]) by miles.greatcircle.com (8.7.1/Miles-950430-1) with SMTP id NAA07600; Fri, 10 Nov 1995 13:55:45 -0800 (PST) Received: from attme.UUCP by ig1.att.att.com id AA21717; Thu, 9 Nov 95 08:47:30 EST Date: 9 Nov 95 08:47:00 -0500 To: majordomo-users@greatcircle.com, majordomo-workers@greatcircle.com Received: from alhma by muffin.cnet.att.com; Thu, 9 Nov 95 08:47 EST Original-Date: Thu, 9 Nov 95 08:47 EST From: alhma@attme.cnet.att.com Subject: Equivalent but not exactly equal addresses Content-Type: text Message-Id: <30a2065a0.2d75@muffin.attme.cnet.att.com> X-Sun-Charset: US-ASCII Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk I am using Majordomo version 1.93 on Sun Solaris 5.4. and Sendmail V8. So far all the commands that I need work as you have described. We have a somewhat complicated mail system and without boring you with the details I would like to be able to do the following in Majordomo. The subscriber address is abcde!user but mail comes in from this subscriber as user@abcde3.xyz.zzz.com. This makes it impossible for this subscriber to GET files from list archive and to UNSUBSCRIBE . If I change the subscriber address (the obvious) this leads to more complications in our mail administration. Soooo..., is there an easy routine I can add to Majordomo to see these two addresses as equivalent? I'm reading my way through the Perl programming book (the camel book) for the first time. Seems like there should be a way. List subscriber From address abcde!user = user@abcde3.xyz.zzz.com thanks Helen Angelina From majordomo-users-owner Fri Nov 10 14:30:49 1995 Received: (majordom@localhost) by miles.greatcircle.com (8.7.1/Miles-950430-1) id NAA07682 for majordomo-users-outgoing; Fri, 10 Nov 1995 13:58:03 -0800 (PST) Received: from europe.std.com (europe.std.com [192.74.137.10]) by miles.greatcircle.com (8.7.1/Miles-950430-1) with SMTP id NAA07677 for ; Fri, 10 Nov 1995 13:57:59 -0800 (PST) Received: from world.std.com by europe.std.com (8.6.12/Spike-8-1.0) id QAA11951; Fri, 10 Nov 1995 16:58:15 -0500 Received: by world.std.com (5.65c/Spike-2.0) id AA28862; Fri, 10 Nov 1995 16:58:15 -0500 Message-Id: <199511102158.AA28862@world.std.com> To: Paul Arscott Cc: majordomo-users@GreatCircle.COM Subject: Re: alias loop In-Reply-To: Your message of "Fri, 10 Nov 1995 15:47:40 EST." Date: Fri, 10 Nov 1995 16:58:14 -0500 From: Elizabeth Lear Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk >Ok I can't figure out why I'm getting a "possible alias loop" with >majordomo-1.93. >It works fine when I send to majordomo directly but when I send say >"info" to my list (vision-list) I get the alias error. First, the info request would go to majordomo or to the listname-request address. Not to the list. >vision-list :include:/users.pd/majordomo/Lists/vision-list I think you're missing a step - you never call the resend program on the list itself, so the config file is never referenced. Here's an example of my aliases: musicals-mail: |/usr/local/lib/majordomo/wrapper resend -l musicals-mail -h world.std.com musicals-mail-outgoing" musicals-mail-outgoing: :include: /usr/local/lib/majordomo/Lists/musicals-mail owner-musicals-mail: eliz musicals-mail-request: "|/usr/local/lib/majordomo/wrapper majordomo -l musicals-mail" musicals-mail-approval: eliz ...eliz From majordomo-users-owner Fri Nov 10 15:53:15 1995 Received: (majordom@localhost) by miles.greatcircle.com (8.7.1/Miles-950430-1) id PAA10217 for majordomo-users-outgoing; Fri, 10 Nov 1995 15:23:46 -0800 (PST) Received: from venus.hyperk.com (venus.hyperk.com [199.104.80.3]) by miles.greatcircle.com (8.7.1/Miles-950430-1) with SMTP id PAA10212 for ; Fri, 10 Nov 1995 15:23:43 -0800 (PST) Received: from stimpy.hyperk.com by venus.hyperk.com; (5.65/1.1.8.2/17May94-1026PM) id AA25266; Fri, 10 Nov 1995 16:24:00 -0700 Message-Id: <9511102324.AA25266@venus.hyperk.com> X-Sender: cdm@venus.hyperk.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Fri, 10 Nov 1995 16:20:17 -0700 To: majordomo-users@greatcircle.com From: Dale Cook Subject: Re: Archive problem Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk Steve Linn asks: >However, no matter how much I try, I cannot get the Archive >process to work. I have read and re-read the docs and tried >the samples but it keeps failing with the following errors: > >Message delivered to mailing list sample-archive >Message delivered to mailing list sample-outgoing >/bbs/majordomo/archive/sample: line 0: /bbs/majordomo/archive/sample... cannot o >pen: Permission denied >554 /bbs/majordomo/archive/sample: line 0: /bbs/majordomo/archive/sample... cann >ot open: Permission denied >550 /bbs/majordomo/archive/sample... Can't create output: Error 0 > >I have set the directory permissions to 775 and the file >permissions to 664 per the documentation. Have you also added your archive directories to the majordomo.cf file? ala: # the safe locations for archive directories. This should be defined as # a series of root anchored directory paths as will be used as prefixes # to the file names specified to the archive2.pl script. @archive_dirs = ( "/Majordomo/Lists/list1.archive", "/Majordomo/Lists/list2.archive" ); ----dale ========================================================================== Dale Cook Telephone (208) 525-3708 Scientech, Inc Email cdm@Hyperk.com 1690 International Way Fax (208) 529-4721 Idaho Falls, Id 8340 From majordomo-users-owner Fri Nov 10 17:23:15 1995 Received: (majordom@localhost) by miles.greatcircle.com (8.7.1/Miles-950430-1) id RAA16527 for majordomo-users-outgoing; Fri, 10 Nov 1995 17:14:29 -0800 (PST) Received: from connectnet1.connectnet.com (connectnet1.connectnet.com [204.252.0.50]) by miles.greatcircle.com (8.7.1/Miles-950430-1) with ESMTP id RAA16522 for ; Fri, 10 Nov 1995 17:14:26 -0800 (PST) Received: (uucp@localhost) by connectnet1.connectnet.com (8.7.1/CN-CONFIG-0.2) id RAA26607 for majordomo-users@greatcircle.com; Fri, 10 Nov 1995 17:14:38 -0800 (PST) >Received: by pino.connectnet.com (8.6.9/1.34) id RAA17465; Fri, 10 Nov 1995 17:01:23 -0800 Date: Fri, 10 Nov 1995 17:01:23 -0800 From: pino!alcocer@connectnet1.connectnet.com (Dario Alcocer) Message-Id: <199511110101.RAA17465@pino.connectnet.com> To: alhma@attme.cnet.att.com Cc: majordomo-users@greatcircle.com Subject: Equivalent but not exactly equal addresses In-Reply-To: <30a2065a0.2d75@muffin.attme.cnet.att.com> References: <30a2065a0.2d75@muffin.attme.cnet.att.com> Content-Type: text Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk >>>>> "Helen" == alhma writes: Helen> Soooo..., Helen> is there an easy routine I can add to Majordomo to see Helen> these two addresses as equivalent? I'm reading my way Helen> through the Perl programming book (the camel book) for the Helen> first time. Seems like there should be a way. Helen> List subscriber From address abcde!user = Helen> user@abcde3.xyz.zzz.com How about the following: #!/usr/bin/perl sub translate_address { local($address, $domain_suffix) = @_; # separate machine name & user name from UUCP address local($machine, $user) = split('!', $address, 2); # form new address from user name, machine name, and # domain suffix $user . '@' . $machine . $domain_suffix; } # presumably you won't have the address hard-coded, # but read in from the unsub request $addr = "abcde!user"; # this is the domain you'd like to append $dom = "3.xyz.zzz.com"; # display UUCP style address printf "the old address is: $addr\n"; # display translated address printf "the new address is: %s\n", &translate_address($addr, $dom); Although not particularly clever, the above routine does do the job. If you'd like more ideas, check out the other Perl book from ORA, entitled _Learning Perl_. It seems to have more examples than the Camel book, but the Camel book you should have around for reference anyway. Hope this helps... -- Dario Alcocer alcocer@pino.connectnet.com From majordomo-users-owner Fri Nov 10 21:53:21 1995 Received: (majordom@localhost) by miles.greatcircle.com (8.7.1/Miles-950430-1) id VAA03418 for majordomo-users-outgoing; Fri, 10 Nov 1995 21:26:14 -0800 (PST) Received: from mailhost1.primenet.com (mailhost1.primenet.com [198.68.32.51]) by miles.greatcircle.com (8.7.1/Miles-950430-1) with ESMTP id VAA03387; Fri, 10 Nov 1995 21:25:48 -0800 (PST) Received: from usr5.primenet.com (root@usr5.primenet.com [198.68.32.15]) by mailhost1.primenet.com (8.7.1/8.7.1) with ESMTP id WAA27455; Fri, 10 Nov 1995 22:26:30 GMT Received: (from peterqz@localhost) by usr5.primenet.com (8.7.1/8.7.1) id WAA18716; Fri, 10 Nov 1995 22:25:31 -0700 (MST) Date: Fri, 10 Nov 1995 22:25:31 -0700 (MST) From: Peter Quizert Message-Id: <199511110525.WAA18716@usr5.primenet.com> To: firewalls-digest@GreatCircle.COM, list-managers-digest@GreatCircle.COM, majordomo-users@GreatCircle.COM, phonestation-digest@GreatCircle.COM, sunflash-f-usa@FlashBack.COM, sunworld@FlashBack.COM, usa@FlashBack.COM Subject: Are You Preapred? Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk The Problem: Most companies require a pre-employment drug test. If you are seeking employment, on probation, or in the military, you will have to take a drug test. Another Problem: Eating the wrong breakfast, or using certain over-the- counter pain relievers will falsely identify you as a drug user. The Real Problem: Public and private employers spend 1.2 billion dollars each year (1992 figures) on drug tests that are unreliable and inaccurate. Even hard working employees that do not use drugs are at risk. The Solution: ================================ Know the Facts. Know what foods and over the counter medicines are routinely mistaken for common illegal drugs. Simply eating a poppy seed bagel before a drug test can identify you as an opiate user. Know how long different illicit drugs can be detected in your system. Marijuana can be detected for more than a month if nothing is done to conceal its use. 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This is not a simplistic "tea" or golden seal approach to the problem! This amazing three phase system is guaranteed! And not just guaranteed ... We are so sure our unique three phase system will work for you that we are including a DOUBLE YOUR MONEY BACK GUARANTEE!!! Everyone has a friend who needs this information! =================================================================== -------------------------------- P R I N T and S A V E ! ! -------------------------------- Be prepared. Stop worrying now! You will pass. We guarantee it!! Order your guaranteed Clean 'n Clear package now by sending $19.95 along with your name and address to: Clean 'n Clear 2809 East Hamilton Av #121B Eau Claire, WI 54701 Most companies require pre-employment drug screens. You may only have a few days notice of a drug test. Be Prepared. Order Now! =================================================================== Sorry, Clean 'n Clear is not legal in Texas, and will NOT be mailed to Texas addresses. Distributor inquires welcome. From majordomo-users-owner Fri Nov 10 22:23:19 1995 Received: (majordom@localhost) by miles.greatcircle.com (8.7.1/Miles-950430-1) id WAA04915 for majordomo-users-outgoing; Fri, 10 Nov 1995 22:03:47 -0800 (PST) Received: from mailhost1.primenet.com (mailhost1.primenet.com [198.68.32.51]) by miles.greatcircle.com (8.7.1/Miles-950430-1) with ESMTP id WAA04772; Fri, 10 Nov 1995 22:02:10 -0800 (PST) Received: from usr5.primenet.com (root@usr5.primenet.com [198.68.32.15]) by mailhost1.primenet.com (8.7.1/8.7.1) with ESMTP id XAA01866; Fri, 10 Nov 1995 23:03:15 GMT Received: (from peterqz@localhost) by usr5.primenet.com (8.7.1/8.7.1) id XAA27947; Fri, 10 Nov 1995 23:02:17 -0700 (MST) Date: Fri, 10 Nov 1995 23:02:17 -0700 (MST) From: Peter Quizert Message-Id: <199511110602.XAA27947@usr5.primenet.com> To: firewalls-digest@GreatCircle.COM, list-managers-digest@GreatCircle.COM, majordomo-users@GreatCircle.COM, phonestation-digest@GreatCircle.COM, sunflash-f-usa@FlashBack.COM, sunworld@FlashBack.COM, usa@FlashBack.COM Subject: Are You Preapred? Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk The Problem: Most companies require a pre-employment drug test. If you are seeking employment, on probation, or in the military, you will have to take a drug test. Another Problem: Eating the wrong breakfast, or using certain over-the- counter pain relievers will falsely identify you as a drug user. The Real Problem: Public and private employers spend 1.2 billion dollars each year (1992 figures) on drug tests that are unreliable and inaccurate. Even hard working employees that do not use drugs are at risk. The Solution: ================================ Know the Facts. Know what foods and over the counter medicines are routinely mistaken for common illegal drugs. Simply eating a poppy seed bagel before a drug test can identify you as an opiate user. Know how long different illicit drugs can be detected in your system. Marijuana can be detected for more than a month if nothing is done to conceal its use. Know the different types of drug tests, especially the ones you are likely to face. GC/MS tests are almost impossible to beat, but are seldom used. The more common EMIT test is much easier to fool -- if you know how. Be Prepared! Know when the test is coming. Do not use illicit drugs, or ingest cross-reactive substances before the test. Clean your system of drug metabolites and cross-reactive substances. Drink plenty of water and urinate as often as possible before the test. Do NOT give them your first urine of the day! Use Clean 'n Clear. Clean 'n Clear is a three phase system designed to Clean out your body, so you will give Clear urine and Clear the test. The unique Clean 'n Clear Package includes: 1. Simple step-by-step instructions 2. All natural blood purifiers 3. All natural urine flow stimulators 4. Coloring vitamins to put 'yellow' back in your clear urine 5. Information you need about drug testing 6. A guarantee! This is not a simplistic "tea" or golden seal approach to the problem! This amazing three phase system is guaranteed! And not just guaranteed ... We are so sure our unique three phase system will work for you that we are including a DOUBLE YOUR MONEY BACK GUARANTEE!!! Everyone has a friend who needs this information! =================================================================== -------------------------------- P R I N T and S A V E ! ! -------------------------------- Be prepared. Stop worrying now! You will pass. We guarantee it!! Order your guaranteed Clean 'n Clear package now by sending $19.95 along with your name and address to: Clean 'n Clear 2809 East Hamilton Av #121D Eau Claire, WI 54701 Most companies require pre-employment drug screens. You may only have a few days notice of a drug test. Be Prepared. Order Now! =================================================================== Sorry, Clean 'n Clear is not legal in Texas, and will NOT be mailed to Texas addresses. Distributor inquires welcome. From majordomo-users-owner Fri Nov 10 23:23:16 1995 Received: (majordom@localhost) by miles.greatcircle.com (8.7.1/Miles-950430-1) id XAA08516 for majordomo-users-outgoing; Fri, 10 Nov 1995 23:04:08 -0800 (PST) Received: from netcom18.netcom.com (netcom18.netcom.com [192.100.81.131]) by miles.greatcircle.com (8.7.1/Miles-950430-1) with SMTP id XAA08511; Fri, 10 Nov 1995 23:04:05 -0800 (PST) Received: by netcom18.netcom.com (8.6.12/Netcom) id XAA25789; Fri, 10 Nov 1995 23:02:53 -0800 From: jadestar@netcom.com (JaDe) Message-Id: <199511110702.XAA25789@netcom18.netcom.com> Subject: Re: Are You Preapred? To: peterqz@primenet.com (Peter Quizert) Date: Fri, 10 Nov 1995 23:02:51 -0800 (PST) Cc: firewalls-digest@GreatCircle.COM, list-managers-digest@GreatCircle.COM, majordomo-users@GreatCircle.COM, phonestation-digest@GreatCircle.COM, sunflash-f-usa@FlashBack.COM, sunworld@FlashBack.COM, usa@FlashBack.COM In-Reply-To: <199511110525.WAA18716@usr5.primenet.com> from "Peter Quizert" at Nov 10, 95 10:25:31 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk > > > > The Problem: > > Most companies require a pre-employment drug test. > If you are seeking employment, on probation, or in > the military, you will have to take a drug test. I've already bounced copies two of these to my postmaster, and the postmaster at Primenet. I've also called the InterNIC administrative contact at Primenet (which is where this appears to be coming from). So, just this once, could we skip the secondary and tertiary waves of "I hate spammers" posts? (I realize that this won't be the last we hear about this -- but let's please keep the rest off the mailing lists themselves). From majordomo-users-owner Sat Nov 11 00:23:15 1995 Received: (majordom@localhost) by miles.greatcircle.com (8.7.1/Miles-950430-1) id AAA11687 for majordomo-users-outgoing; Sat, 11 Nov 1995 00:20:13 -0800 (PST) Received: from syse.dce.vic.gov.au (syse.dce.vic.gov.au [203.11.140.1]) by miles.greatcircle.com (8.7.1/Miles-950430-1) with ESMTP id AAA11682 for ; Sat, 11 Nov 1995 00:20:06 -0800 (PST) Received: from hermes.dce.vic.gov.au (hermes.dce.vic.gov.au [157.128.1.43]) by syse.dce.vic.gov.au with SMTP id TAA20532 (8.7.1/IDA-1.6 for ); Sat, 11 Nov 1995 19:18:37 +1100 (EST) Received: from msl.oz.au (msl) by hermes.dce.vic.gov.au with SMTP id AA12849 (5.67a/IDA-1.5 for ); Sat, 11 Nov 1995 19:20:44 +1100 Received: from msl by msl.oz.au (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA11912; Sat, 11 Nov 95 19:19:58 EST Message-Id: <9511110819.AA11912@msl.oz.au> X-Sender: ngd@msl X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 2.1.2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Sat, 11 Nov 1995 19:19:56 +1000 To: majordomo-users@GreatCircle.COM From: Nik Dow Subject: Re: Archive problem Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk At 04:20 PM 10/11/95 -0700, Dale Cook wrote: >Steve Linn asks: > >>However, no matter how much I try, I cannot get the Archive >>process to work. I have read and re-read the docs and tried >>the samples but it keeps failing with the following errors: >> >>Message delivered to mailing list sample-archive >>Message delivered to mailing list sample-outgoing >>/bbs/majordomo/archive/sample: line 0: /bbs/majordomo/archive/sample... cannot o [snipped.] >Have you also added your archive directories to the majordomo.cf file? ala: > ># the safe locations for archive directories. This should be defined as ># a series of root anchored directory paths as will be used as prefixes ># to the file names specified to the archive2.pl script. >@archive_dirs = ( "/Majordomo/Lists/list1.archive", > "/Majordomo/Lists/list2.archive" ); The .config file created by majordomo 1.93 for my lists includes a parameter archive_dir = with the comment above that it should be left blank as it does not work. Is this relevant? Nik Dow Victorian Fisheries Research Institute voice +61 (3) 412 4901 P.O. Box 114 fax: (3) 412 4623 or (52) 580 270 ,-_|\ Queenscliff n.dow@dce.vic.gov.au / \ Australia 3225 \_,-. / * <--- Queenscliff v From majordomo-users-owner Sat Nov 11 00:53:15 1995 Received: (majordom@localhost) by miles.greatcircle.com (8.7.1/Miles-950430-1) id AAA12890 for majordomo-users-outgoing; Sat, 11 Nov 1995 00:52:54 -0800 (PST) Received: from iron.magnets.com (iron.magnets.com [198.252.219.176]) by miles.greatcircle.com (8.7.1/Miles-950430-1) with SMTP id AAA12885 for ; Sat, 11 Nov 1995 00:52:51 -0800 (PST) Received: from ziggy (ziggy [198.252.219.189]) by iron.magnets.com (8.6.11/8.6.11) with SMTP id AAA19210 for ; Sat, 11 Nov 1995 00:57:35 -0800 Message-Id: <199511110857.AAA19210@iron.magnets.com> X-Sender: kee@magnets.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 2.1.2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Sat, 11 Nov 1995 00:47:22 -0800 To: majordomo-users@GreatCircle.COM From: Tom Kee Subject: Major woes Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk Well, I know I have the recursive problem as described by "I get "Out of Memory" when upgrading to 1.93" from the FAQ. Premissions are good on the Log file. majordom owns everything except wrapper, and the directory that the lock file is trying to be created in is ok. The funny thing is except for the long delay while we wait to run out of memory and the error message, the result returns just fine. At wits end I took a wild guess and turned on shlock_debug in shlock.pl. This is a cut of the last file of 21 mail messages that were produced. temporary filename "/usr/local/majordomo/shlock.11451" trying lock "/usr/local/majordomo/L.Log" for pid 11451 temporary filename "/usr/local/majordomo/shlock.11451" trying lock "/usr/local/majordomo/L.Log" for pid 11451 temporary filename "/usr/local/majordomo/shlock.11451" Out of memory! 554 "|/usr/local/majordomo/bin/wrapper majordomo"... unknown mailer error 1 Can anyone get me back on coarse? Tom From majordomo-users-owner Sat Nov 11 04:53:15 1995 Received: (majordom@localhost) by miles.greatcircle.com (8.7.1/Miles-950430-1) id EAA18656 for majordomo-users-outgoing; Sat, 11 Nov 1995 04:26:18 -0800 (PST) Received: from caracas.terraport.net (caracas.terraport.net [205.189.144.2]) by miles.greatcircle.com (8.7.1/Miles-950430-1) with ESMTP id EAA18651 for ; Sat, 11 Nov 1995 04:26:15 -0800 (PST) Received: from westhill.skl.com (root@link.skl.com [205.233.242.254]) by caracas.terraport.net (8.7.1/8.7.1) with SMTP id HAA08010; Sat, 11 Nov 1995 07:26:23 -0500 Received: from abacab (abacab.skl.com [205.233.242.127]) by westhill.skl.com (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id HAA25730; Sat, 11 Nov 1995 07:28:32 -0500 Received: by abacab with Microsoft Mail id <01BAB006.BDDBC920@abacab>; Sat, 11 Nov 1995 07:24:30 -0500 Message-ID: <01BAB006.BDDBC920@abacab> From: Steve Linn To: "majordomo-users@GreatCircle.COM" , "'Tom Kee'" Subject: RE: Major woes Date: Sat, 11 Nov 1995 07:24:28 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk This sounds like it could be one of a couple of things. Did you do the "make install-wrapper" ? Are you sure you are executing the correct wrapper program? Seems to me I had something similar a couple of weeks ago, now I am just trying to remember how I resolved the problem. Hope this helps ... Steve ---------- From: Tom Kee[SMTP:tom.kee@magnets.com] Sent: Saturday, November 11, 1995 3:47 AM To: majordomo-users@GreatCircle.COM Subject: Major woes Well, I know I have the recursive problem as described by "I get "Out of Memory" when upgrading to 1.93" from the FAQ. Premissions are good on the Log file. majordom owns everything except wrapper, and the directory that the lock file is trying to be created in is ok. The funny thing is except for the long delay while we wait to run out of memory and the error message, the result returns just fine. At wits end I took a wild guess and turned on shlock_debug in shlock.pl. This is a cut of the last file of 21 mail messages that were produced. temporary filename "/usr/local/majordomo/shlock.11451" trying lock "/usr/local/majordomo/L.Log" for pid 11451 temporary filename "/usr/local/majordomo/shlock.11451" trying lock "/usr/local/majordomo/L.Log" for pid 11451 temporary filename "/usr/local/majordomo/shlock.11451" Out of memory! 554 "|/usr/local/majordomo/bin/wrapper majordomo"... unknown mailer error 1 Can anyone get me back on coarse? Tom ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Systems Knowledge Link SKL Enterprises Dealers/Consultants in Computer Software Equipment Internet Services WWW Pages Remote Services Steve Linn E-Mail: slinn@skl.com http://www.skl.com From majordomo-users-owner Sun Nov 12 13:53:17 1995 Received: (majordom@localhost) by miles.greatcircle.com (8.7.1/Miles-950430-1) id NAA23388 for majordomo-users-outgoing; Sun, 12 Nov 1995 13:51:47 -0800 (PST) Received: from syse.dce.vic.gov.au (syse.dce.vic.gov.au [203.11.140.1]) by miles.greatcircle.com (8.7.1/Miles-950430-1) with ESMTP id NAA23383 for ; Sun, 12 Nov 1995 13:51:40 -0800 (PST) Received: from hermes.dce.vic.gov.au (hermes.dce.vic.gov.au [157.128.1.43]) by syse.dce.vic.gov.au with SMTP id IAA23797 (8.7.1/IDA-1.6 for ); Mon, 13 Nov 1995 08:50:07 +1100 (EST) Received: from msl.oz.au (msl) by hermes.dce.vic.gov.au with SMTP id AA28285 (5.67a/IDA-1.5 for ); Mon, 13 Nov 1995 08:52:17 +1100 Received: from msl by msl.oz.au (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA11912; Sat, 11 Nov 95 19:19:58 EST Message-Id: <9511110819.AA11912@msl.oz.au> X-Sender: ngd@msl X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 2.1.2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Sat, 11 Nov 1995 19:19:56 +1000 To: majordomo-users@GreatCircle.COM From: Nik Dow Subject: Re: Archive problem Received: from SJUVM (NJE origin SMTP@SJUVM) by SJUVM.STJOHNS.EDU (LMail V1.2a/1.8a) with BSMTP id 2057; Fri, 10 Nov 1995 23:24:16 -0500 Received: from emout04.mail.aol.com by SJUVM.stjohns.edu (IBM VM SMTP V2R3) with TCP; Fri, 10 Nov 95 23:24:15 EST Received: by emout04.mail.aol.com (8.6.12/8.6.12) id XAA27427 for MADNESS@sjuvm.stjohns.edu; Fri, 10 Nov 1995 23:24:27 -0500 Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk From majordomo-users-owner Sun Nov 12 23:53:17 1995 Received: (majordom@localhost) by miles.greatcircle.com (8.7.1/Miles-950430-1) id XAA16604 for majordomo-users-outgoing; Sun, 12 Nov 1995 23:44:46 -0800 (PST) Received: from luke (luke.gsilink.com [202.47.2.2]) by miles.greatcircle.com (8.7.1/Miles-950430-1) with SMTP id XAA16569 for ; Sun, 12 Nov 1995 23:44:30 -0800 (PST) Received: from han.gsilink.com by luke (5.x/SMI-SVR4) id AA25244; Mon, 13 Nov 1995 15:42:32 +0800 Message-Id: <9511130742.AA25244@luke> Comments: Authenticated sender is From: "Ronnie R. Do" To: Majordomo-Users@greatcircle.com Date: Mon, 13 Nov 1995 15:47:00 +0000 Subject: OUT OF MEMORY... ? X-Mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (v2.01) Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk I have just finished setting up Majordomo v1.93 into our system. Then I told my friend to try sending a "HELP" command to majordomo. My friend got the HELP info, but I(majordomo-owner) got an error message - OUT OF MEMORY. Here's the message I got: Date sent: Mon, 13 Nov 1995 15:15:25 +0800 From: Mailer-Daemon (Mail Delivery Subsystem) Subject: Returned mail: unknown mailer error 1 To: owner-majordomo ----- Transcript of session follows ----- <<< EHLO leia.gsilink.com 500 Command unrecognized <<< HELO leia.gsilink.com <<< MAIL From: <<< RCPT To: <<< DATA Out of memory! 554 "|/usr/local/majordomo/wrapper majordomo"... unknown mailer error 1 ----- Unsent message follows ----- Return-Path: Received: from leia.gsilink.com by luke (5.x/SMI-SVR4) id AA25166; Mon, 13 Nov 1995 15:15:25 +0800 Errors-To: ronnie@leia.gsilink.com Received: (from marvin@localhost) by leia.gsilink.com (8.6.11/8.6.9) id PAA11309 for majordomo@gsilink.com; Mon, 13 Nov 1995 15:25:27 +0800 Date: Mon, 13 Nov 1995 15:25:27 +0800 From: "Marvin P. Campo" Message-Id: <199511130725.PAA11309@leia.gsilink.com> To: majordomo@gsilink.com help From majordomo-users-owner Mon Nov 13 00:53:17 1995 Received: (majordom@localhost) by miles.greatcircle.com (8.7.1/Miles-950430-1) id AAA18678 for majordomo-users-outgoing; Mon, 13 Nov 1995 00:32:33 -0800 (PST) Received: from iron.magnets.com (iron.magnets.com [198.252.219.176]) by miles.greatcircle.com (8.7.1/Miles-950430-1) with SMTP id AAA18673 for ; Mon, 13 Nov 1995 00:32:30 -0800 (PST) Received: from ziggy (ziggy [198.252.219.189]) by iron.magnets.com (8.6.11/8.6.11) with SMTP id AAA21299; Mon, 13 Nov 1995 00:36:14 -0800 Message-Id: <199511130836.AAA21299@iron.magnets.com> X-Sender: kee@magnets.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 2.1.2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Mon, 13 Nov 1995 00:25:49 -0800 To: "Ronnie R. Do" , Majordomo-Users@GreatCircle.COM From: Tom Kee Subject: Re: OUT OF MEMORY... ? Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk At 03:47 PM 11/13/95 +0000, Ronnie R. Do wrote: >I have just finished setting up Majordomo v1.93 into our system. >Then I told my friend to try sending a "HELP" command to majordomo. >My friend got the HELP info, but I(majordomo-owner) got an error >message - OUT OF MEMORY. Considering this weekends pains with this subject, I feel qualified. Read the Makefile for differences between POSIX and BSD first. Make sure all the scripts are executable. Make sure the user majordom has write permissions in the installation tree. And finally in my case make sure the sticky bit is set on wrapper (4755). The script trying to set a lock (shlock.pl) without permissions to do so and recurses until it uses all the memory (or so I believe). Good luck, Tom From majordomo-users-owner Mon Nov 13 06:53:17 1995 Received: (majordom@localhost) by miles.greatcircle.com (8.7.1/Miles-950430-1) id GAA05244 for majordomo-users-outgoing; Mon, 13 Nov 1995 06:27:40 -0800 (PST) Received: from spsgate.sps.mot.com (spsgate.sps.mot.com [192.70.231.1]) by miles.greatcircle.com (8.7.1/Miles-950430-1) with SMTP id GAA05233 for ; Mon, 13 Nov 1995 06:27:35 -0800 (PST) Received: from mogate (mogate.sps.mot.com) by spsgate.sps.mot.com (4.1/SMI-4.1/Email 2.1 10/25/93) id AA25427 for majordomo-users@greatcircle.com; Mon, 13 Nov 95 07:27:49 MST Received: from motsps by mogate (4.1/SMI-4.1/Email-2.0) id AA18171; Mon, 13 Nov 95 07:27:47 MST Received: from risc.sps.mot.com by motsps (4.1/SMI-4.1/Email-2.1) id AA09029 for majordomo-users@greatcircle.com; Mon, 13 Nov 95 07:27:46 MST Received: from miaow.sps.mot.com by risc.sps.mot.com (4.1/SMI-3.0DEV3) id AA10852; Mon, 13 Nov 95 08:27:43 CST Received: by miaow.sps.mot.com (AIX 3.2/UCB 5.64/4.03) id AA18204; Mon, 13 Nov 1995 08:27:42 -0600 From: dwolfe@risc.sps.mot.com (Dave Wolfe) Message-Id: <9511131427.AA18204@miaow.sps.mot.com> Subject: Re: Problem with archiving To: wally@nicar.org (wallace winfrey) Date: Mon, 13 Nov 1995 08:27:42 -0600 (CST) Cc: majordomo-users@greatcircle.com (Majordomo user's mailing list) In-Reply-To: from "wallace winfrey" at Nov 12, 95 09:55:40 pm Reply-To: Dave Wolfe X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24 PGP3 *ALPHA*] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk [ Redirected to Majordomo-Users from Majordomo-Workers ] [ wallace winfrey writes: ] > > I'm working with majordomo for the first time, and have been experiencing > some problems getting messages to archive correctly ("getting those > Returned mail: unknown mailer error 2" and "MAJORDOMO ABORT Invalid archive > directory. Aborting." errors) [deletia] > And here's from majordomo.cf > > $filedir = "/usr/local/majordomo/archives/"; > $filedir_suffix = ".archive"; > > @archive_dirs = ( "/usr/local/majordomo/archives/board, /usr/local/majordomo/bounces" ); The @archive_dirs entries should take the form: $filedir/name_of_list$filedir_suffix You're omitting the $filedir_suffix part. > I guess what I'd like to do is archive the lists in > /usr/local/majordomo/archives/name_of_list In that case you need to make $filedir_suffix = "". Note that this path is a *directory* and not the archive file itself, so you end up with one of the following forms: /usr/local/majordomo/archives/name_of_list/name_of_list /usr/local/majordomo/archives/name_of_list/name_of_list.YY /usr/local/majordomo/archives/name_of_list/name_of_list.YYMM /usr/local/majordomo/archives/name_of_list/name_of_list.YYMMDD > How would I specify a variable for @archive_dirs instead of the full path > for each list? The list name isn't defined at the point when majordomo.cf is eval'ed, so the best you can do is as indicated above. However, you can use file globs (as noted in the FAQ; you did read the FAQ, didn't you?) to have one entry for all archives: @archive_dirs = <$filedir/*.$filedir_suffix>; Yes, that's angle brackets and not parentheses. The '*' is *not* a regexp, so it's not '.*' or anything of like that. -- Dave Wolfe *Not a spokesman for Motorola* (512) 891-3246 Motorola MMTG 6501 Wm. Cannon Dr. W. OE112 Austin TX 78735-8598 From majordomo-users-owner Mon Nov 13 20:23:18 1995 Received: (majordom@localhost) by miles.greatcircle.com (8.7.1/Miles-950430-1) id UAA25924 for majordomo-users-outgoing; Mon, 13 Nov 1995 20:04:58 -0800 (PST) Received: from fang.dsto.defence.gov.au (fang.dsto.defence.gov.au [131.185.2.5]) by miles.greatcircle.com (8.7.1/Miles-950430-1) with SMTP id UAA25919 for ; Mon, 13 Nov 1995 20:04:52 -0800 (PST) Received: from kaos.dsto.defence.gov.au by fang.dsto.defence.gov.au; (8.6.12/1.1.8.2/13May95-0346PM) id OAA02976; Tue, 14 Nov 1995 14:35:09 +1030 Received: by kaos.dsto.defence.gov.au (AIX 3.2/UCB 5.64/4.03) id AA20021; Tue, 14 Nov 1995 14:34:52 -0600 From: robinson@kaos.dsto.defence.gov.au (Greg Robinson) Message-Id: <9511142034.AA20021@kaos.dsto.defence.gov.au> Subject: archive wows.. To: majordomo-users@greatcircle.com Date: Tue, 14 Nov 1995 14:34:52 +22305350 (CST) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] Content-Type: text Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk Hi, I have a question about archiving: from majordomo.cf: # the safe locations for archive directories. This should be defined as # a series of root anchored directory paths as will be used as prefixes # to the file names specified to the archive2.pl script. @archive_dirs = ( "/usr/local/lib/majordomo" ); #### FOR EXAMPLE and then my alias: sample-outgoing: :include: /usr/local/lib/majordomo/sample, "|/usr/local/majordo mo/wrapper archive2.pl -a -m -f /usr/local/lib/majordomo/sample.archive/sample" Can somone correct my interpretation of the above (majordomo.cf): It means that this dir is the root dir where all archive subdirs should be made. So does it follow that the -f option to archive2.pl should just be: sample.archive/sample This doesn't work in practise, but I was just wondering where the floor is in my logic. I saw the previous posting about the format of @archive dir, but I was just wonder why I have to edit the majordomo.cf file everytime I add a new list that I want archived!?!?!? Thankx, Greg. -- Work: robinson@dsto.defence.gov.au Home: greg@arrakis.apana.org.au From majordomo-users-owner Mon Nov 13 21:53:18 1995 Received: (majordom@localhost) by miles.greatcircle.com (8.7.1/Miles-950430-1) id VAA28579 for majordomo-users-outgoing; Mon, 13 Nov 1995 21:37:37 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail.eskimo.com (mail.eskimo.com [204.122.16.4]) by miles.greatcircle.com (8.7.1/Miles-950430-1) with SMTP id VAA28574 for ; Mon, 13 Nov 1995 21:37:34 -0800 (PST) Received: from eskimo.com (jimo@eskimo.com [204.122.16.13]) by mail.eskimo.com (8.6.12/8.6.12) with ESMTP id VAA21499 for ; Mon, 13 Nov 1995 21:37:55 -0800 From: Jim Osborn Received: by eskimo.com (8.6.12) id VAA05781; Mon, 13 Nov 1995 21:37:41 -0800 Date: Mon, 13 Nov 1995 21:37:41 -0800 Message-Id: <199511140537.VAA05781@eskimo.com> To: majordomo-users@greatcircle.com Subject: Noadvertising my list Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk I've decided I want to hide my list from spam collectors, and thought if I put "/.*/" (without the quotes) in the noadvertise field that'd do the trick. The advertise field is blank. Yet, when I do a lists command, my list shows up. What regexp should I put in there to conceal my list from any listers? Thanks, jimo@eskimo.com From majordomo-users-owner Tue Nov 14 06:23:18 1995 Received: (majordom@localhost) by miles.greatcircle.com (8.7.1/Miles-950430-1) id GAA08109 for majordomo-users-outgoing; Tue, 14 Nov 1995 06:22:06 -0800 (PST) Received: from europe.std.com (europe.std.com [192.74.137.10]) by miles.greatcircle.com (8.7.1/Miles-950430-1) with SMTP id GAA08104 for ; Tue, 14 Nov 1995 06:22:03 -0800 (PST) Received: from world.std.com by europe.std.com (8.6.12/Spike-8-1.0) id JAA26354; Tue, 14 Nov 1995 09:22:23 -0500 Received: by world.std.com (5.65c/Spike-2.0) id AA08427; Tue, 14 Nov 1995 09:22:22 -0500 Date: Tue, 14 Nov 1995 09:22:22 -0500 From: eliz@world.std.com (Elizabeth Lear) Message-Id: <199511141422.AA08427@world.std.com> To: jimo@eskimo.com Cc: majordomo-users@greatcircle.com Subject: Re: Noadvertising my list Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk