From majordomo-users-owner Sun Mar 1 04:38:35 1998 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-970926-1) id EAA05705; Sun, 1 Mar 1998 04:34:58 -0800 (PST) Received: from castle.netlink.co.uk (castle.netlink.co.uk [194.88.140.12]) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-980202-1) with ESMTP id DAA18247 for ; Sun, 1 Mar 1998 03:17:57 -0800 (PST) From: merlin@netlink.co.uk Received: from th-pm00-21.ndirect.co.uk (th-pm00-21.ndirect.co.uk [195.7.225.21]) by castle.netlink.co.uk (8.8.5/8.8.3) with SMTP id LAA05654 for ; Sun, 1 Mar 1998 11:31:43 GMT To: majordomo-users@GreatCircle.COM Subject: Date: Sun, 01 Mar 1998 11:23:27 GMT Message-ID: <3509c462.4080124@mail.netlink.co.uk> X-Mailer: Forte Agent 1.5/32.452 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk [Using Majordomo 1.94.4; and inexperienced..] I'd like to insert the list name in the subject field, viz=20 Subject : [LIST-NAME]=20 ... so that it appears somewhere on the subject line. However, I've found that when a post with no subject is sent to the list... Majordomo will forward the post to to the list with a blank subject & no [LIST-NAME]. How does one ensure [LIST-NAME] gets in _always to list posts sent? (May be I have missed something elementary here.) Thanks you kindly for any advice, --=20 Darren Wyn Rees mailto:merlin@netlink.co.uk From majordomo-users-owner Sun Mar 1 08:38:56 1998 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-970926-1) id IAA26250; Sun, 1 Mar 1998 08:34:26 -0800 (PST) Received: from nimbus.esca.com (nimbus.esca.com [192.92.92.27]) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-980202-1) with ESMTP id IAA26163 for ; Sun, 1 Mar 1998 08:34:05 -0800 (PST) Received: from drizzle.esca.com (drizzle.esca.com [199.245.134.254]) by nimbus.esca.com (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id IAA15027 for ; Sun, 1 Mar 1998 08:40:56 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost by drizzle.esca.com (5.65v4.0/1.1.10.5/25Jan98-0347PM) id AA17152; Sun, 1 Mar 1998 08:40:55 -0800 Date: Sun, 1 Mar 1998 08:40:55 -0800 (PST) From: Tom Ozanich To: majordomo-users@GreatCircle.COM Subject: How to add a sequence number to each post Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk I have a requirement on one of my lists to add a sequence number to each post. I was wondering if anyone has advice / code to do this. I thought about adding code to resend - but this would require extra maint. each time majordomo was upgraded. I was thinking it would be better to add it to the message_fronter, but was wondering what I could use for an engine to increment the sequence number. Thank you Tom ***************************************** Tom Ozanich Cegelec ESCA * 11120 NE 33rd. Place 425.822.6800 * Bellevue, WA 98004 * * Internet: txo@esca.com * ***************************************** From majordomo-users-owner Sun Mar 1 11:25:23 1998 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-970926-1) id JAA06903; Sun, 1 Mar 1998 09:27:11 -0800 (PST) Received: from neptune.pegasus.cranfield.ac.uk (neptune.pegasus.cranfield.ac.uk [138.250.1.185]) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-980202-1) with SMTP id JAA06773 for ; Sun, 1 Mar 1998 09:26:40 -0800 (PST) Received: from nassau.pegasus.cranfield.ac.uk [138.250.1.183] by neptune.pegasus.cranfield.ac.uk with smtp (Exim 1.82 #1) id 0y9CcC-000035-00; Sun, 1 Mar 1998 17:33:28 +0000 Date: Sun, 1 Mar 1998 17:33:27 +0000 (GMT) From: Jeffrey Goldberg X-Sender: cc047@nassau.pegasus.cranfield.ac.uk Reply-To: Jeffrey Goldberg To: "JSkaggs@NAIC.ORG" cc: "(a)naic.org" Subject: Re: Response time? In-Reply-To: <0033300000255112000002L022*@MHS> Message-ID: Organization: Cranfield University Computer Centre MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk On Fri, 27 Feb 1998, JSkaggs@NAIC.ORG wrote: > What is the average response time for majordomo? Majordomo is fast and is almost never the limiting factor. It is your MTA that is the question. With most MTAs if you have a list or more than 100 or so people, it is very useful to use something like bulk_mailer or tlb. Both are described in the majordomo FAQ. Again, when to use these tools depends on your list, your connection, and your MTA. But if you are experience big delays, then these tools are for you. -j -- Jeffrey Goldberg +44 (0)1234 750 111 x 2826 Cranfield Computer Centre FAX 751 814 J.Goldberg@Cranfield.ac.uk http://WWW.Cranfield.ac.uk/public/cc/cc047/ Relativism is the triumph of authority over truth, convention over justice. From majordomo-users-owner Sun Mar 1 12:08:37 1998 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-970926-1) id LAA09585; Sun, 1 Mar 1998 11:53:03 -0800 (PST) Received: from neptune.pegasus.cranfield.ac.uk (neptune.pegasus.cranfield.ac.uk [138.250.1.185]) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-980202-1) with SMTP id LAA09411 for ; Sun, 1 Mar 1998 11:52:28 -0800 (PST) Received: from nassau.pegasus.cranfield.ac.uk [138.250.1.183] by neptune.pegasus.cranfield.ac.uk with smtp (Exim 1.82 #1) id 0y9EtU-0000mE-00; Sun, 1 Mar 1998 19:59:28 +0000 Date: Sun, 1 Mar 1998 19:59:27 +0000 (GMT) From: Jeffrey Goldberg X-Sender: cc047@nassau.pegasus.cranfield.ac.uk Reply-To: Jeffrey Goldberg To: Majordomo Users List Subject: 8bit body filtering Message-ID: Organization: Cranfield University Computer Centre MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk This, I suppose, is a perl regex question. I tried /[\128-\255]/ in taboo_body to bounce messages that contain 8bit characters in the body. This regex didn't work. It appeared to catch every line of a perfectly clean message. So, how do I do it? -j -- Jeffrey Goldberg +44 (0)1234 750 111 x 2826 Cranfield Computer Centre FAX 751 814 J.Goldberg@Cranfield.ac.uk http://WWW.Cranfield.ac.uk/public/cc/cc047/ Relativism is the triumph of authority over truth, convention over justice. From majordomo-users-owner Sun Mar 1 12:38:23 1998 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-970926-1) id MAA15263; Sun, 1 Mar 1998 12:21:25 -0800 (PST) Received: from boxoffice.rit.com ([204.182.110.26]) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-980202-1) with ESMTP id MAA15061 for ; Sun, 1 Mar 1998 12:20:37 -0800 (PST) Received: from tinhead (cafe.zipcon.net [205.199.135.209]) by boxoffice.rit.com (8.8.7/8.6.9) with SMTP id MAA26326 for ; Sun, 1 Mar 1998 12:21:25 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <3.0.3.32.19980301122342.00698654@rit.com> X-Sender: geoffr@rit.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.3 (32) X-Priority: 1 (Highest) Date: Sun, 01 Mar 1998 12:23:42 -0800 To: majordomo-users@greatcircle.com From: Geoff Reed Subject: Verifying email addresses on subscription In-Reply-To: References: <0033300000255112000002L022*@MHS> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk I'm having a little problem and I -think- it's been addressed before... (and before someone tells me to go search the archives, every time i TRY to go there the other end times out in sending me data so my web browser informs me that it cannot connect to the sddress :(:(:( ) I have a person who is subscribing an address to my lists that is invalid. I emailed the operations group at his ISP and they ahve no record of the email address that is subscribing existing, and no record of it existing in the recent past :( Is there a way I can get majordomo to log all subscription attempts, and what email address/headers from the message ?? and is there a module that will verify email addresses on subscribe and bounce subs from invalid addresses? I really don't want to have to turn on Confirm, as it refused to work right in the past for me... From majordomo-users-owner Sun Mar 1 12:48:26 1998 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-970926-1) id LAA10209; Sun, 1 Mar 1998 11:55:13 -0800 (PST) Received: from ex1.ncsa.uiuc.edu (ex1.ncsa.uiuc.edu [141.142.3.16]) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-980202-1) with ESMTP id LAA10049 for ; Sun, 1 Mar 1998 11:54:40 -0800 (PST) Received: from mx1.ncsa.uiuc.edu (mx1.ncsa.uiuc.edu [141.142.3.15]) by ex1.ncsa.uiuc.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id OAA08170; Sun, 1 Mar 1998 14:01:37 -0600 (CST) Received: from ferret.ncsa.uiuc.edu (ferret.ncsa.uiuc.edu [141.142.21.119]) by mx1.ncsa.uiuc.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id OAA26804; Sun, 1 Mar 1998 14:01:36 -0600 (CST) Received: (from lindsey@localhost) by ferret.ncsa.uiuc.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) id OAA11538; Sun, 1 Mar 1998 14:01:24 -0600 From: Christopher Lindsey Message-Id: <199803012001.OAA11538@ferret.ncsa.uiuc.edu> Subject: Re: multiple message copies... To: pevad@kudosnet.com (Paul Evad - Kudosnet Communications) Date: Sun, 1 Mar 1998 14:01:23 -0600 (CST) Cc: majordomo-users@GreatCircle.COM In-Reply-To: from "Paul Evad - Kudosnet Communications" at Feb 28, 98 04:04:07 pm Content-Type: text Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk > A list that has never acted up before... used for occassional informational > mailings. Has for some reason spit out multiple copies of the latest > message to 'some' of it's recipients. Does it continue to this? We had a similar problem on the Power Challenge Array, but this entry below from the majordomo FAQ solved the problem for us. 4.3 - Why do I get duplicate mail sent to the list? The solution for us was MMDF-specific. We used a different channel for submission and delivery, one which deliberately doesn't verify the addresses before accepting a job. We used the list-processor channel, and only had to check that the listname-request name was set properly, because list-processor insists on making listname-request the envelope "From " header name. If you're running Sendmail, this is more rare. There have been unconfirmed reports that on some systems having the queue process interval set too short can cause problems, even though sendmail is supposed to handle this. Workarounds are to increase your queue process interval (-q flag), or decrease the interval between queue checkpoints (OC flag in sendmail.cf). Chris From majordomo-users-owner Sun Mar 1 13:23:40 1998 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-970926-1) id NAA24881; Sun, 1 Mar 1998 13:14:44 -0800 (PST) Received: from sina.hpc.uh.edu (Sina.HPC.UH.EDU [129.7.3.5]) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-980202-1) with ESMTP id NAA24844 for ; Sun, 1 Mar 1998 13:14:34 -0800 (PST) Received: (from tibbs@localhost) by sina.hpc.uh.edu (8.7.3/8.7.3) id PAA03433; Sun, 1 Mar 1998 15:21:37 -0600 (CST) To: Jeffrey Goldberg Cc: Majordomo Users List Subject: Re: 8bit body filtering References: Mime-Version: 1.0 (generated by tm-edit 7.100) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII From: Jason L Tibbitts III Date: 01 Mar 1998 15:21:36 -0600 In-Reply-To: Jeffrey Goldberg's message of Sun, 1 Mar 1998 19:59:27 +0000 (GMT) Message-ID: Lines: 10 X-Mailer: Gnus v5.4.46/Emacs 19.34 Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk >>>>> "JG" == Jeffrey Goldberg writes: JG> This, I suppose, is a perl regex question. I tried JG> /[\128-\255]/ Great, except that the numbers must be either octal or hex, not decimal. (See the perlre manpage). I think you want [\x80-\xFF] or [\0200-\0377]. - J< From majordomo-users-owner Mon Mar 2 00:09:16 1998 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-970926-1) id XAA24048; Sun, 1 Mar 1998 23:16:53 -0800 (PST) Received: from miles.greatcircle.com (miles.greatcircle.com [198.102.244.45]) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-980202-1) with ESMTP id QAA25911 for ; Sun, 1 Mar 1998 16:18:07 -0800 (PST) Received: from gold.baremetal.com (baremetal.com [207.81.251.20]) by miles.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id QAA15788 for ; Sun, 1 Mar 1998 16:24:23 -0800 (PST) Received: (from uucp@localhost) by gold.baremetal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) id QAA25451; Sun, 1 Mar 1998 16:24:50 -0800 Received: from s1p26.Nanaimo.nisa.net(207.194.216.126), claiming to be "[207.194.216.126]" via SMTP by kudosnet.com, id smtpda25409; Sun Mar 1 16:24:43 1998 Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <199803012109.PAA11882@ferret.ncsa.uiuc.edu> References: from "Paul Evad - Kudosnet Communications" at Feb 28, 98 05:45:10 pm Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Sun, 1 Mar 1998 16:24:23 -0800 To: Christopher Lindsey From: Paul Evad - Kudosnet Communications Subject: Re: multiple message copies....[senmail flag] Cc: majordomo-users@GreatCircle.COM, linuxsig@baremetal.com Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk At 3:09 PM -0600 3/1/98, Christopher Lindsey wrote: >> So, someone correct me if I'm wrong. This flag in the sendmail.cf file >> basically means that if one person in a list of say 100 addresses were to >> fail.... all 100 people will get the mail again, and again, and again until >> the message fails totally? > >I think this is saying that your interpretation is true only for local >mail delivery. Anything that gets passed on to another mail relay becomes >their problem to deal with. I don't know about that. A day after we had sent the message out, I manually looked through the mail que and found a few entries of the message waiting to be resent.. they all had a number of email addresses in them, and from the looks of it... they had failed because of one address not being reachable. 99.9% of the mail was going outside of our servers.... I'm still looking into it though.... lot's of reading to do in that sendmail book. - Paul -------------------Kudosnet Communication Services-------------------- pevad@kudosnet.com www.kudosnet.com For value added web hosting and internet commerce sites http://kudosnet.com/services/ -------------879 View Rd. Qualicum Beach, Canada V9K 1N3-------------- From majordomo-users-owner Mon Mar 2 03:56:48 1998 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-970926-1) id CAA22786; Mon, 2 Mar 1998 02:07:56 -0800 (PST) Received: from neptune.pegasus.cranfield.ac.uk (neptune.pegasus.cranfield.ac.uk [138.250.1.185]) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-980202-1) with SMTP id BAA13819 for ; Mon, 2 Mar 1998 01:12:12 -0800 (PST) Received: from nassau.pegasus.cranfield.ac.uk [138.250.1.183] by neptune.pegasus.cranfield.ac.uk with smtp (Exim 1.82 #1) id 0y9RNR-0000J2-00; Mon, 2 Mar 1998 09:19:13 +0000 Date: Mon, 2 Mar 1998 09:19:08 +0000 (GMT) From: Jeffrey Goldberg X-Sender: cc047@nassau.pegasus.cranfield.ac.uk Reply-To: Jeffrey Goldberg To: Jason L Tibbitts III cc: Majordomo Users List Subject: Solution and oops: 8bit body filtering In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Organization: Cranfield University Computer Centre MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk As soon as I got home last night, I realized what I had done wrong. I used decimal where octal was expected. It was a truly silly error. Thanks to those who politely responded. For example: On 1 Mar 1998, Jason L Tibbitts III wrote: > >>>>> "JG" == Jeffrey Goldberg writes: > > JG> This, I suppose, is a perl regex question. I tried > > JG> /[\128-\255]/ > > Great, except that the numbers must be either octal or hex, not decimal. > (See the perlre manpage). I think you want [\x80-\xFF] or [\0200-\0377]. -j -- Jeffrey Goldberg +44 (0)1234 750 111 x 2826 Cranfield Computer Centre FAX 751 814 J.Goldberg@Cranfield.ac.uk http://WWW.Cranfield.ac.uk/public/cc/cc047/ Relativism is the triumph of authority over truth, convention over justice. From majordomo-users-owner Mon Mar 2 05:08:44 1998 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-970926-1) id EAA18121; Mon, 2 Mar 1998 04:08:16 -0800 (PST) Received: from miles.greatcircle.com (miles.greatcircle.com [198.102.244.45]) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-980202-1) with ESMTP id DAA12346 for ; Mon, 2 Mar 1998 03:32:27 -0800 (PST) Received: from epiphore.francenet.fr (epiphore.francenet.fr [193.149.97.10]) by miles.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id DAA27674 for ; Mon, 2 Mar 1998 03:21:45 -0800 (PST) Received: from epiphore.francenet.fr (perrot@localhost.francenet.fr [127.0.0.1]) by epiphore.francenet.fr (8.8.8/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA12275 for ; Mon, 2 Mar 1998 12:22:05 +0100 (CET) Message-Id: <199803021122.MAA12275@epiphore.francenet.fr> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0.2 2/24/98 To: majordomo-users@GreatCircle.COM Subject: how to configure "majordomo" behaviour with majordomo 1.94.4 X-Face: '%)H7X3>"mU[aaPz3aZ`^e{*DV1&W;+P-Wx*Yk)Ah[e(-AO&EB\D.gq2y{kH73Q29}_A4H,eykdf!9dj[m\gwFgZOTt?=7gI+RBN,I({A32-MyZrmtrD%8*L/boGS0,+Lj$H|@ X-Url: http://www.francenet.fr/ Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Mon, 02 Mar 1998 12:22:05 +0100 From: Gildas Perrot Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk Hi, I can't find out how to configure the particular behaviour below : - I would like to eliminate the "Majordomo results" email to a subscriber since he already receive a "Welcome to " email. - I would like to protect the who access by a password and not by a list of authorized email addresses. Thanks in advance for your help. Gildas. -- Gildas PERROT, perrot@francenet.fr __o FranceNet, 28 rue Desaix, 75015 Paris ---_ \<,_ http://www.francenet.fr ---- (_)/ (_) From majordomo-users-owner Mon Mar 2 12:44:02 1998 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-970926-1) id KAA02945; Mon, 2 Mar 1998 10:36:32 -0800 (PST) Received: from naic.org (naic.org [204.71.111.10]) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-980202-1) with ESMTP id KAA02841 for ; Mon, 2 Mar 1998 10:36:09 -0800 (PST) Received: from LMS.NAIC.ORG ([165.103.12.3]) by gateway.naic.org with SMTP id <155009>; Mon, 2 Mar 1998 12:40:31 -0600 Received: by LMS.NAIC.ORG (Soft-Switch LMS 2.0) with OAS via MSMAIL id 0033300000259124; Mon, 2 Mar 1998 12:45:39 -0600 From: "JSkaggs@NAIC.ORG" To: "(a)naic.org" Subject: Netscape sendmail Message-ID: <0033300000259124000002L042*@MHS> Date: Mon, 2 Mar 1998 12:45:39 -0600 Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk Hey, it's me again! I have a couple of questions about Netscape and Majordomo. When I ran the 'newaliases' command I received the following message: sendmail: Sendmail has been replaced with the Netscape Mail Server. All sendmail: aliases are handled internally so you no longer need to manage the sendmail: alias database or run 'newaliases'. If you have just installed sendmail: Netscape Mail Server, it has NOT been set up with aliases. sendmail: sendmail: There are three types of aliases available in Netscape Mail Server, sendmail: which are described in detail in the manual along with instructions sendmail: for setting up each type. Because of the differences, you will need sendmail: to set up your aliases manually. Is this what is making things so difficult for me? When I send a message to the server I never receive a response. I've sent 'help', 'config', 'create', and 'subscribe' messages but have received nothing. The 'majordom' user is located under 'majordomo.naic.org' but in the majordomo.cf file the $whoami is listed as 'majordomo' and the $whereami is 'naic.org'. I don't know much about majordomo, or listservers for that matter, but it makes sense to me that the $whoami should be 'majordom' and the $whereami should be 'majordomo.naic.org'. Am I incorrect in thinking that? This software was installed before I was involved and the only experience that I have with listservers is what I've done in the past couple of weeks. Any 'easy for a moron to understand' help is appreciated!! Thanks in advance!! jen From majordomo-users-owner Mon Mar 2 12:52:10 1998 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-970926-1) id LAA26133; Mon, 2 Mar 1998 11:57:50 -0800 (PST) Received: from piobaire.mines.uidaho.edu (piobaire.mines.uidaho.edu [129.101.8.252]) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-980202-1) with ESMTP id LAA25974 for ; Mon, 2 Mar 1998 11:57:10 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (keng@localhost) by piobaire.mines.uidaho.edu (8.8.3/8.6.12) with SMTP id MAA04267 for ; Mon, 2 Mar 1998 12:04:27 -0800 (PST) X-Authentication-Warning: piobaire.mines.uidaho.edu: keng owned process doing -bs Date: Mon, 2 Mar 1998 12:04:27 -0800 (PST) From: Ken Gordon X-Sender: keng@piobaire.mines.uidaho.edu To: majordomo-users@greatcircle.com Subject: Response time... Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk I am using ver 1.93, on FreeBSD ver 2.1. Response time has suddenly changed so that it is taking 26 minutes for a message I am posting to one of my own lists to get back to me. Any ideas, anyone? Ken Gordon From majordomo-users-owner Mon Mar 2 13:00:19 1998 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-970926-1) id LAA23929; Mon, 2 Mar 1998 11:50:19 -0800 (PST) Received: from Trademart-1.EDnet.NS.CA (Trademart-1.EDnet.NS.CA [142.227.51.1]) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-980202-1) with SMTP id LAA22892 for ; Mon, 2 Mar 1998 11:47:02 -0800 (PST) Received: from uucp by Trademart-1.EDnet.NS.CA with local (Exim 1.82 #3) id 0y9bG2-000Ceo-00; Mon, 2 Mar 1998 15:52:14 -0400 Received: from iolan5.ednet.ns.ca(142.227.51.15), claiming to be "ednet.ns.ca" via SMTP by Trademart-1.EDnet.NS.CA, id smtpdf0B4ya; Mon Mar 2 15:52:03 1998 Message-ID: <34FB0E18.8A083D13@ednet.ns.ca> Date: Mon, 02 Mar 1998 15:52:59 -0400 From: Patrick Boutilier X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (Win95; U) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Majordomo-Users List Subject: Suppressing digest command output [Follow-up] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk The fix I thought I had with using >/dev/null 2>&1 at the end of the digest alias does not work. It caused the digest command to completely fail. However I did check out the perl code for the digest program and found 3 instances where a print to STDERR was being performed: /usr/local/lib/majordomo-1.94.4/digest Line 54 print STDERR "Receiving $i\n"; Line 175 print STDERR "producing $V{'NAME'} V$VOLUME #$NUMBER\n"; Line 179 print STDERR "\tprocessing $message\n"; I commented these lines out and now the digest function works great without firing out text whenever it does something and therefore EXIM doesn't see the text as an error and create a bounce. Question: Why does the digest program write to STDERR in the first place? Is this for logging purposes? Also, does anybody see any problem with commenting those 3 lines out? Thanks. ------- Original Message --------- >I think I solved the problem by adding >/dev/null 2>&1 to the end of the >digest command. >:include:/var/spool/majordomo/lists/wrestle, wrestle-archive, " >|/usr/local/lib/majordomo-1.94.4/wrapper digest -R -C -l wrestle-digest >wrestle-digest-outgoing " >/dev/null 2>&1 >This causes the output from the digest command to be suppressed and Exim >doesn't report an error. -----Original Message----- From: Patrick Boutilier To: majordomo-users@GreatCircle.COM Date: Thursday, February 26, 1998 2:36 PM Subject: Suppressing digest command output >AIX 4.1.5 >Majordomo 1.94.4 >Perl 5.x >Exim 1.82 > >Relevant alias : wrestle-outgoing: >:include:/var/spool/majordomo/lists/wrestle, wrestle-archive, " >|/usr/local/lib/majordomo-1.94.4/wrapper digest -R -C -l wrestle-digest >wrestle-digest-outgoing " > > > > >Is there any way of suppressing the text output that the digest command >produces? My problem is that I just switched from Sendmail to Exim and I >keep getting this error when a message is sent to a list that is also >digested. > > > > > This message was created automatically by mail delivery software. > >A message that you sent could not be delivered to all of its recipients. >The following address(es) failed: > > wrestle-outgoing@EDnet.NS.CA: > generated |/usr/local/lib/majordomo-1.94.4/wrapper digest -R -C -l >wrestle-digest wrestle-digest-outgoing > >The following text was generated during the delivery attempt: > >------ |/usr/local/lib/majordomo-1.94.4/wrapper digest -R -C -l >wrestle-digest wrestle-digest-outgoing ------ > >Receiving 13 > >------ This is a copy of the message, including all the headers. ------ > > > > > >The Receiving 13 part is the number of messages in the digest directory. >The digesting actually still works but for every message sent one of these >messages is sent back to the list-owner. Any ideas? > From majordomo-users-owner Mon Mar 2 13:01:37 1998 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-970926-1) id KAA04735; Mon, 2 Mar 1998 10:42:52 -0800 (PST) Received: from piobaire.mines.uidaho.edu (piobaire.mines.uidaho.edu [129.101.8.252]) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-980202-1) with ESMTP id KAA04597 for ; Mon, 2 Mar 1998 10:42:23 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (keng@localhost) by piobaire.mines.uidaho.edu (8.8.3/8.6.12) with SMTP id KAA02192 for ; Mon, 2 Mar 1998 10:49:27 -0800 (PST) X-Authentication-Warning: piobaire.mines.uidaho.edu: keng owned process doing -bs Date: Mon, 2 Mar 1998 10:49:27 -0800 (PST) From: Ken Gordon X-Sender: keng@piobaire.mines.uidaho.edu To: majordomo-users@greatcircle.com Subject: Permission weirdness... Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk I am using Majordomo ver 1.93. The system was working correctly as of this weekend. Suddenly, majordomo no longer recognizes the aliases I have set up for the various list owners. What is wrong? I DID add a GROUP, in addition to a user, as one of the list-owners of one particular list. I used the form, ,. Could that be the problem? Ken Gordon From majordomo-users-owner Mon Mar 2 13:41:54 1998 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-970926-1) id JAA22469; Mon, 2 Mar 1998 09:38:54 -0800 (PST) Received: from piobaire.mines.uidaho.edu (piobaire.mines.uidaho.edu [129.101.8.252]) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-980202-1) with ESMTP id JAA22451 for ; Mon, 2 Mar 1998 09:38:45 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (keng@localhost) by piobaire.mines.uidaho.edu (8.8.3/8.6.12) with SMTP id JAA00901 for ; Mon, 2 Mar 1998 09:45:54 -0800 (PST) X-Authentication-Warning: piobaire.mines.uidaho.edu: keng owned process doing -bs Date: Mon, 2 Mar 1998 09:45:44 -0800 (PST) From: Ken Gordon X-Sender: keng@piobaire.mines.uidaho.edu To: majordomo-users@greatcircle.com Subject: Permissions problem... Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk Lately, I have been having REALLY WEIRD problems with permissions in majordomo only. I think it may have something to do with the config file for each list, but am not sure. I am using ver 1.93 to administer several lists. I have set the mode on the .passwd files at 700, and since yesterday, none of the list owners can access their .passwd files, even to READ them. I have tried to set the mode to 760 and to 770 and still no dice. Aliases have NOT been changed. Is there some setting in the .config file which effects this? Ken Gordon From majordomo-users-owner Mon Mar 2 13:54:05 1998 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-970926-1) id NAA11040; Mon, 2 Mar 1998 13:43:47 -0800 (PST) Received: from jericho.gospelcom.net (mail.gospelcom.net [204.253.132.2]) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-980202-1) with ESMTP id NAA10988 for ; Mon, 2 Mar 1998 13:43:13 -0800 (PST) Received: from tarsus.gf.gospelcom.net (jabbok.gospelcom.net [204.253.132.4]) by jericho.gospelcom.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id QAA00243 for ; Mon, 2 Mar 1998 16:50:03 -0500 Date: Mon, 2 Mar 1998 16:43:49 -0500 (EST) From: Topher X-Sender: topher@tarsus.gf.gospelcom.net To: majordomo-users@GreatCircle.COM Subject: selective who Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk Is it possible to do something like a grep via e-mail? I'd like to do a "who" command with a variable, so I can see how many topher's there are, or what addresses are on the list from *mk.cc.us Topher Tech Support topher@gospelcom.net Gospel Communications Network From majordomo-users-owner Mon Mar 2 14:08:47 1998 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-970926-1) id OAA14043; Mon, 2 Mar 1998 14:01:05 -0800 (PST) Received: from gauntlet.newschool.edu (gauntlet.newschool.edu [149.31.1.100]) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-980202-1) with SMTP id OAA14008 for ; Mon, 2 Mar 1998 14:00:54 -0800 (PST) Received: by gauntlet.newschool.edu; id QAA18630; Mon, 2 Mar 1998 16:27:34 -0500 Received: from unknown(149.31.5.22) by gauntlet.newschool.edu via smap (3.2) id xma018606; Mon, 2 Mar 98 16:27:29 -0500 Received: from NEW_SCHOOL-Message_Server by newschool.edu with Novell_GroupWise; Mon, 02 Mar 1998 17:08:50 -0500 Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise 4.1 Date: Mon, 02 Mar 1998 17:08:08 -0500 From: Frank Rizulo To: majordomo-users@greatcircle.com Subject: Re: Reply-to? Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Disposition: inline Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk With all the talk of Reply-to, I can't find the syntax t to use if I do want replies to go to the list. I read the FAQ, but I couldn't find out how to do it, only that you shouldn't do it. That sparked my interest. I tried reply_to = $LIST That doesn't seem to work. Would someone please help me out. I'd like to check in on this controversy first hand. Thanks, Frank Rizulo rizulof@newschool.edu From majordomo-users-owner Mon Mar 2 15:53:42 1998 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-970926-1) id PAA05892; Mon, 2 Mar 1998 15:47:14 -0800 (PST) Received: from dt0a0n50.tampabay.rr.com (dt0a0n50.tampabay.rr.com [24.92.23.80]) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-980202-1) with SMTP id PAA05741 for ; Mon, 2 Mar 1998 15:46:38 -0800 (PST) Received: from [127.0.0.1] (HELO [24.92.23.80]) by dt0a0n50.tampabay.rr.com (Stalker SMTP Server 1.5) with ESMTP id S.0000303274; Mon, 02 Mar 1998 18:53:36 -0500 Message-Id: In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Mon, 2 Mar 1998 18:50:25 -0500 To: Frank Rizulo , majordomo-users@greatcircle.com From: David Smith Subject: Re: Reply-to? Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk At 5:08 PM -0500 3/2/98, Frank Rizulo wrote: >With all the talk of Reply-to, I can't find the syntax t to use if I do want >replies to go to the list. I read the FAQ, but I couldn't find out how to do >it, only that you shouldn't do it. That sparked my interest. > >I tried reply_to = $LIST >That doesn't seem to work. Would someone please help me out. I'd like >to check in on this controversy first hand. reply_to = listname@host.domain you need to fully qualify it as it is substituted directly. -------------- David A. Smith The box said: "Needs Windows 3.1 or better," so I bought a Macintosh. From majordomo-users-owner Mon Mar 2 17:24:26 1998 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-970926-1) id RAA23609; Mon, 2 Mar 1998 17:09:26 -0800 (PST) Received: from bunker.grsoc.gordon.army.mil (bunker.grsoc.gordon.army.mil [147.51.59.2]) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-980202-1) with ESMTP id QAA14912 for ; Mon, 2 Mar 1998 16:27:19 -0800 (PST) Received: by bunker.grsoc.gordon.army.mil; id AAA24963; Tue, 3 Mar 1998 00:34:30 GMT Received: from bogey.grsoc.gordon.army.mil(147.51.62.25) by bunker.grsoc.gordon.army.mil via smap (V2.0beta) id xma024955; Tue, 3 Mar 98 00:34:26 GMT Received: by grsoc.gordon.army.mil (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id AAA23757; Tue, 3 Mar 1998 00:48:01 GMT Date: Tue, 3 Mar 1998 00:48:01 GMT From: barryb@grsoc.gordon.army.mil (Bridget E. Barry) Message-Id: <199803030048.AAA23757@grsoc.gordon.army.mil> To: majordomo-users@GreatCircle.COM Subject: Cannot Un$ub$cribe X-Sun-Charset: US-ASCII Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk Help, I am running Majordomo version 1.94.3, Solaris 2.5.1, Perl5.003. I can $ub$cribe without any problems. I cannot un$ub$cribe anyone from any list. When I try I get this message: MAJORDOMO ABORT (mj_majordomo)!! chown(50, 12, "/data/majordomo/Lists/listname.new") : Not owner The permissions for the list have been set at 777 for directories and 666 for all the files. I am the owner of the lists, and it still gives me that error. Any help would be greatly appreciated Thanks - Bridget Barry From majordomo-users-owner Mon Mar 2 17:38:37 1998 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-970926-1) id RAA23788; Mon, 2 Mar 1998 17:10:24 -0800 (PST) Received: from miles.greatcircle.com (miles.greatcircle.com [198.102.244.45]) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-980202-1) with ESMTP id QAA07888 for ; Mon, 2 Mar 1998 16:02:45 -0800 (PST) Received: from ayla.idyllmtn.com (ayla.idyllmtn.com [206.16.238.1]) by miles.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA10525 for ; Mon, 2 Mar 1998 15:09:20 -0800 (PST) Received: from grev.idyllmtn.com ([134.173.9.242]) by ayla.idyllmtn.com (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id PAA02412; Mon, 2 Mar 1998 15:03:48 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.19980302151305.00b5d8d0@mail.idyllmtn.com> X-Sender: kynn@mail.idyllmtn.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.5 (32) Date: Mon, 02 Mar 1998 15:13:05 -0800 To: Topher From: Kynn Bartlett Subject: Re: selective who Cc: majordomo-users@greatcircle.com In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk At 04:43 p.m. 03/02/98 -0500, Topher wrote: >Is it possible to do something like a grep via e-mail? I'd like to do a >"who" command with a variable, so I can see how many topher's there are, >or what addresses are on the list from *mk.cc.us Please read the documentation on Majordomo. Thanks! -- _ __ * Owner, Idyll Mountain Internet | / / _ _ ._ _ ._ _ * Web Manager, Claremont Graduate Univ. | \ | | || ' || ' | * Board Member, HTML Writers Guild |_\_\`_. ||_|_||_|_| * Postmaster, MLists.com <___' * Co-Coordinator, Virtual Dog Show kynn@idyllmtn.com * Opera Web Browser Evangelist: www.idyllmtn.com/~kynn * http://www.operasoftware.com/ From majordomo-users-owner Mon Mar 2 17:44:02 1998 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-970926-1) id QAA16497; Mon, 2 Mar 1998 16:33:02 -0800 (PST) Received: from miles.greatcircle.com (miles.greatcircle.com [198.102.244.45]) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-980202-1) with ESMTP id QAA16185 for ; Mon, 2 Mar 1998 16:31:40 -0800 (PST) Received: from imo24.mail.aol.com (imo24.mx.aol.com [198.81.19.152]) by miles.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id QAA12195 for ; Mon, 2 Mar 1998 16:10:11 -0800 (PST) Received: from BZETS@aol.com by imo24.mx.aol.com (IMOv13.ems) id PWUDa10081 for ; Mon, 2 Mar 1998 19:10:33 -0500 (EST) From: BZETS Message-ID: <96eb7a79.34fb4a7b@aol.com> Date: Mon, 2 Mar 1998 19:10:33 EST To: majordomo-users@GreatCircle.COM Mime-Version: 1.0 Subject: bandit-talk-request Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 3.0 for Windows 95 sub 58 Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk How to I stop getting e-mail from majordomo basndit-talk-request ? bzets@aol.com From majordomo-users-owner Mon Mar 2 18:43:25 1998 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-970926-1) id SAA13205; Mon, 2 Mar 1998 18:35:48 -0800 (PST) Received: from server.rds.org.gt ([168.234.68.22]) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-980202-1) with ESMTP id RAA02332 for ; Mon, 2 Mar 1998 17:43:32 -0800 (PST) Received: from wako (wako.rds.org.gt [168.234.69.131]) by server.rds.org.gt (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id UAA15808 for ; Mon, 2 Mar 1998 20:01:19 -0600 From: "Joel Arriaza" To: Subject: About "To: majordomo-users@greatcircle.com" Date: Mon, 2 Mar 1998 19:48:55 -0600 Message-ID: <01bd4646$864dc2a0$8345eaa8@wako.rds.org.gt> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="x-user-defined" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.71.1712.3 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.71.1712.3 Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk Hi all, As you can see in all messages that you receive from this list have a the "To: majordomo-users@greatcircle.com" in it's header. Is it posible to change it, for example from "To: majordomo-users@greatcircle.com" to "To: Majordomo Users arround the World". I don't mean that this name most be changed but I want to change it in my lists, this is just an example to be clear. Thanks, Joel Arriaza. From majordomo-users-owner Mon Mar 2 18:53:44 1998 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-970926-1) id SAA10341; Mon, 2 Mar 1998 18:19:46 -0800 (PST) Received: from mermaid.shore.net (mermaid.shore.net [207.244.124.6]) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-980202-1) with SMTP id SAA10334 for ; Mon, 2 Mar 1998 18:19:40 -0800 (PST) Received: from smoe.org [204.167.97.154] (jeffw) by mermaid.shore.net with esmtp (Exim) id 0y9hPu-0000gu-00; Mon, 2 Mar 1998 21:26:50 -0500 Received: (from jeffw@localhost) by smoe.org (8.8.7/8.8.7/daemon-mode-relay2) id VAA24739; Mon, 2 Mar 1998 21:29:08 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <19980302212907.25842@smoe.org> Date: Mon, 2 Mar 1998 21:29:07 -0500 From: Jeff Wasilko To: Francis Vidal Cc: majordomo-users@GreatCircle.COM Subject: Re: BOUNCE command References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.76 In-Reply-To: ; from "Francis Vidal" on Tue, Mar 03, 1998 at 10:07:06AM +0800 Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk On Tue, Mar 03, 1998 at 10:07:06AM +0800, Francis Vidal wrote: > hello everyone! > > i remembered reading a HOWTO about setting up a bounced list and using > the 'bounce' command. can someone point me to a URL of similar nature? > thanks! Please check the archives at http://www.hpc.uh.edu/majordomo-users/ A search for 'bounce list' will answer your question, since I just answered it last month... -jeff From majordomo-users-owner Mon Mar 2 19:08:53 1998 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-970926-1) id SAA07340; Mon, 2 Mar 1998 18:02:26 -0800 (PST) Received: from miles.greatcircle.com (miles.greatcircle.com [198.102.244.45]) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-980202-1) with ESMTP id SAA07122 for ; Mon, 2 Mar 1998 18:01:40 -0800 (PST) Received: from cody.usls.edu ([202.47.133.45]) by miles.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id SAA14065 for ; Mon, 2 Mar 1998 18:06:54 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (francis@localhost) by cody.usls.edu (8.8.8/8.8.5) with SMTP id KAA00336 for ; Tue, 3 Mar 1998 10:07:06 +0800 (PHT) Date: Tue, 3 Mar 1998 10:07:06 +0800 (PHT) From: Francis Vidal To: majordomo-users@greatcircle.com Subject: BOUNCE command Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk hello everyone! i remembered reading a HOWTO about setting up a bounced list and using the 'bounce' command. can someone point me to a URL of similar nature? thanks! --- francis vidal | usls.NET | university of st. la salle, bacolod city, PH PGP key available at ftp://ftp.usls.edu/pub/pgpkeys/francis.pgp "birds of the same feathers are birds!" - rhoderick samonte's class From majordomo-users-owner Mon Mar 2 19:25:29 1998 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-970926-1) id TAA24608; Mon, 2 Mar 1998 19:15:15 -0800 (PST) Received: from jericho.gospelcom.net (mail.gospelcom.net [204.253.132.2]) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-980202-1) with ESMTP id PAA28032 for ; Mon, 2 Mar 1998 15:08:13 -0800 (PST) Received: from tarsus.gf.gospelcom.net (jabbok.gospelcom.net [204.253.132.4]) by jericho.gospelcom.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id SAA03415; Mon, 2 Mar 1998 18:15:20 -0500 Date: Mon, 2 Mar 1998 18:09:09 -0500 (EST) From: Topher X-Sender: topher@tarsus.gf.gospelcom.net To: Kynn Bartlett cc: majordomo-users@GreatCircle.COM Subject: Re: selective who In-Reply-To: <3.0.5.32.19980302151305.00b5d8d0@mail.idyllmtn.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk > At 04:43 p.m. 03/02/98 -0500, Topher wrote: > >Is it possible to do something like a grep via e-mail? I'd like to do a > >"who" command with a variable, so I can see how many topher's there are, > >or what addresses are on the list from *mk.cc.us > > Please read the documentation on Majordomo. Thanks! I read the FAQ and a whole slew of README's, could you perhaps point me to one in particular? Topher Tech Support topher@gospelcom.net Gospel Communications Network From majordomo-users-owner Mon Mar 2 19:40:28 1998 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-970926-1) id TAA23772; Mon, 2 Mar 1998 19:12:02 -0800 (PST) Received: from mailnfs0.tiac.net (mailnfs0.tiac.net [199.0.65.17]) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-980202-1) with ESMTP id TAA23527 for ; Mon, 2 Mar 1998 19:11:09 -0800 (PST) Received: from www.hollyfeld.org (root@dns.hollyfeld.org [204.130.199.1]) by mailnfs0.tiac.net (8.8.7/8.8) with ESMTP id WAA14894; Mon, 2 Mar 1998 22:18:21 -0500 (EST) Received: from www.hollyfeld.org (www.hollyfeld.org [204.130.199.143]) by www.hollyfeld.org (8.8.4/8.8.4) with SMTP id WAA09643; Mon, 2 Mar 1998 22:17:03 -0500 Date: Mon, 2 Mar 1998 22:17:03 -0500 (EST) From: Daniel Garcia To: BZETS cc: majordomo-users@GreatCircle.COM Subject: Re: bandit-talk-request In-Reply-To: <96eb7a79.34fb4a7b@aol.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk Here's a hint, trying mailing the owner of the list - back on HIS SITE. This is a mailing list for managers of majordomo mailing lists - and NOT a place for you to whine about messages you are recieving from a particular site running majordomo. Odds are, the admin for the mailing list that is bugging you isn't even on majordomo-users, and even if he is, the odds are slim to none that he will notice your message. Think in the future before sending things like this out --Dg On Mon, 2 Mar 1998, BZETS wrote: > How to I stop getting e-mail from majordomo basndit-talk-request ? > bzets@aol.com > From majordomo-users-owner Mon Mar 2 19:52:30 1998 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-970926-1) id TAA24609; Mon, 2 Mar 1998 19:15:21 -0800 (PST) Received: from miles.greatcircle.com (miles.greatcircle.com [198.102.244.45]) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-980202-1) with ESMTP id OAA20265 for ; Mon, 2 Mar 1998 14:31:47 -0800 (PST) Received: from siren.shore.net (siren.shore.net [207.244.124.5]) by miles.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id OAA09054 for ; Mon, 2 Mar 1998 14:35:51 -0800 (PST) Received: from smoe.org [204.167.97.154] (jeffw) by siren.shore.net with esmtp (Exim) id 0y9dor-00017I-00; Mon, 2 Mar 1998 17:36:21 -0500 Received: (from jeffw@localhost) by smoe.org (8.8.7/8.8.7/daemon-mode-relay2) id RAA21125; Mon, 2 Mar 1998 17:38:38 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <19980302173837.30345@smoe.org> Date: Mon, 2 Mar 1998 17:38:37 -0500 From: Jeff Wasilko To: Frank Rizulo Cc: majordomo-users@GreatCircle.COM Subject: Re: Reply-to? References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.76 In-Reply-To: ; from "Frank Rizulo" on Mon, Mar 02, 1998 at 05:08:08PM -0500 Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk On Mon, Mar 02, 1998 at 05:08:08PM -0500, Frank Rizulo wrote: > With all the talk of Reply-to, I can't find the syntax t to use if I do want > replies to go to the list. I read the FAQ, but I couldn't find out how to do > it, only that you shouldn't do it. That sparked my interest. > > I tried reply_to = $LIST > That doesn't seem to work. Would someone please help me out. I'd like > to check in on this controversy first hand. I don't know where you got the idea that you can use $LIST. You have to actually enter the fully qualified name of the list there. Jeff From majordomo-users-owner Mon Mar 2 19:53:40 1998 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-970926-1) id TAA25678; Mon, 2 Mar 1998 19:24:50 -0800 (PST) Received: from whoweb.com (secureguard.net [208.144.211.150]) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-980202-1) with ESMTP id TAA25633 for ; Mon, 2 Mar 1998 19:24:39 -0800 (PST) Received: (from root@localhost) by whoweb.com (8.8.8/8.8.6) id WAA06428 for majordomo-users@GreatCircle.COM; Mon, 2 Mar 1998 22:29:29 -0500 (EST) Date: Mon, 2 Mar 1998 22:29:29 -0500 (EST) From: Jonathan Wallace Message-Id: <199803030329.WAA06428@whoweb.com> To: majordomo-users@GreatCircle.COM Subject: Re: selective who Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk >>At 04:43 p.m. 03/02/98 -0500, Topher wrote: >>Is it possible to do something like a grep via e-mail? I'd like to do a >>"who" command with a variable, so I can see how many topher's there are, >>or what addresses are on the list from *mk.cc.us > >Please read the documentation on Majordomo. Thanks! > > _ __ * Owner, Idyll Mountain Internet > | / / _ _ ._ _ ._ _ * Web Manager, Claremont Graduate Univ. > | \ | | || ' || ' | * Board Member, HTML Writers Guild > |_\_\`_. ||_|_||_|_| * Postmaster, MLists.com > <___' * Co-Coordinator, Virtual Dog Show > kynn@idyllmtn.com * Opera Web Browser Evangelist: > www.idyllmtn.com/~kynn * http://www.operasoftware.com/ Which document. A grep of "who", "grep", "regular", and "expression" of the documentation and majordomo man page doesn't turn up anything on the subject. From majordomo-users-owner Mon Mar 2 20:09:03 1998 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-970926-1) id TAA28359; Mon, 2 Mar 1998 19:41:34 -0800 (PST) Received: from siren.shore.net (siren.shore.net [207.244.124.5]) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-980202-1) with SMTP id TAA28352 for ; Mon, 2 Mar 1998 19:41:27 -0800 (PST) Received: from smoe.org [204.167.97.154] (jeffw) by siren.shore.net with esmtp (Exim) id 0y9ih7-0000HK-00; Mon, 2 Mar 1998 22:48:42 -0500 Received: (from jeffw@localhost) by smoe.org (8.8.7/8.8.7/daemon-mode-relay2) id WAA25612; Mon, 2 Mar 1998 22:50:58 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <19980302225057.13498@smoe.org> Date: Mon, 2 Mar 1998 22:50:57 -0500 From: Jeff Wasilko To: Topher Cc: majordomo-users@GreatCircle.COM Subject: Re: selective who References: <3.0.5.32.19980302151305.00b5d8d0@mail.idyllmtn.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.76 In-Reply-To: ; from "Topher" on Mon, Mar 02, 1998 at 06:09:09PM -0500 Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk On Mon, Mar 02, 1998 at 06:09:09PM -0500, Topher wrote: > > At 04:43 p.m. 03/02/98 -0500, Topher wrote: > > >Is it possible to do something like a grep via e-mail? I'd like to do a > > >"who" command with a variable, so I can see how many topher's there are, > > >or what addresses are on the list from *mk.cc.us > > > > Please read the documentation on Majordomo. Thanks! > > I read the FAQ and a whole slew of README's, could you perhaps point me to > one in particular? Does the `which` command not work for you for some reason? -Jeff From majordomo-users-owner Mon Mar 2 20:20:20 1998 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-970926-1) id TAA26860; Mon, 2 Mar 1998 19:33:11 -0800 (PST) Received: from ayla.idyllmtn.com (ayla.idyllmtn.com [206.16.238.1]) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-980202-1) with ESMTP id TAA20919 for ; Mon, 2 Mar 1998 19:02:33 -0800 (PST) Received: from grev.idyllmtn.com (kynn.bur.primenet.com [207.218.52.159]) by ayla.idyllmtn.com (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id SAA06369; Mon, 2 Mar 1998 18:58:42 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.19980302190754.0091c3f0@mail.idyllmtn.com> X-Sender: kynn@mail.idyllmtn.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.5 (32) Date: Mon, 02 Mar 1998 19:07:54 -0800 To: "Joel Arriaza" From: Kynn Bartlett Subject: Re: About "To: majordomo-users@greatcircle.com" Cc: In-Reply-To: <01bd4646$864dc2a0$8345eaa8@wako.rds.org.gt> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk At 07:48 p.m. 03/02/98 -0600, Joel Arriaza wrote: >Hi all, >As you can see in all messages that you receive from this list have a the >"To: majordomo-users@greatcircle.com" in it's header. > >Is it posible to change it, for example from "To: >majordomo-users@greatcircle.com" to "To: Majordomo Users arround the World". > >I don't mean that this name most be changed but I want to change it in my >lists, this is just an example to be clear. Read the list archives. It's been talked about many times, and ultimately it comes down to "why on earth would you want to do this"? Note that this message doesn't have majordomo-users in the To: line, but rather the CC: line, BTW. -- _ __ * Owner, Idyll Mountain Internet | / / _ _ ._ _ ._ _ * Web Manager, Claremont Graduate Univ. | \ | | || ' || ' | * Board Member, HTML Writers Guild |_\_\`_. ||_|_||_|_| * Postmaster, MLists.com <___' * Co-Coordinator, Virtual Dog Show kynn@idyllmtn.com * Opera Web Browser Evangelist: www.idyllmtn.com/~kynn * http://www.operasoftware.com/ From majordomo-users-owner Mon Mar 2 22:53:35 1998 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-970926-1) id UAA12576; Mon, 2 Mar 1998 20:59:00 -0800 (PST) Received: from coyote.rain.org (coyote.rain.org [198.68.144.2]) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-980202-1) with ESMTP id UAA12540 for ; Mon, 2 Mar 1998 20:58:44 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (snowe@localhost) by coyote.rain.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id VAA20782 for ; Mon, 2 Mar 1998 21:05:54 -0800 (PST) Date: Mon, 2 Mar 1998 21:05:53 -0800 (PST) From: Nick Halloway cc: majordomo-users@GreatCircle.COM Subject: Re: About "To: majordomo-users@greatcircle.com" In-Reply-To: <3.0.5.32.19980302190754.0091c3f0@mail.idyllmtn.com> Message-ID: x-no-archive: yes MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk On Mon, 2 Mar 1998, Kynn Bartlett wrote: > At 07:48 p.m. 03/02/98 -0600, Joel Arriaza wrote: > >Is it posible to change it, for example from "To: > >majordomo-users@greatcircle.com" to "To: Majordomo Users arround the World". > Read the list archives. It's been talked about many times, and > ultimately it comes down to "why on earth would you want to > do this"? I do this -- I have a list that is a filtered version of sci.math. The return address of the list is gated to sci.math. So, people responding to postings are directed to the gateway, rather than to the list. There are different moderation policies going into the list versus people responding to things -- the postings that go to the list are carefully chosen, while people can send things back through the gateway at their discretion. I send postings to the list address with the To: header sent to the gateway and an Approved: header on top. From majordomo-users-owner Mon Mar 2 23:08:44 1998 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-970926-1) id WAA06950; Mon, 2 Mar 1998 22:42:27 -0800 (PST) Received: from krumm.commline.com (krumm.commline.com [207.78.30.252]) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-980202-1) with ESMTP id WAA06785 for ; Mon, 2 Mar 1998 22:41:56 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (dmbong@localhost) by krumm.commline.com (8.8.5/8.8.3) with SMTP id BAA01900; Tue, 3 Mar 1998 01:49:07 -0500 (EST) Date: Tue, 3 Mar 1998 01:49:06 -0500 (EST) From: "Brian L. Heess" To: Patrick Boutilier cc: Majordomo-Users List Subject: Re: Suppressing digest command output [Follow-up] In-Reply-To: <34FB0E18.8A083D13@ednet.ns.ca> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk On Mon, 2 Mar 1998, Patrick Boutilier wrote: > Question: Why does the digest program write to STDERR in the first > place? Is this for logging purposes? Also, does anybody see any problem > with commenting those 3 lines out? Thanks. So that things like this: 59 23 * * * echo mkdigest mantis-digest %$&#@|/usr/lib/sendmail -v majordomo produce output and you get a visual confirmation (or an error) from cron when the job runs. The only problem I see is that if you have errors you'll probably never know it. Cheers! -Brian From majordomo-users-owner Mon Mar 2 23:27:24 1998 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-970926-1) id WAA26123; Mon, 2 Mar 1998 22:06:07 -0800 (PST) Received: from ncr-sd.SanDiegoCA.NCR.COM (h153-64-251-18.NCR.COM [153.64.251.18]) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-980202-1) with ESMTP id VAA16035 for ; Mon, 2 Mar 1998 21:17:12 -0800 (PST) Received: from jabberwocky (jabberwocky.SanDiegoCA.NCR.COM [153.64.69.123]) by ncr-sd.SanDiegoCA.NCR.COM (8.8.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id VAA03009; Mon, 2 Mar 1998 21:23:40 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <199803030523.VAA03009@ncr-sd.SanDiegoCA.NCR.COM> X-Sender: bhoule@www.sandiegoca.ncr.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.0 Date: Mon, 02 Mar 1998 21:22:42 -0800 To: Jeff Wasilko , Frank Rizulo From: Bill Houle Subject: Re: Reply-to? Cc: majordomo-users@GreatCircle.COM In-Reply-To: <19980302173837.30345@smoe.org> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk At 05:38 PM 3/2/98 -0500, Jeff Wasilko wrote: >> >> I tried reply_to = $LIST > >I don't know where you got the idea that you can use $LIST. You >have to actually enter the fully qualified name of the list >there. It's not an unreasonable assumption. You can use $SENDER in fronter/footers as well as in reply_to. The same $config'substitute_values function is called regardless, and it knows about $SENDER, $LIST, and $VERSION. So it's not that odd to assume $LIST can be used as such. I can't vouch as to whether it works or not, but the premise for wondering is sound. --bill From majordomo-users-owner Mon Mar 2 23:34:56 1998 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-970926-1) id WAA26151; Mon, 2 Mar 1998 22:06:32 -0800 (PST) Received: from mermaid.shore.net (mermaid.shore.net [207.244.124.6]) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-980202-1) with SMTP id VAA18475 for ; Mon, 2 Mar 1998 21:28:33 -0800 (PST) Received: from smoe.org [204.167.97.154] (jeffw) by mermaid.shore.net with esmtp (Exim) id 0y9kMi-0005mE-00; Tue, 3 Mar 1998 00:35:45 -0500 Received: (from jeffw@localhost) by smoe.org (8.8.7/8.8.7/daemon-mode-relay2) id AAA27606; Tue, 3 Mar 1998 00:38:03 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <19980303003801.57280@smoe.org> Date: Tue, 3 Mar 1998 00:38:01 -0500 From: Jeff Wasilko To: Bill Houle Cc: Frank Rizulo , majordomo-users@GreatCircle.COM Subject: Re: Reply-to? References: <199803030523.VAA03009@ncr-sd.SanDiegoCA.NCR.COM> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.76 In-Reply-To: <199803030523.VAA03009@ncr-sd.SanDiegoCA.NCR.COM>; from "Bill Houle" on Mon, Mar 02, 1998 at 09:22:42PM -0800 Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk On Mon, Mar 02, 1998 at 09:22:42PM -0800, Bill Houle wrote: > At 05:38 PM 3/2/98 -0500, Jeff Wasilko wrote: > >> > >> I tried reply_to = $LIST > > > >I don't know where you got the idea that you can use $LIST. You > >have to actually enter the fully qualified name of the list > >there. > > It's not an unreasonable assumption. You can use $SENDER in fronter/footers > as well as in reply_to. The same $config'substitute_values function is > called regardless, and it knows about $SENDER, $LIST, and $VERSION. So it's > not that odd to assume $LIST can be used as such. I can't vouch as to > whether it works or not, but the premise for wondering is sound. I always just look in the config file, as each keyword seems reliably list what variables is can use, as well as what programs use each keyword. -Jeff From majordomo-users-owner Mon Mar 2 23:42:46 1998 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-970926-1) id UAA06652; Mon, 2 Mar 1998 20:30:21 -0800 (PST) Received: from Kitten.mcs.com (Kitten.mcs.com [192.160.127.90]) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-980202-1) with ESMTP id UAA06631 for ; Mon, 2 Mar 1998 20:30:13 -0800 (PST) Received: from Uucp1.mcs.net (root@Uucp1.mcs.net [192.160.127.93]) by Kitten.mcs.com (8.8.7/8.8.2) with SMTP id WAA25792 for ; Mon, 2 Mar 1998 22:37:28 -0600 (CST) Received: by Uucp1.mcs.net (/\==/\ Smail3.1.28.1 #28.17) id ; Mon, 2 Mar 98 22:37 CST Received: from david (david [10.168.100.1]) by midrange.com (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id WAA01784 for ; Mon, 2 Mar 1998 22:31:08 -0600 Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.19980302222256.008152e0@midrange> X-Sender: david@midrange X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.5 (32) Date: Mon, 02 Mar 1998 22:22:56 -0600 To: Majordomo Users Mailing List From: David Gibbs Subject: MAJORDOMO ABORT (mj_digest) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk Greetings! Can anyone point me to where this might be comming from? thanks! david >X-POP3-Rcpt: david@midrange >Date: Mon, 2 Mar 1998 22:20:35 -0600 >From: majordomo-owner >To: majordomo-owner >Subject: MAJORDOMO ABORT (mj_digest) >Reply-To: majordomo-owner > >-- > > >MAJORDOMO ABORT (mj_digest)!! > >shlock: '' does not exist > > -- | Internet: david@midrange.com | WWW: http://www.mcs.net/~gibbs | | ... A man can move mountains, a world can be turned, | and the greatest of distances easily spanned, | When the strength that's invested in making a fist | is transformed into shaking a hand. | | - DMRoth | | Fight Spam! Join CAUCE! == http://www.cauce.org/ From majordomo-users-owner Tue Mar 3 04:09:49 1998 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-970926-1) id DAA12327; Tue, 3 Mar 1998 03:44:24 -0800 (PST) Received: from neptune.pegasus.cranfield.ac.uk (neptune.pegasus.cranfield.ac.uk [138.250.1.185]) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-980202-1) with SMTP id CAA28515 for ; Tue, 3 Mar 1998 02:35:54 -0800 (PST) Received: from nassau.pegasus.cranfield.ac.uk [138.250.1.183] by neptune.pegasus.cranfield.ac.uk with smtp (Exim 1.82 #1) id 0y9p9S-00061M-00; Tue, 3 Mar 1998 10:42:22 +0000 Date: Tue, 3 Mar 1998 10:42:16 +0000 (GMT) From: Jeffrey Goldberg X-Sender: cc047@nassau.pegasus.cranfield.ac.uk Reply-To: Jeffrey Goldberg To: Patrick Boutilier cc: Majordomo Users List , Exim List Subject: Re: [EXIM] Using Majordomo digests and Exim 1.82 In-Reply-To: <34FB0CCC.646490E2@ednet.ns.ca> Message-ID: Organization: Cranfield University Computer Centre MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk [I'm cc'ing my response to the majordomo users list. The original was posted on the exim users list] On Mon, 2 Mar 1998, Patrick Boutilier wrote: > I ran into a problem using the digest program that comes with Majordomo > 1.94.4 and Exim 1.82. What was happening was everytime the digest > program ran it spit out some text that Exim was interpreting as an error > so it would bounce to the list owner. The digest stuff still did what it > was suppossed to but everytime a message was sent to a digested list the > owner would get a bounce. > > I solved this problem by editing the perl code for the following > program: Not necessary. The pipe transport for exim has the options return_output and return_fail_output. My reading of the manual suggests that you should set return_fail_output = yes return_output = no for the pipe transport that you use for majordomo related tools (or maybe for all pipe transports). This will set things so that messages to stdout or stderr from the pipe will not be sent as an error if the process exits with a 0 error status. > [MD changes omitted] > Question: Has anybody else come accross this problem and if so what did > you do to fix it? Just wondering if there was some Exim option that I > could have used or changed. Thanks. I first noticed exactly this behavior with mhonarc. -j -- Jeffrey Goldberg +44 (0)1234 750 111 x 2826 Cranfield Computer Centre FAX 751 814 J.Goldberg@Cranfield.ac.uk http://WWW.Cranfield.ac.uk/public/cc/cc047/ Relativism is the triumph of authority over truth, convention over justice. From majordomo-users-owner Tue Mar 3 05:55:58 1998 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-970926-1) id EAA28195; Tue, 3 Mar 1998 04:36:53 -0800 (PST) Received: from abaforum.es (scugat4.abaforum.es [194.179.88.4]) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-980202-1) with SMTP id EAA28029 for ; Tue, 3 Mar 1998 04:36:16 -0800 (PST) Received: from pp9 [195.77.101.2] by abaforum.es (SMTPD32-4.03) id AB6E4A01B8; Tue, 03 Mar 1998 13:45:34 +01d00 Message-Id: <2.2.32.19980303194732.0067868c@mail.abaforum.es> X-Sender: dcasals@mail.abaforum.es X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 2.2 (32) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Tue, 03 Mar 1998 13:47:32 -0600 To: majordomo-users@GreatCircle.COM From: Rafael segovia Subject: archive alias?? Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk I have problems making the alias for a archive list: I have for a list musica: musica-outgoing: :include:/majorinst/lists/musica,musica-archive musica-archive:"|/majorinst/wrapper archive -f /majorinst/archives/musica/musica -m -a" But It doesnt work. Any mistakes? I have checked the permissions and I think they are O.K. Could anyone please help me? Thank you in advance. From majordomo-users-owner Tue Mar 3 05:57:58 1998 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-970926-1) id FAA15224; Tue, 3 Mar 1998 05:36:41 -0800 (PST) Received: from miles.greatcircle.com (miles.greatcircle.com [198.102.244.45]) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-980202-1) with ESMTP id EAA17423 for ; Tue, 3 Mar 1998 04:01:37 -0800 (PST) Received: from redhat.edith.nl ([195.108.140.37]) by miles.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id DAA25440 for ; Tue, 3 Mar 1998 03:41:39 -0800 (PST) Received: from 195.108.140.33.edith.nl (boin.edith.nl.140.108.195.IN-ADDR.ARPA [195.108.140.250]) by redhat.edith.nl (8.8.4/8.8.4) with SMTP id MAA09475 for ; Tue, 3 Mar 1998 12:42:15 +0100 Message-Id: <199803031142.MAA09475@redhat.edith.nl> From: "Boin, Han" To: majordomo-users@greatcircle.com Date: Tue, 3 Mar 1998 12:46:33 +0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Subject: Welcome message Reply-to: Boin@edith.nl Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk Hello,. I'm a very new user of Majordomo and I think this question is asked before ... Before my time that is.... We're using the system of Majordomo here in Holland, and sorry to say, but there are still a lot of Dutch who does not control the English language at a level that the messages of Majordomo are clear to understand. Especially the tecnhical talk is very hard to understand for them. So, here's my question : I know that an intro message is send with the welcome message to an newly subscribed user. If I turn off the Welcome line in the config-file (welcome = NO) then the intro message is also gone for the new user. Is there a possibility that the new subscribers only receive the intro message ? This intro message is in Dutch of course ... Thanks in advance .. Han Boin ========================================================================= Han Boin Netwerkbeheerder =========================================================== Afd. Beheer Informatica Hogeschool Edith Stein/ Onderwijscentrum Twente Email : Boin@edith.nl M.A. de Ruyterstraat 3 7556 CW Hengelo Tel +31.74.2559130 The Netherlands Mobiel 06-54907095 http://www.edith.nl =========================================================== From majordomo-users-owner Tue Mar 3 09:24:15 1998 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-970926-1) id GAA27968; Tue, 3 Mar 1998 06:52:42 -0800 (PST) Received: from miles.greatcircle.com (miles.greatcircle.com [198.102.244.45]) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-980202-1) with ESMTP id GAA27870 for ; Tue, 3 Mar 1998 06:52:19 -0800 (PST) Received: from prescienttech.com (londo.prescienttech.com [199.103.216.62]) by miles.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id GAA26236 for ; Tue, 3 Mar 1998 06:58:34 -0800 (PST) Received: from gkar.prescienttech.com. (gkar.prescienttech.com [111.17.19.1]) by prescienttech.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id JAA07902 for ; Tue, 3 Mar 1998 09:58:49 -0500 From: Rich Pieri To: majordomo-users@greatcircle.com Subject: Re: About "To: majordomo-users@greatcircle.com" References: <01bd4646$864dc2a0$8345eaa8@wako.rds.org.gt> X-No-Archive: yes Mail-Copies-To: never Date: 03 Mar 1998 09:58:49 -0500 In-Reply-To: "Joel Arriaza"'s message of "Mon, 2 Mar 1998 19:48:55 -0600" Message-ID: Lines: 29 X-Mailer: Gnus v5.4.66/Emacs 19.34 Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- >>>>> "JA" == Joel Arriaza writes: JA> Is it posible to change it, for example from "To: JA> majordomo-users@greatcircle.com" to "To: Majordomo Users arround the JA> World". In short, no. That is not a valid mailbox. Besides, rewriting originator headers such as "To" should not be done by anyone other than the originator of the message (according to RFC 822) or the initial MTA (according to SMTP, in regards to "canonicalizing" outgoing headers). -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 4.0 Business Edition Charset: noconv iQCVAwUBNPwapp6VRH7BJMxHAQHZfgP/aDxSbDEvEn2Ny9vZio4k8FaEauSlhqWs SUvKdRXLelzOdb/Qf9XKQDnWY2AeRaPH9v7Bd3+iFI7tqvLvWq/QIPANUfCTHfws LPpY5xy0VOroD4N7N/k6882sQYhlhy+qof12poCc6O2POdVR+OufoByK4r2SDf99 WR/dMpbYfug= =+0vm -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- Rich Pieri / Do not taunt Happy Fun Ball. Sysmonster, Unix Wrangler / Prescient Technologies, Inc. / I speak for myself, not PTI or SWEC / From majordomo-users-owner Tue Mar 3 09:42:41 1998 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-970926-1) id JAA03714; Tue, 3 Mar 1998 09:32:34 -0800 (PST) Received: from miles.greatcircle.com (miles.greatcircle.com [198.102.244.45]) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-980202-1) with ESMTP id JAA03441 for ; Tue, 3 Mar 1998 09:31:36 -0800 (PST) Received: from ayla.idyllmtn.com (ayla.idyllmtn.com [206.16.238.1]) by miles.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA29940 for ; Tue, 3 Mar 1998 09:18:13 -0800 (PST) Received: (from kynn@localhost) by ayla.idyllmtn.com (8.8.7/8.8.7) id JAA12062; Tue, 3 Mar 1998 09:12:43 -0800 (PST) From: Kynn Bartlett Message-Id: <199803031712.JAA12062@ayla.idyllmtn.com> Subject: Re: Ignoring specific users To: jeffw@smoe.org (Jeff Wasilko) Date: Tue, 3 Mar 1998 09:12:43 -0800 (PST) Cc: swangdb@mallard2.duc.auburn.edu, majordomo-users@GreatCircle.COM In-Reply-To: <19980303120220.12479@smoe.org> from "Jeff Wasilko" at Mar 3, 98 12:02:20 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] Content-Type: text Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk Jeff wrote: > On Tue, Mar 03, 1998 at 08:58:28AM -0600, David Swanger wrote: > > If this is in the docs, please forgive, I couldn't find it. > > Is there an easy way to bar a single user from zubzcribing > > and/or posting to a majordomo mailing list? With listproc, > > there is a ".ignored" file. I have version 1.94.3 of > > majordomo installed on a Sun Ultra, Solaris 2.5.1. > It's in the list archives, since I answered it last week. > All you can do is add their username to majordomo_dont_reply in > the majordomo.cf. How about adding their name to the list's "taboo headers", e.g. /To:.*kynn\@idyllmtn.com/i Does that work to prevent them from posting? (I know they can still subscribe.) --Kynn From majordomo-users-owner Tue Mar 3 09:43:01 1998 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-970926-1) id IAA22550; Tue, 3 Mar 1998 08:53:13 -0800 (PST) Received: from miles.greatcircle.com (miles.greatcircle.com [198.102.244.45]) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-980202-1) with ESMTP id IAA22506 for ; Tue, 3 Mar 1998 08:53:01 -0800 (PST) Received: from mermaid.shore.net (mermaid.shore.net [207.244.124.6]) by miles.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id IAA29375 for ; Tue, 3 Mar 1998 08:59:34 -0800 (PST) Received: from smoe.org [204.167.97.154] (jeffw) by mermaid.shore.net with esmtp (Exim) id 0y9v2y-0006YI-00; Tue, 3 Mar 1998 12:00:05 -0500 Received: (from jeffw@localhost) by smoe.org (8.8.7/8.8.7/daemon-mode-relay2) id MAA04250; Tue, 3 Mar 1998 12:02:21 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <19980303120220.12479@smoe.org> Date: Tue, 3 Mar 1998 12:02:20 -0500 From: Jeff Wasilko To: David Swanger Cc: majordomo-users@greatcircle.com Subject: Re: Ignoring specific users References: <199803031458.IAA15338@peking.duc.auburn.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.76 In-Reply-To: <199803031458.IAA15338@peking.duc.auburn.edu>; from "David Swanger" on Tue, Mar 03, 1998 at 08:58:28AM -0600 Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk On Tue, Mar 03, 1998 at 08:58:28AM -0600, David Swanger wrote: > > If this is in the docs, please forgive, I couldn't find it. > > Is there an easy way to bar a single user from subscribing > and/or posting to a majordomo mailing list? With listproc, > there is a ".ignored" file. I have version 1.94.3 of > majordomo installed on a Sun Ultra, Solaris 2.5.1. It's in the list archives, since I answered it last week. All you can do is add their username to majordomo_dont_reply in the majordomo.cf. Jeff From majordomo-users-owner Tue Mar 3 09:43:02 1998 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-970926-1) id GAA29292; Tue, 3 Mar 1998 06:59:51 -0800 (PST) Received: from mallard.duc.auburn.edu (mallard2.duc.auburn.edu [131.204.2.23]) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-980202-1) with SMTP id GAA27732 for ; Tue, 3 Mar 1998 06:51:29 -0800 (PST) Received: from peking.duc.auburn.edu by mallard.duc.auburn.edu (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id IAA02359; Tue, 3 Mar 1998 08:58:29 -0600 Received: from peking by peking.duc.auburn.edu (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id IAA15338; Tue, 3 Mar 1998 08:58:28 -0600 Message-Id: <199803031458.IAA15338@peking.duc.auburn.edu> Date: Tue, 3 Mar 1998 08:58:28 -0600 (CST) From: David Swanger Reply-To: David Swanger Subject: Ignoring specific users To: majordomo-users@greatcircle.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-MD5: 1MNYGIoalHVj1O2E/fRsHw== X-Mailer: dtmail 1.2.1 CDE Version 1.2.1 SunOS 5.6 sun4m sparc Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk If this is in the docs, please forgive, I couldn't find it. Is there an easy way to bar a single user from subscribing and/or posting to a majordomo mailing list? With listproc, there is a ".ignored" file. I have version 1.94.3 of majordomo installed on a Sun Ultra, Solaris 2.5.1. Thanks for any help you can give. -- David Swanger University Computing Auburn University, AL swangdb@mail.auburn.edu From majordomo-users-owner Tue Mar 3 12:33:44 1998 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-970926-1) id KAA08256; Tue, 3 Mar 1998 10:00:58 -0800 (PST) Received: from miles.greatcircle.com (miles.greatcircle.com [198.102.244.45]) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-980202-1) with ESMTP id JAA25407 for ; Tue, 3 Mar 1998 09:05:06 -0800 (PST) Received: from axe.humboldt.edu (axe.humboldt.edu [137.150.148.10]) by miles.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id HAA26858 for ; Tue, 3 Mar 1998 07:39:03 -0800 (PST) Received: by axe.humboldt.edu id AA10870; Tue, 3 Mar 1998 07:39:34 -0800 Message-Id: <3.0.1.32.19980303074039.00927100@axe.humboldt.edu> X-Sender: myw1@axe.humboldt.edu X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.1 (32) Date: Tue, 03 Mar 1998 07:40:39 -0800 To: majordomo-users@greatcircle.com From: "Marilyn Y. Weber" Subject: Unkind Replies Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk I'm not sure if I'm just over sensitive or what but some people are replying to questions with what seems to me in some instances as a "Holier" than thou attitude. All of us were beginners at some point in time and probably asked the same kinds of questions. Many people are not quite as technically knowledgeable as others, Wouldn't it be better to ignore the questions you don't personally like by deleting the message ?? Just my personal thought for the day. Thanks for listening. From majordomo-users-owner Tue Mar 3 12:39:29 1998 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-970926-1) id KAA09868; Tue, 3 Mar 1998 10:06:45 -0800 (PST) Received: from opus.SanDiegoCA.NCR.COM (h153-64-253-5.NCR.COM [153.64.253.5]) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-980202-1) with SMTP id KAA09678 for ; Tue, 3 Mar 1998 10:06:01 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <199803031806.KAA09678@honor.greatcircle.com> Received: by opus.SanDiegoCA.NCR.COM; 3 Mar 98 10:13:22 PST From: Bill.Houle@SanDiegoCA.NCR.COM (Bill Houle) Date: Tue, 3 Mar 1998 10:13:22 -0800 In-Reply-To: Jeff Wasilko Re: Ignoring specific users (Mar 3, 12:02pm) X-Mailer: Mail User's Shell (7.2.5 10/14/92) To: Jeff Wasilko , David Swanger Subject: Re: Ignoring specific users Cc: majordomo-users@GreatCircle.COM Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk On Mar 3, 12:02pm, Jeff Wasilko wrote: } On Tue, Mar 03, 1998 at 08:58:28AM -0600, David Swanger wrote: } > } > Is there an easy way to bar a single user from subscribing } > and/or posting to a majordomo mailing list? With listproc, } > there is a ".ignored" file. I have version 1.94.3 of } > majordomo installed on a Sun Ultra, Solaris 2.5.1. } } It's in the list archives, since I answered it last week. } } All you can do is add their username to majordomo_dont_reply in } the majordomo.cf. It's correct to refer to the archives since *several* people answered it last week. And one of those other answers mentioned a patch to ban arbitrary new subscribers by regexp (without resorting to the global majordomo_dont_reply). --bill From majordomo-users-owner Tue Mar 3 12:54:57 1998 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-970926-1) id KAA18096; Tue, 3 Mar 1998 10:37:48 -0800 (PST) Received: from jericho.gospelcom.net (mail.gospelcom.net [204.253.132.2]) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-980202-1) with ESMTP id KAA18019 for ; Tue, 3 Mar 1998 10:37:30 -0800 (PST) Received: from tarsus.gf.gospelcom.net (jabbok.gospelcom.net [204.253.132.4]) by jericho.gospelcom.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id NAA10413; Tue, 3 Mar 1998 13:44:40 -0500 Date: Tue, 3 Mar 1998 13:38:26 -0500 (EST) From: Topher X-Sender: topher@tarsus.gf.gospelcom.net To: Jeff Wasilko cc: majordomo-users@GreatCircle.COM Subject: Re: selective who In-Reply-To: <19980302225057.13498@smoe.org> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk On Mon, 2 Mar 1998, Jeff Wasilko wrote: > On Mon, Mar 02, 1998 at 06:09:09PM -0500, Topher wrote: > > > At 04:43 p.m. 03/02/98 -0500, Topher wrote: > > > >Is it possible to do something like a grep via e-mail? I'd like to do a > > > >"who" command with a variable, so I can see how many topher's there are, > > > >or what addresses are on the list from *mk.cc.us > > Does the `which` command not work for you for some reason? "Which" applies to the whole site, so if I do a "which topher" I get all the lists I'm on. Our clients don't care about what *other* lists I'm on, they just want to know if I'm on theirs. I'm beginning to think that making them do a "who" and search the list themselves. I wanted to avoid that since some of the lists are just huge. Topher Tech Support topher@gospelcom.net Gospel Communications Network From majordomo-users-owner Tue Mar 3 13:09:47 1998 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-970926-1) id NAA20673; Tue, 3 Mar 1998 13:07:50 -0800 (PST) Received: from stream.earthbroadcasting.com ([207.173.16.201]) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-980202-1) with ESMTP id NAA20666 for ; Tue, 3 Mar 1998 13:07:44 -0800 (PST) Received: from phishhead (phishhead.dawtech.com [206.29.217.100]) by stream.earthbroadcasting.com (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id OAA08861; Tue, 3 Mar 1998 14:17:58 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from chris@christaylor.com) Message-ID: <01e601bd46e9$9532ca60$64d91dce@phishhead.dawtech.com> From: "Chris Taylor" To: , "Marilyn Y. Weber" Subject: Re: Unkind Replies Date: Tue, 3 Mar 1998 14:16:07 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.2106.4 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk >I'm not sure if I'm just over sensitive or what but some people are >replying to questions with what seems to me in some instances as a "Holier" >than thou attitude. All of us were beginners at some point in time and >probably asked the same kinds of questions. Many people are not quite as >technically knowledgeable as others, Wouldn't it be better to ignore the >questions you don't personally like by deleting the message ?? You mean, RTFM isn't a suitable response ;) --Chris From majordomo-users-owner Tue Mar 3 16:26:38 1998 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-970926-1) id NAA25590; Tue, 3 Mar 1998 13:33:38 -0800 (PST) Received: from faamsnet.com (www.faamsnet.com [207.30.55.17]) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-980202-1) with ESMTP id NAA25546 for ; Tue, 3 Mar 1998 13:33:22 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (support@localhost) by faamsnet.com (8.8.5/8.6.10) with SMTP id QAA06202; Tue, 3 Mar 1998 16:42:57 -0500 Date: Tue, 3 Mar 1998 16:42:57 -0500 (EST) From: "Support (DCI)" To: Chris Taylor cc: majordomo-users@GreatCircle.COM, "Marilyn Y. Weber" Subject: Re: Unkind Replies In-Reply-To: <01e601bd46e9$9532ca60$64d91dce@phishhead.dawtech.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk On Tue, 3 Mar 1998, Chris Taylor wrote: > You mean, RTFM isn't a suitable response ;) > > --Chris > ROTFL !!! --Hal From majordomo-users-owner Tue Mar 3 16:33:02 1998 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-970926-1) id PAA24242; Tue, 3 Mar 1998 15:37:21 -0800 (PST) Received: from piobaire.mines.uidaho.edu (piobaire.mines.uidaho.edu [129.101.8.252]) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-980202-1) with ESMTP id PAA24084 for ; Tue, 3 Mar 1998 15:36:49 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (keng@localhost) by piobaire.mines.uidaho.edu (8.8.3/8.6.12) with SMTP id PAA01160 for ; Tue, 3 Mar 1998 15:44:12 -0800 (PST) X-Authentication-Warning: piobaire.mines.uidaho.edu: keng owned process doing -bs Date: Tue, 3 Mar 1998 15:44:12 -0800 (PST) From: Ken Gordon X-Sender: keng@piobaire.mines.uidaho.edu To: majordomo-users@greatcircle.com Subject: What in the heck... Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk does MAJORDOMO ABORT open of temp file /usr/local/domo/lists/shlock.715 failed Permission denied. mean? All files in the domo directory are mode 775, the aliases file has NOT been changed, no files have been edited (as far as I can tell), and when I send a "lists" command to majordomo, it returns the command and a line about, Majordomo@xxxxx serves these lists: and then nothing after that. What gives? Ken Gordon From majordomo-users-owner Tue Mar 3 16:54:33 1998 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-970926-1) id QAA08615; Tue, 3 Mar 1998 16:30:59 -0800 (PST) Received: from newton.ispgaya.pt (newton.ispgaya.pt [194.79.91.19]) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-980202-1) with ESMTP id OAA13220 for ; Tue, 3 Mar 1998 14:58:44 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (pbrandao@localhost) by newton.ispgaya.pt (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id XAA00889 for ; Tue, 3 Mar 1998 23:01:39 GMT Date: Tue, 3 Mar 1998 23:01:39 +0000 (WET) From: Paulo Brandao To: majordomo-users@GreatCircle.COM Subject: restrict post and bounce In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk Hi, I use restrict post in my lists, but i'am having a problem, i wan't that when someone send email to the list with am address that don't belong to the list, instead of that message be a bounce message, i am that majordomo reply to that person and tell's why that certain message wasn't send to the list. Thank's in advance, Paulo Brandao From majordomo-users-owner Tue Mar 3 17:03:44 1998 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-970926-1) id QAA14043; Tue, 3 Mar 1998 16:48:53 -0800 (PST) Received: from sina.hpc.uh.edu (Sina.HPC.UH.EDU [129.7.3.5]) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-980202-1) with ESMTP id QAA13885 for ; Tue, 3 Mar 1998 16:47:58 -0800 (PST) Received: (from tibbs@localhost) by sina.hpc.uh.edu (8.7.3/8.7.3) id SAA15327; Tue, 3 Mar 1998 18:54:35 -0600 (CST) To: Ken Gordon Cc: majordomo-users@GreatCircle.COM Subject: Re: What in the heck... References: Mime-Version: 1.0 (generated by tm-edit 7.100) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII From: Jason L Tibbitts III Date: 03 Mar 1998 18:54:35 -0600 In-Reply-To: Ken Gordon's message of Tue, 3 Mar 1998 15:44:12 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: Lines: 22 X-Mailer: Gnus v5.4.46/Emacs 19.34 Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk >>>>> "KG" == Ken Gordon writes: KG> does MAJORDOMO ABORT KG> open of temp file /usr/local/domo/lists/shlock.715 failed Permission KG> denied. KG> mean? It couldn't open a file named "/usr/local/domo/lists/shlock.715" because if insufficient permissions. Ususlly it means that it can't write to the directory, but the code (at least in 1.94.1 and later) does separate checks and issues separate warnings for that. Since you neglected to tell us what version you're running, it's hard to say more since 1.94 includes the message but doesn't do any additional checks. KG> All files in the domo directory are mode 775, But what about the directory itself? It's trying to create a new file here, not open an existing one. - J< From majordomo-users-owner Tue Mar 3 17:18:34 1998 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-970926-1) id PAA23662; Tue, 3 Mar 1998 15:35:20 -0800 (PST) Received: from brutha.thehub.com.au (brutha.thehub.com.au [203.17.162.11]) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-980202-1) with SMTP id PAA23451 for ; Tue, 3 Mar 1998 15:34:34 -0800 (PST) Received: (qmail 7986 invoked by uid 2476); 4 Mar 1998 09:44:59 +1000 Date: Wed, 4 Mar 1998 09:44:58 +1000 (EST) From: Bruce Campbell To: majordomo-users@GreatCircle.COM Subject: Re: Unkind Replies In-Reply-To: <01e601bd46e9$9532ca60$64d91dce@phishhead.dawtech.com> Message-ID: Organisation: Hub Communications MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk On Tue, 3 Mar 1998, Chris Taylor wrote: > >I'm not sure if I'm just over sensitive or what but some people are > >replying to questions with what seems to me in some instances as a "Holier" > >than thou attitude. All of us were beginners at some point in time and > >probably asked the same kinds of questions. Many people are not quite as > >technically knowledgeable as others, Wouldn't it be better to ignore the > >questions you don't personally like by deleting the message ?? > > You mean, RTFM isn't a suitable response ;) Then you've got to explain exactly what you mean by RTFM, and trying to do it to a client who is rather... 'uptight' is amusing ;). If you can't answer the question in a way that helps them, leave it for someone who can. Anyway, perhaps putting a little footer on each of the messages from the list along the lines of: Majordomo FAQ: http://www.greatcircle.com/majordomo/FAQ.html Searchable Archives: http://www.hpc.uh.edu/majordomo-users/ would hopefully have the desired effect of pointing people there first. *Then* you can amuse yourselves with the ones who ask questions which are in the FAQ. ;) --==-- Bruce. From majordomo-users-owner Tue Mar 3 17:22:32 1998 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-970926-1) id RAA16032; Tue, 3 Mar 1998 17:03:18 -0800 (PST) Received: from whoweb.com (secureguard.net [208.144.211.150]) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-980202-1) with ESMTP id PAA22631 for ; Tue, 3 Mar 1998 15:31:41 -0800 (PST) Received: (from jon@localhost) by whoweb.com (8.8.8/8.8.6) id SAA11363 for majordomo-users@GreatCircle.COM; Tue, 3 Mar 1998 18:36:40 -0500 (EST) Date: Tue, 3 Mar 1998 18:36:40 -0500 (EST) From: Jonathan Wallace Message-Id: <199803032336.SAA11363@whoweb.com> To: majordomo-users@GreatCircle.COM Subject: Re: Unkind Replies Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk I agree with Marilyn and have also been concerned about the RTFM replies that have been occuring in here recently. In some cases, people have read the documentation and still don't understand how to resolve the issue, in other cases they may not even know where to begin. I don't believe anyone benefits from getting a RTFM response and such comments act to stifle the flow of information and comments from people trying to resolve majordomo issues. If an issue is clearly documented, a simple response indicating which document to look in and an invitation to return with a question if the issue is not resolved would suffice. Jon From majordomo-users-owner Tue Mar 3 17:40:24 1998 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-970926-1) id RAA23945; Tue, 3 Mar 1998 17:30:09 -0800 (PST) Received: from malady.cais.net (aed.aed.org [199.0.216.100]) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-980202-1) with ESMTP id RAA15728 for ; Tue, 3 Mar 1998 17:02:18 -0800 (PST) Received: from chele.cais.com (chele.cais.com [199.0.216.212]) by malady.cais.net (8.8.7/CJKv1.99-CAIS) with SMTP id UAA22505 for ; Tue, 3 Mar 1998 20:13:19 -0500 (EST) Date: Tue, 3 Mar 1998 20:09:42 -0500 (EST) From: "Jason K. Schechner" Reply-To: FiXXiT@bigfoot.com To: majordomo-users@greatcircle.com Subject: digest oddities In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk I've got a list that was working fine for a while, but now will only send out a digest when it hits the maxlines limit. "mkdigest" won't do it, and I do have the password right. The result I get from a "mkdigest" doesn't say that any posts were processed or that there were none there. I get this: *******start e-mail message********* -- >>>> mkdigest t0y4x4 t0y4x4.passwd *******end e-mail message*******8 Can anyone explain this? Thanks! -Jason ----- Jason K. Schechner - check out www.cauce.org and help ban spam-mail. =The difference between genius and stupidity is that genius has bounds= JaSage: "Do bald men have bad head days?" From majordomo-users-owner Tue Mar 3 17:57:32 1998 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-970926-1) id QAA14465; Tue, 3 Mar 1998 16:54:02 -0800 (PST) Received: from piobaire.mines.uidaho.edu (piobaire.mines.uidaho.edu [129.101.8.252]) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-980202-1) with ESMTP id QAA14458 for ; Tue, 3 Mar 1998 16:53:56 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (keng@localhost) by piobaire.mines.uidaho.edu (8.8.3/8.6.12) with SMTP id RAA03032; Tue, 3 Mar 1998 17:01:08 -0800 (PST) X-Authentication-Warning: piobaire.mines.uidaho.edu: keng owned process doing -bs Date: Tue, 3 Mar 1998 17:01:08 -0800 (PST) From: Ken Gordon X-Sender: keng@piobaire.mines.uidaho.edu To: Jason L Tibbitts III cc: majordomo-users@GreatCircle.COM Subject: Re: What in the heck... In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk > > It couldn't open a file named "/usr/local/domo/lists/shlock.715" because if > insufficient permissions. Ususlly it means that it can't write to the > directory, but the code (at least in 1.94.1 and later) does separate checks > and issues separate warnings for that. Since you neglected to tell us what > version you're running, Damn! I am so frazzled from trying to figure this out I forgot...I am using ver 1.93 > it's hard to say more since 1.94 includes the > message but doesn't do any additional checks. > > KG> All files in the domo directory are mode 775, > > But what about the directory itself? It's trying to create a new file > here, not open an existing one. > > - J< > All are 775 including the one where majordomo resides... Thanks for the help, BTW. From majordomo-users-owner Tue Mar 3 20:34:39 1998 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-970926-1) id TAA18538; Tue, 3 Mar 1998 19:45:06 -0800 (PST) Received: from miles.greatcircle.com (miles.greatcircle.com [198.102.244.45]) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-980202-1) with ESMTP id TAA18348 for ; Tue, 3 Mar 1998 19:44:21 -0800 (PST) Received: from piobaire.mines.uidaho.edu (piobaire.mines.uidaho.edu [129.101.8.252]) by miles.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id TAA11705 for ; Tue, 3 Mar 1998 19:50:54 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (keng@localhost) by piobaire.mines.uidaho.edu (8.8.3/8.6.12) with SMTP id TAA01500 for ; Tue, 3 Mar 1998 19:51:24 -0800 (PST) X-Authentication-Warning: piobaire.mines.uidaho.edu: keng owned process doing -bs Date: Tue, 3 Mar 1998 19:51:23 -0800 (PST) From: Ken Gordon X-Sender: keng@piobaire.mines.uidaho.edu To: majordomo-users@greatcircle.com Subject: Another error message... Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk which I don't understand. This is one result of my attempt to send a lists command to majordomo on my system. Another result is the error message I forwarded on to the list earlier. Am using version 1.93. It looks as though an important file is missing, but which one? ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Tue, 3 Mar 1998 19:38:00 -0800 (PST) From: Majordomo@mines.uidaho.edu To: keng@uidaho.edu Subject: Majordomo results -- >>>> lists Majordomo@piobaire.mines.uidaho.edu serves the following lists: ------------------------------------------------------------------ See, no lists listed. Ken Gordon From majordomo-users-owner Tue Mar 3 22:49:29 1998 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-970926-1) id VAA11577; Tue, 3 Mar 1998 21:51:55 -0800 (PST) Received: from piobaire.mines.uidaho.edu (piobaire.mines.uidaho.edu [129.101.8.252]) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-980202-1) with ESMTP id VAA11541 for ; Tue, 3 Mar 1998 21:51:26 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (keng@localhost) by piobaire.mines.uidaho.edu (8.8.3/8.6.12) with SMTP id VAA02862; Tue, 3 Mar 1998 21:58:17 -0800 (PST) X-Authentication-Warning: piobaire.mines.uidaho.edu: keng owned process doing -bs Date: Tue, 3 Mar 1998 21:58:16 -0800 (PST) From: Ken Gordon X-Sender: keng@piobaire.mines.uidaho.edu To: Jason L Tibbitts III cc: majordomo-users@GreatCircle.COM Subject: Re: Mailer error 139... In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk On 3 Mar 1998, Jason L Tibbitts III wrote: > >>>>> "KG" == Ken Gordon writes: > > KG> Anyone know what this is? > > It's a segfault. If something's segfaulting, you have a serious problem. > Perl will segfault if you're not running one of the recommended versions. > If you're running 1.93, well, it had problems which caused this. The > current version is 1.94.4, and has this and many other problems fixed. OK. I have dled and started the installation of 1.94.4..... Thanks again, Ken From majordomo-users-owner Tue Mar 3 23:51:17 1998 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-970926-1) id XAA03260; Tue, 3 Mar 1998 23:28:08 -0800 (PST) Received: (mcb@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-980202-1) id XAA03186 for majordomo-users@greatcircle.com; Tue, 3 Mar 1998 23:27:52 -0800 (PST) Received: from listserv.music.sony.com (listserv.music.sony.com [206.41.6.55]) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-980202-1) with ESMTP id HAA11252 for ; Fri, 27 Feb 1998 07:13:57 -0800 (PST) Received: from listserv.music.sony.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by listserv.music.sony.com (8.8.8/8.8.8/97.11-PDE) with ESMTP id KAA23173; Fri, 27 Feb 1998 10:14:54 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199802271514.KAA23173@listserv.music.sony.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0.1 12/23/97 To: majordomo-users@greatcircle.com Subject: hotmail and rocketmail .sigs? Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Fri, 27 Feb 1998 10:14:54 -0500 From: Pete Ehlke Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk I run a large majordomo installation- nearly 300 lists, 700,000 subscribers. I get 400-500 subscribe/unsubscribe messages per week from hotmail.com alone. Problem is, neither hotmail nor yahoo-rocketmail use a standard .sig seperator, and their default .sig starts with the word "Get". Majordomo of course interprets this as a get request, and fails, generating a Help message for *every* hotmail or yahoo subscribe/ unsubscribe message. Before I reinvent the wheel, I wonder if anyone has taken steps to prevent this at their own site. Thanks. -Pete -- Pete Ehlke Sys Admin type @ Sony Music Entertainment "Once is happenstance, twice is coincidence, three times is enemy action." -Ian Fleming From majordomo-users-owner Wed Mar 4 00:02:37 1998 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-970926-1) id XAA06475; Tue, 3 Mar 1998 23:58:09 -0800 (PST) Received: (mcb@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-980202-1) id XAA06467 for majordomo-users@greatcircle.com; Tue, 3 Mar 1998 23:58:06 -0800 (PST) Received: from ex1.ncsa.uiuc.edu (ex1.ncsa.uiuc.edu [141.142.3.16]) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-980202-1) with ESMTP id MAA21500 for ; Sun, 1 Mar 1998 12:57:16 -0800 (PST) Received: from mx1.ncsa.uiuc.edu (mx1.ncsa.uiuc.edu [141.142.3.15]) by ex1.ncsa.uiuc.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id PAA09101; Sun, 1 Mar 1998 15:03:56 -0600 (CST) Received: from ferret.ncsa.uiuc.edu (ferret.ncsa.uiuc.edu [141.142.21.119]) by mx1.ncsa.uiuc.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id PAA28172; Sun, 1 Mar 1998 15:03:56 -0600 (CST) Received: (from lindsey@localhost) by ferret.ncsa.uiuc.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) id PAA11855; Sun, 1 Mar 1998 15:03:43 -0600 From: Christopher Lindsey Message-Id: <199803012103.PAA11855@ferret.ncsa.uiuc.edu> Subject: Re: Verifying email addresses on subscription To: geoffr@rit.com (Geoff Reed) Date: Sun, 1 Mar 1998 15:03:43 -0600 (CST) Cc: majordomo-users@GreatCircle.COM In-Reply-To: <3.0.3.32.19980301122342.00698654@rit.com> from "Geoff Reed" at Mar 1, 98 12:23:42 pm Content-Type: text Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk > Is there a way I can get majordomo to log all subscription attempts, and > what email address/headers from the message ?? and is there a module that > will verify email addresses on subscribe and bounce subs from invalid > addresses? I really don't want to have to turn on Confirm, as it refused > to work right in the past for me... I believe the first part is a majordomo 2.0 enhancement, but the version hasn't been "released" yet. I believe Jason has a snapshot of the current development version available -- more information is in the majordomo-workers archives. There's really no way to verify email addresses short of sending the account mail and awaiting a response (basically the confirm feature). What did confirm do/not do for you in the past? What version of majordomo were you using then? I use closed+confirm for my lists without any problems. Chris From majordomo-users-owner Wed Mar 4 00:12:47 1998 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-970926-1) id VAA11263; Tue, 3 Mar 1998 21:48:22 -0800 (PST) Received: from piobaire.mines.uidaho.edu (piobaire.mines.uidaho.edu [129.101.8.252]) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-980202-1) with ESMTP id VAA11227 for ; Tue, 3 Mar 1998 21:48:05 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (keng@localhost) by piobaire.mines.uidaho.edu (8.8.3/8.6.12) with SMTP id VAA02839; Tue, 3 Mar 1998 21:55:25 -0800 (PST) X-Authentication-Warning: piobaire.mines.uidaho.edu: keng owned process doing -bs Date: Tue, 3 Mar 1998 21:55:25 -0800 (PST) From: Ken Gordon X-Sender: keng@piobaire.mines.uidaho.edu To: Jason L Tibbitts III cc: majordomo-users@GreatCircle.COM Subject: Re: Another error message...solved... In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk On 3 Mar 1998, Jason L Tibbitts III wrote: > >>>>> "KG" == Ken Gordon writes: > > KG> See, no lists listed. > > Majordomo probably can't lock any of the config files to check the > advertise status of the lists. It's beginning to me to look like you > somehow dropped the setuid privileges from the wrapper. Did. Boy, do I feel stupid. I chmoded -R all the directories and files to 755 and chowned -R to domo:list So the wrapper has set 755 and owned by domo:list instead of root. My head still hurts...but now for a different reason. Ken Gordon From majordomo-users-owner Wed Mar 4 00:12:50 1998 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-970926-1) id TAA17548; Tue, 3 Mar 1998 19:41:02 -0800 (PST) Received: from piobaire.mines.uidaho.edu (piobaire.mines.uidaho.edu [129.101.8.252]) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-980202-1) with ESMTP id TAA17454 for ; Tue, 3 Mar 1998 19:40:37 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (keng@localhost) by piobaire.mines.uidaho.edu (8.8.3/8.6.12) with SMTP id TAA01480 for ; Tue, 3 Mar 1998 19:47:59 -0800 (PST) X-Authentication-Warning: piobaire.mines.uidaho.edu: keng owned process doing -bs Date: Tue, 3 Mar 1998 19:47:59 -0800 (PST) From: Ken Gordon X-Sender: keng@piobaire.mines.uidaho.edu To: majordomo-users@greatcircle.com Subject: I am stumped... Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: MULTIPART/REPORT; REPORT-TYPE=delivery-status; BOUNDARY="TAB01370.888982697/piobaire.mines.uidaho.edu" Content-ID: Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk This message is in MIME format. The first part should be readable text, while the remaining parts are likely unreadable without MIME-aware tools. Send mail to mime@docserver.cac.washington.edu for more info. --TAB01370.888982697/piobaire.mines.uidaho.edu Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII Content-ID: This is one of the error messages I get from my system since majordomo quit working. I am (was) using majordomo version 1.93 and it has been working fine up until about 12:00 today. All majordomo files and directories are mode 775, all aliases are as before. So, what in heck is error number 139? My /etc/include/sys/errno.h only goes up to about 66. My head hurts... ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Tue, 3 Mar 1998 19:38:17 -0800 (PST) From: Mail Delivery Subsystem To: owner-majordomo@uidaho.edu Subject: Returned mail: unknown mailer error 139 The original message was received at Tue, 3 Mar 1998 19:37:57 -0800 (PST) from keng@localhost ----- The following addresses had permanent fatal errors ----- "|/usr/local/domo/bin/wrapper majordomo" (expanded from: ) ----- Transcript of session follows ----- Memory fault 554 "|/usr/local/domo/bin/wrapper majordomo"... unknown mailer error 139 Message delivered to mailing list owner-majordomo ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Does anyone have any idea what in heck happened? Ken Gordon --TAB01370.888982697/piobaire.mines.uidaho.edu Content-Type: MESSAGE/DELIVERY-STATUS Content-ID: Content-Description: Reporting-MTA: dns; piobaire.mines.uidaho.edu Arrival-Date: Tue, 3 Mar 1998 19:37:57 -0800 (PST) Final-Recipient: rfc822; majordomo@piobaire.mines.uidaho.edu X-Actual-Recipient: rfc822; |/usr/local/domo/bin/wrapper majordomo@piobaire.mines.uidaho.edu Action: failed Status: 5.0.0 Last-Attempt-Date: Tue, 3 Mar 1998 19:38:17 -0800 (PST) --TAB01370.888982697/piobaire.mines.uidaho.edu Content-Type: MESSAGE/RFC822 Content-ID: Content-Description: Return-Path: keng@uidaho.edu Received: from localhost (keng@localhost) by piobaire.mines.uidaho.edu (8.8.3/8.6.12) with SMTP id TAA01369 for ; Tue, 3 Mar 1998 19:37:57 -0800 (PST) X-Authentication-Warning: piobaire.mines.uidaho.edu: keng owned process doing -bs Date: Tue, 3 Mar 1998 19:37:57 -0800 (PST) From: Ken Gordon X-Sender: keng@piobaire.mines.uidaho.edu To: majordomo@piobaire.mines.uidaho.edu Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII lists --TAB01370.888982697/piobaire.mines.uidaho.edu-- From majordomo-users-owner Wed Mar 4 00:21:22 1998 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-970926-1) id TAA16287; Tue, 3 Mar 1998 19:35:00 -0800 (PST) Received: from piobaire.mines.uidaho.edu (piobaire.mines.uidaho.edu [129.101.8.252]) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-980202-1) with ESMTP id TAA16105 for ; Tue, 3 Mar 1998 19:34:17 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (keng@localhost) by piobaire.mines.uidaho.edu (8.8.3/8.6.12) with SMTP id TAA01459 for ; Tue, 3 Mar 1998 19:41:40 -0800 (PST) X-Authentication-Warning: piobaire.mines.uidaho.edu: keng owned process doing -bs Date: Tue, 3 Mar 1998 19:41:40 -0800 (PST) From: Ken Gordon X-Sender: keng@piobaire.mines.uidaho.edu To: majordomo-users@greatcircle.com Subject: Mailer error 139... Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk Anyone know what this is? My /etc/include/sys/errno.h only goes to about 66. Ken Gordon From majordomo-users-owner Wed Mar 4 00:47:35 1998 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-970926-1) id AAA06927; Wed, 4 Mar 1998 00:02:27 -0800 (PST) Received: (mcb@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-980202-1) id AAA06917 for majordomo-users@greatcircle.com; Wed, 4 Mar 1998 00:02:24 -0800 (PST) Received: from ozzy.terrestrial.com (ozzy.terrestrial.com [165.247.31.7]) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-980202-1) with ESMTP id HAA04258; Mon, 2 Mar 1998 07:59:08 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (davidr@localhost) by ozzy.terrestrial.com (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id HAA31164; Mon, 2 Mar 1998 07:42:41 -0700 Date: Mon, 2 Mar 1998 07:42:38 -0700 (MST) From: David Ray To: majordomo-users@greatcircle.com cc: majordomo@greatcircle.com, davidr@terrestrial.com Subject: Majordomo Problem. Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk Greetings. I just setup majordomo and the permissions seem to be correct but when I do a: approve bored unsubscribe bored events@in-out.org I get the following message: MAJORDOMO ABORT (mj_majordomo)!! chmod(33204, "/usr/local/majordomo/lists/in-out/bored.new"): Operation not permitted. I know this sounds like a permissions problem, and I have gone through them, but cannot seem to find what is causing this. I am even wondering if maybe it is a problem with the way I configured the 'wrapper' before compiling it. Any suggestions, help, or info on this would be greatly appreciated. Thanks David davidr@terrestrial.com From majordomo-users-owner Wed Mar 4 00:56:26 1998 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-970926-1) id AAA07012; Wed, 4 Mar 1998 00:04:02 -0800 (PST) Received: (mcb@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-980202-1) id AAA07003 for majordomo-users@greatcircle.com; Wed, 4 Mar 1998 00:03:59 -0800 (PST) Received: from coyote.rain.org (coyote.rain.org [198.68.144.2]) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-980202-1) with ESMTP id MAA29592 for ; Mon, 2 Mar 1998 12:33:14 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (snowe@localhost) by coyote.rain.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id MAA22159 for ; Mon, 2 Mar 1998 12:40:20 -0800 (PST) Date: Mon, 2 Mar 1998 12:40:18 -0800 (PST) From: Nick Halloway To: majordomo-users@greatcircle.com Subject: subscribe/confirm patch (123) In-Reply-To: Message-ID: x-no-archive: yes MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk Hello, Does anyone happen to have the subscribe/confirm patch to Majordomo 1.94.4? I'm going to be using a piece of Majordomo for my robomoderator's register/confirm script -- I'm told that OXymoron wrote the subscribe/confirm patch for version 1.94.1 and it was modified for version 1.94.4 by somebody @smoe.org, I emailed him but haven't heard back yet ... so if anyone has this at a web site, or can mail it to me, I would appreciate it. Also I haven't used patch before so explicit instructions about how to do the patching would be appreciated. Thanks ... From majordomo-users-owner Wed Mar 4 01:33:11 1998 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-970926-1) id AAA07082; Wed, 4 Mar 1998 00:04:44 -0800 (PST) Received: (mcb@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-980202-1) id AAA07073 for majordomo-users@greatcircle.com; Wed, 4 Mar 1998 00:04:41 -0800 (PST) Received: from miles.greatcircle.com (miles.greatcircle.com [198.102.244.45]) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-980202-1) with ESMTP id PAA28714 for ; Mon, 2 Mar 1998 15:12:24 -0800 (PST) Received: from jaske01.jaske.com (mail.jaske.com [208.221.152.2]) by miles.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA11232 for ; Mon, 2 Mar 1998 15:18:44 -0800 (PST) Received: from jaske.com (jas13.jaske.com [208.221.152.13]) by jaske01.jaske.com (8.8.8/8.8.5) with ESMTP id RAA06992 for ; Mon, 2 Mar 1998 17:19:10 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <34FB3E81.4BCC8E90@jaske.com> Date: Mon, 02 Mar 1998 17:19:29 -0600 From: Stathy Touloumis Organization: JASKE.COM X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: majordomo-users@GreatCircle.COM Subject: Check my majordomo References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk Hi all, I would like to see if someone outside my domain can use our majordomo. Apparently our anti-relay hacks are not allowing anyone to use the majordomo. The address is majordomo@triathlon.to, you will need to subscribe. Thanks, -- Stathy Touloumis - Partner/Owner JASKE.COM 'innovative I/net' JASKE.COM - 3555 W. Peterson Ave. Chicago IL 60659 ___________________________________________________ http://www.jaske.com - info@jaske.com - support@jaske.com From majordomo-users-owner Wed Mar 4 01:51:46 1998 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-970926-1) id AAA06968; Wed, 4 Mar 1998 00:02:53 -0800 (PST) Received: (mcb@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-980202-1) id AAB06958 for majordomo-users@greatcircle.com; Wed, 4 Mar 1998 00:02:50 -0800 (PST) Received: from irwell.zetnet.co.uk (irwell.zetnet.co.uk [194.247.47.48]) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-980202-1) with ESMTP id KAA01602 for ; Mon, 2 Mar 1998 10:26:14 -0800 (PST) Received: from zetnet.co.uk (man-070.dialup.zetnet.co.uk [194.247.41.87]) by irwell.zetnet.co.uk (8.8.7/8.8.5) with ESMTP id SAA26489 for ; Mon, 2 Mar 1998 18:33:14 GMT Message-ID: <34FAFAF8.8043BE46@zetnet.co.uk> Date: Mon, 02 Mar 1998 18:31:20 +0000 From: Neil A Thomson X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Majordomo Users list Subject: Config errors with PRIVATE_xxx following upgrade Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk I administer a majordomo list but have nothing to do with the machine it is on. My ISP upgraded from 1.93.? to 1.94.1 and now when I try to change the config file I get an error message saying : The new config file for xyz was NOT accepted because: unknown key |private_get| in file xyz.new.config at line 268 unknown key |private_index| in file xyz.new.config at line 273 unknown key |private_info| in file xyz.new.config at line 279 unknown key |private_which| in file xyz.new.config at line 284 unknown key |private_who| in file xyz.new.config at line 289 This key was known before, and is in the config file when I request a copy. Any ideas what's going on? Thanks. PS I only found this list yesterday so apologies if this has been covered before. -- ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Captain Neil A. Thomson, C.A. E-mail: na.thomson@zetnet.co.uk Assistant Director of Education, Anglican Diocese of Rochester, UK. & Secretary, Diaconal Association of the Church of England http://www.users.zetnet.co.uk/dace/thomson From majordomo-users-owner Wed Mar 4 04:23:05 1998 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-970926-1) id AAA07259; Wed, 4 Mar 1998 00:05:55 -0800 (PST) Received: (mcb@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-980202-1) id AAA07218 for majordomo-users@greatcircle.com; Wed, 4 Mar 1998 00:05:43 -0800 (PST) Received: from selenite.tzc.com (tzc.com [207.229.32.7]) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-980202-1) with ESMTP id UAA10264 for ; Mon, 2 Mar 1998 20:47:05 -0800 (PST) Received: from Bobo1.tzc.com (ip44.pm01.tzc.com [207.229.32.44]) by selenite.tzc.com (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id VAA25718 for ; Mon, 2 Mar 1998 21:50:31 -0700 (MST) From: "Karl (BoBo) Was" To: Subject: Moderation not working? Date: Sun, 2 Mar 1997 21:59:55 -0700 Message-ID: <01bc278f$bc5dc600$2c20e5cf@Bobo1.tzc.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.71.1712.3 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.71.1712.3 Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk My system info: Majordomo Version: 1.94.4 Perl version 5.00401 FreeBSD RELEASE FreeBSD 2.2.5 Got a problem with having moderation selected to "yes". Subscription to the list works beautifully, it asks me whether I want to subscribe so-and-so and all, however if someone starts sending messages to the list itself, it bounces them to me saying they weren't approved, like this: Subject: BOUNCE vortexq@vortexq.com: Approval required: This is sent immediately after the message from the person is submitted. It does anything even remotely close to, say, sending an approval message instead. The configuration of this list is identical to the example provided in the newlist document... owner-vortexq:quake owner-vortexq-outgoing:owner-vortexq vortexq-approval:quake vortexq-owner:quake vortexq: "|/usr/local/majordomo/wrapper resend -l vortexq vortexq-list" vortexq-list: :include:/usr/local/majordomo/lists/vortexq vortexq-request: "|/usr/local/majordomo/wrapper majordomo -l vortexq" And the .config is basically unchanged except for the obvious passwords, subject line manipulation and little appended footer message. Also, of course "moderate" is turned on. The config-test works perfectly and nothing drastic has been changed in the majordomo.cf file. Is there anything obvious that I'm missing here? Thanks all Karl "BoBo" Was From majordomo-users-owner Wed Mar 4 04:23:06 1998 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-970926-1) id CAA29604; Wed, 4 Mar 1998 02:18:35 -0800 (PST) Received: from miles.greatcircle.com (miles.greatcircle.com [198.102.244.45]) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-980202-1) with ESMTP id SAA07886 for ; Tue, 3 Mar 1998 18:54:11 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail2.codetel.net.do (mail2.codetel.net.do [205.244.32.16]) by miles.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id SAA10118 for ; Tue, 3 Mar 1998 18:59:31 -0800 (PST) Received: from blah (bay-136-b6.codetel.net.do [206.105.239.136]) by mail2.codetel.net.do (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id WAA19343 for ; Tue, 3 Mar 1998 22:59:06 +0400 (GMT) Message-Id: <199803031859.WAA19343@mail2.codetel.net.do> X-Sender: fatima@codetel.net.do (Unverified) X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.0 Date: Tue, 03 Mar 1998 23:00:39 -0500 To: Majordomo-Users@GreatCircle.COM From: Richy Guzman Subject: File Permissions Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk I'm sorry if this may bother any of ya. Here's the stats: Majordomo version: 1.94.4 OS: Linux Slackware running 2.0.33 Perl: 5.002 Here's my question I have majordomo installed as majordomo.daemon yet when I run "wrapper config-test" I get: ---------------------- list directory ---------------------- Hmmm, list directory home/majordomo/majordomo-1.94.4/lists doesn't exist or isn't a directory. Let me try to make it for you... BAD: Couldn't create home/majordomo/majordomo-1.94.4/lists, No such file or directory --------------------------- log --------------------------- Logfile home/majordomo/majordomo-1.94.4/Log didn't exist, trying to create... BAD: Couldn't create logfile home/majordomo/majordomo-1.94.4/Log, No such file or directory BAD: logfile home/majordomo/majordomo-1.94.4/Log exists, but is not writeable or isn't a file. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ----------- I have even setup up file permision as 775 on the majordomo dir and it still can't write the files Just in case this is my current dir with permisions: eduredes:/home/majordomo/majordomo-1.94.4# ls -la total 250 drwxr-x--x 5 majordom daemon 1024 Mar 3 23:04 ./ drwxr-xr-x 3 majordom daemon 1024 Mar 3 14:13 ../ drwxr-xr-x 2 majordom daemon 1024 Mar 3 14:14 Tools/ -rwxr-xr-x 1 majordom daemon 5234 Mar 3 14:14 archive2.pl* drwxr-xr-x 2 majordom daemon 1024 Mar 3 14:13 bin/ -rwxr-xr-x 1 majordom daemon 2795 Mar 3 14:13 bounce-remind* -rwxr-xr-x 1 majordom daemon 10671 Mar 3 14:14 config-test* -rwxr-xr-x 1 majordom daemon 49673 Mar 3 14:13 config_parse.pl* -rwxr-xr-x 1 majordom daemon 13031 Mar 3 14:14 digest* -rwxr-xr-x 1 majordom daemon 64251 Mar 3 14:14 majordomo* -rw-r--r-- 1 majordom daemon 10541 Mar 3 14:14 majordomo.cf -rwxr-xr-x 1 majordom daemon 23763 Mar 3 14:14 majordomo.pl* -rwxr-xr-x 1 majordom daemon 137 Mar 3 14:14 majordomo_version.pl* drwxr-xr-x 4 majordom daemon 1024 Mar 3 14:14 man/ -rwxr-xr-x 1 majordom daemon 3532 Mar 3 14:14 request-answer* -rwxr-xr-x 1 majordom daemon 29520 Mar 3 14:14 resend* -rw-r--r-- 1 majordom daemon 10462 Mar 3 14:14 sample.cf -rwxr-xr-x 1 majordom daemon 8060 Mar 3 14:14 shlock.pl* -rwsr-xr-x 1 root daemon 6598 Mar 3 14:15 wrapper* I'd appreciate the help....thanks Speed From majordomo-users-owner Wed Mar 4 05:02:48 1998 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-970926-1) id EAA02620; Wed, 4 Mar 1998 04:54:06 -0800 (PST) Received: from merlina.psi.uba.ar (merlina.psi.uba.ar [157.92.79.3]) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-980202-1) with ESMTP id EAA02613 for ; Wed, 4 Mar 1998 04:54:00 -0800 (PST) Received: (from mpaulu@localhost) by merlina.psi.uba.ar (8.8.5/8.8.5) id JAA03986 for majordomo-users@GreatCircle.com; Wed, 4 Mar 1998 09:45:23 -0300 From: Martin Paulucci Message-Id: <199803041245.JAA03986@merlina.psi.uba.ar> Subject: Majordomo message... To: majordomo-users@GreatCircle.com Date: Wed, 4 Mar 1998 09:45:23 -0300 (ARST) Content-Type: text Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk Dear friends of the list, I'm getting a message from Majordomo really often, so I'm starting to worry about it. It says: MAJORDOMO ABORT (mj_majordomo) majordomo@psi.uba.ar: not replying to MAILER-DAEMON to avoid mail loop. The TO: of the message is Majordomo-owner. Any idea? Thanks!!!! From majordomo-users-owner Wed Mar 4 14:59:08 1998 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-970926-1) id OAA15072; Wed, 4 Mar 1998 14:40:36 -0800 (PST) Received: from miles.greatcircle.com (miles.greatcircle.com [198.102.244.45]) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-980202-1) with ESMTP id OAA14804 for ; Wed, 4 Mar 1998 14:39:40 -0800 (PST) Received: from naic.org (naic.org [204.71.111.10]) by miles.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA29257 for ; Wed, 4 Mar 1998 14:19:00 -0800 (PST) Received: from LMS.NAIC.ORG ([165.103.12.3]) by gateway.naic.org with SMTP id <155016>; Wed, 4 Mar 1998 16:16:47 -0600 Received: by LMS.NAIC.ORG (Soft-Switch LMS 2.0) with OAS via MSMAIL id 0033300000264855; Wed, 4 Mar 1998 16:21:49 -0600 From: "JSkaggs@NAIC.ORG" To: "(a)naic.org" Subject: Re: Unkind replies Message-ID: <0033300000264855000002L052*@MHS> Date: Wed, 4 Mar 1998 16:21:49 -0600 Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk >I'm not sure if I'm just over sensitive or what but some people are >replying to questions with what seems to me in some instances as a "Holier" >than thou attitude. All of us were beginners at some point in time and >probably asked the same kinds of questions. Many people are not quite as >technically knowledgeable as others, Wouldn't it be better to ignore the >questions you don't personally like by deleting the message ?? You mean, RTFM isn't a suitable response ;) --Chris I don't get it... From majordomo-users-owner Wed Mar 4 15:10:08 1998 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-970926-1) id NAA06183; Wed, 4 Mar 1998 13:57:35 -0800 (PST) Received: from miles.greatcircle.com (miles.greatcircle.com [198.102.244.45]) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-980202-1) with ESMTP id NAA05825 for ; Wed, 4 Mar 1998 13:56:25 -0800 (PST) Received: from sina.hpc.uh.edu (Sina.HPC.UH.EDU [129.7.3.5]) by miles.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA25558 for ; Wed, 4 Mar 1998 11:10:59 -0800 (PST) Received: (from tibbs@localhost) by sina.hpc.uh.edu (8.7.3/8.7.3) id NAA29923; Wed, 4 Mar 1998 13:08:11 -0600 (CST) To: Martin Paulucci Cc: majordomo-users@GreatCircle.COM Subject: Re: Majordomo message... References: <199803041245.JAA03986@merlina.psi.uba.ar> Mime-Version: 1.0 (generated by tm-edit 7.100) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII From: Jason L Tibbitts III Date: 04 Mar 1998 13:08:11 -0600 In-Reply-To: Martin Paulucci's message of Wed, 4 Mar 1998 09:45:23 -0300 (ARST) Message-ID: Lines: 14 X-Mailer: Gnus v5.4.46/Emacs 19.34 Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk >>>>> "MP" == Martin Paulucci writes: MP> majordomo@psi.uba.ar: not replying to MAILER-DAEMON to avoid mail loop. It's not replying to a message from MAILER-DAEMON in order to avoid a mail loop. After all, why would MAILER-DAEMON ever send commands to Majordomo? MP> The TO: of the message is Majordomo-owner. But somehow the message made its way to majordomo@psi.uba.ar. The headers of the message do not always accurately reflect where the message was delivered. - J< From majordomo-users-owner Wed Mar 4 16:24:51 1998 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-970926-1) id NAA04545; Wed, 4 Mar 1998 13:50:42 -0800 (PST) Received: from miles.greatcircle.com (miles.greatcircle.com [198.102.244.45]) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-980202-1) with ESMTP id NAA04382 for ; Wed, 4 Mar 1998 13:50:09 -0800 (PST) Received: from listserv.music.sony.com (listserv.music.sony.com [206.41.6.55]) by miles.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA26914 for ; Wed, 4 Mar 1998 12:26:09 -0800 (PST) Received: from listserv.music.sony.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by listserv.music.sony.com (8.8.8/8.8.8/97.11-PDE) with ESMTP id PAA03351; Wed, 4 Mar 1998 15:20:28 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199803042020.PAA03351@listserv.music.sony.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0.1 12/23/97 To: Jason L Tibbitts III cc: majordomo-users@GreatCircle.COM Subject: Re: hotmail and rocketmail .sigs? In-reply-to: Your message of "04 Mar 1998 14:17:33 CST." Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Wed, 04 Mar 1998 15:20:27 -0500 From: Pete Ehlke Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk sendmail told me that Jason L Tibbitts III said: > > But current version (1.94.4 and probably earlier) will stop processing if > it sees any line starting with a dash, as long as the message isn't a MIME > multipart one. Hence this code: Yeah, perhaps it could also look for lines starting with underscores ;) -- Pete Ehlke Sys Admin type @ Sony Music Entertainment "Once is happenstance, twice is coincidence, three times is enemy action." -Ian Fleming From majordomo-users-owner Wed Mar 4 16:33:00 1998 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-970926-1) id PAA29685; Wed, 4 Mar 1998 15:38:54 -0800 (PST) Received: from miles.greatcircle.com (miles.greatcircle.com [198.102.244.45]) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-980202-1) with ESMTP id OAA07052 for ; Wed, 4 Mar 1998 14:00:56 -0800 (PST) Received: from sina.hpc.uh.edu (Sina.HPC.UH.EDU [129.7.3.5]) by miles.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA25489 for ; Wed, 4 Mar 1998 11:08:06 -0800 (PST) Received: (from tibbs@localhost) by sina.hpc.uh.edu (8.7.3/8.7.3) id NAA29852; Wed, 4 Mar 1998 13:05:26 -0600 (CST) To: "Karl (BoBo) Was" Cc: Subject: Re: Moderation not working? References: <01bc278f$bc5dc600$2c20e5cf@Bobo1.tzc.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 (generated by tm-edit 7.100) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII From: Jason L Tibbitts III Date: 04 Mar 1998 13:05:26 -0600 In-Reply-To: "Karl's message of Sun, 2 Mar 1997 21:59:55 -0700 Message-ID: Lines: 17 X-Mailer: Gnus v5.4.46/Emacs 19.34 Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk >>>>> "K(W" == Karl (BoBo) Was writes: KW> Got a problem with having moderation selected to "yes". [...] KW> Subject: BOUNCE vortexq@vortexq.com: Approval required: Which means you have moderation set to "yes". What's the problem? Majordomo has seen a message that it cannot send on to the list (because you have set moderated=yes) so it sends it to you for approval. KW> It does anything even remotely close to, say, sending an approval KW> message instead. That _is_ the approval message. I have a feeling you haven't read list-owner-info. Do you need a copy? - J< From majordomo-users-owner Wed Mar 4 16:34:19 1998 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-970926-1) id PAA29667; Wed, 4 Mar 1998 15:38:16 -0800 (PST) Received: from miles.greatcircle.com (miles.greatcircle.com [198.102.244.45]) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-980202-1) with ESMTP id OAA07067 for ; Wed, 4 Mar 1998 14:00:59 -0800 (PST) Received: from sina.hpc.uh.edu (Sina.HPC.UH.EDU [129.7.3.5]) by miles.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA25422 for ; Wed, 4 Mar 1998 11:05:45 -0800 (PST) Received: (from tibbs@localhost) by sina.hpc.uh.edu (8.7.3/8.7.3) id NAA29732; Wed, 4 Mar 1998 13:02:49 -0600 (CST) To: Neil A Thomson Cc: Majordomo Users list Subject: Re: Config errors with PRIVATE_xxx following upgrade References: <34FAFAF8.8043BE46@zetnet.co.uk> Mime-Version: 1.0 (generated by tm-edit 7.100) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII From: Jason L Tibbitts III Date: 04 Mar 1998 13:02:49 -0600 In-Reply-To: Neil A Thomson's message of Mon, 02 Mar 1998 18:31:20 +0000 Message-ID: Lines: 16 X-Mailer: Gnus v5.4.46/Emacs 19.34 Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk >>>>> "NAT" == Neil A Thomson writes: NAT> This key was known before, and is in the config file when I request a NAT> copy. Those variables don't exist in 1.94.x. That explains the error. private_* is replaced by *_access. Running a writeconfig command will give you a clean file. NAT> PS I only found this list yesterday so apologies if this has been NAT> covered before. You can see if it's been covered before (it has, many times) by checking the archives at http://www.hpc.uh.edu/majordomo-users/. - J< From majordomo-users-owner Wed Mar 4 16:41:13 1998 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-970926-1) id PAA29704; Wed, 4 Mar 1998 15:39:26 -0800 (PST) Received: from miles.greatcircle.com (miles.greatcircle.com [198.102.244.45]) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-980202-1) with ESMTP id NAA03396 for ; Wed, 4 Mar 1998 13:46:54 -0800 (PST) Received: from sina.hpc.uh.edu (Sina.HPC.UH.EDU [129.7.3.5]) by miles.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA27204 for ; Wed, 4 Mar 1998 12:42:00 -0800 (PST) Received: (from tibbs@localhost) by sina.hpc.uh.edu (8.7.3/8.7.3) id OAA01887; Wed, 4 Mar 1998 14:39:22 -0600 (CST) To: Pete Ehlke Cc: majordomo-users@GreatCircle.COM Subject: Re: hotmail and rocketmail .sigs? References: <199803042020.PAA03351@listserv.music.sony.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 (generated by tm-edit 7.100) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII From: Jason L Tibbitts III Date: 04 Mar 1998 14:39:22 -0600 In-Reply-To: Pete Ehlke's message of Wed, 04 Mar 1998 15:20:27 -0500 Message-ID: Lines: 16 X-Mailer: Gnus v5.4.46/Emacs 19.34 Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk >>>>> "PE" == Pete Ehlke writes: PE> Yeah, perhaps it could also look for lines starting with underscores ;) Oh, those are underscores. Oops. In that case, there's an even simpler solution. Change if ($cmd eq "end") { print REPLY "END OF COMMANDS\n"; last; } to if ($cmd eq "end" || $cmd =~ /^_/) { print REPLY "END OF COMMANDS\n"; last; } You only need to wedge in before the split() if you want to match the whole line. I was thinking that the signatures were attached without any kind of separator at all, so the "Get your..." was the first thing you saw. - J< From majordomo-users-owner Wed Mar 4 16:42:59 1998 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-970926-1) id NAA01648; Wed, 4 Mar 1998 13:41:24 -0800 (PST) Received: from miles.greatcircle.com (miles.greatcircle.com [198.102.244.45]) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-980202-1) with ESMTP id NAA01232 for ; Wed, 4 Mar 1998 13:40:03 -0800 (PST) Received: from dt050ndd.san.rr.com (dt050ndd.san.rr.com [204.210.31.221]) by miles.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA27826 for ; Wed, 4 Mar 1998 13:12:45 -0800 (PST) Received: from san.rr.com (dougdougdougdoug@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by dt050ndd.san.rr.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id NAA06212; Wed, 4 Mar 1998 13:11:13 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from Studded@san.rr.com) Message-ID: <34FDC371.2AF14227@san.rr.com> Date: Wed, 04 Mar 1998 13:11:13 -0800 From: Studded Organization: Triborough Bridge & Tunnel Authority X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (X11; I; FreeBSD 2.2.5-STABLE-0303 i386) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Neil A Thomson CC: Majordomo Users list Subject: Re: Config errors with PRIVATE_xxx following upgrade References: <34FAFAF8.8043BE46@zetnet.co.uk> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk Neil A Thomson wrote: > > I administer a majordomo list but have nothing to do with the machine it > is on. > > My ISP upgraded from 1.93.? to 1.94.1 and now when I try to change the > config file I get an error message saying : What you want to do is send majordomo a letter with this in the body: writeconfig list putyourpasswordhere end Then download and edit the new file, being careful not to wrap the lines in your response. Good luck, Doug -- *** Chief Operations Officer, DALnet IRC network *** *** Proud operator, designer and maintainer of the world's largest *** Internet Relay Chat server. 5,328 clients and still growing. *** Try spider.dal.net on ports 6662-4 (Powered by FreeBSD) From majordomo-users-owner Wed Mar 4 16:49:55 1998 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-970926-1) id OAA14735; Wed, 4 Mar 1998 14:38:39 -0800 (PST) Received: from miles.greatcircle.com (miles.greatcircle.com [198.102.244.45]) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-980202-1) with ESMTP id NAA04387 for ; Wed, 4 Mar 1998 13:50:11 -0800 (PST) Received: from sina.hpc.uh.edu (Sina.HPC.UH.EDU [129.7.3.5]) by miles.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA26845 for ; Wed, 4 Mar 1998 12:20:20 -0800 (PST) Received: (from tibbs@localhost) by sina.hpc.uh.edu (8.7.3/8.7.3) id OAA01587; Wed, 4 Mar 1998 14:17:33 -0600 (CST) To: Pete Ehlke Cc: majordomo-users@GreatCircle.COM Subject: Re: hotmail and rocketmail .sigs? References: <199803042002.PAA02399@listserv.music.sony.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 (generated by tm-edit 7.100) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII From: Jason L Tibbitts III Date: 04 Mar 1998 14:17:33 -0600 In-Reply-To: Pete Ehlke's message of Wed, 04 Mar 1998 15:02:20 -0500 Message-ID: Lines: 26 X-Mailer: Gnus v5.4.46/Emacs 19.34 Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk >>>>> "PE" == Pete Ehlke writes: PE> The regex that I'm looking for now is their bogus .sig seperator: But current version (1.94.4 and probably earlier) will stop processing if it sees any line starting with a dash, as long as the message isn't a MIME multipart one. Hence this code: elsif ($cmd =~ /^-/ && (!defined($hdrs{'content-type'}) || $hdrs{'content-type'} !~ /multipart/i)) { # treat lines beginning with "-" as END only if this is NOT a MIME # multipart msg. MIME messages should have "Content-Type:" # headers, and multipart messages should have the string # "multipart" somewhere in that header. If we just look for # Content-Type: we trap messages with Content-Type: text/plain, # which is pretty common these days. print REPLY "END OF COMMANDS\n"; last; } If you want true MIME processing you'll have to wait for Majordomo2. - J< From majordomo-users-owner Wed Mar 4 16:51:59 1998 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-970926-1) id OAA15094; Wed, 4 Mar 1998 14:41:10 -0800 (PST) Received: from miles.greatcircle.com (miles.greatcircle.com [198.102.244.45]) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-980202-1) with ESMTP id OAA12304 for ; Wed, 4 Mar 1998 14:21:14 -0800 (PST) Received: from prescienttech.com (londo.prescienttech.com [199.103.216.62]) by miles.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id HAA21621 for ; Wed, 4 Mar 1998 07:31:04 -0800 (PST) Received: from gkar.prescienttech.com. (gkar.prescienttech.com [111.17.19.1]) by prescienttech.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id KAA10162 for ; Wed, 4 Mar 1998 10:18:26 -0500 From: Rich Pieri To: majordomo-users@GreatCircle.COM Subject: Re: hotmail and rocketmail .sigs? References: <199802271514.KAA23173@listserv.music.sony.com> X-No-Archive: yes Mail-Copies-To: never Date: 04 Mar 1998 10:18:25 -0500 In-Reply-To: Pete Ehlke's message of "Fri, 27 Feb 1998 10:14:54 -0500" Message-ID: Lines: 33 X-Mailer: Gnus v5.4.66/Emacs 19.34 Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- >>>>> "PE" == Pete Ehlke writes: PE> Before I reinvent the wheel, I wonder if anyone has taken steps to PE> prevent this at their own site. Call me a BOFH, but what as they are advertising their services on my systems without my permission and without compensating me for it, I use this in my majordomo.cf: $global_taboo_body = <<'END'; /Get Your Private, Free Email at/i /Get free e-mail and a permanent address at/i /Free web-based e-mail, Forever, From anywhere!/i END -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 4.0 Business Edition Charset: noconv iQCVAwUBNP1wp56VRH7BJMxHAQEAlgP/RAsw5OvbSLur/zyKiBKNOaMpRF7MobsV wsdbYnE5FdtCmveedr5ZsCa2wRh4WPUt9L3fRWbraH1mZp/6kbhsXDasB+jZrqV/ MWmQ9lca8LxR53VoKOYCYs8kEoNSXRjO0MJc71DTww1wIsWMF9659Bl6E+1KqTFl xuzcgl2gGYI= =p8BN -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- Rich Pieri / Happy Fun Ball contains a liquid Sysmonster, Unix Wrangler / core, which, if exposed due to Prescient Technologies, Inc. / rupture, should not be touched, I speak for myself, not PTI or SWEC / inhaled, or looked at. From majordomo-users-owner Wed Mar 4 17:00:56 1998 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-970926-1) id PAA20327; Wed, 4 Mar 1998 15:07:27 -0800 (PST) Received: from naic.org (naic.org [204.71.111.10]) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-980202-1) with ESMTP id OAA15082 for ; Wed, 4 Mar 1998 14:41:02 -0800 (PST) Received: from LMS.NAIC.ORG ([165.103.12.3]) by gateway.naic.org with SMTP id <155011>; Wed, 4 Mar 1998 16:37:38 -0600 Received: by LMS.NAIC.ORG (Soft-Switch LMS 2.0) with OAS via MSMAIL id 0033300000264886; Wed, 4 Mar 1998 16:42:39 -0600 From: "JSkaggs@NAIC.ORG" To: "(a)naic.org" Message-ID: <0033300000264886000002L062*@MHS> Date: Wed, 4 Mar 1998 16:42:39 -0600 Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk Is there anyone out there that will work with me one-on-one through e-mail? I'm having a lot of problems trying to get Majordomo to work. Someone else installed the software before I came around so I couldn't watch what he was doing. As of right now I receive no response at all from majordomo. I can't find the messages I have sent anywhere. I never received an error from our mail system so I don't know where the messages went. I've read the FAQs a couple of times but still don't get my questions answered. Will someone please contact me? Thanks in advance-- jen %-) jskaggs@naic.org From majordomo-users-owner Wed Mar 4 17:00:58 1998 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-970926-1) id PAA29891; Wed, 4 Mar 1998 15:43:16 -0800 (PST) Received: from miles.greatcircle.com (miles.greatcircle.com [198.102.244.45]) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-980202-1) with ESMTP id OAA07072 for ; Wed, 4 Mar 1998 14:01:00 -0800 (PST) Received: from sina.hpc.uh.edu (Sina.HPC.UH.EDU [129.7.3.5]) by miles.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA25380 for ; Wed, 4 Mar 1998 11:03:24 -0800 (PST) Received: (from tibbs@localhost) by sina.hpc.uh.edu (8.7.3/8.7.3) id NAA29690; Wed, 4 Mar 1998 13:00:42 -0600 (CST) To: David Ray Cc: majordomo-users@GreatCircle.COM Subject: Re: Majordomo Problem. References: Mime-Version: 1.0 (generated by tm-edit 7.100) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII From: Jason L Tibbitts III Date: 04 Mar 1998 13:00:42 -0600 In-Reply-To: David Ray's message of Mon, 2 Mar 1998 07:42:38 -0700 (MST) Message-ID: Lines: 17 X-Mailer: Gnus v5.4.46/Emacs 19.34 Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk >>>>> "DR" == David Ray writes: DR> chmod(33204, "/usr/local/majordomo/lists/in-out/bored.new"): Operation DR> not permitted. Majordomo is not running as the proper user, or the permissions are incorrectly set. DR> I know this sounds like a permissions problem, and I have gone through DR> them, but cannot seem to find what is causing this. It is. Perhaps you could have included a directory listing so we could point out the error? No matter; this only happens if the wrapper is not setuid, or if it was in the past installed not-setuid and then one of the list files picked up the wrong owner. - J< From majordomo-users-owner Wed Mar 4 17:11:04 1998 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-970926-1) id PAA01514; Wed, 4 Mar 1998 15:48:38 -0800 (PST) Received: from miles.greatcircle.com (miles.greatcircle.com [198.102.244.45]) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-980202-1) with ESMTP id OAA12293 for ; Wed, 4 Mar 1998 14:21:13 -0800 (PST) Received: from gsulaw.gsu.edu (gsulaw.Gsu.EDU [131.96.159.141]) by miles.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id HAA21520 for ; Wed, 4 Mar 1998 07:26:26 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (lawppw@localhost) by gsulaw.gsu.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id KAA32200; Wed, 4 Mar 1998 10:23:47 -0500 Date: Wed, 4 Mar 1998 10:23:47 -0500 (EST) From: Patrick Wiseman Reply-To: Patrick Wiseman To: Pete Ehlke cc: majordomo-users@GreatCircle.COM Subject: Re: hotmail and rocketmail .sigs? In-Reply-To: <199802271514.KAA23173@listserv.music.sony.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk On Fri, 27 Feb 1998, Pete Ehlke wrote: :I run a large majordomo installation- nearly 300 lists, 700,000 zubscribers. :I get 400-500 zubscribe/unzubscribe messages per week from hotmail.com :alone. Problem is, neither hotmail nor yahoo-rocketmail use a standard :.sig seperator, and their default .sig starts with the word "G*t". :Majordomo of course interprets this as a g*t request, and fails, :generating a H*lp message for *every* hotmail or yahoo zubscribe/ :unzubscribe message. (I wonder if I've successfully avoided administrivia -- there was a lot in that paragraph :) You could tell your zubscribers to put an "end" statement immediately after the "zubscribe" statement -- then mj wouldn't process the sig. Patrick From majordomo-users-owner Wed Mar 4 17:12:12 1998 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-970926-1) id OAA15151; Wed, 4 Mar 1998 14:41:46 -0800 (PST) Received: from miles.greatcircle.com (miles.greatcircle.com [198.102.244.45]) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-980202-1) with ESMTP id NAA05104 for ; Wed, 4 Mar 1998 13:52:46 -0800 (PST) Received: from listserv.music.sony.com (listserv.music.sony.com [206.41.6.55]) by miles.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA26681 for ; Wed, 4 Mar 1998 12:08:14 -0800 (PST) Received: from listserv.music.sony.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by listserv.music.sony.com (8.8.8/8.8.8/97.11-PDE) with ESMTP id PAA02399; Wed, 4 Mar 1998 15:02:26 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199803042002.PAA02399@listserv.music.sony.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0.1 12/23/97 To: Jason L Tibbitts III cc: majordomo-users@GreatCircle.COM Subject: Re: hotmail and rocketmail .sigs? In-reply-to: Your message of "04 Mar 1998 12:58:18 CST." Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Wed, 04 Mar 1998 15:02:20 -0500 From: Pete Ehlke Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk sendmail told me that Jason L Tibbitts III said: > PE> Problem is, neither hotmail nor yahoo-rocketmail use a standard .sig > PE> seperator, and their default .sig starts with the word "Get". > This is of course incredibly bogus and those services need to be yelled at. Indeed. I've yelled. Nothing happened. > > In the meantime, if you know what the signatures look like it's not > difficult to have Majordomo recognize the start of the bogus signature and > have it stop processing there. > [code snipped] > > if (/^Get your free yahoo/) { > print REPLY "FOUND BUGUS YAHOO SIG; END OF COMMANDS\n"; > last; > } > Heh. This is perfect, and works. I bow in your direction, sir. The regex that I'm looking for now is their bogus .sig seperator: /^_____________________________/ It's pretty sad that even most M$ products get this bit right. If there's anyone at hotmail or yahoo reading this list, could you please, please try to get this addressed? > A harder method might be to alter the get command to ignore certain > arguments, but that is, well, harder. > Yeah, I tried, and it was... well, harder :). -P. -- Pete Ehlke Sys Admin type @ Sony Music Entertainment "Once is happenstance, twice is coincidence, three times is enemy action." -Ian Fleming From majordomo-users-owner Wed Mar 4 17:19:40 1998 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-970926-1) id OAA15190; Wed, 4 Mar 1998 14:42:57 -0800 (PST) Received: from miles.greatcircle.com (miles.greatcircle.com [198.102.244.45]) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-980202-1) with ESMTP id OAA08101 for ; Wed, 4 Mar 1998 14:06:15 -0800 (PST) Received: from spsem02.sps.mot.com (spsem02.sps.mot.com [192.70.231.5]) by miles.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id JAA24619 for ; Wed, 4 Mar 1998 09:41:00 -0800 (PST) Received: from mogate.sps.mot.com by spsem02.sps.mot.com (4.1/SMI-4.1/Email 2.1 10/25/93) id AA04096 for dcasals@abaforum.es; Wed, 4 Mar 98 09:11:26 MST Received: from risc.risc.sps.mot.com by mogate.sps.mot.com (4.1/SMI-4.1/Email-2.0) id AA27555 for majordomo-users@greatcircle.com; Wed, 4 Mar 98 09:10:30 MST Received: from miaow.risc.sps.mot.com (miaow.risc.sps.mot.com [223.72.249.15]) by risc.risc.sps.mot.com (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id KAA05595; Wed, 4 Mar 1998 10:10:29 -0600 (CST) Received: (from dwolfe@localhost) by miaow.risc.sps.mot.com (8.7.1/8.7.3) id KAA06690; Wed, 4 Mar 1998 10:12:03 -0600 From: Dave Wolfe Message-Id: <199803041612.KAA06690@miaow.risc.sps.mot.com> Subject: Re: approve script???? To: dcasals@abaforum.es (Rafael segovia) Date: Wed, 4 Mar 1998 10:12:02 -0600 (CST) Cc: majordomo-users@GreatCircle.COM (Majordomo user's mailing list) In-Reply-To: <2.2.32.19980304205630.006732b8@mail.abaforum.es> from "Rafael segovia" at Mar 4, 98 02:56:30 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL25 PGP3 *ALPHA*] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk [ Inappropriate for Mj-workers, so I redirected this reply to Mj-users ] [ Rafael segovia writes: ] > > Now reading in the majordomo manual about approve there are somethings that > confuse me. It says: > > approve uses a file named .majordomo....,the file has an entry for each of > the owner's lists: > the list name,the password, and the email address of its majordomo server. > > ex: > donut-makers pass1 majordomo@bakers.org > mud-xxxx pass2 majordomo@foo.bar.com > > Till here I can understand that the person who is running approve could be > owner of lists in different servers,but then this means that this person > shoul have a file .majordomo in a directory /home/majordom in his computer. > (Am I right??) That's correct. The text in the man page just before what you paraphrased states that quite explicitly (emphasis added): CONFIGURATION approve assumes that the approve password for each list is the same as the approval password used by resend, and that this password is stored in a file called .majordomo IN THE USER'S HOME DIRECTORY. The file has the following format: > another doubt: when you use approve you write "approve file " . Where is > the password then?? In your $HOME/.majordomo file, of course. That's half the purpose of that file (the other half being the address of the Mj server to mail the approved bounce to). -- Dave Wolfe From majordomo-users-owner Wed Mar 4 17:21:58 1998 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-970926-1) id PAA29584; Wed, 4 Mar 1998 15:37:15 -0800 (PST) Received: from miles.greatcircle.com (miles.greatcircle.com [198.102.244.45]) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-980202-1) with ESMTP id NAA05067 for ; Wed, 4 Mar 1998 13:52:35 -0800 (PST) Received: from Masters.leader-group.com ([207.43.149.7]) by miles.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA26529 for ; Wed, 4 Mar 1998 11:56:30 -0800 (PST) Received: from leader-group.com ([207.43.149.7]) by Masters.leader-group.com (Netscape Messaging Server 3.0) with ESMTP id AAA7734 for ; Wed, 4 Mar 1998 11:50:57 -0800 Message-ID: <34FDB0A1.F11C0CE@leader-group.com> Date: Wed, 04 Mar 1998 11:50:57 -0800 From: Brian McCloskey X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.03 [en] (X11; I; SunOS 5.5.1 sun4u) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: majordomo-users@GreatCircle.COM Subject: setting up majordomo Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk I was wondering if anybody has ever installed majordomo while using netscapes mail server. We are having a problem with being able to set up aliases so that mail is routed through the wrapper. We are getting the following error ... sendmail: didn't accept any recipients. sendmail: Message saved in /dead.letter Thanks for any information that anybody can provide me with. Brian From majordomo-users-owner Wed Mar 4 19:49:16 1998 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-970926-1) id OAA15253; Wed, 4 Mar 1998 14:43:30 -0800 (PST) Received: from miles.greatcircle.com (miles.greatcircle.com [198.102.244.45]) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-980202-1) with ESMTP id OAA07106 for ; Wed, 4 Mar 1998 14:01:07 -0800 (PST) Received: from sina.hpc.uh.edu (Sina.HPC.UH.EDU [129.7.3.5]) by miles.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA25319 for ; Wed, 4 Mar 1998 11:01:04 -0800 (PST) Received: (from tibbs@localhost) by sina.hpc.uh.edu (8.7.3/8.7.3) id MAA29625; Wed, 4 Mar 1998 12:58:18 -0600 (CST) To: Pete Ehlke Cc: majordomo-users@GreatCircle.COM Subject: Re: hotmail and rocketmail .sigs? References: <199802271514.KAA23173@listserv.music.sony.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 (generated by tm-edit 7.100) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII From: Jason L Tibbitts III Date: 04 Mar 1998 12:58:18 -0600 In-Reply-To: Pete Ehlke's message of Fri, 27 Feb 1998 10:14:54 -0500 Message-ID: Lines: 45 X-Mailer: Gnus v5.4.46/Emacs 19.34 Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk >>>>> "PE" == Pete Ehlke writes: PE> Problem is, neither hotmail nor yahoo-rocketmail use a standard .sig PE> seperator, and their default .sig starts with the word "Get". This is of course incredibly bogus and those services need to be yelled at. In the meantime, if you know what the signatures look like it's not difficult to have Majordomo recognize the start of the bogus signature and have it stop processing there. Look at "majordomo" (the script) and note the lines: print REPLY ">>>> $_"; # echo the line we are processing $_ = &chop_nl($_); # strip any trailing newline s/^\s*#.*//g; # strip comments s/^\s*//g; # strip leading whitespace s/\s*$//g; # strip trailing whitespace s/\\ /\001/g; # protected escaped whitepace #### Here @parts = split(" "); # split into component parts grep(s/\001/ /, @parts); # replace protected whitespace with # whitespace $cmd = shift(@parts); # isolate the command $cmd =~ tr/A-Z/a-z/; # downcase the command if ($cmd eq "") { next; } # skip blank lines # figure out what to do and do it # the "do_*" routines implement specific Majordomo commands. # they are all passed the same arguments: @parts. $count++; # assume it's a valid command, so count it. if ($cmd eq "end") { print REPLY "END OF COMMANDS\n"; last; } At the indicated line, insert things like if (/^Get your free yahoo/) { print REPLY "FOUND BUGUS YAHOO SIG; END OF COMMANDS\n"; last; } Add additional regexps as necessary. A harder method might be to alter the get command to ignore certain arguments, but that is, well, harder. - J< From majordomo-users-owner Wed Mar 4 23:19:27 1998 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-970926-1) id XAA07441; Wed, 4 Mar 1998 23:15:38 -0800 (PST) Received: from Relay4.Romania.EU.net (main.Romania.EU.net [193.226.128.11]) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-980202-1) with ESMTP id XAA07403 for ; Wed, 4 Mar 1998 23:15:28 -0800 (PST) Received: from decebalus.RO.EU.net (decebalus.RO.EU.net [193.226.128.160]) by Relay4.Romania.EU.net (8.8.8-EU/8.8.8/EUI_RO-AntiSpam) with SMTP id JAA21115 for ; Thu, 5 Mar 1998 09:14:52 +0200 (EET) Received: by decebalus.RO.EU.net with Microsoft Mail id <01BD4817.1388C4E0@decebalus.RO.EU.net>; Thu, 5 Mar 1998 09:14:18 +0200 Message-ID: <01BD4817.1388C4E0@decebalus.RO.EU.net> From: Marius Panait To: "Musers (E-mail)" Subject: bcc Date: Thu, 5 Mar 1998 09:14:17 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk i installed sendmail 8.8.8 and majordomo 1.94.4. i set up a list. until now everything it's ok. but, if i send emails with no To: and Cc: and with "Bcc: list_name", then the sendmail/majordomo expand the list and puts ALL subscribers in To: field. somebody knows the problem? marius From majordomo-users-owner Wed Mar 4 23:35:07 1998 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-970926-1) id XAA10597; Wed, 4 Mar 1998 23:27:06 -0800 (PST) Received: from clifford.inch.com (clifford.inch.com [207.240.140.163]) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-980202-1) with ESMTP id XAA10478 for ; Wed, 4 Mar 1998 23:26:41 -0800 (PST) Received: (from omar@localhost) by clifford.inch.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) id CAA22189; Thu, 5 Mar 1998 02:18:33 -0500 Message-ID: <19980305021833.46376@clifford.inch.com> Date: Thu, 5 Mar 1998 02:18:33 -0500 From: Omar Thameen To: majordomo-users@GreatCircle.COM Subject: wilma and glimpse Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Mailer: Mutt 0.81 Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk I'm still working on getting everything working and automated in the wilma package. I'm hoping someone might be able to help with a couple wilma/glimpse problems I'm having. There's no glimpse discussion list, but I've emailed the developers, offered to create one, and should have it going in the next week. On to my questions. First, even though I set the INDEX_MODE = 0644 in the wilma list.cf file, the .glimpse_* files still get created with permissions 600. Any ideas? Second, I'm using glimpse 4.1, and the glimpseindex flag that lets you merge indices (-f), doesn't work for me. It gives me $ glimpseindex -f -o tmp This is glimpseindex version 4.1, 1997. merge: paþþÿ¤ Indexing "/home/omar/tmp" ... [...] and corrupts the database, causing a segmentation fault when I subsequently try to glimpse through it. I'm testing at the command line here so I can see what the problem is. Anyone else having/had this problem? Omar From majordomo-users-owner Thu Mar 5 06:05:27 1998 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-970926-1) id FAA04477; Thu, 5 Mar 1998 05:03:02 -0800 (PST) Received: from supelec.supelec.fr (supelec.supelec.fr [160.228.120.192]) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-980202-1) with SMTP id FAA04470 for ; Thu, 5 Mar 1998 05:02:41 -0800 (PST) Received: by supelec.supelec.fr id AA19198; Thu, 5 Mar 1998 14:01:57 +0100 Date: Thu, 5 Mar 1998 13:58:02 +0200 Message-Id: <98030513580243@supelec.fr> From: Daniel.Clar@supelec.fr (Daniel Clar) To: majordomo-users@greatcircle.com Subject: Restricting mail by domain names ? X-Vms-To: SMTP%"majordomo-users@GreatCircle.COM" X-Vms-Cc: DC Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk Hello, I know that it's possible to prevent people not registered to a mailing list to send e-mail to the list. For us it could be much more convenient to restrict e-mail to the list to people having their e-mail address in 3 or 4 different domains without considering theri individual names. Is it already possible or could it be considered for a future release ? Thanks Daniel o=o=o=o=o=o=o=o=o=o=o=o=o=o=o=o=o=o=o=o=o=o=o=o=o=o=o=o=o=o=o=o=o=o=o=o=o=o=o | Daniel Clar e-mail : Daniel.Clar@supelec.fr | | Computer Operations Manager : dc@supelec.fr | | Service Informatique Supelec and | | Plateau de Moulon DECUSF::CLAR_D or | | 91192 Gif sur Yvette Cedex - France Daniel.Clar@decus.fr | | Tel : (33 1) 69 85 14 87 Fax : (33 1) 69 85 12 34 | o=o=o=o=o=o=o=o=o=o=o=o=o=o=o=o=o=o=o=o=o=o=o=o=o=o=o=o=o=o=o=o=o=o=o=o=o=o=o From majordomo-users-owner Thu Mar 5 06:05:27 1998 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-970926-1) id FAA10968; Thu, 5 Mar 1998 05:34:26 -0800 (PST) Received: from gsulaw.gsu.edu (gsulaw.Gsu.EDU [131.96.159.141]) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-980202-1) with ESMTP id FAA10961 for ; Thu, 5 Mar 1998 05:34:20 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (lawppw@localhost) by gsulaw.gsu.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id IAA06871; Thu, 5 Mar 1998 08:27:57 -0500 Date: Thu, 5 Mar 1998 08:27:57 -0500 (EST) From: Patrick Wiseman To: Marius Panait cc: "Musers (E-mail)" Subject: Re: bcc In-Reply-To: <01BD4817.1388C4E0@decebalus.RO.EU.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk On Thu, 5 Mar 1998, Marius Panait wrote: :but, if i send emails with no To: and Cc: and with "Bcc: list_name", then :the sendmail/majordomo expand the list and puts ALL subscribers in To: :field. I'll suppress my suspicions about why you're doing that, as I do something similar for legitimate reasons! Set up an alias in your /etc/aliases which points to nowhere, e.g.: not_a_real_address: /dev/null (Don't forget to run newaliases.) Then, address your email To: not_a_real_address and Bcc: list_name. Of course, if you don't have root access, this doesn't help. Patrick From majordomo-users-owner Thu Mar 5 06:25:24 1998 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-970926-1) id GAA12444; Thu, 5 Mar 1998 06:07:33 -0800 (PST) Received: from Relay4.Romania.EU.net (main.Romania.EU.net [193.226.128.11]) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-980202-1) with ESMTP id GAA12344 for ; Thu, 5 Mar 1998 06:07:02 -0800 (PST) Received: from decebalus.RO.EU.net (decebalus.RO.EU.net [193.226.128.160]) by Relay4.Romania.EU.net (8.8.8-EU/8.8.8/EUI_RO-AntiSpam) with SMTP id QAA24309; Thu, 5 Mar 1998 16:05:42 +0200 (EET) Received: by decebalus.RO.EU.net with Microsoft Mail id <01BD4850.78523940@decebalus.RO.EU.net>; Thu, 5 Mar 1998 16:05:08 +0200 Message-ID: <01BD4850.78523940@decebalus.RO.EU.net> From: Marius Panait To: "'Patrick Wiseman'" Cc: "Musers (E-mail)" Subject: RE: bcc Date: Thu, 5 Mar 1998 16:05:07 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk this is not a solution! if i'd be a spammer and i'd want to know the email addresses of the subscribers ... why should i do that?! marius -----Original Message----- From: Patrick Wiseman [SMTP:lawppw@gsulaw.gsu.edu] Sent: Thursday, March 05, 1998 3:28 PM To: Marius Panait Cc: Musers (E-mail) Subject: Re: bcc On Thu, 5 Mar 1998, Marius Panait wrote: :but, if i send emails with no To: and Cc: and with "Bcc: list_name", then :the sendmail/majordomo expand the list and puts ALL subscribers in To: :field. I'll suppress my suspicions about why you're doing that, as I do something similar for legitimate reasons! Set up an alias in your /etc/aliases which points to nowhere, e.g.: not_a_real_address: /dev/null (Don't forget to run newaliases.) Then, address your email To: not_a_real_address and Bcc: list_name. Of course, if you don't have root access, this doesn't help. Patrick From majordomo-users-owner Thu Mar 5 08:20:26 1998 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-970926-1) id IAA05165; Thu, 5 Mar 1998 08:15:33 -0800 (PST) Received: from spsem02.sps.mot.com (spsem02.sps.mot.com [192.70.231.5]) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-980202-1) with SMTP id IAA05094 for ; Thu, 5 Mar 1998 08:15:13 -0800 (PST) Received: from mogate.sps.mot.com by spsem02.sps.mot.com (4.1/SMI-4.1/Email 2.1 10/25/93) id AA01717 for majordomo-users@greatcircle.com; Thu, 5 Mar 98 09:14:12 MST Received: from risc.risc.sps.mot.com by mogate.sps.mot.com (4.1/SMI-4.1/Email-2.0) id AA06229 for majordomo-users@greatcircle.com; Thu, 5 Mar 98 09:13:58 MST Received: from miaow.risc.sps.mot.com (miaow.risc.sps.mot.com [223.72.249.15]) by risc.risc.sps.mot.com (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id KAA11725; Thu, 5 Mar 1998 10:13:54 -0600 (CST) Received: (from dwolfe@localhost) by miaow.risc.sps.mot.com (8.7.1/8.7.3) id KAA21188; Thu, 5 Mar 1998 10:15:28 -0600 From: Dave Wolfe Message-Id: <199803051615.KAA21188@miaow.risc.sps.mot.com> Subject: Re: approve script???? To: dcasals@abaforum.es (Rafael segovia) Date: Thu, 5 Mar 1998 10:15:28 -0600 (CST) Cc: majordomo-users@greatcircle.com (Majordomo user's mailing list) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL25 PGP3 *ALPHA*] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk [ dwolfe writes: ] > > [ Rafael segovia writes: ] > > > > Till here I can understand that the person who is running approve could be > > owner of lists in different servers,but then this means that this person > > shoul have a file .majordomo in a directory /home/majordom in his computer. > > (Am I right??) > > That's correct. The text in the man page just before what you Wow! Where was I yesterday? /home/majordom is NOT correct. Too busy to read, I guess. The rest of my answer was correct, however. > paraphrased states that quite explicitly (emphasis added): > > CONFIGURATION > approve assumes that the approve password for each list is > the same as the approval password used by resend, and that > this password is stored in a file called .majordomo IN THE > USER'S HOME DIRECTORY. The file has the following format: > > > another doubt: when you use approve you write "approve file " . Where is > > the password then?? > > In your $HOME/.majordomo file, of course. That's half the purpose of > that file (the other half being the address of the Mj server to mail the > approved bounce to). -- Dave Wolfe From majordomo-users-owner Thu Mar 5 09:05:09 1998 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-970926-1) id IAA06980; Thu, 5 Mar 1998 08:28:40 -0800 (PST) Received: from www.ditec.com.mx (ditec.com.mx [200.15.12.23]) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-980202-1) with ESMTP id IAA06910 for ; Thu, 5 Mar 1998 08:28:16 -0800 (PST) Received: from ditec.com.mx (mex3tnt-o-81.uninet.net.mx [200.38.131.81]) by www.ditec.com.mx (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA13028 for ; Thu, 5 Mar 1998 11:14:28 -0600 Message-ID: <34FED1A4.1013C02@ditec.com.mx> Date: Thu, 05 Mar 1998 10:24:05 -0600 From: Ricardo Solis Arroyo Organization: DiTec X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Majordomo Subject: I NEED HELP ABOUT CONFIG!!!! Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk HI If anybody can help me with the majordomo-1.94.4 I install de majordomo in a Linux system, and the process of instalation do it well. I can make lists and suscribes e-mail's in the lists, but the problem consist in that i can't post a message to the members of the list, in other way to said it: I can't send a e-mail to the members of the list. I don't know if this informations will useful to yours, but i add the file: "aliases" that is in the directory /etc, this is the file: # # @(#)aliases 8.2 (Berkeley) 3/5/94 # # Aliases in this file will NOT be expanded in the header from # Mail, but WILL be visible over networks or from /bin/mail. # # >>>>>>>>>> The program "newaliases" must be run after # >> NOTE >> this file is updated for any changes to # >>>>>>>>>> show through to sendmail. # # Basic system aliases -- these MUST be present. MAILER-DAEMON: postmaster postmaster: root # General redirections for pseudo accounts. bin: root daemon: root games: root ingres: root nobody: root system: root toor: root uucp: root # Well-known aliases. manager: root dumper: root operator: root # trap decode to catch security attacks decode: root # Person who should get root's mail #root: marc webmaster: ditec ####################### # Local aliases below # ####################### info: ditec majordomo: "|/home/rsolis/majordomo/wrapper majordomo" owner-majordomo: rsolis majordomo-owner: rsolis #Primera prueba test:"|/tools/majordomo/wrapper resend -l test -h cs.umb.edu test-outgoing" test-digest:test # I put the digest and archive programs on the outgoing list sothat # messages bounced by resend don't end up in the digest or archive # unless I send them through resend explicitly. test-outgoing: :include:/home/rsolis/majordomo/lists/test,"|/tools/majordomo/wrapper digest -r -C -l test-digest test-digest-outgoing","|/tools/majordomo/wrapper archive2.pl -a -m -f /usr/local/mail/archive/test/test.archive" # archive produces a monthly archive with the -m flag. test-digest-outgoing::include:/usr/local/Lists/test-digest owner-test:you, owner-test-outgoing:owner-test # note that the "-digest" and "-digest-outgoing" suffixes # are required to allow the majordomo mkdigest command, and the # config code to work properly. owner-test-digest:owner-test owner-test-digest-outgoing:owner-test test-request: "|/tools/majordomo/wrapper request-answer test" test-digest-request: "|/tools/majordomo/wrapper request-answer test-digest" test-approval:you, test-digest-approval:test-approval ...that is the file. If anybody can help me ,i apreciate to tell me the steps of the process that i said ...tanks 8) ...sorry for my english, i'am a mexican citizen that is interested in UNIX, Solarix, Silicon Graphics and Linux systems. ...to pay back the help if anybody of yours are interested in VRML or Pov Ray i can help yours. ... if you known the answer to the problem e-mail me to the following address: rsolis@ditec.com.mx rsolis@www.ditec.com.mx al438404@academ01.cem.itesm.mx rsolis@mailcity.com edgar@ditec.com.mx ------------------------------------------------------------------- Atentamente. [Atte.] Ricardo Solis Arroyo. estudiante de Ingenieria en Sistemas Computacionales. dentro del ITESM-CEM e-mail academico: [Academic e-mail] al438404@academ01.cem.itesm.mx e-mail personal: [personal e-mail] rsolis@mailcity.com ricardosolis@usa.net e-mail trabajo: [office e-mail] rsolis@ditec.com.mx p ginas www: [www pages] http://www.cem.itesm.mx/rsolis http://www-lce.cem.itesm.mx/~al438404 http://proint.cem.itesm.mx/~rsolis ------------------------------------------------------------------- ..."La inmortalidad consiste en el hecho de perdurar en la mente de las generaciones, no en que nuestra materia nunca llegue a estado de putrefacción" Ricardo Solis. ------------------------------------------------------------------- ###### ##### # # # # # # # # # # # # ###### ##### # # # # # ####### # # # # # # # # ##### # # From majordomo-users-owner Thu Mar 5 09:50:30 1998 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-970926-1) id JAA14327; Thu, 5 Mar 1998 09:05:31 -0800 (PST) Received: from ihgw2.lucent.com (ihgw2.lucent.com [207.19.48.2]) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-980202-1) with SMTP id JAA14310 for ; Thu, 5 Mar 1998 09:05:21 -0800 (PST) Received: from fonz.micro.lucent.com by ihig2.firewall.lucent.com (SMI-8.6/EMS-L sol2) id KAA06533; Thu, 5 Mar 1998 10:55:08 -0600 Received: by fonz.micro.lucent.com (8.8.6/EMS-1.2 sol2) id MAA02286; Thu, 5 Mar 1998 12:04:40 -0500 (EST) Received: by fonz.micro.lucent.com (8.8.6/EMS-1.2 sol2) id MAA02281; Thu, 5 Mar 1998 12:04:39 -0500 (EST) Date: Thu, 5 Mar 1998 12:04:39 -0500 (EST) From: ckp@micro.lucent.com (Andrew Winkler) Message-Id: <199803051704.MAA02281@fonz.micro.lucent.com> To: majordomo-users@greatcircle.com Subject: To: lines created from Bc: Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk Check the options for sendmail. One of them lets you tell sendmail how to handle messages that have no To: header. Something like NoRecipients... It is documented in the O'Reilly book. From majordomo-users-owner Thu Mar 5 10:00:17 1998 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-970926-1) id JAA16669; Thu, 5 Mar 1998 09:16:53 -0800 (PST) Received: from sun4.autoctrl.rug.ac.be (sun4.autoctrl.rug.ac.be [157.193.82.19]) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-980202-1) with SMTP id JAA16650 for ; Thu, 5 Mar 1998 09:16:44 -0800 (PST) Received: from smurf.autoctrl.rug.ac.be by sun4.autoctrl.rug.ac.be with SMTP id AA01621 (5.65c/IDA-1.4.4 for ); Thu, 5 Mar 1998 18:11:28 GMT Message-Id: <3.0.3.32.19980305181518.00719894@sun4> X-Sender: peterd@sun4 X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.3 (32) Date: Thu, 05 Mar 1998 18:15:18 +0100 To: MajorDomo Users From: Peter De Smedt Subject: Problem : MD 1.94.4 installing on Dec Alpha Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk Hello, I'm trying to install Majordomo on a Dec Workstation. Some info : - Dec Alpha Workstation 400 2/100 - MajorDomo 1.94.4 - Perl 5.004.03 - Operating System : DEC OSF/1 V3 The problem : - installation of Perl : no problem - installation of MD (with option Posix) : seems good - make wrapper , make install and make wrapper-install : OK - added aliases in /etc/sendmail.cf en /majordomo/majordomo.aliases - also a sendmail -bi (freeze with sendmail -bz is not implemented under DEC OSF/1) - wrapper config-test : OK , returns NO errors - touch : OK (as a super-user) , creates a file - echo 'lists' | mail majordomo : NOT OK as su , OK als non-privilidged user (my personal account) - as su : MD returns by mail the next error-meesage : > ----- Transcript of session follows ----- >554 "|/usr/local/etc/majordomo/wrapper majordomo"... unknown mailer error 2 What is the problem : - perl installation ?? - Majordomo installation ?? - configuration of MD (username or group) - wrapper ?? - interaction with root-user ?? Who had this kind of problem ,and can get me out of here..... Kind regards, Peter Some more info : Directory of Majordomo : -rw-rw---- 1 mailing daemon 6 Mar 4 16:09 .majordomo_registration -rw-rw-r-- 1 mailing daemon 269 Mar 5 16:51 Log drwxr-xr-x 2 mailing daemon 512 Mar 4 16:04 Tools -rwxr-xr-x 1 mailing daemon 5240 Mar 5 16:47 archive2.pl drwxr-xr-x 2 mailing daemon 512 Mar 4 16:04 bin -rwxr-xr-x 1 mailing daemon 2801 Mar 5 16:47 bounce-remind -rwxr-xr-x 1 mailing daemon 10677 Mar 5 16:47 config-test -rwxr-xr-x 1 mailing daemon 49673 Mar 5 16:47 config_parse.pl -rwxr-xr-x 1 mailing daemon 13037 Mar 5 16:47 digest drwxrwx--- 2 mailing daemon 512 Mar 5 16:51 lists -rwxr-xr-x 1 mailing daemon 64257 Mar 5 16:47 majordomo -rw-rw-rw- 1 mailing daemon 311 Mar 5 09:54 majordomo.aliases -rw-r--r-- 1 root daemon 0 Mar 5 10:17 majordomo.aliases.dir -rw-r--r-- 1 root daemon 1024 Mar 5 10:17 majordomo.aliases.pag -rw-r--r-- 1 mailing daemon 10472 Mar 5 09:42 majordomo.cf -rwxr-xr-x 1 mailing daemon 23763 Mar 5 16:47 majordomo.pl -rwxr-xr-x 1 mailing daemon 137 Mar 5 16:47 majordomo_version.pl drwxr-xr-x 4 mailing daemon 512 Mar 4 16:04 man -rwxr-xr-x 1 mailing daemon 3538 Mar 5 16:47 request-answer -rwxr-xr-x 1 mailing daemon 29526 Mar 5 16:47 resend -rw-r--r-- 1 mailing daemon 10462 Mar 5 16:47 sample.cf -rwxr-xr-x 1 mailing daemon 8060 Mar 5 16:47 shlock.pl -rwsr-xr-x 1 root daemon 32768 Mar 5 16:48 wrapper ************************************************************************ * ir. Peter De Smedt Assistent - System Manager - Research * * Universiteit Gent Vakgroep Regeltechniek en Automatisering * Gent University Dept. of Control Engineering and Automation * * Faculteit Toegepaste Wetenschappen Campus Ardoyen * Technologiepark-Zwijnaarde 9 , B-9052 Gent (Zwijnaarde) , Belgium * * Tel. (+32) 09/264.55.80 E-mail : Peter.DeSmedt@rug.ac.be * Fax. (+32) 09/264.58.39 WWW : http://www.autoctrl.rug.ac.be * * PGP-key Fingerprint : 68 30 8B D6 F1 01 64 0C B4 01 8D D6 1B C6 1E 89 * ---------------------------------------------------------------------- * Instituut voor Permanente Vorming (IVPV - FTW - RUG) * Universiteit Gent , Faculteit Toegepaste Wetenschappen * WWW : http://www.ivpv.ftw.rug.ac.be E-mail : ivpv.ftw@rug.ac.be ************************************************************************ From majordomo-users-owner Thu Mar 5 11:35:26 1998 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-970926-1) id KAA28023; Thu, 5 Mar 1998 10:15:47 -0800 (PST) Received: from piobaire.mines.uidaho.edu (piobaire.mines.uidaho.edu [129.101.8.252]) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-980202-1) with ESMTP id KAA27983 for ; Thu, 5 Mar 1998 10:15:36 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (keng@localhost) by piobaire.mines.uidaho.edu (8.8.3/8.6.12) with SMTP id KAA26992; Thu, 5 Mar 1998 10:15:09 -0800 (PST) X-Authentication-Warning: piobaire.mines.uidaho.edu: keng owned process doing -bs Date: Thu, 5 Mar 1998 10:15:09 -0800 (PST) From: Ken Gordon X-Sender: keng@piobaire.mines.uidaho.edu To: Peter De Smedt cc: MajorDomo Users Subject: Re: Problem : MD 1.94.4 installing on Dec Alpha In-Reply-To: <3.0.3.32.19980305181518.00719894@sun4> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk > >554 "|/usr/local/etc/majordomo/wrapper majordomo"... unknown mailer error 2 > > What is the problem : I had a similar problem yesterday, and to solution to my problem MAY help you. The wrapper MUST be owned by root and setuid 4775. This file, on our system, is in the directory /usr/local/domo/bin. The directory is owned by domo and the group is list. > - wrapper ?? > > Who had this kind of problem ,and can get me out of here..... Myself. > -rwsr-xr-x 1 root daemon 32768 Mar 5 16:48 wrapper This looks correct to me...except that I think the group should be the same as your other majordomo files. Anyone else? Ken Gordon From majordomo-users-owner Thu Mar 5 17:49:30 1998 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-970926-1) id RAA02008; Thu, 5 Mar 1998 17:37:30 -0800 (PST) Received: from ifi.uio.no (ifi.uio.no [129.240.64.2]) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-980202-1) with ESMTP id MAA02217 for ; Thu, 5 Mar 1998 12:57:11 -0800 (PST) Received: from solva.ifi.uio.no (1368@solva.ifi.uio.no [129.240.64.20]) by ifi.uio.no (8.8.8/8.8.7/ifi0.2) with SMTP id VAA18567 for ; Thu, 5 Mar 1998 21:56:41 +0100 (MET) Received: (from thomasg@localhost) by solva.ifi.uio.no ; Thu, 5 Mar 1998 21:56:40 +0100 Date: Thu, 5 Mar 1998 21:56:39 +0100 From: Thomas Gramstad Reply-To: thomasg@ifi.uio.no To: majordomo-users@greatcircle.com Subject: Re: bcc In-Reply-To: Patrick Wiseman 's message of Thu, 5 Mar 1998 08:27:57 -0500 (EST) References: Message-ID: Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk >> but, if i send emails with no To: and Cc: and with "Bcc: >> list_name", then the sendmail/majordomo expand the list and puts >> ALL subscribers in To: field. > I'll suppress my suspicions about why you're doing that, as I do > something similar for legitimate reasons! 'scuse me, but what could those legitimate reasons possibly be? Perhaps I'm unimaginative, but I find it hard to imagine any reason for bcc'ing a list -- it will confuse many of the subscribers, it screws up the reply-to address, it screws up filtering, etc. etc. Thomas Gramstad thomasg@ifi.uio.no From majordomo-users-owner Thu Mar 5 18:02:38 1998 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-970926-1) id RAA02883; Thu, 5 Mar 1998 17:41:27 -0800 (PST) Received: from karma.isi.com ([192.73.222.42]) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-980202-1) with ESMTP id RAA02850 for ; Thu, 5 Mar 1998 17:41:14 -0800 (PST) Received: from isi.com (argus.isi.com [192.103.55.143]) by karma.isi.com (8.8.4/8.8.4) with ESMTP id RAA13410 for ; Thu, 5 Mar 1998 17:40:45 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <34FF54CB.D6E059EA@isi.com> Date: Thu, 05 Mar 1998 17:43:39 -0800 From: "Troy S. Choi" Reply-To: tchoi@isi.com Organization: Intergrated Systems, Inc. X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Majordomo-Users@GreatCircle.COM Subject: Second Posting Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk Hi, This is second posting of same contents as I did not get an answer. I am in the process of setting up MJ and faced with a problem related with nested lists. With a "restrict_post" set to list members only, how can I avoid bounce problem to nested lists? To describe the problem in detail, lets say a list named list_A contains folowing members; list_A: a, b, list_B and list_B is another list containing following members; list_B: d, e. having identical configuration (*.config) except ownership for both lists is critical... If someone in list_A, say "a" is posting a list_A in an intention of propagating the message to both list_A & B, mail to list_B bounces to owner as "restrict_post" is set on both A & B . Is there any better method of doing this while keeping the "restrict_post" setting? It feel to me someone out there already have dealt w/ this problem and I will be very much thankful if a solution can be provided. I already searched the archive for "nested" but couldn't find same example. Also, any pointer to automatic creation/maintanace of list via. web interface will be greatly appreciated. Regards, --- Troy S. Choi From majordomo-users-owner Thu Mar 5 18:13:18 1998 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-970926-1) id RAA01976; Thu, 5 Mar 1998 17:37:20 -0800 (PST) Received: from softgate1.Softimage.COM (SoftGate1.Softimage.COM [198.168.8.130]) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-980202-1) with ESMTP id PAA26887 for ; Thu, 5 Mar 1998 15:01:29 -0800 (PST) Received: from paperboy.CORP.Softimage.COM ([157.58.88.230]) by softgate1.Softimage.COM (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id RAA11146 for ; Thu, 5 Mar 1998 17:59:00 -0500 (EST) Received: from system1.RND.Softimage.COM (system1.RND.Softimage.COM [157.58.89.224]) by paperboy.CORP.Softimage.COM (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id SAA28018 for ; Thu, 5 Mar 1998 18:00:56 -0500 (EST) Received: from system3.RND.Softimage.COM (system3.RND.Softimage.COM [157.58.89.226]) by system1.RND.Softimage.COM (8.6.9/8.6.9) with ESMTP id SAA16974 for ; Thu, 5 Mar 1998 18:00:54 -0500 From: Richard Turmel Received: (turmel@localhost) by system3.RND.Softimage.COM (8.6.9/8.6.9) id SAA05043 for majordomo-users@greatcircle.com; Thu, 5 Mar 1998 18:00:54 -0500 Message-Id: <199803052300.SAA05043@system3.RND.Softimage.COM> Subject: Message re-feeding To: majordomo-users@greatcircle.com Date: Thu, 5 Mar 1998 18:00:53 -0500 (EST) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk Does majordomo keep track of messageID sent to a list (like in the newsgroups)? I am facing the problem that some people, through misconfigured mailers or other problems, are refeeding the messages to the list thus generating duplicate emails. The only way to find it is to look at the headers and see that it originated from our site, passed through theirs and was resent by our majordomo server. Any help would be appreciated. Thank you. Richard Turmel -- Richard Turmel UNIX System Administrator Microsoft/Softimage Inc. Email: Richard.Turmel@Softimage.COM Tel: (514) 845-1636 x3372 Fax: (514) 845-5676 From majordomo-users-owner Thu Mar 5 18:34:35 1998 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-970926-1) id SAA12598; Thu, 5 Mar 1998 18:33:45 -0800 (PST) Received: from frakir.gsfc.nasa.gov (frakir.gsfc.nasa.gov [128.183.50.76]) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-980202-1) with ESMTP id SAA12542 for ; Thu, 5 Mar 1998 18:33:32 -0800 (PST) Received: (from morty@localhost) by frakir.gsfc.nasa.gov (8.8.8/8.8.8) id VAA21682; Thu, 5 Mar 1998 21:33:04 -0500 From: "Mordechai T. Abzug" Message-Id: <199803060233.VAA21682@frakir.gsfc.nasa.gov> Subject: Re: Message re-feeding To: turmel@RND.Softimage.COM (Richard Turmel) Date: Thu, 5 Mar 1998 21:33:04 -0500 (EST) Cc: majordomo-users@GreatCircle.COM In-Reply-To: <199803052300.SAA05043@system3.RND.Softimage.COM> from "Richard Turmel" at Mar 5, 98 06:00:53 pm Content-Type: text Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk Richard Turmel said: > Does majordomo keep track of messageID sent to a list (like in the > newsgroups)? I am facing the problem that some people, through > misconfigured mailers or other problems, are refeeding the messages > to the list thus generating duplicate emails. The only way to > find it is to look at the headers and see that it originated from > our site, passed through theirs and was resent by our majordomo > server. No. But if you have formail (which comes with procmail, IIRC) then you can put formail in your aliases and obtain similar functionality. The syntax is something like: alias: "|/path/formail -D 16384 /path/alias.cache | /path/majordomo -whatever" -- Mordechai Abzug Raytheon STX morty@sled.gsfc.nasa.gov Unix Administrator NASA Goddard Space Flight Center Code 242 CNE 301.286.8787 From majordomo-users-owner Thu Mar 5 20:04:38 1998 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-970926-1) id TAA29242; Thu, 5 Mar 1998 19:49:00 -0800 (PST) Received: from sina.hpc.uh.edu (Sina.HPC.UH.EDU [129.7.3.5]) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-980202-1) with ESMTP id TAA29116 for ; Thu, 5 Mar 1998 19:48:34 -0800 (PST) Received: (from tibbs@localhost) by sina.hpc.uh.edu (8.7.3/8.7.3) id VAA27629; Thu, 5 Mar 1998 21:48:13 -0600 (CST) To: tchoi@isi.com Cc: Majordomo-Users@GreatCircle.COM Subject: Re: Second Posting References: <34FF54CB.D6E059EA@isi.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 (generated by tm-edit 7.100) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII From: Jason L Tibbitts III Date: 05 Mar 1998 21:48:13 -0600 In-Reply-To: "Troy S. Choi"'s message of Thu, 05 Mar 1998 17:43:39 -0800 Message-ID: Lines: 19 X-Mailer: Gnus v5.4.46/Emacs 19.34 Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk >>>>> "TSC" == Troy S Choi writes: TSC> Hi, This is second posting of same contents as I did not get an TSC> answer. I personally didn't answer because I can barely figure out what you're trying to do, and because I'm assuming that you tried the obvious, which is to allow users from both list_a and list_b to post to list_b, like so: restrict_post = list_a:list_b If that isn't what you want, you'll have to be clearer. TSC> Also, any pointer to automatic creation/maintanace of list via. web TSC> interface will be greatly appreciated. Please see the FAQ. - J< From majordomo-users-owner Thu Mar 5 20:19:27 1998 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-970926-1) id TAA01530; Thu, 5 Mar 1998 19:56:42 -0800 (PST) Received: from brutha.thehub.com.au (brutha.thehub.com.au [203.17.162.11]) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-980202-1) with SMTP id TAA01423 for ; Thu, 5 Mar 1998 19:56:15 -0800 (PST) Received: (qmail 24161 invoked by uid 2476); 6 Mar 1998 13:59:27 +1000 Date: Fri, 6 Mar 1998 13:59:27 +1000 (EST) From: Bruce Campbell To: Richard Turmel cc: majordomo-users@GreatCircle.COM Subject: Re: Message re-feeding In-Reply-To: <199803052300.SAA05043@system3.RND.Softimage.COM> Message-ID: Organisation: Hub Communications MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk On Thu, 5 Mar 1998, Richard Turmel wrote: > Does majordomo keep track of messageID sent to a list (like in the > newsgroups)? Nope ;) > I am facing the problem that some people, through > misconfigured mailers or other problems, are refeeding the messages > to the list thus generating duplicate emails. The only way to > find it is to look at the headers and see that it originated from > our site, passed through theirs and was resent by our majordomo > server. try this: message_headers << END X-Loop: mailinglist@where.ever END taboo_headers << END /^X-Loop: mailinglist@where\.ever.*/ END So anything going out should get the X-Loop header, and anything coming in with that header should get bounced to the owner of the list ;) --==-- Bruce. Systems Administrator Hub Communications. From majordomo-users-owner Thu Mar 5 20:25:54 1998 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-970926-1) id TAA26011; Thu, 5 Mar 1998 19:35:53 -0800 (PST) Received: from brighton.dawtech.com (chris.dawtech.com [206.29.217.30]) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-980202-1) with ESMTP id TAA25970 for ; Thu, 5 Mar 1998 19:35:36 -0800 (PST) Received: from ezln23 ([207.173.21.194]) by brighton.dawtech.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id UAA19035; Thu, 5 Mar 1998 20:37:59 -0700 (MST) Message-ID: <011301bd48b0$d3ca33d0$c215adcf@ezln23.earthbroadcasting.com> From: "Chris Taylor" To: , Subject: Re: bcc Date: Thu, 5 Mar 1998 20:34:53 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.2106.4 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk >>> but, if i send emails with no To: and Cc: and with "Bcc: >>> list_name", then the sendmail/majordomo expand the list and puts >>> ALL subscribers in To: field. > >> I'll suppress my suspicions about why you're doing that, as I do >> something similar for legitimate reasons! > >'scuse me, but what could those legitimate reasons possibly be? >Perhaps I'm unimaginative, but I find it hard to imagine any reason >for bcc'ing a list -- it will confuse many of the subscribers, it >screws up the reply-to address, it screws up filtering, etc. etc. I do this, because I run a mailing list that only I am allowed to post to. I use majordomo simply to maintain the list and I use a very long outgoing alias name as my list alias. When I send email to the list, I send it "to" an account aliased to myself and I Bcc the email to the list. That way the outgoing alias stays hidden from those who might like to send their own email to my list ;). --Chris From majordomo-users-owner Thu Mar 5 20:33:04 1998 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-970926-1) id TAA26093; Thu, 5 Mar 1998 19:36:50 -0800 (PST) Received: from gsulaw.gsu.edu (gsulaw.Gsu.EDU [131.96.159.141]) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-980202-1) with ESMTP id TAA23482 for ; Thu, 5 Mar 1998 19:20:05 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (lawppw@localhost) by gsulaw.gsu.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id WAA11265; Thu, 5 Mar 1998 22:19:43 -0500 Date: Thu, 5 Mar 1998 22:19:42 -0500 (EST) From: Patrick Wiseman To: Thomas Gramstad cc: majordomo-users@GreatCircle.COM Subject: Re: bcc In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk On Thu, 5 Mar 1998, Thomas Gramstad wrote: :>> but, if i send emails with no To: and Cc: and with "Bcc: :>> list_name", then the sendmail/majordomo expand the list and puts :>> ALL subscribers in To: field. : :> I'll suppress my suspicions about why you're doing that, as I do :> something similar for legitimate reasons! : :'scuse me, but what could those legitimate reasons possibly be? :Perhaps I'm unimaginative, but I find it hard to imagine any reason :for bcc'ing a list -- it will confuse many of the subscribers, it :screws up the reply-to address, it screws up filtering, etc. etc. The email is addressed to a familiar address so it does not screw up filtering; it's used only on announce-only lists, so there's no occasion for reply-to; subscribers are added to these particular lists when they "subscribe" to webpages to which job listings are posted, and they receive the postings by email, and we don't want them posting anything to the list of people subscribed to those webpages. (Incidentally, we don't use majordomo for these lists; the aliases are just of the :include: variety.) Legitimate enough? Patrick From majordomo-users-owner Thu Mar 5 20:34:29 1998 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-970926-1) id SAA11911; Thu, 5 Mar 1998 18:29:48 -0800 (PST) Received: from frakir.gsfc.nasa.gov (frakir.gsfc.nasa.gov [128.183.50.76]) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-980202-1) with ESMTP id SAA11878 for ; Thu, 5 Mar 1998 18:29:37 -0800 (PST) Received: (from morty@localhost) by frakir.gsfc.nasa.gov (8.8.8/8.8.8) id VAA21654; Thu, 5 Mar 1998 21:29:08 -0500 From: "Mordechai T. Abzug" Message-Id: <199803060229.VAA21654@frakir.gsfc.nasa.gov> Subject: Re: Second Posting To: tchoi@isi.com Date: Thu, 5 Mar 1998 21:29:08 -0500 (EST) Cc: Majordomo-Users@GreatCircle.COM In-Reply-To: <34FF54CB.D6E059EA@isi.com> from "Troy S. Choi" at Mar 5, 98 05:43:39 pm Content-Type: text Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk Troy S. Choi said: > I am in the process of setting up MJ and faced with a problem > related with nested lists. > With a "restrict_post" set to list members only, how can I avoid > bounce problem to nested lists? > To describe the problem in detail, lets say a list named list_A > contains folowing members; > list_A: a, b, list_B > and list_B is another list containing following members; > list_B: d, e. I had a similar problem: List A consists of lists B1, B2, B3, B4, etc. All lists are restrict_post. In my case, the situation is simplified by having A *only* contain other lists. So, A contains the equivalent of the "-outgoing" alias, ie. B1-outgoing, B2-outgoing, etc. That is, posting to A bypasses the security checks for the B* lists. Note that, if you do this (or have *any* posting-restricted lists) you should not actually use listname-outgoing as your outgoing alias, and should restrict VRFY and EXPN, who, which, etc.; see the FAQ for more info. Your case is slightly complicated by having A contain users. If you maintain that topology, then you'll need to be extra restrictive on A -- you won't even be able to allow the users on A to do a who. Or, you can change things around: move the users from A to another list, B2, and have A just be a super-restricted list of lists. -- Mordechai Abzug Raytheon STX morty@sled.gsfc.nasa.gov Unix Administrator NASA Goddard Space Flight Center Code 242 CNE 301.286.8787 From majordomo-users-owner Thu Mar 5 20:42:36 1998 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-970926-1) id SAA07413; Thu, 5 Mar 1998 18:05:47 -0800 (PST) Received: from coyote.rain.org (coyote.rain.org [198.68.144.2]) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-980202-1) with ESMTP id SAA07191 for ; Thu, 5 Mar 1998 18:04:36 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (snowe@localhost) by coyote.rain.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id SAA18907 for ; Thu, 5 Mar 1998 18:04:09 -0800 (PST) Date: Thu, 5 Mar 1998 18:04:09 -0800 (PST) From: Nick Halloway To: majordomo-users@greatcircle.com Subject: Avoiding mail loops (123) Message-ID: x-no-archive: yes MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk I'm using Majordomo 1.94.4 code for a robomoderator request program. I'm wondering what the best strategy is for avoiding mailloops, that is Majordomo auto-replying to an autoresponder which replies repeatedly to the same address. I'm taking the command from the Subject: line. Mail from various daemons could be filtered out before it gets to Majordomo. I wonder if a daemon, e.g. "root" or "postmaster" would ever want to post to a newsgroup. Or is mail coming from these addresses always from a computer program? Filtering out daemons wouldn't protect against people who set up autoresponders which reply repeatedly to the same address, which does happen. What's a good strategy for that? Majordomo has some protection against replying to daemons built in, but it doesn't look like it would always stop mail loops. How often are there problems with mailloops? This program might be heavily used in practice, e.g. 5 to 50 times/day, so it needs to be well protected against looping. How often does it work to set the From: address of the mail to nobody, and the Reply-To: address of the mail to the real address? Do autoresponses and bounce messages usually not go to the Reply-To: address? Thanks ... From majordomo-users-owner Fri Mar 6 02:37:37 1998 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-970926-1) id CAA18211; Fri, 6 Mar 1998 02:09:46 -0800 (PST) Received: from miles.greatcircle.com (miles.greatcircle.com [198.102.244.45]) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-980202-1) with ESMTP id BAA11337 for ; Fri, 6 Mar 1998 01:43:19 -0800 (PST) Received: from mars.mars.unina.it (mars.mars.unina.it [143.225.199.136]) by miles.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id BAA02173 for ; Fri, 6 Mar 1998 01:41:52 -0800 (PST) Received: from esposito.mars.unina.it by mars.mars.unina.it (5.65v4.0/2.8/15Jan98-1615) id AA02358; Fri, 6 Mar 1998 10:44:34 +0100 Message-Id: <34FFC666.1C72@mars.unina.it> Date: Fri, 06 Mar 1998 10:51:56 +0100 From: Esposito Gennaro Reply-To: esposito@mars.unina.it Organization: MARS Center s.c. a r.l. X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.03 (Macintosh; I; PPC) Mime-Version: 1.0 To: Peter De Smedt Cc: MajorDomo Users Subject: Re: Problem : MD 1.94.4 installing on Dec Alpha References: <3.0.3.32.19980305181518.00719894@sun4> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk Peter De Smedt wrote: > > Hello, Ciao Peter > > I'm trying to install Majordomo on a Dec Workstation. > Some info : > - Dec Alpha Workstation 400 2/100 > - MajorDomo 1.94.4 > - Perl 5.004.03 > - Operating System : DEC OSF/1 V3 > > The problem : > - installation of Perl : no problem > - installation of MD (with option Posix) : seems good > - make wrapper , make install and make wrapper-install : OK > - added aliases in /etc/sendmail.cf en /majordomo/majordomo.aliases > - also a sendmail -bi (freeze with sendmail -bz is not implemented WHERE??? Listen, aliases must be added to aliases file NO SENDMAIL.CF!!! You should add OA aliase file... (Alternate aliases file) in the sendmail.cf but sendmail on DEC OSF/1 (3.xxx, is it correct) is Ver. 5.xx and it does not handle alternate aliases file. By this way you have to add ALL your aliases to /var/adm/sendmail/aliases (this should be the path). > under DEC OSF/1) > - wrapper config-test : OK , returns NO errors > - touch : OK (as a super-user) , creates a file > - echo 'lists' | mail majordomo : NOT OK as su , OK als non-privilidged > user (my personal account) > - as su : MD returns by mail the next error-meesage : > > ----- Transcript of session follows ----- > >554 "|/usr/local/etc/majordomo/wrapper majordomo"... unknown mailer error 2 As specified in /usr/include/errno.h #define ENOENT 2 /* No such file or directory */ > > What is the problem : > - perl installation ?? > - Majordomo installation ?? it could be > - configuration of MD (username or group) > - wrapper ?? > - interaction with root-user ?? > > Who had this kind of problem ,and can get me out of here..... > > Kind regards, > Peter > Let me know! Ciao -- ************************** MARS Center ****************************** (Microgravity Advanced Research and Support) Gennaro Esposito System & Network Manager Via Comunale Tavernola ph....: +39-81-234 4493 c/o C.A. ALENIA "R. Bonifacio" fax...: +39-81-234 7100 I-80144 - Napoli - ITALY mailto:esposito@mars.unina.it www : http://www.mars.unina.it anon. ftp : ftp://ftp.mars.unina.it ********************************************************************** From majordomo-users-owner Fri Mar 6 07:50:21 1998 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-970926-1) id HAA25776; Fri, 6 Mar 1998 07:36:55 -0800 (PST) Received: from prescienttech.com (londo.prescienttech.com [199.103.216.62]) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-980202-1) with ESMTP id HAA25740 for ; Fri, 6 Mar 1998 07:36:44 -0800 (PST) Received: from gkar.prescienttech.com. (gkar.prescienttech.com [111.17.19.1]) by prescienttech.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id KAA28934 for ; Fri, 6 Mar 1998 10:36:18 -0500 From: Rich Pieri To: majordomo-users@greatcircle.com Subject: Re: Avoiding mail loops (123) References: X-No-Archive: yes Mail-Copies-To: never Date: 06 Mar 1998 10:36:17 -0500 In-Reply-To: Nick Halloway's message of "Thu, 5 Mar 1998 18:04:09 -0800 (PST)" Message-ID: Lines: 32 X-Mailer: Gnus v5.4.66/Emacs 19.34 Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- >>>>> "NH" == Nick Halloway writes: NH> I'm wondering what the best strategy is for avoiding mailloops, that NH> is Majordomo auto-replying to an autoresponder which replies repeatedly NH> to the same address. I'm taking the command from the Subject: line. Do not use reply_to. A Reply-To header will override the default operation of an autoresponder. If your list does not set a Reply-To header pointing back at itself, autoresponders will send their replies to the originator instead of your list. Other than that, learn to use taboo_header and taboo_body, and keep a reasonably close eye on your mailing lists. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 4.0 Business Edition Charset: noconv iQCVAwUBNQAX7p6VRH7BJMxHAQHuUQP8CVHuOcEwDoIlTSRf7O/gDQrA3pybsarw EWjgTeRKJ61mVrbYOnirJ/QkWZHd5Loj/cTxSQ46pd8ScI7XtjW8GcDvZ6VCA9VS LyWpq0O5NV0ndIk7xwC2Z0hkTtq6U9s7u0Qo3AfSRR3wqpE1lumJY7lI2T3Jn+z0 TUkF4pjx1vE= =kw0e -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- Rich Pieri / Happy Fun Ball contains a liquid Sysmonster, Unix Wrangler / core, which, if exposed due to Prescient Technologies, Inc. / rupture, should not be touched, I speak for myself, not PTI or SWEC / inhaled, or looked at. From majordomo-users-owner Fri Mar 6 10:57:59 1998 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-970926-1) id KAA29664; Fri, 6 Mar 1998 10:13:01 -0800 (PST) Received: from polaris.azstarnet.com ([169.197.1.7]) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-980202-1) with ESMTP id KAB29455 for ; Fri, 6 Mar 1998 10:12:04 -0800 (PST) Received: from Pbish (dialup17ip051.tus.azstarnet.com [169.197.38.51]) by polaris.azstarnet.com (8.8.5-nerd/8.8.5) with SMTP id LAA24604 for ; Fri, 6 Mar 1998 11:11:06 -0700 (MST) Message-Id: <199803061811.LAA24604@polaris.azstarnet.com> X-Sent-via: StarNet http://www.azstarnet.com/ From: "Bob Bish" Organization: http://www.humvee.com To: majordomo-users@GreatCircle.COM Date: Fri, 6 Mar 1998 11:11:02 +0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Subject: Digest volume numbers Reply-to: bish@azstarnet.com In-reply-to: <34FFC666.1C72@mars.unina.it> Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk I've been increasing the digest volume number by one after 100 digests. For example, it recently went from Vol. 10 Number 100 to Vol. 11 Number 1. I've been doing this manually by changing the numbers in the digest config file each time. Is there a way to configure it to do this automatically? ...Bob From majordomo-users-owner Fri Mar 6 11:06:13 1998 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-970926-1) id KAA02392; Fri, 6 Mar 1998 10:23:02 -0800 (PST) Received: from neptune.pegasus.cranfield.ac.uk (neptune.pegasus.cranfield.ac.uk [138.250.1.185]) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-980202-1) with SMTP id HAA23262 for ; Fri, 6 Mar 1998 07:21:20 -0800 (PST) Received: from nassau.pegasus.cranfield.ac.uk [138.250.1.183] by neptune.pegasus.cranfield.ac.uk with smtp (Exim 1.82 #1) id 0yAyv8-00042G-00; Fri, 6 Mar 1998 15:20:22 +0000 Date: Fri, 6 Mar 1998 15:20:13 +0000 (GMT) From: Jeffrey Goldberg X-Sender: cc047@nassau.pegasus.cranfield.ac.uk Reply-To: Jeffrey Goldberg To: Marius Panait cc: "Musers (E-mail)" Subject: Re: bcc In-Reply-To: <01BD4817.1388C4E0@decebalus.RO.EU.net> Message-ID: Organization: Cranfield University Computer Centre MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk Not really a majordomo problem, but ... On Thu, 5 Mar 1998, Marius Panait wrote: > If i send emails with no To: and Cc: and with "Bcc: list_name", then > the sendmail/majordomo expand the list and puts ALL subscribers in To: > field. This is normal behavior for sendmail or any other MTA. Mail message must have something in either a to or a cc field. If not, the mail transport has the right to use the information from the envelope (or bcc) to fill in. Try: To: "undisclosed": ; Bcc: ADDRESSES Good mailers like Pine, have an "Lcc" which does this for you. -j -- Jeffrey Goldberg +44 (0)1234 750 111 x 2826 Cranfield Computer Centre FAX 751 814 J.Goldberg@Cranfield.ac.uk http://WWW.Cranfield.ac.uk/public/cc/cc047/ Relativism is the triumph of authority over truth, convention over justice. From majordomo-users-owner Fri Mar 6 14:06:42 1998 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-970926-1) id NAA07719; Fri, 6 Mar 1998 13:26:57 -0800 (PST) Received: from atle.abc.se (atle.abc.se [192.36.170.16]) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-980202-1) with ESMTP id NAA07572 for ; Fri, 6 Mar 1998 13:26:21 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (m8698@localhost) by atle.abc.se (8.8.8+Sun/8.8.5) with SMTP id WAA24204; Fri, 6 Mar 1998 22:25:45 +0100 (MET) X-Authentication-Warning: atle.abc.se: m8698 owned process doing -bs Date: Fri, 6 Mar 1998 22:25:44 +0100 (MET) From: Mats Dufberg X-Sender: m8698@atle To: Marius Panait cc: Majordomo-Users@GreatCircle.COM Subject: Re: bcc In-Reply-To: <01BD4817.1388C4E0@decebalus.RO.EU.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk On Thu, 5 Mar 1998, Marius Panait wrote: > i installed sendmail 8.8.8 and majordomo 1.94.4. > i set up a list. > until now everything it's ok. > but, if i send emails with no To: and Cc: and with "Bcc: list_name", then > the sendmail/majordomo expand the list and puts ALL subscribers in To: > field. On page 46 in "Sendmail installation and operational guide" (version 8.105 for sendmail 8.8) the option "NoRecipientAction" is described. It seems like your configuration has "Add-To" as the value of that option. ----------------------------------------------------------------- Mats Dufberg Mats.Dufberg@abc.se From majordomo-users-owner Fri Mar 6 15:35:18 1998 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-970926-1) id NAA09618; Fri, 6 Mar 1998 13:38:12 -0800 (PST) Received: from miles.greatcircle.com (miles.greatcircle.com [198.102.244.45]) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-980202-1) with ESMTP id NAA09500 for ; Fri, 6 Mar 1998 13:37:25 -0800 (PST) Received: from karma.isi.com ([192.73.222.42]) by miles.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA12200 for ; Fri, 6 Mar 1998 13:36:10 -0800 (PST) Received: from isi.com (argus.isi.com [192.103.55.143]) by karma.isi.com (8.8.4/8.8.4) with ESMTP id NAA24613; Fri, 6 Mar 1998 13:36:42 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <35006D1A.14B1CB54@isi.com> Date: Fri, 06 Mar 1998 13:39:38 -0800 From: "Troy S. Choi" Reply-To: tchoi@isi.com Organization: Intergrated Systems, Inc. X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Majordomo-Users@GreatCircle.COM Subject: Re: Second Posting Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk Thank you all for your efforts to help despite my clumsy description on the problem. I guess I was lost even in describing the nature of matter. ;) My apology to all whom I burdened with confusion, and appreciation goes to Benji, Jason and Mordechai who tried to help me. To clear the problem, here goes another attempt. Our company has an alias table about 5K lines long and about 500 aliases just for group mailing. As managing the list becomes a too much problem, I am trying to utilize MJ for the ease of management and even some level of automation with some help of Web interface CGI scripts etc... These aliases are multi-layered (often 5-6 levels) and interwoven. Some of it includes names only, some list-names only, some in mixture. Also, there are cases where the list owner is not even a member of that list... For several reasons, such as size of lists, frequent creation and deletion of lists, various computing skill level of list owners, I am trying to maintain an identical configuration for all the lists. For this reason and requirement of privacy for some lists, "restrict_post" set into all the lists and it is creating some bounce problem. Also, having to many variation on restrict_post is scaring me as it might present problems for list management automation attempt in close future (parsing, letting users(list_owners) to figure out nested lists structure, etc.). Obviously this is my first attempt on MJ and not even sure if I am taking the right approach. Out of frustration I am even thinking about substituting "parsed aliases file" for the argument of "restrict_post"(i.e. open up for employees). Any guides, pointers will be very much appreciated. BTW, following is some of current configuration highlights... administrivia = yes get_access = list index_access = list info_access = list intro_access = list moderate = no mungedomain = no resend_host = restrict_post = ListName subscribe_policy = closed unsubscribe_policy = open which_access = list who_access = list Regards, --- Troy S. Choi From majordomo-users-owner Fri Mar 6 17:19:53 1998 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-970926-1) id RAA18365; Fri, 6 Mar 1998 17:06:29 -0800 (PST) Received: from adinet.analog.com (adinet.analog.com [137.71.23.3]) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-980202-1) with SMTP id RAA18170 for ; Fri, 6 Mar 1998 17:05:31 -0800 (PST) Received: by adinet.analog.com id AA10138 (InterLock SMTP Gateway 3.0 for Majordomo-Users@GreatCircle.COM); Fri, 6 Mar 1998 20:05:15 -0500 Message-Id: <199803070105.AA10138@adinet.analog.com> Received: by adinet.analog.com (Internal Mail Agent-1); Fri, 6 Mar 1998 20:05:15 -0500 Date: Fri, 06 Mar 1998 20:05:10 -0500 From: David Meleedy Organization: Analog Devices, Inc. X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (X11; U; SunOS 5.6 sun4m) Mime-Version: 1.0 To: Majordomo-Users@GreatCircle.COM Subject: Setting up default "advertise" regexps automatically for new lists Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk Please reply directly to me as I am not on the Majordomo-Users list. I am trying to set up majordomo 1.94.4 to spit out a configuration file with some default values set for advertise, so when we create new lists, we don't have to edit the list.config file every time. I tried putting the changes into config_parse.pl, like so: 'advertise', '/\@.*\.analog\.com$/\001/\@[^.]+$/\001/^[^@]+$/', # if regexp matches address show list But the list is not generated with the default values in it, and after I quit the editor, I get the error: The new config file for cpd-test was not accepted because: |/\@.*\.analog\.com$/\001/\@[^.]+$/\001/^[^@]+$/| not a valid pattern match expression at line 0 Does anyone know how to configure majordomo to have a few default regexps in either the advertise or noadvertise fields? Thanks, -Dave -- ======================================================================== David Meleedy Analog Devices, Inc. David.Meleedy@analog.com Three Technology Way Phone: 781 461 3494 Norwood, MA 02062-9106 USA From majordomo-users-owner Fri Mar 6 22:49:55 1998 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-970926-1) id WAA17278; Fri, 6 Mar 1998 22:08:11 -0800 (PST) Received: from camel7.mindspring.com (camel7.mindspring.com [207.69.200.57]) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-980202-1) with ESMTP id VAA14642 for ; Fri, 6 Mar 1998 21:45:25 -0800 (PST) Received: from wrkst.scary.com (user-37kb6h4.dialup.mindspring.com [207.69.154.36]) by camel7.mindspring.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id AAA13383 for ; Sat, 7 Mar 1998 00:45:06 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199803070545.AAA13383@camel7.mindspring.com> From: "Larry Schauer" To: Majordomo-Users@GreatCircle.COM Date: Sat, 7 Mar 1998 00:44:32 +0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Subject: Restricting 'who' Reply-to: schauer@mindspring.com Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk I am configuring a mailing list on a system running Majordomo v1.92. The list is a distribution list (only 2 people can post) and has over 400 names in it right now. Some people are sensitive about giving out their e-mail address, so I want to restrict who can do the 'who list' command. Basically, I want to disable it for this list (except for the list owner). Is there any way to do this? I tried messing with the 'private_who' option, but majordomo complained---it expected a boolean value. I don't know if I could get the sysadmin to upgrade majordomo on this system (although it might be an option). Thanks in advance, Larry From majordomo-users-owner Sat Mar 7 04:05:07 1998 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-970926-1) id EAA23797; Sat, 7 Mar 1998 04:00:40 -0800 (PST) Received: from Kitten.mcs.com (Kitten.mcs.com [192.160.127.90]) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-980202-1) with ESMTP id EAA23788 for ; Sat, 7 Mar 1998 04:00:33 -0800 (PST) Received: from Uucp1.mcs.net (root@Uucp1.mcs.net [192.160.127.93]) by Kitten.mcs.com (8.8.7/8.8.2) with SMTP id GAA18924; Sat, 7 Mar 1998 06:00:23 -0600 (CST) Received: by Uucp1.mcs.net (/\==/\ Smail3.1.28.1 #28.17) id ; Sat, 7 Mar 98 06:00 CST Received: from david (david [10.168.100.1]) by midrange.com (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id FAA09065; Sat, 7 Mar 1998 05:49:35 -0600 Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.19980307054615.007c1100@midrange> X-Sender: david@midrange X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.5 (32) Date: Sat, 07 Mar 1998 05:46:15 -0600 To: schauer@mindspring.com From: David Gibbs Subject: Re: Restricting 'who' Cc: Majordomo-Users@GreatCircle.COM In-Reply-To: <199803070545.AAA13383@camel7.mindspring.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk At 12:44 AM 3/7/98 +0000, Larry Schauer wrote: >I am configuring a mailing list on a system running Majordomo v1.92. First, upgrade to the latest version ... 1.94.4 >The list is a distribution list (only 2 people can post) and has over >400 names in it right now. Some people are sensitive about giving >out their e-mail address, so I want to restrict who can do the 'who >list' command. Basically, I want to disable it for this list (except >for the list owner). Is there any way to do this? I tried messing >with the 'private_who' option, but majordomo complained---it expected >a boolean value. I don't know if I could get the sysadmin to upgrade >majordomo on this system (although it might be an option). In version 1.94.4, there is a configuration variable called "who_access"... here's the docs... # who_access [enum] (open) /open;closed;list/ # One of three values: open, list, closed. Open allows anyone # access to this command and closed completely disables the command # for everyone. List allows only list members access, or if # restrict_post is defined, only the addresses in those files are # allowed access. who_access = closed It works great. david -- | Internet: david@midrange.com | WWW: http://www.mcs.net/~gibbs | | ... A man can move mountains, a world can be turned, | and the greatest of distances easily spanned, | When the strength that's invested in making a fist | is transformed into shaking a hand. | | - DMRoth | | Fight Spam! Join CAUCE! == http://www.cauce.org/ From majordomo-users-owner Sat Mar 7 07:08:42 1998 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-970926-1) id GAA25774; Sat, 7 Mar 1998 06:50:28 -0800 (PST) Received: from vader.thnet.com (vader.thnet.com [206.98.115.1]) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-980202-1) with ESMTP id EAA29491 for ; Sat, 7 Mar 1998 04:29:09 -0800 (PST) Received: from default (bruce14.thnet.com [206.98.115.114]) by vader.thnet.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with SMTP id HAA21540 for ; Sat, 7 Mar 1998 07:28:57 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <35013D2C.56F1@mail.thnet.com> Date: Sat, 07 Mar 1998 07:27:24 -0500 From: bob randolph Reply-To: randolphbl@vader.thnet.com Organization: NICE DAY X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01C-KIT (Win95; U) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Majordomo-Users@GreatCircle.COM Subject: trouble subscribing Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk i am not sure if this is the proper place to ask a question but here goes.... i attempted to validate my request for the mailing list of john wayne. i rec'd an e-mail requesting me to ensure the info was accurate. i sent the msg back but got another e mail saying i goofed up. is ent it to: authb0a3fdde.secribe the duke-fans (to verify)randolphbl@thnet.com. if this is the right place to ask this question i would appreciate some help. if not, please direct me to the proper place. i am sorry for the inconvenience, i am a new user of the www, et all. just got a computer with the software to let me on the internet. in advance thank you!! From majordomo-users-owner Sat Mar 7 10:19:58 1998 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-970926-1) id KAA04439; Sat, 7 Mar 1998 10:10:22 -0800 (PST) Received: from miles.greatcircle.com (miles.greatcircle.com [198.102.244.45]) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-980202-1) with ESMTP id KAA04200 for ; Sat, 7 Mar 1998 10:09:08 -0800 (PST) Received: from watserv1.uwaterloo.ca (watserv1.uwaterloo.ca [129.97.128.10]) by miles.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA05917 for ; Sat, 7 Mar 1998 10:00:27 -0800 (PST) Received: from [129.97.68.13] (ersmac13.uwaterloo.ca [129.97.68.13]) by watserv1.uwaterloo.ca (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA09248; Sat, 7 Mar 1998 13:01:04 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Sat, 7 Mar 1998 13:14:40 +0100 To: majordomo-users@greatcircle.com From: "S. Lerner" Subject: How create archive search capability? Cc: tibbs@hpc.uh.edu Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk I have a majordomo list and a website where the list archives can be accessed. How can I make those archives searchable--by date, thread, keyword, sender--for myself and the subscribers to the list? Sally Lerner From majordomo-users-owner Sat Mar 7 13:34:43 1998 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-970926-1) id NAA05146; Sat, 7 Mar 1998 13:08:19 -0800 (PST) Received: from polaris.azstarnet.com (polaris.azstarnet.com [169.197.1.7]) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-980202-1) with ESMTP id NAA05109 for ; Sat, 7 Mar 1998 13:08:07 -0800 (PST) Received: from Pbish (dialup11ip007.tus.azstarnet.com [169.197.35.7]) by polaris.azstarnet.com (8.8.5-nerd/8.8.5) with SMTP id OAA16607 for ; Sat, 7 Mar 1998 14:07:56 -0700 (MST) Message-Id: <199803072107.OAA16607@polaris.azstarnet.com> X-Sent-via: StarNet http://www.azstarnet.com/ From: "Bob Bish" Organization: http://www.humvee.com To: Majordomo-Users@GreatCircle.COM Date: Sat, 7 Mar 1998 14:07:51 +0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Subject: Re: trouble subscribing Reply-to: bish@azstarnet.com In-reply-to: <35013D2C.56F1@mail.thnet.com> Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk > i am not sure if this is the proper place to ask a question but here > goes.... i attempted to validate my request for the mailing list of > john wayne. Why does this list NOT have restricted posting?????? ...Bob From majordomo-users-owner Sat Mar 7 14:20:27 1998 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-970926-1) id OAA15118; Sat, 7 Mar 1998 14:03:27 -0800 (PST) Received: from opus.SanDiegoCA.NCR.COM (h153-64-253-5.NCR.COM [153.64.253.5]) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-980202-1) with SMTP id OAA14922 for ; Sat, 7 Mar 1998 14:02:43 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <199803072202.OAA14922@honor.greatcircle.com> Received: by opus.SanDiegoCA.NCR.COM; 7 Mar 98 14:02:50 PST From: Bill.Houle@SanDiegoCA.NCR.COM (Bill Houle) Date: Sat, 7 Mar 1998 14:02:50 -0800 In-Reply-To: "Bob Bish" Re: trouble subscribing (Mar 7, 2:07pm) X-Mailer: Mail User's Shell (7.2.5 10/14/92) To: bish@azstarnet.com, Majordomo-Users@GreatCircle.COM Subject: Re: trouble subscribing Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk On Mar 7, 2:07pm, "Bob Bish" wrote: } Why does this list NOT have restricted posting?????? restrict_post would minorly inconvenience me since I am subscribed as a different address than I recieve, but thats beside the point. Anti-Spam would be the main I would go for it, but there are better anti-spam measures available. There are times when people ask for legitimate help from this list w/o being subscribed and we do usually try to help (as opposed to chastizing them for not subscribing first). More to the point, restrict_post would probably not stop this type of thing. So the guy might have subscribed first, and then asked. What would that get us? --bill From majordomo-users-owner Sat Mar 7 14:34:44 1998 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-970926-1) id OAA22732; Sat, 7 Mar 1998 14:31:20 -0800 (PST) Received: from polaris.azstarnet.com (polaris.azstarnet.com [169.197.1.7]) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-980202-1) with ESMTP id OAA22170 for ; Sat, 7 Mar 1998 14:29:12 -0800 (PST) Received: from Pbish (dialup11ip007.tus.azstarnet.com [169.197.35.7]) by polaris.azstarnet.com (8.8.5-nerd/8.8.5) with SMTP id PAA10065; Sat, 7 Mar 1998 15:27:49 -0700 (MST) Message-Id: <199803072227.PAA10065@polaris.azstarnet.com> X-Sent-via: StarNet http://www.azstarnet.com/ From: "Bob Bish" Organization: http://www.humvee.com To: Bill.Houle@SanDiegoCA.NCR.COM (Bill Houle) Date: Sat, 7 Mar 1998 15:27:46 +0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Subject: Re: trouble subscribing Reply-to: bish@azstarnet.com CC: Majordomo-Users@GreatCircle.COM In-reply-to: <199803072203.PAA02745@polaris.azstarnet.com> References: "Bob Bish" Re: trouble subscribing (Mar 7, 2:07pm) Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk > restrict_post would minorly inconvenience me since I am subscribed > as a different address than I recieve, I'm sure you know how to set up a "known" list. > There are times when people ask for legitimate help from this list > w/o being subscribed and we do usually try to help (as opposed to > chastizing them for not subscribing first). I don't know if people are members or not, but in the past few weeks I've seen a few such posts, like "how do I get off the so-and-so list". Members are chastised if they make off-topic posts or ask a question that was answered some months back, yet we have to waste our time and cyberspace with the non-member stuff? > More to the point, restrict_post would probably not stop this type > of thing. So the guy might have subscribed first, and then asked. What > would that get us? Doesn't happen with any of my lists. If this guy had enough of a clue to join the majordomo-users list he would have figured out the answer to his own problem. ...Bob From majordomo-users-owner Sat Mar 7 14:42:36 1998 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-970926-1) id OAA19697; Sat, 7 Mar 1998 14:20:16 -0800 (PST) Received: from coyote.rain.org (coyote.rain.org [198.68.144.2]) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-980202-1) with ESMTP id OAA19566 for ; Sat, 7 Mar 1998 14:19:46 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (snowe@localhost) by coyote.rain.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id OAA01479 for ; Sat, 7 Mar 1998 14:19:35 -0800 (PST) Date: Sat, 7 Mar 1998 14:19:33 -0800 (PST) From: Nick Halloway cc: majordomo-users@greatcircle.com Subject: Re: Avoiding mail loops (123) In-Reply-To: Message-ID: x-no-archive: yes MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk On 6 Mar 1998, Rich Pieri wrote: > NH> I'm wondering what the best strategy is for avoiding mailloops, that > NH> is Majordomo auto-replying to an autoresponder which replies repeatedly > NH> to the same address. I'm taking the command from the Subject: line. > > Do not use reply_to. A Reply-To header will override the default operation > of an autoresponder. If your list does not set a Reply-To header pointing > back at itself, autoresponders will send their replies to the originator > instead of your list. I'm only using the request part of Majordomo, the program that does subscribing, etc., not sending mail to a mailing list. What I'm concerned about is, e.g. the request address getting spam, then it sends an automated reply to the spam address, spam address doesn't exist, postmaster sends automated reply to request address, it sends an automated reply to postmaster ... Postmasters won't want to get the automated replies from Majordomo, so perhaps Majordomo should only send automated replies to senders that aren't daemons. But then, I wonder whether anyone would legitimately want to post from a daemon address -- postmaster or root or MAILER_DAEMON, to a newsgroup. Or perhaps other problems with mailloops, users who set up autoresponders that repeatedly send mail to the same address, etc. From majordomo-users-owner Sat Mar 7 18:19:58 1998 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-970926-1) id RAA06665; Sat, 7 Mar 1998 17:51:51 -0800 (PST) Received: from opus.SanDiegoCA.NCR.COM (h153-64-253-5.NCR.COM [153.64.253.5]) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-980202-1) with SMTP id RAA06494 for ; Sat, 7 Mar 1998 17:51:04 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <199803080151.RAA06494@honor.greatcircle.com> Received: by opus.SanDiegoCA.NCR.COM; 7 Mar 98 17:51:17 PST From: Bill.Houle@SanDiegoCA.NCR.COM (Bill Houle) Date: Sat, 7 Mar 1998 17:51:17 -0800 In-Reply-To: "Bob Bish" Re: trouble subscribing (Mar 7, 3:27pm) X-Mailer: Mail User's Shell (7.2.5 10/14/92) To: bish@azstarnet.com Subject: Re: trouble subscribing Cc: Majordomo-Users@GreatCircle.COM Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk On Mar 7, 3:27pm, "Bob Bish" wrote: } } > restrict_post would minorly inconvenience me since I am subscribed } > as a different address than I recieve, } } I'm sure you know how to set up a "known" list. Sidebar: This is just a "pet peeve" of mine and more appropriate to list-managers or listmom-talk, but very few admins use AKA lists. I sometimes ask of the lists I am on and am always told "too much trouble". --bill From majordomo-users-owner Sat Mar 7 21:50:07 1998 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-970926-1) id UAA01930; Sat, 7 Mar 1998 20:27:14 -0800 (PST) Received: (mcb@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-980202-1) id UAA01920 for majordomo-users@greatcircle.com; Sat, 7 Mar 1998 20:27:11 -0800 (PST) Received: from coyote.rain.org (coyote.rain.org [198.68.144.2]) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-980202-1) with ESMTP id QAA09241 for ; Wed, 4 Mar 1998 16:48:35 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (snowe@localhost) by coyote.rain.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id QAA21716 for ; Wed, 4 Mar 1998 16:47:58 -0800 (PST) Date: Wed, 4 Mar 1998 16:47:58 -0800 (PST) From: Nick Halloway To: majordomo-users@greatcircle.com Subject: Re: subscribe/confirm patch (123) Message-ID: x-no-archive: yes MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk I got the patch, thanks for the help. From majordomo-users-owner Sat Mar 7 21:55:59 1998 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-970926-1) id VAA14167; Sat, 7 Mar 1998 21:16:52 -0800 (PST) Received: from sina.hpc.uh.edu (Sina.HPC.UH.EDU [129.7.3.5]) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-980202-1) with ESMTP id VAA13992 for ; Sat, 7 Mar 1998 21:16:02 -0800 (PST) Received: (from tibbs@localhost) by sina.hpc.uh.edu (8.7.3/8.7.3) id XAA02816; Sat, 7 Mar 1998 23:16:06 -0600 (CST) To: Majordomo-Users@GreatCircle.COM Subject: Re: trouble subscribing References: <199803072107.OAA16607@polaris.azstarnet.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 (generated by tm-edit 7.100) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII From: Jason L Tibbitts III Date: 07 Mar 1998 23:16:05 -0600 In-Reply-To: "Bob Bish"'s message of Sat, 7 Mar 1998 14:07:51 +0000 Message-ID: Lines: 18 X-Mailer: Gnus v5.4.46/Emacs 19.34 Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk >>>>> "BB" == Bob Bish writes: BB> Why does this list NOT have restricted posting?????? Because it raises the cost of initial access to information and ups the burden on the list owner (which, contrary to what many people seem to think, is not me). My earlier response to exactly this question is in the archives; I see no need to repeat it here. The time is coming when Majordomo (in the form of Majordomo2) will address the problems that arise from restricting posting to list members. More specifically, there will be aliases (so a member can note all of the addresses they post from), confirmation by the poster (self-moderation instead of classic owner moderation) and good old 'nomail' (members that don't get mail). And I'm not blowing smoke here; these are all working fine on the mj2-docs list. It's getting closer to alpha all the time. - J< From majordomo-users-owner Sat Mar 7 22:04:30 1998 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-970926-1) id VAA19095; Sat, 7 Mar 1998 21:35:34 -0800 (PST) Received: from jtb (brunet.bn [202.160.8.2]) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-980202-1) with SMTP id TAA28330; Sat, 7 Mar 1998 19:59:21 -0800 (PST) From: joni@mail.com Received: from 1Cust14.max3.san-diego.ca.ms.uu.net by jtb; (5.65v3.2/1.1.8.2/03Oct95-0602PM) id AA02720; Sun, 8 Mar 1998 12:05:55 +0800 Date: Sun, 8 Mar 1998 12:05:55 +0800 Message-Id: <9803080405.AA02720@jtb> To: joni@mail.com Subject: A note from Joni Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk Hello Debbie, Just wanted to get some valuable information to you before Tom and I left for Hawaii. He and I have discovered the most incredible recruiting program for the two MLM programs we are in. I'm sending you the "URL" for a website that provides a free training course on how to recruit New Distributors using ICQ (a free 'instant contact' program) and the Vocaltec Internet Phone. This system is incredible! The originators of the program are just getting it setup, and are seeking volunteers to do the training. Tom and I both have received our training and have signed up to be volunteer trainers. There are some real advantages to becoming a trainer as you will see when you look at their site. We both believe that we can finally get over the $100,000 a year level using this great recruiting system. Check it out at: http://www.kwikfind.com/hbo/train.htm I hope this is your correct e-mail address. My hard drive crashed about a month ago and I didn't have a backup. I found what I think is your e-mail address from some old notes but I'm not absolutely sure it is the right one. Please e-mail me as soon as you get this letter so I can confirm that you received this. I've tried to call you but I haven't gotten an answer and there is no answering machine on your line. Everything is going great on this end. Hope the same is true on yours. Aloha from, Joni & Tom From majordomo-users-owner Sat Mar 7 22:04:46 1998 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-970926-1) id UAA01984; Sat, 7 Mar 1998 20:27:30 -0800 (PST) Received: (mcb@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-980202-1) id UAA01933 for majordomo-users@greatcircle.com; Sat, 7 Mar 1998 20:27:16 -0800 (PST) Received: from academ01.cem.itesm.mx (academ01.cem.itesm.mx [148.241.32.40]) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-980202-1) with ESMTP id QAA10889; Wed, 4 Mar 1998 16:57:25 -0800 (PST) Received: from puertorico (puertorico.cem.itesm.mx [148.241.61.26]) by academ01.cem.itesm.mx (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id SAA12238; Wed, 4 Mar 1998 18:56:19 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <34FDF807.6CA@academ01.cem.itesm.mx> Date: Wed, 04 Mar 1998 18:55:35 -0600 From: Ricardo Solis Arroyo Organization: RSA Systems X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.04Gold (X11; I; SunOS 5.5 sun4m) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Majordomo-Users@GreatCircle.COM, brent@GreatCircle.COM, rouilj@cs.umb.edu, cwilson@sgi.com CC: edgar@www.ditec.com.mx, rsolis@mailcity.com Subject: HELP.. Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk HI If anybody can help me with the majordomo-1.94.4 I install de majordomo in a Linux system, and the process of instalation do it well. I can make lists and suscribes e-mail's in the lists, but the problem consist in that i can't post a message to the members of the list, in other way to said it: I can't send a e-mail to the members of the list. I don't know if this informations will useful to yours, but i add the file: "aliases" that is in the directory /etc, this is the file: # # @(#)aliases 8.2 (Berkeley) 3/5/94 # # Aliases in this file will NOT be expanded in the header from # Mail, but WILL be visible over networks or from /bin/mail. # # >>>>>>>>>> The program "newaliases" must be run after # >> NOTE >> this file is updated for any changes to # >>>>>>>>>> show through to sendmail. # # Basic system aliases -- these MUST be present. MAILER-DAEMON: postmaster postmaster: root # General redirections for pseudo accounts. bin: root daemon: root games: root ingres: root nobody: root system: root toor: root uucp: root # Well-known aliases. manager: root dumper: root operator: root # trap decode to catch security attacks decode: root # Person who should get root's mail #root: marc webmaster: ditec ####################### # Local aliases below # ####################### info: ditec majordomo: "|/home/rsolis/majordomo/wrapper majordomo" owner-majordomo: rsolis majordomo-owner: rsolis #Primera prueba test:"|/tools/majordomo/wrapper resend -l test -h cs.umb.edu test-outgoing" test-digest:test # I put the digest and archive programs on the outgoing list sothat # messages bounced by resend don't end up in the digest or archive # unless I send them through resend explicitly. test-outgoing: :include:/home/rsolis/majordomo/lists/test,"|/tools/majordomo/wrapper digest -r -C -l test-digest test-digest-outgoing","|/tools/majordomo/wrapper archive2.pl -a -m -f /usr/local/mail/archive/test/test.archive" # archive produces a monthly archive with the -m flag. test-digest-outgoing::include:/usr/local/Lists/test-digest owner-test:you, owner-test-outgoing:owner-test # note that the "-digest" and "-digest-outgoing" suffixes # are required to allow the majordomo mkdigest command, and the # config code to work properly. owner-test-digest:owner-test owner-test-digest-outgoing:owner-test test-request: "|/tools/majordomo/wrapper request-answer test" test-digest-request: "|/tools/majordomo/wrapper request-answer test-digest" test-approval:you, test-digest-approval:test-approval ...that is the file. If anybody can help me ,i apreciate to tell me the steps of the process that i said ...tanks 8) ...sorry for my english, i'am a mexican citizen that is interested in UNIX, Solarix, Silicon Graphics and Linux systems. ...to pay back the help if anybody of yours are interested in VRML or Pov Ray i can help yours. ... if you known the answer to the problem e-mail me to the following address: rsolis@ditec.com.mx rsolis@www.ditec.com.mx al438404@academ01.cem.itesm.mx rsolis@mailcity.com edgar@ditec.com.mx ------------------------------------------------------------------- Atentamente. [Atte.] Ricardo Solis Arroyo. estudiante de Ingenieria en Sistemas Computacionales. dentro del ITESM-CEM e-mail academico: [Academic e-mail] al438404@academ01.cem.itesm.mx e-mail personal: [personal e-mail] rsolis@mailcity.com ricardosolis@usa.net páginas www: [www pages] http://www.cem.itesm.mx/rsolis http://www-lce.cem.itesm.mx/~al438404 http://proint.cem.itesm.mx/~rsolis ------------------------------------------------------------------- ..."La inmortalidad consiste en el hecho de perdurar en la mente de las generaciones, no en que nuestra materia nunca llegue a estado de putrefacción" Ricardo Solis. ------------------------------------------------------------------- ###### ##### # # # # # # # # # # # # ###### ##### # # # # # ####### # # # # # # # # ##### # # From majordomo-users-owner Sat Mar 7 23:34:51 1998 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-970926-1) id WAA24957; Sat, 7 Mar 1998 22:17:12 -0800 (PST) Received: (mcb@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-980202-1) id UAA01498 for majordomo-users@greatcircle.com; Sat, 7 Mar 1998 20:23:12 -0800 (PST) Received: from irwell.zetnet.co.uk (irwell.zetnet.co.uk [194.247.47.48]) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-980202-1) with ESMTP id LAA01978 for ; Tue, 3 Mar 1998 11:33:06 -0800 (PST) Received: from zetnet.co.uk (man-014.dialup.zetnet.co.uk [194.247.41.17]) by irwell.zetnet.co.uk (8.8.7/8.8.5) with ESMTP id TAA09815 for ; Tue, 3 Mar 1998 19:40:21 GMT Message-ID: <34FC5C9D.B960CE9E@zetnet.co.uk> Date: Tue, 03 Mar 1998 19:40:13 +0000 From: Neil A Thomson X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Majordomo Users list Subject: Config errors with PRIVATE_xxx following upgrade Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk I administer a majordomo list but have nothing to do with the machine it is on. My ISP upgraded from 1.93.? to 1.94.1 and now when I try to change the config file I get an error message saying : The new config file for xyz was NOT accepted because: unknown key |private_get| in file xyz.new.config at line 268 unknown key |private_index| in file xyz.new.config at line 273 unknown key |private_info| in file xyz.new.config at line 279 unknown key |private_which| in file xyz.new.config at line 284 unknown key |private_who| in file xyz.new.config at line 289 This key was known before, and is in the config file when I request a copy. Any ideas what's going on? Thanks. PS I only found this list yesterday so apologies if this has been covered before. -- ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Captain Neil A. Thomson, C.A. E-mail: na.thomson@zetnet.co.uk Assistant Director of Education, Anglican Diocese of Rochester, UK. & Secretary, Diaconal Association of the Church of England http://www.users.zetnet.co.uk/dace/thomson From majordomo-users-owner Sun Mar 8 00:04:57 1998 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-970926-1) id XAA12848; Sat, 7 Mar 1998 23:48:08 -0800 (PST) Received: (mcb@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-980202-1) id XAA12791 for majordomo-users@greatcircle.com; Sat, 7 Mar 1998 23:47:53 -0800 (PST) Received: from pc11.din.upm.es (pc11.din.upm.es [138.100.75.20]) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-980202-1) with ESMTP id KAA28395 for ; Fri, 6 Mar 1998 10:07:11 -0800 (PST) Received: (from pedro@localhost) by pc11.din.upm.es (8.8.5/8.8.5) id TAA27604 for majordomo-users@greatcircle.com; Fri, 6 Mar 1998 19:04:26 +0100 From: Pedro Velarde Mayol Message-Id: <199803061804.TAA27604@pc11.din.upm.es> Subject: help with .... To: majordomo-users@greatcircle.com Date: Fri, 6 Mar 1998 19:04:26 +0100 (MET) Content-Type: text Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk hi I just installed Majordomo qirh checking ok, I have created a list (cfd) and i got some subcribers. Problem: Any message send to the list are not sent to the subcribiers .... the error in the body of the mail to the ower of the list is... --- The original message was received at Fri, 6 Mar 1998 18:55:59 +0100 from list@localhost ----- The following addresses had permanent fatal errors ----- cfd-list :include:/home/list/majordomo/lists/cfd (expanded from: cfd-list) ----- Transcript of session follows ----- 550 :include:/home/list/majordomo/lists/cfd... Cannot open /home/list/majordomo/lists/cfd: Permission denied 554 cfd-list... aliasing/forwarding loop broken -------- I do not change any pemision and everything get compiled Good. Could someone help me? thanks Pedro From majordomo-users-owner Sun Mar 8 00:35:58 1998 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-970926-1) id AAA19356; Sun, 8 Mar 1998 00:14:59 -0800 (PST) Received: (mcb@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-980202-1) id XAA12445 for majordomo-users@greatcircle.com; Sat, 7 Mar 1998 23:46:37 -0800 (PST) Received: from miles.greatcircle.com (miles.greatcircle.com [198.102.244.45]) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-980202-1) with ESMTP id UAA12629 for ; Thu, 5 Mar 1998 20:56:58 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail.proper.com (mail.proper.com [206.86.127.224]) by miles.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id UAA22708 for ; Thu, 5 Mar 1998 20:55:32 -0800 (PST) Received: from om.proper.com (om.proper.com [165.227.249.115]) by mail.proper.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with SMTP id UAA05611 for ; Thu, 5 Mar 1998 20:57:37 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <199803060457.UAA05611@mail.proper.com> X-Sender: paulh@mail.imc.org (Unverified) X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.0 Date: Thu, 05 Mar 1998 20:52:37 -0800 To: majordomo-users@GreatCircle.COM From: Paul Hoffman / IMC Subject: Checking for "@" in lists Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk Majordomo seems to be happy to let people subscribe with names that have no "@" in them. This came up for me today when someone subscribed "listname-request" to the list, and everyone who sent messages to the list got long error messages from Majordomo indicating they had sent the message to Majordomo itself. The following Perl script, which now runs every hour from crontab on my machine, will help me find these addresses before too many people complain about them. If a bad address exists, it gets removed from the file (one bad address per file per run). Enjoy! #!/usr/bin/perl chdir('/usr/home/majordomo/lists') or die "Could not chdir to /usr/home/majordomo/lists\n"; foreach $File (<*>) { next unless(index($File, '.') == -1); # Lists have no '.' in them next if(-d $File); # Skip directories open(IN, "$File") or die "Weird: could not open $File\n"; $BadLine = ''; # Initialize the check while() { next unless(index($_, '@') == -1); $BadLine = $_; last; # This will only find one bad line per file } close(IN); unless($BadLine eq '') { print "$File: $BadLine"; # Tell me there was a bad name open(IN, "$File"); open(OUT, ">$File.temp") or die "Could not write to $File.temp\n"; while() { unless($_ eq $BadLine) { print OUT $_ } } close(IN); close(OUT); unless(unlink("$File") == 1) { die "Could not remove $File\n" } unless(rename("$File.temp", "$File") == 1) # Rename the temp file { die "Could not rename $File.temp to $File\n" } } } --Paul Hoffman, Director --Internet Mail Consortium From majordomo-users-owner Sun Mar 8 04:04:59 1998 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-970926-1) id CAA18124; Sun, 8 Mar 1998 02:46:41 -0800 (PST) Received: from atle.abc.se (atle.abc.se [192.36.170.16]) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-980202-1) with ESMTP id CAA12993 for ; Sun, 8 Mar 1998 02:11:55 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (m8698@localhost) by atle.abc.se (8.8.8+Sun/8.8.5) with SMTP id LAA06882; Sun, 8 Mar 1998 11:11:45 +0100 (MET) X-Authentication-Warning: atle.abc.se: m8698 owned process doing -bs Date: Sun, 8 Mar 1998 11:11:44 +0100 (MET) From: Mats Dufberg X-Sender: m8698@atle To: Pedro Velarde Mayol cc: majordomo-users@GreatCircle.COM Subject: Re: help with .... In-Reply-To: <199803061804.TAA27604@pc11.din.upm.es> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk On Fri, 6 Mar 1998, Pedro Velarde Mayol wrote: > ----- Transcript of session follows ----- > 550 :include:/home/list/majordomo/lists/cfd... Cannot open /home/list/majordomo/lists/cfd: Permission denied > 554 cfd-list... aliasing/forwarding loop broken Make sure that /home/list/majordomo/lists/cfd is world readable by, as a regular user, testing head /home/list/majordomo/lists/cfd ----------------------------------------------------------------- Mats Dufberg Mats.Dufberg@abc.se From majordomo-users-owner Sun Mar 8 10:56:53 1998 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-970926-1) id KAA26125; Sun, 8 Mar 1998 10:43:27 -0800 (PST) Received: from sgi.sgi.com (SGI.COM [192.48.153.1]) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-980202-1) with ESMTP id KAA26107 for ; Sun, 8 Mar 1998 10:43:19 -0800 (PST) Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by sgi.sgi.com (980308.SGI.8.8.8-aspam-6.2/980304.SGI-aspam) via ESMTP id KAA16590; Sun, 8 Mar 1998 10:43:20 -0800 (PST) mail_from (tigger@rtfm.engr.sgi.com) Received: from rtfm.engr.sgi.com (rtfm.engr.sgi.com [150.166.61.10]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980205.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via SMTP id KAA1938565; Sun, 8 Mar 1998 10:43:17 -0800 (PST) Received: (from tigger@localhost) by rtfm.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/950213.SGI.AUTOCF) id KAA17032; Sun, 8 Mar 1998 10:43:16 -0800 Date: Sun, 8 Mar 1998 10:43:16 -0800 From: tigger@rtfm.engr.sgi.com (Jamie Heller-Evans) Message-Id: <199803081843.KAA17032@rtfm.engr.sgi.com> To: Neil A Thomson Subject: Re: Config errors with PRIVATE_xxx following upgrade Cc: majordomo-users@greatcircle.com Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk Ah, new variables vs. old... The private_* variables were replaced by *_access variables. Here's what you do: 1. Get a copy of the current config file with the "config" comand. BE SURE TO GET THIS *FIRST*. 2. Then you need to issue the "writeconfig" command so that a new default version of your current config file to the new 1.94.4 standards is written. You have the old config file to compare this to, right? 3. Also, you want to see what the new config looks like, so issue the "config" command to see the new file. At this point, your commands to majordomo would look like this: writeconfig LISTNAME PASSWORD config LISTNAME PASSWORD end 4. Now compare your old config with the new one and make the necessary adjustments to the new config and send it back to majordomo with the "newconfig" command. 5. Enjoy! From majordomo-users-owner Sun Mar 8 18:05:11 1998 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-970926-1) id QAA28366; Sun, 8 Mar 1998 16:48:55 -0800 (PST) Received: from castor.usroots.com (spset15.sisna.com [207.114.246.26]) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-980202-1) with ESMTP id QAA20088 for ; Sun, 8 Mar 1998 16:00:18 -0800 (PST) Received: from jerry (usr15-dialup8.mix1.Sacramento.mci.net [166.55.6.136]) by castor.usroots.com (8.8.4/8.6.9) with SMTP id TAA27759 for ; Sun, 8 Mar 1998 19:06:27 -0800 Message-ID: <000301bd4aed$b9dfd300$880637a6@jerry> From: "Jerry E Dill, CPA" To: Subject: Oh no! A newbie......... Date: Sun, 8 Mar 1998 16:55:49 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.2106.4 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk I have recently inherited a server site that is using Majordomo and SendMail for its mail system. I am struggling with a "redirect" problem and have not been able to ascertain the location of the file that contains the forward addresses affected. I am looking for someone who wouldn't mind holding my hand and helping me understand what I need to know. I learn rather quickly, but I am a "newbie" for sure. Anyone available? Thank you very much, Jerry E Dill, CPA Systems Administrator & Co-Owner USRoots.Com 811 Terry Drive Emmett, ID 83617-3170 http://www.usroots.com jed@usroots.com CPA.Dill@MCI2000.com ICQ UIN 3711901 Systems Administrator USGenWeb.Com http://www.usgenweb.com USGenWeb Idaho Archives Manager http://www.rootsweb.com/~usgenweb/id/idfiles.htm DILL Surname - DILL Family Reunion "Site of the World's Largest Pickle" http://www.usroots.com/cpadill/dillgen/dill.html From majordomo-users-owner Sun Mar 8 23:07:46 1998 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-970926-1) id VAA04002; Sun, 8 Mar 1998 21:47:05 -0800 (PST) Received: from miles.greatcircle.com (miles.greatcircle.com [198.102.244.45]) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-980202-1) with ESMTP id VAA26222 for ; Sun, 8 Mar 1998 21:02:05 -0800 (PST) Received: from sgi.sgi.com (SGI.COM [192.48.153.1]) by miles.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id VAA21188 for ; Sun, 8 Mar 1998 21:01:17 -0800 (PST) Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by sgi.sgi.com (980308.SGI.8.8.8-aspam-6.2/980304.SGI-aspam) via ESMTP id VAA04802 for <@sgi.engr.sgi.com:Majordomo-Users@greatcircle.com>; Sun, 8 Mar 1998 21:01:58 -0800 (PST) mail_from (tigger@rtfm.engr.sgi.com) Received: from rtfm.engr.sgi.com (rtfm.engr.sgi.com [150.166.61.10]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980205.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via SMTP id VAA2081394 for <@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com:Majordomo-Users@greatcircle.com>; Sun, 8 Mar 1998 21:01:57 -0800 (PST) Received: (from tigger@localhost) by rtfm.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/950213.SGI.AUTOCF) id VAA18208 for Majordomo-Users@GreatCircle.COM; Sun, 8 Mar 1998 21:01:57 -0800 Date: Sun, 8 Mar 1998 21:01:57 -0800 From: tigger@rtfm.engr.sgi.com (Jamie Heller-Evans) Message-Id: <199803090501.VAA18208@rtfm.engr.sgi.com> To: Majordomo-Users@greatcircle.com Subject: external sub requests to internal lists Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk I maintain a majordomo site for 700+ lists. Most of these lists are meant for internal use only, but are not moderated. The problem we have is that occasionally someone external to our intranet finds out about an internal list (maybe told by some sales critter about its existance), and then sends a zubscribe to our intranet majordomo to get on a list that isn't appropriate for outsiders. Is there a way of bouncing the requests directly to listowner if the request comes from outside our domain, functioning a lot like the advertise regexp? We're currently running 1.94.2_spin2, upgrading to 1.94.4 very soon. Thanks, jamie From majordomo-users-owner Mon Mar 9 01:34:57 1998 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-970926-1) id BAA18989; Mon, 9 Mar 1998 01:24:30 -0800 (PST) Received: from redhat.edith.nl ([195.108.140.37]) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-980202-1) with ESMTP id BAA18981 for ; Mon, 9 Mar 1998 01:24:24 -0800 (PST) Received: from 195.108.140.33.edith.nl (boin.edith.nl.140.108.195.IN-ADDR.ARPA [195.108.140.250]) by redhat.edith.nl (8.8.4/8.8.4) with SMTP id KAA21135 for ; Mon, 9 Mar 1998 10:25:14 +0100 Message-Id: <199803090925.KAA21135@redhat.edith.nl> From: "Boin, Han" To: majordomo-users@greatcircle.com Date: Mon, 9 Mar 1998 10:29:17 +0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Subject: (Fwd) Welcome message Reply-to: Boin@edith.nl Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk Hello,. I'm a very new user of Majordomo and I think this question is asked before ... Before my time that is.... We're using the system of Majordomo here in Holland, and sorry to say, but there are still a lot of Dutch who does not control the English language at a level that the messages of Majordomo are clear to understand. Especially the tecnhical talk is very hard to understand for them. So, here's my question : I know that an intro message is send with the welcome message to an newly subscribed user. If I turn off the Welcome line in the config-file (welcome = NO) then the intro message is also gone for the new user. Is there a possibility that the new subscribers only receive the intro message ? This intro message is in Dutch of course ... Thanks in advance .. Han Boin ========================================================================= Han Boin Netwerkbeheerder =========================================================== Afd. Beheer Informatica Hogeschool Edith Stein/ Onderwijscentrum Twente Email : Boin@edith.nl M.A. de Ruyterstraat 3 7556 CW Hengelo Tel +31.74.2559130 The Netherlands Mobiel 06-54907095 http://www.edith.nl =========================================================== From majordomo-users-owner Mon Mar 9 05:23:23 1998 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-970926-1) id EAA29489; Mon, 9 Mar 1998 04:48:29 -0800 (PST) Received: from sun4.autoctrl.rug.ac.be (sun4.autoctrl.rug.ac.be [157.193.82.19]) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-980202-1) with SMTP id EAA29243 for ; Mon, 9 Mar 1998 04:47:38 -0800 (PST) Received: from smurf.autoctrl.rug.ac.be by sun4.autoctrl.rug.ac.be with SMTP id AA00359 (5.65c/IDA-1.4.4 for ); Mon, 9 Mar 1998 13:42:23 GMT Message-Id: <3.0.3.32.19980309134631.006f70f0@sun4> X-Sender: peterd@sun4 X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.3 (32) Date: Mon, 09 Mar 1998 13:46:31 +0100 To: majordomo-users@greatcircle.com From: Peter De Smedt Subject: Sending mail using MD : can't fint "getopts.pl" Cc: Jose Rossi , Jason Tibbitts , Dave Barr , Dirk Daring , Michael Carradine , Rich Pieri Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk Hello (2), second problem configuring Majordomo on a Dec Workstation. Some info : - Dec Alpha Workstation 400 2/100 - Majordomo 1.94.4 - Perl 5.004.03 - Operating System : DEC OSF/1 V3 Installation of Perl and MD seems fine : a number of person can use MD with the commands "lists , which , subscribe, ....", and the file with E-mail0-adresses keeps growing. So installation of MD looks good. BUT : When sending a mail to MD, I get the following error : > ----- Transcript of session follows ----- >Can't locate getopts.pl in @INC at /usr/local/etc/majordomo/resend line 74. >554 "|/usr/local/etc/majordomo/wrapper resend -l test test-list"... unknown >mailer error 2 On line 74 (require "getopts.pl";) they refer to getopts.pl, but when running "perl -e '$"="\n";print "@INC\n";'" I get the following : (directories where PERL looks for files ?????) >/usr/local/lib/perl5/alpha-dec_osf/5.004 >/usr/local/lib/perl5 >/usr/local/lib/perl5/site_perl/alpha-dec_osf >/usr/local/lib/perl5/site_perl >. So looking for my file "getopts.pl" I find them on these locations : >/usr/local/etc/perl5004/lib/getopts.pl >/usr/local/lib/perl5/alpha-dec_osf/5.004/getopts.pl >/usr/local/lib/perl5/getopts.pl and I've copied them also to the directory where perl and majordomo are installed (/usr/local/etc/majordomo/majordomo and /usr/local/bin/perl): >/usr/local/etc/majordomo/getopts.pl >/usr/local/bin/getopts.pl I've installed perl twice, but still the same problem. I've read the manual, the faq and the "web-faq", but nothing seems to change ..... In the faq and manual, they mention "perl is not installed properly .... also "perl -V" gives no relief .... Therefor, who can help me ???? Is my problem caused by : - perl ???????? - ownership ?????? - majordomo ???? -something else ?? Thanks, Peter ************************************************************************ * ir. 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(+32) 09/264.58.39 WWW : http://www.autoctrl.rug.ac.be * * PGP-key Fingerprint : 68 30 8B D6 F1 01 64 0C B4 01 8D D6 1B C6 1E 89 * ---------------------------------------------------------------------- * Instituut voor Permanente Vorming (IVPV - FTW - RUG) * Universiteit Gent , Faculteit Toegepaste Wetenschappen * WWW : http://www.ivpv.ftw.rug.ac.be E-mail : ivpv.ftw@rug.ac.be ************************************************************************ From majordomo-users-owner Mon Mar 9 09:21:24 1998 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-970926-1) id JAA25060; Mon, 9 Mar 1998 09:16:19 -0800 (PST) Received: from tifosi.aa.ans.net (tifosi.aa.ans.net [147.225.20.88]) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-980202-1) with ESMTP id JAA25044 for ; Mon, 9 Mar 1998 09:16:13 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by tifosi.aa.ans.net (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id MAA02524 for ; Mon, 9 Mar 1998 12:16:26 -0500 (EST) Date: Mon, 9 Mar 1998 12:16:26 -0500 (EST) From: Matt McLean X-Sender: mattmc@tifosi.aa.ans.net Reply-To: mattmc@ans.net To: majordomo-users@greatcircle.com Subject: Trouble with -h option Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk Folks, Majordomo 1.94.4 Perl 5.003 Solaris 2.5.1 (Sun hardware) ESMTP Sendmail 8.8.7/8.8.7 I'm trying to have Majordomo send mail out from a different domain than its' hostname. I have the domain I want set in the $whereami field in my majordomo.cf. Majordomo is run as a trusted user to sendmail, so it should have no problem with the -f and/or -F option to sendmail. I also have the -h option set after resend. It just doesn't seem to be trying to use the alternate domain? All the mail it sends out is going to list@fully.qualified.machine.name and not the domain I have specified in $whereami. What am I missing? I've noticed that in more recent versions of Majordomo, fewer flags are being supported after the resend command in the /etc/aliases file. Has the -h flag been dis-continued as well? Peace, -- Matt McLean Web Hosting group Systems Engineer II tifosi From majordomo-users-owner Mon Mar 9 09:25:33 1998 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-970926-1) id JAA22978; Mon, 9 Mar 1998 09:04:36 -0800 (PST) Received: from hotmail.com (f151.hotmail.com [207.82.251.30]) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-980202-1) with SMTP id JAA22882 for ; Mon, 9 Mar 1998 09:04:07 -0800 (PST) Received: (qmail 14150 invoked by uid 0); 9 Mar 1998 17:04:18 -0000 Message-ID: <19980309170418.14149.qmail@hotmail.com> Received: from 207.115.63.10 by www.hotmail.com with HTTP; Mon, 09 Mar 1998 09:04:18 PST X-Originating-IP: [207.115.63.10] From: "Jeff Meredith" To: itapolecbu@lofcom.com Subject: Send info about your business Content-Type: text/plain Date: Mon, 09 Mar 1998 09:04:18 PST Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk Hello fellow entruprenuer, I saw your ad today in the classifieds. How is your business doing? 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Jeff jm5029@hotmail.com ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com From majordomo-users-owner Mon Mar 9 11:20:12 1998 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-970926-1) id KAA08068; Mon, 9 Mar 1998 10:28:16 -0800 (PST) Received: from naic.org (naic.org [204.71.111.10]) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-980202-1) with ESMTP id KAA07950 for ; Mon, 9 Mar 1998 10:27:52 -0800 (PST) Received: from LMS.NAIC.ORG ([165.103.12.3]) by gateway.naic.org with SMTP id <155012>; Mon, 9 Mar 1998 12:25:11 -0600 Received: by LMS.NAIC.ORG (Soft-Switch LMS 2.0) with OAS via MSMAIL id 0033300000273663; Mon, 9 Mar 1998 12:30:17 -0600 From: "JSkaggs@NAIC.ORG" To: "(a)naic.org" Subject: Joy! Joy! Message-ID: <0033300000273663000002L032*@MHS> Date: Mon, 9 Mar 1998 12:30:17 -0600 Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk I'm sure everyone will be happy to know that my Majordomo server is now working!!! I (hopefully) won't be pestering anybody for at least a day or so. I just wanted to tell everyone that responded to my moronic questions, "Thank you. It's people like you that brought me where I am today. (I think I'm going to cry) =|:> (That's supposed to be Uncle Sam!)-->can you tell I'm excited? Thanks again everyone!!! Jennifer From majordomo-users-owner Mon Mar 9 11:35:06 1998 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-970926-1) id KAA11352; Mon, 9 Mar 1998 10:46:07 -0800 (PST) Received: from atle.abc.se (atle.abc.se [192.36.170.16]) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-980202-1) with ESMTP id IAA14268 for ; Mon, 9 Mar 1998 08:19:58 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (m8698@localhost) by atle.abc.se (8.8.8+Sun/8.8.5) with SMTP id RAA26068; Mon, 9 Mar 1998 17:19:47 +0100 (MET) X-Authentication-Warning: atle.abc.se: m8698 owned process doing -bs Date: Mon, 9 Mar 1998 17:19:47 +0100 (MET) From: Mats Dufberg X-Sender: m8698@atle To: Peter De Smedt cc: majordomo-users@GreatCircle.COM Subject: Re: Sending mail using MD : can't fint "getopts.pl" In-Reply-To: <3.0.3.32.19980309134631.006f70f0@sun4> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk On Mon, 9 Mar 1998, Peter De Smedt wrote: > > ----- Transcript of session follows ----- > >Can't locate getopts.pl in @INC at /usr/local/etc/majordomo/resend line 74. > >554 "|/usr/local/etc/majordomo/wrapper resend -l test test-list"... > unknown >mailer error 2 OK. Perl can't find getopts.pl. > On line 74 (require "getopts.pl";) they refer to getopts.pl, but > when running "perl -e '$"="\n";print "@INC\n";'" I get the following : > (directories where PERL looks for files ?????) > >/usr/local/lib/perl5/alpha-dec_osf/5.004 > >/usr/local/lib/perl5 > >/usr/local/lib/perl5/site_perl/alpha-dec_osf > >/usr/local/lib/perl5/site_perl > >. > > So looking for my file "getopts.pl" I find them on these locations : > >/usr/local/etc/perl5004/lib/getopts.pl > >/usr/local/lib/perl5/alpha-dec_osf/5.004/getopts.pl > >/usr/local/lib/perl5/getopts.pl Your installation of perl seems to be incorrect. > and I've copied them also to the directory where perl and majordomo > are installed (/usr/local/etc/majordomo/majordomo and /usr/local/bin/perl): > >/usr/local/etc/majordomo/getopts.pl > >/usr/local/bin/getopts.pl Those directories aren't in the @INC path. Rememeber that "." is relative to where YOU are when you ask for majordomo, not where majordomo is. 1. Quick hack: softlink getopts.pl to /usr/local/lib/perl5 2. Solid solution. Reinstall perl and make sure that all paths are correct. ----------------------------------------------------------------- Mats Dufberg Mats.Dufberg@abc.se From majordomo-users-owner Mon Mar 9 11:57:09 1998 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-970926-1) id LAA22959; Mon, 9 Mar 1998 11:34:27 -0800 (PST) Received: from fiu.edu (rottweiler.fiu.edu [131.94.128.47]) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-980202-1) with ESMTP id LAA22952 for ; Mon, 9 Mar 1998 11:34:21 -0800 (PST) Received: from irmunix2-128 (solix.fiu.edu [131.94.64.81]) by fiu.edu (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id OAA08710 for ; Mon, 9 Mar 1998 14:37:28 -0500 (EST) Date: Mon, 9 Mar 1998 14:42:05 -0500 (EST) From: Luis Muench X-Sender: muench@irmunix2-128 Reply-To: Luis Muench To: majordomo-users@greatcircle.com Subject: majordomo abort Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk Hi I have a linux rh4.2 (2.0.32 kernel), majordomo 1.94.4, sendmail 8.8.5, perl 5.003, and just recently, I started receiving the following message: Subject: MAJORDOMO ABORT (mj_digest) -- MAJORDOMO ABORT (mj_digest)!! open(DIGEST, ">/var/lib/majordomo/archives/mecha-digest.archive/v01.n001"): No such file or directory it seems that the directory is erroneous...it should be /var/lib/majordomo/archives/mecha-digest/ the code that (apparently) is sourcing this problem (from majordomo) is open(DIGEST, "$homedir/digest -m -C -l $list $list_outgoing 2>&1 |"); @digest_errors = ; close(DIGEST); The list seems to be digesting itself properly since /var/lib/majordomo/digest/mecha-digest has digested files, BUT /var/lib/majordomo/archives/mecha-digest is empty. However, the list itself (/majordomo/archives/mecha) is working fine... Can someone point me to the problem? Here is the relevants from aliases...now that I think of it, I suspect the error is in the following aliases file...any majordomo gurus out there can tell me what's wrong? --- #MECHA archiving and digesting commands mecha: "|/usr/lib/majordomo/wrapper resend -l mecha -f mecha-owner -h mecha.xxx.xxx -s mecha-outgoing" mecha-digest: mecha mecha-outgoing::include:/var/lib/majordomo/lists/mecha, "|/usr/lib/majordomo/wrapper digest -r -C -l mecha-digest mecha-digest-outgoing", "| /usr/lib/majordomo/wrapper archive2.pl -a -m -f /var/lib/majordomo/archives/mecha/mecha.archive" mecha-digest-outgoing::include:/var/lib/majordomo/lists/mecha-digest" owner-mecha: user, mecha-owner: user, owner-mecha-outgoing:owner-mecha owner-mecha-digest:owner-mecha owner-mecha-digest-outgoing:owner-mecha mecha-request: "|/usr/lib/majordomo/wrapper majordomo -l mecha" mecha-digest-request: "|/usr/lib/majordomo/wrapper request-answer mecha-digest" mecha-approval:user, mecha-digest-approval:mecha-approval --- I looked through the archives, and though there were lots of references to (mj_digest) none seemed appropriate...please cc me in your reply... Thanks From majordomo-users-owner Mon Mar 9 12:05:45 1998 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-970926-1) id LAA25378; Mon, 9 Mar 1998 11:57:21 -0800 (PST) Received: from turbot.dfo.ca (cod.mar.dfo-mpo.gc.ca [207.61.69.253]) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-980202-1) with SMTP id LAA25308 for ; Mon, 9 Mar 1998 11:56:57 -0800 (PST) Received: id PAA01654; Mon, 9 Mar 1998 15:56:40 -0400 Received: by gateway id PAA03208 for Majordomo-Users@GreatCircle.COM; Mon, 9 Mar 1998 15:53:43 -0400 From: sysop@ecology.bio.dfo.ca (Bill Silvert) Message-Id: <199803091953.PAA03208@ecology.bio.dfo.ca> Subject: Puzzling bounce -- taboo_headers To: Majordomo-Users@GreatCircle.COM (Majordomo Users) Date: Mon, 9 Mar 1998 15:53:43 -0400 (AST) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk I just got the following bounce, and I don't understand it. The bounce apparently occurred because I had /^from:.*@LINKEASY.NET/i in taboo-headers, but I cannot find this string in the message. The relevant header (with just the user's name changed) is: From: Firstname Lastname and while I realise that I failed to escape the @, how do these match? Bill Silvert Forwarded message: >From owner-phycotoxins Mon Mar 9 15:20:51 1998 >Date: Mon, 9 Mar 1998 15:20:51 -0400 >From: owner-phycotoxins >To: owner-phycotoxins >Subject: BOUNCE phycotoxins@ecology.bio.dfo.ca: global taboo header: /^from:.*@LINKEASY.NET/i ... >From: Firstname Lastname > >From: "Firstname Lastname" -- BIOME SysOp, Habitat Ecology Section, Bedford Institute of Oceanography P. O. Box 1006, Dartmouth, Nova Scotia, CANADA B2Y 4A2. Tel. (902)426-1577 From majordomo-users-owner Mon Mar 9 13:07:31 1998 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-970926-1) id MAA27603; Mon, 9 Mar 1998 12:12:25 -0800 (PST) Received: from sina.hpc.uh.edu (Sina.HPC.UH.EDU [129.7.3.5]) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-980202-1) with ESMTP id LAA04010 for ; Sun, 1 Mar 1998 11:32:06 -0800 (PST) Received: (from tibbs@localhost) by sina.hpc.uh.edu (8.7.3/8.7.3) id NAA02440; Sun, 1 Mar 1998 13:39:10 -0600 (CST) To: Tom Ozanich Cc: majordomo-users@GreatCircle.COM Subject: Re: How to add a sequence number to each post References: Mime-Version: 1.0 (generated by tm-edit 7.100) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII From: Jason L Tibbitts III Date: 01 Mar 1998 13:39:10 -0600 In-Reply-To: Tom Ozanich's message of Sun, 1 Mar 1998 08:40:55 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: Lines: 9 X-Mailer: Gnus v5.4.46/Emacs 19.34 Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk >>>>> "TO" == Tom Ozanich writes: TO> I was wondering if anyone has advice / code to do this. How about the sequencer in the contrib directory? Or the results of an archive search on 'sequence'? You might fine useful. - J< From majordomo-users-owner Mon Mar 9 13:35:02 1998 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-970926-1) id MAA27661; Mon, 9 Mar 1998 12:12:48 -0800 (PST) Received: from epiphore.francenet.fr (epiphore.francenet.fr [193.149.97.10]) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-980202-1) with ESMTP id BAA20089 for ; Mon, 9 Mar 1998 01:39:14 -0800 (PST) Received: from epiphore.francenet.fr (perrot@localhost.francenet.fr [127.0.0.1]) by epiphore.francenet.fr (8.8.8/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA07341 for ; Mon, 9 Mar 1998 10:39:17 +0100 (CET) Message-Id: <199803090939.KAA07341@epiphore.francenet.fr> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0.2 2/24/98 To: Majordomo-Users@greatcircle.com Subject: REPOST : eliminate "Majordomo results" email for subscription X-Face: '%)H7X3>"mU[aaPz3aZ`^e{*DV1&W;+P-Wx*Yk)Ah[e(-AO&EB\D.gq2y{kH73Q29}_A4H,eykdf!9dj[m\gwFgZOTt?=7gI+RBN,I({A32-MyZrmtrD%8*L/boGS0,+Lj$H|@ X-Url: http://www.francenet.fr/ Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Mon, 09 Mar 1998 10:39:17 +0100 From: Gildas Perrot Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk Hi, I would like to eliminate the "Majordomo results" email to a subscriber since he already receive a "Welcome to " email. Any idea how to do that ? Thanks in advance for your help. Gildas. -- Gildas PERROT, perrot@francenet.fr __o FranceNet, 28 rue Desaix, 75015 Paris ---_ \<,_ http://www.francenet.fr ---- (_)/ (_) From majordomo-users-owner Mon Mar 9 13:46:12 1998 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-970926-1) id MAA27283; Mon, 9 Mar 1998 12:09:34 -0800 (PST) Received: from miles.greatcircle.com (miles.greatcircle.com [198.102.244.45]) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-980202-1) with ESMTP id WAA12838 for ; Tue, 3 Mar 1998 22:01:29 -0800 (PST) Received: from sina.hpc.uh.edu (Sina.HPC.UH.EDU [129.7.3.5]) by miles.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id VAA14173 for ; Tue, 3 Mar 1998 21:40:59 -0800 (PST) Received: (from tibbs@localhost) by sina.hpc.uh.edu (8.7.3/8.7.3) id XAA18575; Tue, 3 Mar 1998 23:41:37 -0600 (CST) To: Ken Gordon Cc: majordomo-users@GreatCircle.COM Subject: Re: Another error message... References: Mime-Version: 1.0 (generated by tm-edit 7.100) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII From: Jason L Tibbitts III Date: 03 Mar 1998 23:41:37 -0600 In-Reply-To: Ken Gordon's message of Tue, 3 Mar 1998 19:51:23 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: Lines: 9 X-Mailer: Gnus v5.4.46/Emacs 19.34 Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk >>>>> "KG" == Ken Gordon writes: KG> See, no lists listed. Majordomo probably can't lock any of the config files to check the advertise status of the lists. It's beginning to me to look like you somehow dropped the setuid privileges from the wrapper. - J< From majordomo-users-owner Mon Mar 9 14:05:33 1998 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-970926-1) id MAA27745; Mon, 9 Mar 1998 12:13:13 -0800 (PST) Received: from miles.greatcircle.com (miles.greatcircle.com [198.102.244.45]) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-980202-1) with ESMTP id WAA12845 for ; Tue, 3 Mar 1998 22:01:30 -0800 (PST) Received: from sina.hpc.uh.edu (Sina.HPC.UH.EDU [129.7.3.5]) by miles.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id VAA14128 for ; Tue, 3 Mar 1998 21:39:15 -0800 (PST) Received: (from tibbs@localhost) by sina.hpc.uh.edu (8.7.3/8.7.3) id XAA18571; Tue, 3 Mar 1998 23:39:34 -0600 (CST) To: Ken Gordon Cc: majordomo-users@GreatCircle.COM Subject: Re: Mailer error 139... References: Mime-Version: 1.0 (generated by tm-edit 7.100) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII From: Jason L Tibbitts III Date: 03 Mar 1998 23:39:33 -0600 In-Reply-To: Ken Gordon's message of Tue, 3 Mar 1998 19:41:40 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: Lines: 10 X-Mailer: Gnus v5.4.46/Emacs 19.34 Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk >>>>> "KG" == Ken Gordon writes: KG> Anyone know what this is? It's a segfault. If something's segfaulting, you have a serious problem. Perl will segfault if you're not running one of the recommended versions. If you're running 1.93, well, it had problems which caused this. The current version is 1.94.4, and has this and many other problems fixed. - J< From majordomo-users-owner Mon Mar 9 14:06:13 1998 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-970926-1) id MAA00669; Mon, 9 Mar 1998 12:28:40 -0800 (PST) Received: from naic.org (naic.org [204.71.111.10]) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-980202-1) with ESMTP id MAA00624 for ; Mon, 9 Mar 1998 12:28:27 -0800 (PST) Received: from LMS.NAIC.ORG ([165.103.12.3]) by gateway.naic.org with SMTP id <155022>; Mon, 9 Mar 1998 14:25:52 -0600 Received: by LMS.NAIC.ORG (Soft-Switch LMS 2.0) with OAS via MSMAIL id 0033300000274209; Mon, 9 Mar 1998 14:30:57 -0600 From: "JSkaggs@NAIC.ORG" To: "(a)naic.org" Subject: Addresses in the 'To:' Message-ID: <0033300000274209000002L092*@MHS> Date: Mon, 9 Mar 1998 14:30:57 -0600 Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk This is another question that I also needed answered: What option can I set to make sure that the only name that shows up in the 'To:' is the listname 'mylist'? When I send a message to 'mylist', of which I am a subscriber, in the 'To:' it has the users MSMail alias listed, in our case it is the initials of the recipients, as well as the name of the list from our global address list: JXS; JKF; MYLIST, DIST LIST This will, no doubt, get out of hand considering that some lists have several hundred users. If I didn't explain this well enough, let me know! };-) Thanks in advance... Jennifer From majordomo-users-owner Mon Mar 9 14:06:30 1998 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-970926-1) id NAA11559; Mon, 9 Mar 1998 13:38:51 -0800 (PST) Received: from chinet.chinet.com (chinet.chinet.com [206.158.147.18]) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-980202-1) with ESMTP id AAA08777 for ; Sat, 7 Mar 1998 00:00:04 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (ahk@localhost) by chinet.chinet.com (8.8.7/8.8.5) with SMTP id BAA09917 for ; Sat, 7 Mar 1998 01:59:50 -0600 Date: Sat, 7 Mar 1998 01:59:50 -0600 (CST) From: "Adam H. Kerman" To: majordomo-users Subject: Re: Unkind Replies In-Reply-To: <01e601bd46e9$9532ca60$64d91dce@phishhead.dawtech.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk >From: Chris Taylor >Date: Tue, 3 Mar 1998 14:16:07 -0700 >"Marilyn Y. Weber" >>I'm not sure if I'm just over sensitive or what but some people are >>replying to questions with what seems to me in some instances as a "Holier" >>than thou attitude. All of us were beginners at some point in time and >>probably asked the same kinds of questions. Many people are not quite as >>technically knowledgeable as others, Wouldn't it be better to ignore the >>questions you don't personally like by deleting the message ?? >You mean, RTFM isn't a suitable response ;) You should explain what the "F" stands for. From majordomo-users-owner Mon Mar 9 14:07:02 1998 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-970926-1) id MAA02292; Mon, 9 Mar 1998 12:38:12 -0800 (PST) Received: from mermaid.shore.net (mermaid.shore.net [207.244.124.6]) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-980202-1) with SMTP id MAA28428 for ; Mon, 9 Mar 1998 12:16:43 -0800 (PST) Received: from smoe.org [204.167.97.154] (jeffw) by mermaid.shore.net with esmtp (Exim) id 0yC8yl-0000QH-00; Mon, 9 Mar 1998 15:16:55 -0500 Received: (from jeffw@localhost) by smoe.org (8.8.7/8.8.7/daemon-mode-relay2) id PAA03634; Mon, 9 Mar 1998 15:19:15 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <19980309151914.47803@smoe.org> Date: Mon, 9 Mar 1998 15:19:14 -0500 From: Jeff Wasilko To: Luis Muench Cc: majordomo-users@GreatCircle.COM Subject: Re: majordomo abort References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.76 In-Reply-To: ; from "Luis Muench" on Mon, Mar 09, 1998 at 02:42:05PM -0500 Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk On Mon, Mar 09, 1998 at 02:42:05PM -0500, Luis Muench wrote: > Hi > > I have a linux rh4.2 (2.0.32 kernel), majordomo 1.94.4, sendmail 8.8.5, > perl 5.003, and just recently, I started receiving the following message: > > Subject: MAJORDOMO ABORT (mj_digest) > -- > MAJORDOMO ABORT (mj_digest)!! > > open(DIGEST, > ">/var/lib/majordomo/archives/mecha-digest.archive/v01.n001"): No such > file or directory > > it seems that the directory is erroneous...it should be > /var/lib/majordomo/archives/mecha-digest/ Digest builds the digest in the archive directory, so you need to have an archive directory for the digest. jeff From majordomo-users-owner Mon Mar 9 14:07:26 1998 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-970926-1) id NAA11262; Mon, 9 Mar 1998 13:37:39 -0800 (PST) Received: from miles.greatcircle.com (miles.greatcircle.com [198.102.244.45]) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-980202-1) with ESMTP id NAA00685 for ; Tue, 3 Mar 1998 13:58:29 -0800 (PST) Received: from sco.sco.COM (sco.sco.COM [132.147.128.9]) by miles.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id OAA03395 for ; Tue, 3 Mar 1998 14:05:02 -0800 (PST) Received: from solsco.sco.com by sco.sco.COM id aa06995; 3 Mar 98 14:10 PST Received: from archiek1.uss.sco.com by solsco.sco.com id aa28700; 3 Mar 98 14:08 PST Message-Id: <3.0.32.19980303135539.00c99e68@solsco.sco.com> X-Sender: archiek@solsco.sco.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0 (32) Date: Tue, 03 Mar 1998 13:55:40 -0800 To: Chris Taylor From: Archie Kregear Subject: Re: Unkind Replies Cc: majordomo-users@greatcircle.com, "Marilyn Y. Weber" Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk At 02:16 PM 3/3/98 -0700, Chris Taylor wrote: >>I'm not sure if I'm just over sensitive or what but some people are >>replying to questions with what seems to me in some instances as a "Holier" >>than thou attitude. All of us were beginners at some point in time and >>probably asked the same kinds of questions. Many people are not quite as >>technically knowledgeable as others, Wouldn't it be better to ignore the >>questions you don't personally like by deleting the message ?? > >You mean, RTFM isn't a suitable response ;) It is, but only if it is well documented! ;-) Archie From majordomo-users-owner Mon Mar 9 16:32:43 1998 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-970926-1) id PAA02106; Mon, 9 Mar 1998 15:44:38 -0800 (PST) Received: from sina.hpc.uh.edu (Sina.HPC.UH.EDU [129.7.3.5]) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-980202-1) with ESMTP id PAA02050 for ; Mon, 9 Mar 1998 15:44:21 -0800 (PST) Received: (from tibbs@localhost) by sina.hpc.uh.edu (8.7.3/8.7.3) id RAA00201; Mon, 9 Mar 1998 17:44:31 -0600 (CST) To: Gildas Perrot Cc: Majordomo-Users@GreatCircle.COM Subject: Re: REPOST : eliminate "Majordomo results" email for subscription References: <199803090939.KAA07341@epiphore.francenet.fr> Mime-Version: 1.0 (generated by tm-edit 7.100) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII From: Jason L Tibbitts III Date: 09 Mar 1998 17:44:30 -0600 In-Reply-To: Gildas Perrot's message of Mon, 09 Mar 1998 10:39:17 +0100 Message-ID: Lines: 11 X-Mailer: Gnus v5.4.46/Emacs 19.34 Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk >>>>> "GP" == Gildas Perrot writes: GP> I would like to eliminate the "Majordomo results" email to a subscriber GP> since he already receive a "Welcome to " email. Any idea how to GP> do that ? You cannot. The command acknowledgment will always be sent. What do you propose to do when the user sends more than one command in a message? What about when the request goes to the owner for confirmation? - J< From majordomo-users-owner Mon Mar 9 16:35:04 1998 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-970926-1) id PAA03224; Mon, 9 Mar 1998 15:51:46 -0800 (PST) Received: from sina.hpc.uh.edu (Sina.HPC.UH.EDU [129.7.3.5]) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-980202-1) with ESMTP id PAB03206 for ; Mon, 9 Mar 1998 15:51:39 -0800 (PST) Received: (from tibbs@localhost) by sina.hpc.uh.edu (8.7.3/8.7.3) id RAA00289; Mon, 9 Mar 1998 17:51:39 -0600 (CST) To: sysop@ecology.bio.dfo.ca (Bill Silvert) Cc: Majordomo-Users@GreatCircle.COM (Majordomo Users) Subject: Re: Puzzling bounce -- taboo_headers References: <199803091953.PAA03208@ecology.bio.dfo.ca> Mime-Version: 1.0 (generated by tm-edit 7.100) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII From: Jason L Tibbitts III Date: 09 Mar 1998 17:51:38 -0600 In-Reply-To: sysop@ecology.bio.dfo.ca's message of Mon, 9 Mar 1998 15:53:43 -0400 (AST) Message-ID: Lines: 20 X-Mailer: Gnus v5.4.46/Emacs 19.34 Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk >>>>> "BS" == Bill Silvert writes: BS> and while I realise that I failed to escape the @, how do these match? Since you didn't escape the @, perl expands the variable @LINKEASY. Since that's empty, it replaces it by an empty string: /^from:.*@LINKEASY.NET/i becomes /^from:.*.NET/i which matches just fine. As for why perl doesn't blow up, ponder the following: XYX:karazm:~> perl -we 'print "abc@def.ghi\n"' Literal @def now requires backslash at -e line 1, within string Execution of -e aborted due to compilation errors. XYX:karazm:~> perl -we 'undef @def;print "abc@def.ghi\n"' abc.ghi This _is_ pretty weird, but not entirely mysterious. - J< From majordomo-users-owner Mon Mar 9 16:51:42 1998 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-970926-1) id OAA17319; Mon, 9 Mar 1998 14:16:02 -0800 (PST) Received: from bill_the_cat.basis.com (basis.basis.com [208.128.23.66]) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-980202-1) with ESMTP id OAA03265 for ; Tue, 3 Mar 1998 14:09:19 -0800 (PST) Received: (from mail@localhost) by bill_the_cat.basis.com (8.8.5/8.6.9) id PAA27060 for ; Tue, 3 Mar 1998 15:27:56 -0700 Received: from dino.basis.com(204.134.1.140) by bill_the_cat.basis.com via smap (V2.0) id xma027036; Tue, 3 Mar 98 15:27:09 -0700 Date: Tue, 3 Mar 1998 15:17:48 -0700 From: elongmi@basis.com (Ernie Longmire) Subject: Re: Unkind Replies To: majordomo-users@greatcircle.com Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <6dhrht$is9$1@oliver.basis.com> X-Mailer: Anawave Gravity v2.00 Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk > I'm not sure if I'm just over sensitive or what but some people are > replying to questions with what seems to me in some instances as a "Holier" > than thou attitude. All of us were beginners at some point in time and > probably asked the same kinds of questions. Many people are not quite as > technically knowledgeable as others, Wouldn't it be better to ignore the > questions you don't personally like by deleting the message ?? Wouldn't it be better to read majordomo's documentation and/or look in the list archives before sending Yet Another Copy Of Yet Another Frequently Asked Question into the mailboxes of the *hundreds* of people who are subscribed to this mailing list? It's my personal opinion that the people who bother to do this *are* holier than those who don't. And the people who manage to suffer through all the foolish questions and still manage to answer them when they can instead of deciding to hang it all up and leave the list completely are even holier than that. -- ::: Ernie Longmire (elongmi@basis.com) ::: Speaking for myself, not for BASIS! From majordomo-users-owner Mon Mar 9 16:54:17 1998 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-970926-1) id NAA12948; Mon, 9 Mar 1998 13:44:39 -0800 (PST) Received: from prescienttech.com (londo.prescienttech.com [199.103.216.62]) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-980202-1) with ESMTP id NAB12864 for ; Mon, 9 Mar 1998 13:44:22 -0800 (PST) Received: from gkar.prescienttech.com. (gkar.prescienttech.com [111.17.19.1]) by prescienttech.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id QAA30252 for ; Mon, 9 Mar 1998 16:44:32 -0500 From: Rich Pieri To: majordomo-users@greatcircle.com Subject: Re: REPOST : eliminate "Majordomo results" email for subscription References: <199803090939.KAA07341@epiphore.francenet.fr> X-No-Archive: yes Mail-Copies-To: never Date: 09 Mar 1998 16:44:32 -0500 In-Reply-To: Gildas Perrot's message of "Mon, 09 Mar 1998 10:39:17 +0100" Message-ID: Lines: 27 X-Mailer: Gnus v5.4.66/Emacs 19.34 Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- >>>>> "GP" == Gildas Perrot writes: GP> I would like to eliminate the "Majordomo results" email to a subscriber GP> since he already receive a "Welcome to " email. Any idea how to GP> do that ? Not without eliminating those messages for all other Majordomo operations. If you do not want to see them, use mail filtering software. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 4.0 Business Edition Charset: noconv iQCVAwUBNQRivp6VRH7BJMxHAQFPtQP/fMDpZEhfUnU/0As41b8Eqjumbgzmu3Ln 5pwPaBWsY+fu1yaa5gJ6xGKpEMfGBckTWy26G1+u0cUOMb7Ce5x7pGnMI7i1oj4w nmuzQnY4GwiUw0O/Ol2g3hwqJS4mOPpJjhJWAbQUMje3oUn/Q9kxOA9BTfNseaXk fQhJr3yQwhs= =iuJI -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- Rich Pieri / Happy Fun Ball contains a liquid Sysmonster, Unix Wrangler / core, which, if exposed due to Prescient Technologies, Inc. / rupture, should not be touched, I speak for myself, not PTI or SWEC / inhaled, or looked at. From majordomo-users-owner Mon Mar 9 17:11:43 1998 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-970926-1) id OAA17258; Mon, 9 Mar 1998 14:15:31 -0800 (PST) Received: from miles.greatcircle.com (miles.greatcircle.com [198.102.244.45]) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-980202-1) with ESMTP id QAA29083 for ; Sun, 1 Mar 1998 16:31:59 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail.lig.bellsouth.net (mail.lig.bellsouth.net [205.152.0.50]) by miles.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id QAA15340 for ; Sun, 1 Mar 1998 16:14:55 -0800 (PST) Received: from realgrafix (host-209-138-50-33.shv.bellsouth.net [209.138.50.33]) by mail.lig.bellsouth.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id TAA10521 for ; Sun, 1 Mar 1998 19:15:20 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <012c01bd4570$60e33a80$64356420@realgrafix> Reply-To: "Mike Langley" From: "Mike Langley" To: "majordomo users" Subject: resend-host problem Date: Sun, 1 Mar 1998 18:15:54 -0600 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.2106.4 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk OK all, Is it possible to have diffrent majordomo.cf files for each list. The situation I find myself in is that I'm on a Virtual Server so I have several domains that use this IP address and use the same majordomo although I am the only one with permissions to configure majordomo and its lists besides the list owners. The problem is that when I recieve a welcome from from one of the lists it always has my domain and I want it to show the domain of the owner or the list, not majordomo-owner or owner-majordomo. I've tried setting the resend-host and sender options in the list config file but this doesn't affect the welcome at all. What I want to do is completely hide my domain on all lists but my own. How can I accomplish this? Sincerely, Mike Langley Webmaster & Programming Manager Reality Graphics Designs http://www.realgrafix.com Email: WebMaster@RealGrafix.com (Business) RealGrfx@Bellsouth.net (Personal) AutoDoc68@email.msn.com (Personal) From majordomo-users-owner Mon Mar 9 17:35:27 1998 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-970926-1) id RAA20332; Mon, 9 Mar 1998 17:18:47 -0800 (PST) Received: from jaske01.jaske.com (mail.jaske.com [208.221.152.2]) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-980202-1) with ESMTP id RAA20273 for ; Mon, 9 Mar 1998 17:18:32 -0800 (PST) Received: from jaske.com (jas13.jaske.com [208.221.152.13]) by jaske01.jaske.com (8.8.8/8.8.5) with ESMTP id TAA02576 for ; Mon, 9 Mar 1998 19:18:45 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <350494F8.F23B3759@jaske.com> Date: Mon, 09 Mar 1998 19:18:49 -0600 From: Stathy Touloumis Organization: JASKE.COM X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: majordomo-users@GreatCircle.COM Subject: Re: Unkind Replies References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk > And the people who manage to suffer through all the > foolish questions and still manage to answer them when they can instead of > deciding to hang it all up and leave the list completely are even holier > than that. See now if you put all that energy of thought and typing action into a response. This guys answer would've been taken care of, he would have been happy, no more 'foolish' postings to the list, and all would be good. ; ) -- Stathy Touloumis - Partner/Owner JASKE.COM 'innovative I/net' JASKE.COM - 3555 W. Peterson Ave. Chicago IL 60659 ___________________________________________________ http://www.jaske.com - info@jaske.com - support@jaske.com From majordomo-users-owner Mon Mar 9 18:04:37 1998 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-970926-1) id OAA17488; Mon, 9 Mar 1998 14:17:21 -0800 (PST) Received: from sina.hpc.uh.edu (Sina.HPC.UH.EDU [129.7.3.5]) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-980202-1) with ESMTP id UAA01920 for ; Fri, 6 Mar 1998 20:29:05 -0800 (PST) Received: (from tibbs@localhost) by sina.hpc.uh.edu (8.7.3/8.7.3) id WAA16532; Fri, 6 Mar 1998 22:28:55 -0600 (CST) To: David Meleedy Cc: Majordomo-Users@GreatCircle.COM Subject: Re: Setting up default "advertise" regexps automatically for new lists References: <199803070105.AA10138@adinet.analog.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 (generated by tm-edit 7.100) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII From: Jason L Tibbitts III Date: 06 Mar 1998 22:28:54 -0600 In-Reply-To: David Meleedy's message of Fri, 06 Mar 1998 20:05:10 -0500 Message-ID: Lines: 30 X-Mailer: Gnus v5.4.46/Emacs 19.34 Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk >>>>> "DM" == David Meleedy writes: DM> 'advertise', DM> '/\@.*\.analog\.com$/\001/\@[^.]+$/\001/^[^@]+$/', # if regexp matches address show list Well, backslash escapes don't interpolate in single-quoted strings, so you get a literal \001 instead of the character with ASCII value 1 (i.e. a control-A). (The only escape sequences that are recognized are \\ and \'.) Try putting the second string in double quotes instead of single quotes, like the rest of the code that uses \001 in config_parse.pl. (I.e. if all else fails, copy what is there instead of trying to go your own way.) Unfortunately you may end up having to do multiple levels of backslash quoting, because some backslashes will be eaten by double-quote interpolation. This means you have to use a double backslash to get a single backslash in the resulting string and then add another backslash to escape something like an @ sign. The best thing to do is experiment. My best guess at to the string you want would be: "/\\\@.*\\.analog\\.com\$/\001/\\\@[^.]+\$/\001/^[^\@]+\$/" but that's probably wrong somewhere. Yes, this isn't particularly easy. You might also try using something like: join("\001", '/\@.*\.analog\.com/', '/\@[^.]+$/', '/^[^@]+$/'); which is also probably wrong somewhere. - J< From majordomo-users-owner Mon Mar 9 18:05:22 1998 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-970926-1) id OAA18107; Mon, 9 Mar 1998 14:22:23 -0800 (PST) Received: from ayla.idyllmtn.com (ayla.idyllmtn.com [206.16.238.1]) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-980202-1) with ESMTP id NAA28590 for ; Tue, 3 Mar 1998 13:49:06 -0800 (PST) Received: (from kynn@localhost) by ayla.idyllmtn.com (8.8.7/8.8.7) id NAA16581; Tue, 3 Mar 1998 13:48:54 -0800 (PST) From: Kynn Bartlett Message-Id: <199803032148.NAA16581@ayla.idyllmtn.com> Subject: Re: Unkind Replies To: myw1@axe.humboldt.edu (Marilyn Y. Weber) Date: Tue, 3 Mar 1998 13:48:53 -0800 (PST) Cc: majordomo-users@GreatCircle.COM In-Reply-To: <3.0.1.32.19980303074039.00927100@axe.humboldt.edu> from "Marilyn Y. Weber" at Mar 3, 98 07:40:39 am X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] Content-Type: text Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk Someone wrote: > I'm not sure if I'm just over sensitive or what but some people are > replying to questions with what seems to me in some instances as a "Holier" > than thou attitude. You're over-sensitive. Note that self-righteously complaining about people being mean is just another kind of "holier than thou" attitude, by the way; so not only are you over-sensitive, but you're somewhat hypocritical as well. > All of us were beginners at some point in time and > probably asked the same kinds of questions. Yes, we all were, and we all asked those questions. Which is why we put them in the FAQ, and why we have archives of this list available, and why the documentation exists. > Many people are not quite as > technically knowledgeable as others, Wouldn't it be better to ignore the > questions you don't personally like by deleting the message ?? Just my > personal thought for the day. Thanks for listening. I notice that you didn't delete the replies you don't personally like; you wrote a "personal thought for the day" rebuking people on this list. Well, that's all nice and warm and fuzzy, and I'm sure it made you feel like a wonderful person to yourself, but in general, 90% of the stupid questions on this list could be answered by either: (a) Reading the documentation, (b) Reading the FAQ, (c) Reading the list archives, (d) Lurking on the list for a week or two, or (e) Reading the source code If someone hasn't at least done two or three of these, then they're simply lazy, and want the rest of us to do their homework for them. --Kynn From majordomo-users-owner Mon Mar 9 18:05:25 1998 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-970926-1) id OAA17233; Mon, 9 Mar 1998 14:15:07 -0800 (PST) Received: from miles.greatcircle.com (miles.greatcircle.com [198.102.244.45]) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-980202-1) with ESMTP id NAA27862 for ; Sun, 1 Mar 1998 13:31:49 -0800 (PST) Received: from ex1.ncsa.uiuc.edu (ex1.ncsa.uiuc.edu [141.142.3.16]) by miles.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA05899 for ; Sun, 1 Mar 1998 13:09:23 -0800 (PST) Received: from mx1.ncsa.uiuc.edu (mx1.ncsa.uiuc.edu [141.142.3.15]) by ex1.ncsa.uiuc.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id PAA09197; Sun, 1 Mar 1998 15:09:47 -0600 (CST) Received: from ferret.ncsa.uiuc.edu (ferret.ncsa.uiuc.edu [141.142.21.119]) by mx1.ncsa.uiuc.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id PAA28316; Sun, 1 Mar 1998 15:09:46 -0600 (CST) Received: (from lindsey@localhost) by ferret.ncsa.uiuc.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) id PAA11882; Sun, 1 Mar 1998 15:09:28 -0600 From: Christopher Lindsey Message-Id: <199803012109.PAA11882@ferret.ncsa.uiuc.edu> Subject: Re: multiple message copies.... To: pevad@kudosnet.com (Paul Evad - Kudosnet Communications) Date: Sun, 1 Mar 1998 15:09:28 -0600 (CST) Cc: majordomo-users@GreatCircle.COM, linuxsig@baremetal.com, mattp@iso-ezine.com In-Reply-To: from "Paul Evad - Kudosnet Communications" at Feb 28, 98 05:45:10 pm Content-Type: text Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk > "F=m > .30.8.30 (section reference) > Allow delivery to multiple recipients > > ...Note that sendmail is able to distinguish only between failures > involving one, many, or all of the recipients when it is delivering with > SMTP. Otherwise, it judges delivery as successful if a ero exit(2) value is > returned by a delivery agent. If the delivery agent fails to deliver to one > of many recipients, it exits with a nonzero value, and because of that > single failure, sendmail will presume that delivery to all recipients > failed." > > So, someone correct me if I'm wrong. This flag in the sendmail.cf file > basically means that if one person in a list of say 100 addresses were to > fail.... all 100 people will get the mail again, and again, and again until > the message fails totally? I think this is saying that your interpretation is true only for local mail delivery. Anything that gets passed on to another mail relay becomes their problem to deal with. Chris From majordomo-users-owner Mon Mar 9 18:27:40 1998 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-970926-1) id OAA17405; Mon, 9 Mar 1998 14:16:56 -0800 (PST) Received: from ex1.ncsa.uiuc.edu (ex1.ncsa.uiuc.edu [141.142.3.16]) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-980202-1) with ESMTP id IAA05301 for ; Thu, 5 Mar 1998 08:16:14 -0800 (PST) Received: from mx1.ncsa.uiuc.edu (mx1.ncsa.uiuc.edu [141.142.3.15]) by ex1.ncsa.uiuc.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA22745; Thu, 5 Mar 1998 10:15:34 -0600 (CST) Received: from ferret.ncsa.uiuc.edu (ferret.ncsa.uiuc.edu [141.142.21.119]) by mx1.ncsa.uiuc.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA10931; Thu, 5 Mar 1998 10:15:33 -0600 (CST) Received: (from lindsey@localhost) by ferret.ncsa.uiuc.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) id KAA17455; Thu, 5 Mar 1998 10:15:31 -0600 From: Christopher Lindsey Message-Id: <199803051615.KAA17455@ferret.ncsa.uiuc.edu> Subject: Re: wilma and glimpse To: omar@clifford.inch.com (Omar Thameen) Date: Thu, 5 Mar 1998 10:15:31 -0600 (CST) Cc: majordomo-users@GreatCircle.COM In-Reply-To: <19980305021833.46376@clifford.inch.com> from "Omar Thameen" at Mar 5, 98 02:18:33 am Content-Type: text Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk > I'm still working on getting everything working and automated in the > wilma package. I'm hoping someone might be able to help with a couple > wilma/glimpse problems I'm having. There's no glimpse discussion list, > but I've emailed the developers, offered to create one, and should have > it going in the next week. On to my questions. > > $ glimpseindex -f -o tmp > > and corrupts the database, causing a segmentation fault when I > subsequently try to glimpse through it. I'm testing at the command > line here so I can see what the problem is. Anyone else having/had > this problem? I don't use WILMA per se, but rather a homegrown version. The 'glimpsiness' should be the same, though. I ran into a similar problem when indexing lists with large MHonArc archives (1000+/month). What I ended up having to do was build a medium-sized index with the '-b' flag. The '-o' flag that you have builds a small index. I also wasn't able to use the '-f' file -- after about 10 builds, the database would become corrupt. So try 'glimpseindex -b tmp' and let me know if it helps. Again, I don't know WILMA, so I might be way off base here. But I usually like to use the '-H' flag and put things in another directory, too. It just seems 'cleaner' and more portable if I have to move things around. Chris From majordomo-users-owner Mon Mar 9 18:28:04 1998 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-970926-1) id OAA18867; Mon, 9 Mar 1998 14:27:38 -0800 (PST) Received: from ns.iunet.it (ns.iunet.it [192.106.1.1]) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-980202-1) with SMTP id OAA18809 for ; Mon, 9 Mar 1998 14:27:22 -0800 (PST) Received: from [195.31.150.134] (Genova6-38.tin.it) by ns.iunet.it with SMTP id AA20896 (5.65c8/IDA-1.4.4 for ); Mon, 9 Mar 1998 23:24:17 +0100 X-Sender: angelocr@box1.tin.it Message-Id: In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Mon, 9 Mar 1998 22:31:30 +0200 To: majordomo-users@GreatCircle.COM From: Angelo Caruso Subject: footer not working Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk Have you any idea of the reason why this message footer is completely ignored ? Otherwise the config file works. Thanks, Angelo. >>>> # message_footer [string_array] (undef) # Text to be appended at the end of all messages posted to the # list. The text is expanded before being used. The following # expansion tokens are defined: $LIST - the name of the current # list, $SENDER - the sender as taken from the from line, $VERSION, # the version of majordomo. If used in a digest, no expansion # tokens are provided message_footer << END ----------------------------****---------------------------------------- Lista nettuno-economia. Per info END <<<< @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@ @ Home Address: Office Address: @ @ @ @ Angelo Caruso Business Reply S.r.l. (*) @ @ Via dei Ciclamini 80-5 The Business Engineering Company @ @ I-16148 Genova Corso Francia, 110 @ @ Italy I-10143 Torino @ @ Italy @ @ @ @ Fax: +39-10-6563400 Tel: +39-11-7711594 @ @ Fax: +39-11-7495416 @ @ @ @ Email: angelocr@tin.it (*) A Reply Group Company @ @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@ From majordomo-users-owner Mon Mar 9 18:48:36 1998 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-970926-1) id OAA18157; Mon, 9 Mar 1998 14:23:01 -0800 (PST) Received: from sina.hpc.uh.edu (Sina.HPC.UH.EDU [129.7.3.5]) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-980202-1) with ESMTP id NAA24696 for ; Tue, 3 Mar 1998 13:28:51 -0800 (PST) Received: (from tibbs@localhost) by sina.hpc.uh.edu (8.7.3/8.7.3) id PAA11718; Tue, 3 Mar 1998 15:36:16 -0600 (CST) To: majordomo-users@GreatCircle.COM Subject: Re: Unkind Replies References: <3.0.1.32.19980303074039.00927100@axe.humboldt.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 (generated by tm-edit 7.100) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII From: Jason L Tibbitts III Date: 03 Mar 1998 15:36:16 -0600 In-Reply-To: "Marilyn Y. Weber"'s message of Tue, 03 Mar 1998 07:40:39 -0800 Message-ID: Lines: 35 X-Mailer: Gnus v5.4.46/Emacs 19.34 Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk >>>>> "MYW" == Marilyn Y Weber writes: MYW> I'm not sure if I'm just over sensitive or what but some people are MYW> replying to questions with what seems to me in some instances as a MYW> "Holier" than thou attitude. I think it's better called the "RTFM" attitude. Many people that answer questions here (like me) have very, very little to gain from being here; this group has almost nothing in the way of new information to offer us. But I personally follow the traffic here because occasionally there's someone who has done their homework and comes up with a good question that deserves a good answer. MYW> All of us were beginners at some point in time and probably asked the MYW> same kinds of questions. But some of us had the presence of mind to read the FAQ and search the list archives first. (Some of us even had to download the raw archive files and use grep; newbies these days have it so easy since I put up the web-based searchable archives.) Some of us even (gasp) read the whole previous month of archives before asking questions. I call call this problem "guru burnout". The last round happened about 11 months ago, and amazingly you can read all about it in the archives. Since then greatcircle.com put up a useful Majordomo page, and I put up my own. And guess what: it still didn't work. The unresearched questions keep coming. We have a good FAQ, web pages, and an archive interface that's incredibly easy to use. But experience shows that it still doesn't solve the problem. I'm still trying, though; I hope to have a good volume of real documentation when I finally release my rewrite of Majordomo. Some days I can't help but wonder if anyone will actually read it. - J< From majordomo-users-owner Mon Mar 9 18:51:13 1998 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-970926-1) id SAA05492; Mon, 9 Mar 1998 18:31:04 -0800 (PST) Received: from ncr-sd.SanDiegoCA.NCR.COM (h153-64-251-18.NCR.COM [153.64.251.18]) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-980202-1) with ESMTP id SAA05435 for ; Mon, 9 Mar 1998 18:30:44 -0800 (PST) Received: from jabberwocky (jabberwocky.SanDiegoCA.NCR.COM [153.64.69.123]) by ncr-sd.SanDiegoCA.NCR.COM (8.8.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id SAA13700; Mon, 9 Mar 1998 18:30:48 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <199803100230.SAA13700@ncr-sd.SanDiegoCA.NCR.COM> X-Sender: bhoule@www.sandiegoca.ncr.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.0 Date: Mon, 09 Mar 1998 18:27:55 -0800 To: tigger@rtfm.engr.sgi.com (Jamie Heller-Evans), Majordomo-Users@GreatCircle.COM From: Bill Houle Subject: Re: external sub requests to internal lists In-Reply-To: <199803090501.VAA18208@rtfm.engr.sgi.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk At 09:01 PM 3/8/98 -0800, Jamie Heller-Evans wrote: > >Is there a way of bouncing the requests directly to listowner if the >request comes from outside our domain, functioning a lot like the >advertise regexp? Upgrade to 1.94.4 and then apply the 'nosubscribe' patch available in the list archives. --bill From majordomo-users-owner Mon Mar 9 19:05:49 1998 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-970926-1) id SAA06171; Mon, 9 Mar 1998 18:34:47 -0800 (PST) Received: from ayla.idyllmtn.com (ayla.idyllmtn.com [206.16.238.1]) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-980202-1) with ESMTP id SAA06073 for ; Mon, 9 Mar 1998 18:34:27 -0800 (PST) Received: from grev.idyllmtn.com (kynn.bur.primenet.com [207.218.52.159]) by ayla.idyllmtn.com (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id SAA27215; Mon, 9 Mar 1998 18:27:25 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.19980309183627.03807cf0@mail.idyllmtn.com> X-Sender: kynn@mail.idyllmtn.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.5 (32) Date: Mon, 09 Mar 1998 18:36:27 -0800 To: Stathy Touloumis From: Kynn Bartlett Subject: Re: Unkind Replies Cc: majordomo-users@GreatCircle.COM In-Reply-To: <350494F8.F23B3759@jaske.com> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk At 07:18 p.m. 03/09/98 -0600, Stathy Touloumis wrote: >> And the people who manage to suffer through all the >> foolish questions and still manage to answer them when they can instead of >> deciding to hang it all up and leave the list completely are even holier >> than that. >See now if you put all that energy of thought and typing action into a response. >This guys answer would've been taken care of, he would have been happy, no more >'foolish' postings to the list, and all would be good. >; ) ...until tomorrow when someone else asks the same question. -- _ __ * Owner, Idyll Mountain Internet | / / _ _ ._ _ ._ _ * Web Manager, Claremont Graduate Univ. | \ | | || ' || ' | * Board Member, HTML Writers Guild |_\_\`_. ||_|_||_|_| * Postmaster, MLists.com <___' * Co-Coordinator, Virtual Dog Show kynn@idyllmtn.com * Accessibility rocks: www.idyllmtn.com/~kynn * http://www.w3.org/WAI/ From majordomo-users-owner Mon Mar 9 19:35:04 1998 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-970926-1) id TAA20454; Mon, 9 Mar 1998 19:32:42 -0800 (PST) Received: from gsulaw.gsu.edu ([131.96.87.70]) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-980202-1) with ESMTP id TAA20425 for ; Mon, 9 Mar 1998 19:32:25 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (lawppw@localhost) by gsulaw.gsu.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id WAA06334; Mon, 9 Mar 1998 22:32:28 -0500 Date: Mon, 9 Mar 1998 22:32:28 -0500 (EST) From: Patrick Wiseman To: "Adam H. Kerman" cc: majordomo-users Subject: Re: Unkind Replies In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk On Sat, 7 Mar 1998, Adam H. Kerman wrote: :>You mean, RTFM isn't a suitable response ;) : :You should explain what the "F" stands for. : "Fine" -- everyone knows that. Patrick From majordomo-users-owner Mon Mar 9 19:42:11 1998 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-970926-1) id NAA12588; Mon, 9 Mar 1998 13:43:24 -0800 (PST) Received: from atle.abc.se (atle.abc.se [192.36.170.16]) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-980202-1) with ESMTP id NAA12486 for ; Mon, 9 Mar 1998 13:43:03 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (m8698@localhost) by atle.abc.se (8.8.8+Sun/8.8.5) with SMTP id WAA02451; Mon, 9 Mar 1998 22:43:13 +0100 (MET) X-Authentication-Warning: atle.abc.se: m8698 owned process doing -bs Date: Mon, 9 Mar 1998 22:43:12 +0100 (MET) From: Mats Dufberg X-Sender: m8698@atle To: Matt McLean cc: majordomo-users@GreatCircle.COM Subject: Re: Trouble with -h option In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk On Mon, 9 Mar 1998, Matt McLean wrote: > ESMTP Sendmail 8.8.7/8.8.7 > > I'm trying to have Majordomo send mail out from a different domain than > its' hostname. I have the domain I want set in the $whereami field > in my majordomo.cf. Majordomo is run as a trusted user to sendmail, > so it should have no problem with the -f and/or -F option to sendmail. > I also have the -h option set after resend. It just doesn't seem to be > trying to use the alternate domain? All the mail it sends out is going > to list@fully.qualified.machine.name and not the domain I have specified > in $whereami. Do you have masquerading turned on in sendmail? Turn it off to see if it helps. ----------------------------------------------------------------- Mats Dufberg Mats.Dufberg@abc.se From majordomo-users-owner Mon Mar 9 19:46:43 1998 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-970926-1) id OAA17377; Mon, 9 Mar 1998 14:16:41 -0800 (PST) Received: from europe.std.com (europe.std.com [199.172.62.20]) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-980202-1) with ESMTP id XAA04863 for ; Fri, 6 Mar 1998 23:42:22 -0800 (PST) Received: from ppp0a008.std.com by europe.std.com (8.7.6/BZS-8-1.0) id CAA02190; Sat, 7 Mar 1998 02:42:05 -0500 (EST) From: jkaplan@world.std.com (Jeffrey Kaplan) To: Majordomo-Users@GreatCircle.COM Subject: Re: Restricting 'who' Date: Sat, 07 Mar 1998 02:41:51 -0500 Organization: The World @ Software Tool & Die Reply-To: gordol@pobox.com (Jeffrey Kaplan) Message-ID: <350ff8d2.5782745@europe.std.com> References: <199803070545.AAA13383@camel7.mindspring.com> In-Reply-To: <199803070545.AAA13383@camel7.mindspring.com> X-Mailer: Forte Agent 1.5/32.451 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk Hey Larry Schauer! I got your message about Restricting 'who': ; out their e-mail address, so I want to restrict who can do the 'who ; list' command. Basically, I want to disable it for this list (except ; for the list owner). Is there any way to do this? I tried messing ; with the 'private_who' option, but majordomo complained---it expected >From my config of Majordomo 1.93: -----------------\ # who_access [enum] (closed) /closed;list;open/ # One of three values: open, list, closed. Open allows anyone # access to this command and closed completely disables the command # for everyone. List allows only list members access, or if # restrict_post is defined, only the addresses in those files are # allowed access. who_access = list -----------------/ -- Jeffrey Kaplan <*> I'm set up for PGP. Are you? gordoll@pobox.com <*> There is only one "L" in my name. jkapllan@world.std.com <*> These are my opinions, not The World's. There is no need to copy to me via email a newsgroup follow-up. "Maybe she's got a conscience." "Unlikely. Tyrants seldom show remorse for their brutalities." (Dr. Franklin and Lt. Cmdr. Ivonova, B5 "Deathwalker") From majordomo-users-owner Mon Mar 9 19:46:44 1998 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-970926-1) id OAA17361; Mon, 9 Mar 1998 14:16:27 -0800 (PST) Received: from prescienttech.com (londo.prescienttech.com [199.103.216.62]) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-980202-1) with ESMTP id QAA16985 for ; Sat, 7 Mar 1998 16:21:22 -0800 (PST) Received: from gkar.prescienttech.com. (gkar.prescienttech.com [111.17.19.1]) by prescienttech.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id TAA08561 for ; Sat, 7 Mar 1998 19:21:16 -0500 From: Rich Pieri To: majordomo-users@greatcircle.com Subject: Re: Avoiding mail loops (123) References: X-No-Archive: yes Mail-Copies-To: never Date: 07 Mar 1998 19:21:15 -0500 In-Reply-To: Nick Halloway's message of "Sat, 7 Mar 1998 14:19:33 -0800 (PST)" Message-ID: Lines: 31 X-Mailer: Gnus v5.4.66/Emacs 19.34 Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- >>>>> "NH" == Nick Halloway writes: NH> I'm only using the request part of Majordomo, the program that does NH> subscribing, etc., not sending mail to a mailing list. What I'm NH> concerned about is, e.g. the request address getting spam, [...] Then Majordomo cannot do anything for you. If messages are never seen by resend, Mj's filtering capability never comes into play. Spam blocking should be handled either by your firewall's or site router's packet filtering setup, tcp_wrappers on the mail hub, or the MTA itself. Each has its own strengths and weaknesses. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 4.0 Business Edition Charset: noconv iQCVAwUBNQHkeZ6VRH7BJMxHAQFGFgQAkTrxmzMUOM03lJubyfz1dwCnPu+dWEjz thzgIUyEeZfE2/djXLv7x4hH9AvzDYNDIo7LMQz8bWTotb2UW/SA3WETX3bN+i+X qs5DGneUnnD3UhT7ooEae6eMC5YkCWS1UfoMXFv0saY1y9gokuueDy28qeJzkOy1 h27yk7niG+4= =wO7o -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- Rich Pieri / Warning: pregnant women, the Sysmonster, Unix Wrangler / elderly, and children under 10 Prescient Technologies, Inc. / should avoid prolonged exposure to I speak for myself, not PTI or SWEC / Happy Fun Ball. From majordomo-users-owner Mon Mar 9 19:50:53 1998 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-970926-1) id TAA14548; Mon, 9 Mar 1998 19:06:41 -0800 (PST) Received: from brutha.thehub.com.au (brutha.thehub.com.au [203.17.162.11]) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-980202-1) with SMTP id SAA12832 for ; Mon, 9 Mar 1998 18:57:32 -0800 (PST) Received: (qmail 20059 invoked by uid 2476); 10 Mar 1998 13:01:25 +1000 Date: Tue, 10 Mar 1998 13:01:24 +1000 (EST) From: Bruce Campbell To: Angelo Caruso cc: majordomo-users@GreatCircle.COM Subject: Re: footer not working In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Organisation: Hub Communications MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk On Mon, 9 Mar 1998, Angelo Caruso wrote: > Have you any idea of the reason why this message footer is completely > ignored ? > message_footer << END > > ----------------------------****---------------------------------------- > Lista nettuno-economia. Per info > > END It doesn't seem to take note of extra lines, so removing the blank lines should work. --==-- Bruce. Systems Administrator Hub Communications. From majordomo-users-owner Mon Mar 9 20:23:16 1998 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-970926-1) id TAA19411; Mon, 9 Mar 1998 19:24:26 -0800 (PST) Received: from ayla.idyllmtn.com (ayla.idyllmtn.com [206.16.238.1]) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-980202-1) with ESMTP id TAA19344 for ; Mon, 9 Mar 1998 19:24:12 -0800 (PST) Received: from grev.idyllmtn.com (kynn.bur.primenet.com [207.218.52.159]) by ayla.idyllmtn.com (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id TAA28232; Mon, 9 Mar 1998 19:18:29 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.19980309192801.00a74cf0@mail.idyllmtn.com> X-Sender: kynn@mail.idyllmtn.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.5 (32) Date: Mon, 09 Mar 1998 19:28:01 -0800 To: "Adam H. Kerman" From: Kynn Bartlett Subject: Re: Unkind Replies Cc: majordomo-users In-Reply-To: References: <01e601bd46e9$9532ca60$64d91dce@phishhead.dawtech.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk At 01:59 a.m. 03/07/98 -0600, Adam H. Kerman wrote: >>From: Chris Taylor >>Date: Tue, 3 Mar 1998 14:16:07 -0700 >>You mean, RTFM isn't a suitable response ;) >You should explain what the "F" stands for. I tried reading _that_ manual once, and it just seemed to be some kind of sex education book. -- _ __ * Owner, Idyll Mountain Internet | / / _ _ ._ _ ._ _ * Web Manager, Claremont Graduate Univ. | \ | | || ' || ' | * Board Member, HTML Writers Guild |_\_\`_. ||_|_||_|_| * Postmaster, MLists.com <___' * Co-Coordinator, Virtual Dog Show kynn@idyllmtn.com * Accessibility rocks: www.idyllmtn.com/~kynn * http://www.w3.org/WAI/ From majordomo-users-owner Mon Mar 9 20:35:45 1998 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-970926-1) id UAA25760; Mon, 9 Mar 1998 20:02:41 -0800 (PST) Received: from unix.reachtheplanet.com (gw.reachtheplanet.com [199.79.146.246]) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-980202-1) with ESMTP id UAA25717 for ; Mon, 9 Mar 1998 20:02:14 -0800 (PST) Received: from jb (jb@jb.reachtheplanet.com [139.146.198.66]) by unix.reachtheplanet.com (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id WAA27153 for ; Mon, 9 Mar 1998 22:01:59 -0600 Message-Id: <199803100401.WAA27153@unix.reachtheplanet.com> X-Sender: jb@mail.bigdeal.net (Unverified) X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.0 Date: Mon, 09 Mar 1998 22:01:40 -0600 To: majordomo-users@GreatCircle.COM From: jb Subject: not receiving messages on my own lists Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk this is kind of weird... perhaps someone has encountered it before. i am running latest perl, latest majordomo, etc... i have a virtually-hosted list set up... been working for as long as i can remember. as far as i know, i have not done anything differently to/with it... i just noticed that i am not receiving a copy of messages being sent to the list? i have verified that i AM subscribed and in the list file. everyone else gets mail and all seems fine. the error log shows nothing... neither does the syslog maillog. very weird. any ideas? thanks so much in advance. -Jeff From majordomo-users-owner Mon Mar 9 20:39:08 1998 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-970926-1) id TAA20968; Mon, 9 Mar 1998 19:37:02 -0800 (PST) Received: from jaske01.jaske.com (mail.jaske.com [208.221.152.2]) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-980202-1) with ESMTP id TAA20797 for ; Mon, 9 Mar 1998 19:36:27 -0800 (PST) Received: from jaske.com (jak7.jaske.com [208.221.153.7]) by jaske01.jaske.com (8.8.8/8.8.5) with ESMTP id VAA03293 for ; Mon, 9 Mar 1998 21:36:41 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <3504B652.77E6E7D7@jaske.com> Date: Mon, 09 Mar 1998 21:41:06 -0600 From: Stathy Touloumis X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: majordomo-users@GreatCircle.COM Subject: Re: Unkind Replies References: <3.0.5.32.19980309183627.03807cf0@mail.idyllmtn.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk True, but haven't you found in the process of teaching that you yourself grasped a deeper understanding of the topic being taught? > ...until tomorrow when someone else asks the same question. > > -- > _ __ * Owner, Idyll Mountain Internet > | / / _ _ ._ _ ._ _ * Web Manager, Claremont Graduate Univ. > | \ | | || ' || ' | * Board Member, HTML Writers Guild > |_\_\`_. ||_|_||_|_| * Postmaster, MLists.com > <___' * Co-Coordinator, Virtual Dog Show > kynn@idyllmtn.com * Accessibility rocks: > www.idyllmtn.com/~kynn * http://www.w3.org/WAI/ From majordomo-users-owner Mon Mar 9 20:58:18 1998 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-970926-1) id TAA15138; Mon, 9 Mar 1998 19:08:44 -0800 (PST) Received: from antares.pegasus.com.br (antares.pegasus.com.br [200.251.120.35]) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-980202-1) with ESMTP id TAA14952 for ; Mon, 9 Mar 1998 19:08:05 -0800 (PST) Received: from pegasus.com.br (acrab.pegasus.com.br [200.251.120.45]) by antares.pegasus.com.br (8.8.5/8.8.6) with ESMTP id AAA07170 for ; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 00:08:47 -0300 Message-ID: <3504AD8D.3A244EFC@pegasus.com.br> Date: Tue, 10 Mar 1998 00:03:41 -0300 From: Juliao Braga Organization: InterMail Ltda. X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.03 [pt] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: majordomo-users@GreatCircle.COM Subject: Re: footer not working References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk Try message_footer << END . ----------------------------****---------------------------------------- Lista nettuno-economia. Per info END i.e. avoid the first blank line. Regards Luiz Angelo Caruso escreveu: > > Have you any idea of the reason why this message footer is completely ignored ? > > Otherwise the config file works. > > Thanks, > Angelo. > > >>>> > # message_footer [string_array] (undef) > # Text to be appended at the end of all messages posted to the > # list. The text is expanded before being used. The following > # expansion tokens are defined: $LIST - the name of the current > # list, $SENDER - the sender as taken from the from line, $VERSION, > # the version of majordomo. If used in a digest, no expansion > # tokens are provided > message_footer << END > > ----------------------------****---------------------------------------- > Lista nettuno-economia. Per info > > END > > <<<< > > @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@ > @ Home Address: Office Address: @ > @ @ > @ Angelo Caruso Business Reply S.r.l. (*) @ > @ Via dei Ciclamini 80-5 The Business Engineering Company @ > @ I-16148 Genova Corso Francia, 110 @ > @ Italy I-10143 Torino @ > @ Italy @ > @ @ > @ Fax: +39-10-6563400 Tel: +39-11-7711594 @ > @ Fax: +39-11-7495416 @ > @ @ > @ Email: angelocr@tin.it (*) A Reply Group Company @ > @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@ -- Luiz Juliao Braga Filho Rua Sergipe, 57 4o. andar 30130-170 Belo Horizonte, MG http://www.pegasus.com.br ******* Da Estacao Pegasus BH ****** http://www.bh.pegasus.com.br From majordomo-users-owner Mon Mar 9 22:06:35 1998 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-970926-1) id VAA19011; Mon, 9 Mar 1998 21:50:15 -0800 (PST) Received: from stream.earthbroadcasting.com ([207.173.16.201]) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-980202-1) with ESMTP id VAA18885 for ; Mon, 9 Mar 1998 21:49:45 -0800 (PST) Received: from phishhead (phishhead.dawtech.com [206.29.217.100]) by stream.earthbroadcasting.com (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id WAA06816; Mon, 9 Mar 1998 22:55:36 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from chris@christaylor.com) Message-ID: <009801bd4be8$8b967070$64d91dce@phishhead.dawtech.com> From: "Chris Taylor" To: , "Jason L Tibbitts III" Subject: Re: Unkind Replies Date: Mon, 9 Mar 1998 22:51:17 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.2106.4 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk >I call call this problem "guru burnout". The last round happened about 11 >months ago, and amazingly you can read all about it in the archives. Since >then greatcircle.com put up a useful Majordomo page, and I put up my own. >And guess what: it still didn't work. The unresearched questions keep >coming. We have a good FAQ, web pages, and an archive interface that's >incredibly easy to use. But experience shows that it still doesn't solve >the problem. > >I'm still trying, though; I hope to have a good volume of real >documentation when I finally release my rewrite of Majordomo. Some days I >can't help but wonder if anyone will actually read it. I'll read it...just for you. Well, ok, for me too. --Chris From majordomo-users-owner Mon Mar 9 22:29:09 1998 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-970926-1) id VAA17287; Mon, 9 Mar 1998 21:44:15 -0800 (PST) Received: from chinet.chinet.com (chinet.chinet.com [206.158.147.18]) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-980202-1) with ESMTP id UAA03565 for ; Mon, 9 Mar 1998 20:41:17 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (ahk@localhost) by chinet.chinet.com (8.8.7/8.8.5) with SMTP id WAA04214 for ; Mon, 9 Mar 1998 22:41:31 -0600 Date: Mon, 9 Mar 1998 22:41:31 -0600 (CST) From: "Adam H. Kerman" To: majordomo-users Subject: Re: Unkind Replies In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk >From: Patrick Wiseman >Date: Mon, 9 Mar 1998 22:32:28 -0500 (EST) >On Sat, 7 Mar 1998, Adam H. Kerman wrote: >:>You mean, RTFM isn't a suitable response ;) >:You should explain what the "F" stands for. >"Fine" -- everyone knows that. No, it doesn't. Class? From majordomo-users-owner Mon Mar 9 22:47:53 1998 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-970926-1) id UAA03823; Mon, 9 Mar 1998 20:42:35 -0800 (PST) Received: from chinet.chinet.com (chinet.chinet.com [206.158.147.18]) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-980202-1) with ESMTP id UAA03762 for ; Mon, 9 Mar 1998 20:42:18 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (ahk@localhost) by chinet.chinet.com (8.8.7/8.8.5) with SMTP id WAA04231 for ; Mon, 9 Mar 1998 22:42:37 -0600 Date: Mon, 9 Mar 1998 22:42:37 -0600 (CST) From: "Adam H. Kerman" To: majordomo-users Subject: Re: Unkind Replies In-Reply-To: <3.0.5.32.19980309192801.00a74cf0@mail.idyllmtn.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk >From: Kynn Bartlett >Date: Mon, 09 Mar 1998 19:28:01 -0800 >At 01:59 a.m. 03/07/98 -0600, Adam H. Kerman wrote: >>>From: Chris Taylor >>>Date: Tue, 3 Mar 1998 14:16:07 -0700 >>>You mean, RTFM isn't a suitable response ;) >>You should explain what the "F" stands for. >I tried reading _that_ manual once, and it just seemed to >be some kind of sex education book. What's the RFC? From majordomo-users-owner Mon Mar 9 23:51:12 1998 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-970926-1) id XAA08469; Mon, 9 Mar 1998 23:36:09 -0800 (PST) Received: from brutha.thehub.com.au (brutha.thehub.com.au [203.17.162.11]) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-980202-1) with SMTP id XAA06394 for ; Mon, 9 Mar 1998 23:19:47 -0800 (PST) Received: (qmail 8816 invoked by uid 2476); 10 Mar 1998 17:23:56 +1000 Date: Tue, 10 Mar 1998 17:23:55 +1000 (EST) From: Bruce Campbell To: majordomo-users cc: "Adam H. Kerman" Subject: Re: Unkind Replies In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Organisation: Hub Communications MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk On Mon, 9 Mar 1998, Adam H. Kerman wrote: > >>>You mean, RTFM isn't a suitable response ;) > >>You should explain what the "F" stands for. > >I tried reading _that_ manual once, and it just seemed to > >be some kind of sex education book. > What's the RFC? Genesis 4:1, based on Genesis 2:22 and Genesis 2:7. --==-- Bruce. (very much tongue in cheek ;) ) From majordomo-users-owner Mon Mar 9 23:52:19 1998 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-970926-1) id WAA21165; Mon, 9 Mar 1998 22:06:07 -0800 (PST) Received: from praline.no.neosoft.com (praline.no.NeoSoft.COM [206.27.160.253]) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-980202-1) with SMTP id VAA19136 for ; Mon, 9 Mar 1998 21:50:47 -0800 (PST) Received: (qmail 17747 invoked by uid 10086); 10 Mar 1998 05:51:03 -0000 Date: Mon, 9 Mar 1998 23:51:03 -0600 (CST) From: Ray Jones To: Bruce Campbell cc: Angelo Caruso , majordomo-users@GreatCircle.COM Subject: Re: footer not working In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk On Tue, 10 Mar 1998, Bruce Campbell wrote: > > Have you any idea of the reason why this message footer is completely > > ignored ? > It doesn't seem to take note of extra lines, so removing the blank lines > should work. If you want a blank line, the line must start with a single "-" -- Regards, "Big Ray the Cab Driver" Jones - Licensed Tour Guide ICQ UIN 1473313 Disseminating info about New Orleans & Louisiana via my web page at http://www.neosoft.com/~rayjones/welcome.html or you can join "Big Ray's" New Orleans Mailing List by sending: subscribe noml To: majordomo@communique.net From majordomo-users-owner Tue Mar 10 00:24:07 1998 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-970926-1) id XAA03436; Mon, 9 Mar 1998 23:07:28 -0800 (PST) Received: from brutha.thehub.com.au (brutha.thehub.com.au [203.17.162.11]) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-980202-1) with SMTP id XAA03396 for ; Mon, 9 Mar 1998 23:07:15 -0800 (PST) Received: (qmail 8418 invoked by uid 2476); 10 Mar 1998 17:11:25 +1000 Date: Tue, 10 Mar 1998 17:11:25 +1000 (EST) From: Bruce Campbell To: majordomo-users Subject: What in the world is RTFM? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Organisation: Hub Communications MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk > >:>You mean, RTFM isn't a suitable response ;) > >:You should explain what the "F" stands for. > >"Fine" -- everyone knows that. > No, it doesn't. Class? RTFM quite plainly means: Read The Manual. Of course, questions which get the response of 'RTFM' are usually made at a bad time for the one who answers, so the 'F' is added, ie: For polite company: Read The Fine Manual. For less polite company: Read The Flaming Manual. For people who just won't understand: Read The F*cking Manual. (this is usually followed by a tirade about the questionable parenthood of the questioner, although sotto-voice mainly) So, there are many correct answers to this question. In short, read the manual, and use your ******* imagination ;) --==-- Bruce. Freelance BOFH (Bastard Operator From Hell) From majordomo-users-owner Tue Mar 10 00:50:29 1998 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-970926-1) id VAA08507; Mon, 9 Mar 1998 21:06:14 -0800 (PST) Received: from mermaid.shore.net (mermaid.shore.net [207.244.124.6]) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-980202-1) with SMTP id VAA08479 for ; Mon, 9 Mar 1998 21:06:00 -0800 (PST) Received: from smoe.org [204.167.97.154] (jeffw) by mermaid.shore.net with esmtp (Exim) id 0yCHEs-0000Tg-00; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 00:06:06 -0500 Received: (from jeffw@localhost) by smoe.org (8.8.7/8.8.7/daemon-mode-relay2) id AAA10768; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 00:08:26 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <19980310000825.63759@smoe.org> Date: Tue, 10 Mar 1998 00:08:25 -0500 From: Jeff Wasilko To: jb Cc: majordomo-users@GreatCircle.COM Subject: Re: not receiving messages on my own lists References: <199803100401.WAA27153@unix.reachtheplanet.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.76 In-Reply-To: <199803100401.WAA27153@unix.reachtheplanet.com>; from "jb" on Mon, Mar 09, 1998 at 10:01:40PM -0600 Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk On Mon, Mar 09, 1998 at 10:01:40PM -0600, jb wrote: > this is kind of weird... perhaps someone has encountered it before. > > i am running latest perl, latest majordomo, etc... > > i have a virtually-hosted list set up... been working for as long as i can > remember. as far as i know, i have not done anything differently to/with > it... > > i just noticed that i am not receiving a copy of messages being sent to the > list? i have verified that i AM subscribed and in the list file. everyone > else gets mail and all seems fine. the error log shows nothing... neither > does the syslog maillog. Have you checked your sendmail configuration? Majordomo doesn't handle delivery. Searching http://www.hpc.uh.edu/majordomo-users/ for sendmail;metoo should answer your question. =Jeff From majordomo-users-owner Tue Mar 10 00:50:46 1998 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-970926-1) id UAA25952; Mon, 9 Mar 1998 20:04:12 -0800 (PST) Received: from web02.globecomm.net (web02.nyc.globecomm.net [207.51.48.39]) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-980202-1) with ESMTP id UAA25913 for ; Mon, 9 Mar 1998 20:03:56 -0800 (PST) From: kumba@doglover.com Received: (from root@localhost) by web02.globecomm.net (8.8.8/8.8.0) id XAA03308; Mon, 9 Mar 1998 23:04:14 -0500 (EST) Date: Mon, 9 Mar 1998 23:04:14 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199803100404.XAA03308@web02.globecomm.net> Content-Type: text/plain MIME-Version: 1.0 To: majordomo-users@greatcircle.com Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: new user needs help Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk Greetings all, I assume this is going to be mailed out to a list, yes? Anyway, I am a new user to MaDo and I need some help installing it on my system. I have a mailing list that I use to send new artwork out to peoplre that request it, but it is a pain to add aand delete people fromt he liost all the time, so I am thinking that a Domo list would be good because thye can maintain themselves. is this the right frame of mind? I knwo that if anyone writes back it will go around the list, and this is fine, I just like the maintenance free method. So, if anyone can help me to do whatever needs to be done to get the list up and running, I would be most appreciative. My web server is CGI ready, but I don't knwo how to start the application working. what do I need to download and where do I needd to put it, etc.... a bunch of qwurestions. Thanks all, I'll be looking for a reply. :) Please use my regular address, as this is the web based email I use when I am not at my home machine. Write back to WebMaster@ZetaValley.com ~Aaron --------------------------------------------------- Get free personalized email at http://www.iname.com From majordomo-users-owner Tue Mar 10 00:52:17 1998 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-970926-1) id UAA06346; Mon, 9 Mar 1998 20:56:01 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail.thegrid.net (mail.thegrid.net [209.162.1.4]) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-980202-1) with ESMTP id UAA06227 for ; Mon, 9 Mar 1998 20:55:30 -0800 (PST) Received: from MAX (oak3-26-132.thegrid.net [209.162.26.132]) by mail.thegrid.net (8.8.7/8.8.5) with SMTP id UAA06202 for ; Mon, 9 Mar 1998 20:55:39 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <199803100455.UAA06202@mail.thegrid.net> X-Sender: i637666@mail.thegrid.net X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 2.1.2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Mon, 09 Mar 1998 20:56:15 -0800 To: majordomo-users@GreatCircle.COM From: Michael Carradine Subject: Re: Unkind Replies Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk At 06:36 PM 3/9/98 -0800, Kynn Bartlett wrote: >>See now if you put all that energy of thought and typing action into a response. >>This guys answer would've been taken care of, he would have been happy, no more >>'foolish' postings to the list, and all would be good. >>; ) > >...until tomorrow when someone else asks the same question. That's why they are called Frequently Asked Questions. They need to be asked "frequently" to qualify for the FAQ. Boy, this is one of the longest threads going so far! Almost as much as... oh, never mind %) Spare me the unkind replies, Michael "Ztupid Mezzagez" Carradine Hey, maybe this list needs to split into two levels(?) The plebian level for novices, all the dumb questions over and over again; and the pro level, entry by invitation only, several months of read-only status, then questions can only be submitted for screening through a mentor, later, only one post per week allowed, finally after a year or two, full PRO status. How sweet it is! From majordomo-users-owner Tue Mar 10 01:20:36 1998 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-970926-1) id WAA21247; Mon, 9 Mar 1998 22:06:39 -0800 (PST) Received: from clifford.inch.com (clifford.inch.com [207.240.140.163]) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-980202-1) with ESMTP id VAA15979 for ; Mon, 9 Mar 1998 21:39:28 -0800 (PST) Received: (from omar@localhost) by clifford.inch.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) id AAA30915; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 00:31:25 -0500 Message-ID: <19980310003125.61482@clifford.inch.com> Date: Tue, 10 Mar 1998 00:31:25 -0500 From: Omar Thameen To: Christopher Lindsey Cc: majordomo-users@GreatCircle.COM Subject: Re: wilma and glimpse References: <19980305021833.46376@clifford.inch.com> <199803051615.KAA17455@ferret.ncsa.uiuc.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.81 In-Reply-To: <199803051615.KAA17455@ferret.ncsa.uiuc.edu>; from Christopher Lindsey on Thu, Mar 05, 1998 at 10:15:31AM -0600 Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk On Thu, Mar 05, 1998 at 10:15:31AM -0600, Christopher Lindsey wrote: > [ Omar Thameen wrote: ] > > > > $ glimpseindex -f -o tmp > > > > and corrupts the database, causing a segmentation fault when I > > subsequently try to glimpse through it. I'm testing at the command > > line here so I can see what the problem is. Anyone else having/had > > this problem? > > I ran into a similar problem when indexing lists with large MHonArc archives > (1000+/month). What I ended up having to do was build a medium-sized > index with the '-b' flag. The '-o' flag that you have builds a small > index. I also wasn't able to use the '-f' file -- after about 10 builds, > the database would become corrupt. > > So try 'glimpseindex -b tmp' and let me know if it helps. Strangely enough, this helped somewhat. I still get the funky characters after the word "merge:" when using the "-f" flag (do you get those?), but the index is not corrupt. The problem now is that if I search the index before the merge with glimpse -i -w 'string1;string2' I get a match. But after adding a single file "newfile" and merging (glimpseindex -b -f tmp), the above search doesn't return anything! A search for _one_ of the strings returns correct results. Additionally, if I search for 2 words that I know are only in "newfile", I _do_ get a correct hit. And if that weren't enough, here's more data: Using the "-a" flag to add a specific file, i.e., glimpseindex -b -a '/home/omar/tmp/newfile' tmp works. Using the "-a" flag with the small index "-o" flag causes a segmentation fault. Seems like the -o flag with any sort of merge ("-a" or "-f") is broken in 4.1 at least. Chris, what version are you running, and do you see any of the additional behavior above? Maybe it's time to email the glimpse developers again. Omar From majordomo-users-owner Tue Mar 10 01:20:37 1998 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-970926-1) id TAA19980; Mon, 9 Mar 1998 19:28:01 -0800 (PST) Received: from gsulaw.gsu.edu ([131.96.87.70]) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-980202-1) with ESMTP id TAA19910 for ; Mon, 9 Mar 1998 19:27:45 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (lawppw@localhost) by gsulaw.gsu.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id WAA06281; Mon, 9 Mar 1998 22:27:35 -0500 Date: Mon, 9 Mar 1998 22:27:35 -0500 (EST) From: Patrick Wiseman To: "JSkaggs@NAIC.ORG" cc: "(a)naic.org" Subject: Re: Addresses in the 'To:' In-Reply-To: <0033300000274209000002L092*@MHS> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk On Mon, 9 Mar 1998, JSkaggs@NAIC.ORG wrote: :When I send a message to 'mylist', of which I am a subscriber, in the 'To:' :it has the users MSMail alias listed, in our case it is the initials of the :recipients, as well as the name of the list from our global address list: I suspect that this is bad MSMail behavior, and nothing to do with Majordomo. Novell's GroupDumb shows Bcc: addresses. Maybe MSMail does something similarly consistent with well-established standards. Patrick From majordomo-users-owner Tue Mar 10 01:20:39 1998 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-970926-1) id TAA22416; Mon, 9 Mar 1998 19:41:59 -0800 (PST) Received: from clifford.inch.com (clifford.inch.com [207.240.140.163]) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-980202-1) with ESMTP id TAA22238 for ; Mon, 9 Mar 1998 19:41:16 -0800 (PST) Received: (from omar@localhost) by clifford.inch.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) id WAA30131; Mon, 9 Mar 1998 22:33:08 -0500 Message-ID: <19980309223308.38686@clifford.inch.com> Date: Mon, 9 Mar 1998 22:33:08 -0500 From: Omar Thameen To: Jason L Tibbitts III Cc: David Meleedy , Majordomo-Users@GreatCircle.COM Subject: Re: Setting up default "advertise" regexps automatically for new lists References: <199803070105.AA10138@adinet.analog.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.81 In-Reply-To: ; from Jason L Tibbitts III on Fri, Mar 06, 1998 at 10:28:54PM -0600 Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk On Fri, Mar 06, 1998 at 10:28:54PM -0600, Jason L Tibbitts III wrote: > >>>>> "DM" == David Meleedy writes: > > DM> 'advertise', > DM> '/\@.*\.analog\.com$/\001/\@[^.]+$/\001/^[^@]+$/', # if regexp matches address show list > > Well, backslash escapes don't interpolate in single-quoted strings, so you > get a literal \001 instead of the character with ASCII value 1 (i.e. a > control-A). (The only escape sequences that are recognized are \\ and \'.) Can't you just put the control characters right in the regexp, or is that bad form? In vi, I would type to get a literal control-A. Omar From majordomo-users-owner Tue Mar 10 03:51:29 1998 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-970926-1) id CAA10174; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 02:57:51 -0800 (PST) Received: from atle.abc.se (atle.abc.se [192.36.170.16]) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-980202-1) with ESMTP id CAA10102 for ; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 02:57:30 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (m8698@localhost) by atle.abc.se (8.8.8+Sun/8.8.5) with SMTP id LAA07460; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 11:57:31 +0100 (MET) X-Authentication-Warning: atle.abc.se: m8698 owned process doing -bs Date: Tue, 10 Mar 1998 11:57:31 +0100 (MET) From: Mats Dufberg X-Sender: m8698@atle To: Angelo Caruso cc: majordomo-users@GreatCircle.COM Subject: Re: footer not working In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk On Mon, 9 Mar 1998, Angelo Caruso wrote: > Have you any idea of the reason why this message footer is completely ignored ? 1. You forgot to use resend, or 2. The mail that you look at are multipart mail, which means that the footer ends up below the mail area. ----------------------------------------------------------------- Mats Dufberg Mats.Dufberg@abc.se From majordomo-users-owner Tue Mar 10 03:56:39 1998 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-970926-1) id CAA09341; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 02:52:46 -0800 (PST) Received: from atle.abc.se (atle.abc.se [192.36.170.16]) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-980202-1) with ESMTP id CAA09237 for ; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 02:52:20 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (m8698@localhost) by atle.abc.se (8.8.8+Sun/8.8.5) with SMTP id LAA07054; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 11:52:23 +0100 (MET) X-Authentication-Warning: atle.abc.se: m8698 owned process doing -bs Date: Tue, 10 Mar 1998 11:52:23 +0100 (MET) From: Mats Dufberg X-Sender: m8698@atle To: Mike Langley cc: majordomo users Subject: Re: resend-host problem In-Reply-To: <012c01bd4570$60e33a80$64356420@realgrafix> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk On Sun, 1 Mar 1998, Mike Langley wrote: > Is it possible to have diffrent majordomo.cf files for each list. The > situation I find myself in is that I'm on a Virtual Server so I have several > domains that use this IP address and use the same majordomo Yes, see FAQ, "3.12 - How do I setup virtual majordomo domains?" ----------------------------------------------------------------- Mats Dufberg Mats.Dufberg@abc.se From majordomo-users-owner Tue Mar 10 03:56:49 1998 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-970926-1) id DAA10996; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 03:05:53 -0800 (PST) Received: from atle.abc.se (atle.abc.se [192.36.170.16]) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-980202-1) with ESMTP id DAA10969 for ; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 03:05:36 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (m8698@localhost) by atle.abc.se (8.8.8+Sun/8.8.5) with SMTP id MAA08072; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 12:05:40 +0100 (MET) X-Authentication-Warning: atle.abc.se: m8698 owned process doing -bs Date: Tue, 10 Mar 1998 12:05:40 +0100 (MET) From: Mats Dufberg X-Sender: m8698@atle To: "JSkaggs@NAIC.ORG" cc: "(a)naic.org" Subject: Re: Addresses in the 'To:' In-Reply-To: <0033300000274209000002L092*@MHS> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk On Mon, 9 Mar 1998, JSkaggs@NAIC.ORG wrote: > What option can I set to make sure that the only name that shows up in the > 'To:' is the listname 'mylist'? The simple answer is, you can't. The TO header is an originating header, and should not be changed. But, if you're willing to change in the code it should not be hard to make your version of resend remove the TO header and insert a new one accoring to your choice. ----------------------------------------------------------------- Mats Dufberg Mats.Dufberg@abc.se From majordomo-users-owner Tue Mar 10 03:56:58 1998 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-970926-1) id CAA05031; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 02:26:47 -0800 (PST) Received: from phoenix.welearn.com.au (suebla.lnk.telstra.net [139.130.44.81]) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-980202-1) with ESMTP id CAA04933 for ; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 02:25:39 -0800 (PST) Received: (from sue@localhost) by phoenix.welearn.com.au (8.8.5/8.8.5) id VAA15185; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 21:25:27 +1100 (EST) Message-ID: <19980310212523.25494@welearn.com.au> Date: Tue, 10 Mar 1998 21:25:23 +1100 From: Sue Blake To: webmaster@zetavalley.com Cc: majordomo-users@GreatCircle.COM Subject: Re: new user needs help References: <199803100404.XAA03308@web02.globecomm.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.88e In-Reply-To: <199803100404.XAA03308@web02.globecomm.net>; from kumba@doglover.com on Mon, Mar 09, 1998 at 11:04:14PM -0500 Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk On Mon, Mar 09, 1998 at 11:04:14PM -0500, kumba@doglover.com wrote: > Greetings all, I assume this is going to be mailed out to a list, yes? > Anyway, I am a new user to MaDo and I need some help installing it on my > system. It might help if we knew what sort of system it is. It looks from here like you're running Windows and using Microsoft products and ICQ for all of your Internet activities, or have I got this totally wrong? Have you read any of the Majordomo documentation yet? -- Regards, -*Sue*- From majordomo-users-owner Tue Mar 10 03:57:08 1998 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-970926-1) id UAA27754; Mon, 9 Mar 1998 20:14:13 -0800 (PST) Received: from clifford.inch.com (clifford.inch.com [207.240.140.163]) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-980202-1) with ESMTP id UAA27654 for ; Mon, 9 Mar 1998 20:13:40 -0800 (PST) Received: (from omar@localhost) by clifford.inch.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) id XAA30412; Mon, 9 Mar 1998 23:05:35 -0500 Message-ID: <19980309230535.40988@clifford.inch.com> Date: Mon, 9 Mar 1998 23:05:35 -0500 From: Omar Thameen To: mattmc@ans.net Cc: majordomo-users@GreatCircle.COM Subject: Re: Trouble with -h option References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.81 In-Reply-To: ; from Matt McLean on Mon, Mar 09, 1998 at 12:16:26PM -0500 Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk On Mon, Mar 09, 1998 at 12:16:26PM -0500, Matt McLean wrote: > Folks, > > Majordomo 1.94.4 > Perl 5.003 > Solaris 2.5.1 (Sun hardware) > ESMTP Sendmail 8.8.7/8.8.7 > > I'm trying to have Majordomo send mail out from a different domain than > its' hostname. I have the domain I want set in the $whereami field > in my majordomo.cf. Majordomo is run as a trusted user to sendmail, > so it should have no problem with the -f and/or -F option to sendmail. > I also have the -h option set after resend. It just doesn't seem to be > trying to use the alternate domain? All the mail it sends out is going > to list@fully.qualified.machine.name and not the domain I have specified > in $whereami. > > What am I missing? Try this: Check your sendmail.cf file and set # who I masquerade as (null for no masquerading) (see also $=M) DMmasquerade.host.domain to null. I found that if you have masquerading defined, then when you have a list of addresses accessed via an :include: statement in an alias file, sendmail forces the From: line to be rewritten with the DMmasquerade.host.domain string as specified in the sendmail.cf file. I don't know why it happens only with the use of :include: files and not with single addresses (I observed this experimentally), but when we set the "who do I masquerade as" to null in the config file, everything worked. On a somewhat related note, if you have masquerading defined, the "From " (i.e., the envelope) gets written with the hostname. There are ways around this. http://www.sendmail.org/faq/section3.html#3.16 Omar From majordomo-users-owner Tue Mar 10 06:28:15 1998 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-970926-1) id FAA24463; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 05:53:35 -0800 (PST) Received: from ns1.midco.net (ns1.midco.net [208.146.80.1]) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-980202-1) with ESMTP id FAA24400 for ; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 05:53:11 -0800 (PST) From: jim_barrett@mmi.net Received: from smtp.mmi.net (mmi.net [208.146.81.132]) by ns1.midco.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id HAA03810 for ; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 07:53:33 -0600 (CST) Received: from ccMail by smtp.mmi.net (ccMail Link to SMTP R6.0) id AA889537782; Tue, 10 Mar 98 07:49:45 -0600 Message-Id: <9803108895.AA889537782@smtp.mmi.net> X-Mailer: ccMail Link to SMTP R6.0 Date: Tue, 10 Mar 98 07:48:02 -0600 To: Subject: info MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk From majordomo-users-owner Tue Mar 10 07:51:49 1998 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-970926-1) id HAA14623; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 07:45:11 -0800 (PST) Received: from smailva1.slma.com (smailva1.slma.com [167.104.32.43]) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-980202-1) with ESMTP id HAA14431 for ; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 07:44:28 -0800 (PST) Received: from smailva1-gw.slma.com by smailva1.slma.com (X.400 to RFC822 Gateway); Tue, 10 Mar 1998 10:42:37 -0500 X400-Received: by mta MTASallieMae in /c=US/admd= /prmd=SallieMae/; Relayed; 10 Mar 1998 10:42:37 -0500 X400-Received: by /c=US/admd= /prmd=SallieMae/; Relayed; 10 Mar 1998 10:42:37 -0500 X400-MTS-Identifier: [/c=US/admd= /prmd=SallieMae/; 022A535055F6D007-MTASallieMae] Content-Identifier: 022A535055F6D007 Content-Return: Allowed X400-Content-Type: P2-1988 ( 22 ) Conversion: Allowed Original-Encoded-Information-Types: IA5-Text Disclose-Recipients: Prohibited Alternate-Recipient: Allowed X400-Originator: Andrew.Witt@slma.com X400-Recipients: non-disclosure; Message-Id: <"022A535055F6D007*/c=us/admd= /prmd=salliemae/o=salliemae/ou=Notes/ou=71020/s=Witt/g=Andrew/"@MHS> Date: 10 Mar 1998 10:42:37 -0500 From: Andrew Witt To: Majordomo-Users@GreatCircle.COM (IPM Return requested) Subject: Re: REPOST: eliminate "Majordomo results" email for subscrip MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk > GP> I would like to eliminate the "Majordomo results" email to a subscriber > GP> since he already receive a "Welcome to " email. Any idea how to > GP> do that ? > You cannot. The command acknowledgment will always be sent. What do you > propose to do when the user sends more than one command in a message? What > about when the request goes to the owner for confirmation? You cannot without modifiying the code. I have modified Majordomo on my system to send neither a 'results' message nor a 'welcome' message in certain circumstances: the users of the Majordomo installation which I run are all employees of the company I work for, so their addresses are tied to an independent directory. When an employee leaves it behoves me to remove their name from whatever lists they are on, and when an employee's address changes, I need to update the address on the lists they are on. So, I have a daily process scan the lists and compare the addresses to the directory, and issue 'unsubscribe' commands for terms and 'unsubscribe / subscribe' commands for address changes. However, users were confused about receiving the 'welcome' message when they hadn't issued a request, and list owners who did not know that a person's name had changed were confused by the notices they received. ("Why was Joanne Wagner taken off my list, and who is this Joanne Peterson person?") So I gave Majordomo a new command, called 'automate'. This command works exactly like the 'approve' command, except that it sets a flag which surpresses the sending of the response messages. (Making the routines which mail the responses sensative to such a flag was of course also a modification of the code). All other commands issue the response messages as normal. So you *can* make Majordomo surpress response messages, but you need to modify the code. Sounds like what you, Gildas, are looking for is a bit different, but the code is all there; you can make Majordomo as clever as you need it to be. - Andrew (p.s.; for the sceptics: I run 471 lists with a combined total of 9370 addresses (as of today), in a company of 5000 people, and the daily scan for invalid / changed addresses takes less than 2 minutes each morning. I have a *nice* mailhub.) (p.p.s.; Yes, from a certain perspective it would have been better to educate my user population, but I just couldn't seem to fit training classes for 5000 people into my normal schedule. Also, as I am sure we all know, there are *some* users who just refuse to learn. I have an inordinate percentage of them. Besides, the hack was simple *and* fun :-) +-------------------------------------------------------------------+ | SallieMae | Andrew Witt, Mail Team | | Helping Make Education Possible | Helping Make SallieMae Possible | | http://www.salliemae.com | andrew.witt@slma.com | +-------------------------------------------------------------------+ From majordomo-users-owner Tue Mar 10 08:14:11 1998 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-970926-1) id GAA26744; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 06:09:32 -0800 (PST) Received: from kronos.nhgri.nih.gov (nhgri.nih.gov [165.112.191.6]) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-980202-1) with ESMTP id GAA26721 for ; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 06:09:22 -0800 (PST) Received: from athena (athena.nhgri.nih.gov [165.112.191.101]) by kronos.nhgri.nih.gov (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id JAA25112; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 09:09:44 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199803101409.JAA25112@kronos.nhgri.nih.gov> Date: Tue, 10 Mar 1998 09:09:44 -0500 (EST) From: Jim McVey Reply-To: Jim McVey Subject: Re: footer not working To: majordomo-users@GreatCircle.COM, angelocr@tin.it MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-MD5: rf9p93GTJCuc1Jbx23HQ+w== X-Mailer: dtmail 1.2.1 CDE Version 1.2.1 SunOS 5.6 sun4m sparc Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk > Have you any idea of the reason why this message footer is completely ignored ? > > Otherwise the config file works. > > Thanks, > Angelo. > > >>>> > # message_footer [string_array] (undef) > # Text to be appended at the end of all messages posted to the > # list. The text is expanded before being used. The following > # expansion tokens are defined: $LIST - the name of the current > # list, $SENDER - the sender as taken from the from line, $VERSION, > # the version of majordomo. If used in a digest, no expansion > # tokens are provided > message_footer << END > > ----------------------------****---------------------------------------- > Lista nettuno-economia. Per info > > END > > <<<< The comments at the beginning of the config file say: # Within a here document for a string_array, the '-' sign takes on a special # significance. # # To embed a blank line in the here document, put a '-' as the first # and ONLY character on the line. # # To preserve whitespace at the beginning of a line, put a - on the # line before the whitespace to be preserved # # To put a literal '-' at the beginning of a line, double it. # # So wherever you want a blank line, put a "-" instead. Jim --- Jim McVey NHGRI LAN Support jmcvey@nhgri.nih.gov From majordomo-users-owner Tue Mar 10 12:09:05 1998 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-970926-1) id KAA20561; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 10:37:45 -0800 (PST) Received: from server.amazonline.com.br (server.amazonline.com.br [200.242.255.1]) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-980202-1) with ESMTP id KAA20429 for ; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 10:37:20 -0800 (PST) Received: from server.amazonline.com.br (mauricio@server.amazonline.com.br [200.242.255.1]) by server.amazonline.com.br (8.8.7/8.6.9) with SMTP id PAA00417; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 15:29:44 -0300 Date: Tue, 10 Mar 1998 15:29:44 -0300 (EST) From: Mauricio Teixeira To: Angelo Caruso cc: majordomo-users@GreatCircle.COM Subject: Re: footer not working In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk On Mon, 9 Mar 1998, Angelo Caruso wrote: > message_footer << END > > ----------------------------****---------------------------------------- > Lista nettuno-economia. Per info You cannot use blank lines between the "message_footer" line and the first line of your footer... /* ================================================ */ /* Mauricio Teixeira - Technical Manager */ /* Amazonline Internet Provider - Belem/PA/Brazil */ /* mauricio@amazonline.com.br || badman@brasnet.org */ /* ================================================ */ From majordomo-users-owner Tue Mar 10 13:05:34 1998 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-970926-1) id KAA13963; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 10:06:57 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail.cis.ohio-state.edu (mail.cis.ohio-state.edu [164.107.8.55]) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-980202-1) with SMTP id KAA13929 for ; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 10:06:45 -0800 (PST) Received: from stumble.cis.ohio-state.edu (stumble.cis.ohio-state.edu [164.107.128.12]) by mail.cis.ohio-state.edu (8.6.7/8.6.4) with ESMTP id NAA25501 for ; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 13:06:53 -0500 Message-Id: <199803101806.NAA25501@mail.cis.ohio-state.edu> To: majordomo-users@GreatCircle.COM Subject: Re: What in the heck... In-reply-to: Your message of "Tue, 03 Mar 1998 15:44:12 PST." References: X-URL: http://www.cis.ohio-state.edu/~barr/ Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Tue, 10 Mar 1998 13:06:53 -0500 From: Dave Barr Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk See the Majordomo FAQ. --Dave In message , Ken Gordon writes: >does > >MAJORDOMO ABORT > >open of temp file /usr/local/domo/lists/shlock.715 failed >Permission denied. > >mean? > >All files in the domo directory are mode 775, the aliases file has NOT >been changed, no files have been edited (as far as I can tell), and when I >send a "lists" command to majordomo, it returns the command and a line >about, Majordomo@xxxxx serves these lists: > >and then nothing after that. > >What gives? > >Ken Gordon > > From majordomo-users-owner Tue Mar 10 13:13:24 1998 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-970926-1) id LAA00823; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 11:24:31 -0800 (PST) Received: from sina.hpc.uh.edu (Sina.HPC.UH.EDU [129.7.3.5]) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-980202-1) with ESMTP id LAA00815 for ; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 11:24:26 -0800 (PST) Received: (from tibbs@localhost) by sina.hpc.uh.edu (8.7.3/8.7.3) id NAA15475; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 13:25:00 -0600 (CST) To: majordomo-users Subject: Re: What in the world is RTFM? References: Mime-Version: 1.0 (generated by tm-edit 7.100) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII From: Jason L Tibbitts III Date: 10 Mar 1998 13:24:59 -0600 In-Reply-To: Bruce Campbell's message of Tue, 10 Mar 1998 17:11:25 +1000 (EST) Message-ID: Lines: 21 X-Mailer: Gnus v5.4.46/Emacs 19.34 Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk >>>>> "BC" == Bruce Campbell writes: BC> Of course, questions which get the response of 'RTFM' are usually made BC> at a bad time for the one who answers, so the 'F' is added, ie: Actually I find it best to read it like this: If you're on the receiving end, it means "Read The (Fancy|Fine|Fun) Manual". Read it this way to prevent singed eyebrows and squashed egos. If you're on the sending end, it means "Read The Fucking Manual". Read it this way to vent maximum frustration. Also applicable to many of these situations is "UTSL" (Use the Source, Luke). If you are up there with asking sufficiently wizardly questions about sufficient bizarre things, you should just be able to read the program and figure it out because at a certain level the program is its own documentation. Note the absence of an 'F'; wizards respect one another and know that the 'F' is implied. - J< From majordomo-users-owner Tue Mar 10 13:19:14 1998 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-970926-1) id MAA11590; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 12:06:38 -0800 (PST) Received: from miles.greatcircle.com (miles.greatcircle.com [198.102.244.45]) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-980202-1) with ESMTP id LAA02707 for ; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 11:38:39 -0800 (PST) Received: from polaris.azstarnet.com (polaris.azstarnet.com [169.197.1.7]) by miles.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA15489 for ; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 11:37:18 -0800 (PST) Received: from Pbish (dialup07ip100.tus.azstarnet.com [169.197.33.100]) by polaris.azstarnet.com (8.8.5-nerd/8.8.5) with SMTP id MAA28589 for ; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 12:37:44 -0700 (MST) Message-Id: <199803101937.MAA28589@polaris.azstarnet.com> X-Sent-via: StarNet http://www.azstarnet.com/ From: "Bob Bish" Organization: http://www.humvee.com To: majordomo-users@GreatCircle.COM Date: Tue, 10 Mar 1998 12:37:41 +0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Subject: Re: Unkind Replies Reply-to: bish@azstarnet.com In-reply-to: <199803100455.UAA06202@mail.thegrid.net> Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk > Hey, maybe this list needs to split into two levels(?) The > plebian level for novices, all the dumb questions over and over > again; and the pro level, C'mon, this is a bit extreme. I run a list for owners of Hummers, often thought to be snotty rich people (not really true). New owners join the list all the time and often ask basic questions which have been asked and answered many times. The listmembers patiently answer the newbies' questions or refer them to the proper online document. Why are list managers not as patient and understanding as Hummer owners? As someone already said, if you're going to write a paragraph chastising someone for asking a "dumb" question, you might as well just answer the question. ...Bob From majordomo-users-owner Tue Mar 10 13:27:53 1998 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-970926-1) id KAA18096; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 10:25:54 -0800 (PST) Received: from sparkie.osl.state.or.us (sparkie.osl.state.or.us [192.84.215.34]) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-980202-1) with SMTP id KAA18048 for ; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 10:25:40 -0800 (PST) Received: (from chris@localhost) by sparkie.osl.state.or.us (8.6.9/8.6.9) id KAA03990; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 10:26:58 -0800 Date: Tue, 10 Mar 1998 10:26:57 -0800 (PST) From: Christopher Adams To: majordomo-users@greatcircle.com Subject: subject field question Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk I did search the archives. I did read the FAQ. I did upgrade. My question: I know that I can enter the $LIST in the Subject field, but I want to know if there is a way for the Subject to be entered at the top of each incoming message, as you can with some of the other variables. A user wants a default phrase, like "Message to test list" to show up in the subject field, as configured in the list.config and then the subject entered by the sender to show up at the top of each message. Sounds like it would take a bit of magic and probably can't be done. Any ideas? Christopher Adams Automated Systems Oregon State Library chris@sparkie.osl.state.or.us From majordomo-users-owner Tue Mar 10 13:51:50 1998 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-970926-1) id NAA25518; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 13:18:02 -0800 (PST) Received: from ayla.idyllmtn.com (ayla.idyllmtn.com [206.16.238.1]) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-980202-1) with ESMTP id HAA06751 for ; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 07:09:20 -0800 (PST) Received: (from kynn@localhost) by ayla.idyllmtn.com (8.8.7/8.8.7) id HAA04410; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 07:03:27 -0800 (PST) From: Kynn Bartlett Message-Id: <199803101503.HAA04410@ayla.idyllmtn.com> Subject: Re: Unkind Replies To: stathy@jaske.com (Stathy Touloumis) Date: Tue, 10 Mar 1998 07:03:26 -0800 (PST) Cc: majordomo-users@GreatCircle.COM In-Reply-To: <3504B652.77E6E7D7@jaske.com> from "Stathy Touloumis" at Mar 9, 98 09:41:06 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] Content-Type: text Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk I said: > > ...until tomorrow when someone else asks the same question. Someone asked: > True, but haven't you found in the process of teaching that you yourself grasped a > deeper understanding of the topic being taught? Yeah, the first eight or nine times. --Kynn From majordomo-users-owner Tue Mar 10 14:06:08 1998 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-970926-1) id NAA29218; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 13:38:29 -0800 (PST) Received: from mint.mint-tech.com (mint.mint-tech.com [207.60.179.194]) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-980202-1) with ESMTP id NAA29026 for ; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 13:37:55 -0800 (PST) Received: from krusty.mint-tech.com (krusty.mint-tech.com [207.60.179.209]) by mint.mint-tech.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id QAA12910 for ; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 16:40:04 -0500 (EST) Received: from krusty.mint-tech.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by krusty.mint-tech.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id QAA23628 for ; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 16:39:37 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199803102139.QAA23628@krusty.mint-tech.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0.2 2/24/98 To: majordomo-users@greatcircle.com (MajorDomo Users) Subject: How to turn off resend.debug and majordomo.debug Reply-to: Jim_Reisert@mint-tech.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Tue, 10 Mar 1998 16:39:37 -0500 From: Jim Reisert Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk I was poking around one of my MajorDomo servers, and found two interesting files in the /var/tmp directory: -rw-rw---- 1 majordom wheel 53013674 Mar 10 15:33 resend.debug -rw-rw---- 1 majordom wheel 11996 Mar 5 15:53 majordomo.debug The resend.debug file has a bunch of warning messages from Perl5 all stimulated by using TLB (it's a BSD system, it works but spews out a lot of warnings). Is there a way to turn off the writing to these two log files? - Jim -- Jim Reisert Voice: 978.663.0225 x123 Mint Technology Fax: 978.663.2070 6 Fortune Drive Email: jim_reisert@mint-tech.com Billerica, MA 01821 WWW: http://www.mint-tech.com From majordomo-users-owner Tue Mar 10 14:21:52 1998 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-970926-1) id OAA02821; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 14:08:59 -0800 (PST) Received: from miles.greatcircle.com (miles.greatcircle.com [198.102.244.45]) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-980202-1) with ESMTP id OAA02728 for ; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 14:08:38 -0800 (PST) Received: from sina.hpc.uh.edu (Sina.HPC.UH.EDU [129.7.3.5]) by miles.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA16103 for ; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 13:38:48 -0800 (PST) Received: (from tibbs@localhost) by sina.hpc.uh.edu (8.7.3/8.7.3) id PAA18591; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 15:39:25 -0600 (CST) To: Christopher Adams Cc: majordomo-users@GreatCircle.COM Subject: Re: subject field question References: Mime-Version: 1.0 (generated by tm-edit 7.100) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII From: Jason L Tibbitts III Date: 10 Mar 1998 15:39:24 -0600 In-Reply-To: Christopher Adams's message of Tue, 10 Mar 1998 10:26:57 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: Lines: 11 X-Mailer: Gnus v5.4.46/Emacs 19.34 Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk >>>>> "CA" == Christopher Adams writes: CA> I know that I can enter the $LIST in the Subject field, but I want to CA> know if there is a way for the Subject to be entered at the top of each CA> incoming message, as you can with some of the other variables. Are you talking about message_fronter? (Sorry, I can't tell from your description.) Right now you can't substitute something like $SUBJECT, but it's pretty easy to hack it so that it does work. Can you change the code? - J< From majordomo-users-owner Tue Mar 10 14:46:12 1998 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-970926-1) id OAA03524; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 14:13:31 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail.virginia.edu (mail.Virginia.EDU [128.143.2.9]) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-980202-1) with SMTP id OAA03471 for ; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 14:13:19 -0800 (PST) Received: from vivaldi.acc.virginia.edu by mail.virginia.edu id aa27585; 10 Mar 98 17:13 EST Received: (from mwm3q@localhost) by vivaldi.acc.Virginia.EDU (8.8.5/8.6.6) id RAA10467 for majordomo-users@greatcircle.com; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 17:13:44 -0500 (EST) Date: Tue, 10 Mar 1998 17:13:44 -0500 (EST) From: "Mark W. Manley" Message-Id: <199803102213.RAA10467@vivaldi.acc.Virginia.EDU> X-Mailer: Mail User's Shell (7.2.5 10/14/92) To: majordomo-users@greatcircle.com Subject: disabling "newconfig" command? Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk Hi, I'm thinking of using Majordomo for the mailing list software for our project at the University of Virginia. I'm not going to go into too much detail about the project, but it involves giving faculty automatic mailing lists so that they can e-mail their students without having to go through large hoops (i.e. finding out all their students' names, then subscribing them to the lists). I've figured out how to get Majordomo to not disclose the membership of the lists by turning off "who" command in the list configuration files, but to ensure security I need to make sure that that feature remains disabled. If an unscrupulous student were to find the list owner password, then we could be liable for disclosing protected student data. I would take it upon myself to modify the majordomo source code to reject any such attempt, but we need to be able to distribute this code to other educational institutions. I believe that modifying the code and distributing it would break the site license on the homepage. Does anyone know how to disable this feature in the current configuration without modifying the code. If not, could this feature be added to the next distribution of majordomo (which would probably need to go to a separate list). Please write me directly so that I know. I am not a part of this mailing list, since I'm not sure if this software is going to be appropriate or not. MM From majordomo-users-owner Tue Mar 10 15:50:49 1998 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-970926-1) id OAA07002; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 14:36:06 -0800 (PST) Received: from praline.no.neosoft.com (praline.no.NeoSoft.COM [206.27.160.253]) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-980202-1) with SMTP id OAA03575 for ; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 14:13:46 -0800 (PST) Received: (qmail 25843 invoked by uid 10086); 10 Mar 1998 22:14:07 -0000 Date: Tue, 10 Mar 1998 16:14:07 -0600 (CST) From: Ray Jones Reply-To: Ray Jones To: Mauricio Teixeira cc: Angelo Caruso , majordomo-users@GreatCircle.COM Subject: Re: footer not working In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk On Tue, 10 Mar 1998, Mauricio Teixeira wrote: > You cannot use blank lines between the "message_footer" line and > the first line of your footer... Well, that depends on how you look at it. Granted, you can't WRITE a message footer with blank lines in it, but you can HAVE a message footer with blank lines in it. The docs say to use a line with ONLY "-" (sans quotes) to signify a blank line. I have two blank lines which begin my message footer. I've had it for a long time and it works perfectly. In other words, use the following format: message_footer << END - - this would be the message footer with two blank lines above it END -- Regards, "Big Ray the Cab Driver" Jones - Licensed Tour Guide ICQ UIN 1473313 Disseminating info about New Orleans & Louisiana via my web page at http://www.neosoft.com/~rayjones/welcome.html or you can join "Big Ray's" New Orleans Mailing List by sending: subscribe noml To: majordomo@communique.net From majordomo-users-owner Tue Mar 10 16:54:32 1998 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-970926-1) id PAA22117; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 15:58:45 -0800 (PST) Received: from piobaire.mines.uidaho.edu (piobaire.mines.uidaho.edu [129.101.8.252]) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-980202-1) with ESMTP id PAA21952 for ; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 15:58:13 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (keng@localhost) by piobaire.mines.uidaho.edu (8.8.3/8.6.12) with SMTP id PAA03715; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 15:58:55 -0800 (PST) X-Authentication-Warning: piobaire.mines.uidaho.edu: keng owned process doing -bs Date: Tue, 10 Mar 1998 15:58:54 -0800 (PST) From: Ken Gordon X-Sender: keng@piobaire.mines.uidaho.edu To: Dave Barr cc: majordomo-users@GreatCircle.COM Subject: Re: What in the heck... In-Reply-To: <199803101806.NAA25501@mail.cis.ohio-state.edu> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk > See the Majordomo FAQ. Did. My problem wasn't in there. Already found it: permissions:owner of the wrapper were incorrect. Ken From majordomo-users-owner Tue Mar 10 17:06:32 1998 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-970926-1) id QAA03165; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 16:47:57 -0800 (PST) Received: from sass165.sandia.gov (mailgate.sandia.gov [132.175.109.1]) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-980202-1) with ESMTP id QAA03094 for ; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 16:47:37 -0800 (PST) Received: from sahp666.sandia.gov (sahp666.sandia.gov [134.253.48.10]) by sass165.sandia.gov (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id RAA07545 for ; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 17:47:40 -0700 (MST) Received: by sahp666.sandia.gov with Internet Mail Service (5.5.1960.3) id ; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 17:47:42 -0700 Message-ID: <7991403ECD77D111A916080009A54C170BF923@sahp666.sandia.gov> From: "Davis, Robert E" To: "'Majordomo-Users@GreatCircle.com'" Subject: 18 out of 19 to sendmail Date: Tue, 10 Mar 1998 17:47:33 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.1960.3) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk We are using Majordomo1.94.3 and sendmail 8.8.7 Perl 5.03. I need help with what routine parses blocks of users with the same desination to sendmail. sendmail:to=u19,u18,u17,u16,u15,......,u2@a Then u1@a is lost. Next, sendmail:to=u38,u37,..............u21@a and u20@a is lost etc. Where might my problem be sendmail, majordomo, resend, wrapper? Thanks in advance. Robert E. Davis, Org-04911, (505)844-6817 Sandia National Laboratories Email Team, Entity Accounts, and MajorDomo Distribution Lists From majordomo-users-owner Tue Mar 10 17:20:30 1998 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-970926-1) id OAA06930; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 14:35:32 -0800 (PST) Received: from ruby (ruby.co.clark.nv.us [198.200.132.17]) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-980202-1) with SMTP id OAA03574 for ; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 14:13:45 -0800 (PST) Received: by ruby; (5.65v3.2/1.3/10May95) id AA31494; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 14:14:45 -0800 Received: from jade.co.clark.nv.us (jade) by mailhub.co.clark.nv.us (PMDF V5.1-6 #9659) with SMTP id <01IUI5RNLKOG8Y85U0@mailhub.co.clark.nv.us>; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 14:13:32 PDT Received: from localhost by jade.co.clark.nv.us (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/10Mar97-0928AM) id AA06457; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 14:13:50 -0800 Date: Tue, 10 Mar 1998 14:13:50 -0800 (PST) From: Joseph Scanlan Subject: Re: What in the world is RTFM? In-Reply-To: To: Bruce Campbell Cc: majordomo-users Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk On Tue, 10 Mar 1998, Bruce Campbell wrote: > RTFM quite plainly means: > > Read The Manual. Someone in tech. support once told me RTFM stood for Read The Friendly Manual. Uh, huh. ;-) ------------- My opinions are mine alone, and that fact ------------- ------------- provides intense relief for my coworkers. ------------- Joe Scanlan N7XSD Clark County, Nevada Systems Programmer Informations Systems jps@accessnv.com (not work) PO Box 551761 jps@co.clark.nv.us (work) Las Vegas, NV 89155-1761 702 455-4932 (FAX) USA --------------------- http://www.co.clark.nv.us --------------------- ------------------- http://coyote.accessnv.com/jps ------------------ From majordomo-users-owner Tue Mar 10 17:26:34 1998 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-970926-1) id RAA07650; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 17:12:01 -0800 (PST) Received: from vpm.com (spunky.vpm.com [209.60.152.2]) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-980202-1) with ESMTP id RAA07602 for ; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 17:11:49 -0800 (PST) Received: from marks (marks.vpm.com [209.60.152.15]) by vpm.com (8.8.6/8.8.6) with SMTP id RAA16971 for ; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 17:12:33 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <3.0.1.32.19980310171504.00a9d3d0@vpm.com> X-Sender: staff@vpm.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.1 (32) Date: Tue, 10 Mar 1998 17:15:04 -0800 To: Majordomo-Users@GreatCircle.COM From: VPM Enterprises Support Subject: Majordomo stopped working Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk Hi I upgraded to Perl v5.004 over the weekend. Now that I did, none of my lists work and sendmail is now returning the error messages below to some, but not all email accounts. Anyone know what I can do to correct this? The OS is FreeBSD v2.2.1 on an Intel Pentium box with Majordomo v1.94.4 and sendmail is v8.8.6. Mar 10 16:53:14 www sendmail[14628]: QAA14628: Losing qfQAA14628: savemail panic Mar 10 16:53:14 www sendmail[14628]: QAA14628: SYSERR(root): savemail: cannot save rejected email anywhere: Permission denied My /etc/aliases file is up to date. Below are the permissions I have set for both sendmail and my mail queue directory. I'm not sure where else to look. I've tried different settings on sendmail to 4755 and 4555 but that didn't work. -rwxr-xr-x 5 root bin 310964 Mar 9 16:16 /usr/sbin/sendmail drwxr-xr-x 2 root daemon 228352 Mar 10 16:59 /var/spool/mqueue ========================================================================== VPM Support Staff http://www.vpm.com/ VPM Enterprises support@vpm.com (800) 321-0221 Providing Secured Web Hosting and Online Credit Card Processing ========================================================================== From majordomo-users-owner Tue Mar 10 17:33:38 1998 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-970926-1) id PAA21311; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 15:54:33 -0800 (PST) Received: from ex1.ncsa.uiuc.edu (ex1.ncsa.uiuc.edu [141.142.3.16]) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-980202-1) with ESMTP id PAA21144 for ; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 15:54:01 -0800 (PST) Received: from mx1.ncsa.uiuc.edu (mx1.ncsa.uiuc.edu [141.142.3.15]) by ex1.ncsa.uiuc.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id RAA16425; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 17:54:25 -0600 (CST) Received: from ferret.ncsa.uiuc.edu (ferret.ncsa.uiuc.edu [141.142.21.119]) by mx1.ncsa.uiuc.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id RAA18613; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 17:54:25 -0600 (CST) Received: (from lindsey@localhost) by ferret.ncsa.uiuc.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) id RAA32492; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 17:54:23 -0600 From: Christopher Lindsey Message-Id: <199803102354.RAA32492@ferret.ncsa.uiuc.edu> Subject: Re: wilma and glimpse To: omar@clifford.inch.com (Omar Thameen) Date: Tue, 10 Mar 1998 17:54:23 -0600 (CST) Cc: lindsey@ncsa.uiuc.edu, majordomo-users@GreatCircle.COM In-Reply-To: <19980310003125.61482@clifford.inch.com> from "Omar Thameen" at Mar 10, 98 00:31:25 am Content-Type: text Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk > I get a match. But after adding a single file "newfile" and merging > (glimpseindex -b -f tmp), the above search doesn't return anything! > A search for _one_ of the strings returns correct results. Additionally, > if I search for 2 words that I know are only in "newfile", I _do_ get a > correct hit. This all sounds vaguely familiar. This is why I actually end up rebuilding the entire database every night (just 'glimseindex -b tmp'), and then it's ok. Unfortunately, it takes forever to index my archives (about 95 megs worth). > Using the "-a" flag with the small index "-o" flag causes a segmentation > fault. Seems like the -o flag with any sort of merge ("-a" or "-f") > is broken in 4.1 at least. This also sounds familiar. I only ran into problems when I started get a lot of messages, though. > Chris, what version are you running, and do you see any of the additional > behavior above? Maybe it's time to email the glimpse developers again. I'm using glimpse 4.1. I contacted the glimpse developers at one time, but they all seemed kind of "snobbish." I also asked them about some other "features" in glimpse -- for example, when searching for two words separated by a space, glimpse will return matches for that string. But when using '-N' and '-c' (search the index and return a count), glimpse adds a logical AND in between, returning a much larger number. :( It's still a nice package though. Chris From majordomo-users-owner Tue Mar 10 18:06:09 1998 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-970926-1) id RAA12103; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 17:39:11 -0800 (PST) Received: from ncr-sd.SanDiegoCA.NCR.COM (h153-64-251-18.NCR.COM [153.64.251.18]) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-980202-1) with ESMTP id RAA11706 for ; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 17:37:55 -0800 (PST) Received: from jabberwocky (jabberwocky.SanDiegoCA.NCR.COM [153.64.69.123]) by ncr-sd.SanDiegoCA.NCR.COM (8.8.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id RAA21126; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 17:37:22 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <199803110137.RAA21126@ncr-sd.SanDiegoCA.NCR.COM> X-Sender: bhoule@www.sandiegoca.ncr.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.0 Date: Tue, 10 Mar 1998 17:35:54 -0800 To: Ken Gordon , Dave Barr From: Bill Houle Subject: Re: What in the heck... Cc: majordomo-users@GreatCircle.COM In-Reply-To: References: <199803101806.NAA25501@mail.cis.ohio-state.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk At 03:58 PM 3/10/98 -0800, Ken Gordon wrote: >> See the Majordomo FAQ. > >Did. > >My problem wasn't in there. If anyone would know, it would be Dave. If he says its in the FAQ, it is: 2.2 - I get a MAJORDOMO ABORT with "chown(...): Not owner" or ".. Operation not permitted" Most likely your wrapper is not installed correctly. Re-check the Makefile and see if the wrapper was compiled with the right UID and GID. > >Already found it: permissions:owner of the wrapper were incorrect. From majordomo-users-owner Tue Mar 10 18:12:03 1998 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-970926-1) id RAA14718; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 17:47:32 -0800 (PST) Received: from ncr-sd.SanDiegoCA.NCR.COM (h153-64-251-18.NCR.COM [153.64.251.18]) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-980202-1) with ESMTP id PAA16556 for ; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 15:31:36 -0800 (PST) Received: from jabberwocky (jabberwocky.SanDiegoCA.NCR.COM [153.64.69.123]) by ncr-sd.SanDiegoCA.NCR.COM (8.8.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id PAA00426; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 15:31:02 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <199803102331.PAA00426@ncr-sd.SanDiegoCA.NCR.COM> X-Sender: bhoule@www.sandiegoca.ncr.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.0 Date: Tue, 10 Mar 1998 15:28:33 -0800 To: "Mark W. Manley" , majordomo-users@GreatCircle.COM From: Bill Houle Subject: Re: disabling "newconfig" command? In-Reply-To: <199803102213.RAA10467@vivaldi.acc.Virginia.EDU> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk At 05:13 PM 3/10/98 -0500, Mark W. Manley wrote: > >Does anyone know how to disable this feature in the current >configuration without modifying the code. If an "unscrupulous student" obtained your password, 'newc*nfig' is only one of many other things to worry about (there's also 'appr*ve wh*', 'appr*ve [un]zubscribe', etc). This is analogous to asking your sysadmin if the UNIX "passwd" command can be removed so that /etc/passwd cannot be changed. If the cracker is already in, all you are doing is punishing the users. Strict password management is what is called for, not a crippling of software. --bill From majordomo-users-owner Tue Mar 10 18:18:01 1998 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-970926-1) id RAA15992; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 17:52:44 -0800 (PST) Received: from siren.shore.net (siren.shore.net [207.244.124.5]) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-980202-1) with SMTP id RAA15980 for ; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 17:52:38 -0800 (PST) Received: from smoe.org [204.167.97.154] (jeffw) by siren.shore.net with esmtp (Exim) id 0yCahe-0003SY-00; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 20:53:06 -0500 Received: (from jeffw@localhost) by smoe.org (8.8.7/8.8.7/daemon-mode-relay2) id UAA21833; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 20:55:27 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <19980310205526.58471@smoe.org> Date: Tue, 10 Mar 1998 20:55:26 -0500 From: Jeff Wasilko To: Chris Cc: majordomo-users@greatcircle.com Subject: Re: List Problems References: <3505C11F.73A54E7B@home.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.76 In-Reply-To: <3505C11F.73A54E7B@home.com>; from "Chris" on Tue, Mar 10, 1998 at 05:39:27PM -0500 Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk On Tue, Mar 10, 1998 at 05:39:27PM -0500, Chris wrote: > I'm having problems with my list. I sent a test message to the list, > and it appears that everyone has recieved the message but me. I have a > total of 5 people on my list, and 3 have replied that they have recieved > the test message. One of the people who replied is below my address in > the lists address file. > > Any ideas what is going on? I should recieve my own post to the list, > right? Not exactly. Have you checked your sendmail configuration? Majordomo doesn't handle delivery. Searching http://www.hpc.uh.edu/majordomo-users/ for sendmail;metoo should answer your question. Jeff From majordomo-users-owner Tue Mar 10 18:21:53 1998 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-970926-1) id SAA19572; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 18:09:27 -0800 (PST) Received: from miles.greatcircle.com (miles.greatcircle.com [198.102.244.45]) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-980202-1) with ESMTP id SAA19319 for ; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 18:08:38 -0800 (PST) Received: from sina.hpc.uh.edu (Sina.HPC.UH.EDU [129.7.3.5]) by miles.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id RAA18958 for ; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 17:40:20 -0800 (PST) Received: (from tibbs@localhost) by sina.hpc.uh.edu (8.7.3/8.7.3) id TAA22193; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 19:41:10 -0600 (CST) To: "Davis, Robert E" Cc: "'Majordomo-Users@GreatCircle.com'" Subject: Re: 18 out of 19 to sendmail References: <7991403ECD77D111A916080009A54C170BF923@sahp666.sandia.gov> Mime-Version: 1.0 (generated by tm-edit 7.100) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII From: Jason L Tibbitts III Date: 10 Mar 1998 19:41:10 -0600 In-Reply-To: "Davis, Robert E"'s message of Tue, 10 Mar 1998 17:47:33 -0700 Message-ID: Lines: 16 X-Mailer: Gnus v5.4.46/Emacs 19.34 Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk >>>>> "DRE" == Davis, Robert E writes: DRE> We are using Majordomo1.94.3 and sendmail 8.8.7 Perl 5.03. I need help DRE> with what routine parses blocks of users with the same desination to DRE> sendmail. There is no such routine. Sendmail sees only the single file containing all of the recipients. This assumes you aren't using any of the add-ins like TLB or bulk_mailer. DRE> Where might my problem be sendmail, majordomo, resend, wrapper? It must be sendmail, or something else, as none of the other things on your list have anything else to do with this. - J< From majordomo-users-owner Tue Mar 10 18:23:52 1998 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-970926-1) id OAA07664; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 14:39:54 -0800 (PST) Received: from ci1000135-a.grnvle1.sc.home.com ([24.4.120.6]) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-980202-1) with ESMTP id OAA07637 for ; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 14:39:39 -0800 (PST) Received: from home.com ([192.168.1.2]) by ci1000135-a.grnvle1.sc.home.com (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id RAA04715 for ; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 17:39:48 -0500 Message-ID: <3505C11F.73A54E7B@home.com> Date: Tue, 10 Mar 1998 17:39:27 -0500 From: Chris Organization: @Home Network X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.02 [en]C-AtHome0402 (Win95; U) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: MajorDomo Users Subject: List Problems Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk I'm having problems with my list. I sent a test message to the list, and it appears that everyone has recieved the message but me. I have a total of 5 people on my list, and 3 have replied that they have recieved the test message. One of the people who replied is below my address in the lists address file. Any ideas what is going on? I should recieve my own post to the list, right? If you need some other information, let me know. I'll do my best to supply it. Thanks, Chris -- The Cichlid Adventure http://members.home.net/choover/cichlid/ From majordomo-users-owner Tue Mar 10 18:23:53 1998 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-970926-1) id OAA05346; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 14:26:26 -0800 (PST) Received: from ayla.idyllmtn.com (ayla.idyllmtn.com [206.16.238.1]) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-980202-1) with ESMTP id OAA05230 for ; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 14:25:56 -0800 (PST) Received: from grev.idyllmtn.com (grev.idyllmtn.com [206.16.238.108]) by ayla.idyllmtn.com (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id OAA11024; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 14:20:16 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.19980310142714.0095bc30@mail.idyllmtn.com> X-Sender: kynn@mail.idyllmtn.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.5 (32) Date: Tue, 10 Mar 1998 14:27:14 -0800 To: bish@azstarnet.com From: Kynn Bartlett Subject: Re: Unkind Replies Cc: majordomo-users@GreatCircle.COM In-Reply-To: <199803101937.MAA28589@polaris.azstarnet.com> References: <199803100455.UAA06202@mail.thegrid.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk At 12:37 p.m. 03/10/98 +0000, Bob Bish wrote: >Why are list managers not as patient and understanding as Hummer owners? Less is expected of Hummer owners. List owners are expected to be generally proficient with the concepts of list management, FAQs, manuals, documentation, and other essential internet skills. Hummer owners are just expected to own hummers. If someone's too clueless to use _this_ list correctly -- and that includes reading the FAQ first before posting -- than I daresay they're too clueless to be running their _own_ lists. >As >someone already said, if you're going to write a paragraph chastising someone >for asking a "dumb" question, you might as well just answer the question. Give a man a fish, you've fed him for a day; teach him to fish and you've fed him for life. If you ask every dumb question from the FAQ, one at a time, and I patiently answer them, I'm wasting both my time and yours. If I tell you, "read the FAQ" or "read the docs" or "read this list for a few days", then I've not just given you the answer -- I've told you where to find the answer, and hopefully where you can find MORE answers, the NEXT time you have an obvious question. By the way, nobody's ever chastised for dumb questions. They're chastised for not reading the FAQ. This is a no-brainer, and I don't see why you and other people are having such a hard problem with the idea of expecting list owners to read FAQs and doc- umentation. -- _ __ * Owner, Idyll Mountain Internet | / / _ _ ._ _ ._ _ * Web Manager, Claremont Graduate Univ. | \ | | || ' || ' | * Board Member, HTML Writers Guild |_\_\`_. ||_|_||_|_| * Postmaster, MLists.com <___' * Co-Coordinator, Virtual Dog Show kynn@idyllmtn.com * Accessibility rocks: www.idyllmtn.com/~kynn * http://www.w3.org/WAI/ From majordomo-users-owner Tue Mar 10 18:23:55 1998 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-970926-1) id QAA01331; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 16:41:00 -0800 (PST) Received: from sina.hpc.uh.edu (Sina.HPC.UH.EDU [129.7.3.5]) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-980202-1) with ESMTP id QAA01104 for ; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 16:40:12 -0800 (PST) Received: (from tibbs@localhost) by sina.hpc.uh.edu (8.7.3/8.7.3) id SAA21482; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 18:40:40 -0600 (CST) To: "Mark W. Manley" Cc: majordomo-users@GreatCircle.COM Subject: Re: disabling "newconfig" command? References: <199803102213.RAA10467@vivaldi.acc.Virginia.EDU> Mime-Version: 1.0 (generated by tm-edit 7.100) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII From: Jason L Tibbitts III Date: 10 Mar 1998 18:40:40 -0600 In-Reply-To: "Mark W. Manley"'s message of Tue, 10 Mar 1998 17:13:44 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: Lines: 50 X-Mailer: Gnus v5.4.46/Emacs 19.34 Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk >>>>> "MWM" == Mark W Manley writes: MWM> I've figured out how to get Majordomo to not disclose the membership MWM> of the lists by turning off "who" command in the list configuration MWM> files, but to ensure security I need to make sure that that feature MWM> remains disabled. If an unscrupulous student were to find the list MWM> owner password, then we could be liable for disclosing protected MWM> student data. So you never, ever want to allow anyone to ever see who is on a list? How about if an unscrupulous student obtains the root password of the machine and copies the list file? What if they hack in and change the code to turn the command back on? You could argue the point forever. MWM> I would take it upon myself to modify the majordomo source code to MWM> reject any such attempt, but we need to be able to distribute this MWM> code to other educational institutions. I believe that modifying the MWM> code and distributing it would break the site license on the homepage. Well, the license is clear; read part 2, subpart d of the file LICENSE. You can distribute to "clients" with certain restrictions (noting the changes, changing the version string, identifying who is responsible for the modified version). Such versions can not be made public. MWM> Does anyone know how to disable this feature in the current MWM> configuration without modifying the code. Impossible. You can, of course, distribute a patch file (you only have to change one line, plus the help file). You could always ask GreatCircle for an exemption, since they are free to distribute the software under as many different licenses as they wish. MWM> If not, could this feature be added to the next distribution of MWM> majordomo (which would probably need to go to a separate list). Well, the next major release (2.0) is under a different license that permits distribution of modified versions. But such a feature (turning the who command off) even if it were included would be a configuration option, and all configurations are remotely manageable, so you're back to the beginning again. (If anyone has the global password, they can turn the thing back on.) Basically anyone who gets certain passwords will be able to do lots of things. If you're liable for them all, you might as well just burn your computers now. IMHO you're being way too paranoid, but that's up to you. Besides, just turning off who isn't enough; you also need to disable some other functionality. At some point, one wonders why you want a mailing list manager in the first place. - J< From majordomo-users-owner Tue Mar 10 18:32:21 1998 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-970926-1) id SAA20017; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 18:12:32 -0800 (PST) Received: from mermaid.shore.net (mermaid.shore.net [207.244.124.6]) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-980202-1) with SMTP id SAA19992 for ; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 18:12:22 -0800 (PST) Received: from smoe.org [204.167.97.154] (jeffw) by mermaid.shore.net with esmtp (Exim) id 0yCb0g-0005F7-00; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 21:12:47 -0500 Received: (from jeffw@localhost) by smoe.org (8.8.7/8.8.7/daemon-mode-relay2) id VAA22198; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 21:15:06 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <19980310211505.19743@smoe.org> Date: Tue, 10 Mar 1998 21:15:05 -0500 From: Jeff Wasilko To: VPM Enterprises Support Cc: Majordomo-Users@GreatCircle.COM Subject: Re: Majordomo stopped workingent References: <3.0.1.32.19980310171504.00a9d3d0@vpm.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.76 In-Reply-To: <3.0.1.32.19980310171504.00a9d3d0@vpm.com>; from "VPM Enterprises Support" on Tue, Mar 10, 1998 at 05:15:04PM -0800 Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk On Tue, Mar 10, 1998 at 05:15:04PM -0800, VPM Enterprises Support wrote: > Hi > > I upgraded to Perl v5.004 over the weekend. Now that I did, none of my > lists work and sendmail is now returning the error messages below to some, > but not all email accounts. Anyone know what I can do to correct this? > > The OS is FreeBSD v2.2.1 on an Intel Pentium box with Majordomo v1.94.4 and > sendmail is v8.8.6. > > Mar 10 16:53:14 www sendmail[14628]: QAA14628: Losing qfQAA14628: > savemail panic > Mar 10 16:53:14 www sendmail[14628]: QAA14628: SYSERR(root): > savemail: cannot save rejected email anywhere: Permission denied > > I've tried different settings on sendmail to 4755 and 4555 but that didn't > work. > > -rwxr-xr-x 5 root bin 310964 Mar 9 16:16 /usr/sbin/sendmail > drwxr-xr-x 2 root daemon 228352 Mar 10 16:59 /var/spool/mqueue I'm pretty sure that sendmail needs to be setuid root on all platforms: -r-sr-x--x 1 root bin 521092 Feb 11 00:24 /usr/lib/sendmail* Do you get any errors when sendmail starts? What if you run /usr/lib/sendmail -d21.2 -bt Also try running ./wrapper config-test in your majordomo directory. Jeff From majordomo-users-owner Tue Mar 10 19:20:59 1998 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-970926-1) id TAA29790; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 19:05:32 -0800 (PST) Received: from ayla.idyllmtn.com (ayla.idyllmtn.com [206.16.238.1]) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-980202-1) with ESMTP id SAA19725 for ; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 18:10:16 -0800 (PST) Received: from grev.idyllmtn.com (grev.idyllmtn.com [206.16.238.108]) by ayla.idyllmtn.com (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id SAA14447 for ; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 18:04:50 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.19980310181405.009613f0@mail.idyllmtn.com> X-Sender: kynn@mail.idyllmtn.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.5 (32) Date: Tue, 10 Mar 1998 18:14:05 -0800 To: majordomo-users@greatcircle.com From: Kynn Bartlett Subject: FWD: Majordomo results Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk Uhm, I didn't do this. Please, folks, don't forge unzubzcribe requests from me. It's childish and it pisses me off. --Kynn >Date: Tue, 10 Mar 1998 18:03:16 -0800 (PST) >To: kynn@idyllmtn.com >From: Majordomo@GreatCircle.COM >Subject: Majordomo results >Reply-To: Majordomo@GreatCircle.COM > >-- > >>>>> unzubzcribe majordomo-users kynn@idyllmtn.com >Succeeded. >>>>> > > -- _ __ * Owner, Idyll Mountain Internet | / / _ _ ._ _ ._ _ * Web Manager, Claremont Graduate Univ. | \ | | || ' || ' | * Board Member, HTML Writers Guild |_\_\`_. ||_|_||_|_| * Postmaster, MLists.com <___' * Co-Coordinator, Virtual Dog Show kynn@idyllmtn.com * Accessibility rocks: www.idyllmtn.com/~kynn * http://www.w3.org/WAI/ From majordomo-users-owner Tue Mar 10 21:20:42 1998 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-970926-1) id VAA27416; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 21:16:12 -0800 (PST) Received: from polaris.azstarnet.com (polaris.azstarnet.com [169.197.1.7]) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-980202-1) with ESMTP id VAA27339 for ; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 21:15:55 -0800 (PST) Received: from Pbish (dialup01ip096.tus.azstarnet.com [169.197.30.96]) by polaris.azstarnet.com (8.8.5-nerd/8.8.5) with SMTP id WAA01698 for ; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 22:16:20 -0700 (MST) Message-Id: <199803110516.WAA01698@polaris.azstarnet.com> X-Sent-via: StarNet http://www.azstarnet.com/ From: "Bob Bish" Organization: http://www.humvee.com To: majordomo-users@GreatCircle.COM Date: Tue, 10 Mar 1998 22:16:18 +0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Subject: Re: Unkind Replies Reply-to: bish@azstarnet.com In-reply-to: <3.0.5.32.19980310211104.00982100@mail.idyllmtn.com> References: <199803110353.UAA25443@polaris.azstarnet.com> Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk > On your Hummer list, do you have people ask, "how do I > accelerate" or "how do I make the blinker blink if I want > to turn left?" Operating a Hummer is a bit more complicated than that. The manual is a good inch thick. Don't forget, I'm also an experienced majordomo list-owner. To me, it requires a certain degree of patience and understanding. I would think this would apply even more-so on a list of list managers. This is all I have to say on this issue. This list is the last place I'd expect to see flame-wars. ...Bob From majordomo-users-owner Tue Mar 10 21:36:45 1998 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-970926-1) id UAA12792; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 20:09:26 -0800 (PST) Received: from miles.greatcircle.com (miles.greatcircle.com [198.102.244.45]) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-980202-1) with ESMTP id UAA12665 for ; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 20:08:37 -0800 (PST) Received: from dns1.beam.com.au (dns1.beam.com.au [203.14.101.241]) by miles.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id TAA20239 for ; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 19:42:19 -0800 (PST) Received: from gavana.beam.com.au (gavana.beam.com.au [203.14.101.4]) by dns1.beam.com.au (8.8.5/8.8.8) with SMTP id OAA18554 for ; Wed, 11 Mar 1998 14:41:03 +1100 (EST) Message-Id: <199803110341.OAA18554@dns1.beam.com.au> From: "Gavan Anderson" To: "majordomo-users@greatcircle.com" Date: Wed, 11 Mar 98 14:38:29 +1000 Reply-To: "Gavan Anderson" X-Mailer: PMMail 1.92 For OS/2 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk unzubzcribe majordomo-users gavana@beam.com.au Gavan Anderson From majordomo-users-owner Tue Mar 10 23:50:51 1998 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-970926-1) id TAA07306; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 19:36:44 -0800 (PST) Received: from mermaid.shore.net (mermaid.shore.net [207.244.124.6]) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-980202-1) with SMTP id TAA07294; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 19:36:38 -0800 (PST) Received: from smoe.org [204.167.97.154] (jeffw) by mermaid.shore.net with esmtp (Exim) id 0yCcKI-0007D0-00; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 22:37:07 -0500 Received: (from jeffw@localhost) by smoe.org (8.8.7/8.8.7/daemon-mode-relay2) id WAA24272; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 22:39:28 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <19980310223927.57765@smoe.org> Date: Tue, 10 Mar 1998 22:39:27 -0500 From: Jeff Wasilko To: Kynn Bartlett Cc: majordomo-users@GreatCircle.COM, majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Subject: Re: FWD: Majordomo results References: <3.0.5.32.19980310181405.009613f0@mail.idyllmtn.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.76 In-Reply-To: <3.0.5.32.19980310181405.009613f0@mail.idyllmtn.com>; from "Kynn Bartlett" on Tue, Mar 10, 1998 at 06:14:05PM -0800 Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk On Tue, Mar 10, 1998 at 06:14:05PM -0800, Kynn Bartlett wrote: > Uhm, I didn't do this. Please, folks, don't forge unzubzcribe > requests from me. It's childish and it pisses me off. Geez. If this is over the recent 'people are too mean when I ask questions that I ought to be able to easily find the answer for...waah!' thread, then some people need to grow up. If you (the generic you, not Kynn) aren't happy with the way repetitive questions are answered on this list, then I suggest that you step up and start spoon-feeding the masses yourself. Forging an unzub request for someone who contributes to this list (and to majordomo) in a significant way isn't a good way to win friends. Does Greatcircle keep a copy of requests? I suggest that all majordomo owners configure their aliases to keep copies of requests. -Jeff > > >Date: Tue, 10 Mar 1998 18:03:16 -0800 (PST) > >To: kynn@idyllmtn.com > >From: Majordomo@GreatCircle.COM > >Subject: Majordomo results > >Reply-To: Majordomo@GreatCircle.COM > > > >-- > > > >>>>> unzubzcribe majordomo-users kynn@idyllmtn.com > >Succeeded. From majordomo-users-owner Tue Mar 10 23:50:54 1998 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-970926-1) id WAA06647; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 22:15:20 -0800 (PST) Received: from harvest1.harvestcomm.net (ns.harvestcomm.net [206.155.254.170]) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-980202-1) with SMTP id WAA06600 for ; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 22:15:08 -0800 (PST) Received: from enid-7-05.hcom.net (enid-7-05.hcom.net [206.155.255.174]) by harvest1.harvestcomm.net (NTMail 3.03.0014/1d.acfz) with ESMTP id va650125 for ; Wed, 11 Mar 1998 00:15:20 -0600 Message-ID: <35062CBE.2C7C5E72@enid.com> Date: Wed, 11 Mar 1998 00:18:38 -0600 From: Stephen Zepp Organization: Lords of the Shadow ( telnet://shadowlords.nuc.net:8888 ) X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Chris , MD Users List Subject: Re: List Problems References: <3505C11F.73A54E7B@home.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk This sounds as if it's another iteration of the "metoo" concept in sendmail. As default, sendmail doesn't think that you _really_ want to send mail to yourself, even if you tell it to. Since majordomo just addresses the email to each person on the list, including you, sendmail overrides this. The way to fix this should be in the archives ( having dealt with it myself, I asked, and have answered at least three times ), but here's a summary: Edit your sendmail.cf file to turn the option metoo on, I think it's -Ometoo ( that's a letter O ). Then, you need to restart the sendmail daemon, so it will read the .cf parameters again. Another option is to change your alias that activates sendmail to include the -Ometoo option, but I am not familiar with that myself. Z Chris wrote: > > I'm having problems with my list. I sent a test message to the list, > and it appears that everyone has recieved the message but me. I have a > total of 5 people on my list, and 3 have replied that they have recieved > the test message. One of the people who replied is below my address in > the lists address file. > > Any ideas what is going on? I should recieve my own post to the list, > right? > > If you need some other information, let me know. I'll do my best to > supply it. > > Thanks, > > Chris > -- > The Cichlid Adventure > http://members.home.net/choover/cichlid/ From majordomo-users-owner Wed Mar 11 07:27:40 1998 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-970926-1) id GAA01290; Wed, 11 Mar 1998 06:34:29 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail.cis.ohio-state.edu (mail.cis.ohio-state.edu [164.107.8.55]) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-980202-1) with SMTP id GAA01138 for ; Wed, 11 Mar 1998 06:34:00 -0800 (PST) Received: from stumble.cis.ohio-state.edu (stumble.cis.ohio-state.edu [164.107.128.12]) by mail.cis.ohio-state.edu (8.6.7/8.6.4) with ESMTP id JAA10358 for ; Wed, 11 Mar 1998 09:34:17 -0500 Message-Id: <199803111434.JAA10358@mail.cis.ohio-state.edu> To: majordomo-users@GreatCircle.COM Subject: Re: subject field question In-reply-to: Your message of "Tue, 10 Mar 1998 10:26:57 PST." References: X-URL: http://www.cis.ohio-state.edu/~barr/ Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Wed, 11 Mar 1998 09:34:17 -0500 From: Dave Barr Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk In message , C hristopher Adams writes: > A user wants a default phrase, like "Message to test list" to show up in >the subject field, as configured in the list.config and then the subject >entered by the sender to show up at the top of each message. Sounds like >it would take a bit of magic and probably can't be done. Any ideas? Use subject_prefix. If they don't want that, then frankly that's their fault. What you want to do is frankly so ugly and wrong I am getting hives just thinking about it. :-/ --Dave From majordomo-users-owner Wed Mar 11 07:38:14 1998 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-970926-1) id GAA28417; Wed, 11 Mar 1998 06:23:34 -0800 (PST) Received: from mars.mars.unina.it (mars.mars.unina.it [143.225.199.136]) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-980202-1) with SMTP id BAA16921 for ; Wed, 11 Mar 1998 01:42:25 -0800 (PST) Received: from esposito.mars.unina.it by mars.mars.unina.it (5.65v4.0/2.8/15Jan98-1615) id AA03078; Wed, 11 Mar 1998 10:44:06 +0100 Message-Id: <35065DD1.3529@mars.unina.it> Date: Wed, 11 Mar 1998 10:48:08 +0100 From: Esposito Gennaro Reply-To: esposito@mars.unina.it Organization: MARS Center s.c. a r.l. X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.03 (Macintosh; I; PPC) Mime-Version: 1.0 To: Jason L Tibbitts III Cc: MAJORDOMO Subject: Re: disabling "newconfig" command? References: <199803102213.RAA10467@vivaldi.acc.Virginia.EDU> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk Ciao Jason about MD2 and password... You wrote: ........ Basically anyone who gets certain passwords will be able to do lots of things. If you're liable for them all, you might as well just burn your computers now. IMHO you're being way too paranoid, but that's up to you. Besides, just turning off who isn't enough; you also need to disable some other functionality. At some point, one wonders why you want a mailing list manager in the first place. ...... But it is always possible to "encrypt" the password, is'n it? Yes, I know, this could violate some restrinction about exportation laws, but a "simple" algorithm of encryption could be implemented. It is always possible to discover the right one, but it is just a little harder than discover a clear one! Do you agree? Ciao -- ************************** MARS Center ****************************** (Microgravity Advanced Research and Support) Gennaro Esposito Systems & Network Manager Via Comunale Tavernola ph....: +39-81-234 4493 c/o C.A. ALENIA "R. Bonifacio" fax...: +39-81-234 7100 I-80144 - Napoli - ITALY mailto:esposito@mars.unina.it www : http://www.mars.unina.it anon. ftp : ftp://ftp.mars.unina.it ********************************************************************** From majordomo-users-owner Wed Mar 11 07:40:50 1998 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-970926-1) id EAA27247; Wed, 11 Mar 1998 04:39:35 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail.virginia.edu (mail.Virginia.EDU [128.143.2.9]) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-980202-1) with SMTP id EAA26965 for ; Wed, 11 Mar 1998 04:38:40 -0800 (PST) Received: from vivaldi.acc.virginia.edu by mail.virginia.edu id aa03661; 11 Mar 98 7:39 EST Received: (from mwm3q@localhost) by vivaldi.acc.Virginia.EDU (8.8.5/8.6.6) id HAA11419 for majordomo-users@greatcircle.com; Wed, 11 Mar 1998 07:39:08 -0500 (EST) Date: Wed, 11 Mar 1998 07:39:08 -0500 (EST) From: "Mark W. Manley" Message-Id: <199803111239.HAA11419@vivaldi.acc.Virginia.EDU> X-Mailer: Mail User's Shell (7.2.5 10/14/92) To: majordomo-users@greatcircle.com Subject: thanks for the replies Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk I got the answer I needed for my question. Thank you to all those who replied. MM From majordomo-users-owner Wed Mar 11 07:54:34 1998 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-970926-1) id GAA27016; Wed, 11 Mar 1998 06:17:02 -0800 (PST) Received: from gsulaw.gsu.edu ([131.96.87.70]) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-980202-1) with ESMTP id GAA26989 for ; Wed, 11 Mar 1998 06:16:54 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (lawppw@localhost) by gsulaw.gsu.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id JAA18670 for ; Wed, 11 Mar 1998 09:17:22 -0500 Date: Wed, 11 Mar 1998 09:17:22 -0500 (EST) From: Patrick Wiseman To: "majordomo-users@greatcircle.com" Subject: Re: your mail In-Reply-To: <199803110341.OAA18554@dns1.beam.com.au> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk I needed a good laugh this morning. How to avoid administrivia checks and unzubzcribing all in one illustrative lesson :) To leave this list, send a message to majordomo@greatcircle.com reading unzubzcribe majordomo-users except spell it right, substituting "s" for "z". Patrick On Wed, 11 Mar 1998, Gavan Anderson wrote: :unzubzcribe majordomo-users gavana@beam.com.au From majordomo-users-owner Wed Mar 11 07:58:01 1998 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-970926-1) id FAA08407; Wed, 11 Mar 1998 05:15:31 -0800 (PST) Received: from neptune.pegasus.cranfield.ac.uk (neptune.pegasus.cranfield.ac.uk [138.250.1.185]) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-980202-1) with SMTP id FAA08133 for ; Wed, 11 Mar 1998 05:14:41 -0800 (PST) Received: from nassau.pegasus.cranfield.ac.uk [138.250.1.183] by neptune.pegasus.cranfield.ac.uk with smtp (Exim 1.82 #1) id 0yClL0-0007NE-00; Wed, 11 Mar 1998 13:14:26 +0000 Date: Wed, 11 Mar 1998 13:14:20 +0000 (GMT) From: Jeffrey Goldberg X-Sender: cc047@nassau.pegasus.cranfield.ac.uk Reply-To: Jeffrey Goldberg To: "Mark W. Manley" cc: majordomo-users@GreatCircle.COM Subject: Re: disabling "newconfig" command? In-Reply-To: <199803102213.RAA10467@vivaldi.acc.Virginia.EDU> Message-ID: Organization: Cranfield University Computer Centre MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk On Tue, 10 Mar 1998, Mark W. Manley wrote: > Does anyone know how to disable this feature in the current > configuration without modifying the code. How about setting up the .config files with permissions that the majordomo users can't write to? -j -- Jeffrey Goldberg +44 (0)1234 750 111 x 2826 Cranfield Computer Centre FAX 751 814 J.Goldberg@Cranfield.ac.uk http://WWW.Cranfield.ac.uk/public/cc/cc047/ Relativism is the triumph of authority over truth, convention over justice. 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From majordomo-users-owner Wed Mar 11 09:03:34 1998 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-970926-1) id IAA22170; Wed, 11 Mar 1998 08:36:03 -0800 (PST) Received: from vpm.com (spunky.vpm.com [209.60.152.2]) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-980202-1) with ESMTP id IAA22023 for ; Wed, 11 Mar 1998 08:35:11 -0800 (PST) Received: from marks (marks.vpm.com [209.60.152.15]) by vpm.com (8.8.6/8.8.6) with SMTP id IAA03171; Wed, 11 Mar 1998 08:35:41 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <3.0.1.32.19980311083815.01558380@vpm.com> X-Sender: mcs@vpm.com (Unverified) X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.1 (32) Date: Wed, 11 Mar 1998 08:38:15 -0800 To: Majordomo-Users@GreatCircle.COM From: Mark Stout Subject: Re: Majordomo stopped workingent Cc: Jeff Wasilko In-Reply-To: <19980310211505.19743@smoe.org> References: <3.0.1.32.19980310171504.00a9d3d0@vpm.com> <3.0.1.32.19980310171504.00a9d3d0@vpm.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk At 09:15 PM 3/10/98 -0500, you wrote: >On Tue, Mar 10, 1998 at 05:15:04PM -0800, VPM Enterprises Support wrote: >> Hi >> >> I upgraded to Perl v5.004 over the weekend. Now that I did, none of my >> lists work and sendmail is now returning the error messages below to some, >> but not all email accounts. Anyone know what I can do to correct this? >> >> The OS is FreeBSD v2.2.1 on an Intel Pentium box with Majordomo v1.94.4 and >> sendmail is v8.8.6. >> >> Mar 10 16:53:14 www sendmail[14628]: QAA14628: Losing qfQAA14628: >> savemail panic >> Mar 10 16:53:14 www sendmail[14628]: QAA14628: SYSERR(root): >> savemail: cannot save rejected email anywhere: Permission denied >> >> I've tried different settings on sendmail to 4755 and 4555 but that didn't >> work. >> >> -rwxr-xr-x 5 root bin 310964 Mar 9 16:16 /usr/sbin/sendmail >> drwxr-xr-x 2 root daemon 228352 Mar 10 16:59 /var/spool/mqueue > >I'm pretty sure that sendmail needs to be setuid root on all >platforms: > >-r-sr-x--x 1 root bin 521092 Feb 11 00:24 /usr/lib/sendmail* Oay, I reset that back to setuid root. >Do you get any errors when sendmail starts? What if you run >/usr/lib/sendmail -d21.2 -bt No error when sendmail starts. Also, going into test mode does what you'd expect. >Also try running ./wrapper config-test in your majordomo >directory. One of the first things I tried. This came back all OK. I have other customers who are now not able to get their mail as well. I'm stumped at this point! All help is appreciated. Mark ========================================================================== Mark Stout http://www.vpm.com/ VPM Enterprises President mcs@vpm.com (800) 321-0221 Providing Secured Web Hosting and Credit Card Processing ========================================================================== From majordomo-users-owner Wed Mar 11 09:11:11 1998 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-970926-1) id IAA23800; Wed, 11 Mar 1998 08:54:36 -0800 (PST) Received: from vpm.com (spunky.vpm.com [209.60.152.2]) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-980202-1) with ESMTP id IAA23762 for ; Wed, 11 Mar 1998 08:54:02 -0800 (PST) Received: (from root@localhost) by vpm.com (8.8.6/8.8.6) id SAA07817; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 18:55:35 -0800 (PST) From: Mark Stout Message-Id: <199803110255.SAA07817@vpm.com> Subject: Re: Majordomo stopped workingent In-Reply-To: <19980310211505.19743@smoe.org> from Jeff Wasilko at "Mar 10, 98 09:15:05 pm" To: jeffw@smoe.org (Jeff Wasilko) Date: Tue, 10 Mar 1998 18:55:35 -0800 (PST) Cc: Majordomo-Users@GreatCircle.COM X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL31 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk > On Tue, Mar 10, 1998 at 05:15:04PM -0800, VPM Enterprises Support wrote: > > Hi > platforms: > > -r-sr-x--x 1 root bin 521092 Feb 11 00:24 /usr/lib/sendmail* I reset sendmail to setuid root. > Do you get any errors when sendmail starts? What if you run > /usr/lib/sendmail -d21.2 -bt No errors. Aliases expand properly > Also try running ./wrapper config-test in your majordomo > directory. Did this before I sent the email. It reports everything is okay and suggests checking /usr/local/majordomo/majordomo.cf which I do and that's how I configured it originally. BTW: This worked fine last as of last Friday (3/6/98). Mark From majordomo-users-owner Wed Mar 11 09:24:47 1998 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-970926-1) id JAA25383; Wed, 11 Mar 1998 09:09:16 -0800 (PST) Received: from vpm.com (spunky.vpm.com [209.60.152.2]) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-980202-1) with ESMTP id JAA25357 for ; Wed, 11 Mar 1998 09:08:52 -0800 (PST) Received: from marks (marks.vpm.com [209.60.152.15]) by vpm.com (8.8.6/8.8.6) with SMTP id JAA07083; Wed, 11 Mar 1998 09:09:21 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <3.0.1.32.19980311091157.0150eb30@vpm.com> X-Sender: mcs@vpm.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.1 (32) Date: Wed, 11 Mar 1998 09:11:57 -0800 To: Majordomo-Users@GreatCircle.COM From: Mark Stout Subject: Re: Majordomo stopped working Cc: Jeff Wasilko , freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk Hi All: I found the problem noted in this original email. It was the Scheck_compat rules I put in the /etc/sendmail.cf file to block the spammer that was using my mail server as a relay to spam 1000's. The result was my server loads went to over 270/250/190/ on the 1/5/15 minute averages. As a result, the server was basically useless. So now I ask, does anyone have any sendmail rules that will block the sdpammer but allow the aliases to be expanded? I have the Scheck_* rules in the ruleset 98. Maybe that's not a good place for it. Below is my S98 ruleset. I can send the .cf file if someone could take a look at it and see where I may be making an error. Again, any help is definately appreciated as this spammer has been using my server for 4 days now and I can't afford to have the system brought down like this. Thanks, Mark -------------[ Original Email for Reference ]------------------ At 09:15 PM 3/10/98 -0500, you wro te: >On Tue, Mar 10, 1998 at 05:15:04PM -0800, VPM Enterprises Support wrote: >> Hi >> >> I upgraded to Perl v5.004 over the weekend. Now that I did, none of my >> lists work and sendmail is now returning the error messages below to some, >> but not all email accounts. Anyone know what I can do to correct this? >> >> The OS is FreeBSD v2.2.1 on an Intel Pentium box with Majordomo v1.94.4 and >> sendmail is v8.8.6. >> >> Mar 10 16:53:14 www sendmail[14628]: QAA14628: Losing qfQAA14628: >> savemail panic >> Mar 10 16:53:14 www sendmail[14628]: QAA14628: SYSERR(root): >> savemail: cannot save rejected email anywhere: Permission denied >> >> I've tried different settings on sendmail to 4755 and 4555 but that didn't >> work. >> >> -rwxr-xr-x 5 root bin 310964 Mar 9 16:16 /usr/sbin/sendmail >> drwxr-xr-x 2 root daemon 228352 Mar 10 16:59 /var/spool/mqueue > >I'm pretty sure that sendmail needs to be setuid root on all >platforms: > >-r-sr-x--x 1 root bin 521092 Feb 11 00:24 /usr/lib/sendmail* Oay, I reset that back to setuid root. >Do you get any errors when sendmail starts? What if you run >/usr/lib/sendmail -d21.2 -bt No error when sendmail starts. Also, going into test mode does what you'd expect. >Also try running ./wrapper config-test in your majordomo >directory. One of the first things I tried. This came back all OK. I have other customers who are now not able to get their mail as well. I'm stumped at this point! All help is appreciated. Mark ========================================================================== Mark Stout http://www.vpm.com/ VPM Enterprises President mcs@vpm.com (800) 321-0221 Providing Secured Web Hosting and Credit Card Processing ========================================================================== From majordomo-users-owner Wed Mar 11 09:37:20 1998 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-970926-1) id JAA26362; Wed, 11 Mar 1998 09:26:51 -0800 (PST) Received: from mermaid.shore.net (mermaid.shore.net [207.244.124.6]) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-980202-1) with SMTP id JAA26317 for ; Wed, 11 Mar 1998 09:26:11 -0800 (PST) Received: from smoe.org [204.167.97.154] (jeffw) by mermaid.shore.net with esmtp (Exim) id 0yCpGi-0004cq-00; Wed, 11 Mar 1998 12:26:16 -0500 Received: (from jeffw@localhost) by smoe.org (8.8.7/8.8.7/daemon-mode-relay2) id MAA02969; Wed, 11 Mar 1998 12:28:32 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <19980311122831.47228@smoe.org> Date: Wed, 11 Mar 1998 12:28:31 -0500 From: Jeff Wasilko To: Mark Stout Cc: Majordomo-Users@GreatCircle.COM, freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Majordomo stopped working References: <3.0.1.32.19980311091157.0150eb30@vpm.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.76 In-Reply-To: <3.0.1.32.19980311091157.0150eb30@vpm.com>; from "Mark Stout" on Wed, Mar 11, 1998 at 09:11:57AM -0800 Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk On Wed, Mar 11, 1998 at 09:11:57AM -0800, Mark Stout wrote: > Hi All: > > > I found the problem noted in this original email. It was the > Scheck_compat rules I put in the /etc/sendmail.cf file to block > the spammer that was using my mail server as a relay to spam > 1000's. The result was my server loads went to over 270/250/190/ > on the 1/5/15 minute averages. As a result, the server was > basically useless. So now I ask, does anyone have any sendmail > rules that will block the sdpammer but allow the aliases to be > expanded? > > I have the Scheck_* rules in the ruleset 98. Maybe that's not a good place > for it. Below is my S98 ruleset. I can send the .cf file if someone could > take a look at it and see where I may be making an error. I'd recommend that you get the sendmail ruleset hacks from http://www.informatik.uni-kiel.de/~ca/email/check.html I've been using them for quite a while and they don't have any side effects. -Jeff > > Again, any help is definately appreciated as this spammer has been > using my server for 4 days now and I can't afford to have the > system brought down like this. > > Thanks, > Mark > > -------------[ Original Email for Reference ]------------------ > At 09:15 PM 3/10/98 -0500, you wro > te: > >On Tue, Mar 10, 1998 at 05:15:04PM -0800, VPM Enterprises Support wrote: > >> Hi > >> > >> I upgraded to Perl v5.004 over the weekend. Now that I did, none of my > >> lists work and sendmail is now returning the error messages below to some, > >> but not all email accounts. Anyone know what I can do to correct this? > >> > >> The OS is FreeBSD v2.2.1 on an Intel Pentium box with Majordomo v1.94.4 and > >> sendmail is v8.8.6. > >> > >> Mar 10 16:53:14 www sendmail[14628]: QAA14628: Losing qfQAA14628: > >> savemail panic > >> Mar 10 16:53:14 www sendmail[14628]: QAA14628: SYSERR(root): > >> savemail: cannot save rejected email anywhere: Permission denied > >> > >> I've tried different settings on sendmail to 4755 and 4555 but that didn't > >> work. > >> > >> -rwxr-xr-x 5 root bin 310964 Mar 9 16:16 /usr/sbin/sendmail > >> drwxr-xr-x 2 root daemon 228352 Mar 10 16:59 /var/spool/mqueue > > > >I'm pretty sure that sendmail needs to be setuid root on all > >platforms: > > > >-r-sr-x--x 1 root bin 521092 Feb 11 00:24 /usr/lib/sendmail* > > Oay, I reset that back to setuid root. > > >Do you get any errors when sendmail starts? What if you run > >/usr/lib/sendmail -d21.2 -bt > > No error when sendmail starts. Also, going into test mode does what you'd > expect. > > >Also try running ./wrapper config-test in your majordomo > >directory. > > One of the first things I tried. This came back all OK. > > I have other customers who are now not able to get their mail as well. > > I'm stumped at this point! All help is appreciated. > > Mark > > ========================================================================== > Mark Stout http://www.vpm.com/ VPM Enterprises > President mcs@vpm.com (800) 321-0221 > Providing Secured Web Hosting and Credit Card Processing > ========================================================================== > From majordomo-users-owner Wed Mar 11 12:54:31 1998 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-970926-1) id JAA29858; Wed, 11 Mar 1998 09:53:58 -0800 (PST) Received: from enterprise (enterprise.america.com [206.125.236.12]) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-980202-1) with SMTP id JAA29801 for ; Wed, 11 Mar 1998 09:53:42 -0800 (PST) Received: by enterprise via sendmail with stdio id for majordomo-users@greatcircle.com; Wed, 11 Mar 1998 12:53:53 -0500 (EST) (Smail-3.2.0.94 1997-Apr-22 #2 built 1997-May-2) Message-ID: <19980311125351.06004@enterprise.america.com> Date: Wed, 11 Mar 1998 12:53:51 -0500 From: Le chaud-lapin To: majordomo-users@greatcircle.com Subject: Newbies/An idea... Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.76 Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk I have been reading the recent thread (well, ok, it's been going on for a while) about newbies and people who refuse to read the documentation. And I thought of something that may help... In the distribution, instead of putting in the pointers to this list, put a pointer to a list that simply emails the FAQ to the person, maybe every other day for a week. :) Seriously, though, this might work. You put the pointers to the list somewhere in the FAQ, like towards the very end, but not right at the very end as that might make it to easy. This may help reduce the amount of "repeat" questions on the list. Also, put a pointer to the archives web page *before* the pointer to this list. And just say it is a searchable site for more info. Just a couple ideas... Your thoughts? Ciao! Shane -- Shane Ludwig thierry@america.com ************************************************************************** * Nous vivons eternellement, non dans les ecoles de pointilleurs de * * syllabes, mais dans le cercle des sages, ou l'on ne discute pas * * sur la mere d'Andromaque ou les fils de Niobe, mais ou l'on * * s'entretient des origines profondes des choses divines et humaines * * -Anonyme * ************************************************************************** From majordomo-users-owner Wed Mar 11 14:27:53 1998 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-970926-1) id NAA15016; Wed, 11 Mar 1998 13:07:46 -0800 (PST) Received: from miles.greatcircle.com (miles.greatcircle.com [198.102.244.45]) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-980202-1) with ESMTP id MAA28201 for ; Wed, 11 Mar 1998 12:12:13 -0800 (PST) Received: from eis-msg-014.jpl.nasa.gov (eis-msg-014.jpl.nasa.gov [137.78.18.40]) by miles.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA08655 for ; Wed, 11 Mar 1998 11:21:24 -0800 (PST) Received: from [137.78.144.194] (lemond.jpl.nasa.gov [137.78.144.194]) by eis-msg-014.jpl.nasa.gov (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA22224 for ; Wed, 11 Mar 1998 11:22:01 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <19943672.886214@relay.comanche.denmark.eu> Wednesday, March 11th, 1998 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Wed, 11 Mar 1998 11:24:47 -0800 To: majordomo-users@greatcircle.com From: Kyle Subject: Re: Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk >EMAIL MARKETING WORKS!! I've contacted this company and told them to stop spamming this list. They said they use a web crawler to collect e-mail addresses and said they will fix it so they no longer send to this list nor will it be picked up again. Let's see if they lie. Kyle kyle@mgsw3.jpl.nasa.gov From majordomo-users-owner Wed Mar 11 14:51:30 1998 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-970926-1) id OAA07307; Wed, 11 Mar 1998 14:29:15 -0800 (PST) Received: from amc.com (amc1-gw.amc.com [205.187.226.100]) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-980202-1) with SMTP id OAA07291 for ; Wed, 11 Mar 1998 14:29:09 -0800 (PST) Received: from borg.amc.com by amc.com (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AB27538; Wed, 11 Mar 98 14:28:03 PST Received: from amc.com by borg.amc.com (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id OAA25964; Wed, 11 Mar 1998 14:28:02 -0800 Message-Id: <35070E94.ECF79C3B@amc.com> Date: Wed, 11 Mar 1998 14:22:12 -0800 From: Judd Boone Organization: Applied Microsystems X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.03 [en] (WinNT; I) Mime-Version: 1.0 To: Majordomo-Users@GreatCircle.COM Subject: shlock.pl killing me! Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk Hello. I'm having trouble with the shlock.pl This is the messages I'm getting back. It the Log file I've recieved a ton of these: Mar 11 13:49:22 amc.com majordomo[29176] {postmaster@idea.com} help So, how come majordomo is not aborting? Also, what does shlock do anyway? This the series of messages I get back. shlock: open('/a1/majordomo-1.94.1/L.Log'): No such file or directory shlock: unlink('/a1/majordomo-1.94.1/L.Log'): No such file or directory shlock failed: write('/a1/majordomo-1.94.1/shlock.23529', '23529'): Bad file number shlock: unlink('/a1/majordomo-1.94.1/shlock.23529'): No such file or directory So, I mkdir'd a L.Log file. Will that cure my problem? Thanks Judd From majordomo-users-owner Wed Mar 11 15:00:25 1998 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-970926-1) id OAA01860; Wed, 11 Mar 1998 14:10:27 -0800 (PST) Received: from vpm.com (spunky.vpm.com [209.60.152.2]) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-980202-1) with ESMTP id JAA29914 for ; Wed, 11 Mar 1998 09:54:11 -0800 (PST) Received: (from root@localhost) by vpm.com (8.8.6/8.8.6) id JAA12313; Wed, 11 Mar 1998 09:54:47 -0800 (PST) From: Mark Stout Message-Id: <199803111754.JAA12313@vpm.com> Subject: Re: Majordomo stopped working In-Reply-To: <19980311122831.47228@smoe.org> from Jeff Wasilko at "Mar 11, 98 12:28:31 pm" To: jeffw@smoe.org (Jeff Wasilko) Date: Wed, 11 Mar 1998 09:54:45 -0800 (PST) Cc: Majordomo-Users@GreatCircle.COM X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL31 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk > On Wed, Mar 11, 1998 at 09:11:57AM -0800, Mark Stout wrote: > > I have the Scheck_* rules in the ruleset 98. Maybe that's not a good place > > for it. Below is my S98 ruleset. I can send the .cf file if someone could > > take a look at it and see where I may be making an error. > > I'd recommend that you get the sendmail ruleset hacks from > http://www.informatik.uni-kiel.de/~ca/email/check.html > > I've been using them for quite a while and they don't have any > side effects. > I am using those hacks you mentioned. The check_compat is what gave me the problem. As soon as I commented it out, everything started working again. In the S98 ruleset I have all the Scheck_* hacks. The check_compat noted below, is what caused my problem. I copied it verbatim and it works, but nothing else does. So, what else would cause the following hack to work but prevent regular email from being sent. #Scheck_compat #R$+ $| $+ $: $2 $| $>3 $1 canonicalize sender #R$+ $| $+ $: $2 $| $>3 $1 canonicalize recipient #R$- $| $+ $@ok from here #R$+ $| $- $@ok to here #R$+<@$=w.> $| $+ $@ok from here #R$+ $| $+<@$=w.> $@ok to here #R$* $#error $@ 5.7.1 $: "550 we do not support relaying" Mark From majordomo-users-owner Wed Mar 11 15:06:46 1998 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-970926-1) id NAA24750; Wed, 11 Mar 1998 13:38:02 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail.provide.net (mail.provide.net [207.206.116.34]) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-980202-1) with ESMTP id NAA24679 for ; Wed, 11 Mar 1998 13:37:42 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (rjwitte@localhost) by mail.provide.net (8.8.7/8.8.5) with SMTP id QAA03465; Wed, 11 Mar 1998 16:38:14 -0500 (EST) X-Authentication-Warning: mail.provide.net: rjwitte owned process doing -bs Date: Wed, 11 Mar 1998 16:38:13 -0500 (EST) From: Russ Witte X-Sender: rjwitte@mail.provide.net To: Le chaud-lapin cc: majordomo-users@GreatCircle.COM Subject: Re: Newbies/An idea... In-Reply-To: <19980311125351.06004@enterprise.america.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk Now there's the most helpful suggestion I've heard... ! Give the least preferred option last! Simple, yet elegant. On Wed, 11 Mar 1998, Le chaud-lapin wrote: > I have been reading the recent thread (well, ok, it's been going on for a > while) about newbies and people who refuse to read the documentation. > > And I thought of something that may help... In the distribution, instead of > putting in the pointers to this list, put a pointer to a list that simply > emails the FAQ to the person, maybe every other day for a week. :) > Seriously, though, this might work. You put the pointers to the list > somewhere in the FAQ, like towards the very end, but not right at the very > end as that might make it to easy. This may help reduce the amount of > "repeat" questions on the list. Also, put a pointer to the archives web > page *before* the pointer to this list. And just say it is a searchable > site for more info. > > Just a couple ideas... Your thoughts? > > Ciao! > Shane > -- > Shane Ludwig thierry@america.com > ************************************************************************** > * Nous vivons eternellement, non dans les ecoles de pointilleurs de * > * syllabes, mais dans le cercle des sages, ou l'on ne discute pas * > * sur la mere d'Andromaque ou les fils de Niobe, mais ou l'on * > * s'entretient des origines profondes des choses divines et humaines * > * -Anonyme * > ************************************************************************** > From majordomo-users-owner Wed Mar 11 15:20:54 1998 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-970926-1) id NAA23462; Wed, 11 Mar 1998 13:33:39 -0800 (PST) Received: from backup.nashbar.com ([12.4.177.8]) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-980202-1) with ESMTP id NAA23219 for ; Wed, 11 Mar 1998 13:32:51 -0800 (PST) Received: from sl.nashbar.com ([12.4.177.70]) by backup.nashbar.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id LAA22125 for ; Wed, 11 Mar 1998 11:38:03 -0500 Received: by localhost with Microsoft MAPI; Wed, 11 Mar 1998 16:34:13 -0500 Message-ID: <01BD4D0B.86D92A40.sl@nashbar.com> From: Stephen Labedz To: "'majordomo-users@greatcircle.com'" Subject: Problems with Install? Date: Wed, 11 Mar 1998 16:34:12 -0500 Organization: Nashbar & Associates X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet E-mail/MAPI - 8.0.0.4211 Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk I am trying to run majordomo on a Linux Server with Sendmail 8.1 It seems to have installed correctly, and when I use wrapper it doesn't show any errors. Whenever I try and run it I get this message: Can't locate majordomo_version.pl in @INC at ./majordomo line 63. The file is located in the proper directory, it doesn't recognize it. I would love some suggestions. Thanks in advance, Steve Labedz From majordomo-users-owner Wed Mar 11 15:52:03 1998 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-970926-1) id PAA16976; Wed, 11 Mar 1998 15:31:15 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail.sdsu.edu (mail.sdsu.edu [130.191.25.1]) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-980202-1) with ESMTP id PAA16829 for ; Wed, 11 Mar 1998 15:30:42 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail.sdsu.edu ([130.191.38.237]) by mail.sdsu.edu (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id PAA02068 for ; Wed, 11 Mar 1998 15:31:17 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <35071F7D.931FFDB2@mail.sdsu.edu> Date: Wed, 11 Mar 1998 15:34:21 -0800 From: Laurel Wallerstedt X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.03 [en] (WinNT; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Majordomo-Users@GreatCircle.COM Subject: Moderated/Unmoderated & Open/Closed? Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="------------FD976C50840A943147480D00" Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk --------------FD976C50840A943147480D00 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi, I can't find a definition for these options. Can you please explain! Thanks, -- Laurel Wallerstedt Project LEAP SDSU - Project Manager Administration Building, Rm 110A (619) 594-0532 --------------FD976C50840A943147480D00 Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi,

I can't find a definition for these options.  Can you please explain!

Thanks,

--
Laurel Wallerstedt
Project LEAP
SDSU - Project Manager
Administration Building, Rm 110A
(619) 594-0532
  --------------FD976C50840A943147480D00-- From majordomo-users-owner Thu Mar 12 06:22:16 1998 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-970926-1) id FAA28049; Thu, 12 Mar 1998 05:31:46 -0800 (PST) Received: from mars.dgrc.doc.ca (mars.dgrc.doc.ca [142.92.95.100]) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-980202-1) with SMTP id FAA28015 for ; Thu, 12 Mar 1998 05:31:36 -0800 (PST) Received: from bo.dgrc.doc.ca by mars.dgrc.doc.ca (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA01189; Thu, 12 Mar 98 08:32:20 EST Received: by bo.dgrc.doc.ca (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id IAA01845; Thu, 12 Mar 1998 08:32:19 -0500 Date: Thu, 12 Mar 1998 08:32:19 -0500 From: don@mars.dgrc.doc.ca (Donald McLachlan) Message-Id: <199803121332.IAA01845@bo.dgrc.doc.ca> To: majordomo-users@GreatCircle.COM Subject: digest_maxdays X-Sun-Charset: US-ASCII Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk Hello, I'm a newbie. I've read the docs. I've read the FAQ. So can I ask a question? ;-) I've been using majordomo to run a mailing list for a while. Now I'm trying to get a digest running. Seems as though the messages are being put into the digest directory OK. Although I have not yet reached the "maxlength" specified in the config file, I have exceeded the "digest_maxdays" which I have set to 1 and no digest has been sent yet. Before I send reams of info (config files and aliases) I thought I'd check if anyone has successfully used this option (eg. is it implemented). I'd prefer not to use a crontab entry if I don't have to. It would be nice to keep all of the mailing list stuff located in the config file. FYI, I am running 1.94.4 on SunOS XXXXXX 4.1.4 1 sun4m using Sendmail 4.1/SMI-4.1. Thanks, Don From majordomo-users-owner Thu Mar 12 10:54:25 1998 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-970926-1) id KAA10979; Thu, 12 Mar 1998 10:51:04 -0800 (PST) Received: from mars.dgrc.doc.ca (mars.dgrc.doc.ca [142.92.95.100]) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-980202-1) with SMTP id KAA10936 for ; Thu, 12 Mar 1998 10:50:42 -0800 (PST) Received: from bo.dgrc.doc.ca by mars.dgrc.doc.ca (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA05525; Thu, 12 Mar 98 13:51:16 EST Received: by bo.dgrc.doc.ca (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id NAA01893; Thu, 12 Mar 1998 13:51:15 -0500 Date: Thu, 12 Mar 1998 13:51:15 -0500 From: don@mars.dgrc.doc.ca (Donald McLachlan) Message-Id: <199803121851.NAA01893@bo.dgrc.doc.ca> To: majordomo-users@GreatCircle.COM, boutilpj@ednet.ns.ca Subject: Re: digest_maxdays X-Sun-Charset: US-ASCII Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk > From boutilpj@ednet.ns.ca Thu Mar 12 09:47:01 1998 > > The digest won't go out until another message is sent to the list so that > the oldest message in the digest directory is 1 day older than the newest > message sent. Try sending another message. > > Also make sure you are using the -r option instead of the -R option in your > alias which contains the digest command. The -R option causes the digest not > to be sent out regardless of what the config files say. Hi Patrick, thanks for the quick reply. Messages have been piling up in the digest directory for 3 days now so I don't think sending another message is the answer. my "digestify" alias has the digest command with the options: -r -C -l digest-listname outgoing listname So I guess that is OK. The only thing I see which might be a mistake is I have added the "digestify" alias to the "non-digest-list-incoming" alias rather than to the "non-digest-list-outgoing" alias. ... it seems to be working. Anyone know where I should go from here? Don From majordomo-users-owner Thu Mar 12 11:04:55 1998 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-970926-1) id KAA10675; Thu, 12 Mar 1998 10:48:48 -0800 (PST) Received: from mx0.rmplc.co.uk (hawk.rmplc.co.uk [194.238.48.14]) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-980202-1) with ESMTP id HAA19692 for ; Thu, 12 Mar 1998 07:04:23 -0800 (PST) Received: from felsted.rmplc.co.uk ([194.238.175.254]) by mx0.rmplc.co.uk (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id PAA25174 for ; Thu, 12 Mar 1998 15:05:01 GMT Received: from localhost (pgs@localhost) by felsted.rmplc.co.uk (8.8.7/8.8.5) with SMTP id OAA02898 for ; Thu, 12 Mar 1998 14:58:23 GMT Date: Thu, 12 Mar 1998 14:58:23 +0000 (GMT) From: Paul Statter To: majordomo-users@greatcircle.com Subject: Using "appr0ve" Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk Hello - I need some help. I've read the manuals, the FAQs, the comments in the appr0ve script, but I still don't seem to be getting what I'm expecting. In the FAQ 3.10 it says # Any mail which is not "appr0ved", gets b0unced with "Appr0val required". # ...you need to tag the message as "appr0ved" and send it to the list. # The "appr0ve" script ... does this for you. When sending a message to a moderated list, the message gets B0UNCEd to me (the list-owner) as described, BUT the appr0ve script does not appear to be doing anything for me. I have successfully done it by hand as descibed in FAQ 3.10 We have the appr0ve script installed and it seems to work OK when appr0ving subscriptions to a closed list. Am I missing something? Your help would be appreciated. Thank you. Majordomo 1.94.4 FreeBSD 2.2.5 Perl 5.004 Sendmail 8.8.5/8.8.7 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Paul Statter, Windy Ridge, Dunmow Road, North End, Dunmow, Essex. CM6 3PJ. (Home) 01245 237456; (Mobile) 0973 797113; (Work) 01371 820080/820258 (Work address) Felsted School, Felsted, Dunmow, Essex. CM6 3JG. e-mail (current) pgs@felsted.rmplc.co.uk (new) pgs@felsted.essex.sch.uk From majordomo-users-owner Thu Mar 12 11:07:31 1998 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-970926-1) id KAA10747; Thu, 12 Mar 1998 10:49:16 -0800 (PST) Received: from Trademart-1.EDnet.NS.CA (Trademart-1.EDnet.NS.CA [142.227.51.1]) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-980202-1) with SMTP id GAA15493 for ; Thu, 12 Mar 1998 06:46:19 -0800 (PST) Received: from uucp by Trademart-1.EDnet.NS.CA with local (Exim 1.82 #3) id 0yD9Gw-000IRc-00; Thu, 12 Mar 1998 10:47:50 -0400 Received: from Bart.EDnet.NS.CA(142.227.51.200) via SMTP by Trademart-1.EDnet.NS.CA, id smtpdsUp7Ea; Thu Mar 12 10:47:32 1998 Message-ID: <00ab01bd4dc5$a89b7ba0$c833e38e@bart.ednet.ns.ca> From: "Patrick Boutilier" To: "Donald McLachlan" , Subject: Re: digest_maxdays Date: Thu, 12 Mar 1998 10:46:35 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.2106.4 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk The digest won't go out until another message is sent to the list so that the oldest message in the digest directory is 1 day older than the newest message sent. Try sending another message. Also make sure you are using the -r option instead of the -R option in your alias which contains the digest command. The -R option causes the digest not to be sent out regardless of what the config files say. -----Original Message----- From: Donald McLachlan To: majordomo-users@GreatCircle.COM Date: Thursday, March 12, 1998 10:38 AM Subject: digest_maxdays > > >Hello, I'm a newbie. I've read the docs. I've read the FAQ. So can >I ask a question? ;-) > >I've been using majordomo to run a mailing list for a while. Now I'm >trying to get a digest running. Seems as though the messages are being >put into the digest directory OK. Although I have not yet reached the >"maxlength" specified in the config file, I have exceeded the >"digest_maxdays" which I have set to 1 and no digest has been sent yet. > >Before I send reams of info (config files and aliases) I thought I'd check >if anyone has successfully used this option (eg. is it implemented). >I'd prefer not to use a crontab entry if I don't have to. It would be >nice to keep all of the mailing list stuff located in the config file. > >FYI, I am running 1.94.4 on SunOS XXXXXX 4.1.4 1 sun4m using >Sendmail 4.1/SMI-4.1. > >Thanks, >Don > From majordomo-users-owner Thu Mar 12 14:29:42 1998 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-970926-1) id LAA20028; Thu, 12 Mar 1998 11:41:48 -0800 (PST) Received: from marine.sonic.net (marine.sonic.net [208.201.224.37]) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-980202-1) with SMTP id LAA19857 for ; Thu, 12 Mar 1998 11:40:51 -0800 (PST) Received: (qmail 20159 invoked from network); 12 Mar 1998 19:43:12 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO sub.sonic.net) (root@208.201.224.8) by marine.sonic.net with SMTP; 12 Mar 1998 19:43:12 -0000 Received: from sonic.net (d71.nas16.sonic.net [208.201.231.71]) by sub.sonic.net (8.8.8/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA11231; Thu, 12 Mar 1998 11:41:19 -0800 X-envelope-info: Message-ID: <350839CA.1ECA6566@sonic.net> Date: Thu, 12 Mar 1998 11:38:51 -0800 From: Layne Russell Organization: Socopoets, White Owl Publishing X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Patrick Boutilier CC: Donald McLachlan , majordomo-users@GreatCircle.COM Subject: Re: digest_maxdays References: <00ab01bd4dc5$a89b7ba0$c833e38e@bart.ednet.ns.ca> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk Patrick Boutilier wrote: > The digest won't go out until another message is sent to the list so that > the oldest message in the digest directory is 1 day older than the newest > message sent. Patrick, So that's how it's done. I'm a list-owner and recently set my digest to 1 day, and it's working great...but was wondering exactly how it worked. Thanks for this bit of information! Layne list-mistress Socopoet From majordomo-users-owner Thu Mar 12 14:56:22 1998 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-970926-1) id OAA19926; Thu, 12 Mar 1998 14:02:20 -0800 (PST) Received: from mailhub.iastate.edu (mailhub.iastate.edu [129.186.1.102]) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-980202-1) with ESMTP id OAA19798 for ; Thu, 12 Mar 1998 14:01:50 -0800 (PST) Received: from webadmin.iastate.edu (pc22313.educ.iastate.edu [129.186.223.13]) by mailhub.iastate.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id QAA20674 for ; Thu, 12 Mar 1998 16:02:36 -0600 (CST) Message-Id: <3.0.3.32.19980312160325.0069d80c@pop-3.iastate.edu> X-Sender: ebloomca@pop-3.iastate.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.3 (32) Date: Thu, 12 Mar 1998 16:03:25 -0600 To: majordomo-users@greatcircle.com From: "Eric M. Bloomcamp" Subject: posting to list Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk I having a problem with letting someone send mail to one of my lists. I have given the person access to send mail to the list by including their address in the restrict field in the list's config file. The person still can not send mail to the list. However, the person is on a totally different server over in Washington and it has a totally different domain. When the person before me was managing our majordomo, if he made it so only people on certain machines with certain domain names could send mail to the list, where would he have done that at? Thank you Eric Bloomcamp From majordomo-users-owner Thu Mar 12 18:52:35 1998 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-970926-1) id SAA09038; Thu, 12 Mar 1998 18:28:50 -0800 (PST) Received: from calypso.ci.uc.pt (calypso.ci.uc.pt [193.136.200.154]) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-980202-1) with ESMTP id SAA08998 for ; Thu, 12 Mar 1998 18:28:38 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (uhg@localhost) by calypso.ci.uc.pt (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id CAA08213 for ; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 02:30:14 GMT Date: Fri, 13 Mar 1998 02:30:14 +0000 (WET) From: Hugo Miguel Gomes Santos Costa X-Sender: uhg@calypso To: majordomo-users@greatcircle.com Subject: majordomo question In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk Hi, I am a starting Linux admin, and i am configuring majordomo. Is it possibel to configure a list in majordomo so that when a person send a message to the list, the majordomo don't send the msg back to the one that sent the msg? I think i am not in majordomo-users@greatcircle.com list, how can i subscribe? Please answer to my email: uhg@calypso.ci.uc.pt Thanks in advance, Hugo Costa uhg@calypso.ci.uc.pt From majordomo-users-owner Thu Mar 12 20:53:05 1998 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-970926-1) id UAA10262; Thu, 12 Mar 1998 20:39:55 -0800 (PST) Received: from plains.NoDak.edu (plains.NoDak.edu [134.129.111.64]) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-980202-1) with ESMTP id UAA10110 for ; Thu, 12 Mar 1998 20:39:25 -0800 (PST) Received: from plains.nodak.edu (current@und-as2p19.und.NoDak.edu [134.129.135.70]) by plains.NoDak.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id WAA02171; Thu, 12 Mar 1998 22:39:42 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <3508BD03.87DC5923@plains.nodak.edu> Date: Thu, 12 Mar 1998 22:58:43 -0600 From: Robert Current X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (WinNT; U) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: majordomo-users@greatcircle.com, Stephen Labedz Subject: Gotta fix your path Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk I fixed your problem by doing ln -s /usr/bin/perl /usr/perl It looks for perl in the wrong place. Subject: Problems with Install? From: Stephen Labedz Organization: Nashbar & Associates Date: Wed, 11 Mar 1998 16:34:12 -0500 To: "'majordomo-users@greatcircle.com'" I am trying to run majordomo on a Linux Server with Sendmail 8.1 It seems to have installed correctly, and when I use wrapper it doesn't show any errors. Whenever I try and run it I get this message: Can't locate majordomo_version.pl in @INC at ./majordomo line 63. The file is located in the proper directory, it doesn't recognize it. I would love some suggestions. Thanks in advance, Steve Labedz From majordomo-users-owner Thu Mar 12 22:26:44 1998 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-970926-1) id WAA07829; Thu, 12 Mar 1998 22:08:37 -0800 (PST) Received: from designer.snu.ac.kr (designer.snu.ac.kr [147.46.120.90]) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-980202-1) with ESMTP id WAA07577 for ; Thu, 12 Mar 1998 22:07:51 -0800 (PST) Received: (from logout@localhost) by designer.snu.ac.kr (8.8.8/8.8.8) id PAA00938 for majordomo-users@greatcircle.com; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 15:09:31 +0900 Date: Fri, 13 Mar 1998 15:09:31 +0900 From: Sohn Jung-woo Message-Id: <199803130609.PAA00938@designer.snu.ac.kr> To: majordomo-users@greatcircle.com Subject: What on earth is digest? --; Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk hello. I am relly sorry to ask this kind of stupid(?) question, but what is `digest' and what can I do with it? I installed majordomo on this Linux server and it seems to work fine. I noticed that majordomo automatically transfer the `each' piece of e-mail letter to the digest directory, naming the files as 001, 002, 003, and so on. This is a really nice feature, but I wonder what can I do with it? And I would like to know what `benefits' users of majordomo list get from digest feature. Thank you in advance. Well, there was no introduction on digest in FAQ. :) -- logout@designer.snu.ac.kr Aerospace eng. dept. Seoul National university, South korea From majordomo-users-owner Thu Mar 12 22:37:18 1998 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-970926-1) id UAA09139; Thu, 12 Mar 1998 20:35:41 -0800 (PST) Received: from plains.NoDak.edu (plains.NoDak.edu [134.129.111.64]) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-980202-1) with ESMTP id UAA09101 for ; Thu, 12 Mar 1998 20:35:27 -0800 (PST) Received: from plains.nodak.edu (current@und-as2p19.und.NoDak.edu [134.129.135.70]) by plains.NoDak.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id WAA03759 for ; Thu, 12 Mar 1998 22:36:08 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <3508BC2E.8604399@plains.nodak.edu> Date: Thu, 12 Mar 1998 22:55:10 -0600 From: Robert Current X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (WinNT; U) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Majordomo-Users@GreatCircle.COM Subject: I need help, can't get it configured. Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk Hi, I just subscribed to this list, haven't got confirmation yet. Hope I get a responce :) But, incase I don't, could you email a cc of the responce to current@plains.nodak.edu and I will try to keep checking archives too.. :) I am using a LINUX .rpm of majordomo I downloaded, I installed it, and had to make some minor adjustments (ln -s /usr/bin/perl /bin/perl) edited the .cf file in /etc and then tried to run it, and got an error. Well, I then read more and see I should have done the: me@myhost.com# ./wrapper config-test first, so I tried that. I am using majordomo version 1.94.1 with perl version 5.004_03, on a Intel x86 system, with LINUX (Red Hat 4.2, with numerous patches) kernel version 2.0.33, and sendmail version 8.29 (I think, sendmail -v or --version don't work, if you need to know wave version to help me, tell me how to get the version info, and I will post it). When I run wrapper config-test I get: me@myhost.com# ./wrapper config-test ------------------------------------------------------------ ---------------- Config-test for Majordomo ---------------- ------------------------------------------------------------ --------------------- Obvious things: --------------------- ------------------ environment variables ------------------ HOME=/usr/lib/majordomo LOGNAME=current MAJORDOMO_CF=/etc/majordomo.cf PATH=/usr/local/bin:/usr/bin:/bin SHELL=/bin/sh USER=current --------------------- euid/egid checks --------------------- effective user = current (uid 500) effective group = current current users (gid 500 500 100 ) ---------------------- uid/gid checks ---------------------- real user = current (uid 500) real group = current current users (gid 500 500 100 ) ------------------------------------------------------------ Non obvious things that cause headaches: ------------------------------------------------------------ Good: 'require'd /etc/majordomo.cf okay. Good: found ctime.pl okay. Good: found majordomo_version.pl okay. /(^|([^\\"]|\\.)+)"([^\\"]|\\.|$)*"?/: regexp *+ operand could be empty at major domo.pl line 519. What do I do? What happened? What's wrong? Rob current@plains.nodak.edu http://cgsa.chem.und.nodak.edu/~current/ From majordomo-users-owner Fri Mar 13 06:00:57 1998 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-970926-1) id FAA13825; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 05:50:45 -0800 (PST) Received: from calypso.ci.uc.pt (calypso.ci.uc.pt [193.136.200.154]) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-980202-1) with ESMTP id FAA13744 for ; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 05:50:26 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (uhg@localhost) by calypso.ci.uc.pt (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id NAA10944 for ; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 13:52:24 GMT Date: Fri, 13 Mar 1998 13:52:24 +0000 (WET) From: Hugo Miguel Gomes Santos Costa X-Sender: uhg@calypso To: majordomo-users@greatcircle.com Subject: majordomo question Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk Hi, I am a starting Linux admin, and i am configuring majordomo. Is it possibel configure a list in majordomo so that when a person send a message to the list, the majordomo don't send the msg back to the one that sent the msg? UhG uhg@calypso.ci.uc.pt From majordomo-users-owner Fri Mar 13 06:22:31 1998 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-970926-1) id FAA14019; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 05:51:46 -0800 (PST) Received: from prefetch.san.rr.com (ns1.san.rr.com [204.210.0.2]) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-980202-1) with ESMTP id FAA13998 for ; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 05:51:39 -0800 (PST) Received: from disastercomm.san.rr.com (dt0b0naf.san.rr.com [204.210.50.175]) by prefetch.san.rr.com (8.8.7/8.8.8) with ESMTP id FAA25894; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 05:52:29 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <199803131352.FAA25894@prefetch.san.rr.com> Reply-To: From: "John Mulhollen" To: "Joseph Scanlan" , "Bruce Campbell" Cc: "majordomo-users" Subject: Re: What in the world is RTFM? Date: Wed, 11 Mar 1998 20:28:46 -0800 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet Mail 4.70.1161 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk no...RTFM is Read the FINE manual ---------- : From: Joseph Scanlan : To: Bruce Campbell : Cc: majordomo-users : Subject: Re: What in the world is RTFM? : Date: Tuesday, March 10, 1998 2:13 PM : : On Tue, 10 Mar 1998, Bruce Campbell wrote: : : > RTFM quite plainly means: : > : > Read The Manual. : : Someone in tech. support once told me RTFM stood for Read : The Friendly Manual. Uh, huh. ;-) : : ------------- My opinions are mine alone, and that fact ------------- : ------------- provides intense relief for my coworkers. ------------- : Joe Scanlan N7XSD Clark County, Nevada : Systems Programmer Informations Systems : jps@accessnv.com (not work) PO Box 551761 : jps@co.clark.nv.us (work) Las Vegas, NV 89155-1761 : 702 455-4932 (FAX) USA : --------------------- http://www.co.clark.nv.us --------------------- : ------------------- http://coyote.accessnv.com/jps ------------------ : From majordomo-users-owner Fri Mar 13 06:54:01 1998 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-970926-1) id GAA20311; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 06:29:57 -0800 (PST) Received: from hub.org (hub.org [209.47.148.200]) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-980202-1) with ESMTP id GAA20284 for ; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 06:29:49 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (scrappy@localhost) by hub.org (8.8.8/8.7.5) with SMTP id JAA06493; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 09:30:44 -0500 (EST) Date: Fri, 13 Mar 1998 09:30:43 -0500 (EST) From: The Hermit Hacker To: John Mulhollen cc: Joseph Scanlan , Bruce Campbell , majordomo-users Subject: Re: What in the world is RTFM? In-Reply-To: <199803131352.FAA25894@prefetch.san.rr.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk On Wed, 11 Mar 1998, John Mulhollen wrote: > no...RTFM is Read the FINE manual Only if you are in a kind mood :) normally, by the time you use RTFM, you aren't, and the meaning changes :) From majordomo-users-owner Fri Mar 13 07:22:36 1998 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-970926-1) id GAA24577; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 06:54:50 -0800 (PST) Received: from satelite.emg.hu (satelite.emg.hu [195.70.32.78]) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-980202-1) with ESMTP id GAA24557 for ; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 06:54:40 -0800 (PST) Received: from sajat.emg.hu (sajat.emg.hu [192.168.1.10]) by satelite.emg.hu (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id PAA07800 for ; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 15:59:33 +0100 From: "Zso-Zso" To: Subject: Majordomo Date: Fri, 13 Mar 1998 16:05:43 +0100 Message-ID: <01bd4e91$7e6032a0$0a01a8c0@sajat.emg.hu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-2" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.71.1712.3 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.71.1712.3 Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk Help me I am running on PC P166, Linux Slackware 2.0.33. I have tried to configue majordomo-1.94.4 under Perl 5.003 I had installed it, so I got message : Nothig bad found ! Majordomo _sould_ work correctly. Next step is creating a NEWLIST, so i wrote : echo 'config hufo hufo.admin' | wrapper majordomo It aborts quickly and give the msg : list@satelite.emg.hu: is not a valid return address. Where list is an existing user on satelite machine and it is owner of dirs and files of majordomo. Help me, somebody I can not get rid of this messages alone. Thanks : zsozso@emg.hu From majordomo-users-owner Fri Mar 13 07:37:19 1998 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-970926-1) id GAA25105; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 06:57:28 -0800 (PST) Received: from behemoth.tamu.edu (BEHEMOTH.TAMU.EDU [128.194.44.99]) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-980202-1) with ESMTP id GAA24948 for ; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 06:56:59 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (psittler@localhost) by behemoth.tamu.edu (8.8.8/8.7.3) with SMTP id IAA02289; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 08:57:40 -0600 Date: Fri, 13 Mar 1998 08:57:40 -0600 (CST) From: "Paul M. Sittler" To: John Mulhollen cc: Joseph Scanlan , Bruce Campbell , majordomo-users Subject: Re: What in the world is RTFM? In-Reply-To: <199803131352.FAA25894@prefetch.san.rr.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk On Wed, 11 Mar 1998, John Mulhollen wrote: > no...RTFM is Read the FINE manual We usually interpret it as "Read The Fact-filled Manual". > ---------- > : From: Joseph Scanlan > : To: Bruce Campbell > : Cc: majordomo-users > : Subject: Re: What in the world is RTFM? > : Date: Tuesday, March 10, 1998 2:13 PM > : > : On Tue, 10 Mar 1998, Bruce Campbell wrote: > : > : > RTFM quite plainly means: > : > > : > Read The Manual. > : > : Someone in tech. support once told me RTFM stood for Read > : The Friendly Manual. Uh, huh. ;-) > : > : ------------- My opinions are mine alone, and that fact ------------- > : ------------- provides intense relief for my coworkers. ------------- > : Joe Scanlan N7XSD Clark County, Nevada > : Systems Programmer Informations Systems > : jps@accessnv.com (not work) PO Box 551761 > : jps@co.clark.nv.us (work) Las Vegas, NV 89155-1761 > : 702 455-4932 (FAX) USA > : --------------------- http://www.co.clark.nv.us --------------------- > : ------------------- http://coyote.accessnv.com/jps ------------------ > : > ------- Paul M. Sittler (root) | / / (_)__ __ ____ __ | The choice Leviathan System Admin | / /__/ / _ \/ // /\ \/ / | of a GNU email: p-sittler@tamu.edu | /____/_/_//_/\_,_/ /_/\_\ | Generation Phone: 409 845-9689 A 486 is a terrible thing to waste. Pager: 409 759-1258 A 386SX is a terrible thing. From majordomo-users-owner Fri Mar 13 09:52:43 1998 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-970926-1) id HAA06775; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 07:55:18 -0800 (PST) Received: from prescienttech.com (londo.prescienttech.com [199.103.216.62]) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-980202-1) with ESMTP id HAA06637 for ; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 07:54:47 -0800 (PST) Received: from gkar.prescienttech.com. (gkar.prescienttech.com [111.17.19.1]) by prescienttech.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id KAA02540 for ; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 10:55:34 -0500 From: Rich Pieri To: majordomo-users@greatcircle.com Subject: Re: What in the world is RTFM? References: X-No-Archive: yes Mail-Copies-To: never Date: 13 Mar 1998 10:55:34 -0500 In-Reply-To: "Paul M. Sittler"'s message of "Fri, 13 Mar 1998 08:57:40 -0600 (CST)" Message-ID: Lines: 29 X-Mailer: Gnus v5.4.66/Emacs 19.34 Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- >>>>> "PMS" == Paul M Sittler writes: >> no...RTFM is Read the FINE manual PMS> We usually interpret it as "Read The Fact-filled Manual". Sigh. For the record, RTFM means "read the fucking manual", with a silent, understood, "you moron!" tacked on the end. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 4.0 Business Edition Charset: noconv iQCVAwUBNQlW8p6VRH7BJMxHAQH42gP+PQzMO7+wuEFhHgKTw1Fs1SzM7z3sNnf7 TpKr/gO+VvzzxEJuug0dWmXvEdcN0jdwta3+TuoIUn24MbcLhVoO4hwz1zuyS2Ez 8oSrw7My23vqGIf2nHXlHxNgxLgSHMJe8Hk6h42jMld1LZ4vMFo+A6QIe6Uyy1IQ oc0vyHrvoNU= =awVh -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- Rich Pieri / If Happy Fun Ball begins to smoke, Sysmonster, Unix Wrangler / get away immediately. Seek shelter Prescient Technologies, Inc. / and cover head. I speak for myself, not PTI or SWEC / From majordomo-users-owner Fri Mar 13 10:06:52 1998 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-970926-1) id IAA19770; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 08:48:57 -0800 (PST) Received: from plains.NoDak.edu (plains.NoDak.edu [134.129.111.64]) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-980202-1) with ESMTP id IAA19521 for ; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 08:48:08 -0800 (PST) Received: from plains.nodak.edu (current@und-as4p23.und.NoDak.edu [134.129.135.172]) by plains.NoDak.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA16497; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 10:48:40 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <350967E5.6607A729@plains.nodak.edu> Date: Fri, 13 Mar 1998 11:07:50 -0600 From: Robert Current X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (X11; I; Linux 2.0.33 i686) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Bill Houle , majordomo-users@GreatCircle.COM Subject: Re: I need help, can't get it configured. References: <199803131558.JAA23730@plains.NoDak.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk Bill Houle wrote: > } /(^|([^\\"]|\\.)+)"([^\\"]|\\.|$)*"?/: regexp *+ operand could be empty > } at major > } domo.pl line 519. > } > } What do I do? > > Read the FAQ. Please READ YOUR SUBSCRIPTION INFO! I read the man pages, FAQ, and scanned the archives before I subscribed. You can call me blind, but telling me to do the same think I did over again that didn't help the first time is pointless. If it's in there, please tell me at LEAST what subsection. http://www.cis.ohio-state.edu/~barr/majordomo-faq.html Sorry, but I am SOOO sick of hearing RTFM when in fact I NEVER ask untill I have read man pages, and any how-to, read-me, eratta, FAQ, or whatever is avaliable. You have to realize, telling someone to read the FAQ, you should at _LEAST_ tell them where in the FAQ. I have NOW thanks to YOU read it for the 5th time, and even ran find on it for "operand" and "regexp" to try to make sure I wasn't blind. But, honestly, either I _am_ blind, the FAQ is very unclear, or your being a jerk. I have been using some form of UNIX for many years, and I very much resent being told to RTFM on the rare occasion I do post a question. Why wouldn't you assume I have? Even if you didn't assume I had (which I HAVE), your reply would be 100% more helpfull if you said exactly WHERE the FAQ you were refering to was, and WHAT SECTION. In this case I have read the FAQ. SO, even if you tell me the exact section, I might have to come back and ask "how does that relate to what I am seeing? and how would I fix it?" In which case, you would have saved everyones time by answering the question in the first place. (Q.Where can I see a good play? A.Go to New York) -- "Complete Idiots Guide to Running LINUX Unleashed in a Nutshell for Dumbies" What a book! Robert Wesley Current Jr. http://cgsa.chem.und.nodak.edu/~current/ current@plains.nodak.edu n, University of North Dakota _/ | _ Department of Chemistry /' `'/ Office Phone (701)777-2541 <~ .' ACS, AAAS, NDAS .' | _/ | _/ `.`. _______/ ' \__ | |______ ##################_/ (|___/ /__\ \ \ \___.####################### #################/ \___.'\_______)\_|_| \####################### ################|\ -----\################# ################| \____________________________________/|################# ###############/ | |################# From majordomo-users-owner Fri Mar 13 10:56:37 1998 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-970926-1) id KAA13352; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 10:44:51 -0800 (PST) Received: from kronos.nhgri.nih.gov (nhgri.nih.gov [165.112.191.6]) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-980202-1) with ESMTP id KAA13241 for ; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 10:44:30 -0800 (PST) Received: from athena (athena.nhgri.nih.gov [165.112.191.101]) by kronos.nhgri.nih.gov (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id NAA29916 for ; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 13:45:14 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199803131845.NAA29916@kronos.nhgri.nih.gov> Date: Fri, 13 Mar 1998 13:45:14 -0500 (EST) From: Jim McVey Reply-To: Jim McVey Subject: Re: I need help, can't get it configured. To: majordomo-users@GreatCircle.COM MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-MD5: tw+QBgDlVRUgSSz1R6spZg== X-Mailer: dtmail 1.2.1 CDE Version 1.2.1 SunOS 5.6 sun4m sparc Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk > > I am using majordomo version 1.94.1 with perl version 5.004_03 > I have been using some form of UNIX for many years, and I very much resent > being told to RTFM on the rare occasion I do post a question. Why wouldn't > you assume I have? Even if you didn't assume I had (which I HAVE), your > reply would be 100% more helpfull if you said exactly WHERE the FAQ you were > refering to was, and WHAT SECTION. Well, how about section 1.1, where it says: "You must upgrade to version 1.94.3 in order for it to work with Perl 5.004, due to changes in regular expressions. " --- Jim McVey NHGRI LAN Support jmcvey@nhgri.nih.gov From majordomo-users-owner Fri Mar 13 11:22:41 1998 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-970926-1) id KAA12398; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 10:40:22 -0800 (PST) Received: from gsp.org (rsk.itw.com [208.211.3.21]) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-980202-1) with ESMTP id HAA07427 for ; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 07:58:13 -0800 (PST) Received: (from rsk@localhost) by gsp.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA08280; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 10:59:51 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <19980313105950.21437@wombat> Date: Fri, 13 Mar 1998 10:59:50 -0500 From: Rich Kulawiec To: majordomo-users@GreatCircle.COM Subject: Re: Unkind Replies References: <199803100455.UAA06202@mail.thegrid.net> <199803101937.MAA28589@polaris.azstarnet.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.89.1 In-Reply-To: <199803101937.MAA28589@polaris.azstarnet.com>; from Bob Bish on Tue, Mar 10, 1998 at 12:37:41PM +0000 Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk On Tue, Mar 10, 1998 at 12:37:41PM +0000, Bob Bish wrote: > Why are list managers not as patient and understanding as Hummer owners?