From majordomo-users-owner Fri May 1 03:07:20 1998 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-970926-1) id DAA14480; Fri, 1 May 1998 03:06:44 -0700 (PDT) Received: from atle.abc.se (atle.abc.se [192.36.170.16]) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-980202-1) with ESMTP id DAA14471 for ; Fri, 1 May 1998 03:06:33 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (m8698@localhost) by atle.abc.se (8.8.8+Sun/8.8.8) with SMTP id MAA25783; Fri, 1 May 1998 12:01:55 +0200 (MET DST) X-Authentication-Warning: atle.abc.se: m8698 owned process doing -bs Date: Fri, 1 May 1998 11:01:55 +0100 (MET) From: Mats Dufberg X-Sender: m8698@atle To: Danny Carroll cc: majordomo-users@GreatCircle.COM Subject: Re: To field. In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk On Fri, 1 May 1998, Danny Carroll wrote: > I can mail to mylist@fineart.qut.edu.au but list members get > mylist@mailman.arts.qut.edu.au in the to: field Turn off masquerading in sendmail. Or adjust it with "limited masquerading". See the sendmail documentation for creating sendmail.cf with m4 macros. ----------------------------------------------------------------- Mats Dufberg Mats.Dufberg@abc.se From majordomo-users-owner Fri May 1 03:37:48 1998 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-970926-1) id DAA16795; Fri, 1 May 1998 03:27:54 -0700 (PDT) Received: from packfish.gateway.net.hk (packfish.gateway.net.hk [202.76.19.16]) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-980202-1) with SMTP id DAA16788 for ; Fri, 1 May 1998 03:27:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 28365 invoked by uid 717); 1 May 1998 10:29:37 -0000 Date: Fri, 1 May 1998 18:29:36 +0800 (HKT) From: Rino Lam To: majordomo-users@greatcircle.com Subject: Attachment Filter Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk Hello all Majordomo users, I have troubles with Email attachments in the mailing list for quite a long time. I think you may also have the bad experience with the TNEF files from MS Outlook and WINMAIL.DAT file from MS Exchange. Morever, people are including VCard and other new and strange files now. I would like to see if I can solve this problem by applying a mail attachment filter, instead of bouncing the message. The subscribers of my mailing list are now complaining for my mail rejection system - they said it is not fair for rejecting messages from people who use Outlook or Exchange. I am looking forward to hearing the bright ideas from you. Thank you in advance. Regards, Rino From majordomo-users-owner Fri May 1 04:52:31 1998 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-970926-1) id EAA18203; Fri, 1 May 1998 04:49:16 -0700 (PDT) Received: from dumb.ktis.net (dumb.ktis.net [208.220.174.1]) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-980202-1) with ESMTP id EAA18194 for ; Fri, 1 May 1998 04:49:10 -0700 (PDT) Received: from peck ([208.220.174.29]) by dumb.ktis.net (Post.Office MTA v3.1 release PO203a ID# 0-39367U5000L500S0) with SMTP id AAA28634 for ; Fri, 1 May 1998 06:51:05 -0500 Message-ID: <000201bd74f7$377c9ea0$1daedcd0@peck> From: dfpeck@ktis.net (Dorothy F. Peck) To: Date: Thu, 30 Apr 1998 10:47:14 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0004_01BD7425.56910B00" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.2106.4 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0004_01BD7425.56910B00 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I wish to be removed from majordomo as I am going on vacation. Have = tried twice to be removed and can't get it done. dfpeck@ktis.net ------=_NextPart_000_0004_01BD7425.56910B00 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
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------=_NextPart_000_0004_01BD7425.56910B00-- From majordomo-users-owner Fri May 1 06:44:20 1998 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-970926-1) id GAA19572; Fri, 1 May 1998 06:34:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: from stingray.ivision.co.uk (stingray.ivision.co.uk [195.50.91.40]) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-980202-1) with SMTP id GAA19565 for ; Fri, 1 May 1998 06:34:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pretender.ivision.co.uk [195.50.91.43] by stingray.ivision.co.uk with smtp (Exim 1.62 #2) id 0yVFz5-0004bz-00; Fri, 1 May 1998 14:36:15 +0100 Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.19980501143513.00a07100@stingray.ivision.co.uk> X-Sender: manarpop@stingray.ivision.co.uk X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.5 (32) Date: Fri, 01 May 1998 14:35:13 +0100 To: Rino Lam From: Manar Hussain Subject: Re: Attachment Filter Cc: majordomo-users@greatcircle.com In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk >I have troubles with Email attachments in the mailing list for quite a >long time. I think you may also have the bad experience with the TNEF >files from MS Outlook and WINMAIL.DAT file from MS Exchange. Morever, >people are including VCard and other new and strange files now. I would >like to see if I can solve this problem by applying a mail attachment >filter, instead of bouncing the message. The subscribers of my mailing >list are now complaining for my mail rejection system - they said it is >not fair for rejecting messages from people who use Outlook or Exchange. You can can try and spot just those attachments and strip them. We have something for our web gateway system that strips all such attachments but we haven't moved it into majordomo or anything - though we have given some thought to using it as an "extra" stage you can use between majordomo and the -outgoing call. Manar From majordomo-users-owner Fri May 1 07:25:44 1998 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-970926-1) id HAA20489; Fri, 1 May 1998 07:11:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ifi.uio.no (ifi.uio.no [129.240.64.2]) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-980202-1) with ESMTP id HAA20482 for ; Fri, 1 May 1998 07:11:15 -0700 (PDT) Received: from solva.ifi.uio.no (1368@solva.ifi.uio.no [129.240.64.20]) by ifi.uio.no (8.8.8/8.8.7/ifi0.2) with SMTP id QAA00047; Fri, 1 May 1998 16:13:08 +0200 (MET DST) Received: (from thomasg@localhost) by solva.ifi.uio.no ; Fri, 1 May 1998 16:13:07 +0200 Date: Fri, 1 May 1998 16:13:06 +0200 From: Thomas Gramstad Reply-To: thomasg@ifi.uio.no To: Tina Tindall Subject: Re: Archive Question In-Reply-To: Tina Tindall 's message of Thu, 30 Apr 1998 15:17:58 -0700 References: <3.0.32.19980430151754.0072ed20@mail.wsu.edu> Cc: majordomo-users@greatcircle.com Message-ID: Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk > The 9804 stands for April 1998... as soon as it's May, it'll start a 9805 > one (and then the index will show two)... you have it set to archive > monthly.. Meaning all posts for the month go into one file. I know you can > change this to daily (so all posts for each day go into a separate file), > in which case the files would show up as: > > misnews.980429 > misnews.980430 > misnews.980501 > and so on. > > Not sure if there is a weekly switch or not but there should be. What "switch" is this? How and where does one set these things? I can find nothing about this in the .config-file. Thomas Gramstad thomasg@ifi.uio.no From majordomo-users-owner Fri May 1 07:52:50 1998 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-970926-1) id HAA21243; Fri, 1 May 1998 07:43:26 -0700 (PDT) Received: from stingray.ivision.co.uk (stingray.ivision.co.uk [195.50.91.40]) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-980202-1) with SMTP id HAA21236 for ; Fri, 1 May 1998 07:43:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pretender.ivision.co.uk [195.50.91.43] by stingray.ivision.co.uk with smtp (Exim 1.62 #2) id 0yVH3u-00058g-00; Fri, 1 May 1998 15:45:18 +0100 Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.19980501154416.008e28a0@stingray.ivision.co.uk> X-Sender: manarpop@stingray.ivision.co.uk X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.5 (32) Date: Fri, 01 May 1998 15:44:16 +0100 To: majordomo-users@greatcircle.com From: Manar Hussain Subject: Re: Archive Question Cc: Thomas Gramstad In-Reply-To: References: <3.0.32.19980430151754.0072ed20@mail.wsu.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk >> Not sure if there is a weekly switch or not but there should be. > >What "switch" is this? How and where does one set these things? >I can find nothing about this in the .config-file. It's all done via a seperate archive script provided with the standard distribution - check out the faq/docs. Manar From majordomo-users-owner Fri May 1 09:03:16 1998 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-970926-1) id IAA22405; Fri, 1 May 1998 08:42:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: from kitsune.swcp.com (swcp.com [198.59.115.2]) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-980202-1) with ESMTP id IAA22398 for ; Fri, 1 May 1998 08:42:16 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from lazlo@localhost) by kitsune.swcp.com (8.8.8/1.2.3) id JAA23750; Fri, 1 May 1998 09:44:13 -0600 (MDT) Message-ID: <19980501094412.A22660@swcp.com> Date: Fri, 1 May 1998 09:44:12 -0600 From: Lazlo Nibble To: majordomo-users@GreatCircle.COM Subject: Re: Attachment Filter Mail-Followup-To: majordomo-users@GreatCircle.COM References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.91.1i In-Reply-To: ; from Rino Lam on Fri, May 01, 1998 at 06:29:36PM +0800 Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk On Fri, May 01, 1998 at 06:29:36PM +0800, Rino Lam wrote: > I have troubles with Email attachments in the mailing list for quite a > long time. I think you may also have the bad experience with the TNEF > files from MS Outlook and WINMAIL.DAT file from MS Exchange. Morever, > people are including VCard and other new and strange files now. I would > like to see if I can solve this problem by applying a mail attachment > filter, instead of bouncing the message. The subscribers of my mailing > list are now complaining for my mail rejection system - they said it is > not fair for rejecting messages from people who use Outlook or Exchange. You're not rejecting messages from people who use Outlook or Exchange, just from people who can't be bothered to configure their copies of Outlook or Exchange to *not* send unnecessary garbage to your list. My suggestion: add a few lines to your list info file describing how to turn off the extra junk in these mailers (the info is around here somewhere, not sure where though) and keep bouncing messages with the rules you have in place now. If (when!) people complain, point them at the list info message. This garbage is, after all, their problem -- not yours. I have /^Content-Type: / in my lists' taboo_body settings and automatically forward the BOUNCE messages that result back to the users with a polite explanation why. No complaints yet. -- ::: Lazlo (lazlo@swcp.com; http://www.swcp.com/lazlo) ::: Internet Music Wantlists: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo/Wantlists From majordomo-users-owner Fri May 1 09:29:01 1998 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-970926-1) id JAA23044; Fri, 1 May 1998 09:10:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nyahsa2.nyahsa.org (mail.nyahsa.org [209.203.152.18]) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-980202-1) with ESMTP id JAA23037 for ; Fri, 1 May 1998 09:10:06 -0700 (PDT) Received: from tim.nyahsa.org (tim [192.168.100.11]) by nyahsa2.nyahsa.org (8.8.6 (PHNE_14041)/8.7.3) with SMTP id MAA19772 for ; Fri, 1 May 1998 12:12:39 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <2.2.32.19980501161305.006c5fb0@192.168.100.2> X-Sender: tim@192.168.100.2 X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 2.2 (32) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Fri, 01 May 1998 12:13:05 -0400 To: majordomo-users@greatcircle.com From: Tim Barber Subject: Re: Archive Question Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk Thomas, The switch must be set up in the alias file i.e. /etc/mail/aliases. In my case misnews-archive: "|/majordomo/majordomo-1.94.4-bin/wrapper archive2.pl -f /major domo/majordomo-1.94.4-bin/lists/misnews.archive/misnews -D -a" The Documentation on this is in the program itself "archive2.pl". # archive -f {-u|-a} [-d|-m|-y] [file ...] # -f REQUIRED; specifies base file name for archive # -u Input is a UNIX archive (separated by "From " lines) to split # -a Input is a message to append to archive # -d Archive file is .YYMMDD # -D Archive file is .YYYYMMDD # -m Archive file is .YYMM # -M Archive file is .YYYYMM # -y Archive file is .YY # -Y Archive file is .YYYY At 04:13 PM 5/1/98 +0200, you wrote: >> The 9804 stands for April 1998... as soon as it's May, it'll start a 9805 >> one (and then the index will show two)... you have it set to archive >> monthly.. Meaning all posts for the month go into one file. I know you can >> change this to daily (so all posts for each day go into a separate file), >> in which case the files would show up as: >> >> misnews.980429 >> misnews.980430 >> misnews.980501 >> and so on. >> >> Not sure if there is a weekly switch or not but there should be. > >What "switch" is this? How and where does one set these things? >I can find nothing about this in the .config-file. > >Thomas Gramstad >thomasg@ifi.uio.no > > Timothy Barber Director of Technology Services New York Association of Homes and Services for the Aging (NYAHSA) 150 State Street, Suite 301 Albany, NY 12207 Email:tim@nyahsa.org Phone: 518-449-2707 x 35 Fax: 518-455-8908 From majordomo-users-owner Fri May 1 10:07:40 1998 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-970926-1) id KAA24422; Fri, 1 May 1998 10:03:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ihot.com (ns.ihot.com [207.211.186.2]) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-980202-1) with ESMTP id KAA24415 for ; Fri, 1 May 1998 10:03:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ihot.com (ossetra.ihot.com [207.211.186.182]) by ihot.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA27543 for ; Fri, 1 May 1998 10:15:08 -0700 Message-ID: <354A009C.BCB03C1C@ihot.com> Date: Fri, 01 May 1998 10:04:28 -0700 From: Jeff Halper Organization: Internet Hotline X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en]C-NECCK (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: majordomo-users@greatcircle.com Subject: Pricing question/survey Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk I'm curious to know how much some of you charge for hosting Majordomo lists. I'm an ISP in northern California, just installed majordomo, and want to develop a pricing that is fair for our web host clients to have mailing lists. -- JEFF HALPER Internet Hotline * POB 5787 * San Jose CA 95150 http://www.ihot.com mailto:jeff@ihot.com 408/881-1000 Fax 408/293-3456 From majordomo-users-owner Fri May 1 11:37:27 1998 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-970926-1) id LAA26942; Fri, 1 May 1998 11:32:43 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ncr-sd.SanDiegoCA.NCR.COM (h153-64-251-18.NCR.COM [153.64.251.18]) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-980202-1) with ESMTP id LAA26931 for ; Fri, 1 May 1998 11:32:29 -0700 (PDT) Received: from jabberwocky (jabberwocky.SanDiegoCA.NCR.COM [153.64.69.123]) by ncr-sd.SanDiegoCA.NCR.COM (8.8.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id LAA01497; Fri, 1 May 1998 11:32:07 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199805011832.LAA01497@ncr-sd.SanDiegoCA.NCR.COM> X-Sender: bhoule@www.sandiegoca.ncr.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.0 Date: Fri, 01 May 1998 11:06:06 -0700 To: thomasg@ifi.uio.no, Tina Tindall From: Bill Houle Subject: Re: Archive Question Cc: majordomo-users@GreatCircle.COM In-Reply-To: References: <3.0.32.19980430151754.0072ed20@mail.wsu.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk At 04:13 PM 5/1/98 +0200, Thomas Gramstad wrote: >> >> Not sure if there is a weekly switch or not but there should be. > >What "switch" is this? How and where does one set these things? >I can find nothing about this in the .config-file. It's in the archive's mail alias itself. There's nothing of that nature in the list config file unless your admin provides a linkage between the config settings and the alias generation process. [Which is what MajorCool's mj_build_aliases optional script does, BTW.] --bill From majordomo-users-owner Fri May 1 13:22:23 1998 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-970926-1) id NAA29101; Fri, 1 May 1998 13:19:23 -0700 (PDT) Received: from harman-dod.com (mail.harman-dod.com [207.14.230.134]) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-980202-1) with SMTP id NAA29094 for ; Fri, 1 May 1998 13:19:16 -0700 (PDT) Received: from HIII-Message_Server by harman-dod.com with Novell_GroupWise; Fri, 01 May 1998 14:21:08 -0600 Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise 5.2 Date: Fri, 01 May 1998 14:21:00 -0600 From: "Randy Thorderson" To: majordomo-users@greatcircle.com, jeff@ihot.com Subject: Re: Pricing question/survey Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk ..ours is inside...not for rent... \\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\ \\ Randy Thorderson \\ DigiTech & Johnson \\ Harman Music Group \\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\ >>> Jeff Halper - 5/1/98 11:04 AM >>> I'm curious to know how much some of you charge for hosting Majordomo lists. I'm an ISP in northern California, just installed majordomo, and want to develop a pricing that is fair for our web host clients to have mailing lists. -- JEFF HALPER Internet Hotline * POB 5787 * San Jose CA 95150 http://www.ihot.com mailto:jeff@ihot.com 408/881-1000 Fax 408/293-3456 From majordomo-users-owner Fri May 1 13:37:19 1998 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-970926-1) id NAA29318; Fri, 1 May 1998 13:29:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: from bc.mountain.net (BC.Mountain.Net [198.77.1.35]) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-980202-1) with ESMTP id NAA29309 for ; Fri, 1 May 1998 13:29:41 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mountain.net (tec.Mountain.Net [198.77.1.37]) by bc.mountain.net (8.8.7/8.8.5) with ESMTP id QAA22341 for ; Fri, 1 May 1998 16:31:34 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <354A30E1.96D6FA1@mountain.net> Date: Fri, 01 May 1998 16:30:25 -0400 From: Tim Connolly Organization: Mountain.Net, Inc. X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "majordomo-users@GreatCircle.COM" Subject: Adding users to a list auto? Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk Has anyone been able to use "adduser" to create an account and add the email address to a mailing list ? -- Tim Connolly tec@mountain.net MountainNet, Inc. -- (304) 594-9075 ext. 37 2816 Cranberry Square -- fax (304) 594-9088 Morgantown, WV 26505 -- My signatures are getting longer and longer.. -- If you really want to see it... http://mountain.net/~tec From majordomo-users-owner Fri May 1 13:52:42 1998 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-970926-1) id NAA29635; Fri, 1 May 1998 13:40:58 -0700 (PDT) Received: from siren.shore.net (siren.shore.net [207.244.124.5]) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-980202-1) with SMTP id NAA29600 for ; Fri, 1 May 1998 13:40:44 -0700 (PDT) Received: from smoe.org [204.167.97.154] (jeffw) by siren.shore.net with esmtp (Exim) id 0yVMdc-0000xr-00; Fri, 1 May 1998 16:42:33 -0400 Received: (from jeffw@localhost) by smoe.org (8.8.7/8.8.7/daemon-mode-relay2) id QAA27274; Fri, 1 May 1998 16:45:10 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <19980501164508.E566@smoe.org> Date: Fri, 1 May 1998 16:45:08 -0400 From: Jeff Wasilko To: Randy Thorderson , majordomo-users@GreatCircle.COM, jeff@ihot.com Subject: Re: Pricing question/survey Mail-Followup-To: Randy Thorderson , majordomo-users@GreatCircle.COM, jeff@ihot.com References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.91.1 In-Reply-To: ; from "Randy Thorderson" on Fri, May 01, 1998 at 02:21:00PM -0600 Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk On Fri, May 01, 1998 at 02:21:00PM -0600, Randy Thorderson wrote: > I'm curious to know how much some of you charge for hosting Majordomo > lists. > > I'm an ISP in northern California, just installed majordomo, and want to > develop a pricing that is fair for our web host clients to have mailing > lists. You might want to avoid discussing prices for mailing list services as to avoid the appearance of price fixing. See http://www.hwg.org/resources/faqs/priceFAQ.html for more info... Jeff From majordomo-users-owner Fri May 1 14:28:20 1998 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-970926-1) id OAA00539; Fri, 1 May 1998 14:12:29 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ihot.com (ns.ihot.com [207.211.186.2]) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-980202-1) with ESMTP id OAA00532 for ; Fri, 1 May 1998 14:12:23 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ihot.com (ossetra.ihot.com [207.211.186.182]) by ihot.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA09534; Fri, 1 May 1998 14:23:53 -0700 Message-ID: <354A3AE7.C7A42263@ihot.com> Date: Fri, 01 May 1998 14:13:11 -0700 From: Jeff Halper Organization: Internet Hotline X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en]C-NECCK (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Jeff Wasilko CC: Randy Thorderson , majordomo-users@GreatCircle.COM Subject: Re: Pricing question/survey References: <19980501164508.E566@smoe.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk Sorry - I won't ask pricing questions again. I read the FAQ link that Jeff Wasilko provided - WOW was that enlightening. I wasn't trying to do any sort of price-fix - I posed this question on another list as well, and I'll refrain from this there, too. Jeff Wasilko wrote: > On Fri, May 01, 1998 at 02:21:00PM -0600, Randy Thorderson wrote: > > I'm curious to know how much some of you charge for hosting Majordomo > > lists. > > > > I'm an ISP in northern California, just installed majordomo, and want to > > develop a pricing that is fair for our web host clients to have mailing > > lists. > > You might want to avoid discussing prices for mailing list > services as to avoid the appearance of price fixing. > > See http://www.hwg.org/resources/faqs/priceFAQ.html for more info... > > Jeff -- JEFF HALPER Internet Hotline * POB 5787 * San Jose CA 95150 http://www.ihot.com mailto:jeff@ihot.com 408/881-1000 Fax 408/293-3456 From majordomo-users-owner Fri May 1 14:37:24 1998 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-970926-1) id NAA29908; Fri, 1 May 1998 13:54:53 -0700 (PDT) Received: (mcb@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-980202-1) id NAA29900 for majordomo-users@greatcircle.com; Fri, 1 May 1998 13:54:51 -0700 (PDT) Received: from home.samurai.com (samurai.reptiles.org [198.96.117.149]) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-980202-1) with ESMTP id NAA29740 for ; Fri, 1 May 1998 13:45:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from bryanf@localhost) by home.samurai.com (8.8.8/8.8.7) id QAA28155; Fri, 1 May 1998 16:47:52 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <19980501164751.A21349@samurai.com> Date: Fri, 1 May 1998 16:47:51 -0400 From: Bryan Fullerton To: Tim Connolly , "majordomo-users@GreatCircle.COM" Subject: Re: Adding users to a list auto? References: <354A30E1.96D6FA1@mountain.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.92.4i In-Reply-To: <354A30E1.96D6FA1@mountain.net>; from Tim Connolly on Fri, May 01, 1998 at 04:30:25PM -0400 Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk On Fri, May 01, 1998 at 04:30:25PM -0400, Tim Connolly wrote: > Has anyone been able to use "adduser" to create an account and add the email > address to a mailing list ? On many OSs, "adduser" is just a perl or shell script - adding someone to a list is rather trivial, just add in a line to have it mail a subscribe message to majordomo (and make sure adduser isn't readable by users, since it'll have the list password in plaintext [unless you get really fancy]). I'd be able to give you a more specific answer if I knew which *NIX you're using. Bryan -- bryanf@samurai.com Home "You know, sometimes I just want to bryanf@canoe.ca Work be a chicken." - Master FehHead bryanf@icomm.ca http://www.icomm.ca http://www.feh.net From majordomo-users-owner Fri May 1 14:40:30 1998 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-970926-1) id OAA00620; Fri, 1 May 1998 14:18:54 -0700 (PDT) Received: from TWSUVM.UC.TWSU.EDU (TWSUVM.UC.TWSU.EDU [156.26.1.2]) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-980202-1) with SMTP id OAA00613 for ; Fri, 1 May 1998 14:18:48 -0700 (PDT) Received: from twsuvm.uc.twsu.edu by TWSUVM.UC.TWSU.EDU (IBM VM SMTP V2R2) with TCP; Fri, 01 May 98 16:19:27 CDT Message-ID: <354A3D53.126BFF72@twsuvm.uc.twsu.edu> Date: Fri, 01 May 1998 16:23:32 -0500 From: Kitty Smith X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.05 [en] (WinNT; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: majordomo-users@greatcircle.com Subject: majordomo 1.93 and sendmail 8.9 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk I just upgraded to sendmail 8.9. Prior to this everything was working fine. Directories can not be group readable for sendmail so I changed the modes and ownership so that daemon could write to the needed files. I can communicate with the individual lists, but commands to majordomo are another story. From the user's standpoint it looks like the commands go through, but actually the mail status is: Mail Queue (1 request) --Q-ID-- --Size-- -----Q-Time----- -----------Sender/Recipient------------ QAA39060 14 Fri May 1 16:12 majordomo (mailer prog died with signal 13) "|/wsu/majordomo/wrapper majordomo" Of course I get a different "signal" depending on what command I have issued. subscribe give 13, help give 11. I had to change the permissions from 775 to 755 for all of the directories for sendmail to work. This "broke" majordomo so I made the owner daemon and that is where I am now. I found a comment about sendmail 8.9 in the FAQ. It instructs one to change the DontBlameSendmail parameter, but when I do that sendmail will not run. It says /path/to/lists is unrecognized. I am pretty sure this is a permissions problem because the Log file is not being written to. However, the archiving is working fine. Can anyone give me a suggestion on what to do next. Thanks. -- Kitty Smith Technical Support Analyst Wichita State University From majordomo-users-owner Fri May 1 14:44:33 1998 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-970926-1) id OAA00391; Fri, 1 May 1998 14:02:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: from sina.hpc.uh.edu (Sina.HPC.UH.EDU [129.7.3.5]) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-980202-1) with ESMTP id OAA00384 for ; Fri, 1 May 1998 14:02:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from tibbs@localhost) by sina.hpc.uh.edu (8.7.3/8.7.3) id QAA23489; Fri, 1 May 1998 16:04:24 -0500 (CDT) To: Tim Connolly Cc: "majordomo-users@GreatCircle.COM" Subject: Re: Adding users to a list auto? References: <354A30E1.96D6FA1@mountain.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 (generated by tm-edit 7.100) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII From: Jason L Tibbitts III Date: 01 May 1998 16:04:24 -0500 In-Reply-To: Tim Connolly's message of "Fri, 01 May 1998 16:30:25 -0400" Message-ID: Lines: 87 X-Mailer: Gnus v5.6.9/Emacs 19.34 Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk >>>>> "TC" == Tim Connolly writes: TC> Has anyone been able to use "adduser" to create an account and add the TC> email address to a mailing list ? Wrap it in a trivial shell script? #!/bin/sh /path/to/adduser.real $@ echo "approve blah zubscribe list $1@your.host" | mail majordomo (untested and probably slightly broken, but you should get the idea). Or run the mailall program which I post occasionally. Here's a copy; hack as necessary. - J< #!/usr/local/bin/perl5 -w # # mailall # # sends mail to all users on this host. verifies that the user is really # a user by checking uid, shell, and login name. allows us to send mail # to, for example, "allusers@mother.cs.colorado.edu" and delievers that # mail to all the "real" people on that machine. # # requires a line in /usr/lib/aliases like: # allusers: "|/usr/local/bin/mailall" # # Originally By: davewood@cs.colorado.edu # October 15, 1992 # Hacked, mangled, and rewritten by # Jason L. Tibbitts # Set this for testing $DEBUG = 0; # Ignore all users with IDs less than this $MIN_ID = 1000; # Where to find list of shells $ETC_SHELLS = "/etc/shells"; # Where to find the list of accounts $ETC_PASSWD = "/etc/passwd"; # These users will not be sent mail @nomail = qw( nobody noacess tester ); # Grab the list of valid shells; users without a valid shell will get no # mail open(SHELLS,$ETC_SHELLS) || die("Can't open list of valid shells: $ETC_SHELLS, $!, stopped"); @shells = ; close SHELLS; # Go through the password file and find real users open(PASSWD,$ETC_PASSWD) || die ("Can't open password file: $ETC_PASSWD: $!, stopped"); foreach () { ($login,$dummy,$uid,$dummy,$dummy,$dummy,$shell) = split(/:/); push(@mailto,$login) if ($uid >= $MIN_ID && grep(/^$shell$/,@shells) && $shell !~ /^$/) && !grep(/^$login$/,@nomail); } close PASSWD; if ($DEBUG) { print "Will send mail to these users:\n"; foreach (@mailto) { print "$_\n"; } exit 0; } # Dump standard input into a message sent to all valid users open (MAIL,"|/usr/lib/sendmail @mailto"); foreach () { print MAIL; } close MAIL; From majordomo-users-owner Fri May 1 15:13:16 1998 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-970926-1) id OAA01937; Fri, 1 May 1998 14:55:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: from sina.hpc.uh.edu (Sina.HPC.UH.EDU [129.7.3.5]) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-980202-1) with ESMTP id OAA01920 for ; Fri, 1 May 1998 14:55:50 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from tibbs@localhost) by sina.hpc.uh.edu (8.7.3/8.7.3) id QAA24820; Fri, 1 May 1998 16:57:47 -0500 (CDT) To: Kitty Smith Cc: majordomo-users@GreatCircle.COM Subject: Re: majordomo 1.93 and sendmail 8.9 References: <354A3D53.126BFF72@twsuvm.uc.twsu.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 (generated by tm-edit 7.100) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII From: Jason L Tibbitts III Date: 01 May 1998 16:57:47 -0500 In-Reply-To: Kitty Smith's message of "Fri, 01 May 1998 16:23:32 -0500" Message-ID: Lines: 13 X-Mailer: Gnus v5.6.9/Emacs 19.34 Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk >>>>> "KS" == Kitty Smith writes: KS> [...] but when I do that sendmail will not run. It says /path/to/lists KS> is unrecognized. You're not being literal there, are you? If you're really getting '/path/to/lists' I suspect that something was not configured correctly. (Barring the possible but unlikely situation that your lists really do live in /path/to/lists.) BTW, 1.93 is really, really old. 1.94.4 is current. - J< From majordomo-users-owner Fri May 1 16:52:23 1998 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-970926-1) id QAA04220; Fri, 1 May 1998 16:51:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ihot.com (ns.ihot.com [207.211.186.2]) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-980202-1) with ESMTP id QAA04213 for ; Fri, 1 May 1998 16:51:29 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ihot.com (ossetra.ihot.com [207.211.186.182]) by ihot.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id RAA16893 for ; Fri, 1 May 1998 17:03:27 -0700 Message-ID: <354A6050.87E9D08F@ihot.com> Date: Fri, 01 May 1998 16:52:48 -0700 From: Jeff Halper Organization: Internet Hotline X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en]C-NECCK (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: majordomo-users@greatcircle.com Subject: Web-based archive - How do I set it up? Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk I couldnt find information in the FAQ - Does anyone know how to set up a web-based archive so people can sift through messages by author or thread on a web interface? Thanks for any advice- -Jeff -- JEFF HALPER Internet Hotline * POB 5787 * San Jose CA 95150 http://www.ihot.com mailto:jeff@ihot.com 408/881-1000 Fax 408/293-3456 From majordomo-users-owner Fri May 1 18:08:08 1998 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-970926-1) id SAA05114; Fri, 1 May 1998 18:00:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: from gate.spunge.org (gate.spunge.org [209.100.228.73]) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-980202-1) with ESMTP id SAA05103 for ; Fri, 1 May 1998 18:00:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: from window.spunge.org (window.spunge.org [209.100.228.74]) by gate.spunge.org (8.8.8/8.8.5) with SMTP id UAA13420; Fri, 1 May 1998 20:02:02 -0500 Message-Id: <3.0.1.32.19980501200201.0084b6f0@anduin.eldar.org> X-Sender: ben@anduin.eldar.org X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.1 (32) Date: Fri, 01 May 1998 20:02:01 -0500 To: Jeff Halper From: Benji Spencer Subject: Re: Pricing question/survey Cc: majordomo-users@GreatCircle.COM In-Reply-To: <354A009C.BCB03C1C@ihot.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk Jeff >I'm curious to know how much some of you charge for hosting Majordomo >lists. > >I'm an ISP in northern California, just installed majordomo, and want to >develop a pricing that is fair for our web host clients to have mailing >lists. My situation is a bit different from yours. I help with Majordomo at eldar.org, and run it at spunge.org. Both are based on the same idea. Why pay for something, when it doesn't take that much to do it. Majordomo is provided free to us, and we provide free Majordomo services to people. Yes, this could turn into a mess, and we look at the size of list, and how often somethign is posted, because bandwidth is/can get expensive. Both sites are run off of a simple 28.8 link. No, not fast, but works as long as people don't want something "right now" You, as an ISP, might try to take a different approach to this. You need to break even, and even make a little for system upgrades. You might want to look around at what others offer. I believe spark net is well priced, and well liked. You might also want to somehow limit this to, only those using your system can have a mailing list (possibly free of charge?), or something like that. We often get requests of joe and bob who want to set up a list for some such subject. They are two people, with no money to back them. They usually request small lists, but never know how much they will grow. These don't seem to be much of a problem, as they are usually not high bandwidth. The ones in the 1000+ member might be a little different. Benji (:----------------------Benji Spencer--------------------------:) spunge@enteract.com http://www.enteract.com/~spunge spunge@ripco.com http://www.ripco.com/~spunge ben@anduin.eldar.org http://anduin.eldar.org/~ben From majordomo-users-owner Fri May 1 18:58:59 1998 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-970926-1) id SAA05759; Fri, 1 May 1998 18:14:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: (mcb@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-980202-1) id SAA05742 for majordomo-users@greatcircle.com; Fri, 1 May 1998 18:14:35 -0700 (PDT) Received: from atle.abc.se (atle.abc.se [192.36.170.16]) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-980202-1) with ESMTP id MAA07702 for ; Tue, 28 Apr 1998 12:33:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (m8698@localhost) by atle.abc.se (8.8.8+Sun/8.8.8) with SMTP id VAA27170; Tue, 28 Apr 1998 21:34:43 +0200 (MET DST) X-Authentication-Warning: atle.abc.se: m8698 owned process doing -bs Date: Tue, 28 Apr 1998 20:34:42 +0100 (MET) From: Mats Dufberg X-Sender: m8698@atle To: George Favvas cc: "Majordomo-Users@GreatCircle.COM" Subject: Re: Can subscribe/unsubscribe but can't send mail to my list : Unknown mailer error 1 In-Reply-To: <353E352F.C512E13@interfusion.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk On Wed, 22 Apr 1998, George Favvas wrote: > When I try to do this the e-mail bounces with the following: > "| /usr/contrib/mh/lib/slocal -user mailroom"... unknown mailer error 1 > > I don't understand what user mailroom has to do with anything. (There is > already a mailroom user on my system whose home directory contains > .forward and .maildelivery files to handle mail for common usernames > under different virtual domain names. Incidentally, I get the exact same > unknown mailer error if I try sending an e-mail to mailroom@localhost) Is user mailroom on the list that you are trying? ----------------------------------------------------------------- Mats Dufberg Mats.Dufberg@abc.se From majordomo-users-owner Fri May 1 18:59:49 1998 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-970926-1) id SAA05844; Fri, 1 May 1998 18:15:19 -0700 (PDT) Received: (mcb@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-980202-1) id SAA05834 for majordomo-users@greatcircle.com; Fri, 1 May 1998 18:15:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: from prescienttech.com (londo.prescienttech.com [199.103.216.62]) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-980202-1) with ESMTP id HAA17511 for ; Wed, 29 Apr 1998 07:56:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: from gkar.prescienttech.com. (gkar.prescienttech.com [111.17.19.1]) by prescienttech.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id KAA18001 for ; Wed, 29 Apr 1998 10:57:53 -0400 From: Rich Pieri To: majordomo-users@greatcircle.com Subject: Re: question about Resend-To: References: <01BD72C2.62C1ECA0@JOE> X-No-Archive: yes Mail-Copies-To: never Date: 29 Apr 1998 10:57:52 -0400 In-Reply-To: Joe Saladino's message of "Tue, 28 Apr 1998 16:26:22 -0700" Message-ID: Lines: 29 X-Mailer: Gnus v5.4.66/Emacs 19.34 Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Joe Saladino writes: > I am using majordomo for mailing lists and when someone wants to be > removed I find that it is difficult to find their address (especially if > it is forwarded to another address). This is why I have a policy of no unsubscription by proxy. Since I have no way of determining that a particular mailbox belongs to a particular person, subscribers must send unsubscription requests using the same mailbox used to subscribe. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 4.0 Business Edition Charset: noconv iQCVAwUBNUc/6J6VRH7BJMxHAQGjMAP/d0Kuhcr2vM7WM8TF4uMapDt8CoBIy4GB KuxLxOLjg61LKZSjoc7wq4ZAkJMTKF9sLRIJJroRdiOZ5OQ2J4sCCs9QlnW/wc/N Nxgxg/jA0kal7cAaWN/pgR4Gd2GjahWOTLbwbZf3Lpb6ey9Vhz4+4NMZpA2nhvv/ ccMSIbSp0ts= =/Rdj -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- Rich Pieri / Warning: pregnant women, the Sysmonster, Unix Wrangler / elderly, and children under 10 Prescient Technologies, Inc. / should avoid prolonged exposure to I speak for myself, not PTI or SWEC / Happy Fun Ball. From majordomo-users-owner Fri May 1 19:02:50 1998 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-970926-1) id SAA05738; Fri, 1 May 1998 18:14:33 -0700 (PDT) Received: (mcb@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-980202-1) id SAA05728 for majordomo-users@greatcircle.com; Fri, 1 May 1998 18:14:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail.wavefront.com (ns.wavefront.com [204.73.244.1]) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-980202-1) with SMTP id LAA05875 for ; Tue, 28 Apr 1998 11:53:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: by mail.wavefront.com (8.6.10/SMI-4.1.R931202) id NAA06183; Tue, 28 Apr 1998 13:58:30 -0500 Message-Id: <199804281858.NAA06183@mail.wavefront.com> Received: from wt-1-26.wavefront.net(206.146.208.172), claiming to be "clift.wavefront.com" via SMTP by ns.wavefront.com, id smtpdAAAa06175; Tue Apr 28 18:58:27 1998 Comments: Authenticated sender is From: "Steven Clift" Organization: Democracies Online To: majordomo-users@GreatCircle.COM Date: Tue, 28 Apr 1998 13:50:53 -0500 Subject: Approving Moderated Messages via Web/E-mail Reply-to: clift@publicus.net CC: support@wavefront.com X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Win32 (v2.54) Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk Greetings Majordomo-Users, My ISP is building a majordomo based "online event" system for me with Majordomo, Majorcool, and MHonArc. So far so good, except that I need one last piece a web-based mechanism to approve moderated posts. I'd like to be able to review the posts waiting in the message que and choose to approve, delete, or edit (maybe not a priority now) them all via the web. This way I can distribute the moderation among some helpers and easily check in when I am frequently on the road. Does anyone have a solution or some code available? Also, is can someone recap how to approve moderated bounces via e-mail in such a way that the original author appears to have sent the message. I know how to "force" approve a message with the additional Subject: header under the approve command, but that won't do for my online events (see: http://www.iaginteractive.com/emfa ). I recall on one list where I could approve with a "pipe" command how could that be set up as well? Thanks, Steven Clift ------------------------------------------------------- Steven Clift - Public Strategies for the Online World 3454 Fremont Ave S T: +1.612.822.8667 Mpls, MN 55408 USA E: clift@publicus.net Consulting and Home Page - http://www.publicus.net Democracies Online - http://www.e-democracy.org/do E-Mail for All - http://www.iaginteractive.com/emfa ------------------------------------------------------- From majordomo-users-owner Fri May 1 19:07:11 1998 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-970926-1) id SAA06389; Fri, 1 May 1998 18:22:43 -0700 (PDT) Received: (mcb@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-980202-1) id SAA06377 for majordomo-users@greatcircle.com; Fri, 1 May 1998 18:22:35 -0700 (PDT) Received: from cs.utah.edu (cs.utah.edu [128.110.4.21]) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-980202-1) with ESMTP id PAA01977 for ; Thu, 30 Apr 1998 15:53:37 -0700 (PDT) Received: from spitfire.cs.utah.edu (spitfire.cs.utah.edu [155.99.208.57]) by cs.utah.edu (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id QAA04725; Thu, 30 Apr 1998 16:55:25 -0600 (MDT) From: Mark Bradakis Received: (from mjb@localhost) by spitfire.cs.utah.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) id QAA05233; Thu, 30 Apr 1998 16:55:24 -0600 (MDT) Date: Thu, 30 Apr 1998 16:55:24 -0600 (MDT) Message-Id: <199804302255.QAA05233@spitfire.cs.utah.edu> To: sl@nashbar.com CC: Majordomo-Users@GreatCircle.COM In-reply-to: <002601bd7487$a453bc40$46b1040c@sl.nashbar.com> Subject: Re: limiting which people can post Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk Look into the "config" command, e.g. send mail to your majordomo with nothing but the line config When majordomo sends back the configuration file for that list, read it. From majordomo-users-owner Fri May 1 19:14:08 1998 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-970926-1) id SAA08216; Fri, 1 May 1998 18:51:30 -0700 (PDT) Received: (mcb@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-980202-1) id SAA08208 for majordomo-users@greatcircle.com; Fri, 1 May 1998 18:51:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: from melia.qut.edu.au (melia.qut.edu.au [131.181.127.2]) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-980202-1) with ESMTP id RAA04695 for ; Thu, 30 Apr 1998 17:51:11 -0700 (PDT) Received: from arts_acad_dan ("port 1056"@kain.acad.arts.qut.edu.au) by melia.qut.edu.au (PMDF V5.1-7 #24969) with SMTP id <01IWIM1KTLHS002IK0@melia.qut.edu.au> for majordomo-users@greatcircle.com; Fri, 1 May 1998 10:55:55 +1000 Received: by localhost with Microsoft MAPI; Fri, 01 May 1998 10:46:22 +1000 Date: Fri, 01 May 1998 10:46:21 +1000 From: Danny Carroll Subject: Help with Moderating. To: "'majordomo-users@greatcircle.com'" Reply-to: "dm.carroll@qut.edu.au" Message-id: <01BD74EE.61CD39C0.dm.carroll@qut.edu.au> Organization: QUT MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet E-mail/MAPI - 8.0.0.4211 Content-type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk Hello, I am new to Majordomo. I have setup the software ok but have trouble with moderation. When I approve a message, it gets resent with My Name in the To: field and BOUNCE....etc in the Subject field. Is there any way to get it resent as the original sender? =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Danny Carroll - CSO Academy of the Arts, QUT Phone (07) 3864-5903 Fax (07) 3864-5569 E-mail dm.carroll@qut.edu.au From majordomo-users-owner Fri May 1 20:22:27 1998 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-970926-1) id UAA11507; Fri, 1 May 1998 20:13:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ncr-sd.SanDiegoCA.NCR.COM (h153-64-251-18.NCR.COM [153.64.251.18]) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-980202-1) with ESMTP id UAA11490 for ; Fri, 1 May 1998 20:13:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: from jabberwocky (jabberwocky.SanDiegoCA.NCR.COM [153.64.69.123]) by ncr-sd.SanDiegoCA.NCR.COM (8.8.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id UAA11526; Fri, 1 May 1998 20:14:27 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199805020314.UAA11526@ncr-sd.SanDiegoCA.NCR.COM> X-Sender: bhoule@www.sandiegoca.ncr.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.0 Date: Fri, 01 May 1998 20:15:41 -0700 To: clift@publicus.net, majordomo-users@GreatCircle.COM From: Bill Houle Subject: Re: Approving Moderated Messages via Web/E-mail Cc: support@wavefront.com In-Reply-To: <199804281858.NAA06183@mail.wavefront.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk At 01:50 PM 4/28/98 -0500, Steven Clift wrote: > >My ISP is building a majordomo based "online event" system for me >with Majordomo, Majorcool, and MHonArc. So far so good, except that >I need one last piece a web-based mechanism to approve moderated >posts. MajorCool 1.3.0 already does this with a supplied patch for Majordomo 1.94.4. >I'd like to be able to review the posts waiting in the message que >and choose to approve, delete, or edit (maybe not a priority now) >them all via the web. Edit via Web is darn near impossible because most browser TEXTAREA support maxxes out under 32k, limiting the size of a posting you can display & modify. --bill From majordomo-users-owner Sat May 2 02:10:35 1998 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-970926-1) id BAA17252; Sat, 2 May 1998 01:53:36 -0700 (PDT) Received: from post.mail.demon.net (post-10.mail.demon.net [194.217.242.39]) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-980202-1) with SMTP id BAA17239; Sat, 2 May 1998 01:53:22 -0700 (PDT) Received: from diffreithiant.demon.co.uk ([193.237.35.207]) by post.mail.demon.net id aa1009326; 2 May 98 8:50 GMT From: Darren Wyn Rees To: list-managers@greatcircle.com Cc: majordomo-users@greatcircle.com Subject: List statistics, time & motions etc Date: Sat, 02 May 1998 08:49:25 GMT Message-ID: <354cd441.2313110@post.demon.co.uk> X-Mailer: Forte Agent 1.5/32.451 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk Before re-inventing the wheel, or going down a more inefficient path than needs be, I'm led to -probe- this question here ... How on earth do *you* experienced list gurus go about collecting/preparing /collating your list statistics for general 'management' decisions? Perhaps that assumes that you all collect such figures, I don't know, I honestly haven't had to think about this beyond today... Where I find myself picking up a calculator and doing a few simple sums on a Wordprocessor. And realising, I'd really really love to aim for more in-depth statistics... how many unique posts, how much mail has zipped/trundled thru this system, how many subscribers, how many lurkers, movement on last month (hey, it's the 2nd of May today :), queries answered and, perhaps, statistical analysis of how people join/leave, time devoted to answering queries... I'm sure you get the picture : I want some sort of 'list management balance sheet'. Do I really need these figures? Well, yes, as I think it's opened my eyes to some 'odd' things : I'm looking at figures that say that one list has three times as much posting activity compared to a list with twice as many subscribers ... and I'm working out 'why is that'. That said, I'd still much like *your* opinion on the matter. Any of your feedback, comments on this quite general question of list-management, is most gratefully appreciated. (I'm off to dig up my old account books out as I'm sure they'll help give me some broad tips on this type of resource 'allocation' activity). I've CCed this message to majordomo-users, (although I use Mj, yes I'm aware this is not a majordomo-specific question). Sincerely, -- Darren Wyn Rees Email merlin@merlin.netlink.co.uk From majordomo-users-owner Sat May 2 06:52:24 1998 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-970926-1) id GAA23788; Sat, 2 May 1998 06:43:06 -0700 (PDT) Received: from behemoth.tamu.edu (BEHEMOTH.TAMU.EDU [128.194.44.99]) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-980202-1) with ESMTP id GAA23781; Sat, 2 May 1998 06:43:00 -0700 (PDT) From: psittler@behemoth.tamu.edu Received: from localhost (psittler@localhost) by behemoth.tamu.edu (8.8.8/8.7.3) with SMTP id HAA05211; Sat, 2 May 1998 07:45:14 -0500 Date: Sat, 2 May 1998 07:45:14 -0500 (CDT) To: Darren Wyn Rees cc: list-managers@GreatCircle.COM, majordomo-users@GreatCircle.COM Subject: Re: List statistics, time & motions etc In-Reply-To: <354cd441.2313110@post.demon.co.uk> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk On Sat, 2 May 1998, Darren Wyn Rees wrote: > Do I really need these figures? Well, yes, as I think it's > opened my eyes to some 'odd' things : I'm looking at figures > that say that one list has three times as much posting activity > compared to a list with twice as many subscribers ... and I'm > working out 'why is that'. That said, I'd still much like > *your* opinion on the matter. So be it. This will sound like an oversimplification, but. . . People are different. People behave differently. Lists are different. People on lists behave differently. Some lists are seasonal. Some lists die. All people do. > Sincerely, > -- > Darren Wyn Rees Email merlin@merlin.netlink.co.uk And now, for a little bit of the wisdom of the ages. . . "We trained hard, but it seemed that every time we were beginning to form up into teams, we would be reorganized. I was to learn later in life, that we tend to meet any new situation by reorganizing, and what a wonderful method it can be for creating the illusion of progress, while only producing confusion, inefficiency, and demoralization." --- Petronius Gaius (The Arbiter) 60 A.D. --- ------- Paul M. Sittler (root) | / / (_)__ __ ____ __ | The choice Leviathan System Admin | / /__/ / _ \/ // /\ \/ / | of a GNU email: p-sittler@tamu.edu | /____/_/_//_/\_,_/ /_/\_\ | Generation Phone: 409 845-9689 A 486 is a terrible thing to waste. Pager: 409 759-1258 A 386SX is a terrible thing. From majordomo-users-owner Sat May 2 15:07:22 1998 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-970926-1) id OAA00700; Sat, 2 May 1998 14:59:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: from gsulaw.gsu.edu (gsulaw.Gsu.EDU [131.96.159.141]) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-980202-1) with ESMTP id OAA00693 for ; Sat, 2 May 1998 14:59:19 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (lawppw@localhost) by gsulaw.gsu.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id SAA07044; Sat, 2 May 1998 18:01:26 -0400 Date: Sat, 2 May 1998 18:01:26 -0400 (EDT) From: Patrick Wiseman Reply-To: Patrick Wiseman To: Bill Houle cc: clift@publicus.net, majordomo-users@GreatCircle.COM, support@wavefront.com Subject: Re: Approving Moderated Messages via Web/E-mail In-Reply-To: <199805020314.UAA11526@ncr-sd.SanDiegoCA.NCR.COM> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk On Fri, 1 May 1998, Bill Houle wrote: :Edit via Web is darn near impossible because most browser TEXTAREA support :maxxes out under 32k, limiting the size of a posting you can display & modify. I've routinely edited 100+k files in Netscape's TEXTAREA -- are you sure the limit is not imposed by something else, e.g. cgi-lib.pl (which I've modified to permit larger file sizes) or another CGI library? Patrick From majordomo-users-owner Sat May 2 15:33:14 1998 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-970926-1) id PAA01208; Sat, 2 May 1998 15:19:49 -0700 (PDT) Received: (mcb@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-980202-1) id PAA01198 for majordomo-users@greatcircle.com; Sat, 2 May 1998 15:19:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: from home.samurai.com (samurai.reptiles.org [198.96.117.149]) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-980202-1) with ESMTP id NAA29740 for ; Fri, 1 May 1998 13:45:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from bryanf@localhost) by home.samurai.com (8.8.8/8.8.7) id QAA28155; Fri, 1 May 1998 16:47:52 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <19980501164751.A21349@samurai.com> Date: Fri, 1 May 1998 16:47:51 -0400 From: Bryan Fullerton To: Tim Connolly , "majordomo-users@GreatCircle.COM" Subject: Re: Adding users to a list auto? References: <354A30E1.96D6FA1@mountain.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.92.4i In-Reply-To: <354A30E1.96D6FA1@mountain.net>; from Tim Connolly on Fri, May 01, 1998 at 04:30:25PM -0400 Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk On Fri, May 01, 1998 at 04:30:25PM -0400, Tim Connolly wrote: > Has anyone been able to use "adduser" to create an account and add the email > address to a mailing list ? On many OSs, "adduser" is just a perl or shell script - adding someone to a list is rather trivial, just add in a line to have it mail a subscribe message to majordomo (and make sure adduser isn't readable by users, since it'll have the list password in plaintext [unless you get really fancy]). I'd be able to give you a more specific answer if I knew which *NIX you're using. Bryan -- bryanf@samurai.com Home "You know, sometimes I just want to bryanf@canoe.ca Work be a chicken." - Master FehHead bryanf@icomm.ca http://www.icomm.ca http://www.feh.net From majordomo-users-owner Sat May 2 15:37:20 1998 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-970926-1) id PAA01169; Sat, 2 May 1998 15:19:04 -0700 (PDT) Received: (mcb@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-980202-1) id PAA01158 for majordomo-users@greatcircle.com; Sat, 2 May 1998 15:19:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: from atle.abc.se (atle.abc.se [192.36.170.16]) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-980202-1) with ESMTP id CAA14080 for ; Fri, 1 May 1998 02:56:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (m8698@localhost) by atle.abc.se (8.8.8+Sun/8.8.8) with SMTP id LAA25482; Fri, 1 May 1998 11:58:33 +0200 (MET DST) X-Authentication-Warning: atle.abc.se: m8698 owned process doing -bs Date: Fri, 1 May 1998 10:58:32 +0100 (MET) From: Mats Dufberg X-Sender: m8698@atle To: "Olusegun O. Ogidan" cc: majordomo-users@GreatCircle.COM Subject: Re: SENDING BOUNCED MAILS TO THE LIST In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk On Thu, 30 Apr 1998, Olusegun O. Ogidan wrote: > I tried using the REPLY function in PINE, but it hasn't worked. Any > other ideas? Where in the header do I APPROVE the mail for forwarding to > the list? Any help will be thankfully appreciated. Select forward and remove everything that pine adds before and after the forwarded mail (your signature, forward mark etc.). Remove the first set of headers, i.e. those that came with bouce message, but do not remove any of the headers of the original message. Write Approved: PASSWD on the very first line. Make sure that the first header field comes one the second line (no empty lines in between). Everything is documented in the list owners information included in the distribution. ----------------------------------------------------------------- Mats Dufberg Mats.Dufberg@abc.se From majordomo-users-owner Sat May 2 15:38:51 1998 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-970926-1) id PAA01243; Sat, 2 May 1998 15:20:15 -0700 (PDT) Received: (mcb@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-980202-1) id PAA01231 for majordomo-users@greatcircle.com; Sat, 2 May 1998 15:20:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mailer.data.net.mx (correo.data.net.mx [200.13.16.5]) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-980202-1) with ESMTP id QAA04222 for ; Fri, 1 May 1998 16:51:51 -0700 (PDT) Received: from unityplaza (t1s7.data.net.mx [200.13.17.16]) by mailer.data.net.mx (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id SAA27108 for ; Fri, 1 May 1998 18:52:04 -0600 (CST) From: "UnityCom" To: Subject: about aliases and mcool setup... Date: Fri, 1 May 1998 19:01:35 -0600 Message-ID: <000301bd7565$da4762a0$10110dc8@unityplaza> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Importance: Normal Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk Hi I have currently installed majordomo 1.94.4 with majorcool 1.3 on a Linux (Redhat 4.2), I am trying to set a virtual majordomo, everything from the html interface provided form majorcool, works if you issue command by means of major cool I am able to create, browse, modify delete, lists, subscribe and unsubscribe users... I am even able request majordomo to send the config files, apply changes to them, can do every available interaction with majordomo but only by use of major cool interface, my aliases are being set correctly, but when I send commands I just don't receive any response from majordomo, and all mails get bounced to the account that holds all email not previously set up with its own email box.... Please if you have any ideas or an address you cud point me to research answers I would thank you very much as I seem to have every thing right but it just will not work .... Thanks in advanced for your time.... Francisco From majordomo-users-owner Sat May 2 15:44:14 1998 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-970926-1) id PAA01224; Sat, 2 May 1998 15:20:02 -0700 (PDT) Received: (mcb@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-980202-1) id PAA01211 for majordomo-users@greatcircle.com; Sat, 2 May 1998 15:19:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: from bc.mountain.net (BC.Mountain.Net [198.77.1.35]) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-980202-1) with ESMTP id NAA29887 for ; Fri, 1 May 1998 13:54:26 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mountain.net (tec.Mountain.Net [198.77.1.37]) by bc.mountain.net (8.8.7/8.8.5) with ESMTP id QAA23341; Fri, 1 May 1998 16:56:23 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <354A36B2.45D16B28@mountain.net> Date: Fri, 01 May 1998 16:55:15 -0400 From: Tim Connolly Organization: Mountain.Net, Inc. X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Bryan Fullerton CC: "majordomo-users@GreatCircle.COM" Subject: Re: Adding users to a list auto? References: <354A30E1.96D6FA1@mountain.net> <19980501164751.A21349@samurai.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk Bryan Fullerton wrote: > On Fri, May 01, 1998 at 04:30:25PM -0400, Tim Connolly wrote: > > Has anyone been able to use "adduser" to create an account and add the email > > address to a mailing list ? > > On many OSs, "adduser" is just a perl or shell script - adding someone to a > list is rather trivial, just add in a line to have it mail a subscribe message to > majordomo (and make sure adduser isn't readable by users, since it'll have the > list password in plaintext [unless you get really fancy]). > > I'd be able to give you a more specific answer if I knew which *NIX you're using. > Enough said, my only problem is my sys-admin wants to be able to add users who dial into certain pops into certain mailing lists... Now I just need to mod adduser to ask the person creating the account which pop this account will call. Thanks for the info. -- Tim Connolly tec@mountain.net MountainNet, Inc. -- (304) 594-9075 ext. 37 2816 Cranberry Square -- fax (304) 594-9088 Morgantown, WV 26505 -- My signatures are getting longer and longer.. -- If you really want to see it... http://mountain.net/~tec From majordomo-users-owner Sat May 2 15:45:34 1998 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-970926-1) id PAA01195; Sat, 2 May 1998 15:19:40 -0700 (PDT) Received: (mcb@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-980202-1) id PAA01185 for majordomo-users@greatcircle.com; Sat, 2 May 1998 15:19:37 -0700 (PDT) Received: from bart.wral-tv.com (bart.wral-tv.com [199.72.70.1]) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-980202-1) with ESMTP id LAA26703 for ; Fri, 1 May 1998 11:27:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (priebe@localhost) by bart.wral-tv.com (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id OAA01694 for ; Fri, 1 May 1998 14:29:17 -0400 (EDT) Date: Fri, 1 May 1998 14:29:13 -0400 (EDT) From: "Jason S. Priebe" Reply-To: priebe@wral-tv.com To: majordomo-users@greatcircle.com Subject: ANNOUNCE: automagic, a bounce handling script Message-ID: Organization: WRAL OnLine MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: MULTIPART/MIXED; BOUNDARY="-951564799-999893166-894047353=:29661" Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk This message is in MIME format. The first part should be readable text, while the remaining parts are likely unreadable without MIME-aware tools. Send mail to mime@docserver.cac.washington.edu for more info. ---951564799-999893166-894047353=:29661 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- OK -- at the risk of public humiliation, I am posting my first pass at a bounce-handling script. I call it "automagic". It seems to work fairly well, although it could be better in a number of ways: - batching the unsubscribe requests so that you only get one response from majordomo - cleaner, more efficient parsing of fatal error messages -- I've just used a bunch of actual bouncebacks from various mail servers to hack together this code - when it tries to unsubscribe, if the unsubscribe fails for whatever reason (for example, a user might subscribe as "joeblow@att.net", but the bounceback will use "joeblow@worldnet.att.net", and thus the unsubscribe will fail), it would be nice to get the full bounceback message so that you could better track down the offending address. I welcome any comments or criticism. Here's the lowdown on the program from its internal documentation. automagic is a rough-cut at a script to handle bouncebacks to a majordomo mailing list. It can identify a variety of different messages, including registered mail and vacation auto-responses as well as actual delivery failure bouncebacks. It ignores auto-responses and non-fatal warnings, attempts to parse the failure messages to unsubscribe users automatically, and if it fails to completely identify the contents of the message, it forwards the message to a designated address. automagic is a rough-cut at a script to handle bouncebacks to a majordomo mailing list. It can identify a variety of different messages, including registered mail and vacation auto-responses as well as actual delivery failure bouncebacks. It ignores the auto-responses, attempts to parse the failure messages to unsubscribe users automatically, and if it fails to completely identify the contents of the message, it forwards the message to a designated address. To use automagic, you need to configure it with the location of sendmail on your system (modify the line below). 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tm-edit 7.100) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII From: Jason L Tibbitts III Date: 02 May 1998 18:04:24 -0500 In-Reply-To: Darren Wyn Rees's message of "Sat, 02 May 1998 08:49:25 GMT" Message-ID: Lines: 13 X-Mailer: Gnus v5.6.9/Emacs 19.34 Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk >>>>> "DWR" == Darren Wyn Rees writes: DWR> How on earth do *you* experienced list gurus go about DWR> collecting/preparing /collating your list statistics for general DWR> 'management' decisions? You might want to start with something like logmail, which you can grab from ftp.hpc.uh.edu in /pub/majordomo. It generates some useful reports about top posters and subjects and distribution of messages per day and per hour of the day. It is not list-specific; you just pipe messages to it or run it over an mbox file. - J< From majordomo-users-owner Sat May 2 17:52:18 1998 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-970926-1) id RAA05490; Sat, 2 May 1998 17:39:53 -0700 (PDT) Received: from darius.concentric.net (darius.concentric.net [207.155.184.79]) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-980202-1) with ESMTP id RAA05483 for ; Sat, 2 May 1998 17:39:48 -0700 (PDT) Received: from newman.concentric.net (newman.concentric.net [207.155.184.71]) by darius.concentric.net (8.8.8/(98/04/23 5.10)) id UAA11424; Sat, 2 May 1998 20:42:02 -0400 (EDT) [1-800-745-2747 The Concentric Network] Received: from voyager.cris.com (voyager.concentric.net [206.173.119.82]) by newman.concentric.net (8.8.8) id UAA03298; Sat, 2 May 1998 20:42:02 -0400 (EDT) Date: Sat, 2 May 1998 20:42:01 -0400 (EDT) From: "Olusegun O. Ogidan" X-Sender: Valtd1@voyager.cris.com To: majordomo-users@greatcircle.com Subject: PRICING Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk In response to an MSG on how to PRICE E-Mail Hosting Services, the following web address was given: http://www.awg.org/resources/faws/pricefaq.html I went to this site and WAS UNABLE to locate the right URL. Did I type in the address incorrectly? Many thanks for anticipated answers! Sincerely, Olusegun O. Ogidan From majordomo-users-owner Sat May 2 21:52:24 1998 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-970926-1) id VAA08796; Sat, 2 May 1998 21:37:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nancy.downcity.net (nancy.downcity.net [199.105.120.3]) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-980202-1) with ESMTP id VAA08788 for ; Sat, 2 May 1998 21:37:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: from bofh.downcity.net (bofh.downcity.net [199.105.120.13]) by nancy.downcity.net (8.8.6/8.8.6) with SMTP id AAA18394 for ; Sun, 3 May 1998 00:43:53 -0400 Message-Id: X-Sender: szarka@mail.downcity.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.0 Date: Sun, 03 May 1998 00:43:57 -0400 To: majordomo-users@GreatCircle.COM From: Robert Szarka Subject: reply_to/resend_host Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk I have a vexing little problem.. Frankly, I'm not positive it's majordomo and not sendmail, but maybe someone can help, as I've RTFM'ed and I'm still at a loss... I'm setting up majordomo 1.94.4 on a host with the canonical name 'nancy.downcity.net' and an alias of 'lists.downcity.net' (amongst others). Whatever I try, I can't get the Reply-To:, Sender:, etc. addresses to use 'lists' instead of 'nancy'. :( I have following lines in my config file for the list 'test': reply_to = test resend_host = lists.downcity.net sender = owner-test and in /etc/aliases the list is configured as: test: "|/home/majordomo/wrapper resend -l test -h lists.downcity.net test-outgoing" (without wrapping, of course). But I still get the following in the messages from the list: >To: test@nancy.downcity.net >From: Robert Szarka >Subject: Re: test In-Reply-To: References: <3.0.3.32.19980502231050.03113e8c@mail.downcity.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" >Sender: owner-test@nancy.downcity.net Precedence: bulk >Reply-To: test@nancy.downcity.net Help! Robert Szarka Managing Partner, Operations DownCity, LLC +1 860 823 3000 From majordomo-users-owner Sun May 3 02:37:19 1998 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-970926-1) id CAA15453; Sun, 3 May 1998 02:31:58 -0700 (PDT) Received: from atle.abc.se (atle.abc.se [192.36.170.16]) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-980202-1) with ESMTP id CAA15446 for ; Sun, 3 May 1998 02:31:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (m8698@localhost) by atle.abc.se (8.8.8+Sun/8.8.8) with SMTP id LAA09490; Sun, 3 May 1998 11:34:06 +0200 (MET DST) X-Authentication-Warning: atle.abc.se: m8698 owned process doing -bs Date: Sun, 3 May 1998 10:34:05 +0100 (MET) From: Mats Dufberg X-Sender: m8698@atle To: Robert Szarka cc: majordomo-users@GreatCircle.COM Subject: Re: reply_to/resend_host In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk On Sun, 3 May 1998, Robert Szarka wrote: > I'm setting up majordomo 1.94.4 on a host with the canonical name > 'nancy.downcity.net' and an alias of 'lists.downcity.net' (amongst others). > Whatever I try, I can't get the Reply-To:, Sender:, etc. addresses to use > 'lists' instead of 'nancy'. :( Look att sendmails configuration for "masquerading". ----------------------------------------------------------------- Mats Dufberg Mats.Dufberg@abc.se From majordomo-users-owner Sun May 3 09:07:19 1998 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-970926-1) id JAA22945; Sun, 3 May 1998 09:00:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: from smultron.com (smultron.com [192.41.19.90]) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-980202-1) with ESMTP id JAA22936 for ; Sun, 3 May 1998 09:00:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: from daw (56K-099.MaxTNT4.pdq.net [209.144.230.99]) by smultron.com (8.8.5) id LAA25904; Sun, 3 May 1998 11:02:35 -0500 (CDT) Reply-To: From: "david a wahlstrom" To: Subject: Archives Date: Sun, 3 May 1998 10:59:13 -0500 Message-ID: <004e01bd76ac$6ae3ac00$63e690d1@daw> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Importance: Normal Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk Good day! Would someone be kind enough to share a portion of a properly "archived" archive file so I can learn what it should look like? Thanks Dave Wahlstrom daw@usa.net Prof DA Wahlström JD MS F.ASCE Originator, Swedes emailing list From majordomo-users-owner Sun May 3 20:52:19 1998 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-970926-1) id UAA04554; Sun, 3 May 1998 20:43:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: from send1d.yahoomail.com (send1d.yahoomail.com [205.180.60.48]) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-980202-1) with SMTP id UAA04547 for ; Sun, 3 May 1998 20:43:38 -0700 (PDT) From: lewst@yahoo.com Message-ID: <19980504034126.19979.rocketmail@send1d.yahoomail.com> Received: from [207.205.175.162] by send1d; Sun, 03 May 1998 20:41:26 PDT Date: Sun, 3 May 1998 20:41:26 -0700 (PDT) Subject: reverse taboo? To: majordomo-users@GreatCircle.COM MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk Greetings. Is there anyway to do the reverse of taboo_body or taboo_headers with Majordomo 1.94? That is, to set the list up so that if NO lines of the body or headers match a certain regexp the message will be bounced for review? For example, a submitted message must have the word "diamond" in it's subject, or else it is bounced for review. _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com From majordomo-users-owner Sun May 3 21:26:41 1998 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-970926-1) id VAA05189; Sun, 3 May 1998 21:21:26 -0700 (PDT) Received: from sina.hpc.uh.edu (Sina.HPC.UH.EDU [129.7.3.5]) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-980202-1) with ESMTP id VAA05177 for ; Sun, 3 May 1998 21:21:19 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from tibbs@localhost) by sina.hpc.uh.edu (8.7.3/8.7.3) id XAA24817; Sun, 3 May 1998 23:23:59 -0500 (CDT) To: lewst@yahoo.com Cc: majordomo-users@GreatCircle.COM Subject: Re: reverse taboo? References: <19980504034126.19979.rocketmail@send1d.yahoomail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 (generated by tm-edit 7.100) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII From: Jason L Tibbitts III Date: 03 May 1998 23:23:58 -0500 In-Reply-To: lewst@yahoo.com's message of "Sun, 3 May 1998 20:41:26 -0700 (PDT)" Message-ID: Lines: 21 X-Mailer: Gnus v5.6.9/Emacs 19.34 Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk >>>>> "l" == lewst writes: l> Is there anyway to do the reverse of taboo_body or taboo_headers with l> Majordomo 1.94? Sorry to say, there isn't really. l> For example, a submitted message must have the word "diamond" in it's l> subject, or else it is bounced for review. For just a limited match like that and assuming you are running perl5, you might be able to get it to work using some the negative lookahead assertion but I'm not sure how to do this. A long time ago I posted a message which dealt with something like this which you can find at , but I'm not really sure it applies. This feature is in alpha versions of the next release; the taboo_header line would be '!/Subject:.*diamond/i'. - J< From majordomo-users-owner Sun May 3 22:37:20 1998 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-970926-1) id WAA06998; Sun, 3 May 1998 22:28:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail.ocs.com.au (ppp0.ocs.com.au [203.34.97.3]) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-980202-1) with SMTP id WAA06972 for ; Sun, 3 May 1998 22:28:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 25726 invoked by uid 502); 4 May 1998 05:30:59 -0000 Message-ID: <19980504053059.25724.qmail@mail.ocs.com.au> Received: (qmail 25712 invoked from network); 4 May 1998 05:30:53 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ocs3-tac.tacnet) (192.168.254.3) by mail.ocs.com.au with SMTP; 4 May 1998 05:30:53 -0000 From: Keith Owens To: Jason L Tibbitts III Cc: majordomo-users@GreatCircle.COM Subject: Sequencing mail Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Mon, 04 May 1998 15:30:50 +1000 Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk On 28 Mar 1998 01:23:49 -0600, Jason L Tibbitts III wrote >(Yes, sequence numbers are in there now; you can put them in >subject_prefix or message_headers and perhaps soon message_f(ron|oo)ters.) 1.94.4 has contrib/sequencer which is back level compared to the current resend, in any case sequencer only does subject_prefix. man resend claims that resend -n will sequence, again only for subject_prefix. However there is no code in 1.94.4 resend to do this, it does not even accept the -n option. So how to get sequence numbers, preferably in headers or footers, not just the subject line? From majordomo-users-owner Sun May 3 23:09:13 1998 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-970926-1) id WAA07414; Sun, 3 May 1998 22:48:49 -0700 (PDT) Received: from sina.hpc.uh.edu (Sina.HPC.UH.EDU [129.7.3.5]) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-980202-1) with ESMTP id WAA07407 for ; Sun, 3 May 1998 22:48:41 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from tibbs@localhost) by sina.hpc.uh.edu (8.7.3/8.7.3) id AAA25474; Mon, 4 May 1998 00:51:17 -0500 (CDT) To: Keith Owens Cc: majordomo-users@GreatCircle.COM Subject: Re: Sequencing mail References: <19980504053059.25725.qmail@mail.ocs.com.au> Mime-Version: 1.0 (generated by tm-edit 7.100) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII From: Jason L Tibbitts III Date: 04 May 1998 00:51:16 -0500 In-Reply-To: Keith Owens's message of "Mon, 04 May 1998 15:30:50 +1000" Message-ID: Lines: 24 X-Mailer: Gnus v5.6.9/Emacs 19.34 Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk >>>>> "KO" == Keith Owens writes: KO> On 28 Mar 1998 01:23:49 -0600, Jason L Tibbitts III KO> wrote That's a pretty old message; I don't remember everything I said in it. >> (Yes, sequence numbers are in there now; you can put them in >> subject_prefix or message_headers and perhaps soon >> message_f(ron|oo)ters.) I was referring to development releases of Majordomo2, not to any currently released code. KO> So how to get sequence numbers, preferably in headers or footers, not KO> just the subject line? If you're running 1.94.x, you don't. Not without much hacking, at least. If you want to test Majordomo2, you really should be a member of majordomo-workers. Then you say "hey, I'll test Mj2 if you let me put sequence numbers in fronters and footers" and I spend a few minutes and put them in. But that's really off topic for this list. - J< From majordomo-users-owner Mon May 4 05:52:28 1998 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-970926-1) id FAA16937; Mon, 4 May 1998 05:41:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: from rehtori.kasanen.fi (rehtori.kasanen.fi [193.65.180.248]) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-980202-1) with ESMTP id FAA16927 for ; Mon, 4 May 1998 05:41:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (zulander@localhost) by rehtori.kasanen.fi (8.8.6/8.8.6) with SMTP id PAA03371 for ; Mon, 4 May 1998 15:57:39 +0200 Date: Mon, 4 May 1998 15:57:37 +0200 (GMT+0200) From: Ed Rogers Reply-To: Ed Rogers To: Majordomo-Users@GreatCircle.COM Subject: Assistance in Setting up a Digest? Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk Hello all. I have been reading a trying to get my first digested list set up after many of my list users started asking for one. Well, I have no idea what I am doing and even with all the documentation I have read I have yet to feel confident enough to convert a list into a digest. I need to have some coaching from some of you in order to get it set up right. I would appreciate any honest help! :) Please help me convert this plain list into a digest. I have never done a digest before and I would love to have some help from all of you. Below you will see my existing alaises and where I have my digest and archive directory. ###### ## test ###### test: "|/home/majordom/majordomo-1.94.3/wrapper resend -p bulk -M 80000 -l test -f test-owner -h my.host.com -s test-outgoing" owner-test: test-owner test-owner: me@my.host.com test-outgoing::include:/home/majordom/majordomo-1.94.3/lists/test owner-test-outgoing: test-owner test-request: "|/home/majordom/majordomo-1.94.3/wrapper request-answer test" owner-test-request: test-owner church-test-approval: "test-owner" owner-test-owner: test-owner I have my digest/ and archive directory here: mybox:/home/majordom> ls -l total 3 -rw-rw-r-- 1 majordom majordom 0 Jun 5 1996 $log drwxr-xr-x 2 majordom majordom 1024 May 4 15:15 archive/ drwxr-xr-x 2 majordom majordom 1024 May 4 15:15 digest/ drwxr-x--x 8 majordom majordom 1024 May 4 15:35 majordomo-1.94.3/ >From majdordomo.cf: # $digest_work_dir -- the parent directory for digest's queue area # Each list must have a subdirectory under this directory in order for # digest to work. E.G. The bblisa list would use: # /usr/local/mail/digest/bblisa # as its directory. # $digest_work_dir = "/home/majordom/digest"; ,/%$@#%$@#%$@#%$@#%$@#%$@#%$@#%$@#%$@#%$@#%$@#%$@#%\, $ Ed "Pooka/Zulander" Rogers $ #( http://www.netsonic.fi/~zulander/ )# #( Learning Revolutionist & Internet Specialist )# $ ed.rogers@bigfoot.com $ `\%$@#%$@#%$@#%$@#%$@#%$@#%$@#%$@#%$@#%$@#%$@#%$@#%/' From majordomo-users-owner Mon May 4 07:22:30 1998 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-970926-1) id HAA18232; Mon, 4 May 1998 07:19:40 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail.cis.ohio-state.edu (mail.cis.ohio-state.edu [164.107.8.55]) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-980202-1) with SMTP id HAA18225 for ; Mon, 4 May 1998 07:19:35 -0700 (PDT) Received: from stumble.cis.ohio-state.edu (stumble.cis.ohio-state.edu [164.107.128.12]) by mail.cis.ohio-state.edu (8.6.7/8.6.4) with ESMTP id KAA20121; Mon, 4 May 1998 10:21:40 -0400 Message-Id: <199805041421.KAA20121@mail.cis.ohio-state.edu> To: priebe@wral-tv.com cc: majordomo-users@GreatCircle.COM Subject: Re: ANNOUNCE: automagic, a bounce handling script In-reply-to: Your message of "Fri, 01 May 1998 14:29:13 EDT." Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Mon, 04 May 1998 10:21:39 -0400 From: Dave Barr Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk > thelist-owner: "|/usr/local/etc/majordomo/automagic thelist R4JHxY priebe Putting the list password in the aliases file for any local user to read or for anyone in the world to see with EXPN (if not disabled) is not an acceptable situation. There's no need to supply the list password -- automagic should be able to just read it given the list name. Put automagic under the wrapper. --Dave From majordomo-users-owner Mon May 4 07:38:08 1998 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-970926-1) id HAA18296; Mon, 4 May 1998 07:23:16 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pulsar.univ-valenciennes.fr (pulsar.univ-valenciennes.fr [193.50.192.1]) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-980202-1) with ESMTP id HAA18288 for ; Mon, 4 May 1998 07:23:09 -0700 (PDT) From: petit@univ-valenciennes.fr Received: from flore (root@flore [193.50.192.8]) by pulsar.univ-valenciennes.fr (8.8.8/jtpda-5.3) with SMTP id QAA12056 for ; Mon, 4 May 1998 16:27:01 +0100 (WET DST) Received: from localhost by flore; (5.65v3.2/1.1.8.2/02Feb96-1223PM) id AA22263; Mon, 4 May 1998 16:22:09 +0100 Message-Id: <9805041522.AA22263@flore> To: majordomo-users@GreatCircle.COM Cc: petit@flore.univ-valenciennes.fr Subject: Open list with restricted souscription Date: Mon, 04 May 98 16:22:08 +0100 X-Mts: smtp Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk ============= Hello Everyone , I will create an open list which authorizes only the souscription of users of a precis domain (for example only the users who have an email users@univ-valenciennes.fr ) . How can do it ? Thanks jlp From majordomo-users-owner Mon May 4 07:50:20 1998 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-970926-1) id HAA18418; Mon, 4 May 1998 07:28:04 -0700 (PDT) Received: from bart.wral-tv.com (bart.wral-tv.com [199.72.70.1]) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-980202-1) with ESMTP id HAA18411 for ; Mon, 4 May 1998 07:27:55 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (priebe@localhost) by bart.wral-tv.com (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id KAA27619; Mon, 4 May 1998 10:30:12 -0400 (EDT) Date: Mon, 4 May 1998 10:30:08 -0400 (EDT) From: "Jason S. Priebe" Reply-To: priebe@wral-tv.com To: Dave Barr cc: majordomo-users@GreatCircle.COM Subject: Re: ANNOUNCE: automagic, a bounce handling script In-Reply-To: <199805041421.KAA20121@mail.cis.ohio-state.edu> Message-ID: Organization: WRAL OnLine MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- On Mon, 4 May 1998, Dave Barr wrote: > > thelist-owner: "|/usr/local/etc/majordomo/automagic thelist R4JHxY priebe > > Putting the list password in the aliases file for any local user to > read or for anyone in the world to see with EXPN (if not disabled) > is not an acceptable situation. Good suggestion. The environment we're running under gives us some latitude -- we've disabled EXPN, and we consider all of our small group of users to be trusted. One thing I wanted to do was to keep automagic fast... you'll notice it doesn't use or require any external files. I didn't want the overhead of reading in the majordomo config files. I suppose I could define a hash of passwords within automagic, although this would require editing automagic each time you add a list. - -------------------------------------------------- Jason Priebe WRAL OnLine priebe@wral-tv.com Raleigh, NC see http://www.wral-tv.com/~priebe/ for public key -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6.2 iQCVAwUBNU3Q8uqkj/9w/z2hAQHLSgQAqr1RZt0AcAX7NfhtQWiJw6MKIJyC0UYG ts4X+Tm+1JwbKLlZq1xGTuP0cDmQ7rAG5hBLw9FB1SqhUP93KgdZF0+S9wBid7oY 5XS8fqFhXcpu4uU7SNeU0nvX2r9MK+bA2Jdf8xSlaQuieZwUa33gIypEIhq+TPPV 74Ml6wASZZA= =18C0 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From majordomo-users-owner Mon May 4 09:52:56 1998 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-970926-1) id JAA21222; Mon, 4 May 1998 09:42:30 -0700 (PDT) Received: from acunet.net ([208.203.130.2]) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-980202-1) with ESMTP id JAA21214 for ; Mon, 4 May 1998 09:42:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: from otispc (otispc.acunet.net [208.203.130.53]) by acunet.net (8.8.7/8.8.4) with SMTP id MAA15940; Mon, 4 May 1998 12:44:31 -0400 (EDT) From: "Otis Gospodnetic" To: , "Dave Barr" Cc: Subject: Re: ANNOUNCE: automagic, a bounce handling script Date: Mon, 4 May 1998 12:35:17 -0500 Message-ID: <01bd7783$00cae540$3582cbd0@otispc.acunet.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.71.1712.3 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.71.1712.3 Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk > One thing I wanted to do was to keep automagic fast... you'll notice it > doesn't use or require any external files. I didn't want the overhead of > reading in the majordomo config files. I suppose I could define a hash > of passwords within automagic, although this would require editing > automagic each time you add a list. I'll take the convenience of having automagic read the .majordomo file into a hash over inconvenience of editing automagic every time a new list is added, passwords are changed, etc. Otis From majordomo-users-owner Mon May 4 10:11:37 1998 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-970926-1) id KAA21844; Mon, 4 May 1998 10:00:18 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nancy.downcity.net (nancy.downcity.net [199.105.120.3]) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-980202-1) with ESMTP id KAA21782 for ; Mon, 4 May 1998 10:00:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: from bofh.downcity.net (bofh.downcity.net [199.105.120.13]) by nancy.downcity.net (8.8.6/8.8.6) with SMTP id NAA17524 for ; Mon, 4 May 1998 13:07:03 -0400 Message-Id: X-Sender: szarka@mail.downcity.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.0 Date: Mon, 04 May 1998 13:06:38 -0400 To: majordomo-users@GreatCircle.COM From: Robert Szarka Subject: Re: reply_to/resend_host In-Reply-To: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk At 10:34 AM 5/3/98 +0100, Mats Dufberg wrote: >> I'm setting up majordomo 1.94.4 on a host with the canonical name >> 'nancy.downcity.net' and an alias of 'lists.downcity.net' (amongst= others). >>=A0 Whatever I try, I can't get the Reply-To:, Sender:, etc. addresses to= use >> 'lists' instead of 'nancy'.=A0 :( > >Look att sendmails configuration for "masquerading". Thanks, Matt. It took a while to track down the exact command I needed, but that put me on the right track! For anyone curious, the answer was to add DM lists.downcity.net to my sendmail.cf. (My .cf was generated with limited masquerading turned= on, apparently, otherwise it should have been caught from my CW file.) Robert Szarka Managing Partner, Operations DownCity, LLC +1 860 823 3000 From majordomo-users-owner Mon May 4 10:22:56 1998 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-970926-1) id KAA21855; Mon, 4 May 1998 10:00:29 -0700 (PDT) Received: from spsem02.sps.mot.com ([192.70.231.5]) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-980202-1) with SMTP id KAA21846 for ; Mon, 4 May 1998 10:00:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mogate.sps.mot.com by spsem02.sps.mot.com (4.1/SMI-4.1/Email 2.1 10/25/93) id AA14725 for majordomo-users@greatcircle.com; Mon, 4 May 98 10:02:41 MST Received: from nombre.risc.sps.mot.com by mogate.sps.mot.com (4.1/SMI-4.1/Email-2.0) id AA29460 for majordomo-users@greatcircle.com; Mon, 4 May 98 10:00:43 MST Received: from miaow.risc.sps.mot.com (miaow.risc.sps.mot.com [223.72.249.15]) by nombre.risc.sps.mot.com (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id LAA07768; Mon, 4 May 1998 11:59:39 -0500 (CDT) Received: (from dwolfe@localhost) by miaow.risc.sps.mot.com (8.7.1/8.7.3) id MAA16642; Mon, 4 May 1998 12:01:22 -0500 Message-Id: <19980504120121.54635@risc.sps.mot.com> Date: Mon, 4 May 1998 12:01:22 -0500 From: Dave Wolfe To: chwang@sunset.backbone.olemiss.edu Cc: "Majordomo user's mailing list" Subject: Re: passwd command References: <354DEE81.6AD7043B@olemiss.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.89.1i In-Reply-To: <354DEE81.6AD7043B@olemiss.edu>; from haibo wang on Mon, May 04, 1998 at 11:36:18AM -0500 Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk [ Followups redirected to majordomo-users ] [ haibo wang writes: ] > The command "passwd list old_passwd new_passwd" didnot change the > password for admin_passwd or approve_passwd but create a file name > [listname].passwd. The list owner still be able to use old password to > admin. the list without new password. Is there any command to change > admin_passwd or approve_passwd instead of create a file of new password? Yes, it's called 'config' and 'newconfig'. FWIW, all my Mj installations have a read-only file containing a "master password" for the entire site linked into each of the .passwd files. That way I always have a password (as majordomo-owner for the site) and it keeps list owners from fooling themselves with the 'passwd' command. -- Dave Wolfe From majordomo-users-owner Mon May 4 10:52:25 1998 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-970926-1) id KAA23691; Mon, 4 May 1998 10:48:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ns2.hps-inc.com (ns2.hps-inc.com [204.167.91.2]) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-980202-1) with ESMTP id KAA23684 for ; Mon, 4 May 1998 10:48:26 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [204.167.91.219] (thavens-mac.hps-inc.com [204.167.91.219]) by ns2.hps-inc.com (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id NAA03989 for ; Mon, 4 May 1998 13:50:59 -0400 Message-Id: <199805041750.NAA03989@ns2.hps-inc.com> X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express for Macintosh - 4.0c (197) Date: Mon, 04 May 1998 14:02:57 -0400 From: "Tim Havens" To: Majordomo-Users@greatcircle.com Mime-version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 Content-type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk I've just installed Majordomo-1.94.4 on a Linux box running 2.0.30 Slackware and sendmail 8.8.7. I haven't found a description or example of a list configuration file *.config anywhere... I'd like to create some lists, but I don't know the syntax of the *.config files that go in ./lists Any help would be great. Tim Havens thavens@hps-inc.com From majordomo-users-owner Mon May 4 12:22:38 1998 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-970926-1) id MAA25864; Mon, 4 May 1998 12:18:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ncr-sd.SanDiegoCA.NCR.COM (h153-64-251-18.NCR.COM [153.64.251.18]) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-980202-1) with ESMTP id MAA25850 for ; Mon, 4 May 1998 12:18:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: from jabberwocky (jabberwocky.SanDiegoCA.NCR.COM [153.64.69.123]) by ncr-sd.SanDiegoCA.NCR.COM (8.8.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id MAA11746; Mon, 4 May 1998 12:20:52 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199805041920.MAA11746@ncr-sd.SanDiegoCA.NCR.COM> X-Sender: bhoule@www.sandiegoca.ncr.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.0 Date: Mon, 04 May 1998 12:14:53 -0700 To: "UnityCom" , From: Bill Houle Subject: Re: about aliases and mcool setup... In-Reply-To: <000301bd7565$da4762a0$10110dc8@unityplaza> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk At 07:01 PM 5/1/98 -0600, UnityCom wrote: > >I am even able request majordomo to send the config >files, apply changes to them, can do every available interaction with >majordomo but only by use of major cool interface, my aliases are being set >correctly, but when I send commands I just don't receive any response from >majordomo, and all mails get bounced to the account that holds all email not >previously set up with its own email box.... Then I would contend that your aliases are NOT set up correctly. MajorCool invokes Majordomo directly rather than routing via mail. If the 'Cool side is working but the 'domo side is not, then it is because you have not tied Majordomo to the mail system with the proper aliases. --bill From majordomo-users-owner Mon May 4 12:37:38 1998 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-970926-1) id MAA25863; Mon, 4 May 1998 12:18:48 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ncr-sd.SanDiegoCA.NCR.COM (h153-64-251-18.NCR.COM [153.64.251.18]) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-980202-1) with ESMTP id MAA25849 for ; Mon, 4 May 1998 12:18:38 -0700 (PDT) Received: from jabberwocky (jabberwocky.SanDiegoCA.NCR.COM [153.64.69.123]) by ncr-sd.SanDiegoCA.NCR.COM (8.8.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id MAA11716; Mon, 4 May 1998 12:20:48 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199805041920.MAA11716@ncr-sd.SanDiegoCA.NCR.COM> X-Sender: bhoule@www.sandiegoca.ncr.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.0 Date: Mon, 04 May 1998 12:09:30 -0700 To: Patrick Wiseman From: Bill Houle Subject: Re: Approving Moderated Messages via Web/E-mail Cc: majordomo-users@GreatCircle.COM In-Reply-To: References: <199805020314.UAA11526@ncr-sd.SanDiegoCA.NCR.COM> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk At 06:01 PM 5/2/98 -0400, Patrick Wiseman wrote: >On Fri, 1 May 1998, Bill Houle wrote: > >:Edit via Web is darn near impossible because most browser TEXTAREA support >:maxxes out under 32k, limiting the size of a posting you can display & modify. > >I've routinely edited 100+k files in Netscape's TEXTAREA -- are you sure >the limit is not imposed by something else, e.g. cgi-lib.pl (which I've >modified to permit larger file sizes) or another CGI library? There could be "external forces" at play; I don't know for sure. But since (in my tests) the NN3 max was 26k and IE3 was 32k (on the same exact task), I just assumed it was a browser dependency and not the server, OS, network, etc. --bill From majordomo-users-owner Mon May 4 17:54:53 1998 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-970926-1) id RAA02141; Mon, 4 May 1998 17:46:35 -0700 (PDT) Received: from acunet.net ([208.203.130.2]) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-980202-1) with ESMTP id RAA02134 for ; Mon, 4 May 1998 17:46:29 -0700 (PDT) Received: from tobago (xpool5.acunet.net [208.208.7.5]) by acunet.net (8.8.7/8.8.4) with SMTP id UAA22517 for ; Mon, 4 May 1998 20:49:02 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <001901bd77bf$8a5929c0$0507d0d0@tobago.acunet.net> From: "Otis Gospodnetic" To: Subject: MJ err - curious Date: Mon, 4 May 1998 20:48:36 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.2106.4 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk Hi, I'm just wondering what causes MJ to report this kind of error: MAJORDOMO ABORT (mj_majordomo)!! Majordomo@dominis.com punting to avoid mail loop Thanks Otis. -- The eZines Database -- http://www.dominis.com/Zines/ From majordomo-users-owner Mon May 4 18:52:24 1998 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-970926-1) id SAA03445; Mon, 4 May 1998 18:47:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: from uhura.concentric.net (uhura.concentric.net [206.173.119.93]) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-980202-1) with ESMTP id SAA03438 for ; Mon, 4 May 1998 18:46:55 -0700 (PDT) Received: from cliff.concentric.net (cliff [206.173.119.90]) by uhura.concentric.net (8.8.8/(98/04/23 5.10)) id VAA23639; Mon, 4 May 1998 21:49:30 -0400 (EDT) [1-800-745-2747 The Concentric Network] Received: from viking.cris.com (viking.concentric.net [206.173.119.81]) by cliff.concentric.net (8.8.8) id VAA28291; Mon, 4 May 1998 21:49:30 -0400 (EDT) Date: Mon, 4 May 1998 21:49:30 -0400 (EDT) From: "Olusegun O. Ogidan" X-Sender: Valtd1@viking.cris.com To: majordomo-users@greatcircle.com Subject: SET NOMAIL Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk Hi Listers: Is it possible to invoke the SET NOMAIL command on majordomo-users list? I sent the command to the majordomo-users-request@greatcircle.com and DID NOT get a good response. I also sent it to majordomo@greatcircle.com typing set majordomo-users nomail and got no good response either. What did I do wrong? Many thanks! I need to SET NOMAIL because I am off for a vacation. Sincerely, Olusegun O. Ogidan From majordomo-users-owner Mon May 4 19:39:24 1998 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-970926-1) id TAA04383; Mon, 4 May 1998 19:32:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: from sina.hpc.uh.edu (Sina.HPC.UH.EDU [129.7.3.5]) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-980202-1) with ESMTP id TAA04376 for ; Mon, 4 May 1998 19:32:26 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from tibbs@localhost) by sina.hpc.uh.edu (8.7.3/8.7.3) id VAA14534; Mon, 4 May 1998 21:35:12 -0500 (CDT) To: "Otis Gospodnetic" Cc: Subject: Re: MJ err - curious References: <001901bd77bf$8a5929c0$0507d0d0@tobago.acunet.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 (generated by tm-edit 7.100) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII From: Jason L Tibbitts III Date: 04 May 1998 21:35:12 -0500 In-Reply-To: "Otis Gospodnetic"'s message of "Mon, 4 May 1998 20:48:36 -0400" Message-ID: Lines: 9 X-Mailer: Gnus v5.6.9/Emacs 19.34 Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk >>>>> "OG" == Otis Gospodnetic writes: OG> MAJORDOMO ABORT (mj_majordomo)!! OG> Majordomo@dominis.com punting to avoid mail loop Majordomo won't reply to itself (or any other address which matches $majordomo_dont_reply). - J< From majordomo-users-owner Mon May 4 19:47:06 1998 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-970926-1) id TAA04392; Mon, 4 May 1998 19:33:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: from sina.hpc.uh.edu (Sina.HPC.UH.EDU [129.7.3.5]) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-980202-1) with ESMTP id TAA04385 for ; Mon, 4 May 1998 19:33:19 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from tibbs@localhost) by sina.hpc.uh.edu (8.7.3/8.7.3) id VAA14543; Mon, 4 May 1998 21:36:09 -0500 (CDT) To: "Olusegun O. Ogidan" Cc: majordomo-users@GreatCircle.COM Subject: Re: SET NOMAIL References: Mime-Version: 1.0 (generated by tm-edit 7.100) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII From: Jason L Tibbitts III Date: 04 May 1998 21:36:09 -0500 In-Reply-To: "Olusegun O. Ogidan"'s message of "Mon, 4 May 1998 21:49:30 -0400 (EDT)" Message-ID: Lines: 12 X-Mailer: Gnus v5.6.9/Emacs 19.34 Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk >>>>> "OOO" == Olusegun O Ogidan writes: OOO> Is it possible to invoke the SET NOMAIL command on majordomo-users list? We call it 'leaving the list'. Majordomo doesn't preserve per-user state; either you're on the list or you're not. OOO> I need to SET NOMAIL because I am off for a vacation. Then leave the list, and rejoin when you come back. - J< From majordomo-users-owner Mon May 4 20:22:23 1998 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-970926-1) id UAA05378; Mon, 4 May 1998 20:12:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: from acunet.net ([208.203.130.2]) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-980202-1) with ESMTP id UAA05371 for ; Mon, 4 May 1998 20:12:29 -0700 (PDT) Received: from tobago (xpool66.acunet.net [208.208.7.66]) by acunet.net (8.8.7/8.8.4) with SMTP id XAA27588 for ; Mon, 4 May 1998 23:15:05 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <005e01bd77d3$f0a398a0$4207d0d0@tobago.acunet.net> From: "Otis Gospodnetic" To: Subject: Re: MJ err - curious Date: Mon, 4 May 1998 23:14:38 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.2106.4 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk Smart :) does this mean that somebody tried subscribing our majordomo address to one of our majordomo lists? Thanks Otis -- The eZines Database -- http://www.dominis.com/Zines/ -----Original Message----- From: Jason L Tibbitts III To: Otis Gospodnetic Cc: majordomo-users@GreatCircle.COM Date: Monday, May 04, 1998 10:35 PM Subject: Re: MJ err - curious >>>>>> "OG" == Otis Gospodnetic writes: > >OG> MAJORDOMO ABORT (mj_majordomo)!! >OG> Majordomo@dominis.com punting to avoid mail loop > >Majordomo won't reply to itself (or any other address which matches >$majordomo_dont_reply). > > - J< > From majordomo-users-owner Mon May 4 21:11:38 1998 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-970926-1) id UAA05795; Mon, 4 May 1998 20:37:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: from sina.hpc.uh.edu (Sina.HPC.UH.EDU [129.7.3.5]) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-980202-1) with ESMTP id UAA05787 for ; Mon, 4 May 1998 20:37:19 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from tibbs@localhost) by sina.hpc.uh.edu (8.7.3/8.7.3) id WAA15380; Mon, 4 May 1998 22:40:11 -0500 (CDT) To: Subject: Re: MJ err - curious References: <005e01bd77d3$f0a398a0$4207d0d0@tobago.acunet.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 (generated by tm-edit 7.100) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII From: Jason L Tibbitts III Date: 04 May 1998 22:40:11 -0500 In-Reply-To: "Otis Gospodnetic"'s message of "Mon, 4 May 1998 23:14:38 -0400" Message-ID: Lines: 10 X-Mailer: Gnus v5.6.9/Emacs 19.34 Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk >>>>> "OG" == Otis Gospodnetic writes: OG> does this mean that somebody tried zubscribing our majordomo address to one OG> of our majordomo lists? Probably not; it would be produced from an errant bounce message sent to your Majordomo address, or (as is commonly seen) you added a job to Majordomo's crontab to kick off a digest periodically. - J< From majordomo-users-owner Mon May 4 21:12:40 1998 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-970926-1) id UAA05874; Mon, 4 May 1998 20:39:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: (mcb@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-980202-1) id UAA05864 for majordomo-users@greatcircle.com; Mon, 4 May 1998 20:38:58 -0700 (PDT) Received: from admin4.hsc.uth.tmc.edu (admin4.hsc.uth.tmc.edu [129.106.9.4]) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-980202-1) with ESMTP id NAA29267 for ; Sat, 2 May 1998 13:18:22 -0700 (PDT) Received: from admin89 ([129.106.9.89]) by admin4.hsc.uth.tmc.edu (Netscape Messaging Server 3.5) with ESMTP id 233 for ; Sat, 2 May 1998 15:21:38 -0500 Message-ID: <354B800D.33B71B91@admin4.hsc.uth.tmc.edu> Date: Sat, 02 May 1998 15:20:30 -0500 From: "Stephen Ford" Reply-To: sford@admin4.hsc.uth.tmc.edu Organization: The University of Texas Health Science Center - Houston X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.01 [en] (WinNT; U) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Majordomo-Users@GreatCircle.COM Subject: Help !! X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk Hello, I've just installed Majordomo-1.94.4 on a Digital Unix 4.0 machine. It seems that the install went okay but I can not get any return mail. When I make a request such as "lists" it get s recorded to the Log. Even when I subscribe to a list it seems to work. It adds the address to the list and the command is logged. I just can't get any return mail confirming my commands. Does any one have any ideas? Thanks! -- STEPHEN R. FORD The University of Texas Health Science Center - Houston Phone - 713.500.2263 sford@admin4.hsc.uth.tmc.edu http://www.hsc.uth.tmc.edu/~sford From majordomo-users-owner Mon May 4 22:22:19 1998 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-970926-1) id WAA09032; Mon, 4 May 1998 22:19:04 -0700 (PDT) Received: from kens.com (kens.com [204.245.172.117]) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-980202-1) with ESMTP id WAA09025 for ; Mon, 4 May 1998 22:18:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: from kens.com (kens.com [204.245.172.117]) by kens.com (8.8.8/8.8.5) with SMTP id BAA15482 for ; Tue, 5 May 1998 01:21:35 -0400 (EDT) Date: Tue, 5 May 1998 01:21:35 -0400 (EDT) From: Ken Woods To: Majordomo-Users@GreatCircle.COM Subject: MRTG to track # of messges served??? In-Reply-To: <354B800D.33B71B91@admin4.hsc.uth.tmc.edu> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk Subject pretty says it all. Is anybody running MRTG to track the number of messages that majordomo is sending out??? Jesus, I'm bored. -- Ken Woods kwoodskens.com From majordomo-users-owner Mon May 4 22:37:28 1998 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-970926-1) id WAA09402; Mon, 4 May 1998 22:36:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: from hpsdlo.sdd.hp.com (hpsdlo.sdd.hp.com [15.255.160.64]) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-980202-1) with ESMTP id WAA09395 for ; Mon, 4 May 1998 22:36:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: from hpsdly.sdd.hp.com (hpsdly.sdd.hp.com [15.26.144.61]) by hpsdlo.sdd.hp.com (8.8.6/8.8.5tis+epg) with ESMTP id WAA11669; Mon, 4 May 1998 22:38:38 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (disser@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hpsdly.sdd.hp.com with ESMTP (8.7.6/8.7.3 TIS 5.0/sdd epg) id WAA08683; Mon, 4 May 1998 22:38:37 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199805050538.WAA08683@hpsdly.sdd.hp.com> To: priebe@wral-tv.com cc: majordomo-users@GreatCircle.COM Subject: Re: ANNOUNCE: automagic, a bounce handling script In-reply-to: Your message of "Fri, 01 May 1998 14:29:13 EDT." Date: Mon, 04 May 1998 22:38:37 -0700 From: Dave Disser Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk Message dated Friday, 1 May 1998, 2:29pm EDT from ""Jason S. Priebe" " > OK -- at the risk of public humiliation, I am posting my first pass at > a bounce-handling script. I call it "automagic". It seems to work > fairly well, although it could be better in a number of ways: Great idea. However, if your sendmail supports EXPN, anyone could find out the password for your mailing list fairly easily, not to mention your local users.... --Dave From majordomo-users-owner Mon May 4 23:22:21 1998 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-970926-1) id XAA09985; Mon, 4 May 1998 23:19:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: from sina.hpc.uh.edu (Sina.HPC.UH.EDU [129.7.3.5]) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-980202-1) with ESMTP id XAA09978 for ; Mon, 4 May 1998 23:19:06 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from tibbs@localhost) by sina.hpc.uh.edu (8.7.3/8.7.3) id BAA17230; Tue, 5 May 1998 01:21:53 -0500 (CDT) To: Ken Woods Cc: Majordomo-Users@GreatCircle.COM Subject: Re: MRTG to track # of messges served??? References: Mime-Version: 1.0 (generated by tm-edit 7.100) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII From: Jason L Tibbitts III Date: 05 May 1998 01:21:53 -0500 In-Reply-To: Ken Woods's message of "Tue, 5 May 1998 01:21:35 -0400 (EDT)" Message-ID: Lines: 10 X-Mailer: Gnus v5.6.9/Emacs 19.34 Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk >>>>> "KW" == Ken Woods writes: KW> Is anybody running MRTG to track the number of messages that majordomo KW> is sending out??? I've seen one such site, but unfortunately I simply can't remember it right now. You might want to check out the list-managers archives; I think that's where I saw the site mentioned. - J< From majordomo-users-owner Tue May 5 03:37:26 1998 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-970926-1) id DAA16675; Tue, 5 May 1998 03:25:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: from post.mail.demon.net (post-11.mail.demon.net [194.217.242.40]) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-980202-1) with SMTP id DAA16663 for ; Tue, 5 May 1998 03:25:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: from (etheral.demon.co.uk) [194.222.133.71] by post.mail.demon.net with esmtp (Exim 1.82 #2) id 0yWewj-0002JZ-00; Tue, 5 May 1998 11:27:38 +0100 Received: from localhost (steve@localhost) by etheral.demon.co.uk (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id LAA00616 for ; Tue, 5 May 1998 11:23:18 +0100 Date: Tue, 5 May 1998 11:23:18 +0100 (BST) From: Steve Sutton To: majordomo-users@greatcircle.com Subject: Re: SET NOMAIL In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk On 4 May 1998, Jason L Tibbitts III wrote: > OOO> I need to SET NOMAIL because I am off for a vacation. > Then leave the list, and rejoin when you come back. I'll tell you what though, it would be nice to have an 'away' or 'suspend' command, that prevents any mail from being forwarded for x number of days, and then automatically starts sending information, afterwards. -- Steve Sutton sutton@bcs.org.uk "# I caused a major war, just by talking" http://www.etheral.demon.co.uk Steve@etheral.demon.co.uk All opinions expressed are my own, and not representitive of The British Computer Society, or Demon Internet Ltd. From majordomo-users-owner Tue May 5 08:13:53 1998 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-970926-1) id IAA21502; Tue, 5 May 1998 08:04:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: from sina.hpc.uh.edu (Sina.HPC.UH.EDU [129.7.3.5]) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-980202-1) with ESMTP id IAA21495 for ; Tue, 5 May 1998 08:04:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from tibbs@localhost) by sina.hpc.uh.edu (8.7.3/8.7.3) id KAA24132; Tue, 5 May 1998 10:07:22 -0500 (CDT) To: majordomo-users@GreatCircle.COM Subject: Re: SET NOMAIL References: Mime-Version: 1.0 (generated by tm-edit 7.100) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII From: Jason L Tibbitts III Date: 05 May 1998 10:07:22 -0500 In-Reply-To: Steve Sutton's message of "Tue, 5 May 1998 11:23:18 +0100 (BST)" Message-ID: Lines: 9 X-Mailer: Gnus v5.6.9/Emacs 19.34 Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk >>>>> "SS" == Steve Sutton writes: SS> I'll tell you what though, it would be nice to have an 'away' or SS> 'suspend' command, [...] Then you should join majordomo-workers and help us. Hint: most of this is already in Majordomo2 alpha. - J< From majordomo-users-owner Tue May 5 08:14:32 1998 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-970926-1) id HAA21034; Tue, 5 May 1998 07:45:54 -0700 (PDT) Received: from sapphire.newearth.org (sapphire.newearth.org [207.106.58.1]) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-980202-1) with ESMTP id HAA21025 for ; Tue, 5 May 1998 07:45:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: from sapphire.newearth.org (michael@sapphire.newearth.org [207.106.58.1]) by sapphire.newearth.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id KAA18621 for ; Tue, 5 May 1998 10:48:27 -0400 Date: Tue, 5 May 1998 10:48:27 -0400 (EDT) From: Michael David To: majordomo-users@greatcircle.com Subject: virtual domains & digests Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk I have some virtual domains on one machine, and they each have their own set of majordomo lists. Majordomo has been installed just once. Majordomo and resend are called with a different .cf file depending on the domain the mail is sent to. Everything was fine until I tried making digests. At that point, it became evident that majordomo's "mkdigest" command calls the "digest" program, which offers the choice of using the global config file and the list config file (-C -l listname), or the choice of using one alternative config file (-c config). Wouldn't it make sense to have "digest" inherit the global configuration from the "majordomo" that called it? Should I: 1) run different majordomo programs with different uids and home directories, so that they can each find ~/majordomo.cf? 2) add the .cf file for the virtual site to each list.config file, and use digest -c listname? Yours, Michael -- Michael V. David - MVD53 - michael@newearth.org - mvd@netaxs.com WEB: http://www.netaxs.com/~mvd/ - http://www.newearth.org/~michael IRC: irc.newearth.org #newearth - Earth: 40 07 53 N, 75 04 04 W Quidquid latine dicitur, altum viditur. From majordomo-users-owner Tue May 5 08:37:38 1998 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-970926-1) id IAA22355; Tue, 5 May 1998 08:27:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: from inetarena.com (inetarena.com [206.129.216.1]) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-980202-1) with ESMTP id IAA22340 for ; Tue, 5 May 1998 08:27:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: from inetarena.com (pm3-117.inetarena.com [206.129.216.117]) by inetarena.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA20813 for ; Tue, 5 May 1998 08:29:53 -0700 Message-ID: <354F3090.16474174@inetarena.com> Date: Tue, 05 May 1998 08:30:25 -0700 From: Bruce Neben Reply-To: bneben@inetarena.com X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 (Macintosh; U; PPC) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: majordomo-users@GreatCircle.COM Subject: Non tech Majordomo guide Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; x-mac-type="54455854"; x-mac-creator="4D4F5353" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk Does anyone know of a thorough but non technical guide for Majordomo users? -Bruce From majordomo-users-owner Tue May 5 08:52:46 1998 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-970926-1) id IAA22796; Tue, 5 May 1998 08:52:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: from peak.org (PEAK.ORG [198.68.22.17]) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-980202-1) with ESMTP id IAA22789 for ; Tue, 5 May 1998 08:52:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (sechrest@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by peak.org (8.8.5/8.6.7) with ESMTP id IAA10716; Tue, 5 May 1998 08:54:46 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199805051554.IAA10716@peak.org> To: bneben@inetarena.com Cc: majordomo-users@greatcircle.com Subject: Re: Non tech Majordomo guide In-reply-to: Your message of Tue, 05 May 1998 08:30:25 PDT. <354F3090.16474174@inetarena.com> Date: Tue, 05 May 1998 08:54:45 -0700 From: John Sechrest Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk Bruce Neben writes: % Does anyone know of a thorough but non technical guide for Majordomo % users? No, I don't Can you outline what the issues/constraints on a non-technical guide would be? If we were to create one, what are the things that would make it non-technical and what level would it be presented at? ----- John Sechrest . Helping people use PEAK - . computers and the Internet Public Electronic . more effectively Access to Knowledge,Inc . 850 SW 15th Street . Internet: sechrest@peak.org Corvallis Oregon 97331 . (541) 754-7325 . http://www.peak.org/~sechrest From majordomo-users-owner Tue May 5 09:07:36 1998 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-970926-1) id IAA22746; Tue, 5 May 1998 08:50:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: from corellia.piett.com (h67.ryd.student.liu.se [130.236.239.67]) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-980202-1) with ESMTP id IAA22739 for ; Tue, 5 May 1998 08:50:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (piett@localhost) by corellia.piett.com (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id RAA20778; Tue, 5 May 1998 17:51:18 +0200 Date: Tue, 5 May 1998 17:51:17 +0200 (CEST) From: Henrik Edlund To: Michael David cc: majordomo-users@GreatCircle.COM Subject: Re: virtual domains & digests In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk On Tue, 5 May 1998, Michael David wrote: > I have some virtual domains on one machine, and they each > have their own set of majordomo lists. Majordomo has been > installed just once. Majordomo and resend are called with a > different .cf file depending on the domain the mail is sent > to. > > Everything was fine until I tried making digests. At that > point, it became evident that majordomo's "mkdigest" command > calls the "digest" program, which offers the choice of using > the global config file and the list config file (-C -l > listname), or the choice of using one alternative config > file (-c config). > > Wouldn't it make sense to have "digest" inherit the global > configuration from the "majordomo" that called it? > > Should I: > > 1) run different majordomo programs with different uids and > home directories, so that they can each find ~/majordomo.cf? > > 2) add the .cf file for the virtual site to each list.config > file, and use digest -c listname? Actually if you look at the source of it you see that if the -c parameter is used in conjunction with the -C and -l it works just like the "-C" for the other scripts, that is reading that config file. Even though it states that one should not use -C with -c the script support it and it comes in handy here. But to make the mkdigest command pass the current config to digest with the -c switch you must apply a patch to the majordomo script. I have attached my patch below. To my experience and understanding it won't cause any problems if you don't use virtual hosts so applying it should not cause any problem. --- /usr/local/majordomo/majordomo.orig Sat Apr 4 00:19:11 1998 +++ /usr/local/majordomo/majordomo Sat Apr 25 01:18:15 1998 @@ -1138,7 +1138,7 @@ # The password is valid, so run digest open(DIGEST, - "$homedir/digest -m -C -l $list $list_outgoing 2>&1 |"); + "$homedir/digest -m -c $cf -C -l $list $list_outgoing 2>&1 |"); @digest_errors = ; close(DIGEST); -- Henrik Edlund http://www.piett.com/ or https://www.piett.com/ "They were in the wrong place at the wrong time. Naturally they became heroes." Leia Organa of Alderaan, Senator From majordomo-users-owner Tue May 5 09:52:34 1998 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-970926-1) id JAA23792; Tue, 5 May 1998 09:38:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: from bc.mountain.net (BC.Mountain.Net [198.77.1.35]) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-980202-1) with ESMTP id JAA23784 for ; Tue, 5 May 1998 09:38:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mountain.net (tec.Mountain.Net [198.77.1.37]) by bc.mountain.net (8.8.7/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA19590; Tue, 5 May 1998 12:41:07 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <354F40CE.BD9E2501@mountain.net> Date: Tue, 05 May 1998 12:39:42 -0400 From: Tim Connolly Organization: Mountain.Net, Inc. X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Tim Havens CC: Majordomo-Users@GreatCircle.COM Subject: Re: Blank subject? - Linux question References: <199805041750.NAA03989@ns2.hps-inc.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk If you create a file named "listname" in the lists directory and send a message to majordomo, it will automatically create the config file. I think you will need to give majordomo a config listname command also.. Tim Havens wrote: > Slackware and sendmail 8.8.7. > > I haven't found a description or example of a list configuration file > *.config anywhere... > I'd like to create some lists, but I don't know the syntax of the *.config > files that go in ./lists > Any help would be great. > > Tim Havens > thavens@hps-inc.com -- Tim Connolly tec@mountain.net MountainNet, Inc. -- (304) 594-9075 ext. 37 2816 Cranberry Square -- fax (304) 594-9088 Morgantown, WV 26505 -- My signatures are getting longer and longer.. -- If you really want to see it... http://mountain.net/~tec From majordomo-users-owner Tue May 5 11:38:25 1998 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-970926-1) id LAA26039; Tue, 5 May 1998 11:32:29 -0700 (PDT) Received: from bama.ua.edu (bama.ua.edu [130.160.4.114]) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-980202-1) with ESMTP id LAA26029 for ; Tue, 5 May 1998 11:32:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: from law.ua.edu (smtp.law.ua.edu [130.160.234.253]) by bama.ua.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA15592 for ; Tue, 5 May 1998 13:31:33 -0500 (CDT) Received: from LAW/SpoolDir by law.ua.edu (Mercury 1.40); 5 May 98 13:34:04 -0600 Received: from SpoolDir by LAW (Mercury 1.40); 5 May 98 13:33:56 -0600 From: "Terry Davis" Organization: University of Alabama School of Law To: majordomo-users@greatcircle.com Date: Tue, 5 May 1998 13:33:49 CST Subject: mkdigest command X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (v2.30) Message-ID: Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk I have created a digest for one of my list and would like to force the digest to be sent for testing. The documentation states that that there is an executable, mkdigest. I have searched my entire system and have found no mkdigest file. I am using version 1.94.4. Any ideas? From majordomo-users-owner Tue May 5 12:14:26 1998 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-970926-1) id LAA26657; Tue, 5 May 1998 11:58:55 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ncr-sd.SanDiegoCA.NCR.COM (h153-64-251-18.NCR.COM [153.64.251.18]) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-980202-1) with ESMTP id LAA26647 for ; Tue, 5 May 1998 11:58:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: from jabberwocky (jabberwocky.SanDiegoCA.NCR.COM [153.64.69.123]) by ncr-sd.SanDiegoCA.NCR.COM (8.8.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id MAA12175; Tue, 5 May 1998 12:00:58 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199805051900.MAA12175@ncr-sd.SanDiegoCA.NCR.COM> X-Sender: bhoule@www.sandiegoca.ncr.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.0 Date: Tue, 05 May 1998 11:55:13 -0700 To: bneben@inetarena.com From: Bill Houle Subject: Re: Non tech Majordomo guide Cc: majordomo-users@GreatCircle.COM In-Reply-To: <199805051554.IAA10716@peak.org> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk Bruce Neben writes: > > Does anyone know of a thorough but non technical guide for Majordomo > users? There's about 4 pages dedicated to Majordomo/Listserv in "The Whole Internet User's Guide & Catalog". Very novice & non-techy, but also not very comprehensive. If memory serves, the user's section from "Managing Internet & Information Servers" was better. [Both O'Reilly] You might check the "Dummy" Internet books -- I've never, but I imagine you can't get much more non-techy then that. --bill From majordomo-users-owner Tue May 5 12:29:12 1998 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-970926-1) id MAA27311; Tue, 5 May 1998 12:20:15 -0700 (PDT) Received: from sina.hpc.uh.edu (Sina.HPC.UH.EDU [129.7.3.5]) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-980202-1) with ESMTP id MAA27279 for ; Tue, 5 May 1998 12:19:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from tibbs@localhost) by sina.hpc.uh.edu (8.7.3/8.7.3) id OAA00892; Tue, 5 May 1998 14:22:09 -0500 (CDT) To: "Terry Davis" Cc: majordomo-users@GreatCircle.COM Subject: Re: mkdigest command References: Mime-Version: 1.0 (generated by tm-edit 7.100) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII From: Jason L Tibbitts III Date: 05 May 1998 14:22:09 -0500 In-Reply-To: "Terry Davis"'s message of "Tue, 5 May 1998 13:33:49 CST" Message-ID: Lines: 12 X-Mailer: Gnus v5.6.9/Emacs 19.34 Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk >>>>> "TD" == Terry Davis writes: TD> The documentation states that that there is an executable, mkdigest. It does? I would imagine it's referring to Majordomo's mkdigest command which works like any other Majordomo command: you put it in the body of a message and mail that message to majordomo@your.site. The UNIX way to do this would be something like echo "mkdigest blah blah" | mail majordomo - J< From majordomo-users-owner Tue May 5 15:08:46 1998 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-970926-1) id OAA01387; Tue, 5 May 1998 14:57:49 -0700 (PDT) Received: from bama.ua.edu (bama.ua.edu [130.160.4.114]) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-980202-1) with ESMTP id OAA01380 for ; Tue, 5 May 1998 14:57:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: from law.ua.edu (smtp.law.ua.edu [130.160.234.253]) by bama.ua.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id QAA14800 for ; Tue, 5 May 1998 16:55:04 -0500 (CDT) Received: from LAW/SpoolDir by law.ua.edu (Mercury 1.40); 5 May 98 16:57:36 -0600 Received: from SpoolDir by LAW (Mercury 1.40); 5 May 98 16:57:34 -0600 From: "Terry Davis" Organization: University of Alabama School of Law To: majordomo-users@greatcircle.com Date: Tue, 5 May 1998 16:57:31 CST Subject: digest X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (v2.30) Message-ID: Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk I went through the quick digest setup and seem to be having problems getting the digest feature to work. Will the incomming mail be stored in the $digest_work_dir? I can't seem to find any mail stored for delivery. The mail sent to the -digest list will be sent out to the standard list, but it then seems to go to some black hole. I issue the mkdigest command to force to dump, but I really don't think that here is anything to send. The only response from the mkdigest command is just a confirmation of the command. Just goofing around, I ran wrapper digest -r -C -l name-digest name-digest-outgoing on a command line and then the mkdigest command sent mail discussing the creation of the volume and a blank volume was sent. From majordomo-users-owner Tue May 5 15:38:51 1998 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-970926-1) id PAA02010; Tue, 5 May 1998 15:29:49 -0700 (PDT) Received: from kaori.communique.net (kaori.communique.net [204.27.67.55]) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-980202-1) with ESMTP id PAA02003 for ; Tue, 5 May 1998 15:29:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: by kaori.communique.net with Internet Mail Service (5.0.1458.49) id ; Tue, 5 May 1998 17:30:00 -0500 Message-ID: From: Raul Zighelboim To: "'majordomo-users@greatcircle.com'" Subject: pgp and majordomo Date: Tue, 5 May 1998 17:29:59 -0500 X-Priority: 3 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.0.1458.49) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk Hello there! Is there a script anywhere that would use pgp and majordomo to decrypt a message before piping it to the list members, and reject it if the decritption failed ? Thanks. ================================================== Raul Zighelboim rzig@verio.net From majordomo-users-owner Tue May 5 18:29:42 1998 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-970926-1) id SAA04097; Tue, 5 May 1998 18:12:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: from apollo.albany.net (apollo.albany.net [206.72.192.19]) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-980202-1) with SMTP id SAA04082 for ; Tue, 5 May 1998 18:12:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 6302 invoked from network); 5 May 1998 21:12:58 -0400 Received: from merlin.albany.net (HELO merlin) (anthonyw@206.72.208.11) by apollo.albany.net with SMTP; 6 May 1998 01:12:58 -0000 Date: Tue, 5 May 1998 21:12:57 -0400 (EDT) From: anthonyw X-Sender: anthonyw@merlin To: Steven Clift cc: ListMom-Talk@lists.skylist.net, Majordomo-Users@GreatCircle.COM, mhonarc@rosat.mpe-garching.mpg.de, d.erickson@e-strategy.com, craig@wavefront.com, support@wavefront.com, fritchie@mr.net, masouder@mr.net Subject: Re: Moderating List via Web Interface - MHonArc RC file In-Reply-To: <199804291517.KAA03111@mail.wavefront.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: MULTIPART/MIXED; BOUNDARY="-559023410-851401618-894417177=:13211" Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk This message is in MIME format. The first part should be readable text, while the remaining parts are likely unreadable without MIME-aware tools. Send mail to mime@docserver.cac.washington.edu for more info. ---559023410-851401618-894417177=:13211 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Try this out. It is a bit crude but could prove useful. Background: This script was used with Selena Sols Form Processor public domain script which is available from http://selena.mcp.com/Scripts/. Using the "feedback form" I collected applications to become a member of a mailing list. I tweaked the response subroutine to write out all of the applicant data to a file in a PENDING directory. The datafile was written as a perl program so that I could run it from the command line or "require" it from another script. You could use this as the framework for building a posting approval web interface. For instance, if you are the moderator it it likely that postings are going to be sent to you. With procmail processing, you could copy each posting to its own file in a PENDING area and use the script to display each file for you. Have the script resend approved posts to the proper address. Hopefully this should get you started. YMMV, script provided as is, etc,etc... On Wed, 29 Apr 1998, Steven Clift wrote: > Greetings Majordomo-Users, ListMom, and MHonarc, > > > My ISP is building a majordomo based "online event" system for me with > Majordomo, Majorcool, and MHonArc. So far so good, except that I need > one last piece a web-based mechanism to approve moderated posts. > > I'd like to be able to review the posts waiting in the message que and > choose to approve, delete, or edit (maybe not a priority now) them all > via the web. This way I can distribute the moderation among some > helpers and easily check in when I am frequently on the road. > > Does anyone have a solution or some code available? > > > Also, can someone recap how to approve moderated bounces via > e-mail in such a way that the original author appears to have sent the > message. I know how to "force" approve a message with the additional > Subject: header under the approve command, but that won't do for my > online events (see: http://www.iaginteractive.com/emfa ). I recall > being set up once to be able with Pine approve post to a > moderated list with a "pipe" command - what do I need to ask for in > order to get that set up as well? > > Thanks, > > Steven Clift > > P.S. My web designer is also working with the MHonArc rc file to > bring our sites look and feel into the archive. Does anyone have > some sample rc files they could send us? We are particularly > interest in versions that don't use tables and have taken > accessibility issues into full consideration (they look good in Lynx > etc.). Our online event is on Universal Access to the Internet so we > need to be accessible to all those online. > > > ------------------------------------------------------- > Steven Clift - Public Strategies for the Online World > 3454 Fremont Ave S T: +1.612.822.8667 > Mpls, MN 55408 USA E: clift@publicus.net > Consulting and Home Page - http://www.publicus.net > Democracies Online - http://www.e-democracy.org/do > E-Mail for All - http://www.iaginteractive.com/emfa > ------------------------------------------------------- > %~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~% % Anthony anthonyw@albany.net % %~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~% % "Tetris, an art of maximizing how well things fit together. I am a % % student of that art. 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Wed, 6 May 1998 04:26:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: from neptune.pegasus.cranfield.ac.uk (neptune.pegasus.cranfield.ac.uk [138.250.1.185]) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-980202-1) with SMTP id EAA14688 for ; Wed, 6 May 1998 04:26:48 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nassau.pegasus.cranfield.ac.uk [138.250.1.183] by neptune.pegasus.cranfield.ac.uk with smtp (Exim 1.82 #1) id 0yX2Lv-0003MW-00; Wed, 6 May 1998 12:27:11 +0100 Date: Wed, 6 May 1998 12:27:03 +0100 (BST) From: Jeffrey Goldberg X-Sender: cc047@nassau.pegasus.cranfield.ac.uk Reply-To: Jeffrey Goldberg To: Raul Zighelboim cc: "'majordomo-users@greatcircle.com'" Subject: Re: pgp and majordomo In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Organization: Cranfield University Computer Centre MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk On Tue, 5 May 1998, Raul Zighelboim wrote: > Hello there! > > Is there a script anywhere that would use pgp and majordomo to > decrypt a message before piping it to the list members, and reject it if > the decritption failed ? You might want to look at the PGP:: perl modules on CPAN. Assuming those modules are properly designed, just a script should be a few lines of perl. But no, I haven't done it. -j -- Jeffrey Goldberg +44 (0)1234 750 111 x 2826 Cranfield Computer Centre FAX 751 814 J.Goldberg@Cranfield.ac.uk http://WWW.Cranfield.ac.uk/public/cc/cc047/ Relativism is the triumph of authority over truth, convention over justice. From majordomo-users-owner Wed May 6 06:38:38 1998 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-970926-1) id GAA16607; Wed, 6 May 1998 06:37:17 -0700 (PDT) Received: from scroll.cas.nutecnet.com.br (scroll.cas.nutecnet.com.br [200.245.23.4]) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-980202-1) with ESMTP id GAA16599 for ; Wed, 6 May 1998 06:37:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: from scroll.cas.nutecnet.com.br (stefano@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by scroll.cas.nutecnet.com.br (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id KAA02005 for ; Wed, 6 May 1998 10:37:41 -0300 Message-ID: <355067A5.D1127866@scroll.cas.nutecnet.com.br> Date: Wed, 06 May 1998 10:37:41 -0300 From: Stefano Baldo X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.05 [en] (X11; I; Linux 2.0.33 i586) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Majordomo-Users@GreatCircle.COM Subject: Problems Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk Hello. I'm trying to install majordomo 1.94.4. I use perl 5.004, Linux 2.0.33 and Sendmail 8.8.7. The majordomo is installed in /home/listas/majordomo I put OA/home/listas/majordomo/majordomo.aliases in sendmail.cf When I try to send any message through sendmail, I got this message: hash map "Alias 1": unsafe map file /home/listas/majordomo/majordomo.aliases: No such file or directory /home/listas/majordomo/majordomo.aliases EXISTS and I think it has the right permissions. scroll:/home/listas/majordomo$ ls -l majordomo.aliases -rw-r--r-- 1 listas users 860 May 4 16:35 majordomo.aliases Does anybody can help me, please? Regards, Stefano Baldo Campinas (SP) - Brazil stefano@scroll.cas.nutecnet.com.br From majordomo-users-owner Wed May 6 07:38:52 1998 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-970926-1) id HAA17485; Wed, 6 May 1998 07:30:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: from prescienttech.com (londo.prescienttech.com [199.103.216.62]) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-980202-1) with ESMTP id HAA17447 for ; Wed, 6 May 1998 07:30:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: from gkar.prescienttech.com. (gkar.prescienttech.com [111.17.19.1]) by prescienttech.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id KAA28490 for ; Wed, 6 May 1998 10:30:55 -0400 From: Rich Pieri To: majordomo-users@greatcircle.com Subject: Re: pgp and majordomo References: X-No-Archive: yes Mail-Copies-To: never Date: 06 May 1998 10:30:55 -0400 In-Reply-To: Raul Zighelboim's message of "Tue, 5 May 1998 17:29:59 -0500" Message-ID: Lines: 27 X-Mailer: Gnus v5.4.66/Emacs 19.34 Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Raul Zighelboim writes: > Is there a script anywhere that would use pgp and majordomo to > decrypt a message before piping it to the list members, and reject it if > the decritption failed ? Being a PGP user myself, I have to wonder what the purpose of such a thing would be. The public decryption renders encryption useless. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 4.0 Business Edition Charset: noconv iQCVAwUBNVB0HZ6VRH7BJMxHAQGwZQQApkbONVclUHmhvKqQqYmcZXm4MitHOBxD kzMTp0SvGqCcyARAaU6g6tak4BiSvxMU82YH8a66K/uO+L211JZ0NrxmJ5YWsiID x4+5iDdWfr5GZBwF2VCl8rRMaTJJZD7OQzxcZMYvl6PB5KxuxCQBW9dI0/5gA2B/ Yulg5OepQtM= =6fOQ -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- Rich Pieri / When not in use, Happy Fun Ball Sysmonster, Unix Wrangler / should be returned to its special Prescient Technologies, Inc. / container and kept under I speak for myself, not PTI or SWEC / refrigeration. From majordomo-users-owner Wed May 6 07:53:58 1998 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-970926-1) id HAA17837; Wed, 6 May 1998 07:45:53 -0700 (PDT) Received: from stingray.ivision.co.uk (stingray.ivision.co.uk [195.50.91.40]) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-980202-1) with SMTP id HAA17820 for ; Wed, 6 May 1998 07:45:41 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pretender.ivision.co.uk [195.50.91.43] by stingray.ivision.co.uk with smtp (Exim 1.62 #2) id 0yX5Sv-00017p-00; Wed, 6 May 1998 15:46:37 +0100 Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.19980506154532.0092b700@stingray.ivision.co.uk> X-Sender: manarpop@stingray.ivision.co.uk X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.5 (32) Date: Wed, 06 May 1998 15:45:32 +0100 To: Rich Pieri From: Manar Hussain Subject: Re: pgp and majordomo Cc: majordomo-users@greatcircle.com In-Reply-To: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk >Being a PGP user myself, I have to wonder what the purpose of such a thing >would be. The public decryption renders encryption useless. A good use of PGP is to stop "From" forging. It would be useful for the mailing list to enforce that from line to match with a public pgp key even if the message was then passed on in clear text. Manar From majordomo-users-owner Wed May 6 08:08:47 1998 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-970926-1) id IAA18260; Wed, 6 May 1998 08:03:02 -0700 (PDT) Received: from prescienttech.com (londo.prescienttech.com [199.103.216.62]) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-980202-1) with ESMTP id IAA18253 for ; Wed, 6 May 1998 08:02:56 -0700 (PDT) Received: from gkar.prescienttech.com. (gkar.prescienttech.com [111.17.19.1]) by prescienttech.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id LAA29585 for ; Wed, 6 May 1998 11:03:59 -0400 From: Rich Pieri To: majordomo-users@greatcircle.com Subject: Re: pgp and majordomo References: <3.0.5.32.19980506154532.0092b700@stingray.ivision.co.uk> X-No-Archive: yes Mail-Copies-To: never Date: 06 May 1998 11:03:59 -0400 In-Reply-To: Manar Hussain's message of "Wed, 06 May 1998 15:45:32 +0100" Message-ID: Lines: 31 X-Mailer: Gnus v5.4.66/Emacs 19.34 Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Manar Hussain writes: > A good use of PGP is to stop "From" forging. That is what digital signatures are for. cf: everything I post for examples. Key management is going to be a pain if you use PGP for authentication backended onto Mj itself, and backending a full-blown keyserver onto Mj is probably going to be ugly at best. And it will be a lot of duplicated effort since practically all of your subscribers will have keys for everyone else on the list on their own key rings. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 4.0 Business Edition Charset: noconv iQCVAwUBNVB73Z6VRH7BJMxHAQE6UgP9F6G4aSpTAp2Q4fwb4pNmlwJmsFPPx057 wDF5m6PPFX+mBSWbGPpIM95t/wGHEKY3bNXjJ/43U4EXBHdjYg0IJh51DoCMHJzn yWhk8RgoKbxU5JxbOe9C+ixTg7Zjnbkkh3m7Xbjz5nLKSptrHkiFRlgJs+APigtA c6Y12LyotEQ= =16Sp -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- Rich Pieri / Happy Fun Ball contains a liquid Sysmonster, Unix Wrangler / core, which, if exposed due to Prescient Technologies, Inc. / rupture, should not be touched, I speak for myself, not PTI or SWEC / inhaled, or looked at. From majordomo-users-owner Wed May 6 08:19:03 1998 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-970926-1) id HAA18082; Wed, 6 May 1998 07:57:43 -0700 (PDT) Received: from blkbox.com (blkbox.com [206.109.97.2]) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-980202-1) with ESMTP id HAA18061 for ; Wed, 6 May 1998 07:57:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (smithd@localhost) by blkbox.com (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id JAA08409; Wed, 6 May 1998 09:58:15 -0500 (CDT) Date: Wed, 6 May 1998 09:58:15 -0500 (CDT) From: David Smith To: Rich Pieri cc: majordomo-users@GreatCircle.COM Subject: Re: pgp and majordomo In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk I think your message answered it, with a little more coding you could verify the person sending it. So while you are not using the encryption side of it you would be using the signature side. You wouldn't really have to encrypt it, just sign it. I don't know if this is what the orignal poster intends, but that Is what I have looked at using PGP on lists for, and it is already used for a couple of things using this, liek domain name changes and usenet list updates. On 6 May 1998, Rich Pieri wrote: > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > > Raul Zighelboim writes: > > > Is there a script anywhere that would use pgp and majordomo to > > decrypt a message before piping it to the list members, and reject it if > > the decritption failed ? > > Being a PGP user myself, I have to wonder what the purpose of such a thing > would be. The public decryption renders encryption useless. > > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- > Version: 4.0 Business Edition > Charset: noconv > > iQCVAwUBNVB0HZ6VRH7BJMxHAQGwZQQApkbONVclUHmhvKqQqYmcZXm4MitHOBxD > kzMTp0SvGqCcyARAaU6g6tak4BiSvxMU82YH8a66K/uO+L211JZ0NrxmJ5YWsiID > x4+5iDdWfr5GZBwF2VCl8rRMaTJJZD7OQzxcZMYvl6PB5KxuxCQBW9dI0/5gA2B/ > Yulg5OepQtM= > =6fOQ > -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- > > -- > Rich Pieri / When not in use, Happy Fun Ball > Sysmonster, Unix Wrangler / should be returned to its special > Prescient Technologies, Inc. / container and kept under > I speak for myself, not PTI or SWEC / refrigeration. > > From majordomo-users-owner Wed May 6 08:24:18 1998 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-970926-1) id IAA18553; Wed, 6 May 1998 08:13:19 -0700 (PDT) Received: from quartz.netop.sig.net (quartz.sig.net [199.1.78.227]) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-980202-1) with ESMTP id IAA18546 for ; Wed, 6 May 1998 08:13:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: from roadrunner.sig.net (roadrunner.sig.net [192.195.85.203]) by quartz.netop.sig.net (8.8.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id KAA17482; Wed, 6 May 1998 10:12:59 -0500 (CDT) Date: Wed, 6 May 1998 10:11:31 -0500 (CDT) From: Bob Izenberg To: Rich Pieri cc: majordomo-users@GreatCircle.COM Subject: Re: pgp and majordomo In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk On 6 May 1998, Rich Pieri wrote: # Being a PGP user myself, I have to wonder what the purpose of such a thing # would be. The public decryption renders encryption useless. There still are PGP extensions to some versions of Sendmail around. The goal is encryption and ASCII armoring of the message body. I don't know RZ's specific application, but I can imagine lists with contributors of confidential information transmitting (nervously) from public networks, for distribution to private network subscribers. Bob -- Verio Texas - The National Internet of Texas - http://www.veriotexas.net e-mail: bei@sig.net fax: +1 (512) 306-0702 voice: +1 (512) 306-0700 From majordomo-users-owner Wed May 6 08:33:32 1998 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-970926-1) id IAA18647; Wed, 6 May 1998 08:17:51 -0700 (PDT) Received: from prescienttech.com (londo.prescienttech.com [199.103.216.62]) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-980202-1) with ESMTP id IAA18640 for ; Wed, 6 May 1998 08:17:43 -0700 (PDT) Received: from gkar.prescienttech.com. (gkar.prescienttech.com [111.17.19.1]) by prescienttech.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id LAA29984 for ; Wed, 6 May 1998 11:18:46 -0400 From: Rich Pieri To: majordomo-users@greatcircle.com Subject: Re: pgp and majordomo References: X-No-Archive: yes Mail-Copies-To: never Date: 06 May 1998 11:18:46 -0400 In-Reply-To: Bob Izenberg's message of "Wed, 6 May 1998 10:11:31 -0500 (CDT)" Message-ID: Lines: 28 X-Mailer: Gnus v5.4.66/Emacs 19.34 Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Bob Izenberg writes: > I don't know RZ's specific application, but I can imagine lists with > contributors of confidential information transmitting (nervously) from > public networks, for distribution to private network subscribers. Well, then you certainly do not want decryption to occour anywhere other than on recipients' machines, espeically when remote decryption requires secret keys to be accessible from an insecure network. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 4.0 Business Edition Charset: noconv iQCVAwUBNVB/VJ6VRH7BJMxHAQFjygQAs53PtiIK+87vpK15XRiahr6C9y/Uzv+c r/WhVh1GVkfC7oNe8/8PQd589I31KyqiPYt1lYP5xhDXAFG5KoNyp5CAfnRy5NXd LwLVqLvjWHiu2+HM+QBcrqV0YJcjSDGZ5efpdcBv95ljSfA40CXguobLQCirvf2M ulO7owPX6X0= =mrZh -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- Rich Pieri / Warning: pregnant women, the Sysmonster, Unix Wrangler / elderly, and children under 10 Prescient Technologies, Inc. / should avoid prolonged exposure to I speak for myself, not PTI or SWEC / Happy Fun Ball. From majordomo-users-owner Wed May 6 08:38:46 1998 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-970926-1) id IAA18975; Wed, 6 May 1998 08:27:55 -0700 (PDT) Received: from gsulaw.gsu.edu (gsulaw.Gsu.EDU [131.96.159.141]) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-980202-1) with ESMTP id IAA18967 for ; Wed, 6 May 1998 08:27:51 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (lawppw@localhost) by gsulaw.gsu.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id LAA26524; Wed, 6 May 1998 11:23:57 -0400 Date: Wed, 6 May 1998 11:23:57 -0400 (EDT) From: Patrick Wiseman To: Stefano Baldo cc: Majordomo-Users@GreatCircle.COM Subject: Re: Problems In-Reply-To: <355067A5.D1127866@scroll.cas.nutecnet.com.br> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk On Wed, 6 May 1998, Stefano Baldo wrote: : /home/listas/majordomo/majordomo.aliases EXISTS and I think it has the : right permissions. Sorry to ask an obvious question, but you did run 'newaliases' didn't you? Patrick From majordomo-users-owner Wed May 6 08:51:56 1998 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-970926-1) id IAA18845; Wed, 6 May 1998 08:24:35 -0700 (PDT) Received: from condor.admvo.uv.mx (condor.admvo.uv.mx [148.226.3.56]) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-980202-1) with ESMTP id IAA18838 for ; Wed, 6 May 1998 08:24:29 -0700 (PDT) Received: from halcon (halcon.admvo.uv.mx) by condor.admvo.uv.mx with SMTP (1.39.111.2/16.2) id AA162288275; Wed, 6 May 1998 10:24:35 -0500 Message-Id: <35507FDA.7DB@condor.admvo.uv.mx> Date: Wed, 06 May 1998 10:20:58 -0500 From: Neyra Lizeth Monroy Gonzalez Organization: Universidad Veracruzana X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0 (X11; I; HP-UX B.10.20 9000/856) Mime-Version: 1.0 To: majordomo-users@GreatCircle.COM Subject: body message is cut Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk Hi I'm new to the list I have a problems with majordomo 1.94, I have some lists. My problem is that miling list "soptec" the body of mesaage is cut. When somebody send to mesagge to list "soptec" the body of message isn't appear, the message is cut. someone can you helpme? PD. Sorry for my poor english, i hope that my message itsn't mixed From majordomo-users-owner Wed May 6 08:54:02 1998 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-970926-1) id IAA19334; Wed, 6 May 1998 08:36:50 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail13.digital.com (mail13.digital.com [192.208.46.30]) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-980202-1) with ESMTP id IAA19324 for ; Wed, 6 May 1998 08:36:38 -0700 (PDT) Received: from reohub2.reo.dec.com (reohub2.reo.dec.com [16.37.21.19]) by mail13.digital.com (8.8.8/8.8.8/WV1.0e) with ESMTP id LAA28693; Wed, 6 May 1998 11:37:36 -0400 (EDT) Received: by reohub2.reo.dec.com with Internet Mail Service (5.0.1460.8) id ; Wed, 6 May 1998 16:37:35 +0100 Message-ID: From: Sandeep Hundal To: majordomo-users@GreatCircle.COM, "'Rich Pieri'" Subject: New User Date: Wed, 6 May 1998 16:37:32 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.0.1460.8) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk Hi ! I'm trying to avoid building as I don't have much experience in that. So I was wondering if there was an already built version of MajorDomo which I could download for my Solaris Machine. Also, is there a archived newsgroup somewhere so I could search for any problems that might have been tackled relevant to me... ? Thanks Sunny From majordomo-users-owner Wed May 6 09:02:24 1998 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-970926-1) id IAA18921; Wed, 6 May 1998 08:26:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: from kaori.communique.net (kaori.communique.net [204.27.67.55]) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-980202-1) with ESMTP id IAA18914 for ; Wed, 6 May 1998 08:26:33 -0700 (PDT) Received: by kaori.communique.net with Internet Mail Service (5.0.1458.49) id ; Wed, 6 May 1998 10:27:53 -0500 Message-ID: From: Raul Zighelboim To: "'Rich Pieri'" , majordomo-users@GreatCircle.COM Subject: RE: pgp and majordomo Date: Wed, 6 May 1998 10:27:52 -0500 X-Priority: 3 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.0.1458.49) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk I am trying to do this for a closed list. Only a handfull of people will be allowed to post anything, and it will be a very static list (the posters will only change if death occurs). And the posts will cross BGP boundaries with -sometimes- confidential information. All receipients will be local. ================================================== Raul Zighelboim rzig@verio.net > -----Original Message----- > From: Rich Pieri [SMTP:rich.pieri@prescienttech.com] > Sent: Wednesday, May 06, 1998 10:04 AM > To: majordomo-users@GreatCircle.COM > Subject: Re: pgp and majordomo > > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > > Manar Hussain writes: > > > A good use of PGP is to stop "From" forging. > > That is what digital signatures are for. cf: everything I post for > examples. > > Key management is going to be a pain if you use PGP for authentication > backended onto Mj itself, and backending a full-blown keyserver onto > Mj is > probably going to be ugly at best. And it will be a lot of duplicated > effort since practically all of your subscribers will have keys for > everyone else on the list on their own key rings. > > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- > Version: 4.0 Business Edition > Charset: noconv > > iQCVAwUBNVB73Z6VRH7BJMxHAQE6UgP9F6G4aSpTAp2Q4fwb4pNmlwJmsFPPx057 > wDF5m6PPFX+mBSWbGPpIM95t/wGHEKY3bNXjJ/43U4EXBHdjYg0IJh51DoCMHJzn > yWhk8RgoKbxU5JxbOe9C+ixTg7Zjnbkkh3m7Xbjz5nLKSptrHkiFRlgJs+APigtA > c6Y12LyotEQ= > =16Sp > -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- > > -- > Rich Pieri / Happy Fun Ball contains a > liquid > Sysmonster, Unix Wrangler / core, which, if exposed due > to > Prescient Technologies, Inc. / rupture, should not be > touched, > I speak for myself, not PTI or SWEC / inhaled, or looked at. From majordomo-users-owner Wed May 6 09:25:00 1998 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-970926-1) id JAA20705; Wed, 6 May 1998 09:22:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: from kaori.communique.net (kaori.communique.net [204.27.67.55]) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-980202-1) with ESMTP id JAA20697 for ; Wed, 6 May 1998 09:22:41 -0700 (PDT) Received: by kaori.communique.net with Internet Mail Service (5.0.1458.49) id ; Wed, 6 May 1998 11:24:01 -0500 Message-ID: From: Raul Zighelboim To: "'Rich Pieri'" , majordomo-users@GreatCircle.COM Subject: RE: pgp and majordomo Date: Wed, 6 May 1998 11:23:58 -0500 X-Priority: 3 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.0.1458.49) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk The majordomo user has it's own private/public key combination :-) ================================================== Raul Zighelboim rzig@verio.net > -----Original Message----- > From: Rich Pieri [SMTP:rich.pieri@prescienttech.com] > Sent: Wednesday, May 06, 1998 10:19 AM > To: majordomo-users@GreatCircle.COM > Subject: Re: pgp and majordomo > > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > > Bob Izenberg writes: > > > I don't know RZ's specific application, but I can imagine lists with > > contributors of confidential information transmitting (nervously) > from > > public networks, for distribution to private network subscribers. > > Well, then you certainly do not want decryption to occour anywhere > other > than on recipients' machines, espeically when remote decryption > requires > secret keys to be accessible from an insecure network. > > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- > Version: 4.0 Business Edition > Charset: noconv > > iQCVAwUBNVB/VJ6VRH7BJMxHAQFjygQAs53PtiIK+87vpK15XRiahr6C9y/Uzv+c > r/WhVh1GVkfC7oNe8/8PQd589I31KyqiPYt1lYP5xhDXAFG5KoNyp5CAfnRy5NXd > LwLVqLvjWHiu2+HM+QBcrqV0YJcjSDGZ5efpdcBv95ljSfA40CXguobLQCirvf2M > ulO7owPX6X0= > =mrZh > -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- > > -- > Rich Pieri / Warning: pregnant women, > the > Sysmonster, Unix Wrangler / elderly, and children under > 10 > Prescient Technologies, Inc. / should avoid prolonged > exposure to > I speak for myself, not PTI or SWEC / Happy Fun Ball. From majordomo-users-owner Wed May 6 09:38:47 1998 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-970926-1) id JAA20912; Wed, 6 May 1998 09:37:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: from prescienttech.com (londo.prescienttech.com [199.103.216.62]) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-980202-1) with ESMTP id JAA20905 for ; Wed, 6 May 1998 09:37:18 -0700 (PDT) Received: from gkar.prescienttech.com. (gkar.prescienttech.com [111.17.19.1]) by prescienttech.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id MAA32618 for ; Wed, 6 May 1998 12:38:19 -0400 From: Rich Pieri To: majordomo-users@greatcircle.com Subject: Re: pgp and majordomo References: X-No-Archive: yes Mail-Copies-To: never Date: 06 May 1998 12:38:19 -0400 In-Reply-To: Raul Zighelboim's message of "Wed, 6 May 1998 11:23:58 -0500" Message-ID: Lines: 32 X-Mailer: Gnus v5.4.66/Emacs 19.34 Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Raul Zighelboim writes: > The majordomo user has it's own private/public key combination :-) The point is not who has the decryption key, but where it resides. For automatic decryption near Mj to occour, the decryption key must reside on a insecure machine. In truely paranoid security circles, what you are describing is just as insecure as encrypting nothing at all. Given that your list of recipients is static, the most secure thing you can do is to have posters encrypt using all recipients' public keys. Then, each recipient will be able to decrypt using his own secret key, without risk of compromising security at the transmission levels. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 4.0 Business Edition Charset: noconv iQCVAwUBNVCR+Z6VRH7BJMxHAQHe4AQAgi4P3FIWWwekucnyuSMCFJUow1UOxjTD oRn+c/NGMkwmfqgQbJ3T6lnrkNMTXts2dytpvnTb08mHNYcUXGiUzvb1Q+F/UwVA 1l89HCaWMtwS3vDX/AAD5hSvHpb3YA1Df952XgOR3Q7Qary4OeKWd0Uwhj9tjJYy Z7xrNXCFIQY= =ocq1 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- Rich Pieri / Happy Fun Ball may stick to certain Sysmonster, Unix Wrangler / types of skin. Prescient Technologies, Inc. / I speak for myself, not PTI or SWEC / From majordomo-users-owner Wed May 6 09:48:05 1998 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-970926-1) id JAA20667; Wed, 6 May 1998 09:21:51 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ex1.ncsa.uiuc.edu (ex1.ncsa.uiuc.edu [141.142.3.16]) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-980202-1) with ESMTP id JAA20659 for ; Wed, 6 May 1998 09:21:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.ncsa.uiuc.edu (mx1.ncsa.uiuc.edu [141.142.3.15]) by ex1.ncsa.uiuc.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA02993; Wed, 6 May 1998 11:22:43 -0500 (CDT) Received: from ferret.ncsa.uiuc.edu (ferret.ncsa.uiuc.edu [141.142.21.119]) by mx1.ncsa.uiuc.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA24173; Wed, 6 May 1998 11:22:42 -0500 (CDT) Received: (from lindsey@localhost) by ferret.ncsa.uiuc.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) id LAA18983; Wed, 6 May 1998 11:22:39 -0500 From: Christopher Lindsey Message-Id: <199805061622.LAA18983@ferret.ncsa.uiuc.edu> Subject: Re: pgp and majordomo To: rzig@verio.net (Raul Zighelboim) Date: Wed, 6 May 1998 11:22:38 -0500 (CDT) Cc: rich.pieri@prescienttech.com, majordomo-users@GreatCircle.COM In-Reply-To: from "Raul Zighelboim" at May 6, 98 10:27:52 am Content-Type: text Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk > I am trying to do this for a closed list. Only a handfull of people > will be allowed to post anything, and it will be a very static list (the > posters will only change if death occurs). > > And the posts will cross BGP boundaries with -sometimes- confidential > information. All receipients will be local. This is easy to do, but as everybody else commented, the security aspect isn't so great. You'll have to create a public/private key pair for the list and make sure that everyone sending to the list uses it. The private key will need to be stored on the mail server in some form or another. If it has to be, then I would write a little C program to do the decryption. Store your pass phrase in the C program with some sort of modification (i.e. rot13) so that a 'strings' on the binary wouldn't catch it. Since no human will ever be typing in this pass phrase, it would be good to use a series of meaningless numbers and letters. I would also add a check to the program to see what host you're on and what userid is running it; this will also help tighten down security a little bit. Once the script is written, I'd add the preprocessor to your aliases file like this: list: "|/usr/bin/procmail -m /usr/lib/mail/majordomo/.procmailrc-list" And .procmailrc-list would filter the message through your C program, which in turn would continue delivery to majordomo. I don't claim that this is secure, but it's about as close as I can see you coming with an automated PGP mechanism. Chris From majordomo-users-owner Wed May 6 09:53:49 1998 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-970926-1) id JAA20998; Wed, 6 May 1998 09:40:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: from bourbon.pl.vtcom.fr (bourbon.pl.vtcom.fr [193.252.69.217]) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-980202-1) with ESMTP id JAA20989 for ; Wed, 6 May 1998 09:40:53 -0700 (PDT) Received: from fth.net ([193.252.65.132]) by bourbon.pl.vtcom.fr (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id SAA22686 for ; Wed, 6 May 1998 18:41:54 +0200 Message-ID: <35509323.F1BACB8F@fth.net> Date: Wed, 06 May 1998 18:43:15 +0200 From: Martine Daffa-Vivier Reply-To: mdv@fth.net Organization: France Télécom Hébergement X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Majordomo-Users@GreatCircle.COM Subject: field "to" Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk I need help!!! Can I have in the field "to" the email address of the recipient of the list? tank you. ________________________________________________ Martine Daffa-Vivier [mailto:mdv@fth.net] voice : 01 46 12 66 21 / fax : 01 46 12 67 00 France Telecom Hebergement [http://www.fth.net/] From majordomo-users-owner Wed May 6 10:08:36 1998 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-970926-1) id KAA21740; Wed, 6 May 1998 10:00:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: from prescienttech.com (londo.prescienttech.com [199.103.216.62]) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-980202-1) with ESMTP id KAA21712 for ; Wed, 6 May 1998 10:00:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: from gkar.prescienttech.com. (gkar.prescienttech.com [111.17.19.1]) by prescienttech.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id NAA00634 for ; Wed, 6 May 1998 13:01:26 -0400 From: Rich Pieri To: majordomo-users@greatcircle.com Subject: Re: field "to" References: <35509323.F1BACB8F@fth.net> X-No-Archive: yes Mail-Copies-To: never Date: 06 May 1998 13:01:26 -0400 In-Reply-To: Martine Daffa-Vivier's message of "Wed, 06 May 1998 18:43:15 +0200" Message-ID: Lines: 27 X-Mailer: Gnus v5.4.66/Emacs 19.34 Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Martine Daffa-Vivier writes: > I need help!!! > Can I have in the field "to" the email address of the recipient of the > list? No. Majordomo (mostly) honors Internet mail standards, and does not modify originator headers. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 4.0 Business Edition Charset: noconv iQCVAwUBNVCXXJ6VRH7BJMxHAQF5agP/d96LYQbhVI1fx/ba4D/qcFY21CELn8ut wPiFu71wrryt3G6NCAJkV5/T5Km7PaXO0DlZy8DpQdhZdykAVZ4ZcaD1iAg2J1kg 4MWfZi137Ubgx67FsZPE4KKP+IWbyBSnwjM1iFse+ZiOaZ2/zbyw1pJKBbzVcc6g hWG08DgBeTk= =r7Fs -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- Rich Pieri / Happy Fun Ball may stick to certain Sysmonster, Unix Wrangler / types of skin. Prescient Technologies, Inc. / I speak for myself, not PTI or SWEC / From majordomo-users-owner Wed May 6 10:24:10 1998 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-970926-1) id KAA22104; Wed, 6 May 1998 10:13:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: from homicide.cityscape.net (homicide.cityscape.net [204.145.119.35]) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-980202-1) with ESMTP id KAA22088 for ; Wed, 6 May 1998 10:13:11 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (tg@localhost) by homicide.cityscape.net (8.8.6/8.8.6) with SMTP id MAA02306 for ; Wed, 6 May 1998 12:44:21 -0500 Date: Wed, 6 May 1998 12:44:21 -0500 (CDT) From: Tim Grossner To: majordomo-users@GreatCircle.COM Subject: Setting the Reply-To: field Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk What is exactly involved in setting the list so reply's go back to the list?? There isnt much in the way of documentation that i can find on this... Tim Grossner tg@homicidefans.org http://www.homicidefans.org "And I get no answers... And I get no change... Its raining in Baltimore, baby but everything else is the same..." - Raining in Baltimore by Counting Crows From majordomo-users-owner Wed May 6 10:54:37 1998 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-970926-1) id KAA23211; Wed, 6 May 1998 10:46:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: from bc.mountain.net (BC.Mountain.Net [198.77.1.35]) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-980202-1) with ESMTP id KAA23204 for ; Wed, 6 May 1998 10:45:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mountain.net (tec.Mountain.Net [198.77.1.37]) by bc.mountain.net (8.8.7/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA29221; Wed, 6 May 1998 13:46:04 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <3550A182.8C80ABF2@mountain.net> Date: Wed, 06 May 1998 13:44:34 -0400 From: Tim Connolly Organization: Mountain.Net, Inc. X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Tim Grossner CC: majordomo-users@GreatCircle.COM Subject: Re: Setting the Reply-To: field References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk Its all documented in the .config file. Tim Grossner wrote: > What is exactly involved in setting the list so reply's go back to the > list?? > > There isnt much in the way of documentation that i can find on this... > > Tim Grossner > tg@homicidefans.org > http://www.homicidefans.org > > "And I get no answers... > And I get no change... > Its raining in Baltimore, baby > but everything else is the same..." > > - Raining in Baltimore by Counting Crows -- Tim Connolly tec@mountain.net MountainNet, Inc. -- (304) 594-9075 ext. 37 2816 Cranberry Square -- fax (304) 594-9088 Morgantown, WV 26505 -- My signatures are getting longer and longer.. -- If you really want to see it... http://mountain.net/~tec From majordomo-users-owner Wed May 6 11:08:41 1998 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-970926-1) id LAA23611; Wed, 6 May 1998 11:00:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: from prescienttech.com (londo.prescienttech.com [199.103.216.62]) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-980202-1) with ESMTP id LAA23593 for ; Wed, 6 May 1998 11:00:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: from gkar.prescienttech.com. (gkar.prescienttech.com [111.17.19.1]) by prescienttech.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id OAA02610 for ; Wed, 6 May 1998 14:01:49 -0400 From: Rich Pieri To: majordomo-users@greatcircle.com Subject: Re: Setting the Reply-To: field References: X-No-Archive: yes Mail-Copies-To: never Date: 06 May 1998 14:01:49 -0400 In-Reply-To: Tim Grossner's message of "Wed, 6 May 1998 12:44:21 -0500 (CDT)" Message-ID: Lines: 35 X-Mailer: Gnus v5.4.66/Emacs 19.34 Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Tim Grossner writes: > What is exactly involved in setting the list so reply's go back to the > list?? It is a bad idea to do this if you do not understand the possible consequences. The list archives should have the several times it has been beaten to death :). Of note, if something does go wrong, you might end up with a mail loop on your hands. If you cannot figure out how to set a reply_to, it is probable that you will not be able to quickly figure out how to stop a mail loop. > There isnt much in the way of documentation that i can find on this... No, there is not. I like to think of it as deliberate. Check the list configuration file. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 4.0 Business Edition Charset: noconv iQCVAwUBNVCli56VRH7BJMxHAQEQjAP/ZbD6RuN6kPG9IQBlAXvv+RJ4UjexDoP1 e47FUv5Ur+lLsrBvUwM0y1kQLy/Rja74eZyY7sGwu4ko5/K+4mm8hkkbXQwi7fAO TX2Kccb/2B9vNSdzvW8Devg2txdrhb32RZ1Vv+Canu88YhRmHeCJtdqoOc9J/mu9 zmt8y/lUwpk= =nXJK -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- Rich Pieri / Do not taunt Happy Fun Ball. Sysmonster, Unix Wrangler / Prescient Technologies, Inc. / I speak for myself, not PTI or SWEC / From majordomo-users-owner Wed May 6 11:08:44 1998 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-970926-1) id KAA23144; Wed, 6 May 1998 10:44:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: from bc.mountain.net (BC.Mountain.Net [198.77.1.35]) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-980202-1) with ESMTP id KAA23137 for ; Wed, 6 May 1998 10:44:33 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mountain.net (tec.Mountain.Net [198.77.1.37]) by bc.mountain.net (8.8.7/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA29196; Wed, 6 May 1998 13:45:14 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <3550A150.3D0500B5@mountain.net> Date: Wed, 06 May 1998 13:43:44 -0400 From: Tim Connolly Organization: Mountain.Net, Inc. X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Stefano Baldo CC: Majordomo-Users@GreatCircle.COM Subject: Re: Problems References: <355067A5.D1127866@scroll.cas.nutecnet.com.br> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk I wasn't able to get this working either. I fixed it by moving the majordomo.aliases file into my /etc directory and made the permissions look the same as the aliases file. Also, be sure to put the OA ...majordomo line before the original aliases line if you want it to take precedence. Stefano Baldo wrote: > Hello. > > I'm trying to install majordomo 1.94.4. > I use perl 5.004, Linux 2.0.33 and Sendmail 8.8.7. > > The majordomo is installed in /home/listas/majordomo > I put OA/home/listas/majordomo/majordomo.aliases in sendmail.cf > When I try to send any message through sendmail, I got this message: > > hash map "Alias 1": unsafe map file > /home/listas/majordomo/majordomo.aliases: > No such file or directory > > /home/listas/majordomo/majordomo.aliases EXISTS and I think it has the > right permissions. > > scroll:/home/listas/majordomo$ ls -l majordomo.aliases > -rw-r--r-- 1 listas users 860 May 4 16:35 > majordomo.aliases > > Does anybody can help me, please? > > Regards, > Stefano Baldo > Campinas (SP) - Brazil > stefano@scroll.cas.nutecnet.com.br -- Tim Connolly tec@mountain.net MountainNet, Inc. -- (304) 594-9075 ext. 37 2816 Cranberry Square -- fax (304) 594-9088 Morgantown, WV 26505 -- My signatures are getting longer and longer.. -- If you really want to see it... http://mountain.net/~tec From majordomo-users-owner Wed May 6 11:23:55 1998 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-970926-1) id LAA24196; Wed, 6 May 1998 11:17:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: from netserve.ous.edu (OSSHE.EDU [140.211.10.20]) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-980202-1) with ESMTP id LAA24177 for ; Wed, 6 May 1998 11:17:50 -0700 (PDT) Received: from southbeach (southbeach.CONET.OSSHE.EDU [140.211.15.50]) by netserve.ous.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id LAA16577; Wed, 6 May 1998 11:18:35 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.19980506111835.0080bce0@osshe.edu> X-Sender: sugalskd@osshe.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.5 (32) Date: Wed, 06 May 1998 11:18:35 -0700 To: Tim Connolly , Stefano Baldo From: Dan Sugalski Subject: Re: Problems Cc: Majordomo-Users@GreatCircle.COM In-Reply-To: <3550A150.3D0500B5@mountain.net> References: <355067A5.D1127866@scroll.cas.nutecnet.com.br> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk At 01:43 PM 5/6/1998 -0400, Tim Connolly wrote: >I wasn't able to get this working either. I fixed it by moving the >majordomo.aliases file into my /etc directory and made the permissions look the >same as the aliases file. Also, be sure to put the OA ...majordomo line before >the original aliases line if you want it to >take precedence. I'm fairly sure that this complaint pops up when an alias file is on a different device than /etc. When I set things up, I symlinked my majordomo aliases file to /etc. newaliases sticks the database in /etc where it belongs, but the original aliases file's somewhere else that majordomo owns and my list creation scripts can access. Dan ---------------------------------------------"it's like this"-------------- Dan Sugalski (541) 737-3346 even samurai SysAdmin have teddy bears Oregon University System and even the teddy bears sugalskd@ous.edu get drunk From majordomo-users-owner Wed May 6 11:53:42 1998 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-970926-1) id LAA25066; Wed, 6 May 1998 11:46:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: from blkbox.com (blkbox.com [206.109.97.2]) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-980202-1) with ESMTP id LAA25059 for ; Wed, 6 May 1998 11:46:22 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (smithd@localhost) by blkbox.com (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id NAA26021; Wed, 6 May 1998 13:45:24 -0500 (CDT) Date: Wed, 6 May 1998 13:45:23 -0500 (CDT) From: David Smith To: Dan Sugalski cc: Tim Connolly , Stefano Baldo , Majordomo-Users@GreatCircle.COM Subject: Re: Problems In-Reply-To: <3.0.5.32.19980506111835.0080bce0@osshe.edu> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk On Wed, 6 May 1998, Dan Sugalski wrote: > At 01:43 PM 5/6/1998 -0400, Tim Connolly wrote: > >I wasn't able to get this working either. I fixed it by moving the > >majordomo.aliases file into my /etc directory and made the permissions > look the > >same as the aliases file. Also, be sure to put the OA ...majordomo line > before > >the original aliases line if you want it to > >take precedence. > > I'm fairly sure that this complaint pops up when an alias file is on a > different device than /etc. When I set things up, I symlinked my majordomo > aliases file to /etc. newaliases sticks the database in /etc where it > belongs, but the original aliases file's somewhere else that majordomo owns > and my list creation scripts can access. It complains because either the file, or the patch to the file, is not scure (meaning only root can write to it). Note since sendmail really only uses the database files once those are created, if you are using them, you can change permissions on everything else and it won't complain. I got around it by making majordomo's home directory, and the majordomo.aliases file owned by root, running newaliases to create the .db files, and then changing the permissions on teh directory and the aliases file back. Newaliases doesn't complain anymore, majordomo can write to the aliases file, and everything works. Luck. From majordomo-users-owner Wed May 6 14:08:53 1998 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-970926-1) id NAA26635; Wed, 6 May 1998 13:42:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: from newton.ispgaya.pt (newton.ispgaya.pt [194.79.91.19]) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-980202-1) with ESMTP id NAA26628 for ; Wed, 6 May 1998 13:42:33 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (pbrandao@localhost) by newton.ispgaya.pt (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id VAA31681; Wed, 6 May 1998 21:44:39 +0100 Date: Wed, 6 May 1998 21:44:39 +0100 (WEST) From: Paulo Brandao To: Dave Disser cc: majordomo-users@GreatCircle.COM Subject: MajorCool In-Reply-To: <199805050538.WAA08683@hpsdly.sdd.hp.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk Hello, How do i install the queue view of the bounces messages, i have tried to use majorcool, but that part i don't know how, if anyone knows how, please tell me, but in a simple way, i don't know much about this. Thank's in Advance, Paulo Brandao From majordomo-users-owner Wed May 6 14:23:03 1998 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-970926-1) id NAA26726; Wed, 6 May 1998 13:47:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: from crotus.sc.intel.com (crotus.sc.intel.com [143.183.152.26]) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-980202-1) with ESMTP id NAA26719 for ; Wed, 6 May 1998 13:46:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: from gomez.sc.intel.com (gomez.sc.intel.com [143.183.252.1]) by crotus.sc.intel.com (8.8.6/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA23811 for ; Wed, 6 May 1998 13:47:55 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from pmwaniki@localhost) by gomez.sc.intel.com (8.8.7/8.8.5) id NAA21267 for Majordomo-Users@greatcircle.com; Wed, 6 May 1998 13:48:43 -0700 (PDT) From: Peter Mwaniki ~ Message-Id: <199805062048.NAA21267@gomez.sc.intel.com> Subject: quick help on creating aliases To: Majordomo-Users@greatcircle.com Date: Wed, 6 May 1998 13:48:43 -0700 (PDT) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL25] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk Folks, greetings.. Can anyone give me a quick rundown on how to create a list I do have majordomo installed but needs to create some lists with the scanty ifo I have, I've tried: 1) login as root to the server, cd /home/majordomo/Lists 2) type "newlist eg. newlist xyz, create entries in xyz 3) create entries in /etc/aliases and /etc/mail/aliases 4) Now, here is where I get in trouble should it be "config .admin ( also I cannot find "config" but "config_test" 5) 4 above will create default config file for the list and send it back to me. Iam supposed to massage this list and send it back with "newconfig" command. 6) do i ran newaliases From majordomo-users-owner Wed May 6 16:26:05 1998 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-970926-1) id QAA29843; Wed, 6 May 1998 16:18:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: from sina.hpc.uh.edu (Sina.HPC.UH.EDU [129.7.3.5]) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-980202-1) with ESMTP id QAA29836 for ; Wed, 6 May 1998 16:17:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from tibbs@localhost) by sina.hpc.uh.edu (8.7.3/8.7.3) id SAA29825; Wed, 6 May 1998 18:19:23 -0500 (CDT) To: "'majordomo-users@greatcircle.com'" Subject: Re: pgp and majordomo References: Mime-Version: 1.0 (generated by tm-edit 7.100) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII From: Jason L Tibbitts III Date: 06 May 1998 18:19:23 -0500 In-Reply-To: Jeffrey Goldberg's message of "Wed, 6 May 1998 12:27:03 +0100 (BST)" Message-ID: Lines: 10 X-Mailer: Gnus v5.6.9/Emacs 19.34 Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk >>>>> "JG" == Jeffrey Goldberg writes: JG> You might want to look at the PGP:: perl modules on CPAN. We've been here before. Those modules are not really useful, and they're woefully out of date. As before, I await a good encryption interface before I implement the proposed support in development versions of Majordomo. - J< From majordomo-users-owner Wed May 6 18:08:58 1998 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-970926-1) id RAA01408; Wed, 6 May 1998 17:59:55 -0700 (PDT) Received: from postoffice.smu.edu (pony.cis.smu.edu [129.119.64.10]) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-980202-1) with ESMTP id RAA01401 for ; Wed, 6 May 1998 17:59:50 -0700 (PDT) Received: by postoffice.smu.edu (Smail-3.2.0.96 1997-Jun-2 #26) id ; Wed, 6 May 1998 20:00:58 -0500 (CDT) From: "Rich Andrews, Sr. UNIX Administrator, SMU" Message-Id: <980506200058.ZM27948@pony.cis.smu.edu> Date: Wed, 6 May 1998 20:00:57 -0500 X-Face: 1;M"p-gNaEe{QTcq-uU?6"=_JGbW*7W5C<(u%PLpz-t:F(#Yp;2kSfT'9'Y7"L#xy+~Qa!1 k1~RAcIBkCb~J X-Mailer: Z-Mail (4.0.1 13Jan97) To: majordomo-users@greatcircle.com Subject: majordomo and "sub-scribe" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk I have a few users that insist on using reserved keywords like h-e-l-p and sub-scribe (without the hyphens of course) and then the message bounces. Is there anything that I can do to resolve this issue short of telling the users not to use words like that? rich -- Rich Andrews | "I will not be stamped, indexed, Senior UNIX Systems Administrator | filed, briefed, debriefed or numbered. Senior Systems Security Specialist | My life is my own." Southern Methodist University | 214-768-3564 Pager 214-359-0742 | PGP KeyId: AF100445 PGP Key fingerprint = [ AA 31 0D 6E 5E FD B5 D0 B0 72 D2 E3 C3 11 D9 39 ] From majordomo-users-owner Wed May 6 20:23:36 1998 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-970926-1) id UAA03263; Wed, 6 May 1998 20:14:04 -0700 (PDT) Received: from gsulaw.gsu.edu (gsulaw.Gsu.EDU [131.96.159.141]) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-980202-1) with ESMTP id UAA03256 for ; Wed, 6 May 1998 20:13:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (lawppw@localhost) by gsulaw.gsu.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id XAA13566; Wed, 6 May 1998 23:15:12 -0400 Date: Wed, 6 May 1998 23:15:12 -0400 (EDT) From: Patrick Wiseman To: "Rich Andrews, Sr. UNIX Administrator, SMU" cc: majordomo-users@GreatCircle.COM Subject: Re: majordomo and "sub-scribe" In-Reply-To: <980506200058.ZM27948@pony.cis.smu.edu> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk How did you know to use hyphens? Did you suspect, perhaps, that this list, like yours, has "administrivia=yes" in its config file? Patrick On Wed, 6 May 1998, Rich Andrews, Sr. UNIX Administrator, SMU wrote: : :I have a few users that insist on using reserved keywords like :h-e-l-p and sub-scribe (without the hyphens of course) and :then the message bounces. : :Is there anything that I can do to resolve this issue short of telling :the users not to use words like that? From majordomo-users-owner Wed May 6 22:08:36 1998 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-970926-1) id WAA04364; Wed, 6 May 1998 22:04:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: from chinet.chinet.com (chinet.chinet.com [206.158.147.18]) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-980202-1) with ESMTP id WAA04357 for ; Wed, 6 May 1998 22:04:16 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (ahk@localhost) by chinet.chinet.com (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id AAA11101 for ; Thu, 7 May 1998 00:05:25 -0500 Date: Thu, 7 May 1998 00:05:25 -0500 (CDT) From: "Adam H. Kerman" To: majordomo-users Subject: Re: majordomo and "sub-scribe" In-Reply-To: <980506200058.ZM27948@pony.cis.smu.edu> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk >From: "Rich Andrews, Sr. UNIX Administrator, SMU" >Date: Wed, 6 May 1998 20:00:57 -0500 >I have a few users that insist on using reserved keywords like h-e-l-p and >sub-scribe (without the hyphens of course) and then the message bounces. >Is there anything that I can do to resolve this issue short of telling the >users not to use words like that? The club you are using is too small. Either upgrade to a larger version, or improve your swing. From majordomo-users-owner Thu May 7 04:53:40 1998 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-970926-1) id EAA11692; Thu, 7 May 1998 04:51:51 -0700 (PDT) Received: from isn.dac.neu.edu (isn.dac.neu.edu [129.10.1.77]) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-980202-1) with ESMTP id EAA11685 for ; Thu, 7 May 1998 04:51:43 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (johnson@localhost) by isn.dac.neu.edu with SMTP id HAA15386; Thu, 7 May 1998 07:52:55 -0400 (EDT) Date: Thu, 7 May 1998 07:52:53 -0400 (EDT) From: Chris Johnson Reply-To: Chris Johnson To: majordomo-users@GreatCircle.COM cc: Chris Johnson Subject: lists command and advertising. Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk Hi all. I running Majordomo 1.94.4. I have all my lists config'ed with null in the advertise string and /.*/ in the noadvertise string. Yet five of my lists are coming out in the lists command when none should be. I've rewritten the config's several times and now I'm deep in that part of the majordomo script where it figures out if it should advertise. It seems to be picking up the fact that noadvertise is the way to go. At least it's in that part of the code. But it lists out these five lists anyway. Has anybody seen this behavior? Better, does anybody know how to fix this? It's annoying and bad from a security standpoint. Help much appreciated. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Chris Johnson |Internet: johnson@isn.dac.neu.edu Assistant Director, Systems |Web: http://www.dac.neu.edu/dac/c.johnson Division of Academic Computing |Voice: 617.373.3300 Northeastern University, 39 RI |FAX: 617.373.8600 360 Huntington Ave. |Life n, something from which nobody escapes Boston, MA., U.S.A. 02115 |alive. Me ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From majordomo-users-owner Thu May 7 05:08:36 1998 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-970926-1) id EAA11858; Thu, 7 May 1998 04:59:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: from stingray.ivision.co.uk (stingray.ivision.co.uk [195.50.91.40]) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-980202-1) with SMTP id EAA11851 for ; Thu, 7 May 1998 04:59:38 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pretender.ivision.co.uk [195.50.91.43] by stingray.ivision.co.uk with smtp (Exim 1.62 #2) id 0yXPM2-0001i5-00; Thu, 7 May 1998 13:00:50 +0100 Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.19980507125938.009e2b30@stingray.ivision.co.uk> X-Sender: manarpop@stingray.ivision.co.uk X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.5 (32) Date: Thu, 07 May 1998 12:59:38 +0100 To: majordomo-users@GreatCircle.COM From: Manar Hussain Subject: Re: lists command and advertising. In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk At 07:52 07/05/98 -0400, Chris Johnson wrote: > Hi all. > > I running Majordomo 1.94.4. I have all my lists config'ed with >null in the advertise string and /.*/ in the noadvertise string. Yet five of >my lists are coming out in the lists command when none should be. >I've rewritten the config's several times and now I'm deep in that part >of the majordomo script where it figures out if it should advertise. >It seems to be picking up the fact that noadvertise is the way to go. >At least it's in that part of the code. But it lists out these five >lists anyway. > > Has anybody seen this behavior? Better, does anybody know how to >fix this? It's annoying and bad from a security standpoint. I'm not 100% sure but I think you may see lists you're on with a lists command ? From majordomo-users-owner Thu May 7 05:23:48 1998 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-970926-1) id FAA12059; Thu, 7 May 1998 05:07:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: from blkbox.com (blkbox.com [206.109.97.2]) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-980202-1) with ESMTP id FAA12052 for ; Thu, 7 May 1998 05:07:49 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (smithd@localhost) by blkbox.com (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id HAA16755; Thu, 7 May 1998 07:08:56 -0500 (CDT) Date: Thu, 7 May 1998 07:08:56 -0500 (CDT) From: David Smith To: Chris Johnson cc: majordomo-users@GreatCircle.COM Subject: Re: lists command and advertising. In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk You wouldn't happen to be subscribed to the lists that your having problems with? the lists command will always show lists you are subscribed to, no matter the advertise settings. On Thu, 7 May 1998, Chris Johnson wrote: > Hi all. > > I running Majordomo 1.94.4. I have all my lists config'ed with > null in the advertise string and /.*/ in the noadvertise string. Yet five of > my lists are coming out in the lists command when none should be. > I've rewritten the config's several times and now I'm deep in that part > of the majordomo script where it figures out if it should advertise. > It seems to be picking up the fact that noadvertise is the way to go. > At least it's in that part of the code. But it lists out these five > lists anyway. > > Has anybody seen this behavior? Better, does anybody know how to > fix this? It's annoying and bad from a security standpoint. > > Help much appreciated. > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > Chris Johnson |Internet: johnson@isn.dac.neu.edu > Assistant Director, Systems |Web: http://www.dac.neu.edu/dac/c.johnson > Division of Academic Computing |Voice: 617.373.3300 > Northeastern University, 39 RI |FAX: 617.373.8600 > 360 Huntington Ave. |Life n, something from which nobody escapes > Boston, MA., U.S.A. 02115 |alive. Me > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > From majordomo-users-owner Thu May 7 08:38:43 1998 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-970926-1) id IAA14332; Thu, 7 May 1998 08:27:53 -0700 (PDT) Received: from isn.dac.neu.edu (isn.dac.neu.edu [129.10.1.77]) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-980202-1) with ESMTP id IAA14325 for ; Thu, 7 May 1998 08:27:48 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (johnson@localhost) by isn.dac.neu.edu with SMTP id LAA22485 for ; Thu, 7 May 1998 11:29:02 -0400 (EDT) Date: Thu, 7 May 1998 11:28:57 -0400 (EDT) From: Chris Johnson To: majordomo-users@GreatCircle.COM Subject: Re: lists command and advertising. In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk Well I'm thoroughly embarrassed. Yes I am on those lists that show up regardless of the noadvertise string. *SIGH* I think it'll stick this time. I traced it through the code. Ouch! Sorry for waisting bandwidth. I'll go bang my head on the street now. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Chris Johnson |Internet: johnson@isn.dac.neu.edu Assistant Director, Systems |Web: http://www.dac.neu.edu/dac/c.johnson Division of Academic Computing |Voice: 617.373.3300 Northeastern University, 39 RI |FAX: 617.373.8600 360 Huntington Ave. |Life n, something from which nobody escapes Boston, MA., U.S.A. 02115 |alive. Me ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From majordomo-users-owner Thu May 7 09:08:36 1998 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-970926-1) id IAA14818; Thu, 7 May 1998 08:59:49 -0700 (PDT) Received: from vela.acs.oakland.edu (vela.acs.oakland.edu [141.210.10.2]) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-980202-1) with ESMTP id IAA14802 for ; Thu, 7 May 1998 08:59:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from raja@localhost) by vela.acs.oakland.edu (8.8.4/8.6.6) id MAA08978; Thu, 7 May 1998 12:00:44 -0400 (EDT) From: Raja Vishnubhotla Message-Id: <199805071600.MAA08978@vela.acs.oakland.edu> Subject: majordomo errors To: majordomo-users@greatcircle.com Date: Thu, 7 May 1998 12:00:44 -0500 (EDT) Cc: raja@vela.acs.oakland.edu (Raja Vishnubhotla) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL21] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk When w etry to install majordomo, installation went fine. We tested it with ./wrapper config-test We did not find any errors. When we try to send a message to the list, we got the following error. sh: 6347 Memory fault 554 "|/local/app/majordomo/wrapper resend -l nistest -h matlock.acs.oakland.edu nistest-outgoing"... unknown mailer error 139 Please help us. Raja From majordomo-users-owner Thu May 7 09:23:59 1998 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-970926-1) id JAA15246; Thu, 7 May 1998 09:19:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: from cheetah.it.wsu.edu (cheetah.it.wsu.edu [134.121.1.8]) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-980202-1) with ESMTP id JAA15239 for ; Thu, 7 May 1998 09:19:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: from tinat.hws.wsu.edu (tinat.hws.wsu.edu [134.121.224.101]) by cheetah.it.wsu.edu (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id JAA05752; Thu, 7 May 1998 09:20:21 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <3.0.32.19980507091840.007268d0@mail.wsu.edu> X-Sender: tinat@mail.wsu.edu X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0 (32) Date: Thu, 07 May 1998 09:19:49 -0700 To: "Rich Andrews, Sr. UNIX Administrator, SMU" From: Tina Tindall Subject: Re: majordomo and "sub-scribe" Cc: majordomo-users@GreatCircle.COM Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk At 08:00 PM 5/6/98 -0500, you wrote: > >I have a few users that insist on using reserved keywords like >h-e-l-p and sub-scribe (without the hyphens of course) and >then the message bounces. > >Is there anything that I can do to resolve this issue short of telling >the users not to use words like that? Turn the administrivia off in your config file. - Tina <*>-<*>-<*>-<*>-<*>-<*>-<*>-<*>-<*>-<*>-<*>-<*>-<*>-<*>-<*>-<*>-<*>-<*> Tina Tindall Member in Good Standing Wellness Programs Association of Internet Professionals (AIP) Health and Wellness Services http://www.association.org Washington State University Pullman, WA 99164-4134 Member in Good Standing (509) 335-WELL (9355) The HTML Writer's Guild (HWG) (509) 335-2092 Fax http://www.hwg.org http://www.hws.wsu.edu/wellness/ <*>-<*>-<*>-<*>-<*>-<*>-<*>-<*>-<*>-<*>-<*>-<*>-<*>-<*>-<*>-<*>-<*>-<*> From majordomo-users-owner Thu May 7 09:53:45 1998 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-970926-1) id JAA15725; Thu, 7 May 1998 09:45:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: from loonybin.bazza.com (eaganj.student.lawrence.edu [143.44.4.48]) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-980202-1) with ESMTP id JAA15718 for ; Thu, 7 May 1998 09:45:51 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (noonian@localhost) by loonybin.bazza.com (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id MAA05244 for ; Thu, 7 May 1998 12:02:47 -0500 Date: Thu, 7 May 1998 12:02:47 -0500 (CDT) From: Dr Noonian Soong Reply-To: Dr Noonian Soong To: majordomo-users@greatcircle.com Subject: messages go to oblivion Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk I installed majordomo 1.94.4 after switching over to RedHat Linux 5.0 (from FreeBSD). I copied my old list configuration files to the list dir, and configured everything else from scratch according to the installation guide. When I send mail to the majordomo address, everything works fine, but when I send mail to the lists, the mail never makes it out to the subscriber list. Here's what I see in my sendmail (v8.9) log: May 7 11:51:23 loonybin sendmail[5167]: LAA05167: from=, size=2571, class=0, pri=32571, nrcpts=1, msgid=, proto=SMTP, relay=noonian@localhost May 7 11:51:23 loonybin sendmail[5168]: LAA05168: clone LAA05167, owner=noonian May 7 11:51:24 loonybin sendmail[5170]: LAA05170: from=owner-spaced@loonybin.bazza.com, size=2907, class=-60, pri=140907, nrcpts=1, msgid=, relay=majordom@localhost May 7 11:51:24 loonybin sendmail[5170]: LAB05170: clone LAA05170, owner=owner-spaced May 7 11:51:24 loonybin sendmail[5168]: LAA05168: to="|/home/majordom/majordomo/wrapper resend -l spaced spaced-outgoing", delay=00:00:01, xdelay=00:00:01, mailer=prog, stat=Sent May 7 11:51:24 loonybin sendmail[5172]: LAB05170: to="|/home/majordom/majordomo/wrapper digest -r -C -l spaced-digest spaced-digest-outgoing", delay=00:00:00, xdelay=00:00:00, mailer=prog, stat=Sent I don't get any mailer error messages back and nothing from majordomo. The majordomo Log doesn't show any record of ever receiving the message; only of receiving the majordomo requests. Here are the permissions I have for the majordomo directories (though since I can subscribe to the lists, I would imagine this isn't the problem). drwxr-x--x 6 majordom majordom 1024 May 7 11:57 ./ drwxr-xr-x 5 majordom majordom 1024 May 6 17:53 ../ -rw-rw-r-- 1 majordom majordom 780 May 7 11:57 Log drwxr-xr-x 2 majordom majordom 1024 May 6 09:32 Tools/ -rwxr-xr-x 1 majordom majordom 5234 May 6 09:33 archive2.pl* drwxr-xr-x 2 majordom majordom 1024 May 6 09:32 bin/ -rwxr-xr-x 1 majordom majordom 2795 May 6 09:33 bounce-remind* -rwxr-xr-x 1 majordom majordom 10671 May 6 09:33 config-test* -rwxr-xr-x 1 majordom majordom 49673 May 6 09:33 config_parse.pl* -rwxr-xr-x 1 majordom majordom 13031 May 6 09:33 digest* drwxr-xr-x 4 majordom majordom 1024 May 7 11:57 lists/ -rwxr-xr-x 1 majordom majordom 64251 May 6 09:33 majordomo* -rw-rw-r-- 1 root majordom 3875 May 6 09:48 majordomo.aliases -rw-rw-r-- 1 root majordom 16384 May 7 11:39 majordomo.aliases.db -rw-r--r-- 1 majordom majordom 10497 May 6 09:35 majordomo.cf -rwxr-xr-x 1 majordom majordom 23763 May 6 09:33 majordomo.pl* -rwxr-xr-x 1 majordom majordom 137 May 6 09:33 majordomo_version.pl* drwxr-xr-x 4 majordom majordom 1024 May 6 09:33 man/ -rwxr-xr-x 1 majordom majordom 3532 May 6 09:33 request-answer* -rwxr-xr-x 1 majordom majordom 29520 May 6 09:33 resend* -rw-r--r-- 1 majordom majordom 10496 May 6 09:33 sample.cf -rwxr-xr-x 1 majordom majordom 8060 May 6 09:33 shlock.pl* -rwsr-xr-x 1 root majordom 6771 May 6 09:33 wrapper* and lists/ -rw-r--r-- 1 majordom majordom 1537 May 7 11:57 spaced -rw-r--r-- 1 majordom majordom 780 May 2 19:26 spaced-digest drwxrwxr-x 2 majordom majordom 2048 May 6 12:53 spaced-digest.archive/ -rw-r--r-- 1 majordom majordom 17156 May 3 02:10 spaced-digest.config -rw-r--r-- 1 majordom majordom 3181 Feb 11 01:21 spaced-digest.info -rw-r--r-- 1 majordom majordom 16254 Feb 15 11:16 spaced.config -rw-r--r-- 1 majordom majordom 4923 Feb 11 02:07 spaced.guidelines -rw-r--r-- 1 majordom majordom 3179 Feb 11 21:44 spaced.info -rw-r--r-- 1 majordom majordom 547 May 6 12:55 vampire -rw-r--r-- 1 majordom majordom 27 Apr 10 08:57 vampire-digest drwxrwxr-x 2 majordom majordom 1024 May 6 12:54 vampire-digest.archive/ -rw-r--r-- 1 majordom majordom 17150 May 3 02:10 vampire-digest.config -rw-r--r-- 1 majordom majordom 16297 Apr 9 22:39 vampire.config Any assistance you can give would be greatly appreciated. James Eagan PS, please cc: any responses to me directly as I am not subscribed to the majordomo-users list. ============================================================================ ==| Dr Noonian Soong |===| Noonian@dal.net |===| Noonian on DALnet |== ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ==| "Set a course; there's coffee in that nebula." --Capt. Janeway |== ============================================================================ From majordomo-users-owner Thu May 7 10:23:36 1998 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-970926-1) id KAA16155; Thu, 7 May 1998 10:12:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ayla.idyllmtn.com (ayla.idyllmtn.com [206.16.238.1]) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-980202-1) with ESMTP id KAA16147 for ; Thu, 7 May 1998 10:11:58 -0700 (PDT) Received: from grev.idyllmtn.com ([134.173.9.242]) by ayla.idyllmtn.com (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id KAA24459; Thu, 7 May 1998 10:12:58 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.19980507101759.00b17130@mail.idyllmtn.com> X-Sender: kynn-mlists@mail.idyllmtn.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.5 (32) Date: Thu, 07 May 1998 10:17:59 -0700 To: Dr Noonian Soong From: Kynn Bartlett Subject: Re: messages go to oblivion Cc: majordomo-users@GreatCircle.COM In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk At 12:02 p.m. 05/07/98 -0500, Dr Noonian Soong wrote: >PS, please cc: any responses to me directly as I am not subscribed to the >majordomo-users list. That's probably your biggest problem right there. -- __ __ _ _ _ Mailing List Services | \/ | | (_)___| |_ ___ for the Internet Community | |\/| | | | / __| __/ __| http://www.mlists.com/ | | | | |___| \__ \ |_\__ \ (Free list hosting available!) |_| |_|_____|_|___/\__|___/ kynn@mlists.com From majordomo-users-owner Thu May 7 11:39:06 1998 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-970926-1) id LAA17407; Thu, 7 May 1998 11:28:35 -0700 (PDT) Received: from tiburon.mylex.com ([206.216.93.15]) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-980202-1) with ESMTP id LAA17387 for ; Thu, 7 May 1998 11:28:23 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mylex.com ([204.32.127.104]) by tiburon.mylex.com (Netscape Messaging Server 3.0) with ESMTP id AAA29481 for ; Thu, 7 May 1998 11:26:10 -0700 Message-ID: <3551FCF3.6470AD73@mylex.com> Date: Thu, 07 May 1998 18:26:59 +0000 From: Dan Deremiah X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (X11; I; Linux 2.0.32 i586) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Majordomo-Users@GreatCircle.COM Subject: [Fwd: subscriber restrict, and reply address] Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------00391EC4879E1504B671620B" Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------00391EC4879E1504B671620B Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Dan Deremiah wrote: > > OK here are a couple of easy (for experienced users) questions that I > need to ask after reading the FAQ and much of the included docs in > version 1.94.4. I have perl 5.004, solaris 2.5.x, and sendmail as my > transport agent. > > 1) I want to automatically restrict the subscribers to a everyone in > "*this.domain". I have set up advertise so that outside domains can't > see the lists with the 'lists' command, but that seems to have no effect > on who can actually subscribe. > > 2) How do I set the return address with majordomo, so that the return > address is majordomo@this.domain instead of > majordomo@machinein.this.domain. So when people reply to a request it > goes to the correct mail exchanger. > > Thanks in advance for the help, > > dand --------------00391EC4879E1504B671620B Content-Type: message/rfc822 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-ID: <35507D15.5D08F759@mylex.com> Date: Wed, 06 May 1998 15:09:10 +0000 From: Dan Deremiah X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (X11; I; Linux 2.0.32 i586) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Majordomo-Users@GreatCircle.COM Subject: subscriber restrict, and reply address Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit OK here are a couple of easy (for experienced users) questions that I need to ask after reading the FAQ and much of the included docs in version 1.94.4. I have perl 5.004, solaris 2.5.x, and sendmail as my transport agent. 1) I want to automatically restrict the subscribers to a everyone in "*this.domain". I have set up advertise so that outside domains can't see the lists with the 'lists' command, but that seems to have no effect on who can actually subscribe. 2) How do I set the return address with majordomo, so that the return address is majordomo@this.domain instead of majordomo@machinein.this.domain. So when people reply to a request it goes to the correct mail exchanger. Thanks in advance for the help, dand --------------00391EC4879E1504B671620B-- From majordomo-users-owner Thu May 7 13:24:39 1998 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-970926-1) id NAA18822; Thu, 7 May 1998 13:18:19 -0700 (PDT) Received: from kitsune.swcp.com (swcp.com [198.59.115.2]) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-980202-1) with ESMTP id NAA18815 for ; Thu, 7 May 1998 13:18:10 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from lazlo@localhost) by kitsune.swcp.com (8.8.8/1.2.3) id OAA09114; Thu, 7 May 1998 14:19:25 -0600 (MDT) Message-ID: <19980507141925.A8923@swcp.com> Date: Thu, 7 May 1998 14:19:25 -0600 From: Lazlo Nibble To: majordomo-users@GreatCircle.COM Subject: Re: majordomo and "sub-scribe" Mail-Followup-To: majordomo-users@GreatCircle.COM References: <980506200058.ZM27948@pony.cis.smu.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.91.1i In-Reply-To: <980506200058.ZM27948@pony.cis.smu.edu>; from Rich Andrews, Sr. UNIX Administrator, SMU on Wed, May 06, 1998 at 08:00:57PM -0500 Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk On Wed, May 06, 1998 at 08:00:57PM -0500, Rich Andrews, Sr. UNIX Administrator, SMU wrote: > I have a few users that insist on using reserved keywords like > h-e-l-p and sub-scribe (without the hyphens of course) and > then the message bounces. And then you approve the message and it goes through to the list. Where does the problem lie, exactly? -- ::: Lazlo (lazlo@swcp.com; http://www.swcp.com/lazlo) ::: Internet Music Wantlists: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo/Wantlists From majordomo-users-owner Thu May 7 15:53:45 1998 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-970926-1) id PAA20280; Thu, 7 May 1998 15:41:18 -0700 (PDT) Received: from sina.hpc.uh.edu (Sina.HPC.UH.EDU [129.7.3.5]) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-980202-1) with ESMTP id PAA20273 for ; Thu, 7 May 1998 15:41:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from tibbs@localhost) by sina.hpc.uh.edu (8.7.3/8.7.3) id RAA23984; Thu, 7 May 1998 17:42:37 -0500 (CDT) To: Dan Deremiah Cc: Majordomo-Users@GreatCircle.COM Subject: Re: [Fwd: subscriber restrict, and reply address] References: <3551FCF3.6470AD73@mylex.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 (generated by tm-edit 7.100) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII From: Jason L Tibbitts III Date: 07 May 1998 17:42:36 -0500 In-Reply-To: Dan Deremiah's message of "Thu, 07 May 1998 18:26:59 +0000" Message-ID: Lines: 16 X-Mailer: Gnus v5.6.9/Emacs 19.34 Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk >>>>> "DD" == Dan Deremiah writes: DD> 1) I want to automatically restrict the zubscribers to a everyone in DD> "*this.domain". You cannot without patching Majordomo. Functionality to do this is already in the development version. DD> 2) How do I set the return address with majordomo, so that the return DD> address is majordomo@this.domain instead of DD> majordomo@machinein.this.domain. The $whereami setting in the majordomo.cf file sets this, but your mail system could be changing it afterwards. - J< From majordomo-users-owner Thu May 7 20:24:08 1998 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-970926-1) id UAA23698; Thu, 7 May 1998 20:20:36 -0700 (PDT) Received: from norway.it.earthlink.net (norway-c.it.earthlink.net [204.119.177.49]) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-980202-1) with ESMTP id UAA23689 for ; Thu, 7 May 1998 20:20:23 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ibm.net (pool035-max2.rs-ca-us.dialup.earthlink.net [207.217.141.85]) by norway.it.earthlink.net (8.8.7/8.8.5) with ESMTP id UAA07856; Thu, 7 May 1998 20:21:14 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <35527A9D.3A36BE4A@ibm.net> Date: Thu, 07 May 1998 20:23:09 -0700 From: Jeff Lasman Reply-To: jlasman@ibm.net Organization: Interesting Times X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Bill Houle CC: majordomo-users@GreatCircle.COM Subject: Re: Non tech Majordomo guide References: <199805051900.MAA12175@ncr-sd.SanDiegoCA.NCR.COM> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk Bill Houle wrote: > If memory serves, the user's section from "Managing Internet & > Information Servers" was better. [Both O'Reilly] _Managing_Internet_&_Information_Servers_ is definitely much better. It's very thorough, including chapters for "Automating Mailing Lists with Majordomo" (including Installing Majordomo, Setting Up Lists, and Day-to-Day Administration) and "The Majordomo List Owner and Moderator" (including Aliases, Commands for List Owners, Changing a Lists's configuration, Making a Moderated List, Approving Subscriptions and Moderating, and Returned Mail and the Bounces List). About fifty pages in all. It's how I first learned Majordomo. I recommend the book very highly to anyone who wants to know not only about Majordomo, but about virtually every Internet service. O'Reilly & Associates, 1994. I bought my most recent copy about a year ago for $29.95 at Borders. -- Jeff Lasman "Publisher of the FREE InterestingTimes computer-industry newsletter. To subscribe, write "subscribe InterestingTimes" (without the quotes) in the body of your email. From majordomo-users-owner Thu May 7 20:38:40 1998 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-970926-1) id UAA23753; Thu, 7 May 1998 20:27:02 -0700 (PDT) Received: from norway.it.earthlink.net (norway-c.it.earthlink.net [204.119.177.49]) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-980202-1) with ESMTP id UAA23746 for ; Thu, 7 May 1998 20:26:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ibm.net (pool035-max2.rs-ca-us.dialup.earthlink.net [207.217.141.85]) by norway.it.earthlink.net (8.8.7/8.8.5) with ESMTP id UAA13169 for ; Thu, 7 May 1998 20:28:15 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <35527C43.AC8D8BC@ibm.net> Date: Thu, 07 May 1998 20:30:12 -0700 From: Jeff Lasman Reply-To: jlasman@ibm.net Organization: Interesting Times X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: majordomo-users@GreatCircle.COM Subject: Re: New User References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk The second thing I _ever_ did under Unix was an operating system build. It didn't work the first time. I kept at it. It did eventually. Within a weekend. Sure the water's deep. But it's swimmable. Just jump in! Sandeep Hundal wrote: > > Hi ! > > I'm trying to avoid building as I don't have much experience in that. So I > was wondering if there was an already built version of MajorDomo which I > could download for my Solaris Machine. > > Also, is there a archived newsgroup somewhere so I could search for any > problems that might have been tackled relevant to me... ? > > Thanks > > Sunny -- Jeff Lasman "Publisher of the FREE InterestingTimes computer-industry newsletter. To subscribe, write "subscribe InterestingTimes" (without the quotes) in the body of your email. From majordomo-users-owner Thu May 7 21:26:00 1998 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-970926-1) id VAA24594; Thu, 7 May 1998 21:11:35 -0700 (PDT) Received: from 209.154.56.41 (hdn94-041.hil.compuserve.com [209.154.56.41]) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-980202-1) with SMTP id VAA24576; Thu, 7 May 1998 21:11:23 -0700 (PDT) Date: Thu, 7 May 1998 21:11:23 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199805080411.VAA24576@honor.greatcircle.com> Subject: Independent Price Survey of 175 Life Insurance Companies Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk Visit http://207.93.198.41/budmaster.htm to see the results of a recent independent survey of over 175 life insurance companies. Here is a sample: GUARANTEED MONTHLY PREMIUM FOR $250,000 FOR 10 YEAR TERM: Age Sex Preferred Health Standard Health 25 M $14.14 $17.18 25 F $11.96 $14.36 35 M $14.14 $17.18 35 F $11.96 $14.36 45 M $30.01 $36.68 45 F $20.47 $25.20 55 M $59.72 $77.85 55 F $44.41 $52.88 WE ARE NOT AFFILIATED WITH THE INSURANCE INDUSTRY... ..so these are not quotes. We are computer specialists, and we publish information. So take advantage of months of research and development. DON'T TALK TO AN AGENT UNTIL YOU GET THE FACTS http://207.93.198.41/budmaster.htm From majordomo-users-owner Thu May 7 21:32:24 1998 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-970926-1) id VAA24705; Thu, 7 May 1998 21:17:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: from svlug.svlug.org (svlug.svlug.org [209.81.8.243]) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-980202-1) with ESMTP id VAA24698 for ; Thu, 7 May 1998 21:17:38 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from rob@localhost) by svlug.svlug.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id VAA13237; Thu, 7 May 1998 21:18:51 -0700 Date: Thu, 7 May 1998 21:18:51 -0700 Message-Id: <199805080418.VAA13237@svlug.svlug.org> From: rob walker MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit To: majordomo-users@greatcircle.com, rob@svlug.org Subject: ABORT shlock, digests... X-Mailer: VM 6.22 under 19.15p2 XEmacs Lucid Reply-To: rob@svlug.org X-PGP-Fingerprint: CD 3B D7 01 69 A1 DD E3 3E 69 11 23 6D 8E A2 6A Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk I am having a couple of problems with majordomo. Upon every submission to my lists, I get two error messages back. The first email is the following: MAJORDOMO ABORT (archive2.pl)!! shlock: '/home/majordom/majordomo-1.94.3/lists/archives/svlug' does not exist however, when I go out to the filesystem, here are the results: [root@svlug lists]# ls -al /home/majordom/majordomo-1.94.3/lists/archives/ | grep svlug drwxrwxr-x 2 majordom majordom 3072 Apr 11 16:15 svlug/ drwxrwxr-x 2 majordom majordom 1024 Apr 1 14:08 svlug-announce/ drwxrwxr-x 2 majordom majordom 1024 Oct 17 1997 svlug-announce-digest/ drwxrwxr-x 2 majordom majordom 1024 Sep 24 1997 svlug-digest/ [root@svlug lists]# are the permissions messed up? I don't think so. If you need to, I can show you what is in the svlug directory, but it is just a lot of .971212 and .980123 files, and stuff like that. the second one that I get with every post is MAJORDOMO ABORT (mj_digest)!! open(MSG, ">/home/majordom/majordomo-1.94.3/lists/digests/svlug-digest/001"): P\rmission denied and the filesystem shows the following: [root@svlug lists]# ls -al /home/majordom/majordomo-1.94.3/lists/digests/svlug-digest/001 -rw-rw---- 1 majordom majordom 3344 Apr 11 10:09 /home/majordom/majordomo-1.94.3/lists/digests/svlug-digest/001 [root@svlug lists]# I can see how this is a problem, because the 001 digest has already gone out. I changed the svlug.config file to have the line "digest_issue = 14" in it, even though I do not know how it would help any, as I never updated the config files from one version of the digest to another. I am confused, and any help is appreciated. I ran the config-test, and here is the output: ------------------------------------------------------------ ---------------- Config-test for Majordomo ---------------- ------------------------------------------------------------ --------------------- Obvious things: --------------------- ------------------ environment variables ------------------ HOME=/home/majordom/majordomo-1.94.3 LOGNAME=root MAJORDOMO_CF=/home/majordom/majordomo-1.94.3/majordomo.cf PATH=/bin:/usr/bin:/usr/ucb SHELL=/bin/sh USER=root --------------------- euid/egid checks --------------------- effective user = majordom (uid 503) effective group = majordom wheel disk adm sys daemon bin root (gid 503 10 6 4 3 2 1 0 ) ---------------------- uid/gid checks ---------------------- real user = majordom (uid 503) real group = majordom wheel disk adm sys daemon bin root (gid 503 10 6 4 3 2 1 0 ) ------------------------------------------------------------ Non obvious things that cause headaches: ------------------------------------------------------------ Good: 'require'd /home/majordom/majordomo-1.94.3/majordomo.cf okay. Good: found ctime.pl okay. Good: found majordomo_version.pl okay. Good: found majordomo.pl okay. Good: found shlock.pl okay. Good: found config_parse.pl okay. You're running Majordomo Version 1.94.3. --==> Majordomo home directory is /home/majordom/majordomo-1.94.3. ------------------- Include directories ------------------- /home/majordom/majordomo-1.94.3 /usr/lib/perl5/i386-linux/5.003 /usr/lib/perl5 /usr/lib/perl5/site_perl/i386-linux /usr/lib/perl5/site_perl . --------------------------- Home --------------------------- Good: changedir to /home/majordom/majordomo-1.94.3 succeeded. Good: Created a mock lock file. ---------------------- temp directory ---------------------- Good: Created a temp file in $TMPDIR (/usr/tmp). ---------------------- list directory ---------------------- Good: list directory /home/majordom/majordomo-1.94.3/lists has good permissions. --------------------------- log --------------------------- Good: logfile /home/majordom/majordomo-1.94.3/Log exists and is writeable. ------------------------- Mailers ------------------------- You have defined a mailer for delivery. Attempting to verify that this is a valid mailer...looks okay. You have defined a mailer for delivering administrative messages. Attempting to verify that this is a valid mailer...looks okay. ------------------ Checking majordomo.cf ------------------ Checking to see if there are new variables that should be in your majordomo.cf file... Unknown configuration variables in existing majordomo.cf: $config'default_subscribe_policy Have you configured where Majordomo is? $whereami is svlug.org Good: yup! ----------------------- end of tests ----------------------- Nothing bad found! Majordomo _should_ work correctly. If it doesn't, check your configuration file (/home/majordom/majordomo-1.94.3/majordomo.cf) closely, and if it still looks okay, consider asking the majordomo-users mailing list at "majordomo-users@greatcircle.com" for assistance. Be sure and fully specify what your problems are, and what type of machine (and operating system) you are using. Enjoy! From majordomo-users-owner Fri May 8 01:38:44 1998 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-970926-1) id BAA00195; Fri, 8 May 1998 01:36:49 -0700 (PDT) Received: from wave.com.ph ([203.172.21.105]) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-980202-1) with ESMTP id BAA00182 for ; Fri, 8 May 1998 01:36:41 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (wav@localhost) by wave.com.ph (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id QAA08597 for ; Fri, 8 May 1998 16:27:57 +0800 Date: Fri, 8 May 1998 16:27:57 +0800 (PHT) From: "William A. Villanueva" To: majordomo-users@greatcircle.com Subject: setup problems Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk Hello! I've recently have to reformat my hd and reinstalled Slackware 3.4 (kernel 2.0.30). After reinstalling majordomo-1.94.4, and following the instructions for adding the line: OA/usr/local/majordomo-1.94.4/majordomo.aliases to sendmail.cf. I get the following error after running 'newaliases'or 'sendmail -v -bi' hash map "Alias1": unsafe map file /usr/local/majordomo-1.94.4/majordomo.aliases: Permission denied I didn't have any problems the first time I installed majordomo but this was on Slackware 3.0 with kernel 2.0.0. I can't figure out what I'm missing, unless its some new commands for sendmail.cf Thanks! From majordomo-users-owner Fri May 8 02:24:26 1998 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-970926-1) id CAA00929; Fri, 8 May 1998 02:18:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: from atle.abc.se (atle.abc.se [192.36.170.16]) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-980202-1) with ESMTP id CAA00919 for ; Fri, 8 May 1998 02:18:11 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (m8698@localhost) by atle.abc.se (8.8.8+Sun/8.8.8) with SMTP id LAA01364; Fri, 8 May 1998 11:19:04 +0200 (MET DST) X-Authentication-Warning: atle.abc.se: m8698 owned process doing -bs Date: Fri, 8 May 1998 10:19:04 +0100 (MET) From: Mats Dufberg X-Sender: m8698@atle To: "William A. Villanueva" cc: majordomo-users@GreatCircle.COM Subject: Re: setup problems In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk On Fri, 8 May 1998, William A. Villanueva wrote: > OA/usr/local/majordomo-1.94.4/majordomo.aliases > to sendmail.cf. I get the following error after running 'newaliases'or > 'sendmail -v -bi' > > hash map "Alias1": unsafe map file > /usr/local/majordomo-1.94.4/majordomo.aliases: Permission denied Move /usr/local/majordomo-1.94.4/majordomo.aliases to /etc. Do chown root majordomo.aliases chmod 644 majordomo.aliases ----------------------------------------------------------------- Mats Dufberg Mats.Dufberg@abc.se From majordomo-users-owner Fri May 8 02:53:36 1998 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-970926-1) id CAA01638; Fri, 8 May 1998 02:41:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: from stonehenge.wwide.com ([151.196.203.4]) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-980202-1) with ESMTP id CAA01631 for ; Fri, 8 May 1998 02:41:41 -0700 (PDT) Received: from stanley (kcuf@1Cust245.tnt3.sea1.da.uu.net [208.253.65.245]) by stonehenge.wwide.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id CAA06794 for ; Fri, 8 May 1998 02:51:51 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199805080951.CAA06794@stonehenge.wwide.com> From: "Scott Wittenberg" Organization: Hosting 2000 - http://www.hosting2000.com To: majordomo-users@GreatCircle.COM Date: Fri, 8 May 1998 02:41:23 +0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Subject: Digest Problem Reply-to: scott@hosting2000.com References: In-reply-to: Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk Hi. I sent this once before but got no response... I have a mailing list running and I want to add digests. Here is what I currently have in my aliases file: #domo sample majordomo-sample: "|/opt/majordomo-1.94.4/wrapper majordomo -C /home5/sample/sample.cf" owner-majordomo: sample majordomo-owner: sample #domo sam sam: "|/opt/majordomo-1.94.4/wrapper resend -l sam sam-list" sam-list: :include:/opt/majordomo-1.94.4/lists/sam owner-sam: sample sam-owner: sample sam-request: "|/opt/majordomo-1.94.4/wrapper majordomo -l sam" Can anyone please tell me what I need to add to this to have digests? Thank you. Scott From majordomo-users-owner Fri May 8 06:30:52 1998 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-970926-1) id GAA05562; Fri, 8 May 1998 06:09:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: from 206.175.98.153 (hdn89-153.hil.compuserve.com [206.175.98.153]) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-980202-1) with SMTP id GAA05543; Fri, 8 May 1998 06:08:55 -0700 (PDT) Date: Fri, 8 May 1998 06:08:55 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199805081308.GAA05543@honor.greatcircle.com> Subject: Independent Price Survey of 175 Life Insurance Companies Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk Visit http://207.93.198.41/budmaster.htm to see the results of a recent independent survey of over 175 life insurance companies. Here is a sample: GUARANTEED MONTHLY PREMIUM FOR $250,000 FOR 10 YEAR TERM: Age Sex Preferred Health Standard Health 25 M $14.14 $17.18 25 F $11.96 $14.36 35 M $14.14 $17.18 35 F $11.96 $14.36 45 M $30.01 $36.68 45 F $20.47 $25.20 55 M $59.72 $77.85 55 F $44.41 $52.88 WE ARE NOT AFFILIATED WITH THE INSURANCE INDUSTRY... ..so these are not quotes. We are computer specialists, and we publish information. So take advantage of months of research and development. DON'T TALK TO AN AGENT UNTIL YOU GET THE FACTS http://207.93.198.41/budmaster.htm From majordomo-users-owner Fri May 8 08:23:56 1998 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-970926-1) id IAA07422; Fri, 8 May 1998 08:11:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: from peking.duc.auburn.edu (peking.duc.auburn.edu [131.204.85.205]) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-980202-1) with ESMTP id IAA07415 for ; Fri, 8 May 1998 08:11:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: from peking (peking [131.204.85.205]) by peking.duc.auburn.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id KAA01811 for ; Fri, 8 May 1998 10:12:46 -0500 (CDT) Message-Id: <199805081512.KAA01811@peking.duc.auburn.edu> Date: Fri, 8 May 1998 10:12:46 -0500 (CDT) From: David Swanger Reply-To: David Swanger Subject: Name and address in from line To: majordomo-users@greatcircle.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-MD5: GhTvawelyJWbFqII8fh42w== X-Mailer: dtmail 1.2.1 CDE Version 1.2.1 SunOS 5.6 sun4m sparc Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk A user here wants a mailing list that has an extended name of the list in the "To:" field, such as: To: "The Really Cool List" Is there a way to add this capability to a majordomo list? Thanks for any help you can send. -- David Swanger University Computing Auburn University, AL swangdb@mail.auburn.edu From majordomo-users-owner Fri May 8 08:53:46 1998 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-970926-1) id IAA08124; Fri, 8 May 1998 08:48:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: from neptune.pegasus.cranfield.ac.uk (neptune.pegasus.cranfield.ac.uk [138.250.1.185]) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-980202-1) with SMTP id IAA08116 for ; Fri, 8 May 1998 08:47:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nassau.pegasus.cranfield.ac.uk [138.250.1.183] by neptune.pegasus.cranfield.ac.uk with smtp (Exim 1.82 #1) id 0yXpNi-0005ys-00; Fri, 8 May 1998 16:48:18 +0100 Date: Fri, 8 May 1998 16:48:16 +0100 (BST) From: Jeffrey Goldberg X-Sender: cc047@nassau.pegasus.cranfield.ac.uk Reply-To: Jeffrey Goldberg To: David Swanger cc: majordomo-users@GreatCircle.COM Subject: Re: Name and address in from line In-Reply-To: <199805081512.KAA01811@peking.duc.auburn.edu> Message-ID: Organization: Cranfield University Computer Centre MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk On Fri, 8 May 1998, David Swanger wrote: > A user here wants a mailing list that has an extended name > of the list in the "To:" field, such as: > > To: "The Really Cool List" > > Is there a way to add this capability to a majordomo list? It's the person who sends the message who determines what is in the To line. It would really be a very bad thing to tinker with that. If you have a list with a Reply-To list (not really a good idea, except in unusual circumstances of a very small tight list or a small list with very experienced participants), then you could do things that would encourage individual users software to construct to's like that. -j -- Jeffrey Goldberg +44 (0)1234 750 111 x 2826 Cranfield Computer Centre FAX 751 814 J.Goldberg@Cranfield.ac.uk http://WWW.Cranfield.ac.uk/public/cc/cc047/ Relativism is the triumph of authority over truth, convention over justice. From majordomo-users-owner Fri May 8 09:09:25 1998 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-970926-1) id JAA08438; Fri, 8 May 1998 09:02:49 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ns2.hps-inc.com (ns2.hps-inc.com [204.167.91.2]) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-980202-1) with ESMTP id JAA08431 for ; Fri, 8 May 1998 09:02:44 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [204.167.91.219] (thavens-mac.hps-inc.com [204.167.91.219]) by ns2.hps-inc.com (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id MAA00549 for ; Fri, 8 May 1998 12:04:14 -0400 Message-Id: <199805081604.MAA00549@ns2.hps-inc.com> X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express for Macintosh - 4.0c (197) Date: Fri, 08 May 1998 12:16:23 -0400 From: "Tim Havens" To: Majordomo-Users@greatcircle.com Mime-version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 Content-type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk From majordomo-users-owner Fri May 8 09:23:40 1998 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-970926-1) id JAA08520; Fri, 8 May 1998 09:06:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ns2.hps-inc.com (ns2.hps-inc.com [204.167.91.2]) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-980202-1) with ESMTP id JAA08511 for ; Fri, 8 May 1998 09:05:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [204.167.91.219] (thavens-mac.hps-inc.com [204.167.91.219]) by ns2.hps-inc.com (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id MAA00576 for ; Fri, 8 May 1998 12:07:29 -0400 Message-Id: <199805081607.MAA00576@ns2.hps-inc.com> X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express for Macintosh - 4.0c (197) Date: Fri, 08 May 1998 12:19:38 -0400 Subject: doI want to use resrict_post??? From: "Tim Havens" To: Majordomo-Users@greatcircle.com Mime-version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 Content-type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk I am trying to find a way to allow ONLY people who are already on the my majordomo list to POST to the list. Can someone tell me the exact steps to take? I thought I just had to specify the list file in 'restrict_post = ' and then change the 'open' items to 'list' and that would do it...but it doesn't seem to...maybe I'm missing something... Any ideas? Tim Havens thavens@hps-inc.com From majordomo-users-owner Fri May 8 09:38:36 1998 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-970926-1) id JAA09205; Fri, 8 May 1998 09:37:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: from stingray.ivision.co.uk (stingray.ivision.co.uk [195.50.91.40]) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-980202-1) with SMTP id JAA09198 for ; Fri, 8 May 1998 09:37:43 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pretender.ivision.co.uk [195.50.91.43] by stingray.ivision.co.uk with smtp (Exim 1.62 #2) id 0yXqAt-0006xV-00; Fri, 8 May 1998 17:39:07 +0100 Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.19980508173758.0095d100@stingray.ivision.co.uk> X-Sender: manarpop@stingray.ivision.co.uk X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.5 (32) Date: Fri, 08 May 1998 17:37:58 +0100 To: "Tim Havens" From: Manar Hussain Subject: Re: doI want to use resrict_post??? Cc: Majordomo-Users@greatcircle.com In-Reply-To: <199805081607.MAA00576@ns2.hps-inc.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk >Can someone tell me the exact steps to take? > >I thought I just had to specify the list file in 'restrict_post = ' >and then change the 'open' items to 'list' and that would do it...but it >doesn't seem to...maybe I'm missing something... Give the full path for the fil in and then it should work fine. If not something else is going wrong. Common on is some who is subscribed can't post because they are posting with a different email address from the addres that is subscribed. Manar From majordomo-users-owner Fri May 8 10:08:37 1998 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-970926-1) id JAA09586; Fri, 8 May 1998 09:56:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ns2.hps-inc.com (ns2.hps-inc.com [204.167.91.2]) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-980202-1) with ESMTP id JAA09571 for ; Fri, 8 May 1998 09:55:53 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [204.167.91.219] (thavens-mac.hps-inc.com [204.167.91.219]) by ns2.hps-inc.com (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id MAA01068 for ; Fri, 8 May 1998 12:57:24 -0400 Message-Id: <199805081657.MAA01068@ns2.hps-inc.com> X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express for Macintosh - 4.0c (197) Date: Fri, 08 May 1998 13:09:33 -0400 Subject: FW: doI want to use resrict_post??? From: "Tim Havens" To: Majordomo-Users@greatcircle.com Mime-version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 Content-type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk Okay I resolved this one...thanks for those who helped me. Tim ---------- From: "Tim Havens" To: Majordomo-Users@GreatCircle.COM Subject: doI want to use resrict_post??? Date: Fri, May 8, 1998, 12:19 PM I am trying to find a way to allow ONLY people who are already on the my majordomo list to POST to the list. Can someone tell me the exact steps to take? I thought I just had to specify the list file in 'restrict_post = ' and then change the 'open' items to 'list' and that would do it...but it doesn't seem to...maybe I'm missing something... Any ideas? Tim Havens thavens@hps-inc.com From majordomo-users-owner Fri May 8 10:38:48 1998 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-970926-1) id KAA10686; Fri, 8 May 1998 10:33:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: from vegas.mirrorimage.net (vegas.mirrorimage.net [209.6.100.66]) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-980202-1) with ESMTP id KAA10679 for ; Fri, 8 May 1998 10:33:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: from vegas.mirrorimage.net (vegas.mirrorimage.net [209.6.100.66]) by vegas.mirrorimage.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id OAA26991 for ; Fri, 8 May 1998 14:02:13 -0400 Date: Fri, 8 May 1998 14:02:13 -0400 (EDT) From: Keith Libitz X-Sender: keithl@vegas.mirrorimage.net To: majordomo-users@greatcircle.com Subject: Aliasing/Fowarding Loop Broken: Permission Denied Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk I have hopefully included enough info so I can get a solution to this error. Here is what happens when I try to mail a majordomo list: Subject: Returned mail: chatter-list... aliasing/forwarding loop broken ----- Transcript of session follows ----- 550 :include:/usr/local/majordomo-1.94.4/lists/chatter... Cannot open /usr/local/majordomo-1.94.4/lists/chatter: Permission denied 554 chatter-list... aliasing/forwarding loop broken Now here is what I get when I run wrapper config-test as myself: ------------------------------------------------------------ ---------------- Config-test for Majordomo ---------------- ------------------------------------------------------------ --------------------- Obvious things: --------------------- ------------------ environment variables ------------------ HOME=/usr/local/majordomo-1.94.4 LOGNAME=keithl MAJORDOMO_CF=/usr/local/majordomo-1.94.4/majordomo.cf PATH=/bin:/usr/bin:/usr/ucb SHELL=/bin/sh USER=keithl --------------------- euid/egid checks --------------------- effective user = Majordomo (uid 535) effective group = Majordomo keithl users (gid 536 505 100 ) ---------------------- uid/gid checks ---------------------- real user = Majordomo (uid 535) real group = Majordomo keithl users (gid 536 505 100 ) ------------------------------------------------------------ Non obvious things that cause headaches: ------------------------------------------------------------ Good: 'require'd /usr/local/majordomo-1.94.4/majordomo.cf okay. Good: found ctime.pl okay. Good: found majordomo_version.pl okay. Good: found majordomo.pl okay. Good: found shlock.pl okay. Good: found config_parse.pl okay. You're running Majordomo Version 1.94.4. --==> Majordomo home directory is /usr/local/majordomo-1.94.4. ------------------- Include directories ------------------- /usr/local/majordomo-1.94.4 /usr/lib/perl5/i386-linux/5.003 /usr/lib/perl5 /usr/lib/perl5/site_perl/i386-linux /usr/lib/perl5/site_perl . --------------------------- Home --------------------------- Good: changedir to /usr/local/majordomo-1.94.4 succeeded. Good: Created a mock lock file. ---------------------- temp directory ---------------------- Good: Created a temp file in $TMPDIR (/usr/tmp). ---------------------- list directory ---------------------- Good: list directory /usr/local/majordomo-1.94.4/lists has good permissions. --------------------------- log --------------------------- Good: logfile /usr/local/majordomo-1.94.4/Log exists and is writeable. ------------------------- Mailers ------------------------- You have defined a mailer for delivery. Attempting to verify that this is a valid mailer...looks okay. You have defined a mailer for delivering administrative messages. Attempting to verify that this is a valid mailer...looks okay. ------------------ Checking majordomo.cf ------------------ Checking to see if there are new variables that should be in your majordomo.cf file...Nope, none that I see. Have you configured where Majordomo is? $whereami is mirror-image.com Good: yup! ----------------------- end of tests ----------------------- Nothing bad found! Majordomo _should_ work correctly. I have also made sure to follow the FAQ and set all permissions on the majordomo files to the suggested permissions. I have also added the correct trusted users to my sendmail configuration. Any help is greatly appreciated! Regards, Keith From majordomo-users-owner Fri May 8 11:23:36 1998 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-970926-1) id LAA11483; Fri, 8 May 1998 11:22:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: from thor.oss.uswest.net (thor.oss.uswest.net [204.147.85.85]) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-980202-1) with ESMTP id LAA11476 for ; Fri, 8 May 1998 11:22:19 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from bryana@localhost) by thor.oss.uswest.net (8.8.8/8.8.7) id NAA02369; Fri, 8 May 1998 13:23:44 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from bryana) Message-ID: <19980508132344.A2308@thor.oss.uswest.net> Date: Fri, 8 May 1998 13:23:44 -0500 From: Bryan Albright To: majordomo-users@GreatCircle.COM Subject: Majordomo v1.92 and +confirm Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.91.1 Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk I'm trying to help a friend configure a list through mixcom.com (who uses majordomo v1.92). Does 1.92 support the "+confirm" policy on subscriptions? What is the earliest version of majordomo that supports it? Is it 1.94.4? thanks, Bryan -- +----------------------------+--------------------------+ | Bryan Albright | bryana@uswest.net | +----------------------------+--------------------------+ | "Luke... Luke... Use the MOUSE, Luke" - Obi Wan Gates | +-------------------------------------------------------+ From majordomo-users-owner Fri May 8 13:53:41 1998 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-970926-1) id NAA13527; Fri, 8 May 1998 13:49:54 -0700 (PDT) Received: from atle.abc.se (atle.abc.se [192.36.170.16]) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-980202-1) with ESMTP id NAA13520 for ; Fri, 8 May 1998 13:49:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (m8698@localhost) by atle.abc.se (8.8.8+Sun/8.8.8) with SMTP id WAA16953; Fri, 8 May 1998 22:50:55 +0200 (MET DST) X-Authentication-Warning: atle.abc.se: m8698 owned process doing -bs Date: Fri, 8 May 1998 21:50:55 +0100 (MET) From: Mats Dufberg X-Sender: m8698@atle To: Keith Libitz cc: majordomo-users@GreatCircle.COM Subject: Re: Aliasing/Fowarding Loop Broken: Permission Denied In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk On Fri, 8 May 1998, Keith Libitz wrote: > ----- Transcript of session follows ----- > 550 :include:/usr/local/majordomo-1.94.4/lists/chatter... > Cannot open /usr/local/majordomo-1.94.4/lists/chatter: Permission denied > 554 chatter-list... aliasing/forwarding loop broken Increase the read rights of /usr/local/majordomo-1.94.4/lists/chatter Test the rights by doing head /usr/local/majordomo-1.94.4/lists/chatter as a non-privileged user. ----------------------------------------------------------------- Mats Dufberg Mats.Dufberg@abc.se From majordomo-users-owner Fri May 8 14:08:48 1998 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-970926-1) id NAA13709; Fri, 8 May 1998 13:58:29 -0700 (PDT) Received: from o2.towery.com (o2.towery.com [207.15.173.30]) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-980202-1) with ESMTP id NAA13702 for ; Fri, 8 May 1998 13:58:23 -0700 (PDT) Received: from towery.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by o2.towery.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id PAA25790; Tue, 5 May 1998 15:21:08 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: <354F74B3.8416497@towery.com> Date: Tue, 05 May 1998 15:21:07 -0500 From: Ernest Mueller Organization: Towery Publishing X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (X11; I; IRIX 6.3 IP32) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Michael David , Majordomo List Subject: Re: virtual domains & digests References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk Michael David wrote: > > I have some virtual domains on one machine, and they each > have their own set of majordomo lists. Majordomo has been > installed just once. Majordomo and resend are called with a > different .cf file depending on the domain the mail is sent > to. > > Everything was fine until I tried making digests. At that > point, it became evident that majordomo's "mkdigest" command > calls the "digest" program, which offers the choice of using > the global config file and the list config file (-C -l > listname), or the choice of using one alternative config > file (-c config). > > Wouldn't it make sense to have "digest" inherit the global > configuration from the "majordomo" that called it? I fixed this in the code - see my page on setting up virtual majordomo at http://o2.towery.com/~ernestm/admin/majordomo/majorvirt.html. It actually works fine with both -C and -c, if you change the line in majordomo reading open(DIGEST,"$homedir/digest -m -C -l $list $list_outgoing 2>&1 |"); to open(DIGEST,"$homedir/digest -m -C -c $cf -l $list $list_outgoing 2>&1 |"); Also note that you can't just send it a "mkdigest listname pasword" for virtual digests, because it tries to call the outgoing list "listname-outgoing", disregarding any domain-specific stuff. A little documented feature indicates you can send "mkdigest listname listname-domain-outgoing password". Ernest -- Ernest C. Mueller ernestm@towery.com Webmaster Phone: (901) 251-7000 Towery Publishing http://www.towery.com From majordomo-users-owner Fri May 8 14:53:41 1998 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-970926-1) id OAA14733; Fri, 8 May 1998 14:51:35 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ncr-sd.SanDiegoCA.NCR.COM (h153-64-251-18.NCR.COM [153.64.251.18]) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-980202-1) with ESMTP id OAA14726 for ; Fri, 8 May 1998 14:51:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: from jabberwocky (jabberwocky.SanDiegoCA.NCR.COM [153.64.69.123]) by ncr-sd.SanDiegoCA.NCR.COM (8.8.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id OAA22075 for ; Fri, 8 May 1998 14:52:38 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199805082152.OAA22075@ncr-sd.SanDiegoCA.NCR.COM> X-Sender: bhoule@www.sandiegoca.ncr.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.0 Date: Fri, 08 May 1998 14:55:10 -0700 To: majordomo-users@greatcircle.com From: Bill Houle Subject: message_fronter/footer failure Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk Anyone seen the following? We have some lists -- Mj 1.94.4 -- with message fronters and/or footers enabled. 99.99% of the time they work. But occasionally, they don't get added. No rhyme/reason or predictability to their failure. The list owners are asking why and I haven't a clue. The aliases are automated and will always use resend. --bill From majordomo-users-owner Fri May 8 17:53:45 1998 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-970926-1) id RAA17035; Fri, 8 May 1998 17:44:55 -0700 (PDT) Received: from martin.luther.edu (martin.luther.edu [192.203.196.20]) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-980202-1) with ESMTP id RAA17028 for ; Fri, 8 May 1998 17:44:50 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost by martin.luther.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.20/16.2) id AA044075369; Fri, 8 May 1998 19:56:09 -0500 Date: Fri, 8 May 1998 19:56:09 -0500 (CDT) From: Baris Mestanogullari To: majordomo-users@greatcircle.com Subject: subject_prefix & message_footer Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk Hello, I've been trying to get subject_prefix and message_footer working on my RH 5.0 box (pII 266) and unfortunately I still couldn't. The list config file is 'lcug.config' and this is how the two fields look like: message_footer << END --- Luther Computer User's Group Mailing List To unsubscribe, email 'majordomo@deere.luther.edu' with 'unsubscribe $LIST' in the body of the message. END subject_prefix = [ LCUG ] Can anybody see anything wrong with this and maybe(hopefully) point me to the right direction? The version of majordomo I'm running is 1.94.4. Please respond to mestanba@martin.luther.edu as I am not subscribed to this mailing list. TIA, Baris From majordomo-users-owner Fri May 8 18:03:12 1998 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-970926-1) id RAA17068; Fri, 8 May 1998 17:46:44 -0700 (PDT) Received: from martin.luther.edu (martin.luther.edu [192.203.196.20]) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-980202-1) with ESMTP id RAA17061 for ; Fri, 8 May 1998 17:46:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost by martin.luther.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.20/16.2) id AA045595482; Fri, 8 May 1998 19:58:02 -0500 Date: Fri, 8 May 1998 19:58:01 -0500 (CDT) From: Baris Mestanogullari To: majordomo-users@greatcircle.com Subject: Re: subject_prefix & message_footer In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk I hate to reply to my own post, but I guess I forgot what the problem was :) The message_footer and subject_prefix don't seem to show up on the posts to the list. (By the way, how did I get this mail since I'm not sub'd?) Thanks again, Baris On Fri, 8 May 1998, Baris Mestanogullari wrote: > Hello, > > I've been trying to get subject_prefix and message_footer working on my RH > 5.0 box (pII 266) and unfortunately I still couldn't. > The list config file is 'lcug.config' and this is how the two fields look > like: > > message_footer << END > --- > Luther Computer User's Group Mailing List > To unsubscribe, email 'majordomo@deere.luther.edu' with > 'unsubscribe $LIST' in the body of the message. > > END > > subject_prefix = [ LCUG ] > > Can anybody see anything wrong with this and maybe(hopefully) point me to > the right direction? The version of majordomo I'm running is 1.94.4. > > Please respond to mestanba@martin.luther.edu as I am not subscribed to > this mailing list. > > TIA, > Baris > > From majordomo-users-owner Fri May 8 18:27:57 1998 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-970926-1) id SAA17625; Fri, 8 May 1998 18:14:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: from siloam.bstream.com (siloam.bstream.com [12.10.104.10]) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-980202-1) with ESMTP id SAA17618 for ; Fri, 8 May 1998 18:14:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: from po88jdunham.galstar.com (rap5 [12.10.104.105]) by siloam.bstream.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id UAA15791; Fri, 8 May 1998 20:15:33 -0500 From: "James Dunham" To: "Baris Mestanogullari" , Subject: Re: subject_prefix & message_footer Date: Fri, 8 May 1998 20:15:13 -0500 Message-ID: <01bd7ae7$eb5210e0$69680a0c@po88jdunham.galstar.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.71.1712.3 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.71.1712.3 Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk I would be interested in this as well. My subject_prefix works, but message_footer doesn't. Thanks, James Dunham -----Original Message----- From: Baris Mestanogullari To: majordomo-users@GreatCircle.COM Date: Friday, May 08, 1998 8:02 PM Subject: subject_prefix & message_footer >Hello, > >I've been trying to get subject_prefix and message_footer working on my RH >5.0 box (pII 266) and unfortunately I still couldn't. >The list config file is 'lcug.config' and this is how the two fields look >like: > >message_footer << END >--- >Luther Computer User's Group Mailing List >To unsubscribe, email 'majordomo@deere.luther.edu' with >'unsubscribe $LIST' in the body of the message. > >END > >subject_prefix = [ LCUG ] > >Can anybody see anything wrong with this and maybe(hopefully) point me to >the right direction? The version of majordomo I'm running is 1.94.4. > >Please respond to mestanba@martin.luther.edu as I am not subscribed to >this mailing list. > >TIA, >Baris From majordomo-users-owner Fri May 8 19:53:38 1998 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-970926-1) id TAA19010; Fri, 8 May 1998 19:43:55 -0700 (PDT) Received: from martin.luther.edu (martin.luther.edu [192.203.196.20]) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-980202-1) with ESMTP id TAA19003 for ; Fri, 8 May 1998 19:43:50 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost by martin.luther.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.20/16.2) id AA113422513; Fri, 8 May 1998 21:55:13 -0500 Date: Fri, 8 May 1998 21:55:13 -0500 (CDT) From: Baris Mestanogullari To: majordomo-users@greatcircle.com Subject: list config files Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk Do I have to do anything after i edit a .config file to tell majordomo that i changed it? I tried renaming it so majordomo would create a new one, but it didn't. So i tried adding some garbage in the beginning of the file to see if it would whine, it didn't say a word. It delivers the mail, but it's not doing anything i say in the configuration file, like subject_prefix or message_footer.. TIA for any help, Baris Windows is NOT a virus... Viruses do something! 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For complete details, and our special URL just drop me a note with the words "FREE OFFICE SUITE" in the subject line to online101@letterbox.com From majordomo-users-owner Sat May 9 01:53:36 1998 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-970926-1) id BAA24283; Sat, 9 May 1998 01:52:49 -0700 (PDT) Received: from svlug.svlug.org (svlug.svlug.org [209.81.8.243]) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-980202-1) with ESMTP id BAA24276 for ; Sat, 9 May 1998 01:52:43 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from rob@localhost) by svlug.svlug.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id BAA21445; Sat, 9 May 1998 01:54:14 -0700 Date: Sat, 9 May 1998 01:54:14 -0700 Message-Id: <199805090854.BAA21445@svlug.svlug.org> From: rob walker MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit To: alvin@planet.fef.com Cc: rob@svlug.org, majordomo-users@greatcircle.com Subject: Re: ABORT shlock, digests... In-Reply-To: References: <199805080418.VAA13237@svlug.svlug.org> X-Mailer: VM 6.22 under 19.15p2 XEmacs Lucid Reply-To: rob@svlug.org X-PGP-Fingerprint: CD 3B D7 01 69 A1 DD E3 3E 69 11 23 6D 8E A2 6A Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk [ did I put this to the svlug list? I certainly meant to put it to majordomo-users. hrmm.... ] >>>>> On Thu, 7 May 1998 22:33:20 -0700 (PDT), alvin@planet.fef.com >>>>> (Alvin Oga) said: Alvin> hi ya Rob Alvin> first check your majordomo.cf file.... Alvin> $listdir = "$homedir/Lists.VirtDomain"; $homedir = "/home/majordom/majordomo-1.94.3"; $listdir = "$homedir/lists"; Alvin> $digest_work_dir = "$homedir/DIGEST.VirtDomain"; $digest_work_dir = "/home/majordom/majordomo-1.94.3/lists/digests"; [root@svlug lists]# ls -al /home/majordom/majordomo-1.94.3/lists/digests/ total 7 drw-rw---- 6 majordom majordom 1024 Jan 26 20:44 ./ drwxrwx--- 8 majordom majordom 2048 May 7 22:35 ../ drwxrwxr-x 2 majordom majordom 1024 Apr 6 15:44 ile-digest/ drwxrwxr-x 2 majordom majordom 1024 Apr 1 14:08 svlug-announce-digest/ drwxrwxr-x 2 majordom majordom 1024 Apr 11 16:15 svlug-digest/ drwxrwxr-x 2 majordom majordom 1024 Apr 11 14:41 test-digest/ [root@svlug lists]# Alvin> $filedir = "$homedir/Archive.VirtDomain"; Alvin> $filedir_suffix = ".archive"; we don't hand out files, do I need to worry about those lines? Alvin> # @archive_dirs = ( "$homedir/Archive.VirtDomain/test" ); Alvin> than I'd check your /etc/aliases file Alvin> # Alvin> # the fun/confusing parts... Alvin> # Alvin> test: "|/usr/local/majordomo/wrapper resend -C /usr/local/majordomo/majordomo.cf -l test -r test test-outgoing " Alvin> test-outgoing: :include:/usr/local/majordomo/Lists/test, test-archive, test-digest, DomoMaster Alvin> test-request: "|/usr/local/majordomo/wrapper request-answer -C /usr/local/majordomo/majordomo.cf test " Alvin> test-digest: "|/usr/local/majordomo/wrapper digest -r -C -c /usr/local/majordomo/majordomo.cf -l test-digest test-digest-outgoing" Alvin> test-digest-outgoing: :include:/usr/local/majordomo/Lists/test-digest Alvin> test-digest-request: :"|/usr/local/majordomo/wrapper request-answer -C /usr/local/majordomo/majordomo.cf test-digest" Alvin> test-archive: "|/usr/local/majordomo/wrapper archive2.pl -C /usr/local/majordomo/majordomo.cf -f /usr/local/majordomo/Archive/test.archive/test -m -a" I can post the relevant parts of the /etc/aliases file, do I need to? Alvin> and I don't think I've messed around with the default *.config Alvin> that is magically created... Alvin> and I have..I think a working nightly digest... and this Alvin> excerpted from mj-1.94.1 and seems to work for those mj that I Alvin> mucked around with up to 1.94.4 yeah, the odd part is that my digests used to work, and then they stopped, but I cannot figure out what I changed to cause it. oh, for a better self-enforcement of CVS! thx for the help, rob From majordomo-users-owner Sat May 9 02:24:58 1998 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-970926-1) id CAA24769; Sat, 9 May 1998 02:09:54 -0700 (PDT) Received: from planet (planet.fef.com [198.147.196.14]) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-980202-1) with SMTP id CAA24762 for ; Sat, 9 May 1998 02:09:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: by planet via sendmail with stdio id for majordomo-users@greatcircle.com; Sat, 9 May 1998 02:09:50 -0700 (PDT) (Smail-3.2.0.90 1996-Dec-4 #9 built 1996-Dec-8) Message-Id: From: alvin@planet.fef.com (Alvin Oga) Subject: Re: ABORT shlock, digests... To: rob@svlug.org Date: Sat, 9 May 1998 02:09:50 -0700 (PDT) Cc: alvin@planet.fef.com (Alvin Oga), majordomo-users@greatcircle.com In-Reply-To: <199805090854.BAA21445@svlug.svlug.org> from "rob walker" at May 9, 98 01:54:14 am X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk hi ya Rob > [ did I put this to the svlug list? I certainly meant to put it to > majordomo-users. hrmm.... ] yup... and why is the . and .. directories not 755 think that might(?) cause the digest aborts ?? > [root@svlug lists]# ls -al > /home/majordom/majordomo-1.94.3/lists/digests/ > total 7 > drw-rw---- 6 majordom majordom 1024 Jan 26 20:44 ./ > drwxrwx--- 8 majordom majordom 2048 May 7 22:35 ../ > drwxrwxr-x 2 majordom majordom 1024 Apr 6 15:44 ile-digest/ > drwxrwxr-x 2 majordom majordom 1024 Apr 1 14:08 svlug-announce-digest/ > drwxrwxr-x 2 majordom majordom 1024 Apr 11 16:15 svlug-digest/ > drwxrwxr-x 2 majordom majordom 1024 Apr 11 14:41 test-digest/ > [root@svlug lists]# > > Alvin> $filedir = "$homedir/Archive.VirtDomain"; > Alvin> $filedir_suffix = ".archive"; > > we don't hand out files, do I need to worry about those lines? yes(?), or at least the defaults if you are using list-digest in the /etc/aliases file ?? > I can post the relevant parts of the /etc/aliases file, do I need to? no....just compare with the prev posts > yeah, the odd part is that my digests used to work, and then they > stopped, but I cannot figure out what I changed to cause it. oh, for > a better self-enforcement of CVS! think it's cause of the wrong permissions on . and .. directories above c ya alvin From majordomo-users-owner Sat May 9 06:08:58 1998 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-970926-1) id FAA29725; Sat, 9 May 1998 05:54:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: from primrose.csv.warwick.ac.uk (primrose.csv.warwick.ac.uk [137.205.192.26]) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-980202-1) with ESMTP id FAA29718 for ; Sat, 9 May 1998 05:53:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from mareb@localhost) by primrose.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.8.7/8.8.8) id NAA04400 for majordomo-users@greatcircle.com; Sat, 9 May 1998 13:09:29 +0100 (BST) From: David Epstein Message-Id: <199805091209.NAA04400@primrose.csv.warwick.ac.uk> Subject: digest_issue To: majordomo-users@greatcircle.com (mju) Date: Sat, 9 May 1998 13:09:27 +0100 (BST) Organization: Maths Institute, Warwick University, Coventry, UK. Acknowledge-To: dbae@maths.warwick.ac.uk X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL32 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk Is the variable digest_issue in the config file incremented automatically by majordomo whenever a digest is issued? Volume 2, issue 3 was sent out a few days ago, but the config files for both the main_list and for the digest_list still say that the next issue will be number 3, as follows: # The issue number of the next issue digest_issue = 3 I am a bit concerned about this, as some of my digests have been overwritten in the recent past. It looks to me from the config entry as though this is about to happen again. I can't understand this, as I have been taking care not to modify the config files while majordomo was sending out digests. Also, I don't want to be continually editing the config file by hand. Could someone who understands the source code for majordomo tell me at what stage of the digest-sending process, the digest_issue variable is incremented by Majordomo. Thanks, David Epstein From majordomo-users-owner Sat May 9 08:24:54 1998 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-970926-1) id IAA01367; Sat, 9 May 1998 08:18:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: from email.mcmail.com (email.mcmail.com [195.44.0.12]) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-980202-1) with ESMTP id IAA01360 for ; Sat, 9 May 1998 08:18:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: from toilet-duck-s- (asn19-77.mcmail.com [195.44.19.77]) by email.mcmail.com (9.9.9/8.8.8) with SMTP id QAA29062 for ; Sat, 9 May 1998 16:19:36 +0100 (BST) Message-ID: <355473ED.583A@mcmail.com> Date: Sat, 09 May 1998 16:19:09 +0100 From: "B'Elanna" Reply-To: BElanna@mcmail.com X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.04GoldC-IDv3b (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: majordomo-users@greatcircle.com Subject: bugs Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk hello, i dont know if i'm asking the right person or anything but i want to start a mailing list so i found the majordomo site and turns out that i need something called perl so i go to download that and i find something that says something about a load of bugs, i was wondering if you could recomend a good version that is bug-free. thank you Louise From majordomo-users-owner Sat May 9 10:23:42 1998 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-970926-1) id KAA02568; Sat, 9 May 1998 10:10:49 -0700 (PDT) Received: from Kitten.mcs.com (Kitten.mcs.com [192.160.127.90]) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-980202-1) with ESMTP id KAA02555 for ; Sat, 9 May 1998 10:10:38 -0700 (PDT) Received: from uucphost.mcs.net (uucp@Uucp1.mcs.net [192.160.127.93]) by Kitten.mcs.com (8.8.7/8.8.2) with ESMTP id MAA05288 for ; Sat, 9 May 1998 12:11:58 -0500 (CDT) Received: (from uucp@localhost) by uucphost.mcs.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id MAA24404 for majordomo-users@greatcircle.com; Sat, 9 May 1998 12:11:57 -0500 (CDT) Received: from david (david [10.168.100.1]) by midrange.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id MAA17452 for ; Sat, 9 May 1998 12:02:04 -0500 Message-Id: <199805091702.MAA17452@midrange.com> X-Sender: david@midrange X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.0.1 Date: Sat, 09 May 1998 11:59:33 -0500 To: Majordomo Users Mailing List From: David Gibbs Subject: Patch to ignore certian email addresses Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk Greetings! I recently had to ban certian people from my mailing lists... so I added a new feature to MAJORDOMO... below is the UNIFIED patch to majordomo to implement this feature. You have to define $ignore_addr in majordomo.cf with a simple list of addresses (or fragments). It may not be the most elegent solution, but it seems to work. Please take care to backup before patching... I've tested this for all of 20 minutes :) david --- majordomo.old Sat May 9 11:25:02 1998 +++ majordomo Sat May 9 11:55:33 1998 @@ -144,6 +144,23 @@ exit 0; } +# Check to see if we should ignore this address + +# This code requires that the $ignore_addr variable be defined in majordomo.cf +# similar to below... +# $ignore_addr = <<'END'; +# itweb\.com +# END + +if (defined($ignore_addr)) { + @ignore_addr = split(/\n/,$ignore_addr); + foreach $t (@ignore_addr) { + if ($reply_to =~ /$t/i) { + &abort( "$whoami: not replying to $reply_to because it is ignored.\n"); + exit 0; + } + } +} if ($return_subject && defined $hdrs{'subject'}) { $sub_addin = ": " . substr($hdrs{'subject'}, 0, 40); } else { -- | Internet: david@midrange.com | WWW: http://www.mcs.net/~gibbs | | ... A man can move mountains, a world can be turned, | and the greatest of distances easily spanned, | When the strength that's invested in making a fist | is transformed into shaking a hand. | | - DMRoth | | Fight Spam! Join CAUCE! == http://www.cauce.org/ From majordomo-users-owner Sat May 9 13:59:47 1998 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-970926-1) id NAA05985; Sat, 9 May 1998 13:44:37 -0700 (PDT) Received: (mcb@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-980202-1) id NAA05972 for majordomo-users@greatcircle.com; Sat, 9 May 1998 13:44:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: from softline.de (ns.softline.de [194.162.82.202]) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-980202-1) with ESMTP id IAA18392 for ; Wed, 6 May 1998 08:09:37 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail2.softline.de ([192.168.1.5]) by ns.softline.de with ESMTP id <10755>; Wed, 6 May 1998 16:13:29 +0100 Received: from mb ([192.168.1.10]) by mail2.softline.de (Netscape Messaging Server 3.5) with SMTP id AAA3F32 for ; Wed, 6 May 1998 17:10:21 +0200 Message-Id: <3.0.1.32.19980506171742.00bee900@dani.softline.de> X-Sender: mbaehr@dani.softline.de X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.1 (32) [G] Date: Wed, 6 May 1998 16:17:42 +0100 To: majordomo-users@GreatCircle.COM From: mbaehr@softline.de (Michael Baehr) Subject: unsubscribe list generation Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk Hello, is it possible to write the unsubscribed users in a own "unsubscribe-list" when they unsubscribe to a list ? If it is possible, how can I realize this ? Thanks in Advance Michael Baehr From majordomo-users-owner Sat May 9 14:03:12 1998 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-970926-1) id NAA05442; Sat, 9 May 1998 13:30:54 -0700 (PDT) Received: (mcb@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-980202-1) id NAA05414 for majordomo-users@greatcircle.com; Sat, 9 May 1998 13:30:44 -0700 (PDT) Received: from bama.ua.edu (bama.ua.edu [130.160.4.114]) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-980202-1) with ESMTP id LAA26205 for ; Tue, 5 May 1998 11:39:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: from law.ua.edu (smtp.law.ua.edu [130.160.234.253]) by bama.ua.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA16343 for ; Tue, 5 May 1998 13:39:22 -0500 (CDT) Received: from LAW/SpoolDir by law.ua.edu (Mercury 1.40); 5 May 98 13:41:53 -0600 Received: from SpoolDir by LAW (Mercury 1.40); 5 May 98 13:41:42 -0600 From: "Terry Davis" Organization: University of Alabama School of Law To: majordomo-users@greatcircle.com Date: Tue, 5 May 1998 13:41:38 CST X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (v2.30) Message-ID: Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk I have compiled a large number of addresses to personally subscribe to a list. Is there a simple way to make Majordomo send the info file for this list to these people that I have added to the list? This is a new list and I want to send the info to all of them. I am using version 1.94.4, Sendmail 8.8 and latest Perl. hanks in advance, Terry From majordomo-users-owner Sat May 9 14:05:28 1998 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-970926-1) id NAA05358; Sat, 9 May 1998 13:29:53 -0700 (PDT) Received: (mcb@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-980202-1) id NAA05348 for majordomo-users@greatcircle.com; Sat, 9 May 1998 13:29:51 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ncr-sd.SanDiegoCA.NCR.COM (h153-64-251-18.NCR.COM [153.64.251.18]) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-980202-1) with ESMTP id MAA25867 for ; Mon, 4 May 1998 12:19:37 -0700 (PDT) Received: from jabberwocky (jabberwocky.SanDiegoCA.NCR.COM [153.64.69.123]) by ncr-sd.SanDiegoCA.NCR.COM (8.8.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id MAA11731; Mon, 4 May 1998 12:20:50 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199805041920.MAA11731@ncr-sd.SanDiegoCA.NCR.COM> X-Sender: bhoule@www.sandiegoca.ncr.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.0 Date: Mon, 04 May 1998 12:10:37 -0700 To: petit@univ-valenciennes.fr, majordomo-users@GreatCircle.COM From: Bill Houle Subject: Re: Open list with restricted souscription Cc: petit@flore.univ-valenciennes.fr In-Reply-To: <9805041522.AA22263@flore> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk At 04:22 PM 5/4/98 +0100, petit@univ-valenciennes.fr wrote: > >I will create an open list which authorizes only the souscription >of users of a precis domain (for example only the users who have an email >users@univ-valenciennes.fr ) . > >How can do it ? Check the archives. Look for the "subscribe/nosubscibe" patch. --bill From majordomo-users-owner Sat May 9 14:09:09 1998 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-970926-1) id NAA05273; Sat, 9 May 1998 13:29:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: (mcb@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-980202-1) id NAA05265 for majordomo-users@greatcircle.com; Sat, 9 May 1998 13:29:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: from jag.af.mil (AFLS2.JAG.AF.MIL [132.60.56.8]) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-980202-1) with SMTP id JAA21339 for ; Mon, 4 May 1998 09:48:10 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pbecht.jag.af.mil ([132.60.59.209]) by jag.af.mil (SMI-8.6/970910) with SMTP id LAA18750; Mon, 4 May 1998 11:50:12 -0500 Received: by localhost with Microsoft MAPI; Mon, 4 May 1998 11:51:22 -0500 Message-ID: <01BD7752.F5B14120.pbecht@jag.af.mil> From: Pauline Bechtold To: "'majordomo-users@greatcircle.com'" Subject: majordomo not funcitoning Date: Mon, 4 May 1998 11:51:20 -0500 X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet E-mail/MAPI - 8.0.0.4211 Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk Hey there. I have a little problem. We just moved from a sun 1000 to a sun 450 and now majordomo no longer functions. We upgraded to the newest version 1.94 or whatever it is, ran the config-test which sais everything looks good. Still the messages to majordomo do not appear to be recieved. The program does not appear to be working. Our system admin person asked if there is a script that starts the whole process. Is there? At the present we are not receiving anything. If I try to subscribe new users to a list nothing happens. No messages are sent back. The mail just seems to sit there. Any suggestions. Would appriciate any advice. Thanks Pauline I am at pbecht@aflsa.jag.af.mil From majordomo-users-owner Sat May 9 14:11:17 1998 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-970926-1) id NAA05964; Sat, 9 May 1998 13:44:29 -0700 (PDT) Received: (mcb@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-980202-1) id NAA05954 for majordomo-users@greatcircle.com; Sat, 9 May 1998 13:44:26 -0700 (PDT) Received: from govonca2.gov.on.ca (govonca2.gov.on.ca [192.75.156.245]) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-980202-1) with ESMTP id HAA17290 for ; Wed, 6 May 1998 07:17:37 -0700 (PDT) Received: from oep_tape1 ([142.106.150.4]) by govonca2.gov.on.ca (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id KAA20228; Wed, 6 May 1998 10:21:20 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <35507182.6254@gov.on.ca> Date: Wed, 06 May 1998 10:19:47 -0400 From: Susanne Baker Reply-To: bakers@gov.on.ca Organization: Ontario Ministry of Finance Library Services X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01Gold (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Majordomo-Users@GreatCircle.COM Subject: suspend function? Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk Greetings all! I am looking through my files and trying to remember how (actually, if) the majordomo command for suspending email. Several people on one of my lists use the auto-reply when they are on vacation and I'd like to post a note telling them how to signoff temporarily and sign back on. Am I getting my list softwares confused? many thanks Susanne Baker Systems Librarian Research and Information Services Ontario Ministry of Finance bakers@gov.on.ca (416) 325-1207 (416) 325-1212 From majordomo-users-owner Sat May 9 14:11:31 1998 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-970926-1) id NAA06041; Sat, 9 May 1998 13:45:22 -0700 (PDT) Received: (mcb@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-980202-1) id NAA06031 for majordomo-users@greatcircle.com; Sat, 9 May 1998 13:45:19 -0700 (PDT) Received: from sina.hpc.uh.edu (Sina.HPC.UH.EDU [129.7.3.5]) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-980202-1) with ESMTP id VAA03956 for ; Wed, 6 May 1998 21:28:48 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from tibbs@localhost) by sina.hpc.uh.edu (8.7.3/8.7.3) id XAA04630; Wed, 6 May 1998 23:30:10 -0500 (CDT) To: "Rich Andrews, Sr. UNIX Administrator, SMU" Cc: majordomo-users@GreatCircle.COM Subject: Re: majordomo and "sub-scribe" References: <980506200058.ZM27948@pony.cis.smu.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 (generated by tm-edit 7.100) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII From: Jason L Tibbitts III Date: 06 May 1998 23:30:10 -0500 In-Reply-To: "Rich Andrews, Sr. UNIX Administrator, SMU"'s message of "Wed, 6 May 1998 20:00:57 -0500" Message-ID: Lines: 10 X-Mailer: Gnus v5.6.9/Emacs 19.34 Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk >>>>> "RA" == Rich Andrews, Sr UNIX Administrator, SMU writes: RA> Is there anything that I can do to resolve this issue short of telling RA> the users not to use words like that? You can, of course, turn off administrivia checking. You could also approve the messages. The relevant information is in the list's configuration file and in the list-owner-info document. - J< From majordomo-users-owner Sat May 9 14:16:17 1998 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-970926-1) id NAA05398; Sat, 9 May 1998 13:30:15 -0700 (PDT) Received: (mcb@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-980202-1) id NAA05386 for majordomo-users@greatcircle.com; Sat, 9 May 1998 13:30:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: from natacha.ambrasoft.lu (natacha.ambrasoft.lu [194.154.208.7]) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-980202-1) with ESMTP id DAA16750 for ; Tue, 5 May 1998 03:33:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: by natacha.ambrasoft.lu with Internet Mail Service (5.0.1458.49) id ; Tue, 5 May 1998 12:25:52 +0200 Message-ID: <113BA733C237D011BFA74854E82102F6332072@natacha.ambrasoft.lu> From: CARPENTIER Michel To: "'majordomo-users@greatcircle.com'" Subject: Address identification in list files Date: Tue, 5 May 1998 12:25:50 +0200 X-Priority: 3 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.0.1458.49) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk Hi all, I wonder if there's a way to add information to the e-mail address in a list file. For example, the RFC says that e-mail addresses may have the format like "Michel Carpentier ", but, if you try to subscribe this address, only the "mca@ambrasoft.lu" is inserted in the list file. This might be usefull to get a bit more information on the person zubscribed to your list, for example in case of bounced mail.... Any idea ? Maybe this is solved in Mj 2.0, but another question is when will it be released ? If I remember, we're talking about it for more than a year now.... Many thanks, --Mike, -----------------------%<---------------------------- Michel Carpentier Ambrasoft mca@ambrasoft.lu Tel : +352 403420 226 ICQ : 6898839 (http://www.icq.com/) All the 70th Academy Awards on http://www.oscar.com From majordomo-users-owner Sat May 9 14:17:20 1998 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-970926-1) id NAA06137; Sat, 9 May 1998 13:46:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: (mcb@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-980202-1) id NAA06129 for majordomo-users@greatcircle.com; Sat, 9 May 1998 13:46:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nyahsa2.nyahsa.org (mail.nyahsa.org [209.203.152.18]) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-980202-1) with ESMTP id GAA05740 for ; Fri, 8 May 1998 06:21:56 -0700 (PDT) Received: from tim.nyahsa.org (tim [192.168.100.11]) by nyahsa2.nyahsa.org (8.8.6 (PHNE_14041)/8.7.3) with SMTP id JAA01840 for ; Fri, 8 May 1998 09:23:52 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <2.2.32.19980508132433.0068fc14@192.168.100.2> X-Sender: tim@192.168.100.2 X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 2.2 (32) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Fri, 08 May 1998 09:24:33 -0400 To: majordomo-users@greatcircle.com From: Tim Barber Subject: Additional info Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk I seem to recall reading it somewhere in the documentation - or maybe it is just my imagination, but I am wondering if you can have subscribers include additional information on there subscribe request, i.e. there real name and company. Can anyone tell me how to do this. Could I please have an example of a subscribe line that has this info on it. Thanks in advance. Tim Timothy Barber Director of Technology Services New York Association of Homes and Services for the Aging (NYAHSA) 150 State Street, Suite 301 Albany, NY 12207 Email:tim@nyahsa.org Phone: 518-449-2707 x 35 Fax: 518-455-8908 From majordomo-users-owner Sat May 9 14:18:53 1998 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-970926-1) id NAA06005; Sat, 9 May 1998 13:44:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: (mcb@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-980202-1) id NAA05995 for majordomo-users@greatcircle.com; Sat, 9 May 1998 13:44:50 -0700 (PDT) Received: from tiburon.mylex.com ([206.216.93.15]) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-980202-1) with ESMTP id PAA29122 for ; Wed, 6 May 1998 15:31:16 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mylex.com ([204.32.127.104]) by tiburon.mylex.com (Netscape Messaging Server 3.0) with ESMTP id AAA7728; Wed, 6 May 1998 15:28:59 -0700 Message-ID: <35507D15.5D08F759@mylex.com> Date: Wed, 06 May 1998 15:09:10 +0000 From: Dan Deremiah X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (X11; I; Linux 2.0.32 i586) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Majordomo-Users@GreatCircle.COM Subject: subscriber restrict, and reply address Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk OK here are a couple of easy (for experienced users) questions that I need to ask after reading the FAQ and much of the included docs in version 1.94.4. I have perl 5.004, solaris 2.5.x, and sendmail as my transport agent. 1) I want to automatically restrict the subscribers to a everyone in "*this.domain". I have set up advertise so that outside domains can't see the lists with the 'lists' command, but that seems to have no effect on who can actually subscribe. 2) How do I set the return address with majordomo, so that the return address is majordomo@this.domain instead of majordomo@machinein.this.domain. So when people reply to a request it goes to the correct mail exchanger. Thanks in advance for the help, dand From majordomo-users-owner Sat May 9 14:23:02 1998 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-970926-1) id NAA06214; Sat, 9 May 1998 13:46:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: (mcb@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-980202-1) id NAA06194 for majordomo-users@greatcircle.com; Sat, 9 May 1998 13:46:38 -0700 (PDT) Received: from iglou.com (iglou1.iglou.com [192.107.41.3]) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-980202-1) with SMTP id NAA13148 for ; Fri, 8 May 1998 13:27:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pweber by iglou.com with smtp (8.7.3/8.6.12) id 0yXtai-0005Ck-00; Fri, 8 May 1998 16:18:00 -0400 Date: Fri, 8 May 1998 16:17:59 -0400 (EDT) From: Russell X-Sender: pweber@iglou1 To: Majordomo-Users@GreatCircle.COM Subject: moderated list not working Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk Hello All, I am hoping somone here might have seen the problem I am having, and could help me solve it. I have set up a moderated list, at least I think I have the settings correct for a moderated list. Anyway, the problem is anyone can post to this list, without majordomo sending a message to me for approval or rejection. I have checked and checked, and re-checked the config file and the setting says moderate = yes and moderate = my email address. I have also tried to set up restrit_post, but that has not helped at all, anyone can still post to the list, without any intervention from me. I have run config-test through the wrapper and it tells me that everyhing looks ok. I have run out of things to look for that might be wrong, any help from this group will be greatly appreciated. Specs are: Dec Alpha running digital unix 4.0B Majordomo 1.94.4 Perl 5.004 Sendmail, I dont know the version, but it came with 4.0B Thanks From majordomo-users-owner Sat May 9 14:23:53 1998 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-970926-1) id NAA05915; Sat, 9 May 1998 13:42:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: from valleys.ndirect.co.uk (mail.valleys.ndirect.co.uk [195.99.165.238]) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-980202-1) with ESMTP id NAA05899 for ; Sat, 9 May 1998 13:42:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (merlin@localhost) by valleys.ndirect.co.uk (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id VAA03884; Sat, 9 May 1998 21:09:36 +0100 Date: Sat, 9 May 1998 21:09:36 +0100 (BST) From: Darren Wyn Rees X-Sender: merlin@valleys To: BElanna@mcmail.com cc: majordomo-users@GreatCircle.COM Subject: Re: bugs Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk BElanna@mcmail.com on 09 May 1998 : >but i want to > start a mailing list so i found the majordomo site and turns out that i > need something called perl so i go to download that and i find something > that says something about a load of bugs If you're looking to set up a mailing list and you want the minimum of fuss go to http://www.onelist.com (which seems to be one of the better of the _completely free list services). You'll need to register - it'll take two minutes. It'll take a further couple of minutes to name and set up your mailing list. Archiving is done for you, neatly threaded & searchable and on the Web. It's all very easy, very efficient, very neat. And it'll cost you nothing. You can even moderate the list if you want to. If, however, you decide to stay with Majordomo... and many thousands of us do, as it's the best there is. This is _the right forum for Majordomo *specific* questions. Rgds, -- \/ Darren Wyn Rees merlin@valleys.ndirect.co.uk /\ http://www.netspace.org/cgi-bin/lwgate/VALLEYS-L/ From majordomo-users-owner Sat May 9 14:27:00 1998 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-970926-1) id NAA06177; Sat, 9 May 1998 13:46:23 -0700 (PDT) Received: (mcb@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-980202-1) id NAA06151 for majordomo-users@greatcircle.com; Sat, 9 May 1998 13:46:18 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mtigwc05.worldnet.att.net (mtigwc05.worldnet.att.net [204.127.131.35]) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-980202-1) with ESMTP id HAA06719 for ; Fri, 8 May 1998 07:16:15 -0700 (PDT) Received: from brianspc ([12.65.20.26]) by mtigwc05.worldnet.att.net (post.office MTA v2.0 0613 ) with SMTP id AAA8404 for ; Fri, 8 May 1998 14:17:38 +0000 From: "J. Brian Thomason" To: Subject: Unsubscribing folks Date: Fri, 8 May 1998 07:14:22 -0700 Message-ID: <001e01bd7a8b$991e8940$1331ae98@brianspc> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 In-Reply-To: Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk I **know** I saw this somewhere... but is there a character limit for majordomo instructions? I've just taken over a list for someone and can't find the answer... when I try to unsubscribe someone that somehow is on as: FirstName LastName userid@domain.com I get the message that FirstName LastName is not a subscriber then I get the error message that userid@domain.com is not a valid command. Where and how do I truncate this? approve password unsubscribe listname@majordomo.domain.com FirstName LastName userid@domain.com Thanks for your help! ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ J. Brian Thomason, JBThomason@paracepts.com Partner, Paradigm Concepts, http://www.paracepts.com Reframing the present to engage the future ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ From majordomo-users-owner Sat May 9 14:30:09 1998 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-970926-1) id NAA05949; Sat, 9 May 1998 13:44:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: (mcb@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-980202-1) id NAA05941 for majordomo-users@greatcircle.com; Sat, 9 May 1998 13:44:10 -0700 (PDT) Received: from motgate.mot.com (motgate.mot.com [129.188.136.100]) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-980202-1) with ESMTP id GAA16260 for ; Wed, 6 May 1998 06:00:54 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pobox.mot.com (pobox.mot.com [129.188.137.100]) by motgate.mot.com (8.8.5/8.6.10/MOT-3.8) with ESMTP id IAA16410 for ; Wed, 6 May 1998 08:01:56 -0500 (CDT) Comments: ( Received on motgate.mot.com from client pobox.mot.com, sender doerbeck@dma.isg.mot.com ) Received: from prospero.dma.isg.mot.com (prospero.dma.isg.mot.com [150.20.1.20]) by pobox.mot.com (8.8.5/8.6.10/MOT-3.8) with ESMTP id IAA11093 for ; Wed, 6 May 1998 08:01:55 -0500 (CDT) Received: from dma.isg.mot.com (dunsel.dma.isg.mot.com [150.21.3.18]) by prospero.dma.isg.mot.com (8.7.5/8.6.12) with ESMTP id JAA06841 for ; Wed, 6 May 1998 09:01:55 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <199805061301.JAA06841@prospero.dma.isg.mot.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 1.6.9 8/22/96 To: majordomo-users@GreatCircle.COM Subject: Cascading lists... Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Wed, 06 May 1998 09:01:54 -0400 From: Christoph Doerbeck Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk Well, I tried to find the answer in the FAQ & Archives, but no luck. What pitfalls do I run into if I cascade some lists together. example: I want to create several locational lists, which users subscribe to. I want to then address all the people on all lists via a super-list which contains only other lists (no individual users). Users would not be allowed to subscribe to the all-inclusive list. Reccomendations for/against this? If you recommend against this, what technique would you recommend? An alternative would be to create a normal mail alias which points to the various lists, but I would not be able to moderate the "super-post". ######################################## # Christoph Doerbeck # Motorola ISG # email: doerbeck@dma.isg.mot.com From majordomo-users-owner Sat May 9 14:30:56 1998 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-970926-1) id NAA06026; Sat, 9 May 1998 13:45:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: (mcb@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-980202-1) id NAA06014 for majordomo-users@greatcircle.com; Sat, 9 May 1998 13:45:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ns1.ua.edu (ns1.ua.edu [130.160.4.4]) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-980202-1) with ESMTP id RAA01297 for ; Wed, 6 May 1998 17:53:10 -0700 (PDT) Received: from law.ua.edu (smtp.law.ua.edu [130.160.234.253]) by ns1.ua.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id TAA02332 for ; Wed, 6 May 1998 19:42:24 -0500 Received: from LAW/SpoolDir by law.ua.edu (Mercury 1.40); 6 May 98 19:53:42 -0600 Received: from SpoolDir by LAW (Mercury 1.40); 6 May 98 19:53:33 -0600 From: "Terry Davis" Organization: University of Alabama School of Law To: majordomo-users@greatcircle.com Date: Wed, 6 May 1998 19:53:32 CST Subject: HELP!! digest not storing incomming X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (v2.30) Message-ID: <1137BE90836@law.ua.edu> Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk Please HELP! Majordomo 1.94.4 with Sendmail 8.8.8 will not add the incomming mail to the working dir. The mail will be delivered to anyone on the list. I followed the quick digest setup. majordomo.cf $digest_work_dir = "/usr/local/mail/digest"; $filedir = "/usr/local/mail/files"; $filedir_suffix = ".archive"; That being the case, you must create these two directories: /usr/local/mail/digest/banjo-digest /usr/local/mail/files/banjo-digest.archive Majordomo owns both of the directories and has rwx and all have rx. created the list-digest.config in the files directory created the aliases. banjo-outgoing: :include:/path/to/lists/banjo, banjo-digestify banjo-digestify: "|/path/to/wrapper digest -r -C -l banjo-digest banjo-d igest-outgoing" banjo-digest: banjo banjo-digest-outgoing: :include:/path/to/lists/banjo-digest owner-banjo-digest-outgoing: harry banjo-digest-approval: harry ran newaliases. snet numerous emails to list-digest and all were passed on to the list, but none to the digest dir. ANY HELP WILL BE APPRECIATED!!!! Please forward to anyone else that you think may help. From majordomo-users-owner Sat May 9 14:33:58 1998 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-970926-1) id NAA06118; Sat, 9 May 1998 13:45:58 -0700 (PDT) Received: (mcb@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-980202-1) id NAA06097 for majordomo-users@greatcircle.com; Sat, 9 May 1998 13:45:50 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ncr-sd.SanDiegoCA.NCR.COM (h153-64-251-18.NCR.COM [153.64.251.18]) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-980202-1) with ESMTP id OAA19661 for ; Thu, 7 May 1998 14:42:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: from jabberwocky (jabberwocky.SanDiegoCA.NCR.COM [153.64.69.123]) by ncr-sd.SanDiegoCA.NCR.COM (8.8.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id OAA04781; Thu, 7 May 1998 14:42:13 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199805072142.OAA04781@ncr-sd.SanDiegoCA.NCR.COM> X-Sender: bhoule@www.sandiegoca.ncr.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.0 Date: Thu, 07 May 1998 14:37:31 -0700 To: Dan Deremiah , Majordomo-Users@GreatCircle.COM From: Bill Houle Subject: Re: [Fwd: subscriber restrict, and reply address] In-Reply-To: <3551FCF3.6470AD73@mylex.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk 1. Check the archives for the subscribe/nosubscribe patch. If you paid any attention at all to the list traffic, you'd also know that this same question was asked just last week. 2. If $whereami is set correctly, I'd look at sendmail to see if it is rewriting addresses. --bill >1. Check the archives for the subscribe/nosubscribe patch. If you paid any >attention at all to the list traffic, you'd also know that this same >question was asked just last week. > >2. If $whereami is set correctly, I'd look at sendmail to see if it is >rewriting addresses. > >--bill At 06:26 PM 5/7/98 +0000, Dan Deremiah wrote: >Dan Deremiah wrote: >> >> OK here are a couple of easy (for experienced users) questions that I >> need to ask after reading the FAQ and much of the included docs in >> version 1.94.4. I have perl 5.004, solaris 2.5.x, and sendmail as my >> transport agent. >> >> 1) I want to automatically restrict the subscribers to a everyone in >> "*this.domain". I have set up advertise so that outside domains can't >> see the lists with the 'lists' command, but that seems to have no effect >> on who can actually subscribe. >> >> 2) How do I set the return address with majordomo, so that the return >> address is majordomo@this.domain instead of >> majordomo@machinein.this.domain. So when people reply to a request it >> goes to the correct mail exchanger. >> >> Thanks in advance for the help, >> >> dandMessage-ID: <35507D15.5D08F759@mylex.com> >Date: Wed, 06 May 1998 15:09:10 +0000 >From: Dan Deremiah >X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (X11; I; Linux 2.0.32 i586) >MIME-Version: 1.0 >To: Majordomo-Users@GreatCircle.COM >Subject: subscriber restrict, and reply address >Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii >Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > >OK here are a couple of easy (for experienced users) questions that I >need to ask after reading the FAQ and much of the included docs in >version 1.94.4. I have perl 5.004, solaris 2.5.x, and sendmail as my >transport agent. > >1) I want to automatically restrict the subscribers to a everyone in >"*this.domain". I have set up advertise so that outside domains can't >see the lists with the 'lists' command, but that seems to have no effect >on who can actually subscribe. > >2) How do I set the return address with majordomo, so that the return >address is majordomo@this.domain instead of >majordomo@machinein.this.domain. So when people reply to a request it >goes to the correct mail exchanger. > >Thanks in advance for the help, > >dand > From majordomo-users-owner Sat May 9 14:36:25 1998 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-970926-1) id NAA06072; Sat, 9 May 1998 13:45:36 -0700 (PDT) Received: (mcb@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-980202-1) id NAA06060 for majordomo-users@greatcircle.com; Sat, 9 May 1998 13:45:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: from bart.wral-tv.com (bart.wral-tv.com [199.72.70.1]) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-980202-1) with ESMTP id FAA12208 for ; Thu, 7 May 1998 05:16:23 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (priebe@localhost) by bart.wral-tv.com (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id IAA21449 for ; Thu, 7 May 1998 08:17:32 -0400 (EDT) Date: Thu, 7 May 1998 08:17:28 -0400 (EDT) From: "Jason S. Priebe" Reply-To: priebe@wral-tv.com To: majordomo-users@greatcircle.com Subject: automagic v0.1 Message-ID: Organization: WRAL OnLine MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: MULTIPART/MIXED; BOUNDARY="-951564799-44825268-894543427=:20483" Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk This message is in MIME format. The first part should be readable text, while the remaining parts are likely unreadable without MIME-aware tools. Send mail to mime@docserver.cac.washington.edu for more info. ---951564799-44825268-894543427=:20483 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- For anyone who missed my first post regarding automagic, it is a simple bounce-handling program written in Perl. It can automatically unsubscribe users whose addresses result in fatal delivery errors, delete auto-reply messages (like vacation messages), and anything it doesn't understand, it forwards to a real owner. I've made a few revisions to tighten up security; thanks to Dave Barr for his suggestion on pulling the password-lookup into the code of automagic. This version of automagic runs using the wrapper, so it is able to read the list config files and grab list passwords (so you don't have to include the password on the command line). Documentation is in the header of the attached source. 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"'majordomo-users@greatcircle.com'" Subject: Re: Address identification in list files References: <113BA733C237D011BFA74854E82102F6332072@natacha.ambrasoft.lu> Mime-Version: 1.0 (generated by tm-edit 7.100) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII From: Jason L Tibbitts III Date: 09 May 1998 16:53:20 -0500 In-Reply-To: CARPENTIER Michel's message of "Tue, 5 May 1998 12:25:50 +0200" Message-ID: Lines: 29 X-Mailer: Gnus v5.6.9/Emacs 19.34 Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk >>>>> "CM" == CARPENTIER Michel writes: CM> For example, the RFC says that e-mail addresses may have the format CM> like "Michel Carpentier ", but, if you try to CM> zubscribe this address, only the "mca@ambrasoft.lu" is inserted in the CM> list file. That probably means that you have strip = yes in the configuration file. CM> Maybe this is solved in Mj 2.0, but another question is when will it be CM> released ? In this case, I don't see what Majordomo2 will give you that Majordomo1 with 'strip = no' won't. Majordomo2 stores additional data about addresses, but unless you're going to be specific I can't tell you if it stores what you want to know. It will be released when it's done. Nobody can say when that will be. CM> If I remember, we're talking about it for more than a year now.... Discussions about it date back several years and I have been writing the code on and off for 17 months now. If you want it to come out faster, perhaps you should join majordomo-workers and at least test it if not contribute to it. Alpha 1 runs and the CVS version runs even better. It doesn't have everything yet (no digests, in particular) but it has enough to run some of my lists. - J< From majordomo-users-owner Sat May 9 20:38:36 1998 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-970926-1) id UAA14880; Sat, 9 May 1998 20:32:36 -0700 (PDT) Received: from imo29.mx.aol.com (imo29.mx.aol.com [198.81.17.73]) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-980202-1) with ESMTP id UAA14873 for ; Sat, 9 May 1998 20:32:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: from JOSEPHPG@aol.com by imo29.mx.aol.com (IMOv14.1) id PXLFa02463 for ; Sat, 9 May 1998 23:33:56 +2000 (EDT) From: JOSEPHPG Message-ID: Date: Sat, 9 May 1998 23:33:56 EDT To: Majordomo-Users@GreatCircle.COM Mime-Version: 1.0 Subject: SUBSCRIBESBHS'88 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 3.0 for Windows 95 sub 18 Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk hI, i AM TRYING TO GET TO MAJORDOMO@SNA.COM SUBJECT SBHS'88 EVERYTIME I TRY DIRECT ADDRESS IT CANNOT CONNECT. CAN YOU HELP ME OUT. From majordomo-users-owner Sun May 10 13:08:36 1998 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-970926-1) id MAA27622; Sun, 10 May 1998 12:59:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail.utexas.edu (mail.utexas.edu [128.83.126.1]) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-980202-1) with SMTP id MAA27615 for ; Sun, 10 May 1998 12:58:50 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199805101958.MAA27615@honor.greatcircle.com> Received: (qmail 11159 invoked by uid 0); 10 May 1998 20:00:29 -0000 Received: from resnet-24-126.dorm.utexas.edu (HELO sanctuary.dorm.utexas.edu) (129.116.24.126) by mail.utexas.edu with SMTP; 10 May 1998 20:00:29 -0000 From: "Andrew Quap" Organization: very little, if any To: Majordomo-Users@GreatCircle.COM Date: Sun, 10 May 1998 15:04:18 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Subject: header control Reply-to: quap@mail.utexas.edu Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk Hello, I think I have everything set up right, what I want to do is ignore all the headers if the mail is approved and send out a simple set of headers. The reasons for this is I want to use the list to send to our members and have it so the from: has the right format and the Orginization: is not there. 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X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Majordomo-Users@GreatCircle.COM Subject: [Help]Returned mail: test-list... aliasing/forwarding loop broken Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk Dear sir. I've a problem Firstly, i got the following error when sending a message('subsribe') to a list -------------------------------------------- The original message was received at Mon, 11 May 1998 21:36:40 +0900 (KST) from root@localhost ----- The following addresses had permanent fatal errors ----- test-list ----- Transcript of session follows ----- 554 test-list... aliasing/forwarding loop brokenl --------------------------------------------- So I have placed an address in the list, and then disappeared a error. But, It gives me a different problem..... The problem is that a new member's address not written to a 'lists/test' file....without a error message Why ? (Permission on all files are : 664 directories, executables : 775) Please comment what should I do in order to fix the problem Any help would be much appreciated From majordomo-users-owner Mon May 11 06:53:36 1998 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-970926-1) id GAA12967; Mon, 11 May 1998 06:46:19 -0700 (PDT) Received: from bart.wral-tv.com (bart.wral-tv.com [199.72.70.1]) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-980202-1) with ESMTP id GAA12958 for ; Mon, 11 May 1998 06:46:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (priebe@localhost) by bart.wral-tv.com (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id JAA25138; Mon, 11 May 1998 09:47:53 -0400 (EDT) Date: Mon, 11 May 1998 09:47:49 -0400 (EDT) From: "Jason S. Priebe" Reply-To: priebe@wral-tv.com To: Russell cc: Majordomo-Users@GreatCircle.COM Subject: Re: moderated list not working In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Organization: WRAL OnLine MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- On Fri, 8 May 1998, Russell wrote: > address. I have also tried to set up restrit_post, but that has not > helped at all, anyone can still post to the list, without any intervention > from me. I have run config-test through the wrapper and it tells me that Assuming that you actually used 'restrict_post', not 'restrit_post', then you do have a real problem! ;-) Perhaps your mail aliases aren't set up properly and people sending mail to the list are actually sending it straight to the list of users without going through resend first? - -------------------------------------------------- Jason Priebe WRAL OnLine priebe@wral-tv.com Raleigh, NC see http://www.wral-tv.com/~priebe/ for public key -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6.2 iQCVAwUBNVcBh+qkj/9w/z2hAQHQ8gQAxQfpBGjwJE31x7hdMBaL8Fec7HFJj0us 0TfdSE573J/4SxKaIs5jBmruOblBQoZhYVnfNDcSVfR7fhjPD/4KpVvsdzcwRkqt tUozeedeHcZbFr9cp4zI7nvsAmMcKyd+Byh2+8aUnoFXomrOHdLEt5o5BcYL/SXk dfSiNRlkwFE= =uDjE -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From majordomo-users-owner Mon May 11 07:35:15 1998 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-970926-1) id HAA13474; Mon, 11 May 1998 07:12:04 -0700 (PDT) Received: from gsulaw.gsu.edu (gsulaw.Gsu.EDU [131.96.159.141]) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-980202-1) with ESMTP id HAA13467 for ; Mon, 11 May 1998 07:11:58 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (lawppw@localhost) by gsulaw.gsu.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id KAA28844; Mon, 11 May 1998 10:14:02 -0400 Date: Mon, 11 May 1998 10:14:02 -0400 (EDT) From: Patrick Wiseman Reply-To: Patrick Wiseman To: Terry Davis cc: majordomo-users@GreatCircle.COM Subject: Re: sending inf* file In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk This was posted on majordomo-workers last September (apologies, but I just kept the code, so can't give proper attribution): 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 lines to bypass administrivia for i in `cat file_with_addresses`; do echo "approve passwd subscribe $i" | mail majordomo@host; done (one line) This will read the file, add each address to the list by subscribing it, causing majordomo to send out the info file. Or, if you've already added everyone, you could send "info" to list-request and just forward it to the list. On Tue, 5 May 1998, Terry Davis wrote: :I have compiled a large number of addresses to personally subscribe :to a list. Is there a simple way to make Majordomo send the info :file for this list to these people that I have added to the list? Patrick From majordomo-users-owner Mon May 11 08:08:45 1998 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-970926-1) id HAA14552; Mon, 11 May 1998 07:57:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: from bob.usuf2.usuhs.mil (bob.usuf2.usuhs.mil [131.158.3.183]) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-980202-1) with ESMTP id HAA14545 for ; Mon, 11 May 1998 07:56:54 -0700 (PDT) Received: from bob.usuf2.usuhs.mil by bob.usuf2.usuhs.mil; (8.9.0.Beta5/1.1.8.2/28Apr95-0137AM) id KAA04414; Mon, 11 May 1998 10:58:46 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <35571224.F06DF429@bob.usuf2.usuhs.mil> Date: Mon, 11 May 1998 10:58:45 -0400 From: Robert Williams Organization: Uniformed Services University X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.05 [en] (X11; I; OSF1 V3.2 alpha) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: majordomo-users@greatcircle.com Subject: majordomo-1.88 and sendmail 8.8.8/9.0 don't work together Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk I'm getting the following errors after upgrading to sendmail 8.8.8 or 9.0: from sendmail version 9.0: From: To: majordomo-owner MAJORDOMO ABORT (mj_digest)!! -l: No such file or directory from sendmail version 8.8.8 "FD" gets appended either to the recipient name or to the address: ----- The following addresses had permanent fatal errors ----- I'm using majordomo 1.88 and am presently upgrading to 1.94.4. Will that solve these problems? Or must I change my aliases file, which currently looks like this for any particular list: # JUNK junk:"|/users/majordom/wrapper resend -l junk -h bob.usuf2.usuhs.mil junk-outgoing" junk-digest:junk # I put the digest and archive programs on the outgoing list so that # messages bounced by resend don't end up in the digest or archive # unless I send them through resend explicitly. junk-outgoing::include:/users/majordom/lists/junk,"| /users/majordom/wrapper digest -r -C -l junk-digest junk-digest-outgoing","| /users/majordom/wrapper archive2.pl -a -m -f /users/majordom/archive/junk/junk.archive" # archive produces a monthly archive with the -m flag. junk-digest-outgoing::include:/users/majordom/lists/junk-digest owner-junk:bob owner-junk-outgoing:owner-junk # note that the "-digest" and "-digest-outgoing" suffixes # are required to allow the majordomo mkdigest command, and the # config code to work properly. owner-junk-digest:owner-junk owner-junk-digest-outgoing:owner-junk # junk-request: "|/users/majordom/wrapper request-answer junk" junk-request: "|/users/majordom/wrapper majordomo -l junk" junk-digest-request: "|/users/majordom/wrapper request-answer junk-digest" junk-approval:bob junk-digest-approval:junk-approval # Archive mailing list junklist: "|/usr/local/bin/hypermail -i -u -d /users/ftp/pub/mailserv/list-archives/list -l \"Junk Mailing List Archive\"" -- Bob Williams, http://bob.usuf2.usuhs.mil/ From majordomo-users-owner Mon May 11 08:39:26 1998 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-970926-1) id IAA15270; Mon, 11 May 1998 08:31:18 -0700 (PDT) Received: from bob.usuf2.usuhs.mil (bob.usuf2.usuhs.mil [131.158.3.183]) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-980202-1) with SMTP id IAA15254 for ; Mon, 11 May 1998 08:31:11 -0700 (PDT) Received: by bob.usuf2.usuhs.mil; (5.65/1.1.8.2/28Apr95-0137AM) id AA32075; Mon, 11 May 1998 11:33:03 -0400 Message-Id: <35571A2D.3E60775B@bob.usuf2.usuhs.mil> Date: Mon, 11 May 1998 11:33:02 -0400 From: Robert Williams Organization: Uniformed Services University X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.05 [en] (X11; I; OSF1 V3.2 alpha) Mime-Version: 1.0 To: majordomo-users@greatcircle.com Subject: Re: majordomo-1.88 and sendmail 8.8.8/9.0 don't work together References: <35571224.F06DF429@bob.usuf2.usuhs.mil> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk I wrote: > I'm using majordomo 1.88 and am presently upgrading > to 1.94.4. Sorry, I am using 1.94.4, which has been working well with an older version of sendmail. -- Bob Williams, http://bob.usuf2.usuhs.mil/ From majordomo-users-owner Mon May 11 08:53:47 1998 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-970926-1) id IAA15390; Mon, 11 May 1998 08:40:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: from miles.greatcircle.com (miles.greatcircle.com [198.102.244.45]) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-980202-1) with ESMTP id IAA15383 for ; Mon, 11 May 1998 08:40:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: from supelec.supelec.fr (supelec.supelec.fr [160.228.120.192]) by miles.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id IAA22018 for ; Mon, 11 May 1998 08:40:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: by supelec.supelec.fr id AA04031; Mon, 11 May 1998 17:39:04 +0200 Date: Mon, 11 May 1998 17:35:13 +0200 Message-Id: <98051117351315@supelec.fr> From: Daniel.Clar@supelec.fr (Daniel Clar) To: majordomo-users@greatcircle.com Subject: Problem is somebody knows the approve password X-Vms-To: SMTP%"majordomo-users@GreatCircle.COM" X-Vms-Cc: DC Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk Hello, Perharps, my configuration is not correct, but it seems that when somebody knows the admin_passwd , he is able to do a lot of thing even if he's not the owner of the list. So majordomo doesn't verify who send the approve command. Am I wrong ? Sorry if it's a wrong configuration file. Daniel From majordomo-users-owner Mon May 11 09:26:13 1998 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-970926-1) id JAA16552; Mon, 11 May 1998 09:23:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: from sina.hpc.uh.edu (Sina.HPC.UH.EDU [129.7.3.5]) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-980202-1) with ESMTP id JAA16545 for ; Mon, 11 May 1998 09:23:23 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from tibbs@localhost) by sina.hpc.uh.edu (8.7.3/8.7.3) id LAA15221; Mon, 11 May 1998 11:25:02 -0500 (CDT) To: Daniel.Clar@supelec.fr (Daniel Clar) Cc: majordomo-users@GreatCircle.COM Subject: Re: Problem is somebody knows the approve password References: <98051117351315@supelec.fr> Mime-Version: 1.0 (generated by tm-edit 7.100) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII From: Jason L Tibbitts III Date: 11 May 1998 11:25:01 -0500 In-Reply-To: Daniel.Clar@supelec.fr's message of "Mon, 11 May 1998 17:35:13 +0200" Message-ID: Lines: 12 X-Mailer: Gnus v5.6.9/Emacs 19.34 Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk >>>>> "DC" == Daniel Clar writes: DC> So majordomo doesn't verify who send the approve command. How could it? I can trivially forge email as you. Not only that, but you might want to run the list from a different address, or give the password to someone else while you're on vacation. There's talk of using digital signatures for authentication, but that probably isn't going to happen soon. - J< From majordomo-users-owner Mon May 11 09:39:13 1998 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-970926-1) id JAA16466; Mon, 11 May 1998 09:19:44 -0700 (PDT) Received: from neviim.torah.org (neviim.torah.org [207.239.101.202]) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-980202-1) with ESMTP id JAA16453 for ; Mon, 11 May 1998 09:19:36 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (brozen@localhost) by neviim.torah.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id MAA31468; Mon, 11 May 1998 12:21:23 -0400 Date: Mon, 11 May 1998 19:21:23 +0300 (IDT) From: Brock Rozen Reply-To: Brock Rozen To: Robert Williams cc: majordomo-users@GreatCircle.COM Subject: Re: majordomo-1.88 and sendmail 8.8.8/9.0 don't work together In-Reply-To: <35571A2D.3E60775B@bob.usuf2.usuhs.mil> Message-ID: X-Backup: Disable X-URL: http://www.torah.org/~brozen MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk Wait, you're using a newer config file of sendmail than the version that is running?? I use the latest majordomo and sendmail 8.8.8 with no problems. ---------------------------------- | Brock Rozen | brozen@torah.org | ---------------------------------- From majordomo-users-owner Mon May 11 10:38:55 1998 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-970926-1) id KAA17659; Mon, 11 May 1998 10:23:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: from kitsune.swcp.com (swcp.com [198.59.115.2]) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-980202-1) with ESMTP id KAA17652 for ; Mon, 11 May 1998 10:23:54 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from lazlo@localhost) by kitsune.swcp.com (8.8.8/1.2.3) id LAA04104; Mon, 11 May 1998 11:25:51 -0600 (MDT) Message-ID: <19980511112550.A3692@swcp.com> Date: Mon, 11 May 1998 11:25:50 -0600 From: Lazlo Nibble To: mu Subject: Re: Problem is somebody knows the approve password Mail-Followup-To: mu Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.91.1i Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk > Perharps, my configuration is not correct, but it seems that when somebody > knows the admin_passwd , he is able to do a lot of thing even if he's not > the owner of the list. So majordomo doesn't verify who send the approve > command. No it doesn't. It's a lot easier to forge mail headers than it is to guess the admin password, so adding the extra check wouldn't buy you any real security. If your admin password has leaked out, you should change the password. -- ::: Lazlo (lazlo@swcp.com; http://www.swcp.com/lazlo) ::: Internet Music Wantlists: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo/Wantlists From majordomo-users-owner Mon May 11 11:24:21 1998 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-970926-1) id KAA18169; Mon, 11 May 1998 10:54:30 -0700 (PDT) Received: from smultron.com (smultron.com [192.41.19.90]) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-980202-1) with ESMTP id KAA18155 for ; Mon, 11 May 1998 10:54:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: from daw (56K-174.MaxTNT1.pdq.net [209.144.226.174]) by smultron.com (8.8.5) id MAA09423; Mon, 11 May 1998 12:56:11 -0500 (CDT) Reply-To: From: "david a wahlstrom" To: Subject: precedence Date: Mon, 11 May 1998 12:52:36 -0500 Message-ID: <00dd01bd7d05$950b5be0$aee290d1@daw> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Importance: Normal Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk Can someone help me with the variable "precedence?" What are typical values? Does it speed up the operation? My digests sometimes take "forever" to go out. Thanks Prof DA Wahlström JD MS F.ASCE Originator, Swedes emailing list From majordomo-users-owner Mon May 11 11:38:36 1998 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-970926-1) id LAA18981; Mon, 11 May 1998 11:38:15 -0700 (PDT) Received: from stingray.ivision.co.uk (stingray.ivision.co.uk [195.50.91.40]) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-980202-1) with SMTP id LAA18974 for ; Mon, 11 May 1998 11:38:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pretender.ivision.co.uk [195.50.91.43] by stingray.ivision.co.uk with smtp (Exim 1.62 #2) id 0yYxUZ-0006nh-00; Mon, 11 May 1998 19:40:03 +0100 Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.19980511193857.008d3d40@stingray.ivision.co.uk> X-Sender: manarpop@stingray.ivision.co.uk X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.5 (32) Date: Mon, 11 May 1998 19:38:57 +0100 To: From: Manar Hussain Subject: Re: precedence Cc: In-Reply-To: <00dd01bd7d05$950b5be0$aee290d1@daw> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk At 12:52 11/05/98 -0500, david a wahlstrom wrote: > >Can someone help me with the variable "precedence?" What are typical values? >Does it speed up the operation? My digests sometimes take "forever" to go >out. That'll almost certainly be your mail server having problems (probably bandwidth) and nowt to do with the precedence header. How big out your digests, how many subscribers are there and what sort of net connection does the machine have As an example with a digest that was 100K in size and say 400 subscribers that's a total of 40000K (or say 320,000 kbits) of data to deliver. On a 64Kbit line that will take at least: 320000/64 seconds = 5000 seconds. It will very possibly take a lot longer with a non-tuned mail server that will deliver well in parallel as the server will also spend a fair bit of time mererly trying to make connections. Manar From majordomo-users-owner Mon May 11 16:08:39 1998 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-970926-1) id QAA23386; Mon, 11 May 1998 16:01:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ncr-sd.SanDiegoCA.NCR.COM (h153-64-251-18.NCR.COM [153.64.251.18]) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-980202-1) with ESMTP id QAA23379 for ; Mon, 11 May 1998 16:00:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: from jabberwocky (jabberwocky.SanDiegoCA.NCR.COM [153.64.69.123]) by ncr-sd.SanDiegoCA.NCR.COM (8.8.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id PAA26741; Mon, 11 May 1998 15:59:14 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199805112259.PAA26741@ncr-sd.SanDiegoCA.NCR.COM> X-Sender: bhoule@www.sandiegoca.ncr.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.0 Date: Mon, 11 May 1998 15:59:19 -0700 To: Paulo Brandao From: Bill Houle Subject: Re: MajorCool Cc: majordomo-users@GreatCircle.COM In-Reply-To: References: <199805050538.WAA08683@hpsdly.sdd.hp.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk At 09:44 PM 5/6/98 +0100, Paulo Brandao wrote: > > How do i install the queue view of the bounces messages, i have tried >to use majorcool, but that part i don't know how, if anyone knows how, >please tell me, but in a simple way, i don't know much about this. If your Majordomo supports it, availability under MajorCool will be automatic. Install the patch included with MajorCool 1.0.3 to add this Majordomo feature. The Approval Queue patch augments some code in "resend" which causes BOUNCEd messages to be saved in $filedir/$list$filedir_suffix instead of (or in addition to) being mailed to the moderator. Two new keywords -- bounce_action and bounce_text -- are used to control this queue/send behavior. MajorCool will automatically detect the presence of the 'bounce_action' keyword and give an option to access the Approval Queue. Selecting this option will cause MajorCool to check the $filedir location for any pending messages and give the moderator an Approve/Delete/Skip action for each. --bill From majordomo-users-owner Tue May 12 01:41:25 1998 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-970926-1) id BAA00853; Tue, 12 May 1998 01:26:43 -0700 (PDT) Received: from hotmail.com (f48.hotmail.com [207.82.250.59]) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-980202-1) with SMTP id BAA00846 for ; Tue, 12 May 1998 01:26:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 17545 invoked by uid 0); 12 May 1998 08:28:42 -0000 Message-ID: <19980512082842.17544.qmail@hotmail.com> Received: from 203.130.2.14 by www.hotmail.com with HTTP; Tue, 12 May 1998 01:28:42 PDT X-Originating-IP: [203.130.2.14] From: "Tee Emm" To: majordomo-users@greatcircle.com Subject: Confirmation Feature Content-Type: text/plain Date: Tue, 12 May 1998 01:28:42 PDT Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk Hi everyone, I need to incorporate the 'subscription confirmation feature' in my majordomo. Does this require a newer version of majordomo or a patch? Where can I get more information (and the patch) from? Thanks in advance -- TM ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com From majordomo-users-owner Tue May 12 03:23:39 1998 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-970926-1) id DAA02937; Tue, 12 May 1998 03:10:17 -0700 (PDT) Received: from monsoon.dial.pipex.net (monsoon.dial.pipex.net [158.43.128.69]) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-980202-1) with SMTP id DAA02864 for ; Tue, 12 May 1998 03:09:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 12677 invoked from network); 12 May 1998 10:12:00 -0000 Received: from krycek.unica.co.uk (HELO krycek) (194.75.183.80) by smtp.dial.pipex.com with SMTP; 12 May 1998 10:12:00 -0000 Message-ID: <002401bd7d8c$cdbfbb70$50b74bc2@krycek.unica.co.uk> From: "Peter Bowyer" To: Subject: Re: Confirmation Feature Date: Tue, 12 May 1998 11:00:14 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.2106.4 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk -----Original Message----- From: Tee Emm To: majordomo-users@greatcircle.com Date: 12 May 1998 09:47 Subject: Confirmation Feature >Hi everyone, > >I need to incorporate the 'subscription confirmation feature' in my >majordomo. Does this require a newer version of majordomo or a patch? >Where can I get more information (and the patch) from? Newer that what? IIRC, this first appeared in 1.94.1 - latest is 1.94.4. Peter From majordomo-users-owner Tue May 12 03:38:41 1998 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-970926-1) id DAA05087; Tue, 12 May 1998 03:31:06 -0700 (PDT) Received: from neptune.pegasus.cranfield.ac.uk (neptune.pegasus.cranfield.ac.uk [138.250.1.185]) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-980202-1) with SMTP id DAA04904 for ; Tue, 12 May 1998 03:25:16 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nassau.pegasus.cranfield.ac.uk [138.250.1.183] by neptune.pegasus.cranfield.ac.uk with smtp (Exim 1.82 #1) id 0yZCH3-0007LK-00; Tue, 12 May 1998 11:27:05 +0100 Date: Tue, 12 May 1998 11:26:54 +0100 (BST) From: Jeffrey Goldberg X-Sender: cc047@nassau.pegasus.cranfield.ac.uk Reply-To: Jeffrey Goldberg To: Tee Emm cc: majordomo-users@GreatCircle.COM Subject: Re: Confirmation Feature In-Reply-To: <19980512082842.17544.qmail@hotmail.com> Message-ID: Organization: Cranfield University Computer Centre MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk On Tue, 12 May 1998, Tee Emm wrote: > I need to incorporate the 'subscription confirmation feature' in my > majordomo. Does this require a newer version of majordomo or a patch? Newer than what? The current version 1.94.4 and at least one previous 1.94.3 had it. -- Jeffrey Goldberg +44 (0)1234 750 111 x 2826 Cranfield Computer Centre FAX 751 814 J.Goldberg@Cranfield.ac.uk http://WWW.Cranfield.ac.uk/public/cc/cc047/ Relativism is the triumph of authority over truth, convention over justice. From majordomo-users-owner Tue May 12 04:08:50 1998 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-970926-1) id DAA05291; Tue, 12 May 1998 03:43:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: from stingray.ivision.co.uk (stingray.ivision.co.uk [195.50.91.40]) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-980202-1) with SMTP id DAA05281 for ; Tue, 12 May 1998 03:42:50 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pretender.ivision.co.uk [195.50.91.43] by stingray.ivision.co.uk with smtp (Exim 1.62 #2) id 0yZCIl-0002GI-00; Tue, 12 May 1998 11:28:51 +0100 Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.19980512112745.00924b00@stingray.ivision.co.uk> X-Sender: manarpop@stingray.ivision.co.uk X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.5 (32) Date: Tue, 12 May 1998 11:27:45 +0100 To: "Tee Emm" From: Manar Hussain Subject: Re: Confirmation Feature Cc: majordomo-users@greatcircle.com In-Reply-To: <19980512082842.17544.qmail@hotmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk At 01:28 12/05/98 PDT, Tee Emm wrote: >Hi everyone, > >I need to incorporate the 'subscription confirmation feature' in my >majordomo. Does this require a newer version of majordomo or a patch? >Where can I get more information (and the patch) from? It's in 1.94.4 but there's a better version available as a patch from oyxmoron or some such - search through the archives. Manar From majordomo-users-owner Tue May 12 05:54:09 1998 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-970926-1) id FAA06882; Tue, 12 May 1998 05:43:36 -0700 (PDT) Received: from penguin.wise.edt.ericsson.se (penguin-ext.wise.edt.ericsson.se [194.237.142.5]) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-980202-1) with ESMTP id FAA06875 for ; Tue, 12 May 1998 05:43:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: from elb1 (elb1.al.edt.ericsson.se [136.225.252.11]) by penguin.wise.edt.ericsson.se (8.7.5/8.7.3/penguin-1.12) with SMTP id OAA12685 for ; Tue, 12 May 1998 14:45:29 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from remote.al.edt.ericsson.se by elb1 (SMI-8.6/LME-2.2.6) id OAA12009; Tue, 12 May 1998 14:45:29 +0200 From: edthavz@al.edt.ericsson.se (von Zweigbergk Hanna L-OX ) Received: by remote.al.edt.ericsson.se (SMI-8.6/client-1.6) id OAA04659; Tue, 12 May 1998 14:45:28 +0200 Date: Tue, 12 May 1998 14:45:28 +0200 Message-Id: <199805121245.OAA04659@remote.al.edt.ericsson.se> To: majordomo-users@greatcircle.com Subject: cant approve closed list X-Sun-Charset: US-ASCII Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk Hi! I'm having troubles setting up my closed majordomolist. I've been searching the greatcircle archives but without success. I created my list ,set up aliases file OK and then changed the list.config file as below My aliases definition: secretaries: "|/EDUP/Majordomo/1.94.4/wrapper resend -l secretaries secretaries-list" secretaries: :include:/proj/majordomo/lists/secretaries secretaries-request: "|/EDUP/Majordomo/1.94.4/wrapper majordomo -l secretaries" secretaries-owner: edthavz owner-secretaries: edthavz secretaries-approval: edthavz My config file: (secretaries.config) #------------------ description= List of secretaries moderate=no subscribe_policy=closed approve_passwd=secretaries.pass #------------------------ When someone tries to subscribe to the list the secretaries-approval person(me) gets a mail that I should reply with the following line approve PASSWORD subscribe secretaries edthavz@al.edt.ericsson.se When I then send that line to majordomo I get the following error message: >>>> approve secretaries.pass subsribe secretaries edthavz@al.edt.ericsson.se **** approve: invalid list or password. How can I track down what is wrong? I have been trying to fiddle around with the config file but It doesn't change. Best Regards hanna.von-zweigbergk@edt.ericsson.se Ericsson Data Sweden From majordomo-users-owner Tue May 12 06:39:05 1998 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-970926-1) id GAA07549; Tue, 12 May 1998 06:20:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pm04sm.pmm.mci.net (pm04sm.pmm.mci.net [208.159.126.153]) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-980202-1) with ESMTP id GAA07527 for ; Tue, 12 May 1998 06:19:54 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ccalvert ([166.32.109.17]) by PM04SM.PMM.MCI.NET (PMDF V5.1-10 #27036) with SMTP id <0ESU00FJLIEDH2@PM04SM.PMM.MCI.NET> for majordomo-users@greatcircle.com; Tue, 12 May 1998 13:20:38 +0000 (GMT) Date: Tue, 12 May 1998 09:20:14 -0400 From: dc.testing@internetmci.com (Testing) Subject: MajorDomo and MCI Mail X-Sender: 10EHDTI79FTK@mail53.internetMCI.COM To: majordomo-users@greatcircle.com Message-id: <0ESU00FJOIEDH2@PM04SM.PMM.MCI.NET> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Version 1.4.4 Content-type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk All, This is an FYI. If any of you have MCI Mail users that participate in your lists, you may have encountered a problem with the format of MCI Mail addresses: username/9991212@mcimail.com. The solution is as follows: >>>>> Well, in majordomo 1.94.4, all one needs to do is change the following variable in majordomo.cf from 0 to 1: $no_true_x400 = 1; <<<<< Chip MCI Mail Tech Support www.mcimail.com From majordomo-users-owner Tue May 12 07:10:37 1998 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-970926-1) id GAA08224; Tue, 12 May 1998 06:55:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: from monster.cu.kiev.ua (gu-cu.gu.net [194.93.160.40]) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-980202-1) with ESMTP id GAA08192 for ; Tue, 12 May 1998 06:54:16 -0700 (PDT) Received: from cu.kiev.ua ([194.93.168.129]) by monster.cu.kiev.ua (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id QAA11752; Tue, 12 May 1998 16:49:14 +0300 Message-ID: <355854E5.36B44D8C@cu.kiev.ua> Date: Tue, 12 May 1998 16:55:57 +0300 From: Vladimir Lech Organization: Consulting Ukraine Group X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.05 (Macintosh; I; PPC) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: majordomo-users@greatcircle.com Subject: ABORT message. Content-Type: text/plain; charset=koi8-r; x-mac-type="54455854"; x-mac-creator="4D4F5353" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk Hello, I'm new to Majordomo, so please help me a little. What is a strange error msg like: #--- MAJORDOMO ABORT (mj_majordomo)!! Majordomo@cu.kiev.ua: is not a valid return address. #--- I have no idea what is going on. Thanks in advance Vladimir From majordomo-users-owner Tue May 12 08:10:18 1998 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-970926-1) id HAA09342; Tue, 12 May 1998 07:54:37 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mailserver.montrealnet.net (mailserver.montrealnet.net [207.139.119.5]) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-980202-1) with ESMTP id HAA09333 for ; Tue, 12 May 1998 07:54:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: from spanky (unverified [207.139.119.41]) by mailserver.montrealnet.net (Rockliffe SMTPRA 2.1.2) with SMTP id for ; Tue, 12 May 1998 10:53:03 -0400 Message-ID: <355862F7.4F9C0EC6@10mb.com> Date: Tue, 12 May 1998 10:55:51 -0400 From: Francesco Fortugno Organization: Elecomm Corp. X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01 (X11; I; Linux 2.0.29 i586) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: majordomo-users@GreatCircle.COM Subject: making your own list from a db Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk hi there, I'd like to know if it's possible to create your own list created from a database, and use it for majordomo. Once this list is created, what steps need to be taken to result in the same created by majordomo. Just follow the same procedures as described in NEWLIST doc? thanks for you reply. ff -- EleComm Corporation - http://www.elecomm.net|http://www.10mb.com Francesco Fortugno Systems Analyst |10mb Technical Support Email: Fortugno@elecomm.net URL:http://www.10mb.com/fortugno From majordomo-users-owner Tue May 12 08:24:51 1998 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-970926-1) id IAA09737; Tue, 12 May 1998 08:13:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: from gaia.eurobretagne.fr (gaia.eurobretagne.fr [194.51.217.1]) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-980202-1) with ESMTP id IAA09730 for ; Tue, 12 May 1998 08:13:38 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (pydo@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gaia.eurobretagne.fr (8.8.8/8.8.6) with SMTP id RAA20960 for ; Tue, 12 May 1998 17:15:40 +0200 (MET DST) Date: Tue, 12 May 1998 17:15:40 +0200 (MET DST) From: Artur Pydo - EuroBretagne To: majordomo-users@GreatCircle.COM Subject: Mail creation with attachments. Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk Hi, It may be a little off topic, here. Sorry. I am looking for a tool that could generate a mail with attachments (MIME standard) from command line to send announcements messages to a mailing list. Best regards, Artur. From majordomo-users-owner Tue May 12 08:39:13 1998 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-970926-1) id HAA09382; Tue, 12 May 1998 07:56:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: from acunet.net ([208.203.130.2]) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-980202-1) with ESMTP id HAA09375 for ; Tue, 12 May 1998 07:56:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: from otispc (otispc.acunet.net [208.203.130.53]) by acunet.net (8.8.7/8.8.4) with SMTP id KAA13487 for ; Tue, 12 May 1998 10:58:21 -0400 (EDT) From: "Otis Gospodnetic" To: Subject: posting even if not on list. Date: Tue, 12 May 1998 10:50:01 -0500 Message-ID: <01bd7dbd$9f752f30$3582cbd0@otispc.acunet.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.71.1712.3 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.71.1712.3 Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk Hello, I have a list that is configured in a way that should let only zubzcribers post to the list. (well, I thought so until now - I just looked in the .config file and realized I cannot find the config variable that would make this restriction....and I thought I saw it before) Anyhow, somebody just posted to the list even though he was not zubzcribed to the list (at least he is not on the zubzcriber list right now and majordomo Log file doesn't show that he was ever on the list, it only has these two lines with the address of the alegged zubzcriber: May 12 04:35:13 dominis.com majordomo[5522] {badguy@hishost.com} info May 12 04:35:15 dominis.com majordomo[5522] {badguy@hishost.com} help so, my question is, I guess: - How can I make sure that only ZUBZCRIBERS can send mail to the list? Thanks, Otis From majordomo-users-owner Tue May 12 08:54:50 1998 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-970926-1) id IAA10362; Tue, 12 May 1998 08:46:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mailserver.montrealnet.net (mailserver.montrealnet.net [207.139.119.5]) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-980202-1) with ESMTP id IAA10339 for ; Tue, 12 May 1998 08:45:58 -0700 (PDT) Received: from spanky (unverified [207.139.119.41]) by mailserver.montrealnet.net (Rockliffe SMTPRA 2.1.2) with SMTP id for ; Tue, 12 May 1998 11:44:36 -0400 Message-ID: <35586F0C.DBFFA34@10mb.com> Date: Tue, 12 May 1998 11:47:24 -0400 From: Francesco Fortugno Organization: Elecomm Corp. X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01 (X11; I; Linux 2.0.29 i586) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: majordomo-users@GreatCircle.COM Subject: digest and archive list? Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk hi there, Being new to majordomo and it's setup, I'm trying to understand what is meant by digect and archive lists or directories. can someone please briefly explain what is meant by this. I appreciate the help. Thank you. ff -- EleComm Corporation - http://www.elecomm.net|http://www.10mb.com Francesco Fortugno Systems Analyst |10mb Technical Support Email: Fortugno@elecomm.net URL:http://www.10mb.com/fortugno From majordomo-users-owner Tue May 12 09:09:37 1998 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-970926-1) id IAA10317; Tue, 12 May 1998 08:45:11 -0700 (PDT) Received: from bc.mountain.net (BC.Mountain.Net [198.77.1.35]) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-980202-1) with ESMTP id IAA10310 for ; Tue, 12 May 1998 08:45:04 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mountain.net (tec.Mountain.Net [198.77.1.37]) by bc.mountain.net (8.8.7/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA05973 for ; Tue, 12 May 1998 11:47:14 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <35586E85.44FFA245@mountain.net> Date: Tue, 12 May 1998 11:45:09 -0400 From: Tim Connolly Organization: Mountain.Net, Inc. X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "majordomo-users@GreatCircle.COM" Subject: Approving bounced messages: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk As stated in the FAQ section 3.10 (URL http://www.greatcircle.com/majordomo/majordomo-faq.html#3.10 ): on a UNIX system with Perl), you have to do it by hand. The easiest way is to forward the original message to the list, add the line "Approved: approval-password" to the very first line of the body, and then the entire contents of the original message. (meaning there should not be a blank line before and after the "Approved:" line.) I did just this, I forwarded the bounced message to the list with the first line of my message being "approved " and no extra lines before or after. A few minutes later my teeth cringed as my password was sent to the list along with the bounced message.... Anybody have a better grasp on how to do this? -- Tim Connolly tec@mountain.net MountainNet, Inc. -- (304) 594-9075 ext. 37 2816 Cranberry Square -- fax (304) 594-9088 Morgantown, WV 26505 -- If you sit down at a poker game and don't see a sucker, -- get up. You're the sucker. (Story of my life) From majordomo-users-owner Tue May 12 09:11:53 1998 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-970926-1) id IAA10391; Tue, 12 May 1998 08:47:38 -0700 (PDT) Received: from peak.org (PEAK.ORG [198.68.22.17]) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-980202-1) with ESMTP id IAA10384 for ; Tue, 12 May 1998 08:47:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (sechrest@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by peak.org (8.8.5/8.6.7) with ESMTP id IAA09112; Tue, 12 May 1998 08:49:28 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199805121549.IAA09112@peak.org> To: "Otis Gospodnetic" Cc: majordomo-users@greatcircle.com Subject: Re: posting even if not on list. In-reply-to: Your message of Tue, 12 May 1998 10:50:01 CDT. <01bd7dbd$9f752f30$3582cbd0@otispc.acunet.net> Date: Tue, 12 May 1998 08:49:27 -0700 From: John Sechrest Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk I think you are looking for the restrict-post variable. "Otis Gospodnetic" writes: % Hello, % % I have a list that is configured in a way that should let only zubzcribers % post to the list. % (well, I thought so until now - I just looked in the .config file and % realized I cannot find the config variable that would make this % restriction....and I thought I saw it before) % % Anyhow, somebody just posted to the list even though he was not zubzcribed % to the list (at least he is not on the zubzcriber list right now and % majordomo Log file doesn't show that he was ever on the list, it only has % these two lines with the address of the alegged zubzcriber: % % May 12 04:35:13 dominis.com majordomo[5522] {badguy@hishost.com} info % May 12 04:35:15 dominis.com majordomo[5522] {badguy@hishost.com} help % % so, my question is, I guess: % % - How can I make sure that only ZUBZCRIBERS can send mail to the list? % % Thanks, % % Otis % % ----- John Sechrest . Helping people use PEAK - . computers and the Internet Public Electronic . more effectively Access to Knowledge,Inc . 850 SW 15th Street . Internet: sechrest@peak.org Corvallis Oregon 97331 . (541) 754-7325 . http://www.peak.org/~sechrest From majordomo-users-owner Tue May 12 09:24:18 1998 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-970926-1) id JAA11321; Tue, 12 May 1998 09:19:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: from homer.libby.org (ns.libby.org [208.137.111.15]) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-980202-1) with ESMTP id JAA11307 for ; Tue, 12 May 1998 09:19:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: from B5100DPSCANLAN.MCFP.WAPA.GOV ([198.233.50.54]) by homer.libby.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id KAA29913 for ; Tue, 12 May 1998 10:21:43 -0600 (MDT) Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.19980512102603.007bb450@mail.libby.org> X-Sender: patti@mail.libby.org X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.5 (32) Date: Tue, 12 May 1998 10:26:03 -0600 To: majordomo-users@GreatCircle.COM From: Patti Scanlan Subject: Moderated handling Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk Because of some recent flaming on a list I run... I just set my list to Moderate. Only problem... I can't figure out how to "approve" the messages and send them on to the list! I checked the FAQ.... and don't know if I missed the instructions in there somewhere. So... 1) How do you approve a message for it to be sent to the list 2) does it then use my address as who the message came from or does it still list the original sender Thanks for the help! Patti Scanlan From majordomo-users-owner Tue May 12 09:38:58 1998 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-970926-1) id JAA11919; Tue, 12 May 1998 09:37:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pegasus.host4u.net ([209.150.128.41]) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-980202-1) with ESMTP id JAA11912 for ; Tue, 12 May 1998 09:37:48 -0700 (PDT) Received: from interlink-inc.net (1Cust148.tnt18.atl2.da.uu.net [153.36.118.148]) by pegasus.host4u.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA02760 for ; Tue, 12 May 1998 11:39:39 -0500 Message-ID: <35587C43.D8F50CA6@interlink-inc.net> Date: Tue, 12 May 1998 12:43:47 -0400 From: Chris Baker Organization: Inter*Link Technology Solutions, Inc. X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.05 [en] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Majordomo Mail List Subject: Newsgroup posting Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk CAn anyone tell me how it is possible to post to and from newsgroups with Majordomo? -- Thanks for your time, ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Chris Baker Inter*Link Technology Solutions, Inc. Post Office Box 291241 Dept. SoFlo Daytona Beach, Florida 32129-1241 Office 904.428.8167 Toll Free: 1-888-316-4401 *********COMING SOON***************** **Join our HOT BLAST maillist to get **first look into our openings before **we turn them lose to the public. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ From majordomo-users-owner Tue May 12 09:47:26 1998 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-970926-1) id JAA10997; Tue, 12 May 1998 09:08:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.rmplc.co.uk (dns2.rmplc.co.uk [194.154.16.99]) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-980202-1) with ESMTP id JAA10988 for ; Tue, 12 May 1998 09:08:35 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx0.rmplc.co.uk (hawk.rmplc.co.uk [194.238.48.14]) by mx1.rmplc.co.uk (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id QAA11904; Tue, 12 May 1998 16:03:48 GMT Received: from felsted.rmplc.co.uk ([194.238.175.254]) by mx0.rmplc.co.uk (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id QAA15195; Tue, 12 May 1998 16:10:11 GMT Received: from localhost (pgs@localhost) by felsted.rmplc.co.uk (8.8.7/8.8.5) with SMTP id RAA10129; Tue, 12 May 1998 17:05:56 +0100 (BST) Date: Tue, 12 May 1998 17:05:55 +0100 (BST) From: Paul Statter To: Otis Gospodnetic cc: majordomo-users@greatcircle.com Subject: Re: posting even if not on list. In-Reply-To: <01bd7dbd$9f752f30$3582cbd0@otispc.acunet.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk On Tue, 12 May 1998, Otis Gospodnetic wrote: > > - How can I make sure that only ZUBZCRIBERS can send mail to the list? > Use restrict_post. Search the archives for (even more) info on how to do this. -- - Paul Statter, Felsted School pgs@felsted.rmplc.co.uk 0973 797113 - Any views expressed are my own and not those of "Felsted School" From majordomo-users-owner Tue May 12 09:54:08 1998 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-970926-1) id JAA11100; Tue, 12 May 1998 09:13:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.rmplc.co.uk (dns2.rmplc.co.uk [194.154.16.99]) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-980202-1) with ESMTP id JAA11093 for ; Tue, 12 May 1998 09:13:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx0.rmplc.co.uk (hawk.rmplc.co.uk [194.238.48.14]) by mx1.rmplc.co.uk (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id QAA11994; Tue, 12 May 1998 16:08:25 GMT Received: from felsted.rmplc.co.uk ([194.238.175.254]) by mx0.rmplc.co.uk (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id QAA15641; Tue, 12 May 1998 16:14:57 GMT Received: from localhost (pgs@localhost) by felsted.rmplc.co.uk (8.8.7/8.8.5) with SMTP id RAA10290; Tue, 12 May 1998 17:12:41 +0100 (BST) Date: Tue, 12 May 1998 17:12:41 +0100 (BST) From: Paul Statter To: Francesco Fortugno cc: majordomo-users@GreatCircle.COM Subject: Re: digest and archive list? In-Reply-To: <35586F0C.DBFFA34@10mb.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk On Tue, 12 May 1998, Francesco Fortugno wrote: > Being new to majordomo and it's setup, I'm trying to understand what is > meant by digect and archive lists or directories. > can someone please briefly explain what is meant by this. See (amongst others) the file 'list-owner-info' in the directory 'doc'. -- - Paul Statter, Felsted School pgs@felsted.rmplc.co.uk 0973 797113 - Any views expressed are my own and not those of "Felsted School" From majordomo-users-owner Tue May 12 09:59:12 1998 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-970926-1) id JAA11814; Tue, 12 May 1998 09:35:56 -0700 (PDT) Received: from neptune.pegasus.cranfield.ac.uk (neptune.pegasus.cranfield.ac.uk [138.250.1.185]) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-980202-1) with SMTP id JAA11795 for ; Tue, 12 May 1998 09:35:40 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nassau.pegasus.cranfield.ac.uk [138.250.1.183] by neptune.pegasus.cranfield.ac.uk with smtp (Exim 1.82 #1) id 0yZI3U-0001GS-00; Tue, 12 May 1998 17:37:28 +0100 Date: Tue, 12 May 1998 17:37:28 +0100 (BST) From: Jeffrey Goldberg X-Sender: cc047@nassau.pegasus.cranfield.ac.uk Reply-To: Jeffrey Goldberg To: Otis Gospodnetic cc: majordomo-users@greatcircle.com Subject: Re: posting even if not on list. In-Reply-To: <01bd7dbd$9f752f30$3582cbd0@otispc.acunet.net> Message-ID: Organization: Cranfield University Computer Centre MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk On Tue, 12 May 1998, Otis Gospodnetic wrote: > - How can I make sure that only ZUBZCRIBERS can send mail to the list? use restrict_post in the config file. Set it to the name of the list (which is the file containing the list of those on the list. -j -- Jeffrey Goldberg +44 (0)1234 750 111 x 2826 Cranfield Computer Centre FAX 751 814 J.Goldberg@Cranfield.ac.uk http://WWW.Cranfield.ac.uk/public/cc/cc047/ Relativism is the triumph of authority over truth, convention over justice. From majordomo-users-owner Tue May 12 10:06:00 1998 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-970926-1) id JAA11392; Tue, 12 May 1998 09:21:06 -0700 (PDT) Received: from bc.mountain.net (BC.Mountain.Net [198.77.1.35]) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-980202-1) with ESMTP id JAA11348 for ; Tue, 12 May 1998 09:20:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mountain.net (tec.Mountain.Net [198.77.1.37]) by bc.mountain.net (8.8.7/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA07203; Tue, 12 May 1998 12:22:53 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <355876E1.85E934AA@mountain.net> Date: Tue, 12 May 1998 12:20:49 -0400 From: Tim Connolly Organization: Mountain.Net, Inc. X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Otis Gospodnetic CC: majordomo-users@GreatCircle.COM Subject: Re: posting even if not on list. References: <01bd7dbd$9f752f30$3582cbd0@otispc.acunet.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk restrict_post = listname Otis Gospodnetic wrote: > Hello, > > I have a list that is configured in a way that should let only zubzcribers > post to the list. > (well, I thought so until now - I just looked in the .config file and > realized I cannot find the config variable that would make this > restriction....and I thought I saw it before) > > Anyhow, somebody just posted to the list even though he was not zubzcribed > to the list (at least he is not on the zubzcriber list right now and > majordomo Log file doesn't show that he was ever on the list, it only has > these two lines with the address of the alegged zubzcriber: > > May 12 04:35:13 dominis.com majordomo[5522] {badguy@hishost.com} info > May 12 04:35:15 dominis.com majordomo[5522] {badguy@hishost.com} help > > so, my question is, I guess: > > - How can I make sure that only ZUBZCRIBERS can send mail to the list? > > Thanks, > > Otis -- Tim Connolly tec@mountain.net MountainNet, Inc. -- (304) 594-9075 ext. 37 2816 Cranberry Square -- fax (304) 594-9088 Morgantown, WV 26505 -- If you sit down at a poker game and don't see a sucker, -- get up. You're the sucker. (Story of my life) From majordomo-users-owner Tue May 12 10:10:23 1998 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-970926-1) id JAA12055; Tue, 12 May 1998 09:43:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: from dpi.state.nc.us (pedpims.dpi.state.nc.us [149.168.35.31]) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-980202-1) with SMTP id JAA12048 for ; Tue, 12 May 1998 09:43:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: from DPIMAIL-Message_Server by dpi.state.nc.us with Novell_GroupWise; Tue, 12 May 1998 12:44:50 -0400 Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise 4.1 Date: Tue, 12 May 1998 12:44:04 -0400 From: David Bank To: majordomo-users@greatcircle.com Subject: Problem with v1.9.4 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Disposition: inline Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk Hello the List. I'm running Majordomo v1.9.4 on a Sparc20 with Solaris v2.6 and Sendmail v8.6.8. I've been getting errors like this: --- Cut here --- MAJORDOMO ABORT (mj_majordomo)!! chmod(33200, "/etc/lists/toy.new"): Not owner --- Cut here --- I've checked majordomo, resend and wrapper for permissions. They look like this: -rwxr-xr-x 1 majordom listown 29516 Feb 6 21:15 resend* -rwsr-xr-x 1 root listown 8604 Feb 6 21:16 wrapper* -rwxr-xr-x 1 majordom listown 64247 Feb 6 21:15 majordomo* When I run the config-test script, it reports everything is OK and sez Majordomo should run fine. What am I doing wrong? David Bank, Senior Network Engineer Public Schools of North Carolina, Department of Public Instruction Information and Technology Services, Networking Technologies Division Network Support Services Section Voice: 919-715-2138 Fax: 919-715-2248 SMTP E-Mail: dbank@dpi.state.nc.us Attachments: MIME or UUENCODE, no HTML please From majordomo-users-owner Tue May 12 10:21:56 1998 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-970926-1) id JAA11291; Tue, 12 May 1998 09:18:49 -0700 (PDT) Received: from acunet.net ([208.203.130.2]) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-980202-1) with ESMTP id JAA11276 for ; Tue, 12 May 1998 09:18:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: from otispc (otispc.acunet.net [208.203.130.53]) by acunet.net (8.8.7/8.8.4) with SMTP id MAA15150; Tue, 12 May 1998 12:20:47 -0400 (EDT) From: "Otis Gospodnetic" To: "John Sechrest" Cc: Subject: Re: posting even if not on list. Date: Tue, 12 May 1998 12:12:26 -0500 Message-ID: <01bd7dc9$22ece190$3582cbd0@otispc.acunet.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.71.1712.3 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.71.1712.3 Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk Hi, > I think you are looking for the restrict-post variable. so if the name of my list is XXX (so email addresses of zubzcribers are in the file called XXX) then I can just say: restrict_post = XXX correct? Thanks Otis >"Otis Gospodnetic" writes: > > % Hello, > % > % I have a list that is configured in a way that should let only zubzcribers > % post to the list. > % (well, I thought so until now - I just looked in the .config file and > % realized I cannot find the config variable that would make this > % restriction....and I thought I saw it before) > % > % Anyhow, somebody just posted to the list even though he was not zubzcribed > % to the list (at least he is not on the zubzcriber list right now and > % majordomo Log file doesn't show that he was ever on the list, it only has > % these two lines with the address of the alegged zubzcriber: > % > % May 12 04:35:13 dominis.com majordomo[5522] {badguy@hishost.com} info > % May 12 04:35:15 dominis.com majordomo[5522] {badguy@hishost.com} help > % > % so, my question is, I guess: > % > % - How can I make sure that only ZUBZCRIBERS can send mail to the list? > % > % Thanks, > % > % Otis > % > % > >----- >John Sechrest . Helping people use > PEAK - . computers and the Internet >Public Electronic . more effectively >Access to Knowledge,Inc . >850 SW 15th Street . Internet: sechrest@peak.org >Corvallis Oregon 97331 . (541) 754-7325 > . http://www.peak.org/~sechrest > From majordomo-users-owner Tue May 12 10:28:03 1998 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-970926-1) id JAA12064; Tue, 12 May 1998 09:44:02 -0700 (PDT) Received: from kitsune.swcp.com (swcp.com [198.59.115.2]) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-980202-1) with ESMTP id JAA12057 for ; Tue, 12 May 1998 09:43:54 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from lazlo@localhost) by kitsune.swcp.com (8.8.8/1.2.3) id KAA18118; Tue, 12 May 1998 10:45:59 -0600 (MDT) Message-ID: <19980512104559.A17784@swcp.com> Date: Tue, 12 May 1998 10:45:59 -0600 From: Lazlo Nibble To: Tim Connolly , "majordomo-users@GreatCircle.COM" Subject: Re: Approving bounced messages: Mail-Followup-To: Tim Connolly , "majordomo-users@GreatCircle.COM" References: <35586E85.44FFA245@mountain.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.91.1i In-Reply-To: <35586E85.44FFA245@mountain.net>; from Tim Connolly on Tue, May 12, 1998 at 11:45:09AM -0400 Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk On Tue, May 12, 1998 at 11:45:09AM -0400, Tim Connolly wrote: > As stated in the FAQ section 3.10 (URL > http://www.greatcircle.com/majordomo/majordomo-faq.html#3.10 ): > > ...on a UNIX system with Perl), you have to do it by hand. The easiest way > is to forward the original message to the list, add the line "Approved: > approval-password" to the very first line of the body... > > I did just this, I forwarded the bounced message to the list with the > first line of my message being "approved "... Then you didn't do what the FAQ told you to do. The FAQ says use "Approved: password", and you used "approved password". You need to follow the instructions more carefully. -- ::: Lazlo (lazlo@swcp.com; http://www.swcp.com/lazlo) ::: Internet Music Wantlists: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo/Wantlists From majordomo-users-owner Tue May 12 10:34:46 1998 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-970926-1) id JAA11461; Tue, 12 May 1998 09:22:33 -0700 (PDT) Received: from peak.org (PEAK.ORG [198.68.22.17]) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-980202-1) with ESMTP id JAA11454 for ; Tue, 12 May 1998 09:22:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (sechrest@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by peak.org (8.8.5/8.6.7) with ESMTP id JAA15541; Tue, 12 May 1998 09:24:26 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199805121624.JAA15541@peak.org> To: "Otis Gospodnetic" Cc: majordomo-users@greatcircle.com Subject: Re: posting even if not on list. In-reply-to: Your message of Tue, 12 May 1998 12:12:26 CDT. <01bd7dc9$22ece190$3582cbd0@otispc.acunet.net> Date: Tue, 12 May 1998 09:24:25 -0700 From: John Sechrest Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk yes, this is how I do it. And if I want to get more restrictive I take list XXX and I create a second list XXX-posters and then I set the restrict_post variable to restrict_post = XXX-posters "Otis Gospodnetic" writes: % Hi, % % > I think you are looking for the restrict-post variable. % % % so if the name of my list is XXX (so email addresses of zubzcribers are in % the file called XXX) % then I can just say: % restrict_post = XXX % % correct? % % Thanks % % Otis % % % % >"Otis Gospodnetic" writes: % > % > % Hello, % > % % > % I have a list that is configured in a way that should let only % zubzcribers % > % post to the list. % > % (well, I thought so until now - I just looked in the .config file and % > % realized I cannot find the config variable that would make this % > % restriction....and I thought I saw it before) % > % % > % Anyhow, somebody just posted to the list even though he was not % zubzcribed % > % to the list (at least he is not on the zubzcriber list right now and % > % majordomo Log file doesn't show that he was ever on the list, it only % has % > % these two lines with the address of the alegged zubzcriber: % > % % > % May 12 04:35:13 dominis.com majordomo[5522] {badguy@hishost.com} info % > % May 12 04:35:15 dominis.com majordomo[5522] {badguy@hishost.com} help % > % % > % so, my question is, I guess: % > % % > % - How can I make sure that only ZUBZCRIBERS can send mail to the list? % > % % > % Thanks, % > % % > % Otis % > % % > % % > % >----- % >John Sechrest . Helping people use % > PEAK - . computers and the Internet % >Public Electronic . more effectively % >Access to Knowledge,Inc . % >850 SW 15th Street . Internet: sechrest@peak.org % >Corvallis Oregon 97331 . (541) 754-7325 % > . http://www.peak.org/~sechrest % > % ----- John Sechrest . Helping people use PEAK - . computers and the Internet Public Electronic . more effectively Access to Knowledge,Inc . 850 SW 15th Street . Internet: sechrest@peak.org Corvallis Oregon 97331 . (541) 754-7325 . http://www.peak.org/~sechrest From majordomo-users-owner Tue May 12 10:36:02 1998 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-970926-1) id JAA12395; Tue, 12 May 1998 09:53:15 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.rmplc.co.uk (dns2.rmplc.co.uk [194.154.16.99]) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-980202-1) with ESMTP id JAA12386 for ; Tue, 12 May 1998 09:53:06 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx0.rmplc.co.uk (hawk.rmplc.co.uk [194.238.48.14]) by mx1.rmplc.co.uk (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id QAA13025; Tue, 12 May 1998 16:48:25 GMT Received: from felsted.rmplc.co.uk ([194.238.175.254]) by mx0.rmplc.co.uk (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id QAA19236; Tue, 12 May 1998 16:54:56 GMT Received: from localhost (pgs@localhost) by felsted.rmplc.co.uk (8.8.7/8.8.5) with SMTP id RAA11308; Tue, 12 May 1998 17:54:02 +0100 (BST) Date: Tue, 12 May 1998 17:54:02 +0100 (BST) From: Paul Statter To: Patti Scanlan cc: majordomo-users@GreatCircle.COM Subject: Re: Moderated handling In-Reply-To: <3.0.5.32.19980512102603.007bb450@mail.libby.org> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk On Tue, 12 May 1998, Patti Scanlan wrote: > Because of some recent flaming on a list I run... I just set my list to > Moderate. Only problem... I can't figure out how to "approve" the messages > and send them on to the list! > > I checked the FAQ.... and don't know if I missed the instructions in there > somewhere. I found the most useful document to be the one I mentioned a few minutes ago: list-owner-info in directory doc. > So... 1) How do you approve a message for it to be sent to the list > 2) does it then use my address as who the message came from or does it > still list the original sender If you delete all the headers down to the date of th original message, it will have the original sender's address in the From: header. If you still have problems, come back to me. I know how confusing it all can be at first. Paul. -- - Paul Statter, Felsted School pgs@felsted.rmplc.co.uk 0973 797113 - Any views expressed are my own and not those of "Felsted School" From majordomo-users-owner Tue May 12 10:39:42 1998 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-970926-1) id JAA11264; Tue, 12 May 1998 09:17:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: from primrose.csv.warwick.ac.uk (primrose.csv.warwick.ac.uk [137.205.192.26]) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-980202-1) with ESMTP id JAA11244 for ; Tue, 12 May 1998 09:17:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from mareb@localhost) by primrose.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.8.7/8.8.8) id RAA21331 for majordomo-users@greatcircle.com; Tue, 12 May 1998 17:19:18 +0100 (BST) From: David Epstein Message-Id: <199805121619.RAA21331@primrose.csv.warwick.ac.uk> Subject: Empty subject line To: majordomo-users@greatcircle.com (mju) Date: Tue, 12 May 1998 17:19:18 +0100 (BST) Organization: Maths Institute, Warwick University, Coventry, UK. Acknowledge-To: dbae@maths.warwick.ac.uk X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL32 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk Why is the subject line empty? I have asked before about this, but with no response. Please could someone tell me what is going wrong. What am I supposed to do in order to get the approve process to work correctly? Majordomo sent me a bounce message with headers as follows: bounce>From postmaster@csv.warwick.ac.uk Mon May 11 09:56:21 1998 bounce>Received: (from daemon@localhost) bounce> by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.8.7/8.8.8) id JAA10726; bounce> Mon, 11 May 1998 09:56:20 +0100 (BST) bounce>Date: Mon, 11 May 1998 09:56:20 +0100 (BST) bounce>From: owner-mathedu@warwick.ac.uk bounce>Message-Id: <199805110856.JAA10726@pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk> bounce>To: owner-mathedu@warwick.ac.uk bounce>Subject: BOUNCE mathedu@warwick.ac.uk: Non-member submission from [Johnston Andrew Anderson ] bounce>Status: RO bounce> bounce>>From mathedu-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Mon May 11 09:56:18 1998 bounce>Received: from maths.nott.ac.uk (cider.maths.nott.ac.uk [128.243.50.7]) bounce> by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.8.7/8.8.8) with ESMTP id JAA10707 bounce> for ; Mon, 11 May 1998 09:56:17 +0100 (BST) bounce>Received: from claret.maths.nott.ac.uk (claret [128.243.50.5]) bounce> by maths.nott.ac.uk (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id JAA23943; bounce> Mon, 11 May 1998 09:56:05 +0100 (BST) bounce>From: Johnston Andrew Anderson bounce>Received: (from jaa@localhost) bounce> by claret.maths.nott.ac.uk (8.8.8/maths.client.2.0) id JAA10467; bounce> Mon, 11 May 1998 09:56:03 +0100 (BST) bounce>Date: Mon, 11 May 1998 09:56:03 +0100 (BST) bounce>Message-Id: <199805110856.JAA10467@claret.maths.nott.ac.uk> bounce>To: BRIDGER@neu.edu, MATHEDU@warwick.ac.uk bounce>Subject: Re: [MATHEDU] Teaching continuity I use elm. I piped this message through the approve script, that is, I hit | and then typed in approve and then hit RETURN. This produced no error message. The message has just arrived in my mail box with a blank Subject: field, presumably as passed on by Majordomo to the list. Here are the headers this time around: list>From mathedu-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Tue May 12 15:47:04 1998 list>Received: (from daemon@localhost) list> by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.8.7/8.8.8) id MAA24343 list> for mathedu-outgoing; Tue, 12 May 1998 12:11:04 +0100 (BST) list>Date: Tue, 12 May 1998 12:10:34 +0100 (BST) list>From: David Epstein list>Message-Id: <199805121110.MAA23799@primrose.csv.warwick.ac.uk> list>To: mathedu@warwick.ac.uk list>Sender: owner-mathedu@warwick.ac.uk list>Precedence: bulk list>Status: RO list> list>Received: from maths.nott.ac.uk (cider.maths.nott.ac.uk [128.243.50.7]) list> by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.8.7/8.8.8) with ESMTP id JAA10707 list> for ; Mon, 11 May 1998 09:56:17 +0100 (BST) list>Received: from claret.maths.nott.ac.uk (claret [128.243.50.5]) list> by maths.nott.ac.uk (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id JAA23943; list> Mon, 11 May 1998 09:56:05 +0100 (BST) list>From: Johnston Andrew Anderson list>Received: (from jaa@localhost) list> by claret.maths.nott.ac.uk (8.8.8/maths.client.2.0) id JAA10467; list> Mon, 11 May 1998 09:56:03 +0100 (BST) list>Date: Mon, 11 May 1998 09:56:03 +0100 (BST) list>Message-Id: <199805110856.JAA10467@claret.maths.nott.ac.uk> list>To: BRIDGER@neu.edu, MATHEDU@warwick.ac.uk list>Subject: Re: [MATHEDU] Teaching continuity I would have expected Majordomo to get rid of the first lot of headers and to send the message out as though it was from Johnston Anderson, not as though it was from me. What is going on? Please advise. David Epstein From majordomo-users-owner Tue May 12 12:09:59 1998 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-970926-1) id LAA15958; Tue, 12 May 1998 11:54:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: from sparkie.osl.state.or.us (sparkie.osl.state.or.us [159.121.122.34]) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-980202-1) with SMTP id LAA15948 for ; Tue, 12 May 1998 11:54:10 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from chris@localhost) by sparkie.osl.state.or.us (8.6.9/8.6.9) id LAA19331; Tue, 12 May 1998 11:54:37 -0700 Date: Tue, 12 May 1998 11:54:36 -0700 (PDT) From: Christopher Adams To: majordomo-users@greatcircle.com Subject: multiple replies to message Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk Can anyone explain why 3 identical replies from the same person would be sent to the same message. Is this Majordomo-related or should I be looking at Sendmail? Christopher Adams Automated Systems Oregon State Library chris@sparkie.osl.state.or.us From majordomo-users-owner Tue May 12 12:53:37 1998 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-970926-1) id MAA17021; Tue, 12 May 1998 12:38:54 -0700 (PDT) Received: from renfrew.edu.on.ca (border.renfrew.edu.on.ca [204.40.151.1]) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-980202-1) with ESMTP id MAA17014 for ; Tue, 12 May 1998 12:38:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: from BOARD1.RENFREW.EDU.ON.CA ([204.40.191.16]) by border.renfrew.edu.on.ca with SMTP id <15233>; Tue, 12 May 1998 15:31:47 -0400 Received: by board1.renfrew.edu.on.ca (MX V4.2 VAX) id 23; Tue, 12 May 1998 15:40:24 EST5EDT4,M4.1.0,M10.5.0 Date: Tue, 12 May 1998 11:40:23 -0400 From: David Priebe To: majordomo-users@greatcircle.com CC: priebe@renfrew.edu.on.ca Message-ID: <009C6144.BDFCE400.23@board1.renfrew.edu.on.ca> Subject: The To: header on addresses from our lists. Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk Hi all, I had a problem with my DNS configuration. In a nutshell I had valleynet.on.ca. in a 204.40.198.3 This caused a problem with mail sent to domains that didn't exist, so I changed it to valleynet.on.ca. in cname valley1.valleynet.on.ca. This solved the mail problem, and I'm told that this is the correct way to do this. What this caused with majordomo is that now any message sent to my mailing lists ex: editors@valleynet.on.ca the To: header on the resulting message is changed to editors@valley1.valleynet.on.ca Anybody know how I can stop this?? David --------------------------------------------------------------------------- | David Priebe | Technical Officer | | System's & Network Analyst | ValleyNet (Renfrew County) Inc. | | Renfrew County Board of Ed. | "Renfrew County's Freenet!" | | priebe@renfrew.edu.on.ca | priebe@valleynet.on.ca | | http://www.renfrew.edu.on.ca | http://www.valleynet.on.ca/ | --------------------------------------------------------------------------- From majordomo-users-owner Tue May 12 13:23:36 1998 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-970926-1) id NAA17615; Tue, 12 May 1998 13:13:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pegasus.host4u.net ([209.150.128.41]) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-980202-1) with ESMTP id NAA17607 for ; Tue, 12 May 1998 13:12:55 -0700 (PDT) Received: from interlink-inc.net (1Cust148.tnt18.atl2.da.uu.net [153.36.118.148]) by pegasus.host4u.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA03332 for ; Tue, 12 May 1998 15:14:59 -0500 Message-ID: <3558AEB2.66503F1D@interlink-inc.net> Date: Tue, 12 May 1998 16:18:58 -0400 From: Chris Baker Organization: Inter*Link Technology Solutions, Inc. X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.05 [en] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Majordomo Mail List Subject: Mail Out Only Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk How can make my mail list where I am the only one who posts to it? -- Thanks for your time, ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Chris Baker Inter*Link Technology Solutions, Inc. Post Office Box 291241 Dept. SoFlo Daytona Beach, Florida 32129-1241 Office 904.428.8167 Toll Free: 1-888-316-4401 *********COMING SOON***************** **Join our HOT BLAST maillist to get **first look into our openings before **we turn them lose to the public. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ From majordomo-users-owner Tue May 12 13:38:02 1998 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-970926-1) id NAA17649; Tue, 12 May 1998 13:15:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: from atle.abc.se (atle.abc.se [192.36.170.16]) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-980202-1) with ESMTP id NAA17634 for ; Tue, 12 May 1998 13:15:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (m8698@localhost) by atle.abc.se (8.8.8+Sun/8.8.8) with SMTP id WAA10352; Tue, 12 May 1998 22:17:39 +0200 (MET DST) X-Authentication-Warning: atle.abc.se: m8698 owned process doing -bs Date: Tue, 12 May 1998 21:17:39 +0100 (MET) From: Mats Dufberg X-Sender: m8698@atle To: David Priebe cc: majordomo-users@GreatCircle.COM Subject: Re: The To: header on addresses from our lists. In-Reply-To: <009C6144.BDFCE400.23@board1.renfrew.edu.on.ca> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk On Tue, 12 May 1998, David Priebe wrote: > This caused a problem with mail sent to domains that didn't exist, so I > changed it to valleynet.on.ca. in cname valley1.valleynet.on.ca. It is probably better to create valleynet.on.ca. in mx 10 valley1.valleynet.on.ca. instead. > What this caused with majordomo is that now any message sent to my mailing > lists ex: editors@valleynet.on.ca the To: header on the resulting message > is changed to editors@valley1.valleynet.on.ca It's a sendmail configuration question. Tell sendmail not to touch any addresses. ----------------------------------------------------------------- Mats Dufberg Mats.Dufberg@abc.se From majordomo-users-owner Tue May 12 13:56:01 1998 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-970926-1) id NAA18164; Tue, 12 May 1998 13:39:43 -0700 (PDT) Received: from acunet.net ([208.203.130.2]) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-980202-1) with ESMTP id NAA18157 for ; Tue, 12 May 1998 13:39:37 -0700 (PDT) Received: from otispc (otispc.acunet.net [208.203.130.53]) by acunet.net (8.8.7/8.8.4) with SMTP id QAA23174; Tue, 12 May 1998 16:41:38 -0400 (EDT) From: "Otis Gospodnetic" To: "Chris Baker" Cc: Subject: Re: Mail Out Only Date: Tue, 12 May 1998 16:33:15 -0500 Message-ID: <01bd7ded$92675a90$3582cbd0@otispc.acunet.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.71.1712.3 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.71.1712.3 Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk use restrict_post directive in your .config file Otis -----Original Message----- From: Chris Baker To: Majordomo Mail List Date: Tuesday, May 12, 1998 3:40 PM Subject: Mail Out Only >How can make my mail list where I am the only one who posts to it? >-- >Thanks for your time, >~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ >Chris Baker >Inter*Link Technology Solutions, Inc. >Post Office Box 291241 >Dept. SoFlo >Daytona Beach, Florida 32129-1241 >Office 904.428.8167 >Toll Free: 1-888-316-4401 >*********COMING SOON***************** >**Join our HOT BLAST maillist to get >**first look into our openings before >**we turn them lose to the public. >~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > From majordomo-users-owner Tue May 12 14:38:36 1998 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-970926-1) id OAA19081; Tue, 12 May 1998 14:28:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: from moat.ieee.org (moat1.ieee.org [199.172.136.5]) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-980202-1) with SMTP id OAA19073 for ; Tue, 12 May 1998 14:27:55 -0700 (PDT) Received: from aries.ieee.org by moat.ieee.org via smtpd (for honor.greatcircle.com [198.102.244.44]) with SMTP; 12 May 1998 21:39:57 UT Received: from froggy.mis.ieee.org (aries.ieee.org [140.98.50.14]) by aries.ieee.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id RAA07259; Tue, 12 May 1998 17:28:25 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <199805122128.RAA07259@aries.ieee.org> Organization: IEEE Service Center, Piscataway, NJ X-Sender: burt@staff.ieee.org (Unverified) X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.0.1 Date: Tue, 12 May 1998 17:27:53 -0400 To: Chris Baker From: burt@staff.ieee.org (Burt Juda) Subject: Re: Mail Out Only Cc: majordomo-users@GreatCircle.COM In-Reply-To: <3558AEB2.66503F1D@interlink-inc.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk At 04:18 PM 5/12/98 -0400, Chris Baker wrote: >How can make my mail list where I am the only one who posts to it? In the config: restrict_post = LISTNAME.posters Contents of LISTNAME.posters file: cpb@interlink-inc.net and nothing else. Majordomo will compare the "From:" header with the contents of this file. From majordomo-users-owner Tue May 12 14:54:08 1998 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-970926-1) id OAA19207; Tue, 12 May 1998 14:35:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: from prescienttech.com (londo.prescienttech.com [199.103.216.62]) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-980202-1) with ESMTP id OAA19193 for ; Tue, 12 May 1998 14:35:48 -0700 (PDT) Received: from gkar.prescienttech.com. (gkar.prescienttech.com [111.17.19.1]) by prescienttech.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id RAA28820 for ; Tue, 12 May 1998 17:37:57 -0400 From: Rich Pieri To: majordomo-users@greatcircle.com Subject: Re: Mail Out Only References: <3558AEB2.66503F1D@interlink-inc.net> X-No-Archive: yes Mail-Copies-To: never Date: 12 May 1998 17:37:57 -0400 In-Reply-To: Chris Baker's message of "Tue, 12 May 1998 16:18:58 -0400" Message-ID: Lines: 24 X-Mailer: Gnus v5.4.66/Emacs 19.34 Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Chris Baker writes: > How can make my mail list where I am the only one who posts to it? That is what moderated lists are. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 4.0 Business Edition Charset: noconv iQCVAwUBNVjBNJ6VRH7BJMxHAQEAxAQAl3rQIW1C87Vhz+FACk82ySyBaXy+tZn2 W55AtELHUNI0I8RMzaAA1DN87T83MOzbXXF6TYsgNUxfCJqxsJpImnQNb+K/D6fc h7ZxFSnc7gaD+6Ah6E+Afp3OwJzXJiz01eF4G1bShe70IPIsG1c8I2f5lLhEl0/J 3sa3apBp59E= =jJSb -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- Rich Pieri / If Happy Fun Ball begins to smoke, Sysmonster, Unix Wrangler / get away immediately. Seek shelter Prescient Technologies, Inc. / and cover head. I speak for myself, not PTI or SWEC / From majordomo-users-owner Tue May 12 14:56:29 1998 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-970926-1) id OAA19080; Tue, 12 May 1998 14:27:58 -0700 (PDT) Received: from moat.ieee.org (moat1.ieee.org [199.172.136.5]) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-980202-1) with SMTP id OAA19065 for ; Tue, 12 May 1998 14:27:51 -0700 (PDT) Received: from aries.ieee.org by moat.ieee.org via smtpd (for honor.greatcircle.com [198.102.244.44]) with SMTP; 12 May 1998 21:39:53 UT Received: from froggy.mis.ieee.org (aries.ieee.org [140.98.50.14]) by aries.ieee.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id RAA07255; Tue, 12 May 1998 17:28:23 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <199805122128.RAA07255@aries.ieee.org> Organization: IEEE Service Center, Piscataway, NJ X-Sender: burt@staff.ieee.org (Unverified) X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.0.1 Date: Tue, 12 May 1998 17:25:38 -0400 To: David Priebe From: burt@staff.ieee.org (Burt Juda) Subject: Re: The To: header on addresses from our lists. Cc: majordomo-users@GreatCircle.COM In-Reply-To: <009C6144.BDFCE400.23@board1.renfrew.edu.on.ca> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk At 11:40 AM 5/12/98 -0400, David Priebe wrote: >I had a problem with my DNS configuration. In a nutshell I had >valleynet.on.ca. in a 204.40.198.3 > >This caused a problem with mail sent to domains that didn't exist, so I >changed it to valleynet.on.ca. in cname valley1.valleynet.on.ca. > >This solved the mail problem, and I'm told that this is the correct way to >do this. > >What this caused with majordomo is that now any message sent to my mailing >lists ex: editors@valleynet.on.ca the To: header on the resulting message >is changed to editors@valley1.valleynet.on.ca > >Anybody know how I can stop this?? Construct your entry as follows: valleynet.on.ca. in a 204.40.198.3 valleynet.on.ca. in MX 0 valley1.valleynet.on.ca. That will route the mail correctly, but sendmail will not rewrite the hostname in the headers. -- =*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*= Burt Juda Internet: burt@staff.ieee.org IEEE - Information Technology - Electronic Communications 445 Hoes Lane Piscataway, NJ 08855 IEEE, Networking the World: http://www.ieee.org/eleccomm/ =*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*= From majordomo-users-owner Tue May 12 15:09:19 1998 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-970926-1) id OAA19135; Tue, 12 May 1998 14:31:02 -0700 (PDT) Received: from rose.ny.cantor.com (rose.cantor.com [198.80.21.33]) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-980202-1) with SMTP id OAA19127 for ; Tue, 12 May 1998 14:30:57 -0700 (PDT) From: dave_thomson@cantor.com Received: by rose.ny.cantor.com (8.6.9) id RAA22897; Tue, 12 May 1998 17:33:05 -0400 Received: from nysmtp01.ny.cantor.com(148.106.77.80) by rose.ny.cantor.com via smap (V1.3) id sma022884; Tue May 12 17:32:59 1998 Received: from ccMail by cantor.com (ccMail Link to SMTP R8.11.00.3) id AA895008819; Tue, 12 May 98 17:33:43 -0500 Message-Id: <9805128950.AA895008819@cantor.com> X-Mailer: ccMail Link to SMTP R8.11.00.3 Date: Tue, 12 May 98 17:29:40 -0500 To: , Subject: Re: Problem with v1.9.4 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Description: "cc:Mail Note Part" Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk what are the permissions and owner on /etc/lists/toy.new ? dave_thomson@cantor.com ______________________________ Reply Separator _________________________________ Subject: Problem with v1.9.4 Author: David Bank at Internet Date: 5/12/98 12:44 PM Hello the List. I'm running Majordomo v1.9.4 on a Sparc20 with Solaris v2.6 and Sendmail v8.6.8. I've been getting errors like this: --- Cut here --- MAJORDOMO ABORT (mj_majordomo)!! chmod(33200, "/etc/lists/toy.new"): Not owner --- Cut here --- I've checked majordomo, resend and wrapper for permissions. They look like this: -rwxr-xr-x 1 majordom listown 29516 Feb 6 21:15 resend* -rwsr-xr-x 1 root listown 8604 Feb 6 21:16 wrapper* -rwxr-xr-x 1 majordom listown 64247 Feb 6 21:15 majordomo* When I run the config-test script, it reports everything is OK and sez Majordomo should run fine. What am I doing wrong? David Bank, Senior Network Engineer Public Schools of North Carolina, Department of Public Instruction Information and Technology Services, Networking Technologies Division Network Support Services Section Voice: 919-715-2138 Fax: 919-715-2248 SMTP E-Mail: dbank@dpi.state.nc.us Attachments: MIME or UUENCODE, no HTML please From majordomo-users-owner Tue May 12 15:15:13 1998 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-970926-1) id OAA19277; Tue, 12 May 1998 14:42:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: from prescienttech.com (londo.prescienttech.com [199.103.216.62]) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-980202-1) with ESMTP id OAA19270 for ; Tue, 12 May 1998 14:41:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: from gkar.prescienttech.com. (gkar.prescienttech.com [111.17.19.1]) by prescienttech.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id RAA28993 for ; Tue, 12 May 1998 17:44:06 -0400 From: Rich Pieri To: majordomo-users@greatcircle.com Subject: Re: The To: header on addresses from our lists. References: <009C6144.BDFCE400.23@board1.renfrew.edu.on.ca> X-No-Archive: yes Mail-Copies-To: never Date: 12 May 1998 17:44:06 -0400 In-Reply-To: David Priebe's message of "Tue, 12 May 1998 11:40:23 -0400" Message-ID: Lines: 41 X-Mailer: Gnus v5.4.66/Emacs 19.34 Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- David Priebe writes: > This caused a problem with mail sent to domains that didn't exist, so I > changed it to valleynet.on.ca. in cname valley1.valleynet.on.ca. You would be better of using MX records. To wit, if "valleynet.on.ca" is where you want mail to be addressed, but you want mail to go to one of valley[1-5].valleynet.on.ca, you would set up something like this: valleynet.on.ca IN MX 10 valley1.valleynet.on.ca 10 valley2.valleynet.on.ca 10 valley3.valleynet.on.ca 10 valley4.valleynet.on.ca 10 valley5.valleynet.on.ca 20 fallback.valleynet.on.ca The duplicate "10" priorities will result in incoming mail being roughly distributed amongst valley[1-5], and if they all fail then fallback (priority 20) will be used. If you have only one mail server, then this will be sufficient: valleynet.on.ca IN MX 10 valley1.valleynet.on.ca -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 4.0 Business Edition Charset: noconv iQCVAwUBNVjCpJ6VRH7BJMxHAQGJmgP/a6olKg8ytP1KzU75RncJjPk8e3LCVx4V QnJsGo7ulMIILN4yakZtWpiHkNyJBHeUa+k3vdZrCc6UkkOMwqWP9Sof0eU4t7lK 8simk+/uUl9tJ0HQvnJoLAMET2qI+0yd7nrKlTP1OOnbppqLXFYJpdamTYtZ4fnz MsNJC/xju+0= =yjzV -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- Rich Pieri / Happy Fun Ball contains a liquid Sysmonster, Unix Wrangler / core, which, if exposed due to Prescient Technologies, Inc. / rupture, should not be touched, I speak for myself, not PTI or SWEC / inhaled, or looked at. From majordomo-users-owner Tue May 12 16:38:36 1998 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-970926-1) id QAA21155; Tue, 12 May 1998 16:19:41 -0700 (PDT) Received: from dry3.jps.net (dry3.jps.net [208.25.63.31]) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-980202-1) with ESMTP id QAA21148 for ; Tue, 12 May 1998 16:19:36 -0700 (PDT) Received: from deepthought (oak-port352.jps.net [209.142.29.112]) by dry3.jps.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id QAA17276 for ; Tue, 12 May 1998 16:23:46 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <3558DA3B.660B39AF@jps.net> Date: Tue, 12 May 1998 16:24:43 -0700 From: Deepsquatter X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.01 [en] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: majordomo-users@GreatCircle.COM Subject: Digest creation? X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk Hello, Let me apologize in advance as I'm sure many of you have answered a similar question in the past. My webhosting provider offers a free majordomo list. I currently run a list on a ListServ and would like to move it to the majordomo list. (free vs $100+ per quarter) With the help of the support people I've been able to start a non digest list as well as a digest version of the list BUT every time a post is made to the non digest list a new digest is generated. Even if the post to the non digest is only one line a new digest is generated. The support people are helpful/friendly but I'm getting the feeling that they aren't much more familiar with the majordomo list than I am. They seem to thing the problem is in the configs but aren't sure what is wrong. I do know the digest maxlines is set to 500 so it seems that a one line post should not generate a digest. Any help would be appreciated. Please let me know if more information is needed. Thanks, -- ---- Jason W. Burnell STRENGTH ONLINE: http://www.deepsquatter.com DAC - West Coast Chapter Raider Fan Till I Die - 16-0 in 1998 From majordomo-users-owner Tue May 12 17:53:49 1998 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-970926-1) id RAA22366; Tue, 12 May 1998 17:44:33 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-out-0.tiac.net (mail-out-0.tiac.net [199.0.65.247]) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-980202-1) with ESMTP id RAA22359 for ; Tue, 12 May 1998 17:44:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-out-3.tiac.net (mail-out-3.tiac.net [199.0.65.15]) by mail-out-0.tiac.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id UAA29174 for ; Tue, 12 May 1998 20:46:33 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from sdavid@tiac.net) Received: from sdavid.tiac.net (sdavid.tiac.net [206.105.157.50]) by mail-out-3.tiac.net (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id UAA18711 for ; Tue, 12 May 1998 20:46:34 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from sdavid@tiac.net) Date: Tue, 12 May 1998 20:46:40 -0400 (EDT) From: Scott David Gray To: majordomo-users@greatcircle.com Subject: Insecure dependency in majordomo?? Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: MULTIPART/REPORT; REPORT-TYPE=delivery-status; BOUNDARY="UAB06382.895019853/Aramis.sudval.org" Content-ID: Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk This message is in MIME format. The first part should be readable text, while the remaining parts are likely unreadable without MIME-aware tools. Send mail to mime@docserver.cac.washington.edu for more info. --UAB06382.895019853/Aramis.sudval.org Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII Content-ID: Hi, I'm running Majordomo-1.94.4 on a Linux box. Well, trying to. When I run the wrapper config-test, it comes back happy (yes, I'm running it with a user-level account). And I can send a messge _to_ a list. However, majordomo doesn't do anything. Any message to majordomo comes back with "unknown mailer error 255". I've repeated the message below. The path (/usr/local/majordomo) is correct. Thoughts? --Scott David Gray reply to: sdavid@tiac.net http://www.sudval.org/users/sdg ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Tue, 12 May 1998 20:37:33 -0400 From: Mail Delivery Subsystem To: sdg@sudval.org Subject: Returned mail: unknown mailer error 255 The original message was received at Tue, 12 May 1998 20:37:32 -0400 from mail-out-0.tiac.net [199.0.65.247] ----- The following addresses had permanent fatal errors ----- "|/usr/local/majordomo/wrapper majordomo" (expanded from: ) ----- Transcript of session follows ----- Insecure dependency in require while running setuid at /usr/local/majordomo/majordomo line 47. 554 "|/usr/local/majordomo/wrapper majordomo"... unknown mailer error 255 --UAB06382.895019853/Aramis.sudval.org Content-Type: MESSAGE/DELIVERY-STATUS Content-ID: Reporting-MTA: dns; Aramis.sudval.org Received-From-MTA: DNS; mail-out-0.tiac.net Arrival-Date: Tue, 12 May 1998 20:37:32 -0400 Final-Recipient: RFC822; majordomo@Aramis.sudval.org X-Actual-Recipient: RFC822; |/usr/local/majordomo/wrapper majordomo@Aramis.sudval.org Action: failed Status: 5.0.0 Last-Attempt-Date: Tue, 12 May 1998 20:37:33 -0400 --UAB06382.895019853/Aramis.sudval.org Content-Type: MESSAGE/RFC822 Content-ID: Return-Path: Received: from mail-out-0.tiac.net (mail-out-0.tiac.net [199.0.65.247]) by Aramis.sudval.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id UAA06381 for ; Tue, 12 May 1998 20:37:32 -0400 Received: from mail-out-3.tiac.net (mail-out-3.tiac.net [199.0.65.15]) by mail-out-0.tiac.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id UAA32436 for ; Tue, 12 May 1998 20:38:40 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from sdavid@tiac.net) Received: from sdavid.tiac.net (sdavid.tiac.net [206.105.157.50]) by mail-out-3.tiac.net (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id UAA18307 for ; Tue, 12 May 1998 20:38:43 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from sdavid@tiac.net) Date: Tue, 12 May 1998 20:38:48 -0400 (EDT) From: Scott David Gray To: majordomo Subject: lists Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII lists who msm-gms --UAB06382.895019853/Aramis.sudval.org-- From majordomo-users-owner Tue May 12 18:53:50 1998 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-970926-1) id SAA23292; Tue, 12 May 1998 18:42:11 -0700 (PDT) Received: from wraith.internode.com.au (wraith.internode.com.au [192.83.231.1]) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-980202-1) with SMTP id SAA23268 for ; Tue, 12 May 1998 18:42:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: from learjet60.sell.net by wraith.internode.com.au (was once sendmail 5.83--+1.3.1+0.50/UA-5.23) with SMTP id AA21014 for return ; Wed, 13 May 1998 11:09:39 +1030 Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.19980513091300.00872580@mail.adelaide.on.net> X-Sender: ns@mail.adelaide.on.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.5 (32) Date: Wed, 13 May 1998 09:13:00 +0900 To: majordomo-users@greatcircle.com From: Richard Sharpe Subject: Bounces and undeliverable messages set to the subscribers Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk Hi, I have a problem with a mailing list I am running. If any message gets bounced, perhaps because an address has gone bad, the subscribers see the bounce messages. I recently had a mail loop, because one of the addresses was bad, and it caused a bounce, which went to the users, which caused a bounce which ... What should I suspect? I have the list set up thusly list: "|/usr/local/majordomo/wrapper resend -l list list-redir" list-regdir: :include: /usr/local/majordomo/lists/list, "|/usr /local/majordomo/wrapper harchive2.pl -a -m -f /usr/local/www/public/hyperarchive/list" Regards ------- Richard Sharpe, sharpe@ns.aus.com, NIC-Handle:RJS96 NS Computer Software and Services P/L, Ph: +61-8-8281-0063, FAX: +61-8-8250-2080, Samba, Linux, Apache, Digital UNIX, AIX, Netscape, Stronghold, C, ... From majordomo-users-owner Tue May 12 19:23:39 1998 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-970926-1) id TAA23865; Tue, 12 May 1998 19:17:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: from sina.hpc.uh.edu (Sina.HPC.UH.EDU [129.7.3.5]) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-980202-1) with ESMTP id TAA23858 for ; Tue, 12 May 1998 19:17:37 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from tibbs@localhost) by sina.hpc.uh.edu (8.7.3/8.7.3) id VAA22744; Tue, 12 May 1998 21:20:02 -0500 (CDT) To: Scott David Gray Cc: majordomo-users@GreatCircle.COM Subject: Re: Insecure dependency in majordomo?? References: Mime-Version: 1.0 (generated by tm-edit 7.100) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII From: Jason L Tibbitts III Date: 12 May 1998 21:20:02 -0500 In-Reply-To: Scott David Gray's message of "Tue, 12 May 1998 20:46:40 -0400 (EDT)" Message-ID: Lines: 13 X-Mailer: Gnus v5.6.9/Emacs 19.34 Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk >>>>> "SDG" == Scott David Gray writes: SDG> Insecure dependency in require while running setuid at SDG> /usr/local/majordomo/majordomo line 47. This message is issued by perl when running a script with the -T option, or when running a script that has the setuid bit set. A proper installation has neither of these. Does 'majordomo' have the setuid bit turned on for some odd reason? How did it get turned on? - J< From majordomo-users-owner Tue May 12 19:54:02 1998 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-970926-1) id TAA24447; Tue, 12 May 1998 19:52:29 -0700 (PDT) From: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Received: from miles.greatcircle.com (miles.greatcircle.com [198.102.244.45]) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-980202-1) with ESMTP id TAA24418; Tue, 12 May 1998 19:52:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: from 206.175.99.130 (hdn91-130.hil.compuserve.com [206.175.99.130]) by miles.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id TAA29692; Tue, 12 May 1998 19:53:08 -0700 (PDT) Date: Tue, 12 May 1998 19:53:08 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199805130253.TAA29692@miles.greatcircle.com> Subject: Independent Price Survey of 175 Life Insurance Companies Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk Visit http://207.93.198.41/budmaster.htm to see the results of a recent independent survey of over 175 life insurance companies. Here is a sample: GUARANTEED MONTHLY PREMIUM FOR $250,000 FOR 10 YEAR TERM: Age Sex Preferred Health Standard Health 25 M $14.14 $17.18 25 F $11.96 $14.36 35 M $14.14 $17.18 35 F $11.96 $14.36 45 M $30.01 $36.68 45 F $20.47 $25.20 55 M $59.72 $77.85 55 F $44.41 $52.88 WE ARE NOT AFFILIATED WITH THE INSURANCE INDUSTRY... ..so these are not quotes. We are computer specialists, and we publish information. So take advantage of months of research and development. DON'T TALK TO AN AGENT UNTIL YOU GET THE FACTS http://207.93.198.41/budmaster.htm From majordomo-users-owner Tue May 12 20:24:01 1998 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-970926-1) id UAA24852; Tue, 12 May 1998 20:10:17 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lsi.lsil.com (lsi.lsil.com [147.145.40.2]) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-980202-1) with ESMTP id UAA24843 for ; Tue, 12 May 1998 20:10:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mhbs.lsil.com ([147.145.29.36]) by lsi.lsil.com with ESMTP id UAA22390 (8.6.12/IDA-1.6 for ); Tue, 12 May 1998 20:12:19 -0700 Received: from pa53w7.lsil.com by mhbs.lsil.com with ESMTP; Tue, 12 May 1998 20:12:16 -0700 Received: from localhost (jcoop@localhost) by pa53w7.lsil.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id UAA26729 for ; Tue, 12 May 1998 20:12:17 -0700 (PDT) X-Authentication-Warning: pa53w7.lsil.com: jcoop owned process doing -bs Date: Tue, 12 May 1998 20:12:15 -0700 (PDT) From: John Cooper Reply-To: John Cooper To: majordomo-users@GreatCircle.COM Subject: Re: Digest creation? In-Reply-To: <3558DA3B.660B39AF@jps.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk On Tue, 12 May 1998, Deepsquatter wrote: > Hello, > Let me apologize in advance as I'm sure many of you have answered a > similar question in the past. My webhosting provider offers a free > majordomo list. I currently run a list on a ListServ and would like to > move it to the majordomo list. (free vs $100+ per quarter) > > With the help of the support people I've been able to start a non digest > list as well as a digest version of the list BUT every time a post is > made to the non digest list a new digest is generated. Even if the post > to the non digest is only one line a new digest is generated. > The support people are helpful/friendly but I'm getting the feeling that > they aren't much more familiar with the majordomo list than I am. They > seem to thing the problem is in the configs but aren't sure what is > wrong. I do know the digest maxlines is set to 500 so it seems that a > one line post should not generate a digest. > Any help would be appreciated. Please let me know if more information is > needed. > Thanks, > -- I am having the same problem with a majordomo list at an ISP. I've identified the config option that causes it for me. If I have digest_maxdays set to anything it will create a digest for every message. My ISP also does not support the mkdigest command, so I have to rely on digest_maxlines only to create digests. The ISP using majordomo version 1.94.3, does anyone know of a bug related to this with this version of majordomo? Thanks, John / / __ _ _ _ _ __ __ / /__ / / / \// //_// \ \/ / /____/ /_/ /_/\/ /___/ /_/\_\ ...for IQ's Greater than 95... From majordomo-users-owner Tue May 12 22:24:22 1998 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-970926-1) id WAA26461; Tue, 12 May 1998 22:12:15 -0700 (PDT) Received: from hotmail.com (f35.hotmail.com [207.82.250.46]) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-980202-1) with SMTP id WAA26453 for ; Tue, 12 May 1998 22:12:10 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 16413 invoked by uid 0); 13 May 1998 05:14:23 -0000 Message-ID: <19980513051423.16412.qmail@hotmail.com> Received: from 203.130.2.9 by www.hotmail.com with HTTP; Tue, 12 May 1998 22:14:23 PDT X-Originating-IP: [203.130.2.9] From: "Tee Emm" To: tm@hotmail.com, manar@ivision.co.uk Cc: majordomo-users@greatcircle.com Subject: Re: Confirmation Feature Content-Type: text/plain Date: Tue, 12 May 1998 22:14:23 PDT Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk >>I need to incorporate the 'subscription confirmation feature' in my >>majordomo. Does this require a newer version of majordomo or a >>patch? Where can I get more information (and the patch) from? > >It's in 1.94.4 but there's a better version available as a patch from >oyxmoron or some such - search through the archives. > >Manar Assalamo Alaikum and thanks a ton for your reply. I've been told that 1.94.3 (the one that I'm currently running) also has this feature and it just needs to be turned on. I must explore this. Thanks for your tip on the oxymoron patch. Will search for it. -- Tariq Mustafa Pakistan ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com From majordomo-users-owner Tue May 12 22:38:41 1998 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-970926-1) id WAA26814; Tue, 12 May 1998 22:32:11 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mbe07.physik.uni-bremen.de (mbe07.physik.uni-bremen.de [134.102.176.137]) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-980202-1) with ESMTP id WAA26805 for ; Tue, 12 May 1998 22:32:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: from physik.uni-bremen.de (fehrer@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mbe07.physik.uni-bremen.de (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id HAA19524 for ; Wed, 13 May 1998 07:34:15 +0200 Message-ID: <355930D6.17558E40@physik.uni-bremen.de> Date: Wed, 13 May 1998 07:34:14 +0200 From: Michael Fehrer Organization: Institut fuer Festkoerperphysik - Universitaet Bremen X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (X11; I; Linux 2.0.33 i586) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Majordomo-Users@GreatCircle.COM Subject: Reply-to is not o.k. Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk Hi, we have installed majordomo on a machine called "machine1.physics.uni-bremen.de". If we put a line "resend_host = machine1.physics.uni-bremen.de" to the config-file for a mailing list, only "physics.uni-bremen.de" appears as a reply-address. The reply-address HAS to be "machine1.physics.uni-bremen.de". What did we wrong or what can we do? Thanks Michael From majordomo-users-owner Tue May 12 23:08:36 1998 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-970926-1) id XAA27400; Tue, 12 May 1998 23:04:11 -0700 (PDT) Received: from htlwrn.ac.at (sun.htlwrn.ac.at [193.170.149.151]) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-980202-1) with SMTP id XAA27393 for ; Tue, 12 May 1998 23:04:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ppp1 by htlwrn.ac.at (5.x/SMI-SVR4) id AA18046; Wed, 13 May 1998 08:26:44 +0200 Message-Id: <355938E6.D491CF92@htlwrn.ac.at> Date: Wed, 13 May 1998 08:08:38 +0200 From: Werner Cyrmon X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (WinNT; I) Mime-Version: 1.0 To: major Subject: Newbie Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk Hi, I am a newbie trying to install Majordomo 1.94 on FreeBsd 2.6. All works fine an I can subsribe to the test list if I am logged in as user on the majordomo-machine. If i am sending mails to majordomo from other machines in our LAN, first there comes the message "no user majordomo" ?? So I created an alias majordomo, pointing to the user majordom. Now the mail is acceptted, but nothing happens, the mail dissap. in the CPU-Nirvana. Whats wrong? Why is there no user majordomo: the alias majordomo: "|/majordomo/wrapper majordomo" is in aliases.majordomo in the right place, an I ran newaliases (there are 2 warnings: WARNING majordomo is a writeble dir). What are the necc. permissions for aliases.majordomo? Thanx for any help Werner -- ********************************************************** Mag. Werner Cyrmon HTBLuVA - EDVO Win95-plug and pray ! Wr. Neustadt http://www.htlwrn.ac.at/cyx ********************************************************** From majordomo-users-owner Wed May 13 02:08:37 1998 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-970926-1) id BAA00396; Wed, 13 May 1998 01:59:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: from monster.cu.kiev.ua (gu-cu.gu.net [194.93.160.40]) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-980202-1) with ESMTP id BAA00384 for ; Wed, 13 May 1998 01:59:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: from cu.kiev.ua ([194.93.168.129]) by monster.cu.kiev.ua (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id LAA07653 for ; Wed, 13 May 1998 11:54:19 +0300 Message-ID: <35596132.52E6B5FA@cu.kiev.ua> Date: Wed, 13 May 1998 12:00:40 +0300 From: Vladimir Lech Organization: Consulting Ukraine Group X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.05 (Macintosh; I; PPC) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Majordomo-Users@GreatCircle.COM Subject: -->Majordomo abort! Content-Type: text/plain; charset=koi8-r; x-mac-type="54455854"; x-mac-creator="4D4F5353" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk Hello, I'm new to Majordomo, so please help me a little. What is a strange error msg like: #--- MAJORDOMO ABORT (mj_majordomo)!! Majordomo@cu.kiev.ua: is not a valid return address. #--- I have no idea what is going on. Thanks in advance Vladimir From majordomo-users-owner Wed May 13 08:09:12 1998 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-970926-1) id IAA06790; Wed, 13 May 1998 08:06:26 -0700 (PDT) Received: from prescienttech.com (londo.prescienttech.com [199.103.216.62]) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-980202-1) with ESMTP id IAA06783 for ; Wed, 13 May 1998 08:06:15 -0700 (PDT) Received: from gkar.prescienttech.com. (gkar.prescienttech.com [111.17.19.1]) by prescienttech.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id LAA29671 for ; Wed, 13 May 1998 11:08:32 -0400 From: Rich Pieri To: majordomo-users@greatcircle.com Subject: Re: Reply-to is not o.k. References: <355930D6.17558E40@physik.uni-bremen.de> X-No-Archive: yes Mail-Copies-To: never Date: 13 May 1998 11:08:32 -0400 In-Reply-To: Michael Fehrer's message of "Wed, 13 May 1998 07:34:14 +0200" Message-ID: Lines: 29 X-Mailer: Gnus v5.4.66/Emacs 19.34 Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Michael Fehrer writes: > "resend_host = machine1.physics.uni-bremen.de" to the config-file for a > mailing list, only "physics.uni-bremen.de" appears as a reply-address. > The reply-address HAS to be "machine1.physics.uni-bremen.de". What did > we wrong or what can we do? Set up an MX record for machine1.physics.uni-bremen.de in your DNS. I posted yesterday a more detailed description of what the record should look like. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 4.0 Business Edition Charset: noconv iQCVAwUBNVm3bJ6VRH7BJMxHAQEmLgP/UZ/fz5F0DCwsqwOudrpX/F63iadJD0zg Lh5g8EiTgScAd7tZMRTOM2PYY3R6ND33rOCyrnsmGQkzX7OE0P96/14hEfUaFEnH lEVBGP0W6KMFoikGi5dODjdd7AkXEZeMBr+6JPHqXy/HxwP3IkXj3QJQEOjKhGY2 jhQPlH/0RmU= =eayW -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- Rich Pieri / Caution: Happy Fun Ball may Sysmonster, Unix Wrangler / suddenly accelerate to dangerous Prescient Technologies, Inc. / speeds. I speak for myself, not PTI or SWEC / From majordomo-users-owner Wed May 13 09:27:40 1998 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-970926-1) id JAA08053; Wed, 13 May 1998 09:22:48 -0700 (PDT) Received: from primrose.csv.warwick.ac.uk (primrose.csv.warwick.ac.uk [137.205.192.26]) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-980202-1) with ESMTP id JAA08027 for ; Wed, 13 May 1998 09:20:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from mareb@localhost) by primrose.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.8.7/8.8.8) id RAA23296 for majordomo-users@greatcircle.com; Wed, 13 May 1998 17:22:11 +0100 (BST) From: David Epstein Message-Id: <199805131622.RAA23296@primrose.csv.warwick.ac.uk> Subject: Empty subject line again To: majordomo-users@greatcircle.com (mju) Date: Wed, 13 May 1998 17:22:11 +0100 (BST) Organization: Maths Institute, Warwick University, Coventry, UK. Acknowledge-To: dbae@maths.warwick.ac.uk X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL32 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk My previous posting about empty subject lines elicited two replies, both private. My problem was that when I piped a BOUNCE posting through the script approve, it appeared without a subject line. One answer advised me to use the technique of editing the BOUNCE message by inserting an Approved: header. BUT the FAQ advises piping through "approve" as a less error prone method. The other answer, from Tim Connolly , suggested that I check whether my config file had somehow become corrupted. So I sent the command writeconfig listname password to majordomo and, sure enough, back came the message that there is an error in the config file. A message has been sent by the system to the person in charge of majordomo here. It seems that an ordinary list-owner can't fix such corruptions him/herself. It's not clear how errors can arise, as majordomo is supposed to parse and check that any suggested change by the list-owner to the config file is correct. But I suppose there are always gamma rays and other gremlins which could be responsible. Anyway, thanks for the tip, Tim, though I'm not at all sure that this is the only thing that has gone wrong with my set-up. But I should have a better chance with an uncorrupted config file. David Epstein. From majordomo-users-owner Wed May 13 11:27:31 1998 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-970926-1) id KAA09162; Wed, 13 May 1998 10:25:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pegasus.host4u.net (pegasus.host4u.net [209.150.128.41]) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-980202-1) with ESMTP id KAA09153 for ; Wed, 13 May 1998 10:25:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: from interlink-inc.net (1Cust84.tnt18.atl2.da.uu.net [153.36.118.84]) by pegasus.host4u.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA00923 for ; Wed, 13 May 1998 12:27:31 -0500 Message-ID: <3559D8F5.5F579CD8@interlink-inc.net> Date: Wed, 13 May 1998 13:31:33 -0400 From: Chris Baker Organization: Inter*Link Technology Solutions, Inc. (http://www.interlink-inc.net) X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.05 [en] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Majordomo Mail List Subject: Mail2News Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk I have dowloaded the files needed to allow posting to newgroups. Is anyone firmiliar with how to set it up. I don't quite understand what it is saying, it pver my head. So if someone has experience with this please let me know. -- Thanks for your time, ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Chris Baker Inter*Link Technology Solutions, Inc. Post Office Box 291241 Dept. SoFlo Daytona Beach, Florida 32129-1241 Office 904.428.8167 Toll Free: 1-888-316-4401 *********COMING SOON***************** **Join our HOT BLAST maillist to get **first look into our openings before **we turn them lose to the public. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ From majordomo-users-owner Wed May 13 11:59:34 1998 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-970926-1) id LAA10390; Wed, 13 May 1998 11:41:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: from bc.mountain.net (BC.Mountain.Net [198.77.1.35]) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-980202-1) with ESMTP id LAA10374 for ; Wed, 13 May 1998 11:40:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mountain.net (tec.Mountain.Net [198.77.1.37]) by bc.mountain.net (8.8.7/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA15251 for ; Wed, 13 May 1998 14:41:56 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <3559E8EF.9F23D198@mountain.net> Date: Wed, 13 May 1998 14:39:43 -0400 From: Tim Connolly Organization: Mountain.Net, Inc. X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: mju Subject: Re: Empty subject line again References: <199805131622.RAA23296@primrose.csv.warwick.ac.uk> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk Credit me with this one... I figure I'm back at ground zero since I have asked a few RTFM's lately... David Epstein wrote: > My previous posting about empty subject lines elicited two replies, > both private. > My problem was that when I piped a BOUNCE posting through the > script approve, it appeared without a subject line. > > One answer advised me to use the technique of editing the BOUNCE > message by inserting an Approved: header. > BUT the FAQ advises piping through "approve" as a less error prone > method. > > The other answer, from Tim Connolly , suggested that > I check whether my config file had somehow become corrupted. > > So I sent the command > writeconfig listname password > to majordomo > and, sure enough, back came the message that there is an error in the > config file. A message has been sent by the system to the person in > charge of majordomo here. It seems that an ordinary list-owner can't > fix such corruptions him/herself. > > It's not clear how errors can arise, as majordomo is supposed to parse > and check that any suggested change by the list-owner to the config > file is correct. But I suppose there are always gamma rays and other > gremlins which could be responsible. > > Anyway, thanks for the tip, Tim, though I'm not at all sure that this > is the only thing that has gone wrong with my set-up. But I should > have a better chance with an uncorrupted config file. > > David Epstein. -- Tim Connolly tec@mountain.net MountainNet, Inc. -- (304) 594-9075 ext. 37 2816 Cranberry Square -- fax (304) 594-9088 Morgantown, WV 26505 -- If you sit down at a poker game and don't see a sucker, -- get up. You're the sucker. (Story of my life) From majordomo-users-owner Wed May 13 12:06:17 1998 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-970926-1) id LAA10363; Wed, 13 May 1998 11:38:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: from atlrel2.hp.com (atlrel2.hp.com [156.153.255.202]) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-980202-1) with ESMTP id LAA10356 for ; Wed, 13 May 1998 11:37:58 -0700 (PDT) Received: from hpbs2101.boi.hp.com (hpbs2101.boi.hp.com [15.62.123.250]) by atlrel2.hp.com (8.8.6/8.8.5tis) with ESMTP id OAA01063 for ; Wed, 13 May 1998 14:39:08 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mintcc.external.hp.com ([156.152.32.66]) by hpbs2101.boi.hp.com with ESMTP (8.7.1/8.7.1) id MAA06012 for ; Wed, 13 May 1998 12:39:21 -0600 (MDT) Received: from krusty.mint-tech.com (krusty.external.hp.com [156.152.32.74]) by mintcc.external.hp.com with ESMTP (8.7.1/8.7.1) id OAA05834; Wed, 13 May 1998 14:39:05 -0400 (EDT) Received: from krusty (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by krusty.mint-tech.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id OAA19177; Wed, 13 May 1998 14:39:23 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <199805131839.OAA19177@krusty.mint-tech.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0.2 2/24/98 To: majordomo-users@greatcircle.com (MajorDomo Users) cc: jjr@krusty.mint-tech.com Subject: Spam that can bypass MajorDomo? Reply-to: Jim_Reisert@mint-tech.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Wed, 13 May 1998 14:39:23 -0400 From: Jim Reisert Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk This is the first I've heard of it. Anyone know any details? Thanks - Jim >From: n1ist@netcom.com >To: barc_lists@netcom.com >Subject: SPAM sent to BARC mailing lists >Date: Tue, 12 May 1998 08:05:45 -0700 (PDT) >Message-ID: <199805121505.IAA08136@majordomo.netcom.com> > >Message from n1ist@netcom.com, maintainer, BARC lists. > >As you all know, we had a bit of spam go out over the lists last night. >Recently, one of the developers of spamming software discovered a bug >in Majordomo (the program that manages the mailing list) that allows >junk mail to go out regardless of restrictions placed on the list. > >I have these comments about this incident: > >- No, I did not send the spam. Because of the method used to inject the > junk, it appears to have come from the list owner. Rest assured, I am > very anti-spam. There is no need to flame me about it. > >- I am subscribed to all of my lists. Yes, I did see it, and no, you don't > need to forward me a copy with "did you see this" or "what is this" > prepended. > >- I already have enough copies of vmunix and /usr/dict/words. Mailbombing > me will only get you in trouble with your own system administrators. > >- It is very difficult to get Netcom to upgrade software. Even if this bug > is fixed in newer versions of Majordomo, we are stuck with this one. I > am trying to get Majordomo up on barc.eli.com, but between moving, getting > married, and trying to find someone else to be president of BARC, I am > a bit short on free time :-) > >- This problem has already ruined newsline-list. I now have to manually > push thru every copy of Newsline, and must do it at night (so I don't > overload the 56K pipe of the guys donating network space to us) > >- Right now, I will treat this incident as a one-time event. I will look > into how I can secure things better, but with Netcom's past history, I'm > not holding my breath. > >- If this spamming continues, I will just shut down the lists. I do not > have the time or patience to fight this battle. It is a shame to see > such useful services destroyed by the action of a few idiots, but > that seems to be the way the internet is going. > >- I am sending this message to all the affected lists. If you are subscribed > to more than one, you will get multiple copies. Sorry. > >73, >/mike -- Jim Reisert Voice: 978.663.0225 x123 Mint Technology Fax: 978.663.2070 6 Fortune Drive Email: jim_reisert@mint-tech.com Billerica, MA 01821 WWW: http://www.mint-tech.com From majordomo-users-owner Wed May 13 14:31:50 1998 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-970926-1) id MAA10901; Wed, 13 May 1998 12:12:49 -0700 (PDT) Received: from dpi.state.nc.us (pedpims.dpi.state.nc.us [149.168.35.31]) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-980202-1) with SMTP id MAA10894 for ; Wed, 13 May 1998 12:12:16 -0700 (PDT) Received: from DPIMAIL-Message_Server by dpi.state.nc.us with Novell_GroupWise; Wed, 13 May 1998 15:13:43 -0400 Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise 4.1 Date: Wed, 13 May 1998 15:13:06 -0400 From: David Bank To: majordomo-users@GreatCircle.COM Subject: Re: Problem with v1.9.4 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Disposition: inline Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk Here are the permissions on the files: -rw-rw---- 1 majordom listown 5065 May 11 08:54 toy -rw-rw---- 1 majordom listown 16410 Feb 12 17:45 toy.config -rw-rw---- 1 majordom listown 4223 Feb 7 10:03 toy.info -rw-rw---- 1 majordom listown 0 May 3 11:28 toy.new 'majordom' is the UID under which Majordomo runs. 'listown' is the GID for all Mailing List Owners (and majordom is in the Group). David Bank, Senior Network Engineer Public Schools of North Carolina, Department of Public Instruction Information Technology Services, Networking Technologies Division Network Support Services Section Voice: (919)715-2138 FAX: (919)715-2248 SMTP E-Mail: dbank@dpi.state.nc.us Attachments: MIME or UUENCODE, no HTML please >>> 05/12/98 06:29PM >>> what are the permissions and owner on /etc/lists/toy.new ? dave_thomson@cantor.com ______________________________ Reply Separator _________________________________ Subject: Problem with v1.9.4 Author: David Bank at Internet Date: 5/12/98 12:44 PM Hello the List. I'm running Majordomo v1.9.4 on a Sparc20 with Solaris v2.6 and Sendmail v8.6.8. I've been getting errors like this: --- Cut here --- MAJORDOMO ABORT (mj_majordomo)!! chmod(33200, "/etc/lists/toy.new"): Not owner --- Cut here --- I've checked majordomo, resend and wrapper for permissions. They look like this: -rwxr-xr-x 1 majordom listown 29516 Feb 6 21:15 resend* -rwsr-xr-x 1 root listown 8604 Feb 6 21:16 wrapper* -rwxr-xr-x 1 majordom listown 64247 Feb 6 21:15 majordomo* When I run the config-test script, it reports everything is OK and sez Majordomo should run fine. What am I doing wrong? David Bank, Senior Network Engineer Public Schools of North Carolina, Department of Public Instruction Information and Technology Services, Networking Technologies Division Network Support Services Section Voice: 919-715-2138 Fax: 919-715-2248 SMTP E-Mail: dbank@dpi.state.nc.us Attachments: MIME or UUENCODE, no HTML please From majordomo-users-owner Wed May 13 15:40:14 1998 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-970926-1) id PAA13262; Wed, 13 May 1998 15:23:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nanguo.chalmers.com.au (gateway.chalmers.com.au [203.1.96.1]) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-980202-1) with ESMTP id PAA13252 for ; Wed, 13 May 1998 15:23:15 -0700 (PDT) Received: from chalmers.com.au (carbon.chalmers.com.au [203.1.96.26]) by nanguo.chalmers.com.au (8.8.8/8.8.7) with ESMTP id IAA05670; Thu, 14 May 1998 08:24:44 +1000 (EST) Message-ID: <355A1F58.54EDE2DC@chalmers.com.au> Date: Thu, 14 May 1998 08:31:52 +1000 From: Robert Chalmers Reply-To: robert@chalmers.com.au Organization: chalmers.com.au X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Chris Baker CC: Majordomo Mail List Subject: Re: Mail2News References: <3559D8F5.5F579CD8@interlink-inc.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk Hi, yes, I got it working after some playing about. You need to put the two files into a directory like /usr/local/bin, and make sure they are executable. You then put an alias into your /etc/aliases file (If you are using sendmail) like this mail2news: "|/usr/local/bin/drobot -dir /var/spool/mailnews -groups aus.ads.commercial" Naturally you need the directory /var/spool/mailnews with appropriate perms. Its only a spool directory. As far as I can figure, it only allows one newsgroup per alias. Not bad though, otherwise you get crossposting I guess. NOta good thing sometimes. Anyway, put in your alias. do a "newaliases", then send your article to To: mail2news Or whatever your called your alias. cheers Robert Chris Baker wrote: > > I have dowloaded the files needed to allow posting to newgroups. Is > anyone firmiliar with how to set it up. I don't quite understand what it > is saying, it pver my head. So if someone has experience with this > please let me know. > -- > Thanks for your time, > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > Chris Baker > Inter*Link Technology Solutions, Inc. > Post Office Box 291241 > Dept. SoFlo > Daytona Beach, Florida 32129-1241 > Office 904.428.8167 > Toll Free: 1-888-316-4401 > *********COMING SOON***************** > **Join our HOT BLAST maillist to get > **first look into our openings before > **we turn them lose to the public. > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ -- Support Whirled Peas. http://www.chalmers.com.au robert@chalmers.com.au China House - Bookshop From majordomo-users-owner Wed May 13 16:38:47 1998 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-970926-1) id QAA14578; Wed, 13 May 1998 16:31:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ayla.idyllmtn.com (ayla.idyllmtn.com [206.16.238.1]) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-980202-1) with ESMTP id QAA14571 for ; Wed, 13 May 1998 16:31:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: from grev.idyllmtn.com ([134.173.9.242]) by ayla.idyllmtn.com (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id QAA06691; Wed, 13 May 1998 16:32:59 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.19980513163809.00ba4530@mail.idyllmtn.com> X-Sender: kynn-mlists@mail.idyllmtn.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.5 (32) Date: Wed, 13 May 1998 16:38:09 -0700 To: Jim_Reisert@mint-tech.com From: Kynn Bartlett Subject: Re: Spam that can bypass MajorDomo? Cc: majordomo-users@GreatCircle.COM (MajorDomo Users), jjr@krusty.mint-tech.com In-Reply-To: <199805131839.OAA19177@krusty.mint-tech.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk One word: FAQ At 02:39 p.m. 05/13/98 -0400, Jim Reisert wrote: >This is the first I've heard of it. Anyone know any details? > >Thanks - Jim > >>From: n1ist@netcom.com >>To: barc_lists@netcom.com >>Subject: SPAM sent to BARC mailing lists >>Date: Tue, 12 May 1998 08:05:45 -0700 (PDT) >>Message-ID: <199805121505.IAA08136@majordomo.netcom.com> >> >>Message from n1ist@netcom.com, maintainer, BARC lists. >> >>As you all know, we had a bit of spam go out over the lists last night. >>Recently, one of the developers of spamming software discovered a bug >>in Majordomo (the program that manages the mailing list) that allows >>junk mail to go out regardless of restrictions placed on the list. >> >>I have these comments about this incident: >> >>- No, I did not send the spam. Because of the method used to inject the >> junk, it appears to have come from the list owner. Rest assured, I am >> very anti-spam. There is no need to flame me about it. >> >>- I am subscribed to all of my lists. Yes, I did see it, and no, you don't >> need to forward me a copy with "did you see this" or "what is this" >> prepended. >> >>- I already have enough copies of vmunix and /usr/dict/words. Mailbombing >> me will only get you in trouble with your own system administrators. >> >>- It is very difficult to get Netcom to upgrade software. Even if this bug >> is fixed in newer versions of Majordomo, we are stuck with this one. I >> am trying to get Majordomo up on barc.eli.com, but between moving, getting >> married, and trying to find someone else to be president of BARC, I am >> a bit short on free time :-) >> >>- This problem has already ruined newsline-list. I now have to manually >> push thru every copy of Newsline, and must do it at night (so I don't >> overload the 56K pipe of the guys donating network space to us) >> >>- Right now, I will treat this incident as a one-time event. I will look >> into how I can secure things better, but with Netcom's past history, I'm >> not holding my breath. >> >>- If this spamming continues, I will just shut down the lists. I do not >> have the time or patience to fight this battle. It is a shame to see >> such useful services destroyed by the action of a few idiots, but >> that seems to be the way the internet is going. >> >>- I am sending this message to all the affected lists. If you are subscribed >> to more than one, you will get multiple copies. Sorry. >> >>73, >>/mike > >-- >Jim Reisert Voice: 978.663.0225 x123 >Mint Technology Fax: 978.663.2070 >6 Fortune Drive Email: jim_reisert@mint-tech.com >Billerica, MA 01821 WWW: http://www.mint-tech.com > > > > -- __ __ _ _ _ Mailing List Services | \/ | | (_)___| |_ ___ for the Internet Community | |\/| | | | / __| __/ __| http://www.mlists.com/ | | | | |___| \__ \ |_\__ \ (Free list hosting available!) |_| |_|_____|_|___/\__|___/ kynn@mlists.com From majordomo-users-owner Wed May 13 16:55:24 1998 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-970926-1) id QAA14842; Wed, 13 May 1998 16:48:43 -0700 (PDT) Received: from boxoffice.rit.com ([207.178.21.75]) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-980202-1) with ESMTP id QAA14835 for ; Wed, 13 May 1998 16:48:36 -0700 (PDT) Received: from deux.corbis.com (host185.corbis.com [205.142.244.185]) by boxoffice.rit.com (8.8.7/8.6.9) with SMTP id QAA09100; Wed, 13 May 1998 16:44:50 -0700 (PDT) Date: Wed, 13 May 1998 16:44:50 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199805132344.QAA09100@boxoffice.rit.com> To: , From: Geoff Reed Subject: Re: Spam that can bypass MajorDomo? In-Reply-To: <199805131839.OAA19177@krusty.mint-tech.com> References: <199805131839.OAA19177@krusty.mint-tech.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Becky! ver 1.21 Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk I would assume that he's referring to sending the message to listname-outging@ host.domain .. like majordomo-users-outgoing@greatcircle.com and that bypasses any and all checks for taboo headers and authority to post to lists. -- Begin quoted message--- This is the first I've heard of it. Anyone know any details? Thanks - Jim From majordomo-users-owner Wed May 13 23:38:36 1998 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-970926-1) id XAA19516; Wed, 13 May 1998 23:38:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: from hotmail.com (f12.hotmail.com [207.82.250.23]) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-980202-1) with SMTP id XAA19509 for ; Wed, 13 May 1998 23:37:55 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 27488 invoked by uid 0); 14 May 1998 06:40:19 -0000 Message-ID: <19980514064019.27487.qmail@hotmail.com> Received: from 203.130.2.135 by www.hotmail.com with HTTP; Wed, 13 May 1998 23:40:16 PDT X-Originating-IP: [203.130.2.135] From: "Tee Emm" To: linux-admin@vger.rutgers.edu Cc: majordomo-users@greatcircle.com Subject: Regex Question Content-Type: text/plain Date: Wed, 13 May 1998 23:40:16 PDT Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk I need to define a 'taboo body' regex in my majordomo (1.94.3) to block any mail containing the word (say) blue in its body. What would be the regex for this? Will /*blue*/ work? Thanks and best regards -- Tee Emm DISCLAIMER: Opinions expressed here are not necessarily congruent with reality. ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com From majordomo-users-owner Thu May 14 01:38:36 1998 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-970926-1) id BAA21819; Thu, 14 May 1998 01:29:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: from stingray.ivision.co.uk (stingray.ivision.co.uk [195.50.91.40]) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-980202-1) with SMTP id BAA21812 for ; Thu, 14 May 1998 01:29:04 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pretender.ivision.co.uk [195.50.91.43] by stingray.ivision.co.uk with smtp (Exim 1.62 #2) id 0yZtQ6-0000sD-00; Thu, 14 May 1998 09:31:19 +0100 Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.19980514093015.009f2a20@stingray.ivision.co.uk> X-Sender: manarpop@stingray.ivision.co.uk X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.5 (32) Date: Thu, 14 May 1998 09:30:15 +0100 To: Geoff Reed From: Manar Hussain Subject: Re: Spam that can bypass MajorDomo? Cc: , In-Reply-To: <199805132344.QAA09100@boxoffice.rit.com> References: <199805131839.OAA19177@krusty.mint-tech.com> <199805131839.OAA19177@krusty.mint-tech.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk At 16:44 13/05/98 -0700, Geoff Reed wrote: >I would assume that he's referring to sending the message to listname-outging@ >host.domain .. like majordomo-users-outgoing@greatcircle.com and that >bypasses any and all checks for taboo headers and authority to post to >lists. It's also worth adding that with sendmail the easiest way to improve this is to obfuscate the -outgoign address, i.e. search through the aliases file and swap all "-outgoing" occurences with some random string (the same one! - or if you know what you're doing the in pairs of the same one). Manar From majordomo-users-owner Thu May 14 07:54:53 1998 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-970926-1) id HAA27938; Thu, 14 May 1998 07:48:53 -0700 (PDT) Received: from neptune.pegasus.cranfield.ac.uk (neptune.pegasus.cranfield.ac.uk [138.250.1.185]) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-980202-1) with SMTP id HAA27930 for ; Thu, 14 May 1998 07:48:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nassau.pegasus.cranfield.ac.uk [138.250.1.183] by neptune.pegasus.cranfield.ac.uk with smtp (Exim 1.82 #1) id 0yZzKd-0002PI-00; Thu, 14 May 1998 15:50:03 +0100 Date: Thu, 14 May 1998 15:50:00 +0100 (BST) From: Jeffrey Goldberg X-Sender: cc047@nassau.pegasus.cranfield.ac.uk Reply-To: Jeffrey Goldberg To: Tee Emm cc: linux-admin@vger.rutgers.edu, majordomo-users@GreatCircle.COM Subject: Re: Regex Question In-Reply-To: <19980514064019.27487.qmail@hotmail.com> Message-ID: Organization: Cranfield University Computer Centre MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk There is some information on regexes in the information for list owners doc that comes with majordomo. On Wed, 13 May 1998, Tee Emm wrote: > I need to define a 'taboo body' regex in my majordomo (1.94.3) to block > any mail containing the word (say) blue in its body. What would be the > regex for this? > > Will > > /*blue*/ > > work? Not really. /\bblue\b/i is probably your best bet. \b matches a word boundry, the i suffix indicates case insenstive match. -j -- Jeffrey Goldberg +44 (0)1234 750 111 x 2826 Cranfield Computer Centre FAX 751 814 J.Goldberg@Cranfield.ac.uk http://WWW.Cranfield.ac.uk/public/cc/cc047/ Relativism is the triumph of authority over truth, convention over justice. From majordomo-users-owner Thu May 14 08:08:36 1998 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-970926-1) id IAA28275; Thu, 14 May 1998 08:06:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: from motgate.mot.com (motgate.mot.com [129.188.136.100]) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-980202-1) with ESMTP id IAA28259 for ; Thu, 14 May 1998 08:06:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pobox.mot.com (pobox.mot.com [129.188.137.100]) by motgate.mot.com (8.8.5/8.6.10/MOT-3.8) with ESMTP id KAA12674 for ; Thu, 14 May 1998 10:08:03 -0500 (CDT) Comments: ( Received on motgate.mot.com from client pobox.mot.com, sender doerbeck@dma.isg.mot.com ) Received: from prospero.dma.isg.mot.com (prospero.dma.isg.mot.com [150.20.1.20]) by pobox.mot.com (8.8.5/8.6.10/MOT-3.8) with ESMTP id KAA02016 for ; Thu, 14 May 1998 10:08:02 -0500 (CDT) Received: from dma.isg.mot.com (dunsel.dma.isg.mot.com [150.21.3.18]) by prospero.dma.isg.mot.com (8.7.5/8.6.12) with ESMTP id LAA29792 for ; Thu, 14 May 1998 11:08:02 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <199805141508.LAA29792@prospero.dma.isg.mot.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 1.6.9 8/22/96 To: majordomo-users@GreatCircle.COM Subject: shlock list locking questions. Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Thu, 14 May 1998 11:08:01 -0400 From: Christoph Doerbeck Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk I'm writing a perl script to concatinate various smaller lists into a 'global' list. As I would like to following majordomo conventions, I want to properly lock lists while the process running. Will utilizing shlock.pl on the list be sufficient? Does majordomo even bother locking the subscription list during updates? I made a superficial scan at majordomo and found only shlock.pl being utilized during config file updates. Any comments are welcome. - Christoph From majordomo-users-owner Thu May 14 08:38:36 1998 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-970926-1) id IAA28588; Thu, 14 May 1998 08:30:36 -0700 (PDT) Received: from server.sensei.co.uk (server.sensei.co.uk [193.132.124.5]) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-980202-1) with ESMTP id IAA28581 for ; Thu, 14 May 1998 08:30:26 -0700 (PDT) Received: from cerise.sensei.co.uk (glynn@dialin.sensei.co.uk [193.132.124.190]) by server.sensei.co.uk (8.8.5/8.8.2) with ESMTP id QAA04932; Thu, 14 May 1998 16:32:07 +0100 Received: (from glynn@localhost) by cerise.sensei.co.uk (8.9.0.Beta3/8.8.2) id QAA00692; Thu, 14 May 1998 16:24:33 +0100 From: Glynn Clements MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <13659.3249.28357.453961@cerise.sensei.co.uk> Date: Thu, 14 May 1998 16:24:33 +0100 (BST) To: "Tee Emm" Cc: linux-admin@vger.rutgers.edu, majordomo-users@greatcircle.com Subject: Re: Regex Question In-Reply-To: <19980514064019.27487.qmail@hotmail.com> References: <19980514064019.27487.qmail@hotmail.com> X-Mailer: VM 6.47 under 21.0 "Russian White" XEmacs Lucid (beta39) Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk Tee Emm wrote: > I need to define a 'taboo body' regex in my majordomo (1.94.3) to block > any mail containing the word (say) blue in its body. What would be the > regex for this? > > Will > > /*blue*/ > > work? It may depend upon the regex implementation that majordomo uses, but in general, you can match a word using \. -- Glynn Clements From majordomo-users-owner Thu May 14 10:23:42 1998 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-970926-1) id KAA29985; Thu, 14 May 1998 10:16:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: from sina.hpc.uh.edu (Sina.HPC.UH.EDU [129.7.3.5]) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-980202-1) with ESMTP id KAA29974 for ; Thu, 14 May 1998 10:16:19 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from tibbs@localhost) by sina.hpc.uh.edu (8.7.3/8.7.3) id MAA00971; Thu, 14 May 1998 12:18:44 -0500 (CDT) To: Christoph Doerbeck Cc: majordomo-users@GreatCircle.COM Subject: Re: shlock list locking questions. References: <199805141508.LAA29792@prospero.dma.isg.mot.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 (generated by tm-edit 7.100) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII From: Jason L Tibbitts III Date: 14 May 1998 12:18:43 -0500 In-Reply-To: Christoph Doerbeck's message of "Thu, 14 May 1998 11:08:01 -0400" Message-ID: Lines: 18 X-Mailer: Gnus v5.6.9/Emacs 19.34 Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk >>>>> "CD" == Christoph Doerbeck writes: CD> Will utilizing shlock.pl on the list be sufficient? Yes. Just require shlock.pl and call lopen. CD> Does majordomo even bother locking the zubscription list during CD> updates? Of course it does. Lists would be corrupted all over the place if it didn't. CD> I made a superficial scan at majordomo and found only shlock.pl being CD> utilized during config file updates. You may have missed the calls to lopen and friends every time one of the zubscriber files is opened, and the commands about locking the list files. - J< From majordomo-users-owner Thu May 14 10:53:36 1998 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-970926-1) id KAA00556; Thu, 14 May 1998 10:51:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: from atle.abc.se (atle.abc.se [192.36.170.16]) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-980202-1) with ESMTP id KAA00549 for ; Thu, 14 May 1998 10:50:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (m8698@localhost) by atle.abc.se (8.8.8+Sun/8.8.8) with SMTP id TAA07588; Thu, 14 May 1998 19:53:11 +0200 (MET DST) X-Authentication-Warning: atle.abc.se: m8698 owned process doing -bs Date: Thu, 14 May 1998 18:53:11 +0100 (MET) From: Mats Dufberg X-Sender: m8698@atle To: Tee Emm cc: linux-admin@vger.rutgers.edu, majordomo-users@GreatCircle.COM Subject: Re: Regex Question In-Reply-To: <19980514064019.27487.qmail@hotmail.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk On Wed, 13 May 1998, Tee Emm wrote: > I need to define a 'taboo body' regex in my majordomo (1.94.3) to block > any mail containing the word (say) blue in its body. What would be the > regex for this? > > Will > > /*blue*/ > > work? /blue/ is what you want. ----------------------------------------------------------------- Mats Dufberg Mats.Dufberg@abc.se From majordomo-users-owner Thu May 14 12:10:11 1998 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-970926-1) id MAA01666; Thu, 14 May 1998 12:03:16 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail.okbu.edu ([164.58.90.70]) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-980202-1) with SMTP id MAA01659 for ; Thu, 14 May 1998 12:03:10 -0700 (PDT) Received: from Computer_Center-Message_Server by mail.okbu.edu with Novell_GroupWise; Thu, 14 May 1998 14:08:09 -0500 Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise 5.2 Date: Thu, 14 May 1998 14:08:07 -0500 From: "Robby rufener" To: majordomo-users@greatcircle.com Subject: Majordomo.aliases unsafe map file? Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk I am a newbie to both Linux and to Majordomo. I have encountered the = following problem, and let me just say thanks in advance for any help = :=5E) When typing newaliases for Sendmail (version 8.8.7) I get the following = error messages: Cannot open hash database /etc/mail/deny: Invalid argument /etc/aliases: 14 aliases, longest 10 bytes, 152 bytes total hash map =22Alias1=22: unsafe map file /usr/majordomo/majordomo.aliases: = Permission=20 denied WARNING: cannot open alias database /usr/majordomo/majordomo.aliases Cannot create database for alias file /usr/majordomo/majordomo.aliases: = Operatio n not supported by device I added the following line to /etc/sendmail.cf: OA/usr/majordomo/majordomo.aliases The following are my rights for Majordomo.aliases: -rw-rw-r-- 1 root root 821 May 7 14:18 majordomo.a= liases Thanks, Robby Rufener Network / Microcomputer Tech Oklahoma Baptist University 878-2386 From majordomo-users-owner Thu May 14 12:39:43 1998 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-970926-1) id MAA02143; Thu, 14 May 1998 12:26:30 -0700 (PDT) Received: from atle.abc.se (atle.abc.se [192.36.170.16]) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-980202-1) with ESMTP id MAA02136 for ; Thu, 14 May 1998 12:26:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (m8698@localhost) by atle.abc.se (8.8.8+Sun/8.8.8) with SMTP id VAA08857; Thu, 14 May 1998 21:28:41 +0200 (MET DST) X-Authentication-Warning: atle.abc.se: m8698 owned process doing -bs Date: Thu, 14 May 1998 20:28:40 +0100 (MET) From: Mats Dufberg X-Sender: m8698@atle To: Werner Cyrmon cc: major Subject: Re: Newbie In-Reply-To: <355938E6.D491CF92@htlwrn.ac.at> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk On Wed, 13 May 1998, Werner Cyrmon wrote: > Why is there no user majordomo: the alias majordomo: > "|/majordomo/wrapper majordomo" is in aliases.majordomo in the right > place, an I ran newaliases (there are 2 warnings: WARNING majordomo is a > writeble dir). What are the necc. permissions for aliases.majordomo? Put all aliases-files in /etc. They should be owned by root, and writable by owner only. ----------------------------------------------------------------- Mats Dufberg Mats.Dufberg@abc.se From majordomo-users-owner Thu May 14 12:53:14 1998 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-970926-1) id MAA02153; Thu, 14 May 1998 12:27:40 -0700 (PDT) Received: from atle.abc.se (atle.abc.se [192.36.170.16]) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-980202-1) with ESMTP id MAA02146 for ; Thu, 14 May 1998 12:27:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (m8698@localhost) by atle.abc.se (8.8.8+Sun/8.8.8) with SMTP id VAA08913; Thu, 14 May 1998 21:29:58 +0200 (MET DST) X-Authentication-Warning: atle.abc.se: m8698 owned process doing -bs Date: Thu, 14 May 1998 20:29:58 +0100 (MET) From: Mats Dufberg X-Sender: m8698@atle To: Robby rufener cc: majordomo-users@GreatCircle.COM Subject: Re: Majordomo.aliases unsafe map file? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk On Thu, 14 May 1998, Robby rufener wrote: > Cannot open hash database /etc/mail/deny: Invalid argument /etc/aliases: > 14 aliases, longest 10 bytes, 152 bytes total hash map "Alias1": unsafe > map file /usr/majordomo/majordomo.aliases: Permission denied WARNING: > cannot open alias database /usr/majordomo/majordomo.aliases Cannot > create database for alias file /usr/majordomo/majordomo.aliases: Put all aliases-files in /etc. They should be owned by root, and writable by owner only. ----------------------------------------------------------------- Mats Dufberg Mats.Dufberg@abc.se From majordomo-users-owner Thu May 14 14:38:36 1998 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-970926-1) id OAA04283; Thu, 14 May 1998 14:35:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: from motgate.mot.com (motgate.mot.com [129.188.136.100]) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-980202-1) with ESMTP id OAA04274 for ; Thu, 14 May 1998 14:35:17 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pobox.mot.com (pobox.mot.com [129.188.137.100]) by motgate.mot.com (8.8.5/8.6.10/MOT-3.8) with ESMTP id QAA22461 for ; Thu, 14 May 1998 16:37:34 -0500 (CDT) Comments: ( Received on motgate.mot.com from client pobox.mot.com, sender doerbeck@dma.isg.mot.com ) Received: from prospero.dma.isg.mot.com (prospero.dma.isg.mot.com [150.20.1.20]) by pobox.mot.com (8.8.5/8.6.10/MOT-3.8) with ESMTP id QAA10750 for ; Thu, 14 May 1998 16:37:31 -0500 (CDT) Received: from dma.isg.mot.com (dunsel.dma.isg.mot.com [150.21.3.18]) by prospero.dma.isg.mot.com (8.7.5/8.6.12) with ESMTP id RAA23204 for ; Thu, 14 May 1998 17:37:30 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <199805142137.RAA23204@prospero.dma.isg.mot.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 1.6.9 8/22/96 To: majordomo-users@GreatCircle.COM Subject: comments on a list concatinator script Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Thu, 14 May 1998 17:37:29 -0400 From: Christoph Doerbeck Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk Havin gotten good reponses on shlock.pl, here is my stab at a list contatination script which should obide by majordomo's file locking rules. If you have time, please look it over. I've only played with it for 15 minutes since finishing it, and would appreciate any obvious mistakes. The goal of this script, is to place it in majordomo's cron, and concatinate several smaller lists (regional list) into a global list. The intention is to config the global list as closed, moderated, etc... Anyway, basic syntax is: list-cat -h for help list-cat -D list1 list2 list3 superlist ################################### CUT HERE ################################# #!/usr/bin/perl ##BEGIN-HELP ############################################################################### # ##----------------------------------------------------------------------------- - ## $Header$ ##----------------------------------------------------------------------------- - ## ## Synopsis: ## ## Concatinate multiple lists to a super-list. ## ## Usage: ## ## list-cat options listname listname ... superlist ## ## -d debug messages displayed ## -D lots of debugging messages ## -h this help page ## ## *NOTE* this script is intended to run as the user 'majordom' ## ############################################################################### # ##END-HELP ############################################################################### # ############################################################################### # if (! defined $ENV{"HOME"}){ logger("ERR: HOME environment variable not set"); return(1); } $homedir=$ENV{"HOME"}; unshift(@INC, $homedir); require "shlock.pl"; require "getopts.pl"; ## ## I like to explicitly declare my package (no assumptions) ## package main; ## ## Global variables ## # Debug levels (using -d and -D sets 50 and 100 repectively) # 10 # 20 # 30 # 40 # 50 procedure entering/exiting messages # 60 block messages (loops, etc) # 70 # 80 # 90 petty overkill $DEBUG_LEVEL = 0; # The non-fatal error count $NFEC = 0; # Signals to trap $SIG{INT} = \&terminate; # $SIG{HUP} = 'ignore'; # $SIG{QUIT} = 'ignore'; # $SIG{ABRT} = 'ignore'; # $SIG{KILL} = 'ignore'; # $SIG{ALRM} = 'ignore'; # $SIG{TERM} = 'ignore'; # $SIG{USR1} = 'ignore'; # $SIG{USR2} = 'ignore'; ## ## I like my code to follow a C-like structure ## exit(&main); ##------------------------------------------------------------------## ## function ........... main() ## synopsis ........... This is the beginning ## calling routines ... (none) ##------------------------------------------------------------------## sub main() { local $err; $err = 0; Getopts("bDdhry"); if ( defined $opt_d ) { $DEBUG_LEVEL=50; } if ( defined $opt_D ) { $DEBUG_LEVEL=100; $shlock_debug=1; } logger ("entering",50); if ( defined $opt_h ) { logger ("help requested",60); ShowUsage(); return($err); } $err = Engage(); if ( $NFEC > 0 ) { logger("$NFEC non-fatal errors occured during processing"); } logger ("exiting ($err)",50); return($err); } ##------------------------------------------------------------------## ## function ........... Engage() ## synopsis ........... ## calling routines ... main() ##------------------------------------------------------------------## sub Engage { local $i,$list,$err=0,LIST; logger ("enter",50); ## ## Check my user id ## if ( (getpwuid($>))[0] ne "majordom") { logger("ERR: you must be user 'majordom' to run this script"); return(1); } ## ## Load Majordomo's config info ## $cf = $homedir."/majordomo.cf"; if (! -r $cf) { logger("ERR: can't read $cf"); return(1); } logger("loading $cf",50); require "$cf"; ## ## Process command line parameters ## $newlist = $ARGV[$#ARGV]; foreach $i (@ARGV) { @lists = (@lists,"$listdir/$i") if ($i ne $newlist); } $listtemp = "$TMPDIR/$newlist.tmp"; $newlist = "$listdir/$newlist"; ## ## Verify parameters ## logger("$newlist (is a union of):",50); foreach $i (@lists) { logger (" $i",50); if (! -r "$i") { logger ("ERR: cannot read $i"); return(1); } } ## ## Create the new super list in a temp ## if (lopen(TMPLIST,"+>","$listtemp")) { logger("locked $listtemp",50); foreach $i (@lists) { if (lopen(LIST,"<","$i")) { logger("locked $i",50); while ($line = ) { chomp($line); if (defined $Used{$line}) { logger ("- $line",60); next; } $Used{$line} = 1; logger("+ $line",60); print TMPLIST "$line\n"; } lclose(LIST); logger("unlocked $i",50); } } ## Now lock the real list and copy it over if (lopen(NEWLIST,"+>","$newlist")) { logger("locked $newlist",50); ## Move the file pointer back to the beginning seek(TMPLIST,0,0); while () { print NEWLIST; } lclose(NEWLIST); logger("unlocked $newlist",50); } lclose(TMPLIST); logger("unlocked $listtemp",50); } logger ("exit",50); return(0); } ##------------------------------------------------------------------## ## function ........... ShowUsage() ## synopsis ........... ## calling routines ... main() ##------------------------------------------------------------------## sub ShowUsage { logger ("entering",50); open(IN,"<$0"); $mode=0; READER: while () { if ($mode == 0 && /^##BEGIN-HELP.*/) { ++$mode; } elsif ($mode != 0) { if (/^##END-HELP.*/) {last READER;} s/^#+ ?//; printf $_; } } close(IN); logger ("exit",50); } ##------------------------------------------------------------------## ## function ........... logger() ## synopsis ........... echos a log message to stderr. if logger ## is called without a level parameter, the ## message will be echoed. ## calling routines ... main() ##------------------------------------------------------------------## sub logger { local($msg,$level) = @_; ($sub) = (caller(1))[3]; if ($DEBUG_LEVEL >= $level) { printf(STDERR "%2s %-25s %s\n",$level,$sub,$msg); print("$msg\n") if (!$level); } } ##------------------------------------------------------------------## ## function ........... terminate() ## synopsis ........... attempt a clean exit after a signal to die ## calling routines ... SIG{INT} ##------------------------------------------------------------------## sub terminate() { print "Weow - I've been killed by a signal\n"; die; } From majordomo-users-owner Thu May 14 16:13:38 1998 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-970926-1) id QAA06244; Thu, 14 May 1998 16:06:36 -0700 (PDT) Received: (mcb@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-980202-1) id QAA06234 for majordomo-users@greatcircle.com; Thu, 14 May 1998 16:06:29 -0700 (PDT) Received: from atle.abc.se (atle.abc.se [192.36.170.16]) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-980202-1) with ESMTP id LAA15752 for ; Tue, 12 May 1998 11:40:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (m8698@localhost) by atle.abc.se (8.8.8+Sun/8.8.8) with SMTP id UAA08689; Tue, 12 May 1998 20:41:56 +0200 (MET DST) X-Authentication-Warning: atle.abc.se: m8698 owned process doing -bs Date: Tue, 12 May 1998 19:41:56 +0100 (MET) From: Mats Dufberg X-Sender: m8698@atle To: von Zweigbergk Hanna L-OX cc: majordomo-users@GreatCircle.COM Subject: Re: cant approve closed list In-Reply-To: <199805121245.OAA04659@remote.al.edt.ericsson.se> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk On Tue, 12 May 1998, von Zweigbergk Hanna L-OX wrote: > When I then send that line to majordomo I get the following error message: > >>>> approve secretaries.pass subsribe secretaries edthavz@al.edt.ericsson.se ^^^^^^^^ subscribe ----------------------------------------------------------------- Mats Dufberg Mats.Dufberg@abc.se From majordomo-users-owner Thu May 14 16:21:22 1998 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-970926-1) id QAA06065; Thu, 14 May 1998 16:04:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: (mcb@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-980202-1) id QAA06055 for majordomo-users@greatcircle.com; Thu, 14 May 1998 16:04:29 -0700 (PDT) Received: from oaksnet.com (oaksnet.com [192.41.56.48]) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-980202-1) with ESMTP id OAA10850 for ; Sat, 9 May 1998 14:42:23 -0700 (PDT) Received: from oaksnet (usr2-12.pacificnet.net [207.171.38.77]) by oaksnet.com (8.8.5) id OAA26203; Sat, 9 May 1998 14:43:46 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.19980509144319.0082b2c0@pop.oaksnet.com> X-Sender: philkwon@pop.oaksnet.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.5 (32) Date: Sat, 09 May 1998 14:43:19 -0700 To: majordomo-users@GreatCircle.COM From: "Phillip H. Kwon" Subject: Re: In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk At 01:41 PM 5/5/98 CST, Terry Davis wrote: >I have compiled a large number of addresses to personally subscribe >to a list. Is there a simple way to make Majordomo send the info >file for this list to these people that I have added to the list? >This is a new list and I want to send the info to all of them. I am >using version 1.94.4, Sendmail 8.8 and latest Perl. > Just upload your compiled address list, then copy the text of your info file into an email message and send it to your list for distribution. Regards, Phillip H. Kwon Attorney at Law PhilKwon@LawForum.com From majordomo-users-owner Thu May 14 16:23:41 1998 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-970926-1) id QAA06119; Thu, 14 May 1998 16:05:26 -0700 (PDT) Received: (mcb@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-980202-1) id QAA06109 for majordomo-users@greatcircle.com; Thu, 14 May 1998 16:05:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: from natacha.ambrasoft.lu (natacha.ambrasoft.lu [194.154.208.7]) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-980202-1) with ESMTP id BAA07526 for ; Mon, 11 May 1998 01:41:41 -0700 (PDT) Received: by natacha.ambrasoft.lu with Internet Mail Service (5.0.1458.49) id ; Mon, 11 May 1998 10:33:42 +0200 Message-ID: <113BA733C237D011BFA74854E82102F63320B1@natacha.ambrasoft.lu> From: CARPENTIER Michel To: "'majordomo-users@greatcircle.com'" Subject: RE: Address identification in list files Date: Mon, 11 May 1998 10:33:40 +0200 X-Priority: 3 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.0.1458.49) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk > On Tue, 5 May 1998, CARPENTIER Michel wrote: > > > I wonder if there's a way to add information to the e-mail address > in a > > list file. > > For example, the RFC says that e-mail addresses may have the format > like > > "Michel Carpentier ", but, if you try to subscribe > > this address, > > only the "mca@ambrasoft.lu" is inserted in the list file. > > In the list config, set > > strip = no > Many thanks to all for your replies... It solved my problem. I didn't re-RTFM... it's my fault.. All my appologies. --Mike, -----------------------%<---------------------------- Michel Carpentier Ambrasoft mca@ambrasoft.lu Tel : +352 403420 226 ICQ : 6898839 (http://www.icq.com/) All the 70th Academy Awards on http://www.oscar.com From majordomo-users-owner Thu May 14 16:29:52 1998 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-970926-1) id QAA06159; Thu, 14 May 1998 16:05:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: (mcb@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-980202-1) id QAA06139 for majordomo-users@greatcircle.com; Thu, 14 May 1998 16:05:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: from smultron.com (smultron.com [192.41.19.90]) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-980202-1) with ESMTP id NAA21406 for ; Mon, 11 May 1998 13:45:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: from daw (56K-174.MaxTNT1.pdq.net [209.144.226.174]) by smultron.com (8.8.5) id PAA17712; Mon, 11 May 1998 15:47:22 -0500 (CDT) Reply-To: From: "david a wahlstrom" To: Subject: Config files Date: Mon, 11 May 1998 15:43:46 -0500 Message-ID: <00e301bd7d1d$7e84d500$aee290d1@daw> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Importance: Normal Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk Good day! Thanks to those who have helped me get my digest, etc., running! Will someone tell me how the list config file and the list.digest config relate? In my situation, the list config is about 12k bytes and list.digest config file is about 16k bytes. What I am really curious about is the digest size variable which exists in both config files. The list config files includes only a variable for digest size in bytes; however, the list.digest config file includes bytes, length in lines, and days. Any clarification will be appreciated!!! And, I know there are those saying "If he can't figure that out, what is he doing running a list!" However, I've got to learn someplace!!! Prof DA Wahlström JD MS F.ASCE Originator, Swedes emailing list From majordomo-users-owner Thu May 14 16:32:17 1998 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-970926-1) id QAA06317; Thu, 14 May 1998 16:07:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: (mcb@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-980202-1) id QAA06307 for majordomo-users@greatcircle.com; Thu, 14 May 1998 16:07:55 -0700 (PDT) Received: from orion.Localaccess.com (orion.localaccess.com [206.64.48.2]) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-980202-1) with SMTP id WAA18481 for ; Wed, 13 May 1998 22:04:53 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [209.43.151.56] by orion.Localaccess.com (NTMail 3.02.13) with ESMTP id aa310596 for ; Wed, 13 May 1998 22:09:07 -0700 Message-ID: <007f01bd7ef6$01b2edc0$38972bd1@default> From: "Mark and Esmeralda Lybrand" To: Subject: Message generated after 'subscribe' or 'unsubscribe' commands Date: Wed, 13 May 1998 22:06:04 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.2106.4 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk I have multiple lists at one domain name. Subscribe and unsubscribe commands are working correctly, however there is an aesthetic problem of the "succeeded" message saying that, for example, the subscription "succeeded" to the first list. I have the following lists at the site: newsletter circular es_tourbus If I subscribe to either circular or es_tourbus the message comes back saying: Succeeded (to list newsletter) but the subscription will be correct nonetheless. Could anyone let me know what to do? Should I simply hack the majordomo source to remove the "(to list $deflist)" part? I did a search of the archives and looked throught the FAQ, but was unable to find the answer to my question. TIA, Mark From majordomo-users-owner Thu May 14 16:40:12 1998 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-970926-1) id QAA06255; Thu, 14 May 1998 16:06:43 -0700 (PDT) Received: (mcb@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-980202-1) id QAA06247 for majordomo-users@greatcircle.com; Thu, 14 May 1998 16:06:36 -0700 (PDT) Received: from janeway.tgci.com (janeway.tgci.com [205.185.169.3]) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-980202-1) with ESMTP id MAA17186 for ; Tue, 12 May 1998 12:51:19 -0700 (PDT) Received: from sativa ([205.185.169.30]) by janeway.tgci.com (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id MAA04543 for ; Tue, 12 May 1998 12:53:00 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from major@janeway.tgci.com) Message-Id: <199805121953.MAA04543@janeway.tgci.com> Comments: Authenticated sender is From: "Mary Fowler" To: majordomo-users@greatcircle.com Date: Tue, 12 May 1998 12:53:25 +0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Subject: Taboo filtering is not consistant??? Reply-to: major@tgci.com In-reply-to: <001101bd7dde$3ff8bec0$1ea9b9cd@sativa.tgci.com> X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Win32 (v2.54) Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk Greetings! I am finding that even though I have the following listed << END remove off subscribe subscribing unsubscribe removal unsubscribing email address change delete END in the taboo_headers and taboo_body in the config file, our list is still getting messages with the taboo words in the subject header and body. The following are subject headers which got to the list: {forum}forum[]remove from forum {forum}remove from forum Re: {forum}remove my name {forum}remove my name Re: {forum}Please delete my name {forum}Please delete my name Why is this? What have I done wrong? How can I make it right? Any guidance would greatly be appreciated. Be well and TYIA, :)mary From majordomo-users-owner Thu May 14 16:41:22 1998 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-970926-1) id QAA06136; Thu, 14 May 1998 16:05:37 -0700 (PDT) Received: (mcb@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-980202-1) id QAA06126 for majordomo-users@greatcircle.com; Thu, 14 May 1998 16:05:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: from leopard.ebonet.net ([194.133.121.2]) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-980202-1) with ESMTP id MAA20312 for ; Mon, 11 May 1998 12:38:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: from toyoto.ebonet.net ([194.133.121.14]) by leopard.ebonet.net (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id UAA10789 for ; Mon, 11 May 1998 20:39:36 +0100 Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.19980511204605.0083bb70@ebonet.net> X-Sender: jvd@ebonet.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.5 (32) Date: Mon, 11 May 1998 20:46:05 +0100 To: Majordomo-Users@greatcircle.com From: Jose Pereira Van-Dunem Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk Hi, Can somebody help me? I after I install majordomo I run "wrapper config-tests" as a normal user and I didn't get any error (Any Bad Thing). But when I unsubscribe a list I get the follwing (email) error message: MAJORDOMO ABORT (mj_majordomo)!! chmod(33279, "/usr/local/majordomo/lists/ngolanet.new"): Operation not permitted I run chmod 777 ngolanet.new chown majordom ngolanet.new chgrp majordom ngolanet.new But I am still getting the same error message!! Thank you very much jose jvd@ebonet.net >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>....<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<< >> Eng. Jose Pereira Van-Dunem Email: jvd@ebonet.net << >> Consultor Tecnico EBONet Cellular Ph: (244-9) 503135 << >> R. dos Enganos,Nr 1, 1o, 23 Phone: (244-2) 336533/334329<< >> Kinaxixi-Luanda-Angola Fax: (244-2) 390995 << >> http://www.ebonet.net PO Box: 3110 << >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>....<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<< From majordomo-users-owner Thu May 14 16:41:38 1998 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-970926-1) id QAA07099; Thu, 14 May 1998 16:26:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: (mcb@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-980202-1) id QAA07084 for majordomo-users@greatcircle.com; Thu, 14 May 1998 16:26:10 -0700 (PDT) Received: (mcb@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-980202-1) id QAA06710; Thu, 14 May 1998 16:17:13 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199805142317.QAA06710@honor.greatcircle.com> From: mcb@greatcircle.com (Michael C. Berch) Date: Thu, 14 May 1998 16:17:13 +0000 X-Mailer: Mail User's Shell (7.2.5 10/14/92) To: majordomo-users Subject: [ADMIN] Posting restricted on lists Cc: brent Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk By popular request, I have enabled restrict_post on the majordomo-users and majordomo-workers lists. This should further reduce the amount of spam on the list. However, if you post from an address that is not the one you are subscribed with, your messages will be delayed. I'll probably set up a "shadow" or "friends" file with approved posting addresses; when I see a legitimate posting from a member with a different posting address, I'll add it to the "friends" file, so the next time it will go right through. -- Michael C. Berch Postmaster and List Manager, Great Circle Associates mcb@greatcircle.com From majordomo-users-owner Thu May 14 16:49:16 1998 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-970926-1) id QAA06231; Thu, 14 May 1998 16:06:30 -0700 (PDT) Received: (mcb@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-980202-1) id QAA06220 for majordomo-users@greatcircle.com; Thu, 14 May 1998 16:06:22 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pegasus.host4u.net ([209.150.128.41]) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-980202-1) with ESMTP id LAA15728 for ; Tue, 12 May 1998 11:37:06 -0700 (PDT) Received: from interlink-inc.net (1Cust148.tnt18.atl2.da.uu.net [153.36.118.148]) by pegasus.host4u.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA20729 for ; Tue, 12 May 1998 13:38:50 -0500 Message-ID: <3558983A.AB26056D@interlink-inc.net> Date: Tue, 12 May 1998 14:43:06 -0400 From: Chris Baker Organization: Inter*Link Technology Solutions, Inc. X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.05 [en] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Majordomo Mail List Subject: Changing open list to auto list Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk My Host provider set up my mail list and after that they don't offer anymore help. The list was set up where I have to approve everyone as they subscribe to the list. I want to automat that, where once you subscribe you are automatically subscribed to the list. I changed the parameters on the config file (basically where it said open for subscribe and unsubscribe I changed it to auto), But now I get an error message saying the conf file has not be accpeted. Can anyone help? -- Thanks for your time, ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Chris Baker Inter*Link Technology Solutions, Inc. Post Office Box 291241 Dept. SoFlo Daytona Beach, Florida 32129-1241 Office 904.428.8167 Toll Free: 1-888-316-4401 *********COMING SOON***************** **Join our HOT BLAST maillist to get **first look into our openings before **we turn them lose to the public. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ From majordomo-users-owner Thu May 14 16:49:18 1998 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-970926-1) id QAA06176; Thu, 14 May 1998 16:05:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: (mcb@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-980202-1) id QAA06166 for majordomo-users@greatcircle.com; Thu, 14 May 1998 16:05:55 -0700 (PDT) Received: from smultron.com (smultron.com [192.41.19.90]) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-980202-1) with ESMTP id GAA07597 for ; Tue, 12 May 1998 06:23:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: from daw (56K-252.MaxTNT2.pdq.net [209.144.227.252]) by smultron.com (8.8.5) id IAA21409; Tue, 12 May 1998 08:25:01 -0500 (CDT) Reply-To: From: "david a wahlstrom" To: Subject: Configuration files Date: Tue, 12 May 1998 08:21:23 -0500 Message-ID: <000601bd7da8$dbbb39e0$fce390d1@daw> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Importance: Normal Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk I sent the following message yesterday; however, I never received "my copy;" so, I'm sending it again. Sorry for cluttering up any mailboxes. Good day! Thanks to those who have helped me get my digest, etc., running! Will someone tell me how the list config file and the list.digest config relate? In my situation, the list config is about 12k bytes and list.digest config file is about 16k bytes. What I am really curious about is the digest size variable which exists in both config files. The list config files includes only a variable for digest size in bytes; however, the list.digest config file includes bytes, length in lines, and days. Any clarification will be appreciated!!! And, I know there are those saying "If he can't figure that out, what is he doing running a list!" However, I've got to learn someplace!!! Prof DA Wahlström JD MS F.ASCE Originator, Swedes emailing list Prof DA Wahlström JD MS F.ASCE Originator, Swedes emailing list From majordomo-users-owner Thu May 14 16:49:45 1998 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-970926-1) id QAA06217; Thu, 14 May 1998 16:06:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: (mcb@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-980202-1) id QAA06207 for majordomo-users@greatcircle.com; Thu, 14 May 1998 16:06:15 -0700 (PDT) Received: from spot1.fvcc.cc.mt.us (spot1.fvcc.cc.mt.us [207.196.176.209]) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-980202-1) with ESMTP id KAA13499 for ; Tue, 12 May 1998 10:20:54 -0700 (PDT) Received: from Aerie.fvcc.cc.mt.us (aerie.fvcc.cc.mt.us [207.196.176.210]) by spot1.fvcc.cc.mt.us (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id LAA08864 for ; Tue, 12 May 1998 11:22:55 -0600 (MDT) Message-Id: <199805121722.LAA08864@spot1.fvcc.cc.mt.us> Comments: Authenticated sender is From: "Rick Owens" Organization: Flathead Valley Community College To: majordomo-users@GreatCircle.COM Date: Tue, 12 May 1998 11:22:45 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Subject: Re: making your own list from a db In-reply-to: <355862F7.4F9C0EC6@10mb.com> X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (v2.54) Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk On 12 May 98 at 10:55, Francesco Fortugno wrote: > hi there, > > I'd like to know if it's possible to create your own list created from > a database, and use it for majordomo. Once this list is created, what > steps need to be taken to result in the same created by > majordomo. Just follow the same procedures as described in NEWLIST > doc? We create campus-wide lists from a central database; the list is set with zubscribe_policy and unzubscribe_policy = closed, so Majordomo won't be editing the lists. For new lists we copy a template config file and edit the list name etc. Then 'tis a simple question of writing the addresses to the list file whenever the database changes. This doesn't give absolute safety, but it works ok for us. -------------------------------------------------------------------- Rick Owens | FVCC, Kalispell, MT, USA, Sol 3 #include "Kraft is opening a plant in Israel: Cheeses of Nazareth." -------------------------------------------------------------------- From majordomo-users-owner Thu May 14 16:53:57 1998 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-970926-1) id QAA06287; Thu, 14 May 1998 16:07:37 -0700 (PDT) Received: (mcb@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-980202-1) id QAA06277 for majordomo-users@greatcircle.com; Thu, 14 May 1998 16:07:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail.challenger.org ([207.42.121.115]) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-980202-1) with SMTP id KAA09135 for ; Wed, 13 May 1998 10:24:23 -0700 (PDT) Message-id: X-UID: 000a319c Date: Wed, 13 May 1998 13:29:56 -0400 Subject: bounced messages with attachments? To: Majordomo-Users@GreatCircle.COM From: jdonaldson@challenger.org (John P. Donaldson) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk When someone on the list tries to send an email with an attachment that brings the message over the 40k it's configured to handle, the message gets bounced. No problem, I can successfully approve the bounced message. The problem I have is when I get the bounced message, the attachment has been inserted into the body of the message as text. Is there anyway to approve the message and have the email get sent to the list members with the attachment appearing as an actual attachment rather than hexadecimal characters spit out in the body of the message? I was able to grab the attachment text from the body of the message and decode it with a Base64 decoder which gave me the real attachment. I then approved this new message with the intact attachment and it got bounced again. It seems the only way I can approve a message with an attachment over the size limit is if the attachment is encoded as text in the body of the message. I did go in and bump up the size limit and the attachments came through intact no problem. I would prefer not to have the size limit increased all the time. Is there a way for majordomo to keep the attachments intact through the bounce/approval process? Any help would be greatly appreciated. Thanks, John ================================================ John Donaldson Webmaster Challenger Center for Space Science Education www.challenger.org jdonaldson@challenger.org phone: 703 683 9740 fax: 703 683 7546 ================================================ From majordomo-users-owner Thu May 14 16:56:26 1998 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-970926-1) id QAA06096; Thu, 14 May 1998 16:05:10 -0700 (PDT) Received: (mcb@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-980202-1) id QAA06086 for majordomo-users@greatcircle.com; Thu, 14 May 1998 16:05:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: from neptune.pegasus.cranfield.ac.uk (neptune.pegasus.cranfield.ac.uk [138.250.1.185]) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-980202-1) with SMTP id BAA19048 for ; Sun, 10 May 1998 01:54:35 -0700 (PDT) Received: from annex-1-pt6.ccc.cranfield.ac.uk (arpad.thegreen.private) [138.250.1.229] (cc047) by neptune.pegasus.cranfield.ac.uk with smtp (Exim 1.82 #1) id 0yYRtP-0004fm-00; Sun, 10 May 1998 09:55:36 +0100 Date: Sun, 10 May 1998 09:54:55 +0100 (BST) From: Jeffrey Goldberg X-Sender: cc047@arpad.thegreen.private Reply-To: Jeffrey Goldberg To: Christoph Doerbeck cc: majordomo-users@GreatCircle.COM Subject: Re: Cascading lists... In-Reply-To: <199805061301.JAA06841@prospero.dma.isg.mot.com> Message-ID: Organization: Cranfield University Computer Centre MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk On Wed, 6 May 1998, Christoph Doerbeck wrote: > Well, > > example: I want to create several locational lists, which users > subscribe to. I want to then address all the people on all > lists via a super-list which contains only other lists (no individual users). > Users would not be allowed to subscribe to the all-inclusive list. Assuming stripped lists, and case insenstive localparts, I do something like the following tr '[A-Z]' '[a-z]' list1 list2 ... list3 | sort -u > superlist Something like this is run nightly from cron superlist has it's own superlist.config for which subscriptions and unsubscriptions are closed. I don't have the actual script I use at hand, but something similar to the above works well for me. > An alternative would be to create a normal mail alias which points to > the various lists, but I would not be able to moderate the "super-post". That wouldn't be good. An alternative would be to have a majordomo list with the other lists subscribed to it. so superlist would be something like list1@site list2@site etc superlist.config might have restrict_post = list1 list2 ... If that is the policy you want. And owner-superlist would have to able able to post to each of list1, etc But I do it the first way. -j -- Jeffrey Goldberg +44 (0)1234 750 111 x 2826 Cranfield Computer Centre FAX 751 814 J.Goldberg@Cranfield.ac.uk http://WWW.Cranfield.ac.uk/public/cc/cc047/ Relativism is the triumph of authority over truth, convention over justice. From majordomo-users-owner Thu May 14 16:58:17 1998 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-970926-1) id QAA06204; Thu, 14 May 1998 16:06:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: (mcb@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-980202-1) id QAA06194 for majordomo-users@greatcircle.com; Thu, 14 May 1998 16:06:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: from bc.mountain.net (BC.Mountain.Net [198.77.1.35]) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-980202-1) with ESMTP id JAA11962 for ; Tue, 12 May 1998 09:39:22 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mountain.net (tec.Mountain.Net [198.77.1.37]) by bc.mountain.net (8.8.7/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA07738; Tue, 12 May 1998 12:41:01 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <35587B20.DA51391A@mountain.net> Date: Tue, 12 May 1998 12:38:56 -0400 From: Tim Connolly Organization: Mountain.Net, Inc. X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Paul Statter , "majordomo-users@GreatCircle.COM" Subject: Re: Approving bounced messages: References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk OK, just shoot me... I guess I am used to approving subscriptions by the one-liner: approve passwd subscribe list email@... Paul Statter wrote: > On Tue, 12 May 1998, Tim Connolly wrote: > > > As stated in the FAQ section 3.10 (URL > > http://www.greatcircle.com/majordomo/majordomo-faq.html#3.10 ): > > > > on a UNIX system with Perl), you have to do it by hand. The easiest way is to > > forward the original message to the list, add the line "Approved: > > approval-password" to the very first line of the body, and then the entire > > contents of the original message. (meaning there should not be a blank line > > before and after the "Approved:" line.) > > > > I did just this, I forwarded the bounced message to the list with the first > > line of my > > message being "approved " and no extra lines before or after. > > A few minutes later my teeth cringed as my password was sent to the list along > > with the bounced message.... Anybody have a better grasp on how to do this? > > I haven't (yet) suffered the ignimony of having my password sent to the > list, but I have had incorrect approvals bounce back at me. > > I put > > Approved: passwd > > (note the colon:), then I delete all the lines down to the date of the > original message and forward this to the list. > > I hope this helps. > > Paul. > > -- > - Paul Statter, Felsted School pgs@felsted.rmplc.co.uk 0973 797113 > - Any views expressed are my own and not those of "Felsted School" -- Tim Connolly tec@mountain.net MountainNet, Inc. -- (304) 594-9075 ext. 37 2816 Cranberry Square -- fax (304) 594-9088 Morgantown, WV 26505 -- If you sit down at a poker game and don't see a sucker, -- get up. You're the sucker. (Story of my life) From majordomo-users-owner Thu May 14 16:59:55 1998 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-970926-1) id QAA06191; Thu, 14 May 1998 16:06:06 -0700 (PDT) Received: (mcb@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-980202-1) id QAA06179 for majordomo-users@greatcircle.com; Thu, 14 May 1998 16:06:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pegasus.host4u.net ([209.150.128.41]) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-980202-1) with ESMTP id HAA08571 for ; Tue, 12 May 1998 07:12:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: from interlink-inc.net (1Cust100.tnt18.atl2.da.uu.net [153.36.118.100]) by pegasus.host4u.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA17429 for ; Tue, 12 May 1998 09:14:04 -0500 Message-ID: <35585A19.9B2570A4@interlink-inc.net> Date: Tue, 12 May 1998 10:18:01 -0400 From: Chris Baker Organization: Inter*Link Technology Solutions, Inc. X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.05 [en] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Majordomo Mail List Subject: Config File Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk Can anyone help, I have read the doc on changing the config file, and believe i have done what it states, but I still get a error. Basically I want to automat the subscribe and unsubscribe function. I will give you the before and after of the script: Before: # subscribe_policy [enum] (open) /open;closed;auto;op # One of three values: open, closed, auto; plus an optional # modifier: '+confirm'. Open allows people to subscribe themselves # to the list. Auto allows anybody to subscribe anybody to the list # without maintainer approval. Closed requires maintainer approval # for all subscribe requests to the list. Adding '+confirm', ie, # 'open+confirm', will cause majordomo to send a reply back to the # subscriber which includes a authentication number which must be # sent back in with another subscribe command. subscribe_policy = open # taboo_body [regexp_array] (undef) # If any line of the body matches one of these regexps, then the # message will be bounced for review. taboo_body << END END # taboo_headers [regexp_array] (undef) # If any of the headers matches one of these regexps, then the # message will be bounced for review. taboo_headers << END END # unsubscribe_policy [enum] (open) /open;closed;auto/ # One of three values: open, closed, auto. Open allows people to # unsubscribe themselves from the list. Auto allows anybody to # unsubscribe anybody to the list without maintainer approval. The # existence of the file .auto is the same as specifying # the value auto. Closed requires maintainer approval for all # unsubscribe requests to the list. In addition to the keyword, if # the file .closed exists, it is the same as specifying # the value closed. The value of this keyword overrides the value # supplied by any existent files. unsubscribe_policy = open After: # subscribe_policy [enum] (auto) /open;closed;auto;op # One of three values: open, closed, auto; plus an optional # modifier: '+confirm'. Open allows people to subscribe themselves # to the list. Auto allows anybody to subscribe anybody to the list # without maintainer approval. Closed requires maintainer approval # for all subscribe requests to the list. Adding '+confirm', ie, # 'open+confirm', will cause majordomo to send a reply back to the # subscriber which includes a authentication number which must be # sent back in with another subscribe command. subscribe_policy = auto # taboo_body [regexp_array] (undef) # If any line of the body matches one of these regexps, then the # message will be bounced for review. taboo_body << END END # taboo_headers [regexp_array] (undef) # If any of the headers matches one of these regexps, then the # message will be bounced for review. taboo_headers << END END # unsubscribe_policy [enum] (auto) /open;closed;auto/ # One of three values: open, closed, auto. Open allows people to # unsubscribe themselves from the list. Auto allows anybody to # unsubscribe anybody to the list without maintainer approval. The # existence of the file .auto is the same as specifying # the value auto. Closed requires maintainer approval for all # unsubscribe requests to the list. In addition to the keyword, if # the file .closed exists, it is the same as specifying # the value closed. The value of this keyword overrides the value # supplied by any existent files. unsubscribe_policy = auto Error Message: The new config file for hotblast was NOT accepted because: unknown key |; Wed, 13 May 1998 05:36:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-out-4.tiac.net (mail-out-4.tiac.net [199.0.65.16]) by mail-out-0.tiac.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id IAA03374 for ; Wed, 13 May 1998 08:38:24 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from sdavid@tiac.net) Received: from sdavid.tiac.net (sdavid.tiac.net [206.105.157.50]) by mail-out-4.tiac.net (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id MAA21460 for ; Wed, 13 May 1998 12:38:20 GMT (envelope-from sdavid@tiac.net) Date: Wed, 13 May 1998 08:38:26 -0400 (EDT) From: Scott David Gray To: majordomo-users@GreatCircle.COM Subject: Majordomo aborts on unsubscribe In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk I have majordomo 1.94.4 almost working on my machine (A Linux box, Redhat 5.0, kernel 2.0.32). Messages get resent properly, and people can issue "lists", "who" and "subscribe" commands normally. However, when someone tries to issue an "unsubscribe" command (either as user, or with administrative approval) it sends a message to the list-owner: MAJORDOMO ABORT (mj_majordomo) chown(541, 12, "/usr/local/majordomo/lists/listname.new"): Operation not permitted The person who sent the request is sent a message informing him/her that the command failed. At the end of this message, I've included a full ls -lLaR of my /usr/local/majordomo directory. Thanks for your assistance! --Scott David Gray reply to: sdavid@tiac.net http://www.sudval.org/users/sdg total 263 drwxrwxrwx 6 majordom daemon 1024 May 13 08:33 ./ drwxr-xr-x 17 root root 1024 May 12 20:22 ../ -rw-rw---- 1 100 root 6 May 12 20:24 .majordomo_registration drwxr-xr-x 3 root root 1024 May 12 18:39 Doc/ -rw-rw-rw- 1 majordom daemon 8720 May 13 08:22 Log drwxr-xr-x 2 majordom daemon 1024 Apr 27 14:45 Tools/ -rwxr-xr-x 1 majordom daemon 5234 Apr 27 14:45 archive2.pl* drwxr-xr-x 2 majordom daemon 1024 Apr 27 14:45 bin/ -rwxr-xr-x 1 majordom daemon 2795 Apr 27 14:45 bounce-remind* -rwxr-xr-x 1 majordom daemon 10671 Apr 27 14:45 config-test* -rwxr-xr-x 1 majordom daemon 49673 Apr 27 14:45 config_parse.pl* -rwxr-xr-x 1 majordom daemon 13031 Apr 27 14:45 digest* drwxrwxrwx 4 majordom daemon 1024 May 13 08:22 lists/ -rwxr-xr-x 1 majordom daemon 64252 May 12 22:05 majordomo* -rw-rw-r-- 1 root root 1341 May 12 22:52 majordomo.aliases -rw-r--r-- 1 majordom daemon 10465 Apr 27 14:45 majordomo.cf -rwxr-xr-x 1 majordom daemon 23763 Apr 27 14:45 majordomo.pl* -rwxr-xr-x 1 majordom daemon 137 Apr 27 14:45 majordomo_version.pl* -rwxr-xr-x 1 majordom daemon 3532 Apr 27 14:45 request-answer* -rwxr-xr-x 1 majordom daemon 29520 Apr 27 14:45 resend* -rw-r--r-- 1 majordom daemon 10462 Apr 27 14:45 sample.cf -rwxr-xr-x 1 majordom daemon 8060 Apr 27 14:45 shlock.pl* -rwsr-xr-x 1 root sys 6759 Apr 27 14:45 wrapper* Doc: total 380 drwxr-xr-x 3 root root 1024 May 12 18:39 ./ drwxrwxrwx 6 majordom daemon 1024 May 13 08:33 ../ -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 43993 May 12 18:39 FAQ -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 1554 May 12 18:39 README -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 4912 May 12 18:39 README.digest -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 3038 May 12 18:39 README.sequencer -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 830 May 12 18:39 digest.aliases -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 1369 May 12 18:39 firewalls-digest.cf -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 174 May 12 18:39 firewalls-digest.header -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 3 May 12 18:39 firewalls-digest.num -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 777 May 12 18:39 firewalls-digest.trailer -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 2 May 12 18:39 firewalls-digest.vol -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 24651 May 12 18:39 list-owner-info -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 49848 May 12 18:39 majordomo-faq.html -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 48729 May 12 18:39 majordomo-faq.txt -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 115561 May 12 18:39 majordomo.lisa6.ps -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 73565 May 12 18:39 majordomo.ora drwxr-xr-x 2 root root 1024 May 12 18:39 man/ -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 3439 May 12 18:39 quick-digest-setup Doc/man: total 112 drwxr-xr-x 2 root root 1024 May 12 18:39 ./ drwxr-xr-x 3 root root 1024 May 12 18:39 ../ -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 3512 May 12 18:39 approve.1 -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 4133 May 12 18:39 approve.man -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 18 May 12 18:39 bounce-remind.1 -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 11531 May 12 18:39 bounce-remind.man -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 5435 May 12 18:39 bounce.1 -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 11531 May 12 18:39 bounce.man -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 9805 May 12 18:39 digest.1 -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 20664 May 12 18:39 digest.man -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 7756 May 12 18:39 majordomo.8 -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 8836 May 12 18:39 majordomo.man -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 6223 May 12 18:39 resend.1 -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 12383 May 12 18:39 resend.man Tools: total 34 drwxr-xr-x 2 majordom daemon 1024 Apr 27 14:45 ./ drwxrwxrwx 6 majordom daemon 1024 May 13 08:33 ../ -rwxr-xr-x 1 majordom daemon 3179 Apr 27 14:45 archive.pl* -rwxr-xr-x 1 majordom daemon 796 Apr 27 14:45 archive_mh.pl* -rwxr-xr-x 1 majordom daemon 674 Apr 27 14:45 digest.send* -rwxr-xr-x 1 majordom daemon 3240 Apr 27 14:45 logsummary.pl* -rwxr-xr-x 1 majordom daemon 2752 Apr 27 14:45 makeindex.pl* -rwxr-xr-x 1 majordom daemon 2634 Apr 27 14:45 new-list* -rwxr-xr-x 1 majordom daemon 14963 Apr 27 14:45 sequencer* bin: total 17 drwxr-xr-x 2 majordom daemon 1024 Apr 27 14:45 ./ drwxrwxrwx 6 majordom daemon 1024 May 13 08:33 ../ -rwxr-xr-x 1 majordom daemon 6546 Apr 27 14:45 approve* -rwxr-xr-x 1 majordom daemon 5191 Apr 27 14:45 bounce* -rwxr-xr-x 1 majordom daemon 1345 Apr 27 14:45 medit* lists: total 90 drwxrwxrwx 4 majordom daemon 1024 May 13 08:22 ./ drwxrwxrwx 6 majordom daemon 1024 May 13 08:33 ../ -rw-rw---- 1 100 root 6 May 13 00:48 L.mont-saint-michel-players -rw-rw---- 1 majordom mail 3895 May 13 08:22 discuss-sudbury-model drwxr-xr-x 2 majordom daemon 1024 Apr 27 16:11 discuss-sudbury-model.archive/ -rw-r----- 1 majordom mail 15038 May 12 22:40 discuss-sudbury-model.config -rw-r--r-- 1 majordom daemon 9634 Apr 27 16:11 discuss-sudbury-model.info -rw-r--r-- 1 majordom daemon 9635 Apr 27 16:11 discuss-sudbury-model.intro -rw-rw---- 1 100 root 0 May 13 08:18 discuss-sudbury-model.new -rw-r----- 1 majordom daemon 6 Apr 27 16:11 discuss-sudbury-model.passwd -rw-rw---- 1 majordom mail 40 May 12 22:39 mont-saint-michel-players drwxr-xr-x 2 majordom daemon 1024 Apr 27 16:11 mont-saint-michel-players.archive/ -rw-r----- 1 majordom mail 14942 May 12 22:39 mont-saint-michel-players.config -rw-r--r-- 1 majordom daemon 3082 Apr 27 16:11 mont-saint-michel-players.info -rw-r--r-- 1 majordom daemon 3082 Apr 27 16:11 mont-saint-michel-players.intro -rw-rw---- 1 100 root 0 May 13 00:48 mont-saint-michel-players.new -rw-r----- 1 majordom daemon 11 Apr 27 16:11 mont-saint-michel-players.passwd -rw-rw---- 1 majordom mail 57 May 12 23:07 msm-gms -rw-r----- 1 majordom mail 14910 May 12 22:25 msm-gms.config -rw-r----- 1 majordom daemon 11 May 12 09:31 msm-gms.passwd lists/discuss-sudbury-model.archive: total 132 drwxr-xr-x 2 majordom daemon 1024 Apr 27 16:11 ./ drwxrwxrwx 4 majordom daemon 1024 May 13 08:22 ../ -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 9322 Apr 27 16:11 artonoth.txt -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 4564 Apr 27 16:11 aspects.txt -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 17165 Apr 27 16:11 bac2basc.txt -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 39203 Apr 27 16:11 crisis.txt -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 16534 Apr 27 16:11 freelast.txt -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 5360 Apr 30 23:30 injustic.txt -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 10335 Apr 27 16:11 lrn2trs.txt -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 8155 Apr 27 16:11 svsfaq.txt -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 13273 Apr 27 16:11 wayne.txt lists/mont-saint-michel-players.archive: total 47 drwxr-xr-x 2 majordom daemon 1024 Apr 27 16:11 ./ drwxrwxrwx 4 majordom daemon 1024 May 13 08:22 ../ -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 4667 Apr 27 16:11 combat -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 6286 Apr 27 16:11 history -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 2031 Apr 27 16:11 place -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 4115 Apr 27 16:11 pubchar -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 2323 Apr 27 16:11 question -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 4228 Apr 27 16:11 religion -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 2219 Apr 27 16:11 system -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 13525 Apr 27 16:11 time From majordomo-users-owner Thu May 14 18:23:52 1998 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-970926-1) id SAA11434; Thu, 14 May 1998 18:16:36 -0700 (PDT) Received: from turbot.dfo.ca (cod.mar.dfo-mpo.gc.ca [207.61.69.253]) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-980202-1) with SMTP id SAA11426 for ; Thu, 14 May 1998 18:16:30 -0700 (PDT) Received: id WAA27988; Thu, 14 May 1998 22:14:13 -0300 Received: by gateway id WAA19479 for Majordomo-Users@GreatCircle.COM; Thu, 14 May 1998 22:16:49 -0300 From: bill@ecology.bio.dfo.ca (Bill Silvert) Message-Id: <199805150116.WAA19479@ecology.bio.dfo.ca> Subject: Re: Cascading lists... To: Majordomo-Users@GreatCircle.COM (Majordomo Users) Date: Thu, 14 May 1998 22:16:49 -0300 (ADT) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk Jeffrey Goldberg writes: >Assuming stripped lists, and case insenstive localparts, I do something >like the following > >tr '[A-Z]' '[a-z]' list1 list2 ... list3 | sort -u > superlist Since tr doesn't take arguments, I think that "something like" may mean sort -u -f -o superlist list1 list2 ... listn Since no one else should be posting to this list, give it a really obscure name and Bcc to it -- there is no need to go through resend. -- Bill Silvert, Habitat Ecology Section, Bedford Institute of Oceanography, P. O. Box 1006, Dartmouth, Nova Scotia, CANADA B2Y 4A2, Tel. (902)426-1577 http://www.mar.dfo-mpo.gc.ca/science/mesd/he/staff/silvert/silvert.html From majordomo-users-owner Thu May 14 19:18:12 1998 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-970926-1) id TAA12207; Thu, 14 May 1998 19:07:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: (mcb@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-980202-1) id TAA12197 for majordomo-users@greatcircle.com; Thu, 14 May 1998 19:07:10 -0700 (PDT) Received: from janeway.tgci.com (janeway.tgci.com [205.185.169.3]) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-980202-1) with ESMTP id MAA02607 for ; Thu, 14 May 1998 12:54:55 -0700 (PDT) Received: from sativa ([205.185.169.30]) by janeway.tgci.com (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id MAA19813 for ; Thu, 14 May 1998 12:56:45 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from major@tgci.com) Message-Id: <199805141956.MAA19813@janeway.tgci.com> Comments: Authenticated sender is From: "Mary Fowler" To: majordomo-users@greatcircle.com Date: Thu, 14 May 1998 12:57:18 +0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Subject: Taboo Not Consistant Reply-to: major@tgci.com X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Win32 (v2.54) Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk Greetings! I am finding that even though I have the following listed << END remove off subscribe subscribing unsubscribe removal unsubscribing email address change delete END in the taboo_headers and taboo_body in the config file, our list is still getting messages with the taboo words in the subject header and body. The following are subject headers which got to the list: {forum}forum[]remove from forum {forum}remove from forum Re: {forum}remove my name {forum}remove my name Re: {forum}Please delete my name {forum}Please delete my name Why is this? What have I done wrong? How can I make it right? Any guidance would greatly be appreciated. Be well and TYIA, :)mary From majordomo-users-owner Thu May 14 19:24:05 1998 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-970926-1) id TAA12248; Thu, 14 May 1998 19:08:37 -0700 (PDT) Received: (mcb@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-980202-1) id TAA12234 for majordomo-users@greatcircle.com; Thu, 14 May 1998 19:08:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: from tsunami.xanthia.com (c204-177-32-65.kivex.com [204.177.32.65]) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-980202-1) with ESMTP id RAA10406 for ; Thu, 14 May 1998 17:16:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: from xanthia.com (ip212.herndon6.va.pub-ip.psi.net [38.12.3.212]) by tsunami.xanthia.com (8.9.0.Beta5/8.8.7) with ESMTP id UAA14161; Thu, 14 May 1998 20:16:36 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <355B8977.7C0145EE@xanthia.com> Date: Thu, 14 May 1998 20:16:56 -0400 From: Thomas H Jones II X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.05 [en] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: lceglia@terenet.com.br CC: majordomo-users@greatcircle.com Subject: OPERATING SYSTEM ERROR Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk Did you ever get an answer to this? since switching to Sendmail 8.9.0b5, ive been getting that error (previously, Majordomo was working under sendmail 8.8.8) -tom From majordomo-users-owner Thu May 14 19:25:31 1998 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-970926-1) id TAA12218; Thu, 14 May 1998 19:07:22 -0700 (PDT) Received: (mcb@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-980202-1) id TAA12210 for majordomo-users@greatcircle.com; Thu, 14 May 1998 19:07:19 -0700 (PDT) Received: from uta.marymt.edu (uta.marymt.edu [207.10.165.11]) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-980202-1) with SMTP id OAA04607 for ; Thu, 14 May 1998 14:57:38 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mmc.marymt.edu (mmc.marymt.edu [207.10.165.2]) by uta.marymt.edu (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id OAA06495 for ; Thu, 14 May 1998 14:08:52 -0400 Received: from MMC/MAILQUEUE by mmc.marymt.edu (Mercury 1.13); Thu, 14 May 98 17:55:12 -0500 Received: from MAILQUEUE by MMC (Mercury 1.13); Thu, 14 May 98 17:54:42 -0500 From: "Robert Florkowski" Organization: Marymount College Tarrytown To: majordomo-users@greatcircle.com Date: Thu, 14 May 1998 17:54:36 EST Subject: creating a new list X-mailer: Pegasus Mail v3.22 Message-ID: <4F1C2277FD5@mmc.marymt.edu> Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk Hi, This is my first time setting up a mailing list and I am having a problem establishing a new list. I am following the instruction NEWLIST but when I get to step 7 I keep getting a message back from majordomo saying that my list name does not exist this is the command I am sending from this email account: config MMC-COMP MMC-COMP.admin This is the message I get back: >>>> config MMC-COMP MMC-COMP.admin **** config: unknown list 'MMC-COMP'. **** Help for postmstr@mmc.marymt.edu: In my $listdir I have any empty file called MMC-COMP and another one called MMC-COMP.info. Tech Info: Perl: v5.0003 Majordomo: v1.94.4 BSDI: v3.1 Sendmail Any and all help is greatly appreciated. Please send all responses to this email address FLORKOWS@MMC.MARYMT.EDU thanks, Robert ============================================================================= == Robert Florkowski Tel: (914) 332-8345 == == Office of Financial Aid Fax: (914) 631-8586 == == Marymount College Tarrytown Net: FLORKOWS@MMC.MARYMNT.EDU == ============================================================================= From majordomo-users-owner Thu May 14 19:31:07 1998 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-970926-1) id TAA12146; Thu, 14 May 1998 19:06:15 -0700 (PDT) Received: (mcb@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-980202-1) id TAA12129 for majordomo-users@greatcircle.com; Thu, 14 May 1998 19:06:10 -0700 (PDT) Received: from post.mail.demon.net (post-20.mail.demon.net [194.217.242.27]) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-980202-1) with SMTP id HAA27973 for ; Thu, 14 May 1998 07:51:37 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ellcia.demon.co.uk ([158.152.11.185]) by post.mail.demon.net id aa2001268; 14 May 98 14:23 GMT Received: by arzana.co.uk (NX5.67g/NX3.0M) id AA03633; Thu, 14 May 98 15:23:30 +0100 Message-Id: <9805141423.AA03633@arzana.co.uk> Mime-Version: 1.0 (NeXT Mail 4.2mach v148) Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=NeXT-Mail-975972538-6 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Face: "DUA/H"BiYj%_*yvwAjLR?ycXwS|*3A/A"NqH4x9&Jbr6+tSCj!UL{aZ(nmNy$(s#S-L84 /%GY[_m/j*[6=N+\k7G[FhME}GRZ]k[Lv32S];%8Dm_KQC*'L?%8OnhZzAMVAgc).r0,xh fP_RYI[Z44Z!Q-PWa5u>@7!f{W9x]+V*)"#NJ5LQa/{ X-Nextstep-Mailer: Mail 4.2mach (Enhance 2.0b6) Received: by NeXT.Mailer (1.148) From: Andrew_Forkes@arzana.co.uk Date: Thu, 14 May 98 15:23:23 +0100 To: majordomo-users@greatcircle.com Subject: Help for an unsubscribe error Reply-To: Andrew_Forkes@arzana.co.uk Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk --NeXT-Mail-975972538-6 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Whenever a list member tries to unsubscribe from one of our lists, the list owner receives an email message, containing: ----------- MAJORDOMO ABORT (mj_majordomo)!! chown(115, 0, "/Users/majordom/Lists/folly.new"): Not owner ------------ After running an ls -lr on the above file I get the following: -rw-rw-r-- 1 majordom wheel 0 May 14 13:30 /Users/majordom/Lists/folly.new (Please note that wheel is the regular group for our majordomo) The Log file contains this entry: May 14 13:30:41 lmf.org.uk majordomo[2845] {Guest User Account } ABORT chown(115, 0, "/Users/majordom/Lists/folly.new"): Not owner Any ideas on what the issue is here ? I'm running under OPENSTEP4.2 (read NeXTSTEP) a bsd blend of Unix. And running version 1.94.1 of majordomo. Best regards, Andrew --NeXT-Mail-975972538-6 Content-Type: text/enriched; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Whenever a list member tries to unsubscribe from one of our lists, the list owner receives an email message, containing: Ohlfs----------- MAJORDOMO ABORT (mj_majordomo)!! chown(115, 0, "/Users/majordom/Lists/folly.new"): Not owner ------------ After running an ls -lr on the above file I get the following: -rw-rw-r-- 1 majordom wheel 0 May 14 13:30 /Users/majordom/Lists/folly.new (Please note that wheel is the regular group for our majordomo) The Log file contains this entry: May 14 13:30:41 lmf.org.uk majordomo[2845] {Guest User Account <} ABORT chown(115, 0, "/Users/majordom/Lists/folly.new"): Not owner Any ideas on what the issue is here ? I'm running under OPENSTEP4.2 (read NeXTSTEP) a bsd blend of Unix. And running version 1.94.1 of majordomo. Best regards, Andrew --NeXT-Mail-975972538-6-- From majordomo-users-owner Thu May 14 19:33:45 1998 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-970926-1) id TAA12174; Thu, 14 May 1998 19:06:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: (mcb@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-980202-1) id TAA12164 for majordomo-users@greatcircle.com; Thu, 14 May 1998 19:06:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: from naic.org (naic.org [204.71.111.10]) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-980202-1) with ESMTP id LAA01160 for ; Thu, 14 May 1998 11:30:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: from fuchsj ([165.103.6.53]) by gateway.naic.org with SMTP id <155020>; Thu, 14 May 1998 13:29:01 -0500 Message-ID: <355B38EF.3C1F@naic.org> Date: Thu, 14 May 1998 13:33:19 -0500 From: "Joyce K. Fuchs" Reply-To: jfuchs@naic.org Organization: National Association of Insurance Commissioners X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0 (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Majordomo-Users@GreatCircle.COM CC: jfuchs@naic.org Subject: Returned mail: buildaddr: no net Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk We recently installed Majordomo and have been running into a problem where a message sent to a distribution list is not being delivered to the recipients. This seems to be an intermittent problem. When a message is not delivered, as the list-owner, I receive three messages from this server. Unfortunately, I do not know how to interpret these messages. We are currently running: Majordomo 1.94.4 Perl 5.002 SGI/IRIX 6.3 Sendmail 8.2 What is causing this? What can I do to prevent these lists from not being delivered? HELP! Thanks, Joyce Fuchs E-Mail: JFuchs@naic.org ---------- From: irin_staff-approval To: JKF; irin_staff-approval Subject: Your mail to irin_staff-request@webmaste Date: Thursday, May 14, 1998 10:03AM If you have questions or comments, please contact: irin_staff-owner ---------- From: LMS, Postman To: JKF; owner-irin_staff-owner; LMS, Postman Subject: Returned mail: buildaddr: no net Date: Thursday, May 14, 1998 10:03AM The original message was received at Thu, 14 May 1998 10:26:31 -0500 from majordom@localhost ----- Transcript of session follows ----- 554 buildaddr: no net Message delivered to mailing list irin_staff-owner Message delivered to mailing list irin_staff-owner ----- Original message follows ----- Received: (from majordom@localhost) by WebMaster.naic.org (950413.SGI.8.6.12/950213.SGI.AUTOCF) id KAA11044; Thu, 14 May 1998 10:26:31 -0500 Return-Path: Date: Thu, 14 May 1998 10:26:31 -0500 Message-Id: <199805141526.KAA11044@WebMaster.naic.org> To: irin_staff-approval From: irin_staff-request@webmaster.naic.org Subject: Your mail to irin_staff-request@webmaster.naic.org In-Reply-To: <199805141526.KAA11036@WebMaster.naic.org>, from irin_staff-request Reply-To: irin_staff-approval@webmaster.naic.org If you have questions or comments, please contact: irin_staff-owner ---------- From: LMS, Postman To: JKF; owner-irin_staff-request; LMS, Postman Subject: Returned mail: buildaddr: no net Date: Thursday, May 14, 1998 10:03AM The original message was received at Thu, 14 May 1998 10:26:30 -0500 from majordom@localhost ----- Transcript of session follows ----- 554 buildaddr: no net Message delivered to mailing list irin_staff-request Message delivered to mailing list irin_staff-owner ----- Original message follows ----- Received: (from majordom@localhost) by WebMaster.naic.org (950413.SGI.8.6.12/950213.SGI.AUTOCF) id KAA11036; Thu, 14 May 1998 10:26:30 -0500 Return-Path: Date: Thu, 14 May 1998 10:26:30 -0500 Message-Id: <199805141526.KAA11036@WebMaster.naic.org> To: irin_staff-request From: irin_staff-request@webmaster.naic.org Subject: Your mail to irin_staff-request@webmaster.naic.org In-Reply-To: <199805141526.KAA11032@WebMaster.naic.org>, from irin_staff-request Reply-To: irin_staff-approval@webmaster.naic.org If you have questions or comments, please contact: irin_staff-owner From majordomo-users-owner Thu May 14 19:38:37 1998 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-970926-1) id TAA12688; Thu, 14 May 1998 19:18:41 -0700 (PDT) Received: from gsulaw.gsu.edu (gsulaw.Gsu.EDU [131.96.159.141]) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-980202-1) with ESMTP id TAA12681 for ; Thu, 14 May 1998 19:18:36 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (lawppw@localhost) by gsulaw.gsu.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id WAA17423; Thu, 14 May 1998 22:21:18 -0400 Date: Thu, 14 May 1998 22:21:18 -0400 (EDT) From: Patrick Wiseman To: Chris Baker cc: Majordomo Mail List Subject: Re: Config File In-Reply-To: <35585A19.9B2570A4@interlink-inc.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk On Tue, 12 May 1998, Chris Baker wrote: :Can anyone help, [...] :The new config file for hotblast was NOT accepted because: :unknown key |; Thu, 14 May 1998 19:33:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: from smoe.org [204.167.97.154] (jeffw) by mermaid.shore.net with esmtp (Exim) id 0yaALP-0000Cq-00; Thu, 14 May 1998 22:35:35 -0400 Received: (from jeffw@localhost) by smoe.org (8.8.7/8.8.7/daemon-mode-relay2) id WAA14128; Thu, 14 May 1998 22:38:17 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <19980514223815.U1043@smoe.org> Date: Thu, 14 May 1998 22:38:15 -0400 From: Jeff Wasilko To: Robert Florkowski , majordomo-users@GreatCircle.COM Subject: Re: creating a new list Mail-Followup-To: Robert Florkowski , majordomo-users@GreatCircle.COM References: <4F1C2277FD5@mmc.marymt.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.91.1 In-Reply-To: <4F1C2277FD5@mmc.marymt.edu>; from "Robert Florkowski" on Thu, May 14, 1998 at 05:54:36PM -0500 Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk On Thu, May 14, 1998 at 05:54:36PM -0500, Robert Florkowski wrote: > Hi, > This is my first time setting up a mailing list and I am having a > problem establishing a new list. I am following the instruction > NEWLIST but when I get to step 7 I keep getting a message back from > majordomo saying that my list name does not exist > > this is the command I am sending from this email account: > > config MMC-COMP MMC-COMP.admin > > This is the message I get back: > > >>>> config MMC-COMP MMC-COMP.admin > **** config: unknown list 'MMC-COMP'. > **** Help for postmstr@mmc.marymt.edu: > > In my $listdir I have any empty file called MMC-COMP and another one > called MMC-COMP.info. The files in your $listdir need to be all lower case. You can tell people your list is called MMC-COMP, but the file in $listdir would have to be mmc-comp. Jeff From majordomo-users-owner Thu May 14 19:53:08 1998 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-970926-1) id TAA13232; Thu, 14 May 1998 19:31:17 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mermaid.shore.net (mermaid.shore.net [207.244.124.6]) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-980202-1) with SMTP id TAA13225 for ; Thu, 14 May 1998 19:31:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: from smoe.org [204.167.97.154] (jeffw) by mermaid.shore.net with esmtp (Exim) id 0yaAJU-00009k-00; Thu, 14 May 1998 22:33:36 -0400 Received: (from jeffw@localhost) by smoe.org (8.8.7/8.8.7/daemon-mode-relay2) id WAA14018; Thu, 14 May 1998 22:36:21 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <19980514223619.T1043@smoe.org> Date: Thu, 14 May 1998 22:36:20 -0400 From: Jeff Wasilko To: major@tgci.com, majordomo-users@GreatCircle.COM Subject: Re: Taboo Not Consistant Mail-Followup-To: major@tgci.com, majordomo-users@GreatCircle.COM References: <199805141956.MAA19813@janeway.tgci.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.91.1 In-Reply-To: <199805141956.MAA19813@janeway.tgci.com>; from "Mary Fowler" on Thu, May 14, 1998 at 12:57:18PM +0000 Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk On Thu, May 14, 1998 at 12:57:18PM +0000, Mary Fowler wrote: > Greetings! > > I am finding that even though I have the following listed Taboos are supposed to be regular expressions, such as: /^from:.*trouble\@hassle\.net/i /^subject:.*non-delivery notice/i Please see your majordomo docs or http://www.smoe.org/lists/list-owner-info.html for documentation about regular expressions. > > << END > remove > off > subscribe > subscribing > unsubscribe > removal > unsubscribing > email > address > change > delete > END > > in the taboo_headers and taboo_body in the config file, our list is > still getting messages with the taboo words in the subject header and > body. The following are subject headers which got to the list: > > {forum}forum[]remove from forum > {forum}remove from forum > Re: {forum}remove my name > {forum}remove my name > Re: {forum}Please delete my name > {forum}Please delete my name > > Why is this? What have I done wrong? How can I make it right? Any > guidance would greatly be appreciated. > > Be well and TYIA, > :)mary > From majordomo-users-owner Thu May 14 22:23:45 1998 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-970926-1) id WAA15919; Thu, 14 May 1998 22:19:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: (mcb@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-980202-1) id WAA15909 for majordomo-users@greatcircle.com; Thu, 14 May 1998 22:19:10 -0700 (PDT) Received: from gsulaw.gsu.edu (gsulaw.Gsu.EDU [131.96.159.141]) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-980202-1) with ESMTP id TAA12487 for ; Thu, 14 May 1998 19:14:33 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (lawppw@localhost) by gsulaw.gsu.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id WAA17402; Thu, 14 May 1998 22:17:03 -0400 Date: Thu, 14 May 1998 22:17:03 -0400 (EDT) From: Patrick Wiseman To: Chris Baker cc: Majordomo Mail List Subject: Re: Changing open list to auto list In-Reply-To: <3558983A.AB26056D@interlink-inc.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk On Tue, 12 May 1998, Chris Baker wrote: :My Host provider set up my mail list and after that they don't offer :anymore help. The list was set up where I have to approve everyone as :they subscribe to the list. I want to automat that, where once you :subscribe you are automatically subscribed to the list. I changed the :parameters on the config file (basically where it said open for subscribe :and unsubscribe I changed it to auto), But now I get an error message :saying the conf file has not be accpeted. "auto" allows anyone to subscribe anyone; "open" allows anyone to subscribe themselves. I'm not sure why auto is even an option, as it seems pretty evil to me, unless accompanied with "+confirm". In any event, your problem is with your provider (assuming you sent an appropriate newconfig command) and not with the auto/open distinction. Patrick From majordomo-users-owner Thu May 14 22:32:54 1998 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-970926-1) id WAA15932; Thu, 14 May 1998 22:19:26 -0700 (PDT) Received: (mcb@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-980202-1) id WAA15924 for majordomo-users@greatcircle.com; Thu, 14 May 1998 22:19:23 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail.cis.ohio-state.edu (mail.cis.ohio-state.edu [164.107.8.55]) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-980202-1) with SMTP id WAA15767 for ; Thu, 14 May 1998 22:02:54 -0700 (PDT) Received: from stumble.cis.ohio-state.edu (stumble.cis.ohio-state.edu [164.107.128.12]) by mail.cis.ohio-state.edu (8.6.7/8.6.4) with ESMTP id BAA17641 for ; Fri, 15 May 1998 01:05:02 -0400 From: Dave Barr Received: (barr@localhost) by stumble.cis.ohio-state.edu (8.8.0/8.6.4) id BAA24120 for majordomo-users@greatcircle.com; Fri, 15 May 1998 01:05:02 -0400 (EDT) Date: Fri, 15 May 1998 01:05:02 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <199805150505.BAA24120@stumble.cis.ohio-state.edu> To: majordomo-users@greatcircle.com Reply-To: barr@cis.ohio-state.edu Subject: Majordomo Frequently Asked Questions Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk Version: $Id: majordomo-faq.html,v 1.176 1998/05/07 13:02:48 barr Exp barr $ URL: http://www.cis.ohio-state.edu/~barr/majordomo-faq.html Archive-Name: mail/majordomo-faq Posting-Frequency: monthly Note: This FAQ has been recently updated to be exclusively for Majordomo 1.94 and up. Table of Contents: 1. What is Majordomo and how can I get it? + 1.1 - What is Majordomo? + 1.2 - Where do I get Majordomo? + 1.3 - How do I install it? + 1.4 - How do I upgrade from an earlier release? + 1.5 - Where do I report bugs or get help with Majordomo? + 1.6 - Which is better, Majordomo or LISTSERV? + 1.7 - How can I access Majordomo via the Web? 2. Problems setting up Majordomo + 2.1 - What are the proper permissions and ownership of all Majordomo files and directories? + 2.2 - I get a MAJORDOMO ABORT with "chown(...): Not owner" or ".. Operation not permitted" + 2.3 - I get "sh: wrapper: cannot execute" or "wrapper: permission denied" + 2.4 - I get "Unknown mailer error" when majordomo runs + 2.5 - I get an error "insecure usage" from the wrapper + 2.6 - I get "majordomo: No such file or directory" from the wrapper + 2.7 - I get an error "Can't locate majordomo.pl" + 2.8 - I told my majordomo.cf where to archive the list, why isn't it working? + 2.9 - config-test can't seem to find ctime.pl or resend can't find getopts.pl + 2.10 - A list is visible via lists, but can't subscribe or 'get' files + 2.11 - I get "sh: wrapper not available for sendmail programs" + 2.12 - I get "Aliasing/Forwarding Loop Broken" 3. Setting up mailing lists and aliases + 3.1 - How do I direct bounces to the right address? + 3.2 - Semi-automated handling of bounced mail + 3.3 - What's this Owner-List and List-Owner stuff? Why both? + 3.4 - How should I configure resend for Reply-To headers? + 3.5 - How can I hide lists so they can't be viewed by 'lists'? + 3.6 - How can I restrict a list such that only subscribers can send mail to the list? + 3.7 - Can I have the list owner or approval person be changeable without intervention from the Majordomo owner? + 3.8 - What are all these different passwords? + 3.9 - How do I tell majordomo to handle "get"-ing of binary files? + 3.10 - How do I set up a moderated list? + 3.11 - How do I set up a digested version of a list? + 3.12 - How do I setup virtual majordomo domains? 4. Mailer and list admininistration problems + 4.1 - Address with blanks are being treated separately + 4.2 - Why aren't my digests going out? + 4.3 - Why do I get duplicate mail sent to the list? + 4.4 - How do I gate my list to and/or from a newsgroup? + 4.5 - How can I improve Majordomo's performance? + 4.6 - How can I handle X.400 addresses? + 4.7 - Why is the Subject of my messages missing? + 4.8 - I'm getting mail from majordomo with "BOUNCE:" what do I do? How do I stop this? + 4.9 - My list configuration doesn't seem to be working. + 4.10 - How do I set it up so that the originator of a message doesn't get a copy of his/her own message back? + 4.11 - With Smail or Exim, users subscribing to a list sometimes get mail sent before they subscribed + 4.12 - Majordomo doesn't seem to work with sendmail 8.9beta This FAQ is Copyright 1996 by David Barr and The Ohio State University. This document may be reproduced, so long as it is kept in its entirety and in its original format. Credits: This FAQ originally written by Vincent D. Skahan. Many thanks to the members of the majordomo-workers and majordomo-users mailing lists for many of the questions and answers found in this FAQ. Thanks to fen@comedia.com (Fen Labalme) for getting an HTML version started. You can get an HTML version of this FAQ on the World Wide Web at http://www.cis.ohio-state.edu/~barr/majordomo-faq.html. You can request a copy by email by sending a message to mail-server@rtfm.mit.edu, with the following text in the body: send usenet/comp.mail.list-admin.software/Majordomo_Frequently_Asked_Questions If you have any questions or submissions regarding this FAQ, send them to barr@cis.ohio-state.edu (David Barr). _________________________________________________________________ Section 1: What is Majordomo and how can I get it? 1.1 - What is Majordomo? Majordomo is a program which automates the management of Internet mailing lists. Commands are sent to Majordomo via electronic mail to handle all aspects of list maintainance. Once a list is set up, virtually all operations can be performed remotely, requiring no intervention upon the postmaster of the list site. See the main Majordomo web page at: http://www.greatcircle.com/majordomo/ Majordomo controls a list of addresses for some mail transport system (like sendmail or smail) to handle. Majordomo itself performs no mail delivery (though it has scripts to format and archive messages). majordomo - n: a person who speaks, makes arrangements, or takes charge for another. From latin "major domus" - "master of the house". Majordomo is written in Perl. It will work with Perl 4.036 or Perl 5.002 or greater. It will not work with Perl 5.001!!!. It is recommended that you use the latest release of Perl that you can get, which can be found at http://www.perl.com/perl/. You must upgrade to version 1.94.3 in order for it to work with Perl 5.004, due to changes in regular expressions. While Majordomo is still compatible with Perl 4.036, future versions will likely be Perl 5 only. Many people have been having problems with DEC OSF/1 AXP systems with Majordomo. Apparently Perl on the Alphas is not as stable as compared to other platforms, and Majordomo tickles bugs in that port of Perl. If you are having problems, please make sure you are running the very latest version of Perl (version 5.002 is known to work). There have also been reported problems with the native compiler for AIX 3.2.5. Perl compiled with that compiler will crash when running Majordomo (even though it passes all the regression tests), however if you compile Perl with gcc it will work. Majordomo was developed under UNIX based systems, but will probably work on others. If you can get Perl to compile and run cleanly on your system, and can send Internet mail by piping or calling an external program (and that external program reads its list of recipients from a plain text file), you can probably get Majordomo to work on a wide variety of UNIX-based and non-UNIX based systems. There is no known port of Majordomo to Windows NT or Win95. For more information, see the comp.os.msdos.mail-news FAQ. At last check there was a port of an old version (1.93) to MS-DOS/Waffle, and an old version (1.93) ported to OS/2. These probably aren't all that helpful for anyone porting Majordomo to NT. Here's a short list of some of the features of Majordomo. * supports various types of lists, including moderated ones. * List options can be set easily through a configuration file, editable remotely. * Supports archival and remote retrieval of messages. * Supports digests. * Written in Perl, - easily customizable and expandable. * Modular in design. * Includes support for FTPMAIL. * Supports confirmation of subscriptions (to protect against forged subscription requests). * List filters 1.2 - Where do I get Majordomo? Via the Web at: http://www.greatcircle.com/majordomo/ Via anonymous FTP at: ftp://ftp.greatcircle.com/pub/majordomo/ ftp://ftp.sgi.com/other/majordomo/ ftp://ftp.sgi.com/other/majordomo/ The current version is 1.94.4. It includes a security fix for a bug found in 1.94.3 and prior. If you don't have Perl, you can get it from: http://www.perl.com/perl/ Use that link for more information about Perl, too. The FTPMAIL package can be found in ftp://src.doc.ic.ac.uk/packages/ftpmail or any comp.sources.misc archive (volume 37). 1.3 - How do I install it? Majordomo comes with a rather extensive INSTALL file. Read this file completely. There's also a README file which also covers some common problems. This FAQ is meant to be a supplement to Majordomo's documentation, not a replacement for it. If you have any questions that this FAQ doesn't cover, chances are that it is covered in the documentation in the Majordomo distribution. For anyone who is going to run a list, you must read Doc/list-owner-info before trying to do anything. If you don't have access to the system where your list is being run, the Majordomo maintainer who set up your list should have sent it to you. Bug him if he didn't. If you have permission problems unpacking the distribution, try using the 'o' flag to tar to ignore user/group information. 1.4 - How do I upgrade from an earlier release? Be sure to browse the "Changelog" file to get an idea what has changed. There currently is no canned set of instructions for upgrading from an earlier release. The most straightforward method is to simply install the current release in a different directory, (with the same list/archive/digest directories) and change the mail aliases for each list to use the new Majordomo scripts as soon as you feel comfortable with the new setup. Be careful in upgrading to 1.94 that you update your $mailer and $bounce_mailer variables in your majordomo.cf! There are also some other new variables too. You may want to update the list .config files so they contain any new variables found in the new release. You just need to do a 'writeconfig' for each list, and majordomo will update the .config file using the existing values in the old .config file. Any new variables will be set to defaults for a new list. 1.5 - Where do I report bugs or get help with Majordomo? Please DO NOT ask the FAQ maintainer for help on Majordomo. I will probably accidently delete your message. Let me say that about 90% of the answers I give are from the documentation or this FAQ. Most of the rest are answered by reading the source. It's really not that hard to figure out. If you need help, there is a mailing list majordomo-users@greatcircle.com, which is frequented by lots of users of Majordomo. Report actual bugs to majordomo-workers@greatcircle.com. It's a good idea to search an browse the list archives below for the last couple months since many of the same questions are asked (and answered) over and over again. There are searchable list archives (thanks to Jason Tibbitts) at http://www.hpc.uh.edu/majordomo-users/ and http://www.hpc.uh.edu/majordomo-workers/. Be sure always to include which version of Majordomo you are using. You should also include what operating system you are using, what version of Perl, and what mailer (sendmail, smail, qmail, etc) and version you are using, especially if you can't get Majordomo to work at all. But first, you must have thoroughly read the ALL documentation in the Majordomo distribution and this FAQ. If you got this FAQ from the Majordomo distribution, or anywhere except from the WWW site at the top of this document don't expect it to be up-to-date. It's probably not. There is an FTP site for unofficial patches. See ftp://sol.ccsf.cc.ca.us/majordomo-patches/ . What's in it? Messages that are saved from the majordomo-users and -workers mailing lists. There are INDEX files in each part with one-line summaries of each patch, and a README file in the top directory with overall information. If you have patches that you think should be in the archive, you can FTP or email them in. The top-level README file tells how to do it. Please contribute -- to save other people the headaches you had. NOTE: The patches are NOT "official" patches approved by Chan Wilson or anyone else. Use your own judgement before (and after) you apply them. Nick Perry also has various patches for 1.94.3 at ftp://ftp.amulation.co.uk/pub/majordomo_patches/. They are patches which add various functions to majordomo. Do NOT ask questions about Majordomo on the list-managers@greatcircle.com list. That list is for general discussions about running mailing lists, not for help on specific packages. The same goes for the Usenet group comp.mail.list-admin.policy. There is a good guide for people running majordomo lists at http://docuspace.uchicago.edu/g_maj-adm.html. Look for a great book out now from O'Reilly and Associates called "Managing Mailing Lists", by Alan Schwartz. You can read my review of the book at http://www.cis.ohio-state.edu/~barr/managing-maillist-review.html . I was one of the book's technical reviewers. 1.6 - Which is better, Majordomo or LISTSERV? For a good comparison of various mailing list managers (MLM's) there's a good FAQ by Norm Aleks. It is posted monthly to news.answers and comp.mail.list-admin.software. It's also mirrored at the following URL. ftp://ftp.uu.net/usenet/news.answers/mail/list-admin/software-faq. (this file no longer exists, apparently. If anyone knows where this, please let me know) Contact naleks@library.ummed.edu (Norm Aleks) for more information. 1.7 - How can I access Majordomo via the Web? There are various Web interfaces to Majordomo available. * LWGate - http://www.netspace.org/users/dwb/lwgate.html * Regan's - http://www.peak.org/peak_info/mlists/Majordomo.html * MajorCool - http://ncrinfo.ncr.com/pub/contrib/unix/MajorCool/ * MailServ - http://iquest.com/~fitz/www/mailserv/ * Pandora - http://www.ed.umuc.edu/pandora/ * Maitre-d - http://www.outer.net/wps/content2.htm#ch12 * Gutierrez' - http://gaia.gutierrez.com/majordomo/ * Marcos' - http://www.inf.utfsm.cl/~marcos/majordomo/www.html * ListTool - http://www.listtool.com/ Section 2: Problems setting up Majordomo 2.1 - What are the proper permissions and ownership of all Majordomo files and directories? By far the biggest problem in setting up Majordomo is getting all the permissions and ownerships right. In part this is due to the security model that Majordomo uses, and it's also due to the fact that it's hard to automate this process. Once you install majordomo, run "./wrapper config-test" as some other user (like you) and read the results. Do NOT run "./wrapper config-test" as 'root' or your 'majordom' user. That will defeat the test of the wrapper operation. The config-test script will check your installation for correct permissions (as well as other tests) and report any problems. It's not quite perfect, but it catches 95% of all problems. Majordomo works by using a small C "wrapper" which works by allowing Majordomo to always run as the "majordom" user and group that you create. (note that the wrapper may disappear in a future release, since its function could safely be replaced by features found in Perl 5) You can use a different name than "majordom" for your user and group, but that is what is assumed for the explanations found in this document. The 1.94.3 INSTALL file suggests using 'daemon' as your majordomo group. This is the group that 'sendmail' runs as, and allows you to have $homedir permissions set to 750. This has the disadvantage in environments where there may be one or more administrators of the Majordomo system or where you don't want to always have to 'su' the the majordomo user to do administration. (you don't really want to put other normal users in the 'daemon' group for security reasons) If you create a separate 'majordom' group and add yourself and other majordomo administrators to it, then you'll need to make sure the $homedir and wrapper have world execute permission, and you may have to add 'majordom' to the 'trusted' list of users in your sendmail.cf. (otherwise sendmail 8.x will probably give "X-Authentication-Warning:"'s) Because Majordomo does not run with any "special" (root) priviliges, and because of the fact that Majordomo does a lot of .lock-style locking (with shlock.pl), permissions on all files and directories are critical to the correct operation of Majordomo. The wrapper The wrapper is compiled in one of two ways, by uncommenting the correct section in the Makefile for your type of system. If you are unsure if your system is POSIX or not, I would suggest you assume that your system is not. (The default is POSIX) If things don't work right (for example you get symptoms of permission problems or you get an error from the wrapper saying to recompile using POSIX flags), then try POSIX. Some systems which are non-POSIX: SunOS 4.x, Ultrix, most BSD 4.2 and 4.3-based systems. POSIX systems include: Solaris 2.x, IRIX 5.x, BSDI (and other 4.4 BSD-based systems), Linux. Make sure W_PATH is right in the Makefile. On IRIX 5.x, you need to add /usr/bsd to the W_PATH to get the hostname (needed by Perl) command. (IRIX doesn't have a /usr/ucb). If you are on a non-POSIX system, the wrapper must be both suid and sgid (mode 6755) to "majordom". It must not be setuid root! OR On a POSIX system the wrapper must be setuid root, and double-check that W_USER and W_GROUP are the uid and gid of the "majordom" user and group. Don't ever set W_USER to be 0! Then compile the wrapper and install it. Do not install the wrapper on an NFS filesystem mounted with the "nosuid" option set. This will prevent the wrapper from working. Majordomo files All files that majordomo creates will be mode 660, user "majordom", group "majordom" if it is running correctly (see $config_umask in the majordomo.cf). The "Log" file that Majordomo writes logging information to must have this same permission and ownership. Make sure any files you create by hand (.config, subscription lists) have this same permission and ownership. (they can also be mode 664 if you don't need the contents to be private to others) The permissions/ownership of the Majordomo programs and related files themselves aren't as critical, but the must all be readable to the "majordom" user/group. All Majordomo programs (majordomo, resend, etc.) must have the execute bit set. All Majordomo programs must have the correct path to Perl in the #! line in the beginning of the script. The 'make install' process should do this all automatically for you. Majordomo directories All directories under Majordomo's control ($homedir, $listdir, $digest_work_dir, $filedir, as defined in your majordomo.cf) must be at least mode 750 (or 755). They should be user and group owned by "majordom". If want to allow a local user to be able to directly modify files or for example copy files into a list's archive directory, you may make the directory or file owned by that user. However directories and files must be then group-"majordom" writeable (770 or 775). 2.2 - I get a MAJORDOMO ABORT with "chown(...): Not owner" or ".. Operation not permitted" Most likely your wrapper is not installed correctly. Re-check the Makefile and see if the wrapper was compiled with the right UID and GID. See the README and the above section on how to set the permissions correctly. Make sure after you fix the wrapper that you remove (or rename) any "listname.new" or "L.listname" files found in your lists directory. These will likely have the wrong ownerships, and cause you problems. You should have seen an error if you ran "./wrapper config-test". If not, it's a bug in config-test and should be fixed. 2.3 - I get "sh: wrapper: cannot execute" or "wrapper: permission denied" This is a bug in the 1.94 Makefile. You'll see this in new installs of Majordomo if you don't use a majordomo group of 'daemon'. The majordomo $homedir needs to have permission of at least 751 (or 755), not 750. Otherwise, sendmail won't have permission to execute the wrapper. You'll need to do a 'chmod 755 $homedir' after you install majordomo. Make sure 'wrapper' also has world execute permission. Some people also have put the user 'daemon' in the 'majordom' group. This works too. 2.4 - I get "Unknown mailer error" when majordomo runs If something is wrong with your setup, the wrapper will often exit with various return codes depending on what the problem is. In order to really understand what is going on, look at the session transcript further down in the bounce message to see the error which is returned from the wrapper or from Majordomo. You should usually see some sort of error message. If you just get a return code, check the Majordomo README for futher explanation on sendmail return codes. If you get "Unknown mailer error XX" where XX is less than 255, look for the error in /usr/include/errno.h . Otherwise, see the README. See section 1.1 above for what versions of Perl won't work with Majordomo. [reported by Russell Street] You may also get problems when messages to majordomo are queued (for example if you change sendmail's behavior to always queue messages rather than perform immediate delivery). The problem was that if sendmail queues a message it smashes the case in command lines and addresses when the queue gets processed. This is in spite of the lines shown by mailq. This is sendmail 5.x on Solaris 2.3, but it might apply to other versions of sendmail. 2.5 - I get an error "insecure usage" from the wrapper The argument to "wrapper" should be simply be the command, not the full path to the command. "wrapper" has where to look compiled in to it (the "W_HOME" setting in the Makefile) and for security reasons will not let you specify another directory. Your alias should say for example: |"/path/to/majordomo/wrapper majordomo" 2.6 - I get "majordomo: No such file or directory" from the wrapper Make sure that the #! statement at the beginning of all the Majordomo Perl executables contain the correct path to the perl program (the default is /usr/local/bin/perl). Note many UNIXes have a 32 character limit on that path -- make sure it doesn't exceed this limit. Make sure also that majordomo and all the related scripts are in the W_HOME directory as defined in the Makefile when you compiled the wrapper. 2.7 - I get an error "Can't locate majordomo.pl" [from Brent Chapman] Majordomo adds "$homedir" from the majordomo.cf file to the @INC array before it goes looking for "majordomo.pl". Since it's not finding it, I'd guess you have one of two problems: 1) $homedir is set improperly (or not set at all; there is no default) in your majordomo.cf file. 2) majordomo.pl is not in $homedir, or is not readable. [from John P. Rouillard] 3) Note that the new majordomo.cf file checks to see if the environment variable $HOME is set first, and uses that for $homedir. Since the wrapper always sets HOME to the correct directory, you get a nice default, unless you are running a previously built wrapper, in which case you may get the wrong directory. [from Andreas Fenner] 4) I had the same problem when I installed majordomo (1.62). My Problem was a missing ";" in the majordomo.cf file - just in the line before setting homedir .... My hint for you: Check your perl-files carefully. 2.8 - I told my majordomo.cf where to archive the list, why isn't it working? [From John Rouillard] The archive variables in majordomo.cf aren't used to archive anything. You have to use a separate archive program, or a sendmail alias to do the archiving. The info is used to generate a directory where the archive files are being placed by some other mechanism. You are telling majordomo to look in the directory: /usr/local/mail/majordomo/archive/listname for files that it should allow to be gotten using the get command. Majordomo comes with three different archive programs that run under wrapper, that do various types of archiving. Look in the contrib directory. 2.9 - config-test can't seem to find ctime.pl or resend can't find getopts.pl ctime.pl and getopts.pl are included in the standard Perl distribution. If it can't find it, it means Perl was not installed correctly. Re-install Perl. (you may want to take the opportunity to upgrade Perl, too) 2.10 - A list is visible via lists, but can't subscribe or 'get' files [From Brent Chapman] I'll bet your list name has capital letters in it... Majordomo smashes all list names to all-lower-case before attempting to use the list name as part of a filename. So, while it's OK to advertise (for instance) "Majordomo-Users" and have the headers say "Majordomo-Users", the file names and archive directory names themselves all need to be in lower case. If you want to use mixed case, simply configure the list using the lower-case names everywhere, except put the mixed-case version in the "-l" and "-h" flags to resend. 2.11 - I get "sh: wrapper not available for sendmail programs" You're on a system which uses smrsh. (sendmail restricted shell). You have to configure smrsh to allow it to execute the wrapper. Normally this is done by creating a symlink in /var/adm/sm.bin to Majordomo's wrapper program. 2.12 - I get "Aliasing/Forwarding Loop Broken" [ Reported by Wade Williams ] Some people have noted sendmail will generate a bounce message if you send to a list, but the list file is empty (there are no subscribers). Add a subscriber to the list and the error should go away. _________________________________________________________________ Section 3: Setting up mailing lists and aliases 3.1 - How do I direct bounces to the right address? You should use 'resend' to filter all messages. Make sure the "sender" variable in the list config file points to "owner-listname" and that you have defined the "owner-listname" alias to point to the owner of the list. What this does is force outgoing mail to have the out-of-band envelope FROM be "owner-listname", and thus all bounces will be redirected to that address. (This address is what gets copied into the message body as the "From " or "Return-Path:" header). 'resend' also inserts a "Sender:" line with the same address to help people identify where it came from, but that header is not used in the bounce process. If you are using sendmail v8.x, you don't have to use 'resend' to do the same thing. You simply have to define an alias like this: owner-sample: joe, Note the trailing comma is necessary to prevent sendmail from resolving the alias first before putting it in the header. Without the comma, it will put "joe" in the envelope from instead of "owner-sample". Either address will work, of course, but the generic address is preferred should the owner ever change. However if you choose not to use 'resend', you will have to do without most of majordomo's other features like moderating, administrivia checks, and others. 3.2 - Semi-automated handling of bounced mail This is not true automation of bounced mail. What this does is the next best thing. You unsubscribe the user from the list, but add the user to a special 'bounces' list (there's a perl script in the distribution called bounce you run to make this easier) The majordomo maintainer then runs (out of cron) the 'bounce-remind' script periodically, which sends mail to all the people on the bounces list, saying essentially "you were removed from list 'foo' because mail to you bounced. To subscribe yourself back to the list, send the following commands ...". There's no facility yet for trimming the bounces list, but it's easy to write one because the date the person was added to the bounces list is included (so you could write a perl script which removes anyone on the list for more than one week, assuming you run bounce-remind more than once a week). There's no facility for automatically detecting what addresses are failing. You have to determine that based on the bounce messages you receive from other sites. [From John Rouillard] Just create a mailing list called "bounces". I usually set mine up as an auto list just to make life easier. All that "bounce" script does is create an email message to majordomo that says: approve [passwd] unsubscribe [listname] [address] approve [passwd] subscribe bounces [address] The [address] and [listname], are given on the command line to bounce. The address of the majordomo, and the passwords are retrieved from the .majordomo file in your home directory. A sample .majordomo file might look like (shamelessly stolen from the comments at the top of the bounce script): this-list passwd1 Majordomo@This.COM other-list passwd2 Majordomo@Other.COM bounces passwd3 Majordomo@This.COM bounces passwd4 Majordomo@Other.COM A command of "bounce this-list user@fubar.com" will mail the following message to Majordomo@This.COM: approve passwd1 unsubscribe this-list user@fubar.com approve passwd3 subscribe bounces user@fubar.com (930401 this-list) while a command of "bounce other-list user@fubar.com" will mail the following message to Majordomo@Other.COM: approve passwd2 unsubscribe other-list user@fubar.com approve passwd4 subscribe bounces user@fubar.com (930401 this-list) Note that the date and the list the user was bounced from are included as a comment in the address used for the "subscribe bounces" command. 3.3 - What's this Owner-List and List-Owner stuff? Why both? [From David Barr] The "standard" is spelled out in RFC 1211 - "Problems with the Maintenance of Large Mailing Lists". It's here where the "owner-listname" and "listname-request" concepts got their start. (well it was before this, but this is where it was first spelled out) Personally, I don't use "listname-owner" anywhere. You don't really have to put both, since the "owner" alias is usually only for bounces, which you add automatically anyway with resend's "-f" flag, or having Sendmail v8.x's "owner-listname" alias. (while I'm on the subject) The "-approval" is a Majordomo-ism, and is only necessary if you want bounces and approval notices to go to different mailboxes. (though you'll have to edit some code in majordomo and request-answer if you want to get rid of the -approval alias, since it's currently hardwired in) So, to answer your question, I'd say "no". You don't have to have both. You should just have "owner-list". 3.4 - How should I configure resend for Reply-To headers? Whether you should have a "Reply-To:" or not depends on the charter of your list and the nature of its users. If the list is a discussion list and you generally want replies to go back to the list, you can include one. Some people don't like being told what to do, and prefer to be able to choose whether to send a private reply or a reply to the list just by using the right function on their mail agent. Take note that if you do use a "Reply-To:", then some mail agents make it much harder for a person on the list to send a private reply. The most important reason why Reply-To: to the list is bad is that it can cause mail loops if any of the members of your list are running fairly-common but broken software which doesn't know what an envelope address is. (Many Microsoft products, as well as many other PC-based non-SMTP/Internet mail systems which work through an SMTP gateway.) You should read the following FAQ on why you shouldn't set the Reply-To: field. http://www.unicom.com/pw/reply-to-harmful.html If you are using resend, use the 'reply_to' configuration variable in the list .config file. 3.5 - How can I hide lists so they can't be viewed by 'lists'? That is what advertise and noadvertise are for. These two variables take regular expressions that are matched against the from address of the sender. A list display follows the rules: 1. If the from address is on the list, it is shown. 2. If the from address matches a regexp in noadvertise (e.g. /.*/) the list is not shown. 3. If the advertise list is empty, the list is shown unless 2 applies. 4. If the advertise list is non-empty, the from address must match an address in advertise. Otherwise the list is not shown. Rule 2 applies, so you could allow all hosts in umb.edu except hosts in cs.umb.edu. 3.6 - How can I restrict a list such that only subscribers can send mail to the list? See the restrict_post variable in the config file. Just set it to the filename that holds the list of subscribers, which is just simply the name of the list. ("restrict-post = listname"). However, there is a problem with either of these methods. Majordomo works by filtering the messages coming in through the "listname" alias, doing its dirty work, then passing the resulting message out to another alias you define like "listname-outgoing". If you trust people to not send mail directly to the "listname-outgoing" alias, then you'll be fine. If however you're not trusting, there are several steps to make sure people don't bypass the restrictions of the list. There are several methods. First you need to change your "listname-outgoing" alias such that it is not obvious. (That means don't use something easy to guess like "-outgoing" or "-list"). Next, you need to make it such that people can't find out what your -outgoing alias is. You can use the "@filename" directive in resend to move the command-line options of resend into a file readable only by the majordomo user/group. This will make it such that you can't find out the -outgoing address by connecting to your mailer and doing an EXPN or VRFY. The "@filename" directive seems to have fallen into undocumentation for some reason. This should be fixed in future releases. This doesn't prevent a user reading the local /etc/aliases file (if they can), however. Another approach is to simply disable EXPN or VRFY altogether. See the documentation for your mailer on how to do this. However this doesn't prevent a local user reading of the aliases file. This isn't generally a problem if your mail server is restricted to staff only users. Sendmail 8.x will unfortunately log your -outgoing alias in the "Received:" lines. To prevent this you need to specify more than one address for the list name argument to resend. (for example "mylist:|"/usr/local/lib/majordomo/wrapper resend -h foo.org -l mylist mylist-seekrit,nobody"" where nobody is an alias for /dev/null) For Sendmail 8.x you must not define an alias 'owner-mylist-seekrit' to be something like 'owner-mylist,' (with the commma). Otherwise sendmail will set the envelope address of outgoing mail to contain your secret outgoing alias. Again if you're using the @filename directive, the entire command line is simply put into the specified file (starting with "-h foo.org ...". Finally it should be noted that it is impossible with any method to prevent people from forging mail as someone on the list, and sending to the list that way. 3.7 - Can I have the list owner or approval person be changeable without intervention from the Majordomo owner? Sure! Just make owner-listname and/or listname-approval be another majordomo list. (probably hidden, for simplicity's sake) 3.8 - What are all these different passwords? Think of three separate passwords: 1. A master password that can be used by both resend and majordomo contained in [listname].passwd. To be used by the master list manager when using writeconfig commands etc. This allows someone who handles a number of mailing lists all using the same password. This is also a "backup password" in case the .config file gets corrupted. 2. A password for the manager of this one list. The admin_passwd can be used by subsidiary majordomo list maintainers. 3. A password for those concerned with the list content (approve_passwd) This way the administration and moderation functions can be split. The original reason for maintaining [listname].passwd was to allow a new config file to be put in if the config file was trashed and the admin_password was obliterated, and may still be useful to allow a single password to be used for admin functions by the majordomo admin or some other "superadmin". Note that the admin passwd in the config file is not a file name, but the password itself. This is the only way that the list-maintainer could change the password since they wouldn't have access to the file. 3.9 - How do I tell majordomo to handle "get"-ing of binary files? Majordomo is not designed to be a general-purpose file-by-mail system. If you want to do anything more than trivial "get"-ing of text files (archives, etc) than you should get and install ftpmail. Majordomo has hooks to allow transparent access to files via ftpmail (see majordomo.cf). See the beginning of this FAQ for where to get ftpmail. 3.10 - How do I set up a moderated list? First, you need to tell Majordomo that the list is moderated. In the configuration file for the list, you set "moderated = yes". Do not try to use the now-deprecated "-A" option to resend. In fact you shouldn't be using ANY options to resend except "-h" and "-l", since all the others are handled in the config file. Any mail which is not "approved", gets bounced with "Approval required". If the moderator wishes to approve the message for the list, then you need to tag the message as "approved" and send it to the list. The "approve" script which comes with Majordomo does this for you. If you don't have access to "approve" (e.g. you're not on a UNIX system with Perl), you have to do it by hand. The easiest way is to forward the original message to the list, add the line "Approved: approval-password" to the very first line of the body, and then the entire contents of the original message. (meaning there should not be a blank line before and after the "Approved:" line.) 3.11 - How do I set up a digested version of a list? [ Modified from explanation given by jmb@kryten.atinc.com (Jonathan M. Bresler)] * Create aliases for the mailing list and the digest. See section 2.2 of the README for an example. * create an alias for the majordom(o) user, so that his cron generated mail comes to me, rather than just piling up in /usr/local/mail/majordom. * create the list's and the digest's files, (widget, widget-digest, widget.config, widget-digest.config, etc.). Edit the widget-digest.config file and make sure all the digest options are set to your tastes. * create the digest directory and archive directory. See FAQ section 2 on how to set permissions on all majordomo files and directories. You must have archives if you have digests so the digester can make the digest. You can purge the archive after the digest is generated. * Add yourself to both the mailing list and its digest so you can monitor what happens...at least for a while (not a bad idea to create a dummy user, and subscribe him to both the mailing list and its digest. This preserves a record of messages for debugging. Don't forget to remove this account and unsubscribe it after debugging.) * Optionally you may use cron to send a mkdigest to push out a digest at set intervals regardless of the number of queued messages. See the question Why aren't my digests going out?". 3.12 - How do I setup virtual majordomo domains? [From Alan Millar, et. al.] Set up a majordomo.cf file for each virtual domain, defining $whereami as appropriate. Use your mailer's virtual domain stuff to get to it, making an alias for it if necessary. For sendmail, be sure to check out http://www.sendmail.org/virtual-hosting.html first. Alias entry: majordomo-domain2: |/your/wrapper majordomo -C /your/domain2.cf Virtual domain stuff (in your virtusertable): majordomo@domain2 majordomo-domain2 majordomo-owner@domain2 whoever I use the sendmail virtual domain examples right off the Sendmail FAQ. Works for me. You'll need to modify request-answer slightly if you want the virtual host to be used there in replies. Look for: From: $list-request in the source and change it to: From: $list-request\@$whereami Don't forget to use the -C option to request-answer for your virutal aliases. Check out http://o2.towery.com/~eernestm/admin/majordomo/majorvirt.html also for good instructions on configuring virtual domains with Majordomo. _________________________________________________________________ Section 4: Mailer and list admininistration problems 4.1 - Address with blanks are being treated separately If a subscriber to the list is John Doe < jdoe@node.com> it gets treated these as the three addresses: John Doe < jdoe@node.com> [From Alan Millar] Majordomo does not treat these as three addresses. Apparently your mailer does. Remember that all Majordomo does is add and remove addresses from a list. Majordomo does not interpret the contents of the list for message distribution; the system mailer (such as sendmail) does. I'm using SMail3 instead of sendmail, and it has an alternative (read "stupid") view of how mixed angle-bracketed and non-angle-bracketed addresses should be interpreted. I found that putting a comma at the end of each line was effective to fix the problem, and I got to keep my comments. So I patched Majordomo to add the comma at the end of each address it writes to the list file. You can also change to "strip = yes" in the config file so that none of the addresses are angle-bracketed. 4.2 - Why aren't my digests going out? [from John Rouillard] echo mkdigest [digest-name] [digest-password] | mail majordomo@... This will force a digest to be created. Or you can set the max size in the digest list config file down low, and force automatic generation. 4.3 - Why do I get duplicate mail sent to the list? If you're running MMDF, read on: [From Gunther Anderson] Well, I can tell you what happened to me recently. We use MMDF here, which certainly colors the picture a little. What was happening here was that MMDF was verifying the validity of the whole mailing list before returning from the Submit call. The thing calling the Submit would time out and close, but the Submit itself would still be running somewhere. The calling routine would believe that the message had failed in its delivery, but the Submit would eventually succeed. The calling process would try again some time later. This, of course, is bad. The larger the list got, the more addresses there were to verify (verification was really just a DNS search on the target machine name), the more likely, under load, that the message would duplicate. We finally got so large, with so many international addresses (which seem to timeout on DNS queries much more ofen than US addresses) that we were always duplicating. Infinitely (until I killed the original submitter). The solution for us was MMDF-specific. We used a different channel for submission and delivery, one which deliberately doesn't verify the addresses before accepting a job. We used the list-processor channel, and only had to check that the listname-request name was set properly, because list-processor insists on making listname-request the envelope "From " header name. If you're running Sendmail, this is more rare. There have been unconfirmed reports that on some systems having the queue process interval set too short can cause problems, even though sendmail is supposed to handle this. Workarounds are to increase your queue process interval (-q flag), or decrease the interval between queue checkpoints (OC flag in sendmail.cf). There have been many reports from Linux users complaining about duplicate mail. The problem seems to be that flock() under Linux is broken. This may be fixed in a future release, but for now in sendmail's conf.h in the #ifdef __linux__ section add a line #define HASFLOCK 0. There are also reports that some versions of the libc have problems, and that linking with the libresolv.a from a recent BIND version will work around the problem. [ Please let me know if you have any more information --ed ] 4.4 - How do I gate my list to and/or from a newsgroup? The easiest method is to use a program called newsgate. You can find it at ftp://ftp.isc.org/isc/inn/contrib/. Installation instructions are straightforward, it provides sample entires for your newsfeeds/sys file and aliases entries. The newsgate package includes news2mail and mail2news. 4.5 - How can I improve Majordomo's performance? Mail to list throughput Majordomo does very little except pass each message to the list through 'resend', and then pass it on to your mailer for distribution. Improving your mailer is the first step to improving speed of delivery of mail to the list. Upgrading your sendmail to version 8.x will improve things greatly, as this version has a lot of enhancements which use connections more efficiently. For most lists, this is enough. Majordomo itself doesn't use very much in the way of resources except perhaps memory. Adding more memory will help if your machine does a lot of paging during mail delivery. Using other mailers instead of sendmail like ZMailer has met with varying success. Exim can also be used (see http://www.exim.org/. qmail has been used with majordomo, and performance with either Exim or qmail I'm told generally will well exceed that of sendmail. At least qmail also is written in a far more secure way than sendmail (some would say paranoid). See http://www.qmail.org. The qmail site includes at least one way to get majordomo to work with qmail. Note that it is possible to get majordomo working under qmail without using the 'wrapper', which is a nice idea. Some majordomo-under-qmail solutions just involve qmail's sendmail emulation feature. For more info, see the Using Majordomo with qmail FAQ, written by Russ Allbery. If your lists are very large you may try installing bulk_mailer, by Keith Moore. It pre-sorts the list into chunks grouped by site, and passes the resulting chunks off to individual sendmail processes for delivery (see note next paragraph). Get it from ftp://cs.utk.edu/pub/moore/bulk_mailer/. It installs simply by replacing your usual -outgoing alias with (line wrapped for clarity): sample-outgoing: |"/path/to/bulk_mailer owner-sample@your.site /path/to/lists/sample" bulk_mailer has reportedly resulted in dramatic speedups in delivery times, on the order of several times faster. Note this works just as well on digested lists as well as normal lists. bulk_mailer did have one problem. Until version 1.3 it didn't understand parenthesized comments in addresses, resulting in incorrect sorting and reduced performance. Your list must be configured with strip=yes in the configuration file if you don't upgrade to 1.3. TLB is another package which is like bulk_mailer, but has other features. You can get it from ftp://ftp.hpc.uh.edu/pub/tlb/. The advantage of TLB is its greater configuration flexibility, and also the fact that it's possible with TLB to eliminate the -outgoing address, making configuration easier and lists more secure. The restrict_post list option with large lists can cause a significant slowdown in mail delivery, since resend has to do a sequential search through the subscription list for each mail sent to the list (to verify that the sender is subscribed to the list). Think twice about using this option with very large lists. Majordomo command processing Most of the improvements in this are are experimental and not widely available or not yet completed but scheduled for future releases. Some areas include: improvements in shlock.pl to use exponential backoffs to reduce contention and starvation of locks, using some sort of dbz-style database for subscription lists to speed up subscribe and unsubscribe commands, and changes in the configuration file system to allow faster parsing and faster execution of certain commands such as "lists". If you are interested in working on improvements in this area, join the majordomo-workers list mentioned above. If you make any specific patches or additions available, please let me know so I can add references to it here. 4.6 - How can I handle X.400 addresses? Majordomo by default treats addresses starting with "/" as "hostile", and won't let people subscribe. This is to prevent someone from subscribing a majordomo-owned filename to the list, and being able to write by sending mail to the list. Unfortunately, all X.400 addresses begin with a "/". See the $no_x400at and $no_true_x400 variables and the associated comments in the majordomo.cf. There is a reported bug in 1.94 - you may need to change both tests for these variables in majordomo.pl to put "main'" before them. Like this: if (!$main'no_x400at) { if (!$main'no_true_x400) { This is fixed in Majordomo 1.94.1 and higher. 4.7 - Why is the Subject of my messages missing? [from Dave Wolfe] But it's not. Oh, you probably mean "Why is the subject line of messages to my moderated list blank?" Because you didn't include any headers after the Approved: header in the body of the messages. Or you deleted them when you approved the bounced messages. When resend finds an Approved: header in the first line of the body, it throws away all the headers it's collected for the message and looks for more headers following the Approved: header (which is the format of a bounced message). So if you put the Approved: header in an original message (as opposed to a bounced message), you have to also fill in some headers to be sent out, such as Subject:, To:, and From:. See the file Doc/list-owner-info on the correct procedure(s) for approving mail with Majordomo. 4.8 - I'm getting mail from majordomo with "BOUNCE:" what do I do? How do I stop this? Whenever majordomo encounters mail to the list which it sees a problem with, it forwards it to person at the approval address to deal with manually. There are lots of reasons Majordomo does this. Majordomo will tell you why in the Subject of the message. Here's a list of the most common bounce reasons: An "Admin request" bounce means that the list is configured to filter out what it thinks are "administrivia" messages, and it thought that message was one. These are messages such as "subscribe" or "unsubscribe" or "help", which get sent to the list instead of majordomo. Lists generally have this turned on by default. If you don't like it, set "administrivia=no" in the list config file. If that doesn't work, check your aliases to make sure the "-s" option to resend isn't being used on that list. An "Approval required" bounce means that the list is moderated, and the message needs to be approved. (see section 3.10 of this FAQ) A "Message too long" bounce means that the message was longer than the "maxlength" setting in the list config file. If you get any of these bounces messages and you think the mail is OK to send to the list, you'll need to approve it. See the file Doc/list-owner-info on the correct procedure(s) for approving mail with Majordomo. It's also covered in section 3.10 of this FAQ. 4.9 - My list configuration doesn't seem to be working. If you changed your list configuration and the list doesn't seem to be behaving any differently, make sure that the list is being sent through "resend". See the installation documentation and section 3.1 of this FAQ on how to set up the aliases for the list correctly to pipe mail through "resend". Other things to check would be that the arguments to "resend" are only "-h", and "-l" (and perhaps "-C" if you use virtual domains). resend used to be configured with other command line flags to do things such as have moderated lists. However these flags override any config file settings, so remove them if they are present. All configuration should be done now through the config file. 4.10 - How do I set it up so that the originator of a message doesn't get a copy of his/her own message back? You can't. Sorry. The "metoo" setting in sendmail has no effect after a message is piped through an external program. Unless you're willing to give up piping messages through "resend", there's no way to stop this. 4.11 - With Smail or Exim, users subscribing to a list sometimes get mail sent before they subscribed [from Lazlo Nibble and Philip Hazel] This is due to the way Smail and Exim deliver mail. With sendmail, it expands its delivery list when the mail first arrives. If the list gets changed, the message will still get delivered to the original recipient list, since the original list is never referred to again. As sendmail delivers mail, it removes addresses from its expanded list as they get delivered. However Smail and Exim don't expand the list when the message is first queued. Instead as they go through the queue of pending messages to deliver, and maintain state on what addresses they have successfully delivered mail to and compare that with the current list contents. As long as the message is queued waiting for one or more addresses in the list, it will get sent to any new recipients whenever the queue gets processed next. This is rather unexpected for those used to sendmail's behavior. The advantage of smail and exim's approach is that if an address in your list is unreachable (or has a bad .forward file), you can change the list contents (or the .forward file) and the message will be delivered to the new address when the queue next gets processed. It won't deliver to the old, bad address. There really isn't an easy solution to this, but it's really not a serious problem. 4.12 - Majordomo doesn't seem to work with sendmail 8.9beta Several people have reported that sendmail 8.9beta apparently drops mail from majordomo lists. The new security features of sendmail don't allow :include: directories to be group writeable. Unfortunately, by default these directories are group writeable with Majordomo. The solution appears to be to add: O DontBlameSendmail=groupwritabledirpathsafe in your sendmail.cf and restart sendmail. This path is the path to the majordomo lists directory. I don't know if this will be there in 8.9final. I sure hope not. There are unconfirmed reports this may be fixed in later betas. From majordomo-users-owner Thu May 14 22:38:36 1998 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-970926-1) id WAA16210; Thu, 14 May 1998 22:32:33 -0700 (PDT) Received: from post.aecom.yu.edu (post.aecom.yu.edu [129.98.1.4]) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-980202-1) with ESMTP id WAA16203 for ; Thu, 14 May 1998 22:32:26 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (oantar@localhost) by post.aecom.yu.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id BAA15170; Fri, 15 May 1998 01:34:57 -0400 (EDT) Date: Fri, 15 May 1998 01:34:57 -0400 (EDT) From: Omar Antar X-Sender: oantar@post To: majordomo-users@greatcircle.com cc: Omar Antar Subject: how to make digest person able to post to regular list? Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk Dear List-Mates, I was wondering how does one set up a regular list so that person on the digest list can post freely to the regular list. I.e. persons on banjo-digest want to post onto banjo-net. Banjo-net is unmoderated and closed to banjo-net persons. I want to open it up to banjo-digest persons as well. How do I allow restrict_post open to two files? Thank you very much. Sincerely, Omar Antar From majordomo-users-owner Thu May 14 22:53:36 1998 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-970926-1) id WAA16667; Thu, 14 May 1998 22:51:33 -0700 (PDT) Received: from sina.hpc.uh.edu (Sina.HPC.UH.EDU [129.7.3.5]) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-980202-1) with ESMTP id WAA16660 for ; Thu, 14 May 1998 22:51:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from tibbs@localhost) by sina.hpc.uh.edu (8.7.3/8.7.3) id AAA13983; Fri, 15 May 1998 00:54:15 -0500 (CDT) To: Majordomo Mail List Subject: Re: Changing open list to auto list References: Mime-Version: 1.0 (generated by tm-edit 7.100) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII From: Jason L Tibbitts III Date: 15 May 1998 00:54:15 -0500 In-Reply-To: Patrick Wiseman's message of "Thu, 14 May 1998 22:17:03 -0400 (EDT)" Message-ID: Lines: 9 X-Mailer: Gnus v5.6.9/Emacs 19.34 Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk >>>>> "PW" == Patrick Wiseman writes: PW> I'm not sure why auto is even an option, as it seems pretty evil to me, PW> unless accompanied with "+confirm". There were days when the world was young, people were friendly and zubscribe bombs were unheard of. Things are different now. - J< From majordomo-users-owner Thu May 14 23:08:48 1998 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-970926-1) id WAA16786; Thu, 14 May 1998 22:56:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: from acunet.net ([208.203.130.2]) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-980202-1) with ESMTP id WAA16770 for ; Thu, 14 May 1998 22:56:15 -0700 (PDT) Received: from dominispc (xpool8.acunet.net [208.208.7.8]) by acunet.net (8.8.7/8.8.4) with SMTP id BAA13035 for ; Fri, 15 May 1998 01:58:44 -0400 (EDT) From: "Otis Gospodnetic" To: Subject: RE: how to make digest person able to post to regular list? Date: Fri, 15 May 1998 01:58:08 -0400 Message-ID: <000001bd7fc6$6f1ff760$0807d0d0@dominispc.acunet.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 In-Reply-To: Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk read your config file more carefully - you can specify more than one file in restrict_post directive, so just specify banjo-net and banjo-digest there. Otis -- eZines Database > -----Original Message----- > From: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM > [mailto:majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM]On Behalf Of Omar Antar > Sent: Friday, May 15, 1998 1:35 AM > To: majordomo-users@GreatCircle.COM > Cc: Omar Antar > Subject: how to make digest person able to post to regular list? > > > Dear List-Mates, > > I was wondering how does one set up a regular list so that person > on the digest list can post freely to the regular list. I.e. persons on > banjo-digest want to post onto banjo-net. Banjo-net is unmoderated and > closed to banjo-net persons. I want to open it up to banjo-digest persons > as well. How do I allow restrict_post open to two files? > > Thank you very much. > > Sincerely, > Omar Antar > > From majordomo-users-owner Thu May 14 23:53:42 1998 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-970926-1) id XAA17640; Thu, 14 May 1998 23:44:29 -0700 (PDT) Received: from neptune.pegasus.cranfield.ac.uk (neptune.pegasus.cranfield.ac.uk [138.250.1.185]) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-980202-1) with SMTP id XAA17615 for ; Thu, 14 May 1998 23:44:15 -0700 (PDT) Received: from annex-1-pt8.ccc.cranfield.ac.uk (arpad.thegreen.private) [138.250.1.231] (cc047) by neptune.pegasus.cranfield.ac.uk with smtp (Exim 1.82 #1) id 0yaE6l-0005Y7-00; Fri, 15 May 1998 07:36:43 +0100 Date: Fri, 15 May 1998 07:36:40 +0100 (BST) From: Jeffrey Goldberg X-Sender: cc047@arpad.thegreen.private Reply-To: Jeffrey Goldberg To: "John P. Donaldson" cc: Majordomo-Users@GreatCircle.COM Subject: Re: bounced messages with attachments? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Organization: Cranfield University Computer Centre MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk On Wed, 13 May 1998, John P. Donaldson wrote: > The problem I have is when I get the bounced message, the attachment has > been inserted into the body of the message as text. Is there anyway to > approve the message and have the email get sent to the list members with > the attachment appearing as an actual attachment rather than hexadecimal > characters spit out in the body of the message? The normal bounce approval mechanism should do the job, since the headers of the original message get preserved. If you don't interfere at all except to approve the message are you sure that you have a problem. -j -- Jeffrey Goldberg +44 (0)1234 750 111 x 2826 Cranfield Computer Centre FAX 751 814 J.Goldberg@Cranfield.ac.uk http://WWW.Cranfield.ac.uk/public/cc/cc047/ Relativism is the triumph of authority over truth, convention over justice. From majordomo-users-owner Fri May 15 00:01:52 1998 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-970926-1) id XAA17638; Thu, 14 May 1998 23:44:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: from neptune.pegasus.cranfield.ac.uk (neptune.pegasus.cranfield.ac.uk [138.250.1.185]) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-980202-1) with SMTP id XAA17613 for ; Thu, 14 May 1998 23:44:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: from annex-1-pt8.ccc.cranfield.ac.uk (arpad.thegreen.private) [138.250.1.231] (cc047) by neptune.pegasus.cranfield.ac.uk with smtp (Exim 1.82 #1) id 0yaEGS-0005am-00; Fri, 15 May 1998 07:46:45 +0100 Date: Fri, 15 May 1998 07:46:42 +0100 (BST) From: Jeffrey Goldberg X-Sender: cc047@arpad.thegreen.private Reply-To: Jeffrey Goldberg To: Chris Baker cc: Majordomo Mail List Subject: Re: Config File In-Reply-To: <35585A19.9B2570A4@interlink-inc.net> Message-ID: Organization: Cranfield University Computer Centre MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk You've got a line-wrap problem. On Tue, 12 May 1998, Chris Baker wrote: > Before: > # subscribe_policy [enum] (open) > /open;closed;auto;op Not really. Before should be # subscribe_policy [enum] (open) /open;closed;auto;op On one line. Comments are lines that have a '#' as their first non-whitespace character. You sent off a config with a line that began /open;closed;auto;op while that should have been on the line above (and part of the comment). > > Error Message: > > The new config file for hotblast was NOT accepted because: > unknown key | 238 You've got the same problem earlier in your file. > unknown key |/open;closed;auto;op| in file hotblast.new.config at line 263 And this is the one described above. > Now I and not sure what it is telling me. Also I would like to have a footer on the bottom of each post, how do I do that? Wow! You've got a mailer that hard wraps exactly where it shouldn't and doesn't wrap where it should! -j -- Jeffrey Goldberg +44 (0)1234 750 111 x 2826 Cranfield Computer Centre FAX 751 814 J.Goldberg@Cranfield.ac.uk http://WWW.Cranfield.ac.uk/public/cc/cc047/ Relativism is the triumph of authority over truth, convention over justice. From majordomo-users-owner Fri May 15 09:39:09 1998 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-970926-1) id JAA27528; Fri, 15 May 1998 09:27:10 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail.okbu.edu ([164.58.90.70]) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-980202-1) with SMTP id JAA27519 for ; Fri, 15 May 1998 09:26:56 -0700 (PDT) Received: from Computer_Center-Message_Server by mail.okbu.edu with Novell_GroupWise; Fri, 15 May 1998 11:31:58 -0500 Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise 5.2 Date: Fri, 15 May 1998 11:31:45 -0500 From: "Robby rufener" To: majordomo-users@greatcircle.com Subject: testing fails Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk When I attempt to run the following I get errors: ./wrapper config-test It gives me all sorts of erros, but most scroll off the screen so fast I = can=27t read what it is saying. Anyone know where the logfile is kept, or = how I can find that information out? I am running Majordomo 1.94.4 with redhat5.0 linux kernel 2.31 Thanks, Robby Rufener Network / Microcomputer Tech Oklahoma Baptist University 878-2386 From majordomo-users-owner Fri May 15 11:08:58 1998 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-970926-1) id LAA28807; Fri, 15 May 1998 11:04:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ns1.us.impsat.net (ns1.us.impsat.net [200.31.7.2]) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-980202-1) with ESMTP id LAA28800 for ; Fri, 15 May 1998 11:04:36 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ulises.us.impsat.net (trastabill@[208.28.42.147]) by ns1.us.impsat.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id OAA03042 for ; Fri, 15 May 1998 14:07:04 -0500 (EST) Received: by localhost with Microsoft MAPI; Fri, 15 May 1998 14:06:57 -0400 Message-ID: <01BD800A.B90CE420.tlynch@impsat.com> From: Tomas Lynch To: "'majordomo-users@greatcircle.com'" Subject: New kid in the block Date: Fri, 15 May 1998 14:06:56 -0400 Organization: ImpSat USA X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet E-mail/MAPI - 8.0.0.4211 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk Hi: I know that a lot of you are experimented majordomo programmers, my questions are very simple, and if you want I'm the roocky of the list. 1) I tried to setup the restrict_post but it does not work, everybody can send to my list mails, here it is what I have configured: Archive: list.config restrict_post = list Something else I need to restrict that? I've sendmail 8.8 2) The list list does not recognize my password, I set this": Archive: approve list password owner-list@impsat.com Archive: list.config admin_passwd = password list.admin approve_passwd = password list.pass I don't know why I cannot add users with the password. By the way, impsat.com is a Cw for us.impsat.net, could be this wrong? Thank you in advance, Tomas Lynch From majordomo-users-owner Fri May 15 11:53:38 1998 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-970926-1) id LAA29253; Fri, 15 May 1998 11:39:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail.okbu.edu ([164.58.90.70]) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-980202-1) with SMTP id LAA29246 for ; Fri, 15 May 1998 11:39:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: from Computer_Center-Message_Server by mail.okbu.edu with Novell_GroupWise; Fri, 15 May 1998 13:44:12 -0500 Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise 5.2 Date: Fri, 15 May 1998 13:44:03 -0500 From: "Robby rufener" To: majordomo-users@greatcircle.com Subject: Sending to majordomo fails Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk Ok, next problem 8=5E) I tried the following test in the majordomo install text file: echo =27lists=27 =7C mail majordomo worked without a hitch for 3 different logins. But, when I try to send a = message to majordomo over the internet with the lists command in the body = of the message, I get no reply. I can go to my box, login as majordomo, = and get the message through pine, but it doesn=27t automatically send me a = message back. Any suggestions? Thanks, Robby Rufener Network / Microcomputer Tech Oklahoma Baptist University 878-2386 From majordomo-users-owner Fri May 15 12:07:33 1998 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-970926-1) id LAA29359; Fri, 15 May 1998 11:51:53 -0700 (PDT) Received: from sina.hpc.uh.edu (Sina.HPC.UH.EDU [129.7.3.5]) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-980202-1) with ESMTP id LAA29352 for ; Fri, 15 May 1998 11:51:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from tibbs@localhost) by sina.hpc.uh.edu (8.7.3/8.7.3) id NAA25213; Fri, 15 May 1998 13:54:33 -0500 (CDT) To: "Robby rufener" Cc: majordomo-users@GreatCircle.COM Subject: Re: testing fails References: Mime-Version: 1.0 (generated by tm-edit 7.100) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII From: Jason L Tibbitts III Date: 15 May 1998 13:54:32 -0500 In-Reply-To: "Robby rufener"'s message of "Fri, 15 May 1998 11:31:45 -0500" Message-ID: Lines: 19 X-Mailer: Gnus v5.6.9/Emacs 19.34 Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk >>>>> "Rr" == Robby rufener writes: Rr> It gives me all sorts of erros, but most scroll off the screen so fast Rr> I can't read what it is saying. Then why not scroll back (most terminals have scrollback buffers), or, or redirect it to a file and look at the file? ./wrapper config-test > cf.log Note that if everything is OK, it will pause at the end asking you a question that you can't see about whether you want to mail registration information somewhere; just answer yes or no as appropriate. Then look at the cf.log file you just made. This is basic UNIX stuff; you might want to grab a book like Unix in a Nutshell by O'Reilly, or some other introductory text. - J< From majordomo-users-owner Fri May 15 12:25:13 1998 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-970926-1) id MAA29915; Fri, 15 May 1998 12:13:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: from firewall.globeset.com (firewall.globeset.com [207.239.133.67]) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-980202-1) with ESMTP id MAA29908 for ; Fri, 15 May 1998 12:13:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: from earth.globeset.com (earth.globeset.com [10.1.1.5]) by firewall.globeset.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id OAA07128; Fri, 15 May 1998 14:15:35 -0500 (CDT) Received: (from pug@localhost) by earth.globeset.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) id OAA28159; Fri, 15 May 1998 14:15:34 -0500 (CDT) Message-Id: <199805151915.OAA28159@earth.globeset.com> Subject: Majordomo and Sendmail 8.9... To: sendmail-beta@sendmail.org, majordomo-users@greatcircle.com, barr@cis.ohio-state.edu Date: Fri, 15 May 1998 14:15:34 -0500 (CDT) From: "Pug Bainter" X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.5 PL0b1] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk Good Morning, With the new security features of Sendmail 8.9.0 comes some problems, and I'm trying to figure out the best way to work around them. Sendmail 8.9.0 checks for group writable include files and group writable directories in the path to them. Since Majordomo installs with group writable include files, as well as a group writable include directory, I'm looking for a good solution. I can of course do: O DontBlameSendmail=groupwritableincludefilesafe,includefileingroupwritabledirpath but that leaves me open to possibly other misconfigured include files. I believe this gives me the minimum amount of exposure to problems though. This is as opposed to what the Majordomo FAQ lists which is: O DontBlameSendmail=groupwritabledirpathsafe which will apply to .forward files as well as include files if not alias files, map files, etc, as well. What I would like to be able to do is to make Majordomo non-group writable, but I don't want to risk this on a live system. Can it successfully be done without any problems? If it can not be successfully done, can we get it documented in the sendmail README in addition to the .forward files? I don't want list administrators and servers to suddenly have everything bouncing because of this additional security feature. This could be especially a problem if people test with servers that don't have majordomo installed so don't see the problems till too late. The sendmail README says to just remove the group writable to everything, but that seems like the easy answer when some programs assume it and may revert it back if it changes. Thanks for any and all help in this. Ciao, -- Richard "Pug" Bainter | GlobeSet, Inc. System & Network Admin. Manager | 1250 S. Capital of Tx Hwy, 1-300 pug@GlobeSet.com | pug@pug.net | Austin, TX 78746 Note: The views may not reflect my employers, or even my own for that matter. From majordomo-users-owner Fri May 15 13:08:38 1998 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-970926-1) id NAA00870; Fri, 15 May 1998 13:05:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: from atle.abc.se (atle.abc.se [192.36.170.16]) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-980202-1) with ESMTP id NAA00863 for ; Fri, 15 May 1998 13:05:33 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (m8698@localhost) by atle.abc.se (8.8.8+Sun/8.8.8) with SMTP id WAA09050; Fri, 15 May 1998 22:08:07 +0200 (MET DST) X-Authentication-Warning: atle.abc.se: m8698 owned process doing -bs Date: Fri, 15 May 1998 21:08:06 +0100 (MET) From: Mats Dufberg X-Sender: m8698@atle To: "John P. Donaldson" cc: Majordomo-Users@GreatCircle.COM Subject: Re: bounced messages with attachments? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk On Wed, 13 May 1998, John P. Donaldson wrote: > The problem I have is when I get the bounced message, the attachment has > been inserted into the body of the message as text. Is there anyway to > approve the message and have the email get sent to the list members with > the attachment appearing as an actual attachment rather than hexadecimal > characters spit out in the body of the message? Approving a message with an attachment should not be a problem as long as all headers are unchanged. Unfortunately, some mailprograms will break long lines. If yours do, you'll have to revert that change. If a header is longer than one physical line, the continuation lines have to begin with a white space. Insert a space if it's missing. Make sure that you do not insert any blank lines. Make sure that you put you approve header on the first line. Make sure that you do not put any empty line after the approve header. ----------------------------------------------------------------- Mats Dufberg Mats.Dufberg@abc.se From majordomo-users-owner Fri May 15 13:23:36 1998 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-970926-1) id NAA00944; Fri, 15 May 1998 13:10:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: from atle.abc.se (atle.abc.se [192.36.170.16]) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-980202-1) with ESMTP id NAA00934 for ; Fri, 15 May 1998 13:10:17 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (m8698@localhost) by atle.abc.se (8.8.8+Sun/8.8.8) with SMTP id WAA09090; Fri, 15 May 1998 22:12:49 +0200 (MET DST) X-Authentication-Warning: atle.abc.se: m8698 owned process doing -bs Date: Fri, 15 May 1998 21:12:48 +0100 (MET) From: Mats Dufberg X-Sender: m8698@atle To: Robby rufener cc: majordomo-users@GreatCircle.COM Subject: Re: Sending to majordomo fails In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk On Fri, 15 May 1998, Robby rufener wrote: > I tried the following test in the majordomo install text file: > echo 'lists' | mail majordomo > > worked without a hitch for 3 different logins. But, when I try to send a > message to majordomo over the internet with the lists command in the > body of the message, I get no reply. I can go to my box, login as > majordomo, and get the message through pine, but it doesn't > automatically send me a message back. Any suggestions? Have you restarted sendmail and done newaliases? ----------------------------------------------------------------- Mats Dufberg Mats.Dufberg@abc.se From majordomo-users-owner Fri May 15 13:53:52 1998 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-970926-1) id NAA01818; Fri, 15 May 1998 13:50:33 -0700 (PDT) Received: from dt050n33.san.rr.com (dt053nd2.san.rr.com [204.210.34.210]) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-980202-1) with ESMTP id NAA01793 for ; Fri, 15 May 1998 13:50:17 -0700 (PDT) Received: from dal.net (Studded@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by dt050n33.san.rr.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id NAA10929; Fri, 15 May 1998 13:52:50 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from Studded@dal.net) Message-ID: <355CAB21.E84E4BE4@dal.net> Date: Fri, 15 May 1998 13:52:49 -0700 From: Studded Organization: Triborough Bridge & Tunnel Authority X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.05 [en] (X11; I; FreeBSD 2.2.6-STABLE-0507 i386) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: major@tgci.com CC: majordomo-users@GreatCircle.COM Subject: Re: Taboo filtering is not consistant??? References: <199805121953.MAA04543@janeway.tgci.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 Just in case. :) Mary Fowler wrote: > > Greetings! > > I am finding that even though I have the following listed > > << END > remove > off > subscribe > subscribing > unsubscribe > removal > unsubscribing > email > address > change > delete > END > > in the taboo_headers and taboo_body in the config file, our list is > still getting messages with the taboo words in the subject header > and body. First off, I think you'd be better off just enabling the administrivia option and letting MD do the work for you. :) However if you really want to do this, check majordomo.cf for examples of how to properly set up the regexp's for your taboo stuff. Hint: /delete/i would work a lot better than delete. :) Good luck, Doug -- *** Chief Operations Officer, DALnet IRC network *** *** Proud designer and maintainer of the world's largest Internet *** Relay Chat server with 5,328 simultaneous connections. *** Try spider.dal.net on ports 6662-4 (Powered by FreeBSD) From majordomo-users-owner Fri May 15 14:16:14 1998 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-970926-1) id OAA02115; Fri, 15 May 1998 14:00:16 -0700 (PDT) Received: from bc.mountain.net (BC.Mountain.Net [198.77.1.35]) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-980202-1) with ESMTP id OAA02034 for ; Fri, 15 May 1998 14:00:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mountain.net (tec.Mountain.Net [198.77.1.37]) by bc.mountain.net (8.8.7/8.8.5) with ESMTP id RAA20701; Fri, 15 May 1998 17:02:43 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <355CACD7.AEC4FEDA@mountain.net> Date: Fri, 15 May 1998 17:00:08 -0400 From: Tim Connolly Organization: Mountain.Net, Inc. X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Tomas Lynch CC: "'majordomo-users@greatcircle.com'" Subject: Re: New kid in the block References: <01BD800A.B90CE420.tlynch@impsat.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk Tomas Lynch wrote: > 2) The list list does not recognize my password, I set this": > > Archive: approve > > list password owner-list@impsat.com try this (sent to majordomo): approve password subscribe listname email@address.here -- Tim Connolly tec@mountain.net MountainNet, Inc. -- (304) 594-9075 ext. 37 2816 Cranberry Square -- fax (304) 594-9088 Morgantown, WV 26505 -- If you sit down at a poker game and don't see a sucker, -- get up. You're the sucker. (Story of my life) From majordomo-users-owner Fri May 15 14:23:37 1998 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-970926-1) id OAA02408; Fri, 15 May 1998 14:11:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: from bc.mountain.net (BC.Mountain.Net [198.77.1.35]) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-980202-1) with ESMTP id OAA02388 for ; Fri, 15 May 1998 14:10:51 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mountain.net (tec.Mountain.Net [198.77.1.37]) by bc.mountain.net (8.8.7/8.8.5) with ESMTP id RAA21010 for ; Fri, 15 May 1998 17:13:51 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <355CAF74.D3318BD8@mountain.net> Date: Fri, 15 May 1998 17:11:16 -0400 From: Tim Connolly Organization: Mountain.Net, Inc. X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "majordomo-users@GreatCircle.COM" Subject: regex in "restrict_post =" Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk Is there a way I can say restrict_post = list, and use a regex like: tec@*.mountain.net ?? This way if I am logged into a server who is in the same domain, but not truly "mountain.net" I don't bounce messages ? -- Tim Connolly tec@mountain.net MountainNet, Inc. -- (304) 594-9075 ext. 37 2816 Cranberry Square -- fax (304) 594-9088 Morgantown, WV 26505 -- If you sit down at a poker game and don't see a sucker, -- get up. You're the sucker. (Story of my life) From majordomo-users-owner Fri May 15 14:26:23 1998 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-970926-1) id NAA01951; Fri, 15 May 1998 13:57:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail.challenger.org ([207.42.121.115]) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-980202-1) with SMTP id NAA01942 for ; Fri, 15 May 1998 13:56:58 -0700 (PDT) Message-id: X-UID: 000a3704 Date: Fri, 15 May 1998 17:02:43 -0400 Subject: Re(2): bounced messages with attachments? To: Mats.Dufberg@abc.se Cc: Majordomo-Users@GreatCircle.COM From: jdonaldson@challenger.org (John P. Donaldson) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk Mat, Thanks for your advise. It works now. I think my problem was I put a blank line after the approved header. I appreciate it. Thanks again, John ================================================ John Donaldson Webmaster Challenger Center for Space Science Education www.challenger.org jdonaldson@challenger.org phone: 703 683 9740 fax: 703 683 7546 ================================================ Mats.Dufberg@abc.se,Internet writes: >On Wed, 13 May 1998, John P. Donaldson wrote: > >> The problem I have is when I get the bounced message, the attachment >has >> been inserted into the body of the message as text. Is there anyway to >> approve the message and have the email get sent to the list members with >> the attachment appearing as an actual attachment rather than hexadecimal >> characters spit out in the body of the message? > >Approving a message with an attachment should not be a problem as long as >all headers are unchanged. Unfortunately, some mailprograms will break >long lines. If yours do, you'll have to revert that change. If a header is >longer than one physical line, the continuation lines have to begin with a >white space. Insert a space if it's missing. Make sure that you do not >insert any blank lines. Make sure that you put you approve header on the >first line. Make sure that you do not put any empty line after the approve >header. > > >----------------------------------------------------------------- >Mats Dufberg Mats.Dufberg@abc.se > From majordomo-users-owner Fri May 15 14:35:31 1998 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-970926-1) id OAA02283; Fri, 15 May 1998 14:06:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: from dt050n33.san.rr.com (dt053nd2.san.rr.com [204.210.34.210]) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-980202-1) with ESMTP id OAA02276 for ; Fri, 15 May 1998 14:06:50 -0700 (PDT) Received: from dal.net (Studded@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by dt050n33.san.rr.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id OAA11006 for ; Fri, 15 May 1998 14:09:31 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from Studded@dal.net) Message-ID: <355CAF0A.A3D3B5DF@dal.net> Date: Fri, 15 May 1998 14:09:30 -0700 From: Studded Organization: Triborough Bridge & Tunnel Authority X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.05 [en] (X11; I; FreeBSD 2.2.6-STABLE-0507 i386) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Majordomo Users Subject: Request for script help (/etc/aliases -> majordomo list) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk Greetings, :) I have a problem that I'm hoping I can get some assistance or guidance for. I have what has become an extremely meaty aliases file from which I need to extract a portion, extract the real addresses from the portion and use that list to periodically regenerate two majordomo mailing lists. I am starting with this: # Aliases file lots: ofstuff@different.sites # Subset of aliases that I need to work with person: foo@bar.com # more aliases unrelated to this project I can change the ordering of the aliases file if needed, that's not a problem. One small complication is that out of the large list extracted from the aliases file there is a subset which will also be subscribed to a seperate list, however if I could solve the basic problem I can deal with the subset problem by ordering the aliases. I want to extract the real addresses because we're dealing with several hundred addresses on a busy mail server and I am using bulk mailer to increase efficiency. Having examined my options it looks like either awk or perl is going to be my best bet here. Unfortunately my experience with either is limited, although I know bourne shell scripting well and have some experience with C. I'm not asking for someone to do it for me, however if someone has experience doing something similar I'd appreciate guidance. Even if it's just "don't waste your time with 'foo,' it won't work." :) Many thanks, Doug -- *** Chief Operations Officer, DALnet IRC network *** *** Proud designer and maintainer of the world's largest Internet *** Relay Chat server with 5,328 simultaneous connections. *** Try spider.dal.net on ports 6662-4 (Powered by FreeBSD) From majordomo-users-owner Fri May 15 14:53:36 1998 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-970926-1) id OAA03539; Fri, 15 May 1998 14:41:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ifi.uio.no (ifi.uio.no [129.240.64.2]) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-980202-1) with ESMTP id OAA03532 for ; Fri, 15 May 1998 14:41:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: from solva.ifi.uio.no (1368@solva.ifi.uio.no [129.240.64.20]) by ifi.uio.no (8.8.8/8.8.7/ifi0.2) with SMTP id XAA14761 for ; Fri, 15 May 1998 23:43:38 +0200 (MET DST) Received: (from thomasg@localhost) by solva.ifi.uio.no ; Fri, 15 May 1998 23:43:38 +0200 Date: Fri, 15 May 1998 23:43:36 +0200 From: Thomas Gramstad Reply-To: thomasg@ifi.uio.no To: majordomo-users@greatcircle.com Subject: Re: Spam that can bypass MajorDomo? In-Reply-To: Manar Hussain 's message of Thu, 14 May 1998 09:30:15 +0100 References: <199805131839.OAA19177@krusty.mint-tech.com> <199805131839.OAA19177@krusty.mint-tech.com> <3.0.5.32.19980514093015.009f2a20@stingray.ivision.co.uk> Message-ID: Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk > I would assume that he's referring to sending the message to > listname-outging@host.domain .. like > majordomo-users-outgoing@greatcircle.com and that bypasses any and > all checks for taboo headers and authority to post to lists. The impression I got from the original posting was that the spammer had discovered that by forging the From:-field to show the list-owner's name and address, the spammer was able to bypass the checks, posting spam in the list-owner's name. That would of course be technically possible. But wouldn't it also be illegal (fraud)? Thomas Gramstad thomasg@ifi.uio.no From majordomo-users-owner Fri May 15 16:08:37 1998 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-970926-1) id PAA04465; Fri, 15 May 1998 15:55:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: from sina.hpc.uh.edu (Sina.HPC.UH.EDU [129.7.3.5]) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-980202-1) with ESMTP id PAA04448 for ; Fri, 15 May 1998 15:54:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from tibbs@localhost) by sina.hpc.uh.edu (8.7.3/8.7.3) id RAA29209; Fri, 15 May 1998 17:56:59 -0500 (CDT) To: Tim Connolly Cc: "majordomo-users@GreatCircle.COM" Subject: Re: regex in "restrict_post =" References: <355CAF74.D3318BD8@mountain.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 (generated by tm-edit 7.100) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII From: Jason L Tibbitts III Date: 15 May 1998 17:56:59 -0500 In-Reply-To: Tim Connolly's message of "Fri, 15 May 1998 17:11:16 -0400" Message-ID: Lines: 9 X-Mailer: Gnus v5.6.9/Emacs 19.34 Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk >>>>> "TC" == Tim Connolly writes: TC> Is there a way I can say restrict_post = list, and use a regex like: TC> tec@*.mountain.net ?? No, you cannot. However, you can turn on the mungedomain setting, which does this for you. - J< From majordomo-users-owner Fri May 15 16:14:47 1998 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-970926-1) id QAA04597; Fri, 15 May 1998 16:03:16 -0700 (PDT) Received: from bc.mountain.net (BC.Mountain.Net [198.77.1.35]) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-980202-1) with ESMTP id QAA04590 for ; Fri, 15 May 1998 16:03:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mountain.net (tec.Mountain.Net [198.77.1.37]) by bc.mountain.net (8.8.7/8.8.5) with ESMTP id TAA23390; Fri, 15 May 1998 19:06:08 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <355CC9C4.4BFBE9F2@mountain.net> Date: Fri, 15 May 1998 19:03:32 -0400 From: Tim Connolly Organization: Mountain.Net, Inc. X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Jason L Tibbitts III CC: "majordomo-users@GreatCircle.COM" Subject: Re: regex in "restrict_post =" References: <355CAF74.D3318BD8@mountain.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk >From config_parse: munge domain = # is user@foo.com == user@host.foo.com how deep does this go? like which of these will get rejected if: munge-domain = yes subscriber is tec@mountain.net sent from: tec@jnos.tec.mountain.net tec@mountain.net tec@not.mountain.net Jason L Tibbitts III wrote: > >>>>> "TC" == Tim Connolly writes: > > TC> Is there a way I can say restrict_post = list, and use a regex like: > TC> tec@*.mountain.net ?? > > No, you cannot. However, you can turn on the mungedomain setting, which > does this for you. > > - J< -- Tim Connolly tec@mountain.net MountainNet, Inc. -- (304) 594-9075 ext. 37 2816 Cranberry Square -- fax (304) 594-9088 Morgantown, WV 26505 -- If you sit down at a poker game and don't see a sucker, -- get up. You're the sucker. (Story of my life) From majordomo-users-owner Fri May 15 16:21:04 1998 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-970926-1) id PAA04464; Fri, 15 May 1998 15:55:02 -0700 (PDT) Received: from sina.hpc.uh.edu (Sina.HPC.UH.EDU [129.7.3.5]) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-980202-1) with ESMTP id PAA04440 for ; Fri, 15 May 1998 15:52:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from tibbs@localhost) by sina.hpc.uh.edu (8.7.3/8.7.3) id RAA29202; Fri, 15 May 1998 17:55:46 -0500 (CDT) To: majordomo-users@GreatCircle.COM Subject: Re: Spam that can bypass MajorDomo? References: <199805131839.OAA19177@krusty.mint-tech.com> <199805131839.OAA19177@krusty.mint-tech.com> <3.0.5.32.19980514093015.009f2a20@stingray.ivision.co.uk> Mime-Version: 1.0 (generated by tm-edit 7.100) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII From: Jason L Tibbitts III Date: 15 May 1998 17:55:46 -0500 In-Reply-To: Thomas Gramstad's message of "Fri, 15 May 1998 23:43:36 +0200" Message-ID: Lines: 23 X-Mailer: Gnus v5.6.9/Emacs 19.34 Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk >>>>> "TG" == Thomas Gramstad writes: TG> The impression I got from the original posting was that the spammer had TG> discovered that by forging the From:-field to show the list-owner's TG> name and address, the spammer was able to bypass the checks, posting TG> spam in the list-owner's name. Of course, this works only for restrict_post-style semimoderation, not for true moderation. To bypass the latter, you really must have the password. TG> That would of course be technically possible. Trivial, actually. There isn't any easy away around it, short of cryptographically signing all message and having the list server verify the signature (possible, and essentially awaiting a good Perl cryptographic module) or requiring confirmation of all messages by the poster (which is possible with Majordomo2 alpha). The outgoing alias is still the most problematic hole, but it's only there if you don't do something about it. None of my lists have outgoing aliases, and I have EXPN and VRFY enabled. - J< From majordomo-users-owner Fri May 15 16:23:44 1998 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-970926-1) id QAA04655; Fri, 15 May 1998 16:09:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: from sina.hpc.uh.edu (Sina.HPC.UH.EDU [129.7.3.5]) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-980202-1) with ESMTP id QAA04648 for ; Fri, 15 May 1998 16:09:15 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from tibbs@localhost) by sina.hpc.uh.edu (8.7.3/8.7.3) id SAA29387; Fri, 15 May 1998 18:12:13 -0500 (CDT) To: Tim Connolly Cc: "majordomo-users@GreatCircle.COM" Subject: Re: regex in "restrict_post =" References: <355CAF74.D3318BD8@mountain.net> <355CC9C4.4BFBE9F2@mountain.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 (generated by tm-edit 7.100) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII From: Jason L Tibbitts III Date: 15 May 1998 18:12:12 -0500 In-Reply-To: Tim Connolly's message of "Fri, 15 May 1998 19:03:32 -0400" Message-ID: Lines: 9 X-Mailer: Gnus v5.6.9/Emacs 19.34 Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk >>>>> "TC" == Tim Connolly writes: TC> how deep does this go? I don't know, and it's not exactly clear from the code. I think it only cases if mountain.net occurs anywhere within the domain name. Why don't you try it and let us know? - J< From majordomo-users-owner Fri May 15 16:38:41 1998 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-970926-1) id QAA05433; Fri, 15 May 1998 16:28:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: from cheetah.it.wsu.edu (cheetah.it.wsu.edu [134.121.1.8]) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-980202-1) with ESMTP id QAA05426 for ; Fri, 15 May 1998 16:28:19 -0700 (PDT) Received: from tinat.hws.wsu.edu (tinat.hws.wsu.edu [134.121.224.101]) by cheetah.it.wsu.edu (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id QAA25289 for ; Fri, 15 May 1998 16:30:59 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <3.0.32.19980515162959.00745e00@mail.wsu.edu> X-Sender: tinat@mail.wsu.edu X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0 (32) Date: Fri, 15 May 1998 16:30:28 -0700 To: majordomo-users@GreatCircle.COM From: Tina Tindall Subject: Re: regex in "restrict_post =" Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk I'm having problems with this also. I have my munge set to yes.. glenncupit@msn.com is the address subscribed... but when he emails, his from is glenncupit@email.msn.com (sometimes) and it bounces... seems to be happening alot (I double-checked that munge was set right too). Any hints? At 07:03 PM 5/15/98 -0400, you wrote: >>From config_parse: >munge domain = ># is user@foo.com == user@host.foo.com >how deep does this go? >like which of these will get rejected if: >munge-domain = yes >subscriber is tec@mountain.net >sent from: >tec@jnos.tec.mountain.net >tec@mountain.net >tec@not.mountain.net From majordomo-users-owner Fri May 15 18:23:36 1998 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-970926-1) id SAA07030; Fri, 15 May 1998 18:10:54 -0700 (PDT) Received: from wakko.efn.org (wakko.efn.org [198.68.17.6]) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-980202-1) with ESMTP id SAA07019 for ; Fri, 15 May 1998 18:10:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: from gus (dip147.cs1.jb.com [206.100.175.147]) by wakko.efn.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id SAA28777; Fri, 15 May 1998 18:11:00 -0700 (PDT) From: "Eric Gus" To: "'Tomas Lynch'" Cc: Subject: RE: New kid in the block Date: Fri, 15 May 1998 18:22:48 -0700 Message-ID: <012f01bd8069$272b1c20$93af64ce@gus> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 In-Reply-To: <01BD800A.B90CE420.tlynch@impsat.com> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Importance: Normal Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk assuming current dir /usr/local/majordomo/lists/ listname.conf == restrict_post = listname.ok2post Create file: listname.ok2post (which contains the email addy's of the folks you wish to permit to post) .../lists/listname.ok2post user1@domain.org user2@domain.org etc... admin_passwd = thisismyadminpassword approve_passwd = thisismyapprovepassword ^put your real passwords there.... I think you get the picture.. :-) Gus Majordomo newbie, but learning quickly.. From majordomo-users-owner Sat May 16 15:38:37 1998 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-970926-1) id PAA26074; Sat, 16 May 1998 15:28:18 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ga-usa.com (ga-usa.com [192.41.54.202]) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-980202-1) with ESMTP id PAA26067 for ; Sat, 16 May 1998 15:28:11 -0700 (PDT) Received: from bubba1.ga-usa.com (sav-ga2-12.ix.netcom.com [205.184.8.76]) by ga-usa.com (8.8.5) id QAA25630; Sat, 16 May 1998 16:30:52 -0600 (MDT) Message-Id: X-Sender: dale@pop.ga-usa.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.0 Date: Sat, 16 May 1998 16:56:49 -0400 To: majordomo-users@GreatCircle.COM From: Dale Reagan Subject: Re: comments on a list concatinator script Cc: Christoph Doerbeck In-Reply-To: <199805142137.RAA23204@prospero.dma.isg.mot.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk At 05:37 PM 5/14/98 -0400, you wrote: I guess I missed something here. Would it not be simpler to just make an majordomo alias like: MasterList-Outgoing: :include:/path/to/mj/lists_directory/list1, /~path/list2,/~path/list3 ? :) Dale = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = == = = = = Ga-USA.Com Internet Services | http://www.Ga-USA.Com = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = == = = = = Dale E. Reagan | (912) 920-9299 or (912) 925-1818 Teacher/Consultant | Dale@Ga-USA.Com 109 Rose Dhu Rd., Savannah, GA 31419 USA From majordomo-users-owner Sun May 17 00:35:17 1998 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-970926-1) id AAA02348; Sun, 17 May 1998 00:22:38 -0700 (PDT) Received: (mcb@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-980202-1) id AAA02338 for majordomo-users@greatcircle.com; Sun, 17 May 1998 00:22:36 -0700 (PDT) Received: from its.super.net.pk (its.super.net.pk [203.130.2.7]) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-980202-1) with ESMTP id XAA17092 for ; Thu, 14 May 1998 23:06:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost by its.super.net.pk (8.7.5/8.6.12) with SMTP id LAA13238 for ; Fri, 15 May 1998 11:06:40 +0500 X-Authentication-Warning: its.super.net.pk: tm owned process doing -bs Date: Fri, 15 May 1998 11:06:40 +0500 (PKT) From: Tee Emm X-Sender: tm@its.super.net.pk To: majordomo-users@greatcircle.com Subject: Oxymoron's Patch against 1.94.4 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk Thanks you everyone for sending in many replies to my previous query regarding the incorporation of confirmation feature in majordomo version 1.94.3. I was told that 1.94.3 already have the confirm feature - checked it out and it worked. Thanks. However, the confirmation feature that comes with 1.94.3 is somewhat clumsy and many of you suggested that I should use the oxymoron's patch (www.waste.org) to incorporate a cleaner confirmation feature. However, the said patch works only with 1.94.1. I was wondering what kind of confirmation (the old one or the oxymoron's one) is built into 1.94.4 so that I could upgrade to the 1.94.4. Thanks in advance -- Tee Emm From majordomo-users-owner Sun May 17 00:40:26 1998 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-970926-1) id AAA02441; Sun, 17 May 1998 00:23:37 -0700 (PDT) Received: (mcb@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-980202-1) id AAA02431 for majordomo-users@greatcircle.com; Sun, 17 May 1998 00:23:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: from orion.Localaccess.com (orion.localaccess.com [206.64.48.2]) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-980202-1) with SMTP id RAA06346 for ; Fri, 15 May 1998 17:21:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [206.64.48.134] by orion.Localaccess.com (NTMail 3.02.13) with ESMTP id va314933 for ; Fri, 15 May 1998 17:25:59 -0700 Message-ID: <002201bd8060$c305e0c0$863040ce@default> From: "Mark and Esmeralda Lybrand" To: "Tim Connolly" Cc: Subject: Re: Message generated after 'subscribe' or 'unsubscribe' commands Date: Fri, 15 May 1998 17:22:49 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.2106.4 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk > I don't suppose you let majordomo create the config file for "newsletter" but >then simply copied "newsletter.config" to files: "circular.config" and >"es_tourbus.config" ???? Nope, I configured the lists by logging on as superuser and issuing a "makelist" command. Then I hacked the .config files so they had the attributes that I wanted and I changed the passwords as I felt that the default ones were most likely a security issue as they are just .admin Mark :) From majordomo-users-owner Sun May 17 00:44:36 1998 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-970926-1) id AAA02361; Sun, 17 May 1998 00:22:50 -0700 (PDT) Received: (mcb@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-980202-1) id AAA02351 for majordomo-users@greatcircle.com; Sun, 17 May 1998 00:22:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: from neptune.pegasus.cranfield.ac.uk (neptune.pegasus.cranfield.ac.uk [138.250.1.185]) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-980202-1) with SMTP id XAA17630 for ; Thu, 14 May 1998 23:44:19 -0700 (PDT) Received: from annex-1-pt8.ccc.cranfield.ac.uk (arpad.thegreen.private) [138.250.1.231] (cc047) by neptune.pegasus.cranfield.ac.uk with smtp (Exim 1.82 #1) id 0yaDzX-0005Y3-00; Fri, 15 May 1998 07:29:15 +0100 Date: Fri, 15 May 1998 07:29:13 +0100 (BST) From: Jeffrey Goldberg X-Sender: cc047@arpad.thegreen.private Reply-To: Jeffrey Goldberg To: major@tgci.com cc: majordomo-users@GreatCircle.COM Subject: Re: Taboo filtering is not consistant??? In-Reply-To: <199805121953.MAA04543@janeway.tgci.com> Message-ID: Organization: Cranfield University Computer Centre MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk On Tue, 12 May 1998, Mary Fowler wrote: > << END > remove > off > [...] END Please look at the info for list mangers guide which describes the regexes a little bit. you should have << END /remove/i /off/i By the way, much of the work you are doing with that filter can be done with the administrivia option (look in the config file). -j -- Jeffrey Goldberg +44 (0)1234 750 111 x 2826 Cranfield Computer Centre FAX 751 814 J.Goldberg@Cranfield.ac.uk http://WWW.Cranfield.ac.uk/public/cc/cc047/ Relativism is the triumph of authority over truth, convention over justice. From majordomo-users-owner Sun May 17 00:52:47 1998 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-970926-1) id AAA02415; Sun, 17 May 1998 00:23:23 -0700 (PDT) Received: (mcb@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-980202-1) id AAA02405 for majordomo-users@greatcircle.com; Sun, 17 May 1998 00:23:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: from atle.abc.se (atle.abc.se [192.36.170.16]) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-980202-1) with ESMTP id NAA00893 for ; Fri, 15 May 1998 13:07:37 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (m8698@localhost) by atle.abc.se (8.8.8+Sun/8.8.8) with SMTP id WAA09070; Fri, 15 May 1998 22:10:10 +0200 (MET DST) X-Authentication-Warning: atle.abc.se: m8698 owned process doing -bs Date: Fri, 15 May 1998 21:10:10 +0100 (MET) From: Mats Dufberg X-Sender: m8698@atle To: Andrew_Forkes@arzana.co.uk cc: majordomo-users@GreatCircle.COM Subject: Re: Help for an unsubscribe error In-Reply-To: <9805141423.AA03633@arzana.co.uk> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: MULTIPART/ALTERNATIVE; BOUNDARY=NeXT-Mail-975972538-6 Content-ID: Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk This message is in MIME format. The first part should be readable text, while the remaining parts are likely unreadable without MIME-aware tools. Send mail to mime@docserver.cac.washington.edu for more info. --NeXT-Mail-975972538-6 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=us-ascii Content-ID: On Thu, 14 May 1998 Andrew_Forkes@arzana.co.uk wrote: > MAJORDOMO ABORT (mj_majordomo)!! > > chown(115, 0, "/Users/majordom/Lists/folly.new"): Not owner Make sure that warpper is SUID, and usually owned by root. Make sure that all Majordomo files and directories are owned by the majordomo owner that you compiled into wrapper. ----------------------------------------------------------------- Mats Dufberg Mats.Dufberg@abc.se --NeXT-Mail-975972538-6-- From majordomo-users-owner Sun May 17 00:54:20 1998 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-970926-1) id AAA02428; Sun, 17 May 1998 00:23:30 -0700 (PDT) Received: (mcb@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-980202-1) id AAA02418 for majordomo-users@greatcircle.com; Sun, 17 May 1998 00:23:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: from bc.mountain.net (BC.Mountain.Net [198.77.1.35]) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-980202-1) with ESMTP id OAA02206 for ; Fri, 15 May 1998 14:04:48 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mountain.net (tec.Mountain.Net [198.77.1.37]) by bc.mountain.net (8.8.7/8.8.5) with ESMTP id RAA20862; Fri, 15 May 1998 17:07:47 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <355CAE07.6F91D9B3@mountain.net> Date: Fri, 15 May 1998 17:05:12 -0400 From: Tim Connolly Organization: Mountain.Net, Inc. X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Mark and Esmeralda Lybrand CC: majordomo-users@GreatCircle.COM Subject: Re: Message generated after 'subscribe' or 'unsubscribe' commands References: <007f01bd7ef6$01b2edc0$38972bd1@default> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk I don't suppose you let majordomo create the config file for "newsletter" but then simply copied "newsletter.config" to files: "circular.config" and "es_tourbus.config" ???? If so, delete "circular.config" and "es_tourbus.config" and let majordomo do the config work by sending a "lists" message to majordomo. Then go hack at it! Keep backups of the original config that majordomo made so you can "diff" it when you are done and see where you goofed up. Reasoning is, there is alot of "static" parameters in each config file. They just don't work right if you copy and hack at it. Or at least from my experience.... Good luck. Mark and Esmeralda Lybrand wrote: > I have multiple lists at one domain name. > > Subscribe and unsubscribe commands are working correctly, however there is an > aesthetic problem of the "succeeded" message saying that, for example, the > subscription "succeeded" to the first list. > > I have the following lists at the site: > > newsletter > circular > es_tourbus > > If I subscribe to either circular or es_tourbus the message comes back saying: > > Succeeded (to list newsletter) > > but the subscription will be correct nonetheless. > > Could anyone let me know what to do? > > Should I simply hack the majordomo source to remove the "(to list $deflist)" > part? > > I did a search of the archives and looked throught the FAQ, but was unable to > find the answer to my question. > > TIA, > > Mark -- Tim Connolly tec@mountain.net MountainNet, Inc. -- (304) 594-9075 ext. 37 2816 Cranberry Square -- fax (304) 594-9088 Morgantown, WV 26505 -- If you sit down at a poker game and don't see a sucker, -- get up. You're the sucker. (Story of my life) From majordomo-users-owner Sun May 17 00:55:36 1998 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-970926-1) id AAA02466; Sun, 17 May 1998 00:23:50 -0700 (PDT) Received: (mcb@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-980202-1) id AAA02458 for majordomo-users@greatcircle.com; Sun, 17 May 1998 00:23:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: from post.mail.demon.net (post-12.mail.demon.net [194.217.242.41]) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-980202-1) with SMTP id WAA09432 for ; Fri, 15 May 1998 22:02:53 -0700 (PDT) Received: from (arzana.co.uk) [158.152.11.185] by post.mail.demon.net with smtp (Exim 1.82 #2) id 0yaZA3-00026w-00; Sat, 16 May 1998 06:05:33 +0100 Received: by arzana.co.uk (NX5.67g/NX3.0M) id AA04847; Sat, 16 May 98 01:59:33 +0100 Message-Id: <9805160059.AA04847@arzana.co.uk> Mime-Version: 1.0 (NeXT Mail 4.2mach v148) Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=NeXT-Mail-1119412584-2 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Face: "DUA/H"BiYj%_*yvwAjLR?ycXwS|*3A/A"NqH4x9&Jbr6+tSCj!UL{aZ(nmNy$(s#S-L84 /%GY[_m/j*[6=N+\k7G[FhME}GRZ]k[Lv32S];%8Dm_KQC*'L?%8OnhZzAMVAgc).r0,xh fP_RYI[Z44Z!Q-PWa5u>@7!f{W9x]+V*)"#NJ5LQa/{ In-Reply-To: X-Nextstep-Mailer: Mail 4.2mach (Enhance 2.0b6) Received: by NeXT.Mailer (1.148) From: Andrew_Forkes@arzana.co.uk Date: Sat, 16 May 98 01:59:27 +0100 To: Mats Dufberg Subject: Re: Help for an unsubscribe error Cc: majordomo-users@GreatCircle.COM Reply-To: Andrew_Forkes@arzana.co.uk References: Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk --NeXT-Mail-1119412584-2 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Thanks Mat. It was the "wrapper" owner. It was owned by majordomo, I changed it to root - and it all works perfectly. Andrew > On Fri, 15 May 1998 Mats Dufberg wrote: > >On Thu, 14 May 1998 Andrew_Forkes@arzana.co.uk wrote: > > >> MAJORDOMO ABORT (mj_majordomo)!! > > > >chown(115, 0, "/Users/majordom/Lists/folly.new"): Not owner > > Make sure that warpper is SUID, and usually owned by root. Make sure that > all Majordomo files and directories are owned by the majordomo owner that > you compiled into wrapper. > --NeXT-Mail-1119412584-2 Content-Type: text/enriched; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Thanks Mat. It was the "wrapper" owner. It was owned by majordomo, I changed it to root - and it all works perfectly. Andrew > On Fri, 15 May 1998 Mats Dufberg wrote: > >On Thu, 14 May 1998 Andrew_Forkes@arzana.co.uk wrote: > > >> MAJORDOMO ABORT (mj_majordomo)!! > > > >chown(115, 0, "/Users/majordom/Lists/folly.new"): Not owner > > Make sure that warpper is SUID, and usually owned by root. Make sure that > all Majordomo files and directories are owned by the majordomo owner that > you compiled into wrapper. > --NeXT-Mail-1119412584-2-- From majordomo-users-owner Sun May 17 04:39:12 1998 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-970926-1) id EAA10158; Sun, 17 May 1998 04:35:55 -0700 (PDT) Received: from stingray.ivision.co.uk (stingray.ivision.co.uk [195.50.91.40]) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-980202-1) with SMTP id EAA10145 for ; Sun, 17 May 1998 04:35:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pretender.ivision.co.uk [195.50.91.43] by stingray.ivision.co.uk with smtp (Exim 1.62 #2) id 0yb1m4-0001dI-00; Sun, 17 May 1998 12:38:41 +0100 Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.19980517123738.00a5a100@stingray.ivision.co.uk> X-Sender: manarpop@stingray.ivision.co.uk X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.5 (32) Date: Sun, 17 May 1998 12:37:38 +0100 To: Tee Emm From: Manar Hussain Subject: Re: Oxymoron's Patch against 1.94.4 Cc: majordomo-users@greatcircle.com, julian@ivision.co.uk In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk At 11:06 15/05/98 +0500, Tee Emm wrote: > >Thanks you everyone for sending in many replies to my previous query >regarding the incorporation of confirmation feature in majordomo version >1.94.3. I was told that 1.94.3 already have the confirm feature - checked >it out and it worked. Thanks. > >However, the confirmation feature that comes with 1.94.3 is somewhat >clumsy and many of you suggested that I should use the oxymoron's patch >(www.waste.org) to incorporate a cleaner confirmation feature. However, >the said patch works only with 1.94.1. > >I was wondering what kind of confirmation (the old one or the oxymoron's >one) is built into 1.94.4 so that I could upgrade to the 1.94.4. The confirmation system is pretty much or exactly the same from .1 to .4 We've got a version of 1.94.4 with hand applied pathces for both the web based approval system in Majorcool and the oxymoron patch. Be happy to make a patch that does both available but it may be some hassle to provide a patch that only does the oxymorom patch ... Cheers, Manar From majordomo-users-owner Sun May 17 05:57:40 1998 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-970926-1) id FAA11080; Sun, 17 May 1998 05:40:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: from gsulaw.gsu.edu (gsulaw.Gsu.EDU [131.96.159.141]) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-980202-1) with ESMTP id FAA11073 for ; Sun, 17 May 1998 05:40:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (lawppw@localhost) by gsulaw.gsu.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id IAA16947 for ; Sun, 17 May 1998 08:43:10 -0400 Date: Sun, 17 May 1998 08:43:10 -0400 (EDT) From: Patrick Wiseman To: majordomo-users@GreatCircle.COM Subject: Re: Oxymoron's Patch against 1.94.4 In-Reply-To: <3.0.5.32.19980517123738.00a5a100@stingray.ivision.co.uk> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk On Sun, 17 May 1998, Manar Hussain wrote: :The confirmation system is pretty much or exactly the same from .1 to .4 The _system_ is the same, but the email to subscribers explaining how to use it is much improved in 1.94.4. Since installing .4, I've had _far_ fewer subscription problems. Patrick From majordomo-users-owner Sun May 17 07:23:37 1998 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-970926-1) id HAA12521; Sun, 17 May 1998 07:15:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mermaid.shore.net (mermaid.shore.net [207.244.124.6]) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-980202-1) with SMTP id HAA12512 for ; Sun, 17 May 1998 07:15:49 -0700 (PDT) Received: from smoe.org [204.167.97.154] (jeffw) by mermaid.shore.net with esmtp (Exim) id 0yb4Gz-0004bb-00; Sun, 17 May 1998 10:18:45 -0400 Received: (from jeffw@localhost) by smoe.org (8.8.7/8.8.7/daemon-mode-relay2) id KAA25022; Sun, 17 May 1998 10:21:32 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <19980517102131.Q1043@smoe.org> Date: Sun, 17 May 1998 10:21:31 -0400 From: Jeff Wasilko To: Tee Emm Cc: majordomo-users@greatcircle.com Subject: Re: Oxymoron's Patch against 1.94.4 Mail-Followup-To: Tee Emm , majordomo-users@greatcircle.com References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.91.1 In-Reply-To: ; from "Tee Emm" on Fri, May 15, 1998 at 11:06:40AM +0500 Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk On Fri, May 15, 1998 at 11:06:40AM +0500, Tee Emm wrote: > > Thanks you everyone for sending in many replies to my previous query > regarding the incorporation of confirmation feature in majordomo version > 1.94.3. I was told that 1.94.3 already have the confirm feature - checked > it out and it worked. Thanks. > > However, the confirmation feature that comes with 1.94.3 is somewhat > clumsy and many of you suggested that I should use the oxymoron's patch > (www.waste.org) to incorporate a cleaner confirmation feature. However, > the said patch works only with 1.94.1. > > I was wondering what kind of confirmation (the old one or the oxymoron's > one) is built into 1.94.4 so that I could upgrade to the 1.94.4. I have a version of Oxymoron's patch that will apply against 1.94.4. I don't have it available for public use now, but I'd be glad to package it up later today and put it on my web site. I've been using it (with 1.94.4) for a few months with no problems.... Jeff From majordomo-users-owner Sun May 17 12:54:33 1998 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-970926-1) id MAA17735; Sun, 17 May 1998 12:48:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: (mcb@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-980202-1) id MAA17725 for majordomo-users@greatcircle.com; Sun, 17 May 1998 12:48:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: from batman.teqcorp.com.mx ([200.23.140.17]) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-980202-1) with ESMTP id KAA22575 for ; Sat, 16 May 1998 10:29:58 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (kiyoshi@localhost) by batman.teqcorp.com.mx (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id MAA27207 for ; Sat, 16 May 1998 12:37:28 -0500 Date: Sat, 16 May 1998 12:37:28 -0500 (CDT) From: Kiyoshi Ueda To: majordomo-users@greatcircle.com Subject: Re: MAJORDOMO ABORT (mj_majordomo) In-Reply-To: <199805160036.TAA00365@batman.teqcorp.com.mx> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk hi all... i'm new on this... i install majordomo on a redhat 4.2machine,and when i want to signoff i got this error.. how can i fix it?? On Fri, 15 May 1998 Majordomo@teqcorp.com.mx wrote: > -- > > > MAJORDOMO ABORT (mj_majordomo)!! > > chown(0, 0, "/usr/majordomo/lists/swfcslp.new"): Operation not permitted > thank you very much in advance!! --------------------------------- A. Kiyoshi Ueda I. WebMaster Acceso INTERactivo kiyoshi@teqcorp.com.mx http://www.teqcorp.com.mx tel. (48)11 88 69 --------------------------------- From majordomo-users-owner Mon May 18 04:53:38 1998 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-970926-1) id EAA03559; Mon, 18 May 1998 04:47:50 -0700 (PDT) Received: from stio1.fh-wuerzburg.de (stio1.fh-wuerzburg.de [193.174.80.12]) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-980202-1) with ESMTP id EAA03552 for ; Mon, 18 May 1998 04:47:41 -0700 (PDT) Received: by stio1.fh-wuerzburg.de; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/26Aug94-1034AM) id NAA06450; Mon, 18 May 1998 13:50:38 +0200 (MET DST) Date: Mon, 18 May 1998 13:50:38 +0200 (MET DST) From: Stegerwald Frank To: majordomo-users@greatcircle.com Subject: Create and Delete with MAJORCOOL Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk When I want to create and delete lists as the administrator via majorcool over the www, I have to specify programms during the installation of majorcool, which handle these operations. Which programms should I use for this. THANX, Frank From majordomo-users-owner Mon May 18 08:10:42 1998 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-970926-1) id HAA06791; Mon, 18 May 1998 07:57:30 -0700 (PDT) Received: from dirc.bris.ac.uk (dirc.bris.ac.uk [137.222.10.51]) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-980202-1) with SMTP id HAA06784 for ; Mon, 18 May 1998 07:57:22 -0700 (PDT) Received: from rjh.cse.bris.ac.uk by dirc.bris.ac.uk with SMTP-PRIV (PP); Mon, 18 May 1998 16:00:22 +0100 From: Richard Hopkins To: Majordomo-Users@GreatCircle.COM Subject: MajorCool (1.3.0) truncating restrict_post on modify Message-ID: Date: Mon, 18 May 1998 16:00:26 +0100 (BST) X-Mailer: Simeon for Windows Version 4.1.5 Build (43) X-Authentication: IMSP MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk MajorCool (version 1.3.0) seems to truncate long "restrict_post" values, unexpectedly, when you use it to modify list configurations. (Only happens if you actually modify restrict_post; no problems if you modify other things.) >From a quick peek at the code, it looks to me like it should cater for input of up to 128 characters, but it seems to truncate to something less than 80 before writing out the config file. No warnings/errors are shown. Richard Hopkins, Computing Service, University of Bristol, Bristol, BS8 1UD, UK Tel +44 117 928 7859, Fax +44 117 929 1576 RFC-822: Richard.Hopkins@bristol.ac.uk X.400: G=Richard;S=Hopkins;O=Bristol;P=UK.AC;C=GB From majordomo-users-owner Mon May 18 08:55:58 1998 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-970926-1) id IAA07704; Mon, 18 May 1998 08:38:54 -0700 (PDT) Received: from indicus.vet.ufmg.br (indicus.vet.ufmg.br [150.164.122.2]) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-980202-1) with SMTP id IAA07695 for ; Mon, 18 May 1998 08:38:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost by indicus.vet.ufmg.br (AIX 4.1/UCB 5.64/4.03) id AA22992; Mon, 18 May 1998 12:40:54 -0200 Date: Mon, 18 May 1998 12:40:54 -0200 (GRNLNDDT) From: Administrador Majordomo To: majordomo-users@greatcircle.com Subject: UID Problems.... In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk Hi ALL, This is my frist time in list. I've trying to install majordomo 1.9.4 , but I've some problems yet. I Installed majordomo in /home2/admlistas/major-program/majordomo-1.94.4 The owner is a user called admlista from admlista group. When I send a message to majordomo@myhost , trying to subscribe my acount (cantidio@myhost) I recieve a message saying that I can't write in /home2/admlistas/major-program/majordomo-1.94.4. The majordomo man explain that I must put chmod 755 in directories and chmod 644 to files..... I did. What I'm doing wrong ? Thanks in advance Cantidio Lelis Pereira - Universidade Federal de Minas Gerais - Brazil From majordomo-users-owner Mon May 18 09:54:01 1998 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-970926-1) id JAA08775; Mon, 18 May 1998 09:50:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: from rose.ny.cantor.com (rose.cantor.com [198.80.21.33]) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-980202-1) with SMTP id JAA08763 for ; Mon, 18 May 1998 09:49:52 -0700 (PDT) From: dave_thomson@cantor.com Received: by rose.ny.cantor.com (8.6.9) id MAA17282; Mon, 18 May 1998 12:52:36 -0400 Received: from nysmtp01.ny.cantor.com(148.106.77.80) by rose.ny.cantor.com via smap (V1.3) id sma017195; Mon May 18 12:52:23 1998 Received: from ccMail by cantor.com (ccMail Link to SMTP R8.11.00.3) id AA895508461; Mon, 18 May 98 12:52:35 -0500 Message-Id: <9805188955.AA895508461@cantor.com> X-Mailer: ccMail Link to SMTP R8.11.00.3 Date: Mon, 18 May 98 12:20:43 -0500 To: Subject: sending preapproved messages from cc:mail MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk Hi, I have a problem with sending a preapproved message from cc:mail to a majordomo list. When I send a preapproved message from unix mail on a different unix box, they all work fine. When I try and send a preapproved message from cc:mail, it just disappears. I have send the same message to another userid on the same machine as majordomo and looked at the message and it appears to be ok. I also sent an unapproved message to majordomo and it sucessfully bounced to the moderator. So the problem is only with preapproved messages from cc:mail. It is very perplexing. Any help would be appreciated. dave_thomson@cantor.com From majordomo-users-owner Mon May 18 13:53:56 1998 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-970926-1) id NAA12010; Mon, 18 May 1998 13:39:15 -0700 (PDT) Received: from backup.nashbar.com ([12.4.177.8]) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-980202-1) with ESMTP id NAA12003 for ; Mon, 18 May 1998 13:39:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: from sl.nashbar.com ([12.4.177.70]) by backup.nashbar.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id QAA18404 for ; Mon, 18 May 1998 16:44:33 -0400 Reply-To: From: "Stephen Labedz" To: Subject: on behalf of?!?! Date: Mon, 18 May 1998 16:44:37 -0400 Message-ID: <002701bd829d$c5f228e0$46b1040c@sl.nashbar.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk How can I get Majordomo to not include "on behalf of" in the from: field? ie. When I send mail to my list I would like to only include the list owner, for the from field. Currently it sends mail like the following: from: owner-@domain.com on behalf of my-email@my.domain.com to: listname@domain.com subject: subject I would like it to just respond: from: owner-@domain.com to: listname@domain.com subject: subject Thanks in advance, Stephen Labedz From majordomo-users-owner Mon May 18 14:25:18 1998 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-970926-1) id OAA12842; Mon, 18 May 1998 14:19:16 -0700 (PDT) Received: from prescienttech.com (londo.prescienttech.com [199.103.216.62]) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-980202-1) with ESMTP id OAA12835 for ; Mon, 18 May 1998 14:19:10 -0700 (PDT) Received: from gkar.prescienttech.com. (gkar.prescienttech.com [111.17.19.1]) by prescienttech.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id RAA13682 for ; Mon, 18 May 1998 17:22:18 -0400 From: Rich Pieri To: majordomo-users@greatcircle.com Subject: Re: on behalf of?!?! References: <002701bd829d$c5f228e0$46b1040c@sl.nashbar.com> X-No-Archive: yes Mail-Copies-To: never Date: 18 May 1998 17:22:18 -0400 In-Reply-To: "Stephen Labedz"'s message of "Mon, 18 May 1998 16:44:37 -0400" Message-ID: Lines: 25 X-Mailer: Gnus v5.6.9/Emacs 19.34 Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Stephen Labedz writes: > How can I get Majordomo to not include "on behalf of" in the from: field? Install an MTA that does not do stupid, brain-dead things like inserting that kind of garbage in headers, because it is not Majordomo doing this. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 4.0 Business Edition Charset: noconv iQCVAwUBNWCmhJ6VRH7BJMxHAQElZQP/UWBTrSu3NRaA9F4S9EcHJ0CX8IHPaRQZ XCHJQ3oe3M1czFWttO9YQOlqVOibxgCp8xq+LZfuG8flrIX1Y+wWECJFqCqIu1mb JYr3d/b8Ye2qqaXeWha05Lf9p/IFQM+JS0iffv9S2RJvjk7NqYZEBUgE5Rv5g+Vx vfhcGxB7MGI= =KcIh -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- Rich Pieri / When not in use, Happy Fun Ball Sysmonster, Unix Wrangler / should be returned to its special Prescient Technologies, Inc. / container and kept under I speak for myself, not PTI or SWEC / refrigeration. From majordomo-users-owner Mon May 18 14:38:44 1998 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-970926-1) id OAA13084; Mon, 18 May 1998 14:33:04 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ns1.us.impsat.net (ns1.us.impsat.net [200.31.7.2]) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-980202-1) with ESMTP id OAA13076 for ; Mon, 18 May 1998 14:32:54 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ulises.us.impsat.net ([208.28.42.141]) by ns1.us.impsat.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id RAA06566 for ; Mon, 18 May 1998 17:36:33 -0500 (EST) Received: by localhost with Microsoft MAPI; Mon, 18 May 1998 17:36:01 -0400 Message-ID: <01BD8283.6CE4C2E0.tlynch@impsat.com> From: Tomas Lynch To: "Majordomo-Users@GreatCircle.COM" Subject: RE: on behalf of?!?! Date: Mon, 18 May 1998 17:36:00 -0400 Organization: ImpSat USA X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet E-mail/MAPI - 8.0.0.4211 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk are you using Microsoft Outlook? or in your Unix appears this? -----Original Message----- From: Stephen Labedz [SMTP:sl@nashbar.com] Sent: Monday, May 18, 1998 4:45 PM To: Majordomo-Users@GreatCircle.COM Subject: on behalf of?!?! How can I get Majordomo to not include "on behalf of" in the from: field? ie. When I send mail to my list I would like to only include the list owner, for the from field. Currently it sends mail like the following: from: owner-@domain.com on behalf of my-email@my.domain.com to: listname@domain.com subject: subject I would like it to just respond: from: owner-@domain.com to: listname@domain.com subject: subject Thanks in advance, Stephen Labedz From majordomo-users-owner Mon May 18 17:54:32 1998 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-970926-1) id RAA16133; Mon, 18 May 1998 17:52:11 -0700 (PDT) Received: from gsulaw.gsu.edu (gsulaw.Gsu.EDU [131.96.159.141]) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-980202-1) with ESMTP id RAA16126 for ; Mon, 18 May 1998 17:52:06 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (lawppw@localhost) by gsulaw.gsu.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id UAA12752; Mon, 18 May 1998 20:55:15 -0400 Date: Mon, 18 May 1998 20:55:15 -0400 (EDT) From: Patrick Wiseman To: Stephen Labedz cc: Majordomo-Users@GreatCircle.COM Subject: Re: on behalf of?!?! In-Reply-To: <002701bd829d$c5f228e0$46b1040c@sl.nashbar.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 That's your problem. Majordomo has nothing whatever to do with it. (I realise this reply is redundant of others, but sometimes the truth bears repeating.) Patrick On Mon, 18 May 1998, Stephen Labedz wrote: :How can I get Majordomo to not include "on behalf of" in the from: field? From majordomo-users-owner Mon May 18 20:08:37 1998 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-970926-1) id TAA17785; Mon, 18 May 1998 19:58:38 -0700 (PDT) Received: from halachmi.net (dartboard.halachmi.net [207.234.66.6]) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-980202-1) with ESMTP id TAA17777 for ; Mon, 18 May 1998 19:58:23 -0700 (PDT) Received: from halachmi.net (halachmi.net [207.234.66.6]) by halachmi.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id WAA03798 for ; Mon, 18 May 1998 22:01:31 -0500 (CDT) Date: Mon, 18 May 1998 22:01:31 -0500 (CDT) From: Alan Halachmi To: majordomo-users@greatcircle.com Subject: Suggestions on large lists? Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk Does anyone have ideas on how to deal with lists of 10,000+? Thanks, Alan -- Alan Halachmi, Head of Internet Services| UNIX and Networking Consultant Solaris Administrator/ Web Design | Ingram Entertainment Network Services Montgomery Bell Academy | & mailto:alan@halachmi.net | SpeedServe, Inc. http://www.montgomerybell.com | http://www.speedserve.com From majordomo-users-owner Mon May 18 21:26:06 1998 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-970926-1) id VAA18891; Mon, 18 May 1998 21:08:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: from vorlon.mit.edu (VORLON.MIT.EDU [18.238.0.139]) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-980202-1) with ESMTP id VAA18884 for ; Mon, 18 May 1998 21:08:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from jered@localhost) by vorlon.mit.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) id AAA09317; Tue, 19 May 1998 00:11:43 -0400 To: Alan Halachmi Cc: majordomo-users@greatcircle.com Subject: Re: Suggestions on large lists? References: From: Jered J Floyd Date: 19 May 1998 00:11:42 -0400 In-Reply-To: Alan Halachmi's message of Mon, 18 May 1998 22:01:31 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: Lines: 9 X-Mailer: Gnus v5.4.52/XEmacs 20.2 Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk Alan Halachmi writes: > Does anyone have ideas on how to deal with lists of 10,000+? Could you elaborate on what you're asking? I use majordomo with sendmail + bulk_mailer, and have no problems with lists of that size. --Jered jered@mit.edu From majordomo-users-owner Tue May 19 00:39:08 1998 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-970926-1) id AAA21918; Tue, 19 May 1998 00:36:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: from stio1.fh-wuerzburg.de (stio1.fh-wuerzburg.de [193.174.80.12]) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-980202-1) with ESMTP id AAA21890 for ; Tue, 19 May 1998 00:34:53 -0700 (PDT) Received: by stio1.fh-wuerzburg.de; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/26Aug94-1034AM) id JAA19295; Tue, 19 May 1998 09:38:01 +0200 (MET DST) Date: Tue, 19 May 1998 09:38:01 +0200 (MET DST) From: Stegerwald Frank To: majordomo-users@greatcircle.com Subject: Owner not inserted in list.config file Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk Hello, when I create a new list and majordomo is creating the config file for me, I always have to insert the owner-address by hand, but I want major domo to fill it in. What do I make wrong ??? Thanx for the help (and for all the previous helps) From majordomo-users-owner Tue May 19 01:10:36 1998 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-970926-1) id AAA22323; Tue, 19 May 1998 00:59:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: from dirc.bris.ac.uk (dirc.bris.ac.uk [137.222.10.51]) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-980202-1) with SMTP id AAA22316 for ; Tue, 19 May 1998 00:59:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: from rjh.cse.bris.ac.uk by dirc.bris.ac.uk with SMTP-PRIV (PP); Tue, 19 May 1998 09:02:05 +0100 From: Richard Hopkins To: Bill Houle Cc: Majordomo-Users@GreatCircle.COM Subject: Re: MajorCool (1.3.0) truncating restrict_post on modify In-Reply-To: <199805190028.RAA15273@ncr-sd.SanDiegoCA.NCR.COM> Message-ID: Date: Tue, 19 May 1998 09:02:20 +0100 (BST) X-Mailer: Simeon for Windows Version 4.1.5 Build (43) X-Authentication: IMSP MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk On Mon, 18 May 1998 17:09:48 -0700 Bill Houle wrote: > At 04:00 PM 5/18/98 +0100, Richard Hopkins wrote: > >MajorCool (version 1.3.0) seems to truncate long "restrict_post" values, > >unexpectedly, when you use it to modify list configurations. (Only happens > >if you actually modify restrict_post; no problems if you modify other > >things.) > > > >From a quick peek at the code, it looks to me like it should cater for > >input of up to 128 characters, but it seems to truncate to something less > >than 80 before writing out the config file. No warnings/errors are shown. > > Can you go back and do a bit more debugging for me/us? I understand what > you are saying, except for one problem: MajorCool does not "write out" the > config file -- that is handled by Majordomo. It still could be possible > that MajorCool is handing a truncated version of the text to Majordomo, but > it could be just as likely that you have found a problem with Majordomo > itself rather than MajorCool... Sorry for not making that clear, earlier.... I think the problem is with MajorCool truncating somewhere along the line, as I don't get the problem when I use majordomo itself. For example, here's a restrict_post I set up with majordomo (using MajorCool to send me the config file, modifying the restrict_post value and then submitting the new config to majordomo by mail)... restrict_post = /users/majordomo/Lists/test-list cse-admin cse-cg cse-dsg cse-ig cse-mg cse-staff cse-syscomms (the above is a single line. Mail readers may well wrap it.) But here's what I get if I try to set the "long" restrict_post using MajorCool itself... restrict_post = /users/majordomo/Lists/test-list cse-admin cse-cg cse-dsg cse-ig cse-mg c (again, that's a single line) Is there anything else you'd like me to check out, Bill? Cheers, Richard From majordomo-users-owner Tue May 19 02:53:48 1998 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-970926-1) id CAA25314; Tue, 19 May 1998 02:41:53 -0700 (PDT) Received: from neptune.pegasus.cranfield.ac.uk (neptune.pegasus.cranfield.ac.uk [138.250.1.185]) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-980202-1) with SMTP id CAA25305 for ; Tue, 19 May 1998 02:41:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nassau.pegasus.cranfield.ac.uk [138.250.1.183] by neptune.pegasus.cranfield.ac.uk with smtp (Exim 1.82 #1) id 0ybiwl-00005M-00; Tue, 19 May 1998 10:44:35 +0100 Date: Tue, 19 May 1998 10:44:30 +0100 (BST) From: Jeffrey Goldberg X-Sender: cc047@nassau.pegasus.cranfield.ac.uk Reply-To: Jeffrey Goldberg To: Stephen Labedz cc: Majordomo-Users@GreatCircle.COM Subject: Re: on behalf of?!?! In-Reply-To: <002701bd829d$c5f228e0$46b1040c@sl.nashbar.com> Message-ID: Organization: Cranfield University Computer Centre MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk On Mon, 18 May 1998, Stephen Labedz wrote: > How can I get Majordomo to not include "on behalf of" in the from: field? > Currently it sends mail like the following: > > from: owner-@domain.com on behalf of my-email@my.domain.com What MTA are you using? Your MTA appears to be doing this in a response to the sendmail equivalent of an -f. It's your MTA you need to tinker with, not majordomo. -j -- Jeffrey Goldberg +44 (0)1234 750 111 x 2826 Cranfield Computer Centre FAX 751 814 J.Goldberg@Cranfield.ac.uk http://WWW.Cranfield.ac.uk/public/cc/cc047/ Relativism is the triumph of authority over truth, convention over justice. From majordomo-users-owner Tue May 19 05:43:31 1998 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-970926-1) id FAA00639; Tue, 19 May 1998 05:37:17 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail.cis.ohio-state.edu (mail.cis.ohio-state.edu [164.107.8.55]) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-980202-1) with SMTP id FAA00632 for ; Tue, 19 May 1998 05:37:11 -0700 (PDT) Received: from stumble.cis.ohio-state.edu (stumble.cis.ohio-state.edu [164.107.128.12]) by mail.cis.ohio-state.edu (8.6.7/8.6.4) with ESMTP id IAA18592 for ; Tue, 19 May 1998 08:40:05 -0400 Message-Id: <199805191240.IAA18592@mail.cis.ohio-state.edu> To: majordomo-users@GreatCircle.COM Subject: Re: Suggestions on large lists? In-reply-to: Your message of "Mon, 18 May 1998 22:01:31 CDT." Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Tue, 19 May 1998 08:40:05 -0400 From: Dave Barr Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk >Does anyone have ideas on how to deal with lists of 10,000+? The Majordomo FAQ does give several ideas. --Dave From majordomo-users-owner Tue May 19 13:26:27 1998 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-970926-1) id NAA07376; Tue, 19 May 1998 13:09:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: from bc.mountain.net (BC.Mountain.Net [198.77.1.35]) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-980202-1) with ESMTP id NAA07367 for ; Tue, 19 May 1998 13:09:29 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mountain.net (tec.Mountain.Net [198.77.1.37]) by bc.mountain.net (8.8.7/8.8.5) with ESMTP id QAA29813; Tue, 19 May 1998 16:12:47 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <3561E724.93FA7099@mountain.net> Date: Tue, 19 May 1998 16:10:12 -0400 From: Tim Connolly Organization: Mountain.Net, Inc. X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Stegerwald Frank CC: majordomo-users@GreatCircle.COM Subject: Re: Owner not inserted in list.config file References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk you could edit config_parse.pl to do that for you. Stegerwald Frank wrote: > Hello, > > when I create a new list and majordomo is creating the config file for > me, I always have to insert the owner-address by hand, but I want major > domo to fill it in. > > What do I make wrong ??? > > Thanx for the help (and for all the previous helps) -- Tim Connolly tec@mountain.net MountainNet, Inc. -- (304) 594-9075 ext. 37 2816 Cranberry Square -- fax (304) 594-9088 Morgantown, WV 26505 -- If you sit down at a poker game and don't see a sucker, -- get up. You're the sucker. (Story of my life) From majordomo-users-owner Tue May 19 14:24:36 1998 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-970926-1) id OAA08599; Tue, 19 May 1998 14:14:40 -0700 (PDT) Received: from dpi.state.nc.us (pedpims.dpi.state.nc.us [149.168.35.31]) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-980202-1) with SMTP id OAA08592 for ; Tue, 19 May 1998 14:14:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: from DPIMAIL-Message_Server by dpi.state.nc.us with Novell_GroupWise; Tue, 19 May 1998 17:16:58 -0400 Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise 4.1 Date: Tue, 19 May 1998 17:16:29 -0400 From: David Bank To: majordomo-users@GreatCircle.COM Subject: RETRY: Problem w/v1.9.4 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Disposition: inline Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk Hello the List. I'm running Majordomo v1.9.4 on a Sparc20 with Solaris v2.6 and Sendmail v8.6.8. I've been getting errors like this: --- Cut here --- MAJORDOMO ABORT (mj_majordomo)!! chmod(33200, "/etc/lists/toy.new"): Not owner --- Cut here --- I've checked majordomo, resend and wrapper for permissions. They look like this: -rwxr-xr-x 1 majordom listown 29516 Feb 6 21:15 resend* -rwsr-xr-x 1 root listown 8604 Feb 6 21:16 wrapper* -rwxr-xr-x 1 majordom listown 64247 Feb 6 21:15 majordomo* Here are the permissions on the actual List files: -rw-rw---- 1 majordom listown 5065 May 11 08:54 toy -rw-rw---- 1 majordom listown 16410 Feb 12 17:45 toy.config -rw-rw---- 1 majordom listown 4223 Feb 7 10:03 toy.info -rw-rw---- 1 majordom listown 0 May 3 11:28 toy.new 'majordom' is the UID under which Majordomo runs. 'listown' is the GID for all Mailing List Owners (and majordom is in the Group). When I run the config-test script, it reports everything is OK and sez Majordomo should run fine. What am I doing wrong? David Bank, Senior Network Engineer Public Schools of North Carolina, Department of Public Instruction Information Technology Services, Networking Technologies Division Network Support Services Section Voice: (919)715-2138 FAX: (919)715-2248 SMTP E-Mail: dbank@dpi.state.nc.us Attachments: MIME or UUENCODE, no HTML please Visit our SUPPORT@ DPI Web page at http://support.dpi.state.nc.us From majordomo-users-owner Tue May 19 19:15:01 1998 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-970926-1) id SAA13002; Tue, 19 May 1998 18:54:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: (mcb@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-980202-1) id SAA12992 for majordomo-users@greatcircle.com; Tue, 19 May 1998 18:54:44 -0700 (PDT) Received: from stio1.fh-wuerzburg.de (stio1.fh-wuerzburg.de [193.174.80.12]) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-980202-1) with ESMTP id EAA03582 for ; Mon, 18 May 1998 04:51:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: by stio1.fh-wuerzburg.de; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/26Aug94-1034AM) id NAA27994; Mon, 18 May 1998 13:54:45 +0200 (MET DST) Date: Mon, 18 May 1998 13:54:44 +0200 (MET DST) From: Stegerwald Frank To: majordomo-users@greatcircle.com Subject: Owner attribute Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk When I create a new list and send the "config listname listpasswd" to Majordomo, it sends me the listname.config file back, but it didn't insert owner-address. But I need this address in the config file when I want to subscribe to this list via Majorcool over the WWW. Please help me Thanx , Frank From majordomo-users-owner Tue May 19 19:23:37 1998 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-970926-1) id SAA13067; Tue, 19 May 1998 18:55:36 -0700 (PDT) Received: (mcb@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-980202-1) id SAA13055 for majordomo-users@greatcircle.com; Tue, 19 May 1998 18:55:33 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ncr-sd.SanDiegoCA.NCR.COM (h153-64-251-18.NCR.COM [153.64.251.18]) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-980202-1) with ESMTP id RAA15747 for ; Mon, 18 May 1998 17:25:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: from jabberwocky (jabberwocky.SanDiegoCA.NCR.COM [153.64.69.123]) by ncr-sd.SanDiegoCA.NCR.COM (8.8.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id RAA15263; Mon, 18 May 1998 17:28:22 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199805190028.RAA15263@ncr-sd.SanDiegoCA.NCR.COM> X-Sender: bhoule@www.sandiegoca.ncr.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.0.1 Date: Mon, 18 May 1998 17:05:51 -0700 To: Stegerwald Frank , majordomo-users@GreatCircle.COM From: Bill Houle Subject: Re: Create and Delete with MAJORCOOL In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk At 01:50 PM 5/18/98 +0200, Stegerwald Frank wrote: >When I want to create and delete lists as the >administrator via majorcool over the www, I >have to specify programms during the installation >of majorcool, which handle these operations. > >Which programms should I use for this. Did you look in contrib/? --bill From majordomo-users-owner Tue May 19 19:27:03 1998 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-970926-1) id SAA13162; Tue, 19 May 1998 18:56:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: (mcb@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-980202-1) id SAA13095 for majordomo-users@greatcircle.com; Tue, 19 May 1998 18:55:49 -0700 (PDT) Received: from krumm.commline.com ([209.36.239.51]) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-980202-1) with ESMTP id WAA20146 for ; Mon, 18 May 1998 22:21:49 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (dmbong@localhost) by krumm.commline.com (8.8.5/8.8.8) with SMTP id BAA07883; Tue, 19 May 1998 01:34:59 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from dmbong@commline.com) Date: Tue, 19 May 1998 01:34:58 -0400 (EDT) From: "Brian L. Heess" To: Patrick Wiseman cc: Stephen Labedz , Majordomo-Users@GreatCircle.COM Subject: Re: on behalf of?!?! In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk On Mon, 18 May 1998, Patrick Wiseman wrote: >> On Mon, 18 May 1998, Stephen Labedz wrote: >> :How can I get Majordomo to not include "on behalf of" in the >> from: field? > > X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 > > That's your problem. Majordomo has nothing whatever to do with it. Actually, I've written to all of my lists with OE (normally us Pine, here) and NEVER seen this. It's the MTA that appears to be doing it, or something between Majordomo and the MTA. Cheers! -Brian From majordomo-users-owner Tue May 19 19:35:26 1998 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-970926-1) id SAA13041; Tue, 19 May 1998 18:55:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: (mcb@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-980202-1) id SAA13032 for majordomo-users@greatcircle.com; Tue, 19 May 1998 18:55:10 -0700 (PDT) Received: from homer.libby.org (ns.libby.org [208.137.111.15]) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-980202-1) with ESMTP id OAA12477 for ; Mon, 18 May 1998 14:01:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: from B5100DPSCANLAN.MCFP.WAPA.GOV ([198.233.50.54]) by homer.libby.org (8.8.8/8.8.7) with SMTP id PAA03725 for ; Mon, 18 May 1998 15:04:30 -0600 (MDT) Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.19980518151007.0079a100@mail.libby.org> X-Sender: patti@mail.libby.org X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.5 (32) Date: Mon, 18 May 1998 15:10:07 -0600 To: majordomo-users@GreatCircle.COM From: Patti Scanlan Subject: Command Disabled Error In-Reply-To: References: <3.0.5.32.19980518125903.007a95a0@mail.libby.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk My service provider upgraded to majordomo-1.94.4 this past weekend, and moved our list to a new server. Since he did this (copying everything over including the config files, etc) I am unable to go a "who" command for my list. The error comes back and says Command Disabled. We have this set in our config as private who = yes.... which is the way it has always been, and we have never had problems before. Any ideas on what might have happened? Patti Scanlan From majordomo-users-owner Tue May 19 19:38:58 1998 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-970926-1) id SAA12957; Tue, 19 May 1998 18:53:50 -0700 (PDT) Received: (mcb@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-980202-1) id SAA12947 for majordomo-users@greatcircle.com; Tue, 19 May 1998 18:53:48 -0700 (PDT) Received: from Not.Mountain.Net (not.mountain.net [198.77.1.250]) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-980202-1) with ESMTP id MAA17784 for ; Sun, 17 May 1998 12:54:56 -0700 (PDT) Received: from jnos.tec.mountain.net (tec.Mountain.Net [198.77.1.37]) by Not.Mountain.Net (8.8.7/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA01675 for ; Sun, 17 May 1998 15:57:42 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <355F40AF.976738B8@jnos.tec.mountain.net> Date: Sun, 17 May 1998 15:55:28 -0400 From: Tim Connolly Organization: Mountain.Net, Inc. X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "majordomo-users@GreatCircle.COM" Subject: Bug report: maybe? Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk Munge domain is turned on for this list. tec@anyhost.mountain.net is subscribed to this list. Yet mail from tec@mountain.net is bounced... If I reverse those two and subscribe as tec@mountain.net and send mail as "tec@1.2.mountain.net" all seems normal. Is this a bug, an overlook, or have I missed a "reverse" munge domain option in the config file ? -- Tim Connolly tec@mountain.net MountainNet, Inc. -- (304) 594-9075 ext. 37 2816 Cranberry Square -- fax (304) 594-9088 Morgantown, WV 26505 -- If you sit down at a poker game and don't see a sucker, -- get up. You're the sucker. (Story of my life) From majordomo-users-owner Tue May 19 19:41:43 1998 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-970926-1) id SAA12989; Tue, 19 May 1998 18:54:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: (mcb@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-980202-1) id SAA12981 for majordomo-users@greatcircle.com; Tue, 19 May 1998 18:54:40 -0700 (PDT) Received: from haze.vcpc.univie.ac.at (haze.vcpc.univie.ac.at [131.130.186.138]) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-980202-1) with ESMTP id BAA27544 for ; Mon, 18 May 1998 01:11:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from smap@localhost) by haze.vcpc.univie.ac.at (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA23763 for ; Mon, 18 May 1998 10:14:07 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from beavis(131.130.186.142) by haze via smap (V2.0beta) id xma023749; Mon, 18 May 98 10:13:52 +0200 Received: from vcpc.univie.ac.at (tc@localhost) by beavis.vcpc.univie.ac.at (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id KAA10540 for ; Mon, 18 May 1998 10:13:51 +0200 (MET DST) Message-Id: <199805180813.KAA10540@beavis.vcpc.univie.ac.at> X-Authentication-Warning: beavis.vcpc.univie.ac.at: tc owned process doing -bs To: majordomo-users@greatcircle.com Subject: noadvertise set but list still appears X-Attribution: tony From: Tony.Curtis@vcpc.univie.ac.at Date: Mon, 18 May 1998 10:13:51 +0200 Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk Hi, I am having a problem with a couple of lists at my site. They are both set up with an empty "advertise" array and noadvertise as noadvertise << END /.*/ END but a "lists" command to majordomo still includes these lists in its output. Some other lists set up in the same way do *not* show up from "lists". I've tried writeconfig and newconfig without errors but these lists still appear. Can anyone help? (Solaris 2.5.1, Majordomo 1.94.4, perl 5.00404) thanks tony From majordomo-users-owner Tue May 19 19:45:15 1998 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-970926-1) id SAA13080; Tue, 19 May 1998 18:55:41 -0700 (PDT) Received: (mcb@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-980202-1) id SAA13070 for majordomo-users@greatcircle.com; Tue, 19 May 1998 18:55:37 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ncr-sd.SanDiegoCA.NCR.COM (h153-64-251-18.NCR.COM [153.64.251.18]) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-980202-1) with ESMTP id RAA15733 for ; Mon, 18 May 1998 17:25:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: from jabberwocky (jabberwocky.SanDiegoCA.NCR.COM [153.64.69.123]) by ncr-sd.SanDiegoCA.NCR.COM (8.8.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id RAA15273; Mon, 18 May 1998 17:28:24 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199805190028.RAA15273@ncr-sd.SanDiegoCA.NCR.COM> X-Sender: bhoule@www.sandiegoca.ncr.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.0.1 Date: Mon, 18 May 1998 17:09:48 -0700 To: Richard Hopkins , Majordomo-Users@GreatCircle.COM From: Bill Houle Subject: Re: MajorCool (1.3.0) truncating restrict_post on modify In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk At 04:00 PM 5/18/98 +0100, Richard Hopkins wrote: >MajorCool (version 1.3.0) seems to truncate long "restrict_post" values, >unexpectedly, when you use it to modify list configurations. (Only happens >if you actually modify restrict_post; no problems if you modify other >things.) > >From a quick peek at the code, it looks to me like it should cater for >input of up to 128 characters, but it seems to truncate to something less >than 80 before writing out the config file. No warnings/errors are shown. Can you go back and do a bit more debugging for me/us? I understand what you are saying, except for one problem: MajorCool does not "write out" the config file -- that is handled by Majordomo. It still could be possible that MajorCool is handing a truncated version of the text to Majordomo, but it could be just as likely that you have found a problem with Majordomo itself rather than MajorCool... --bill From majordomo-users-owner Tue May 19 19:48:21 1998 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-970926-1) id SAA13013; Tue, 19 May 1998 18:54:55 -0700 (PDT) Received: (mcb@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-980202-1) id SAA13005 for majordomo-users@greatcircle.com; Tue, 19 May 1998 18:54:50 -0700 (PDT) Received: from bc.mountain.net (BC.Mountain.Net [198.77.1.35]) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-980202-1) with ESMTP id GAA05213 for ; Mon, 18 May 1998 06:27:54 -0700 (PDT) Received: from jnos.tec.mountain.net (tec.Mountain.Net [198.77.1.37]) by bc.mountain.net (8.8.7/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA18439; Mon, 18 May 1998 09:31:08 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <35603767.C88D1CD8@jnos.tec.mountain.net> Date: Mon, 18 May 1998 09:28:07 -0400 From: Tim Connolly Organization: Mountain.Net, Inc. X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Tina Tindall CC: majordomo-users@GreatCircle.COM Subject: Re: regex in "restrict_post =" References: <3.0.32.19980515162959.00745e00@mail.wsu.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk Thats strange... In your case, my setup would allow mail from glenncupit@email.msn.com if glenncupit@msn.com is subscribed. I do have a fix for you though... Add another filename to the "restrict_post = " command. Make it something like "send.only" and stick glenncupit@email.msn.com in this file. Although the message will be sent to glenncupit@msn.com only, at least now majordomo will allow glenncupit@email.msn.com to send messages in also. Thanks - Tim Tina Tindall wrote: > I'm having problems with this also. I have my munge set to yes.. > > glenncupit@msn.com is the address subscribed... > > but when he emails, his from is glenncupit@email.msn.com (sometimes) and it > bounces... seems to be happening alot (I double-checked that munge was set > right too). > > Any hints? > > At 07:03 PM 5/15/98 -0400, you wrote: > >>From config_parse: > >munge domain = > ># is user@foo.com == user@host.foo.com > >how deep does this go? > >like which of these will get rejected if: > >munge-domain = yes > >subscriber is tec@mountain.net > >sent from: > >tec@jnos.tec.mountain.net > >tec@mountain.net > >tec@not.mountain.net -- Tim Connolly tec@mountain.net MountainNet, Inc. -- (304) 594-9075 ext. 37 2816 Cranberry Square -- fax (304) 594-9088 Morgantown, WV 26505 -- If you sit down at a poker game and don't see a sucker, -- get up. You're the sucker. (Story of my life) From majordomo-users-owner Tue May 19 20:08:44 1998 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-970926-1) id UAA15524; Tue, 19 May 1998 20:02:18 -0700 (PDT) Received: from technolust.net (technolust.net [192.41.29.64]) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-980202-1) with ESMTP id UAA15517 for ; Tue, 19 May 1998 20:02:11 -0700 (PDT) Received: from hero (ip1.usr1.usw.du.nwlink.com [209.20.133.1]) by technolust.net (8.8.5) id UAA17781; Tue, 19 May 1998 20:05:33 -0700 (PDT) From: "R.C. Mitchell" To: Subject: RE: on behalf of?!?! Date: Tue, 19 May 1998 20:06:17 -0700 Message-ID: <004401bd839c$58801dd0$0100a8c0@hero> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk Outlook Express doesn't do it. Just this one right here, Outlook 98 or 8.5 if you prefer. :) R.C. Mitchell >-----Original Message----- >From: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM >[mailto:majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM]On Behalf Of Brian L. >Heess >Sent: Monday, May 18, 1998 10:35 PM >To: Patrick Wiseman >Cc: Stephen Labedz; Majordomo-Users@GreatCircle.COM >Subject: Re: on behalf of?!?! > > >On Mon, 18 May 1998, Patrick Wiseman wrote: > >>> On Mon, 18 May 1998, Stephen Labedz wrote: >>> :How can I get Majordomo to not include "on behalf of" in the >>> from: field? >> >> X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 >> >> That's your problem. Majordomo has nothing whatever to do with it. > >Actually, I've written to all of my lists with OE (normally us >Pine, here) >and NEVER seen this. It's the MTA that appears to be doing it, or >something between Majordomo and the MTA. > >Cheers! > >-Brian > > > From majordomo-users-owner Tue May 19 20:53:37 1998 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-970926-1) id UAA16144; Tue, 19 May 1998 20:51:41 -0700 (PDT) Received: from sina.hpc.uh.edu (Sina.HPC.UH.EDU [129.7.3.5]) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-980202-1) with ESMTP id UAA16137 for ; Tue, 19 May 1998 20:51:35 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from tibbs@localhost) by sina.hpc.uh.edu (8.7.3/8.7.3) id WAA18626; Tue, 19 May 1998 22:55:16 -0500 (CDT) To: Tim Connolly Cc: "majordomo-users@GreatCircle.COM" Subject: Re: Bug report: maybe? References: <355F40AF.976738B8@jnos.tec.mountain.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 (generated by tm-edit 7.100) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII From: Jason L Tibbitts III Date: 19 May 1998 22:55:16 -0500 In-Reply-To: Tim Connolly's message of "Sun, 17 May 1998 15:55:28 -0400" Message-ID: Lines: 10 X-Mailer: Gnus v5.6.9/Emacs 19.34 Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk >>>>> "TC" == Tim Connolly writes: TC> Munge domain is turned on for this list. tec@anyhost.mountain.net TC> is zubscribed to this list. Yet mail from tec@mountain.net is TC> bounced... Correct. The short form should be on the list; the long forms will be compared as being equivalent to it. - J< From majordomo-users-owner Tue May 19 21:08:37 1998 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-970926-1) id UAA16181; Tue, 19 May 1998 20:55:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: from sina.hpc.uh.edu (Sina.HPC.UH.EDU [129.7.3.5]) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-980202-1) with ESMTP id UAA16172 for ; Tue, 19 May 1998 20:55:18 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from tibbs@localhost) by sina.hpc.uh.edu (8.7.3/8.7.3) id WAA18705; Tue, 19 May 1998 22:59:01 -0500 (CDT) To: Patti Scanlan Cc: majordomo-users@GreatCircle.COM Subject: Re: Command Disabled Error References: <3.0.5.32.19980518125903.007a95a0@mail.libby.org> <3.0.5.32.19980518151007.0079a100@mail.libby.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 (generated by tm-edit 7.100) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII From: Jason L Tibbitts III Date: 19 May 1998 22:59:00 -0500 In-Reply-To: Patti Scanlan's message of "Mon, 18 May 1998 15:10:07 -0600" Message-ID: Lines: 15 X-Mailer: Gnus v5.6.9/Emacs 19.34 Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk >>>>> "PS" == Patti Scanlan writes: PS> My service provider upgraded to majordomo-1.94.4 this past weekend, and PS> moved our list to a new server. I assume you upgraded for 1.93 or older and didn't upgrade your config files. PS> We have this set in our config as private who = yes.... which is the PS> way it has always been, and we have never had problems before. There is no such option as 'private_who'. In 1.94 and above it is 'who_access', and it accepts different values. Issue a writeconfig command and set the new variables. - J< From majordomo-users-owner Tue May 19 22:38:37 1998 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-970926-1) id WAA17700; Tue, 19 May 1998 22:37:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: from acunet.net ([208.203.130.2]) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-980202-1) with ESMTP id WAA17693 for ; Tue, 19 May 1998 22:37:17 -0700 (PDT) Received: from dominispc (baypool12.acunet.net [208.208.5.12]) by acunet.net (8.8.7/8.8.4) with SMTP id BAA05891 for ; Wed, 20 May 1998 01:39:58 -0400 (EDT) From: "Otis Gospodnetic" To: Subject: RE: Bug report: maybe? Date: Wed, 20 May 1998 01:39:23 -0400 Message-ID: <000001bd83b1$a4a811d0$0c05d0d0@dominispc.acunet.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 In-Reply-To: X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Importance: Normal Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk > TC> Munge domain is turned on for this list. tec@anyhost.mountain.net > TC> is zubscribed to this list. Yet mail from tec@mountain.net is > TC> bounced... > > Correct. The short form should be on the list; the long forms will be > compared as being equivalent to it. what is munge_domain was turned off (no) at the beginning and then turned on (yes) later on, after some people have already zubazcribed to the list (with addresses like tec@anyhost.mountain.net) ? munge_domain = yes would not really work for those those zubzcribed while munge_domain was == no, right? So one would have to manually parse the zubzcriber list and make sure that only 'top level addresses' (e.g. tec@mountain.net) were zubzcribed...? Thanks Otis -- eZines Database From majordomo-users-owner Wed May 20 01:14:17 1998 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-970926-1) id BAA19770; Wed, 20 May 1998 01:03:10 -0700 (PDT) Received: from stingray.ivision.co.uk (stingray.ivision.co.uk [195.50.91.40]) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-980202-1) with SMTP id BAA19746 for ; Wed, 20 May 1998 01:02:56 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pretender.ivision.co.uk [195.50.91.43] by stingray.ivision.co.uk with smtp (Exim 1.62 #2) id 0yc3t5-00005T-00; Wed, 20 May 1998 09:06:12 +0100 Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.19980520070723.008ec100@stingray.ivision.co.uk> X-Sender: manarpop@stingray.ivision.co.uk X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.5 (32) Date: Wed, 20 May 1998 07:07:23 +0100 To: Tony.Curtis@vcpc.univie.ac.at From: Manar Hussain Subject: Re: noadvertise set but list still appears Cc: majordomo-users@greatcircle.com In-Reply-To: <199805180813.KAA10540@beavis.vcpc.univie.ac.at> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk At 10:13 18/05/98 +0200, Tony.Curtis@vcpc.univie.ac.at wrote: >Hi, > >I am having a problem with a couple of lists at my site. >They are both set up with an empty "advertise" array and >noadvertise as > > noadvertise << END > /.*/ > END > >but a "lists" command to majordomo still includes these >lists in its output. Some other lists set up in the same >way do *not* show up from "lists". > >I've tried writeconfig and newconfig without errors but >these lists still appear. This mail I'm sending is just about exactly the smae as one I sent about a week ago - shame I can't assume you've read the last couple of weeks of list traffic / read through the Faq / searched the list archives for an answer. You always see lists you are subscribed too even if they would not normally be advertised (who would majordomo be kiding). Manar From majordomo-users-owner Wed May 20 02:38:41 1998 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-970926-1) id CAA22257; Wed, 20 May 1998 02:32:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: from brezo.sdi.uam.es (brezo.sdi.uam.es [150.244.9.2]) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-980202-1) with ESMTP id CAA22250 for ; Wed, 20 May 1998 02:32:40 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [150.244.109.56] (cogorza.sdi.uam.es [150.244.109.56]) by brezo.sdi.uam.es (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA04927; Wed, 20 May 1998 11:35:31 +0200 (MET DST) X-Sender: mercedes@bosque.sdi.uam.es Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <3.0.5.32.19980520070723.008ec100@stingray.ivision.co.uk> References: <199805180813.KAA10540@beavis.vcpc.univie.ac.at> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Date: Wed, 20 May 1998 11:35:27 +0200 To: Manar Hussain From: Mercedes Gimenez Subject: Re: noadvertise set but list still appears Cc: Tony.Curtis@vcpc.univie.ac.at, majordomo-users@GreatCircle.COM Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk Hi: I have put in my lists in noadvertise field /^/. I =B4am subcribe to one of= this lists, and when I send to majordomo the "list" command, I can=B4t= see the list whith /^/ in noadvertise field. Regards,=20 At 08:07 +0200 20/5/98, Manar Hussain wrote: >This mail I'm sending is just about exactly the smae as one I sent about a >week ago - shame I can't assume you've read the last couple of weeks of >list traffic / read through the Faq / searched the list archives for an >answer. > >You always see lists you are subscribed too even if they would not normally >be advertised (who would majordomo be kiding). > >Manar -- ---------------------------------------------------------------- Mercedes Gim=E9nez Barrio e-mail: mer.gimenez@uam.= es Servicio de Inform=E1tica Phone: +34 91 397 51= 53 Universidad Aut=F3noma de Madrid Fax : +34 91 397 19 14 E-28049 Cantoblanco. Espa=F1a (SPAIN) ----------------------------------------------------------------- From majordomo-users-owner Wed May 20 03:23:47 1998 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-970926-1) id DAA22863; Wed, 20 May 1998 03:10:16 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nanguo.chalmers.com.au (gateway.chalmers.com.au [203.1.96.1]) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-980202-1) with ESMTP id DAA22850 for ; Wed, 20 May 1998 03:10:06 -0700 (PDT) Received: from chalmers.com.au (carbon.chalmers.com.au [203.1.96.26]) by nanguo.chalmers.com.au (8.8.8/8.8.7) with ESMTP id UAA13970 for ; Wed, 20 May 1998 20:13:03 +1000 (EST) Message-ID: <3562AE9B.D34C09C4@chalmers.com.au> Date: Wed, 20 May 1998 20:21:15 +1000 From: Robert Chalmers Reply-To: robert@chalmers.com.au Organization: chalmers.com.au X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "majordomo-users@GreatCircle.COM" Subject: Majorcool doesn't seem to list all users? Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk Hi, I have just installed majorcool 1.3, and it doesn't seem to want to list all the users in the list? It lists 17 out of the 26 in the list only. All addresses are valid addresses... help ??? thanks Robert -- Support Whirled Peas. http://www.chalmers.com.au robert@chalmers.com.au China House - Bookshop From majordomo-users-owner Wed May 20 08:39:55 1998 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-970926-1) id IAA27444; Wed, 20 May 1998 08:33:22 -0700 (PDT) Received: from miles.greatcircle.com (miles.greatcircle.com [198.102.244.45]) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-980202-1) with ESMTP id IAA27437 for ; Wed, 20 May 1998 08:33:18 -0700 (PDT) Received: from clifford.inch.com (clifford.inch.com [207.240.140.163]) by miles.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA13460 for ; Wed, 20 May 1998 08:35:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from omar@localhost) by clifford.inch.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) id KAA01748; Wed, 20 May 1998 10:29:18 -0400 Message-ID: <19980520102918.45180@clifford.inch.com> Date: Wed, 20 May 1998 10:29:18 -0400 From: Omar Thameen To: majordomo-users@greatcircle.com Subject: sending only one email for new subscribers Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.81 Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk When a user zubscribes to a list, they get 2 messages back. One is the "Welcome to the list" message and one is the administrative response telling them that their zubscription request succeeded. Is there any clean way to suppress the administrative response only for new user zubscriptions? That is, provided that the user was added to the list and is being sent a welcome message. I seem to remember this being talked about, but wasn't able to find any threads in the archives. Omar From majordomo-users-owner Wed May 20 11:24:56 1998 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-970926-1) id LAA28621; Wed, 20 May 1998 11:13:53 -0700 (PDT) Received: from halachmi.net (dartboard.halachmi.net [207.234.66.6]) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-980202-1) with ESMTP id LAA28613 for ; Wed, 20 May 1998 11:13:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: from halachmi.net (halachmi.net [207.234.66.6]) by halachmi.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id MAA07480 for ; Wed, 20 May 1998 12:15:00 -0500 (CDT) Date: Wed, 20 May 1998 12:15:00 -0500 (CDT) From: Alan Halachmi Reply-To: Alan Halachmi To: majordomo-users@greatcircle.com Subject: Bulk_Mail + Majoromo Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk Ive got a list w/ 12000+ people on it. I like the prepocessing of bul_mail, but I need the config script from majordomo. Has anyone successfully integrated bulk_mail into majordomo - or had any success inserting some type of pre-processing program into it? Thanks, Alan -- Alan Halachmi, Head of Internet Services| UNIX and Networking Consultant Solaris Administrator/ Web Design | Ingram Entertainment Network Services Montgomery Bell Academy | & mailto:alan@halachmi.net | SpeedServe, Inc. http://www.montgomerybell.com | http://www.speedserve.com From majordomo-users-owner Wed May 20 12:43:38 1998 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-970926-1) id MAA29677; Wed, 20 May 1998 12:35:22 -0700 (PDT) Received: from atle.abc.se (atle.abc.se [192.36.170.16]) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-980202-1) with ESMTP id MAA29568 for ; Wed, 20 May 1998 12:33:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (m8698@localhost) by atle.abc.se (8.8.8+Sun/8.8.8) with SMTP id QAA11141; Wed, 20 May 1998 16:29:46 +0200 (MET DST) X-Authentication-Warning: atle.abc.se: m8698 owned process doing -bs Date: Wed, 20 May 1998 15:29:45 +0100 (MET) From: Mats Dufberg X-Sender: m8698@atle To: David Bank cc: majordomo-users@GreatCircle.COM Subject: Re: RETRY: Problem w/v1.9.4 In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk On Tue, 19 May 1998, David Bank wrote: > --- Cut here --- > MAJORDOMO ABORT (mj_majordomo)!! > > chmod(33200, "/etc/lists/toy.new"): Not owner > --- Cut here --- > > I've checked majordomo, resend and wrapper for permissions. They look > like this: > > -rwxr-xr-x 1 majordom listown 29516 Feb 6 21:15 resend* > -rwsr-xr-x 1 root listown 8604 Feb 6 21:16 wrapper* > -rwxr-xr-x 1 majordom listown 64247 Feb 6 21:15 majordomo* > > Here are the permissions on the actual List files: > > -rw-rw---- 1 majordom listown 5065 May 11 08:54 toy > -rw-rw---- 1 majordom listown 16410 Feb 12 17:45 toy.config > -rw-rw---- 1 majordom listown 4223 Feb 7 10:03 toy.info > -rw-rw---- 1 majordom listown 0 May 3 11:28 toy.new > > 'majordom' is the UID under which Majordomo runs. 'listown' is the GID > for all Mailing List Owners (and majordom is in the Group). Have you double check that user majordom is what you complied into wrapper? ----------------------------------------------------------------- Mats Dufberg Mats.Dufberg@abc.se From majordomo-users-owner Wed May 20 12:55:07 1998 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-970926-1) id MAA29771; Wed, 20 May 1998 12:40:26 -0700 (PDT) Received: from zeus.netdirect.net.uk (zeus.netdirect.net.uk [195.7.224.6]) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-980202-1) with ESMTP id MAA29760 for ; Wed, 20 May 1998 12:40:13 -0700 (PDT) From: merlin@valleys.ndirect.co.uk Received: from valleys.ndirect.co.uk (root@mail.valleys.ndirect.co.uk [195.99.165.238]) by zeus.netdirect.net.uk (8.8.5/8.6.6) with ESMTP id SAA31096; Wed, 20 May 1998 18:17:17 +0100 Received: (from merlin@localhost) by valleys.ndirect.co.uk (8.8.7/8.8.7) id RAA04119; Wed, 20 May 1998 17:14:06 +0100 Message-Id: <199805201614.RAA04119@valleys.ndirect.co.uk> Subject: Re: noadvertise set but list still appears To: Tony.Curtis@vcpc.univie.ac.at Date: Wed, 20 May 1998 17:14:06 +0100 (BST) Cc: majordomo-users@GreatCircle.COM In-Reply-To: <199805180813.KAA10540@beavis.vcpc.univie.ac.at> from "Tony.Curtis@vcpc.univie.ac.at" at May 18, 98 10:13:51 am Content-Type: text Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk > I am having a problem with a couple of lists at my site. > They are both set up with an empty "advertise" array and > noadvertise as > > noadvertise << END > /.*/ > END > > but a "lists" command to majordomo still includes these > lists in its output. Some other lists set up in the same > way do *not* show up from "lists". The person who is sending the 'lists' command... Are they subbed to the list? If they are, the list will show with the 'lists' command. From majordomo-users-owner Wed May 20 13:24:14 1998 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-970926-1) id NAA01243; Wed, 20 May 1998 13:15:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: from gull.prod.itd.earthlink.net (gull.prod.itd.earthlink.net [207.217.120.85]) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-980202-1) with ESMTP id NAA01213 for ; Wed, 20 May 1998 13:15:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [208.252.36.175] (1Cust175.tnt1.palm-springs.ca.da.uu.net [208.252.36.175]) by gull.prod.itd.earthlink.net (8.8.7/8.8.5) with SMTP id IAA13533 for ; Wed, 20 May 1998 08:17:15 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199805201517.IAA13533@gull.prod.itd.earthlink.net> Subject: Can I surpress "Welcome" messages? Date: Wed, 20 May 98 08:18:01 -0000 x-sender: bizsuccess@earthlink.net x-mailer: Claris Emailer 1.1 From: Gary Lockwood To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk I've scoured the manuals, searched the archicev and experimented. Can't find the answer. Thought you might know. I'm maintaining a broadcast-only list (my list of publishers who receive my articles). I'll be the only person putting people on the list. How can I add someone to the list without them receiving a welcome message? Thank you Gary Lockwood ==== ++ ==== ==== ++ ======== ++ ======== ++ ======== ++ ==== Gary Lockwood, Your Business Coach. (800) 272-1575 (U.S.) Grow your business, make more money, have more fun! Fax: (760) 325-9608 Office: (760) 325-9505 Mailto:Gary@BizSuccess.com http://www.bizsuccess.com For FREE report, email mailto:FreeReport@infofree.com For information about BizSuccess, mailto:info@bizsuccess.com ==== ++ ==== ==== ++ ======== ++ ======== ++ ======== ++ ==== From majordomo-users-owner Wed May 20 13:54:01 1998 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-970926-1) id NAA01958; Wed, 20 May 1998 13:48:40 -0700 (PDT) Received: from sina.hpc.uh.edu (Sina.HPC.UH.EDU [129.7.3.5]) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-980202-1) with ESMTP id NAA01951 for ; Wed, 20 May 1998 13:48:35 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from tibbs@localhost) by sina.hpc.uh.edu (8.7.3/8.7.3) id PAA07237; Wed, 20 May 1998 15:52:14 -0500 (CDT) To: Gary Lockwood Cc: Subject: Re: Can I surpress "Welcome" messages? References: <199805201517.IAA13533@gull.prod.itd.earthlink.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 (generated by tm-edit 7.100) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII From: Jason L Tibbitts III Date: 20 May 1998 15:52:13 -0500 In-Reply-To: Gary Lockwood's message of "Wed, 20 May 98 08:18:01 -0000" Message-ID: Lines: 9 X-Mailer: Gnus v5.6.9/Emacs 19.34 Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk >>>>> "GL" == Gary Lockwood writes: GL> I've scoured the manuals, searched the archicev and experimented. Can't GL> find the answer. It's right there in the config file: welcome = no. You need the current version, though. - J< From majordomo-users-owner Wed May 20 14:09:17 1998 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-970926-1) id NAA01949; Wed, 20 May 1998 13:47:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: from sina.hpc.uh.edu (Sina.HPC.UH.EDU [129.7.3.5]) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-980202-1) with ESMTP id NAA01934 for ; Wed, 20 May 1998 13:47:38 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from tibbs@localhost) by sina.hpc.uh.edu (8.7.3/8.7.3) id PAA07193; Wed, 20 May 1998 15:51:08 -0500 (CDT) To: Alan Halachmi Cc: majordomo-users@GreatCircle.COM Subject: Re: Bulk_Mail + Majoromo References: Mime-Version: 1.0 (generated by tm-edit 7.100) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII From: Jason L Tibbitts III Date: 20 May 1998 15:51:07 -0500 In-Reply-To: Alan Halachmi's message of "Wed, 20 May 1998 12:15:00 -0500 (CDT)" Message-ID: Lines: 23 X-Mailer: Gnus v5.6.9/Emacs 19.34 Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk >>>>> "AH" == Alan Halachmi writes: AH> Ive got a list w/ 12000+ people on it. I like the prepocessing of AH> bul_mail, but I need the config script from majordomo. Has anyone AH> successfully integrated bulk_mail into majordomo Does anyone actually run it any other way? You just put bulk_mailer in your outgoing alias, something like the following (no, this doesn't really exist): PC800-Outgoing: "| /usr/local/bin/bulk_mailer -precedence list -maxdomains 10 owner-pc800@hpc.uh.edu /usr/local/lists/lists/pc800", "| /usr/local/lists/majordomo/wrapper archive2 -a -m -f /usr/local/lists/archive/pc800/pc800", AH> or had any success inserting some type of pre-processing program into AH> it? TLB integrates directly into Majordomo via the $mailer variable. You can do the same with bulk_mailer, but that makes it difficult to do archives and digests. - J< From majordomo-users-owner Wed May 20 14:24:34 1998 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-970926-1) id OAA03053; Wed, 20 May 1998 14:23:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: from rose.ny.cantor.com (rose.cantor.com [198.80.21.33]) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-980202-1) with SMTP id OAA03046 for ; Wed, 20 May 1998 14:23:00 -0700 (PDT) From: dave_thomson@cantor.com Received: by rose.ny.cantor.com (8.6.9) id RAA23290; Wed, 20 May 1998 17:22:59 -0400 Received: from nysmtp01.ny.cantor.com(148.106.77.80) by rose.ny.cantor.com via smap (V1.3) id sma023272; Wed May 20 17:22:50 1998 Received: from ccMail by cantor.com (ccMail Link to SMTP R8.11.00.3) id AA895699381; Wed, 20 May 98 17:23:04 -0500 Message-Id: <9805208956.AA895699381@cantor.com> X-Mailer: ccMail Link to SMTP R8.11.00.3 Date: Wed, 20 May 98 17:18:48 -0500 To: , Subject: Re: Can I surpress "Welcome" messages? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Description: "cc:Mail Note Part" Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk Gary Lockwood wrote: >I'm maintaining a broadcast-only list (my list of publishers who >receive my articles). I'll be the only person putting people on the >list. How can I add someone to the list without them receiving a >welcome message? Thank you >Gary Lockwood What I do is just append them to the list of recipiants instead of using the subscribe command. Then they never get a welcome message. Regards, dave_thomson@cantor.com From majordomo-users-owner Wed May 20 14:53:44 1998 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-970926-1) id OAA03568; Wed, 20 May 1998 14:50:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ecuanex.net.ec (ecuanex.ecuanex.net.ec [207.234.159.33]) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-980202-1) with ESMTP id OAA03561 for ; Wed, 20 May 1998 14:50:50 -0700 (PDT) From: janeth@ecuanex.net.ec Received: from cotopaxi.ecuanex.net.ec (cotopaxi.ecuanex.net.ec [207.234.159.35]) by ecuanex.net.ec (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id QAA07665 for ; Wed, 20 May 1998 16:53:54 -0500 Message-Id: <199805202153.QAA07665@ecuanex.net.ec> To: majordomo-users@greatcircle.com Date: Wed, 20 May 1998 16:51:53 +0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Subject: Mail to list owner Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk Hello: I need your help about the mail received by the list owner. I have created several lists with Majordomo 1.94.4 and when the list owner sends a mail to the list, every member of the list receive it, but the list owner doesn't, although the list owner is subscribed to the list. What must I do to resolve this? The server on that Majordomo was installed is a PC with Linux Redhat 5.0, the kernel version is 2.0.30 and the version of sendmail is 8.8.7 Thanks for your help. Janeth Solano ----------------------------------- Janeth Solano INTERCOM - Nodo Ecuanex Quito - Ecuador Telf. (593 2) 523-527 ----------------------------------- From majordomo-users-owner Wed May 20 16:39:22 1998 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-970926-1) id QAA05430; Wed, 20 May 1998 16:31:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: (mcb@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-980202-1) id QAA05420 for majordomo-users@greatcircle.com; Wed, 20 May 1998 16:31:10 -0700 (PDT) Received: from bentley.microtronix.ca (bentley.microtronix.ca [206.186.67.100]) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-980202-1) with ESMTP id IAA03775 for ; Tue, 19 May 1998 08:56:38 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (jordas@localhost) by bentley.microtronix.ca (8.8.5/8.8.6) with SMTP id UAA01230 for ; Tue, 19 May 1998 20:29:12 -0400 Date: Tue, 19 May 1998 20:29:12 -0400 (EDT) From: James Ordas To: majordomo-users@greatcircle.com Subject: lists w/ mixed letters Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk How do I set up a list that has upper case letters in it? ex LHTA-L From majordomo-users-owner Wed May 20 16:51:05 1998 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-970926-1) id QAA05452; Wed, 20 May 1998 16:31:29 -0700 (PDT) Received: (mcb@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-980202-1) id QAA05444 for majordomo-users@greatcircle.com; Wed, 20 May 1998 16:31:26 -0700 (PDT) Received: from jag.af.mil (AFLS2.JAG.AF.MIL [132.60.56.8]) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-980202-1) with SMTP id MAA06796 for ; Tue, 19 May 1998 12:28:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pbecht.jag.af.mil ([132.60.59.209]) by jag.af.mil (SMI-8.6/970910) with SMTP id OAA12085; Tue, 19 May 1998 14:30:52 -0500 Received: by localhost with Microsoft MAPI; Tue, 19 May 1998 14:30:41 -0500 Message-ID: <01BD8332.B32CC0E0.pbecht@jag.af.mil> From: Pauline Bechtold To: "'Majordomo-Users@GreatCircle.COM'" Subject: re: archives Date: Tue, 19 May 1998 14:30:39 -0500 X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet E-mail/MAPI - 8.0.0.4211 Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk Hey there. We just moved our majordomo from one server to another. We finally got everything running pritty much, except for one thing. For some reason as yet to be determined nothing is being written to the archives files. I have asked our sysadmin person to check into the permissions on the files. Does anybody have any other suggestions for me? Thanks for your time PPP pbecht@aflsa.jag.af.mil From majordomo-users-owner Wed May 20 16:53:37 1998 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-970926-1) id QAA05412; Wed, 20 May 1998 16:30:53 -0700 (PDT) Received: (mcb@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-980202-1) id QAA05399 for majordomo-users@greatcircle.com; Wed, 20 May 1998 16:30:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: from stio1.fh-wuerzburg.de (stio1.fh-wuerzburg.de [193.174.80.12]) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-980202-1) with ESMTP id DAA28203 for ; Tue, 19 May 1998 03:53:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: by stio1.fh-wuerzburg.de; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/26Aug94-1034AM) id MAA20585; Tue, 19 May 1998 12:56:52 +0200 (MET DST) Date: Tue, 19 May 1998 12:56:51 +0200 (MET DST) From: Stegerwald Frank To: majordomo-users@greatcircle.com Subject: Owner not inserted in list.config file Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk Hello, when I create a new list and majordomo is creating the config file for me, I always have to insert the owner-address by hand. But I want majordomo to fill it in, because I want to subscribe to the list over Majorcool and there the owner address had to be set, otherwise the list is marked as "not configured". I'm using SuSE Linux 5.0 and Majordomo 1.94 What do I make wrong ??? Any help or comments will be very appreciatet THANX in advance Frank From majordomo-users-owner Wed May 20 17:03:46 1998 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-970926-1) id QAA05477; Wed, 20 May 1998 16:32:23 -0700 (PDT) Received: (mcb@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-980202-1) id QAA05467 for majordomo-users@greatcircle.com; Wed, 20 May 1998 16:32:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ncr-sd.SanDiegoCA.NCR.COM (h153-64-251-18.NCR.COM [153.64.251.18]) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-980202-1) with ESMTP id UAA15615 for ; Tue, 19 May 1998 20:09:19 -0700 (PDT) Received: from jabberwocky (jabberwocky.SanDiegoCA.NCR.COM [153.64.69.123]) by ncr-sd.SanDiegoCA.NCR.COM (8.8.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id UAA18899; Tue, 19 May 1998 20:12:02 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199805200312.UAA18899@ncr-sd.SanDiegoCA.NCR.COM> X-Sender: bhoule@www.sandiegoca.ncr.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.0.1 Date: Tue, 19 May 1998 20:04:37 -0700 To: Tim Connolly , "majordomo-users@GreatCircle.COM" From: Bill Houle Subject: Re: Bug report: maybe? In-Reply-To: <355F40AF.976738B8@jnos.tec.mountain.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk At 03:55 PM 5/17/98 -0400, Tim Connolly wrote: > Munge domain is turned on for this list. >tec@anyhost.mountain.net is subscribed to this list. >Yet mail from tec@mountain.net is bounced... >If I reverse those two and subscribe as tec@mountain.net >and send mail as "tec@1.2.mountain.net" all seems normal. > Is this a bug, an overlook, or have I missed a "reverse" munge domain >option in the config file ? This is as intended. One should subscribe with the generic address and all other accesses with host-specific addresses should work. --bill From majordomo-users-owner Wed May 20 17:08:37 1998 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-970926-1) id QAA05746; Wed, 20 May 1998 16:44:56 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mermaid.shore.net (mermaid.shore.net [207.244.124.6]) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-980202-1) with SMTP id QAA05739 for ; Wed, 20 May 1998 16:44:49 -0700 (PDT) Received: from smoe.org [204.167.97.154] (jeffw) by mermaid.shore.net with esmtp (Exim) id 0ycIac-0003ct-00; Wed, 20 May 1998 19:48:12 -0400 Received: (from jeffw@localhost) by smoe.org (8.8.7/8.8.7/daemon-mode-relay2) id TAA05057; Wed, 20 May 1998 19:50:36 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <19980520195034.U18695@smoe.org> Date: Wed, 20 May 1998 19:50:34 -0400 From: Jeff Wasilko To: James Ordas , majordomo-users@greatcircle.com Subject: Re: lists w/ mixed letters Mail-Followup-To: James Ordas , majordomo-users@greatcircle.com References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.91.1 In-Reply-To: ; from "James Ordas" on Tue, May 19, 1998 at 08:29:12PM -0400 Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk On Tue, May 19, 1998 at 08:29:12PM -0400, James Ordas wrote: > How do I set up a list that has upper case letters in it? > ex LHTA-L You can't. You can tell people the list is LHTA-L, but it must be created as lhta-l on your list server. -jeff From majordomo-users-owner Wed May 20 17:17:12 1998 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-970926-1) id QAA05489; Wed, 20 May 1998 16:32:29 -0700 (PDT) Received: (mcb@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-980202-1) id QAA05481 for majordomo-users@greatcircle.com; Wed, 20 May 1998 16:32:26 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ncr-sd.SanDiegoCA.NCR.COM (h153-64-251-18.NCR.COM [153.64.251.18]) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-980202-1) with ESMTP id UAA15616 for ; Tue, 19 May 1998 20:09:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: from jabberwocky (jabberwocky.SanDiegoCA.NCR.COM [153.64.69.123]) by ncr-sd.SanDiegoCA.NCR.COM (8.8.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id UAA18908; Tue, 19 May 1998 20:12:03 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199805200312.UAA18908@ncr-sd.SanDiegoCA.NCR.COM> X-Sender: bhoule@www.sandiegoca.ncr.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.0.1 Date: Tue, 19 May 1998 20:15:52 -0700 To: Stegerwald Frank , majordomo-users@GreatCircle.COM From: Bill Houle Subject: Re: Owner attribute In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk At 01:54 PM 5/18/98 +0200, Stegerwald Frank wrote: >When I create a new list and send the >"config listname listpasswd" to Majordomo, >it sends me the listname.config file back, >but it didn't insert owner-address. > >But I need this address in the config file >when I want to subscribe to this list via >Majorcool over the WWW. Are you expecting to find the "owner" keyword in your config file? This keyword is optional for MajorCool and will only exist if you have modified config_parse.pl as detailed in the MajorCool documentation. You might try playing around without adding it first. MajorCool will work fine on an unmodified Majordomo. If you have hacked config_parse, issue a "writeconfig" command. This will update your config with the new keyword. Without this, a "config" will just return the existing file without updating it. --bill From majordomo-users-owner Wed May 20 17:19:42 1998 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-970926-1) id QAA05441; Wed, 20 May 1998 16:31:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: (mcb@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-980202-1) id QAA05433 for majordomo-users@greatcircle.com; Wed, 20 May 1998 16:31:18 -0700 (PDT) Received: from batman.teqcorp.com.mx ([200.23.140.17]) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-980202-1) with ESMTP id LAA05884 for ; Tue, 19 May 1998 11:16:56 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (kiyoshi@localhost) by batman.teqcorp.com.mx (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id NAA00007 for ; Tue, 19 May 1998 13:22:30 -0500 Date: Tue, 19 May 1998 13:22:30 -0500 (CDT) From: Kiyoshi Ueda To: majordomo-users@greatcircle.com Subject: Returned mail: tornillos-list... aliasing/forwarding loop broken (fwd) Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: MULTIPART/REPORT; REPORT-TYPE=delivery-status; BOUNDARY="NAB32206.895600966/batman.teqcorp.com.mx" Content-ID: Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk This message is in MIME format. The first part should be readable text, while the remaining parts are likely unreadable without MIME-aware tools. Send mail to mime@docserver.cac.washington.edu for more info. --NAB32206.895600966/batman.teqcorp.com.mx Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII Content-ID: ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Tue, 19 May 1998 13:02:46 -0500 From: Mail Delivery Subsystem To: owner-tornillos@teqcorp.com.mx Subject: Returned mail: tornillos-list... aliasing/forwarding loop broken The original message was received at Tue, 19 May 1998 13:02:46 -0500 from majordom@localhost ----- The following addresses had permanent fatal errors ----- tornillos-list :include:/usr/majordomo/lists/tornillos (expanded from: tornillos-list) ----- Transcript of session follows ----- 550 :include:/usr/majordomo/lists/tornillos... Cannot open /usr/majordomo/lists/tornillos: Permission denied 554 tornillos-list... aliasing/forwarding loop broken ---- any idea ??? i have majordomo 1.94.4 running on linux redhat v 4.2 thank you in advance... and.. sorry if this post is a faq. Kiyoshi --NAB32206.895600966/batman.teqcorp.com.mx-- From majordomo-users-owner Thu May 21 00:08:37 1998 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-970926-1) id XAA10624; Wed, 20 May 1998 23:53:48 -0700 (PDT) Received: from miles.greatcircle.com (miles.greatcircle.com [198.102.244.45]) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-980202-1) with ESMTP id XAA10617 for ; Wed, 20 May 1998 23:53:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nanguo.chalmers.com.au (gateway.chalmers.com.au [203.1.96.1]) by miles.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id XAA16553 for ; Wed, 20 May 1998 23:55:49 -0700 (PDT) Received: from chalmers.com.au (carbon.chalmers.com.au [203.1.96.26]) by nanguo.chalmers.com.au (8.8.8/8.8.7) with ESMTP id QAA22240 for ; Thu, 21 May 1998 16:50:03 +1000 (EST) Message-ID: <3563D080.5DF09A03@chalmers.com.au> Date: Thu, 21 May 1998 16:58:08 +1000 From: Robert Chalmers Reply-To: robert@chalmers.com.au Organization: chalmers.com.au X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "majordomo-users@GreatCircle.COM" Subject: Width of List textarea is too wide? Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk How can I change the actual width of the List TEXTAREA display, when displaying the members of a list. It scrolls off the right hand edge of the screen, and changing pref doesn't alter that bit! I know its not much, but its a damned nuisance all the same.. Thanks Robert -- Support Whirled Peas. http://www.chalmers.com.au robert@chalmers.com.au China House - Bookshop From majordomo-users-owner Thu May 21 01:38:37 1998 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-970926-1) id BAA12047; Thu, 21 May 1998 01:28:11 -0700 (PDT) Received: from miles.greatcircle.com (miles.greatcircle.com [198.102.244.45]) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-980202-1) with ESMTP id BAA12040 for ; Thu, 21 May 1998 01:28:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: from atle.abc.se (atle.abc.se [192.36.170.16]) by miles.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id BAA17380 for ; Thu, 21 May 1998 01:30:19 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (m8698@localhost) by atle.abc.se (8.8.8+Sun/8.8.8) with SMTP id KAA02399; Thu, 21 May 1998 10:27:52 +0200 (MET DST) X-Authentication-Warning: atle.abc.se: m8698 owned process doing -bs Date: Thu, 21 May 1998 09:27:51 +0100 (MET) From: Mats Dufberg X-Sender: m8698@atle To: janeth@ecuanex.net.ec cc: majordomo-users@GreatCircle.COM Subject: Re: Mail to list owner In-Reply-To: <199805202153.QAA07665@ecuanex.net.ec> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk On Wed, 20 May 1998 janeth@ecuanex.net.ec wrote: > I need your help about the mail received by the list owner. I > have created several lists with Majordomo 1.94.4 and when the list > owner sends a mail to the list, every member of the list receive it, > but the list owner doesn't, although the list owner is subscribed to > the list. What must I do to resolve this? Check "metoo" setting in sendmail. ----------------------------------------------------------------- Mats Dufberg Mats.Dufberg@abc.se From majordomo-users-owner Thu May 21 01:54:00 1998 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-970926-1) id BAA12038; Thu, 21 May 1998 01:27:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: from atle.abc.se (atle.abc.se [192.36.170.16]) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-980202-1) with ESMTP id BAA12031 for ; Thu, 21 May 1998 01:27:19 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (m8698@localhost) by atle.abc.se (8.8.8+Sun/8.8.8) with SMTP id KAA03145; Thu, 21 May 1998 10:30:48 +0200 (MET DST) X-Authentication-Warning: atle.abc.se: m8698 owned process doing -bs Date: Thu, 21 May 1998 09:30:48 +0100 (MET) From: Mats Dufberg X-Sender: m8698@atle To: Kiyoshi Ueda cc: majordomo-users@GreatCircle.COM Subject: Re: Returned mail: tornillos-list... aliasing/forwarding loop broken (fwd) In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: MULTIPART/REPORT; REPORT-TYPE=delivery-status; BOUNDARY="NAB32206.895600966/batman.teqcorp.com.mx" Content-ID: Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk This message is in MIME format. The first part should be readable text, while the remaining parts are likely unreadable without MIME-aware tools. Send mail to mime@docserver.cac.washington.edu for more info. --NAB32206.895600966/batman.teqcorp.com.mx Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII Content-ID: On Tue, 19 May 1998, Kiyoshi Ueda wrote: > 550 :include:/usr/majordomo/lists/tornillos... Cannot open > /usr/majordomo/lists/tornillos: Permission denied > 554 tornillos-list... aliasing/forwarding loop broken Set read persmission for everone on /usr/majordomo/lists/tornillos, chmod a+r /usr/majordomo/lists/tornillos ----------------------------------------------------------------- Mats Dufberg Mats.Dufberg@abc.se --NAB32206.895600966/batman.teqcorp.com.mx-- From majordomo-users-owner Thu May 21 07:39:30 1998 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-970926-1) id HAA19574; Thu, 21 May 1998 07:35:40 -0700 (PDT) Received: from primrose.csv.warwick.ac.uk (primrose.csv.warwick.ac.uk [137.205.192.26]) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-980202-1) with ESMTP id HAA19563 for ; Thu, 21 May 1998 07:35:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from mareb@localhost) by primrose.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.8.7/8.8.8) id PAA07656 for majordomo-users@greatcircle.com; Thu, 21 May 1998 15:38:08 +0100 (BST) From: David Epstein Message-Id: <199805211438.PAA07656@primrose.csv.warwick.ac.uk> Subject: mungedomain To: majordomo-users@greatcircle.com (mju) Date: Thu, 21 May 1998 15:38:08 +0100 (BST) Organization: Maths Institute, Warwick University, Coventry, UK. Acknowledge-To: dbae@maths.warwick.ac.uk X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL32 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk Suppose person@place.edu is zubscribed. Does mungedomain recognize person@machine.department.place.edu as being the same? Or will it only recognize person@department.place.edu as being the same. David Epstein From majordomo-users-owner Thu May 21 07:58:00 1998 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-970926-1) id HAA19521; Thu, 21 May 1998 07:28:02 -0700 (PDT) Received: from prescienttech.com (londo.prescienttech.com [199.103.216.62]) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-980202-1) with ESMTP id HAA19512 for ; Thu, 21 May 1998 07:27:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: from gkar.prescienttech.com. (gkar.prescienttech.com [111.17.19.1]) by prescienttech.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id KAA02748 for ; Thu, 21 May 1998 10:31:30 -0400 From: Rich Pieri To: majordomo-users@greatcircle.com Subject: Re: Width of List textarea is too wide? References: <3563D080.5DF09A03@chalmers.com.au> X-No-Archive: yes Mail-Copies-To: never Date: 21 May 1998 10:31:30 -0400 In-Reply-To: Robert Chalmers's message of "Thu, 21 May 1998 16:58:08 +1000" Message-ID: Lines: 26 X-Mailer: Gnus v5.6.9/Emacs 19.34 Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Robert Chalmers writes: > How can I change the actual width of the List TEXTAREA display, Huh? Methinks you are talking about something other than Majordomo. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 4.0 Business Edition Charset: noconv iQCVAwUBNWQ6wJ6VRH7BJMxHAQGnsAP8DFREkZSazvIyGyAeqMmnyDdxxG0YZTm8 fNFc+/EixcQb7rNdpg0nSTOmwXtm+JSfabcDIBjMaWT0M2FJxpZie97FiamRll9A Yr0Nai/y6+bIAUj1qNY69y4aIPPjoOlgYqVpSPylJmyMICEC2Jce+hOxcrwvziUM NmD0s+Umoko= =/ouA -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- Rich Pieri / Happy Fun Ball contains a liquid Sysmonster, Unix Wrangler / core, which, if exposed due to Prescient Technologies, Inc. / rupture, should not be touched, I speak for myself, not PTI or SWEC / inhaled, or looked at. From majordomo-users-owner Thu May 21 08:09:29 1998 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-970926-1) id HAA19500; Thu, 21 May 1998 07:27:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: from prescienttech.com (londo.prescienttech.com [199.103.216.62]) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-980202-1) with ESMTP id HAA19493 for ; Thu, 21 May 1998 07:26:54 -0700 (PDT) Received: from gkar.prescienttech.com. (gkar.prescienttech.com [111.17.19.1]) by prescienttech.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id KAA02728 for ; Thu, 21 May 1998 10:30:30 -0400 From: Rich Pieri To: majordomo-users@greatcircle.com Subject: Re: lists w/ mixed letters References: X-No-Archive: yes Mail-Copies-To: never Date: 21 May 1998 10:30:30 -0400 In-Reply-To: James Ordas's message of "Tue, 19 May 1998 20:29:12 -0400 (EDT)" Message-ID: Lines: 26 X-Mailer: Gnus v5.6.9/Emacs 19.34 Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- James Ordas writes: > How do I set up a list that has upper case letters in it? > ex LHTA-L You cannot. SMTP smashes case, so LHTA-L, lhta-l, LhTa-L, lHtA-L, and any combination of case you care to try comes out the same in the end. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 4.0 Business Edition Charset: noconv iQCVAwUBNWQ6gJ6VRH7BJMxHAQFR1wQAmrZmLo+k8t0GqmJZHw+GQIdCT5VxtB2o CM6yY2IWtu4RZqAcmgqyZJbPwdLllyfF9qwZDjdkU9DdFMx4bxKxF1mhlx+1rE3f 1Q7TTN2HgvuXR9SVcEtNmhFgIIFd0x+K0Kn4vD3yxQiVEUNhcLK5ANGVePHESpV2 QplI0YrQ69U= =J5WX -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- Rich Pieri / Happy Fun Ball contains a liquid Sysmonster, Unix Wrangler / core, which, if exposed due to Prescient Technologies, Inc. / rupture, should not be touched, I speak for myself, not PTI or SWEC / inhaled, or looked at. From majordomo-users-owner Thu May 21 08:24:37 1998 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-970926-1) id IAA20471; Thu, 21 May 1998 08:16:23 -0700 (PDT) Received: from backup.nashbar.com ([12.4.177.8]) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-980202-1) with ESMTP id IAA20464 for ; Thu, 21 May 1998 08:16:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: from sl.nashbar.com ([12.4.177.70]) by backup.nashbar.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id LAA05224 for ; Thu, 21 May 1998 11:22:20 -0400 Reply-To: From: "Stephen Labedz" To: Subject: Listsize of 100,000+ Date: Thu, 21 May 1998 11:21:48 -0400 Message-ID: <000a01bd84cc$2c135060$46b1040c@sl.nashbar.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk My list has over 100,000 subscribers. We were testing out Listserv, but think that their pricing structure is ridiculous. We've been trying out majordomo with a list of 5,000 email addresses to see how it handled the strain, and it worked very well. Does anyone have experience with a list this large? If so, what precations and/or enhancements could I use to better assure delivery? I'm using: Linux majordomo ver.1.94.4 sendmail ver.8.x I've read that a few people have used bulk_mailer to enhance the delivery of majordomo. Where do I get this, and is it difficult to install? Thanks in advance, Steve From majordomo-users-owner Thu May 21 08:54:33 1998 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-970926-1) id IAA21137; Thu, 21 May 1998 08:45:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: from home.samurai.com (samurai.reptiles.org [198.96.117.149]) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-980202-1) with ESMTP id IAA21121 for ; Thu, 21 May 1998 08:45:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from bryanf@localhost) by home.samurai.com (8.9.0/8.9.0) id LAA11616; Thu, 21 May 1998 11:49:22 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <19980521114922.I9368@samurai.com> Date: Thu, 21 May 1998 11:49:22 -0400 From: Bryan Fullerton To: sl@nashbar.com, majordomo-users@GreatCircle.COM Subject: Re: Listsize of 100,000+ References: <000a01bd84cc$2c135060$46b1040c@sl.nashbar.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.92.8i In-Reply-To: <000a01bd84cc$2c135060$46b1040c@sl.nashbar.com>; from Stephen Labedz on Thu, May 21, 1998 at 11:21:48AM -0400 Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk On Thu, May 21, 1998 at 11:21:48AM -0400, Stephen Labedz wrote: > My list has over 100,000 subscribers. That's big. My biggest list is ~35K. I hope you're not spamming people. > Does anyone have experience with a list this large? If so, what precations > and/or enhancements could I use to better assure delivery? > > I'm using: > > Linux > majordomo ver.1.94.4 > sendmail ver.8.x There are two main issues with a list this size (IMHO) - sending and list maintainance. When sending, your big issues will be bandwidth and memory, and to a lesser degree the speed of your nameserver. You might want to look into the flags to Sendmail that allow you to queue without sending - queue everything up, then send it later in standard queue runs. When doing list maintainance the main issue will be disk IO - every time you subscribe or unsubscribe someone from the list it has to search thru the entire list to find if they're there, then re-write the list. I had to upgrade to wide SCSI drives because this was just taking way too long. > I've read that a few people have used bulk_mailer to enhance the delivery of > majordomo. Where do I get this, and is it difficult to install? It's pretty easy to install. In your list-outgoing alias just use bulk_mailer instead of an :include:. You can get it at ftp://cs.utk.edu/pub/moore/bulk_mailer/ - I'm using v1.8, guess I should grab 1.9 and see if it's better/worse. Bryan -- bryanf@samurai.com Home "You know, sometimes I just want to bryanf@canoe.ca Work be a chicken." - Master FehHead bryanf@icomm.ca http://www.icomm.ca http://www.feh.net From majordomo-users-owner Thu May 21 09:23:37 1998 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-970926-1) id JAA21728; Thu, 21 May 1998 09:21:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: from atle.abc.se (atle.abc.se [192.36.170.16]) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-980202-1) with ESMTP id JAA21712 for ; Thu, 21 May 1998 09:21:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (m8698@localhost) by atle.abc.se (8.8.8+Sun/8.8.8) with SMTP id SAA01537; Thu, 21 May 1998 18:24:52 +0200 (MET DST) X-Authentication-Warning: atle.abc.se: m8698 owned process doing -bs Date: Thu, 21 May 1998 17:24:52 +0100 (MET) From: Mats Dufberg X-Sender: m8698@atle To: Rich Pieri cc: majordomo-users@GreatCircle.COM Subject: Re: lists w/ mixed letters In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk On 21 May 1998, Rich Pieri wrote: > You cannot. SMTP smashes case, so LHTA-L, lhta-l, LhTa-L, lHtA-L, and any > combination of case you care to try comes out the same in the end. No, that is not true. The mailbox part of a mailaddress can be case sensitive, and case should be retained. The only exception is "postmaster", which should be considered equal in any case combination. Sendmail, though, smashes case. ----------------------------------------------------------------- Mats Dufberg Mats.Dufberg@abc.se From majordomo-users-owner Thu May 21 09:40:39 1998 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-970926-1) id JAA22033; Thu, 21 May 1998 09:36:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: from sparkie.osl.state.or.us (sparkie.osl.state.or.us [159.121.122.34]) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-980202-1) with SMTP id JAA22024 for ; Thu, 21 May 1998 09:35:58 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from chris@localhost) by sparkie.osl.state.or.us (8.6.9/8.6.9) id JAA24862; Thu, 21 May 1998 09:38:06 -0700 Date: Thu, 21 May 1998 09:38:05 -0700 (PDT) From: Christopher Adams To: majordomo-users@greatcircle.com Subject: blind copies Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk Can anyone explain why some subscribers receive posts as a bcc (blind copy)? Christopher Adams Automated Systems Oregon State Library chris@sparkie.osl.state.or.us From majordomo-users-owner Thu May 21 09:54:48 1998 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-970926-1) id JAA22070; Thu, 21 May 1998 09:37:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: from prescienttech.com (londo.prescienttech.com [199.103.216.62]) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-980202-1) with ESMTP id JAA22063 for ; Thu, 21 May 1998 09:37:40 -0700 (PDT) Received: from gkar.prescienttech.com. (gkar.prescienttech.com [111.17.19.1]) by prescienttech.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id MAA06802 for ; Thu, 21 May 1998 12:41:19 -0400 From: Rich Pieri To: majordomo-users@greatcircle.com Subject: Re: lists w/ mixed letters References: X-No-Archive: yes Mail-Copies-To: never Date: 21 May 1998 12:41:19 -0400 In-Reply-To: Mats Dufberg's message of "Thu, 21 May 1998 17:24:52 +0100 (MET)" Message-ID: Lines: 40 X-Mailer: Gnus v5.6.9/Emacs 19.34 Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Mats Dufberg writes: > No, that is not true. The mailbox part of a mailaddress can be case > sensitive, Nit-pick, the mailbox is the full address, localpart + domainpart. We are discussin the "localpart". RFC 822 states that the MTA must preserve case of the following alphabetic strings: text, qtext, dtext, ctext, quoted-pair, localpart except postmaster. No problem there. My mistake was dropping "SMTP" in for sendmail. I know better than that. Really :). sendmail, as well as pretty much any other Unix MTA, will smash case internally, because the OS itself reserves the use of upper case (specifically, a login typed in upper case is a signal to the tty driver that lower case is not supported on the connecting device). Similarly, VAX/VMS MTAs convert to monocase (not that I know of Mj running on VAX/VMS anywhere). -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 4.0 Business Edition Charset: noconv iQCVAwUBNWRZK56VRH7BJMxHAQEf3AP/bKLyDruLQEulCNdrGdZYTm4beuQlkngy Mw2m0vAAc4MAqusLcnBgQU0NKu09/k/31Q/JZel1maBxtKmQEoNs1bbmFbyFR8IJ pGtDaRpRuMn9lM19SCDj1HpYIwUwES8J+urgLEYk5c9vLumiICZWrvlBdHwkaZpL RDWlWwlVYX8= =aI75 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- Rich Pieri / When not in use, Happy Fun Ball Sysmonster, Unix Wrangler / should be returned to its special Prescient Technologies, Inc. / container and kept under I speak for myself, not PTI or SWEC / refrigeration. From majordomo-users-owner Thu May 21 10:08:37 1998 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-970926-1) id KAA22597; Thu, 21 May 1998 10:01:41 -0700 (PDT) Received: from sina.hpc.uh.edu (Sina.HPC.UH.EDU [129.7.3.5]) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-980202-1) with ESMTP id KAA22582 for ; Thu, 21 May 1998 10:01:33 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from tibbs@localhost) by sina.hpc.uh.edu (8.7.3/8.7.3) id MAA25353; Thu, 21 May 1998 12:05:13 -0500 (CDT) To: Cc: Subject: Re: Listsize of 100,000+ References: <000a01bd84cc$2c135060$46b1040c@sl.nashbar.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 (generated by tm-edit 7.100) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII From: Jason L Tibbitts III Date: 21 May 1998 12:05:13 -0500 In-Reply-To: "Stephen Labedz"'s message of "Thu, 21 May 1998 11:21:48 -0400" Message-ID: Lines: 12 X-Mailer: Gnus v5.6.9/Emacs 19.34 Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk >>>>> "SL" == Stephen Labedz writes: SL> My list has over 100,000 subscribers. It is completely, absolutely meaningless to mention list size without mentioning list traffic patterns and maximum allowed turnaround time. 100000 addresses with one message per month, one week delivery is completely different than 100000 addresses, 500 messages per day, 30 minutes turnaround time. I think I could run the former off of a 386 running Linux. The latter would require something altogether different. - J< From majordomo-users-owner Thu May 21 10:35:25 1998 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-970926-1) id KAA22921; Thu, 21 May 1998 10:11:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ex1.ncsa.uiuc.edu (ex1.ncsa.uiuc.edu [141.142.3.16]) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-980202-1) with ESMTP id KAA22885 for ; Thu, 21 May 1998 10:11:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.ncsa.uiuc.edu (mx1.ncsa.uiuc.edu [141.142.3.15]) by ex1.ncsa.uiuc.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA23094; Thu, 21 May 1998 12:15:03 -0500 (CDT) Received: from ferret.ncsa.uiuc.edu (ferret.ncsa.uiuc.edu [141.142.21.119]) by mx1.ncsa.uiuc.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA28251; Thu, 21 May 1998 12:15:03 -0500 (CDT) Received: (from lindsey@localhost) by ferret.ncsa.uiuc.edu (8.9.0/8.8.5) id MAA27164; Thu, 21 May 1998 12:14:56 -0500 From: Christopher Lindsey Message-Id: <199805211714.MAA27164@ferret.ncsa.uiuc.edu> Subject: Re: lists w/ mixed letters To: jordas@microtronix.ca (James Ordas) Date: Thu, 21 May 1998 12:14:56 -0500 (CDT) Cc: majordomo-users@GreatCircle.COM In-Reply-To: from "James Ordas" at May 19, 98 08:29:12 pm Content-Type: text Content-MD5: 1B2M2Y8AsgTpgAmY7PhCfgAA Content-MD5-Origin: ferret.ncsa.uiuc.edu Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk > How do I set up a list that has upper case letters in it? > ex LHTA-L It all depends on what MTA you're using (sendmail, exim, etc.) I'm really only experienced with sendmail, so I'll just touch that area... sendmail is case sensitive in its handling of aliases. You can allow for case sensitive user names, however, by adding the F=u flag to your Mlocal definition in /etc/sendmail.cf (bear in mind that with the default configuration, you CAN use upper case names to send to the list and deal with majordomo, so long as your list config files are all named in lower case) That still doesn't get you much, though. You would then need to create an actual account for each alias associated with LHTA-L (well, I guess only the actual list "needs" to be upper case -- so the others could be lower case). There will still be some problems. If I remember correctly, majordomo 1.94.4 doesn't allow for uppercase list names in some situations. I think it was the 'who' command and a couple of others that automatically converted the list to lowercase. Oddly enough, other commands still worked. So in short, you can't do it with majordomo 1.94.4 without some patches. You also will have a heck of a time getting sendmail to do what you want. If you want lowercase list names to work as well as uppercase, just make sure that the files for your list are all lowercase -- sendmail and majordomo automagically case- densensitize the appropriate commands and aliases. Chris From majordomo-users-owner Thu May 21 11:08:38 1998 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-970926-1) id KAA24541; Thu, 21 May 1998 10:59:49 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ex1.ncsa.uiuc.edu (ex1.ncsa.uiuc.edu [141.142.3.16]) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-980202-1) with ESMTP id KAA24534 for ; Thu, 21 May 1998 10:59:40 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.ncsa.uiuc.edu (mx1.ncsa.uiuc.edu [141.142.3.15]) by ex1.ncsa.uiuc.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id NAA24894 for ; Thu, 21 May 1998 13:03:21 -0500 (CDT) Received: from ferret.ncsa.uiuc.edu (ferret.ncsa.uiuc.edu [141.142.21.119]) by mx1.ncsa.uiuc.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id NAA01795 for ; Thu, 21 May 1998 13:03:21 -0500 (CDT) Received: (from lindsey@localhost) by ferret.ncsa.uiuc.edu (8.9.0/8.8.5) id NAA27467 for majordomo-users@GreatCircle.COM; Thu, 21 May 1998 13:03:15 -0500 From: Christopher Lindsey Message-Id: <199805211803.NAA27467@ferret.ncsa.uiuc.edu> Subject: Re: lists w/ mixed letters To: majordomo-users@GreatCircle.COM Date: Thu, 21 May 1998 13:03:14 -0500 (CDT) In-Reply-To: <199805211714.MAA27164@ferret.ncsa.uiuc.edu> from "Christopher Lindsey" at May 21, 98 12:14:56 pm Content-Type: text Content-MD5: 1B2M2Y8AsgTpgAmY7PhCfgAA Content-MD5-Origin: ferret.ncsa.uiuc.edu Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk > sendmail is case sensitive in its handling of aliases. You can Argh. Read that as "case insensitive". ^^ Chris From majordomo-users-owner Thu May 21 11:09:05 1998 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-970926-1) id KAA24465; Thu, 21 May 1998 10:56:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: from prescienttech.com (londo.prescienttech.com [199.103.216.62]) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-980202-1) with ESMTP id KAA24458 for ; Thu, 21 May 1998 10:56:15 -0700 (PDT) Received: from gkar.prescienttech.com. (gkar.prescienttech.com [111.17.19.1]) by prescienttech.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id NAA09183 for ; Thu, 21 May 1998 13:59:53 -0400 From: Rich Pieri To: majordomo-users@greatcircle.com Subject: Re: blind copies References: X-No-Archive: yes Mail-Copies-To: never Date: 21 May 1998 13:59:53 -0400 In-Reply-To: Christopher Adams's message of "Thu, 21 May 1998 09:38:05 -0700 (PDT)" Message-ID: Lines: 24 X-Mailer: Gnus v5.6.9/Emacs 19.34 Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Christopher Adams writes: > Can anyone explain why some subscribers receive posts as a bcc (blind copy)? Because some posters send copies as (blind) carbon copies. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 4.0 Business Edition Charset: noconv iQCVAwUBNWRrmJ6VRH7BJMxHAQEMXQQAvP6RACf2Lawg7JxxDfRM3OcPQUePfrSj fQkRRvXLapGX1bljhzlyc/hIvUtuPC9Y1EqAAWQv4d64lIVMGHpWrRg10M6sxjo5 Jnf41voCplG25ngDrwnIpFTCy/KIdOBA2FpPSqUy9qWimOW+VXf1kxy2RK1BchHK VnUd4R9da0M= =F0+m -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- Rich Pieri / Warning: pregnant women, the Sysmonster, Unix Wrangler / elderly, and children under 10 Prescient Technologies, Inc. / should avoid prolonged exposure to I speak for myself, not PTI or SWEC / Happy Fun Ball. From majordomo-users-owner Thu May 21 12:08:54 1998 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-970926-1) id LAA26417; Thu, 21 May 1998 11:59:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: from sass165.sandia.gov (mailgate.sandia.gov [132.175.109.1]) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-980202-1) with ESMTP id LAA26397 for ; Thu, 21 May 1998 11:59:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: from sahp666.sandia.gov (sahp666.sandia.gov [134.253.48.10]) by sass165.sandia.gov (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id NAA08040; Thu, 21 May 1998 13:02:59 -0600 (MDT) Received: by sahp666.sandia.gov with Internet Mail Service (5.5.1960.3) id ; Thu, 21 May 1998 13:03:01 -0600 Message-ID: <7991403ECD77D111A916080009A54C170BF9B1@sahp666.sandia.gov> From: "Davis, Robert E" To: "'Rich Pieri'" , majordomo-users@GreatCircle.COM Subject: RE: blind copies Date: Thu, 21 May 1998 13:02:55 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.1960.3) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk All these smart A.. replies to the list are getting very tiring. How about at least mentioning microsoft mail recipients. -----Original Message----- From: Rich Pieri [mailto:rich.pieri@prescienttech.com] Sent: Thursday, May 21, 1998 12:00 PM To: majordomo-users@GreatCircle.COM Subject: Re: blind copies -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Christopher Adams writes: > Can anyone explain why some subscribers receive posts as a bcc (blind copy)? Because some posters send copies as (blind) carbon copies. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 4.0 Business Edition Charset: noconv iQCVAwUBNWRrmJ6VRH7BJMxHAQEMXQQAvP6RACf2Lawg7JxxDfRM3OcPQUePfrSj fQkRRvXLapGX1bljhzlyc/hIvUtuPC9Y1EqAAWQv4d64lIVMGHpWrRg10M6sxjo5 Jnf41voCplG25ngDrwnIpFTCy/KIdOBA2FpPSqUy9qWimOW+VXf1kxy2RK1BchHK VnUd4R9da0M= =F0+m -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- Rich Pieri / Warning: pregnant women, the Sysmonster, Unix Wrangler / elderly, and children under 10 Prescient Technologies, Inc. / should avoid prolonged exposure to I speak for myself, not PTI or SWEC / Happy Fun Ball. From majordomo-users-owner Thu May 21 12:23:37 1998 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-970926-1) id MAA27306; Thu, 21 May 1998 12:16:54 -0700 (PDT) Received: from home.samurai.com (samurai.reptiles.org [198.96.117.149]) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-980202-1) with ESMTP id MAA27298 for ; Thu, 21 May 1998 12:16:49 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from bryanf@localhost) by home.samurai.com (8.9.0/8.9.0) id PAA24254; Thu, 21 May 1998 15:20:29 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <19980521152029.E21123@samurai.com> Date: Thu, 21 May 1998 15:20:29 -0400 From: Bryan Fullerton To: "Davis, Robert E" , majordomo-users@GreatCircle.COM Subject: Re: blind copies References: <7991403ECD77D111A916080009A54C170BF9B1@sahp666.sandia.gov> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.92.8i In-Reply-To: <7991403ECD77D111A916080009A54C170BF9B1@sahp666.sandia.gov>; from Davis, Robert E on Thu, May 21, 1998 at 01:02:55PM -0600 Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk On Thu, May 21, 1998 at 01:02:55PM -0600, "Davis, Robert E" wrote: > All these smart A.. replies to the list are getting very tiring. > How about at least mentioning microsoft mail recipients. What about them? Mentioning them without explaining what you mean isn't much more useful than not mentioning them at all. And how about trimming replies? Adding two lines to the top of a long message in a reply without trimming is just plain irritating. Bryan -- bryanf@samurai.com Home "You know, sometimes I just want to bryanf@canoe.ca Work be a chicken." - Master FehHead bryanf@icomm.ca http://www.icomm.ca http://www.feh.net From majordomo-users-owner Thu May 21 12:47:56 1998 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-970926-1) id MAA27745; Thu, 21 May 1998 12:27:18 -0700 (PDT) Received: (mcb@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-980202-1) id MAA27737 for majordomo-users@greatcircle.com; Thu, 21 May 1998 12:27:16 -0700 (PDT) Received: from K3.peakpeak.com (dns1.peakpeak.com [207.174.103.3]) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-980202-1) with ESMTP id XAA10306 for ; Wed, 20 May 1998 23:01:36 -0700 (PDT) Received: from goboe (goboe.oneup.com [199.165.157.23]) by K3.peakpeak.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id AAA13706 for ; Thu, 21 May 1998 00:05:12 -0600 Message-Id: <199805210605.AAA13706@K3.peakpeak.com> X-Sender: chrism@pop.peakpeak.com (Unverified) X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.0 Date: Thu, 21 May 1998 00:02:42 -0600 To: majordomo-users@greatcircle.com From: Chris Magnuson Subject: announce-only lists Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk This has to be documented somewhere, I feel like an idiot. How do you set up announce-only lists? Do you just set moderation on and filter any mail that comes to the list that isn't subscribe or unsubscribe? Thanks, Chris From majordomo-users-owner Thu May 21 12:53:55 1998 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-970926-1) id MAA27703; Thu, 21 May 1998 12:26:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: (mcb@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-980202-1) id MAA27695 for majordomo-users@greatcircle.com; Thu, 21 May 1998 12:26:22 -0700 (PDT) Received: from server01.nexnet.com.mx (server01.nexnet.com.mx [167.114.26.118]) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-980202-1) with ESMTP id PAA04208 for ; Wed, 20 May 1998 15:17:02 -0700 (PDT) Received: from jr.nexnet.com.mx (nmepc08.nexnet.com.mx [167.114.26.104]) by server01.nexnet.com.mx (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id RAA17728 for ; Wed, 20 May 1998 17:27:01 -0500 (CDT) Message-Id: <3.0.3.32.19980520172410.0070c034@nexnet.com.mx> X-Sender: jr@nexnet.com.mx X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.3 (32) Date: Wed, 20 May 1998 17:24:10 -0600 To: Majordomo-Users@GreatCircle.COM From: Jair Borraz Subject: Problems with majordomo Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk I have installed majordomo in a FreeBSD machine, evere thing seems to be working well, but when i try to use it nothing is working i cant see the lists or subscribe to any one i run the wrapper command an i get the next message ld.so failed: Can't find shared library "libnet.so.0.92" can any body helpme please, i'm really interested in use this program thanks in advance From majordomo-users-owner Thu May 21 13:08:30 1998 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-970926-1) id MAA27692; Thu, 21 May 1998 12:26:16 -0700 (PDT) Received: (mcb@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-980202-1) id MAA27682 for majordomo-users@greatcircle.com; Thu, 21 May 1998 12:26:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: from scooter.sendmail.com (scooter.Sendmail.COM [206.189.69.23]) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-980202-1) with ESMTP id PAA03880 for ; Wed, 20 May 1998 15:04:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from gshapiro@localhost) by scooter.sendmail.com (8.9.0/8.9.0) id PAA08549; Wed, 20 May 1998 15:07:45 -0700 From: Gregory Neil Shapiro MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <13667.21553.531125.60311@scooter.sendmail.com> Date: Wed, 20 May 1998 15:07:45 -0700 (PDT) To: "Pug Bainter" Cc: sendmail-beta@sendmail.org, majordomo-users@greatcircle.com, barr@cis.ohio-state.edu Subject: Majordomo and Sendmail 8.9... In-Reply-To: <199805151915.OAA28159@earth.globeset.com> References: <199805151915.OAA28159@earth.globeset.com> X-Mailer: VM 6.47 under 20.4 "Emerald" XEmacs Lucid Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk pug> What I would like to be able to do is to make Majordomo non-group pug> writable, but I don't want to risk this on a live system. Can it pug> successfully be done without any problems? Yes, I'm doing it and have been for quite a while. The files majordomo changes (Log, lists, majordomo directory itself) should be owned my majordomo but not group writable. From majordomo-users-owner Thu May 21 13:09:21 1998 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-970926-1) id MAA27679; Thu, 21 May 1998 12:26:10 -0700 (PDT) Received: (mcb@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-980202-1) id MAA27655 for majordomo-users@greatcircle.com; Thu, 21 May 1998 12:26:04 -0700 (PDT) Received: from scnc.lisd.k12.mi.us (scnc.lisd.k12.mi.us [198.108.64.12]) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-980202-1) with ESMTP id MAA00333 for ; Wed, 20 May 1998 12:53:54 -0700 (PDT) Received: from Jkiser.lisd.k12.mi.us ([198.108.64.34]) by scnc.lisd.k12.mi.us (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id PAA05497 for ; Wed, 20 May 1998 15:30:51 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <3.0.3.32.19980520152801.006aab2c@mail.lisd.k12.mi.us> X-Sender: jkiser@mail.lisd.k12.mi.us X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.3 (32) Date: Wed, 20 May 1998 15:28:01 -0700 To: majordomo-users@greatcircle.com From: Jan Kiser Subject: Setting up lists Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk Hi, I was wondering if someone could refresh my memory as to the command I need to use to set up a new Majordomo mailing list. I created several lists a couple of months ago. I have all kinds of notes, but apparently felt that I would never forget the command I need to use to actually create the list. I would appreciate any information, which you could send me on this subject. Thanks. Jan Kiser Lenawee ISD 4107 N. Adrian Highway Adrian, MI 49221 Phone 517-265-1634 Fax 517-265-7405 e-mail jkiser@mail.lisd.k12.mi.us From majordomo-users-owner Thu May 21 13:23:02 1998 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-970926-1) id MAA27769; Thu, 21 May 1998 12:28:49 -0700 (PDT) Received: from sws5.ctd.ornl.gov (sws5.ctd.ornl.gov [128.219.128.125]) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-980202-1) with SMTP id MAA27762 for ; Thu, 21 May 1998 12:28:40 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 507 invoked by uid 3995); 21 May 1998 19:32:20 -0000 Message-ID: <19980521193220.506.qmail@sws5.ctd.ornl.gov> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Dave Sill To: majordomo-users@GreatCircle.COM Subject: Re: Listsize of 100,000+ In-Reply-To: References: <000a01bd84cc$2c135060$46b1040c@sl.nashbar.com> X-Mailer: VM 6.34 under 20.3 "Vatican City" XEmacs Lucid Organization: Oak Ridge National Lab, Oak Ridge, Tenn., USA X-Face: "p~Q]mg{;e*}YR|)&Q/&Q\*~5UWfZX34;5M wrote: >>>>>> "SL" == Stephen Labedz writes: > >SL> My list has over 100,000 subscribers. > >It is completely, absolutely meaningless to mention list size without >mentioning list traffic patterns and maximum allowed turnaround time. Not to mention the distribution of zubscribers (local vs. remote) and the rate of zubscribes/unzubscribes. -Dave From majordomo-users-owner Thu May 21 13:23:53 1998 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-970926-1) id MAA27786; Thu, 21 May 1998 12:29:11 -0700 (PDT) Received: from sws5.ctd.ornl.gov (sws5.ctd.ornl.gov [128.219.128.125]) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-980202-1) with SMTP id MAA27776 for ; Thu, 21 May 1998 12:29:02 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 512 invoked by uid 3995); 21 May 1998 19:32:43 -0000 Message-ID: <19980521193243.509.qmail@sws5.ctd.ornl.gov> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Dave Sill To: majordomo-users@greatcircle.com Subject: Re: lists w/ mixed letters In-Reply-To: References: X-Mailer: VM 6.34 under 20.3 "Vatican City" XEmacs Lucid Organization: Oak Ridge National Lab, Oak Ridge, Tenn., USA X-Face: "p~Q]mg{;e*}YR|)&Q/&Q\*~5UWfZX34;5M wrote: > >sendmail, as well as pretty much any other Unix MTA, qmail, of course, is the exception to the rule. >will smash case >internally, because the OS itself reserves the use of upper case >(specifically, a login typed in upper case is a signal to the tty driver >that lower case is not supported on the connecting device). That's a good explanation of why mixed-case usernames aren't used, but that only indirectly explains why some MTA's smash case. That doesn't explain why aliases, which aren't associated with usersnames, need to be smashed. -Dave From majordomo-users-owner Thu May 21 13:27:23 1998 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-970926-1) id MAA27723; Thu, 21 May 1998 12:27:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: (mcb@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-980202-1) id MAA27713 for majordomo-users@greatcircle.com; Thu, 21 May 1998 12:27:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: from krumm.commline.com ([209.36.239.51]) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-980202-1) with ESMTP id QAA05494; Wed, 20 May 1998 16:33:17 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (dmbong@localhost) by krumm.commline.com (8.8.5/8.8.8) with SMTP id TAA05683; Wed, 20 May 1998 19:47:52 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from dmbong@commline.com) Date: Wed, 20 May 1998 19:47:52 -0400 (EDT) From: "Brian L. Heess" To: Majordomo Users List cc: Majordomo Workers Subject: FAQ Engine/creation Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk This doesn't deal directly with Majordomo, BUT, quessing that many of you here are also the ones managing the mailing lists, and many have FAQ's, I'd like to find outabout how some of you do things. What standards do you use for the format of the FAQ? (numbering, etc) Anybody use Jeff Murphy's FAQ Engine (it's pretty cool)? (I'd actually either like to port it to som other database, since it uses Remedy, a commercial system, in the backgound) [ http://sware.cit.buffalo.edu/FE/ ] I've noticed that many FAQ's are done using emacs or LaTeX or something like that, and I'd like to how to do some stuff like that. I think that there many be cool macros for FAQs or something like that. I'd prefer to work on my Mac or in UNIX though Windows in an option. The reason I am interested in the FAQ Engine is that it provides a very nice web interface to FAQs. You can see it in action with the ISC-DHCP FAQ: http://arsinfo.cit.buffalo.edu/FAQ/faq.cgi?pkg=ISC%20DHCP Any help is more than appreciated, URLs for formatting, standards, software are great! Thanks and Cheers! -Brian From majordomo-users-owner Thu May 21 13:28:53 1998 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-970926-1) id MAA27645; Thu, 21 May 1998 12:26:02 -0700 (PDT) Received: (mcb@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-980202-1) id MAA27626 for majordomo-users@greatcircle.com; Thu, 21 May 1998 12:25:55 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pony-2.mail.digex.net (pony-2.mail.digex.net [204.91.241.6]) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-980202-1) with ESMTP id LAA28996 for ; Wed, 20 May 1998 11:53:50 -0700 (PDT) Received: from hal2002.silvon.com ([209.116.119.100]) by pony-2.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id OAA13073 for ; Wed, 20 May 1998 14:56:47 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <199805201856.OAA13073@pony-2.mail.digex.net> Received: from DEVDMG ([192.168.11.226]) by hal2002.silvon.com with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service Version 5.5.1960.3) id KXDHTLM0; Wed, 20 May 1998 13:59:20 -0500 From: "David Gibbs" Organization: Silvon Software, Inc. To: majordomo-users@greatcircle.com Date: Wed, 20 May 1998 13:58:27 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Subject: FINDMAIL.COM Reply-to: david.gibbs@silvon.com Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk Folks: Check your subscriber lists "r@findmail.com" (or something to that effect)... you might find them archving your mailing lists without permission. I saw a subscription notification message come through with that address and checked out the web page... they got about 5 messages, but I nixed the subscription then and there. I will be sending a rather sternly worded message to them as soon as I get home. Best Regard! David (aka david@midrange.com) -- David Gibbs Sr. Software Engineer Silvon Software 900 Oakmont Ln, Suite 400 Westmont, IL 60559 (630) 655-3313 x6479 http://www.silvon.com mailto:david.gibbs@silvon.com Opinions expressed are strictly my own and do not necessarily reflect those of my employer You'll only see your obstacles each time you take your eyes off of your goal! -- DMRoth From majordomo-users-owner Thu May 21 13:36:18 1998 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-970926-1) id MAA27575; Thu, 21 May 1998 12:25:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: (mcb@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-980202-1) id MAA27560 for majordomo-users@greatcircle.com; Thu, 21 May 1998 12:25:11 -0700 (PDT) Received: from cs.sandia.gov (cs.sandia.gov [132.175.13.2]) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-980202-1) with SMTP id LAA28549 for ; Wed, 20 May 1998 11:00:15 -0700 (PDT) Received: from squirrel.cs.sandia.gov.noname by cs.sandia.gov with smtp (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0ycB1B-000XOoC; Wed, 20 May 98 09:43 MDT Received: by squirrel.cs.sandia.gov.noname (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA27262; Wed, 20 May 98 09:35:17 MDT Date: Wed, 20 May 98 09:35:17 MDT From: deelisc@squirrel.cs.sandia.gov (Dana E. Elisco) Message-Id: <9805201535.AA27262@squirrel.cs.sandia.gov.noname> To: majordomo-users@greatcircle.com Subject: majordomo problem Cc: deelisc@jemez Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk We have been using majordomo for years and have many lists. Both open and closed. We recently upgraded our mail server to a Dec machine (Digital Unix/Osf) from a Sun sparc machine and upgraded majordomo from 1.92 to 1.94.4. All seems well except one very annoying problem: When a list maintainer tries to approve a request such as an "unsubscribe" majordomo comes back with an error as follows: "MAJORDOMO ABORT (mj_majordomo)!!" "chown(1, 20009, "/usr2/local/lib/majordomo/lists/adm-test.new"): Not owner" The particulars are: listserv is UID and GID 20009 and of course daemon is 1, the lock file is created "L.listname" with perms 660 owner listserv and group listserv. It appears that when an unsubscribe is done tehre is a temp file created named "listname.new". This file is created but empty and I believe is a temp copy of the original list so a users can be deleted and then the list is copied back however this is where (I think) the problem comes in. Majordomo tries to chown the .new file and cannot resulting in the above error. I have run the config-test and all is well, in fact subscribe works fine. If anyone knows of what this error is caused by or if there is a bug (and patch) please let me know. It would be much appreciated. Thanks Dana Elisco Work: 505-845-7557 or 505-280-8187 (mobile) deelisc@cs.sandia.gov or sys-admin@cs.sandia.gov Sandia Nat. Labs Dept. 9221 From majordomo-users-owner Thu May 21 13:39:40 1998 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-970926-1) id NAA00349; Thu, 21 May 1998 13:38:23 -0700 (PDT) Received: from prescienttech.com (londo.prescienttech.com [199.103.216.62]) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-980202-1) with ESMTP id NAA00332 for ; Thu, 21 May 1998 13:38:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: from gkar.prescienttech.com. (gkar.prescienttech.com [111.17.19.1]) by prescienttech.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id QAA14914 for ; Thu, 21 May 1998 16:41:53 -0400 From: Rich Pieri To: majordomo-users@greatcircle.com Subject: Re: lists w/ mixed letters References: <19980521193243.509.qmail@sws5.ctd.ornl.gov> X-No-Archive: yes Mail-Copies-To: never Date: 21 May 1998 16:41:53 -0400 In-Reply-To: Dave Sill's message of "Thu, 21 May 98 15:32:42 EST" Message-ID: Lines: 28 X-Mailer: Gnus v5.6.9/Emacs 19.34 Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Dave Sill writes: > That's a good explanation of why mixed-case usernames aren't used, but > that only indirectly explains why some MTA's smash case. That doesn't > explain why aliases, which aren't associated with usersnames, need to > be smashed. Because there is an abstraction inside those MTAs which separates mailboxes from login names. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 4.0 Business Edition Charset: noconv iQCVAwUBNWSRjJ6VRH7BJMxHAQGZtAQAhFaX9FnYLc5/URnkZ6DWY9hR9mzlclFN PyopB6rJr2zE4lMPK+Rd7+onHZ2Mojgl1xl+OjAL+4+0oqKZEcWjhf87omXb8Ty6 oawTYPHpEfgOBtbhfYLuTyNQvHl84SyAg13ktPItMW8W2KnhInn5Obw0rpExUz/s OZvGLcd1Yes= =fZIg -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- Rich Pieri / Do not use Happy Fun Ball on Sysmonster, Unix Wrangler / concrete. Prescient Technologies, Inc. / I speak for myself, not PTI or SWEC / From majordomo-users-owner Thu May 21 13:46:11 1998 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-970926-1) id NAA28682; Thu, 21 May 1998 13:01:55 -0700 (PDT) Received: from post.mail.demon.net (post-11.mail.demon.net [194.217.242.40]) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-980202-1) with SMTP id NAA28675 for ; Thu, 21 May 1998 13:01:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: from (arzana.co.uk) [158.152.11.185] by post.mail.demon.net with smtp (Exim 1.82 #2) id 0ycbac-0002Wr-00; Thu, 21 May 1998 20:05:23 +0000 Received: by arzana.co.uk (NX5.67g/NX3.0M) id AA29824; Thu, 21 May 98 20:39:15 +0100 Message-Id: <9805211939.AA29824@arzana.co.uk> Content-Type: text/plain Mime-Version: 1.0 (NeXT Mail 4.2mach v148) X-Face: "DUA/H"BiYj%_*yvwAjLR?ycXwS|*3A/A"NqH4x9&Jbr6+tSCj!UL{aZ(nmNy$(s#S-L84 /%GY[_m/j*[6=N+\k7G[FhME}GRZ]k[Lv32S];%8Dm_KQC*'L?%8OnhZzAMVAgc).r0,xh fP_RYI[Z44Z!Q-PWa5u>@7!f{W9x]+V*)"#NJ5LQa/{ In-Reply-To: <199805211714.MAA27164@ferret.ncsa.uiuc.edu> X-Nextstep-Mailer: Mail 4.2mach (Enhance 2.0b6) Received: by NeXT.Mailer (1.148) From: Andrew_Forkes@arzana.co.uk Date: Thu, 21 May 98 20:39:10 +0100 To: majordomo-users@GreatCircle.COM Subject: majordom user and aliases Reply-To: Andrew_Forkes@arzana.co.uk References: <199805211714.MAA27164@ferret.ncsa.uiuc.edu> Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk If I address an email to "Majordomo" it bounces, but if it's addressed to "majordomo" it's fine. Could dome kind soul please tell me where is this fine grained discretion is determined, and how to control it ? majorodomo.aliases, or perhaps sendmail.cf ? Andrew From majordomo-users-owner Thu May 21 13:47:39 1998 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-970926-1) id MAA27467; Thu, 21 May 1998 12:24:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: from prescienttech.com (londo.prescienttech.com [199.103.216.62]) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-980202-1) with ESMTP id MAA27456 for ; Thu, 21 May 1998 12:24:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: from gkar.prescienttech.com. (gkar.prescienttech.com [111.17.19.1]) by prescienttech.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id PAA12649 for ; Thu, 21 May 1998 15:28:08 -0400 From: Rich Pieri To: majordomo-users@greatcircle.com Subject: Re: blind copies References: <7991403ECD77D111A916080009A54C170BF9B1@sahp666.sandia.gov> X-No-Archive: yes Mail-Copies-To: never Date: 21 May 1998 15:28:08 -0400 In-Reply-To: "Davis, Robert E"'s message of "Thu, 21 May 1998 13:02:55 -0600" Message-ID: Lines: 33 X-Mailer: Gnus v5.6.9/Emacs 19.34 Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Davis, Robert E writes: > All these smart A.. replies to the list are getting very tiring. > How about at least mentioning microsoft mail recipients. Would you prefer, "Microsoft Mail and Lotus cc:Mail are so abhorently broken that if you use them it is your problem; don't bother the rest of us who are using mail systems that work correctly"? With a mail system that works correctly, the reason for messages appearing to be blind carbon copies is because someone sent a message to the list with a BCC to the person receiving the blind copy. My answer was not a smart-assed answer; it was an accurate description of what happens with mail systems that are not brain-dead. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 4.0 Business Edition Charset: noconv iQCVAwUBNWSAR56VRH7BJMxHAQHsSQP/b8kKV2zLIoXP0HxnsbwwcbUrdrXRcKCQ t2iHtnZHryTGuVxJTQG1nUbs8sx8vic7UiBLRXNJ+0nQOrYVpQ2MPHfDLY++Y/tg cBkoPmnUDZvij/etV7kiNy11tl/sHkd839EhNmZZgGTU5Oa4DYzh9feyrFRH9c+i t83EGnVJzfg= =XCa9 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- Rich Pieri / If Happy Fun Ball begins to smoke, Sysmonster, Unix Wrangler / get away immediately. Seek shelter Prescient Technologies, Inc. / and cover head. I speak for myself, not PTI or SWEC / From majordomo-users-owner Thu May 21 13:54:26 1998 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-970926-1) id NAA01119; Thu, 21 May 1998 13:51:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: from NameSrv.mountain.net (Namesrv.Mountain.Net [198.77.1.1]) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-980202-1) with ESMTP id NAA01102 for ; Thu, 21 May 1998 13:51:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mountain.net (tec.Mountain.Net [198.77.1.37]) by NameSrv.mountain.net (8.8.7/8.8.5) with ESMTP id QAA20789; Thu, 21 May 1998 16:54:27 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <356493FB.E531E667@mountain.net> Date: Thu, 21 May 1998 16:52:11 -0400 From: Tim Connolly Organization: Mountain.Net, Inc. X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: David Epstein CC: mju Subject: Re: mungedomain References: <199805211438.PAA07656@primrose.csv.warwick.ac.uk> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk both of your examples should work if/only if... person@place.edu is zubscribed. I stress that because if person@server1.place.edu is subscribed and mail comes in from person@server2.place.edu, it will bounce. Seems obvious to most, but its not to others. David Epstein wrote: > Suppose person@place.edu is zubscribed. > > Does mungedomain recognize > person@machine.department.place.edu > as being the same? > > Or will it only recognize > person@department.place.edu > as being the same. > > David Epstein -- Tim Connolly tec@mountain.net MountainNet, Inc. -- (304) 594-9075 ext. 37 2816 Cranberry Square -- fax (304) 594-9088 Morgantown, WV 26505 -- If you sit down at a poker game and don't see a sucker, -- get up. You're the sucker. (Story of my life) From majordomo-users-owner Thu May 21 13:54:36 1998 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-970926-1) id MAA27315; Thu, 21 May 1998 12:17:11 -0700 (PDT) Received: from smailva1.slma.com (smailva1.slma.com [167.104.32.43]) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-980202-1) with ESMTP id MAA27308 for ; Thu, 21 May 1998 12:17:04 -0700 (PDT) Received: from smailva1-gw.slma.com by smailva1.slma.com (X.400 to RFC822 Gateway); Thu, 21 May 1998 15:15:48 -0400 X400-Received: by mta MTASallieMae in /c=US/admd= /prmd=SallieMae/; Relayed; 21 May 1998 15:15:47 -0400 X400-Received: by /c=US/admd= /prmd=SallieMae/; Relayed; 21 May 1998 15:15:47 -0400 X400-MTS-Identifier: [/c=US/admd= /prmd=SallieMae/; 0572035647D6300F-MTASallieMae] Content-Identifier: 0572035647D6300F Content-Return: Allowed X400-Content-Type: P2-1988 ( 22 ) Conversion: Allowed Original-Encoded-Information-Types: IA5-Text Disclose-Recipients: Prohibited Alternate-Recipient: Allowed X400-Originator: Andrew.Witt@slma.com X400-Recipients: non-disclosure; Message-Id: <"0572035647D6300F*/c=us/admd= /prmd=salliemae/o=salliemae/ou=Notes/ou=71020/s=Witt/g=Andrew/"@MHS> Date: 21 May 1998 15:15:47 -0400 From: Andrew Witt To: Majordomo-Users@GreatCircle.COM (IPM Return requested) Subject: Re: blind copies MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk >> Can anyone explain why some subscribers receive posts as a bcc (blind >> copy)? > Because some posters send copies as (blind) carbon copies. I don't think it is as simple as that. For example, my copy of the message that you posted, Rich, shows: To: majordomo-users@GreatCircle.COM cc: (bcc: Andrew Witt/SallieMae) and I assume that you did not Bcc: your reply. Moreover, among my own users, each recipient of a message that comes to them via Majordomo sees the message as if it were Bcc:'d to them. I have NEVER seen a counter example at my site. Having said all that, I think the answer IS simple: I think that it is an e-mail client issue; i.e., what does the client do with various SMTP headers? My users use cc:Mail or Lotus Notes, neither one of which is especially SMTP-friendly. IMHO, they both do rather arbitrary things with SMTP headers. I have noticed that the Bcc: crap does NOT show up on messages that go through Majordomo to an account for which my e-mail client is Pine. So this is a case of Stupid E-mail Clients, not Stupid Users. - Andrew +-------------------------------------------------------------------+ | SallieMae | Andrew Witt, Mail Team | | Helping Make Education Possible | Helping Make SallieMae Possible | | http://www.salliemae.com | andrew.witt@slma.com | +-------------------------------------------------------------------+ From majordomo-users-owner Thu May 21 13:58:29 1998 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-970926-1) id MAA27256; Thu, 21 May 1998 12:16:10 -0700 (PDT) Received: from sws5.ctd.ornl.gov (sws5.ctd.ornl.gov [128.219.128.125]) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-980202-1) with SMTP id MAA27249 for ; Thu, 21 May 1998 12:16:02 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 437 invoked by uid 3995); 21 May 1998 19:19:44 -0000 Message-ID: <19980521191944.436.qmail@sws5.ctd.ornl.gov> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Dave Sill To: Christopher Adams Cc: majordomo-users@greatcircle.com Subject: Re: blind copies In-Reply-To: References: X-Mailer: VM 6.34 under 20.3 "Vatican City" XEmacs Lucid Organization: Oak Ridge National Lab, Oak Ridge, Tenn., USA X-Face: "p~Q]mg{;e*}YR|)&Q/&Q\*~5UWfZX34;5M wrote: >Can anyone explain why some subscribers receive posts as a bcc (blind copy)? This is a long explanation, but if you're not an SMTP guru it's probably worth reading. SMTP is kind of like snail mail in that you have a letter (message) inside an envelope. The letter has the addresses of the sender and recipient(s) (e.g., the To/From/CC header fields) but the envelope has the true sender/recipient addresses used to deliver the letter. In the case of SMTP, the envelope addresses are conveyed by the SMTP MAIL (sender or return path) and RCPT (recipient) commands. Just like the post office uses the envelope addresses to control delivery or return undeliverable letters, so SMTP uses its envelope addresses. If a message can't be delivered to one of the recipients, a bounce message is sent to the sender (return path). Let's look at some typical scenarios. Case 1: User-to-user User A sends a message to user B. The From header field is A, the To header field is B, the envelope return path is A, and the envelope recipient is B. E.g.: (Envelope) Sender: A Recipient: B (Message) From: A To: B body of message Case 2: User-to-user with BCC User A sends a message to user B and BCC's user C. The From field is A, the To field is B, the envelope return path is A, and the envelope recipients are B and C: (Envelope) Sender: A Recipients: B, C (Message) From: A To: B body of message Case 3: User-to-list User A sends a message to list LIST. List mail is a little tricky because the message is first delivered to the mailing list resender, then forwarded by the resender to the subscribers. The first hop is like Case 1 except the Recipient/To is the list submission address: (Envelope) Sender: A Recipients: LIST (Message) From: A To: LIST body of message The second hop is like Case 2 except the Recipients are the subscribers and the Sender is the list owner alias: (Envelope) Sender: LIST owner Recipients: LIST subscribers (Message) From: A To: LIST body of message Note that by setting the Sender on the second hop to the list owner address, bounces to undeliverable recipients are directed to the list owner rather than the originator of the message. Of course, some MTA's aren't fully SMTP-compliant, and they grab a return address from the headers. Hope this helps explain the whole SMTP/BCC situation. -Dave From majordomo-users-owner Thu May 21 14:10:24 1998 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-970926-1) id NAA01520; Thu, 21 May 1998 13:57:23 -0700 (PDT) Received: from roxy.sfo.com (roxy.sfo.com [205.162.14.50]) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-980202-1) with ESMTP id NAA01504 for ; Thu, 21 May 1998 13:57:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: from office (sf-090.sfo.com [207.33.216.90]) by roxy.sfo.com (8.7.5/8.7.5) with SMTP id OAA22855 for ; Thu, 21 May 1998 14:00:48 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <2.2.32.19980521210031.009eadfc@pop.sfo.com> X-Sender: soundbyte@pop.sfo.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 2.2 (32) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Thu, 21 May 1998 14:00:31 -0700 To: majordomo-users@GreatCircle.COM From: Allen Subject: Numbering posts Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk At 12:02 AM 5/21/1998 -0600, Chris Magnuson wrote: >This has to be documented somewhere, I feel like an idiot. And I feel like Chris 8-> But my question is different: I've just migrated to Majordomo from Smartlist which allows each post to be numbered and the number is incremented for the next. This functions much like the does but is for the individual posts. I can't seem to find any reference to a function like this. What am I missing? Thanks, Allen From majordomo-users-owner Thu May 21 14:24:35 1998 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-970926-1) id OAA02249; Thu, 21 May 1998 14:11:54 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mailserver.montrealnet.net (mailserver.montrealnet.net [207.139.119.5]) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-980202-1) with ESMTP id OAA02242 for ; Thu, 21 May 1998 14:11:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: from spanky (unverified [207.139.119.41]) by mailserver.montrealnet.net (Rockliffe SMTPRA 2.1.2) with SMTP id for ; Thu, 21 May 1998 17:12:01 -0400 Message-ID: <3564994B.30538476@elecomm.net> Date: Thu, 21 May 1998 17:14:51 -0400 From: Francesco Fortugno Organization: Elecomm Corp. X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01 (X11; I; Linux 2.0.29 i586) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: majordomo-users@GreatCircle.COM Subject: list-owner Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk hi there, I have installed majordomo and all seems to work except for 1 little error that's not correctly setup. Concerning the actual setup of the owner-list@domain.com The majordomo.aliases file has this entry internal: "|/home/majordomo-1.94.4/wrapper resend -l internal internal-list" internal-list: :include:/home/majordomo-1.94.4/lists/internal owner-internal: you internal-owner: you internal-request: you But whenever I send email to owner-internal@elecomm.net, I get user unknown. Did I miss anything? Does the "you" actually have to be an email address, I tried that but it didn't work. thank you in advance. frank. -- EleComm Corporation - http://www.elecomm.net|http://www.10mb.com Francesco Fortugno Systems Analyst |10mb Technical Support Email: Fortugno@elecomm.net URL:http://www.10mb.com/fortugno From majordomo-users-owner Thu May 21 14:39:28 1998 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-970926-1) id NAA01300; Thu, 21 May 1998 13:53:48 -0700 (PDT) Received: from NameSrv.mountain.net (Namesrv.Mountain.Net [198.77.1.1]) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-980202-1) with ESMTP id NAA01264 for ; Thu, 21 May 1998 13:53:33 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mountain.net (tec.Mountain.Net [198.77.1.37]) by NameSrv.mountain.net (8.8.7/8.8.5) with ESMTP id QAA20828; Thu, 21 May 1998 16:57:03 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <35649498.92F48E0F@mountain.net> Date: Thu, 21 May 1998 16:54:48 -0400 From: Tim Connolly Organization: Mountain.Net, Inc. X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Chris Magnuson CC: majordomo-users@GreatCircle.COM Subject: Re: announce-only lists References: <199805210605.AAA13706@K3.peakpeak.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk Thats a tough one! I used "closed" in every option possible and made the restrict_post file list only my email address. The problem is, all mail is seen coming from me so anyone can fake my address and send anyway... It might be better to make a fake email address in the restrict_post file and then send your mail out by approving your own bounces. What a pain.. Anyone have a better suggestion ??? Chris Magnuson wrote: > This has to be documented somewhere, I feel like an idiot. How do you set > up announce-only lists? Do you just set moderation on and filter any mail > that comes to the list that isn't subscribe or unsubscribe? > > Thanks, > Chris -- Tim Connolly tec@mountain.net MountainNet, Inc. -- (304) 594-9075 ext. 37 2816 Cranberry Square -- fax (304) 594-9088 Morgantown, WV 26505 -- If you sit down at a poker game and don't see a sucker, -- get up. You're the sucker. (Story of my life) From majordomo-users-owner Thu May 21 14:40:42 1998 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-970926-1) id OAA02240; Thu, 21 May 1998 14:11:29 -0700 (PDT) Received: from prescienttech.com (londo.prescienttech.com [199.103.216.62]) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-980202-1) with ESMTP id OAA02233 for ; Thu, 21 May 1998 14:11:23 -0700 (PDT) Received: from gkar.prescienttech.com. (gkar.prescienttech.com [111.17.19.1]) by prescienttech.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id RAA15834 for ; Thu, 21 May 1998 17:15:06 -0400 From: Rich Pieri To: majordomo-users@greatcircle.com Subject: Re: blind copies References: <"0572035647D6300F*/c=us/admd= /prmd=salliemae/o=salliemae/ou=Notes/ou=71020/s=Witt/g=Andrew/"@MHS> X-No-Archive: yes Mail-Copies-To: never Date: 21 May 1998 17:15:06 -0400 In-Reply-To: Andrew Witt's message of "21 May 1998 15:15:47 -0400" Message-ID: Lines: 29 X-Mailer: Gnus v5.6.9/Emacs 19.34 Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Andrew Witt writes: > My users use cc:Mail or Lotus Notes, neither one of which is especially > SMTP-friendly. The long-standing saw goes, "Microsoft Mail: as far from RFC 822 as you can get and still pretend to care." My long-standing corrolary, "Lotus cc:Mail: it does not even pretend to care." -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 4.0 Business Edition Charset: noconv iQCVAwUBNWSZWJ6VRH7BJMxHAQFZ5gP/ar6WXy4tCExRgNr+tdDgY6Fkxacb5OzZ 3lHc1UfYYyAkiy1BezIzznivGaIKNvbsLspV+Xxz+1rmCQFJnluqBfhXKYJOiWbS +W5idNcHfmorleziVS6o1QqUwfgFqGW1EvPoc9bowZfKFN35DmFH1ymokELoM1MI /dCb2DYETuU= =bzaK -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- Rich Pieri / When not in use, Happy Fun Ball Sysmonster, Unix Wrangler / should be returned to its special Prescient Technologies, Inc. / container and kept under I speak for myself, not PTI or SWEC / refrigeration. From majordomo-users-owner Thu May 21 15:08:37 1998 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-970926-1) id OAA03499; Thu, 21 May 1998 14:58:53 -0700 (PDT) Received: from NameSrv.mountain.net (Namesrv.Mountain.Net [198.77.1.1]) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-980202-1) with ESMTP id OAA03492 for ; Thu, 21 May 1998 14:58:44 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mountain.net (tec.Mountain.Net [198.77.1.37]) by NameSrv.mountain.net (8.8.7/8.8.5) with ESMTP id SAA21844; Thu, 21 May 1998 18:02:21 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <3564A3E5.F5FC9144@mountain.net> Date: Thu, 21 May 1998 18:00:06 -0400 From: Tim Connolly Organization: Mountain.Net, Inc. X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Francesco Fortugno CC: majordomo-users@GreatCircle.COM Subject: Re: list-owner References: <3564994B.30538476@elecomm.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk Yes... "you" should be replaced with fortugno@elecomm.net, Francesco Fortugno wrote: > hi there, > I have installed majordomo and all seems to work except for 1 little > error that's not correctly setup. > Concerning the actual setup of the owner-list@domain.com > The majordomo.aliases file has this entry > > internal: "|/home/majordomo-1.94.4/wrapper resend -l internal > internal-list" > internal-list: :include:/home/majordomo-1.94.4/lists/internal > owner-internal: you > internal-owner: you > internal-request: you > > But whenever I send email to owner-internal@elecomm.net, I get user > unknown. Did I miss anything? Does the "you" actually have to be an > email address, I tried that but it didn't work. > thank you in advance. > frank. > > -- > EleComm Corporation - http://www.elecomm.net|http://www.10mb.com > Francesco Fortugno > Systems Analyst |10mb Technical Support > Email: Fortugno@elecomm.net URL:http://www.10mb.com/fortugno -- Tim Connolly tec@mountain.net MountainNet, Inc. -- (304) 594-9075 ext. 37 2816 Cranberry Square -- fax (304) 594-9088 Morgantown, WV 26505 -- If you sit down at a poker game and don't see a sucker, -- get up. You're the sucker. (Story of my life) From majordomo-users-owner Thu May 21 15:23:52 1998 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-970926-1) id PAA03863; Thu, 21 May 1998 15:14:04 -0700 (PDT) Received: from windlord.stanford.edu (windlord.Stanford.EDU [36.21.0.44]) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-980202-1) with SMTP id PAA03853 for ; Thu, 21 May 1998 15:13:58 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 10786 invoked by uid 500); 21 May 1998 22:17:40 -0000 To: majordomo-users@GreatCircle.COM Subject: Re: announce-only lists References: <199805210605.AAA13706@K3.peakpeak.com> <35649498.92F48E0F@mountain.net> From: Russ Allbery In-Reply-To: Tim Connolly's message of "Thu, 21 May 1998 16:54:48 -0400" Date: 21 May 1998 15:17:39 -0700 Message-ID: Lines: 17 X-Mailer: Gnus v5.4.66/Emacs 19.34 Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk Tim Connolly writes: > Thats a tough one! I used "closed" in every option possible and made > the restrict_post file list only my email address. The problem is, all > mail is seen coming from me so anyone can fake my address and send > anyway... Set moderate to yes in the configuration file and then include an Approved header with the list approve password in each post you send to the list. That header will be stripped (after it's verified) by majordomo. Note that it needs to be in the *headers*, not the body, unless you use the standard approval method of putting a full message in the body with an Approved: line above it.... -- Russ Allbery (rra@stanford.edu) From majordomo-users-owner Thu May 21 15:38:41 1998 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-970926-1) id PAA04230; Thu, 21 May 1998 15:36:36 -0700 (PDT) Received: from sina.hpc.uh.edu (Sina.HPC.UH.EDU [129.7.3.5]) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-980202-1) with ESMTP id PAA04223 for ; Thu, 21 May 1998 15:36:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from tibbs@localhost) by sina.hpc.uh.edu (8.7.3/8.7.3) id RAA01421; Thu, 21 May 1998 17:40:24 -0500 (CDT) To: Allen Cc: majordomo-users@GreatCircle.COM Subject: Re: Numbering posts References: <2.2.32.19980521210031.009eadfc@pop.sfo.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 (generated by tm-edit 7.100) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII From: Jason L Tibbitts III Date: 21 May 1998 17:40:24 -0500 In-Reply-To: Allen's message of "Thu, 21 May 1998 14:00:31 -0700" Message-ID: Lines: 12 X-Mailer: Gnus v5.6.9/Emacs 19.34 Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk >>>>> "A" == Allen writes: A> I can't seem to find any reference to a function like this. What am I A> missing? You're missing the fact that Majordomo has no such function. There are hacks to do this (and indeed the 'sequencer' program which sits in the contrib directory is illustrative of what's required). The development version has message sequencing built in. - J< From majordomo-users-owner Thu May 21 15:47:29 1998 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-970926-1) id PAA04180; Thu, 21 May 1998 15:33:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: from sina.hpc.uh.edu (Sina.HPC.UH.EDU [129.7.3.5]) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-980202-1) with ESMTP id PAA04173 for ; Thu, 21 May 1998 15:33:23 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from tibbs@localhost) by sina.hpc.uh.edu (8.7.3/8.7.3) id RAA01388; Thu, 21 May 1998 17:37:17 -0500 (CDT) To: Tim Connolly Cc: majordomo-users@GreatCircle.COM Subject: Re: announce-only lists References: <199805210605.AAA13706@K3.peakpeak.com> <35649498.92F48E0F@mountain.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 (generated by tm-edit 7.100) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII From: Jason L Tibbitts III Date: 21 May 1998 17:37:16 -0500 In-Reply-To: Tim Connolly's message of "Thu, 21 May 1998 16:54:48 -0400" Message-ID: Lines: 11 X-Mailer: Gnus v5.6.9/Emacs 19.34 Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk >>>>> "TC" == Tim Connolly writes: TC> I used "closed" in every option possible and made the restrict_post TC> file list only my email address. The problem is, all mail is seen TC> coming from me so anyone can fake my address and send anyway... [...] TC> Anyone have a better suggestion ??? Turn on 'moderate', but pre-approve all messages. Pre-approval is explained in the list-owner-info document. - J< From majordomo-users-owner Thu May 21 15:53:40 1998 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-970926-1) id PAA04435; Thu, 21 May 1998 15:44:06 -0700 (PDT) Received: from sina.hpc.uh.edu (Sina.HPC.UH.EDU [129.7.3.5]) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-980202-1) with ESMTP id PAA04428 for ; Thu, 21 May 1998 15:44:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from tibbs@localhost) by sina.hpc.uh.edu (8.7.3/8.7.3) id RAA01612; Thu, 21 May 1998 17:48:01 -0500 (CDT) To: david.gibbs@silvon.com Cc: majordomo-users@GreatCircle.COM Subject: Re: FINDMAIL.COM References: <199805201856.OAA13073@pony-2.mail.digex.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 (generated by tm-edit 7.100) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII From: Jason L Tibbitts III Date: 21 May 1998 17:48:01 -0500 In-Reply-To: "David Gibbs"'s message of "Wed, 20 May 1998 13:58:27 -0600" Message-ID: Lines: 10 X-Mailer: Gnus v5.6.9/Emacs 19.34 Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk >>>>> "DG" == David Gibbs writes: DG> Folks: Check your subscriber lists "r@findmail.com" (or DG> something to that effect)... you might find them archving your mailing DG> lists without permission. The worst thing about findmail is that they don't seem to understand why you wouldn't want them archiving your lists. - J< From majordomo-users-owner Thu May 21 15:56:08 1998 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-970926-1) id PAA03756; Thu, 21 May 1998 15:11:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: from windlord.stanford.edu (windlord.Stanford.EDU [36.21.0.44]) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-980202-1) with SMTP id PAA03743 for ; Thu, 21 May 1998 15:10:55 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 10773 invoked by uid 500); 21 May 1998 22:14:38 -0000 To: majordomo-users@GreatCircle.COM Subject: Re: lists w/ mixed letters References: <19980521193243.509.qmail@sws5.ctd.ornl.gov> From: Russ Allbery In-Reply-To: Dave Sill's message of "Thu, 21 May 98 15:32:42 EST" Date: 21 May 1998 15:14:38 -0700 Message-ID: Lines: 20 X-Mailer: Gnus v5.4.66/Emacs 19.34 Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk Dave Sill writes: > Rich Pieri wrote: >> sendmail, as well as pretty much any other Unix MTA, > qmail, of course, is the exception to the rule. qmail smashes case in most instances (it definitely smashes case for user mail deliveries). The only significant exception is that case is preserved in the envelope information put in the environment when invoking programs, which would be sufficient to get majordomo running on a qmail system to honor mixed-case list names differently than the same name in lower case. It would require wrappers and possibly some modifications of majordomo, though, for (in my opinion) no real gain. My mjdispatch script used to interface between qmail and majordomo smashes case in list addresses to avoid this problem. -- Russ Allbery (rra@stanford.edu) From majordomo-users-owner Thu May 21 16:08:35 1998 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-970926-1) id PAA04171; Thu, 21 May 1998 15:33:16 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nanguo.chalmers.com.au (gateway.chalmers.com.au [203.1.96.1]) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-980202-1) with ESMTP id PAA04164 for ; Thu, 21 May 1998 15:33:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: from chalmers.com.au (carbon.chalmers.com.au [203.1.96.26]) by nanguo.chalmers.com.au (8.8.8/8.8.7) with ESMTP id IAA28166; Fri, 22 May 1998 08:36:27 +1000 (EST) Message-ID: <3564AE50.76016D5C@chalmers.com.au> Date: Fri, 22 May 1998 08:44:32 +1000 From: Robert Chalmers Reply-To: robert@chalmers.com.au Organization: chalmers.com.au X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Rich Pieri CC: majordomo-users@GreatCircle.COM Subject: Is for Majorcool. Re: Width of List textarea is too wide? References: <3563D080.5DF09A03@chalmers.com.au> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk Sorry, in hast... This message actually refers to the MAJORCOOL software. Robert Rich Pieri wrote: > > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > > Robert Chalmers writes: > > > How can I change the actual width of the List TEXTAREA display, > > Huh? > > Methinks you are talking about something other than Majordomo. > > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- > Version: 4.0 Business Edition > Charset: noconv > > iQCVAwUBNWQ6wJ6VRH7BJMxHAQGnsAP8DFREkZSazvIyGyAeqMmnyDdxxG0YZTm8 > fNFc+/EixcQb7rNdpg0nSTOmwXtm+JSfabcDIBjMaWT0M2FJxpZie97FiamRll9A > Yr0Nai/y6+bIAUj1qNY69y4aIPPjoOlgYqVpSPylJmyMICEC2Jce+hOxcrwvziUM > NmD0s+Umoko= > =/ouA > -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- > > -- > Rich Pieri / Happy Fun Ball contains a liquid > Sysmonster, Unix Wrangler / core, which, if exposed due to > Prescient Technologies, Inc. / rupture, should not be touched, > I speak for myself, not PTI or SWEC / inhaled, or looked at. -- Support Whirled Peas. http://www.chalmers.com.au robert@chalmers.com.au China House - Bookshop From majordomo-users-owner Thu May 21 16:09:00 1998 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-970926-1) id PAA04553; Thu, 21 May 1998 15:49:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: from kitsune.swcp.com (swcp.com [198.59.115.2]) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-980202-1) with ESMTP id PAA04546 for ; Thu, 21 May 1998 15:49:26 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from lazlo@localhost) by kitsune.swcp.com (8.8.8/1.2.3) id QAA17944; Thu, 21 May 1998 16:53:10 -0600 (MDT) Message-ID: <19980521165309.A16965@swcp.com> Date: Thu, 21 May 1998 16:53:09 -0600 From: Lazlo Nibble To: majordomo-users@GreatCircle.COM Subject: Re: FINDMAIL.COM Mail-Followup-To: majordomo-users@GreatCircle.COM References: <199805201856.OAA13073@pony-2.mail.digex.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.91.1i In-Reply-To: <199805201856.OAA13073@pony-2.mail.digex.net>; from David Gibbs on Wed, May 20, 1998 at 01:58:27PM -0600 Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk On Wed, May 20, 1998 at 01:58:27PM -0600, David Gibbs wrote: > Check your subscriber lists "r@findmail.com" (or > something to that effect)... you might find them archving your > mailing lists without permission. > > I saw a subscription notification message come through with that > address and checked out the web page... they got about 5 messages, > but I nixed the subscription then and there. > > I will be sending a rather sternly worded message to them as soon as > I get home. Good luck. I've been over this with them a number of times; they insist that the address they use to subscribe to the lists they archive (listsaver-of-listname@findmail.com, I think) counts as sufficient notification to the list owner. I've passed along (with permission) the last message I got from their lead apologist. FYI, they are currently archiving all the public lists at greatcircle as well. -- ::: Lazlo (lazlo@swcp.com; http://www.swcp.com/lazlo) ::: Internet Music Wantlists: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo/Wantlists From majordomo-users-owner Thu May 21 16:18:38 1998 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-970926-1) id PAA03797; Thu, 21 May 1998 15:12:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: from sparkie.osl.state.or.us (sparkie.osl.state.or.us [159.121.122.34]) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-980202-1) with SMTP id PAA03782 for ; Thu, 21 May 1998 15:12:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from chris@localhost) by sparkie.osl.state.or.us (8.6.9/8.6.9) id PAA27762; Thu, 21 May 1998 15:14:20 -0700 Date: Thu, 21 May 1998 15:14:19 -0700 (PDT) From: Christopher Adams To: majordomo-users@GreatCircle.COM Subject: Re: blind copies In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk I (me, myself, etc.) was the original sender of the message that was received as bcc by some subscribers. I am not so ignorant that I would not consider the possibility that someone had actually used a bcc. Based on messages from others, it sounds like it is something that is being caused by mail clients on the receiver's end. Christopher Adams Automated Systems Oregon State Library chris@sparkie.osl.state.or.us On 21 May 1998, Rich Pieri wrote: > Date: 21 May 1998 13:59:53 -0400 > From: Rich Pieri > To: majordomo-users@GreatCircle.COM > Subject: Re: blind copies > > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > > Christopher Adams writes: > > > Can anyone explain why some subscribers receive posts as a bcc (blind copy)? > > Because some posters send copies as (blind) carbon copies. > > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- > Version: 4.0 Business Edition > Charset: noconv > > iQCVAwUBNWRrmJ6VRH7BJMxHAQEMXQQAvP6RACf2Lawg7JxxDfRM3OcPQUePfrSj > fQkRRvXLapGX1bljhzlyc/hIvUtuPC9Y1EqAAWQv4d64lIVMGHpWrRg10M6sxjo5 > Jnf41voCplG25ngDrwnIpFTCy/KIdOBA2FpPSqUy9qWimOW+VXf1kxy2RK1BchHK > VnUd4R9da0M= > =F0+m > -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- > > -- > Rich Pieri / Warning: pregnant women, the > Sysmonster, Unix Wrangler / elderly, and children under 10 > Prescient Technologies, Inc. / should avoid prolonged exposure to > I speak for myself, not PTI or SWEC / Happy Fun Ball. > > From majordomo-users-owner Wed May 27 19:06:10 1998 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-970926-1) id SAA02494; Wed, 27 May 1998 18:12:22 -0700 (PDT) Received: from miles.greatcircle.com (miles.greatcircle.com [198.102.244.45]) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-980202-1) with ESMTP id SAA01700 for ; Wed, 27 May 1998 18:06:48 -0700 (PDT) Received: from linus.mitre.org (linus.mitre.org [129.83.10.1]) by miles.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA01445 for ; Wed, 27 May 1998 11:16:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: from caffeine.mitre.org (caffeine [129.83.10.136]) by linus.mitre.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id OAA02558 for ; Wed, 27 May 1998 14:12:33 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from justin@localhost) by caffeine.mitre.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id OAA20121; Wed, 27 May 1998 14:12:30 -0400 (EDT) To: majordomo-users@GreatCircle.COM Subject: Re: FINDMAIL.COM References: <199805201856.OAA13073@pony-2.mail.digex.net> From: Justin Sheehy Date: 27 May 1998 14:12:30 -0400 In-Reply-To: Jason L Tibbitts III's message of "21 May 1998 17:48:01 -0500" Message-ID: Lines: 21 X-Mailer: Gnus v5.6.9/Emacs 20.2 Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk Jason L Tibbitts III writes: > The worst thing about findmail is that they don't seem to understand why > you wouldn't want them archiving your lists. They're worse than that. On one list that I co-maintain, they wanted to archive it starting about a year and a half ago. From a consensus on the list, the answer was "no". They unsubbed and said that to prevent them from "accidentally" subbing again, we should put the phrase "private list" or "restricted list" in the info file for that list. I don't think that this is the right approach, but it was done anyway. Last week, they resubscribed. Bastards. -Justin From majordomo-users-owner Wed May 27 19:14:35 1998 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-970926-1) id SAA00990; Wed, 27 May 1998 18:01:23 -0700 (PDT) Received: from miles.greatcircle.com (miles.greatcircle.com [198.102.244.45]) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-980202-1) with ESMTP id SAA00868 for ; Wed, 27 May 1998 18:01:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: from sparkie.osl.state.or.us (sparkie.osl.state.or.us [159.121.122.34]) by miles.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id RAA02751 for ; Wed, 27 May 1998 17:09:50 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from chris@localhost) by sparkie.osl.state.or.us (8.6.9/8.6.9) id RAA00568; Wed, 27 May 1998 17:07:36 -0700 Date: Wed, 27 May 1998 17:07:35 -0700 (PDT) From: Christopher Adams To: majordomo-users@GreatCircle.COM Subject: master password Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk >From the Majordomo Archives: To set a MASTER PASSWORD, Create a file and edit your master password into it: # echo usedc0ws >MASTER.PASSWD Make it read-only so no list owners can zap it: # chmod 0440 MASTER.PASSWD Give it the proper ownerships: # chown majordom.daemon MASTER.PASSWD Link it to each list password file: # for L in `/bin/ls -1 | grep -v '\.'`; do > rm -f $L.passwd > ln MASTER.PASSWD $L.passwd > done -- Dave Wolfe ================================================= I have some questions about the above commands. I figured out part of what is happening, but not everything. /bin/ls -1 forces one entry per line grep -v finds non-matching strings rm -f $L.passwd removes a file without regard for permissions ln MASTER.PASSWD $L.passwd makes a symbolic link My questions are: What is 'do' What is '\.' (a regular expression?) So, could someone explain line-by-line what this is doing? I realize that the idea is to link list.passwd files to MASTER.PASSWD. I am just a little hazy about the syntax and some of the characters. Christopher Adams From majordomo-users-owner Wed May 27 20:08:17 1998 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-970926-1) id TAA15738; Wed, 27 May 1998 19:33:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: from sina.hpc.uh.edu (Sina.HPC.UH.EDU [129.7.3.5]) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-980202-1) with ESMTP id TAA15731 for ; Wed, 27 May 1998 19:33:22 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from tibbs@localhost) by sina.hpc.uh.edu (8.7.3/8.7.3) id VAA24795; Wed, 27 May 1998 21:33:58 -0500 (CDT) To: Duncan Sterling Cc: majordomo-users@GreatCircle.COM Subject: Re: Wisguys And "listname-outgoing" References: Mime-Version: 1.0 (generated by tm-edit 7.100) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII From: Jason L Tibbitts III Date: 27 May 1998 21:33:58 -0500 In-Reply-To: Duncan Sterling's message of "Wed, 27 May 1998 16:26:05 -0400 (EDT)" Message-ID: Lines: 19 X-Mailer: Gnus v5.6.9/Emacs 19.34 Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk >>>>> "DS" == Duncan Sterling writes: DS> 'listname-outgoing' DS> Apparently, this circumvented the moderation process, and the "wiseguy" DS> managed to spam the list. Is this a configuration issue, or do I need DS> to take extraordinary measures to prevent this from happening again? Sending directly to the outgoing alias bypasses all filtering that resend implements. Read over the aliases and you should see why this is so. You need to take some measures to close this hole; the FAQ should have several suggestions. The most common is to just choose some random string instead of 'outgoing'. There are more complicated options. DS> ejrc: "|/usr/local/majordomo-1.93/wrapper resend [...] 1.93 is quite old. - J< From majordomo-users-owner Wed May 27 20:10:50 1998 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-970926-1) id TAA15916; Wed, 27 May 1998 19:43:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: from sina.hpc.uh.edu (Sina.HPC.UH.EDU [129.7.3.5]) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-980202-1) with ESMTP id TAA15881 for ; Wed, 27 May 1998 19:42:53 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from tibbs@localhost) by sina.hpc.uh.edu (8.7.3/8.7.3) id VAA24984; Wed, 27 May 1998 21:43:36 -0500 (CDT) To: Christopher Adams Cc: majordomo-users@GreatCircle.COM Subject: Re: master password References: Mime-Version: 1.0 (generated by tm-edit 7.100) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII From: Jason L Tibbitts III Date: 27 May 1998 21:43:36 -0500 In-Reply-To: Christopher Adams's message of "Wed, 27 May 1998 17:07:35 -0700 (PDT)" Message-ID: Lines: 50 X-Mailer: Gnus v5.6.9/Emacs 19.34 Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk >>>>> "CA" == Christopher Adams writes: CA> # for L in `/bin/ls -1 | grep -v '\.'`; do CA> > rm -f $L.passwd CA> > ln MASTER.PASSWD $L.passwd CA> > done CA> What is 'do' Part of the shell looping construct: for VARIABLE in LIST; do COMMANDS; done Look at the manual page for 'sh' or consult a basic UNIX book for more info. CA> What is '\.' (a regular expression?) Yes, one matching any string containing a single period. CA> So, could someone explain line-by-line what this is doing? for L in `/bin/ls -1 | grep -v '\.'`; do Loop over all files with names not containing dots. In other words, the names of all of the lists. (All files without dots in the list directory are by definition the names of lists. List names absolutely cannot contain periods.) Each time through the loop, store the name in $L. rm -f $L.passwd Delete $L.passwd if it exists; don't complain if it doesn't. ln MASTER.PASSWD $L.passwd Link $L.passwd to MASTER.PASSWD. done End of the loop. CA> I realize that the idea is to link list.passwd files to CA> MASTER.PASSWD. I am just a little hazy about the syntax and some of the CA> characters. I really recommend getting a book like _Unix in a Nutshell_ or any of the other basic Unix books from O'Reilly (www.ora.com). This really isn't the place to discuss these things. - J< From majordomo-users-owner Wed May 27 20:11:34 1998 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-970926-1) id TAA15790; Wed, 27 May 1998 19:38:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ayla.idyllmtn.com (ayla.idyllmtn.com [206.16.238.1]) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-980202-1) with ESMTP id TAA15783 for ; Wed, 27 May 1998 19:38:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: from grev.idyllmtn.com (kynn.bur.primenet.com [207.218.52.159]) by ayla.idyllmtn.com (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id TAA15956; Wed, 27 May 1998 19:37:46 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.19980527194515.009206c0@mail.idyllmtn.com> X-Sender: kynn-mlists@mail.idyllmtn.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.5 (32) Date: Wed, 27 May 1998 19:45:15 -0700 To: Duncan Sterling From: Kynn Bartlett Subject: Re: Wisguys And "listname-outgoing" Cc: majordomo-users@GreatCircle.COM In-Reply-To: References: <199609161325.IAA14400@miaow.sps.mot.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk At 04:26 p.m. 05/27/98 -0400, Duncan Sterling wrote: >One of my customers who runs a moderated list complained to me the other Read the FAQ. >day that some "wiseguy" sent an email to her list addressed to: Read the FAQ. >'listname-outgoing' Read the FAQ. >Apparently, this circumvented the moderation process, and the "wiseguy" Read the FAQ. >managed to spam the list. Is this a configuration issue, or do I need to Read the FAQ. >take extraordinary measures to prevent this from happening again? Read the FAQ. -- __ __ _ _ _ Mailing List Services | \/ | | (_)___| |_ ___ for the Internet Community | |\/| | | | / __| __/ __| http://www.mlists.com/ | | | | |___| \__ \ |_\__ \ (Free list hosting available!) |_| |_|_____|_|___/\__|___/ kynn@mlists.com From majordomo-users-owner Wed May 27 20:22:48 1998 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-970926-1) id SAA01388; Wed, 27 May 1998 18:03:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: from miles.greatcircle.com (miles.greatcircle.com [198.102.244.45]) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-980202-1) with ESMTP id SAA01336 for ; Wed, 27 May 1998 18:03:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: from icarus.yml.com ([207.226.52.3]) by miles.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA02090 for ; Wed, 27 May 1998 13:29:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (buffalo@localhost) by icarus.yml.com (8.8.4/8.8.4) with SMTP id QAA19357 for ; Wed, 27 May 1998 16:26:05 -0400 Date: Wed, 27 May 1998 16:26:05 -0400 (EDT) From: Duncan Sterling To: majordomo-users@GreatCircle.COM Subject: Wisguys And "listname-outgoing" In-Reply-To: <199609161325.IAA14400@miaow.sps.mot.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk One of my customers who runs a moderated list complained to me the other day that some "wiseguy" sent an email to her list addressed to: 'listname-outgoing' Apparently, this circumvented the moderation process, and the "wiseguy" managed to spam the list. Is this a configuration issue, or do I need to take extraordinary measures to prevent this from happening again? The aliases for the list are set up like so: ------------------------------------------------------------------------- owner-ejrc: ejrc-owner ejrc: "|/usr/local/majordomo-1.93/wrapper resend -R -l ejrc -f ejrc-owner -h vet ejrc-owner: carry ejrc-approval: ejrc-owner ejrc-outgoing: :include:/usr/local/mail/lists/ejrc owner-ejrc-outgoing: ejrc-owner ejrc-request: "/usr/local/majordomo-1.93/wrapper request-answer ejrc" owner-ejrc-request: ejrc-owner ------------------------------------------------------------------------- TIA for any and all suggestions... --Duncan From majordomo-users-owner Wed May 27 22:04:42 1998 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-970926-1) id VAA22100; Wed, 27 May 1998 21:43:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: from plaidworks.com (plaidworks.com [207.167.80.66]) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-980202-1) with ESMTP id VAA22012 for ; Wed, 27 May 1998 21:42:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from chuqui2@localhost) by plaidworks.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) id VAA31988 ; Wed, 27 May 1998 21:43:32 -0700 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" X-Sender: chuqui2@plaidworks.com Message-Id: In-Reply-To: References: Jason L Tibbitts III's message of "21 May 1998 17:48:01 -0500" <199805201856.OAA13073@pony-2.mail.digex.net> Date: Wed, 27 May 1998 21:34:34 -0700 To: Justin Sheehy , majordomo-users@GreatCircle.COM From: Chuq Von Rospach Subject: Re: FINDMAIL.COM Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk At 11:12 AM -0700 5/27/98, Justin Sheehy wrote: > Last week, they resubscribed. Which is why I long ago sent them cease and desist messages telling them never to touch my servers under any circumstances, and then set up my system to greyhole any request from that domain. Because I didn't trust them. Still don't. -- Chuq Von Rospach (Hockey fan? ) Apple Mail List Gnome (mailto:chuq@apple.com) Plaidworks Consulting (mailto:chuqui@plaidworks.com) + From majordomo-users-owner Wed May 27 22:29:53 1998 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-970926-1) id WAA23689; Wed, 27 May 1998 22:16:17 -0700 (PDT) Received: from sparkie.osl.state.or.us (sparkie.osl.state.or.us [159.121.122.34]) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-980202-1) with SMTP id WAA23682 for ; Wed, 27 May 1998 22:16:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from chris@localhost) by sparkie.osl.state.or.us (8.6.9/8.6.9) id WAA02504; Wed, 27 May 1998 22:15:08 -0700 Date: Wed, 27 May 1998 22:15:08 -0700 (PDT) From: Christopher Adams To: Jason L Tibbitts III cc: majordomo-users@GreatCircle.COM Subject: Re: master password In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk Jason- Thanks for the info. After reading a bit more and with your help, I was able to create a master password for all 50 lists that I have here. It will save me much time. I just needed to have a clearer idea about what the script was doing. Thanks again. Christopher Adams Automated Systems Oregon State Library chris@sparkie.osl.state.or.us On 27 May 1998, Jason L Tibbitts III wrote: > Date: 27 May 1998 21:43:36 -0500 > From: Jason L Tibbitts III > To: Christopher Adams > Cc: majordomo-users@GreatCircle.COM > Subject: Re: master password > > >>>>> "CA" == Christopher Adams writes: > > CA> # for L in `/bin/ls -1 | grep -v '\.'`; do > CA> > rm -f $L.passwd > CA> > ln MASTER.PASSWD $L.passwd > CA> > done > > CA> What is 'do' > > Part of the shell looping construct: > > for VARIABLE in LIST; do COMMANDS; done > > Look at the manual page for 'sh' or consult a basic UNIX book for more > info. > > CA> What is '\.' (a regular expression?) > > Yes, one matching any string containing a single period. > > CA> So, could someone explain line-by-line what this is doing? > > for L in `/bin/ls -1 | grep -v '\.'`; do > > Loop over all files with names not containing dots. In other words, the > names of all of the lists. (All files without dots in the list directory > are by definition the names of lists. List names absolutely cannot contain > periods.) Each time through the loop, store the name in $L. > > rm -f $L.passwd > > Delete $L.passwd if it exists; don't complain if it doesn't. > > ln MASTER.PASSWD $L.passwd > > Link $L.passwd to MASTER.PASSWD. > > done > > End of the loop. > > CA> I realize that the idea is to link list.passwd files to > CA> MASTER.PASSWD. I am just a little hazy about the syntax and some of the > CA> characters. > > I really recommend getting a book like _Unix in a Nutshell_ or any of > the other basic Unix books from O'Reilly (www.ora.com). This really isn't > the place to discuss these things. > > - J< > From majordomo-users-owner Wed May 27 22:56:49 1998 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-970926-1) id WAA24277; Wed, 27 May 1998 22:55:56 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ex1.ncsa.uiuc.edu (ex1.ncsa.uiuc.edu [141.142.3.16]) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-980202-1) with ESMTP id WAA24260 for ; Wed, 27 May 1998 22:55:41 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.ncsa.uiuc.edu (mx1.ncsa.uiuc.edu [141.142.3.15]) by ex1.ncsa.uiuc.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id AAA08504; Thu, 28 May 1998 00:56:05 -0500 (CDT) Received: from ferret.ncsa.uiuc.edu (ferret.ncsa.uiuc.edu [141.142.21.119]) by mx1.ncsa.uiuc.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id AAA00320; Thu, 28 May 1998 00:56:05 -0500 (CDT) Received: (from lindsey@localhost) by ferret.ncsa.uiuc.edu (8.9.0/8.8.5) id AAA16864; Thu, 28 May 1998 00:55:51 -0500 From: Christopher Lindsey Message-Id: <199805280555.AAA16864@ferret.ncsa.uiuc.edu> Subject: Re: master password To: tibbs@hpc.uh.edu (Jason L Tibbitts III) Date: Thu, 28 May 1998 00:55:51 -0500 (CDT) Cc: chris@sparkie.osl.state.or.us, majordomo-users@GreatCircle.COM In-Reply-To: from "Jason L Tibbitts III" at May 27, 98 09:43:36 pm Content-Type: text Content-MD5: XJIAfNvGVM0jpjcKMfqSkAAA Content-MD5-Origin: ferret.ncsa.uiuc.edu Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk > CA> # for L in `/bin/ls -1 | grep -v '\.'`; do > CA> > rm -f $L.passwd > CA> > ln MASTER.PASSWD $L.passwd > CA> > done Is there anything wrong with setting a master password with the admin_passwd setting in list.config? For example, every config file that I have on my server has an entry like admin_passwd = masterpassword (where masterpassword) is a password. Then each list has its own list.passwd file with a unique password within. This lets me give a unique password out to each list owner, yet keep a master password for me to use on all lists without having to look it up. Since the .config files are set 660 and owned by majordomo.majordomo, anyone with access to the server can't see what the settings are. Anything wrong with this setup? Chris From majordomo-users-owner Thu May 28 00:57:28 1998 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-970926-1) id AAA26773; Thu, 28 May 1998 00:45:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ex1.ncsa.uiuc.edu (ex1.ncsa.uiuc.edu [141.142.3.16]) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-980202-1) with ESMTP id AAA26759 for ; Thu, 28 May 1998 00:45:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.ncsa.uiuc.edu (mx1.ncsa.uiuc.edu [141.142.3.15]) by ex1.ncsa.uiuc.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id CAA10355; Thu, 28 May 1998 02:45:26 -0500 (CDT) Received: from ferret.ncsa.uiuc.edu (ferret.ncsa.uiuc.edu [141.142.21.119]) by mx1.ncsa.uiuc.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id CAA03157; Thu, 28 May 1998 02:45:25 -0500 (CDT) Received: (from lindsey@localhost) by ferret.ncsa.uiuc.edu (8.9.0/8.8.5) id CAA18214; Thu, 28 May 1998 02:45:17 -0500 From: Christopher Lindsey Message-Id: <199805280745.CAA18214@ferret.ncsa.uiuc.edu> Subject: Re: master password To: J.Goldberg@cranfield.ac.uk Date: Thu, 28 May 1998 02:45:17 -0500 (CDT) Cc: lindsey@ncsa.uiuc.edu, tibbs@hpc.uh.edu, chris@sparkie.osl.state.or.us, majordomo-users@GreatCircle.COM In-Reply-To: from "Jeffrey Goldberg" at May 28, 98 08:39:39 am Content-Type: text Content-MD5: cqnF4QxBNsPqMZX0+HpJwwAA Content-MD5-Origin: ferret.ncsa.uiuc.edu Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk > > Then each list has its > > own list.passwd file with a unique password within. > > > Anything wrong with this setup? > > Yes, there is something wrong with it. This way the list manager of ANY > list can see the master passwd. Furthermore, they can change whether > their list respects the master password. How? Chris From majordomo-users-owner Thu May 28 01:10:38 1998 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-970926-1) id AAA26629; Thu, 28 May 1998 00:41:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: from neptune.pegasus.cranfield.ac.uk (neptune.pegasus.cranfield.ac.uk [138.250.1.185]) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-980202-1) with SMTP id AAA26619 for ; Thu, 28 May 1998 00:41:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: from annex-1-pt6.ccc.cranfield.ac.uk (arpad.thegreen.private) [138.250.1.229] (cc047) by neptune.pegasus.cranfield.ac.uk with smtp (Exim 1.82 #1) id 0yexJX-0004C8-00; Thu, 28 May 1998 08:41:28 +0100 Date: Thu, 28 May 1998 08:39:39 +0100 (BST) From: Jeffrey Goldberg X-Sender: cc047@arpad.thegreen.private Reply-To: Jeffrey Goldberg To: Christopher Lindsey cc: Jason L Tibbitts III , chris@sparkie.osl.state.or.us, majordomo-users@GreatCircle.COM Subject: Re: master password In-Reply-To: <199805280555.AAA16864@ferret.ncsa.uiuc.edu> Message-ID: Organization: Cranfield University Computer Centre MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk On Thu, 28 May 1998, Christopher Lindsey wrote: > Is there anything wrong with setting a master password with the > admin_passwd setting in list.config? > Then each list has its > own list.passwd file with a unique password within. > Anything wrong with this setup? Yes, there is something wrong with it. This way the list manager of ANY list can see the master passwd. Furthermore, they can change whether their list respects the master password. -j -- Jeffrey Goldberg +44 (0)1234 750 111 x 2826 Cranfield Computer Centre FAX 751 814 J.Goldberg@Cranfield.ac.uk http://WWW.Cranfield.ac.uk/public/cc/cc047/ Relativism is the triumph of authority over truth, convention over justice. From majordomo-users-owner Thu May 28 01:16:59 1998 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-970926-1) id BAA27614; Thu, 28 May 1998 01:05:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: from konstanz.bsz-bw.de (konstanz.bsz-bw.de [193.197.29.140]) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-980202-1) with ESMTP id BAA27605 for ; Thu, 28 May 1998 01:05:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pc174 (pc174.bsz-bw.de [193.197.29.174]) by konstanz.bsz-bw.de (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id KAA02812 for ; Thu, 28 May 1998 10:04:23 +0200 (MET DST) Received: by localhost with Microsoft MAPI; Thu, 28 May 1998 10:04:24 +0200 Message-ID: <01BD8A1F.FDEBCBF0.Roland.Schreder@bsz-bw.de> From: Roland Schreder To: "'majordomo-users'" Subject: Archive Problem Date: Thu, 28 May 1998 10:04:23 +0200 Organization: BSZ Konstanz X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet E-mail/MAPI - 8.0.0.4211 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk Hi all, i am running majordomo 1.94.4 on a Sun Ultra 1 with several lists. Instead of a directory for the archive (/dir/where/md/is/lists/listname.archive) i want to add a softlink to another directory /dir/where/I/Want/the/archives/listname.archive. If I do this I get the error MAJORDOMO ABORT (archive2.pl)!! shlock: '/dir/where/md/is/lists/listname.archive' does not exist. What is not correct? Is it possible to do so? Thanks in advance Roland ------ Roland Schreder Bibliotheksservice-Zentrum Baden-Wuerttemberg 78457 Konstanz mailto:Roland.Schreder@bsz-bw.de From majordomo-users-owner Thu May 28 01:20:23 1998 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-970926-1) id AAA27042; Thu, 28 May 1998 00:49:33 -0700 (PDT) Received: from neptune.pegasus.cranfield.ac.uk (neptune.pegasus.cranfield.ac.uk [138.250.1.185]) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-980202-1) with SMTP id AAA27035 for ; Thu, 28 May 1998 00:49:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: from annex-1-pt6.ccc.cranfield.ac.uk (arpad.thegreen.private) [138.250.1.229] (cc047) by neptune.pegasus.cranfield.ac.uk with smtp (Exim 1.82 #1) id 0yexRg-0003vZ-00; Thu, 28 May 1998 08:49:53 +0100 Date: Thu, 28 May 1998 08:49:51 +0100 (BST) From: Jeffrey Goldberg X-Sender: cc047@arpad.thegreen.private Reply-To: Jeffrey Goldberg To: Christopher Lindsey cc: Majordomo Users List Subject: Re: master password In-Reply-To: <199805280745.CAA18214@ferret.ncsa.uiuc.edu> Message-ID: Organization: Cranfield University Computer Centre MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk On Thu, 28 May 1998, Christopher Lindsey wrote: > > Yes, there is something wrong with it. This way the list manager of ANY > > list can see the master passwd. Furthermore, they can change whether > > their list respects the master password. > > How? If you have either the admin password or the list.passwd for a list you can use the config command to majordomo to get a copy of your config. You can also use newconfig to change your config. The point of the admin and list.passwd is that they allow people to manipulate their configurations. -j -- Jeffrey Goldberg +44 (0)1234 750 111 x 2826 Cranfield Computer Centre FAX 751 814 J.Goldberg@Cranfield.ac.uk http://WWW.Cranfield.ac.uk/public/cc/cc047/ Relativism is the triumph of authority over truth, convention over justice. From majordomo-users-owner Thu May 28 01:23:30 1998 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-970926-1) id BAA27742; Thu, 28 May 1998 01:09:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ex1.ncsa.uiuc.edu (ex1.ncsa.uiuc.edu [141.142.3.16]) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-980202-1) with ESMTP id BAA27735 for ; Thu, 28 May 1998 01:09:49 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.ncsa.uiuc.edu (mx1.ncsa.uiuc.edu [141.142.3.15]) by ex1.ncsa.uiuc.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id DAA10928; Thu, 28 May 1998 03:10:10 -0500 (CDT) Received: from ferret.ncsa.uiuc.edu (ferret.ncsa.uiuc.edu [141.142.21.119]) by mx1.ncsa.uiuc.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id DAA04138; Thu, 28 May 1998 03:10:10 -0500 (CDT) Received: (from lindsey@localhost) by ferret.ncsa.uiuc.edu (8.9.0/8.8.5) id DAA18365; Thu, 28 May 1998 03:10:01 -0500 From: Christopher Lindsey Message-Id: <199805280810.DAA18365@ferret.ncsa.uiuc.edu> Subject: Re: master password To: J.Goldberg@cranfield.ac.uk Date: Thu, 28 May 1998 03:10:01 -0500 (CDT) Cc: lindsey@ncsa.uiuc.edu, majordomo-users@GreatCircle.COM In-Reply-To: from "Jeffrey Goldberg" at May 28, 98 08:49:51 am Content-Type: text Content-MD5: IoeUqd4uTrUNPGN2lNwysgAA Content-MD5-Origin: ferret.ncsa.uiuc.edu Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk > > > Yes, there is something wrong with it. This way the list manager of ANY > > > list can see the master passwd. Furthermore, they can change whether > > > their list respects the master password. > > > If you have either the admin password or the list.passwd for a list > you can use the config command to majordomo to get a copy of your > config. You can also use newconfig to change your config. The point > of the admin and list.passwd is that they allow people to > manipulate their configurations. You're right, of course. I had forgotten that I had taken that out of our majordomo a while back -- to the point that I entirely forgot that majordomo could do that in most environments. Please, unless you've removed the config/newconfig/writeconfig commands from majordomo, don't do what I mentioned earlier! And Jeffrey, thanks for catching me on this. Sorry about the trouble. Chris From majordomo-users-owner Thu May 28 02:28:40 1998 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-970926-1) id CAA00691; Thu, 28 May 1998 02:04:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: from natacha.ambrasoft.lu (natacha.ambrasoft.lu [194.154.208.7]) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-980202-1) with ESMTP id CAA00683 for ; Thu, 28 May 1998 02:03:56 -0700 (PDT) Received: by natacha.ambrasoft.lu with Internet Mail Service (5.0.1458.49) id ; Thu, 28 May 1998 10:53:56 +0200 Received: by natacha.ambrasoft.lu with Internet Mail Service (5.0.1458.49) id ; Thu, 28 May 1998 10:51:39 +0200 Message-ID: <113BA733C237D011BFA74854E82102F635C83C@natacha.ambrasoft.lu> From: CARPENTIER Michel To: "'majordomo-users@greatcicle.com'" Subject: Upgrading 1.94.1 -> 1.94.4 Date: Thu, 28 May 1998 10:51:37 +0200 X-Priority: 3 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.0.1458.49) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk Hi all, A little question... I'd like to upgrade my majordomo from 1.94.1 to 1.94.4, but is it better to reinstall 1.94.4 or to upgrade using the patches ? =20 Will I have the same result in both cases ? Many thanks, --Mike, -----------------------%<---------------------------- Michel Carpentier Ambrasoft mca@ambrasoft.lu Tel : +352 403420 226 ICQ : 6898839 (http://www.icq.com/) Plus un ordinateur est puissant, plus il ex=E9cute d'instructions en un temps donn=E9. Plus un ordinateur ex=E9cute d'instructions, plus il y a de risque d'en ex=E9cuter une qui plante le syst=E8me. From majordomo-users-owner Thu May 28 03:26:35 1998 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-970926-1) id DAA03538; Thu, 28 May 1998 03:21:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: from konstanz.bsz-bw.de (konstanz.bsz-bw.de [193.197.29.140]) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-980202-1) with ESMTP id DAA03528 for ; Thu, 28 May 1998 03:20:58 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pc174 (pc174.bsz-bw.de [193.197.29.174]) by konstanz.bsz-bw.de (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id MAA04352 for ; Thu, 28 May 1998 12:19:48 +0200 (MET DST) Received: by localhost with Microsoft MAPI; Thu, 28 May 1998 12:19:50 +0200 Message-ID: <01BD8A32.E97FB2E0.Roland.Schreder@bsz-bw.de> From: Roland Schreder To: "'majordomo-users'" Subject: MD dont work correct !? Date: Thu, 28 May 1998 12:19:50 +0200 Organization: BSZ Konstanz X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet E-mail/MAPI - 8.0.0.4211 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk Hi all, my second problem is, that majordomo dont work correct: when I send a mail on a list, the mail is send to the archive and NOT to the members of the list. I don't get an error, i get nothing. The same configuration on another machine is working fine. The difference between those machines is the version of sendmail (8.8.5 and 8.8.8) What could the problem be? Any hints? Thanks in advance. Roland ------ Roland Schreder Bibliotheksservice-Zentrum Baden-Wuerttemberg 78457 Konstanz mailto:Roland.Schreder@bsz-bw.de From majordomo-users-owner Thu May 28 06:41:40 1998 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-970926-1) id GAA06957; Thu, 28 May 1998 06:37:44 -0700 (PDT) Received: from stingray.ivision.co.uk (stingray.ivision.co.uk [195.50.91.40]) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-980202-1) with SMTP id GAA06950 for ; Thu, 28 May 1998 06:37:33 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pretender.ivision.co.uk [195.50.91.43] by stingray.ivision.co.uk with smtp (Exim 1.62 #2) id 0yf2sX-0004C6-00; Thu, 28 May 1998 14:37:57 +0100 Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.19980528143652.00894980@stingray.ivision.co.uk> X-Sender: manarpop@stingray.ivision.co.uk X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.5 (32) Date: Thu, 28 May 1998 14:36:52 +0100 To: majordomo-users@GreatCircle.COM From: Manar Hussain Subject: Re: Wisguys And "listname-outgoing" In-Reply-To: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk >Sending directly to the outgoing alias bypasses all filtering that resend >implements. Read over the aliases and you should see why this is so. You >need to take some measures to close this hole; the FAQ should have several >suggestions. The most common is to just choose some random string instead >of 'outgoing'. There are more complicated options. The best "more complicated option" is to use Exim or qmail instead of sendmail as you can configure these to prevent the problem fairly easily. There's a link from www.qmail.org about doing this for qmail - we're planning on putting some notes together at some point on how to do this and various other useful things with Exim. Manar From majordomo-users-owner Thu May 28 08:11:37 1998 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-970926-1) id IAA08853; Thu, 28 May 1998 08:10:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: from galileo.gpo.co.uk ([193.243.239.71]) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-980202-1) with SMTP id IAA08843 for ; Thu, 28 May 1998 08:10:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: from smtpmail.netres.co.uk (smtpmail.netres.co.uk [212.22.1.66]) by galileo.gpo.co.uk (NTMail 3.02.13) with ESMTP id la010463 for ; Thu, 28 May 1998 16:12:18 +0100 Received: from LONDON-Message_Server by netres.co.uk with Novell_GroupWise; Thu, 28 May 1998 16:06:01 +0100 Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise 4.1 Date: Thu, 28 May 1998 16:05:27 +0100 From: Nick Bown To: majordomo-users@greatcircle.com Subject: The case of the missing archives Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Disposition: inline Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk Hi, I've just gotten around to installing Majordomo 1.94.4 onto my old Linux box (clone PC, Linux 1.2.13, Perl 5.00, Sendmail 8.6.12) and things are running 90% ok. However, there is a slight problem with the archiving system. The archives are created but the index and get commands don't seem to be able to find them; I just get the 'No files available' message. The installation is pretty much vanilla with the archives being created in the list subdirectory which is owned by the majordomo user (majordom) and the majordomo group. The ls -lRL command is used and the files are visible to the majordomo user. Does anyone have any idea what could be causing this? I have been over the configuration and file access rights with a fine toothed comb and its beginning to drive me mad. Thanks, Nick Bown From majordomo-users-owner Thu May 28 08:21:36 1998 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-970926-1) id IAA08719; Thu, 28 May 1998 08:01:10 -0700 (PDT) Received: from odin.thule.no (odin.thule.no [195.18.176.82]) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-980202-1) with ESMTP id IAA08711 for ; Thu, 28 May 1998 08:00:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (pettern@localhost) by odin.thule.no (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id RAA06786 for ; Thu, 28 May 1998 17:02:34 +0200 Date: Thu, 28 May 1998 17:02:33 +0200 (MET DST) From: Petter Nilsen To: majordomo-users@greatcircle.com Subject: Patch to uuencode files sent with the GET command Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk Here is a patch for majordomo 1.94.4 that will uuencode files sent via the GET command. Without this patch applied, majordomo will send files raw in the mail, which is not very nice for compressed mailing list archives. Note that I do not consider myself knowledgable about perl and the changes should probably be cleaned up by someone who knows the inner workings of majordomo better than me. Hope someone finds this useful. - Petter Nilsen, pettern@thule.no *** majordomo.orig Mon May 25 21:07:11 1998 --- majordomo Tue May 26 16:49:46 1998 *************** *** 80,85 **** --- 80,88 ---- $bounce_mailer = "$sendmail_command -f\$sender -t" unless defined $bounce_mailer; + # define the encoder + $encode_program = "/usr/bin/uuencode" + unless defined $encode_program &set_abort_addr($whoami_owner); &set_mail_from($whoami); *************** *** 1306,1320 **** } else { # file handling is done locally. if (&lopen(GETFILE, " ", "$clean_file")) { # Set up the sendmail process to send the file &sendmail(GETFILEMSG, $reply_to, "Majordomo file: list '$clean_list' file '$filename'"); ! while () { ! print GETFILEMSG $_; } # close (and thereby send) the file close(GETFILEMSG); - &lclose(GETFILE); print REPLY <<"EOM"; List '$clean_list' file '$filename' is being sent as a separate message. --- 1309,1328 ---- } else { # file handling is done locally. if (&lopen(GETFILE, " ", "$clean_file")) { + &lclose(GETFILE); # Set up the sendmail process to send the file &sendmail(GETFILEMSG, $reply_to, "Majordomo file: list '$clean_list' file '$filename'"); ! ! $basefile = substr($clean_file, rindex ($clean_file, '/') + 1); ! if (open(GETFILE, "$encode_program $clean_file $basefile |")) { ! while () { ! print GETFILEMSG $_; ! } ! close(GETFILE); } # close (and thereby send) the file close(GETFILEMSG); print REPLY <<"EOM"; List '$clean_list' file '$filename' is being sent as a separate message. From majordomo-users-owner Thu May 28 08:41:58 1998 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-970926-1) id IAA09622; Thu, 28 May 1998 08:34:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: from rubicon.hasler.ascom.ch (rubicon.hasler.ascom.ch [139.79.129.1]) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-980202-1) with ESMTP id IAA09615 for ; Thu, 28 May 1998 08:33:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ens.ascom.ch (chieftain.ens.ascom.ch [139.79.60.1]) by rubicon.hasler.ascom.ch (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id RAA12940 for ; Thu, 28 May 1998 17:34:30 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from spbx399.ens.ascom.ch by ens.ascom.ch (4.1/SMI-4.1-DNI-7.0.1) id AA25958; Thu, 28 May 98 17:36:02 +0200 Received: from spbx09.ens.ascom.ch by spbx399.ens.ascom.ch (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id QAA10143; Thu, 28 May 1998 16:34:24 +0100 Received: by spbx09.ens.ascom.ch (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id QAA23343; Thu, 28 May 1998 16:34:22 +0100 Date: Thu, 28 May 1998 16:34:22 +0100 From: lewis@ens.ascom.ch (Mark Lewis - Ascom CWXE Cardiff UK) Message-Id: <199805281534.QAA23343@spbx09.ens.ascom.ch> To: majordomo-users@GreatCircle.COM Subject: How to bounce mail back to sender? Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Md5: IacWUV8/W7xyQcaI8UvZFw== Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk Hi I have a problem with users of our various mailing list posting messages with large attachments. I have set the message size limit to 40k but this is exceeded from time to time. The result is that I end up with a bounced mail message in my mailbox and NO indiction sent to the original sender of the message. I then have to send a message manually to the person concerned informing them of the problem. I would like the bounce message to be sent to the message sender. I have done some investigation in the documentation but cannot find a way (easily) to do this. Does anyone know how I can set this up? We are using Majordomo 1.94 on Solaris 2.5.1 Cheers Mark ------------------------------------------------------------------ | Mark Lewis | Phone: +44-1222-774501 | | Ascom Telecommunications Ltd | Fax: +44-1222-774500 | | Cypress Drive | Email: lewis@ens.ascom.ch | | Cardiff, CF3 0EG, UK | http://www.ascom.ch/ | ------------------------------------------------------------------ From majordomo-users-owner Thu May 28 10:45:05 1998 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-970926-1) id KAA13149; Thu, 28 May 1998 10:34:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: from stadio.mediasat.it (MediaSat-to-Pozzuoli-2.Cyber-Net.Net [194.21.114.26]) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-980202-1) with ESMTP id KAA13090 for ; Thu, 28 May 1998 10:29:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (gaetano@localhost) by stadio.mediasat.it (8.8.8/8.8.7) with SMTP id TAA27795 for ; Thu, 28 May 1998 19:31:28 GMT Date: Thu, 28 May 1998 19:31:28 +0000 (GMT) From: Gaetano Della Rocca To: majordomo-users@greatcircle.com Subject: Resend troubles Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk Hello all, I got this problem ONLY when I post a mail to a list. I checked ALL the #!/paths/to/perl5.004 All files and directory permissions The path to Sendmail program My system is a Linux 2.0.33 ./wrapper config-test succeded ALL the operation for subscribing an unsubscribing work fine (try majordomo@mediasat.it if you want...) My /usr/local/etc/aliases file is: # START Majordomo: "|/usr/local/majordomo-1.94.4/wrapper majordomo" owner-majordomo: gaetano majordomo-owner: gaetano # # aliases for test # test: "|/usr/local/majordomo-1.94.4/wrapper resend -l test -h mediasat.it" owner-test: gaetano test-request: "|/usr/local/majordomo-1.94.4/wrapper request-answer test" test-approval: gaetano # END OF ALIASES FILE And this is what the daemon sends to gaetano as soon someone send a mail: ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Fri, 22 May 1998 20:22:55 GMT From: Mail Delivery Subsystem To: gaetano@stadio.mediasat.it Subject: Returned mail: unknown mailer error 22 The original message was received at Fri, 22 May 1998 20:20:42 GMT from gaetano@localhost ----- The following addresses had permanent fatal errors ----- "|/usr/local/majordomo-1.94.4/wrapper resend -l test -h mediasat.it" (expanded from: ) ----- Transcript of session follows ----- 554 "|/usr/local/majordomo-1.94.4/wrapper resend -l test -h mediasat.it"... unknown mailer error 22 PLEASE, where is my my mistake? THANX a LOT Gaetano From majordomo-users-owner Thu May 28 10:56:31 1998 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-970926-1) id KAA13431; Thu, 28 May 1998 10:48:41 -0700 (PDT) Received: from strontium.Teknowledge.COM (strontium.Teknowledge.COM [128.136.240.1]) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-980202-1) with ESMTP id KAA13424 for ; Thu, 28 May 1998 10:48:35 -0700 (PDT) Received: from bismuth (bismuth [128.136.10.110]) by strontium.Teknowledge.COM (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id KAA02474 for ; Thu, 28 May 1998 10:49:08 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <3.0.32.19980528104247.00cb8a70@mailhost.teknowledge.com> X-Sender: apease@mailhost.teknowledge.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0 (32) Date: Thu, 28 May 1998 10:42:51 -0700 To: majordomo-users@greatcircle.com From: Adam Pease Subject: Javascript interface? Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk Folks, Is is possible to call majordomo functions from JavaScript? I'd like to create a web page which always the current membership of a set of mailing lists. Can someone provide a pointer or example for this? many thanks, Adam ____________________________________ Adam Pease apease@teknowledge.com Teknowledge (650) 424-0500 x571 From majordomo-users-owner Thu May 28 11:18:35 1998 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-970926-1) id LAA13803; Thu, 28 May 1998 11:05:19 -0700 (PDT) Received: from sina.hpc.uh.edu (Sina.HPC.UH.EDU [129.7.3.5]) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-980202-1) with ESMTP id LAA13796 for ; Thu, 28 May 1998 11:05:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from tibbs@localhost) by sina.hpc.uh.edu (8.7.3/8.7.3) id NAA14895; Thu, 28 May 1998 13:05:48 -0500 (CDT) To: Gaetano Della Rocca Cc: majordomo-users@GreatCircle.COM Subject: Re: Resend troubles References: Mime-Version: 1.0 (generated by tm-edit 7.100) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII From: Jason L Tibbitts III Date: 28 May 1998 13:05:47 -0500 In-Reply-To: Gaetano Della Rocca's message of "Thu, 28 May 1998 19:31:28 +0000 (GMT)" Message-ID: Lines: 18 X-Mailer: Gnus v5.6.9/Emacs 19.34 Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk >>>>> "GDR" == Gaetano Della Rocca writes: GDR> I got this problem ONLY when I post a mail to a list. Because you got the aliases wrong. GDR> test: "|/usr/local/majordomo-1.94.4/wrapper resend -l test -h mediasat.it" You're missing the outgoing alias entirely. Please read over the documentation (specifically NEWLIST) and try implementing a proper set of aliases, something like: test: "|/usr/local/majordomo-1.94.4/wrapper resend -l test -h mediasat.it test-outgoing" test-outgoing: :include:/path/to/lists/test plus the rest of the required aliases. - J< From majordomo-users-owner Thu May 28 19:41:36 1998 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-970926-1) id TAA19907; Thu, 28 May 1998 19:27:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: from www.devco.ca (devco.ca [199.126.248.250]) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-980202-1) with ESMTP id TAA19900 for ; Thu, 28 May 1998 19:27:17 -0700 (PDT) Received: from dww.devco.ca ([199.126.248.201]) by www.devco.ca (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id XAA08518 for ; Thu, 28 May 1998 23:38:11 -0300 (ADT) Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.19980528231727.007b2500@devco.ca> X-Sender: teck@devco.ca X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.5 (32) Date: Thu, 28 May 1998 23:17:27 -0300 To: majordomo-users@greatcircle.com From: Disk Wizzard Subject: config? Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk Hello all Im getting an x mailer error.... X-Authentication-Warning: www.devco.ca: Unknown UID 123 set sender to owner-Netnews@devco.ca using -f I can remember seeing something about the cause of this in one of the docs i have looked at but i cant find it now that i need it?:) how do i get it fixed?? thanks From majordomo-users-owner Fri May 29 00:11:59 1998 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-970926-1) id XAA22871; Thu, 28 May 1998 23:57:48 -0700 (PDT) Received: from natacha.ambrasoft.lu (natacha.ambrasoft.lu [194.154.208.7]) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-980202-1) with ESMTP id XAA22864 for ; Thu, 28 May 1998 23:57:40 -0700 (PDT) Received: by natacha.ambrasoft.lu with Internet Mail Service (5.0.1458.49) id ; Fri, 29 May 1998 08:48:26 +0200 Message-ID: <113BA733C237D011BFA74854E82102F635C84B@natacha.ambrasoft.lu> From: CARPENTIER Michel To: "'Adam Pease'" Cc: "'majordomo-users@greatcircle.com'" Subject: RE: Javascript interface? Date: Fri, 29 May 1998 08:48:23 +0200 X-Priority: 3 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.0.1458.49) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk Hi,=20 I don't think it will be possible to do anything with Javascript to access Majordomo function. Javascript isn't IMHO a language to do such things... You should probably use Java instead. C ya --Mike, -----------------------%<---------------------------- Michel Carpentier Ambrasoft mca@ambrasoft.lu Tel : +352 403420 226 ICQ : 6898839 (http://www.icq.com/) Plus un ordinateur est puissant, plus il ex=E9cute d'instructions en un temps donn=E9. Plus un ordinateur ex=E9cute d'instructions, plus il y a de risque d'en ex=E9cuter une qui plante le syst=E8me. > -----Original Message----- > From: Adam Pease [SMTP:apease@Teknowledge.COM] > Sent: Thursday, May 28, 1998 7:43 PM > To: majordomo-users@greatcircle.com > Subject: Javascript interface? >=20 > Folks, > Is is possible to call majordomo functions from JavaScript? I'd > like to > create a web page which always the current membership of a set of > mailing > lists. Can someone provide a pointer or example for this? >=20 > many thanks, > Adam >=20 > ____________________________________ > Adam Pease apease@teknowledge.com > Teknowledge (650) 424-0500 x571 From majordomo-users-owner Fri May 29 07:26:24 1998 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-970926-1) id HAA00770; Fri, 29 May 1998 07:21:29 -0700 (PDT) Received: from acunet.net ([208.203.130.2]) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-980202-1) with ESMTP id HAA00763 for ; Fri, 29 May 1998 07:21:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: from otispc (otispc.acunet.net [208.203.130.53]) by acunet.net (8.8.7/8.8.4) with SMTP id KAA22581; Fri, 29 May 1998 10:21:53 -0400 (EDT) From: "Otis Gospodnetic" To: "CARPENTIER Michel" , "'Adam Pease'" Cc: "'majordomo-users@greatcircle.com'" Subject: Re: Javascript interface? Date: Fri, 29 May 1998 10:13:24 -0500 Message-ID: <01bd8b14$52e2bd40$3582cbd0@otispc.acunet.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.71.1712.3 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.71.1712.3 Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk Ah, that is not a very good statement/explanation. The problem is that JavaScript is (most often) used on the client side (browser), and your majordomo is something that doesn't leave the server. You could maybe send e-mail to majordomo from JavaScript but JS would be the wrong tool to do that with. Java applets create a similar situation (they run inside your browser). YOu could use them to send email, but again, wrong tool. You could use Servlets to access majordomo, but this would be an overkill. and so on... Otis >Hi, > >I don't think it will be possible to do anything with Javascript to >access Majordomo function. >Javascript isn't IMHO a language to do such things... >You should probably use Java instead. >C ya > >--Mike, > >-----------------------%<---------------------------- >Michel Carpentier >Ambrasoft >mca@ambrasoft.lu >Tel : +352 403420 226 >ICQ : 6898839 (http://www.icq.com/) > >Plus un ordinateur est puissant, plus il exécute d'instructions en un >temps donné. >Plus un ordinateur exécute d'instructions, plus il y a de risque d'en >exécuter une qui plante le système. > >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Adam Pease [SMTP:apease@Teknowledge.COM] >> Sent: Thursday, May 28, 1998 7:43 PM >> To: majordomo-users@greatcircle.com >> Subject: Javascript interface? >> >> Folks, >> Is is possible to call majordomo functions from JavaScript? I'd >> like to >> create a web page which always the current membership of a set of >> mailing >> lists. Can someone provide a pointer or example for this? >> >> many thanks, >> Adam >> >> ____________________________________ >> Adam Pease apease@teknowledge.com >> Teknowledge (650) 424-0500 x571 > From majordomo-users-owner Fri May 29 08:41:52 1998 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-970926-1) id IAA01701; Fri, 29 May 1998 08:40:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: from linus.mitre.org (linus.mitre.org [129.83.10.1]) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-980202-1) with ESMTP id IAA01692 for ; Fri, 29 May 1998 08:40:22 -0700 (PDT) Received: from caffeine.mitre.org (caffeine [129.83.10.136]) by linus.mitre.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id LAA10140 for ; Fri, 29 May 1998 11:41:02 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from justin@localhost) by caffeine.mitre.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id LAA02784; Fri, 29 May 1998 11:41:00 -0400 (EDT) To: majordomo-users@greatcircle.com Subject: Re: FINDMAIL.COM References: <199805201856.OAA13073@pony-2.mail.digex.net> <199805280351.WAA08178@midrange.com> From: Justin Sheehy Date: 29 May 1998 11:40:59 -0400 In-Reply-To: David Gibbs's message of "Wed, 27 May 1998 22:47:56 -0500" Message-ID: Lines: 17 X-Mailer: Gnus v5.6.9/Emacs 20.2 Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk David Gibbs writes: > Well, they won't be able to resubscribe to my lists... Nor mine. > Seriously, I've employed a patch I created recently to ignore certian > addresses.. any address that has the word FINDMAIL in it will be ignored. Aw, heck. It's easier than that once you realize that they don't ever have anything worth saying or doing. It's trivial to make the MTA of your choice just refuse all mail from their site. That makes subscribing rather difficult. -Justin From majordomo-users-owner Fri May 29 11:56:45 1998 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-970926-1) id LAA04124; Fri, 29 May 1998 11:47:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mailgate2.boeing.com (mailgate2.boeing.com [199.238.248.100]) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-980202-1) with ESMTP id LAA04117 for ; Fri, 29 May 1998 11:47:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: from xch-wchbh-02.ks.boeing.com ([132.173.105.103]) by mailgate2.boeing.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA23140 for ; Fri, 29 May 1998 11:48:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: by xch-wchbh-02.ks.boeing.com with Internet Mail Service (5.0.1458.49) id ; Fri, 29 May 1998 13:48:00 -0500 Message-ID: From: "Jones, Russ" To: "'CARPENTIER Michel'" Cc: "'majordomo-users@greatcircle.com'" Subject: RE: Javascript interface? Date: Fri, 29 May 1998 13:47:58 -0500 X-Priority: 3 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.0.1458.49) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk Java and Javascript run on the client. This looks like a server side = app to me. You probably want a CGI script in whatever language you're comfortable with. > ---------- > From: CARPENTIER Michel[SMTP:mca@ambrasoft.lu] > Sent: Friday, May 29, 1998 1:48 AM > To: 'Adam Pease' > Cc: 'majordomo-users@greatcircle.com' > Subject: RE: Javascript interface? >=20 > Hi,=20 >=20 > I don't think it will be possible to do anything with Javascript to > access Majordomo function. > Javascript isn't IMHO a language to do such things... > You should probably use Java instead. > C ya >=20 > --Mike, >=20 > -----------------------%<---------------------------- > Michel Carpentier > Ambrasoft > mca@ambrasoft.lu > Tel : +352 403420 226 > ICQ : 6898839 (http://www.icq.com/) >=20 > Plus un ordinateur est puissant, plus il ex=E9cute d'instructions en = un > temps donn=E9. > Plus un ordinateur ex=E9cute d'instructions, plus il y a de risque = d'en > ex=E9cuter une qui plante le syst=E8me. >=20 > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Adam Pease [SMTP:apease@Teknowledge.COM] > > Sent: Thursday, May 28, 1998 7:43 PM > > To: majordomo-users@greatcircle.com > > Subject: Javascript interface? > >=20 > > Folks, > > Is is possible to call majordomo functions from JavaScript? I'd > > like to > > create a web page which always the current membership of a set of > > mailing > > lists. Can someone provide a pointer or example for this? > >=20 > > many thanks, > > Adam > >=20 > > ____________________________________ > > Adam Pease apease@teknowledge.com > > Teknowledge (650) 424-0500 x571 >=20 From majordomo-users-owner Fri May 29 14:41:24 1998 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-970926-1) id OAA06189; Fri, 29 May 1998 14:38:30 -0700 (PDT) Received: from SNEEZY.USU.EDU (sneezy.usu.edu [129.123.1.87]) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-980202-1) with ESMTP id OAA06182 for ; Fri, 29 May 1998 14:38:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: from toad.spy.sdl.usu.edu by cc.usu.edu (PMDF V5.1-9 #23984) with SMTP id <01IXM03CHOL8AEWSYG@cc.usu.edu> for majordomo-users@greatcircle.com; Fri, 29 May 1998 15:39:06 MST Received: from scrooge.csd.sdl.usu.edu by toad.spy.sdl.usu.edu via SMTP (950413.SGI.8.6.12/930416.SGI) for id PAA19899; Fri, 29 May 1998 15:39:05 -0600 Received: (qmail 15763 invoked by uid 1638); Fri, 29 May 1998 15:38:31 -0600 Date: Fri, 29 May 1998 15:38:31 -0600 From: jeff@scrooge.csd.sdl.usu.edu (Jeff Salisbury) Subject: Don't sent info/greeting message? To: majordomo-users@greatcircle.com Reply-to: jeff.salisbury@sdl.usu.edu Message-id: <980529153831.ZM15760@scrooge.csd.sdl.usu.edu> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Z-Mail (5.0.0 30July97) Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk Greetings, I'm new to this list, so pardon me if this has been asked recently... I manage half a dozen majordomo lists. Recently, I sent up a "bounces" list to use. I would like to configure the list to NOT send out the initial info/greeting that usually goes out. Does anyone know how to do this? I've considered deleting the "bounces.info" file, but I hesitate to try it since I share the Majordomo software with 100 or so other list owners at my ISP. Best Regards, Jeff From majordomo-users-owner Fri May 29 17:41:24 1998 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-970926-1) id RAA08103; Fri, 29 May 1998 17:29:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: from sina.hpc.uh.edu (Sina.HPC.UH.EDU [129.7.3.5]) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-980202-1) with ESMTP id RAA08096 for ; Fri, 29 May 1998 17:28:56 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from tibbs@localhost) by sina.hpc.uh.edu (8.7.3/8.7.3) id TAA15742; Fri, 29 May 1998 19:30:00 -0500 (CDT) To: jeff.salisbury@sdl.usu.edu Cc: majordomo-users@GreatCircle.COM Subject: Re: Don't sent info/greeting message? References: <980529153831.ZM15760@scrooge.csd.sdl.usu.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 (generated by tm-edit 7.100) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII From: Jason L Tibbitts III Date: 29 May 1998 19:29:59 -0500 In-Reply-To: jeff@scrooge.csd.sdl.usu.edu's message of "Fri, 29 May 1998 15:38:31 -0600" Message-ID: Lines: 12 X-Mailer: Gnus v5.6.9/Emacs 19.34 Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk >>>>> "JS" == Jeff Salisbury writes: JS> I'm new to this list, so pardon me if this has been asked recently... It has, but this answer would be in the archives. JS> I would like to configure the list to NOT send out the initial JS> info/greeting that usually goes out. Make sure you have the latest version (1.94.4) and set welcome = no. - J< From majordomo-users-owner Fri May 29 18:26:24 1998 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-970926-1) id SAA08688; Fri, 29 May 1998 18:12:51 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail.xmission.com (mail.xmission.com [198.60.22.22]) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-980202-1) with SMTP id SAA08681 for ; Fri, 29 May 1998 18:12:44 -0700 (PDT) Received: from (sdl.usu.edu) [166.70.3.216] by mail.xmission.com with esmtp (Exim 1.82 #2) id 0yfaDC-0002Nr-00; Fri, 29 May 1998 19:13:31 -0600 Message-ID: <356F5D35.71396D69@sdl.usu.edu> Date: Fri, 29 May 1998 19:13:26 -0600 From: Jeff Salisbury Organization: Space Dynamics Lab X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.05 [en] (Win95; U) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: majordomo-users@GreatCircle.COM Subject: Re: Attachment Filter Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk > My suggestion: add a few lines to your list info file describing how to turn > off the extra junk in these mailers (the info is around here somewhere, not > sure where though) and keep bouncing messages with the rules you have in place > now. If (when!) people complain, point them at the list info message. This > garbage is, after all, their problem -- not yours. > > I have /^Content-Type: / in my lists' taboo_body settings and automatically > forward the BOUNCE messages that result back to the users with a polite > explanation why. No complaints yet. > > -- > ::: Lazlo (lazlo@swcp.com; http://www.swcp.com/lazlo) Lazlo, I'm familiar with using the taboo features, but how do you automatically forward the BOUNCE message to the user? Are you doing it directoy with majordomo? Or, have you set up a filter in your personal email tool? Jeff From majordomo-users-owner Fri May 29 22:26:24 1998 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-970926-1) id WAA11305; Fri, 29 May 1998 22:17:06 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lahackers.org (wopr.lahackers.org [165.113.174.50]) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-980202-1) with ESMTP id WAA11298 for ; Fri, 29 May 1998 22:16:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (feedle@localhost) by lahackers.org (8.8.8/8.7.2) with SMTP id VAA16420 for ; Fri, 29 May 1998 21:17:56 -0700 Date: Fri, 29 May 1998 21:17:55 -0700 (PDT) From: "Prof. Feedlebom" Reply-To: "Prof. Feedlebom" To: majordomo-users@greatcircle.com Subject: Re: FINDMAIL.COM In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk > Aw, heck. It's easier than that once you realize that they don't ever > have anything worth saying or doing. It's trivial to make the MTA of > your choice just refuse all mail from their site. Something that hasn't been discussed here, but I'm sure is worth pursuing for some of us with lists that contain "sensitive" information, is to intentionally use findmail to run FUD. I've created a number of "fake" messages for my list, "added it" to their service, and I'll be spoon-feeding it the FUD-filled messages over the next couple of days. I can also see how feeding them a thousand or so "shove it up your sendmail port" messages might get them to start ignoring requests by people to add your lists to their "service." -Faedl From majordomo-users-owner Fri May 29 23:50:15 1998 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-970926-1) id XAA12322; Fri, 29 May 1998 23:18:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: (mcb@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-980202-1) id XAA12312 for majordomo-users@greatcircle.com; Fri, 29 May 1998 23:17:58 -0700 (PDT) Received: from sms1.uwec.edu (sms1.uwec.edu [137.28.7.109]) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-980202-1) with ESMTP id IAA20185 for ; Thu, 21 May 1998 08:02:11 -0700 (PDT) Received: by sms1.uwec.edu with Internet Mail Service (5.0.1457.3) id <2BRYLDDX>; Thu, 21 May 1998 10:07:08 -0500 Message-ID: From: Eric Stevens To: "'Majordomo-Users@GreatCircle.COM'" Subject: Owner removing members Date: Thu, 21 May 1998 10:07:07 -0500 X-Priority: 3 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.0.1457.3) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk Majordomo Users, Is there a command, for the owner of the list to use, to remove a member of the list that is no longer using the list? Thanks Eric Eric Stevens UW-Eau Claire Email Admin 715.836.6026 stevenej@uwec.edu From majordomo-users-owner Fri May 29 23:51:38 1998 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-970926-1) id XAA12309; Fri, 29 May 1998 23:17:51 -0700 (PDT) Received: (mcb@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-980202-1) id XAA12299 for majordomo-users@greatcircle.com; Fri, 29 May 1998 23:17:48 -0700 (PDT) Received: from bentley.microtronix.ca (bentley.microtronix.ca [206.186.67.100]) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-980202-1) with ESMTP id HAA19185 for ; Thu, 21 May 1998 07:04:37 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (jordas@localhost) by bentley.microtronix.ca (8.8.5/8.8.6) with SMTP id KAA06513 for ; Thu, 21 May 1998 10:11:46 -0400 Date: Thu, 21 May 1998 10:11:46 -0400 (EDT) From: James Ordas To: majordomo-users@greatcircle.com Subject: approve... Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk I've set up a moderated list that seems to work ok, but when a subscriber tries to post to it, you get one of those "Subject: BOUNCE: : Approval required" headers in it. In the documentation, it says that majordomo should send a template of the approval message that has an APPROVE in the subject line. Granted, you can approve this sort of thing manually, but ... What's up? From majordomo-users-owner Fri May 29 23:55:58 1998 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-970926-1) id XAA12691; Fri, 29 May 1998 23:23:29 -0700 (PDT) Received: (mcb@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-980202-1) id XAA12681 for majordomo-users@greatcircle.com; Fri, 29 May 1998 23:23:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: from miles.greatcircle.com (miles.greatcircle.com [198.102.244.45]) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-980202-1) with ESMTP id SAA02567 for ; Wed, 27 May 1998 18:12:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nucleus.nectec.or.th (nucleus.nectec.or.th [202.44.204.9]) by miles.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id DAA29595 for ; Wed, 27 May 1998 03:52:11 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (phen@localhost) by nucleus.nectec.or.th (8.8.8/8.8.5) with SMTP id RAA11527 for ; Wed, 27 May 1998 17:50:54 +0700 (GMT+0700) Date: Wed, 27 May 1998 17:50:53 +0700 (GMT+0700) From: Siriphen Wikaisuksakul To: majordomo-users@GreatCircle.COM Subject: Can't send to subscriber. Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk Hi My server is Digital Unix 4.0C, run perl 5.004_02, sendmail 8.8.8, majordomo 1.94. When I send message to the list, the message can not send to subscriber but this message was kept to the archive file ?? How can I resolve this problem? Phen W. From majordomo-users-owner Fri May 29 23:56:27 1998 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-970926-1) id XAA12348; Fri, 29 May 1998 23:18:16 -0700 (PDT) Received: (mcb@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-980202-1) id XAA12340 for majordomo-users@greatcircle.com; Fri, 29 May 1998 23:18:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: from homer.libby.org (ns.libby.org [208.137.111.15]) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-980202-1) with ESMTP id LAA25550 for ; Thu, 21 May 1998 11:37:10 -0700 (PDT) Received: from B5100DPSCANLAN.MCFP.WAPA.GOV ([198.233.50.54]) by homer.libby.org (8.8.8/8.8.7) with SMTP id MAA28443 for ; Thu, 21 May 1998 12:40:38 -0600 (MDT) Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.19980521124652.007c1df0@mail.libby.org> X-Sender: patti@mail.libby.org X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.5 (32) Date: Thu, 21 May 1998 12:46:52 -0600 To: majordomo-users@GreatCircle.COM From: Patti Scanlan Subject: Different files for subscription addresses Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk The majordomo list (1.94) I run currently has the main address/subscription file, and a digest users subscription file. Right now we sign people up for a two week trial on our list. I would like to have a 3rd subscription file, with different configuration (to disable the get, who, etc) for the "trial" subscriptions. Is this possible?? Patti Scanlan BTW... thanks to all for answering my configuration question. The answer was to do a writeconfig to update. THANKS! From majordomo-users-owner Fri May 29 23:57:36 1998 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-970926-1) id XAA12393; Fri, 29 May 1998 23:18:41 -0700 (PDT) Received: (mcb@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-980202-1) id XAA12383 for majordomo-users@greatcircle.com; Fri, 29 May 1998 23:18:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: from stingray.ivision.co.uk (stingray.ivision.co.uk [195.50.91.40]) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-980202-1) with SMTP id MAA28406 for ; Thu, 21 May 1998 12:56:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pretender.ivision.co.uk [195.50.91.43] by stingray.ivision.co.uk with smtp (Exim 1.62 #2) id 0ycbVS-0003g3-00; Thu, 21 May 1998 21:00:02 +0100 Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.19980521205842.008692e0@stingray.ivision.co.uk> X-Sender: manarpop@stingray.ivision.co.uk X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.5 (32) Date: Thu, 21 May 1998 20:58:42 +0100 To: Chris Magnuson From: Manar Hussain Subject: Re: announce-only lists Cc: majordomo-users@greatcircle.com In-Reply-To: <199805210605.AAA13706@K3.peakpeak.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk At 00:02 21/05/98 -0600, Chris Magnuson wrote: >This has to be documented somewhere, I feel like an idiot. How do you set >up announce-only lists? Do you just set moderation on and filter any mail >that comes to the list that isn't subscribe or unsubscribe? I'd advise the best way is to switch moderation on and do manual approval (much less chance of mail loops which are usually particularly bad for annoucne lists) From majordomo-users-owner Sat May 30 00:11:51 1998 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-970926-1) id XAA12335; Fri, 29 May 1998 23:18:06 -0700 (PDT) Received: (mcb@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-980202-1) id XAA12325 for majordomo-users@greatcircle.com; Fri, 29 May 1998 23:18:04 -0700 (PDT) Received: from top.monad.net (top.monad.net [204.97.16.3]) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-980202-1) with ESMTP id JAA21909 for ; Thu, 21 May 1998 09:31:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (cgauthier@localhost) by top.monad.net (8.8.8/What) with SMTP id MAA29209; Thu, 21 May 1998 12:35:01 -0400 (EDT) Date: Thu, 21 May 1998 12:35:01 -0400 (EDT) From: Chris Gauthier To: David Epstein cc: mju Subject: Re: mungedomain In-Reply-To: <199805211438.PAA07656@primrose.csv.warwick.ac.uk> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk On Thu, 21 May 1998, David Epstein wrote: > Suppose person@place.edu is zubscribed. > > Does mungedomain recognize > person@machine.department.place.edu > as being the same? My guess would be that if standard mail to person@place.edu works, there shouldn't be a problem... ----- Chris Gauthier - MonadNet System Administrator cgauthier@monad.net MonadNet Corporation | Email: request@monad.net | TollFree:(800)576-1019 39 Central Square | System Status: 352-7619x300 | Info: (603)357-1894 Keene, NH 03431-3936 | TechSupport: (603)357-1894 | Fax:(603)357-1267 From majordomo-users-owner Sat May 30 00:12:02 1998 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-970926-1) id XAA12716; Fri, 29 May 1998 23:24:04 -0700 (PDT) Received: (mcb@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-980202-1) id XAA12706 for majordomo-users@greatcircle.com; Fri, 29 May 1998 23:24:02 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nthhex.hh.wlw.de ([195.125.177.5]) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-980202-1) with ESMTP id EAA05168 for ; Thu, 28 May 1998 04:29:43 -0700 (PDT) Received: by nthhex.hh.wlw.de with Internet Mail Service (5.0.1460.8) id ; Thu, 28 May 1998 13:29:55 +0200 Message-ID: <14B86E3C0ECFD111A796006008A94A07019AFC@nthhex.hh.wlw.de> From: "Vogt, Tom" To: "'majordomo-users@greatcircle.com'" Subject: weird problem Date: Thu, 28 May 1998 13:29:54 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.0.1460.8) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk I have a very weird problem with majordomo version 1.94.4 on a linux 2.0.32 system running perl 5.004 majordomo seems to partly ignore the lists' configuration files. the "partly" is the weird part. it does take the password, and the list itself runs ok, I can subscribe and unsubscribe (both direct and via approved+passwd), mails get resent and the *.info file gets sent out. however, things like fronter and footer are totally ignored, reply_to as well and - making the debugging a little tricky - debug also. anyone a hint for me? I've spent nearly a full day trying to find out what happens, down to going into the majordomo.pl file itself, but everything looks like it *should* work - but it doesn't. :-( From majordomo-users-owner Sat May 30 00:13:41 1998 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-970926-1) id XAA12294; Fri, 29 May 1998 23:17:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: (mcb@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-980202-1) id XAA12277 for majordomo-users@greatcircle.com; Fri, 29 May 1998 23:17:35 -0700 (PDT) Received: from dt050n33.san.rr.com (dt053nd2.san.rr.com [204.210.34.210]) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-980202-1) with ESMTP id BAA11146 for ; Thu, 21 May 1998 01:01:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: from san.rr.com (Studded@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by dt050n33.san.rr.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id AAA22723; Thu, 21 May 1998 00:42:31 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from Studded@san.rr.com) Message-ID: <3563DAE2.1F40B93D@san.rr.com> Date: Thu, 21 May 1998 00:42:28 -0700 From: Studded Organization: Triborough Bridge & Tunnel Authority X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.05 [en] (X11; I; FreeBSD 2.2.6-STABLE-0507 i386) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Gary Lockwood CC: majordomo-users@GreatCircle.COM Subject: Re: Can I surpress "Welcome" messages? References: <199805201517.IAA13533@gull.prod.itd.earthlink.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk Gary Lockwood wrote: > I'm maintaining a broadcast-only list (my list of publishers who receive > my articles). I'll be the only person putting people on the list. How > can I add someone to the list without them receiving a welcome message? Edit the list file directly. Doug -- *** Chief Operations Officer, DALnet IRC network *** *** Proud designer and maintainer of one of the world's largest *** Internet Relay Chat server with 5,328 simultaneous connections *** Try spider.dal.net on ports 6662-4 (Powered by FreeBSD) From majordomo-users-owner Sat May 30 00:17:07 1998 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-970926-1) id XAA12588; Fri, 29 May 1998 23:21:35 -0700 (PDT) Received: (mcb@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-980202-1) id XAA12578 for majordomo-users@greatcircle.com; Fri, 29 May 1998 23:21:33 -0700 (PDT) Received: from miles.greatcircle.com (miles.greatcircle.com [198.102.244.45]) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-980202-1) with ESMTP id SAA08707 for ; Wed, 27 May 1998 18:41:06 -0700 (PDT) Received: from luomat.peak.org (cc344191-a.ewndsr1.nj.home.com [24.2.83.40]) by miles.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id CAA12714 for ; Sun, 24 May 1998 02:23:56 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from luomat@localhost) by luomat.peak.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id FAA05530 for majordomo-users@GreatCircle.COM; Sun, 24 May 1998 05:22:36 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <199805240922.FAA05530@luomat.peak.org> Content-Type: text/plain MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Timothy J Luoma Date: Sun, 24 May 98 05:22:34 -0400 To: majordomo-users@GreatCircle.COM Subject: Where is the UID stored? Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk [ If you could CC me personally, I would appreciate it, as I am not on the list at the moment as my MD setup is simple and normally runs fine for the 2 lists I run ] I recently changed my system around and changed UIDs... I put all the daemons in the 200+ level... However, majordomo insisted on keeping its previous UID, and I could not figure out where it remembered it... I even went so far as to fgrep for the old UID (106) and still couldn't find it. Can anyone tell me where this is stored? It seems silly to have to recompile it to change the UID... perhaps this is some safety measure I do no understand.... Thanks TjL From majordomo-users-owner Sat May 30 00:21:46 1998 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-970926-1) id XAA12805; Fri, 29 May 1998 23:25:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: (mcb@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-980202-1) id XAA12797 for majordomo-users@greatcircle.com; Fri, 29 May 1998 23:25:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ncr-sd.SanDiegoCA.NCR.COM (h153-64-251-18.NCR.COM [153.64.251.18]) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-980202-1) with ESMTP id QAA18140 for ; Thu, 28 May 1998 16:27:41 -0700 (PDT) Received: from jabberwocky (jabberwocky.SanDiegoCA.NCR.COM [153.64.69.123]) by ncr-sd.SanDiegoCA.NCR.COM (8.8.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id QAA11431; Thu, 28 May 1998 16:27:50 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199805282327.QAA11431@ncr-sd.SanDiegoCA.NCR.COM> X-Sender: bhoule@www.sandiegoca.ncr.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.0.1 Date: Thu, 28 May 1998 16:25:12 -0700 To: Richard Hopkins From: Bill Houle Subject: Re: MajorCool (1.3.0) truncating restrict_post on modify Cc: Majordomo-Users@GreatCircle.COM In-Reply-To: References: <199805190028.RAA15273@ncr-sd.SanDiegoCA.NCR.COM> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk At 09:02 AM 5/19/98 +0100, Richard Hopkins wrote: > >Sorry for not making that clear, earlier.... > >I think the problem is with MajorCool truncating somewhere along the line, >as I don't get the problem when I use majordomo itself. I haven't forgotten this. I did some tests on my setup and all is well. The restrict_post element size is 128 bytes, but yours is truncating well before that. Not so on mine. I might suspect some combination of your specific browser/server. I'll set you up with a beta version offline and you can test for yourself. --bill From majordomo-users-owner Sat May 30 00:22:33 1998 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-970926-1) id XAA12414; Fri, 29 May 1998 23:18:56 -0700 (PDT) Received: (mcb@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-980202-1) id XAA12406 for majordomo-users@greatcircle.com; Fri, 29 May 1998 23:18:54 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ncr-sd.SanDiegoCA.NCR.COM (h153-64-251-18.NCR.COM [153.64.251.18]) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-980202-1) with ESMTP id PAA03954 for ; Thu, 21 May 1998 15:18:36 -0700 (PDT) Received: from jabberwocky (jabberwocky.SanDiegoCA.NCR.COM [153.64.69.123]) by ncr-sd.SanDiegoCA.NCR.COM (8.8.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id PAA13691; Thu, 21 May 1998 15:21:31 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199805212221.PAA13691@ncr-sd.SanDiegoCA.NCR.COM> X-Sender: bhoule@www.sandiegoca.ncr.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.0.1 Date: Thu, 21 May 1998 15:12:20 -0700 To: Tim Connolly , Chris Magnuson From: Bill Houle Subject: Re: announce-only lists Cc: majordomo-users@GreatCircle.COM In-Reply-To: <35649498.92F48E0F@mountain.net> References: <199805210605.AAA13706@K3.peakpeak.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk At 04:54 PM 5/21/98 -0400, Tim Connolly wrote: > Thats a tough one! I used "closed" in every option possible and made the >restrict_post file list only my email address. The problem is, all mail is seen >coming from me so anyone can fake my address and send anyway... It might be >better to make a fake email address in the restrict_post file and then send >your mail out by approving your own bounces. What a pain.. > Anyone have a better suggestion ??? Use moderate, not restrict_post. Then, when approving, purposely delete the From: header so the mail will appear to come from owner-list. More secure, and a little less name-specific. --bill From majordomo-users-owner Sat May 30 00:23:56 1998 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-970926-1) id XAA12605; Fri, 29 May 1998 23:21:50 -0700 (PDT) Received: (mcb@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-980202-1) id XAA12595 for majordomo-users@greatcircle.com; Fri, 29 May 1998 23:21:48 -0700 (PDT) Received: from miles.greatcircle.com (miles.greatcircle.com [198.102.244.45]) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-980202-1) with ESMTP id SAA05093 for ; Wed, 27 May 1998 18:25:53 -0700 (PDT) Received: from homer.libby.org (ns.libby.org [208.137.111.15]) by miles.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA24418 for ; Tue, 26 May 1998 09:22:41 -0700 (PDT) Received: from B5100DPSCANLAN.MCFP.WAPA.GOV ([198.233.50.54]) by homer.libby.org (8.8.8/8.8.7) with SMTP id KAA24102 for ; Tue, 26 May 1998 10:19:37 -0600 (MDT) Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.19980526102240.007b63f0@mail.libby.org> X-Sender: patti@mail.libby.org X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.5 (32) Date: Tue, 26 May 1998 10:22:40 -0600 To: majordomo-users@GreatCircle.COM From: Patti Scanlan Subject: Limiting access to Get, Who, etc Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk I currently have a majordomo 1.94 list running. We have the main list, a digest, and a seperate list for "trial" users. The restrict-post option is set as: list:list-digest:list-trial The 'trial' users list is for people that are trying our list... prior to completely subscribing. We would like to not allow the 'trial' users access to our archived info (the get, who, etc). Is this possible? In the configuration on the main list we have get_access = list because we don't want it closed as then the people subscribed to that address would not be able to get files, etc. In the configuration on the 'trial' list... we have all those options listed as = closed. We do want the members of the 'trial' list to be able to post... just not 'get' the archives Thanks! Patti Scanlan From majordomo-users-owner Sat May 30 00:25:08 1998 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-970926-1) id XAA12536; Fri, 29 May 1998 23:20:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: (mcb@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-980202-1) id XAA12526 for majordomo-users@greatcircle.com; Fri, 29 May 1998 23:20:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: from miles.greatcircle.com (miles.greatcircle.com [198.102.244.45]) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-980202-1) with ESMTP id SAA03018 for ; Wed, 27 May 1998 18:15:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: from stmpy.cais.net (stmpy.cais.net [199.0.216.101]) by miles.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id WAA26909 for ; Tue, 26 May 1998 22:13:58 -0700 (PDT) Received: from chele.cais.com (jas@chele.cais.com [199.0.216.212]) by stmpy.cais.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id FAA04761 for ; Wed, 27 May 1998 05:12:45 GMT Date: Wed, 27 May 1998 01:12:21 -0400 (EDT) From: "Jason K. Schechner" Reply-To: FiXXiT@off-road.com To: majordomo-users@GreatCircle.COM Subject: mail loops? In-Reply-To: <2.2.32.19980521210031.009eadfc@pop.sfo.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk I'm getting the following message a couple of times a day to the majordomo-owner address: -------------------------------------------------- From: Majordomo@unix.off-road.com To: Majordomo-Owner@unix.off-road.com Subject: MAJORDOMO ABORT (mj_majordomo) -- MAJORDOMO ABORT (mj_majordomo)!! Majordomo@lists.off-road.com: not replying to Majordomo to avoid mail loop. ---------------------------------------------------- Any idea what's causing this? Why would majordomo be replying to itself? This only started a couple weeks ago and I don't remember any changes made to the system then, though that doesn't mean that someone else didn't change it. Thanks! -Jason ----- Jason K. Schechner - check out www.cauce.org and help ban spam-mail. =The difference between genius and stupidity is that genius has bounds= JaSage: Is over-cooked Southern food petrifried? From majordomo-users-owner Sat May 30 00:26:26 1998 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-970926-1) id XAA12452; Fri, 29 May 1998 23:19:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: (mcb@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-980202-1) id XAA12442 for majordomo-users@greatcircle.com; Fri, 29 May 1998 23:19:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: from subzero.campus.luth.se (subzero.campus.luth.se [130.240.192.230]) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-980202-1) with ESMTP id QAA06108 for ; Thu, 21 May 1998 16:23:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: from subzero.campus.luth.se (olof@subzero.campus.luth.se [130.240.192.230]) by subzero.campus.luth.se (8.8.8/8.7.3) with SMTP id BAA21992 for ; Fri, 22 May 1998 01:27:00 +0200 (CEST) Date: Fri, 22 May 1998 01:26:59 +0200 (CEST) From: Olof Rymark Reply-To: Olof Rymark To: Majordomo-Users@GreatCircle.COM Subject: Abort, chown (a classic problem ?) Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk Hello! I've read the FAQ, the mailinglist archives but found no information that could help me. I have Majordomo 1.94 on my old Macintosh IIci running NetBSD 1.3 (Perl 5.004). The problem is it's impossible to unsubscribe from the lists. I've reinstalled it a couple of times, checked the Makefile, tested wrapper config-test but still can't find what's wrong. The error is as you probably already know: --- MAJORDOMO ABORT (mj_majordomo)!! chown(1013, 1013, "/usr/local/major/lists/webmaster.new"): Operation not permitted --- FYI: (1013, 1013) = (major, major) is the majordomo user. Possible errors: Wrapper permissions, here they are: -rwsr-xr-x 1 root major 17151 Mar 16 21:53 wrapper* Should something look different here ? If, please explain how the chmod/chown/chgrp command should look like to change it. Please respond directly to me as I'm not on the list. Any help appreciated. /Olof Rymark, Student at Univerisity of Lulea, Sweden ------------------------------------------------------------------------- olof.rymark@home.se ** ICQ# 3301121 ** http://powerpiece.campus.luth.se ------------------------------------------------------------------------- From majordomo-users-owner Sat May 30 00:29:36 1998 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-970926-1) id XAA12463; Fri, 29 May 1998 23:19:40 -0700 (PDT) Received: (mcb@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-980202-1) id XAA12455 for majordomo-users@greatcircle.com; Fri, 29 May 1998 23:19:37 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ex1.ncsa.uiuc.edu (ex1.ncsa.uiuc.edu [141.142.3.16]) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-980202-1) with ESMTP id QAA06553 for ; Thu, 21 May 1998 16:51:43 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.ncsa.uiuc.edu (mx1.ncsa.uiuc.edu [141.142.3.15]) by ex1.ncsa.uiuc.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id SAA09621; Thu, 21 May 1998 18:55:26 -0500 (CDT) Received: from ferret.ncsa.uiuc.edu (ferret.ncsa.uiuc.edu [141.142.21.119]) by mx1.ncsa.uiuc.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id SAA26415; Thu, 21 May 1998 18:55:26 -0500 (CDT) Received: (from lindsey@localhost) by ferret.ncsa.uiuc.edu (8.9.0/8.8.5) id SAA09442; Thu, 21 May 1998 18:55:19 -0500 From: Christopher Lindsey Message-Id: <199805212355.SAA09442@ferret.ncsa.uiuc.edu> Subject: Re: FINDMAIL.COM To: lazlo@swcp.com (Lazlo Nibble) Date: Thu, 21 May 1998 18:55:19 -0500 (CDT) Cc: majordomo-users@GreatCircle.COM In-Reply-To: <19980521165309.A16965@swcp.com> from "Lazlo Nibble" at May 21, 98 04:53:09 pm Content-Type: text Content-MD5: LS5k/a3m92AqUHq004GdWgAA Content-MD5-Origin: ferret.ncsa.uiuc.edu Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk > Good luck. I've been over this with them a number of times; they insist that > the address they use to subscribe to the lists they archive > (listsaver-of-listname@findmail.com, I think) counts as sufficient > notification to the list owner. I've passed along (with permission) the last > message I got from their lead apologist. > > FYI, they are currently archiving all the public lists at greatcircle as well. There's a big difference between a single list subscription and total redistribution to an undisclosed number of users. That's a blatant copyright violation, and any Internet lawyer will back you up. Each list that I maintain says in the .info file that users posting messages retain all rights to whatever copyrights they may hold. I suggest adding something like this. If findmail.com ever tries archiving our lists, they'll find themselves slapped with a class action suit on behalf of the list subscribers faster than they can say 'unsubscribe.' But just to be on the safe side, I'm blocking findmail.com from all SMTP transactions. :) Chris From majordomo-users-owner Sat May 30 00:30:28 1998 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-970926-1) id XAA12490; Fri, 29 May 1998 23:20:15 -0700 (PDT) Received: (mcb@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-980202-1) id XAA12481 for majordomo-users@greatcircle.com; Fri, 29 May 1998 23:20:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ex1.ncsa.uiuc.edu (ex1.ncsa.uiuc.edu [141.142.3.16]) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-980202-1) with ESMTP id QAA06553 for ; Thu, 21 May 1998 16:51:43 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.ncsa.uiuc.edu (mx1.ncsa.uiuc.edu [141.142.3.15]) by ex1.ncsa.uiuc.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id SAA09621; Thu, 21 May 1998 18:55:26 -0500 (CDT) Received: from ferret.ncsa.uiuc.edu (ferret.ncsa.uiuc.edu [141.142.21.119]) by mx1.ncsa.uiuc.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id SAA26415; Thu, 21 May 1998 18:55:26 -0500 (CDT) Received: (from lindsey@localhost) by ferret.ncsa.uiuc.edu (8.9.0/8.8.5) id SAA09442; Thu, 21 May 1998 18:55:19 -0500 From: Christopher Lindsey Message-Id: <199805212355.SAA09442@ferret.ncsa.uiuc.edu> Subject: Re: FINDMAIL.COM To: lazlo@swcp.com (Lazlo Nibble) Date: Thu, 21 May 1998 18:55:19 -0500 (CDT) Cc: majordomo-users@GreatCircle.COM In-Reply-To: <19980521165309.A16965@swcp.com> from "Lazlo Nibble" at May 21, 98 04:53:09 pm Content-Type: text Content-MD5: LS5k/a3m92AqUHq004GdWgAA Content-MD5-Origin: ferret.ncsa.uiuc.edu Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk > Good luck. I've been over this with them a number of times; they insist that > the address they use to subscribe to the lists they archive > (listsaver-of-listname@findmail.com, I think) counts as sufficient > notification to the list owner. I've passed along (with permission) the last > message I got from their lead apologist. > > FYI, they are currently archiving all the public lists at greatcircle as well. There's a big difference between a single list subscription and total redistribution to an undisclosed number of users. That's a blatant copyright violation, and any Internet lawyer will back you up. Each list that I maintain says in the .info file that users posting messages retain all rights to whatever copyrights they may hold. I suggest adding something like this. If findmail.com ever tries archiving our lists, they'll find themselves slapped with a class action suit on behalf of the list subscribers faster than they can say 'unsubscribe.' But just to be on the safe side, I'm blocking findmail.com from all SMTP transactions. :) Chris From majordomo-users-owner Sat May 30 00:31:16 1998 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-970926-1) id XAA12664; Fri, 29 May 1998 23:22:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: (mcb@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-980202-1) id XAA12654 for majordomo-users@greatcircle.com; Fri, 29 May 1998 23:22:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: from Kitten.mcs.com (Kitten.mcs.com [192.160.127.90]) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-980202-1) with ESMTP id VAA20404 for ; Wed, 27 May 1998 21:05:06 -0700 (PDT) Received: from uucphost.mcs.net (Uucp1.mcs.net [192.160.127.93]) by Kitten.mcs.com (8.8.7/8.8.2) with ESMTP id XAA16958; Wed, 27 May 1998 23:05:27 -0500 (CDT) Received: (from uucp@localhost) by uucphost.mcs.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id XAA02977; Wed, 27 May 1998 23:05:25 -0500 (CDT) Received: from david (david [10.168.100.1]) by midrange.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id WAA08178; Wed, 27 May 1998 22:51:56 -0500 Message-Id: <199805280351.WAA08178@midrange.com> X-Sender: david@midrange X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.0.1 Date: Wed, 27 May 1998 22:47:56 -0500 To: Justin Sheehy From: David Gibbs Subject: Re: FINDMAIL.COM Cc: majordomo-users@GreatCircle.COM In-Reply-To: References: <199805201856.OAA13073@pony-2.mail.digex.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk At 01:12 PM 5/27/98 , Justin Sheehy wrote: >They unsubbed and said that to prevent them from "accidentally" >subbing again, we should put the phrase "private list" or "restricted >list" in the info file for that list. >I don't think that this is the right approach, but it was done anyway. >Last week, they resubscribed. Well, they won't be able to resubscribe to my lists... I digitized a pipe bomb and emailed it to their system... it should be arriving any day now :) Seriously, I've employed a patch I created recently to ignore certian addresses.. any address that has the word FINDMAIL in it will be ignored. Anyone wants a copy of the patch, email me privately or check the mj-users archive. I posted it in the last 30 days or so. david -- | Internet: david@midrange.com | WWW: http://www.mcs.net/~gibbs | | ... A man can move mountains, a world can be turned, | and the greatest of distances easily spanned, | When the strength that's invested in making a fist | is transformed into shaking a hand. | | - DMRoth | | Fight Spam! Join CAUCE! == http://www.cauce.org/ From majordomo-users-owner Sat May 30 00:41:27 1998 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-970926-1) id XAA12765; Fri, 29 May 1998 23:25:23 -0700 (PDT) Received: (mcb@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-980202-1) id XAA12753 for majordomo-users@greatcircle.com; Fri, 29 May 1998 23:25:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: from cwmarsmail.cwmars.org ([208.133.228.3]) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-980202-1) with SMTP id KAA13415 for ; Thu, 28 May 1998 10:46:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: from MATT.CWMARS.ORG by cwmarsmail.cwmars.org (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id NAA18598; Thu, 28 May 1998 13:41:01 -0400 Message-Id: <199805281741.NAA18598@cwmarsmail.cwmars.org> Comments: Authenticated sender is From: "Matthew Noponen" To: Majordomo-Users@greatcircle.com Date: Thu, 28 May 1998 13:49:07 +0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Subject: Moderated Mailing List X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Win32 (v2.54) Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk Hello all :-) I know this question probably was answered a million times already but i've searched every FAQ ,etc for it and i've tried everything i can imagine but i can not get the list to be moderated. I can get the subscribe / unsubscribe to be sent to the moderator but not any message sent directly to the list. I even tried restricting the post but that doesn't even work. I have a solaris unix , and using majordomo ver 1.94.4 my perl version is 5.003 here are my settings: Aliases file: listname::include:/my directory/majordomo/lists/listname listname-owner:my name@my site owner-listname:my name@my site ecat-approval:my name@my site ecat-request:"|/my directory/majordomo/wrapper request-answer listname" listname.config: admin_passwd = password administrivia = yes advertise << END END announcements = yes approve_passwd = listname.pass archive_dir = comments << END END date_info = yes date_intro = yes debug = no description = digest_archive = digest_issue = 1 digest_maxdays = digest_maxlines = digest_name = ecat digest_rm_footer = digest_rm_footer = digest_rm_fronter = digest_volume = 1 digest_work_dir =. get_access = list get_access = list index_access = list info_access = list intro_access = list maxlength = 40000 message_footer << END END message_fronter << END END message_headers << END END moderate = yes moderator = owner-listname mungedomain = no noadvertise << END noadvertise << END END precedence = bulk purge_received = no reply_to = resend_host = # for resend. resend_host = restrict_post = sender = owner-ecat strip = yes subject_prefix = subscribe_policy = closed taboo_body << END END taboo_headers << END END unsubscribe_policy = open welcome = yes which_access = list who_access = list any help would be appreciated Matthew Noponen Systems and Networking Technical Specialist C/W MARS inc. 1 Sunset Ln. Paxton MA. 01612 (508)755-3323 x 26 From majordomo-users-owner Sat May 30 05:26:37 1998 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-970926-1) id FAA25807; Sat, 30 May 1998 05:13:49 -0700 (PDT) Received: from atle.abc.se (atle.abc.se [192.36.170.16]) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-980202-1) with ESMTP id FAA25800 for ; Sat, 30 May 1998 05:13:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (m8698@localhost) by atle.abc.se (8.8.8+Sun/8.8.8) with SMTP id OAA02270; Sat, 30 May 1998 14:14:28 +0200 (MET DST) X-Authentication-Warning: atle.abc.se: m8698 owned process doing -bs Date: Sat, 30 May 1998 13:14:28 +0100 (MET) From: Mats Dufberg X-Sender: m8698@atle To: Timothy J Luoma cc: majordomo-users@GreatCircle.COM Subject: Re: Where is the UID stored? In-Reply-To: <199805240922.FAA05530@luomat.peak.org> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk On Sun, 24 May 1998, Timothy J Luoma wrote: > However, majordomo insisted on keeping its previous UID, and I could not > figure out where it remembered it... I even went so far as to fgrep for the > old UID (106) and still couldn't find it. > > Can anyone tell me where this is stored? It seems silly to have to > recompile it to change the UID... perhaps this is some safety measure I > do no understand.... You'll have to recompile wrapper with the right settings. The UID is stored there. ----------------------------------------------------------------- Mats Dufberg Mats.Dufberg@abc.se From majordomo-users-owner Sat May 30 05:41:24 1998 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-970926-1) id FAA25895; Sat, 30 May 1998 05:21:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: from atle.abc.se (atle.abc.se [192.36.170.16]) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-980202-1) with ESMTP id FAA25888 for ; Sat, 30 May 1998 05:21:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (m8698@localhost) by atle.abc.se (8.8.8+Sun/8.8.8) with SMTP id OAA02301; Sat, 30 May 1998 14:16:45 +0200 (MET DST) X-Authentication-Warning: atle.abc.se: m8698 owned process doing -bs Date: Sat, 30 May 1998 13:16:45 +0100 (MET) From: Mats Dufberg X-Sender: m8698@atle To: Olof Rymark cc: Majordomo-Users@GreatCircle.COM Subject: Re: Abort, chown (a classic problem ?) In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk On Fri, 22 May 1998, Olof Rymark wrote: > MAJORDOMO ABORT (mj_majordomo)!! > > chown(1013, 1013, "/usr/local/major/lists/webmaster.new"): Operation not > permitted > --- > FYI: (1013, 1013) = (major, major) is the majordomo user. > > Possible errors: > > Wrapper permissions, here they are: > > -rwsr-xr-x 1 root major 17151 Mar 16 21:53 wrapper* Make sure that all files and directories are owned by major (and wrapper by root): chown -R major /usr/local/major chown root /usr/local/major/wrapper ----------------------------------------------------------------- Mats Dufberg Mats.Dufberg@abc.se From majordomo-users-owner Sat May 30 05:50:41 1998 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-970926-1) id FAA25909; Sat, 30 May 1998 05:22:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: from atle.abc.se (atle.abc.se [192.36.170.16]) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-980202-1) with ESMTP id FAA25902 for ; Sat, 30 May 1998 05:21:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (m8698@localhost) by atle.abc.se (8.8.8+Sun/8.8.8) with SMTP id OAA02323; Sat, 30 May 1998 14:22:45 +0200 (MET DST) X-Authentication-Warning: atle.abc.se: m8698 owned process doing -bs Date: Sat, 30 May 1998 13:22:45 +0100 (MET) From: Mats Dufberg X-Sender: m8698@atle To: Matthew Noponen cc: Majordomo-Users@GreatCircle.COM Subject: Re: Moderated Mailing List In-Reply-To: <199805281741.NAA18598@cwmarsmail.cwmars.org> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk On Thu, 28 May 1998, Matthew Noponen wrote: > listname::include:/my directory/majordomo/lists/listname > listname-owner:my name@my site > owner-listname:my name@my site > ecat-approval:my name@my site > ecat-request:"|/my directory/majordomo/wrapper request-answer > listname" (...) > moderate = yes The moderate setting in listname.config have no effect if you don't use "resend" for your list: listname: "|/my directory/majordomo/wrapper resend -l listname listname-ut" listname-ut: :include:/my directory/majordomo/lists/listname ----------------------------------------------------------------- Mats Dufberg Mats.Dufberg@abc.se From majordomo-users-owner Sat May 30 17:20:59 1998 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-970926-1) id RAA02914; Sat, 30 May 1998 17:04:48 -0700 (PDT) Received: (mcb@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-980202-1) id RAA02904 for majordomo-users@greatcircle.com; Sat, 30 May 1998 17:04:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: from norquay.tor.shaw.wave.ca (mail.tor.shaw.wave.ca [24.64.63.48]) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-980202-1) with ESMTP id JAA02358 for ; Fri, 29 May 1998 09:29:54 -0700 (PDT) Received: from iname.com ([24.64.144.206]) by norquay.tor.shaw.wave.ca (Netscape Messaging Server 3.0) with ESMTP id AAA18662 for ; Fri, 29 May 1998 12:31:22 -0400 Message-ID: <356EE244.335C460E@iname.com> Date: Fri, 29 May 1998 12:28:52 -0400 From: Nabil Rehman X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Majordomo-Users@GreatCircle.COM Subject: handling bounced messages with netscape messenger Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk Hi. I've recently been made a maintainer of a list. I am using Netscape Messenger. When I get a bounced message, I select File|Edit, add the of the header lines of the bounced message exceed my line wrapping limit (usually the Received: headers do). I usually just erase these header lines. I'm wondering if there's been an enhancement to Majordomo made that will let me forward the bounced message (instead of editing it). With Netscape Messenger, the forwarded message is contained in an attachment. I could add the Approved: line to my message, and Majordomo would extract the attached message and pass it on through. Can anyone help me with this; I'd really appreciate it. Please CC replies directly to me, I'm not on the list. Thanks, Nabil. From majordomo-users-owner Sat May 30 17:26:24 1998 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-970926-1) id RAA03025; Sat, 30 May 1998 17:06:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: (mcb@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-980202-1) id RAA03015 for majordomo-users@greatcircle.com; Sat, 30 May 1998 17:06:06 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ultra2.aber.ac.uk (ultra2.aber.ac.uk [144.124.16.18]) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-980202-1) with SMTP id AAA16691 for ; Sat, 30 May 1998 00:19:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: from osfb.aber.ac.uk [144.124.16.22] (root) by ultra2.aber.ac.uk with smtp (Exim 1.80 #1) id 0yffvv-00077E-00; Sat, 30 May 1998 08:20:03 +0100 Received: from pcihhh.ott.aber.ac.uk by osfb.aber.ac.uk (5.65v4.0/aberclient-4.0) id AA17577; Sat, 30 May 1998 08:20:01 +0100 X-Sender: pjg7@pop3.demon.co.uk Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <356F5D35.71396D69@sdl.usu.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Reply-To: pjg7@aber.ac.uk Date: Sat, 30 May 1998 08:20:30 +0100 To: Jeff Salisbury , majordomo-users@greatcircle.com From: Peter Gradwell Subject: Re: Attachment Filter Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk At 7:13 pm -0600 on 29/5/98, the great Jeff Salisbury wrote: > >Lazlo, > >I'm familiar with using the taboo features, but how do you automatically >forward >the BOUNCE message to the user? Are you doing it directoy with >majordomo? Or, have >you set up a filter in your personal email tool? > I send all my list owner mail to a special user, filter it with procmail to differentiate out the delivery bounces, the content bounces, the approve requests and then I run varying perl scripts on it, either to unsubscribe them (in the case of a delivery failure), tell them their message has a content problem,or just to email it to me for everything else. Peter. -- peter at gradwell dot com mailto:peter@gradwell.com online @ http://www.gradwell.nu/ "To look back all the time is boring. Excitement lies in tomorrow" ...have you seen www.aber.nu? - It'll be a "nu" aber web site. From majordomo-users-owner Sat May 30 17:26:31 1998 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-970926-1) id RAA02991; Sat, 30 May 1998 17:05:37 -0700 (PDT) Received: (mcb@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-980202-1) id RAA02982 for majordomo-users@greatcircle.com; Sat, 30 May 1998 17:05:35 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail.xmission.com (mail.xmission.com [198.60.22.22]) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-980202-1) with SMTP id VAA10926 for ; Fri, 29 May 1998 21:32:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: from (sdl.usu.edu) [166.70.3.216] by mail.xmission.com with esmtp (Exim 1.82 #2) id 0yfdKI-0007KP-00; Fri, 29 May 1998 22:33:02 -0600 Message-ID: <356F8BF7.D468A9C5@sdl.usu.edu> Date: Fri, 29 May 1998 22:32:55 -0600 From: Jeff Salisbury Organization: Space Dynamics Lab X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.05 [en] (Win95; U) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Majordomo-Users@GreatCircle.COM Subject: subscribe requests being filtered... Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk Everyone, Recently, I got smart and setup a "bounces" list to handle bouncing emails for my multiple domo lists. I'm using the "bounce" script that comes with the Majordomo distribution. This script makes an entry into the subscriber list like: jeff.salisbury@sdl.usu.edu (980528 canslim) where the email address is the first entry, with everything following being a comment. Here is the problem I'm running into: Often times I have the same person subscribed to more than one of my lists. When I bounce the same person off of two lists, I want to end up with two entries in the bounces subscribe list: jeff.salisbury@sdl.usu.edu (980528 canslim) jeff.salisbury@sdl.usu.edu (980528 persfin) However, when I try to subscribe the person the 2nd time with a different comment, majordomo prevents the subscription and complains with the message: **** Address already subscribed to bounces Apparently, majordomo does not include the comment portion during its check for a redundant subscriber. Does anyone know of a way to configure my list via the config file to make majordomo include the comment in its redundant subscriber check? Regards, Jeff From majordomo-users-owner Sat May 30 17:33:15 1998 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-970926-1) id RAA02958; Sat, 30 May 1998 17:05:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: (mcb@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-980202-1) id RAA02948 for majordomo-users@greatcircle.com; Sat, 30 May 1998 17:05:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nanguo.chalmers.com.au (gateway.chalmers.com.au [203.1.96.1]) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-980202-1) with ESMTP id RAA07965 for ; Fri, 29 May 1998 17:12:17 -0700 (PDT) Received: from chalmers.com.au (carbon.chalmers.com.au [203.1.96.26]) by nanguo.chalmers.com.au (8.8.8/8.8.7) with ESMTP id KAA10165 for ; Sat, 30 May 1998 10:12:24 +1000 (EST) Message-ID: <356F510F.17A5B2F1@chalmers.com.au> Date: Sat, 30 May 1998 10:21:35 +1000 From: Robert Chalmers Reply-To: robert@chalmers.com.au Organization: chalmers.com.au X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "majordomo-users@GreatCircle.COM" Subject: Help.Suddenly developing errors in aliases??? Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk Everything has been fine, up to now. Suddenly, I get theseerrorsevery time I try to send to a list? sendmail 8.8 and majordomo 1.94 does anyone have any ideas please? thanks Robert The original message was received at Sat, 30 May 1998 10:05:11 +1000 (EST) from root@localhost ----- The following addresses had permanent fatal errors ----- "|/usr/local/majordomo/wrapper resend -l tourism -h chalmers.com.au tourism-outgoing" (expanded from: tourism) ----- Transcript of session follows ----- /usr/local/majordomo/wrapper: not found 554 "|/usr/local/majordomo/wrapper resend -l tourism -h chalmers.com.au tourism-outgoing"... unknown mailer error 2 Message delivered to mailing list owner-tourism Reporting-MTA: dns; nanguo.chalmers.com.au Arrival-Date: Sat, 30 May 1998 10:05:11 +1000 (EST) Final-Recipient: RFC822; tourism@nanguo.chalmers.com.au X-Actual-Recipient: RFC822; |/usr/local/majordomo/wrapper resend -l tourism -h chalmers.com.au tourism-outgoing@nanguo.chalmers.com.au Action: failed Status: 5.0.0 Last-Attempt-Date: Sat, 30 May 1998 10:05:11 +1000 (EST) Subject: test Date: Sat, 30 May 1998 10:05:11 +1000 (EST) From: Charlie Root To: tourism test -- Support Whirled Peas. http://www.chalmers.com.au robert@chalmers.com.au China House - Bookshop From majordomo-users-owner Sun May 31 02:41:28 1998 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-970926-1) id CAA10903; Sun, 31 May 1998 02:27:49 -0700 (PDT) Received: from atle.abc.se (atle.abc.se [192.36.170.16]) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-980202-1) with ESMTP id CAA10896 for ; Sun, 31 May 1998 02:27:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (m8698@localhost) by atle.abc.se (8.8.8+Sun/8.8.8) with SMTP id LAA16187; Sun, 31 May 1998 11:28:13 +0200 (MET DST) X-Authentication-Warning: atle.abc.se: m8698 owned process doing -bs Date: Sun, 31 May 1998 10:28:13 +0100 (MET) From: Mats Dufberg X-Sender: m8698@atle To: Robert Chalmers cc: "majordomo-users@GreatCircle.COM" Subject: Re: Help.Suddenly developing errors in aliases??? In-Reply-To: <356F510F.17A5B2F1@chalmers.com.au> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk On Sat, 30 May 1998, Robert Chalmers wrote: > /usr/local/majordomo/wrapper: not found > 554 "|/usr/local/majordomo/wrapper resend -l tourism -h chalmers.com.au > tourism-outgoing"... unknown mailer error 2 > Message delivered to mailing list owner-tourism Something has happened to wrapper. Sendmail says it isn't there. Try ls -l /usr/local/majordomo/wrapper Is it really there and executable by all? ----------------------------------------------------------------- Mats Dufberg Mats.Dufberg@abc.se From majordomo-users-owner Sun May 31 12:11:24 1998 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-970926-1) id MAA18153; Sun, 31 May 1998 12:11:17 -0700 (PDT) Received: from boofura.swcp.com (boofura.swcp.com [198.59.115.28]) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-980202-1) with ESMTP id MAA18146 for ; Sun, 31 May 1998 12:11:10 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from lazlo@localhost) by boofura.swcp.com (8.8.5/8.8.0) id NAA04730; Sun, 31 May 1998 13:12:14 -0600 (MDT) Message-ID: <19980531131213.A4698@swcp.com> Date: Sun, 31 May 1998 13:12:13 -0600 From: Lazlo Nibble To: majordomo-users@GreatCircle.COM Subject: Re: Attachment Filter Mail-Followup-To: majordomo-users@GreatCircle.COM References: <356F5D35.71396D69@sdl.usu.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.91.1i In-Reply-To: <356F5D35.71396D69@sdl.usu.edu>; from Jeff Salisbury on Fri, May 29, 1998 at 07:13:26PM -0600 Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk On Fri, May 29, 1998 at 07:13:26PM -0600, Jeff Salisbury wrote: >> I have /^Content-Type: / in my lists' taboo_body settings and automatically >> forward the BOUNCE messages that result back to the users with a polite >> explanation why. No complaints yet. > > I'm familiar with using the taboo features, but how do you automatically > forward > the BOUNCE message to the user? Are you doing it directoy with > majordomo? Or, have > you set up a filter in your personal email tool? I've written a standalone script that mails these kinds of messages back to people. -- ::: Lazlo (lazlo@swcp.com; http://www.swcp.com/lazlo) ::: Internet Music Wantlists: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo/Wantlists From majordomo-users-owner Sun May 31 13:11:34 1998 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-970926-1) id NAA18791; Sun, 31 May 1998 13:02:58 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lahackers.org (wopr.lahackers.org [165.113.174.50]) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-980202-1) with ESMTP id NAA18784 for ; Sun, 31 May 1998 13:02:49 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (feedle@localhost) by lahackers.org (8.8.8/8.7.2) with SMTP id MAA32349; Sun, 31 May 1998 12:04:14 -0700 Date: Sun, 31 May 1998 12:04:13 -0700 (PDT) From: "Prof. Feedlebom" To: Leslie Mikesell cc: majordomo-users@GreatCircle.COM Subject: Re: FINDMAIL.COM In-Reply-To: <199805302015.PAA13489@Jupiter.Mcs.Net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk > I think everyone is missing the point here. I would MUCH prefer to > be able to browse a searchable archive site than to have thousands > of messages dumped in my own mailbox. First off, Majordomo has an "archive" feature, and many mailing lists (like my own) are producing web-browsable archives based on those archives. The problem with findmail that a lot of people see on here (myself included) is that mailing lists are often want or desire privacy of their traffic, at least only to those who are actively participating in the discussion. A handful of mailing lists I host have this requirement... they don't want a bunch of non-active participants. In addition, there are copyright issues involved, as well. I won't beat these issues up here, but I can see somebody in the future suing (and winning) FINDMAIL over unauthorised storage of copyrighted data (E-Mail messages are inherently copyrighted to the sender)... > However Findmail doesn't > do a very good job of it and most lists these days won't accept messages > unless the sender is a subscriber. This is intentional. First off, we have the issue involving spam. Spammers will commonly send commercial-content messages from one-shot accounts to mailing lists. By requiring a person to be a subscriber, and using Majordomo's E-Mail verification feature, a listowner can ensure that all E-mail addresses on the list are (at least) not spammers. Secondarily, there are other reasons why some lists may not accept messages from non-subscribers, that may be related to the FINDMAIL issue. I run a number of lists on my servers where the attitude of both the administrative persons and the body of the list are not compatible with lurkers. Their reasons for this are many. However, this is part of the reason why FINDMAIL is an issue, and why they do not accept messages unless the sender is a subscriber. If I may rant a little here, I think you are missing the point of mailing lists. Mailing lists are not meant (IMHO) to be a part-for-part replacement of UseNet. As a matter of fact, one of the best parts of many mailing lists is the intimate feeling of a small, highly targetted discussion group, inhabited by people who care about a particular topic. It sounds like you want Majordomo to replace CNEWS. Unless I'm missing my mark, this was not only outside the design specifications of the 'domo, but also of the entire concept of a mailing list. In this regard, FINDMAIL's services are not only redundant (because many lists have their _own_ archives, thank you very much), but even undesirable. > We need to solve these problems > so the list owner can do it right himself using the normal list > management software. Then there won't be any reason for someone > else to do it badly. The tools are here. Check out packages like lwgate (see the Majordomo-FAQ). And we don't need to solve these 'problems'. They've already been solved, it's called UseNet. -Faedl. From majordomo-users-owner Sun May 31 20:56:33 1998 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-970926-1) id UAA23023; Sun, 31 May 1998 20:42:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: from cyberman.infiniteworlds.dyn.ml.org (port53.annex4.radix.net [209.48.225.181]) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-980202-1) with ESMTP id UAA23016 for ; Sun, 31 May 1998 20:42:37 -0700 (PDT) Received: from infiniteworlds.dyn.ml.org (jmkeller@cyberman.infiniteworlds.dyn.ml.org [192.168.10.1]) by cyberman.infiniteworlds.dyn.ml.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id XAA01418 for ; Sun, 31 May 1998 23:48:39 -0400 Message-ID: <35722496.C0A2C7BA@infiniteworlds.dyn.ml.org> Date: Sun, 31 May 1998 23:48:38 -0400 From: James Michael Keller Reply-To: jmkeller@radix.net Organization: Infinite Worlds X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (X11; I; Linux 2.0.32 i586) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: majodomo-users Subject: Malformed Headers... Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk Majordomo is creating a TO: header with the list's address, but the replay-to: is the origional sender. Under pine, this correctly replies to the list, under netscape it replies to the origional sender to the list by default. Any way to make majordomo export reply-to: as well? -- ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- James Michael Keller | jmkeller@radix.net or jkeller2@gmu.edu (c)1998 All rights reserved | http://www.radix.net/~jmkeller -------------------------------------------------------------------------------