From majordomo-users-owner Thu Feb 1 04:21:23 2001 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-980720-1) id EAA20140; Thu, 1 Feb 2001 04:07:18 -0800 (PST) Received: from interlap.com.ar (unknown [196.32.67.132]) by honor.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 45AC017EB0 for ; Thu, 1 Feb 2001 04:07:09 -0800 (PST) Received: from usraudq12m2.datamarkets.com.ar ([200.32.27.56] helo=desarrollo.interlap.com.ar) by interlap.com.ar with esmtp (Exim 3.16 #1 (Linux)) id 14OIXQ-0006R2-00 for ; Thu, 01 Feb 2001 09:08:36 -0300 Message-Id: <4.3.2.7.2.20010201085914.00b068d0@pop3.interlap.com.ar> X-Sender: especiales@pop3.interlap.com.ar X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 4.3.2 Date: Thu, 01 Feb 2001 09:05:55 -0300 To: majordomo-users@GreatCircle.COM From: "Ricardo M. Morales" Subject: Re: virtual majordomo (was Re: AUTH) In-Reply-To: <3A781D46.2EE1E67A@bestdist.com> References: <3A723968.99B2F5F2@nextmedia-i.com> <3A725F9F.DEFD6593@mrball.net> <4.3.2.7.2.20010128120922.00aefbb0@pop3.interlap.com.ar> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk hi, tks for your answer, sorry about my english :-/ i want configure "differents" (unequals) texts for each domain, i say text to "help" and "auth" messages, how i can do it ? my problem is: some domains host lists in english and another host lists in spanish, i want all messages from server on each languaje.- tks ind advance 4 all :-) ----- At 31/01/01 11:12 a.m. Wednesday, Sean Porterfield wrote: >If I understand you correctly, you want multiple lists on multiple >domains on one physical server? Yes, majordomo can do this. > > can majordomo work with several texts ? on multiple domain services > > (virtual domains), so each domain, and more, each elist hosted by each From majordomo-users-owner Thu Feb 1 04:35:41 2001 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-980720-1) id EAA20151; Thu, 1 Feb 2001 04:09:59 -0800 (PST) Received: from interlap.com.ar (unknown [196.32.67.132]) by honor.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id CDB3B17EB0 for ; Thu, 1 Feb 2001 04:09:50 -0800 (PST) Received: from usraudq12m2.datamarkets.com.ar ([200.32.27.56] helo=desarrollo.interlap.com.ar) by interlap.com.ar with esmtp (Exim 3.16 #1 (Linux)) id 14OIa8-0006Tu-00 for ; Thu, 01 Feb 2001 09:11:23 -0300 Message-Id: <4.3.2.7.2.20010201090650.00b04320@pop3.interlap.com.ar> X-Sender: especiales@pop3.interlap.com.ar X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 4.3.2 Date: Thu, 01 Feb 2001 09:08:46 -0300 To: majordomo-users@GreatCircle.COM From: "Ricardo M. Morales" Subject: Re: virtual majordomo (was Re: AUTH) In-Reply-To: <3A786558.C19EE0B@netscape.com> References: <3A723968.99B2F5F2@nextmedia-i.com> <3A725F9F.DEFD6593@mrball.net> <4.3.2.7.2.20010128120922.00aefbb0@pop3.interlap.com.ar> <3A781D46.2EE1E67A@bestdist.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk Hi again: tks, i will resend this solution to maintainer of majordomo and another services on server i host one domain :-) At 31/01/01 04:19 p.m. Wednesday, Dan Liston wrote: >The real issue, is not just the virtual hosting, but the customizing of >the auth message sent to new subscribers when the list is open+confirm. >As long as the text being referred to is domain or address information, >I do not see a problem. On the other hand, if the auth message itself >is customized via edits to majordomo (the script), then there would be >a requirement for individual majordomos. Still not a problem, provided >they are renamed and can be kept track of well enough in the aliases files. From majordomo-users-owner Thu Feb 1 08:49:50 2001 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-980720-1) id IAA22907; Thu, 1 Feb 2001 08:40:56 -0800 (PST) Received: from sonny.org (unknown [205.217.137.8]) by honor.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id EF78E17EB0 for ; Thu, 1 Feb 2001 08:40:47 -0800 (PST) Received: from netscape.com (h-205-217-228-218.netscape.com [205.217.228.218]) by sonny.org (8.8.8/8.8.3) with ESMTP id KAA25653; Thu, 1 Feb 2001 10:40:31 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <3A799131.7937890C@netscape.com> Date: Thu, 01 Feb 2001 10:39:13 -0600 From: Dan Liston Organization: iPlanet E-Commerce Solutions, a Sun-Netscape Alliance X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.75 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Todd Lyons Cc: majordomo-users@GreatCircle.COM Subject: Re: Preventing mail loop References: <200101311835.f0VIZvh00797@arm.mrball.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk You could make list-owner another list. As such, you would control X-BeenThere again. Dan Liston Todd Lyons wrote: > > I happened to be online when a mail loop began. Using (example) testlist, > a bounce occurred to user todd@testdomain.com due to a full mailbox. > Unfortunately, this user is also in the alias for testlist-owner, which the > bounce goes to. So it begins a mail loop. > > I have this sort of loop taken care of in the regular list, but am unsure > where to start since this error message occurs before the regular (X- > BeenThere) Taboo header gets checked. I'm not looking for some step by > step explanation, just a pointer to the necessary files or documentation > and a word or two about what theory I'm supposed to be using to prevent > this. > > Blue skies... Cannonball http://www.mrball.net > * One ring to rule them all, One ring to find them * > * One ring to bring them all, and in the darkness bind them * > Sauron From majordomo-users-owner Thu Feb 1 09:05:44 2001 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-980720-1) id IAA23002; Thu, 1 Feb 2001 08:53:50 -0800 (PST) Received: from sonny.org (unknown [205.217.137.8]) by honor.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A0FB917EAF for ; Thu, 1 Feb 2001 08:53:44 -0800 (PST) Received: from netscape.com (h-205-217-228-218.netscape.com [205.217.228.218]) by sonny.org (8.8.8/8.8.3) with ESMTP id KAA25672; Thu, 1 Feb 2001 10:53:37 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <3A799444.F8F346D5@netscape.com> Date: Thu, 01 Feb 2001 10:52:20 -0600 From: Dan Liston Organization: iPlanet E-Commerce Solutions, a Sun-Netscape Alliance X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.75 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Ron Carson Cc: majordomo-users@GreatCircle.COM Subject: Re: Digest List References: <1431247642.20010131194705@OTnow.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk Set up the aliases, make sure files and directories exist with the right permissions, execute newaliases. There is no point in trying to create digests from the past, but creating archives from the past is possible if you or some other member of the list has an mbox format file of previous messages received. Dan Liston Ron Carson wrote: > > What is the procedure to set up a digest format of an existing list? > > Ron From majordomo-users-owner Thu Feb 1 09:19:49 2001 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-980720-1) id JAA23269; Thu, 1 Feb 2001 09:10:57 -0800 (PST) Received: from netscape.com (c3po.netscape.com [205.217.237.46]) by honor.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 44EAA17EAF for ; Thu, 1 Feb 2001 09:10:51 -0800 (PST) Received: from judge.mcom.com (judge.mcom.com [205.217.237.53]) by netscape.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with ESMTP id f11HAnG28158 for ; Thu, 1 Feb 2001 09:10:49 -0800 (PST) Received: from netscape.com ([205.217.228.218]) by judge.mcom.com (Netscape Messaging Server 4.15) with ESMTP id G8392001.I1Z; Thu, 1 Feb 2001 09:10:49 -0800 Message-ID: <3A79986D.1CC389F3@netscape.com> Date: Thu, 01 Feb 2001 11:10:05 -0600 From: dliston@netscape.com (Dan Liston) Organization: iPlanet E-Commerce Solutions, a Sun-Netscape Alliance X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.75 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Chris James , majordomo-users@greatcircle.com Subject: Re: testing email address References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk Do you realize how many thousands of list subscribers' time you just wasted? Next time you need to test a mailing list, please do so with REAL information. Those of us that monitor/support this list are busy enough reading real mail without having to wade through tests. Please do your testing on your own servers with subscriber lists you have control of. Dan Liston Chris James wrote: > > I have sent a post to this mailing group a couple of times and nothing has > gone through... > > I am testing to see if this works... > So if this goes through a list owner please approve.. and for the rest of > you please ignore. > > Thankyou > _________________________________________________________________________ > Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. From majordomo-users-owner Thu Feb 1 09:36:46 2001 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-980720-1) id JAA23126; Thu, 1 Feb 2001 09:02:14 -0800 (PST) Received: from netscape.com (r2d2.netscape.com [205.217.237.47]) by honor.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A0CD317EAF for ; Thu, 1 Feb 2001 09:02:08 -0800 (PST) Received: from judge.mcom.com (judge.mcom.com [205.217.237.53]) by netscape.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with ESMTP id f11H26b00147 for ; Thu, 1 Feb 2001 09:02:06 -0800 (PST) Received: from netscape.com ([205.217.228.218]) by judge.mcom.com (Netscape Messaging Server 4.15) with ESMTP id G838NH00.9ZF; Thu, 1 Feb 2001 09:02:05 -0800 Message-ID: <3A79965F.32F62D41@netscape.com> Date: Thu, 01 Feb 2001 11:01:19 -0600 From: dliston@netscape.com (Dan Liston) Organization: iPlanet E-Commerce Solutions, a Sun-Netscape Alliance X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.75 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Christopher James , majordomo-users@greatcircle.com Subject: Re: Sending 100,000 newsletters References: <3.0.32.20010201110121.01579180@imail.hitsquad.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk Wow! Your sig is a message by itself. That aside, I have to give my pat answer, no. Now, had you thrown in a requirement to complete the delivery before the next newsletter is released, there are too many "if"s to be able to answer that accurately. Would you use bulk_mailer to break down the recipients list by domains? Do you have a lot of CPU horsepower and broad bandwidth? Are any of your list subscribers on ISPs that block spam? Many times, limits of 15 (or some number) recipients are imposed to help fight spam. Are all 100,000 addresses deliverable? (won't bounce) These are just the tip of the iceberg. Dan Liston Christopher James wrote: > > Hey guys how are you all ? > > I am running Majordomo 1.94.5 and I only want to use it to send out > newsletters to subscribed users. It will not be an interactive mailing > group, only one user will be sending out mail once a week in the form of a > newsletter(myself). > > Do you think that Sendmail 8.9.3 would have a problem with sending 100,000 > newsletters ? > > Thanks in advance . > > Chris From majordomo-users-owner Thu Feb 1 12:35:21 2001 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-980720-1) id MAA25231; Thu, 1 Feb 2001 12:30:24 -0800 (PST) Received: from arm.mrball.net (mrball.net [209.85.130.137]) by honor.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8131917EAF for ; Thu, 1 Feb 2001 12:30:18 -0800 (PST) Received: from mrball.net (todd.mrball.net [192.168.18.3]) by arm.mrball.net (8.11.2/8.11.2) with ESMTP id f11KTph03231; Thu, 1 Feb 2001 12:29:51 -0800 Message-ID: <3A79C73E.8E0DAD27@mrball.net> Date: Thu, 01 Feb 2001 12:29:50 -0800 From: Todd Lyons X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (X11; U; Linux 2.2.14-zip i586) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Dan Liston Cc: majordomo-users@GreatCircle.COM Subject: Re: Preventing mail loop References: <200101311835.f0VIZvh00797@arm.mrball.net> <3A799131.7937890C@netscape.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk Dan Liston wrote: > > You could make list-owner another list. As such, you would control X-BeenThere > again. That seems to be about the only workable solution. I've been hashing (pun) things over while at work. I can't think of any other headers that I could filter on that wouldn't also be in a normal email. Maybe I could analyze the body and if the same [BOUNCE] message appeared twice in the body, that could cause it to silently drop, but then how do you know that messages are being dropped? How can you with 100% certainty tell that it's not dropping legitimate messages. Once again, your suggestion sounds so much simpler that it embarrasses my brain cell to have even considered anything else. -- Blue skies... Todd | Get a bigger hammer! | Proponents of MIME in general e-mail | | http://www.mrball.net | can go multipart/encrypt themselves. | | http://faq.mrball.net | --Rick Moen | From majordomo-users-owner Thu Feb 1 15:37:11 2001 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-980720-1) id PAA27753; Thu, 1 Feb 2001 15:32:01 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail.lambesis.com (unknown [207.211.73.9]) by honor.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C9A8F17ED8 for ; Thu, 1 Feb 2001 15:31:50 -0800 (PST) Received: by mail.lambesis.com from localhost (router,SLMail V4.1); Thu, 01 Feb 2001 15:38:37 -0800 for Received: from [207.211.73.32] [207.211.73.32] by mail.lambesis.com [207.211.73.9] (SLmail 4.2.0.3439 (Tesca Nemerosa - Beta 2.2)) with ESMTP id 244EC31FCDE8497297EB7724C7D9AFE2 for plus 1 more; Thu, 01 Feb 2001 15:38:33 -0800 Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Sender: jpbuse@mail.lambesis.com Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <3A79986D.1CC389F3@netscape.com> References: <3A79986D.1CC389F3@netscape.com> Date: Thu, 1 Feb 2001 15:27:05 -0800 To: majordomo-users@greatcircle.com From: "Jason Buscema" Subject: HTML Encoded Email Cc: dliston@netscape.com (Dan Liston) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" X-SLUIDL: D9A6612F-36DB4B50-9C62A416-660661AB Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk I want to send an html encoded email to my list. Nothing fancy just a link. Thought it was possible. I am running majordomo-1.94.5-2. Am I missing something? -- ------------- Jason Buscema jbuscema@lambesis.com Lambesis, Inc. 858.794.6444 x245 From majordomo-users-owner Thu Feb 1 17:24:49 2001 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-980720-1) id RAA28815; Thu, 1 Feb 2001 17:08:24 -0800 (PST) Received: from [207.254.182.2] (unknown [207.254.182.2]) by honor.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with SMTP id E0EDB17EB0 for ; Thu, 1 Feb 2001 17:08:16 -0800 (PST) Received: from enterprise.taratec.com by [207.254.182.2] via smtpd (for honor.greatcircle.com [198.102.244.44]) with SMTP; 2 Feb 2001 01:08:17 UT Received: (private information removed) Reply-To: From: "Stu Miller" To: Subject: Looping thru resend? Date: Thu, 1 Feb 2001 20:01:40 -0500 Message-ID: <004701c08cb3$b4078440$e001a8c0@taratec.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook CWS, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk Hi, I have a strange error that I am hoping someone can help me with. I recently had a couple messages "get stuck" looping through the list several times (repeated about once every 15 minutes to an hour) until I killed sendmail. The odd part is that each loop added the message_fronter and message_footer s from the list.cf file (see inserted message below). It started with an FAQ which gets posted by a cron job but all messages after that seemed to loop as well. The mail queue was huge at the time this all started... Any one experienced anything similar? I am not the sys admin but I'll provide what I know about the system as background: majordomo 1.94.4 sendmail 8.x redhat 6.2 Any help appreciated. Thanks ------------------------- Example looped msg: ------------------------------- From lims-owner Thu Feb 1 11:33:19 2001 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lims.taratec.com (8.10.0.Beta6/8.10.0.Beta6) id f11GXJr04930 for lims-outgoing; Thu, 1 Feb 2001 11:33:19 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: lims.taratec.com: majordom set sender to owner-lims@lims.taratec.com using -f Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise Internet Agent 5.5.5.1 Date: Thu, 01 Feb 2001 09:02:01 -0500 From: "Gerst Gibbon" To: Subject: LIMSList- LIMS Short Course Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lims.taratec.com id f11GIBt04780 Sender: owner-lims@lims.taratec.com Precedence: bulk (Please share your responses; reply directly to lims@lims.taratec.com) (Please share your responses; reply directly to lims@lims.taratec.com) The American Chemical Society Short Course "LIMS: A Systematic Approach" will be taught March 3-4 in New Orleans, LA, in conjunction with PITTCON2001. Visit http://www.acs.org/education/professional/sccm03.html for a course description and to register for the course. ************************************************************************ To remove yourself from this mailing list, send mail to Majordomo@lims.taratec.com saying 'unsubscribe lims your_e-mail_address' in the body of your message (no quotes & substitute your real e-mail address, of course). To unsubscribe from the digest, substitute 'lims-digest' for 'lims' above. ************************************************************************ To remove yourself from this mailing list, send mail to Majordomo@lims.taratec.com saying 'unsubscribe lims your_e-mail_address' in the body of your message (no quotes & substitute your real e-mail address, of course). To unsubscribe from the digest, substitute 'lims-digest' for 'lims' above. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ~~ Regards, Stu -- Stu Miller | LIMS and Lab Automation | Taratec Development Corporation 908.725.8090 x146 | Bridgewater NJ, Conshohocken PA, Chicago IL 856.495.7541 (mobile) | www.taratec.com From majordomo-users-owner Thu Feb 1 17:40:01 2001 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-980720-1) id RAA29017; Thu, 1 Feb 2001 17:31:10 -0800 (PST) Received: from netscape.com (c3po.netscape.com [205.217.237.46]) by honor.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8895917EB0 for ; Thu, 1 Feb 2001 17:31:05 -0800 (PST) Received: from judge.mcom.com (judge.mcom.com [205.217.237.53]) by netscape.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with ESMTP id f121V3G00107 for ; Thu, 1 Feb 2001 17:31:03 -0800 (PST) Received: from netscape.com ([205.217.228.218]) by judge.mcom.com (Netscape Messaging Server 4.15) with ESMTP id G83W7R00.A8Z; Thu, 1 Feb 2001 17:31:03 -0800 Message-ID: <3A7A0DAC.AA89BFBE@netscape.com> Date: Thu, 01 Feb 2001 19:30:20 -0600 From: dliston@netscape.com (Dan Liston) Organization: iPlanet E-Commerce Solutions, a Sun-Netscape Alliance X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.75 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Ron Carson , Majordomo Users Subject: Re: Digest List References: <1431247642.20010131194705@OTnow.com> <3A799444.F8F346D5@netscape.com> <2521591178.20010201143219@OTnow.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk This is most likely your ISPs responsibility unless they have provided specific instructions to the contrary. They will probably charge extra too. Dan Liston Ron Carson wrote: > > Hello: > > I am obviously way behind the majordomo power curve. I understand very > little of what you've written. I am a majordomo user that has a > majordomo list through my ISP. Do your direction still apply? Is it the > ISP's responsibility to set up the digest or is this something I can do > on my end via FTP. > > FYI: I am awaiting delivery of a mailing list help book. > > Ron > > ------ > On 02/01/2001, Dan Liston Wrote: > DL> Set up the aliases, make sure files and directories exist with the right > DL> permissions, execute newaliases. There is no point in trying to create > DL> digests from the past, but creating archives from the past is possible if > DL> you or some other member of the list has an mbox format file of previous > DL> messages received. > > DL> Dan Liston > > DL> Ron Carson wrote: > >> > >> What is the procedure to set up a digest format of an existing list? > >> > >> Ron > > ----- From majordomo-users-owner Thu Feb 1 18:51:50 2001 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-980720-1) id SAA29681; Thu, 1 Feb 2001 18:39:07 -0800 (PST) Received: from netscape.com (c3po.netscape.com [205.217.237.46]) by honor.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id CC9C017EB0 for ; Thu, 1 Feb 2001 18:39:00 -0800 (PST) Received: from judge.mcom.com (judge.mcom.com [205.217.237.53]) by netscape.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with ESMTP id f122cvG14454 for ; Thu, 1 Feb 2001 18:38:58 -0800 (PST) Received: from netscape.com ([205.217.228.218]) by judge.mcom.com (Netscape Messaging Server 4.15) with ESMTP id G83ZCV02.TB8; Thu, 1 Feb 2001 18:38:55 -0800 Message-ID: <3A7A1D90.81743FE1@netscape.com> Date: Thu, 01 Feb 2001 20:38:08 -0600 From: dliston@netscape.com (Dan Liston) Organization: iPlanet E-Commerce Solutions, a Sun-Netscape Alliance X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.75 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "Sharon F." Cc: majordomo-users@GreatCircle.COM Subject: Re: References: <200101301751250730.04771495@smtp-server> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk Just curious, have you put in blocks for pandora.netralink.com, mail01a.rapidsite.net, and rodney@playing.co.za? If it was really a loop, I do not understand why postfix from 2 different domains would be returning the same message, and qmail from yet another (unannounced) domain. Is your list set with reply_to = ezine? This makes it really easy to get caught in a mail loop whenever a message bounces. Does your ezine.config use a message_headers that can also become a taboo_header? This helps prevent the above mail loops. Dan Liston "Sharon F." wrote: > > I think my list is stuck in a loop. Here's the header. We're getting resends of one email over and over. The footer is even multiplying list it would if it's a reply. > > I've been putting email blocks in right and left.. any ideas folks? > > Thanks! > Sharon > > Received: from family-connection.net ([216.122.160.133] EHLO family-connection.net ident: IDENT-NOT-QUERIED [port 45035]) by mail2.one.net with ESMTP id <68933-13822>; Tue, 30 Jan 2001 17:29:27 -0500 > Received: (from familyc@localhost) > by family-connection.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) id PAA07352 > for a11474609; Tue, 30 Jan 2001 15:39:45 -0500 (EST) > Received: (from familyc@localhost) > by family-connection.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) id PAA07347 > for a65234375; Tue, 30 Jan 2001 15:39:45 -0500 (EST) > Received: from mail01a.rapidsite.net (mail01a.rapidsite.net [207.158.192.230]) > by family-connection.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id PAA07342 > for ; Tue, 30 Jan 2001 15:39:42 -0500 (EST) > Received: (qmail 15276232 invoked by uid 0); 30 Jan 2001 20:38:38 -0000 > Received: from family-connection.net (216.122.160.133) > by mail01a.rapidsite.net (RS ver 1.0.58s) with SMTP id 014397316; > Mon, 29 Jan 2001 11:19:10 -0500 (EST) > Received: (from familyc@localhost) > by family-connection.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) id LAA08867 > for a66754150; Mon, 29 Jan 2001 11:10:20 -0500 (EST) > Received: (from familyc@localhost) > by family-connection.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) id LAA08368 > for a65234375; Mon, 29 Jan 2001 11:07:11 -0500 (EST) > Received: from pandora.netralink.com (pandora.netralink.com [196.15.143.146]) > by family-connection.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA08360 > for ; Mon, 29 Jan 2001 11:07:07 -0500 (EST) > Received: by pandora.netralink.com (Postfix, from userid 500) > id CB1E87FC2A; Mon, 29 Jan 2001 17:46:06 +0200 (SAST) > Received: from family-connection.net (family-connection.net [216.122.160.133]) > by pandora.netralink.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 917213BE5E > for ; Mon, 29 Jan 2001 17:41:17 +0200 (SAST) > Received: (from familyc@localhost) > by family-connection.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) id IAA08323 > for a77200317; Mon, 29 Jan 2001 08:29:49 -0500 (EST) > Received: (from familyc@localhost) > by family-connection.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) id IAA06031 > for a65234375; Mon, 29 Jan 2001 08:15:45 -0500 (EST) > Received: (from familyc@localhost) > by family-connection.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) id IAA06026; > Mon, 29 Jan 2001 08:15:44 -0500 (EST) From majordomo-users-owner Thu Feb 1 20:21:09 2001 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-980720-1) id UAA00668; Thu, 1 Feb 2001 20:07:03 -0800 (PST) Received: from netscape.com (c3po.netscape.com [205.217.237.46]) by honor.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2BEC917EB0 for ; Thu, 1 Feb 2001 20:06:57 -0800 (PST) Received: from judge.mcom.com (judge.mcom.com [205.217.237.53]) by netscape.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with ESMTP id f1246sG23430 for ; Thu, 1 Feb 2001 20:06:54 -0800 (PST) Received: from netscape.com ([205.217.228.218]) by judge.mcom.com (Netscape Messaging Server 4.15) with ESMTP id G843FJ00.5AM; Thu, 1 Feb 2001 20:06:55 -0800 Message-ID: <3A7A3234.66D049C5@netscape.com> Date: Thu, 01 Feb 2001 22:06:12 -0600 From: dliston@netscape.com (Dan Liston) Organization: iPlanet E-Commerce Solutions, a Sun-Netscape Alliance X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.75 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Todd Lyons Cc: majordomo-users@GreatCircle.COM Subject: Re: Preventing mail loop References: <200101311835.f0VIZvh00797@arm.mrball.net> <3A799131.7937890C@netscape.com> <3A79C73E.8E0DAD27@mrball.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk Todd Lyons wrote: > > Dan Liston wrote: > > > > You could make list-owner another list. As such, you would control X-BeenThere > > again. > > That seems to be about the only workable solution. [snip] I am a firm believer in KISS. (and I hate reinventing wheels) Dan From majordomo-users-owner Thu Feb 1 20:34:53 2001 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-980720-1) id UAA00828; Thu, 1 Feb 2001 20:25:10 -0800 (PST) Received: from netscape.com (c3po.netscape.com [205.217.237.46]) by honor.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3C60917EB0 for ; Thu, 1 Feb 2001 20:25:04 -0800 (PST) Received: from judge.mcom.com (judge.mcom.com [205.217.237.53]) by netscape.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with ESMTP id f124P1G24946 for ; Thu, 1 Feb 2001 20:25:02 -0800 (PST) Received: from netscape.com ([205.217.228.218]) by judge.mcom.com (Netscape Messaging Server 4.15) with ESMTP id G8449Q02.0B8; Thu, 1 Feb 2001 20:25:02 -0800 Message-ID: <3A7A3673.ADD9CF2E@netscape.com> Date: Thu, 01 Feb 2001 22:24:19 -0600 From: dliston@netscape.com (Dan Liston) Organization: iPlanet E-Commerce Solutions, a Sun-Netscape Alliance X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.75 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Jason Buscema Cc: majordomo-users@greatcircle.com Subject: Re: HTML Encoded Email References: <3A79986D.1CC389F3@netscape.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk If you are adding a fronter or footer to messages via your list.config file, mime encoded messages will not work. On the other hand, something like a URL in a plain text message will always work (when viewed with an HTML enabled MUA). For example, I embed URL links in messages through this list all the time. http://scifi.squawk.com/demime.html Dan Liston Jason Buscema wrote: > > I want to send an html encoded email to my list. Nothing fancy just a > link. Thought it was possible. I am running majordomo-1.94.5-2. Am I > missing something? > -- > ------------- > Jason Buscema > jbuscema@lambesis.com > > Lambesis, Inc. > 858.794.6444 x245 From majordomo-users-owner Thu Feb 1 21:05:07 2001 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-980720-1) id VAA01255; Thu, 1 Feb 2001 21:00:18 -0800 (PST) Received: from grover.martin-wolfe.com (rfx-64-6-208-201.users.reflexcom.com [64.6.208.201]) by honor.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7300A17EB0 for ; Thu, 1 Feb 2001 21:00:09 -0800 (PST) Received: from bert (rfx-64-6-216-62.users.reflexcom.com [64.6.216.62]) by grover.martin-wolfe.com (8.10.1/8.10.1) with SMTP id f12CxEK08839 for ; Fri, 2 Feb 2001 04:59:14 -0800 Message-ID: <00c301c08cd4$cf109620$3ed80640@reflexnet.net> From: "Drew" To: Subject: Fw: Returned mail: see transcript for details Date: Thu, 1 Feb 2001 20:58:39 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_00C0_01C08C91.C0BAFB80" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_00C0_01C08C91.C0BAFB80 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit And this is what I get when I send a msg to the list. HELP!! =) -Drew latras@martin-wolfe.com ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mail Delivery Subsystem" To: Sent: Friday, February 02, 2001 4:56 AM Subject: Returned mail: see transcript for details > The original message was received at Fri, 2 Feb 2001 04:56:50 -0800 > from rfx-64-6-216-62.users.reflexcom.com [64.6.216.62] > > ----- The following addresses had permanent fatal errors ----- > "|/usr/local/majordomo/wrapper resend -l test1 test1-list" > (reason: service unavailable) > (expanded from: ) > > ----- Transcript of session follows ----- > Message delivered to mailing list > smrsh: wrapper not available for sendmail programs > 554 5.0.0 "|/usr/local/majordomo/wrapper resend -l test1 test1-list"... Service unavailable > ------=_NextPart_000_00C0_01C08C91.C0BAFB80 Content-Type: application/octet-stream; name="ATT00180.dat" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="ATT00180.dat" Reporting-MTA: dns; grover.martin-wolfe.com Received-From-MTA: DNS; rfx-64-6-216-62.users.reflexcom.com Arrival-Date: Fri, 2 Feb 2001 04:56:50 -0800 Final-Recipient: RFC822; test1@martin-wolfe.com X-Actual-Recipient: X-Unix; |/usr/local/majordomo/wrapper resend -l = test1 test1-list Action: failed Status: 5.5.0 Diagnostic-Code: X-Unix; 69 Last-Attempt-Date: Fri, 2 Feb 2001 04:56:50 -0800 ------=_NextPart_000_00C0_01C08C91.C0BAFB80 Content-Type: message/rfc822; name="ATT00184.eml" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="ATT00184.eml" Return-Path: Received: from bert (rfx-64-6-216-62.users.reflexcom.com [64.6.216.62]) by grover.martin-wolfe.com (8.10.1/8.10.1) with SMTP id f12CuoK08816 for ; Fri, 2 Feb 2001 04:56:50 -0800 Message-ID: <006801c08cd4$794b3060$3ed80640@reflexnet.net> From: "Drew" To: Subject: Date: Thu, 1 Feb 2001 20:56:15 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 Test 2/1 ------=_NextPart_000_00C0_01C08C91.C0BAFB80-- From majordomo-users-owner Thu Feb 1 21:19:56 2001 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-980720-1) id VAA01469; Thu, 1 Feb 2001 21:16:47 -0800 (PST) Received: from arm.mrball.net (mrball.net [209.85.130.137]) by honor.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id CA94417EB0 for ; Thu, 1 Feb 2001 21:16:41 -0800 (PST) Received: from mrball.net (todd.mrball.net [192.168.18.3]) by arm.mrball.net (8.11.2/8.11.2) with ESMTP id f125Gdh04150; Thu, 1 Feb 2001 21:16:39 -0800 Message-ID: <3A7A42B4.63FB55FD@mrball.net> Date: Thu, 01 Feb 2001 21:16:36 -0800 From: Todd Lyons X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (X11; U; Linux 2.2.14-zip i586) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: smiller@taratec.com Cc: majordomo-users@GreatCircle.COM Subject: Re: Looping thru resend? References: <004701c08cb3$b4078440$e001a8c0@taratec.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk Stu Miller wrote: > Received: (from majordom@localhost) > by lims.taratec.com (8.10.0.Beta6/8.10.0.Beta6) id f11GXJr04930 > for lims-outgoing; Thu, 1 Feb 2001 11:33:19 -0500 Did the next email in the loop have the same id number as the above line? > X-Authentication-Warning: lims.taratec.com: majordom set sender to > owner-lims@lims.taratec.com using -f You need to make majordom a trusted user for sendmail. Find the line in sendmail.cf that has: Troot then add Tmajordom > Message-Id: And on the looped message, is the message id the same as the above line? -- Blue skies... Todd | Get a bigger hammer! | Proponents of MIME in general e-mail | | http://www.mrball.net | can go multipart/encrypt themselves. | | http://faq.mrball.net | --Rick Moen | From majordomo-users-owner Thu Feb 1 21:36:04 2001 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-980720-1) id VAA01590; Thu, 1 Feb 2001 21:26:59 -0800 (PST) Received: from netscape.com (c3po.netscape.com [205.217.237.46]) by honor.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D5E9617EB0 for ; Thu, 1 Feb 2001 21:26:53 -0800 (PST) Received: from judge.mcom.com (judge.mcom.com [205.217.237.53]) by netscape.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with ESMTP id f125QpG29558 for ; Thu, 1 Feb 2001 21:26:51 -0800 (PST) Received: from netscape.com ([205.217.228.218]) by judge.mcom.com (Netscape Messaging Server 4.15) with ESMTP id G8474R01.JBH; Thu, 1 Feb 2001 21:26:51 -0800 Message-ID: <3A7A44F0.5ADB3BB1@netscape.com> Date: Thu, 01 Feb 2001 23:26:08 -0600 From: dliston@netscape.com (Dan Liston) Organization: iPlanet E-Commerce Solutions, a Sun-Netscape Alliance X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.75 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: bkberger@moorewebs.com Cc: majordomo-users@GreatCircle.COM Subject: Re: Multiple Owner- Moderator References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk Anyone with knowledge of the list password can approve a post. (even before it ever gets posted) All you have to do is put all three of your addresses on the alias for listname-approval. You will all 3 be notified of APPROVE messages, and have to take turns, or notify each other which of you will do the approval. Otherwise, you will be sending duplicate messages through your list. See list-owner-info file that comes with majordomo. Dan Liston "Rev. Brian K. Berger" wrote: > > Hello, I am porting to MD from Listproc and know there is a owner, > a moderator, and a maintainer here on MD, unlike the > owner-moderator on Listproc. There are three of us who used to > split the time moderating, making it 2/3 as easy. How do I set the > permissions now to allow each of us to be able to approve the > posts? We all used the same pw on Listproc and the pw is the same > here. From majordomo-users-owner Thu Feb 1 21:56:52 2001 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-980720-1) id VAA01529; Thu, 1 Feb 2001 21:20:35 -0800 (PST) Received: from netscape.com (r2d2.netscape.com [205.217.237.47]) by honor.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0548B17EB0 for ; Thu, 1 Feb 2001 21:20:27 -0800 (PST) Received: from judge.mcom.com (judge.mcom.com [205.217.237.53]) by netscape.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with ESMTP id f125KMb24413 for ; Thu, 1 Feb 2001 21:20:22 -0800 (PST) Received: from netscape.com ([205.217.228.218]) by judge.mcom.com (Netscape Messaging Server 4.15) with ESMTP id G846TY03.DBS; Thu, 1 Feb 2001 21:20:22 -0800 Message-ID: <3A7A436B.A2A2B56C@netscape.com> Date: Thu, 01 Feb 2001 23:19:39 -0600 From: dliston@netscape.com (Dan Liston) Organization: iPlanet E-Commerce Solutions, a Sun-Netscape Alliance X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.75 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: smiller@taratec.com Cc: majordomo-users@GreatCircle.COM Subject: Re: Looping thru resend? References: <004701c08cb3$b4078440$e001a8c0@taratec.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk I see from your message headers, the first two things you need to do immediately are; Add "Tmajordom" on a line by itself to the Trusted Users section of sendmail.cf and fix your lim: alias to include ",nobody" after lims-outgoing. Your list is being exposed by your headers. If someone wrote directly to lims-outgoing@lims... the message would go to all your subscribers unchecked by resend. Example; lims: "|/path-to/majordomo/wrapper resend -l lims lims-outgoing,nobody" Now about your loop. This is how I do it. In lims.config; message_headers << END X-Mailing-List: $LIST END taboo_headers << END /^X-Mailing-List: / /^Sender: owner-/ END #The X-Mailing-List: header is added the first time a message comes through. #The Sender: header is also added to every message majordomo sends, and I do not #want my lists to be recipients of themselves or other lists. If you really want to prevent loops, never set "reply_to = $list"! Not that you did, but this reply is going to all the majordomo-users. Dan Liston PS. Just for the record, your sendmail is 8.10.0.beta6 :) Stu Miller wrote: > > Hi, > > I have a strange error that I am hoping someone can help me with. I recently > had a couple messages "get stuck" looping through the list several times > (repeated about once every 15 minutes to an hour) until I killed sendmail. > The odd part is that each loop added the message_fronter and message_footer > s from the list.cf file (see inserted message below). It started with an FAQ > which gets posted by a cron job but all messages after that seemed to loop > as well. The mail queue was huge at the time this all started... > > Any one experienced anything similar? > I am not the sys admin but I'll provide what I know about the system as > background: > majordomo 1.94.4 > sendmail 8.x > redhat 6.2 > > Any help appreciated. > Thanks > > ------------------------- Example looped > msg: ------------------------------- > From lims-owner Thu Feb 1 11:33:19 2001 > Received: (from majordom@localhost) > by lims.taratec.com (8.10.0.Beta6/8.10.0.Beta6) id f11GXJr04930 > for lims-outgoing; Thu, 1 Feb 2001 11:33:19 -0500 > X-Authentication-Warning: lims.taratec.com: majordom set sender to > owner-lims@lims.taratec.com using -f > Message-Id: > X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise Internet Agent 5.5.5.1 > Date: Thu, 01 Feb 2001 09:02:01 -0500 > From: "Gerst Gibbon" > To: > Subject: LIMSList- LIMS Short Course > Mime-Version: 1.0 > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII > Content-Disposition: inline > Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit > X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lims.taratec.com id > f11GIBt04780 > Sender: owner-lims@lims.taratec.com > Precedence: bulk > > (Please share your responses; reply directly to lims@lims.taratec.com) > > (Please share your responses; reply directly to lims@lims.taratec.com) > > The American Chemical Society Short Course "LIMS: A Systematic Approach" > will be taught March 3-4 in New Orleans, LA, in conjunction > with PITTCON2001. Visit > http://www.acs.org/education/professional/sccm03.html for a course > description and to register for the course. > > ************************************************************************ > To remove yourself from this mailing list, send mail to > Majordomo@lims.taratec.com saying 'unsubscribe lims your_e-mail_address' > in the body of your message (no quotes & substitute your real e-mail > address, of course). To unsubscribe from the digest, substitute > 'lims-digest' for 'lims' above. > > ************************************************************************ > To remove yourself from this mailing list, send mail to > Majordomo@lims.taratec.com saying 'unsubscribe lims your_e-mail_address' > in the body of your message (no quotes & substitute your real e-mail > address, of course). To unsubscribe from the digest, substitute > 'lims-digest' for 'lims' above. > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > ~~ > > Regards, > Stu > -- > Stu Miller | > LIMS and Lab Automation | Taratec Development Corporation > 908.725.8090 x146 | Bridgewater NJ, Conshohocken PA, Chicago IL > 856.495.7541 (mobile) | www.taratec.com From majordomo-users-owner Thu Feb 1 23:04:53 2001 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-980720-1) id WAA02368; Thu, 1 Feb 2001 22:55:12 -0800 (PST) Received: from mtiwmhc28.worldnet.att.net (mtiwmhc28.worldnet.att.net [204.127.131.36]) by honor.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id BD59517EB0 for ; Thu, 1 Feb 2001 22:54:59 -0800 (PST) Received: from att.net ([12.72.50.131]) by mtiwmhc28.worldnet.att.net (InterMail vM.4.01.03.10 201-229-121-110) with ESMTP id <20010202065453.YXTX2550.mtiwmhc28.worldnet.att.net@att.net> for ; Fri, 2 Feb 2001 06:54:53 +0000 Message-ID: <3A7A5A05.4FF5886F@att.net> Date: Thu, 01 Feb 2001 22:56:05 -0800 From: "Jay O'Brien" X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: majordomo-users Subject: AOL Response to HTML / V6.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk Two of my mailing list members have received this from AOL when they complain about problems they are causing mailiing lists by not being able to send in plain text. Suggestion #1 below does not work. It still sends HTML. Suggestion #2 below does work. It requires the user to send email via AOL's web based email system, but it absolutely sends plain text, even when replying to a HTML message. At least the AOL user keeps the same email address. At least it shows AOL is aware of the problem. They are "collecting the data". Jay O'Brien Hi! My Name is Sharon and I'm writting to you in behalf of America Online in response to your recent email and concern. Thanks very much for making me aware of this technical issue. I appreciate your patience with this matter while you and I work to resolve this issue. I understand you have questions about the difficulties some recipients experience when reading e-mail sent from America Online (AOL) version 6.0. SEND PLAIN TEXT WHEN RECIPIENTS CANNOT READ HTML AOL version 6.0 sends e-mail in a multi-part alternative format that includes support for both plain text and hypertext mark-up language (HTML). With AOL version 6.0, you may send richly formatted e-mail to both AOL and Internet recipients (including colors, fonts, text formats, and text sizes). AOL is aware of some issues raised by mailing list (LISTSERV) owners and Postmasters whose systems do not accept richly formatted HTML e-mail. AOL Member Services is currently "collecting the data" on this issue. In the meantime, the following alternative methods are available to send plain text only e-mail to Internet addresses that reject rich formatting. TO SEND PLAIN TEXT ONLY E-MAIL, PLEASE REFER TO THE INFORMATION BELOW: 1. When authoring e-mail in AOL version 6.0, remove all formatting from the message body and send the message in the AOL 6.0 default of Arial, size 10 and do not include any bold/italics/underline, colors, or other styles. 2. Use AOL Mail on the Web located at the site below: http://www.aol.com You can send e-mail from AOL Mail on the Web to Internet addresses that reject formatting because AOL Mail on the Web sends mail as plain text only. 3. For mailing lists, contact the owner of the LISTSERV that is rejecting formatted e-mail and ask the owner to allow HTML formatted e-mail in the LISTSERV. The owner of the LISTSERV may allow the mailing list to accept HTML formatted e-mail if the formatted e-mail does not disrupt the normal flow of communications between mailing list subscribers who may not use richly formatted e-mail. I appreciate your e-mail and hope that my response fixes the issue. Please write back if you need additional information. My goal is to provide the best possible online experience. Sharon M. Customer Care Consultant The Techmail Department America Online Inc. From majordomo-users-owner Thu Feb 1 23:49:53 2001 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-980720-1) id XAA02852; Thu, 1 Feb 2001 23:43:41 -0800 (PST) Received: from ns1.bt.es (ns1.bt.es [212.49.128.65]) by honor.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id CC7DB17E8E for ; Thu, 1 Feb 2001 23:43:33 -0800 (PST) Received: from es_scr_exg.bt.es (es-scr-exg.bt.es [212.49.189.121]) by ns1.bt.es (8.9.1/8.9.1) with SMTP id IAA00308 for ; Fri, 2 Feb 2001 08:42:02 +0100 (MET) From: julio.prada@bt.es Received: FROM es_scr_exg.bt.es BY es_scr_exg.bt.es ; Fri Feb 02 08:42:57 2001 +0100 Received: by es-scr-exg.bt.es with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) id <1CZ3VPJ5>; Fri, 2 Feb 2001 08:42:57 +0100 Message-ID: To: majordomo-users@GreatCircle.COM Subject: Different "From" Date: Fri, 2 Feb 2001 08:42:55 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk hi all, I sent messages to subscribers and they receive From: notd@amtp.notd.net it's possible to change this for something more descriptive like: From: Notices of this day how can I do this? rhanks and regards, jules **********************************************=20 Noticia legal=20 Este mensaje electr=F3nico contiene informaci=F3n de BT = Telecomunicaciones S.A. que es privada y confidencial, siendo para el uso exclusivo de la = persona(s) o entidades arriba mencionadas. Si usted no es el destinatario = se=F1alado, le informamos que cualquier divulgaci=F3n, copia, distribuci=F3n o uso de = los contenidos est=E1 prohibida. Si usted ha recibido este mensaje por = error, por favor borre su contenido y comun=EDquenoslo en la direcci=F3n = postmaster@bt.es.=20 Gracias From majordomo-users-owner Fri Feb 2 04:19:54 2001 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-980720-1) id EAA08431; Fri, 2 Feb 2001 04:13:54 -0800 (PST) Received: from proxy1.addr.com (unknown [209.249.147.248]) by honor.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id CF4C617E8E for ; Fri, 2 Feb 2001 04:13:47 -0800 (PST) Received: from adsl-20-158-76.jax.bellsouth.net (adsl-20-158-76.jax.bellsouth.net [66.20.158.76]) by proxy1.addr.com (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id EAA49152 for ; Fri, 2 Feb 2001 04:11:17 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from rdcarson@OTnow.com) Date: Fri, 2 Feb 2001 07:12:44 -0500 From: Ron Carson X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.49) UNREG / CD5BF9353B3B7091 Reply-To: Ron Carson X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <4845739271.20010202071244@OTnow.com> To: majordomo-users@GreatCircle.COM Subject: Digest List Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk Hello: My ISP indicatest that when they set up a digest list it will be a separte list from the non-digest list and that messages are not shared between the lists. Surely, this can't be correct. Is my ISP or me in left field? Ron From majordomo-users-owner Fri Feb 2 07:20:31 2001 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-980720-1) id HAA09889; Fri, 2 Feb 2001 07:09:29 -0800 (PST) Received: from ns1.rfci.net (ns1.rfci.net [206.139.76.1]) by honor.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9F57517E8E for ; Fri, 2 Feb 2001 07:09:23 -0800 (PST) Received: from rfci.net (robbspc.rfci.net [206.137.39.240]) by ns1.rfci.net (8.9.0/8.9.0) with ESMTP id KAA12026 for ; Fri, 2 Feb 2001 10:09:22 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <3A7ACE02.2010304@rfci.net> Date: Fri, 02 Feb 2001 10:10:58 -0500 From: robbs User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win98; en-US; m18) Gecko/20001108 Netscape6/6.0 X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Majordomo Subject: How Do I Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk I am having a problem installing majordomo. Seems that during the un-pack process the tar file is to mkdir and load the results of the un-pack into that directory. Mind does not create the directory. I have down loaded an additional copy; deleted and added back majordom as a user chmod the user etc. with no results. Anyone have a comment as to a fix. Best Regards, Robb From majordomo-users-owner Fri Feb 2 07:34:58 2001 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-980720-1) id HAA09956; Fri, 2 Feb 2001 07:16:49 -0800 (PST) Received: from arm.mrball.net (mrball.net [209.85.130.137]) by honor.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 34AFE17E8E for ; Fri, 2 Feb 2001 07:16:44 -0800 (PST) Received: from mrball.net (todd.mrball.net [192.168.18.3]) by arm.mrball.net (8.11.2/8.11.2) with ESMTP id f12FGUh05093; Fri, 2 Feb 2001 07:16:34 -0800 Message-ID: <3A7ACF4E.DBC1F696@mrball.net> Date: Fri, 02 Feb 2001 07:16:30 -0800 From: Todd Lyons X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (X11; U; Linux 2.2.14-zip i586) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Drew Cc: majordomo-users@GreatCircle.COM Subject: Re: Fw: Returned mail: see transcript for details References: <00c301c08cd4$cf109620$3ed80640@reflexnet.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk Drew wrote: > > ----- Transcript of session follows ----- > > Message delivered to mailing list > > smrsh: wrapper not available for sendmail programs > > 554 5.0.0 "|/usr/local/majordomo/wrapper resend -l test1 test1-list"... > Service unavailable Assuming you have the smrsh directory located at /etc/smrsh: ln -s /usr/local/majordomo/wrapper /etc/smrsh/wrapper -- Blue skies... Todd | Get a bigger hammer! | Proponents of MIME in general e-mail | | http://www.mrball.net | can go multipart/encrypt themselves. | | http://faq.mrball.net | --Rick Moen | From majordomo-users-owner Fri Feb 2 08:35:00 2001 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-980720-1) id IAA10700; Fri, 2 Feb 2001 08:31:06 -0800 (PST) Received: from netscape.com (r2d2.netscape.com [205.217.237.47]) by honor.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3715017E8E for ; Fri, 2 Feb 2001 08:31:00 -0800 (PST) Received: from judge.mcom.com (judge.mcom.com [205.217.237.53]) by netscape.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with ESMTP id f12GUxb04695 for ; Fri, 2 Feb 2001 08:30:59 -0800 (PST) Received: from netscape.com ([205.217.228.119]) by judge.mcom.com (Netscape Messaging Server 4.15) with ESMTP id G851VM00.VF0; Fri, 2 Feb 2001 08:30:58 -0800 Message-ID: <3A7AE095.EB169156@netscape.com> Date: Fri, 02 Feb 2001 10:30:13 -0600 From: dliston@netscape.com (Dan Liston) Organization: iPlanet E-Commerce Solutions, a Sun-Netscape Alliance X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.75 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Drew Cc: majordomo-users@GreatCircle.COM Subject: Re: Fw: Returned mail: see transcript for details References: <00c301c08cd4$cf109620$3ed80640@reflexnet.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk If you open the FAQ and search for wrapper, I think you will find your answer. Your sendmail uses smrsh, and as such, requires a link to programs executed from the aliases file in a special smrsh directory. Majordomo's wrapper is one of those programs. Dan Liston Drew wrote: > > And this is what I get when I send a msg to the list. > > HELP!! =) > > -Drew > latras@martin-wolfe.com > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Mail Delivery Subsystem" > To: > Sent: Friday, February 02, 2001 4:56 AM > Subject: Returned mail: see transcript for details > > > The original message was received at Fri, 2 Feb 2001 04:56:50 -0800 > > from rfx-64-6-216-62.users.reflexcom.com [64.6.216.62] > > > > ----- The following addresses had permanent fatal errors ----- > > "|/usr/local/majordomo/wrapper resend -l test1 test1-list" > > (reason: service unavailable) > > (expanded from: ) > > > > ----- Transcript of session follows ----- > > Message delivered to mailing list > > smrsh: wrapper not available for sendmail programs > > 554 5.0.0 "|/usr/local/majordomo/wrapper resend -l test1 test1-list"... > Service unavailable > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Name: ATT00180.dat > ATT00180.dat Type: unspecified type (application/octet-stream) > Encoding: quoted-printable > > Name: ATT00184.eml > ATT00184.eml Type: MHTML Document (message/rfc822) > Encoding: 7bit From majordomo-users-owner Fri Feb 2 09:04:58 2001 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-980720-1) id IAA10830; Fri, 2 Feb 2001 08:53:48 -0800 (PST) Received: from netscape.com (c3po.netscape.com [205.217.237.46]) by honor.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id EC30917E8E for ; Fri, 2 Feb 2001 08:53:41 -0800 (PST) Received: from judge.mcom.com (judge.mcom.com [205.217.237.53]) by netscape.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with ESMTP id f12GrdG03791 for ; Fri, 2 Feb 2001 08:53:39 -0800 (PST) Received: from netscape.com ([205.217.228.119]) by judge.mcom.com (Netscape Messaging Server 4.15) with ESMTP id G852XF00.SFL; Fri, 2 Feb 2001 08:53:39 -0800 Message-ID: <3A7AE5E5.CDA135DD@netscape.com> Date: Fri, 02 Feb 2001 10:52:53 -0600 From: dliston@netscape.com (Dan Liston) Organization: iPlanet E-Commerce Solutions, a Sun-Netscape Alliance X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.75 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Ron Carson Cc: majordomo-users@GreatCircle.COM Subject: Re: Digest List References: <4845739271.20010202071244@OTnow.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk Ask your ISP if they understand what this set of aliases does. nobody: /dev/null test: "|/mj1945/wrapper resend -l test test-outgoing, nobody" owner-test: dan, test-outgoing: :include:/mj1945/lists/test", test-archiver, test-digestify owner-test-outgoing: owner-test test-archiver: "|/mj1945/wrapper archive2.pl -f /mj1945/archives/test -a -M" test-digestify: "|/mj1945/wrapper digest -r -C -l test-digest test-digest-outgoing, nobody" #test-request: "|/mj1945/wrapper request-answer test" test-request: "|/mj1945/wrapper majordomo -l test" test-approval: owner-test test-digest: test owner-test-digest: owner-test test-digest-outgoing: :include:/mj1945/lists/test-digest, owner-test-digest-outgoing: owner-test test-digest-request: "|/mj1945/wrapper majordomo -l test-digest" test-digest-approval: owner-test These aliases have dependencies on settings in majordomo.cf of course, but just to give you an overview; All messages sent to the list address test, are piped through the resend script so settings in test.config will be used. Resend evaluates the message and processes/forwards messages to the test-outgoing alias (address). All messages sent to the test-outgoing address are also delivered to the list subscribers, the archiver alias and the digestify alias. The archiver alias appends messages to a file. The digestify alias keeps copies of the message in a special work directory until a setting in the test-digest.config file is reached, or you execute a mkdigest command against that list. Any message sent directly to the test-digest alias (address) are redirected to the proper alias of test where the message can be properly processed as above. Dan Liston The Ron Carson wrote: > > Hello: > > My ISP indicatest that when they set up a digest list it will be a > separte list from the non-digest list and that messages are not shared > between the lists. Surely, this can't be correct. Is my ISP or me in > left field? > > Ron From majordomo-users-owner Fri Feb 2 09:19:56 2001 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-980720-1) id JAA11063; Fri, 2 Feb 2001 09:11:12 -0800 (PST) Received: from netscape.com (c3po.netscape.com [205.217.237.46]) by honor.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E5E6C17E8E for ; Fri, 2 Feb 2001 09:11:06 -0800 (PST) Received: from judge.mcom.com (judge.mcom.com [205.217.237.53]) by netscape.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with ESMTP id f12HB5G06598 for ; Fri, 2 Feb 2001 09:11:05 -0800 (PST) Received: from netscape.com ([205.217.228.119]) by judge.mcom.com (Netscape Messaging Server 4.15) with ESMTP id G853QH01.JGE; Fri, 2 Feb 2001 09:11:05 -0800 Message-ID: <3A7AE9FC.F08F736E@netscape.com> Date: Fri, 02 Feb 2001 11:10:20 -0600 From: dliston@netscape.com (Dan Liston) Organization: iPlanet E-Commerce Solutions, a Sun-Netscape Alliance X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.75 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Stu Miller , Majordomo Users Subject: Re: Looping thru resend? References: <20010202135254.27537.qmail@web10809.mail.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk If you do not care about mail that is queued up, be careful not to delete files in the wrong directory. The "waiting to be delivered" messages will have filenames of dfAAA12345 qfAAA12345. These are a data file and queue (control) file for each message. They usually live in /var/spool/mqueue, not /var/spool/mail. Majordomo does not add or change message IDs, the MTA handles that. If you are getting a loop with identical IDs, your aliases might be at fault. This is not my strong area, so maybe some digging around on the sendmail site, or one of the other majordomo-users can provide accurate info. Note too, that the nobody you added to the alias should have been comma nobody (,nobody) and it should be inside the quoted portion of the pipe to wrapper. Dan Liston Stu Miller wrote: > > Dan, > > Thanks for the help. Don't have access to my main > account so replying direct to you, will copy the list > as follow-up later today. > > Added majordom as trusted in sendmail.cf and "nobody" > as last parameter in resend line in aliases. Also used > your recipe in $list.config to prevent loops. > > Two final questions that don't necessarily concern > other list members. The message ids were in fact > identical. Can I assume that this means that resend > was doing the looping and not sendmail? What is the > best way to clean out the mail queue? Stop sendmail > and then delete all temp files in \var\spool\mail > (assuming you don't care about any pending mail). > > Thanks again. > > ===== > Regards, > Stu > -- > Stu Miller > Taratec Development Corporation > Phone: 908.725.8090 x146 > Cell: 856.495.7541 > > __________________________________________________ > Get personalized email addresses from Yahoo! Mail - only $35 > a year! http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ From majordomo-users-owner Fri Feb 2 09:34:57 2001 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-980720-1) id JAA11070; Fri, 2 Feb 2001 09:11:34 -0800 (PST) Received: from merchant.commercenet.co.uk (merchant.commercenet.co.uk [194.128.199.10]) by honor.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 207F717E8E for ; Fri, 2 Feb 2001 09:11:26 -0800 (PST) Received: from magpie (magpie.commercenet.co.uk [194.128.199.58]) by merchant.commercenet.co.uk (8.11.1/8.11.1) with SMTP id f12HBKu31631; Fri, 2 Feb 2001 17:11:20 GMT Reply-To: From: "gharris" To: "'Sharon F.'" , Subject: RE: Date: Fri, 2 Feb 2001 17:06:31 -0000 Message-ID: <00d101c08d3a$7dbafd40$3ac780c2@commercenet.co.uk> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook CWS, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) In-Reply-To: <200101301751250730.04771495@smtp-server> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 Importance: Normal Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk I have had similar problems when a qmail server bounces a message and strips some headers. The bounced mail looks as if it came from your list-owner so it is sent out as a new one. Change the list.config with:- message_headers << END X-Mailing-List: $LIST END and taboo_headers << END /^X-Mailing-List: $LIST/ END This will add an extra header which you can detect on the bounced message. Gerry Harris. Commerce NTI. -----Original Message----- From: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM [mailto:majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM]On Behalf Of Sharon F. Sent: 30 January 2001 22:51 To: majordomo-users@GreatCircle.COM Subject: I think my list is stuck in a loop. Here's the header. We're getting resends of one email over and over. The footer is even multiplying list it would if it's a reply. I've been putting email blocks in right and left.. any ideas folks? Thanks! Sharon Received: from family-connection.net ([216.122.160.133] EHLO family-connection.net ident: IDENT-NOT-QUERIED [port 45035]) by mail2.one.net with ESMTP id <68933-13822>; Tue, 30 Jan 2001 17:29:27 -0500 Received: (from familyc@localhost) by family-connection.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) id PAA07352 for a11474609; Tue, 30 Jan 2001 15:39:45 -0500 (EST) Received: (from familyc@localhost) by family-connection.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) id PAA07347 for a65234375; Tue, 30 Jan 2001 15:39:45 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail01a.rapidsite.net (mail01a.rapidsite.net [207.158.192.230]) by family-connection.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id PAA07342 for ; Tue, 30 Jan 2001 15:39:42 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 15276232 invoked by uid 0); 30 Jan 2001 20:38:38 -0000 Received: from family-connection.net (216.122.160.133) by mail01a.rapidsite.net (RS ver 1.0.58s) with SMTP id 014397316; Mon, 29 Jan 2001 11:19:10 -0500 (EST) Received: (from familyc@localhost) by family-connection.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) id LAA08867 for a66754150; Mon, 29 Jan 2001 11:10:20 -0500 (EST) Received: (from familyc@localhost) by family-connection.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) id LAA08368 for a65234375; Mon, 29 Jan 2001 11:07:11 -0500 (EST) Received: from pandora.netralink.com (pandora.netralink.com [196.15.143.146]) by family-connection.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA08360 for ; Mon, 29 Jan 2001 11:07:07 -0500 (EST) Received: by pandora.netralink.com (Postfix, from userid 500) id CB1E87FC2A; Mon, 29 Jan 2001 17:46:06 +0200 (SAST) Received: from family-connection.net (family-connection.net [216.122.160.133]) by pandora.netralink.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 917213BE5E for ; Mon, 29 Jan 2001 17:41:17 +0200 (SAST) Received: (from familyc@localhost) by family-connection.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) id IAA08323 for a77200317; Mon, 29 Jan 2001 08:29:49 -0500 (EST) Received: (from familyc@localhost) by family-connection.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) id IAA06031 for a65234375; Mon, 29 Jan 2001 08:15:45 -0500 (EST) Received: (from familyc@localhost) by family-connection.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) id IAA06026; Mon, 29 Jan 2001 08:15:44 -0500 (EST) From majordomo-users-owner Fri Feb 2 10:34:57 2001 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-980720-1) id KAA11822; Fri, 2 Feb 2001 10:34:06 -0800 (PST) Received: from sporter.bestdist.com (proxy.bestdist.com [216.77.43.66]) by honor.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8072717E8E for ; Fri, 2 Feb 2001 10:33:59 -0800 (PST) Received: from bestdist.com (IDENT:sporter@localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by sporter.bestdist.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA12286; Fri, 2 Feb 2001 13:33:46 -0500 Message-ID: <3A7AFD8A.6A57BAA6@bestdist.com> Date: Fri, 02 Feb 2001 13:33:46 -0500 From: Sean Porterfield Organization: Best Distributing Co. X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.75 [en] (X11; U; Linux 2.2.12-20 i686) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Ron Carson Cc: majordomo-users@GreatCircle.COM Subject: Re: Digest List References: <4845739271.20010202071244@OTnow.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk Ron Carson wrote: > > Hello: > > My ISP indicatest that when they set up a digest list it will be a > separte list from the non-digest list and that messages are not shared > between the lists. Surely, this can't be correct. Is my ISP or me in > left field? > > Ron They are two separate lists. The digest list is included in the alias from the regular list. All messages go to the regular list, never the digest list. Then the digest is created from those messages. Users subscribed to the regular list get all messages. Users subscribed to the digest list get the digestified messages. I'm probably not being very clear, though. From majordomo-users-owner Fri Feb 2 10:50:03 2001 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-980720-1) id KAA11866; Fri, 2 Feb 2001 10:36:18 -0800 (PST) Received: from sporter.bestdist.com (proxy.bestdist.com [216.77.43.66]) by honor.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 01E3317E8E for ; Fri, 2 Feb 2001 10:36:11 -0800 (PST) Received: from bestdist.com (IDENT:sporter@localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by sporter.bestdist.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA12293; Fri, 2 Feb 2001 13:35:36 -0500 Message-ID: <3A7AFDF8.F3F03F6D@bestdist.com> Date: Fri, 02 Feb 2001 13:35:36 -0500 From: Sean Porterfield Organization: Best Distributing Co. X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.75 [en] (X11; U; Linux 2.2.12-20 i686) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: julio.prada@bt.es Cc: majordomo-users@GreatCircle.COM Subject: Re: Different "From" References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk julio.prada@bt.es wrote: > > hi all, > > I sent messages to subscribers and they receive > > From: notd@amtp.notd.net > > it's possible to change this for something more descriptive like: > > From: Notices of this day > > how can I do this? >From is set by your email client. Just change that to whatever you want. This is not a majordomo issue. From should be a valid email address. "Notices of this day" would be better in the subject. From majordomo-users-owner Fri Feb 2 12:19:58 2001 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-980720-1) id MAA13001; Fri, 2 Feb 2001 12:17:55 -0800 (PST) Received: from srvntsxconn3.toc.ixl.com (srvntsxconn3.toc.ixl.com [216.99.0.139]) by honor.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with SMTP id D826B17E8E for ; Fri, 2 Feb 2001 12:17:47 -0800 (PST) Received: from 216.99.0.139 by srvntsxconn3.toc.ixl.com (InterScan E-Mail VirusWall NT); Fri, 02 Feb 2001 15:17:47 -0500 (Eastern Standard Time) Received: by srvntsxconn3.toc.ixl.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) id ; Fri, 2 Feb 2001 15:17:47 -0500 Message-ID: <4DB214DCBA8BD21185F00008C75643DC91A5AF@exchange.ric.ixl.com> From: cbusse@ixl.com To: majordomo-users@greatcircle.com Subject: inherited 120,000 users, 30% bouncing - please help! Date: Fri, 2 Feb 2001 15:17:38 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk Hello, A few months ago I inherited a majordomo list (weekly newsletter) of 120,000 users and was tasked with setting it up on a new server without being able to see the setup on the old server. I think I have overcome all the hurdles of setting up and delivering messages to such a large list (bulk_mailer, sendmail timeout tweaks, etc), with the exception of the fact that roughly 30% of these addresses are bouncing because the previous list admin wasn't keeping up with removing them! I don't relish the thought of manually bouncing 36,000 addresses, so I'm looking for a better solution... even if I could just get the bounced addresses logged somehow, I could at least sed/awk it and send those to the bounce script. I already got a co-worker to write a script that looks through the syslog and bounces any email that experiences a "delay=5+" (5 days and still timing out), but that doesn't help me with invalid addresses. Platform is Solaris, sendmail and majordomo, I have access to install anything (free) so I'm open to any suggestions... has anyone written a similar script? Is there a sendmail setting to log invalid addresses somehow? Anything? Thank you very much! Chris Busse cbusse@ixl.com From majordomo-users-owner Fri Feb 2 14:04:59 2001 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-980720-1) id NAA13868; Fri, 2 Feb 2001 13:53:37 -0800 (PST) Received: from ecoexchg.ecodev.state.mo.us (unknown [168.166.65.190]) by honor.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4A93117E8E for ; Fri, 2 Feb 2001 13:53:31 -0800 (PST) Received: by ECOEXCHG with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) id ; Fri, 2 Feb 2001 15:53:30 -0600 Message-ID: From: "Anderson, Bill" To: "'majordomo-users@GreatCircle.COM'" Subject: RE: Different "From" Date: Fri, 2 Feb 2001 15:53:29 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk This is just an idea. I don't know if it will work. Perhaps Dan and = others can say if it is a viable solution. Perhaps in your notd.config file, you could set the sender =3D line to something like: Notices of this day Maybe this would work. -----Original Message----- From: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM [mailto:majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM]On Behalf Of julio.prada@bt.es Sent: Friday, February 02, 2001 1:43 AM To: majordomo-users@GreatCircle.COM Subject: Different "From"=20 hi all, I sent messages to subscribers and they receive From: notd@amtp.notd.net it's possible to change this for something more descriptive like: From: Notices of this day how can I do this? rhanks and regards, jules **********************************************=20 Noticia legal=20 Este mensaje electr=F3nico contiene informaci=F3n de BT = Telecomunicaciones S.A. que es privada y confidencial, siendo para el uso exclusivo de la = persona(s) o entidades arriba mencionadas. Si usted no es el destinatario = se=F1alado, le informamos que cualquier divulgaci=F3n, copia, distribuci=F3n o uso de = los contenidos est=E1 prohibida. Si usted ha recibido este mensaje por = error, por favor borre su contenido y comun=EDquenoslo en la direcci=F3n = postmaster@bt.es.=20 Gracias From majordomo-users-owner Fri Feb 2 14:19:59 2001 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-980720-1) id OAA14131; Fri, 2 Feb 2001 14:18:09 -0800 (PST) Received: from [207.254.182.2] (unknown [207.254.182.2]) by honor.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with SMTP id 5DF5117E8E for ; Fri, 2 Feb 2001 14:18:01 -0800 (PST) Received: from enterprise.taratec.com by [207.254.182.2] via smtpd (for honor.greatcircle.com [198.102.244.44]) with SMTP; 2 Feb 2001 22:18:01 UT Received: (private information removed) Reply-To: From: "Stu Miller" To: Cc: Subject: RE: Looping thru resend? Date: Fri, 2 Feb 2001 17:11:18 -0500 Message-ID: <003201c08d65$11a2f740$e001a8c0@taratec.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook CWS, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <3A7A42B4.63FB55FD@mrball.net> Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk Todd Lyons wrote: > > Received: (from majordom@localhost) > > by lims.taratec.com (8.10.0.Beta6/8.10.0.Beta6) id > f11GXJr04930 > > for lims-outgoing; Thu, 1 Feb 2001 11:33:19 -0500 > > Did the next email in the loop have the same id number as the > above line? > Yes, each repeated message had the same message id. Is there a way to tell if it is the digestify or archive aliase causing the problem? Here's the relavent part of the aliases file: # # Begin Majordomo List Aliases # majordom: majordomo majordomo: "|/usr/local/majordomo/wrapper majordomo" # changed form tkevans@taratec.com to smiller Majordomo-Owner: smiller@lims.taratec.com owner-majordomo: smiller@lims.taratec.com # #lims mailing list stuff # lims: "|/usr/local/majordomo/wrapper resend -p bulk -M 10000 -l lims -f lims-Owner -h lims.taratec.com -s lims- outgoing,nobody" owner-lims: lims-owner lims-outgoing: :include:/usr/local/majordomo/lists/lims, lims-archive, lims-digestify owner-lims-outgoing: lims-owner lims-archive: "|/usr/local/majordomo/wrapper archive -f /usr/local/majordomo/lists/lims.archive/lims -a -M" owner-lims-archive: lims-owner lims-request: "|/usr/local/majordomo/wrapper request-answer lims" owner-lims-request: lims-owner lims-approval: smiller lims-owner: smiller@lims.taratec.com # # lims-digest stuff # lims-digestify: "|/usr/local//majordomo/wrapper digest -r -C -l lims-digest lims-digest-outgoing" lims-digest: lims lims-digest-outgoing: :include:/usr/local/majordomo/lists/lims-digest lims-digest-request: "|/usr/local/majordomo/wrapper majordomo -l lims-digest" lims-digest-approval: smiller owner-lims-digest-outgoing: owner-lims lims-digest-owner: smiller@lims.taratec.com > You need to make majordom a trusted user for sendmail. Find > the line in > sendmail.cf that has: > Troot > then add > Tmajordom > Fixed this one too... Thanks, Stu -- Stu Miller | LIMS and Lab Automation | Taratec Development Corporation 908.725.8090 x146 | Bridgewater NJ, Conshohocken PA, Chicago IL 856.495.7541 (mobile) | www.taratec.com From majordomo-users-owner Fri Feb 2 16:10:03 2001 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-980720-1) id QAA15106; Fri, 2 Feb 2001 16:00:16 -0800 (PST) Received: from netscape.com (r2d2.netscape.com [205.217.237.47]) by honor.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 03E2A17E8E for ; Fri, 2 Feb 2001 16:00:02 -0800 (PST) Received: from judge.mcom.com (judge.mcom.com [205.217.237.53]) by netscape.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with ESMTP id f12Nxxb01320 for ; Fri, 2 Feb 2001 15:59:59 -0800 (PST) Received: from netscape.com ([205.217.240.38]) by judge.mcom.com (Netscape Messaging Server 4.15) with ESMTP id G85MNZ03.DO4; Fri, 2 Feb 2001 15:59:59 -0800 Message-ID: <3A7B49D3.C32161F8@netscape.com> Date: Fri, 02 Feb 2001 17:59:15 -0600 From: dliston@netscape.com (Dan Liston) Organization: iPlanet E-Commerce Solutions, a Sun-Netscape Alliance X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.75 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: gharris@commercenet.co.uk Cc: "'Sharon F.'" , majordomo-users@GreatCircle.COM Subject: Re: References: <00d101c08d3a$7dbafd40$3ac780c2@commercenet.co.uk> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk A little warning should be inserted here. I do not thing the $LIST is expanded into your listname of the list in your taboo_headers. Unless you mean for it to be replaced with the actual name of the list. In the message_headers, the $LIST will be expanded into the actual listname, to verbatim below does not work. Dan Liston gharris wrote: > > I have had similar problems when a qmail server bounces a message and strips > some headers. The bounced mail looks as if it came from your list-owner so > it is sent out as a new one. Change the list.config with:- > > message_headers << END > X-Mailing-List: $LIST > END > > and > > taboo_headers << END > /^X-Mailing-List: $LIST/ > END > > This will add an extra header which you can detect on the bounced message. > > Gerry Harris. > Commerce NTI. > > -----Original Message----- > From: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM > [mailto:majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM]On Behalf Of Sharon F. > Sent: 30 January 2001 22:51 > To: majordomo-users@GreatCircle.COM > Subject: > > I think my list is stuck in a loop. Here's the header. We're getting > resends of one email over and over. The footer is even multiplying list it > would if it's a reply. > > I've been putting email blocks in right and left.. any ideas folks? > > Thanks! > Sharon > > Received: from family-connection.net ([216.122.160.133] EHLO > family-connection.net ident: IDENT-NOT-QUERIED [port 45035]) by > mail2.one.net with ESMTP id <68933-13822>; Tue, 30 Jan 2001 17:29:27 -0500 > Received: (from familyc@localhost) > by family-connection.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) id PAA07352 > for a11474609; Tue, 30 Jan 2001 15:39:45 -0500 (EST) > Received: (from familyc@localhost) > by family-connection.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) id PAA07347 > for a65234375; Tue, 30 Jan 2001 15:39:45 -0500 (EST) > Received: from mail01a.rapidsite.net (mail01a.rapidsite.net > [207.158.192.230]) > by family-connection.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id PAA07342 > for ; Tue, 30 Jan 2001 15:39:42 -0500 (EST) > Received: (qmail 15276232 invoked by uid 0); 30 Jan 2001 20:38:38 -0000 > Received: from family-connection.net (216.122.160.133) > by mail01a.rapidsite.net (RS ver 1.0.58s) with SMTP id 014397316; > Mon, 29 Jan 2001 11:19:10 -0500 (EST) > Received: (from familyc@localhost) > by family-connection.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) id LAA08867 > for a66754150; Mon, 29 Jan 2001 11:10:20 -0500 (EST) > Received: (from familyc@localhost) > by family-connection.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) id LAA08368 > for a65234375; Mon, 29 Jan 2001 11:07:11 -0500 (EST) > Received: from pandora.netralink.com (pandora.netralink.com > [196.15.143.146]) > by family-connection.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA08360 > for ; Mon, 29 Jan 2001 11:07:07 -0500 (EST) > Received: by pandora.netralink.com (Postfix, from userid 500) > id CB1E87FC2A; Mon, 29 Jan 2001 17:46:06 +0200 (SAST) > Received: from family-connection.net (family-connection.net > [216.122.160.133]) > by pandora.netralink.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 917213BE5E > for ; Mon, 29 Jan 2001 17:41:17 +0200 (SAST) > Received: (from familyc@localhost) > by family-connection.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) id IAA08323 > for a77200317; Mon, 29 Jan 2001 08:29:49 -0500 (EST) > Received: (from familyc@localhost) > by family-connection.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) id IAA06031 > for a65234375; Mon, 29 Jan 2001 08:15:45 -0500 (EST) > Received: (from familyc@localhost) > by family-connection.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) id IAA06026; > Mon, 29 Jan 2001 08:15:44 -0500 (EST) From majordomo-users-owner Fri Feb 2 16:23:26 2001 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-980720-1) id QAA15268; Fri, 2 Feb 2001 16:17:04 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail1.iwec.com (unknown [207.212.220.103]) by honor.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with SMTP id 73F7C17E8E for ; Fri, 2 Feb 2001 16:16:57 -0800 (PST) Received: from [207.212.220.28] (HELO MARK) by mail1.iwec.com (Stalker SMTP Server 1.7) with SMTP id S.0000102959 for ; Fri, 02 Feb 2001 16:26:32 -0800 Message-ID: <00d301c08d76$fc6f8c00$1cdcd4cf@WCGI> From: To: Subject: Install Issues (Permissions) Date: Fri, 2 Feb 2001 16:19:34 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_00D0_01C08D33.EE153670" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2919.6600 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6600 Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_00D0_01C08D33.EE153670 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Major Users, I am getting the following errors when trying to send mail thorugh a = list file "test". The original message was received at Fri, 2 Feb 2001 17:43:02 -0500 from majordom@localhost ----- The following addresses had permanent fatal errors ----- :include:/home/majordom/lists/test (expanded from: test-outgoing) ----- Transcript of session follows ----- 550 5.2.4 :include:/home/majordom/lists/test... Cannot open /home/majordom/lists/test: Permission denied The list files have permission 664 The directories majordom and lists are set to 750 majordom is set to group daemon and group ownership on the directories = is majordom.daemon The aliases are set up like they are in the INstall directions.=20 I added a symbolic link in the smrsh folder to wrapper The FAQ tells me that when I get this error my permissions are to strict = yet the Install tells me to set the permissions to what I have above? I am using sendmail on redhat linux 7.2. I must be missing something = simple? Thanks-In-Advance, Mark Sprenger ------=_NextPart_000_00D0_01C08D33.EE153670 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Major Users,
 
I am getting the following errors when = trying to=20 send mail thorugh a list file "test".
 
The original message was received at = Fri, 2 Feb=20 2001 17:43:02 -0500
from majordom@localhost

   ----- = The=20 following addresses had permanent fatal errors=20 -----
:include:/home/majordom/lists/test
    = (expanded=20 from: test-outgoing)

   ----- Transcript of session = follows=20 -----
550 5.2.4 :include:/home/majordom/lists/test... Cannot=20 open
/home/majordom/lists/test: Permission denied
The list files have permission = 664
The directories majordom and lists are = set to=20 750
majordom is set to group daemon and = group ownership=20 on the directories is majordom.daemon
The aliases are set up like they are in = the INstall=20 directions.
I added a symbolic link in the smrsh = folder to=20 wrapper
 
The FAQ tells me that when I get this = error my=20 permissions are to strict yet the Install tells me to set the = permissions to=20 what I have above?
 
I am using sendmail on redhat linux = 7.2.  I=20 must be missing something simple?
 
Thanks-In-Advance,
 
Mark = Sprenger
------=_NextPart_000_00D0_01C08D33.EE153670-- From majordomo-users-owner Sat Feb 3 00:20:04 2001 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-980720-1) id AAA20573; Sat, 3 Feb 2001 00:19:28 -0800 (PST) Received: from mtiwmhc23.worldnet.att.net (mtiwmhc23.worldnet.att.net [204.127.131.48]) by honor.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3C48A17E8E for ; Sat, 3 Feb 2001 00:19:23 -0800 (PST) Received: from att.net ([12.72.49.5]) by mtiwmhc23.worldnet.att.net (InterMail vM.4.01.03.10 201-229-121-110) with ESMTP id <20010203081917.YMDP28450.mtiwmhc23.worldnet.att.net@att.net> for ; Sat, 3 Feb 2001 08:19:17 +0000 Message-ID: <3A7BBF4F.CDACB9C8@att.net> Date: Sat, 03 Feb 2001 00:20:31 -0800 From: "Jay O'Brien" X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: majordomo-users Subject: How to send plain text from AOL V6.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk FYI: How to send plain text from AOL V6.0: ===================================== 1. Make sure your font is set to Arial 10, the AOL default. 2. Create a message using only default Arial 10 type. Any quoted text pasted in from another message must also be in Arial 10 type (no bold, other sizes or colors). Note: if you paste a message that was received in HTML format, it will probably cause you to send in HTML. 3. Hit Control-A to highlight the entire message. 4. Right click anywhere in the message itself: A 'popup menu' will appear. Move the cursor to "text" and another menu will appear. Move the cursor to "normal" and click on it. 5. Send the message. ====================================== I don't think even AOL knows how to do this. This has been tested at length and apparently is relatively easy to accomplish in AOL 6.0. Of course AOL "updates" their users software on line without the users knowledge, so this fix could be removed by AOL at any time. Attempts to communicate with AOL result in boilerplate messages that "apologize for the inconvenience" and suggest fixes that don't work. Jay O'Brien From majordomo-users-owner Sat Feb 3 06:07:48 2001 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-980720-1) id GAA27432; Sat, 3 Feb 2001 06:00:47 -0800 (PST) Received: from rly-ip01.mx.aol.com (rly-ip01.mx.aol.com [205.188.156.49]) by honor.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8382F17E8C for ; Sat, 3 Feb 2001 06:00:37 -0800 (PST) Received: from tot-mtc-tc.proxy.aol.com (tot-mtc-tc.proxy.aol.com [64.12.105.131]) by rly-ip01.mx.aol.com (8.8.8/8.8.8/AOL-5.0.0) with ESMTP id JAA25567; Sat, 3 Feb 2001 09:00:19 -0500 (EST) Received: from 13dm501 (ACAF54C1.ipt.aol.com [172.175.84.193]) by tot-mtc-tc.proxy.aol.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with SMTP id f13E0Iw25160; Sat, 3 Feb 2001 09:00:18 -0500 (EST) Reply-To: From: "Rev. Brian K. Berger" To: "Jay O'Brien" Cc: Subject: RE: How to send plain text from AOL V6.0 Date: Sat, 3 Feb 2001 08:59:00 -0500 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <3A7BBF4F.CDACB9C8@att.net> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 X-Apparently-From: RevBKBerger@aol.com Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk ----Original Message----- From: Jay O'Brien FYI: How to send plain text from AOL V6.0: ===================================== Brian K. Berger replies- Sorry, this should have said how to "attempt" to send plain text from AOL 6.0. AOL garblification creates a css/plain-text document, which in HTML protocol is ok, but is not a part of the mail protocols. CSS/plain-text was abandoned during beta testing of IE 5, but appeared in final builds and release product. I tested a send of your instructions from AOL to this address, and it is not plain-text. It is HTML plain-text. I have the newest AOL build of version 6.0. I would dump it in a NY minute, but need the dial in to send/receive thru this Suse Linux box. Also my economics have changed in the last few months, requiring budget adjustments. I have tried about every way to send plain text, to accommodate the new list members we gain from time to time that are AOL newbies. The protocol drifted to new versions of Juno also, and I opted to remain with an old version (4.0) until they force me to update. About any web mail sends in css/plain-text also. -- Brian Berger < bkberger@moorewebs.com > NOTE the NEW address! Manchester, NH The use of AOL with my name does not endorse in any way AOL- Friends don't let friends use AOL! From majordomo-users-owner Sat Feb 3 09:07:49 2001 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-980720-1) id IAA28878; Sat, 3 Feb 2001 08:53:39 -0800 (PST) Received: from mtiwmhc21.worldnet.att.net (mtiwmhc21.worldnet.att.net [204.127.131.46]) by honor.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id EB3E017E8C for ; Sat, 3 Feb 2001 08:53:31 -0800 (PST) Received: from att.net ([12.72.205.144]) by mtiwmhc21.worldnet.att.net (InterMail vM.4.01.03.10 201-229-121-110) with ESMTP id <20010203165330.ZHZU29407.mtiwmhc21.worldnet.att.net@att.net>; Sat, 3 Feb 2001 16:53:30 +0000 Message-ID: <3A7C37DB.631EB4E9@att.net> Date: Sat, 03 Feb 2001 08:54:51 -0800 From: "Jay O'Brien" X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: bkberger@latte.moorewebs.com Cc: majordomo-users@greatcircle.com Subject: Re: How to send plain text from AOL V6.0 References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk Brian, Your results are different than mine. See the example below, which is clearly text/plain, exactly the same as from Netscape Messenger. What I wanted was a way for AOL V6 users to be able to send in plain text to my mailing lists; at least with the examples I have seen, it works. Hopefully your example is "the exception that proves the rule!" Jay "Rev. Brian K. Berger" wrote: > > ----Original Message----- > From: Jay O'Brien > > FYI: > > How to send plain text from AOL V6.0: > ===================================== > > Brian K. Berger replies- > Sorry, this should have said how to "attempt" to send plain text > from AOL 6.0. AOL garblification creates a css/plain-text document, > which in HTML protocol is ok, but is not a part of the mail > protocols. CSS/plain-text was abandoned during beta testing of IE > 5, but appeared in final builds and release product. I tested a > send of your instructions from AOL to this address, and it is not > plain-text. It is HTML plain-text. I have the newest AOL build of > version 6.0. I would dump it in a NY minute, but need the dial in > to send/receive thru this Suse Linux box. Also my economics have > changed in the last few months, requiring budget adjustments. I > have tried about every way to send plain text, to accommodate the > new list members we gain from time to time that are AOL newbies. > The protocol drifted to new versions of Juno also, and I opted to > remain with an old version (4.0) until they force me to update. > About any web mail sends in css/plain-text also. > > -- > Brian Berger < bkberger@moorewebs.com > NOTE the NEW address! > Manchester, NH > The use of AOL with my name does not endorse in any way AOL- > Friends don't let friends use AOL! /header snipped/ Received: from xxxxxx@aol.com by imo-d03.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v29.5.) id o.d5.1ddf065 (18251) for ; Sat, 3 Feb 2001 00:48:39 -0500 (EST) From: xxxxxx@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Sat, 3 Feb 2001 00:48:38 EST Subject: Re: [RL] Pool Service To: riolinda@vrx.net MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: 6.0 sub 10506 Sender: owner-riolinda@vrx.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: riolinda@vrx.net X-Mozilla-Status: 8013 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00000000 X-UIDL: Thanks Walt! Jeff Jay: How's things with my AOL 6.0 Responses? :) >From the Rio Linda mailing list From majordomo-users-owner Sat Feb 3 10:39:03 2001 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-980720-1) id KAA29732; Sat, 3 Feb 2001 10:32:03 -0800 (PST) Received: from mtiwmhc21.worldnet.att.net (mtiwmhc21.worldnet.att.net [204.127.131.46]) by honor.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id EAA0617E8C for ; Sat, 3 Feb 2001 10:31:55 -0800 (PST) Received: from att.net ([12.72.205.144]) by mtiwmhc21.worldnet.att.net (InterMail vM.4.01.03.10 201-229-121-110) with ESMTP id <20010203183155.HTN29407.mtiwmhc21.worldnet.att.net@att.net> for ; Sat, 3 Feb 2001 18:31:55 +0000 Message-ID: <3A7C4EED.2CE11AAF@att.net> Date: Sat, 03 Feb 2001 10:33:17 -0800 From: "Jay O'Brien" X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: majordomo-users Subject: AOL V 6.0 plain text: web page Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk FYI: http://jay.mbz.org/aol It's all there. Whew. Jay O'Brien From majordomo-users-owner Sat Feb 3 13:52:50 2001 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-980720-1) id NAA01410; Sat, 3 Feb 2001 13:43:02 -0800 (PST) Received: from esson.net (unknown [216.102.129.43]) by honor.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D786517E8C for ; Sat, 3 Feb 2001 13:42:50 -0800 (PST) Received: from eds.wrenkasky.com (eds.wrenkasky.com [10.10.10.11]) by esson.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA25335; Sat, 3 Feb 2001 13:42:36 -0800 Message-Id: <4.3.2.7.2.20010203133946.00b57848@pop.primenet.com> X-Sender: edkasky@pop.primenet.com (Unverified) X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 4.3.2 Date: Sat, 03 Feb 2001 13:42:35 -0800 To: "Jay O'Brien" , majordomo-users From: Ed Kasky Subject: Re: AOL V 6.0 plain text: web page In-Reply-To: <3A7C4EED.2CE11AAF@att.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk Jay - Thanks for your efforts on this. It has been my experience though that for the most part, if one is using aol, one is not really going to understand what a font is let alone go through all the steps necessary to accomplish the feat. I looked at it this way, if I used the taboo headers in majordomo, their email bounced and they were excluded from participating in the list. Now some would say that if they don't know the difference between html and plain text they shouldn't own a computer. I have my own feelings on this but have come to accept the fact that pc's are becoming standard household appliances. With that in mind and given the general level of expertise of the average user, I thought it best to fix it on my end. The thought of trying to teach all those users how to format their email in plain text became an absurd proposition..... Now on to bigger and better things - like how to enjoy the 80 degree weather we're having today ;-) At 10:33 AM Saturday, 2/3/2001, Jay O'Brien wrote -=> >FYI: > >http://jay.mbz.org/aol > >It's all there. Whew. > >Jay O'Brien Ed Kasky Los Angeles, CA . . . . . . . . I don't compare 'em. I just catch 'em. -- Willie Mays From majordomo-users-owner Sat Feb 3 15:22:50 2001 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-980720-1) id PAA02175; Sat, 3 Feb 2001 15:10:24 -0800 (PST) Received: from sonny.org (unknown [205.217.137.8]) by honor.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id EA0AC17E8B for ; Sat, 3 Feb 2001 15:10:14 -0800 (PST) Received: from netscape.com (daniel.sonny.org [205.217.137.65]) by sonny.org (8.8.8/8.8.3) with ESMTP id RAA02941; Sat, 3 Feb 2001 17:10:09 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <3A7C8FD0.88213FAA@netscape.com> Date: Sat, 03 Feb 2001 17:10:08 -0600 From: "D. Liston" Organization: iPlanet E-Commerce Solutions, A Sun Netscape Alliance X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.75 [en] (X11; U; Linux 2.2.16-3 i686) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: transfer@iwec.com Cc: majordomo-users@greatcircle.com Subject: Re: Install Issues (Permissions) References: <00d301c08d76$fc6f8c00$1cdcd4cf@WCGI> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk I think you might be reading the wrong FAQ. http://www.sendmail.org/faq/section3.html#3.32 has good information about permissions imposed by sendmail. > transfer@iwec.com wrote: > > Major Users, > > I am getting the following errors when trying to send mail thorugh a list file "test". > > The original message was received at Fri, 2 Feb 2001 17:43:02 -0500 > from majordom@localhost > > ----- The following addresses had permanent fatal errors ----- > :include:/home/majordom/lists/test > (expanded from: test-outgoing) > > ----- Transcript of session follows ----- > 550 5.2.4 :include:/home/majordom/lists/test... Cannot open > /home/majordom/lists/test: Permission denied > The list files have permission 664 > The directories majordom and lists are set to 750 > majordom is set to group daemon and group ownership on the directories is majordom.daemon > The aliases are set up like they are in the INstall directions. > I added a symbolic link in the smrsh folder to wrapper > > The FAQ tells me that when I get this error my permissions are to strict yet the Install tells me to set the permissions to what I have above? > > I am using sendmail on redhat linux 7.2. I must be missing something simple? > > Thanks-In-Advance, > > Mark Sprenger From majordomo-users-owner Sat Feb 3 15:52:50 2001 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-980720-1) id PAA02352; Sat, 3 Feb 2001 15:35:09 -0800 (PST) Received: from sonny.org (unknown [205.217.137.8]) by honor.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4F0CC17E8B for ; Sat, 3 Feb 2001 15:35:00 -0800 (PST) Received: from netscape.com (daniel.sonny.org [205.217.137.65]) by sonny.org (8.8.8/8.8.3) with ESMTP id RAA02985; Sat, 3 Feb 2001 17:34:59 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <3A7C95A2.4A140E2C@netscape.com> Date: Sat, 03 Feb 2001 17:34:58 -0600 From: "D. Liston" Organization: iPlanet E-Commerce Solutions, A Sun Netscape Alliance X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.75 [en] (X11; U; Linux 2.2.16-3 i686) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "Anderson, Bill" Cc: Majordomo Users Subject: Re: Different "From" References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk No, this will not work. The sender is always appended with the resend_host value, or the $whereami value if resend_host is blank. Having spaces also throws off what you would expect to happen. "Notices of the day" is better placed in a subject header than a from header IMHO anyway. Now, if notd is in your password file as a user, and instead of a person's name the line contains the "Notices of the day" comment, sendmail will/can use the value of the GECOS field as part of the sender address. Dan Liston "Anderson, Bill" wrote: > > This is just an idea. I don't know if it will work. Perhaps Dan and others > can say if it is a viable solution. > > Perhaps in your notd.config file, you could set the sender = line to > something like: > > Notices of this day > > Maybe this would work. > > -----Original Message----- > From: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM > [mailto:majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM]On Behalf Of > julio.prada@bt.es > Sent: Friday, February 02, 2001 1:43 AM > To: majordomo-users@GreatCircle.COM > Subject: Different "From" > > hi all, > > I sent messages to subscribers and they receive > > From: notd@amtp.notd.net > > it's possible to change this for something more descriptive like: > > From: Notices of this day > > how can I do this? > > rhanks and regards, > jules > ********************************************** > Noticia legal > Este mensaje electrónico contiene información de BT Telecomunicaciones S.A. > que es privada y confidencial, siendo para el uso exclusivo de la persona(s) > o entidades arriba mencionadas. Si usted no es el destinatario señalado, le > informamos que cualquier divulgación, copia, distribución o uso de los > contenidos está prohibida. Si usted ha recibido este mensaje por error, por > favor borre su contenido y comuníquenoslo en la dirección postmaster@bt.es. > Gracias From majordomo-users-owner Sat Feb 3 17:52:51 2001 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-980720-1) id RAA03304; Sat, 3 Feb 2001 17:42:28 -0800 (PST) Received: from mailhost.mis.net (mailhost.mis.net [204.68.227.104]) by honor.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id EA0E817E8B for ; Sat, 3 Feb 2001 17:42:18 -0800 (PST) Received: from [206.28.53.29] (modem-pool-791.mis.net [206.28.53.29]) by mailhost.mis.net (8.11.0/8.11.0) with ESMTP id f141g5O17916 for ; Sat, 3 Feb 2001 20:42:05 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Sender: brewerd@pop.mikrotec.com Message-Id: X-Setting-Eudora: 624=y Date: Sat, 3 Feb 2001 20:42:07 -0500 To: Majordomo-users@GreatCircle.COM From: Doug Brewer Subject: spam filters Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk Hi, troops. Seems my list has started tripping spam filters again. First time was the x-authentication problem. Solved that by making mj a trusted user. But now I'm seeing it again, messages returned with this explanation: "554 Your message has been returned by our UCE/spam filter. (#5.7.1)" I have a feeling this may be a volume issue, but I'm not certain. Any clues? Thanks, Doug -- Douglas Forrest Brewer Ashwood Lake Photography doug@alphoto.com http://www.alphoto.com From majordomo-users-owner Sat Feb 3 18:37:55 2001 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-980720-1) id SAA03746; Sat, 3 Feb 2001 18:31:27 -0800 (PST) Received: from arm.mrball.net (mrball.net [209.85.130.137]) by honor.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id EB58717E8B for ; Sat, 3 Feb 2001 18:31:21 -0800 (PST) Received: from mrball.net (todd.mrball.net [192.168.18.3]) by arm.mrball.net (8.11.2/8.11.2) with ESMTP id f142VLC03436 for ; Sat, 3 Feb 2001 18:31:21 -0800 Message-ID: <3A7CBEF6.B42CD4ED@mrball.net> Date: Sat, 03 Feb 2001 18:31:18 -0800 From: Todd Lyons X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (X11; U; Linux 2.2.14-zip i586) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Majordomo Users Subject: Re: Install Issues (Permissions) References: <00d301c08d76$fc6f8c00$1cdcd4cf@WCGI> <3A7C8FD0.88213FAA@netscape.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk "D. Liston" wrote: > > transfer@iwec.com wrote: > > I am using sendmail on redhat linux 7.2. I must be missing something I just caught this (after reading it more than once). To the original author, do you mean RedHat 7.0 or Mandrake 7.2? Their sendmail configurations are slightly different, but I honestly can't say if they are different enough to cause the error messages that you are seeing. -- Blue skies... Todd | Get a bigger hammer! | Proponents of MIME in general e-mail | | http://www.mrball.net | can go multipart/encrypt themselves. | | http://faq.mrball.net | --Rick Moen | From majordomo-users-owner Sat Feb 3 20:37:53 2001 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-980720-1) id UAA04725; Sat, 3 Feb 2001 20:34:16 -0800 (PST) Received: from arm.mrball.net (mrball.net [209.85.130.137]) by honor.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0FBE917E8B for ; Sat, 3 Feb 2001 20:34:11 -0800 (PST) Received: from mrball.net (todd.mrball.net [192.168.18.3]) by arm.mrball.net (8.11.2/8.11.2) with ESMTP id f144Y8C03823; Sat, 3 Feb 2001 20:34:08 -0800 Message-ID: <3A7CDBBE.705A2271@mrball.net> Date: Sat, 03 Feb 2001 20:34:06 -0800 From: Todd Lyons X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (X11; U; Linux 2.2.14-zip i586) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Doug Brewer , Majordomo Users Subject: Re: spam filters References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk Doug Brewer wrote: > Seems my list has started tripping spam filters again. First time was the x-authentication problem. Solved that by making mj a trusted user. > But now I'm seeing it again, messages returned with this explanation: > "554 Your message has been returned by our UCE/spam filter. (#5.7.1)" It's not an RBL error as far as I can tell. What host is it you're sending it to? > I have a feeling this may be a volume issue, but I'm not certain. Any clues? Very well could be volume. I don't recall, are you running bulk_mailer or just :include:/path/to/list? Post the entire message header that it (hopefully) sent back to you showing what it didn't like. -- Blue skies... Todd | Get a bigger hammer! | Proponents of MIME in general e-mail | | http://www.mrball.net | can go multipart/encrypt themselves. | | http://faq.mrball.net | --Rick Moen | From majordomo-users-owner Sat Feb 3 21:37:53 2001 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-980720-1) id VAA05225; Sat, 3 Feb 2001 21:31:45 -0800 (PST) Received: from mailhost.mis.net (mailhost.mis.net [204.68.227.104]) by honor.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 58C4D17E8B for ; Sat, 3 Feb 2001 21:31:36 -0800 (PST) Received: from [206.28.53.29] (modem-pool-791.mis.net [206.28.53.29]) by mailhost.mis.net (8.11.0/8.11.0) with ESMTP id f145VEO27868; Sun, 4 Feb 2001 00:31:14 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Sender: brewerd@pop.mikrotec.com Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <3A7CDBBE.705A2271@mrball.net> References: <3A7CDBBE.705A2271@mrball.net> X-Setting-Eudora: 624=y Date: Sun, 4 Feb 2001 00:31:02 -0500 To: Todd Lyons , Majordomo Users From: Doug Brewer Subject: Re: spam filters Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk Todd, I'm not running bulk_mailer. Follows is the text I received: ----- Transcript of session follows ----- Receiving 24 ... while talking to inbound.mireles.com.criticalpath.net.: >>> DATA <<< 554 Your message has been returned by our UCE/spam filter. (#5.7.1) 554 delano@mireles.com ... Service unavailable ... while talking to inbound.blakely.com.criticalpath.net.: >>> DATA <<< 554 Your message has been returned by our UCE/spam filter. (#5.7.1) 554 Bob@Blakely.com ... Service unavailable ... while talking to inbound.scienceteachers.com.criticalpath.net.: >>> DATA <<< 554 Your message has been returned by our UCE/spam filter. (#5.7.1) 554 wmkane@scienceteachers.com ... Service unavailable ... while talking to smtp-gw-2.msn.com.: >>> EHLO noc002.aitg.com <<< 451 Timeout waiting for client input ... while talking to v1.atlas.cz.: >>> QUIT <<< 421-Version: 5.5.1877.357.35 Service not available, closing transmission channel 451 canislupus@atlas.cz ... reply: read error from v1.atlas.cz. buddha@operamail.com ... Deferred: Connection timed out with operamail.com. ... while talking to inbound.peoplepc.com.criticalpath.net.: >>> DATA <<< 554 Your message has been returned by our UCE/spam filter. (#5.7.1) 554 kwaller@peoplepc.com ... Service unavailable ... while talking to inbound.abbott-pcs.com.criticalpath.net.: >>> EHLO noc002.aitg.com <<< 451 timeout (#4.4.2) alan@abbott-pcs.com ... Deferred: Connection reset by inbound.abbott-pcs.com.criticalpath.net. mtomik@transprojekt.com.pl... Deferred: Connection refused by lion.transprojekt.krakow.pl. joe@wavemetrics.com... Deferred: Connection timed out with mx9.smtp.psi.net. Reporting-MTA: dns; noc002.aitg.com Arrival-Date: Sat, 3 Feb 2001 19:06:11 -0500 (EST) Final-Recipient: RFC822; majordomo@noc002.aitg.com X-Actual-Recipient: RFC822; delano@mireles.com Action: failed Status: 5.0.0 Remote-MTA: DNS; inbound.mireles.com.criticalpath.net Diagnostic-Code: SMTP; 554 Your message has been returned by our UCE/spam filter. (#5.7.1) Last-Attempt-Date: Sat, 3 Feb 2001 19:07:41 -0500 (EST) Final-Recipient: RFC822; majordomo@noc002.aitg.com X-Actual-Recipient: RFC822; Bob@Blakely.com Action: failed Status: 5.0.0 Remote-MTA: DNS; inbound.blakely.com.criticalpath.net Diagnostic-Code: SMTP; 554 Your message has been returned by our UCE/spam filter. (#5.7.1) Last-Attempt-Date: Sat, 3 Feb 2001 19:07:42 -0500 (EST) Final-Recipient: RFC822; majordomo@noc002.aitg.com X-Actual-Recipient: RFC822; wmkane@scienceteachers.com Action: failed Status: 5.0.0 Remote-MTA: DNS; inbound.scienceteachers.com.criticalpath.net Diagnostic-Code: SMTP; 554 Your message has been returned by our UCE/spam filter. (#5.7.1) Last-Attempt-Date: Sat, 3 Feb 2001 19:11:41 -0500 (EST) Final-Recipient: RFC822; majordomo@noc002.aitg.com X-Actual-Recipient: RFC822; kwaller@peoplepc.com Action: failed Status: 5.0.0 Remote-MTA: DNS; inbound.peoplepc.com.criticalpath.net Diagnostic-Code: SMTP; 554 Your message has been returned by our UCE/spam filter. (#5.7.1) Last-Attempt-Date: Sat, 3 Feb 2001 19:33:58 -0500 (EST) ---- Odd that every address has "criticalpath.net" attached to it. Is this normal? Perplexed, Doug -- Douglas Forrest Brewer Ashwood Lake Photography doug@alphoto.com http://www.alphoto.com From majordomo-users-owner Sat Feb 3 22:08:02 2001 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-980720-1) id VAA05397; Sat, 3 Feb 2001 21:56:27 -0800 (PST) Received: from arm.mrball.net (mrball.net [209.85.130.137]) by honor.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C2FC917E8B for ; Sat, 3 Feb 2001 21:56:21 -0800 (PST) Received: from mrball.net (todd.mrball.net [192.168.18.3]) by arm.mrball.net (8.11.2/8.11.2) with ESMTP id f145uKC04000; Sat, 3 Feb 2001 21:56:20 -0800 Message-ID: <3A7CEF02.3F05AEEF@mrball.net> Date: Sat, 03 Feb 2001 21:56:18 -0800 From: Todd Lyons X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (X11; U; Linux 2.2.14-zip i586) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Doug Brewer Cc: Majordomo Users Subject: Re: spam filters References: <3A7CDBBE.705A2271@mrball.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk Doug Brewer wrote: > I'm not running bulk_mailer. Follows is the text I received: Unsure if that has anything to do with these error messages. > Remote-MTA: DNS; inbound.peoplepc.com.criticalpath.net > Diagnostic-Code: SMTP; 554 Your message has been returned by our UCE/spam filter. (#5.7.1) > Odd that every address has "criticalpath.net" attached to it. Is this normal? It seems that these companies have spam filters in place that are looking at something in your outgoing headers. I'm resubscribing to your list to see if there's something that this can be attributed to. I also looked around with google and found that 5.7.1 is a required error message when you're bouncing UCE (Unsolicited Commercial Email). This is the crux of the matter for you. Your email is not unsolicited. I suspect a header problem. -- Blue skies... Todd | Get a bigger hammer! | Proponents of MIME in general e-mail | | http://www.mrball.net | can go multipart/encrypt themselves. | | http://faq.mrball.net | --Rick Moen | From majordomo-users-owner Sat Feb 3 23:37:54 2001 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-980720-1) id XAA06097; Sat, 3 Feb 2001 23:29:53 -0800 (PST) Received: from arm.mrball.net (mrball.net [209.85.130.137]) by honor.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8749D17E8B for ; Sat, 3 Feb 2001 23:29:47 -0800 (PST) Received: from mrball.net (todd.mrball.net [192.168.18.3]) by arm.mrball.net (8.11.2/8.11.2) with ESMTP id f147TkC04244; Sat, 3 Feb 2001 23:29:46 -0800 Message-ID: <3A7D04E8.1916C888@mrball.net> Date: Sat, 03 Feb 2001 23:29:44 -0800 From: Todd Lyons X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (X11; U; Linux 2.2.14-zip i586) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Doug Brewer Cc: Majordomo Users Subject: Re: spam filters References: <3A7CDBBE.705A2271@mrball.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk Doug Brewer wrote: > Diagnostic-Code: SMTP; 554 Your message has been returned by our UCE/spam filter. (#5.7.1) In your listname.config file, comment the line that sets precedence to bulk and see what happens. -- Blue skies... Todd | Get a bigger hammer! | Proponents of MIME in general e-mail | | http://www.mrball.net | can go multipart/encrypt themselves. | | http://faq.mrball.net | --Rick Moen | From majordomo-users-owner Sat Feb 3 23:52:55 2001 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-980720-1) id XAA06158; Sat, 3 Feb 2001 23:37:36 -0800 (PST) Received: from reality.math.luc.edu (acm.math.luc.edu [147.126.2.131]) by honor.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 83AD117E8B for ; Sat, 3 Feb 2001 23:37:29 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (rcupr@localhost) by reality.math.luc.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id BAA32561 for ; Sun, 4 Feb 2001 01:27:17 -0600 Date: Sun, 4 Feb 2001 01:27:17 -0600 (CST) From: Ryan Cuprak To: Majordomo Users Subject: Setting it so that user gets a copy of their message. In-Reply-To: <3A7CBEF6.B42CD4ED@mrball.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk I just got majordomo install but in testing my setup I discovered that the person who sends a message to the list does not get a copy of their message. from the aliases file: test: :include:/usr/local/majordomo-1.94.5/lists/test owner-test: rcupr@reality.math.luc.edu, test-request: "|/usr/local/majordomo-1.94.5/wrapper request-answer test" test-approval: rcupr@reality.math.luc.edu I manually added another email account of mine to the /lists/test file and then sent a test email to the 'test' mailing list. (any other email addresses in the 'test' file get the message). Thanks, Ryan Cuprak ========================================================================== | Ryan Cuprak | | rcuprak@acm.org | | Home Ph: (860)-742-5561 46 Prospect St. Coventry CT 06238 | | College Ph: (773)-973-9661 1400 W. Devon Ave. PMB 271 Chicago, IL 60660| ========================================================================== From majordomo-users-owner Sun Feb 4 03:52:58 2001 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-980720-1) id DAA11184; Sun, 4 Feb 2001 03:48:11 -0800 (PST) Received: from sulphur.cix.co.uk (sulphur.cix.co.uk [212.35.225.149]) by honor.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8780E17EB8 for ; Sun, 4 Feb 2001 03:47:56 -0800 (PST) Received: from mesh--computer (5300-tele-2-cluster.66.ip-pool.cix.co.uk [194.153.25.66]) by sulphur.cix.co.uk (8.11.2/CIX/8.11.2) with SMTP id f14BlhD29979 for ; Sun, 4 Feb 2001 11:47:43 GMT X-Envelope-From: mwinnett@satchmo.win-uk.net Message-ID: <002201c08ea0$8d0c29b0$0101a8c0@mesh--computer> From: "Mike Winnett" To: "majordomo-users" Subject: A few majordomo queries Date: Sun, 4 Feb 2001 11:39:34 -0000 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.2106.4 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk I'm having some trouble with my digest numbering. For some reason the digests started with volume V1 #1 and they go up in numbers, but repeat themselves, so I have 3 volume V1 #7's for example. I am not the domo-owner but the list owner, is there a way to sort this out? ============================================== I can set taboo-headers to stop certain users from posting to the list, but how do I stop them from _receiving_ list posts, in other words, is there a way to stop certain people subscribing? ===================================== regards tia mw http://www,satchmo.win-uk.net/arsehome From majordomo-users-owner Sun Feb 4 04:07:57 2001 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-980720-1) id DAA11183; Sun, 4 Feb 2001 03:48:02 -0800 (PST) Received: from sulphur.cix.co.uk (sulphur.cix.co.uk [212.35.225.149]) by honor.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1F37417E8B for ; Sun, 4 Feb 2001 03:47:48 -0800 (PST) Received: from mesh--computer (5300-tele-2-cluster.66.ip-pool.cix.co.uk [194.153.25.66]) by sulphur.cix.co.uk (8.11.2/CIX/8.11.2) with SMTP id f14BliD29989 for ; Sun, 4 Feb 2001 11:47:44 GMT X-Envelope-From: mwinnett@satchmo.win-uk.net Message-ID: <002301c08ea0$8db8bd60$0101a8c0@mesh--computer> From: "Mike Winnett" To: "majordomo-users" Subject: majordomo command html page Date: Sun, 4 Feb 2001 11:47:46 -0000 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.2106.4 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk I wrote some html pages to send off majordomo commands for maintianing my own lists , Dan Liston thought this might be of use to some of the less experienced list-owners (like me!) Dan has modified some of my html to make it more generic, I hope you find it useful, please feel free to copy and distribute for any non-profit use. You just need to copy and paste the code into any plain text editor (like notepad) and save as a html file, and open it in your browser, (I use netscape communicator.) ===================================CUT HERE>>> MAJORDOMO LIST COMMAND PAGE

USER/OWNER SUB/UNSUB

USER SUB listname(-digest)
OWNER SUB listname(-digest)

WHO OPEN/CLOSED

OPEN WHO listname(-digest)
CLOSED WHO listname(-digest)

READ/WRITE TEXTFILES

GET listname(-digest) INFO
PUT listname(-digest) INFO
GET listname(-digest) INTRO
PUT listname(-digest) INTRO
GET listname(-digest) CONFIG
PUT listname(-digest) CONFIG
UPDATE listname(-digest) CONFIG
CHANGE listname(-digest) PASSWD

DIGEST

FORCE A DIGEST

POST

POST to listname (a digest is never posted to)
APPROVE POST to listname

, this html written by Mike Winnett to simplify majordomo list maintenance.
From majordomo-users-owner Sun Feb 4 06:22:57 2001 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-980720-1) id GAA12267; Sun, 4 Feb 2001 06:18:06 -0800 (PST) Received: from arm.mrball.net (mrball.net [209.85.130.137]) by honor.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4732217E8B for ; Sun, 4 Feb 2001 06:17:59 -0800 (PST) Received: from mrball.net (todd.mrball.net [192.168.18.3]) by arm.mrball.net (8.11.2/8.11.2) with ESMTP id f14EHuC04976; Sun, 4 Feb 2001 06:17:56 -0800 Message-ID: <3A7D6494.87BDBC41@mrball.net> Date: Sun, 04 Feb 2001 06:17:56 -0800 From: Todd Lyons X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (X11; U; Linux 2.2.14-zip i586) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Ryan Cuprak Cc: Majordomo Users Subject: Re: Setting it so that user gets a copy of their message. References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk Ryan Cuprak wrote: > the person who sends a message to the list does not get a copy of their > message. > I manually added another email account of mine to the /lists/test file and > then sent a test email to the 'test' mailing list. (any other email > addresses in the 'test' file get the message). Hmmm, I was about to say to look for the line below, but the FAQ says that MeToo won't do this after it's piped to a program. I think we'll need more info. # send to me too, even in an alias expansion? #O MeToo=True -- Blue skies... Todd | Get a bigger hammer! | Proponents of MIME in general e-mail | | http://www.mrball.net | can go multipart/encrypt themselves. | | http://faq.mrball.net | --Rick Moen | From majordomo-users-owner Sun Feb 4 19:56:54 2001 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-980720-1) id TAA18777; Sun, 4 Feb 2001 19:35:56 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail.bcpl.net (mail.bcpl.net [204.255.212.10]) by honor.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id AC42F17E8B for ; Sun, 4 Feb 2001 19:35:50 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (fold@localhost) by mail.bcpl.net (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id WAA08712 for ; Sun, 4 Feb 2001 22:35:50 -0500 (EST) Date: Sun, 4 Feb 2001 22:35:50 -0500 (EST) From: Chip Old To: Majordomo Users Subject: Re: spam filters In-Reply-To: Message-ID: X-Organization: BCPL.NET Internet Services MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk Doug, A bit of work with nslookup on all those domains that have "criticalpath.net" appended in the session transcript provides part of the answer. That same "inbound.domain.name.criticalpath.net" format is used in their MX records. In other words, the MX for mireles.com is inbound.mireles.com.criticalpath.net, the MX for blakely.com is inbound.blakely.com.criticalpath.net, and so on. Critical Path is a company that among other things provides secure e-mail services for businesses. Apparently Critical Path provides MX service for the business, accepting all mail bound for the business, filtering it in various ways, then sending it on to the company's real mail server. My guess is that one of the filtering services Critical Path provides is spam filtering, and that for some reason their filter is seeing mail from your list as spam. It's impossible to say why without seeing a few sample list messages with full headers. One thing you might want to try: By default, Majordomo adds a "Precedence: bulk" line to the header. That is controlled by an entry in your list.conf file. Edit that line in list.conf to change the precedence to "list". Then send a test message to the list and see if Critical Path's filters still reject the message. On Sun, 4 Feb 2001, Doug Brewer wrote: > Follows is the text I received: > > ----- Transcript of session follows ----- > Receiving 24 > ... while talking to inbound.mireles.com.criticalpath.net.: > >>> DATA > <<< 554 Your message has been returned by our UCE/spam filter. (#5.7.1) > 554 delano@mireles.com ... Service unavailable > ... while talking to inbound.blakely.com.criticalpath.net.: > >>> DATA > <<< 554 Your message has been returned by our UCE/spam filter. (#5.7.1) > 554 Bob@Blakely.com ... Service unavailable > ... while talking to inbound.scienceteachers.com.criticalpath.net.: > >>> DATA > <<< 554 Your message has been returned by our UCE/spam filter. (#5.7.1) > 554 wmkane@scienceteachers.com ... Service unavailable > ... while talking to smtp-gw-2.msn.com.: > >>> EHLO noc002.aitg.com > <<< 451 Timeout waiting for client input > ... while talking to v1.atlas.cz.: > >>> QUIT > <<< 421-Version: 5.5.1877.357.35 Service not available, closing transmission channel > 451 canislupus@atlas.cz ... reply: read error from v1.atlas.cz. > buddha@operamail.com ... Deferred: Connection timed out with operamail.com. > ... while talking to inbound.peoplepc.com.criticalpath.net.: > >>> DATA > <<< 554 Your message has been returned by our UCE/spam filter. (#5.7.1) > 554 kwaller@peoplepc.com ... Service unavailable > ... while talking to inbound.abbott-pcs.com.criticalpath.net.: > >>> EHLO noc002.aitg.com > <<< 451 timeout (#4.4.2) > alan@abbott-pcs.com ... Deferred: Connection reset by inbound.abbott-pcs.com.criticalpath.net. > mtomik@transprojekt.com.pl... Deferred: Connection refused by lion.transprojekt.krakow.pl. > joe@wavemetrics.com... Deferred: Connection timed out with mx9.smtp.psi.net. > > Odd that every address has "criticalpath.net" attached to it. Is this > normal? > > Perplexed, > > Doug -- Chip Old (Francis E. Old) E-Mail: fold@bcpl.net Manager, BCPL Network Services Voice: 410-887-6180 Manager, BCPL.NET Internet Services FAX: 410-887-2091 Baltimore County Public Library ICBM: 39.39910 N 320 York Road 76.60300 W Towson, Maryland 21204 U.S.A. From majordomo-users-owner Sun Feb 4 22:41:57 2001 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-980720-1) id WAA20143; Sun, 4 Feb 2001 22:20:31 -0800 (PST) Received: from reality.math.luc.edu (acm.math.luc.edu [147.126.2.131]) by honor.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E45C617E8B for ; Sun, 4 Feb 2001 22:20:17 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (rcupr@localhost) by reality.math.luc.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id AAA01203; Mon, 5 Feb 2001 00:09:56 -0600 Date: Mon, 5 Feb 2001 00:09:56 -0600 (CST) From: Ryan Cuprak To: Ed Kasky Cc: majordomo-users@GreatCircle.COM Subject: Re: Setting it so that user gets a copy of their message. In-Reply-To: <4.3.2.7.2.20010204092842.00b47100@pop.primenet.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk I'm using sendmail and slackware linux. I tried pasting the lines you sent me and got the following response: (note, nothing appears in majordomo's Log file). I have checked, the permissions are all the same as those described on http://www.sendmail.org/faq/section3.html#3.32. Thanks, Ryan Cuprak ------------------------------------------------------- >From MAILER-DAEMON@reality.math.luc.edu Mon Feb 5 00:01:12 2001 Date: Sun, 4 Feb 2001 23:59:38 -0600 From: Mail Delivery Subsystem To: owner-test@reality.math.luc.edu Subject: Returned mail: Can't create output: Permission denied The original message was received at Sun, 4 Feb 2001 23:59:37 -0600 from rcupr@localhost ----- The following addresses had permanent fatal errors ----- "/usr/local/majordomo-1.94.5/wrapper resend -l test test-list,nobody" (expanded from: ) [ Part 2: "Delivery Status" ] Reporting-MTA: dns; reality.math.luc.edu Arrival-Date: Sun, 4 Feb 2001 23:59:37 -0600 Final-Recipient: RFC822; X-Actual-Recipient: RFC822; "/usr/local/majordomo-1.94.5/wrapper resend -l test test-list,nobody"@reality.math.luc.edu Action: failed Status: 5.0.0 Last-Attempt-Date: Sun, 4 Feb 2001 23:59:38 -0600 [ Part 3: "Included Message" ] Date: Sun, 4 Feb 2001 23:59:37 -0600 (CST) From: Ryan Cuprak To: test@acm.math.luc.edu Subject: testing 102 testing 102 ========================================================================== | Ryan Cuprak | | rcuprak@acm.org | | Home Ph: (860)-742-5561 46 Prospect St. Coventry CT 06238 | | College Ph: (773)-973-9661 1400 W. Devon Ave. PMB 271 Chicago, IL 60660| ========================================================================== ========================================================================== | Ryan Cuprak | | rcuprak@acm.org | | Home Ph: (860)-742-5561 46 Prospect St. Coventry CT 06238 | | College Ph: (773)-973-9661 1400 W. Devon Ave. PMB 271 Chicago, IL 60660| ========================================================================== On Sun, 4 Feb 2001, Ed Kasky wrote: > Ryan - > > What MTA and OS are you using? > > From the MD faq: > 4.10 - How do I set it up so that the originator of a message doesn't get a > copy of his/her own message back? > You can't. Sorry. The "metoo" setting in sendmail has no effect after a > message is piped through an external program. Unless you're willing to give > up piping messages through "resend", there's no way to stop this. > > It appears from your aliases that you are not using the wrapper. > > Try this: > > test: "/usr/local/majordomo-1.94.5/wrapper resend -l test > test-list,nobody" > test-list: :include:/usr/local/majordomo-1.94.5/lists/test > owner-test: rcupr@reality.math.luc.edu, > test-request: "|/usr/local/majordomo-1.94.5/wrapper request-answer test" > test-approval: rcupr@reality.math.luc.edu > > At 01:27 AM Sunday, 2/4/2001, you wrote -=> > > > I just got majordomo install but in testing my setup I discovered that > >the person who sends a message to the list does not get a copy of their > >message. > > > > from the aliases file: > >test: :include:/usr/local/majordomo-1.94.5/lists/test > >owner-test: rcupr@reality.math.luc.edu, > >test-request: "|/usr/local/majordomo-1.94.5/wrapper request-answer > >test" > >test-approval: rcupr@reality.math.luc.edu > > > >I manually added another email account of mine to the /lists/test file and > >then sent a test email to the 'test' mailing list. (any other email > >addresses in the 'test' file get the message). > > Thanks, > > Ryan Cuprak > > > >========================================================================== > >| Ryan Cuprak | > >| rcuprak@acm.org | > >| Home Ph: (860)-742-5561 46 Prospect St. Coventry CT 06238 | > >| College Ph: (773)-973-9661 1400 W. Devon Ave. PMB 271 Chicago, IL 60660| > >========================================================================== > > Ed Kasky > Los Angeles, CA > . . . . . . . . > From majordomo-users-owner Sun Feb 4 22:56:58 2001 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-980720-1) id WAA20339; Sun, 4 Feb 2001 22:40:16 -0800 (PST) Received: from imail3.digiweb.com (unknown [216.205.134.100]) by honor.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C179D17E8B for ; Sun, 4 Feb 2001 22:40:09 -0800 (PST) Received: from chris [203.101.61.29] by imail3.digiweb.com (SMTPD32-6.00) id A6A642F9010C; Mon, 05 Feb 2001 01:22:30 -0500 Message-Id: <3.0.32.20010205163739.0072eb14@imail.hitsquad.com> X-Sender: chris$hitsquad.com@imail.hitsquad.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0 (32) Date: Mon, 05 Feb 2001 16:37:44 +1000 To: majordomo-users@greatcircle.com From: Christopher James Subject: one to many ?? Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk To all, Does anyone know how to get majordomo to send an email to all of its list subscribers without having to send an email to it ? or is this not possible ? Just want to send a newsletter to all of my subscribers. Chris __________________________________________________________________ Christopher James Trainee System Administrator Hitsquad.com Ltd chris@hitsquad.com PO Box 366, Albion, 4010 AUSTRALIA PH: +61 7 38623346 USA Freecall: 1-877-292-1133 The Musicians Web Center - http://www.hitsquad.com http://www.SharewareMusicMachine.com - http://www.GuitarSite.com http://www.MP3Machine.com - http://www.MusiciansAvailable.com Music Software Weekly | Guitar News Weekly | The MP3 Informer __________________________________________________________________ From majordomo-users-owner Mon Feb 5 00:55:47 2001 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-980720-1) id AAA21386; Mon, 5 Feb 2001 00:41:07 -0800 (PST) Received: from server1.ecodix.com (azphire.com [209.61.188.148]) by honor.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 82ABC17E8B for ; Mon, 5 Feb 2001 00:41:00 -0800 (PST) Received: from zsat1wlaptop05 (slip-32-102-156-217.ca.us.prserv.net [32.102.156.217]) by server1.ecodix.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id CAA16641 for ; Mon, 5 Feb 2001 02:44:30 -0600 Message-ID: <003c01c08f4f$5d0c7620$d99c6620@zsat1wlaptop05> From: "Steele Kennett" To: Subject: Service unavailable Date: Mon, 5 Feb 2001 01:40:57 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0039_01C08F14.AFB163D0" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0039_01C08F14.AFB163D0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable When I try to send commands to majordomo, i get this error as a bounce = back email. ----- Transcript of session follows ----- sh: wrapper not available for sendmail programs 554 "|/usr/local/majordomo/wrapper majordomo"... Service unavailable any help? ------=_NextPart_000_0039_01C08F14.AFB163D0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

When I try to send commands to = majordomo, i get=20 this error as a bounce back email.
 
   ----- Transcript of session follows -----
sh: = wrapper not=20 available for sendmail programs
554 "|/usr/local/majordomo/wrapper=20 majordomo"... Service unavailable
any help?
------=_NextPart_000_0039_01C08F14.AFB163D0-- From majordomo-users-owner Mon Feb 5 01:25:46 2001 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-980720-1) id AAA21471; Mon, 5 Feb 2001 00:51:19 -0800 (PST) Received: from sonny.org (unknown [205.217.137.8]) by honor.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2D5E817E8B for ; Mon, 5 Feb 2001 00:51:12 -0800 (PST) Received: from netscape.com (daniel.sonny.org [205.217.137.65]) by sonny.org (8.8.8/8.8.3) with ESMTP id CAA00796; Mon, 5 Feb 2001 02:51:04 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <3A7E6977.D1C423F@netscape.com> Date: Mon, 05 Feb 2001 02:51:04 -0600 From: "D. Liston" Organization: iPlanet E-Commerce Solutions, A Sun Netscape Alliance X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.75 [en] (X11; U; Linux 2.2.16-3 i686) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: robbs Cc: Majordomo Subject: Re: How Do I References: <3A7ACE02.2010304@rfci.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk Are you the root user when you install? Are you installing from the tar.gz or an rpm package? Create a directory by hand, copy the tar file into that directory, cd to that directory, and untar. Now edit the Makefile for location of perl on your system, the UID and GID of majordomo, and the home directory you assigned when you created the majordomo user. Depending on POSIXness of your system, you should now be able to make and install majordomo. Dan Liston robbs wrote: > > I am having a problem installing majordomo. > Seems that during the un-pack process the tar file is to mkdir and > load the results of the un-pack into that directory. Mind does not > create the directory. > I have down loaded an additional copy; deleted and added back > majordom as a user chmod the user etc. with no results. > Anyone have a comment as to a fix. > Best Regards, Robb From majordomo-users-owner Mon Feb 5 01:40:49 2001 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-980720-1) id BAA21745; Mon, 5 Feb 2001 01:09:06 -0800 (PST) Received: from sonny.org (unknown [205.217.137.8]) by honor.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 24CE917E8B for ; Mon, 5 Feb 2001 01:08:59 -0800 (PST) Received: from netscape.com (daniel.sonny.org [205.217.137.65]) by sonny.org (8.8.8/8.8.3) with ESMTP id DAA00840; Mon, 5 Feb 2001 03:08:48 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <3A7E6D9F.C95B3D14@netscape.com> Date: Mon, 05 Feb 2001 03:08:47 -0600 From: "D. Liston" Organization: iPlanet E-Commerce Solutions, A Sun Netscape Alliance X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.75 [en] (X11; U; Linux 2.2.16-3 i686) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Mike Winnett Cc: majordomo-users Subject: Re: A few majordomo queries References: <002201c08ea0$8d0c29b0$0101a8c0@mesh--computer> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk Mike Winnett wrote: > > I'm having some trouble with my digest numbering. > > For some reason the digests started with volume V1 #1 > > and they go up in numbers, but repeat themselves, so I have 3 volume V1 > #7's for example. > > I am not the domo-owner but the list owner, is there a way to sort this > out? This is something that probably needs to be repaired by the domo owner. There is a line in digest that needs a "sort" added to keep spooled mail digesting in the proper order. If that process hangs, so could your numbering. > > ============================================== > > I can set taboo-headers to stop certain users from posting to the list, > but how do I stop them from _receiving_ list posts, in other words, is > there a way to stop certain people subscribing? Yes, you could configure your list with subscribe_policy = closed. Only those subscribers that you approve will be allowed to subscribe, and as such, only those will receive your list's postings. Dan Liston From majordomo-users-owner Mon Feb 5 02:55:47 2001 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-980720-1) id CAA23614; Mon, 5 Feb 2001 02:42:15 -0800 (PST) Received: from daniel.sonny.org (daniel-1.suxcpe.cableone.net [24.116.56.30]) by honor.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E880D17E8B for ; Mon, 5 Feb 2001 02:42:04 -0800 (PST) Received: from netscape.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by daniel.sonny.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id EAA27547; Mon, 5 Feb 2001 04:41:51 -0600 Message-ID: <3A7E836F.4AA66296@netscape.com> Date: Mon, 05 Feb 2001 04:41:51 -0600 From: "D. Liston" Organization: iPlanet E-Commerce Solutions, A Sun Netscape Alliance X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.75 [en] (X11; U; Linux 2.2.16-3 i686) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Ryan Cuprak Cc: Ed Kasky , majordomo-users@greatcircle.com Subject: Re: Setting it so that user gets a copy of their message. References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk The alias for test is missing a "|" symbol. The correct alias should be; test: "|/usr/local/majordomo-1.94.5/wrapper resend -l test test-list,nobody" Dan Liston Ps. Sorry for posting the entire message again. Ryan Cuprak wrote: > > I'm using sendmail and slackware linux. I tried pasting the lines you > sent me and got the following response: (note, nothing appears in > majordomo's Log file). I have checked, the permissions are all the same as > those described on http://www.sendmail.org/faq/section3.html#3.32. > > Thanks, > Ryan Cuprak > ------------------------------------------------------- > >From MAILER-DAEMON@reality.math.luc.edu Mon Feb 5 00:01:12 2001 > Date: Sun, 4 Feb 2001 23:59:38 -0600 > From: Mail Delivery Subsystem > To: owner-test@reality.math.luc.edu > Subject: Returned mail: Can't create output: Permission denied > > The original message was received at Sun, 4 Feb 2001 23:59:37 -0600 > from rcupr@localhost > > ----- The following addresses had permanent fatal errors ----- > "/usr/local/majordomo-1.94.5/wrapper resend -l test test-list,nobody" > (expanded from: ) > > [ Part 2: "Delivery Status" ] > > Reporting-MTA: dns; reality.math.luc.edu > Arrival-Date: Sun, 4 Feb 2001 23:59:37 -0600 > > Final-Recipient: RFC822; > X-Actual-Recipient: RFC822; "/usr/local/majordomo-1.94.5/wrapper resend -l test test-list,nobody"@reality.math.luc.edu > Action: failed > Status: 5.0.0 > Last-Attempt-Date: Sun, 4 Feb 2001 23:59:38 -0600 > > [ Part 3: "Included Message" ] > > Date: Sun, 4 Feb 2001 23:59:37 -0600 (CST) > From: Ryan Cuprak > To: test@acm.math.luc.edu > Subject: testing 102 > > testing 102 > > ========================================================================== > | Ryan Cuprak | > | rcuprak@acm.org | > | Home Ph: (860)-742-5561 46 Prospect St. Coventry CT 06238 | > | College Ph: (773)-973-9661 1400 W. Devon Ave. PMB 271 Chicago, IL 60660| > ========================================================================== > > ========================================================================== > | Ryan Cuprak | > | rcuprak@acm.org | > | Home Ph: (860)-742-5561 46 Prospect St. Coventry CT 06238 | > | College Ph: (773)-973-9661 1400 W. Devon Ave. PMB 271 Chicago, IL 60660| > ========================================================================== > > On Sun, 4 Feb 2001, Ed Kasky wrote: > > > Ryan - > > > > What MTA and OS are you using? > > > > From the MD faq: > > 4.10 - How do I set it up so that the originator of a message doesn't get a > > copy of his/her own message back? > > You can't. Sorry. The "metoo" setting in sendmail has no effect after a > > message is piped through an external program. Unless you're willing to give > > up piping messages through "resend", there's no way to stop this. > > > > It appears from your aliases that you are not using the wrapper. > > > > Try this: > > > > test: "/usr/local/majordomo-1.94.5/wrapper resend -l test > > test-list,nobody" > > test-list: :include:/usr/local/majordomo-1.94.5/lists/test > > owner-test: rcupr@reality.math.luc.edu, > > test-request: "|/usr/local/majordomo-1.94.5/wrapper request-answer test" > > test-approval: rcupr@reality.math.luc.edu > > > > At 01:27 AM Sunday, 2/4/2001, you wrote -=> > > > > > I just got majordomo install but in testing my setup I discovered that > > >the person who sends a message to the list does not get a copy of their > > >message. > > > > > > from the aliases file: > > >test: :include:/usr/local/majordomo-1.94.5/lists/test > > >owner-test: rcupr@reality.math.luc.edu, > > >test-request: "|/usr/local/majordomo-1.94.5/wrapper request-answer > > >test" > > >test-approval: rcupr@reality.math.luc.edu > > > > > >I manually added another email account of mine to the /lists/test file and > > >then sent a test email to the 'test' mailing list. (any other email > > >addresses in the 'test' file get the message). > > > Thanks, > > > Ryan Cuprak > > > > > >========================================================================== > > >| Ryan Cuprak | > > >| rcuprak@acm.org | > > >| Home Ph: (860)-742-5561 46 Prospect St. Coventry CT 06238 | > > >| College Ph: (773)-973-9661 1400 W. Devon Ave. PMB 271 Chicago, IL 60660| > > >========================================================================== > > > > Ed Kasky > > Los Angeles, CA > > . . . . . . . . > > From majordomo-users-owner Mon Feb 5 03:11:06 2001 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-980720-1) id CAA23719; Mon, 5 Feb 2001 02:50:59 -0800 (PST) Received: from daniel.sonny.org (daniel-1.suxcpe.cableone.net [24.116.56.30]) by honor.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8180317E8B for ; Mon, 5 Feb 2001 02:50:50 -0800 (PST) Received: from netscape.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by daniel.sonny.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id EAA27553; Mon, 5 Feb 2001 04:50:50 -0600 Message-ID: <3A7E858A.5950E9F3@netscape.com> Date: Mon, 05 Feb 2001 04:50:50 -0600 From: "D. Liston" Organization: iPlanet E-Commerce Solutions, A Sun Netscape Alliance X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.75 [en] (X11; U; Linux 2.2.16-3 i686) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Christopher James Cc: majordomo-users@greatcircle.com Subject: Re: one to many ?? References: <3.0.32.20010205163739.0072eb14@imail.hitsquad.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk I'm not sure, but I think you are asking if you can make majordomo send a message to all your lists without having to send a separate email to each list. Is that right? Yes, this can be done, but you run the risk of some people getting multiple copies of the message if they are subscribed to more than one list. The easiest way is to create an alias that expands to each of your listnames. For example, if you have lists called surfers, divers, climbers, and jumpers, your alias would look like this; subscribers: surfers,divers,climbers,jumpers (Remember to run newaliases every time you edit the aliases file.) If you are concerned with security, or someone replying to "subscribers", you can comment it out and re-run newaliases when you are done sending the message. An easier way, would be to create a subscribers list. That way you can control the names of the lists that are subscribed remotely, and you can secure the list with a restrict_post setting, allowing only you to post. Dan Liston Christopher James wrote: > > To all, > > Does anyone know how to get majordomo to send an email to all of its list > subscribers without having to send an email to it ? or is this not possible ? > > Just want to send a newsletter to all of my subscribers. > > Chris From majordomo-users-owner Mon Feb 5 03:40:46 2001 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-980720-1) id DAA25905; Mon, 5 Feb 2001 03:21:56 -0800 (PST) Received: from daniel.sonny.org (daniel-1.suxcpe.cableone.net [24.116.56.30]) by honor.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 59C5B17E8B for ; Mon, 5 Feb 2001 03:21:46 -0800 (PST) Received: from netscape.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by daniel.sonny.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id FAA27606; Mon, 5 Feb 2001 05:21:45 -0600 Message-ID: <3A7E8CC9.5BD16554@netscape.com> Date: Mon, 05 Feb 2001 05:21:45 -0600 From: "D. Liston" Organization: iPlanet E-Commerce Solutions, A Sun Netscape Alliance X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.75 [en] (X11; U; Linux 2.2.16-3 i686) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Steele Kennett Cc: majordomo-users@greatcircle.com Subject: Re: Service unavailable References: <003c01c08f4f$5d0c7620$d99c6620@zsat1wlaptop05> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk > Steele Kennett wrote: > > When I try to send commands to majordomo, i get this error as a bounce back email. > > ----- Transcript of session follows ----- > sh: wrapper not available for sendmail programs > 554 "|/usr/local/majordomo/wrapper majordomo"... Service unavailable > any help? >From the FAQ: 2.11 - I get "sh: wrapper not available for sendmail programs" You're on a system which uses smrsh. (sendmail restricted shell). You have to configure smrsh to allow it to execute the wrapper. Normally this is done by creating a symlink in /var/adm/sm.bin (in some it's /etc/smrsh) to Majordomo's wrapper program. Dan Liston From majordomo-users-owner Mon Feb 5 06:55:55 2001 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-980720-1) id GAA27902; Mon, 5 Feb 2001 06:47:19 -0800 (PST) Received: from arm.mrball.net (mrball.net [209.85.130.137]) by honor.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A42E317E8B for ; Mon, 5 Feb 2001 06:47:14 -0800 (PST) Received: from mrball.net (todd.mrball.net [192.168.18.3]) by arm.mrball.net (8.11.2/8.11.2) with ESMTP id f15EkfC07300; Mon, 5 Feb 2001 06:46:41 -0800 Message-ID: <3A7EBCCE.6E4B90CC@mrball.net> Date: Mon, 05 Feb 2001 06:46:38 -0800 From: Todd Lyons X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (X11; U; Linux 2.2.14-zip i586) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "D. Liston" Cc: Steele Kennett , majordomo-users@GreatCircle.COM Subject: Re: Service unavailable References: <003c01c08f4f$5d0c7620$d99c6620@zsat1wlaptop05> <3A7E8CC9.5BD16554@netscape.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk "D. Liston" wrote: > >From the FAQ: > 2.11 - I get "sh: wrapper not available for sendmail programs" > You're on a system which uses smrsh. (sendmail restricted shell). You have to configure smrsh to allow it to execute the wrapper. Normally this is done by creating a symlink in /var/adm/sm.bin (in some it's /etc/smrsh) to Majordomo's wrapper program. And don't forget that the new sendmail 8.11.2 wants it in /usr/adm/sm.bin. -- Blue skies... Todd | Get a bigger hammer! | Proponents of MIME in general e-mail | | http://www.mrball.net | can go multipart/encrypt themselves. | | http://faq.mrball.net | --Rick Moen | From majordomo-users-owner Mon Feb 5 10:54:31 2001 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-980720-1) id KAA29968; Mon, 5 Feb 2001 10:41:00 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail.lambesis.com (unknown [207.211.73.9]) by honor.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id BD92017E8B for ; Mon, 5 Feb 2001 10:40:51 -0800 (PST) Received: by mail.lambesis.com from localhost (router,SLMail V4.1); Mon, 05 Feb 2001 10:45:23 -0800 for Received: from [207.211.73.32] [207.211.73.32] by mail.lambesis.com [207.211.73.9] (SLmail 4.2.0.3439 (Tesca Nemerosa - Beta 2.2)) with ESMTP id 6C0071C3AE36433CAF4AE05276B6A902 for plus 1 more; Mon, 05 Feb 2001 10:45:20 -0800 Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Sender: jpbuse@mail.lambesis.com Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <3.0.32.20010205163739.0072eb14@imail.hitsquad.com> References: <3.0.32.20010205163739.0072eb14@imail.hitsquad.com> Date: Mon, 5 Feb 2001 10:38:06 -0800 To: Christopher James From: "Jason Buscema" Subject: Re: one to many ?? Cc: majordomo-users@greatcircle.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" X-SLUIDL: 83C3A27C-5C364997-BB9A01AE-6F477915 Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk Not sure exactly what you are trying to do here. Is this a one time thing or recurring? You could write a script to automate this task by having the script send a properly formatted email to the list which would send it out to all list subscribers. >Does anyone know how to get majordomo to send an email to all of its list >subscribers without having to send an email to it ? or is this not possible ? > >Just want to send a newsletter to all of my subscribers. -- ------------- Jason Buscema jbuscema@lambesis.com Lambesis, Inc. 858.794.6444 x245 From majordomo-users-owner Mon Feb 5 12:09:43 2001 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-980720-1) id LAA00816; Mon, 5 Feb 2001 11:50:42 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail5.cinci.rr.com (fe5.rdc-kc.rr.com [24.94.163.52]) by honor.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8130D17E8B for ; Mon, 5 Feb 2001 11:50:37 -0800 (PST) Received: from aptiva ([65.27.169.136]) by mail5.cinci.rr.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1877.537.53); Mon, 5 Feb 2001 13:48:05 -0600 Message-ID: <200102051443590290.0686A0F1@smtp-server> X-Mailer: Email 2000 Version 1.00.00.00 Date: Mon, 05 Feb 2001 14:43:59 -0500 From: "Sharon F." To: majordomo-users@GreatCircle.com Subject: using "bulk" Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk Since so many mailing list programs are blocking headers with "bulk" in= them I wandered if there was a better way to send mailing lists. I've= read the FAQ and such and am still unclear as to the benefits of using, or= not using, the following: # precedence [word] (bulk) # Put a precedence header with value into the outgoing # message. precedence =3D bulk What are the other options and what kinds of trouble do I leave myself open= to if I use them? Thanks! Sharon From majordomo-users-owner Mon Feb 5 12:39:32 2001 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-980720-1) id MAA01229; Mon, 5 Feb 2001 12:21:03 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail.lamere.net (mail.lamere.net [63.88.216.10]) by honor.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7E26D17E8B for ; Mon, 5 Feb 2001 12:20:56 -0800 (PST) Received: from lamere.net (IDENT:root@canon.maurand.com [63.88.217.240]) by mail.lamere.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA02638; Mon, 5 Feb 2001 15:19:52 -0500 Message-ID: <3A7F0AF1.BA1A924C@lamere.net> Date: Mon, 05 Feb 2001 15:20:01 -0500 From: Curtis Maurand Organization: lamere Business Center X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.76 [en] (X11; U; Linux 2.2.16-22 i586) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Daniel Liston Cc: Majordomo-users@GreatCircle.COM Subject: Re: SPAMMING References: <001f01c07ff0$09162a20$1af6cdd4@1> <3A64D24E.86763A30@netscape.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk Hello, I appear to have something else going on. I have post restricted to members of a file, but I appear to be collecting spammers by the dozen. Its not unusual to find 30+ messages in my inbox on mondays. However, when I look at the /usr/local/majordomo/Log file I see: Jan 29 17:13:32 lamere.net majordomo[20213 {jedwards_1@chemie.uni-bremen.de} get started When I run get, I get: "Command disabled." Any ideas? I see a lot of probes using the "help" command. All my lists are set up with restricted posts and I've even disabled the "help" command (not easy, but I found it in the source and renamed the function so that it bombs. I've also had mail send in such a way (and had it bounce) so that it looks like someone is exploiting majordomo. (I'm running 1.94.4) Curtis Daniel Liston wrote: > > Panos Adam wrote: > > > > How can I stop spamming messages coming to my list? > > I do a few things to "help" prevent this, but nothing is > perfect. Spammers keep getting smarter, and new ones pop > up all the time. I will speak to sendmail experience only. > > Use your virtusertable feature to make your delivery alias > an "unknown" user. > > Make sure sendmail has majordomo listed as a trusted user > so you do net get X-authenication headers in your messages. > > Use a name other than -outgoing or -list for your delivery > address. > > Use ",nobody" (,anything really) on the end of your delivery > address so sendmail does not announce your outgoing alias in > the headers of messages. > > Use a procmail filter to identify that the message is To: > or Cc: the exact address of your list. > > Use majordomo's resend tool to enforce settings in your > list's .config file. > > Use your listname.config to set restrict_post to only > specific addresses, or the users of the list. > > Use the header and body filters of majordomo.cf and the > listname.config to catch/bounce known patterns to the > list-owner before they are distributed to the list. > > After all the security checks are done, demime the message > before letting majordomo distribute it. Nothing to do > with spam really, but since so much spam is coming in HTML > format these days, why not? > > Dan Liston From majordomo-users-owner Mon Feb 5 18:54:40 2001 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-980720-1) id SAA05003; Mon, 5 Feb 2001 18:47:08 -0800 (PST) Received: from netscape.com (r2d2.netscape.com [205.217.237.47]) by honor.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id BCEEA17E8B for ; Mon, 5 Feb 2001 18:47:02 -0800 (PST) Received: from judge.mcom.com (judge.mcom.com [205.217.237.53]) by netscape.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with ESMTP id f162l0b18154 for ; Mon, 5 Feb 2001 18:47:00 -0800 (PST) Received: from netscape.com ([205.217.228.180]) by judge.mcom.com (Netscape Messaging Server 4.15) with ESMTP id G8BEED02.GF3; Mon, 5 Feb 2001 18:47:01 -0800 Message-ID: <3A7F6577.9CEB6AF0@netscape.com> Date: Mon, 05 Feb 2001 20:46:15 -0600 From: dliston@netscape.com (Dan Liston) Organization: iPlanet E-Commerce Solutions, a Sun-Netscape Alliance X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.75 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Todd Lyons Cc: Doug Brewer , Majordomo Users Subject: Re: spam filters References: <3A7CDBBE.705A2271@mrball.net> <3A7D04E8.1916C888@mrball.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk I don't think that will work Todd. The default (if I remember right) IS bulk. A better solution would be to set the value to "list" instead of "bulk". Dan Liston Todd Lyons wrote: > > Doug Brewer wrote: > > > Diagnostic-Code: SMTP; 554 Your message has been returned by our UCE/spam filter. (#5.7.1) > > In your listname.config file, comment the line that sets precedence to bulk > and see what happens. From majordomo-users-owner Mon Feb 5 19:10:19 2001 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-980720-1) id SAA04985; Mon, 5 Feb 2001 18:46:04 -0800 (PST) Received: from netscape.com (r2d2.netscape.com [205.217.237.47]) by honor.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B5DED17E8B for ; Mon, 5 Feb 2001 18:45:26 -0800 (PST) Received: from judge.mcom.com (judge.mcom.com [205.217.237.53]) by netscape.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with ESMTP id f162j1b17865 for ; Mon, 5 Feb 2001 18:45:01 -0800 (PST) Received: from netscape.com ([205.217.228.180]) by judge.mcom.com (Netscape Messaging Server 4.15) with ESMTP id G8BEB201.4G7; Mon, 5 Feb 2001 18:45:02 -0800 Message-ID: <3A7F6501.DFBB30B8@netscape.com> Date: Mon, 05 Feb 2001 20:44:17 -0600 From: dliston@netscape.com (Dan Liston) Organization: iPlanet E-Commerce Solutions, a Sun-Netscape Alliance X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.75 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Ryan Cuprak Cc: Majordomo Users Subject: Re: Setting it so that user gets a copy of their message. References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk This is probably because you are sending directly to your delivery address instead of filtering through resend. See what happens if you rename your test: alias to test-delivery: and add this in as the test: alias; test: "|/usr/local/majordomo-1.94.5/wrapper resend -l test test-delivery,nobody" Dan Liston Ryan Cuprak wrote: > > I just got majordomo install but in testing my setup I discovered that > the person who sends a message to the list does not get a copy of their > message. > > from the aliases file: > test: :include:/usr/local/majordomo-1.94.5/lists/test > owner-test: rcupr@reality.math.luc.edu, > test-request: "|/usr/local/majordomo-1.94.5/wrapper request-answer > test" > test-approval: rcupr@reality.math.luc.edu > > I manually added another email account of mine to the /lists/test file and > then sent a test email to the 'test' mailing list. (any other email > addresses in the 'test' file get the message). > Thanks, > Ryan Cuprak > > ========================================================================== > | Ryan Cuprak | > | rcuprak@acm.org | > | Home Ph: (860)-742-5561 46 Prospect St. Coventry CT 06238 | > | College Ph: (773)-973-9661 1400 W. Devon Ave. PMB 271 Chicago, IL 60660| > ========================================================================== From majordomo-users-owner Mon Feb 5 19:24:49 2001 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-980720-1) id TAA05341; Mon, 5 Feb 2001 19:12:18 -0800 (PST) Received: from mailhost.mis.net (mailhost.mis.net [204.68.227.104]) by honor.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6BAE017E8B for ; Mon, 5 Feb 2001 19:12:09 -0800 (PST) Received: from [206.28.58.172] (modem-pool-038.mis.net [206.28.60.38]) by mailhost.mis.net (8.11.0/8.11.0) with ESMTP id f163BhX04468; Mon, 5 Feb 2001 22:11:43 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Sender: brewerd@pop.mikrotec.com Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <3A7D04E8.1916C888@mrball.net> References: <3A7CDBBE.705A2271@mrball.net> <3A7D04E8.1916C888@mrball.net> X-Setting-Eudora: 624=y Date: Mon, 5 Feb 2001 22:10:52 -0500 To: Todd Lyons From: Doug Brewer Subject: Re: spam filters, and again with the _SUBJECTS_ Cc: Majordomo Users Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk I commented out the "bulk" precedence and got back a bunch of 550 relay errors. Following Chip's advice, I've now set it to "list" and we'll see what happens. Thanks, guys. BTW, I still haven't been able to get my digest to display the subjects or the footer. Here's what I've used to try to set the _SUBJECTS_ tag: message_fronter << END - In this issue: - - _SUBJECTS_ - END and the footer info is set up the same way I have the main list set. It works on the main list. Is there something with using the list on the virtual host that I should be looking for? Doug At 11:29 PM -0800 2/3/01, Todd Lyons wrote: > >In your listname.config file, comment the line that sets precedence to bulk >and see what happens. >-- >Blue skies... Todd -- Douglas Forrest Brewer Ashwood Lake Photography doug@alphoto.com http://www.alphoto.com From majordomo-users-owner Mon Feb 5 20:09:45 2001 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-980720-1) id TAA05688; Mon, 5 Feb 2001 19:54:40 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail.bcpl.net (mail.bcpl.net [204.255.212.10]) by honor.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0D5B617E8B for ; Mon, 5 Feb 2001 19:54:34 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (fold@localhost) by mail.bcpl.net (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id WAA09335 for ; Mon, 5 Feb 2001 22:54:33 -0500 (EST) Date: Mon, 5 Feb 2001 22:54:32 -0500 (EST) From: Chip Old To: Majordomo-Users Subject: Re: using "bulk" In-Reply-To: <200102051443590290.0686A0F1@smtp-server> Message-ID: X-Organization: BCPL.NET Internet Services MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk On Mon, 5 Feb 2001, Sharon F. wrote to majordomo-users@GreatCircle.COM: > Since so many mailing list programs are blocking headers with "bulk" > in them I wandered if there was a better way to send mailing lists. > I've read the FAQ and such and am still unclear as to the benefits of > using, or not using, the following: > > # precedence [word] (bulk) > # Put a precedence header with value into the outgoing > # message. > precedence = bulk > > What are the other options and what kinds of trouble do I leave myself > open to if I use them? It isn't mailing list programs (Majordomo, Procmail, listserv, etc) that are blocking messages with "Precedence: bulk" in the headers. The blocking is being done by Mail Transport Agents (Sendmail, etc) at sites where employees are not allowed to pqarticipate in mailing lists, and at sites where anti-spam filters incorrectly assume that "bulk" means spam. The "Precedence:" header is used by the Mail Transport Agent to rank messages by importance when it is processing the mail queue. A standard sendmail.cf recognizes the following Precedence settings: first-class=0 special-delivery=100 list=-30 bulk=-60 junk=-100 The numeric values tell Sendmail how each is ranked, from first-class (normal messages) at 0 through junk mail at -100. Special-delivery (+100) is rarely used. It's possible to create other Precedence labels and use them in your headers, but other MTAs won't understand them. Mailing list messages are usually sent with Precedence set to bulk. If you're having trouble with list messages being rejected by misconfigured spam filters, try setting the precedence to list. That may or may not help, depending on what the filters are using to decide what is spam and what is not. I don't think using Precedence: list will cause any problems. Your MTA will rank list messages as more important than usual in the queue, which may or may not slow down processing of normal first-class mail in the queue, but that shouldn't be a problem unless your mail server is extremely busy or extremely underpowered. Don't go to the extreme of using Precedence: first-class. Most well-mannered autoresponders will ignore bulk and list messages, but will respond to first-class messages. That can cause you some nasty autoresponse loop problems. -- Chip Old (Francis E. Old) E-Mail: fold@bcpl.net Manager, BCPL Network Services Voice: 410-887-6180 Manager, BCPL.NET Internet Services FAX: 410-887-2091 Baltimore County Public Library ICBM: 39.39910 N 320 York Road 76.60300 W Towson, Maryland 21204 U.S.A. From majordomo-users-owner Mon Feb 5 21:09:41 2001 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-980720-1) id UAA06223; Mon, 5 Feb 2001 20:52:26 -0800 (PST) Received: from smoe.org (jane.smoe.org [216.200.102.14]) by honor.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E531617E8B for ; Mon, 5 Feb 2001 20:52:15 -0800 (PST) Received: (from jeffw@localhost) by smoe.org (8.8.7/8.8.7/daemon-mode-jane) id XAA17116 for majordomo-users@GreatCircle.COM; Mon, 5 Feb 2001 23:52:16 -0500 (EST) Date: Mon, 5 Feb 2001 23:52:15 -0500 From: Jeff Wasilko To: majordomo-users@GreatCircle.COM Subject: majordomo 1.94.x with perl 5.6.x? Message-ID: <20010205235215.A16024@jane.smoe.org> Mail-Followup-To: majordomo-users@GreatCircle.COM Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk I'm getting ready to do a upgrade to solaris 8 and as part of cleaning up other cruft was planning to go to perl 5.6. Is anyone running majordomo 1.94.x under perl 5.6 successfully? -jeff From majordomo-users-owner Mon Feb 5 21:24:39 2001 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-980720-1) id VAA06388; Mon, 5 Feb 2001 21:05:05 -0800 (PST) Received: from arm.mrball.net (mrball.net [209.85.130.137]) by honor.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D149A17E8B for ; Mon, 5 Feb 2001 21:04:57 -0800 (PST) Received: from mrball.net (todd.mrball.net [192.168.18.3]) by arm.mrball.net (8.11.2/8.11.2) with ESMTP id f1654OC08797; Mon, 5 Feb 2001 21:04:24 -0800 Message-ID: <3A7F85D5.F7A1E99B@mrball.net> Date: Mon, 05 Feb 2001 21:04:21 -0800 From: Todd Lyons X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (X11; U; Linux 2.2.14-zip i586) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Curtis Maurand Cc: Daniel Liston , Majordomo-users@GreatCircle.COM Subject: Re: SPAMMING References: <001f01c07ff0$09162a20$1af6cdd4@1> <3A64D24E.86763A30@netscape.com> <3A7F0AF1.BA1A924C@lamere.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk Curtis Maurand wrote: > so that it bombs. I've also had mail send in such a way (and had it > bounce) so that it looks like someone is exploiting majordomo. (I'm > running 1.94.4) Post snippets of your majordomo log. Post snippets of your sendmail log. Post your aliases. -- Blue skies... Todd | Get a bigger hammer! | Proponents of MIME in general e-mail | | http://www.mrball.net | can go multipart/encrypt themselves. | | http://faq.mrball.net | --Rick Moen | From majordomo-users-owner Mon Feb 5 22:54:54 2001 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-980720-1) id WAA07234; Mon, 5 Feb 2001 22:36:10 -0800 (PST) Received: from www.it-town.com (unknown [202.104.20.72]) by honor.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with SMTP id 1F99517EBD for ; Mon, 5 Feb 2001 22:35:58 -0800 (PST) Received: (qmail 20567 invoked from network); 6 Feb 2001 06:54:01 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO huang) (202.104.37.191) by www.it-town.com with SMTP; 6 Feb 2001 06:54:01 -0000 Date: Tue, 6 Feb 2001 14:36:21 +0800 From: To: "majordomo-users@greatcircle.com" Subject: Show the recipients address,not the list address X-mailer: FoxMail 2.1 [cn] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <20010206063558.1F99517EBD@honor.greatcircle.com> Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk When I send email to the list address using majordomo,the list address is shown in the email. But I want the individual address to be shown instead,how to do that? BTW,everytime someone subscribes to the list,the successful email is sent to the subscriber, how to get rid of it?I don't want this kind of message to every subscriber. Thanks! Jacky From majordomo-users-owner Mon Feb 5 23:39:38 2001 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-980720-1) id XAA07707; Mon, 5 Feb 2001 23:28:48 -0800 (PST) Received: from castro.queernet.org (castro.queernet.org [209.157.101.253]) by honor.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 539EB17E8B for ; Mon, 5 Feb 2001 23:28:44 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (rogerk@localhost) by castro.queernet.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) with ESMTP id f167SC324204 Date: Mon, 5 Feb 2001 23:28:12 -0800 (PST) From: "Roger B.A. Klorese" To: Cc: "majordomo-users@greatcircle.com" Subject: Re: Show the recipients address,not the list address In-Reply-To: <20010206063558.1F99517EBD@honor.greatcircle.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk On Tue, 6 Feb 2001 jacky@intersystek.com wrote: > When I send email to the list address using majordomo,the list address is shown in the email. > But I want the individual address to be shown instead,how to do that? Rewrite and rearchitect Majordomo. And, by the way, violate RFCs in the process. > BTW,everytime someone subscribes to the list,the successful email is sent to the subscriber, > how to get rid of it?I don't want this kind of message to every subscriber. Try reading the self-documenting config file. -- ROGER B.A. KLORESE rogerk@QueerNet.ORG PO Box 14309 San Francisco, CA 94114 "There is only one real blasphemy -- the refusal of joy!" -- Paul Rudnick From majordomo-users-owner Tue Feb 6 00:54:39 2001 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-980720-1) id AAA08373; Tue, 6 Feb 2001 00:42:19 -0800 (PST) Received: from raq.prodok.net (raq.prodok.net [209.217.19.156]) by honor.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2EB4417E8B for ; Tue, 6 Feb 2001 00:42:12 -0800 (PST) Received: from [192.168.0.15] (client74-136.hispeed.ch [62.2.74.136]) by raq.prodok.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA11173 for ; Tue, 6 Feb 2001 09:42:01 +0100 Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Sender: maki%prodok.com@mail7.burlee.com Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <3A7F6577.9CEB6AF0@netscape.com> References: <3A7CDBBE.705A2271@mrball.net> <3A7D04E8.1916C888@mrball.net> <3A7F6577.9CEB6AF0@netscape.com> Date: Tue, 6 Feb 2001 09:44:19 +0100 To: majordomo-users@GreatCircle.COM From: Makiko Itoh Subject: header question Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk Greetings! I have a mailing list that is sending out messages with this header: X-Authentication-Warning: server.prodok.net: mail set sender to owner-listname@www.prodok.net using -f Is this something to be concerned about, and if so, what can I do to correct it? (apologies if this is a beginner question. I'm a beginner.) TIA! -- Makiko Itoh (Maki) PRODOK Engineering, Switzerland: http://www.prodok.com [building bridges for information] From majordomo-users-owner Tue Feb 6 03:52:11 2001 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-980720-1) id DAA13233; Tue, 6 Feb 2001 03:38:42 -0800 (PST) Received: from pisces.tecban.com.br (unknown [200.245.116.2]) by honor.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with SMTP id 73D8117E8B for ; Tue, 6 Feb 2001 03:38:25 -0800 (PST) Received: from [10.2.1.57] by pisces.tecban.com.br; Tue, 06 Feb 2001 12:34:11 GMT Received: from tecban.com.br ([10.2.2.10]) by tecban.com.br (Lotus Domino Release 5.0.5) with ESMTP id 2001020609345678:2692 ; Tue, 6 Feb 2001 09:34:56 -0400 Received: from tecban.com.br ([10.1.1.22]) by tecban.com.br (Netscape Mail Server v1.1) with ESMTP id AAA23700 for ; Tue, 6 Feb 2001 09:40:32 -0300 Received: from australis ([10.1.6.41]) by tecban.com.br (Netscape Mail Server v2.0) with SMTP id AAA28170 for ; Tue, 6 Feb 2001 09:39:33 -0200 Message-ID: <009501c09031$3d01cfa0$2906010a@tecban.com.br> Reply-To: "Luis Fernando Cerri" From: lfcerri@tecban.com.br (Luis Fernando Cerri) To: "Majordomo List" Subject: Re: Show the recipients address,not the list address Date: Tue, 6 Feb 2001 09:37:51 -0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3612.1700 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3612.1700 X-MIMETrack: Itemize by SMTP Server on andromeda/Tecban(Release 5.0.5 |September 22, 2000) at 02/06/2001 09:34:56 AM, Serialize by Router on andromeda/Tecban(Release 5.0.5 |September 22, 2000) at 02/06/2001 09:35:01 AM Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk I've already set up my config file and sent the right command to majordomo (newconfig testlist admin.passwd). But, config weren't applyed. Any idea? Should I restart majordomo? How?! Thanks in advance. =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D Luis Fernando Cerri lfcerri@tecban.com.br (11)5504-1885 Equipe de Inova=E7=E3o Tecnol=F3gica Tecnologia Banc=E1ria S/A http://www.tecban.com.br -----Mensagem original----- De: Roger B.A. Klorese Para: jacky@intersystek.com Cc: majordomo-users@greatcircle.com Data: Ter=E7a-feira, 6 de Fevereiro de 2001 09:21 Assunto: Re: Show the recipients address,not the list address >On Tue, 6 Feb 2001 jacky@intersystek.com wrote: >> When I send email to the list address using majordomo,the list address is shown in the email. >> But I want the individual address to be shown instead,how to do that? > >Rewrite and rearchitect Majordomo. And, by the way, violate RFCs in the >process. > >> BTW,everytime someone subscribes to the list,the successful email is sent to the subscriber, >> how to get rid of it?I don't want this kind of message to every subscriber. > >Try reading the self-documenting config file. >-- >ROGER B.A. KLORESE rogerk@QueerNet.ORG >PO Box 14309 San Francisco, CA 94114 >"There is only one real blasphemy -- the refusal of joy!" -- Paul Rudnick > > From majordomo-users-owner Tue Feb 6 04:53:57 2001 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-980720-1) id EAA13853; Tue, 6 Feb 2001 04:48:23 -0800 (PST) Received: from mcmail1.marshallcenter.org (mcmail1.marshallcenter.org [195.126.120.104]) by honor.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0163617E8B for ; Tue, 6 Feb 2001 04:48:15 -0800 (PST) Received: by mcmail1.marshallcenter.org with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) id <1HANZXJN>; Tue, 6 Feb 2001 13:48:05 +0100 Message-ID: <801F5BE83D86D411BB1E00D0B77E7C16590881@mcmail1.marshallcenter.org> From: "Hanson, (Not Major) David W. (Systems Support Branch)" To: "'majordomo-users@GreatCircle.COM'" Cc: "'Makiko Itoh'" Subject: RE: header question Date: Tue, 6 Feb 2001 13:48:03 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk > From: Makiko Itoh [mailto:maki@prodok.com] > (apologies if this is a beginner question. I'm a beginner.) > If you are a beginner, I highly recommend that you consult the FAQ, the MD documentation, and list archives before posting, as you will -certainly- find the answer -much quicker- than you will via the list. As a side benefit, you will learn things about MD that you didn't know you could do! To address your question: > > X-Authentication-Warning: server.prodok.net: mail set sender to > owner-listname@www.prodok.net using -f > > Is this something to be concerned about, and if so, what can I do to > correct it? While it isn't a fatal condition, it does look dodgy and should be avoided. What you need to do is to make the user that MajorDomo is running as (usually majordom) trusted by your mail transfer agent. For Sendmail, you find the section of /etc/sendmail.cf that contains the trusted users and add the entry: Tmajordom -- David Hanson George C. Marshall European Center for Security Studies Garmisch-Partenkirchen, Germany From majordomo-users-owner Tue Feb 6 06:53:21 2001 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-980720-1) id GAA14870; Tue, 6 Feb 2001 06:39:01 -0800 (PST) Received: from arm.mrball.net (mrball.net [209.85.130.137]) by honor.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A13FB17E8B for ; Tue, 6 Feb 2001 06:38:55 -0800 (PST) Received: from mrball.net (todd.mrball.net [192.168.18.3]) by arm.mrball.net (8.11.2/8.11.2) with ESMTP id f16EcWC10323; Tue, 6 Feb 2001 06:38:37 -0800 Message-ID: <3A800C64.D3FA1252@mrball.net> Date: Tue, 06 Feb 2001 06:38:28 -0800 From: Todd Lyons X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (X11; U; Linux 2.2.14-zip i586) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Jeff Wasilko Cc: majordomo-users@GreatCircle.COM Subject: Re: majordomo 1.94.x with perl 5.6.x? References: <20010205235215.A16024@jane.smoe.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk Jeff Wasilko wrote: > > I'm getting ready to do a upgrade to solaris 8 and as part of > cleaning up other cruft was planning to go to perl 5.6. Is anyone > running majordomo 1.94.x under perl 5.6 successfully? The author of demime stated to me once that there's a little bit that has to change. I don't know _WHAT_ that little bit is, though. Good luck looking! -- Blue skies... Todd | Get a bigger hammer! | Proponents of MIME in general e-mail | | http://www.mrball.net | can go multipart/encrypt themselves. | | http://faq.mrball.net | --Rick Moen | From majordomo-users-owner Tue Feb 6 07:08:25 2001 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-980720-1) id GAA14938; Tue, 6 Feb 2001 06:45:52 -0800 (PST) Received: from sporter.bestdist.com (proxy.bestdist.com [216.77.43.66]) by honor.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 51B8A17E8B for ; Tue, 6 Feb 2001 06:45:46 -0800 (PST) Received: from bestdist.com (IDENT:sporter@localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by sporter.bestdist.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA18413; Tue, 6 Feb 2001 09:45:45 -0500 Message-ID: <3A800E18.C5269627@bestdist.com> Date: Tue, 06 Feb 2001 09:45:44 -0500 From: Sean Porterfield Organization: Best Distributing Co. X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.75 [en] (X11; U; Linux 2.2.12-20 i686) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Makiko Itoh Cc: majordomo-users@GreatCircle.COM Subject: Re: header question References: <3A7CDBBE.705A2271@mrball.net> <3A7D04E8.1916C888@mrball.net> <3A7F6577.9CEB6AF0@netscape.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk Makiko Itoh wrote: > > Greetings! > > I have a mailing list that is sending out messages with this header: > > X-Authentication-Warning: server.prodok.net: mail set sender to > owner-listname@www.prodok.net using -f > > Is this something to be concerned about, and if so, what can I do to > correct it? > (apologies if this is a beginner question. I'm a beginner.) > > TIA! > -- > Makiko Itoh (Maki) > PRODOK Engineering, Switzerland: http://www.prodok.com > [building bridges for information] Find the lines in sendmail.cf (assuming you are using sendmail) similar to: Troot Tdaemon Tuucp and add one that has your majordomo user. Normally: Tmajordom From majordomo-users-owner Tue Feb 6 07:23:48 2001 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-980720-1) id HAA15278; Tue, 6 Feb 2001 07:13:48 -0800 (PST) Received: from mta5.rcsntx.swbell.net (mta5.rcsntx.swbell.net [151.164.30.29]) by honor.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 54D6517E8B for ; Tue, 6 Feb 2001 07:13:41 -0800 (PST) Received: from swbell.net ([216.63.79.227]) by mta5.rcsntx.swbell.net (Sun Internet Mail Server sims.3.5.2000.01.05.12.18.p9) with ESMTP id <0G8C00BCECE43I@mta5.rcsntx.swbell.net> for majordomo-users@GreatCircle.COM; Tue, 6 Feb 2001 09:01:16 -0600 (CST) Date: Tue, 06 Feb 2001 09:03:07 -0600 From: Bill Polhemus Subject: Re: majordomo 1.94.x with perl 5.6.x? To: Jeff Wasilko Cc: majordomo-users@GreatCircle.COM Message-id: <3A80122B.72FEE812@swbell.net> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.76 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-Accept-Language: en,pdf References: <20010205235215.A16024@jane.smoe.org> Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk Yes, I am. Jeff Wasilko wrote: > > I'm getting ready to do a upgrade to solaris 8 and as part of > cleaning up other cruft was planning to go to perl 5.6. Is anyone > running majordomo 1.94.x under perl 5.6 successfully? > > -jeff From majordomo-users-owner Tue Feb 6 08:08:25 2001 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-980720-1) id HAA15700; Tue, 6 Feb 2001 07:52:48 -0800 (PST) Received: from netscape.com (c3po.netscape.com [205.217.237.46]) by honor.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7417F17EC1 for ; Tue, 6 Feb 2001 07:52:38 -0800 (PST) Received: from judge.mcom.com (judge.mcom.com [205.217.237.53]) by netscape.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with ESMTP id f16FqYJ05026 for ; Tue, 6 Feb 2001 07:52:34 -0800 (PST) Received: from netscape.com ([205.217.228.171]) by judge.mcom.com (Netscape Messaging Server 4.15) with ESMTP id G8CERL01.5KS; Tue, 6 Feb 2001 07:52:33 -0800 Message-ID: <3A801D94.92885C41@netscape.com> Date: Tue, 06 Feb 2001 09:51:48 -0600 From: dliston@netscape.com (Dan Liston) Organization: iPlanet E-Commerce Solutions, a Sun-Netscape Alliance X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.75 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Jeff Wasilko Cc: majordomo-users@GreatCircle.COM Subject: Re: majordomo 1.94.x with perl 5.6.x? References: <20010205235215.A16024@jane.smoe.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk This is a good question for the real coders in the audience. I know going from perl 4.x to 5.00x required a lot of the majordomo code to be touched regarding using escaped @ signs. I have not heard of any similar requirements when upgrading to 5.6. Dan Liston Jeff Wasilko wrote: > > I'm getting ready to do a upgrade to solaris 8 and as part of > cleaning up other cruft was planning to go to perl 5.6. Is anyone > running majordomo 1.94.x under perl 5.6 successfully? > > -jeff From majordomo-users-owner Tue Feb 6 08:23:21 2001 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-980720-1) id HAA15760; Tue, 6 Feb 2001 07:58:49 -0800 (PST) Received: from netscape.com (c3po.netscape.com [205.217.237.46]) by honor.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id F298017EC0 for ; Tue, 6 Feb 2001 07:58:41 -0800 (PST) Received: from judge.mcom.com (judge.mcom.com [205.217.237.53]) by netscape.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with ESMTP id f16FwgJ05894 for ; Tue, 6 Feb 2001 07:58:42 -0800 (PST) Received: from netscape.com ([205.217.228.171]) by judge.mcom.com (Netscape Messaging Server 4.15) with ESMTP id G8CF1T00.RMG; Tue, 6 Feb 2001 07:58:41 -0800 Message-ID: <3A801F02.1FE22282@netscape.com> Date: Tue, 06 Feb 2001 09:57:54 -0600 From: dliston@netscape.com (Dan Liston) Organization: iPlanet E-Commerce Solutions, a Sun-Netscape Alliance X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.75 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: jacky@intersystek.com Cc: "majordomo-users@greatcircle.com" Subject: Re: Show the recipients address,not the list address References: <20010206063558.1F99517EBD@honor.greatcircle.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk jacky@intersystek.com wrote: > > When I send email to the list address using majordomo,the list address is shown in the email. > But I want the individual address to be shown instead,how to do that? Majordomo does not control this, your MTA does. This has been asked many times, but is not in the FAQ. If you were to attempt this, you would have one message per recipient rather than just one message with all recipients. This could be extremely detrimental to you server's hard drive space, memory, and efficiency of your MTA. > > BTW,everytime someone subscribes to the list,the successful email is sent to the subscriber, > how to get rid of it?I don't want this kind of message to every subscriber. > Just turn off welcome messages. "Welcome = no" in your listname.config file. Dan Liston From majordomo-users-owner Tue Feb 6 08:38:18 2001 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-980720-1) id IAA16187; Tue, 6 Feb 2001 08:34:59 -0800 (PST) Received: from cnxtsmtp2.conexant.com (cnxtsmtp2.conexant.com [198.62.9.253]) by honor.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id CFFC217EC0 for ; Tue, 6 Feb 2001 08:34:51 -0800 (PST) Received: from npbsmtp1.conexant.com (npbsmtp1.nb.conexant.com [157.152.161.153]) by cnxtsmtp2.conexant.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id IAA28745 for ; Tue, 6 Feb 2001 08:33:32 -0800 (PST) Received: from probe5.nb-engr.mindspeed.com ([10.1.4.12]) by npbsmtp1.conexant.com (Lotus Domino Release 5.0.5) with ESMTP id 2001020608344190:723567 ; Tue, 6 Feb 2001 08:34:41 -0800 Received: from nb-engr.mindspeed.com (messier.nb-engr.mindspeed.com [10.1.4.57]) by probe5.nb-engr.mindspeed.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id IAA03295; Tue, 6 Feb 2001 08:34:45 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <3A8027AB.EA6559D6@nb-engr.mindspeed.com> Date: Tue, 06 Feb 2001 08:34:51 -0800 From: Bessie Lin Nakashima Organization: Conexant Systems, Inc. X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (X11; U; SunOS 5.5.1 sun4m) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Bessie Nakashima Cc: majordomo-users@GreatCircle.COM Subject: writeconfig not updating References: <3A13F096.B7CBAFCA@nb.conexant.com> X-MIMETrack: Itemize by SMTP Server on NPBSMTP1/Server/Conexant(Release 5.0.5 |September 22, 2000) at 02/06/2001 08:34:42 AM, Serialize by Router on NPBSMTP1/Server/Conexant(Release 5.0.5 |September 22, 2000) at 02/06/2001 08:34:42 AM, Serialize complete at 02/06/2001 08:34:42 AM Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk Configuration: majordomo 1.94.5 Sendmail 8.9.3 Solaris 5.7 I (server admin) am trying to update our majordomo config files to the newer 1.94.5 version. When I do the writeconfig command the new file gets written to the correct dir, but when a list owner tries to get the config file by sending mail to majordomo it returns the old config file. The specific lines are the private_* that used to be in the old version are no longer in the new one. But the email returns with those lines. Hence when they try to update their config file majordom returns an error about those private_* lines. From majordomo-users-owner Tue Feb 6 09:23:58 2001 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-980720-1) id JAA16643; Tue, 6 Feb 2001 09:18:29 -0800 (PST) Received: from cnxtsmtp2.conexant.com (cnxtsmtp2.conexant.com [198.62.9.253]) by honor.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 038D517EC0 for ; Tue, 6 Feb 2001 09:18:22 -0800 (PST) Received: from npbsmtp1.conexant.com (npbsmtp1.nb.conexant.com [157.152.161.153]) by cnxtsmtp2.conexant.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA03476 for ; Tue, 6 Feb 2001 09:17:03 -0800 (PST) Received: from probe5.nb-engr.mindspeed.com ([10.1.4.12]) by npbsmtp1.conexant.com (Lotus Domino Release 5.0.5) with ESMTP id 2001020609181256:725050 ; Tue, 6 Feb 2001 09:18:12 -0800 Received: from nb-engr.mindspeed.com (messier.nb-engr.mindspeed.com [10.1.4.57]) by probe5.nb-engr.mindspeed.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA20634; Tue, 6 Feb 2001 09:18:16 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <3A8031DE.5D6FE9FE@nb-engr.mindspeed.com> Date: Tue, 06 Feb 2001 09:18:22 -0800 From: Bessie Lin Nakashima Organization: Conexant Systems, Inc. X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (X11; U; SunOS 5.5.1 sun4m) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Bessie Lin Nakashima Cc: Bessie Nakashima , majordomo-users@GreatCircle.COM Subject: Re: writeconfig not updating References: <3A13F096.B7CBAFCA@nb.conexant.com> <3A8027AB.EA6559D6@nb-engr.mindspeed.com> X-MIMETrack: Itemize by SMTP Server on NPBSMTP1/Server/Conexant(Release 5.0.5 |September 22, 2000) at 02/06/2001 09:18:12 AM, Serialize by Router on NPBSMTP1/Server/Conexant(Release 5.0.5 |September 22, 2000) at 02/06/2001 09:18:12 AM, Serialize complete at 02/06/2001 09:18:12 AM Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk Nevermind this. Our company was splitting into two so I had to change the majordomo.cf file to send to the right server. Bessie Lin Nakashima wrote: > > Configuration: > majordomo 1.94.5 > Sendmail 8.9.3 > Solaris 5.7 > > I (server admin) am trying to update our majordomo config files to the newer 1.94.5 version. When I > do the writeconfig command the new file gets written to the correct dir, but when a > list owner tries to get the config file by sending mail to majordomo it returns the old config file. > The specific lines are the private_* that used to be in the old version are no longer in the new > one. But the email returns with those lines. Hence when they try to update their config file > majordom returns an error about those private_* lines. -- Bessie Lin Nakashima UNIX Admin 949-483-6781 bessie.nakashima@conexant.com Mindspeed Technology, Newport Beach, CA From majordomo-users-owner Tue Feb 6 10:22:31 2001 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-980720-1) id KAA17208; Tue, 6 Feb 2001 10:12:15 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail.lamere.net (mail.lamere.net [63.88.216.10]) by honor.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 91E3A17EC1 for ; Tue, 6 Feb 2001 10:12:07 -0800 (PST) Received: from canon.maurand.com (IDENT:root@canon.maurand.com [63.88.217.240]) by mail.lamere.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA03125; Tue, 6 Feb 2001 13:11:56 -0500 Message-Id: <200102061811.NAA03125@mail.lamere.net> Subject: Re: majordomo 1.94.x with perl 5.6.x? From: Curtis Maurand To: Jeff Wasilko Cc: majordomo-users@GreatCircle.COM In-Reply-To: <20010205235215.A16024@jane.smoe.org> Content-Type: text/plain X-Mailer: Evolution (0.8 - Preview Release) Date: 06 Feb 2001 13:12:06 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk Yes, It runs fine. Curtis On 05 Feb 2001 23:52:15 -0500, Jeff Wasilko wrote: > I'm getting ready to do a upgrade to solaris 8 and as part of > cleaning up other cruft was planning to go to perl 5.6. Is anyone > running majordomo 1.94.x under perl 5.6 successfully? > > -jeff -- -------------------------------------------------------- Curtis Maurand Cisco NXNetworks Lucent System Administrator Linux OS/2 Windows NT/2000/ME/9n lamere Business Center MySQL PHP HTML Biddeford, ME 04005 mailto:curtis@lamere.net (207)283-3627 Voice (207)283-1340 Fax -------------------------------------------------------- From majordomo-users-owner Tue Feb 6 11:22:48 2001 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-980720-1) id LAA18021; Tue, 6 Feb 2001 11:17:17 -0800 (PST) Received: from netscape.com (c3po.netscape.com [205.217.237.46]) by honor.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9CD5E17EC1 for ; Tue, 6 Feb 2001 11:17:11 -0800 (PST) Received: from judge.mcom.com (judge.mcom.com [205.217.237.53]) by netscape.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with ESMTP id f16JH8J27597 for ; Tue, 6 Feb 2001 11:17:09 -0800 (PST) Received: from netscape.com ([205.217.228.184]) by judge.mcom.com (Netscape Messaging Server 4.15) with ESMTP id G8CO8K01.GP0; Tue, 6 Feb 2001 11:17:08 -0800 Message-ID: <3A804D86.34F6F894@netscape.com> Date: Tue, 06 Feb 2001 13:16:22 -0600 From: dliston@netscape.com (Dan Liston) Organization: iPlanet E-Commerce Solutions, a Sun-Netscape Alliance X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.75 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Bessie Lin Nakashima Cc: Bessie Nakashima , majordomo-users@GreatCircle.COM Subject: Re: writeconfig not updating References: <3A13F096.B7CBAFCA@nb.conexant.com> <3A8027AB.EA6559D6@nb-engr.mindspeed.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk As the admin, you have file level access to all lists and configs. You also have the ability to read the admin password for every list. Anyone with this password can send commands to majordomo as the list owner. Have you confirmed that list owners are in fact getting the old config back when they send a `config listname password` message to majordomo? Have you looked in the lists directory to see if any config file exists with the older style information? Are you sure the list owners are doing a get command before a send command when it comes to newconfig? Maybe they are just working from older copies and do not realize the private_* settings are no longer supported. Dan Liston Bessie Lin Nakashima wrote: > > Configuration: > majordomo 1.94.5 > Sendmail 8.9.3 > Solaris 5.7 > > I (server admin) am trying to update our majordomo config files to the newer 1.94.5 version. When I > do the writeconfig command the new file gets written to the correct dir, but when a > list owner tries to get the config file by sending mail to majordomo it returns the old config file. > The specific lines are the private_* that used to be in the old version are no longer in the new > one. But the email returns with those lines. Hence when they try to update their config file > majordom returns an error about those private_* lines. From majordomo-users-owner Tue Feb 6 11:37:06 2001 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-980720-1) id LAA18146; Tue, 6 Feb 2001 11:27:23 -0800 (PST) Received: from pisces.tecban.com.br (unknown [200.245.116.2]) by honor.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with SMTP id E72C917EC1 for ; Tue, 6 Feb 2001 11:27:13 -0800 (PST) Received: from [10.2.1.57] by pisces.tecban.com.br; Tue, 06 Feb 2001 20:22:59 GMT Received: from tecban.com.br ([10.2.2.10]) by tecban.com.br (Lotus Domino Release 5.0.5) with ESMTP id 2001020617234332:4001 ; Tue, 6 Feb 2001 17:23:43 -0400 Received: from tecban.com.br ([10.1.1.22]) by tecban.com.br (Netscape Mail Server v1.1) with ESMTP id AAA26776 for ; Tue, 6 Feb 2001 17:29:19 -0300 Received: from australis ([10.1.6.41]) by tecban.com.br (Netscape Mail Server v2.0) with SMTP id AAA29177 for ; Tue, 6 Feb 2001 17:28:20 -0200 Message-ID: <002601c09072$b931e420$2906010a@tecban.com.br> Reply-To: "Luis Fernando Cerri" From: lfcerri@tecban.com.br (Luis Fernando Cerri) To: "Majordomo List" Subject: Re: Show the recipients address,not the list address Date: Tue, 6 Feb 2001 17:26:36 -0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3612.1700 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3612.1700 X-MIMETrack: Itemize by SMTP Server on andromeda/Tecban(Release 5.0.5 |September 22, 2000) at 02/06/2001 05:23:43 PM, Serialize by Router on andromeda/Tecban(Release 5.0.5 |September 22, 2000) at 02/06/2001 05:23:49 PM Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk Thanks Dan for your attention, but I think majordomo recognizes my command, 'cause I receive a "succeded" feedback by e-mail and my listname.config file is renamed to listname.old.config... any other ideas??? =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D Luis Fernando Cerri lfcerri@tecban.com.br (11)5504-1885 Equipe de Inova=E7=E3o Tecnol=F3gica Tecnologia Banc=E1ria S/A http://www.tecban.com.br -----Mensagem original----- De: Dan Liston Para: Luis Fernando Cerri Cc: Majordomo List Data: Ter=E7a-feira, 6 de Fevereiro de 2001 14:16 Assunto: Re: Show the recipients address,not the list address Majordomo is not a daemon that runs in the background, therefore it never needs to be re-started. It is started new every time a message comes in and triggers majordomo via the aliases file(s). If you do a config listname password do you get the same config file back again? Or do you get the one you sent with the newconfig command? Two things to watch out for with this command are 1) make sure you send the entire listname.config file with a line at the end containing just "EOF" by itself in the text body of a message to majordomo, and 2) make sure your MUA does not do any line wrapping when sending the message. OK I lied. A third thing, make absolutely sure your message is sent in plain vanilla text. No 8bit characters, no rich text, NO HTML, no MIME encoding. Dan Liston Luis Fernando Cerri wrote: > > I've already set up my config file and sent the right command to majordomo > (newconfig testlist admin.passwd). But, config weren't applyed. Any idea? > Should I restart majordomo? How?! > > Thanks in advance. > > =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D > Luis Fernando Cerri > lfcerri@tecban.com.br > (11)5504-1885 > Equipe de Inova=E7=E3o Tecnol=F3gica > Tecnologia Banc=E1ria S/A > http://www.tecban.com.br > -----Mensagem original----- > De: Roger B.A. Klorese > Para: jacky@intersystek.com > Cc: majordomo-users@greatcircle.com > Data: Ter=E7a-feira, 6 de Fevereiro de 2001 09:21 > Assunto: Re: Show the recipients address,not the list address > > >On Tue, 6 Feb 2001 jacky@intersystek.com wrote: > >> When I send email to the list address using majordomo,the list address is > shown in the email. > >> But I want the individual address to be shown instead,how to do that? > > > >Rewrite and rearchitect Majordomo. And, by the way, violate RFCs in the > >process. > > > >> BTW,everytime someone subscribes to the list,the successful email is sent > to the subscriber, > >> how to get rid of it?I don't want this kind of message to every > subscriber. > > > >Try reading the self-documenting config file. > >-- > >ROGER B.A. KLORESE > rogerk@QueerNet.ORG > >PO Box 14309 San Francisco, CA 94114 > >"There is only one real blasphemy -- the refusal of joy!" -- Paul > Rudnick > > > > From majordomo-users-owner Tue Feb 6 11:52:11 2001 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-980720-1) id LAA17918; Tue, 6 Feb 2001 11:10:43 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail.webct.com (mail.webct.com [209.87.17.10]) by honor.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3F7E817EC1 for ; Tue, 6 Feb 2001 11:10:37 -0800 (PST) Received: from herding.webct.com (herding.webct.com [10.1.3.43]) by mail.webct.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA06719 for ; Tue, 6 Feb 2001 11:10:36 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <5.0.2.1.0.20010206110411.02aaea00@akira.webct.com> X-Sender: herding@akira.webct.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.0.2 Date: Tue, 06 Feb 2001 11:06:42 -0800 To: majordomo-users@GreatCircle.COM From: Rick Herding Subject: Dollar sign bounces? Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk Hi all: I'm trying to figure out why posts with a dollar sign in the message body get bounced from my lists. I've ensured that the dollar sign is not in my list of taboo body or taboo header terms. Is there some default filter somewhere I'm not aware of? Thanx, Rick. -------------------------------------------------------------- Rick Herding WebCT Support Communications Manager http://www.webct.com/support/ rick.herding@webct.com From majordomo-users-owner Tue Feb 6 13:52:44 2001 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-980720-1) id NAA19746; Tue, 6 Feb 2001 13:46:14 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail.webct.com (mail.webct.com [209.87.17.10]) by honor.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C122417EB0 for ; Tue, 6 Feb 2001 13:46:07 -0800 (PST) Received: from herding.webct.com (herding.webct.com [10.1.3.43]) by mail.webct.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA14043 for ; Tue, 6 Feb 2001 13:46:07 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <5.0.2.1.0.20010206134205.00adac38@akira.webct.com> X-Sender: herding@akira.webct.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.0.2 Date: Tue, 06 Feb 2001 13:42:13 -0800 To: majordomo-users@GreatCircle.COM From: Rick Herding Subject: Dollar sign bounces? Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk Hi all: I'm trying to figure out why posts with a dollar sign in the message body get bounced from my lists. I've ensured that the dollar sign is not in my list of taboo body or taboo header terms. Is there some default filter somewhere I'm not aware of? Thanx, Rick. -------------------------------------------------------------- Rick Herding WebCT Support Communications Manager http://www.webct.com/support/ rick.herding@webct.com From majordomo-users-owner Tue Feb 6 14:22:04 2001 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-980720-1) id OAA20130; Tue, 6 Feb 2001 14:16:07 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail.bcpl.net (mail.bcpl.net [204.255.212.10]) by honor.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1180717EAF for ; Tue, 6 Feb 2001 14:16:01 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (fold@localhost) by mail.bcpl.net (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id RAA06208 for ; Tue, 6 Feb 2001 17:16:01 -0500 (EST) Date: Tue, 6 Feb 2001 17:16:00 -0500 (EST) From: Chip Old To: Majordomo-Users Subject: Re: Dollar sign bounces? In-Reply-To: <5.0.2.1.0.20010206110411.02aaea00@akira.webct.com> Message-ID: X-Organization: BCPL.NET Internet Services MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk On Tue, 6 Feb 2001, Rick Herding wrote to majordomo-users@GreatCircle.COM: > I'm trying to figure out why posts with a dollar sign in the message > body get bounced from my lists. I've ensured that the dollar sign is > not in my list of taboo body or taboo header terms. Is there some > default filter somewhere I'm not aware of? How about some examples? -- Chip Old (Francis E. Old) E-Mail: fold@bcpl.net Manager, BCPL Network Services Voice: 410-887-6180 Manager, BCPL.NET Internet Services FAX: 410-887-2091 Baltimore County Public Library ICBM: 39.39910 N 320 York Road 76.60300 W Towson, Maryland 21204 U.S.A. From majordomo-users-owner Tue Feb 6 14:37:04 2001 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-980720-1) id OAA20119; Tue, 6 Feb 2001 14:15:33 -0800 (PST) Received: from netscape.com (c3po.netscape.com [205.217.237.46]) by honor.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7DBD817EAF for ; Tue, 6 Feb 2001 14:15:27 -0800 (PST) Received: from judge.mcom.com (judge.mcom.com [205.217.237.53]) by netscape.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with ESMTP id f16MFRJ06635 for ; Tue, 6 Feb 2001 14:15:27 -0800 (PST) Received: from netscape.com ([205.217.228.211]) by judge.mcom.com (Netscape Messaging Server 4.15) with ESMTP id G8CWHR01.5SI; Tue, 6 Feb 2001 14:15:27 -0800 Message-ID: <3A807751.1CEDCEB1@netscape.com> Date: Tue, 06 Feb 2001 16:14:41 -0600 From: dliston@netscape.com (Dan Liston) Organization: iPlanet E-Commerce Solutions, a Sun-Netscape Alliance X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.75 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Rick Herding Cc: majordomo-users@greatcircle.com Subject: Re: Dollar sign bounces? References: <5.0.2.1.0.20010206110411.02aaea00@akira.webct.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk Did you also check the $global_taboo_body setting in majordomo.cf? If this is what you are referring to as already checked, did you check the individual listname.config files for filters in taboo_body << END? Dan Rick Herding wrote: > > Hi all: > > I'm trying to figure out why posts with a dollar sign in the message body > get bounced from my lists. I've ensured that the dollar sign is not in my > list of taboo body or taboo header terms. Is there some default filter > somewhere I'm not aware of? > > Thanx, Rick. From majordomo-users-owner Tue Feb 6 15:07:32 2001 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-980720-1) id PAA20635; Tue, 6 Feb 2001 15:01:21 -0800 (PST) Received: from garnet.tc.umn.edu (garnet.tc.umn.edu [160.94.218.249]) by honor.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C2FAF17EAF for ; Tue, 6 Feb 2001 15:01:15 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost by garnet.tc.umn.edu with ESMTP for majordomo-users@greatcircle.com; Tue, 6 Feb 2001 17:01:12 -0600 Date: Tue, 6 Feb 2001 17:01:12 -0600 (CST) From: mjn X-Sender: mjn@garnet.tc.umn.edu To: majordomo-users@GreatCircle.COM Subject: New versions... Message-Id: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk I have updated my majordomo list creation script. The name has changed from MajorDomoCreate to just majorcreate. I also have created another script, majordelete, and information about that is below the majorcreate stuff. The latest versions both programs are here: ftp://monolith.coafes.umn.edu/pub/majordomo/ The changes in this revision include (from the README): 1.0 2/5/01 - Miscellaneous code clean up Changed the name for no real good reason from MajorDomoCreate to majorcreate. I removed my head from my ass and changed the system(ln) calls to symlink() in make_password() Added %ui_config to handle the UI values instead of the myriad of global variables I had defined in previous versions Fixed some logic problems with main_functions() which was causing cleaning_up() and new_config() to run every time main_functions() was run Fixed old_import() so that there is only one open() and one close() for a given @imported. Prior to this open() and close() were used on the NEWLISTFILE for every element in @imported; yuckie! I imagine this will make the import portion of the script much faster Broke apart clean_up() into three different subroutines: clean_up(), new_aliases(), and update_majorcool() Added get_the_date_suffix() and convert_numbers() to provide the "random" portion of the outgoing aliases. Basically these two functions create a time-date stamp and that is used as part of the outgoing alias to obscure it from the spammers rather than -doit which was the standard in previous versions Information about majordelete: This program is used to delete a single address from multiple Majordomo lists. -d Display mode- does not delete. This option is useful if you are looking to see how many lists a given address is subscribed to. -n Silent mode- deletes without any display. -i Interactive mode- deletes the address from one list at a time. This mode will give a display of all the lists the email address in question is a part of and then ask you, one list at a time, if you'd like to delete. -H This help information If you wanted to see all of the lists that bob@host.net is subscribed too, and maybe aren't that adept with grep, you could do this: ./majordelete -d bob@host.net You'll need to change these values in the script prior to running it: majordomo_dir /majordomo-data/lists majordomo_user 91 majordomo_group 91 changes_dir /majordomo-data/lists/CHANGES Here is how it works: You run the script with a given mode and an email address (unless you specify -H, which gives you the help menu) and, depending on mode, the script will display, display and delete interactively, or delete without display or intervention. The nice thing is that majordelete saves a copy of all changes in the change_dir so that you can easily roll back over your changes. The filename format for the changes files is listname-usernameremoved.time-date (this is the same time-date method as used in majorcreate). Since time-date is generated every time majordelete is run, it is possible to travel back through multiple changes in any given time frame. Question or problems: mjn@umn.edu. Thanks... ____________________________ Mike Neuharth ADCS Technology Specialist http://www.umn.edu/adcs E-Mail : mjn@umn.edu Page Mail : 6126486512@page.metrocall.com http://nifty.dsl.visi.com/ ____________________________ From majordomo-users-owner Tue Feb 6 16:22:39 2001 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-980720-1) id QAA21376; Tue, 6 Feb 2001 16:09:34 -0800 (PST) Received: from wawura.off.connect.com.au (wawura.off.connect.com.au [202.21.9.2]) by honor.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C8D3017EAF for ; Tue, 6 Feb 2001 16:09:29 -0800 (PST) Received: from sik.off.connect.com.au (sik.off.connect.com.au [202.21.9.6]) by wawura.off.connect.com.au (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5A2C6285FD for ; Wed, 7 Feb 2001 11:09:29 +1100 (EST) To: majordomo-users@greatcircle.com Subject: taboo_headers regexp help. Date: Wed, 07 Feb 2001 11:09:29 +1100 From: Dean McDonald Message-Id: <20010207000929.5A2C6285FD@wawura.off.connect.com.au> Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk Hiya, Apologies if this has gone through the list. I've had several different things in taboo_headers to try and filter out anything sent in HTML. This is what I currently have: /^Content-type:.*multipart\/alternative;/i All the fitlers up until the above have failed, I'm still yet to test this one. However could anyone maybe take a guess as to how effective the above would be? or recommend anything else that would make it more HTML-proof? I'm also wondering whether the following filters would be work, particularly the X-Originating-IP one: /^From:.*baduser\@baddomain\.net/i /^X-Originating-IP:.*[216\.154\.2/i Any help appreciated, Dean. From majordomo-users-owner Tue Feb 6 19:22:42 2001 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-980720-1) id TAA23195; Tue, 6 Feb 2001 19:15:18 -0800 (PST) Received: from smtpb.ha-net.ptd.net (smtpb.ha-net.ptd.net [207.44.96.82]) by honor.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with SMTP id BFA0117EAF for ; Tue, 6 Feb 2001 19:15:10 -0800 (PST) Received: (qmail 21892 invoked from network); 7 Feb 2001 03:17:42 -0000 Received: from mail1.ha-net.ptd.net (HELO mail.ptd.net) ([207.44.96.65]) (envelope-sender ) by smtpb.ha-net.ptd.net (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP for ; 7 Feb 2001 03:17:42 -0000 Received: (qmail 25064 invoked from network); 7 Feb 2001 03:15:24 -0000 Received: from p300-1.msns.blo.ptd.net (HELO p300) ([24.229.70.103]) (envelope-sender ) by mail.ptd.net (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP for ; 7 Feb 2001 03:15:24 -0000 From: "Mike Seibert" To: Subject: restrict_post Date: Sun, 4 Feb 2001 22:18:53 -0500 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.3018.1300 Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk I'm using restrict_post = listname.senders to restrict who can post to a list. What options do I have to prevent someone from forging one of the email address in the listname.senders file. I don't want to have moderated list. ( Can I block the address of the sender when a message is posted to the list?) From majordomo-users-owner Tue Feb 6 19:37:06 2001 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-980720-1) id TAA23272; Tue, 6 Feb 2001 19:21:40 -0800 (PST) Received: from penguin.iceberg (203-79-84-50.adsl.paradise.net.nz [203.79.84.50]) by honor.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A99D117EAF for ; Tue, 6 Feb 2001 19:21:33 -0800 (PST) Received: from dolphin.core-dev.co.nz (dolphin.iceberg [192.168.1.20]) by penguin.iceberg (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian 8.9.3-21) with ESMTP id QAA01552; Wed, 7 Feb 2001 16:21:29 +1300 X-Authentication-Warning: penguin.iceberg: Host dolphin.iceberg [192.168.1.20] claimed to be dolphin.core-dev.co.nz Message-Id: <4.3.2.7.2.20010207162357.00b5be68@penguin> X-Sender: will@penguin X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 4.3.2 Date: Wed, 07 Feb 2001 16:24:36 +1300 To: Dean McDonald , majordomo-users@GreatCircle.COM From: Will Bryant Subject: Re: taboo_headers regexp help. In-Reply-To: <20010207000929.5A2C6285FD@wawura.off.connect.com.au> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk >Apologies if this has gone through the list. I've had several different >things in taboo_headers to try and filter out anything sent in HTML. > >This is what I currently have: > > /^Content-type:.*multipart\/alternative;/i This needs to be in taboo_body, instead, I think? _______________________________________________________________________ Will Bryant, will@core-dev.co.nz cell +64 21 655 443 http://www.core-dev.co.nz/ Personal: http://www.core-dev.co.nz/will/ ShareChat Ltd. technical manager http://www.sharechat.co.nz/ [PGP 0x96A7F40A, FP 827F A2A9 C718 106D 8F80 E16E A244 D5F2 96A7 F40A] From majordomo-users-owner Wed Feb 7 02:03:05 2001 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-980720-1) id BAA27538; Wed, 7 Feb 2001 01:45:42 -0800 (PST) Received: from lebesgue.math.univ-nantes.fr (lebesgue.math.sciences.univ-nantes.fr [193.52.98.8]) by honor.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2BD1A17EAE for ; Wed, 7 Feb 2001 01:45:25 -0800 (PST) Received: from KADOR (kador [193.52.98.133]) by lebesgue.math.univ-nantes.fr (8.9.3/jtpda-5.3.3) with ESMTP id KAA04898 for ; Wed, 7 Feb 2001 10:45:25 +0100 (MET) Message-Id: <4.2.0.58.20010207103921.00a401d8@lebesgue.math.sciences.univ-nantes.fr> X-Sender: mamouni@lebesgue.math.sciences.univ-nantes.fr X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.2.0.58 Date: Wed, 07 Feb 2001 10:47:46 +0100 To: majordomo-users@GreatCircle.COM From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Sa=EFd?= El Mamouni Subject: problem after majordomo install Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk hello i've installed majordomo and it looks well working. Im on digital unixtru64 4.0f my problem is that yesterday my dns take the ip adress of a printer and the NIS doesnt work well the result of the newaliases command : /var/adm/sendmail/aliases: 352 aliases, longest 443 bytes, 11718 bytes total /var/adm/sendmail/revaliases: 176 aliases, longest 24 bytes, 3790 bytes total updated passwd Map 'ypslaves.lebesgue' is empty for domain 'math' Map 'ypslaves.lebesgue' is empty for domain 'math' pushed passwd updated revaliases Map 'ypslaves.lebesgue' is empty for domain 'math' Status received from ypxfr on poincare.math.sciences.univ-nantes.fr: Failed - ypxfr had an RPC failure pushed revaliases thanks i think i will uninstall majordomo for the moment. From majordomo-users-owner Wed Feb 7 08:21:56 2001 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-980720-1) id IAA02853; Wed, 7 Feb 2001 08:00:00 -0800 (PST) Received: from netscape.com (c3po.netscape.com [205.217.237.46]) by honor.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0B35017EAE for ; Wed, 7 Feb 2001 07:59:52 -0800 (PST) Received: from judge.mcom.com (judge.mcom.com [205.217.237.53]) by netscape.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with ESMTP id f17FxqJ15848 for ; Wed, 7 Feb 2001 07:59:52 -0800 (PST) Received: from netscape.com ([205.217.228.77]) by judge.mcom.com (Netscape Messaging Server 4.15) with ESMTP id G8E9RS01.G3Z; Wed, 7 Feb 2001 07:59:52 -0800 Message-ID: <3A8170C6.A05167E@netscape.com> Date: Wed, 07 Feb 2001 09:59:02 -0600 From: dliston@netscape.com (Dan Liston) Organization: iPlanet eCommerce Solutions, A Sun-Netscape Alliance X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.75 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Mike Seibert Cc: majordomo-users@GreatCircle.COM Subject: Re: restrict_post References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk Preventing forgery is would be difficult, but not impossible if you know the IP of the real person/address being forged. Most forgers are not good enough to spoof an IP just to forge an address. You can block ANYTHING, provided you use the right header or body taboo filter. The mail still comes in, but it bounces to the owner of the list as a taboo message. You really want to block/prevent forgery during the SMTP MAIL transaction. Dan Liston Mike Seibert wrote: > > I'm using restrict_post = listname.senders to restrict who can post to a > list. > What options do I have to prevent someone from forging one of the email > address in the listname.senders file. I don't want to have moderated list. > ( Can I block the address of the sender when a message is posted to the > list?) From majordomo-users-owner Wed Feb 7 08:36:26 2001 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-980720-1) id IAA03057; Wed, 7 Feb 2001 08:16:41 -0800 (PST) Received: from netscape.com (c3po.netscape.com [205.217.237.46]) by honor.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4A4DC17EAE for ; Wed, 7 Feb 2001 08:16:35 -0800 (PST) Received: from judge.mcom.com (judge.mcom.com [205.217.237.53]) by netscape.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with ESMTP id f17GGZJ18606 for ; Wed, 7 Feb 2001 08:16:35 -0800 (PST) Received: from netscape.com ([205.217.228.77]) by judge.mcom.com (Netscape Messaging Server 4.15) with ESMTP id G8EAJN02.H5R; Wed, 7 Feb 2001 08:16:35 -0800 Message-ID: <3A8174B0.CEC143C1@netscape.com> Date: Wed, 07 Feb 2001 10:15:44 -0600 From: dliston@netscape.com (Dan Liston) Organization: iPlanet eCommerce Solutions, A Sun-Netscape Alliance X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.75 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Dean McDonald Cc: majordomo-users@GreatCircle.COM Subject: Re: taboo_headers regexp help. References: <20010207000929.5A2C6285FD@wawura.off.connect.com.au> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk Yes, this has been through the list a time or two. :P) Dean McDonald wrote: > > Hiya, > > Apologies if this has gone through the list. I've had several different > things in taboo_headers to try and filter out anything sent in HTML. > > This is what I currently have: > > /^Content-type:.*multipart\/alternative;/i If you also want to prevent file attachments, the filter above could be reduced to /^Content-type:.*multipart/i This might be overkill, but I use the above, plus /^Content-type:.*html/i /^Content-type:.*rich/i /^Content-Type:.*application/i /^X-MS-Attachment:/i /^Content-Disposition:\s+attachment/i /^Content-Transfer-Encoding:\s+base64/i /^Content-Transfer-Encoding:\s+quoted-printable/i > > All the fitlers up until the above have failed, I'm still yet to test > this one. However could anyone maybe take a guess as to how effective > the above would be? or recommend anything else that would make it more > HTML-proof? You might be better off considering the demime tool, but it has a dependency on some perl modules that are not included in an out-of-the-box perl 5.00x installation. Rather than blocking HTML, strip it. I have not taken the time to see which specific cpan perl modules must be installed to fill the dependencies of each required perl mod either. I am sure there are some on this list that have done this, rather than upgrading to perl 5.6 so maybe you will see more comments in this regard. > > I'm also wondering whether the following filters would be work, > particularly the X-Originating-IP one: > > /^From:.*baduser\@baddomain\.net/i > /^X-Originating-IP:.*[216\.154\.2/i > The first filter works great, for a specific user. The second one needs a \ before [ or the [ will be interpretted as the beginning of a set or range of characters. /^X-Originating-IP:.*\[216\.154\.2/i To block the entire class C IP range above, you would be better off using the /etc/mail/access file supported in sendmail 8.8.8 and higher with just one line like; 216.154.2 REJECT Of course, this only blocks the message if it truly touches port 25 on your server. If it was relayed through the IP above (which is where it gets the X-Originiating-IP header, the filter is a better trap than the access file. Dan From majordomo-users-owner Wed Feb 7 09:19:53 2001 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-980720-1) id IAA03399; Wed, 7 Feb 2001 08:54:12 -0800 (PST) Received: from netscape.com (r2d2.netscape.com [205.217.237.47]) by honor.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6EA4317EAE for ; Wed, 7 Feb 2001 08:54:06 -0800 (PST) Received: from judge.mcom.com (judge.mcom.com [205.217.237.53]) by netscape.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with ESMTP id f17Gs5b22365 for ; Wed, 7 Feb 2001 08:54:06 -0800 (PST) Received: from netscape.com ([205.217.228.77]) by judge.mcom.com (Netscape Messaging Server 4.15) with ESMTP id G8ECA502.978; Wed, 7 Feb 2001 08:54:05 -0800 Message-ID: <3A817D7A.379B62FD@netscape.com> Date: Wed, 07 Feb 2001 10:53:14 -0600 From: dliston@netscape.com (Dan Liston) Reply-To: Majordomo Users Organization: iPlanet eCommerce Solutions, A Sun-Netscape Alliance X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.75 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: ecrump@interversity.org Cc: Majordomo Users Subject: Re: (Fwd) Re: inconsistent b*ounce failure References: <3A806B16.13253.5FF9A62@localhost> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk The first thing to do when users complain about messages not getting posted, is check your sendmail log. Make sure it actually arrived in the first place. Assuming your lists are testlist and ncte-talk, any user subscribed is allowed to post. Considering this is only happening to some users and not all, I would check majordomo.cf for $global_taboo_* filters, and your individual listname.config files for taboo_* too. Beyond that, please post your questions to the users list. It is always better to have as many readers as possible to help provide answers. Dan Liston ecrump@interversity.org wrote: > > Thanks for the suggestions for my bounce problems. You all > suggested checking the restrict_post line in the config files. They > look consistent, to me: > > restrict_post = testlist > > restrict_post = ncte-talk ncte-talk-digest ncte-talk.auth > > I think I wasn't clear about the exact bounce problem, either. > What's happening is that I'm getting complaints from subscribers > that their messages are not getting posted. These are people who > are posting from addresses that are identical to their subscription > addresses. In some cases, their mail is multipart with HTML or > attacheded files included. I have taboo entries in majordomo.cf to > catch that stuff, so their messages *should* bounce to the listmgr > account, but they seem to just disappear in the ether. I thought > maybe there was something wrong with the alias entries that would > cause bounces to go awry, but it seems that's not it. And it looks > to me that the restrict_post entries are OK. > > I'm really mystified by this. It affects a number of people on a > number of lists but I haven't detected a pattern yet. > > Well, if any of you can think of anything else I could check, I'd be > grateful. Thanks for your advice and for taking the time to respond! > > --Eric Crump > > On 26 Jan 2001, at 21:47, Todd Lyons wrote: > > > Eric Crump wrote: > > > > > The first alias below is for a list that fails to bounce messages it > > > should bounce (like for attempted postings by non-subscribers). The > > > example below is the aliases for a list that successfullly bounces > > > messages that should bounce. > > > I'd be grateful for any clues or suggestions. > > > > These lines don't have anything to do with whether a message is bounced or > > not. It only affects where it goes when it DOES bounce. You need to look > > in your testlist.config file. That's where restrict_post is set. If I've > > misunderstood your problem, please be more detailed (your posting of the > > aliases was excellent by the way, and they look fine). > > -- > > Blue skies... Todd > > | Get a bigger hammer! | Proponents of MIME in general e-mail | > > | http://www.mrball.net | can go multipart/encrypt themselves. | > > | http://faq.mrball.net | --Rick Moen | > > ------- End of forwarded message ------- > ------- End of forwarded message ------- From majordomo-users-owner Wed Feb 7 11:26:23 2001 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-980720-1) id KAA04635; Wed, 7 Feb 2001 10:51:54 -0800 (PST) Received: from mailhost.mhs.ch (mailout01.mhs.ch [195.65.24.155]) by honor.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with SMTP id A14A617EC1 for ; Wed, 7 Feb 2001 10:51:46 -0800 (PST) Received: from equadriga.com (194.230.156.113) by olbas.mhs.ch with ESMTP using JSMail - 3.56.1566; Wed, 7 Feb 2001 19:51:23 +0100 X-Envelope-To: majordomo-users@greatcircle.com Message-ID: <3A819A15.78BAF3FB@equadriga.com> Date: Wed, 07 Feb 2001 19:55:17 +0100 From: Adrian Petcu X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.76 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: majordomo-users@greatcircle.com Subject: Mail encryption to/from mail lists References: <3A723968.99B2F5F2@nextmedia-i.com> <3A725F9F.DEFD6593@mrball.net> <4.3.2.7.2.20010128120922.00aefbb0@pop3.interlap.com.ar> Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="------------517E3AA869F9D636422B87C7" Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk --------------517E3AA869F9D636422B87C7 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hello everyone! I would like to setup an encrypted mail list (probably using PGP) I thought that the best way to do this is like this: * Majordomo server has a private/public key. The public key is distributed to all users * every user has a private/public key. Majordomo server has all the public keys of the users. Scenario: * User X wants to send a mail to mail_list_Y. He encrypts his mail using the server public key. He sends it. * Majordomo server receives his mail, and decrypts it using his private key. * Majordomo server sends mail to every user in the mail list, encripting it with the user's public key. * Each user of the mailing list gets the encrypted message, and decrypts it using his private key. In my opinion this is the best scenario, but there are some problems implementing it: decryption/encryption at Majordomo server. I tried to "interpose" the pgp executable in the aliases file (something like * mylist: "| pgp -f +batchmode -z "My password" |/usr/lib/majordomo/wrapper resend -l mylist mylist-outgoing" ) but obviously it did not work... Or something like * mylist-outgoing: "|/usr/bin/bulk_mailer owner-mylist@mdomo.domain.com /var/lib/majordomo/lists/mylist" , to catch the mail when it's about to go. But it did not work either (headers already attached) Something tells me that I should probably take a deeper look into the "resend" script... But since I'm not such a perl guy :-(, that doesn't make me feel very good. Any ideas? Did anybody do such a stupid thing before (like encrypting mail for mail lists?) ??? (btw: I use majordomo 1.94.5, sendmail 8.10.2, and perl 5.005 - I guess) -- Best regards, Adrian Petcu --------------517E3AA869F9D636422B87C7 Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hello everyone!
I would like to setup an encrypted mail list (probably using PGP)
I thought that the best way to do this is like this:
  •      Majordomo server has a private/public key. The public key is distributed to all users
  •      every user has a private/public key. Majordomo server has all the public keys of the users.
Scenario:
  •      User X wants to send a mail to mail_list_Y. He encrypts his mail using the server public key. He sends it.
  •      Majordomo server  receives his mail, and decrypts it using his private key.
  •      Majordomo server sends mail to every user in the mail list, encripting it with the user's public key.
  •      Each user of the mailing list gets the encrypted message, and decrypts it using his private key.


In my opinion this is the best scenario, but there are some problems implementing it: decryption/encryption at Majordomo server.
I tried to "interpose" the pgp executable in the aliases file (something like

  • mylist:                    "| pgp -f +batchmode -z "My password" |/usr/lib/majordomo/wrapper resend -l mylist mylist-outgoing"  )
but obviously it did not work...

Or something like

  • mylist-outgoing:           "|/usr/bin/bulk_mailer owner-mylist@mdomo.domain.com /var/lib/majordomo/lists/mylist" ,
to catch the mail when it's about to go. But it did not work either (headers already attached)

Something tells me that I should probably take a deeper look into the "resend" script... But since I'm not such a perl guy :-(, that doesn't make me feel very good.
 

Any ideas? Did anybody do such a stupid thing before (like encrypting mail for mail lists?)   ???
(btw: I use majordomo 1.94.5, sendmail 8.10.2, and perl 5.005 - I guess)

--
Best regards,
  Adrian Petcu
  --------------517E3AA869F9D636422B87C7-- From majordomo-users-owner Wed Feb 7 14:22:35 2001 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-980720-1) id NAA06658; Wed, 7 Feb 2001 13:59:55 -0800 (PST) Received: from mta5.rcsntx.swbell.net (mta5.rcsntx.swbell.net [151.164.30.29]) by honor.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 64FBF17EBE for ; Wed, 7 Feb 2001 13:59:50 -0800 (PST) Received: from swbell.net ([216.63.79.227]) by mta5.rcsntx.swbell.net (Sun Internet Mail Server sims.3.5.2000.01.05.12.18.p9) with ESMTP id <0G8E0044VP582E@mta5.rcsntx.swbell.net> for majordomo-users@GreatCircle.COM; Wed, 7 Feb 2001 15:31:56 -0600 (CST) Date: Wed, 07 Feb 2001 15:33:48 -0600 From: Bill Polhemus Subject: Re: majordomo 1.94.x with perl 5.6.x? To: Todd Lyons Cc: Jeff Wasilko , majordomo-users@GreatCircle.COM Message-id: <3A81BF3C.B47AE630@swbell.net> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.76 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-Accept-Language: en,pdf References: <20010205235215.A16024@jane.smoe.org> <3A800C64.D3FA1252@mrball.net> Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk Todd Lyons wrote: > > Jeff Wasilko wrote: > > > > I'm getting ready to do a upgrade to solaris 8 and as part of > > cleaning up other cruft was planning to go to perl 5.6. Is anyone > > running majordomo 1.94.x under perl 5.6 successfully? > > The author of demime stated to me once that there's a little bit that has to > change. I don't know _WHAT_ that little bit is, though. Good luck looking! As I say, I'm running with Perl 5.6.0 and Mj 1.94.5 under Red Hat Linux 7.0. So far, everything seems to be peachy. I'm having problems, but they don't appear to be PERL-related. From majordomo-users-owner Wed Feb 7 14:51:30 2001 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-980720-1) id OAA07039; Wed, 7 Feb 2001 14:31:12 -0800 (PST) Received: from netscape.com (r2d2.netscape.com [205.217.237.47]) by honor.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5DCD917EBE for ; Wed, 7 Feb 2001 14:31:06 -0800 (PST) Received: from judge.mcom.com (judge.mcom.com [205.217.237.53]) by netscape.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with ESMTP id f17MV4b07812 for ; Wed, 7 Feb 2001 14:31:04 -0800 (PST) Received: from netscape.com ([205.217.228.77]) by judge.mcom.com (Netscape Messaging Server 4.15) with ESMTP id G8ERVS00.1C4; Wed, 7 Feb 2001 14:31:04 -0800 Message-ID: <3A81CC6A.48F25F65@netscape.com> Date: Wed, 07 Feb 2001 16:30:02 -0600 From: dliston@netscape.com (Dan Liston) Organization: iPlanet eCommerce Solutions, A Sun-Netscape Alliance X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.75 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Adrian Petcu Cc: majordomo-users@GreatCircle.COM Subject: Re: Mail encryption to/from mail lists References: <3A723968.99B2F5F2@nextmedia-i.com> <3A725F9F.DEFD6593@mrball.net> <4.3.2.7.2.20010128120922.00aefbb0@pop3.interlap.com.ar> <3A819A15.78BAF3FB@equadriga.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk Except for the smallest of lists, and the fastest of computers, I see trouble on the horizon. I dont't think the aliases file is the proper place for pgp (or gpg) as it is owned by sendmail, not majordomo. For privacy to work, ONE user must own the keys. This would need to be coded/patched into resend (IMHO), and would create a single message per user rather than one message for all users as is the process out of the box. Not only does all the decryption/encryption overhead smack your processor, but having additional tmp, swap, control, and data files created per message will hit your I/O pretty hard too. If you do achieve this, and it does not appear to bring servers to its knees, please post your results. Dan Liston Adrian Petcu wrote: > > Hello everyone! > I would like to setup an encrypted mail list (probably using PGP) > I thought that the best way to do this is like this: > > * Majordomo server has a private/public key. The public key is distributed to all users > * every user has a private/public key. Majordomo server has all the public keys of the users. > > Scenario: > > * User X wants to send a mail to mail_list_Y. He encrypts his mail using the server public key. He sends it. > * Majordomo server receives his mail, and decrypts it using his private key. > * Majordomo server sends mail to every user in the mail list, encripting it with the user's public key. > * Each user of the mailing list gets the encrypted message, and decrypts it using his private key. > > In my opinion this is the best scenario, but there are some problems implementing it: decryption/encryption at Majordomo server. > I tried to "interpose" the pgp executable in the aliases file (something like > > * mylist: "| pgp -f +batchmode -z "My password" |/usr/lib/majordomo/wrapper resend -l mylist mylist-outgoing" ) > > but obviously it did not work... > > Or something like > > * mylist-outgoing: "|/usr/bin/bulk_mailer owner-mylist@mdomo.domain.com /var/lib/majordomo/lists/mylist" , > > to catch the mail when it's about to go. But it did not work either (headers already attached) > > Something tells me that I should probably take a deeper look into the "resend" script... But since I'm not such a perl guy :-(, that doesn't make me feel very good. > > > Any ideas? Did anybody do such a stupid thing before (like encrypting mail for mail lists?) ??? > (btw: I use majordomo 1.94.5, sendmail 8.10.2, and perl 5.005 - I guess) > > -- > Best regards, > Adrian Petcu > From majordomo-users-owner Wed Feb 7 16:35:14 2001 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-980720-1) id QAA08147; Wed, 7 Feb 2001 16:17:25 -0800 (PST) Received: from sp4.macarthur.uws.EDU.AU (sp4.macarthur.uws.EDU.AU [137.154.72.104]) by honor.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0A4CF17EC4 for ; Wed, 7 Feb 2001 16:17:16 -0800 (PST) Received: from juliexu ([137.154.73.80]) by sp4.macarthur.uws.EDU.AU (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id LAA16524 for ; Thu, 8 Feb 2001 11:07:45 +1100 Message-Id: <3.0.6.32.20010208111808.00bca190@sovereign.macarthur.uws.edu.au> X-Sender: a9500672@sovereign.macarthur.uws.edu.au X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.6 (32) Date: Thu, 08 Feb 2001 11:18:08 +1100 To: majordomo-users@GreatCircle.COM From: Julie Xu Subject: problem with archive Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk Hi, I am new to mojordomo and have problem to create an archive. on the /etc/mail/aliases I have put: sell-owner: owner@email.address owner-sell: owner@email.address sell-approval: owner@email.address sell-request: "|/home/majordomo/wrapper request-answer sell" sell-outgoing: :include:/var/mail/lists/sell, sell-archive sell: "|/home/majordomo/wrapper resend -l sell -h ob1.uws.edu.au sell-outgoing" sell-archive: "|/home/majordomo/wrapper archive2.pl -f /var/mail/lists/sell.archive -m -u" I have created the directory sell.archive in /var/mail/lists/ and set it to 755. But, when I try to send mail to this group, the archive file will not be created into /var/mail/lists/sell.archive, instead, it created in /var/mail/lists/. What I have done wrong, please advice Any comments will be appreciated Thanks in advance Julie Julie Xu Unix/Network Administrator Information Techonology Directorate University of Westen Sydney, Campbelltown Campbelltown NSW 2560 Phone: 61 02 4620-3098 Email: j.xu@uws.edu.au From majordomo-users-owner Wed Feb 7 17:04:59 2001 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-980720-1) id QAA08386; Wed, 7 Feb 2001 16:43:31 -0800 (PST) Received: from imail3.digiweb.com (unknown [216.205.134.100]) by honor.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3E50117EBE for ; Wed, 7 Feb 2001 16:43:25 -0800 (PST) Received: from chris [203.101.60.160] by imail3.digiweb.com (SMTPD32-6.00) id A769128B00CA; Wed, 07 Feb 2001 19:25:13 -0500 Message-Id: <3.0.32.20010208104048.007421fc@imail.hitsquad.com> X-Sender: chris$hitsquad.com@imail.hitsquad.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0 (32) Date: Thu, 08 Feb 2001 10:41:01 +1000 To: majordomo-users@GreatCircle.COM From: Christopher James Subject: 3 bounce delete ?? Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk Hey guys ! Can you set majordomo to like detect three bounces and if that occurs delete that email address from the list ? Chris __________________________________________________________________ Christopher James Trainee System Administrator Hitsquad.com Ltd chris@hitsquad.com PO Box 366, Albion, 4010 AUSTRALIA PH: +61 7 38623346 USA Freecall: 1-877-292-1133 The Musicians Web Center - http://www.hitsquad.com http://www.SharewareMusicMachine.com - http://www.GuitarSite.com http://www.MP3Machine.com - http://www.MusiciansAvailable.com Music Software Weekly | Guitar News Weekly | The MP3 Informer __________________________________________________________________ From majordomo-users-owner Wed Feb 7 19:05:46 2001 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-980720-1) id SAA09597; Wed, 7 Feb 2001 18:45:11 -0800 (PST) Received: from arm.mrball.net (mrball.net [209.85.130.137]) by honor.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0FA5B17EC4 for ; Wed, 7 Feb 2001 18:45:02 -0800 (PST) Received: from mrball.net (todd.mrball.net [192.168.18.3]) by arm.mrball.net (8.11.2/8.11.2) with ESMTP id f182j3k14618 for ; Wed, 7 Feb 2001 18:45:03 -0800 Message-ID: <3A820827.6A78CAAF@mrball.net> Date: Wed, 07 Feb 2001 18:44:55 -0800 From: Todd Lyons X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (X11; U; Linux 2.2.14-zip i586) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Majordomo Users Subject: Bounce request Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk I had a user in my LUG list request that blank subject messages be bounced with an error message. Here is his request: > I have a feature-request for it. Can it be configured to > automatically reject submissions that have an empty Subject: line? > Perhaps it could send a msg back to the sender informing him/her that > a subject line is required, and that a ***descriptive subject line** > adds VALUE to the list. Seems VERY reasonable. I know I can bounce due to taboo headers such as "Subject:" with no text, but can you specify the bounce message? Or will it take a little bit of hacking? I don't know that I'm up to it as I'm not a perl wizard, not even an appretice. -- Blue skies... Todd | Get a bigger hammer! | Proponents of MIME in general e-mail | | http://www.mrball.net | can go multipart/encrypt themselves. | | http://faq.mrball.net | --Rick Moen | From majordomo-users-owner Wed Feb 7 19:35:12 2001 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-980720-1) id TAA09861; Wed, 7 Feb 2001 19:07:23 -0800 (PST) Received: from arm.mrball.net (mrball.net [209.85.130.137]) by honor.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B9CB817EC4 for ; Wed, 7 Feb 2001 19:07:17 -0800 (PST) Received: from mrball.net (todd.mrball.net [192.168.18.3]) by arm.mrball.net (8.11.2/8.11.2) with ESMTP id f1837Ck14686; Wed, 7 Feb 2001 19:07:13 -0800 Message-ID: <3A820D59.2355CE6B@mrball.net> Date: Wed, 07 Feb 2001 19:07:05 -0800 From: Todd Lyons X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (X11; U; Linux 2.2.14-zip i586) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Julie Xu Cc: majordomo-users@GreatCircle.COM Subject: Re: problem with archive References: <3.0.6.32.20010208111808.00bca190@sovereign.macarthur.uws.edu.au> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk Julie Xu wrote: > sell-archive: "|/home/majordomo/wrapper archive2.pl -f > /var/mail/lists/sell.archive -m -u" > But, when I try to send mail to this group, the archive file > will not be created into /var/mail/lists/sell.archive, instead, > it created in /var/mail/lists/. > What I have done wrong, please advice Post your sell-archive.config file. Remember to XXXXXX-out any passwords. -- Blue skies... Todd | Get a bigger hammer! | Proponents of MIME in general e-mail | | http://www.mrball.net | can go multipart/encrypt themselves. | | http://faq.mrball.net | --Rick Moen | From majordomo-users-owner Wed Feb 7 20:35:17 2001 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-980720-1) id UAA10671; Wed, 7 Feb 2001 20:17:15 -0800 (PST) Received: from netscape.com (r2d2.netscape.com [205.217.237.47]) by honor.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 517FE17EC4 for ; Wed, 7 Feb 2001 20:17:10 -0800 (PST) Received: from judge.mcom.com (judge.mcom.com [205.217.237.53]) by netscape.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with ESMTP id f184H7b08758 for ; Wed, 7 Feb 2001 20:17:08 -0800 (PST) Received: from netscape.com ([205.217.228.131]) by judge.mcom.com (Netscape Messaging Server 4.15) with ESMTP id G8F7WL00.LKR; Wed, 7 Feb 2001 20:17:09 -0800 Message-ID: <3A821CB9.E32E5A34@netscape.com> Date: Wed, 07 Feb 2001 22:12:41 -0600 From: dliston@netscape.com (Dan Liston) Organization: iPlanet eCommerce Solutions, A Sun-Netscape Alliance X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.75 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Christopher James Cc: majordomo-users@GreatCircle.COM Subject: Re: 3 bounce delete ?? References: <3.0.32.20010208104048.007421fc@imail.hitsquad.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk nope. Christopher James wrote: > > Can you set majordomo to like detect three bounces and if that occurs > delete that email address from the list ? From majordomo-users-owner Wed Feb 7 20:49:59 2001 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-980720-1) id UAA10607; Wed, 7 Feb 2001 20:12:53 -0800 (PST) Received: from netscape.com (r2d2.netscape.com [205.217.237.47]) by honor.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A41D617EC4 for ; Wed, 7 Feb 2001 20:12:47 -0800 (PST) Received: from judge.mcom.com (judge.mcom.com [205.217.237.53]) by netscape.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with ESMTP id f184Cjb07998 for ; Wed, 7 Feb 2001 20:12:45 -0800 (PST) Received: from netscape.com ([205.217.228.131]) by judge.mcom.com (Netscape Messaging Server 4.15) with ESMTP id G8F7PA02.CHK; Wed, 7 Feb 2001 20:12:46 -0800 Message-ID: <3A821C72.5F465DFF@netscape.com> Date: Wed, 07 Feb 2001 22:11:30 -0600 From: dliston@netscape.com (Dan Liston) Organization: iPlanet eCommerce Solutions, A Sun-Netscape Alliance X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.75 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Julie Xu Cc: majordomo-users@GreatCircle.COM Subject: Re: problem with archive References: <3.0.6.32.20010208111808.00bca190@sovereign.macarthur.uws.edu.au> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk Your sell-archive: alias is close, but not quite right. Try; sell-archive: "|/home/majordomo/wrapper archive2.pl -f /var/mail/lists/sell.archive/sell -a -M" assuming of course that in majordomo.cf your $filedir and $filedir_suffix are correct. Also, if you do not want sendmail to advertise your sell-outgoing address/alias in the headers of every piece of mail going to the list, you should add (,nobody) to your sell: alias. Like this; sell: "|/home/majordomo/wrapper resend -l sell sell-outgoing,nobody" Notice I left off the -h ob1.uws.edu.au. This belongs in the sell.config file as resend_host =. resend_host = obl.uws.edu.au Dan Liston Julie Xu wrote: > > Hi, > > I am new to mojordomo and have problem to create an archive. > > on the /etc/mail/aliases I have put: > sell-owner: owner@email.address > owner-sell: owner@email.address > sell-approval: owner@email.address > sell-request: "|/home/majordomo/wrapper request-answer sell" > sell-outgoing: :include:/var/mail/lists/sell, sell-archive > sell: "|/home/majordomo/wrapper resend -l sell -h ob1.uws.edu.au > sell-outgoing" > sell-archive: "|/home/majordomo/wrapper archive2.pl -f > /var/mail/lists/sell.archive -m -u" > > I have created the directory sell.archive in /var/mail/lists/ > and set it to 755. > > But, when I try to send mail to this group, the archive file > will not be created into /var/mail/lists/sell.archive, instead, > it created in /var/mail/lists/. > > What I have done wrong, please advice > > Any comments will be appreciated > > Thanks in advance > > Julie > > Julie Xu > > Unix/Network Administrator > Information Techonology Directorate > University of Westen Sydney, Campbelltown > Campbelltown NSW 2560 > > Phone: 61 02 4620-3098 > Email: j.xu@uws.edu.au From majordomo-users-owner Wed Feb 7 21:35:00 2001 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-980720-1) id VAA11286; Wed, 7 Feb 2001 21:13:12 -0800 (PST) Received: from phnxpop4.phnx.uswest.net (phnxpop4.phnx.uswest.net [206.80.192.4]) by honor.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with SMTP id 0F0AB17EC4 for ; Wed, 7 Feb 2001 21:13:06 -0800 (PST) Received: (qmail 35202 invoked by alias); 8 Feb 2001 05:12:19 -0000 Delivered-To: fixup-Majordomo-Users@GreatCircle.COM@fixme Received: (qmail 34845 invoked by uid 0); 8 Feb 2001 05:12:12 -0000 Received: from pav.atoznet.com (HELO atoznet.com) (63.230.201.229) by phnxpop4.phnx.uswest.net with SMTP; 8 Feb 2001 05:12:12 -0000 Message-ID: <3A822ADF.BE0EDB1@atoznet.com> Date: Wed, 07 Feb 2001 22:13:03 -0700 From: Clayton McGow X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.76 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "Majordomo-Users@GreatCircle.COM" Subject: newline char in footer? Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk Hello all, How can I include blank lines in the footer text? -- Clayton McGow mrwilder@atoznet.com From majordomo-users-owner Wed Feb 7 22:07:11 2001 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-980720-1) id VAA11616; Wed, 7 Feb 2001 21:47:29 -0800 (PST) Received: from netscape.com (r2d2.netscape.com [205.217.237.47]) by honor.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6BDDA17EC4 for ; Wed, 7 Feb 2001 21:47:23 -0800 (PST) Received: from judge.mcom.com (judge.mcom.com [205.217.237.53]) by netscape.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with ESMTP id f185lLb16289 for ; Wed, 7 Feb 2001 21:47:21 -0800 (PST) Received: from netscape.com ([205.217.228.131]) by judge.mcom.com (Netscape Messaging Server 4.15) with ESMTP id G8FC2Y02.2LE; Wed, 7 Feb 2001 21:47:22 -0800 Message-ID: <3A823298.F9493E3E@netscape.com> Date: Wed, 07 Feb 2001 23:46:00 -0600 From: dliston@netscape.com (Dan Liston) Organization: iPlanet eCommerce Solutions, A Sun-Netscape Alliance X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.75 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Todd Lyons Cc: Majordomo Users Subject: Re: Bounce request References: <3A820827.6A78CAAF@mrball.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk Be careful on your blank "Subject:" there Todd. This filter would actually look something like this; /^Subject:\s*(.no subject.)*$/i Note, netscape notices blank subjects on newly composed messages and offers a "(no subject)" subject instead. Some nimrods still just hit enter. (sigh) If outlook* does something similar, that can be caught too. So far, all this will do is bounce the message to the owner. Code must be inserted in resend to do anything different. Then again, there is already code in 1.94.5 (or is it a patch) to detect a blank subject when it comes to inserting "subject_prefix =". You could probably work from that. You might even just accept the message and prefix a humorous subject like; [$list: Ima Nimrod says...] ;) Dan Liston Todd Lyons wrote: > > I had a user in my LUG list request that blank subject messages be bounced > with an error message. Here is his request: > > > I have a feature-request for it. Can it be configured to > > automatically reject submissions that have an empty Subject: line? > > Perhaps it could send a msg back to the sender informing him/her that > > a subject line is required, and that a ***descriptive subject line** > > adds VALUE to the list. > > Seems VERY reasonable. I know I can bounce due to taboo headers such as > "Subject:" with no text, but can you specify the bounce message? Or will it > take a little bit of hacking? I don't know that I'm up to it as I'm not a > perl wizard, not even an appretice. > -- > Blue skies... Todd > | Get a bigger hammer! | Proponents of MIME in general e-mail | > | http://www.mrball.net | can go multipart/encrypt themselves. | > | http://faq.mrball.net | --Rick Moen | From majordomo-users-owner Wed Feb 7 23:36:26 2001 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-980720-1) id XAA12495; Wed, 7 Feb 2001 23:19:31 -0800 (PST) Received: from oubliette.darkspire.net (oubliette.darkspire.net [216.80.25.129]) by honor.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E6E6C17EC5 for ; Wed, 7 Feb 2001 23:19:22 -0800 (PST) Received: from stardust.darkspire.net ([216.80.25.138] ident=oneiros) by oubliette.darkspire.net with esmtp (angarius/aenigma) id 14QlMR-0001SG-00 for ; Thu, 08 Feb 2001 01:19:23 -0600 Received: (from oneiros@localhost) by stardust.darkspire.net (sol/avis) id BAA11721 for majordomo-users@greatcircle.com; Thu, 8 Feb 2001 01:19:21 -0600 (CST) Date: Thu, 8 Feb 2001 01:19:21 -0600 From: oneiros To: majordomo-users Subject: Re: newline char in footer? Message-ID: <20010208011921.A11678@stardust.darkspire.net> Mail-Followup-To: majordomo-users References: <3A822ADF.BE0EDB1@atoznet.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <3A822ADF.BE0EDB1@atoznet.com>; from mrwilder@atoznet.com on Wed, Feb 07, 2001 at 10:13:03PM -0700 Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk Thus spake Clayton McGow (mrwilder@atoznet.com): > How can I include blank lines in the footer text? A - (dash) on a line by itself. For instance: message_footer << END - your footer text. END That'll include a blank line before your footer. -- oneiros 1024D/62C2F77D url: http://oneiros.darkspire.net/ EBB8 AF14 8C43 2F12 7623 irc: EFnet / opn C0AA C0AE 56D4 62C2 F77D From majordomo-users-owner Wed Feb 7 23:50:06 2001 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-980720-1) id XAA12548; Wed, 7 Feb 2001 23:24:54 -0800 (PST) Received: from oubliette.darkspire.net (oubliette.darkspire.net [216.80.25.129]) by honor.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E762917EC4 for ; Wed, 7 Feb 2001 23:24:48 -0800 (PST) Received: from stardust.darkspire.net ([216.80.25.138] ident=oneiros) by oubliette.darkspire.net with esmtp (angarius/aenigma) id 14QlRi-0001SJ-00 for ; Thu, 08 Feb 2001 01:24:50 -0600 Received: (from oneiros@localhost) by stardust.darkspire.net (sol/avis) id BAA11752 for majordomo-users@greatcircle.com; Thu, 8 Feb 2001 01:24:50 -0600 (CST) Date: Thu, 8 Feb 2001 01:24:50 -0600 From: oneiros To: majordomo-users@greatcircle.com Subject: Re: 3 bounce delete ?? Message-ID: <20010208012449.B11678@stardust.darkspire.net> Mail-Followup-To: majordomo-users@greatcircle.com References: <3.0.32.20010208104048.007421fc@imail.hitsquad.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <3.0.32.20010208104048.007421fc@imail.hitsquad.com>; from chris@hitsquad.com on Thu, Feb 08, 2001 at 10:41:01AM +1000 Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk Thus spake Christopher James (chris@hitsquad.com): > Can you set majordomo to like detect three bounces and if that occurs > delete that email address from the list ? Take a look at bouncefilter . It's not 100% complete, however it works *very* well. You'll need to be comfortable with perl and make some modifications depending on your needs and setup... -- oneiros 1024D/62C2F77D url: http://oneiros.darkspire.net/ EBB8 AF14 8C43 2F12 7623 irc: EFnet / opn C0AA C0AE 56D4 62C2 F77D From majordomo-users-owner Thu Feb 8 00:03:56 2001 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-980720-1) id XAA12759; Wed, 7 Feb 2001 23:46:34 -0800 (PST) Received: from netscape.com (r2d2.netscape.com [205.217.237.47]) by honor.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9046917EC4 for ; Wed, 7 Feb 2001 23:46:28 -0800 (PST) Received: from judge.mcom.com (judge.mcom.com [205.217.237.53]) by netscape.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with ESMTP id f187kQb25175 for ; Wed, 7 Feb 2001 23:46:26 -0800 (PST) Received: from netscape.com ([205.217.228.131]) by judge.mcom.com (Netscape Messaging Server 4.15) with ESMTP id G8FHLG03.GK4; Wed, 7 Feb 2001 23:46:28 -0800 Message-ID: <3A824E7B.DC41597E@netscape.com> Date: Thu, 08 Feb 2001 01:44:59 -0600 From: dliston@netscape.com (Dan Liston) Organization: iPlanet eCommerce Solutions, A Sun-Netscape Alliance X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.75 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Clayton McGow Cc: "Majordomo-Users@GreatCircle.COM" Subject: Re: newline char in footer? References: <3A822ADF.BE0EDB1@atoznet.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk You just prefix a blank line with a - and it will be stripped from the footer before it is added to the end of the message. message_footer << END - - - - - END appends 6 blanks lines to a message resent through your list. The last line before END may be completely blank. Dan Liston Clayton McGow wrote: > > Hello all, > > How can I include blank lines in the footer text? > > -- > Clayton McGow > mrwilder@atoznet.com From majordomo-users-owner Thu Feb 8 01:49:08 2001 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-980720-1) id BAA14975; Thu, 8 Feb 2001 01:23:25 -0800 (PST) Received: from mcmail1.marshallcenter.org (mcmail1.marshallcenter.org [195.126.120.104]) by honor.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3F6F217EC8 for ; Thu, 8 Feb 2001 01:23:19 -0800 (PST) Received: by mcmail1.marshallcenter.org with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) id <1HANZ7NM>; Thu, 8 Feb 2001 10:23:15 +0100 Message-ID: <801F5BE83D86D411BB1E00D0B77E7C16590886@mcmail1.marshallcenter.org> From: "Hanson, (Not Major) David W. (Systems Support Branch)" To: "'Majordomo-Users@GreatCircle.COM'" Cc: "'Clayton McGow'" Subject: RE: newline char in footer? Date: Thu, 8 Feb 2001 10:23:13 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk If you put in a line that only contains a "-" character, MD will interpret it as a blank line... David Hanson George C. Marshall European Center for Security Studies Garmisch-Partenkirchen, Germany > -----Original Message----- > From: Clayton McGow [mailto:mrwilder@atoznet.com] > Sent: Thursday, February 08, 2001 5:13 AM > To: Majordomo-Users@GreatCircle.COM > Subject: newline char in footer? > > > Hello all, > > How can I include blank lines in the footer text? > > -- > Clayton McGow > mrwilder@atoznet.com > From majordomo-users-owner Thu Feb 8 12:06:36 2001 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-980720-1) id KAA22854; Thu, 8 Feb 2001 10:03:48 -0800 (PST) Received: from pisces.tecban.com.br (unknown [200.245.116.2]) by honor.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with SMTP id A795617EBC for ; Thu, 8 Feb 2001 10:03:39 -0800 (PST) Received: from [10.2.1.57] by pisces.tecban.com.br; Thu, 08 Feb 2001 18:59:24 GMT Received: from tecban.com.br ([10.2.2.10]) by tecban.com.br (Lotus Domino Release 5.0.5) with ESMTP id 2001020816000797:7143 ; Thu, 8 Feb 2001 16:00:07 -0400 Received: from tecban.com.br ([10.1.1.22]) by tecban.com.br (Netscape Mail Server v1.1) with ESMTP id AAA23884 for ; Thu, 8 Feb 2001 16:05:48 -0300 Received: from australis ([10.1.6.41]) by tecban.com.br (Netscape Mail Server v2.0) with SMTP id AAA20762 for ; Thu, 8 Feb 2001 16:03:46 -0200 Message-ID: <002301c091f8$83291b00$2906010a@tecban.com.br> Reply-To: "Luis Fernando Cerri" From: lfcerri@tecban.com.br (Luis Fernando Cerri) To: "Majordomo List" Subject: html archive Date: Thu, 8 Feb 2001 15:56:50 -0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3612.1700 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3612.1700 X-MIMETrack: Itemize by SMTP Server on andromeda/Tecban(Release 5.0.5 |September 22, 2000) at 02/08/2001 04:00:07 PM, Serialize by Router on andromeda/Tecban(Release 5.0.5 |September 22, 2000) at 02/08/2001 04:00:12 PM Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk Hi all, I'd like to know if there is any way to maintain an archive of my lists and show the messages using html format, history by date, thread and stuff... TIA. =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D Luis Fernando Cerri lfcerri@tecban.com.br (11)5504-1885 Equipe de Inova=E7=E3o Tecnol=F3gica Tecnologia Banc=E1ria S/A http://www.tecban.com.br From majordomo-users-owner Thu Feb 8 12:14:00 2001 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-980720-1) id KAA22954; Thu, 8 Feb 2001 10:12:35 -0800 (PST) Received: from pisces.tecban.com.br (unknown [200.245.116.2]) by honor.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with SMTP id CEF4C17EBC for ; Thu, 8 Feb 2001 10:12:25 -0800 (PST) Received: from [10.2.1.57] by pisces.tecban.com.br; Thu, 08 Feb 2001 19:08:10 GMT Received: from tecban.com.br ([10.2.2.10]) by tecban.com.br (Lotus Domino Release 5.0.5) with ESMTP id 2001020816080902:7160 ; Thu, 8 Feb 2001 16:08:09 -0400 Received: from tecban.com.br ([10.1.1.22]) by tecban.com.br (Netscape Mail Server v1.1) with ESMTP id AAA21950 for ; Thu, 8 Feb 2001 16:13:49 -0300 Received: from australis ([10.1.6.41]) by tecban.com.br (Netscape Mail Server v2.0) with SMTP id AAA21405 for ; Thu, 8 Feb 2001 16:11:46 -0200 Message-ID: <003101c091f9$a1c99200$2906010a@tecban.com.br> Reply-To: "Luis Fernando Cerri" From: lfcerri@tecban.com.br (Luis Fernando Cerri) To: "Majordomo List" Subject: html archive Date: Thu, 8 Feb 2001 16:04:51 -0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3612.1700 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3612.1700 X-MIMETrack: Itemize by SMTP Server on andromeda/Tecban(Release 5.0.5 |September 22, 2000) at 02/08/2001 04:08:09 PM, Serialize by Router on andromeda/Tecban(Release 5.0.5 |September 22, 2000) at 02/08/2001 04:08:58 PM Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk Hi all, I'd like to know if there is any way to maintain an archive of my lists and show the messages using html format, history by date, thread and stuff... TIA. =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D Luis Fernando Cerri lfcerri@tecban.com.br +55(11)5504-1885 Equipe de Inova=E7=E3o Tecnol=F3gica Tecnologia Banc=E1ria S/A http://www.tecban.com.br From majordomo-users-owner Thu Feb 8 15:29:45 2001 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-980720-1) id PAA26425; Thu, 8 Feb 2001 15:06:13 -0800 (PST) Received: from esson.net (unknown [216.102.129.43]) by honor.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id F313817EC8 for ; Thu, 8 Feb 2001 15:06:06 -0800 (PST) Received: from ekasky.wrenkasky.com (ekasky.usc.edu [128.125.63.168]) by esson.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA04933; Thu, 8 Feb 2001 15:06:01 -0800 Message-Id: <4.3.2.7.2.20010208145448.00b027c0@pop3.primenet.com> X-Sender: edkasky@pop3.primenet.com (Unverified) X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 4.3.2 Date: Thu, 08 Feb 2001 15:05:55 -0800 To: "Luis Fernando Cerri" , "Majordomo List" From: Ed Kasky Subject: Re: html archive In-Reply-To: <002301c091f8$83291b00$2906010a@tecban.com.br> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk From the Wilma README : Wilma is a set of Perl programs that combines (Majordomo) mail list archives, the MHonArc mail folder HTML reformatter, and the Glimpse search engine into a CGI interface for browsing and searching those archives. Wilma requires: Perl 5 (tested with 5.004_03) CGI.pm (part of the 5.004 distribution) AppCfg.pm (included) MHonArc (tested with 2.1.0) Glimpse (tested with 4.0B1)* Try Jason's Majordomo page - http://sina.tcamc.uh.edu/majordomo/ At 03:56 PM 2/8/2001 -0200, Luis Fernando Cerri wrote: >Hi all, > >I'd like to know if there is any way to maintain an archive of my lists and >show the messages using html format, history by date, thread and stuff... > >TIA. > >=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D >Luis Fernando Cerri >lfcerri@tecban.com.br >(11)5504-1885 >Equipe de Inova=E7=E3o Tecnol=F3gica >Tecnologia Banc=E1ria S/A >http://www.tecban.com.br From majordomo-users-owner Thu Feb 8 19:01:26 2001 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-980720-1) id SAA28597; Thu, 8 Feb 2001 18:46:46 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail1.averycounty.net (mail1.boone.net [216.128.204.3]) by honor.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 98A0517EB3 for ; Thu, 8 Feb 2001 18:46:39 -0800 (PST) Received: from mainbox (placehold23.twave.net [64.92.74.23] (may be forged)) by mail1.averycounty.net (Pro-8.9.3/Pro-8.9.3) with SMTP id VAA06927; Thu, 8 Feb 2001 21:47:12 -0500 Message-Id: <3.0.3.32.20010208214844.03422640@mail.boone.net> ReplyTo: rpero@boone.net X-Sender: rpero@mail.boone.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.3 (32) Date: Thu, 08 Feb 2001 21:48:44 -0500 To: "Luis Fernando Cerri" , "Majordomo List" From: Ron Pero Subject: Re: html archive In-Reply-To: <003101c091f9$a1c99200$2906010a@tecban.com.br> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk Majordomo has a way to facilitate this. I'm using hypermail for a current project, and it is quite good. www.hypermail.org. It also has links to other programs that do this. At the Majordomo site you may see a program called "Wilma" recommended. However, the author of Wilma recommends that it not be used. You can also search the archive of this list for "archive", but I think the two main ways are majordomo and hypermail. Ron At 04:04 PM 02/08/01 -0200, Luis Fernando Cerri wrote: >Hi all, > >I'd like to know if there is any way to maintain an archive of my lists and >show the messages using html format, history by date, thread and stuff... > >TIA. > >=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D >Luis Fernando Cerri >lfcerri@tecban.com.br >+55(11)5504-1885 >Equipe de Inova=E7=E3o Tecnol=F3gica >Tecnologia Banc=E1ria S/A >http://www.tecban.com.br > > > > From majordomo-users-owner Thu Feb 8 23:16:32 2001 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-980720-1) id WAA01132; Thu, 8 Feb 2001 22:55:51 -0800 (PST) Received: from sulphur.cix.co.uk (sulphur.cix.co.uk [212.35.225.149]) by honor.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id AFD6E17E8C for ; Thu, 8 Feb 2001 22:55:39 -0800 (PST) Received: from mesh--computer (5300-tele-1-cluster.242.ip-pool.cix.co.uk [194.153.22.242]) by sulphur.cix.co.uk (8.11.2/CIX/8.11.2) with SMTP id f196tRE28041; Fri, 9 Feb 2001 06:55:27 GMT X-Envelope-From: mwinnett@satchmo.win-uk.net Message-ID: <003601c09265$8ece70a0$0101a8c0@mesh--computer> From: "Mike Winnett" To: "Luis Fernando Cerri" , "Majordomo List" Subject: Re: html archive Date: Fri, 9 Feb 2001 06:41:02 -0000 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.2106.4 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk yes mhonarc, see http://www.satchmo.win-uk.net/arsehome/Arsenews.htm for a working example -----Original Message----- From: Luis Fernando Cerri To: Majordomo List Date: 08 February 2001 23:30 Subject: html archive Hi all, I'd like to know if there is any way to maintain an archive of my lists and show the messages using html format, history by date, thread and stuff... TIA. ============================== Luis Fernando Cerri lfcerri@tecban.com.br (11)5504-1885 Equipe de Inovação Tecnológica Tecnologia Bancária S/A http://www.tecban.com.br From majordomo-users-owner Thu Feb 8 23:30:20 2001 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-980720-1) id XAA01320; Thu, 8 Feb 2001 23:13:54 -0800 (PST) Received: from esson.net (unknown [216.102.129.43]) by honor.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B9CB117E8C for ; Thu, 8 Feb 2001 23:13:48 -0800 (PST) Received: from eds.wrenkasky.com (eds.wrenkasky.com [10.10.10.11]) by esson.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id XAA05399; Thu, 8 Feb 2001 23:13:47 -0800 Message-Id: <4.3.2.7.2.20010208231225.00b42b28@pop.primenet.com> X-Sender: edkasky@pop.primenet.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 4.3.2 Date: Thu, 08 Feb 2001 23:13:43 -0800 To: rpero@boone.net, majordomo-users@GreatCircle.COM From: Ed Kasky Subject: Re: html archive In-Reply-To: <3.0.3.32.20010208214844.03422640@mail.boone.net> References: <003101c091f9$a1c99200$2906010a@tecban.com.br> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk At 09:48 PM Thursday, 2/8/2001, Ron Pero wrote -=> >At the Majordomo site you may see a program called "Wilma" recommended. >However, the author of Wilma recommends that it not be used. Why is that? I have been using it for about a year with no problems... Ed Kasky Los Angeles, CA . . . . . . . . On the other hand, you have different fingers. From majordomo-users-owner Thu Feb 8 23:49:13 2001 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-980720-1) id WAA01089; Thu, 8 Feb 2001 22:52:48 -0800 (PST) Received: from penguin.iceberg (203-79-84-50.adsl.paradise.net.nz [203.79.84.50]) by honor.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id EB01617E8C for ; Thu, 8 Feb 2001 22:52:41 -0800 (PST) Received: from dolphin.core-dev.co.nz (dolphin.iceberg [192.168.1.20]) by penguin.iceberg (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian 8.9.3-21) with ESMTP id TAA02075 for ; Fri, 9 Feb 2001 19:52:38 +1300 X-Authentication-Warning: penguin.iceberg: Host dolphin.iceberg [192.168.1.20] claimed to be dolphin.core-dev.co.nz Message-Id: <4.3.2.7.2.20010209195357.06da2e50@penguin> X-Sender: will@penguin X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 4.3.2 Date: Fri, 09 Feb 2001 19:55:48 +1300 To: majordomo-users@GreatCircle.COM From: Will Bryant Subject: Re: html archive In-Reply-To: <3.0.3.32.20010208214844.03422640@mail.boone.net> References: <003101c091f9$a1c99200$2906010a@tecban.com.br> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk >You can also search the archive of this list for "archive", but I think the >two main ways are majordomo and hypermail. I think you're getting the archiving, as in, saving all the messages into files or a folder, and archiving as in displaying it on the web. The best way IMHO is to use the archive script that comes with majordomo, and then to have this converted to web pages using something like mhonarc. MHonArc is by far the most flexible and configurable of the archive-to-html converters, so I'd strongly recommend it over Wilma, Hypermail etc. _______________________________________________________________________ Will Bryant, will@core-dev.co.nz cell +64 21 655 443 http://www.core-dev.co.nz/ Personal: http://www.core-dev.co.nz/will/ ShareChat Ltd. technical manager http://www.sharechat.co.nz/ [PGP 0x96A7F40A, FP 827F A2A9 C718 106D 8F80 E16E A244 D5F2 96A7 F40A] From majordomo-users-owner Fri Feb 9 03:46:28 2001 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-980720-1) id DAA06876; Fri, 9 Feb 2001 03:24:18 -0800 (PST) Received: from penguin.iceberg (203-79-84-50.adsl.paradise.net.nz [203.79.84.50]) by honor.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3E22217E8E for ; Fri, 9 Feb 2001 03:23:58 -0800 (PST) Received: from dolphin.core-dev.co.nz (dolphin.iceberg [192.168.1.20]) by penguin.iceberg (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian 8.9.3-21) with ESMTP id AAA02712 for ; Sat, 10 Feb 2001 00:23:57 +1300 X-Authentication-Warning: penguin.iceberg: Host dolphin.iceberg [192.168.1.20] claimed to be dolphin.core-dev.co.nz Message-Id: <4.3.2.7.2.20010210002617.02fe1150@penguin> X-Sender: will@penguin X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 4.3.2 Date: Sat, 10 Feb 2001 00:27:09 +1300 To: majordomo-users@GreatCircle.COM From: Will Bryant Subject: Re: html archive In-Reply-To: <4.3.2.7.2.20010209195357.06da2e50@penguin> References: <3.0.3.32.20010208214844.03422640@mail.boone.net> <003101c091f9$a1c99200$2906010a@tecban.com.br> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk >I think you're getting the archiving, as in, saving all the messages into >files or a folder, and archiving as in displaying it on the web. sorry there was meant to be a ", confused" at the end of that sentence - I think you're getting the archiving as in saving all the messages into files or a folder, and archiving as in displaying it on the web, confused. _______________________________________________________________________ Will Bryant, will@core-dev.co.nz cell +64 21 655 443 http://www.core-dev.co.nz/ Personal: http://www.core-dev.co.nz/will/ ShareChat Ltd. technical manager http://www.sharechat.co.nz/ [PGP 0x96A7F40A, FP 827F A2A9 C718 106D 8F80 E16E A244 D5F2 96A7 F40A] From majordomo-users-owner Fri Feb 9 07:55:54 2001 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-980720-1) id HAA09447; Fri, 9 Feb 2001 07:36:01 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail1.averycounty.net (mail1.boone.net [216.128.204.3]) by honor.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C155A17E8E for ; Fri, 9 Feb 2001 07:35:54 -0800 (PST) Received: from mainbox (placehold18.twave.net [64.92.74.18] (may be forged)) by mail1.averycounty.net (Pro-8.9.3/Pro-8.9.3) with SMTP id KAA21128; Fri, 9 Feb 2001 10:36:14 -0500 Message-Id: <3.0.3.32.20010209103747.035ad020@mail.boone.net> ReplyTo: rpero@boone.net X-Sender: rpero@mail.boone.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.3 (32) Date: Fri, 09 Feb 2001 10:37:47 -0500 To: Will Bryant , majordomo-users@GreatCircle.COM From: Ron Pero Subject: Re: html archive In-Reply-To: <4.3.2.7.2.20010209195357.06da2e50@penguin> References: <3.0.3.32.20010208214844.03422640@mail.boone.net> <003101c091f9$a1c99200$2906010a@tecban.com.br> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk Yes, forgot about MHonArc. The reason I went with hypermail is that I do not already have majordomo installed, so it seemed like a simpler route. I do not know why the author of Wilma, Jason Tibbitts, recommends not using Wilma. He just said so in an email to me, and I dropped the subject. Ron At 07:55 PM 02/09/01 +1300, Will Bryant wrote: > >>You can also search the archive of this list for "archive", but I think the >>two main ways are majordomo and hypermail. >I think you're getting the archiving, as in, saving all the messages into >files or a folder, and archiving as in displaying it on the web. > >The best way IMHO is to use the archive script that comes with majordomo, >and then to have this converted to web pages using something like >mhonarc. MHonArc is by far the most flexible and configurable of the >archive-to-html converters, so I'd strongly recommend it over Wilma, >Hypermail etc. > >_______________________________________________________________________ >Will Bryant, will@core-dev.co.nz cell +64 21 655 443 >http://www.core-dev.co.nz/ Personal: http://www.core-dev.co.nz/will/ >ShareChat Ltd. technical manager http://www.sharechat.co.nz/ >[PGP 0x96A7F40A, FP 827F A2A9 C718 106D 8F80 E16E A244 D5F2 96A7 F40A] > > > From majordomo-users-owner Sat Feb 10 02:56:16 2001 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-980720-1) id XAA07394; Fri, 9 Feb 2001 23:52:23 -0800 (PST) Received: from daniel.sonny.org (daniel-1.suxcpe.cableone.net [24.116.56.30]) by honor.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B420A17EB1 for ; Fri, 9 Feb 2001 23:52:17 -0800 (PST) Received: from netscape.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by daniel.sonny.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id BAA31898; Sat, 10 Feb 2001 01:52:09 -0600 Message-ID: <3A84F329.DAD1EE4A@netscape.com> Date: Sat, 10 Feb 2001 01:52:09 -0600 From: "D. Liston" Organization: iPlanet E-Commerce Solutions, A Sun Netscape Alliance X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.75 [en] (X11; U; Linux 2.2.16-3 i686) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Julie Xu , Majordomo Users Subject: Re: problem with archive References: <3.0.6.32.20010208111808.00bca190@sovereign.macarthur.uws.edu.au> <3.0.6.32.20010209143241.00b9fb80@sovereign.macarthur.uws.edu.au> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk Here is your answer, quoted directly from the text in archive2.pl; # archive -f {-u|-a} [-d|-m|-y] [file ...] # -f REQUIRED; specifies base file name for archive # -u Input is a UNIX archive (separated by "From " lines) to split # -a Input is a message to append to archive # -d Archive file is .YYMMDD # -D Archive file is .YYYYMMDD # -m Archive file is .YYMM # -M Archive file is .YYYYMM # -y Archive file is .YY # -Y Archive file is .YYYY # Exactly one of "-u" or "-a" must be specified. # At most one of "-d", "-D", "-m", "-M", "-y", or "-Y" may be specified; # if none is specified, archive name is simply # # An example of using "archive" to split an existing UNIX-style archive # named "my-list.archive" into by-day archive files named "my-list.YYMMDD": # # archive -f my-list -d -u my-list.archive # # A sample /etc/aliases file entry to use "archive" add each incoming message # to a "my-list.YYMM" file in the "/usr/local/mail/lists/my-list.archive" # directory: # # my-list-archive: "|/usr/local/mail/majordomo/wrapper archive # -f /usr/local/mail/lists/my-list.archive/my-list # -m -a" The reason I recommend -M vs. -m is just a y2k compliance setting. Dan Liston Julie Xu wrote: > > Dan, > > Thanks for reply, what is means for "-a -M" > > Regards > > Julie > > At 10:11 PM 2/7/01 -0600, you wrote: > >Your sell-archive: alias is close, but not quite right. Try; > > > >sell-archive: "|/home/majordomo/wrapper archive2.pl -f > /var/mail/lists/sell.archive/sell -a -M" > > > >assuming of course that in majordomo.cf your $filedir and $filedir_suffix > are correct. > > > >Also, if you do not want sendmail to advertise your sell-outgoing > address/alias in the headers > >of every piece of mail going to the list, you should add (,nobody) to your > sell: alias. Like this; > > > >sell: "|/home/majordomo/wrapper resend -l sell sell-outgoing,nobody" > > > >Notice I left off the -h ob1.uws.edu.au. This belongs in the sell.config > file as resend_host =. > > > >resend_host = obl.uws.edu.au > > > > > >Dan Liston > > > >Julie Xu wrote: > >> > >> Hi, > >> > >> I am new to mojordomo and have problem to create an archive. > >> > >> on the /etc/mail/aliases I have put: > >> sell-owner: owner@email.address > >> owner-sell: owner@email.address > >> sell-approval: owner@email.address > >> sell-request: "|/home/majordomo/wrapper request-answer sell" > >> sell-outgoing: :include:/var/mail/lists/sell, sell-archive > >> sell: "|/home/majordomo/wrapper resend -l sell -h ob1.uws.edu.au > >> sell-outgoing" > >> sell-archive: "|/home/majordomo/wrapper archive2.pl -f > >> /var/mail/lists/sell.archive -m -u" > >> > >> I have created the directory sell.archive in /var/mail/lists/ > >> and set it to 755. > >> > >> But, when I try to send mail to this group, the archive file > >> will not be created into /var/mail/lists/sell.archive, instead, > >> it created in /var/mail/lists/. > >> > >> What I have done wrong, please advice > >> > >> Any comments will be appreciated > >> > >> Thanks in advance > >> From majordomo-users-owner Sat Feb 10 19:41:02 2001 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-980720-1) id TAA24963; Sat, 10 Feb 2001 19:34:04 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail.naisp.net (mail.naisp.net [216.129.152.3]) by honor.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id AF7F817EB0 for ; Sat, 10 Feb 2001 19:33:56 -0800 (PST) Received: from naisp.net (5812-001-229.024.popsite.net [66.19.1.229]) by mail.naisp.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id WAA05354 for ; Sat, 10 Feb 2001 22:33:53 -0500 Message-ID: <3A855EF2.D4CD000@naisp.net> Date: Sat, 10 Feb 2001 10:32:02 -0500 From: KompuKit Organization: KompuKit X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.75 [en] (X11; U; Linux 2.2.17-21mdk i586) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: MajorDomo-Users Subject: setup help Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk I've got Majordomo 1.94.4-8.i386.rpm installed on Mandrake 7.2 along with Sendmail 8.9.3 I created a list called : mandrakeusers I use webmin to manage it... I just got the following error back when testing it... how do I fix this? The original message was received at Sat, 10 Feb 2001 22:27:24 -0500 from 5812-001-229.024.popsite.net [66.19.1.229] ----- The following addresses had permanent fatal errors ----- ----- Transcript of session follows ----- ... while talking to kompukit.dyndns.org.: >>> RCPT To: <<< 550 ... User unknown 550 ... User unknown ----- Original message follows ----- Return-Path: Received: from naisp.net (5812-001-229.024.popsite.net [66.19.1.229]) by mail.naisp.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id WAA05118 for ; Sat, 10 Feb 2001 22:27:24 -0500 Sender: kit Message-ID: <3A855D6E.FF40628B@naisp.net> Date: Sat, 10 Feb 2001 10:25:34 -0500 From: KompuKit Organization: KompuKit X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.75 [en] (X11; U; Linux 2.2.17-21mdk i586) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: MandrakeUsers Subject: test Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit test -- Registered Linux User: 167369 <============= http://www.kompukit.com =============> kit@kompukit.com ICQ# 7110071 Personal WebServer: http://kompukit.dyndns.org WebDesigner: http://www.kompukit.com/kitdesigns (Personal Server runs: M-F= 7pm-12am & S+S=12pm-12am) From majordomo-users-owner Sun Feb 11 11:33:31 2001 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-980720-1) id KAA07409; Sun, 11 Feb 2001 10:52:44 -0800 (PST) Received: from ns.shellworld.net (ns.shellworld.net [64.29.16.176]) by honor.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3FD0B17EAF for ; Sun, 11 Feb 2001 10:52:38 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (admin@localhost) by ns.shellworld.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA26804 for ; Sun, 11 Feb 2001 13:52:40 -0500 Date: Sun, 11 Feb 2001 12:52:40 -0600 (CST) From: Ken Scott To: Subject: Problem with Majordomo and Red Hat Linux Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk I've instale I've been all through the docs, but while I see some subtle references to my problem, I can't find anything to tell me how to resolve it. If I'm missing something, I apologize. I've installed v1.94.5 under Red Hat Linux v6.1. Specifically, the installation was done using an rpm (majordomo-1.94.5-2.i386.rpm). All the necessary aliases have been created, and config-test reports no problems. Still, when sending mail to majordomo, I get this sort of error in return: ----- The following addresses had permanent fatal errors ----- "|/usr/lib/majordomo/wrapper majordomo" (expanded from: majordomo@shellworld.net) ----- Transcript of session follows ----- 554 "|/usr/lib/majordomo/wrapper majordomo"... unknown mailer error 1 I'm thinking that maybe I need to specify majordomo in /etc/mail/mailertable, but I can't get the syntax of it down to where it will work. If I'm on the right track here, could somebody let me know exaactly how that entry needs to look, and if I'm not, could somebody let me know what I need to be doing that I'm not to get the problem solved? Thanks very much in advance for any help. -- Ken, admin@shellworld.net From majordomo-users-owner Sun Feb 11 11:43:27 2001 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-980720-1) id LAA07828; Sun, 11 Feb 2001 11:27:38 -0800 (PST) Received: from arm.mrball.net (mrball.net [209.85.130.137]) by honor.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E4B3B17EAF for ; Sun, 11 Feb 2001 11:27:32 -0800 (PST) Received: from mrball.net (todd.mrball.net [192.168.18.3]) by arm.mrball.net (8.11.2/8.11.2) with ESMTP id f1BJRWd25587; Sun, 11 Feb 2001 11:27:32 -0800 Message-ID: <3A86E7A3.F57445B5@mrball.net> Date: Sun, 11 Feb 2001 11:27:31 -0800 From: Todd Lyons X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (X11; U; Linux 2.2.14-zip i586) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: KompuKit Cc: MajorDomo-Users Subject: Re: setup help References: <3A855EF2.D4CD000@naisp.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk KompuKit wrote: > ... while talking to kompukit.dyndns.org.: > >>> RCPT To: > <<< 550 ... User unknown > 550 ... User unknown This is a sendmail configuration error. Post the contents of your alias file(s). You don't need to create a user named mandrakeusers, but if you want it, it will probably show you that you have aliases problem. You might need to run newaliases (which you must do after each edit of the aliases file). Are you using just an aliases file or do you use a majordomo.aliases as well? Did you tell sendmail that you are using 2 alias files? If you are using this machine to forward list mail to another mail machine, you will need to look into generics and virtuser. Finally, I did an MX lookup on kompukit.dyndns.org. It returned nothing which means that anything going to kompukit.dyndns.org will (attempt to) get delivered to whatever the MX is for dyndns.org. I doubt this is what you want. Modify your dyndns.org to create an MX record for kompukit.dyndns.org and make it point to kompukit.dyndns.org (if dyndns.org allows you to do this). -- Blue skies... Todd | Get a bigger hammer! | Never mind me. I'm speaking out of | | http://www.mrball.net | my /dev/ass anyway. | | http://faq.mrball.net | --Gash Teshome | From majordomo-users-owner Sun Feb 11 11:57:51 2001 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-980720-1) id KAA07229; Sun, 11 Feb 2001 10:38:19 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail1.panix.com (mail1.panix.com [166.84.0.212]) by honor.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5359717E8C for ; Sun, 11 Feb 2001 10:38:13 -0800 (PST) Received: from panix.com (mail2.panix.com [166.84.0.213]) by mail1.panix.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1173448D5E; Sun, 11 Feb 2001 13:36:22 -0500 (EST) Received: from panix.com (pyz.dialup.access.net [166.84.202.155]) by panix.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A41CC43B32; Sun, 11 Feb 2001 13:36:19 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <3A86DAE8.8F73D36C@panix.com> Date: Sun, 11 Feb 2001 13:33:12 -0500 From: Max Pyziur Organization: BRAMA - Gateway Ukraine X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (X11; I; Linux 2.0.36 i686) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: KompuKit Cc: MajorDomo-Users Subject: Re: setup help References: <3A855EF2.D4CD000@naisp.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk KompuKit wrote: > > I've got Majordomo 1.94.4-8.i386.rpm installed on Mandrake 7.2 > along with Sendmail 8.9.3 > > I created a list called : mandrakeusers > I use webmin to manage it... > > I just got the following error back when testing it... > how do I fix this? Check to see if your aliases file (usually located in /etc/mail) is setup. It should have something like: owner-mandrakeusers: kompukit@naisp.net,nobody mandrakeusers: "|/path/to/wrapper resend @/path/to/lists/lists/mandrakeusers.resend" mandrakeusers-approval: owner-mandrakeusers mandrakeusers-itdo: :include:/path/to/lists/lists/mandrakeusers,mandrakeusers-archive owner-mandrakeusers-itdo: owner-mandrakeusers mandrakeusers-request: "/path/to/wrapper request-answer mandrakeusers" owner-mandrakeusers-request: owner-mandrakeusers mandrakeusers-archive: "|/path/to/wrapper archive -f /path/to/lists/archives/mandrakeusers.archive/ mandrakeusers -m -a" Make sure that paths are correct and that you run newaliases (successfully) after you've modified the aliases file. In my experience, majordomo and sendmail offer some of the biggest challenges to configurations (compared to things like apache, postgres, mhonarc, 1/2 a million public-domain cgi-perl scripts. It takes a bit of time, but majordomo does work, and very well. -- Max Pyziur BRAMA - Gateway Ukraine pyz@brama.com http://www.brama.com/ > The original message was received at Sat, 10 Feb 2001 22:27:24 -0500 > from 5812-001-229.024.popsite.net [66.19.1.229] > > ----- The following addresses had permanent fatal errors ----- > > > ----- Transcript of session follows ----- > ... while talking to kompukit.dyndns.org.: > >>> RCPT To: > <<< 550 ... User unknown > 550 ... User unknown > > ----- Original message follows ----- > > Return-Path: > Received: from naisp.net (5812-001-229.024.popsite.net [66.19.1.229]) > by mail.naisp.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id WAA05118 > for ; Sat, 10 Feb 2001 > 22:27:24 -0500 > Sender: kit > Message-ID: <3A855D6E.FF40628B@naisp.net> > Date: Sat, 10 Feb 2001 10:25:34 -0500 > From: KompuKit > Organization: KompuKit > X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.75 [en] (X11; U; Linux 2.2.17-21mdk i586) > X-Accept-Language: en > MIME-Version: 1.0 > To: MandrakeUsers > Subject: test > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii > Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > > test > -- > Registered Linux User: 167369 > <============= http://www.kompukit.com =============> > kit@kompukit.com ICQ# 7110071 > Personal WebServer: http://kompukit.dyndns.org > WebDesigner: http://www.kompukit.com/kitdesigns > (Personal Server runs: M-F= 7pm-12am & S+S=12pm-12am) From majordomo-users-owner Sun Feb 11 12:12:54 2001 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-980720-1) id MAA08292; Sun, 11 Feb 2001 12:04:41 -0800 (PST) Received: from arm.mrball.net (mrball.net [209.85.130.137]) by honor.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 53FE217E8C for ; Sun, 11 Feb 2001 12:04:35 -0800 (PST) Received: from mrball.net (todd.mrball.net [192.168.18.3]) by arm.mrball.net (8.11.2/8.11.2) with ESMTP id f1BK4Zd25671; Sun, 11 Feb 2001 12:04:35 -0800 Message-ID: <3A86F053.37073162@mrball.net> Date: Sun, 11 Feb 2001 12:04:35 -0800 From: Todd Lyons X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (X11; U; Linux 2.2.14-zip i586) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: KompuKit , Majordomo Users Subject: Re: setup help References: <3A855EF2.D4CD000@naisp.net> <3A86E7A3.F57445B5@mrball.net> <3A864077.3F49B7CC@naisp.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk KompuKit wrote: > attached is my sendmail aliases file. I'm replying back to the list (for a couple of reasons). > I don't have a MX record..been trying to learn how to do that...can you > help me? You need to read up on bind a little before you start trying to configure name server MX's. I looked around but couldn't find anything that was concise, so I'll recommend some books and then tell you what I *think* you need. Note that if my recommendation doesn't work, then I can't help because I do not know how/if dyndns.org allows you to configure your system. Also remember that I am recommending a fix for a problem you don't have yet (the first one). 1) Books: DNS & Bind (3rd Edition) from O-Reilly Publishing Linux DNS Server Administration from Sybex Any Linux book like "Using Linux" or "Linux Administration, A Beginners Guide" 2) You need to point the MX record for kompukit.dyndns.org to kompukit.dyndns.org. The zone file would look like: kompukit.dyndns.org. IN MX kompukit.dyndns.org. Note the trailing dots. I really doubt that dyndns.org will let you directly edit their zone files. Instead, it will be some sort of webbased form that takes care of everything for you, or email to somebody@dyndns.org >From your aliases file: > Majordomo-Owner: kompukit@naisp.net > Majordomo: "|/usr/lib/majordomo/wrapper majordomo" It's best not to capitalize. Do you have a link in /etc/smrsh to /usr/lib/majordomo/wrapper? (You're not getting that error, but you might if you get past the current error--this is the second potential problem that you don't have yet). > mandrakeusers: "|/usr/lib/majordomo/wrapper resend -l mandrakeusers mandrakeusers-list" > mandrakeusers-list: :include:/var/lib/majordomo/lists/mandrakeusers > owner-mandrakeusers: kompukit@naisp.net > mandrakeusers-owner: kompukit@naisp.net > mandrakeusers-approval: kompukit@naisp.net > mandrakeusers-request: "|/usr/lib/majordomo/wrapper majordomo -l mandrakeusers" Try using a TAB instead of a SPACE after the ":". -- Blue skies... Todd | Get a bigger hammer! | Never mind me. I'm speaking out of | | http://www.mrball.net | my /dev/ass anyway. | | http://faq.mrball.net | --Gash Teshome | From majordomo-users-owner Sun Feb 11 16:44:18 2001 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-980720-1) id QAA11345; Sun, 11 Feb 2001 16:35:41 -0800 (PST) Received: from mta5.rcsntx.swbell.net (mta5.rcsntx.swbell.net [151.164.30.29]) by honor.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 156E917E8B for ; Sun, 11 Feb 2001 16:35:34 -0800 (PST) Received: from swbell.net ([216.63.79.227]) by mta5.rcsntx.swbell.net (Sun Internet Mail Server sims.3.5.2000.01.05.12.18.p9) with ESMTP id <0G8M00CBPC40PT@mta5.rcsntx.swbell.net> for majordomo-users@greatcircle.com; Sun, 11 Feb 2001 18:31:12 -0600 (CST) Date: Sun, 11 Feb 2001 18:33:07 -0600 From: Bill Polhemus Subject: Re: setup help To: Todd Lyons Cc: KompuKit , Majordomo Users Message-id: <3A872F43.AE61053F@swbell.net> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.76 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-Accept-Language: en,pdf References: <3A855EF2.D4CD000@naisp.net> <3A86E7A3.F57445B5@mrball.net> <3A864077.3F49B7CC@naisp.net> <3A86F053.37073162@mrball.net> Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk That's not necessarily so. I use a commercial DNS service, for example, and all I have to do is use their friendly little DNS record editor which is accessed via web browser, to add or edit records of all kinds. Todd Lyons wrote: > > I don't have a MX record..been trying to learn how to do that...can you > > help me? > > You need to read up on bind a little before you start trying to configure > name server MX's. From majordomo-users-owner Sun Feb 11 20:42:38 2001 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-980720-1) id UAA13823; Sun, 11 Feb 2001 20:33:11 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail.naisp.net (mail.naisp.net [216.129.152.3]) by honor.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id BF2B117EE4 for ; Sun, 11 Feb 2001 20:33:04 -0800 (PST) Received: from naisp.net (5812-001-229.024.popsite.net [66.19.1.229]) by mail.naisp.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id XAA27968 for ; Sun, 11 Feb 2001 23:33:05 -0500 Message-ID: <3A86BE58.20D2A90A@naisp.net> Date: Sun, 11 Feb 2001 11:31:20 -0500 From: KompuKit Organization: KompuKit X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.75 [en] (X11; U; Linux 2.2.17-21mdk i586) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: MajorDomo-Users Subject: [Fwd: Returned mail: User unknown] Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------39608B0D9822C975F28FD8B0" Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------39608B0D9822C975F28FD8B0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Below is the error...I just got when testing my new list. attached is an error I got when performing "newaliases" what's going on...and how do i fix??????? Mail Delivery Subsystem wrote: > > The original message was received at Sun, 11 Feb 2001 23:26:45 -0500 > from 5812-001-229.024.popsite.net [66.19.1.229] > > ----- The following addresses had permanent fatal errors ----- > > > ----- Transcript of session follows ----- > ... while talking to kompukit.dyndns.org.: > >>> RCPT To: > <<< 550 ... User unknown > 550 ... User unknown > > ----- Original message follows ----- > > Return-Path: > Received: from naisp.net (5812-001-229.024.popsite.net [66.19.1.229]) > by mail.naisp.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id XAA27757 > for ; Sun, 11 Feb 2001 23:26:45 -0500 > Sender: kit > Message-ID: <3A86BCE0.2202AD0F@naisp.net> > Date: Sun, 11 Feb 2001 11:25:04 -0500 > From: KompuKit > Organization: KompuKit > X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.75 [en] (X11; U; Linux 2.2.17-21mdk i586) > X-Accept-Language: en > MIME-Version: 1.0 > To: mandrakeusers@kompukit.dyndns.org > Subject: test > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii > Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > > test > -- > Registered Linux User: 167369 > <============= http://www.kompukit.com =============> > kit@kompukit.com ICQ# 7110071 > Personal WebServer: http://kompukit.dyndns.org > WebDesigner: http://www.kompukit.com/kitdesigns > (Personal Server runs: M-F= 7pm-12am & S+S=12pm-12am) -- Registered Linux User: 167369 <============= http://www.kompukit.com =============> kit@kompukit.com ICQ# 7110071 Personal WebServer: http://kompukit.dyndns.org WebDesigner: http://www.kompukit.com/kitdesigns (Personal Server runs: M-F= 7pm-12am & S+S=12pm-12am) --------------39608B0D9822C975F28FD8B0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; name="newaliases.txt" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline; filename="newaliases.txt" [root@kompukit kit]# /usr/bin/newaliases hash map "Alias0": unsafe map file /etc/aliases.db: Symbolic links not allowed WARNING: cannot open alias database /etc/aliases Cannot create database for alias file /etc/aliases [root@kompukit kit]# --------------39608B0D9822C975F28FD8B0-- From majordomo-users-owner Mon Feb 12 05:01:51 2001 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-980720-1) id EAA22378; Mon, 12 Feb 2001 04:49:28 -0800 (PST) Received: from mta5.rcsntx.swbell.net (mta5.rcsntx.swbell.net [151.164.30.29]) by honor.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C0D8C17EBB for ; Mon, 12 Feb 2001 04:49:22 -0800 (PST) Received: from swbell.net ([216.63.79.227]) by mta5.rcsntx.swbell.net (Sun Internet Mail Server sims.3.5.2000.01.05.12.18.p9) with ESMTP id <0G8N001EUA6S46@mta5.rcsntx.swbell.net> for majordomo-users@greatcircle.com; Mon, 12 Feb 2001 06:47:16 -0600 (CST) Date: Mon, 12 Feb 2001 06:49:09 -0600 From: Bill Polhemus Subject: Re: [Fwd: Returned mail: User unknown] To: KompuKit , majordomo-users@greatcircle.com Message-id: <3A87DBC5.58B28671@swbell.net> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.76 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-Accept-Language: en,pdf References: <3A86BE58.20D2A90A@naisp.net> Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk I definitely think the problem lies in the domain name that is going out as your address. For example, not long ago when REsetting-up my Mj installation after a major crash, I got similar error messages. The problem was that for some reason, the messages were going out from Mj as "somebody@hostmachine.mydomain.tld" instead of "somebody@mydomain.tld". I'm still not sure why. I simply added a CNAME record to my DNS SOA, like: hostmachine.mydomain.tld CNAME mydomain.tld This allows DNS to know where hostmachine.mydomain.tld is located (resolves). After that, there were no more problems. In short, I think this is a DNS problem, not Majordomo. KompuKit wrote: > > Below is the error...I just got when testing my new list. > attached is an error I got when performing "newaliases" > what's going on...and how do i fix??????? From majordomo-users-owner Mon Feb 12 07:28:45 2001 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-980720-1) id GAA23735; Mon, 12 Feb 2001 06:53:40 -0800 (PST) Received: from ns2.intra.cnv.at (unknown [212.51.224.163]) by honor.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C6D6817EBB for ; Mon, 12 Feb 2001 06:53:32 -0800 (PST) Received: by relay.cnv.at; Mon, 12 Feb 2001 15:54:08 +0100 Received: by mail.intra.cnv.at with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) id <1ZTK3Y88>; Mon, 12 Feb 2001 15:53:34 +0100 Message-ID: <8D0C388E362DD211AC0300A0C96029DE744EB0@mail.intra.cnv.at> From: "Fritz Thomas (VTG)" To: "'majordomo-users@GreatCircle.COM'" Subject: smrsh: uid 2: attempt to use wrapper majordomo ??? Date: Mon, 12 Feb 2001 15:53:32 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk Hi there! These are the lines in the maillog (sendmail 8.11.2) when I do a `echo "lists" | mail majordomo`: Feb 8 17:36:40 longboy sendmail[23182]: f18Gaes23182: from=majordomo, size=21, class=0, nrcpts=1, msgid=<200102081636.f18Gaes23182@longboy.foo.bar>, relay=majordomo@localhost Feb 8 17:36:40 longboy sendmail[23182]: f18Gaet23182: clone f18Gaes23182, owner=owner-majordomo Feb 8 17:36:40 longboy smrsh: uid 2: attempt to use wrapper majordomo Feb 8 17:36:40 longboy sendmail[23184]: f18Gaet23182: to=|"/usr/local/majordomo-1.94.5/wrapper majordomo", ctladdr=majordomo (2/0), delay=00:00:00, xdelay=00:00:00, mailer=prog, pri=30021, dsn=5.0.0, stat=Service unavailable I have: [root@longboy /root]# ls -l /usr/adm/sm.bin/ total 0 lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 35 Feb 8 17:35 wrapper -> /usr/local/majordomo-1.94.5/wrapper [root@longboy /root]# ls -l /usr/local/majordomo-1.94.5/{majordomo,wrapper} -rwxr-xr-x 1 majordom bin 62511 Feb 8 17:25 /usr/local/majordomo-1.94.5/majordomo -rwsr-xr-x 1 root bin 14966 Feb 8 17:25 /usr/local/majordomo-1.94.5/wrapper Group bin because sendmail is also in group bin. (BTW: Is that ok?) [root@longboy /root]# ls -l /usr/sbin/sendmail -r-sr-xr-x 1 root bin 394118 Jan 31 23:04 /usr/sbin/sendmail I'm wondering why a process with uid 2 (that's daemon) wants to use the wrapper. There is no process involved with that uid! Any hints? Thanks in advance Thomas From majordomo-users-owner Mon Feb 12 07:57:18 2001 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-980720-1) id HAA24267; Mon, 12 Feb 2001 07:42:03 -0800 (PST) Received: from arm.mrball.net (mrball.net [209.85.130.137]) by honor.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E053017EE1 for ; Mon, 12 Feb 2001 07:41:57 -0800 (PST) Received: from mrball.net (todd.mrball.net [192.168.18.3]) by arm.mrball.net (8.11.2/8.11.2) with ESMTP id f1CFftd27960; Mon, 12 Feb 2001 07:41:55 -0800 Message-ID: <3A880441.CB0D65D9@mrball.net> Date: Mon, 12 Feb 2001 07:41:53 -0800 From: Todd Lyons X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (X11; U; Linux 2.2.14-zip i586) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: KompuKit Cc: MajorDomo-Users Subject: Re: [Fwd: Returned mail: User unknown] References: <3A86BE58.20D2A90A@naisp.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk KompuKit wrote: > > ... while talking to kompukit.dyndns.org.: > > >>> RCPT To: > > <<< 550 ... User unknown > > 550 ... User unknown If your aliases bomb as in below, then the above error message will occur. > [root@kompukit kit]# /usr/bin/newaliases > hash map "Alias0": unsafe map file /etc/aliases.db: Symbolic links not allowed > WARNING: cannot open alias database /etc/aliases > Cannot create database for alias file /etc/aliases > [root@kompukit kit]# Symbolic links are not allowed. Whatever is being used a symbolic link, point it to the real file instead. -- Blue skies... Todd | Get a bigger hammer! | Never mind me. I'm speaking out of | | http://www.mrball.net | my /dev/ass anyway. | | http://faq.mrball.net | --Gash Teshome | From majordomo-users-owner Mon Feb 12 13:30:37 2001 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-980720-1) id MAA27765; Mon, 12 Feb 2001 12:30:09 -0800 (PST) Received: from arm.mrball.net (mrball.net [209.85.130.137]) by honor.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E98EF17EAE for ; Mon, 12 Feb 2001 12:30:00 -0800 (PST) Received: from mrball.net (todd.mrball.net [192.168.18.3]) by arm.mrball.net (8.11.2/8.11.2) with ESMTP id f1CKTqd28518; Mon, 12 Feb 2001 12:29:52 -0800 Message-ID: <3A8847BE.63B0C9F0@mrball.net> Date: Mon, 12 Feb 2001 12:29:50 -0800 From: Todd Lyons X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (X11; U; Linux 2.2.14-zip i586) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "Fritz Thomas (VTG)" Cc: "'majordomo-users@GreatCircle.COM'" Subject: Re: smrsh: uid 2: attempt to use wrapper majordomo ??? References: <8D0C388E362DD211AC0300A0C96029DE744EB0@mail.intra.cnv.at> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk "Fritz Thomas (VTG)" wrote: > I'm wondering why a process with uid 2 (that's daemon) wants to use the > wrapper. > There is no process involved with that uid! In your sendmail.cf, what user and group to sendmail switch to to run? I'd bet that it's group daemon. -- Blue skies... Todd | Get a bigger hammer! | Never mind me. I'm speaking out of | | http://www.mrball.net | my /dev/ass anyway. | | http://faq.mrball.net | --Gash Teshome | From majordomo-users-owner Mon Feb 12 14:14:41 2001 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-980720-1) id OAA28821; Mon, 12 Feb 2001 14:00:38 -0800 (PST) Received: from postal.sdsc.edu (postal.sdsc.edu [132.249.20.114]) by honor.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7485E17EAE for ; Mon, 12 Feb 2001 14:00:31 -0800 (PST) Received: from multivac.sdsc.edu (multivac.sdsc.edu [132.249.20.57]) by postal.sdsc.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/SDSCserver-16) with ESMTP id OAA21206 for ; Mon, 12 Feb 2001 14:00:27 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost by multivac (8.9.3+Sun/1.11-SolarisClient) with ESMTP id OAA03185; Mon, 12 Feb 2001 14:00:27 -0800 (PST) Date: Mon, 12 Feb 2001 14:00:27 -0800 (PST) From: David Padilla To: Subject: Looping mail Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk Help! I am a fairly new user of majordomo who has inherited a large mailing list. The problem: a list member sent out a mailing to the list that is constantly looping. By that I mean that an SMTP server elsewhere (I have the SMTP id) keeps sending the same mail out over and over again to the list. How do I stop this? Any help will be greatly appreciated. ----------------------------------------------------------------------- David J. Padilla Protein Data Bank, Research Collaboratory for Structural Bioinformatics San Diego Supercomputer Center dpadilla@sdsc.edu ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From majordomo-users-owner Mon Feb 12 15:52:43 2001 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-980720-1) id PAA29874; Mon, 12 Feb 2001 15:24:41 -0800 (PST) Received: from garnet.tc.umn.edu (garnet.tc.umn.edu [160.94.218.249]) by honor.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D160017EAE for ; Mon, 12 Feb 2001 15:24:35 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost by garnet.tc.umn.edu with ESMTP; Mon, 12 Feb 2001 17:24:38 -0600 Date: Mon, 12 Feb 2001 17:24:38 -0600 (CST) From: mjn X-Sender: mjn@garnet.tc.umn.edu To: David Padilla Cc: majordomo-users@GreatCircle.COM Subject: Re: Looping mail In-Reply-To: Message-Id: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk > Help! I am a fairly new user of majordomo who has inherited a large > mailing list. The problem: a list member sent out a mailing to the list > that is constantly looping. By that I mean that an SMTP server elsewhere > (I have the SMTP id) keeps sending the same mail out over and over again > to the list. How do I stop this? > > Any help will be greatly appreciated. You try putting the SMTP id or the message subject in the taboo headers of your configuration file. ____________________________ Mike Neuharth ADCS Technology Specialist http://www.umn.edu/adcs E-Mail : mjn@umn.edu Page Mail : 6126486512@page.metrocall.com http://supermonkeycollider.dyndns.org/ ____________________________ From majordomo-users-owner Mon Feb 12 16:05:00 2001 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-980720-1) id PAA00379; Mon, 12 Feb 2001 15:49:26 -0800 (PST) Received: from sxu1002.smtp-gw.to (sxu1002.altaway.net [209.249.55.65]) by honor.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9E7BB17EAE for ; Mon, 12 Feb 2001 15:49:20 -0800 (PST) Received: from Dell667 by sxu1002.smtp-gw.to (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id SAA06683 for ; Mon, 12 Feb 2001 18:49:44 -0500 (EST) From: "Brian Sullivan" To: Subject: Exploit? Date: Mon, 12 Feb 2001 18:48:52 -0500 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk I am noticing in my logs a lot of commands to majordomo ( all coming from potentially throw away mail accounts @hotmail.com) with the command "Get" followed by " Private," Very suspicious looking. Is this some attempt at exploit of Majordomo or other list processors. As far as I can tell it returns nothing other than an error and the help text on my majordomo. Is anybody else seeing this? From majordomo-users-owner Mon Feb 12 18:09:27 2001 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-980720-1) id RAA01814; Mon, 12 Feb 2001 17:27:19 -0800 (PST) Received: from castro.queernet.org (castro.queernet.org [209.157.101.253]) by honor.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D3A9A17EE8 for ; Mon, 12 Feb 2001 17:27:13 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (rogerk@localhost) by castro.queernet.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) with ESMTP id f1D1REF14786 Date: Mon, 12 Feb 2001 17:27:13 -0800 (PST) From: "Roger B.A. Klorese" To: Brian Sullivan Cc: Subject: Re: Exploit? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk On Mon, 12 Feb 2001, Brian Sullivan wrote: > I am noticing in my logs a lot of commands to majordomo ( all coming from > potentially throw away mail accounts @hotmail.com) with the command "Get" > followed by " Private," > > Very suspicious looking. Is this some attempt at exploit of Majordomo or > other list processors. As far as I can tell it returns nothing other than an > error and the help text on my majordomo. Is anybody else seeing this? Considering that Hotmail tags the line Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com onto subscribers' email, what do *you* think is happening? :) -- ROGER B.A. KLORESE rogerk@QueerNet.ORG PO Box 14309 San Francisco, CA 94114 "There is only one real blasphemy -- the refusal of joy!" -- Paul Rudnick From majordomo-users-owner Mon Feb 12 19:42:20 2001 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-980720-1) id TAA03338; Mon, 12 Feb 2001 19:31:53 -0800 (PST) Received: from netscape.com (r2d2.netscape.com [205.217.237.47]) by honor.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2896F17E8C for ; Mon, 12 Feb 2001 19:31:47 -0800 (PST) Received: from judge.mcom.com (judge.mcom.com [205.217.237.53]) by netscape.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with ESMTP id f1D3Vlb10339 for ; Mon, 12 Feb 2001 19:31:47 -0800 (PST) Received: from netscape.com ([205.217.240.33]) by judge.mcom.com (Netscape Messaging Server 4.15) with ESMTP id G8OF4Z00.B34; Mon, 12 Feb 2001 19:31:47 -0800 Message-ID: <3A88AA73.E9772F23@netscape.com> Date: Mon, 12 Feb 2001 21:30:59 -0600 From: Dan Liston Organization: iPlanet E-Commerce Solutions, A Sun Netscape Alliance X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.76 [en] (X11; U; Linux 2.2.17-14 i686) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Ken Scott Cc: majordomo-users@greatcircle.com Subject: Re: Problem with Majordomo and Red Hat Linux References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk A few troubleshooting steps (besides config-test) are to make sure sendmail trusts majordomo, and check your link to wrapper in /etc/smrsh. I have run majordomo in redhat linux 5.2, 6.0, 6.1, 6.2, and getting ready to try 7.0. I have never needed to set a mailertable entry, but what I have noticed from the rpm installs, is that the majordomo.cf has a /bin/hostname or /bin/dnshostname executable in the $whereami instead of a literal "hostname". What version of sendmail are you running? It might help us too, if you were to post your actual alias entries in case you have a typo that you are not seeing, but more sets of eyes might be able to see. It is also possible, (memory is not serving me) that your perl is too old. >From the sendmail FAQ: Subject: Q4.13 -- What does "unknown mailer error 1" mean? Date: September 24, 1998 In general, sendmail does not perform final delivery of messages, but relies on a local delivery agent instead. Such an agent, mail.local, is provided with the sendmail distribution. Any such agent that sendmail invokes for message delivery, as specified on an M line in sendmail.cf, must exit with code 0 (success), or one of the failure codes noted in src/sysexits.h. These generally run in the range 64 - 78, so 1 would be out of range, and lead to sendmail generating the above error. And from the majordomo FAQ: 2.4 - I get "Unknown mailer error" when majordomo runs First, see Question 4.13 if you are running RedHat 5.2 and are getting "Unknown mailer error 9". If something is wrong with your setup, the wrapper will often exit with various return codes depending on what the problem is. In order to really understand what is going on, look at the session transcript further down in the bounce message to see the error which is returned from the wrapper or from Majordomo. You should usually see some sort of error message. If you just get a return code, check the Majordomo README for further explanation on sendmail return codes. If you get "Unknown mailer error XX" where XX is less than 255, look for the error in /usr/include/errno.h . Otherwise, see the README. See section 1.1 above for what versions of Perl won't work with Majordomo. [reported by Russell Street] You may also get problems when messages to majordomo are queued (for example if you change sendmail's behavior to always queue messages rather than perform immediate delivery). The problem was that if sendmail queues a message it smashes the case in command lines and addresses when the queue gets processed. This is in spite of the lines shown by mailq. This is sendmail 5.x on Solaris 2.3, but it might apply to other versions of sendmail. Ken Scott wrote: > > I've instale > I've been all through the docs, but while I see some subtle references to > my problem, I can't find anything to tell me how to resolve it. If I'm > missing something, I apologize. > > I've installed v1.94.5 under Red Hat Linux v6.1. Specifically, the > installation was done using an rpm (majordomo-1.94.5-2.i386.rpm). All the > necessary aliases have been created, and config-test reports no problems. > Still, when sending mail to majordomo, I get this sort of error in return: > > ----- The following addresses had permanent fatal errors ----- > "|/usr/lib/majordomo/wrapper majordomo" > (expanded from: majordomo@shellworld.net) > > ----- Transcript of session follows ----- > 554 "|/usr/lib/majordomo/wrapper majordomo"... unknown mailer error 1 > > I'm thinking that maybe I need to specify majordomo in > /etc/mail/mailertable, but I can't get the syntax of it down to where it > will work. If I'm on the right track here, could somebody let me know > exaactly how that entry needs to look, and if I'm not, could somebody let > me know what I need to be doing that I'm not to get the problem solved? > > Thanks very much in advance for any help. > > -- > Ken, > admin@shellworld.net From majordomo-users-owner Mon Feb 12 23:55:03 2001 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-980720-1) id XAA06325; Mon, 12 Feb 2001 23:49:10 -0800 (PST) Received: from second.ival.es (second.ival.es [195.57.183.67]) by honor.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0F60B17E8C for ; Mon, 12 Feb 2001 23:49:03 -0800 (PST) Received: from second.ival.es ([195.57.183.68]) by second.ival.es (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA14550 for ; Tue, 13 Feb 2001 09:45:10 +0100 Message-ID: <3A88F520.24ADB8E7@second.ival.es> Date: Tue, 13 Feb 2001 08:49:36 +0000 From: Marcos X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (X11; I; SunOS 5.5.1 sun4m) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "majordomo-users@GreatCircle.COM" Subject: managing errors Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk hi, i have installed majordomo-1.94.4 under rh6.2 ... everything seems ok. The only problem is trying to add an incorrect email address to my list. When i do that i received, as a majordomo-owner, an email regarding about some mistakes in the address, .. but it creates a queue .. with no ending.. i have to delete all the mails in the queue and restart sendmail(8.9.3). how can i solve that problem? thanks in advance, marcos marcos@ival.es From majordomo-users-owner Tue Feb 13 07:09:57 2001 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-980720-1) id GAA15697; Tue, 13 Feb 2001 06:56:29 -0800 (PST) Received: from garnet.tc.umn.edu (garnet.tc.umn.edu [160.94.218.249]) by honor.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id ADA9E17E8C for ; Tue, 13 Feb 2001 06:56:24 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost by garnet.tc.umn.edu with ESMTP; Tue, 13 Feb 2001 08:56:27 -0600 Date: Tue, 13 Feb 2001 08:56:27 -0600 (CST) From: mjn X-Sender: mjn@garnet.tc.umn.edu To: David Padilla Cc: majordomo-users@GreatCircle.COM Subject: Re: Looping mail In-Reply-To: Message-Id: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk > Sorry, but I've got a follow-up question. WOuld I enter that in the > config file as: > > taboo_headers << END > /^content-type:ABC00000/i > END > where ABC00000 is the SMTP id? > > Or am I completely messed up? (Which would be normal...) > Yes. Something like that should be fine. You may need to make the taboo header a little more generous but, if this is the only thing you want to block and the actual header looks identical(I'd say you are missing a space between the ":" and "A" but that is just a guess) to the text you have entered in here, it should work. ____________________________ Mike Neuharth ADCS Technology Specialist http://www.umn.edu/adcs E-Mail : mjn@umn.edu Page Mail : 6126486512@page.metrocall.com http://supermonkeycollider.dyndns.org/ ____________________________ From majordomo-users-owner Tue Feb 13 07:54:58 2001 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-980720-1) id HAA16319; Tue, 13 Feb 2001 07:37:57 -0800 (PST) Received: from otto.nawcad.navy.mil (otto.nawcad.navy.mil [192.58.199.182]) by honor.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B586A17E8C for ; Tue, 13 Feb 2001 07:37:51 -0800 (PST) Received: by otto.nawcad.navy.mil; id KAA07527; Tue, 13 Feb 2001 10:37:49 -0500 (EST) From: Message-Id: <200102131537.KAA07527@otto.nawcad.navy.mil> Received: from tecnet1.jcte.jcs.mil(140.229.33.200) by otto.nawcad.navy.mil via smap (V4.2) id xma007178; Tue, 13 Feb 01 10:37:37 -0500 Date: Tue, 13 Feb 01 10:36:17 EDT To: majordomo-users@greatcircle.com Posted: Feb 13 10:36 2001 EST (Feb 13 15:36 ZULU) Subject: (no subject) Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk Hi, I'm a newbie so please forgive. I took over some else's attempt to get majordomo and majorcool going our our server. The other person had some test lists up and running. I since downloaded majordomo-1.94.5 and majorcool-1.3.2 and got them working together. Everthing seems to be fine except when I compared one of the orignal lists.config file I noticed there was an option for web_access. When I added this option into my new list I just created and ran newconfig. I received a message from majordomo that option web_access is not valid. Is there a switch I need to set or a configuration option I missed. I would not mind having the web_access option for some of the new lists I'm required to create. Thanks Dave Ansalvish dave@jcs.mil From majordomo-users-owner Tue Feb 13 09:24:47 2001 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-980720-1) id JAA17523; Tue, 13 Feb 2001 09:13:22 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail.lamere.net (mail.lamere.net [63.88.216.10]) by honor.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3082017EB0 for ; Tue, 13 Feb 2001 09:13:16 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (curtis@localhost) by mail.lamere.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA13573; Tue, 13 Feb 2001 12:12:52 -0500 Date: Tue, 13 Feb 2001 12:12:52 -0500 (EST) From: Curtis Maurand To: Brian Sullivan Cc: majordomo-users@GreatCircle.COM Subject: Re: Exploit? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk Yes ------------------------------------------------------------ Curtis Maurand System Administrator LBC Communications lamere.net, airnetconnect.com mailto:curtis@lamere.net Linux, OS/2, Windows (any flavor) http://www.lamere.net Cisco, OpenRoute, Livingston http://airnetconnect.com MySQL, SQL Server, PHP ------------------------------------------------------------ On Mon, 12 Feb 2001, Brian Sullivan wrote: > > > > > > > I am noticing in my logs a lot of commands to majordomo ( all coming from > potentially throw away mail accounts @hotmail.com) with the command "Get" > followed by " Private," > > Very suspicious looking. Is this some attempt at exploit of Majordomo or > other list processors. As far as I can tell it returns nothing other than an > error and the help text on my majordomo. Is anybody else seeing this? > > From majordomo-users-owner Tue Feb 13 10:25:11 2001 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-980720-1) id KAA18271; Tue, 13 Feb 2001 10:13:15 -0800 (PST) Received: from netscape.com (c3po.netscape.com [205.217.237.46]) by honor.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5F54017EB0 for ; Tue, 13 Feb 2001 10:13:10 -0800 (PST) Received: from judge.mcom.com (judge.mcom.com [205.217.237.53]) by netscape.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with ESMTP id f1DIDCH06704 for ; Tue, 13 Feb 2001 10:13:12 -0800 (PST) Received: from netscape.com ([205.217.240.41]) by judge.mcom.com (Netscape Messaging Server 4.15) with ESMTP id G8PJY000.9AL; Tue, 13 Feb 2001 10:13:12 -0800 Message-ID: <3A897908.D8C817F@netscape.com> Date: Tue, 13 Feb 2001 12:12:24 -0600 From: Dan Liston Organization: iPlanet E-Commerce Solutions, A Sun Netscape Alliance X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.76 [en] (X11; U; Linux 2.2.17-14 i686) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Marcos Cc: "majordomo-users@GreatCircle.COM" Subject: Re: managing errors References: <3A88F520.24ADB8E7@second.ival.es> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk Did you install from RPM or from tar.gz? Why did you choose 1.94.4 over 1.94.5? What do your aliases look like? Have you disabled x400 addresses? Take a look at ftp://fr.rpmfind.net/linux/caldera/LTP/col/install/RPMS/majordomo-1.94.5-2.i386.rpm Dan Liston Marcos wrote: > > hi, > > i have installed majordomo-1.94.4 under rh6.2 ... everything seems > ok. The only problem is trying to add an incorrect email address to my > list. When i do that i received, as a majordomo-owner, an email > regarding about some mistakes in the address, .. but it creates a queue > .. with no ending.. i have to delete all the mails in the queue and > restart sendmail(8.9.3). > how can i solve that problem? > > thanks in advance, > > marcos > marcos@ival.es From majordomo-users-owner Tue Feb 13 11:39:55 2001 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-980720-1) id KAA18497; Tue, 13 Feb 2001 10:27:05 -0800 (PST) Received: from mta5.rcsntx.swbell.net (mta5.rcsntx.swbell.net [151.164.30.29]) by honor.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id DFD7417EB0 for ; Tue, 13 Feb 2001 10:26:59 -0800 (PST) Received: from swbell.net ([216.63.79.227]) by mta5.rcsntx.swbell.net (Sun Internet Mail Server sims.3.5.2000.01.05.12.18.p9) with ESMTP id <0G8P00J48KGPTN@mta5.rcsntx.swbell.net> for majordomo-users@greatcircle.com; Tue, 13 Feb 2001 12:24:26 -0600 (CST) Date: Tue, 13 Feb 2001 12:26:20 -0600 From: Bill Polhemus Subject: Re: (no subject) To: davea@tecnet1.jcte.jcs.mil Cc: majordomo-users@greatcircle.com Message-id: <3A897C4C.224844E9@swbell.net> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.76 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-Accept-Language: en,pdf References: <200102131537.KAA07527@otto.nawcad.navy.mil> Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk Speaking for myself, that's a new one on me! I don't recall that there IS such a directive in 1.94.5. Maybe this is an Mj2 thing? davea@tecnet1.jcte.jcs.mil wrote: > > ...I noticed there was an option > for web_access. When I added this option into my new list I just created and ran newconfig. I received a message from > majordomo that option web_access is not valid. From majordomo-users-owner Tue Feb 13 11:54:50 2001 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-980720-1) id LAA19059; Tue, 13 Feb 2001 11:10:00 -0800 (PST) Received: from sonny.org (unknown [205.217.137.8]) by honor.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C396F17EB0 for ; Tue, 13 Feb 2001 11:09:53 -0800 (PST) Received: from netscape.com (citadel.teamp.com [206.81.132.94]) by sonny.org (8.8.8/8.8.3) with ESMTP id NAA21482; Tue, 13 Feb 2001 13:09:53 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <3A898630.90E555D9@netscape.com> Date: Tue, 13 Feb 2001 13:08:32 -0600 From: Dan Liston Organization: iPlanet eCommerce Solutions, A Sun-Netscape Alliance X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.76 [en] (X11; U; Linux 2.2.17-14 i686) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: David Padilla Cc: majordomo-users@GreatCircle.COM Subject: Re: Looping mail References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk Look for the commonality in the headers that identifies it as being the same message from the same server, and add that to your taboo_headers either in the listame.config file or the global setting in majordomo.cf. Dan Liston David Padilla wrote: > > Help! I am a fairly new user of majordomo who has inherited a large > mailing list. The problem: a list member sent out a mailing to the list > that is constantly looping. By that I mean that an SMTP server elsewhere > (I have the SMTP id) keeps sending the same mail out over and over again > to the list. How do I stop this? > > Any help will be greatly appreciated. From majordomo-users-owner Tue Feb 13 12:09:54 2001 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-980720-1) id LAA19045; Tue, 13 Feb 2001 11:08:02 -0800 (PST) Received: from sonny.org (unknown [205.217.137.8]) by honor.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E695C17EB0 for ; Tue, 13 Feb 2001 11:07:55 -0800 (PST) Received: from netscape.com (citadel.teamp.com [206.81.132.94]) by sonny.org (8.8.8/8.8.3) with ESMTP id NAA21475; Tue, 13 Feb 2001 13:07:50 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <3A8985B4.E1DE9F8F@netscape.com> Date: Tue, 13 Feb 2001 13:06:28 -0600 From: Dan Liston Organization: iPlanet eCommerce Solutions, A Sun-Netscape Alliance X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.76 [en] (X11; U; Linux 2.2.17-14 i686) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Brian Sullivan Cc: majordomo-users@GreatCircle.COM Subject: Re: Exploit? References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk Brian Sullivan wrote: > > I am noticing in my logs a lot of commands to majordomo ( all coming from > potentially throw away mail accounts @hotmail.com) with the command "Get" > followed by " Private," > > Very suspicious looking. Is this some attempt at exploit of Majordomo or > other list processors. As far as I can tell it returns nothing other than an > error and the help text on my majordomo. Is anybody else seeing this? Just getting the help file provides some information about your system. It confirms a majordomo installation, and that most likely, there exists a majordomo-owner address which would be deliverable, even if just to postmaster. I have a feeling, that your get command is more likely the first few words of some spam being sent to your majordomo address/alias. Dan Liston From majordomo-users-owner Tue Feb 13 12:25:06 2001 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-980720-1) id MAA19952; Tue, 13 Feb 2001 12:20:32 -0800 (PST) Received: from castro.queernet.org (castro.queernet.org [209.157.101.253]) by honor.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C901017EB0 for ; Tue, 13 Feb 2001 12:20:28 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (rogerk@localhost) by castro.queernet.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) with ESMTP id f1DKK0A15268 Date: Tue, 13 Feb 2001 12:19:59 -0800 (PST) From: "Roger B.A. Klorese" To: Dan Liston Cc: Brian Sullivan , Subject: Re: Exploit? In-Reply-To: <3A8985B4.E1DE9F8F@netscape.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk On Tue, 13 Feb 2001, Dan Liston wrote: > I have a feeling, that your get command is more likely the first few words of > some spam being sent to your majordomo address/alias. I thought I answered this in public yesterday, but here I go again: The signature line added to every Hotmail user's messages is: Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com And since they use no signature delimiter, it's viewed as a "get" command for the non-existent list "Your" and the non-existent document "Private,". -- ROGER B.A. KLORESE rogerk@QueerNet.ORG PO Box 14309 San Francisco, CA 94114 "There is only one real blasphemy -- the refusal of joy!" -- Paul Rudnick From majordomo-users-owner Tue Feb 13 12:37:41 2001 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-980720-1) id KAA18465; Tue, 13 Feb 2001 10:25:02 -0800 (PST) Received: from leslie.mystery.com (leslie.mystery.com [198.202.235.7]) by honor.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2969417EB0 for ; Tue, 13 Feb 2001 10:24:22 -0800 (PST) Received: from angus.mystery.com (root@angus.mystery.com [198.202.235.1]) by leslie.mystery.com (8.11.1/8.11.0) with ESMTP id f1DIO4E18571 for ; Tue, 13 Feb 2001 13:24:04 -0500 Received: (from gabe@localhost) by angus.mystery.com (8.11.1/8.11.1) id f1DIO4Q05791 for majordomo-users@GreatCircle.com; Tue, 13 Feb 2001 13:24:04 -0500 Date: Tue, 13 Feb 2001 13:24:04 -0500 From: Gabe Helou To: majordomo-users@GreatCircle.com Subject: Re: Exploit? Message-ID: <20010213132404.C2581@angus.mystery.com> Reply-To: gabe@mystery.com References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: ; from curtis@lamere.net on Tue, Feb 13, 2001 at 12:12:52PM -0500 Organization: The Mystery Spot Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk ... and then Curtis Maurand says: } Brian Sullivan wrote: } } > I am noticing in my logs a lot of commands to majordomo ( all coming from } > potentially throw away mail accounts @hotmail.com) with the command "Get" } > followed by " Private," } } Yes Are you sure it isn't "Get" followed by "Your Private,"? Hotmail messages tend to end with: Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. This tends to be interpretted by Majordomo as a "get" request. -- --- -- - - - - - - - - From majordomo-users-owner Tue Feb 13 17:53:27 2001 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-980720-1) id RAA23874; Tue, 13 Feb 2001 17:25:33 -0800 (PST) Received: from spmail001.summitmedia.com.ph (unknown [210.23.230.125]) by honor.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9D2A117EB0 for ; Tue, 13 Feb 2001 17:25:27 -0800 (PST) Received: by SPMAIL001 with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) id <1GTSD5TL>; Wed, 14 Feb 2001 09:27:43 +0800 Message-ID: From: Anthony Banez To: "'majordomo-users@greatcircle.com'" Subject: relaying? Date: Wed, 14 Feb 2001 09:27:39 +0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----_=_NextPart_001_01C09625.53755F32" Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk This message is in MIME format. Since your mail reader does not understand this format, some or all of this message may not be legible. ------_=_NextPart_001_01C09625.53755F32 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" I always keep on getting this on my mail log file. Anybody knows how i can stop this from coming out. from=<>, size=0, class=0, nrcpts=0, proto=SMTP, daemon=MTA, relay=mail2.hill.af.mil [137.241.250.39] Thanks in advance ! ------_=_NextPart_001_01C09625.53755F32 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" relaying?

I always keep on getting this on my mail log file. Anybody knows how i can stop this from coming out.

from=<>, size=0, class=0, nrcpts=0, proto=SMTP, daemon=MTA, relay=mail2.hill.af.mil [137.241.250.39]

Thanks in advance !

------_=_NextPart_001_01C09625.53755F32-- From majordomo-users-owner Tue Feb 13 20:43:40 2001 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-980720-1) id UAA25627; Tue, 13 Feb 2001 20:30:39 -0800 (PST) Received: from arm.mrball.net (mrball.net [209.85.130.137]) by honor.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 74F0017EAF for ; Tue, 13 Feb 2001 20:30:26 -0800 (PST) Received: from mrball.net (todd.mrball.net [192.168.18.3]) by arm.mrball.net (8.11.2/8.11.2) with ESMTP id f1E4HId32381; Tue, 13 Feb 2001 20:17:18 -0800 Message-ID: <3A8A06CC.4DF20C52@mrball.net> Date: Tue, 13 Feb 2001 20:17:16 -0800 From: Todd Lyons X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (X11; U; Linux 2.2.14-zip i586) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Anthony Banez Cc: "'majordomo-users@greatcircle.com'" Subject: Re: relaying? References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk > Anthony Banez wrote: > I always keep on getting this on my mail log file. Anybody knows how i can > stop this from coming out. > from=<>, size=0, class=0, nrcpts=0, proto=SMTP, daemon=MTA, > relay=mail2.hill.af.mil [137.241.250.39] Quote the lines before this. This is probably normal, depending on what's above it. -- Blue skies... Todd | Get a bigger hammer! | Never mind me. I'm speaking out of | | http://www.mrball.net | my /dev/ass anyway. | | http://faq.mrball.net | --Gash Teshome | From majordomo-users-owner Wed Feb 14 02:30:28 2001 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-980720-1) id CAA00130; Wed, 14 Feb 2001 02:14:39 -0800 (PST) Received: from stern.sovam.com (stern.sovam.com [194.67.2.79]) by honor.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 304D517EAF for ; Wed, 14 Feb 2001 02:14:28 -0800 (PST) Received: from gate.ispras.ru (gate.ispras.ru [194.67.37.200]) by stern.sovam.com (8.9.2/8.8.8) with ESMTP id NAA09903 for ; Wed, 14 Feb 2001 13:14:29 +0300 (MSK) Received: from ispgate (ispgate [194.67.37.200]) by gate.ispras.ru (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f1EAAWS11551 for ; Wed, 14 Feb 2001 13:10:33 +0300 (MSK) Date: Wed, 14 Feb 2001 13:10:32 +0300 (MSK) From: Grigory Kljuchnikov To: majordomo-users@GreatCircle.COM Subject: Set of Moderated list... Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk Hello, I've set a moderated list with moderate = yes moderator = grn@ispras.ru in the list's config file. And now when somebody send the message to this list, the moderator receive two message: 1) Date: Wed, 14 Feb 2001 12:58:55 +0300 (MSK) From: owner-my-list@ispras.ru To: grn@ispras.ru Subject: BOUNCE my-list@ispras.ru: Approval required: < body is empty > 2) It's origin message: Date: Wed, 14 Feb 2001 12:58:30 +0300 (MSK) From: chu@mail.ru To: my-list@ispras.ru Subject: Test 1 This is a test. In this case I need to compose both message to approve request. But I've read in Docs that I must receive one BOUNCE message with Approval request with origin message in the body. What is wrong or may be wrong in my configuration? Thank you! Grigory Klyuchnikov, System Engineer, Institute for System Programming Russian Academy of Sciences From majordomo-users-owner Wed Feb 14 06:13:43 2001 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-980720-1) id GAA04028; Wed, 14 Feb 2001 06:00:38 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail.ajc.com (dns2.ajc.com [205.217.99.2]) by honor.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 32D1417EB0 for ; Wed, 14 Feb 2001 06:00:32 -0800 (PST) Received: from ajc.com (lmeier-mac.coxnews.net [169.137.224.201]) by mail.ajc.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id IAA16379; Wed, 14 Feb 2001 08:56:46 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <3A8A8E9B.55B63848@ajc.com> Date: Wed, 14 Feb 2001 08:59:35 -0500 From: Layne Meier Reply-To: lmeier@ajc.com Organization: The Atlanta Journal-Constitution X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 (Macintosh; I; PPC) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Anthony Banez , majordomo-users@greatcircle.com Subject: Re: relaying? References: Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk I believe that is normal, but I can tell you that it's originating from Hill Air Force Base in Ogden, Utah.

Anthony Banez wrote:

 

I always keep on getting this on my mail log file. Anybody knows how i can stop this from coming out.

from=<>, size=0, class=0, nrcpts=0, proto=SMTP, daemon=MTA, relay=mail2.hill.af.mil [137.241.250.39]

Thanks in advance !

From majordomo-users-owner Wed Feb 14 06:27:32 2001 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-980720-1) id FAA03896; Wed, 14 Feb 2001 05:53:38 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail.lamere.net (mail.lamere.net [63.88.216.10]) by honor.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7844617EAF for ; Wed, 14 Feb 2001 05:53:32 -0800 (PST) Received: from canon.maurand.com (IDENT:root@canon.maurand.com [63.88.217.240]) by mail.lamere.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id IAA08048; Wed, 14 Feb 2001 08:53:11 -0500 Message-Id: <200102141353.IAA08048@mail.lamere.net> Subject: Re: Exploit? From: Curtis Maurand To: gabe@mystery.com Cc: majordomo-users@GreatCircle.COM In-Reply-To: <20010213132404.C2581@angus.mystery.com> References: <20010213132404.C2581@angus.mystery.com> Content-Type: text/plain X-Mailer: Evolution (0.8/+cvs.2001.02.13.10.28 - Preview Release) Date: 14 Feb 2001 09:53:19 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk > } > } Yes > > Are you sure it isn't "Get" followed by "Your Private,"? Hotmail messages > tend to end with: > > Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. > > This tends to be interpretted by Majordomo as a "get" request. > 13:48:53 lamere.net majordomo[14478] {cg2000@technologist.com} get copy, 17:13:32 lamere.net majordomo[20213] {jedwards_1@chemie.uni-bremen.de} get started 14:56:01 lamere.net majordomo[523] {Curtis Maurand } get 06:00:53 lamere.net majordomo[2605] {vem98@amrer.net} get orders >From the log entry above it appears that you were right. This is exactly what we are seeing. Majordomo appears to be ignoring everything but the help and get messages. I thought that it might be spammers trying to send to the majordomo mail account. Thanks for the clarification. I wasn't reading the logs quit deep enough. Thanks again, I guess I can un comment the help code in the majordomo script. Curtis From majordomo-users-owner Wed Feb 14 06:42:32 2001 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-980720-1) id GAA04283; Wed, 14 Feb 2001 06:29:53 -0800 (PST) Received: from relay2.cae.ca (gate2.cae.com [142.39.200.51]) by honor.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A755217EAF for ; Wed, 14 Feb 2001 06:29:47 -0800 (PST) Received: from dns1.cae.ca (dns1.cae.ca [142.39.20.1]) Received: from caemsx01.cae.ca (caemsx01.cae.ca [142.39.20.210]) Received: by caemsx01.cae.ca with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Message-ID: <1C89780C4179D3118C580090277193580B848336@caemsx01.cae.ca> From: Peter Joseph Horvat To: "'Majordomo-Users@GreatCircle.COM'" Subject: Including sender on the list Date: Wed, 14 Feb 2001 09:28:46 -0500 Importance: low X-Priority: 5 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk Hi everyone, Just wondering if it's possible for the sender of an email to a list to automatically receive a copy of his own email. Thanks Peter Joseph Horvat From majordomo-users-owner Wed Feb 14 06:57:34 2001 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-980720-1) id GAA04040; Wed, 14 Feb 2001 06:02:55 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail.bcpl.net (mail.bcpl.net [204.255.212.10]) by honor.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3911217EAF for ; Wed, 14 Feb 2001 06:02:46 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (fold@localhost) by mail.bcpl.net (8.11.2/8.11.2) with ESMTP id f1EE2mX00508 for ; Wed, 14 Feb 2001 09:02:49 -0500 (EST) Date: Wed, 14 Feb 2001 09:02:48 -0500 (EST) From: Chip Old To: Majordomo-Users List Subject: Re: Set of Moderated list... In-Reply-To: Message-ID: X-Organization: BCPL.NET Internet Services MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk That is a Sendmail issue and a UNIX mail reader (Pine in your case) issue, not a Majordomo issue. Most UNIX mail readers look for a a blank line followed by "From " (note the space) to determine where each message in your mail spool file begins. This is normally the first line in the message header. If there is another line following a blank line that begins with "From " somewhere within the message text, Pine and similar UNIX mail programs get confused and display the message as two messages. When Majordomo bounces a message, Majordomo's message to you has its own "From " line in the message header, but the message text contains the full header of the bounced message including that "From " line. Your Pine is interpreting that second "From " as the beginning of a new message. As far as I know there is nothing you can do to change Pine's behavior, and the same problem will occur in most other UNIX-based mail program. Instead, you need to make a small change in your Sendmail configuration. Look in the Sendmail configuration file (probably /etc/mail/sendmail.cf since you're running a very recent version - 8.11.1) for a line beginning with "mlocal". That is the line that defines how Sendmail interacts with the local mail delivery agent (probably /bin/mail or /user/lib/mail.local). About halfway accross that line you should see a section of "F=" flags, something like this: F=lsDFMAw5:/|@qfSmnE9 Make sure that "E" flag is there. If a message contains more than one a line following a blank line that begins with "From " , the "E" flag causes the "From " to be changed to ">From " on all but the first occurance (the actual message header). This prevents UNIX mail readers from interpreting the "From " as the beginning of a new message. If you don't administer Sendmail on your system, you'll have to get the cooperation of whomever does. On Wed, 14 Feb 2001, Grigory Kljuchnikov wrote to majordomo-users@GreatCirc...: > I've set a moderated list with > > moderate = yes > moderator = grn@ispras.ru > > in the list's config file. And now when somebody send the message > to this list, the moderator receive two message: > > 1) > Date: Wed, 14 Feb 2001 12:58:55 +0300 (MSK) > From: owner-my-list@ispras.ru > To: grn@ispras.ru > Subject: BOUNCE my-list@ispras.ru: Approval required: > > < body is empty > > > 2) It's origin message: > Date: Wed, 14 Feb 2001 12:58:30 +0300 (MSK) > From: chu@mail.ru > To: my-list@ispras.ru > Subject: Test 1 > > This is a test. > > In this case I need to compose both message to approve request. > But I've read in Docs that I must receive one BOUNCE message > with Approval request with origin message in the body. > > What is wrong or may be wrong in my configuration? > > Thank you! > > Grigory Klyuchnikov, System Engineer, > Institute for System Programming > Russian Academy of Sciences -- Chip Old (Francis E. Old) E-Mail: fold@bcpl.net Manager, BCPL Network Services Voice: 410-887-6180 Manager, BCPL.NET Internet Services FAX: 410-887-2091 Baltimore County Public Library ICBM: 39.39910 N 320 York Road 76.60300 W Towson, Maryland 21204 U.S.A. From majordomo-users-owner Wed Feb 14 08:27:40 2001 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-980720-1) id IAA05431; Wed, 14 Feb 2001 08:17:32 -0800 (PST) Received: from pisces.tecban.com.br (unknown [200.245.116.2]) by honor.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with SMTP id 6F2FE17EAF for ; Wed, 14 Feb 2001 08:17:23 -0800 (PST) Received: from [10.2.1.57] by pisces.tecban.com.br; Wed, 14 Feb 2001 17:13:06 GMT Received: from tecban.com.br ([10.2.2.10]) by tecban.com.br (Lotus Domino Release 5.0.5) with ESMTP id 2001021414134570:14535 ; Wed, 14 Feb 2001 14:13:45 -0400 Received: from tecban.com.br ([10.1.1.22]) by tecban.com.br (Netscape Mail Server v1.1) with ESMTP id AAA19740 for ; Wed, 14 Feb 2001 14:19:38 -0300 Received: from australis ([10.1.6.41]) by tecban.com.br (Netscape Mail Server v2.0) with SMTP id AAA733 for ; Wed, 14 Feb 2001 14:18:31 -0200 Message-ID: <00bf01c096a9$01d5c480$2906010a@tecban.com.br> Reply-To: "Luis Fernando Cerri" From: lfcerri@tecban.com.br (Luis Fernando Cerri) To: "Majordomo List" Subject: Subject prefix Date: Wed, 14 Feb 2001 14:10:18 -0300 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3612.1700 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3612.1700 X-MIMETrack: Itemize by SMTP Server on andromeda/Tecban(Release 5.0.5 |September 22, 2000) at 02/14/2001 02:13:45 PM, Serialize by Router on andromeda/Tecban(Release 5.0.5 |September 22, 2000) at 02/14/2001 02:13:50 PM Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk Hi all. I've noticed today that when someone send a message to a list with the subject line in blank, the subject prefix specified at list.config file isn't inserted and the message is distributed to the list members without subject. Did anyone faced (and resolved) the same problem?! Since I don't know perl, I can't solve it by myself... TIA Luis Fernando Cerri lfcerri@tecban.com.br (11)5504-1885 Equipe de Inova=E7=E3o Tecnol=F3gica Tecnologia Banc=E1ria S/A http://www.tecban.com.br From majordomo-users-owner Wed Feb 14 09:12:27 2001 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-980720-1) id IAA05823; Wed, 14 Feb 2001 08:53:51 -0800 (PST) Received: from cloud.ccsf.cc.ca.us (cloud.ccsf.cc.ca.us [147.144.1.212]) by honor.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 840E017EAF for ; Wed, 14 Feb 2001 08:53:45 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (jjah@localhost) by cloud.ccsf.cc.ca.us (8.9.0/8.9.0) with SMTP id IAA04398; Wed, 14 Feb 2001 08:53:44 -0800 (PST) Date: Wed, 14 Feb 2001 08:53:44 -0800 (PST) From: "Joe R. Jah" To: Luis Fernando Cerri Cc: Majordomo List Subject: Re: Subject prefix In-Reply-To: <00bf01c096a9$01d5c480$2906010a@tecban.com.br> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk On Wed, 14 Feb 2001, Luis Fernando Cerri wrote: > Date: Wed, 14 Feb 2001 14:10:18 -0300 > From: Luis Fernando Cerri > To: Majordomo List > Subject: Subject prefix > > Hi all. > > I've noticed today that when someone send a message to a list with the > subject line in blank, the subject prefix specified at list.config file > isn't inserted and the message is distributed to the list members without > subject. > > Did anyone faced (and resolved) the same problem?! Since I don't know perl, > I can't solve it by myself... If you run 1.94.5 you can apply this patch: ftp://ftp.ccsf.org/majordomo-patches/1.94.5/resend.1 Regards, Joe -- _/ _/_/_/ _/ ____________ __o _/ _/ _/ _/ ______________ _-\<,_ _/ _/ _/_/_/ _/ _/ ......(_)/ (_) _/_/ oe _/ _/. _/_/ ah jjah@cloud.ccsf.cc.ca.us From majordomo-users-owner Wed Feb 14 10:30:45 2001 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-980720-1) id KAA06746; Wed, 14 Feb 2001 10:18:48 -0800 (PST) Received: from sonny.org (unknown [205.217.137.8]) by honor.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8E93217EAF for ; Wed, 14 Feb 2001 10:18:40 -0800 (PST) Received: from netscape.com (citadel.teamp.com [206.81.132.94]) by sonny.org (8.8.8/8.8.3) with ESMTP id MAA23634; Wed, 14 Feb 2001 12:18:20 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <3A8ACB9B.ADD942DB@netscape.com> Date: Wed, 14 Feb 2001 12:16:59 -0600 From: Dan Liston Organization: iPlanet eCommerce Solutions, A Sun-Netscape Alliance X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.76 [en] (X11; U; Linux 2.2.17-14 i686) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Marcos , Majordomo Users Subject: Re: managing errors References: <3A88F520.24ADB8E7@second.ival.es> <3A897908.D8C817F@netscape.com> <3A8A4843.2F057715@second.ival.es> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk I only see one questionable alias, and that is you viajes-archive alias. Do you get the same queue problem if you disable this alias? If you do, my only recommendation is to get 1.94.5 from the link I provided. It fixes several bugs, adds a few enancements, and may solve your problem. If 1.94.5 does not help, I would look at your sendmail configuration. Dan Liston Marcos wrote: > > this is my aliases file: > viajes: "|/home/majordom/majordomo-1.94.4/wrapper resend -l viajes viajes-outgoing,nobody" > viajes-outgoing: :include:/home/majordom/majordomo-1.94.4/mail/lists/viajes,viajes-archive > owner-viajes-outgoing: viajes-owner > viajes-archive: /home/majordom/majordomo-1.94.4/mail/archive/viajes > owner-viajes-archive: viajes-owner > owner-viajes: owner-listas > viajes-request:"|/home/majordom/majordomo-1.94.4/wrapper request-answer viajes" > owner-viajes-request: viajes-owner > viajes-approval: majordomo-owner > viajes-owner: owner-listas > owner-viajes-owner: owner-listas > > i do not know what do you mean about disabling x400 addresses. > > thanks in advance, > > marcos > marcos@ival.es > > > Dan Liston wrote: > > > Did you install from RPM or from tar.gz? Why did you choose 1.94.4 over > > 1.94.5? What do your aliases look like? Have you disabled x400 addresses? > > > > Take a look at ftp://fr.rpmfind.net/linux/caldera/LTP/col/install/RPMS/majordomo-1.94.5-2.i386.rpm > > > > Dan Liston > > > > Marcos wrote: > > > > > > hi, > > > > > > i have installed majordomo-1.94.4 under rh6.2 ... everything seems > > > ok. The only problem is trying to add an incorrect email address to my > > > list. When i do that i received, as a majordomo-owner, an email > > > regarding about some mistakes in the address, .. but it creates a queue > > > .. with no ending.. i have to delete all the mails in the queue and > > > restart sendmail(8.9.3). > > > how can i solve that problem? > > > > > > thanks in advance, > > > > > > marcos > > > marcos@ival.es -- -- Dan Liston --------------------- dliston@netscape.com -- -- Netscape Consultant ------------------ (214) 906-1675 -- -- iPlanet E-Commerce Solutions, A Sun Netscape Alliance -- From majordomo-users-owner Wed Feb 14 10:45:52 2001 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-980720-1) id KAA06906; Wed, 14 Feb 2001 10:33:11 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail.rz.uni-ulm.de (sirius-giga.rz.uni-ulm.de [134.60.241.36]) by honor.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id CD4BE17EAF for ; Wed, 14 Feb 2001 10:33:05 -0800 (PST) Received: from medizin.uni-ulm.de (sip.medizin.uni-ulm.de [134.60.9.100]) by mail.rz.uni-ulm.de (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id TAA03374 for ; Wed, 14 Feb 2001 19:33:08 +0100 (MET) Received: by medizin.uni-ulm.de (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id TAA10989; Wed, 14 Feb 2001 19:30:46 -0100 Received: from sip.medizin.uni-ulm.de(134.60.9.100), claiming to be "[134.60.9.100]" via SMTP by sip.medizin.uni-ulm.de, id smtpdAAAa002ff; Wed Feb 14 19:30:45 2001 X-Sender: heim@sip.medizin.uni-ulm.de (Unverified) Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Wed, 14 Feb 2001 19:26:22 -0800 To: majordomo-users@greatcircle.com From: heim@sip.medizin.uni-ulm.de (Stefan Heim, Dipl.-Ing.) Subject: Moderated List Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk Hi, how can I use "Eudora" to moderate a list ? Thanks! /--------------------------------o00-----00o-------------------------\ Stefan Heim Uni Ulm Sektion Informatik in der Psychotherapie Am Hochstraess 8 89081 Ulm Germany E-Mail: heim@sip.Medizin.Uni-Ulm.de http://sip.medizin.uni-ulm.de Tel: +49-(0)731-50-25702 Fax: +49-(0)731-50-25662 \-------------------------------ooo0-----0ooOo---------------------/ From majordomo-users-owner Wed Feb 14 13:11:29 2001 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-980720-1) id NAA08431; Wed, 14 Feb 2001 13:00:52 -0800 (PST) Received: from sonny.org (unknown [205.217.137.8]) by honor.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8192617EAF for ; Wed, 14 Feb 2001 13:00:45 -0800 (PST) Received: from netscape.com (citadel.teamp.com [206.81.132.94]) by sonny.org (8.8.8/8.8.3) with ESMTP id PAA23869; Wed, 14 Feb 2001 15:00:37 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <3A8AF1A4.860EF393@netscape.com> Date: Wed, 14 Feb 2001 14:59:16 -0600 From: Dan Liston Organization: iPlanet eCommerce Solutions, A Sun-Netscape Alliance X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.76 [en] (X11; U; Linux 2.2.17-14 i686) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Luis Fernando Cerri Cc: Majordomo List Subject: Re: Subject prefix References: <00bf01c096a9$01d5c480$2906010a@tecban.com.br> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk There is an unofficial patch that does fix this. I prefer to just bounce messages back to the sender when they do not use a subject. ftp://ftp.ccsf.org/majordomo-patches/1.94.5/resend.1 Dan Liston Luis Fernando Cerri wrote: > > Hi all. > > I've noticed today that when someone send a message to a list with the > subject line in blank, the subject prefix specified at list.config file > isn't inserted and the message is distributed to the list members without > subject. > > Did anyone faced (and resolved) the same problem?! Since I don't know perl, > I can't solve it by myself... From majordomo-users-owner Wed Feb 14 17:56:44 2001 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-980720-1) id RAA11395; Wed, 14 Feb 2001 17:49:22 -0800 (PST) Received: from math.buffalostate.edu (math.buffalostate.edu [136.183.3.170]) by honor.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C2D7717E8C for ; Wed, 14 Feb 2001 17:49:16 -0800 (PST) Received: (from sanders@localhost) by math.buffalostate.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) id VAA00825 for majordomo-users@GreatCircle.com; Wed, 14 Feb 2001 21:50:26 -0500 Date: Wed, 14 Feb 2001 21:50:26 -0500 From: Robin Sanders Message-Id: <200102150250.VAA00825@math.buffalostate.edu> To: majordomo-users@GreatCircle.com Subject: Probl Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk From majordomo-users-owner Thu Feb 15 05:43:47 2001 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-980720-1) id FAA20386; Thu, 15 Feb 2001 05:36:25 -0800 (PST) Received: from ns2.intra.cnv.at (unknown [212.51.224.163]) by honor.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8304017E8B for ; Thu, 15 Feb 2001 05:36:18 -0800 (PST) Received: by relay.cnv.at; Thu, 15 Feb 2001 14:36:48 +0100 Received: by mail.intra.cnv.at with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) id <1ZTK394V>; Thu, 15 Feb 2001 14:36:09 +0100 Message-ID: <8D0C388E362DD211AC0300A0C96029DE744EBE@mail.intra.cnv.at> From: "Fritz Thomas (VTG)" To: "'Todd Lyons'" Cc: "'majordomo-users@GreatCircle.COM'" Subject: RE: smrsh: uid 2: attempt to use wrapper majordomo ??? Date: Thu, 15 Feb 2001 14:36:03 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk Hi Todd! > "Fritz Thomas (VTG)" wrote: > > > I'm wondering why a process with uid 2 (that's daemon) > wants to use the > > wrapper. > > There is no process involved with that uid! > > In your sendmail.cf, what user and group to sendmail switch > to to run? I'd > bet that it's group daemon. Good guess. :) "daemon" seems to be the default-user which sendmail switches to. Now I turned it to root with "O DefaultUser=root". It works that way. BUT, thinking in terms of security, sendmail runs now as root all the time. Isn't that a bad idea? Is there another way to make the whole stuff work? Thanks in advance Thomas From majordomo-users-owner Thu Feb 15 06:13:35 2001 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-980720-1) id FAA20529; Thu, 15 Feb 2001 05:53:19 -0800 (PST) Received: from patty.nawcad.navy.mil (patty.nawcad.navy.mil [192.58.199.180]) by honor.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8BAEE17E8B for ; Thu, 15 Feb 2001 05:53:13 -0800 (PST) Received: by patty.nawcad.navy.mil; id IAA24398; Thu, 15 Feb 2001 08:53:16 -0500 (EST) From: Message-Id: <200102151353.IAA24398@patty.nawcad.navy.mil> Received: from tecnet1.jcte.jcs.mil(140.229.33.200) by patty.nawcad.navy.mil via smap (V4.2) id xma023630; Thu, 15 Feb 01 08:52:51 -0500 Date: Thu, 15 Feb 01 08:50:22 EDT To: majordomo-users@greatcircle.com Posted: Feb 15 08:50 2001 EST (Feb 15 13:50 ZULU) Subject: anyone seen this before Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk Hi, I'm receiving the following message from majordomo and I'm not too sure where to look for the problem. MAJORDOMO ABORT (mj_majordomo)!! Majordomo@tecnet1.jcte.jcs.mil: is not a valid return address. I have majordomo 1.94.5 installed on a Sun 2.6 platform. I'm using sendmail 8.9.3 with the m4 configuration. The error message is generated when I tried to do anything with majordomo while on the majordomo server. For example, I sent the message to majordomo with 'subscribe @tecnet1.jcte.jcs.mil'. I'm not sure if this a a majordomo configuration problem or a sendmail configuration. Dave Ansalvish From majordomo-users-owner Thu Feb 15 06:28:48 2001 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-980720-1) id GAA20683; Thu, 15 Feb 2001 06:08:13 -0800 (PST) Received: from wiggum.nawcad.navy.mil (wiggum.nawcad.navy.mil [192.58.199.176]) by honor.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 72C0617E8B for ; Thu, 15 Feb 2001 06:08:06 -0800 (PST) Received: by wiggum.nawcad.navy.mil; id JAA11035; Thu, 15 Feb 2001 09:08:08 -0500 (EST) From: Message-Id: <200102151408.JAA11035@wiggum.nawcad.navy.mil> Received: from tecnet1.jcte.jcs.mil(140.229.33.200) by wiggum.nawcad.navy.mil via smap (V4.2) id xma010378; Thu, 15 Feb 01 09:07:45 -0500 Date: Thu, 15 Feb 01 09:07:07 EDT To: majordomo-users@greatcircle.com Posted: Feb 15 09:07 2001 EST (Feb 15 14:07 ZULU) Subject: majordomo patches Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk Hi, I must be having a bad brain day. But, I was examining the patche files available for majordomo-1.94.5 and I did not see any documentation on the installation of the patches. Would I use the following process. - Download the patch files and store them in my majordomo home directory (not the source directory) - patch < patch_file I'm using a Solaris 2.6 server for my majordomo server. Thanks Dave From majordomo-users-owner Thu Feb 15 10:32:30 2001 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-980720-1) id KAA23079; Thu, 15 Feb 2001 10:16:45 -0800 (PST) Received: from ms2.catalina-inter.net (ms2.catalina-inter.net [207.105.234.11]) by honor.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7159E17E8B for ; Thu, 15 Feb 2001 10:16:39 -0800 (PST) Received: from bobbrews.com (dsl-02-018.catisle.net [63.203.7.18]) by ms2.catalina-inter.net (8.10.1/8.10.1) with ESMTP id f1FIGhS24270 for ; Thu, 15 Feb 2001 10:16:43 -0800 Message-ID: <3A8C1D0C.FD1B17BE@bobbrews.com> Date: Thu, 15 Feb 2001 10:16:44 -0800 From: bobbrews Organization: Brewer's Rendezvous - Best Darn Beer Store in the Area X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.76 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "majordomo-users@GreatCircle.COM" Subject: Newbie Question? Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk I am a new user running Majordomo 1.94.5. I cannot seem to send a message greater than 40K. I have read the faq and the readme, etc and cannot seem to locate info on size limit or how to change it if possible. Robert From majordomo-users-owner Thu Feb 15 10:47:26 2001 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-980720-1) id KAA23229; Thu, 15 Feb 2001 10:32:45 -0800 (PST) Received: from mta5.rcsntx.swbell.net (mta5.rcsntx.swbell.net [151.164.30.29]) by honor.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 609FF17E8B for ; Thu, 15 Feb 2001 10:32:40 -0800 (PST) Received: from swbell.net ([216.63.79.227]) by mta5.rcsntx.swbell.net (Sun Internet Mail Server sims.3.5.2000.01.05.12.18.p9) with ESMTP id <0G8T003J59EGYW@mta5.rcsntx.swbell.net> for majordomo-users@greatcircle.com; Thu, 15 Feb 2001 12:15:52 -0600 (CST) Date: Thu, 15 Feb 2001 12:17:45 -0600 From: Bill Polhemus Subject: Re: anyone seen this before To: davea@tecnet1.jcte.jcs.mil Cc: majordomo-users@greatcircle.com Message-id: <3A8C1D49.F3056C78@swbell.net> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.76 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-Accept-Language: en,pdf References: <200102151353.IAA24398@patty.nawcad.navy.mil> Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk Note that it is a Majordomo error message, not Sendmail. davea@tecnet1.jcte.jcs.mil wrote: > > Hi, > > I'm receiving the following message from majordomo and I'm not too sure where to look for the problem. > > MAJORDOMO ABORT (mj_majordomo)!! From majordomo-users-owner Thu Feb 15 10:56:28 2001 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-980720-1) id KAA23282; Thu, 15 Feb 2001 10:41:41 -0800 (PST) Received: from netscape.com (c3po.netscape.com [205.217.237.46]) by honor.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4C87717E8B for ; Thu, 15 Feb 2001 10:41:35 -0800 (PST) Received: from judge.mcom.com (judge.mcom.com [205.217.237.53]) by netscape.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with ESMTP id f1FIfXH16636 for ; Thu, 15 Feb 2001 10:41:33 -0800 (PST) Received: from netscape.com ([205.217.240.37]) by judge.mcom.com (Netscape Messaging Server 4.15) with ESMTP id G8TAL903.9BF; Thu, 15 Feb 2001 10:41:33 -0800 Message-ID: <3A8C22AA.5CC7B13F@netscape.com> Date: Thu, 15 Feb 2001 12:40:42 -0600 From: Dan Liston Organization: iPlanet eCommerce Solutions, A Sun-Netscape Alliance X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.76 [en] (X11; U; Linux 2.2.17-14 i686) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: davea@tecnet1.jcte.jcs.mil Cc: majordomo-users@GreatCircle.COM Subject: Re: majordomo patches References: <200102151408.JAA11035@wiggum.nawcad.navy.mil> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk That is the way I do it, and it works just fine in linux. Then I save the downloaded file to the source director for future reference. This worked for me, even though I had eneabled RCS to keep track of my own mods. Dan Liston davea@tecnet1.jcte.jcs.mil wrote: > > Hi, > > I must be having a bad brain day. But, I was examining the patche files available for majordomo-1.94.5 and I did not see any documentation on the installation of the patches. Would I use the following process. > > - Download the patch files and store them in my majordomo home directory (not the source directory) > > - patch < patch_file From majordomo-users-owner Thu Feb 15 11:12:29 2001 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-980720-1) id KAA23133; Thu, 15 Feb 2001 10:23:47 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail.slc.edu (Mail.SLC.Edu [198.83.6.253]) by honor.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C332A17E8B for ; Thu, 15 Feb 2001 10:23:40 -0800 (PST) Received: from khanh (Khanh.SLC.Edu [198.83.6.95]) by mail.slc.edu (8.11.2/8.11.1) with SMTP id f1FINTJ30968; Thu, 15 Feb 2001 13:23:29 -0500 From: "Khanh Tran" To: , Subject: RE: anyone seen this before Date: Thu, 15 Feb 2001 13:22:24 -0500 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.3018.1300 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <200102151353.IAA24398@patty.nawcad.navy.mil> Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk You should have made a "majordomo" user account (UID) on your Majordomo installation's system. The installation should also be permissioned appropriately to this user account. Khanh Tran Network Operations Westlands Building Sarah Lawrence College 1 Mead Way Bronxville, NY 10708-5999 (914) 395-2639 > -----Original Message----- > From: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM > [mailto:majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM]On Behalf Of > davea@tecnet1.jcte.jcs.mil > Sent: Thursday, February 15, 2001 7:50 AM > To: majordomo-users@GreatCircle.COM > Subject: anyone seen this before > > > Hi, > > I'm receiving the following message from majordomo and I'm not > too sure where to look for the problem. > > MAJORDOMO ABORT (mj_majordomo)!! > > Majordomo@tecnet1.jcte.jcs.mil: is not a valid return address. > > I have majordomo 1.94.5 installed on a Sun 2.6 platform. I'm > using sendmail 8.9.3 with the m4 configuration. > > The error message is generated when I tried to do anything with > majordomo while on the majordomo server. For example, I sent the > message to majordomo > with 'subscribe @tecnet1.jcte.jcs.mil'. I'm > not sure if this a a majordomo configuration problem or a > sendmail configuration. > > Dave Ansalvish > > From majordomo-users-owner Thu Feb 15 11:27:18 2001 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-980720-1) id KAA23156; Thu, 15 Feb 2001 10:25:57 -0800 (PST) Received: from netscape.com (r2d2.netscape.com [205.217.237.47]) by honor.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8D90B17E8B for ; Thu, 15 Feb 2001 10:25:51 -0800 (PST) Received: from judge.mcom.com (judge.mcom.com [205.217.237.53]) by netscape.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with ESMTP id f1FIPrb20636 for ; Thu, 15 Feb 2001 10:25:53 -0800 (PST) Received: from netscape.com ([205.217.240.37]) by judge.mcom.com (Netscape Messaging Server 4.15) with ESMTP id G8T9V400.3AD; Thu, 15 Feb 2001 10:25:52 -0800 Message-ID: <3A8C1EFD.3BDF0A18@netscape.com> Date: Thu, 15 Feb 2001 12:25:01 -0600 From: Dan Liston Organization: iPlanet eCommerce Solutions, A Sun-Netscape Alliance X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.76 [en] (X11; U; Linux 2.2.17-14 i686) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: davea@tecnet1.jcte.jcs.mil Cc: majordomo-users@GreatCircle.COM Subject: Re: anyone seen this before References: <200102151353.IAA24398@patty.nawcad.navy.mil> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk Yes, this was one of my complaints about 1.94.5. It is now looking for fully qualified email addresses in the "from" line of your messages. Anything echoed from the command line will not have your uid fully qualified as a valid email address. You can take the approach I adopted, and use a filter that checks validity from the 1.94.4 version, or you can set sendmail to "always_add_domain". In your sendmail.mc file; FEATURE(always_add_domain)dnl Or change line 605 of majordomo.pl # if (!(/\@/ && /\./)) { if (/\@/ && ! /\./) { above is line 605 commented out and 606 inserted. If you understand regex, this changes the requirement for @ and . in email addresses to just require a . if an @ exists. This is still broken for instances where you want to (within your own domain) use valid (within your own domain) addresses of user@host, but it solves the problem of sending email to majordomo from the command line. Dan Liston davea@tecnet1.jcte.jcs.mil wrote: > > Hi, > > I'm receiving the following message from majordomo and I'm not too sure where to look for the problem. > > MAJORDOMO ABORT (mj_majordomo)!! > > Majordomo@tecnet1.jcte.jcs.mil: is not a valid return address. > > I have majordomo 1.94.5 installed on a Sun 2.6 platform. I'm using sendmail 8.9.3 with the m4 configuration. > > The error message is generated when I tried to do anything with majordomo while on the majordomo server. For example, I sent the message to majordomo > with 'subscribe @tecnet1.jcte.jcs.mil'. I'm not sure if this a a majordomo configuration problem or a sendmail configuration. > > Dave Ansalvish From majordomo-users-owner Thu Feb 15 12:41:37 2001 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-980720-1) id MAA24358; Thu, 15 Feb 2001 12:23:01 -0800 (PST) Received: from selma.nawcad.navy.mil (selma.nawcad.navy.mil [192.58.199.170]) by honor.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B889417E8B for ; Thu, 15 Feb 2001 12:22:52 -0800 (PST) Received: by selma.nawcad.navy.mil; id PAA19300; Thu, 15 Feb 2001 15:22:55 -0500 (EST) From: Message-Id: <200102152022.PAA19300@selma.nawcad.navy.mil> Received: from tecnet1.jcte.jcs.mil(140.229.33.200) by selma.nawcad.navy.mil via smap (V4.2) id xma019230; Thu, 15 Feb 01 15:22:42 -0500 Date: Thu, 15 Feb 01 15:22:27 EDT To: majordomo-users@greatcircle.com Posted: Feb 15 15:22 2001 EST (Feb 15 20:22 ZULU) Subject: [FWD] anyone seen this before Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk Hi, I included the following message I received from Dan Liston concerning my problem I had with majordomo. I want to thank Dan for the information. Once his change in the majordomo.pl file my problem went away. My thanks again to Dan and to everyone else that responded. Dave Ansalvish ------------- Begin Forwarded Message ------------- From dliston@netscape.com Thu Feb 15 13:26:20 2001 Received: from otto.nawcad.navy.mil (otto-internal.nawcad.navy.mil [192.58.199.212]) by tecnet1.jcte.jcs.mil (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA05045 for ; Thu, 15 Feb 2001 13:26:14 -0500 (EST) Received: by otto.nawcad.navy.mil; id NAA11323; Thu, 15 Feb 2001 13:26:08 -0500 (EST) Received: from unknown(205.217.237.47) by otto.nawcad.navy.mil via smap (V4.2) id xma010952; Thu, 15 Feb 01 13:25:56 -0500 Received: from judge.mcom.com (judge.mcom.com [205.217.237.53]) by netscape.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with ESMTP id f1FIPrb20635 for ; Thu, 15 Feb 2001 10:25:53 -0800 (PST) Received: from netscape.com ([205.217.240.37]) by judge.mcom.com (Netscape Messaging Server 4.15) with ESMTP id G8T9V400.3AD; Thu, 15 Feb 2001 10:25:52 -0800 Sender: dliston@netscape.com (Dan Liston) Message-ID: <3A8C1EFD.3BDF0A18@netscape.com> Date: Thu, 15 Feb 2001 12:25:01 -0600 From: Dan Liston Organization: iPlanet eCommerce Solutions, A Sun-Netscape Alliance X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.76 [en] (X11; U; Linux 2.2.17-14 i686) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: davea@tecnet1.jcte.jcs.mil CC: majordomo-users@GreatCircle.COM Subject: Re: anyone seen this before References: <200102151353.IAA24398@patty.nawcad.navy.mil> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Yes, this was one of my complaints about 1.94.5. It is now looking for fully qualified email addresses in the "from" line of your messages. Anything echoed from the command line will not have your uid fully qualified as a valid email address. You can take the approach I adopted, and use a filter that checks validity from the 1.94.4 version, or you can set sendmail to "always_add_domain". In your sendmail.mc file; FEATURE(always_add_domain)dnl Or change line 605 of majordomo.pl # if (!(/\@/ && /\./)) { if (/\@/ && ! /\./) { above is line 605 commented out and 606 inserted. If you understand regex, this changes the requirement for @ and . in email addresses to just require a . if an @ exists. This is still broken for instances where you want to (within your own domain) use valid (within your own domain) addresses of user@host, but it solves the problem of sending email to majordomo from the command line. Dan Liston davea@tecnet1.jcte.jcs.mil wrote: > > Hi, > > I'm receiving the following message from majordomo and I'm not too sure where to look for the problem. > > MAJORDOMO ABORT (mj_majordomo)!! > > Majordomo@tecnet1.jcte.jcs.mil: is not a valid return address. > > I have majordomo 1.94.5 installed on a Sun 2.6 platform. I'm using sendmail 8.9.3 with the m4 configuration. > > The error message is generated when I tried to do anything with majordomo while on the majordomo server. For example, I sent the message to majordomo > with 'subscribe @tecnet1.jcte.jcs.mil'. I'm not sure if this a a majordomo configuration problem or a sendmail configuration. > > Dave Ansalvish ------------- End Forwarded Message ------------- From majordomo-users-owner Thu Feb 15 13:26:31 2001 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-980720-1) id NAA24961; Thu, 15 Feb 2001 13:16:30 -0800 (PST) Received: from mta5.rcsntx.swbell.net (mta5.rcsntx.swbell.net [151.164.30.29]) by honor.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1997E17E8B for ; Thu, 15 Feb 2001 13:16:25 -0800 (PST) Received: from swbell.net ([216.63.79.227]) by mta5.rcsntx.swbell.net (Sun Internet Mail Server sims.3.5.2000.01.05.12.18.p9) with ESMTP id <0G8T00AVMH5OKO@mta5.rcsntx.swbell.net> for majordomo-users@GreatCircle.COM; Thu, 15 Feb 2001 15:03:24 -0600 (CST) Date: Thu, 15 Feb 2001 15:05:20 -0600 From: Bill Polhemus Subject: Re: Newbie Question? To: bobbrews Cc: "majordomo-users@GreatCircle.COM" Message-id: <3A8C4490.14BD7D69@swbell.net> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.76 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-Accept-Language: en,pdf References: <3A8C1D0C.FD1B17BE@bobbrews.com> Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk Sounds like a restriction of the mail server(s) that you're sending from/to. bobbrews wrote: > > I am a new user running Majordomo 1.94.5. I cannot seem to send a > message greater than 40K. I have read the faq and the readme, etc and > cannot seem to locate info on size limit or how to change it if > possible. From majordomo-users-owner Thu Feb 15 13:42:50 2001 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-980720-1) id NAA24902; Thu, 15 Feb 2001 13:11:33 -0800 (PST) Received: from cloud.ccsf.cc.ca.us (cloud.ccsf.cc.ca.us [147.144.1.212]) by honor.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5EF1117E8B for ; Thu, 15 Feb 2001 13:11:27 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (jjah@localhost) by cloud.ccsf.cc.ca.us (8.9.0/8.9.0) with SMTP id NAA18188; Thu, 15 Feb 2001 13:11:25 -0800 (PST) Date: Thu, 15 Feb 2001 13:11:25 -0800 (PST) From: "Joe R. Jah" To: davea@tecnet1.jcte.jcs.mil Cc: majordomo-users@GreatCircle.COM Subject: Re: majordomo patches In-Reply-To: <200102151408.JAA11035@wiggum.nawcad.navy.mil> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk On Thu, 15 Feb 2001 davea@tecnet1.jcte.jcs.mil wrote: > Date: Thu, 15 Feb 01 09:07:07 EDT > From: davea@tecnet1.jcte.jcs.mil > To: majordomo-users@GreatCircle.COM > Subject: majordomo patches > > Hi, > > I must be having a bad brain day. But, I was examining the patche > files available for majordomo-1.94.5 and I did not see any documentation > on the installation of the patches. Would I use the following process. > > - Download the patch files and store them in my majordomo home > directory (not the source directory) > > - patch < patch_file > > I'm using a Solaris 2.6 server for my majordomo server. more patch_file man patch Regards, Joe -- _/ _/_/_/ _/ ____________ __o _/ _/ _/ _/ ______________ _-\<,_ _/ _/ _/_/_/ _/ _/ ......(_)/ (_) _/_/ oe _/ _/. _/_/ ah jjah@cloud.ccsf.cc.ca.us From majordomo-users-owner Thu Feb 15 13:57:58 2001 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-980720-1) id NAA25242; Thu, 15 Feb 2001 13:39:36 -0800 (PST) Received: from castro.queernet.org (castro.queernet.org [209.157.101.253]) by honor.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2E32C17E8B for ; Thu, 15 Feb 2001 13:39:31 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (rogerk@localhost) by castro.queernet.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) with ESMTP id f1FLdJK15677 Date: Thu, 15 Feb 2001 13:39:19 -0800 (PST) From: "Roger B.A. Klorese" To: Bill Polhemus Cc: bobbrews , "majordomo-users@GreatCircle.COM" Subject: Re: Newbie Question? In-Reply-To: <3A8C4490.14BD7D69@swbell.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk On Thu, 15 Feb 2001, Bill Polhemus wrote: > Sounds like a restriction of the mail server(s) that you're sending from/to. > > bobbrews wrote: > > > > I am a new user running Majordomo 1.94.5. I cannot seem to send a > > message greater than 40K. I have read the faq and the readme, etc and > > cannot seem to locate info on size limit or how to change it if > > possible. There is a "maxlength" parameter for each list. It's set by default to 40000. you can overrride it in the list config file. -- ROGER B.A. KLORESE rogerk@QueerNet.ORG PO Box 14309 San Francisco, CA 94114 "There is only one real blasphemy -- the refusal of joy!" -- Paul Rudnick From majordomo-users-owner Thu Feb 15 14:27:35 2001 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-980720-1) id OAA25680; Thu, 15 Feb 2001 14:13:23 -0800 (PST) Received: from sironic.com (sironic.com [161.58.224.73]) by honor.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id BB60317E8B for ; Thu, 15 Feb 2001 14:13:17 -0800 (PST) Received: from nacnud.com (sironic.com [161.58.224.73]) by sironic.com (8.8.8) id PAA51061; Thu, 15 Feb 2001 15:13:22 -0700 (MST) Message-Id: <200102152213.PAA51061@sironic.com> Date: Thu, 15 Feb 2001 22:13:22 -0000 To: Subject: Re: Newbie Question? From: "Jonathan Duncan" X-Mailer: TWIG 2.6.1 In-Reply-To: <3A8C1D0C.FD1B17BE@bobbrews.com> Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk There is a section in your .config file that you can set the max size at. bobbrews said: > I am a new user running Majordomo 1.94.5. I cannot seem to send a > message greater than 40K. I have read the faq and the readme, etc and > cannot seem to locate info on size limit or how to change it if > possible. > > Robert > > > -- Jonathan Duncan nacnud.com administrator Nacnud, Inc. ________________________________________________________________ Brought to you by nacnudMail using TWIG. http://www.nacnud.com From majordomo-users-owner Thu Feb 15 16:27:28 2001 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-980720-1) id QAA27222; Thu, 15 Feb 2001 16:11:27 -0800 (PST) Received: from esson.net (unknown [216.102.129.43]) by honor.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E7BEA17E8B for ; Thu, 15 Feb 2001 16:11:20 -0800 (PST) Received: from ekasky.wrenkasky.com (ekasky.usc.edu [128.125.63.168]) by esson.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id QAA21861; Thu, 15 Feb 2001 16:11:19 -0800 Message-Id: <4.3.2.7.2.20010215161021.00b3eec0@pop3.primenet.com> X-Sender: edkasky@pop3.primenet.com (Unverified) X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 4.3.2 Date: Thu, 15 Feb 2001 16:11:11 -0800 To: bobbrews , "majordomo-users@GreatCircle.COM" From: Ed Kasky Subject: Re: Newbie Question? In-Reply-To: <3A8C1D0C.FD1B17BE@bobbrews.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk From one of my list.config files... # maxlength [integer] (40000) # The maximum size of an unapproved message in characters. When # used with digest, a new digest will be automatically generated if # the size of the digest exceeds this number of characters. maxlength = 40000 Increase this as you need... At 10:16 AM 2/15/2001 -0800, bobbrews wrote: >I am a new user running Majordomo 1.94.5. I cannot seem to send a >message greater than 40K. I have read the faq and the readme, etc and >cannot seem to locate info on size limit or how to change it if >possible. > >Robert From majordomo-users-owner Thu Feb 15 16:56:48 2001 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-980720-1) id QAA27649; Thu, 15 Feb 2001 16:47:10 -0800 (PST) Received: from mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net (mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net [151.164.30.28]) by honor.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6F94617E8B for ; Thu, 15 Feb 2001 16:47:05 -0800 (PST) Received: from swbell.net ([216.63.79.227]) by mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net (Sun Internet Mail Server sims.3.5.2000.01.05.12.18.p9) with ESMTP id <0G8T00FRIQVT13@mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net> for majordomo-users@greatcircle.com; Thu, 15 Feb 2001 18:33:29 -0600 (CST) Date: Thu, 15 Feb 2001 18:33:29 -0600 From: Bill Polhemus Subject: Re: Newbie Question? To: "Roger B.A. Klorese" , majordomo-users@greatcircle.com Message-id: <3A8C7559.1DD11583@swbell.net> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.76 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-Accept-Language: en,pdf References: Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk I believe that is a parameter effecting how big a DIGEST message can grow before it's sent, isn't it? "Roger B.A. Klorese" wrote: > > On Thu, 15 Feb 2001, Bill Polhemus wrote: > > Sounds like a restriction of the mail server(s) that you're sending from/to. > > > > bobbrews wrote: > > > > > > I am a new user running Majordomo 1.94.5. I cannot seem to send a > > > message greater than 40K. I have read the faq and the readme, etc and > > > cannot seem to locate info on size limit or how to change it if > > > possible. > > There is a "maxlength" parameter for each list. It's set by default to > 40000. you can overrride it in the list config file. > > -- > ROGER B.A. KLORESE rogerk@QueerNet.ORG > PO Box 14309 San Francisco, CA 94114 > "There is only one real blasphemy -- the refusal of joy!" -- Paul Rudnick From majordomo-users-owner Thu Feb 15 17:11:18 2001 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-980720-1) id QAA27733; Thu, 15 Feb 2001 16:55:41 -0800 (PST) Received: from castro.queernet.org (castro.queernet.org [209.157.101.253]) by honor.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id CB24A17EAF for ; Thu, 15 Feb 2001 16:55:35 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (rogerk@localhost) by castro.queernet.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) with ESMTP id f1G0tah22342 Date: Thu, 15 Feb 2001 16:55:36 -0800 (PST) From: "Roger B.A. Klorese" To: Bill Polhemus Cc: Subject: Re: Newbie Question? In-Reply-To: <3A8C7559.1DD11583@swbell.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk On Thu, 15 Feb 2001, Bill Polhemus wrote: > I believe that is a parameter effecting how big a DIGEST message can grow before > it's sent, isn't it? In the config file for the digest, it does that. In the config file for a non-digest, it sets the maximum allowable message size. -- ROGER B.A. KLORESE rogerk@QueerNet.ORG PO Box 14309 San Francisco, CA 94114 "There is only one real blasphemy -- the refusal of joy!" -- Paul Rudnick From majordomo-users-owner Fri Feb 16 20:49:31 2001 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-980720-1) id UAA24944; Fri, 16 Feb 2001 20:22:44 -0800 (PST) Received: from arm.mrball.net (mrball.net [209.85.130.137]) by honor.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7064D17EB1 for ; Fri, 16 Feb 2001 20:22:37 -0800 (PST) Received: from mrball.net (todd.mrball.net [192.168.18.3]) by arm.mrball.net (8.11.2/8.11.2) with ESMTP id f1H4MXd03635; Fri, 16 Feb 2001 20:22:34 -0800 Message-ID: <3A8DFC86.60D419C3@mrball.net> Date: Fri, 16 Feb 2001 20:22:30 -0800 From: Todd Lyons X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (X11; U; Linux 2.2.14-zip i586) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Bill Polhemus Cc: majordomo-users@GreatCircle.COM Subject: Re: Newbie Question? References: <3A8C7559.1DD11583@swbell.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk Bill Polhemus wrote: > > I believe that is a parameter effecting how big a DIGEST message can grow before > it's sent, isn't it? It's a setting in each listname.config file. A digest is just a special form a list, so it has its own config file with a seperate setting from the main list. -- Blue skies... Todd | Get a bigger hammer! | Never mind me. I'm speaking out of | | http://www.mrball.net | my /dev/ass anyway. | | http://faq.mrball.net | --Gash Teshome | From majordomo-users-owner Sun Feb 18 07:24:07 2001 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-980720-1) id HAA23566; Sun, 18 Feb 2001 07:21:30 -0800 (PST) Received: from proxy1.addr.com (unknown [209.249.147.248]) by honor.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3FD9217EAE for ; Sun, 18 Feb 2001 07:21:24 -0800 (PST) Received: from adsl-80-104-233.jax.bellsouth.net (adsl-80-104-233.jax.bellsouth.net [65.80.104.233]) by proxy1.addr.com (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id HAA22623 for ; Sun, 18 Feb 2001 07:19:06 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from rdcarson@OTnow.com) Date: Sun, 18 Feb 2001 10:18:58 -0500 From: Ron Carson X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.49) UNREG / CD5BF9353B3B7091 X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <19415056602.20010218101858@OTnow.com> To: majordomo-users@GreatCircle.COM Subject: Archiving Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk Hello All: Is their a procedure where I can create a searchable web-based archive a list. I am a list owner not administrator. Ron From majordomo-users-owner Sun Feb 18 10:39:08 2001 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-980720-1) id KAA25243; Sun, 18 Feb 2001 10:28:02 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail.naisp.net (mail.naisp.net [216.129.152.3]) by honor.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B303317EAE for ; Sun, 18 Feb 2001 10:27:54 -0800 (PST) Received: from kosh (kosh.ne.mediaone.net [24.128.110.223]) by mail.naisp.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id NAA14773 for ; Sun, 18 Feb 2001 13:27:59 -0500 Message-ID: <005a01c099d8$84ea30e0$010aa8c0@naisp.net> From: "Steven D. Porter" To: Subject: Looping Problem Date: Sun, 18 Feb 2001 13:27:57 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0057_01C099AE.9B8DE1E0" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0057_01C099AE.9B8DE1E0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Sys Info: majordomo_version =3D "1.94.4" Sendmail 8.9.3/8.9.3 perl-5.00503-12 RedHat Linux 6.2 I don't use majordomo for lists, but only for the autoreply function. I = have several aliases set up in /etc/aliases that send the "sender" an = autoreply message, and the original mail is sent to a real e-mail = address for manual response. For example, if someone sends mail to sales@blah.com, the sender would = receive an automated reply that has relevant info on who to call, etc., = for sales info, and the original e-mail message is sent to an actual = sales person's e-mail address. Recently, spammers have begun sending e-mail to sales@blah.com and in = their reply-to (Mail-From) they also have it configured as if it were = coming from sales@blah.com. So, my server receives a mail from = sales@blah.com which is addressed to sales@blah.com. This obviously = creates a massive loop, while my server keeps autoresponding to itself, = and the sales person's mailbox gets filled with thousands of the = autoresponder message, eventually leading to the crashing of my mail = server(s), if not caught in time. How can I stop this from happening? Would I use the = $global_taboo_headers section of majordomo.cf? If so, what is the = correct syntax to prevent mail being sent from the majordomo sales alias = address? Reading through the archives, I think I found the right syntax, but = cannot be sure. Would this work?: /^from:sales\@blah\.com/i OR /^from:\s.*sales@blah\.com/i I have seen several variants in the archives, but can't determine which = one is best to use. Since the looping causes such major problems, I'm = afraid to test either until I have some sort of guidance from the list. = If neither situation would work, does anyone have another suggestion to = try? Thanks, Steve ------=_NextPart_000_0057_01C099AE.9B8DE1E0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Sys Info:
majordomo_version =3D = "1.94.4"
Sendmail 8.9.3/8.9.3
perl-5.00503-12
RedHat Linux 6.2
 
I don't use majordomo for lists, but = only for the=20 autoreply function.  I have several aliases set up in /etc/aliases = that=20 send the "sender" an autoreply message, and the original mail is sent to = a real=20 e-mail address for manual response.
 
For example, if someone sends mail to = sales@blah.com, the sender would = receive an=20 automated reply that has relevant info on who to call, etc., for sales = info, and=20 the original e-mail message is sent to an actual sales person's e-mail=20 address.
 
Recently, spammers have begun sending = e-mail to sales@blah.com and in their reply-to=20 (Mail-From) they also have it configured as if it were coming from sales@blah.com.  So, my server = receives a=20 mail from sales@blah.com which is = addressed=20 to sales@blah.com.  This = obviously=20 creates a massive loop, while my server keeps autoresponding to itself, = and the=20 sales person's mailbox gets filled with thousands of the autoresponder = message,=20 eventually leading to the crashing of my mail server(s), if not caught = in=20 time.
 
How can I stop this from = happening?  Would I=20 use the $global_taboo_headers section of majordomo.cf?  If so, what = is the=20 correct syntax to prevent mail being sent from the majordomo sales=20 alias address?
 
Reading through the archives, I think I = found the=20 right syntax, but cannot be sure.  Would this work?:
 
/^from:sales\@blah\.com/i
 
OR
 
/^from:\s.*sales@blah\.com/i
 
I have seen several variants in the = archives, but=20 can't determine which one is best to use.  Since the looping causes = such=20 major problems, I'm afraid to test either until I have some sort of = guidance=20 from the list.  If neither situation would work, does anyone have = another=20 suggestion to try?
 
Thanks,
 
Steve
 
 
------=_NextPart_000_0057_01C099AE.9B8DE1E0-- From majordomo-users-owner Sun Feb 18 11:24:16 2001 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-980720-1) id LAA25799; Sun, 18 Feb 2001 11:18:45 -0800 (PST) Received: from esson.net (unknown [216.102.129.43]) by honor.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8479217EAE for ; Sun, 18 Feb 2001 11:18:37 -0800 (PST) Received: from eds.wrenkasky.com (eds.wrenkasky.com [10.10.10.11]) by esson.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA28715; Sun, 18 Feb 2001 11:18:40 -0800 Message-Id: <4.3.2.7.2.20010218111703.00b46b68@pop.primenet.com> X-Sender: edkasky@pop.primenet.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 4.3.2 Date: Sun, 18 Feb 2001 11:18:39 -0800 To: Ron Carson , majordomo-users@GreatCircle.COM From: Ed Kasky Subject: Re: Archiving In-Reply-To: <19415056602.20010218101858@OTnow.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk If you look back in the archives for this month, you will find a discussion of exactly this issue. Ed ~~ At 10:18 AM Sunday, 2/18/2001, Ron Carson wrote -=> >Hello All: > >Is their a procedure where I can create a searchable web-based archive a >list. I am a list owner not administrator. > >Ron Ed Kasky Los Angeles, CA . . . . . . . . There is so much good in the worst of us and so much bad in the best of us that it ill behooves us to find fault with the rest of us. -Mom From majordomo-users-owner Sun Feb 18 11:54:09 2001 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-980720-1) id LAA26056; Sun, 18 Feb 2001 11:49:53 -0800 (PST) Received: from immtapop3.bellatlantic.net (immtapop3.bellatlantic.net [199.45.40.140]) by honor.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 21B1D17EAE for ; Sun, 18 Feb 2001 11:49:46 -0800 (PST) Received: from mwserver (client-151-197-115-20.bellatlantic.net [151.197.115.20]) by immtapop3.bellatlantic.net (8.9.1/8.9.1) with SMTP id OAA17272 for ; Sun, 18 Feb 2001 14:49:49 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <004f01c099e4$9baeeee0$1ca314d8@mwserver.net> From: "mzchen" To: Subject: smtp;550 5.7.1 Relaying denied Date: Sun, 18 Feb 2001 14:54:29 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_004C_01C099BA.B1EDEAA0" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_004C_01C099BA.B1EDEAA0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi everyone, I have Redhat7, sendmail 8.11, majordomo1.94.5 installed. I can do the virtual hosting, sendmail to virtual domains before = majordomo1.94.5 is installed. I have set up a list on only 1 virtual domain after installed = majordomo1.94.5. ( this is the only list of all domains/virtual domains = at this localhost machine) I can do subscribe list, post message to this list, ... etc from this = local machine. and I can send mail to all users at all virtual domains originated from this = localhost box(with Redhat7, sendmail8.11, majordomo1.94.5) (i.e. sendmail to = virtual domains internal -> internal is fine) However, I can not send mail to all users at all virtual domains = originated from external box. (i.e sendmails to virtual domains external = to internal is not working) and get error message: smtp; 550 5.7.1 users@virtualdomain.com ... = Relaying denied. Does anyone know what may be the problem? sendmail problem? or majordomo problem? ( I can send mail to all virtual domains external to internal = w/o majordomo installed). Thank you in advance. mzchen ------=_NextPart_000_004C_01C099BA.B1EDEAA0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hi everyone,
 
I have Redhat7, sendmail 8.11, = majordomo1.94.5=20 installed.
 
I can do the virtual hosting, sendmail = to virtual=20 domains before majordomo1.94.5 is installed.
 
I have set up a list on only 1 = virtual=20 domain  after installed majordomo1.94.5. ( this is the only list of = all=20 domains/virtual domains at this localhost machine)
 
I can do subscribe list, post message = to this list,=20 ... etc from this local machine. and
I can send mail to all users at all = virtual domains=20 originated from this localhost
box(with Redhat7, sendmail8.11, = majordomo1.94.5)=20 (i.e. sendmail to virtual domains internal -> internal is=20 fine)
 
However,  I can not send mail to = all users at=20 all virtual domains originated from external box. (i.e sendmails to = virtual=20 domains external to internal is not working)
 
and get error message:  smtp; 550 = 5.7.1 users@virtualdomain.com ...=20 Relaying
denied.
 
Does anyone know what may be the = problem? sendmail=20 problem? or majordomo
problem?  ( I can send mail to all = virtual=20 domains external to internal w/o majordomo installed).
 
Thank you in advance.
 
 
mzchen
 
 
 
 
------=_NextPart_000_004C_01C099BA.B1EDEAA0-- From majordomo-users-owner Sun Feb 18 12:39:09 2001 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-980720-1) id MAA26511; Sun, 18 Feb 2001 12:27:00 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail.ccpc.net (unknown [12.96.176.9]) by honor.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id CE42817EAE for ; Sun, 18 Feb 2001 12:26:54 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (steve@localhost) by mail.ccpc.net (8.9.3/8.9.0) with SMTP id PAA31212 for ; Sun, 18 Feb 2001 15:26:58 -0500 Date: Sun, 18 Feb 2001 15:26:58 -0500 (EST) From: Steve Thomas To: majordomo-users@GreatCircle.COM Subject: wierdness.... Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk greetings all.... quick question.... what would cause MD to run fine for many months then out of the blue start duplicating email messages. Its been running cleanly, then for no reason each message sent to a "list" is duplicated multiple times. Each receipient in the list gets the same email message 2, 3, 4, or 5 times. TIA... Steve Thomas -------------------------------------------------------------------------- Crystal Clear P.C. Internet Services and More http://www.ccpc.net Voice - 607-397-7374 Email - steve@ccpc.net From majordomo-users-owner Sun Feb 18 14:24:10 2001 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-980720-1) id OAA27576; Sun, 18 Feb 2001 14:15:33 -0800 (PST) Received: from daniel.sonny.org (daniel-1.suxcpe.cableone.net [24.116.56.30]) by honor.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A818817EAE for ; Sun, 18 Feb 2001 14:15:26 -0800 (PST) Received: from netscape.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by daniel.sonny.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id QAA21399; Sun, 18 Feb 2001 16:15:12 -0600 Message-ID: <3A904970.14B9B3F@netscape.com> Date: Sun, 18 Feb 2001 16:15:12 -0600 From: "D. Liston" Organization: iPlanet E-Commerce Solutions, A Sun Netscape Alliance X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.75 [en] (X11; U; Linux 2.2.16-3 i686) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "Steven D. Porter" Cc: majordomo-users@GreatCircle.COM Subject: Re: Looping Problem References: <005a01c099d8$84ea30e0$010aa8c0@naisp.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk I think your messaging architecture needs to be re-examined, and I doubt changing $global_anything in majordomo.cf will help your situation. You are using wrapper, but you are not "using" majordomo. The auto-reply functionality of request-answer only uses the majordomo_dont_reply in majordomo.cf (but could be hacked to use only it's own). This would probably be the best way to go considering the way you have implemented your mail system. Request-answer could be greatly customized, including the ability to refuse sending a message to a reply-to address of itself (sales@blah.com). To answer your questions about regular expression filters, I will start by telling you exactly what each filter catches. > /^from:sales\@blah\.com/i Above says, starting from the beginning of a line look for letter F followed by letter R followed by letter O, letter M, a colon, an S, an A, an L, an E, an S, an @ sign, ... to .COM, ignoring the case of all letters, but not anchoring M as the end of the line. > /^from:\s.*sales@blah\.com/i Above is almost the same, except it expects colon to be followed by one whitespace character, and then zero or more of any other character before picking up the sequence with S, A, L, E, S, @, B, ... M with the case of the letters being ignored and again allowing additional characters to be present after the .COM but before the end of the line. You can modify the $majordomo_dont_reply to include the sales addres like so, $majordomo_dont_reply = '(sales|mailer-daemon|uucp|listserv|majordomo)\@'; but this also means that someone with a legitimate address of sales@other.domain would never get a reply from sales@blah.com. And if a message ever did come in from one of the above addresses, the majordomo-owner would receive the "not replying to $1 to avoid mail loop" abort message. Not knowing your aliases, I am not positive this would help either. Dan Liston > "Steven D. Porter" wrote: > > Sys Info: > majordomo_version = "1.94.4" > Sendmail 8.9.3/8.9.3 > perl-5.00503-12 > RedHat Linux 6.2 > > I don't use majordomo for lists, but only for the autoreply function. I have several aliases set up in /etc/aliases that send the "sender" an autoreply message, and the original mail is sent to a real e-mail address for manual response. > > For example, if someone sends mail to sales@blah.com, the sender would receive an automated reply that has relevant info on who to call, etc., for sales info, and the original e-mail message is sent to an actual sales person's e-mail address. > > Recently, spammers have begun sending e-mail to sales@blah.com and in their reply-to (Mail-From) they also have it configured as if it were coming from sales@blah.com. So, my server receives a mail from sales@blah.com which is addressed to sales@blah.com. This obviously creates a massive loop, while my server keeps autoresponding to itself, and the sales person's mailbox gets filled with thousands of the autoresponder message, eventually leading to the crashing of my mail server(s), if not caught in time. > > How can I stop this from happening? Would I use the $global_taboo_headers section of majordomo.cf? If so, what is the correct syntax to prevent mail being sent from the majordomo sales alias address? > > Reading through the archives, I think I found the right syntax, but cannot be sure. Would this work?: > > /^from:sales\@blah\.com/i > > OR > > /^from:\s.*sales@blah\.com/i > > I have seen several variants in the archives, but can't determine which one is best to use. Since the looping causes such major problems, I'm afraid to test either until I have some sort of guidance from the list. If neither situation would work, does anyone have another suggestion to try? > > Thanks, > > Steve From majordomo-users-owner Sun Feb 18 15:54:16 2001 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-980720-1) id PAA28486; Sun, 18 Feb 2001 15:51:08 -0800 (PST) Received: from ns1.gizmola.com (unknown [208.41.129.126]) by honor.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3459F17EAE for ; Sun, 18 Feb 2001 15:51:02 -0800 (PST) Received: from david750 ([208.41.129.116]) by ns1.gizmola.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id PAA20804; Sun, 18 Feb 2001 15:51:02 -0800 From: "Giz" To: "Bill Polhemus" , "Roger B.A. Klorese" , Subject: RE: Newbie Question? Date: Sun, 18 Feb 2001 15:55:06 -0800 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 In-Reply-To: <3A8C7559.1DD11583@swbell.net> Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk Nope. I had this same problem when I set up my lists. Increasing the maxlength parameter solved the problem. -----Original Message----- From: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM [mailto:majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM]On Behalf Of Bill Polhemus Sent: Thursday, February 15, 2001 4:33 PM To: Roger B.A. Klorese; majordomo-users@GreatCircle.COM Subject: Re: Newbie Question? I believe that is a parameter effecting how big a DIGEST message can grow before it's sent, isn't it? "Roger B.A. Klorese" wrote: > > On Thu, 15 Feb 2001, Bill Polhemus wrote: > > Sounds like a restriction of the mail server(s) that you're sending from/to. > > > > bobbrews wrote: > > > > > > I am a new user running Majordomo 1.94.5. I cannot seem to send a > > > message greater than 40K. I have read the faq and the readme, etc and > > > cannot seem to locate info on size limit or how to change it if > > > possible. > > There is a "maxlength" parameter for each list. It's set by default to > 40000. you can overrride it in the list config file. > > -- > ROGER B.A. KLORESE rogerk@QueerNet.ORG > PO Box 14309 San Francisco, CA 94114 > "There is only one real blasphemy -- the refusal of joy!" -- Paul Rudnick From majordomo-users-owner Sun Feb 18 16:09:10 2001 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-980720-1) id PAA28460; Sun, 18 Feb 2001 15:48:49 -0800 (PST) Received: from ns1.gizmola.com (unknown [208.41.129.126]) by honor.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4622A17EAE for ; Sun, 18 Feb 2001 15:48:41 -0800 (PST) Received: from david750 ([208.41.129.116]) by ns1.gizmola.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id PAA20794; Sun, 18 Feb 2001 15:48:45 -0800 From: "Giz" To: "mzchen" , Subject: RE: smtp;550 5.7.1 Relaying denied Date: Sun, 18 Feb 2001 15:52:49 -0800 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0004_01C099C2.D8201420" X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 In-Reply-To: <004f01c099e4$9baeeee0$1ca314d8@mwserver.net> Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0004_01C099C2.D8201420 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Yup. This is in the sendmail readme: "Relaying (transmission of messages from a site outside your host (class {w}) to another site except yours) is denied by default. Note that this changed in sendmail 8.9; previous versions allowed relaying by default." In this case your virtual domain is unknown to sendmail, so you need to allow sendmail to relay mail for that domain, which is done in a new series of config files that then have to be run through makemap in order to build their database format. Read this item in the sendmail FAQ: http://www.sendmail.org/faq/section3.html#3.27 Also, read this sendmail tip, as there are a number of ways to handle allowing for relaying: http://www.sendmail.org/tips/relaying.html Again, you want to use the one that allows for relaying of your virtual domain. If you want to lock down the security a bit more, you could make specific entries for the aliases that are actually doing the transport (list-owner etc.) -----Original Message----- From: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM [mailto:majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM]On Behalf Of mzchen Sent: Sunday, February 18, 2001 11:54 AM To: Majordomo-Users@GreatCircle.COM Subject: smtp;550 5.7.1 Relaying denied Hi everyone, I have Redhat7, sendmail 8.11, majordomo1.94.5 installed. I can do the virtual hosting, sendmail to virtual domains before majordomo1.94.5 is installed. I have set up a list on only 1 virtual domain after installed majordomo1.94.5. ( this is the only list of all domains/virtual domains at this localhost machine) I can do subscribe list, post message to this list, ... etc from this local machine. and I can send mail to all users at all virtual domains originated from this localhost box(with Redhat7, sendmail8.11, majordomo1.94.5) (i.e. sendmail to virtual domains internal -> internal is fine) However, I can not send mail to all users at all virtual domains originated from external box. (i.e sendmails to virtual domains external to internal is not working) and get error message: smtp; 550 5.7.1 users@virtualdomain.com ... Relaying denied. Does anyone know what may be the problem? sendmail problem? or majordomo problem? ( I can send mail to all virtual domains external to internal w/o majordomo installed). Thank you in advance. mzchen ------=_NextPart_000_0004_01C099C2.D8201420 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Yup.  This is in the sendmail=20 readme:

"Relaying (transmission of messages = from a site=20 outside your host (class {w}) to another site except yours) is denied by = default. Note that this changed in sendmail 8.9; previous versions = allowed=20 relaying by default."

In this = case your=20 virtual domain is unknown to sendmail, so you need to allow sendmail to = relay=20 mail for that domain, which is done in a new series of config files that = then=20 have to be run through makemap in order to build their database=20 format.

Read = this item in=20 the sendmail FAQ:  http://www.sendmail.org/faq/section3.html#3.27

Also, read this=20 sendmail tip, as there are a number of ways to handle allowing for=20 relaying:  http://www.sendmail.o= rg/tips/relaying.html

Again, you want to=20 use the one that allows for relaying of your virtual domain.  If = you want=20 to lock down the security a bit more, you could make specific entries = for the=20 aliases that are actually doing the transport (list-owner=20 etc.)

-----Original Message-----
From:=20 majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM=20 [mailto:majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM]On Behalf Of=20 mzchen
Sent: Sunday, February 18, 2001 11:54 = AM
To:=20 Majordomo-Users@GreatCircle.COM
Subject: smtp;550 5.7.1 = Relaying=20 denied

Hi everyone,
 
I have Redhat7, sendmail 8.11, = majordomo1.94.5=20 installed.
 
I can do the virtual hosting, = sendmail to virtual=20 domains before majordomo1.94.5 is installed.
 
I have set up a list on only 1 = virtual=20 domain  after installed majordomo1.94.5. ( this is the only list = of all=20 domains/virtual domains at this localhost machine)
 
I can do subscribe list, post message = to this=20 list, ... etc from this local machine. and
I can send mail to all users at all = virtual=20 domains originated from this localhost
box(with Redhat7, sendmail8.11, = majordomo1.94.5)=20 (i.e. sendmail to virtual domains internal -> internal is=20 fine)
 
However,  I can not send mail to = all users=20 at all virtual domains originated from external box. (i.e sendmails to = virtual=20 domains external to internal is not working)
 
and get error message:  smtp; = 550 5.7.1 users@virtualdomain.com = ...=20 Relaying
denied.
 
Does anyone know what may be the = problem?=20 sendmail problem? or majordomo
problem?  ( I can send mail to = all virtual=20 domains external to internal w/o majordomo installed).
 
Thank you in advance.
 
 
mzchen
 
 
 
 
------=_NextPart_000_0004_01C099C2.D8201420-- From majordomo-users-owner Sun Feb 18 20:25:33 2001 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-980720-1) id UAA01140; Sun, 18 Feb 2001 20:14:02 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail.naisp.net (mail.naisp.net [216.129.152.3]) by honor.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2CEA117EB1 for ; Sun, 18 Feb 2001 20:13:55 -0800 (PST) Received: from kosh (kosh.ne.mediaone.net [24.128.110.223]) by mail.naisp.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id XAA08593; Sun, 18 Feb 2001 23:13:46 -0500 Message-ID: <000701c09a2a$596ea020$010aa8c0@naisp.net> From: "Steven D. Porter" To: "D. Liston" Cc: References: <005a01c099d8$84ea30e0$010aa8c0@naisp.net> <3A904970.14B9B3F@netscape.com> Subject: Re: Looping Problem Date: Sun, 18 Feb 2001 23:13:43 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk >I think your messaging architecture needs to be re-examined, and I doubt changing $global_anything in majordomo.cf will help >your situation. You are using wrapper, but you are not "using" majordomo. The auto-reply functionality of request-answer >only uses the majordomo_dont_reply in majordomo.cf (but could be hacked to use only it's own). This would probably be the >best way to go considering the way you have implemented your mail system. Request-answer could be greatly customized, >including the ability to refuse sending a message to a reply-to address of itself (sales@blah.com). Thanks Dan, Unfortunately, I've tried that already, but it doesn't seem to work. This is the line as modified in my majordomo.cf: $majordomo_dont_reply = '(sales|support|billing|mailer-daemon|uucp|listserv|majordomo|listproc)\@'; Yet mail sent from sales@blah.com with a reply-to address of sales@blah.com still result in the massive looping. Until the bloody spammers started this trick, using majordomo's autoreply function worked perfectly for my needs. I'm just a small ISP, that feels that a reply when customers send something to support, at least gives them some basic info to work with until we are able to respond manually. It also lets them know that the message was at least received. I'm not aware of any other autoresponders such as majordomo, that would do the same thing. Suggestions would be welcome, of course :p Thanks again, - Steve - From majordomo-users-owner Sun Feb 18 21:25:44 2001 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-980720-1) id VAA01769; Sun, 18 Feb 2001 21:19:15 -0800 (PST) Received: from ns1.psx.net (ns1.psx.net [207.90.223.2]) by honor.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9509917EB1 for ; Sun, 18 Feb 2001 21:19:09 -0800 (PST) Received: from hemicuda (max6-15.max6.hou.infohwy.com [207.90.198.15]) by ns1.psx.net (8.9.3/8.9.2/inradio-1.0) with SMTP id AAA00980 for ; Mon Feb 19 00:27:39 2001 Message-ID: <310201c09a35$420b87d0$0500a8c0@infohwy.com> Reply-To: "hostmaster" From: "hostmaster" To: References: Subject: Another Newbie Question? Date: Sun, 18 Feb 2001 23:31:49 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.3825.400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.3825.400 Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk sorry everyone -- I know you've probably dealt with this 1000 times!! Can someone please tell me an easy way to eliminate a message to a bad address from the queue -- so it won't keep attempting to send it. I've deleted it from the sendmail queue, and it just keeps coming back. Someone else installed and maintains this -- they are out of town -- I'm having server issues of a different type, and really just need to get rid of this one thing tonight. If it isn't too much trouble, maybe I could also know how to set some configuration paramater, counter, flag, etc. that says -- Hey, if the message isn't deliverable, then don't keep attempting to deliver it??? Thanks for your time. Janet ----- Original Message ----- From: "Giz" To: "Bill Polhemus" ; "Roger B.A. Klorese" ; Sent: Sunday, February 18, 2001 5:55 PM Subject: RE: Newbie Question? > Nope. I had this same problem when I set up my lists. Increasing the > maxlength parameter solved the problem. > > -----Original Message----- > From: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM > [mailto:majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM]On Behalf Of Bill Polhemus > Sent: Thursday, February 15, 2001 4:33 PM > To: Roger B.A. Klorese; majordomo-users@GreatCircle.COM > Subject: Re: Newbie Question? > > > I believe that is a parameter effecting how big a DIGEST message can grow > before > it's sent, isn't it? > > "Roger B.A. Klorese" wrote: > > > > On Thu, 15 Feb 2001, Bill Polhemus wrote: > > > Sounds like a restriction of the mail server(s) that you're sending > from/to. > > > > > > bobbrews wrote: > > > > > > > > I am a new user running Majordomo 1.94.5. I cannot seem to send a > > > > message greater than 40K. I have read the faq and the readme, etc and > > > > cannot seem to locate info on size limit or how to change it if > > > > possible. > > > > There is a "maxlength" parameter for each list. It's set by default to > > 40000. you can overrride it in the list config file. > > > > -- > > ROGER B.A. KLORESE > rogerk@QueerNet.ORG > > PO Box 14309 San Francisco, CA > 94114 > > "There is only one real blasphemy -- the refusal of joy!" -- Paul > Rudnick > From majordomo-users-owner Mon Feb 19 05:25:44 2001 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-980720-1) id FAA09206; Mon, 19 Feb 2001 05:22:08 -0800 (PST) Received: from arm.mrball.net (mrball.net [209.85.130.137]) by honor.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2F5D517EB9 for ; Mon, 19 Feb 2001 05:22:02 -0800 (PST) Received: from mrball.net (todd.mrball.net [192.168.18.3]) by arm.mrball.net (8.11.2/8.11.2) with ESMTP id f1JDLnd05770; Mon, 19 Feb 2001 05:21:50 -0800 Message-ID: <3A911DEC.1D32F916@mrball.net> Date: Mon, 19 Feb 2001 05:21:48 -0800 From: Todd Lyons X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (X11; U; Linux 2.2.14-zip i586) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: hostmaster Cc: majordomo-users@GreatCircle.COM Subject: Re: Another Newbie Question? References: <310201c09a35$420b87d0$0500a8c0@infohwy.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk hostmaster wrote: > Can someone please tell me an easy way to eliminate a message to a bad > address from the queue -- so it won't keep attempting to send it. I've > deleted it from the sendmail queue, and it just keeps coming back. Option 1). Go delete the two files that are in /var/spool/mqueue. There are two files, you have to figure out which two. Option 2). Install Webmin. Go into Servers -> Sendmail -> Mail Queue. It will let you see the messages that are queued for delivery and let you delete it. -- Blue skies... Todd | Get a bigger hammer! | Never mind me. I'm speaking out of | | http://www.mrball.net | my /dev/ass anyway. | | http://faq.mrball.net | --Gash Teshome | From majordomo-users-owner Mon Feb 19 05:40:43 2001 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-980720-1) id FAA09284; Mon, 19 Feb 2001 05:27:35 -0800 (PST) Received: from raphael.cd.rep (farlight.demon.co.uk [158.152.123.82]) by honor.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B1E6717EB9 for ; Mon, 19 Feb 2001 05:27:27 -0800 (PST) Received: from darkstar ([192.168.1.54]) by raphael.cd.rep (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id NAA05676 for ; Mon, 19 Feb 2001 13:26:48 GMT Reply-To: From: "Peter Shipley" To: Subject: Posting to lists in HTML Date: Mon, 19 Feb 2001 13:27:30 -0000 Message-ID: <000b01c09a77$b69333e0$3601a8c0@CD.REP> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook CWS, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk I am using : Majordomo 1.94-5 Perl 5.6.0 Exim on a Solaris box I want to send HTML newsletters out. I know there is a big heated debate about sending anything other than plain text out but this is something people have requested. They be wrong but let's try and put it aside as we all know it is not the best way. I have trawled through the archives and idon't seem to find any relevant posts although i know there must be some. So, how do i send html newsletters to majordomo for distribution ? -- peter shipley From majordomo-users-owner Mon Feb 19 11:55:50 2001 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-980720-1) id LAA14285; Mon, 19 Feb 2001 11:49:17 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail.ccpc.net (unknown [12.96.176.9]) by honor.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id EB00517EB1 for ; Mon, 19 Feb 2001 11:49:08 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (steve@localhost) by mail.ccpc.net (8.9.3/8.9.0) with SMTP id OAA08561 for ; Mon, 19 Feb 2001 14:47:51 -0500 Date: Mon, 19 Feb 2001 14:47:51 -0500 (EST) From: Steve Thomas To: majordomo-users@GreatCircle.COM Subject: re:weirdness..... Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk Greetings all and thanks to all that have responded, I found the poblem . It was not Majordomo at all but a User in one list. They are a business and are using an external provider to host their email domain for them. At the same time, each email sent out from the list was being looped back from this person's provider as if it was coming from them themselves. Thus, when I sent one email to a list of 100, each person received upwards to 5 copies of this same email. AND.. Majordomo WAS accespting it, because this person's provider was CC'ng it back out as if it came from me or whomever is on the list. WEIRD! I removed his name from the email list and it all stopped. yeah, he was using Microsoft Exchange.... if that helps... thanks again.... Steve Thomas -------------------------------------------------------------------------- Crystal Clear P.C. Internet Services and More http://www.ccpc.net Voice - 607-397-7374 Email - steve@ccpc.net From majordomo-users-owner Mon Feb 19 19:25:53 2001 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-980720-1) id TAA18619; Mon, 19 Feb 2001 19:08:56 -0800 (PST) Received: from winproxy.neu-alpine.com (unknown [202.118.6.201]) by honor.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5CD1517EBD for ; Mon, 19 Feb 2001 19:08:28 -0800 (PST) Received: from netsoft ([202.118.6.58]) by winproxy.neu-alpine.com with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service Version 5.5.2650.21) id ZY3BF6Q1; Tue, 20 Feb 2001 11:03:11 +0800 Message-ID: <01a001c09aea$be6097c0$5701010a@neualpine.com> From: "huanglp" To: Subject: Hi,everyone Date: Tue, 20 Feb 2001 11:10:57 +0800 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk Hi, i have a question and ask everyone helps me. This morining I setup a new list. When I execute "./etc/aliases", it cannot execute. I want to know why? I use "root" to execute it. The result is "Permission denied". Thanks in advance! From majordomo-users-owner Mon Feb 19 21:25:48 2001 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-980720-1) id VAA19868; Mon, 19 Feb 2001 21:16:32 -0800 (PST) Received: from chinet.chinet.com (unknown [209.219.112.20]) by honor.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E64BA17EB0 for ; Mon, 19 Feb 2001 21:16:26 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (ahk@localhost) by chinet.chinet.com (8.10.2/8.9.3) with ESMTP id f1K5GQ428093 for ; Mon, 19 Feb 2001 23:16:26 -0600 Date: Mon, 19 Feb 2001 23:16:26 -0600 (CST) From: "Adam H. Kerman" To: Subject: Re: Preventing mail loop In-Reply-To: <3A7A3234.66D049C5@netscape.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk On 02/01/01, at 10:06pm -0600, Dan Liston wrote: >Todd Lyons wrote: >>Dan Liston wrote: >>>You could make list-owner another list. As such, you would control >>>X-BeenThere again. >>That seems to be about the only workable solution. >I am a firm believer in KISS. (and I hate reinventing wheels) What's simpler than adding message_headers << END X-Majordomo-Version: $VERSION END and filtering for that? It could also be done with the list name. From majordomo-users-owner Mon Feb 19 21:40:51 2001 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-980720-1) id VAA20040; Mon, 19 Feb 2001 21:36:08 -0800 (PST) Received: from netscape.com (r2d2.netscape.com [205.217.237.47]) by honor.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0ACE717EB0 for ; Mon, 19 Feb 2001 21:36:02 -0800 (PST) Received: from judge.mcom.com (judge.mcom.com [205.217.237.53]) by netscape.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with ESMTP id f1K5a4b24536 for ; Mon, 19 Feb 2001 21:36:04 -0800 (PST) Received: from netscape.com ([205.217.240.51]) by judge.mcom.com (Netscape Messaging Server 4.15) with ESMTP id G91JK602.FJP; Mon, 19 Feb 2001 21:36:06 -0800 Message-ID: <3A920212.FCC8CE7F@netscape.com> Date: Mon, 19 Feb 2001 23:35:14 -0600 From: Dan Liston Organization: iPlanet eCommerce Solutions, A Sun-Netscape Alliance X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.76 [en] (X11; U; Linux 2.2.17-14 i686) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Steve Thomas Cc: majordomo-users@GreatCircle.COM Subject: Re: wierdness.... References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk Make sure your /var and /tmp file systems are not full. Examine your spool directories. What else changed on or off the system but on the network since the time it was working perfectly? Dan Liston Steve Thomas wrote: > > greetings all.... > > quick question.... > > what would cause MD to run fine for many months then out of the blue start > duplicating email messages. Its been running cleanly, then for no reason > each message sent to a "list" is duplicated multiple times. Each > receipient in the list gets the same email message 2, 3, 4, or 5 times. From majordomo-users-owner Mon Feb 19 21:55:55 2001 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-980720-1) id VAA20125; Mon, 19 Feb 2001 21:41:30 -0800 (PST) Received: from netscape.com (c3po.netscape.com [205.217.237.46]) by honor.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1345717EB0 for ; Mon, 19 Feb 2001 21:41:25 -0800 (PST) Received: from judge.mcom.com (judge.mcom.com [205.217.237.53]) by netscape.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with ESMTP id f1K5fSl14744 for ; Mon, 19 Feb 2001 21:41:28 -0800 (PST) Received: from netscape.com ([205.217.240.51]) by judge.mcom.com (Netscape Messaging Server 4.15) with ESMTP id G91JT500.HKD; Mon, 19 Feb 2001 21:41:29 -0800 Message-ID: <3A920355.A99371FF@netscape.com> Date: Mon, 19 Feb 2001 23:40:37 -0600 From: Dan Liston Organization: iPlanet eCommerce Solutions, A Sun-Netscape Alliance X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.76 [en] (X11; U; Linux 2.2.17-14 i686) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: huanglp Cc: majordomo-users@GreatCircle.COM Subject: Re: Hi,everyone References: <01a001c09aea$be6097c0$5701010a@neualpine.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk You are trying to execute a non-executable file. /etc/aliases is a text file that holds the mappings of aliases to mailboxes. The command I think you are intending to run is `newaliases`. Dan Liston huanglp wrote: > > Hi, i have a question and ask everyone helps me. > > This morining I setup a new list. When I execute "./etc/aliases", it cannot > execute. I want to know why? I use "root" to execute it. The result is > "Permission denied". > > Thanks in advance! From majordomo-users-owner Mon Feb 19 22:25:55 2001 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-980720-1) id VAA19990; Mon, 19 Feb 2001 21:32:22 -0800 (PST) Received: from netscape.com (c3po.netscape.com [205.217.237.46]) by honor.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6A09D17EB0 for ; Mon, 19 Feb 2001 21:32:16 -0800 (PST) Received: from judge.mcom.com (judge.mcom.com [205.217.237.53]) by netscape.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with ESMTP id f1K5WKl14220 for ; Mon, 19 Feb 2001 21:32:20 -0800 (PST) Received: from netscape.com ([205.217.240.51]) by judge.mcom.com (Netscape Messaging Server 4.15) with ESMTP id G91JDW03.HKQ; Mon, 19 Feb 2001 21:32:20 -0800 Message-ID: <3A920130.CB3D20B7@netscape.com> Date: Mon, 19 Feb 2001 23:31:28 -0600 From: Dan Liston Organization: iPlanet eCommerce Solutions, A Sun-Netscape Alliance X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.76 [en] (X11; U; Linux 2.2.17-14 i686) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: mzchen Cc: Majordomo-Users@GreatCircle.COM Subject: Re: smtp;550 5.7.1 Relaying denied References: <004f01c099e4$9baeeee0$1ca314d8@mwserver.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk Take a look at the virtusertable, genericstable, and mailertable settings for sendmail. You have to have sendmail working before majordomo can do anything. Dan Liston > mzchen wrote: > > Hi everyone, > > I have Redhat7, sendmail 8.11, majordomo1.94.5 installed. > > I can do the virtual hosting, sendmail to virtual domains before majordomo1.94.5 is installed. > > I have set up a list on only 1 virtual domain after installed majordomo1.94.5. ( this is the only list of all domains/virtual domains at this localhost machine) > > I can do subscribe list, post message to this list, ... etc from this local machine. and > I can send mail to all users at all virtual domains originated from this localhost > box(with Redhat7, sendmail8.11, majordomo1.94.5) (i.e. sendmail to virtual domains internal -> internal is fine) > > However, I can not send mail to all users at all virtual domains originated from external box. (i.e sendmails to virtual domains external to internal is not working) > > and get error message: smtp; 550 5.7.1 users@virtualdomain.com ... Relaying > denied. > > Does anyone know what may be the problem? sendmail problem? or majordomo > problem? ( I can send mail to all virtual domains external to internal w/o majordomo installed). > > Thank you in advance. > > > mzchen > > > > -- -- Dan Liston --------------------- dliston@netscape.com -- -- Netscape Consultant ------------------ (214) 906-1675 -- -- iPlanet E-Commerce Solutions, A Sun Netscape Alliance -- From majordomo-users-owner Mon Feb 19 22:40:49 2001 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-980720-1) id WAA20718; Mon, 19 Feb 2001 22:38:00 -0800 (PST) Received: from winproxy.neu-alpine.com (unknown [202.118.6.201]) by honor.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 52B2117EB0 for ; Mon, 19 Feb 2001 22:37:48 -0800 (PST) Received: from netsoft ([202.118.6.58]) by winproxy.neu-alpine.com with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service Version 5.5.2650.21) id ZY3BF8MK; Tue, 20 Feb 2001 14:32:36 +0800 Message-ID: <002601c09b07$fb2b5010$5701010a@neualpine.com> From: "huanglp" To: "Dan Liston" Cc: References: <01a001c09aea$be6097c0$5701010a@neualpine.com> <3A920355.A99371FF@netscape.com> Subject: Re: Hi,everyone Date: Tue, 20 Feb 2001 14:40:14 +0800 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk Thanks. I execute newaliases, but the result is: hash map "Alias0 : unsafe map file /etc/aliases.db: Executable files not allowed WARNING: cannot open alias database /etc/aliases Cannot create database for alias file /etc/aliases Now how can i repaire the sendmail? Thanks in advance! ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ~~ ??? ??????? ??:(8624)23783000-62012 ??:(8624)23782266 ??:huanglp@neu-alpine.com ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dan Liston" To: "huanglp" Cc: Sent: Tuesday, February 20, 2001 1:40 PM Subject: Re: Hi,everyone > You are trying to execute a non-executable file. /etc/aliases is a text file > that holds the mappings of aliases to mailboxes. The command I think you are > intending to run is `newaliases`. > > Dan Liston > > huanglp wrote: > > > > Hi, i have a question and ask everyone helps me. > > > > This morining I setup a new list. When I execute "./etc/aliases", it cannot > > execute. I want to know why? I use "root" to execute it. The result is > > "Permission denied". > > > > Thanks in advance! From majordomo-users-owner Mon Feb 19 22:56:26 2001 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-980720-1) id VAA19939; Mon, 19 Feb 2001 21:27:29 -0800 (PST) Received: from netscape.com (r2d2.netscape.com [205.217.237.47]) by honor.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id AAB7817EB0 for ; Mon, 19 Feb 2001 21:27:23 -0800 (PST) Received: from judge.mcom.com (judge.mcom.com [205.217.237.53]) by netscape.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with ESMTP id f1K5RQb24142 for ; Mon, 19 Feb 2001 21:27:26 -0800 (PST) Received: from netscape.com ([205.217.240.51]) by judge.mcom.com (Netscape Messaging Server 4.15) with ESMTP id G91J5R02.OL8; Mon, 19 Feb 2001 21:27:27 -0800 Message-ID: <3A92000B.ED185C66@netscape.com> Date: Mon, 19 Feb 2001 23:26:35 -0600 From: Dan Liston Organization: iPlanet eCommerce Solutions, A Sun-Netscape Alliance X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.76 [en] (X11; U; Linux 2.2.17-14 i686) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "Steven D. Porter" Cc: majordomo-users@GreatCircle.COM Subject: Re: Looping Problem References: <005a01c099d8$84ea30e0$010aa8c0@naisp.net> <3A904970.14B9B3F@netscape.com> <000701c09a2a$596ea020$010aa8c0@naisp.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk The vacation auto-responder, or procmail might be able to solve your problem. Procmail could add a custom header to the auto-reply, which majordomo would then filter for. Check out the "man procmailex" for example filters, rules, and scripts. Dan Liston "Steven D. Porter" wrote: > > >I think your messaging architecture needs to be re-examined, and I doubt > changing $global_anything in majordomo.cf will help > >your situation. You are using wrapper, but you are not "using" majordomo. > The auto-reply functionality of request-answer > >only uses the majordomo_dont_reply in majordomo.cf (but could be hacked to > use only it's own). This would probably be the > >best way to go considering the way you have implemented your mail system. > Request-answer could be greatly customized, > >including the ability to refuse sending a message to a reply-to address of > itself (sales@blah.com). > > Thanks Dan, > > Unfortunately, I've tried that already, but it doesn't seem to work. This > is the line as modified in my majordomo.cf: > > $majordomo_dont_reply = > '(sales|support|billing|mailer-daemon|uucp|listserv|majordomo|listproc)\@'; > > Yet mail sent from sales@blah.com with a reply-to address of sales@blah.com > still result in the massive looping. > > Until the bloody spammers started this trick, using majordomo's autoreply > function worked perfectly for my needs. I'm just a small ISP, that feels > that a reply when customers send something to support, at least gives them > some basic info to work with until we are able to respond manually. It also > lets them know that the message was at least received. I'm not aware of any > other autoresponders such as majordomo, that would do the same thing. > Suggestions would be welcome, of course :p > > Thanks again, > > - Steve - -- -- Dan Liston --------------------- dliston@netscape.com -- -- Netscape Consultant ------------------ (214) 906-1675 -- -- iPlanet E-Commerce Solutions, A Sun Netscape Alliance -- From majordomo-users-owner Tue Feb 20 02:36:20 2001 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-980720-1) id CAA24424; Tue, 20 Feb 2001 02:08:57 -0800 (PST) Received: from freaky2000.dyndns.org (9dyn139.breda.casema.net [195.96.116.139]) by honor.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id ADBF517E8C for ; Tue, 20 Feb 2001 02:08:49 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (freaky@localhost) by freaky2000.dyndns.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA01390 for ; Tue, 20 Feb 2001 11:09:29 +0100 Date: Tue, 20 Feb 2001 11:09:24 +0100 (CET) From: Freaked Personality X-Sender: freaky@linux.paddo.trip To: majordomo-users@greatcircle.com Subject: Err test Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk Why does everything I sent to this list (majordomo-users@greatcircle.com) dissapear into oblivion? No error msgs, no replies, no anything... From majordomo-users-owner Tue Feb 20 03:57:26 2001 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-980720-1) id DAA27115; Tue, 20 Feb 2001 03:34:02 -0800 (PST) Received: from oxmail.ox.ac.uk (oxmail3.ox.ac.uk [129.67.1.180]) by honor.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 924F217E8C for ; Tue, 20 Feb 2001 03:33:51 -0800 (PST) Received: from gwmail.jr2.ox.ac.uk ([163.1.212.1] helo=ulna.jr2.ox.ac.uk) by oxmail.ox.ac.uk with smtp (Exim 3.12 #1) id 14VB3K-0004YY-00 for Majordomo-Users@GreatCircle.COM; Tue, 20 Feb 2001 11:33:54 +0000 Received: from Medicine-Message_Server by ulna.jr2.ox.ac.uk with Novell_GroupWise; Tue, 20 Feb 2001 11:33:38 +0000 Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise Internet Agent 5.5.4.1 Date: Tue, 20 Feb 2001 11:33:33 +0000 From: "Justin Broad" To: Subject: 2 list owners Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="=_94CF3102.96F790E9" Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk --=_94CF3102.96F790E9 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi, I'm new to Linux/Unix so forgive my ignorance. I have managed to install = majordomo 1.94.5 on to Linux redhat 6.0. Every thing seems to be running = fine, but I would like to set up a list with more than one owner. I have = set up the list and aliases as shown in the readme file. owner-listname::include:/usr/local/majordomo/lists/listname-owner listname-owner: owner-listname owner-owner-listname: owner-majordomo Trouble is that this does not seem to work, I send requests to the list = but nothing happens. Any help would be appreciated Jb Justin.broad@imsu.ox.ac.uk --=_94CF3102.96F790E9 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Description: HTML
Hi,
 
I'm new to Linux/Unix so forgive my ignorance. I have = managed=20 to install majordomo 1.94.5 on to Linux redhat 6.0.  Every thing = seems to=20 be running fine, but I would like to set up a list with more than one = owner. I=20 have set up the list and aliases as shown in the readme file.
 
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--=_94CF3102.96F790E9-- From majordomo-users-owner Tue Feb 20 04:20:16 2001 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-980720-1) id EAA27558; Tue, 20 Feb 2001 04:07:28 -0800 (PST) Received: from gate.opf.wdr.com (gate.opf.ubswarburg.com [195.141.195.6]) by honor.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 926CE17E8C for ; Tue, 20 Feb 2001 04:07:15 -0800 (PST) Received: (from smap@localhost) by gate.opf.wdr.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) id NAA10469 for ; Tue, 20 Feb 2001 13:07:18 +0100 (MET) Received: from (eight.ubswarburg.com [192.168.0.3]) by gate via smap (V2.0) id xma009433; Tue, 20 Feb 2001 13:06:38 +0100 Received: from op1p13pos.opf.swissbank.com (virscan1 [192.168.0.3]) by virscan1.swissbank.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id NAA13031 for ; Tue, 20 Feb 2001 13:02:57 +0100 (MET) Received: from ubsw.com (wchd0115.opf.swissbank.com [165.222.200.171]) by op1p13pos.opf.swissbank.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id NAA20286 for ; Tue, 20 Feb 2001 13:06:37 +0100 (MET) Message-ID: <3A925DCD.F737563A@ubsw.com> Date: Tue, 20 Feb 2001 13:06:37 +0100 From: Marco Pfeuti Organization: Reliant Systems AG X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [de] (WinNT; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: majordomo-users@greatcircle.com Subject: Re: Err test References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-WDR-Disclaimer: Version $Revision: 1.13 $ Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk other question: why is the default reply addr. not majordomo-users@greatcircle.com has this a deep'er reason? cheers mpf Freaked Personality schrieb: > > Why does everything I sent to this list > (majordomo-users@greatcircle.com) dissapear into oblivion? No error msgs, > no replies, no anything... Visit our website at http://www.ubswarburg.com This message contains confidential information and is intended only for the individual named. If you are not the named addressee you should not disseminate, distribute or copy this e-mail. Please notify the sender immediately by e-mail if you have received this e-mail by mistake and delete this e-mail from your system. E-mail transmission cannot be guaranteed to be secure or error-free as information could be intercepted, corrupted, lost, destroyed, arrive late or incomplete, or contain viruses. The sender therefore does not accept liability for any errors or omissions in the contents of this message which arise as a result of e-mail transmission. If verification is required please request a hard-copy version. This message is provided for informational purposes and should not be construed as a solicitation or offer to buy or sell any securities or related financial instruments. From majordomo-users-owner Tue Feb 20 05:46:03 2001 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-980720-1) id FAA28305; Tue, 20 Feb 2001 05:25:29 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail.bestdist.com (mail.bestdist.com [216.77.43.67]) by honor.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2F76A17E8C for ; Tue, 20 Feb 2001 05:25:23 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (IDENT:sporter@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.bestdist.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id IAA30908; Tue, 20 Feb 2001 08:25:14 -0500 Date: Tue, 20 Feb 2001 08:25:14 -0500 (EST) From: Sean Porterfield To: Freaked Personality Cc: majordomo-users@GreatCircle.COM Subject: Re: Err test In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk Probably because of administrivia. If you're posting examples/commands, try starting your message with -- or end on a line by itself to stop majordomo from parsing for commands. Words like zubscribe when properly spelled will dump your message. On Tue, 20 Feb 2001, Freaked Personality wrote: > Why does everything I sent to this list > (majordomo-users@greatcircle.com) dissapear into oblivion? No error msgs, > no replies, no anything... From majordomo-users-owner Tue Feb 20 06:46:01 2001 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-980720-1) id GAA29054; Tue, 20 Feb 2001 06:36:30 -0800 (PST) Received: from garnet.tc.umn.edu (garnet.tc.umn.edu [160.94.218.249]) by honor.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B5B6217E8C for ; Tue, 20 Feb 2001 06:36:24 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost by garnet.tc.umn.edu with ESMTP for majordomo-users@GreatCircle.COM; Tue, 20 Feb 2001 08:36:29 -0600 Date: Tue, 20 Feb 2001 08:36:29 -0600 (CST) From: mjn X-Sender: mjn@garnet.tc.umn.edu To: majordomo-users@GreatCircle.COM Subject: Re: Preventing mail loop In-Reply-To: Message-Id: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk As of Feb 19, 2001, Adam H. Kerman can be held liable for saying: > What's simpler than adding > > message_headers << END > X-Majordomo-Version: $VERSION > END > > and filtering for that? It could also be done with the list name. And something like this is easy to make a default value for your *.config files too, just mod config_parse.pl to include it... ____________________________ Mike Neuharth ADCS Technology Specialist http://www.umn.edu/adcs E-Mail : mjn@umn.edu Page Mail : 6126486512@page.metrocall.com http://supermonkeycollider.dyndns.org/ ____________________________ From majordomo-users-owner Tue Feb 20 07:16:11 2001 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-980720-1) id GAA29351; Tue, 20 Feb 2001 06:59:45 -0800 (PST) Received: from proxy1.addr.com (unknown [209.249.147.248]) by honor.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id DB87617E8C for ; Tue, 20 Feb 2001 06:59:39 -0800 (PST) Received: from adsl-80-105-237.jax.bellsouth.net (adsl-80-105-237.jax.bellsouth.net [65.80.105.237]) by proxy1.addr.com (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id GAA39326 for ; Tue, 20 Feb 2001 06:57:47 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from rdcarson@OTnow.com) Date: Tue, 20 Feb 2001 09:57:11 -0500 From: Ron Carson X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.49) UNREG / CD5BF9353B3B7091 X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <618030029.20010220095711@OTnow.com> To: majordomo-users Subject: What is the meaning of this message? Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk When I sent a message to my list this AM, I received the following message: ABORT shlock: '/usr/tmp' does not exist From majordomo-users-owner Tue Feb 20 07:31:08 2001 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-980720-1) id GAA29258; Tue, 20 Feb 2001 06:55:50 -0800 (PST) Received: from freaky2000.dyndns.org (9dyn139.breda.casema.net [195.96.116.139]) by honor.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B2A2817E8C for ; Tue, 20 Feb 2001 06:55:41 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (freaky@localhost) by freaky2000.dyndns.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA02780 for ; Tue, 20 Feb 2001 15:56:21 +0100 Date: Tue, 20 Feb 2001 15:56:21 +0100 (CET) From: Freaked Personality X-Sender: freaky@linux.paddo.trip To: majordomo-users@greatcircle.com Subject: Header info gets processed as commands Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk - -- end Hey there, I have a problem i can't mail it since you catch majordomo commands in normal mailinglist mails which doesn't make any sense to me on the mailing lists help mail list since ppl will have questions about them. please lemme know when I CAN send my message\ kind regards, Ferry van Steen From majordomo-users-owner Tue Feb 20 07:46:07 2001 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-980720-1) id HAA29643; Tue, 20 Feb 2001 07:22:57 -0800 (PST) Received: from arm.mrball.net (mrball.net [209.85.130.137]) by honor.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id DF1C017E8C for ; Tue, 20 Feb 2001 07:22:51 -0800 (PST) Received: from mrball.net (todd.mrball.net [192.168.18.3]) by arm.mrball.net (8.11.2/8.11.2) with ESMTP id f1KFMld08969; Tue, 20 Feb 2001 07:22:51 -0800 Message-ID: <3A928BC7.7A952667@mrball.net> Date: Tue, 20 Feb 2001 07:22:47 -0800 From: Todd Lyons X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (X11; U; Linux 2.2.14-zip i586) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "Adam H. Kerman" Cc: majordomo-users@GreatCircle.COM Subject: Re: Preventing mail loop References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk "Adam H. Kerman" wrote: > What's simpler than adding > message_headers << END > X-Majordomo-Version: $VERSION > END > and filtering for that? It could also be done with the list name. Does this header get added in Bounce messages? Because that's what was causing the mail-loop. One of the *admin* addresses was bouncing, before it ever got to majordomo. -- Blue skies... Todd | Get a bigger hammer! | Never mind me. I'm speaking out of | | http://www.mrball.net | my /dev/ass anyway. | | http://faq.mrball.net | --Gash Teshome | From majordomo-users-owner Tue Feb 20 08:01:54 2001 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-980720-1) id GAA29334; Tue, 20 Feb 2001 06:57:58 -0800 (PST) Received: from freaky2000.dyndns.org (9dyn139.breda.casema.net [195.96.116.139]) by honor.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0090B17E8C for ; Tue, 20 Feb 2001 06:57:50 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (freaky@localhost) by freaky2000.dyndns.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA02791; Tue, 20 Feb 2001 15:58:26 +0100 Date: Tue, 20 Feb 2001 15:58:26 +0100 (CET) From: Freaked Personality X-Sender: freaky@linux.paddo.trip To: David Wilkinson Cc: majordomo-users@GreatCircle.COM Subject: Re: Err test In-Reply-To: <000001c09b4d$d243a710$5b5da4d0@avatar> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk Well usually I like answers to my problems :-) it's on majordomo but i can't use the words w h i c h and w h o appearantly nor s u b s c r i b e and stuff which doesn't make sense on a mailing list that is to stupport the mailing list software but ok... hope this will arrive though gonna try to forward the email AGAIN (time 6 or so) kind regards, Ferry van Steen On Tue, 20 Feb 2001, David Wilkinson wrote: > Maybe they didn't require a response? I got your message> > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Freaked Personality" > To: > Sent: Tuesday, February 20, 2001 2:09 AM > Subject: Err test > > > > Why does everything I sent to this list > > (majordomo-users@greatcircle.com) dissapear into oblivion? No error msgs, > > no replies, no anything... > > > > > > > > > From majordomo-users-owner Tue Feb 20 08:16:09 2001 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-980720-1) id HAA29442; Tue, 20 Feb 2001 07:04:16 -0800 (PST) Received: from garnet.tc.umn.edu (garnet.tc.umn.edu [160.94.218.249]) by honor.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C2CB617E8C for ; Tue, 20 Feb 2001 07:04:10 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost by garnet.tc.umn.edu with ESMTP for majordomo-users@greatcircle.com; Tue, 20 Feb 2001 09:03:47 -0600 Date: Tue, 20 Feb 2001 09:03:47 -0600 (CST) From: mjn X-Sender: mjn@garnet.tc.umn.edu To: majordomo-users@GreatCircle.COM Subject: Question about resend... Message-Id: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk We have started using a virus scanner on our email systems and its pretty gosh darn cool. The part that is not cool is that the virus scanner gets ahold of emails to the majordomo system before those messages hit resend. This is ok except for one thing. The virus scanner includes a footer which says something about it being scanned for viruses. Then the message hits majordomo and the resend and the regular footer is attached. So I get the virus footer before the message footer. This is bad because the message footer usually contains information about what the list is and who to contact with problems. What I'd like to do is modify resend to look for this footer in the message body, delete if it finds it, and repaste it at the bottom after the normal footer. Or merely insert the real footer before the virus footer... Anyone have ideas/suggestions/other thoughts? ____________________________ Mike Neuharth ADCS Technology Specialist http://www.umn.edu/adcs E-Mail : mjn@umn.edu Page Mail : 6126486512@page.metrocall.com http://supermonkeycollider.dyndns.org/ ____________________________ From majordomo-users-owner Tue Feb 20 08:38:37 2001 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-980720-1) id HAA29732; Tue, 20 Feb 2001 07:31:00 -0800 (PST) Received: from arm.mrball.net (mrball.net [209.85.130.137]) by honor.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E1F4517E8C for ; Tue, 20 Feb 2001 07:30:52 -0800 (PST) Received: from mrball.net (todd.mrball.net [192.168.18.3]) by arm.mrball.net (8.11.2/8.11.2) with ESMTP id f1KFUFd08999; Tue, 20 Feb 2001 07:30:15 -0800 Message-ID: <3A928D87.D6EE846A@mrball.net> Date: Tue, 20 Feb 2001 07:30:15 -0800 From: Todd Lyons X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (X11; U; Linux 2.2.14-zip i586) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Marco Pfeuti , Majordomo Users Subject: Re: Err test References: <3A925DCD.F737563A@ubsw.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk Marco Pfeuti wrote: > > other question: why is the default reply addr. not > majordomo-users@greatcircle.com > has this a deep'er reason? http://faq.mrball.net/#replyto > This message contains confidential information and is intended only > for the individual named. If you are not the named addressee you > should not disseminate, distribute or copy this e-mail. Please > notify the sender immediately by e-mail if you have received this > e-mail by mistake and delete this e-mail from your system. > > E-mail transmission cannot be guaranteed to be secure or error-free > as information could be intercepted, corrupted, lost, destroyed, > arrive late or incomplete, or contain viruses. The sender therefore > does not accept liability for any errors or omissions in the contents > of this message which arise as a result of e-mail transmission. If > verification is required please request a hard-copy version. This > message is provided for informational purposes and should not be > construed as a solicitation or offer to buy or sell any securities or > related financial instruments. What's all this for? -- Blue skies... Todd | Get a bigger hammer! | Never mind me. I'm speaking out of | | http://www.mrball.net | my /dev/ass anyway. | | http://faq.mrball.net | --Gash Teshome | From majordomo-users-owner Tue Feb 20 08:49:14 2001 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-980720-1) id HAA29447; Tue, 20 Feb 2001 07:04:41 -0800 (PST) Received: from freaky2000.dyndns.org (9dyn139.breda.casema.net [195.96.116.139]) by honor.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id BEDE917E8C for ; Tue, 20 Feb 2001 07:04:28 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (freaky@localhost) by freaky2000.dyndns.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id QAA02823; Tue, 20 Feb 2001 16:04:16 +0100 Date: Tue, 20 Feb 2001 16:04:15 +0100 (CET) From: Freaked Personality X-Sender: freaky@linux.paddo.trip To: Marco Pfeuti Cc: majordomo-users@greatcircle.com Subject: Re: Err test In-Reply-To: <3A925DCD.F737563A@ubsw.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk In the docs it says that use of the reply-to causes problems with some mta's. the other reason is that you can now use reply to email the one that send the msg and the reply-group (which most mta's have, my linux pine asks who though) to mail both kind regards, ferry van steen On Tue, 20 Feb 2001, Marco Pfeuti wrote: > other question: why is the default reply addr. not > majordomo-users@greatcircle.com > has this a deep'er reason? > > cheers > mpf > > Freaked Personality schrieb: > > > > Why does everything I sent to this list > > (majordomo-users@greatcircle.com) dissapear into oblivion? No error msgs, > > no replies, no anything... > > Visit our website at http://www.ubswarburg.com > > This message contains confidential information and is intended only > for the individual named. If you are not the named addressee you > should not disseminate, distribute or copy this e-mail. Please > notify the sender immediately by e-mail if you have received this > e-mail by mistake and delete this e-mail from your system. > > E-mail transmission cannot be guaranteed to be secure or error-free > as information could be intercepted, corrupted, lost, destroyed, > arrive late or incomplete, or contain viruses. The sender therefore > does not accept liability for any errors or omissions in the contents > of this message which arise as a result of e-mail transmission. If > verification is required please request a hard-copy version. This > message is provided for informational purposes and should not be > construed as a solicitation or offer to buy or sell any securities or > related financial instruments. > > From majordomo-users-owner Tue Feb 20 11:01:37 2001 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-980720-1) id JAA01304; Tue, 20 Feb 2001 09:41:11 -0800 (PST) Received: from chinet.chinet.com (unknown [209.219.112.20]) by honor.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B18C017E8C for ; Tue, 20 Feb 2001 09:41:05 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (ahk@localhost) by chinet.chinet.com (8.10.2/8.9.3) with ESMTP id f1KHfA316872 for ; Tue, 20 Feb 2001 11:41:10 -0600 Date: Tue, 20 Feb 2001 11:41:10 -0600 (CST) From: "Adam H. Kerman" To: Subject: Re: Preventing mail loop In-Reply-To: <3A928BC7.7A952667@mrball.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk On 02/20/01, at 7:22am -0800, Todd Lyons wrote: >"Adam H. Kerman" wrote: >>What's simpler than adding >>message_headers << END >>X-Majordomo-Version: $VERSION >>END >>and filtering for that? It could also be done with the list name. >Does this header get added in Bounce messages? Because that's what was >causing the mail-loop. One of the *admin* addresses was bouncing, >before it ever got to majordomo. If you filter for "owner-[listname]", you'll prevent bounced administrative messages from being posted. From majordomo-users-owner Tue Feb 20 11:24:52 2001 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-980720-1) id JAA01448; Tue, 20 Feb 2001 09:53:53 -0800 (PST) Received: from kang.tinet.ie (mail1.tinet.ie [159.134.237.19]) by honor.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A08E817E8C for ; Tue, 20 Feb 2001 09:53:45 -0800 (PST) Received: from [159.134.199.190] (helo=webbusters01.webbusters.com) by kang.tinet.ie with esmtp (Exim 2.05 #23) id 14VGwd-0006mw-00 for majordomo-users@greatcircle.com; Tue, 20 Feb 2001 17:53:12 +0000 Received: by webbusters with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) id ; Tue, 20 Feb 2001 17:48:58 -0000 Message-ID: <22B6B3E839F4D311AAFB00C00D0117E1175EE7@webbusters> From: Kevin Healy To: majordomo-users@greatcircle.com Subject: Bounce Code Date: Tue, 20 Feb 2001 17:48:57 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk Hi Can anyone tell me why when I try to post to a list I sometimes (I stress sometimes) get this message: Subject: BOUNCE mylist@mydomain.com: Invalid 'Approved:' header Non-member submission from [mylist-mailing@mydomain.com] The posting fails and I have to try again. I am the owner of the list and I have set the "restrict post" setting. This list is configured in exactly the same way as my other lists - the thing that bothers me is that it works for a while and then it doesnt......help please Thanks in advance Kevin Healy From majordomo-users-owner Tue Feb 20 11:30:10 2001 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-980720-1) id JAA01104; Tue, 20 Feb 2001 09:25:36 -0800 (PST) Received: from netscape.com (c3po.netscape.com [205.217.237.46]) by honor.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id F176117E8C for ; Tue, 20 Feb 2001 09:25:17 -0800 (PST) Received: from judge.mcom.com (judge.mcom.com [205.217.237.53]) by netscape.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with ESMTP id f1KHPIx09088 for ; Tue, 20 Feb 2001 09:25:19 -0800 (PST) Received: from netscape.com ([205.217.240.50]) by judge.mcom.com (Netscape Messaging Server 4.15) with ESMTP id G92GE601.DPN; Tue, 20 Feb 2001 09:25:18 -0800 Message-ID: <3A92A84A.4B9B7C7D@netscape.com> Date: Tue, 20 Feb 2001 11:24:26 -0600 From: Dan Liston Organization: iPlanet eCommerce Solutions, A Sun-Netscape Alliance X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.76 [en] (X11; U; Linux 2.2.17-14 i686) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Marco Pfeuti Cc: majordomo-users@GreatCircle.COM Subject: Re: Err test References: <3A925DCD.F737563A@ubsw.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk Perhaps the kind folks at greatcircle want to allow list users the freedom to choose whether a reply can be sent privately rather than forcing all replies back into the list. I agree with this philosophy. Dan Liston Marco Pfeuti wrote: > > other question: why is the default reply addr. not > majordomo-users@greatcircle.com > has this a deep'er reason? > > cheers > mpf > > Freaked Personality schrieb: > > > > Why does everything I sent to this list > > (majordomo-users@greatcircle.com) dissapear into oblivion? No error msgs, > > no replies, no anything... > From majordomo-users-owner Tue Feb 20 11:43:52 2001 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-980720-1) id JAA01326; Tue, 20 Feb 2001 09:41:37 -0800 (PST) Received: from netscape.com (r2d2.netscape.com [205.217.237.47]) by honor.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3EDC317E8C for ; Tue, 20 Feb 2001 09:41:26 -0800 (PST) Received: from judge.mcom.com (judge.mcom.com [205.217.237.53]) by netscape.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with ESMTP id f1KHfH121092 for ; Tue, 20 Feb 2001 09:41:20 -0800 (PST) Received: from netscape.com ([205.217.240.50]) by judge.mcom.com (Netscape Messaging Server 4.15) with ESMTP id G92H4S01.VPJ; Tue, 20 Feb 2001 09:41:16 -0800 Message-ID: <3A92AC08.BCA4F3E6@netscape.com> Date: Tue, 20 Feb 2001 11:40:24 -0600 From: Dan Liston Organization: iPlanet eCommerce Solutions, A Sun-Netscape Alliance X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.76 [en] (X11; U; Linux 2.2.17-14 i686) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "Adam H. Kerman" Cc: majordomo-users@GreatCircle.COM Subject: Re: Preventing mail loop References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk Something similar was already working for the list, but a method was needed for the list-owner address as well as the list address. The only way to get majordomo filtering to do anything to that address was to make it itself a majordomo list. Dan Liston "Adam H. Kerman" wrote: > > On 02/01/01, at 10:06pm -0600, Dan Liston wrote: > >Todd Lyons wrote: > >>Dan Liston wrote: > > >>>You could make list-owner another list. As such, you would control > >>>X-BeenThere again. > > >>That seems to be about the only workable solution. > > >I am a firm believer in KISS. (and I hate reinventing wheels) > > What's simpler than adding > > message_headers << END > X-Majordomo-Version: $VERSION > END > > and filtering for that? It could also be done with the list name. From majordomo-users-owner Tue Feb 20 12:07:00 2001 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-980720-1) id JAA01582; Tue, 20 Feb 2001 09:59:31 -0800 (PST) Received: from netscape.com (r2d2.netscape.com [205.217.237.47]) by honor.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 13E9C17E8C for ; Tue, 20 Feb 2001 09:59:21 -0800 (PST) Received: from judge.mcom.com (judge.mcom.com [205.217.237.53]) by netscape.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with ESMTP id f1KHxO124703 for ; Tue, 20 Feb 2001 09:59:24 -0800 (PST) Received: from netscape.com ([205.217.240.50]) by judge.mcom.com (Netscape Messaging Server 4.15) with ESMTP id G92HYY02.9P0; Tue, 20 Feb 2001 09:59:22 -0800 Message-ID: <3A92B046.72B26A76@netscape.com> Date: Tue, 20 Feb 2001 11:58:30 -0600 From: Dan Liston Organization: iPlanet eCommerce Solutions, A Sun-Netscape Alliance X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.76 [en] (X11; U; Linux 2.2.17-14 i686) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Ron Carson Cc: majordomo-users Subject: Re: What is the meaning of this message? References: <618030029.20010220095711@OTnow.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk It means majordomo wanted to create a lock file in /usr/tmp directory, but /usr/tmp is not a directory or does not exist. Check your file system, and check your majordomo.cf $TMPDIR setting. Dan Liston Ron Carson wrote: > > When I sent a message to my list this AM, I received the following message: > > ABORT shlock: '/usr/tmp' does not exist From majordomo-users-owner Tue Feb 20 12:08:53 2001 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-980720-1) id KAA01705; Tue, 20 Feb 2001 10:06:07 -0800 (PST) Received: from netscape.com (r2d2.netscape.com [205.217.237.47]) by honor.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6526017E8C for ; Tue, 20 Feb 2001 10:05:54 -0800 (PST) Received: from judge.mcom.com (judge.mcom.com [205.217.237.53]) by netscape.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with ESMTP id f1KI5m127103 for ; Tue, 20 Feb 2001 10:05:48 -0800 (PST) Received: from netscape.com ([205.217.240.50]) by judge.mcom.com (Netscape Messaging Server 4.15) with ESMTP id G92I9O01.TR0; Tue, 20 Feb 2001 10:05:48 -0800 Message-ID: <3A92B1C7.45467E13@netscape.com> Date: Tue, 20 Feb 2001 12:04:55 -0600 From: Dan Liston Organization: iPlanet eCommerce Solutions, A Sun-Netscape Alliance X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.76 [en] (X11; U; Linux 2.2.17-14 i686) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: mjn Cc: majordomo-users@GreatCircle.COM Subject: Re: Preventing mail loop References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk mjn wrote: > > As of Feb 19, 2001, Adam H. Kerman can be held liable for saying: > > > What's simpler than adding > > > > message_headers << END > > X-Majordomo-Version: $VERSION > > END > > > > and filtering for that? It could also be done with the list name. > > And something like this is easy to make a default value for your *.config > files too, just mod config_parse.pl to include it... > Don't forget to add /^X-Majordomo-Version:/i to your taboo_headers. Dan Liston From majordomo-users-owner Tue Feb 20 12:18:36 2001 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-980720-1) id KAA01666; Tue, 20 Feb 2001 10:01:38 -0800 (PST) Received: from netscape.com (r2d2.netscape.com [205.217.237.47]) by honor.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A44CD17E8C for ; Tue, 20 Feb 2001 10:01:32 -0800 (PST) Received: from judge.mcom.com (judge.mcom.com [205.217.237.53]) by netscape.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with ESMTP id f1KI1a125389 for ; Tue, 20 Feb 2001 10:01:36 -0800 (PST) Received: from netscape.com ([205.217.240.50]) by judge.mcom.com (Netscape Messaging Server 4.15) with ESMTP id G92I2O00.IQM; Tue, 20 Feb 2001 10:01:36 -0800 Message-ID: <3A92B0CB.8E07414F@netscape.com> Date: Tue, 20 Feb 2001 12:00:43 -0600 From: Dan Liston Organization: iPlanet eCommerce Solutions, A Sun-Netscape Alliance X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.76 [en] (X11; U; Linux 2.2.17-14 i686) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Freaked Personality Cc: majordomo-users@GreatCircle.COM Subject: Re: Header info gets processed as commands References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk As you learn more about majordomo and it's inner workings, you will begin to understand why this is. Please ask your question. Dan Liston Freaked Personality wrote: > > - > -- > end > > Hey there, > > I have a problem > i can't mail it since you catch majordomo commands in normal mailinglist > mails which doesn't make any sense to me on the mailing lists help mail > list since ppl will have questions about them. > > please lemme know when I CAN send my message\ > > kind regards, > > Ferry van Steen From majordomo-users-owner Tue Feb 20 12:22:44 2001 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-980720-1) id KAA02066; Tue, 20 Feb 2001 10:35:38 -0800 (PST) Received: from freaky2000.dyndns.org (9dyn139.breda.casema.net [195.96.116.139]) by honor.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A588B17E8C for ; Tue, 20 Feb 2001 10:35:23 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (freaky@localhost) by freaky2000.dyndns.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id TAA03949; Tue, 20 Feb 2001 19:35:20 +0100 Date: Tue, 20 Feb 2001 19:35:19 +0100 (CET) From: Freaked Personality X-Sender: freaky@linux.paddo.trip To: Dan Liston Cc: majordomo-users@GreatCircle.COM Subject: Re: Header info gets processed as commands In-Reply-To: <3A92B0CB.8E07414F@netscape.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk Dan I'd surely would like, but I've tried that 6 times, with 3 different mails none of which came thru :-) The problem I have is that when I mail with MS Outlook Express (haven't tried much others yet) it will try to process some header info (ie charset stuff and others) as commands and give me unknown command errors if you think you might be able to help me i can email to you directly kind regards, Ferry van Steen On Tue, 20 Feb 2001, Dan Liston wrote: > As you learn more about majordomo and it's inner workings, you will begin > to understand why this is. Please ask your question. > > Dan Liston > > Freaked Personality wrote: > > > > - > > -- > > end > > > > Hey there, > > > > I have a problem > > i can't mail it since you catch majordomo commands in normal mailinglist > > mails which doesn't make any sense to me on the mailing lists help mail > > list since ppl will have questions about them. > > > > please lemme know when I CAN send my message\ > > > > kind regards, > > > > Ferry van Steen > From majordomo-users-owner Tue Feb 20 12:38:56 2001 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-980720-1) id JAA01194; Tue, 20 Feb 2001 09:30:22 -0800 (PST) Received: from netscape.com (r2d2.netscape.com [205.217.237.47]) by honor.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id CE57F17E8C for ; Tue, 20 Feb 2001 09:30:10 -0800 (PST) Received: from judge.mcom.com (judge.mcom.com [205.217.237.53]) by netscape.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with ESMTP id f1KHUC119187 for ; Tue, 20 Feb 2001 09:30:12 -0800 (PST) Received: from netscape.com ([205.217.240.50]) by judge.mcom.com (Netscape Messaging Server 4.15) with ESMTP id G92GMB00.ZNY; Tue, 20 Feb 2001 09:30:11 -0800 Message-ID: <3A92A96F.2295B25E@netscape.com> Date: Tue, 20 Feb 2001 11:29:19 -0600 From: Dan Liston Organization: iPlanet eCommerce Solutions, A Sun-Netscape Alliance X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.76 [en] (X11; U; Linux 2.2.17-14 i686) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Justin Broad Cc: Majordomo-Users@GreatCircle.COM Subject: Re: 2 list owners References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk You must be new to mailing lists in general too. Your message being in HTML, the text was too small to read on my display. PLEASE use plain text when you compose messages to mailing lists to ensure all users can see/read your comments regardless of OS or MUA. Let me answer your question with a question. What happens if you change the :include: RHS of the owner-listname alias to just an email address? Does it start working? If it does, you have a sendmail permissions issue. Dan Liston > Justin Broad wrote: > > Hi, > > I'm new to Linux/Unix so forgive my ignorance. I have managed to install majordomo 1.94.5 on to Linux redhat 6.0. Every thing seems to be running fine, but I would like to set up a list with more than one owner. I have set up the list and aliases as shown in the readme file. > > owner-listname::include:/usr/local/majordomo/lists/listname-owner > listname-owner: owner-listname > owner-owner-listname: owner-majordomo > > Trouble is that this does not seem to work, I send requests to the list but nothing happens. > From majordomo-users-owner Tue Feb 20 12:39:42 2001 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-980720-1) id JAA01171; Tue, 20 Feb 2001 09:29:30 -0800 (PST) Received: from shell7.ba.best.com (shell7.ba.best.com [206.184.139.138]) by honor.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id DF99D17E8C for ; Tue, 20 Feb 2001 09:29:20 -0800 (PST) Received: (from cnorman@localhost) by shell7.ba.best.com (8.9.3/8.9.2/best.sh) id JAA18431; Tue, 20 Feb 2001 09:29:26 -0800 (PST) Date: Tue, 20 Feb 2001 09:29:26 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <200102201729.JAA18431@shell7.ba.best.com> From: Cyndi Norman To: majordomo-users@GreatCircle.COM Cc: cnorman@best.com Subject: Expanding info in digest message fronters Reply-To: cnorman@best.com Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk If there is a place to look up details of config commands, please point me there. I looked at http://www.greatcircle.com/majordomo/ and the only FAQ's are for md initial setup. I am using version 1.94.4 of Majordomo. I run a list that has a regular and a digest version. I have the digest set up so it gives a list of subjects from the individual messages as a list in the header of the digest. >From the config file: # message_fronter [string_array] (undef) # Text to be prepended to the beginning of all messages posted to # the list. The text is expanded before being used. The following # expansion tokens are defined: $LIST - the name of the current # list, $SENDER - the sender as taken from the from line, $VERSION, # the version of majordomo. If used in a digest, only the expansion # token _SUBJECTS_ is available, and it expands to the list of # message subjects in the digest message_fronter << END _SUBJECTS_ END I would like to change this so that instead of showing: [IMMUNE] Re: your post [IMMUNE] new post [IMMUNE] Re: new post It shows: Jane Doe [IMMUNE] Re: your post John Roe [IMMUNE] new post sally.moestein@operamail.com [IMMUNE] Re: new post Or something to that effect. Is that possible? If so, how? Thanks! Cyndi -- _______________________________________________________________________________ "There's nothing wrong with me. Maybe there's Cyndi Norman something wrong with the universe." (ST:TNG) cyndi@consultclarity.com http://www.tikvah.com/ _________________ Owner of the Immune Website & Lists http://www.immuneweb.org/ From majordomo-users-owner Tue Feb 20 12:51:22 2001 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-980720-1) id MAA03486; Tue, 20 Feb 2001 12:08:11 -0800 (PST) Received: from netscape.com (c3po.netscape.com [205.217.237.46]) by honor.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id CF4AF17E8C for ; Tue, 20 Feb 2001 12:07:57 -0800 (PST) Received: from judge.mcom.com (judge.mcom.com [205.217.237.53]) by netscape.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with ESMTP id f1KK7uH15274 for ; Tue, 20 Feb 2001 12:07:56 -0800 (PST) Received: from netscape.com ([205.217.240.34]) by judge.mcom.com (Netscape Messaging Server 4.15) with ESMTP id G92NX601.11C; Tue, 20 Feb 2001 12:07:54 -0800 Message-ID: <3A92CE65.6944D9B7@netscape.com> Date: Tue, 20 Feb 2001 14:07:01 -0600 From: Dan Liston Organization: iPlanet eCommerce Solutions, A Sun-Netscape Alliance X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.76 [en] (X11; U; Linux 2.2.17-14 i686) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Freaked Personality Cc: majordomo-users@GreatCircle.COM Subject: Re: Header info gets processed as commands References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk Start your message body with a blank line, followed by a line with just a - on it, then begin your message to majordomo-users with your question. I have a meeting I am late for, but will get back to you via the list. Eaxample message body: - My question is this... TIA. me Dan Liston Freaked Personality wrote: > > Dan I'd surely would like, but I've tried that 6 times, with 3 different > mails none of which came thru :-) > The problem I have is that when I mail with MS Outlook Express (haven't > tried much others yet) it will try to process some header info (ie charset > stuff and others) as commands and give me unknown command errors > if you think you might be able to help me i can email to you directly > > kind regards, > > Ferry van Steen > > On Tue, 20 Feb 2001, Dan Liston wrote: > > > As you learn more about majordomo and it's inner workings, you will begin > > to understand why this is. Please ask your question. > > > > Dan Liston > > > > Freaked Personality wrote: > > > > > > - > > > -- > > > end > > > > > > Hey there, > > > > > > I have a problem > > > i can't mail it since you catch majordomo commands in normal mailinglist > > > mails which doesn't make any sense to me on the mailing lists help mail > > > list since ppl will have questions about them. > > > > > > please lemme know when I CAN send my message\ > > > > > > kind regards, > > > > > > Ferry van Steen > > From majordomo-users-owner Tue Feb 20 13:11:09 2001 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-980720-1) id KAA01957; Tue, 20 Feb 2001 10:29:36 -0800 (PST) Received: from freaky2000.dyndns.org (9dyn139.breda.casema.net [195.96.116.139]) by honor.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2435F17E8C for ; Tue, 20 Feb 2001 10:29:15 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (freaky@localhost) by freaky2000.dyndns.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id TAA03906; Tue, 20 Feb 2001 19:29:43 +0100 Date: Tue, 20 Feb 2001 19:29:42 +0100 (CET) From: Freaked Personality X-Sender: freaky@linux.paddo.trip To: David Wilkinson Cc: majordomo-users@GreatCircle.COM Subject: Re: Err test In-Reply-To: <002101c09b50$55941170$5b5da4d0@avatar> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk - -- i've set i n d e x g e t w h o and w h i c h to closed, the first 3 will say command disabled if you use them however the last one just says no results found while i used the exact email addy i subscribed, w h i c h did return my email addy before it was set to closed :-) any idea if that behaviour is normal? I'd expect it to say this command is disabled also kind regards, ferry On Tue, 20 Feb 2001, David Wilkinson wrote: > In the config file for each of your lists, make sure that the which and who > are set the way you want; either 1)one must be a member of the list to > perform the command, 2)anyone can do it, or 3) no-one can do it. The lines > in the config file is something that controls those variables so search for > those and read the maj man pages on them. Hope that helps. > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Freaked Personality" > To: "David Wilkinson" > Cc: > Sent: Tuesday, February 20, 2001 6:58 AM > Subject: Re: Err test > > > > Well usually I like answers to my problems :-) > > it's on majordomo but i can't use the words w h i c h and w h o > > appearantly nor s u b s c r i b e and stuff which doesn't make sense on a > > mailing list that is to stupport the mailing list software but ok... > > > > hope this will arrive though gonna try to forward the email AGAIN (time 6 > > or so) > > > > kind regards, > > > > Ferry van Steen > > > > > > > > On Tue, 20 Feb 2001, David Wilkinson wrote: > > > > > Maybe they didn't require a response? I got your message> > > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > From: "Freaked Personality" > > > To: > > > Sent: Tuesday, February 20, 2001 2:09 AM > > > Subject: Err test > > > > > > > > > > Why does everything I sent to this list > > > > (majordomo-users@greatcircle.com) dissapear into oblivion? No error > msgs, > > > > no replies, no anything... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > From majordomo-users-owner Tue Feb 20 13:23:30 2001 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-980720-1) id JAA01240; Tue, 20 Feb 2001 09:34:40 -0800 (PST) Received: from netscape.com (r2d2.netscape.com [205.217.237.47]) by honor.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 67E5817E8C for ; Tue, 20 Feb 2001 09:34:34 -0800 (PST) Received: from judge.mcom.com (judge.mcom.com [205.217.237.53]) by netscape.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with ESMTP id f1KHYc120008 for ; Tue, 20 Feb 2001 09:34:39 -0800 (PST) Received: from netscape.com ([205.217.240.50]) by judge.mcom.com (Netscape Messaging Server 4.15) with ESMTP id G92GTQ03.9PF; Tue, 20 Feb 2001 09:34:38 -0800 Message-ID: <3A92AA79.67133305@netscape.com> Date: Tue, 20 Feb 2001 11:33:45 -0600 From: Dan Liston Organization: iPlanet eCommerce Solutions, A Sun-Netscape Alliance X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.76 [en] (X11; U; Linux 2.2.17-14 i686) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: huanglp Cc: majordomo-users@GreatCircle.COM Subject: Re: Hi,everyone References: <01a001c09aea$be6097c0$5701010a@neualpine.com> <3A920355.A99371FF@netscape.com> <002601c09b07$fb2b5010$5701010a@neualpine.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk Make sure /etc/aliases does not have the execute bit set. The file should be -rw-r--r-- chmod -x /etc/aliases rm /etc/aliases.db newaliases Dan Liston huanglp wrote: > > Thanks. > > I execute newaliases, but the result is: > hash map "Alias0 : unsafe map file /etc/aliases.db: Executable files not > allowed > WARNING: cannot open alias database /etc/aliases > Cannot create database for alias file /etc/aliases > > Now how can i repaire the sendmail? Thanks in advance! > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > ~~ > ??? > ??????? > ??:(8624)23783000-62012 > ??:(8624)23782266 > ??:huanglp@neu-alpine.com > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Dan Liston" > To: "huanglp" > Cc: > Sent: Tuesday, February 20, 2001 1:40 PM > Subject: Re: Hi,everyone > > > You are trying to execute a non-executable file. /etc/aliases is a text > file > > that holds the mappings of aliases to mailboxes. The command I think you > are > > intending to run is `newaliases`. > > > > Dan Liston > > > > huanglp wrote: > > > > > > Hi, i have a question and ask everyone helps me. > > > > > > This morining I setup a new list. When I execute "./etc/aliases", it > cannot > > > execute. I want to know why? I use "root" to execute it. The result is > > > "Permission denied". > > > > > > Thanks in advance! -- -- Dan Liston --------------------- dliston@netscape.com -- -- Netscape Consultant ------------------ (214) 906-1675 -- -- iPlanet E-Commerce Solutions, A Sun Netscape Alliance -- From majordomo-users-owner Tue Feb 20 14:59:56 2001 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-980720-1) id OAA05518; Tue, 20 Feb 2001 14:41:48 -0800 (PST) Received: from cascadia.drizzle.com (cascadia.drizzle.com [216.162.192.17]) by honor.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0603417E8C for ; Tue, 20 Feb 2001 14:41:37 -0800 (PST) Received: from EB (damp217.drizzle.com [216.162.198.217]) by cascadia.drizzle.com (8.11.2/8.11.2) with SMTP id f1KMfhN07712 for ; Tue, 20 Feb 2001 14:41:43 -0800 From: "Clayton Beaudoin" To: Subject: poster stuff Date: Tue, 20 Feb 2001 14:41:42 -0800 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk Hello all- I'm new to this list, but have been doing low level majordomo admin for about a year now. We host over 500 lists for the northwest conservation community. I have a group that would like to allow members to post to the interactive list from multiple email addresses, but only receive postings at one account. My solution is to add a posters entry in the restrict-post setting of the config file and include the list roster within the posters file, which also includes these additional address that don't actually want to receive postings. To allow the list administrator to continue maintaining the roster (receiving postings) as always (they aren't allowed to edit the posters file directly, it goes through me), I'd like make the posters file point back at the roster while including a few additional addresses. The question is this: Is there any way, via pearl command or majordomo pointer, to essentially have the roster file be a subset of the posters file? To make the posters file reference the roster? I may not be explaining this well, please let me know if I can clarify. Thanks for your help. Clayton ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Clayton Beaudoin Program Manager-ONE/Northwest Online Networking for the Environment - www.onenw.org 1080 W. Ewing Place, Suite #301 Seattle, WA 98119-1422 206.286.1235 ext. 14 ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Subscribe to ONEList, ONE/Northwest's monthly email newsletter about using the Internet to protect the environment! http://www.onenw.org/onelist/ ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ "We cannot solve the problems that we have created with the same thinking that created them." - Albert Einstein From majordomo-users-owner Tue Feb 20 15:15:00 2001 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-980720-1) id PAA05946; Tue, 20 Feb 2001 15:03:50 -0800 (PST) Received: from mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net (mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net [151.164.30.28]) by honor.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8422F17E8C for ; Tue, 20 Feb 2001 15:03:44 -0800 (PST) Received: from swbell.net ([216.63.79.227]) by mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net (Sun Internet Mail Server sims.3.5.2000.01.05.12.18.p9) with ESMTP id <0G920001KVQCU3@mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net> for majordomo-users@GreatCircle.COM; Tue, 20 Feb 2001 16:56:36 -0600 (CST) Date: Tue, 20 Feb 2001 16:56:36 -0600 From: Bill Polhemus Subject: Re: Question about resend... To: mjn Cc: majordomo-users@GreatCircle.COM Message-id: <3A92F624.6BDCA056@swbell.net> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.76 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-Accept-Language: en,pdf References: Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk Applying the K.I.S.S. concept: Is there any way you can turn off the addition of the footer in the virus scanner? mjn wrote: > > Anyone have ideas/suggestions/other thoughts? From majordomo-users-owner Tue Feb 20 16:34:51 2001 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-980720-1) id QAA06779; Tue, 20 Feb 2001 16:02:29 -0800 (PST) Received: from postal.sdsc.edu (postal.sdsc.edu [132.249.20.114]) by honor.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8434317E8C for ; Tue, 20 Feb 2001 16:02:22 -0800 (PST) Received: from multivac.sdsc.edu (multivac.sdsc.edu [132.249.20.57]) by postal.sdsc.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/SDSCserver-16) with ESMTP id QAA16704; Tue, 20 Feb 2001 16:02:27 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost by multivac (8.9.3+Sun/1.11-SolarisClient) with ESMTP id QAA11759; Tue, 20 Feb 2001 16:02:27 -0800 (PST) Date: Tue, 20 Feb 2001 16:02:27 -0800 (PST) From: David Padilla To: mjn Cc: Subject: Re: Question about resend... In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk Mike - I was wondering if you would share with us the name of the virus scanner you are using. This sounds like something a lot of us would be interested in getting. (Sorry I can't answer you question - I just don't know enough about majordomo yet.) ----------------------------------------------------------------------- David J. Padilla Protein Data Bank, Research Collaboratory for Structural Bioinformatics San Diego Supercomputer Center dpadilla@sdsc.edu ----------------------------------------------------------------------- On Tue, 20 Feb 2001, mjn wrote: > We have started using a virus scanner on our email systems and its pretty > gosh darn cool. The part that is not cool is that the virus scanner gets > ahold of emails to the majordomo system before those messages hit resend. > > This is ok except for one thing. The virus scanner includes a footer > which says something about it being scanned for viruses. Then the > message hits majordomo and the resend and the regular footer is attached. > > So I get the virus footer before the message footer. This is bad because > the message footer usually contains information about what the list is and > who to contact with problems. > > What I'd like to do is modify resend to look for this footer in the > message body, delete if it finds it, and repaste it at the bottom after > the normal footer. Or merely insert the real footer before the virus > footer... > > Anyone have ideas/suggestions/other thoughts? > > ____________________________ > Mike Neuharth > ADCS Technology Specialist > http://www.umn.edu/adcs > > E-Mail : mjn@umn.edu > Page Mail : 6126486512@page.metrocall.com > http://supermonkeycollider.dyndns.org/ > ____________________________ > > > From majordomo-users-owner Tue Feb 20 22:23:43 2001 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-980720-1) id VAA10622; Tue, 20 Feb 2001 21:54:34 -0800 (PST) Received: from arm.mrball.net (mrball.net [209.85.130.137]) by honor.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C680817E8B for ; Tue, 20 Feb 2001 21:54:28 -0800 (PST) Received: from mrball.net (todd.mrball.net [192.168.18.3]) by arm.mrball.net (8.11.2/8.11.2) with ESMTP id f1L5fMd11027; Tue, 20 Feb 2001 21:41:22 -0800 Message-ID: <3A935500.B96E0BF5@mrball.net> Date: Tue, 20 Feb 2001 21:41:20 -0800 From: Todd Lyons X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (X11; U; Linux 2.2.14-zip i586) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Kevin Healy Cc: majordomo-users@GreatCircle.COM Subject: Re: Bounce Code References: <22B6B3E839F4D311AAFB00C00D0117E1175EE7@webbusters> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk Kevin Healy wrote: > > Hi > > Can anyone tell me why when I try to post to a list I sometimes (I stress > sometimes) get this message: Check to see if the sender address is always the same. As an example on my system, mail from todd@mrball.net is accepted, but mail from todd@arm.mrball.net (the actual machine name) is rejected. Dig a little deeper into the error message. Post the bounced message (all the headers and error messages, but omitting the text). -- Blue skies... Todd | Get a bigger hammer! | Never mind me. I'm speaking out of | | http://www.mrball.net | my /dev/ass anyway. | | http://faq.mrball.net | --Gash Teshome | From majordomo-users-owner Tue Feb 20 22:56:19 2001 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-980720-1) id VAA10462; Tue, 20 Feb 2001 21:35:20 -0800 (PST) Received: from arm.mrball.net (mrball.net [209.85.130.137]) by honor.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7A1CC17E8B for ; Tue, 20 Feb 2001 21:35:14 -0800 (PST) Received: from mrball.net (todd.mrball.net [192.168.18.3]) by arm.mrball.net (8.11.2/8.11.2) with ESMTP id f1L5ZEd11012; Tue, 20 Feb 2001 21:35:14 -0800 Message-ID: <3A935390.DFBE80A3@mrball.net> Date: Tue, 20 Feb 2001 21:35:12 -0800 From: Todd Lyons X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (X11; U; Linux 2.2.14-zip i586) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "Adam H. Kerman" , Majordomo Users Subject: Re: Preventing mail loop References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk "Adam H. Kerman" wrote: > If you filter for "owner-[listname]", you'll prevent bounced administrative > messages from being posted. Almost. The demime author pointed out that I had a misconfiguration. I was setting the sender to listname instead of listname-owner. Hence, the filtering wouldn't work. But this is a moot point since I manually reset the sender with bulk_mailer, so it ended up requiring a fix in my majordomo aliases file instead of the listname.config file. -- Blue skies... Todd | Get a bigger hammer! | Never mind me. I'm speaking out of | | http://www.mrball.net | my /dev/ass anyway. | | http://faq.mrball.net | --Gash Teshome | From majordomo-users-owner Wed Feb 21 03:18:12 2001 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-980720-1) id CAA15188; Wed, 21 Feb 2001 02:53:06 -0800 (PST) Received: from relay02.cablecom.net (relay02.cablecom.net [62.2.33.102]) by honor.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8F3D717EAF for ; Wed, 21 Feb 2001 02:52:55 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail.swissonline.ch (mail.swissonline.ch [62.2.32.83]) by relay02.cablecom.net (8.11.1/8.11.0/SOL/MXRELAY-1.03) with ESMTP id f1LAqpu65457 for ; Wed, 21 Feb 2001 11:52:55 +0100 (CET) Received: from [192.168.0.15] (client74-80.hispeed.ch [62.2.74.80]) by mail.swissonline.ch (8.11.1/8.11.0/MSOL-2.17) with ESMTP id f1LAqor10203 for ; Wed, 21 Feb 2001 11:52:50 +0100 (MET) Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Sender: maki%prodok.com@mail7.burlee.com Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <3A92AA79.67133305@netscape.com> References: <01a001c09aea$be6097c0$5701010a@neualpine.com> <3A920355.A99371FF@netscape.com> <002601c09b07$fb2b5010$5701010a@neualpine.com> <3A92AA79.67133305@netscape.com> Date: Wed, 21 Feb 2001 11:45:49 +0100 To: majordomo-users@GreatCircle.COM From: Makiko Itoh Subject: reason for duplicate messages? Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk Besides the user inadvertently subscribing themselves twice under two different email addresses (which i must say,in this particular case I'm trying to troubleshoot, is not unlikely...) what other reasons might there be for a subscriber to be receiving duplicates of all list messages? It only seems to be happening to one subscriber. -- Makiko Itoh (Maki) PRODOK Engineering, Switzerland: http://www.prodok.com [building bridges for information] From majordomo-users-owner Wed Feb 21 03:31:00 2001 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-980720-1) id BAA14246; Wed, 21 Feb 2001 01:41:19 -0800 (PST) Received: from oxmail.ox.ac.uk (oxmail4.ox.ac.uk [163.1.2.33]) by honor.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 855CE17EAF for ; Wed, 21 Feb 2001 01:41:05 -0800 (PST) Received: from gwmail.jr2.ox.ac.uk ([163.1.212.1] helo=ulna.jr2.ox.ac.uk) by oxmail.ox.ac.uk with smtp (Exim 3.12 #1) id 14VVll-0005yM-00 for Majordomo-Users@GreatCircle.COM; Wed, 21 Feb 2001 09:41:09 +0000 Received: from Medicine-Message_Server by ulna.jr2.ox.ac.uk with Novell_GroupWise; Wed, 21 Feb 2001 09:40:54 +0000 Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise Internet Agent 5.5.4.1 Date: Wed, 21 Feb 2001 09:40:44 +0000 From: "Justin Broad" To: Cc: Subject: Re: 2 list owners Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk Yes looks like I have a sendmail issue. Thanks Justin >>> Dan Liston 20/02/01 17:29:19 >>> You must be new to mailing lists in general too. Your message being in HTML, the text was too small to read on my display. PLEASE use plain text when you compose messages to mailing lists to ensure all users can see/read your comments regardless of OS or MUA. Let me answer your question with a question. What happens if you=20 change the :include: RHS of the owner-listname alias to just an email address? Does it start working? If it does, you have a sendmail permissions issue. Dan Liston > Justin Broad wrote: >=20 > Hi, >=20 > I'm new to Linux/Unix so forgive my ignorance. I have managed to install = majordomo 1.94.5 on to Linux redhat 6.0. Every thing seems to be running = fine, but I would like to set up a list with more than one owner. I have = set up the list and aliases as shown in the readme file. >=20 > owner-listname::include:/usr/local/majordomo/lists/listname-owner > listname-owner: owner-listname > owner-owner-listname: owner-majordomo >=20 > Trouble is that this does not seem to work, I send requests to the list = but nothing happens. > From majordomo-users-owner Wed Feb 21 09:01:20 2001 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-980720-1) id IAA20321; Wed, 21 Feb 2001 08:24:03 -0800 (PST) Received: from garnet.tc.umn.edu (garnet.tc.umn.edu [160.94.218.249]) by honor.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2DB4B17EAF for ; Wed, 21 Feb 2001 08:23:57 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost by garnet.tc.umn.edu with ESMTP; Wed, 21 Feb 2001 10:23:53 -0600 Date: Wed, 21 Feb 2001 10:23:53 -0600 (CST) From: mjn X-Sender: mjn@garnet.tc.umn.edu To: David Padilla Cc: majordomo-users@GreatCircle.COM Subject: Re: Question about resend... In-Reply-To: Message-Id: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk As of Feb 20, 2001, David Padilla can be held liable for saying: > Mike - > > I was wondering if you would share with us the name of the virus scanner > you are using. This sounds like something a lot of us would be > interested in getting. (Sorry I can't answer you question - I just don't > know enough about majordomo yet.) > We are currently using Guinevere in conjuction with our Groupwise 5.5 system: http://www.indecon.com/guinevere/ We have a separate internet domain created for majordomo, with aliases for all of our majordomo lists (listname and listname-owner), in Groupwise. With this configuration, all mail going to our lists goes through Groupwise and thus gets scanned by default. I am looking into restricting delivery in sendmail to only our groupwise server and if anyone know where I might find information on that, I'd be much obliged. Guinevere doesn't do the actual scanning at all. It is setup on a 98 machine with Command Anti Virus. Basically, the 98 machine intercepts all incoming and outgoing mail, hands it to the virus scanner, sends out administrative messages/warnings if certain conditions are met, and finishes by handing the message/messages back to your MTA. Its nice because, not only can you grab viruses but you can look for specifics patterns in headers (attachment names) which may not yet have virus definitions, and act on them as you would any other virus. It is not quite as extensible as MIME Sweeper but it isn't nearly as expensive (something like $10-15k for MIME Sweeper(based on the number of users) and only $500(per server) for Guinevere) either... If anyone has other questions, I'd be more than happy to provide any information I can. ____________________________ Mike Neuharth ADCS Technology Specialist http://www.umn.edu/adcs E-Mail : mjn@umn.edu Page Mail : 6126486512@page.metrocall.com http://supermonkeycollider.dyndns.org/ ____________________________ From majordomo-users-owner Wed Feb 21 10:18:57 2001 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-980720-1) id JAA21375; Wed, 21 Feb 2001 09:57:58 -0800 (PST) Received: from sonny.org (unknown [205.217.137.8]) by honor.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 73C9D17EAF for ; Wed, 21 Feb 2001 09:57:51 -0800 (PST) Received: from netscape.com (citadel.teamp.com [206.81.132.94]) by sonny.org (8.8.8/8.8.3) with ESMTP id LAA10889; Wed, 21 Feb 2001 11:57:51 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <3A940148.2D0231EF@netscape.com> Date: Wed, 21 Feb 2001 11:56:24 -0600 From: Dan Liston Organization: iPlanet eCommerce Solutions, A Sun-Netscape Alliance X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.76 [en] (X11; U; Linux 2.2.17-14 i686) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Makiko Itoh Cc: majordomo-users@greatcircle.com Subject: Re: reason for duplicate messages? References: <01a001c09aea$be6097c0$5701010a@neualpine.com> <3A920355.A99371FF@netscape.com> <002601c09b07$fb2b5010$5701010a@neualpine.com> <3A92AA79.67133305@netscape.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk - If another list is subscribed to your list, which the user is also subscribed to, they would get duplicates, but the headers should show the additional hops through the other server. If headers are also identical, they are subscribed twice. Headers should be the give-away as to what route each message is taking, and indicate where to look for removing the second address. Dan Liston Makiko Itoh wrote: > > Besides the user inadvertently subscribing themselves twice under two > different email addresses (which i must say,in this particular case > I'm trying to troubleshoot, is not unlikely...) what other reasons > might there be for a subscriber to be receiving duplicates of all > list messages? It only seems to be happening to one subscriber. > -- > Makiko Itoh (Maki) > PRODOK Engineering, Switzerland: http://www.prodok.com > [building bridges for information] From majordomo-users-owner Wed Feb 21 10:47:27 2001 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-980720-1) id KAA21487; Wed, 21 Feb 2001 10:05:06 -0800 (PST) Received: from sonny.org (unknown [205.217.137.8]) by honor.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C6A8717EAF for ; Wed, 21 Feb 2001 10:04:53 -0800 (PST) Received: from netscape.com (citadel.teamp.com [206.81.132.94]) by sonny.org (8.8.8/8.8.3) with ESMTP id MAA10901; Wed, 21 Feb 2001 12:02:57 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <3A94027A.8D8C593E@netscape.com> Date: Wed, 21 Feb 2001 12:01:30 -0600 From: Dan Liston Organization: iPlanet eCommerce Solutions, A Sun-Netscape Alliance X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.76 [en] (X11; U; Linux 2.2.17-14 i686) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Justin Broad Cc: Majordomo-Users@greatcircle.com Subject: Re: 2 list owners References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk I would make a change here, so owner-listname aliases to listname-owner rather than the other way around. Owner-owner-listname is redundant. If you follow the above suggestion, it would imply that listname-owner becomes :include:/usr/local/majordomo/lists/listname-owner. This file should be owner:group majordomo:majordomo and -rw-r--r-- to keep sendmail happy. Dan Liston > > owner-listname::include:/usr/local/majordomo/lists/listname-owner > > listname-owner: owner-listname > > owner-owner-listname: owner-majordomo Justin Broad wrote: > > Yes looks like I have a sendmail issue. > > Thanks > > Justin > > >>> Dan Liston 20/02/01 17:29:19 >>> > You must be new to mailing lists in general too. Your message being > in HTML, the text was too small to read on my display. PLEASE use > plain text when you compose messages to mailing lists to ensure all > users can see/read your comments regardless of OS or MUA. > > Let me answer your question with a question. What happens if you > change the :include: RHS of the owner-listname alias to just an email > address? Does it start working? If it does, you have a sendmail > permissions issue. > > Dan Liston > > > Justin Broad wrote: > > > > Hi, > > > > I'm new to Linux/Unix so forgive my ignorance. I have managed to install majordomo 1.94.5 on to Linux redhat 6.0. Every thing seems to be running fine, but I would like to set up a list with more than one owner. I have set up the list and aliases as shown in the readme file. > > > > owner-listname::include:/usr/local/majordomo/lists/listname-owner > > listname-owner: owner-listname > > owner-owner-listname: owner-majordomo > > > > Trouble is that this does not seem to work, I send requests to the list but nothing happens. > > From majordomo-users-owner Wed Feb 21 12:43:28 2001 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-980720-1) id MAA22867; Wed, 21 Feb 2001 12:09:33 -0800 (PST) Received: from haas.berkeley.edu (haasb.Haas.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.67.113]) by honor.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9126117EAF for ; Wed, 21 Feb 2001 12:09:27 -0800 (PST) Received: from Greenthumb.haas.berkeley.edu (haas-s300k015.Haas.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.67.109]) by haas.berkeley.edu (8.11.2/8.11.2) with ESMTP id f1LK8vv23566 for ; Wed, 21 Feb 2001 12:08:57 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <4.3.2.7.2.20010221121041.00b54010@haas.berkeley.edu> X-Sender: xma@haas.berkeley.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 4.3.2 Date: Wed, 21 Feb 2001 12:14:05 -0800 To: majordomo-users@GreatCircle.COM From: Xiaoyan Ma Subject: bounce to sender patch Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk We have installed the majordomo patch, "config_parse.pl-resend.1" from ftp.ccsf.org/majordomo-patches/1.94.5 for the new feature "non_member_bounce" which allows sender to receive bounced message. I tested on a couple of lists and set "non_member_bounce = sender" (to both owner and sender) or "non_member_bounce = sender-owner" (to sender only). But for some reason bounced messages only go to the owner. We are running majordomo 1.94.5 on SPARC Solaris2.6 . I installed the patch from majordomo home by running `patch < /usr/local/src/config_parse.pl-resend.1`. Has anyone installed the patch on Solaris? Any suggestions will be predicated. Xiaoyan Ma From majordomo-users-owner Wed Feb 21 13:10:02 2001 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-980720-1) id MAA23082; Wed, 21 Feb 2001 12:34:03 -0800 (PST) Received: from lisa.nawcad.navy.mil (lisa.nawcad.navy.mil [192.58.199.174]) by honor.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1214317EAF for ; Wed, 21 Feb 2001 12:33:58 -0800 (PST) Received: by lisa.nawcad.navy.mil; id PAA22145; Wed, 21 Feb 2001 15:34:03 -0500 (EST) From: Message-Id: <200102212034.PAA22145@lisa.nawcad.navy.mil> Received: from tecnet1.jcte.jcs.mil(140.229.33.200) by lisa.nawcad.navy.mil via smap (V4.2) id xma021654; Wed, 21 Feb 01 15:33:47 -0500 Date: Wed, 21 Feb 01 15:32:48 EDT To: majordomo-users@greatcircle.com Posted: Feb 21 15:32 2001 EST (Feb 21 20:32 ZULU) Subject: MJD 1.94.5 version 2 Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk Hi, I saw some rumblings about majordomo 1.94.5 version 2. Is this version available, where can I find it (greatcircle only has 1.94.5), and what are the adventages? Dave Ansalvish From majordomo-users-owner Wed Feb 21 13:28:21 2001 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-980720-1) id MAA23091; Wed, 21 Feb 2001 12:34:56 -0800 (PST) Received: from arm.mrball.net (mrball.net [209.85.130.137]) by honor.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1D1FD17EAF for ; Wed, 21 Feb 2001 12:34:50 -0800 (PST) Received: from mrball.net (todd.mrball.net [192.168.18.3]) by arm.mrball.net (8.11.2/8.11.2) with ESMTP id f1LKYZd12812; Wed, 21 Feb 2001 12:34:35 -0800 Message-ID: <3A942659.A66687A8@mrball.net> Date: Wed, 21 Feb 2001 12:34:33 -0800 From: Todd Lyons X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (X11; U; Linux 2.2.14-zip i586) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "Simone L. Crider" Cc: majordomo-users@GreatCircle.COM Subject: Re: Fw: Problems installing majordomo on Linux 6.2 system References: <006b01c09c2f$127ad650$a101a8c0@ncddc.noaa.gov> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk Did you just upgrade to the newest sendmail (8.11.2)? As I recall, the default redhat 6.2 install has sendmail.cf in /etc, not /etc/mail. If this is the case, then you have a couple of things to look at. Where does sendmail expect the smrsh directory to be? Redhat installs are configured for it to be /etc/smrsh. The sendmail install from source expects it to be in /usr/adm/sm.bin and the smrsh binary needs to be in /usr/libexec. The next thing is to see what group sendmail is running as and try changing the group of wrapper to that same group. Blue skies... Todd --------->Original message Hi Todd, I posted the following email, yesterday. In reading through the FAQs, I see that you assisted Fritz Thomas w/ the same sorta problem. However, I do not see a clear resolution to the problem. I hoping that this additional information might enable you to assist me. I do have a symbolic link w/in /etc/smrsh, # ls -alt /etc/smrsh/ total 8 drwxr-xr-x 45 root root 4096 Feb 21 10:56 .. drwxr-xr-x 2 root root 4096 Feb 20 16:07 . lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 35 Feb 20 16:07 wrapper -> /usr/local/majordomo-1.94.5/wrapper # ls -atl /usr/local/majordomo-1.94.5/wrapper -rwsr-xr-x 1 root majordom 14934 Feb 14 14:50 /usr/local/majordomo-1.94.5/wrapper # cat /etc/mail/sendmail.cf |grep DefaultUser #O DefaultUser=mailnull I'm using the HOWTO document posted at RedHat, is there something that I'm missing. Thanks in advance for any assistance. Simone -- Blue skies... Todd | Get a bigger hammer! | Never mind me. I'm speaking out of | | http://www.mrball.net | my /dev/ass anyway. | | http://faq.mrball.net | --Gash Teshome | From majordomo-users-owner Wed Feb 21 14:19:50 2001 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-980720-1) id OAA24082; Wed, 21 Feb 2001 14:07:55 -0800 (PST) Received: from cascadia.drizzle.com (cascadia.drizzle.com [216.162.192.17]) by honor.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id DE02E17EAF for ; Wed, 21 Feb 2001 14:07:48 -0800 (PST) Received: from EB (damp217.drizzle.com [216.162.198.217]) by cascadia.drizzle.com (8.11.2/8.11.2) with SMTP id f1LM7tC18230; Wed, 21 Feb 2001 14:07:55 -0800 From: "Clayton Beaudoin" To: "Dan Liston" Cc: Subject: RE: poster stuff Date: Wed, 21 Feb 2001 14:07:53 -0800 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 In-Reply-To: <3A9383B3.593F38E5@campuspipeline.com> Importance: Normal Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk Thanks a bunch, this is exactly the solution I was looking for. Clayton -----Original Message----- From: Dan Liston [mailto:dan.liston@campuspipeline.com]On Behalf Of Dan Liston Sent: Wednesday, February 21, 2001 1:01 AM To: Clayton Beaudoin Cc: majordomo-users@GreatCircle.COM Subject: Re: poster stuff - Your restrict_post setting will allow multiple file names. Use one of the file names (listname) as your first allowed list of posters, and your second file name (listname-post) separated by colon or space from the first filename, be the list of post-but-dont-receive addresses. By giving the second list of address the listname-post file name, and putting that file in your "lists" directory, you have the ability to manipulate the members via [un]subscribe commands to majordomo. Dan Liston Clayton Beaudoin wrote: > > Hello all- > > I'm new to this list, but have been doing low level majordomo admin for > about a year now. We host over 500 lists for the northwest conservation > community. > > I have a group that would like to allow members to post to the interactive > list from multiple email addresses, but only receive postings at one > account. My solution is to add a posters entry in the restrict-post setting > of the config file and include the list roster within the posters file, > which also includes these additional address that don't actually want to > receive postings. > > To allow the list administrator to continue maintaining the roster > (receiving postings) as always (they aren't allowed to edit the posters file > directly, it goes through me), I'd like make the posters file point back at > the roster while including a few additional addresses. > > The question is this: Is there any way, via pearl command or majordomo > pointer, to essentially have the roster file be a subset of the posters > file? To make the posters file reference the roster? > > I may not be explaining this well, please let me know if I can clarify. > > Thanks for your help. > > Clayton > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > Clayton Beaudoin > Program Manager-ONE/Northwest > Online Networking for the Environment - www.onenw.org > 1080 W. Ewing Place, Suite #301 > Seattle, WA 98119-1422 > 206.286.1235 ext. 14 > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > Subscribe to ONEList, ONE/Northwest's monthly email newsletter about > using the Internet to protect the environment! > http://www.onenw.org/onelist/ > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > > "We cannot solve the problems that we have created with the same thinking > that created them." - Albert Einstein From majordomo-users-owner Wed Feb 21 15:56:57 2001 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-980720-1) id PAA25005; Wed, 21 Feb 2001 15:34:12 -0800 (PST) Received: from ns1.psx.net (ns1.psx.net [207.90.223.2]) by honor.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8238317EAF for ; Wed, 21 Feb 2001 15:34:06 -0800 (PST) Received: from hemicuda (max6-16.max6.hou.infohwy.com [207.90.198.16]) by ns1.psx.net (8.9.3/8.9.2/inradio-1.0) with SMTP id SAA28345 for ; Wed Feb 21 18:42:31 2001 Message-ID: <3a5101c09c60$8c8c43d0$0500a8c0@infohwy.com> Reply-To: "hostmaster" From: "hostmaster" To: References: <4.3.2.7.2.20010221121041.00b54010@haas.berkeley.edu> Subject: Re: bounce to sender patch Date: Wed, 21 Feb 2001 17:46:45 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.3825.400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.3825.400 Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk I sent my previous question before reading the below (or the manual it seems)-- seems there may be a way to handle bounces elegantly. I'll make sure I RTFM and hopefully become a part of the solution. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Xiaoyan Ma" To: Sent: Wednesday, February 21, 2001 2:14 PM Subject: bounce to sender patch > We have installed the majordomo patch, "config_parse.pl-resend.1" from > ftp.ccsf.org/majordomo-patches/1.94.5 for the new feature > "non_member_bounce" which allows sender to receive bounced message. I > tested on a couple of lists and set "non_member_bounce = sender" (to both > owner and sender) or "non_member_bounce = sender-owner" (to sender > only). But for some reason bounced messages only go to the owner. > > We are running majordomo 1.94.5 on SPARC Solaris2.6 . I installed the > patch from majordomo home by running `patch < > /usr/local/src/config_parse.pl-resend.1`. > > Has anyone installed the patch on Solaris? Any suggestions will be predicated. > > Xiaoyan Ma > From majordomo-users-owner Wed Feb 21 16:03:40 2001 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-980720-1) id PAA25168; Wed, 21 Feb 2001 15:49:35 -0800 (PST) Received: from math.buffalostate.edu (math.buffalostate.edu [136.183.3.170]) by honor.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8AC5D17EAF for ; Wed, 21 Feb 2001 15:49:27 -0800 (PST) Received: (from sanders@localhost) by math.buffalostate.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) id TAA10633; Wed, 21 Feb 2001 19:50:15 -0500 Date: Wed, 21 Feb 2001 19:50:15 -0500 From: Robin Sanders Message-Id: <200102220050.TAA10633@math.buffalostate.edu> To: majordomo-users@GreatCircle.com Subject: Problems posting to THIS list Cc: sanders@math.buffalostate.edu Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk Hi y'all, I've subscribed to the list. I'm trying (desparately) to post a message about a problem I've been having. In the mail I quote the error message that is sent to me as the majordomo caretaker when my users try to get OFF my lists. My mail never seems to make it to the list, but it's also not bounced back to me as undeliverable either. Any ideas on how I can get the specifics about the problem posted so that I can pick your brains about fixing the problem? Robin Sue Sanders Associate Professor and part-time sys-adm mail: Mathematics Department Buffalo State College 1300 Elmwood Ave. Buffalo, NY 14222 email: sanders@math.buffalostate.edu phone: (716) 878-6506 From majordomo-users-owner Wed Feb 21 17:15:23 2001 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-980720-1) id RAA25979; Wed, 21 Feb 2001 17:03:55 -0800 (PST) Received: from math.buffalostate.edu (math.buffalostate.edu [136.183.3.170]) by honor.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 970F017EAF for ; Wed, 21 Feb 2001 17:03:49 -0800 (PST) Received: (from sanders@localhost) by math.buffalostate.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) id VAA10746 for majordomo-users@GreatCircle.com; Wed, 21 Feb 2001 21:04:36 -0500 Date: Wed, 21 Feb 2001 21:04:36 -0500 From: Robin Sanders Message-Id: <200102220204.VAA10746@math.buffalostate.edu> To: majordomo-users@GreatCircle.com Subject: Problems posting to THIS list Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk Hi y'all, I've subscribed to the list. I'm trying (desparately) to post a message about a problem I've been having. In the mail I quote the error message that is sent to me as the majordomo caretaker when my users try to get OFF my lists. My mail never seems to make it to the list, but it's also not bounced back to me as undeliverable either. Any ideas on how I can get the specifics about the problem posted so that I can pick your brains about fixing the problem? Robin Sue Sanders From majordomo-users-owner Wed Feb 21 17:38:09 2001 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-980720-1) id RAA26215; Wed, 21 Feb 2001 17:20:21 -0800 (PST) Received: from mailhost.mis.net (mailhost.mis.net [204.68.227.104]) by honor.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8C78017EAF for ; Wed, 21 Feb 2001 17:20:00 -0800 (PST) Received: from [206.28.53.69] (modem-pool-831.mis.net [206.28.53.69]) by mailhost.mis.net (8.11.0/8.11.0) with ESMTP id f1M1Db830057; Wed, 21 Feb 2001 20:13:38 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Sender: brewerd@pop.mikrotec.com Message-Id: In-Reply-To: References: X-Setting-Eudora: 624=y Date: Wed, 21 Feb 2001 20:15:53 -0500 To: "Clayton Beaudoin" , From: Doug Brewer Subject: Re: poster stuff Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk Clayton, What I did was create a new list, listname-nomail, which is really just a list of subscribers, a config and an alias. No mail is sent through the list, and no mail is sent from the list. The subscriber list is then included in the restrict_post line with the regular list. Good luck Doug At 2:41 PM -0800 2/20/01, Clayton Beaudoin wrote: >Hello all- > >I'm new to this list, but have been doing low level majordomo admin for >about a year now. We host over 500 lists for the northwest conservation >community. > >I have a group that would like to allow members to post to the interactive >list from multiple email addresses, but only receive postings at one >account. My solution is to add a posters entry in the restrict-post setting >of the config file and include the list roster within the posters file, >which also includes these additional address that don't actually want to >receive postings. > >To allow the list administrator to continue maintaining the roster >(receiving postings) as always (they aren't allowed to edit the posters file >directly, it goes through me), I'd like make the posters file point back at >the roster while including a few additional addresses. > >The question is this: Is there any way, via pearl command or majordomo >pointer, to essentially have the roster file be a subset of the posters >file? To make the posters file reference the roster? > >I may not be explaining this well, please let me know if I can clarify. > >Thanks for your help. > >Clayton -- Douglas Forrest Brewer Ashwood Lake Photography doug@alphoto.com http://www.alphoto.com From majordomo-users-owner Wed Feb 21 21:28:06 2001 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-980720-1) id VAA29230; Wed, 21 Feb 2001 21:21:21 -0800 (PST) Received: from sonny.org (unknown [205.217.137.8]) by honor.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9A1AC17E8E for ; Wed, 21 Feb 2001 21:21:15 -0800 (PST) Received: from netscape.com (citadel.teamp.com [206.81.132.94]) by sonny.org (8.8.8/8.8.3) with ESMTP id XAA11968; Wed, 21 Feb 2001 23:21:17 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <3A94A172.7E558E97@netscape.com> Date: Wed, 21 Feb 2001 23:19:46 -0600 From: Dan Liston Organization: iPlanet eCommerce Solutions, A Sun-Netscape Alliance X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.76 [en] (X11; U; Linux 2.2.17-14 i686) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: davea@tecnet1.jcte.jcs.mil Cc: majordomo-users@GreatCircle.COM Subject: Re: MJD 1.94.5 version 2 References: <200102212034.PAA22145@lisa.nawcad.navy.mil> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk Dave, It is not 1.94.5 version 2, it is majordomo 2. This is a complete rewrite and has few if any similarities to 1.94.5. You should be able to find a link to the site by digging through the list archives at greatcircle. Dan Liston davea@tecnet1.jcte.jcs.mil wrote: > > Hi, > > I saw some rumblings about majordomo 1.94.5 version 2. Is this version > available, where can I find it (greatcircle only has 1.94.5), and what are > the adventages? > > Dave Ansalvish From majordomo-users-owner Wed Feb 21 21:51:59 2001 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-980720-1) id VAA29120; Wed, 21 Feb 2001 21:09:25 -0800 (PST) Received: from sonny.org (unknown [205.217.137.8]) by honor.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 890EE17EAF for ; Wed, 21 Feb 2001 21:09:17 -0800 (PST) Received: from netscape.com (citadel.teamp.com [206.81.132.94]) by sonny.org (8.8.8/8.8.3) with ESMTP id XAA11938; Wed, 21 Feb 2001 23:09:21 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <3A949EA6.2747895F@netscape.com> Date: Wed, 21 Feb 2001 23:07:50 -0600 From: Dan Liston Organization: iPlanet eCommerce Solutions, A Sun-Netscape Alliance X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.76 [en] (X11; U; Linux 2.2.17-14 i686) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Robin Sanders Cc: majordomo-users@GreatCircle.COM Subject: Re: Problems posting to THIS list References: <200102220204.VAA10746@math.buffalostate.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk When posting a message that has majordomo command words as part of the first 10 lines of a message, you have to either insert that many blank lines at the beginning of the message, misspell the commands, or start your message with a blank line and a dash at the beginning of a line by itself. For example; - this is the beginning of a message. ... this is the end. TIA This way you can get past all the majordomo parsing commands and post the contents of your email. Dan Liston Robin Sanders wrote: > > Hi y'all, > > I've subscribed to the list. > > I'm trying (desparately) to post a message about a problem > I've been having. In the mail I quote the error message that > is sent to me as the majordomo caretaker when my users try > to get OFF my lists. > > My mail never seems to make it to the list, but it's also > not bounced back to me as undeliverable either. > > Any ideas on how I can get the specifics about the problem > posted so that I can pick your brains about fixing the > problem? > > Robin Sue Sanders From majordomo-users-owner Wed Feb 21 21:58:51 2001 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-980720-1) id VAA29192; Wed, 21 Feb 2001 21:18:02 -0800 (PST) Received: from sonny.org (unknown [205.217.137.8]) by honor.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D957517E8E for ; Wed, 21 Feb 2001 21:17:54 -0800 (PST) Received: from netscape.com (citadel.teamp.com [206.81.132.94]) by sonny.org (8.8.8/8.8.3) with ESMTP id XAA11957; Wed, 21 Feb 2001 23:17:58 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <3A94A0AA.FB7E7A9A@netscape.com> Date: Wed, 21 Feb 2001 23:16:26 -0600 From: Dan Liston Organization: iPlanet eCommerce Solutions, A Sun-Netscape Alliance X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.76 [en] (X11; U; Linux 2.2.17-14 i686) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Clayton Beaudoin Cc: majordomo-users@GreatCircle.COM Subject: Re: poster stuff References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk A gotcha to watch out for, is if you create an alias for the listname-post address, you run the risk of somebody actually posting mail to those users. Do Not Create an Alias for listname-post. Majordomo can administer the list just fine without it. Dan Liston Clayton Beaudoin wrote: > > Thanks a bunch, this is exactly the solution I was looking for. > > Clayton > > -----Original Message----- > From: Dan Liston [mailto:dan.liston@campuspipeline.com]On Behalf Of Dan > Liston > Sent: Wednesday, February 21, 2001 1:01 AM > To: Clayton Beaudoin > Cc: majordomo-users@GreatCircle.COM > Subject: Re: poster stuff > > - > Your restrict_post setting will allow multiple file names. Use one of the > file names (listname) as your first allowed list of posters, and your second > file name (listname-post) separated by colon or space from the first > filename, > be the list of post-but-dont-receive addresses. > > By giving the second list of address the listname-post file name, and > putting > that file in your "lists" directory, you have the ability to manipulate the > members via [un]subscribe commands to majordomo. > > Dan Liston > > Clayton Beaudoin wrote: > > > > Hello all- > > > > I'm new to this list, but have been doing low level majordomo admin for > > about a year now. We host over 500 lists for the northwest conservation > > community. > > > > I have a group that would like to allow members to post to the interactive > > list from multiple email addresses, but only receive postings at one > > account. My solution is to add a posters entry in the restrict-post > setting > > of the config file and include the list roster within the posters file, > > which also includes these additional address that don't actually want to > > receive postings. > > > > To allow the list administrator to continue maintaining the roster > > (receiving postings) as always (they aren't allowed to edit the posters > file > > directly, it goes through me), I'd like make the posters file point back > at > > the roster while including a few additional addresses. > > > > The question is this: Is there any way, via pearl command or majordomo > > pointer, to essentially have the roster file be a subset of the posters > > file? To make the posters file reference the roster? > > > > I may not be explaining this well, please let me know if I can clarify. > > > > Thanks for your help. > > > > Clayton > > > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > > Clayton Beaudoin > > Program Manager-ONE/Northwest > > Online Networking for the Environment - www.onenw.org > > 1080 W. Ewing Place, Suite #301 > > Seattle, WA 98119-1422 > > 206.286.1235 ext. 14 > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > > Subscribe to ONEList, ONE/Northwest's monthly email newsletter about > > using the Internet to protect the environment! > > http://www.onenw.org/onelist/ > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > > > > "We cannot solve the problems that we have created with the same thinking > > that created them." - Albert Einstein -- -- Dan Liston --------------------- dliston@netscape.com -- -- Netscape Consultant ------------------ (214) 906-1675 -- -- iPlanet E-Commerce Solutions, A Sun Netscape Alliance -- From majordomo-users-owner Thu Feb 22 00:35:15 2001 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-980720-1) id AAA01015; Thu, 22 Feb 2001 00:10:37 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail.bigfatpipe.net (sprinkler.bigfatpipe.net [128.241.64.106]) by honor.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3A7BF17E8E for ; Thu, 22 Feb 2001 00:10:30 -0800 (PST) Received: from cra (helo=localhost) by mail.bigfatpipe.net with local-esmtp (Exim 3.22 #1) id 14VqpS-000JPv-00; Thu, 22 Feb 2001 00:10:22 -0800 Date: Thu, 22 Feb 2001 00:10:22 -0800 (PST) From: To: mjn Cc: Subject: Re: Question about resend... In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk On Tue, 20 Feb 2001, mjn wrote: > What I'd like to do is modify resend to look for this footer in the > message body, delete if it finds it, and repaste it at the bottom after > the normal footer. Or merely insert the real footer before the virus > footer... > > Anyone have ideas/suggestions/other thoughts? Is there any way to cause the virus-scanning software to NOT append the footer to the bottom of the message? You could include it in your mailing list footer, following the unsub information. Alternatively, would it be possible to edit the footer information that the Virus scanner appends to accomplish something similar? (This would be dependant on whether you had multiple mailing lists on the server or if so, how detailed you wanted the unsub information to be.) -CA From majordomo-users-owner Thu Feb 22 01:51:13 2001 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-980720-1) id BAA02842; Thu, 22 Feb 2001 01:35:31 -0800 (PST) Received: from second.ival.es (second.ival.es [195.57.183.67]) by honor.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0066E17E8E for ; Thu, 22 Feb 2001 01:35:15 -0800 (PST) Received: from second.ival.es ([195.57.183.68]) by second.ival.es (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA03156 for ; Thu, 22 Feb 2001 11:32:42 +0100 Message-ID: <3A94EB8A.74033336@second.ival.es> Date: Thu, 22 Feb 2001 10:35:55 +0000 From: Marcos X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (X11; I; SunOS 5.5.1 sun4m) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "majordomo-users@GreatCircle.COM" Subject: mj_resend Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk hi, i am running majordom-1.94.4 on RH6.1 how can i manage all aborts from majordomo in order to receive the warning email just the list-owner and not all the list members? it happens on a closed list. thanks in advance, marcos marcos@ival.es From majordomo-users-owner Thu Feb 22 03:20:49 2001 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-980720-1) id DAA03867; Thu, 22 Feb 2001 03:03:28 -0800 (PST) Received: from www.katastro.fi (unknown [195.197.214.126]) by honor.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 230B117E8E for ; Thu, 22 Feb 2001 03:03:18 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (large@localhost) by www.katastro.fi (8.11.0/8.11.0) with ESMTP id f1MB37a10410 for ; Thu, 22 Feb 2001 13:03:09 +0200 (EET) Date: Thu, 22 Feb 2001 13:03:07 +0200 (EET) From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Lassi_Tasaj=E4rvi?= To: majordomo-users@greatcircle.com Subject: text lines as "command not recognized" (fwd) Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: QUOTED-PRINTABLE Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk - Hello how can I save subscribers from getting "majordomo results" message with dozens of "command not recognized" errors? the problem appears when a subscriber replyes the confirmation message, includes the previous message and doesn't remove message lines that come after the "auth" command line.=20 the same problem appears when one uses signed/footed mailsystems to return the auth command line. If there's a lot of text, there's also a "command not recognized" error for each single word. So, how to make majordomo ignore all the other lines except the auth line in the confirmation reply? thank you -Lassi Tasaj=E4rvi From majordomo-users-owner Thu Feb 22 06:34:42 2001 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-980720-1) id GAA07502; Thu, 22 Feb 2001 06:20:29 -0800 (PST) Received: from freaky2000.dyndns.org (9dyn216.breda.casema.net [195.96.116.216]) by honor.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E244817E8E for ; Thu, 22 Feb 2001 06:20:12 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (freaky@localhost) by freaky2000.dyndns.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA13604 for ; Thu, 22 Feb 2001 15:20:55 +0100 Date: Thu, 22 Feb 2001 15:20:54 +0100 (CET) From: Freaked Personality X-Sender: freaky@linux.paddo.trip To: majordomo-users@greatcircle.com Subject: Header Info in email send from Outlook Express gets processed Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: MULTIPART/MIXED; BOUNDARY="8323328-397742746-982851654=:13563" Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk This message is in MIME format. The first part should be readable text, while the remaining parts are likely unreadable without MIME-aware tools. Send mail to mime@docserver.cac.washington.edu for more info. --8323328-397742746-982851654=:13563 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Hey there, when I'm mailing from Outlook Express (which sends html mail by default) the html header info gets processed (see attach). Is there any way to stop this? 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Now when avv@salesint.com tries to send mail to the pricelist@salesint.com address it just gets dropped (when he's mailing from his workstation running windows 98 using outlook express) however when I log in to the linux server as user avv and send mail to pricelist@salesint.com it does get through. Anyone got any idea on how to fix this? Kind regards, Ferry vanSteen From majordomo-users-owner Thu Feb 22 08:48:11 2001 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-980720-1) id IAA08834; Thu, 22 Feb 2001 08:28:10 -0800 (PST) Received: from cypntx.ugsolutions.com (cypntx.ugsolutions.com [134.244.77.102]) by honor.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C6AEB17E8E for ; Thu, 22 Feb 2001 08:28:03 -0800 (PST) Received: by cypntx.ugsolutions.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) id ; Thu, 22 Feb 2001 08:23:00 -0800 Message-ID: From: "Spain, Harrison" To: "'majordomo-users@GreatCircle.com'" Subject: Question on using the "bounce" script Date: Thu, 22 Feb 2001 08:28:02 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk I'm new to majordomo and I'm running V1.94.5 on hp-ux. I've been able to work through all the issues save one :-). How does one go about setting up to use the "bounce" script? I've setup the "bounces" mailing list. I've added the bounces mail list aliases to the /etc/mail/aliases file. I had to edit the bounce-remind script to locate the majordomo.cf file but it appears to run OK and I've added it to cron. I created the .majordomo files in the home directories for majordomo and moderator and my own account. I can run the "bounce" script manually and it does indeed work; I just enter the command "./bounce ". But... how do bounced messages (vs BOUNCE messages) :-) get "fed" to the "bounce" script? I guess I need clarification of the following in the manual: 5. Help list owners set up their accounts with the "bounce" script. Remember that the owners' ".majordomo" files need an entry for the "bounces" list as well as the other lists. Many thanks for such an excellent tool and the massive support via the www! :-) Harrison Spain spain@ugs.com From majordomo-users-owner Thu Feb 22 12:20:38 2001 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-980720-1) id MAA10835; Thu, 22 Feb 2001 12:01:58 -0800 (PST) Received: from patty.nawcad.navy.mil (patty.nawcad.navy.mil [192.58.199.180]) by honor.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 53C7F17E8E for ; Thu, 22 Feb 2001 12:01:52 -0800 (PST) Received: by patty.nawcad.navy.mil; id PAA26803; Thu, 22 Feb 2001 15:01:50 -0500 (EST) From: Message-Id: <200102222001.PAA26803@patty.nawcad.navy.mil> Received: from tecnet1.jcte.jcs.mil(140.229.33.200) by patty.nawcad.navy.mil via smap (V4.2) id xma026607; Thu, 22 Feb 01 15:01:37 -0500 Date: Thu, 22 Feb 01 15:01:30 EDT To: majordomo-users@greatcircle.com Posted: Feb 22 15:01 2001 EST (Feb 22 20:01 ZULU) Subject: path installation problems Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk Hi, I have majordomo 1.94.5 on a Solaris 2.6 box. I downloaded a number of patches from ftp.ccsf.org/majordomo-patches/1.94.5/majordomo.pl. Most of the patch installations went well. But two of them are giving me fits. I'm not a perl person yet, but, this majordomo is making me a fast learner. Can someone explain what is going on with these patches and possible work arounds? I believe I know what needs to be done, I just need some clarification. # patch config_parse.pl < config_parse.pl-resend.1 Looks like a new-style context diff. The next patch looks like a new-style context diff. Hunk #1 failed at line 564. Hunk #2 failed at line 918. 2 out of 2 hunks failed: saving rejects to config_parse.pl.rej #patch majordomo.pl < majordomo.pl.1 Looks like a unified context diff. Hunk #1 failed at line 173. Hunk #2 failed at line 185. 2 out of 2 hunks failed: saving rejects to majordomo.pl.rej I can't seem to find a patch in there anywhere. From majordomo-users-owner Thu Feb 22 20:49:52 2001 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-980720-1) id UAA15636; Thu, 22 Feb 2001 20:36:49 -0800 (PST) Received: from totk.com (unknown [206.67.54.68]) by honor.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3D43517E8E for ; Thu, 22 Feb 2001 20:36:43 -0800 (PST) Received: from rompute [216.80.74.158] by totk.com with ESMTP (SMTPD32-6.03) id A9D48B3029A; Thu, 22 Feb 2001 23:40:52 -0500 From: "TOTK.com Sports" To: Subject: archive question Date: Thu, 22 Feb 2001 22:34:29 -0600 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 In-Reply-To: <200102222001.PAA26803@patty.nawcad.navy.mil> Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk Hello, I want to set up archives of my lists on v1.94.4 on RedHat 6.1 I made a file called test in /var/lib/majordomo/archives/test.archive, owned by majordomo and added this to /etc/aliases: test-archive: "|/usr/lib/majordomo/wrapper archive2.pl -f /var/lib/majordomo/archives/test.archive/test -m -a" What else do I do? Also, how difficult is Wilma to implement? Thanks in advance for any help! ---------- -Ralph From majordomo-users-owner Thu Feb 22 22:16:49 2001 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-980720-1) id VAA16418; Thu, 22 Feb 2001 21:57:06 -0800 (PST) Received: from arm.mrball.net (mrball.net [209.85.130.137]) by honor.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C6D5617E8E for ; Thu, 22 Feb 2001 21:57:00 -0800 (PST) Received: from mrball.net (todd.mrball.net [192.168.18.3]) by arm.mrball.net (8.11.2/8.11.2) with ESMTP id f1N5v4d19393; Thu, 22 Feb 2001 21:57:04 -0800 Message-ID: <3A95FBAE.FDA99E5D@mrball.net> Date: Thu, 22 Feb 2001 21:57:02 -0800 From: Todd Lyons X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (X11; U; Linux 2.2.14-zip i586) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: davea@tecnet1.jcte.jcs.mil Cc: majordomo-users@GreatCircle.COM Subject: Re: path installation problems References: <200102222001.PAA26803@patty.nawcad.navy.mil> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk davea@tecnet1.jcte.jcs.mil wrote: > > Hi, > > I have majordomo 1.94.5 on a Solaris 2.6 box. I downloaded a number of > patches from ftp.ccsf.org/majordomo-patches/1.94.5/majordomo.pl. Most of > the patch installations went well. But two of them are giving me fits. > I'm not a perl person yet, but, this majordomo is making me a fast learner. I'd dare say that most of the patches are designed for virgin majordomo source. Since you've already added/deleted lines with the previous patches, the line numbering is now off, so the latter patches fail. Just a guess. -- Blue skies... Todd | Get a bigger hammer! | Never mind me. I'm speaking out of | | http://www.mrball.net | my /dev/ass anyway. | | http://faq.mrball.net | --Gash Teshome | From majordomo-users-owner Thu Feb 22 22:29:56 2001 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-980720-1) id VAA16399; Thu, 22 Feb 2001 21:55:17 -0800 (PST) Received: from arm.mrball.net (mrball.net [209.85.130.137]) by honor.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4FCCF17E8E for ; Thu, 22 Feb 2001 21:55:12 -0800 (PST) Received: from mrball.net (todd.mrball.net [192.168.18.3]) by arm.mrball.net (8.11.2/8.11.2) with ESMTP id f1N5tGd19388; Thu, 22 Feb 2001 21:55:16 -0800 Message-ID: <3A95FB42.BB010B18@mrball.net> Date: Thu, 22 Feb 2001 21:55:14 -0800 From: Todd Lyons X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (X11; U; Linux 2.2.14-zip i586) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "Simone L. Crider" Cc: majordomo-users@GreatCircle.COM Subject: Re: HOSTILE ADDRESS References: <032501c09ce3$7c6dbe10$a101a8c0@ncddc.noaa.gov> <3A9588D2.FB3118E2@mrball.net> <040301c09d18$cac26f90$a101a8c0@ncddc.noaa.gov> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk "Simone L. Crider" wrote: > requests to majordomo & so far, it's OK. However, I've been looking back > through the archives for the following header that is returned w/ each > request to majordomo, > >>>> This is a multi-part message in MIME format. > **** Command 'this' not recognized. You're sending html messages. Majordomo requires plain text messages. It is possible to get around this using a tool called demime, but it takes a bit of work setting up this tool. I found that it was not an easy task, but I will admit that I learned a GREAT deal about Perl getting demime to work. > > It's a perl script, so you can always browse the source code. Not a > > very good answer in that it depends on your technical savvy, but it is a > > viable option. > Unfortunately, I don't know perl very well, guess now's a good time to learn > more! Neither do I, and yes, now is as good a time as any! -- Blue skies... Todd | Get a bigger hammer! | Never mind me. I'm speaking out of | | http://www.mrball.net | my /dev/ass anyway. | | http://faq.mrball.net | --Gash Teshome | From majordomo-users-owner Fri Feb 23 02:03:50 2001 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-980720-1) id BAA19727; Fri, 23 Feb 2001 01:44:24 -0800 (PST) Received: from freaky2000.dyndns.org (9dyn216.breda.casema.net [195.96.116.216]) by honor.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 898C417E8E for ; Fri, 23 Feb 2001 01:44:01 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (freaky@localhost) by freaky2000.dyndns.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA17875; Fri, 23 Feb 2001 10:44:38 +0100 Date: Fri, 23 Feb 2001 10:44:37 +0100 (CET) From: Freaked Personality X-Sender: freaky@linux.paddo.trip To: Mike Winnett Cc: majordomo-users@GreatCircle.COM Subject: Re: Header Info in email send from Outlook Express gets processed In-Reply-To: <003401c09d61$588120e0$0101a8c0@mesh--computer> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk Heh, I guess there is no way to let majordomo ignore it then? Kind regards, Ferry van Steen On Thu, 22 Feb 2001, Mike Winnett wrote: > Here's the advice I send to the dummies, (sorry, I mean users ;-) on my > lists > > hth > > regards > > mw > > ============================================================== > Outlook Express: > > Select Tools | Mail Options to change settings. There are three > ways to disable the default (Rich Text / HTML) formatting in > Outlook Express Mail. > > 1. In the message window select the "Format" menu and click on "Plain > Text". Click yes on the resulting dialog box.This changes the formatting > only for the current message. > > 2. To permanently change the formatting options click on the "Tools" > menu > in the main Outlook window, and then on "Mail Options". Select Plain > Text > as the Mail sending format and click OK. > > OR > > 3. Go to the Address Book, select the mailing list address, click on > Properties, select "send email using plain text only" > This will change the settings for the list address only, and you can > continue to send html code to everyone else, if you wish. > ----------------------------------------------------------- > In outlook 98, > > Select Tools -> Options > > Click the "Mail Format" tab > > >From the "Message Settings" option, select "Plain Text" from the drop > down box. > > ============================================================= > -----Original Message----- > From: Freaked Personality > To: majordomo-users@GreatCircle.COM > Date: 22 February 2001 18:07 > Subject: Header Info in email send from Outlook Express gets processed > > > >Hey there, > > > >when I'm mailing from Outlook Express (which sends html mail by > >default) the html header info gets processed (see attach). Is there any > >way to stop this? > > > >Kind regards, > > > >Ferry van Steen > > > > > > From majordomo-users-owner Fri Feb 23 07:03:21 2001 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-980720-1) id GAA24178; Fri, 23 Feb 2001 06:42:41 -0800 (PST) Received: from arm.mrball.net (mrball.net [209.85.130.137]) by honor.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A340017E8E for ; Fri, 23 Feb 2001 06:42:35 -0800 (PST) Received: from mrball.net (todd.mrball.net [192.168.18.3]) by arm.mrball.net (8.11.2/8.11.2) with ESMTP id f1NEgVd20477; Fri, 23 Feb 2001 06:42:32 -0800 Message-ID: <3A9676D6.4AB3A299@mrball.net> Date: Fri, 23 Feb 2001 06:42:30 -0800 From: Todd Lyons X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (X11; U; Linux 2.2.14-zip i586) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Freaked Personality Cc: majordomo-users@GreatCircle.COM Subject: Re: Header Info in email send from Outlook Express gets processed References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk Freaked Personality wrote: > > Heh, I guess there is no way to let majordomo ignore it then? No. You do have the option of installing demime to filter it before majordomo receives it. You will learn lots about Perl if you are not already pretty familiar with it. It's a great project to undertake! -- Blue skies... Todd | Get a bigger hammer! | Never mind me. I'm speaking out of | | http://www.mrball.net | my /dev/ass anyway. | | http://faq.mrball.net | --Gash Teshome | From majordomo-users-owner Fri Feb 23 08:47:27 2001 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-980720-1) id IAA25084; Fri, 23 Feb 2001 08:28:10 -0800 (PST) Received: from math.buffalostate.edu (math.buffalostate.edu [136.183.3.170]) by honor.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 05A7A17E8E for ; Fri, 23 Feb 2001 08:28:01 -0800 (PST) Received: (from sanders@localhost) by math.buffalostate.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) id MAA13489; Fri, 23 Feb 2001 12:28:46 -0500 Date: Fri, 23 Feb 2001 12:28:46 -0500 From: Robin Sanders Message-Id: <200102231728.MAA13489@math.buffalostate.edu> To: majordomo-users@GreatCircle.com Subject: Users can't get OFF my l*sts Cc: sanders@math.buffalostate.edu Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk -- Hi y'all, First, thanks to the helpful souls who let me know how to post this. I'm using majordomo 1.94.5 on a RedHat 6.2 system to manage a small number of departmental lists. My students and faculty members can subscribe and post to the lists without any problem. But everytime someone attempts to "unsubscribe" to a list, I get the following error message bounced back to my account (as the majordomo caretaker): > > MAJORDOMO ABORT (mj_majordomo)!! > > chown(851, 12, "/usr/local/majordomo-1.94.5/lists/mat164.new"): Operation not permitted > Any ideas on what this means? This happens even when there is no *.new or L.* file in my lists directory. Any ideas on how to fix the problem? By the way, majordomo has UID 851 and the group "mail" has GID 12. Thanks in advance for any help you can give me. Robin Sue Sanders Associate Professor and part-time sys adm mail: Mathematics Department Buffalo State College 1300 Elmwood Ave. Buffalo, NY 14222 email: sanders@math.buffalostate.edu phone: (716) 878-6506 From majordomo-users-owner Fri Feb 23 11:19:31 2001 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-980720-1) id LAA26511; Fri, 23 Feb 2001 11:07:12 -0800 (PST) Received: from math.buffalostate.edu (math.buffalostate.edu [136.183.3.170]) by honor.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id AE7FE17E8E for ; Fri, 23 Feb 2001 11:07:04 -0800 (PST) Received: (from sanders@localhost) by math.buffalostate.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) id PAA14156 for majordomo-users@GreatCircle.com; Fri, 23 Feb 2001 15:07:45 -0500 Date: Fri, 23 Feb 2001 15:07:45 -0500 From: Robin Sanders Message-Id: <200102232007.PAA14156@math.buffalostate.edu> To: majordomo-users@GreatCircle.com Subject: People can't get OFF my l*sts Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk -- Hi y'all, First, thanks to the helpful souls who let me know how to post this. I'm using majordomo 1.94.5 on a RedHat 6.2 system to manage a small number of departmental lists. My students and faculty members can s_bscribe and post to the lists without any problem. But everytime someone attempts to "uns_bscribe" to a list, I get the following error message bounced back to my account (as the majordomo caretaker): > > MAJORDOMO ABORT (mj_majordomo)!! > > chown(851, 12, "/usr/local/majordomo-1.94.5/lists/mat164.new"): Operation not permitted > Any ideas on what this means? This happens even when there is no *.new or L.* file in my lists directory. Any ideas on how to fix the problem? By the way, majordomo has UID 851 and the group "mail" has GID 12. Thanks in advance for any help you can give me. Robin Sue Sanders Associate Professor and part-time sys adm mail: Mathematics Department Buffalo State College 1300 Elmwood Ave. Buffalo, NY 14222 email: sanders@math.buffalostate.edu phone: (716) 878-6506 From majordomo-users-owner Fri Feb 23 12:18:36 2001 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-980720-1) id MAA27022; Fri, 23 Feb 2001 12:06:37 -0800 (PST) Received: from garnet.tc.umn.edu (garnet.tc.umn.edu [160.94.218.249]) by honor.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7F1A217E8E for ; Fri, 23 Feb 2001 12:06:31 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost by garnet.tc.umn.edu with ESMTP; Fri, 23 Feb 2001 14:06:37 -0600 Date: Fri, 23 Feb 2001 14:06:37 -0600 (CST) From: mjn X-Sender: mjn@garnet.tc.umn.edu To: Robin Sanders Cc: majordomo-users@GreatCircle.COM Subject: Re: People can't get OFF my l*sts In-Reply-To: <200102232007.PAA14156@math.buffalostate.edu> Message-Id: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk As of Feb 23, 2001, Robin Sanders can be held liable for saying: > First, thanks to the helpful souls who let me know how to > post this. > > I'm using majordomo 1.94.5 on a RedHat 6.2 system to manage a > small number of departmental lists. My students and faculty > members can s_bscribe and post to the lists without any > problem. > > But everytime someone attempts to "uns_bscribe" to a list, I > get the following error message bounced back to my account > (as the majordomo caretaker): > > > > > MAJORDOMO ABORT (mj_majordomo)!! > > > > chown(851, 12, "/usr/local/majordomo-1.94.5/lists/mat164.new"): Operation not permitted > > > > Any ideas on what this means? This happens even when there is no > *.new or L.* file in my lists directory. > > Any ideas on how to fix the problem? > > By the way, majordomo has UID 851 and the group "mail" has GID 12. > Robin- Is /usr/local/majordomo-1.94.5/lists owned by the majordomo user? Looks to me like majordomo does not have create/write permissions in your lists directory... ____________________________ Mike Neuharth ADCS Technology Specialist http://www.umn.edu/adcs E-Mail : mjn@umn.edu Page Mail : 6126486512@page.metrocall.com http://supermonkeycollider.dyndns.org/ ____________________________ From majordomo-users-owner Fri Feb 23 15:05:04 2001 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-980720-1) id OAA28490; Fri, 23 Feb 2001 14:46:39 -0800 (PST) Received: from pali.cps.cmich.edu (pali.cps.cmich.edu [141.209.131.81]) by honor.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6715F17E8E for ; Fri, 23 Feb 2001 14:46:33 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (ishwar@localhost) by pali.cps.cmich.edu (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f1NMlGi00374; Fri, 23 Feb 2001 17:47:16 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from ishwar@pali.cps.cmich.edu) Date: Fri, 23 Feb 2001 17:47:16 -0500 (EST) From: Ish Rattan To: Robin Sanders Cc: majordomo-users@GreatCircle.COM Subject: Re: People can't get OFF my l*sts In-Reply-To: <200102232007.PAA14156@math.buffalostate.edu> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk On Fri, 23 Feb 2001, Robin Sanders wrote: > -- > > Hi y'all, > > First, thanks to the helpful souls who let me know how to > post this. > > I'm using majordomo 1.94.5 on a RedHat 6.2 system to manage a > small number of departmental lists. My students and faculty > members can s_bscribe and post to the lists without any > problem. > > But everytime someone attempts to "uns_bscribe" to a list, I > get the following error message bounced back to my account > (as the majordomo caretaker): > > > > > MAJORDOMO ABORT (mj_majordomo)!! > > > > chown(851, 12, "/usr/local/majordomo-1.94.5/lists/mat164.new"): Operation not permitted What are the permissiosn on this path? > By the way, majordomo has UID 851 and the group "mail" has GID 12. Isn't majordomo user has to have its own group ? From majordomo-users-owner Fri Feb 23 15:19:14 2001 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-980720-1) id PAA28837; Fri, 23 Feb 2001 15:02:23 -0800 (PST) Received: from ljcqs016.cnf.com (mailhost.cnf.com [63.230.177.14]) by honor.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D29A017E8E for ; Fri, 23 Feb 2001 15:02:17 -0800 (PST) Received: from cnfqs041.cnf.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ljcqs016.cnf.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA09267 for ; Fri, 23 Feb 2001 15:02:23 -0800 (PST) Received: by bu-cnfqs041.cnf.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id ; Fri, 23 Feb 2001 15:02:24 -0800 Message-ID: <7B73D5F649D0D311B1E30008C7A4D92A07D5FE3F@cnfqs029.cnf.com> From: "Higdon, David M - CNF" To: majordomo-users@GreatCircle.COM Subject: Unable to create new list using MajorCool Date: Fri, 23 Feb 2001 15:01:40 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk Hello all! I am unable to create a new using the MajorCool web browser interface. Anyone else have a problem creating lists? Everything appeared to install correctly in regards to MajorCool. Majordomo has been up and running for about a month now. Any feed back would be great. Stats: OS Solaris 2.6 Majordomo 1.94.5 MajorCool 1.3.2 Netscape 4.73 Explorer 5.0 Thank you, David Higdon From majordomo-users-owner Fri Feb 23 17:19:38 2001 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-980720-1) id RAA29949; Fri, 23 Feb 2001 17:04:30 -0800 (PST) Received: from moutvdom01.kundenserver.de (moutvdom01.kundenserver.de [195.20.224.200]) by honor.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C616317E8E for ; Fri, 23 Feb 2001 17:04:23 -0800 (PST) Received: from [195.20.224.219] (helo=mrvdom03.kundenserver.de) by moutvdom01.kundenserver.de with esmtp (Exim 2.12 #2) id 14WT8G-0004iA-00 for Majordomo-Users@greatcircle.com; Sat, 24 Feb 2001 02:04:20 +0100 Received: from pd9054f09.dip.t-dialin.net ([217.5.79.9]) by mrvdom03.kundenserver.de with esmtp (Exim 2.12 #2) id 14WT8O-0003v2-00 for Majordomo-Users@GreatCircle.COM; Sat, 24 Feb 2001 02:04:28 +0100 From: Ralf Semroch To: Majordomo-Users@GreatCircle.COM Subject: Every mail will be send three times... Date: Sat, 24 Feb 2001 02:07:22 +0100 Organization: design of sites Message-ID: X-Mailer: Forte Agent 1.8/32.548 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk Hello, I am a list-owner of a german dreamweaver-mailinglist and since two days every mail sent to the list gets in there three times... This is a mail I've gotten after sending a testmail...: To: To: postmaster@milestone2.prohost.de Subject: Returned mail: Too many hops 18 (17 max): from via natmail2.webmailer.de, to =46rom: Mail Delivery Subsystem Date: Sat, 24 Feb 2001 01:52:58 +0100 The original message was received at Sat, 24 Feb 2001 01:52:57 +0100 from natmail2.webmailer.de [192.67.198.65] ----- The following addresses had permanent fatal errors ----- "|/usr/local/majordomo/wrapper resend -p Bulk -l dreamweaver -I dreamweaver -f listowner@dreamweaver-mailingliste.de -h dreamweaver-mailingliste.de -s dreamweaver-list" (expanded from: ) ----- Transcript of session follows ----- Message delivered to mailing list 554 Too many hops 18 (17 max): from via natmail2.webmailer.de, to =46inal-Recipient: RFC822; Action: delivered (to mailing list) Status: 5.4.6 Last-Attempt-Date: Sat, 24 Feb 2001 01:52:58 +0100 =46inal-Recipient: RFC822; X-Actual-Recipient: RFC822; "|/usr/local/majordomo/wrapper resend -p Bulk -l dreamweaver -I dreamweaver -f listowner@dreamweaver-mailingliste.de -h dreamweaver-mailingliste.de -s dreamweaver-list" Action: failed Status: 5.0.0 Last-Attempt-Date: Sat, 24 Feb 2001 01:52:58 +0100 Could someone please help me? Thank you, Ralf --=20 ralf semroch . semroch@designofsites.de . icq: 76557479 http://www.designofsites.de . http://www.flash5-center.de http://www.fireworks-center.de . http://www.dreamweaver-center.de http://www.photoshop-center.de . http://www.search4singles.de From majordomo-users-owner Fri Feb 23 17:34:56 2001 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-980720-1) id RAA00260; Fri, 23 Feb 2001 17:22:54 -0800 (PST) Received: from smtp4.netcommanders.net (254-186-179-208.netcommanders.net [208.179.186.254]) by honor.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with SMTP id 53F4917E8E for ; Fri, 23 Feb 2001 17:22:48 -0800 (PST) Received: (qmail 20547 invoked from network); 24 Feb 2001 01:21:55 -0000 Received: from 2-186-179-208.netcommanders.net (HELO james) (208.179.186.2) by 170-186-179-208.netcommanders.net with SMTP; 24 Feb 2001 01:21:55 -0000 Message-ID: <00b101c09dff$3f0530e0$4a00a8c0@james> From: "James Stevens" To: Cc: Subject: Fw: People can't get OFF my l*sts Date: Fri, 23 Feb 2001 17:15:16 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk Oh yeah .. Shouldn't be a big deal but I threw another line in my fix-lists file which makes sure the lists have the correct mode set on them. I've never had a problem with this but I didn't want to receive a phone call during the weekend so you might want to consider putting it in also. chmod 644 /usr/majordomo-1.94.5/lists/* /usr/majordomo-1.94.5/digest/* --JT ----- Original Message ----- From: "mjn" To: "Robin Sanders" Cc: Sent: Friday, February 23, 2001 12:06 PM Subject: Re: People can't get OFF my l*sts As of Feb 23, 2001, Robin Sanders can be held liable for saying: > First, thanks to the helpful souls who let me know how to > post this. > > I'm using majordomo 1.94.5 on a RedHat 6.2 system to manage a > small number of departmental lists. My students and faculty > members can s_bscribe and post to the lists without any > problem. > > But everytime someone attempts to "uns_bscribe" to a list, I > get the following error message bounced back to my account > (as the majordomo caretaker): > > > > > MAJORDOMO ABORT (mj_majordomo)!! > > > > chown(851, 12, "/usr/local/majordomo-1.94.5/lists/mat164.new"): Operation not permitted > > > > Any ideas on what this means? This happens even when there is no > *.new or L.* file in my lists directory. > > Any ideas on how to fix the problem? > > By the way, majordomo has UID 851 and the group "mail" has GID 12. > Robin- Is /usr/local/majordomo-1.94.5/lists owned by the majordomo user? Looks to me like majordomo does not have create/write permissions in your lists directory... ____________________________ Mike Neuharth ADCS Technology Specialist http://www.umn.edu/adcs E-Mail : mjn@umn.edu Page Mail : 6126486512@page.metrocall.com http://supermonkeycollider.dyndns.org/ ____________________________ From majordomo-users-owner Fri Feb 23 17:49:10 2001 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-980720-1) id RAA00254; Fri, 23 Feb 2001 17:22:35 -0800 (PST) Received: from smtp4.netcommanders.net (254-186-179-208.netcommanders.net [208.179.186.254]) by honor.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with SMTP id 93A6117E8E for ; Fri, 23 Feb 2001 17:22:29 -0800 (PST) Received: (qmail 20540 invoked from network); 24 Feb 2001 01:21:35 -0000 Received: from 2-186-179-208.netcommanders.net (HELO james) (208.179.186.2) by 170-186-179-208.netcommanders.net with SMTP; 24 Feb 2001 01:21:35 -0000 Message-ID: <00ad01c09dff$33350d30$4a00a8c0@james> From: "James Stevens" To: Cc: Subject: Fw: People can't get OFF my l*sts Date: Fri, 23 Feb 2001 17:14:49 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk I experienced the same problems with our majordomo here. Problem was there's about 20 list administrators who access the lists directly via telnet.. Problem is when they save the file after adding or delting the ownerships would be wrong and then majordomo would abort because it did not have ownership of the file. I got around this by making a script that basically chown's the list directory every 5 minutes.. My fix-lists file (make sure you chmod 755 it) I put it under /usr/majordomo-1.94.5/bin you can put it where ever you want just make sure you call it out right in the crontab file. (Also note to place YOUR corect user and group in place of majordom.nofiles) # ! /bin/sh - chown -R majordom.nofiles /usr/majordomo-1.94.5/lists Then I setup my crontab file to run that script every 5 minutes as root. You can find the crontab file under /etc I might be off a * though as I'm speed typing this. 5/* * * * * root /usr/majordomo-1.94.5/bin/fix-lists If you don't want a message from your server every 5 minutes that it's executed the script then just leave the root off the abouve example. It will still chown the directory but won't send you an email every 5 minutes. --JT ----- Original Message ----- From: "mjn" To: "Robin Sanders" Cc: Sent: Friday, February 23, 2001 12:06 PM Subject: Re: People can't get OFF my l*sts As of Feb 23, 2001, Robin Sanders can be held liable for saying: > First, thanks to the helpful souls who let me know how to > post this. > > I'm using majordomo 1.94.5 on a RedHat 6.2 system to manage a > small number of departmental lists. My students and faculty > members can s_bscribe and post to the lists without any > problem. > > But everytime someone attempts to "uns_bscribe" to a list, I > get the following error message bounced back to my account > (as the majordomo caretaker): > > > > > MAJORDOMO ABORT (mj_majordomo)!! > > > > chown(851, 12, "/usr/local/majordomo-1.94.5/lists/mat164.new"): Operation not permitted > > > > Any ideas on what this means? This happens even when there is no > *.new or L.* file in my lists directory. > > Any ideas on how to fix the problem? > > By the way, majordomo has UID 851 and the group "mail" has GID 12. > Robin- Is /usr/local/majordomo-1.94.5/lists owned by the majordomo user? Looks to me like majordomo does not have create/write permissions in your lists directory... ____________________________ Mike Neuharth ADCS Technology Specialist http://www.umn.edu/adcs E-Mail : mjn@umn.edu Page Mail : 6126486512@page.metrocall.com http://supermonkeycollider.dyndns.org/ ____________________________ From majordomo-users-owner Fri Feb 23 18:33:46 2001 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-980720-1) id SAA00673; Fri, 23 Feb 2001 18:10:44 -0800 (PST) Received: from pali.cps.cmich.edu (pali.cps.cmich.edu [141.209.131.81]) by honor.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5DC3717E8E for ; Fri, 23 Feb 2001 18:10:38 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (ishwar@localhost) by pali.cps.cmich.edu (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f1O2BLx00618; Fri, 23 Feb 2001 21:11:21 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from ishwar@pali.cps.cmich.edu) Date: Fri, 23 Feb 2001 21:11:21 -0500 (EST) From: Ish Rattan To: Robin Sanders Cc: majordomo-users@GreatCircle.com Subject: Re: People can't get OFF my l*sts In-Reply-To: <200102240037.TAA15261@math.buffalostate.edu> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk On Fri, 23 Feb 2001, Robin Sanders wrote: > > - > > I wrote: > > > But everytime someone attempts to "uns_bscribe" to a list, I > > get the following error message bounced back to my account > > (as the majordomo caretaker): > > > > > > > > MAJORDOMO ABORT (mj_majordomo)!! > > > > > > chown(851, 12, "/usr/local/majordomo-1.94.5/lists/mat164.new"): Operation not permitted > > and ishwar@pali.cps.cmich.edu responded: > > > What are the permissiosn on this path? > > > > > By the way, majordomo has UID 851 and the group "mail" has GID 12. > > > > Isn't majordomo user has to have its own group ? > > The user is majordomo and the GID is 12 for the path. Both the > user and group have rwx on both the majordomo-1.94.5 and lists > directories. > > In RedHat Unix every user (including majordomo) does have its > own singleton group---the group "majordomo" has GID 852, but you > can put users in multiple groups. If I make the "group" of > the lists directory 852, then I get a different set of MAJORDOMO ABORT This is the problem.. > messages whenever anyone tries to do anything with my mailing lists. > > I'm now beginning to wonder if this is some kind of a weird > problem with my system's chown. But I can't figure out which > "user" (mail or majordomo) is attempting to do the chown command > or why a chown command is being done. > > Additonal information: The file mat164.new is NOT present in the > lists directory before someone tries to unsubscribe; once it's > created an "ls -l" shows that the file is owned by "mail (UID 8)" > with group set to "mail (GID 12)." The permissions on the file > are rwxrwxr-- and "majordomo" is part of the group "mail". The file should be owned by majordomo In worst case scenario you can get the original majordomo instead of using the rpm (never had success with it), also it is possible to delete member manually (may be they can send unsubscribe requests to list).. From majordomo-users-owner Fri Feb 23 23:59:15 2001 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-980720-1) id XAA03966; Fri, 23 Feb 2001 23:53:32 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail.campuspipeline.com (unknown [206.81.132.105]) by honor.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4537517E8E for ; Fri, 23 Feb 2001 23:53:26 -0800 (PST) Received: from netscape.com ([205.217.137.70]) by mail.campuspipeline.com (Netscape Messaging Server 4.15) with ESMTP id G994KB00.2B3; Sat, 24 Feb 2001 00:52:59 -0700 Message-ID: <3A976836.7BCBDEF2@netscape.com> Date: Sat, 24 Feb 2001 01:52:22 -0600 From: Dan Liston Organization: iPlanet eCommerce Solutions, A Sun-Netscape Alliance X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.76 [en] (X11; U; Linux 2.2.17-14 i686) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Marcos Cc: "majordomo-users@GreatCircle.COM" Subject: Re: mj_resend References: <3A94EB8A.74033336@second.ival.es> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk Aborts should only be going to your majordomo-owner. What do your aliases for your closed list look like? Who does your list send messages as? Is you list moderator defined? (even if the list is not moderated) Dan Liston > i am running majordom-1.94.4 on RH6.1 > how can i manage all aborts from majordomo in order to receive the > warning email just the list-owner and not all the list members? > it happens on a closed list. From majordomo-users-owner Sat Feb 24 11:01:56 2001 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-980720-1) id KAA12535; Sat, 24 Feb 2001 10:40:05 -0800 (PST) Received: from moutvdom01.kundenserver.de (moutvdom01.kundenserver.de [195.20.224.200]) by honor.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3AA9217E8E for ; Sat, 24 Feb 2001 10:39:57 -0800 (PST) Received: from [195.20.224.204] (helo=mrvdom00.kundenserver.de) by moutvdom01.kundenserver.de with esmtp (Exim 2.12 #2) id 14Wjbn-0005bK-00 for majordomo-users@greatcircle.com; Sat, 24 Feb 2001 19:39:55 +0100 Received: from p3ee260f3.dip.t-dialin.net ([62.226.96.243]) by mrvdom00.kundenserver.de with esmtp (Exim 2.12 #2) id 14WjbQ-0005Vu-00 for majordomo-users@GreatCircle.COM; Sat, 24 Feb 2001 19:39:32 +0100 From: Ralf Semroch To: majordomo-users@GreatCircle.COM Subject: Problems with MJ-mailinglist (Pt. II) Date: Sat, 24 Feb 2001 19:42:29 +0100 Organization: design of sites Message-ID: <710g9tc0mv9mt8fte8786nn80jmgiisjto@4ax.com> X-Mailer: Forte Agent 1.8/32.548 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk Hello, me again... :-(( What does this mean? ----- The following addresses had permanent fatal errors ----- "|/usr/local/majordomo/wrapper resend -p Bulk -l dreamweaver -I dreamweaver -f listowner@dreamweaver-mailingliste.de -h dreamweaver-mailingliste.de -s dreamweaver-list" (expanded from: ) ??? Thanks, Ralf --=20 ralf semroch . semroch@designofsites.de . icq: 76557479 http://www.designofsites.de . http://www.flash5-center.de http://www.fireworks-center.de . http://www.dreamweaver-center.de http://www.photoshop-center.de . http://www.search4singles.de From majordomo-users-owner Sat Feb 24 14:17:40 2001 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-980720-1) id OAA14157; Sat, 24 Feb 2001 14:07:49 -0800 (PST) Received: from moutvdom00.kundenserver.de (moutvdom00.kundenserver.de [195.20.224.149]) by honor.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8976E17E8E for ; Sat, 24 Feb 2001 14:07:42 -0800 (PST) Received: from [195.20.224.208] (helo=mrvdom01.schlund.de) by moutvdom00.kundenserver.de with esmtp (Exim 2.12 #2) id 14Wmqw-0006wz-00; Sat, 24 Feb 2001 23:07:46 +0100 Received: from pd9054f06.dip.t-dialin.net ([217.5.79.6]) by mrvdom01.schlund.de with esmtp (Exim 2.12 #2) id 14Wmqt-0005sC-00; Sat, 24 Feb 2001 23:07:44 +0100 From: Ralf Semroch To: cnorman@best.com Cc: Majordomo-Users@GreatCircle.COM Subject: Re: Every mail will be send three times... Date: Sat, 24 Feb 2001 23:10:40 +0100 Organization: design of sites Message-ID: <26cg9t8amcaitub3dq5b3v1k40eaveakfu@4ax.com> References: <200102242159.NAA27978@shell7.ba.best.com> In-Reply-To: <200102242159.NAA27978@shell7.ba.best.com> X-Mailer: Forte Agent 1.8/32.548 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk Hi Cindy, On Sat, 24 Feb 2001 13:59:35 -0800 (PST), you wrote: >Yes, I have the same problem, or at least it looks the same to my = untrained >eye. I have a workaround but no fix. I would really like to have a fix >for it if anyone knows of one. we've solved the problem. It was an emailadress of one user that bounced (or something like that) the mails three time back to the list. I 've unsubscribed hin and everything worked fine again... Thanks for your help, Ralf --=20 ralf semroch . semroch@designofsites.de . icq: 76557479 http://www.designofsites.de . http://www.flash5-center.de http://www.fireworks-center.de . http://www.dreamweaver-center.de http://www.photoshop-center.de . http://www.search4singles.de From majordomo-users-owner Sat Feb 24 14:32:03 2001 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-980720-1) id NAA14054; Sat, 24 Feb 2001 13:59:37 -0800 (PST) Received: from shell7.ba.best.com (shell7.ba.best.com [206.184.139.138]) by honor.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C71DF17E8E for ; Sat, 24 Feb 2001 13:59:30 -0800 (PST) Received: (from cnorman@localhost) by shell7.ba.best.com (8.9.3/8.9.2/best.sh) id NAA27978; Sat, 24 Feb 2001 13:59:35 -0800 (PST) Date: Sat, 24 Feb 2001 13:59:35 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <200102242159.NAA27978@shell7.ba.best.com> From: Cyndi Norman To: semroch@designofsites.de Cc: Majordomo-Users@GreatCircle.COM, cnorman@best.com In-reply-to: (message from Ralf Semroch on Sat, 24 Feb 2001 02:07:22 +0100) Subject: Re: Every mail will be send three times... Reply-To: cnorman@best.com Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk From: Ralf Semroch Date: Sat, 24 Feb 2001 02:07:22 +0100 Message delivered to mailing list 554 Too many hops 18 (17 max): from via natmail2.webmailer.de, to Yes, I have the same problem, or at least it looks the same to my untrained eye. I have a workaround but no fix. I would really like to have a fix for it if anyone knows of one. First of all, I'm making an assumption based on what I'm seeing. If this is wrong, then ignore everything else I say here :-). I'm assuming that you have md installed on a particular server (or you use md someone else has installed on their server) but you have an alias set up so that your subscribers can use the listname dreamweaver@dreamweaver-mailingliste.de. In other words, majordomo isn't at dreamweaver-mailingliste.de. Is this correct? A friend has md set up for me at balaca.com. But I have a procmail alias set up so they can email immune@immuneweb.org and have it forward to immune@balaca.com. I've tried this with immune, my moderated list, and other lists which are not moderated. With an unmoderated list, I get the too many hops problem. The email that comes back to me at immuneweb.org is an error message. I never see the actual post. The post gets processed and sent to other subscribers on the list. They end up with two copies. The first is just fine. The second is fine except that the footer I have attached to the bottom of every message is duplicated. Digest readers get a digest with every post that appeared in the non-digest readers mailboxes. This includes duplicates and the extra footers. I have no found any way to fix this problem with an unmoderated list. My subscribers must post to listname@balaca.com. With a moderated list, things get a bit weirder. Best.com adds a header called X-Rcpt-To: to any email sent to a domain name hosted at best.com. It's actually extremely useful for sorting and for telling where the email was sent to if the sender used bcc. I don't know if the existance of this header is helping me by telling me more of what is going on or if it is part of the cause of my problems. When a message comes in for moderator approval, it has the header: X-Rcpt-To: immune@immuneweb.org When I send the message to md for approval, I have to take care to remove that header. If I remove it, everything works fine and I get a single perfect post in every mailbox. If I fail to remove it, every mailbox but mine gets a single post. My mailbox at immuneweb.org gets another moderation request. The text of the post is the same but the headers are duplicated and there is a footer at the bottom (meaning the message already went through the list). I don't know if this is helpful to you or not but maybe someone else can give a better explanation that will solve both our problems. Good luck, Cyndi -- _______________________________________________________________________________ "There's nothing wrong with me. Maybe there's Cyndi Norman something wrong with the universe." (ST:TNG) cyndi@consultclarity.com http://www.tikvah.com/ _________________ Owner of the Immune Website & Lists http://www.immuneweb.org/ From majordomo-users-owner Sat Feb 24 18:17:05 2001 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-980720-1) id SAA16185; Sat, 24 Feb 2001 18:00:52 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail.naisp.net (mail.naisp.net [216.129.152.3]) by honor.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 07D0717E8E for ; Sat, 24 Feb 2001 18:00:46 -0800 (PST) Received: from naisp.net (5812-001-229.024.popsite.net [66.19.1.229]) by mail.naisp.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id VAA04922 for ; Sat, 24 Feb 2001 21:00:40 -0500 Message-ID: <3A97BE29.677155B7@naisp.net> Date: Sat, 24 Feb 2001 08:59:05 -0500 From: KompuKit Organization: KompuKit X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.75 [en] (X11; U; Linux 2.2.17-21mdk i586) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 Cc: majordomo-users@GreatCircle.COM Subject: Re: setup help References: <3A855EF2.D4CD000@naisp.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk KompuKit wrote: > > I've got Majordomo 1.94.4-8.i386.rpm installed on Mandrake 7.2 > along with Sendmail 8.9.3 > > I created a list called : mandrakeusers > I use webmin to manage it... > > I just got the following error back when testing it... > how do I fix this? Check to see if your aliases file (usually located in /etc/mail) is setup. It should have something like: owner-mandrakeusers: kompukit@naisp.net,nobody mandrakeusers: "|/path/to/wrapper resend @/path/to/lists/lists/mandrakeusers.resend" mandrakeusers-approval: owner-mandrakeusers mandrakeusers-itdo: :include:/path/to/lists/lists/mandrakeusers,mandrakeusers-archive owner-mandrakeusers-itdo: owner-mandrakeusers mandrakeusers-request: "/path/to/wrapper request-answer mandrakeusers" owner-mandrakeusers-request: owner-mandrakeusers mandrakeusers-archive: "|/path/to/wrapper archive -f /path/to/lists/archives/mandrakeusers.archive/ mandrakeusers -m -a" Make sure that paths are correct and that you run newaliases (successfully) after you've modified the aliases file. In my experience, majordomo and sendmail offer some of the biggest challenges to configurations (compared to things like apache, postgres, mhonarc, 1/2 a million public-domain cgi-perl scripts. It takes a bit of time, but majordomo does work, and very well. -- Max Pyziur BRAMA - Gateway Ukraine pyz@brama.com http://www.brama.com/ > The original message was received at Sat, 10 Feb 2001 22:27:24 -0500 > from 5812-001-229.024.popsite.net [66.19.1.229] > > ----- The following addresses had permanent fatal errors ----- > > > ----- Transcript of session follows ----- > ... while talking to kompukit.dyndns.org.: > >>> RCPT To: > <<< 550 ... User unknown > 550 ... User unknown > > ----- Original message follows ----- > > Return-Path: > Received: from naisp.net (5812-001-229.024.popsite.net [66.19.1.229]) > by mail.naisp.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id WAA05118 > for ; Sat, 10 Feb 2001 > 22:27:24 -0500 > Sender: kit > Message-ID: <3A855D6E.FF40628B@naisp.net> > Date: Sat, 10 Feb 2001 10:25:34 -0500 > From: KompuKit > Organization: KompuKit > X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.75 [en] (X11; U; Linux 2.2.17-21mdk i586) > X-Accept-Language: en > MIME-Version: 1.0 > To: MandrakeUsers > Subject: test > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii > Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > > test > -- > Registered Linux User: 167369 > <============= http://www.kompukit.com =============> > kit@kompukit.com ICQ# 7110071 > Personal WebServer: http://kompukit.dyndns.org > WebDesigner: http://www.kompukit.com/kitdesigns > (Personal Server runs: M-F= 7pm-12am & S+S=12pm-12am) From majordomo-users-owner Tue Feb 27 20:40:30 2001 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-980720-1) id UAA01535; Tue, 27 Feb 2001 20:19:24 -0800 (PST) Received: from barry.mail.mindspring.net (barry.mail.mindspring.net [207.69.200.25]) by honor.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 479C417E8B for ; Tue, 27 Feb 2001 20:19:17 -0800 (PST) Received: from b (bstnma1-ar1-188-012.dsl.gtei.net [4.3.188.12]) by barry.mail.mindspring.net (8.9.3/8.8.5) with ESMTP id XAA24192 for ; Tue, 27 Feb 2001 23:19:24 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <200102280419.XAA24192@barry.mail.mindspring.net> From: "Tom Rawson" To: majordomo-users@GreatCircle.COM Date: Tue, 27 Feb 2001 23:17:03 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Subject: Virtual Hosting, Modifying Wrapper X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Win32 (v3.12b) Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk I am virtually hosting a couple of domains under a master (ie all at the same IP). Two virtually hosted domains use majordomo lists (1.94.4, I have 1.94.5 source as well). I would like to separate them so they use different config files, principally to set $whereami differently so that things end up at the right domain. I know I can specify a different config file on the resend command line but this does not seem sufficient as part of the problem is that majordomo's responses to the various list owners are not always going to the right domain. I can see a number of ways to address this if I recompile wrapper, but I'd like to know if there is a simpler method. Also, if there is not ... I have some problems with recompiling wrapper. The version of wrapper currently in use on my system, provided by the ISP and in use with 1.94.4, is about 1K long, which makes sense given the 1.94.5 wrapper source I've looked at. It's not a complex program. However when I compile with the 1.94.5 source just as a test I get a 58K file! I'm a C programmer and I can go generate maps and dig into this, but I'm not familiar with gcc and I thought maybe someone knew of a quick explanation. Presumably the link is pulling in something I don't need, and/or the compiler is generating debug info by default (though that seems unlikely). I'm on BSDI 3.1 and the installed compiler is gcc 1.42. Thanks for any tips. ---------- Tom Rawson trawson@jpsoft.com JP Software Inc. http://www.jpsoft.com/ From majordomo-users-owner Tue Feb 27 20:55:41 2001 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-980720-1) id UAA01478; Tue, 27 Feb 2001 20:11:10 -0800 (PST) Received: from smtp01.fields.gol.com (smtp01.fields.gol.com [203.216.5.131]) by honor.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D2EB217E8B for ; Tue, 27 Feb 2001 20:11:03 -0800 (PST) Received: from yamame.gol.ad.jp ([203.216.0.50]) by smtp01.fields.gol.com with esmtp (Magnetic Fields) id 14XxxJ-00065z-00 for ; Wed, 28 Feb 2001 13:11:13 +0900 Received: (from byrnej@localhost) by yamame.gol.ad.jp (8.11.0/8.11.0) id f1S4Cwf01657 for majordomo-users@greatcircle.com; Wed, 28 Feb 2001 13:12:58 +0900 Date: Wed, 28 Feb 2001 13:12:58 +0900 From: Jonathan Byrne To: majordomo-users@greatcircle.com Subject: Broken pipes w/sendmail 8.11.1 on FreeBSD 4.2 Message-ID: <20010228131258.E1519@gol.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0.1i-jp0 X-Abuse-Complaints: abuse@gol.com Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk Possibly more related to sendmail than majordomo, but I'll give it a try. I recently migrated our ml from and older OpenBSD machine to a FreeBSD 4.2 machine running Sendmail 8.11.1 and am encountering a problem with addresses for which there is neither an MX record nor an A record. Bulkmailer hands off a bundle of mails to sendmail, and if that bundle contains such an address, it fails to delivery every other address in that bundle, and may abort the list run altogether. Here's a maillog sample: Feb 27 16:46:43 ml sendmail[16560]: f1R7hqD16560: SYSERR: putoutmsg (localhost): error on output channel sending "450 4.7.1 ... Can not check MX records f or recipient host liptinfor.bf": Broken pipe Feb 27 16:46:43 ml sendmail[16560]: f1R7hqD16560: ruleset=check_rcpt, arg1=, relay=daemon@localhost, reject=450 4.7.1 ... Can not c heck MX records for recipient host liptinfor.bf Feb 27 16:46:43 ml sendmail[16560]: f1R7hqD16560: lost input channel from daemon@localhost to stdin after rcpt Feb 27 16:46:43 ml sendmail[16560]: f1R7hqD16560: from=, size=0, class=0, nrcpts=14, proto=SMTP, relay=daemon@localhost Feb 27 16:46:43 ml sendmail[16583]: f1R7khl16583: SYSERR: putoutmsg (localhost): error on output channel sending "220 ml.gol.com ESMTP Sendmail 8.11.1/8.11.1; Tue, 27 Feb 2001 1 6:46:43 +0900 (JST)": Broken pipe I've tried building a new sendmail.cf using feature('accept_unresolvable_address'), but that didn't help. Has anyone else encountered this, and if so, how did you resolve it? If you have a URL with a fix, please send it. TIA, Jonathan From majordomo-users-owner Tue Feb 27 22:46:52 2001 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-980720-1) id WAA02977; Tue, 27 Feb 2001 22:12:39 -0800 (PST) Received: from server.postmodern.com (server.postmodern.com [216.240.39.3]) by honor.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7ABC717EBC for ; Tue, 27 Feb 2001 22:12:23 -0800 (PST) Received: from sonny.org (root@[205.217.137.8]) by server.postmodern.com (8.8.5/mcb-010226nr) with ESMTP id TAA05168 for ; Mon, 26 Feb 2001 19:46:31 -0800 (PST) Received: from netscape.com (daniel.sonny.org [205.217.137.65]) by sonny.org (8.8.8/8.8.3) with ESMTP id VAA24315 for ; Mon, 26 Feb 2001 21:43:47 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <3A9B2272.1CE89D3A@netscape.com> Date: Mon, 26 Feb 2001 21:43:46 -0600 From: "D. Liston" Organization: iPlanet E-Commerce Solutions, A Sun Netscape Alliance X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.75 [en] (X11; U; Linux 2.2.16-3 i686) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Majordomo Users Subject: postmodern problems Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk I sent 7 replies into the list today, and all of them bounced as undeliverable for 1 week, 3days, from server.postmodern.com with a return date of 3 Apr 2036. The message headers from my own messages had the right date, time stamp, and time zone for today's information. Has anyone else had this problem today? Dan Liston From majordomo-users-owner Tue Feb 27 22:59:16 2001 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-980720-1) id WAA03042; Tue, 27 Feb 2001 22:13:19 -0800 (PST) Received: from server.postmodern.com (server.postmodern.com [216.240.39.3]) by honor.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id CA5F517EBF for ; Tue, 27 Feb 2001 22:12:54 -0800 (PST) Received: from lisa.nawcad.navy.mil (lisa.nawcad.navy.mil [192.58.199.174]) by server.postmodern.com (8.8.5/mcb-010226nr) with ESMTP id EAA05906 for ; Tue, 27 Feb 2001 04:16:55 -0800 (PST) From: davea@tecnet1.jcte.jcs.mil Received: by lisa.nawcad.navy.mil; id HAA27195; Tue, 27 Feb 2001 07:14:13 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <200102271214.HAA27195@lisa.nawcad.navy.mil> Received: from tecnet1.jcte.jcs.mil(140.229.33.200) by lisa.nawcad.navy.mil via smap (V4.2) id xma027018; Tue, 27 Feb 01 07:14:05 -0500 Date: Tue, 27 Feb 01 07:13:28 EDT To: majordomo-users@greatcircle.com Posted: Feb 27 07:13 2001 EST (Feb 27 12:13 ZULU) Subject: patch question Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk Hi, I'm using MajorCool for MajorDomo admin and I ran into a problem installing patch upgrades for config_parse.pl and resend. I recently patched both config_parse.pl and resend, so the patches I need to install for MajorCool will not take and I will have to add the lines by hand. But, I ran into little problem and I'm not sure what to do. In patch files the '+' is for adding lines and '-' is for removal of a line. But, in the MajorCool resend patch there is '!'. So far, I have not been able to determine in the man pages what the '!' is supposed to do. The only thing I do know is those lines with '!' in the patch don't exist in resend, so I'm planning on adding them. I'm I correct? Also, I notice in the config_parse.pl patch of MajorCool there was a a 'who_sort' option. Where can I find information or patch to add this option? Thanks in advance, Dave From majordomo-users-owner Tue Feb 27 23:21:50 2001 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-980720-1) id WAA04281; Tue, 27 Feb 2001 22:54:12 -0800 (PST) Received: from hall.mail.mindspring.net (hall.mail.mindspring.net [207.69.200.60]) by honor.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3C04217EB9 for ; Tue, 27 Feb 2001 22:54:08 -0800 (PST) Received: from [192.168.1.127] (user-2ivfkdo.dialup.mindspring.com [165.247.209.184]) by hall.mail.mindspring.net (8.9.3/8.8.5) with ESMTP id BAA31924; Wed, 28 Feb 2001 01:53:49 -0500 (EST) Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Sender: brent@honor.greatcircle.com Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <3A9B2272.1CE89D3A@netscape.com> References: <3A9B2272.1CE89D3A@netscape.com> Date: Tue, 27 Feb 2001 22:54:02 -0800 To: "D. Liston" , Majordomo Users From: Brent Chapman Subject: Re: postmodern problems Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk It was an unfortunate combination of two problems. First, GreatCircle.COM was off the air from early Sunday morning through this evening because of a connectivity problem. That problem has since been resolved, at least temporarily. When GreatCircle.COM is offline, mail accumulates at our backup MX server, which is at PostModern.COM. The second problem is that the machine at Postmodern.COM has a bad clock chip. Normally, this is only a problem when it reboots, until somebody resets the clock; when it reboots, its idea of the current date/time is wildly off. Unfortunately, it rebooted yesterday while there were a bunch of GreatCircle.COM messages cooling their heels in its queue; when it started processing the queue after the reboot, it started bouncing messages because it thought they had been in the queue too long (more than 10 days). MCB stopped this fairly quickly after the reboot, but a few messages were bounced nonetheless. -Brent At 9:43 PM -0600 2/26/01, D. Liston wrote: >I sent 7 replies into the list today, and all of them >bounced as undeliverable for 1 week, 3days, from >server.postmodern.com with a return date of 3 Apr 2036. > >The message headers from my own messages had the right >date, time stamp, and time zone for today's information. > >Has anyone else had this problem today? > >Dan Liston -- Brent Chapman Great Circle Associates, Inc. Brent@GreatCircle.COM http://www.greatcircle.com/ From majordomo-users-owner Tue Feb 27 23:51:17 2001 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-980720-1) id WAA03203; Tue, 27 Feb 2001 22:15:09 -0800 (PST) Received: from server.postmodern.com (server.postmodern.com [216.240.39.3]) by honor.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6783017E8B for ; Tue, 27 Feb 2001 22:15:01 -0800 (PST) Received: from relay1.olypen.com (relay1.olypen.com [208.200.248.8]) by server.postmodern.com (8.8.5/mcb-010226nr) with ESMTP id OAA07162 for ; Tue, 27 Feb 2001 14:01:55 -0800 (PST) From: erich@olypen.com Received: from worthless.poeinc.com (worthless.poeinc.com [208.200.251.120]) by relay1.olypen.com (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f1RM2LP06985 for ; Tue, 27 Feb 2001 14:02:24 -0800 Received: from localhost (eric@localhost) by worthless.poeinc.com (8.11.2/8.11.2) with ESMTP id f1RM1Nl01996 for ; Tue, 27 Feb 2001 14:01:23 -0800 Date: Tue, 27 Feb 2001 14:01:23 -0800 (PST) X-Sender: eric@worthless.poeinc.com To: Majordomo-Users@greatcircle.com Subject: :include: exposed Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk Given my aliases: # test mailing list test: "|/usr/local/majordomo/wrapper resend -l test test-list" test-list: :include:/usr/local/majordomo/lists/test owner-test: eric test-owner: eric test-approval: eric test-request: "|/usr/local/majordomo/wrapper majordomo -l test" Sending to the list makes the first received header look like this: Received: (from majordomo@localhost) by worthless.example.com (8.11.2/8.11.2) id f1RLn1L01691 for test-list; Tue, 27 Feb 2001 13:49:01 -0800 So my test-list: alias is exposed in the mail. Anyone on the list who sees this can simply mail test-list@example.com instead of test@example.com and bypass the wrapper and resend. I imagine spammers would like this a lot, it bypasses the necessity of being subscribed to the list, since I only let list members post. How do I hide this? I've been thinking about this for days and the solution still eludes me. Regards, Eric From majordomo-users-owner Wed Feb 28 00:05:43 2001 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-980720-1) id XAA05443; Tue, 27 Feb 2001 23:51:19 -0800 (PST) Received: by honor.greatcircle.com (Postfix, from userid 1013) id DC65117EC5; Tue, 27 Feb 2001 23:51:13 -0800 (PST) Received: from mailserver.unimi.it (mailserver.unimi.it [159.149.10.1]) by honor.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E730717EAF for ; Thu, 22 Feb 2001 01:07:26 -0800 (PST) Received: from brambilla (brambilla.divtlc.unimi.it [159.149.105.39]) by mailserver.unimi.it (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id KAA07592 for ; Thu, 22 Feb 2001 10:07:31 +0100 (MET) Message-Id: <3.0.6.32.20010222100941.009a3310@mailserver.unimi.it> X-Sender: brambil4@mailserver.unimi.it X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.6 (32) Date: Thu, 22 Feb 2001 10:09:41 +0100 To: Majordomo-Users@GreatCircle.COM From: nicola brambilla Subject: unsubscribe_policy problem Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk I'm running the following: Majordomo 1.94.5 Sendmail 8.9.3 Digital Unix V4.0E When configuring lists, everything is working beautifully except the: unsubscribe_policy =3D closed For some reason, the lists are just ignoring this and allowing anyone to unsubscribe themselves (behaving like 'open'). The subscribe_policy is also set to 'closed', and it's working like it should. Anything strange about this flag? From reading the archives, it sounds like it should work fine. Thanks! Brambilla Nicola Divisione Telecomunicazioni Universit=E0 Studi Milano Via Colombo, 46 02/58355271 nicola.brambilla@unimi.it From majordomo-users-owner Wed Feb 28 00:30:32 2001 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-980720-1) id WAA03242; Tue, 27 Feb 2001 22:16:45 -0800 (PST) Received: from server.postmodern.com (server.postmodern.com [216.240.39.3]) by honor.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id BD79E17EB9 for ; Tue, 27 Feb 2001 22:16:38 -0800 (PST) Received: from sulphur.cix.co.uk (sulphur.cix.co.uk [212.35.225.149]) by server.postmodern.com (8.8.5/mcb-010226nr) with ESMTP id WAA05413 for ; Mon, 26 Feb 2001 22:34:48 -0800 (PST) Received: from mesh--computer (5300-tele-1-cluster.191.ip-pool.cix.co.uk [194.153.22.191]) by sulphur.cix.co.uk (8.11.2/CIX/8.11.2) with SMTP id f1R6J3k04625 for ; Tue, 27 Feb 2001 06:19:07 GMT X-Envelope-From: mwinnett@satchmo.win-uk.net Message-ID: <002f01c0a085$7adde1b0$0101a8c0@mesh--computer> From: "Mike Winnett" To: "majordomo-users" Subject: any idea what this b0unce is? Date: Tue, 27 Feb 2001 06:21:00 -0000 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.2106.4 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk Any idea why I get a bounce with subject "Admin request of type /\buns\w*b/i at line 7 " I can't see what the problem is. Does line 7" refer to the body or does it include the header? tia mw ----------------------------------------------------------message begins From: "Jeremy Farquhar" To: "Arsenal Mailing List" Subject: Folding and Singing Date: Tue, 27 Feb 2001 16:30:59 +1100 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 Importance: Normal Folding ------- In the past, a few listees, myself included, have talked about how Man U receive an advantage in the league because lesser teams treat them as unstoppable and just fold, putting in pathetic, roll-over-and-die performances against them. Wenger has complained publicly on at least one occasion about this phenomenon. Well, now that we can add ourselves to the list of teams that have done this, I don't feel that we can any longer resort to this argument as an excuse why we aren't closer to Man U in the league. From majordomo-users-owner Wed Feb 28 00:39:44 2001 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-980720-1) id AAA05922; Wed, 28 Feb 2001 00:11:25 -0800 (PST) Received: from sonny.org (unknown [205.217.137.8]) by honor.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id CE2A417E8B for ; Wed, 28 Feb 2001 00:11:18 -0800 (PST) Received: from netscape.com (daniel.sonny.org [205.217.137.65]) by sonny.org (8.8.8/8.8.3) with ESMTP id CAA27336 for ; Wed, 28 Feb 2001 02:11:36 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <3A9CB2B8.B5B34EB9@netscape.com> Date: Wed, 28 Feb 2001 02:11:36 -0600 From: Dan Liston Organization: iPlanet eCommerce Solutions, A Sun|Netscape Alliance X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.75 [en] (X11; U; Linux 2.2.16-3 i686) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Majordomo Users Subject: Re: Unable to create new list using MajorCool Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk What script did you install (or point to during majorcool install) for creating new lists? This is not an out-of-the-box tool if my memory serves me correctly. Dan Liston "Higdon, David M - CNF" wrote: > > Hello all! > > I am unable to create a new using the MajorCool web browser > interface. Anyone else have a problem creating lists? Everything > appeared to install correctly in regards to MajorCool. Majordomo > has been up and running for about a month now. Any feed back > would be great. From majordomo-users-owner Wed Feb 28 02:14:07 2001 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-980720-1) id XAA05586; Tue, 27 Feb 2001 23:56:15 -0800 (PST) Received: by honor.greatcircle.com (Postfix, from userid 1013) id 745CD17E8B; Tue, 27 Feb 2001 23:56:12 -0800 (PST) Received: from mx1.jacksonesd.k12.or.us (mx1.jacksonesd.k12.or.us [198.237.128.160]) by honor.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9C01417E8E for ; Thu, 22 Feb 2001 17:41:36 -0800 (PST) Received: from jacksonesd.k12.or.us (infinity.jacksonesd.k12.or.us [198.237.128.63]) by mx1.jacksonesd.k12.or.us (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f1N1fgT03832; Thu, 22 Feb 2001 17:41:42 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from scottb@jacksonesd.k12.or.us) Message-ID: <3A95C033.68B77708@jacksonesd.k12.or.us> Date: Thu, 22 Feb 2001 17:44:03 -0800 From: scottb@jacksonesd.k12.or.us Reply-To: scottb@jacksonesd.k12.or.us X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.6 (Macintosh; I; PPC) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "Majordomo-Users@GreatCircle.COM" Subject: changing owner-list to owner_list Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; x-mac-type="54455854"; x-mac-creator="4D4F5353" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk We have a standardized email addresses as user_name@our_domain. Majordomo likes owner-list_name@our_domain. I am thinking I can change this in a config file, but doesn't look like it lives in majordomo.cf, majordomo.aliases, or the individual list.config files. Do you know where can I modify the automatically generated welcome message (not the intro)? From majordomo-users-owner Wed Feb 28 02:37:05 2001 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-980720-1) id WAA03495; Tue, 27 Feb 2001 22:19:12 -0800 (PST) Received: from server.postmodern.com (server.postmodern.com [216.240.39.3]) by honor.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 86DB517EC3 for ; Tue, 27 Feb 2001 22:19:05 -0800 (PST) Received: from wiggum.nawcad.navy.mil (wiggum.nawcad.navy.mil [192.58.199.176]) by server.postmodern.com (8.8.5/mcb-010226nr) with ESMTP id EAA05895 for ; Tue, 27 Feb 2001 04:08:01 -0800 (PST) From: davea@tecnet1.jcte.jcs.mil Received: by wiggum.nawcad.navy.mil; id HAA10981; Tue, 27 Feb 2001 07:05:20 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <200102271205.HAA10981@wiggum.nawcad.navy.mil> Received: from tecnet1.jcte.jcs.mil(140.229.33.200) by wiggum.nawcad.navy.mil via smap (V4.2) id xma010716; Tue, 27 Feb 01 07:05:09 -0500 Date: Tue, 27 Feb 01 07:04:44 EDT To: dliston@netscape.com Posted: Feb 27 07:04 2001 EST (Feb 27 12:04 ZULU) Cc: majordomo-users@greatcircle.com Subject: [ANS] path installation problems Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk Hi, First thanks again Dan for your help. I discovered the problem with the config_parse.pl-resend.1 patch script. The script actually contained patches for two different pieces of code. The top part of the patch was for config_parse.pl and the bottom was for resend. I created two patch files from this one patch file and reran patch for config_parse.pl and resend. I received no errors this time and the patches took. Thanks again for your help. Dave > From dliston@netscape.com Mon Feb 26 14:44:01 2001 > Received: from otto.nawcad.navy.mil (otto-internal.nawcad.navy.mil [192.58.199.212]) > by tecnet1.jcte.jcs.mil (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA07188 > for ; Mon, 26 Feb 2001 14:43:59 -0500 (EST) > Received: by otto.nawcad.navy.mil; id OAA02519; Mon, 26 Feb 2001 14:43:59 -0500 (EST) > Received: from unknown(24.116.56.30) by otto.nawcad.navy.mil via smap (V4.2) > id xma001606; Mon, 26 Feb 01 14:43:42 -0500 > Received: from netscape.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) > by daniel.sonny.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA02852; > Mon, 26 Feb 2001 13:43:42 -0600 > Sender: dliston@netscape.com > Message-ID: <3A9AB1EE.EC28E9FD@netscape.com> > Date: Mon, 26 Feb 2001 13:43:42 -0600 > From: "D. Liston" > Organization: iPlanet E-Commerce Solutions, A Sun Netscape Alliance > X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.75 [en] (X11; U; Linux 2.2.16-3 i686) > X-Accept-Language: en > MIME-Version: 1.0 > To: davea@tecnet1.jcte.jcs.mil > CC: majordomo-users@greatcircle.com > Subject: Re: path installation problems > References: <200102222001.PAA26803@patty.nawcad.navy.mil> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii > Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > > If you want to try to patch a file by hand, you can read the patch file in one > window and do the editing in another. The first two lines of the file refer to > the files used to create the patch (or diff) file. In this case, config_parse.pl. > (modified) and a copy of the original file, config_parse.pl.orig. > > Next, is a separator line, the line numbers of the original file followed by new > line numbers related to the changed file. This is good only as a starting > reference when dealing with already modified files. You can use the next three > lines to confirm location when you find an "exact" match. Lines with - signs are > removed and lines with + signs are added. Lastly, there are three more lines of > unmodified text to verify you are in the right location. > > If this makes you uncomfortable in any way, do not attempt hand patching the code. > If you are the adventurous type, make sure to keep working backups. > > *** config_parse.pl.orig Fri Jan 7 06:00:26 2000 > --- config_parse.pl Sun Jun 4 05:12:35 2000 > *************** > *** 130,135 **** > --- 130,138 ---- > 'subject_prefix', '', # prefix for the subject line > 'taboo_headers', '', # if a header matches, review message > 'taboo_body', '', # if body matches, review message > + 'non_member_bounce', "\001sender\001sender-owner\001#!\$default_non_member_bounce ? \$default_non_member_bounce : ''", > + # non_member_bounce is sent to > + > # stuff for digest below > 'digest_volume', '1', > 'digest_issue', '1', > [snip] > above pasted only for visual effect and is not the complete file. > > Dan Liston > > davea@tecnet1.jcte.jcs.mil wrote: > > > > Hi, > > > > I have majordomo 1.94.5 on a Solaris 2.6 box. I downloaded a number of > > patches from ftp.ccsf.org/majordomo-patches/1.94.5/majordomo.pl. Most of > > the patch installations went well. But two of them are giving me fits. > > I'm not a perl person yet, but, this majordomo is making me a fast learner. > > Can someone explain what is going on with these patches and possible work arounds? I believe I know what needs to be done, I just need some clarification. > > > > # patch config_parse.pl < config_parse.pl-resend.1 > > Looks like a new-style context diff. > > The next patch looks like a new-style context diff. > > Hunk #1 failed at line 564. > > Hunk #2 failed at line 918. > > 2 out of 2 hunks failed: saving rejects to config_parse.pl.rej > > > > #patch majordomo.pl < majordomo.pl.1 > > Looks like a unified context diff. > > Hunk #1 failed at line 173. > > Hunk #2 failed at line 185. > > 2 out of 2 hunks failed: saving rejects to majordomo.pl.rej > > I can't seem to find a patch in there anywhere. From majordomo-users-owner Wed Feb 28 03:14:45 2001 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-980720-1) id AAA05774; Wed, 28 Feb 2001 00:05:11 -0800 (PST) Received: by honor.greatcircle.com (Postfix, from userid 1013) id 9C97117E8B; Wed, 28 Feb 2001 00:05:08 -0800 (PST) Received: from rauterkus.com (rauterkus.com [128.121.220.18]) by honor.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3A9E917E8E for ; Fri, 23 Feb 2001 17:18:40 -0800 (PST) Received: from [209.114.157.120] (dap-209-114-157-120.pri.tnt-2.pgh.pa.stargate.net [209.114.157.120]) by rauterkus.com (8.8.8) id SAA54587; Fri, 23 Feb 2001 18:18:24 -0700 (MST) Message-Id: <200102240118.SAA54587@rauterkus.com> X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express Macintosh Edition - 4.5 (0410) Date: Fri, 23 Feb 2001 20:21:29 -0500 Subject: Re: Unable to create new list using MajorCool From: "Mark Rauterkus" To: "Higdon, David M - CNF" , majordomo-users@greatcircle.com Mime-version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk Hi, > I am unable to create a new using the MajorCool web browser > interface. I think that the standard Majorcool didn't create new lists. The button was put there as something to grow into. And, for the short-term it served as a way for list-folks to make a "new suggestion" as to what was needed. My info is foggy and very dated. I'd love to be proven wrong. But, I don't think making new lists is part of what MajorCool does. So, enjoy the other features. Make new lists some other way. Ta. Mark Rauterkus mark@Rauterkus.com From majordomo-users-owner Wed Feb 28 03:38:24 2001 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-980720-1) id XAA05531; Tue, 27 Feb 2001 23:54:54 -0800 (PST) Received: by honor.greatcircle.com (Postfix, from userid 1013) id 42E7E17E8B; Tue, 27 Feb 2001 23:54:52 -0800 (PST) Received: from arm.mrball.net (mrball.net [209.85.130.137]) by honor.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3249217E8E for ; Thu, 22 Feb 2001 13:47:03 -0800 (PST) Received: from mrball.net (todd.mrball.net [192.168.18.3]) by arm.mrball.net (8.11.2/8.11.2) with ESMTP id f1MLkxd18228; Thu, 22 Feb 2001 13:46:59 -0800 Message-ID: <3A9588D2.FB3118E2@mrball.net> Date: Thu, 22 Feb 2001 13:46:58 -0800 From: Todd Lyons X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (X11; U; Linux 2.2.14-zip i586) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "Simone L. Crider" Cc: majordomo-users@GreatCircle.COM Subject: Re: HOSTILE ADDRESS References: <032501c09ce3$7c6dbe10$a101a8c0@ncddc.noaa.gov> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk - "Simone L. Crider" wrote: > HOSTILE ADDRESS (tried to subscribe list) test I've not ever seen this before, so I anxiously await what others say. > Is there another source that I can get more information about > majordomo, > other than the man page? It's a perl script, so you can always browse the source code. Not a very good answer in that it depends on your technical savvy, but it is a viable option. -- Blue skies... Todd | Get a bigger hammer! | Never mind me. I'm speaking out of | | http://www.mrball.net | my /dev/ass anyway. | | http://faq.mrball.net | --Gash Teshome | From majordomo-users-owner Wed Feb 28 03:40:54 2001 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-980720-1) id XAA05299; Tue, 27 Feb 2001 23:46:48 -0800 (PST) Received: by honor.greatcircle.com (Postfix, from userid 1013) id B73E517E8B; Tue, 27 Feb 2001 23:46:45 -0800 (PST) Received: from math.buffalostate.edu (math.buffalostate.edu [136.183.3.170]) by honor.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A23A617E8C for ; Tue, 20 Feb 2001 16:57:30 -0800 (PST) Received: (from sanders@localhost) by math.buffalostate.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) id UAA09300 for majordomo-users@GreatCircle.com; Tue, 20 Feb 2001 20:58:23 -0500 Date: Tue, 20 Feb 2001 20:58:23 -0500 From: Robin Sanders Message-Id: <200102210158.UAA09300@math.buffalostate.edu> To: majordomo-users@GreatCircle.com Subject: Users have problems getting OFF my lists Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk I'm using majordomo on a RedHat 6.2 system to manage a small number of department lists. My students and faculty members can subscribe and post to the lists without any problem. But everytime someone attempts to "unsubscribe" to a list, I get the following error message bounced back to my account (as the majordomo caretaker): > > MAJORDOMO ABORT (mj_majordomo)!! > > chown(851, 12, "/usr/local/majordomo-1.94.5/lists/mat164.new"): Operation not permitted > Any ideas on what this means? This happens even when there is no *.new or L.* file in my lists directory. Any ideas on how to fix the problem? By the way, majordomo has UID 851 and the group "mail" has GID 12. Thanks in advance for any help you can give me. Robin Sue Sanders Associate Professor and part-time sys adm mail: Mathematics Department Buffalo State College 1300 Elmwood Ave. Buffalo, NY 14222 email: sanders@math.buffalostate.edu phone: (716) 878-6506 From majordomo-users-owner Wed Feb 28 03:51:35 2001 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-980720-1) id AAA05804; Wed, 28 Feb 2001 00:05:53 -0800 (PST) Received: by honor.greatcircle.com (Postfix, from userid 1013) id 047A617E8B; Wed, 28 Feb 2001 00:05:50 -0800 (PST) Received: from server-jf1.ips.com.br (bach.ips.com.br [200.251.141.68]) by honor.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E593517E8E for ; Fri, 23 Feb 2001 23:18:13 -0800 (PST) Received: from marcelof (shaw.artnet.com.br [200.251.141.138]) by server-jf1.ips.com.br (8.11.1/8.11.1) with SMTP id f1O7IIC60879 for ; Sat, 24 Feb 2001 04:18:19 -0300 (EST) Message-ID: <00af01c09e31$cf828f00$8a8dfbc8@marcelof> From: "Marcelo Conde Foscarini" To: Subject: bounce message Date: Sat, 24 Feb 2001 04:17:11 -0300 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk Hi, I'm running the following: Sendmail 8.8.5 Perl 5.004_04 Linux version 2.0.36 Majordomo 1.94.5 Problem: when I send an email to my list it's bounced with error message BOUNCE diretoria@viairc.com: Non-member submission from ["Marcelo Conde Foscarini" ] The problem is that my restrict_post option is clear, because I want that everyone can post messages to this list. Even with nothing set in restrict_post section, all messages from all persons that are not in the subscribers list are getting bounced with this error. Any clue ? thank you Marcelo Conde Foscarini From majordomo-users-owner Wed Feb 28 03:56:54 2001 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-980720-1) id AAA05744; Wed, 28 Feb 2001 00:03:14 -0800 (PST) Received: by honor.greatcircle.com (Postfix, from userid 1013) id B012017E8B; Wed, 28 Feb 2001 00:03:11 -0800 (PST) Received: from math.buffalostate.edu (math.buffalostate.edu [136.183.3.170]) by honor.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8BC8017E8E for ; Fri, 23 Feb 2001 12:54:16 -0800 (PST) Received: (from sanders@localhost) by math.buffalostate.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) id QAA14384; Fri, 23 Feb 2001 16:55:00 -0500 Date: Fri, 23 Feb 2001 16:55:00 -0500 From: Robin Sanders Message-Id: <200102232155.QAA14384@math.buffalostate.edu> To: majordomo-users@GreatCircle.com, mjn@umn.edu Subject: Re: People can't get OFF my l*sts Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk Mike Neuharth wrote in response to my "uns_bscribe" problem: > Is /usr/local/majordomo-1.94.5/lists owned by the majordomo user? > > Looks to me like majordomo does not have create/write permissions in your > lists directory... The lists directory (and majordomo's home directory) are both owned by majordomo and have rwx permissions for the user. If majordomo couldn't write to the lists directory, then I suspect that I'd also get errors when people tried to s_bscribe to my lists as well. I only get errors when they try to uns_bscribe. For what it's worth, when I get one of these errors, I notice that a *.new file (and sometimes an L.*) gets created. The *.new and L.* files are owned by user "mail" and have group "mail." Again, thanks in advance for any insight, Robin Sue Sanders Associate Professor and part-time sys-adm mail: Mathematics Department Buffalo State College 1300 Elmwood Ave. Buffalo, NY 14222 email: sanders@math.buffalostate.edu phone: (716) 878-6506 From majordomo-users-owner Wed Feb 28 04:10:02 2001 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-980720-1) id DAA11396; Wed, 28 Feb 2001 03:43:06 -0800 (PST) Received: from ham.kiev.ua (srv0.kancom.kiev.ua [217.25.192.61]) by honor.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 30B8217E8B for ; Wed, 28 Feb 2001 03:42:23 -0800 (PST) Received: from ulys.kiev.ua (ulys.kiev.ua [217.25.193.65]) by ham.kiev.ua (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA04302 for ; Wed, 28 Feb 2001 13:41:41 +0200 (EET) Received: from nazarok (nazarok.ulys.loc [10.0.0.51]) by ulys.kiev.ua (/) with ESMTP id f1SBdBg95778 for ; Wed, 28 Feb 2001 13:39:11 +0200 (EET) (envelope-from nazarok@ulys.kiev.ua) Date: Wed, 28 Feb 2001 13:42:38 +0200 From: Yuriy Nazarok X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.47 Halloween Edition) Personal Reply-To: Yuriy Nazarok Organization: ULYS Systems X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <17587969803.20010228134238@ulys.kiev.ua> To: Majordomo-Users@GreatCircle.COM Subject: Unusual System Events Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk Hello All, I've got next messages from sendmail: Unusual System Events =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Feb 28 13:41:25 www sendmail[22967]: f1SBfPT22967: clone f1SBfPS22967, owner=owner-spfu_mailer Feb 28 13:49:50 www sendmail[23064]: f1SBno423064: clone f1SBnk423063, owner=owner-spfu_mailer But list functions corect as I see. What does it means? ------------------- Best regards, Yuriy Nazarok ULYS Systems ------------------- From majordomo-users-owner Wed Feb 28 04:13:57 2001 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-980720-1) id XAA05333; Tue, 27 Feb 2001 23:47:35 -0800 (PST) Received: by honor.greatcircle.com (Postfix, from userid 1013) id 4F7F817E8B; Tue, 27 Feb 2001 23:47:33 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail.cybermedia.co.in (unknown [202.54.41.140]) by honor.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 80C0B17EAF for ; Wed, 21 Feb 2001 02:36:25 -0800 (PST) Received: from gauri.cybermedia.co.in (ns1.cybermedia.co.in [202.54.41.130]) by mail.cybermedia.co.in (8.9.3/8.8.7) with SMTP id QAA15852 for ; Wed, 21 Feb 2001 16:06:46 +0530 Received: by gauri.cybermedia.co.in with Microsoft Mail id <01C09C20.540BF450@gauri.cybermedia.co.in>; Wed, 21 Feb 2001 16:07:02 -0000 Message-ID: <01C09C20.540BF450@gauri.cybermedia.co.in> From: Gauri To: "'majordomo-users@GreatCircle.com'" Subject: problem Date: Wed, 21 Feb 2001 16:07:01 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk Hello I have installed Majordomo1.94.5 on Soalris 7 machine with sendmail 8.9 Its working fine.=20 I usually telnet to the machine where I have installed Majordomo The only problem is during telnet session when I change the user to root = by "su root " and then send the mail to majordomo I (i.e root )dont get = any reply nor any error is generated . If I change to some other user = (not the root ) like "su xyz" or "su abc" & then send mail to majordomo = I do get proper responses . If I login as root to main machine (not by telneting) , mails are = received this problem arises only when i do "su root "during telnet = session .What could be the problem?? This problem is not there on Linux machine Thanks Gauri From majordomo-users-owner Wed Feb 28 04:23:35 2001 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-980720-1) id XAA05350; Tue, 27 Feb 2001 23:47:57 -0800 (PST) Received: by honor.greatcircle.com (Postfix, from userid 1013) id 5A40C17E8B; Tue, 27 Feb 2001 23:47:55 -0800 (PST) Received: from sonny.org (unknown [205.217.137.8]) by honor.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B7FA117EAF for ; Wed, 21 Feb 2001 10:12:19 -0800 (PST) Received: from netscape.com (citadel.teamp.com [206.81.132.94]) by sonny.org (8.8.8/8.8.3) with ESMTP id MAA10918; Wed, 21 Feb 2001 12:12:16 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <3A9404A9.686B63F8@netscape.com> Date: Wed, 21 Feb 2001 12:10:49 -0600 From: Dan Liston Organization: iPlanet eCommerce Solutions, A Sun-Netscape Alliance X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.76 [en] (X11; U; Linux 2.2.17-14 i686) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: peter.shipley@creativedigital.co.uk Cc: Majordomo-Users@greatcircle.com Subject: Re: Posting to lists in HTML References: <000b01c09a77$b69333e0$3601a8c0@CD.REP> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk Unless you are already taking steps to prevent/remove HTML from your majordomo lists, just send an HTML message as normal to the list. AND, if you should decide you want to allow HTML into this list by default, MAKE SURE you are not adding footers/fronter to each message. Dan Liston > I want to send HTML newsletters out. I know there is a big heated debate > about sending anything other than plain text out but this is something > people have requested. They be wrong but let's try and put it aside as we > all know it is not the best way. I have trawled through the archives and > idon't seem to find any relevant posts although i know there must be some. > So, how do i send html newsletters to majordomo for distribution ? From majordomo-users-owner Wed Feb 28 04:27:58 2001 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-980720-1) id XAA05432; Tue, 27 Feb 2001 23:51:12 -0800 (PST) Received: by honor.greatcircle.com (Postfix, from userid 1013) id 985DD17E8B; Tue, 27 Feb 2001 23:51:09 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail.bigfatpipe.net (sprinkler.bigfatpipe.net [128.241.64.106]) by honor.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C9A5A17E8E for ; Thu, 22 Feb 2001 00:17:26 -0800 (PST) Received: from cra (helo=localhost) by mail.bigfatpipe.net with local-esmtp (Exim 3.22 #1) id 14Vqvz-000JSc-00; Thu, 22 Feb 2001 00:17:07 -0800 Date: Thu, 22 Feb 2001 00:17:07 -0800 (PST) From: The Abalone To: Doug Brewer Cc: Clayton Beaudoin , Subject: Re: poster stuff In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk On Wed, 21 Feb 2001, Doug Brewer wrote: > What I did was create a new list, listname-nomail, which is really > just a list of subscribers, a config and an alias. No mail is sent > through the list, and no mail is sent from the list. The subscriber > list is then included in the restrict_post line with the regular list. The solution we're using is a bit more involved, and does not (at this time) allow the listowners to directly add or remove no-mail users. There are three files in place for each list that requests this ability. They are [list], [list].additional, and [list].approved. The [list] file is the traditional subscriber list. The [list].additional file is a list of addresses that would like to post to the list, but not receive messages in their boxes. (Work accounts, whatever.) The [list].approved file is a generated file (we use a small perl script run from the crontab) which is basically the same as: cat [list] > [list].approved ; cat [list].additional >> [list].approved The [list].approved file is then set to be the restrict_post value. The benefits of this approach are less lists to configure/manage, as the "nomail" feature becomes a function of config files relative to the existing lists. The drawback is that because there is no way for listowners to directly edit those files, it increases a burden on your sysadmins. -CA From majordomo-users-owner Wed Feb 28 04:42:09 2001 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-980720-1) id XAA05561; Tue, 27 Feb 2001 23:55:28 -0800 (PST) Received: by honor.greatcircle.com (Postfix, from userid 1013) id 246F817EC5; Tue, 27 Feb 2001 23:55:20 -0800 (PST) Received: from seashell.ncddc.noaa.gov (seashell.ncddc.noaa.gov [192.150.34.11]) by honor.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id BFC3317E8E for ; Thu, 22 Feb 2001 14:00:23 -0800 (PST) Received: from MERMAID ([192.168.1.161]) by seashell.ncddc.noaa.gov (8.11.2/8.11.2) with SMTP id f1MLwm518261; Thu, 22 Feb 2001 15:58:48 -0600 Message-ID: <040301c09d18$cac26f90$a101a8c0@ncddc.noaa.gov> From: "Simone L. Crider" To: "Todd Lyons" Cc: References: <032501c09ce3$7c6dbe10$a101a8c0@ncddc.noaa.gov> <3A9588D2.FB3118E2@mrball.net> Subject: Re: HOSTILE ADDRESS Date: Thu, 22 Feb 2001 15:45:37 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2919.6700 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6700 Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk - Hi Todd! ----- Original Message ----- From: "Todd Lyons" > > I've not ever seen this before, so I anxiously await what others say. > I found a way around it, by manually adding my address to the list, test. This works. I've been testing the other aliases that I've setup & sending requests to majordomo & so far, it's OK. However, I've been looking back through the archives for the following header that is returned w/ each request to majordomo, -- >>>> This is a multi-part message in MIME format. **** Command 'this' not recognized. >>>> >>>> ------=_NextPart_000_03A5_01C09CD5.33345A50 **** Command '------=_nextpart_000_03a5_01c09cd5.33345a50' not recognized. >>>> Content-Type: text/plain; **** Command 'content-type:' not recognized. >>>> charset="iso-8859-1" **** Command 'charset="iso-8859-1"' not recognized. >>>> Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable **** Command 'content-transfer-encoding:' not recognized. >>>> >>>> which The header seems to grow w/ each request. Is there a way to turn-off this header? Or is this a side-effect from the way I added myself to the list. > > It's a perl script, so you can always browse the source code. Not a > very good answer in that it depends on your technical savvy, but it is a > viable option. > Unfortunately, I don't know perl very well, guess now's a good time to learn more! Thanks again, Simone From majordomo-users-owner Wed Feb 28 04:54:36 2001 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-980720-1) id AAA05812; Wed, 28 Feb 2001 00:06:07 -0800 (PST) Received: from sonny.org (unknown [205.217.137.8]) by honor.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2F68F17E8B for ; Wed, 28 Feb 2001 00:06:00 -0800 (PST) Received: from netscape.com (daniel.sonny.org [205.217.137.65]) by sonny.org (8.8.8/8.8.3) with ESMTP id CAA27310 for ; Wed, 28 Feb 2001 02:06:13 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <3A9CB174.A381157C@netscape.com> Date: Wed, 28 Feb 2001 02:06:12 -0600 From: Dan Liston Organization: iPlanet eCommerce Solutions, A Sun|Netscape Alliance X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.75 [en] (X11; U; Linux 2.2.16-3 i686) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Majordomo Users Subject: Re: Problems with MJ-mailinglist (Pt. II) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk Ralf Semroch wrote: > > What does this mean? > > ----- The following addresses had permanent fatal errors ----- > "|/usr/local/majordomo/wrapper resend -p Bulk -l dreamweaver -I > dreamweaver -f listowner@dreamweaver-mailingliste.de -h > dreamweaver-mailingliste.de -s dreamweaver-list" > (expanded from: ) You did not include some crucial information with the error message, but here is what I can offer as a starting point. It means your alias for dreamweaver is using resend to set the precedence of the mailing list deliveries to Bulk, the server name the list is coming from is dreamweaver-mailingliste.de, only allow posts from subscribers, enable administrivia, and make each message look like it was sent from listowner@dreamweaver-mailingliste.de. By doing DNS lookups, I would say that your MTA had trouble recognizing either listowner or dreamweaver @dreamweaver-mailingliste.de. It is also possible, that -I should be a fully qualified filename if you are going to use it in an alias rather than the config file. If you are using restrict_post in the config file, the -I on the alias becomes redundant. If you have resend_host defined in the config file, the -h is redundant. If you define precedence = bulk in the config file, the -p in the alias is redundant. In fact, everything in the alias for your list (except the -l dreamweaver) is superceded by settings in your dreamweaver.config file. Your -f listowner@dreamweaver-mailingliste.de is the same as your "sender" setting in the config file, and the -s dreamweaver-list is the same as "administrivia = yes" in the dreamweaver.config file. (or should be) Dan Liston From majordomo-users-owner Wed Feb 28 05:09:58 2001 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-980720-1) id XAA05376; Tue, 27 Feb 2001 23:48:53 -0800 (PST) Received: by honor.greatcircle.com (Postfix, from userid 1013) id AE74517E8B; Tue, 27 Feb 2001 23:48:50 -0800 (PST) Received: from seashell.ncddc.noaa.gov (seashell.ncddc.noaa.gov [192.150.34.11]) by honor.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A145317EAF for ; Wed, 21 Feb 2001 13:20:55 -0800 (PST) Received: from MERMAID ([192.168.1.161]) by seashell.ncddc.noaa.gov (8.11.2/8.11.2) with SMTP id f1LLIeh17523; Wed, 21 Feb 2001 15:18:40 -0600 Message-ID: <024801c09c4a$04a92200$a101a8c0@ncddc.noaa.gov> From: "Simone L. Crider" To: "Todd Lyons" , "Dan Liston" Cc: References: <006b01c09c2f$127ad650$a101a8c0@ncddc.noaa.gov> <3A942659.A66687A8@mrball.net> <016201c09c45$4765e330$a101a8c0@ncddc.noaa.gov> <3A942D42.4B01692A@mrball.net> Subject: Re: Fw: Problems installing majordomo on Linux 6.2 system Date: Wed, 21 Feb 2001 15:05:28 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2919.6700 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6700 Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk Sorry Todd, ----- Original Message ----- From: "Todd Lyons" > Call it a lucky guess. It would have been a "for sure" answer if you > had included somewhere in your original questions that you had just > installed sendmail 8.11.2 from source (most people don't realize exactly > how different rpm's can be from the source install). > I guess the sendmail 8.11.2 info was too far buried in my original message, that I forwarded. I should have made that clearer from the start. > > Post your aliases to the list and have the group look them over. If > anything needs to be changed or tweaked, we'll let you know. > The following are the aliases that I now have setup for testing, # Aliases for running Majordomo List Mgr. majordomo: "|/usr/local/majordomo-1.94.5/wrapper majordomo" owner-majordomo: ncddcadm majordomo-owner: ncddcadm test: "|/usr/local/majordomo-1.94.5/wrapper resend -l test test-list" test-list: :include:/usr/local/majordomo-1.94.5/lists/test owner-test: ncddcadm test-request: "|/usr/local/majordomo-1.94.5/wrapper majordomo -l test" test-approval: ncddcadm Majordomo is new to me, so I assume that everything is working properly. Please let me know if there is something else I should do before setting up a user's list? Thanks again for the help! Simone From majordomo-users-owner Wed Feb 28 05:27:16 2001 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-980720-1) id AAA05913; Wed, 28 Feb 2001 00:10:41 -0800 (PST) Received: from sonny.org (unknown [205.217.137.8]) by honor.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7057317E8B for ; Wed, 28 Feb 2001 00:10:29 -0800 (PST) Received: from netscape.com (daniel.sonny.org [205.217.137.65]) by sonny.org (8.8.8/8.8.3) with ESMTP id CAA27332 for ; Wed, 28 Feb 2001 02:10:47 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <3A9CB287.F77A38C8@netscape.com> Date: Wed, 28 Feb 2001 02:10:47 -0600 From: Dan Liston Organization: iPlanet eCommerce Solutions, A Sun|Netscape Alliance X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.75 [en] (X11; U; Linux 2.2.16-3 i686) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Majordomo Users Subject: Re: restrict_post option Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk Hi, The restrict_post setting of your listname.config file is supposed to reference a file, not an email address. Multiple files can be listed (on the same line only) by using space or colon [ :] separators. The only time this filename must be fully qualified is when you do not keep it in the $listdir defined in majordomo.cf. For example, if I want to allow subscribers and a group of non-subscribers listed in a file called /var/lib/majordomo/lists/listname-allowed-to-send, my restrict_post would look like this; restrict_post = pricelist:pricelist-allowedtosend To prevent avv@salesint.com from posting, make sure the address does not exist in either file. If you "do" want avv@salesint.com to post to the pricelist mailing list, add that address to either pricelist or pricelist- allowedtosend. The key is to make sure avv@salesint.com knows they can only send plain text messages to the mailing list. Outlook, Communicator, Eudora, AOL, and others default to sending rich text or HTML formatted messages. This might be why messages are not getting through. Dan Liston Freaked Personality wrote: > > Hey there, > > I set the restrict_post option to > /var/log/majordomo/lists/pricelist.allowtosend in the pricelist.config > file which also resides in /var/log/majordomo/lists in this file I've set > the following: > avv@salesint.com > avv > > The domain on the linux server is salesint.com and there is a user avv > on it. Now when avv@salesint.com tries to send mail to the > pricelist@salesint.com address it just gets dropped (when he's mailing > from his workstation running windows 98 using outlook express) however > when I log in to the linux server as user avv and send mail to > pricelist@salesint.com it does get through. Anyone got any idea on how to > fix this? From majordomo-users-owner Wed Feb 28 05:39:12 2001 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-980720-1) id FAA12478; Wed, 28 Feb 2001 05:14:48 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail.bcpl.net (mail.bcpl.net [204.255.212.10]) by honor.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 208B017E8B for ; Wed, 28 Feb 2001 05:14:36 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (fold@localhost) by mail.bcpl.net (8.11.2/8.11.2) with ESMTP id f1SDElf24640 for ; Wed, 28 Feb 2001 08:14:47 -0500 (EST) Date: Wed, 28 Feb 2001 08:14:47 -0500 (EST) From: Chip Old To: majordomo-users Subject: Re: any idea what this b0unce is? In-Reply-To: <002f01c0a085$7adde1b0$0101a8c0@mesh--computer> Message-ID: X-Organization: BCPL.NET Internet Services MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk On Tue, 27 Feb 2001, Mike Winnett wrote to majordomo-users: > Any idea why I get a bounce with subject > > "Admin request of type /\buns\w*b/i at line 7 " > > I can't see what the problem is. Does line 7" refer to the body or > does it include the header? > [snip] It refers to the message body, in this case the following line. - > unstoppable and just fold, putting in pathetic, roll-over-and-die The administrivia filter picked up "uns" thinking it was an unsubscribe request. -- Chip Old (Francis E. Old) E-Mail: fold@bcpl.net Manager, BCPL Network Services Voice: 410-887-6180 Manager, BCPL.NET Internet Services FAX: 410-887-2091 Baltimore County Public Library ICBM: 39.39910 N 320 York Road 76.60300 W Towson, Maryland 21204 U.S.A. From majordomo-users-owner Wed Feb 28 05:56:28 2001 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-980720-1) id FAA12607; Wed, 28 Feb 2001 05:29:25 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail.bcpl.net (mail.bcpl.net [204.255.212.10]) by honor.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id F139D17E8B for ; Wed, 28 Feb 2001 05:29:13 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (fold@localhost) by mail.bcpl.net (8.11.2/8.11.2) with ESMTP id f1SDTPL28029 for ; Wed, 28 Feb 2001 08:29:25 -0500 (EST) Date: Wed, 28 Feb 2001 08:29:25 -0500 (EST) From: Chip Old To: Majordomo-Users List Subject: Re: :include: exposed In-Reply-To: Message-ID: X-Organization: BCPL.NET Internet Services MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk It's in the FAQ somewhere, but the simple answer is this. Change this: test: "|/usr/local/majordomo/wrapper resend -l test test-list" To this: test: "|/usr/local/majordomo/wrapper resend -l test test-list,nobody" On Tue, 27 Feb 2001, erich@olypen.com wrote: > Given my aliases: > > # test mailing list > test: "|/usr/local/majordomo/wrapper resend -l test test-list" > test-list: :include:/usr/local/majordomo/lists/test > owner-test: eric > test-owner: eric > test-approval: eric > test-request: "|/usr/local/majordomo/wrapper majordomo -l test" > > Sending to the list makes the first received header look like this: > > Received: (from majordomo@localhost) > by worthless.example.com (8.11.2/8.11.2) id f1RLn1L01691 > for test-list; Tue, 27 Feb 2001 13:49:01 -0800 > > > So my test-list: alias is exposed in the mail. Anyone on the list > who sees this can simply mail test-list@example.com instead of > test@example.com and bypass the wrapper and resend. I imagine spammers > would like this a lot, it bypasses the necessity of being subscribed > to the list, since I only let list members post. > > How do I hide this? I've been thinking about this for days and the > solution still eludes me. -- Chip Old (Francis E. Old) E-Mail: fold@bcpl.net Manager, BCPL Network Services Voice: 410-887-6180 Manager, BCPL.NET Internet Services FAX: 410-887-2091 Baltimore County Public Library ICBM: 39.39910 N 320 York Road 76.60300 W Towson, Maryland 21204 U.S.A. From majordomo-users-owner Wed Feb 28 06:07:39 2001 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-980720-1) id XAA05619; Tue, 27 Feb 2001 23:59:06 -0800 (PST) Received: by honor.greatcircle.com (Postfix, from userid 1013) id 4725517E8B; Tue, 27 Feb 2001 23:59:04 -0800 (PST) Received: from sulphur.cix.co.uk (sulphur.cix.co.uk [212.35.225.149]) by honor.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0292417E8E for ; Thu, 22 Feb 2001 22:23:00 -0800 (PST) Received: from mesh--computer (5300-tele-2-cluster.153.ip-pool.cix.co.uk [194.153.25.153]) by sulphur.cix.co.uk (8.11.2/CIX/8.11.2) with SMTP id f1N6MuA28925; Fri, 23 Feb 2001 06:22:56 GMT X-Envelope-From: mwinnett@satchmo.win-uk.net Message-ID: <003401c09d61$588120e0$0101a8c0@mesh--computer> From: "Mike Winnett" To: "Freaked Personality" , Subject: Re: Header Info in email send from Outlook Express gets processed Date: Thu, 22 Feb 2001 18:21:19 -0000 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.2106.4 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk Here's the advice I send to the dummies, (sorry, I mean users ;-) on my lists hth regards mw ============================================================== Outlook Express: Select Tools | Mail Options to change settings. There are three ways to disable the default (Rich Text / HTML) formatting in Outlook Express Mail. 1. In the message window select the "Format" menu and click on "Plain Text". Click yes on the resulting dialog box.This changes the formatting only for the current message. 2. To permanently change the formatting options click on the "Tools" menu in the main Outlook window, and then on "Mail Options". Select Plain Text as the Mail sending format and click OK. OR 3. Go to the Address Book, select the mailing list address, click on Properties, select "send email using plain text only" This will change the settings for the list address only, and you can continue to send html code to everyone else, if you wish. ----------------------------------------------------------- In outlook 98, Select Tools -> Options Click the "Mail Format" tab >From the "Message Settings" option, select "Plain Text" from the drop down box. ============================================================= -----Original Message----- From: Freaked Personality To: majordomo-users@GreatCircle.COM Date: 22 February 2001 18:07 Subject: Header Info in email send from Outlook Express gets processed >Hey there, > >when I'm mailing from Outlook Express (which sends html mail by >default) the html header info gets processed (see attach). Is there any >way to stop this? > >Kind regards, > >Ferry van Steen > > From majordomo-users-owner Wed Feb 28 06:28:48 2001 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-980720-1) id AAA05872; Wed, 28 Feb 2001 00:08:35 -0800 (PST) Received: from sonny.org (unknown [205.217.137.8]) by honor.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 514F317E8B for ; Wed, 28 Feb 2001 00:08:27 -0800 (PST) Received: from netscape.com (daniel.sonny.org [205.217.137.65]) by sonny.org (8.8.8/8.8.3) with ESMTP id CAA27319 for ; Wed, 28 Feb 2001 02:08:45 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <3A9CB20C.A834B5BF@netscape.com> Date: Wed, 28 Feb 2001 02:08:44 -0600 From: Dan Liston Organization: iPlanet eCommerce Solutions, A Sun|Netscape Alliance X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.75 [en] (X11; U; Linux 2.2.16-3 i686) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Majordomo Users Subject: Re: archive question Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk I do not use wilma, so will have to let someone else attack that answer for you, but for archiving in general, you have more than just aliases to deal with. You have to make sure the $filedir and $filedir_suffix are set correctly (corresponding to your aliases or vice versa). It looks like you have managed to combine both archive storage schemes into one alias. Assuming (and you know what assuming does) you have $filedir = "/var/lib/majordomo/archives"; in the majordomo.cf, and $filedir_suffix = "";, then your alias test-archive: "|/usr/lib/majordomo/wrapper archive2.pl -f /var/lib/majordomo/archives/test.archive/test -a -m" would create a file called /var/lib/majordomo/archives/test.archive/test.0201 for this month, which really goes beyond what you need or probably even intended. With the same majordomo.cf setting above, I would create my alias for test-archive to look like test-archive: "|/usr/lib/majordomo/wrapper archive2.pl -f /var/lib/majordomo/archives/test/test -a -M" Each list gets it's own archiving directory, and the final FQDN listed in the -f argument is a filename, then that becomes the basename with an extension of .MMYYYY for -M or .MMYY for -m. If the FQDN only points to a directory, with no basename specified, the filenames in the directory become just MMYY or MMYYYY filenames. Using wilma may have it's own requirements, but I suggest experimenting with the alias above to meet your requirements first. Dan Liston "TOTK.com Sports" wrote: > > Hello, > > I want to set up archives of my lists on v1.94.4 on RedHat 6.1 > > I made a file called test in /var/lib/majordomo/archives/test.archive, owned > by majordomo and added this to /etc/aliases: > > test-archive: "|/usr/lib/majordomo/wrapper archive2.pl > -f /var/lib/majordomo/archives/test.archive/test > -m -a" > > What else do I do? > > Also, how difficult is Wilma to implement? > > Thanks in advance for any help! > ---------- > -Ralph From majordomo-users-owner Wed Feb 28 06:39:57 2001 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-980720-1) id GAA13230; Wed, 28 Feb 2001 06:11:49 -0800 (PST) Received: from cypntx.ugsolutions.com (cypntx.ugsolutions.com [134.244.77.102]) by honor.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7762A17E8B for ; Wed, 28 Feb 2001 06:11:41 -0800 (PST) Received: by cypntx.ugsolutions.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) id ; Wed, 28 Feb 2001 06:05:32 -0800 Message-ID: From: "Spain, Harrison" To: "'majordomo-users@GreatCircle.com'" Subject: Using the bounce utility and the -expire switch Date: Wed, 28 Feb 2001 06:11:00 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk I may be the only one that bumped into this (I found at least one reference in the archives) but; I think the bounce man page (or perhaps the header in the bounce script itself) should warn the user that the bounce.config must set the "strip" variable to "no" if you want to use the "-expire" switch. The default for the "strip" variable is "yes" and if this setting remains, the "-expire" switch on the bounce utility will not work (it requires the date stamp to be entered into the subscription record) :-). I get so much help from this list and the archives that I thought I would share some even if it is old news ;-). Harrison From majordomo-users-owner Wed Feb 28 06:52:37 2001 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-980720-1) id XAA05279; Tue, 27 Feb 2001 23:46:22 -0800 (PST) Received: by honor.greatcircle.com (Postfix, from userid 1013) id 07B6017E8B; Tue, 27 Feb 2001 23:46:19 -0800 (PST) Received: from freaky2000.dyndns.org (9dyn32.breda.casema.net [195.96.116.32]) by honor.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 64FAB17E8C for ; Tue, 20 Feb 2001 14:18:02 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (freaky@localhost) by freaky2000.dyndns.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id XAA04773 for ; Tue, 20 Feb 2001 23:18:40 +0100 Date: Tue, 20 Feb 2001 23:18:39 +0100 (CET) From: Freaked Personality X-Sender: freaky@linux.paddo.trip To: majordomo-users@greatcircle.com Subject: Header info gets processed as commands (fwd) Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk -- Hey there, I've set up a mailing list and this seems to work fine. However if I use my Outlook Express to sent the subscribe command to pricelist-request@domain it will subscribe, but it will also give a lot of errors. The to marjodomo known commands process as they should though, I just wanna get rid of the errors and the help it sends probably due to these errors. Here is an example >>>> ------=_NextPart_000_0005_01C08122.E9D18EF0 **** Command '------=_nextpart_000_0005_01c08122.e9d18ef0' not recognized. >>>> Content-Type: text/plain; **** Command 'content-type:' not recognized. >>>> charset="iso-8859-1" **** Command 'charset="iso-8859-1"' not recognized. This time I haven't included the majordomo commands because I think they may stop me from reaching the mailinglist. If anyone knows how to let majordomo ignore this or stop it from trying to process it please lemme know. Also I have some other questions. My mailing list is called pricelist, and I the beginning I only had a info file (pricelist.info in the lists directory) this would get sent along with the subscribtion confirmation. Later I added pricelist.intro however if i mail the -intro- command to majordomo it says there is no intro HOWEVER if you subscribe now it sends the intro along instead of the info file intro file is pricelist.intro also in the lists directory. Still have one more question, due to the nature of this list I had to disable all the access commands (set them to closed 'cept info & intro). Now when I sent these commands it will tell me the command is disabled with the exception of which. I can still send which command only it will return no matches even if I use my own email addy exactly as subscribed. Isn't this supposed to say disabled also or is it the no matches the correct behaviour? Oh, in case it matters, I'm using majordomo 1.94.5 compiled by SuSE (6.4 distribution) I've checked the FAQ's, didn't see anything about these things though. However I skimmed it so I might have read over it. In that case I'm very sorry :-) Kind regards, Ferry van Steen From majordomo-users-owner Wed Feb 28 06:55:19 2001 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-980720-1) id XAA05322; Tue, 27 Feb 2001 23:47:26 -0800 (PST) Received: by honor.greatcircle.com (Postfix, from userid 1013) id 19F0C17E8B; Tue, 27 Feb 2001 23:47:24 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail.campuspipeline.com (unknown [206.81.132.105]) by honor.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7ED6017EAF for ; Wed, 21 Feb 2001 01:01:44 -0800 (PST) Received: from campuspipeline.com ([205.217.240.47]) by mail.campuspipeline.com (Netscape Messaging Server 4.15) with ESMTP id G93NQA00.V0X; Wed, 21 Feb 2001 02:01:22 -0700 Message-ID: <3A9383B3.593F38E5@campuspipeline.com> Date: Wed, 21 Feb 2001 03:00:35 -0600 From: Dan Liston Organization: iPlanet eCommerce Solutions, A Sun-Netscape Alliance X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.76 [en] (X11; U; Linux 2.2.17-14 i686) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Clayton Beaudoin Cc: majordomo-users@GreatCircle.COM Subject: Re: poster stuff References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk - Your restrict_post setting will allow multiple file names. Use one of the file names (listname) as your first allowed list of posters, and your second file name (listname-post) separated by colon or space from the first filename, be the list of post-but-dont-receive addresses. By giving the second list of address the listname-post file name, and putting that file in your "lists" directory, you have the ability to manipulate the members via [un]subscribe commands to majordomo. Dan Liston Clayton Beaudoin wrote: > > Hello all- > > I'm new to this list, but have been doing low level majordomo admin for > about a year now. We host over 500 lists for the northwest conservation > community. > > I have a group that would like to allow members to post to the interactive > list from multiple email addresses, but only receive postings at one > account. My solution is to add a posters entry in the restrict-post setting > of the config file and include the list roster within the posters file, > which also includes these additional address that don't actually want to > receive postings. > > To allow the list administrator to continue maintaining the roster > (receiving postings) as always (they aren't allowed to edit the posters file > directly, it goes through me), I'd like make the posters file point back at > the roster while including a few additional addresses. > > The question is this: Is there any way, via pearl command or majordomo > pointer, to essentially have the roster file be a subset of the posters > file? To make the posters file reference the roster? > > I may not be explaining this well, please let me know if I can clarify. > > Thanks for your help. > > Clayton > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > Clayton Beaudoin > Program Manager-ONE/Northwest > Online Networking for the Environment - www.onenw.org > 1080 W. Ewing Place, Suite #301 > Seattle, WA 98119-1422 > 206.286.1235 ext. 14 > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > Subscribe to ONEList, ONE/Northwest's monthly email newsletter about > using the Internet to protect the environment! > http://www.onenw.org/onelist/ > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > > "We cannot solve the problems that we have created with the same thinking > that created them." - Albert Einstein From majordomo-users-owner Wed Feb 28 07:07:03 2001 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-980720-1) id AAA05895; Wed, 28 Feb 2001 00:09:28 -0800 (PST) Received: from sonny.org (unknown [205.217.137.8]) by honor.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5E0E517E8B for ; Wed, 28 Feb 2001 00:09:21 -0800 (PST) Received: from netscape.com (daniel.sonny.org [205.217.137.65]) by sonny.org (8.8.8/8.8.3) with ESMTP id CAA27323 for ; Wed, 28 Feb 2001 02:09:39 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <3A9CB243.96581965@netscape.com> Date: Wed, 28 Feb 2001 02:09:39 -0600 From: Dan Liston Organization: iPlanet eCommerce Solutions, A Sun|Netscape Alliance X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.75 [en] (X11; U; Linux 2.2.16-3 i686) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Majordomo Users Subject: Re: path installation problems Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk If you want to try to patch a file by hand, you can read the patch file in one window and do the editing in another. The first two lines of the file refer to the files used to create the patch (or diff) file. In this case, config_parse.pl. (modified) and a copy of the original file, config_parse.pl.orig. Next, is a separator line, the line numbers of the original file followed by new line numbers related to the changed file. This is good only as a starting reference when dealing with already modified files. You can use the next three lines to confirm location when you find an "exact" match. Lines with - signs are removed and lines with + signs are added. Lastly, there are three more lines of unmodified text to verify you are in the right location. If this makes you uncomfortable in any way, do not attempt hand patching the code. If you are the adventurous type, make sure to keep working backups. *** config_parse.pl.orig Fri Jan 7 06:00:26 2000 --- config_parse.pl Sun Jun 4 05:12:35 2000 *************** *** 130,135 **** --- 130,138 ---- 'subject_prefix', '', # prefix for the subject line 'taboo_headers', '', # if a header matches, review message 'taboo_body', '', # if body matches, review message + 'non_member_bounce', "\001sender\001sender-owner\001#!\$default_non_member_bounce ? \$default_non_member_bounce : ''", + # non_member_bounce is sent to + # stuff for digest below 'digest_volume', '1', 'digest_issue', '1', [snip] above pasted only for visual effect and is not the complete file. Dan Liston davea@tecnet1.jcte.jcs.mil wrote: > > Hi, > > I have majordomo 1.94.5 on a Solaris 2.6 box. I downloaded a number of > patches from ftp.ccsf.org/majordomo-patches/1.94.5/majordomo.pl. Most of > the patch installations went well. But two of them are giving me fits. > I'm not a perl person yet, but, this majordomo is making me a fast learner. > Can someone explain what is going on with these patches and possible work arounds? I believe I know what needs to be done, I just need some clarification. > > # patch config_parse.pl < config_parse.pl-resend.1 > Looks like a new-style context diff. > The next patch looks like a new-style context diff. > Hunk #1 failed at line 564. > Hunk #2 failed at line 918. > 2 out of 2 hunks failed: saving rejects to config_parse.pl.rej > > #patch majordomo.pl < majordomo.pl.1 > Looks like a unified context diff. > Hunk #1 failed at line 173. > Hunk #2 failed at line 185. > 2 out of 2 hunks failed: saving rejects to majordomo.pl.rej > I can't seem to find a patch in there anywhere. From majordomo-users-owner Wed Feb 28 07:13:15 2001 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-980720-1) id XAA05402; Tue, 27 Feb 2001 23:50:27 -0800 (PST) Received: by honor.greatcircle.com (Postfix, from userid 1013) id 6124517E8B; Tue, 27 Feb 2001 23:50:25 -0800 (PST) Received: from ns1.psx.net (ns1.psx.net [207.90.223.2]) by honor.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B8C9117EAF for ; Wed, 21 Feb 2001 15:31:09 -0800 (PST) Received: from hemicuda (max6-16.max6.hou.infohwy.com [207.90.198.16]) by ns1.psx.net (8.9.3/8.9.2/inradio-1.0) with SMTP id SAA28334 for ; Wed Feb 21 18:39:33 2001 Message-ID: <3a4b01c09c60$23024a40$0500a8c0@infohwy.com> Reply-To: "Janet Jordan" From: "Janet Jordan" To: Subject: bouncing email Date: Wed, 21 Feb 2001 17:43:48 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_3A48_01C09C2D.D82DB770" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.3825.400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.3825.400 Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_3A48_01C09C2D.D82DB770 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable This may be a bit of a dicotomy! Does anyone know of a way to set sendmail such that when it receives = mail for a non-existant account (be it an ex-employee whose account has = been deactivated -- or just unsolicited mail to a non-existant email = address) that it automatically responds in the proper format with = "unsubscribe" -- from the proper email address? My mail queue is chock full of bounces (again and again) responding to = mailing lists for non-existant accounts. These mail servers try for 3 = or 4 days to deliver the same piece of undeliverable mail. Right now, = all undeliverable mail is going to thepostmaster -- who really is busy = enough without having to respond to each one personally!! I'd like to have bounces end up in some predefined location and = automatically respond with the unsubscribe from the targeted account - = without actually having to keep an account open for all possibilities. = Who could afford the time to do that?? What about the lists who send to "undisclosed recipients" -- how's = anyone to know who it was intended for, and thus make sure the = "unsubscribe" is issued appropriately? It's not like this particular mail even has a chance of making it to = anyone who will read it!! BTW -- I do make an effort to remove undeliverable mail from my lists, = in order to maybe make someone elses job more palatable. Is there some = setting in majordomo which will not attempt to send to undeliverables = more than twice? Any ideas? Thanks, Janet ------=_NextPart_000_3A48_01C09C2D.D82DB770 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
This may be a bit of a = dicotomy!
 
Does anyone know of a way to set = sendmail such that=20 when it receives mail for a non-existant account (be it an ex-employee = whose=20 account has been deactivated -- or just unsolicited mail to a=20 non-existant email address) that it automatically responds in the proper = format=20 with "unsubscribe" -- from the proper email address?
 
My mail queue is chock full of bounces = (again and=20 again) responding to mailing lists for non-existant accounts.  = These mail=20 servers try for 3 or 4 days to deliver the same piece of undeliverable=20 mail.  Right now, all undeliverable mail is going to = thepostmaster --=20 who really is busy enough without having to respond to each one=20 personally!!
 
I'd like to have bounces end up in some = predefined=20 location and automatically respond with the unsubscribe from the = targeted=20 account - without actually having to keep an account open for all=20 possibilities.  Who could afford the time to do that??
 
What about the lists who send to = "undisclosed=20 recipients" -- how's anyone to know who it was intended for, and thus = make sure=20 the "unsubscribe" is issued appropriately?
 
It's not like this particular mail even = has a=20 chance of making it to anyone who will read it!!
 
BTW -- I do make an effort to remove = undeliverable=20 mail from my lists, in order to maybe make someone elses job more=20 palatable.  Is there some setting in majordomo which will not = attempt to=20 send to undeliverables more than twice?
 
Any ideas?
 
Thanks,
Janet
 
 
------=_NextPart_000_3A48_01C09C2D.D82DB770-- From majordomo-users-owner Wed Feb 28 07:24:21 2001 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-980720-1) id XAA05517; Tue, 27 Feb 2001 23:54:28 -0800 (PST) Received: by honor.greatcircle.com (Postfix, from userid 1013) id 01B5317E8B; Tue, 27 Feb 2001 23:54:24 -0800 (PST) Received: from seashell.ncddc.noaa.gov (seashell.ncddc.noaa.gov [192.150.34.11]) by honor.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2EA5917E8E for ; Thu, 22 Feb 2001 07:38:35 -0800 (PST) Received: from MERMAID ([192.168.1.161]) by seashell.ncddc.noaa.gov (8.11.2/8.11.2) with SMTP id f1MFbD517962; Thu, 22 Feb 2001 09:37:14 -0600 Message-ID: <032501c09ce3$7c6dbe10$a101a8c0@ncddc.noaa.gov> From: "Simone L. Crider" To: Subject: HOSTILE ADDRESS Date: Thu, 22 Feb 2001 09:22:42 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0322_01C09CB1.01EDF3D0" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2919.6700 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6700 Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0322_01C09CB1.01EDF3D0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable - Hi! I'm new to majordomo & managing mailing lists. Now that I've gotten majordomo setup & working, I was testing out my subscribe & unsubscribe features of majordomo to a list called "test". For some reason, it will = not let me re-subscribe. =20 I subscribed, myself to the list "test" & then unsubscribed. I also = tested subscribing myself to another address & that worked, then I unsubscribed from the = other address. =20 I then tried to subscribe myself again & the other address w/in the same = message. That is when I rec'd the following error, MAJORDOMO ABORT (mj_majordomo)!! HOSTILE ADDRESS (tried to subscribe list) test Now it will not let either address subscribe. It is like my addresses = have been labeled as hostile addresses. Were they saved to a file w/in majordomo or = elsewhere? =20 Is there anyway to get around this? Is there another source that I can get more information about majordomo, other than the man page? Thanks in advance for any assistance. Simone Crider ------=_NextPart_000_0322_01C09CB1.01EDF3D0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
-
 
Hi!
 
I'm new to majordomo & managing mailing lists.  Now that = I've=20 gotten
majordomo setup & working, I was testing out my subscribe = &=20 unsubscribe
features of majordomo to a list called "test".  For = some=20 reason, it will not let me re-subscribe. 
 
I subscribed, myself to the list "test" & then = unsubscribed.  I=20 also tested subscribing
myself to another address & that worked, then I unsubscribed = from the=20 other address. 
I then tried to subscribe myself again & the other address w/in = the=20 same message.  That
is when I rec'd the following error,

MAJORDOMO ABORT (mj_majordomo)!!

HOSTILE ADDRESS (tried = to=20 subscribe list) test

Now it will not let either address = subscribe. =20 It is like my addresses have been labeled
as hostile addresses.  Were they saved to a file w/in = majordomo or=20 elsewhere? 
Is there anyway to get around this?

Is there another source = that I=20 can get more information about majordomo,
other than the man=20 page?

Thanks in advance for any assistance.

Simone=20 Crider


------=_NextPart_000_0322_01C09CB1.01EDF3D0-- From majordomo-users-owner Wed Feb 28 07:38:26 2001 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-980720-1) id AAA05934; Wed, 28 Feb 2001 00:12:23 -0800 (PST) Received: from sonny.org (unknown [205.217.137.8]) by honor.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A166B17E8B for ; Wed, 28 Feb 2001 00:12:14 -0800 (PST) Received: from netscape.com (daniel.sonny.org [205.217.137.65]) by sonny.org (8.8.8/8.8.3) with ESMTP id CAA27340 for ; Wed, 28 Feb 2001 02:12:32 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <3A9CB2F0.97BD0B1D@netscape.com> Date: Wed, 28 Feb 2001 02:12:32 -0600 From: Dan Liston Organization: iPlanet eCommerce Solutions, A Sun|Netscape Alliance X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.75 [en] (X11; U; Linux 2.2.16-3 i686) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Majordomo Users Subject: Re: Fw: two bounce mail issues Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk - By the looks of your message, I can't see anything that would keep it from being posted to the list unless it was still catching the "uns'scribe" on line 5 of the message body. This list is not moderated (to the best of my knowledge). Any time you are unsure of a message being "filtered" by majordomo, you can prevent/circumvent message body parsing by starting your message like I started this one. A blank line in the message body followed by a line containing only a dash (at the beginning of the line), and then the actual text of your message. As for managing bounces, Majordomo has no concept of undeliverable mail. It hands off deliveries to the MTA and forgets about it. There are a couple packages I have seen that help with this though. Autobounce and bouncefilter are freeware or opensource tools, and another one called smartbounce which is a commercial product. I do not endorse any commercial products, but if you want to shop and/or experiment, http://www.smartbounce.com/ #used to have a "lite" version http://www.thinkcoach.com/bouncefilter/bouncefilter2.1a11.tar.gz ftp://ftp.hpc.uh.edu/pub/majordomo/autobounce Dan Liston > Janet Jordan wrote: > > Dan, > I have attempted to submit this to the list a few times -- guess the first time I had unsubscribe in the address. Now, I'm not sure. Is the list moderated? If so, maybe this is not the type of thing you think is a valid question here?? If so, I'll stop trying. > > If it's not moderated, and the mail is just not being posted, can you help me out with why? > > Thanks, > Janet > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Janet Jordan > To: majordomo-users@GreatCircle.COM > Sent: Thursday, February 22, 2001 6:01 PM > Subject: two bounce mail issues > > This may be a bit of a dicotomy! > > Does anyone know of a way to set sendmail such that when it receives mail for a non-existant account (be it an ex-employee whose account has been deactivated -- or just unsolicited mail to a non-existant email address) that it automatically responds in the proper format with "uns'scribe" -- from the proper email address? > > My mail queue is chock full of bounces (again and again) responding to mailing lists for non-existant accounts. These mail servers try for 3 or 4 days to deliver the same piece of undeliverable mail. Right now, all undeliverable mail is going to thepostmaster -- who really is busy enough without having to respond to each one personally!! > > > > I'd like to have bounces end up in some predefined location and automatically respond with the unsubscribe from the targeted account - without actually having to keep an account open for all possibilities. Who could afford the time to do that?? > > What about the lists who send to "undisclosed recipients" -- how's anyone to know who it was intended for, and thus make sure the "unsubscribe" is issued appropriately? > > It's not like this particular mail even has a chance of making it to anyone who will read it!! > > BTW -- I do make an effort to remove undeliverable mail from my lists, in order to maybe make someone elses job more palatable. Is there some setting in majordomo which will not attempt to send to undeliverables more than twice? > > Any ideas? > > Thanks, > Janet From majordomo-users-owner Wed Feb 28 07:50:40 2001 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-980720-1) id AAA05834; Wed, 28 Feb 2001 00:07:24 -0800 (PST) Received: from sonny.org (unknown [205.217.137.8]) by honor.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 854A917E8B for ; Wed, 28 Feb 2001 00:07:12 -0800 (PST) Received: from netscape.com (daniel.sonny.org [205.217.137.65]) by sonny.org (8.8.8/8.8.3) with ESMTP id CAA27314 for ; Wed, 28 Feb 2001 02:07:21 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <3A9CB1B9.86C981F4@netscape.com> Date: Wed, 28 Feb 2001 02:07:21 -0600 From: Dan Liston Organization: iPlanet eCommerce Solutions, A Sun|Netscape Alliance X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.75 [en] (X11; U; Linux 2.2.16-3 i686) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Majordomo Users Subject: Re: setup help Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk I would like to offer some advice on the suggestions posted below. One, it should be mentioned that version 1.94.4 is more than 8 years old and has y2k bugs associated with archives and digests. You should really get 1.94.5, and if archiving, get the unofficial patch from ccsf to fix a y2k problem in archive2.pl Two, aliases are "usually" located in /etc unless you are running a non RPM installed version of sendmail 8.11.x. The recommended location of /etc/mail can easily be set by modifying sendmail.cf. Three, the only arguments to resend should be the "-l listname" and the delivery address(es). Quoting from the resend file, which also existed in the 1.94.4 resend file; # Most of these are defined via the list config file, so in general, # it's a really bad idea to hardcode them in the alias definition. # In a future version of majordomo, these will likely all be removed. # # Here's a description of them, just to be documentive. Note that the # only REQUIRED option is -l. Even that will probably go away in the future. # # -l REQUIRED: specify list name # -h specify host name # -f specify "sender" (default -request) # -M specify max message length to forward # -p add "Precedence: " header # -r add "Reply-To: " header # -I Bounce messages from users not listed in file # in colon-separated # -a approval password # -A moderate list (require "Approved:" for posting) # -R delete "Received:" lines # -s enable "administrivia" checks # -d debug; say it, but don't do it # -C alternate config file I recommend "against" the use of an @filename argument unless that @filename only contains "-l listname listname-outgoing,nobody". Everything else can be configured remotely via the config file which supercedes settings in the aliases anyway. Four, I do not see 2-digit years getting anyone in trouble for quite a few decades again, but we might as well set a good example for our grandchildren and use 4-digit years anyway. The alias for archiving uses a -m argument which only inludes a 2-digit year in the monthly archive name. A -M will change that to use 4-digit years in the filename. Dan Liston KompuKit wrote: > > KompuKit wrote: > > > > I've got Majordomo 1.94.4-8.i386.rpm installed on Mandrake 7.2 > > along with Sendmail 8.9.3 > > > > I created a list called : mandrakeusers > > I use webmin to manage it... > > > > I just got the following error back when testing it... > > how do I fix this? > > Check to see if your aliases file (usually located in /etc/mail) is > setup. It > should have something like: > > owner-mandrakeusers: kompukit@naisp.net,nobody > mandrakeusers: > "|/path/to/wrapper resend > @/path/to/lists/lists/mandrakeusers.resend" > mandrakeusers-approval: owner-mandrakeusers > mandrakeusers-itdo: > :include:/path/to/lists/lists/mandrakeusers,mandrakeusers-archive > owner-mandrakeusers-itdo: > owner-mandrakeusers > mandrakeusers-request: > "/path/to/wrapper request-answer mandrakeusers" > owner-mandrakeusers-request: owner-mandrakeusers > mandrakeusers-archive: "|/path/to/wrapper archive -f > /path/to/lists/archives/mandrakeusers.archive/ > mandrakeusers -m -a" > > Make sure that paths are correct and that you run newaliases > (successfully) > after you've modified the aliases file. > > In my experience, majordomo and sendmail offer some of the biggest > challenges to > configurations (compared to things like apache, postgres, mhonarc, 1/2 a > million > public-domain cgi-perl scripts. It takes a bit of time, but majordomo > does > work, and very well. > > -- > Max Pyziur BRAMA - Gateway Ukraine > pyz@brama.com http://www.brama.com/ > > > The original message was received at Sat, 10 Feb 2001 22:27:24 -0500 > > from 5812-001-229.024.popsite.net [66.19.1.229] > > > > ----- The following addresses had permanent fatal errors ----- > > > > > > ----- Transcript of session follows ----- > > ... while talking to kompukit.dyndns.org.: > > >>> RCPT To: > > <<< 550 ... User unknown > > 550 ... User unknown > > > > ----- Original message follows ----- > > > > Return-Path: > > Received: from naisp.net (5812-001-229.024.popsite.net [66.19.1.229]) > > by mail.naisp.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id WAA05118 > > for ; Sat, 10 Feb 2001 > > 22:27:24 -0500 > > Sender: kit > > Message-ID: <3A855D6E.FF40628B@naisp.net> > > Date: Sat, 10 Feb 2001 10:25:34 -0500 > > From: KompuKit > > Organization: KompuKit > > X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.75 [en] (X11; U; Linux 2.2.17-21mdk i586) > > X-Accept-Language: en > > MIME-Version: 1.0 > > To: MandrakeUsers > > Subject: test > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii > > Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > > > > test From majordomo-users-owner Wed Feb 28 08:07:28 2001 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-980720-1) id HAA14174; Wed, 28 Feb 2001 07:25:02 -0800 (PST) Received: from arm.mrball.net (unknown [209.85.130.137]) by honor.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8FB2B17EC3 for ; Wed, 28 Feb 2001 07:24:44 -0800 (PST) Received: from mrball.net (todd.mrball.net [192.168.18.3]) by arm.mrball.net (8.11.2/8.11.2) with ESMTP id f1SFOpd02730; Wed, 28 Feb 2001 07:24:55 -0800 Message-ID: <3A9D1842.7CD90764@mrball.net> Date: Wed, 28 Feb 2001 07:24:50 -0800 From: Todd Lyons X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (X11; U; Linux 2.2.14-zip i586) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Mike Winnett Cc: majordomo-users Subject: Re: any idea what this b0unce is? References: <002f01c0a085$7adde1b0$0101a8c0@mesh--computer> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk - Mike Winnett wrote: > > Any idea why I get a bounce with subject > > "Admin request of type /\buns\w*b/i at line 7 " > I can't see what the problem is. Does line 7" refer to the body or > does it include the header? Somebody put the word unsubscribe in the message. You can do one thing and they can do one thing. You: turn off administrivia in your listname.config file or They: put a "-" at the beginning of the message, like I did on this one. -- Blue skies... Todd | Get a bigger hammer! | Never mind me. I'm speaking out of | | http://www.mrball.net | my /dev/ass anyway. | | http://faq.mrball.net | --Gash Teshome | From majordomo-users-owner Wed Feb 28 08:38:45 2001 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-980720-1) id IAA14892; Wed, 28 Feb 2001 08:15:20 -0800 (PST) Received: from sonny.org (unknown [205.217.137.8]) by honor.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D9B7817EC0 for ; Wed, 28 Feb 2001 08:14:56 -0800 (PST) Received: from netscape.com (daniel.sonny.org [205.217.137.65]) by sonny.org (8.8.8/8.8.3) with ESMTP id KAA28151; Wed, 28 Feb 2001 10:14:59 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <3A9D2402.EC4861A7@netscape.com> Date: Wed, 28 Feb 2001 10:14:58 -0600 From: Dan Liston Organization: iPlanet eCommerce Solutions, A Sun|Netscape Alliance X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.75 [en] (X11; U; Linux 2.2.16-3 i686) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Robin Sanders Cc: majordomo-users@GreatCircle.COM Subject: Re: Users have problems getting OFF my lists References: <200102210158.UAA09300@math.buffalostate.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk It looks like your majordomo is setup up as uid 851 and gid 12. Not a configuration I recommend, or from reading the sendmail FAQ, does not look like they recommend either. Regardless, check your passwd and groups files to verify what uid:gid majordomo really is. Check your /etc/majordomo.cf to see where your lists are supposed to be ($listdir). Verify that both the passwd file and the majordomo.cf agree on where the $HOMEdir is. >From the majordomo $HOME directory, as root do; chown -R majordomo.majordomo * chown root wrapper cd lists # assuming it lives under majordomo's $HOME rm *.new L.* chmod 640 *.config Now, depending on what settings you have customized in your listname.config files, you may want to do writeconfig commands for each of your lists, then go back in and make sure none of the *config files have generic, out-of-the-box password settings, which would allow students or other access to your lists in a potentially dangerous way. Dan Liston Robin Sanders wrote: > > I'm using majordomo on a RedHat 6.2 system to manage a > small number of department lists. My students and faculty > members can subscribe and post to the lists without any > problem. > > But everytime someone attempts to "unsubscribe" to a list, I > get the following error message bounced back to my account > (as the majordomo caretaker): > > > > > MAJORDOMO ABORT (mj_majordomo)!! > > > > chown(851, 12, "/usr/local/majordomo-1.94.5/lists/mat164.new"): Operation not permitted > > > > Any ideas on what this means? This happens even when there is no > *.new or L.* file in my lists directory. > > Any ideas on how to fix the problem? > > By the way, majordomo has UID 851 and the group "mail" has GID 12. > > Thanks in advance for any help you can give me. > > Robin Sue Sanders > Associate Professor and part-time sys adm > > mail: Mathematics Department > Buffalo State College > 1300 Elmwood Ave. > Buffalo, NY 14222 > > email: sanders@math.buffalostate.edu > > phone: (716) 878-6506 From majordomo-users-owner Wed Feb 28 08:49:20 2001 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-980720-1) id HAA14143; Wed, 28 Feb 2001 07:24:29 -0800 (PST) Received: from pali.cps.cmich.edu (pali.cps.cmich.edu [141.209.131.81]) by honor.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id BE00F17EC0 for ; Wed, 28 Feb 2001 07:24:15 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (ishwar@localhost) by pali.cps.cmich.edu (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f1SFOTf11822; Wed, 28 Feb 2001 10:24:29 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from ishwar@pali.cps.cmich.edu) Date: Wed, 28 Feb 2001 10:24:29 -0500 (EST) From: Ish Rattan To: Robin Sanders Cc: majordomo-users@GreatCircle.COM, mjn@umn.edu Subject: Re: People can't get OFF my l*sts In-Reply-To: <200102232155.QAA14384@math.buffalostate.edu> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk Not exactly a solution but try a fresh install of majodomo. It is difficult to guess what could be wrong. Make sure that majordomo has its own uid/gid - ishwar On Fri, 23 Feb 2001, Robin Sanders wrote: > > Mike Neuharth wrote in response to my "uns_bscribe" problem: > > > Is /usr/local/majordomo-1.94.5/lists owned by the majordomo user? > > > > Looks to me like majordomo does not have create/write permissions in your > > lists directory... > > The lists directory (and majordomo's home directory) are both > owned by majordomo and have rwx permissions for the user. > > If majordomo couldn't write to the lists directory, then I suspect > that I'd also get errors when people tried to s_bscribe to my > lists as well. I only get errors when they try to uns_bscribe. > > For what it's worth, when I get one of these errors, I notice that > a *.new file (and sometimes an L.*) gets created. The *.new and > L.* files are owned by user "mail" and have group "mail." > > Again, thanks in advance for any insight, > > Robin Sue Sanders > Associate Professor and part-time sys-adm > > mail: Mathematics Department > Buffalo State College > 1300 Elmwood Ave. > Buffalo, NY 14222 > > email: sanders@math.buffalostate.edu > > phone: (716) 878-6506 > > > > > > From majordomo-users-owner Wed Feb 28 09:35:02 2001 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-980720-1) id JAA15660; Wed, 28 Feb 2001 09:07:36 -0800 (PST) Received: from sonny.org (unknown [205.217.137.8]) by honor.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8D5BD17EC0 for ; Wed, 28 Feb 2001 09:07:18 -0800 (PST) Received: from netscape.com (daniel.sonny.org [205.217.137.65]) by sonny.org (8.8.8/8.8.3) with ESMTP id LAA28261 for ; Wed, 28 Feb 2001 11:07:33 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <3A9D3054.4DE0DB5F@netscape.com> Date: Wed, 28 Feb 2001 11:07:32 -0600 From: Dan Liston Organization: iPlanet eCommerce Solutions, A Sun|Netscape Alliance X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.75 [en] (X11; U; Linux 2.2.16-3 i686) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: majordomo-users@GreatCircle.COM Subject: Re: poster stuff References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk The "configurable by email" nature of majordomo suggests that Doug is more on track to this solution than is Abalone. If/when at all possible you want every element of a majordomo list to be accessible remotely. Not necessarily to users, but to the admins. While Abalone's method will get the job done, it causes more work than is necessary IMHO. Why go to all that work with perl and cron when simply providing both names on the restrict_post line would work? Since restrict_post will allow multiple filenames on the RHS of the = (space or colon separated of course), you have a natural solution built right in. Majordomo creates *.config files for every file in the lists directory that does not already contain a (.) in the filename. We can use this to our benefit. If we call the file listname-additional or listname-nomail or listname-extra or my favorite, listname-post, we gain the ability to add and remove users from this file remotely. All additions and removals from a filename that majordomo knows about are done with commands to "majordomo". Therefore, no need for an alias. By not creating an alias for listname-post, only majordomo (but not sendmail) knows about the list. This is good, because these addresses never want mail anyway. The key here, is that the listname-post file must still be created in the lists directory with majordomo ownership for majordomo to "know" about it. To tie all this together, you would have a line in listname.config like restrict_post = listname:listname-post As a caveat, I would recommend changing the admin and approve passwords in the listname-post.config as soon as possible after creating the file. Without using this method, as Abalone suggests, you create a burden on the admins everytime you want to modify the "post only" file. For the cost of one additional .config file in a directory, I think it is a worth while expense keeping the admin's job easier, and putting the burden on the list-owner/moderator where it belongs. Dan Liston The Abalone wrote: > > On Wed, 21 Feb 2001, Doug Brewer wrote: > > What I did was create a new list, listname-nomail, which is really > > just a list of subscribers, a config and an alias. No mail is sent > > through the list, and no mail is sent from the list. The subscriber > > list is then included in the restrict_post line with the regular list. > > The solution we're using is a bit more involved, and does not (at this > time) allow the listowners to directly add or remove no-mail users. > > There are three files in place for each list that requests this ability. > They are [list], [list].additional, and [list].approved. The [list] file > is the traditional subscriber list. The [list].additional file is a list > of addresses that would like to post to the list, but not receive messages > in their boxes. (Work accounts, whatever.) The [list].approved file is > a generated file (we use a small perl script run from the crontab) which > is basically the same as: > > cat [list] > [list].approved ; cat [list].additional >> [list].approved > > The [list].approved file is then set to be the restrict_post value. > > The benefits of this approach are less lists to configure/manage, as the > "nomail" feature becomes a function of config files relative to the > existing lists. The drawback is that because there is no way for > listowners to directly edit those files, it increases a burden on your > sysadmins. > > -CA From majordomo-users-owner Wed Feb 28 11:01:40 2001 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-980720-1) id JAA16229; Wed, 28 Feb 2001 09:50:58 -0800 (PST) Received: from sonny.org (unknown [205.217.137.8]) by honor.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D7D9217EBC for ; Wed, 28 Feb 2001 09:50:49 -0800 (PST) Received: from netscape.com (daniel.sonny.org [205.217.137.65]) by sonny.org (8.8.8/8.8.3) with ESMTP id LAA28360; Wed, 28 Feb 2001 11:51:01 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <3A9D3A85.C732C5CC@netscape.com> Date: Wed, 28 Feb 2001 11:51:01 -0600 From: Dan Liston Organization: iPlanet eCommerce Solutions, A Sun|Netscape Alliance X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.75 [en] (X11; U; Linux 2.2.16-3 i686) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: scottb@jacksonesd.k12.or.us Cc: "Majordomo-Users@GreatCircle.COM" Subject: Re: changing owner-list to owner_list References: <3A95C033.68B77708@jacksonesd.k12.or.us> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk Before you go crazy with _ (underscore) characters, you better read ALL the documentation on majordomo. The automatically generated welcome message is in the majordomo (the file). You would be better off leaving the address as "standard" as possible to all majordomos, and just create an alias for that standard address if you are going to use something else. Dan Liston scottb@jacksonesd.k12.or.us wrote: > > We have a standardized email addresses as user_name@our_domain. > Majordomo likes owner-list_name@our_domain. I am thinking I can change > this in a config file, but doesn't look like it lives in majordomo.cf, > majordomo.aliases, or the individual list.config files. Do you know > where can I modify the automatically generated welcome message (not the > intro)? From majordomo-users-owner Wed Feb 28 11:10:27 2001 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-980720-1) id KAA16534; Wed, 28 Feb 2001 10:03:02 -0800 (PST) Received: from sonny.org (unknown [205.217.137.8]) by honor.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id BFFBF17EBC for ; Wed, 28 Feb 2001 10:02:48 -0800 (PST) Received: from netscape.com (daniel.sonny.org [205.217.137.65]) by sonny.org (8.8.8/8.8.3) with ESMTP id MAA28391; Wed, 28 Feb 2001 12:02:57 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <3A9D3D51.2100660D@netscape.com> Date: Wed, 28 Feb 2001 12:02:57 -0600 From: Dan Liston Organization: iPlanet eCommerce Solutions, A Sun|Netscape Alliance X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.75 [en] (X11; U; Linux 2.2.16-3 i686) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "Simone L. Crider" Cc: majordomo-users@GreatCircle.COM Subject: Re: HOSTILE ADDRESS References: <032501c09ce3$7c6dbe10$a101a8c0@ncddc.noaa.gov> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk The best sources of information on majordomo are the man pages, the files in the documentation directory (Doc or /usr/doc/majordom-${VERSION}), the FAQ and README are a must, the list-owner-info is excellent, and the comments in the perl code itself is very insightful. Other than that, the archives for this mailing list can be very useful too. As for your HOSTILE address, what address are you subscribing with? Dan Liston > "Simone L. Crider" wrote: > > - > > Hi! > > I'm new to majordomo & managing mailing lists. Now that I've gotten > majordomo setup & working, I was testing out my subscribe & unsubscribe > features of majordomo to a list called "test". For some reason, it will not let me re-subscribe. > > I subscribed, myself to the list "test" & then unsubscribed. I also tested subscribing > myself to another address & that worked, then I unsubscribed from the other address. > I then tried to subscribe myself again & the other address w/in the same message. That > is when I rec'd the following error, > > MAJORDOMO ABORT (mj_majordomo)!! > > HOSTILE ADDRESS (tried to subscribe list) test > > Now it will not let either address subscribe. It is like my addresses have been labeled > as hostile addresses. Were they saved to a file w/in majordomo or elsewhere? > Is there anyway to get around this? > > Is there another source that I can get more information about majordomo, > other than the man page? > > Thanks in advance for any assistance. > > Simone Crider From majordomo-users-owner Wed Feb 28 11:33:09 2001 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-980720-1) id JAA16394; Wed, 28 Feb 2001 09:56:29 -0800 (PST) Received: from sonny.org (unknown [205.217.137.8]) by honor.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B2B6617EBC for ; Wed, 28 Feb 2001 09:56:17 -0800 (PST) Received: from netscape.com (daniel.sonny.org [205.217.137.65]) by sonny.org (8.8.8/8.8.3) with ESMTP id LAA28372; Wed, 28 Feb 2001 11:56:20 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <3A9D3BC4.75FAEE5A@netscape.com> Date: Wed, 28 Feb 2001 11:56:20 -0600 From: Dan Liston Organization: iPlanet eCommerce Solutions, A Sun|Netscape Alliance X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.75 [en] (X11; U; Linux 2.2.16-3 i686) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Freaked Personality Cc: majordomo-users@GreatCircle.COM Subject: Re: Header info gets processed as commands (fwd) References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk Part of the problem lies in the fact that you are not sending plain text messages to majordomo. Even though the Context-Type says it is, it is coming in as an attachment rather than part of the body of the message. Second, you might want to look over the list-owner-info file that comes with majordomo. It should clear up what you are trying to do with the .intro file. Dan Liston Freaked Personality wrote: > > -- > > Hey there, > > I've set up a mailing list and this seems to work fine. However if I use > my Outlook Express to sent the subscribe command to > pricelist-request@domain it will subscribe, but it will also give a lot of > errors. The to marjodomo known commands process as they should though, I > just wanna get rid of the errors and the help it sends probably due to > these errors. Here is an example > > >>>> ------=_NextPart_000_0005_01C08122.E9D18EF0 > **** Command '------=_nextpart_000_0005_01c08122.e9d18ef0' not recognized. > >>>> Content-Type: text/plain; > **** Command 'content-type:' not recognized. > >>>> charset="iso-8859-1" > **** Command 'charset="iso-8859-1"' not recognized. > > This time I haven't included the majordomo commands because I think they > may stop me from reaching the mailinglist. If anyone knows how to let > majordomo ignore this or stop it from trying to process it please lemme > know. > > Also I have some other questions. > > My mailing list is called pricelist, and I the beginning I only had a info > file (pricelist.info in the lists directory) this would get sent along > with the subscribtion confirmation. Later I added pricelist.intro however > if i mail the -intro- command to majordomo it says there is no intro > HOWEVER if you subscribe now it sends the intro along instead of the info > file intro file is pricelist.intro also in the lists directory. > > Still have one more question, due to the nature of this list I had to > disable all the access commands (set them to closed 'cept info & > intro). Now when I sent these commands it will tell me the command is > disabled with the exception of which. I can still send which command only > it will return no matches even if I use my own email addy exactly as > subscribed. Isn't this supposed to say disabled also or is it the no > matches the correct behaviour? > > Oh, in case it matters, I'm using majordomo 1.94.5 compiled by SuSE (6.4 > distribution) > > I've checked the FAQ's, didn't see anything about these things though. > However I skimmed it so I might have read over it. In that case I'm very > sorry :-) > > Kind regards, > > Ferry van Steen From majordomo-users-owner Wed Feb 28 11:45:45 2001 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-980720-1) id JAA16094; Wed, 28 Feb 2001 09:45:02 -0800 (PST) Received: from sonny.org (unknown [205.217.137.8]) by honor.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8E63017EBC for ; Wed, 28 Feb 2001 09:44:47 -0800 (PST) Received: from netscape.com (daniel.sonny.org [205.217.137.65]) by sonny.org (8.8.8/8.8.3) with ESMTP id LAA28340; Wed, 28 Feb 2001 11:44:52 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <3A9D3914.91FD2C1E@netscape.com> Date: Wed, 28 Feb 2001 11:44:52 -0600 From: Dan Liston Organization: iPlanet eCommerce Solutions, A Sun|Netscape Alliance X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.75 [en] (X11; U; Linux 2.2.16-3 i686) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "Simone L. Crider" Cc: Todd Lyons , majordomo-users@GreatCircle.COM Subject: Re: HOSTILE ADDRESS References: <032501c09ce3$7c6dbe10$a101a8c0@ncddc.noaa.gov> <3A9588D2.FB3118E2@mrball.net> <040301c09d18$cac26f90$a101a8c0@ncddc.noaa.gov> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk First, don't send commands to majordomo in rich text or HTML format. Use "plain text" messages to mailing lists, not just majordomo. Second, hostile address are those with / characters. Double check what you are sending to majordomo in the subxribe command. Dan Liston "Simone L. Crider" wrote: > > - > > Hi Todd! > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Todd Lyons" > > > > I've not ever seen this before, so I anxiously await what others say. > > > > I found a way around it, by manually adding my address to the list, test. > This works. I've been testing the other aliases that I've setup & sending > requests to majordomo & so far, it's OK. However, I've been looking back > through the archives for the following header that is returned w/ each > request to majordomo, > > -- > > >>>> This is a multi-part message in MIME format. > **** Command 'this' not recognized. > >>>> > >>>> ------=_NextPart_000_03A5_01C09CD5.33345A50 > **** Command '------=_nextpart_000_03a5_01c09cd5.33345a50' not recognized. > >>>> Content-Type: text/plain; > **** Command 'content-type:' not recognized. > >>>> charset="iso-8859-1" > **** Command 'charset="iso-8859-1"' not recognized. > >>>> Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable > **** Command 'content-transfer-encoding:' not recognized. > >>>> > >>>> which > > The header seems to grow w/ each request. Is there a way to turn-off this > header? Or is this a side-effect from the way I added myself to the list. > > > > > It's a perl script, so you can always browse the source code. Not a > > very good answer in that it depends on your technical savvy, but it is a > > viable option. > > > > Unfortunately, I don't know perl very well, guess now's a good time to learn > more! > > Thanks again, > > Simone From majordomo-users-owner Wed Feb 28 11:55:47 2001 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-980720-1) id JAA15969; Wed, 28 Feb 2001 09:33:52 -0800 (PST) Received: from sonny.org (unknown [205.217.137.8]) by honor.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A011017EBC for ; Wed, 28 Feb 2001 09:33:41 -0800 (PST) Received: from netscape.com (daniel.sonny.org [205.217.137.65]) by sonny.org (8.8.8/8.8.3) with ESMTP id LAA28304; Wed, 28 Feb 2001 11:33:40 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <3A9D3673.24DEE97B@netscape.com> Date: Wed, 28 Feb 2001 11:33:39 -0600 From: Dan Liston Organization: iPlanet eCommerce Solutions, A Sun|Netscape Alliance X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.75 [en] (X11; U; Linux 2.2.16-3 i686) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "Simone L. Crider" Cc: majordomo-users@GreatCircle.COM Subject: Re: Fw: Problems installing majordomo on Linux 6.2 system References: <006b01c09c2f$127ad650$a101a8c0@ncddc.noaa.gov> <3A942659.A66687A8@mrball.net> <016201c09c45$4765e330$a101a8c0@ncddc.noaa.gov> <3A942D42.4B01692A@mrball.net> <024801c09c4a$04a92200$a101a8c0@ncddc.noaa.gov> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk RedHat 6.2 comes with sendmail 8.9.3. If you install the RPM for version 8.11.2, be sure to also install the new sendmail-cf and sendmail-doc RPMs with the -U (update) argument to rpm. In my opinion, these should all be one RPM, but who am I to complain? For a generic test list, the aliases you created look "OK", but I would take some undocumented steps to tighten up security some. 1) Never call your delivery address listname-list (too easy for spammers to guess). 2) Use ,nobody in your listname alias so the delivery address is not advertised in the received: headers of your distributed mail. test: "|/usr/local/majordomo-1.94.5/wrapper resend -l test test-list,nobody" 3) I would suggest a test-owner alias that refers back to owner-test. test-owner: owner-test Dan Liston "Simone L. Crider" wrote: > > Sorry Todd, > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Todd Lyons" > > Call it a lucky guess. It would have been a "for sure" answer if you > > had included somewhere in your original questions that you had just > > installed sendmail 8.11.2 from source (most people don't realize exactly > > how different rpm's can be from the source install). > > > > I guess the sendmail 8.11.2 info was too far buried in my original message, > that I forwarded. I should have made that clearer from the start. > > > > > Post your aliases to the list and have the group look them over. If > > anything needs to be changed or tweaked, we'll let you know. > > > > The following are the aliases that I now have setup for testing, > > # Aliases for running Majordomo List Mgr. > majordomo: "|/usr/local/majordomo-1.94.5/wrapper majordomo" > owner-majordomo: ncddcadm > majordomo-owner: ncddcadm > test: "|/usr/local/majordomo-1.94.5/wrapper resend -l test > test-list" > test-list: :include:/usr/local/majordomo-1.94.5/lists/test > owner-test: ncddcadm > test-request: "|/usr/local/majordomo-1.94.5/wrapper majordomo -l > test" > test-approval: ncddcadm > > Majordomo is new to me, so I assume that everything is working properly. > Please let me know if there is something else I should do before setting up > a user's list? > > Thanks again for the help! > > Simone From majordomo-users-owner Wed Feb 28 14:25:30 2001 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-980720-1) id OAA19826; Wed, 28 Feb 2001 14:06:20 -0800 (PST) Received: from sonny.org (unknown [205.217.137.8]) by honor.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id CBD5217EC6 for ; Wed, 28 Feb 2001 14:06:10 -0800 (PST) Received: from netscape.com (daniel.sonny.org [205.217.137.65]) by sonny.org (8.8.8/8.8.3) with ESMTP id QAA28805; Wed, 28 Feb 2001 16:06:04 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <3A9D764C.9F7916FB@netscape.com> Date: Wed, 28 Feb 2001 16:06:04 -0600 From: Dan Liston Organization: iPlanet eCommerce Solutions, A Sun|Netscape Alliance X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.75 [en] (X11; U; Linux 2.2.16-3 i686) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Yuriy Nazarok Cc: Majordomo-Users@GreatCircle.COM Subject: Re: Unusual System Events References: <17587969803.20010228134238@ulys.kiev.ua> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk It does not look that unusual to me. What version of sendmail are you running? What OS? Dan Liston Yuriy Nazarok wrote: > > Unusual System Events > =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= > Feb 28 13:41:25 www sendmail[22967]: f1SBfPT22967: clone f1SBfPS22967, owner=owner-spfu_mailer > Feb 28 13:49:50 www sendmail[23064]: f1SBno423064: clone f1SBnk423063, owner=owner-spfu_mailer > > But list functions corect as I see. What does it means? From majordomo-users-owner Wed Feb 28 14:40:52 2001 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-980720-1) id OAA19913; Wed, 28 Feb 2001 14:14:42 -0800 (PST) Received: from sonny.org (unknown [205.217.137.8]) by honor.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 25F7E17EC6 for ; Wed, 28 Feb 2001 14:14:35 -0800 (PST) Received: from netscape.com (daniel.sonny.org [205.217.137.65]) by sonny.org (8.8.8/8.8.3) with ESMTP id QAA28817; Wed, 28 Feb 2001 16:14:49 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <3A9D7859.F7025BED@netscape.com> Date: Wed, 28 Feb 2001 16:14:49 -0600 From: Dan Liston Organization: iPlanet eCommerce Solutions, A Sun|Netscape Alliance X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.75 [en] (X11; U; Linux 2.2.16-3 i686) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Marcelo Conde Foscarini Cc: Majordomo-Users@GreatCircle.COM Subject: Re: bounce message References: <00af01c09e31$cf828f00$8a8dfbc8@marcelof> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk Marcelo Conde Foscarini wrote: > > Sendmail 8.8.5 > Perl 5.004_04 > Linux version 2.0.36 > Majordomo 1.94.5 It looks like you are running very old versions of your kernel and sendmail. Have you considered updating these? > > Problem: when I send an email to my list it's bounced with error message > BOUNCE diretoria@viairc.com: Non-member submission from ["Marcelo Conde > Foscarini" ] We might need more information from this. Is your list moderated? How about including the full message including headers of the BOUNCE? > > The problem is that my restrict_post option is clear, because I want that > everyone can post messages to this list. Even with nothing set in > restrict_post section, all messages from all persons that are not in the > subscribers list are getting bounced with this error. If you recently updated majordomo from an older version, you may want to send a writeconfig command to majordomo for each of your lists to make sure config files are up to date. Specifically, reply_to = restrict_post = moderator = moderated = no sender = owner-yourlistname Also, check your taboo filters in both the .config files and in the main majordomo.cf file. Dan Liston From majordomo-users-owner Wed Feb 28 14:58:05 2001 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-980720-1) id NAA19550; Wed, 28 Feb 2001 13:46:30 -0800 (PST) Received: from interlap.com.ar (unknown [196.32.67.132]) by honor.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2E08717EC6 for ; Wed, 28 Feb 2001 13:46:18 -0800 (PST) Received: from modem116-as3.sanjuan.sinectis.com.ar ([216.244.230.116] helo=desarrollo.interlap.com.ar) by interlap.com.ar with esmtp (Exim 3.16 #1 (Linux)) id 14YETC-0007n0-00; Wed, 28 Feb 2001 18:49:15 -0300 Message-Id: <4.3.2.7.2.20010228083328.00ab33b0@pop3.interlap.com.ar> X-Sender: especiales@pop3.interlap.com.ar X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 4.3.2 Date: Wed, 28 Feb 2001 17:06:29 -0300 To: Majordomo-Users@greatcircle.com, majordomo@elistas.net From: "Ricardo M. Morales" Subject: mj don't recognize this message / mj no reconoce este mensaje Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk english: Hi: i don't know why majordomo don't recognize this command sended by user.- next is full message, edited for preserve user's privacy.- in this message, original command line include a white space right= listname.- list name is correct, but server answer, only on this case, that list name is unknown. i configure global_taboo_headers for bounce "multipart"= messages. this message include multipart content type, but so another messages received by this server, and all others works fine tks in advance and greetings.- ----- espa=F1ol: Hola: no se por qu=E9 majordomo no reconoce este comando enviado por un= usuario.- A continuaci=F3n est=E1 el mensaje completo, editado para preservar la=20 privacidad del usuario.- En este mensaje, la l=EDnea con el comando original incluye un espacio en=20 blanco a la derecha del nombre de la lista.- el nombre de la lista es correcto, pero el servidor contesta, solamente en= =20 este caso, que el nombre de la lista es desconocido. yo configur=E9=20 global_taboo_headers para rebotar los mensajes con "multipart".- Este mensaje incluye contenido de tipo multipart, pero tambi=E9n lo tienen= =20 otros mensajes recibidos en el servidor, y en los otros casos no hubo=20 problemas.- Gracias desde ya y saludos.- ----- Return-Path: From: "Name" To: Subject: Date: Tue, 27 Feb 2001 22:08:56 -0300 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=3D"----=3D_NextPart_000_0034_01C0A109.E0F1E260" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 subscribe tiflogrupo ----- Frase de la Semana: "La vida es lo que nos pasa, mientras planificamos nuestra existencia" (AutoDelirium) "Ricardo M. Morales" - ICQ#: 18484567 San Juan - Argentina - La Provincia del Sol Conoce las Listas INTEGRAR y ESPECIAL: Cuarto a=F1o integrando y compartiendo a diario temas sobre Discapacidad y Educaci=F3n Especial Listas Integradas al Anillo de Grupos Virtuales Especiales http://grupos.especiales.org/listas Promoci=F3n Milenio Especial: Libro "Inform=E1tica y (dis)Capacidad" Valores: 1 Ejemplar x $14 - 3 x $39 - 5 x $60 - 10 x $110 Oferta V=E1lida desde el 01/12/2000 hasta el 28/02/2001 Pedidos: http://ventas.especiales.org/pedidos Consultas: info@ventas.especiales.org Web: http://ventas.especiales.org/articulos/index.php?_Opcion=3DLibro-InfDis Info Automatizada por E-mail: enviar-libro-infdis@especiales.org From majordomo-users-owner Wed Feb 28 15:11:10 2001 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-980720-1) id OAA20405; Wed, 28 Feb 2001 14:41:58 -0800 (PST) Received: from sonny.org (unknown [205.217.137.8]) by honor.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 792BE17EC6 for ; Wed, 28 Feb 2001 14:41:49 -0800 (PST) Received: from netscape.com (daniel.sonny.org [205.217.137.65]) by sonny.org (8.8.8/8.8.3) with ESMTP id QAA28870; Wed, 28 Feb 2001 16:41:47 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <3A9D7EAA.BAF4B1BE@netscape.com> Date: Wed, 28 Feb 2001 16:41:46 -0600 From: Dan Liston Organization: iPlanet eCommerce Solutions, A Sun|Netscape Alliance X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.75 [en] (X11; U; Linux 2.2.16-3 i686) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Tom Rawson Cc: majordomo-users@GreatCircle.COM Subject: Re: Virtual Hosting, Modifying Wrapper References: <200102280419.XAA24192@barry.mail.mindspring.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk What you are trying to do must be done in sendmail first, and majordomo second. In sendmail you need to utilize the virtusertable for each list being hosted, and in majordomo you need separate majordomo.cf files for each domain. I would recommend separate list directories for each domain too. Dan Liston Tom Rawson wrote: > > I am virtually hosting a couple of domains under a master (ie all at the > same IP). Two virtually hosted domains use majordomo lists (1.94.4, I > have 1.94.5 source as well). I would like to separate them so they use > different config files, principally to set $whereami differently so that > things end up at the right domain. > > I know I can specify a different config file on the resend command line > but this does not seem sufficient as part of the problem is that > majordomo's responses to the various list owners are not always going to > the right domain. > > I can see a number of ways to address this if I recompile wrapper, but I'd > like to know if there is a simpler method. > > Also, if there is not ... I have some problems with recompiling wrapper. > The version of wrapper currently in use on my system, provided by the ISP > and in use with 1.94.4, is about 1K long, which makes sense given the > 1.94.5 wrapper source I've looked at. It's not a complex program. > However when I compile with the 1.94.5 source just as a test I get a 58K > file! I'm a C programmer and I can go generate maps and dig into this, > but I'm not familiar with gcc and I thought maybe someone knew of a quick > explanation. Presumably the link is pulling in something I don't need, > and/or the compiler is generating debug info by default (though that seems > unlikely). I'm on BSDI 3.1 and the installed compiler is gcc 1.42. > > Thanks for any tips. > > ---------- > Tom Rawson trawson@jpsoft.com > JP Software Inc. http://www.jpsoft.com/ From majordomo-users-owner Wed Feb 28 15:25:27 2001 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-980720-1) id PAA20772; Wed, 28 Feb 2001 15:03:08 -0800 (PST) Received: from jpsoft.net (jpsoft.net [192.41.14.252]) by honor.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 71CF117EC6 for ; Wed, 28 Feb 2001 15:03:01 -0800 (PST) Received: from DINO (adsl-151-203-47-37.bostma.adsl.bellatlantic.net [151.203.47.37]) by jpsoft.net (8.8.5) id QAA17761; Wed, 28 Feb 2001 16:02:47 -0700 (MST) X-Authentication-Warning: jpsoft.net: Host adsl-151-203-47-37.bostma.adsl.bellatlantic.net [151.203.47.37] claimed to be DINO From: "Tom Rawson" To: majordomo-users@GreatCircle.COM Date: Wed, 28 Feb 2001 18:04:12 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Subject: Re: Virtual Hosting, Modifying Wrapper Message-ID: <3A9D3D9C.11341.2599BDB9@localhost> In-reply-to: <3A9D7EAA.BAF4B1BE@netscape.com> X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Win32 (v3.12c) Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk Dan Liston wrote: > What you are trying to do must be done in sendmail first, and majordomo > second. In sendmail you need to utilize the virtusertable for each list > being hosted, and in majordomo you need separate majordomo.cf files for > each domain. I would recommend separate list directories for each domain > too. Thanks Dan. Sendmail is all set ... on this provider's system we use a file called virtmaps but I believe it is the same as what you describe as virtusertable. The format is similar to aliases, but no colons and no more than one address on the right hand side. Eg: name1@domain.com mailbox name2@domain.com outside_name@otherdomain.com domain.com catch-all_mailbox This is already set up and working. I would be happy to use separate Lists directories and agree that I need to use separate majordomo.cf files. The issue is with wrapper -- it assumes one majordomo.cf file and I can't seem to recompile it properly -- .I get a huge (58K) output file from the compile. Once it is selectable I can easily do whatever I want with the directories. Do you have any thoughts on that? Anyone else? Thanks again. ---------- Tom Rawson trawson@jpsoft.com JP Software Inc. http://www.jpsoft.com/ From majordomo-users-owner Wed Feb 28 15:40:27 2001 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-980720-1) id PAA20872; Wed, 28 Feb 2001 15:12:46 -0800 (PST) Received: from relay1.olypen.com (relay1.olypen.com [208.200.248.8]) by honor.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 818E717EC6 for ; Wed, 28 Feb 2001 15:12:40 -0800 (PST) Received: from worthless.poeinc.com (worthless.poeinc.com [208.200.251.120]) by relay1.olypen.com (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f1SNDWP14934; Wed, 28 Feb 2001 15:13:32 -0800 Received: from localhost (eric@localhost) by worthless.poeinc.com (8.11.2/8.11.2) with ESMTP id f1SNCZN04474; Wed, 28 Feb 2001 15:12:35 -0800 Date: Wed, 28 Feb 2001 15:12:35 -0800 (PST) From: erich@olypen.com X-Sender: eric@worthless.poeinc.com To: Todd Lyons Cc: majordomo-users@GreatCircle.COM Subject: Re: :include: exposed In-Reply-To: <3A9D17CE.E8A4EE35@mrball.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk On Wed, 28 Feb 2001, Todd Lyons wrote: > But the change above only hides it. You still need to prevent any smart > hax0rs from guessing and getting it right. Look in /etc/mail and figure > out how to use the utilities in there to bounce email to a specific > address (but it has to allow it to work internally). I can't recall the > filenames now, somebody else will post it soon I hope. Hi Todd, This ought to do it: #cat /etc/mail/aliases.majordomo majordomo: "|/usr/local/majordomo/wrapper majordomo" owner-majordomo: eric majordomo-owner: eric noshow: /dev/null # test mailing list for (duh!) testing... test: "|/usr/local/majordomo/wrapper resend -l test test-mlxz35LRl,noshow" test-mlxz35LRl: :include:/usr/local/majordomo/lists/test owner-test: eric test-owner: eric test-approval: eric test-request: "|/usr/local/majordomo/wrapper majordomo -l test" I just use the mkpasswd command to generate a random string of 9 characters. Pretty unguessable. Regards, Eric From majordomo-users-owner Wed Feb 28 15:52:21 2001 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-980720-1) id OAA20513; Wed, 28 Feb 2001 14:52:24 -0800 (PST) Received: from sonny.org (unknown [205.217.137.8]) by honor.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id AD2F217EC6 for ; Wed, 28 Feb 2001 14:52:16 -0800 (PST) Received: from netscape.com (daniel.sonny.org [205.217.137.65]) by sonny.org (8.8.8/8.8.3) with ESMTP id QAA28891; Wed, 28 Feb 2001 16:52:31 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <3A9D812F.B8138948@netscape.com> Date: Wed, 28 Feb 2001 16:52:31 -0600 From: Dan Liston Organization: iPlanet eCommerce Solutions, A Sun|Netscape Alliance X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.75 [en] (X11; U; Linux 2.2.16-3 i686) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Jonathan Byrne Cc: majordomo-users@GreatCircle.COM Subject: Re: Broken pipes w/sendmail 8.11.1 on FreeBSD 4.2 References: <20010228131258.E1519@gol.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk I would say this is a configuration error in majordomo. You should be using "subscribe_policy = (open|closed)+confirm" to validate the users. Mail cannot be delivered to a domain that does not have one or the other of MX or A records. (or are you saying the domain can be found by looking up a CNAME record?) If you have an address in your list that is not resolveable, you should just delete the entry. There is no point in fighting what you have no control over. If you want to test the address before deleting it, use `sendmail -bv address`. If this test comes back as undeliverable, delete the offending address from the list. You can't fix it. Dan Liston Jonathan Byrne wrote: > > Possibly more related to sendmail than majordomo, but I'll > give it a try. > > I recently migrated our ml from and older OpenBSD machine to > a FreeBSD 4.2 machine running Sendmail 8.11.1 and am encountering > a problem with addresses for which there is neither an MX record > nor an A record. > > Bulkmailer hands off a bundle of mails to sendmail, and if that > bundle contains such an address, it fails to delivery every other > address in that bundle, and may abort the list run altogether. > > Here's a maillog sample: > > Feb 27 16:46:43 ml sendmail[16560]: f1R7hqD16560: SYSERR: putoutmsg (localhost): error on output channel sending "450 4.7.1 ... Can not check MX records f > or recipient host liptinfor.bf": Broken pipe > Feb 27 16:46:43 ml sendmail[16560]: f1R7hqD16560: ruleset=check_rcpt, arg1=, relay=daemon@localhost, reject=450 4.7.1 ... Can not c > heck MX records for recipient host liptinfor.bf > Feb 27 16:46:43 ml sendmail[16560]: f1R7hqD16560: lost input channel from daemon@localhost to stdin after rcpt > Feb 27 16:46:43 ml sendmail[16560]: f1R7hqD16560: from=, size=0, class=0, nrcpts=14, proto=SMTP, relay=daemon@localhost > Feb 27 16:46:43 ml sendmail[16583]: f1R7khl16583: SYSERR: putoutmsg (localhost): error on output channel sending "220 ml.gol.com ESMTP Sendmail 8.11.1/8.11.1; Tue, 27 Feb 2001 1 > 6:46:43 +0900 (JST)": Broken pipe > > I've tried building a new sendmail.cf using feature('accept_unresolvable_address'), but that didn't help. > > Has anyone else encountered this, and if so, how did you resolve it? > If you have a URL with a fix, please send it. > > TIA, > > Jonathan From majordomo-users-owner Wed Feb 28 16:21:35 2001 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-980720-1) id OAA20484; Wed, 28 Feb 2001 14:50:10 -0800 (PST) Received: from ozymandius.sphinx.com (unknown [63.94.91.3]) by honor.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 834D817EC6 for ; Wed, 28 Feb 2001 14:50:01 -0800 (PST) Received: from irisfinancial.com (tethys.ny.irisfinancial.com [192.168.10.28]) by ozymandius.sphinx.com (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA00687 for ; Wed, 28 Feb 2001 14:52:04 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <3A9D807C.E5BFB3F4@irisfinancial.com> Date: Wed, 28 Feb 2001 17:49:32 -0500 From: Skip Gilbrech Reply-To: skip@irisfinancial.com Organization: Iris Financial Engineering X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.76 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "majordomo-users@greatcircle.com" Subject: Duplicate messages on news/mail gateway Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk I've been trying to set up a mail/news gateway on a Linux machine running inn (2.2.3), majordomo (1.94.5), mail2news and news2mail from newsgate (1.18 I think). News posted to 'iris.test' should be sent to the mailing list 'test' and 'test-digest', and mail sent to 'test' should be posted to 'iris.test'. Everything gets where it should, but I'm getting duplicate mail msgs and bounces generated in spite of using '-x internet' with mail2news. I've read all I can find on avoiding duplicates but so far nothing works and I need ideas. I've put mail2news and news2mail in the majordomo directory and am running them with the majordomo wrapper but I don't think that makes any difference as there don't seem to be permission problems.. Part of a returned mail report: The original message was received at Wed, 28 Feb 2001 16:22:20 -0500 from majordomo@localhost ----- The following addresses had permanent fatal errors ----- "|/usr/lib/majordomo/wrapper mail2news -n iris.test -o '.Iris .Financial .Engineering' -x internet" (reason: 1) (expanded from: test-post) ----- Transcript of session follows ----- Message delivered to mailing list test@beavis.ny.irisfinancial.com Can't send article to the server: 441 435 Duplicate (Article not posted.) 554 5.3.0 "|/usr/lib/majordomo/wrapper mail2news -n iris.test -o '.Iris .Financial .Engineering' -x internet"... unknown mailer error 1 Receiving 13 The relevant entry in 'newsfeeds': internet\ :iris.test\ :Tp\ :/usr/lib/majordomo/wrapper news2mail test test owner-test beavis.ny.irisfinancial.com %s The relevant part of 'aliases' majordomo: "|/usr/lib/majordomo/wrapper majordomo" owner-majordomo: skip majordomo-owner: skip test: :include:/usr/lib/majordomo/lists/test, test-digestify, test-post owner-test: skip test-request: "|/usr/lib/majordomo/wrapper request-answer test" test-approval: skip test-digest: test test-digest-outgoing: :include:/usr/lib/majordomo/lists/test-digest owner-test-digest-outgoing: skip test-digest-request: "|/usr/lib/majordomo/wrapper request-answer test-digest" test-digest-approval: skip test-digestify: "|/usr/lib/majordomo/wrapper digest -r -C -l test-digest \ test-digest-outgoing" test-post: "|/usr/lib/majordomo/wrapper mail2news -n iris.test \ -o '.Iris .Financial .Engineering' -x internet" I'd really appreciate some suggestions here and I can provide more information if need be. Thanks in advance. Skip -- Skip Gilbrech Iris Financial Engineering & Systems, Inc. Phone: +1 646 254 2462 Email: skip@irisfinancial.com Fax: +1 646 254 2402 Web: http://www.irisfinancial.com From majordomo-users-owner Wed Feb 28 18:05:26 2001 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-980720-1) id RAA22783; Wed, 28 Feb 2001 17:38:23 -0800 (PST) Received: from sonny.org (unknown [205.217.137.8]) by honor.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3D29517EC6 for ; Wed, 28 Feb 2001 17:38:11 -0800 (PST) Received: from netscape.com (daniel.sonny.org [205.217.137.65]) by sonny.org (8.8.8/8.8.3) with ESMTP id TAA29186; Wed, 28 Feb 2001 19:38:08 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <3A9DA7FF.A7BDE45A@netscape.com> Date: Wed, 28 Feb 2001 19:38:07 -0600 From: Dan Liston Organization: iPlanet eCommerce Solutions, A Sun|Netscape Alliance X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.75 [en] (X11; U; Linux 2.2.16-3 i686) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "Ricardo M. Morales" Cc: Majordomo-Users@GreatCircle.COM, majordomo@elistas.net Subject: Re: mj don't recognize this message / mj no reconoce este mensaje References: <4.3.2.7.2.20010228083328.00ab33b0@pop3.interlap.com.ar> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk You should inform users to use plain text messages when using mailing lists. White space should be stripped out by majordomo, but "might" cause the problem considering there is no address following the listname in the command. You might also try putting the "multipart" filter in $global_taboo_body. Why tiflogrupo is not recognized as a list could be an upper case letter in the filename at the OS level, or a typographical error in the /etc/aliases file. Otherwise, I don't know. Dan Liston "Ricardo M. Morales" wrote: > > english: > > Hi: i don't know why majordomo don't recognize this command sended by user.- > next is full message, edited for preserve user's privacy.- > in this message, original command line include a white space right listname.- > list name is correct, but server answer, only on this case, that list name > is unknown. i configure global_taboo_headers for bounce "multipart" messages. > this message include multipart content type, but so another messages > received by this server, and all others works fine > tks in advance and greetings.- > > ----- > > español: > > Hola: no se por qué majordomo no reconoce este comando enviado por un usuario.- > A continuación está el mensaje completo, editado para preservar la > privacidad del usuario.- > En este mensaje, la línea con el comando original incluye un espacio en > blanco a la derecha del nombre de la lista.- > el nombre de la lista es correcto, pero el servidor contesta, solamente en > este caso, que el nombre de la lista es desconocido. yo configuré > global_taboo_headers para rebotar los mensajes con "multipart".- > Este mensaje incluye contenido de tipo multipart, pero también lo tienen > otros mensajes recibidos en el servidor, y en los otros casos no hubo > problemas.- > Gracias desde ya y saludos.- > > ----- > > Return-Path: > From: "Name" > To: > Subject: > Date: Tue, 27 Feb 2001 22:08:56 -0300 > MIME-Version: 1.0 > Content-Type: multipart/alternative; > boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0034_01C0A109.E0F1E260" > X-Priority: 3 > X-MSMail-Priority: Normal > X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 > X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 > > subscribe tiflogrupo > > ----- Frase de la Semana: "La vida es lo que nos pasa, > mientras planificamos nuestra existencia" (AutoDelirium) > > "Ricardo M. Morales" - ICQ#: 18484567 > San Juan - Argentina - La Provincia del Sol > > Conoce las Listas INTEGRAR y ESPECIAL: Cuarto año integrando y > compartiendo a diario temas sobre Discapacidad y Educación Especial > Listas Integradas al Anillo de Grupos Virtuales Especiales > http://grupos.especiales.org/listas > > Promoción Milenio Especial: Libro "Informática y (dis)Capacidad" > Valores: 1 Ejemplar x $14 - 3 x $39 - 5 x $60 - 10 x $110 > Oferta Válida desde el 01/12/2000 hasta el 28/02/2001 > > Pedidos: http://ventas.especiales.org/pedidos > Consultas: info@ventas.especiales.org > > Web: http://ventas.especiales.org/articulos/index.php?_Opcion=Libro-InfDis > Info Automatizada por E-mail: enviar-libro-infdis@especiales.org From majordomo-users-owner Wed Feb 28 18:32:55 2001 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-980720-1) id SAA23107; Wed, 28 Feb 2001 18:03:00 -0800 (PST) Received: from wiggum.nawcad.navy.mil (wiggum.nawcad.navy.mil [192.58.199.176]) by honor.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7FB0C17EC6 for ; Wed, 28 Feb 2001 18:02:53 -0800 (PST) Received: by wiggum.nawcad.navy.mil; id VAA16347; Wed, 28 Feb 2001 21:03:11 -0500 (EST) From: Message-Id: <200103010203.VAA16347@wiggum.nawcad.navy.mil> Received: from tecnet1.jcte.jcs.mil(140.229.33.200) by wiggum.nawcad.navy.mil via smap (V4.2) id xma016271; Wed, 28 Feb 01 21:03:01 -0500 Date: Wed, 28 Feb 01 21:02:45 EDT To: majordomo-users@greatcircle.com Posted: Feb 28 21:02 2001 EST (Mar 1 02:02 ZULU) Subject: MajorDomo and MS Outlook Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk Hi, I'm having a problem with MajorDomo and MS OutLook. I have a user who wants to MS OutLook to manage his MajorDomo list. But, we ran into a problem when the user issues a config . After the user edits the configuration file he received and sends it back to the server. The user gets a messages stating there are syntax problems with the new configuration file. It appears certain lines in the configuration file did not autowrap and Outlook puts this information on seperate lines. When it does that majordomo does not know how to handle those lines. I traced the problem to config_parse.pl script but I can't seem to force a CR for those lines. Does anyone else have this problem and/or a possible work around? Dave From majordomo-users-owner Wed Feb 28 19:22:33 2001 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-980720-1) id SAA23650; Wed, 28 Feb 2001 18:43:56 -0800 (PST) Received: from smtp02.fields.gol.com (smtp02.fields.gol.com [203.216.5.132]) by honor.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B448717EC6 for ; Wed, 28 Feb 2001 18:43:48 -0800 (PST) Received: from yamame.gol.ad.jp ([203.216.0.50]) by smtp02.fields.gol.com with esmtp (Magnetic Fields) id 14YJ4Z-0001iV-00 for ; Thu, 01 Mar 2001 11:44:07 +0900 Received: (from byrnej@localhost) by yamame.gol.ad.jp (8.11.0/8.11.0) id f212jqT03019 for majordomo-users@greatcircle.com; Thu, 1 Mar 2001 11:45:52 +0900 Date: Thu, 1 Mar 2001 11:45:52 +0900 From: Jonathan Byrne To: majordomo-users@greatcircle.com Subject: Re: Broken pipes w/sendmail 8.11.1 on FreeBSD 4.2 Message-ID: <20010301114552.A2999@gol.com> References: <20010228131258.E1519@gol.com> <3A9D812F.B8138948@netscape.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0.1i-jp0 In-Reply-To: <3A9D812F.B8138948@netscape.com>; from dliston@netscape.com on Wed, Feb 28, 2001 at 04:52:31PM -0600 X-Abuse-Complaints: abuse@gol.com Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk Dan Liston (dliston@netscape.com) wrote: > I would say this is a configuration error in majordomo. You should > be using "subscribe_policy = (open|closed)+confirm" to validate the I don't own any of the lists, I administer the server. These lists - some of them quite large - were all moved over from the previous box, also running Majordomo 1.94.5, but with Sendmail 8.9.3. These lists are typically maintained in the way that many end users maintain their lists - that is, not at all. It amazes me that a list owner would rather have hundreds of bounces in his mailbox every time they send something out than to remove bad addresses, but that seems to be SOP with most of our customers. It would drive me crazy. I used to administer a list for the Tokyo Linux Users Group, and if I got a bounce for any reason, I hvead a 24-hour grace period and that address was gone. Most of the lists are open+confirm, but we don't require in our TOS that customers use this, (I think we should, but that's another issue), so some are just open, I'm sure. > users. Mail cannot be delivered to a domain that does not have one > or the other of MX or A records. Duh, that's why this happens :-) I suspect it is a feature (maybe new since 8.1x?) in Sendmail that's doing this, and what I'm trying to do is make it not do that. I've combed through our well-worn copy of the bat book quite a bit, but no dice yet. I have a program written by one of our other admins that will go through a list of addresses, do syntax checks and DNS lookups on them all and remove any bad ones (a highly effective, if use-at-your-own-risk, kids-don't-try- this-at-home program), but I'm hoping to avoid having to run that against a couple hundred lists to clear this up. Plus, since some are open subscription, there's no guarantee it won't reappear. I did use this to filter the largest list, and the size difference between the input list and the output list was 32K :-P > If you have an address in your list that is not resolveable, you > should just delete the entry. When I notice one in the mail log, I do, but that's still a bandaid. Are you (or anyone else out there) running Sendmail 8.11.1 or higher? Cheers, Jonathan From majordomo-users-owner Wed Feb 28 19:37:46 2001 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-980720-1) id TAA24055; Wed, 28 Feb 2001 19:16:57 -0800 (PST) Received: from netborders.com (netborders.com [216.122.88.196]) by honor.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E4C0817EC6 for ; Wed, 28 Feb 2001 19:16:50 -0800 (PST) Received: by netborders.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id DAA08531; Thu, 1 Mar 2001 03:10:03 GMT Date: Thu, 1 Mar 2001 03:10:03 GMT From: chris@netborders.com Message-Id: <200103010310.DAA08531@netborders.com> To: Majordomo-Users@GreatCircle.COM Reply-To: chris@netborders.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit User-Agent: IMP/PHP3 Imap webMail Program 2.0.11 X-Originating-IP: 213.122.186.237 Subject: virtual hosting, wrong addresser Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk I host several domains on my main server (one.com for ease of explanation) A customer, two.com hosted on one.com has a majordomo list. But trying to send a message from two.com to its list members arrive FROM wrong address(ie one.com) which is my main domain. It sounds simple, what am doing wrong? I just joined this users list today and am completely new to majordomo. Any help would be appreciated, thanks. I use BSDi OS. Chris Maclean From majordomo-users-owner Wed Feb 28 21:10:15 2001 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-980720-1) id UAA24989; Wed, 28 Feb 2001 20:44:17 -0800 (PST) Received: from sonny.org (unknown [205.217.137.8]) by honor.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id CBF2017EC6 for ; Wed, 28 Feb 2001 20:44:06 -0800 (PST) Received: from netscape.com (daniel.sonny.org [205.217.137.65]) by sonny.org (8.8.8/8.8.3) with ESMTP id WAA29480; Wed, 28 Feb 2001 22:44:20 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <3A9DD3A4.85004DED@netscape.com> Date: Wed, 28 Feb 2001 22:44:20 -0600 From: Dan Liston Organization: iPlanet eCommerce Solutions, A Sun|Netscape Alliance X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.75 [en] (X11; U; Linux 2.2.16-3 i686) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Tom Rawson Cc: majordomo-users@GreatCircle.COM Subject: Re: Virtual Hosting References: <3A9D3D9C.11341.2599BDB9@localhost> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk Here is something I sent out last April. (with a couple slight modifications) Perhaps this message can even serve as a cut & paste boiler plate. If I have domain.net hosting domain1.com and domain2.org ... My majordomo home directory is /usr/majordomo. (This is the location of wrapper and the perl scripts.) My lists, files (archives), digest_work, and filter directories are all subdirectories of /var/majordomo/domain#. I have separate majordomo.cf files for each domain defining $whereami and the deeper subdirectory locations for lists, archives, and digests. The host domain admin is still responsible for all changes and additions to the virtusertable and aliases file(s). In case of word wrap, all new lines begin with # #Majordomo.cf modifications # #I add $virtdir variable #$virtdir = "/var/majordomo/domain"; #$whereami = "domain.net"; # $homedir = "/usr/majordomo"; #$listdir = "$virtdir/lists"; #$digest_work_dir = "$virtdir/digest"; #$log = "$virtdir/Log"; #$filedir = "$virtdir/archive"; #$filedir_suffix = ""; #$majordomo_request = 1; # my preference #$max_which_hits = 1; # my preference again #$TMPDIR = $ENV{'TMPDIR'} || "/var/tmp"; # my pref If these settings were all in your default majordomo.cf for your primary domain, you could copy it to each virtdomain directory and only have to edit the top two variables ($virtdir and $whereami) any time you add another domain. In otherwords, for domain1.com I just change $virtdir to /var/majordomo/domain1, and $whereami to domain1.com. All the rest stays the same. For domain2.org, change $virtdir to /var/majordomo/domain2 nad $whereami to domain2.org. Each of these /var/majordomo directories must be set up with a majordomo.cf, and directories called lists, filters, digest, and archive. The digest and list directories each get subdirectories named after each majordomo list hosted for the virtual domain. Assuming sendmail is configured to support virtual domains and each hosted domain is listed in sendmail.cw, #Virtusertable entries for test list in each domain; # #test@domain1.com domain1-test #owner-test@domain1.com owner-domain1-test #test-owner@domain1.com domain1-test-owner #test-request@domain1.com domain1-test-request #test-approval@domain1.com domain1-test-approval #test-digest@domain1.com domain1-test-digest #owner-test-digest@domain1.com owner-domain1-test-digest #test-digest-owner@domain1.com domain1-test-digest-owner #test-digest-request@domain1.com domain1-test-digest-request #test-digest-approval@domain1.com domain1-test-digest-approval # #test@domain2.org domain2-test #owner-test@domain2.org owner-domain2-test #test-owner@domain2.org domain2-test-owner #test-request@domain2.org domain2-test-request #test-approval@domain2.org domain2-test-approval #test-digest@domain2.org domain2-test-digest #owner-test-digest@domain2.org owner-domain2-test-digest #test-digest-owner@domain2.org domain2-test-digest-owner #test-digest-request@domain2.org domain2-test-digest-request #test-digest-approval@domain2.org domain2-test-digest-approval #alias file entries for test lists (match RHS virtusertable) # #domain1-test: "|/usr/majordomo/wrapper resend -C /var/majordomo/domain1/majordomo.cf -l test -h domain1.com domain1-test-outgoing,nobody" #owner-domain1-test: whoever@domain1.com, #domain1-test-owner: owner-domain1-test #domain1-test-request: "|/usr/majordomo/wrapper majordomo -C /var/majordomo/domain1/majordomo.cf -l test" #domain1-test-approval: owner-domain1-test #domain1-test-outgoing: :include:/var/majordomo/domain1/lists/test,domain1-test-digestify,domain1-test-archiver #domain1-test-archiver: "|/usr/majordomo/wrapper archive2.pl -f /var/majordomo/domain1/archive/test/test -a -M" #domain1-test-digestify: "|/usr/majordomo/wrapper digest -r -C -c /var/majordomo/domain1/majordomo.cf -l test-digest domain1-test-digest-outgoing,nobody" #domain1-test-digest: domain1-test #owner-domain1-test-digest: owner-domain1-test #domain1-test-digest-owner: owner-domain1-test #domain1-test-digest-request: "|/usr/majordomo/wrapper majordomo -C /var/majordomo/domain1/majordomo.cf -l test-digest" #domain1-test-digest-approval: owner-domain1-test # #domain2-test: "|/usr/majordomo/wrapper resend -C /var/majordomo/domain2/majordomo.cf -l test -h domain2.org domain2-test-outgoing,nobody" #owner-domain2-test: whoever@domain2.org, #domain2-test-owner: owner-domain2-test #domain2-test-request: "|/usr/majordomo/wrapper majordomo -C /var/majordomo/domain2/majordomo.cf -l test" #domain2-test-approval: owner-domain2-test #domain2-test-outgoing: :include:/var/majordomo/domain2/lists/test,test-domain2-digestify,test-domain2-archiver #domain2-test-archiver: "|/usr/majordomo/wrapper archive2.pl -f /var/majordomo/domain2/archive/test/test -a -M" #domain2-test-digestify: "|/usr/majordomo/wrapper digest -r -C -c /var/majordomo/domain2/majordomo.cf -l test-digest domain2-test-digest-outgoing" #domain2-test-digest: domain2-test #owner-domain2-test-digest: owner-domain2-test #domain2-test-digest-owner: owner-domain2-test #domain2-test-digest-request: "|/usr/majordomo/wrapper majordomo -C /var/majordomo/domain2/majordomo.cf -l test-digest" #domain2-test-digest-approval: owner-domain2-test It should be noted to majordomo/list owners that their .config files should always use the resend_host = domain#.tld One instance of wrapper will support all of the above. I hope this helps shine light on things, Dan Liston Tom Rawson wrote: > > Dan Liston wrote: > > > What you are trying to do must be done in sendmail first, and majordomo > > second. In sendmail you need to utilize the virtusertable for each list > > being hosted, and in majordomo you need separate majordomo.cf files for > > each domain. I would recommend separate list directories for each domain > > too. > > Thanks Dan. > > Sendmail is all set ... on this provider's system we use a file called > virtmaps but I believe it is the same as what you describe as > virtusertable. The format is similar to aliases, but no colons and no > more than one address on the right hand side. Eg: > > name1@domain.com mailbox > name2@domain.com outside_name@otherdomain.com > domain.com catch-all_mailbox > > This is already set up and working. > > I would be happy to use separate Lists directories and agree that I need > to use separate majordomo.cf files. The issue is with wrapper -- it > assumes one majordomo.cf file and I can't seem to recompile it properly -- > .I get a huge (58K) output file from the compile. Once it is selectable I > can easily do whatever I want with the directories. Do you have any > thoughts on that? Anyone else? From majordomo-users-owner Wed Feb 28 21:57:35 2001 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-980720-1) id VAA25736; Wed, 28 Feb 2001 21:24:32 -0800 (PST) Received: from sonny.org (unknown [205.217.137.8]) by honor.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 034ED17ECD for ; Wed, 28 Feb 2001 21:24:24 -0800 (PST) Received: from netscape.com (daniel.sonny.org [205.217.137.65]) by sonny.org (8.8.8/8.8.3) with ESMTP id XAA29552; Wed, 28 Feb 2001 23:24:45 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <3A9DDD1D.27E41DD8@netscape.com> Date: Wed, 28 Feb 2001 23:24:45 -0600 From: Dan Liston Organization: iPlanet eCommerce Solutions, A Sun|Netscape Alliance X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.75 [en] (X11; U; Linux 2.2.16-3 i686) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: davea@tecnet1.jcte.jcs.mil Cc: majordomo-users@GreatCircle.COM Subject: Re: MajorDomo and MS Outlook References: <200103010203.VAA16347@wiggum.nawcad.navy.mil> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk The problem is with outlook wrapping the lines, not majordomo. Your customer has to turn of line wrapping in their outlook client when sending the config back to majordomo. In Outlook Express this is located under tools > options, click on the "send" tab and select "plain text" as the mail sending format. On this same tab, click the "settings" button next to plain text to get to the "automatically wrap text at" setting. This defaults to 76, and must be set to 80 or higher to keep from messing up the majordomo list.config file during send. Outlook does not seem to allow wrapping to be turned off completely. Dan Liston davea@tecnet1.jcte.jcs.mil wrote: > > Hi, > > I'm having a problem with MajorDomo and MS OutLook. I have a user who wants to MS OutLook to manage his MajorDomo list. But, we ran into a problem when the user issues a config . After the user edits the configuration file he received and sends it back to the server. The user gets a messages stating there are syntax problems with the new configuration file. It appears certain lines in the configuration file did not autowrap and Outlook puts this information on seperate lines. When it does that majordomo does not know how to handle those lines. I traced the problem to config_parse.pl script but I can't seem to force a CR for those lines. > > Does anyone else have this problem and/or a possible work around? > > Dave From majordomo-users-owner Wed Feb 28 23:39:53 2001 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-980720-1) id XAA26939; Wed, 28 Feb 2001 23:14:19 -0800 (PST) Received: from sulphur.cix.co.uk (sulphur.cix.co.uk [212.35.225.149]) by honor.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id BD99417EC6 for ; Wed, 28 Feb 2001 23:14:12 -0800 (PST) Received: from mesh--computer (5300-tele-1-cluster.103.ip-pool.cix.co.uk [194.153.22.103]) by sulphur.cix.co.uk (8.11.2/CIX/8.11.2) with SMTP id f217ENM11519; Thu, 1 Mar 2001 07:14:24 GMT X-Envelope-From: mwinnett@satchmo.win-uk.net Message-ID: <008201c0a21f$8d2a2810$0101a8c0@mesh--computer> From: "Mike Winnett" To: Cc: "majordomo-users" Subject: Re: MajorDomo and MS Outlook Date: Thu, 1 Mar 2001 07:14:10 -0000 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.2106.4 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk Yes, just use netscape communicator for the majordomo commands and set the line length to whatever wrks best, plus it's easy to write html pages that launch commands with a single mouse-click, (I sent sample pages to the list a coupla weeks back) regards mw -----Original Message----- From: davea@tecnet1.jcte.jcs.mil To: majordomo-users@GreatCircle.COM Date: 01 March 2001 05:21 Subject: MajorDomo and MS Outlook >Hi, > > I'm having a problem with MajorDomo and MS OutLook. I have a user who wants to MS OutLook to manage his MajorDomo list. But, we ran into a problem when the user issues a config . After the user edits the configuration file he received and sends it back to the server. The user gets a messages stating there are syntax problems with the new configuration file. It appears certain lines in the configuration file did not autowrap and Outlook puts this information on seperate lines. When it does that majordomo does not know how to handle those lines. I traced the problem to config_parse.pl script but I can't seem to force a CR for those lines. > > Does anyone else have this problem and/or a possible work around? > >Dave > >