From majordomo-users-owner Wed Aug 1 01:36:48 2001 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-980720-1) id BAA07918; Wed, 1 Aug 2001 01:24:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: from server1.acnsnet.com (unknown [216.234.186.5]) by honor.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5C35517EB3 for ; Wed, 1 Aug 2001 01:23:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: from chucks (pD9E0C645.dip.t-dialin.net [217.224.198.69]) by server1.acnsnet.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id CAA04430; Wed, 1 Aug 2001 02:17:24 -0600 Message-ID: <017401c11a63$80d4d1c0$fe0aa8c0@chucks> From: "Charles Williams" To: , , , , "Php-General (E-mail)" , , , , , "LinuxSA" , , , , , References: <008b01c118eb$e4621960$fe0aa8c0@chucks> Subject: Re: Very OT for a lot of you put just asking. Date: Wed, 1 Aug 2001 10:25:08 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk ----- Original Message ----- From: "Charles Williams" To: ; ; ; "Php-General (E-mail)" ; ; ; ; ; "LinuxSA" ; ; ; ; ; ; Sent: Monday, July 30, 2001 1:36 PM Subject: [apache-server] Very OT for a lot of you put just asking. > OK, sorry if you feel this is WAY OT. > > I am wanting to compile a list of the best one-liner Linux commands out > there. So all you admins and users out there feel free to send me a copy of > your best one-liner commands with a brief explanation as to what they > accomplish. > > It doesn't matter if it's for sendmail or procmail or ipchains or grep or > whatever. All commands will be sorted per usage and all credit will be > given. > > The sooner that I can get a bunch together the sooner I will post them on my > site. And again, sorry if this is way OT for you folks, but I am really > curious as to what will show up. > > thanks, > chuck > http://www.acnsnet.com/~slydder OK, last time cross posting. hehe. I promise. I have added a link to my site that will allow you to send in you Linux ONE-LINERS. PLEASE USE THIS LINK! I have setup outlook to sort all the mail by the subject line and thus make my life a bit easier. OH, just so you know I have recieved over 500 replies until now. Some are funny as hell and not actually commands. So I'm thinking about starting a list for Linux ONE-LINER joke commands. hehe. Anyways, thanks. And the url is http://www.acnsnet.com/~slydder chuck From majordomo-users-owner Wed Aug 1 05:24:45 2001 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-980720-1) id FAA12202; Wed, 1 Aug 2001 05:11:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: from tekmuscle.com (cpe-66-1-210-249.il.sprintbbd.net [66.1.210.249]) by honor.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 33EE117E8C for ; Wed, 1 Aug 2001 05:10:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: from dmtshome (tekmuscle.com [192.168.123.130]) by tekmuscle.com (8.11.2/8.11.2/SuSE Linux 8.11.1-0.5) with SMTP id f71CC7p16988 for ; Wed, 1 Aug 2001 07:12:08 -0500 Message-ID: <029401c11a82$c91ee3c0$827ba8c0@TekMuscle.com> From: "David Maltenfort" To: "Majordomo Users Group" References: <200108010405.f71451g50306@ns.howlermonkey.net> Subject: Re: Header replied to variable Date: Wed, 1 Aug 2001 07:09:16 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk I guess that I was not clear when I sent my original request. I understand where to put the information in the header. What I do not understand is how to do the reply to. I am not clear on how I would create a $REPLIED_FROM variable. For example, the header section of my config file would look like this: -------------------------------- Sent by: $SENDER Replied to from: $REPLIED_FROM -------------------------------- Thanks again for the help. David Maltenfort > At 7/30/01 10:10:00 PM, you wrote: > >I am trying to find where header and footer variables are set. > A message heder field is defined in the config file. There is a additional header, you can > add things in front of the subject text in the subject header, and you can append a text in > the beginning of the body, and a footer of text at the end of the body. Please use your > favorite text editor and add these things into the config file for your list. > > > I want to include in the header information of who is being replied to. For example: > > > >---------------------------------------- > >Sent by: test@test.com > >Replied to: from@from.com > >---------------------------------------- > > > >I understand that the first post would be blank but most of my lists are back and forth > replies. Some of my users have requested this and I am having a problem finding where to > make the change and if it is possible. > > > >Thanks in advance for the help. > > > >David Maltenfort > > > > > end > > In total confusion, > Kirk D Bailey > > |----------------------------------------------------| > | Consulting Agent Provecateur | > | Webmaster, Howlermonkey Email services Co. | > | Please visit us at http://www.howlermonkey.net/ | > |----------------------------------------------------| > > From majordomo-users-owner Fri Aug 3 15:18:00 2001 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-980720-1) id OAA01308; Fri, 3 Aug 2001 14:47:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: from penguin.postmodern.com (penguin.postmodern.com [216.240.39.2]) by honor.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8727017ECE for ; Fri, 3 Aug 2001 14:47:29 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail.eyup.org (mail.eyup.org [212.69.253.65]) by penguin.postmodern.com (8.11.1/8.11.1-mcb-20001119) with SMTP id f738Shf21169 for ; Fri, 3 Aug 2001 01:28:43 -0700 Received: by tp600.eyup.org (IBM OS/2 SENDMAIL VERSION 2.03/2.0) id JAA008.79; Fri, 3 Aug 2001 09:24:11 +0100 Date: Fri, 3 Aug 2001 09:24:11 +0100 From: John Poltorak To: Majordomo-Users@GreatCircle.COM Subject: Majordomo and email viruses Message-ID: <20010803092411.S79@eyup.org> Mail-Followup-To: Majordomo-Users@GreatCircle.COM Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.94.15i X-Operating-System: OS/2 Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk Is there any recommended way of stopping email viruses getting sent out if someone posts one to the list? -- John From majordomo-users-owner Fri Aug 3 15:29:24 2001 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-980720-1) id OAA02218; Fri, 3 Aug 2001 14:57:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: from penguin.postmodern.com (penguin.postmodern.com [216.240.39.2]) by honor.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0ED0E17EC0 for ; Fri, 3 Aug 2001 14:56:55 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail.mainnet.com (mail.mainnet.com [207.105.52.10]) by penguin.postmodern.com (8.11.1/8.11.1-mcb-20001119) with ESMTP id f72Fw8f15403 for ; Thu, 2 Aug 2001 08:58:08 -0700 Received: from ffwzu ([207.214.162.58]) by mail.mainnet.com (Netscape Messaging Server 4.15) with SMTP id GHG6QR00.KOY for ; Thu, 2 Aug 2001 08:52:03 -0700 Message-ID: <00a101c11b6a$cae0d4a0$3aa2d6cf@mainnet.com> From: "Dale Bryant" To: "Majordomo Users Group" References: <200108010405.f71451g50306@ns.howlermonkey.net> <029401c11a82$c91ee3c0$827ba8c0@TekMuscle.com> Subject: Re: Header replied to variable Date: Thu, 2 Aug 2001 08:50:02 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk Can anyone tell me how to make replied to messages go back to the MajorDomo list instead of to the message sender? Dale Bryant Dale Bryant http://gfawhelp.gfa.net dbryant@mainnet.com adbryant@gfa.net dbryant@addr.com From majordomo-users-owner Fri Aug 3 15:49:41 2001 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-980720-1) id PAA02940; Fri, 3 Aug 2001 15:16:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: from penguin.postmodern.com (penguin.postmodern.com [216.240.39.2]) by honor.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4313617EC0 for ; Fri, 3 Aug 2001 15:16:02 -0700 (PDT) Received: from fty-ultra.cisco.com (fty-ultra.cisco.com [64.102.40.8]) by penguin.postmodern.com (8.11.1/8.11.1-mcb-20001119) with ESMTP id f72BZrf13360 for ; Thu, 2 Aug 2001 04:35:53 -0700 Received: (fty@localhost) by fty-ultra.cisco.com (8.9.3/8.6.5) id HAA21018 for Majordomo-users@GreatCircle.COM; Thu, 2 Aug 2001 07:29:07 -0400 (EDT) Date: Thu, 2 Aug 2001 07:29:07 -0400 (EDT) From: fty@cisco.com Message-Id: <200108021129.HAA21018@fty-ultra.cisco.com> To: Majordomo-users@GreatCircle.COM Subject: is it just me or does this scare anyone else? "Intelligence" Gatherers X-priority: 3 X-Face: ,fjtWiMPydUaSQl%8[eTg`u:^BXt&T)Sny(6w\*U"5D9H[Z$kG%Q/z;Z=NwrPiXf-aMF3R) Rsand$,]26-8>5@HD(A3A79gN|0%NHsdek4mT8E,>j+\w!~d2#nH;~NV!5a0"`5$Cj8d\or(Jy/JQ_ |uc;C[filmZ(~#lre*l:|O%d/PJFy`.5w8)sMZ-)QI3TaV"j'k X-Mailer: [XMailTool v3.1.0] Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk Is there a facility for blocking certain email addrs completely from the server? Should there be? - Frank =================================================== Forwarded from the Computer Digest List -- for those of you who run listserves From: Scott Peterson Date: 11 Jul 2001 09:36:16 -0700 Subject: 2s2i.com: "Intelligence" Gatherers I run an unmoderated email list for dog breeders. Yesterday I received two requests to subscribe from parker@CHRISDOWNEY.NET parker J. Johnson pearl@CHRISDOWNEY.NET pearl J. Johnson This was a bit suspicious as they arrived within seconds of each other from an ISP I didn't recognize with identical initials and almost identical names right down to failure to capitalize the first name on both. I typically don't get subscriptions like that. I checked the WHOIS information on this site and found that it was owned by chris_downey@2s2i.com. I thought at first that these must be spammers wanting to collect email addresses. However, after looking at their web page, www.2s2i.com , they are much more insidious. They claim that they can provide "intelligence" to companies by reading messages from message boards, usenet, web forums and email lists using addresses at chrisdowney.net and cpdmail.com to harvest this information. Since then I've seen complaints from a number of list owners that they've been hit with multiple subscriptions from these people. I'm sure they aren't the first and won't be the last to do this, but it's not a nice prospect. Scott Peterson -- Scott Wyant Manager of Information Technology School of Cinema-Television University of Southern California swyant@cinema.usc.edu \\\\////\\\\////\\\\\////\\\\\////\\\\////\\\\////\\\\////\\\\////\\\\////\\\\ Frank Terhaar-Yonkers W4FTY TRA 8325/L2 Cisco Systems, Inc. NSITE - Pineview Building - RTP 7025 Kit Creek Road PO Box 14987 Research Triangle Park, North Carolina 27709 fty@cisco.com voice(919)392-2101 fx(919)392-6927 From majordomo-users-owner Fri Aug 3 18:33:46 2001 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-980720-1) id SAA05550; Fri, 3 Aug 2001 18:04:54 -0700 (PDT) Received: from kym.edu.my (unknown [202.188.253.2]) by honor.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 05AA517EE8 for ; Fri, 3 Aug 2001 18:04:38 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (suzana@localhost) by kym.edu.my (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA25262 for ; Sat, 4 Aug 2001 09:07:59 +0800 (SGT) Date: Sat, 4 Aug 2001 09:07:59 +0800 (SGT) From: SUZANA BT ZAHRI To: majordomo-users@GreatCircle.com Subject: bounced posts are split! Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk hi all!! I have this very confusing problem..recently i installed majordomo in sunOS 5.7, with sendmail as MTA....my prob is: everytime i get a bounced post, i noticed that when i opened it in mailx, i got ONE bounced post, but when i opened it in PINE, there were two posts!! One is the one with the subject BOUNCED:Non-member....without any message attached to it,totally empty.And the other post was the actual message sent by user,with the subject :TEST or whatever,along with the message (just like normal post)... so now I cant approve my bounced posts since there are two for each of them, and i cant approve both split posts!I took a look at my /var/mail/file and found out that everytime i got a bounced post, there are two From columns separated with space....the first one is from owner-list and the other one is from me(suzana@kym.edu.my), the owner of the list(I'm also the list-approve too)A.Could this be the cause of the problem? How can i fix this? Please help!! THANKS! From majordomo-users-owner Fri Aug 3 19:46:02 2001 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-980720-1) id TAA06245; Fri, 3 Aug 2001 19:20:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: from kym.edu.my (unknown [202.188.253.2]) by honor.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4D3AB17EED for ; Fri, 3 Aug 2001 19:20:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (suzana@localhost) by kym.edu.my (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA26738 for ; Sat, 4 Aug 2001 10:23:22 +0800 (SGT) Date: Sat, 4 Aug 2001 10:23:22 +0800 (SGT) From: SUZANA BT ZAHRI To: majordomo-users@GreatCircle.COM Subject: bounced posts got split!! Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk hi all!! I have this very confusing problem..recently i installed majordomo in sunOS 5.7, with sendmail as MTA....my prob is: everytime i get a bounced post, i noticed that when i opened it in mailx, i got ONE bounced post, but when i opened it in PINE, there were two posts!! One is the one with the subject BOUNCED:Non-member....without any message attached to it,totally empty.And the other post was the actual message sent by user,with the subject :TEST or whatever,along with the message (just like normal post)... so now I cant approve my bounced posts since there are two for each of them, and i cant approve both split posts!I took a look at my /var/mail/file and found out that everytime i got a bounced post, there are two From columns separated with space....the first one is from owner-list and the other one is from me(suzana@kym.edu.my), the owner of the list(I'm also the list-approve too)A.Could this be the cause of the problem? How can i fix this? Please help!! THANKS! From majordomo-users-owner Fri Aug 3 21:01:04 2001 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-980720-1) id UAA06869; Fri, 3 Aug 2001 20:39:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: from miles.dynamicdiagrams.com (cx760946-a.sking1.ri.home.com [24.2.181.101]) by honor.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 783E917EF1 for ; Fri, 3 Aug 2001 20:39:18 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from jh@localhost) by miles.dynamicdiagrams.com (8.11.0/8.11.0) id f743buR18260; Fri, 3 Aug 2001 23:37:56 -0400 Message-Id: <200108040337.f743buR18260@miles.dynamicdiagrams.com> Date: Sat, 4 Aug 2001 03:37:55 +0000 (GMT) To: fty@cisco.com Cc: Majordomo-users@GreatCircle.COM From: Joe Hartley Subject: Re: is it just me or does this scare anyone else? "Intelligence" Gatherers In-Reply-To: <200108021129.HAA21018@fty-ultra.cisco.com> X-Mailer: Ishmail 1.3.3-990123-linux MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk fty@cisco.com wrote: > > > Is there a facility for blocking certain email addrs completely > from the server? Should there be? In sendmail (the MTA I use) there's the access file which lets me define users and/or domains I don't want to accept email from. Sounds like I'll be adding these domains shortly! -- ====================================================================== Joe Hartley - Senior Unix Admin - Dynamic Diagrams/ingenta 12 Bassett St., Providence, RI 02903 - vox 401.331-2014 x120 Joe.Hartley@ingenta.com - cell 401.338.9214 Without deviation from the norm, "progress" is not possible. - FZappa From majordomo-users-owner Fri Aug 3 21:16:05 2001 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-980720-1) id UAA06904; Fri, 3 Aug 2001 20:42:40 -0700 (PDT) Received: from miles.dynamicdiagrams.com (cx760946-a.sking1.ri.home.com [24.2.181.101]) by honor.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6873217EF2 for ; Fri, 3 Aug 2001 20:42:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from jh@localhost) by miles.dynamicdiagrams.com (8.11.0/8.11.0) id f743eCU18286; Fri, 3 Aug 2001 23:40:12 -0400 Message-Id: <200108040340.f743eCU18286@miles.dynamicdiagrams.com> Date: Sat, 4 Aug 2001 03:40:12 +0000 (GMT) To: jp@eyup.org Cc: Majordomo-Users@GreatCircle.COM From: Joe Hartley Subject: Re: Majordomo and email viruses In-Reply-To: <20010803092411.S79@eyup.org> X-Mailer: Ishmail 1.3.3-990123-linux MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk John Poltorak wrote: > Is there any recommended way of stopping email viruses getting sent out if > someone posts one to the list? I use demime to strip HTML and other attachments from my listmail. It's kept the attachments from the #%$*ing Sircam virus (which is *much* more annoying to me than Code Red!) from getting to any of my lists. http://scifi.squawk.com/demime.html -- ====================================================================== Joe Hartley - Senior Unix Admin - Dynamic Diagrams/ingenta 12 Bassett St., Providence, RI 02903 - vox 401.331-2014 x120 Joe.Hartley@ingenta.com - cell 401.338.9214 Without deviation from the norm, "progress" is not possible. - FZappa From majordomo-users-owner Mon Aug 6 07:22:10 2001 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-980720-1) id HAA09681; Mon, 6 Aug 2001 07:13:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: from proteus.obantec.net (unknown [213.171.197.193]) by honor.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A9D7117EB4 for ; Mon, 6 Aug 2001 07:13:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: from gamma (host213-122-125-113.btinternet.com [213.122.125.113]) by proteus.obantec.net (8.10.2/8.10.2) with SMTP id f76EFX508212 for ; Mon, 6 Aug 2001 15:15:33 +0100 Message-ID: <01b901c11e81$cabb1fc0$0200a8c0@gamma> From: "Support" To: Subject: Majorcool problem Date: Mon, 6 Aug 2001 15:11:58 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk Hi First time posting to the list so sorry if i make a mistake. I have majordomo 1.94.5 installed and seems to work. I have now added majorcool 1.3.2 but cannot get the mj_build_aliases to work. the list is created and here is the output from majorcool Validating permissions... Verifying list name... Checking for existing aliases... Adding list 'users'... Creating default config file... Setting specified config options... Sending instructions to 'support@obantec.net' ...Done. As you see mj_create_list is working but not calling mj_build_alises. Thanks for any pointers Mark From majordomo-users-owner Mon Aug 6 11:50:51 2001 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-980720-1) id LAA12437; Mon, 6 Aug 2001 11:40:38 -0700 (PDT) Received: from chmls20.mediaone.net (chmls20.mediaone.net [24.147.1.156]) by honor.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C81AB17EB4 for ; Mon, 6 Aug 2001 11:40:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: from stephen1 (h002078cc1b2f.ne.mediaone.net [65.96.101.252]) by chmls20.mediaone.net (8.11.1/8.11.1) with SMTP id f76Ie6x09402 for ; Mon, 6 Aug 2001 14:40:11 -0400 (EDT) Reply-To: From: "Stephen J. Cotton" To: Subject: Using lists as sub list to a master distribution Date: Mon, 6 Aug 2001 14:35:25 -0400 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2462.0000 In-Reply-To: <01b901c11e81$cabb1fc0$0200a8c0@gamma> Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk I am using a sublist as a member of a master list. I am in a shared environment on a host using majordomo. I have over 10 sublists with 4000 members in each. The master list then has the 10 sublists as its members. Does the master config file override the config files for each of the sub lists? Do I have to point the sublists in the direction of the master list config file or would this be the default? thanks -Stephen From majordomo-users-owner Tue Aug 7 09:19:42 2001 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-980720-1) id JAA28776; Tue, 7 Aug 2001 09:16:33 -0700 (PDT) Received: from sunkay.cs.ualberta.ca (sunkay.cs.ualberta.ca [129.128.4.11]) by honor.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5D00B17EB0 for ; Tue, 7 Aug 2001 09:16:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: from shoal-lk.cs.ualberta.ca ([129.128.23.186]:37924 "HELO shoal-lk.cs.ualberta.ca") by sunkay.cs.ualberta.ca with SMTP id ; Tue, 7 Aug 2001 10:16:13 -0600 Date: Tue, 7 Aug 2001 10:16:12 -0600 (MDT) From: Broderick Wood Reply-To: Broderick Wood Subject: Re: Majorcool problem To: majordomo-users@GreatCircle.COM Cc: support@obantec.net MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-MD5: +uDFDoBxAMjf+77FqnUosQ== X-Mailer: dtmail 1.3.0 @(#)CDE Version 1.4 SunOS 5.8 sun4u sparc Message-Id: <20010807161616Z568814-28192+3710@sunkay.cs.ualberta.ca> Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk I didn't follow proper protocol myself. You should send to list with CC to originator. No it doesn't add to etd/aliases. You need to add the config in Sendmail to use the majordomo_aliases file in addition to it's own aliases file. See the Major Cool documentation for this. >Not sure if I should be replying back to you or to >majordomo-users@GreatCircle.COM (not up on mailing list protocol must do >some more research) > >I found the problem with mj_build_aliases !(it was not in homedir I had >forgotten to copy it across). >It seems to add to majordomo_aliases but not what I expected and it does not >add to /etc/aliases. > >Mark > >----- Original Message ----- >From: "Broderick Wood" >To: >Sent: Tuesday, August 07, 2001 4:18 PM >Subject: Re: Majorcool problem > > >> First thing I would check is ythe UID and GID and permissions on the >mj_aliases >> file as well as what user/group the web server is running as. This is >where I >> had problems before... >> >> Try manually running the build_aliases AS the web server UID and GID. >> >> >From: "Support" >> >To: >> >Subject: Majorcool problem >> >Date: Mon, 6 Aug 2001 15:11:58 +0100 >> >MIME-Version: 1.0 >> >Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit >> >X-Priority: 3 >> >X-MSMail-Priority: Normal >> >X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 >> >X-Envelope-To: <"|IFS=' ' && exec /usr/local/bin/procmail -Y -f- || exit >75 >> #bmw"> (uid 16045) >> >X-Orcpt: rfc822;bmw@cs.ualberta.ca >> > >> >Hi >> >First time posting to the list so sorry if i make a mistake. >> > >> >I have majordomo 1.94.5 installed and seems to work. >> >I have now added majorcool 1.3.2 but cannot get the mj_build_aliases to >> >work. >> > >> >the list is created and here is the output from majorcool >> > >> >Validating permissions... >> >Verifying list name... >> >Checking for existing aliases... >> >Adding list 'users'... >> >Creating default config file... >> >Setting specified config options... >> >Sending instructions to 'support@obantec.net' ...Done. >> >As you see mj_create_list is working but not calling mj_build_alises. >> >Thanks for any pointers >> >Mark >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> >> >> -Broderick Wood- >> >> Research Systems Administrator >> Department of Computing Sciences >> Athabasca Hall, Room 205 >> University of Alberta >> Edmonton, Alberta, Canada >> T6G 2E1 >> (780) 492-5018 >> >> "Failure is NOT an option; >> It's bundled with your software." >> -Broderick Wood- Research Systems Administrator Department of Computing Sciences Athabasca Hall, Room 205 University of Alberta Edmonton, Alberta, Canada T6G 2E1 (780) 492-5018 "Failure is NOT an option; It's bundled with your software." From majordomo-users-owner Tue Aug 7 14:49:44 2001 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-980720-1) id OAA02045; Tue, 7 Aug 2001 14:35:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: from miles.dynamicdiagrams.com (nat.dynamicdiagrams.com [216.41.98.254]) by honor.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 871D117E8C for ; Tue, 7 Aug 2001 14:35:37 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from jh@localhost) by miles.dynamicdiagrams.com (8.11.0/8.11.0) id f77LZQj05532 for majordomo-users@greatcircle.com; Tue, 7 Aug 2001 17:35:26 -0400 Message-Id: <200108072135.f77LZQj05532@miles.dynamicdiagrams.com> Date: Tue, 7 Aug 2001 21:35:26 +0000 (GMT) To: majordomo-users@greatcircle.com From: Joe Hartley Subject: V1.1 of my bouncer script X-Mailer: Ishmail 1.3.3-990123-linux MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk I've added a section to handle the non-RFC822-compliant messages that Exchange sends out when a user's not found. It's at http://zappa.brainiac.com/bounce.pl To review: This script was designed to be part of the list-owner alias so that it can be invoked automatically when email bounces. Example: owner-foo-l: me@domain.com,"|/usr/local/majordomo/bounce.pl foo-l PhonyPW" When a message is bounced to the owner, the script makes sure it's an error then removes the offending address from the list. -- ====================================================================== Joe Hartley - Senior Unix Admin - Dynamic Diagrams/ingenta 12 Bassett St., Providence, RI 02903 - vox 401.331-2014 x120 Joe.Hartley@ingenta.com - cell 401.338.9214 Without deviation from the norm, "progress" is not possible. - FZappa From majordomo-users-owner Thu Aug 9 13:11:30 2001 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-980720-1) id MAA05609; Thu, 9 Aug 2001 12:52:48 -0700 (PDT) Received: from hirs.timpo.osd.mil (unknown [209.22.178.102]) by honor.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4C0F717E8B for ; Thu, 9 Aug 2001 12:52:41 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mankind.timpo.osd.mil (mankind.timpo.osd.mil [209.22.178.92]) by hirs.timpo.osd.mil (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id NAA02647 for ; Thu, 9 Aug 2001 13:44:29 -0500 Message-Id: <200108091844.NAA02647@hirs.timpo.osd.mil> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit MIME-Version: 1.0 From: "David Patterson" To: majordomo-users@greatcircle.com Subject: Problem with list names X-Mailer: Pronto v2.2.4 On linux/mysql Date: 09 Aug 2001 14:42:46 CDT Reply-To: "David Patterson" Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk I have quite a few lists setup, that work mostly. My main problem is when I issue a 'lists' command to majordomo, only 15 of my 40+ lists show up. I have checked the advertise/noadvertise settings, and they are fine(comparing to a list that does show up). the lists dont have mixed case or numbers in them, although they do have 'dots'. i.e this.is.a.list The only lists that show up are the ones without dots in the name, i.e.: thislist ---will show up this.list.wont --wont show up If I send the 'who listname.with.dots' command, I get no list errors, even though I can actually send mail to the lists. how can I get majordomo to recognize the '.' lists? -- David Patterson Keeper of the Magic IMITS 2421 Dickman Road, Ste 84 (Bldg 1001, Reid Hall) Ft Sam Houston, TX 78234-5084 (210)295-2575 From majordomo-users-owner Thu Aug 9 13:57:45 2001 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-980720-1) id NAA06089; Thu, 9 Aug 2001 13:37:11 -0700 (PDT) Received: from proteus.obantec.net (unknown [213.171.197.193]) by honor.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8612517E8B for ; Thu, 9 Aug 2001 13:37:02 -0700 (PDT) Received: from gamma (host213-122-168-34.btinternet.com [213.122.168.34]) by proteus.obantec.net (8.10.2/8.10.2) with SMTP id f79KdDp09772; Thu, 9 Aug 2001 21:39:17 +0100 Message-ID: <021801c12112$e085af30$0200a8c0@gamma> From: "Support" To: "Broderick Wood" Cc: References: <20010807161616Z568814-28192+3710@sunkay.cs.ualberta.ca> Subject: Re: Majorcool problem Date: Thu, 9 Aug 2001 21:35:40 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk Hi I added OA/usr/local/majordomo-1.94.5/majordomo.aliases to end of sendmail.cf (restarted sendmail) and all emails get stuck in the mail queue because permissions to use majordomo.aliases.db denied. cannot figure out permissions/ ownership/group for majordomo_aliases.db and why does sendmail not use "aliases" for non majordomo emails. Mark ----- Original Message ----- From: "Broderick Wood" To: Cc: Sent: Tuesday, August 07, 2001 5:16 PM Subject: Re: Majorcool problem > I didn't follow proper protocol myself. You should send to list with CC to > originator. > > No it doesn't add to etd/aliases. You need to add the config in Sendmail to use > the majordomo_aliases file in addition to it's own aliases file. See the Major > Cool documentation for this. > > >Not sure if I should be replying back to you or to > >majordomo-users@GreatCircle.COM (not up on mailing list protocol must do > >some more research) > > > >I found the problem with mj_build_aliases !(it was not in homedir I had > >forgotten to copy it across). > >It seems to add to majordomo_aliases but not what I expected and it does not > >add to /etc/aliases. > > > >Mark > > > >----- Original Message ----- > >From: "Broderick Wood" > >To: > >Sent: Tuesday, August 07, 2001 4:18 PM > >Subject: Re: Majorcool problem > > > > > >> First thing I would check is ythe UID and GID and permissions on the > >mj_aliases > >> file as well as what user/group the web server is running as. This is > >where I > >> had problems before... > >> > >> Try manually running the build_aliases AS the web server UID and GID. > >> > >> >From: "Support" > >> >To: > >> >Subject: Majorcool problem > >> >Date: Mon, 6 Aug 2001 15:11:58 +0100 > >> >MIME-Version: 1.0 > >> >Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > >> >X-Priority: 3 > >> >X-MSMail-Priority: Normal > >> >X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 > >> >X-Envelope-To: <"|IFS=' ' && exec /usr/local/bin/procmail -Y -f- || exit > >75 > >> #bmw"> (uid 16045) > >> >X-Orcpt: rfc822;bmw@cs.ualberta.ca > >> > > >> >Hi > >> >First time posting to the list so sorry if i make a mistake. > >> > > >> >I have majordomo 1.94.5 installed and seems to work. > >> >I have now added majorcool 1.3.2 but cannot get the mj_build_aliases to > >> >work. > >> > > >> >the list is created and here is the output from majorcool > >> > > >> >Validating permissions... > >> >Verifying list name... > >> >Checking for existing aliases... > >> >Adding list 'users'... > >> >Creating default config file... > >> >Setting specified config options... > >> >Sending instructions to 'support@obantec.net' ...Done. > >> >As you see mj_create_list is working but not calling mj_build_alises. > >> >Thanks for any pointers > >> >Mark > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > >> > >> -Broderick Wood- > >> > >> Research Systems Administrator > >> Department of Computing Sciences > >> Athabasca Hall, Room 205 > >> University of Alberta > >> Edmonton, Alberta, Canada > >> T6G 2E1 > >> (780) 492-5018 > >> > >> "Failure is NOT an option; > >> It's bundled with your software." > >> > > > -Broderick Wood- > > Research Systems Administrator > Department of Computing Sciences > Athabasca Hall, Room 205 > University of Alberta > Edmonton, Alberta, Canada > T6G 2E1 > (780) 492-5018 > > "Failure is NOT an option; > It's bundled with your software." > > From majordomo-users-owner Thu Aug 9 14:25:17 2001 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-980720-1) id OAA06484; Thu, 9 Aug 2001 14:06:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: from cloud.ccsf.cc.ca.us (cloud.ccsf.cc.ca.us [147.144.1.212]) by honor.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8B10817E8B for ; Thu, 9 Aug 2001 14:06:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (jjah@localhost) by cloud.ccsf.cc.ca.us (8.10.1/8.10.1) with ESMTP id f79L6Ou15284; Thu, 9 Aug 2001 14:06:24 -0700 (PDT) Date: Thu, 9 Aug 2001 14:06:24 -0700 (PDT) From: "Joe R. Jah" To: David Patterson Cc: majordomo-users@GreatCircle.COM Subject: Re: Problem with list names In-Reply-To: <200108091844.NAA02647@hirs.timpo.osd.mil> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk On 9 Aug 2001, David Patterson wrote: > Date: 09 Aug 2001 14:42:46 CDT > From: David Patterson > To: majordomo-users@GreatCircle.COM > Subject: Problem with list names > > > I have quite a few lists setup, that work mostly. My main problem is when I > issue a 'lists' command to majordomo, only 15 of my 40+ lists show up. > > I have checked the advertise/noadvertise settings, and they are fine(comparing > to a list that does show up). the lists dont have mixed case or numbers in > them, although they do have 'dots'. i.e this.is.a.list > > The only lists that show up are the ones without dots in the name, i.e.: > thislist ---will show up > this.list.wont --wont show up > > If I send the 'who listname.with.dots' command, I get no list errors, even > though I can actually send mail to the lists. > > > how can I get majordomo to recognize the '.' lists? Najordomo only recognizes list names comprised of the following characters: 0123456789abcdefghijklmnopqrstuvwxyz-_ Regards, Joe -- _/ _/_/_/ _/ ____________ __o _/ _/ _/ _/ ______________ _-\<,_ _/ _/ _/_/_/ _/ _/ ......(_)/ (_) _/_/ oe _/ _/. _/_/ ah jjah@cloud.ccsf.cc.ca.us From majordomo-users-owner Thu Aug 9 16:10:16 2001 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-980720-1) id PAA07684; Thu, 9 Aug 2001 15:52:26 -0700 (PDT) Received: from sonny.org (unknown [205.217.137.8]) by honor.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2F37017E8B for ; Thu, 9 Aug 2001 15:52:18 -0700 (PDT) Received: from netscape.com (daniel.sonny.org [205.217.137.65]) by sonny.org (8.8.8/8.8.3) with ESMTP id RAA28151; Thu, 9 Aug 2001 17:52:16 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: <3B73141F.C274C02@netscape.com> Date: Thu, 09 Aug 2001 17:52:15 -0500 From: Daniel Liston Organization: iPlanet eCommerce Solutions, A Sun|Netscape Alliance X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.75 [en] (X11; U; Linux 2.2.16-3 i686) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: David Patterson Cc: majordomo-users@GreatCircle.COM Subject: Re: Problem with list names References: <200108091844.NAA02647@hirs.timpo.osd.mil> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk This is from the NEWLIST file in the Doc directory.... List names must be of the form "[a-z0-9_-]+" (in other words, letters, digits, underbars, or dashes only). List may be of mixed or upper case, but all references to the list name below must be specified in lower case EXCEPT for the -l arguments of resend and majordomo. The is no mention of the dot "." character being allowed in filenames/listnames. Specifically, this character is excluded from the exact list of what is allowed. Therefore, dots are not allowed. (in other words, letters, digits, underbars, or dashes only) Dan Liston David Patterson wrote: > > I have quite a few lists setup, that work mostly. My main problem is when I > issue a 'lists' command to majordomo, only 15 of my 40+ lists show up. > > I have checked the advertise/noadvertise settings, and they are fine(comparing > to a list that does show up). the lists dont have mixed case or numbers in > them, although they do have 'dots'. i.e this.is.a.list > > The only lists that show up are the ones without dots in the name, i.e.: > thislist ---will show up > this.list.wont --wont show up > > If I send the 'who listname.with.dots' command, I get no list errors, even > though I can actually send mail to the lists. > > how can I get majordomo to recognize the '.' lists? From majordomo-users-owner Fri Aug 10 01:23:58 2001 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-980720-1) id BAA13519; Fri, 10 Aug 2001 01:03:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: from makalu.mos.com.np (makalu.mos.com.np [202.52.255.1]) by honor.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8223117E8B for ; Fri, 10 Aug 2001 01:03:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: from menris1.icimod.org.np (menris1.icimod.org.np [202.52.254.1]) by makalu.mos.com.np (8.11.3/8.11.2) with ESMTP id f7A83MA03473 for ; Fri, 10 Aug 2001 13:48:22 +0545 (NPT) Received: from arcpc.icimod.org.np (IDENT:root@arcpc.icimod.org.np [202.52.254.15]) by menris1.icimod.org.np (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id NAA18108 for ; Fri, 10 Aug 2001 13:47:48 -0545 Received: from menris1.icimod.org.np (IDENT:root@localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by arcpc.icimod.org.np (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id NAA06592 for ; Fri, 10 Aug 2001 13:56:35 +0545 Date: Fri, 10 Aug 2001 13:47:47 -0545 (NST ) From: Saisab Pradhan To: majordomo-users@greatcircle.com Subject: seeking help in archiving with majordomo Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk Hi, Our organization has been using majordomo in AIX unix for quite sometime for managing mailing lists. Now we want to archive our mailing list. I used archive2.pl to do this job putting in /etc/aliases as instructed by majordomo faq but to no avail. It doesn't give any errors, mailing list is working fine but the archiving is not done. Can someone advise what to do?? Any help will greatly be appreciated. thanks in advance saisab From majordomo-users-owner Fri Aug 10 07:10:25 2001 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-980720-1) id GAA20546; Fri, 10 Aug 2001 06:50:54 -0700 (PDT) Received: from SvrDom01.cmaontheweb.com (unknown [204.252.239.230]) by honor.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9367817E8B for ; Fri, 10 Aug 2001 06:50:42 -0700 (PDT) To: Majordomo-Users@GreatCircle.COM Subject: MOVE FROM Pegasus/NT to majordomo/Linux MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Lotus Notes Release 5.0.7 March 21, 2001 Message-ID: From: jwesley@CMAontheweb.com Date: Fri, 10 Aug 2001 08:50:38 -0500 X-MIMETrack: Serialize by Router on SvrDom01/CMA(Release 5.0.8 |June 18, 2001) at 08/10/2001 08:50:42 AM, Serialize complete at 08/10/2001 08:50:42 AM Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="=_alternative 004BF64C86256AA4_=" Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk This is a multipart message in MIME format. --=_alternative 004BF64C86256AA4_= Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sorry to post this again, but i wasn't on the list and i don't know if anyone responded to ... Ok I want to say first, yes i read the FAQ and I found some documentation on MD and read all that, but now my questions are getting really detailed, so I will ask the MD community... I have list that I would like only a few people to send to(i.e. more like a mailing list instead of a list server..) I saw the "restrict_post" on the .config for the list but after I set it up it still did not work, IT still allows anyone to post to the list. here is what i put in the config file restrict_post = /usr/lib/majordomo/lists/testlist.adm the file just list email address of allowed posters. Another issue... I would like when people reply to a mail out, to not reply to the sender but another mail account (i.e. newsleter@domain.com) so a dedicated person can read over the replies. but when i set this in the config file, it also did not work. Thanks for your help Jeremy Wesley Web Designer-Flasher-ASP MCP I, MCSE I, MCDBA Cherbonnier Mayer & Associates Office 225.927.9200 X334 Pager 225.660.8778 www.cmaontheweb.com --=_alternative 004BF64C86256AA4_= Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii"

Sorry to post this again, but i wasn't on the list and i don't know if anyone responded to ...

Ok I want to say first, yes i read the FAQ and I found some documentation on MD and read all that, but now my questions are getting really detailed, so I will ask the MD community...

I have list that I would like only a few people to send to(i.e. more like a mailing list instead of a list server..) I saw the "restrict_post" on the .config for the list but after I set it up it still did not work, IT still allows anyone to post to the list.
here is what i put in the config file
restrict_post       = /usr/lib/majordomo/lists/testlist.adm
 the file just list email address of allowed posters.

Another issue...
I would like when people reply to a mail out, to not reply to the sender but another mail account (i.e. newsleter@domain.com) so a dedicated person can read over the replies. but when i set this in the config file, it also did not work.
Thanks for your help


Jeremy Wesley
Web Designer-Flasher-ASP
MCP I, MCSE I, MCDBA
Cherbonnier Mayer & Associates
Office 225.927.9200 X334
Pager  225.660.8778
www.cmaontheweb.com
--=_alternative 004BF64C86256AA4_=-- From majordomo-users-owner Fri Aug 10 07:25:26 2001 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-980720-1) id HAA20949; Fri, 10 Aug 2001 07:15:19 -0700 (PDT) Received: from polhemus04.polhemus.cc (vsat-148-71-110-210.ssa4.mcl.starband.net [148.71.110.210]) by honor.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5501217E8B for ; Fri, 10 Aug 2001 07:14:58 -0700 (PDT) Received: from polhemus02 (polhemus01 [192.168.1.1]) by polhemus04.polhemus.cc (8.9.3/8.8.7) with SMTP id OAA13475; Fri, 10 Aug 2001 14:05:46 GMT From: "Bill Polhemus" To: "Saisab Pradhan" , Subject: RE: seeking help in archiving with majordomo Date: Fri, 10 Aug 2001 09:05:46 -0500 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.3018.1300 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk My experience with this was that you have got to have the directories set up correctly, with proper permissions. You need to give a complete list of all the pathnames to the requisite directories, and also the lines in majordomo.cf that point to where these directories are. We'll see if they match up. William L. Polhemus, Jr., P.E. Polhemus Engineering Company Katy, Texas Phone 281-492-2251 Fax 281-492-8203 > -----Original Message----- > From: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM > [mailto:majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM]On Behalf Of Saisab > Pradhan > Sent: Friday, August 10, 2001 2:33 PM > To: majordomo-users@GreatCircle.COM > Subject: seeking help in archiving with majordomo > > > Hi, > > Our organization has been using majordomo in AIX unix for quite > sometime for > managing mailing lists. Now we want to archive our mailing list. I used > archive2.pl to do this job putting in /etc/aliases as instructed by > majordomo faq but to no avail. It doesn't give any errors, mailing list > is working fine but the archiving is not done. Can someone advise what to > do?? From majordomo-users-owner Fri Aug 10 07:40:24 2001 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-980720-1) id HAA21022; Fri, 10 Aug 2001 07:19:51 -0700 (PDT) Received: from sonny.org (unknown [205.217.137.8]) by honor.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5379717E8B for ; Fri, 10 Aug 2001 07:19:41 -0700 (PDT) Received: from netscape.com (daniel.sonny.org [205.217.137.65]) by sonny.org (8.8.8/8.8.3) with ESMTP id JAA01967; Fri, 10 Aug 2001 09:18:39 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: <3B73ED3E.58021189@netscape.com> Date: Fri, 10 Aug 2001 09:18:38 -0500 From: Daniel Liston Organization: iPlanet eCommerce Solutions, A Sun|Netscape Alliance X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.75 [en] (X11; U; Linux 2.2.16-3 i686) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Saisab Pradhan Cc: majordomo-users@greatcircle.com Subject: Re: seeking help in archiving with majordomo References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk Have you read the FAQ and NEWLIST files that come with majordomo? Section 2 of the FAQ touches on a couple archiving questions, but the NEWLIST file has detailed examples of how to set up your aliases for archiving your lists. Dan Liston Saisab Pradhan wrote: > > Hi, > > Our organization has been using majordomo in AIX unix for quite sometime for > managing mailing lists. Now we want to archive our mailing list. I used > archive2.pl to do this job putting in /etc/aliases as instructed by > majordomo faq but to no avail. It doesn't give any errors, mailing list > is working fine but the archiving is not done. Can someone advise what to > do?? > > Any help will greatly be appreciated. > > thanks in advance > > saisab From majordomo-users-owner Fri Aug 10 07:55:23 2001 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-980720-1) id HAA21270; Fri, 10 Aug 2001 07:42:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: from adore.lightlink.com (adore.lightlink.com [205.232.34.20]) by honor.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B258617E8B for ; Fri, 10 Aug 2001 07:42:38 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (homer@localhost) by adore.lightlink.com (8.8.6/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA25290 for ; Fri, 10 Aug 2001 10:42:35 -0400 (EDT) Date: Fri, 10 Aug 2001 10:42:34 -0400 (EDT) From: Homer Wilson Smith To: Subject: owner-list-l Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk I have restrict_posting set to a file name with homer@lightlink.com in it. Someone sent mail to list-l From: owner-list-l and it posted it Why? Thanks Homer ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Homer Wilson Smith Clean Air, Clear Water, Art Matrix - Lightlink (607) 277-0959 A Green Earth and Peace. Internet Access, Ithaca NY homer@lightlink.com Is that too much to ask? http://www.lightlink.com From majordomo-users-owner Fri Aug 10 08:55:30 2001 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-980720-1) id IAA22117; Fri, 10 Aug 2001 08:42:26 -0700 (PDT) Received: from sonny.org (unknown [205.217.137.8]) by honor.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1AE8317E8B for ; Fri, 10 Aug 2001 08:42:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: from netscape.com (daniel.sonny.org [205.217.137.65]) by sonny.org (8.8.8/8.8.3) with ESMTP id KAA02282; Fri, 10 Aug 2001 10:42:08 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: <3B7400D0.81F5FA60@netscape.com> Date: Fri, 10 Aug 2001 10:42:08 -0500 From: Daniel Liston Organization: iPlanet eCommerce Solutions, A Sun|Netscape Alliance X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.75 [en] (X11; U; Linux 2.2.16-3 i686) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Bill Guion , majordomo-users@greatcircle.com Subject: Re: Problem with list names References: <200108091844.NAA02647@hirs.timpo.osd.mil> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk No, the [, ], and + are characters that are used to form regular expressions. Specifically, the square brackets enclose the set of characters to be allowed in a specific position, the plus sign indicates the number of iterations of the character used must be at least one, and the quote marks indicate the begining and end of the expression itself. For example, to search the dictionary, or an entire set of encylopedias, and a phone book, with regular expression to find every word that starts with m followed by o, followed by a number or letter any number of times but must be at least once [a-z0-9]+ and ending with - would look like this; "mo[a-z0-9]+-". I should not find too many words, but my search is well defined. In the case of majordomo, you see many uses of regular expressions. You see them in the listname.config files in settings like; advertise/noadvertise and taboo body/headers. Also in the mail majordomo.cf file for taboo settings, but instead of enclosing the expressions in quote marks, they are typically enclosed with slant (forward slash) characters. Dan Liston Bill Guion wrote: > > Aren't the characters []+ also included? Isn't everything between the > qoutes included? > > Daniel Liston wrote: > > >This is from the NEWLIST file in the Doc directory.... > > > >List names must be of the form "[a-z0-9_-]+" (in other words, letters, > >digits, underbars, or dashes only). From majordomo-users-owner Fri Aug 10 10:09:22 2001 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-980720-1) id JAA23158; Fri, 10 Aug 2001 09:54:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: from sonny.org (unknown [205.217.137.8]) by honor.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 16A1217E8B for ; Fri, 10 Aug 2001 09:54:35 -0700 (PDT) Received: from netscape.com (dliston.sonny.org [205.217.137.70]) by sonny.org (8.8.8/8.8.3) with ESMTP id LAA02561; Fri, 10 Aug 2001 11:54:26 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: <3B741179.FF9641A1@netscape.com> Date: Fri, 10 Aug 2001 11:53:13 -0500 From: Daniel Liston Organization: iPlanet E-Commerce Solutions, A Sun Netscape Alliance X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.78 [en] (X11; U; Linux 2.4.2-2 i686) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: jwesley@CMAontheweb.com Cc: Majordomo-Users@GreatCircle.COM Subject: Re: MOVE FROM Pegasus/NT to majordomo/Linux References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk You have broken the cardinal rule for getting support. What is your configuration? Hardware, MTA, version numbers??? Just guessing at problem #1, is that you are not using the 'resend' command in your list alias, so that your list.config will even get accessed. test: "|path-to/majordomo/wrapper resend -l test test-outgoing,nobody" test-outgoing: :include:/path-to/majordomo/lists/test nobody: /dev/null Once your listname.config file starts getting used, the restrict_post can be enforced. On issue #2, use the "reply_to = newsletter@domain.com" setting in the .config file. Dan Liston jwesley@CMAontheweb.com wrote: > > Sorry to post this again, but i wasn't on the list and i don't know if anyone responded to ... > > Ok I want to say first, yes i read the FAQ and I found some documentation on MD and read all that, but now my questions are getting really detailed, so I will ask the MD community... > > I have list that I would like only a few people to send to(i.e. more like a mailing list instead of a list server..) I saw the "restrict_post" on the .config for the list but after I set it up it still did not work, IT still allows anyone to post to the list. > here is what i put in the config file > restrict_post = /usr/lib/majordomo/lists/testlist.adm > the file just list email address of allowed posters. > > Another issue... > I would like when people reply to a mail out, to not reply to the sender but another mail account (i.e. newsleter@domain.com) so a dedicated person can read over the replies. but when i set this in the config file, it also did not work. > Thanks for your help > > Jeremy Wesley > Web Designer-Flasher-ASP > MCP I, MCSE I, MCDBA > Cherbonnier Mayer & Associates > Office 225.927.9200 X334 > Pager 225.660.8778 > www.cmaontheweb.com From majordomo-users-owner Fri Aug 10 10:24:06 2001 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-980720-1) id KAA23512; Fri, 10 Aug 2001 10:14:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mailhub1.gov.nf.ca (gov-1-77.gov.nf.ca [209.128.28.77]) by honor.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id DDA7B17E8B for ; Fri, 10 Aug 2001 10:14:29 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mailhub2 (mailhub2.gov.nf.ca [10.3.200.103]) by mailhub1.gov.nf.ca (Build 101 8.9.3/NT-8.9.3) with SMTP id OAA19340 for ; Fri, 10 Aug 2001 14:44:28 -0230 Received: FROM MAIL.GOV.NF.CA BY mailhub2 ; Fri Aug 10 14:44:27 2001 -0200 Received: from GOV_NF_PRIMARY-Message_Server by MAIL.GOV.NF.CA with Novell_GroupWise; Fri, 10 Aug 2001 14:44:07 -0230 Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise 5.5.4 Date: Fri, 10 Aug 2001 14:37:31 -0230 From: "Robert Miller" To: Subject: HTML Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="=_7E243C4F.85E4C326" Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk --=_7E243C4F.85E4C326 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline Is/will an HTML filter be available for Majordomo? Either: (most favourite) strip tags and present plain messages, or bounce = to the author with a bounce explanation. Rob --=_7E243C4F.85E4C326 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="TEXT.htm"
Is/will an HTML filter be available for Majordomo?
 
Either: (most favourite) strip tags and present plain messages, or bounce to the author with a bounce explanation.
 
Rob
--=_7E243C4F.85E4C326-- From majordomo-users-owner Fri Aug 10 11:08:04 2001 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-980720-1) id LAA24107; Fri, 10 Aug 2001 11:02:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: from smtp-server3.tampabay.rr.com (smtp-server3.tampabay.rr.com [65.32.1.41]) by honor.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A7F1217E8B for ; Fri, 10 Aug 2001 11:02:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: from alpha.rask.com (653476hfc221.tampabay.rr.com [65.34.76.221]) by smtp-server3.tampabay.rr.com (8.11.2/8.11.2) with ESMTP id f7AI2Mx28114 for ; Fri, 10 Aug 2001 14:02:22 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <5.1.0.14.2.20010810135732.00a7ddf0@rask.com> X-Sender: ian@rask.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Fri, 10 Aug 2001 13:59:47 -0700 To: Majordomo-Users@GreatCircle.COM From: Ian LeBlanc Subject: Plesk + qmail + Majordomo Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk If anyone is using the domain management program called PLESK on their server which uses Qmail as the MTA and still needs help setting up Majordomo .... email me.... I have written a perl script that will set up the mailing list correctly on your system. Which is way different than the instructions say for a normal qmail system. -- Regards, Ian LeBlanc System Administrator / Software Development Rask, Inc. - www.rask.com Phone: (727) 517-2000 Fax: (727) 517-2001 #################################### Help out in the fight against spam goto http://www.spamcop.net for more info #################################### From majordomo-users-owner Fri Aug 10 11:52:51 2001 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-980720-1) id LAA24555; Fri, 10 Aug 2001 11:39:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: from eagle.netwrx1.com (unknown [156.46.225.18]) by honor.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2D2BF17E8B for ; Fri, 10 Aug 2001 11:39:35 -0700 (PDT) Received: from 1cust129.tnt2.milwaukee.wi.da.uu.net ([65.224.246.129] helo=NOTEBOOK1) by eagle.netwrx1.com with smtp (Exim 3.32 #1) id 15VHBn-00015s-00; Fri, 10 Aug 2001 13:39:19 -0500 From: "George R.Kasica" To: "Robert Miller" Cc: Subject: Re: HTML Date: Fri, 10 Aug 2001 13:39:18 -0500 Organization: Netwrx Consulting Inc. Reply-To: georgek@netwrx1.com Message-ID: <9ga8nts3d7rttei2l0poak8e8ek41ur1kt@4ax.com> References: In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: Forte Agent 1.8/32.548 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Scanner: exiscan *15VHBn-00015s-00*3Ar7Jx8NS4A* http://duncanthrax.net/exiscan/ Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk On Fri, 10 Aug 2001 14:37:31 -0230, you wrote: >Is/will an HTML filter be available for Majordomo? > >Either: (most favourite) strip tags and present plain messages, or bounce to the author with a bounce explanation. > >Rob Its out there now...called demime. I just installed it this morning here and it seems to work well. Here is the URL: http://scifi.squawk.com/demime.html George George, MR. Tibbs, Nazerene & The Beast Kasica(8/1/88-3/19/01) Jaxkson, WI USA georgek@netwrx1.com http://www.netwrx1.com ICQ #12862186 Zz zZ |\ z _,,,---,,_ /,`.-'`' _ ;-;;,_ |,4- ) )-,_..;\ ( `'_' '---''(_/--' `-'\_) From majordomo-users-owner Fri Aug 10 14:07:52 2001 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-980720-1) id NAA26070; Fri, 10 Aug 2001 13:51:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: from sonny.org (unknown [205.217.137.8]) by honor.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D36D617E8B for ; Fri, 10 Aug 2001 13:50:50 -0700 (PDT) Received: from netscape.com (daniel.sonny.org [205.217.137.65]) by sonny.org (8.8.8/8.8.3) with ESMTP id PAA03733; Fri, 10 Aug 2001 15:50:50 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: <3B744929.CC83EAEF@netscape.com> Date: Fri, 10 Aug 2001 15:50:49 -0500 From: Daniel Liston Organization: iPlanet eCommerce Solutions, A Sun|Netscape Alliance X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.75 [en] (X11; U; Linux 2.2.16-3 i686) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: majordomo-users@greatcircle.com Subject: Re: seeking help in archiving with majordomo References: <20010810183032.BKFL13972.spn19c0@[10.10.20.19]> Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------2404F31AF6CDC379420DFF0A" Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------2404F31AF6CDC379420DFF0A Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit NEWLIST is a file that comes with the installation files in the majordomo tarball. It is probably in your /usr/local/majordomo* directory heirarchy somewhere, but I am attaching it anyway. Also, here is a sample of my aliases for a list called "test" which archives messages. nobody: /dev/null test: "|/opt/mj1945/wrapper resend -l test test-outgoing,nobody" owner-test: dan, test-owner: owner-test test-outgoing: :include:/opt/mj1945/lists/test, test-archiver test-archiver: "|/opt/mj1945/wrapper archive2.pl -f /opt/mj1945/files/test/test -a -M" test-request: "|/opt/mj1945/wrapper request-answer test" test-approval: owner-test dan: me@my.domain Now, to explain the aliases; The nobody: alias is probably already defined this way, but I include it because I reference the nobody address in the test: alias. I put the test-archiver address on the test-outgoing address so administrative or BOUNCE emails do not end up in the archive. test-archiver is self explanatory up to the -f option. archive2.pl has 3 parts, 1. /opt/mj1945/files --- this must match the majordomo.cf $filedir = "/opt/mj1945/files"; $filedir_suffix = ""; 2. /test/ --- is a hard coded subdirectory appended to $filedir by majordomo for storing archives which matches the name of your list being archived. Majordomo will also append any value in $filedir_suffix to this directory name if you define it to anything other than empty/null with "". For example, if $filedir_suffix = ".archive", then /test/ above would have to become /test.archive/ 3. test -a -M --- this is the basename of your archive. The -a appends new messages to the file as they come in, and the -M gives your filename an extension of YYYYMM date stamp and automatically starts a new file/archive each month. Note: If you are using sendmail newer than 8.7, the directory structure above must not be group or world writable, and need to match the ownerships defined in your Makefile for W_USER and W_GROUP. Dan Liston Anthony Gonzalez wrote: > > Daniel, > Good afternoon! > My name is Anthony and we're on release majordomo-1.94.4. > We're also help with archiving, and I wanted to ask you if the information that you provided on the attached email pertains to our release. > We looked in http://www.greatcircle.com/majordomo/majordomo-faq.html, but we could not find the NEWLIST. > Any suggestions are appreciate it. > Anthony > ============================================================ > From: Daniel Liston > Date: 2001/08/10 Fri AM 10:18:38 EDT > To: Saisab Pradhan > CC: majordomo-users@greatcircle.com > Subject: Re: seeking help in archiving with majordomo > > Have you read the FAQ and NEWLIST files that come with majordomo? Section 2 > of the FAQ touches on a couple archiving questions, but the NEWLIST file has > detailed examples of how to set up your aliases for archiving your lists. > > Dan Liston --------------2404F31AF6CDC379420DFF0A Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; name="NEWLIST" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline; filename="NEWLIST" _ _ ____ _ ____ ____ ___ ____ _ _ ____ |\/| |__| | | | |__/ | \ | | |\/| | | | | | | _| |__| | \ |__/ |__| | | |__| Release 1.94.4 NEWLIST -------------------------------------------------------------------------- List names must be of the form "[a-z0-9_-]+" (in other words, letters, digits, underbars, or dashes only). List may be of mixed or upper case, but all references to the list name below must be specified in lower case EXCEPT for the -l arguments of resend and majordomo. To create a list: 1) Create an empty file called in $listdir, mode 664. 2) Create a file called ".info" in $listdir, mode 664, with the initial introductory info for the list in it. 3) Create the appropriate entries for the list in your Sendmail aliases file (/etc/aliases or a separate majordomo.aliases file.) Each list requires several aliases. For an example list called 'test', these aliases are required: test The list alias itself owner-test The owner of the list (who should get bounces) test-request The address for administrative requests. test-approval The person who approves postings to the list (for moderated lists as well as unmoderated ones) These would look like this: test: :include:/usr/test/majordomo-1.94.3/lists/test owner-test: you, test-request: "|/usr/test/majordomo-1.94.3/wrapper request-answer test" test-approval: you It's more likely that the outgoing messages to the list will be passed through "resend" to catch Majordomo commands, as well as give other useful features. A typical set of aliases without anything fancy, such as archiving or digesting, would look like this: test: "|/usr/test/majordomo-1.94.3/wrapper resend -l test test-list" test-list: :include:/usr/test/majordomo-1.94.3/lists/test owner-test: you, test-owner: you test-request: "|/usr/test/majordomo-1.94.3/wrapper majordomo -l test" Finally, a more complete set of aliases that provides digestification, archiving, and header manipulation would look like: test:"|/tools/majordomo/wrapper resend -l test -h cs.umb.edu test-outgoing" test-digest:test # I put the digest and archive programs on the outgoing list so that # messages bounced by resend don't end up in the digest or archive # unless I send them through resend explicitly. test-outgoing: :include:/usr/local/Lists/test, "| /tools/majordomo/wrapper digest -r -C -l test-digest test-digest-outgoing", "| /tools/majordomo/wrapper archive2.pl -a -m -f /usr/local/mail/archive/test/test.archive" # archive produces a monthly archive with the -m flag. test-digest-outgoing::include:/usr/local/Lists/test-digest owner-test:you, owner-test-outgoing:owner-test # note that the "-digest" and "-digest-outgoing" suffixes # are required to allow the majordomo mkdigest command, and the # config code to work properly. owner-test-digest:owner-test owner-test-digest-outgoing:owner-test test-request: "|/tools/majordomo/wrapper request-answer test" test-digest-request: "|/tools/majordomo/wrapper request-answer test-digest" test-approval:you, test-digest-approval:test-approval As you can see, setting up a list can be quite complex. You can run majordomo at the -request address (recommended), and it will handle requests such as: subscribe unsubscribe signoff without requiring the user to supply a list name. To do this set up an alias similar to: test-request: "|/tools/majordomo/wrapper majordomo -l test" Where the argument to -l is the name of the list. Hopefully in a future release of majordomo archive2.pl will be integrated into majordomo so that the frequency of archive rollover (daily, monthly, yearly) will be controllable via the config file mechanism. ***** NOTE: CONVERTING FROM A PREVIOUS MAJORDOMO VERSION ***** For those who are converting from an earlier version of majordomo, note that resend has very few command line arguments. If you don't strip the command line arguments from resend, the comments in the configuration file that deal with default values for resend will be incorrect. More examples of alias setups can be found in the file majordomo.aliases. For sendmail users, don't forget to run 'newaliases' to rebuild the alias database. 4) If the list will be archived, create an archive directory in the location specified by the $filedir and $filedir_suffix variables. 5) If the list has a digest, create a digest work (incoming) subdirectory under $digest_work_dir. Use the same name as the digest list (example: test-digest). You also must create an archive directory for the digest list as explained in step 4. 6) Finally, make sure everything is owned by user majordomo, group majordomo, and writable by both owner and group (i.e., mode 664 for files and mode 775 for directories). 7) Now issue a 'config .admin' command to Majordomo. This will cause it to create a default configuration file for the list, and send it back to you. Make any desired changes, SUCH AS CHANGING THE DEFAULT PASSWORDS, as well as adding a description, and send it back with the 'newconfig' command. Now send a test subscribe and unsubscribe, just to further verify that the list is working. --------------2404F31AF6CDC379420DFF0A-- From majordomo-users-owner Fri Aug 10 15:37:54 2001 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-980720-1) id PAA27182; Fri, 10 Aug 2001 15:31:56 -0700 (PDT) Received: from smtp4.netcommanders.net (99-186-179-208.netcommanders.net [208.179.186.99]) by honor.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with SMTP id 653A317EAE for ; Fri, 10 Aug 2001 15:31:50 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 10371 invoked from network); 10 Aug 2001 22:19:47 -0000 Received: from 52-186-179-208.netcommanders.net (HELO james) (208.179.186.52) by 170-186-179-208.netcommanders.net with SMTP; 10 Aug 2001 22:19:47 -0000 Message-ID: <00b901c121eb$fc218190$34bab3d0@james> From: "JT" To: References: <9ga8nts3d7rttei2l0poak8e8ek41ur1kt@4ax.com> Subject: Re: HTML Date: Fri, 10 Aug 2001 15:29:57 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk Majordomo-1.94.5 Linux Mandrake 8.0 Qmail 1.03 (heavily customized) I have a particular need to do pre-posting (before an approved message is actually mailed) processing and post-posting (after the major has finished submitting the messages to the resend agent) am highly knoledgeable on majordomo I'm in and out of the majors scripts all the time but this project just came in and now I need to do both mentioned functions on a subscriber mailing list.. What I need to do is the following On a sucessfully authenticated message for posting I need major to pause and run a CGI script which will split a list of 180k into three and drop each one into a spacific folder and then resume it's operation however I also need major to send messages to 3 resend agents (injectors) meanig that I need it to loop through the address list as it normally does but instead of submitting all addresses to a single resend I want it to submit 1 address to each resend and keep looping through the list untill it is done. So in effect I'll be cracking a 180k list down into 3 seperate lists each one being 60k addresses for which major will then send to. I can think of several ways to do this... 1. Divide the list into three then have a seperate cf for each one and one (which is what I am doing now) 2. New scripting for the actual major script which would look in the cf files for a list of resnd agents and then use them as it normally would I can think of more but I believe either one of the two above would be the easiest to figure out. I already have a temp system figured out for the client now. I run a cron job at midnight which splits the list into three and each one has it's own cf file while the main list (the master) remains untouched so sub and unsub commands all work the same way they always have Then for posting I have a special alias setup which sends to all there cf's... He just can't post untill little after midnight which he is fine with but I'm not. I'd rather like to figure out a better way for major to accomplish this and remove the time restriction I had to give him. Normally this would be a problem becuase the way I have our qmqp servers setup we process a list of 40k in 11 minutes so speed is not the issue however the client is heavy into media services and political stuff and he has a list of some 180k+ addresses that he wants to send to 3 times a day (sigh not looking forward to looking at my abuse account) however at 3 times a day and defferals and murfys law .. I think I need to figure out how to have major do some of this work so I don't have to worry about when he's posting and if the lists were split before he posted and everything else you can think of. Any help would be appreciated. --JT Network Administrator http://www.webcommanders.com From majordomo-users-owner Fri Aug 10 15:52:53 2001 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-980720-1) id PAA27278; Fri, 10 Aug 2001 15:40:15 -0700 (PDT) Received: from chmls16.mediaone.net (chmls16.mediaone.net [24.147.1.151]) by honor.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B6DB817E8B for ; Fri, 10 Aug 2001 15:40:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: from stephen1 (h002078cc1b2f.ne.mediaone.net [65.96.101.252]) by chmls16.mediaone.net (8.11.1/8.11.1) with SMTP id f7AMdkT06047 for ; Fri, 10 Aug 2001 18:39:46 -0400 (EDT) Reply-To: From: "Stephen J. Cotton" To: "Majordomo-Users@Greatcircle. Com" Subject: internet headers: Received: Date: Tue, 10 Jul 2001 18:34:42 -0400 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2462.0000 Importance: Normal Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk I am trying to eliminate multiple postings from the same message being processed with Mj and Sendmail. I have found some good info to help me understand the process (of the Received: entries) but what I don't understand is why a server is in the loop of the multiple Received: entries. The first time I get a message the internet headers are simple and not to many hops but then after the 3rd copy there is Received: entries from servers I don't understand why are they getting in the transfer from machine to machine process. Below is a partial header. Why does the "creations-woodworks.com" server get involved? And the other machines get involved before getting to its destination. Thanks for any insight into this and what steps I should take to stop the dups --- snip ---- Received: (from mail@localhost) by mail.augi.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id MAA26937 for hot-news-28442382; Fri, 10 Aug 2001 12:00:41 -0700 (PDT) Received: from creations-woodworks.com (d1c462cd.gw306.dsl.airmail.net [209.196.98.205]) by mail.augi.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA26928 for ; Fri, 10 Aug 2001 12:00:36 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pop3.covad.net (account creawood) by creations-woodworks.com (CommuniGate Pro RPOP 3.3) with RPOP id 20091; Fri, 10 Aug 2001 14:00:49 -0500 Received: from server28.hypermart.net (server28.hypermart.net [206.253.222.119]) by smtp3.covad.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id OAA15777 for ; Fri, 10 Aug 2001 14:58:18 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 87695 invoked by alias); 10 Aug 2001 18:58:17 -0000 Delivered-To: alias-hmv-khatcher@creations-woodworks.com Received: (qmail 87688 invoked from network); 10 Aug 2001 18:58:17 -0000 Received: from mail.augi.com (216.122.89.203) by server28.hypermart.net with SMTP; 10 Aug 2001 18:58:17 -0000 Received: (from mail@localhost) by mail.augi.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id EAA10767 for hotnews01-33999633; Fri, 10 Aug 2001 04:18:57 -0700 (PDT) --- snip --- And what is this: X-UIDL: XSX!!]iZ!!]&Z!!`@N!! -Stephen From majordomo-users-owner Fri Aug 10 16:52:53 2001 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-980720-1) id QAA28002; Fri, 10 Aug 2001 16:44:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: from proteus.obantec.net (unknown [213.171.197.193]) by honor.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D70DA17E8B for ; Fri, 10 Aug 2001 16:44:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: from gamma (host213-122-119-113.btinternet.com [213.122.119.113]) by proteus.obantec.net (8.10.2/8.10.2) with SMTP id f7ANkwW16746 for ; Sat, 11 Aug 2001 00:46:58 +0100 Message-ID: <057e01c121f6$29327a90$0200a8c0@gamma> From: "Support" To: Subject: Aliases problem Date: Sat, 11 Aug 2001 00:42:41 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk Hi Ok I have installed majordomo-1.94.5 and latest majorcool. Added mj_build_aliases and done mods to sendmail.cf to include /etc/majordomo.aliases When I run majorcool it make list ok and adds to majordomo_aliases but how do I get it to add aliases to majordomo.aliases I am not total sure of syntax on the .args file for switches and am confused by the 2 files majordomo_aliases and majordomo.aliases I take it these are the right names and not a syntax error. Mark From majordomo-users-owner Fri Aug 10 17:23:05 2001 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-980720-1) id RAA28369; Fri, 10 Aug 2001 17:15:15 -0700 (PDT) Received: from sonny.org (unknown [205.217.137.8]) by honor.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6214217E8B for ; Fri, 10 Aug 2001 17:15:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: from netscape.com (daniel.sonny.org [205.217.137.65]) by sonny.org (8.8.8/8.8.3) with ESMTP id TAA04503; Fri, 10 Aug 2001 19:15:09 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: <3B74790D.81930FAA@netscape.com> Date: Fri, 10 Aug 2001 19:15:09 -0500 From: Daniel Liston Organization: iPlanet eCommerce Solutions, A Sun|Netscape Alliance X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.75 [en] (X11; U; Linux 2.2.16-3 i686) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: majordomo-users@greatcircle.com Subject: Re: owner-list-l References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk Are you using sendmail as your MTA? What does your alias for the list-l and owner-list-l look like? Does sendmail "Trust" majordomo? Do you have moderation enabled, that forces an approval password for posting to the list? What version of majordomo are you running? Dan Liston Homer Wilson Smith wrote: > > I have restrict_posting set to a file name with homer@lightlink.com in it. > > Someone sent mail to list-l From: owner-list-l and it posted it > > Why? From majordomo-users-owner Fri Aug 10 21:51:45 2001 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-980720-1) id VAA01352; Fri, 10 Aug 2001 21:35:30 -0700 (PDT) Received: from chinet.chinet.com (chinet.com [64.232.6.20]) by honor.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id DF66D17E8B for ; Fri, 10 Aug 2001 21:35:23 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (ahk@localhost) by chinet.chinet.com (8.11.2/8.9.3) with ESMTP id f7B4ZD005482 for ; Fri, 10 Aug 2001 23:35:14 -0500 Date: Fri, 10 Aug 2001 23:35:13 -0500 (CDT) From: "Adam H. Kerman" Cc: Subject: Re: HTML In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: MULTIPART/Mixed; BOUNDARY="=_7E243C4F.85E4C326" Content-ID: Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk This message is in MIME format. The first part should be readable text, while the remaining parts are likely unreadable without MIME-aware tools. Send mail to mime@docserver.cac.washington.edu for more info. --=_7E243C4F.85E4C326 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII Content-ID: Content-Disposition: INLINE On 08/10/01, at 2:37pm -0230, Robert Miller wrote: >Is/will an HTML filter be available for Majordomo? >Either: (most favourite) strip tags and present plain messages, or bounce to the author with a bounce explanation. Was this meant to be a joke? Your own message contains an HTML alternate-part attachment not marked as HTML. --=_7E243C4F.85E4C326 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII Content-ID: Content-Description: Content-Disposition: ATTACHMENT; FILENAME="TEXT.htm"
Is/will an HTML filter be available for Majordomo?
 
Either: (most favourite) strip tags and present plain messages, or bounce to the author with a bounce explanation.
 
Rob
--=_7E243C4F.85E4C326-- From majordomo-users-owner Sun Aug 12 02:52:00 2001 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-980720-1) id CAA19301; Sun, 12 Aug 2001 02:36:15 -0700 (PDT) Received: from proteus.obantec.net (unknown [213.171.197.193]) by honor.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 25F7817EAF for ; Sun, 12 Aug 2001 02:36:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: from gamma (host213-122-123-9.btinternet.com [213.122.123.9]) by proteus.obantec.net (8.10.2/8.10.2) with SMTP id f7C9cxW00393 for ; Sun, 12 Aug 2001 10:39:00 +0100 Message-ID: <085901c12312$0e8168b0$0200a8c0@gamma> From: "Support" To: Subject: More Aliases woe's Date: Sun, 12 Aug 2001 10:34:53 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk Latest majordomo/majorcool all runs fine to a point. mj_create_list runs as i can see the list it builds. However mj_build_aliases only creates these lines on each test in majordomo_aliases # # green4 (UNAVAILABLE) # green4: "|/usr/local/majordomo/wrapper mj_list-unavail green4" green4-request: "|/usr/local/majordomo/wrapper majordomo -l green4" Now using Webmin (web based tool) to create list will create the expected values as seen here. green5: "|/usr/local/majordomo/wrapper resend -l green5 green5-list" green5-list: :include:/usr/local/majordomo/lists/green5 owner-green5: webmaster@mds.cc green5-owner: webmaster@mds.cc green5-approval: webmaster@mds.cc green5-request: "|/usr/local/majordomo/wrapper majordomo -l green5" How do i get mj_build_aliases to do same, is it the args in mj_build_aliases.args? if so what should they be? And once it is building to majordomo_aliases how do i get them to /etc/majordomo.aliases do i need another program? Mark From majordomo-users-owner Sun Aug 12 06:37:01 2001 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-980720-1) id GAA22632; Sun, 12 Aug 2001 06:31:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: from krusty-motorsports.com (krusty1.krusty-motorsports.com [192.94.170.8]) by honor.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id DCB8217EAF for ; Sun, 12 Aug 2001 06:31:11 -0700 (PDT) Received: from krusty1 ([192.94.170.8] helo=zippy ident=root) by krusty-motorsports.com with smtp (Exim 3.32 #1) id 15VvKS-0005Iy-00 for majordomo-users@greatcircle.com; Sun, 12 Aug 2001 09:30:56 -0400 From: Richard Welty To: majordomo-users@greatcircle.com Subject: majordomo/exim/demime trick Date: Sun, 12 Aug 2001 09:32:15 -0400 Message-ID: <1m0dntguujv6gnfqkrutast1cbou5l68qb@4ax.com> X-Mailer: Forte Agent 1.8/32.548 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk i've been taking some of the knowledge i've gained from Philip Haze's new exim book (which is wonderful) and starting to improve my exim configuration. here is a simple demime trick which i set up with my majordomo lists. normal demime setup is simply place it in a pipe in an alias file, like so: alfa: "|/tools/majordomo/demime - |/tools/majordomo/wrapper resend -C /tools/majordomo/digest.cf -l alfa -h digest.net -f owner-alfa alfa-out@digest.net" which also requires setting use_shell =3D yes in the exim pipe transport. demime is only applied where you actually include it in the pipe declaration. i have moved demime to a transport filter for my majordomo_pipe transport: majordomo_pipe: driver =3D pipe user =3D majordomo group =3D daemon return_fail_output =3D true transport_filter =3D "/tools/majordomo/demime -" and have removed it from the alias file, and gotten rid of use_shell. pros: demime is now applied to all administrative requests as well, so mime won't confuse majordomo itself cons: this is probably less efficient overall because demime is being called more, and while the shell has been eliminated, transport filters do still cause an extra exim process to be spawned. richard From majordomo-users-owner Sun Aug 12 20:08:38 2001 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-980720-1) id TAA28412; Sun, 12 Aug 2001 19:41:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: from server1.conjelco.com (conjelco.com [64.49.223.42]) by honor.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 67B3817EAF for ; Sun, 12 Aug 2001 19:41:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.1.101] (c1618067-a.ross1.pa.home.com [24.249.198.195]) (authenticated (0 bits)) by server1.conjelco.com (8.11.3/8.11.3) with ESMTP id f7D2gsV02806 for ; Sun, 12 Aug 2001 22:42:54 -0400 Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Sender: weinstoc@conjelco.com Message-Id: Date: Sun, 12 Aug 2001 22:40:51 -0400 To: majordomo-users@greatcircle.com From: Chuck Weinstock Subject: MAJORDOMO ABORT (mj_majordomo)!! Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk I've seen lots of references to this particular configuration problem in the archives and they mostly mention that it is a problem with the majordomo.cf file, but nothing points me at how to track down the problem. Here is the specific message: MAJORDOMO ABORT (mj_majordomo)!! Majordomo@conjelco.com: not replying to MAILER-DAEMON to avoid mail loop. Can anyone help me track this problem down? The various aliases seem to be set up correctly. Chuck Weinstock From majordomo-users-owner Sun Aug 12 23:29:13 2001 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-980720-1) id XAA29889; Sun, 12 Aug 2001 23:06:55 -0700 (PDT) Received: from totk.com (unknown [209.61.155.117]) by honor.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1FD2B17EB2 for ; Sun, 12 Aug 2001 23:06:49 -0700 (PDT) Received: from rompute (24-148-41-76.na.21stcentury.net [24.148.41.76]) by totk.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id BAA19925; Mon, 13 Aug 2001 01:12:33 -0500 From: "TOTK.com Sports" To: "Chuck Weinstock" , Subject: RE: MAJORDOMO ABORT (mj_majordomo)!! Date: Mon, 13 Aug 2001 01:03:50 -0500 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk Yes, please help on this. I am still suffering from this as well!! --- Ralph Wallace > -----Original Message----- > Subject: MAJORDOMO ABORT (mj_majordomo)!! > > > I've seen lots of references to this particular configuration > problem in the archives and they mostly mention that it is a problem > with the majordomo.cf file, but nothing points me at how to track > down the problem. > > Here is the specific message: > > MAJORDOMO ABORT (mj_majordomo)!! > > Majordomo@conjelco.com: not replying to MAILER-DAEMON to avoid mail loop. > > Can anyone help me track this problem down? The various aliases seem > to be set up correctly. > > Chuck Weinstock From majordomo-users-owner Sun Aug 12 23:46:33 2001 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-980720-1) id XAA29931; Sun, 12 Aug 2001 23:12:19 -0700 (PDT) Received: from sonny.org (unknown [205.217.137.8]) by honor.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A268C17EB2 for ; Sun, 12 Aug 2001 23:12:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: from netscape.com (daniel.sonny.org [205.217.137.65]) by sonny.org (8.8.8/8.8.3) with ESMTP id BAA18785; Mon, 13 Aug 2001 01:12:14 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: <3B776FBE.6E2B47C@netscape.com> Date: Mon, 13 Aug 2001 01:12:14 -0500 From: Daniel Liston Organization: iPlanet eCommerce Solutions, A Sun|Netscape Alliance X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.75 [en] (X11; U; Linux 2.2.16-3 i686) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Chuck Weinstock Cc: majordomo-users@greatcircle.com Subject: Re: MAJORDOMO ABORT (mj_majordomo)!! References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk The majordomo.cf has a list of majordomo_dont_reply aliases. These are needed, please do not change them. You need to track down the real problem of why MAILER-DAEMON is trying to talk to majordomo in the first place. Check your sendmail logs, your majordomo Log, and any cron jobs owned by root that may be sending commands to majordomo or any of your lists. If a message bounces, majordomo refuses to talk to root (the origin of the message) and you will get one of the errors listed below. Dan Liston Chuck Weinstock wrote: > > I've seen lots of references to this particular configuration > problem in the archives and they mostly mention that it is a problem > with the majordomo.cf file, but nothing points me at how to track > down the problem. > > Here is the specific message: > > MAJORDOMO ABORT (mj_majordomo)!! > > Majordomo@conjelco.com: not replying to MAILER-DAEMON to avoid mail loop. > > Can anyone help me track this problem down? The various aliases seem > to be set up correctly. > > Chuck Weinstock From majordomo-users-owner Mon Aug 13 07:55:59 2001 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-980720-1) id HAA07221; Mon, 13 Aug 2001 07:43:51 -0700 (PDT) Received: from backus.info.fundp.ac.be (backus.info.fundp.ac.be [138.48.32.107]) by honor.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A873417EB1 for ; Mon, 13 Aug 2001 07:43:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: from aramis.info.fundp.ac.be (aramis.info.fundp.ac.be [138.48.32.87]) by backus.info.fundp.ac.be (8.10.2+Sun/8.9.1) with ESMTP id f7DEhSb10456 for ; Mon, 13 Aug 2001 16:43:28 +0200 (MET DST) Message-Id: <4.3.2.7.2.20010813163510.02fa4f00@backus.info.fundp.ac.be> X-Sender: rco@backus.info.fundp.ac.be X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 4.3.2 Date: Mon, 13 Aug 2001 16:43:25 +0200 To: From: Radu Cotet Subject: HTML and moderated lists In-Reply-To: <057e01c121f6$29327a90$0200a8c0@gamma> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk Hi, I try to solve the following problem: on a moderated list (majordomo 1.94.4) a plain text message asks to have a first line like this: approved: What about a HTML one? I tried to put the same line in the mail itself and all I have is a bounce like this: From: owner-test@info.fundp.ac.be Message-Id: <200108131440.f7DEeJJ09758@backus.info.fundp.ac.be> To: rco@info.fundp.ac.be Subject: BOUNCE test@info.fundp.ac.be: Approval required: What am I doing wrong? Any help will be greatly appreciated, R. Cotet From majordomo-users-owner Mon Aug 13 10:25:58 2001 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-980720-1) id KAA08530; Mon, 13 Aug 2001 10:13:49 -0700 (PDT) Received: from SvrDom01.cmaontheweb.com (unknown [204.252.239.230]) by honor.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id CD17617EB1 for ; Mon, 13 Aug 2001 10:13:41 -0700 (PDT) To: Majordomo-Users@greatcircle.com Subject: weird error (RFC1893): 5.5.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Lotus Notes Release 5.0.7 March 21, 2001 Message-ID: From: jwesley@CMAontheweb.com Date: Mon, 13 Aug 2001 12:13:39 -0500 X-MIMETrack: Serialize by Router on SvrDom01/CMA(Release 5.0.8 |June 18, 2001) at 08/13/2001 12:13:41 PM, Serialize complete at 08/13/2001 12:13:41 PM Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="=_alternative 005E8DCB86256AA7_=" Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk This is a multipart message in MIME format. --=_alternative 005E8DCB86256AA7_= Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" My system Intel p3 450mhx:::256 ram:::IDE HDD:::3com nic RH 6.2 linux, SENDMAIL, Majordomo My Aliases file owner-cmatest: jwesley,nobody cmatest: "|/home/majordom/runtime/wrapper resend @ /home/majordom/lists/cmatest.resend" cmatest-approval: cmatest-owner cmatest-doit: :include:/home/majordom/lists/cmatest cmatest-request: "|/home/majordom/runtime/wrapper request-awnser cmatest" owner-cmatest-request: owner-cmatest ****YES I ran newaliases on the box after editing the aliases file What I am trying to do: Send to the list cmatest. I tried emailing the list from our production mail servers, and from the box itself. It sends a Delivery Failure Report to the root of the box(which is actually routed back to the production mail servers to my email account). I am new to majordomo and i do not have to much experience with sendmail and linux, but i can get around pretty good. I looked up the error and here is what i found: 5.X.X Permanent Failure A permanent failure is one which is not likely to be resolved by resending the message in the current form. Some change to the message or the destination must be made for successful delivery. X.5.X Mail Delivery Protocol Status The mail delivery protocol status codes report failures involving the message delivery protocol. These failures include the full range of problems resulting from implementation errors or an unreliable connection. Mail delivery protocol issues may be controlled by many parties including the originating system, destination system, or intermediate system administrators. X.5.0 Other or undefined protocol status Something was wrong with the protocol necessary to deliver the message to the next hop and the problem cannot be well expressed with any of the other provided detail codes. So that wasn't too helpful for me, but maybe someone else can tell me what's really wrong with my system. Thanks Jeremy Wesley Web Designer-Flasher-ASP MCP I, MCSE I, MCDBA Cherbonnier Mayer & Associates Office 225.927.9200 X334 Pager 225.660.8778 www.cmaontheweb.com --=_alternative 005E8DCB86256AA7_= Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii"
My system
Intel p3 450mhx:::256 ram:::IDE HDD:::3com nic
RH 6.2 linux, SENDMAIL, Majordomo

My Aliases file
owner-cmatest: jwesley,nobody
cmatest: "|/home/majordom/runtime/wrapper resend @ /home/majordom/lists/cmatest.resend"
cmatest-approval: cmatest-owner
cmatest-doit: :include:/home/majordom/lists/cmatest
cmatest-request: "|/home/majordom/runtime/wrapper request-awnser cmatest"
owner-cmatest-request: owner-cmatest
****YES I ran newaliases on the box after editing the aliases file
What I am trying to do:
Send to the list cmatest. I tried emailing the list from our production mail servers, and from the box itself. It sends a Delivery Failure Report to the root of the box(which is actually routed back to the production mail servers to my email account).  I am new to majordomo and i do not have to much experience with sendmail and linux, but i can get around pretty good.
I looked up the error  and here is what i found:

    5.X.X   Permanent Failure

       A permanent failure is one which is not likely to be resolved by
       resending the message in the current form.  Some change to the
       message or the destination must be made for successful delivery.
   
   X.5.X   Mail Delivery Protocol Status

          The mail delivery protocol status codes report failures
          involving the message delivery protocol.  These failures
          include the full range of problems resulting from
          implementation errors or an unreliable connection.  Mail
          delivery protocol issues may be controlled by many parties
          including the originating system, destination system, or
          intermediate system administrators.

       X.5.0   Other or undefined protocol status

          Something was wrong with the protocol necessary to deliver
          the message to the next hop and the problem cannot be well
          expressed with any of the other provided detail codes.
So that wasn't too helpful for me, but maybe someone else can tell me what's really wrong with my system.

Thanks
Jeremy Wesley
Web Designer-Flasher-ASP
MCP I, MCSE I, MCDBA
Cherbonnier Mayer & Associates
Office 225.927.9200 X334
Pager  225.660.8778
www.cmaontheweb.com --=_alternative 005E8DCB86256AA7_=-- From majordomo-users-owner Mon Aug 13 10:41:47 2001 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-980720-1) id KAA08618; Mon, 13 Aug 2001 10:24:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: from smtp4.netcommanders.net (99-186-179-208.netcommanders.net [208.179.186.99]) by honor.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with SMTP id 2F9AC17EB1 for ; Mon, 13 Aug 2001 10:24:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 14608 invoked from network); 13 Aug 2001 17:24:20 -0000 Received: from 52-186-179-208.netcommanders.net (HELO james) (208.179.186.52) by 170-186-179-208.netcommanders.net with SMTP; 13 Aug 2001 17:24:20 -0000 Message-ID: <026f01c1241c$926b6300$34bab3d0@james> From: "JT" To: , "Radu Cotet" References: <4.3.2.7.2.20010813163510.02fa4f00@backus.info.fundp.ac.be> Subject: Re: HTML and moderated lists Date: Mon, 13 Aug 2001 10:22:47 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk In an HTML message you need to embed the approval password in the header. Easy to accomplish script wise by simply adding a header to it.... MUA wise I have no idea. --JT ----- Original Message ----- From: "Radu Cotet" To: Sent: Monday, August 13, 2001 7:43 AM Subject: HTML and moderated lists Hi, I try to solve the following problem: on a moderated list (majordomo 1.94.4) a plain text message asks to have a first line like this: approved: What about a HTML one? I tried to put the same line in the mail itself and all I have is a bounce like this: From: owner-test@info.fundp.ac.be Message-Id: <200108131440.f7DEeJJ09758@backus.info.fundp.ac.be> To: rco@info.fundp.ac.be Subject: BOUNCE test@info.fundp.ac.be: Approval required: What am I doing wrong? Any help will be greatly appreciated, R. Cotet From majordomo-users-owner Mon Aug 13 12:56:01 2001 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-980720-1) id MAA09908; Mon, 13 Aug 2001 12:44:36 -0700 (PDT) Received: from SvrDom01.cmaontheweb.com (unknown [204.252.239.230]) by honor.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B6C8B17EB1 for ; Mon, 13 Aug 2001 12:44:29 -0700 (PDT) To: Majordomo-Users@greatcircle.com Subject: RE: weird error (RFC1893): 5.5.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Lotus Notes Release 5.0.7 March 21, 2001 Message-ID: From: jwesley@CMAontheweb.com Date: Mon, 13 Aug 2001 14:44:27 -0500 X-MIMETrack: Serialize by Router on SvrDom01/CMA(Release 5.0.8 |June 18, 2001) at 08/13/2001 02:44:29 PM, Serialize complete at 08/13/2001 02:44:29 PM Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="=_alternative 006C5C3C86256AA7_=" Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk This is a multipart message in MIME format. --=_alternative 006C5C3C86256AA7_= Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Since I can't just sit back and wait for someone to help/tell me whats wrong, I have been pokeing around on my box and here is what I have learn that may help someone else help me. The problem has something to do with the resend feature. If I change my aliases file to not use the resend it will send mail to the list but then i lose all the features in the confg file. But when i change it to use the resend i get the mail error. Here is wat i am using for both configurations (taken from aliases file) testlist: :include:/usr/lib/majordomo/lists/testlist testlist: "|/home/majordom/runtime/wrapper @/home/majordom/lists/testlist.resend" How can I test that resend has the write premission or that its setup correctly? also on another note, How do you get majordomo to make the listname.conf file? Jeremy Wesley Web Designer-Flasher-ASP MCP I, MCSE I, MCDBA Cherbonnier Mayer & Associates Office 225.927.9200 X334 Pager 225.660.8778 www.cmaontheweb.com ----- Forwarded by Jeremy Wesley/CMA on 08/13/2001 02:22 PM ----- Jeremy Wesley 08/13/2001 12:13 PM To: Majordomo-Users@greatcircle.com cc: Subject: weird error (RFC1893): 5.5.0 My system Intel p3 450mhx:::256 ram:::IDE HDD:::3com nic RH 6.2 linux, SENDMAIL, Majordomo My Aliases file owner-cmatest: jwesley,nobody cmatest: "|/home/majordom/runtime/wrapper resend @ /home/majordom/lists/cmatest.resend" cmatest-approval: cmatest-owner cmatest-doit: :include:/home/majordom/lists/cmatest cmatest-request: "|/home/majordom/runtime/wrapper request-awnser cmatest" owner-cmatest-request: owner-cmatest ****YES I ran newaliases on the box after editing the aliases file What I am trying to do: Send to the list cmatest. I tried emailing the list from our production mail servers, and from the box itself. It sends a Delivery Failure Report to the root of the box(which is actually routed back to the production mail servers to my email account). I am new to majordomo and i do not have to much experience with sendmail and linux, but i can get around pretty good. I looked up the error and here is what i found: 5.X.X Permanent Failure A permanent failure is one which is not likely to be resolved by resending the message in the current form. Some change to the message or the destination must be made for successful delivery. X.5.X Mail Delivery Protocol Status The mail delivery protocol status codes report failures involving the message delivery protocol. These failures include the full range of problems resulting from implementation errors or an unreliable connection. Mail delivery protocol issues may be controlled by many parties including the originating system, destination system, or intermediate system administrators. X.5.0 Other or undefined protocol status Something was wrong with the protocol necessary to deliver the message to the next hop and the problem cannot be well expressed with any of the other provided detail codes. So that wasn't too helpful for me, but maybe someone else can tell me what's really wrong with my system. Thanks Jeremy Wesley Web Designer-Flasher-ASP MCP I, MCSE I, MCDBA Cherbonnier Mayer & Associates Office 225.927.9200 X334 Pager 225.660.8778 www.cmaontheweb.com --=_alternative 006C5C3C86256AA7_= Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii"
Since I can't just sit back and wait for someone to help/tell me whats wrong, I have been pokeing around on my box and here is what I have learn that may help someone else help me.
The problem has something to do with the resend feature.  If I change my aliases file to not use the resend it will send mail to the list but then i lose all the features in the confg file. But when i change it to use the resend i get the mail error.
Here is wat i am using for both configurations (taken from aliases file)
testlist:  :include:/usr/lib/majordomo/lists/testlist
testlist:  "|/home/majordom/runtime/wrapper @/home/majordom/lists/testlist.resend"

How can I test that resend has the write premission or that its setup correctly?
also on another note, How do you get majordomo to make the listname.conf file?

Jeremy Wesley
Web Designer-Flasher-ASP
MCP I, MCSE I, MCDBA
Cherbonnier Mayer & Associates
Office 225.927.9200 X334
Pager  225.660.8778
www.cmaontheweb.com
----- Forwarded by Jeremy Wesley/CMA on 08/13/2001 02:22 PM -----
Jeremy Wesley

08/13/2001 12:13 PM

       
        To:        Majordomo-Users@greatcircle.com
        cc:        
        Subject:        weird error (RFC1893): 5.5.0


My system
Intel p3 450mhx:::256 ram:::IDE HDD:::3com nic
RH 6.2 linux, SENDMAIL, Majordomo

My Aliases file
owner-cmatest: jwesley,nobody
cmatest: "|/home/majordom/runtime/wrapper resend @ /home/majordom/lists/cmatest.resend"
cmatest-approval: cmatest-owner
cmatest-doit: :include:/home/majordom/lists/cmatest
cmatest-request: "|/home/majordom/runtime/wrapper request-awnser cmatest"
owner-cmatest-request: owner-cmatest
****YES I ran newaliases on the box after editing the aliases file
What I am trying to do:
Send to the list cmatest. I tried emailing the list from our production mail servers, and from the box itself. It sends a Delivery Failure Report to the root of the box(which is actually routed back to the production mail servers to my email account).  I am new to majordomo and i do not have to much experience with sendmail and linux, but i can get around pretty good.
I looked up the error  and here is what i found:

    5.X.X   Permanent Failure

       A permanent failure is one which is not likely to be resolved by
       resending the message in the current form.  Some change to the
       message or the destination must be made for successful delivery.
   
   X.5.X   Mail Delivery Protocol Status

          The mail delivery protocol status codes report failures
          involving the message delivery protocol.  These failures
          include the full range of problems resulting from
          implementation errors or an unreliable connection.  Mail
          delivery protocol issues may be controlled by many parties
          including the originating system, destination system, or
          intermediate system administrators.

       X.5.0   Other or undefined protocol status

          Something was wrong with the protocol necessary to deliver
          the message to the next hop and the problem cannot be well
          expressed with any of the other provided detail codes.
So that wasn't too helpful for me, but maybe someone else can tell me what's really wrong with my system.

Thanks
Jeremy Wesley
Web Designer-Flasher-ASP
MCP I, MCSE I, MCDBA
Cherbonnier Mayer & Associates
Office 225.927.9200 X334
Pager  225.660.8778
www.cmaontheweb.com
--=_alternative 006C5C3C86256AA7_=-- From majordomo-users-owner Tue Aug 14 00:08:41 2001 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-980720-1) id XAA15722; Mon, 13 Aug 2001 23:46:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: from netscape.com (c3po.netscape.com [205.217.237.46]) by honor.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B306117EB2 for ; Mon, 13 Aug 2001 23:45:58 -0700 (PDT) Received: from judge.mcom.com (judge.mcom.com [205.217.237.53]) by netscape.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with ESMTP id f7E6jt802226 for ; Mon, 13 Aug 2001 23:45:55 -0700 (PDT) Received: from netscape.com ([205.217.240.43]) by judge.mcom.com (Netscape Messaging Server 4.15) with ESMTP id GI1PGK01.LJP; Mon, 13 Aug 2001 23:45:56 -0700 Message-ID: <3B78C902.EC405743@netscape.com> Date: Tue, 14 Aug 2001 01:45:22 -0500 From: dliston@netscape.com (Dan Liston) Organization: iPlanet eCommerce Solutions, A Sun-Netscape Alliance X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.78 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Radu Cotet Cc: majordomo-users@GreatCircle.COM Subject: Re: HTML and moderated lists References: <4.3.2.7.2.20010813163510.02fa4f00@backus.info.fundp.ac.be> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk Majordomo does not understand MIME, which is what an HTML message is. Commands to majordomo MUST be in PLAIN TEXT format. Majordomo will distribute HTML/MIME through a list, but can not parse a MIME message to itself. You need to use demime or striphtml tools to purify the messages before they get to majordomo, or do the simple thing and send the message in plain text to begin with. Dan Liston Radu Cotet wrote: > > Hi, > I try to solve the following problem: on a moderated list (majordomo > 1.94.4) a plain text message asks to have a first line like this: > > approved: > > What about a HTML one? I tried to put the same line in the mail itself and > all I have is a bounce like this: > > From: owner-test@info.fundp.ac.be > Message-Id: <200108131440.f7DEeJJ09758@backus.info.fundp.ac.be> > To: rco@info.fundp.ac.be > Subject: BOUNCE test@info.fundp.ac.be: Approval required: > > What am I doing wrong? > > Any help will be greatly appreciated, > > R. Cotet From majordomo-users-owner Tue Aug 14 04:20:37 2001 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-980720-1) id CAA18688; Tue, 14 Aug 2001 02:40:55 -0700 (PDT) Received: from reserve.guest-tek.com (unknown [12.104.66.2]) by honor.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id ECCF517EB2 for ; Tue, 14 Aug 2001 02:40:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: from netscape.com ([192.168.1.100]) by reserve.guest-tek.com (8.9.3/8.8.7) with ESMTP id CAA21234; Tue, 14 Aug 2001 02:40:41 -0700 Message-ID: <3B78CFF4.D3A0AC5A@netscape.com> Date: Tue, 14 Aug 2001 02:15:00 -0500 From: Daniel Liston Organization: iPlanet eCommerce Solutions, A Sun-Netscape Alliance X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.78 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: jwesley@CMAontheweb.com Cc: Majordomo-Users@GreatCircle.COM Subject: Re: weird error (RFC1893): 5.5.0 References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk Two things, what "version" of sendmail are your running? Newer versions, especially with linux, utilize smrsh. If yours does, you need to make sure you have a link to "wrapper" in the smrsh directory. This directory is usually /etc/smrsh (in linux). Majordomo will make a default listname.conf file just by the existance of a listname (subscriber) file in your lists directory. Hint: make sure no part of the directory tree leading to listname.resend is group or world writable. Dan Liston jwesley@CMAontheweb.com wrote: > > Since I can't just sit back and wait for someone to help/tell me whats wrong, I have been pokeing around on my box and here is what I have learn that may help someone else help me. > The problem has something to do with the resend feature. If I change my aliases file to not use the resend it will send mail to the list but then i lose all the features in the confg file. But when i change it to use the resend i get the mail error. > Here is wat i am using for both configurations (taken from aliases file) > testlist: :include:/usr/lib/majordomo/lists/testlist > testlist: "|/home/majordom/runtime/wrapper @/home/majordom/lists/testlist.resend" > > How can I test that resend has the write premission or that its setup correctly? > also on another note, How do you get majordomo to make the listname.conf file? > > Jeremy Wesley > Web Designer-Flasher-ASP > MCP I, MCSE I, MCDBA > Cherbonnier Mayer & Associates > Office 225.927.9200 X334 > Pager 225.660.8778 > www.cmaontheweb.com > ----- Forwarded by Jeremy Wesley/CMA on 08/13/2001 02:22 PM ----- > Jeremy Wesley ties > > 08/13/2001 12:13 PM > ority X-± > > My system > Intel p3 450mhx:::256 ram:::IDE HDD:::3com nic > RH 6.2 linux, SENDMAIL, Majordomo > > My Aliases file > owner-cmatest: jwesley,nobody > cmatest: "|/home/majordom/runtime/wrapper resend @ /home/majordom/lists/cmatest.resend" > cmatest-approval: cmatest-owner > cmatest-doit: :include:/home/majordom/lists/cmatest > cmatest-request: "|/home/majordom/runtime/wrapper request-awnser cmatest" > owner-cmatest-request: owner-cmatest > ****YES I ran newaliases on the box after editing the aliases file > What I am trying to do: > Send to the list cmatest. I tried emailing the list from our production mail servers, and from the box itself. It sends a Delivery Failure Report to the root of the box(which is actually routed back to the production mail servers to my email account). I am new to majordomo and i do not have to much experience with sendmail and linux, but i can get around pretty good. > I looked up the error and here is what i found: > > 5.X.X Permanent Failure > > A permanent failure is one which is not likely to be resolved by > resending the message in the current form. Some change to the > message or the destination must be made for successful delivery. > > X.5.X Mail Delivery Protocol Status > > The mail delivery protocol status codes report failures > involving the message delivery protocol. These failures > include the full range of problems resulting from > implementation errors or an unreliable connection. Mail > delivery protocol issues may be controlled by many parties > including the originating system, destination system, or > intermediate system administrators. > > X.5.0 Other or undefined protocol status > > Something was wrong with the protocol necessary to deliver > the message to the next hop and the problem cannot be well > expressed with any of the other provided detail codes. > > So that wasn't too helpful for me, but maybe someone else can tell me what's really wrong with my system. > > Thanks > Jeremy Wesley > Web Designer-Flasher-ASP > MCP I, MCSE I, MCDBA > Cherbonnier Mayer & Associates > Office 225.927.9200 X334 > Pager 225.660.8778 > www.cmaontheweb.com From majordomo-users-owner Tue Aug 14 05:58:26 2001 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-980720-1) id FAA21909; Tue, 14 Aug 2001 05:27:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail.bestdist.com (mail.bestdist.com [216.77.43.67]) by honor.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8821C17EB2 for ; Tue, 14 Aug 2001 05:26:50 -0700 (PDT) Received: from SEAN (proxy [216.77.43.66]) by mail.bestdist.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id IAA21867; Tue, 14 Aug 2001 08:26:47 -0400 From: "Sean Porterfield" To: , Subject: RE: weird error (RFC1893): 5.5.0 Date: Tue, 14 Aug 2001 08:27:03 -0400 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0006_01C1249A.E55AA110" X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 In-Reply-To: Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0006_01C1249A.E55AA110 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit It would be easier for someone to help if you include the actual message you received instead of what the error code means. Also the versions of sendmail and majordomo you're using, and whether you installed via rpm or compiling source. Later it might be important to know what version of perl you have and what uid/gid majordomo is using. Then of course if it's a permission problem, we'd have to know owner/group and permissions for all directories leading to majordomo files and permissions of all majordomo files. Are you using smrsh? Did you ln -s /pathtomajordomo/wrapper /pathtosmrsh/wrapper ? -----Original Message----- From: jwesley@CMAontheweb.com Send to the list cmatest. I tried emailing the list from our production mail servers, and from the box itself. It sends a Delivery Failure Report to the root of the box(which is actually routed back to the production mail servers to my email account). I am new to majordomo and i do not have to much experience with sendmail and linux, but i can get around pretty good. ------=_NextPart_000_0006_01C1249A.E55AA110 Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
It=20 would be easier for someone to help if you include the actual message = you=20 received instead of what the error code means.  Also the versions = of=20 sendmail and majordomo you're using, and whether you installed via rpm = or=20 compiling source.  Later it might be important to know what version = of perl=20 you have and what uid/gid majordomo is using.  Then of course if = it's a=20 permission problem, we'd have to know owner/group and permissions for = all=20 directories leading to majordomo files and permissions of all majordomo=20 files.
 
Are=20 you using smrsh?  Did you ln -s /pathtomajordomo/wrapper=20 /pathtosmrsh/wrapper ?
-----Original Message-----
From: jwesley@CMAontheweb.com
 
 Send to the list = cmatest. I tried=20 emailing the list from our production mail servers, and from the box = itself.=20 It sends a Delivery Failure Report to the root of the box(which is = actually=20 routed back to the production mail servers to my email account). =  I am=20 new to majordomo and i do not have to much experience with sendmail = and linux,=20 but i can get around pretty good.=20
------=_NextPart_000_0006_01C1249A.E55AA110-- From majordomo-users-owner Tue Aug 14 06:35:41 2001 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-980720-1) id GAA22213; Tue, 14 Aug 2001 06:05:43 -0700 (PDT) Received: from paul.national.anglican.ca (H206.C54.tor.velocet.net [204.138.54.206]) by honor.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3136F17EB2 for ; Tue, 14 Aug 2001 06:05:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: from national.anglican.ca (IDENT:kapn@kapn.national.anglican.ca [192.168.1.39]) by paul.national.anglican.ca (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA32120; Tue, 14 Aug 2001 09:05:26 -0400 Message-ID: <3B792215.74063B96@national.anglican.ca> Date: Tue, 14 Aug 2001 09:05:25 -0400 From: Keith Nunn X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.75 [en] (X11; U; Linux 2.2.17-21mdk i686) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Majordomo-Users@GreatCircle.COM Subject: setting To: to the recipient rather than the list Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk I couldn't find anything about this in the archive, but then it's apretty tough thing to search email messages for since it'll pop up in every one. 8-) I've had a request from a user to have the announcement list I'm running put the recipient address instead of the list address in the To: field. I had a look in majordomo.cf which seemed to set up a basic sendmail command and provide a $to variable (that I'm assuming contains the recipient address). I plugged it into the command line, but didn't get any change in behaviour. I guess $to actually contains the To: field from the posting. I have two questions: Is there any reason I shouldn't be trying to do this in the first place? For the user it would make it easier for them to avoid spam by refusing anything not directly addressed to them. How the heck do I do it? I'm using majordomo 1.94.4, sendmail 8.11.4, perl 5.005_03 on FreeBSD v4.? (did an update and make world a couple of months ago). Thanks for any help you can offer. kapn -- Keith Nunn, Webmanager, Anglican Church of Canada knunn@national.anglican.ca * 416-924-9199 x340 www.anglican.ca * www.anglicanjournal.com From majordomo-users-owner Tue Aug 14 07:20:43 2001 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-980720-1) id GAA22625; Tue, 14 Aug 2001 06:57:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: from spn19c0.fiu.edu (spn19a0.fiu.edu [131.94.68.191]) by honor.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7348D17EB5 for ; Tue, 14 Aug 2001 06:57:02 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [10.10.20.19] by spn19c0.fiu.edu (InterMail vK.4.03.04.01 201-232-130-101 license d3ed443c752af15f51469a1cfbdca8d5) with SMTP id <20010814135338.HIS24646.spn19c0@[10.10.20.19]>; Tue, 14 Aug 2001 09:53:38 -0400 From: Anthony Gonzalez Organization: IRM Enterprise Systems To: majordomo-users@greatcircle.com Cc: hou@fiu.edu, mariam@fiu.edu Subject: Digest question Date: Tue, 14 Aug 2001 9:53:38 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <20010814135338.HIS24646.spn19c0@[10.10.20.19]> Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk Good morning! I'm trying to setup a Majordomo mailing list digest, and I'm using instructions that I found in http://www.yossman.net/canweb/dev/majordigest.html. In the instructions, the author mentions 'test-outgoing', 'owner-test-outgoing', 'test-digest-outgoing' and 'owner-test-digest-outgoing'. Are these entries supposed to be entered in our Majordomo alias file? See our entries for our digest list and regular list below. oes2-test-digest: "|/usr/local/majordomo/wrapper resend -s -l oes2-test-digest -f oes2-test-digest-owner -h fiu.edu oes2-test-digest-list" oes2-test-digest-list: :include:/usr/local/majordomo/lists/oes2-test-digest owner-oes2-test-digest: mariam@fiu.edu oes2-test-digest-owner: owner-oes2-test-digest oes2-test-digest-request: "|/usr/local/majordomo/wrapper majordomo -l oes2-test-digest" oes2-test-digest-approval: owner-oes2-test-digest oes2-test: "|/usr/local/majordomo/wrapper resend -s -l oes2-test -f oes2-test-owner -h fiu.edu oes2-test-list" oes2-test-list: :include:/usr/local/majordomo/lists/oes2-test owner-oes2-test: mariam@fiu.edu oes2-test-owner: owner-oes2-test oes2-test-request: "|/usr/local/majordomo/wrapper majordomo -l oes2-test" oes2-test-approval: owner-oes2-test From majordomo-users-owner Tue Aug 14 11:34:27 2001 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-980720-1) id LAA25240; Tue, 14 Aug 2001 11:05:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: from carroll1.cc.edu (carroll1.cc.edu [140.104.1.1]) by honor.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C19F917EBD for ; Tue, 14 Aug 2001 11:04:54 -0700 (PDT) Received: from carroll1.cc.edu (carroll1.cc.edu [140.104.1.1]) by carroll1.cc.edu (8.8.6 (PHNE_17190)/8.8.6) with SMTP id MAA17275; Tue, 14 Aug 2001 12:55:29 -0500 (CDT) Date: Tue, 14 Aug 2001 12:55:29 -0500 (CDT) From: Donald Elliott To: Daniel Liston Cc: jwesley@CMAontheweb.com, Majordomo-Users@GreatCircle.COM Subject: Re: weird error (RFC1893): 5.5.0 In-Reply-To: <3B78CFF4.D3A0AC5A@netscape.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk i had seen the exact same problem jwesley was describing, and after fixing my aliases file (ugh!) i narrowed it down to the owner and groupID for the lists directory. after i changed it to mail:mail it seems to work. you might look at that. good luck. Donald Elliott delliott@carroll1.cc.edu From majordomo-users-owner Wed Aug 15 06:55:36 2001 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-980720-1) id GAA08793; Wed, 15 Aug 2001 06:33:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: from web11604.mail.yahoo.com (web11604.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.172.56]) by honor.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with SMTP id 6533B17EC5 for ; Wed, 15 Aug 2001 06:33:49 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <20010815133348.10322.qmail@web11604.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [216.194.16.5] by web11604.mail.yahoo.com; Wed, 15 Aug 2001 06:33:48 PDT Date: Wed, 15 Aug 2001 06:33:48 -0700 (PDT) From: Prasit P Subject: duplicate email sent... To: Majordomo-Users@GreatCircle.COM In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk I'm damn upset with Majordomo. I configured and have been testing the system for 2 weeks without any problems. When I started to send mail to my real mailing list with 10,000 of email addresses. It sent out 10 copies to my subscribers and they're really mad at my organization... what's happen to this application? I use RedHat 6.2, sendmail 8.12, and the latest Majordomo, which shouldn't be any problems with whatsoever listed in the FAQs. I'm damn maddddd... everybody, my executive manager are blaming me now... Well, I decided to write my own mailing list script which shouldn't take me more than 2 days.... ===== GROWTH - The rung of a ladder was never meant to rest upon, but only to hold your foot long enough to put the other foot higher. -anonymous __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Make international calls for as low as $.04/minute with Yahoo! Messenger http://phonecard.yahoo.com/ From majordomo-users-owner Wed Aug 15 10:41:31 2001 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-980720-1) id KAA11178; Wed, 15 Aug 2001 10:22:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nugget.corecom.net (nugget.corecom.net [216.47.3.21]) by honor.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C7EA717EB0 for ; Wed, 15 Aug 2001 10:22:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: from poppy.ahfc.state.ak.us (poppy.ahfc.state.ak.us [205.159.28.20]) by nugget.corecom.net (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f7FHRCB28878 for ; Wed, 15 Aug 2001 09:27:12 -0800 (AKDT) Message-ID: <0eea4db3b20c1d6db384b100ecadd6393b7aaf7f@ahfc.state.ak.us> Date: Wed, 15 Aug 2001 09:22:51 -0800 From: Marc Grober MIME-Version: 1.0 To: majordomo-users@greatcircle.com Subject: aix sendmail issues Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk I have done a pretty vanilla install of majordomo 1.94.5 on aix 4.3.3 Mail to majordomo and mail to list-request work fine but.......... Sendmail on aix gets heartburn if it finds group writable directories. When I added the necessary aliases in /etc/aliases sendmail started, croaking because lists is group writable.: ----- The following addresses had permanent fatal errors ----- :include:/usr/local/majordomo-1.94.5/lists/test (expanded from: ) --- The transcript of the session follows --- 550 :include:/usr/local/majordomo-1.94.5/lists/test... Cannot open /usr/local/majordomo-1.94.5/lists/test: Group writable directory Message delivered to mailing list 554 ... aliasing/forwarding loop broken If I change lists so that it is not group writable, then I get an error that the file can't be accessed. ----- The following addresses had permanent fatal errors ----- :include:/usr/local/majordomo-1.94.5/lists/test (expanded from: ) --- The transcript of the session follows --- 550 :include:/usr/local/majordomo-1.94.5/lists/test... Cannot open /usr/local/majordomo-1.94.5/lists/test: The file access permissions do not allow the specified action. Message delivered to mailing list 554 ... aliasing/forwarding loop broken the files passed the config-test test and are set as: # ls -al total 152 drwxrwx--- 2 majordo majordo 512 Aug 14 15:51 . drwxr-x--x 6 majordo majordo 1024 Aug 14 13:45 .. -rw-r--r-- 1 majordo majordo 25 Aug 15 08:40 test -rw-rw---- 1 majordo majordo 16482 Aug 09 13:20 test.config -rw-r--r-- 1 majordo majordo 73 Aug 09 13:10 test.info # /etc/aliases........ majordomo: "|/usr/local/majordomo/wrapper majordomo" owner-majordomo: webmaster majordomo-owner: webmaster test: :include:/usr/local/majordomo-1.94.5/lists/test owner-test: webmaster test-request: "|/usr/local/majordomo-1.94.5/wrapper request-answer test" test-approval: webmaster If I run an :include: from a users directory there is no problem, but when I copy the perms in use there to the lists dircetories it still croaks. I understand I can hobble sendmail, but shouldn't there be a more secure solution? From majordomo-users-owner Wed Aug 15 12:56:39 2001 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-980720-1) id MAA12823; Wed, 15 Aug 2001 12:39:41 -0700 (PDT) Received: from polhemus04.polhemus.cc (vsat-148-71-110-210.ssa4.mcl.starband.net [148.71.110.210]) by honor.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1008717ECA for ; Wed, 15 Aug 2001 12:39:30 -0700 (PDT) Received: from polhemus02 (polhemus01 [192.168.1.1]) by polhemus04.polhemus.cc (8.9.3/8.8.7) with SMTP id TAA10295; Wed, 15 Aug 2001 19:34:49 GMT From: "Bill Polhemus" To: "Prasit P" , Subject: RE: duplicate email sent... Date: Wed, 15 Aug 2001 14:34:49 -0500 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.3018.1300 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <20010815133348.10322.qmail@web11604.mail.yahoo.com> Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk Just a couple of observations: 1. Whenever a new system goes online, you have to cross your fingers. The chances that it will go up flawlessly, no glitches whatsoever, is remote. In fact the only time that has EVER happened to me was the first time I installed Linux; that installation went right the first time, and I was simply dumbfounded. Fat chance that ever happening again in my lifetime. 2. It is unwise to blame Majordomo. Too many people have gotten it working without a hitch, but few have done so without doing some work on it. That's why this list exists, to help ease that process. Maybe you're right, you CAN write a bunch of scripts to do the same thing (mostly that's what Mj is, a "bunch of scripts") but I simply think it is a bit hasty to decide, because you've had some glitches (resulting perhaps--and please don't take this amiss, I merely point out the possibility--from insufficient testing before you unleashed the new set-up on a list of ten thousand folks) that the system is worthless, and write us just to tell us so. A couple of things to consider, anyway. William L. Polhemus, Jr., P.E. Polhemus Engineering Company Katy, Texas > -----Original Message----- > From: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM > [mailto:majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM]On Behalf Of Prasit P > Sent: Wednesday, August 15, 2001 8:34 AM > To: Majordomo-Users@GreatCircle.COM > Subject: duplicate email sent... > > > I'm damn upset with Majordomo. I configured and have been > testing the system for 2 weeks without any problems. From majordomo-users-owner Wed Aug 15 20:41:43 2001 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-980720-1) id UAA17647; Wed, 15 Aug 2001 20:29:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: from reserve.guest-tek.com (unknown [12.104.66.2]) by honor.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 534D617EC3 for ; Wed, 15 Aug 2001 20:29:37 -0700 (PDT) Received: from netscape.com ([192.168.1.100]) by reserve.guest-tek.com (8.9.3/8.8.7) with ESMTP id UAA01176; Wed, 15 Aug 2001 20:29:30 -0700 Message-ID: <3B7B3DFD.CA0C5BEE@netscape.com> Date: Wed, 15 Aug 2001 22:29:01 -0500 From: Daniel Liston Organization: iPlanet E-Commerce Solutions, A Sun Netscape Alliance X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.78 [en] (X11; U; Linux 2.4.2-2 i686) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: jwesley@CMAontheweb.com Cc: Majordomo-Users@GreatCircle.COM Subject: Re: weird error (RFC1893): 5.5.0 References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk Maybe it is because I am on a hotel provided internet connection, but the 5.5.0 error is probably related more to your network configuration than it is the sendmail or majordomo configuration. Do this; telnet svrdom01.cmaontheweb.com 25 and you should see something like this; Trying 204.252.239.230... Connected to 204.252.239.230. Escape character is '^]'. 220 reserve.guest-tek.com ESMTP Sendmail 8.9.3/8.8.7; Wed, 15 Aug 2001 20:21:36 -0700 The line above will reveal the version number of your sendmail. I do not know if I connected to a proxy or to your mail server from the information above. The guest-tek domain is part of the hotel service, so I think I got a proxy here. To get out of the connection type "quit" without the quotes. Now, about DNS. I look up nameservers for your domain and only get one name/address returned. You are required to have 2 nameservers for your domain. When I do a look up of MX records for your domain, I get two names that themselves do not resolve in DNS. THAT is probably what your 5.5.0 error is about. Dan Liston jwesley@CMAontheweb.com wrote: > > Version of send mail = 8 ( I think, I am not a linux guru so i am not sure how to tell) > Version of Majordomo =1.94.5 > I made sure the link was there, is was not but now it is. > and yes i did this >>>>ln -s /pathtomajordomo/wrapper /pathtosmrsh/wrapper > > I didnt understand the comment made about. "i narrowed it down to the owner and groupID for the > lists directory. after i changed it to mail:mail it seems to work." ok i understand the IDs but what exactly is he suggesting? > I have installed it several times on several clean machines one with a rpm (1.94.4) and the last time I complied it my self. and i still get the same error. > > And the error I get is (RFC1893): 5.5.0 > I get this when it try to send mail to the list when the server is setup to use the resend. > Thanks for your help so far. > > > Daniel Liston > > 08/14/2001 02:15 AM > > > Two things, what "version" of sendmail are your running? Newer versions, especially with linux, utilize smrsh. > If yours does, you need to make sure you have a link to "wrapper" in the smrsh directory. This directory is usually /etc/smrsh (in linux). > > Majordomo will make a default listname.conf file just by the existance of a listname (subscriber) file in your lists directory. > > Hint: make sure no part of the directory tree leading to listname.resend is group or world writable. > > Dan Liston > > jwesley@CMAontheweb.com wrote: > > > > Since I can't just sit back and wait for someone to help/tell me whats wrong, I have been pokeing around on my box and here is what I have learn that may help someone else help me. > > The problem has something to do with the resend feature. If I change my aliases file to not use the resend it will send mail to the list but then i lose all the features in the confg file. But when i change it to use the resend i get the mail error. > > Here is wat i am using for both configurations (taken from aliases file) > > testlist: :include:/usr/lib/majordomo/lists/testlist > > testlist: "|/home/majordom/runtime/wrapper @/home/majordom/lists/testlist.resend" > > > > How can I test that resend has the write premission or that its setup correctly? > > also on another note, How do you get majordomo to make the listname.conf file? > > > > ----- Forwarded by Jeremy Wesley/CMA on 08/13/2001 02:22 PM ----- > > Jeremy Wesley ties > > > > 08/13/2001 12:13 PM > > ority X-± > > > > My system > > Intel p3 450mhx:::256 ram:::IDE HDD:::3com nic > > RH 6.2 linux, SENDMAIL, Majordomo From majordomo-users-owner Thu Aug 16 01:26:40 2001 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-980720-1) id AAA20107; Thu, 16 Aug 2001 00:54:58 -0700 (PDT) Received: from server001.cybrmall.net (unknown [63.74.15.87]) by honor.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2B54217EC3 for ; Thu, 16 Aug 2001 00:54:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: from danwrkstn1 (woolman-pc.cybrmall.net [63.74.15.254] (may be forged)) by server001.cybrmall.net (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id AAA28071 for ; Thu, 16 Aug 2001 00:54:43 -0700 From: "Dan Woolman" To: Subject: I could use some help!:) Wrapper not avaialble Date: Thu, 16 Aug 2001 00:56:05 -0700 Message-ID: <001c01c12628$e6f3f6e0$fe0f4a3f@danwrkstn1> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.2627 Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 In-Reply-To: <3B7B3DFD.CA0C5BEE@netscape.com> Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk I just brought up a new Linux 7.1 system, and after installing majordomo 1.94.5 I have received the following error: ----- Transcript of session follows ----- smrsh: wrapper not available for sendmail programs 554 5.0.0 "|/usr/local/majordomo/wrapper majordomo"... Service unavailable I added a symbolic link at /etc/smrsh (ln -s /usr/local/wrapper.sh wrapper.sh) but the same error is reported. Could someone please point the professor in the right direction? Thanks in advance, Dan Woolman, PhD -- Miva Premier Hosting Partner Dan Woolman [mailto:dan@cybrhost.com] http://cybrhost.com - High Speed Ecommerce Hosting -----Original Message----- From: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM [mailto:majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM] On Behalf Of Daniel Liston Sent: Wednesday, August 15, 2001 8:29 PM To: jwesley@CMAontheweb.com Cc: Majordomo-Users@GreatCircle.COM Subject: Re: weird error (RFC1893): 5.5.0 Maybe it is because I am on a hotel provided internet connection, but the 5.5.0 error is probably related more to your network configuration than it is the sendmail or majordomo configuration. Do this; telnet svrdom01.cmaontheweb.com 25 and you should see something like this; Trying 204.252.239.230... Connected to 204.252.239.230. Escape character is '^]'. 220 reserve.guest-tek.com ESMTP Sendmail 8.9.3/8.8.7; Wed, 15 Aug 2001 20:21:36 -0700 The line above will reveal the version number of your sendmail. I do not know if I connected to a proxy or to your mail server from the information above. The guest-tek domain is part of the hotel service, so I think I got a proxy here. To get out of the connection type "quit" without the quotes. Now, about DNS. I look up nameservers for your domain and only get one name/address returned. You are required to have 2 nameservers for your domain. When I do a look up of MX records for your domain, I get two names that themselves do not resolve in DNS. THAT is probably what your 5.5.0 error is about. Dan Liston jwesley@CMAontheweb.com wrote: >=20 > Version of send mail =3D 8 ( I think, I am not a linux guru so i am = not=20 > sure how to tell) Version of Majordomo =3D1.94.5 I made sure the link=20 > was there, is was not but now it is. and yes i did this >>>>ln -s=20 > /pathtomajordomo/wrapper /pathtosmrsh/wrapper >=20 > I didnt understand the comment made about. "i narrowed it down to the=20 > owner and groupID for the lists directory. after i changed it to=20 > mail:mail it seems to work." ok i understand the IDs but what exactly > is he suggesting? I have installed it several times on several clean=20 > machines one with a rpm (1.94.4) and the last time I complied it my=20 > self. and i still get the same error. >=20 > And the error I get is (RFC1893): 5.5.0 > I get this when it try to send mail to the list when the server is=20 > setup to use the resend. Thanks for your help so far. >=20 >=20 > Daniel Liston > > 08/14/2001 02:15 AM > >=20 > Two things, what "version" of sendmail are your running? Newer=20 > versions, especially with linux, utilize smrsh. If yours does, you=20 > need to make sure you have a link to "wrapper" in the smrsh directory. > This directory is usually /etc/smrsh (in linux). >=20 > Majordomo will make a default listname.conf file just by the existance > of a listname (subscriber) file in your lists directory. >=20 > Hint: make sure no part of the directory tree leading to=20 > listname.resend is group or world writable. >=20 > Dan Liston >=20 > jwesley@CMAontheweb.com wrote: > > > > Since I can't just sit back and wait for someone to help/tell me=20 > > whats wrong, I have been pokeing around on my box and here is what I > > have learn that may help someone else help me. The problem has=20 > > something to do with the resend feature. If I change my aliases file to not use the resend it will send mail to the list but then i lose all the features in the confg file. But when i change it to use the resend i get the mail error. Here is wat i am using for both configurations (taken from aliases file) > > testlist: :include:/usr/lib/majordomo/lists/testlist > > testlist: "|/home/majordom/runtime/wrapper @/home/majordom/lists/testlist.resend" > > > > How can I test that resend has the write premission or that its=20 > > setup correctly? also on another note, How do you get majordomo to=20 > > make the listname.conf file? > > > > ----- Forwarded by Jeremy Wesley/CMA on 08/13/2001 02:22 PM ----- > > Jeremy Wesley ties > > > > 08/13/2001 12:13 PM > > > > ority X-=B1 > > > > My system > > Intel p3 450mhx:::256 ram:::IDE HDD:::3com nic > > RH 6.2 linux, SENDMAIL, Majordomo From majordomo-users-owner Thu Aug 16 08:55:34 2001 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-980720-1) id IAA27771; Thu, 16 Aug 2001 08:33:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail.brunata-huerth.de (mail.brunata-huerth.de [195.14.224.179]) by honor.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E53AB17ECB for ; Thu, 16 Aug 2001 08:33:15 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from uucp@localhost) by mail.brunata-huerth.de (8.9.3/8.9.3/SuSE Linux 8.9.3-0.1) id RAA08148; Thu, 16 Aug 2001 17:33:05 +0200 Received: from r132099-1.brunata-huerth.de(172.18.133.1), claiming to be "r1320991" via SMTP by mail.brunata-huerth.de, id smtpdv8egFr; Thu Aug 16 17:32:45 2001 From: "Georg Zumstrull" To: "Prasit P" , Subject: RE: duplicate email sent... Date: Thu, 16 Aug 2001 17:29:56 +0200 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) In-Reply-To: <20010815133348.10322.qmail@web11604.mail.yahoo.com> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 Importance: Normal Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk Maybe your own new script will have the same "bug" if it is based on sendmail. As far as I remember this problem has been discussed several times on this list. It is because sendmail is not ready with delivery before the next queue run. There are several options how to avoid this problem: - Sort the list for quicker delivery - Run the queue less often - Use an other program for delivery like bulkmailer Hope I didn't remember wrong things. Georg Zumstrull > -----Original Message----- > From: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM > [mailto:majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM]On Behalf Of Prasit P > Sent: Wednesday, August 15, 2001 3:34 PM > To: Majordomo-Users@GreatCircle.COM > Subject: duplicate email sent... > > > I'm damn upset with Majordomo. I configured and have been > testing the system for 2 weeks without any problems. > > When I started to send mail to my real mailing list with > 10,000 of email addresses. It sent out 10 copies to my > subscribers and they're really mad at my organization... > > what's happen to this application? I use RedHat 6.2, > sendmail 8.12, and the latest Majordomo, which shouldn't be > any problems with whatsoever listed in the FAQs. > > > I'm damn maddddd... everybody, my executive manager are > blaming me now... > > Well, I decided to write my own mailing list script which > shouldn't take me more than 2 days.... > > > > > > > ===== > GROWTH - The rung of a ladder was never meant to rest upon, > but only to hold your foot long enough to put the > other foot higher. > > -anonymous > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Make international calls for as low as $.04/minute with Yahoo! Messenger > http://phonecard.yahoo.com/ From majordomo-users-owner Thu Aug 16 11:10:31 2001 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-980720-1) id KAA29325; Thu, 16 Aug 2001 10:50:51 -0700 (PDT) Received: from welles.library.northwestern.edu (welles.library.nwu.edu [129.105.213.70]) by honor.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4B4A817ECB for ; Thu, 16 Aug 2001 10:50:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from mailnull@localhost) by welles.library.northwestern.edu (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) id MAA19338 for ; Thu, 16 Aug 2001 12:47:34 -0500 (CDT) Received: from danderson.northwestern.edu (dhcp203123.library.nwu.edu [129.105.203.123]) by welles.library.northwestern.edu via smap (V2.0) id xma019281; Thu, 16 Aug 01 12:46:53 -0500 Message-Id: <4.3.2.7.2.20010816124620.04f4c330@welles.library.northwestern.edu> X-Sender: dca@welles.library.northwestern.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 4.3.2 Date: Thu, 16 Aug 2001 12:49:31 -0500 To: From: Dave Anderson Subject: reserved words Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk I'm very new to this group. My fear is that this has already been discussed. With our implementation, one cannot include various words in the text of a message. The most notable of these is subscr1be, and here I replaced the l with a 1. Is there a solution for this? Thanks in advance. Dave Anderson Software Engineer Library Management Systems Northwestern University Library Voice: (847)491-8305 Fax: (847)491-8306 Email: dca@nwu.edu From majordomo-users-owner Thu Aug 16 15:09:22 2001 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-980720-1) id OAA02150; Thu, 16 Aug 2001 14:54:38 -0700 (PDT) Received: from sparkie.elmo.osl.state.or.us (elmo.osl.state.or.us [159.121.122.35]) by honor.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B366817ECD for ; Thu, 16 Aug 2001 14:54:33 -0700 (PDT) Received: by sparkie.elmo.osl.state.or.us (Postfix, from userid 1006) id AFB1C1ED05; Thu, 16 Aug 2001 14:54:32 -0700 (PDT) Date: Thu, 16 Aug 2001 14:54:31 -0700 (PDT) From: "Christopher A. Adams" X-Sender: chris@elmo.osl.state.or.us To: majordomo-users@greatcircle.com Subject: turn off copy to self Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk Can majordomo (or a specific list) be set up so that if I send a message, I all list members will receive it, but I will not? I was always under the impression that it couldn't be done in MJD. Now a user of another MJD system tells me that they have never received their own messages. Some people like to receive them so that they know their message has gone through. I would just like to know if this is possible. Christopher Adams Automated Systems Oregon State Library chris@sparkie.osl.state.or.us From majordomo-users-owner Fri Aug 17 02:12:03 2001 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-980720-1) id BAA10820; Fri, 17 Aug 2001 01:50:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: from hotmail.com (f227.law8.hotmail.com [216.33.241.227]) by honor.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7DBA617E8B for ; Fri, 17 Aug 2001 01:50:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Fri, 17 Aug 2001 01:50:12 -0700 Received: from 210.214.115.51 by lw8fd.law8.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Fri, 17 Aug 2001 08:50:12 GMT X-Originating-IP: [210.214.115.51] From: "prasad menon" To: majordomo-users@greatcircle.com Subject: personalised messages Date: Fri, 17 Aug 2001 08:50:12 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 17 Aug 2001 08:50:12.0285 (UTC) FILETIME=[A06636D0:01C126F9] Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk Hi there, We plan to use majordomo for purposes of delivering newsletters to the subscribers of our website. I wanted to know if it is possible to send personalised messages to each subscriber using majordomo and if so how do we do it. Thanks in advance menon _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp From majordomo-users-owner Fri Aug 17 03:56:50 2001 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-980720-1) id DAA11601; Fri, 17 Aug 2001 03:04:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: from netscape.com (r2d2.netscape.com [205.217.237.47]) by honor.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1CA7217E8B for ; Fri, 17 Aug 2001 03:04:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: from judge.mcom.com (judge.mcom.com [205.217.237.53]) by netscape.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with ESMTP id f7HA4T606744 for ; Fri, 17 Aug 2001 03:04:29 -0700 (PDT) Received: from netscape.com ([205.217.228.57]) by judge.mcom.com (Netscape Messaging Server 4.15) with ESMTP id GI7INI01.G2W for ; Fri, 17 Aug 2001 03:04:30 -0700 Message-ID: <3B7CEC12.B81775A7@netscape.com> Date: Fri, 17 Aug 2001 05:04:02 -0500 From: dliston@netscape.com (Dan Liston) Organization: iPlanet eCommerce Solutions, A Sun-Netscape Alliance X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.78 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Majordomo-Users@GreatCircle.COM Subject: Re: duplicate email sent... References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk Perhaps the testing was invalid. Did any of the tests include domains that might not be up 24x7? Did any of the test addresses live on servers with anti-spam filters preventing delivery to more than 15 users per message? Did majordomo deliver the messages for delivery to sendmail? If so, I would look to your sendmail configuration before blaming majordomo. Have you ever used sendmail to send the same message to 10,000 users before? How did that test perform? Majordomo just hands messages to sendmail for delivery. Sendmail must be configured to support the load, time the queue runs, and translate addresses properly. Did you examine the majordomo-users archive for possible "bottleneck", "slow delivery", or "duplicate message" matches? Did you check FAQs, READMEs, or other news groups in this regard. If you did not do your research, perhaps your managers have reason to "blame" you. I have successfully run lists as large as 45-50k users using majordomo but sendmail was tweeked, and bulk_mailer implemented. We are more than willing to answer questions that are asked here, but you can't assume that because we answer something about majordomo or it's capabilities, that we know or assume your sendmail configuration is already tested, tuned, and working properly. Make sure your finger is pointing blame in the right direction, and good luck with your scripts in the next 2 days. Perhaps you will share them with the internet community when you are done to save others the embarassment you are experiencing right now. Dan Liston Georg Zumstrull wrote: > > Maybe your own new script will have the same "bug" if it is based on > sendmail. As far as I remember this problem has been discussed several times > on this list. It is because sendmail is not ready with delivery before the > next queue run. There are several options how to avoid this problem: > > - Sort the list for quicker delivery > > - Run the queue less often > > - Use an other program for delivery like bulkmailer > > Hope I didn't remember wrong things. > > Georg Zumstrull > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM > > [mailto:majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM]On Behalf Of Prasit P > > Sent: Wednesday, August 15, 2001 3:34 PM > > To: Majordomo-Users@GreatCircle.COM > > Subject: duplicate email sent... > > > > > > I'm damn upset with Majordomo. I configured and have been > > testing the system for 2 weeks without any problems. > > > > When I started to send mail to my real mailing list with > > 10,000 of email addresses. It sent out 10 copies to my > > subscribers and they're really mad at my organization... > > > > what's happen to this application? I use RedHat 6.2, > > sendmail 8.12, and the latest Majordomo, which shouldn't be > > any problems with whatsoever listed in the FAQs. > > > > > > I'm damn maddddd... everybody, my executive manager are > > blaming me now... > > > > Well, I decided to write my own mailing list script which > > shouldn't take me more than 2 days.... From majordomo-users-owner Fri Aug 17 06:26:51 2001 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-980720-1) id GAA15305; Fri, 17 Aug 2001 06:16:30 -0700 (PDT) Received: from tomts8-srv.bellnexxia.net (tomts8.bellnexxia.net [209.226.175.52]) by honor.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8768917ECA for ; Fri, 17 Aug 2001 06:16:17 -0700 (PDT) Received: from acer ([64.229.16.233]) by tomts8-srv.bellnexxia.net (InterMail vM.4.01.03.16 201-229-121-116-20010115) with SMTP id <20010817131616.GDSJ27547.tomts8-srv.bellnexxia.net@acer>; Fri, 17 Aug 2001 09:16:16 -0400 Message-Id: <3.0.6.32.20010817091308.01c46a00@pop6.sympatico.ca> X-Sender: b1wudu74@pop6.sympatico.ca X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.6 (32) Date: Fri, 17 Aug 2001 09:13:08 -0400 To: "Georg Zumstrull" From: Frank Bax Subject: RE: duplicate email sent... Cc: "Prasit P" , In-Reply-To: References: <20010815133348.10322.qmail@web11604.mail.yahoo.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk I've seen this explanation before, too; but I don't buy it. Has anyone been able to confirm that this is a real problem or is it a myth??? I have run my 4000 member list a couple of times on my lowly P-120 and it takes a few hours for all the messages to go out (it is sorted by domain). sendmail queue is set to 30 minutes and I didn't experience this problem. However, I did end up with duplicates!! I found that the message was actually being redirected back to my server from a member of the list. The problem was NOT with sendmail. The message came back to my server appearing to have been posted directly to list by the original poster. A dump of the message was byte-for-byte the same as original, except for a few extra headers that identified its path to recipient and back. These duplicates got through a second time because I didn't install any loop checking. I still haven't installed the loop-check. I change listname.post to be invalid address until user wants to send his bulkmail. To send to list, I fix this file, have user submit message and the after message is posted, I immediately disable list again. I haven't tried this, but I'm sure this would reproduce the problem. Create a list with one member testdup@yourdomain.com - also add an entry to your /etc/mail/virtualusertable that redirects email for this user back to your mailing list (basically an alias for your mailing list). Send a message to your list and you should have a loop. Frank At 05:29 PM 8/16/01 +0200, Georg Zumstrull wrote: >Maybe your own new script will have the same "bug" if it is based on >sendmail. As far as I remember this problem has been discussed several times >on this list. It is because sendmail is not ready with delivery before the >next queue run. There are several options how to avoid this problem: > > - Sort the list for quicker delivery > > - Run the queue less often > > - Use an other program for delivery like bulkmailer > >Hope I didn't remember wrong things. > >Georg Zumstrull > >> -----Original Message----- >> From: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM >> [mailto:majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM]On Behalf Of Prasit P >> Sent: Wednesday, August 15, 2001 3:34 PM >> To: Majordomo-Users@GreatCircle.COM >> Subject: duplicate email sent... >> >> >> I'm damn upset with Majordomo. I configured and have been >> testing the system for 2 weeks without any problems. >> >> When I started to send mail to my real mailing list with >> 10,000 of email addresses. It sent out 10 copies to my >> subscribers and they're really mad at my organization... >> >> what's happen to this application? I use RedHat 6.2, >> sendmail 8.12, and the latest Majordomo, which shouldn't be >> any problems with whatsoever listed in the FAQs. >> >> >> I'm damn maddddd... everybody, my executive manager are >> blaming me now... >> >> Well, I decided to write my own mailing list script which >> shouldn't take me more than 2 days.... >> >> >> >> >> >> >> ===== >> GROWTH - The rung of a ladder was never meant to rest upon, >> but only to hold your foot long enough to put the >> other foot higher. >> >> -anonymous >> >> __________________________________________________ >> Do You Yahoo!? >> Make international calls for as low as $.04/minute with Yahoo! Messenger >> http://phonecard.yahoo.com/ > > > From majordomo-users-owner Fri Aug 17 07:26:50 2001 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-980720-1) id HAA15867; Fri, 17 Aug 2001 07:06:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: from SvrDom01.cmaontheweb.com (unknown [204.252.239.230]) by honor.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B5D2817ECA for ; Fri, 17 Aug 2001 07:05:51 -0700 (PDT) To: Majordomo-Users@GreatCircle.COM Subject: Re: weird error (RFC1893): 5.5.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Lotus Notes Release 5.0.7 March 21, 2001 Message-ID: From: jwesley@CMAontheweb.com Date: Fri, 17 Aug 2001 09:05:48 -0500 X-MIMETrack: Serialize by Router on SvrDom01/CMA(Release 5.0.8 |June 18, 2001) at 08/17/2001 09:05:51 AM, Serialize complete at 08/17/2001 09:05:51 AM Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="=_alternative 004D5DA986256AAB_=" Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk This is a multipart message in MIME format. --=_alternative 004D5DA986256AAB_= Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ok the version of send mail I have is 8.9.3/8.9.3 The DNS thing...The Majordomo Box is not the main mail server we have two domino servers and then we have a few linux servers. The box with majordomo on it is inet02.cmaontheweb.com I can send and route email to and from the inet02 box, but the resend thing still doesn't work... >>>>Maybe it is because I am on a hotel provided internet connection, but the >5.5.0 error is probably related more to your network configuration than it >is the sendmail or majordomo configuration. Do this; >telnet svrdom01.cmaontheweb.com 25 >and you should see something like this; >Trying 204.252.239.230... >Connected to 204.252.239.230. >Escape character is '^]'. >220 reserve.guest-tek.com ESMTP Sendmail 8.9.3/8.8.7; Wed, 15 Aug 2001 20:21:36 -0700 >The line above will reveal the version number of your sendmail. I do not know if I >connected to a proxy or to your mail server from the information above. The guest-tek >domain is part of the hotel service, so I think I got a proxy here.> >To get out of the connection type "quit" without the quotes. >Now, about DNS. I look up nameservers for your domain and only get one >name/address returned. You are required to have 2 nameservers for your >domain. When I do a look up of MX records for your domain, I get two >names that themselves do not resolve in DNS. >THAT is probably what your 5.5.0 error is about. Jeremy Wesley Web Designer-Flasher-ASP MCP I, MCSE I, MCDBA Cherbonnier Mayer & Associates Office 225.927.9200 X334 Pager 225.660.8778 www.cmaontheweb.com --=_alternative 004D5DA986256AAB_= Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii"


ok the version of send mail I have is 8.9.3/8.9.3
The DNS thing...The Majordomo Box is not the main mail server we have two domino servers and then we have a few linux servers.
The box with majordomo on it is inet02.cmaontheweb.com
I can send and route email to and from the inet02 box, but the resend thing still doesn't work...
>>>>Maybe it is because I am on a hotel provided internet connection, but the
>5.5.0 error is probably related more to your network configuration than it
>is the sendmail or majordomo configuration.  Do this;

>telnet svrdom01.cmaontheweb.com 25<enter>
>and you should see something like this;
>Trying 204.252.239.230...
>Connected to 204.252.239.230.
>Escape character is '^]'.
>220 reserve.guest-tek.com ESMTP Sendmail 8.9.3/8.8.7; Wed, 15 Aug 2001 20:21:36 -0700

>The line above will reveal the version number of your sendmail.  I do not know if I
>connected to a proxy or to your mail server from the information above.  The guest-tek
>domain is part of the hotel service, so I think I got a proxy here.>

>To get out of the connection type "quit<enter>" without the quotes.

>Now, about DNS.  I look up nameservers for your domain and only get one
>name/address returned.  You are required to have 2 nameservers for your
>domain.  When I do a look up of MX records for your domain, I get two
>names that themselves do not resolve in DNS.

>THAT is probably what your 5.5.0 error is about.

Jeremy Wesley
Web Designer-Flasher-ASP
MCP I, MCSE I, MCDBA
Cherbonnier Mayer & Associates
Office 225.927.9200 X334
Pager  225.660.8778
www.cmaontheweb.com
--=_alternative 004D5DA986256AAB_=-- From majordomo-users-owner Fri Aug 17 10:26:57 2001 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-980720-1) id KAA18067; Fri, 17 Aug 2001 10:09:18 -0700 (PDT) Received: from cascadia.drizzle.com (cascadia.drizzle.com [216.162.192.17]) by honor.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 926E617ED6 for ; Fri, 17 Aug 2001 10:09:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: from n7j8l9 (splash221.drizzle.com [216.162.197.221]) by cascadia.drizzle.com (8.11.5/8.11.5) with SMTP id f7HH9Bm17572 for ; Fri, 17 Aug 2001 10:09:12 -0700 Reply-To: From: "Nan Hawthorne" To: "Majordomo-Users" Subject: Easy one for you Date: Fri, 17 Aug 2001 10:11:37 -0700 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 Importance: Normal Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk Here's an easy one for you. How do I change the config file on a moderated list so the messages appear to come from the original sender? Thanks! Nan From majordomo-users-owner Fri Aug 17 10:56:50 2001 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-980720-1) id KAA18461; Fri, 17 Aug 2001 10:38:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ginger.wingscc.com (unknown [208.152.97.245]) by honor.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6CBB017ED6 for ; Fri, 17 Aug 2001 10:38:40 -0700 (PDT) Received: from bbs ([208.152.97.240]) by ginger.wingscc.com (Post.Office MTA v3.5.3 release 223 ID# 103-51852U100L100S0V35) with SMTP id com; Fri, 17 Aug 2001 12:41:00 -0500 Message-Id: <3.0.32.20010817123559.00ccf170@mail.wingscc.com> X-Sender: wings@mail.wingscc.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0 (32) Date: Fri, 17 Aug 2001 12:36:06 -0500 To: Prasit P From: wings@wingscc.com (Jardine Parrot Web) Subject: Re: duplicate email sent... Cc: Majordomo-Users@GreatCircle.COM Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk I have not been reading all of the replies to the thread, but I do not think anyone has mentioned the bulk_mailer. The bulk_mailer will significantly increase delivery time. You should try to install it. There are many posts regarding the bulk_mailer in the archives if you experience any problems. Also, try sorting the names of subscribers in your subscriber file by their domain. At 06:33 AM 8/15/01 -0700, you wrote: >I'm damn upset with Majordomo. I configured and have been >testing the system for 2 weeks without any problems. > >When I started to send mail to my real mailing list with >10,000 of email addresses. It sent out 10 copies to my >subscribers and they're really mad at my organization... > >what's happen to this application? I use RedHat 6.2, >sendmail 8.12, and the latest Majordomo, which shouldn't be >any problems with whatsoever listed in the FAQs. > > >I'm damn maddddd... everybody, my executive manager are >blaming me now... > >Well, I decided to write my own mailing list script which >shouldn't take me more than 2 days.... > > > > > > >===== >GROWTH - The rung of a ladder was never meant to rest upon, >but only to hold your foot long enough to put the >other foot higher. > >-anonymous > >__________________________________________________ >Do You Yahoo!? >Make international calls for as low as $.04/minute with Yahoo! Messenger >http://phonecard.yahoo.com/ > > From majordomo-users-owner Fri Aug 17 11:27:18 2001 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-980720-1) id LAA18836; Fri, 17 Aug 2001 11:09:06 -0700 (PDT) Received: from smtp2.concord.com (smtp2.concord.com [192.124.16.229]) by honor.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3ADFD17ED6 for ; Fri, 17 Aug 2001 11:08:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: from exchng3.concord.com (unverified) by smtp2.concord.com (Content Technologies SMTPRS 4.2.1) with ESMTP id for ; Fri, 17 Aug 2001 14:15:14 -0400 Received: by exchng3.concord.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) id ; Fri, 17 Aug 2001 14:04:40 -0400 Message-ID: <672B00A685D0D411AF32009027D638570183EFCE@mdfrouter2-eng.concord.com> From: "LaPorta, Fab" To: "'majordomo-users@greatcircle.com'" Subject: majordomo-1.94.5 and sendmail-8.11.5 Date: Fri, 17 Aug 2001 14:01:28 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk I'm getting this error in sendmail's syslog. I know it is a known bug in sendmail. But I was wondering if anyone has a workaround. error = timeout waiting for input from local during Draining Input Thanks Fab ********************************************************************** This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify the system manager. This footnote also confirms that this email message has been swept by the latest virus scan software available for the presence of computer viruses. ********************************************************************** From majordomo-users-owner Fri Aug 17 11:41:53 2001 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-980720-1) id LAA18982; Fri, 17 Aug 2001 11:22:48 -0700 (PDT) Received: from perilpoint.com (perilpoint.com [161.58.219.8]) by honor.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7BD6217ED6 for ; Fri, 17 Aug 2001 11:22:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: from default (d12.as0.burl.wi.voyager.net [169.207.96.76]) by perilpoint.com (8.11.2) id f7HIMdK68943; Fri, 17 Aug 2001 13:22:39 -0500 (CDT) Message-Id: <4.2.0.58.20010817132038.00d2c100@perilpoint.com> X-Sender: listmgr@perilpoint.com (Unverified) X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.2.0.58 Date: Fri, 17 Aug 2001 13:20:48 -0500 To: Majordomo-Users@GreatCircle.COM From: Bradford Shaw Subject: countering SPAM filtering Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk Hello, With the recent spam filtering methods that MSN, Hotmail, Yahoo, AOL, etc. email services are implementing to filter mailing list mail into bulk folders or worse, we need to quickly come up with some counter-procedures to get our customers' opt-in list subscribers receiving their mail again. A couple things that we would like to implement are: (1) removing the Precedence: bulk header or changing it to something like 'private' or 'registered' (2) to have the To: header addressed to the receiver instead of the list address How or where would we make these changes? I tried changing the CookHeaders.py but ended up blowing the delivery away. I ended up with over 200 X-BeenThere: headers on a test list. I don't know why that happened but I'm not going to worry about it right now. The most important thing is to get the filtering problem solved. Can anyone help? Best wishes, Bradford "Biff" Shaw List Administrator PerilPoint Communications Inc. http://www.perilpoint.com From majordomo-users-owner Fri Aug 17 12:12:35 2001 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-980720-1) id LAA19329; Fri, 17 Aug 2001 11:43:23 -0700 (PDT) Received: from spn25c0.fiu.edu (unknown [131.94.68.193]) by honor.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7E68317ED6 for ; Fri, 17 Aug 2001 11:43:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: from fiu.edu ([131.94.128.185]) by spn25c0.fiu.edu (InterMail vK.4.03.04.01 201-232-130-101 license d3ed443c752af15f51469a1cfbdca8d5) with ESMTP id <20010817183944.QPBP27176.spn25c0@fiu.edu>; Fri, 17 Aug 2001 14:39:44 -0400 Message-ID: <3B7D6533.2FB6558D@fiu.edu> Date: Fri, 17 Aug 2001 14:40:51 -0400 From: Maria Purvis X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.73 [en] (Win98; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: majordomo-users@greatcircle.com Cc: anthonyg@fiu.edu, hou@fiu.edu Subject: Problem with Majordomo Digests Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk Hi. Hope someone can help. We are running Majordomo version 1.94.4. We have been trying to set up a digest list. We have read the O'Reilly book on "Mailing Lists" and we have read numerous articles about how to set up a digest. After attempting everything, our digest is not working. Here's what we have done. Any help would be greatly appreciated!!! 1. We created two lists: oes2-test and oes2-test-digest following normal procedures for a new mailing list. 2. We modified our aliases file to look as follows: oes2-test: "|/usr/local/majordomo/wrapper resend -s -l oes2-test -f oes2-test-owner -h fiu.edu oes2-test-list" oes2-test-list: :include:/usr/local/majordomo/lists/oes2-test, "|/usr/local/majordomo/wrapper digest -r -C -l oes2-test-digest oes2-test-digest-list" owner-oes2-test: mariam@fiu.edu oes2-test-owner: owner-oes2-test oes2-test-request: "|/usr/local/majordomo/wrapper majordomo -l oes2-test" oes2-test-approval: owner-oes2-test oes2-test-digest: oes2-test oes2-test-digest-list: :include:/usr/local/majordomo/lists/oes2-test-digest owner-oes2-test-digest: owner-oes2-test oes2-test-digest-owner: owner-oes2-test oes2-test-digest-request: "|/usr/local/majordomo/wrapper majordomo -l oes2-test-digest" oes2-test-digest-approval: owner-oes2-test 3. We looked in our majordomo.cf file for the imporant variables and their definitions and found the following: $digest_work_dir = "/usr/local/mail/digest" $filedir = "$listdir" $listdir = "$homedir/lists" $homedir = "/usr/local/majordomo" $filedir_suffix = ".archive" 4. We then created the following directories: /usr/local/mail/digest/oes2-test-digest /usr/local/majordomo/lists/oes2-test-digest.archive They are both owned by "majordomo" and majordomo can write to them. 5. We modified the oes2-test-digest.config file and changed the following parameters: digest_issue=1 digest_volume=1 digest_maxdays=1 digest_maxlines=5 maxlength=2000000 6. We then attempted to test the digest. I sent a one-line message to oes2-test (to which I am not subscribed anymore, but I am subscribed to the oes2-test-digest mailing list) and received no e-mail. I then attempted to send a second e-mail with more than 10 lines, and still get no e-mail. 7. When we check in the /usr/local/majordomo/lists/oes2-test-digest.archive and in the /usr/local/mail/digest/oes2-test-digest directories, we find no files. (Isn't majordomo supposed to start keeping these files here?) 8. Also, we are not sure where to go to look at a Log of what is going wrong. Any ideas where the Majordomo Log is kept? We found a Log file in $homedir/Log but it only shows commands that our users are sending to Majordomo (like unsubscribes, etc.). We cannot find a log showing what is going wrong with our digest. 9. We also tried sending majordomo the "mkdigest command but we get this error message back: >>>> mkdigest oes2-test oes2-test-348 mj_digest: ABORT Can't create new config file /usr/local/majordomo-1.94.4/lists/oes2-test.config Why is majordomo trying to create a new config file when that already exists? We think we are close to getting this to work, but we need some help. Any help provided will be GREATLY appreciated! Thanks! -- Maria Purvis Coordinator Operations & Systems Programming Charles Perry Building, Room 417C Office Phone: (305)348-2699 Office Fax: (305)348-3686 Cellular/Pager: (305)796-9514 E-mail: mariam@fiu.edu From majordomo-users-owner Fri Aug 17 13:58:24 2001 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-980720-1) id NAA21180; Fri, 17 Aug 2001 13:36:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: from jsc-ems-vws04.jsc.nasa.gov (jsc-ems-vws04.jsc.nasa.gov [139.169.39.51]) by honor.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with SMTP id 7A1CB17ED6 for ; Fri, 17 Aug 2001 13:35:54 -0700 (PDT) Received: from 139.169.39.19 by jsc-ems-vws04.jsc.nasa.gov (InterScan E-Mail VirusWall NT); Fri, 17 Aug 2001 15:35:53 -0500 (Central Daylight Time) Received: by jsc-ems-gws03.jsc.nasa.gov with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) id ; Fri, 17 Aug 2001 15:35:47 -0500 Message-ID: <31DE3053CACFD111A69600005A40B84D069FC0DB@jsc-ems-mbs01.jsc.nasa.gov> From: "AMAN, ALICE L. (JSC-GT4) (NASA)" To: "'majordomo-users@greatcircle.com'" Subject: RE: majordomo-1.94.5 and sendmail-8.11.5 Date: Fri, 17 Aug 2001 15:35:25 -0500 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk We are seeing the same message. Here's some info I found on the web. I have discontinued bulk mailer for my biggest list (17000) and reliability seems to have improved. I'm still looking into this. Here's some info I found searching the newsgroups: From: Neil W Rickert (rickert+nn@cs.niu.edu) Subject: Re: Draining Input - What does this mean? Newsgroups: comp.mail.sendmail View complete thread (2 articles) Date: 2001-06-08 15:00:05 PST "John Chong" writes: >Does anyone know what this means: >timeout waiting for input from local during Draining Input >From KNOWNBUGS * Delivery to programs that generate too much output may cause problems (8.10, 8.11) If e-mail is delivered to a program which generates too much output, then sendmail may issue an error: timeout waiting for input from local during Draining Input Make sure that the program does not generate output beyond a status message (corresponding to the exit status). This may require a wrapper around the actual program to redirect output to /dev/null. Such a problem has been reported for bulk_mailer. -----Original Message----- From: LaPorta, Fab [mailto:flaporta@concord.com] Sent: Friday, August 17, 2001 1:01 PM To: 'majordomo-users@greatcircle.com' Subject: majordomo-1.94.5 and sendmail-8.11.5 I'm getting this error in sendmail's syslog. I know it is a known bug in sendmail. But I was wondering if anyone has a workaround. error = timeout waiting for input from local during Draining Input Thanks Fab ********************************************************************** This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify the system manager. This footnote also confirms that this email message has been swept by the latest virus scan software available for the presence of computer viruses. ********************************************************************** From majordomo-users-owner Fri Aug 17 15:58:11 2001 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-980720-1) id PAA22745; Fri, 17 Aug 2001 15:43:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: from sparkie.elmo.osl.state.or.us (elmo.osl.state.or.us [159.121.122.35]) by honor.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9358C17ED6 for ; Fri, 17 Aug 2001 15:43:16 -0700 (PDT) Received: by sparkie.elmo.osl.state.or.us (Postfix, from userid 1006) id D9FEC1ED19; Fri, 17 Aug 2001 15:43:15 -0700 (PDT) Date: Fri, 17 Aug 2001 15:43:15 -0700 (PDT) From: "Christopher A. Adams" X-Sender: chris@elmo.osl.state.or.us To: majordomo-users@greatcircle.com Subject: stop messages to self Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk How can I prevent messages that I send to a list from being delivered to me. Several users have asked about this. I assumed that MJD didn't allow this, but a user says that another MJD system does, so................. Christopher Adams Automated Systems Oregon State Library chris@sparkie.osl.state.or.us From majordomo-users-owner Fri Aug 17 20:41:53 2001 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-980720-1) id UAA25647; Fri, 17 Aug 2001 20:20:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail.bcpl.net (mail.bcpl.net [204.255.212.10]) by honor.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D67D017EAF for ; Fri, 17 Aug 2001 20:20:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (fold@localhost) by mail.bcpl.net (8.11.3/8.11.3) with ESMTP id f7I3Jtf11611 for ; Fri, 17 Aug 2001 23:19:58 -0400 (EDT) Date: Fri, 17 Aug 2001 23:19:47 -0400 (EDT) From: Chip Old To: MAJORDOMO-USERS Subject: Re: stop messages to self In-Reply-To: Message-ID: X-Organization: BCPL.NET Internet Services MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk On Fri, 17 Aug 2001, Christopher A. Adams wrote: > How can I prevent messages that I send to a list from being delivered to > me. Several users have asked about this. I assumed that MJD didn't allow > this, but a user says that another MJD system does, so................. That isn't controlled by Majordomo. It's controlled by the Mail Transport Agent (Sendmail, Qmail, or whatever) used on the machine on which Majordomo runs. If you were using Sendmail I could tell you what to do, but your message header shows you're using Postfix, which I know nothing about. Keep in mind, however, that reconfiguring your MTA not to deliver list messages to the sender will affect all lists (both Majordomo-managed and plain alias lists). -- Chip Old (Francis E. Old) E-Mail: fold@bcpl.net Manager, BCPL Network Services Phone: 410-887-6180 Manager, BCPL.NET Internet Services FAX: 410-887-2091 Baltimore County Public Library 320 York Road Towson, MD 21204 USA From majordomo-users-owner Sun Aug 19 11:52:11 2001 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-980720-1) id LAA23494; Sun, 19 Aug 2001 11:16:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: from bard.net (bard.net [207.159.145.137]) by honor.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B586A17E8B for ; Sun, 19 Aug 2001 11:15:56 -0700 (PDT) Received: from shadowdale.bard.net (nightmare@24-159-98-147.hsacorp.net [24.159.98.147]) by bard.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA00212 for ; Sun, 19 Aug 2001 14:15:49 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <5.1.0.14.2.20010819141343.041f5618@bard.net> X-Sender: webmaster@bard.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Sun, 19 Aug 2001 14:15:39 -0400 To: majordomo-users@GreatCircle.COM From: Michael Donohue Subject: Re: stop messages to self In-Reply-To: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk That's not necessarily true. I don't know why or how, but my plain alias lists do not copy the sender. But majordomo does. I'm taking the "don't fix it if it isn't broken" approach and leaving it alone. At Friday 11:19 PM 8/17/2001, you wrote: >That isn't controlled by Majordomo. It's controlled by the Mail Transport >Agent (Sendmail, Qmail, or whatever) used on the machine on which >Majordomo runs. If you were using Sendmail I could tell you what to do, >but your message header shows you're using Postfix, which I know nothing >about. > >Keep in mind, however, that reconfiguring your MTA not to deliver list >messages to the sender will affect all lists (both Majordomo-managed and >plain alias lists). Michael K Donohue Webmaster/Sys Admin Bardic Solutions http://www.bard.net webmaster@bard.net From majordomo-users-owner Sun Aug 19 16:48:35 2001 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-980720-1) id QAA27313; Sun, 19 Aug 2001 16:22:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail.bcpl.net (mail.bcpl.net [204.255.212.10]) by honor.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7177717E8B for ; Sun, 19 Aug 2001 16:21:54 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (fold@localhost) by mail.bcpl.net (8.11.3/8.11.3) with ESMTP id f7JNLnv16294 for ; Sun, 19 Aug 2001 19:21:50 -0400 (EDT) Date: Sun, 19 Aug 2001 19:21:49 -0400 (EDT) From: Chip Old To: MAJORDOMO-USERS Subject: Re: stop messages to self In-Reply-To: <5.1.0.14.2.20010819141343.041f5618@bard.net> Message-ID: X-Organization: BCPL.NET Internet Services MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk Maybe it's some difference in the way yours and my Majordomo aliases are configured, then. In Sendmail I have the "MeToo" option set to true, and the sender receives messages he writes to plain alias lists and Majordomo lists. If I set "MeToo" to false, he doesn't. On Sun, 19 Aug 2001, Michael Donohue wrote: > That's not necessarily true. > > I don't know why or how, but my plain alias lists do not copy the > sender. But majordomo does. > > I'm taking the "don't fix it if it isn't broken" approach and leaving > it alone. > > At Friday 11:19 PM 8/17/2001, you wrote: > >That isn't controlled by Majordomo. It's controlled by the Mail Transport > >Agent (Sendmail, Qmail, or whatever) used on the machine on which > >Majordomo runs. If you were using Sendmail I could tell you what to do, > >but your message header shows you're using Postfix, which I know nothing > >about. > > > >Keep in mind, however, that reconfiguring your MTA not to deliver list > >messages to the sender will affect all lists (both Majordomo-managed and > >plain alias lists). -- Chip Old (Francis E. Old) E-Mail: fold@bcpl.net Manager, BCPL Network Services Phone: 410-887-6180 Manager, BCPL.NET Internet Services FAX: 410-887-2091 320 York Road Towson, MD 21204 USA From majordomo-users-owner Mon Aug 20 04:50:03 2001 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-980720-1) id DAA07337; Mon, 20 Aug 2001 03:33:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: from smtp2.concord.com (smtp2.concord.com [192.124.16.229]) by honor.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2DEE617E8B for ; Mon, 20 Aug 2001 03:33:17 -0700 (PDT) Received: from exchng3.concord.com (unverified) by smtp2.concord.com (Content Technologies SMTPRS 4.2.1) with ESMTP id ; Mon, 20 Aug 2001 06:39:41 -0400 Received: by exchng3.concord.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) id ; Mon, 20 Aug 2001 06:28:54 -0400 Message-ID: <672B00A685D0D411AF32009027D638570183EFD0@mdfrouter2-eng.concord.com> From: "LaPorta, Fab" To: "'AMAN, ALICE L. (JSC-GT4) (NASA)'" , "'majordomo-users@greatcircle.com'" Subject: RE: majordomo-1.94.5 and sendmail-8.11.5 Date: Mon, 20 Aug 2001 06:25:47 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk Thanks for your reply Alice. I decided to down grade sendmail to 8.9.3 as I am running out of time to complete this project. I read the below Jonn Chong newsgroup posting on google, but I and others I've asked could not figure out what the fix is for our situation. If you figure it out let me know I would love to get back to 8.11.5. Thanks again, Fab -----Original Message----- From: AMAN, ALICE L. (JSC-GT4) (NASA) [mailto:alice.l.aman1@jsc.nasa.gov] Sent: Friday, August 17, 2001 4:35 PM To: 'majordomo-users@greatcircle.com' Subject: RE: majordomo-1.94.5 and sendmail-8.11.5 We are seeing the same message. Here's some info I found on the web. I have discontinued bulk mailer for my biggest list (17000) and reliability seems to have improved. I'm still looking into this. Here's some info I found searching the newsgroups: From: Neil W Rickert (rickert+nn@cs.niu.edu) Subject: Re: Draining Input - What does this mean? Newsgroups: comp.mail.sendmail View complete thread (2 articles) Date: 2001-06-08 15:00:05 PST "John Chong" writes: >Does anyone know what this means: >timeout waiting for input from local during Draining Input >From KNOWNBUGS * Delivery to programs that generate too much output may cause problems (8.10, 8.11) If e-mail is delivered to a program which generates too much output, then sendmail may issue an error: timeout waiting for input from local during Draining Input Make sure that the program does not generate output beyond a status message (corresponding to the exit status). This may require a wrapper around the actual program to redirect output to /dev/null. Such a problem has been reported for bulk_mailer. -----Original Message----- From: LaPorta, Fab [mailto:flaporta@concord.com] Sent: Friday, August 17, 2001 1:01 PM To: 'majordomo-users@greatcircle.com' Subject: majordomo-1.94.5 and sendmail-8.11.5 I'm getting this error in sendmail's syslog. I know it is a known bug in sendmail. But I was wondering if anyone has a workaround. error = timeout waiting for input from local during Draining Input Thanks Fab ********************************************************************** This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify the system manager. This footnote also confirms that this email message has been swept by the latest virus scan software available for the presence of computer viruses. ********************************************************************** From majordomo-users-owner Mon Aug 20 08:42:29 2001 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-980720-1) id IAA10005; Mon, 20 Aug 2001 08:20:35 -0700 (PDT) Received: from spn19c0.fiu.edu (spn19a0.fiu.edu [131.94.68.191]) by honor.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8D22D17E8B for ; Mon, 20 Aug 2001 08:19:51 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [10.10.20.19] by spn19c0.fiu.edu (InterMail vK.4.03.04.01 201-232-130-101 license d3ed443c752af15f51469a1cfbdca8d5) with SMTP id <20010820151616.XIH24646.spn19c0@[10.10.20.19]> for ; Mon, 20 Aug 2001 11:16:16 -0400 From: Anthony Gonzalez Organization: IRM Enterprise Systems To: majordomo-users@greatcircle.com Subject: Problem with Majordomo digest Date: Mon, 20 Aug 2001 11:16:16 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <20010820151616.XIH24646.spn19c0@[10.10.20.19]> Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk Good morning! Hello everyone. Hope someone can can help. We are running Majordomo version 1.94.4. We have been trying to set up a digest list. We have read the O'Reilly book on "Mailing Lists" and we have read numerous articles about how to set up a digest. After attempting everything, our digest is not working. Here's what we have done. Any help would be greatly appreciated!!! 1. We created two lists: oes2-test and oes2-test-digest following normal procedures for a new mailing list. 2. We modified our aliases file to look as follows: oes2-test: "|/usr/local/majordomo/wrapper resend -s -l oes2-test -f oes2-test-owner -h fiu.edu oes2-test-list" oes2-test-list: :include:/usr/local/majordomo/lists/oes2-test, "|/usr/local/majordomo/wrapper digest -r -C -l oes2-test-digest oes2-test-digest-list" owner-oes2-test: mariam@fiu.edu oes2-test-owner: owner-oes2-test oes2-test-request: "|/usr/local/majordomo/wrapper majordomo -l oes2-test" oes2-test-approval: owner-oes2-test oes2-test-digest: oes2-test oes2-test-digest-list: :include:/usr/local/majordomo/lists/oes2-test-digest owner-oes2-test-digest: owner-oes2-test oes2-test-digest-owner: owner-oes2-test oes2-test-digest-request: "|/usr/local/majordomo/wrapper majordomo -l oes2-test-digest" oes2-test-digest-approval: owner-oes2-test 3. We looked in our majordomo.cf file for the imporant variables and their definitions and found the following: $digest_work_dir = "/usr/local/mail/digest" $filedir = "$listdir" $listdir = "$homedir/lists" $homedir = "/usr/local/majordomo" $filedir_suffix = ".archive" 4. We then created the following directories: /usr/local/mail/digest/oes2-test-digest /usr/local/majordomo/lists/oes2-test-digest.archive They are both owned by "majordomo" and majordomo can write to them. 5. We modified the oes2-test-digest.config file and changed the following parameters: digest_issue=1 digest_volume=1 digest_maxdays=1 digest_maxlines=5 maxlength=2000000 6. We then attempted to test the digest. I sent a one-line message to oes2-test (to which I am not subscribed anymore, but I am subscribed to the oes2-test-digest mailing list) and received no e-mail. I then attempted to send a second e-mail with more than 10 lines, and still get no e-mail. 7. When we check in the /usr/local/majordomo/lists/oes2-test-digest.archive and in the /usr/local/mail/digest/oes2-test-digest directories, we find no files. (Isn't majordomo supposed to start keeping these files here?) 8. Also, we are not sure where to go to look at a Log of what is going wrong. Any ideas where the Majordomo Log is kept? We found a Log file in $homedir/Log but it only shows commands that our users are sending to Majordomo (like unsubscribes, etc.). We cannot find a log showing what is going wrong with our digest. 9. We also tried sending majordomo the "mkdigest command but we get this error message back: >>>> mkdigest oes2-test oes2-test-348 mj_digest: ABORT Can't create new config file /usr/local/majordomo-1.94.4/lists/oes2-test.config Why is majordomo trying to create a new config file when that already exists? We think we are close to getting this to work, but we need some help. Any help provided will be GREATLY appreciated! Thanks! From majordomo-users-owner Mon Aug 20 09:27:20 2001 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-980720-1) id JAA10504; Mon, 20 Aug 2001 09:11:53 -0700 (PDT) Received: from SvrDom01.cmaontheweb.com (unknown [204.252.239.230]) by honor.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id BFBE017E8B for ; Mon, 20 Aug 2001 09:11:46 -0700 (PDT) To: majordomo-users@greatcircle.com Cc: dliston@netscape.com Subject: EASY PROBLEM..i hope MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Lotus Notes Release 5.0.7 March 21, 2001 Message-ID: From: jwesley@CMAontheweb.com Date: Mon, 20 Aug 2001 11:11:44 -0500 X-MIMETrack: Serialize by Router on SvrDom01/CMA(Release 5.0.8 |June 18, 2001) at 08/20/2001 11:11:46 AM, Serialize complete at 08/20/2001 11:11:46 AM Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="=_alternative 0058E62786256AAE_=" Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk This is a multipart message in MIME format. --=_alternative 0058E62786256AAE_= Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Thanks to Daniel Liston I almost have my MD box setup. I have one small problem though.... What are the permission's suppose to be on the lists dir? I was getting bounce backs form the server saying that the list file was not readable, so I chmod it to 777 then majordomo replied with "Returned mail: :include:/usr/lib/majordomo/lists/test ... Cannot open /usr/lib/majordomo/lists/test: World writable directory" yes I know 777 is not a good thing to be setting things to but I was just trying to get it to work. I am so close to having this thing setup. Thanks Jeremy Wesley Web Designer-Flasher-ASP MCP I, MCSE I, MCDBA Cherbonnier Mayer & Associates Office 225.927.9200 X334 Pager 225.660.8778 www.cmaontheweb.com --=_alternative 0058E62786256AAE_= Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii"
Thanks to Daniel Liston I almost have my MD box setup. I have one small problem though....
What are the permission's suppose to be on the lists dir? I was getting bounce backs form the server saying that the list file was not readable, so I chmod it to 777 then majordomo replied with "Returned mail: :include:/usr/lib/majordomo/lists/test ... Cannot open /usr/lib/majordomo/lists/test: World writable directory"
yes I know 777 is not a good thing to be setting things to but I was just trying to get it to work. I am so close to having this thing setup.
Thanks
Jeremy Wesley
Web Designer-Flasher-ASP
MCP I, MCSE I, MCDBA
Cherbonnier Mayer & Associates
Office 225.927.9200 X334
Pager  225.660.8778
www.cmaontheweb.com --=_alternative 0058E62786256AAE_=-- From majordomo-users-owner Mon Aug 20 11:23:45 2001 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-980720-1) id LAA11722; Mon, 20 Aug 2001 11:09:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: from syslang.syslang.net (146-115-228-54.c3-0.frm-ubr1.sbo-frm.ma.cable.rcn.com [146.115.228.54]) by honor.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 90FA817E8B for ; Mon, 20 Aug 2001 11:09:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (steveo@localhost) by syslang.syslang.net (8.11.2/8.11.2) with ESMTP id f7KI8Yf19550 for ; Mon, 20 Aug 2001 14:08:35 -0400 Date: Mon, 20 Aug 2001 14:08:34 -0400 (EDT) From: "Steven W. Orr" To: Majordomo-users Subject: Is there a way to only allow postings to a list from list members? In-Reply-To: <672B00A685D0D411AF32009027D638570183EFD0@mdfrouter2-eng.concord.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk I just had a virus injected into a list from some spammer who forged headers saying that he was from hahaha@sexyfun.com Is there a way to do this? TIA -- -Time flies like the wind. Fruit flies like a banana. Stranger things have - -happened but none stranger than this. Does your driver's license say Organ -Donor?Black holes are where God divided by zero. Listen to me! We are all- -individuals! What if this weren't a hypothetical question? steveo@syslang.net From majordomo-users-owner Mon Aug 20 12:08:37 2001 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-980720-1) id LAA12145; Mon, 20 Aug 2001 11:50:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: from SvrDom01.cmaontheweb.com (unknown [204.252.239.230]) by honor.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2C1B717E8B for ; Mon, 20 Aug 2001 11:49:55 -0700 (PDT) To: majordomo-users@greatcircle.com Cc: dliston@netscape.com Subject: RE: EASY PROBLEM..i hope MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Lotus Notes Release 5.0.7 March 21, 2001 Message-ID: From: jwesley@cmaontheweb.com Date: Mon, 20 Aug 2001 13:49:53 -0500 X-MIMETrack: Serialize by Router on SvrDom01/CMA(Release 5.0.8 |June 18, 2001) at 08/20/2001 01:49:54 PM, Serialize complete at 08/20/2001 01:49:54 PM Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk I found the Answer ( 775) Jeremy Wesley Web Designer-Flasher-ASP MCP I, MCSE I, MCDBA Cherbonnier Mayer & Associates Office 225.927.9200 X334 Pager 225.660.8778 www.cmaontheweb.com ----- Forwarded by Jeremy Wesley/CMA on 08/20/2001 01:48 PM ----- Jeremy Wesley 08/20/2001 11:11 AM To: majordomo-users@greatcircle.com cc: dliston@netscape.com Subject: EASY PROBLEM..i hope Thanks to Daniel Liston I almost have my MD box setup. I have one small problem though.... What are the permission's suppose to be on the lists dir? I was getting bounce backs form the server saying that the list file was not readable, so I chmod it to 777 then majordomo replied with "Returned mail: :include:/usr/lib/majordomo/lists/test ... Cannot open /usr/lib/majordomo/lists/test: World writable directory" yes I know 777 is not a good thing to be setting things to but I was just trying to get it to work. I am so close to having this thing setup. Thanks Jeremy Wesley Web Designer-Flasher-ASP MCP I, MCSE I, MCDBA Cherbonnier Mayer & Associates Office 225.927.9200 X334 Pager 225.660.8778 www.cmaontheweb.com From majordomo-users-owner Mon Aug 20 14:23:47 2001 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-980720-1) id OAA13741; Mon, 20 Aug 2001 14:18:58 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail.bcpl.net (mail.bcpl.net [204.255.212.10]) by honor.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E0CD517E8B for ; Mon, 20 Aug 2001 14:18:50 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (fold@localhost) by mail.bcpl.net (8.11.3/8.11.3) with ESMTP id f7KLIff06225 for ; Mon, 20 Aug 2001 17:18:42 -0400 (EDT) Date: Mon, 20 Aug 2001 17:18:41 -0400 (EDT) From: Chip Old To: Majordomo-Users Subject: Re: Is there a way to only allow postings to a list from list members? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: X-Organization: BCPL.NET Internet Services MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk On Mon, 20 Aug 2001, Steven W. Orr wrote: > I just had a virus injected into a list from some spammer who forged > headers saying that he was from hahaha@sexyfun.com > > Is there a way to do this? That wasn't a deliberate spammer attack, it was sent by a PC infected by the Hybris Worm. A Hybris-infected PC watches the data stream into and out of the PC, looking for e-mail addresses. When one is found, Hybris sends its characteristic "Snowhite..." message to that address with "hahaha@sexyfun.net" on the "From:" line. Typically the PC's owner doesn't even know this is going on. He isn't guilty of spamming or deliberately spreading a virus, he's just guilty of being stupid enough to open an unknown file attachment, infecting his PC. If Hybris on his PC detected your list address and sent mail to it, that means the infected PC probably belongs to one of your list members. If Majordomo accepted a message from "hahaha@sexyfun.net", then obviously it's an open list (meaning non-subscribers can post to it). Use "restrict_post" in your list.config file to make your list a closed list, i.e. allow postings to the list only by list members. Unless some jerk actually subscribes as "hahaha@sexyfun.net", messages from that address will be bounced to the listowner for approval. Obviously you don't want to approve them. To preclude the possibility of some idiot actually subscribing as "hahaha@sexyfun.net", set "subscribe_policy" in your list.config file to "open+confirm". This will cause a request for confirmation to be sent to the address shown on every subscription request. Since "hahaha@sexyfun.net" is a bogus address, the confirmation request will never reach the idiot who tried to subscribe, and "hahaha@sexyfun.net" will never be subscribed. Set maxlength in your list.config file small enough to preclude most attachments. The default is 40000 characters. Unless you really want people to be able to post ultra-long messages, set it down to 20000 or even 15000. Messages longer than maxlength will be bounced to the list owner for approval. If it's just a very wordy message, you can approve it. If it's long because of an infected file attachment, naturally you won't approve it. Or you can use "demime" to convert MIME-encoded messages to plain text. This will strip off attachments. I don't use demime, but others here can fill in the details. -- Chip Old (Francis E. Old) E-Mail: fold@bcpl.net Manager, BCPL Network Services Phone: 410-887-6180 Manager, BCPL.NET Internet Services FAX: 410-887-2091 Baltimore County Public Library 320 York Road Towson, MD 21204 USA From majordomo-users-owner Mon Aug 20 14:38:46 2001 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-980720-1) id OAA13923; Mon, 20 Aug 2001 14:34:23 -0700 (PDT) Received: from sage-american.com (sage-american.com [216.122.141.44]) by honor.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 799CD17E8B for ; Mon, 20 Aug 2001 14:34:17 -0700 (PDT) Received: from sageone (ppp-208-191-235-100.dialup.crchtx.swbell.net [208.191.235.100]) by sage-american.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id QAA00207; Mon, 20 Aug 2001 16:34:10 -0500 (CDT) Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.20010820163420.0111db68@mail.sage-american.com> X-Sender: jacks@mail.sage-american.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.5 (32) Date: Mon, 20 Aug 2001 16:34:20 -0500 To: "Steven W. Orr" , Majordomo-users From: jacks@sage-american.com Subject: Re: Is there a way to only allow postings to a list from list members? In-Reply-To: References: <672B00A685D0D411AF32009027D638570183EFD0@mdfrouter2-eng.concord.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk Yeah, I've got one buried somewhere in one of my lists too. How did you find it...? At 02:08 PM 8.20.2001 -0400, Steven W. Orr wrote: >I just had a virus injected into a list from some spammer who forged >headers saying that he was from hahaha@sexyfun.com > >Is there a way to do this? > >TIA > >-- >-Time flies like the wind. Fruit flies like a banana. Stranger things have - >-happened but none stranger than this. Does your driver's license say Organ >-Donor?Black holes are where God divided by zero. Listen to me! We are all- >-individuals! What if this weren't a hypothetical question? steveo@syslang.net > > > > > Best regards, Jack L. Stone, Server Admin Sage-American http://www.sage-american.com jacks@sage-american.com From majordomo-users-owner Mon Aug 20 15:08:49 2001 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-980720-1) id OAA14199; Mon, 20 Aug 2001 14:54:36 -0700 (PDT) Received: from xrx-inc.com (mail.xrx-inc.com [12.13.116.226]) by honor.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 25EBD17E8B for ; Mon, 20 Aug 2001 14:54:29 -0700 (PDT) Received: from development (host49.xrx-inc.com [192.168.0.49]) by xrx-inc.com (8.11.1/8.11.1) with SMTP id f7KLsa600771 for ; Mon, 20 Aug 2001 16:54:36 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from timothy@xrx-inc.com) Message-ID: <007a01c129c1$80065490$3100a8c0@rapidnet.com> Reply-To: "timothy" From: "timothy" To: Subject: Uid problem... solved with hack. Date: Mon, 20 Aug 2001 16:45:59 -0500 Organization: xrx-inc unix MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0077_01C12997.971C7670" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2314.1300 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0077_01C12997.971C7670 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I suspect my problems deals with my installation.. I installed with uid majordomo gid daemon edited all the makefiles and .cf etc... installed the wrapper etc.. and everything runs fine. except resend and bounce came out as=20 root:daemon and when one unsubscribes it call chown($uid,$gid, ..) and it fails. with out completely reinstalling I=20 simply changed $uid to majordomo_uid=3D1001 and bingo it works just fine. so my hack was poor. I know but I can't not figure out where majordomo imports the variable values of $uid and $gid. It must be from resend or bounce and WHY they are root:daemon I have not a clue. Any info would help. I suspect I will have more problems as the digests = etc.. start growing. Thanks timothy@xrx-inc.com ------=_NextPart_000_0077_01C12997.971C7670 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
I suspect my problems deals with my=20 installation..
I installed with uid majordomo gid=20 daemon
edited all the makefiles and .cf=20 etc...
installed the wrapper = etc..
and everything runs fine.
except resend and bounce came out as =
root:daemon
 
and when one unsubscribes
it call chown($uid,$gid, = ..)
and it fails.
with out completely reinstalling I =
simply changed $uid to = majordomo_uid=3D1001 and=20 bingo
it works just fine.
so my hack was poor. I = know
but I can't not figure out where = majordomo imports=20 the variable values
of $uid and $gid.  It must be from = resend or=20 bounce and WHY they
are root:daemon I have not a = clue.
 
Any info would help. I suspect I will = have more=20 problems as the digests etc..
start growing.
Thanks
timothy@xrx-inc.com
 
------=_NextPart_000_0077_01C12997.971C7670-- From majordomo-users-owner Mon Aug 20 15:53:38 2001 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-980720-1) id PAA14723; Mon, 20 Aug 2001 15:44:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: from SvrDom01.cmaontheweb.com (unknown [204.252.239.230]) by honor.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B82AF17E8B for ; Mon, 20 Aug 2001 15:43:59 -0700 (PDT) To: majordomo-users@greatcircle.com Subject: config question MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Lotus Notes Release 5.0.7 March 21, 2001 Message-ID: From: jwesley@cmaontheweb.com Date: Mon, 20 Aug 2001 17:43:58 -0500 X-MIMETrack: Serialize by Router on SvrDom01/CMA(Release 5.0.8 |June 18, 2001) at 08/20/2001 05:43:58 PM, Serialize complete at 08/20/2001 05:43:58 PM Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk I have my list configured almost the way I want it. I used the following features reply_to =ben@cmaontheweb.com resend_host =cmaontheweb.com sender = ben But the emails I get still have the originator email address in it. here is what my mail client reads ******************************* jwesley@cmaontheweb.com Sent by: ben@cmaontheweb.com 08/20/2001 05:34 PM Please respond to ben ***************************** Can I remove "Please respond to ben" and jwesley@cmaontheweb? Thanks. Jeremy Wesley Web Designer-Flasher-ASP MCP I, MCSE I, MCDBA Cherbonnier Mayer & Associates Office 225.927.9200 X334 Pager 225.660.8778 www.cmaontheweb.com From majordomo-users-owner Mon Aug 20 16:09:36 2001 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-980720-1) id PAA14864; Mon, 20 Aug 2001 15:52:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: from redmailwall2.attws.com (unknown [199.108.253.116]) by honor.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 44EBA17E8B for ; Mon, 20 Aug 2001 15:52:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: from viruswall1.entp.attws.com (viruswall1 [135.214.40.161]) by redmailwall2.attws.com (8.10.2+Sun/8.9.3) with ESMTP id f7KMq0p07223; Mon, 20 Aug 2001 15:52:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nwestmail.entp.attws.com by viruswall1.entp.attws.com (8.8.8+Sun/AT&T Wireless Services, Inc.) id PAA24398; Mon, 20 Aug 2001 15:52:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: from netscape.com (dliston.nwest.attws.com [155.162.174.121]) by nwestmail.entp.attws.com (8.8.8+Sun/8.8.8) with ESMTP id PAA15733; Mon, 20 Aug 2001 15:51:59 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <3B819477.2C9023A3@netscape.com> Date: Mon, 20 Aug 2001 17:51:35 -0500 From: Daniel Liston Organization: iPlanet E-Commerce Solutions, A Sun Netscape Alliance X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.78 [en] (X11; U; Linux 2.4.2-2 i686) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: jwesley@cmaontheweb.com Cc: majordomo-users@GreatCircle.COM Subject: Re: EASY PROBLEM..i hope References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk Sendmail will still complain about "group writable" directories. Try 755 instead. Dan Liston jwesley@cmaontheweb.com wrote: > > I found the Answer ( 775) > > Jeremy Wesley > Web Designer-Flasher-ASP > MCP I, MCSE I, MCDBA > Cherbonnier Mayer & Associates > Office 225.927.9200 X334 > Pager 225.660.8778 > www.cmaontheweb.com > ----- Forwarded by Jeremy Wesley/CMA on 08/20/2001 01:48 PM ----- > > Jeremy Wesley > 08/20/2001 11:11 AM > > To: majordomo-users@greatcircle.com > cc: dliston@netscape.com > Subject: EASY PROBLEM..i hope > > Thanks to Daniel Liston I almost have my MD box setup. I have one small problem though.... > What are the permission's suppose to be on the lists dir? I was getting > bounce backs form the server saying that the list file was not readable, > so I chmod it to 777 then majordomo replied with "Returned mail: :include:/usr/lib/majordomo/lists/test ... Cannot open > /usr/lib/majordomo/lists/test: World writable directory" > yes I know 777 is not a good thing to be setting things to but I was just > trying to get it to work. I am so close to having this thing setup. > Thanks > Jeremy Wesley > Web Designer-Flasher-ASP > MCP I, MCSE I, MCDBA > Cherbonnier Mayer & Associates > Office 225.927.9200 X334 > Pager 225.660.8778 > www.cmaontheweb.com From majordomo-users-owner Tue Aug 21 06:31:13 2001 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-980720-1) id GAA06806; Tue, 21 Aug 2001 06:18:58 -0700 (PDT) Received: from delphi.aub.auc.dk (delphi.aub.auc.dk [130.225.53.13]) by honor.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 47ABE17E8B for ; Tue, 21 Aug 2001 06:18:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: by delphi.aub.auc.dk with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) id ; Tue, 21 Aug 2001 15:18:45 +0200 Message-ID: <0F0A1328A705D111858F00805F15FAD8B1798A@delphi.aub.auc.dk> From: Anders Hertz To: "'majordomo-users@greatcircle.com'" Subject: Error when using newconfig Date: Tue, 21 Aug 2001 15:18:45 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk Hiya New to the list, but already got a question. I=B4m currently testing out Majordomo 1.94.5 under SunOS 5.8. I use the config command to get the current configuration of a list. When i use "newconfig" command i get a mail back with this: >>>> newconfig joketoday The new config file for joketoday was NOT accepted because: unknown key |which| in file joketoday.new.config at line 29 unknown key |keyword.| in file joketoday.new.config at line 38 unknown key |>>>=20 Seems there is some kind of error in my config_parse.pl.=20 It can be saved by deleting the lines (in the mail) and then sending = it, but not a great solution (normal users will panic over this error which = means more work to me .-) ) So anybody got a clue or a patch or working copy of parse_config.pl .-) Best regards Anders Hertz Aalborg University Library Langagervej 2=20 DK-9220 Aalborg East Denmark From majordomo-users-owner Tue Aug 21 06:46:16 2001 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-980720-1) id GAA06949; Tue, 21 Aug 2001 06:39:18 -0700 (PDT) Received: from SvrDom01.cmaontheweb.com (unknown [204.252.239.230]) by honor.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 76C6517E8B for ; Tue, 21 Aug 2001 06:39:08 -0700 (PDT) To: "Roger B.A. Klorese" Cc: majordomo-users@GreatCircle.COM Subject: Re: config question MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Lotus Notes Release 5.0.7 March 21, 2001 Message-ID: From: jwesley@cmaontheweb.com Date: Tue, 21 Aug 2001 08:38:54 -0500 X-MIMETrack: Serialize by Router on SvrDom01/CMA(Release 5.0.8 |June 18, 2001) at 08/21/2001 08:39:08 AM, Serialize complete at 08/21/2001 08:39:08 AM Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk So there is no way to do what I want? Jeremy Wesley "Roger B.A. Klorese" 08/20/2001 06:37 PM To: cc: Subject: Re: config question sender doesn't replace the From: header. It sets the envelope sender. On Mon, 20 Aug 2001 jwesley@cmaontheweb.com wrote: > Date: Mon, 20 Aug 2001 17:43:58 -0500 > From: jwesley@cmaontheweb.com > To: majordomo-users@GreatCircle.COM > Subject: config question > > I have my list configured almost the way I want it. > I used the following features > reply_to =ben@cmaontheweb.com > resend_host =cmaontheweb.com > sender = ben > But the emails I get still have the originator email address in it. > here is what my mail client reads > ******************************* > jwesley@cmaontheweb.com > Sent by: ben@cmaontheweb.com > 08/20/2001 05:34 PM > Please respond to ben > ***************************** > Can I remove "Please respond to ben" and jwesley@cmaontheweb? > Thanks. > Jeremy Wesley > Web Designer-Flasher-ASP > MCP I, MCSE I, MCDBA > Cherbonnier Mayer & Associates > Office 225.927.9200 X334 > Pager 225.660.8778 > www.cmaontheweb.com > > ROGER B.A. KLORESE rogerk@QueerNet.ORG PO Box 14309 San Francisco, CA 94114 "Go without hate. But not without rage. Heal the world." -- Paul Monette From majordomo-users-owner Tue Aug 21 07:01:17 2001 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-980720-1) id GAA06927; Tue, 21 Aug 2001 06:38:06 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail.bcpl.net (mail.bcpl.net [204.255.212.10]) by honor.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 27F1E17E8B for ; Tue, 21 Aug 2001 06:37:58 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (fold@localhost) by mail.bcpl.net (8.11.3/8.11.3) with ESMTP id f7LDbtL12914 for ; Tue, 21 Aug 2001 09:37:56 -0400 (EDT) Date: Tue, 21 Aug 2001 09:37:55 -0400 (EDT) From: Chip Old To: MAJORDOMO-USERS Subject: Re: config question In-Reply-To: Message-ID: X-Organization: BCPL.NET Internet Services MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk On Mon, 20 Aug 2001 jwesley@cmaontheweb.com wrote: > I have my list configured almost the way I want it. I used the following > features > reply_to =ben@cmaontheweb.com > resend_host =cmaontheweb.com > sender = ben > But the emails I get still have the originator email address in it. > here is what my mail client reads > ******************************* > jwesley@cmaontheweb.com > Sent by: ben@cmaontheweb.com > 08/20/2001 05:34 PM > Please respond to ben > ***************************** > Can I remove "Please respond to ben" and jwesley@cmaontheweb? According to the header from your message, your mail client is Lotus Notes. The "Please respond to ben" is what Lotus Notes displays instead of the "Reply-to: ben@cmaontheweb.com" people with normal mail clients see. If you want to get rid of it, in list.config change "reply_to = ben@cmaontheweb.com" to "reply_to =". The primary use of the "reply_to" directive in list.config is to force replies to go to the whole list instead of just to the original poster. If you don't need that feature, then leave "reply_to" blank in list.config. Messages sent to the list will always show the original poster's address on the "From:" line (jwesley@cmaontheweb.com in this case). The directive "sender = ben" in the list.config file doesn't change that behavior. It's used by Resend for a "Sender:" header (which is not the same as "From:") in the outgoing messages, and by Majordomo as the "From:" address for the welcome message sent out in response to new subscriptions. If I remember correctly, altering the "From:" address on a message to show someone other than the original poster violates some RFC, so Majordomo doesn't do it. If you want all your outgoing messages to show "ben@cmaontheweb.com" on the "From:" line, you'll need to hack Resend. IMHO it's a bad idea, because people reading messages on the list will never know who wrote them. -- Chip Old (Francis E. Old) E-Mail: fold@bcpl.net Manager, BCPL Network Services Phone: 410-887-6180 Manager, BCPL.NET Internet Services FAX: 410-887-2091 320 York Road Towson, MD 21204 USA From majordomo-users-owner Tue Aug 21 08:46:11 2001 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-980720-1) id IAA08126; Tue, 21 Aug 2001 08:32:19 -0700 (PDT) Received: from castro.queernet.org (castro.queernet.org [209.157.101.253]) by honor.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 11C3817E8B for ; Tue, 21 Aug 2001 08:32:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (rogerk@localhost) by castro.queernet.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) with ESMTP id f7LFWB109459 Date: Tue, 21 Aug 2001 08:32:10 -0700 (PDT) From: "Roger B.A. Klorese" To: Cc: Subject: Re: config question In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk On Tue, 21 Aug 2001 jwesley@cmaontheweb.com wrote: > So there is no way to do what I want? If you're trying to replace the From: header with the list's name, you could possibly do it by hacking the Perl code. But it will almost guarantee that you'll have mail loops from badly-behaved mailers. -- ROGER B.A. KLORESE rogerk@QueerNet.ORG PO Box 14309 San Francisco, CA 94114 "Go without hate. But not without rage. Heal the world." -- Paul Monette From majordomo-users-owner Tue Aug 21 09:16:12 2001 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-980720-1) id IAA08466; Tue, 21 Aug 2001 08:59:11 -0700 (PDT) Received: from castro.queernet.org (castro.queernet.org [209.157.101.253]) by honor.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id BEF0617E8B for ; Tue, 21 Aug 2001 08:59:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (rogerk@localhost) by castro.queernet.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) with ESMTP id f7LFx6a10322 Date: Tue, 21 Aug 2001 08:59:06 -0700 (PDT) From: "Roger B.A. Klorese" To: Cc: Subject: Re: config question In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk On Tue, 21 Aug 2001 jwesley@cmaontheweb.com wrote: > Well my list is a private list. Its more of a mailing list for a > newsletter, not a list server type of list. So is there a tutorial on > what to change in the perl code? No, there isn't. (And you'll still drown your subscribers if you hit a mail loop.) -- ROGER B.A. KLORESE rogerk@QueerNet.ORG PO Box 14309 San Francisco, CA 94114 "Go without hate. But not without rage. Heal the world." -- Paul Monette From majordomo-users-owner Tue Aug 21 09:31:11 2001 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-980720-1) id IAA08452; Tue, 21 Aug 2001 08:57:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: from SvrDom01.cmaontheweb.com (unknown [204.252.239.230]) by honor.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1EF5817E8B for ; Tue, 21 Aug 2001 08:57:52 -0700 (PDT) To: "Roger B.A. Klorese" Cc: majordomo-users@GreatCircle.COM Subject: Re: config question MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Lotus Notes Release 5.0.7 March 21, 2001 Message-ID: From: jwesley@cmaontheweb.com Date: Tue, 21 Aug 2001 10:57:48 -0500 X-MIMETrack: Serialize by Router on SvrDom01/CMA(Release 5.0.8 |June 18, 2001) at 08/21/2001 10:57:51 AM, Serialize complete at 08/21/2001 10:57:51 AM Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk Well my list is a private list. Its more of a mailing list for a newsletter, not a list server type of list. So is there a tutorial on what to change in the perl code? Jeremy Wesley "Roger B.A. Klorese" 08/21/2001 10:32 AM To: cc: Subject: Re: config question On Tue, 21 Aug 2001 jwesley@cmaontheweb.com wrote: > So there is no way to do what I want? If you're trying to replace the From: header with the list's name, you could possibly do it by hacking the Perl code. But it will almost guarantee that you'll have mail loops from badly-behaved mailers. -- ROGER B.A. KLORESE rogerk@QueerNet.ORG PO Box 14309 San Francisco, CA 94114 "Go without hate. But not without rage. Heal the world." -- Paul Monette From majordomo-users-owner Tue Aug 21 10:31:11 2001 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-980720-1) id KAA09456; Tue, 21 Aug 2001 10:26:49 -0700 (PDT) Received: from legpdc.legendent.com (unknown [38.201.159.130]) by honor.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1C7E917E8B for ; Tue, 21 Aug 2001 10:26:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: from DBECK ([38.201.159.174]) by legpdc.legendent.com with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service Version 5.5.2650.21) id Q6F01AAG; Tue, 21 Aug 2001 13:24:59 -0400 Message-ID: <003701c12a66$709183e0$ae9fc926@legendent.com> From: "Duane Beck" To: "Anders Hertz" , References: <0F0A1328A705D111858F00805F15FAD8B1798A@delphi.aub.auc.dk> Subject: Re: Error when using newconfig Date: Tue, 21 Aug 2001 13:26:35 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk > I use the config command to get the current configuration of a list. > When i use "newconfig" command i get a mail back with this: >=20 > >>>> newconfig joketoday > The new config file for joketoday was NOT accepted because: > unknown key |which| in file joketoday.new.config at line 29 > unknown key |keyword.| in file joketoday.new.config at line 38 > unknown key | unknown key |/open;closed| in file joketoday.new.config at line 331 > unknown key |/open;closed;auto;op| in file joketoday.new.config at = line 357 > >>>>=20 >=20 > Seems there is some kind of error in my config_parse.pl.=20 > It can be saved by deleting the lines (in the mail) and then sending = it, but > not a great solution (normal users will panic over this error which = means > more work to me .-) ) >=20 > So anybody got a clue or a patch or working copy of parse_config.pl = .-) I've gotten this error before when my e-mail client wrapped lines in the = configuration. Is this what's happening? Try sending the config to = yourself and see if it's wrapped inappropriately. If that's the case, you can try adjusting the wrap width setting for = your e-mail client, or manually rewrap the configuration so that all = lines are shorter than your e-mail client's wrap width. Duane Beck From majordomo-users-owner Tue Aug 21 11:16:12 2001 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-980720-1) id LAA10008; Tue, 21 Aug 2001 11:12:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: from shell7.ba.best.com (shell7.ba.best.com [206.184.139.138]) by honor.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 89D3F17E8B for ; Tue, 21 Aug 2001 11:12:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from cnorman@localhost) by shell7.ba.best.com (8.9.3/8.9.2/best.sh) id LAA25136; Tue, 21 Aug 2001 11:12:02 -0700 (PDT) Date: Tue, 21 Aug 2001 11:12:02 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <200108211812.LAA25136@shell7.ba.best.com> From: Cyndi Norman To: hawthorne@cybervpm.com Cc: majordomo-users@GreatCircle.COM, cnorman@best.com In-reply-to: Subject: Re: Easy one for you (message moderation) Reply-To: cnorman@best.com Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk From: "Nan Hawthorne" Date: Fri, 17 Aug 2001 10:11:37 -0700 Here's an easy one for you. How do I change the config file on a moderated list so the messages appear to come from the original sender? Actually, it's not part of the config file. You do this as part of moderation. Unless I am misunderstanding your problem. A message comes in to me for moderation. I hit "forward." I add my header on top (insert a premade file), get rid of the forwarding header, edit out some other crud, and then edit the original message if desired (like if they quoted too much of a previous message or the formatting is off, I also change subject lines to be informative). Send it off. Here's an example. Say I wanted to send your message to my Immune mailing list. Note that "--text follows this line--" is the way my mailer tells the difference between header and body. Basically, anything above there is header and the rest is part of the body. The MD software will do the right thing with it. Leave a blank line between the header you want and the body you want. To: immune@immuneweb.org Subject: Reply-to: immune@best.com --text follows this line-- Approved: password Date: Tue, 21 Aug 2001 09:50:35 -0700 From: hawthorne@cybervpm.com To: immune@immuneweb.org Subject: Re: Easy one for you Here's an easy one for you. How do I change the config file on a moderated list so the messages appear to come from the original sender? Make sense? Cyndi -- _______________________________________________________________________________ "There's nothing wrong with me. Maybe there's Cyndi Norman something wrong with the universe." (ST:TNG) cyndi@consultclarity.com http://www.tikvah.com/ _________________ Owner of the Immune Website & Lists http://www.immuneweb.org/ From majordomo-users-owner Tue Aug 21 11:46:20 2001 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-980720-1) id LAA10182; Tue, 21 Aug 2001 11:27:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: from SvrDom01.cmaontheweb.com (unknown [204.252.239.230]) by honor.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4E82417EB6 for ; Tue, 21 Aug 2001 11:27:24 -0700 (PDT) To: Chip Old Cc: MAJORDOMO-USERS Subject: Re: config question MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Lotus Notes Release 5.0.7 March 21, 2001 Message-ID: From: jwesley@cmaontheweb.com Date: Tue, 21 Aug 2001 13:27:21 -0500 X-MIMETrack: Serialize by Router on SvrDom01/CMA(Release 5.0.8 |June 18, 2001) at 08/21/2001 01:27:23 PM, Serialize complete at 08/21/2001 01:27:23 PM Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk I know what you might be thinking, I am trying to Spam with my list servers, well not really The list is people that have asked to be on the list. For updates on events etc. I am not going to try to Spam the world, I hate those things. The only reason I want to make it appear someone else sent it is because we didn't want them to see out email address and respond directly to the post , but for them to respond to a specific mail box someone else manages. yes we set the reply_to setting and all that. so I guess this is as far as we can go on it.. Is there something better that I should be using? Thanks For all your help. Jeremy Wesley Web Designer-Flasher-ASP MCP I, MCSE I, MCDBA Cherbonnier Mayer & Associates Office 225.927.9200 X334 Pager 225.660.8778 www.cmaontheweb.com Chip Old Sent by: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM 08/21/2001 08:37 AM To: MAJORDOMO-USERS cc: Subject: Re: config question On Mon, 20 Aug 2001 jwesley@cmaontheweb.com wrote: > I have my list configured almost the way I want it. I used the following > features > reply_to =ben@cmaontheweb.com > resend_host =cmaontheweb.com > sender = ben > But the emails I get still have the originator email address in it. > here is what my mail client reads > ******************************* > jwesley@cmaontheweb.com > Sent by: ben@cmaontheweb.com > 08/20/2001 05:34 PM > Please respond to ben > ***************************** > Can I remove "Please respond to ben" and jwesley@cmaontheweb? According to the header from your message, your mail client is Lotus Notes. The "Please respond to ben" is what Lotus Notes displays instead of the "Reply-to: ben@cmaontheweb.com" people with normal mail clients see. If you want to get rid of it, in list.config change "reply_to = ben@cmaontheweb.com" to "reply_to =". The primary use of the "reply_to" directive in list.config is to force replies to go to the whole list instead of just to the original poster. If you don't need that feature, then leave "reply_to" blank in list.config. Messages sent to the list will always show the original poster's address on the "From:" line (jwesley@cmaontheweb.com in this case). The directive "sender = ben" in the list.config file doesn't change that behavior. It's used by Resend for a "Sender:" header (which is not the same as "From:") in the outgoing messages, and by Majordomo as the "From:" address for the welcome message sent out in response to new subscriptions. If I remember correctly, altering the "From:" address on a message to show someone other than the original poster violates some RFC, so Majordomo doesn't do it. If you want all your outgoing messages to show "ben@cmaontheweb.com" on the "From:" line, you'll need to hack Resend. IMHO it's a bad idea, because people reading messages on the list will never know who wrote them. -- Chip Old (Francis E. Old) E-Mail: fold@bcpl.net Manager, BCPL Network Services Phone: 410-887-6180 Manager, BCPL.NET Internet Services FAX: 410-887-2091 320 York Road Towson, MD 21204 USA From majordomo-users-owner Tue Aug 21 16:01:12 2001 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-980720-1) id PAA12893; Tue, 21 Aug 2001 15:47:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nugget.corecom.net (nugget.corecom.net [216.47.3.21]) by honor.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8680417E8B for ; Tue, 21 Aug 2001 15:46:53 -0700 (PDT) Received: from poppy.ahfc.state.ak.us (poppy.ahfc.state.ak.us [205.159.28.20]) by nugget.corecom.net (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f7LMs1B15929 for ; Tue, 21 Aug 2001 14:54:02 -0800 (AKDT) Message-ID: <79b872d91bb755f0002f67c663ff5cd73b82e48d@ahfc.state.ak.us> Date: Tue, 21 Aug 2001 14:47:31 -0800 From: Marc Grober MIME-Version: 1.0 To: jwesley@cmaontheweb.com Cc: majordomo-users@GreatCircle.COM Subject: Re: config question References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk seems to me you should be able to change the sendmail command so that the -f flag points to the list (either in /etc/aliases or via resend. Then for the same of convention you could add other headers................. like you did in the config file.......... marc jwesley@cmaontheweb.com wrote: > I have my list configured almost the way I want it. > I used the following features > reply_to =ben@cmaontheweb.com > resend_host =cmaontheweb.com > sender = ben > But the emails I get still have the originator email address in it. > here is what my mail client reads > ******************************* > jwesley@cmaontheweb.com > Sent by: ben@cmaontheweb.com > 08/20/2001 05:34 PM > Please respond to ben > ***************************** > Can I remove "Please respond to ben" and jwesley@cmaontheweb? > Thanks. > Jeremy Wesley > Web Designer-Flasher-ASP > MCP I, MCSE I, MCDBA > Cherbonnier Mayer & Associates > Office 225.927.9200 X334 > Pager 225.660.8778 > www.cmaontheweb.com From majordomo-users-owner Tue Aug 21 16:46:15 2001 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-980720-1) id QAA13445; Tue, 21 Aug 2001 16:40:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: from cassy.amisysdatanet.com (h24-68-46-186.vc.shawcable.net [24.68.46.186]) by honor.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E191917EB8 for ; Tue, 21 Aug 2001 16:39:53 -0700 (PDT) Received: from guylancaster.com ([172.16.3.253]) by cassy.amisysdatanet.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id QAA15585; Tue, 21 Aug 2001 16:55:22 -0700 Message-ID: <3B82F37C.CB66EAD3@guylancaster.com> Date: Tue, 21 Aug 2001 16:49:16 -0700 From: Guy Lancaster Organization: http://www.guylancaster.com X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.61 [en]C-AtHome0407 (WinNT; U) X-Accept-Language: en,pdf MIME-Version: 1.0 To: jwesley@cmaontheweb.com Cc: MAJORDOMO-USERS Subject: Re: Changing the from: address (was: config question) References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk jwesley@cmaontheweb.com wrote: > I am not going to try to Spam the world, I hate those things. The only > reason I want to make it appear someone else sent it is because we didn't > want them to see out email address and respond directly to the post , but > for them to respond to a specific mail box someone else manages. yes we > set the reply_to setting and all that. so I guess this is as far as we can > go on it.. > Is there something better that I should be using? This is most properly an email client issue. You might try just changing your email address in your email client before sending out the newsletter. This works for me for occasional postings. :-) Guy -- Guy Lancaster Computer Consultants http://guylancaster.com From majordomo-users-owner Tue Aug 21 19:16:12 2001 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-980720-1) id SAA14814; Tue, 21 Aug 2001 18:58:41 -0700 (PDT) Received: from redmailwall2.attws.com (redmailwall2.attws.com [199.108.253.116]) by honor.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 11F2017EBA for ; Tue, 21 Aug 2001 18:58:29 -0700 (PDT) Received: from viruswall.entp.attws.com (viruswall [135.214.42.163]) by redmailwall2.attws.com (8.10.2+Sun/8.9.3) with ESMTP id f7M1wH616563; Tue, 21 Aug 2001 18:58:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nwestmail.entp.attws.com by viruswall.entp.attws.com (8.8.8+Sun/AT&T Wireless Services, Inc.) id SAA26941; Tue, 21 Aug 2001 18:58:19 -0700 (PDT) Received: from netscape.com (dliston.nwest.attws.com [155.162.174.143]) by nwestmail.entp.attws.com (8.8.8+Sun/8.8.8) with ESMTP id SAA06890; Tue, 21 Aug 2001 18:58:19 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <3B8311A5.8296F779@netscape.com> Date: Tue, 21 Aug 2001 20:57:57 -0500 From: Daniel Liston Organization: iPlanet E-Commerce Solutions, A Sun Netscape Alliance X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.78 [en] (X11; U; Linux 2.4.2-2 i686) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Anthony Gonzalez Cc: hou@fiu.edu, mariam@fiu.edu, Majordomo Users Subject: Re: Digest question References: <20010820122416.WQH24646.spn19c0@[10.10.20.19]> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk Hi Anthony, Comments inline, and copied to majordomo-users list. Anthony Gonzalez wrote: > > Daniel, > Good morning! > > Hi. Hope you can can help. We are running Majordomo version 1.94.4. > We have been trying to set up a digest list. We have read the O'Reilly > book on "Mailing Lists" and we have read numerous articles about how to > set up a digest. After attempting everything, our digest is not > working. > Here's what we have done. Any help would be greatly appreciated!!! > > 1. We created two lists: oes2-test and oes2-test-digest following > normal procedures for a new mailing list. Some detail in this area would clarify things for me. "Normal" is very vague. What I consider "normal" is to login or su to the majordomo account, go to the lists directory, and touch oes2-test and oes2-test-digest. Then create aliases. More on this under item #2. > > 2. We modified our aliases file to look as follows: > > oes2-test: "|/usr/local/majordomo/wrapper resend -s -l oes2-test -f oes2-test-owner -h fiu.edu oes2-test-list" Forget the "-s", "-f oes2-test-owner", and "-h fiu.edu" in the alias above and set them in the oes2-test.config file. Here are the equivalent settings; administrivia = yes sender = oes2-test-owner resend_host = fiu.edu > oes2-test-list: :include:/usr/local/majordomo/lists/oes2-test, "|/usr/local/majordomo/wrapper digest -r -C -l oes2-test-digest > oes2-test-digest-list" Two things here, 1. Digests have a dependency on archives. 2. Utilizing the power of aliases can make lines more readable. example; oes2-test-list: :include:/usr/local/majordomo/lists/oes2-test,oes2-test-archiver,oes2-test-digestify oes2-test-archiver: "|/usr/local/majordomo/wrapper archive2.pl -f /usr/local/majordomo/archives/oes2-test/oes2-test -a -M" oes2-test-digestify: "|/usr/local/majordomo/wrapper digest -r -C -l oes2-test-digest oes2-test-digest-list" You are/were missing the archiver portion. The archiver alias has a dependency on the following settings in majordomo.cf $homedir = "/usr/local/majordomo"; $filedir = "$homedir/archives"; $filedir_suffix = ""; Subdirectories of the above must be created named oes2-test and oes2-test-digest. Comments on creating directories and setting permissions in item #4 The digestify alias has a dependency on these majordomo.cf settings $digest_work_dir = "/usr/local/majordomo/digests"; A subdirectory of the above must be created named oes2-test-digest. Comments on creating directories and setting permissions in item #4 > owner-oes2-test: mariam@fiu.edu > oes2-test-owner: owner-oes2-test > oes2-test-request: "|/usr/local/majordomo/wrapper majordomo -l oes2-test" Above has a dependency on "$majordomo_request = 1;" in /etc/majordomo.cf > oes2-test-approval: owner-oes2-test > > oes2-test-digest: oes2-test > oes2-test-digest-list: :include:/usr/local/majordomo/lists/oes2-test-digest > owner-oes2-test-digest: owner-oes2-test > oes2-test-digest-owner: owner-oes2-test > oes2-test-digest-request: "|/usr/local/majordomo/wrapper majordomo -l oes2-test-digest" Above has a dependency on "$majordomo_request = 1;" in /etc/majordomo.cf > oes2-test-digest-approval: owner-oes2-test > > 3. We looked in our majordomo.cf file for the imporant variables and > their definitions and found the following: > > $digest_work_dir = "/usr/local/mail/digest" See note above... I recommend keeping this in the majordomo $HOME directory heirarchy. $digest_work_dir = "/usr/local/majordomo/digests"; > $filedir = "$listdir" > $listdir = "$homedir/lists" > $homedir = "/usr/local/majordomo" > $filedir_suffix = ".archive" The rest of this is good. Make sure the lines end in ";" Make sure all directories are owned by majordomo and they are writable by majordomo, but nobody else. And make sure your aliases reflect these locations. > > 4. We then created the following directories: > > /usr/local/mail/digest/oes2-test-digest > /usr/local/majordomo/lists/oes2-test-digest.archive > > They are both owned by "majordomo" and majordomo can write to them. 755 root:root / 755 root:root /usr 755 root:root /usr/local 751 majordom:majordom /usr/local/majordomo 750 majordom:majordom /usr/local/majordomo/archives 751 majordom:majordom /usr/local/majordomo/archives/oes2-test 751 majordom:majordom /usr/local/majordomo/archives/oes2-test-digest 750 majordom:majordom /usr/local/majordomo/digests 755 majordom:majordom /usr/local/majordomo/digests/oes2-test-digest 750 majordom:majordom /usr/local/majordomo/lists > > 5. We modified the oes2-test-digest.config file and changed the > following > parameters: > > digest_issue=1 > digest_volume=1 > digest_maxdays=1 > digest_maxlines=5 > maxlength=2000000 Maxlines seems a bit short, but for testing purposes, ok. > > 6. We then attempted to test the digest. I sent a one-line message > to oes2-test (to which I am not subscribed anymore, but I am subscribed > to the oes2-test-digest mailing list) and received no e-mail. I then > attempted > to send a second e-mail with more than 10 lines, and still get no > e-mail. If you have enabled the "restrict_post" setting in oes2-test.config, make sure it includes oes2-test-digest. Since your digest_work_dir is not in the majordomo home directory, make sure it is owned and writable by majordomo. Do the same for subdirectories too. I would prefer for the sake of troubleshooting, that you follow my examples above instead though. > > 7. When we check in the > /usr/local/majordomo/lists/oes2-test-digest.archive > and in the /usr/local/mail/digest/oes2-test-digest directories, we find > no files. > (Isn't majordomo supposed to start keeping these files here?) Not until it actually creates a digest and sends it out. Individual messages are stored in $digest_work_dir/$list-digest as 001, 002, 003... Digested messages are stored in $filedir/$list$filedir_suffix/$list-digest/volume.sequencenumber, probably /usr/local/majordomo/lists/oes2-test-digest.archive/oes2-test-digest/v01.n001 Then again, I do not archive the digests, I archive the list. The digest itself creates sort of an archive of it's own like... /usr/local/majordomo/archives/oes2-test-digest/v01.n001 > > 8. Also, we are not sure where to go to look at a Log of what is going > wrong. > Any ideas where the Majordomo Log is kept? We found a Log file > in $homedir/Log but it only shows commands that our users are > sending to Majordomo (like unsubscribes, etc.). We cannot find a log > showing > what is going wrong with our digest. Set "debug = 1;" in majordomo.cf, then look in /tmp for majordomo.debug and resend.debug files. > > 9. We also tried sending majordomo the "mkdigest > command > but we get this error message back: This should actually be... mkdigest Majordomo expects your delivery alias to have a -outgoing suffix to the list name. In your case, oes2-test-digest would have oes2-test-digest-outgoing instead of what you have now. (oes2-test-digest-list) > > >>>> mkdigest oes2-test [snip] > mj_digest: ABORT > Can't create new config file > /usr/local/majordomo-1.94.4/lists/oes2-test.config > The syntax above is incorrect. When you use anything other than $list-digest-outgoing, you must use the name of the alias your are sending to in your mkdigest command. mkdigest oes2-test-digest oes2-test-digest-list > Why is majordomo trying to create a new config file when that already > exists? I am not sure this is really what is happening. Try the configs and examples I provided and let us (majordomo-users) know how it worked out. Dan Liston From majordomo-users-owner Wed Aug 22 00:30:10 2001 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-980720-1) id AAA17630; Wed, 22 Aug 2001 00:26:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: from za14nt02.mweb.com (za14nt02.mweb.co.za [196.2.142.131]) by honor.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 01FBB17EBB for ; Wed, 22 Aug 2001 00:24:43 -0700 (PDT) Received: by za14nt02.mweb.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id ; Wed, 22 Aug 2001 09:22:06 +0200 Message-ID: <594C1E8DEC9CD4118B4E009027425D006379AE@za14nt03.mweb.com> From: Chris Grigor To: "Majordomo (E-mail)" Subject: question Date: Wed, 22 Aug 2001 09:21:45 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk Hi Im running majordomo 1.94.5 on Redhat 7.1 and Im having a problem with it displaying what lists are available. Example when I send mail to majordomo@mydomain.com and in the body I put lists, it mails majordomo and the body says lists ....how can I get it to display the lists ?? Also when someone susbcribes to a list it sends them a confirmation and when they reply how do you get majordomo to automatically add them ( at the moment it gets mailed to me and I have to add them manually) Thanks in advance Chris Grigor ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- -------------- Client Services - 2nd line Support Call Center: 0860 100 154 Fax: +27 11 340 7345 E-Mail: Support@Bus-Sol.co.za ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- -------------- M-WEB Business Solutions Making it happen. Go shopping @ http://shopping.mweb.co.za Get your business online @ http://business.mweb.com From majordomo-users-owner Wed Aug 22 04:20:25 2001 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-980720-1) id DAA22068; Wed, 22 Aug 2001 03:25:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: from reserve.guest-tek.com (unknown [12.104.66.2]) by honor.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9CB1417EBA for ; Wed, 22 Aug 2001 03:25:35 -0700 (PDT) Received: from netscape.com ([192.168.1.100]) by reserve.guest-tek.com (8.9.3/8.8.7) with ESMTP id DAA01955; Wed, 22 Aug 2001 03:24:33 -0700 Message-ID: <3B83884C.52229366@netscape.com> Date: Wed, 22 Aug 2001 05:24:12 -0500 From: Daniel Liston Organization: iPlanet E-Commerce Solutions, A Sun Netscape Alliance X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.78 [en] (X11; U; Linux 2.4.2-2 i686) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Chris Grigor Cc: "Majordomo (E-mail)" Subject: Re: question References: <594C1E8DEC9CD4118B4E009027425D006379AE@za14nt03.mweb.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk Chris Grigor wrote: > > I'm running majordomo 1.94.5 on Redhat 7.1 and I'm having a problem with it > displaying what lists are available. > > Example when I send mail to majordomo@mydomain.com and in the body I put > lists, it mails majordomo and the body says lists ....how can I get it to > display the lists ?? > If your listname.config files have "advertise" set to an impossible key, noone will be able to see any of your lists, or if you have "noadvertise" set to a wildcard, only pre-subscribed users will be able to see the lists. > Also when someone susbcribes to a list it sends them a confirmation and when > they reply how do you get majordomo to automatically add them ( at the moment > it gets mailed to me and I have to add them manually) > This sounds like you have your subscribe_policy = closed and moderated = yes. If so, majordomo is doing what you told it to in regards to subscribing users. Dan Liston From majordomo-users-owner Wed Aug 22 04:50:13 2001 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-980720-1) id EAA23060; Wed, 22 Aug 2001 04:33:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: from za14nt02.mweb.com (za14nt02.mweb.co.za [196.2.142.131]) by honor.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B028D17EBA for ; Wed, 22 Aug 2001 04:33:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: by za14nt02.mweb.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id ; Wed, 22 Aug 2001 13:31:00 +0200 Message-ID: <594C1E8DEC9CD4118B4E009027425D006379C8@za14nt03.mweb.com> From: Chris Grigor To: "Majordomo (E-mail)" Subject: RE: question Date: Wed, 22 Aug 2001 13:30:38 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk Okay like an idiot I forgot to do a symbolic link from /etc/smrsh/wrapper to /usr/local/majord/wrapper Now all is working !!! :-) -----Original Message----- From: Chris Grigor Sent: Wednesday, August 22, 2001 9:22 AM To: Majordomo (E-mail) Subject: question Hi Im running majordomo 1.94.5 on Redhat 7.1 and Im having a problem with it displaying what lists are available. Example when I send mail to majordomo@mydomain.com and in the body I put lists, it mails majordomo and the body says lists ....how can I get it to display the lists ?? Also when someone susbcribes to a list it sends them a confirmation and when they reply how do you get majordomo to automatically add them ( at the moment it gets mailed to me and I have to add them manually) Thanks in advance Chris Grigor ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- -------------- Client Services - 2nd line Support Call Center: 0860 100 154 Fax: +27 11 340 7345 E-Mail: Support@Bus-Sol.co.za ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- -------------- M-WEB Business Solutions Making it happen. Go shopping @ http://shopping.mweb.co.za Get your business online @ http://business.mweb.com From majordomo-users-owner Wed Aug 22 08:28:58 2001 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-980720-1) id IAA25616; Wed, 22 Aug 2001 08:04:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: from netscape.com (r2d2.netscape.com [205.217.237.47]) by honor.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E70E317EBA for ; Wed, 22 Aug 2001 08:04:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: from judge.mcom.com (judge.mcom.com [205.217.237.53]) by netscape.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with ESMTP id f7MF4Hs13827 for ; Wed, 22 Aug 2001 08:04:17 -0700 (PDT) Received: from netscape.com ([205.217.228.115]) by judge.mcom.com (Netscape Messaging Server 4.15) with ESMTP id GIH5V500.U41; Wed, 22 Aug 2001 08:04:17 -0700 Message-ID: <3B83C9DD.BDD79F92@netscape.com> Date: Wed, 22 Aug 2001 10:03:57 -0500 From: dliston@netscape.com (Dan Liston) Organization: iPlanet eCommerce Solutions, A Sun-Netscape Alliance X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.78 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Anders Hertz Cc: "'majordomo-users@greatcircle.com'" Subject: Re: Error when using newconfig References: <0F0A1328A705D111858F00805F15FAD8B1798A@delphi.aub.auc.dk> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk This means your mail client "wrapped" long lines to a length less than 80 characters when you sent your new configuration file to majordomo. Turn off line wrapping and try again. This is NOT a problem with config_parse.pl, it is a setting in your email client. Dan Liston Anders Hertz wrote: > > Hiya > > New to the list, but already got a question. > > I´m currently testing out Majordomo 1.94.5 under SunOS 5.8. > > I use the config command to get the current configuration of a list. > When i use "newconfig" command i get a mail back with this: > > >>>> newconfig joketoday > The new config file for joketoday was NOT accepted because: > unknown key |which| in file joketoday.new.config at line 29 > unknown key |keyword.| in file joketoday.new.config at line 38 > unknown key | unknown key |/open;closed| in file joketoday.new.config at line 331 > unknown key |/open;closed;auto;op| in file joketoday.new.config at line 357 > >>>> > > Seems there is some kind of error in my config_parse.pl. > It can be saved by deleting the lines (in the mail) and then sending it, but > not a great solution (normal users will panic over this error which means > more work to me .-) ) > > So anybody got a clue or a patch or working copy of parse_config.pl .-) > > Best regards > Anders Hertz > Aalborg University Library > Langagervej 2 > DK-9220 Aalborg East > Denmark From majordomo-users-owner Wed Aug 22 08:52:50 2001 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-980720-1) id IAA25842; Wed, 22 Aug 2001 08:29:58 -0700 (PDT) Received: from postoffice.mail.cornell.edu (postoffice.mail.cornell.edu [132.236.56.7]) by honor.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id DACAA17EBA for ; Wed, 22 Aug 2001 08:29:40 -0700 (PDT) Received: from Alexbrother.cornell.edu ([128.253.78.68]) by postoffice.mail.cornell.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA26343 for ; Wed, 22 Aug 2001 11:29:36 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <5.0.1.4.2.20010822103731.0193eae0@postoffice.mail.cornell.edu> X-Sender: gwl1@postoffice.mail.cornell.edu (Unverified) X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.0.1 Date: Wed, 22 Aug 2001 11:29:14 -0400 To: majordomo-users@GreatCircle.COM From: Greg Lawrence Subject: Novice problem with world writable directories error Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk Hello All: The bane of novice majordomo users is the permissions glitch. I've got mine. For a test list, this is part of the error message: 550 :include:/usr/local/majordom/lists/test... Cannot open /usr/local/majordom/lists/test: World writable directory Message delivered to mailing list test-out 554 test-out... aliasing/forwarding loop broken Message delivered to mailing list owner-test@bigdaddy.mannlib.cornell.edu System facts: MD 1.94 Redhat 6.2 perl 5.00503 I've checked majordomo using the config-test. I did the test as a user other then root or majordom. The test checked out ok. I've checked the FAQ. Item 2.12 - I get "aliasing/forwarding loop broken" suggests problems with the directory permissions. This is the symptom my system is experiencing. At this time my directory permissions are: 755 root:root / 755 root:root /usr 755 root:root /usr/local 777 majordom:majordom /usr/local/majordomo 777 majordom:majordom /usr/local/majordomo/lists At this time, I'm assuming my directories are world writable. Can anyone suggest another approach to this problem? Thanks. Greg From majordomo-users-owner Wed Aug 22 10:24:00 2001 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-980720-1) id KAA26844; Wed, 22 Aug 2001 10:09:55 -0700 (PDT) Received: from www.intexexhibits.com (unknown [63.82.99.146]) by honor.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A86EF17EBA for ; Wed, 22 Aug 2001 10:09:48 -0700 (PDT) Received: from 192 (user147.intexexhibits.com [63.82.99.147] (may be forged)) by www.intexexhibits.com (8.11.3/8.11.3) with SMTP id f7MH9rK06064 for ; Wed, 22 Aug 2001 10:09:53 -0700 Reply-To: From: "Jonathan Ziring" To: "majordomo-users@GreatCircle. COM" Subject: Post Messages Date: Wed, 22 Aug 2001 10:09:29 -0700 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk I have been trying to post messages to your list for a while now and haven't seen any response. Have they been going through and I'm just not getting coppied or what? -Jon From majordomo-users-owner Wed Aug 22 13:51:24 2001 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-980720-1) id NAA28971; Wed, 22 Aug 2001 13:39:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: from xrx-inc.com (mail.xrx-inc.com [12.13.116.226]) by honor.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9120E17E8B for ; Wed, 22 Aug 2001 13:39:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from timothy@localhost) by xrx-inc.com (8.11.1/8.11.1) id f7MKdEX19349; Wed, 22 Aug 2001 15:39:14 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from timothy) Date: Wed, 22 Aug 2001 15:39:14 -0500 (CDT) From: Tim the Unix Hack Message-Id: <200108222039.f7MKdEX19349@xrx-inc.com> To: gwl1@cornell.edu, majordomo-users@GreatCircle.COM Subject: Re: Novice problem with world writable directories error In-Reply-To: <5.0.1.4.2.20010822103731.0193eae0@postoffice.mail.cornell.edu> Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk I found out that sendmail.cf has a trusted user spot that says :include: are not to be too liberally set meaning. make the include 'tight' enough so that it is no world or group writable and sendmail is happy but have the permission good enough so that majodomo can access! Tim From majordomo-users-owner Wed Aug 22 14:06:22 2001 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-980720-1) id NAA28966; Wed, 22 Aug 2001 13:38:38 -0700 (PDT) Received: from odyssey.lambesis.com (unknown [207.211.73.13]) by honor.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7E01B17E8B for ; Wed, 22 Aug 2001 13:38:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [207.211.73.165] ([207.211.73.165]) by odyssey.lambesis.com (8.11.0/8.11.0) with ESMTP id f7MKY6R03737; Wed, 22 Aug 2001 13:34:06 -0700 Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Sender: jpbuse@mail.lambesis.com Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <5.0.1.4.2.20010822103731.0193eae0@postoffice.mail.cornell.edu> References: <5.0.1.4.2.20010822103731.0193eae0@postoffice.mail.cornell.edu> Date: Wed, 22 Aug 2001 13:38:26 -0700 To: Greg Lawrence From: Jason Buscema Subject: Re: Novice problem with world writable directories error Cc: majordomo-users@GreatCircle.COM Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk >777 majordom:majordom /usr/local/majordomo >777 majordom:majordom /usr/local/majordomo/lists > >At this time, I'm assuming my directories are world writable. Can >anyone suggest another approach to this problem? Had this same problem yesterday with my install... luckily many people on this list have as well so it was easy to figure out. Make sure that the '/usr/local/majordomo' and '/usr/local/majordomo/lists' directories are NOT world writable... Sendmail will complain if it is and you'll get errors like you listed. 777 is dangerous anyway... no need to have them writable by all. Just owner and group. -- Jason Buscema Lambesis jpbuse@lambesis.com 858-794-6444 From majordomo-users-owner Thu Aug 23 00:07:27 2001 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-980720-1) id XAA04803; Wed, 22 Aug 2001 23:55:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: from reserve.guest-tek.com (unknown [12.104.66.2]) by honor.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 321D717EB5 for ; Wed, 22 Aug 2001 23:55:54 -0700 (PDT) Received: from netscape.com ([192.168.1.100]) by reserve.guest-tek.com (8.9.3/8.8.7) with ESMTP id XAA07819; Wed, 22 Aug 2001 23:55:37 -0700 Message-ID: <3B84A8D5.7FEE5D8B@netscape.com> Date: Thu, 23 Aug 2001 01:55:17 -0500 From: Daniel Liston Organization: iPlanet E-Commerce Solutions, A Sun Netscape Alliance X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.78 [en] (X11; U; Linux 2.4.2-2 i686) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Jonathan.Ziring@intexexhibits.com Cc: "majordomo-users@GreatCircle. COM" Subject: Re: Post Messages References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk Jonathan Ziring wrote: > > I have been trying to post messages to your list for a while now and haven't > seen any response. Have they been going through and I'm just not getting > coppied or what? > > -Jon I looks like this message made it through the list just fine. Dan From majordomo-users-owner Thu Aug 23 00:20:25 2001 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-980720-1) id AAA04991; Thu, 23 Aug 2001 00:11:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: from reserve.guest-tek.com (unknown [12.104.66.2]) by honor.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4EE3417EB5 for ; Thu, 23 Aug 2001 00:10:53 -0700 (PDT) Received: from netscape.com ([192.168.1.100]) by reserve.guest-tek.com (8.9.3/8.8.7) with ESMTP id AAA08633; Thu, 23 Aug 2001 00:10:51 -0700 Message-ID: <3B84AC68.3111AED2@netscape.com> Date: Thu, 23 Aug 2001 02:10:32 -0500 From: Daniel Liston Organization: iPlanet E-Commerce Solutions, A Sun Netscape Alliance X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.78 [en] (X11; U; Linux 2.4.2-2 i686) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Moorewebs , Majordomo Users Subject: how to get off a majordomo mailing list References: <594C1E8DEC9CD4118B4E009027425D006379AE@za14nt03.mweb.com> <3B83884C.52229366@netscape.com> <000f01c12b47$c5483280$39feea18@lvcm.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk No, I do not own the Majordomo-Users list. All majordomo lists use the same commands and the same syntax of those commands for adding and removing yourself from a list. -- I have had serveral (many) messages to my work email address asking me "how do I get off the majordomo list?". #1. MAKE SURE TO SEND YOUR MESSAGE IN PLAIN TEXT. NO HTML! For those of you who have done this, and are still receiving mail from the list, try clicking the URL below. If you do not use a web savy mail client, the key is to write your message to majordomo@greatcircle.com with nothing in the subject line, and only the following plain text in the message body; unsubscribe majordomo-users If you are not subscribed to the list from the address you are sending the message from, the body should have one more piece of information, the address you want unsubscribed; unsubscribe majordomo-users my.email.address@some.domain.com Here is a URL you can click, to be removed... mailto:majordomo@greatcircle.com?body=unsubscribe%20majordomo-users This will open a new message in your mail client with all the proper fields already completed for you. Now just click "send". Dan Liston Moorewebs wrote: > > Hello Dan, > > Are you the owner of the MD listing? > > I have tried in vain to unsubscribe from the list and it still comes. > > Any suggestions? > > Thanks > > Brian Berger From majordomo-users-owner Thu Aug 23 13:35:19 2001 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-980720-1) id NAA15540; Thu, 23 Aug 2001 13:13:04 -0700 (PDT) Received: from e1.ny.us.ibm.com (e1.ny.us.ibm.com [32.97.182.101]) by honor.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1272B17EB5 for ; Thu, 23 Aug 2001 13:12:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: from northrelay02.pok.ibm.com (northrelay02.pok.ibm.com [9.117.200.22]) by e1.ny.us.ibm.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id QAA231844 for ; Thu, 23 Aug 2001 16:10:45 -0400 Received: from d01ml243.pok.ibm.com (d01ml243.pok.ibm.com [9.117.200.72]) by northrelay02.pok.ibm.com (8.11.1m3/NCO v4.97.1) with ESMTP id f7NK4tN73628 for ; Thu, 23 Aug 2001 16:04:55 -0400 Importance: Normal Subject: Maximum number of characters in a majordomo list name? To: majordomo-users@GreatCircle.COM X-Mailer: Lotus Notes Build V60_07022001 July 02, 2001 Message-ID: From: "Elizabeth Poole" Date: Thu, 23 Aug 2001 16:12:44 -0400 X-MIMETrack: Serialize by Router on D01ML243/01/M/IBM(Release 5.0.8 |June 18, 2001) at 08/23/2001 04:12:51 PM MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk I'm still in the process of installing and configuring the majordomo software, on a system that regrettably only permits eight character user names (sigh), and I wasn't able to find the answer in the FAQ or the searchable archives. What's the maximum number of characters in a Majordomo list name? I know that for listserv (which I'm also testing), it's 80 characters at the outside, and may be less. I shudder to imagine 80-character list names, but the people I'm installing the mailing lists for think that 80 is too low. Does anyone on this list know the max for Majordomo? My thanks in advance. cheers, Elizabeth Elizabeth Poole ejp@us.ibm.com Collaborative Computing - Watson I/S T.J.Watson Research Center tieline: /862-3045, external: 914-945-3045 PO Box 218, Yorktown Heights NY 10598 From majordomo-users-owner Thu Aug 23 21:06:03 2001 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-980720-1) id UAA20283; Thu, 23 Aug 2001 20:53:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: from polam.pacific.net.hk (polam.pacific.net.hk [202.14.67.46]) by honor.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id BC89817E8B for ; Thu, 23 Aug 2001 20:53:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: from kwaifong.pacific.net.hk (kwaifong.pacific.net.hk [202.14.67.7]) by polam.pacific.net.hk with ESMTP id f7O3quo16019 for ; Fri, 24 Aug 2001 11:52:57 +0800 (HKT) Received: from RayDesktop.pacific.net.hk ([152.101.75.1]) by kwaifong.pacific.net.hk with ESMTP id LAA01965 for ; Fri, 24 Aug 2001 11:52:56 +0800 (HKT) Message-Id: <5.0.2.1.2.20010824115248.02944ab0@pop3.dots21.com> X-Sender: rkwchan@pop.pacific.net.hk X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.0.2 Date: Fri, 24 Aug 2001 11:53:55 +0800 To: majordomo-users@greatcircle.com From: Ray Chan Subject: restrict_post problem Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk Hi all, I was trying to implement "restrict_post" but it wasn't work. In the ctest.config, I put restrict_post = /usr/lib/majordomo/lists/ctest OR restrict_post = ./lists/ctest OR restrict_post = lists/ctest OR restrict_post = ./ctest OR restrict_post = ctest The list directory: 4 drwxrwxr-x 2 majordom mail 4096 Aug 23 17:06 . 4 drwxrwxrwx 7 majordom majordom 4096 Aug 23 16:28 .. 4 -rw-rw-r-- 1 majordom majordom 18 Aug 23 16:33 ctest 20 -rw-rw-r-- 1 mail mail 16512 Aug 23 17:06 ctest.config Any comment? Thx a lot! Best Regards, Ray From majordomo-users-owner Thu Aug 23 21:36:02 2001 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-980720-1) id VAA20584; Thu, 23 Aug 2001 21:23:04 -0700 (PDT) Received: from castro.queernet.org (castro.queernet.org [209.157.101.253]) by honor.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 432DA17E8B for ; Thu, 23 Aug 2001 21:22:58 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (rogerk@localhost) by castro.queernet.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) with ESMTP id f7O4MqU07006 Date: Thu, 23 Aug 2001 21:22:52 -0700 (PDT) From: "Roger B.A. Klorese" To: Ray Chan Cc: Subject: Re: restrict_post problem In-Reply-To: <5.0.2.1.2.20010824115248.02944ab0@pop3.dots21.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk On Fri, 24 Aug 2001, Ray Chan wrote: > I was trying to implement "restrict_post" but it wasn't work. In the > ctest.config, I put > > restrict_post = /usr/lib/majordomo/lists/ctest > OR > restrict_post = ./lists/ctest > OR > restrict_post = lists/ctest > OR > restrict_post = ./ctest > OR > restrict_post = ctest > > The list directory: > 4 drwxrwxr-x 2 majordom mail 4096 Aug 23 17:06 . > 4 drwxrwxrwx 7 majordom majordom 4096 Aug 23 16:28 .. > 4 -rw-rw-r-- 1 majordom majordom 18 Aug 23 16:33 ctest > 20 -rw-rw-r-- 1 mail mail 16512 Aug 23 17:06 ctest.config What are your aliases? Are you using "resend" to deliver your mail. or just a :include: alias? The options marked as "resend" in the config file only work if you use an alias that calls "resend". If Majordomo doesn't touch your message, it can't filter it. -- ROGER B.A. KLORESE rogerk@QueerNet.ORG PO Box 14309 San Francisco, CA 94114 "Go without hate. But not without rage. Heal the world." -- Paul Monette From majordomo-users-owner Thu Aug 23 21:50:56 2001 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-980720-1) id VAA20689; Thu, 23 Aug 2001 21:30:50 -0700 (PDT) Received: from yautong.pacific.net.hk (yautong.pacific.net.hk [202.64.33.135]) by honor.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id EC98817E8B for ; Thu, 23 Aug 2001 21:30:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: from tsingyi.pacific.net.hk (tsingyi.pacific.net.hk [202.64.33.132]) by yautong.pacific.net.hk with ESMTP id f7O4UfG28248; Fri, 24 Aug 2001 12:30:41 +0800 (HKT) Received: from RayDesktop.pacific.net.hk ([152.101.75.1]) by tsingyi.pacific.net.hk with ESMTP id MAA01012; Fri, 24 Aug 2001 12:30:40 +0800 (HKT) Message-Id: <5.0.2.1.2.20010824123102.02953250@pop.pacific.net.hk> X-Sender: rkwchan@pop.pacific.net.hk X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.0.2 Date: Fri, 24 Aug 2001 12:32:14 +0800 To: "Roger B.A. Klorese" From: Ray Chan Subject: Re: restrict_post problem Cc: In-Reply-To: References: <5.0.2.1.2.20010824115248.02944ab0@pop3.dots21.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk The alias is ctest and I am using a :include: alias. So, I must use "resend" right? but how to change from "a :include: alias" to a resend... thx! At 09:22 PM 8/23/2001 -0700, Roger B.A. Klorese wrote: >On Fri, 24 Aug 2001, Ray Chan wrote: > > I was trying to implement "restrict_post" but it wasn't work. In the > > ctest.config, I put > > > > restrict_post = /usr/lib/majordomo/lists/ctest > > OR > > restrict_post = ./lists/ctest > > OR > > restrict_post = lists/ctest > > OR > > restrict_post = ./ctest > > OR > > restrict_post = ctest > > > > The list directory: > > 4 drwxrwxr-x 2 majordom mail 4096 Aug 23 17:06 . > > 4 drwxrwxrwx 7 majordom majordom 4096 Aug 23 16:28 .. > > 4 -rw-rw-r-- 1 majordom majordom 18 Aug 23 16:33 ctest > > 20 -rw-rw-r-- 1 mail mail 16512 Aug 23 17:06 ctest.config > >What are your aliases? Are you using "resend" to deliver your mail. or >just a :include: alias? > >The options marked as "resend" in the config file only work if you use an >alias that calls "resend". If Majordomo doesn't touch your message, it >can't filter it. > >-- >ROGER B.A. >KLORESE rogerk@QueerNet.ORG >PO Box 14309 San Francisco, CA >94114 >"Go without hate. But not without rage. Heal the world." -- Paul >Monette Best Regards, Ray From majordomo-users-owner Fri Aug 24 06:50:32 2001 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-980720-1) id GAA28693; Fri, 24 Aug 2001 06:09:06 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail.bcpl.net (mail.bcpl.net [204.255.212.10]) by honor.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6525017E8B for ; Fri, 24 Aug 2001 06:08:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (fold@localhost) by mail.bcpl.net (8.11.3/8.11.3) with ESMTP id f7OD8tP06489 for ; Fri, 24 Aug 2001 09:08:55 -0400 (EDT) Date: Fri, 24 Aug 2001 09:08:55 -0400 (EDT) From: Chip Old To: MAJORDOMO-USERS Subject: Re: restrict_post problem In-Reply-To: <5.0.2.1.2.20010824115248.02944ab0@pop3.dots21.com> Message-ID: X-Organization: BCPL.NET Internet Services MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk restrict_post = ctest is correct. You said "it wasn't work", but didn't say exactly how is doesn't work. It's impossible to troubleshoot without more details. Are you getting "group writable directory" errors? The "ls" output you included makes it likely that you are. That's covered in the docs and in the FAQ. On Fri, 24 Aug 2001, Ray Chan wrote: > Hi all, > > I was trying to implement "restrict_post" but it wasn't work. In the > ctest.config, I put > > restrict_post = /usr/lib/majordomo/lists/ctest > OR > restrict_post = ./lists/ctest > OR > restrict_post = lists/ctest > OR > restrict_post = ./ctest > OR > restrict_post = ctest > > The list directory: > 4 drwxrwxr-x 2 majordom mail 4096 Aug 23 17:06 . > 4 drwxrwxrwx 7 majordom majordom 4096 Aug 23 16:28 .. > 4 -rw-rw-r-- 1 majordom majordom 18 Aug 23 16:33 ctest > 20 -rw-rw-r-- 1 mail mail 16512 Aug 23 17:06 ctest.config > -- Chip Old (Francis E. Old) E-Mail: fold@bcpl.net Manager, BCPL Network Services Phone: 410-887-6180 Manager, BCPL.NET Internet Services FAX: 410-887-2091 320 York Road Towson, MD 21204 USA From majordomo-users-owner Fri Aug 24 10:50:30 2001 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-980720-1) id KAA01466; Fri, 24 Aug 2001 10:34:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: from kuku.excite.com (kuku-rwcmta.excite.com [198.3.99.63]) by honor.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9107417E8B for ; Fri, 24 Aug 2001 10:34:22 -0700 (PDT) Received: from seamore.excite.com ([199.172.148.163]) by kuku.excite.com (InterMail vM.4.01.02.39 201-229-119-122) with ESMTP id <20010824173421.DSWB27768.kuku.excite.com@seamore.excite.com>; Fri, 24 Aug 2001 10:34:21 -0700 Message-ID: <5800024.998674461851.JavaMail.imail@seamore.excite.com> Date: Fri, 24 Aug 2001 10:34:20 -0700 (PDT) From: David Padilla To: majordomo-users@GreatCircle.COM Subject: Attachments Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Excite Inbox X-Sender-Ip: 24.161.175.99 Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk Hi, I have inherited a majordomo mailing list that is automatically stripping attachments from messages sent to the list. When I look at the config file for the list, I see that no taboo-headers or taboo-body regular expressions have been set. Also the maxlength is set at 1000000 - I had heard that if maxlength is too low then attachments get cut. We are not running anything like DEMIME to strip away the attachments. Does majordomo automatically stop attachments from going through? Any help on this question would be greatly appreciated. -Dave Padilla _______________________________________________________ Send a cool gift with your E-Card http://www.bluemountain.com/giftcenter/ From majordomo-users-owner Fri Aug 24 15:35:39 2001 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-980720-1) id PAA04463; Fri, 24 Aug 2001 15:24:48 -0700 (PDT) Received: from netserv.olafsolutions.com (www.olafsolutions.com [64.244.3.245]) by honor.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A744317EAF for ; Fri, 24 Aug 2001 15:24:41 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from steve@localhost) by netserv.olafsolutions.com (8.11.1/666) id f7OMQ8103999; Fri, 24 Aug 2001 22:26:08 GMT Date: Fri, 24 Aug 2001 17:26:08 -0500 (CDT) From: Steve Maroney To: Majordomo Users Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk Hey guys, I have a problem with my list config files. When I fisrt started off with out a restrict-post feature the config file got created in the same direcotry with the list. Now that I take advantage of the restrict-post feature, the new config files are created one dir. below the list directory. Below Im including my aliases file. Does anybody have a clue ? Sorry if this problem has already brought up before Thanks, Steve Maroney -------------- scouters-lascouts: "| /usr/local/majordomo-1.94.5/wrapper resend -h lascouts.net -l scouters scouters-lascouts-outgoing,nouser" scouters-lascouts-outgoing: :include:/usr/local/majordomo-1.94.5/lists/lascouts/scouters scouters-approval: dale@lascouts.net tchoup-lascouts: "| /usr/local/majordomo-1.94.5/wrapper resend -h lascouts.net -l tchoup tchoup-lascouts-outgoing,nouser" tchoup-lascouts-outgoing: :include:/usr/local/majordomo-1.94.5/lists/lascouts/tchoup tchoup-approval: dale@lascouts.net owner-tchoup: dale@lascouts.net From majordomo-users-owner Sat Aug 25 13:16:55 2001 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-980720-1) id NAA18691; Sat, 25 Aug 2001 13:04:55 -0700 (PDT) Received: from totk.com (unknown [209.61.155.117]) by honor.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 95F7717E8B for ; Sat, 25 Aug 2001 13:04:49 -0700 (PDT) Received: from rompute (24-148-41-76.na.21stcentury.net [24.148.41.76]) by totk.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA30553 for ; Sat, 25 Aug 2001 15:04:08 -0500 From: "TOTK.com Sports" To: Subject: Apostrophes in the Subject line Date: Sat, 25 Aug 2001 15:01:40 -0500 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 In-Reply-To: Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk Notice the apostrophe in the subject line causes the header to be written in the email body. majordomo-1.94.4, Linux kernel-2.2.19, sendmail-8.9.3. Is there anything I can configure to prevent this? Thanks. > From: csn-elite-clips-request@collegesportingnews.com > [mailto:csn-elite-clips-request@collegesportingnews.com] > Sent: Saturday, August 25, 2001 11:26 AM > Subject: [CSN ELITE-CLIPS] Team Schnellenberger: FAUs assistant coaches > have 150 years of > > > experience > Sender: csn-elite-clips-request@collegesportingnews.com > Precedence: list > Reply-To: contact@collegesportingnews.com > > Team Schnellenberger: FAU’s assistant coaches have 150 years of experience > >... --- Ralph Wallace From majordomo-users-owner Sat Aug 25 13:31:52 2001 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-980720-1) id NAA18831; Sat, 25 Aug 2001 13:19:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: from area51.litcon.net (lampard145.august.net [64.90.39.145]) by honor.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4699417EB3 for ; Sat, 25 Aug 2001 13:19:51 -0700 (PDT) Received: from tower ([192.168.1.11]) by area51.litcon.net (8.10.1/8.8.7) with SMTP id f7PKSj700754 for ; Sat, 25 Aug 2001 15:28:45 -0500 Reply-To: From: "JD Lampard" To: Subject: New setup not operational Date: Sat, 25 Aug 2001 15:28:44 -0500 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6700 Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk Being a rookie to mailing lists I'm having issues getting one up and running. The only -thing- I can possibly can suspect because I don't have a complete understanding of the scripts is that in majordomo.cf the "home" variable (that I guess is set by the wrapper which is compiled???) may not be correct. I opened wrapper and saw "/usr/local/majordomo-1.94.5" which is indeed the directory that majordomo resides in. The following details my environment... -Linux (Mandrake Corporate Server 1.0 (2.2.17 kernel)) -Sendmail 8.10.1 -Perl 5.6.0 -Majordomo 1.94.5 (downloaded from Great Circle) Results of "./wrapper config-test"... [root@area51 majordomo-1.94.5]# ./wrapper config-test ------------------------------------------------------------ ---------------- Config-test for Majordomo ---------------- ------------------------------------------------------------ --------------------- Obvious things: --------------------- ------------------ environment variables ------------------ HOME=/usr/local/majordomo-1.94.5 LOGNAME=root MAJORDOMO_CF=/usr/local/majordomo-1.94.5/majordomo.cf PATH=/bin:/usr/bin:/usr/ucb SHELL=/bin/sh USER=root --------------------- euid/egid checks --------------------- effective user = majordomo (uid 507) effective group = majordomo lampard wheel disk adm sys daemon bin root (gid 510 501 10 6 4 3 2 1 0 ) ---------------------- uid/gid checks ---------------------- real user = majordomo (uid 507) real group = majordomo lampard wheel disk adm sys daemon bin root (gid 510 501 10 6 4 3 2 1 0 ) ------------------------------------------------------------ Non obvious things that cause headaches: ------------------------------------------------------------ Good: 'require'd /usr/local/majordomo-1.94.5/majordomo.cf okay. Good: found ctime.pl okay. Good: found majordomo_version.pl okay. Good: found majordomo.pl okay. Good: found shlock.pl okay. Good: found config_parse.pl okay. You're running Majordomo Version 1.94.5. --==> Majordomo home directory is /usr/local/majordomo-1.94.5. ------------------- Include directories ------------------- /usr/local/majordomo-1.94.5 /usr/lib/perl5/5.6.0/i386-linux /usr/lib/perl5/5.6.0 /usr/lib/perl5/site_perl/5.6.0/i386-linux /usr/lib/perl5/site_perl/5.6.0 /usr/lib/perl5/site_perl . --------------------------- Home --------------------------- Good: changedir to /usr/local/majordomo-1.94.5 succeeded. Good: Created a mock lock file. ---------------------- temp directory ---------------------- Good: Created a temp file in $TMPDIR (/usr/tmp). ---------------------- list directory ---------------------- Good: list directory /usr/local/majordomo-1.94.5/lists has good permissions. --------------------------- log --------------------------- Good: logfile /usr/local/majordomo-1.94.5/Log exists and is writeable. ------------------------- Mailers ------------------------- You have defined a mailer for delivery. Attempting to verify that this is a valid mailer...looks okay. You have defined a mailer for delivering administrative messages. Attempting to verify that this is a valid mailer...looks okay. ------------------ Checking majordomo.cf ------------------ Checking to see if there are new variables that should be in your majordomo.cf file...Nope, none that I see. Have you configured where Majordomo is? $whereami is litcon.net Good: yup! ----------------------- end of tests ----------------------- Nothing bad found! Majordomo _should_ work correctly. If it doesn't, check your configuration file (/usr/local/majordomo-1.94.5/majordomo.cf) closely, and if it still looks okay, consider asking the majordomo-users mailing list at "majordomo-users@greatcircle.com" for assistance. Be sure and fully specify what your problems are, and what type of machine (and operating system) you are using. Enjoy! [root@area51 majordomo-1.94.5] Partial contents of majordomo.cf... $whereami = "litcon.net"; $whoami = "majordomo\@$whereami"; $whoami_owner = "majordomo-owner\@$whereami"; if ( defined $ENV{"HOME"}) { $homedir = $ENV{"HOME"}; } else { $homedir = "/usr/local/majordomo-1.94.5"; } $listdir = "$homedir/lists"; $digest_work_dir = "/usr/local/mail/digest"; $log = "$homedir/Log"; $sendmail_command = "/usr/sbin/sendmail"; $mailer = "$sendmail_command -oi -oee -f\$sender"; $bounce_mailer = "$sendmail_command -oi -oee -f\$sender -t"; I chmod directories and files per documentation. The user/group I set up is "majordomo" and is trusted by sendmail and sendmail aliases were added. Uh... don't know what other info may be needed to best assist. Let me know. I set up a dummy list named "test". Maybe you could try to subscribe. ??? I truly appreciate you help! Thanks a bunch--in advance! Regards, JD Lampard From majordomo-users-owner Sun Aug 26 10:08:43 2001 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-980720-1) id KAA00898; Sun, 26 Aug 2001 10:02:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: from proteus.obantec.net (unknown [213.171.197.193]) by honor.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id DF5EA17E8B for ; Sun, 26 Aug 2001 10:02:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: from gamma (host213-122-25-103.btinternet.com [213.122.25.103]) by proteus.obantec.net (8.10.2/8.10.2) with SMTP id f7QH52A14064 for ; Sun, 26 Aug 2001 18:05:02 +0100 Message-ID: <02ed01c12e50$a9d451d0$0200a8c0@gamma> From: "Support" To: Subject: majorcool aliases Date: Sun, 26 Aug 2001 18:00:46 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk Hi Ok so majordomo-1.94.5 runs fine but i am trying to add majorcool for my users to create their own lists etc. mj_build_aliases runs but i cannot figure out how "owner" from the form is not used to build the list-owner aliases etc. If i hardcode support@obantec.net into mj_build_aliases it works but i want to have the owner that is passed by the form as the list owner. It would help if someone could explain what needs to be in mj_build_aliases.args ?should i have one .args file per user like with the majorcool-xyz.cf files Mark -- Obantec Support From majordomo-users-owner Mon Aug 27 01:23:51 2001 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-980720-1) id AAA07862; Mon, 27 Aug 2001 00:55:53 -0700 (PDT) Received: from camaro.sonny.org (unknown [205.217.137.8]) by honor.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id ABE4817E8B for ; Mon, 27 Aug 2001 00:55:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: from netscape.com (daniel.sonny.org [205.217.137.65]) by camaro.sonny.org (8.8.8/8.8.3) with ESMTP id CAA17028; Mon, 27 Aug 2001 02:55:47 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: <3B89FD02.7E65BC07@netscape.com> Date: Mon, 27 Aug 2001 02:55:46 -0500 From: Daniel Liston Organization: iPlanet eCommerce Solutions, A Sun|Netscape Alliance X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.75 [en] (X11; U; Linux 2.2.16-3 i686) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Phil Bangayan , majordomo-users@greatcircle.com Subject: Re: Mail Loops References: <200108270419.f7R4Juc10091@gobruins.ICSL.UCLA.EDU> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk I don't normally reply to private email regarding majordomo, but since I may not have this address much longer anyway, I will make an exception. The key is to find a unique identifier in the messages causing or involved in the loop, and filter it. The O'Reilly book, Mastering Regular Expressions is a great help for this. I also make use of the listname.config file to add a header field to each message sent out, then turn around and filter on this header. Example: message_headers << END X-Mailing-List: listname END taboo_headers << END /X-Mailing-List: listname/ END Dan Liston Phil Bangayan wrote: > > Dan, > > I'm reading a message you posted to majordomo-users > back on July 17, 2001. In it you say: > > > I use a couple tricks to prevent loops, but specifically to > > prevent auto-reply loops, I do this in the majordomo.cf file; > > I'm curious what you put in the taboo body or taboo header > to prevent mail loops. My list (gobruins -- a UCLA sports > mailing list) got hit by a mail loop today. From reading > the headers, I'm not exactly sure what caused it, but > my _guess_ is the offending subscriber had the list in > his .forward file. > > Anyway, if you have any suggestions, I'd certainly > appreciate them. > > Thank you. > > -Phil From majordomo-users-owner Mon Aug 27 06:26:37 2001 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-980720-1) id GAA13726; Mon, 27 Aug 2001 06:17:19 -0700 (PDT) Received: from clmex100.honeywell-tsi.com (clmex100.honeywell-tsi.com [198.186.47.70]) by honor.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2E4EC17E8B for ; Mon, 27 Aug 2001 06:17:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: by clmex100.honeywell-tsi.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) id ; Mon, 27 Aug 2001 09:02:15 -0400 Message-ID: From: "Mathis, Eric" To: majordomo-users@greatcircle.com Subject: Annoying problem Date: Mon, 27 Aug 2001 09:15:42 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk Majordomo is bouncing a message because of size. The message size is about 2.5mb. I have reviewed the Majordomo documentation and accordingly checked the various configuration files. The maxlength has been set to 5mb in the .config file for the list, to 10mb in the config_parse.pl file, and to 10mb in the sendmail.cf file. The system has been re-booted since these changes. Despite these changes, Majordomo continues to think that the maxlength is 400Kb. Any ideas as to what is causing the problem and how to correct it? My environment: AIX 4.2 Majordomo 1.94.4 Sendmail 8.9 Perl 5.5002 Thanks! ... Eric Mathis eric.mathis@gsfc.nasa.gov From majordomo-users-owner Mon Aug 27 08:55:20 2001 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-980720-1) id IAA15121; Mon, 27 Aug 2001 08:44:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: from tarpon.mitra.com (tarpon.mitra.com [192.190.75.5]) by honor.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7AC4217EBC for ; Mon, 27 Aug 2001 08:42:40 -0700 (PDT) Received: from marlin.mitra.com (marlin.mitra.com [192.168.1.21] (may be forged)) by tarpon.mitra.com (8.10.1/8.10.1) with ESMTP id f7RFfPo14078 for ; Mon, 27 Aug 2001 11:41:25 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from larry@localhost) by marlin.mitra.com (8.10.2+Sun/8.10.2) id f7RFfNX13275; Mon, 27 Aug 2001 11:41:23 -0400 (EDT) From: Larry Williamson MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <15242.27171.354360.495662@mitra.com> Date: Mon, 27 Aug 2001 11:41:23 -0400 To: majordomo-users@greatcircle.com Subject: Can I avoid nexted subject prefixes on nested lists? X-Mailer: VM 6.88 under Emacs 21.0.104.1 Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk We have a couple of lists that have other lists listed in them. A hypothetical example to illustrate my problem... "testers" lists all the people in our testing group "coders" lists all our software writers We have added "testers" to the list of people in the "coders" list. Both "coders" and "testers" have $subject_prefix=[$LIST] So, when someone sends email to "coders", the people on testers see subject lines similar to... Subject: [testers][coders] fixed another bug The "testers" would rather not see both these prefixes in the Subject line, they want to see only the original list's prefix, ie. [coders]. But, of course, they do want their own prefix when testers is the list that was sent to. Does anyone know if I can make this work without having to dig in an modify the majordomo software's guts? I have probably half a dozen such lists. We are running version 1.94. From majordomo-users-owner Mon Aug 27 09:11:21 2001 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-980720-1) id IAA15217; Mon, 27 Aug 2001 08:51:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: from drizzle.com (cascadia.drizzle.com [216.162.192.17]) by honor.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id AC01C17EBC for ; Mon, 27 Aug 2001 08:51:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: from n7j8l9 (splash221.drizzle.com [216.162.197.221]) by drizzle.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id f7RFpK527150 for ; Mon, 27 Aug 2001 08:51:20 -0700 Reply-To: From: "Nan Hawthorne" To: "Majordomo-Users" Subject: Quickie Date: Mon, 27 Aug 2001 08:53:52 -0700 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 Importance: Normal Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk Can I change the password on an individual majordomo list just by changing what it says for admin_password the list config file? Thanks! Nan in Seattle | < > X /X\ /X\ /X\ / X \ / X \ / X \ / X \ __/_____\__ From majordomo-users-owner Mon Aug 27 10:08:53 2001 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-980720-1) id JAA15859; Mon, 27 Aug 2001 09:50:54 -0700 (PDT) Received: from drizzle.com (cascadia.drizzle.com [216.162.192.17]) by honor.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 251D517EBC for ; Mon, 27 Aug 2001 09:50:48 -0700 (PDT) Received: from n7j8l9 (splash221.drizzle.com [216.162.197.221]) by drizzle.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id f7RGom520898 for ; Mon, 27 Aug 2001 09:50:48 -0700 Reply-To: From: "Nan Hawthorne" To: "Majordomo-Users" Subject: RE: Annoying problem Date: Mon, 27 Aug 2001 09:53:20 -0700 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 In-Reply-To: Importance: Normal Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk You might split it into smaller chunks. Nan in Seattle | < > X /X\ /X\ /X\ / X \ / X \ / X \ / X \ __/_____\__ -----Original Message----- From: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM [mailto:majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM]On Behalf Of Mathis, Eric Sent: Monday, August 27, 2001 6:16 AM To: majordomo-users@GreatCircle.COM Subject: Annoying problem Majordomo is bouncing a message because of size. The message size is about 2.5mb. I have reviewed the Majordomo documentation and accordingly checked the various configuration files. The maxlength has been set to 5mb in the .config file for the list, to 10mb in the config_parse.pl file, and to 10mb in the sendmail.cf file. The system has been re-booted since these changes. Despite these changes, Majordomo continues to think that the maxlength is 400Kb. Any ideas as to what is causing the problem and how to correct it? My environment: AIX 4.2 Majordomo 1.94.4 Sendmail 8.9 Perl 5.5002 Thanks! ... Eric Mathis eric.mathis@gsfc.nasa.gov From majordomo-users-owner Mon Aug 27 10:38:58 2001 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-980720-1) id KAA16375; Mon, 27 Aug 2001 10:29:41 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mailsrv.image-src.com (mailsrv.image-src.com [216.2.143.227]) by honor.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id CF15517EBD for ; Mon, 27 Aug 2001 10:29:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: from jefe (proxy.image-src.com [216.2.143.231]) by mailsrv.image-src.com (8.11.2/8.11.2) with SMTP id f7RHUhi17352 for ; Mon, 27 Aug 2001 13:30:43 -0400 From: "Jeff Graves" To: Subject: Service Unavailable Date: Mon, 27 Aug 2001 13:29:51 -0400 Message-ID: <004c01c12f1d$e0c812d0$ce01c8c0@jefe> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6700 Importance: Normal Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk Hi all, new to the list. Downloaded tarball of 1.94.5 this morning. After following the INSTALL file and performing the last step, I get this message returned: ----- The following addresses had permanent fatal errors ----- "|/mail/majordomo/wrapper majordomo" (reason: service unavailable) (expanded from: majordomo) ----- Transcript of session follows ----- Message delivered to mailing list majordomo smrsh: wrapper not available for sendmail programs 554 5.0.0 "|/mail/majordomo/wrapper majordomo"... Service unavailable It looks like a sendmail configuration issue. Anyone know where/what permissions I need to fix? Thanks, Jeff Graves Customer Support Engineer Image Source, Inc. 10 Mill Street Bellingham, MA 02019 508.966.5200 X31 - Phone 508.966.5170 - Fax jeff@image-src.com - Email From majordomo-users-owner Mon Aug 27 12:08:54 2001 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-980720-1) id LAA17346; Mon, 27 Aug 2001 11:50:35 -0700 (PDT) Received: from netscape.com (r2d2.netscape.com [205.217.237.47]) by honor.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id AF49117EBC for ; Mon, 27 Aug 2001 11:50:29 -0700 (PDT) Received: from judge.mcom.com (judge.mcom.com [205.217.237.53]) by netscape.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with ESMTP id f7RIoRY00201 for ; Mon, 27 Aug 2001 11:50:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: from netscape.com ([205.217.228.39]) by judge.mcom.com (Netscape Messaging Server 4.15) with ESMTP id GIQPO403.0DS; Mon, 27 Aug 2001 11:50:28 -0700 Message-ID: <3B8A9677.950A3E14@netscape.com> Date: Mon, 27 Aug 2001 13:50:31 -0500 From: dliston@netscape.com (Dan Liston) Organization: iPlanet eCommerce Solutions, A Sun|Netscape Alliance X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.78 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: hawthorne@cybervpm.com Cc: Majordomo-Users Subject: Re: Quickie References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk Yes and no. This also depends on whether or not there is a listname.passwd file in the ~majordomo/lists/ directory. If there is, the admin_passwd setting in listname.config should be empty. Dan Liston Nan Hawthorne wrote: > > Can I change the password on an individual majordomo list just by changing > what it says for admin_password the list config file? > > Thanks! > > Nan in Seattle > > | > < > > X > /X\ > /X\ > /X\ > / X \ > / X \ > / X \ > / X \ > __/_____\__ From majordomo-users-owner Mon Aug 27 12:23:53 2001 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-980720-1) id LAA17431; Mon, 27 Aug 2001 11:59:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: from netscape.com (r2d2.netscape.com [205.217.237.47]) by honor.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B564B17EBC for ; Mon, 27 Aug 2001 11:59:53 -0700 (PDT) Received: from judge.mcom.com (judge.mcom.com [205.217.237.53]) by netscape.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with ESMTP id f7RIxcY02167 for ; Mon, 27 Aug 2001 11:59:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: from netscape.com ([205.217.228.168]) by judge.mcom.com (Netscape Messaging Server 4.15) with ESMTP id GIQQ3F03.EDJ; Mon, 27 Aug 2001 11:59:39 -0700 Message-ID: <3B8A989D.17430AD7@netscape.com> Date: Mon, 27 Aug 2001 13:59:41 -0500 From: dliston@netscape.com (Dan Liston) Organization: iPlanet eCommerce Solutions, A Sun|Netscape Alliance X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.78 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Larry Williamson Cc: majordomo-users@GreatCircle.COM Subject: Re: Can I avoid nexted subject prefixes on nested lists? References: <15242.27171.354360.495662@mitra.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk Rather than adding the testers@domain.tld to the zubscriber file for the coders list, why not change your alias for coders-outgoing to :include:~majordomo/lists/testers, :include:~majordomo/lists/coders? The order of the includes is not important. As long as the message is not being sent back through resend at another address, there should only be the one subject prefix. In this case, [coders]. Dan Liston Larry Williamson wrote: > > We have a couple of lists that have other lists listed in them. > > A hypothetical example to illustrate my problem... > > "testers" lists all the people in our testing group > "coders" lists all our software writers > > We have added "testers" to the list of people in the "coders" list. > > Both "coders" and "testers" have $subject_prefix=[$LIST] > > So, when someone sends email to "coders", the people on testers see > subject lines similar to... > > Subject: [testers][coders] fixed another bug > > The "testers" would rather not see both these prefixes in the Subject > line, they want to see only the original list's prefix, ie. [coders]. > > But, of course, they do want their own prefix when testers is the list > that was sent to. > > Does anyone know if I can make this work without having to dig in an > modify the majordomo software's guts? > > I have probably half a dozen such lists. > > We are running version 1.94. From majordomo-users-owner Mon Aug 27 12:38:53 2001 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-980720-1) id MAA17638; Mon, 27 Aug 2001 12:19:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: from stl-smtpout-01.boeing.com (stl-smtpout-01.boeing.com [12.13.247.21]) by honor.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B768E17EBD for ; Mon, 27 Aug 2001 12:19:50 -0700 (PDT) Received: from stl-av-01.boeing.com ([192.76.190.6]) by stl-smtpout-01.boeing.com (8.9.2/8.8.5-M2) with ESMTP id OAA27164 for ; Mon, 27 Aug 2001 14:20:04 -0500 (CDT) Received: from blv-hub-01.boeing.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by stl-av-01.boeing.com (8.9.3/8.9.2/MBS-AV-01) with ESMTP id OAA17695 for ; Mon, 27 Aug 2001 14:19:48 -0500 (CDT) Received: from slopok.roses.bna.boeing.com (slopok.roses.bna.boeing.com [141.102.33.160]) by blv-hub-01.boeing.com (8.11.3/8.11.3/MBS-LDAP-01) with ESMTP id f7RJJl613809 for ; Mon, 27 Aug 2001 12:19:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: from roses.bna.boeing.com (thorny [141.102.34.157]) by slopok.roses.bna.boeing.com (8.10.1/8.10.1) with ESMTP id f7RJJj302603 for ; Mon, 27 Aug 2001 12:19:47 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <3B8A9D51.A203540B@roses.bna.boeing.com> Date: Mon, 27 Aug 2001 12:19:45 -0700 From: Carlos Ramirez Organization: Boeing - Human Space Flight & Exploration X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.73 [en] (X11; U; SunOS 5.5.1 sun4u) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: majordomo-users@greatcircle.com Subject: Handling Attachments Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk Is it possible to strip attachments from messages before being sent out to the list? If not, can a message be bounced if an attachment is included? I've read through the docs but have not been able to find anything related to this. -Carlos -- ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Carlos Ramirez + Boeing + Human Flight & Space Exploration + 714.372.4181 ------------------------------------------------------------------------- From majordomo-users-owner Mon Aug 27 13:08:54 2001 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-980720-1) id NAA18153; Mon, 27 Aug 2001 13:02:56 -0700 (PDT) Received: from castro.queernet.org (castro.queernet.org [209.157.101.253]) by honor.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9875217EBC for ; Mon, 27 Aug 2001 13:02:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (rogerk@localhost) by castro.queernet.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) with ESMTP id f7RK2ow25539 Date: Mon, 27 Aug 2001 13:02:50 -0700 (PDT) From: "Roger B.A. Klorese" To: Dan Liston Cc: , Majordomo-Users Subject: Re: Quickie In-Reply-To: <3B8A9677.950A3E14@netscape.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk On Mon, 27 Aug 2001, Dan Liston wrote: > Yes and no. This also depends on whether or not there is a > listname.passwd > file in the ~majordomo/lists/ directory. If there is, the admin_passwd > setting in listname.config should be empty. Or use listname.passwd for an override password, like a site password - -make it read-only if you do. - ROGER B.A. KLORESE rogerk@QueerNet.ORG PO Box 14309 San Francisco, CA 94114 "Go without hate. But not without rage. Heal the world." -- Paul Monette From majordomo-users-owner Mon Aug 27 13:23:58 2001 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-980720-1) id NAA18119; Mon, 27 Aug 2001 13:00:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: from cloud.ccsf.cc.ca.us (cloud.ccsf.cc.ca.us [147.144.1.212]) by honor.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id DD60A17EBD for ; Mon, 27 Aug 2001 13:00:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (jjah@localhost) by cloud.ccsf.cc.ca.us (8.10.1/8.10.1) with ESMTP id f7RJxOP20409; Mon, 27 Aug 2001 12:59:24 -0700 (PDT) Date: Mon, 27 Aug 2001 12:59:23 -0700 (PDT) From: "Joe R. Jah" To: Dan Liston Cc: hawthorne@cybervpm.com, Majordomo-Users Subject: Master password file was: (Quickie) In-Reply-To: <3B8A9677.950A3E14@netscape.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk On Mon, 27 Aug 2001, Dan Liston wrote: > Date: Mon, 27 Aug 2001 13:50:31 -0500 > From: Dan Liston > To: hawthorne@cybervpm.com > Cc: Majordomo-Users > Subject: Re: Quickie > > Yes and no. This also depends on whether or not there is a > listname.passwd > file in the ~majordomo/lists/ directory. If there is, the admin_passwd > setting in listname.config should be empty. The use of listname.passwd file has been deprecated since 1996, but unfortunately for backward compatibility it is still possible to have it around. If a list has both a listname.passwd and a non-blank admin_passwd field in listname.config file the list would have two different valid passwords;( To prevent that: Create a "read only" master password file, and symbolically link all your listname.password files to it. That will prevent any list owner from overwriting their listname.password file, the deprecated practice; they will have to use the newconfig command to change their password;) A side benefit for Majordomo owner is a master password for remote list management;) Regards, Joe -- _/ _/_/_/ _/ ____________ __o _/ _/ _/ _/ ______________ _-\<,_ _/ _/ _/_/_/ _/ _/ ......(_)/ (_) _/_/ oe _/ _/. _/_/ ah jjah@cloud.ccsf.cc.ca.us From majordomo-users-owner Mon Aug 27 13:53:55 2001 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-980720-1) id NAA18640; Mon, 27 Aug 2001 13:38:43 -0700 (PDT) Received: from legpdc.legendent.com (unknown [38.201.159.130]) by honor.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5284B17EBC for ; Mon, 27 Aug 2001 13:38:35 -0700 (PDT) Received: from DBECK ([38.201.159.174]) by legpdc.legendent.com with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service Version 5.5.2650.21) id Q6F01FK5; Mon, 27 Aug 2001 16:37:10 -0400 Message-ID: <029601c12f38$3d853a60$ae9fc926@legendent.com> From: "Duane Beck" To: "Jeff Graves" , References: <004c01c12f1d$e0c812d0$ce01c8c0@jefe> Subject: Re: Service Unavailable Date: Mon, 27 Aug 2001 16:38:29 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk > Hi all, new to the list. Downloaded tarball of 1.94.5 this morning. = After > following the INSTALL file and performing the last step, I get this = message > returned: >=20 > ----- The following addresses had permanent fatal errors ----- > "|/mail/majordomo/wrapper majordomo" > (reason: service unavailable) > (expanded from: majordomo) >=20 > ----- Transcript of session follows ----- > Message delivered to mailing list majordomo > smrsh: wrapper not available for sendmail programs > 554 5.0.0 "|/mail/majordomo/wrapper majordomo"... Service unavailable >=20 > It looks like a sendmail configuration issue. Anyone know where/what > permissions I need to fix? You have to configure Sendmail Restricted Shell (smrsh) to allow = sendmail to run wrapper. http://www.greatcircle.com/majordomo/majordomo-faq.html#2.11 http://www.sendmail.org/faq/section3.html#3.34 If you've already done this, it may be that sendmail doesn't have the = proper permissions to run wrapper. From majordomo-users-owner Mon Aug 27 14:09:02 2001 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-980720-1) id NAA18864; Mon, 27 Aug 2001 13:53:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: from esson.net (esson.net [216.102.129.43]) by honor.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C363717EB4 for ; Mon, 27 Aug 2001 13:53:23 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ekasky.wrenkasky.com (ekasky.usc.edu [128.125.63.168]) by esson.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA28302 for ; Mon, 27 Aug 2001 13:53:19 -0700 Message-Id: <4.3.2.7.2.20010827135058.00b61118@mail.esson.net> X-Sender: ed@mail.esson.net (Unverified) X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 4.3.2 Date: Mon, 27 Aug 2001 13:53:10 -0700 To: majordomo-users@greatcircle.com From: Ed Kasky Subject: Tokens in headers and footers Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk Is it possible to use tokens in message headers and footers taken from the list.config? I'd like to put a line into a footer like "You are currently subscribed to this list as email.address.com" Ed ~~ Ed Kasky Los Angeles, CA . . . . . . . . In seeking wisdom, the first step is silence, the second listening, the third remembering, the fourth practicing, the fifth -- teaching others. -Ibn Gabirol, poet and philosopher (c. 1022-1058) From majordomo-users-owner Mon Aug 27 14:38:57 2001 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-980720-1) id OAA19359; Mon, 27 Aug 2001 14:23:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: from fred.krusty-motorsports.com (cm-24-161-28-112.nycap.rr.com [24.161.28.112]) by honor.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id AA17617EB4 for ; Mon, 27 Aug 2001 14:23:23 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [10.1.1.18] (helo=zippy) by fred.krusty-motorsports.com with smtp (Exim 3.33 #2) id 15bTe5-0000bW-00; Mon, 27 Aug 2001 17:10:09 -0400 From: Richard Welty To: Carlos Ramirez Cc: majordomo-users@GreatCircle.COM Subject: Re: Handling Attachments Date: Mon, 27 Aug 2001 17:23:22 -0400 Message-ID: References: <3B8A9D51.A203540B@roses.bna.boeing.com> In-Reply-To: <3B8A9D51.A203540B@roses.bna.boeing.com> X-Mailer: Forte Agent 1.8/32.548 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk On Mon, 27 Aug 2001 12:19:45 -0700, you wrote: >Is it possible to strip attachments from messages before being sent out >to the list? If not, can a message be bounced if an attachment is >included? I've read through the docs but have not been able to find >anything related to this. it's not part of majordomo, but there are a couple of mime strippers out there. i've been quite happy with demime, http://scifi.squawk.com/demime.html richard From majordomo-users-owner Mon Aug 27 14:53:56 2001 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-980720-1) id OAA19524; Mon, 27 Aug 2001 14:38:41 -0700 (PDT) Received: from netscape.com (c3po.netscape.com [205.217.237.46]) by honor.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A841E17EBE for ; Mon, 27 Aug 2001 14:38:35 -0700 (PDT) Received: from judge.mcom.com (judge.mcom.com [205.217.237.53]) by netscape.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with ESMTP id f7RLcWk15931 for ; Mon, 27 Aug 2001 14:38:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: from netscape.com ([205.217.228.168]) by judge.mcom.com (Netscape Messaging Server 4.15) with ESMTP id GIQXG900.7FB; Mon, 27 Aug 2001 14:38:33 -0700 Message-ID: <3B8ABDDC.7931DB6C@netscape.com> Date: Mon, 27 Aug 2001 16:38:36 -0500 From: dliston@netscape.com (Dan Liston) Organization: iPlanet eCommerce Solutions, A Sun|Netscape Alliance X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.78 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Jeff Graves Cc: majordomo-users@GreatCircle.COM Subject: Re: Service Unavailable References: <004c01c12f1d$e0c812d0$ce01c8c0@jefe> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk It is difficult to troubleshoot with such a small amount of information. Service unavailable most likely means your sendmail is configured to use smrsh, but there is not a link to the majordomo "wrapper" in the smrsh directory. Dan Lisotn Jeff Graves wrote: > > Hi all, new to the list. Downloaded tarball of 1.94.5 this morning. After > following the INSTALL file and performing the last step, I get this message > returned: > > ----- The following addresses had permanent fatal errors ----- > "|/mail/majordomo/wrapper majordomo" > (reason: service unavailable) > (expanded from: majordomo) > > ----- Transcript of session follows ----- > Message delivered to mailing list majordomo > smrsh: wrapper not available for sendmail programs > 554 5.0.0 "|/mail/majordomo/wrapper majordomo"... Service unavailable > > It looks like a sendmail configuration issue. Anyone know where/what > permissions I need to fix? > > Thanks, > > Jeff Graves > Customer Support Engineer > Image Source, Inc. > 10 Mill Street > Bellingham, MA 02019 > > 508.966.5200 X31 - Phone > 508.966.5170 - Fax > jeff@image-src.com - Email From majordomo-users-owner Mon Aug 27 15:09:14 2001 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-980720-1) id OAA19749; Mon, 27 Aug 2001 14:51:41 -0700 (PDT) Received: from blv-smtpout-01.boeing.com (blv-smtpout-01.boeing.com [192.161.36.5]) by honor.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 609B817EBD for ; Mon, 27 Aug 2001 14:51:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: from blv-av-01.boeing.com ([192.54.3.60]) by blv-smtpout-01.boeing.com (8.9.2/8.8.5-M2) with ESMTP id OAA09731; Mon, 27 Aug 2001 14:48:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: from blv-hub-01.boeing.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by blv-av-01.boeing.com (8.9.3/8.9.2/MBS-AV-01) with ESMTP id OAA15298; Mon, 27 Aug 2001 14:51:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: from slopok.roses.bna.boeing.com (slopok.roses.bna.boeing.com [141.102.33.160]) by blv-hub-01.boeing.com (8.11.3/8.11.3/MBS-LDAP-01) with ESMTP id f7RLpVi09940; Mon, 27 Aug 2001 14:51:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: from roses.bna.boeing.com (thorny [141.102.34.157]) by slopok.roses.bna.boeing.com (8.10.1/8.10.1) with ESMTP id f7RLpS303428; Mon, 27 Aug 2001 14:51:30 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <3B8AC0E0.2650800C@roses.bna.boeing.com> Date: Mon, 27 Aug 2001 14:51:28 -0700 From: Carlos Ramirez Organization: Boeing - Human Space Flight & Exploration X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.73 [en] (X11; U; SunOS 5.5.1 sun4u) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Richard Welty Cc: majordomo-users@GreatCircle.COM Subject: Re: Handling Attachments References: <3B8A9D51.A203540B@roses.bna.boeing.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk Richard Welty wrote: > > On Mon, 27 Aug 2001 12:19:45 -0700, you wrote: > > >Is it possible to strip attachments from messages before being sent out > >to the list? If not, can a message be bounced if an attachment is > >included? I've read through the docs but have not been able to find > >anything related to this. > > it's not part of majordomo, but there are a couple of mime strippers > out there. i've been quite happy with demime, > > http://scifi.squawk.com/demime.html > > richard It looks demime will solve my problems. Thanks! -- ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Carlos Ramirez + Boeing + Human Flight & Space Exploration + 714.372.4181 ------------------------------------------------------------------------- From majordomo-users-owner Mon Aug 27 15:24:00 2001 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-980720-1) id PAA20124; Mon, 27 Aug 2001 15:12:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: from sm14.texas.rr.com (sm14.texas.rr.com [24.93.35.41]) by honor.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4BD4A17EB4 for ; Mon, 27 Aug 2001 15:11:54 -0700 (PDT) Received: from 70D730B (cs666884-12.austin.rr.com [66.68.84.12]) by sm14.texas.rr.com (8.12.0.Beta16/8.12.0.Beta16) with SMTP id f7RMJFXD016508; Mon, 27 Aug 2001 17:19:33 -0500 From: Victor To: Cc: Subject: Parsing/Unparsing Digests Date: Mon, 27 Aug 2001 17:10:54 -0500 Reply-To: lights@onr.com Message-ID: References: <004c01c12f1d$e0c812d0$ce01c8c0@jefe> In-Reply-To: <004c01c12f1d$e0c812d0$ce01c8c0@jefe> X-Mailer: Forte Agent 1.8/32.548 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk I apologize if this message is off-topic for this list, but I don't know where else to ask it. There is a list I am a member of that is managed by Majordomo. Currently, the messages are only available in digest form. The owner is unwilling to allow individual email generation due to processing considerations. I find it very hard to navigate digests, so what I'd like to do is to have a script that can unparse the digest into individual emails. Ideally, I could set up an email address specifically for this purpose. All emails sent to this address will be unparsed into separate emails which are then forwarded to another address. Anyone know how to do this? ----------------------------------------------------------- Victor Engel lights@onr.com http://the-light.com From majordomo-users-owner Mon Aug 27 15:38:59 2001 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-980720-1) id PAA20271; Mon, 27 Aug 2001 15:22:04 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail.shaknet.net (mail.shaknet.net [204.245.156.85]) by honor.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7C4C117EB4 for ; Mon, 27 Aug 2001 15:21:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: from sparc5 (cc734076-e.hwrd1.md.home.com [24.180.192.55]) by mail.shaknet.net (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id f7RMILF02206; Mon, 27 Aug 2001 18:18:21 -0400 Message-Id: <200108272218.f7RMILF02206@mail.shaknet.net> Date: Mon, 27 Aug 2001 22:19:57 +0500 (GMT) From: Alan Shackelford Reply-To: Alan Shackelford Subject: Re: Service Unavailable To: jeff@image-src.com Cc: majordomo-users@GreatCircle.COM MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-MD5: i9n/MVwFPLzJx5G2lGgZtw== X-Mailer: dtmail 1.3.0 @(#)CDE Version 1.3.5 SunOS 5.7 sun4m sparc Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk In general, Jeff, sendmail likes to be sure a directory where a program sits is not world or group writeable before it will allow mailing to the program. I am not sure this is documented in exactly this way, but it has been my experience that the full path from the root all the way to the file itself must not be group or world writeable. Alan >From: "Jeff Graves" >To: >Subject: Service Unavailable >Hi all, new to the list. Downloaded tarball of 1.94.5 this morning. After >following the INSTALL file and performing the last step, I get this message >returned: > > ----- The following addresses had permanent fatal errors ----- >"|/mail/majordomo/wrapper majordomo" > (reason: service unavailable) > (expanded from: majordomo) > > ----- Transcript of session follows ----- >Message delivered to mailing list majordomo >smrsh: wrapper not available for sendmail programs >554 5.0.0 "|/mail/majordomo/wrapper majordomo"... Service unavailable > >It looks like a sendmail configuration issue. Anyone know where/what >permissions I need to fix? From majordomo-users-owner Mon Aug 27 15:53:58 2001 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-980720-1) id PAA20605; Mon, 27 Aug 2001 15:48:26 -0700 (PDT) Received: from netscape.com (r2d2.netscape.com [205.217.237.47]) by honor.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 594B717EB4 for ; Mon, 27 Aug 2001 15:48:17 -0700 (PDT) Received: from judge.mcom.com (judge.mcom.com [205.217.237.53]) by netscape.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with ESMTP id f7RMm2r22658 for ; Mon, 27 Aug 2001 15:48:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: from netscape.com ([205.217.228.168]) by judge.mcom.com (Netscape Messaging Server 4.15) with ESMTP id GIR0O300.GGX; Mon, 27 Aug 2001 15:48:03 -0700 Message-ID: <3B8ACE27.B5EE06F9@netscape.com> Date: Mon, 27 Aug 2001 17:48:07 -0500 From: dliston@netscape.com (Dan Liston) Organization: iPlanet eCommerce Solutions, A Sun|Netscape Alliance X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.78 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "Joe R. Jah" Cc: hawthorne@cybervpm.com, Majordomo-Users Subject: Re: Master password file was: (Quickie) References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk I had no idea the passwd command had been deprecated. This command still creates/updates the listname.passwd file rather than modifying the listname.config. It is a great tool for using a master password, but it is still much easier for list-owner's to send one simple command than it is to retrieve, modify, return, and re-write the config file just to change a password. The risk of unexpected word wrapping alone should be enough to prevent using the newconfig method of changing a password. Personally, I would prefer the command to be named newpasswd to fit the schema of newinfo, newintro, and newconfig commands, which write to (listname).info, .intro, and .config respectively. I am not certain, as I am not a majorcool user, but I would be willing to bet that it's password routines also depend on listname.passwd vs. modifying listname.config to update passwords. The only place in any of the documentation that I can find "deprecated" is in reference to arguments to the resend script. By documentation, I include FAQ, README, Archives, and source code. I will add however, that .strip, .private, .closed, .auto, and .hidden flag files also still work, but I think the settings in .config override them, and unlike the .passwd file, none of these files hold content. I have to play around a bit again, but these files may change the default settings of config_parse.pl when creating a new listname.config file if the flag files exist. Deprecated, perhaps. Still useful, definately. Dan Liston "Joe R. Jah" wrote: > > On Mon, 27 Aug 2001, Dan Liston wrote: > > > Date: Mon, 27 Aug 2001 13:50:31 -0500 > > From: Dan Liston > > To: hawthorne@cybervpm.com > > Cc: Majordomo-Users > > Subject: Re: Quickie > > > > Yes and no. This also depends on whether or not there is a > > listname.passwd > > file in the ~majordomo/lists/ directory. If there is, the admin_passwd > > setting in listname.config should be empty. > > The use of listname.passwd file has been deprecated since 1996, but > unfortunately for backward compatibility it is still possible to have it > around. If a list has both a listname.passwd and a non-blank admin_passwd > field in listname.config file the list would have two different valid > passwords;( > > To prevent that: > Create a "read only" master password file, and symbolically link all your > listname.password files to it. That will prevent any list owner from > overwriting their listname.password file, the deprecated practice; they > will have to use the newconfig command to change their password;) > > A side benefit for Majordomo owner is a master password for remote list > management;) > > Regards, > > Joe > -- > _/ _/_/_/ _/ ____________ __o > _/ _/ _/ _/ ______________ _-\<,_ > _/ _/ _/_/_/ _/ _/ ......(_)/ (_) > _/_/ oe _/ _/. _/_/ ah jjah@cloud.ccsf.cc.ca.us From majordomo-users-owner Mon Aug 27 16:09:29 2001 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-980720-1) id QAA20906; Mon, 27 Aug 2001 16:00:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: from netscape.com (r2d2.netscape.com [205.217.237.47]) by honor.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E9EA217EB4 for ; Mon, 27 Aug 2001 16:00:44 -0700 (PDT) Received: from judge.mcom.com (judge.mcom.com [205.217.237.53]) by netscape.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with ESMTP id f7RN0fr25103 for ; Mon, 27 Aug 2001 16:00:41 -0700 (PDT) Received: from netscape.com ([205.217.228.168]) by judge.mcom.com (Netscape Messaging Server 4.15) with ESMTP id GIR19603.6GT; Mon, 27 Aug 2001 16:00:42 -0700 Message-ID: <3B8AD11E.6492BE09@netscape.com> Date: Mon, 27 Aug 2001 18:00:46 -0500 From: dliston@netscape.com (Dan Liston) Organization: iPlanet eCommerce Solutions, A Sun|Netscape Alliance X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.78 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Ed Kasky Cc: majordomo-users@GreatCircle.COM Subject: Re: Tokens in headers and footers References: <4.3.2.7.2.20010827135058.00b61118@mail.esson.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk This would be nice to have (in some situations), but keep in mind that majordomo does not know who is a member of each list. It passes the message to sendmail via the outgoing alias for the list. Sendmail would have to stamp each message on it's way out the door, or the logic in majordomo would have to be rewritten to handle this before sendmail sees the message. If the latter option is chosen, remember that you would go from having one message with one large envelope, to many individual messages, each with it's own small envelope. Dan Liston Ed Kasky wrote: > > Is it possible to use tokens in message headers and footers taken from the > list.config? > > I'd like to put a line into a footer like "You are currently subscribed to > this list as email.address.com" > > Ed > ~~ > Ed Kasky > Los Angeles, CA > . . . . . . . . > In seeking wisdom, the first step is silence, the second listening, the > third remembering, the fourth practicing, the fifth -- teaching others. > -Ibn Gabirol, poet and philosopher (c. 1022-1058) From majordomo-users-owner Mon Aug 27 16:23:59 2001 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-980720-1) id QAA21224; Mon, 27 Aug 2001 16:16:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: from fred.krusty-motorsports.com (cm-24-161-28-112.nycap.rr.com [24.161.28.112]) by honor.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3A26017EB4 for ; Mon, 27 Aug 2001 16:16:51 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [10.1.1.18] (helo=zippy) by fred.krusty-motorsports.com with smtp (Exim 3.33 #2) id 15bVR1-0000cO-00; Mon, 27 Aug 2001 19:04:47 -0400 From: Richard Welty To: Carlos Ramirez Cc: majordomo-users@GreatCircle.COM Subject: Re: Handling Attachments Date: Mon, 27 Aug 2001 19:18:00 -0400 Message-ID: <16llot0bhip8heo21sgf3qai1drb0rt9pc@4ax.com> References: <3B8A9D51.A203540B@roses.bna.boeing.com> <3B8AC0E0.2650800C@roses.bna.boeing.com> In-Reply-To: <3B8AC0E0.2650800C@roses.bna.boeing.com> X-Mailer: Forte Agent 1.8/32.548 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk On Mon, 27 Aug 2001 14:51:28 -0700, Carlos Ramirez wrote: >Richard Welty wrote: >> it's not part of majordomo, but there are a couple of mime strippers >> out there. i've been quite happy with demime, =20 >> http://scifi.squawk.com/demime.html >> richard >It looks demime will solve my problems. Thanks! if you do go with demime, then also join demime-l, as you may find the list very helpful, particularly because the perl/CPAN stuff can be very confusing to people (such as myself) who are not particularly perl devotees. richard From majordomo-users-owner Mon Aug 27 16:44:44 2001 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-980720-1) id QAA21199; Mon, 27 Aug 2001 16:15:50 -0700 (PDT) Received: from netscape.com (c3po.netscape.com [205.217.237.46]) by honor.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 784E017EB4 for ; Mon, 27 Aug 2001 16:15:43 -0700 (PDT) Received: from judge.mcom.com (judge.mcom.com [205.217.237.53]) by netscape.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with ESMTP id f7RNFdk03506 for ; Mon, 27 Aug 2001 16:15:40 -0700 (PDT) Received: from netscape.com ([205.217.228.168]) by judge.mcom.com (Netscape Messaging Server 4.15) with ESMTP id GIR1Y503.2I6; Mon, 27 Aug 2001 16:15:41 -0700 Message-ID: <3B8AD4A1.AC3114AB@netscape.com> Date: Mon, 27 Aug 2001 18:15:45 -0500 From: dliston@netscape.com (Dan Liston) Organization: iPlanet eCommerce Solutions, A Sun|Netscape Alliance X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.78 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Carlos Ramirez Cc: majordomo-users@GreatCircle.COM Subject: Re: Handling Attachments References: <3B8A9D51.A203540B@roses.bna.boeing.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk Check out the majordomo-users archives at greatcircle.com for messages about "demime". This is a powerful tool that gives you options on how to handle what. http://scifi.squawk.com/demime.html Dan Liston Carlos Ramirez wrote: > > Is it possible to strip attachments from messages before being sent out > to the list? If not, can a message be bounced if an attachment is > included? I've read through the docs but have not been able to find > anything related to this. > > -Carlos > > -- > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- > Carlos Ramirez + Boeing + Human Flight & Space Exploration + > 714.372.4181 > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- From majordomo-users-owner Mon Aug 27 21:39:03 2001 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-980720-1) id VAA24854; Mon, 27 Aug 2001 21:27:23 -0700 (PDT) Received: from esson.net (esson.net [216.102.129.43]) by honor.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0077417EB3 for ; Mon, 27 Aug 2001 21:27:17 -0700 (PDT) Received: from Eds.wrenkasky.com (eds.wrenkasky.com [10.10.10.11]) by esson.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id VAA30142; Mon, 27 Aug 2001 21:27:19 -0700 Message-Id: <4.3.2.7.2.20010827212442.04a70ed0@mail.esson.net> X-Sender: ed@mail.esson.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 4.3.2 Date: Mon, 27 Aug 2001 21:27:15 -0700 To: dliston@netscape.com (Dan Liston) From: Ed Kasky Subject: Re: Tokens in headers and footers Cc: majordomo-users@GreatCircle.COM In-Reply-To: <3B8AD11E.6492BE09@netscape.com> References: <4.3.2.7.2.20010827135058.00b61118@mail.esson.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk I just thought that since majordomo uses the address token of someone when it sends the subscription confirmation that there was a way to pull that info out and use it in a list message as well.... But then that may be exhibiting my limited knowledge of the envelopes ;-) Ed At 06:00 PM Monday, 8/27/2001, Dan Liston wrote -=> >This would be nice to have (in some situations), but keep in mind that >majordomo does not know who is a member of each list. It passes the >message to sendmail via the outgoing alias for the list. Sendmail would >have to stamp each message on it's way out the door, or the logic in >majordomo would have to be rewritten to handle this before sendmail sees >the message. If the latter option is chosen, remember that you would go >from having one message with one large envelope, to many individual >messages, >each with it's own small envelope. > >Dan Liston > >Ed Kasky wrote: > > > > Is it possible to use tokens in message headers and footers taken from the > > list.config? > > > > I'd like to put a line into a footer like "You are currently subscribed to > > this list as email.address.com" > > > > Ed > > ~~ > > Ed Kasky > > Los Angeles, CA > > . . . . . . . . > > In seeking wisdom, the first step is silence, the second listening, the > > third remembering, the fourth practicing, the fifth -- teaching others. > > -Ibn Gabirol, poet and philosopher (c. 1022-1058) From majordomo-users-owner Tue Aug 28 05:39:15 2001 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-980720-1) id FAA02364; Tue, 28 Aug 2001 05:20:37 -0700 (PDT) Received: from tarpon.mitra.com (tarpon.mitra.com [192.190.75.5]) by honor.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D3B8A17E8B for ; Tue, 28 Aug 2001 05:20:19 -0700 (PDT) Received: from marlin.mitra.com (marlin.mitra.com [192.168.1.21] (may be forged)) by tarpon.mitra.com (8.10.1/8.10.1) with ESMTP id f7SCJMo24571; Tue, 28 Aug 2001 08:19:22 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from larry@localhost) by marlin.mitra.com (8.10.2+Sun/8.10.2) id f7SCJMJ08699; Tue, 28 Aug 2001 08:19:22 -0400 (EDT) From: Larry Williamson MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <15243.35914.147987.681828@mitra.com> Date: Tue, 28 Aug 2001 08:19:22 -0400 To: dliston@netscape.com Cc: majordomo-users@GreatCircle.COM Subject: Re: Can I avoid nexted subject prefixes on nested lists? In-Reply-To: Dan Liston's message of 27 August 2001 13:59:41 -0500 References: <15242.27171.354360.495662@mitra.com> <3B8A989D.17430AD7@netscape.com> X-Mailer: VM 6.88 under Emacs 21.0.104.1 Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk Hmm. This is an interesting suggestion. I'll try this out. Thanks. Dan Liston wrote: > Rather than adding the testers@domain.tld to the zubscriber file > for the coders list, why not change your alias for coders-outgoing > to :include:~majordomo/lists/testers, :include:~majordomo/lists/coders? > The order of the includes is not important. As long as the message > is not being sent back through resend at another address, there should > only be the one subject prefix. In this case, [coders]. > > Dan Liston > > Larry Williamson wrote: > > > > We have a couple of lists that have other lists listed in them. > > > > A hypothetical example to illustrate my problem... > > > > "testers" lists all the people in our testing group > > "coders" lists all our software writers > > > > We have added "testers" to the list of people in the "coders" list. > > > > Both "coders" and "testers" have $subject_prefix=[$LIST] > > > > So, when someone sends email to "coders", the people on testers see > > subject lines similar to... > > > > Subject: [testers][coders] fixed another bug > > > > The "testers" would rather not see both these prefixes in the Subject > > line, they want to see only the original list's prefix, ie. [coders]. > > > > But, of course, they do want their own prefix when testers is the list > > that was sent to. > > > > Does anyone know if I can make this work without having to dig in an > > modify the majordomo software's guts? > > > > I have probably half a dozen such lists. > > > > We are running version 1.94. From majordomo-users-owner Tue Aug 28 07:54:32 2001 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-980720-1) id HAA03738; Tue, 28 Aug 2001 07:48:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: from drizzle.com (cascadia.drizzle.com [216.162.192.17]) by honor.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8119317E8B for ; Tue, 28 Aug 2001 07:47:55 -0700 (PDT) Received: from n7j8l9 (splash221.drizzle.com [216.162.197.221]) by drizzle.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id f7SElpS25837 for ; Tue, 28 Aug 2001 07:47:52 -0700 Reply-To: From: "Nan Hawthorne" To: "Majordomo-Users" Subject: RE: Tokens in headers and footers Date: Tue, 28 Aug 2001 07:50:26 -0700 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 In-Reply-To: <4.3.2.7.2.20010827212442.04a70ed0@mail.esson.net> Importance: Normal Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk I don't know about you being ignorant, Ed. Makes sense to me. I assume $SENDER would not work? Nan in Seattle | < > X /X\ /X\ /X\ / X \ / X \ / X \ / X \ __/_____\__ From majordomo-users-owner Tue Aug 28 08:09:15 2001 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-980720-1) id HAA03777; Tue, 28 Aug 2001 07:54:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mailsrv.image-src.com (mailsrv.image-src.com [216.2.143.227]) by honor.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A075817E8B for ; Tue, 28 Aug 2001 07:54:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: from jefe (proxy.image-src.com [216.2.143.231]) by mailsrv.image-src.com (8.11.2/8.11.2) with SMTP id f7SEtAK20648 for ; Tue, 28 Aug 2001 10:55:10 -0400 From: "Jeff Graves" To: Subject: RE: Service Unavailable Date: Tue, 28 Aug 2001 10:54:14 -0400 Message-ID: <000d01c12fd1$4ddfafa0$ce01c8c0@jefe> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6700 In-Reply-To: <200108272218.f7RMILF02206@mail.shaknet.net> Importance: Normal Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk Thanks guys. Somehow when I read the FAQ I completely skipped over the answer to my question. Creating the link in /etc/smrsh solved my problem. Jeff Graves Customer Support Engineer Image Source, Inc. 10 Mill Street Bellingham, MA 02019 508.966.5200 X31 - Phone 508.966.5170 - Fax jeff@image-src.com - Email -----Original Message----- From: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM [mailto:majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM]On Behalf Of Alan Shackelford Sent: Monday, August 27, 2001 1:20 PM To: jeff@image-src.com Cc: majordomo-users@GreatCircle.COM Subject: Re: Service Unavailable In general, Jeff, sendmail likes to be sure a directory where a program sits is not world or group writeable before it will allow mailing to the program. I am not sure this is documented in exactly this way, but it has been my experience that the full path from the root all the way to the file itself must not be group or world writeable. Alan >From: "Jeff Graves" >To: >Subject: Service Unavailable >Hi all, new to the list. Downloaded tarball of 1.94.5 this morning. After >following the INSTALL file and performing the last step, I get this message >returned: > > ----- The following addresses had permanent fatal errors ----- >"|/mail/majordomo/wrapper majordomo" > (reason: service unavailable) > (expanded from: majordomo) > > ----- Transcript of session follows ----- >Message delivered to mailing list majordomo >smrsh: wrapper not available for sendmail programs >554 5.0.0 "|/mail/majordomo/wrapper majordomo"... Service unavailable > >It looks like a sendmail configuration issue. Anyone know where/what >permissions I need to fix? From majordomo-users-owner Tue Aug 28 12:57:40 2001 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-980720-1) id MAA08658; Tue, 28 Aug 2001 12:12:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: by honor.greatcircle.com (Postfix, from userid 1013) id 568C317E8B; Tue, 28 Aug 2001 12:12:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail.gmx.net (mail.gmx.net [213.165.64.20]) by honor.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with SMTP id CE76117EBC for ; Mon, 27 Aug 2001 09:45:30 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 6455 invoked by uid 0); 27 Aug 2001 16:45:28 -0000 Received: from tk212017118159.teleweb.at (HELO anonymous) (212.17.118.159) by mail.gmx.net (mp005-rz3) with SMTP; 27 Aug 2001 16:45:28 -0000 Message-ID: <001b01c12f17$a3cf2720$9f7611d4@telekabel.at> From: To: Subject: question about alias and majordomo restrict Date: Mon, 27 Aug 2001 18:38:55 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4807.1700 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4807.1700 Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk hello i am using Majordomo 1.94 with linux and sendmail so i have a alias like listname-outgoing: :include: /filenameofadresses so..normaly the wrapper checks who is allow to post but users can directly post to the outgoing alias without check listname-outgoing@domain.com of restrict_posting ..any ideas for disable that? thx From majordomo-users-owner Tue Aug 28 13:04:45 2001 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-980720-1) id MAA08595; Tue, 28 Aug 2001 12:10:53 -0700 (PDT) Received: by honor.greatcircle.com (Postfix, from userid 1013) id 4AF8017E8B; Tue, 28 Aug 2001 12:10:51 -0700 (PDT) Received: from esson.net (esson.net [216.102.129.43]) by honor.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E763217E8B for ; Sun, 26 Aug 2001 13:44:02 -0700 (PDT) Received: from Eds.wrenkasky.com (eds.wrenkasky.com [10.10.10.11]) by esson.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA21618 for ; Sun, 26 Aug 2001 13:44:03 -0700 Message-Id: <4.3.2.7.2.20010826134159.00b54588@mail.esson.net> X-Sender: ed@mail.esson.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 4.3.2 Date: Sun, 26 Aug 2001 13:44:01 -0700 To: majordomo-users@GreatCircle.COM From: Ed Kasky Subject: Help with digest #2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk I forgot to include the error message from the maillog in my last post: Aug 26 13:34:12 yoda sendmail[21577]: NAA21577:=20 to=3D"/usr/local/majordomo/wrapper digest -r -C -l test-digest=20 test-digest-list", ctladdr=3Dtest-digestify, delay=3D00:00:00, mailer=3D*file*, stat=3DCan't= create=20 output: Permission denied Ed ~~~ Ed Kasky Los Angeles, CA . . . . . . . . Everyone has a right to be stupid.=A0 Some just abuse the privilege. From majordomo-users-owner Tue Aug 28 13:19:45 2001 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-980720-1) id MAA08671; Tue, 28 Aug 2001 12:12:53 -0700 (PDT) Received: by honor.greatcircle.com (Postfix, from userid 1013) id EDD5317EB4; Tue, 28 Aug 2001 12:12:50 -0700 (PDT) Received: from beacon.beaconschool.org (unknown [209.2.216.2]) by honor.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 52E9117EBC for ; Mon, 27 Aug 2001 10:43:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (clehmann@localhost) by beacon.beaconschool.org (8.11.2/8.11.2) with ESMTP id f7RHgjx03892 for ; Mon, 27 Aug 2001 13:42:45 -0400 Date: Mon, 27 Aug 2001 13:42:45 -0400 (EDT) From: Chris Lehmann To: Subject: Permission problem... Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk So... majordomo was working just fine, we've got a ton of lists on our machine, and then... I made a change in my /etc/aliases file... *NOT* to any list-serv, I ran newaliases and now I get this error any time I try to post a message to a list-serv: 550 5.2.4 :include:/var/lib/majordomo/lists/mentor... Cannot open /var/lib/majordomo/lists/mentor: Permission denied I've tried it in /var/lib... in /usr/lib... everything has group writeable permissions turned off... I don't get it. Help! -- Chris -- "From what we get, we can make a living, what we give, makes a life" -- Arthur Ashe. From majordomo-users-owner Tue Aug 28 13:34:44 2001 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-980720-1) id MAA08335; Tue, 28 Aug 2001 12:06:10 -0700 (PDT) Received: by honor.greatcircle.com (Postfix, from userid 1013) id B021D17EB4; Tue, 28 Aug 2001 12:06:06 -0700 (PDT) Received: from chamois.propagation.net (unknown [66.34.76.1]) by honor.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 56ABF17EB5 for ; Thu, 23 Aug 2001 09:47:18 -0700 (PDT) Received: from v849cck41369nt.coachhost.com (iticwall.invstitle.com [199.72.149.189]) by chamois.propagation.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA04737 for ; Thu, 23 Aug 2001 11:49:19 -0500 Message-Id: <5.1.0.14.0.20010823124011.00a50c90@pop-server.nc.rr.com> X-Sender: briantuffy@coachhost.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Thu, 23 Aug 2001 12:46:34 -0400 To: Majordomo-Users@GreatCircle.COM From: Brian Tuffy Subject: Question about Deleting Lists Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk Good afternoon, I was wondering how one would go about deleting an "errant" list that they created?? I was "playing" with the majordomo lists and mistakenly created a mailing list that duplicates one of my email addresses on that domain. I know it would be helpful if I included the version numbers for Pearl, Majordomo and other software, but I am hoping that there will be a command that is generic to all conversions. Thanks in advance for any assistance you can provide. Regards, Brian Tuffy brian@coachhost.com - Mastering the Art of Possibility and Making It Reality - From majordomo-users-owner Tue Aug 28 13:49:51 2001 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-980720-1) id MAA08574; Tue, 28 Aug 2001 12:10:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: by honor.greatcircle.com (Postfix, from userid 1013) id C5D3917E8B; Tue, 28 Aug 2001 12:10:17 -0700 (PDT) Received: from esson.net (esson.net [216.102.129.43]) by honor.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6FED417E8B for ; Sun, 26 Aug 2001 12:11:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: from Eds.wrenkasky.com (eds.wrenkasky.com [10.10.10.11]) by esson.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA21174 for ; Sun, 26 Aug 2001 12:11:44 -0700 Message-Id: <4.3.2.7.2.20010826114341.00b74230@mail.esson.net> X-Sender: ed@mail.esson.net (Unverified) X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 4.3.2 Date: Sun, 26 Aug 2001 12:09:32 -0700 To: majordomo-users@GreatCircle.COM From: Ed Kasky Subject: Help wiht digest Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk I am trying to set up a digest for a list and am running into a permissions problem again - surprise, surprise ;-) I read the doc "Quick Digest Setup" and the section on digests in the O'Reilly book Managing Mailing Lists and thought I had all my ducks in a row on this one. Here's the error: 550 "/usr/local/majordomo/wrapper digest -r -C -l test-digest test-digest-list"... Can't create output: Permission denied Here are the aliases: test: "|/usr/local/majordomo/demime '== /usr/local/majordomo/wrapper resend -l test test-list,nobody'" test-list: :include:/usr/local/majordomo/lists/test,test-digestify test-digestify: "/usr/local/majordomo/wrapper digest -r -C -l test-digest test-digest-list" test-digest-list: :include:/usr/local/majordomo/lists/test-digest From majordomo.cf: $digest_work_dir = "/usr/local/mail/digest"; $filedir = "/usr/local/majordomo/archives"; $filedir_suffix = ""; Permissions: # ls -al /usr/local/mail drwxrwxr-x 4 majordom majordom 1024 Aug 26 11:26 . drwxr-xr-x 21 root root 1024 Aug 26 11:26 .. drwxrwxr-x 2 majordom majordom 1024 Aug 26 11:26 archive drwxrwxr-x 3 majordom majordom 1024 Aug 26 11:32 digest # ls -al /usr/local/mail/digest drwxrwxr-x 3 majordom majordom 1024 Aug 26 11:32 . drwxrwxr-x 4 majordom majordom 1024 Aug 26 11:26 .. drwxrwxr-x 2 majordom majordom 1024 Aug 26 11:32 test-digest #ls -al /usr/local/majordomo/archives drwxrwxr-x 5 majordom majordom 1024 Aug 26 10:37 . drwxr-xr-x 19 majordom majordom 2048 Jul 27 16:46 .. drwxrwxr-x 2 majordom majordom 1024 Aug 26 10:37 test-digest Any ideas on what I might have missed? It's probably staring me right in the face and I just can't see it. Thanks in advance if you can spot anything... ~~~~ Ed Kasky Los Angeles, CA . . . . . . . . A+ B + C = Success if, A = Hard Work, B = Hard Play, C = Keeping your mouth shut. - Albert Einstein From majordomo-users-owner Tue Aug 28 14:04:39 2001 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-980720-1) id MAA08324; Tue, 28 Aug 2001 12:06:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: by honor.greatcircle.com (Postfix, from userid 1013) id 1F38417E8B; Tue, 28 Aug 2001 12:06:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: from www.intexexhibits.com (unknown [63.82.99.146]) by honor.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id AAAD417EB5 for ; Thu, 23 Aug 2001 09:03:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: from 192 (user147.intexexhibits.com [63.82.99.147] (may be forged)) by www.intexexhibits.com (8.11.3/8.11.3) with SMTP id f7NG3QK11419 for ; Thu, 23 Aug 2001 09:03:26 -0700 Reply-To: From: "Jonathan Ziring" To: "majordomo-users@GreatCircle. COM" Subject: Automatic unsubscribe bounced mail Date: Thu, 23 Aug 2001 09:03:07 -0700 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 Importance: Normal Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk Hello All, This is the message I have been trying to post for a while now. Hope it goes through this time. I'm looking to fully automate the unsubscription of bounced mail addresses. I'm using RH 6.2, with perl 5.6.1, on majordomo 1.94.5 with TLB 0.11a if anyone knows of a script I can point the bounced mail to which will pull out the address and send mail or use the bounce mail generator to unsubscribe that address I would greatly appreciate it. Thank you in advance, -Jon Ziring My locally bounce messages come in like this, but remotely bounced mail can be different: >From MAILER-DAEMON@ns1.intexexhibits.com Tue Jul 31 11:11:57 2001 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (localhost) by ns1.intexexhibits.com (8.11.3/8.11.3) id f6VIBvl29417; Tue, 31 Jul 2001 11:11:57 -0700 Date: Tue, 31 Jul 2001 11:11:57 -0700 From: Mail Delivery Subsystem Message-Id: <200107311811.f6VIBvl29417@ns1.intexexhibits.com> To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/report; report-type=delivery-status; boundary="f6VIBvl29417.996603117/ns1.intexexhibits.com" Subject: Returned mail: see transcript for details Auto-Submitted: auto-generated (failure) Status: RO X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 38 This is a MIME-encapsulated message --f6VIBvl29417.996603117/ns1.intexexhibits.com The original message was received at Tue, 31 Jul 2001 11:11:56 -0700 from IDENT:daemon@ns1.intexexhibits.com [127.0.0.1] ----- The following addresses had permanent fatal errors ----- (reason: 550 Host unknown) ----- Transcript of session follows ----- 550 5.1.2 ... Host unkno wn (Name server: asdfasdfaewrqwetasdgxbcadst.awertqewrasdf: host not found) --f6VIBvl29417.996603117/ns1.intexexhibits.com Content-Type: message/delivery-status From majordomo-users-owner Tue Aug 28 14:08:03 2001 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-980720-1) id NAA09516; Tue, 28 Aug 2001 13:36:36 -0700 (PDT) Received: from cloud.ccsf.cc.ca.us (cloud.ccsf.cc.ca.us [147.144.1.212]) by honor.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8B8C417E8B for ; Tue, 28 Aug 2001 13:36:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (jjah@localhost) by cloud.ccsf.cc.ca.us (8.10.1/8.10.1) with ESMTP id f7SKZgh19205; Tue, 28 Aug 2001 13:35:42 -0700 (PDT) Date: Tue, 28 Aug 2001 13:35:42 -0700 (PDT) From: "Joe R. Jah" To: Dan Liston Cc: hawthorne@cybervpm.com, Majordomo-Users Subject: Re: Master password file was: (Quickie) In-Reply-To: <3B8ACE27.B5EE06F9@netscape.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk On Mon, 27 Aug 2001, Dan Liston wrote: > Date: Mon, 27 Aug 2001 17:48:07 -0500 > From: Dan Liston > To: Joe R. Jah > Cc: hawthorne@cybervpm.com, Majordomo-Users > Subject: Re: Master password file was: (Quickie) > > I had no idea the passwd command had been deprecated. This command > still creates/updates the listname.passwd file rather than modifying > the listname.config. It is a great tool for using a master password, > but it is still much easier for list-owner's to send one simple > command than it is to retrieve, modify, return, and re-write the > config file just to change a password. The risk of unexpected word > wrapping alone should be enough to prevent using the newconfig method > of changing a password. I agree that it is a lot easier to send a one line command than to send an entire file; however, that is also true for every other change in the configuration. The password is not necessarily the most frequently modified piece of information in Majordomo. > Personally, I would prefer the command to be named newpasswd to fit > the schema of newinfo, newintro, and newconfig commands, which write > to (listname).info, .intro, and .config respectively. I am not > certain, as I am not a majorcool user, but I would be willing to bet > that it's password routines also depend on listname.passwd vs. > modifying listname.config to update passwords. Majorcool, uses Majordomo to verify passwords; Majordomo looks both in .passwd and .config files for admin_passwd. However, Majorcool modifies the admin_passwd in the .config file, not in the .passwd file. > The only place in any of the documentation that I can find > "deprecated" is in reference to arguments to the resend script. By > documentation, I include FAQ, README, Archives, and source code. I > will add however, that .strip, .private, .closed, .auto, and .hidden > flag files also still work, but I think the settings in .config > override them, and unlike the .passwd file, none of these files hold > content. You are right; the documentation has left a lot to be desired;( I wish someone would take up the task of updating the FAQ; any takers?;) > I have to play around a bit again, but these files may change the > default settings of config_parse.pl when creating a new > listname.config file if the flag files exist. Deprecated, perhaps. > Still useful, definately. To make it even more useful you can apply the following patch: ftp://ftp.ccsf.org/majordomo-patches/1.94.5/passwd.0 Here is an excerpt from the patch: -----------------------------------8<------------------------------------ # This patch will change a long deprecated password behavior of Majordomo. # When receiving the command "passwd " the # patched majordomo will change the admin_passwd in the .config # file rather that the .passwd file; it leaves that file only for # global usage as a master password file. # # If you have old lists whose owners rely on .passwd file, make sure # to transfer the password to admin_passwd in the .config before # doing: # # rm .passwd; ln -s .passwd -----------------------------------8<------------------------------------ Regards, Joe -- _/ _/_/_/ _/ ____________ __o _/ _/ _/ _/ ______________ _-\<,_ _/ _/ _/_/_/ _/ _/ ......(_)/ (_) _/_/ oe _/ _/. _/_/ ah jjah@cloud.ccsf.cc.ca.us From majordomo-users-owner Tue Aug 28 17:22:56 2001 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-980720-1) id QAA11858; Tue, 28 Aug 2001 16:59:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: from esson.net (esson.net [216.102.129.43]) by honor.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5014F17E8B for ; Tue, 28 Aug 2001 16:59:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ekasky.wrenkasky.com (ekasky.usc.edu [128.125.63.168]) by esson.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id QAA03677 for ; Tue, 28 Aug 2001 16:59:39 -0700 Message-Id: <4.3.2.7.2.20010828165723.00b55a10@mail.esson.net> X-Sender: ed@mail.esson.net (Unverified) X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 4.3.2 Date: Tue, 28 Aug 2001 16:59:28 -0700 To: majordomo-users@greatcircle.com From: Ed Kasky Subject: re: Digest question Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk Dan Liston wrote on or about Tue, 21 Aug 2001 20:57:57 -0500: >The syntax above is incorrect. When you use anything other than >$list-digest-outgoing, you must use the name of the alias your are >sending to in your mkdigest command. >mkdigest oes2-test-digest oes2-test-digest-list Is this the command one would put in a cron job to force the mailing of a digest? From majordomo-users-owner Tue Aug 28 20:23:03 2001 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-980720-1) id TAA13438; Tue, 28 Aug 2001 19:59:56 -0700 (PDT) Received: from camaro.sonny.org (unknown [205.217.137.8]) by honor.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6A33A17E8B for ; Tue, 28 Aug 2001 19:59:49 -0700 (PDT) Received: from netscape.com (daniel.sonny.org [205.217.137.65]) by camaro.sonny.org (8.8.8/8.8.3) with ESMTP id VAA26602; Tue, 28 Aug 2001 21:59:47 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: <3B8C5AA3.148EB925@netscape.com> Date: Tue, 28 Aug 2001 21:59:47 -0500 From: Daniel Liston Organization: iPlanet eCommerce Solutions, A Sun|Netscape Alliance X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.75 [en] (X11; U; Linux 2.2.16-3 i686) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Ed Kasky Cc: majordomo-users@GreatCircle.COM Subject: Re: Digest question References: <4.3.2.7.2.20010828165723.00b55a10@mail.esson.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk Ed Kasky wrote: > > Dan Liston wrote on or about Tue, 21 Aug 2001 20:57:57 -0500: > > >The syntax above is incorrect. When you use anything other than > >$list-digest-outgoing, you must use the name of the alias your are > >sending to in your mkdigest command. > >mkdigest oes2-test-digest oes2-test-digest-list > > Is this the command one would put in a cron job to force the mailing of a > digest? Note: that the owner of the cron should be anything but majordomo or root. Majordomo will not reply to itself with the results. Here is what "I" do. I am the owner of a list, so I have a shell account. From my shell prompt, I execute `crontab -e` to edit or create a crontab file. This can also be done as the majordomo-owner. This crontab lives on the same host as majordomo. Here is a sample with lots of comments; SHELL=/bin/sh MAILTO="owner-majordomo@domain.tld" # # Every Friday morning at ~4:30 AM force digests to be sent # mail an mkdigest command to majordomo for weekly digests. 30 4 * * 5 echo mkdigest msft-digest msft-digest-0527 msft.admin | mail majordomo 31 4 * * 5 echo mkdigest test-digest test-digest-doit test.admin | mail majordomo # This broke when I upgraded majordomo to 1.94.5. # It want my fully qualified email address, so I editted # line 605 of majordomo.pl to use the 1.94.4 regex. # if (/\@/ && ! /\./) { # I changed line 177 of digest to fix another intermittent # problem where spooled messages were randomly skipped. # foreach (sort @files) { # #| | | | | ^here to % or EOL is field 6 for commands #| | | | +-- 3 letter day of week or 0-7. 0=Sun & 7=Sun #| | | +-- 3 letter month or 1-12 #| | +-- day 1-31 #| +-- hours 0-23 #+-- minutes 0-59 If you wanted a daily digest of the list, the easiest way is to set your maximums high enough to never be used, change -r to -R in your listname-digestify alias, and set the day of week in crontab to *. Dan Liston From majordomo-users-owner Tue Aug 28 21:53:00 2001 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-980720-1) id VAA14416; Tue, 28 Aug 2001 21:22:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: from camaro.sonny.org (unknown [205.217.137.8]) by honor.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8B48017E8B for ; Tue, 28 Aug 2001 21:22:41 -0700 (PDT) Received: from netscape.com (daniel.sonny.org [205.217.137.65]) by camaro.sonny.org (8.8.8/8.8.3) with ESMTP id XAA26912; Tue, 28 Aug 2001 23:22:37 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: <3B8C6E0D.68AB3FC8@netscape.com> Date: Tue, 28 Aug 2001 23:22:37 -0500 From: Daniel Liston Organization: iPlanet eCommerce Solutions, A Sun|Netscape Alliance X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.75 [en] (X11; U; Linux 2.2.16-3 i686) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: allround2@gmx.at Cc: Majordomo-Users@GreatCircle.COM Subject: Re: question about alias and majordomo restrict References: <001b01c12f17$a3cf2720$9f7611d4@telekabel.at> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk 1. Make sure your sendmail.cf has a line with Tmajordomo or whatever your majordomo's user name is. 2. Change the name of your listname-outgoing alias to something else unknown by your users. You might try listname-200108 3. Make sure your listname is using the resend script. listname: "|/pathtomajordomo/wrapper resend -l listname listname-200108,nobody" The ,nobody above prevents sendmail from advertising your new delivery address in the message headers. 4. If sendmail is configured to use virtusertable, add these lines to that file; listname-outgoing error:nouser User unknown listname-200108 error:nouser User unknown #NOTE: columns above are separated Dan Liston allround2@gmx.at wrote: > > hello > > i am using Majordomo 1.94 with linux and sendmail > > so i have a alias like > listname-outgoing: :include: /filenameofadresses > > so..normaly the wrapper checks who is allow to post but users can directly > post to the outgoing alias without check > listname-outgoing@domain.com > of restrict_posting ..any ideas for disable that? > > thx From majordomo-users-owner Tue Aug 28 22:07:59 2001 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-980720-1) id VAA14663; Tue, 28 Aug 2001 21:46:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: from camaro.sonny.org (unknown [205.217.137.8]) by honor.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id AB86F17E8B for ; Tue, 28 Aug 2001 21:46:22 -0700 (PDT) Received: from netscape.com (daniel.sonny.org [205.217.137.65]) by camaro.sonny.org (8.8.8/8.8.3) with ESMTP id XAA27012; Tue, 28 Aug 2001 23:46:25 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: <3B8C73A1.7D12B009@netscape.com> Date: Tue, 28 Aug 2001 23:46:25 -0500 From: Daniel Liston Organization: iPlanet eCommerce Solutions, A Sun|Netscape Alliance X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.75 [en] (X11; U; Linux 2.2.16-3 i686) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Brian Tuffy Cc: Majordomo-Users@GreatCircle.COM Subject: Re: Question about Deleting Lists References: <5.1.0.14.0.20010823124011.00a50c90@pop-server.nc.rr.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk How did you create this list "exactly"? Majordomo does not know how to create a list automagically. You must have done something. If all you did was touch a file in the lists directory, you are in no danger of this interferring with your regular address. If you created a list via a GUI of some sort, you will need your system admin to undo the damage. Dan Liston Brian Tuffy wrote: > > Good afternoon, > > I was wondering how one would go about deleting an "errant" list that they > created?? I was "playing" with the majordomo lists and mistakenly created > a mailing list that duplicates one of my email addresses on that domain. > > I know it would be helpful if I included the version numbers for Pearl, > Majordomo and other software, but I am hoping that there will be a command > that is generic to all conversions. > > Thanks in advance for any assistance you can provide. > > Regards, > Brian Tuffy > brian@coachhost.com > > - Mastering the Art of Possibility and Making It Reality - From majordomo-users-owner Tue Aug 28 22:23:00 2001 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-980720-1) id VAA14557; Tue, 28 Aug 2001 21:40:17 -0700 (PDT) Received: from camaro.sonny.org (unknown [205.217.137.8]) by honor.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E087617E8B for ; Tue, 28 Aug 2001 21:40:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: from netscape.com (daniel.sonny.org [205.217.137.65]) by camaro.sonny.org (8.8.8/8.8.3) with ESMTP id XAA26989; Tue, 28 Aug 2001 23:40:06 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: <3B8C7225.5E5B9AAA@netscape.com> Date: Tue, 28 Aug 2001 23:40:05 -0500 From: Daniel Liston Organization: iPlanet eCommerce Solutions, A Sun|Netscape Alliance X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.75 [en] (X11; U; Linux 2.2.16-3 i686) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Chris Lehmann Cc: majordomo-users@GreatCircle.COM Subject: Re: Permission problem... References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk Sounds more like somebody upgraded sendmail... Make sure /var/lib/majordomo/lists/mentor exists. Make sure /etc/aliases is owned by root and only writable by the owner. Make sure /, /usr, /var, /usr/lib, and /var/lib are not group or world writable. Make sure /usr/lib/majordomo and /var/lib/majordomo are not group or world writable. Make sure you have a link to /usr/lib/majordomo/wrapper in your /etc/smrsh (or equivalent) directory. This link should be owned by root. Do an `ls -lR /var/lib/majordomo` and make sure none of the files or directories are group or world writable, and that they are all owned by majordomo. Do the same for /usr/lib/majordomo. The only exception is that wrapper should be owned by and suid root. If all of the file and directory permission and ownership is correct, you really hosed up your /etc/aliases file. Revert back to your pre-edit copy and see if the problem goes away. If you don't have a backup copy of /etc/aliases, pray for a miracle that you are not discovered as the cause of the problem. Sorry, just joking. Examine your aliases file very closely. Look for any line wraps that are not actually wrapped from the previous line. Look for aliases that have white space in column 1. Look for aliases that do not have a : or a closing ". Dan Liston Chris Lehmann wrote: > > So... majordomo was working just fine, we've got a ton of lists on our > machine, and then... > > I made a change in my /etc/aliases file... *NOT* to any > list-serv, I ran newaliases and now I get this error any time I try to > post a message to a list-serv: > > 550 5.2.4 :include:/var/lib/majordomo/lists/mentor... Cannot open > /var/lib/majordomo/lists/mentor: Permission denied > > I've tried it in /var/lib... in /usr/lib... everything has group writeable > permissions turned off... I don't get it. > > Help! > > -- Chris > -- > "From what we get, we can make a living, what we give, makes a life" > -- Arthur Ashe. From majordomo-users-owner Tue Aug 28 22:37:59 2001 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-980720-1) id VAA14789; Tue, 28 Aug 2001 21:57:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: from camaro.sonny.org (unknown [205.217.137.8]) by honor.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 620E617E8B for ; Tue, 28 Aug 2001 21:57:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: from netscape.com (daniel.sonny.org [205.217.137.65]) by camaro.sonny.org (8.8.8/8.8.3) with ESMTP id XAA27056; Tue, 28 Aug 2001 23:57:15 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: <3B8C762B.B1F001D0@netscape.com> Date: Tue, 28 Aug 2001 23:57:15 -0500 From: Daniel Liston Organization: iPlanet eCommerce Solutions, A Sun|Netscape Alliance X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.75 [en] (X11; U; Linux 2.2.16-3 i686) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Ed Kasky Cc: majordomo-users@GreatCircle.COM Subject: Re: Help wiht digest References: <4.3.2.7.2.20010826114341.00b74230@mail.esson.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk Yep, it is staring you in the face. Look at the permissions on your /, /usr, /usr/local, /usr/local/mail, /usr/local/mail/digest, /usr/local/mail/archive, and /usr/local/mail/digest/test-digest directories. It looks like all of them are group writable to me. Hint: chmod -R go-w /usr/local/mail Dan Liston Ed Kasky wrote: > > I am trying to set up a digest for a list and am running into a > permissions problem again - surprise, surprise ;-) > > I read the doc "Quick Digest Setup" and the section on digests in the > O'Reilly book Managing Mailing Lists and thought I had all my ducks in a > row on this one. Here's the error: > > 550 "/usr/local/majordomo/wrapper digest -r -C -l test-digest > test-digest-list"... > Can't create output: Permission denied > > Here are the aliases: > test: "|/usr/local/majordomo/demime '== > /usr/local/majordomo/wrapper resend -l > test test-list,nobody'" > test-list: :include:/usr/local/majordomo/lists/test,test-digestify > test-digestify: "/usr/local/majordomo/wrapper digest -r -C -l test-digest > test-digest-list" > test-digest-list: :include:/usr/local/majordomo/lists/test-digest > > From majordomo.cf: > $digest_work_dir = "/usr/local/mail/digest"; > > $filedir = "/usr/local/majordomo/archives"; > $filedir_suffix = ""; > > Permissions: > > # ls -al /usr/local/mail > drwxrwxr-x 4 majordom majordom 1024 Aug 26 11:26 . > drwxr-xr-x 21 root root 1024 Aug 26 11:26 .. > drwxrwxr-x 2 majordom majordom 1024 Aug 26 11:26 archive > drwxrwxr-x 3 majordom majordom 1024 Aug 26 11:32 digest > > # ls -al /usr/local/mail/digest > drwxrwxr-x 3 majordom majordom 1024 Aug 26 11:32 . > drwxrwxr-x 4 majordom majordom 1024 Aug 26 11:26 .. > drwxrwxr-x 2 majordom majordom 1024 Aug 26 11:32 test-digest > > #ls -al /usr/local/majordomo/archives > drwxrwxr-x 5 majordom majordom 1024 Aug 26 10:37 . > drwxr-xr-x 19 majordom majordom 2048 Jul 27 16:46 .. > drwxrwxr-x 2 majordom majordom 1024 Aug 26 10:37 test-digest > > Any ideas on what I might have missed? It's probably staring me right in > the face and I just can't see it. Thanks in advance if you can spot > anything... > > ~~~~ > Ed Kasky > Los Angeles, CA > . . . . . . . . > A+ B + C = Success if, A = Hard Work, B = Hard Play, > C = Keeping your mouth shut. - Albert Einstein From majordomo-users-owner Wed Aug 29 00:53:01 2001 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-980720-1) id AAA16501; Wed, 29 Aug 2001 00:35:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: from camaro.sonny.org (unknown [205.217.137.8]) by honor.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 695DD17E8B for ; Wed, 29 Aug 2001 00:35:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: from netscape.com (daniel.sonny.org [205.217.137.65]) by camaro.sonny.org (8.8.8/8.8.3) with ESMTP id CAA27814; Wed, 29 Aug 2001 02:35:02 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: <3B8C9B25.59828DB@netscape.com> Date: Wed, 29 Aug 2001 02:35:01 -0500 From: Daniel Liston Organization: iPlanet eCommerce Solutions, A Sun|Netscape Alliance X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.75 [en] (X11; U; Linux 2.2.16-3 i686) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: David Padilla Cc: majordomo-users@greatcircle.com Subject: Re: Attachments References: <5800024.998674461851.JavaMail.imail@seamore.excite.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk Are you saying that the messages are coming through the list, but the files attached to the messages are not? How do you know the file was attached in the first place? If a message was bouncing to the list-owner address, I would think this might be a taboo filter either in majordomo.cf or the listname.config file itself. What is your configuration? OS? MTA? Version of majordomo? What do your aliases look like? What about your listname.config file? If you are using message_f(ron|oo)ter, any MIME in the message content will be destroyed. This includes attachments. Dan Liston David Padilla wrote: > > Hi, > > I have inherited a majordomo mailing list that is automatically stripping > attachments from messages sent to the list. When I look at the config file > for the list, I see that no taboo-headers or taboo-body regular expressions > have been set. Also the maxlength is set at 1000000 - I had heard that if > maxlength is too low then attachments get cut. > > We are not running anything like DEMIME to strip away the attachments. Does > > majordomo automatically stop attachments from going through? Any help on > this question would be greatly appreciated. From majordomo-users-owner Wed Aug 29 01:44:07 2001 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-980720-1) id AAA16426; Wed, 29 Aug 2001 00:27:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: from camaro.sonny.org (unknown [205.217.137.8]) by honor.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C8DA617E8B for ; Wed, 29 Aug 2001 00:26:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: from netscape.com (daniel.sonny.org [205.217.137.65]) by camaro.sonny.org (8.8.8/8.8.3) with ESMTP id CAA27776; Wed, 29 Aug 2001 02:26:50 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: <3B8C993A.F32B414E@netscape.com> Date: Wed, 29 Aug 2001 02:26:50 -0500 From: Daniel Liston Organization: iPlanet eCommerce Solutions, A Sun|Netscape Alliance X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.75 [en] (X11; U; Linux 2.2.16-3 i686) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Steve Maroney Cc: Majordomo Users Subject: config files (was: blank) References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk You are probably running your lists on a hosted service. If not, take a look at your majordomo.cf file. I think you will find the answer in your $listdir variable. Dan Liston Steve Maroney wrote: > > Hey guys, > > I have a problem with my list config files. When I fisrt started off with > out a restrict-post feature the config file got created in the same > direcotry with the list. > > Now that I take advantage of the restrict-post feature, the new config > files are created one dir. below the list directory. > > Below Im including my aliases file. > > Does anybody have a clue ? > > Sorry if this problem has already brought up before > > Thanks, > Steve Maroney > > -------------- > > scouters-lascouts: "| /usr/local/majordomo-1.94.5/wrapper resend -h lascouts.net -l scouters scouters-lascouts-outgoing,nouser" > scouters-lascouts-outgoing: :include:/usr/local/majordomo-1.94.5/lists/lascouts/scouters > scouters-approval: dale@lascouts.net > > tchoup-lascouts: "| /usr/local/majordomo-1.94.5/wrapper resend -h > lascouts.net -l tchoup tchoup-lascouts-outgoing,nouser" > tchoup-lascouts-outgoing: :include:/usr/local/majordomo-1.94.5/lists/lascouts/tchoup > tchoup-approval: dale@lascouts.net > owner-tchoup: dale@lascouts.net From majordomo-users-owner Wed Aug 29 01:55:06 2001 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-980720-1) id BAA16850; Wed, 29 Aug 2001 01:01:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: from camaro.sonny.org (unknown [205.217.137.8]) by honor.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C3BFF17EBD for ; Wed, 29 Aug 2001 01:00:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: from netscape.com (daniel.sonny.org [205.217.137.65]) by camaro.sonny.org (8.8.8/8.8.3) with ESMTP id DAA27913; Wed, 29 Aug 2001 03:00:16 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: <3B8CA118.4D588BA1@netscape.com> Date: Wed, 29 Aug 2001 03:00:24 -0500 From: Daniel Liston Organization: iPlanet eCommerce Solutions, A Sun|Netscape Alliance X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.75 [en] (X11; U; Linux 2.2.16-3 i686) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "Joe R. Jah" Cc: Majordomo-Users Subject: Re: Master password file was: (Quickie) References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk You are amazing Joe! I am considering using your patch to modify the functionality of the passwd, but retaining the old functionality with a new command called newpasswd. :) I hope this doesn't make you feel like Charlie Brown trying to kick a field goal while Lucy is holding the football. I really appreciate that you can come out with such an excellent patch in one day like you did. As for documentation, and the FAQ, doesn't David Barr do that? I will admit, that I have not submitted anything to be added, but might be able to suggest several paragraphs. :) I might even consider digging through my old posts and offering some of it as tutorial, HOW-TO, or documentation for the majordomo-docs list. If I am not part of the solution, I must be part of the problem, so I will try to avoid procrastinating and get some useful information submitted ASAP. It will be hard to avoid injecting my "opinions" though. :) Dan Liston "Joe R. Jah" wrote: > > On Mon, 27 Aug 2001, Dan Liston wrote: > > > Date: Mon, 27 Aug 2001 17:48:07 -0500 > > From: Dan Liston > > To: Joe R. Jah > > Cc: hawthorne@cybervpm.com, Majordomo-Users > > Subject: Re: Master password file was: (Quickie) > > > > I had no idea the passwd command had been deprecated. This command > > still creates/updates the listname.passwd file rather than modifying > > the listname.config. It is a great tool for using a master password, > > but it is still much easier for list-owner's to send one simple > > command than it is to retrieve, modify, return, and re-write the > > config file just to change a password. The risk of unexpected word > > wrapping alone should be enough to prevent using the newconfig method > > of changing a password. > > I agree that it is a lot easier to send a one line command than to send an > entire file; however, that is also true for every other change in the > configuration. The password is not necessarily the most frequently > modified piece of information in Majordomo. > > > Personally, I would prefer the command to be named newpasswd to fit > > the schema of newinfo, newintro, and newconfig commands, which write > > to (listname).info, .intro, and .config respectively. I am not > > certain, as I am not a majorcool user, but I would be willing to bet > > that it's password routines also depend on listname.passwd vs. > > modifying listname.config to update passwords. > > Majorcool, uses Majordomo to verify passwords; Majordomo looks both in > .passwd and .config files for admin_passwd. However, > Majorcool modifies the admin_passwd in the .config file, not in the > .passwd file. > > > The only place in any of the documentation that I can find > > "deprecated" is in reference to arguments to the resend script. By > > documentation, I include FAQ, README, Archives, and source code. I > > will add however, that .strip, .private, .closed, .auto, and .hidden > > flag files also still work, but I think the settings in .config > > override them, and unlike the .passwd file, none of these files hold > > content. > > You are right; the documentation has left a lot to be desired;( I wish > someone would take up the task of updating the FAQ; any takers?;) > > > I have to play around a bit again, but these files may change the > > default settings of config_parse.pl when creating a new > > listname.config file if the flag files exist. Deprecated, perhaps. > > Still useful, definately. > > To make it even more useful you can apply the following patch: > > ftp://ftp.ccsf.org/majordomo-patches/1.94.5/passwd.0 > > Here is an excerpt from the patch: > -----------------------------------8<------------------------------------ > # This patch will change a long deprecated password behavior of Majordomo. > # When receiving the command "passwd " the > # patched majordomo will change the admin_passwd in the .config > # file rather that the .passwd file; it leaves that file only for > # global usage as a master password file. > # > # If you have old lists whose owners rely on .passwd file, make sure > # to transfer the password to admin_passwd in the .config before > # doing: > # > # rm .passwd; ln -s .passwd > -----------------------------------8<------------------------------------ > > Regards, > > Joe > -- > _/ _/_/_/ _/ ____________ __o > _/ _/ _/ _/ ______________ _-\<,_ > _/ _/ _/_/_/ _/ _/ ......(_)/ (_) > _/_/ oe _/ _/. _/_/ ah jjah@cloud.ccsf.cc.ca.us From majordomo-users-owner Wed Aug 29 03:54:32 2001 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-980720-1) id DAA20837; Wed, 29 Aug 2001 03:17:55 -0700 (PDT) Received: from smtp2.concord.com (smtp2.concord.com [192.124.16.229]) by honor.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5FA2D17E8B for ; Wed, 29 Aug 2001 03:17:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: from exchng1.concord.com (unverified) by smtp2.concord.com (Content Technologies SMTPRS 4.2.1) with ESMTP id for ; Wed, 29 Aug 2001 06:24:23 -0400 Received: by exchng1.concord.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) id ; Wed, 29 Aug 2001 06:11:58 -0400 Message-ID: <672B00A685D0D411AF32009027D638570183F054@mdfrouter2-eng.concord.com> From: "LaPorta, Fab" To: majordomo-users@greatcircle.com Subject: The same post delivered to a few people a multiple of times Date: Wed, 29 Aug 2001 06:09:54 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk Any body know why Majordomo would keep sending a message to the same few people a multiple number of times? How can I stop that from happening? Thanks Fab LaPorta ********************************************************************** This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify the system manager. This footnote also confirms that this email message has been swept by the latest virus scan software available for the presence of computer viruses. ********************************************************************** From majordomo-users-owner Wed Aug 29 07:09:35 2001 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-980720-1) id GAA23022; Wed, 29 Aug 2001 06:37:30 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ns1.multizone.co.uk (unknown [212.47.88.146]) by honor.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1937A17E8B for ; Wed, 29 Aug 2001 06:37:19 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ukafox ([216.52.68.3]) by ns1.multizone.co.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id OAA03122 for ; Wed, 29 Aug 2001 14:37:47 +0100 From: "Angus Fox" To: Subject: Cobalt tips.. Date: Wed, 29 Aug 2001 09:36:47 -0400 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2479.0006 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <3B8C762B.B1F001D0@netscape.com> Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk Cobalt RAQ's ship with majordomo. But its only configurable with a web UI. I want to set up a digest but I'm scared of affecting other Cobalt stuff. Has anyone done this and should I be OK just to follow the o'reilly digest stuff. thanks Angus PS sorry this is a basic question. From majordomo-users-owner Wed Aug 29 09:23:09 2001 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-980720-1) id JAA24662; Wed, 29 Aug 2001 09:03:26 -0700 (PDT) Received: from camaro.sonny.org (unknown [205.217.137.8]) by honor.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8581717E8B; Wed, 29 Aug 2001 09:03:15 -0700 (PDT) Received: from netscape.com (daniel.sonny.org [205.217.137.65]) by camaro.sonny.org (8.8.8/8.8.3) with ESMTP id LAA29668; Wed, 29 Aug 2001 11:03:12 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: <3B8D1240.44E2A0EA@netscape.com> Date: Wed, 29 Aug 2001 11:03:12 -0500 From: Dan Liston Organization: iPlanet eCommerce Solutions, A Sun|Netscape Alliance X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.75 [en] (X11; U; Linux 2.2.16-3 i686) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "LaPorta, Fab" Cc: majordomo-users@greatcircle.com, majordomo-docs@greatcircle.com Subject: Re: The same post delivered to a few people a multiple of times References: <672B00A685D0D411AF32009027D638570183F054@mdfrouter2-eng.concord.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk "LaPorta, Fab" wrote: > > Any body know why Majordomo would keep sending a message to the same few > people a multiple number of times? How can I stop that from happening? > Your question is a good candidate for the FAQ. I would be willing to bet good money that majordomo is not sending the same message multiple times. If this is happening, it is your MTA that is to blame, and not majordomo. Typically, I have not seen this problem with exim, postfix, or qmail, so I will assume your MTA is sendmail. In order to help sendmail deliver the mailing list messages faster, 1. consider sorting your subscriber file by domain 2. verify the addresses in your list are valid and don't bounce 3. use bulk_mailer to split the deliveries into smaller chunks 4. change sendmail so the queue is not processed as often Dan Liston From majordomo-users-owner Wed Aug 29 10:08:06 2001 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-980720-1) id JAA24955; Wed, 29 Aug 2001 09:38:35 -0700 (PDT) Received: from smtp2.concord.com (smtp2.concord.com [192.124.16.229]) by honor.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6FA1917E8B; Wed, 29 Aug 2001 09:38:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: from exchng1.concord.com (unverified) by smtp2.concord.com (Content Technologies SMTPRS 4.2.1) with ESMTP id ; Wed, 29 Aug 2001 12:45:06 -0400 Received: by exchng1.concord.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) id ; Wed, 29 Aug 2001 12:32:39 -0400 Message-ID: <672B00A685D0D411AF32009027D638570183F060@mdfrouter2-eng.concord.com> From: "LaPorta, Fab" To: "'Dan Liston'" , "LaPorta, Fab" Cc: majordomo-users@greatcircle.com, majordomo-docs@greatcircle.com Subject: RE: The same post delivered to a few people a multiple of times Date: Wed, 29 Aug 2001 12:30:33 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk I took at Majordomo's log file and it looks like this one address was sending the help command to majordomo a few times. At least that's what it looks like to me I cant thinks of a reason why Majordomo would keep sending the help file to the same person every 2 minutes. I'm going to investigate further. Ps I'm using sendmail 8.9.3 Thanks Fab -----Original Message----- From: Dan Liston [mailto:dliston@netscape.com] Sent: Wednesday, August 29, 2001 12:03 PM To: LaPorta, Fab Cc: majordomo-users@greatcircle.com; majordomo-docs@greatcircle.com Subject: Re: The same post delivered to a few people a multiple of times "LaPorta, Fab" wrote: > > Any body know why Majordomo would keep sending a message to the same few > people a multiple number of times? How can I stop that from happening? > Your question is a good candidate for the FAQ. I would be willing to bet good money that majordomo is not sending the same message multiple times. If this is happening, it is your MTA that is to blame, and not majordomo. Typically, I have not seen this problem with exim, postfix, or qmail, so I will assume your MTA is sendmail. In order to help sendmail deliver the mailing list messages faster, 1. consider sorting your subscriber file by domain 2. verify the addresses in your list are valid and don't bounce 3. use bulk_mailer to split the deliveries into smaller chunks 4. change sendmail so the queue is not processed as often Dan Liston ********************************************************************** This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify the system manager. This footnote also confirms that this email message has been swept by the latest virus scan software available for the presence of computer viruses. ********************************************************************** From majordomo-users-owner Wed Aug 29 11:23:07 2001 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-980720-1) id KAA25785; Wed, 29 Aug 2001 10:58:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: from fred.krusty-motorsports.com (cm-24-161-28-112.nycap.rr.com [24.161.28.112]) by honor.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 63F9D17E8B for ; Wed, 29 Aug 2001 10:58:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [10.1.1.18] (helo=bill) by fred.krusty-motorsports.com with smtp (Exim 3.33 #2) id 15c9Pu-000140-00 for majordomo-users@GreatCircle.COM; Wed, 29 Aug 2001 13:46:18 -0400 From: Richard Welty To: majordomo-users@GreatCircle.COM Subject: Re: The same post delivered to a few people a multiple of times Date: Wed, 29 Aug 2001 14:00:02 -0400 Message-ID: References: <672B00A685D0D411AF32009027D638570183F054@mdfrouter2-eng.concord.com> <3B8D1240.44E2A0EA@netscape.com> In-Reply-To: <3B8D1240.44E2A0EA@netscape.com> X-Mailer: Forte Agent 1.8/32.548 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk On Wed, 29 Aug 2001 11:03:12 -0500, you wrote: >In order to help sendmail deliver the mailing list messages faster,=20 ... >4. change sendmail so the queue is not processed as often in my experience, it's #4, sendmail queue runs tripping over themselves. my experience was back in 1995, though; i'm suprised this is still an issue today, as i'm told that many of the things in sendmail that aggravated me in 1995 have been fixed. richard (exim user since 1996) From majordomo-users-owner Wed Aug 29 12:08:07 2001 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-980720-1) id LAA26316; Wed, 29 Aug 2001 11:41:41 -0700 (PDT) Received: from castro.queernet.org (castro.queernet.org [209.157.101.253]) by honor.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id BC91017E8B for ; Wed, 29 Aug 2001 11:41:37 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (rogerk@localhost) by castro.queernet.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) with ESMTP id f7TIfap14341 Date: Wed, 29 Aug 2001 11:41:36 -0700 (PDT) From: "Roger B.A. Klorese" To: Richard Welty Cc: Subject: Re: The same post delivered to a few people a multiple of times In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk On Wed, 29 Aug 2001, Richard Welty wrote: > in my experience, it's #4, sendmail queue runs tripping over > themselves. my experience was back in 1995, though; i'm suprised this > is still an issue today, as i'm told that many of the things in > sendmail that aggravated me in 1995 have been fixed. Queue entries are locked during delivery. If sendmail is rerunning queue items while they're already being run, your sendmail is misbuilt to use invalid locking. -- ROGER B.A. KLORESE rogerk@QueerNet.ORG PO Box 14309 San Francisco, CA 94114 "Go without hate. But not without rage. Heal the world." -- Paul Monette From majordomo-users-owner Wed Aug 29 13:23:11 2001 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-980720-1) id MAA27205; Wed, 29 Aug 2001 12:59:29 -0700 (PDT) Received: from camaro.sonny.org (unknown [205.217.137.8]) by honor.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D8D0117E8B for ; Wed, 29 Aug 2001 12:59:22 -0700 (PDT) Received: from netscape.com (daniel.sonny.org [205.217.137.65]) by camaro.sonny.org (8.8.8/8.8.3) with ESMTP id OAA00652; Wed, 29 Aug 2001 14:59:20 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: <3B8D4998.72DEA74C@netscape.com> Date: Wed, 29 Aug 2001 14:59:20 -0500 From: Dan Liston Organization: iPlanet eCommerce Solutions, A Sun|Netscape Alliance X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.75 [en] (X11; U; Linux 2.2.16-3 i686) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: allround2@gmx.at, majordomo-users@greatcircle.com Subject: Re: question about alias and majordomo restrict References: <001b01c12f17$a3cf2720$9f7611d4@telekabel.at> <3B8C6E0D.68AB3FC8@netscape.com> <003501c13068$ac7a1ae0$9f7611d4@telekabel.at> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk It looks like my tabs were converted to spaces in my example. /etc/mail/virtusertable: listname-outgoingerror:nouserUserunknown listname-200108error:nouserUserunknown The addresses above may need to be fully qualified for your domain. /etc/mail/virtusertable: listname-outgoing@gmx.aterror:nouserUserunknown listname-200108@gmx.aterror:nouserUserunknown This will not prevent local system users from sending messages directly to your delivery alias, but will stop users outside the local system from accessing this address directly. As for just changing the alias, I hope you also added the ,nobody so sendmail does not advertise this new alias in message headers. Dan Liston allround2@gmx.at wrote: > > thx but in 1.) i have change listname-outgoing so that in > > 4.) > 4. If sendmail is configured to use virtusertable, add > > these lines to that file; > > listname-outgoing error:nouser User unknown > > listname-200108 error:nouser User unknown > > #NOTE: columns above are separated > > no listname-outgoing is (changet to new alias...with no users known) > is this ok so? > > cyaFrom: "Daniel Liston" > To: > Cc: > Sent: Wednesday, August 29, 2001 6:22 AM > Subject: Re: question about alias and majordomo restrict > > > 1. Make sure your sendmail.cf has a line with > > Tmajordomo > > or whatever your majordomo's user name is. > > > > 2. Change the name of your listname-outgoing alias to > > something else unknown by your users. You might try > > listname-200108 > > > > 3. Make sure your listname is using the resend script. > > listname: "|/pathtomajordomo/wrapper resend -l listname > listname-200108,nobody" > > The ,nobody above prevents sendmail from advertising your > > new delivery address in the message headers. > > > > 4. If sendmail is configured to use virtusertable, add > > these lines to that file; > > listname-outgoing error:nouser User unknown > > listname-200108 error:nouser User unknown > > #NOTE: columns above are separated > > > > Dan Liston > > > > allround2@gmx.at wrote: > > > > > > hello > > > > > > i am using Majordomo 1.94 with linux and sendmail > > > > > > so i have a alias like > > > listname-outgoing: :include: /filenameofadresses > > > > > > so..normaly the wrapper checks who is allow to post but users can > directly > > > post to the outgoing alias without check > > > listname-outgoing@domain.com > > > of restrict_posting ..any ideas for disable that? > > > > > > thx > > From majordomo-users-owner Wed Aug 29 18:07:38 2001 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-980720-1) id RAA00322; Wed, 29 Aug 2001 17:47:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: from smtp.popsite.net (smtp.popsite.net [216.126.128.16]) by honor.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id EA47D17EB1 for ; Wed, 29 Aug 2001 17:47:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ibis (05-025.021.popsite.net [192.216.197.25]) by smtp.popsite.net (Postfix) with SMTP id 0EB7DFF2C for ; Wed, 29 Aug 2001 19:47:15 -0500 (CDT) From: "Carol Stone" To: Subject: RE: Cobalt tips.. Date: Wed, 29 Aug 2001 20:45:43 -0400 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 In-Reply-To: Importance: Normal Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk I am quoting a member of the Cobalt users group...who happens to be in the room with me :) "The advice on the Cobalt users' list is if you want to do anything that you can't do through the Cobalt UI, install a second copy of majordomo, because the UI will over-write the majordomo configuration file. See the list archives, which is under http://www.cobalt.com/support/resources/usergroups.html - not sure if it's in the users or developer's list. You'll probably find this question answered in both lists." hope this helps, -carol -----Original Message----- From: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM [mailto:majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM]On Behalf Of Angus Fox Sent: Wednesday, August 29, 2001 9:37 AM To: majordomo-users@GreatCircle.COM Subject: Cobalt tips.. Cobalt RAQ's ship with majordomo. But its only configurable with a web UI. I want to set up a digest but I'm scared of affecting other Cobalt stuff. Has anyone done this and should I be OK just to follow the o'reilly digest stuff. thanks Angus PS sorry this is a basic question. From majordomo-users-owner Thu Aug 30 05:24:20 2001 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-980720-1) id FAA08994; Thu, 30 Aug 2001 05:03:43 -0700 (PDT) Received: from delphi.aub.auc.dk (delphi.aub.auc.dk [130.225.53.13]) by honor.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D92E817EB0 for ; Thu, 30 Aug 2001 05:03:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: by delphi.aub.auc.dk with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) id ; Thu, 30 Aug 2001 14:03:25 +0200 Message-ID: <0F0A1328A705D111858F00805F15FAD8B17A04@delphi.aub.auc.dk> From: Anders Hertz To: majordomo-users@GreatCircle.COM Date: Thu, 30 Aug 2001 14:03:19 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk Hiya list I=B4m playing a little with Majordomo and digests. It actually works = (more or less). The problem I got is: It seems like there is writte an empty mail in the top of the digest. Should do that ? Or how do I tell it to stop that .-) Using exim instead of sendmail in Unix. Outlook in windows as client. ##### Test-digest Thursday, August 30 2001 Volume 01 : Number = 034 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date:=20 From:=20 Subject: [none] ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 30 Aug 2001 13:37:28 +0200 From: Anders Hertz Subject: Tester Majordomo again Hello World ? ###### Regards Anders Hertz Aalborg Universitety Library From majordomo-users-owner Thu Aug 30 07:08:14 2001 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-980720-1) id GAA09924; Thu, 30 Aug 2001 06:49:10 -0700 (PDT) Received: from raq.willspc.net (unknown [216.29.244.108]) by honor.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A01DD17EB0 for ; Thu, 30 Aug 2001 06:48:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mackerel ([38.194.171.167]) by raq.willspc.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id JAA12749 for ; Thu, 30 Aug 2001 09:48:56 -0400 Message-ID: <00dd01c1315b$47696900$6701d50a@mackerel> From: "Will Nordmeyer" To: Subject: Problems running majordomo/majorcool on a Cobalt RAQ3 Date: Thu, 30 Aug 2001 09:54:23 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_00DA_01C13139.BF5B1980" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4807.1700 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4807.1700 Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_00DA_01C13139.BF5B1980 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi, I installed and am trying to run majorcool on my Cobalt RAQ3 (majordomo = was already installed). I put the Majordomo script file in the bin directory of a specific = website (for testing right now). When I tried going to http://www.website.com/bin/Majordomo, it opened = the script file as a text file on screen, I could read the script. =20 I changed the Majordomo file to be Majordomo.pl. Now when I run the = script, I get an internal server error and the Apache error log shows: [Thu Aug 30 09:43:04 2001] [error] [client 38.194.171.167]=20 Premature end of script headers: /home/sites/site3/web/bin/Majordomo.pl = ------=_NextPart_000_00DA_01C13139.BF5B1980 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hi,
 
I installed and am trying to run = majorcool on my=20 Cobalt RAQ3 (majordomo was already installed).
 
I put the Majordomo script file in the = bin=20 directory of a specific website (for testing right now).
 
When I tried going to http://www.website.com/bin/= Majordomo,=20 it opened the script file as a text file on screen, I could read the=20 script. 
 
I changed the Majordomo file to be=20 Majordomo.pl.  Now when I run the script, I get an internal server = error=20 and the Apache error log shows:
 
[Thu Aug 30 09:43:04 2001] [error] = [client=20 38.194.171.167]
Premature end of script headers:=20 /home/sites/site3/web/bin/Majordomo.pl 
 
------=_NextPart_000_00DA_01C13139.BF5B1980-- From majordomo-users-owner Thu Aug 30 09:37:48 2001 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-980720-1) id JAA11301; Thu, 30 Aug 2001 09:08:55 -0700 (PDT) Received: from drizzle.com (cascadia.drizzle.com [216.162.192.17]) by honor.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E9FD117EB0 for ; Thu, 30 Aug 2001 09:08:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: from n7j8l9 (splash221.drizzle.com [216.162.197.221]) by drizzle.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id f7UG8jU24481 for ; Thu, 30 Aug 2001 09:08:45 -0700 Reply-To: From: "Nan Hawthorne" To: "Majordomo-Users" Subject: How to avoid this Date: Thu, 30 Aug 2001 09:11:20 -0700 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 Importance: Normal Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk Here is a nice newbie question for you... What is the winmail.dat stuff and is there anything I can do on the listowner end to keep it from showing up? Nan From: owner-cybervpm-digest@angus.mystery.com on behalf of cybervpm-digest [owner-cybervpm-digest@angus.mystery.com] Sent: Wednesday, August 29, 2001 9:00 PM To: cybervpm-digest@angus.mystery.com Subject: cybervpm-digest V1 #23 cybervpm-digest Wednesday, August 29 2001 Volume 01 : Number 023 In this issue: [CYBERVPM] Statistic See the end of the digest for information on subscribing to the CyberVPM or CyberVPM-digest mailing lists and on how to retrieve back issues. {#} Replies to this digest are directed to cybervpm@angus.mystery.com ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Wed, 29 Aug 2001 16:50:29 -0500 From: Dionna Mitchell Subject: [CYBERVPM] Statistic This is a multi-part message in MIME format. - ------=_NextPart_000_0000_01C130AA.B5F39E60 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hello everyone! I'm frantically searching for a statistic about volunteers that goes something like this... Youth who volunteer are ___ times more likely to volunteer as adults. Can anyone fill in the blank?? If you can, please reply directly to me at dionnakay@hotmail.com as soon as possible! 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From majordomo-users-owner Thu Aug 30 09:59:17 2001 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-980720-1) id JAA11519; Thu, 30 Aug 2001 09:33:26 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mailsrv.image-src.com (mailsrv.image-src.com [216.2.143.227]) by honor.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7054E17EB0 for ; Thu, 30 Aug 2001 09:33:19 -0700 (PDT) Received: from jefe (proxy.image-src.com [216.2.143.231]) by mailsrv.image-src.com (8.11.2/8.11.2) with SMTP id f7UGYVs26611 for ; Thu, 30 Aug 2001 12:34:31 -0400 From: "Jeff Graves" To: "Majordomo List" Subject: 3+ hour delay Date: Thu, 30 Aug 2001 12:33:26 -0400 Message-ID: <003601c13171$7eb2b130$ce01c8c0@jefe> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6700 Importance: Normal Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk What's up with the 3+ hour delay on messages sent to this list? Jeff Graves Customer Support Engineer Image Source, Inc. 10 Mill Street Bellingham, MA 02019 508.966.5200 X31 - Phone 508.966.5170 - Fax jeff@image-src.com - Email From majordomo-users-owner Thu Aug 30 10:05:11 2001 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-980720-1) id JAA11473; Thu, 30 Aug 2001 09:28:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nugget.corecom.net (nugget.corecom.net [216.47.3.21]) by honor.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6625117EB0 for ; Thu, 30 Aug 2001 09:28:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: from poppy.ahfc.state.ak.us (poppy.ahfc.state.ak.us [205.159.28.20]) by nugget.corecom.net (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f7UGVIb04863 for ; Thu, 30 Aug 2001 08:31:18 -0800 (AKDT) Message-ID: Date: Thu, 30 Aug 2001 08:29:43 -0800 From: Marc Grober MIME-Version: 1.0 To: majordomo-users@greatcircle.com Subject: Welcome message Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk I would like to be able to put a custom welcome message for a list (intro file?) before the generic welcome message. Where in the code is the Welcome message getting pulled from? Is there more detail in the docs on intro vs info file (am I correct in concluding that the info file is the file that will be pulled if a user asks majordomo for list info, and that this file will be sent on subscription unless there is an intro file in which case the into file is sent? From majordomo-users-owner Thu Aug 30 10:30:40 2001 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-980720-1) id JAA11389; Thu, 30 Aug 2001 09:20:17 -0700 (PDT) Received: from cloud.ccsf.cc.ca.us (cloud.ccsf.cc.ca.us [147.144.1.212]) by honor.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6CBB117EB0 for ; Thu, 30 Aug 2001 09:20:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (jjah@localhost) by cloud.ccsf.cc.ca.us (8.11.6/8.10.1) with ESMTP id f7UGJKL23848; Thu, 30 Aug 2001 09:19:20 -0700 (PDT) Date: Thu, 30 Aug 2001 09:19:20 -0700 (PDT) From: "Joe R. Jah" To: Daniel Liston Cc: Majordomo-Users Subject: Re: Master password file was: (Quickie) In-Reply-To: <3B8CA118.4D588BA1@netscape.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk On Wed, 29 Aug 2001, Daniel Liston wrote: > Date: Wed, 29 Aug 2001 03:00:24 -0500 > From: Daniel Liston > To: Joe R. Jah > Cc: Majordomo-Users > Subject: Re: Master password file was: (Quickie) > > You are amazing Joe! I am considering using your patch to modify the > functionality of the passwd, but retaining the old functionality with > a new command called newpasswd. :) I hope this doesn't make you feel > like Charlie Brown trying to kick a field goal while Lucy is holding > the football. I really appreciate that you can come out with such an > excellent patch in one day like you did. I am not sure if I understand what you mean with the "old functionality." The patched Majordomo will still obey the password command and change the password; it only saves the password where it should have done originally, in the .config file. > As for documentation, and the FAQ, doesn't David Barr do that? I will > admit, that I have not submitted anything to be added, but might be > able to suggest several paragraphs. :) I might even consider digging > through my old posts and offering some of it as tutorial, HOW-TO, or > documentation for the majordomo-docs list. If I am not part of the > solution, I must be part of the problem, so I will try to avoid > procrastinating and get some useful information submitted ASAP. It > will be hard to avoid injecting my "opinions" though. :) Thanks to Dave Barr, the FAQ is the most up-to-date Majordomo document. I am sure a great deal of your posts are in the FAQ. They are all, of course, in the list archives enriching the documentation. Many Majordomo users are grateful for your invaluable contributions. I have taken advantage of too many of your posts on this list to remember them all, or express the proper gratitude. I know that is not your motivation, so I won't even try;) Regards, Joe -- _/ _/_/_/ _/ ____________ __o _/ _/ _/ _/ ______________ _-\<,_ _/ _/ _/_/_/ _/ _/ ......(_)/ (_) _/_/ oe _/ _/. _/_/ ah jjah@cloud.ccsf.cc.ca.us > "Joe R. Jah" wrote: > > > > On Mon, 27 Aug 2001, Dan Liston wrote: > > > > > Date: Mon, 27 Aug 2001 17:48:07 -0500 > > > From: Dan Liston > > > To: Joe R. Jah > > > Cc: hawthorne@cybervpm.com, Majordomo-Users > > > Subject: Re: Master password file was: (Quickie) > > > > > > I had no idea the passwd command had been deprecated. This command > > > still creates/updates the listname.passwd file rather than modifying > > > the listname.config. It is a great tool for using a master password, > > > but it is still much easier for list-owner's to send one simple > > > command than it is to retrieve, modify, return, and re-write the > > > config file just to change a password. The risk of unexpected word > > > wrapping alone should be enough to prevent using the newconfig method > > > of changing a password. > > > > I agree that it is a lot easier to send a one line command than to send an > > entire file; however, that is also true for every other change in the > > configuration. The password is not necessarily the most frequently > > modified piece of information in Majordomo. > > > > > Personally, I would prefer the command to be named newpasswd to fit > > > the schema of newinfo, newintro, and newconfig commands, which write > > > to (listname).info, .intro, and .config respectively. I am not > > > certain, as I am not a majorcool user, but I would be willing to bet > > > that it's password routines also depend on listname.passwd vs. > > > modifying listname.config to update passwords. > > > > Majorcool, uses Majordomo to verify passwords; Majordomo looks both in > > .passwd and .config files for admin_passwd. However, > > Majorcool modifies the admin_passwd in the .config file, not in the > > .passwd file. > > > > > The only place in any of the documentation that I can find > > > "deprecated" is in reference to arguments to the resend script. By > > > documentation, I include FAQ, README, Archives, and source code. I > > > will add however, that .strip, .private, .closed, .auto, and .hidden > > > flag files also still work, but I think the settings in .config > > > override them, and unlike the .passwd file, none of these files hold > > > content. > > > > You are right; the documentation has left a lot to be desired;( I wish > > someone would take up the task of updating the FAQ; any takers?;) > > > > > I have to play around a bit again, but these files may change the > > > default settings of config_parse.pl when creating a new > > > listname.config file if the flag files exist. Deprecated, perhaps. > > > Still useful, definately. > > > > To make it even more useful you can apply the following patch: > > > > ftp://ftp.ccsf.org/majordomo-patches/1.94.5/passwd.0 > > > > Here is an excerpt from the patch: > > -----------------------------------8<------------------------------------ > > # This patch will change a long deprecated password behavior of Majordomo. > > # When receiving the command "passwd " the > > # patched majordomo will change the admin_passwd in the .config > > # file rather that the .passwd file; it leaves that file only for > > # global usage as a master password file. > > # > > # If you have old lists whose owners rely on .passwd file, make sure > > # to transfer the password to admin_passwd in the .config before > > # doing: > > # > > # rm .passwd; ln -s .passwd > > -----------------------------------8<------------------------------------ > > > > Regards, > > > > Joe > > -- > > _/ _/_/_/ _/ ____________ __o > > _/ _/ _/ _/ ______________ _-\<,_ > > _/ _/ _/_/_/ _/ _/ ......(_)/ (_) > > _/_/ oe _/ _/. _/_/ ah jjah@cloud.ccsf.cc.ca.us From majordomo-users-owner Thu Aug 30 12:03:04 2001 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-980720-1) id LAA12772; Thu, 30 Aug 2001 11:33:15 -0700 (PDT) Received: from chinet.chinet.com (chinet.com [64.232.6.20]) by honor.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 56DD317EB0 for ; Thu, 30 Aug 2001 11:33:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (ahk@localhost) by chinet.chinet.com (8.11.2/8.9.3) with ESMTP id f7UIWVs28269 for ; Thu, 30 Aug 2001 13:32:31 -0500 Date: Thu, 30 Aug 2001 13:32:31 -0500 (CDT) From: "Adam H. Kerman" To: Majordomo-Users Subject: Re: How to avoid this In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk On 08/30/01, at 9:11am -0700, Nan Hawthorne wrote: >What is the winmail.dat stuff Some evil proprietary Microsoft uuencoded binary attachment NOT in MIME. Tell the subscriber to turn the feature off. >and is there anything I can do on the listowner end to keep it from showing >up? That's what taboo_body is for, to catch nonsense like that. # taboo_body [regexp_array] (undef) # If any line of the body matches one of these regexps, then the # message will be bounced for review. taboo_body << END /X-Majordomo-Version:/i [This header added to outgoing mail to traps loops.] //i /content-transfer-encoding\:.*quoted-printable/i /owner-[listname]-digest\@[domain]/i /owner-[listname]\@[domain]/i /Volume [nn] : Number/i [This prevents quotes of entire digests from posting.] /winmail.dat/i [This should trap it.] /out of the office/i [To trap common broken vacation responders.] /out of office/i END # taboo_headers [regexp_array] (undef) # If any of the headers matches one of these regexps, then the # message will be bounced for review. taboo_headers << END /.*su.*sc.*ibe/i /X-Majordomo-Version:/i /^to:.*owner-[listname]/i [Certain Mail clients confuse the Sender and list- posting addresses; it's annoying] /^to:.*\,.*/i [To prevent posting to nonmembers and other mailing lists] /^cc:/i /content-transfer-encoding:.*quoted-printable/i [Various traps for attachments] /content-type: .*multipart/i /^subject: *$/i /^subject:.*Volume [nn] : Number/i /^subject:.*V[n] \#/i /^subject:.*to:.*[listname].*/i [To trap messages with broken headers] /^subject:.*reply.*/i [To protest that damnably annoying client that won't the Re: convention] /^subject:.*adv:.*/i /uuencode/i [To generically trap uuencoding] /x-ms-attachment/i /winmail.dat/i END From majordomo-users-owner Thu Aug 30 13:11:42 2001 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-980720-1) id MAA13588; Thu, 30 Aug 2001 12:49:26 -0700 (PDT) Received: from sparkie.elmo.osl.state.or.us (elmo.osl.state.or.us [159.121.122.35]) by honor.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 56F1617EB0 for ; Thu, 30 Aug 2001 12:49:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: by sparkie.elmo.osl.state.or.us (Postfix, from userid 1006) id 3749D1ED04; Thu, 30 Aug 2001 12:49:16 -0700 (PDT) Date: Thu, 30 Aug 2001 12:49:15 -0700 (PDT) From: "Christopher A. Adams" X-Sender: chris@elmo.osl.state.or.us To: Marc Grober Cc: majordomo-users@greatcircle.com Subject: Re: Welcome message In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk You are correct. The welcome message text is found in the majordomo file in the majordomo directory. On Thu, 30 Aug 2001, Marc Grober wrote: > I would like to be able to put a custom welcome message for a list > (intro file?) before the generic welcome message. > Where in the code is the Welcome message getting pulled from? > Is there more detail in the docs on intro vs info file (am I correct in > concluding that the info file is the file that will be pulled if a user > asks majordomo for list info, and that this file will be sent on > subscription unless there is an intro file in which case the into file > is sent? > > > Christopher Adams Automated Systems Oregon State Library chris@sparkie.osl.state.or.us From majordomo-users-owner Thu Aug 30 14:12:51 2001 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-980720-1) id NAA14162; Thu, 30 Aug 2001 13:45:33 -0700 (PDT) Received: from fred.krusty-motorsports.com (cm-24-161-28-112.nycap.rr.com [24.161.28.112]) by honor.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D85E717EB0 for ; Thu, 30 Aug 2001 13:45:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [10.1.1.18] (helo=bill) by fred.krusty-motorsports.com with smtp (Exim 3.33 #2) id 15cYV3-0001Lt-00 for majordomo-users@GreatCircle.COM; Thu, 30 Aug 2001 16:33:17 -0400 From: Richard Welty To: Majordomo-Users Subject: Re: How to avoid this Date: Thu, 30 Aug 2001 16:47:04 -0400 Message-ID: References: In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: Forte Agent 1.8/32.548 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk On Thu, 30 Aug 2001 13:32:31 -0500 (CDT), Adam H. Kerman wrote: >On 08/30/01, at 9:11am -0700, Nan Hawthorne = wrote: >>What is the winmail.dat stuff >Some evil proprietary Microsoft uuencoded binary attachment NOT in MIME.= Tell >the subscriber to turn the feature off. >>and is there anything I can do on the listowner end to keep it from = showing >>up? >That's what taboo_body is for, to catch nonsense like that. that's what i used to do, but it puts bounces in the admin inbox. now i use demime, and the winmail.dat files just magically disappear. cheers, richard From majordomo-users-owner Thu Aug 30 14:45:03 2001 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-980720-1) id OAA15021; Thu, 30 Aug 2001 14:24:43 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mailsrv.image-src.com (mailsrv.image-src.com [216.2.143.227]) by honor.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0FCCB17EB0 for ; Thu, 30 Aug 2001 14:24:35 -0700 (PDT) Received: from jefe (proxy.image-src.com [216.2.143.231]) by mailsrv.image-src.com (8.11.2/8.11.2) with SMTP id f7ULPgs28095; Thu, 30 Aug 2001 17:25:43 -0400 From: "Jeff Graves" To: , "Majordomo-Users" Subject: RE: How to avoid this Date: Thu, 30 Aug 2001 17:24:36 -0400 Message-ID: <002e01c1319a$2b7b25a0$ce01c8c0@jefe> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6700 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk The client is using Outlook and has their outgoing mail set to send in RTF format (Using word as email editor). Change the outgoing mail format to "Plain Text" or to "HTML" if you need fancy editing. Jeff Graves Customer Support Engineer Image Source, Inc. 10 Mill Street Bellingham, MA 02019 508.966.5200 X31 - Phone 508.966.5170 - Fax jeff@image-src.com - Email -----Original Message----- From: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM [mailto:majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM]On Behalf Of Nan Hawthorne Sent: Thursday, August 30, 2001 12:11 PM To: Majordomo-Users Subject: How to avoid this Here is a nice newbie question for you... What is the winmail.dat stuff and is there anything I can do on the listowner end to keep it from showing up? 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From majordomo-users-owner Fri Aug 31 04:51:15 2001 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-980720-1) id DAA24854; Fri, 31 Aug 2001 03:28:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists.sempervigilans.org (miles.greatcircle.com [198.102.244.45]) by honor.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7F7D817EAE for ; Fri, 31 Aug 2001 03:28:16 -0700 (PDT) Received: from yoda.cs.udw.ac.za (yoda.cs.udw.ac.za [196.21.225.144]) by lists.sempervigilans.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 59B001459B for ; Fri, 31 Aug 2001 03:28:10 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (gw01f@localhost) by yoda.cs.udw.ac.za (8.9.3/8.8.5) with SMTP id MAA01330 for ; Fri, 31 Aug 2001 12:31:49 +0300 Date: Fri, 31 Aug 2001 12:31:49 +0300 (EET DST) From: HAx0r To: majordomo-users@greatcircle.com Subject: Hi! (Newaliases) Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk Gooday! I was just wondering when, the 'newaliases' (sendmail -bi) command is run, does the following errors presented below cause problems in the actually delivery/workings of majordomo. I tried getting it to work with normal user and root, but the same error always appears...... /etc/aliases: 7 aliases, longest 48 bytes, 218 bytes total hash map "Alias1": unsafe map file /usr/local/majordomo-1.94.5/majordomo.aliases.db: Permission denied WARNING: cannot open alias database /usr/local/majordomo-1.94.5/majordomo.aliases Cannot create database for alias file /usr/local/majordomo-1.94.5/majordomo.aliases However when I run it as the majordom (majordomo) user itself, I get a clean completion. /etc/aliases: 7 aliases, longest 48 bytes, 218 bytes total /usr/local/majordomo-1.94.5/majordomo.aliases: 10 aliases, longest 128 bytes, 497 bytes total So basically, does this pose a problem to majordomo's functionality or does Majordom account only need this to work????? Kindly Dane From majordomo-users-owner Fri Aug 31 05:34:00 2001 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-980720-1) id FAA25760; Fri, 31 Aug 2001 05:10:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: from bofh.obit.nl (bofh.obit.nl [213.201.155.145]) by honor.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id BF95217EAE for ; Fri, 31 Aug 2001 05:09:58 -0700 (PDT) Received: from obit.nl (spam.obit.nl [213.201.155.146]) by spam.obit.nl (Ya Wanna Kn0w ?/) with ESMTP id f7VCB8q01609 for ; Fri, 31 Aug 2001 14:11:08 +0200 Message-ID: <3B8F7EDF.21345E43@obit.nl> Date: Fri, 31 Aug 2001 14:11:11 +0200 From: Marco van Berkum Reply-To: m.v.berkum@obit.nl Organization: OBIT b.v. X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.73 [en] (X11; U; Linux 2.4.8 i686) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: majordomo-users@greatcircle.com Subject: Strange majordomo problems Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk Hi, I tried to install majordomo on 4 machines now trying to fix a strange problem. I've tried different versions of majordomo (the latest 2) and tried nearly all alias options. After 2 days of fighting with majordomo I thought I'd send it to this list. The problem: Praticly any option that I change in a list.config gets ignored completely. The only option that gets used correctly is the description for the list. All other options, such as message_footer, subjectprefix, moderation etc.. etc.. get ignored (?!?). Please tell me what I'm missing (probably a clue :) or what i'm doing wrong. Thanks in advance, Marco van Berkum -- GCC dpu s:--- a- C+++ US++++ P++ L+++ E---- W N o-- K w--- O- M-- V-- PS+++ PE-- Y+ PGP--- t--- 5 X R* tv++ b+++ DI-- D---- G++ e- h+ r y* +---------------------+------------------+-------------------+ | Marco van Berkum | MB17300-RIPE | Security Engineer | | http://ws.obit.nl | "Chernobyl used | Network Admin | | m.v.berkum@obit.nl | Windows" | UNIX | +---------------------+------------------+-------------------+ From majordomo-users-owner Fri Aug 31 06:34:04 2001 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-980720-1) id GAA26310; Fri, 31 Aug 2001 06:20:43 -0700 (PDT) Received: from popout-f.gsfc.nasa.gov (popout-f.gsfc.nasa.gov [128.183.254.137]) by honor.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7A4FE17EAE for ; Fri, 31 Aug 2001 06:20:33 -0700 (PDT) Received: from popi-f.gsfc.nasa.gov (pop500 [128.183.254.135]) by popout-f.gsfc.nasa.gov (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA03223 for ; Fri, 31 Aug 2001 09:22:24 -0400 (EDT) Received: from [128.183.234.170] (gse-g4.gsfc.nasa.gov [128.183.234.170]) by popi-f.gsfc.nasa.gov (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA02023 for ; Fri, 31 Aug 2001 09:19:28 -0400 (EDT) Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Sender: rjacobso@pop500.gsfc.nasa.gov Message-Id: Date: Fri, 31 Aug 2001 09:20:26 -0400 To: majordomo-users@GreatCircle.COM From: Robert C Jacobson Subject: send welcome message to existing users Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk I've created a mailing list. I would like to send the welcome message to all the users in the list, just like they'd get if they subscribed themselves. Is there a way to do this? -- -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Robert Jacobson Robert.Jacobson@gsfc.nasa.gov BS, Aeronautical Engineering Univ. of Md., College Park Flight Ops. Team - SOlar Heliospheric Observatory (SOHO) From majordomo-users-owner Fri Aug 31 09:19:01 2001 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-980720-1) id JAA27954; Fri, 31 Aug 2001 09:03:36 -0700 (PDT) Received: from camaro.sonny.org (unknown [205.217.137.8]) by honor.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 256F917EAE for ; Fri, 31 Aug 2001 09:03:30 -0700 (PDT) Received: from netscape.com (daniel.sonny.org [205.217.137.65]) by camaro.sonny.org (8.8.8/8.8.3) with ESMTP id LAA10730; Fri, 31 Aug 2001 11:03:25 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: <3B8FB54D.93AADC0@netscape.com> Date: Fri, 31 Aug 2001 11:03:25 -0500 From: Dan Liston Organization: iPlanet eCommerce Solutions, A Sun|Netscape Alliance X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.75 [en] (X11; U; Linux 2.2.16-3 i686) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Robert C Jacobson Cc: majordomo-users@greatcircle.com Subject: Re: send welcome message to existing users References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk Have you considered writing/addressing a welcome message to the list you just created? Dan Liston Robert C Jacobson wrote: > > I've created a mailing list. I would like to send the welcome > message to all the users in the list, just like they'd get if they > subscribed themselves. Is there a way to do this? From majordomo-users-owner Fri Aug 31 09:34:32 2001 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-980720-1) id JAA27959; Fri, 31 Aug 2001 09:03:53 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nwstamps.com (nwstamps.com [216.122.114.19]) by honor.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 10F3017EAE for ; Fri, 31 Aug 2001 09:03:48 -0700 (PDT) Received: from a (c1310297-a.bremtn1.wa.home.com [24.14.235.25]) by nwstamps.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id IAA01350; Fri, 31 Aug 2001 08:52:47 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <003c01c13236$7fc62780$0200a8c0@a> From: "Chris McEwen" To: , "Robert C Jacobson" References: Subject: Re: send welcome message to existing users Date: Fri, 31 Aug 2001 09:03:33 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4807.1700 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4807.1700 Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk Yes. Simple. Post it to the list. --Chris McEwen chris@NWStamps.com Northwestern Stamps ----- Original Message ----- From: "Robert C Jacobson" I've created a mailing list. I would like to send the welcome message to all the users in the list, just like they'd get if they subscribed themselves. Is there a way to do this? From majordomo-users-owner Fri Aug 31 09:49:13 2001 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-980720-1) id JAA28051; Fri, 31 Aug 2001 09:15:38 -0700 (PDT) Received: from sulphur.cix.co.uk (sulphur.cix.co.uk [212.35.225.149]) by honor.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2344B17EAE for ; Fri, 31 Aug 2001 09:15:29 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mesh--computer (209.235.35.212.in-addr.arpa.ip-pool.cix.co.uk [212.35.235.209]) by sulphur.cix.co.uk (8.11.3/CIX/8.11.3) with SMTP id f7VGFAn17709; Fri, 31 Aug 2001 17:15:11 +0100 (BST) X-Envelope-From: mwinnett@satchmo.win-uk.net Message-ID: <002901c13238$a0cde510$0101a8c0@mesh--computer> From: "Mike Winnett" To: , "Robert C Jacobson" Subject: Re: send welcome message to existing users Date: Fri, 31 Aug 2001 17:18:48 +0100 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.2106.4 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk post it to the list? doh! sorry, that'd be too simple ;-) mw -----Original Message----- From: Robert C Jacobson To: majordomo-users@GreatCircle.COM Date: 31 August 2001 17:01 Subject: send welcome message to existing users > >I've created a mailing list. I would like to send the welcome >message to all the users in the list, just like they'd get if they >subscribed themselves. Is there a way to do this? > >-- >-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= >Robert Jacobson Robert.Jacobson@gsfc.nasa.gov >BS, Aeronautical Engineering Univ. of Md., College Park >Flight Ops. Team - SOlar Heliospheric Observatory (SOHO) > From majordomo-users-owner Fri Aug 31 10:04:42 2001 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-980720-1) id JAA28337; Fri, 31 Aug 2001 09:39:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: from camaro.sonny.org (unknown [205.217.137.8]) by honor.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 310EA17EAE for ; Fri, 31 Aug 2001 09:38:54 -0700 (PDT) Received: from netscape.com (daniel.sonny.org [205.217.137.65]) by camaro.sonny.org (8.8.8/8.8.3) with ESMTP id LAA10868; Fri, 31 Aug 2001 11:38:51 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: <3B8FBD9B.ADDCAB94@netscape.com> Date: Fri, 31 Aug 2001 11:38:51 -0500 From: Dan Liston Organization: iPlanet eCommerce Solutions, A Sun|Netscape Alliance X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.75 [en] (X11; U; Linux 2.2.16-3 i686) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Jeff Graves Cc: Majordomo List Subject: Re: 3+ hour delay References: <003601c13171$7eb2b130$ce01c8c0@jefe> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk Jeff Graves wrote: > > What's up with the 3+ hour delay on messages sent to this list? > Impressive, isn't it? Mailing lists are not AOL instant messenger. Dan Liston From majordomo-users-owner Fri Aug 31 10:19:08 2001 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-980720-1) id JAA27994; Fri, 31 Aug 2001 09:06:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: from popout-f.gsfc.nasa.gov (popout-f.gsfc.nasa.gov [128.183.254.137]) by honor.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 02C8917EAE for ; Fri, 31 Aug 2001 09:06:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: from popi-f.gsfc.nasa.gov (pop500 [128.183.254.135]) by popout-f.gsfc.nasa.gov (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA17392 for ; Fri, 31 Aug 2001 12:08:05 -0400 (EDT) Received: from [128.183.234.170] (gse-g4.gsfc.nasa.gov [128.183.234.170]) by popi-f.gsfc.nasa.gov (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA12709 for ; Fri, 31 Aug 2001 12:05:09 -0400 (EDT) Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Sender: rjacobso@pop500.gsfc.nasa.gov Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <003c01c13236$7fc62780$0200a8c0@a> References: <003c01c13236$7fc62780$0200a8c0@a> Date: Fri, 31 Aug 2001 12:06:08 -0400 To: From: Robert C Jacobson Subject: Re: send welcome message to existing users Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk Ah, yes. But I wanted it to come from majordomo, not me. I guess I'll just su to majordom At 9:03 AM -0700 8/31/01, Chris McEwen wrote: >Yes. Simple. > >Post it to the list. > >--Chris McEwen > chris@NWStamps.com > Northwestern Stamps > >----- Original Message ----- >From: "Robert C Jacobson" > >I've created a mailing list. I would like to send the welcome >message to all the users in the list, just like they'd get if they >subscribed themselves. Is there a way to do this? -- -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Robert Jacobson Robert.Jacobson@gsfc.nasa.gov BS, Aeronautical Engineering Univ. of Md., College Park Flight Ops. Team - SOlar Heliospheric Observatory (SOHO) From majordomo-users-owner Fri Aug 31 10:34:17 2001 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-980720-1) id KAA28834; Fri, 31 Aug 2001 10:11:10 -0700 (PDT) Received: from camaro.sonny.org (unknown [205.217.137.8]) by honor.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 52C0717EAE for ; Fri, 31 Aug 2001 10:11:04 -0700 (PDT) Received: from netscape.com (daniel.sonny.org [205.217.137.65]) by camaro.sonny.org (8.8.8/8.8.3) with ESMTP id MAA11003; Fri, 31 Aug 2001 12:10:59 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: <3B8FC523.F423FED3@netscape.com> Date: Fri, 31 Aug 2001 12:10:59 -0500 From: Dan Liston Organization: iPlanet eCommerce Solutions, A Sun|Netscape Alliance X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.75 [en] (X11; U; Linux 2.2.16-3 i686) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: hawthorne@cybervpm.com Cc: Majordomo-Users Subject: Re: How to avoid this References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk This is a perfect example of where "demime" would come in handy. http://scifi.squawk.com/demime.html Dan Liston Nan Hawthorne wrote: > > Here is a nice newbie question for you... > > What is the winmail.dat stuff and is there anything I can do on the > listowner end to keep it from showing up? > > Nan > From majordomo-users-owner Fri Aug 31 10:55:10 2001 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-980720-1) id KAA28747; Fri, 31 Aug 2001 10:06:48 -0700 (PDT) Received: from camaro.sonny.org (unknown [205.217.137.8]) by honor.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id EDE4617EAE for ; Fri, 31 Aug 2001 10:06:41 -0700 (PDT) Received: from netscape.com (daniel.sonny.org [205.217.137.65]) by camaro.sonny.org (8.8.8/8.8.3) with ESMTP id MAA10979; Fri, 31 Aug 2001 12:06:38 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: <3B8FC41D.C7798571@netscape.com> Date: Fri, 31 Aug 2001 12:06:37 -0500 From: Dan Liston Organization: iPlanet eCommerce Solutions, A Sun|Netscape Alliance X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.75 [en] (X11; U; Linux 2.2.16-3 i686) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "Joe R. Jah" Cc: Majordomo-Users Subject: Re: Master password file was: (Quickie) References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk "Joe R. Jah" wrote: > > On Wed, 29 Aug 2001, Daniel Liston wrote: > > > You are amazing Joe! I am considering using your patch to modify the > > functionality of the passwd, but retaining the old functionality with > > a new command called newpasswd. :) I hope this doesn't make you feel > > like Charlie Brown trying to kick a field goal while Lucy is holding > > the football. I really appreciate that you can come out with such an > > excellent patch in one day like you did. > > I am not sure if I understand what you mean with the "old functionality." > The patched Majordomo will still obey the password command and change the > password; it only saves the password where it should have done originally, > in the .config file. > By old functionality, I am referring to the listname.passwd file getting written to. Being someone that still uses the deprecated listname.passwd file, and not for the "master password", I can have the best of both worlds by adding a "newpasswd" command that does what the old "passwd" command did pre-passwd.0 patch. Dan Liston From majordomo-users-owner Fri Aug 31 11:04:08 2001 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-980720-1) id JAA28091; Fri, 31 Aug 2001 09:19:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: from camaro.sonny.org (unknown [205.217.137.8]) by honor.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1866D17EAE for ; Fri, 31 Aug 2001 09:18:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: from netscape.com (daniel.sonny.org [205.217.137.65]) by camaro.sonny.org (8.8.8/8.8.3) with ESMTP id LAA10789; Fri, 31 Aug 2001 11:18:54 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: <3B8FB8ED.5A4E1244@netscape.com> Date: Fri, 31 Aug 2001 11:18:53 -0500 From: Dan Liston Organization: iPlanet eCommerce Solutions, A Sun|Netscape Alliance X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.75 [en] (X11; U; Linux 2.2.16-3 i686) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: m.v.berkum@obit.nl Cc: majordomo-users@greatcircle.com Subject: Re: Strange majordomo problems References: <3B8F7EDF.21345E43@obit.nl> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk It is really hard to say what you are doing wrong when you don't tell us what you are doing in the first place. What "alias options" have you tried? Keep in mind, in your .config file, each setting lists a reference as to what majordomo script uses that setting. In the case of fronter/footer, prefix, and moderation, they are all used by "resend". If your alias file does not point list traffic to the resend script, none of these settings will ever be seen (or used) by majordomo. It would be my GUESS that what you are doing wrong, is an alias for your list that looks like... listname: :include:/pathto/lists/listname rather than... listname: "|/pathto/majordomo/wrapper resend -l listname listname-outgoing,nobody" listname-outgoing: :include:/pathto/lists/listname Dan Liston Marco van Berkum wrote: > > Hi, > > I tried to install majordomo on 4 machines now > trying to fix a strange problem. I've tried different > versions of majordomo (the latest 2) and tried > nearly all alias options. After 2 days of fighting > with majordomo I thought I'd send it to this list. > > The problem: > > Praticly any option that I change in a list.config > gets ignored completely. The only option that > gets used correctly is the description for the list. > All other options, such as message_footer, > subjectprefix, moderation etc.. etc.. get ignored (?!?). > > Please tell me what I'm missing (probably a clue :) > or what i'm doing wrong. From majordomo-users-owner Fri Aug 31 11:19:14 2001 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-980720-1) id JAA28562; Fri, 31 Aug 2001 09:55:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: from clmex100.honeywell-tsi.com (clmex100.honeywell-tsi.com [198.186.47.70]) by honor.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8C8B917EAE for ; Fri, 31 Aug 2001 09:55:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: by clmex100.honeywell-tsi.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) id ; Fri, 31 Aug 2001 12:40:47 -0400 Message-ID: From: "Mathis, Eric" To: hawthorne@cybervpm.com, Majordomo-Users Subject: RE: Annoying problem Date: Fri, 31 Aug 2001 12:54:11 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk Thanks for the suggestion. Although this might be the logical approach, the user does not regard it as viable. An update: I did break the 400 kb barrier with a 1.7 mb file. Majordomo, however, then rejected a 3.5 mb file. This sounds to me as if I'm running up against space limitations. Any thoughts? ... Eric Mathis eric.mathis@gsfc.nasa.gov > -----Original Message----- > From: Nan Hawthorne [SMTP:hawthorne@cybervpm.com] > Sent: Monday, August 27, 2001 12:53 PM > To: Majordomo-Users > Subject: RE: Annoying problem > > You might split it into smaller chunks. > > Nan in Seattle > > | > < > > X > /X\ > /X\ > /X\ > / X \ > / X \ > / X \ > / X \ > __/_____\__ > > -----Original Message----- > From: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM > [mailto:majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM]On Behalf Of Mathis, Eric > Sent: Monday, August 27, 2001 6:16 AM > To: majordomo-users@GreatCircle.COM > Subject: Annoying problem > > > Majordomo is bouncing a message because of size. The message size is about > 2.5mb. I have reviewed the Majordomo documentation and accordingly checked > the various configuration files. The maxlength has been set to 5mb in the > .config file for the list, to 10mb in the config_parse.pl file, and to 10mb > in the sendmail.cf file. The system has been re-booted since these changes. > > Despite these changes, Majordomo continues to think that the maxlength is > 400Kb. > > Any ideas as to what is causing the problem and how to correct it? > > My environment: > AIX 4.2 > Majordomo 1.94.4 > Sendmail 8.9 > Perl 5.5002 > > > Thanks! > > ... Eric Mathis > eric.mathis@gsfc.nasa.gov > > > > From majordomo-users-owner Fri Aug 31 11:34:02 2001 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-980720-1) id JAA28218; Fri, 31 Aug 2001 09:26:49 -0700 (PDT) Received: from camaro.sonny.org (unknown [205.217.137.8]) by honor.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id F22FA17EAE for ; Fri, 31 Aug 2001 09:26:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: from netscape.com (daniel.sonny.org [205.217.137.65]) by camaro.sonny.org (8.8.8/8.8.3) with ESMTP id LAA10829; Fri, 31 Aug 2001 11:26:27 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: <3B8FBAB2.6126CE00@netscape.com> Date: Fri, 31 Aug 2001 11:26:26 -0500 From: Dan Liston Organization: iPlanet eCommerce Solutions, A Sun|Netscape Alliance X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.75 [en] (X11; U; Linux 2.2.16-3 i686) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: HAx0r Cc: majordomo-users@greatcircle.com Subject: Re: Hi! (Newaliases) References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk Do yourself a favor and create a link to your majordomo.aliases file in the same directory as your regular aliases file. `ln -s /usr/local/majordomo-1.94.5/majordomo.aliases /etc` Now in your sendmail.cf file, set O AliasFile=/etc/aliases,/etc/majordomo.aliases Restart sendmail, and rebuild your aliases database. Everything should now work without complaints. Dan Liston PS. I should explain that the most likely reason newaliases works as the majordomo user, but not root is the ownership of the majordomo.aliases file. 10-1 says it is owned by majordomo when it should be owned by root. The same would be true even if the file was in the etc directory. Aliases should be owned by root. HAx0r wrote: > > Gooday! > > I was just wondering when, the 'newaliases' (sendmail -bi) command is run, > does the following errors presented below cause problems in the actually > delivery/workings of majordomo. I tried getting it to work with normal > user and root, but the same error always appears...... > > /etc/aliases: 7 aliases, longest 48 bytes, 218 bytes total > hash map "Alias1": unsafe map file > /usr/local/majordomo-1.94.5/majordomo.aliases.db: Permission denied > WARNING: cannot open alias database > /usr/local/majordomo-1.94.5/majordomo.aliases > Cannot create database for alias file > /usr/local/majordomo-1.94.5/majordomo.aliases > > However when I run it as the majordom (majordomo) user itself, I get a > clean completion. > > /etc/aliases: 7 aliases, longest 48 bytes, 218 bytes total > /usr/local/majordomo-1.94.5/majordomo.aliases: 10 aliases, longest 128 > bytes, 497 bytes total > > So basically, does this pose a problem to majordomo's functionality or > does Majordom account only need this to work????? > > Kindly > Dane From majordomo-users-owner Fri Aug 31 15:34:04 2001 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-980720-1) id PAA05175; Fri, 31 Aug 2001 15:15:16 -0700 (PDT) Received: from raq.willspc.net (unknown [216.29.244.108]) by honor.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 890A817EAE for ; Fri, 31 Aug 2001 15:15:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: from willdelllap (us-45402-ras1-modem2.daytondigital.net [216.29.244.203]) by raq.willspc.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id SAA31074 for ; Fri, 31 Aug 2001 18:14:53 -0400 From: "Will Nordmeyer" To: Subject: Majorcool/Majordomo Date: Fri, 31 Aug 2001 18:14:55 -0400 Message-ID: <000d01c1326a$5e171de0$0a00a8c0@WillHomeNet.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.2627 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 Importance: Normal Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk I'm running Majordomo/Majorcool on a cobalt RAQ3, with Apache. The Majordomo script file that Majorcool provided (currently within a testsite's bin directory) doesn't run unless I rename it to Majordomo.pl THEN... when it DOES run, it gets partway in and crashes giving this error in the Apache error log: [Thu Aug 30 09:48:18 2001] [error] [client 38.194.171.167] Premature end of script headers: /home/sites/site3/web/bin/Majordomo.pl From majordomo-users-owner Fri Aug 31 16:19:05 2001 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-980720-1) id QAA05628; Fri, 31 Aug 2001 16:04:49 -0700 (PDT) Received: from camaro.sonny.org (unknown [205.217.137.8]) by honor.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 09AC117EAE for ; Fri, 31 Aug 2001 16:04:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: from netscape.com (daniel.sonny.org [205.217.137.65]) by camaro.sonny.org (8.8.8/8.8.3) with ESMTP id SAA12356; Fri, 31 Aug 2001 18:04:35 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: <3B901803.13C259D3@netscape.com> Date: Fri, 31 Aug 2001 18:04:35 -0500 From: Dan Liston Organization: iPlanet eCommerce Solutions, A Sun|Netscape Alliance X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.75 [en] (X11; U; Linux 2.2.16-3 i686) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Will Nordmeyer , majordomo-users@greatcircle.com Subject: Re: Hi! (Newaliases) References: <000c01c13269$02896c40$0a00a8c0@WillHomeNet.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk Did you do the step that said... > Now in your sendmail.cf file, set > O AliasFile=/etc/aliases,/etc/majordomo.aliases > > Restart sendmail, and rebuild your aliases database. Everything > should now work without complaints. I am not familiar with cobalt RAQ servers, but with standard linux on an Intel platform, the virtusertable is modified by hand, not automatically. This file is not added to aliases or aliases added to it. Sendmail parses them separately and individually. To test, you can do a sendmail -bv user@domain.tld and see interactively how sendmail expects to deliver to that address. Dan Liston Will Nordmeyer wrote: > > Dan, > > Saw your response here. > > Do you know anything about linux on a cobalt RAQ3? > > When I do newaliases, or sendmail -bi, it doesn't seem to add entries > from the alias files into the main virtusertable file. > > I'm not sure why... > > --Will > > -----Original Message----- > From: majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM > [mailto:majordomo-users-owner@GreatCircle.COM] On Behalf Of Dan Liston > Sent: Friday, August 31, 2001 12:26 PM > To: HAx0r > Cc: majordomo-users@GreatCircle.COM > Subject: Re: Hi! (Newaliases) > > Do yourself a favor and create a link to your majordomo.aliases file > in the same directory as your regular aliases file. > > `ln -s /usr/local/majordomo-1.94.5/majordomo.aliases /etc` > > Now in your sendmail.cf file, set > O AliasFile=/etc/aliases,/etc/majordomo.aliases > > Restart sendmail, and rebuild your aliases database. Everything > should now work without complaints. > > Dan Liston > > PS. I should explain that the most likely reason newaliases works > as the majordomo user, but not root is the ownership of the > majordomo.aliases file. 10-1 says it is owned by majordomo when > it should be owned by root. The same would be true even if the > file was in the etc directory. Aliases should be owned by root. > > HAx0r wrote: > > > > Gooday! > > > > I was just wondering when, the 'newaliases' (sendmail -bi) command is > run, > > does the following errors presented below cause problems in the > actually > > delivery/workings of majordomo. I tried getting it to work with normal > > user and root, but the same error always appears...... > > > > /etc/aliases: 7 aliases, longest 48 bytes, 218 bytes total > > hash map "Alias1": unsafe map file > > /usr/local/majordomo-1.94.5/majordomo.aliases.db: Permission denied > > WARNING: cannot open alias database > > /usr/local/majordomo-1.94.5/majordomo.aliases > > Cannot create database for alias file > > /usr/local/majordomo-1.94.5/majordomo.aliases > > > > However when I run it as the majordom (majordomo) user itself, I get a > > clean completion. > > > > /etc/aliases: 7 aliases, longest 48 bytes, 218 bytes total > > /usr/local/majordomo-1.94.5/majordomo.aliases: 10 aliases, longest 128 > > bytes, 497 bytes total > > > > So basically, does this pose a problem to majordomo's functionality or > > does Majordom account only need this to work????? > > > > Kindly > > Dane