From majordomo-users-owner@greatcircle.com Fri Feb 1 00:13:34 2002 Received: from jensalt.com (175-37.boicpe.cableone.net [24.116.175.37]) by mycroft.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 08EB31959E1 for ; Fri, 1 Feb 2002 00:13:28 -0800 (PST) Received: from jensalt.com (main [192.168.1.5]) by jensalt.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g118Ff103784 for ; Fri, 1 Feb 2002 01:15:41 -0700 Message-ID: <3C5A4E2E.1050500@jensalt.com> Date: Fri, 01 Feb 2002 01:13:34 -0700 From: Kim Gross Organization: Jensalt.com User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:0.9.7) Gecko/20011221 X-Accept-Language: en-us MIME-Version: 1.0 To: majordomo-users@greatcircle.com Subject: smrsh problems Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Archive-Number: 200202/1 X-Sequence-Number: 211 I'm not sure what I am doing wrong, but I am unable to get majordomo to work on my new linux install. When I try to send a message to a list, I get the following returned email ----- The following addresses had permanent fatal errors ----- "|/usr/test/majordomo/wrapper resend -r tvmas-l -l tvmas-l tvmas-l-outgoing" (reason: service unavailable) (expanded from: ) ----- Transcript of session follows ----- Message delivered to mailing list smrsh: wrapper not available for sendmail programs 554 5.0.0 Service unavailable I have added a sym link to the wrapper to the /etc/smrsh directory, and restarted sendmail, but it still is failing. Could it be a permissions problem with wrapper? Thanks Kim From majordomo-users-owner@greatcircle.com Fri Feb 1 00:42:37 2002 Received: from etzion.org.il (linux.hertzog.macam98.ac.il [192.114.207.34]) by mycroft.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 316DE1959E2 for ; Fri, 1 Feb 2002 00:42:04 -0800 (PST) Received: from etzion.org.il (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by localhost (8.12.0.Beta16/8.12.0.Beta16/Debian 8.12.0.Beta16) with ESMTP id g118fr0Y006194 for ; Fri, 1 Feb 2002 10:41:53 +0200 Received: (from ebick@localhost) by etzion.org.il (8.12.0.Beta16/8.12.0.Beta16/Debian 8.12.0.Beta16) id g118fro7006192; Fri, 1 Feb 2002 10:41:53 +0200 Date: Fri, 1 Feb 2002 10:41:53 +0200 (IST) From: Ezra Bick To: majordomo-users@greatcircle.com Subject: bounced mail from msn Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Archive-Number: 200202/2 X-Sequence-Number: 212 I asked this last week, but did not get an answer clear enough for me to understand. If MSN is apparently not delivering mail from a list, what should or can be done. One suggestion is that MSN objects to having too many messages delivered at one time. Where does one set the number of messages that Sendmail sends with each open connection? Can this be set for a particular recipient domain? If we are on the topic, does anyone have an idea of how to set thiese settings to maximize mailings without getting into trouble with MSN (and AOL, etc.) From majordomo-users-owner@greatcircle.com Fri Feb 1 04:36:03 2002 Received: from nwstamps.com (nwstamps.com [216.122.114.19]) by mycroft.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 53C67195AAF for ; Fri, 1 Feb 2002 04:36:02 -0800 (PST) Received: by nwstamps.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id EAA18267; Fri, 1 Feb 2002 04:21:48 -0800 (PST) Date: Fri, 1 Feb 2002 04:21:48 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <200202011221.EAA18267@nwstamps.com> From: Chris McEwen To: Ezra Bick Reply-To: Chris McEwen Cc: majordomo-users@greatcircle.com References: In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit User-Agent: IMP/PHP3 Imap webMail Program 2.0.11 X-Originating-IP: 198.187.135.242 Subject: Re: bounced mail from msn X-Archive-Number: 200202/3 X-Sequence-Number: 213 I know this probably comes across as simple minded, but this is my take on the MSN issue: (1) All the rest of the internet community allows their customers to decide if they want to participate in mail lists. MSN evidently decides this for their customers. Therefore, the MSN customer has decided but default not to be on mail lists. If this is not the case, let the MSN customer take it up with their ISP. (2) All the rest of the internet community tells the reason for a bounce. MSN just tells you the mail is refused. If there is a reason for the bounce, tell us. If it is bounced because MSN feels like bouncing it, see item (1). We have many happy list members. Then we have MSN members. I refer their complaints to MSN tech support. --Chris McEwen Quoting Ezra Bick : > I asked this last week, but did not get an answer > clear enough for me to understand. > > If MSN is apparently not delivering mail from a list, > what should or can be done. > > One suggestion is that MSN objects to having too many > messages delivered at one time. Where does one set > the number of messages that Sendmail sends with each > open connection? Can this be set for a particular > recipient domain? > > If we are on the topic, does anyone have an idea of > how to set thiese settings to maximize mailings > without getting into trouble with MSN (and AOL, etc.) From majordomo-users-owner@greatcircle.com Fri Feb 1 06:28:57 2002 Received: from web3-1.ability.net (unknown [216.32.69.8]) by mycroft.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4DC29195AAF for ; Fri, 1 Feb 2002 06:28:50 -0800 (PST) Received: from [63.119.245.74] (74.cdt.org [63.119.245.74]) by web3-1.ability.net (8.9.3/8.9.1/Pub) with ESMTP id JAA04976 for ; Fri, 1 Feb 2002 09:28:48 -0500 (EST) Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Sender: mclark@mail.cdtmail.org Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <3C5A4E2E.1050500@jensalt.com> References: <3C5A4E2E.1050500@jensalt.com> Date: Fri, 1 Feb 2002 09:28:47 -0500 To: majordomo-users@greatcircle.com From: Michael Clark Subject: Re: smrsh problems Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" X-Archive-Number: 200202/4 X-Sequence-Number: 214 I am having the exact same problem. Red Hat Linux 7.1; Sendmail 8.11.6/8.11.6; Majordomo 1.94.5. Link from /etc/smrsh to the wrapper is set up. The ./wrapper config-test works fine. Thanks greatly for any hints anyone can offer. Michael >I'm not sure what I am doing wrong, but I am unable to get majordomo >to work on my new linux install. When I try to send a message to a >list, I get the following returned email > > ----- The following addresses had permanent fatal errors ----- >"|/usr/test/majordomo/wrapper resend -r tvmas-l -l tvmas-l tvmas-l-outgoing" > (reason: service unavailable) > (expanded from: ) > > ----- Transcript of session follows ----- >Message delivered to mailing list >smrsh: wrapper not available for sendmail programs >554 5.0.0 Service unavailable > > >I have added a sym link to the wrapper to the /etc/smrsh directory, >and restarted sendmail, but it still is failing. Could it be a >permissions problem with wrapper? > >Thanks > >Kim -- Michael Clark, Webmaster Center for Democracy and Technology 1634 Eye Street NW, Suite 1100 Washington, DC 20006 voice: 202-637-9800 http://www.cdt.org/ Join our Activist Network! Your participation can make a difference! http://www.cdt.org/join/ From majordomo-users-owner@greatcircle.com Fri Feb 1 07:54:36 2002 Received: from esson.net (esson.net [216.102.129.43]) by mycroft.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A7A76195AA1 for ; Fri, 1 Feb 2002 07:54:33 -0800 (PST) Received: from ekasky.wrenkasky.com (ekasky.usc.edu [128.125.63.168]) by esson.net (8.12.1/8.12.1) with ESMTP id g11FsTx0010422; Fri, 1 Feb 2002 07:54:30 -0800 Message-Id: <4.3.2.7.2.20020201074621.00b420d0@mail.esson.net> X-Sender: ed@mail.esson.net (Unverified) X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 4.3.2 Date: Fri, 01 Feb 2002 07:55:01 -0800 To: Kim Gross , mclark@www.cdtmail.org From: Ed Kasky Subject: Re: smrsh problems Cc: majordomo-users@greatcircle.com In-Reply-To: <3C5A4E2E.1050500@jensalt.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed X-Archive-Number: 200202/5 X-Sequence-Number: 215 Did you make majordom a trusted user in sendmail.cf? This is what my .cf looks like: ##################### # Trusted users # ##################### # this is equivalent to setting class "t" #Ft/etc/mail/trusted-users Troot Tdaemon Tuucp Tmajordom As always, you should make any changes to the cf using the m4 macro. Use the following line in the mc: define(`confTRUSTED_USERS', `majordom')dnl Ed At 01:13 AM 2/1/2002, you wrote: >I'm not sure what I am doing wrong, but I am unable to get majordomo to >work on my new linux install. When I try to send a message to a list, I >get the following returned email > > ----- The following addresses had permanent fatal errors ----- >"|/usr/test/majordomo/wrapper resend -r tvmas-l -l tvmas-l tvmas-l-outgoing" > (reason: service unavailable) > (expanded from: ) > > ----- Transcript of session follows ----- >Message delivered to mailing list >smrsh: wrapper not available for sendmail programs >554 5.0.0 Service unavailable > > >I have added a sym link to the wrapper to the /etc/smrsh directory, and >restarted sendmail, but it still is failing. Could it be a permissions >problem with wrapper? > >Thanks > >Kim From majordomo-users-owner@greatcircle.com Fri Feb 1 14:34:16 2002 Received: from miles.dynamicdiagrams.com (unknown [68.14.136.108]) by mycroft.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 60AC1195ABF for ; Fri, 1 Feb 2002 14:34:15 -0800 (PST) Received: (from jh@localhost) by miles.dynamicdiagrams.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) id g11MUOS04046; Fri, 1 Feb 2002 17:30:24 -0500 Message-Id: <200202012230.g11MUOS04046@miles.dynamicdiagrams.com> Date: Fri, 1 Feb 2002 22:30:24 +0000 (GMT) To: timothy@xrx-inc.com Cc: roman@blakout.net, majordomo-users@greatcircle.com From: Joe Hartley Subject: Re: can't get lock for *.config In-Reply-To: <200201311720.g0VHKCb84100@xrx-inc.com> X-Mailer: Ishmail 1.3.3-990123-linux MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Archive-Number: 200202/6 X-Sequence-Number: 216 "Dr. Tim" wrote: > what did you write joe? > makes no sense. > > I could use the help also. > Tim > I'd pointed out that in the example given that Roman still had the /path/to/digest.conf example file listed. If he hadn't changed /path/to to point to where the file actually lived , he would have gotten just the error message he did. -- ====================================================================== Joe Hartley - Senior Unix Admin - Dynamic Diagrams/ingenta 12 Bassett St., Providence, RI 02903 - vox 401.331-2014 x120 Joe.Hartley@ingenta.com - cell 401.338.9214 Without deviation from the norm, "progress" is not possible. - FZappa From majordomo-users-owner@greatcircle.com Fri Feb 1 16:03:21 2002 Received: from smoe.org (jane.smoe.org [66.89.201.78]) by mycroft.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D0A01195AC1 for ; Fri, 1 Feb 2002 16:03:19 -0800 (PST) Received: from smoe.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by smoe.org (8.12.0.Beta16/8.12.0.Beta16) with ESMTP id g1203EZr021828; Fri, 1 Feb 2002 19:03:14 -0500 (EST) Received: (from jeffw@localhost) by smoe.org (8.12.0.Beta16/8.12.0.Beta16/submit) id g1203DgB021827; Fri, 1 Feb 2002 19:03:13 -0500 (EST) Date: Fri, 1 Feb 2002 19:03:13 -0500 From: Jeff Wasilko To: "Dr. Tim" Cc: majordomo-users@greatcircle.com Subject: Re: Sendmail 8.12 and preventing unauthorized distribution via list-outgoing Message-ID: <20020201190313.A15584@jane.smoe.org> Mail-Followup-To: "Dr. Tim" , majordomo-users@greatcircle.com References: <20020130215029.A10202@jane.smoe.org> <200201311710.g0VHAq283867@xrx-inc.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <200201311710.g0VHAq283867@xrx-inc.com>; from "Dr. Tim" on Thu, Jan 31, 2002 at 11:10:52AM -0600 X-Archive-Number: 200202/7 X-Sequence-Number: 217 On Thu, Jan 31, 2002 at 11:10:52AM -0600, Dr. Tim wrote: > Can you explain in more detail what you are doing? howdoes > this stop that particular virus or what are you stopping? The problem I was having was with the www.myparty.yahoo.com virus (more info at http://www.cert.org/incident_notes/IN-2002-01.html). This particular virus scans people's mailboxes for addresses to send, rather than just looking thru a victim's address book. So, this was finding the LISTNAME-outgoing address that shows up in the Recieved: lines. Since majordomo doesn't 'listen' on that address, any mail sent to LISTNAME-outgoing will just be forwarded to the list members, bypassing any taboo checks (or anything else Majordomo would do). The sendmail rulesets I forwarded tell sendmail to claim that *-outgoing doesn't exist when accepting mail from the outside world. So, next time a virus (or spammer) harvests a LISTNAME-outgoing address, any mail sent to it will bounce. > Right now I have a moderator that is having a cow because for the first > time in 5 years. Attachments are coming through to be approved > our users had never sent attachments before. > > I have to use demime I believe to strip attachments but what else should > I do to protect my moderator? I think that's about it. Demime has made our lists a whole lot nicer. -j From majordomo-users-owner@greatcircle.com Fri Feb 1 22:49:41 2002 Received: from gametools.com (gsi.gametools.com [63.226.224.113]) by mycroft.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7C4E8195AC1 for ; Fri, 1 Feb 2002 22:49:39 -0800 (PST) Received: (from steve@localhost) by gametools.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id XAA29259 for majordomo-users@greatcircle.com; Fri, 1 Feb 2002 23:29:29 -0500 From: Steve Mansfield Message-Id: <200202020429.XAA29259@gametools.com> Subject: Bogus admin bounces To: majordomo-users@greatcircle.com (majordomo-users) Date: Fri, 1 Feb 2002 23:29:28 -0500 (EST) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.5 PL3] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Archive-Number: 200202/8 X-Sequence-Number: 218 I ran across a problem today which I was able to find a workaround for, but was hoping someone might have found a proper fix for. I am running MD 1.94.5 The problem (as many others have seen) was that one of the lists I maintain suddenly started sending a bounce back to a poster for no apparent reason. After much testing, I was able to determine that if *any* word starting with "uns" and containing the letter 'b' in the same word, regardless of the actual spelling of the word, appeared near the start of the message, it apparently mistook it for someone trying to "sunsubscribe". I tested it with a number of patterns: "unspeakable", "unstoppable", "unshobanicle". All caused a bounce. "unstopped" went through. Obviously something is parsing commands incorrectly here, but I'm not sure whether it's in the majordomo Perl code, or if it's within Perl itself. Any clues from anyone? -- Steve Mansfield From majordomo-users-owner@greatcircle.com Fri Feb 1 22:51:01 2002 Received: from jensalt.com (175-37.boicpe.cableone.net [24.116.175.37]) by mycroft.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 76DA5195AC1 for ; Fri, 1 Feb 2002 22:51:00 -0800 (PST) Received: from jensalt.com (main [192.168.1.5]) by jensalt.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g126rQE01424 for ; Fri, 1 Feb 2002 23:53:26 -0700 Message-ID: <3C5B8C5E.8050902@jensalt.com> Date: Fri, 01 Feb 2002 23:51:10 -0700 From: Kim Gross Organization: Jensalt.com User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:0.9.7) Gecko/20011221 X-Accept-Language: en-us MIME-Version: 1.0 To: majordomo-users Subject: Re: smrsh problems References: <4.3.2.7.2.20020201074621.00b420d0@mail.esson.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Archive-Number: 200202/9 X-Sequence-Number: 219 ED, I did not make majordom a trusted user, but I have now, but I still get the same error message. Any other ideas? Could it be ownership or chmod settings? Or anything else? Kim Ed Kasky wrote: > Did you make majordom a trusted user in sendmail.cf? > > This is what my .cf looks like: > > ##################### > # Trusted users # > ##################### > > # this is equivalent to setting class "t" > #Ft/etc/mail/trusted-users > Troot > Tdaemon > Tuucp > Tmajordom > > As always, you should make any changes to the cf using the m4 macro. > Use the following line in the mc: > > define(`confTRUSTED_USERS', `majordom')dnl > > Ed > > At 01:13 AM 2/1/2002, you wrote: > >> I'm not sure what I am doing wrong, but I am unable to get majordomo >> to work on my new linux install. When I try to send a message to a >> list, I get the following returned email >> >> ----- The following addresses had permanent fatal errors ----- >> "|/usr/test/majordomo/wrapper resend -r tvmas-l -l tvmas-l >> tvmas-l-outgoing" >> (reason: service unavailable) >> (expanded from: ) >> >> ----- Transcript of session follows ----- >> Message delivered to mailing list >> smrsh: wrapper not available for sendmail programs >> 554 5.0.0 Service unavailable >> >> >> I have added a sym link to the wrapper to the /etc/smrsh directory, >> and restarted sendmail, but it still is failing. Could it be a >> permissions problem with wrapper? >> >> Thanks >> >> Kim > > > From majordomo-users-owner@greatcircle.com Fri Feb 1 23:25:44 2002 Received: from esson.net (esson.net [216.102.129.43]) by mycroft.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C14261959F7 for ; Fri, 1 Feb 2002 23:25:42 -0800 (PST) Received: from Eds.wrenkasky.com (eds.wrenkasky.com [10.10.10.11]) by esson.net (8.12.1/8.12.1) with ESMTP id g127Pix0013480; Fri, 1 Feb 2002 23:25:44 -0800 Message-Id: <4.3.2.7.2.20020201231917.00b28d20@mail.esson.net> X-Sender: ed@mail.esson.net (Unverified) X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 4.3.2 Date: Fri, 01 Feb 2002 23:25:39 -0800 To: Kim Gross From: Ed Kasky Subject: Re: smrsh problems Cc: majordomo-users@GreatCircle.COM In-Reply-To: <3C5B8C5E.8050902@jensalt.com> References: <4.3.2.7.2.20020201074621.00b420d0@mail.esson.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed X-Archive-Number: 200202/10 X-Sequence-Number: 220 1. Did you restart sendmail? 2. Read the faq - Specifically - http://www.greatcircle.com/majordomo/majordomo-faq.html#2.11 - "You have to configure smrsh to allow it to execute the wrapper. Normally this is done by creating a symlink in /var/adm/sm.bin (in some it's /etc/smrsh) to Majordomo's wrapper program." 3. Check your permissions on the wrapper -rwsr-xr-x 1 root root 14850 Apr 21 2000 wrapper Let us know what happens.... Ed At 11:51 PM Friday, 2/1/2002, you wrote -=> >ED, I did not make majordom a trusted user, but I have now, but I still >get the same error message. > >Any other ideas? Could it be ownership or chmod settings? Or anything else? > >Kim > > > > >Ed Kasky wrote: > >>Did you make majordom a trusted user in sendmail.cf? >>This is what my .cf looks like: >>##################### >># Trusted users # >>##################### >># this is equivalent to setting class "t" >>#Ft/etc/mail/trusted-users >>Troot >>Tdaemon >>Tuucp >>Tmajordom >>As always, you should make any changes to the cf using the m4 macro. >>Use the following line in the mc: >>define(`confTRUSTED_USERS', `majordom')dnl >>Ed >>At 01:13 AM 2/1/2002, you wrote: >> >>>I'm not sure what I am doing wrong, but I am unable to get majordomo to >>>work on my new linux install. When I try to send a message to a list, I >>>get the following returned email >>> >>> ----- The following addresses had permanent fatal errors ----- >>>"|/usr/test/majordomo/wrapper resend -r tvmas-l -l tvmas-l tvmas-l-outgoing" >>> (reason: service unavailable) >>> (expanded from: ) >>> >>> ----- Transcript of session follows ----- >>>Message delivered to mailing list >>>smrsh: wrapper not available for sendmail programs >>>554 5.0.0 Service unavailable >>> >>> >>>I have added a sym link to the wrapper to the /etc/smrsh directory, and >>>restarted sendmail, but it still is failing. Could it be a permissions >>>problem with wrapper? >>> >>>Thanks >>> >>>Kim >> > > From majordomo-users-owner@greatcircle.com Fri Feb 1 23:39:55 2002 Received: from jensalt.com (175-37.boicpe.cableone.net [24.116.175.37]) by mycroft.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5BD52195AB4 for ; Fri, 1 Feb 2002 23:39:53 -0800 (PST) Received: from jensalt.com (main [192.168.1.5]) by jensalt.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g127g2E01723; Sat, 2 Feb 2002 00:42:03 -0700 Message-ID: <3C5B97C3.10307@jensalt.com> Date: Sat, 02 Feb 2002 00:39:47 -0700 From: Kim Gross Organization: Jensalt.com User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:0.9.8+) Gecko/20020201 X-Accept-Language: en-us MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Ed Kasky Cc: majordomo-users Subject: Re: smrsh problems References: <4.3.2.7.2.20020201074621.00b420d0@mail.esson.net> <4.3.2.7.2.20020201231917.00b28d20@mail.esson.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Archive-Number: 200202/11 X-Sequence-Number: 221 Ed Thanks for the quick responce. I had the permissions set incorrectly, now I think everything is working. Thank you very much for you help. Kim Ed Kasky wrote: > 1. Did you restart sendmail? > > 2. Read the faq - > Specifically - > http://www.greatcircle.com/majordomo/majordomo-faq.html#2.11 - > "You have to configure smrsh to allow it to execute the wrapper. > Normally this is done by creating a symlink in /var/adm/sm.bin > (in some it's /etc/smrsh) to Majordomo's wrapper program." > > 3. Check your permissions on the wrapper > -rwsr-xr-x 1 root root 14850 Apr 21 2000 wrapper > > Let us know what happens.... > > Ed > > At 11:51 PM Friday, 2/1/2002, you wrote -=> > >> ED, I did not make majordom a trusted user, but I have now, but I >> still get the same error message. >> >> Any other ideas? Could it be ownership or chmod settings? Or >> anything else? >> >> Kim >> >> >> >> >> Ed Kasky wrote: >> >>> Did you make majordom a trusted user in sendmail.cf? >>> This is what my .cf looks like: >>> ##################### >>> # Trusted users # >>> ##################### >>> # this is equivalent to setting class "t" >>> #Ft/etc/mail/trusted-users >>> Troot >>> Tdaemon >>> Tuucp >>> Tmajordom >>> As always, you should make any changes to the cf using the m4 macro. >>> Use the following line in the mc: >>> define(`confTRUSTED_USERS', `majordom')dnl >>> Ed >>> At 01:13 AM 2/1/2002, you wrote: >>> >>>> I'm not sure what I am doing wrong, but I am unable to get majordomo >>>> to work on my new linux install. When I try to send a message to a >>>> list, I get the following returned email >>>> >>>> ----- The following addresses had permanent fatal errors ----- >>>> "|/usr/test/majordomo/wrapper resend -r tvmas-l -l tvmas-l >>>> tvmas-l-outgoing" >>>> (reason: service unavailable) >>>> (expanded from: ) >>>> >>>> ----- Transcript of session follows ----- >>>> Message delivered to mailing list >>>> smrsh: wrapper not available for sendmail programs >>>> 554 5.0.0 Service unavailable >>>> >>>> >>>> I have added a sym link to the wrapper to the /etc/smrsh directory, >>>> and restarted sendmail, but it still is failing. Could it be a >>>> permissions problem with wrapper? >>>> >>>> Thanks >>>> >>>> Kim >>> >>> >> >> > > From majordomo-users-owner@greatcircle.com Sat Feb 2 06:50:53 2002 Received: from tomts10-srv.bellnexxia.net (tomts10.bellnexxia.net [209.226.175.54]) by mycroft.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6C6D11959EE for ; Sat, 2 Feb 2002 06:50:49 -0800 (PST) Received: from ACER ([65.94.210.8]) by tomts10-srv.bellnexxia.net (InterMail vM.4.01.03.16 201-229-121-116-20010115) with SMTP id <20020202145048.WTUV11118.tomts10-srv.bellnexxia.net@ACER>; Sat, 2 Feb 2002 09:50:48 -0500 Message-Id: <3.0.6.32.20020202094842.01b1e4f0@pop6.sympatico.ca> X-Sender: b1wudu74@pop6.sympatico.ca X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.6 (32) Date: Sat, 02 Feb 2002 09:48:42 -0500 To: Steve Mansfield From: Frank Bax Subject: Re: Bogus admin bounces Cc: majordomo-users@greatcircle.com (majordomo-users) In-Reply-To: <200202020429.XAA29259@gametools.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" X-Archive-Number: 200202/12 X-Sequence-Number: 222 In majordomo.cf, $admin_body contains: /\buns\w*b/i Would that do it? Don't ask me what that line is trying to catch! Frank At 11:29 PM 2/1/02 -0500, Steve Mansfield wrote: >I ran across a problem today which I was able to find a workaround for, but was >hoping someone might have found a proper fix for. > >I am running MD 1.94.5 > >The problem (as many others have seen) was that one of the lists I maintain >suddenly started sending a bounce back to a poster for no apparent reason. >After much testing, I was able to determine that if *any* word starting with >"uns" and containing the letter 'b' in the same word, regardless of the actual >spelling of the word, appeared near the start of the message, it apparently >mistook it for someone trying to "sunsubscribe". I tested it with a number of >patterns: "unspeakable", "unstoppable", "unshobanicle". All caused a bounce. >"unstopped" went through. > >Obviously something is parsing commands incorrectly here, but I'm not sure >whether it's in the majordomo Perl code, or if it's within Perl itself. Any >clues from anyone? > >-- >Steve Mansfield From majordomo-users-owner@greatcircle.com Sat Feb 2 12:05:50 2002 Received: from esson.net (esson.net [216.102.129.43]) by mycroft.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6E9C8195AE0 for ; Sat, 2 Feb 2002 12:05:49 -0800 (PST) Received: from Eds.wrenkasky.com (eds.wrenkasky.com [10.10.10.11]) by esson.net (8.12.1/8.12.1) with ESMTP id g12K5mx0020605; Sat, 2 Feb 2002 12:05:48 -0800 Message-Id: <4.3.2.7.2.20020202120454.00b28ac8@mail.esson.net> X-Sender: ed@mail.esson.net (Unverified) X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 4.3.2 Date: Sat, 02 Feb 2002 12:05:45 -0800 To: Kim Gross From: Ed Kasky Subject: Re: smrsh problems Cc: majordomo-users In-Reply-To: <3C5B97C3.10307@jensalt.com> References: <4.3.2.7.2.20020201074621.00b420d0@mail.esson.net> <4.3.2.7.2.20020201231917.00b28d20@mail.esson.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed X-Archive-Number: 200202/13 X-Sequence-Number: 223 Glad it worked... At 12:39 AM Saturday, 2/2/2002, Kim Gross wrote -=> >Ed >Thanks for the quick responce. I had the permissions set incorrectly, now >I think everything is working. > >Thank you very much for you help. > >Kim > > >Ed Kasky wrote: >>1. Did you restart sendmail? >>2. Read the faq - >>Specifically - http://www.greatcircle.com/majordomo/majordomo-faq.html#2.11 - >>"You have to configure smrsh to allow it to execute the wrapper. >>Normally this is done by creating a symlink in /var/adm/sm.bin >>(in some it's /etc/smrsh) to Majordomo's wrapper program." >>3. Check your permissions on the wrapper >>-rwsr-xr-x 1 root root 14850 Apr 21 2000 wrapper >>Let us know what happens.... Ed Kasky Los Angeles, CA . . . . . . . . If you can't learn to do it well, learn to enjoy doing it badly. -- Ashleigh Brilliant From majordomo-users-owner@greatcircle.com Mon Feb 4 06:12:15 2002 Received: from dagesh.fw.belnet.be (argos.belnet.be [193.190.198.37]) by mycroft.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1457C1959EB for ; Mon, 4 Feb 2002 06:12:14 -0800 (PST) Received: (from root@localhost) by dagesh.fw.belnet.be (8.11.5/8.11.5) id g14ECAL16455 for majordomo-users@greatcircle.com; Mon, 4 Feb 2002 15:12:11 +0100 (MET) Received: from jeroen.fw.belnet.be (jeroen.fw.belnet.be [172.24.198.41]) by dagesh.fw.belnet.be (8.11.5/8.11.5) with ESMTP id g14EC1j16443 for ; Mon, 4 Feb 2002 15:12:02 +0100 (MET) Received: from jeroen.fw.belnet.be (jeroen.fw.belnet.be [172.24.198.41]) by jeroen.fw.belnet.be (8.12.1/8.12.1) with ESMTP id g14EC1IQ030951 for ; Mon, 4 Feb 2002 15:12:01 +0100 Received: (from jeroen@localhost) by jeroen.fw.belnet.be (8.12.1/8.12.1/Submit) id g14EC13u030948 for majordomo-users@greatcircle.com; Mon, 4 Feb 2002 15:12:01 +0100 Date: Mon, 4 Feb 2002 15:12:01 +0100 From: Jeroen Valcke To: majordomo-users@greatcircle.com Subject: Which version of Majordomo Message-ID: <20020204151158.L29618@belnet.be> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i X-Virus-Scanned: by AMaViS perl-11 X-Archive-Number: 200202/14 X-Sequence-Number: 224 Hello, Pretty obvious question but it doesn't seem to be in the FAQ. I inherited a majordomo config and want to know which version it is? How to check majordomo version? Thanks. -- jeroen.valcke@belnet.be http://www.belnet.be From majordomo-users-owner@greatcircle.com Mon Feb 4 06:44:54 2002 Received: from mail.brunata-huerth.de (mail.brunata-huerth.de [195.14.224.179]) by mycroft.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D6CCC1959EC for ; Mon, 4 Feb 2002 06:44:50 -0800 (PST) Received: (from uucp@localhost) by mail.brunata-huerth.de (8.9.3/8.9.3/SuSE Linux 8.9.3-0.1) id PAA23517; Mon, 4 Feb 2002 15:44:44 +0100 Received: from r132099-1.brunata-huerth.de(172.18.133.1), claiming to be "r1320991" via SMTP by mail.brunata-huerth.de, id smtpd7oXiMc; Mon Feb 4 15:44:42 2002 From: "Georg Zumstrull" To: "Jeroen Valcke" , Subject: Re: Which version of Majordomo Date: Mon, 4 Feb 2002 15:45:07 +0100 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 In-Reply-To: <20020204151158.L29618@belnet.be> Importance: Normal X-Archive-Number: 200202/15 X-Sequence-Number: 225 Hi, have a look at majordomo_version.pl or send a help command to majordomo. Georg Zumstrull > -----Original Message----- > From: majordomo-users-owner@greatcircle.com > [mailto:majordomo-users-owner@greatcircle.com]On Behalf Of Jeroen Valcke > Sent: Monday, February 04, 2002 3:12 PM > To: majordomo-users@greatcircle.com > Subject: Which version of Majordomo > > > Hello, > > Pretty obvious question but it doesn't seem to be in the FAQ. > I inherited a majordomo config and want to know which version it is? > How to check majordomo version? > > Thanks. > > -- > jeroen.valcke@belnet.be > http://www.belnet.be From majordomo-users-owner@greatcircle.com Mon Feb 4 06:56:46 2002 Received: from dc-pdc-86.home.danish-company.com (secmail.danish-company.net [212.130.77.7]) by mycroft.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id AEFEC1959EB for ; Mon, 4 Feb 2002 06:56:44 -0800 (PST) Received: by dc-pdc-86.home.danish-company.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id <1JBQ3YAH>; Mon, 4 Feb 2002 15:56:44 +0100 Message-ID: <1EE9966824C2D411800D0010B540839315425C@dc-pdc-86.home.danish-company.com> From: Thomas Hanson To: "'majordomo-users@greatcircle.com'" Subject: how to have several mail aliases for one maillinglist Date: Mon, 4 Feb 2002 15:56:37 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" X-Archive-Number: 200202/16 X-Sequence-Number: 226 Hi We have just shiftet our mailsystem to linux (Sun cobalt cube3, majordomo_version = 1.94.4 ) and we use majordomo for mailing lists (I have never used it before). When we created our mailing list it has but one email address. Is there a way to have several mail aliases pointing to the same mailinglist. If so where do I add them. I think it is in the maillist.config file, but where? I have the following files in /usr/local/majordomo/lists netudvalget netudvalget.config netudvalget.administrator Thanks Thomas Hanson From majordomo-users-owner@greatcircle.com Mon Feb 4 07:08:23 2002 Received: from mimesweeper.derwent.co.uk (unknown [193.123.78.40]) by mycroft.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E83F41959EB for ; Mon, 4 Feb 2002 07:08:20 -0800 (PST) Received: from der-lon-msg-01.derwent.co.uk (unverified) by mimesweeper.derwent.co.uk (Content Technologies SMTPRS 4.1.2) with ESMTP id for ; Mon, 4 Feb 2002 15:11:45 +0000 Received: by DER-LON-MSG-01.derwent.co.uk with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id <1CW846XB>; Mon, 4 Feb 2002 15:07:37 -0000 Message-ID: <735CC28AB3A9D51193F500508BBE0C0F5F6A5A@DER-LON-MSG-02.derwent.co.uk> From: "Davis, Tracy" To: "'majordomo-users@greatcircle.com'" Subject: Email filters Date: Mon, 4 Feb 2002 15:09:36 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: multipart/alternative ; boundary="----_=_NextPart_001_01C1AD8D.F5B246E0" X-Archive-Number: 200202/17 X-Sequence-Number: 227 This message is in MIME format. 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Hi
I'm having trouble with one of the members of my mailing list.  This person's company has put a filter into their email system which will not allow mail to, or from, certain competitors of theirs.  However, it is also blocking all mail from our mailing list.  People working for the competitors are subscribers to the list but it is blocking ALL the mail even when it is not from members which happen to work for their competitors.
 
My questions are:
Why is this happening?  And what can be done to stop it (if anything) from my end.

Tracy

 


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 ------_=_NextPart_001_01C1AD8D.F5B246E0-- From majordomo-users-owner@greatcircle.com Mon Feb 4 07:35:27 2002 Received: from one.exelana.com (adsl-66-124-148-242.dsl.sntc01.pacbell.net [66.124.148.242]) by mycroft.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 651051959F2 for ; Mon, 4 Feb 2002 07:35:24 -0800 (PST) Received: from TP600-16 (c-10-0-0-16.gwclients.exelana.com [10.0.0.16]) by one.exelana.com (Postfix) with SMTP id CB3FC1959FA for ; Mon, 4 Feb 2002 07:35:23 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <00ed01c1ad91$6ac14a00$1000000a@TP600-16.exelana.com> From: "Tony Lewis" To: Subject: Re: Email filters Date: Mon, 4 Feb 2002 07:34:21 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_00EA_01C1AD4E.5C85A000" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.2106.4 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 X-Archive-Number: 200202/18 X-Sequence-Number: 228 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_00EA_01C1AD4E.5C85A000 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I suspect the problem is entirely at the subscribers' end and that there is= little you can do about it. Sounds to me like they are filtering for some = string in any message header (and not just in the From header). Take a look at your the mail headers for a message sent to the list and see= if the competitor's name appears anywhere in the headers. Tony -----Original Message----- From: Davis, Tracy To: 'majordomo-users@greatcircle.com' Date: Monday, February 04, 2002 7:12 AM Subject: Email filters =20=20=20=20 =20=20=20=20 Hi I'm having trouble with one of the members of my mailing list. This pe= rson's company has put a filter into their email system which will not allo= w mail to, or from, certain competitors of theirs. However, it is also blo= cking all mail from our mailing list. People working for the competitors a= re subscribers to the list but it is blocking ALL the mail even when it is = not from members which happen to work for their competitors. =20=20=20=20=20 My questions are: Why is this happening? And what can be done to stop it (if anything) f= rom my end. Tracy =20=20=20=20 =20=20=20=20 =20=20=20=20 ********************************************************************** This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify the system manager. =20=20=20=20 This footnote also confirms that this email message has been swept by MIMEsweeper for the presence of computer viruses. =20=20=20=20 www.mimesweeper.com ********************************************************************** ------=_NextPart_000_00EA_01C1AD4E.5C85A000 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
I suspect the problem is entirely at the subscribers' e= nd and=20 that there is little you can do about it. Sounds to me like they are filter= ing=20 for some string in any message header (and not just in the From=20 header).
 
Take a look at your the mail headers fo= r a=20 message sent to the list and see if the competitor's name appears anywhere = in=20 the headers.
 
Tony
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Date:=20 Monday, February 04, 2002 7:12 AM
Subject: Email=20 filters

Hi
I'm h= aving=20 trouble with one of the members of my mailing list.  This person's= =20 company has put a filter into their email system which will not allow m= ail=20 to, or from, certain competitors of theirs.  However, it is also= =20 blocking all mail from our mailing list.  People working for the= =20 competitors are subscribers to the list but it is blocking ALL the=20 mail even when it is not from members which happen to work for the= ir=20 competitors.
 
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Why i= s this=20 happening?  And what can be done to stop it (if anything) from my= =20 end.

Tracy

 


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 ------=_NextPart_000_00EA_01C1AD4E.5C85A000-- From majordomo-users-owner@greatcircle.com Mon Feb 4 07:46:38 2002 Received: from hugin.microcraft.se (hugin.microcraft.se [212.181.0.165]) by mycroft.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 20E81195AAA for ; Mon, 4 Feb 2002 07:46:35 -0800 (PST) Received: from mcd0715 (loke.microcraft.se [212.181.0.162]) by hugin.microcraft.se (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id QAA28911 for ; Mon, 4 Feb 2002 16:46:32 +0100 Message-ID: <01b401c1ad93$1e844ff0$0f05000a@corp.microcraft.se> Reply-To: "Marko Kupiainen" From: "Marko Kupiainen" To: Subject: Sendmail sending listpostings more than once Date: Mon, 4 Feb 2002 16:46:32 +0100 Organization: Microcraft AB MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 X-Archive-Number: 200202/19 X-Sequence-Number: 229 Hi everyone This is my first posting to this list so Im excited if Im going to get any answers ;) First a listing of software Im using: Running RedHat Linux 6.1 kernel 2.2.12-20 (yes its old but Im familiar with it) Perl 5.00503-6 Sendmail 8.9.3-15 Majordomo 1.94.5 The odd problem: We use Majordomo to distribute news to our customers and for that purpose I have configured 2 lists, lets call them A and B. Both lists have worked flawless for half a year. List A consists of about 100 recipients and B (the problemlist) has about 400 recipients. List A never buggs me but list B has suddenly started to send mail repeated times until I delete the queue and stop it. This hasnt always been the problem but started (I think) when the list grew to 400 recipients. Both lists only accepts postings from 2 internal members becouse its sole purpose is to distribute news from us to our customers. I have compared the maillog for list A sending and list B sending and both gives same logg information but list B does it more than once which is the problem. Why does Sendmail trying to distribute same mail more than once ? Has anybody encountered this problem before ? I searced Internet for clews but couldnt find anything that matched. Found a email adress that was bouncing and deleted it but that wasnt the solution ... If anybody has a clue please share it with me ... If you would like more specified maillogs or other info just say so and I will gladly comply. regards Marko Kupiainen CIO Microcraft AB Sweden From majordomo-users-owner@greatcircle.com Mon Feb 4 07:52:53 2002 Received: from hugin.microcraft.se (hugin.microcraft.se [212.181.0.165]) by mycroft.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 15815195AC4 for ; Mon, 4 Feb 2002 07:52:52 -0800 (PST) Received: from mcd0715 (loke.microcraft.se [212.181.0.162]) by hugin.microcraft.se (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id QAA29020 for ; Mon, 4 Feb 2002 16:52:51 +0100 Message-ID: <01be01c1ad94$003da6d0$0f05000a@corp.microcraft.se> Reply-To: "Marko Kupiainen" From: "Marko Kupiainen" To: Subject: Something is stripping my message footer Date: Mon, 4 Feb 2002 16:52:51 +0100 Organization: Microcraft AB MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 X-Archive-Number: 200202/20 X-Sequence-Number: 230 Hi everyone First a listing of software Im using: Running RedHat Linux 6.1 kernel 2.2.12-20 (yes its old but Im familiar with it) Perl 5.00503-6 Sendmail 8.9.3-15 Majordomo 1.94.5 The problem: Sometimes when we attach a .pdf file to our outgoing mail and send it to majordomo, something strips of the footer. If we dont attach a file it looks ok. Everything else looks ok in the stripped mail and the attached file is ok, BUT the footer is gone. Have anyone seen this before ? regards Marko Kupiainen CIO Microcraft AB Sweden From majordomo-users-owner@greatcircle.com Mon Feb 4 08:10:34 2002 Received: from relay1.teledanmark.no (relay1.teledanmark.no [195.70.164.132]) by mycroft.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3C7C91959E7 for ; Mon, 4 Feb 2002 08:10:33 -0800 (PST) Received: from pc3162.ost.eltele.no (pc3162.ost.eltele.no [0.0.0.0]) by relay1.teledanmark.no (8.11.4/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g14GAQw06773 for ; Mon, 4 Feb 2002 17:10:26 +0100 (MET) Date: Mon, 4 Feb 2002 17:10:26 +0100 From: "St - Musaic.Net" X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.53d) UNREG / CD5BF9353B3B7091 Reply-To: "St - Musaic.Net" Organization: Musaic.Net X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <9517795187.20020204171026@musaic.net> To: "Mojo N'Domo" Subject: Re: Email filters In-Reply-To: <735CC28AB3A9D51193F500508BBE0C0F5F6A5A@DER-LON-MSG-02.derwent.co.uk> References: <735CC28AB3A9D51193F500508BBE0C0F5F6A5A@DER-LON-MSG-02.derwent.co.uk> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Archive-Number: 200202/21 X-Sequence-Number: 231 > Why is this happening? Are you a customer of one of their competitors, maybe? Could it be that you are blocked because of the IP address your domain/list is having? / St From majordomo-users-owner@greatcircle.com Mon Feb 4 08:11:42 2002 Received: from tomts7-srv.bellnexxia.net (tomts7.bellnexxia.net [209.226.175.40]) by mycroft.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7463F1959E7 for ; Mon, 4 Feb 2002 08:11:41 -0800 (PST) Received: from ACER ([65.94.210.8]) by tomts7-srv.bellnexxia.net (InterMail vM.4.01.03.16 201-229-121-116-20010115) with SMTP id <20020204161140.LZAS18463.tomts7-srv.bellnexxia.net@ACER>; Mon, 4 Feb 2002 11:11:40 -0500 Message-Id: <3.0.6.32.20020204110929.01daa250@pop6.sympatico.ca> X-Sender: b1wudu74@pop6.sympatico.ca X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.6 (32) Date: Mon, 04 Feb 2002 11:09:29 -0500 To: "Marko Kupiainen" From: Frank Bax Subject: Re: Sendmail sending listpostings more than once Cc: In-Reply-To: <01b401c1ad93$1e844ff0$0f05000a@corp.microcraft.se> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" X-Archive-Number: 200202/22 X-Sequence-Number: 232 I had this problem once, and it has nothing to do with sendmail itself. One of the list members was redirecting mail back to the mailing list *without* any changes to content within the mail message. By doing this, the message appeared to be coming from an authorized user and therefore majordomo happily sent out this duplicate message to the entire list. The way to spot this problem is to take a look at the received headers of the duplicate, you will see the are many more headers in the duplicate than the original. Frank At 04:46 PM 2/4/02 +0100, Marko Kupiainen wrote: >Hi everyone >This is my first posting to this list so Im excited if Im going to get any >answers ;) > >First a listing of software Im using: > >Running RedHat Linux 6.1 kernel 2.2.12-20 (yes its old but Im familiar with >it) >Perl 5.00503-6 >Sendmail 8.9.3-15 >Majordomo 1.94.5 > > >The odd problem: > >We use Majordomo to distribute news to our customers and for that purpose I >have configured 2 lists, lets call them A and B. >Both lists have worked flawless for half a year. >List A consists of about 100 recipients and B (the problemlist) has about >400 recipients. >List A never buggs me but list B has suddenly started to send mail repeated >times until I delete the queue and stop it. >This hasnt always been the problem but started (I think) when the list grew >to 400 recipients. >Both lists only accepts postings from 2 internal members becouse its sole >purpose is to distribute news from us to our customers. > >I have compared the maillog for list A sending and list B sending and both >gives same logg information but list B does it more than once which is the >problem. Why does Sendmail trying to distribute same mail more than once ? > >Has anybody encountered this problem before ? >I searced Internet for clews but couldnt find anything that matched. >Found a email adress that was bouncing and deleted it but that wasnt the >solution ... > >If anybody has a clue please share it with me ... >If you would like more specified maillogs or other info just say so and I >will gladly comply. > > >regards >Marko Kupiainen >CIO Microcraft AB Sweden > > > > > > > From majordomo-users-owner@greatcircle.com Mon Feb 4 08:13:23 2002 Received: from legpdc.legendent.com (unknown [38.201.159.130]) by mycroft.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E6365195BE8 for ; Mon, 4 Feb 2002 08:13:21 -0800 (PST) Received: from DBECK ([38.201.159.174]) by legpdc.legendent.com with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service Version 5.5.2650.21) id 1DG8C1JB; Mon, 4 Feb 2002 11:10:34 -0500 Message-ID: <023f01c1ad96$feb292a0$ae9fc926@legendent.com> From: "Duane Beck" To: "Marko Kupiainen" , References: <01be01c1ad94$003da6d0$0f05000a@corp.microcraft.se> Subject: Re: Something is stripping my message footer Date: Mon, 4 Feb 2002 11:14:12 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4807.1700 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4807.1700 X-Archive-Number: 200202/23 X-Sequence-Number: 233 > The problem: > Sometimes when we attach a .pdf file to our outgoing mail and send it to > majordomo, something strips of the footer. > If we dont attach a file it looks ok. > Everything else looks ok in the stripped mail and the attached file is ok, > BUT the footer is gone. > Have anyone seen this before ? Majordomo doesn't know how to modify MIME messages. It simply appends the footer text to the message body, so any MIME messages (e.g. messages with attachments) will usually not show the footer properly. From majordomo-users-owner@greatcircle.com Mon Feb 4 11:18:46 2002 Received: from mail.taratec.com (unknown [65.170.57.130]) by mycroft.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with SMTP id A81DC1959F2 for ; Mon, 4 Feb 2002 11:18:42 -0800 (PST) Received: from no.name.available by mail.taratec.com via smtpd (for mycroft.greatcircle.com [198.102.244.36]) with SMTP; 4 Feb 2002 19:18:42 UT Received: by njex01.taratec.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id ; Mon, 4 Feb 2002 14:18:20 -0500 Message-ID: <174DFA06CDE8D411A1FB00B0D079EA47AC2997@njex01.taratec.com> From: SMiller@Taratec.com To: fbax@sympatico.ca, marko.kupiainen@microcraft.se Cc: majordomo-users@greatcircle.com Subject: Re: Sendmail sending listpostings more than once Date: Mon, 4 Feb 2002 14:18:17 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" X-Archive-Number: 200202/24 X-Sequence-Number: 234 Marko, Can't help too much with the fix for the looping (I have similar poblems but can't figure it out) but there is a way to stop it. I have used the taboo_headers def in the list.config file to stop the loops. You need to first define a custom message_header something like 'X-Mailing List:' then add the appropriate regex in the taboo_headers section to catch it. Sorry I don't have the exact var names or regex but you can find plenty of examples in the md list archives (even if they are out of date) at http://www.greatcircle.com/lists/majordomo-users/. You can do this globally as well by doing the same in majordomo.cf. Hope it helps. Stu -----Original Message----- From: Frank Bax To: Marko Kupiainen Cc: majordomo-users@greatcircle.com Sent: 2/4/02 11:09 AM Subject: Re: Sendmail sending listpostings more than once I had this problem once, and it has nothing to do with sendmail itself. One of the list members was redirecting mail back to the mailing list *without* any changes to content within the mail message. By doing this, the message appeared to be coming from an authorized user and therefore majordomo happily sent out this duplicate message to the entire list. The way to spot this problem is to take a look at the received headers of the duplicate, you will see the are many more headers in the duplicate than the original. Frank At 04:46 PM 2/4/02 +0100, Marko Kupiainen wrote: >Hi everyone >This is my first posting to this list so Im excited if Im going to get any >answers ;) > >First a listing of software Im using: > >Running RedHat Linux 6.1 kernel 2.2.12-20 (yes its old but Im familiar with >it) >Perl 5.00503-6 >Sendmail 8.9.3-15 >Majordomo 1.94.5 > > >The odd problem: > >We use Majordomo to distribute news to our customers and for that purpose I >have configured 2 lists, lets call them A and B. >Both lists have worked flawless for half a year. >List A consists of about 100 recipients and B (the problemlist) has about >400 recipients. >List A never buggs me but list B has suddenly started to send mail repeated >times until I delete the queue and stop it. >This hasnt always been the problem but started (I think) when the list grew >to 400 recipients. >Both lists only accepts postings from 2 internal members becouse its sole >purpose is to distribute news from us to our customers. > >I have compared the maillog for list A sending and list B sending and both >gives same logg information but list B does it more than once which is the >problem. Why does Sendmail trying to distribute same mail more than once ? > >Has anybody encountered this problem before ? >I searced Internet for clews but couldnt find anything that matched. >Found a email adress that was bouncing and deleted it but that wasnt the >solution ... > >If anybody has a clue please share it with me ... >If you would like more specified maillogs or other info just say so and I >will gladly comply. > > >regards >Marko Kupiainen >CIO Microcraft AB Sweden > > > > > > > NOTICE: This electronic mail transmission and any attachment(s) may contain confidential information and are intended only for the person(s) named. Any use, copying or disclosure by any other person is strictly prohibited. If you have received this transmission in error, please notify the sender via e-mail and delete this message. From majordomo-users-owner@greatcircle.com Mon Feb 4 12:36:06 2002 Received: from xrx-inc.com (mail.xrx-inc.com [12.13.116.226]) by mycroft.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A31561959F2 for ; Mon, 4 Feb 2002 12:36:04 -0800 (PST) Received: (from timothy@localhost) by xrx-inc.com (8.11.1/8.11.1) id g14Kc4B25939 for majordomo-users@greatcircle.com; Mon, 4 Feb 2002 14:38:04 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from timothy) Date: Mon, 4 Feb 2002 14:38:04 -0600 (CST) From: "Dr. Tim" Message-Id: <200202042038.g14Kc4B25939@xrx-inc.com> To: majordomo-users@greatcircle.com Subject: taboo's X-Archive-Number: 200202/25 X-Sequence-Number: 235 Is it not the case that when something is caught by the taboo part of majordomo that it is not dumped but sent to the moderator of the list? Or am I wrong. It would be nice if one could send certain taboo's to dev-null and others to the moderator? I am curious if this is possible. THanks tim From majordomo-users-owner@greatcircle.com Mon Feb 4 19:17:10 2002 Received: from penguin.postmodern.com (penguin.postmodern.com [216.240.39.2]) by mycroft.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E3B92195C91 for ; Wed, 30 Jan 2002 05:45:52 -0800 (PST) Received: from tetsuo.woogie.net (dsl-65-187-200-121.telocity.com [65.187.200.121]) by penguin.postmodern.com (8.11.1/8.11.1-mcb-20001119) with ESMTP id g0T3MmI24481 for ; Mon, 28 Jan 2002 19:22:49 -0800 Received: from localhost.localdomain (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by tetsuo.woogie.net (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g0T3Lim11610; Mon, 28 Jan 2002 22:21:44 -0500 Subject: Re: digest broken? From: Mike Wohlgemuth To: Mike Wohlgemuth Cc: majordomo-users@greatcircle.com In-Reply-To: <1012182515.8716.166.camel@tetsuo.woogie.net> References: <1012147092.8716.126.camel@tetsuo.woogie.net> <3C54AA72.C1AE002D@sonny.org> <1012182515.8716.166.camel@tetsuo.woogie.net> Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Evolution/1.0.1.99+cvs.2002.01.14.17.03 (Preview Release) Date: 28 Jan 2002 22:21:44 -0500 Message-Id: <1012274507.9149.208.camel@tetsuo.woogie.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Archive-Number: 200202/26 X-Sequence-Number: 236 I've found what my problem was. In my /etc/majordomo.cf I had the following: $whereami = `/bin/dnsdomainname`; This was setting $whereami to my domain name with a trailing newline, so was screwing up digest's call to sendmail. I replaced this with $whereami = "woogie.net"; and everything is working now. Mike On Sun, 2002-01-27 at 20:48, Mike Wohlgemuth wrote: > Thanks for the reply. > > Here is what I get when I try that: > > Subject: Majordomo results > Reply-To: Majordomo@woogie.net > > > -- > > >>>> mkdigest test-digest password > producing test-digest V1 #1 > processing /var/lib/majordomo/digest/beerdammit-digest/001 > Recipient names must be specified > sh: test-digest-outgoing: command not found > >>>> > > Again, the digest gets created, but nothing gets sent out. > > Thanks > Mike > > On Sun, 2002-01-27 at 20:33, Daniel Liston wrote: > > The correct syntax for forcing a digest to be created and distributed is; > > > > email to majordomo@your.domain > > with a message body of > > > > mkdigest > > or > > mkdigest > > > > If your aliases use listname-digest-outgoing as their distribution > > address, you can use the first form of the command. > > > > The syntax you are referring to below is for your listname-digestify > > alias, BUT -m should NOT be used there, -r should. > > > > If you want to force digests via cron, do something like this in crontab; > > > > 30 4 * * 5 echo mkdigest test-digest test-digest-whatever | mail majordomo > > > > If you want the list to go out daily, change the "5" above, to a "*". > > > > Dan Liston > > > > Mike Wohlgemuth wrote: > > > > > > First, I have just installed the majordomo-1.94.5-2 RPM on a RedHat 7.1 > > > box. I have also downloaded the latest source directly from > > > greatcircle.com, but it doesn't look like it would behave any > > > differently for me. > > > > > > Second, if this is an FAQ, I'm sorry, but I couldn't find anything about > > > it in my searching. I've just seen so many people posting that didn't > > > have this problem that it seems like I must be missing something > > > obvious. > > > > > > Okay, on to my problem. I have seen many examples of using digest in a > > > cron job to force a new issue of a digested list, all of which pretty > > > much look like: > > > > > > digest -m -C -l list-digest list-digest-outgoing > > > > > > The problem is that, as far as I can tell, this is not a valid command > > > line for digest. Here is the output I get when I try this: > > > > > > producing list-digest V1 #1 > > > processing /var/lib/majordomo/digest/list-digest/001 > > > processing /var/lib/majordomo/digest/list-digest/002 > > > processing /var/lib/majordomo/digest/list-digest/003 > > > processing /var/lib/majordomo/digest/list-digest/004 > > > Recipient names must be specified > > > sh: list-digest-outgoing: command not found. > > > > > > The digest gets created, but nothing ever gets sent out. After the > > > "Recipient names must be specified", the process looks to be waiting for > > > input. It hangs until I hit control-D. > > > > > > The usage statement for digest looks like: > > > > > > Usage: digest {-r|-R|-m|-p} [-c config|(-C -l list)] > > > Stopped at ./digest line 502. > > > > > > So it looks like the "list-digest-outgoing" is being ignored by digest. > > > If this is the case, then that means every bit of documentation I've > > > seen is wrong, so I'm feeling like I'm in the Twilight Zone. > > > > > > Someone please help me back to reality here. > > > > > > Thanks > > > Mike > > From majordomo-users-owner@greatcircle.com Mon Feb 4 19:25:39 2002 Received: from neugate (neugate.wustl.edu [128.252.151.95]) by mycroft.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5268E1959EA for ; Thu, 31 Jan 2002 09:09:33 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail pickup service by neugate with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Thu, 31 Jan 2002 11:09:49 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit x-receiver: palmerh@neuro.wustl.edu Received: from mycroft.greatcircle.com ([64.81.251.250]) by neugate with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.3779); Thu, 31 Jan 2002 11:09:47 -0600 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4807.1700 Received: from greatcircle.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mycroft.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with SMTP id 9C071195B55 for ; Thu, 31 Jan 2002 09:08:34 -0800 (PST) Received: from xrx-inc.com (mail.xrx-inc.com [12.13.116.226]) by mycroft.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id BD24A1959EA for ; Thu, 31 Jan 2002 09:08:27 -0800 (PST) Received: (from timothy@localhost) by xrx-inc.com (8.11.1/8.11.1) id g0VHAq283867; Thu, 31 Jan 2002 11:10:52 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from timothy) Date: Thu, 31 Jan 2002 11:10:52 -0600 (CST) From: "Dr. Tim" Message-ID: <200201311710.g0VHAq283867@xrx-inc.com> To: , Subject: Re: Sendmail 8.12 and preventing unauthorized distribution via list-outgoing In-Reply-To: <20020130215029.A10202@jane.smoe.org> Precedence: bulk X-OriginalArrivalTime: 31 Jan 2002 17:09:47.0531 (UTC) FILETIME=[160605B0:01C1AA7A] X-Archive-Number: 200202/27 X-Sequence-Number: 237 Can you explain in more detail what you are doing? howdoes this stop that particular virus or what are you stopping? Right now I have a moderator that is having a cow because for the first time in 5 years. Attachments are coming through to be approved our users had never sent attachments before. I have to use demime I believe to strip attachments but what else should I do to protect my moderator? Tim From majordomo-users-owner@greatcircle.com Mon Feb 4 19:26:11 2002 Received: from neugate (neugate.wustl.edu [128.252.151.95]) by mycroft.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0BB111959EA for ; Thu, 31 Jan 2002 09:30:03 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail pickup service by neugate with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Thu, 31 Jan 2002 11:30:19 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit x-receiver: palmerh@neuro.wustl.edu Received: from mycroft.greatcircle.com ([64.81.251.250]) by neugate with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.3779); Thu, 31 Jan 2002 11:30:17 -0600 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4807.1700 Received: from greatcircle.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mycroft.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with SMTP id 8BDF4195C03 for ; Thu, 31 Jan 2002 09:17:53 -0800 (PST) Received: from xrx-inc.com (mail.xrx-inc.com [12.13.116.226]) by mycroft.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3AD0E195B9F for ; Thu, 31 Jan 2002 09:17:49 -0800 (PST) Received: (from timothy@localhost) by xrx-inc.com (8.11.1/8.11.1) id g0VHKCb84100; Thu, 31 Jan 2002 11:20:12 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from timothy) Date: Thu, 31 Jan 2002 11:20:12 -0600 (CST) From: "Dr. Tim" Message-ID: <200201311720.g0VHKCb84100@xrx-inc.com> To: , Subject: Re: can't get lock for *.config Cc: In-Reply-To: <200201302221.g0UMLdh02998@miles.dynamicdiagrams.com> Precedence: bulk X-OriginalArrivalTime: 31 Jan 2002 17:30:17.0421 (UTC) FILETIME=[F31857D0:01C1AA7C] X-Archive-Number: 200202/28 X-Sequence-Number: 238 what did you write joe? makes no sense. I could use the help also. Tim From majordomo-users-owner@greatcircle.com Mon Feb 4 19:27:08 2002 Received: from gopostal.onlinepolicy.net (gopostal.onlinepolicy.net [209.157.101.241]) by mycroft.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C57D5195ADE for ; Sat, 2 Feb 2002 09:48:07 -0800 (PST) Received: from ROGERK.queernet.org ([12.154.238.106]) (authenticated (0 bits)) by gopostal.onlinepolicy.net (Switch-2.2.0/Switch-2.2.0) with ESMTP id g12HjMV09938; Sat, 2 Feb 2002 09:45:23 -0800 Message-Id: <5.1.0.14.0.20020202094737.00aa5fb0@gopostal.onlinepolicy.net> X-Sender: rogerk@queernet.org@gopostal.onlinepolicy.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Sat, 02 Feb 2002 09:48:18 -0800 To: Frank Bax , Steve Mansfield From: "Roger B.A. Klorese" Subject: Re: Bogus admin bounces Cc: majordomo-users@greatcircle.com (majordomo-users) In-Reply-To: <3.0.6.32.20020202094842.01b1e4f0@pop6.sympatico.ca> References: <200202020429.XAA29259@gametools.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed X-Archive-Number: 200202/29 X-Sequence-Number: 239 At 09:48 AM 2/2/2002 -0500, Frank Bax wrote: >In majordomo.cf, $admin_body contains: > >/\buns\w*b/i > >Would that do it? Don't ask me what that line is trying to catch! It's trying to catch "unscribe", "unsubscribe", "unsubscrube", and all of the other things we get constantly. From majordomo-users-owner@greatcircle.com Mon Feb 4 19:30:09 2002 Received: from neugate (neugate.wustl.edu [128.252.151.95]) by mycroft.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1CC3E1959F3 for ; Thu, 31 Jan 2002 09:22:39 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail pickup service by neugate with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Thu, 31 Jan 2002 11:22:55 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit x-receiver: palmerh@neuro.wustl.edu Received: from mycroft.greatcircle.com ([64.81.251.250]) by neugate with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.3779); Thu, 31 Jan 2002 11:22:53 -0600 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4807.1700 Received: from greatcircle.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mycroft.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with SMTP id 42105195B8D for ; Thu, 31 Jan 2002 09:16:41 -0800 (PST) Received: from xrx-inc.com (mail.xrx-inc.com [12.13.116.226]) by mycroft.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8D2EF195AA0 for ; Thu, 31 Jan 2002 09:16:36 -0800 (PST) Received: (from timothy@localhost) by xrx-inc.com (8.11.1/8.11.1) id g0VHJ5h84058; Thu, 31 Jan 2002 11:19:05 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from timothy) Date: Thu, 31 Jan 2002 11:19:05 -0600 (CST) From: "Dr. Tim" Message-ID: <200201311719.g0VHJ5h84058@xrx-inc.com> To: , Subject: Re: can't get lock for *.config In-Reply-To: <01C1A9E1.825A5B60.roman@blakout.net> Precedence: bulk X-OriginalArrivalTime: 31 Jan 2002 17:22:53.0703 (UTC) FILETIME=[EA9E5970:01C1AA7B] X-Archive-Number: 200202/30 X-Sequence-Number: 240 This has been happening with us also. BUT the .lock file goes awy. however it causes for use messages to fail to be put in the digest have you checked: the logs to see what other abort messages are happening becuase a lock file should not remain. That is the trouble... that cause all subsequent locks to fail. Good luck I want to hear what you find out! TIm From majordomo-users-owner@greatcircle.com Mon Feb 4 19:30:41 2002 Received: from fep02-mail.bloor.is.net.cable.rogers.com (fep02-mail.bloor.is.net.cable.rogers.com [66.185.86.72]) by mycroft.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id BD0681959EA for ; Thu, 31 Jan 2002 09:46:59 -0800 (PST) Received: from cr929299a ([24.43.103.26]) by fep02-mail.bloor.is.net.cable.rogers.com (InterMail vM.5.01.04.06 201-253-122-122-106-20020109) with ESMTP id <20020131174658.ODJJ287813.fep02-mail.bloor.is.net.cable.rogers.com@cr929299a> for ; Thu, 31 Jan 2002 12:46:58 -0500 Message-ID: <007c01c1a9cd$3d24db60$1a672b18@shprd.phub.net.cable.rogers.com> From: "Tim madden" To: Subject: HELP! 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------=_NextPart_000_0079_01C1A98A.2ECF40C0-- From majordomo-users-owner@greatcircle.com Mon Feb 4 19:31:27 2002 Received: from mail1.hitachi.net (netsvc1.hitachi.net [63.66.25.4]) by mycroft.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id ABBB4195AA0 for ; Thu, 31 Jan 2002 15:24:13 -0800 (PST) Received: from pop.hal.hitachi.com (homea.hitachi.net [63.66.25.129]) by mail1.hitachi.net (Netscape Messaging Server 4.15 mail1 Dec 7 2001 09:58:59) with ESMTP id GQTT0C01.SEC for ; Thu, 31 Jan 2002 15:24:12 -0800 Received: from md1-sv04-sfo.hal.hitachi.com ([137.168.153.26]) by pop.hal.hitachi.com (Netscape Messaging Server 4.15) with SMTP id GQTT0C00.D4D for ; Thu, 31 Jan 2002 15:24:12 -0800 Received: from smtp1.hsa.hitachi.com ([137.168.8.2]) by md1-sv04-sfo.hal.hitachi.com (NAVGW 2.5.1.13) with SMTP id M2002013115265332560 for ; Thu, 31 Jan 2002 15:26:54 -0800 Received: from superh.com ([192.131.10.65]) by smtp1.hsa.hitachi.com (Netscape Messaging Server 4.15) with ESMTP id GQTT1400.U3A; Thu, 31 Jan 2002 15:24:40 -0800 Message-ID: <3C59D210.883B56C3@superh.com> Date: Thu, 31 Jan 2002 15:24:00 -0800 From: Sung Kim X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (X11; I; SunOS 5.8 sun4u) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Majordomo-Users@GreatCircle.COM Subject: Majordomo Deployment with MS Exchange Email Server Content-Type: text/plain; charset=EUC-KR Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Archive-Number: 200202/32 X-Sequence-Number: 242 Dear All, I have some questions and considerations that I 'd like to discuss with you, please feel free to give me any inputs or advices. Is it possible to have majordomo (mailing lists server) integrated with MS Exchange Email Server? In addition, we are planning to use SMTP Relay server that is running solaris 2.8 on Netra X1, can we utilize SMTP relay server for Majordomo? Note) We will have 1 MS Exchange Email Server (internal) and 1 SMTP Relay server (external). I look forward to seeing good solutions. Thanks, Kim From majordomo-users-owner@greatcircle.com Mon Feb 4 19:31:50 2002 Received: from euclid.cs.niu.edu (euclid.cs.niu.edu [131.156.145.14]) by mycroft.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B235E1959F1 for ; Thu, 31 Jan 2002 16:01:00 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (rickert@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by euclid.cs.niu.edu (8.12.2/8.12.2) with ESMTP id g110061F019325; Thu, 31 Jan 2002 18:00:06 -0600 (CST) X-Mailer: exmh version 2.1.2 06/08/2000 To: dneal@cnls.lanl.gov Cc: majordomo-users@greatcircle.com, sendmail-questions@sendmail.org Reply-To: sendmail-questions@sendmail.org Subject: Re: RH 7.2/Majordomo 1.94.5/Sendmail 8.12.1 Problem References: <200201312332.g0VNWWk8007036@iiwi.lanl.gov> In-Reply-To: Message from of "Thu, 31 Jan 2002 16:32:32 MST." <200201312332.g0VNWWk8007036@iiwi.lanl.gov> Date: Thu, 31 Jan 2002 18:00:06 -0600 Message-ID: <19322.1012521606@euclid.cs.niu.edu> From: Neil W Rickert X-Archive-Number: 200202/33 X-Sequence-Number: 243 wrote: >Given the below information, does anyone know why >the majordomo resend is failing. I have a hunch the entry > mailer=prog It is normal to see "mailer=prog" when pipes are executed. >++++++++++++++++++ System Info ++++++++++++++++++++++++ >O/S - Linux 2.4.18-pre4 >Disto - Redhat 7.2 >Majordomo - 1.94.5 >Sendmail - 8.12.1 >++++++++++++++++++ Sendmail.mc ++++++++++++++++++++++++ >VERSIONID(`@(#)mailserver.mc 1.0 (yourdomain.com) 5/1/97') >OSTYPE(linux)dnl >DOMAIN(lanl)dnl >FEATURE(smrsh,/usr/sbin/smrsh)dnl >MAILER(local)dnl >MAILER(smtp)dnl >MAILER(procmail)dnl >define(`PROCMAIL_MAILER_PATH',`/usr/bin/procmail')dnl >define(`LUSER_RELAY',`mail.lanl.gov')dnl >define(`confLOG_LEVEL',12)dnl >define(`SMART_HOST', mail.lanl.gov)dnl >define(`LUSER_RELAY',`mail.lanl.gov')dnl >define(`confDONT_EXPAND_CNAMES',true)dnl >+++++++++++++++++++++++ Mail Log File Entry +++++++++++++++++++++++++++ >Jan 31 16:10:15 swan sendmail[4216]: g0VNAF60004215: to="|/home/majordomo/wrapper resend -l cnls-seminar-list cnls-seminar_list", ctladdr= (47/0), delay=00:00:00, xdelay=00:00:00, mailer=prog, pri=30013, dsn=5.3.0, stat=unknown mailer error 6 This means that the mailer gave an exit code of 6. The mailer in this case is "smrsh". If there were a problem it could detect, it would give its own message. So evidently "smrsh" was able to do an exec to "/bin/sh" to run the pipeline. After that, you will have to do some debugging. One possibility is that the environment available to your pipeline is somewhat restricted. Incidently, majordomo is known to work with sendmail-8.12, so the problem would appear to be something peculiar to your setup. -NWR From majordomo-users-owner@greatcircle.com Mon Feb 4 19:32:23 2002 Received: from horsey.gshapiro.net (horsey.gshapiro.net [209.220.147.178]) by mycroft.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4E53C1959F1 for ; Thu, 31 Jan 2002 16:07:41 -0800 (PST) Received: from horsey.gshapiro.net (gshapiro@localhost [IPv6:::1]) by horsey.gshapiro.net (8.12.2/8.12.2) with ESMTP id g1107cJD033132 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NO); Thu, 31 Jan 2002 16:07:38 -0800 (PST) Received: (from gshapiro@localhost) by horsey.gshapiro.net (8.12.2/8.12.2/Submit) id g1107ced033129; Thu, 31 Jan 2002 16:07:38 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <15449.56394.393142.676297@horsey.gshapiro.net> Date: Thu, 31 Jan 2002 16:07:38 -0800 From: Gregory Neil Shapiro To: Cc: majordomo-users@greatcircle.com, sendmail-questions@sendmail.org Subject: Re: RH 7.2/Majordomo 1.94.5/Sendmail 8.12.1 Problem In-Reply-To: <200201312332.g0VNWWk8007036@iiwi.lanl.gov> References: <200201312332.g0VNWWk8007036@iiwi.lanl.gov> X-Mailer: VM 7.00 under 21.1 (patch 14) "Cuyahoga Valley" XEmacs Lucid X-Archive-Number: 200202/34 X-Sequence-Number: 244 dneal> VERSIONID(`@(#)mailserver.mc 1.0 (yourdomain.com) 5/1/97') dneal> OSTYPE(linux)dnl dneal> DOMAIN(lanl)dnl dneal> FEATURE(smrsh,/usr/sbin/smrsh)dnl dneal> MAILER(local)dnl dneal> MAILER(smtp)dnl dneal> MAILER(procmail)dnl dneal> define(`PROCMAIL_MAILER_PATH',`/usr/bin/procmail')dnl dneal> define(`LUSER_RELAY',`mail.lanl.gov')dnl dneal> define(`confLOG_LEVEL',12)dnl dneal> define(`SMART_HOST', mail.lanl.gov)dnl dneal> define(`LUSER_RELAY',`mail.lanl.gov')dnl dneal> define(`confDONT_EXPAND_CNAMES',true)dnl The define() lines should be before the FEATURE() lines. See sendmail's cf/README for the proper order of lines. dneal> +++++++++++++++++++++++ Mail Log File Entry +++++++++++++++++++++++++++ dneal> Jan 31 16:10:15 swan sendmail[4216]: g0VNAF60004215: to="|/home/majordomo/wrapper resend -l cnls-seminar-list cnls-seminar_list", ctladdr= (47/0), delay=00:00:00, xdelay=00:00:00, mailer=prog, pri=30013, dsn=5.3.0, stat=unknown mailer error 6 It don't know why majordomo is exiting with '6'. It should be using a sysexit value (from /usr/include/sysexits.h). Some things you can check: 1. You are using smrsh which limits the commands the MTA can run. Is 'wrapper' in the smrsh directory? 2. sendmail will run the command as the default user. If your system has a mailnull account, it will run it as mailnull. If it has a sendmail account, it will run it as sendmail. If it has a daemon account, it will run it as daemon. Finally, if none of the above accounts are found, it runs it as uid 1, gid 1. Does majordomo run correctly as the user that runs it? From majordomo-users-owner@greatcircle.com Mon Feb 4 19:32:52 2002 Received: from host1-9.remarkablehosting.net (host1-9.remarkablehosting.net [208.186.78.9]) by mycroft.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id DD575195AA1 for ; Fri, 1 Feb 2002 06:41:35 -0800 (PST) Received: from cr929299a (CPE0080c6f04539.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com [24.43.103.26]) by host1-9.remarkablehosting.net (8.11.1/8.11.1) with SMTP id g11EfaO16628 for ; Fri, 1 Feb 2002 06:41:37 -0800 Message-ID: <002701c1aa7c$b3313e20$1a672b18@shprd.phub.net.cable.rogers.com> From: "Timothy MAdden" To: Subject: Subject Heading Problems Date: Thu, 31 Jan 2002 09:28:29 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0024_01C1AA39.A476EE40" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 X-Archive-Number: 200202/35 X-Sequence-Number: 245 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0024_01C1AA39.A476EE40 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi, When setting up a mailing list, how can one ensure that the subscription confirmation that is sent back contains a subject heading. 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------=_NextPart_000_0024_01C1AA39.A476EE40-- From majordomo-users-owner@greatcircle.com Tue Feb 5 01:40:08 2002 Received: from hermes.tpiol.com (unknown [194.224.199.215]) by mycroft.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D6BE8195AE3 for ; Tue, 5 Feb 2002 01:40:03 -0800 (PST) Received: from tpidom2.intratpi.com (tpidom2.intratpi.com [194.224.199.29]) by hermes.tpiol.com (8.9.3/ESMTP) with ESMTP id KAA29292 for ; Tue, 5 Feb 2002 10:38:47 +0100 Received: from cerbero ([129.1.204.2]) by tpidom2.intratpi.com (Lotus Domino Release 5.0.6a) with SMTP id 2002020510014863:26049 ; Tue, 5 Feb 2002 10:01:48 +0100 Received: from ([213.98.58.80]) by cerbero; Tue, 05 Feb 2002 10:01:43 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <004d01c1ae23$a0884ca0$183f1e0a@gbp.com> From: "Joaquin Moll" To: References: <01b401c1ad93$1e844ff0$0f05000a@corp.microcraft.se> Subject: Re: Sendmail sending listpostings more than once Date: Tue, 5 Feb 2002 10:00:54 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 X-MIMETrack: Itemize by SMTP Server on TPIDOM2/TPI(Release 5.0.6a |January 17, 2001) at 05/02/2002 10:01:49, Serialize by Router on TPIDOM2/TPI(Release 5.0.6a |January 17, 2001) at 05/02/2002 10:38:42, Serialize complete at 05/02/2002 10:38:42 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" X-Archive-Number: 200202/36 X-Sequence-Number: 246 I had the same problem, I think also is about some killer (but correct) e-mails, but my system administrator guru has proposed the following commands in the config list file. At the moment it works for me. I also had to say that this has occurred to me in other systems. Not only with majordomo. Try it Joaquin Moll jmoll@goodman-bp.com # message_headers [string_array] (undef) # These headers will be appended to the headers of the posted # message. The text is expanded before being used. The following # expansion tokens are defined: $LIST - the name of the current # list, $SENDER - the sender as taken from the from line, $VERSION, # the version of majordomo. message_headers << END X-Mailing-List: $LIST END # taboo_headers [regexp_array] (undef) # If any of the headers matches one of these regexps, then the # message will be bounced for review. taboo_headers << END /^X-Mailing-List: Name of the list$/ END ----- Original Message ----- From: "Marko Kupiainen" To: Sent: Monday, February 04, 2002 4:46 PM Subject: Sendmail sending listpostings more than once > Hi everyone > This is my first posting to this list so Im excited if Im going to get any > answers ;) > > First a listing of software Im using: > > Running RedHat Linux 6.1 kernel 2.2.12-20 (yes its old but Im familiar with > it) > Perl 5.00503-6 > Sendmail 8.9.3-15 > Majordomo 1.94.5 > > > The odd problem: > > We use Majordomo to distribute news to our customers and for that purpose I > have configured 2 lists, lets call them A and B. > Both lists have worked flawless for half a year. > List A consists of about 100 recipients and B (the problemlist) has about > 400 recipients. > List A never buggs me but list B has suddenly started to send mail repeated > times until I delete the queue and stop it. > This hasnt always been the problem but started (I think) when the list grew > to 400 recipients. > Both lists only accepts postings from 2 internal members becouse its sole > purpose is to distribute news from us to our customers. > > I have compared the maillog for list A sending and list B sending and both > gives same logg information but list B does it more than once which is the > problem. Why does Sendmail trying to distribute same mail more than once ? > > Has anybody encountered this problem before ? > I searced Internet for clews but couldnt find anything that matched. > Found a email adress that was bouncing and deleted it but that wasnt the > solution ... > > If anybody has a clue please share it with me ... > If you would like more specified maillogs or other info just say so and I > will gladly comply. > > > regards > Marko Kupiainen > CIO Microcraft AB Sweden > > > > > > From majordomo-users-owner@greatcircle.com Tue Feb 5 09:10:58 2002 Received: from hugin.microcraft.se (hugin.microcraft.se [212.181.0.165]) by mycroft.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B398A1959ED for ; Tue, 5 Feb 2002 09:10:55 -0800 (PST) Received: from mcd0715 (loke.microcraft.se [212.181.0.162]) by hugin.microcraft.se (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id SAA10235 for ; Tue, 5 Feb 2002 18:10:54 +0100 Message-ID: <03ec01c1ae68$1200d200$0f05000a@corp.microcraft.se> Reply-To: "Marko Kupiainen" From: "Marko Kupiainen" To: Subject: Thanx for all help ... Date: Tue, 5 Feb 2002 18:10:54 +0100 Organization: Microcraft AB MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 X-Archive-Number: 200202/37 X-Sequence-Number: 247 I asked for help about why Sendmail seems to post copies of my listmails ... See "Sendmail sending listpostings more than once" 2002-02-04 When I investigated more I found that my posting got sent back from external mailserver looking as it was we that send it, bypassing our post rules. So the mail took another turn through Majordomo and was posted once more to our 400 customers. And then it repeated itself and repeated itself ... welll u get the picture. The solution was to add string to message_header: X--Mailing-List: And to taboo_headers: /^X--Mailing-List: /i That solved the mail loop Thanx to all of u that answered .. that way I knew what to look for And for u that didnt, maybe this reply will help u next time .... regards Marko Kupiainen CIO Microcraft AB Sweden From majordomo-users-owner@greatcircle.com Tue Feb 5 13:03:24 2002 Received: from GTA-EXC-01.gta.com (unknown [167.192.88.30]) by mycroft.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 32A38195ABD for ; Tue, 5 Feb 2002 13:03:21 -0800 (PST) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.0.4712.0 content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: mail message formatting Date: Tue, 5 Feb 2002 16:03:18 -0500 Message-ID: <41156E93AF544C4F8A8859672DFF3A7C779AEE@GTA-EXC-01.gta.com> X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: mail message formatting Thread-Index: AcGuiIw9gDUFkBoSEda8eQCw0EOe5g== From: "Rhett Huber" To: X-Archive-Number: 200202/38 X-Sequence-Number: 248 Hi folks.=20 We're getting some arbitrary formatting in the message section of the emails going to the lists. Perhaps that will even work here, to give you some idea. The word wraps are arbitrary, some lines of text break right in the middle. Anyone had any experience with this one and its resolution? Thanks, Rhett Huber Georgia Technology Authority From majordomo-users-owner@greatcircle.com Wed Feb 6 00:21:06 2002 Received: from www.blakout.net (unknown [62.16.36.42]) by mycroft.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3663B195B77 for ; Wed, 6 Feb 2002 00:20:19 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (80-235-32-207-dsl.lsn.estpak.ee [80.235.32.207]) by www.blakout.net (8.11.2/8.11.2) with SMTP id g168IDS13767 for ; Wed, 6 Feb 2002 09:18:28 +0100 Received: by localhost with Microsoft MAPI; Wed, 6 Feb 2002 10:19:46 +0200 Message-ID: <01C1AEF7.CD41A0F0.roman@blakout.net> From: "Roman @ Melihhov" To: "'majordomo-users@GreatCircle. COM'" Subject: command digest-outgoing not found... Date: Wed, 6 Feb 2002 10:19:45 +0200 X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet E-mail/MAPI - 8.0.0.4211 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Archive-Number: 200202/39 X-Sequence-Number: 249 Digest vs MJ 1.94.5 again... Digest.semnd shell script to generate digests produces following message Producing sample-digest v4 #156 ... 001 ... 002 other messages from digest scratch directory, and then sh: sample-digest-outgoing command not found... ?! what the hell's wrong with it. Digest has never been such a hassle before. Roman. :( From majordomo-users-owner@greatcircle.com Wed Feb 6 04:46:20 2002 Received: from www.blakout.net (unknown [62.16.36.42]) by mycroft.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9FD531959E2 for ; Wed, 6 Feb 2002 04:46:17 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (80-235-33-1-dsl.lsn.estpak.ee [80.235.33.1]) by www.blakout.net (8.11.2/8.11.2) with SMTP id g16CiEs16765 for ; Wed, 6 Feb 2002 13:44:29 +0100 Received: by localhost with Microsoft MAPI; Wed, 6 Feb 2002 14:45:45 +0200 Message-ID: <01C1AF1C.F5485D30.roman@blakout.net> From: "Roman @ Melihhov" To: "'majordomo-users@GreatCircle. COM'" Subject: mj_digest: Recipient names must be specified Date: Wed, 6 Feb 2002 14:45:44 +0200 Importance: high X-Priority: 1 (Highest) X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet E-mail/MAPI - 8.0.0.4211 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Archive-Number: 200202/40 X-Sequence-Number: 250 /usr/lib/majordomo/Tools/digest.send sample-digest .. producing SAMPLE-DIGEST V4 #159 processing /var/lib/majordomo/digest/sample-digest/001 Recipient names must be specified I'm trying to make digest with standard procedure and digest.send contains following lines that actually make digest DIGESTDIR=/usr/local/majordomo/Digests cd $DIGESTDIR for i in * do if [ -f $i/001 ]; then /usr/lib/majordomo/wrapper digest -m -C -l $i ${i}-outgoing fi done --- http://www.blakout.net/ "The more I try to express myself, often the less I'm understood" - self quote From majordomo-users-owner@greatcircle.com Wed Feb 6 06:14:54 2002 Received: from dc-pdc-86.home.danish-company.com (secmail.danish-company.net [212.130.77.7]) by mycroft.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id F2F691959E2 for ; Wed, 6 Feb 2002 06:14:51 -0800 (PST) Received: by dc-pdc-86.home.danish-company.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id <1JBQ3Y1C>; Wed, 6 Feb 2002 15:14:44 +0100 Message-ID: <1EE9966824C2D411800D0010B5408393154261@dc-pdc-86.home.danish-company.com> From: Thomas Hanson To: "''majordomo-users@greatcircle.com' '" Subject: How to get majordomo to accept messages from other mail aliases ? Date: Wed, 6 Feb 2002 15:14:43 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" X-Archive-Number: 200202/41 X-Sequence-Number: 251 Hi again. Our mail server has a number of users and if one of them is added to the members list of a maillist, his aliases do not work. example : Mailing list : netudvalget members : r58 only members can send to list Now r58 has som mail aliases (taken from the /etc/mail/aliases file) : r58: r58 klon: r58 If his reply address is r58@domain.com the message sent to the list goes through. But if his reply address is klon@domain.com I get this message: BOUNCE netudvalget@domain.com.: Non-member submission from ["Thomas Hanson" ] How can I get majordomo to se the rest of his mail aliases (and for that sake everyone elses aliases that are in the aliases file). If it where just a couple of people I would add the extra aliases myself. But we are talking about 600 users with each at least 2 mail aliases. Thanks Thomas From majordomo-users-owner@greatcircle.com Wed Feb 6 08:17:15 2002 Received: from smtp-1.llnl.gov (smtp-1.llnl.gov [128.115.250.81]) by mycroft.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7F0C51959E2 for ; Wed, 6 Feb 2002 08:17:13 -0800 (PST) Received: from tickleme.llnl.gov (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by smtp-1.llnl.gov (8.9.3/8.9.3/LLNL-gateway-1.0) with ESMTP id IAA14005 for ; Wed, 6 Feb 2002 08:17:13 -0800 (PST) Received: (from deb@localhost) by tickleme.llnl.gov (8.9.3/8.9.3/LLNL-4.0 Alpha 1) id IAA08309 for majordomo-users@greatcircle.com; Wed, 6 Feb 2002 08:17:12 -0800 (PST) From: Deb Heller-Evans Message-Id: <200202061617.IAA08309@tickleme.llnl.gov> Subject: restrict by domain To: majordomo-users@greatcircle.com Date: Wed, 6 Feb 2002 08:17:12 -0800 (PST) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.5 PL5] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Archive-Number: 200202/42 X-Sequence-Number: 252 I know that MJ2 has the facility to restrict subscribers to those of only some defined domain, but does Majordomo 1.9x have this facility as well? It doesn't seem obvious. TIA, d From majordomo-users-owner@greatcircle.com Wed Feb 6 08:25:38 2002 Received: from mx04.gvl.sys.nuvox.net (mx04.gvl.sys.nuvox.net [64.89.70.86]) by mycroft.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A6AED195ABA for ; Wed, 6 Feb 2002 08:25:35 -0800 (PST) Received: from 123 (216.215.225.189.nw.nuvox.net [216.215.225.189]) by mx04.gvl.sys.nuvox.net (8.11.4/8.11.4) with SMTP id g16GPYt32323 for ; Wed, 6 Feb 2002 11:25:34 -0500 Message-ID: <02ac01c1af2b$472bec80$af646464@123.com> From: "xMaillist" To: References: <200202061617.IAA08309@tickleme.llnl.gov> Subject: HTML Question Date: Wed, 6 Feb 2002 11:28:15 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 X-Archive-Number: 200202/43 X-Sequence-Number: 253 I'm fairly new to Majordomo and running version 1.88 it says. I've got it all setup and working, just need some small help on 2 issues. My question is simple I hope, when an email message come in with HTML, it does not include the Footer when it resends it back out. Is there a way around this or is there a way to tell Majordomo to strip any HTML code out and resend the message to the group. Question 2: Is there a way to have Majordomo block any emails with attatchments? Thank You, NB From majordomo-users-owner@greatcircle.com Wed Feb 6 09:21:04 2002 Received: from xrx-inc.com (mail.xrx-inc.com [12.13.116.226]) by mycroft.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 918DB195AD7 for ; Wed, 6 Feb 2002 09:21:02 -0800 (PST) Received: (from timothy@localhost) by xrx-inc.com (8.11.1/8.11.1) id g16HMrE51333; Wed, 6 Feb 2002 11:22:53 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from timothy) Date: Wed, 6 Feb 2002 11:22:53 -0600 (CST) From: "Dr. Tim" Message-Id: <200202061722.g16HMrE51333@xrx-inc.com> To: maillist@brunerhaus.com, majordomo-users@greatcircle.com Subject: Re: HTML Question In-Reply-To: <02ac01c1af2b$472bec80$af646464@123.com> X-Archive-Number: 200202/44 X-Sequence-Number: 254 How funny, these two issues I have dealt with explicitly as of late. 1.) there is a patch called html stripper that stipps html from the message, it patches versino 1.94.5 for sure as to 1.88 I don't know. one good link ftp://sol.ccsf.cc.ca.us/majordomo-patches/1.94.5/ it contains various patches, and the one I used initially is html-stripper-v0.1 and it was nice then 2.) came the party virus that read and searched for any address not just the address book and we started receiving for the first time in 5 years attachments to our mailing list so along come demime. http://scifi.squawk.com/demime.html this works well. and takes care of a lot more issues. Tim From majordomo-users-owner@greatcircle.com Wed Feb 6 09:34:18 2002 Received: from smtp-1.llnl.gov (smtp-1.llnl.gov [128.115.250.81]) by mycroft.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 819B0195AB1 for ; Wed, 6 Feb 2002 09:34:17 -0800 (PST) Received: from tickleme.llnl.gov (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by smtp-1.llnl.gov (8.9.3/8.9.3/LLNL-gateway-1.0) with ESMTP id JAA25652; Wed, 6 Feb 2002 09:34:16 -0800 (PST) Received: (from deb@localhost) by tickleme.llnl.gov (8.9.3/8.9.3/LLNL-4.0 Alpha 1) id JAA08594; Wed, 6 Feb 2002 09:34:16 -0800 (PST) From: Deb Heller-Evans Message-Id: <200202061734.JAA08594@tickleme.llnl.gov> Subject: Re: HTML Question To: maillist@brunerhaus.com (xMaillist) Date: Wed, 6 Feb 2002 09:34:16 -0800 (PST) Cc: majordomo-users@greatcircle.com In-Reply-To: from "xMaillist" at Feb 06, 2002 11:28:15 AM X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.5 PL5] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Archive-Number: 200202/45 X-Sequence-Number: 255 Meanwhile, xMaillist says: | | I'm fairly new to Majordomo and running version 1.88 it says. I've got it | all setup and working, just need some small help on 2 issues. That's pretty old. Prolly buggy too. You might consider getting the last available version for 1.x, 1.94.5. | My question is simple I hope, when an email message come in with HTML, it | does not include the Footer when it resends it back out. Is there a way | around this or is there a way to tell Majordomo to strip any HTML code out | and resend the message to the group. | | Question 2: Is there a way to have Majordomo block any emails with | attatchments? Well, you could config all your lists ( list_name.cfg) to not accept messages over a certain size. I believe it's the maxlength parameter is list_name.cfg. d From majordomo-users-owner@greatcircle.com Wed Feb 6 15:39:08 2002 Received: from cotse.com (members.cotse.com [216.112.42.58]) by mycroft.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 732C2195B16 for ; Wed, 6 Feb 2002 15:39:04 -0800 (PST) Received: from www.cotse.net (www.cotse.net [216.112.42.60]) by cotse.com (5.7.4/5.7.4) with ESMTP id g16NbEC03899 for ; Wed, 6 Feb 2002 18:37:14 -0500 (EST) From: penelope@cotse.net Received: (from nobody@localhost) by www.cotse.net (8.11.6/8.11.3) id g16Nl3J28463; Wed, 6 Feb 2002 18:47:03 -0500 (EST) Received: from Cotse Members Webmail (authenticated user penelope) by www.cotse.net with HTTP; Wed, 6 Feb 2002 18:47:03 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: Date: Wed, 6 Feb 2002 18:47:03 -0500 (EST) X-Abuse-To: abuse@cotse.com X-AntiForge: http://packetderm.cotse.com/antiforge.php Subject: understanding this BOUNCE message To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Archive-Number: 200202/46 X-Sequence-Number: 256 I have been tasked with analyzing majordomo problems a user encountered moving his lists from a Solaris 2.5.1, Sendmail 8.8 system to a Solaris 8, Sendmail 8.9.3 system. The user is pretty certain that the sendmail.cf needs to be further modifed while I do not share his certainty. When I send a "who" request to his test list (test70-request), it fails with the infamous "unknown mailer error 2" message, and here is the BOUNCE message: From: test70-owner@fnmoc.navy.mil [mailto:test70-owner@fnmoc.navy.mil] Sent: Wednesday, February 06, 2002 2:28 PM To: test70-approval@fnmoc.navy.mil Subject: BOUNCE test70@fnmoc.navy.mil: Admin request of type /^\s*who\s*$/i at line 1 .... I have read a couple of generations of FAQs, and I am leaning towards a wrapper problem. Majordomo 1.94.5, compiled with gcc Perl 5.004 Solaris 8 Sendmail 8.9.3 entry from /etc/alias: test70-request: "|/home/maj_domo/wrapper request-answer test70" listing of perl files: lrwxrwxrwx 1 root other 11 Jan 15 00:44 /usr/local/bin/perl - > ./perl5.004 -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 754300 Oct 7 1997 /usr/local/bin/perl5.004 lrwxrwxrwx 1 root other 18 Jan 18 2001 /usr/local/bin/perl5.6.0 -> /opt/perl/bin/perl -rwxr-xr-x 1 root other 71516 Jan 2 21:18 /usr/local/bin/perl5.6.1 I had nothing to do with the installation of majordomo on this system. I have merely been called upon to sort through the debris. Pardon me for a lack of knowledge on majordomo, and please let me know if I can furnish further information that will be of assistance. Thanks. From majordomo-users-owner@greatcircle.com Wed Feb 6 17:27:46 2002 Received: from mail.bcpl.net (mail.bcpl.net [204.255.212.10]) by mycroft.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8F52D195B66 for ; Wed, 6 Feb 2002 17:27:43 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (fold@localhost) by mail.bcpl.net (8.11.3/8.11.3) with ESMTP id g171Rcf05283 for ; Wed, 6 Feb 2002 20:27:39 -0500 (EST) Date: Wed, 6 Feb 2002 20:27:38 -0500 (EST) From: Chip Old X-X-Sender: To: MAJORDOMO-USERS Subject: Re: understanding this BOUNCE message In-Reply-To: Message-ID: X-Organization: BCPL.NET Internet Services X-Abuse-Reports: abuse@bcpl.net MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Archive-Number: 200202/47 X-Sequence-Number: 257 On Wed, 6 Feb 2002 penelope@cotse.net wrote: > [snip] > When I send a "who" request to his test list (test70-request), it > fails with the infamous "unknown mailer error 2" message, and here is > the BOUNCE message: Assuming "test70-request" is the list name, you should be sending "who test70-request" to majordomo@wherever.net. > From: test70-owner@fnmoc.navy.mil [mailto:test70-owner@fnmoc.navy.mil] > Sent: Wednesday, February 06, 2002 2:28 PM > To: test70-approval@fnmoc.navy.mil > > Subject: BOUNCE test70@fnmoc.navy.mil: Admin request of type > /^\s*who\s*$/i at line 1 You sent your "who" command to the list address instead of to Majordomo. The "Administrivia" filter trapped the "who" in line one of the message, recognized it as a possible attempt to send a Majordomo command to the list address, and bounced the message to the list owner. Administrivia checking can be turned off in the list.config if you want to. Look for the section that looks like this... # administrivia [bool] (yes) # Look for administrative requests (e.g. subscribe/unsubscribe) and # forward them to the list maintainer instead of the list. administrivia = yes ...and change the "yes" to "know". That will stop the administrivia bounces, but your "who" command still won't work as you were doing it. Send "who " to the majordomo address, not to thew list address. -- Chip Old (Francis E. Old) E-Mail: fold@bcpl.net Manager, BCPL Network Services Phone: 410-887-6180 Manager, BCPL.NET Internet Services FAX: 410-887-2091 320 York Road Towson, MD 21204 USA From majordomo-users-owner@greatcircle.com Wed Feb 6 17:56:05 2002 Received: from mail.bcpl.net (mail.bcpl.net [204.255.212.10]) by mycroft.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 90732195B6B for ; Wed, 6 Feb 2002 17:56:04 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (fold@localhost) by mail.bcpl.net (8.11.3/8.11.3) with ESMTP id g171u3r15316 for ; Wed, 6 Feb 2002 20:56:03 -0500 (EST) Date: Wed, 6 Feb 2002 20:56:03 -0500 (EST) From: Chip Old X-X-Sender: To: MAJORDOMO-USERS Subject: Re: understanding this BOUNCE message In-Reply-To: Message-ID: X-Organization: BCPL.NET Internet Services X-Abuse-Reports: abuse@bcpl.net MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Archive-Number: 200202/48 X-Sequence-Number: 258 On Wed, 6 Feb 2002, Chip Old wrote: > [snip] > administrivia = yes > > ...and change the "yes" to "know". That will stop the administrivia > bounces, but your "who" command still won't work as you were doing it. > Send "who " to the majordomo address, not to thew list address. Groan! Obviously that should be "no", not "know". My typing finger (singular intended) was moving faster than my spell checker. -- Chip Old (Francis E. Old) E-Mail: fold@bcpl.net Manager, BCPL Network Services Phone: 410-887-6180 Manager, BCPL.NET Internet Services FAX: 410-887-2091 320 York Road Towson, MD 21204 USA From majordomo-users-owner@greatcircle.com Thu Feb 7 07:39:20 2002 Received: from one.exelana.com (adsl-66-124-148-242.dsl.sntc01.pacbell.net [66.124.148.242]) by mycroft.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id DAC4A1959E6 for ; Thu, 7 Feb 2002 07:39:19 -0800 (PST) Received: from TP600-16 (c-10-0-0-16.gwclients.exelana.com [10.0.0.16]) by one.exelana.com (Postfix) with SMTP id 5D2A21959FE for ; Thu, 7 Feb 2002 07:39:19 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <015101c1afed$8eeea900$1000000a@TP600-16.exelana.com> From: "Tony Lewis" To: Subject: Re: understanding this BOUNCE message Date: Thu, 7 Feb 2002 07:38:58 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.2106.4 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 X-Archive-Number: 200202/49 X-Sequence-Number: 259 On Wed, 6 Feb 2002, Chip Old wrote: > [snip] > administrivia = yes > > ...and change the "yes" to "know". That will stop the administrivia > bounces, but your "who" command still won't work as you were doing it. > Send "who " to the majordomo address, not to thew list address. > I decided to change all my lists to administrivia = "know" when a user sent a message of the form "I think we should cancel the meeting on the 27th", which got bounced by the administrivia check. Tony From majordomo-users-owner@greatcircle.com Thu Feb 7 14:14:29 2002 Received: from mail.insaro.org (unknown [66.34.186.1]) by mycroft.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 58CC51959E0 for ; Thu, 7 Feb 2002 14:14:27 -0800 (PST) Received: from boris [148.233.183.12] by mail.insaro.org with ESMTP (SMTPD32-7.05) id AC662640070; Thu, 07 Feb 2002 16:15:02 -0600 Message-ID: <09bb01c1b024$b4941780$6bb7e994@boris> Reply-To: "Garrison St.Clair" From: "Garrison St.Clair" To: Subject: Strip attachments? Date: Thu, 7 Feb 2002 16:13:31 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 X-Archive-Number: 200202/50 X-Sequence-Number: 260 Is it possible to set Majordomo to strip attached files before sending? Thanks. From majordomo-users-owner@greatcircle.com Thu Feb 7 14:30:20 2002 Received: from esson.net (esson.net [216.102.129.43]) by mycroft.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9DC8E1959E1 for ; Thu, 7 Feb 2002 14:30:18 -0800 (PST) Received: from ekasky.wrenkasky.com (ekasky.usc.edu [128.125.63.168]) by esson.net (8.12.1/8.12.1) with ESMTP id g17MUHx0006415; Thu, 7 Feb 2002 14:30:17 -0800 Message-Id: <4.3.2.7.2.20020207142701.00b30460@mail.esson.net> X-Sender: ed@mail.esson.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 4.3.2 Date: Thu, 07 Feb 2002 14:29:31 -0800 To: "Garrison St.Clair" From: Ed Kasky Subject: Re: Strip attachments? Cc: In-Reply-To: <09bb01c1b024$b4941780$6bb7e994@boris> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed X-Archive-Number: 200202/51 X-Sequence-Number: 261 Read up on demime. I have found it very useful in not only stripping attachments but stripping html formatting and isp sigs. Can be a tad difficult to configure sometimes but there's been lenthy discussions on this list that you can retrieve from the archives... http://scifi.squawk.com/demime.html At 04:13 PM Thursday, 2/7/2002, you wrote -=> >Is it possible to set Majordomo to strip attached files before sending? > >Thanks. Ed Kasky Los Angeles, CA . . . . . . . . When we are unable to find tranquility within ourselves, it is useless to seek it elsewhere. -Francois de La Rochefoucauld From majordomo-users-owner@greatcircle.com Thu Feb 7 15:01:27 2002 Received: from mx01-a.netapp.com (mx01-a.netapp.com [198.95.226.53]) by mycroft.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A70A01959E1 for ; Thu, 7 Feb 2002 15:01:26 -0800 (PST) Received: from hawk.corp.netapp.com (hawk [10.10.20.101]) by mx01-a.netapp.com (8.11.1/8.11.1/NTAP-1.2) with ESMTP id g17N1P301889; Thu, 7 Feb 2002 15:01:25 -0800 (PST) Received: from ussvlexc06.corp.netapp.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hawk.corp.netapp.com (8.12.0/8.12.0/NTAP-1.3) with ESMTP id g17N1PUI004420; Thu, 7 Feb 2002 15:01:25 -0800 (PST) Received: by ussvlexc06.corp.netapp.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id ; Thu, 7 Feb 2002 15:01:24 -0800 Message-ID: <02740A3D0809D5118C7C00034707E9F3013EE76E@ussvlexc10.corp.netapp.com> From: "Mohler, Jeff" To: "'Garrison St.Clair'" , Majordomo-Users@greatcircle.com Subject: Re: Strip attachments? Date: Thu, 7 Feb 2002 14:52:13 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" X-Archive-Number: 200202/52 X-Sequence-Number: 262 Didnt demime -just- come up in here a couple days ago? -----Original Message----- From: Garrison St.Clair [mailto:gunslinger@insaro.org] Sent: Thursday, February 07, 2002 2:14 PM To: Majordomo-Users@greatcircle.com Subject: Strip attachments? Is it possible to set Majordomo to strip attached files before sending? Thanks. From majordomo-users-owner@greatcircle.com Thu Feb 7 19:48:35 2002 Received: from mtiwmhc22.worldnet.att.net (mtiwmhc22.worldnet.att.net [204.127.131.47]) by mycroft.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8D1EC195AA0 for ; Thu, 7 Feb 2002 19:48:34 -0800 (PST) Received: from att.net ([12.81.131.26]) by mtiwmhc22.worldnet.att.net (InterMail vM.4.01.03.27 201-229-121-127-20010626) with ESMTP id <20020208034832.RMUO21579.mtiwmhc22.worldnet.att.net@att.net> for ; Fri, 8 Feb 2002 03:48:32 +0000 Message-ID: <3C634A91.96687DDB@att.net> Date: Thu, 07 Feb 2002 19:48:33 -0800 From: Jay O'Brien X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: majordomo-users Subject: Re: Strip attachments? References: <4.3.2.7.2.20020207142701.00b30460@mail.esson.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Archive-Number: 200202/53 X-Sequence-Number: 263 Ed, I agree. I am administering the demime_junkmail.cf file for my server owner, and I can't figure out the "center_match" concept. I've tried the demime mailing list to no avail; I just can't ssem to come up to speed with them. Can you offer any help on center_match? I think it would be useful, but I don't understand. Jay O'Brien Ed Kasky wrote: > > Read up on demime. I have found it very useful in not only stripping > attachments but stripping html formatting and isp sigs. Can be a tad > difficult to configure sometimes but there's been lenthy discussions on > this list that you can retrieve from the archives... > From majordomo-users-owner@greatcircle.com Fri Feb 8 00:54:22 2002 Received: from imo-d09.mx.aol.com (imo-d09.mx.aol.com [205.188.157.41]) by mycroft.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4D7A51959E0 for ; Fri, 8 Feb 2002 00:54:17 -0800 (PST) Received: from Postfixuser@aol.com by imo-d09.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v31_r1.26.) id o.28.21d9f49a (4331) for ; Fri, 8 Feb 2002 03:54:12 -0500 (EST) From: Postfixuser@aol.com Message-ID: <28.21d9f49a.2994ec34@aol.com> Date: Fri, 8 Feb 2002 03:54:12 EST Subject: how can i disable results messages To: majordomo-users@greatcircle.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_28.21d9f49a.2994ec34_boundary" X-Mailer: AOL 6.0 for Windows DE sub 10510 X-Archive-Number: 200202/54 X-Sequence-Number: 264 --part1_28.21d9f49a.2994ec34_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit hello, i want disable the welcome and leaving messages for some lists, how can i do that ??? thanks markus --part1_28.21d9f49a.2994ec34_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit hello,
i want disable the welcome and leaving messages for some lists, how can i do that ???

thanks markus --part1_28.21d9f49a.2994ec34_boundary-- From majordomo-users-owner@greatcircle.com Fri Feb 8 09:29:15 2002 Received: from penguin.postmodern.com (penguin.postmodern.com [216.240.39.2]) by mycroft.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9ED32195AAE for ; Fri, 8 Feb 2002 09:29:13 -0800 (PST) Received: from esson.net ([216.102.129.43]) by penguin.postmodern.com (8.11.1/8.11.1-mcb-20001119) with ESMTP id g18HAq010584 for ; Fri, 8 Feb 2002 09:10:52 -0800 Received: from ekasky.wrenkasky.com (ekasky.usc.edu [128.125.63.168]) by esson.net (8.12.1/8.12.1) with ESMTP id g18H8ix0015124; Fri, 8 Feb 2002 09:08:45 -0800 Message-Id: <4.3.2.7.2.20020208085844.00b1c4b8@mail.esson.net> X-Sender: ed@mail.esson.net (Unverified) X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 4.3.2 Date: Fri, 08 Feb 2002 09:09:19 -0800 To: "Jay O'Brien" From: Ed Kasky Subject: Re: Strip attachments? Cc: Majordomo-users@greatcircle.com In-Reply-To: <3C634A91.96687DDB@att.net> References: <4.3.2.7.2.20020207142701.00b30460@mail.esson.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed X-Archive-Number: 200202/55 X-Sequence-Number: 265 This is one I put in for a poster with a long sig block. the prefix and suffix match the start and end of the block. The two lines under the center heading contain some key words from the middle of the block. You'll have to get someone with more perl knowledge to explain exactly how the expressions work. I just copied what was already in the file.... # [prefix_match_quote] /\Q--------------------------------------------------------\E/ [center_match_quote] /(?i)quote/ /(?i)all there is/ [suffix_match_quote] /\Q--------------------------------------------------------\E/ # Ed At 07:48 PM Thursday, 2/7/2002, you wrote -=> >Ed, > >I agree. I am administering the demime_junkmail.cf file for my server >owner, and I can't figure out the "center_match" concept. I've tried >the demime mailing list to no avail; I just can't ssem to come up to >speed with them. Can you offer any help on center_match? I think it >would be useful, but I don't understand. > >Jay O'Brien > > > >Ed Kasky wrote: > > > > Read up on demime. I have found it very useful in not only stripping > > attachments but stripping html formatting and isp sigs. Can be a tad > > difficult to configure sometimes but there's been lenthy discussions on > > this list that you can retrieve from the archives... > > From majordomo-users-owner@greatcircle.com Fri Feb 8 09:33:56 2002 Received: from penguin.postmodern.com (penguin.postmodern.com [216.240.39.2]) by mycroft.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 07BC0195ADF for ; Fri, 8 Feb 2002 09:33:55 -0800 (PST) Received: from www.blakout.net ([62.16.36.42]) by penguin.postmodern.com (8.11.1/8.11.1-mcb-20001119) with ESMTP id g18ESu009178 for ; Fri, 8 Feb 2002 06:28:57 -0800 Received: from localhost (80-235-33-171-dsl.lsn.estpak.ee [80.235.33.171]) by www.blakout.net (8.11.2/8.11.2) with SMTP id g18EOdR12661 for ; Fri, 8 Feb 2002 15:24:58 +0100 Received: by localhost with Microsoft MAPI; Fri, 8 Feb 2002 16:26:19 +0200 Message-ID: <01C1B0BD.56C28260.roman@blakout.net> From: "Roman @ Melihhov" To: "'majordomo-users@GreatCircle. COM'" Subject: digest 1.94.5: problem solved Date: Fri, 8 Feb 2002 16:26:18 +0200 X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet E-mail/MAPI - 8.0.0.4211 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Archive-Number: 200202/56 X-Sequence-Number: 266 In regards to all my previous messages about awkward behavior of digest it has been caused by digest.send shell script that called digest as /usr/lib/majordomo/wrapper digest -m -C -l $i ${i}-outgoing where $I was digest name command line value. For a reason I don't quite understand line 293 in digest $mailcmd = eval qq/"$mailer"/; misbehaved when digest spawned from within shell script returning incorrect path to sendmail and causing digest failure producing Blakout Family Digest V4 #171 processing /var/lib/majordomo/digest/family-digest/001 Recipient names must be specified In addition, I run majordomo on RH Linux 7.1 with sendmail 8.11.2 Perl 5.6.0 built with GCC. I hope this could help you understand what's been going on and update FAQ accordingly, so that people in similar corners could find solution. And solution is to generate digest either by email mkdigest command or from cron. Roman. From majordomo-users-owner@greatcircle.com Fri Feb 8 10:00:17 2002 Received: from mtiwmhc21.worldnet.att.net (mtiwmhc21.worldnet.att.net [204.127.131.46]) by mycroft.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id EB24C195AA0 for ; Fri, 8 Feb 2002 10:00:15 -0800 (PST) Received: from att.net ([12.81.125.35]) by mtiwmhc21.worldnet.att.net (InterMail vM.4.01.03.27 201-229-121-127-20010626) with ESMTP id <20020208180013.BXBN8963.mtiwmhc21.worldnet.att.net@att.net>; Fri, 8 Feb 2002 18:00:13 +0000 Message-ID: <3C64122E.C2C9CC9@att.net> Date: Fri, 08 Feb 2002 10:00:14 -0800 From: Jay O'Brien X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Ed Kasky Cc: majordomo-users Subject: demime use: center_match Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Archive-Number: 200202/57 X-Sequence-Number: 267 Ed, Do I understand correctly, then, that center_match refers to lines in the center of a block of text to be removed? And, IF there is a center match line, it and all others between the prefix_match line and the ending suffix_match line get removed? Also, do I understand correctly that the text in the center_match argument need not be the complete line? Thanks for redirecting my thoughts on this. I thought center_match meant "found in the center of a line" but I see now, thanks to you, that it means "found in a line in the middle of a block of text to be removed" Also, in the example you give below, the prefix_match and the suffix_match are identical. Is that just because it is an example, or do you acutally have such duplication in your file? Thanks for your response. I've found the prefix_match and suffix_ match concept easy to follow and it works fine for me. The center_match just didn't click, however! Now that I have the idea, I'll build some examples and test them. Jay O'Brien -------- Original Message -------- Subject: Re: Strip attachments? Date: Fri, 08 Feb 2002 09:09:19 -0800 From: Ed Kasky To: "Jay O'Brien" CC: Majordomo-users@greatcircle.com This is one I put in for a poster with a long sig block. the prefix and suffix match the start and end of the block. The two lines under the center heading contain some key words from the middle of the block. You'll have to get someone with more perl knowledge to explain exactly how the expressions work. I just copied what was already in the file.... # [prefix_match_quote] /\Q--------------------------------------------------------\E/ [center_match_quote] /(?i)quote/ /(?i)all there is/ [suffix_match_quote] /\Q--------------------------------------------------------\E/ # Ed At 07:48 PM Thursday, 2/7/2002, you wrote -=> >Ed, > >I agree. I am administering the demime_junkmail.cf file for my server >owner, and I can't figure out the "center_match" concept. I've tried >the demime mailing list to no avail; I just can't ssem to come up to >speed with them. Can you offer any help on center_match? I think it >would be useful, but I don't understand. > >Jay O'Brien > > > >Ed Kasky wrote: > > > > Read up on demime. I have found it very useful in not only stripping > > attachments but stripping html formatting and isp sigs. Can be a tad > > difficult to configure sometimes but there's been lenthy discussions on > > this list that you can retrieve from the archives... > > From majordomo-users-owner@greatcircle.com Sun Feb 10 10:04:56 2002 Received: from arm.mrball.net (mrball.net [209.85.130.137]) by mycroft.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id CC781195AE5 for ; Sun, 10 Feb 2002 10:04:53 -0800 (PST) Received: from todd.mrball.net (todd.mrball.net [192.168.18.3]) by arm.mrball.net (8.11.2/8.11.2) with ESMTP id g1AI4oY02681 for ; Sun, 10 Feb 2002 10:04:50 -0800 Received: (from todd@localhost) by todd.mrball.net (8.12.0.Beta7/8.12.0.Beta7) id g1AI4kdn032676 for majordomo-users@greatcircle.com; Sun, 10 Feb 2002 10:04:46 -0800 Date: Sun, 10 Feb 2002 10:04:46 -0800 From: Todd Lyons To: "''majordomo-users@greatcircle.com' '" Subject: Re: How to get majordomo to accept messages from other mail aliases ? Message-ID: <20020210100446.B32513@mrball.net> Mail-Followup-To: "''majordomo-users@greatcircle.com' '" References: <1EE9966824C2D411800D0010B5408393154261@dc-pdc-86.home.danish-company.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <1EE9966824C2D411800D0010B5408393154261@dc-pdc-86.home.danish-company.com>; from thh@Danish-Company.com on Wed, Feb 06, 2002 at 03:14:43PM +0100 X-Archive-Number: 200202/58 X-Sequence-Number: 268 Thomas Hanson wanted us to know: >Now r58 has som mail aliases (taken from the /etc/mail/aliases file) : >r58: r58 >klon: r58 >If his reply address is r58@domain.com the message sent to the list goes >through. But if his reply address is klon@domain.com I get this message: Not possible. MJ doesn't read your smtp server's mail aliases. It just looks at the email address and klon != r58. It will either take some custom coding on your part, or tell them to set their from address. -- Blue skies... Todd | Get a bigger hammer! | Security is like an onion. It's made | | http://www.mrball.net | up of several layers and makes you cry. | | http://faq.mrball.net | --Howard Chu | From majordomo-users-owner@greatcircle.com Sun Feb 10 11:46:01 2002 Received: from inet-prime.comshare.com (unknown [130.211.1.75]) by mycroft.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A93E8195AE9 for ; Sun, 10 Feb 2002 11:45:58 -0800 (PST) Received: from aa-es6.comshare.com ([130.211.1.216]) by inet-prime.comshare.com (8.12.2/8.12.2) with ESMTP id g1AJcN9a019788 for ; Sun, 10 Feb 2002 14:38:23 -0500 Received: from aa-es5.comshare.com ([130.211.1.213]) by aa-es6.comshare.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.3779); Sun, 10 Feb 2002 14:45:57 -0500 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.0.4712.0 content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Disposition-Notification-To: "Matt A. Gargett" Subject: Majordomo 1.94.5 and Sendmail 8.12.2 Date: Sun, 10 Feb 2002 14:45:57 -0500 Message-ID: <30DD20CF1CE7C7438CD34E6187A0ABBDD7D9F3@AA-ES5.comshare.com> X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: Majordomo 1.94.5 and Sendmail 8.12.2 Thread-Index: AcGya47THE3bRmVXRz21dTDxOB1/7Q== From: "Matt A. Gargett" To: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 10 Feb 2002 19:45:57.0839 (UTC) FILETIME=[8F4B0DF0:01C1B26B] X-Archive-Number: 200202/59 X-Sequence-Number: 269 I'm having problems getting majordomo to work with the newest version of Sendmail. Since it uses non-root people to send mail now, I get this error in my logs: Feb 10 08:26:50 inet-prime sendmail[13106]: NOQUEUE: SYSERR(majordomo): can not write to queue directory /var/spool/clientmqueue/ (R unAsGid=3D0, required=3D25): Permission denied I've tried modifying the Makefile for majordomo with little luck. Any idea how to make this disappear? Does this have to do with the submit.cf in Sendmail 8.12.x? - Matt A. Gargett IT Support From majordomo-users-owner@greatcircle.com Mon Feb 11 02:44:33 2002 Received: from delphi.aub.auc.dk (delphi.aub.auc.dk [130.225.53.13]) by mycroft.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E83841959F1 for ; Mon, 11 Feb 2002 02:44:26 -0800 (PST) Received: by delphi.aub.auc.dk with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) id ; Mon, 11 Feb 2002 11:44:24 +0100 Message-ID: <0F0A1328A705D111858F00805F15FAD8D40C27@delphi.aub.auc.dk> From: Anders Hertz To: "'majordomo-users@greatcircle.com'" Subject: International Characters in intro and info Date: Mon, 11 Feb 2002 11:44:23 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Archive-Number: 200202/60 X-Sequence-Number: 270 Hiya I=B4ve got a problem when using danish characters in the info and/or intro text I issue the newintro: newintro joketoday - =C6=D8=C5 =E6=F8=E5 Does this work - EOF and when I issue a intro command to look at it, it looks like this: >>>> intro joketoday [Last updated on: Mon Feb 11 11:40:02 2002] - =3DC6=3DD8=3DC5 =3DE6=3DF8=3DE5 Does this work - >>>> Is this a mailer problem or the usual problem between windows and unix ? Or can I define what character set/code Majordomo has to use ?=20 I=B4m using Exim on Solaris as sendmail program.=20 Outlook 2000/Win2000 as mailclient. /Anders, Denmark From majordomo-users-owner@greatcircle.com Mon Feb 11 20:10:25 2002 Received: from harrier.prod.itd.earthlink.net (harrier.mail.pas.earthlink.net [207.217.120.12]) by mycroft.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 93847195B2A for ; Mon, 11 Feb 2002 20:10:22 -0800 (PST) Received: from 1cust143.tnt1.warrenton.va.da.uu.net ([67.201.226.143] helo=notebook) by harrier.prod.itd.earthlink.net with smtp (Exim 3.33 #1) id 16aUGe-0002su-00; Mon, 11 Feb 2002 20:10:09 -0800 Message-ID: <000f01c1b37b$28f24580$8fe2c943@notebook> From: "Duane Beck" To: "Anders Hertz" , References: <0F0A1328A705D111858F00805F15FAD8D40C27@delphi.aub.auc.dk> Subject: Re: International Characters in intro and info Date: Mon, 11 Feb 2002 23:10:04 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4807.1700 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4807.1700 X-Archive-Number: 200202/61 X-Sequence-Number: 271 > I“ve got a problem when using danish characters in the info and/or > intro text > > I issue the newintro: > > newintro joketoday > - > ĘŲÅ ęųå Does this work > - > EOF > > and when I issue a intro command to look at it, it looks like this: > > >>>> intro joketoday > [Last updated on: Mon Feb 11 11:40:02 2002] > - > =C6=D8=C5 =E6=F8=E5 Does this work > - > >>>> > > Is this a mailer problem or the usual problem between windows and unix > ? Or can I define what character set/code Majordomo has to use ? > > I“m using Exim on Solaris as sendmail program. Outlook 2000/Win2000 as > mailclient. Your mailclient is most likely MIME encoding your newintro command as quoted printable. Try sending the message as plain text (no MIME encoding). From majordomo-users-owner@greatcircle.com Mon Feb 11 21:30:15 2002 Received: from mailb.telia.com (mailb.telia.com [194.22.194.6]) by mycroft.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id DDC43195B29 for ; Mon, 11 Feb 2002 21:30:12 -0800 (PST) Received: from d1o826.telia.com (d1o826.telia.com [213.65.0.241]) by mailb.telia.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g1C5UBM05925 for ; Tue, 12 Feb 2002 06:30:11 +0100 (CET) Received: from h136n2fls31o826.telia.com (h136n2fls31o826.telia.com [213.66.237.136]) by d1o826.telia.com (8.10.2/8.10.1) with ESMTP id g1C5UBs24218 for ; Tue, 12 Feb 2002 06:30:11 +0100 (CET) Subject: List of commands From: Martin =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Skj=F6ldebrand?= To: Majordomo List Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="=-3WcgQs65Lm33g20M7ICi" X-Mailer: Evolution/1.0.2 Date: 12 Feb 2002 06:32:53 +0100 Message-Id: <1013491973.14382.2.camel@skjoldebrand.dyndns.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Archive-Number: 200202/62 X-Sequence-Number: 272 --=-3WcgQs65Lm33g20M7ICi Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi, Can I find a list of commands you can send to a majordomo server somewhere? It should document all commands like "default" and "password" and such. Yes, I know I can mail the server with "help" but I'd prefer a complete list rather than sending off umpteen emails. TIA, Martin S. --=20 Martin Skj=F6ldebrand http://www.hauntedhousesw.com --=-3WcgQs65Lm33g20M7ICi Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name=signature.asc Content-Description: This is a digitally signed message part -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iD8DBQA8aKkFCMhBsTGEiQcRAg6BAJ0WrDO74+vr7CoGIi51NS887CYu4gCfZAK/ 2jHlBMJ5zSCnfP5peYTypwU= =amxZ -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --=-3WcgQs65Lm33g20M7ICi-- From majordomo-users-owner@greatcircle.com Mon Feb 11 22:04:45 2002 Received: from mta2.snfc21.pbi.net (mta2.snfc21.pbi.net [206.13.28.123]) by mycroft.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3644A195B26 for ; Mon, 11 Feb 2002 22:04:44 -0800 (PST) Received: from northcoast.com ([64.172.181.192]) by mta2.snfc21.pbi.net (Sun Internet Mail Server sims.3.5.2000.01.05.12.18.p9) with ESMTP id <0GRE00HEPOT611@mta2.snfc21.pbi.net> for majordomo-users@greatcircle.com; Mon, 11 Feb 2002 22:03:07 -0800 (PST) Date: Mon, 11 Feb 2002 22:05:16 -0800 From: Kyala Shea Subject: multiple messages to one address in multiple lists? To: majordomo-users@greatcircle.com Message-id: <3C68B09C.B5B88D7B@northcoast.com> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.75 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-Accept-Language: en X-Archive-Number: 200202/63 X-Sequence-Number: 273 I'm a new majordomo user and am wondering if it checks for repeat addresses in a message sent to multiple lists. In other words, if a user is subscribed to multiple mailing lists and an e-mail is sent to more than one of those lists, will the user receive multiple copies of the message? Is there a way to prevent the user from receiving multiple copies in this case? Thanks much, Kyala From majordomo-users-owner@greatcircle.com Mon Feb 11 23:05:23 2002 Received: from delphi.aub.auc.dk (delphi.aub.auc.dk [130.225.53.13]) by mycroft.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id AF701195B34 for ; Mon, 11 Feb 2002 23:05:19 -0800 (PST) Received: by delphi.aub.auc.dk with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) id ; Tue, 12 Feb 2002 08:05:18 +0100 Message-ID: <0F0A1328A705D111858F00805F15FAD8D40C2C@delphi.aub.auc.dk> From: Anders Hertz To: majordomo-users@greatcircle.com Subject: Re: International Characters in intro and info Date: Tue, 12 Feb 2002 08:05:16 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Archive-Number: 200202/64 X-Sequence-Number: 274 >> I=B4ve got a problem when using danish characters in the info and/or >> intro text >> =C6=D8=C5 =E6=F8=E5 Does this work >> | >> V >> =3DC6=3DD8=3DC5 =3DE6=3DF8=3DE5 Does this work >Your mailclient is most likely MIME encoding your newintro command as >quoted printable. Try sending the message as plain text (no MIME >encoding). I=B4m using plain-text and have tried all the char-sets in the MailClient. Normally using the western european (ISO) as default. /Anders From majordomo-users-owner@greatcircle.com Tue Feb 12 05:30:06 2002 Received: from virus.comfortex.com (unknown [206.136.95.2]) by mycroft.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with SMTP id 4A240195AC2 for ; Tue, 12 Feb 2002 05:30:05 -0800 (PST) Received: from 172.27.1.199 by virus.comfortex.com (InterScan E-Mail VirusWall NT); Tue, 12 Feb 2002 08:32:46 -0500 Message-ID: <006301c1b3c9$610af130$c7011bac@davefaul> From: "David Faul" To: Subject: Message Limit bounce to Sender? Date: Tue, 12 Feb 2002 08:30:04 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0060_01C1B39F.782A3AD0" X-Archive-Number: 200202/65 X-Sequence-Number: 275 ------=_NextPart_000_0060_01C1B39F.782A3AD0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I have a question about the Message Size Limit, and bounce notification. If a sender on a list emails the list with an attachment that is too large,= a bounce message is sent to the owner of the list. Is there any way possi= ble for the bounce message to be sent to the original sender as well? User= s are currently not receiving bounces from majordomo that their messages ar= e too large, and they believe the email was sent successfully. Maybe I am = missing something in the configuration? Any help on this would be greatly = appreciated. Thanks, Dave ------=_NextPart_000_0060_01C1B39F.782A3AD0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
I have a question about the Message Size L= imit, and=20 bounce notification.
 
If a sender on a list emails the list with= an=20 attachment that is too large, a bounce message is sent to the owner of the= =20 list.  Is there any way possible for the bounce message to be sent to = the=20 original sender as well?  Users are currently not receiving bounces fr= om=20 majordomo that their messages are too large, and they believe the email was= sent=20 successfully.  Maybe I am missing something in the configuration? = ; Any=20 help on this would be greatly appreciated.
 
Thanks,
 
Dave
------=_NextPart_000_0060_01C1B39F.782A3AD0-- From majordomo-users-owner@greatcircle.com Tue Feb 12 09:27:50 2002 Received: from gull.prod.itd.earthlink.net (gull.mail.pas.earthlink.net [207.217.120.84]) by mycroft.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B762F195AAC for ; Tue, 12 Feb 2002 09:27:48 -0800 (PST) Received: from 1cust93.tnt1.warrenton.va.da.uu.net ([67.201.226.93] helo=notebook) by gull.prod.itd.earthlink.net with smtp (Exim 3.33 #1) id 16agiT-0001DM-00; Tue, 12 Feb 2002 09:27:42 -0800 Message-ID: <005901c1b3ea$932cf200$8fe2c943@notebook> From: "Duane Beck" To: "Anders Hertz" , References: <0F0A1328A705D111858F00805F15FAD8D40C2C@delphi.aub.auc.dk> Subject: Re: International Characters in intro and info Date: Tue, 12 Feb 2002 12:25:30 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4807.1700 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4807.1700 X-Archive-Number: 200202/66 X-Sequence-Number: 276 > >Your mailclient is most likely MIME encoding your newintro command as > >quoted printable. Try sending the message as plain text (no MIME > >encoding). > > I“m using plain-text and have tried all the char-sets in the MailClient. > Normally using the western european (ISO) as default. Your original message contains the following header. You're encoding as quoted printable. Check your mail client for plain text encoding options, and set it to no encoding, if possible. Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable From majordomo-users-owner@greatcircle.com Tue Feb 12 09:55:26 2002 Received: from ns1.synergypoint.net (ns1.synergypoint.net [216.122.249.249]) by mycroft.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 51049195AB0 for ; Tue, 12 Feb 2002 09:55:25 -0800 (PST) Received: from chrisnt (polk-skybox.skyrunner.net [63.167.198.158]) by ns1.synergypoint.net (8.11.0/8.11.0) with SMTP id g1CHtPI58756 for ; Tue, 12 Feb 2002 12:55:25 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from chris@synergypoint.net) Reply-To: From: "Chris Young" To: Subject: Date: Tue, 12 Feb 2002 12:57:48 -0500 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 Importance: Normal X-Archive-Number: 200202/67 X-Sequence-Number: 277 Subject: Installation Help I am having trouble getting majordomo working correctly. Can anyone help me. I am running Free BSD 4.1.1 and majordomo 1.94.5. Majordomo seems to be installed correctly. When I run config-test I get no warnings. I have tried to set up the permissions according to the install docs but that may be where the problem is. I have set up a list and can subscribe successfully to the list. The problem arises when I attempt to send a message to the list. I get the following error message back via email: ******************************************************************* The original message was received at Tue, 12 Feb 2002 11:44:42 -0500 (EST) from majordom@localhost ----- The following addresses had permanent fatal errors ----- :include:/usr/local/majordomo/lists/enc (expanded from: enc-outgoing) ----- Transcript of session follows ----- 550 5.2.4 :include:/usr/local/majordomo/lists/enc... Cannot open /usr/local/majordomo/lists/enc: Group writable directory Message delivered to mailing list enc-outgoing ******************************************************************* Any idea why I get this error? As I said I can write to the lists directory and can go as far as successfully subscribing to a list. I just can't post to the list. Thanks. Chris Young Synergy Point From majordomo-users-owner@greatcircle.com Tue Feb 12 10:16:36 2002 Received: from marvin.peakss.com (marvin.peakss.com [12.45.97.108]) by mycroft.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0A154195ADD for ; Tue, 12 Feb 2002 10:16:35 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by marvin.peakss.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C4BC478F2B for ; Tue, 12 Feb 2002 11:16:34 -0700 (MST) Received: from clarent.com (blueman.peakss.com [172.28.1.4]) by marvin.peakss.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3EFA9169D for ; Tue, 12 Feb 2002 11:16:34 -0700 (MST) Message-ID: <3C695A5F.9060905@clarent.com> Date: Tue, 12 Feb 2002 11:09:35 -0700 From: Tige Richardson User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:0.9.4) Gecko/20011019 Netscape6/6.2 X-Accept-Language: en-us MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Majordomo-Users@GreatCircle.COM Subject: precedence: bulk in body of message? Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: by AMaViS perl-11 X-Archive-Number: 200202/68 X-Sequence-Number: 278 Hello, I am having a peculiar problem. I have searched google.groups.com and did not find an answer so I am hoping someone here is willing to help point me to some specific documentation or a configuration file where I can fix this. For some reason every time a message is mailed to one of our majordomo aliases the following appears in the body instead of the header: Precedence: bulk I found this in the .config file for the aliases in question, but it should be a part of the header and not the body. Can anyone tell me how to fix this? I am running: RedHat Linux 2.4.2-2 Majordomo v1.94.5 perl-5.6.0-12 Postfix 20010202-4 cyrus-imapd-2.0.9-3 Thanks in advance for any help! Tige From majordomo-users-owner@greatcircle.com Tue Feb 12 10:23:20 2002 Received: from ourldsfamily.com (ourfam.dsl.xmission.com [198.60.114.90]) by mycroft.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8A7FF195BB2 for ; Tue, 12 Feb 2002 10:23:18 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (karlp@localhost) by ourldsfamily.com (8.11.0/8.11.0) with ESMTP id g1CINAs03651 for ; Tue, 12 Feb 2002 11:23:10 -0700 Date: Tue, 12 Feb 2002 11:23:09 -0700 (MST) From: To: Subject: -post lists Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Archive-Number: 200202/69 X-Sequence-Number: 279 Hi. I'm using Dan's script (newlist2.pl) to create lists and notice that it creates the alias and list for the -post list. What do I do with this list? How do I take advantage of it? What's it for? Thanks, -- Karl L. Pearson Senior Consulting Systems Analyst Senior Consulting Database Analyst karlp@ourldsfamily.com My Thoughts on Terrorism In America: http://www.ourldsfamily.com/wtc.shtml From majordomo-users-owner@greatcircle.com Tue Feb 12 13:46:53 2002 Received: from smtp010.mail.yahoo.com (smtp010.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.173.30]) by mycroft.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with SMTP id 53CFB195B09 for ; Tue, 12 Feb 2002 13:46:52 -0800 (PST) Received: from 212-170-21-172.uc.nombres.ttd.es (HELO hoover.yahoo.es) (212.170.21.172) by smtp.mail.vip.sc5.yahoo.com with SMTP; 12 Feb 2002 21:46:41 -0000 Message-Id: <5.1.0.14.0.20020212224626.009e8970@pop.correo.yahoo.es> X-Sender: f_jorda@pop.correo.yahoo.es X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Tue, 12 Feb 2002 22:52:02 +0100 To: majordomo-users@greatcircle.com From: Francesc Subject: Re: In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed X-Archive-Number: 200202/70 X-Sequence-Number: 280 At 12:57 12/02/02 -0500, you wrote: >Subject: Installation Help > >I am having trouble getting majordomo working correctly. Can anyone help me. > >I am running Free BSD 4.1.1 and majordomo 1.94.5. > >Majordomo seems to be installed correctly. When I run config-test I get no >warnings. > >I have tried to set up the permissions according to the install docs but >that may be where the problem is. > >I have set up a list and can subscribe successfully to the list. > >The problem arises when I attempt to send a message to the list. > >I get the following error message back via email: > >******************************************************************* >The original message was received at Tue, 12 Feb 2002 11:44:42 -0500 (EST) >from majordom@localhost >----- The following addresses had permanent fatal errors ----- >:include:/usr/local/majordomo/lists/enc >(expanded from: enc-outgoing) >----- Transcript of session follows ----- >550 5.2.4 :include:/usr/local/majordomo/lists/enc... Cannot open >/usr/local/majordomo/lists/enc: Group writable directory >Message delivered to mailing list enc-outgoing >******************************************************************* > >Any idea why I get this error? > >As I said I can write to the lists directory and can go as far as >successfully subscribing to a list. I just can't post to the list. > >Thanks. > >Chris Young >Synergy Point Hi Chris! I think it's about a problem with the mail server. You can subscribe because the majordomo does it but to send the mail the process who works with the file is the mail server. Check the permissions in the /usr/local/majordomo/lists and /usr/local/majordomo directories. _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com From majordomo-users-owner@greatcircle.com Tue Feb 12 14:23:14 2002 Received: from KC1NOC01.noc.dsionline.com (kc1noc01.dsionline.com [12.105.149.130]) by mycroft.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with SMTP id 36637195B14 for ; Tue, 12 Feb 2002 14:23:13 -0800 (PST) Received: from 172.17.1.58 by KC1NOC01.noc.dsionline.com (InterScan E-Mail VirusWall NT); Tue, 12 Feb 2002 16:23:54 -0600 Received: by kc1excon01.mail.dsionline.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id ; Tue, 12 Feb 2002 16:20:43 -0600 Message-ID: From: "Leonard, Phil" To: "'majordomo-users@greatcircle.com'" Subject: Relay Problem Date: Tue, 12 Feb 2002 16:21:37 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" X-Archive-Number: 200202/71 X-Sequence-Number: 281 I've been having an intermittent 553 Relay Denied problem when running Majordomo 1.94.5 on Linux 2.2 (Redhat 7.0). The 553 messages are only for messages bound for domains outside of the local domain or the ISP's domain. It appears that the relay denial is from a POP-before-SMTP rule because if I send a message to the list from a local user everything goes through fine. For a period after that mail to the list from any domain goes through fine but about an hour later the 553 messages show up again for non-local domains. Any ideas? Thanks, Philip ---------- Internet E-mail Confidentiality Disclaimer ---------- PRIVILEGED / CONFIDENTIAL INFORMATION may be contained in this message. If you are not the addressee indicated in this message or the employee or agent responsible for delivering it to the addressee, you are hereby on notice that you are in possession of confidential and privileged information. Any dissemination, distribution, or copying of this e-mail is strictly prohibited. In such case, you should destroy this message and kindly notify the sender by reply e-mail. Please advise immediately if you or your employer do not consent to Internet email for messages of this kind. Opinions, conclusions, and other information in this message that do not relate to the official business of my firm shall be understood as neither given nor endorsed by it. From majordomo-users-owner@greatcircle.com Wed Feb 13 03:33:14 2002 Received: from laser-net.de (pD9590CA2.dip.t-dialin.net [217.89.12.162]) by mycroft.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2B1A2195B4A for ; Wed, 13 Feb 2002 03:33:12 -0800 (PST) Received: from www-server (www-server.laser-net.de [192.168.1.1]) by laser-net.de (8.11.3/8.11.3/SuSE Linux 8.11.1-0.5) with ESMTP id g1DBX7k03918 for ; Wed, 13 Feb 2002 12:33:07 +0100 From: "Customer-Service 1" Organization: Optlectra GmbH -The Laser Company- To: Majordomo-USERS@GREATCIRCLE.com Date: Wed, 13 Feb 2002 12:32:55 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Subject: Re: Majorcool Message-ID: <3C6A5CF7.13197.12DDD6D@localhost> In-reply-to: <3C6A5BC4.20205.1292FD5@localhost> X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Win32 (v3.12b) X-Archive-Number: 200202/72 X-Sequence-Number: 282 I hope somebody can help or guide me in the right direction. I got to install majordomo at our site and it appears to work ok, however I also would like to use the majorcool interface, but was unable to get it to work. When I create a list over the web interface, the list is created in /var/lib/majordomo/lists, but a) the list info is not in the .majordomo_keys b) the file /etc/aliases is not modified c) in the file /var/lib/majordomo/tmp/log.3385 is an entry with "WARNING Non-domained address: username" (username is the real username where the majorcool.cgi got installed). d) I get no error messages by email or on the return page. I am running the server local, with no public IP. Thanks in advance for any help. rgds Werner From majordomo-users-owner@greatcircle.com Wed Feb 13 10:05:28 2002 Received: from mail.insaro.org (unknown [66.34.186.1]) by mycroft.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 777A2195AA9 for ; Wed, 13 Feb 2002 10:05:26 -0800 (PST) Received: from boris [148.233.183.241] by mail.insaro.org with ESMTP (SMTPD32-7.05) id AB084012C; Wed, 13 Feb 2002 12:06:00 -0600 Message-ID: <036401c1b4b8$e713c820$9bd241c8@boris> Reply-To: "Garrison St.Clair" From: "Garrison St.Clair" To: References: Subject: Demime Volunteer Date: Wed, 13 Feb 2002 12:04:16 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 X-Archive-Number: 200202/73 X-Sequence-Number: 283 Guys: Last week I posted a question about setting majordomo to strip attachments. Several of you recommended "demime". I checked out the website and discussed it with the listmaster. Its well above his pay grade. The list in question is for a non-profit emergency management organization. Is there anyone who would be willing to volunteer to install demime on the list in question? If so, please contact me privately at gunslinger@insaro.org and I'll put you in touch with the listmaster. Thanks for any help. Gunslinger Gunslinger's First Law of SAR: "SAR is for the serious, not the well meaning." ---- To subscribe to the Incident Briefing Network list: Send a blank e-mail to: incident-briefing-network-subscribe@yahoogroups.com Please distribute the subscription information to all interested parties. ************************************************************** From majordomo-users-owner@greatcircle.com Wed Feb 13 12:58:18 2002 Received: from kc1noc02.noc.dsionline.com (kc1noc02.dsionline.com [12.105.149.131]) by mycroft.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with SMTP id E1A041959F5 for ; Wed, 13 Feb 2002 12:58:16 -0800 (PST) Received: from 172.17.1.58 by kc1noc02.noc.dsionline.com (InterScan E-Mail VirusWall NT); Wed, 13 Feb 2002 14:58:59 -0600 Received: by kc1excon01.mail.dsionline.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id ; Wed, 13 Feb 2002 14:55:43 -0600 Message-ID: From: "Leonard, Phil" To: "'majordomo-users@greatcircle.com'" Subject: Re: Relay Problem Date: Wed, 13 Feb 2002 14:56:38 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" X-Archive-Number: 200202/74 X-Sequence-Number: 284 Okay I figured this one out. I had my ISP's SMTP specified as the Smart SMTP Host in my sendmail.cf file. Oops! That caused all out-bound traffic to go through their SMTP relay. By removing this entry sendmail now connects to the appropriate SMTP servers to deliver the Majordomo mail. Philip -----Original Message----- From: Leonard, Phil Sent: Tuesday, February 12, 2002 4:22 PM To: 'majordomo-users@greatcircle.com' Subject: Relay Problem I've been having an intermittent 553 Relay Denied problem when running Majordomo 1.94.5 on Linux 2.2 (Redhat 7.0). The 553 messages are only for messages bound for domains outside of the local domain or the ISP's domain. It appears that the relay denial is from a POP-before-SMTP rule because if I send a message to the list from a local user everything goes through fine. For a period after that mail to the list from any domain goes through fine but about an hour later the 553 messages show up again for non-local domains. Any ideas? Thanks, Philip ---------- Internet E-mail Confidentiality Disclaimer ---------- PRIVILEGED / CONFIDENTIAL INFORMATION may be contained in this message. If you are not the addressee indicated in this message or the employee or agent responsible for delivering it to the addressee, you are hereby on notice that you are in possession of confidential and privileged information. Any dissemination, distribution, or copying of this e-mail is strictly prohibited. In such case, you should destroy this message and kindly notify the sender by reply e-mail. Please advise immediately if you or your employer do not consent to Internet email for messages of this kind. Opinions, conclusions, and other information in this message that do not relate to the official business of my firm shall be understood as neither given nor endorsed by it. From majordomo-users-owner@greatcircle.com Thu Feb 14 01:06:21 2002 Received: from dagesh.fw.belnet.be (argos.belnet.be [193.190.198.37]) by mycroft.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 84B9F1959EB for ; Thu, 14 Feb 2002 01:06:18 -0800 (PST) Received: (from root@localhost) by dagesh.fw.belnet.be (8.11.5/8.11.5) id g1E96HA19246 for majordomo-users@greatcircle.com; Thu, 14 Feb 2002 10:06:17 +0100 (MET) Received: from jeroen.fw.belnet.be (jeroen.fw.belnet.be [172.24.198.41]) by dagesh.fw.belnet.be (8.11.5/8.11.5) with ESMTP id g1E96Bj19239 for ; Thu, 14 Feb 2002 10:06:11 +0100 (MET) Received: from jeroen.fw.belnet.be (jeroen.fw.belnet.be [172.24.198.41]) by jeroen.fw.belnet.be (8.12.1/8.12.1) with ESMTP id g1E96BIQ017295 for ; Thu, 14 Feb 2002 10:06:11 +0100 Received: (from jeroen@localhost) by jeroen.fw.belnet.be (8.12.1/8.12.1/Submit) id g1E96A3A017294 for majordomo-users@greatcircle.com; Thu, 14 Feb 2002 10:06:10 +0100 Date: Thu, 14 Feb 2002 10:06:10 +0100 From: Jeroen Valcke To: majordomo-users@greatcircle.com Subject: subscribers receiving bounces Message-ID: <20020214100608.E16964@belnet.be> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i X-Virus-Scanned: by AMaViS perl-11 X-Archive-Number: 200202/75 X-Sequence-Number: 285 Hello, I have a few mailing lists which majordomo manages. Lately some subscribers are getting bounce warnings from majordomo. At least that's what I guess it is. However in the mail all the email addresses which bounce are listed?! Is this normal? This is spam heaven? Can somebody enlighten me ;-) -Jeroen- -- jeroen.valcke@belnet.be http://www.belnet.be From majordomo-users-owner@greatcircle.com Thu Feb 14 08:20:44 2002 Received: from penguin.postmodern.com (penguin.postmodern.com [216.240.39.2]) by mycroft.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id DF4E8195AB2 for ; Thu, 14 Feb 2002 08:20:42 -0800 (PST) Received: from marvin.peakss.com (marvin.peakss.com [12.45.97.108]) by penguin.postmodern.com (8.11.1/8.11.1-mcb-20001119) with ESMTP id g1EGKe014525 for ; Thu, 14 Feb 2002 08:20:40 -0800 Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by marvin.peakss.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 71F2779D3C for ; Thu, 14 Feb 2002 09:14:18 -0700 (MST) Received: from clarent.com (blueman.peakss.com [172.28.1.4]) by marvin.peakss.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id DAB1179D37 for ; Thu, 14 Feb 2002 09:14:17 -0700 (MST) Message-ID: <3C6BE0A4.6000009@clarent.com> Date: Thu, 14 Feb 2002 09:07:00 -0700 From: Tige Richardson User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:0.9.4) Gecko/20011019 Netscape6/6.2 X-Accept-Language: en-us MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Majordomo-Users@GreatCircle.COM Subject: Re: precedence: bulk in body of message? References: <3C695A5F.9060905@clarent.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: by AMaViS perl-11 X-Archive-Number: 200202/76 X-Sequence-Number: 286 An update: Still have not heard any reply...if anyone can help I would sure appreciate it! It appears that there is a blank line in the headers before the Precedence: bulk. I believe this null value is more than likely the cause of Precedence: bulk showing up in the body of the message. Any idea why this null value (blank line) is there and how to fix it? Header below: -- Return-Path: X-Sieve: cmu-sieve 2.0 Return-Path: Received: by marvin.blah.com (Postfix) id 9D3F279D29; Thu, 14 Feb 2002 09:10:01 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: tigetest-list@marvin.blah.com Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by marvin.blah.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 906D979D28 for ; Thu, 14 Feb 2002 09:10:01 -0700 (MST) Received: by marvin.blah.com (Postfix, from userid 123) id 0C97879D24; Thu, 14 Feb 2002 09:10:01 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: tigetest@blah.com Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by marvin.blah.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id CADDE79D28 for ; Thu, 14 Feb 2002 09:10:00 -0700 (MST) Received: from clarent.com (blueman.blah.com [172.28.1.4]) by marvin.blah.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 44F1E79D22 for ; Thu, 14 Feb 2002 09:10:00 -0700 (MST) Message-ID: <3C6BDFA3.5090403@clarent.com> Date: Thu, 14 Feb 2002 09:02:43 -0700 From: Tige Richardson User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:0.9.4) Gecko/20011019 Netscape6/6.2 X-Accept-Language: en-us MIME-Version: 1.0 To: tigetest Subject: test Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-tigetest@blah.com X-Virus-Scanned: by AMaViS perl-11 Precedence: bulk testing this alias....123... Tige Richardson wrote: > Hello, > > I am having a peculiar problem. I have searched google.groups.com and > did not find an answer so I am hoping someone here is willing to help > point me to some specific documentation or a configuration file where I > can fix this. > > For some reason every time a message is mailed to one of our majordomo > aliases the following appears in the body instead of the header: > > Precedence: bulk > > I found this in the .config file for the aliases in question, but it > should be a part of the header and not the body. Can anyone tell me how > to fix this? > > I am running: > > RedHat Linux 2.4.2-2 > Majordomo v1.94.5 > perl-5.6.0-12 > Postfix 20010202-4 > cyrus-imapd-2.0.9-3 > > Thanks in advance for any help! > > Tige From majordomo-users-owner@greatcircle.com Thu Feb 14 08:25:34 2002 Received: from virus.comfortex.com (unknown [206.136.95.2]) by mycroft.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with SMTP id 9C0DB195AAE for ; Thu, 14 Feb 2002 08:25:32 -0800 (PST) Received: from 172.27.1.199 by virus.comfortex.com (InterScan E-Mail VirusWall NT); Thu, 14 Feb 2002 11:28:14 -0500 Message-ID: <00ce01c1b574$3785e480$c7011bac@davefaul> From: "David Faul" To: Subject: Fw: Message Limit bounce to Sender? Date: Thu, 14 Feb 2002 11:25:29 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_00CB_01C1B54A.4EA81450" X-Archive-Number: 200202/77 X-Sequence-Number: 287 ------=_NextPart_000_00CB_01C1B54A.4EA81450 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Does anyone know about this issue? I don't know if this is the way it work= s, or if it should be bouncing the size limit warning to the sender as well. Thanks again, Dave ----- Original Message -----=20 From: David Faul=20 To: majordomo-users@greatcircle.com=20 Sent: Tuesday, February 12, 2002 8:30 AM Subject: Message Limit bounce to Sender? I have a question about the Message Size Limit, and bounce notification. If a sender on a list emails the list with an attachment that is too large,= a bounce message is sent to the owner of the list. Is there any way possi= ble for the bounce message to be sent to the original sender as well? User= s are currently not receiving bounces from majordomo that their messages ar= e too large, and they believe the email was sent successfully. Maybe I am = missing something in the configuration? Any help on this would be greatly = appreciated. Thanks, Dave ------=_NextPart_000_00CB_01C1B54A.4EA81450 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Does anyone know about this issue? &n= bsp;I=20 don't know if this is the way it works, or if it should be bouncing the siz= e=20 limit warning to the sender as well.
 
Thanks again,
 
Dave
 
----- Original Message -----=20
From: David Faul<= /A>=20
Sent: Tuesday, February 12, 2002 8:30 AM
Subject: Message Limit bounce to Sender?

I have a question about the Message Size L= imit, and=20 bounce notification.
 
If a sender on a list emails the list with= an=20 attachment that is too large, a bounce message is sent to the owner of the= =20 list.  Is there any way possible for the bounce message to be sent to = the=20 original sender as well?  Users are currently not receiving bounces fr= om=20 majordomo that their messages are too large, and they believe the email was= sent=20 successfully.  Maybe I am missing something in the configuration? = ; Any=20 help on this would be greatly appreciated.
 
Thanks,
 
Dave
------=_NextPart_000_00CB_01C1B54A.4EA81450-- From majordomo-users-owner@greatcircle.com Thu Feb 14 08:49:17 2002 Received: from mail.bcpl.net (mail.bcpl.net [204.255.212.10]) by mycroft.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id EEB30195AB2 for ; Thu, 14 Feb 2002 08:49:14 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (fold@localhost) by mail.bcpl.net (8.11.3/8.11.3) with ESMTP id g1EGnDH29618 for ; Thu, 14 Feb 2002 11:49:13 -0500 (EST) Date: Thu, 14 Feb 2002 11:49:13 -0500 (EST) From: Chip Old X-X-Sender: To: MAJORDOMO-USERS Subject: Re: precedence: bulk in body of message? In-Reply-To: <3C6BE0A4.6000009@clarent.com> Message-ID: X-Organization: BCPL.NET Internet Services X-Abuse-Reports: abuse@bcpl.net MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Archive-Number: 200202/78 X-Sequence-Number: 288 Best Guess: Since the line above in the header is "X-Virus-Scanned: by AMaViS perl-11", check to see if the blank line is being inserted by the AMaViS script. On Thu, 14 Feb 2002, Tige Richardson wrote: > An update: Still have not heard any reply...if anyone can help I would > sure appreciate it! > > It appears that there is a blank line in the headers before the > Precedence: bulk. I believe this null value is more than likely the > cause of Precedence: bulk showing up in the body of the message. Any > idea why this null value (blank line) is there and how to fix it? > > Header below: > > -- > > Return-Path: > X-Sieve: cmu-sieve 2.0 > Return-Path: > Received: by marvin.blah.com (Postfix) > id 9D3F279D29; Thu, 14 Feb 2002 09:10:01 -0700 (MST) > Delivered-To: tigetest-list@marvin.blah.com > Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) > by marvin.blah.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 906D979D28 > for ; Thu, 14 Feb 2002 09:10:01 > -0700 (MST) > Received: by marvin.blah.com (Postfix, from userid 123) > id 0C97879D24; Thu, 14 Feb 2002 09:10:01 -0700 (MST) > Delivered-To: tigetest@blah.com > Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) > by marvin.blah.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id CADDE79D28 > for ; Thu, 14 Feb 2002 09:10:00 -0700 (MST) > Received: from clarent.com (blueman.blah.com [172.28.1.4]) > by marvin.blah.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 44F1E79D22 > for ; Thu, 14 Feb 2002 09:10:00 -0700 (MST) > Message-ID: <3C6BDFA3.5090403@clarent.com> > Date: Thu, 14 Feb 2002 09:02:43 -0700 > From: Tige Richardson > User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:0.9.4) > Gecko/20011019 Netscape6/6.2 > X-Accept-Language: en-us > MIME-Version: 1.0 > To: tigetest > Subject: test > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed > Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > Sender: owner-tigetest@blah.com > X-Virus-Scanned: by AMaViS perl-11 > > Precedence: bulk > > testing this alias....123... > > > > > > > > Tige Richardson wrote: > > > Hello, > > > > I am having a peculiar problem. I have searched google.groups.com and > > did not find an answer so I am hoping someone here is willing to help > > point me to some specific documentation or a configuration file where I > > can fix this. > > > > For some reason every time a message is mailed to one of our majordomo > > aliases the following appears in the body instead of the header: > > > > Precedence: bulk > > > > I found this in the .config file for the aliases in question, but it > > should be a part of the header and not the body. Can anyone tell me how > > to fix this? > > > > I am running: > > > > RedHat Linux 2.4.2-2 > > Majordomo v1.94.5 > > perl-5.6.0-12 > > Postfix 20010202-4 > > cyrus-imapd-2.0.9-3 > > > > Thanks in advance for any help! > > > > Tige > > > > -- Chip Old (Francis E. Old) E-Mail: fold@bcpl.net Manager, BCPL Network Services Phone: 410-887-6180 Manager, BCPL.NET Internet Services FAX: 410-887-2091 Baltimore County Public Library 320 York Road Towson, MD 21204 USA From majordomo-users-owner@greatcircle.com Thu Feb 14 08:49:49 2002 Received: from marvin.peakss.com (marvin.peakss.com [12.45.97.108]) by mycroft.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0B5FC195BB6 for ; Thu, 14 Feb 2002 08:49:27 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by marvin.peakss.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 98DCF79D94 for ; Thu, 14 Feb 2002 09:49:26 -0700 (MST) Received: from clarent.com (blueman.peakss.com [172.28.1.4]) by marvin.peakss.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 095BE79AAC for ; Thu, 14 Feb 2002 09:49:26 -0700 (MST) Message-ID: <3C6BE8E0.7020306@clarent.com> Date: Thu, 14 Feb 2002 09:42:08 -0700 From: Tige Richardson User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:0.9.4) Gecko/20011019 Netscape6/6.2 X-Accept-Language: en-us MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Majordomo-Users@greatcircle.com Subject: Re: precedence: bulk in body of message? References: <3C695A5F.9060905@clarent.com> <3C6BE0A4.6000009@clarent.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: by AMaViS perl-11 X-Archive-Number: 200202/79 X-Sequence-Number: 289 Hello, Posting back to the mailing list in case others ever have the same problem...In the majordomo.cf file the following line was present: $whereami = `/bin/dnsdomainname`; Changing this to the following solved the problem: $whereami = "insertyourdomainhere.com"; For some reason running dnsdomainname within the cf file caused a EOL in the header. Not sure why, but it is now working... Thanks for your time... Tige Tige Richardson wrote: > An update: Still have not heard any reply...if anyone can help I would > sure appreciate it! > > It appears that there is a blank line in the headers before the > Precedence: bulk. I believe this null value is more than likely the > cause of Precedence: bulk showing up in the body of the message. Any > idea why this null value (blank line) is there and how to fix it? > > Header below: > > -- > > Return-Path: > X-Sieve: cmu-sieve 2.0 > Return-Path: > Received: by marvin.blah.com (Postfix) > id 9D3F279D29; Thu, 14 Feb 2002 09:10:01 -0700 (MST) > Delivered-To: tigetest-list@marvin.blah.com > Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) > by marvin.blah.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 906D979D28 > for ; Thu, 14 Feb 2002 09:10:01 > -0700 (MST) > Received: by marvin.blah.com (Postfix, from userid 123) > id 0C97879D24; Thu, 14 Feb 2002 09:10:01 -0700 (MST) > Delivered-To: tigetest@blah.com > Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) > by marvin.blah.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id CADDE79D28 > for ; Thu, 14 Feb 2002 09:10:00 -0700 (MST) > Received: from clarent.com (blueman.blah.com [172.28.1.4]) > by marvin.blah.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 44F1E79D22 > for ; Thu, 14 Feb 2002 09:10:00 -0700 (MST) > Message-ID: <3C6BDFA3.5090403@clarent.com> > Date: Thu, 14 Feb 2002 09:02:43 -0700 > From: Tige Richardson > User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:0.9.4) > Gecko/20011019 Netscape6/6.2 > X-Accept-Language: en-us > MIME-Version: 1.0 > To: tigetest > Subject: test > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed > Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > Sender: owner-tigetest@blah.com > X-Virus-Scanned: by AMaViS perl-11 > > Precedence: bulk > > testing this alias....123... > > > > > > > > Tige Richardson wrote: > >> Hello, >> >> I am having a peculiar problem. I have searched google.groups.com and >> did not find an answer so I am hoping someone here is willing to help >> point me to some specific documentation or a configuration file where >> I can fix this. >> >> For some reason every time a message is mailed to one of our majordomo >> aliases the following appears in the body instead of the header: >> >> Precedence: bulk >> >> I found this in the .config file for the aliases in question, but it >> should be a part of the header and not the body. Can anyone tell me >> how to fix this? >> >> I am running: >> >> RedHat Linux 2.4.2-2 >> Majordomo v1.94.5 >> perl-5.6.0-12 >> Postfix 20010202-4 >> cyrus-imapd-2.0.9-3 >> >> Thanks in advance for any help! >> >> Tige From majordomo-users-owner@greatcircle.com Thu Feb 14 21:03:14 2002 Received: from arm.mrball.net (mrball.net [209.85.130.137]) by mycroft.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D71A3195AA8 for ; Thu, 14 Feb 2002 21:03:10 -0800 (PST) Received: from todd.mrball.net (todd.mrball.net [192.168.18.3]) by arm.mrball.net (8.11.2/8.11.2) with ESMTP id g1F537Y20605 for ; Thu, 14 Feb 2002 21:03:07 -0800 Received: (from todd@localhost) by todd.mrball.net (8.12.0.Beta7/8.12.0.Beta7) id g1F530iQ011442 for majordomo-users@greatcircle.com; Thu, 14 Feb 2002 21:03:00 -0800 Date: Thu, 14 Feb 2002 21:03:00 -0800 From: Todd Lyons To: majordomo-users@greatcircle.com Subject: Re: multiple messages to one address in multiple lists? Message-ID: <20020214210300.I11190@mrball.net> Mail-Followup-To: majordomo-users@greatcircle.com References: <3C68B09C.B5B88D7B@northcoast.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <3C68B09C.B5B88D7B@northcoast.com>; from amiga@northcoast.com on Mon, Feb 11, 2002 at 10:05:16PM -0800 X-Archive-Number: 200202/80 X-Sequence-Number: 290 Kyala Shea wanted us to know: >addresses in a message sent to multiple lists. In other words, if a >user is subscribed to multiple mailing lists and an e-mail is sent to >more than one of those lists, will the user receive multiple copies of >the message? Yes. > Is there a way to prevent the user from receiving multiple >copies in this case? That's a function of the local MDA in my experience. I've got procmail set to filter dupes and it catches cross-posts and cc's. For "3-pane" mail users, I don't know that there is a way to do this. -- Blue skies... Todd | Get a bigger hammer! | Security is like an onion. It's made | | http://www.mrball.net | up of several layers and makes you cry. | | http://faq.mrball.net | --Howard Chu | From majordomo-users-owner@greatcircle.com Thu Feb 14 21:05:47 2002 Received: from arm.mrball.net (mrball.net [209.85.130.137]) by mycroft.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 143CD195AA8 for ; Thu, 14 Feb 2002 21:05:46 -0800 (PST) Received: from todd.mrball.net (todd.mrball.net [192.168.18.3]) by arm.mrball.net (8.11.2/8.11.2) with ESMTP id g1F55lY20619 for ; Thu, 14 Feb 2002 21:05:47 -0800 Received: (from todd@localhost) by todd.mrball.net (8.12.0.Beta7/8.12.0.Beta7) id g1F55fG7011458 for Majordomo-Users@greatcircle.com; Thu, 14 Feb 2002 21:05:41 -0800 Date: Thu, 14 Feb 2002 21:05:40 -0800 From: Todd Lyons To: Majordomo-Users@greatcircle.com Subject: Re: precedence: bulk in body of message? Message-ID: <20020214210540.K11190@mrball.net> Mail-Followup-To: Majordomo-Users@greatcircle.com References: <3C695A5F.9060905@clarent.com> <3C6BE0A4.6000009@clarent.com> <3C6BE8E0.7020306@clarent.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <3C6BE8E0.7020306@clarent.com>; from Tige.Richardson@clarent.com on Thu, Feb 14, 2002 at 09:42:08AM -0700 X-Archive-Number: 200202/81 X-Sequence-Number: 291 Tige Richardson wanted us to know: >$whereami = `/bin/dnsdomainname`; Add a chomp() to this. This is the same mistake that was made in an old RedHat 5.x rpm. -- Blue skies... Todd | Get a bigger hammer! | Security is like an onion. It's made | | http://www.mrball.net | up of several layers and makes you cry. | | http://faq.mrball.net | --Howard Chu | From majordomo-users-owner@greatcircle.com Fri Feb 15 01:52:10 2002 Received: from etzion.org.il (linux.hertzog.macam98.ac.il [192.114.207.34]) by mycroft.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D4824195ACB for ; Fri, 15 Feb 2002 01:52:06 -0800 (PST) Received: from etzion.org.il (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by localhost (8.12.0.Beta16/8.12.0.Beta16/Debian 8.12.0.Beta16) with ESMTP id g1F9ppn7004311 for ; Fri, 15 Feb 2002 11:51:52 +0200 Received: (from ebick@localhost) by etzion.org.il (8.12.0.Beta16/8.12.0.Beta16/Debian 8.12.0.Beta16) id g1F9ppBA004309; Fri, 15 Feb 2002 11:51:51 +0200 Date: Fri, 15 Feb 2002 11:51:51 +0200 (IST) From: Ezra Bick To: majordomo-users@greatcircle.com Subject: Re: multiple messages to one address in multiple lists? In-Reply-To: <20020214210300.I11190@mrball.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Archive-Number: 200202/82 X-Sequence-Number: 292 The only way I know of to send one message to each unique subscriber on a system of multiple lists is to open a new list and write a script to combine all your other lists and filter out duplicates. This is not a complicated bit of coding and offers the advantage of letting you know how many unique subscribers you actually have. On Thu, 14 Feb 2002, Todd Lyons wrote: > Kyala Shea wanted us to know: > > >addresses in a message sent to multiple lists. In other words, if a > >user is subscribed to multiple mailing lists and an e-mail is sent to > >more than one of those lists, will the user receive multiple copies of > >the message? > > Yes. > From majordomo-users-owner@greatcircle.com Fri Feb 15 04:50:32 2002 Received: from morpheus.tristan.is (ns1.tristan.is [194.105.235.10]) by mycroft.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E373B195B17 for ; Fri, 15 Feb 2002 04:50:30 -0800 (PST) Received: from zi0n2k (apoc.goprogroup.com [213.220.103.250]) by morpheus.tristan.is (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id g1FCoTE13823 for ; Fri, 15 Feb 2002 12:50:29 GMT Message-ID: <002901c1b61f$593520e0$fa67dcd5@zi0n2k> From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Jakob_Sigur=F0sson?= To: Subject: Visible TO address for users Date: Fri, 15 Feb 2002 12:50:29 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 X-Archive-Number: 200202/83 X-Sequence-Number: 293 Hello. I host several large email lists (more than 20.000 subscribers) using majordomo... Btw. Great piece of software! :-) We are recieving ALOT of complaints from users that do not want to be on the list, however it“s sometimes very hard to track them down, mostly due to email forwarding since I cant find there real email addresses in the list. Is there a way to show users to what address (not just "To: somelist@host.com" but the real user email address (user@isp.com)) the message was really sent in the message header or the body ???? Any help will be much appreciated, Best regards, Jakob Sigurdsson jjswrk@j.is From majordomo-users-owner@greatcircle.com Fri Feb 15 04:54:37 2002 Received: from morpheus.tristan.is (ns1.tristan.is [194.105.235.10]) by mycroft.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 608E1195B17 for ; Fri, 15 Feb 2002 04:54:35 -0800 (PST) Received: from zi0n2k (apoc.goprogroup.com [213.220.103.250]) by morpheus.tristan.is (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id g1FCsYE14221 for ; Fri, 15 Feb 2002 12:54:34 GMT Message-ID: <006a01c1b61f$eb20eed0$fa67dcd5@zi0n2k> From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Jakob_Sigur=F0sson?= To: References: <002901c1b61f$593520e0$fa67dcd5@zi0n2k> Subject: Re: Visible TO address for users Date: Fri, 15 Feb 2002 12:54:34 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 X-Archive-Number: 200202/84 X-Sequence-Number: 294 Hello again. I forgot one thing. It whould be great if i chould append something like this to the bottom of the message: ------------- This message was sent to user@isp.com via list@host.com ------------- Is there a way to do this ? Jacob. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jakob Siguršsson" To: Sent: Friday, February 15, 2002 12:50 PM Subject: Visible TO address for users > Hello. > > I host several large email lists (more than 20.000 subscribers) using > majordomo... Btw. Great piece of software! :-) > We are recieving ALOT of complaints from users that do not want to be on the > list, however it“s sometimes very hard to track them down, mostly due to > email forwarding since I cant find there real email addresses in the list. > > Is there a way to show users to what address (not just "To: > somelist@host.com" but the real user email address (user@isp.com)) the > message was really sent in the message header or the body ???? > > Any help will be much appreciated, > > Best regards, > Jakob Sigurdsson > jjswrk@j.is > > > From majordomo-users-owner@greatcircle.com Fri Feb 15 08:21:05 2002 Received: from CS.MsState.Edu (walt.cs.msstate.edu [130.18.208.30]) by mycroft.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7A9841959EC for ; Fri, 15 Feb 2002 08:21:03 -0800 (PST) Received: from disney.cs.msstate.edu (disney.cs.msstate.edu [130.18.208.197]); by CS.MsState.Edu (8.10.2+Sun/8.9.3/MsState-CS/evision: 1.3 $) with ESMTP; id g1FGL1n08880 for ; Fri, 15 Feb 2002 10:21:01 -0600 (CST) Received: from localhost (gjackson@localhost) by disney.cs.msstate.edu (8.10.2+Sun/8.10.2) with ESMTP id g1FGL1T02571 for ; Fri, 15 Feb 2002 10:21:01 -0600 (CST) X-Authentication-Warning: disney.cs.msstate.edu: gjackson owned process doing -bs Date: Fri, 15 Feb 2002 10:21:01 -0600 (CST) From: George Jackson To: Subject: commands not being recognized Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Archive-Number: 200202/85 X-Sequence-Number: 295 I've inherited a majordomo installation on our departmental server. Being new to it I've brushed up on the configuration and read docs and faqs but am having trouble trying to figure out the following problem: Whenever I send commands to majordomo@cs.msstate.edu all I get is **** No valid commands found. **** Commands must be in message BODY, not in HEADER. **** Help for Majordomo@cs.msstate.edu: [default help message output then follows] even though I *am* putting commands in the body of the message and not the subject or header. I'm using sendmail 8.9.10 on a Solaris 7 box. Where should I be looking to diagnose this issue? Thanks, George From majordomo-users-owner@greatcircle.com Fri Feb 15 08:29:24 2002 Received: from smtp2.concord.com (smtp2.concord.com [192.124.16.229]) by mycroft.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id DE0651959F0 for ; Fri, 15 Feb 2002 08:29:22 -0800 (PST) Received: from exchng1.concord.com (unverified) by smtp2.concord.com (Content Technologies SMTPRS 4.2.5) with ESMTP id for ; Fri, 15 Feb 2002 11:29:27 -0500 Received: by exchng1.concord.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id ; Fri, 15 Feb 2002 11:29:18 -0500 Message-ID: <672B00A685D0D411AF32009027D6385702AE3817@mdfrouter2-eng.concord.com> From: "LaPorta, Fab" To: "'majordomo-users@greatcircle.com'" Subject: Re: commands not being recognized Date: Fri, 15 Feb 2002 11:29:17 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" X-Archive-Number: 200202/86 X-Sequence-Number: 296 Are you sending your commands in plain text? -----Original Message----- From: George Jackson [mailto:gjackson@cs.msstate.edu] Sent: Friday, February 15, 2002 11:21 AM To: majordomo-users@greatcircle.com Subject: commands not being recognized I've inherited a majordomo installation on our departmental server. Being new to it I've brushed up on the configuration and read docs and faqs but am having trouble trying to figure out the following problem: Whenever I send commands to majordomo@cs.msstate.edu all I get is **** No valid commands found. **** Commands must be in message BODY, not in HEADER. **** Help for Majordomo@cs.msstate.edu: [default help message output then follows] even though I *am* putting commands in the body of the message and not the subject or header. I'm using sendmail 8.9.10 on a Solaris 7 box. Where should I be looking to diagnose this issue? Thanks, George ********************************************************************** This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify the system manager. This footnote also confirms that this email message has been swept by the latest virus scan software available for the presence of computer viruses. ********************************************************************** From majordomo-users-owner@greatcircle.com Fri Feb 15 08:47:58 2002 Received: from tom.iecc.com (tom.iecc.com [208.31.42.38]) by mycroft.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with SMTP id 74CF31959EC for ; Fri, 15 Feb 2002 08:47:56 -0800 (PST) Received: (qmail 7845 invoked from network); 15 Feb 2002 11:47:48 -0500 Received: (ofmipd 172.149.255.152); 15 Feb 2002 16:47:26 -0000 Date: 15 Feb 2002 11:49:17 -0500 Message-Id: From: "Bruce Epstein - Zeus Productions" To: "George Jackson" Cc: majordomo-users@greatcircle.com Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Sender: zeus@imap.iecc.com In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: commands not being recognized Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" X-Archive-Number: 200202/87 X-Sequence-Number: 297 Sorry I don't have an answer for you, but I can confirm that you are correct. I sent some test email to your majordomo server and got the same error, so it isn't pilot error on your part. >Are you sending your commands in plain text? Yes. : Maybe the error message is misleading. Maybe the problem is that, say, you need a password before it will accept commands (although I tried generic commands and not administrative ones). Or maybe there is a flag that prevents majordomo from receiving email commands. Can you find the previous administrator and ask if there is any known problem? Are the lists operating properly or is it possible majordomo crashed or something? I don't know enough about email, but maybe something is munging up the headers on the way through to majordomo. Is there some sort of email forwading going on? Bruce At 10:21 AM -0600 02/15/02, George Jackson wrote: >I've inherited a majordomo installation on our departmental server. Being >new to it I've brushed up on the configuration and read docs and faqs but >am having trouble trying to figure out the following problem: > >Whenever I send commands to majordomo@cs.msstate.edu all I get is > > >**** No valid commands found. >**** Commands must be in message BODY, not in HEADER. > >**** Help for Majordomo@cs.msstate.edu: > > [default help message output then follows] > > >even though I *am* putting commands in the body of the message and not the >subject or header. I'm using sendmail 8.9.10 on a Solaris 7 box. Where >should I be looking to diagnose this issue? > >Thanks, >George From majordomo-users-owner@greatcircle.com Fri Feb 15 08:50:50 2002 Received: from CS.MsState.Edu (walt.cs.msstate.edu [130.18.208.30]) by mycroft.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 518041959E2 for ; Fri, 15 Feb 2002 08:50:49 -0800 (PST) Received: from disney.cs.msstate.edu (disney.cs.msstate.edu [130.18.208.197]); by CS.MsState.Edu (8.10.2+Sun/8.9.3/MsState-CS/evision: 1.3 $) with ESMTP; id g1FGomn09874 for ; Fri, 15 Feb 2002 10:50:48 -0600 (CST) Received: from localhost (gjackson@localhost) by disney.cs.msstate.edu (8.10.2+Sun/8.10.2) with ESMTP id g1FGomD02985 for ; Fri, 15 Feb 2002 10:50:48 -0600 (CST) X-Authentication-Warning: disney.cs.msstate.edu: gjackson owned process doing -bs Date: Fri, 15 Feb 2002 10:50:48 -0600 (CST) From: George Jackson To: Subject: Re: commands not being recognized In-Reply-To: <672B00A685D0D411AF32009027D6385702AE3817@mdfrouter2-eng.concord.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Archive-Number: 200202/88 X-Sequence-Number: 298 Hi, thanks for your reply. Yes, I normally use pine while logged directly on to the server but have also used mail and mailx from the command line to send a help, lists, or who command. I've also tried the same from another host to see if it was a local sendmail problem but get the same thing. On Fri, 15 Feb 2002, LaPorta, Fab wrote: > Are you sending your commands in plain text? > From majordomo-users-owner@greatcircle.com Fri Feb 15 21:14:40 2002 Received: from ourldsfamily.com (ourfam.dsl.xmission.com [198.60.114.90]) by mycroft.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3C065195AA5 for ; Fri, 15 Feb 2002 21:14:36 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (karlp@localhost) by ourldsfamily.com (8.11.0/8.11.0) with ESMTP id g1G5Ecw09129 for ; Fri, 15 Feb 2002 22:14:38 -0700 Date: Fri, 15 Feb 2002 22:14:38 -0700 (MST) From: To: Subject: Re: Visible TO address for users In-Reply-To: <006a01c1b61f$eb20eed0$fa67dcd5@zi0n2k> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: QUOTED-PRINTABLE X-Archive-Number: 200202/89 X-Sequence-Number: 299 I've worked on that USER thing for a bit. The three env vars recognized are $LIST $SENDER and $VERSION. I don't know if it would be possible to add $MEMBER or $USER as an identifier of the actual email address being sent to. Those three variables worked in either the header or footer, which I tested. Having the option of a $USER or $MEMBER would be fantastic. I wonder if it would slow the process down extensively, however... As for the other error, I also sent to majordomo at your site and got the errors. Maybe you should upgrade to MD 1.94.5 from 1.94.4... That might solve the problem for you. -- Karl L. Pearson Senior Consulting Systems Analyst Senior Consulting Database Analyst karlp@ourldsfamily.com My Thoughts on Terrorism In America: http://www.ourldsfamily.com/wtc.shtml On Fri, 15 Feb 2002, Jakob Sigur=F0sson wrote: Hello again. I forgot one thing. It whould be great if i chould append something like this to the bottom of the message: ------------- This message was sent to user@isp.com via list@host.com ------------- Is there a way to do this ? Jacob. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jakob Sigur=F0sson" To: Sent: Friday, February 15, 2002 12:50 PM Subject: Visible TO address for users > Hello. > > I host several large email lists (more than 20.000 subscribers) using > majordomo... Btw. Great piece of software! :-) > We are recieving ALOT of complaints from users that do not want to be on the > list, however it=B4s sometimes very hard to track them down, mostly due to > email forwarding since I cant find there real email addresses in the list. > > Is there a way to show users to what address (not just "To: > somelist@host.com" but the real user email address (user@isp.com)) the > message was really sent in the message header or the body ???? > > Any help will be much appreciated, > > Best regards, > Jakob Sigurdsson > jjswrk@j.is > > > From majordomo-users-owner@greatcircle.com Fri Feb 15 21:29:04 2002 Received: from ourldsfamily.com (ourfam.dsl.xmission.com [198.60.114.90]) by mycroft.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D9251195AA8 for ; Fri, 15 Feb 2002 21:29:02 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (karlp@localhost) by ourldsfamily.com (8.11.0/8.11.0) with ESMTP id g1G5T6e09336 for ; Fri, 15 Feb 2002 22:29:06 -0700 Date: Fri, 15 Feb 2002 22:29:05 -0700 (MST) From: To: Subject: Digest submissions Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Archive-Number: 200202/90 X-Sequence-Number: 300 If someone is on a digest list, should they be able to post to the main, or non-digest list of the same name? -- Karl L. Pearson Senior Consulting Systems Analyst Senior Consulting Database Analyst karlp@ourldsfamily.com My Thoughts on Terrorism In America: http://www.ourldsfamily.com/wtc.shtml From majordomo-users-owner@greatcircle.com Sat Feb 16 04:34:49 2002 Received: from mail.gmx.net (mail.gmx.net [213.165.64.20]) by mycroft.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with SMTP id 5F600195AA5 for ; Sat, 16 Feb 2002 04:34:46 -0800 (PST) Received: (qmail 21039 invoked by uid 0); 16 Feb 2002 12:34:44 -0000 Received: from pd9e30956.dip.t-dialin.net (HELO data) (217.227.9.86) by mail.gmx.net (mp003-rz3) with SMTP; 16 Feb 2002 12:34:44 -0000 Date: Sat, 16 Feb 2002 13:34:35 +0100 To: Majordomo-Users@GreatCircle.COM From: "General P. Fault" Subject: delay test Reply-To: GeneralP.Fault@gmx.net Organization: planet earth X-Mailer: PostMe 2.02 Mime-Version: 1.0 Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Archive-Number: 200202/91 X-Sequence-Number: 301 Sat Feb 16 13:34:25 CET 2002 From majordomo-users-owner@greatcircle.com Sat Feb 16 09:44:16 2002 Received: from mail.gmx.net (mail.gmx.net [213.165.64.20]) by mycroft.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with SMTP id 3BAB0195ABE for ; Sat, 16 Feb 2002 09:44:14 -0800 (PST) Received: (qmail 8303 invoked by uid 0); 16 Feb 2002 17:44:08 -0000 Received: from pd9514493.dip.t-dialin.net (HELO data) (217.81.68.147) by mail.gmx.net (mp015-rz3) with SMTP; 16 Feb 2002 17:44:08 -0000 Date: Sat, 16 Feb 2002 18:43:54 +0100 To: majordomo-users@greatcircle.com From: "General P. Fault" Subject: subscriber adress lookups Reply-To: GeneralP.Fault@gmx.net Organization: planet earth X-Mailer: PostMe 2.02 Mime-Version: 1.0 Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Archive-Number: 200202/92 X-Sequence-Number: 302 is it possible to reject mails where the SMTP envelope sender is not the same as the subscriber's email adress? this could be useful to prevent loops created by certain auto-responders where the message has the subscriber's address in From: but is sent with an empty SMTP envelope sender. From majordomo-users-owner@greatcircle.com Sat Feb 16 16:19:45 2002 Received: from tomts8-srv.bellnexxia.net (tomts8.bellnexxia.net [209.226.175.52]) by mycroft.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 85D56195AFE for ; Sat, 16 Feb 2002 16:19:39 -0800 (PST) Received: from ACER ([65.94.208.111]) by tomts8-srv.bellnexxia.net (InterMail vM.4.01.03.23 201-229-121-123-20010418) with SMTP id <20020217001938.YMJF13561.tomts8-srv.bellnexxia.net@ACER>; Sat, 16 Feb 2002 19:19:38 -0500 Message-Id: <3.0.6.32.20020216090218.007c0700@pop6.sympatico.ca> X-Sender: b1wudu74@pop6.sympatico.ca X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.6 (32) Date: Sat, 16 Feb 2002 09:02:18 -0500 To: Jakob =?iso-8859-1?Q?Sigur=F0sson?= From: Frank Bax Subject: Re: Visible TO address for users Cc: In-Reply-To: <002901c1b61f$593520e0$fa67dcd5@zi0n2k> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Archive-Number: 200202/93 X-Sequence-Number: 303 This should be added to FAQ? At 12:50 PM 2/15/02 -0000, Jakob Sigur=F0sson wrote: >Is there a way to show users to what address (not just "To: >somelist@host.com" but the real user email address (user@isp.com)) the >message was really sent in the message header or the body ???? No. This would require majordomo to contruct and send a separate message for each member of a list. Majordomo is designed to send a single message to mutiple recipents, so they all get identical messages. This type of change would cause dramatic increase is resources to mail a message to list. Frank From majordomo-users-owner@greatcircle.com Sun Feb 17 13:33:55 2002 Received: from xrx-inc.com (mail.xrx-inc.com [12.13.116.226]) by mycroft.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7A452195B43 for ; Sun, 17 Feb 2002 13:33:51 -0800 (PST) Received: (from root@localhost) by xrx-inc.com (8.11.1/8.11.1) id g1HLakl02818 for majordomo-users@greatcircle.com; Sun, 17 Feb 2002 15:36:46 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from timothy) Date: Sun, 17 Feb 2002 15:36:46 -0600 (CST) From: "Dr. Tim" Message-Id: <200202172136.g1HLakl02818@xrx-inc.com> To: majordomo-users@greatcircle.com Subject: Lock Failures X-Archive-Number: 200202/94 X-Sequence-Number: 304 Ok this is getting bad here for me. ALl the info and a PLEA! 1.) Freebsd 4.1, Majordomo 1.94.5 regularly I am getting lock failures from the mj_digest it happens when it is trying to lock the list.config file 2.) when it happens it seems to try 5 times in a row but I may be wrong BUT it causes messages that were posted to list NOT to get put in the list-digest. and my old ladies get PO'ed in a major way it is affecting the companies opinion about keeping the list going. the only affect that I can see if I make majordomo ignore a lock failure is the digest.conifg file may not get updated with the new digest # properly. WE NEVER RECONFIGURE THE LIST. Can a.) anyone help me make the program continue after a lock failure it appears to me I can flag the failures since the code uses &free_lock($lockfile) if $lock_set; die($msg); } it seems to me I can set lock_set to something like -1 or another value and trap the error and NOT die during the &abort call with something like if ($lock_set=1); die($msg) else; so it only dies when lock_set =1 now I don't know perl but I am sure I can figure that code piece out BUT the second issue is does anyone know what SIDE AFFECTS ignoring the lock failure would do? would the program even keep running? it seems that the rest of the code simple still reads the config file and I believe that the abscents of the lock file could mean majordomo could read the same file at the same time. But since we only write back to the digest.config to update the digest number this happens but 3 times a day... anyways. I am desparate as no-one seems to have ANY suggestions as to WHY I am getting so many lock failures (upto 20 a day on a single list) and how to stop this from happening. ONe last piece of info List size = 4000 (subscribers) Digest Size = 6000 (subscribers) it appears that when a message triggers the digest that sendmail then mail out 4000 messages to the list. and 6000 to the digest and DURING that time when the moderator is approving messages the error (lock failures) occur but I am not 100% sure AS the digest doest not have a time stamp and even if I put my address first in the digest list sendmail seems to regroup the address into envelops to similar domains. Thanks Lastly, anyone having trouble with aol.com accepting envelops of 50 receipents and THEN NOT DELIVERING the email to them? Tim From majordomo-users-owner@greatcircle.com Mon Feb 18 04:18:49 2002 Received: from bogerd (bogerd.xs4all.nl [213.84.223.184]) by mycroft.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1C935195AB8 for ; Mon, 18 Feb 2002 04:18:47 -0800 (PST) Received: from port02.bogerd.xs4all.nl (port2 [192.168.100.33]) by bogerd (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA05855 for ; Mon, 18 Feb 2002 13:18:46 +0100 Message-Id: <5.1.0.14.2.20020218131727.00ace498@localhost> X-Sender: ron/213.84.223.184@localhost X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Mon, 18 Feb 2002 13:18:45 +0100 To: majordomo-users@greatcircle.com From: Ron Bogerd Subject: just a question .. Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed X-Archive-Number: 200202/95 X-Sequence-Number: 305 What can I do so this errormessage won't appear again ??? MAJORDOMO ABORT (mj_majordomo)!! majordomo@biblioamersfoort.nl punting to avoid mail loop. From majordomo-users-owner@greatcircle.com Mon Feb 18 07:10:04 2002 Received: from saturn.syslang.net (146-115-228-77.c3-0.frm-ubr1.sbo-frm.ma.cable.rcn.com [146.115.228.77]) by mycroft.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6FE1F1959E6 for ; Mon, 18 Feb 2002 07:10:02 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (steveo@localhost) by saturn.syslang.net (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g1IF9sE27894; Mon, 18 Feb 2002 10:09:55 -0500 Date: Mon, 18 Feb 2002 10:09:54 -0500 (EST) From: "Steven W. Orr" To: Ron Bogerd Cc: majordomo-users@greatcircle.com Subject: Re: just a question .. In-Reply-To: <5.1.0.14.2.20020218131727.00ace498@localhost> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Archive-Number: 200202/96 X-Sequence-Number: 306 On Mon, 18 Feb 2002, Ron Bogerd wrote: =>What can I do so this errormessage won't appear again ??? => =>MAJORDOMO ABORT (mj_majordomo)!! => =>majordomo@biblioamersfoort.nl punting to avoid mail loop. Sheesh! I aske dthis question a week ago and AFAICT the message never even made it to the list. I'd really like to know why. :-( The answer to the question is to look at your /etc/majordomo.cf The line that says $whoami should be set like this: $whoami = 'majordomo@' . $whereami; Can all of the rest of you see this? :-( -- -Time flies like the wind. Fruit flies like a banana. Stranger things have - -happened but none stranger than this. Does your driver's license say Organ -Donor?Black holes are where God divided by zero. Listen to me! We are all- -individuals! What if this weren't a hypothetical question? steveo@syslang.net From majordomo-users-owner@greatcircle.com Mon Feb 18 08:42:26 2002 Received: from pali.cps.cmich.edu (pali.cps.cmich.edu [141.209.131.81]) by mycroft.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C1B851959F1 for ; Mon, 18 Feb 2002 08:42:14 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (ishwar@localhost) by pali.cps.cmich.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g1IGt0P29889 for ; Mon, 18 Feb 2002 11:55:00 -0500 Date: Mon, 18 Feb 2002 11:55:00 -0500 (EST) From: Ish Rattan To: Subject: Re: just a question .. In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Archive-Number: 200202/97 X-Sequence-Number: 307 On Mon, 18 Feb 2002, Steven W. Orr wrote: > > Can all of the rest of you see this? :-( Yes. - ishwar From majordomo-users-owner@greatcircle.com Tue Feb 19 10:57:22 2002 Received: from ourldsfamily.com (ourfam.dsl.xmission.com [198.60.114.90]) by mycroft.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E3841195BDE for ; Tue, 19 Feb 2002 10:57:20 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (karlp@localhost) by ourldsfamily.com (8.11.0/8.11.0) with ESMTP id g1JIvNj03491 for ; Tue, 19 Feb 2002 11:57:23 -0700 Date: Tue, 19 Feb 2002 11:57:22 -0700 (MST) From: To: Subject: restrict_post and digest members Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Archive-Number: 200202/98 X-Sequence-Number: 308 I wrote a few days ago and got some suggestions about how to allow digest members to post to an email group. I added filenames, which works for the list, to restrict_post. The list I did this to fell down and wouldn't allow members to post. The syntax I used is: restrict_post = listname, listname-digest It bounced the emails back with the error mj_resend file /path/to/md/lists/listname not found. Of course listname is found and the permissions are the same as when it was working. I removed , listname-digest from the config file and now it's working again, except the digest members can't post to the list as before. Thanks for any thoughts you have. -- Karl L. Pearson Senior Consulting Systems Analyst Senior Consulting Database Analyst karlp@ourldsfamily.com My Thoughts on Terrorism In America: http://www.ourldsfamily.com/wtc.shtml From majordomo-users-owner@greatcircle.com Wed Feb 20 04:59:09 2002 Received: from portal.packetstorm.org (unknown [206.157.2.6]) by mycroft.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 51371195C63 for ; Wed, 20 Feb 2002 04:59:07 -0800 (PST) Received: from portal (portal [206.157.2.6]) by portal.packetstorm.org (8.12.1/8.12.1) with ESMTP id g1KDHlAL014232 for ; Wed, 20 Feb 2002 07:17:47 -0600 (CST) Date: Wed, 20 Feb 2002 07:17:47 -0600 (CST) From: mdomlst X-X-Sender: mdomlst@portal To: majordomo-users@greatcircle.com Subject: configuring a list for one way distribution only? Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Archive-Number: 200202/99 X-Sequence-Number: 309 I am trying to create another list on our majordomo system that works the following way: 1. the lists/distro-list file is generated by an x500 process daily (done) 2. commands to the list are bounced to the list owner and never processed by majordomo. But the list owner can then read the mail and notify the user that this list does not work in this manner. 3. The reply address is to the majordomo list owner only (keeps people from reply-all message storming. This list is huge) 4. messages to the list are allowed from only a single address 5. the list goes inactive during certain times of the day so not to conflict with other processes (done via multiple alias files already) This isnt a spam list but a requirement for the company I work for to provide a one-way messaging mechanism to notify people of outages, security patches etc. Since the list is automagically updated daily from our directory service, list commands are not necessary and would only add to the confusion and maintenance. I figured since we are already using majordomo for large subscriber lists something like this would not be hard to do and we could keep the process of handling it under the same program set. Also i would have used pop bulletins but the accounts are not on this system but on a series of exchange servers. So far im testing it out on a dev box and finding that i cant block commands. Heres the config OS : Solaris 7 Sparc MTA : Sendmail 8.12.2 running smrsh Majordomo : 1.94.5 majordomo.aliases file ---------------------- majordomo: "|/usr/local/majordomo/wrapper majordomo" owner-majordomo: me@co.com, majordomo-owner: me@co.com testlist: :include:/usr/local/majordomo/lists/testlist owner-testlist: me@co.com, testlist-request: "|/usr/local/majordomo/wrapper request-answer testlist" testlist-approval: me@co.com the list file ------------------ lists/testlist me@co.com majordomo testlist.config(changes from default) ------------------------- admin_passwd = ******* approve_passwd = ****** get_access = closed index_access = closed info_access = closed intro_access = closed moderate = yes reply_to = co_announce resend_host = co_host restrict_post = me@co.com subscribe_policy = closed unsubscribe_policy = closed welcome = no which_access = closed who_access = closed First off i can send subscribe commands to the list and they get bounced to the list owner (me in this case). That is good. Ok now the problems: 1. I can send a command to majordomo for the list but supply a bad command, this gets sent back to the sender as well as me. Id rather any such messages just be sent to me. 2. I can still unsubscribe from the list, it completely ignores the unsubscribe_policy setting. Im stuck in testing on this one currently. If anyone can help me set this up like i need it that would be great! Thanks Greg From majordomo-users-owner@greatcircle.com Wed Feb 20 13:14:01 2002 Received: from smtp03.exodus.net (smtp03.exodus.net [216.34.163.233]) by mycroft.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5A2F3195C96 for ; Wed, 20 Feb 2002 13:14:00 -0800 (PST) Received: from vintagebronco.com (www.vintagebronco.com [216.34.65.40]) by smtp03.exodus.net (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g1KLB3B32687 for ; Wed, 20 Feb 2002 15:11:04 -0600 Received: from SHANNONSHIRKT20 [199.72.56.249] by vintagebronco.com with ESMTP (SMTPD32-6.06) id A04223E1006E; Wed, 20 Feb 2002 13:08:18 -0800 Message-ID: <007e01c1ba53$831aad20$4002650a@etlnet.com> From: "Shannon Shirk" To: Subject: Newbie to list and question Date: Wed, 20 Feb 2002 16:13:57 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-Mimeole: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 X-Archive-Number: 200202/100 X-Sequence-Number: 310 Hello all, New to the list and I wanted to say hello. I run www.bronco.com and the associated mailing lists using Majordomo. I have run into a really weird problem and I need some help. I searched through the archives to no avail. I have 8 lists currently on the system. 7 of them are still running fine. One (the EBML) just quit working all of the sudden. I can do admin stuff to the list via web or email interface, I can pull the config files, etc., but no mail will post to the list. I do not receive any kind of error reply back from posting, mail to the list addy just seems to dissappear. I created a backup list at ebml2, with the same config files and user list, but the same thing is happening, I received the welcome message after subscribing to the list, but no one can post (at least it does not get distributed to the list). Any ideas? I am using Majordomo 2, version 0.1200104070 and sendmail on a BSDI box. Thanks, Shannon From majordomo-users-owner@greatcircle.com Wed Feb 20 22:15:56 2002 Received: from arm.mrball.net (mrball.net [209.85.130.137]) by mycroft.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A55E21959E4 for ; Wed, 20 Feb 2002 22:15:53 -0800 (PST) Received: from todd.mrball.net (todd.mrball.net [192.168.18.3]) by arm.mrball.net (8.11.2/8.11.2) with ESMTP id g1L6FtY14251 for ; Wed, 20 Feb 2002 22:15:55 -0800 Received: (from todd@localhost) by todd.mrball.net (8.12.0.Beta7/8.12.0.Beta7) id g1L6FlWu032741 for Majordomo-users@greatcircle.com; Wed, 20 Feb 2002 22:15:47 -0800 Date: Wed, 20 Feb 2002 22:15:47 -0800 From: Todd Lyons To: Majordomo-users@greatcircle.com Subject: Re: Visible TO address for users Message-ID: <20020220221547.D32442@mrball.net> Mail-Followup-To: Majordomo-users@greatcircle.com References: <006a01c1b61f$eb20eed0$fa67dcd5@zi0n2k> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: ; from karlp@ourldsfamily.com on Fri, Feb 15, 2002 at 10:14:38PM -0700 X-Archive-Number: 200202/101 X-Sequence-Number: 311 karlp@ourldsfamily.com wanted us to know: >I've worked on that USER thing for a bit. The three env vars recognized are >$LIST $SENDER and $VERSION. I don't know if it would be possible to add >$MEMBER or $USER as an identifier of the actual email address being sent to. >Those three variables worked in either the header or footer, which I tested. >Having the option of a $USER or $MEMBER would be fantastic. I wonder if it >would slow the process down extensively, however... No, the current implementation sends a single message to an email alias that your mail server expands out to the list of email addresses (or bulk mailer breaks up for you). In both cases, majordomo has no notion of who the final list of email recipients are. It is just sending it to one email address that is defined on your mail server. Yes it would slow the process down a little, but not too much (unless you've got 50K user lists). -- Blue skies... Todd | Get a bigger hammer! | Security is like an onion. It's made | | http://www.mrball.net | up of several layers and makes you cry. | | http://faq.mrball.net | --Howard Chu | From majordomo-users-owner@greatcircle.com Wed Feb 20 22:18:20 2002 Received: from arm.mrball.net (mrball.net [209.85.130.137]) by mycroft.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4855B1959E4 for ; Wed, 20 Feb 2002 22:18:19 -0800 (PST) Received: from todd.mrball.net (todd.mrball.net [192.168.18.3]) by arm.mrball.net (8.11.2/8.11.2) with ESMTP id g1L6IKY14264 for ; Wed, 20 Feb 2002 22:18:20 -0800 Received: (from todd@localhost) by todd.mrball.net (8.12.0.Beta7/8.12.0.Beta7) id g1L6IDpR032767 for Majordomo-users@greatcircle.com; Wed, 20 Feb 2002 22:18:13 -0800 Date: Wed, 20 Feb 2002 22:18:13 -0800 From: Todd Lyons To: Majordomo-users@greatcircle.com Subject: Re: Digest submissions Message-ID: <20020220221813.E32442@mrball.net> Mail-Followup-To: Majordomo-users@greatcircle.com References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: ; from karlp@ourldsfamily.com on Fri, Feb 15, 2002 at 10:29:05PM -0700 X-Archive-Number: 200202/102 X-Sequence-Number: 312 karlp@ourldsfamily.com wanted us to know: >If someone is on a digest list, should they be able to post to the main, or >non-digest list of the same name? We have it configured such that if you post to the digest accidentally, it will go to the list. Quoting the alias file: cerritoslug-digest: cerritoslug -- Blue skies... Todd | Get a bigger hammer! | Security is like an onion. It's made | | http://www.mrball.net | up of several layers and makes you cry. | | http://faq.mrball.net | --Howard Chu | From majordomo-users-owner@greatcircle.com Wed Feb 20 22:20:12 2002 Received: from arm.mrball.net (mrball.net [209.85.130.137]) by mycroft.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6747C195AAF for ; Wed, 20 Feb 2002 22:20:11 -0800 (PST) Received: from todd.mrball.net (todd.mrball.net [192.168.18.3]) by arm.mrball.net (8.11.2/8.11.2) with ESMTP id g1L6KDY14270 for ; Wed, 20 Feb 2002 22:20:13 -0800 Received: (from todd@localhost) by todd.mrball.net (8.12.0.Beta7/8.12.0.Beta7) id g1L6K5ce000306 for majordomo-users@greatcircle.com; Wed, 20 Feb 2002 22:20:05 -0800 Date: Wed, 20 Feb 2002 22:20:05 -0800 From: Todd Lyons To: majordomo-users@greatcircle.com Subject: Re: Newbie to list and question Message-ID: <20020220222005.F32442@mrball.net> Mail-Followup-To: majordomo-users@greatcircle.com References: <007e01c1ba53$831aad20$4002650a@etlnet.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <007e01c1ba53$831aad20$4002650a@etlnet.com>; from shannon@vintagebronco.com on Wed, Feb 20, 2002 at 04:13:57PM -0500 X-Archive-Number: 200202/103 X-Sequence-Number: 313 Shannon Shirk wanted us to know: >from posting, mail to the list addy just seems to dissappear. I created a >backup list at ebml2, with the same config files and user list, but the same >thing is happening, I received the welcome message after subscribing to the >list, but no one can post (at least it does not get distributed to the >list). Post relevant mail logs. -- Blue skies... Todd | Get a bigger hammer! | Security is like an onion. It's made | | http://www.mrball.net | up of several layers and makes you cry. | | http://faq.mrball.net | --Howard Chu | From majordomo-users-owner@greatcircle.com Wed Feb 20 23:05:39 2002 Received: from daniel.sonny.org (58-25.siocpe.cableone.net [24.116.58.25]) by mycroft.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9D33E195AB7 for ; Wed, 20 Feb 2002 23:05:38 -0800 (PST) Received: from sonny.org (slip-12-64-78-101.mis.prserv.net [12.64.78.101]) by daniel.sonny.org (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.1 (built Apr 10 2001)) with ESMTPA id <0GRV000HBFPDZH@daniel.sonny.org> for majordomo-users@greatcircle.com; Thu, 21 Feb 2002 01:05:40 -0600 (CST) Date: Wed, 20 Feb 2002 21:05:37 -1000 From: Daniel Liston Subject: Re: List of commands To: Martin =?iso-8859-1?Q?Skj=F6ldebrand?= Cc: Majordomo List Reply-To: Dan.Liston@sun.com Message-id: <3C749C41.DCDA323F@sonny.org> Organization: Sun Microsystems MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.77 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 8BIT X-Accept-Language: en References: <1013491973.14382.2.camel@skjoldebrand.dyndns.org> X-Archive-Number: 200202/104 X-Sequence-Number: 314 Try viewing the list-owner-info file in the majordomo/docs directory. Dan Liston Martin Skjöldebrand wrote: > > Hi, > > Can I find a list of commands you can send to a majordomo server > somewhere? It should document all commands like "default" and "password" > and such. Yes, I know I can mail the server with "help" but I'd prefer a > complete list rather than sending off umpteen emails. From majordomo-users-owner@greatcircle.com Wed Feb 20 23:09:47 2002 Received: from daniel.sonny.org (58-25.siocpe.cableone.net [24.116.58.25]) by mycroft.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4A13E195AB7 for ; Wed, 20 Feb 2002 23:09:45 -0800 (PST) Received: from sonny.org (slip-12-64-78-101.mis.prserv.net [12.64.78.101]) by daniel.sonny.org (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.1 (built Apr 10 2001)) with ESMTPA id <0GRV000HFFWDZP@daniel.sonny.org> for majordomo-users@greatcircle.com; Thu, 21 Feb 2002 01:09:52 -0600 (CST) Date: Wed, 20 Feb 2002 21:09:48 -1000 From: Daniel Liston Subject: Re: To: chris@synergypoint.net Cc: majordomo-users@greatcircle.com Reply-To: Dan.Liston@sun.com Message-id: <3C749D3C.5EBE2077@sonny.org> Organization: Sun Microsystems MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.77 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-Accept-Language: en References: X-Archive-Number: 200202/105 X-Sequence-Number: 315 Make sure none of the following directories are "GROUP" writable / /usr /usr/local /usr/local/majordomo /usr/local/majordomo/lists Dan Liston Chris Young wrote: > > ******************************************************************* > The original message was received at Tue, 12 Feb 2002 11:44:42 -0500 (EST) > from majordom@localhost > ----- The following addresses had permanent fatal errors ----- > :include:/usr/local/majordomo/lists/enc > (expanded from: enc-outgoing) > ----- Transcript of session follows ----- > 550 5.2.4 :include:/usr/local/majordomo/lists/enc... Cannot open > /usr/local/majordomo/lists/enc: Group writable directory > Message delivered to mailing list enc-outgoing > ******************************************************************* > > Any idea why I get this error? > > As I said I can write to the lists directory and can go as far as > successfully subscribing to a list. I just can't post to the list. > > Thanks. > > Chris Young > Synergy Point From majordomo-users-owner@greatcircle.com Wed Feb 20 23:18:40 2002 Received: from daniel.sonny.org (58-25.siocpe.cableone.net [24.116.58.25]) by mycroft.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 94F3E195CD7 for ; Wed, 20 Feb 2002 23:18:39 -0800 (PST) Received: from sonny.org (slip-12-64-78-101.mis.prserv.net [12.64.78.101]) by daniel.sonny.org (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.1 (built Apr 10 2001)) with ESMTPA id <0GRV001HOGB72O@daniel.sonny.org> for Majordomo-Users@GreatCircle.COM; Thu, 21 Feb 2002 01:18:46 -0600 (CST) Date: Wed, 20 Feb 2002 21:18:43 -1000 From: Daniel Liston Subject: Re: precedence: bulk in body of message? To: Tige Richardson Cc: Majordomo-Users@GreatCircle.COM Reply-To: Dan.Liston@sun.com Message-id: <3C749F53.78A2665E@sonny.org> Organization: Sun Microsystems MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.77 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-Accept-Language: en References: <3C695A5F.9060905@clarent.com> X-Archive-Number: 200202/106 X-Sequence-Number: 316 It would be my first guess that instead of defining $whereami with static information in your /etc/majordomo.cf file, you have something like this; $whereami = `/bin/dnsdomainname`; Using a command where a value should be, introduces CrLf to the end of the value, which ends up introducing blank lines into headers, which in turn are interpreted as the end of the headers and the beginning of the body of the message. Change your majordomo.cf so that; $whereami = "hostname.yourdomain.tld"; Dan Liston Tige Richardson wrote: > > Hello, > > I am having a peculiar problem. I have searched google.groups.com and > did not find an answer so I am hoping someone here is willing to help > point me to some specific documentation or a configuration file where I > can fix this. > > For some reason every time a message is mailed to one of our majordomo > aliases the following appears in the body instead of the header: > > Precedence: bulk > > I found this in the .config file for the aliases in question, but it > should be a part of the header and not the body. Can anyone tell me how > to fix this? > > I am running: > > RedHat Linux 2.4.2-2 > Majordomo v1.94.5 > perl-5.6.0-12 > Postfix 20010202-4 > cyrus-imapd-2.0.9-3 > > Thanks in advance for any help! > > Tige From majordomo-users-owner@greatcircle.com Thu Feb 21 03:08:06 2002 Received: from morpheus.tristan.is (ns1.tristan.is [194.105.235.10]) by mycroft.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 41982195AD1 for ; Thu, 21 Feb 2002 03:08:04 -0800 (PST) Received: from zi0n2k (apoc.goprogroup.com [213.220.103.250]) by morpheus.tristan.is (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id g1LB82w16396 for ; Thu, 21 Feb 2002 11:08:03 GMT Message-ID: <000901c1bac8$07ec0b60$fa67dcd5@zi0n2k> From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Jakob_Sigur=F0sson?= To: References: <006a01c1b61f$eb20eed0$fa67dcd5@zi0n2k> <20020220221547.D32442@mrball.net> Subject: Re: Visible TO address for users Date: Thu, 21 Feb 2002 11:08:02 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 X-Archive-Number: 200202/107 X-Sequence-Number: 317 Thanks for your replies people. So, Majordomo just dumps the message onto the alias and Sendmail takes care of the rest? Then this must be a sendmail problem: ----- Transcript of session follows ----- ... while talking to mx1.isl.is.: >>> RCPT To: <<< 452 4.5.3 Too many recipients otrar@isl.is... Deferred: 452 4.5.3 Too many recipients >>> RCPT To: <<< 452 4.5.3 Too many recipients oskark@isl.is... Deferred: 452 4.5.3 Too many recipients >>> RCPT To: <<< 452 4.5.3 Too many recipients oops@isl.is... Deferred: 452 4.5.3 Too many recipients >>> RCPT To: <<< 452 4.5.3 Too many recipients The list of "Too many recipients" errors goes on and on... [root@morpheus majordomo]# grep isl.is lists/uppskriftir-listi | wc -l 323 Never the less, does anyone know how I can fix this ? Ie. not send all the emails to isl.is users in one envelope to mx1.isl.is ? Best regards, Jacob Sigurdsson j@j.is ----- Original Message ----- From: "Todd Lyons" To: Sent: Thursday, February 21, 2002 6:15 AM Subject: Re: Visible TO address for users > karlp@ourldsfamily.com wanted us to know: > > >I've worked on that USER thing for a bit. The three env vars recognized are > >$LIST $SENDER and $VERSION. I don't know if it would be possible to add > >$MEMBER or $USER as an identifier of the actual email address being sent to. > >Those three variables worked in either the header or footer, which I tested. > >Having the option of a $USER or $MEMBER would be fantastic. I wonder if it > >would slow the process down extensively, however... > > No, the current implementation sends a single message to an email alias > that your mail server expands out to the list of email addresses (or > bulk mailer breaks up for you). In both cases, majordomo has no notion > of who the final list of email recipients are. It is just sending it to > one email address that is defined on your mail server. > > Yes it would slow the process down a little, but not too much (unless > you've got 50K user lists). > -- > Blue skies... Todd > | Get a bigger hammer! | Security is like an onion. It's made | > | http://www.mrball.net | up of several layers and makes you cry. | > | http://faq.mrball.net | --Howard Chu | > From majordomo-users-owner@greatcircle.com Thu Feb 21 07:57:28 2002 Received: from smoe.org (jane.smoe.org [66.89.201.78]) by mycroft.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3316A195CBD for ; Thu, 21 Feb 2002 07:57:26 -0800 (PST) Received: from smoe.org (ident-user@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by smoe.org (8.12.2/8.12.2) with ESMTP id g1LFvNkm023929; Thu, 21 Feb 2002 10:57:23 -0500 (EST) Received: (from jeffw@localhost) by smoe.org (8.12.2/8.12.2/Submit) id g1LFvMYl023923; Thu, 21 Feb 2002 10:57:22 -0500 (EST) Date: Thu, 21 Feb 2002 10:57:22 -0500 From: Jeff Wasilko To: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Jakob_Sigur=F0sson?= Cc: Majordomo-users@greatcircle.com Subject: Re: Visible TO address for users Message-ID: <20020221105722.A23858@jane.smoe.org> Mail-Followup-To: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Jakob_Sigur=F0sson?= , Majordomo-users@greatcircle.com References: <006a01c1b61f$eb20eed0$fa67dcd5@zi0n2k> <20020220221547.D32442@mrball.net> <000901c1bac8$07ec0b60$fa67dcd5@zi0n2k> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: =?iso-8859-1?Q?=3C000901c1bac8$07ec0b60$fa67dcd5=40zi0n2k=3E=3B_from_=22?= =?iso-8859-1?Q?Jakob_Sigur=F0sson=22_on_Thu=2C_Feb_21=2C_2002_at_11:08:0?= =?iso-8859-1?Q?2AM_-0000?= X-Archive-Number: 200202/108 X-Sequence-Number: 318 On Thu, Feb 21, 2002 at 11:08:02AM -0000, Jakob Siguršsson wrote: > Thanks for your replies people. > > So, Majordomo just dumps the message onto the alias and Sendmail takes care > of the rest? > Then this must be a sendmail problem: > > [root@morpheus majordomo]# grep isl.is lists/uppskriftir-listi | wc -l > 323 > > Never the less, does anyone know how I can fix this ? Ie. not send all the > emails to isl.is users in one envelope to mx1.isl.is ? If you upgrade to sendmail 8.12.2, you can set the max # of recipients on a per domain. In earlier versions, you could add r=50 or r=30 to your mailer definitions to limit all envelopes to that size. If you wanna upgrade to 8.12.x, feel free to use my .mc file as a starting point. However, there seems to be a bug in sendmail that causes mail to get stuck in the domain specific queues occasionally. The bug is easily worked around (just force a queue run occasionally), and I'm working with the sendmail developers to find a fix. Check out http://www.sendmail.org/~ca/email/doc8.12/TUNING for more info on the new queue group features. Here's my .mc file: divert(-1) # # Copyright (c) 1998, 1999, 2001 Sendmail, Inc. and its suppliers. # All rights reserved. # Copyright (c) 1983 Eric P. Allman. All rights reserved. # Copyright (c) 1988, 1993 # The Regents of the University of California. All rights reserved. # # By using this file, you agree to the terms and conditions set # forth in the LICENSE file which can be found at the top level of # the sendmail distribution. # # # # This is a generic configuration file for SunOS 5.x (a.k.a. Solaris 2.x # and Solaris 7 through the present version). # # It has support for local and SMTP mail only. If you want to # customize it, copy it to a name appropriate for your environment # and do the modifications there. # divert(0)dnl VERSIONID(`$Id: generic-solaris.mc,v 8.13 2001/06/27 21:46:30 gshapiro Exp $') OSTYPE(solaris2)dnl DOMAIN(generic)dnl define(`confTO_QUEUERETURN', 5d) define(`confTO_QUEUEWARN', 4h) define(`confTO_ICONNECT', `10s') define(`confQUEUE_LA', 8) define(`confREFUSE_LA', 12) define(`confMAX_DAEMON_CHILDREN', 0) define(`confCONNECTION_RATE_THROTTLE', 10) define(`confFORWARD_PATH', `/var/forward/$u') define(`confQUEUE_FILE_MODE', `0644') define(`confME_TOO', True) define(`confPRIVACY_FLAGS', `goaway') define(`confSPLIT_ACROSS_QUEUEGROUPS', `True') define(`confFALLBACK_MX',`outpost.smoe.org') FEATURE(`use_ct_file') FEATURE(`use_cw_file') FEATURE(`access_db') FEATURE(`virtusertable') define(`QUEUE_DIR', `/var/spool/mqueue')dnl QUEUE_GROUP(`remote', `P=/var/spool/mqueue/remote, F=f, I=1m, R=12, r=5')dnl QUEUE_GROUP(`slow', `P=QUEUE_DIR/slow, F=f, I=1m, R=12, r=32')dnl QUEUE_GROUP(`aol', `P=QUEUE_DIR/aol, F=f, I=1m, R=12, r=15')dnl QUEUE_GROUP(`hotmail', `P=QUEUE_DIR/hotmail, F=f, I=1m, R=12, r=32')dnl QUEUE_GROUP(`yahoo', `P=QUEUE_DIR/yahoo, F=f, I=1m, R=12, r=32')dnl QUEUE_GROUP(`rr', `P=QUEUE_DIR/rr, F=f, I=1m, R=12, r=32')dnl QUEUE_GROUP(`mspring', `P=QUEUE_DIR/mspring, F=f, I=1m, R=12, r=32')dnl QUEUE_GROUP(`attbi', `P=QUEUE_DIR/attbi, F=f, I=1m, R=12, r=32')dnl QUEUE_GROUP(`worldnet', `P=QUEUE_DIR/worldnet, F=f, I=1m, R=12, r=32')dnl QUEUE_GROUP(`netaxs', `P=QUEUE_DIR/netaxs, F=f, I=1m, R=12, r=32')dnl QUEUE_GROUP(`earthlink', `P=QUEUE_DIR/earthlink, F=f, I=1m, R=12, r=32')dnl QUEUE_GROUP(`webtv', `P=QUEUE_DIR/webtv, F=f, I=1m, R=12, r=32')dnl MAILER(local)dnl MAILER(smtp)dnl LOCAL_CONFIG Koutgoing regex -a@MATCH \-outgoing$ HSubject: $>CheckSubject LOCAL_RULESETS SCheckSubject Rnew photos from my party! $#discard $: discard SLocal_check_rcpt # kill attempts to send directly to majordomo's -outgoing aliases R$* $:$&{client_addr}<>$1 R127.0.0.1<>$* $@ LOCALMAILISOK R$*<>$* $:$2 R$* $: <> $>Parse0 $>3 $1 R <> $+ < @ $=w . > $: $(outgoing $1 $) R <> < @ $=w . > : $+ $: $(outgoing $2 $) R <> $* < @ $* > $* $: NOMATCH R <> $+ $: $(outgoing $1 $) R@MATCH $#error $: 550 Do not use -outgoing address Squeuegroup R<$+> $1 R$* @ $* aol.com $# aol R$* @ $* cs.com $# aol R$* @ $* hotmail.com $# hotmail R$* @ $* yahoo.com $# yahoo R$* @ $* rr.com $# rr R$* @ $* mindspring.com $# mspring R$* @ $* attbi.com $# attbi R$* @ $* worldnet.att.com $# worldnet R$* @ $* netaxs.com $# netaxs R$* @ $* earthlink.net $# earthlink R$* @ $* webtv.net $# webtv R$* @ $* $# remote R$* $# mqueue From majordomo-users-owner@greatcircle.com Thu Feb 21 10:59:28 2002 Received: from mailgate.pit.comms.marconi.com (mailgate.pit.comms.marconi.com [169.144.68.6]) by mycroft.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5E45B195AE5 for ; Thu, 21 Feb 2002 10:59:27 -0800 (PST) Received: from mailman.pit.comms.marconi.com (mailman.pit.comms.marconi.com [169.144.2.12]) by mailgate.pit.comms.marconi.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA28874 for ; Thu, 21 Feb 2002 13:59:25 -0500 (EST) Received: from whq-msgrtr-01.pit.comms.marconi.com (whq-msgrtr-01.pit.comms.marconi.com [169.144.2.221]) by mailman.pit.comms.marconi.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA11112 for ; Thu, 21 Feb 2002 13:59:26 -0500 (EST) Received: by whq-msgrtr-01.pit.comms.marconi.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) id ; Thu, 21 Feb 2002 13:59:25 -0500 Message-ID: <1DE644007776D3119FAC00204840ECF409665FA7@whq-msgusr-03.pit.comms.marconi.com> From: "Franco, Dan" To: "'majordomo-users@greatcircle.com'" Subject: Policy ignored? Date: Thu, 21 Feb 2002 13:59:24 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" X-Archive-Number: 200202/109 X-Sequence-Number: 319 Hi, I run the majodomo server at my company. The problem I have is that even when the uns*bscribe policy is set to closed on a particular list, users can still uns*bscribe at will. I'm running Majordomo 1.94.5 on Solaris 8 with Perl version 5.005_03 and Sendmail 8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3. Any help? Thanks in advance, Dan Dan Franco Marconi Unix Systems Administrator 3000 Marconi Drive Warrendale, PA 15086, USA (724) 742-7685 This e-mail and any attachments are confidential. If you are not the intended recipient, please notify us immediately by reply e-mail and then delete this message from your system. Do not copy this e-mail or any attachment, use the contents for any purposes, or disclose the contents to any other person: to do so could be a breach of confidence. From majordomo-users-owner@greatcircle.com Thu Feb 21 12:07:35 2002 Received: from mailgate.pit.comms.marconi.com (mailgate.pit.comms.marconi.com [169.144.68.6]) by mycroft.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6B6E2195CBF for ; Thu, 21 Feb 2002 12:07:33 -0800 (PST) Received: from mailman.pit.comms.marconi.com (mailman.pit.comms.marconi.com [169.144.2.12]) by mailgate.pit.comms.marconi.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA05970 for ; Thu, 21 Feb 2002 15:07:30 -0500 (EST) Received: from whq-msgrtr-01.pit.comms.marconi.com (whq-msgrtr-01.pit.comms.marconi.com [169.144.2.221]) by mailman.pit.comms.marconi.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA26292 for ; Thu, 21 Feb 2002 15:07:30 -0500 (EST) Received: by whq-msgrtr-01.pit.comms.marconi.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) id ; Thu, 21 Feb 2002 15:07:30 -0500 Message-ID: <1DE644007776D3119FAC00204840ECF409665FAA@whq-msgusr-03.pit.comms.marconi.com> From: "Franco, Dan" To: "'majordomo-users@greatcircle.com'" Subject: Re: Policy ignored? Date: Thu, 21 Feb 2002 15:07:28 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" X-Archive-Number: 200202/110 X-Sequence-Number: 320 Thanks for your reply. I apologize for not seeing your other statement, but I just joined the list. Regarding the statement you made about the policy, I don't believe that is the case. According to the config file, regarding uns*bscribe policy, "Closed requires maintainer approval for all uns*bscribe requests to the list." In fact, it worked this way on an old implementation of Majordomo on an old server at my company. When a user tried to uns*bscribe from a list and the uns*ubscribe policy was set to closed, the list owner had to approve it. We use the Majorcool web interface, so it's pretty hard to prevent users from trying to get off a list. Personally, I don't care whether or not someone uns*bscribes to a list, but certain list owners do not want their users to be able to get off a list (e.g., all sales people must be on the sales list, as per the VP of sales, etc.). Since this was the case on the old majordomo server, they expect it to be so on the new one. So, does anyone know what my problem is? Thanks, Dan Dan Franco Marconi Unix Systems Administrator 3000 Marconi Drive Warrendale, PA 15086, USA (724) 742-7685 > -----Original Message----- > From: Bruce Epstein - Zeus Productions [mailto:bruce@zeusprod.com] > Sent: Thursday, February 21, 2002 2:31 PM > To: Franco, Dan > Cc: 'majordomo-users@greatcircle.com' > Subject: Re: Policy ignored? > > > As I wrote the other day, that policy probably just keeps a > third-party from unsubscribing someone. It doesn't prevent a > user from unsubscribing himself. If you never tell them how > (by supressing the welcome message, for example), most people > won't know how to unsubscribe. > > Why don't you want to let the unsubscribe? > > Bruce > > > At 01:59 PM -0500 02/21/02, Franco, Dan wrote: > >Hi, > > > >I run the majodomo server at my company. The problem I have > is that even > >when the uns*bscribe policy is set to closed on a particular > list, users can > >still uns*bscribe at will. I'm running Majordomo 1.94.5 on > Solaris 8 with > >Perl version 5.005_03 and Sendmail 8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3. Any help? > > > >Thanks in advance, > >Dan > > > >Dan Franco > >Marconi Unix Systems Administrator > >3000 Marconi Drive > >Warrendale, PA 15086, USA > >(724) 742-7685 > > > > > > > >This e-mail and any attachments are confidential. If you are not the > >intended recipient, please notify us immediately by reply > e-mail and then > >delete this message from your system. Do not copy this e-mail or any > >attachment, use the contents for any purposes, or disclose > the contents to > >any other person: to do so could be a breach of confidence. > This e-mail and any attachments are confidential. If you are not the intended recipient, please notify us immediately by reply e-mail and then delete this message from your system. Do not copy this e-mail or any attachment, use the contents for any purposes, or disclose the contents to any other person: to do so could be a breach of confidence. From majordomo-users-owner@greatcircle.com Thu Feb 21 12:54:13 2002 Received: from cloud.ccsf.cc.ca.us (cloud.ccsf.cc.ca.us [147.144.1.212]) by mycroft.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id EFBB2195CC2 for ; Thu, 21 Feb 2002 12:53:25 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (jjah@localhost) by cloud.ccsf.cc.ca.us (8.11.6/8.10.1) with SMTP id g1LKrG628957; Thu, 21 Feb 2002 12:53:16 -0800 (PST) Date: Thu, 21 Feb 2002 12:53:16 -0800 (PST) From: "Joe R. Jah" To: "Franco, Dan" Cc: "'majordomo-users@greatcircle.com'" Subject: Re: Policy ignored? In-Reply-To: <1DE644007776D3119FAC00204840ECF409665FA7@whq-msgusr-03.pit.comms.marconi.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Archive-Number: 200202/111 X-Sequence-Number: 321 On Thu, 21 Feb 2002, Franco, Dan wrote: > Date: Thu, 21 Feb 2002 13:59:24 -0500 > From: "Franco, Dan" > To: "'majordomo-users@greatcircle.com'" > Subject: Policy ignored? > > Hi, > > I run the majodomo server at my company. The problem I have is that even > when the uns*bscribe policy is set to closed on a particular list, users can > still uns*bscribe at will. I'm running Majordomo 1.94.5 on Solaris 8 with > Perl version 5.005_03 and Sendmail 8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3. Any help? That's a known bug; you may want to install the following patch: ftp://ftp.ccsf.org/majordomo-patches/1.94.5/majordomo.5 You may find other bug fixes and/or feature enhancement patches you didn't know you needed;) Oh by the way, it is advisable to read the FAQ, and browse the list archives, before posting questions to the list. In other words, RTFM. Regards, Joe -- _/ _/_/_/ _/ ____________ __o _/ _/ _/ _/ ______________ _-\<,_ _/ _/ _/_/_/ _/ _/ ......(_)/ (_) _/_/ oe _/ _/. _/_/ ah jjah@cloud.ccsf.cc.ca.us From majordomo-users-owner@greatcircle.com Thu Feb 21 16:37:02 2002 Received: from tomts7-srv.bellnexxia.net (tomts7.bellnexxia.net [209.226.175.40]) by mycroft.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id BC3D0195CD3 for ; Thu, 21 Feb 2002 16:36:28 -0800 (PST) Received: from ACER ([65.94.213.172]) by tomts7-srv.bellnexxia.net (InterMail vM.4.01.03.23 201-229-121-123-20010418) with SMTP id <20020222003627.LNDA15460.tomts7-srv.bellnexxia.net@ACER>; Thu, 21 Feb 2002 19:36:27 -0500 Message-Id: <3.0.6.32.20020221193237.02117e90@pop6.sympatico.ca> X-Sender: b1wudu74@pop6.sympatico.ca X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.6 (32) Date: Thu, 21 Feb 2002 19:32:37 -0500 To: Jeff Wasilko From: Frank Bax Subject: Re: Visible TO address for users Cc: Majordomo-users@greatcircle.com In-Reply-To: <20020221105722.A23858@jane.smoe.org> References: <000901c1bac8$07ec0b60$fa67dcd5@zi0n2k> <006a01c1b61f$eb20eed0$fa67dcd5@zi0n2k> <20020220221547.D32442@mrball.net> <000901c1bac8$07ec0b60$fa67dcd5@zi0n2k> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Archive-Number: 200202/112 X-Sequence-Number: 322 At 10:57 AM 2/21/02 -0500, Jeff Wasilko wrote: >On Thu, Feb 21, 2002 at 11:08:02AM -0000, Jakob Sigur=F0sson wrote: >> Never the less, does anyone know how I can fix this ? Ie. not send all t= he >> emails to isl.is users in one envelope to mx1.isl.is ? > >If you upgrade to sendmail 8.12.2, you can set the max # of >recipients on a per domain. > >In earlier versions, you could add r=3D50 or r=3D30 to your mailer >definitions to limit all envelopes to that size. Jeff: This is very interesting! What is the best way to determine the max# setting for each domain (besides trial and error)? We only hit the 'too many recipients' problem for the first on our last mailing. Time to upgrade. From majordomo-users-owner@greatcircle.com Fri Feb 22 08:42:06 2002 Received: from smoe.org (jane.smoe.org [66.89.201.78]) by mycroft.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 37D041959F9 for ; Fri, 22 Feb 2002 08:42:04 -0800 (PST) Received: from smoe.org (ident-user@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by smoe.org (8.12.2/8.12.2) with ESMTP id g1MGg2mc008600; Fri, 22 Feb 2002 11:42:02 -0500 (EST) Received: (from jeffw@localhost) by smoe.org (8.12.2/8.12.2/Submit) id g1MGg1tQ008565; Fri, 22 Feb 2002 11:42:01 -0500 (EST) Date: Fri, 22 Feb 2002 11:42:00 -0500 From: Jeff Wasilko To: Frank Bax Cc: Majordomo-users@greatcircle.com Subject: Re: Visible TO address for users Message-ID: <20020222114200.A5842@jane.smoe.org> Mail-Followup-To: Frank Bax , Majordomo-users@greatcircle.com References: <000901c1bac8$07ec0b60$fa67dcd5@zi0n2k> <006a01c1b61f$eb20eed0$fa67dcd5@zi0n2k> <20020220221547.D32442@mrball.net> <000901c1bac8$07ec0b60$fa67dcd5@zi0n2k> <20020221105722.A23858@jane.smoe.org> <3.0.6.32.20020221193237.02117e90@pop6.sympatico.ca> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <3.0.6.32.20020221193237.02117e90@pop6.sympatico.ca>; from "Frank Bax" on Thu, Feb 21, 2002 at 07:32:37PM -0500 X-Archive-Number: 200202/113 X-Sequence-Number: 323 On Thu, Feb 21, 2002 at 07:32:37PM -0500, Frank Bax wrote: > At 10:57 AM 2/21/02 -0500, Jeff Wasilko wrote: > >On Thu, Feb 21, 2002 at 11:08:02AM -0000, Jakob Siguršsson wrote: > >> Never the less, does anyone know how I can fix this ? Ie. not send all the > >> emails to isl.is users in one envelope to mx1.isl.is ? > > > >If you upgrade to sendmail 8.12.2, you can set the max # of > >recipients on a per domain. > > > >In earlier versions, you could add r=50 or r=30 to your mailer > >definitions to limit all envelopes to that size. > > Jeff: This is very interesting! What is the best way to determine the > max# setting for each domain (besides trial and error)? We only hit the > 'too many recipients' problem for the first on our last mailing. Time to > upgrade. I'd have to say trial and error. I found mention of problems at AOL with large #s of recipients, so I throttled them 15 and left everyone else at 32. For speed (more parallel deliveries), I have the default outgoing queue (called remote) set to only 5 recipients per envelope. -jeff From majordomo-users-owner@greatcircle.com Fri Feb 22 10:22:31 2002 Received: from tomts20-srv.bellnexxia.net (tomts20.bellnexxia.net [209.226.175.74]) by mycroft.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2B9111959EF for ; Fri, 22 Feb 2002 10:22:28 -0800 (PST) Received: from ACER ([65.94.213.172]) by tomts20-srv.bellnexxia.net (InterMail vM.4.01.03.23 201-229-121-123-20010418) with SMTP id <20020222182227.MGHS4536.tomts20-srv.bellnexxia.net@ACER>; Fri, 22 Feb 2002 13:22:27 -0500 Message-Id: <3.0.6.32.20020222131916.007b7140@pop6.sympatico.ca> X-Sender: b1wudu74@pop6.sympatico.ca X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.6 (32) Date: Fri, 22 Feb 2002 13:19:16 -0500 To: Jeff Wasilko From: Frank Bax Subject: Re: Visible TO address for users Cc: Majordomo-users@greatcircle.com In-Reply-To: <20020222114200.A5842@jane.smoe.org> References: <3.0.6.32.20020221193237.02117e90@pop6.sympatico.ca> <000901c1bac8$07ec0b60$fa67dcd5@zi0n2k> <006a01c1b61f$eb20eed0$fa67dcd5@zi0n2k> <20020220221547.D32442@mrball.net> <000901c1bac8$07ec0b60$fa67dcd5@zi0n2k> <20020221105722.A23858@jane.smoe.org> <3.0.6.32.20020221193237.02117e90@pop6.sympatico.ca> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Archive-Number: 200202/114 X-Sequence-Number: 324 At 11:42 AM 2/22/02 -0500, Jeff Wasilko wrote: >On Thu, Feb 21, 2002 at 07:32:37PM -0500, Frank Bax wrote: >> At 10:57 AM 2/21/02 -0500, Jeff Wasilko wrote: >> >On Thu, Feb 21, 2002 at 11:08:02AM -0000, Jakob Sigur=F0sson wrote: >> >> Never the less, does anyone know how I can fix this ? Ie. not send all the >> >> emails to isl.is users in one envelope to mx1.isl.is ? >> > >> >If you upgrade to sendmail 8.12.2, you can set the max # of >> >recipients on a per domain. >> > >> >In earlier versions, you could add r=3D50 or r=3D30 to your mailer >> >definitions to limit all envelopes to that size. >>=20 >> Jeff: This is very interesting! What is the best way to determine the >> max# setting for each domain (besides trial and error)? We only hit the >> 'too many recipients' problem for the first on our last mailing. Time to >> upgrade. > >I'd have to say trial and error. I found mention of problems at >AOL with large #s of recipients, so I throttled them 15 and left >everyone else at 32.=20 > >For speed (more parallel deliveries), I have the default outgoing >queue (called remote) set to only 5 recipients per envelope. Jeff: Now I'm confused. In our Febrary mailing to about 4000 email addresses, many (I didn't count them) came back from yahoo saying 'too many recipients'. This was the *first* I've seen this message. I just did a count by domain and we have 441 addresses at 'aol.com' and they are getting through? How is this possible? We continue to get unsubscribe requests from ail, so they must be delivered. Domains with over 100 email addresses include hotmail.com, aol.com, sympatico.ca, yahoo.com, juno,com and home.com; and only yahoo has a problem at the moment. Where does the r=3D50 or r=3D30 go in older sendmail configs? What's the format in mc file? I use OpenBSD 2.9; I'm in the middle of planning an upgrade to 3.0 which includes sendmail 8.12.1; I'd have to go source for 8.12.2; I'm still thinking about that one (or waiting until summer release of 3.1). Frank From majordomo-users-owner@greatcircle.com Fri Feb 22 11:20:15 2002 Received: from daniel.sonny.org (58-25.siocpe.cableone.net [24.116.58.25]) by mycroft.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id F00C7195B17 for ; Fri, 22 Feb 2002 11:20:11 -0800 (PST) Received: from sonny.org (58-25.siocpe.cableone.net [24.116.58.25]) by daniel.sonny.org (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.1 (built Apr 10 2001)) with ESMTP id <0GRY0044I8DQZX@daniel.sonny.org> for majordomo-users@greatcircle.com; Fri, 22 Feb 2002 13:20:14 -0600 (CST) Date: Fri, 22 Feb 2002 13:20:14 -0600 From: Daniel Liston Subject: Re: just a question .. To: "Steven W. Orr" Cc: Ron Bogerd , majordomo-users@greatcircle.com Reply-To: Dan.Liston@sun.com Message-id: <3C7699EE.6AFAA6AA@sonny.org> Organization: Sun Microsystems - iPlanet eCommerce Solutions MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.76 [en] (X11; U; Linux 2.4.2-2 i686) Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-Accept-Language: en References: X-Archive-Number: 200202/115 X-Sequence-Number: 325 Actually, the default $whoami of "majordomo\@$whereami" works just fine in solaris, linux, and freebsd. Perl 5 requires the @ sign to be escaped, which is different from perl 4. You do need to make sure $whereami is properly defined though. If you use a shell command to populate this variable, use the perl "chomp" command to eliminate the possibility of introducing unwanted newlines from the value. Most of the kind of abort messages illustrated below come from the majordomo-owner being set to root or postmaster. Or, the email to the list originated from a root or postmaster alias. The only way to prevent the message from "ever" appearing again, is to shut down your majordomo server. :( OK, that was like saying the only way to secure your machine from the network is to unplug the network cable. Majordomo is smart enough to recognize addresses that will possibly create a mail loop. The majordomo.cf file defines these addresses at the bottom of the file in the $majordomo_dont_reply variable. Since you can never guarantee that majordomo will never receive an email from one of these addresses, there is always the potential to see another one of these abort messages. From "your" piece of this equation, make sure none of the listed addresses are used in the alias for majordomo-owner. Dan Liston "Steven W. Orr" wrote: > > On Mon, 18 Feb 2002, Ron Bogerd wrote: > > =>What can I do so this errormessage won't appear again ??? > => > =>MAJORDOMO ABORT (mj_majordomo)!! > => > =>majordomo@biblioamersfoort.nl punting to avoid mail loop. > Sheesh! I aske dthis question a week ago and AFAICT the message never even > made it to the list. I'd really like to know why. :-( > > The answer to the question is to look at your /etc/majordomo.cf > The line that says $whoami should be set like this: > > $whoami = 'majordomo@' . $whereami; From majordomo-users-owner@greatcircle.com Fri Feb 22 11:23:36 2002 Received: from daniel.sonny.org (58-25.siocpe.cableone.net [24.116.58.25]) by mycroft.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 70EFF1959F2 for ; Fri, 22 Feb 2002 11:23:35 -0800 (PST) Received: from sonny.org (58-25.siocpe.cableone.net [24.116.58.25]) by daniel.sonny.org (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.1 (built Apr 10 2001)) with ESMTP id <0GRY0054Q8JE0J@daniel.sonny.org> for Majordomo-users@GreatCircle.COM; Fri, 22 Feb 2002 13:23:38 -0600 (CST) Date: Fri, 22 Feb 2002 13:23:38 -0600 From: Daniel Liston Subject: Re: Digest submissions To: karlp@ourldsfamily.com Cc: Majordomo-users@GreatCircle.COM Reply-To: Dan.Liston@sun.com Message-id: <3C769ABA.4CA32644@sonny.org> Organization: Sun Microsystems - iPlanet eCommerce Solutions MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.76 [en] (X11; U; Linux 2.4.2-2 i686) Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-Accept-Language: en References: X-Archive-Number: 200202/116 X-Sequence-Number: 326 The short answer is "yes". You should never post directly to the digest version of the list, only to the main, non-digest version, and let the aliases do their work. main-digest: main Dan Liston karlp@ourldsfamily.com wrote: > > If someone is on a digest list, should they be able to post to the main, or > non-digest list of the same name? From majordomo-users-owner@greatcircle.com Fri Feb 22 11:54:14 2002 Received: from daniel.sonny.org (58-25.siocpe.cableone.net [24.116.58.25]) by mycroft.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E69DF1959EF for ; Fri, 22 Feb 2002 11:54:11 -0800 (PST) Received: from sonny.org (58-25.siocpe.cableone.net [24.116.58.25]) by daniel.sonny.org (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.1 (built Apr 10 2001)) with ESMTP id <0GRY0055C9YE2V@daniel.sonny.org> for Majordomo-users@GreatCircle.COM; Fri, 22 Feb 2002 13:54:14 -0600 (CST) Date: Fri, 22 Feb 2002 13:54:14 -0600 From: Daniel Liston Subject: Re: -post lists To: karlp@ourldsfamily.com Cc: Majordomo-users@GreatCircle.COM Reply-To: Dan.Liston@sun.com Message-id: <3C76A1E6.6801FC75@sonny.org> Organization: Sun Microsystems - iPlanet eCommerce Solutions MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.76 [en] (X11; U; Linux 2.4.2-2 i686) Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-Accept-Language: en References: X-Archive-Number: 200202/117 X-Sequence-Number: 327 Hi Karl, The way I implement -post is for taking advantage of the config file's restrict_post setting. If you run a moderated list, and restrict the ability to post to your list only by the moderator, the setting would look like this; restrict_post = yourlist-post The moderator's email address would be in the file named "yourlist-post" in the majordomo/lists directory. Since this is now a list, even though it has no alias in the aliases file, you can send majordomo commands to add/remove addresses from the list of moderators without having to give anyone file level access to edit the file. Dan Liston karlp@ourldsfamily.com wrote: > > Hi. > > I'm using Dan's script (newlist2.pl) to create lists and notice that it > creates the alias and list for the -post list. What do I do with this list? > How do I take advantage of it? What's it for? From majordomo-users-owner@greatcircle.com Fri Feb 22 12:03:12 2002 Received: from ourldsfamily.com (ourfam.dsl.xmission.com [198.60.114.90]) by mycroft.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 840B31959EF for ; Fri, 22 Feb 2002 12:03:10 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (karlp@localhost) by ourldsfamily.com (8.11.0/8.11.0) with ESMTP id g1MK39w32385 for ; Fri, 22 Feb 2002 13:03:09 -0700 Date: Fri, 22 Feb 2002 13:03:08 -0700 (MST) From: To: Subject: Re: -post lists In-Reply-To: <3C76A1E6.6801FC75@sonny.org> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Archive-Number: 200202/118 X-Sequence-Number: 328 Perfect. I appreciate your response. -- Karl L. Pearson Senior Consulting Systems Analyst Senior Consulting Database Analyst karlp@ourldsfamily.com My Thoughts on Terrorism In America: http://www.ourldsfamily.com/wtc.shtml On Fri, 22 Feb 2002, Daniel Liston wrote: Hi Karl, The way I implement -post is for taking advantage of the config file's restrict_post setting. If you run a moderated list, and restrict the ability to post to your list only by the moderator, the setting would look like this; restrict_post = yourlist-post The moderator's email address would be in the file named "yourlist-post" in the majordomo/lists directory. Since this is now a list, even though it has no alias in the aliases file, you can send majordomo commands to add/remove addresses from the list of moderators without having to give anyone file level access to edit the file. Dan Liston karlp@ourldsfamily.com wrote: > > Hi. > > I'm using Dan's script (newlist2.pl) to create lists and notice that it > creates the alias and list for the -post list. What do I do with this list? > How do I take advantage of it? What's it for? From majordomo-users-owner@greatcircle.com Fri Feb 22 19:20:58 2002 Received: from janus.hosting4u.net (janus.hosting4u.net [209.15.2.37]) by mycroft.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with SMTP id DAC7C1959F3 for ; Fri, 22 Feb 2002 19:20:56 -0800 (PST) Received: (qmail 15535 invoked from network); 23 Feb 2002 03:20:57 -0000 Received: from cancer.hosting4u.net (HELO paraklesis.com) (209.15.2.50) by mail-gate.hosting4u.net with SMTP; 23 Feb 2002 03:20:57 -0000 Received: from pavilion ([24.237.153.15]) by paraklesis.com ; Fri, 22 Feb 2002 21:20:49 -0600 Message-ID: <007801c1bc12$5c181580$0f99ed18@pavilion> From: "sally" To: Subject: please help Date: Fri, 22 Feb 2002 18:32:34 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0075_01C1BBCF.4BD41860" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 X-Rcpt-To: X-Archive-Number: 200202/119 X-Sequence-Number: 329 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0075_01C1BBCF.4BD41860 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I have been subscribed to this list for several weeks and I have yet to und= erstand a single post.=20=20 I have tried to find answers from faqs but I just can't understand any of t= his. I have a web site that has this majordomo option and I've set up a list and= it seems to be working just fine (I've not messed with any of the default = settings) but now I'm trying to get reply mail to go to the list instead of= the sender.=20 So this is the part of the instructions I have to change, I believe: # reply_to [word] () # Put a reply-to header with value into the outgoing # message. If the token $SENDER is used, then the address of the # sender is used as the value of the reply-to header. This is the # value of the reply-to header for digest lists. reply_to =3D I have tried to put "$LIST" in different brackets and nooks and crannies an= d I've tried "list" and the actual list address ... all to no avail. Will some kind soul please tell me how, exactly, one puts a reply-to header= with value into outgoing messages? And is this even the thing tha= t needs changing? My list is theology@paraklesis.com if that helps. Thanks so much for having mercy on me. sally sally@paraklesis.com ------=_NextPart_000_0075_01C1BBCF.4BD41860 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
I have been subscribed to this l= ist for=20 several weeks and I have yet to understand a single post. 
 
I have tried to find answers fro= m faqs=20 but I just can't understand any of this.
 
I have a web site that has this = majordomo=20 option and I've set up a list and it seems to be working just fine (I've no= t=20 messed with any of the default settings) but now I'm trying to get reply ma= il to=20 go to the list instead of the sender.
 
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 # message. If the token $SENDER is= =20 used, then the address of the
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I have tried to put "$LIST" in d= ifferent=20 brackets and nooks and crannies and I've tried "list" and the actual list= =20 address ...
 
all to no avail.
 
Will some kind soul please = tell me=20 how, exactly, one puts a reply-to header with value <value> into outg= oing=20 messages?  And is this even the thing that needs changing?
 
My list is theology@paraklesis.com if that= =20 helps.
 
Thanks so much for having mercy = on=20 me.
 
sally
sally@paraklesis.com
<= /BODY> ------=_NextPart_000_0075_01C1BBCF.4BD41860-- From majordomo-users-owner@greatcircle.com Fri Feb 22 22:44:55 2002 Received: from ourldsfamily.com (ourfam.dsl.xmission.com [198.60.114.90]) by mycroft.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 31CDB1959EA for ; Fri, 22 Feb 2002 22:44:52 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (karlp@localhost) by ourldsfamily.com (8.11.0/8.11.0) with ESMTP id g1N6itk07856 for ; Fri, 22 Feb 2002 23:44:55 -0700 Date: Fri, 22 Feb 2002 23:44:55 -0700 (MST) From: To: Subject: Re: please help In-Reply-To: <007801c1bc12$5c181580$0f99ed18@pavilion> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Archive-Number: 200202/120 X-Sequence-Number: 330 I found that $LIST works if there's three spaces after the equal sign. That seems to be the secret, however, in some of my lists, I just put the list name. In your case, you could put: reply_to = theology That works if $LIST doesn't. -- Karl L. Pearson Senior Consulting Systems Analyst Senior Consulting Database Analyst karlp@ourldsfamily.com My Thoughts on Terrorism In America: http://www.ourldsfamily.com/wtc.shtml On Fri, 22 Feb 2002, sally wrote: I have been subscribed to this list for several weeks and I have yet to understand a single post. I have tried to find answers from faqs but I just can't understand any of this. I have a web site that has this majordomo option and I've set up a list and it seems to be working just fine (I've not messed with any of the default settings) but now I'm trying to get reply mail to go to the list instead of the sender. So this is the part of the instructions I have to change, I believe: # reply_to [word] () # Put a reply-to header with value into the outgoing # message. If the token $SENDER is used, then the address of the # sender is used as the value of the reply-to header. This is the # value of the reply-to header for digest lists. reply_to = I have tried to put "$LIST" in different brackets and nooks and crannies and I've tried "list" and the actual list address ... all to no avail. Will some kind soul please tell me how, exactly, one puts a reply-to header with value into outgoing messages? And is this even the thing that needs changing? My list is theology@paraklesis.com if that helps. Thanks so much for having mercy on me. sally sally@paraklesis.com From majordomo-users-owner@greatcircle.com Mon Feb 25 00:59:38 2002 Received: from mail.brunata-huerth.de (mail.brunata-huerth.de [195.14.224.179]) by mycroft.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C1624195AC2 for ; Mon, 25 Feb 2002 00:59:31 -0800 (PST) Received: (from uucp@localhost) by mail.brunata-huerth.de (8.9.3/8.9.3/SuSE Linux 8.9.3-0.1) id JAA31249; Mon, 25 Feb 2002 09:59:19 +0100 Received: from r132099-1.brunata-huerth.de(172.18.133.1), claiming to be "r1320991" via SMTP by mail.brunata-huerth.de, id smtpd7gkl8x; Mon Feb 25 09:59:12 2002 From: "Georg Zumstrull" To: "Frank Bax" , "Jeff Wasilko" Cc: Subject: Re: Visible TO address for users Date: Mon, 25 Feb 2002 09:59:13 +0100 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) In-Reply-To: <3.0.6.32.20020222131916.007b7140@pop6.sympatico.ca> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 Importance: Normal X-Archive-Number: 200202/121 X-Sequence-Number: 331 > -----Original Message----- > From: majordomo-users-owner@greatcircle.com > [mailto:majordomo-users-owner@greatcircle.com]On Behalf Of Frank Bax > Sent: Friday, February 22, 2002 7:19 PM > To: Jeff Wasilko > Cc: Majordomo-users@greatcircle.com > Subject: Re: Visible TO address for users > > [...] > > Now I'm confused. In our Febrary mailing to about 4000 email addresses, > many (I didn't count them) came back from yahoo saying 'too many > recipients'. This was the *first* I've seen this message. I just did a > count by domain and we have 441 addresses at 'aol.com' and they > are getting > through? How is this possible? We continue to get unsubscribe requests > from ail, so they must be delivered. Domains with over 100 email > addresses > include hotmail.com, aol.com, sympatico.ca, yahoo.com, juno,com and > home.com; and only yahoo has a problem at the moment. Perhaps this depends on the sorting of your list? > [...] Georg Zumstrull From majordomo-users-owner@greatcircle.com Mon Feb 25 05:30:29 2002 Received: from portal.packetstorm.org (unknown [206.157.2.6]) by mycroft.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9BB4F195AD0 for ; Mon, 25 Feb 2002 05:30:25 -0800 (PST) Received: from portal (portal [206.157.2.6]) by portal.packetstorm.org (8.12.1/8.12.1) with ESMTP id g1PDn6AL026945; Mon, 25 Feb 2002 07:49:07 -0600 (CST) Date: Mon, 25 Feb 2002 07:49:06 -0600 (CST) From: mdomlst X-X-Sender: mdomlst@portal To: Georg Zumstrull Cc: Frank Bax , Jeff Wasilko , Subject: Re: Visible TO address for users In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Archive-Number: 200202/122 X-Sequence-Number: 332 Well I have been getting that as well to certain sites. So i went back and looked at the sendmail rule files and features that can be built. I found this entry define(`confMAX_RCPTS_PER_MESSAGE',`xxx') So what I think your seeing is that these other mtas have a rule like this defined. I like it :) Looks like another way to stop incoming monster spam lists, the downfall is it seems to interfere with valid mailling lists as well. My question may be better sent to comp.mail.sendmail but since im writing this up already I might as well ask here.. Is there a feature in the works or a hack around for sendmail that allows similar control using access tables? If so I could have the generic definition to block say 50 per message and then in the access table have something like majordomo-users@greatcircle.com [tab] OK Or maybe there needs to be a new table just for handling such things. On Mon, 25 Feb 2002, Georg Zumstrull wrote: > > -----Original Message----- > > From: majordomo-users-owner@greatcircle.com > > [mailto:majordomo-users-owner@greatcircle.com]On Behalf Of Frank Bax > > Sent: Friday, February 22, 2002 7:19 PM > > To: Jeff Wasilko > > Cc: Majordomo-users@greatcircle.com > > Subject: Re: Visible TO address for users > > > > [...] > > > > Now I'm confused. In our Febrary mailing to about 4000 email addresses, > > many (I didn't count them) came back from yahoo saying 'too many > > recipients'. This was the *first* I've seen this message. I just did a > > count by domain and we have 441 addresses at 'aol.com' and they > > are getting > > through? How is this possible? We continue to get unsubscribe requests > > from ail, so they must be delivered. Domains with over 100 email > > addresses > > include hotmail.com, aol.com, sympatico.ca, yahoo.com, juno,com and > > home.com; and only yahoo has a problem at the moment. > > Perhaps this depends on the sorting of your list? > > > [...] > > Georg Zumstrull > > > From majordomo-users-owner@greatcircle.com Mon Feb 25 12:36:41 2002 Received: from smoe.org (jane.smoe.org [66.89.201.78]) by mycroft.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8B61D1959E3 for ; Mon, 25 Feb 2002 12:36:38 -0800 (PST) Received: from smoe.org (ident-user@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by smoe.org (8.12.2/8.12.2) with ESMTP id g1PKaY0A001653; Mon, 25 Feb 2002 15:36:34 -0500 (EST) Received: (from jeffw@localhost) by smoe.org (8.12.2/8.12.2/Submit) id g1PKaWAS001619; Mon, 25 Feb 2002 15:36:32 -0500 (EST) Date: Mon, 25 Feb 2002 15:36:32 -0500 From: Jeff Wasilko To: mdomlst Cc: Georg Zumstrull , Frank Bax , Majordomo-users@greatcircle.com Subject: Re: Visible TO address for users Message-ID: <20020225153632.A18476@jane.smoe.org> Mail-Followup-To: mdomlst , Georg Zumstrull , Frank Bax , Majordomo-users@greatcircle.com References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: ; from "mdomlst" on Mon, Feb 25, 2002 at 07:49:06AM -0600 X-Archive-Number: 200202/123 X-Sequence-Number: 333 On Mon, Feb 25, 2002 at 07:49:06AM -0600, mdomlst wrote: > My question may be better sent to comp.mail.sendmail but since im writing > this up already I might as well ask here.. > > Is there a feature in the works or a hack around for sendmail that allows > similar control using access tables? If so I could have the generic definition to > block say 50 per message and then in the access table have something like > > majordomo-users@greatcircle.com [tab] OK > > Or maybe there needs to be a new table just for handling such things. If you have queue groups defined (needs 8.12.x), you can use the access database to direct mail for a domain into a specific queue (and then you could have the # of recipients per envelope defined in that queue): QGRP:aol.com smallqueue QGRP:microsoft.com bigqueue (see http://blue-labs.org/clue/access_hints.php for other examples). -j From majordomo-users-owner@greatcircle.com Mon Feb 25 19:24:45 2002 Received: from goose.prod.itd.earthlink.net (goose.mail.pas.earthlink.net [207.217.120.18]) by mycroft.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E02F6195AAB for ; Mon, 25 Feb 2002 19:24:42 -0800 (PST) Received: from user-uini76k.dialup.mindspring.com ([165.121.28.212] helo=orf.org) by goose.prod.itd.earthlink.net with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #1) id 16fYEL-0004xi-00 for majordomo-users@greatcircle.com; Mon, 25 Feb 2002 19:24:42 -0800 Message-ID: <3C7AFDFE.C07A9D17@orf.org> Date: Mon, 25 Feb 2002 19:16:14 -0800 From: Greg Carter X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.73 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: majordomo-users@greatcircle.com Subject: Indexer Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Archive-Number: 200202/124 X-Sequence-Number: 334 I have located a PL file called makeindex in my majordomo/Tools directory. I'm a bit of a novice here. How do I get it to run? I have sent a command as mkindex but that obviously doesn't work. Any help is appreciated. Thanks, Greg From majordomo-users-owner@greatcircle.com Tue Feb 26 02:02:09 2002 Received: from gw.ordix.de (gw.ordix.de [212.218.179.18]) by mycroft.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B478F1959F4 for ; Tue, 26 Feb 2002 02:02:04 -0800 (PST) Received: from ordix.de (serena.ordix.de [192.168.7.81]) by gw.ordix.de (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA30870 for ; Tue, 26 Feb 2002 11:02:02 +0100 Message-ID: <3C7B5D1A.BED3662F@ordix.de> Date: Tue, 26 Feb 2002 11:02:02 +0100 From: "Lars H. Korte" Reply-To: lk@ordix.de Organization: ORDIX AG X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [de]C-CCK-MCD QXW0323k (WinNT; U) X-Accept-Language: de,en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: majordomo-users@greatcircle.com Subject: Taboo headers Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Archive-Number: 200202/125 X-Sequence-Number: 335 Hi Group, We are running a Majordomo 1.94.5 Is it possible to configure some lists in that way, that the taboo-headers from the majordmo.cf are not handled ? We need it for some lists, where mails with these subjects/headers do not need to be bounced. Regards Lars From majordomo-users-owner@greatcircle.com Tue Feb 26 08:04:16 2002 Received: from mail.york.cuny.edu (mail.york.cuny.edu [198.61.16.8]) by mycroft.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 330C41959E4 for ; Tue, 26 Feb 2002 08:04:15 -0800 (PST) Received: (from nobody@localhost) by mail.york.cuny.edu (8.12.1/8.12.1) id g1QGAPWL014854; Tue, 26 Feb 2002 11:10:25 -0500 (EST) From: Saarah Ahsan X-Authentication-Warning: mail.york.cuny.edu: nobody set sender to saarah@york.cuny.edu using -f To: Majordomo list Subject: Bogus Admin message Message-ID: <1014739825.3c7bb3714273d@mail.york.cuny.edu> Date: Tue, 26 Feb 2002 11:10:25 -0500 (EST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit User-Agent: IMP/PHP IMAP webmail program 2.2.7 X-Originating-IP: 198.61.27.3 X-Archive-Number: 200202/126 X-Sequence-Number: 336 Hello, I desperately need help with the majordomo (1.94.5) which is running on a Solaris 8 box with Sendmail (8.12.1). Many users who could send mail earlier to the list are getting the the bounced message : ==================================================================== Subject: BOUNCE english@york.cuny.edu: Admin request of type /\bsubscribe\b/i at line 9 Date: Tue, 26 Feb 2002 07:19:22 -0500 (EST) From: owner-english@york.cuny.edu To: english-approval@york.cuny.edu ======================================================================== It is not happening to all users but only for a couple of users. I don't have any clue to this problem. Moreover, I'm not at all familiar with Majordomo. I'll appreciate any help. I'm at a loss and many of my users are complaining... Thanks in advance, Kamrul Ahsan (kamrul@york.cuny.edu) York College/CUNY I'm subscribed in this list at saarah@york.cuny.edu From majordomo-users-owner@greatcircle.com Tue Feb 26 08:38:46 2002 Received: from albatross.prod.itd.earthlink.net (albatross.mail.pas.earthlink.net [207.217.120.120]) by mycroft.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 19D96195AE8 for ; Tue, 26 Feb 2002 08:38:45 -0800 (PST) Received: from user-112vubs.biz.mindspring.com ([66.47.249.124] helo=attitude.queernet.org) by albatross.prod.itd.earthlink.net with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #1) id 16fkci-000145-00; Tue, 26 Feb 2002 08:38:40 -0800 Message-Id: <5.1.0.14.0.20020226082820.04127288@gopostal.onlinepolicy.net> X-Sender: rogerk@queernet.org@gopostal.onlinepolicy.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Tue, 26 Feb 2002 08:36:51 -0800 To: Saarah Ahsan , Majordomo list From: "Roger B.A. Klorese" Subject: Re: Bogus Admin message In-Reply-To: <1014739825.3c7bb3714273d@mail.york.cuny.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed X-Archive-Number: 200202/127 X-Sequence-Number: 337 At 11:10 AM 2/26/2002 -0500, Saarah Ahsan wrote: >Hello, > > >I desperately need help with the majordomo (1.94.5) which is running on a >Solaris 8 box with Sendmail (8.12.1). > >Many users who could send mail earlier to the list are getting the the bounced >message : > >==================================================================== >Subject: BOUNCE english@york.cuny.edu: Admin request of type >/\bsubscribe\b/i at line 9 >Date: Tue, 26 Feb 2002 07:19:22 -0500 (EST) >From: owner-english@york.cuny.edu >To: english-approval@york.cuny.edu >======================================================================== > >It is not happening to all users but only for a couple of users. I don't have >any clue to this problem. Moreover, I'm not at all familiar with Majordomo. >I'll appreciate any help. I'm at a loss and many of my users are >complaining... > >Thanks in advance, > >Kamrul Ahsan (kamrul@york.cuny.edu) >York College/CUNY >I'm subscribed in this list at saarah@york.cuny.edu Why do you think that's bogus? Is there nobody at your site responsible for managing the Majordomo installation? If there were, and they had therefore read the documentation, they would have told you that admin request filtering (or "administrivia") doesn't exist to provide a foolproof automatic detection of administrative requests that were sent to the incorrect address, but rather, a better-safe-than-sorry method that protects the subscribers from seeing lots of admin mail, at the cost of making the list-owner DO HIS OR HER JOB, by scanning the messages to determine if they were admin mail sent to the wrong address, or if they were proper posts, in which case the list owner is to APPROVE THE POST USING MAJORDOMO AND THEIR PASSWORD (*not* forward it to the list with their own headers and say "reply to the poster, not me"). In this case, the message is clear: the word "subscribe" surrounded by blanks was seen on line 9 of the message. You're supposed to look at line 9, say "oops, they meant to send this to me or to Majordomo" and act on it, or say "well, that's just a regular post with the word 'subscribe' in it" and approve it. You can turn off all this checking by setting "administrivia" in your config to "no". But that would mark you as a lazy-ass list-owner who doesn't care about their subscribers, and you wouldn't want that, would you? (And no, I'm not saying that setting should ALWAYS be on -- if the word occurs in normal proper on-topic list posts -- such as for this list -- it should probably be turned off.) You didn't happen to add that "I'm subscribed in this list at" line recently, did you? From majordomo-users-owner@greatcircle.com Tue Feb 26 09:00:33 2002 Received: from tom.iecc.com (tom.iecc.com [208.31.42.38]) by mycroft.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with SMTP id 9B320195AA5 for ; Tue, 26 Feb 2002 09:00:31 -0800 (PST) Received: (qmail 22298 invoked from network); 26 Feb 2002 12:00:29 -0500 Received: (ofmipd 172.159.65.197); 26 Feb 2002 17:00:07 -0000 Date: 26 Feb 2002 12:01:07 -0500 Message-Id: From: "Bruce Epstein - Zeus Productions" To: "Roger B.A. Klorese" Cc: "Saarah Ahsan" , "Majordomo list" Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Sender: zeus@imap.iecc.com In-Reply-To: <5.1.0.14.0.20020226082820.04127288@gopostal.onlinepolicy.net> References: <5.1.0.14.0.20020226082820.04127288@gopostal.onlinepolicy.net> Subject: Re: Bogus Admin message Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" X-Archive-Number: 200202/128 X-Sequence-Number: 338 Jeez, Roger, a little politeness wouldn't hurt. Kamrul said he/she (?) is a beginner. Unprovoked attacks aren't necessary. Cheers, Bruce At 08:36 AM -0800 02/26/02, Roger B.A. Klorese wrote: >At 11:10 AM 2/26/2002 -0500, Saarah Ahsan wrote: > >>Hello, >> >> >>I desperately need help with the majordomo (1.94.5) which is running on a >>Solaris 8 box with Sendmail (8.12.1). >> >>Many users who could send mail earlier to the list are getting the the bounced >>message : >> >>==================================================================== >>Subject: BOUNCE english@york.cuny.edu: Admin request of type >>/\bsubscribe\b/i at line 9 >>Date: Tue, 26 Feb 2002 07:19:22 -0500 (EST) >>From: owner-english@york.cuny.edu >>To: english-approval@york.cuny.edu >>======================================================================== >> >>It is not happening to all users but only for a couple of users. I don't have >>any clue to this problem. Moreover, I'm not at all familiar with Majordomo. >>I'll appreciate any help. I'm at a loss and many of my users are complaining... >> >>Thanks in advance, >> >>Kamrul Ahsan (kamrul@york.cuny.edu) >>York College/CUNY >>I'm subscribed in this list at saarah@york.cuny.edu > >Why do you think that's bogus? > >Is there nobody at your site responsible for managing the Majordomo installation? > >If there were, and they had therefore read the documentation, they would have told you that admin request filtering (or "administrivia") doesn't exist to provide a foolproof automatic detection of administrative requests that were sent to the incorrect address, but rather, a better-safe-than-sorry method that protects the subscribers from seeing lots of admin mail, at the cost of making the list-owner DO HIS OR HER JOB, by scanning the messages to determine if they were admin mail sent to the wrong address, or if they were proper posts, in which case the list owner is to APPROVE THE POST USING MAJORDOMO AND THEIR PASSWORD (*not* forward it to the list with their own headers and say "reply to the poster, not me"). > >In this case, the message is clear: the word "subscribe" surrounded by blanks was seen on line 9 of the message. You're supposed to look at line 9, say "oops, they meant to send this to me or to Majordomo" and act on it, or say "well, that's just a regular post with the word 'subscribe' in it" and approve it. > >You can turn off all this checking by setting "administrivia" in your config to "no". But that would mark you as a lazy-ass list-owner who doesn't care about their subscribers, and you wouldn't want that, would you? > >(And no, I'm not saying that setting should ALWAYS be on -- if the word occurs in normal proper on-topic list posts -- such as for this list -- it should probably be turned off.) > >You didn't happen to add that "I'm subscribed in this list at" line recently, did you? From majordomo-users-owner@greatcircle.com Tue Feb 26 10:37:28 2002 Received: from mailgate.pit.comms.marconi.com (mailgate.pit.comms.marconi.com [169.144.68.6]) by mycroft.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id AFC00195B05 for ; Tue, 26 Feb 2002 10:37:27 -0800 (PST) Received: from mailman.pit.comms.marconi.com (mailman.pit.comms.marconi.com [169.144.2.12]) by mailgate.pit.comms.marconi.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA12479; Tue, 26 Feb 2002 13:37:20 -0500 (EST) Received: from whq-msgrtr-01.pit.comms.marconi.com (whq-msgrtr-01.pit.comms.marconi.com [169.144.2.221]) by mailman.pit.comms.marconi.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA24953; Tue, 26 Feb 2002 13:37:20 -0500 (EST) Received: by whq-msgrtr-01.pit.comms.marconi.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) id ; Tue, 26 Feb 2002 13:37:19 -0500 Message-ID: <1DE644007776D3119FAC00204840ECF409665FCA@whq-msgusr-03.pit.comms.marconi.com> From: "Franco, Dan" To: "'lk@ordix.de'" , majordomo-users@greatcircle.com Subject: Re: Taboo headers Date: Tue, 26 Feb 2002 13:37:18 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" X-Archive-Number: 200202/129 X-Sequence-Number: 339 Lars, I'm not sure I understand the question, but if you're asking if you can configure a list so that messages with subject lines containing words like "r*emove" or "uns*bscribe" in them will not bounce but actually be sent to the list, you simply need to set administrivia = no in the config files of the lists in question. Dan Franco Marconi Unix Systems Administrator 3000 Marconi Drive Warrendale, PA 15086, USA (724) 742-7685 > -----Original Message----- > From: Lars H. Korte [mailto:lk@ordix.de] > Sent: Tuesday, February 26, 2002 5:02 AM > To: majordomo-users@greatcircle.com > Subject: Taboo headers > > > Hi Group, > > We are running a Majordomo 1.94.5 > > Is it possible to configure some lists in that way, that the > taboo-headers from the majordmo.cf are not handled ? > > We need it for some lists, where mails with these subjects/headers do > not need to be bounced. > > Regards > Lars > From majordomo-users-owner@greatcircle.com Wed Feb 27 01:04:58 2002 Received: from dukas.upc.es (dukas.upc.es [147.83.2.62]) by mycroft.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A46E7195AD4 for ; Wed, 27 Feb 2002 01:04:50 -0800 (PST) Received: from upc.es (diosmio.upc.es [147.83.19.7]) by dukas.upc.es (8.12.1/8.12.1) with ESMTP id g1R94krZ029878 for ; Wed, 27 Feb 2002 10:04:47 +0100 (MET) Message-ID: <3C7CA047.D49F93C@upc.es> Date: Wed, 27 Feb 2002 10:00:55 +0100 From: Javi Diaz Organization: Universitat Politecnica de Catalunya X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.76 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: majordomo list Subject: WHO question Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Archive-Number: 200202/130 X-Sequence-Number: 340 Hi all, just a question: I'm the owner of a majordomo list, and I want to make a WHO command. When I send the WHO command to majordomo, he says: >>>> who list-name **** List 'list-name' is a private list. **** Only members of the list can do a 'who'. **** You [ ] aren't a member of list 'list-name'. because I'm no not a member of this list. BUT I'm the owner of this list. Is not possible to the list owner to have access to the WHO command if he/she is not inside the list? thanks all -- ################################################################### # # # # Javi Diaz # # ## # Universitat Politecnica de Catalunya # # # # # Tel: +34934017118 # ####### # # # Fax: +34934016217 # # # # # # # # # ################################################################### From majordomo-users-owner@greatcircle.com Wed Feb 27 08:14:28 2002 Received: from daniel.sonny.org (58-25.siocpe.cableone.net [24.116.58.25]) by mycroft.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1E3D7195AC4 for ; Wed, 27 Feb 2002 08:14:25 -0800 (PST) Received: from sonny.org (58-25.siocpe.cableone.net [24.116.58.25]) by daniel.sonny.org (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.1 (built Apr 10 2001)) with ESMTP id <0GS700G2O942HK@daniel.sonny.org> for majordomo-users@greatcircle.com; Wed, 27 Feb 2002 10:14:26 -0600 (CST) Date: Wed, 27 Feb 2002 10:14:26 -0600 From: Daniel Liston Subject: Re: WHO question To: Javi Diaz Cc: majordomo list Reply-To: Dan.Liston@sun.com Message-id: <3C7D05E2.5C26CE31@sonny.org> Organization: Sun Microsystems - iPlanet eCommerce Solutions MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.76 [en] (X11; U; Linux 2.4.2-2 i686) Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-Accept-Language: en References: <3C7CA047.D49F93C@upc.es> X-Archive-Number: 200202/131 X-Sequence-Number: 341 Javi, Have a look at the list-owner-info file that comes with your majordomo. This explains majordomo commands that are not available via the "help" command as an end user. Without being a member of your list, but by being the list-owner, you can always use commands followed by a password to override security on an individual list. Try; approve who This allows you to get the list of addresses for your anonymous list. Without the password, even the list owner can not see who is on the list. Dan Liston Javi Diaz wrote: > > Hi all, > just a question: > > I'm the owner of a majordomo list, and I want to make a WHO command. > When I send the WHO command to majordomo, he says: > > >>>> who list-name > **** List 'list-name' is a private list. > **** Only members of the list can do a 'who'. > **** You [ ] aren't a member of list 'list-name'. > > because I'm no not a member of this list. > BUT I'm the owner of this list. Is not possible to the list owner to > have access to the WHO command if he/she is not inside the list? From majordomo-users-owner@greatcircle.com Wed Feb 27 12:07:44 2002 Received: from bolt.lakeheadu.ca (bolt.lakeheadu.ca [192.75.62.254]) by mycroft.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B550D195AF8 for ; Wed, 27 Feb 2002 12:07:41 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (gihill@localhost) by bolt.lakeheadu.ca (8.11.4/8.11.4) with ESMTP id g1RK9Tf17837 for ; Wed, 27 Feb 2002 15:09:30 -0500 (EST) Date: Wed, 27 Feb 2002 15:09:27 -0500 (EST) From: Geoff Hill - CTRC X-X-Sender: To: Subject: majordomo and sendmail 8.12 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Archive-Number: 200202/132 X-Sequence-Number: 342 Hello, I'm new to the list so this question may have been answered before. When I installed sendmail 8.12.1 on our SUN server (Solaris 8) majordomo stopped working. The new sendmail gets a "permission denied" error when it tries to open any of majordomo's lists files. Are there fixes for this yet or do I have to stay with sendmail 8.11.x ? Thanks. Geoff Hill email: gihill@bolt.lakeheadu.ca Tech Support, CTRC phone: (807)343-8400 Lakehead University fax: (807)346-7735 Thunder Bay, ON, Canada, P7B5E1 From majordomo-users-owner@greatcircle.com Wed Feb 27 13:17:43 2002 Received: from daniel.sonny.org (58-25.siocpe.cableone.net [24.116.58.25]) by mycroft.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C126A195AFE for ; Wed, 27 Feb 2002 13:16:49 -0800 (PST) Received: from sonny.org (58-25.siocpe.cableone.net [24.116.58.25]) by daniel.sonny.org (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.1 (built Apr 10 2001)) with ESMTP id <0GS700H6EN45A2@daniel.sonny.org> for majordomo-users@greatcircle.com; Wed, 27 Feb 2002 15:16:53 -0600 (CST) Date: Wed, 27 Feb 2002 15:16:52 -0600 From: Daniel Liston Subject: Re: majordomo and sendmail 8.12 To: Geoff Hill - CTRC Cc: majordomo-users@greatcircle.com Reply-To: Dan.Liston@sun.com Message-id: <3C7D4CC4.65BBAC82@sonny.org> Organization: Sun Microsystems - iPlanet eCommerce Solutions MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.76 [en] (X11; U; Linux 2.4.2-2 i686) Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-Accept-Language: en References: X-Archive-Number: 200202/133 X-Sequence-Number: 343 Did you save your old sendmail.cf file before upgrading? Do a quick compare between the two to see what is missing that majordomo needs. Perhaps sendmail 8.12 wants you to use smrsh. You can either defeat this by changing the sendmail.mc and run m4, or you can create a link to wrapper in the proper directory. These directories are listed in the majordomo FAQ. It would also help to have the "entire" error message, rather than just the "permission denied" comment from it. Dan Liston Geoff Hill - CTRC wrote: > I'm new to the list so this question may have been answered > before. When I installed sendmail 8.12.1 on our SUN server > (Solaris 8) majordomo stopped working. The new sendmail > gets a "permission denied" error when it tries to open > any of majordomo's lists files. Are there fixes for this > yet or do I have to stay with sendmail 8.11.x ? From majordomo-users-owner@greatcircle.com Wed Feb 27 17:48:06 2002 Received: from swan.prod.itd.earthlink.net (swan.mail.pas.earthlink.net [207.217.120.123]) by mycroft.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 91B3A1959E2 for ; Wed, 27 Feb 2002 17:48:03 -0800 (PST) Received: from user-2ini8nh.dialup.mindspring.com ([165.121.34.241] helo=orf.org) by swan.prod.itd.earthlink.net with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #1) id 16gFfu-0007LS-00 for majordomo-users@greatcircle.com; Wed, 27 Feb 2002 17:48:02 -0800 Message-ID: <3C7D8A74.ED9300C9@orf.org> Date: Wed, 27 Feb 2002 17:40:04 -0800 From: Greg Carter X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.73 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: majordomo-users@greatcircle.com Subject: How to run indexer? Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Archive-Number: 200202/134 X-Sequence-Number: 344 Greetings majordomo list, I have recently installed Majordomo and all is running fine. I would like to create the index files and after reading thru the documentation, I can find only one reference in the list-owner-info file as follows (quotes at the start and end of each paragraph are mine): "We are running an indexer program nightly. It produces two index files that subscribers can get: CONTENTS lists what subject lines are in each archive file; TOPICS lists what archive files contain each subject." "Subscribers use the "get" command to see files in the archives. Examples: get ListName CONTENTS # gets the CONTENTS file get ListName ListName.9507 # gets the July 1995 archive file" Please excuse this request as being from a novice user with minimal scripting experience, but how do I run the indexer program? I have located the makeindex.pl file in my majordomo/Tools directory on my server but am unsre how to issue a command to the file or what the command might be. Thanks for your help! Greg From majordomo-users-owner@greatcircle.com Wed Feb 27 20:04:34 2002 Received: from ourldsfamily.com (ourfam.dsl.xmission.com [198.60.114.90]) by mycroft.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A804E1959E2 for ; Wed, 27 Feb 2002 20:04:32 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (karlp@localhost) by ourldsfamily.com (8.11.0/8.11.0) with ESMTP id g1S44Yu22712 for ; Wed, 27 Feb 2002 21:04:34 -0700 Date: Wed, 27 Feb 2002 21:04:34 -0700 (MST) From: To: Subject: get listname Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Archive-Number: 200202/135 X-Sequence-Number: 345 I've created indexes using the makeindex.pl and I see the CONTENTS and TOPICS files in the list archive directories, but when I send email to majordomo with get listname, I'm still getting No files available. I ran mj_key_cache and nothing changed (that's for majorcool, isn't it?) I have MD 1.94.5 and RH 7.0. -- Karl L. Pearson Senior Consulting Systems Analyst Senior Consulting Database Analyst karlp@ourldsfamily.com My Thoughts on Terrorism In America: http://www.ourldsfamily.com/wtc.shtml From majordomo-users-owner@greatcircle.com Thu Feb 28 07:49:38 2002 Received: from odyssey.lambesis.com (unknown [64.154.92.246]) by mycroft.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 57543195AC4 for ; Thu, 28 Feb 2002 07:49:37 -0800 (PST) Received: from [192.168.1.105] (ca-crlsbd-u2-c4a-186.crlsca.adelphia.net [24.55.47.186]) by odyssey.lambesis.com (8.11.6/8.11.0) with ESMTP id g1SFjLb09976 for ; Thu, 28 Feb 2002 07:45:21 -0800 User-Agent: Microsoft-Entourage/10.0.0.1309 Date: Thu, 28 Feb 2002 07:49:35 -0800 Subject: Removal of bad addresses From: Jason Buscema To: Message-ID: Mime-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-Archive-Number: 200202/136 X-Sequence-Number: 346 Does anyone know if it is possible to have Majordomo automatically remove bad email addresses from a list? I see quite a few bounced emails come through and I usually take care of them once every couple weeks. Now the list is quite large and naturally there are a lot of bad emails... enough where I can't spend the time to do it by hand anymore. From majordomo-users-owner@greatcircle.com Thu Feb 28 13:30:56 2002 Received: from smtp.netcologne.de (smtp.netcologne.de [194.8.194.112]) by mycroft.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8611C195B09 for ; Thu, 28 Feb 2002 13:30:50 -0800 (PST) Received: from pc02 (dial-213-168-92-6.netcologne.de [213.168.92.6]) by smtp.netcologne.de (8.12.2/8.12.2) with SMTP id g1SLUj3s022257 for ; Thu, 28 Feb 2002 22:30:45 +0100 (MET) Message-Id: <200202282130.g1SLUj3s022257@smtp.netcologne.de> From: "Wolfgang Schneider" To: "majordomo-users@greatcircle.com" Date: Thu, 28 Feb 2002 22:31:48 +0100 Reply-To: "Wolfgang Schneider" X-Mailer: PMMail 2000 Professional (2.20.2380) For Windows 2000 (5.0.2195;2) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: moderate a list X-Archive-Number: 200202/137 X-Sequence-Number: 347 Hello all, I am using majordomo at my website for various lists and am encountering a situation where I would need to use the "moderate a list" function ... but I am having problems implementing it correctly. (1) I have changed the 2 settings in the config file moderate = yes moderator = schneider@bibelcenter.de (2) I am receiving the "bounce mails" correctly with the remark of "approval requested" (3) THE PROBLEM .... in my e-mail software (PMMail2000) I will need to use the "foward mail" command and then add by hand the approval header 1st line, but with this "forward mail" command, the old mail is put complete with full header info into the body of the mail ... and I can't figure out what parts of this header info to delete so that the original mail gets forwarded correctly to the list ... A sample of the "E-Mail text with full header is this:" ===========BEGIN FORWARDED MESSAGE========== >From: "Wolfgang Schneider" >To: "Bibelforum" >Date: Thu, 28 Feb 2002 20:37:47 +0100 >Reply-To: "Wolfgang Schneider" >Priority: Normal >X-Mailer: PMMail 2000 Professional (2.20.2380) For Windows 2000 (5.0.2195;2) >MIME-Version: 1.0 >Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" >Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit >Subject: Fwd: BOUNCE bibelforum@bibelcenter.de: Approval required: > Received: from smtp.netcologne.de (smtp.netcologne.de [194.8.194.112]) by mail.kuttig.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id UAA19814 for ; Thu, 28 Feb 2002 20:34:47 +0100 Received: from pc02 (dial-194-8-205-93.netcologne.de [194.8.205.93]) by smtp.netcologne.de (8.12.2/8.12.2) with SMTP id g1SJYk3s029482 for ; Thu, 28 Feb 2002 20:34:46 +0100 (MET) Message-Id: <200202281934.g1SJYk3s029482@smtp.netcologne.de> From: "Wolfgang Schneider" To: "Bibelforum" Date: Thu, 28 Feb 2002 20:35:48 +0100 Reply-To: "Wolfgang Schneider" Priority: Normal X-Mailer: PMMail 2000 Professional (2.20.2380) For Windows 2000 (5.0.2195;2) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Subject: Test list server problem... Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by mail.kuttig.com id UAA19819 Hallo, ....... ==============END FORWARDED MESSAGE============= From the FAQ sheet and Help texts I could determine that I should put as first line the "Approved: password" text, but then I was not able to determine which parts of this header should be deleted .... so that the mail be forwarded correctly and accepted correctly as mail from the original sender ... Can anyone tell me more on how to do this? Thank you very much for your help. God bless you with His grace and peace Wolfgang Looking for Biblical information? COME AND SEE! -- ONLINE Courses: http://classes.bibelcenter.de ... NEW! -- BibelCenter: http://www.bibelcenter.de -- Bookstore: http://www.worthy.net/BibelCenter/ From majordomo-users-owner@greatcircle.com Thu Feb 28 20:24:19 2002 Received: from arm.mrball.net (mrball.net [209.85.130.137]) by mycroft.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A8D6E1959F2 for ; Thu, 28 Feb 2002 20:24:16 -0800 (PST) Received: from todd.mrball.net (todd.mrball.net [192.168.18.3]) by arm.mrball.net (8.11.2/8.11.2) with ESMTP id g214OCb18947 for ; Thu, 28 Feb 2002 20:24:13 -0800 Received: (from todd@localhost) by todd.mrball.net (8.12.0.Beta7/8.12.0.Beta7) id g214O6jr029374 for Majordomo-users@greatcircle.com; Thu, 28 Feb 2002 20:24:06 -0800 Date: Thu, 28 Feb 2002 20:24:06 -0800 From: Todd Lyons To: Majordomo-users@greatcircle.com Subject: Re: Visible TO address for users Message-ID: <20020228202406.C29215@mrball.net> Mail-Followup-To: Majordomo-users@greatcircle.com References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: ; from mdomlst@packetstorm.org on Mon, Feb 25, 2002 at 07:49:06AM -0600 X-Archive-Number: 200202/138 X-Sequence-Number: 348 mdomlst wanted us to know: >I found this entry >define(`confMAX_RCPTS_PER_MESSAGE',`xxx') >So what I think your seeing is that these other mtas have a rule like this >defined. Most of us that have been doing this for awhile are also using bulk_mailer to break the single email into groups of email. My listserver creates an email for each 3 domains. -- Blue skies... Todd | Get a bigger hammer! | Security is like an onion. It's made | | http://www.mrball.net | up of several layers and makes you cry. | | http://faq.mrball.net | --Howard Chu | From majordomo-users-owner@greatcircle.com Thu Feb 28 20:27:37 2002 Received: from arm.mrball.net (mrball.net [209.85.130.137]) by mycroft.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id BB69F195B1F for ; Thu, 28 Feb 2002 20:27:36 -0800 (PST) Received: from todd.mrball.net (todd.mrball.net [192.168.18.3]) by arm.mrball.net (8.11.2/8.11.2) with ESMTP id g214Rcb18963 for ; Thu, 28 Feb 2002 20:27:38 -0800 Received: (from todd@localhost) by todd.mrball.net (8.12.0.Beta7/8.12.0.Beta7) id g214RV23029397 for majordomo-users@greatcircle.com; Thu, 28 Feb 2002 20:27:31 -0800 Date: Thu, 28 Feb 2002 20:27:31 -0800 From: Todd Lyons To: majordomo-users@greatcircle.com Subject: Re: please help Message-ID: <20020228202731.D29215@mrball.net> Mail-Followup-To: majordomo-users@greatcircle.com References: <007801c1bc12$5c181580$0f99ed18@pavilion> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <007801c1bc12$5c181580$0f99ed18@pavilion>; from sally@paraklesis.com on Fri, Feb 22, 2002 at 06:32:34PM -0800 X-Archive-Number: 200202/139 X-Sequence-Number: 349 sally wanted us to know: >I have been subscribed to this list for several weeks and I have yet to understand a single post. I feel for you. It was that way at first I think for all of us. >I have a web site that has this majordomo option and I've set up a list and it seems to be working just fine (I've not messed with any of the default settings) but now I'm trying to get reply mail to go to the list instead of the sender. Generally considered a bad idea, but it's your list, you can do what you want. http://faq.mrball.net/#replyto >reply_to = >I have tried to put "$LIST" in different brackets and nooks and crannies and I've tried "list" and the actual list address ... >all to no avail. #reply_to = "Cerritos LUG" -- Blue skies... Todd | Get a bigger hammer! | Security is like an onion. It's made | | http://www.mrball.net | up of several layers and makes you cry. | | http://faq.mrball.net | --Howard Chu |