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I tried for 2 days.But I couldn't.<= /DIV>

Please help me.

I use :

majordomo-1.94.5

And also the permission for :<= /DIV>

list drwxr-x--x =

majordomo-1.94.5 =20 drwxr-x--x

lists drwxr-x--x=

visolvegroup =20 -rw-r--r--

Thanks,

Durai. ( durairaj@visolve.com)

= ------=_NextPart_000_00F3_01C2B4F5.53F00020-- From majordomo-users-owner@greatcircle.com Sun Jan 5 06:45:35 2003 Received: from sage-american.com (adsl-65-71-135-139.dsl.crchtx.swbell.net [65.71.135.139]) by mycroft.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 86FC71959D9 for ; Sun, 5 Jan 2003 06:45:27 -0800 (PST) Received: from sagea (sagea.sage-american [192.168.0.3]) by sage-american.com (8.12.6/8.12.6) with SMTP id h05EjOge036494; Sun, 5 Jan 2003 08:45:25 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from jackstone@sage-one.net) Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.20030105084524.011ef950@mail.sage-one.net> X-Sender: jackstone@mail.sage-one.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.5 (32) Date: Sun, 05 Jan 2003 08:45:24 -0600 To: Daniel Liston From: "Jack L. Stone" Subject: Re: Moving MJ lists to another server Cc: majordomo-users@greatcircle.com In-Reply-To: <3E0F876D.9060308@sonny.org> References: <3.0.5.32.20021229110222.0118b548@mail.sage-one.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-1.3 required=4.0 tests=IN_REP_TO,QUOTED_EMAIL_TEXT,REFERENCES,SPAM_PHRASE_00_01 version=2.43-jlsrules1 X-Archive-Number: 200301/18 X-Sequence-Number: 2518 At 05:38 PM 12.29.2002 -0600, Daniel Liston wrote: >IF your majordomo user and group are the same on both machines, you can >just tar up the lists digests and archives directories from OLD and extract >on NEW. Make sure you get any applicable crontab entries and of course the >aliases file containing your lists, and if hosting, your virtusertable too. >Sorry, I am also assUming your directory structure is the same on both the >OLD and NEW servers, and MX records are properly set to get mail that would >have gone to the OLD server redirected to the NEW server. > >If your directory structure and/or your majordomo uid:gid are not the same >across both machines, you have a horse of a different color. > >Step 1. Sendmail on NEW recognizes all the domains it is serving. >Step 2. Sendmail security allows majordomo to work on the NEW server. >Step 3. List and config files are copied with proper ownership and permissions. >Step 4. Archives and digest work directories are copied into their place. >Step 5. Activate the relocated lists by rebuilding aliases [and virtusertable]. >optional >Step 6. Redirect mailing lists from OLD to NEW via mailertable on OLD until MX >records reflecting the changes kick in. > >You can do this one domain at a time, but moving all at once might be easiest. >I do not know your proceedure for provisioning domains, so Step 1 is crucial. > >Possible gotchas, are >1. uid:gid of majordomo between machines >2. MX records >3. crontab entries > >Dan Liston > >Jack L. Stone wrote: >> MOVING MAIL SERVER: >>>From OLD mail server: FreeBSD 4.5-RELEASE - majordomo-1.94.5 - Sendmail-8.11.6 >> To NEW mail server: FreeBSD 4.7-RELEASE - majordomo-1.94.5 - Sendmail-8.12.6 >> >> I need to relocate existing mail lists from one mail server to another (see >> above). Majordomo has been installed and is working on some test domains >> just fine - regular lists, digest & archives. >> >> Now, next I need to move the existing lists which have several thousand >> subscribers on each -- both regular and digests. >> >> My BIG questions are: >> >> 1. Would it be best to install the lists first, then copy over (using NFS) >> all of the various files (lists, archives, digests and configs) for each >> domain...?? >> >> I would be using the "-p" switch for the Unix copy command to keep the >> permissions the same. OR, can I just copy over to the new server ALL of the >> MJ directories for each domain rather than INSTALL them? Each domain has >> its own main directory under "/usr/local/majordomo/" >> >> In both cases, of course, the move will include updating the aliases and >> virtusertable, etc. Sendmail already knows that MJ is there. >> >> 2. AND, will the daily digests, archives in progress continue to work and >> just pick up where they left off on the old server...??? i.e., send out the >> next digest intact inclduing the messages setting in the work directories? >> ...and archive intact? Again, will copy over the SAME config files and SAME >> version of majordomo-1.94.5 >> >> Appreciate feedback on this as it's VERY important so as not to mess up the >> lists. >> I am pleased to report that all went very smoothly on the migration. I did not bother to tar up, but simply used NFS and copied over the files from one server to the other. Using "cp -Rp" does the job perfectly and keeps all of the permissions properly. So, no need to tar/untar. Thanks for the help..... Best regards, Jack L. Stone, Administrator SageOne Net http://www.sage-one.net jackstone@sage-one.net From majordomo-users-owner@greatcircle.com Sun Jan 5 09:41:33 2003 Received: from daniel.liston.nu (24-116-58-25.cpe.cableone.net [24.116.58.25]) by mycroft.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5C320195F42 for ; Sun, 5 Jan 2003 09:41:32 -0800 (PST) Received: from sonny.org (dad.liston.nu [192.168.1.60]) by daniel.liston.nu (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id h05HfUvg012395; Sun, 5 Jan 2003 11:41:31 -0600 Message-ID: <3E186E4E.3070400@sonny.org> Date: Sun, 05 Jan 2003 11:41:34 -0600 From: Daniel Liston User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.0.1) Gecko/20020823 Netscape/7.0 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: durairaj Cc: majordomo-users@greatcircle.com Subject: Re: Cannot open /opt/majordomo-1.94.5/lists/visolvegroup: World writable References: <00f601c2b4c7$3faf7470$1a0110ac@kovaiteam> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Archive-Number: 200301/19 X-Sequence-Number: 2519 The problem is "sendmail" complaining about "World writable directory". Since your lists are in /opt/majordomo-1.94-5/lists, you need to check /, /opt, /opt/majordomo-1.94.5, and /opt/majordomo-1.94-5/list for any permissions that allow group or world writes into those directories and remove them. Your other choice is to turn off sendmail's security and let it think world writable directories are safe. This would not be the best idea. Dan Liston durairaj wrote: > Hello experts, > > I have the following problem when I testing the majordomo: > > ----- Transcript of session follows ----- > 550 :include:/opt/majordomo-1.94.5/lists/visolvegroup... Cannot open > /opt/majordomo-1.94.5/lists/visolvegroup: World writable directory > Message delivered to mailing list > > 554 >... aliasing/forwarding loop broken > > I tried for 2 days.But I couldn't. > > Please help me. > > I use : > majordomo-1.94.5 > > And also the permission for : > list drwxr-x--x > majordomo-1.94.5 drwxr-x--x > lists drwxr-x--x > visolvegroup -rw-r--r-- > > Thanks, > Durai. ( durairaj@visolve.com ) From majordomo-users-owner@greatcircle.com Sun Jan 5 09:57:56 2003 Received: from aoit.whs.edu (aoit.whs.edu [169.227.254.67]) by mycroft.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id CF41F195F42 for ; Sun, 5 Jan 2003 09:57:53 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (kmoch@localhost) by aoit.whs.edu (8.12.2/8.12.2) with ESMTP id h05Hvrn8011787 for ; Sun, 5 Jan 2003 11:57:53 -0600 (CST) Date: Sun, 5 Jan 2003 11:57:53 -0600 (CST) From: Joe Kmoch To: majordomo-users@greatcircle.com Subject: comments in subscriber list Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Archive-Number: 200301/20 X-Sequence-Number: 2520 Is there any way to include comments (like the person's actual name) in the file which maintains the subscriber list for a particular list? I was given a list of people with this kind of information for a list I was asked to create. I used the # character as a comment character, but majordomo always sends back an error message indicating that it doesn't understand a line like #Joe Kmoch or whater the comment is. I may be overlooking over something really obvious, but right now I'm at a loss. Thanks! Joe -- Joe Kmoch Washington High School Director, Academy of Information Technology 2525 N. Sherman Blvd kmoch@whs.edu Milwaukee, WI 53210 (414) 875-5982 (desk) (414) 875-5900 (school) (414) 875-5980 (academy) (414) 875-5915 (fax) From majordomo-users-owner@greatcircle.com Sun Jan 5 10:18:31 2003 Received: from embrace.selwerd.nl (flits103-188.flits.rug.nl [129.125.103.188]) by mycroft.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 66917195FA6 for ; Sun, 5 Jan 2003 10:18:29 -0800 (PST) Received: from ephedra (ephedra.selwerd.lan [192.168.0.189]) by embrace.selwerd.nl (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id h05IINi21760 for ; Sun, 5 Jan 2003 19:18:23 +0100 Message-ID: <003b01c2b4e7$09280d20$bd00a8c0@ephedra> From: "Tozz" To: Subject: Moderated list not really that moderated Date: Sun, 5 Jan 2003 19:19:50 +0100 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 X-Archive-Number: 200301/21 X-Sequence-Number: 2521 Hello, I am using majordomo for quite some time for non moderated lists. I felt it was time to add a moderated one :) The moderated list works fine, if I mail to test@lists.test.com it gets bounched with 'Needs approval' blbla. If I approve it it goes over the list. no problem. THe problem I do have has to do with the aliases file. My /etc/aliases has some entries for the list test: list-test: "|/opt/majordomo/wrapper resend -l test test-list" test-list: :include:/opt/majordomo/lists/test owner-test: test@test.com test-request: "|/opt/majordomo/wrapper request-answer test" test-approval: test@test.com The problem is that if I send an e-mail to test-list@lists.test.com, the e-mail is send to the list without any approval. I cannot remove the entry in /etc/aliases because majordomo mails to this aliases when the mail is approved. Any one has any idea how to fix this? bye Tozz From majordomo-users-owner@greatcircle.com Sun Jan 5 10:40:58 2003 Received: from daniel.liston.nu (24-116-58-25.cpe.cableone.net [24.116.58.25]) by mycroft.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 91552195B08 for ; Sun, 5 Jan 2003 10:40:55 -0800 (PST) Received: from sonny.org (dad.liston.nu [192.168.1.60]) by daniel.liston.nu (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id h05Iesvg012774; Sun, 5 Jan 2003 12:40:54 -0600 Message-ID: <3E187C3A.9080103@sonny.org> Date: Sun, 05 Jan 2003 12:40:58 -0600 From: Daniel Liston User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.0.1) Gecko/20020823 Netscape/7.0 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Joe Kmoch Cc: majordomo-users@greatcircle.com Subject: Re: comments in subscriber list References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Archive-Number: 200301/22 X-Sequence-Number: 2522 There is a difference between a comment in a unix file, and a comment in an email address itself. I could list several of the numerous combinations of allowed comment syntax, but you would be better off reading RFC822. If you want comments in the actual list file for new members, you can change your config file to strip=no from it's default. # strip [bool] (yes) # When adding address to the list, strip off all comments etc, and # put just the raw address in the list file. In addition to the # keyword, if the file .strip exists, it is the same as # specifying a yes value. That yes value is overridden by the value # of this keyword. strip = yes Dan Liston Joe Kmoch wrote: > Is there any way to include comments (like the person's actual name) in > the file which maintains the subscriber list for a particular list? > > I was given a list of people with this kind of information for a list I > was asked to create. I used the # character as a comment character, but > majordomo always sends back an error message indicating that it doesn't > understand a line like #Joe Kmoch or whater the comment is. > > I may be overlooking over something really obvious, but right now I'm at a > loss. From majordomo-users-owner@greatcircle.com Sun Jan 5 11:05:47 2003 Received: from daniel.liston.nu (24-116-58-25.cpe.cableone.net [24.116.58.25]) by mycroft.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2395A195AB7 for ; Sun, 5 Jan 2003 11:05:46 -0800 (PST) Received: from sonny.org (dad.liston.nu [192.168.1.60]) by daniel.liston.nu (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id h05J4Avg012864; Sun, 5 Jan 2003 13:04:11 -0600 Message-ID: <3E1881AF.9030704@sonny.org> Date: Sun, 05 Jan 2003 13:04:15 -0600 From: Daniel Liston User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.0.1) Gecko/20020823 Netscape/7.0 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Tozz Cc: majordomo-users@greatcircle.com Subject: Re: Moderated list not really that moderated References: <003b01c2b4e7$09280d20$bd00a8c0@ephedra> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Archive-Number: 200301/23 X-Sequence-Number: 2523 This has been discussed several times here, but since it is not in the FAQ and the archives are not that easy to search, here is what you do: I have to make some assumptions, that you are using sendmail as your MTA, and that the list-test alias is a typo meaning test. 1. Enable virtusertable in your sendmail.cf file. You can edit the file directly, but it is strongly recommended that you modify the sendmail.mc file, and use the m4 tool to create your sendmail.cf from that file. In sendmail.mc, add the line; FEATURE(`virtusertable',`hash -o /etc/mail/virtusertable')dnl if you are on solaris, the line should read FEATURE(`virtusertable',`dbm /etc/mail/virtusertable')dnl Then use the m4 command like this; m4 /path/to/sendmail.mc > /etc/sendmail.cf or m4 /path/to/sendmail.mc > /etc/mail/sendmail.cf depending on what version of sendmail you are running on what OS. 2. Change the test alias so it does not advertise your test-list alias. test: "|/opt/majordomo/wrapper resend -l test test-list,nobody" This also assumes you have a nobody: /dev/null alias. 3. Add this line to /etc/mail/virtusertable using at least one character in the white space between columns. test-list@test.com error:nouser User unknown 4. Any time you modify aliases or virtusertable, the databases need to be refreshed/rebuilt. For aliases the command is; newaliases or sendmail -bi and for the virtusertable, again depending on OS and sendmail version; makemap hash /etc/mail/virtusertable < /etc/mail/virtusertable or makemap dbm /etc/mail/virtusertable < /etc/mail/virtusertable Dan Liston Tozz wrote: > Hello, > > I am using majordomo for quite some time for non moderated lists. I felt it > was time to add a moderated one :) > > The moderated list works fine, if I mail to test@lists.test.com it gets > bounched with 'Needs approval' blbla. If I approve it it goes over the > list. no problem. > > THe problem I do have has to do with the aliases file. My /etc/aliases has > some entries for the list test: > > list-test: "|/opt/majordomo/wrapper resend -l test test-list" > test-list: :include:/opt/majordomo/lists/test > owner-test: test@test.com > test-request: "|/opt/majordomo/wrapper request-answer test" > test-approval: test@test.com > > The problem is that if I send an e-mail to test-list@lists.test.com, the > e-mail is send to the list without any approval. > > I cannot remove the entry in /etc/aliases because majordomo mails to this > aliases when the mail is approved. > > Any one has any idea how to fix this? > > bye > Tozz > From majordomo-users-owner@greatcircle.com Sun Jan 5 11:40:56 2003 Received: from embrace.selwerd.nl (flits103-188.flits.rug.nl [129.125.103.188]) by mycroft.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4C535195AFA for ; Sun, 5 Jan 2003 11:40:54 -0800 (PST) Received: from ephedra (ephedra.selwerd.lan [192.168.0.189]) by embrace.selwerd.nl (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id h05Jeli24283 for ; Sun, 5 Jan 2003 20:40:47 +0100 Message-ID: <00e201c2b4f2$8cb0af70$bd00a8c0@ephedra> From: "Tozz" To: References: <003b01c2b4e7$09280d20$bd00a8c0@ephedra> <3E1881AF.9030704@sonny.org> Subject: Re: Moderated list not really that moderated Date: Sun, 5 Jan 2003 20:42:15 +0100 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 X-Archive-Number: 200301/24 X-Sequence-Number: 2524 Hello, > I have to make some assumptions, that you are using sendmail as your > MTA, and that the list-test alias is a typo meaning test. I do run sendmail, but list-test is not a typo meaning test. > 1. Enable virtusertable in your sendmail.cf file. Already using virtusertable. So that part works. > 2. Change the test alias so it does not advertise your test-list > alias. test: "|/opt/majordomo/wrapper resend -l test test-list,nobody" > This also assumes you have a nobody: /dev/null alias. The same line (except for the ,nobody part) is already there for: list-test: "|/opt/majordomo/wrapper resend -l test test-list" so if I would add test: "|/opt/majordomo/wrapper resend -l test test-list,nobody" But I tested this setup but as I thought... I get a no such user because the user 'test-list' gets bounched back with 'No such user'. > 3. Add this line to /etc/mail/virtusertable using at least one > character in the white space between columns. > test-list@test.com error:nouser User unknown ... See above :) Bye Tozz From majordomo-users-owner@greatcircle.com Sun Jan 5 11:50:22 2003 Received: from pali.cps.cmich.edu (pali.cps.cmich.edu [141.209.131.81]) by mycroft.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2B987195AFA for ; Sun, 5 Jan 2003 11:50:21 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (ishwar@localhost) by pali.cps.cmich.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h05Jggx29455 for ; Sun, 5 Jan 2003 14:42:42 -0500 Date: Sun, 5 Jan 2003 14:42:42 -0500 (EST) From: Ish Rattan To: Majordomo-users Subject: Question about sendmail-8.12.5 In-Reply-To: <3E094295.9030202@sonny.org> Message-ID: References: <3E094295.9030202@sonny.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Archive-Number: 200301/25 X-Sequence-Number: 2525 Just installed Mandrake-9.0 and it installs sendmail-8.12.5 as alternate MTA. Is there info on how to make Majordomo work with it -- there are no /etc/mail/aliases and /etc/aliases.db files? So where to put and tell sendmail about majordomo?? -ishwar From majordomo-users-owner@greatcircle.com Sun Jan 5 12:14:12 2003 Received: from daniel.liston.nu (24-116-58-25.cpe.cableone.net [24.116.58.25]) by mycroft.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 841C8195F94 for ; Sun, 5 Jan 2003 12:13:02 -0800 (PST) Received: from sonny.org (dad.liston.nu [192.168.1.60]) by daniel.liston.nu (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id h05KD1vg013143 for ; Sun, 5 Jan 2003 14:13:01 -0600 Message-ID: <3E1891D2.3060804@sonny.org> Date: Sun, 05 Jan 2003 14:13:06 -0600 From: Daniel Liston User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.0.2) Gecko/20021120 Netscape/7.01 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: majordomo-users@greatcircle.com Subject: Re: Moderated list not really that moderated References: <003b01c2b4e7$09280d20$bd00a8c0@ephedra> <3E1881AF.9030704@sonny.org> <00e201c2b4f2$8cb0af70$bd00a8c0@ephedra> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Archive-Number: 200301/26 X-Sequence-Number: 2526 Tozz wrote: > Hello, > > >>I have to make some assumptions, that you are using sendmail as your >>MTA, and that the list-test alias is a typo meaning test. > > > I do run sendmail, but list-test is not a typo meaning test. If it is not a typo, it should be. Everything else in your aliases file references your list's name as test, not list-test. > > >>1. Enable virtusertable in your sendmail.cf file. > > Already using virtusertable. So that part works. Perfect, this will save some effort on your part then. > > >>2. Change the test alias so it does not advertise your test-list >>alias. test: "|/opt/majordomo/wrapper resend -l test test-list,nobody" >>This also assumes you have a nobody: /dev/null alias. > > > The same line (except for the ,nobody part) is already there for: > list-test: "|/opt/majordomo/wrapper resend -l test test-list" The -l test part of the resend line implies that your listname is test, which requires an alias by that same name, not list-test. > > so if I would add > test: "|/opt/majordomo/wrapper resend -l test test-list,nobody" This would not be an add, it would be a replace. Unless you are not disclosing some other information as to why list-test is required. > > But I tested this setup but as I thought... I get a no such user because the > user 'test-list' gets bounched back with 'No such user'. That is what is supposed to happen, and that is what prevents people from writing to the test-list alias instead of the "test:" alias. > > >>3. Add this line to /etc/mail/virtusertable using at least one >>character in the white space between columns. >>test-list@test.com error:nouser User unknown > > > ... See above :) Same comment. That is what you want to happen. Your original question was that a moderated list was not moderated because anyone could write to test-list@test.com. Your list members are not supposed to do this. They are supposed to be writing to test, or in your case list-test. By bouncing the message as unknown user, only the proper address is allowed. The proper address goes through resend, which in turn provides moderation. If you are the moderator, even you are supposed to send approved messages back to the (in your case) list-test (not test-list) address. Are you starting to see why list-test should be named "test"? Dan Liston From majordomo-users-owner@greatcircle.com Sun Jan 5 19:56:28 2003 Received: from daniel.liston.nu (24-116-58-25.cpe.cableone.net [24.116.58.25]) by mycroft.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 596E71959E6 for ; Sun, 5 Jan 2003 19:56:26 -0800 (PST) Received: from sonny.org (dad.liston.nu [192.168.1.60]) by daniel.liston.nu (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id h063uKvg015396; Sun, 5 Jan 2003 21:56:21 -0600 Message-ID: <3E18FE69.2050607@sonny.org> Date: Sun, 05 Jan 2003 21:56:25 -0600 From: Daniel Liston User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.0.2) Gecko/20021120 Netscape/7.01 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Ish Rattan Cc: Majordomo-users Subject: Re: Question about sendmail-8.12.5 References: <3E094295.9030202@sonny.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Archive-Number: 200301/27 X-Sequence-Number: 2527 Perhaps there is an interface somewhere to configure which MTA you wish to select, and by making the sendmail selection, these files and directories get moved into the proper places. Sorry, I have never used Mandrake. Perhaps someone else here has a clue in that regard. Dan Liston Ish Rattan wrote: > Just installed Mandrake-9.0 and it installs sendmail-8.12.5 as > alternate MTA. Is there info on how to make Majordomo work with > it -- there are no /etc/mail/aliases and /etc/aliases.db files? > So where to put and tell sendmail about majordomo?? > > -ishwar From majordomo-users-owner@greatcircle.com Sun Jan 5 22:05:40 2003 Received: from visolve.com (adsl-63-194-81-67.dsl.snfc21.pacbell.net [63.194.81.67]) by mycroft.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id AFDDC195A8B for ; Sun, 5 Jan 2003 22:05:38 -0800 (PST) Received: from dumnx ([203.129.254.138]) by visolve.com (8.10.1/8.10.1) with SMTP id h067GSE04397 for ; Sun, 5 Jan 2003 23:16:29 -0800 Message-ID: <020c01c2b549$c37b1a20$1a0110ac@kovaiteam> From: "durairaj" To: Subject: Majordomo works... Date: Mon, 6 Jan 2003 11:36:27 +0530 Organization: visolve.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0207_01C2B577.D9A91DF0" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2314.1300 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 X-Archive-Number: 200301/28 X-Sequence-Number: 2528 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0207_01C2B577.D9A91DF0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hello Dan Liston, =20 Like you told, I checked the file permission for majord= omo. Finally I removed the write permission for group and others.It works = good.Thanks for your help. =20 Thanks, Durai. ( durairaj@visolve.com ). ------=_NextPart_000_0207_01C2B577.D9A91DF0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Hello Dan Liston,

=20 Like you told, I= =20 checked the file permission for majordomo. Finally I removed the= =20 write permission for group and others.It works good.Thanks for your=20 help.

Thanks,

Durai. ( durairaj@visolve.com=20 ).

------=_NextPart_000_0207_01C2B577.D9A91DF0-- From majordomo-users-owner@greatcircle.com Sun Jan 5 22:57:44 2003 Received: from trip.mrball.net (66-214-180-43.la-cbi.charterpipeline.net [66.214.180.43]) by mycroft.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6EA3F195A1A for ; Sun, 5 Jan 2003 22:57:42 -0800 (PST) Received: by trip.mrball.net (Postfix, from userid 501) id C6C3D2C0AA; Mon, 6 Jan 2003 01:57:41 -0500 (EST) Date: Sun, 5 Jan 2003 22:57:41 -0800 From: Todd Lyons To: Majordomo-users Subject: Re: Question about sendmail-8.12.5 Message-ID: <20030106065741.GC20327@mrball.net> Mail-Followup-To: Majordomo-users References: <3E094295.9030202@sonny.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; x-action=pgp-signed Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: Organization: Progressive Linux Consultants X-mailer-flag: Outlook? Viral infections & bugs non-stop! Use another mailer if you value your data. User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.3i X-Archive-Number: 200301/29 X-Sequence-Number: 2529 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Ish Rattan wanted us to know: > >Just installed Mandrake-9.0 and it installs sendmail-8.12.5 as >alternate MTA. Is there info on how to make Majordomo work with >it -- there are no /etc/mail/aliases and /etc/aliases.db files? >So where to put and tell sendmail about majordomo?? Normally, aliases.db is in the same directory that aliases is in. It should all be in /etc/mail IIRC. Best thing to do is to look in sendmail.cf to see where it expects aliases to be. - -- Blue skies... Todd | Get a bigger hammer! | PPPoE: the internet for people who | | http://www.mrball.net | don't want the Internet. | | http://faq.mrball.net | --Aaron Lehmann | Linux kernel 2.4.19-16mdk 1 user, load average: 0.06, 0.05, 0.16 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.7 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE+GSjlIBT1264ScBURAoxuAJ9SFTMglNWcsece2nfvNtTAuuGGHQCfZxXy pLnE/cjQqBozjAJm+8/24aU= =DCvh -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From majordomo-users-owner@greatcircle.com Sun Jan 5 23:21:24 2003 Received: from trip.mrball.net (66-214-180-43.la-cbi.charterpipeline.net [66.214.180.43]) by mycroft.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9DA29195F5D for ; Sun, 5 Jan 2003 23:21:23 -0800 (PST) Received: by trip.mrball.net (Postfix, from userid 501) id 6B55A2C0AA; Mon, 6 Jan 2003 02:21:23 -0500 (EST) Date: Sun, 5 Jan 2003 23:21:23 -0800 From: Todd Lyons To: majordomo-users@greatcircle.com Subject: Re: Moderated list not really that moderated Message-ID: <20030106072123.GA17369@mrball.net> Mail-Followup-To: majordomo-users@greatcircle.com References: <003b01c2b4e7$09280d20$bd00a8c0@ephedra> <3E1881AF.9030704@sonny.org> <00e201c2b4f2$8cb0af70$bd00a8c0@ephedra> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; x-action=pgp-signed Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <00e201c2b4f2$8cb0af70$bd00a8c0@ephedra> Organization: Progressive Linux Consultants X-mailer-flag: Outlook? Viral infections & bugs non-stop! Use another mailer if you value your data. User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.3i X-Archive-Number: 200301/30 X-Sequence-Number: 2530 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Tozz wanted us to know: >> 3. Add this line to /etc/mail/virtusertable using at least one >> character in the white space between columns. >> test-list@test.com error:nouser User unknown >... See above :) That's exactly the point. When the message comes from the outside, it goes through the virtusertable and has those rules applied. If the message comes internally, then it gets directly expanded from aliases file (because I presume it has already been processed once for the original incoming mail). Blue skies... Todd - -- Are there any plans to allow different levels of protection in the firewall? Right now the iptables rules are too strict to function properly on a windows network without manually adjusting the rules. --Cooker ML Oct 2002 Linux kernel 2.4.19-16mdk 1 user, load average: 0.00, 0.01, 0.08 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.7 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE+GS5zIBT1264ScBURAnV2AKDCfGJkCo10rTgD1dScTFJu40MyOgCfczek 6hfB9k5LyU/RLiSczXEqmKY= =0KmH -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From majordomo-users-owner@greatcircle.com Mon Jan 6 02:44:06 2003 Received: from planet.fef.com (unknown [166.90.172.7]) by mycroft.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 30DB5195F14 for ; Mon, 6 Jan 2003 02:44:05 -0800 (PST) Received: from planet.fef.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by planet.fef.com (8.12.7/8.12.7/check_local-5) with ESMTP id h06AhuSP028284; Mon, 6 Jan 2003 02:43:56 -0800 Received: (from alvin@localhost) by planet.fef.com (8.12.7/8.12.4/Submit) id h06AhtfX028283; Mon, 6 Jan 2003 02:43:55 -0800 From: Alvin Oga Message-Id: <200301061043.h06AhtfX028283@planet.fef.com> Subject: Re: mj + /var/spool/mail - not spamassassin To: dliston@sonny.org (Daniel Liston) Date: Mon, 6 Jan 2003 02:43:55 -0800 (PST) Cc: alvin@planet.fef.com (Alvin Oga), majordomo-users@greatcircle.com In-Reply-To: <3E1774B6.3060100@sonny.org> from "Daniel Liston" at Jan 04, 2003 05:56:38 PM X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.5 PL1] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Archive-Number: 200301/31 X-Sequence-Number: 2531 hi ya dan > Perhaps majordomo could see it if it was stored elsewhere, such > as /var/lib/majordomo/archive/AntiSpam. Or you could treat the > spamcollector alias an an archived mailing list. yes... already does ... and is also an autoresponder so the user/submittor knows their spam was received > Why does majordomo have to see the spam mail at all? If all you > need to do is preserve the headers with multiple recipients in an > archive, you could just make an aliase like this; > > spamcollector: /location/of/archive/spamcollector the problem is /var/spool/mail/spamcollector is needed before it can be moved to /location/of/archive/spamcollector > The n-tuple users is difficult to prove one way or another anyway, > as every single address can be a multiple recipient address. The the multiple recepients will have the same originating "fake spam" addy > argument would be, that each address in the To: or Cc: headers > only represents the viewable recipients, and does not account for > Bcc: recipients, or the fact that each viewable address coulc be > a multiple recipient alias. > > Lots of great antispam tools, configurations, and ideas can be > found on the abuse.net list called spamtools. I would be happy i was subscribed to a couple of "spamtools" list.. think both were heavily moderated ... i gave up on it... since none of my replies/posts made it thru ... a year later, am still looking for "gpl'd spamtools" that can withstand scrutiny from the courts ( it'd be a long process ... but thats the goal > to discuss/share any anti-spam work you care to share. I am not > activist in this area, other than spamcop reporting for the momemt, > but I do take lots of anti-spam measures in my own domains. If I > thought I could get rich in court, I may become more aggressive in > this area. :) no looking for get rich ... more along the lines of helping others stop spam and also a place where they can report their spam to stop it at the source antispam stuff http://www.Linux-Sec.net/Mail/AntiSpam - yet another place to report spam to ( like spamcop and others ) http://www.UCEAS.net ( when all the kinks is worked out ) -- yes i know its getting off topic... thanx for your patiences c ya alvin From majordomo-users-owner@greatcircle.com Mon Jan 6 02:48:37 2003 Received: from planet.fef.com (unknown [166.90.172.7]) by mycroft.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 38BE7195FF8 for ; Mon, 6 Jan 2003 02:48:35 -0800 (PST) Received: from planet.fef.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by planet.fef.com (8.12.7/8.12.7/check_local-5) with ESMTP id h06AmVSP028297; Mon, 6 Jan 2003 02:48:31 -0800 Received: (from alvin@localhost) by planet.fef.com (8.12.7/8.12.4/Submit) id h06AmVrf028296; Mon, 6 Jan 2003 02:48:31 -0800 From: Alvin Oga Message-Id: <200301061048.h06AmVrf028296@planet.fef.com> Subject: Re: mj + /var/spool/mail - mailscanner To: David.While@uce.ac.uk Date: Mon, 6 Jan 2003 02:48:31 -0800 (PST) Cc: majordomo-users@greatcircle.com In-Reply-To: from "David.While@uce.ac.uk" at Jan 05, 2003 12:16:46 PM X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.5 PL1] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Archive-Number: 200301/32 X-Sequence-Number: 2532 hi ya david am not looking to scan the users maillogs.. nor am i looking to scan my maillog files > I'm not sure the courts would allow mail to had been "manipulated" to be > used as evidence - how do they know your software hasn't changed some of that is the trick questions .... that is the point of all the software and "some appsl called this email a spam" or not... i'm not in that loop ... ( spam detection ) and whether someone knows how to read maillogs and headers or not is a separate issue ... and when the same spam shows up on several users inbox on various continents... its spam .. esp if the user said it was spam in addition by their act of reporting it c ya alvin - am more than happy to discuss the goals/ideas/code offline ... > the info. You are better to use standard tools to detect spam and then use > these to gain evidence. The system I use is MailScanner > (www.mailscanner.info) together with spamassassin. > > MailScanner is highly configurable and will log details to the standard > mail logs it is highly proven and there are analysis packages available for > it. I analyse my mail log and produce statistics which you can view at > http://www.boys-brigade.org.uk/mrtg/ > > ----------------------------------------------------------------- > David While > Technical Development Manager > Faculty of Computing, Information & English > University of Central England > Tel: 0121 331 6211 > From majordomo-users-owner@greatcircle.com Mon Jan 6 06:11:35 2003 Received: from pali.cps.cmich.edu (pali.cps.cmich.edu [141.209.131.81]) by mycroft.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id DA73619619D for ; Mon, 6 Jan 2003 06:11:32 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (ishwar@localhost) by pali.cps.cmich.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h06E3ll31858 for ; Mon, 6 Jan 2003 09:03:47 -0500 Date: Mon, 6 Jan 2003 09:03:47 -0500 (EST) From: Ish Rattan To: Majordomo-users Subject: Re: Question about sendmail-8.12.5 In-Reply-To: <3E18FE69.2050607@sonny.org> Message-ID: References: <3E094295.9030202@sonny.org> <3E18FE69.2050607@sonny.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Archive-Number: 200301/33 X-Sequence-Number: 2533 I was not looking hard enough, it has been moved to /etc/aliases Sorry for generating useles traffic -ishwar On Sun, 5 Jan 2003, Daniel Liston wrote: > Perhaps there is an interface somewhere to configure which MTA > you wish to select, and by making the sendmail selection, these > files and directories get moved into the proper places. Sorry, > I have never used Mandrake. Perhaps someone else here has a > clue in that regard. > > Dan Liston > From majordomo-users-owner@greatcircle.com Mon Jan 6 06:30:09 2003 Received: from sage-american.com (adsl-65-71-135-139.dsl.crchtx.swbell.net [65.71.135.139]) by mycroft.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A3297195BB6 for ; Mon, 6 Jan 2003 06:30:05 -0800 (PST) Received: from sagea (sagea.sage-american [192.168.0.3]) by sage-american.com (8.12.6/8.12.6) with SMTP id h06EU3J7044342; Mon, 6 Jan 2003 08:30:03 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from jacks@sage-american.com) Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.20030106083005.011bea28@192.168.0.5> X-Sender: jacks@192.168.0.5 X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.5 (32) Date: Mon, 06 Jan 2003 08:30:05 -0600 To: Alvin Oga , dliston@sonny.org (Daniel Liston) From: "Jack L. Stone" Subject: Re: mj + /var/spool/mail - not spamassassin Cc: alvin@planet.fef.com (Alvin Oga), majordomo-users@greatcircle.com In-Reply-To: <200301061043.h06AhtfX028283@planet.fef.com> References: <3E1774B6.3060100@sonny.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-1.0 required=4.5 tests=IN_REP_TO,QUOTED_EMAIL_TEXT,REFERENCES,SPAM_PHRASE_03_05 version=2.43-jlsrules1 X-Archive-Number: 200301/34 X-Sequence-Number: 2534 Alvin: You say: "...and is also an autoresponder so the user/submittor knows their spam was received..." Why bother your system sources with auto-replies tp spam since most (or many) of the spams have phoney "From" addresses....? or did I misunderstand? At 02:43 AM 1.6.2003 -0800, Alvin Oga wrote: > >hi ya dan > >> Perhaps majordomo could see it if it was stored elsewhere, such >> as /var/lib/majordomo/archive/AntiSpam. Or you could treat the >> spamcollector alias an an archived mailing list. > >yes... already does ... and is also an autoresponder so the user/submittor >knows their spam was received > >> Why does majordomo have to see the spam mail at all? If all you >> need to do is preserve the headers with multiple recipients in an >> archive, you could just make an aliase like this; >> >> spamcollector: /location/of/archive/spamcollector > >the problem is /var/spool/mail/spamcollector is needed before it >can be moved to /location/of/archive/spamcollector > >> The n-tuple users is difficult to prove one way or another anyway, >> as every single address can be a multiple recipient address. The > >the multiple recepients will have the same originating "fake spam" addy > >> argument would be, that each address in the To: or Cc: headers >> only represents the viewable recipients, and does not account for >> Bcc: recipients, or the fact that each viewable address coulc be >> a multiple recipient alias. >> >> Lots of great antispam tools, configurations, and ideas can be >> found on the abuse.net list called spamtools. I would be happy > >i was subscribed to a couple of "spamtools" list.. think both >were heavily moderated ... i gave up on it... since none of my >replies/posts made it thru ... a year later, am still looking for >"gpl'd spamtools" that can withstand scrutiny from the courts >( it'd be a long process ... but thats the goal > >> to discuss/share any anti-spam work you care to share. I am not >> activist in this area, other than spamcop reporting for the momemt, >> but I do take lots of anti-spam measures in my own domains. If I >> thought I could get rich in court, I may become more aggressive in >> this area. :) > >no looking for get rich ... more along the lines of helping >others stop spam and also a place where they can report their spam >to stop it at the source > >antispam stuff > http://www.Linux-Sec.net/Mail/AntiSpam > >- yet another place to report spam to ( like spamcop and others ) > http://www.UCEAS.net ( when all the kinks is worked out ) > >-- yes i know its getting off topic... > thanx for your patiences >c ya >alvin > > > Best regards, Jack L. Stone, Administrator Sage American http://www.sage-american.com jacks@sage-american.com From majordomo-users-owner@greatcircle.com Mon Jan 6 07:01:53 2003 Received: from planet.fef.com (unknown [166.90.172.7]) by mycroft.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4A8FD1959F4 for ; Mon, 6 Jan 2003 07:01:48 -0800 (PST) Received: from planet.fef.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by planet.fef.com (8.12.7/8.12.7/check_local-5) with ESMTP id h06F1iSP028788; Mon, 6 Jan 2003 07:01:44 -0800 Received: (from alvin@localhost) by planet.fef.com (8.12.7/8.12.4/Submit) id h06F1i8G028787; Mon, 6 Jan 2003 07:01:44 -0800 From: Alvin Oga Message-Id: <200301061501.h06F1i8G028787@planet.fef.com> Subject: Re: mj + /var/spool/mail - autoreply To: jacks@sage-american.com (Jack L. Stone) Date: Mon, 6 Jan 2003 07:01:44 -0800 (PST) Cc: alvin@planet.fef.com (Alvin Oga), majordomo-users@greatcircle.com In-Reply-To: <3.0.5.32.20030106083005.011bea28@192.168.0.5> from "Jack L. Stone" at Jan 06, 2003 08:30:05 AM X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.5 PL1] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Archive-Number: 200301/35 X-Sequence-Number: 2535 hi ya jack > Jack L. Stone wrote: > > Alvin: You say: > "...and is also an autoresponder so the user/submittor knows their spam was > received..." > > Why bother your system sources with auto-replies tp spam since most (or > many) of the spams have phoney "From" addresses....? or did I misunderstand? just my quirk... that if someone sends what they consider to be spam that the machine acknowledges its receipt... say the first 15 lines of their incoming emails.. ( rest of the spam is truncated on the autoreply as there is no point to send/include their orig mail back to them ) - the auto reply is sent to the "user" ( the one receiving the spam and reporting it ) - it uses a modified new-list from majordomo to do it.. ( relatively trivial changes ) c ya alvin > >antispam stuff > > http://www.Linux-Sec.net/Mail/AntiSpam > > > >- yet another place to report spam to ( like spamcop and others ) > > http://www.UCEAS.net ( when all the kinks is worked out ) > > > >-- yes i know its getting off topic... > > thanx for your patiences From majordomo-users-owner@greatcircle.com Mon Jan 6 07:21:12 2003 Received: from sage-american.com (adsl-65-71-135-139.dsl.crchtx.swbell.net [65.71.135.139]) by mycroft.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id EB1DB1959F4 for ; Mon, 6 Jan 2003 07:21:09 -0800 (PST) Received: from sagea (sagea.sage-american [192.168.0.3]) by sage-american.com (8.12.6/8.12.6) with SMTP id h06FL7J7044595; Mon, 6 Jan 2003 09:21:08 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from jackstone@sage-one.net) Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.20030106092109.011ef950@mail.sage-one.net> X-Sender: jackstone@mail.sage-one.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.5 (32) Date: Mon, 06 Jan 2003 09:21:09 -0600 To: Alvin Oga , jacks@sage-american.com (Jack L. Stone) From: "Jack L. Stone" Subject: Re: mj + /var/spool/mail - autoreply Cc: alvin@planet.fef.com (Alvin Oga), majordomo-users@greatcircle.com In-Reply-To: <200301061501.h06F1i8G028787@planet.fef.com> References: <3.0.5.32.20030106083005.011bea28@192.168.0.5> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-1.6 required=4.5 tests=IN_REP_TO,QUOTED_EMAIL_TEXT,REFERENCES,SPAM_PHRASE_01_02 version=2.43-jlsrules1 X-Archive-Number: 200301/36 X-Sequence-Number: 2536 Alvin: Finally have MJ working with sendmail-8.12.6.... actually wound up moving to a whole new mail server and tested the copy-over of each list one at a time. I think my problem (if you recall) on the other server where I was trying to update from sendmail-8.11.6 to 8.12.6 was that I was using a catchall "@adomain.tld" for each host/vhost. This is because the moment I added that catchall to the new mail server, MJ quit cold. Includes would not work! But, I'm glad I did it this way because I wanted to install SpamAssassin and it takes a lot of resources. Also, was concerned about the mail lists getting along with SA too. LOVE, SpamAssassin.... Sorry if this drifted OT a little.... (Dan, you might want to know though) At 07:01 AM 1.6.2003 -0800, Alvin Oga wrote: > >hi ya jack > >> Jack L. Stone wrote: >> >> Alvin: You say: >> "...and is also an autoresponder so the user/submittor knows their spam was >> received..." >> >> Why bother your system sources with auto-replies tp spam since most (or >> many) of the spams have phoney "From" addresses....? or did I misunderstand? > >just my quirk... that if someone sends what they consider to be spam >that the machine acknowledges its receipt... say the first 15 lines >of their incoming emails.. ( rest of the spam is truncated on the autoreply >as there is no point to send/include their orig mail back to them ) > >- the auto reply is sent to the "user" ( the one receiving the spam and reporting it ) > >- it uses a modified new-list from majordomo to do it.. ( relatively trivial changes ) > >c ya >alvin > >> >antispam stuff >> > http://www.Linux-Sec.net/Mail/AntiSpam >> > >> >- yet another place to report spam to ( like spamcop and others ) >> > http://www.UCEAS.net ( when all the kinks is worked out ) >> > >> >-- yes i know its getting off topic... >> > thanx for your patiences > > Best regards, Jack L. Stone, Administrator SageOne Net http://www.sage-one.net jackstone@sage-one.net From majordomo-users-owner@greatcircle.com Mon Jan 6 08:02:09 2003 Received: from planet.fef.com (unknown [166.90.172.7]) by mycroft.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5AEEA1959E0 for ; Mon, 6 Jan 2003 08:02:08 -0800 (PST) Received: from planet.fef.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by planet.fef.com (8.12.7/8.12.7/check_local-5) with ESMTP id h06G1xSP028899; Mon, 6 Jan 2003 08:01:59 -0800 Received: (from alvin@localhost) by planet.fef.com (8.12.7/8.12.4/Submit) id h06G1x1K028898; Mon, 6 Jan 2003 08:01:59 -0800 From: Alvin Oga Message-Id: <200301061601.h06G1x1K028898@planet.fef.com> Subject: Re: mj + /var/spool/mail - includes To: jackstone@sage-one.net (Jack L. Stone) Date: Mon, 6 Jan 2003 08:01:59 -0800 (PST) Cc: majordomo-users@greatcircle.com In-Reply-To: <3.0.5.32.20030106092109.011ef950@mail.sage-one.net> from "Jack L. Stone" at Jan 06, 2003 09:21:09 AM X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.5 PL1] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Archive-Number: 200301/37 X-Sequence-Number: 2537 hi ya jack > Alvin: Finally have MJ working with sendmail-8.12.6.... actually wound up > moving to a whole new mail server and tested the copy-over of each list one > at a time. yeah. probably was a good thing to do.. > I think my problem (if you recall) on the other server where I was trying > to update from sendmail-8.11.6 to 8.12.6 was that I was using a catchall > "@adomain.tld" for each host/vhost. This is because the moment I added that > catchall to the new mail server, MJ quit cold. Includes would not work! "includes" should work ... i use it on my slack-7.x and slack-8.x boxes > LOVE, SpamAssassin.... cant stand anything that requires it to receive the spam in order to determin it was spam ... ( too late in my book )... and yes, there is a few of um that will get thru but 90% -95% can be rejected just based on the headers c ya alvin http://www.Linux-Consulting.com/Majordomo ... http://www.Linux-Sec.net/Mail/AntiSpam From majordomo-users-owner@greatcircle.com Tue Jan 7 12:19:37 2003 Received: from grebe.mail.pas.earthlink.net (grebe.mail.pas.earthlink.net [207.217.120.46]) by mycroft.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8AE8B195AD0 for ; Tue, 7 Jan 2003 12:19:36 -0800 (PST) Received: from h-66-167-131-108.phndaz91.covad.net ([66.167.131.108] helo=Vaio.earthlink.net) by grebe.mail.pas.earthlink.net with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #1) id 18W0CF-0005ig-00 for Majordomo-Users@GreatCircle.COM; Tue, 07 Jan 2003 12:19:35 -0800 Message-Id: <5.2.0.9.2.20030107131817.03760cc8@pop.youruniverse.com> X-Sender: bobbish@pop.youruniverse.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.0.9 Date: Tue, 07 Jan 2003 13:19:32 -0700 To: Majordomo-Users@GreatCircle.COM From: Bob Bish Subject: Forcing plain text Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed X-Archive-Number: 200301/38 X-Sequence-Number: 2538 Is there a way to get majordomo to strip html and other code, enhanced or stylized text, etc. and send out messages only in plain text? ...Bob From majordomo-users-owner@greatcircle.com Tue Jan 7 12:31:40 2003 Received: from syslang.net (209-6-241-147.c3-0.frm-ubr1.sbo-frm.ma.cable.rcn.com [209.6.241.147]) by mycroft.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 559DC195F20 for ; Tue, 7 Jan 2003 12:31:39 -0800 (PST) Received: from syslang.net (steveo@localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by syslang.net (8.12.6/8.12.6) with ESMTP id h07KVZTa002968; Tue, 7 Jan 2003 15:31:35 -0500 Received: from localhost (steveo@localhost) by syslang.net (8.12.6/8.12.5/Submit) with ESMTP id h07KVZ9R002964; Tue, 7 Jan 2003 15:31:35 -0500 Date: Tue, 7 Jan 2003 15:31:35 -0500 (EST) From: "Steven W. Orr" To: Bob Bish Cc: Majordomo-users Subject: Re: Forcing plain text In-Reply-To: <5.2.0.9.2.20030107131817.03760cc8@pop.youruniverse.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Archive-Number: 200301/39 X-Sequence-Number: 2539 On Tue, 7 Jan 2003, Bob Bish wrote: => Is there a way to get majordomo to strip html and other code, enhanced =>or stylized text, etc. and send out messages only in plain text? => =>...Bob I use demime. Pretty simple to set up. -- -Time flies like the wind. Fruit flies like a banana. Stranger things have - -happened but none stranger than this. Does your driver's license say Organ -Donor?Black holes are where God divided by zero. Listen to me! We are all- -individuals! What if this weren't a hypothetical question? steveo@syslang.net From majordomo-users-owner@greatcircle.com Tue Jan 7 12:54:12 2003 Received: from mail.speakeasy.net (mail11.speakeasy.net [216.254.0.211]) by mycroft.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 31329195F80 for ; Tue, 7 Jan 2003 12:54:11 -0800 (PST) Received: (qmail 3132 invoked from network); 7 Jan 2003 20:54:17 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO att.net) (w6go@[66.93.44.142]) (envelope-sender ) by mail11.speakeasy.net (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP for ; 7 Jan 2003 20:54:17 -0000 Message-ID: <3E1B3E71.9020108@att.net> Date: Tue, 07 Jan 2003 12:54:09 -0800 From: Jay O'Brien User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win98; en-US; rv:1.0.1) Gecko/20020823 Netscape/7.0 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Majordomo-Users@GreatCircle.COM Subject: Re: Forcing plain text References: <5.2.0.9.2.20030107131817.03760cc8@pop.youruniverse.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Archive-Number: 200301/40 X-Sequence-Number: 2540 Here's the link to the product you need: http://scifi.squawk.com/demime.html demime - A tool to scrub mime from mailing lists Jay O'Brien Bob Bish wrote: > Is there a way to get majordomo to strip html and other code, enhanced > or stylized text, etc. and send out messages only in plain text? > > ...Bob > > From majordomo-users-owner@greatcircle.com Tue Jan 7 13:03:35 2003 Received: from wrenkasky.com (esson.net [216.102.129.43]) by mycroft.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 47A81195FF7 for ; Tue, 7 Jan 2003 13:03:33 -0800 (PST) Received: from ekasky.wrenkasky.com (ekasky.priority.usc.edu [128.125.63.168]) by wrenkasky.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id h07L3Tpw011315 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NOT); Tue, 7 Jan 2003 13:03:30 -0800 Message-Id: <5.1.1.6.2.20030107125557.0463cf40@mail.esson.net> X-Sender: ed@mail.esson.net (Unverified) X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1.1 Date: Tue, 07 Jan 2003 13:01:34 -0800 To: Bob Bish From: Ed Kasky Subject: Re: Forcing plain text Cc: Majordomo-Users@greatcircle.com In-Reply-To: <5.2.0.9.2.20030107131817.03760cc8@pop.youruniverse.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed X-Archive-Number: 200301/41 X-Sequence-Number: 2541 As a matter of fact.... http://scifi.squawk.com/demime.html If you search the archives, you will find some lengthy discussions re: getting it to work with sendmail and smrsh enabled and the aliases needed to accomplish what you want. I have been using it very successfully for quite a while now. You can also strip plain text signature blocks using the demime_junkmail.cf. At 01:19 PM Tuesday, 1/7/2003, you wrote -=> > Is there a way to get majordomo to strip html and other code, enhanced > or stylized text, etc. and send out messages only in plain text? > >...Bob . . . . . . . . There is an easy answer to your problem that is neat, plausible, and wrong. From majordomo-users-owner@greatcircle.com Wed Jan 8 02:25:57 2003 Received: from visolve.com (adsl-63-194-81-67.dsl.snfc21.pacbell.net [63.194.81.67]) by mycroft.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id AFF3B1959EF for ; Wed, 8 Jan 2003 02:25:55 -0800 (PST) Received: from dumnx ([203.129.254.138]) by visolve.com (8.10.1/8.10.1) with SMTP id h08BaZE25928 for ; Wed, 8 Jan 2003 03:36:36 -0800 Message-ID: <00e501c2b700$7798f0b0$1a0110ac@kovaiteam> From: "durairaj" To: Subject: Problem: in run the installed majordomo files into another system Date: Wed, 8 Jan 2003 15:56:49 +0530 Organization: visolve.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_00E2_01C2B72E.8E1366D0" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2314.1300 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 X-Archive-Number: 200301/42 X-Sequence-Number: 2542 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_00E2_01C2B72E.8E1366D0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hello experts, I installed the majordomo-1.94.5 in HP-UX.The User id number : 200 and Gro= up id Number 200. I put all the installed files in another HP-UX System as the same installed= format already. Here the problem comes: In the another HP-UX system, there is no user in uid 200 and group id 200. = what to do? The Error comes like "Unknown User". After I create the user with 200 and group id 200, the majordomo works fine. Is there any other way for majordomo executables works in another system wi= thout doing extra works( like user creation and group creation ). Please help me. Thanks, Durai.=20 durairaj@visolve.com ------=_NextPart_000_00E2_01C2B72E.8E1366D0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Hello experts,

I installed the majordomo-1.94.5 in = HP-UX.The=20 User id number : 200 and Group id Number 200.
I put all the installed fi= les=20 in another HP-UX System as the same installed format already.

Here the problem comes:

In the another HP-UX system, there is no u= ser in=20 uid 200 and group id 200. what to do? The Error comes like "Unknown=20 User".

After I create the user with 200 and group= id 200,=20 the majordomo works fine.

Is there any other way for majordomo execu= tables=20 works in another system without doing extra works( like user creation and g= roup=20 creation ).

Please help me.

Thanks,
Durai.

durairaj@visolve.com
------=_NextPart_000_00E2_01C2B72E.8E1366D0-- From majordomo-users-owner@greatcircle.com Wed Jan 8 06:30:57 2003 Received: from 44615166.theo-phys.uni-essen.de (44615166.Theo-Phys.Uni-Essen.DE [132.252.73.246]) by mycroft.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id F0D6F1959F9 for ; Wed, 8 Jan 2003 06:30:53 -0800 (PST) Received: (from anja@localhost) by 44615166.theo-phys.uni-essen.de (8.11.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) id h08ES8m19400 for majordomo-users@greatcircle.com; Wed, 8 Jan 2003 15:28:08 +0100 Date: Wed, 8 Jan 2003 15:28:08 +0100 From: Anja Gerwinski To: majordomo-users@greatcircle.com Subject: maxlength filter skipped for non-members posts? Message-ID: <20030108152808.A19395@44615166.theo-phys.uni-essen.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.22.1i X-Archive-Number: 200301/43 X-Sequence-Number: 2543 Hello, I have a question concerning the configuration of Majordomo 2. I came here from the Majordomo 2 homepage and hope this is the right place to ask. I have set the following access_rules for the list "testliste": configset testliste access_rules <; Wed, 8 Jan 2003 06:31:39 -0800 (PST) Received: (from anja@localhost) by 44615166.theo-phys.uni-essen.de (8.11.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) id h08ESrO19406 for majordomo-users@greatcircle.com; Wed, 8 Jan 2003 15:28:53 +0100 Date: Wed, 8 Jan 2003 15:28:53 +0100 From: Anja Gerwinski To: majordomo-users@greatcircle.com Subject: Re: maxlength filter skipped for non-members posts? Message-ID: <20030108152853.B19395@44615166.theo-phys.uni-essen.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="k+w/mQv8wyuph6w0" Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.22.1i X-Archive-Number: 200301/44 X-Sequence-Number: 2544 --k+w/mQv8wyuph6w0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Sorry, forgot the _config file ... Anja --k+w/mQv8wyuph6w0 Content-Type: application/x-gunzip Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="_config.gz" Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64 H4sICKA0HD4AA19jb25maWcArVZtb9owEP7Or3AlVINUVYQOVtp1KpoqtK3r pErbtAGKvOQSsiYOjZNRWvjvs+PAyoshTrgPiRXfPbGfe61+794b6Aq9VNBS cEQmGF29X/n4SjCDxwSoBSZNgt8Qpbr4vN1s4BOFRUCefKBuPJK6RoOLUtn2 XGAxS1X723U2TIjnT/lihlrph1m6bDQ+89eZnX0y7Ex9hpaLwAtAdZD1n9zc futdoJiA63vWCNCvhJEgAOoQxhLq4hwoQzVBLIbIHHOoSRjZkqafH+7tHvU/ Wb3bVmdKRj++tm86YbfrAFOSRywLGDOjxAcdBqXxOGRxTjakgRVSx4sCLZuj 6y/dj3d52EpFSZkNDkn82PQJdRPiguTMVroTT0ahKemRqpYfMrD3hKHpcefq U7kIyQtkIP44a7/NfWH1jcMJhUjjKJjQP+Sa2ODDqQvRxKPswTvlDO03Hm5T mb8+GB6TSNC3o1CgrSyqlRUIgsgilqswf0M/CbIgMXQCdhMqvYxE0nLsusx1 LOfqI69UzNwkLRNIWmfpk5Kdm53SzhGdgXnPks2W0eR9oZhreFPiAUliiXTe flMYyAZmSTL2FfyCP+BXXpSrZqvTLHzQwKMLnIRyZxaEiXkL1K9vCjkAhKhb pfJzKa3DoJQH2VpNtQCK+nY6zgpVOugUAMlZo3ZVp42RRK9UYJ561oMpwvQg Udov5w1NV8iZqlz34mOWnbmx4jmoVqvyPj5G75BRR8fHAraWYteOqgGIiTx0 XgZYTFkDPK+Lrbp4ygNEECcRRX3jBA0W89sADy8rwteVxW5D7GYNIt0tkZGZ A0nyVLqLryOnk6QANQ4FqtWTC9rtShbdGQ+VGvOQujb9v9D8svIPB9iP+icO AAA= --k+w/mQv8wyuph6w0-- From majordomo-users-owner@greatcircle.com Wed Jan 8 08:17:55 2003 Received: from server.esolution.office (unknown [195.217.249.65]) by mycroft.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1121A195A79 for ; Wed, 8 Jan 2003 08:17:54 -0800 (PST) Received: from [192.168.202.182] ([192.168.202.182]) by server.esolution.office (8.11.3/8.11.3) with ESMTP id h08GYQx07966 for ; Wed, 8 Jan 2003 16:34:26 GMT Subject: aliasing an AOL address From: Andy Richards Reply-To: andy@esolution.co.uk To: majordomo-users@greatcircle.com Content-Type: text/plain Organization: eSolution Message-Id: <1042042592.3095.13.camel@andy.esolution.office> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Ximian Evolution 1.2.0 Date: 08 Jan 2003 16:16:33 +0000 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Archive-Number: 200301/45 X-Sequence-Number: 2545 Hi Can anyone help me. I have setup majordomo for my client hosting a specific domain. However they post to a closed list from an aol account. The message their clients recieve say from: foo@aol.com. Is it possible to change this to foo@mydomain.com, making this look a little more professional? thanks andy From majordomo-users-owner@greatcircle.com Wed Jan 8 08:32:14 2003 Received: from server.esolution.office (unknown [195.217.249.65]) by mycroft.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3407C195A79 for ; Wed, 8 Jan 2003 08:32:13 -0800 (PST) Received: from [192.168.202.182] ([192.168.202.182]) by server.esolution.office (8.11.3/8.11.3) with ESMTP id h08Gmjx07991 for ; Wed, 8 Jan 2003 16:48:45 GMT Subject: aliasing an AOL address From: Andy Richards Reply-To: andy@esolution.co.uk To: majordomo-users@greatcircle.com Content-Type: text/plain Organization: eSolution Message-Id: <1042043452.3095.20.camel@andy.esolution.office> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Ximian Evolution 1.2.0 Date: 08 Jan 2003 16:30:52 +0000 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Archive-Number: 200301/46 X-Sequence-Number: 2546 Hi Can anyone help me. I have setup majordomo for my client hosting a specific domain. However they post to a closed list from an aol account. The message their clients recieve say from: foo@aol.com. Is it possible to change this to foo@mydomain.com, making this look a little more professional? forgot to say we are using... version majordomo-1.94.5 version Perl v5.6.1 operating system redhat7.2 mailer sendmail-8.11.6-3 thanks andy From majordomo-users-owner@greatcircle.com Wed Jan 8 09:06:47 2003 Received: from pandora.webct.com (pandora.webct.com [209.87.17.8]) by mycroft.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B3EE81959E2 for ; Wed, 8 Jan 2003 09:06:46 -0800 (PST) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.0.6249.0 content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: Maxlength in TO line for approvals Date: Wed, 8 Jan 2003 09:06:46 -0800 Message-ID: <997C41325659AE41B4F3BB62201C111D0EBB04@pandora.webct.com> X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: Maxlength in TO line for approvals Thread-Index: AcK3OFMYkgAIfNspQnahVySv/fq94w== From: "Herding, Rick" To: X-Archive-Number: 200301/47 X-Sequence-Number: 2547 Can somebody tell me how to change the maximum length that can be specified= in the "TO" line of a list owner's message approval. What's happening to me is that when I try to approve a bounced message that= is addressed to numerous recipients, only the first two recipients are cor= rectly placed in the "TO" line. The others get stripped out of the "TO" li= ne and get placed in the first line of the message body. This further disr= upts the bounce approval by completely removing the subject line from the o= riginal email. And, when the bounce does get through to the list, the post= gets listed as having come from OWNER USERS. I'm assuming that increasing the maxlength allowed in the "TO" line for bou= nce approvals will fix this? Thanks in advance, Rick. From majordomo-users-owner@greatcircle.com Wed Jan 8 09:38:19 2003 Received: from pintail.mail.pas.earthlink.net (pintail.mail.pas.earthlink.net [207.217.120.122]) by mycroft.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 375F81959E2 for ; Wed, 8 Jan 2003 09:38:18 -0800 (PST) Received: from h-69-3-72-143.phndaz91.covad.net ([69.3.72.143] helo=Vaio.earthlink.net) by pintail.mail.pas.earthlink.net with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #1) id 18WK9h-0004hj-00; Wed, 08 Jan 2003 09:38:17 -0800 Message-Id: <5.2.0.9.2.20030108103421.00b38a88@pop.youruniverse.com> X-Sender: bobbish@pop.youruniverse.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.0.9 Date: Wed, 08 Jan 2003 10:38:11 -0700 To: "Herding, Rick" From: Bob Bish Subject: Re: Maxlength in TO line for approvals Cc: Majordomo-Users@GreatCircle.COM In-Reply-To: <997C41325659AE41B4F3BB62201C111D0EBB04@pandora.webct.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed X-Archive-Number: 200301/48 X-Sequence-Number: 2548 At 10:06 AM 1/8/2003, Herding, Rick wrote: >Can somebody tell me how to change the maximum length that can be >specified in the "TO" line of a list owner's message approval. > >What's happening to me is that when I try to approve a bounced message >that is addressed to numerous recipients, only the first two recipients >are correctly placed in the "TO" line. The others get stripped out of the >"TO" line and get placed in the first line of the message body. This >further disrupts the bounce approval by completely removing the subject >line from the original email. And, when the bounce does get through to >the list, the post gets listed as having come from OWNER USERS. > >I'm assuming that increasing the maxlength allowed in the "TO" line for >bounce approvals will fix this? It seems to me that if someone sends an e-mail to a several recipients one of which is a mailing list, only the copy to the mailing list would bounce (if the sender is a non-member). The other recipients would receive the e-mail. Therefore, when approving it and sending it on to the list only the list address matters. The other recipient addresses can be deleted. ...Bob From majordomo-users-owner@greatcircle.com Wed Jan 8 10:00:36 2003 Received: from mail2.wfi.com (mail2.360.net [64.114.26.208]) by mycroft.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with SMTP id ED9B11959E2 for ; Wed, 8 Jan 2003 10:00:33 -0800 (PST) Received: from svbcexgr01.wfi.com(172.16.16.68) by mail2.wfi.com via csmap id 30214; Wed, 08 Jan 2003 09:54:32 -0800 (PST) Received: by svbcexgr01.wfi.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id ; Wed, 8 Jan 2003 09:58:00 -0800 Message-ID: <2DB8F063662FD511A0C7006008F6D05B031A76C3@SVBCEXMB01.wfi.com> From: Gary Thandi To: 'durairaj' , majordomo-users@greatcircle.com Subject: Re: Problem: in run the installed majordomo files into another sy Date: Wed, 8 Jan 2003 09:57:58 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----_=_NextPart_001_01C2B73F.7AAFCF00" X-Archive-Number: 200301/49 X-Sequence-Number: 2549 This message is in MIME format. Since your mail reader does not understand this format, some or all of this message may not be legible. ------_=_NextPart_001_01C2B73F.7AAFCF00 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Hi Durai, There isn't anything wrong with your Majordomo installation. The user and group creation is a prerequisite for Majordomo. There isn't anyway to get around having to create these two items. The only suggestion I have is that if you are in the position of setting up many Majordomo systems and want to speed this process up, create a script which among the other configuration prerequisites, creates the user and group IDs as one of the first steps. Gary. -----Original Message----- From: durairaj [mailto:durairaj@visolve.com] Sent: Wednesday, January 08, 2003 2:27 AM To: majordomo-users@greatcircle.com Subject: Problem: in run the installed majordomo files into another system Hello experts, I installed the majordomo-1.94.5 in HP-UX.The User id number : 200 and Group id Number 200. I put all the installed files in another HP-UX System as the same installed format already. Here the problem comes: In the another HP-UX system, there is no user in uid 200 and group id 200. what to do? The Error comes like "Unknown User". After I create the user with 200 and group id 200, the majordomo works fine. Is there any other way for majordomo executables works in another system without doing extra works( like user creation and group creation ). Please help me. Thanks, Durai. durairaj@visolve.com ------_=_NextPart_001_01C2B73F.7AAFCF00 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1"

Hi Durai,

There isn't anything wrong with your Majordomo installation. The user and group creation is a prerequisite for Majordomo. There isn't anyway to get around having to create these two items.

The only suggestion I have is that if you are in the position of setting up many Majordomo systems and want to speed this process up, create a script which among the other configuration prerequisites, creates the user and group IDs as one of the first steps.

Gary.

-----Original Message-----
From: durairaj [mailto:durairaj@visolve.com]
Sent: Wednesday, January 08, 2003 2:27 AM
To: majordomo-users@greatcircle.com
Subject: Problem: in run the installed majordomo files into another system

Hello experts,

I installed the majordomo-1.94.5 in HP-UX.The User id number : 200 and Group id Number 200.
I put all the installed files in another HP-UX System as the same installed format already.

Here the problem comes:

In the another HP-UX system, there is no user in uid 200 and group id 200. what to do? The Error comes like "Unknown User".

After I create the user with 200 and group id 200, the majordomo works fine.

Is there any other way for majordomo executables works in another system without doing extra works( like user creation and group creation ).

Please help me.

Thanks,
Durai.

durairaj@visolve.com

------_=_NextPart_001_01C2B73F.7AAFCF00-- From majordomo-users-owner@greatcircle.com Wed Jan 8 14:24:44 2003 Received: from wrenkasky.com (esson.net [216.102.129.43]) by mycroft.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 426071959E2 for ; Wed, 8 Jan 2003 14:24:43 -0800 (PST) Received: from ekasky.wrenkasky.com (ekasky.priority.usc.edu [128.125.63.168]) by wrenkasky.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id h08MOfpw024895 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NOT) for ; Wed, 8 Jan 2003 14:24:41 -0800 Message-Id: <5.1.1.6.2.20030108142109.00afd548@mail.esson.net> X-Sender: ed@mail.esson.net (Unverified) X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1.1 Date: Wed, 08 Jan 2003 14:24:39 -0800 To: majordomo-users@greatcircle.com From: Ed Kasky Subject: Posting in html In-Reply-To: <2DB8F063662FD511A0C7006008F6D05B031A76C3@SVBCEXMB01.wfi.co m> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed X-Archive-Number: 200301/50 X-Sequence-Number: 2550 Speaking of demime for a list, I suggest we set this one up..... At 09:57 AM Wednesday, 1/8/2003, Gary Thandi wrote -=>

Hi Durai,

There isn't anything wrong with your Majordomo installation. The user and group creation is a prerequisite for Majordomo. There isn't anyway to get around having to create these two items.

; Wed, 8 Jan 2003 15:45:57 -0800 (PST) Received: from KEN (rtec-ubr1-168.rtecexpress.net [209.173.173.168]) by hagus.bright.net (8.12.1/8.12.1) with SMTP id h08NjtaS017461 for ; Wed, 8 Jan 2003 18:45:56 -0500 (EST) From: "Ken Bedell" To: Subject: Unknown mailer error 6 Date: Wed, 8 Jan 2003 18:45:59 -0500 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <20030108231738.C7634195A0C@mycroft.greatcircle.com> X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 X-Archive-Number: 200301/51 X-Sequence-Number: 2551 I am trying to set up majordomo using Redhat 8.0. It seems that sendmail is working since I have several accounts that I can send mail between them. Also my majordomo config-test indicates that I have majordomo set up ok. When I send an email to majordomo@mysite.org I get an error message in the mailbox of majordomo-owner that reads: Illegal command: majordomo Unknown mailer error 6 When I send a message to the test group I get an error message in the mailbox of majordomo-owner that reads: Illegal command: resend Unknown mailer error 6 Both of these email messages are sent by the sendmail error deamon. I have a second and unrelated question. I have looked at the greastcirle.com website that has messages from this user group archived. Is there a way that I can do a search on the archive to see if the Unknown mailer error message was discussed in the past? Ken Bedell From majordomo-users-owner@greatcircle.com Wed Jan 8 19:46:43 2003 Received: from daniel.liston.nu (24-116-58-25.cpe.cableone.net [24.116.58.25]) by mycroft.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6FC4D195A22 for ; Wed, 8 Jan 2003 19:46:40 -0800 (PST) Received: from sonny.org (daniel.liston.nu [192.168.1.65]) by daniel.liston.nu (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id h093kQvg007021; Wed, 8 Jan 2003 21:46:27 -0600 Message-ID: <3E1CF19A.6090203@sonny.org> Date: Wed, 08 Jan 2003 21:50:50 -0600 From: Daniel Liston User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.0; en-US; rv:1.0.2) Gecko/20021120 Netscape/7.01 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: andy@esolution.co.uk Cc: majordomo-users@greatcircle.com Subject: Re: aliasing an AOL address References: <1042043452.3095.20.camel@andy.esolution.office> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Archive-Number: 200301/52 X-Sequence-Number: 2552 This change can not happen without violating certain RFCs, and it may not even be visible in some mail clients. The bottom line is that the message really is from foo@aol.com and that fact should not be changed by forging headers. If you want that user's messages to look like they came from your system, you should create an account on your system for him to use instead of AOL. Dan Liston Andy Richards wrote: > Hi > > Can anyone help me. I have setup majordomo for my client hosting a > specific domain. However they post to a closed list from an aol account. > The message their clients recieve say from: foo@aol.com. Is it possible > to change this to foo@mydomain.com, making this look a little more > professional? > > forgot to say we are using... > > version majordomo-1.94.5 > version Perl v5.6.1 > operating system redhat7.2 > mailer sendmail-8.11.6-3 > > thanks > > andy From majordomo-users-owner@greatcircle.com Wed Jan 8 19:47:54 2003 Received: from daniel.liston.nu (24-116-58-25.cpe.cableone.net [24.116.58.25]) by mycroft.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0F4B319675C for ; Wed, 8 Jan 2003 19:47:53 -0800 (PST) Received: from sonny.org (daniel.liston.nu [192.168.1.65]) by daniel.liston.nu (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id h093lnvg007025; Wed, 8 Jan 2003 21:47:50 -0600 Message-ID: <3E1CF1EE.3070900@sonny.org> Date: Wed, 08 Jan 2003 21:52:14 -0600 From: Daniel Liston User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.0; en-US; rv:1.0.2) Gecko/20021120 Netscape/7.01 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Bob Bish , Majordomo-Users@greatcircle.com Cc: "Herding, Rick" Subject: Re: Maxlength in TO line for approvals References: <5.2.0.9.2.20030108103421.00b38a88@pop.youruniverse.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Archive-Number: 200301/53 X-Sequence-Number: 2553 You are correct Bob. The only address that "officially" bounced was the address of the mailing list. The mailing list address is the only one that should be used when approving the message for the list. Dan Liston Bob Bish wrote: > At 10:06 AM 1/8/2003, Herding, Rick wrote: > >> Can somebody tell me how to change the maximum length that can be >> specified in the "TO" line of a list owner's message approval. >> >> What's happening to me is that when I try to approve a bounced message >> that is addressed to numerous recipients, only the first two >> recipients are correctly placed in the "TO" line. The others get >> stripped out of the "TO" line and get placed in the first line of the >> message body. This further disrupts the bounce approval by completely >> removing the subject line from the original email. And, when the >> bounce does get through to the list, the post gets listed as having >> come from OWNER USERS. >> >> I'm assuming that increasing the maxlength allowed in the "TO" line >> for bounce approvals will fix this? > > > It seems to me that if someone sends an e-mail to a several > recipients one of which is a mailing list, only the copy to the mailing > list would bounce (if the sender is a non-member). The other recipients > would receive the e-mail. Therefore, when approving it and sending it > on to the list only the list address matters. The other recipient > addresses can be deleted. > > ...Bob From majordomo-users-owner@greatcircle.com Wed Jan 8 19:56:54 2003 Received: from daniel.liston.nu (24-116-58-25.cpe.cableone.net [24.116.58.25]) by mycroft.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 333FD196334 for ; Wed, 8 Jan 2003 19:56:52 -0800 (PST) Received: from sonny.org (daniel.liston.nu [192.168.1.65]) by daniel.liston.nu (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id h093umvg007078; Wed, 8 Jan 2003 21:56:49 -0600 Message-ID: <3E1CF409.8010107@sonny.org> Date: Wed, 08 Jan 2003 22:01:13 -0600 From: Daniel Liston User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.0; en-US; rv:1.0.2) Gecko/20021120 Netscape/7.01 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Ken Bedell Cc: majordomo-users@greatcircle.com Subject: Re: Unknown mailer error 6 (and searchable archive) References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Archive-Number: 200301/54 X-Sequence-Number: 2554 RedHat 8.0 uses smrsh (SendMail Restricted SHell) which requires a link to the wrapper executable in the /etc/smrsh directory. ln -s /usr/lib/majordomo/wrapper /etc/smrsh/wrapper The problem is that RedHat 8.0 also installs mailman as a mailing list manager, which also already has a link called "wrapper" in the /etc/smrsh directory. So, before you can do the command above, you need to mv /etc/smrsh/wrapper /etc/smrsh/wrapper.mailman If you do not care about mailman at all, you can just delete it's wrapper link with rm /etc/smrsh/wrapper before using the first command above. Otherwise I would have concerns of your alias(es) for the list being misconfigured. As for searching the archives, there is a searchable archive of this list at http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?l=majordomo-users&r=1&w=2 Dan Liston Ken Bedell wrote: > I am trying to set up majordomo using Redhat 8.0. It seems that sendmail is > working since I have several accounts that I can send mail between them. > Also my majordomo config-test indicates that I have majordomo set up ok. > > When I send an email to majordomo@mysite.org I get an error message in the > mailbox of majordomo-owner that reads: > > Illegal command: majordomo > Unknown mailer error 6 > > When I send a message to the test group I get an error message in the > mailbox of majordomo-owner that reads: > > Illegal command: resend > Unknown mailer error 6 > > Both of these email messages are sent by the sendmail error deamon. > > I have a second and unrelated question. I have looked at the > greastcirle.com website that has messages from this user group archived. Is > there a way that I can do a search on the archive to see if the Unknown > mailer error message was discussed in the past? > > Ken Bedell > From majordomo-users-owner@greatcircle.com Wed Jan 8 20:41:48 2003 Received: from rhombus.bright.net (rhombus.bright.net [209.143.0.75]) by mycroft.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id EEA94195A22 for ; Wed, 8 Jan 2003 20:41:45 -0800 (PST) Received: from KEN (rtec-ubr1-168.rtecexpress.net [209.173.173.168]) by rhombus.bright.net (8.12.1/8.12.1) with SMTP id h094f1KC006179; Wed, 8 Jan 2003 23:41:02 -0500 (EST) From: "Ken Bedell" To: "Daniel Liston" Cc: Subject: Re: Unknown mailer error 6 (and searchable archive) Date: Wed, 8 Jan 2003 23:41:04 -0500 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <3E1CF409.8010107@sonny.org> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 X-Archive-Number: 200301/55 X-Sequence-Number: 2555 Thanks Daniel. Looks like that got my majordomo up and running. I think I'll go to bed now and work on setting up my lists tomorrow afternoon. Thanks again. Ken Bedell -----Original Message----- From: Daniel Liston [mailto:dliston@sonny.org] Sent: Wednesday, January 08, 2003 11:01 PM To: Ken Bedell Cc: majordomo-users@greatcircle.com Subject: Re: Unknown mailer error 6 (and searchable archive) RedHat 8.0 uses smrsh (SendMail Restricted SHell) which requires a link to the wrapper executable in the /etc/smrsh directory. ln -s /usr/lib/majordomo/wrapper /etc/smrsh/wrapper The problem is that RedHat 8.0 also installs mailman as a mailing list manager, which also already has a link called "wrapper" in the /etc/smrsh directory. So, before you can do the command above, you need to mv /etc/smrsh/wrapper /etc/smrsh/wrapper.mailman If you do not care about mailman at all, you can just delete it's wrapper link with rm /etc/smrsh/wrapper before using the first command above. Otherwise I would have concerns of your alias(es) for the list being misconfigured. As for searching the archives, there is a searchable archive of this list at http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?l=majordomo-users&r=1&w=2 Dan Liston Ken Bedell wrote: > I am trying to set up majordomo using Redhat 8.0. It seems that sendmail is > working since I have several accounts that I can send mail between them. > Also my majordomo config-test indicates that I have majordomo set up ok. > > When I send an email to majordomo@mysite.org I get an error message in the > mailbox of majordomo-owner that reads: > > Illegal command: majordomo > Unknown mailer error 6 > > When I send a message to the test group I get an error message in the > mailbox of majordomo-owner that reads: > > Illegal command: resend > Unknown mailer error 6 > > Both of these email messages are sent by the sendmail error deamon. > > I have a second and unrelated question. I have looked at the > greastcirle.com website that has messages from this user group archived. Is > there a way that I can do a search on the archive to see if the Unknown > mailer error message was discussed in the past? > > Ken Bedell > From majordomo-users-owner@greatcircle.com Thu Jan 9 07:57:39 2003 Received: from pandora.webct.com (pandora.webct.com [209.87.17.8]) by mycroft.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 38B3E196635 for ; Thu, 9 Jan 2003 07:34:14 -0800 (PST) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.0.6249.0 content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: Re: Maxlength in TO line for approvals Date: Thu, 9 Jan 2003 07:34:12 -0800 Message-ID: <997C41325659AE41B4F3BB62201C111D0EBB0B@pandora.webct.com> X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: Maxlength in TO line for approvals Thread-Index: AcK3keSNZqNp09IiQmmRZusaP6BbgwAX5osA From: "Herding, Rick" To: "Daniel Liston" , "Bob Bish" , X-Archive-Number: 200301/56 X-Sequence-Number: 2556 Thanks Bob, Dan, Perhaps I should have explained a bit more clearly..... My mailing list is actually the only address I send the approval to (I've made the mistake in past of sending it also to other recipients and have succeeded only in sending them my majordomo password as well). The problem I am having is when I need to replicate the original recipients list for a given bounce I am approving. I use the "send again" feature in Eudora to approve messages. This strips out the original message header. I then add the following to the top of the message to reproduce the recipient list, sender, and subject line of the message that bounced: approved: TO: FROM: SUBJECT: CC: The problem I am having is that when there are more than 2 or 3 original recipients to be listed in the TO: line, the recipient list line gets truncated and the remaining text from that line gets tossed into the body of the message. And, since everthing after and below the truncation on the TO: line gets dumped into the body of the message, the resulting post on the list does not contain anything on the FROM: line (other than Owner Users), and does not contain a subject or a CC line (all this shows up in the body of the message though. So, my thinking is that increasing the maximum allowed length of the TO: line in the approval should solve the problem. Does this make sense? Thanx, Rick. -----Original Message----- From: Daniel Liston [mailto:dliston@sonny.org] Sent: January 8, 2003 7:52 PM To: Bob Bish; Majordomo-Users@greatcircle.com Cc: Herding, Rick Subject: Re: Maxlength in TO line for approvals You are correct Bob. The only address that "officially" bounced was the address of the mailing list. The mailing list address is the only one that should be used when approving the message for the list. Dan Liston Bob Bish wrote: > At 10:06 AM 1/8/2003, Herding, Rick wrote: >=20 >> Can somebody tell me how to change the maximum length that can be=20 >> specified in the "TO" line of a list owner's message approval. >> >> What's happening to me is that when I try to approve a bounced message=20 >> that is addressed to numerous recipients, only the first two=20 >> recipients are correctly placed in the "TO" line. The others get=20 >> stripped out of the "TO" line and get placed in the first line of the >> message body. This further disrupts the bounce approval by completely=20 >> removing the subject line from the original email. And, when the=20 >> bounce does get through to the list, the post gets listed as having=20 >> come from OWNER USERS. >> >> I'm assuming that increasing the maxlength allowed in the "TO" line=20 >> for bounce approvals will fix this? >=20 >=20 > It seems to me that if someone sends an e-mail to a several=20 > recipients one of which is a mailing list, only the copy to the mailing=20 > list would bounce (if the sender is a non-member). The other recipients=20 > would receive the e-mail. Therefore, when approving it and sending it > on to the list only the list address matters. The other recipient=20 > addresses can be deleted. >=20 > ...Bob From majordomo-users-owner@greatcircle.com Thu Jan 9 09:09:05 2003 Received: from nwkea-mail-2.sun.com (nwkea-mail-2.sun.com [192.18.42.14]) by mycroft.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B7CB71959EA for ; Thu, 9 Jan 2003 09:09:00 -0800 (PST) Received: from engmail2sun.Eng.Sun.COM ([129.144.134.19]) by nwkea-mail-2.sun.com (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA23708; Thu, 9 Jan 2003 09:08:59 -0800 (PST) Received: from phys-ha5mpk-2 (mailsrv@phys-ha5mpk-2.Eng.Sun.COM [129.146.19.84]) by engmail2sun.Eng.Sun.COM (8.12.2+Sun/8.12.2/ENSMAIL,v2.2) with ESMTP id h09H8xuk015124; Thu, 9 Jan 2003 09:08:59 -0800 (PST) Received: from ha5mpk-mail1.Eng.Sun.COM (esun1as-be21-ge0.Central.Sun.COM [129.147.60.148]) by ha5mpk-mail1.eng.sun.com (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.03 (built Oct 1 2002)) with ESMTP id <0H8G00KAFIAIOW@ha5mpk-mail1.eng.sun.com>; Thu, 09 Jan 2003 09:08:55 -0800 (PST) Date: Thu, 09 Jan 2003 09:03:11 -0800 From: Mike.Oliver@Sun.COM Subject: Re: Maxlength in TO line for approvals To: "Herding, Rick" , Majordomo-Users@greatcircle.com Reply-To: Mike.Oliver@Sun.COM Message-id: <0H8G00KASIANOW@ha5mpk-mail1.eng.sun.com> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Sun NetMail 2.3 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-Archive-Number: 200301/57 X-Sequence-Number: 2557 "Herding, Rick" wrote: >approved: >TO: >FROM: >SUBJECT: >CC: > >The problem I am having is that when there are more than 2 or 3 original >recipients to be listed in the TO: line, the recipient list line gets >truncated and the remaining text from that line gets tossed into the >body of the message. And, since everthing after and below the >truncation on the TO: line gets dumped into the body of the message, the >resulting post on the list does not contain anything on the FROM: line >(other than Owner Users), and does not contain a subject or a CC line >(all this shows up in the body of the message though. That sounds as though something, probably your mail client, is wrapping the TO: line because it sees it as just another too-long line of text. Try either turning off automatic line wrapping in your client or keep the TO: line below the line-length limit by wrapping it manually -- and if you do the latter, remember that a continuation of a mail header line must start with whitespace to prevent it from being misinterpreted as a new header. It'd look like: approved: TO: , , , FROM: SUBJECT: CC: If the CC: line is long then do the same thing there. Mike. -- mike.oliver@sun.com From majordomo-users-owner@greatcircle.com Thu Jan 9 09:19:19 2003 Received: from xrx-inc.com (mail.xrx-inc.com [12.13.116.226]) by mycroft.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6527F1959EA for ; Thu, 9 Jan 2003 09:19:08 -0800 (PST) Received: from xrx-inc.com (localhost.xrx-inc.com [127.0.0.1]) by xrx-inc.com (8.12.6/8.12.6) with ESMTP id h09HMFxj041292 for ; Thu, 9 Jan 2003 11:22:16 -0600 (CST) Received: (from root@localhost) by xrx-inc.com (8.12.6/8.12.6/Submit) id h09HMFU6041291 for Majordomo-Users@greatcircle.com; Thu, 9 Jan 2003 11:22:15 -0600 (CST) Date: Thu, 9 Jan 2003 11:22:15 -0600 (CST) From: "Dr. Tim" Message-Id: <200301091722.h09HMFU6041291@xrx-inc.com> To: Majordomo-Users@greatcircle.com Subject: a seriously reformatted digest X-Archive-Number: 200301/58 X-Sequence-Number: 2558 Majordomo 1.94.5, Freebsd 4.2 (me thinks) sendmail 8.12 I have succuessfully updated our digest program so that that have the from line appears after the subject. example: Beige Garders ............"BillyBod" that;s a patch for 1.94.4 that worked for me. Next: I coded digest so that it now numbers each of the messages in the subject_authors list and in the digest itself. example: (1)Beige Garders .........."BillyBod" _____________________________________ (1) Date: ... I am now working on creating *GASP* an html version. I have successfully convert the entire Digest process to create a linked digest in html BUT when it mails out to pc's, at least, In my mail client (outlook) it shows me my html coding. So I suspect I need to add a header to my mail that sas it is html. This header is Context-Type NO? So My questions are: 1) I should be able to add the appropriate header to digest so that when it goes out all people have the appropriate header so they can read it like html in their aol/microosoft mail clients. One should be able to use formail -A etc.. but where does it go? in out-going-list alias? 2.) BECAUSSE addresses look like this: :"Billybob" the < > interfer with my html formatting and right now I am losing the address because html viewers think it is some sorth of tag. I need to EITHER call sed from digest *not a clue!* and after coding all this I suspect it has the greatest possiblity of failure replacing all those < with @lt or make sendmail or majordomo format my from line to something else. anyone know how? Thanks tim From majordomo-users-owner@greatcircle.com Thu Jan 9 09:34:38 2003 Received: from pandora.webct.com (pandora.webct.com [209.87.17.8]) by mycroft.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B4C72195A4B for ; Thu, 9 Jan 2003 09:34:36 -0800 (PST) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.0.6249.0 content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: Re: Maxlength in TO line for approvals Date: Thu, 9 Jan 2003 09:34:35 -0800 Message-ID: <997C41325659AE41B4F3BB62201C111D1CE029@pandora.webct.com> X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: Maxlength in TO line for approvals Thread-Index: AcK4Ac27IuIPXnvuQXuDwkEl2/yJ9QAA4FIw From: "Herding, Rick" To: , X-Archive-Number: 200301/59 X-Sequence-Number: 2559 Thanks Mike. Turning off word wrap solved the problem. Rick. -----Original Message----- From: Mike.Oliver@Sun.COM [mailto:Mike.Oliver@Sun.COM] Sent: January 9, 2003 9:03 AM To: Herding, Rick; Majordomo-Users@greatcircle.com Subject: Re: Maxlength in TO line for approvals "Herding, Rick" wrote: >approved: >TO: >FROM: >SUBJECT: >CC: > >The problem I am having is that when there are more than 2 or 3 original >recipients to be listed in the TO: line, the recipient list line gets >truncated and the remaining text from that line gets tossed into the >body of the message. And, since everthing after and below the >truncation on the TO: line gets dumped into the body of the message, the >resulting post on the list does not contain anything on the FROM: line >(other than Owner Users), and does not contain a subject or a CC line >(all this shows up in the body of the message though. That sounds as though something, probably your mail client, is wrapping the TO: line because it sees it as just another too-long line of text. Try either turning off automatic line wrapping in your client or keep the TO: line below the line-length limit by wrapping it manually -- and if you do the latter, remember that a continuation of a mail header line must start with whitespace to prevent it from being misinterpreted as a new header. It'd look like: approved: TO: , , , FROM: SUBJECT: CC: If the CC: line is long then do the same thing there. Mike. --=20 mike.oliver@sun.com From majordomo-users-owner@greatcircle.com Thu Jan 9 17:23:53 2003 Received: from 44615166.theo-phys.uni-essen.de (44615166.Theo-Phys.Uni-Essen.DE [132.252.73.246]) by mycroft.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 49A781959E9 for ; Thu, 9 Jan 2003 17:23:51 -0800 (PST) Received: (from anja@localhost) by 44615166.theo-phys.uni-essen.de (8.11.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) id h0A1KrQ26616 for majordomo-users@greatcircle.com; Fri, 10 Jan 2003 02:20:53 +0100 Date: Fri, 10 Jan 2003 02:20:53 +0100 From: Anja Gerwinski To: majordomo-users@greatcircle.com Subject: How to get more specific error messages? Message-ID: <20030110022053.B26561@44615166.theo-phys.uni-essen.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="M9NhX3UHpAaciwkO" Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.22.1i X-Archive-Number: 200301/60 X-Sequence-Number: 2560 --M9NhX3UHpAaciwkO Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Hello, is there a way to get more specific error messages from Majordomo 2? All I get is the following (see attached mail): : majordomo@elug.de: : generated |/usr/local/majordomo/bin/mj_email -m -d elug.de: : Child process of address_pipe transport returned 255 (could mean : shell command ended by signal 127 (Unknown signal 127)) from : command: : /usr/local/majordomo/bin/mj_email This is the outcome of an attempt to accept a message (the message has been forwarded to the moderator because it is a duplicate). I tried to re-configure the list's access rules yesterday, but I already I changed back everything I did. Apparently, the changes were not revoked completely, but I have no idea left what it could be. The two lists at the domain elug.de share the problem. Apart from names, the _config file of each of them is the same as that of another list at another domain where there is no such problem. Is there any way to run the failed command by hand and get a more specific error message? I tried "cat tmp.mail | /usr/local/majordomo/bin/mj_email -m -d elug.de" with tmp.mail being just the same mail exim quotes in the error message (with a valid token). This does not work, but for a different reason: Majordomo cannot detect a $user and exits. I would be very glad if you could give me a hint. I spent the whole evening debugging this, and I have no idea where to search further. A hint to the relevant part in the documentation would help, too, since I did not find anything about this kind of problem so far. Thanks in advance, Anja --M9NhX3UHpAaciwkO Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="error.mail" From anja@elug.de Fri Jan 10 01:54:32 2003 Return-Path: Received: from adele.gerwinski.de (adele.gerwinski.de [217.69.76.193]) by 44615166.theo-phys.uni-essen.de (8.11.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h0A0sVh26505 for ; Fri, 10 Jan 2003 01:54:31 +0100 Received: from localhost ([::ffff:127.0.0.1] helo=elug.de) by adele.gerwinski.de with smtp (Exim 3.12 #1 (Debian)) id 18WnUf-0006Iw-00 for ; Fri, 10 Jan 2003 01:57:53 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: MIME-tools 5.411 (Entity 5.404) Subject: Bounce detected (list GLOBAL) from majordomo@elug.de To: majordomo-owner@elug.de From: majordomo-owner@elug.de Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="----------=_1042160273-24236-0" Message-Id: Date: Fri, 10 Jan 2003 01:57:53 +0100 Status: RO Content-Length: 2357 Lines: 66 This is a multi-part message in MIME format... ------------=_1042160273-24236-0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: binary Detected a bounce of message #unknown, list GLOBAL. (bounce type Exim) User: majordomo@elug.de Status: failure Diagnostic: generated |/usr/local/majordomo/bin/mj_email -m -d elug.de: Child process of address_pipe transport returned 255 (could mean shell command ended by signal 127 (Unknown signal 127)) from command: /usr/local/majordomo/bin/mj_email The bounce message is attached below. ------------=_1042160273-24236-0 Content-Type: message/rfc822 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: binary Content-Description: Original message Received: from mail by adele.gerwinski.de with local (Exim 3.12 #1 (Debian)) id 18WnUe-0006Ir-00 for ; Fri, 10 Jan 2003 01:57:52 +0100 X-Failed-Recipients: majordomo@elug.de From: Mail Delivery System To: majordomo-owner@elug.de Subject: Mail delivery failed: returning message to sender Message-Id: Date: Fri, 10 Jan 2003 01:57:52 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 This message was created automatically by mail delivery software. A message that you sent could not be delivered to one or more of its recipients. The following address(es) failed: majordomo@elug.de: generated |/usr/local/majordomo/bin/mj_email -m -d elug.de: Child process of address_pipe transport returned 255 (could mean shell command ended by signal 127 (Unknown signal 127)) from command: /usr/local/majordomo/bin/mj_email ------ This is a copy of the message, including all the headers. ------ Return-path: Received: from localhost ([::ffff:127.0.0.1] helo=elug.de) by adele.gerwinski.de with smtp (Exim 3.12 #1 (Debian)) id 18WnUc-0006Ik-00 for ; Fri, 10 Jan 2003 01:57:50 +0100 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: binary MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: MIME-tools 5.411 (Entity 5.404) Subject: Forwarded approval from majordomo@elug.de From: majordomo@elug.de Reply-To: majordomo@elug.de Message-Id: Date: Fri, 10 Jan 2003 01:57:50 +0100 accept 6BBE-ADEC-BD0F ------------=_1042160273-24236-0-- --M9NhX3UHpAaciwkO-- From majordomo-users-owner@greatcircle.com Thu Jan 9 22:46:17 2003 Received: from accell.ram.net.au (accell.ram.net.au [203.17.8.11]) by mycroft.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 194C8195ACB for ; Thu, 9 Jan 2003 22:46:15 -0800 (PST) Received: from felix (trog [203.17.8.8]) by accell.ram.net.au (8.10.2/8.10.2) with ESMTP id h0A6kE626476 for ; Fri, 10 Jan 2003 17:46:14 +1100 From: "Felix Chan" To: Subject: how to set up a list? Date: Fri, 10 Jan 2003 17:53:32 +1100 Message-ID: <000601c2b874$fd74e9d0$1201a8c0@felix> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.2627 Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6700 X-Archive-Number: 200301/61 X-Sequence-Number: 2561 Hi there, I have installed majordomo 1.94.5 in a Linux machine The installation seems OK and I got no errors when I tested with ./wrapper config-test However when I try to send to my testlist I got a mail from Mailer-Daemon with the following error Can anyone tell me what did I do wrong?? ----- The following addresses had permanent fatal errors ----- "|/opt/majordomo/majordomo-1.94.5/wrapper resend -l testlist testlist-list" (reason: service unavailable) (expanded from: ) ----- Transcript of session follows ----- Message delivered to mailing list smrsh: wrapper not available for sendmail programs 554 5.0.0 Service unavailable cheers, Felix --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.435 / Virus Database: 244 - Release Date: 12/30/2002 From majordomo-users-owner@greatcircle.com Fri Jan 10 07:45:18 2003 Received: from pandora.webct.com (pandora.webct.com [209.87.17.8]) by mycroft.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 38E191959FE for ; Fri, 10 Jan 2003 07:45:17 -0800 (PST) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.0.6249.0 content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: Strange returned mail Date: Fri, 10 Jan 2003 07:45:16 -0800 Message-ID: <997C41325659AE41B4F3BB62201C111D0EBB0F@pandora.webct.com> X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: Strange returned mail Thread-Index: AcK4v0Vw5D3kB1LJRlSyyhmnqVjYpw== From: "Herding, Rick" To: X-Archive-Number: 200301/62 X-Sequence-Number: 2562 I have recently gotten about a dozen of the following returned mail notific= ations that I can't figure out. The email address in question is not subsc= ribed to any of the lists I administrate, and I have not tried to send anyt= hing to this address either. Does anyone have any thoughts as to what migh= t be generating these returned mail messages? The message returned to me i= s: Your message did not reach some or all of the intended recipients. Subject: Majordomo results: Ou va l'=E9ducation ?!? Sent: 10/01/2003 6:45 AM The following recipient(s) could not be reached: on 10/01/2003 6:46 AM The e-mail account does not exist at the organization this mess= age was sent to. Check the e-mail address, or contact the recipient direct= ly to find out the correct address. < mojo.webct.com #5.1.1 SMTP; 550 : User unknown> From majordomo-users-owner@greatcircle.com Fri Jan 10 09:38:49 2003 Received: from wrenkasky.com (esson.net [216.102.129.43]) by mycroft.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6ED341959D9 for ; Fri, 10 Jan 2003 09:38:48 -0800 (PST) Received: from ekasky.wrenkasky.com (ekasky.priority.usc.edu [128.125.63.168]) by wrenkasky.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id h0AHckpw017192 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NOT); Fri, 10 Jan 2003 09:38:47 -0800 Message-Id: <5.1.1.6.2.20030110093811.00a9b4c8@mail.esson.net> X-Sender: ed@mail.esson.net (Unverified) X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1.1 Date: Fri, 10 Jan 2003 09:38:46 -0800 To: "Felix Chan" , From: Ed Kasky Subject: Re: how to set up a list? In-Reply-To: <000601c2b874$fd74e9d0$1201a8c0@felix> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed X-Archive-Number: 200301/63 X-Sequence-Number: 2563 Did you create a symbolic link to the wrapper???? From the FAQ: 2.11 - I get "sh: wrapper not available for sendmail programs" You're on a system which uses smrsh. (sendmail restricted shell). You have to configure smrsh to allow it to execute the wrapper. Normally this is done by creating a symlink in /var/adm/sm.bin (in some it's /etc/smrsh) to Majordomo's wrapper program. At 05:53 PM Friday, 1/10/2003, Felix Chan wrote -=> > ----- Transcript of session follows ----- >Message delivered to mailing list >smrsh: wrapper not available for sendmail programs >554 5.0.0 Service unavailable Ed Kasky Los Angeles, CA . . . . . . . . Where there's a will, I want to be in it. From majordomo-users-owner@greatcircle.com Fri Jan 10 13:11:24 2003 Received: from daniel.liston.nu (24-116-58-25.cpe.cableone.net [24.116.58.25]) by mycroft.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5D7B5195F0E for ; Fri, 10 Jan 2003 13:10:44 -0800 (PST) Received: from sonny.org (24-116-253-17.cpe.cableone.net [24.116.253.17]) by daniel.liston.nu (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id h0ALAgvg031812; Fri, 10 Jan 2003 15:10:43 -0600 Message-ID: <3E1F36E1.1040907@sonny.org> Date: Fri, 10 Jan 2003 15:10:57 -0600 From: Daniel Liston User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.0.2) Gecko/20021120 Netscape/7.01 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "Herding, Rick" Cc: majordomo-users@greatcircle.com Subject: Re: Strange returned mail References: <997C41325659AE41B4F3BB62201C111D0EBB0F@pandora.webct.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Archive-Number: 200301/64 X-Sequence-Number: 2564 Is it possible, that a spammer found/used your list-owner address as the return address on their spam, even though the message never originated or travelled through your domain? What about the majordomo address? Dan Liston Herding, Rick wrote: > I have recently gotten about a dozen of the following returned mail notifications that I can't figure out. The email address in question is not subscribed to any of the lists I administrate, and I have not tried to send anything to this address either. Does anyone have any thoughts as to what might be generating these returned mail messages? The message returned to me is: > > > > Your message did not reach some or all of the intended recipients. > > Subject: Majordomo results: Ou va l'�ducation ?!? > Sent: 10/01/2003 6:45 AM > > The following recipient(s) could not be reached: > > on 10/01/2003 6:46 AM > The e-mail account does not exist at the organization this message was sent to. Check the e-mail address, or contact the recipient directly to find out the correct address. > < mojo.webct.com #5.1.1 SMTP; 550 : User unknown> From majordomo-users-owner@greatcircle.com Sat Jan 11 21:48:26 2003 Received: from penguin.postmodern.com (server.postmodern.com [216.240.39.3]) by mycroft.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 189A4196254 for ; Sat, 11 Jan 2003 21:48:25 -0800 (PST) Received: from xrx-inc.com (mail.xrx-inc.com [12.13.116.226]) by penguin.postmodern.com (8.12.5/mcb-20021115-1) with ESMTP id h0BNFSv2023023 for ; Sat, 11 Jan 2003 15:15:28 -0800 Received: from xrx-inc.com (localhost.xrx-inc.com [127.0.0.1]) by xrx-inc.com (8.12.6/8.12.6) with ESMTP id h0BNExxj080603 for ; Sat, 11 Jan 2003 17:14:59 -0600 (CST) Received: (from timothy@localhost) by xrx-inc.com (8.12.6/8.12.6/Submit) id h0BNEiSn080586 for majordomo-users@greatcircle.com; Sat, 11 Jan 2003 17:14:44 -0600 (CST) Date: Sat, 11 Jan 2003 17:14:44 -0600 (CST) From: "Dr. Tim" Message-Id: <200301112314.h0BNEiSn080586@xrx-inc.com> To: majordomo-users@greatcircle.com Subject: Protecting aliases outgoing. X-Archive-Number: 200301/65 X-Sequence-Number: 2565 We just got hit by virus that was mailing to our list-outgoing@our.domain.address the list is moderated but the message went out to all people on the list without approval. How do I protect the aliases? sendmail 8.12.6 majordomo 1.94.5 Thanks Tim From majordomo-users-owner@greatcircle.com Sat Jan 11 21:53:24 2003 Received: from penguin.postmodern.com (server.postmodern.com [216.240.39.3]) by mycroft.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 82B62196566 for ; Sat, 11 Jan 2003 21:53:23 -0800 (PST) Received: from hawk.mail.pas.earthlink.net (hawk.mail.pas.earthlink.net [207.217.120.22]) by penguin.postmodern.com (8.12.5/mcb-20021115-1) with ESMTP id h0BIeFv2021178 for ; Sat, 11 Jan 2003 10:40:15 -0800 Received: from user-vcaum8g.dsl.mindspring.com ([216.175.89.16] helo=queernet.org) by hawk.mail.pas.earthlink.net with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #1) id 18XQWH-0006rg-00; Sat, 11 Jan 2003 10:38:09 -0800 Message-ID: <3E2064AD.1090601@queernet.org> Date: Sat, 11 Jan 2003 10:38:37 -0800 From: "Roger B.A. Klorese" User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.3a) Gecko/20021212 X-Accept-Language: en, en-us, fr-be, fr-ca, fr-fr, MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Ed Kasky Cc: majordomo-users@greatcircle.com Subject: Re: Posting in html References: <5.1.1.6.2.20030108142109.00afd548@mail.esson.net> In-Reply-To: <5.1.1.6.2.20030108142109.00afd548@mail.esson.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Archive-Number: 200301/66 X-Sequence-Number: 2566 Ed Kasky wrote: > Speaking of demime for a list, I suggest we set this one up..... Since Greatcircle is using Majordomo 2, not majordomo, they don't need demime for this -- you can do it right in the configuration. From majordomo-users-owner@greatcircle.com Sat Jan 11 22:01:51 2003 Received: from xrx-inc.com (mail.xrx-inc.com [12.13.116.226]) by mycroft.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9EDA4196315 for ; Sat, 11 Jan 2003 22:01:48 -0800 (PST) Received: from xrx-inc.com (localhost.xrx-inc.com [127.0.0.1]) by xrx-inc.com (8.12.6/8.12.6) with ESMTP id h0C64g6t009770 for ; Sun, 12 Jan 2003 00:04:42 -0600 (CST) Received: (from root@localhost) by xrx-inc.com (8.12.6/8.12.6/Submit) id h0C64fvH009769 for majordomo-users@greatcircle.com; Sun, 12 Jan 2003 00:04:41 -0600 (CST) Date: Sun, 12 Jan 2003 00:04:41 -0600 (CST) From: "Dr. Tim" Message-Id: <200301120604.h0C64fvH009769@xrx-inc.com> To: majordomo-users@greatcircle.com Subject: Re: Protecting Aliases X-Archive-Number: 200301/67 X-Sequence-Number: 2567 I have just finished doing the following for the aliases: a.) renamesd all the outgoings to randonm values b.) used resned @directives c.) set VRFY and EXPN to off in sendmail d.)_ resend to multiple recipients with outgoing the first so it is hidden, the esrest are div.n///dev/.null anny mnore ideas? other than geting a backspace key that owrks on my terminal? Tijm From majordomo-users-owner@greatcircle.com Sun Jan 12 00:51:53 2003 Received: from daniel.liston.nu (24-116-58-25.cpe.cableone.net [24.116.58.25]) by mycroft.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 588E9195ADB for ; Sun, 12 Jan 2003 00:51:49 -0800 (PST) Received: from sonny.org (24-116-253-17.cpe.cableone.net [24.116.253.17]) by daniel.liston.nu (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id h0C8plvg008667; Sun, 12 Jan 2003 02:51:48 -0600 Message-ID: <3E212CA5.50709@sonny.org> Date: Sun, 12 Jan 2003 02:51:49 -0600 From: Daniel Liston User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.0.2) Gecko/20021120 Netscape/7.01 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "Dr. Tim" Cc: majordomo-users@greatcircle.com Subject: Re: Protecting Aliases References: <200301120604.h0C64fvH009769@xrx-inc.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Archive-Number: 200301/68 X-Sequence-Number: 2568 If you are using sendmail, you might still want to add your random values to the /etc/mail/virtusertable. This will prevent anyone outside localhost from sending to them. listname-randomvalue@some.domain error:nouser User unknown Note, there is at least one character in the white space above. Dan Liston Dr. Tim wrote: > I have just finished doing the following for the aliases: > a.) renamesd all the outgoings to randonm values > b.) used resned @directives > c.) set VRFY and EXPN to off in sendmail > d.)_ resend to multiple recipients with outgoing the first > so it is hidden, the esrest are div.n///dev/.null > > anny mnore ideas? > > other than geting a backspace key that owrks on my terminal? > Tijm From majordomo-users-owner@greatcircle.com Sun Jan 12 10:49:01 2003 Received: from trip.mrball.net (66-214-180-43.la-cbi.charterpipeline.net [66.214.180.43]) by mycroft.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 98A1B195A2F for ; Sun, 12 Jan 2003 10:48:59 -0800 (PST) Received: by trip.mrball.net (Postfix, from userid 501) id 439CA2C066; Sun, 12 Jan 2003 13:48:59 -0500 (EST) Date: Sun, 12 Jan 2003 10:48:59 -0800 From: Todd Lyons To: majordomo-users@greatcircle.com Subject: Majordomo documentation Message-ID: <20030112184859.GC24302@mrball.net> Mail-Followup-To: majordomo-users@greatcircle.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; x-action=pgp-signed Content-Disposition: inline Organization: Progressive Linux Consultants X-mailer-flag: Outlook? Viral infections & bugs non-stop! Use another mailer if you value your data. User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.3i X-Archive-Number: 200301/69 X-Sequence-Number: 2569 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Whoever is maintaining MJ is now years behind on maintaining the documentation. Why not just fork it, add the patches that people always seem to want, and update the documentation? The official position _CANNOT_ be to use MJ2 because the website still proclaims it as alpha. Blue skies... Todd - -- Most traditional Pee-Cee user groups, I've noticed, function mainly as commiseration societies for people who've bought lousy hardware, are struggling and wasting time trying to deal with it, and want to exchange coping-strategy tips with others in the same boat. -- Rick Moen Linux kernel 2.4.19-16mdk 2 users, load average: 0.03, 0.10, 0.14 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.7 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE+IbibIBT1264ScBURAloaAKCQOP9+g5Pd4Rfdc22peyJKe5FUugCgvCCh ss3NZICPxmDHcO81Hua2u+g= =naPl -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From majordomo-users-owner@greatcircle.com Mon Jan 13 10:52:07 2003 Received: from patiencehosting.net (unknown [216.65.63.39]) by mycroft.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7FB97195B22 for ; Mon, 13 Jan 2003 10:52:06 -0800 (PST) Received: from tora (adsl-64-171-184-216.dsl.snfc21.pacbell.net [64.171.184.216]) by patiencehosting.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 04A6732F65 for ; Mon, 13 Jan 2003 10:45:55 -0800 (PST) From: "p dont think" To: Subject: Re: Protecting Aliases Date: Mon, 13 Jan 2003 10:50:46 -0800 Message-ID: <004801c2bb34$c46f09a0$6400a8c0@tora> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.3416 In-Reply-To: <3E212CA5.50709@sonny.org> Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 X-Archive-Number: 200301/70 X-Sequence-Number: 2570 Has anyone out there found a solution for this for Postfix? > -----Original Message----- > From: majordomo-users-owner@greatcircle.com > [mailto:majordomo-users-owner@greatcircle.com] On Behalf Of Daniel Liston > Sent: Sunday, January 12, 2003 12:52 AM > To: Dr. Tim > Cc: majordomo-users@greatcircle.com > Subject: Re: Protecting Aliases >=20 > If you are using sendmail, you might still want to add your > random values to the /etc/mail/virtusertable. This will > prevent anyone outside localhost from sending to them. >=20 > listname-randomvalue@some.domain error:nouser User unknown >=20 > Note, there is at least one character in the white space > above. >=20 > Dan Liston >=20 > Dr. Tim wrote: > > I have just finished doing the following for the aliases: > > a.) renamesd all the outgoings to randonm values > > b.) used resned @directives > > c.) set VRFY and EXPN to off in sendmail > > d.)_ resend to multiple recipients with outgoing the first > > so it is hidden, the es=08rest are div.n=08=08///dev/.null > > > > anny mnore ideas? > > > > other than geting a backspace key that owrks on my terminal? > > Tijm From majordomo-users-owner@greatcircle.com Tue Jan 14 03:01:58 2003 Received: from mail.rz.uni-ulm.de (gemini.rz.uni-ulm.de [134.60.246.16]) by mycroft.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7808819639B for ; Tue, 14 Jan 2003 03:01:56 -0800 (PST) Received: from medizin.uni-ulm.de (sip.medizin.uni-ulm.de [134.60.9.100]) by mail.rz.uni-ulm.de (8.12.6/8.12.6) with SMTP id h0EB1smE013354 for ; Tue, 14 Jan 2003 12:01:54 +0100 (MET) Received: from 134.60.9.100 (SquirrelMail authenticated user heim) by wm.medizin.uni-ulm.de with HTTP; Tue, 14 Jan 2003 12:01:48 +0100 (MET) Message-ID: <51383.134.60.9.100.1042542108.squirrel@wm.medizin.uni-ulm.de> Date: Tue, 14 Jan 2003 12:01:48 +0100 (MET) Subject: Moderated Lists/Attachements From: "Heim, Stefan" To: X-Priority: 3 Importance: Normal Reply-To: heim@sip.medizin.uni-ulm.de X-Mailer: SquirrelMail (version 1.2.8) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Archive-Number: 200301/71 X-Sequence-Number: 2571 Hello, If we do send Mail with Attachements to a moderated list, the Mail Client of the moderator do not detect the Attachement. If the same list is not moderated the Attachement is correctly treated. Thanks! From majordomo-users-owner@greatcircle.com Wed Jan 15 17:10:23 2003 Received: from owbn.org (24-116-189-179.cpe.cableone.net [24.116.189.179]) by mycroft.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id CC8A4195FC8 for ; Wed, 15 Jan 2003 17:10:20 -0800 (PST) Received: from owbn.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by owbn.org (8.12.7/8.12.7) with SMTP id h0G0wc5D004370 for ; Wed, 15 Jan 2003 18:58:38 -0600 Received: from 63.97.120.178 (SquirrelMail authenticated user ross_anderson) by mail.owbn.org with HTTP; Wed, 15 Jan 2003 18:58:38 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <3008.63.97.120.178.1042678718.squirrel@mail.owbn.org> Date: Wed, 15 Jan 2003 18:58:38 -0600 (CST) Subject: Sendmail 8.12.x breaks majordomo, urgent help needed From: "Ross Anderson" To: X-Priority: 3 Importance: Normal X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Reply-To: ross_anderson@owbn.org X-Mailer: SquirrelMail (version 1.2.7) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Score: 2.1 (**) MISSING_MIMEOLE,MISSING_OUTLOOK_NAME,SPAM_PHRASE_01_02 X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.28 (www . roaringpenguin . com / mimedefang) X-Archive-Number: 200301/72 X-Sequence-Number: 2572 As with all great upgrades of sendmail We've broken our majordomo list server. It's a very busy server so if I can get any help ASAP I'll appreciate it. I'm including many pieces of info here. The majordomo test script doesn't complain about anything. We've changed parms, uid, and gid that I've gotten lost. I'm sure there are obvious errors so please point them all out. Throw out what you spot. Thanks all in advance. *Error Log** an 15 18:38:37 owbn sendmail[3845]: h0G0cb5D003845: from=, size=598, class=0, nrcpts=1, msgid=<3004.63.97.120.178.1042677517.squirrel@mail.owbn.org>, proto=SMTP, daemon=MTA, relay=localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1] Jan 15 18:38:38 owbn mimedefang.pl[988]: MDLOG,h0G0cb5D003845,spam,2.4,127.0.0.1,,,eatse Jan 15 18:38:38 owbn sendmail[3845]: h0G0cb5D003845: Milter add: header: X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.28 (www . roaringpenguin . com / mimedefang) Jan 15 18:38:38 owbn sendmail[3848]: h0G0cb5D003845: h0G0cc5D003848: clone: owner=shawn@owbn.org Jan 15 18:38:38 owbn imapd[3844]: Logout user=ross_anderson host=localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1] Jan 15 18:38:38 owbn imapd[3850]: imap service init from 127.0.0.1 Jan 15 18:38:38 owbn imapd[3850]: Login user=ross_anderson host=localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1] Jan 15 18:38:38 owbn sendmail[3851]: NOQUEUE: SYSERR(majordomo): can not write to queue directory /var/spool/clientmqueue/ (RunAsGid=0, required=2): Permission denied Jan 15 18:38:38 owbn sendmail[3851]: dangerous permissions=40775 on queue directory /var/spool/clientmqueue/ Jan 15 18:38:38 owbn sendmail[3848]: h0G0cc5D003848: to="|wrapper resend -l test test-list", ctladdr= (47/0), delay=00:00:01, xdelay=00:00:00, mailer=prog, pri=30944, dsn=2.0.0, stat=Sent Jan 15 18:38:38 owbn imapd[3850]: Logout user=ross_anderson host=localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1] ****Relivant PASSWD file**** root:x:0:0:root:/root:/bin/bash bin:x:1:1:bin:/bin: daemon:x:2:2:daemon:/sbin: mailnull:x:47:47::/var/spool/mqueue:/dev/null smmsp:x:26:26::/home/smmsp:/bin/sh mail:x:8:12:mail:/var/spool/mail: named:x:25:25:Named:/var/named:/bin/false majordomo:x:250:2:majordomo:/usr/local/majordomo:/bin/bash ***GROUP root:x:0:root bin:x:1:root,bin,daemon daemon:x:2:root,bin,daemon,majordomo smmsp:x:26: mailnull:x:47: defang:x:506: *** Makefile #$Modified: Tue Jan 18 14:58:24 2000 by cwilson $ # # $Source: /sources/cvsrepos/majordomo/Makefile,v $ # $Revision: 1.64 $ # $Date: 2000/01/18 14:01:17 $ # $Header: /sources/cvsrepos/majordomo/Makefile,v 1.64 2000/01/18 14:01:17 cwilson Exp $ # # This is the Makefile for Majordomo. # #------------- Configure these items ----------------# # # Put the location of your Perl binary here: PERL = /usr/local/bin/perl # What do you call your C compiler? CC = cc # Where do you want Majordomo to be installed? This CANNOT be the # current directory (where you unpacked the distribution) W_HOME = /usr/local/majordomo-$(VERSION) # Where do you want man pages to be installed? MAN = $(W_HOME)/man # You need to have or create a user and group which majordomo will run as. # Enter the numeric UID and GID (not their names!) here: W_USER = 250 W_GROUP = 2 # These set the permissions for all installed files and executables (except # the wrapper), respectively. Some sites may wish to make these more # lenient, or more restrictive. FILE_MODE = 664 EXEC_MODE = 755 HOME_MODE = 751 # If your system is POSIX (e.g. Sun Solaris, SGI Irix 5 and 6, Dec Ultrix MIPS, # BSDI or other 4.4-based BSD, Linux) use the following four lines. Do not # change these values! WRAPPER_OWNER = root WRAPPER_GROUP = $(W_GROUP) WRAPPER_MODE = 4755 POSIX = -DPOSIX_UID=$(W_USER) -DPOSIX_GID=$(W_GROUP) # Otherwise, if your system is NOT POSIX (e.g. SunOS 4.x, SGI Irix 4, # HP DomainOS) then comment out the above four lines and uncomment # the following four lines. # WRAPPER_OWNER = $(W_USER) # WRAPPER_GROUP = $(W_GROUP) # WRAPPER_MODE = 6755 # POSIX = # Define this if the majordomo programs should *also* be run in the same # group as your MTA, usually sendmail. This is rarely needed, but some # MTAs require certain group memberships before allowing the message sender # to be set arbitrarily. MAIL_GID = 26 # This is the environment that (along with LOGNAME and USER inherited from the # parent process, and without the leading "W_" in the variable names) gets # passed to processes run by "wrapper" W_SHELL = /bin/sh W_PATH = /bin:/usr/bin:/usr/ucb *** Applicable parms in /var/ drwxr-xr-x 2 defang root 4096 Jan 15 17:41 mimedefang PArms in /var/spool drwxrwxr-x 2 root daemon 4096 Jan 15 02:27 clientmqueue drwx------ 2 root root 4096 Jan 15 12:54 cron drwxr-xr-x 2 root root 4096 Jun 24 2001 fax drwxr-xr-x 2 root root 4096 Jun 1 2000 lpd drwxrwxr-x 2 root mail 4096 Jan 15 18:54 mail drwx------ 4 defang root 4096 Jan 15 18:54 MIMEDefang drwxrwxr-x 2 root amavis 4096 May 14 2002 mqamavis drwxr-xr-x 2 root mail 20480 Jan 15 18:54 mqueue parms in majordomo wrapper etc. -rwxr-xr-x 1 majordom daemon 5283 Jul 23 2001 archive -rwxr-xr-x 1 majordom daemon 5273 Jan 15 18:29 archive2.pl drwxr-xr-x 74 majordom daemon 4096 Aug 9 08:52 archives drwxr-xr-x 2 majordom daemon 4096 Jan 15 18:20 bin -rwxr-xr-x 1 majordom daemon 2801 Jan 15 18:29 bounce-remind -rwxr-xr-x 1 majordom daemon 51130 Jan 15 18:29 config_parse.pl -rwxr-xr-x 1 majordom daemon 10677 Jan 15 18:29 config-test -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 61021 Nov 8 09:02 conf.tgz -rwxr-xr-x 1 majordom daemon 14207 Jan 15 18:29 digest drwxr-xr-x 12 majordom daemon 4096 Aug 20 2001 digests drwxr-xr-x 3 majordom daemon 4096 Jul 24 2001 doc drwxr-xr-x 4 root root 4096 Apr 4 2002 hypermail drwxr-xr-x 3 majordom daemon 4096 Jul 24 2001 lib drwx--x--x 2 majordom daemon 4096 Jan 15 18:52 lists -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 25707 Nov 8 09:00 lists.aliases -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 8684 Jan 15 16:00 majorcool.cf -rwxr-xr-x 1 apache apache 8684 Aug 2 2001 majorcool_default.cf -rwxr-xr-x 1 apache apache 163833 Aug 2 2001 majorcool.pl -rwxr-xr-x 1 majordom daemon 62517 Jan 15 18:29 majordomo -rw-r--r-- 1 majordom daemon 10539 Apr 15 2002 majordomo.cf -rw-rw-r-- 1 majordom root 1611193 Jan 15 18:23 majordomo.log -rwxr-xr-x 1 majordom daemon 24381 Jan 15 18:29 majordomo.pl -rwxr-xr-x 1 majordom daemon 137 Jan 15 18:29 majordomo_version.pl drwxr-xr-x 5 majordom daemon 4096 Apr 4 2002 man -rwxr-xr-x 1 apache apache 3622 Aug 2 2001 mj_key_cache -rwxr-xr-x 1 majordom daemon 3797 Jan 15 18:29 request-answer -rwxr-xr-x 1 majordom daemon 29925 Jan 15 18:29 resend -rw-rw-r-- 1 majordom daemon 10462 Jan 15 18:29 sample.cf drwxr-xr-x 3 majordom daemon 4096 Jul 24 2001 share -rwxr-xr-x 1 majordom daemon 8060 Jan 15 18:29 shlock.pl drwxr-xr-x 3 root root 4096 Apr 4 2002 src drwxr-xr-x 2 majordom daemon 4096 Jan 15 18:20 Tools -rwsr-xr-x 1 root daemon 16883 Jan 15 18:30 wrapper From majordomo-users-owner@greatcircle.com Wed Jan 15 17:28:57 2003 Received: from earthops (earthops.org [216.194.205.50]) by mycroft.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4BD0D195F9C for ; Wed, 15 Jan 2003 17:28:53 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (thardman@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by earthops (8.12.2/8.12.2) with ESMTP id h0G1SomX013796; Wed, 15 Jan 2003 20:28:50 -0500 Date: Wed, 15 Jan 2003 20:28:50 -0500 (EST) From: Thomas Hardman Jr To: majordomo-users@greatcircle.com Cc: cert@cert.org Subject: A Majordomo Usurped to Spread W32/SoBig Virus Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Archive-Number: 200301/73 X-Sequence-Number: 2573 This is a notification about a majordomo being used to distribute a virus. Two days ago, a light-traffic mailing list I manage was sent some traffic. Yesterday, a subscriber to that list was infected with the new W32/SoBig virus. Here is an example of the aliases I was using (modified slightly): steering: "|/home/majordomo/wrapper resend -l steering steering-list" steering-list: :include:/home/majordomo/lists/steering owner-steering: hill steering-owner: hill steering-request: "|/home/majordomo/wrapper majordomo -l steering" steering-approval: hill Apparently in the full-headers of received mail, the "steering list" is visible. And while the list "steering" is set restrict-post and is closed to postings other than from the restrict-post list, for some reason, the alias "steering-list" is not so protected. Mail sent to steering-list goes to the entire list. Others may wish to check reproducibility. To continue, this user's infected computer evidently sent mail to "steering-list", bypassing the restrict-post controls, probably by accident. However, this had the effect of causing my majordomo to send a copy of the virus to a large number of subscribers. Thus, a windows-only virus was able to propagate through a UNIX server. A more complete incident report follows, to CERT, under separate cover. One possible fix might involve using a different aliasing system, for instance, steering: "|/home/majordomo/wrapper resend -l steering -f steering" ## (with the steering-list entries removed) owner-steering: hill steering-owner: hill steering-request: "|/home/majordomo/wrapper majordomo -l steering" steering-approval: hill At present, as my majordomo is intended as a notification system, rather than a conversational list, I am going to take the easy route of simply changing the "steering-list" alias after every use. It's a fast and dirty by extremely unelegant way to close this hole. -- T. Jr. Hardman TJH Internet SP thardman@earthops.org From majordomo-users-owner@greatcircle.com Wed Jan 15 17:43:14 2003 Received: from earthops (earthops.org [216.194.205.50]) by mycroft.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id BD7C1195BB6 for ; Wed, 15 Jan 2003 17:43:09 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (thardman@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by earthops (8.12.2/8.12.2) with ESMTP id h0G1h8mX013926 for ; Wed, 15 Jan 2003 20:43:08 -0500 Date: Wed, 15 Jan 2003 20:43:08 -0500 (EST) From: Thomas Hardman Jr To: majordomo-users@greatcircle.com Subject: Re: Sendmail 8.12.x breaks majordomo, urgent help needed In-Reply-To: <3008.63.97.120.178.1042678718.squirrel@mail.owbn.org> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Archive-Number: 200301/74 X-Sequence-Number: 2574 On Wed, 15 Jan 2003, Ross Anderson wrote: [remarks interspersed below] > > As with all great upgrades of sendmail We've broken our majordomo list > server. It's a very busy server so if I can get any help ASAP I'll > appreciate it. I'm including many pieces of info here. The majordomo test > script doesn't complain about anything. We've changed parms, uid, and gid > that I've gotten lost. I'm sure there are obvious errors so please point > them all out. Throw out what you spot. Thanks all in advance. > *Error Log** > > an 15 18:38:37 owbn sendmail[3845]: h0G0cb5D003845: > from=, size=598, class=0, nrcpts=1, > msgid=<3004.63.97.120.178.1042677517.squirrel@mail.owbn.org>, proto=SMTP, > daemon=MTA, relay=localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1] > Jan 15 18:38:38 owbn mimedefang.pl[988]: > MDLOG,h0G0cb5D003845,spam,2.4,127.0.0.1,,,eatse > Jan 15 18:38:38 owbn sendmail[3845]: h0G0cb5D003845: Milter add: header: > X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.28 (www . roaringpenguin . com / mimedefang) > Jan 15 18:38:38 owbn sendmail[3848]: h0G0cb5D003845: h0G0cc5D003848: > clone: owner=shawn@owbn.org > Jan 15 18:38:38 owbn imapd[3844]: Logout user=ross_anderson > host=localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1] > Jan 15 18:38:38 owbn imapd[3850]: imap service init from 127.0.0.1 > Jan 15 18:38:38 owbn imapd[3850]: Login user=ross_anderson > host=localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1] > Jan 15 18:38:38 owbn sendmail[3851]: NOQUEUE: SYSERR(majordomo): can not > write to queue directory /var/spool/clientmqueue/ (RunAsGid=0, > required=2): Permission denied Here's your problem. > Jan 15 18:38:38 owbn sendmail[3851]: dangerous permissions=40775 on queue > directory /var/spool/clientmqueue/ Fix these permissions. Should probably be chmod 770 , there's some possibility it needs to be 4770 but not likely. `ls -l /var/spool |grep clientmqueue` should give you drwxrwx--- 2 smmsp smmsp clientmqueue/ If not, try chown -R smmsp.smmsp /var/spool/clientmqueue ; chmod 770 /var/spool/clientmqueue You might have to add majordomo's user to /etc/group under group smmsp HTH! Oh, a `uname -a` might be helpful along with the rest of the dump. More below: > Jan 15 18:38:38 owbn sendmail[3848]: h0G0cc5D003848: to="|wrapper resend > -l test test-list", ctladdr= (47/0), delay=00:00:01, > xdelay=00:00:00, mailer=prog, pri=30944, dsn=2.0.0, stat=Sent > Jan 15 18:38:38 owbn imapd[3850]: Logout user=ross_anderson > host=localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1] > > > ****Relivant PASSWD file**** > root:x:0:0:root:/root:/bin/bash > bin:x:1:1:bin:/bin: > daemon:x:2:2:daemon:/sbin: > mailnull:x:47:47::/var/spool/mqueue:/dev/null > smmsp:x:26:26::/home/smmsp:/bin/sh Probably this should be /bin/bash rather than /bin/sh > mail:x:8:12:mail:/var/spool/mail: > named:x:25:25:Named:/var/named:/bin/false > majordomo:x:250:2:majordomo:/usr/local/majordomo:/bin/bash > -- T. Jr. Hardman TJH Internet SP thardman@earthops.org From majordomo-users-owner@greatcircle.com Wed Jan 15 17:59:11 2003 Received: from daniel.liston.nu (24-116-58-25.cpe.cableone.net [24.116.58.25]) by mycroft.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8C753195A49 for ; Wed, 15 Jan 2003 17:59:10 -0800 (PST) Received: from sonny.org (daniel.liston.nu [192.168.1.65]) by daniel.liston.nu (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id h0G1x8vg001737; Wed, 15 Jan 2003 19:59:09 -0600 Message-ID: <3E261300.4000309@sonny.org> Date: Wed, 15 Jan 2003 20:03:44 -0600 From: Daniel Liston User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.0; en-US; rv:1.0.2) Gecko/20021120 Netscape/7.01 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: ross_anderson@owbn.org Cc: majordomo-users@greatcircle.com Subject: Re: Sendmail 8.12.x breaks majordomo, urgent help needed References: <3008.63.97.120.178.1042678718.squirrel@mail.owbn.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Archive-Number: 200301/75 X-Sequence-Number: 2575 What about submit.cf? Does it trust majordomo? What permissions does smmsp have? It looks like the directory smmsp has to write to is owned by root. Just throwing things out. Hopefully someone can recycle them into something useful. :) Dan Liston From majordomo-users-owner@greatcircle.com Wed Jan 15 18:11:37 2003 Received: from owbn.org (24-116-189-179.cpe.cableone.net [24.116.189.179]) by mycroft.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5F606195A49 for ; Wed, 15 Jan 2003 18:11:34 -0800 (PST) Received: from owbn.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by owbn.org (8.12.7/8.12.7) with SMTP id h0G1xE5D005864; Wed, 15 Jan 2003 19:59:23 -0600 Received: from 63.97.120.178 (SquirrelMail authenticated user ross_anderson) by mail.owbn.org with HTTP; Wed, 15 Jan 2003 19:59:23 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <3320.63.97.120.178.1042682363.squirrel@mail.owbn.org> Date: Wed, 15 Jan 2003 19:59:23 -0600 (CST) Subject: Re: Sendmail 8.12.x breaks majordomo, urgent help needed From: "Ross Anderson" To: In-Reply-To: References: <3008.63.97.120.178.1042678718.squirrel@mail.owbn.org> X-Priority: 3 Importance: Normal X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Cc: Reply-To: ross_anderson@owbn.org X-Mailer: SquirrelMail (version 1.2.7) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Score: 0.3 () IN_REP_TO,MISSING_MIMEOLE,MISSING_OUTLOOK_NAME,QUOTED_EMAIL_TEXT,REFERENCES,SPAM_PHRASE_00_01 X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.28 (www . roaringpenguin . com / mimedefang) X-Archive-Number: 200301/76 X-Sequence-Number: 2576 With the changes you suggested I get this. Jan 15 19:58:15 owbn sendmail[5825]: NOQUEUE: SYSERR(majordomo): can not chdir(/var/spool/clientmqueue/): Permission denied Jan 15 19:58:15 owbn sendmail[5822]: h0G1wF5D005822: to="|wrapper resend -l test test-list", ctladdr= (47/0), delay=00:00:01, xdelay=00:00:00, mailer=prog, pri=30949, dsn=2.0.0, stat=Sent > On Wed, 15 Jan 2003, Ross Anderson wrote: > > [remarks interspersed below] > >> >> As with all great upgrades of sendmail We've broken our majordomo list >> server. It's a very busy server so if I can get any help ASAP I'll >> appreciate it. I'm including many pieces of info here. The majordomo >> test script doesn't complain about anything. We've changed parms, uid, >> and gid that I've gotten lost. I'm sure there are obvious errors so >> please point them all out. Throw out what you spot. Thanks all in >> advance. >> *Error Log** >> >> an 15 18:38:37 owbn sendmail[3845]: h0G0cb5D003845: >> from=, size=598, class=0, nrcpts=1, >> msgid=<3004.63.97.120.178.1042677517.squirrel@mail.owbn.org>, >> proto=SMTP, daemon=MTA, relay=localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1] >> Jan 15 18:38:38 owbn mimedefang.pl[988]: >> MDLOG,h0G0cb5D003845,spam,2.4,127.0.0.1,,,eatse >> Jan 15 18:38:38 owbn sendmail[3845]: h0G0cb5D003845: Milter add: >> header: X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.28 (www . roaringpenguin . com / >> mimedefang) Jan 15 18:38:38 owbn sendmail[3848]: h0G0cb5D003845: >> h0G0cc5D003848: clone: owner=shawn@owbn.org >> Jan 15 18:38:38 owbn imapd[3844]: Logout user=ross_anderson >> host=localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1] >> Jan 15 18:38:38 owbn imapd[3850]: imap service init from 127.0.0.1 Jan >> 15 18:38:38 owbn imapd[3850]: Login user=ross_anderson >> host=localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1] >> Jan 15 18:38:38 owbn sendmail[3851]: NOQUEUE: SYSERR(majordomo): can >> not write to queue directory /var/spool/clientmqueue/ (RunAsGid=0, >> required=2): Permission denied > > Here's your problem. > >> Jan 15 18:38:38 owbn sendmail[3851]: dangerous permissions=40775 on >> queue directory /var/spool/clientmqueue/ > > Fix these permissions. Should probably be chmod 770 , there's some > possibility it needs to be 4770 but not likely. > > `ls -l /var/spool |grep clientmqueue` > should give you > drwxrwx--- 2 smmsp smmsp clientmqueue/ > > If not, try > > chown -R smmsp.smmsp /var/spool/clientmqueue ; chmod 770 > /var/spool/clientmqueue > > You might have to add majordomo's user to /etc/group under group smmsp > > HTH! > > Oh, a `uname -a` might be helpful along with the rest of the dump. > > More below: > >> Jan 15 18:38:38 owbn sendmail[3848]: h0G0cc5D003848: to="|wrapper >> resend -l test test-list", ctladdr= (47/0), >> delay=00:00:01, xdelay=00:00:00, mailer=prog, pri=30944, dsn=2.0.0, >> stat=Sent >> Jan 15 18:38:38 owbn imapd[3850]: Logout user=ross_anderson >> host=localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1] >> >> >> ****Relivant PASSWD file**** >> root:x:0:0:root:/root:/bin/bash >> bin:x:1:1:bin:/bin: >> daemon:x:2:2:daemon:/sbin: >> mailnull:x:47:47::/var/spool/mqueue:/dev/null >> smmsp:x:26:26::/home/smmsp:/bin/sh > > Probably this should be /bin/bash rather than /bin/sh > >> mail:x:8:12:mail:/var/spool/mail: >> named:x:25:25:Named:/var/named:/bin/false >> majordomo:x:250:2:majordomo:/usr/local/majordomo:/bin/bash >> > > > > -- > T. Jr. Hardman > TJH Internet SP > thardman@earthops.org From majordomo-users-owner@greatcircle.com Wed Jan 15 18:19:20 2003 Received: from owbn.org (24-116-189-179.cpe.cableone.net [24.116.189.179]) by mycroft.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D8A37195A7F for ; Wed, 15 Jan 2003 18:19:17 -0800 (PST) Received: from owbn.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by owbn.org (8.12.7/8.12.7) with SMTP id h0G27O5D006104; Wed, 15 Jan 2003 20:07:24 -0600 Received: from 63.97.120.178 (SquirrelMail authenticated user ross_anderson) by mail.owbn.org with HTTP; Wed, 15 Jan 2003 20:07:24 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <3368.63.97.120.178.1042682844.squirrel@mail.owbn.org> Date: Wed, 15 Jan 2003 20:07:24 -0600 (CST) Subject: Re: Sendmail 8.12.x breaks majordomo, urgent help needed From: "Ross Anderson" To: In-Reply-To: References: <3008.63.97.120.178.1042678718.squirrel@mail.owbn.org> X-Priority: 3 Importance: Normal X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Cc: Reply-To: ross_anderson@owbn.org X-Mailer: SquirrelMail (version 1.2.7) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Score: 0.3 () IN_REP_TO,MISSING_MIMEOLE,MISSING_OUTLOOK_NAME,QUOTED_EMAIL_TEXT,REFERENCES,SPAM_PHRASE_00_01 X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.28 (www . roaringpenguin . com / mimedefang) X-Archive-Number: 200301/77 X-Sequence-Number: 2577 Take that back, This is the correct error. sorry Jan 15 20:04:18 owbn sendmail[6008]: NOQUEUE: SYSERR(majordomo): can not chdir(/var/spool/clientmqueue/): Permission denied Jan 15 20:04:18 owbn sendmail[6005]: h0G24I5D006005: to="|wrapper resend -l test test-list", ctladdr= (47/0), delay=00:00:01, xdelay=00:00:00, mailer=prog, pri=30944, dsn=2.0.0, stat=Sent > On Wed, 15 Jan 2003, Ross Anderson wrote: > > [remarks interspersed below] > >> >> As with all great upgrades of sendmail We've broken our majordomo list >> server. It's a very busy server so if I can get any help ASAP I'll >> appreciate it. I'm including many pieces of info here. The majordomo >> test script doesn't complain about anything. We've changed parms, uid, >> and gid that I've gotten lost. I'm sure there are obvious errors so >> please point them all out. Throw out what you spot. Thanks all in >> advance. >> *Error Log** >> >> an 15 18:38:37 owbn sendmail[3845]: h0G0cb5D003845: >> from=, size=598, class=0, nrcpts=1, >> msgid=<3004.63.97.120.178.1042677517.squirrel@mail.owbn.org>, >> proto=SMTP, daemon=MTA, relay=localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1] >> Jan 15 18:38:38 owbn mimedefang.pl[988]: >> MDLOG,h0G0cb5D003845,spam,2.4,127.0.0.1,,,eatse >> Jan 15 18:38:38 owbn sendmail[3845]: h0G0cb5D003845: Milter add: >> header: X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.28 (www . roaringpenguin . com / >> mimedefang) Jan 15 18:38:38 owbn sendmail[3848]: h0G0cb5D003845: >> h0G0cc5D003848: clone: owner=shawn@owbn.org >> Jan 15 18:38:38 owbn imapd[3844]: Logout user=ross_anderson >> host=localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1] >> Jan 15 18:38:38 owbn imapd[3850]: imap service init from 127.0.0.1 Jan >> 15 18:38:38 owbn imapd[3850]: Login user=ross_anderson >> host=localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1] >> Jan 15 18:38:38 owbn sendmail[3851]: NOQUEUE: SYSERR(majordomo): can >> not write to queue directory /var/spool/clientmqueue/ (RunAsGid=0, >> required=2): Permission denied > > Here's your problem. > >> Jan 15 18:38:38 owbn sendmail[3851]: dangerous permissions=40775 on >> queue directory /var/spool/clientmqueue/ > > Fix these permissions. Should probably be chmod 770 , there's some > possibility it needs to be 4770 but not likely. > > `ls -l /var/spool |grep clientmqueue` > should give you > drwxrwx--- 2 smmsp smmsp clientmqueue/ > > If not, try > > chown -R smmsp.smmsp /var/spool/clientmqueue ; chmod 770 > /var/spool/clientmqueue > > You might have to add majordomo's user to /etc/group under group smmsp > > HTH! > > Oh, a `uname -a` might be helpful along with the rest of the dump. > > More below: > >> Jan 15 18:38:38 owbn sendmail[3848]: h0G0cc5D003848: to="|wrapper >> resend -l test test-list", ctladdr= (47/0), >> delay=00:00:01, xdelay=00:00:00, mailer=prog, pri=30944, dsn=2.0.0, >> stat=Sent >> Jan 15 18:38:38 owbn imapd[3850]: Logout user=ross_anderson >> host=localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1] >> >> >> ****Relivant PASSWD file**** >> root:x:0:0:root:/root:/bin/bash >> bin:x:1:1:bin:/bin: >> daemon:x:2:2:daemon:/sbin: >> mailnull:x:47:47::/var/spool/mqueue:/dev/null >> smmsp:x:26:26::/home/smmsp:/bin/sh > > Probably this should be /bin/bash rather than /bin/sh > >> mail:x:8:12:mail:/var/spool/mail: >> named:x:25:25:Named:/var/named:/bin/false >> majordomo:x:250:2:majordomo:/usr/local/majordomo:/bin/bash >> > > > > -- > T. Jr. Hardman > TJH Internet SP > thardman@earthops.org From majordomo-users-owner@greatcircle.com Wed Jan 15 18:35:04 2003 Received: from owbn.org (24-116-189-179.cpe.cableone.net [24.116.189.179]) by mycroft.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8FB58195A7B for ; Wed, 15 Jan 2003 18:35:01 -0800 (PST) Received: from owbn.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by owbn.org (8.12.7/8.12.7) with SMTP id h0G2N8hN006696; Wed, 15 Jan 2003 20:23:14 -0600 Received: from 63.97.120.178 (SquirrelMail authenticated user ross_anderson) by mail.owbn.org with HTTP; Wed, 15 Jan 2003 20:23:19 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <3445.63.97.120.178.1042683799.squirrel@mail.owbn.org> Date: Wed, 15 Jan 2003 20:23:19 -0600 (CST) Subject: Re: Sendmail 8.12.x breaks majordomo, urgent help needed From: "Ross Anderson" To: In-Reply-To: <3E261300.4000309@sonny.org> References: <3008.63.97.120.178.1042678718.squirrel@mail.owbn.org> <3E261300.4000309@sonny.org> X-Priority: 3 Importance: Normal X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Cc: Reply-To: ross_anderson@owbn.org X-Mailer: SquirrelMail (version 1.2.7) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Score: 0.3 () IN_REP_TO,MISSING_MIMEOLE,MISSING_OUTLOOK_NAME,QUOTED_EMAIL_TEXT,REFERENCES,SPAM_PHRASE_00_01 X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.28 (www . roaringpenguin . com / mimedefang) X-Archive-Number: 200301/78 X-Sequence-Number: 2578 > What about submit.cf? Does it trust majordomo? What permissions > does smmsp have? It looks like the directory smmsp has to write > to is owned by root. Just throwing things out. Hopefully someone can > recycle them into something useful. :) > > Dan Liston I think this is right. I'm unsure as to if we still m4 or use the new build as discribed on the sendmail.org page. divert(-1) # # Copyright (c) 2001, 2002 Sendmail, Inc. and its suppliers. # All rights reserved. # # By using this file, you agree to the terms and conditions set # forth in the LICENSE file which can be found at the top level of # the sendmail distribution. # # # # This is the prototype file for a set-group-ID sm-msp sendmail that # acts as a initial mail submission program. # divert(0)dnl VERSIONID(`$Id: submit.mc,v 8.6.2.4 2002/12/29 03:54:34 ca Exp $') define(`confCF_VERSION', `Submit')dnl define(`__OSTYPE__',`')dnl dirty hack to keep proto.m4 from complaining define(`_USE_DECNET_SYNTAX_', `1')dnl support DECnet define(`confTIME_ZONE', `USE_TZ')dnl define(`confDONT_INIT_GROUPS', `True')dnl dnl dnl If you use IPv6 only, change [127.0.0.1] to [IPv6:::1] define(`confTRUSTED_USERS', `majordomo')dnl FEATURE(`msp', `[127.0.0.1]')dnl From majordomo-users-owner@greatcircle.com Wed Jan 15 19:15:57 2003 Received: from daniel.liston.nu (24-116-58-25.cpe.cableone.net [24.116.58.25]) by mycroft.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id DD37F195B33 for ; Wed, 15 Jan 2003 19:15:53 -0800 (PST) Received: from sonny.org (daniel.liston.nu [192.168.1.65]) by daniel.liston.nu (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id h0G3Fevg002297; Wed, 15 Jan 2003 21:15:41 -0600 Message-ID: <3E2624F0.8010106@sonny.org> Date: Wed, 15 Jan 2003 21:20:16 -0600 From: Daniel Liston User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.0; en-US; rv:1.0.2) Gecko/20021120 Netscape/7.01 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Thomas Hardman Jr Cc: majordomo-users@greatcircle.com, cert@cert.org Subject: Re: A Majordomo Usurped to Spread W32/SoBig Virus References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Archive-Number: 200301/79 X-Sequence-Number: 2579 You should read this list more often. We have had this discussion many times per year, going on 4 years now. The solution is simple. Just insert ",nobody" before the final quote on your steering alias. Do yourself a favor and leave the steering-list alias renamed, and do one more thing for yourself and your members. Enable virtusertable in sendmail and add this line to it, replacing steering-list with whatever you renamed the alias to; steering-list@your.domain error:nouser User unknown The whitespace contains at least one character. Be sure to rebuild the hash database when you are done, and for good measure but not mandatory, restart sendmail. Dan Liston Thomas Hardman Jr wrote: > > This is a notification about a majordomo being used to distribute a virus. > > Two days ago, a light-traffic mailing list I manage was sent some > traffic. Yesterday, a subscriber to that list was infected with the new > W32/SoBig virus. > > Here is an example of the aliases I was using (modified slightly): > > steering: "|/home/majordomo/wrapper resend -l steering steering-list" > steering-list: :include:/home/majordomo/lists/steering > owner-steering: hill > steering-owner: hill > steering-request: "|/home/majordomo/wrapper majordomo -l steering" > steering-approval: hill > > Apparently in the full-headers of received mail, the "steering list" is > visible. And while the list "steering" is set restrict-post and is closed > to postings other than from the restrict-post list, for some reason, the > alias "steering-list" is not so protected. Mail sent to steering-list goes > to the entire list. > > Others may wish to check reproducibility. > > To continue, this user's infected computer evidently sent mail to > "steering-list", bypassing the restrict-post controls, probably by > accident. > > However, this had the effect of causing my majordomo to send a copy of the > virus to a large number of subscribers. Thus, a windows-only virus was > able to propagate through a UNIX server. > > A more complete incident report follows, to CERT, under separate cover. > > One possible fix might involve using a different aliasing system, for > instance, > > steering: "|/home/majordomo/wrapper resend -l steering -f steering" > ## (with the steering-list entries removed) > owner-steering: hill > steering-owner: hill > steering-request: "|/home/majordomo/wrapper majordomo -l steering" > steering-approval: hill > > > At present, as my majordomo is intended as a notification system, rather > than a conversational list, I am going to take the easy route of simply > changing the "steering-list" alias after every use. It's a fast and dirty > by extremely unelegant way to close this hole. > > > -- > T. Jr. Hardman > TJH Internet SP > thardman@earthops.org From majordomo-users-owner@greatcircle.com Wed Jan 15 19:40:48 2003 Received: from earthops (earthops.org [216.194.205.50]) by mycroft.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E3AD91960DC for ; Wed, 15 Jan 2003 19:40:45 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (thardman@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by earthops (8.12.2/8.12.2) with ESMTP id h0G3egmX014838; Wed, 15 Jan 2003 22:40:42 -0500 Date: Wed, 15 Jan 2003 22:40:42 -0500 (EST) From: Thomas Hardman Jr To: Daniel Liston Cc: majordomo-users@greatcircle.com, cert@cert.org Subject: Re: A Majordomo Usurped to Spread W32/SoBig Virus In-Reply-To: <3E2624F0.8010106@sonny.org> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Archive-Number: 200301/80 X-Sequence-Number: 2580 Thank you _very_ much. On Wed, 15 Jan 2003, Daniel Liston wrote: > You should read this list more often. We have had this discussion > many times per year, going on 4 years now. The solution is simple. > Just insert ",nobody" before the final quote on your steering alias. > Do yourself a favor and leave the steering-list alias renamed, and > do one more thing for yourself and your members. Enable virtusertable > in sendmail and add this line to it, replacing steering-list with > whatever you renamed the alias to; > > steering-list@your.domain error:nouser User unknown > > The whitespace contains at least one character. Be sure to > rebuild the hash database when you are done, and for good measure > but not mandatory, restart sendmail. > > Dan Liston > > Thomas Hardman Jr wrote: > > > > This is a notification about a majordomo being used to distribute a virus. > > > > Two days ago, a light-traffic mailing list I manage was sent some > > traffic. Yesterday, a subscriber to that list was infected with the new > > W32/SoBig virus. > > > > Here is an example of the aliases I was using (modified slightly): > > > > steering: "|/home/majordomo/wrapper resend -l steering steering-list" > > steering-list: :include:/home/majordomo/lists/steering > > owner-steering: hill > > steering-owner: hill > > steering-request: "|/home/majordomo/wrapper majordomo -l steering" > > steering-approval: hill > > > > Apparently in the full-headers of received mail, the "steering list" is > > visible. And while the list "steering" is set restrict-post and is closed > > to postings other than from the restrict-post list, for some reason, the > > alias "steering-list" is not so protected. Mail sent to steering-list goes > > to the entire list. > > > > Others may wish to check reproducibility. > > > > To continue, this user's infected computer evidently sent mail to > > "steering-list", bypassing the restrict-post controls, probably by > > accident. > > > > However, this had the effect of causing my majordomo to send a copy of the > > virus to a large number of subscribers. Thus, a windows-only virus was > > able to propagate through a UNIX server. > > > > A more complete incident report follows, to CERT, under separate cover. > > > > One possible fix might involve using a different aliasing system, for > > instance, > > > > steering: "|/home/majordomo/wrapper resend -l steering -f steering" > > ## (with the steering-list entries removed) > > owner-steering: hill > > steering-owner: hill > > steering-request: "|/home/majordomo/wrapper majordomo -l steering" > > steering-approval: hill > > > > > > At present, as my majordomo is intended as a notification system, rather > > than a conversational list, I am going to take the easy route of simply > > changing the "steering-list" alias after every use. It's a fast and dirty > > by extremely unelegant way to close this hole. > > > > > > -- > > T. Jr. Hardman > > TJH Internet SP > > thardman@earthops.org > > T. Jr. Hardman TJH Internet SP thardman@earthops.org From majordomo-users-owner@greatcircle.com Wed Jan 15 21:03:27 2003 Received: from trip.mrball.net (66-214-180-43.la-cbi.charterpipeline.net [66.214.180.43]) by mycroft.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 67A28195A28 for ; Wed, 15 Jan 2003 21:03:26 -0800 (PST) Received: by trip.mrball.net (Postfix, from userid 501) id D041F2C066; Thu, 16 Jan 2003 00:03:20 -0500 (EST) Date: Wed, 15 Jan 2003 21:03:20 -0800 From: Todd Lyons To: majordomo-users@greatcircle.com Subject: Re: Sendmail 8.12.x breaks majordomo, urgent help needed Message-ID: <20030116050320.GA32509@mrball.net> Mail-Followup-To: majordomo-users@greatcircle.com References: <3008.63.97.120.178.1042678718.squirrel@mail.owbn.org> <3368.63.97.120.178.1042682844.squirrel@mail.owbn.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; x-action=pgp-signed Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <3368.63.97.120.178.1042682844.squirrel@mail.owbn.org> Organization: Progressive Linux Consultants X-mailer-flag: Outlook? Viral infections & bugs non-stop! Use another mailer if you value your data. User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.3i X-Archive-Number: 200301/81 X-Sequence-Number: 2581 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Ross Anderson wanted us to know: >Take that back, This is the correct error. sorry > > >Jan 15 20:04:18 owbn sendmail[6008]: NOQUEUE: SYSERR(majordomo): can not >chdir(/var/spool/clientmqueue/): Permission denied >Jan 15 20:04:18 owbn sendmail[6005]: h0G24I5D006005: to="|wrapper resend >-l test test-list", ctladdr= (47/0), delay=00:00:01, >xdelay=00:00:00, mailer=prog, pri=30944, dsn=2.0.0, stat=Sent The wrapper binary is suid to whatever user needs to be accessing that directory. Make sure it's the same user. - -- Blue skies... Todd Proprietary Software Licenses: Duping a person into making a vow of ignorance and then selling them the fruits of knowledge is like making them believe they benefit from having their head held under water while someone sells them oxygen. Linux kernel 2.4.19-16mdk 2 users, load average: 0.25, 0.76, 0.79 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.7 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE+Jj0YIBT1264ScBURAgB6AJ9UA0aHGNe6XXqMNftg8rlOVfQZ2wCfaVDj 59YQRq9koIrN1Lo6ROxoAz8= =4oMd -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From majordomo-users-owner@greatcircle.com Wed Jan 15 21:08:11 2003 Received: from trip.mrball.net (66-214-180-43.la-cbi.charterpipeline.net [66.214.180.43]) by mycroft.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8D6BE195ADF for ; Wed, 15 Jan 2003 21:08:10 -0800 (PST) Received: by trip.mrball.net (Postfix, from userid 501) id 6A1332C066; Thu, 16 Jan 2003 00:08:10 -0500 (EST) Date: Wed, 15 Jan 2003 21:08:10 -0800 From: Todd Lyons To: majordomo-users@greatcircle.com Subject: Re: A Majordomo Usurped to Spread W32/SoBig Virus Message-ID: <20030116050810.GB32509@mrball.net> Mail-Followup-To: majordomo-users@greatcircle.com References: <3E2624F0.8010106@sonny.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; x-action=pgp-signed Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <3E2624F0.8010106@sonny.org> Organization: Progressive Linux Consultants X-mailer-flag: Outlook? Viral infections & bugs non-stop! Use another mailer if you value your data. User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.3i X-Archive-Number: 200301/82 X-Sequence-Number: 2582 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Daniel Liston wanted us to know: >You should read this list more often. We have had this discussion >many times per year, going on 4 years now. The solution is simple. *THIS* is what I'm talking about with the documentation. Can't we just make a majordomo 1.94.5a with updated documentation? Would I be out of line if I took it upon myself to do something like this? - -- Blue skies... Todd | Get a bigger hammer! | A broken clock is right twice a day. | | http://www.mrball.net | --Steve Saitman | | http://faq.mrball.net | ...I don't even know what it is... | Linux kernel 2.4.19-16mdk 2 users, load average: 0.08, 0.60, 0.73 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.7 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE+Jj46IBT1264ScBURAhBtAJ0agNWwm3uIp+/5QKlsHbXQ+wjhdwCeMxE+ af9dNQA/3EIlOtRFtuZlElM= =LVsl -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From majordomo-users-owner@greatcircle.com Thu Jan 16 05:45:40 2003 Received: from earthops (earthops.org [216.194.205.50]) by mycroft.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A7C33195FEA for ; Thu, 16 Jan 2003 05:45:38 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (thardman@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by earthops (8.12.2/8.12.2) with ESMTP id h0GDjVmX019399; Thu, 16 Jan 2003 08:45:31 -0500 Date: Thu, 16 Jan 2003 08:45:31 -0500 (EST) From: Thomas Hardman Jr To: Todd Lyons Cc: majordomo-users@greatcircle.com Subject: Re: A Majordomo Usurped to Spread W32/SoBig Virus In-Reply-To: <20030116050810.GB32509@mrball.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Archive-Number: 200301/83 X-Sequence-Number: 2583 On Wed, 15 Jan 2003, Todd Lyons wrote: > Daniel Liston wanted us to know: > > >You should read this list more often. We have had this discussion > >many times per year, going on 4 years now. The solution is simple. > > *THIS* is what I'm talking about with the documentation. Can't we just > make a majordomo 1.94.5a with updated documentation? > > Would I be out of line if I took it upon myself to do something like > this? Putting up a "Security and anti-SPAM" section for the FAQ would sure be useful. -- T. Jr. Hardman TJH Internet SP thardman@earthops.org From majordomo-users-owner@greatcircle.com Thu Jan 16 11:39:07 2003 Received: from mailshell.com (web01.mailshell.com [209.157.66.231]) by mycroft.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with SMTP id 81A9D1965AC for ; Thu, 16 Jan 2003 11:39:05 -0800 (PST) Received: (qmail 1490 invoked by uid 99); 16 Jan 2003 19:38:59 -0000 Message-ID: <1042745939.3e270a5394ef4@www.mailshell.com> Date: Thu, 16 Jan 2003 11:38:59 -0800 X-Priority: 3 (Normal) From: To: majordomo-users@greatcircle.com Subject: Free Cleaning & Updating Plug-In For Majordomo MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit User-Agent: Mailshell.com X-Archive-Number: 200301/84 X-Sequence-Number: 2584 Hello- I wanted to draw to your attention a free plug-in for Majordomo offered by my company, FreshAddress, Inc. The program will compare your email list against our changed email address database, and provide: o - updated email addresses o - corrections for typos o - corrections for system-wide domain changes o - warnings on known bad or bouncing addresses For more information, check out: http://freshaddress.com/majordomo Normally, we sell these services to our corporate clients, including EMS & LL Bean. They are available for free to you because we are looking to increase our throughput on smaller lists and get additional feedback so that we may further develop our automated capabilities. Hope this is of interest to some of you! Regards, Austin Austin C. Bliss FreshAddress.com austin@freshaddress.com _______________________________________________________ The FREE service that prevents junk email http://www.mailshell.com From majordomo-users-owner@greatcircle.com Thu Jan 16 11:57:34 2003 Received: from postal1.lbl.gov (postal1.lbl.gov [128.3.7.82]) by mycroft.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5F7A1196647 for ; Thu, 16 Jan 2003 11:57:32 -0800 (PST) Received: from postal1.lbl.gov (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by postal1.lbl.gov (8.11.2/8.11.2) with ESMTP id h0GJvV006736 for ; Thu, 16 Jan 2003 11:57:31 -0800 (PST) Received: from postal.lbl.gov (postal.lbl.gov [128.3.1.85]) by postal1.lbl.gov (8.11.2/8.11.2) with ESMTP id h0GJvUM06731 for ; Thu, 16 Jan 2003 11:57:31 -0800 (PST) Received: from hawkfarm.lbl.gov (hawkfarm.lbl.gov [128.3.1.84]) by postal.lbl.gov (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id QAA24992 for ; Mon, 13 Jan 2003 16:25:31 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <200301140025.QAA24992@postal.lbl.gov> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0zeta 7/24/97 To: majordomo-users@greatcircle.com From: brdraney@nersc.gov Reply-To: brdraney@nersc.gov Subject: Re: Free Cleaning & Updating Plug-In For Majordomo In-reply-to: Your message of Thu, 16 Jan 2003 11:38:59 -0800. <1042745939.3e270a5394ef4@www.mailshell.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Thu, 16 Jan 2003 11:57:28 -0800 X-Archive-Number: 200301/85 X-Sequence-Number: 2585 Sounds like an address troller. Anyone want to sign up their list members to a lifetime of spam? Brent > Hello- > > I wanted to draw to your attention a free plug-in for Majordomo offered by my company, FreshAddress, Inc. The program will compare your email list against our changed email address database, and provide: > > o - updated email addresses > o - corrections for typos > o - corrections for system-wide domain changes > o - warnings on known bad or bouncing addresses > > For more information, check out: > http://freshaddress.com/majordomo > > Normally, we sell these services to our corporate clients, including EMS & > LL Bean. They are available for free to you because we are looking to > increase our throughput on smaller lists and get additional feedback so that > we may further develop our automated capabilities. > > Hope this is of interest to some of you! > > Regards, > Austin > > Austin C. Bliss > FreshAddress.com > austin@freshaddress.com > > _______________________________________________________ > The FREE service that prevents junk email http://www.mailshell.com From majordomo-users-owner@greatcircle.com Thu Jan 16 12:11:16 2003 Received: from gopostal.onlinepolicy.net (gopostal.onlinepolicy.net [209.237.225.72]) by mycroft.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0F59019661E for ; Thu, 16 Jan 2003 12:11:14 -0800 (PST) Received: from APTITUDE ([216.240.38.250]) by gopostal.onlinepolicy.net (Switch-2.2.0/Switch-2.2.0) with ESMTP id h0GJpIF10053; Thu, 16 Jan 2003 11:51:18 -0800 From: "Roger B.A. Klorese" To: , Subject: Re: Free Cleaning & Updating Plug-In For Majordomo Date: Thu, 16 Jan 2003 12:10:27 -0800 Message-ID: <7AD6B1A7CA734A48B95E96591302A9B905E481@sfdc.us.sychron.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.4024 In-Reply-To: <200301140025.QAA24992@postal.lbl.gov> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Importance: Normal X-Archive-Number: 200301/86 X-Sequence-Number: 2586 > Sounds like an address troller. Anyone want to sign up their > list members to a lifetime of spam? > > Brent It may sound like one, but that doesn't necessarily mean it is one. I use an address verifier (for my work email, not for my lists); to the best of my knowledge, this has never generated a single piece of spam for any of my correspondents. From majordomo-users-owner@greatcircle.com Thu Jan 16 12:41:26 2003 Received: from grebe.mail.pas.earthlink.net (grebe.mail.pas.earthlink.net [207.217.120.46]) by mycroft.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1FE881965C6 for ; Thu, 16 Jan 2003 12:41:25 -0800 (PST) Received: from h-69-3-72-124.phndaz91.covad.net ([69.3.72.124] helo=Vaio.earthlink.net) by grebe.mail.pas.earthlink.net with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #1) id 18ZGpF-0002mm-00 for majordomo-users@greatcircle.com; Thu, 16 Jan 2003 12:41:21 -0800 Message-Id: <5.2.0.9.2.20030116134052.00bc2150@pop.earthlink.net> X-Sender: bobbish@pop.earthlink.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.0.9 Date: Thu, 16 Jan 2003 13:41:18 -0700 To: majordomo-users@greatcircle.com From: Bob Bish Subject: Re: Free Cleaning & Updating Plug-In For Majordomo In-Reply-To: <200301140025.QAA24992@postal.lbl.gov> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed X-Archive-Number: 200301/87 X-Sequence-Number: 2587 At 12:57 PM 1/16/2003, brdraney@nersc.gov wrote: >Sounds like an address troller. Doesn't this list have restricted posting? ...Bob From majordomo-users-owner@greatcircle.com Thu Jan 16 12:58:44 2003 Received: from mailshell.com (web01.mailshell.com [209.157.66.231]) by mycroft.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with SMTP id 5D47F196624 for ; Thu, 16 Jan 2003 12:58:42 -0800 (PST) Received: (qmail 9929 invoked by uid 99); 16 Jan 2003 20:58:41 -0000 Message-ID: <1042750721.3e271d0161a96@www.mailshell.com> Date: Thu, 16 Jan 2003 12:58:41 -0800 X-Priority: 3 (Normal) From: To: majordomo-users@greatcircle.com Subject: Re: Free Cleaning & Updating Plug-In For Majordomo MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit User-Agent: Mailshell.com X-Archive-Number: 200301/88 X-Sequence-Number: 2588 Brent- Thanks for voicing your concern about spam. Unsolicited email certainly is a problem (you'll note that I have been participating in this list via a mailshell account) that we all struggle with. Let me assure you that the service we're offering is as described, and we are in the business of cleaning and correcting email address lists, not sending spam. Feel free to poke through our business pages if you'd like more of a sense of our full array of services ( http://freshaddress.com/biz ), and you can always call us if you'd like to talk this through w/a real person. :) -Austin Austin C. Bliss FreshAddress.com 617.965.4500 x202 austin@freshaddress.com ============================================ What's your FreshAddress? Sign up now for free... To Stay In Touch With Your Friends And Associates http://freshaddress.com The Free Change of Email Address Service > > Sounds like an address troller. Anyone want to sign up their > list members to a lifetime of spam? > > Brent _______________________________________________________ The FREE service that prevents junk email http://www.mailshell.com From majordomo-users-owner@greatcircle.com Thu Jan 16 13:02:09 2003 Received: from gopostal.onlinepolicy.net (gopostal.onlinepolicy.net [209.237.225.72]) by mycroft.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 05B741965EF for ; Thu, 16 Jan 2003 13:02:09 -0800 (PST) Received: from APTITUDE ([216.240.38.250]) by gopostal.onlinepolicy.net (Switch-2.2.0/Switch-2.2.0) with ESMTP id h0GKgCF10725; Thu, 16 Jan 2003 12:42:13 -0800 From: "Roger B.A. Klorese" To: "'Bob Bish'" , Subject: Re: Free Cleaning & Updating Plug-In For Majordomo Date: Thu, 16 Jan 2003 13:01:20 -0800 Message-ID: <7AD6B1A7CA734A48B95E96591302A9B905E489@sfdc.us.sychron.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.4024 In-Reply-To: <5.2.0.9.2.20030116134052.00bc2150@pop.earthlink.net> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Importance: Normal X-Archive-Number: 200301/89 X-Sequence-Number: 2589 > At 12:57 PM 1/16/2003, brdraney@nersc.gov wrote: > >Sounds like an address troller. > > Doesn't this list have restricted posting? I think he meant it sounds like their *business* is address trolling and reselling. I don't think it is. From majordomo-users-owner@greatcircle.com Thu Jan 16 13:13:45 2003 Received: from atl_tpl_exc_02.ztel.com (wiseone.z-tel.com [208.205.113.2]) by mycroft.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0F9AB19662B for ; Thu, 16 Jan 2003 13:13:43 -0800 (PST) Received: by atl_tpl_exc_02.ztel.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id ; Thu, 16 Jan 2003 16:13:41 -0500 Message-ID: <8DC3E60642C9D311B8D80008C77848DD061C999C@atl_tpl_exc_01.ztel.com> From: "Messervy, Joe M" To: "'majordomo-users@greatcircle.com'" Subject: Re: Free Cleaning & Updating Plug-In For Majordomo Date: Thu, 16 Jan 2003 16:13:28 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----_=_NextPart_001_01C2BDA4.1DA82440" X-Archive-Number: 200301/90 X-Sequence-Number: 2590 This message is in MIME format. Since your mail reader does not understand this format, some or all of this message may not be legible. ------_=_NextPart_001_01C2BDA4.1DA82440 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" I would think that this is not a troller as http://www.freshaddress.com is linked directly from http://www.greatcircle.com/majordomo/ under related links. -----Original Message----- From: brdraney@nersc.gov [mailto:brdraney@nersc.gov] Sent: Thursday, January 16, 2003 2:57 PM To: majordomo-users@greatcircle.com Subject: Re: Free Cleaning & Updating Plug-In For Majordomo Sounds like an address troller. Anyone want to sign up their list members to a lifetime of spam? Brent > Hello- > > I wanted to draw to your attention a free plug-in for Majordomo offered by my company, FreshAddress, Inc. The program will compare your email list against our changed email address database, and provide: > > o - updated email addresses > o - corrections for typos > o - corrections for system-wide domain changes > o - warnings on known bad or bouncing addresses > > For more information, check out: > http://freshaddress.com/majordomo > > Normally, we sell these services to our corporate clients, including EMS & > LL Bean. They are available for free to you because we are looking to > increase our throughput on smaller lists and get additional feedback so that > we may further develop our automated capabilities. > > Hope this is of interest to some of you! > > Regards, > Austin > > Austin C. Bliss > FreshAddress.com > austin@freshaddress.com > > _______________________________________________________ > The FREE service that prevents junk email http://www.mailshell.com ------_=_NextPart_001_01C2BDA4.1DA82440 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable RE: Free Cleaning & Updating Plug-In For Majordomo

I would think that this is not a troller as http://www.freshaddress.com is linked directly from http://www.greatcircle.com/majordomo/ under related = links.

-----Original Message-----
From: brdraney@nersc.gov [mailto:brdraney@nersc.gov]
Sent: Thursday, January 16, 2003 2:57 PM
To: majordomo-users@greatcircle.com
Subject: Re: Free Cleaning & Updating Plug-In For Ma= jordomo

Sounds like an address troller. Anyone want to sign= up their
list members to a lifetime of spam?

Brent

> Hello-
>
> I wanted to draw to your attention a free plug-in f= or Majordomo offered by my company, FreshAddress, Inc. The program wi= ll compare your email list against our changed email address database, and = provide:

>
> o - updated email addresses
> o - corrections for typos
> o - corrections for system-wide domain change= s
> o - warnings on known bad or bouncing address= es
>
> For more information, check out:
> http://freshaddress.com/majordomo
>
> Normally, we sell these services to our corporate c= lients, including EMS &
> LL Bean. They are available for free to you b= ecause we are looking to
> increase our throughput on smaller lists and get ad= ditional feedback so that
> we may further develop our automated capabilities.<= /FONT>
>
> Hope this is of interest to some of you!
>
> Regards,
> Austin
>
> Austin C. Bliss
> FreshAddress.com
> austin@freshaddress.com
>
> ___________________________________________________= ____
> The FREE service that prevents junk email http://www.mailshell.com

------_=_NextPart_001_01C2BDA4.1DA82440-- From majordomo-users-owner@greatcircle.com Thu Jan 16 13:38:55 2003 Received: from postal1.lbl.gov (postal1.lbl.gov [128.3.7.82]) by mycroft.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0F15519661F for ; Thu, 16 Jan 2003 13:38:51 -0800 (PST) Received: from postal1.lbl.gov (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by postal1.lbl.gov (8.11.2/8.11.2) with ESMTP id h0GLco021471 for ; Thu, 16 Jan 2003 13:38:50 -0800 (PST) Received: from postal.lbl.gov (postal.lbl.gov [128.3.1.85]) by postal1.lbl.gov (8.11.2/8.11.2) with ESMTP id h0GLcnM21462 for ; Thu, 16 Jan 2003 13:38:49 -0800 (PST) Received: from hawkfarm.lbl.gov (hawkfarm.lbl.gov [128.3.1.84]) by postal.lbl.gov (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id SAA25109 for ; Mon, 13 Jan 2003 18:06:50 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <200301140206.SAA25109@postal.lbl.gov> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0zeta 7/24/97 To: "'majordomo-users@greatcircle.com'" From: brdraney@nersc.gov Reply-To: brdraney@nersc.gov Subject: Re: Free Cleaning & Updating Plug-In For Majordomo In-reply-to: Your message of Thu, 16 Jan 2003 16:13:28 -0500. <8DC3E60642C9D311B8D80008C77848DD061C999C@atl_tpl_exc_01.ztel.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Thu, 16 Jan 2003 13:38:31 -0800 X-Archive-Number: 200301/91 X-Sequence-Number: 2591 I stand corrected and apologize for speaking off the cuff without info. Brent > > This message is in MIME format. Since your mail reader does not understand > this format, some or all of this message may not be legible. > > ------_=_NextPart_001_01C2BDA4.1DA82440 > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > > I would think that this is not a troller as http://www.freshaddress.com is > linked directly from http://www.greatcircle.com/majordomo/ under related > links. > > -----Original Message----- > From: brdraney@nersc.gov [mailto:brdraney@nersc.gov] > Sent: Thursday, January 16, 2003 2:57 PM > To: majordomo-users@greatcircle.com > Subject: Re: Free Cleaning & Updating Plug-In For Majordomo > > > Sounds like an address troller. Anyone want to sign up their > list members to a lifetime of spam? > > Brent > > > Hello- > > > > I wanted to draw to your attention a free plug-in for Majordomo offered by > my company, FreshAddress, Inc. The program will compare your email list > against our changed email address database, and provide: > > > > o - updated email addresses > > o - corrections for typos > > o - corrections for system-wide domain changes > > o - warnings on known bad or bouncing addresses > > > > For more information, check out: > > http://freshaddress.com/majordomo > > > > Normally, we sell these services to our corporate clients, including EMS & > > LL Bean. They are available for free to you because we are looking to > > increase our throughput on smaller lists and get additional feedback so > that > > we may further develop our automated capabilities. > > > > Hope this is of interest to some of you! > > > > Regards, > > Austin > > > > Austin C. Bliss > > FreshAddress.com > > austin@freshaddress.com > > > > _______________________________________________________ > > The FREE service that prevents junk email http://www.mailshell.com > > > ------_=_NextPart_001_01C2BDA4.1DA82440 > Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" > Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable > > > > > 1"> > > RE: Free Cleaning & Updating Plug-In For Majordomo > > > >

I would think that this is not a troller as tp://www.freshaddress.com" TARGET=3D"_blank">http://www.freshaddress.com > is linked directly from TARGET=3D"_blank">http://www.greatcircle.com/majordomo/ under related = > links.

> >

-----Original Message----- >
From: brdraney@nersc.gov [ sc.gov">mailto:brdraney@nersc.gov] >
Sent: Thursday, January 16, 2003 2:57 PM >
To: majordomo-users@greatcircle.com >
Subject: Re: Free Cleaning & Updating Plug-In For Ma= > jordomo >

>
> >

Sounds like an address troller. Anyone want to sign= > up their >
list members to a lifetime of spam? >

> >

Brent >

> >

> Hello- >
> >
> I wanted to draw to your attention a free plug-in f= > or Majordomo offered by my company, FreshAddress, Inc. The program wi= > ll compare your email list against our changed email address database, and = > provide:

> >

> >
> o - updated email addresses >
> o - corrections for typos >
> o - corrections for system-wide domain change= > s >
> o - warnings on known bad or bouncing address= > es >
> >
> For more information, check out: >
> T=3D"_blank">http://freshaddress.com/majordomo >
> >
> Normally, we sell these services to our corporate c= > lients, including EMS & >
> LL Bean. They are available for free to you b= > ecause we are looking to >
> increase our throughput on smaller lists and get ad= > ditional feedback so that >
> we may further develop our automated capabilities.<= > /FONT> >
> >
> Hope this is of interest to some of you! >
> >
> Regards, >
> Austin >
> >
> Austin C. Bliss >
> FreshAddress.com >
> austin@freshaddress.com >
> >
> ___________________________________________________= > ____ >
> The FREE service that prevents junk email =3D"http://www.mailshell.com" TARGET=3D"_blank">http://www.mailshell.com > >

> > > > ------_=_NextPart_001_01C2BDA4.1DA82440-- From majordomo-users-owner@greatcircle.com Thu Jan 16 13:46:44 2003 Received: from fed1mtao04.cox.net (fed1mtao04.cox.net [68.6.19.241]) by mycroft.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C80DC19668D for ; Thu, 16 Jan 2003 13:46:42 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost.localdomain ([68.105.87.114]) by fed1mtao04.cox.net (InterMail vM.5.01.04.05 201-253-122-122-105-20011231) with ESMTP id <20030116214642.KERJ2037.fed1mtao04.cox.net@localhost.localdomain>; Thu, 16 Jan 2003 16:46:42 -0500 Received: from john01 ([192.168.0.15]) by localhost.localdomain (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id h0GLllnb026771; Thu, 16 Jan 2003 13:47:48 -0800 From: "sloop" To: "'Bob Bish'" , Subject: Re: Free Cleaning & Updating Plug-In For Majordomo Date: Thu, 16 Jan 2003 13:46:40 -0800 Message-ID: <003e01c2bda8$c100dd90$0f00a8c0@john01> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.3416 In-Reply-To: <5.2.0.9.2.20030116134052.00bc2150@pop.earthlink.net> Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 X-Archive-Number: 200301/92 X-Sequence-Number: 2592 I checked it out, and this is an address troller Thank You, SloopJohnB -----Original Message----- From: majordomo-users-owner@greatcircle.com [mailto:majordomo-users-owner@greatcircle.com] On Behalf Of Bob Bish Sent: Thursday, January 16, 2003 12:41 PM To: majordomo-users@greatcircle.com Subject: Re: Free Cleaning & Updating Plug-In For Majordomo At 12:57 PM 1/16/2003, brdraney@nersc.gov wrote: >Sounds like an address troller. Doesn't this list have restricted posting? ...Bob From majordomo-users-owner@greatcircle.com Thu Jan 16 14:11:07 2003 Received: from gopostal.onlinepolicy.net (gopostal.onlinepolicy.net [209.237.225.72]) by mycroft.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0DD38196616 for ; Thu, 16 Jan 2003 14:11:06 -0800 (PST) Received: from APTITUDE ([216.240.38.250]) by gopostal.onlinepolicy.net (Switch-2.2.0/Switch-2.2.0) with ESMTP id h0GLoxF11155; Thu, 16 Jan 2003 13:50:59 -0800 From: "Roger B.A. Klorese" To: "'sloop'" , "'Bob Bish'" , Subject: Re: Free Cleaning & Updating Plug-In For Majordomo Date: Thu, 16 Jan 2003 14:10:08 -0800 Message-ID: <7AD6B1A7CA734A48B95E96591302A9B905E491@sfdc.us.sychron.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0171_01C2BD68.FA219AF0" X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.4024 In-Reply-To: <003e01c2bda8$c100dd90$0f00a8c0@john01> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Importance: Normal X-Archive-Number: 200301/93 X-Sequence-Number: 2593 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0171_01C2BD68.FA219AF0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > I checked it out, and this is an address troller By what definition? ------=_NextPart_000_0171_01C2BD68.FA219AF0 Content-Type: text/x-vcard; name="Roger B.A. Klorese (rogerk@sychron.com).vcf" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="Roger B.A. Klorese (rogerk@sychron.com).vcf" BEGIN:VCARD VERSION:2.1 N:Klorese;Roger;B.A. FN:Roger B.A. Klorese (rogerk@sychron.com) ORG:Sychron Inc. TITLE:Director of Marketing and Product Management TEL;WORK;VOICE:+1 (650) 9310707 TEL;CELL;VOICE:+1 (415) 8675615 TEL;WORK;FAX:+1 (415) 2762396 ADR;WORK;ENCODING=3DQUOTED-PRINTABLE:;;1900 South Norfolk Street=3D0D=3D0AS= uite 260;San Mateo;CA;94403;United States LABEL;WORK;ENCODING=3DQUOTED-PRINTABLE:1900 South Norfolk Street=3D0D=3D0AS= uite 260=3D0D=3D0ASan Mateo, CA 94403=3D0D=3D0AUnite=3D d States EMAIL;PREF;INTERNET:rogerk@sychron.com REV:20030102T200541Z END:VCARD ------=_NextPart_000_0171_01C2BD68.FA219AF0-- From majordomo-users-owner@greatcircle.com Thu Jan 16 19:06:34 2003 Received: from daniel.liston.nu (24-116-58-25.cpe.cableone.net [24.116.58.25]) by mycroft.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 82151196364 for ; Thu, 16 Jan 2003 19:06:30 -0800 (PST) Received: from sonny.org (daniel.liston.nu [192.168.1.65]) by daniel.liston.nu (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id h0H36Svg009034; Thu, 16 Jan 2003 21:06:29 -0600 Message-ID: <3E277448.8010104@sonny.org> Date: Thu, 16 Jan 2003 21:11:04 -0600 From: Daniel Liston User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.0; en-US; rv:1.0.2) Gecko/20021120 Netscape/7.01 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: brdraney@nersc.gov Cc: "'majordomo-users@greatcircle.com'" Subject: Re: Free Cleaning & Updating Plug-In For Majordomo References: <200301140206.SAA25109@postal.lbl.gov> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Archive-Number: 200301/94 X-Sequence-Number: 2594 I don't care who they are, who they claim to be, what they claim to be doing, or what organizations they are a member of. THEY SPAMMED US on this list to get their announcement out! Therefore, I do not trust them. Dan Liston brdraney@nersc.gov wrote: > I stand corrected and apologize for speaking off the cuff without info. > Brent > > >>This message is in MIME format. Since your mail reader does not understand >>this format, some or all of this message may not be legible. >> >>------_=_NextPart_001_01C2BDA4.1DA82440 >>Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" >> >>I would think that this is not a troller as http://www.freshaddress.com is >>linked directly from http://www.greatcircle.com/majordomo/ under related >>links. >> >>-----Original Message----- >>From: brdraney@nersc.gov [mailto:brdraney@nersc.gov] >>Sent: Thursday, January 16, 2003 2:57 PM >>To: majordomo-users@greatcircle.com >>Subject: Re: Free Cleaning & Updating Plug-In For Majordomo >> >> >>Sounds like an address troller. Anyone want to sign up their >>list members to a lifetime of spam? >> >>Brent >> >> >>>Hello- >>> >>>I wanted to draw to your attention a free plug-in for Majordomo offered by >> >>my company, FreshAddress, Inc. The program will compare your email list >>against our changed email address database, and provide: >> >>> o - updated email addresses >>> o - corrections for typos >>> o - corrections for system-wide domain changes >>> o - warnings on known bad or bouncing addresses >>> >>>For more information, check out: >>>http://freshaddress.com/majordomo >>> >>>Normally, we sell these services to our corporate clients, including EMS & >>>LL Bean. They are available for free to you because we are looking to >>>increase our throughput on smaller lists and get additional feedback so >> >>that >> >>>we may further develop our automated capabilities. >>> >>>Hope this is of interest to some of you! >>> >>>Regards, >>>Austin >>> >>>Austin C. Bliss >>>FreshAddress.com >>>austin@freshaddress.com >>> >>>_______________________________________________________ >>>The FREE service that prevents junk email http://www.mailshell.com >> >> >>------_=_NextPart_001_01C2BDA4.1DA82440 >>Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" >>Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable >> >> >> >> >>>1"> >> >>RE: Free Cleaning & Updating Plug-In For Majordomo >> >> >> >>

I would think that this is not a troller as >tp://www.freshaddress.com" TARGET=3D"_blank">http://www.freshaddress.com> >>>is linked directly from > >> TARGET=3D"_blank">http://www.greatcircle.com/majordomo/ under related = >>links.

>> >>

-----Original Message----- >>
From: brdraney@nersc.gov [>sc.gov">mailto:brdraney@nersc.gov] >>
Sent: Thursday, January 16, 2003 2:57 PM >>
To: majordomo-users@greatcircle.com >>
Subject: Re: Free Cleaning & Updating Plug-In For Ma= >>jordomo >>

>>
>> >>

Sounds like an address troller. Anyone want to sign= >> up their >>
list members to a lifetime of spam? >>

>> >>

Brent >>

>> >>

> Hello- >>
> >>
> I wanted to draw to your attention a free plug-in f= >>or Majordomo offered by my company, FreshAddress, Inc. The program wi= >>ll compare your email list against our changed email address database, and = >>provide:

>> >>

> >>
> o - updated email addresses >>
> o - corrections for typos >>
> o - corrections for system-wide domain change= >>s >>
> o - warnings on known bad or bouncing address= >>es >>
> >>
> For more information, check out: >>
> >T=3D"_blank">http://freshaddress.com/majordomo >>
> >>
> Normally, we sell these services to our corporate c= >>lients, including EMS & >>
> LL Bean. They are available for free to you b= >>ecause we are looking to >>
> increase our throughput on smaller lists and get ad= >>ditional feedback so that >>
> we may further develop our automated capabilities.<= >>/FONT> >>
> >>
> Hope this is of interest to some of you! >>
> >>
> Regards, >>
> Austin >>
> >>
> Austin C. Bliss >>
> FreshAddress.com >>
> austin@freshaddress.com >>
> >>
> ___________________________________________________= >>____ >>
> The FREE service that prevents junk email >=3D"http://www.mailshell.com" TARGET=3D"_blank">http://www.mailshell.com> >>> >> >>

>> >> >> >>------_=_NextPart_001_01C2BDA4.1DA82440-- > > From majordomo-users-owner@greatcircle.com Thu Jan 16 19:35:04 2003 Received: from sage-american.com (adsl-65-71-135-139.dsl.crchtx.swbell.net [65.71.135.139]) by mycroft.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1AE2E1965CC for ; Thu, 16 Jan 2003 19:35:01 -0800 (PST) Received: from sagea (sagea.sage-american [192.168.0.3]) by sage-american.com (8.12.6/8.12.6) with SMTP id h0H3YwJ7022962; Thu, 16 Jan 2003 21:34:59 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from jackstone@sage-one.net) Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.20030116213458.02d96d28@mail.sage-one.net> X-Sender: jackstone@mail.sage-one.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.5 (32) Date: Thu, 16 Jan 2003 21:34:58 -0600 To: Daniel Liston , brdraney@nersc.gov From: "Jack L. Stone" Subject: Re: Free Cleaning & Updating Plug-In For Majordomo Cc: "'majordomo-users@greatcircle.com'" In-Reply-To: <3E277448.8010104@sonny.org> References: <200301140206.SAA25109@postal.lbl.gov> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-0.6 required=4.5 tests=IN_REP_TO,MAILTO_LINK,MIME_NULL_BLOCK,QUOTED_EMAIL_TEXT, REFERENCES,SPAM_PHRASE_08_13 version=2.43-jlsrules1 X-Archive-Number: 200301/95 X-Sequence-Number: 2595 Not only that, but the replies allowed him to SPAM a reply. He must have been chortling over that opportunity to hit the list twice.... with the pitch and the URL. It was blatant, I agree. At 09:11 PM 1.16.2003 -0600, Daniel Liston wrote: >I don't care who they are, who they claim to be, what they claim to >be doing, or what organizations they are a member of. THEY SPAMMED >US on this list to get their announcement out! Therefore, I do not >trust them. > >Dan Liston > >brdraney@nersc.gov wrote: >> I stand corrected and apologize for speaking off the cuff without info. >> Brent >> >> >>>This message is in MIME format. Since your mail reader does not understand >>>this format, some or all of this message may not be legible. >>> >>>------_=_NextPart_001_01C2BDA4.1DA82440 >>>Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" >>> >>>I would think that this is not a troller as http://www.freshaddress.com is >>>linked directly from http://www.greatcircle.com/majordomo/ under related >>>links. >>> >>>-----Original Message----- >>>From: brdraney@nersc.gov [mailto:brdraney@nersc.gov] >>>Sent: Thursday, January 16, 2003 2:57 PM >>>To: majordomo-users@greatcircle.com >>>Subject: Re: Free Cleaning & Updating Plug-In For Majordomo >>> >>> >>>Sounds like an address troller. Anyone want to sign up their >>>list members to a lifetime of spam? >>> >>>Brent >>> >>> >>>>Hello- >>>> >>>>I wanted to draw to your attention a free plug-in for Majordomo offered by >>> >>>my company, FreshAddress, Inc. The program will compare your email list >>>against our changed email address database, and provide: >>> >>>> o - updated email addresses >>>> o - corrections for typos >>>> o - corrections for system-wide domain changes >>>> o - warnings on known bad or bouncing addresses >>>> >>>>For more information, check out: >>>>http://freshaddress.com/majordomo >>>> >>>>Normally, we sell these services to our corporate clients, including EMS & >>>>LL Bean. They are available for free to you because we are looking to >>>>increase our throughput on smaller lists and get additional feedback so >>> >>>that >>> >>>>we may further develop our automated capabilities. >>>> >>>>Hope this is of interest to some of you! >>>> >>>>Regards, >>>>Austin >>>> >>>>Austin C. Bliss >>>>FreshAddress.com >>>>austin@freshaddress.com >>>> >>>>_______________________________________________________ >>>>The FREE service that prevents junk email http://www.mailshell.com >>> >>> >>>------_=_NextPart_001_01C2BDA4.1DA82440 >>>Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" >>>Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable >>> >>> >>> >>> >>>>>1"> >>> >>>RE: Free Cleaning & Updating Plug-In For Majordomo >>> >>> >>> >>>

I would think that this is not a troller as >>tp://www.freshaddress.com" TARGET=3D"_blank">http://www.freshaddress.com>> >>>>is linked directly from >> >>> TARGET=3D"_blank">http://www.greatcircle.com/majordomo/ under related = >>>links.

>>> >>>

-----Original Message----- >>>
From: brdraney@nersc.gov [>>sc.gov">mailto:brdraney@nersc.gov] >>>
Sent: Thursday, January 16, 2003 2:57 PM >>>
To: majordomo-users@greatcircle.com >>>
Subject: Re: Free Cleaning & Updating Plug-In For Ma= >>>jordomo >>>

>>>
>>> >>>

Sounds like an address troller. Anyone want to sign= >>> up their >>>
list members to a lifetime of spam? >>>

>>> >>>

Brent >>>

>>> >>>

> Hello- >>>
> >>>
> I wanted to draw to your attention a free plug-in f= >>>or Majordomo offered by my company, FreshAddress, Inc. The program wi= >>>ll compare your email list against our changed email address database, and = >>>provide:

>>> >>>

> >>>
> o - updated email addresses >>>
> o - corrections for typos >>>
> o - corrections for system-wide domain change= >>>s >>>
> o - warnings on known bad or bouncing address= >>>es >>>
> >>>
> For more information, check out: >>>
> >>T=3D"_blank">http://freshaddress.com/majordomo >>>
> >>>
> Normally, we sell these services to our corporate c= >>>lients, including EMS & >>>
> LL Bean. They are available for free to you b= >>>ecause we are looking to >>>
> increase our throughput on smaller lists and get ad= >>>ditional feedback so that >>>
> we may further develop our automated capabilities.<= >>>/FONT> >>>
> >>>
> Hope this is of interest to some of you! >>>
> >>>
> Regards, >>>
> Austin >>>
> >>>
> Austin C. Bliss >>>
> FreshAddress.com >>>
> austin@freshaddress.com >>>
> >>>
> ___________________________________________________= >>>____ >>>
> The FREE service that prevents junk email >>=3D"http://www.mailshell.com" TARGET=3D"_blank">http://www.mailshell.com>> >>>> >>> >>>

tag is the simple solution. Alas, some clients send a paragraph all on one line, depending on the receiving client to word wrap it. The solution is to do the ssi include inside a FORM, in a text area, with wordwrap set to hard. THE FORM HAS NO ACTION OR SUBMIT BUTTON, the only element is the textarea. Of course, all fo this is done for you by TL with a few scripts. Would you like to see the result? http://www.tinylist.org/cgi-bin/TLmastermenu.py The only drawback is that this approach is not confidential, it's all RIGHT THERE ON DISPLAY and all the world can read it, email addresses included. AS it is not possible in advance to know what one may want to go back and check at a later time, it is neccarry to store everything, and so it does. Supressing email address display is a thought, but it would increase server burden A LOT to sort through the file each time it is accessed, if the archives.are popular. Miles Fidelman wrote: > On Mon, 20 Jan 2003, Bob Bish wrote: > > >>and/or how can a web archive be created for majordomo lists? >> > > > check out Wilma (ftp://ftp.hpc.uh.edu/pub/wilma/wilma.tgz) - it's a > collection of perl cgi scripts that glue together MhonArc (formats email > into HTML), Glimpse (a search engine) and some GUI code - putting it all > into a nice, easy to install, friendly to use archive tool > > > -- end Respectfully, Kirk D Bailey "Thou Art Free." - Eris From majordomo-users-owner@greatcircle.com Mon Jan 20 20:46:37 2003 Received: from planet.fef.com (unknown [166.90.172.7]) by mycroft.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3AE7A195AEB for ; Mon, 20 Jan 2003 20:46:35 -0800 (PST) Received: from planet.fef.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by planet.fef.com (8.12.7/8.12.7/check_local-5) with ESMTP id h0L4kTAS006828; Mon, 20 Jan 2003 20:46:29 -0800 Received: (from alvin@localhost) by planet.fef.com (8.12.7/8.12.4/Submit) id h0L4kTGO006827; Mon, 20 Jan 2003 20:46:29 -0800 From: Alvin Oga Message-Id: <200301210446.h0L4kTGO006827@planet.fef.com> Subject: Re: web archive - more To: bobbish@earthlink.net (Bob Bish) Date: Mon, 20 Jan 2003 20:46:29 -0800 (PST) Cc: Majordomo-Users@greatcircle.com In-Reply-To: <5.2.0.9.2.20030120201329.00b8b220@pop.earthlink.net> from "Bob Bish" at Jan 20, 2003 08:14:21 PM X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.5 PL1] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Archive-Number: 200301/137 X-Sequence-Number: 2637 > Bob Bish wrote: > > At 07:29 PM 1/20/2003, John Sechrest wrote: > > >Yes, you can configure majordomo to do archiving. > > > >It uses a tool called Mhonarc, which you can find at: > > > >http://www.oac.uci.edu/indiv/ehood/mhonarc.html > > > At 07:48 PM 1/20/2003, Miles Fidelman wrote: > > >check out Wilma (ftp://ftp.hpc.uh.edu/pub/wilma/wilma.tgz) - it's a > >collection of perl cgi scripts that glue together MhonArc (formats email > >into HTML), Glimpse (a search engine) and some GUI code - putting it all > >into a nice, easy to install, friendly to use archive tool > > These definitely point us in the right direction. Many thanks. and to spawn yoou off into many different directions... the rest of um http://www.Linux-Consulting.com/Majordomo/Majordomo.Utilities.txt c ya alvin From majordomo-users-owner@greatcircle.com Mon Jan 20 21:25:45 2003 Received: from mind-sights.com (s254.n12.vds2000.com [66.84.12.254]) by mycroft.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 521E4195A51 for ; Mon, 20 Jan 2003 21:25:43 -0800 (PST) Received: from lanadm04 ([202.169.34.58]) by mind-sights.com (8.12.5/8.11.2) with SMTP id h0L5PdS5005413 for ; Tue, 21 Jan 2003 00:25:39 -0500 Message-ID: <003401c2c10d$d947eb60$0701a8c0@lanadm04> From: "Andreas" To: Subject: include text in the "subject" of the list Date: Tue, 21 Jan 2003 12:25:14 +0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 X-Archive-Number: 200301/138 X-Sequence-Number: 2638 Hi, I need to include a text in the "subject" of my majordomo list. Can anybody help? which file to look/update and which line? I'm just a beginner..... thanks in advance Andreas From majordomo-users-owner@greatcircle.com Mon Jan 20 21:34:08 2003 Received: from swan.mail.pas.earthlink.net (swan.mail.pas.earthlink.net [207.217.120.123]) by mycroft.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5CA38195A28 for ; Mon, 20 Jan 2003 21:34:07 -0800 (PST) Received: from h-66-167-135-83.phndaz91.covad.net ([66.167.135.83] helo=Vaio.earthlink.net) by swan.mail.pas.earthlink.net with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #1) id 18ar2z-0000MR-00; Mon, 20 Jan 2003 21:34:05 -0800 Message-Id: <5.2.0.9.2.20030120223308.00bb1e18@pop.earthlink.net> X-Sender: bobbish@pop.earthlink.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.0.9 Date: Mon, 20 Jan 2003 22:34:07 -0700 To: "Andreas" , From: Bob Bish Subject: Re: include text in the "subject" of the list In-Reply-To: <003401c2c10d$d947eb60$0701a8c0@lanadm04> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed X-Archive-Number: 200301/139 X-Sequence-Number: 2639 At 10:25 PM 1/20/2003, Andreas wrote: >Hi, > >I need to include a text in the "subject" of my majordomo list. Can anybody >help? which file to look/update and which line? I'm just a beginner..... In the config file, find the line: subject_prefix = Whatever you put after the equals sign (=) will precede whatever subject the sender uses. ...Bob From majordomo-users-owner@greatcircle.com Mon Jan 20 22:56:16 2003 Received: from daniel.liston.nu (24-116-58-25.cpe.cableone.net [24.116.58.25]) by mycroft.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id AADDE195A7A for ; Mon, 20 Jan 2003 22:56:13 -0800 (PST) Received: from sonny.org (daniel.liston.nu [192.168.1.65]) by daniel.liston.nu (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id h0L6uBvg031099; Tue, 21 Jan 2003 00:56:12 -0600 Message-ID: <3E2CF026.8000709@sonny.org> Date: Tue, 21 Jan 2003 01:00:54 -0600 From: Daniel Liston User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.0; en-US; rv:1.0.2) Gecko/20021120 Netscape/7.01 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Stonix Cc: Majordomo-users Subject: Re: why confirmation email goes to list-owner? References: <00ff01c2c0d0$42da5290$0105050a@pony> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Archive-Number: 200301/140 X-Sequence-Number: 2640 Let me know if this helps. http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?l=majordomo-users&m=98343219115606&w=2 Dan Liston Stonix wrote: > My majordomo had been working well until yesterday I reconfigured > it to be able to host multiple lists based on different domains. It works > well for post and dilivery posts. But it is abnormal for subscription. > When the majordomo received a subscription message it won't send > the confirmation to the subscriber as supposed, instead it send it to > the list-owner. > > Here is my configuration related to approval: > > 1. In the virtusertable file, I added > list-approval@domain.com majordomo-domain > > 2. In the aliases file, I added > list-approval: user > > If I remove list-approval from aliases, nothing changed. If I remove > list-approval from virtusertable, the confirmation message will be > sent to catch-all account. Please help me how to fix the issue. Thanks > in advance! > > Alex From majordomo-users-owner@greatcircle.com Tue Jan 21 11:19:59 2003 Received: from delivery.infowest.com (delivery.infowest.com [204.17.177.5]) by mycroft.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 29945195B61 for ; Tue, 21 Jan 2003 11:19:58 -0800 (PST) Received: from Presarionb (216-190-26-165.dsl.infowest.net [216.190.26.165]) by delivery.infowest.com (Postfix) with SMTP id C68B5E3D158; Tue, 21 Jan 2003 12:19:52 -0700 (MST) From: Lorin Lund To: Daniel Liston , "Steven W. Orr" Cc: Majordomo-users Date: Wed, 22 Jan 2003 12:13:09 -0700 X-Priority: 3 (Normal) In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Subject: Re: Goodguys and badguys. MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" X-Mailer: Opera 6.05 build 1140 X-Archive-Number: 200301/141 X-Sequence-Number: 2641 >=> >=>chown majordomo.majordomo mjx.pl >=>chmod 4750 mjx.pl > >Yeah yeah, but it won't run. Perl is pretty persnickity about suid >scripts unless they pass the taint tests. That's that part I don't >understand. > Of late there has been some sentiment that setuid scripts are too much of a security risk so there have been some moves to prevent any setuid script from working. That is where wrappers come in. A binary program can be setuid and it can in turn execute a script which will inherit the uid. 'sudo' is a generic wrapper. I've never used it but I understand that configuring it can be pretty difficult because it is intended to preserve a reasonable degree of security. You might be able to use the 'wrapper' program that comes with majordomo. From majordomo-users-owner@greatcircle.com Tue Jan 21 11:35:47 2003 Received: from delivery.infowest.com (delivery.infowest.com [204.17.177.5]) by mycroft.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D4A36195B61 for ; Tue, 21 Jan 2003 11:35:45 -0800 (PST) Received: from Presarionb (216-190-26-165.dsl.infowest.net [216.190.26.165]) by delivery.infowest.com (Postfix) with SMTP id 195BEE3A466 for ; Tue, 21 Jan 2003 12:35:45 -0700 (MST) From: Lorin Lund To: Majordomo-users Date: Wed, 22 Jan 2003 12:29:02 -0700 X-Priority: 3 (Normal) In-Reply-To: <3E2CF026.8000709@sonny.org> Message-Id: Subject: Programs in aliases - mine won't work. MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" X-Mailer: Opera 6.05 build 1140 X-Archive-Number: 200301/142 X-Sequence-Number: 2642 I have majordomo 1.94.5 set up and running on FreeBSD 4.7 . I don't know what version of Sendmail comes with FreeBSD 4.7. I'm sure it is pretty current. I am trying to learn how to stick a filtering progam into the system to suppress outgoing mail on certain criteria. I see in the FAQ an example of putting bulkmailer as an alias on list-outgoing. I tried doing something like that and got no results. Then I tried using wrapper (as you can see below) and still got no results. I'm assuming that data will be passed to my program on stdin. My program simply logs the command line and stdin to a log file for me to study. The log file did not get created. Does anyone have any suggestions for me? -rwxr-xr-x 1 majordom majordom 30164 Jan 9 17:11 resend -rwxr-xr-x 1 majordom majordom 72 Jan 21 11:15 test2 # Lorin's test list # owner-bbc:mjdmolund owner-bbc-outgoing:owner-bbc bbc-approval:owner-bbc bbc: "|/usr/local/majordomo/wrapper resend -l bbc -h winbsd.us bbc-outgoing" bbc-outgoing:"|/usr/local/majordomo/wrapper test2 bbc", "|/usr/local/majordomo/wrapper archive -a -m -f /usr/local/majordomo/lists/bbc.archive/bbc.archive" bbc-request: "|/usr/local/majordomo/wrapper majordomo -l bbc" From majordomo-users-owner@greatcircle.com Tue Jan 21 17:28:23 2003 Received: from daniel.liston.nu (24-116-58-25.cpe.cableone.net [24.116.58.25]) by mycroft.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 618E11960BD for ; Tue, 21 Jan 2003 17:28:22 -0800 (PST) Received: from sonny.org (daniel.liston.nu [192.168.1.65]) by daniel.liston.nu (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id h0M1SKvg003892; Tue, 21 Jan 2003 19:28:21 -0600 Message-ID: <3E2DF4D0.3080002@sonny.org> Date: Tue, 21 Jan 2003 19:33:04 -0600 From: Daniel Liston User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.0; en-US; rv:1.0.2) Gecko/20021120 Netscape/7.01 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Lorin Lund Cc: Majordomo-users Subject: Re: Programs in aliases - mine won't work. References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Archive-Number: 200301/143 X-Sequence-Number: 2643 Why not use the built in majordomo capabilities of taboo_headers and/or taboo_body? Or just moderate the list? Dan Liston Lorin Lund wrote: > I am trying to learn how to stick a filtering progam into the system > to suppress outgoing mail on certain criteria. I see in the > FAQ an example of putting bulkmailer as an alias on list-outgoing. From majordomo-users-owner@greatcircle.com Wed Jan 22 10:15:52 2003 Received: from smtp.atl.cbeyond.com (smtp.atl.cbeyond.com [64.238.96.29]) by mycroft.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0A199195A20 for

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I saw a message go through one of my lists last week - it bounced back=20 because the mailserver at the receiving end was in a loop - and each time= =20 through the loop, the number of headers increased - finally it reached a=20 limit and the message came back to me. Frank At 12:10 PM 1/23/03, Rodrigo Ordo=F1ez Licona wrote: >Hi, > >I am receiving email bounces for headers bigger than 1024 Bytes, How can I= =20 >increase this limit? > >What are the disadvantages? > >regards > >Rodrigo O > >-------------------------------------------------------------------------- >Ing. Rodrigo Ordo=F1ez Licona >Xnet Soluciones en Comercio Electr=F3nico >Chihuahua, Chihuahua. Mexico >Priv de Reforma 103 Local 5 >Col. San Felipe Viejo. CP 31240. >Tel. 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Any other use of the email by you is prohibited. > > From majordomo-users-owner@greatcircle.com Thu Jan 23 10:11:57 2003 Received: from mailhost.intrinsity.com (gw.intrinsity.com [208.246.32.130]) by mycroft.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6888F195F49 for ; Thu, 23 Jan 2003 10:11:54 -0800 (PST) Received: from victoria.eng.evsx.com (victoria.eng.evsx.com [192.168.1.29]) by mailhost.intrinsity.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 93B733F3A6 for ; Thu, 23 Jan 2003 12:11:50 -0600 (CST) Received: from kodiak.eng.intrinsity.com (kodiak.eng.intrinsity.com [192.168.1.85]) by victoria.eng.evsx.com (8.10.1/8.10.1) with ESMTP id h0NIBo005624 for ; Thu, 23 Jan 2003 12:11:50 -0600 (CST) Date: Thu, 23 Jan 2003 12:11:50 -0600 (CST) From: Elizabeth Leight X-X-Sender: To: Subject: listing/viewing archives? Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Archive-Number: 200301/153 X-Sequence-Number: 2653 Hello, I've just recently setup majordomo at our site. We have some lists going. Folks can post to them just fine. I've setup the mailing list aliases to include archive2.pl to archive on a by-month basis. These files appear to be created correctly. However, how do users list and access the available archives? Sending the "index list-name" command to majordomo gets a no files available response. Thanks so much, Elizabeth From majordomo-users-owner@greatcircle.com Thu Jan 23 12:19:42 2003 Received: from mailhost.intrinsity.com (gw.intrinsity.com [208.246.32.130]) by mycroft.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 69AF01961A9 for ; Thu, 23 Jan 2003 12:19:41 -0800 (PST) Received: from victoria.eng.evsx.com (victoria.eng.evsx.com [192.168.1.29]) by mailhost.intrinsity.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A8E2F3F3A6 for ; Thu, 23 Jan 2003 14:19:40 -0600 (CST) Received: from kodiak.eng.intrinsity.com (kodiak.eng.intrinsity.com [192.168.1.85]) by victoria.eng.evsx.com (8.10.1/8.10.1) with ESMTP id h0NKJe009890 for ; Thu, 23 Jan 2003 14:19:40 -0600 (CST) Date: Thu, 23 Jan 2003 14:19:40 -0600 (CST) From: Elizabeth Leight X-X-Sender: To: Subject: Re: listing/viewing archives? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Archive-Number: 200301/154 X-Sequence-Number: 2654 Nevermind, Comparing majordomo with majordomo.cf, I found that I had not put the archive files a level down, ie, I had them created at ~majordomo/archives/., not ~majordomo/archives//. On Thu, 23 Jan 2003, Elizabeth Leight wrote: > Hello, > > I've just recently setup majordomo at our site. We have some > lists going. Folks can post to them just fine. I've setup > the mailing list aliases to include archive2.pl to archive on > a by-month basis. These files appear to be created correctly. > > However, how do users list and access the available archives? > > Sending the "index list-name" command to majordomo gets a > no files available response. > > Thanks so much, > > Elizabeth > > From majordomo-users-owner@greatcircle.com Thu Jan 23 12:39:53 2003 Received: from smtp.atl.cbeyond.com (smtp.atl.cbeyond.com [64.238.96.29]) by mycroft.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id DB74F195B60 for ; Thu, 23 Jan 2003 12:39:49 -0800 (PST) Received: from [64.238.96.20] (HELO mail.atl.cbeyond.com) by smtp.atl.cbeyond.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.0.5) with ESMTP id 19990626 for majordomo-Users@greatcircle.com; Thu, 23 Jan 2003 15:39:49 -0500 Received: from [66.180.104.125] (HELO michael) by mail.atl.cbeyond.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.0.5) with ESMTP id 20599866 for majordomo-Users@greatcircle.com; Thu, 23 Jan 2003 15:39:19 -0500 From: "Michael Thompson" Organization: Publisher's Forum To: majordomo-Users@greatcircle.com Date: Thu, 23 Jan 2003 13:39:18 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: Bounce Email Reply-To: mthompson@resourcenter.com Message-ID: <3E2FF086.21907.F14824E@localhost> In-reply-to: <5.1.1.6.0.20030123124939.00acd7f0@pop6.sympatico.ca> References: X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (v4.02) Content-type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: Quoted-printable Content-description: Mail message body X-Archive-Number: 200301/155 X-Sequence-Number: 2655 You may be right, though there is a MAXLENGTH setting in the config. On mine, it measures in characters, and I have it set at 4000. It also acts as the upper limit for accumulation before creating a digest. As for the disadvantages of increasing the limit, I can think of several. Plain text e-mail rarely produces significant file sizes. A bigger size usually indicates either multi-part MIME or attachments, both of which are bad on mailing lists. And, as Frank points out below, the limit can kill a bounce loop. On 23 Jan 2003 at 12:52, Frank Bax wrote about "Re: Bounce Email": > I'm thinking the limit is at the other end, which means you can't > increase the limit? > > I saw a message go through one of my lists last week - it bounced back > because the mailserver at the receiving end was in a loop - and each > time through the loop, the number of headers increased - finally it > reached a limit and the message came back to me. > > Frank > > > At 12:10 PM 1/23/03, Rodrigo Ordo=F1ez Licona wrote: > > >Hi, > > > >I am receiving email bounces for headers bigger than 1024 Bytes, How > >can I increase this limit? > > > >What are the disadvantages? > > > >regards > > > >Rodrigo O > > > >--------------------------------------------------------------------- > >----- Ing. Rodrigo Ordo=F1ez Licona Xnet Soluciones en Comercio > >Electr=F3nico Chihuahua, Chihuahua. Mexico Priv de Reforma 103 Local 5 > >Col. San Felipe Viejo. CP 31240. Tel. (614)414-9270 Correo de Voz > >(614)443-0443 ventas@xnet.com.mx > > > >PO Box 25034 > >Washington DC, USA. 20007 > >Tel 202-907-5577 > >Fax 202-318-2594 > >sales@pwworks.com > > > >PO BOX 41717 > >Abu Dhabi, United Arab Emirates. > >Tel (+50) 444-7217 > >Fax (+2) 665-7198 > >sales@emiratesww.com > >--------------------------------------------------------------------- > >----- > > > >This message is for the designated recipient only and may contain > >privileged, proprietary, or otherwise private information. If you > >have received it in error, please notify the sender immediately and > >delete the original. Any other use of the email by you is prohibited. > > > > > -- We will not forget! http://www.remember-9-11.com http://www.ciarancummings.com From majordomo-users-owner@greatcircle.com Thu Jan 23 19:23:01 2003 Received: from mind-sights.com (s254.n12.vds2000.com [66.84.12.254]) by mycroft.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 82A49195FB5 for ; Thu, 23 Jan 2003 19:22:58 -0800 (PST) Received: from lanadm04 ([202.169.34.58]) by mind-sights.com (8.12.5/8.11.2) with SMTP id h0O3MsAb002512 for ; Thu, 23 Jan 2003 22:22:55 -0500 Message-ID: <007901c2c358$31a1f070$0701a8c0@lanadm04> From: "Andreas" To: Subject: Bounce Admin request of type Date: Fri, 24 Jan 2003 10:24:50 +0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 X-Archive-Number: 200301/156 X-Sequence-Number: 2656 Hi, I've two majordomo mailing list running at the moment and just few days ago I changed the "list-config file" to include word on the subject and that seems to work just fine. But now I'm receiving two bounce messages as per below: ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Thursday, January 23, 2003 2:48 PM Subject: BOUNCE peduli-autis@puterakembara.org: Admin request of type /\bsubscribe\b/i at line 9 Any idea why is this happening and how to fix this. Is this related to "Administrivia" setting to "yes" in t he "list-config" file ? Thanks in Advance, Andreas From majordomo-users-owner@greatcircle.com Thu Jan 23 21:07:39 2003 Received: from cloud.ccsf.cc.ca.us (cloud.ccsf.cc.ca.us [147.144.1.212]) by mycroft.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 83122195FB5 for