From majordomo-users-owner@greatcircle.com Tue Jul 1 10:58:39 2003 Received: from academic2.csuohio.edu (academic2.csuohio.edu [137.148.49.45]) by mycroft.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 13E52196513 for ; Tue, 1 Jul 2003 10:58:38 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from cwood@localhost) by academic2.csuohio.edu (8.11.7+Sun/8.10.1) id h61Hw7217854; Tue, 1 Jul 2003 13:58:07 -0400 (EDT) Date: Tue, 1 Jul 2003 13:58:07 -0400 (EDT) From: cwood@academic2.csuohio.edu Message-Id: <200307011758.h61Hw7217854@academic2.csuohio.edu> To: Majordomo.Admin@gems1.gov.bc.ca, dliston@sonny.org Cc: majordomo-users@greatcircle.com Subject: Re: XP / Outlook 2002 problem X-Archive-Number: 200307/1 X-Sequence-Number: 3431 In Outlook you can specify how particular recipients recieve email. When you open a Contact, check the box that says "send email in plain text". That way, your list owner can send emails by default in rich text/html, but messages sent to the list (he needs to have a contact entry for the list) will be sent in plain text. Chris Wood From majordomo-users-owner@greatcircle.com Tue Jul 1 14:46:48 2003 Received: from mail-svr1.cs.utah.edu (brahma.cs.utah.edu [155.99.198.200]) by mycroft.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3AF5B196535 for ; Tue, 1 Jul 2003 14:46:26 -0700 (PDT) Received: from vitesse.cs.utah.edu (vitesse.cs.utah.edu [155.99.197.71]) by mail-svr1.cs.utah.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 735D134773 for ; Tue, 1 Jul 2003 15:46:25 -0600 (MDT) Received: by vitesse.cs.utah.edu (Postfix, from userid 124) id 55D7A11853B; Tue, 1 Jul 2003 15:46:25 -0600 (MDT) From: "Mark J. Bradakis" To: majordomo-users@greatcircle.com Subject: Indexing indices? Message-Id: <20030701214625.55D7A11853B@vitesse.cs.utah.edu> Date: Tue, 1 Jul 2003 15:46:25 -0600 (MDT) X-Archive-Number: 200307/2 X-Sequence-Number: 3432 This isn't really a majordomo question, though I'm hoping someone here may have some useful information. Basically I have several dozen mailing lists, with searchable archives done using wilma. Right now each list archive is independent of the others. One thing I've been wanting to do is have the ability to search for a term from all the lists, or at least a subset. So one wouldn't have to do a search on, say, 'brake fluid' in triumphs and then in mgs and then in autox and so on. Has anyone combined glimpse indices in such a manner? Glimpse man pages don't seem to have any information about multiple indices. mjb. From majordomo-users-owner@greatcircle.com Wed Jul 2 05:13:30 2003 Received: from eagle.netwrx1.com (unknown [156.46.225.18]) by mycroft.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C0379196597 for ; Wed, 2 Jul 2003 05:13:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: from notebook1.netwrx1.com ([156.46.225.19]) by eagle.netwrx1.com with smtp (Exim 3.36 #1) id 19XgU1-00015p-00 for majordomo-users@greatcircle.com; Wed, 02 Jul 2003 07:13:09 -0500 From: George Kasica To: majordomo-users@greatcircle.com Subject: (fwd) RE: Anyone use FreshAddress? Date: Wed, 02 Jul 2003 07:13:09 -0500 Organization: Netwrx Consulting Inc. Reply-To: georgek@netwrx1.com Message-ID: <21j5gv8jnd4n58paov29ugotvsckjo7a51@4ax.com> X-Mailer: Forte Agent 1.93/32.576 English (American) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Scanner: exiscan *19XgU1-00015p-00*veqtIrxjwJc* (Netwrx Consulting Inc., Jackson, WI USA) X-Archive-Number: 200307/3 X-Sequence-Number: 3433 On Tue, 1 Jul 2003 17:05:15 -0400, "Austin C. Bliss" wrote: >George- > >I understand your frustration, as we were having a lot of frustration with >the free majordomo plug-in too... the code had been written by one of our >outside partners, and they were slow to offer support. Meanwhile, our >technical people knew little about majordomo, and thus we were unable to >offer any direct assistance. > >Ultimately, we decided to remove the free plug-in offer from our website & >pull the service from our product line. FreshAddress, Inc. services >hundreds of happy clients with large email lists, but we'll have to continue >the search for products to allow smaller companies such as yours to take >advantage of our "Build & Update Your Email List" services. > >Thanks for giving the service a whirl, and I apologize again for your >negative experience. If you'd like, you can feel free to post any of this >to the majordomo list, or contact me for any questions. > >Regards, >Austin > >Austin Bliss >President >austin@freshaddress.com >http://freshaddress.com/biz > > >> >-----Original Message----- >> >From: George Kasica >> >Sent: Wednesday, June 11, 2003 9:07 AM >> >To: Jason Jacobs >> >Cc: majordomo-users@greatcircle.com >> >Subject: Re: Anyone use FreshAddress? >> > >> > >> >>On Tue, 10 Jun 2003 17:00:03 -0400, you wrote: >> > >> >>I'm just curious if anyone is using this product and how well you're >> >satisfied with it. >> >> >> >>-j >> >Tried it, got tons of user complaints about privacy and why I "sold" >> >their addresses, plus it didn't work here after MONTHS of trying and >> >support was very slow...days between a question and wrong answer. I'd >> >avoid it. >> >--------------------------------------- >> >Don't you agree that it's worth every dollar you paid for it? >> >> Carl: >> >> I hope you're being funny, because it cost us a great deal of time and >> as a result money here to mess with this program, not to mention the >> customer complaints that resulted from it. >> >> Free or not, when a company is selling or providing a product and I >> have a signed contract for support etc. I expect it to be at least >> marginally honored. They wren't even close. >> >> I get more support for truly FREE and Open majordomo than I did for >> this. >> >> George >> >> ===[George R. Kasica]=== +1 262 677 0766 >> President +1 206 374 6482 FAX >> Netwrx Consulting Inc. Jackson, WI USA >> http://www.netwrx1.com >> georgek@netwrx1.com >> ICQ #12862186 >> > From majordomo-users-owner@greatcircle.com Wed Jul 2 09:51:58 2003 Received: from franklin-belle.com (adsl-65-68-247-73.dsl.crchtx.swbell.net [65.68.247.73]) by mycroft.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 16908196831 for ; Wed, 2 Jul 2003 09:51:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: from sagea (sagea.sage-american [10.0.0.3]) by franklin-belle.com (8.12.8p1/8.12.8) with SMTP id h62Gprrv038860 for ; Wed, 2 Jul 2003 11:51:55 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from jackstone@sage-one.net) Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.20030702115157.013c6cb0@sage-one.net> X-Sender: jackstone@sage-one.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.5 (32) Date: Wed, 02 Jul 2003 11:51:57 -0500 To: majordomo-users@greatcircle.com From: "Jack L. Stone" Subject: Majordomo & Demime Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-0.7 required=4.5 tests=AWL version=2.54-fbelle.rules_v1 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.54-fbelle.rules_v1 (1.174.2.17-2003-05-11-exp) X-Archive-Number: 200307/4 X-Sequence-Number: 3434 Dear list: Please forgive me for asking about a subject that may have an answer in the archives, but I have been unable to locate a posting there that applies exactly to my own situation, nor does the Demime website instructions for using Demime. It seems most applies to Linux and I am running FBSD.4.8 (Unix). At least I remain unsure. I am also running Sendmail.8.12.8, SpamAssassin & Procmail & Majordomo.1.94.5. As you might guess, I have to spend way too much time dealing with bounces because of HTML (especially AOL's tack-ons) and attachments. I have several mail lists running on various Vhosts. Finally, I have installed Demime-1.1c, but remained unclear about the proper modification to the Aliases for each mail list. Again, the only examples I see are for Linux, although I suspect the setup is a similar one. However, before messing up things, I would like some tips from anyone running a similar configration. Here is a test alias setup as an example. Would someone please advise which line to modify/add for use of Demime which reside in: /usr/local/bin/demime ...and NOT with the ../majordomo/wrapper I'm proving this link rather than clog up this message with long lines. http://www.franklin-belle.com/tmp/fblist.txt Thanks in advance. Best regards, Jack L. Stone, Administrator SageOne Net http://www.sage-one.net jackstone@sage-one.net From majordomo-users-owner@greatcircle.com Wed Jul 2 10:17:35 2003 Received: from wrenkasky.com (esson.net [216.102.129.43]) by mycroft.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4C4481967A6 for ; Wed, 2 Jul 2003 10:17:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ekasky.wrenkasky.com (ekasky.priority.usc.edu [128.125.63.168]) by wrenkasky.com (8.12.9/8.12.9) with ESMTP id h62HHa2F024949 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NOT); Wed, 2 Jul 2003 10:17:37 -0700 Message-Id: <5.1.1.6.2.20030702100903.00b05ad8@mail.esson.net> X-Sender: ed@mail.esson.net (Unverified) X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1.1 Date: Wed, 02 Jul 2003 10:17:32 -0700 To: "Jack L. Stone" From: Ed Kasky Subject: Re: Majordomo & Demime Cc: majordomo-users@greatcircle.com In-Reply-To: <3.0.5.32.20030702115157.013c6cb0@sage-one.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed X-Archive-Number: 200307/5 X-Sequence-Number: 3435 If you are employing smrsh with sendmail, you need to first modify demime in the following manner: $::MAJIC_PIPE_PREFIX_CHAR = '=='; # $::MAJIC_PIPE_PREFIX_CHAR = '|'; $::junkmail_file = "/your/path/to/demime_junkmail.cf"; A typical alias would then look like this: franklin-belle.com-fblist: "|/usr/local/bin/demime '== /usr/local/majordomo/wrapper resend -C /usr/local/majordomo/franklin-belle.com/majordomo.cf -l fblist -h franklin-belle.com franklin-belle.com-fblist-outgoing,nobody'" HTH - Ed At 11:51 AM Wednesday, 7/2/2003, Jack wrote -=> >Finally, I have installed Demime-1.1c, but remained unclear about the >proper modification to the Aliases for each mail list. Again, the only >examples I see are for Linux, although I suspect the setup is a similar >one. However, before messing up things, I would like some tips from anyone >running a similar configration. Here is a test alias setup as an example. >Would someone please advise which line to modify/add for use of Demime >which reside in: >/usr/local/bin/demime >...and NOT with the ../majordomo/wrapper From majordomo-users-owner@greatcircle.com Wed Jul 2 10:25:58 2003 Received: from franklin-belle.com (adsl-65-68-247-73.dsl.crchtx.swbell.net [65.68.247.73]) by mycroft.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7ACEA196C2E for ; Wed, 2 Jul 2003 10:25:55 -0700 (PDT) Received: from sagea (sagea.sage-american [10.0.0.3]) by franklin-belle.com (8.12.8p1/8.12.8) with SMTP id h62HPrrv039180; Wed, 2 Jul 2003 12:25:54 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from jackstone@sage-one.net) Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.20030702122551.013ca0f0@sage-one.net> X-Sender: jackstone@sage-one.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.5 (32) Date: Wed, 02 Jul 2003 12:25:51 -0500 To: Ed Kasky From: "Jack L. Stone" Subject: Re: Majordomo & Demime Cc: majordomo-users@greatcircle.com In-Reply-To: <5.1.1.6.2.20030702100903.00b05ad8@mail.esson.net> References: <3.0.5.32.20030702115157.013c6cb0@sage-one.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-1.6 required=4.5 tests=AWL,EMAIL_ATTRIBUTION,IN_REP_TO,REFERENCES, REPLY_WITH_QUOTES version=2.54-fbelle.rules_v1 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.54-fbelle.rules_v1 (1.174.2.17-2003-05-11-exp) X-Archive-Number: 200307/6 X-Sequence-Number: 3436 Ooops! Sorry, I should have said I am not using smrsh.... At 10:17 AM 7.2.2003 -0700, Ed Kasky wrote: >If you are employing smrsh with sendmail, you need to first modify demime >in the following manner: >$::MAJIC_PIPE_PREFIX_CHAR = '=='; ># $::MAJIC_PIPE_PREFIX_CHAR = '|'; >$::junkmail_file = "/your/path/to/demime_junkmail.cf"; > >A typical alias would then look like this: >franklin-belle.com-fblist: "|/usr/local/bin/demime '== >/usr/local/majordomo/wrapper resend -C >/usr/local/majordomo/franklin-belle.com/majordomo.cf -l fblist -h >franklin-belle.com franklin-belle.com-fblist-outgoing,nobody'" > >HTH - > >Ed > >At 11:51 AM Wednesday, 7/2/2003, Jack wrote -=> >>Finally, I have installed Demime-1.1c, but remained unclear about the >>proper modification to the Aliases for each mail list. Again, the only >>examples I see are for Linux, although I suspect the setup is a similar >>one. However, before messing up things, I would like some tips from anyone >>running a similar configration. Here is a test alias setup as an example. >>Would someone please advise which line to modify/add for use of Demime >>which reside in: >>/usr/local/bin/demime >>...and NOT with the ../majordomo/wrapper > > Best regards, Jack L. Stone, Administrator SageOne Net http://www.sage-one.net jackstone@sage-one.net From majordomo-users-owner@greatcircle.com Wed Jul 2 10:44:39 2003 Received: from wrenkasky.com (esson.net [216.102.129.43]) by mycroft.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 354C51968E9 for ; Wed, 2 Jul 2003 10:44:35 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ekasky.wrenkasky.com (ekasky.priority.usc.edu [128.125.63.168]) by wrenkasky.com (8.12.9/8.12.9) with ESMTP id h62HiY2F026759 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NOT); Wed, 2 Jul 2003 10:44:35 -0700 Message-Id: <5.1.1.6.2.20030702104229.00ac1240@mail.esson.net> X-Sender: ed@mail.esson.net (Unverified) X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1.1 Date: Wed, 02 Jul 2003 10:44:30 -0700 To: "Jack L. Stone" , Ed Kasky From: Ed Kasky Subject: Re: Majordomo & Demime Cc: majordomo-users@greatcircle.com In-Reply-To: <3.0.5.32.20030702122551.013ca0f0@sage-one.net> References: <5.1.1.6.2.20030702100903.00b05ad8@mail.esson.net> <3.0.5.32.20030702115157.013c6cb0@sage-one.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed X-Archive-Number: 200307/7 X-Sequence-Number: 3437 Then leave the PREFIX_CHAR = '|' enabled and make the adjustment in the aliases and test it out... At 12:25 PM Wednesday, 7/2/2003, Jack L. Stone wrote -=> >Ooops! Sorry, I should have said I am not using smrsh.... > >At 10:17 AM 7.2.2003 -0700, Ed Kasky wrote: > >If you are employing smrsh with sendmail, you need to first modify demime > >in the following manner: > >$::MAJIC_PIPE_PREFIX_CHAR = '=='; > ># $::MAJIC_PIPE_PREFIX_CHAR = '|'; > >$::junkmail_file = "/your/path/to/demime_junkmail.cf"; > > > >A typical alias would then look like this: > >franklin-belle.com-fblist: "|/usr/local/bin/demime '== > >/usr/local/majordomo/wrapper resend -C > >/usr/local/majordomo/franklin-belle.com/majordomo.cf -l fblist -h > >franklin-belle.com franklin-belle.com-fblist-outgoing,nobody'" > > > >HTH - > > > >Ed > > > >At 11:51 AM Wednesday, 7/2/2003, Jack wrote -=> > >>Finally, I have installed Demime-1.1c, but remained unclear about the > >>proper modification to the Aliases for each mail list. Again, the only > >>examples I see are for Linux, although I suspect the setup is a similar > >>one. However, before messing up things, I would like some tips from anyone > >>running a similar configration. Here is a test alias setup as an example. > >>Would someone please advise which line to modify/add for use of Demime > >>which reside in: > >>/usr/local/bin/demime > >>...and NOT with the ../majordomo/wrapper Ed Kasky Los Angeles, CA . . . . . . . . If love isn't taught in the home it's difficult to learn anywhere else.... From majordomo-users-owner@greatcircle.com Wed Jul 2 14:15:08 2003 Received: from scanmail1.cableone.net (scanmail1.cableone.net [24.116.0.121]) by mycroft.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id BFAB5196894 for ; Wed, 2 Jul 2003 14:15:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: from scanmail1.cableone.net ([10.116.0.121]) by scanmail1.cableone.net with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1877.687.68); Wed, 2 Jul 2003 14:14:47 -0700 Received: from scanmail1.cableone.net [24.116.0.121] by scanmail1.cableone.net (SMTPD32-7.04) id AB287E2F0236; Wed, 02 Jul 2003 14:14:16 -0700 Received: from sonny.com (24-116-58-25.cpe.cableone.net [24.116.58.25]) by mail.cableone.net with SMTP (MailShield v2.04 - WIN32 Jul 17 2001 17:12:42); Wed, 02 Jul 2003 14:14:16 -0600 Received: from sonny.org (dad.liston.nu [192.168.1.60]) by sonny.com (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id h62LEaNn013433; Wed, 2 Jul 2003 16:14:36 -0500 Message-ID: <3F034BCB.1050901@sonny.org> Date: Wed, 02 Jul 2003 16:16:59 -0500 From: Daniel Liston User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.4) Gecko/20030624 Netscape/7.1 (ax) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: georgek@netwrx1.com Cc: majordomo-users@greatcircle.com Subject: Re: (fwd) RE: Anyone use FreshAddress? References: <21j5gv8jnd4n58paov29ugotvsckjo7a51@4ax.com> In-Reply-To: <21j5gv8jnd4n58paov29ugotvsckjo7a51@4ax.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-SMTP-HELO: sonny.com X-SMTP-MAIL-FROM: dliston@sonny.org X-SMTP-PEER-INFO: 24-116-58-25.cpe.cableone.net [24.116.58.25] X-Archive-Number: 200307/8 X-Sequence-Number: 3438 You should post this to the majordomo-owner@greatcircle.com address so they can remove the link and promo for freshaddress from their site if this is the way freshaddress wants to support majordomo users/owners. Dan Liston George Kasica wrote: > On Tue, 1 Jul 2003 17:05:15 -0400, "Austin C. Bliss" > wrote: > >>George- >> >>I understand your frustration, as we were having a lot of frustration with >>the free majordomo plug-in too... the code had been written by one of our >>outside partners, and they were slow to offer support. Meanwhile, our >>technical people knew little about majordomo, and thus we were unable to >>offer any direct assistance. >> >>Ultimately, we decided to remove the free plug-in offer from our website & >>pull the service from our product line. FreshAddress, Inc. services >>hundreds of happy clients with large email lists, but we'll have to continue >>the search for products to allow smaller companies such as yours to take >>advantage of our "Build & Update Your Email List" services. >> >>Thanks for giving the service a whirl, and I apologize again for your >>negative experience. If you'd like, you can feel free to post any of this >>to the majordomo list, or contact me for any questions. >> >>Regards, >>Austin >> >>Austin Bliss >>President >>austin@freshaddress.com >>http://freshaddress.com/biz >> >> >>> >-----Original Message----- >>> >From: George Kasica >>> >Sent: Wednesday, June 11, 2003 9:07 AM >>> >To: Jason Jacobs >>> >Cc: majordomo-users@greatcircle.com >>> >Subject: Re: Anyone use FreshAddress? >>> > >>> > >>> >>On Tue, 10 Jun 2003 17:00:03 -0400, you wrote: >>> > >>> >>I'm just curious if anyone is using this product and how well you're >>> >satisfied with it. >>> >> >>> >>-j >>> >Tried it, got tons of user complaints about privacy and why I "sold" >>> >their addresses, plus it didn't work here after MONTHS of trying and >>> >support was very slow...days between a question and wrong answer. I'd >>> >avoid it. >>> >--------------------------------------- >>> >Don't you agree that it's worth every dollar you paid for it? >>> >>> Carl: >>> >>> I hope you're being funny, because it cost us a great deal of time and >>> as a result money here to mess with this program, not to mention the >>> customer complaints that resulted from it. >>> >>> Free or not, when a company is selling or providing a product and I >>> have a signed contract for support etc. I expect it to be at least >>> marginally honored. They wren't even close. >>> >>> I get more support for truly FREE and Open majordomo than I did for >>> this. >>> >>> George >>> >>> ===[George R. Kasica]=== +1 262 677 0766 >>> President +1 206 374 6482 FAX >>> Netwrx Consulting Inc. Jackson, WI USA >>> http://www.netwrx1.com >>> georgek@netwrx1.com >>> ICQ #12862186 >>> >> From majordomo-users-owner@greatcircle.com Wed Jul 2 14:27:56 2003 Received: from scanmail1.cableone.net (scanmail1.cableone.net [24.116.0.121]) by mycroft.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 493AE19615D for ; Wed, 2 Jul 2003 14:27:55 -0700 (PDT) Received: from scanmail1.cableone.net ([10.116.0.121]) by scanmail1.cableone.net with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1877.687.68); Wed, 2 Jul 2003 14:27:32 -0700 Received: from scanmail1.cableone.net [24.116.0.121] by scanmail1.cableone.net (SMTPD32-7.04) id AE4492B5022E; Wed, 02 Jul 2003 14:27:32 -0700 Received: from sonny.com (24-116-58-25.cpe.cableone.net [24.116.58.25]) by mail.cableone.net with SMTP (MailShield v2.04 - WIN32 Jul 17 2001 17:12:42); Wed, 02 Jul 2003 14:27:32 -0600 Received: from sonny.org (dad.liston.nu [192.168.1.60]) by sonny.com (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id h62LRqNn013490; Wed, 2 Jul 2003 16:27:52 -0500 Message-ID: <3F034EE7.4020900@sonny.org> Date: Wed, 02 Jul 2003 16:30:15 -0500 From: Daniel Liston User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.4) Gecko/20030624 Netscape/7.1 (ax) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "Jack L. Stone" Cc: majordomo-users@greatcircle.com Subject: Re: Majordomo & Demime References: <3.0.5.32.20030702115157.013c6cb0@sage-one.net> In-Reply-To: <3.0.5.32.20030702115157.013c6cb0@sage-one.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-SMTP-HELO: sonny.com X-SMTP-MAIL-FROM: dliston@sonny.org X-SMTP-PEER-INFO: 24-116-58-25.cpe.cableone.net [24.116.58.25] X-Archive-Number: 200307/9 X-Sequence-Number: 3439 Here is something we went through several months ago to get around the sendmail smrsh security for demime. ######################################################################## # # The sample recipe "helps" assure each message is addressed to the list. # The recipe(s) MUST be owned by the same UID sendmail/procmail runs as. # (I set them 664 mail:majordomo) # Then I use procmail to demime (clean) messages into ASCII format since # sendmail does not allow piping to "second" pipes or filters. # # First the alias; # LISTNAME: "|/usr/bin/procmail -f- /var/lib/majordomo/recipe/LISTNAME" # # Then the recipes; # :0fhw # * !^(To|Cc):.*LISTNAME(-digest)?@DOMAIN\.TLD # | /usr/bin/formail -I "X-ApprovalRequired: true" # :0 # | /usr/lib/majordomo/wrapper demime - | /usr/lib/majordomo/wrapper resend -l LISTNAME LISTNAME-outgiong,nobody # # Note, using a global or per-list taboo filter on "X-ApprovalRequired:" # will bounce Bcc:'d hostname qualified mail to the LISTNAME-approval address. # /^X-ApprovalRequired:/i # Alternative condition line so that BCC'd address is also accepted; # * !^TO_LISTNAME(-digest)?@DOMAIN\.TLD # where there is no space between TO_ and the LISTNAME. TO_ is case sensitive. # ######################################################################### Dan Liston Jack L. Stone wrote: > Dear list: Please forgive me for asking about a subject that may have an > answer in the archives, but I have been unable to locate a posting there > that applies exactly to my own situation, nor does the Demime website > instructions for using Demime. It seems most applies to Linux and I am > running FBSD.4.8 (Unix). At least I remain unsure. > > I am also running Sendmail.8.12.8, SpamAssassin & Procmail & Majordomo.1.94.5. > > As you might guess, I have to spend way too much time dealing with bounces > because of HTML (especially AOL's tack-ons) and attachments. > > I have several mail lists running on various Vhosts. > > Finally, I have installed Demime-1.1c, but remained unclear about the > proper modification to the Aliases for each mail list. Again, the only > examples I see are for Linux, although I suspect the setup is a similar > one. However, before messing up things, I would like some tips from anyone > running a similar configration. Here is a test alias setup as an example. > Would someone please advise which line to modify/add for use of Demime > which reside in: > /usr/local/bin/demime > ...and NOT with the ../majordomo/wrapper > > I'm proving this link rather than clog up this message with long lines. > http://www.franklin-belle.com/tmp/fblist.txt > > Thanks in advance. > > > > Best regards, > Jack L. Stone, > Administrator > > SageOne Net > http://www.sage-one.net > jackstone@sage-one.net From majordomo-users-owner@greatcircle.com Thu Jul 3 04:27:37 2003 Received: from eagle.netwrx1.com (unknown [156.46.225.18]) by mycroft.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id AEDF51967E7; Thu, 3 Jul 2003 04:27:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: from notebook1.netwrx1.com ([156.46.225.19]) by eagle.netwrx1.com with smtp (Exim 3.36 #1) id 19Y2FK-0006Ge-00; Thu, 03 Jul 2003 06:27:26 -0500 From: George Kasica To: majordomo-owner@greatcircle.com Cc: majordomo-users@greatcircle.com, Daniel Liston Subject: (fwd) Re: (fwd) RE: Anyone use FreshAddress? Date: Thu, 03 Jul 2003 06:27:26 -0500 Organization: Netwrx Consulting Inc. Reply-To: georgek@netwrx1.com Message-ID: X-Mailer: Forte Agent 1.93/32.576 English (American) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Scanner: exiscan *19Y2FK-0006Ge-00*5t2Gd8baisA* (Netwrx Consulting Inc., Jackson, WI USA) X-Archive-Number: 200307/10 X-Sequence-Number: 3440 On Wed, 02 Jul 2003 16:16:59 -0500, Daniel Liston wrote: Done! >You should post this to the majordomo-owner@greatcircle.com address so >they can remove the link and promo for freshaddress from their site if >this is the way freshaddress wants to support majordomo users/owners. > >Dan Liston > >George Kasica wrote: > >> On Tue, 1 Jul 2003 17:05:15 -0400, "Austin C. Bliss" >> wrote: >> >>>George- >>> >>>I understand your frustration, as we were having a lot of frustration with >>>the free majordomo plug-in too... the code had been written by one of our >>>outside partners, and they were slow to offer support. Meanwhile, our >>>technical people knew little about majordomo, and thus we were unable to >>>offer any direct assistance. >>> >>>Ultimately, we decided to remove the free plug-in offer from our website & >>>pull the service from our product line. FreshAddress, Inc. services >>>hundreds of happy clients with large email lists, but we'll have to continue >>>the search for products to allow smaller companies such as yours to take >>>advantage of our "Build & Update Your Email List" services. >>> >>>Thanks for giving the service a whirl, and I apologize again for your >>>negative experience. If you'd like, you can feel free to post any of this >>>to the majordomo list, or contact me for any questions. >>> >>>Regards, >>>Austin >>> >>>Austin Bliss >>>President >>>austin@freshaddress.com >>>http://freshaddress.com/biz >>> >>> >>>> >-----Original Message----- >>>> >From: George Kasica >>>> >Sent: Wednesday, June 11, 2003 9:07 AM >>>> >To: Jason Jacobs >>>> >Cc: majordomo-users@greatcircle.com >>>> >Subject: Re: Anyone use FreshAddress? >>>> > >>>> > >>>> >>On Tue, 10 Jun 2003 17:00:03 -0400, you wrote: >>>> > >>>> >>I'm just curious if anyone is using this product and how well you're >>>> >satisfied with it. >>>> >> >>>> >>-j >>>> >Tried it, got tons of user complaints about privacy and why I "sold" >>>> >their addresses, plus it didn't work here after MONTHS of trying and >>>> >support was very slow...days between a question and wrong answer. I'd >>>> >avoid it. >>>> >--------------------------------------- >>>> >Don't you agree that it's worth every dollar you paid for it? >>>> >>>> Carl: >>>> >>>> I hope you're being funny, because it cost us a great deal of time and >>>> as a result money here to mess with this program, not to mention the >>>> customer complaints that resulted from it. >>>> >>>> Free or not, when a company is selling or providing a product and I >>>> have a signed contract for support etc. I expect it to be at least >>>> marginally honored. They wren't even close. >>>> >>>> I get more support for truly FREE and Open majordomo than I did for >>>> this. >>>> >>>> George >>>> >>>> ===[George R. Kasica]=== +1 262 677 0766 >>>> President +1 206 374 6482 FAX >>>> Netwrx Consulting Inc. Jackson, WI USA >>>> http://www.netwrx1.com >>>> georgek@netwrx1.com >>>> ICQ #12862186 >>>> >>> > From majordomo-users-owner@greatcircle.com Thu Jul 3 07:20:36 2003 Received: from xrx-inc.com (mail.xrx-inc.com [12.13.116.226]) by mycroft.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 278FA19620F for ; Thu, 3 Jul 2003 07:20:35 -0700 (PDT) Received: from xrx-inc.com (localhost.xrx-inc.com [127.0.0.1]) by xrx-inc.com (8.12.6/8.12.6) with ESMTP id h63EMhGN001212 for ; Thu, 3 Jul 2003 09:22:43 -0500 (CDT) Received: (from timothy@localhost) by xrx-inc.com (8.12.6/8.12.6/Submit) id h63EMg21001211 for majordomo-users@greatcircle.com; Thu, 3 Jul 2003 09:22:42 -0500 (CDT) Date: Thu, 3 Jul 2003 09:22:42 -0500 (CDT) From: "Dr. Tim" Message-Id: <200307031422.h63EMg21001211@xrx-inc.com> To: majordomo-users@greatcircle.com Subject: piping to majordomo fails X-Archive-Number: 200307/11 X-Sequence-Number: 3441 I am having serious trouble with majordomo command after I tried to set up a new sendmail cf with relaying I get the following error. in my maillog to"| to"/path/to/majordomo/wrapper majordomo" ctaddr (1/0) delay=00:00:01, xdelay =00:00:00, mailer=prog, pri=30550 dsn=4.0.o0 satt=Operating system error an d of course the mail dies. as stat is an error. I have restored the old sendmail cf and resotred all fieles prior to this but I steill get the error. So I messed up. but majordomo gets NO mail to process. HOWEVER< mail to our list works great. it is sent through the standard address but it works! any ideas despearte. tim From majordomo-users-owner@greatcircle.com Thu Jul 3 12:18:31 2003 Received: from ckmso2.proxy.att.com (unknown [209.219.209.75]) by mycroft.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4F596196915 for ; Thu, 3 Jul 2003 12:18:29 -0700 (PDT) Received: from attrh0i.attrh.att.com ([135.37.94.54]) by ckmso2.proxy.att.com (AT&T IPNS/MSO-5.0) with ESMTP id h63JGdoW013490 for ; Thu, 3 Jul 2003 15:18:27 -0400 Received: from acclust02evs1.ugd.att.com (135.37.16.9) by attrh0i.attrh.att.com (6.5.032) id 3F01A79A000ACD69 for majordomo-users@greatcircle.com; Thu, 3 Jul 2003 15:17:55 -0400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.0.6375.0 Content-Class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: 2 Questions Date: Thu, 3 Jul 2003 15:18:27 -0400 Message-ID: X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: 2 Questions Thread-Index: AcNBl+C+vVB1dTgDTCKjnYoUo6ZRsA== From: "Williams, Travis L, NPONS" To: X-Archive-Number: 200307/12 X-Sequence-Number: 3442 I can get majordomo to act as a mailing list.. but I can't seem to get it t= o archive/digest. I will post my aliases at the bottom. My second questio= n is on the newconfig command.. what I did was copied the config.. made my = changes added the line newconfig list listpwd at the top of the new file.. = then did a sendmail majordom < newconfigfile.. and I got an error about unb= alance '"' (which is single quote double quote single qoute).. any ideas? Aliases #Majordomo Alias majordomo: "|/opt/majordomo-1.94.5/wrapper majordomo owner-majordomo: tlw@att.com majordomo-owner: tlw@att.com #Ruby Alias ruby: :include:/opt/majordomo-1.94.5/lists/ruby #ruby: "|/opt/majordomo-1.94.5/wrapper resend -l ruby ruby-list" #ruby-list: :include:/opt/majordomo-1.94.5/lists/ruby owner-ruby: tlw@att.com ruby-owner: tlw@att.com ruby-request: "|/opt/majordomo-1.94.5/wrapper majordomo -l ruby" #Ruby Digest ruby-digest: ruby ruby-digest-outgoing: :include:/opt/majordomo-1.94.5/lists/ruby-digest owner-ruby-digest: tlw@att.com ruby-digest-owner: tlw@att.com ruby-outgoing: :include:/opt/majordomo-1.94.5/lists/ruby, ruby-digestify ruby-digestify: "|/opt/majordomo-1.94.5/wrapper digest -r -C -l ruby-digest= ruby -digest-outgoing" From majordomo-users-owner@greatcircle.com Thu Jul 3 21:04:17 2003 Received: from scanmail1.cableone.net (scanmail1.cableone.net [24.116.0.121]) by mycroft.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 32F90196799 for ; Thu, 3 Jul 2003 21:04:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: from scanmail1.cableone.net ([10.116.0.121]) by scanmail1.cableone.net with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1877.687.68); Thu, 3 Jul 2003 21:03:50 -0700 Received: from scanmail1.cableone.net [24.116.0.121] by scanmail1.cableone.net (SMTPD32-7.04) id ACA616240162; Thu, 03 Jul 2003 21:03:50 -0700 Received: from sonny.com (24-116-58-25.cpe.cableone.net [24.116.58.25]) by mail.cableone.net with SMTP (MailShield v2.04 - WIN32 Jul 17 2001 17:12:42); Thu, 03 Jul 2003 21:03:49 -0600 Received: from sonny.org (dad.liston.nu [192.168.1.60]) by sonny.com (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id h6443bNn021110; Thu, 3 Jul 2003 23:04:13 -0500 Message-ID: <3F04FD1F.1010602@sonny.org> Date: Thu, 03 Jul 2003 23:05:51 -0500 From: Daniel Liston User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.4) Gecko/20030624 Netscape/7.1 (ax) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "Dr. Tim" Cc: majordomo-users@greatcircle.com Subject: Re: piping to majordomo fails References: <200307031422.h63EMg21001211@xrx-inc.com> In-Reply-To: <200307031422.h63EMg21001211@xrx-inc.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-SMTP-HELO: sonny.com X-SMTP-MAIL-FROM: dliston@sonny.org X-SMTP-PEER-INFO: 24-116-58-25.cpe.cableone.net [24.116.58.25] X-Archive-Number: 200307/13 X-Sequence-Number: 3443 Looking at the quoting in your message, you probably have stray quote symbols in the alias for majordomo, or not enough. Since majordomo can ONLY be called from sendmail via the aliases file, the syntax of the alias is crucial. It also appears that you may possibly have non-printable control characters in the lines you mentioned. Everywhere a square appears in your email, is an unprintable character that could be throwing off either majordomo or sendmail. majordomo: "|/path/to/majordomo/wrapper majordomo" Dan Liston Dr. Tim wrote: > I am having serious trouble with majordomo command > > after I tried to set up a new sendmail cf with relaying > I get the following error. > > in my maillog > to"| > to"/path/to/majordomo/wrapper majordomo" ctaddr (1/0) > delay=00:00:01, xdelay =00:00:00, mailer=prog, pri=30550 dsn=4.0.o0 > satt=Operating system error > > an d of course the mail dies. as stat is an error. > > I have restored the old sendmail cf and resotred all fieles > prior to this but I steill get the error. So I messed up. > but majordomo gets NO mail to process. HOWEVER< mail to > our list works great. it is sent through the standard address > but it works! > > any ideas > despearte. > tim From majordomo-users-owner@greatcircle.com Thu Jul 3 21:31:18 2003 Received: from scanmail1.cableone.net (scanmail1.cableone.net [24.116.0.121]) by mycroft.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id BFF78196364 for ; Thu, 3 Jul 2003 21:31:16 -0700 (PDT) Received: from scanmail1.cableone.net ([10.116.0.121]) by scanmail1.cableone.net with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1877.687.68); Thu, 3 Jul 2003 21:30:44 -0700 Received: from scanmail1.cableone.net [24.116.0.121] by scanmail1.cableone.net (SMTPD32-7.04) id A2F07A530252; Thu, 03 Jul 2003 21:30:43 -0700 Received: from sonny.com (24-116-58-25.cpe.cableone.net [24.116.58.25]) by mail.cableone.net with SMTP (MailShield v2.04 - WIN32 Jul 17 2001 17:12:42); Thu, 03 Jul 2003 21:30:43 -0600 Received: from sonny.org (dad.liston.nu [192.168.1.60]) by sonny.com (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id h644V7Nn021286; Thu, 3 Jul 2003 23:31:07 -0500 Message-ID: <3F05039B.40002@sonny.org> Date: Thu, 03 Jul 2003 23:33:31 -0500 From: Daniel Liston User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.4) Gecko/20030624 Netscape/7.1 (ax) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "Williams, Travis L, NPONS" Cc: majordomo-users@greatcircle.com Subject: Re: 2 Questions References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-SMTP-HELO: sonny.com X-SMTP-MAIL-FROM: dliston@sonny.org X-SMTP-PEER-INFO: 24-116-58-25.cpe.cableone.net [24.116.58.25] X-Archive-Number: 200307/14 X-Sequence-Number: 3444 Williams, Travis L, NPONS wrote: > I can get majordomo to act as a mailing list.. but I can't seem to get it to archive/digest. > I will post my aliases at the bottom. My second question is on the newconfig command.. what > I did was copied the config.. made my changes added the line newconfig list listpwd at the > top of the new file.. then did a sendmail majordom < newconfigfile.. and I got an error about > unbalance '"' (which is single quote double quote single qoute).. any ideas? > "sendmail majordom < newconfigfile" is not correct syntax or procedure. > > > Aliases > > > #Majordomo Alias You are missing the ending double quote on the majordomo line below. This will make sendmail search across lines until it finds a closing quote. > majordomo: "|/opt/majordomo-1.94.5/wrapper majordomo > owner-majordomo: tlw@att.com > majordomo-owner: tlw@att.com > > #Ruby Alias > ruby: :include:/opt/majordomo-1.94.5/lists/ruby > #ruby: "|/opt/majordomo-1.94.5/wrapper resend -l ruby ruby-list" > #ruby-list: :include:/opt/majordomo-1.94.5/lists/ruby > owner-ruby: tlw@att.com > ruby-owner: tlw@att.com > ruby-request: "|/opt/majordomo-1.94.5/wrapper majordomo -l ruby" > #Ruby Digest > ruby-digest: ruby > ruby-digest-outgoing: :include:/opt/majordomo-1.94.5/lists/ruby-digest > owner-ruby-digest: tlw@att.com > ruby-digest-owner: tlw@att.com > ruby-outgoing: :include:/opt/majordomo-1.94.5/lists/ruby, ruby-digestify > ruby-digestify: "|/opt/majordomo-1.94.5/wrapper digest -r -C -l ruby-digest ruby-digest-outgoing" > Your "ruby" alias is not making use of the "resend" script provided with majordomo. This is the same as using a static, non-managed mailing list. If you substitute ruby for test in the example below, you may have better luck. test: "|/opt/majordomo-1.94.5/wrapper resend -l test test-outgoing,nobody" owner-test: test-owner, test-owner: dliston test-approval: test-owner test-outgoing: :include:/opt/majordomo-1.94.5/lists/test,test-archiver,test-digestify test-archiver: "|/opt/majordomo-1.94.5/wrapper archive2.pl -f /opt/majordomo-1.94.5/archives/test/test -a -M" test-digestify: "|/opt/majordomo-1.94.5/wrapper digest -r -C -l test-digest test-digest-outgoing,nobody" test-request: "|/opt/majordomo-1.94.5/wrapper majordomo -l test" test-digest: test owner-test-digest: owner-test test-digest-outgoing: "|/usr/bin/bulk_mailer owner-test@sonny.org /opt/majordomo-1.94.5/lists/test-digest" The above aliases have a dependency on entries in the majordomo.cf file; $whereami = "sonny.org"; $homedir = "/opt/majordomo-1.94.5"; $datadir = "/opt/majordomo-1.94.5"; $listdir = "$datadir/lists"; $digest_work_dir = "$datadir/digests"; $filedir = "$datadir/archives"; $filedir_suffix = ""; $majordomo_request = 1; Dan Liston From majordomo-users-owner@greatcircle.com Fri Jul 4 12:40:30 2003 Received: from xrx-inc.com (mail.xrx-inc.com [12.13.116.226]) by mycroft.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B3B7A195B7E for ; Fri, 4 Jul 2003 12:40:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: from xrx-inc.com (localhost.xrx-inc.com [127.0.0.1]) by xrx-inc.com (8.12.6/8.12.6) with ESMTP id h64JgZuV001079 for ; Fri, 4 Jul 2003 14:42:35 -0500 (CDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by xrx-inc.com (8.12.6/8.12.6/Submit) id h64JgZTN001078 for majordomo-users@greatcircle.com; Fri, 4 Jul 2003 14:42:35 -0500 (CDT) Date: Fri, 4 Jul 2003 14:42:35 -0500 (CDT) From: "Dr. Tim" Message-Id: <200307041942.h64JgZTN001078@xrx-inc.com> To: majordomo-users@greatcircle.com Subject: Operating system error. X-Archive-Number: 200307/15 X-Sequence-Number: 3445 It is getting real odd here. I have 1.94.5 majordomo. Freebsd 4.4 I have very very carefully restored old majordomo aliases and cf files I have right now the following occuring after very very carefull retyping the alias line that is appropriate. majordomo alias is "|\path\md\wrapper majordomo" This fails everytime with first in the maillog that to:majordomo the message is set with mailer=relay and the message is sent. Then right after the message is cloned. Then the cloned message is sent to the majordomo pipe and it comes back Operating system error. As I had said earlier I had tried to set up the access data base and relaying but then I started having trouble with the majordomo address. I have check the alias file. ONLYONE MAJORDOMO alias all the other aliases work, including our list alias for postint sending and digests. ONLY majordomo (ie subscribe help etc...) is NOT working. ./wrapper config-test is just totally happy. I check early maillogs and what is strange is that it never recorded this mail to majordomo delivered ok then cloned then piped. I am convinced it has something to to with relaying but all those files I have restored and no nada change. still get the error. If I run demime before the wrapper it errors with EX_TEMPFAIL which means that sendmail returns something weird to the demime program. I am about to write a procmail script to support sub/help/unsub if I can't get this fixed and then rebuild the entire sucker from scratch but I really really don't want to do that! ANYONE? Tim From majordomo-users-owner@greatcircle.com Fri Jul 4 14:02:49 2003 Received: from mail.bcpl.net (mail.bcpl.net [204.255.212.10]) by mycroft.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id BEA87195A7B for ; Fri, 4 Jul 2003 14:02:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail.bcpl.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.bcpl.net (8.12.9/8.12.9) with ESMTP id h64L2kRL015016 for ; Fri, 4 Jul 2003 17:02:46 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (fold@localhost) by mail.bcpl.net (8.12.9/8.12.9/Submit) with ESMTP id h64L2kLG015010 for ; Fri, 4 Jul 2003 17:02:46 -0400 (EDT) X-Authentication-Warning: mail.bcpl.net: fold owned process doing -bs Date: Fri, 4 Jul 2003 17:02:46 -0400 (EDT) From: Chip Old X-X-Sender: fold@mail To: MAJORDOMO-USERS Subject: Re: Operating system error. In-Reply-To: <200307041942.h64JgZTN001078@xrx-inc.com> Message-ID: References: <200307041942.h64JgZTN001078@xrx-inc.com> X-Organization: BCPL.NET Internet Services X-Complaints-To: abuse@bcpl.net MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Archive-Number: 200307/16 X-Sequence-Number: 3446 On Fri, 4 Jul 2003 14:42 -0500, Dr. Tim wrote: > I have 1.94.5 majordomo. Freebsd 4.4 > > I have very very carefully restored old majordomo aliases and cf files > I have right now the following occuring after very very carefull retyping > the alias line that is appropriate. > > majordomo alias is "|\path\md\wrapper majordomo" With backslashes, as you typed it above? FreeBSD is not MS-DOS. -- Chip Old (Francis E. Old) E-Mail: fold@bcpl.net Manager, BCPL Network Services Phone: 410-887-6180 Manager, BCPL.NET Internet Services FAX: 410-887-2091 320 York Road Towson, MD 21204 USA From majordomo-users-owner@greatcircle.com Fri Jul 4 16:30:40 2003 Received: from xrx-inc.com (mail.xrx-inc.com [12.13.116.226]) by mycroft.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3BE05195A15 for ; Fri, 4 Jul 2003 16:30:37 -0700 (PDT) Received: from xrx-inc.com (localhost.xrx-inc.com [127.0.0.1]) by xrx-inc.com (8.12.6/8.12.6) with ESMTP id h64NWj3C001016; Fri, 4 Jul 2003 18:32:45 -0500 (CDT) Received: (from timothy@localhost) by xrx-inc.com (8.12.6/8.12.6/Submit) id h64NWiRe001015; Fri, 4 Jul 2003 18:32:44 -0500 (CDT) Date: Fri, 4 Jul 2003 18:32:44 -0500 (CDT) From: "Dr. Tim" Message-Id: <200307042332.h64NWiRe001015@xrx-inc.com> To: fold@bcpl.net, majordomo-users@greatcircle.com Subject: Re: Operating system error. In-Reply-To: X-Archive-Number: 200307/17 X-Sequence-Number: 3447 that was me typing at the keyboard andyes it has the correct forward slashes. This is driving me nuts. Mess with sendmail and majordomo ONLY part of it goes down. Sheez. tim From majordomo-users-owner@greatcircle.com Fri Jul 4 17:09:38 2003 Received: from xrx-inc.com (mail.xrx-inc.com [12.13.116.226]) by mycroft.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B800F195A17 for ; Fri, 4 Jul 2003 17:09:35 -0700 (PDT) Received: from xrx-inc.com (localhost.xrx-inc.com [127.0.0.1]) by xrx-inc.com (8.12.6/8.12.6) with ESMTP id h650Bj3C001974 for ; Fri, 4 Jul 2003 19:11:45 -0500 (CDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by xrx-inc.com (8.12.6/8.12.6/Submit) id h650BjTS001973 for majordomo-users@greatcircle.com; Fri, 4 Jul 2003 19:11:45 -0500 (CDT) Date: Fri, 4 Jul 2003 19:11:45 -0500 (CDT) From: "Dr. Tim" Message-Id: <200307050011.h650BjTS001973@xrx-inc.com> To: majordomo-users@greatcircle.com Subject: Stat=Operating system erro X-Archive-Number: 200307/18 X-Sequence-Number: 3448 I miss typed the slashes on my note but they are correct. the alias can be read from below. Old maillog file Apr 5 01:02:38 xrx-inc sendmail[31278]: h3572aYu031277: h3572cYu031278: clone:owner=majordomo-owner Apr 5 01:02:39 xrx-inc sendmail[31278]: h3572cYu031278: to="|/usr/local/ majordomo-1.94.5/demime '|/usr/local/majordomo-1.94.5/wrapper majordomo'", ctladdr= (1/0), delay=00:00:02, xdelay=00:00:01, mailer=prog, pri=40478, dsn=2.0.0, stat=Sent New Maillog file with the problem Jul 4 15:58:59 xrx-inc sendmail[1034]: h64Kww60001033: h64Kwx60001034: clone: owner=majordomo-owner Jul 4 15:58:59 xrx-inc sendmail[1034]: h64Kwx60001034: to="|/usr/local/ majordomo-1.94.5/wrapper majordomo", ctladdr= (1/0), delay=00:00:01, xdelay=00:00:00, mailer=prog, pri=30573, dsn=4.0.0, stat=Operating system error Notice I removed demime to try to make it work but it was not demime demime gave an error because sendmail gave it a bad response and demime generated a requeing. I have taken the files majordomo and majordomo.pl and majordomo.cf from a tarball and replaced the existing ones and it still happens! I am convinced I skrewed up majordomo's interaction with sendmail but how.... Looking for ideas tim From majordomo-users-owner@greatcircle.com Fri Jul 4 17:13:04 2003 Received: from xrx-inc.com (mail.xrx-inc.com [12.13.116.226]) by mycroft.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C76B3196AF9 for ; Fri, 4 Jul 2003 17:13:02 -0700 (PDT) Received: from xrx-inc.com (localhost.xrx-inc.com [127.0.0.1]) by xrx-inc.com (8.12.6/8.12.6) with ESMTP id h650FD3C001997 for ; Fri, 4 Jul 2003 19:15:13 -0500 (CDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by xrx-inc.com (8.12.6/8.12.6/Submit) id h650FCI5001996 for majordomo-users@greatcircle.com; Fri, 4 Jul 2003 19:15:12 -0500 (CDT) Date: Fri, 4 Jul 2003 19:15:12 -0500 (CDT) From: "Dr. Tim" Message-Id: <200307050015.h650FCI5001996@xrx-inc.com> To: majordomo-users@greatcircle.com Subject: Stat=Operating system error X-Archive-Number: 200307/19 X-Sequence-Number: 3449 One more thing that may help. majordomo STOPPED writing to its log file..... tim From majordomo-users-owner@greatcircle.com Fri Jul 4 17:30:38 2003 Received: from xrx-inc.com (mail.xrx-inc.com [12.13.116.226]) by mycroft.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 421D5196C4B for ; Fri, 4 Jul 2003 17:30:36 -0700 (PDT) Received: from xrx-inc.com (localhost.xrx-inc.com [127.0.0.1]) by xrx-inc.com (8.12.6/8.12.6) with ESMTP id h650Wk3C002984 for ; Fri, 4 Jul 2003 19:32:46 -0500 (CDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by xrx-inc.com (8.12.6/8.12.6/Submit) id h650WkAw002983 for majordomo-users@greatcircle.com; Fri, 4 Jul 2003 19:32:46 -0500 (CDT) Date: Fri, 4 Jul 2003 19:32:46 -0500 (CDT) From: "Dr. Tim" Message-Id: <200307050032.h650WkAw002983@xrx-inc.com> To: majordomo-users@greatcircle.com Subject: Stat:Operating system eror update X-Archive-Number: 200307/20 X-Sequence-Number: 3450 I just got back after it failed for 4 days to delieve the message the following wrapper: Trying to exec /usr/local/majordomo-1.94.5/majordomo failed: No such fi le or directory which is interesting since it exists and there are no typo's there. more of the note Did you define PERL correctly in the Makefile? HOME is HOME=/usr/local/majordomo-1.94.5, PATH is PATH=/bin:/usr/bin:/usr/ucb, SHELL is SHELL=/bin/sh, MAJORDOMO_CF is MAJORDOMO_CF=/usr/local/majordomo-1.94.5/majordomo.cf 451 4.0.0 Operating system error so perhaps this may help someone figure it out. TIm From majordomo-users-owner@greatcircle.com Fri Jul 4 20:22:31 2003 Received: from mcastl.juda.com (pool-138-89-73-123.mad.east.verizon.net [138.89.73.123]) by mycroft.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 32885195F77 for ; Fri, 4 Jul 2003 20:22:29 -0700 (PDT) Received: from juda.com (krazyhouse.juda.com [192.168.1.5]) by mcastl.juda.com (8.11.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h653MPv03556; Fri, 4 Jul 2003 23:22:25 -0400 Message-ID: <3F064470.4030301@juda.com> Date: Fri, 04 Jul 2003 23:22:24 -0400 From: Burt Juda User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win 9x 4.90; en-US; rv:1.4) Gecko/20030624 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "Dr. Tim" Cc: Majordomo Users Subject: Re: Stat:Operating system eror update References: <200307050032.h650WkAw002983@xrx-inc.com> In-Reply-To: <200307050032.h650WkAw002983@xrx-inc.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Archive-Number: 200307/21 X-Sequence-Number: 3451 Sounds like an ownership/permissions problem to me. On my system, 'wrapper' is SUID root.root (4755). Sounds like something took away its SUID bit. Also, is the 'majordomo' user defined as the SAME numeric UID/GID as before? That's something that's compiled into the wrapper. - Burt Dr. Tim wrote: >I just got back after it failed for 4 days to delieve the message the following > >wrapper: Trying to exec /usr/local/majordomo-1.94.5/majordomo failed: No such fi >le or directory > >which is interesting since it exists and there are no typo's there. > >more of the note > Did you define PERL correctly in the Makefile? > HOME is HOME=/usr/local/majordomo-1.94.5, > PATH is PATH=/bin:/usr/bin:/usr/ucb, > SHELL is SHELL=/bin/sh, > MAJORDOMO_CF is MAJORDOMO_CF=/usr/local/majordomo-1.94.5/majordomo.cf >451 4.0.0 Operating system error > >so perhaps this may help someone figure it out. > >TIm > > > From majordomo-users-owner@greatcircle.com Fri Jul 4 20:53:36 2003 Received: from heron.mail.pas.earthlink.net (heron.mail.pas.earthlink.net [207.217.120.189]) by mycroft.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B2B79195F6A for ; Fri, 4 Jul 2003 20:52:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: from user-vcaum02.dsl.mindspring.com ([216.175.88.2] helo=queernet.org) by heron.mail.pas.earthlink.net with asmtp (TLSv1:RC4-MD5:128) (Exim 3.33 #1) id 19Ye66-0003tv-00; Fri, 04 Jul 2003 20:52:26 -0700 Message-ID: <3F064B79.1040408@queernet.org> Date: Fri, 04 Jul 2003 20:52:25 -0700 From: "Roger B.A. Klorese" User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.4) Gecko/20030624 X-Accept-Language: en, en-us, fr-be, fr-ca, fr-fr, fr-lu, fr-mc, fr-ch MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "Dr. Tim" Cc: majordomo-users@greatcircle.com Subject: Re: Stat:Operating system eror update References: <200307050032.h650WkAw002983@xrx-inc.com> In-Reply-To: <200307050032.h650WkAw002983@xrx-inc.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-ELNK-Trace: 95a5daa1092a4a38d780f4a490ca69564776905774d2ac4b3b78828fa647af3a588ca43dd6bb9bb5350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c X-Archive-Number: 200307/22 X-Sequence-Number: 3452 Dr. Tim wrote: >I just got back after it failed for 4 days to delieve the message the following > >wrapper: Trying to exec /usr/local/majordomo-1.94.5/majordomo failed: No such fi >le or directory > >which is interesting since it exists and there are no typo's there. > > But does your Perl exist at the location in the first line of /usr/local/majordomo-1.94.5/majordomo? From majordomo-users-owner@greatcircle.com Sat Jul 5 12:39:34 2003 Received: from scanmail3.cableone.net (scanmail3.cableone.net [24.116.0.123]) by mycroft.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 075D9196075 for ; Sat, 5 Jul 2003 12:39:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: from scanmail3.cableone.net ([10.116.0.123]) by scanmail3.cableone.net with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1877.687.68); Sat, 5 Jul 2003 12:38:38 -0700 Received: from scanmail3.cableone.net [24.116.0.123] by scanmail3.cableone.net (SMTPD32-7.04) id A91F4AB30124; Sat, 05 Jul 2003 12:38:07 -0700 Received: from sonny.com (24-116-58-25.cpe.cableone.net [24.116.58.25]) by mail.cableone.net with SMTP (MailShield v2.04 - WIN32 Jul 17 2001 17:12:42); Sat, 05 Jul 2003 12:38:07 -0600 Received: from sonny.org (dad.liston.nu [192.168.1.60]) by sonny.com (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id h65Jd3Nn030466; Sat, 5 Jul 2003 14:39:03 -0500 Message-ID: <3F0729CF.1090609@sonny.org> Date: Sat, 05 Jul 2003 14:41:03 -0500 From: Daniel Liston User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.4) Gecko/20030624 Netscape/7.1 (ax) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "Dr. Tim" Cc: majordomo-users@greatcircle.com Subject: Re: Operating system error. References: <200307041942.h64JgZTN001078@xrx-inc.com> In-Reply-To: <200307041942.h64JgZTN001078@xrx-inc.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-SMTP-HELO: sonny.com X-SMTP-MAIL-FROM: dliston@sonny.org X-SMTP-PEER-INFO: 24-116-58-25.cpe.cableone.net [24.116.58.25] X-Archive-Number: 200307/23 X-Sequence-Number: 3453 Check your backslashes vs. frontslashes in the alias. Since you moved/migrated from one server or OS to another, make sure your numeric UID and GID for majordomo are the same as they were, or you will have to recompile the wrapper. Also, since there is a change of machines or operating systems, you need to make sure perl is in the same location, or you will need to adjust the first line of every script in the majordomo directory. It is usually easier to just put a link to perl in the location majordomo is expecting to use, so you do not miss any of the scripts by accident. Have you executed the ./wrapper config-test as root, majordomo, and as "some other" user? Dan Liston Dr. Tim wrote: > It is getting real odd here. > > I have 1.94.5 majordomo. Freebsd 4.4 > > I have very very carefully restored old majordomo aliases and cf files > I have right now the following occuring after very very carefull retyping > the alias line that is appropriate. > > majordomo alias is "|\path\md\wrapper majordomo" > > This fails everytime with first in the maillog > that to:majordomo the message is set with mailer=relay and the message is > sent. > > Then right after the message is cloned. > Then the cloned message is sent to the majordomo pipe and it comes back > Operating system error. > > As I had said earlier I had tried to set up the access data base and relaying > but then I started having trouble with the majordomo address. > > I have check the alias file. ONLYONE MAJORDOMO alias > all the other aliases work, including our list alias for postint sending and digests. > ONLY majordomo (ie subscribe help etc...) is NOT working. > > ./wrapper config-test is just totally happy. > > I check early maillogs and what is strange is that it never recorded > this mail to majordomo delivered ok then cloned then piped. I am convinced > it has something to to with relaying but all those files I have restored and > no nada change. still get the error. If I run demime before the wrapper > it errors with EX_TEMPFAIL which means that sendmail returns something weird to > the demime program. > > I am about to write a procmail script to support sub/help/unsub if I can't > get this fixed and then rebuild the entire sucker from scratch but I really really > don't want to do that! > > ANYONE? > > Tim From majordomo-users-owner@greatcircle.com Sat Jul 5 16:44:58 2003 Received: from bluejay.mail.pas.earthlink.net (bluejay.mail.pas.earthlink.net [207.217.120.218]) by mycroft.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 49856196195 for ; Sat, 5 Jul 2003 16:44:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: from user-vcaum02.dsl.mindspring.com ([216.175.88.2] helo=queernet.org) by bluejay.mail.pas.earthlink.net with asmtp (TLSv1:RC4-MD5:128) (Exim 3.33 #1) id 19Ywi3-0000r6-00; Sat, 05 Jul 2003 16:44:51 -0700 Message-ID: <3F0762F6.201@queernet.org> Date: Sat, 05 Jul 2003 16:44:54 -0700 From: "Roger B.A. Klorese" User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.4) Gecko/20030624 X-Accept-Language: en, en-us, fr-be, fr-ca, fr-fr, fr-lu, fr-mc, fr-ch MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "Dr. Tim" Cc: majordomo-users@greatcircle.com Subject: Re: Stat:Operating system eror update References: <200307050032.h650WkAw002983@xrx-inc.com> <3F064B79.1040408@queernet.org> In-Reply-To: <3F064B79.1040408@queernet.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-ELNK-Trace: 95a5daa1092a4a38d780f4a490ca69564776905774d2ac4bab6d2583c01fe60afc0604197080361d350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c X-Archive-Number: 200307/24 X-Sequence-Number: 3454 Roger B.A. Klorese wrote: > Dr. Tim wrote: > >> I just got back after it failed for 4 days to delieve the message the >> following >> >> wrapper: Trying to exec /usr/local/majordomo-1.94.5/majordomo failed: >> No such fi >> le or directory >> >> which is interesting since it exists and there are no typo's there. >> >> > > But does your Perl exist at the location in the first line of > /usr/local/majordomo-1.94.5/majordomo? > And be especially careful that you didn't edit it or pass it through a Windows machine and have a literal ^M at the end of the first line. /usr/bin/perl and /usr/bin/perl^M are not the same. From majordomo-users-owner@greatcircle.com Sun Jul 6 09:23:00 2003 Received: from fed1mtao07.cox.net (fed1mtao07.cox.net [68.6.19.124]) by mycroft.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 48B5819646A for ; Sun, 6 Jul 2003 09:22:58 -0700 (PDT) Received: from FUGU ([68.101.113.95]) by fed1mtao07.cox.net (InterMail vM.5.01.04.05 201-253-122-122-105-20011231) with SMTP id <20030706162256.WZYO29962.fed1mtao07.cox.net@FUGU> for ; Sun, 6 Jul 2003 12:22:56 -0400 From: "Manny Tau" To: Subject: MajorCool on RaQ 550 Date: Sun, 6 Jul 2003 09:22:59 -0700 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Importance: Normal X-Archive-Number: 200307/25 X-Sequence-Number: 3455 Has anyone succesfully installed/have running MajorCool on a RaQ 550 webserver (Linux, apache, majordomo 1.94)? I've installed, but running into probs with the cgi wrapper I think... thnx for any assist, Manny From majordomo-users-owner@greatcircle.com Mon Jul 7 14:20:01 2003 Received: from [66.92.48.201] (dsl092-048-201.sfo2.dsl.speakeasy.net [66.92.48.201]) by mycroft.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 51DD5196E3D; Mon, 7 Jul 2003 14:19:59 -0700 (PDT) Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Sender: brent@mycroft.greatcircle.com Message-Id: In-Reply-To: References: Date: Mon, 7 Jul 2003 13:21:30 -0700 To: georgek@netwrx1.com From: Brent Chapman Subject: Re: (fwd) Re: (fwd) RE: Anyone use FreshAddress? Cc: majordomo-users@greatcircle.com, Daniel Liston , "Michael C. Berch" Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" X-Archive-Number: 200307/26 X-Sequence-Number: 3456 I've removed their link from the www.greatcircle.com/majordomo web page. Frankly, I had forgotten that the link was even there; thanks for reminding me. -Brent At 6:27 AM -0500 7/3/03, George Kasica wrote: >On Wed, 02 Jul 2003 16:16:59 -0500, Daniel Liston >wrote: > >Done! > > > >>You should post this to the majordomo-owner@greatcircle.com address so >>they can remove the link and promo for freshaddress from their site if >>this is the way freshaddress wants to support majordomo users/owners. >> >>Dan Liston >> >>George Kasica wrote: >> >>> On Tue, 1 Jul 2003 17:05:15 -0400, "Austin C. Bliss" >>> wrote: >>> >>>>George- >>>> >>>>I understand your frustration, as we were having a lot of frustration with >>>>the free majordomo plug-in too... the code had been written by one of our >>>>outside partners, and they were slow to offer support. Meanwhile, our >>>>technical people knew little about majordomo, and thus we were unable to >>>>offer any direct assistance. >>>> >>>>Ultimately, we decided to remove the free plug-in offer from our website & >>>>pull the service from our product line. FreshAddress, Inc. services >>>>hundreds of happy clients with large email lists, but we'll have >>>>to continue >>>>the search for products to allow smaller companies such as yours to take >>>>advantage of our "Build & Update Your Email List" services. >>>> >>>>Thanks for giving the service a whirl, and I apologize again for your >>>>negative experience. If you'd like, you can feel free to post any of this >>>>to the majordomo list, or contact me for any questions. >>>> >>>>Regards, >>>>Austin >>>> >>>>Austin Bliss >>>>President >>>>austin@freshaddress.com >>>>http://freshaddress.com/biz >>>> >>>> >>>>> >-----Original Message----- >>>>> >From: George Kasica >>>>> >Sent: Wednesday, June 11, 2003 9:07 AM >>>>> >To: Jason Jacobs >>>>> >Cc: majordomo-users@greatcircle.com >>>>> >Subject: Re: Anyone use FreshAddress? >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> >>On Tue, 10 Jun 2003 17:00:03 -0400, you wrote: >>>>> > >>>>> >>I'm just curious if anyone is using this product and how well you're >>>>> >satisfied with it. >>>>> >> >>>>> >>-j >>>>> >Tried it, got tons of user complaints about privacy and why I "sold" >>>>> >their addresses, plus it didn't work here after MONTHS of trying and >>>>> >support was very slow...days between a question and wrong answer. I'd >>>>> >avoid it. >>>>> >--------------------------------------- >>>>> >Don't you agree that it's worth every dollar you paid for it? >>>>> >>>>> Carl: >>>>> >>>>> I hope you're being funny, because it cost us a great deal of time and >>>>> as a result money here to mess with this program, not to mention the >>>>> customer complaints that resulted from it. >>>>> >>>>> Free or not, when a company is selling or providing a product and I >>>>> have a signed contract for support etc. I expect it to be at least >>>>> marginally honored. They wren't even close. >>>>> >>>>> I get more support for truly FREE and Open majordomo than I did for >>>>> this. >>>>> >>>>> George >>>>> >>>>> ===[George R. Kasica]=== +1 262 677 0766 >>>>> President +1 206 374 6482 FAX >>>>> Netwrx Consulting Inc. Jackson, WI USA >>>>> http://www.netwrx1.com >>>>> georgek@netwrx1.com >>>>> ICQ #12862186 >>>>> >>>> >> -- Brent Chapman Great Circle Associates, Inc. -- Silicon Valley's IT Infrastructure Experts http://www.greatcircle.com/ +1 650 962 0841 From majordomo-users-owner@greatcircle.com Wed Jul 9 06:07:23 2003 Received: from ealcatraz.com (rhea.webvis.net [202.157.145.2]) by mycroft.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 99B3B195A19 for ; Wed, 9 Jul 2003 06:07:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: from tr ([203.196.153.206]) by ealcatraz.com ; Wed, 09 Jul 2003 20:59:45 +0800 GMT From: "Harshul Nayak (ealcatraz)" To: Subject: restricting post to one user Date: Wed, 9 Jul 2003 18:39:07 -0000 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Importance: Normal X-Rcpt-To: X-Archive-Number: 200307/27 X-Sequence-Number: 3457 hello all, I have recently setup a maling list using majordomo, the setup consists of a dual processor red hat linux box majordomo version 1.94.5 scope: The need for this mailing list is to send mails to the group of people who have subscribed to it. Problem: Subscribed members should not be allowed to post message to the list. Only selected member (admin or equivalent) user should be able to post message. Other poeple subscribed to the list should only receive the mails posted. Members can unsubscribe automatically whenever they want. attempts: 1) failed to use successfully the restrict_post option. 2) tried aprroval option , but found it to be too cumbersome to approve each mail being submitted. Would be obliged if could get a nudge in the right direction. Thanks in anticipation. -regs Harshul Copyright © 2002 Sintelli http://www.sintelli.com ---------------------------------------------------------------- Where we love is home, home that our feet may leave, but not our hearts.|Oliver Wendell Holmes From majordomo-users-owner@greatcircle.com Wed Jul 9 06:54:09 2003 Received: from addr20.addr.com (addr20.addr.com [209.249.147.70]) by mycroft.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D697A1959E3 for ; Wed, 9 Jul 2003 06:53:55 -0700 (PDT) Received: from veronica ([4.5.97.123]) by addr20.addr.com (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) with SMTP id h69DrqYI046600; Wed, 9 Jul 2003 06:53:52 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <00c201c34621$c6591da0$6401a8c0@dslverizon.net> From: "Palace Theatre" To: "Harshul Nayak (ealcatraz)" , References: Subject: Re: restricting post to one user Date: Wed, 9 Jul 2003 06:55:35 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 X-Archive-Number: 200307/28 X-Sequence-Number: 3458 Set moderate to 'yes' in the config file, then allow your selected users to approve their own postings by using the form: Approved: as the first line of the body of their message. This bypasses the moderation loop and directly posts to the list. If ya don't have the password, the posting will bounce to the moderator for approval, where it can languish forever... or be deleted... or knitted into a scarf. Carla ----- Original Message ----- From: Harshul Nayak (ealcatraz) To: Sent: Wednesday, July 09, 2003 11:39 AM Subject: restricting post to one user > hello all, > > I have recently setup a maling list using majordomo, > the setup consists of a dual processor red hat linux box > majordomo version 1.94.5 > > scope: > The need for this mailing list is to send mails to the group of people who > have subscribed to it. > > Problem: > Subscribed members should not be allowed to post message to the list. > Only selected member (admin or equivalent) user should be able to post > message. > Other poeple subscribed to the list should only receive the mails posted. > Members can unsubscribe automatically whenever they want. > > attempts: > > 1) failed to use successfully the restrict_post option. > 2) tried aprroval option , but found it to be too cumbersome to approve > each mail being submitted. > > Would be obliged if could get a nudge in the right direction. > > Thanks in anticipation. > > -regs > Harshul > Copyright © 2002 Sintelli > http://www.sintelli.com > ---------------------------------------------------------------- > Where we love is home, home that our feet may leave, but not our > hearts.|Oliver Wendell Holmes > From majordomo-users-owner@greatcircle.com Wed Jul 9 07:25:01 2003 Received: from ealcatraz.com (rhea.webvis.net [202.157.145.2]) by mycroft.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2251A1959C5 for ; Wed, 9 Jul 2003 07:24:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: from tr ([203.196.153.206]) by ealcatraz.com ; Wed, 09 Jul 2003 22:17:08 +0800 GMT From: "Harshul Nayak (ealcatraz)" To: "Palace Theatre" , "Harshul Nayak (ealcatraz)" , Subject: Re: restricting post to one user Date: Wed, 9 Jul 2003 19:56:28 -0000 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) In-Reply-To: <00c201c34621$c6591da0$6401a8c0@dslverizon.net> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Importance: Normal X-Archive-Number: 200307/29 X-Sequence-Number: 3459 Dear Carla, thanks for the prompt reply, Since I wanted only one user to be allowed to post the message to the list , I created mailing-list.restrict file and added the user(user@emailaddress) in that file. changed the ownership of the file to that of the majordomo daemon. since moderate option was set to 'yes' in the config file, anyone posting was bounced to the moderator. So dumb of me. Hence, I switched off the moderator option and wallah! it's working. Hence, by default if anyone else tries to post to the list besides that of the user specified in the mailing-list.restrict file will be bounced to the mailing-list owner. Thanks, -harshul -----Original Message----- From: majordomo-users-owner@greatcircle.com [mailto:majordomo-users-owner@greatcircle.com]On Behalf Of Palace Theatre Sent: Wednesday, July 09, 2003 1:56 PM To: Harshul Nayak (ealcatraz); majordomo-users@greatcircle.com Subject: Re: restricting post to one user Set moderate to 'yes' in the config file, then allow your selected users to approve their own postings by using the form: Approved: as the first line of the body of their message. This bypasses the moderation loop and directly posts to the list. If ya don't have the password, the posting will bounce to the moderator for approval, where it can languish forever... or be deleted... or knitted into a scarf. Carla ----- Original Message ----- From: Harshul Nayak (ealcatraz) To: Sent: Wednesday, July 09, 2003 11:39 AM Subject: restricting post to one user > hello all, > > I have recently setup a maling list using majordomo, > the setup consists of a dual processor red hat linux box > majordomo version 1.94.5 > > scope: > The need for this mailing list is to send mails to the group of people who > have subscribed to it. > > Problem: > Subscribed members should not be allowed to post message to the list. > Only selected member (admin or equivalent) user should be able to post > message. > Other poeple subscribed to the list should only receive the mails posted. > Members can unsubscribe automatically whenever they want. > > attempts: > > 1) failed to use successfully the restrict_post option. > 2) tried aprroval option , but found it to be too cumbersome to approve > each mail being submitted. > > Would be obliged if could get a nudge in the right direction. > > Thanks in anticipation. > > -regs > Harshul > Copyright © 2002 Sintelli > http://www.sintelli.com > ---------------------------------------------------------------- > Where we love is home, home that our feet may leave, but not our > hearts.|Oliver Wendell Holmes > From majordomo-users-owner@greatcircle.com Thu Jul 10 09:28:17 2003 Received: from mail1.rrz.Uni-Koeln.DE (mail1.rrz.Uni-Koeln.DE [134.95.100.208]) by mycroft.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 12FC6196B88 for ; Thu, 10 Jul 2003 09:28:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: from blackbird.rrz.Uni-Koeln.DE (blackbird.rrz.Uni-Koeln.DE [134.95.128.24]) (authenticated as user a0643 bits=0) by mail1.rrz.Uni-Koeln.DE (8.12.9/8.12.8) with ESMTP id h6AGS2Mq016568 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NOT) for ; Thu, 10 Jul 2003 18:28:07 +0200 (MEST) Date: Thu, 10 Jul 2003 18:28:02 +0200 From: susan barnes To: majordomo-users@greatcircle.com Subject: Avoiding mailloops Message-ID: <149580000.1057854482@blackbird.rrz.Uni-Koeln.DE> X-Mailer: Mulberry/3.0.3 (SunOS/SPARC) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new X-Archive-Number: 200307/30 X-Sequence-Number: 3460 Greetings, Last night one of our majordomos got caught in a kind of mailloop, when someone tried to query majordomo using a sending address serviced by an autoresponder. Each Email hitting said account would trigger one of these We-will-answer-your-email-later messages, which caused majordomo to send its helpfile once again, which would trigger.... 3000 Mails and 30 MB later I stopped the loop using the Mailservers AccessDB. We use Majordomo 1.94.5 and sendmail 8.12.9/8.12.8 I am wondering if there is anything to avoid this situation? Things I thought about: Giving majordomos outgoing administrative mails a reply-to header pointing to majordomo-owner(I do not like that, for quite a few mailinglists are open+confirmed and half of the confirmation mails will then go to majordomo-owner) Incorporate another sanity-check, so mails with Return-Path: <> in their headers, do not get processed. It would be nice if majordomo could act similar to a (wellbehaved) vacation, sending out a Maximum of X messages to a single recipient and resetting the counter every hour or so. (All this should only affect the majordomo results mails, not the list traffic) Ideas anyone? Thank you for your input. Susan Barnes Susan Barnes Zentrum fuer Angewandte Informatik - Universitaetsweiter Service RRZK Universitaet zu Koeln / Cologne University - Tel:0221-478-5594 From majordomo-users-owner@greatcircle.com Thu Jul 10 12:23:18 2003 Received: from mta3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.9]) by mycroft.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 56A5D195AA6 for ; Thu, 10 Jul 2003 12:23:17 -0700 (PDT) Received: from asv20.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (asv20.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.174]) by mta3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.16 (built May 14 2003)) with ESMTP id <0HHT001LLPU8B9@mta3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net> for majordomo-users@greatcircle.com; Thu, 10 Jul 2003 15:22:57 -0400 (EDT) Received: from magnatechonline.com (ool-182eda88.dyn.optonline.net [24.46.218.136]) by asv20.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (8.12.9/8.12.9) with SMTP id h6AJLc6u006220 for ; Thu, 10 Jul 2003 15:21:39 -0400 (EDT) Received: from tech1 by magnatechonline.com with smtp id aa04411 for ; Thu, 10 Jul 2003 15:22:12 -0400 (EDT) Date: Thu, 10 Jul 2003 15:30:12 -0400 From: Michael Arena Subject: Exim/Majordomo To: majordomo-users@greatcircle.com Message-id: <000701c34719$ae9ec0e0$0f01a8c0@magnatechonline.com> X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-priority: Normal X-Archive-Number: 200307/31 X-Sequence-Number: 3461 Hello all, I have majordomo installed on RH 7.2(via an rpm) and am trying to get it working with Exim 4.01-1. Can someone send me a copy of their Exim configuration file so I can see what entries to make for this to work. I've followed a few tutorials online and still can't get it working. Any help is greatly appreciated. thanks, Mike marena@magnatechonline.com From majordomo-users-owner@greatcircle.com Thu Jul 10 14:54:30 2003 Received: from scanmail1.cableone.net (scanmail1.cableone.net [24.116.0.121]) by mycroft.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7C162195AB3 for ; Thu, 10 Jul 2003 14:54:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: from scanmail1.cableone.net ([10.116.0.121]) by scanmail1.cableone.net with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1877.687.68); Thu, 10 Jul 2003 14:53:48 -0700 Received: from scanmail1.cableone.net [24.116.0.121] by scanmail1.cableone.net (SMTPD32-7.04) id A06848360102; Thu, 10 Jul 2003 14:53:47 -0700 Received: from sonny.com (24-116-58-25.cpe.cableone.net [24.116.58.25]) by mail.cableone.net with SMTP (MailShield v2.04 - WIN32 Jul 17 2001 17:12:42); Thu, 10 Jul 2003 14:53:47 -0600 Received: from sonny.org (dad.liston.nu [192.168.1.60]) by sonny.com (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id h6ALsMNn010270; Thu, 10 Jul 2003 16:54:22 -0500 Message-ID: <3F0DE118.6070109@sonny.org> Date: Thu, 10 Jul 2003 16:56:40 -0500 From: Daniel Liston User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.4) Gecko/20030624 Netscape/7.1 (ax) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: susan barnes Cc: majordomo-users@greatcircle.com Subject: Re: Avoiding mailloops References: <149580000.1057854482@blackbird.rrz.Uni-Koeln.DE> In-Reply-To: <149580000.1057854482@blackbird.rrz.Uni-Koeln.DE> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-SMTP-HELO: sonny.com X-SMTP-MAIL-FROM: dliston@sonny.org X-SMTP-PEER-INFO: 24-116-58-25.cpe.cableone.net [24.116.58.25] X-Archive-Number: 200307/32 X-Sequence-Number: 3462 It is local policy here, that anyone creating this kind of loop be removed and blacklisted from subscribing to any of our lists for a period of one year. Idle threat, considering how easy it is to get and use a different address, but our point gets made. Considering the query may not have even been from a subscriber, this could be considered a weak DOS attack on your system. You might consider leaving the user or their domain listed in your access.db file. Take a look at your majordomo.cf file. Down at the bottom is a majordomo_dont_reply variable that does what it's name says. You might also want to consider a global_taboo_headers expression to bounce null senders to the majordomo-owner without being responded to. Using your own example, the expression would look like this; /^Return-Path: <>/i I would really like to study a sample of the 3000 messages before I could offer anything better. Are they all identical, with the exception of date/time stamps? Dan Liston susan barnes wrote: > Greetings, > > Last night one of our majordomos got caught in a kind of mailloop, when someone tried to query majordomo using a sending address serviced by an autoresponder. > > Each Email hitting said account would trigger one of these We-will-answer-your-email-later messages, which caused majordomo to send its helpfile once again, which would trigger.... > > 3000 Mails and 30 MB later I stopped the loop using the Mailservers AccessDB. > > > We use Majordomo 1.94.5 and sendmail 8.12.9/8.12.8 > > > I am wondering if there is anything to avoid this situation? > > Things I thought about: > > Giving majordomos outgoing administrative mails a reply-to header pointing to majordomo-owner(I do not like that, for quite a few mailinglists are open+confirmed and half of the confirmation mails will then go to majordomo-owner) > > Incorporate another sanity-check, so mails with > Return-Path: <> > in their headers, do not get processed. > > It would be nice if majordomo could act similar to a (wellbehaved) vacation, sending out a Maximum of X messages to a single recipient and resetting the counter every hour or so. > > (All this should only affect the majordomo results mails, not the list traffic) > > > Ideas anyone? > > Thank you for your input. > > > Susan Barnes > > > Susan Barnes > Zentrum fuer Angewandte Informatik - Universitaetsweiter Service RRZK > Universitaet zu Koeln / Cologne University - Tel:0221-478-5594 From majordomo-users-owner@greatcircle.com Thu Jul 10 15:35:45 2003 Received: from scanmail1.cableone.net (scanmail1.cableone.net [24.116.0.121]) by mycroft.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B6B52195ABF for ; Thu, 10 Jul 2003 15:35:41 -0700 (PDT) Received: from scanmail1.cableone.net ([10.116.0.121]) by scanmail1.cableone.net with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1877.687.68); Thu, 10 Jul 2003 15:35:05 -0700 Received: from scanmail1.cableone.net [24.116.0.121] by scanmail1.cableone.net (SMTPD32-7.04) id AA15FC60142; Thu, 10 Jul 2003 15:35:04 -0700 Received: from sonny.com (24-116-58-25.cpe.cableone.net [24.116.58.25]) by mail.cableone.net with SMTP (MailShield v2.04 - WIN32 Jul 17 2001 17:12:42); Thu, 10 Jul 2003 15:35:04 -0600 Received: from sonny.org (dad.liston.nu [192.168.1.60]) by sonny.com (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id h6AMZfNn010456; Thu, 10 Jul 2003 17:35:41 -0500 Message-ID: <3F0DEAC6.3010903@sonny.org> Date: Thu, 10 Jul 2003 17:37:58 -0500 From: Daniel Liston User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.4) Gecko/20030624 Netscape/7.1 (ax) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Michael Arena Cc: majordomo-users@greatcircle.com Subject: Re: Exim/Majordomo References: <000701c34719$ae9ec0e0$0f01a8c0@magnatechonline.com> In-Reply-To: <000701c34719$ae9ec0e0$0f01a8c0@magnatechonline.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-SMTP-HELO: sonny.com X-SMTP-MAIL-FROM: dliston@sonny.org X-SMTP-PEER-INFO: 24-116-58-25.cpe.cableone.net [24.116.58.25] X-Archive-Number: 200307/33 X-Sequence-Number: 3463 Are you sure your Exim is working without majordomo? Are aliases working? Are :include: files working from the aliases file? Can you pipe to a program or script from an alias successfully. If not, what are the dependencies to make them work? This will put you on the right track for getting majordomo to work. I had posted some "gathered" information on exim about a year ago but I am not sure it still applies to newer releases. Which RPM did you use? The one for redhat is not identical to the ones for other flavors of linux. Please do not use any RPM version older than majordomo-1.94.5-2. The most recent bundle for redhat is on the powertools update CD for redhat 6.1 ftp://ftp.redhat.com/pub/redhat/linux/updates/6.1/en/powertools/i386/majordomo-1.94.5-2.i386.rpm Have you looked through the archives for messages with exim in the subject? There were some discusstion for older versions in 2/00, 5/01, 6/02, and 5/03. Richard Welty has an awesome page on the topic at http://www.averillpark.net/exim/majordomo.html Dan Liston Michael Arena wrote: > Hello all, > I have majordomo installed on RH 7.2(via an rpm) and am trying to get it > working with Exim 4.01-1. Can someone send me a copy of their Exim > configuration file so I can see what entries to make for this to work. I've > followed a few tutorials online and still can't get it working. Any help is > greatly appreciated. > > thanks, > Mike > marena@magnatechonline.com > > > From majordomo-users-owner@greatcircle.com Thu Jul 10 15:44:10 2003 Received: from smtp02.wlv.untd.com (smtp02.wlv.untd.com [209.247.163.58]) by mycroft.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with SMTP id 1ED9F195F9C for ; Thu, 10 Jul 2003 15:44:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 15678 invoked from network); 10 Jul 2003 22:44:00 -0000 Received: from 01-042.033.popsite.net (HELO netzero.net) (66.19.76.42) by smtp02.wlv.untd.com with SMTP; 10 Jul 2003 22:44:00 -0000 Message-ID: <3F0DEC2B.1070907@netzero.net> Date: Thu, 10 Jul 2003 18:43:55 -0400 From: Kirk Bailey Organization: Silas Dent Memorial Cabal of ERIS Esoteric and hot dog boiling society User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win98; en-US; rv:1.0.1) Gecko/20020823 Netscape/7.0 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Daniel Liston , majordomo-users@greatcircle.com Subject: Re: Avoiding mailloops References: <149580000.1057854482@blackbird.rrz.Uni-Koeln.DE> <3F0DE118.6070109@sonny.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Archive-Number: 200307/34 X-Sequence-Number: 3464 I had a relevant issue with a subscriber to one of my lists. I sent a message to the account, and it generated an 'out of office until' message-classic vacation program. This address is subscribed to one of my lists, and I grew concerned. When I wrote the Email post time module for TinyList, I knew of such things asd autoreply program wars, and included several headers to help break them- and testing FOR them. Well, now I was concerned. So late that night, I intentionally created a (now deceased) testlist, and crosscoupled it with another (still existing) testing list- and posted a message, insuring first that they were subscribed to one another. I did this while logged in with a ssh program to the server so I could kill anything that desperately needed an early grave. Although my initial message was processed on the first list fine, it did not appear on the second list- nor anything else. I then posted one to the second list, and nothing else came out on it or the first list. Although withought a doubt they were addressing one another, and subcrribed to one another, NOTHING HAPPENED. Both lists worked, both were subscribed one to the other, and neither would accept posts from the other. The header testing and rejecting was breaking an intentionally built list loop reliably. Now I would NOT reccomend such a drastic test to anyone else, as it has such a wonderful chance at crashing a server in jig time. But I thought the report of such a risky experiment would be of intrest to this thread. Does the new majordomo do such header filtering and rejecting? Daniel Liston wrote: > It is local policy here, that anyone creating this kind of loop > be removed and blacklisted from subscribing to any of our lists > for a period of one year. Idle threat, considering how easy it > is to get and use a different address, but our point gets made. > > Considering the query may not have even been from a subscriber, > this could be considered a weak DOS attack on your system. You > might consider leaving the user or their domain listed in your > access.db file. > > Take a look at your majordomo.cf file. Down at the bottom is a > majordomo_dont_reply variable that does what it's name says. You > might also want to consider a global_taboo_headers expression to > bounce null senders to the majordomo-owner without being responded > to. Using your own example, the expression would look like this; > > /^Return-Path: <>/i > > I would really like to study a sample of the 3000 messages before > I could offer anything better. Are they all identical, with the > exception of date/time stamps? > > Dan Liston > > susan barnes wrote: > >> Greetings, >> >> Last night one of our majordomos got caught in a kind of mailloop, >> when someone tried to query majordomo using a sending address serviced >> by an autoresponder. >> >> Each Email hitting said account would trigger one of these >> We-will-answer-your-email-later messages, which caused majordomo to >> send its helpfile once again, which would trigger.... >> >> 3000 Mails and 30 MB later I stopped the loop using the Mailservers >> AccessDB. >> >> >> We use Majordomo 1.94.5 and sendmail 8.12.9/8.12.8 >> >> >> I am wondering if there is anything to avoid this situation? >> >> Things I thought about: >> >> Giving majordomos outgoing administrative mails a reply-to header >> pointing to majordomo-owner(I do not like that, for quite a few >> mailinglists are open+confirmed and half of the confirmation mails >> will then go to majordomo-owner) >> >> Incorporate another sanity-check, so mails with >> Return-Path: <> >> in their headers, do not get processed. >> >> It would be nice if majordomo could act similar to a (wellbehaved) >> vacation, sending out a Maximum of X messages to a single recipient >> and resetting the counter every hour or so. >> >> (All this should only affect the majordomo results mails, not the list >> traffic) >> >> >> Ideas anyone? >> >> Thank you for your input. >> >> >> Susan Barnes >> >> >> Susan Barnes >> Zentrum fuer Angewandte Informatik - Universitaetsweiter Service RRZK >> Universitaet zu Koeln / Cologne University - Tel:0221-478-5594 > > > > -- end Cheers! Kirk D Bailey think http://www.howlermonkey.net/ +-----+ http://www.tinylist.org/ http://www.listville.net/ | BOX | http://www.sacredelectron.org/ +-----+ "Thou art free"-ERIS think 'Got a light?'-Promethieus Fnord. From majordomo-users-owner@greatcircle.com Thu Jul 10 15:47:29 2003 Received: from smtp02.wlv.untd.com (smtp02.wlv.untd.com [209.247.163.58]) by mycroft.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with SMTP id 50D4D19621A for ; Thu, 10 Jul 2003 15:46:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 17885 invoked from network); 10 Jul 2003 22:46:43 -0000 Received: from 01-042.033.popsite.net (HELO netzero.net) (66.19.76.42) by smtp02.wlv.untd.com with SMTP; 10 Jul 2003 22:46:43 -0000 Message-ID: <3F0DECCE.7040308@netzero.net> Date: Thu, 10 Jul 2003 18:46:38 -0400 From: Kirk Bailey Organization: Silas Dent Memorial Cabal of ERIS Esoteric and hot dog boiling society User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win98; en-US; rv:1.0.1) Gecko/20020823 Netscape/7.0 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: susan barnes Cc: majordomo-users@greatcircle.com Subject: Re: Avoiding mailloops References: <149580000.1057854482@blackbird.rrz.Uni-Koeln.DE> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Archive-Number: 200307/35 X-Sequence-Number: 3465 Susan, did you save any? could I see the headers please? susan barnes wrote: > Greetings, > > Last night one of our majordomos got caught in a kind of mailloop, when > someone tried to query majordomo using a sending address serviced by an > autoresponder. > > Each Email hitting said account would trigger one of these > We-will-answer-your-email-later messages, which caused majordomo to send > its helpfile once again, which would trigger.... > > 3000 Mails and 30 MB later I stopped the loop using the Mailservers > AccessDB. > > > We use Majordomo 1.94.5 and sendmail 8.12.9/8.12.8 > > > I am wondering if there is anything to avoid this situation? > > Things I thought about: > > Giving majordomos outgoing administrative mails a reply-to header > pointing to majordomo-owner(I do not like that, for quite a few > mailinglists are open+confirmed and half of the confirmation mails will > then go to majordomo-owner) > > Incorporate another sanity-check, so mails with > Return-Path: <> > in their headers, do not get processed. > > It would be nice if majordomo could act similar to a (wellbehaved) > vacation, sending out a Maximum of X messages to a single recipient and > resetting the counter every hour or so. > > (All this should only affect the majordomo results mails, not the list > traffic) > > > Ideas anyone? > > Thank you for your input. > > > Susan Barnes > > > Susan Barnes > Zentrum fuer Angewandte Informatik - Universitaetsweiter Service RRZK > Universitaet zu Koeln / Cologne University - Tel:0221-478-5594 > -- end Cheers! Kirk D Bailey think http://www.howlermonkey.net/ +-----+ http://www.tinylist.org/ http://www.listville.net/ | BOX | http://www.sacredelectron.org/ +-----+ "Thou art free"-ERIS think 'Got a light?'-Promethieus Fnord. From majordomo-users-owner@greatcircle.com Fri Jul 11 04:34:21 2003 Received: from mail1.rrz.Uni-Koeln.DE (mail1.rrz.Uni-Koeln.DE [134.95.100.208]) by mycroft.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id F268C196119 for ; Fri, 11 Jul 2003 04:34:17 -0700 (PDT) Received: from blackbird.rrz.Uni-Koeln.DE (blackbird.rrz.Uni-Koeln.DE [134.95.128.24]) (authenticated as user a0643 bits=0) by mail1.rrz.Uni-Koeln.DE (8.12.9/8.12.8) with ESMTP id h6BBYDMq002938 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NOT); Fri, 11 Jul 2003 13:34:15 +0200 (MEST) Date: Fri, 11 Jul 2003 13:34:13 +0200 From: susan barnes To: majordomo-users@greatcircle.com Cc: Daniel Liston Subject: Re: Avoiding mailloops Message-ID: <444010000.1057923253@blackbird.rrz.Uni-Koeln.DE> In-Reply-To: <3F0DE118.6070109@sonny.org> References: <149580000.1057854482@blackbird.rrz.Uni-Koeln.DE> <3F0DE118.6070109@sonny.org> X-Mailer: Mulberry/3.0.3 (SunOS/SPARC) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new X-Spam-Report: IN_REP_TO,MIME_LONG_LINE_QP,QUOTED_EMAIL_TEXT,REFERENCES,REPLY_WITH_QUOTES X-Archive-Number: 200307/36 X-Sequence-Number: 3466 --On Thursday, July 10, 2003 04:56:40 PM -0500 Daniel Liston wrote: Hello, > It is local policy here, that anyone creating this kind of loop > be removed and blacklisted from subscribing to any of our lists > for a period of one year. Idle threat, considering how easy it > is to get and use a different address, but our point gets made. Well, we did track the person down who started the loop and she was somewha= t technically challenged, not doing it on purpose. (Given that we sent a few thousand emails to their info@ address on two sep= arate occasions and nobody contacted us to find out what is going on, I wou= ld guess the above applies to the whole company/domain.) Just to clarify, the loop was started by a simple subscribe to majordomo, a= nd the subsequent sending of help-files and autoresponder messages. So no m= ailinglist was involved at that point. > Considering the query may not have even been from a subscriber, > this could be considered a weak DOS attack on your system. You > might consider leaving the user or their domain listed in your > access.db file. It is more like a DOS Attack on both of our systems. I have told the other side, to exclude majordomo, listserv etc. from autore= sponder replys and set a reply-to Header. However our majordomo does more or less the same thing, when triggerd this = way. So a third party could deliberatly cause a DOS-Attack on two systems w= ith one simple email. I am sure there are other people, who run autoresponders like this. > Take a look at your majordomo.cf file. Down at the bottom is a > majordomo_dont_reply variable that does what it's name says. You > might also want to consider a global_taboo_headers expression to > bounce null senders to the majordomo-owner without being responded > to. Using your own example, the expression would look like this; > > /^Return-Path: <>/i This has been suggested, but taboo-headers do only work if the mails go via= resend to an actual mailinglist, or am I wrong? I have added their address into $majordomo_dont_reply, but that is no gener= al solution. > I would really like to study a sample of the 3000 messages before > I could offer anything better. Are they all identical, with the > exception of date/time stamps? Yes they are just basically confirmation messages. They do not quote any pa= rt of the original mail.(see below, if you want one for yourself ask info@h= ood.de). I am not really looking for a solution for this specific case, but to gener= ally avoid such incidents. I think it would be much better if there was a h= ard limit on how many helpfiles majordomo would send to one specific addres= s, after which any further requests are dropped for a while. Regards and thanks for your input Susan Barnes FYI This is the full autoresponder mail: (Return-Path is not empty because I have requested the autoreply to postmas= ter, the original envelope-sender was <>) Return-Path: Received: from cyrus.rrz.uni-koeln.de ([unix socket]) by cyrus.rrz.uni-koeln.de (Cyrus v2.1.12-Invoca-RPM-2.1.12-3) with LMTP; T= hu, 10 Jul 2003 01:07:04 +0200 X-Sieve: CMU Sieve 2.2 Received: from smtp-out.rrz.uni-koeln.de (smtp-out.rrz.uni-koeln.de [134.95= .19.53]) by cyrus.rrz.uni-koeln.de (8.12.9/8.12.8) with ESMTP id h69N735k024870 (version=3DTLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=3DEDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=3D168 verify=3DN= O); Thu, 10 Jul 2003 01:07:03 +0200 Received: from mail1.rrz.Uni-Koeln.DE (mail1.rrz.uni-koeln.de [134.95.100.2= 08]) by smtp-out.rrz.uni-koeln.de (8.12.9/8.12.8) with ESMTP id h69N726W024867; Thu, 10 Jul 2003 01:07:02 +0200 Received: from lima01.sserv.de (lima01.sserv.de [217.175.237.250]) by mail1.rrz.Uni-Koeln.DE (8.12.9/8.12.8) with ESMTP id h69N71Mp001594 for ; Thu, 10 Jul 2003 01:07:01 +0200 (MEST) Received: from courier by lima01.sserv.de (Exim 3.22) with local for id 19aO1Z-0000Pg-00; Thu, 10 Jul 2003 01:06:57 +0200 From: info@hood.de To: postmaster@rrz.uni-koeln.de Subject: Ihre Anfrage an das Hood.de Support-Team In-Reply-To: X-Mail3Admin: Vacation-Autoreply Message-Id: Sender: Date: Thu, 10 Jul 2003 01:06:57 +0200 X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new X-Spam-Report: IN_REP_TO,NO_REAL_NAME X-Spam-Report: IN_REP_TO,NO_REAL_NAME Liebe/r Hood.de Nutzer/in, Ihre Email ist bei uns eingegangen und wird baldm=F6glichst bearbeitet. 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Ihr Hood.de Support-Team Regards Susan Barnes Susan Barnes Zentrum fuer Angewandte Informatik - Universitaetsweiter Service RRZK Universitaet zu Koeln / Cologne University - Tel:0221-478-5594 From majordomo-users-owner@greatcircle.com Fri Jul 11 14:12:49 2003 Received: from scanmail1.cableone.net (scanmail1.cableone.net [24.116.0.121]) by mycroft.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 99791196D3B for ; Fri, 11 Jul 2003 14:12:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: from scanmail1.cableone.net ([10.116.0.121]) by scanmail1.cableone.net with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1877.687.68); Fri, 11 Jul 2003 14:12:07 -0700 Received: from scanmail1.cableone.net [24.116.0.121] by scanmail1.cableone.net (SMTPD32-7.04) id A8276080148; Fri, 11 Jul 2003 14:12:07 -0700 Received: from sonny.com (24-116-58-25.cpe.cableone.net [24.116.58.25]) by mail.cableone.net with SMTP (MailShield v2.04 - WIN32 Jul 17 2001 17:12:42); Fri, 11 Jul 2003 14:12:06 -0600 Received: from sonny.org (dad.liston.nu [192.168.1.60]) by sonny.com (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id h6BLCoNn016971; Fri, 11 Jul 2003 16:12:50 -0500 Message-ID: <3F0F28D8.2060008@sonny.org> Date: Fri, 11 Jul 2003 16:15:04 -0500 From: Daniel Liston User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.4) Gecko/20030624 Netscape/7.1 (ax) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: susan barnes Cc: majordomo-users@greatcircle.com Subject: Re: Avoiding mailloops References: <149580000.1057854482@blackbird.rrz.Uni-Koeln.DE> <3F0DE118.6070109@sonny.org> <444010000.1057923253@blackbird.rrz.Uni-Koeln.DE> In-Reply-To: <444010000.1057923253@blackbird.rrz.Uni-Koeln.DE> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-SMTP-HELO: sonny.com X-SMTP-MAIL-FROM: dliston@sonny.org X-SMTP-PEER-INFO: 24-116-58-25.cpe.cableone.net [24.116.58.25] X-Archive-Number: 200307/37 X-Sequence-Number: 3467 Hi, susan barnes wrote: > --On Thursday, July 10, 2003 04:56:40 PM -0500 Daniel Liston wrote: > > Hello, > >> It is local policy here, that anyone creating this kind of loop >> be removed and blacklisted from subscribing to any of our lists >> for a period of one year. Idle threat, considering how easy it >> is to get and use a different address, but our point gets made. Let me first add that when I said "here", I mean sonny.org, not greatcircle.com. I have been supporting majordomo for so long that people are assuming I am somehow associated with it's authors. > > Well, we did track the person down who started the loop and she was somewhat technically challenged, not doing it on purpose. Ignorance is no excuse, as until they become educated, they are likely doing the same stupid things to many others, not just you. > (Given that we sent a few thousand emails to their info@ address on two separate occasions and nobody contacted us to find out what is going on, I would guess the above applies to the whole company/domain.) The info@ address is only an RFC suggestion, not a requirement. Even with that, the RFCs may be ignored. The info@ address could easily be going to /dev/null. Since I do not operate a business, my info@ address returns an error:User unknown. In MANY cases the info@ address is an alias to a script that sends a canned message with no checking of Return-Path, Precedence, or other anti-looping safety measures. > > Just to clarify, the loop was started by a simple subscribe to majordomo, and the subsequent sending of help-files and autoresponder messages. So no mailinglist was involved at that point. > So the other side of the request had an auto-responder "while" the address was being used interactively? No problem, until they interact with automated processes. Then they become danerous. > >> Considering the query may not have even been from a subscriber, >> this could be considered a weak DOS attack on your system. You >> might consider leaving the user or their domain listed in your >> access.db file. > > It is more like a DOS Attack on both of our systems. > I have told the other side, to exclude majordomo, listserv etc. from autoresponder replys and set a reply-to Header. What is the "other side" running as an autoresponder? Does the autoresponder generate a new message, or include headers and body of the message being responded to? > > However our majordomo does more or less the same thing, when triggerd this way. So a third party could deliberatly cause a DOS-Attack on two systems with one simple email. > > I am sure there are other people, who run autoresponders like this. > Majordomo has "some" safety built-in against these kind of mail loops but with new software (some from programmers without a clue), it is up to us to keep updating our protection and configurations. No vacation, auto-reply, or intelligent autoresponder is supposed to reply to a message with "Precedence: bulk" or "Precedence: junk" in the headers. In this case, "list" should be synonymous with "bulk". Nor are they supposed to respond to messages from Postmaster, MAILER, MAILER-DAEMON, UUCP, or -REQUEST. > >> Take a look at your majordomo.cf file. Down at the bottom is a >> majordomo_dont_reply variable that does what it's name says. You >> might also want to consider a global_taboo_headers expression to >> bounce null senders to the majordomo-owner without being responded >> to. Using your own example, the expression would look like this; >> >> /^Return-Path: <>/i > I see another (unique?) header to list in this case anyway; /^X-Mail3Admin: Vacation-Autoreply/i > > This has been suggested, but taboo-headers do only work if the mails go via resend to an actual mailinglist, or am I wrong? I have to dig into the majordomo and majordomo.pl scripts to see if this is true. I always "assumed" that GLOBAL taboo expressions in the majordomo.cf file would work for mail coming to majordomo as well. Otherwise you are correct in regards to individual listname.config files use of the taboo_* settings depending on resend. > I have added their address into $majordomo_dont_reply, but that is no general solution. Does this mean you added "info" to the array? Here are some more that I recommend majordomo should not respond to; $majordomo_dont_reply = '(mailer-daemon|uucp|listserv|majordomo|listproc|autoreply|(post|host|web)master|usenet|news|ftp|www|noc|abuse|security|info|sales|support|marketing)\@'; Anything that is or can be considered a "Role" account or has the potential to be automated should be listed in the dont_reply array. > >> I would really like to study a sample of the 3000 messages before >> I could offer anything better. Are they all identical, with the >> exception of date/time stamps? > > Yes they are just basically confirmation messages. They do not quote any part of the original mail.(see below, if you want one for yourself ask info@hood.de). > > I am not really looking for a solution for this specific case, but to generally avoid such incidents. I think it would be much better if there was a hard limit on how many helpfiles majordomo would send to one specific address, after which any further requests are dropped for a while. > The above should help, but as long as majordomo is willing by design to reply to "almost" anyone, the potential will always exist for a loop. To make matters worse, when autoresponders do not include any of the original headers, you can not even protect yourself with a customized header like "X-Loop: majordomo@your.domain". I hope my comments and suggestions shine some light on the situation, Dan Liston > > Regards and thanks for your input > Susan Barnes > > FYI > This is the full autoresponder mail: > (Return-Path is not empty because I have requested the autoreply to postmaster, the original envelope-sender was <>) > > Return-Path: > Received: from cyrus.rrz.uni-koeln.de ([unix socket]) > by cyrus.rrz.uni-koeln.de (Cyrus v2.1.12-Invoca-RPM-2.1.12-3) with LMTP; Thu, 10 Jul 2003 01:07:04 +0200 > X-Sieve: CMU Sieve 2.2 > Received: from smtp-out.rrz.uni-koeln.de (smtp-out.rrz.uni-koeln.de [134.95.19.53]) > by cyrus.rrz.uni-koeln.de (8.12.9/8.12.8) with ESMTP id h69N735k024870 > (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NO); > Thu, 10 Jul 2003 01:07:03 +0200 > Received: from mail1.rrz.Uni-Koeln.DE (mail1.rrz.uni-koeln.de [134.95.100.208]) > by smtp-out.rrz.uni-koeln.de (8.12.9/8.12.8) with ESMTP id h69N726W024867; > Thu, 10 Jul 2003 01:07:02 +0200 > Received: from lima01.sserv.de (lima01.sserv.de [217.175.237.250]) > by mail1.rrz.Uni-Koeln.DE (8.12.9/8.12.8) with ESMTP id h69N71Mp001594 > for ; Thu, 10 Jul 2003 01:07:01 +0200 (MEST) > Received: from courier by lima01.sserv.de (Exim 3.22) with local > for > id 19aO1Z-0000Pg-00; Thu, 10 Jul 2003 01:06:57 +0200 > From: info@hood.de > To: postmaster@rrz.uni-koeln.de > Subject: Ihre Anfrage an das Hood.de Support-Team > In-Reply-To: > X-Mail3Admin: Vacation-Autoreply > Message-Id: > Sender: > Date: Thu, 10 Jul 2003 01:06:57 +0200 From majordomo-users-owner@greatcircle.com Fri Jul 11 14:25:35 2003 Received: from scanmail1.cableone.net (scanmail1.cableone.net [24.116.0.121]) by mycroft.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 51C811964F7 for ; Fri, 11 Jul 2003 14:25:33 -0700 (PDT) Received: from scanmail1.cableone.net ([10.116.0.121]) by scanmail1.cableone.net with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1877.687.68); Fri, 11 Jul 2003 14:24:54 -0700 Received: from scanmail1.cableone.net [24.116.0.121] by scanmail1.cableone.net (SMTPD32-7.04) id AB26C170136; Fri, 11 Jul 2003 14:24:54 -0700 Received: from sonny.com (24-116-58-25.cpe.cableone.net [24.116.58.25]) by mail.cableone.net with SMTP (MailShield v2.04 - WIN32 Jul 17 2001 17:12:42); Fri, 11 Jul 2003 14:24:53 -0600 Received: from sonny.org (dad.liston.nu [192.168.1.60]) by sonny.com (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id h6BLPaNn017062; Fri, 11 Jul 2003 16:25:38 -0500 Message-ID: <3F0F2BD6.8020803@sonny.org> Date: Fri, 11 Jul 2003 16:27:50 -0500 From: Daniel Liston User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.4) Gecko/20030624 Netscape/7.1 (ax) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Michael Arena , Majordomo-users Subject: Re: Exim/Majordomo References: <001c01c347b3$6b1badc0$0f01a8c0@magnatechonline.com> In-Reply-To: <001c01c347b3$6b1badc0$0f01a8c0@magnatechonline.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-SMTP-HELO: sonny.com X-SMTP-MAIL-FROM: dliston@sonny.org X-SMTP-PEER-INFO: 24-116-58-25.cpe.cableone.net [24.116.58.25] X-Archive-Number: 200307/38 X-Sequence-Number: 3468 Try this url for an rpm that is less than 17 years old. It is the file I downloaded from the URL I posted earlier. http://web.sonny.org/majordomo/majordomo-1.94.5-2.i386.rpm Here is another instructional URL that may help with Exim; http://www.mars-attacks.org/~boklm/browse/doc/majordomo/ The differences in the aliases using the RPM instead of the tarball and compile install are directory references. Anywhere you see /usr/local/majordomo/wrapper, use /usr/lib/majordomo/wrapper instead. In the case of lists, archives, digests, or :include: files, use /var/lib/majordomo. Dan Liston Michael Arena wrote: > Daniel, > Thanks for the speedy response. > > I'm sure Exim is working without majordomo, we use it as our mail server and > I know it's working. > > As for aliases, that was my problem, I'm not quite sure how to setup aliases > to work with Majordomo, and i'm sort of new to using Exim. I'm reading a > book on the topic but getting around the Exim config file is a little > confusing at first. How can I test aliases? Do you use Exim to deploy your > Majordomo lists? If so could you send me a copy of your config file with > just the additions you made for Majordomo, sometimes it helps me learn > better if I see what someone else did. > > The RPM I used was "majordomo-1.94.4-7.i386.rpm" off rpmfind.net, I tried to > get the one you linked to but the link seems to be dead. > > I will check the archives for messages on this topic, and I did try using > the tutorial from Richard but to no avail, that's why I decided to make a > post on this list. > > Thanks for all your help, > Mike > From majordomo-users-owner@greatcircle.com Fri Jul 11 16:34:56 2003 Received: from mail1.rrz.Uni-Koeln.DE (mail1.rrz.Uni-Koeln.DE [134.95.100.208]) by mycroft.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D0E49196564 for ; Fri, 11 Jul 2003 16:34:53 -0700 (PDT) Received: from uni-koeln.de (pD9511DC0.dip.t-dialin.net [217.81.29.192]) (authenticated as user a0643 bits=0) by mail1.rrz.Uni-Koeln.DE (8.12.9/8.12.8) with ESMTP id h6BNYmMq011889 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NOT); Sat, 12 Jul 2003 01:34:50 +0200 (MEST) Date: Sat, 12 Jul 2003 01:35:47 +0200 Subject: Re: Avoiding mailloops Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v552) Cc: majordomo-users@greatcircle.com To: Daniel Liston From: "s. barnes" In-Reply-To: <3F0F28D8.2060008@sonny.org> Message-Id: <65FB6AD3-B3F8-11D7-ADD6-000393B012AA@uni-koeln.de> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.552) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new X-Spam-Report: EMAIL_ATTRIBUTION,IN_REP_TO,QUOTED_EMAIL_TEXT,REPLY_WITH_QUOTES,USER_AGENT_APPLEMAIL X-Archive-Number: 200307/39 X-Sequence-Number: 3469 On Friday, Jul 11, 2003, at 23:15 Europe/Berlin, Daniel Liston wrote: Hi, > susan barnes wrote: >> Well, we did track the person down who started the loop and she was >> somewhat technically challenged, not doing it on purpose. > > Ignorance is no excuse, as until they become educated, they are > likely doing the same stupid things to many others, not just you. I think I have given up on the becoming educated thing, I work for an university :-). >> (Given that we sent a few thousand emails to their info@ address on >> two separate occasions and nobody contacted us to find out what is >> going on, I would guess the above applies to the whole >> company/domain.) > > The info@ address is only an RFC suggestion, not a requirement. They use it, they list it as support-address and the culprit told me she had to delete those mails from the inbox. Besides, even if those mails went to /dev/null it should be noticed by someone. > So the other side of the request had an auto-responder "while" the > address was being used interactively? No problem, until they > interact with automated processes. Then they become danerous. Exactly, and while I did bitch about their autoresponder, majordomo is guilty of the same behaviour. I was hoping, that somebody had an out of the box solution. It never hurts to ask. > What is the "other side" running as an autoresponder? Does the > autoresponder generate a new message, or include headers and body > of the message being responded to? I do not dare to ask, I have told them to pass my advice on to whoever does their technical stuff. >> However our majordomo does more or less the same thing, when triggerd >> this way. So a third party could deliberatly cause a DOS-Attack on >> two systems with one simple email. >> I am sure there are other people, who run autoresponders like this. > > Majordomo has "some" safety built-in against these kind of mail loops > but with new software (some from programmers without a clue), it is > up to us to keep updating our protection and configurations. I will think about it. I just wanted to say it is not that pressing, but as I am writing somebody has just started to build the same kind of mailloop with another autoresponder. > No vacation, auto-reply, or intelligent autoresponder is supposed to > reply to a message with "Precedence: bulk" or "Precedence: junk" in > the headers. That is a good point, I will keep that in mind. but: mail from:s.barnes@uni-koeln.de 250 2.1.0 s.barnes@uni-koeln.de... Sender ok rcpt to:majordomo@uni-koeln.de 250 2.1.5 majordomo@uni-koeln.de... Recipient ok data 354 Enter mail, end with "." on a line by itself from:s.barnes@uni-koeln.de to:majordomo@uni-koeln.de subject:test precedence:bulk lists . majordomo answers, can anyone confirm this? >> This has been suggested, but taboo-headers do only work if the mails >> go via resend to an actual mailinglist, or am I wrong? > > I have to dig into the majordomo and majordomo.pl scripts to see if > this is true. I always "assumed" that GLOBAL taboo expressions in > the majordomo.cf file would work for mail coming to majordomo as well. > Otherwise you are correct in regards to individual listname.config > files use of the taboo_* settings depending on resend. I have tried it, and it did only work on real mailinglists, not on mail going directly to majordomo. > The above should help, but as long as majordomo is willing by design > to reply to "almost" anyone, the potential will always exist for a > loop. Yes, but there must be ways to make this less dangerous, I have recently seen quite a few, "too many mails come back later messages" in our maillog. Maybe it is something that should be done by the MTA itself. > I hope my comments and suggestions shine some light on the situation, Yes, thank you for takeing the time. Susan Barnes Susan Barnes Zentrum fuer Angewandte Informatik - Universitaetsweiter Service RRZK Universitaet zu Koeln / Cologne University - Tel:0221-478-5594 From majordomo-users-owner@greatcircle.com Sat Jul 12 20:48:29 2003 Received: from web20504.mail.yahoo.com (web20504.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.226.139]) by mycroft.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with SMTP id E81EE195ABB for ; Sat, 12 Jul 2003 20:48:26 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <20030713034826.62433.qmail@web20504.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [217.41.59.217] by web20504.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Sun, 13 Jul 2003 04:48:26 BST Date: Sun, 13 Jul 2003 04:48:26 +0100 (BST) From: =?iso-8859-1?q?Lee?= Subject: Changing List Config Files. To: Majordomo-Users@GreatCircle.COM MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Archive-Number: 200307/40 X-Sequence-Number: 3470 Hello, I could really do with some help! I've recently become the admin / moderator of a majordomo list, and am trying to change some config bits without success. Here's what I'm doing: I'm calling up the current config file by mail to majordomo by typing: config (the listname) (my password) in the text body. Fine. I then make my changes, after much trial and error with # and here documents. I then mail back to majordomo, with the start of my post looking like this: newconfig (the listname) (my password) # The configuration file for the majordomo (listname) mailing list. # Comments start with the first # on a line, and continue to the end # of the line. There is no way to escape the # etc etc After many, many attempts the 'best' error message I get back is: >>>> newconfig (the listname) (my password) The new config file for (the listname) was NOT accepted because: unknown key |end| in file (the listname).new.config at line 393 unknown key |--------------------| in file (the listname).new.config at line 395 unknown key |talk21 your free portable and private address on the net at http://www.talk21.com| in file (the listname).new.config at line 396 The problem seems to be I can't stop my mail program confusing the end of my mail, even though I've ended it like this: who_access = list end These are the bits I need to block: -------------------- talk21 your FREE portable and private address on the net at http://www.talk21.com Is it possible my here delimiter is causing conflict with the final 'end'? In a here, I'm typing (for eg): message_footer << END jgjg jgjgjg lhlhjhjljh END Please help! By the way, I have 3 email services (yahoo, ukonline and talk21), and I've chosen talk21 because it seems to cause the least problems of all, especially with regard to unwanted insertion of html into my plain mail. Thanks hugely, lee ________________________________________________________________________ Want to chat instantly with your online friends? Get the FREE Yahoo! Messenger http://uk.messenger.yahoo.com/ From majordomo-users-owner@greatcircle.com Sun Jul 13 00:00:52 2003 Received: from web41709.mail.yahoo.com (web41709.mail.yahoo.com [66.218.93.126]) by mycroft.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with SMTP id 7297A196948 for ; Sun, 13 Jul 2003 00:00:49 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <20030713070049.6787.qmail@web41709.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [128.83.114.69] by web41709.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Sun, 13 Jul 2003 00:00:49 PDT Date: Sun, 13 Jul 2003 00:00:49 -0700 (PDT) From: Scott Hawley Subject: How to handle reply-quoted commands? To: majordomo-users@greatcircle.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Archive-Number: 200307/41 X-Sequence-Number: 3471 Hi, Not to get myself flamed out of existence, but...I couldn't find this anywhere in the FAQ and the majordomo-users archive doesn't seem to be searchable. I would have thought that this would be a common question: How do I get majordomo to handle (i.e. not ignore) lines that begin with ">"? I want (my users) to be able to just reply to the confirmation e-mail. Majordomo seems to get confused by the (now-standard) ">" quote marks in an e-mail, so, e.g., a line with an "auth" command in it isn't processed if it begins with a ">". This is really inconvenient...I know that imailsrv has a statement like "If you have a normal mail program, you can probably just reply to this e-mail"... Presumably majordomo is not rendered impotent by the appearance of one character? I'm using OS X Mail.app and even if I copy & paste the "auth" command, it somehow magically carries along that fact that it's quoted text (even if I copy only a subset of the string!), so I can't seem to get rid of the ">"...well not with copying to a text editor, removing the ">", and recopying back into the message...and that should not be necessary. Thanks. Scott __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? SBC Yahoo! DSL - Now only $29.95 per month! http://sbc.yahoo.com From majordomo-users-owner@greatcircle.com Sun Jul 13 02:54:02 2003 Received: from scanmail1.cableone.net (scanmail1.cableone.net [24.116.0.121]) by mycroft.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 16EEF19666E for ; Sun, 13 Jul 2003 02:54:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: from scanmail1.cableone.net ([10.116.0.121]) by scanmail1.cableone.net with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1877.687.68); Sun, 13 Jul 2003 02:53:17 -0700 Received: from scanmail1.cableone.net [24.116.0.121] by scanmail1.cableone.net (SMTPD32-7.04) id AC0D7A4200F6; Sun, 13 Jul 2003 02:53:17 -0700 Received: from daniel.liston.nu (24-116-58-25.cpe.cableone.net [24.116.58.25]) by mail.cableone.net with SMTP (MailShield v2.04 - WIN32 Jul 17 2001 17:12:42); Sun, 13 Jul 2003 02:53:17 -0600 Received: from sonny.org ([192.168.1.60]) by daniel.liston.nu (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id h6D9rwl3020255; Sun, 13 Jul 2003 04:53:58 -0500 Message-ID: <3F112CC6.2000000@sonny.org> Date: Sun, 13 Jul 2003 04:56:22 -0500 From: Daniel Liston User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.4) Gecko/20030624 Netscape/7.1 (ax) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Lee Cc: Majordomo-Users@greatcircle.com Subject: Re: Changing List Config Files. References: <20030713034826.62433.qmail@web20504.mail.yahoo.com> In-Reply-To: <20030713034826.62433.qmail@web20504.mail.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-SMTP-HELO: daniel.liston.nu X-SMTP-MAIL-FROM: dliston@sonny.org X-SMTP-PEER-INFO: 24-116-58-25.cpe.cableone.net [24.116.58.25] X-Archive-Number: 200307/42 X-Sequence-Number: 3472 First, the email MUST be sent in plain text. Second, the message must not be word wrapped. If your mail client is wrapping lines at column 72 instead of 80, or wider, the listname.config file you send back via email will confuse majordomo and could cause the error you are seeing. Try sending just the variables and their values back to majordomo without all the #comments, then issue a "writeconfig" if the message is accepted successfully to get the comments put back in. Dan Liston PS. If you can telnet or ssh into the majordomo machine and edit the .config file by hand, you might have better luck too. Lee wrote: > Hello, > > I could really do with some help! > I've recently become the admin / moderator of a > majordomo list, and am trying to change some config > bits without success. > > Here's what I'm doing: > I'm calling up the current config file by mail to > majordomo by typing: > > config (the listname) (my password) > > in the text body. Fine. I then make my changes, after > much trial and error with # and here documents. I then > mail back to majordomo, with the start of my post > looking like this: > > newconfig (the listname) (my password) > # The configuration file for the majordomo > (listname) mailing list. > # Comments start with the first # on a line, and > continue to the end > # of the line. There is no way to escape the # > > etc etc > > After many, many attempts the 'best' error message I > get back is: > >>>>> newconfig (the listname) (my password) > The new config file for (the listname) was NOT > accepted because: > unknown key |end| in file (the listname).new.config at > line 393 > unknown key |--------------------| in file (the > listname).new.config at > line 395 > unknown key |talk21 your free portable and private > address on the net > at http://www.talk21.com| in file (the > listname).new.config at line 396 > > The problem seems to be I can't stop my mail program > confusing the end of my mail, even though I've ended > it like this: > > who_access = list > end > > These are the bits I need to block: > > -------------------- > talk21 your FREE portable and private address on the > net at http://www.talk21.com > > Is it possible my here delimiter is causing conflict > with the final 'end'? In a here, I'm typing (for eg): > > message_footer << END > jgjg jgjgjg lhlhjhjljh > > END > > Please help! > By the way, I have 3 email services (yahoo, ukonline > and talk21), and I've chosen talk21 because it seems > to cause the least problems of all, especially with > regard to unwanted insertion of html into my plain > mail. > > Thanks hugely, > lee > > > ________________________________________________________________________ > Want to chat instantly with your online friends? Get the FREE Yahoo! > Messenger http://uk.messenger.yahoo.com/ From majordomo-users-owner@greatcircle.com Sun Jul 13 03:00:43 2003 Received: from scanmail1.cableone.net (scanmail1.cableone.net [24.116.0.121]) by mycroft.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9B28D1968F1 for ; Sun, 13 Jul 2003 03:00:37 -0700 (PDT) Received: from scanmail1.cableone.net ([10.116.0.121]) by scanmail1.cableone.net with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1877.687.68); Sun, 13 Jul 2003 02:59:55 -0700 Received: from scanmail1.cableone.net [24.116.0.121] by scanmail1.cableone.net (SMTPD32-7.04) id AD9B8DBC014A; Sun, 13 Jul 2003 02:59:55 -0700 Received: from daniel.liston.nu (24-116-58-25.cpe.cableone.net [24.116.58.25]) by mail.cableone.net with SMTP (MailShield v2.04 - WIN32 Jul 17 2001 17:12:42); Sun, 13 Jul 2003 02:59:54 -0600 Received: from sonny.org ([192.168.1.60]) by daniel.liston.nu (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id h6DA0Yl3020468; Sun, 13 Jul 2003 05:00:34 -0500 Message-ID: <3F112E52.50207@sonny.org> Date: Sun, 13 Jul 2003 05:02:58 -0500 From: Daniel Liston User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.4) Gecko/20030624 Netscape/7.1 (ax) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Scott Hawley Cc: majordomo-users@greatcircle.com Subject: Re: How to handle reply-quoted commands? References: <20030713070049.6787.qmail@web41709.mail.yahoo.com> In-Reply-To: <20030713070049.6787.qmail@web41709.mail.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-SMTP-HELO: daniel.liston.nu X-SMTP-MAIL-FROM: dliston@sonny.org X-SMTP-PEER-INFO: 24-116-58-25.cpe.cableone.net [24.116.58.25] X-Archive-Number: 200307/43 X-Sequence-Number: 3473 Yes, one character can and does render majordomo impotent in this case. The instructions state "exactly" as shown. Exactly does not include a > at the beginning of the line. There is a patch that allows majordomo to be a bit more newbie friendly in this regard. ftp://ftp.ccsf.org/majordomo-patches/1.94.5/majordomo.6 Dan Liston Scott Hawley wrote: > Hi, > Not to get myself flamed out of existence, but...I > couldn't find this anywhere in the FAQ and the > majordomo-users archive doesn't seem to be searchable. > I would have thought that this would be a common > question: > > How do I get majordomo to handle (i.e. not ignore) > lines that begin with ">"? > > I want (my users) to be able to just reply to the > confirmation e-mail. Majordomo seems to get confused > by the (now-standard) ">" quote marks in an e-mail, > so, e.g., a line with an "auth" command in it isn't > processed if it begins with a ">". This is really > inconvenient...I know that imailsrv has a statement > like "If you have a normal mail program, you can > probably just reply to this e-mail"... Presumably > majordomo is not rendered impotent by the appearance > of one character? > > I'm using OS X Mail.app and even if I copy & paste the > "auth" command, it somehow magically carries along > that fact that it's quoted text (even if I copy only a > subset of the string!), so I can't seem to get rid of > the ">"...well not with copying to a text editor, > removing the ">", and recopying back into the > message...and that should not be necessary. > > Thanks. > Scott > > > > > __________________________________ > Do you Yahoo!? > SBC Yahoo! DSL - Now only $29.95 per month! > http://sbc.yahoo.com From majordomo-users-owner@greatcircle.com Sun Jul 13 08:32:43 2003 Received: from web20513.mail.yahoo.com (web20513.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.174.44]) by mycroft.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with SMTP id 40BE9196404 for ; Sun, 13 Jul 2003 08:32:40 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <20030713153239.65600.qmail@web20513.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [217.34.91.234] by web20513.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Sun, 13 Jul 2003 16:32:39 BST Date: Sun, 13 Jul 2003 16:32:39 +0100 (BST) From: =?iso-8859-1?q?Lee?= Subject: Re: Dan, Changing config files To: major MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Archive-Number: 200307/44 X-Sequence-Number: 3474 Hello Dan, Thanks very much for your reply - I'll try that in a while, but first can I check the following? If sending just the variables, presumably i would need to send all of them, not just the couple i'm changing? If that works, how would my further 'writeconfig' put all the comments back exactly where they are now? They are currently at the start of the file and specific ones are before each variable. Lee --- Daniel Liston wrote: > First, the email MUST be sent in plain text. > Second, the message must not be word wrapped. > > If your mail client is wrapping lines at column 72 > instead of 80, or wider, the listname.config file > you send back via email will confuse majordomo and > could cause the error you are seeing. > > Try sending just the variables and their values > back to majordomo without all the #comments, then > issue a "writeconfig" if the message is accepted > successfully to get the comments put back in. > > Dan Liston > > PS. If you can telnet or ssh into the majordomo > machine and edit the .config file by hand, you > might have better luck too. > ________________________________________________________________________ Want to chat instantly with your online friends? Get the FREE Yahoo! Messenger http://uk.messenger.yahoo.com/ From majordomo-users-owner@greatcircle.com Sun Jul 13 10:02:01 2003 Received: from cloud.ccsf.cc.ca.us (cloud.ccsf.cc.ca.us [147.144.1.212]) by mycroft.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4EBBA196974 for ; Sun, 13 Jul 2003 10:01:58 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (jjah@localhost) by cloud.ccsf.cc.ca.us (8.11.6/8.11.2) with ESMTP id h6DH1FZ22627; Sun, 13 Jul 2003 10:01:15 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sun, 13 Jul 2003 10:01:15 -0700 (PDT) From: "Joe R. Jah" To: Daniel Liston Cc: Scott Hawley , majordomo-users@greatcircle.com Subject: Re: How to handle reply-quoted commands? In-Reply-To: <3F112E52.50207@sonny.org> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Archive-Number: 200307/45 X-Sequence-Number: 3475 On Sun, 13 Jul 2003, Daniel Liston wrote: > Date: Sun, 13 Jul 2003 05:02:58 -0500 > From: Daniel Liston > To: Scott Hawley > Cc: majordomo-users@greatcircle.com > Subject: Re: How to handle reply-quoted commands? > > Yes, one character can and does render majordomo > impotent in this case. The instructions state > "exactly" as shown. Exactly does not include a > > at the beginning of the line. > > There is a patch that allows majordomo to be a bit > more newbie friendly in this regard. > > ftp://ftp.ccsf.org/majordomo-patches/1.94.5/majordomo.6 > > Dan Liston The real solution in: ftp://ftp.ccsf.org/majordomo-patches/1.94.5/majordomo.5 Regards, Joe -- _/ _/_/_/ _/ ____________ __o _/ _/ _/ _/ ______________ _-\<,_ _/ _/ _/_/_/ _/ _/ ......(_)/ (_) _/_/ oe _/ _/. _/_/ ah jjah@cloud.ccsf.cc.ca.us > Scott Hawley wrote: > > > Hi, > > Not to get myself flamed out of existence, but...I > > couldn't find this anywhere in the FAQ and the > > majordomo-users archive doesn't seem to be searchable. > > I would have thought that this would be a common > > question: > > > > How do I get majordomo to handle (i.e. not ignore) > > lines that begin with ">"? > > > > I want (my users) to be able to just reply to the > > confirmation e-mail. Majordomo seems to get confused > > by the (now-standard) ">" quote marks in an e-mail, > > so, e.g., a line with an "auth" command in it isn't > > processed if it begins with a ">". This is really > > inconvenient...I know that imailsrv has a statement > > like "If you have a normal mail program, you can > > probably just reply to this e-mail"... Presumably > > majordomo is not rendered impotent by the appearance > > of one character? > > > > I'm using OS X Mail.app and even if I copy & paste the > > "auth" command, it somehow magically carries along > > that fact that it's quoted text (even if I copy only a > > subset of the string!), so I can't seem to get rid of > > the ">"...well not with copying to a text editor, > > removing the ">", and recopying back into the > > message...and that should not be necessary. > > > > Thanks. > > Scott From majordomo-users-owner@greatcircle.com Sun Jul 13 11:00:30 2003 Received: from web41707.mail.yahoo.com (web41707.mail.yahoo.com [66.218.93.124]) by mycroft.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with SMTP id F3AD4195A9A for ; Sun, 13 Jul 2003 11:00:27 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <20030713180027.58398.qmail@web41707.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [24.175.37.254] by web41707.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Sun, 13 Jul 2003 11:00:27 PDT Date: Sun, 13 Jul 2003 11:00:27 -0700 (PDT) From: Scott Hawley Subject: Re: How to handle reply-quoted commands? To: "Joe R. Jah" Cc: majordomo-users@greatcircle.com, Daniel Liston In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Archive-Number: 200307/46 X-Sequence-Number: 3476 Joe and Dan, Thanks for your responses. The patch Joe recommended meets my needs/wants exactly! Best wishes, Scott > > Yes, one character can and does render majordomo > > impotent in this case. The instructions state > > "exactly" as shown. Exactly does not include a > > > at the beginning of the line. > > > > There is a patch that allows majordomo to be a bit > > more newbie friendly in this regard. > > > > > ftp://ftp.ccsf.org/majordomo-patches/1.94.5/majordomo.6 > > > > Dan Liston > > The real solution in: > > > ftp://ftp.ccsf.org/majordomo-patches/1.94.5/majordomo.5 > > Regards, > > Joe > -- > _/ _/_/_/ _/ ____________ > __o > _/ _/ _/ _/ ______________ > _-\<,_ > _/ _/ _/_/_/ _/ _/ > ......(_)/ (_) > _/_/ oe _/ _/. _/_/ ah > jjah@cloud.ccsf.cc.ca.us > > > Scott Hawley wrote: > > > > > Hi, > > > Not to get myself flamed out of existence, > but...I > > > couldn't find this anywhere in the FAQ and the > > > majordomo-users archive doesn't seem to be > searchable. > > > I would have thought that this would be a > common > > > question: > > > > > > How do I get majordomo to handle (i.e. not > ignore) > > > lines that begin with ">"? > > > > > > I want (my users) to be able to just reply to > the > > > confirmation e-mail. Majordomo seems to get > confused > > > by the (now-standard) ">" quote marks in an > e-mail, > > > so, e.g., a line with an "auth" command in it > isn't > > > processed if it begins with a ">". This is > really > > > inconvenient...I know that imailsrv has a > statement > > > like "If you have a normal mail program, you can > > > probably just reply to this e-mail"... > Presumably > > > majordomo is not rendered impotent by the > appearance > > > of one character? > > > > > > I'm using OS X Mail.app and even if I copy & > paste the > > > "auth" command, it somehow magically carries > along > > > that fact that it's quoted text (even if I copy > only a > > > subset of the string!), so I can't seem to get > rid of > > > the ">"...well not with copying to a text > editor, > > > removing the ">", and recopying back into the > > > message...and that should not be necessary. > > > > > > Thanks. > > > Scott > __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? SBC Yahoo! DSL - Now only $29.95 per month! http://sbc.yahoo.com From majordomo-users-owner@greatcircle.com Sun Jul 13 11:33:36 2003 Received: from scanmail1.cableone.net (scanmail1.cableone.net [24.116.0.121]) by mycroft.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 78374195A4A for ; Sun, 13 Jul 2003 11:33:30 -0700 (PDT) Received: from scanmail1.cableone.net ([10.116.0.121]) by scanmail1.cableone.net with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1877.687.68); Sun, 13 Jul 2003 11:32:47 -0700 Received: from scanmail1.cableone.net [24.116.0.121] by scanmail1.cableone.net (SMTPD32-7.04) id A5CF1810104; Sun, 13 Jul 2003 11:32:47 -0700 Received: from daniel.liston.nu (24-116-58-25.cpe.cableone.net [24.116.58.25]) by mail.cableone.net with SMTP (MailShield v2.04 - WIN32 Jul 17 2001 17:12:42); Sun, 13 Jul 2003 11:32:46 -0600 Received: from sonny.org ([192.168.1.60]) by daniel.liston.nu (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id h6DIXXl3022677; Sun, 13 Jul 2003 13:33:34 -0500 Message-ID: <3F11A68A.7020806@sonny.org> Date: Sun, 13 Jul 2003 13:35:54 -0500 From: Daniel Liston User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.4) Gecko/20030624 Netscape/7.1 (ax) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Lee Cc: major Subject: Re: Dan, Changing config files References: <20030713153239.65600.qmail@web20513.mail.yahoo.com> In-Reply-To: <20030713153239.65600.qmail@web20513.mail.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-SMTP-HELO: daniel.liston.nu X-SMTP-MAIL-FROM: dliston@sonny.org X-SMTP-PEER-INFO: 24-116-58-25.cpe.cableone.net [24.116.58.25] X-Archive-Number: 200307/47 X-Sequence-Number: 3477 This is directly from the list-owner-info file found in the majordomo tarball if you do not have shell access to the server running majordomo to find it in the docs directory: > writeconfig > Write a new config file in standard form. Writeconfig forces a > rewrite of the config file with all default values in place (or > current values if the config file already exists). It is > useful to use after an upgrade of majordomo since it will add > the new keywords for people to change. It also updates the > documentation in the file if that has changed. Dan Liston Lee wrote: > Hello Dan, > > Thanks very much for your reply - I'll try that in a > while, but first can I check the following? > > If sending just the variables, presumably i would need > to send all of them, not just the couple i'm changing? > > If that works, how would my further 'writeconfig' put > all the comments back exactly where they are now? They > are currently at the start of the file and specific > ones are before each variable. > > Lee > > > --- Daniel Liston wrote: > > > First, the email MUST be sent in plain text. >> Second, the message must not be word wrapped. >> >> If your mail client is wrapping lines at column 72 >> instead of 80, or wider, the listname.config file >> you send back via email will confuse majordomo and >> could cause the error you are seeing. >> >> Try sending just the variables and their values >> back to majordomo without all the #comments, then >> issue a "writeconfig" if the message is accepted >> successfully to get the comments put back in. >> >> Dan Liston >> >> PS. If you can telnet or ssh into the majordomo >> machine and edit the .config file by hand, you >> might have better luck too. >> > > > ________________________________________________________________________ > Want to chat instantly with your online friends? Get the FREE Yahoo! > Messenger http://uk.messenger.yahoo.com/ From majordomo-users-owner@greatcircle.com Sun Jul 13 21:34:35 2003 Received: from heron.mail.pas.earthlink.net (heron.mail.pas.earthlink.net [207.217.120.189]) by mycroft.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A1D0519650C for ; Sun, 13 Jul 2003 21:34:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: from user-vcauma1.dsl.mindspring.com ([216.175.89.65] helo=queernet.org) by heron.mail.pas.earthlink.net with asmtp (TLSv1:RC4-MD5:128) (Exim 3.33 #1) id 19bv2n-0000I0-00; Sun, 13 Jul 2003 21:34:33 -0700 Message-ID: <3F1232DF.6030001@queernet.org> Date: Sun, 13 Jul 2003 21:34:39 -0700 From: "Roger B.A. Klorese" User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.4) Gecko/20030624 X-Accept-Language: en, en-us, fr-be, fr-ca, fr-fr, fr-lu, fr-mc, fr-ch MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Scott Hawley Cc: "Joe R. Jah" , majordomo-users@greatcircle.com, Daniel Liston Subject: Re: How to handle reply-quoted commands? References: <20030713180027.58398.qmail@web41707.mail.yahoo.com> In-Reply-To: <20030713180027.58398.qmail@web41707.mail.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-ELNK-Trace: 95a5daa1092a4a38d780f4a490ca69564776905774d2ac4bce57acce26f1d5ae1f0c5a635aef86cb350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c X-Archive-Number: 200307/48 X-Sequence-Number: 3478 Scott Hawley wrote: >Joe and Dan, > Thanks for your responses. The patch Joe >recommended meets my needs/wants exactly! > > However, please remember that this means many broken autoresponders will now be able to confirm subscriptions... From majordomo-users-owner@greatcircle.com Sun Jul 13 22:26:09 2003 Received: from web20503.mail.yahoo.com (web20503.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.226.138]) by mycroft.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with SMTP id A147D196247 for ; Sun, 13 Jul 2003 22:26:08 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <20030714052601.69949.qmail@web20503.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [217.39.101.10] by web20503.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Mon, 14 Jul 2003 06:26:01 BST Date: Mon, 14 Jul 2003 06:26:01 +0100 (BST) From: =?iso-8859-1?q?Lee?= Subject: Still trying to change config To: major MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Archive-Number: 200307/49 X-Sequence-Number: 3479 hello, Still no joy with my attempts to change config. Whatever I do and how I do it, my mails to majordomo just don't get accepted. I came close when I put the 'writeconfig' or 'newconfig' (list) (password) at the end of my mail and no 'end', but majordomo then told me the first 3 keys towards the top of the file were 'unrecognised commands'. I'm thinking I'll have to give up and ask the majordomo host guy to enter my few changes manually direct into majordomo. Lee ________________________________________________________________________ Want to chat instantly with your online friends? Get the FREE Yahoo! Messenger http://uk.messenger.yahoo.com/ From majordomo-users-owner@greatcircle.com Sun Jul 13 23:18:37 2003 Received: from web20504.mail.yahoo.com (web20504.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.226.139]) by mycroft.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with SMTP id 80924196A69 for ; Sun, 13 Jul 2003 23:18:35 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <20030714061835.93376.qmail@web20504.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [217.39.101.10] by web20504.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Mon, 14 Jul 2003 07:18:35 BST Date: Mon, 14 Jul 2003 07:18:35 +0100 (BST) From: =?iso-8859-1?q?Lee?= Subject: changing config again, with a surprise ending .... To: major MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Archive-Number: 200307/50 X-Sequence-Number: 3480 I was just clutching at straws in random desperation, trying things I hadn't tried before, in case I'd misunderstood the various help docs and advice I've had. Needless to say ... didn't work. HOWEVER, I have just succeeded! I searched on the internet at random for 'majordomo config', where I stumbled across a page entitled just that. It showed an example where it had 'EOF' then 'end' after the file; and this worked!, presumably giving definite cut-off from that junk mail programs add. Only took me three days to do this!!!! (I am a total novice) Lee --------------------------------------------------- Lee wrote: I came close when I put the 'writeconfig' or 'newconfig' (list) (password) at the end of my mail and no 'end', Roger wrote: ...why at the END, rather than the beginning...? ________________________________________________________________________ Want to chat instantly with your online friends? Get the FREE Yahoo! Messenger http://uk.messenger.yahoo.com/ From majordomo-users-owner@greatcircle.com Sun Jul 13 23:36:20 2003 Received: from web41703.mail.yahoo.com (web41703.mail.yahoo.com [66.218.93.120]) by mycroft.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with SMTP id 73715196A8F for ; Sun, 13 Jul 2003 23:36:18 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <20030714063618.34813.qmail@web41703.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [24.175.37.254] by web41703.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Sun, 13 Jul 2003 23:36:18 PDT Date: Sun, 13 Jul 2003 23:36:18 -0700 (PDT) From: Scott Hawley Subject: Re: How to handle reply-quoted commands? To: "Roger B.A. Klorese" Cc: "Joe R. Jah" , majordomo-users@greatcircle.com, Daniel Liston In-Reply-To: <3F1232DF.6030001@queernet.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Archive-Number: 200307/51 X-Sequence-Number: 3481 > >Joe and Dan, > > Thanks for your responses. The patch Joe > >recommended meets my needs/wants exactly! > > However, please remember that this means many broken > autoresponders will > now be able to confirm subscriptions... Actually, it appears I spoke too soon. Replying to a confirmation message seems to work ok using OS X's Mail.app, but I just tried it from my yahoo account, and all I get are the following 4 lines: -- >>>> --- majordomo@scotthawley.com wrote: END OF COMMANDS Apparently this means it didn't succeed. Strangely, I don't get any sort of error messages from majordomo in my "owner" account --- it's as if the request was never even received. I'm not really worried about broken autoresponders confirming messages, but I am worried about my list members finding the whole majordomo confirmation process too complicated ("Get two messages back, look in one of the messages for an "auth" command with a numeric code, copy this line and send it back"). It seems like the Linux credo "by geeks, for geeks" applies here... IMail server ("for Windows, for lusers") is so easy to use by comparison. Perhaps it's possible to get majordomo to send a URL in the message that the user can simply follow to confirm their subscription? (e.g. I'm currently using the line like User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.4) Gecko/20030624 X-Accept-Language: en, en-us, fr-be, fr-ca, fr-fr, fr-lu, fr-mc, fr-ch MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Scott Hawley Cc: "Joe R. Jah" , majordomo-users@greatcircle.com, Daniel Liston Subject: Re: How to handle reply-quoted commands? References: <20030714063618.34813.qmail@web41703.mail.yahoo.com> In-Reply-To: <20030714063618.34813.qmail@web41703.mail.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-ELNK-Trace: 95a5daa1092a4a38d780f4a490ca69564776905774d2ac4b71d0496c46b0931bace4cbf7afd3d922350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c X-Archive-Number: 200307/52 X-Sequence-Number: 3482 Scott Hawley wrote: >Actually, it appears I spoke too soon. Replying to a >confirmation message seems to work ok using OS X's >Mail.app, but I just tried it from my yahoo account, >and all I get are the following 4 lines: >-- > > > >>>>>--- majordomo@scotthawley.com wrote: >>>>> >>>>> >END OF COMMANDS > >Apparently this means it didn't succeed. Strangely, I >don't get any sort of error messages from majordomo in >my "owner" account --- it's as if the request was >never even received. > True. Once you take out the > > > you now have a line that starts with a hyphen. Lines starting with a hyphen terminate the processing of commands -- they're treated as signature delimiters. >Perhaps majordomo2 makes it easier on the end user? >(I don't care too much if *I* have to do a little >extra work...) > > It does. The wording of the messages is rather complex, alas, but it's changeable by editing the format files. Mj2 presents the option of: - clicking on a web URL and clicking the "accept" button - keeping the subject line and replacing the entire message body with just the word "accept" - putting "accept TOKEN" in the body It doesn't allow reply-with-no-changes for the reason I mentioned. From majordomo-users-owner@greatcircle.com Mon Jul 14 09:06:31 2003 Received: from wchqex01.capwin.org (unknown [65.222.176.6]) by mycroft.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 46241196B65 for ; Mon, 14 Jul 2003 09:06:29 -0700 (PDT) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.0.6375.0 content-class: urn:content-classes:message Subject: Unable to expand a distribution list MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Date: Mon, 14 Jul 2003 12:06:28 -0400 Message-ID: <16E4F48F81558E45963EB9498A81C2B9645B@wchqex01.capwin.org> X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: Unable to expand a distribution list Thread-Index: AcNKIeIeFyCLgOd0SGmlLPMbhObdXQ== From: "Dave Fontaine" To: X-Archive-Number: 200307/53 X-Sequence-Number: 3483 Hello all, Have run into a problem while attempting to make a submission. I can execute the config, lists, help type commands with no hitches whatsoever. The error that I am getting is: **************************** newsletter-dist@listserv.mydomain.org on 7/10/2003 5:40 PM Unable to expand a distribution list to deliver the message to its members. Try again or contact your system administrator. < listserv.mydomain.org #5.2.4> **************************** I am running Redhat 8.0, sendmail 8.12.5-7, and Majordomo 1.94.5. I have done the following to try to correct the problem, but still nothing: I have added 'Tmajordomo' to the sendmail.cf and submit.cf files and ensured that the Trusted users line was NOT commented out. I have added majordomo to the trusted-users file in '/etc/mail/'.=20 I have verified permissions and ownerships as per section 2.1 of the Great Circle Majordomo FAQs, 640 for files, 751 for directories and x bit set for all major scripts - wrapper, resend, etc.=20=20 I have verified that wrapper was installed setuid. I have run the './wrapper config-test' as a third party user and the results were 100% positive. Which leads me to believe that this is a sendmail problem. PLEASE help, anyone! :) -Dave From majordomo-users-owner@greatcircle.com Mon Jul 14 10:05:52 2003 Received: from scanmail1.cableone.net (scanmail1.cableone.net [24.116.0.121]) by mycroft.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 71255195A49 for ; Mon, 14 Jul 2003 10:05:35 -0700 (PDT) Received: from scanmail1.cableone.net ([10.116.0.121]) by scanmail1.cableone.net with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1877.687.68); Mon, 14 Jul 2003 10:04:50 -0700 Received: from scanmail1.cableone.net [24.116.0.121] by scanmail1.cableone.net (SMTPD32-7.04) id A2B1F3C0150; Mon, 14 Jul 2003 10:04:49 -0700 Received: from daniel.liston.nu (24-116-58-25.cpe.cableone.net [24.116.58.25]) by mail.cableone.net with SMTP (MailShield v2.04 - WIN32 Jul 17 2001 17:12:42); Mon, 14 Jul 2003 10:04:49 -0600 Received: from sonny.org ([192.168.1.60]) by daniel.liston.nu (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id h6EH5bl3029137; Mon, 14 Jul 2003 12:05:38 -0500 Message-ID: <3F12E371.80406@sonny.org> Date: Mon, 14 Jul 2003 12:08:01 -0500 From: Daniel Liston User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.4) Gecko/20030624 Netscape/7.1 (ax) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Michael Arena , Majordomo-users Subject: Re: Exim/Majordomo References: <001c01c347b3$6b1badc0$0f01a8c0@magnatechonline.com> <3F0F2BD6.8020803@sonny.org> <001c01c34a1d$0754a280$0f01a8c0@magnatechonline.com> In-Reply-To: <001c01c34a1d$0754a280$0f01a8c0@magnatechonline.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-SMTP-HELO: daniel.liston.nu X-SMTP-MAIL-FROM: dliston@sonny.org X-SMTP-PEER-INFO: 24-116-58-25.cpe.cableone.net [24.116.58.25] X-Archive-Number: 200307/54 X-Sequence-Number: 3484 Please CC: the majordomo-users Mike. I am very weak when it comes to exim, and there are a LOT of exim users on the list to correct me if I tell you something wrong. In your config file, the file specifier should be your default or dedicated aliases file, which should both be in /etc or /etc/mail. It is these files that will reference the /var/lib/majordomo/lists/ and directory location. Note: default aliases file /etc/aliases dedicated aliases file /etc/mail/majordomo.aliases Michael Arena wrote: > Daniel, > I re-installed Majordomo from the RPM you sent me. > > So after reading that > tutorial(http://www.mars-attacks.org/~boklm/browse/doc/majordomo/) I added > two lines to my Exim config file, one for "trusted_users" and the other is > the director entry which is: > "majordomo_aliases: > driver = aliasfile; Not sure if these next two will help, I have not used exim in years. file_transport = address_file pipe_transport = address_pipe This is what I was talking about in the top of this message. file = /etc/mail/majordomo.aliases > file = /var/lib/majordomo/lists/lists.aliases, When tarball installs are used, it was popular to use /usr/local/majordomo/lists/lists.aliases as the location for aliases, but if you need sendmail compatibility, you should use /etc/aliases as the location. > search_type = lsearch, > user = majordomo > group = majordomo" > > I'm using Exim 4.01-1 and that director entry is giving me the following > error. > "Exim configuration error in line 379: > router majordomo_aliases: cannot find router driver "aliasfile;"" ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ I think a google search on the above could tell you what the real problem is here. This sounds like the router is not defined for using and aliases file. > > Perhaps that tutorial is geared at an older version of Exim? Which entries > do you have in your config file? Just those two as well? Neither, I went back to sendmail in April of 2000, and never looked back. > > When I get it to accept the config file and create my lists.aliases file, > can I test this setup by sending mail to majordomo@mydomain.com ? > > thanks for all your help, it's greatly appreciated > -mike > Here are some sample lines to go in your majordomo.aliases or lists.aliases file when you get it all working. The RPM already added a majordomo alias, but I doubt it made a majordomo-owner or owner-majordomo alias. I put these in the default aliases file, /etc/aliases; majordomo: "|/usr/lib/majordomo/wrapper majordomo",majordomo-owner owner-majordomo: majordomo-owner majordomo-owner: dliston, I use a dedicated file for majordomo lists called majordomo.aliases in the /var/lib/majordomo directory, linked to /etc/mail/majordomo.aliases that contains lines like these. My switching back and forth between sendmail, exim, and back to sendmail again did not require any changes in this file. test: "|/usr/lib/majordomo/wrapper resend -l test test-outgoing,nobody" owner-test: test-owner, test-owner: dliston test-approval: test-owner test-outgoing: :include:/var/lib/majordomo/lists/test,test-archiver,test-digestify test-archiver: "|/usr/lib/majordomo/wrapper archive2.pl -f /var/lib/majordomo/archives/test/test -a -M" test-digestify: "|/usr/lib/majordomo/wrapper digest -r -C -l test-digest test-digest-outgoing", test-request: "|/usr/lib/majordomo/wrapper request-answer test" #test-request: "|/usr/lib/majordomo/wrapper majordomo -l test" test-digest: test owner-test-digest: owner-test test-digest-outgoing: "|/usr/bin/bulk_mailer owner-test@sonny.org /var/lib/majordomo/lists/test-digest" Which test-request alias you use depends on your majordomo.cf setting for $majordomo_request = 0; If you changed this setting to = 1, then switch the commenting of those lines. Note: bulk_mailer is/was a tool for improving delivery performance with sendmail. Exim does not need this, but I provide the example on the digest delivery alias. Lastly, if you are not concerned with archives or digests (yet), you can simply delete everything after the first comma on the test-outgoing alias. Dan Liston PS. In a Nutshell this is that last info I had for Exim 3.32. If you have something that works with majordomo and a newer Exim, please share. This goes in /etc/exim/exim.conf: #near the top trusted_users = exim:majordomo #after system_aliases director and before local_users director majordomo_aliases: driver = aliasfile pipe_transport = address_pipe file = /etc/aliases search_type = lsearch user = majordomo group = majordomo suffix = "+*" suffix_optional From majordomo-users-owner@greatcircle.com Mon Jul 14 11:13:12 2003 Received: from esri.com (dwp.esri.com [198.102.62.250]) by mycroft.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id AEBE5196762 for ; Mon, 14 Jul 2003 11:13:10 -0700 (PDT) Received: from zipwire.esri.com (zipwire.esri.com [46.1.2.224]) by esri.com (8.11.6+Sun/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h6EID9Z22189 for ; Mon, 14 Jul 2003 11:13:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: by zipwire.esri.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id <3C9P769Z>; Mon, 14 Jul 2003 11:13:10 -0700 Message-ID: <83B4938C35075E4C82C357A4FF267C8303DA2170@zipwire.esri.com> From: Bob Hoffmaster To: majordomo-users@greatcircle.com Subject: can't get 'approve' to work... Date: Mon, 14 Jul 2003 11:13:00 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" X-Archive-Number: 200307/55 X-Sequence-Number: 3485 List; I can't seem to get the 'approve' process working correctly. Running majordomo on RedHat 9. ' wrapper config-test' checks out ok when running the check as non-root user. I have the 'moderate' variable set (moderate = yes ) in the "test.config" file and the 'moderator' variable set to my e-mail ( moderator = bhoffmaster@esri.com). E-mails sent to my "test" list are not held for moderator approval, but sent straight to the list. No "request to moderate" email is received by the moderator. Other list functions work ok (send to list works, list responds to requests, etc). Any help would be appreciated. Thanks Bob Hoffmaster bhoffmaster@esri.com From majordomo-users-owner@greatcircle.com Mon Jul 14 11:31:05 2003 Received: from krusty-motorsports.com (krusty-motorsports.com [192.94.170.8]) by mycroft.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id F394B19600D for ; Mon, 14 Jul 2003 11:31:02 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [24.194.112.77] (helo=skipper.averillpark.net) by krusty-motorsports.com with asmtp (TLSv1:DES-CBC3-SHA:168) (Exim 4.14) id 19c86H-0000lk-DN for Majordomo-users@greatcircle.com; Mon, 14 Jul 2003 18:31:01 +0000 Received: from rwelty by skipper.averillpark.net with local (Exim 4.14) id 19c84G-0002V8-Hj for Majordomo-users@greatcircle.com; Mon, 14 Jul 2003 14:28:56 -0400 Date: Mon, 14 Jul 2003 14:28:56 -0400 (EDT) From: Richard Welty Subject: Re: Exim/Majordomo To: Majordomo-users MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII Content-Disposition: INLINE References: <001c01c347b3$6b1badc0$0f01a8c0@magnatechonline.com> <3F0F2BD6.8020803@sonny.org> <001c01c34a1d$0754a280$0f01a8c0@magnatechonline.com> <3F12E371.80406@sonny.org> In-Reply-To: <3F12E371.80406@sonny.org> X-Mailer: Mahogany 0.64 'Sparc', compiled for Linux 2.4.9-13 i686 Message-Id: X-Habeas-SWE-1: winter into spring X-Habeas-SWE-2: brightly anticipated X-Habeas-SWE-3: like Habeas SWE (tm) X-Habeas-SWE-4: Copyright 2002 Habeas (tm) X-Habeas-SWE-5: Sender Warranted Email (SWE) (tm). The sender of this X-Habeas-SWE-6: email in exchange for a license for this Habeas X-Habeas-SWE-7: warrant mark warrants that this is a Habeas Compliant X-Habeas-SWE-8: Message (HCM) and not spam. Please report use of this X-Habeas-SWE-9: mark in spam to . X-Archive-Number: 200307/56 X-Sequence-Number: 3486 On Mon, 14 Jul 2003 12:08:01 -0500 Daniel Liston wrote: > Please CC: the majordomo-users Mike. I am very weak when it comes to > exim, and there are a LOT of exim users on the list to correct me if > I tell you something wrong. i reading this email, i'm wondering if michael has exim 3 and exim 4 crossed up. there are numerous detail changes from 3 to 4, and using the wrong setup instructions can lead to this sort of confusion. so michael, which exim version are you running and where did you get your instructions for exim/majordomo setup? richard -- Richard Welty rwelty@suespammers.org Averill Park Networking rwelty@averillpark.net Unix, Linux, IP Network Engineering, Security rwelty@krusty-motorsports.com 518-573-7592 From majordomo-users-owner@greatcircle.com Mon Jul 14 11:36:04 2003 Received: from mta9.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta9.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.42]) by mycroft.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E9A1D19601F for ; Mon, 14 Jul 2003 11:36:02 -0700 (PDT) Received: from asv11.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (asv11.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.145]) by mta9.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.16 (built May 14 2003)) with ESMTP id <0HI100G6U2BAWS@mta9.srv.hcvlny.cv.net> for majordomo-users@greatcircle.com; Mon, 14 Jul 2003 14:35:34 -0400 (EDT) Received: from magnatechonline.com (ool-182eda88.dyn.optonline.net [24.46.218.136]) by asv11.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (8.12.9/8.12.9) with SMTP id h6EIZYJd008794 for ; Mon, 14 Jul 2003 14:35:35 -0400 (EDT) Received: from tech1 by magnatechonline.com with smtp id aa00337 for ; Mon, 14 Jul 2003 14:35:19 -0400 (EDT) Date: Mon, 14 Jul 2003 14:43:25 -0400 From: Michael Arena Subject: Exim/Majordomo Configuration To: majordomo-users@greatcircle.com Message-id: <001601c34a37$cfd7f800$0f01a8c0@magnatechonline.com> X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-priority: Normal X-Archive-Number: 200307/57 X-Sequence-Number: 3487 Hello, I've installed Majordomo using the "majordomo-1.94.5-2.i386.rpm" rpm on RH 7.2. Can someone please send me a copy of their Exim config file so I can see exactly which entries to make to the config file. I've been through many tutorials online on this topic but to no avail. Any help is greatly appreciated, Thanks in advance, Mike From majordomo-users-owner@greatcircle.com Mon Jul 14 11:45:09 2003 Received: from mta10.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta10.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.45]) by mycroft.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 727FA195A54 for ; Mon, 14 Jul 2003 11:45:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: from asv11.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (asv11.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.145]) by mta10.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.16 (built May 14 2003)) with ESMTP id <0HI1006NL2R6Q1@mta10.srv.hcvlny.cv.net> for majordomo-users@greatcircle.com; Mon, 14 Jul 2003 14:45:06 -0400 (EDT) Received: from magnatechonline.com (ool-182eda88.dyn.optonline.net [24.46.218.136]) by asv11.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (8.12.9/8.12.9) with SMTP id h6EIibJd022705; Mon, 14 Jul 2003 14:44:38 -0400 (EDT) Received: from tech1 by magnatechonline.com with smtp id aa00433; Mon, 14 Jul 2003 14:44:01 -0400 (EDT) Date: Mon, 14 Jul 2003 14:52:07 -0400 From: Michael Arena Subject: Re: Exim/Majordomo To: Richard Welty Cc: majordomo-users@greatcircle.com Message-id: <000b01c34a39$06eb96c0$0f01a8c0@magnatechonline.com> X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-priority: Normal References: <001c01c347b3$6b1badc0$0f01a8c0@magnatechonline.com> <3F0F2BD6.8020803@sonny.org> <001c01c34a1d$0754a280$0f01a8c0@magnatechonline.com> <3F12E371.80406@sonny.org> X-Archive-Number: 200307/58 X-Sequence-Number: 3488 Richard, I tried using your tutorial but it got a bit confusing at points and I don't think I completed it correctly. I'm using Exim 4.01-1 on RH 7.2. For instance, in the entry you said to put in the Router Configuration section, what entry should I have for th "data =" line, should that be the path to my lists.aliases file? Also for the basic alias file entry you list, is that part of the lists.aliases file? How can I test all this out?? Thanks Richard, Mike ----- Original Message ----- From: "Richard Welty" To: "Majordomo-users" Sent: Monday, July 14, 2003 2:28 PM Subject: Re: Exim/Majordomo > On Mon, 14 Jul 2003 12:08:01 -0500 Daniel Liston wrote: > > > Please CC: the majordomo-users Mike. I am very weak when it comes to > > exim, and there are a LOT of exim users on the list to correct me if > > I tell you something wrong. > > i reading this email, i'm wondering if michael has exim 3 and exim 4 > crossed up. there are numerous detail changes from 3 to 4, and using the > wrong setup instructions can lead to this sort of confusion. > > so michael, which exim version are you running and where did you get your > instructions for exim/majordomo setup? > > richard > -- > Richard Welty > rwelty@suespammers.org Averill Park Networking > rwelty@averillpark.net Unix, Linux, IP Network Engineering, Security > rwelty@krusty-motorsports.com 518-573-7592 > > From majordomo-users-owner@greatcircle.com Mon Jul 14 12:25:04 2003 Received: from krusty-motorsports.com (krusty-motorsports.com [192.94.170.8]) by mycroft.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9D6BA196B29 for ; Mon, 14 Jul 2003 12:25:02 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [24.194.112.77] (helo=skipper.averillpark.net) by krusty-motorsports.com with asmtp (TLSv1:DES-CBC3-SHA:168) (Exim 4.14) id 19c8wX-0001zX-T1 for majordomo-users@greatcircle.com; Mon, 14 Jul 2003 19:25:01 +0000 Received: from rwelty by skipper.averillpark.net with local (Exim 4.14) id 19c8ud-0002Xu-UF for majordomo-users@greatcircle.com; Mon, 14 Jul 2003 15:23:03 -0400 Date: Mon, 14 Jul 2003 15:23:03 -0400 (EDT) From: Richard Welty Subject: Re: Exim/Majordomo To: majordomo-users@greatcircle.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII Content-Disposition: INLINE References: <001c01c347b3$6b1badc0$0f01a8c0@magnatechonline.com> <3F0F2BD6.8020803@sonny.org> <001c01c34a1d$0754a280$0f01a8c0@magnatechonline.com> <3F12E371.80406@sonny.org> <000b01c34a39$06eb96c0$0f01a8c0@magnatechonline.com> In-Reply-To: <000b01c34a39$06eb96c0$0f01a8c0@magnatechonline.com> X-Mailer: Mahogany 0.64 'Sparc', compiled for Linux 2.4.9-13 i686 Message-Id: X-Habeas-SWE-1: winter into spring X-Habeas-SWE-2: brightly anticipated X-Habeas-SWE-3: like Habeas SWE (tm) X-Habeas-SWE-4: Copyright 2002 Habeas (tm) X-Habeas-SWE-5: Sender Warranted Email (SWE) (tm). The sender of this X-Habeas-SWE-6: email in exchange for a license for this Habeas X-Habeas-SWE-7: warrant mark warrants that this is a Habeas Compliant X-Habeas-SWE-8: Message (HCM) and not spam. Please report use of this X-Habeas-SWE-9: mark in spam to . X-Archive-Number: 200307/59 X-Sequence-Number: 3489 On Mon, 14 Jul 2003 14:52:07 -0400 Michael Arena wrote: > Richard, > I tried using your tutorial but it got a bit confusing at points and I > don't > think I completed it correctly. I'm using Exim 4.01-1 on RH 7.2. you might want to upgrade that. there are numerous improvements in the current release 4.14, and 4.20 is in testing but not quite ready for prime time. i'm pretty sure that there are rpms for 4.14 around. > For instance, in the entry you said to put in the Router Configuration > section, what entry should I have for th "data =" line, should that be > the path to my lists.aliases file? sort of. it needs to be a specification for how to search the file, as well as providing the path to the file, e.g. data = ${lookup{$local_part}lsearch{/usr/share/local/exim/example.com.aliases}} this specifies that we are to use the local_part of the incoming address to do a text search (lsearch) of a file in simple alias format. whatever is to the right of the colon is returned as the data item. if you wanted to use berkeley db to do the searches (not unreasonable on a Very Large Mail Server), there is an alternative to lsearch that does that. you could even get them out of an SQL database like PostgreSQL or MySQL; exim supports that too (and LDAP, for that matter). text search or berkely db style is probably more than enough, though. > Also for the basic alias file entry you list, is that part of the > lists.aliases file? it should be part of whatever alias file you give a path to. exim imposes no restriction on number of alias files, i typically run from 1 to 3 per virtual domain (if majordomo is hosted on the domain, i have two for majordomo and one for non-majordomo aliases.) > How can I test all this out?? exim -bt is your friend. exim -bt listname@example.com will give you a basic test. exim -bt -v listname@example.com will give you more detail. if it's not enough (usually it is), one of the -d options can give you enough debugging output to choke a small horse. cheers, richard -- Richard Welty rwelty@suespammers.org Averill Park Networking rwelty@averillpark.net Unix, Linux, IP Network Engineering, Security rwelty@krusty-motorsports.com 518-573-7592 From majordomo-users-owner@greatcircle.com Mon Jul 14 13:00:23 2003 Received: from mta11.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta11.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.46]) by mycroft.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 19E1019648D for ; Mon, 14 Jul 2003 13:00:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: from asv6.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (asv6.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.61]) by mta11.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.16 (built May 14 2003)) with ESMTP id <0HI100EL168KQO@mta11.srv.hcvlny.cv.net> for majordomo-users@greatcircle.com; Mon, 14 Jul 2003 16:00:20 -0400 (EDT) Received: from magnatechonline.com (ool-182eda88.dyn.optonline.net [24.46.218.136]) by asv6.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (8.12.9/8.12.9) with SMTP id h6EK0GaC008667; Mon, 14 Jul 2003 16:00:17 -0400 (EDT) Received: from tech1 by magnatechonline.com with smtp id aa01994; Mon, 14 Jul 2003 15:59:53 -0400 (EDT) Date: Mon, 14 Jul 2003 16:08:00 -0400 From: Michael Arena Subject: Re: Exim/Majordomo To: Richard Welty Cc: majordomo-users@greatcircle.com Message-id: <000d01c34a43$a06454e0$0f01a8c0@magnatechonline.com> X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-priority: Normal References: <001c01c347b3$6b1badc0$0f01a8c0@magnatechonline.com> <3F0F2BD6.8020803@sonny.org> <001c01c34a1d$0754a280$0f01a8c0@magnatechonline.com> <3F12E371.80406@sonny.org> <000b01c34a39$06eb96c0$0f01a8c0@magnatechonline.com> X-Archive-Number: 200307/60 X-Sequence-Number: 3490 Richard, Ok, I made those changes to my config file, now when I run exim -bt sample@mydomain.com it keeps replying with "Unroutable address" These lists do not need to receive email from the outside, in fact I setup exim to ignore all incoming mail for security reasons on the mail server. I want to send mail to my list from inside the network and have it go out to all the members I specify on my list. Would I even need a lists.aliases file in my case? Can I test this internal configuration somehow? Thanks for all your help, Mike ----- Original Message ----- From: "Richard Welty" To: Sent: Monday, July 14, 2003 3:23 PM Subject: Re: Exim/Majordomo > On Mon, 14 Jul 2003 14:52:07 -0400 Michael Arena wrote: > > > Richard, > > I tried using your tutorial but it got a bit confusing at points and I > > don't > > think I completed it correctly. I'm using Exim 4.01-1 on RH 7.2. > > you might want to upgrade that. there are numerous improvements in the > current release 4.14, and 4.20 is in testing but not quite ready for prime > time. i'm pretty sure that there are rpms for 4.14 around. > > > For instance, in the entry you said to put in the Router Configuration > > section, what entry should I have for th "data =" line, should that be > > the path to my lists.aliases file? > > sort of. it needs to be a specification for how to search the file, as well > as providing the path to the file, e.g. > > data = ${lookup{$local_part}lsearch{/usr/share/local/exim/example.com.aliases}} > > this specifies that we are to use the local_part of the incoming address to > do a text search (lsearch) of a file in simple alias format. whatever is to > the right of the colon is returned as the data item. if you wanted to use > berkeley db to do the searches (not unreasonable on a Very Large Mail > Server), there is an alternative to lsearch that does that. you could even > get them out of an SQL database like PostgreSQL or MySQL; exim supports > that too (and LDAP, for that matter). > > text search or berkely db style is probably more than enough, though. > > > Also for the basic alias file entry you list, is that part of the > > lists.aliases file? > > it should be part of whatever alias file you give a path to. exim imposes > no restriction on number of alias files, i typically run from 1 to 3 per > virtual domain (if majordomo is hosted on the domain, i have two for > majordomo and one for non-majordomo aliases.) > > > How can I test all this out?? > > exim -bt is your friend. > > exim -bt listname@example.com > > will give you a basic test. > > exim -bt -v listname@example.com > > will give you more detail. if it's not enough (usually it is), one of the > -d options can give you enough debugging output to choke a small horse. > > cheers, > richard > -- > Richard Welty > rwelty@suespammers.org Averill Park Networking > rwelty@averillpark.net Unix, Linux, IP Network Engineering, Security > rwelty@krusty-motorsports.com 518-573-7592 > > From majordomo-users-owner@greatcircle.com Mon Jul 14 13:16:07 2003 Received: from krusty-motorsports.com (krusty-motorsports.com [192.94.170.8]) by mycroft.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6D9C2197045 for ; Mon, 14 Jul 2003 13:16:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [24.194.112.77] (helo=skipper.averillpark.net) by krusty-motorsports.com with asmtp (TLSv1:DES-CBC3-SHA:168) (Exim 4.14) id 19c9jw-0002lQ-Cw for majordomo-users@greatcircle.com; Mon, 14 Jul 2003 20:16:04 +0000 Received: from rwelty by skipper.averillpark.net with local (Exim 4.14) id 19c9ip-0002ba-Oh for majordomo-users@greatcircle.com; Mon, 14 Jul 2003 16:14:55 -0400 Date: Mon, 14 Jul 2003 16:14:55 -0400 (EDT) From: Richard Welty Subject: Re: Exim/Majordomo To: majordomo-users@greatcircle.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII Content-Disposition: INLINE References: <001c01c347b3$6b1badc0$0f01a8c0@magnatechonline.com> <3F0F2BD6.8020803@sonny.org> <001c01c34a1d$0754a280$0f01a8c0@magnatechonline.com> <3F12E371.80406@sonny.org> <000b01c34a39$06eb96c0$0f01a8c0@magnatechonline.com> <000d01c34a43$a06454e0$0f01a8c0@magnatechonline.com> In-Reply-To: <000d01c34a43$a06454e0$0f01a8c0@magnatechonline.com> X-Mailer: Mahogany 0.64 'Sparc', compiled for Linux 2.4.9-13 i686 Message-Id: X-Habeas-SWE-1: winter into spring X-Habeas-SWE-2: brightly anticipated X-Habeas-SWE-3: like Habeas SWE (tm) X-Habeas-SWE-4: Copyright 2002 Habeas (tm) X-Habeas-SWE-5: Sender Warranted Email (SWE) (tm). The sender of this X-Habeas-SWE-6: email in exchange for a license for this Habeas X-Habeas-SWE-7: warrant mark warrants that this is a Habeas Compliant X-Habeas-SWE-8: Message (HCM) and not spam. Please report use of this X-Habeas-SWE-9: mark in spam to . X-Archive-Number: 200307/61 X-Sequence-Number: 3491 On Mon, 14 Jul 2003 16:08:00 -0400 Michael Arena wrote: > Richard, > Ok, I made those changes to my config file, now when I run exim -bt > sample@mydomain.com it keeps replying with "Unroutable address" ok, what do you get with exim -bt -v and the email address for your lists? unroutable address likely means that it didn't manage to match up on any of the routers, so we need to understand why none of the routers matched. > These > lists > do not need to receive email from the outside, in fact I setup exim to > ignore all incoming mail for security reasons on the mail server. I want > to > send mail to my list from inside the network and have it go out to all > the > members I specify on my list. Would I even need a lists.aliases file in > my > case? Can I test this internal configuration somehow? you will need the aliases file unless you decide to get really clever in your exim config; i think you should get standard style install with aliases file working before you try to do anything else. it's easy enough to hide the addresses from external parties, that's what the private alias files are for in my example on the web site -- so that the -outgoing addresses are not accessible to the whole world. richard -- Richard Welty rwelty@suespammers.org Averill Park Networking rwelty@averillpark.net Unix, Linux, IP Network Engineering, Security rwelty@krusty-motorsports.com 518-573-7592 From majordomo-users-owner@greatcircle.com Mon Jul 14 13:24:43 2003 Received: from scanmail1.cableone.net (scanmail1.cableone.net [24.116.0.121]) by mycroft.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 05898197037 for ; Mon, 14 Jul 2003 13:24:35 -0700 (PDT) Received: from scanmail1.cableone.net ([10.116.0.121]) by scanmail1.cableone.net with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1877.687.68); Mon, 14 Jul 2003 13:23:48 -0700 Received: from scanmail1.cableone.net [24.116.0.121] by scanmail1.cableone.net (SMTPD32-7.04) id A15469030138; Mon, 14 Jul 2003 13:23:48 -0700 Received: from daniel.liston.nu (24-116-58-25.cpe.cableone.net [24.116.58.25]) by mail.cableone.net with SMTP (MailShield v2.04 - WIN32 Jul 17 2001 17:12:42); Mon, 14 Jul 2003 13:23:47 -0600 Received: from sonny.org ([192.168.1.60]) by daniel.liston.nu (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id h6EKOcl3030069; Mon, 14 Jul 2003 15:24:38 -0500 Message-ID: <3F131214.7010305@sonny.org> Date: Mon, 14 Jul 2003 15:27:00 -0500 From: Daniel Liston User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.4) Gecko/20030624 Netscape/7.1 (ax) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Dave Fontaine Cc: majordomo-users@greatcircle.com Subject: Re: Unable to expand a distribution list References: <16E4F48F81558E45963EB9498A81C2B9645B@wchqex01.capwin.org> In-Reply-To: <16E4F48F81558E45963EB9498A81C2B9645B@wchqex01.capwin.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-SMTP-HELO: daniel.liston.nu X-SMTP-MAIL-FROM: dliston@sonny.org X-SMTP-PEER-INFO: 24-116-58-25.cpe.cableone.net [24.116.58.25] X-Archive-Number: 200307/62 X-Sequence-Number: 3492 Please post the section of /var/log/maillog related to this error so we can try to diagnose your situation. What does the alias for newsletter-dist: look like? What does the alias for newsletter: look like? Dan Liston Dave Fontaine wrote: > Hello all, > Have run into a problem while attempting to make a submission. I can > execute the config, lists, help type commands with no hitches > whatsoever. The error that I am getting is: > **************************** > > newsletter-dist@listserv.mydomain.org on 7/10/2003 5:40 PM > Unable to expand a distribution list to deliver the message > to its members. Try again or contact your system administrator. > < listserv.mydomain.org #5.2.4> > > > **************************** > I am running Redhat 8.0, sendmail 8.12.5-7, and Majordomo 1.94.5. > I have done the following to try to correct the problem, but still > nothing: > > I have added 'Tmajordomo' to the sendmail.cf and submit.cf files and > ensured that the Trusted users line was NOT commented out. I have added > majordomo to the trusted-users file in '/etc/mail/'. > > I have verified permissions and ownerships as per section 2.1 of the > Great Circle Majordomo FAQs, 640 for files, 751 for directories and x > bit set for all major scripts - wrapper, resend, etc. > > I have verified that wrapper was installed setuid. > > I have run the './wrapper config-test' as a third party user and the > results were 100% positive. Which leads me to believe that this is a > sendmail problem. > > PLEASE help, anyone! :) > -Dave From majordomo-users-owner@greatcircle.com Mon Jul 14 13:28:13 2003 Received: from scanmail1.cableone.net (scanmail1.cableone.net [24.116.0.121]) by mycroft.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8428B1966FC for ; Mon, 14 Jul 2003 13:28:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: from scanmail1.cableone.net ([10.116.0.121]) by scanmail1.cableone.net with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1877.687.68); Mon, 14 Jul 2003 13:27:16 -0700 Received: from scanmail1.cableone.net [24.116.0.121] by scanmail1.cableone.net (SMTPD32-7.04) id A223BB00148; Mon, 14 Jul 2003 13:27:15 -0700 Received: from daniel.liston.nu (24-116-58-25.cpe.cableone.net [24.116.58.25]) by mail.cableone.net with SMTP (MailShield v2.04 - WIN32 Jul 17 2001 17:12:42); Mon, 14 Jul 2003 13:27:14 -0600 Received: from sonny.org ([192.168.1.60]) by daniel.liston.nu (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id h6EKS5l3030095; Mon, 14 Jul 2003 15:28:05 -0500 Message-ID: <3F1312E2.40204@sonny.org> Date: Mon, 14 Jul 2003 15:30:26 -0500 From: Daniel Liston User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.4) Gecko/20030624 Netscape/7.1 (ax) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Bob Hoffmaster Cc: majordomo-users@greatcircle.com Subject: Re: can't get 'approve' to work... References: <83B4938C35075E4C82C357A4FF267C8303DA2170@zipwire.esri.com> In-Reply-To: <83B4938C35075E4C82C357A4FF267C8303DA2170@zipwire.esri.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-SMTP-HELO: daniel.liston.nu X-SMTP-MAIL-FROM: dliston@sonny.org X-SMTP-PEER-INFO: 24-116-58-25.cpe.cableone.net [24.116.58.25] X-Archive-Number: 200307/63 X-Sequence-Number: 3493 This "sounds like" a classic case of not using the resend script in the alias for your list. Please post the aliases for the list, or at least a touched up facsimile, for us to examine. Dan Liston Bob Hoffmaster wrote: > List; > > I can't seem to get the 'approve' process working correctly. > > Running majordomo on RedHat 9. ' wrapper config-test' checks out ok when > running the check as non-root user. I have the 'moderate' variable set > (moderate = yes ) in the "test.config" file and the 'moderator' variable set > to my e-mail ( moderator = bhoffmaster@esri.com). E-mails sent to my "test" > list are not held for moderator approval, but sent straight to the list. No > "request to moderate" email is received by the moderator. > > Other list functions work ok (send to list works, list responds to requests, > etc). > > Any help would be appreciated. > > Thanks > Bob Hoffmaster > bhoffmaster@esri.com From majordomo-users-owner@greatcircle.com Mon Jul 14 13:32:07 2003 Received: from mta2.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta2.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.5]) by mycroft.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C5AB8196021 for ; Mon, 14 Jul 2003 13:32:04 -0700 (PDT) Received: from asv2.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (asv2.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.151]) by mta2.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.16 (built May 14 2003)) with ESMTP id <0HI1001H87PDMX@mta2.srv.hcvlny.cv.net> for majordomo-users@greatcircle.com; Mon, 14 Jul 2003 16:32:01 -0400 (EDT) Received: from magnatechonline.com (ool-182eda88.dyn.optonline.net [24.46.218.136]) by asv2.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (8.12.9/8.12.9) with SMTP id h6EKVjIc009766; Mon, 14 Jul 2003 16:31:47 -0400 (EDT) Received: from tech1 by magnatechonline.com with smtp id aa03249; Mon, 14 Jul 2003 16:32:01 -0400 (EDT) Date: Mon, 14 Jul 2003 16:40:07 -0400 From: Michael Arena Subject: Re: Exim/Majordomo To: Richard Welty Cc: majordomo-users@greatcircle.com Message-id: <000901c34a48$1ddc8d80$0f01a8c0@magnatechonline.com> X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-priority: Normal References: <001c01c347b3$6b1badc0$0f01a8c0@magnatechonline.com> <3F0F2BD6.8020803@sonny.org> <001c01c34a1d$0754a280$0f01a8c0@magnatechonline.com> <3F12E371.80406@sonny.org> <000b01c34a39$06eb96c0$0f01a8c0@magnatechonline.com> <000d01c34a43$a06454e0$0f01a8c0@magnatechonline.com> X-Archive-Number: 200307/64 X-Sequence-Number: 3494 all I get when I run "exim -bt -v sample@mydomain.com" is the following: "sample@mydomain.com is undeliverable: Unrouteable address" and my lists.aliases file looks like this: sample: "|/usr/lib/majordomo/wrapper resend -l sample -h mydomain.com -f owner-sample sample-out@mydomain.com" sample-digest: sample@mydomain.com sample-request: "|/usr/lib/majordomo/wrapper majordomo -l sample" sample-digest-request: "|/usr/lib/majordomo/wrapper majordomo -l sample-digest" owner-sample-out: listadmin@mydomain.com sample-approval: listadmin@mydomain.com sample-digest-approval: listadmin@mydomain.com owner-sample-digest-outgoing: listadmin@mydomain.com owner-sample: listadmin@mydomain.com owner-sample-digest: listadmin@mydomain.com sample-owner: listadmin@mydomain.com sample-digest-owner: listadmin@mydomain.com any help is greatly appreciated, thanks Mike ----- Original Message ----- From: "Richard Welty" To: Sent: Monday, July 14, 2003 4:14 PM Subject: Re: Exim/Majordomo > On Mon, 14 Jul 2003 16:08:00 -0400 Michael Arena wrote: > > > Richard, > > Ok, I made those changes to my config file, now when I run exim -bt > > sample@mydomain.com it keeps replying with "Unroutable address" > > ok, what do you get with exim -bt -v and the email address for your lists? > unroutable address likely means that it didn't manage to match up on any > of the routers, so we need to understand why none of the routers matched. > > > These > > lists > > do not need to receive email from the outside, in fact I setup exim to > > ignore all incoming mail for security reasons on the mail server. I want > > to > > send mail to my list from inside the network and have it go out to all > > the > > members I specify on my list. Would I even need a lists.aliases file in > > my > > case? Can I test this internal configuration somehow? > > you will need the aliases file unless you decide to get really clever in > your exim config; i think you should get standard style install with > aliases file working before you try to do anything else. > > it's easy enough to hide the addresses from external parties, that's what > the private alias files are for in my example on the web site -- so that > the -outgoing addresses are not accessible to the whole world. > > richard > -- > Richard Welty > rwelty@suespammers.org Averill Park Networking > rwelty@averillpark.net Unix, Linux, IP Network Engineering, Security > rwelty@krusty-motorsports.com 518-573-7592 > > From majordomo-users-owner@greatcircle.com Mon Jul 14 13:54:11 2003 Received: from naccrra.org (ns1.naccrra.org [66.7.23.130]) by mycroft.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 255621970DF for ; Mon, 14 Jul 2003 13:54:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: from javadev1 (user254.hudson.il.dtnspeed.net [12.158.3.254]) by naccrra.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h6EKqSF01362 for ; Mon, 14 Jul 2003 16:52:28 -0400 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" From: "Dwight F. Powell" Reply-To: dpowell@naccrra.org To: majordomo-users@greatcircle.com Subject: Re: can't get 'approve' to work... Date: Mon, 14 Jul 2003 15:42:07 -0500 User-Agent: KMail/1.4.2 References: <83B4938C35075E4C82C357A4FF267C8303DA2170@zipwire.esri.com> In-Reply-To: <83B4938C35075E4C82C357A4FF267C8303DA2170@zipwire.esri.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Message-Id: <200307141542.07400.dpowell@naccrra.org> X-Archive-Number: 200307/65 X-Sequence-Number: 3495 I'm also having similar problems - I've made changes to the config file for my new list, but none of the special functions in the config file seem to be working, like moderation and list headers. Is there something special I need to do to "activate" or load the changes to the config file? And a better question - is there a "manual" for majordomo somewhere out there that I can refer to for more info on setup and configuration? I've found an older FAQ out there and read all of the docs that come bundled with Majordomo, but I guess I'm still missining something. FYI - I'm running RedHat 7.3 and sendmail 8.11. Thanks in advance. -- Dwight Powell Manager of Systems / Lead Programmer NACCRRA | The Nation's Network of Child Care Resource and Referral dpowell@naccrra.org ---- On Monday 14 July 2003 01:13 pm, you wrote: > List; > > I can't seem to get the 'approve' process working correctly. > > Running majordomo on RedHat 9. ' wrapper config-test' checks out ok when > running the check as non-root user. I have the 'moderate' variable set > (moderate = yes ) in the "test.config" file and the 'moderator' variable > set to my e-mail ( moderator = bhoffmaster@esri.com). E-mails sent to my > "test" list are not held for moderator approval, but sent straight to the > list. No "request to moderate" email is received by the moderator. > > Other list functions work ok (send to list works, list responds to > requests, etc). > > Any help would be appreciated. > > Thanks > Bob Hoffmaster > bhoffmaster@esri.com From majordomo-users-owner@greatcircle.com Mon Jul 14 14:47:02 2003 Received: from scanmail1.cableone.net (scanmail1.cableone.net [24.116.0.121]) by mycroft.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 978251959F4 for ; Mon, 14 Jul 2003 14:47:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: from scanmail1.cableone.net ([10.116.0.121]) by scanmail1.cableone.net with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1877.687.68); Mon, 14 Jul 2003 14:46:14 -0700 Received: from scanmail1.cableone.net [24.116.0.121] by scanmail1.cableone.net (SMTPD32-7.04) id A4A673620138; Mon, 14 Jul 2003 14:46:14 -0700 Received: from daniel.liston.nu (24-116-58-25.cpe.cableone.net [24.116.58.25]) by mail.cableone.net with SMTP (MailShield v2.04 - WIN32 Jul 17 2001 17:12:42); Mon, 14 Jul 2003 14:46:14 -0600 Received: from sonny.org ([192.168.1.60]) by daniel.liston.nu (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id h6ELkxl3030553; Mon, 14 Jul 2003 16:46:59 -0500 Message-ID: <3F132566.2090907@sonny.org> Date: Mon, 14 Jul 2003 16:49:26 -0500 From: Daniel Liston User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.4) Gecko/20030624 Netscape/7.1 (ax) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: dpowell@naccrra.org Cc: majordomo-users@greatcircle.com Subject: Re: can't get 'approve' to work... References: <83B4938C35075E4C82C357A4FF267C8303DA2170@zipwire.esri.com> <200307141542.07400.dpowell@naccrra.org> In-Reply-To: <200307141542.07400.dpowell@naccrra.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-SMTP-HELO: daniel.liston.nu X-SMTP-MAIL-FROM: dliston@sonny.org X-SMTP-PEER-INFO: 24-116-58-25.cpe.cableone.net [24.116.58.25] X-Archive-Number: 200307/66 X-Sequence-Number: 3496 First, the config file does not get used at all unless your alias for the list properly calls the resend script. Changes to the config file itself are dynamic. They are available for the next time a message comes through resend to your list. If you did a tarbal compile and install, the manuals are in the `man` pages, and in the Doc directory README and example files. If you used the RedHat RPM installer, they are in /usr/doc/majordomo-1.94.5/ directory. The file, list-owner-info is very educational. I wrote some HOW-TO docs over the last couple years that were posted to the majordomo-docs list which might help, and a perl script that will create your mailing list aliases for you simply by interactively answering questions the scripts asks you. Check these out at; ftp://ftp.ccsf.org/majordomo-contrib/archive-Digest-HOW-TO.1 and ftp://ftp.ccsf.org/majordomo-contrib/listadd4.pl.gz There is also; ftp://ftp.ccsf.org/majordomo-contrib/majordomo_create-0.5b.tar.gz which may suit your needs. Dan Liston Dwight F. Powell wrote: > I'm also having similar problems - I've made changes to the config file for my > new list, but none of the special functions in the config file seem to be > working, like moderation and list headers. Is there something special I need > to do to "activate" or load the changes to the config file? > > And a better question - is there a "manual" for majordomo somewhere out there > that I can refer to for more info on setup and configuration? I've found an > older FAQ out there and read all of the docs that come bundled with > Majordomo, but I guess I'm still missining something. > > FYI - I'm running RedHat 7.3 and sendmail 8.11. > > Thanks in advance. > > -- > Dwight Powell > Manager of Systems / Lead Programmer > NACCRRA | The Nation's Network of Child Care Resource and Referral > dpowell@naccrra.org > > ---- On Monday 14 July 2003 01:13 pm, you wrote: >> List; >> >> I can't seem to get the 'approve' process working correctly. >> >> Running majordomo on RedHat 9. ' wrapper config-test' checks out ok when >> running the check as non-root user. I have the 'moderate' variable set >> (moderate = yes ) in the "test.config" file and the 'moderator' variable >> set to my e-mail ( moderator = bhoffmaster@esri.com). E-mails sent to my >> "test" list are not held for moderator approval, but sent straight to the >> list. No "request to moderate" email is received by the moderator. >> >> Other list functions work ok (send to list works, list responds to >> requests, etc). >> >> Any help would be appreciated. >> >> Thanks >> Bob Hoffmaster >> bhoffmaster@esri.com > From majordomo-users-owner@greatcircle.com Mon Jul 14 15:32:11 2003 Received: from scanmail1.cableone.net (scanmail1.cableone.net [24.116.0.121]) by mycroft.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6AD5B195F30 for ; Mon, 14 Jul 2003 15:32:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: from scanmail1.cableone.net ([10.116.0.121]) by scanmail1.cableone.net with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1877.687.68); Mon, 14 Jul 2003 15:31:16 -0700 Received: from scanmail1.cableone.net [24.116.0.121] by scanmail1.cableone.net (SMTPD32-7.04) id AF345B60146; Mon, 14 Jul 2003 15:31:16 -0700 Received: from daniel.liston.nu (24-116-58-25.cpe.cableone.net [24.116.58.25]) by mail.cableone.net with SMTP (MailShield v2.04 - WIN32 Jul 17 2001 17:12:42); Mon, 14 Jul 2003 15:31:15 -0600 Received: from sonny.org ([192.168.1.60]) by daniel.liston.nu (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id h6EMW1l3031051; Mon, 14 Jul 2003 17:32:01 -0500 Message-ID: <3F132FF4.4000601@sonny.org> Date: Mon, 14 Jul 2003 17:34:28 -0500 From: Daniel Liston User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.4) Gecko/20030624 Netscape/7.1 (ax) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Bob Hoffmaster , Majordomo-users Subject: Re: can't get 'approve' to work... References: <83B4938C35075E4C82C357A4FF267C8303DA2175@zipwire.esri.com> In-Reply-To: <83B4938C35075E4C82C357A4FF267C8303DA2175@zipwire.esri.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-SMTP-HELO: daniel.liston.nu X-SMTP-MAIL-FROM: dliston@sonny.org X-SMTP-PEER-INFO: 24-116-58-25.cpe.cableone.net [24.116.58.25] X-Archive-Number: 200307/67 X-Sequence-Number: 3497 I neutered your aliases so I can include the mailing list in my reply. The "NEWLIST" file all caps like that, in the doc directory, gives example aliases and explains them in the 3rd and longest bullet of "To create a list:". > test: "|/usr/test/majordomo-1.94.3/wrapper resend -l test test-list" > test-list: :include:/usr/test/majordomo-1.94.3/lists/test > owner-test: you, > test-owner: you > test-request: "|/usr/test/majordomo-1.94.3/wrapper majordomo -l test" If we examine the logic of an alias that does not use resend, how is majordomo involved at all, let alone using the config file to see what policies to enforce? Having an alias with just an :include: on the RightHandSide simply tells the MTA that all messages to this alias are redirected to all members of the file identified by the :include: statement. There is no involvement by majordomo here at all. Examining your test-request: alias, majordomo's only purpose is to auto-reply with instructions on how to join or leave your list without actually "doing" anything. The difference "above" on that same alias, is that "majordomo -l" instead of "request-answer" is used to really *do* something based on the body content of the email message that passes through the alias that calls majordomo. I modified the format of my test.config file a bit to help explain some more details built right into the comments section of the "moderate" setting. > # moderate > # [bool] (no) > # If yes, all postings to the list will be bounced to the moderator > # for approval. > moderate = no Normally the first two quoted comments above would be on the same line. The way I have it displayed, is the first line is the command (setting) and the second line explains the "type" of setting, boolean (yes/no) the default setting of "no", and which supporting scripts use this setting. In the case of moderate, ONLY resend uses this setting. Without resend in the test: alias, this setting will never be seen or used. Without a moderated list, when would you ever have to "approve" anything? If we take another look at the test.config file comments about; > # approve_passwd > # [word] (test.pass) > # Password to be used in the approved header to allow posting to > # moderated list, or to bypass resend checks. > approve_passwd = test.pass We find that ONLY resend does anything with this setting too. Noting the first quote above from the NEWLIST file, we can see that the examples have not changed since at least version 1.94.3 Dan Liston Bob Hoffmaster wrote: > Daniel; > Here are the entries in my 'aliases' file: > > #Majordomo > majordomo: "|/usr/test/majordomo-1.94.5/wrapper majordomo" > owner-majordomo: me > majordomo-owner: me > # > # test list: > test: :include:/usr/test/majordomo-1.94.5/lists/test > owner-test: me > test-owner: me > test-request: "|/usr/test/majordomo-1.94.5/wrapper request-answer test" > test-approval: me > > > where in the docs does it say the resend script is needed for the approve > function? > > Thanks > Bob > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Daniel Liston [mailto:dliston@sonny.org] > Sent: Monday, July 14, 2003 1:30 PM > To: Bob Hoffmaster > Cc: majordomo-users@greatcircle.com > Subject: Re: can't get 'approve' to work... > > > This "sounds like" a classic case of not using the resend script > in the alias for your list. Please post the aliases for the > list, or at least a touched up facsimile, for us to examine. > > Dan Liston > > Bob Hoffmaster wrote: > >> List; >> >> I can't seem to get the 'approve' process working correctly. >> >> Running majordomo on RedHat 9. ' wrapper config-test' checks out ok when >> running the check as non-root user. I have the 'moderate' variable set >> (moderate = yes ) in the "test.config" file and the 'moderator' variable > set >> to my e-mail ( moderator = bhoffmaster@esri.com). E-mails sent to my > "test" >> list are not held for moderator approval, but sent straight to the list. > No >> "request to moderate" email is received by the moderator. >> >> Other list functions work ok (send to list works, list responds to > requests, >> etc). >> >> Any help would be appreciated. >> >> Thanks >> Bob Hoffmaster >> bhoffmaster@esri.com > From majordomo-users-owner@greatcircle.com Mon Jul 14 22:05:16 2003 Received: from fed1mtao08.cox.net (fed1mtao08.cox.net [68.6.19.123]) by mycroft.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B3E4C1967F3 for ; Mon, 14 Jul 2003 22:05:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: from bobcat ([68.3.117.168]) by fed1mtao08.cox.net (InterMail vM.5.01.04.05 201-253-122-122-105-20011231) with ESMTP id <20030715050504.LBTK7156.fed1mtao08.cox.net@bobcat> for ; Tue, 15 Jul 2003 01:05:04 -0400 From: Gary Marklund To: "Majordomo-users" Subject: Need an alternative to demime Date: Mon, 14 Jul 2003 22:05:05 -0700 User-Agent: KMail/1.5.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200307142205.05820.Gary@Marklund.com> X-Archive-Number: 200307/68 X-Sequence-Number: 3498 I am in the process of setting up my first mailing list. I want to convert all html to plain text and remove any attachments. Demime is not an option. The list is hosted at 8-95.com which uses an "Ensim configured" majordomo. Their tech support informs me that I cannot modify the installation. Can anyone help with alternative approaches? The attachments are the biggest concern. Most subscribers can just not send html, except for anyone on AOL. TIA, Gary -- Gary W. Marklund Peoria, Arizona USA From majordomo-users-owner@greatcircle.com Tue Jul 15 04:19:52 2003 Received: from planet.fef.com (unknown [157.22.35.7]) by mycroft.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A41FE195A2A for ; Tue, 15 Jul 2003 04:19:50 -0700 (PDT) Received: from planet.fef.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by planet.fef.com (8.12.9/8.12.9/check_local-5) with ESMTP id h6FBJROP017212; Tue, 15 Jul 2003 04:19:27 -0700 Received: (from alvin@localhost) by planet.fef.com (8.12.9/8.12.4/Submit) id h6FBJQDY017211; Tue, 15 Jul 2003 04:19:26 -0700 From: Alvin Oga Message-Id: <200307151119.h6FBJQDY017211@planet.fef.com> Subject: Re: Need an alternative to demime To: Gary@Marklund.com (Gary Marklund) Date: Tue, 15 Jul 2003 04:19:26 -0700 (PDT) Cc: Majordomo-users@greatcircle.com In-Reply-To: <200307142205.05820.Gary@Marklund.com> from "Gary Marklund" at Jul 14, 2003 10:05:05 PM X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.5 PL1] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Archive-Number: 200307/69 X-Sequence-Number: 3499 hi gary you probably want t convrt html emails to text? and still disallow attachments ? http://www.linux-sec.net/Mail/AntiVirus/#MIME c ya alvin > Gary Marklund wrote: > > I am in the process of setting up my first mailing list. I want to convert all > html to plain text and remove any attachments. Demime is not an option. The > list is hosted at 8-95.com which uses an "Ensim configured" majordomo. Their > tech support informs me that I cannot modify the installation. Can anyone > help with alternative approaches? The attachments are the biggest concern. > Most subscribers can just not send html, except for anyone on AOL. > From majordomo-users-owner@greatcircle.com Tue Jul 15 06:36:48 2003 Received: from smtp.pspl.co.in (www.pspl.co.in [202.54.11.65]) by mycroft.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 363EC196330 for ; Tue, 15 Jul 2003 06:34:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by smtp.pspl.co.in (8.12.9/8.12.9) id h6FDbcHL027052 for ; Tue, 15 Jul 2003 19:07:38 +0530 Received: from gardner (oblixgw.pspl.co.in [202.54.11.84]) (authenticated bits=0) by smtp.pspl.co.in (8.12.9/8.12.9) with ESMTP id h6FDbc3Q027037 for ; Tue, 15 Jul 2003 19:07:38 +0530 Message-ID: <095701c34ad5$c6a8b320$6503a8c0@persistent.co.in> From: "Amod Phadke" To: Subject: Command line interface not working Date: Tue, 15 Jul 2003 19:04:11 +0530 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0954_01C34B03.E022FBC0" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 X-Spam-Status: No, hits=1.0 required=6.0 tests=HTML_30_40,HTML_MESSAGE version=2.54 X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.54 (1.174.2.17-2003-05-11-exp) X-Archive-Number: 200307/70 X-Sequence-Number: 3500 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0954_01C34B03.E022FBC0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi , I recently set majordomo lists on my mail server. I can see the lists and m= ake modifications to them using the web interface (majorcool). But somehow = the command line is not working for my setup. eg. When I send command "lists" to majordomo@mymailserver.co.in it doesn't = reply with the list of mailing lists available. Similar thing happens to any other command. When I chakec on my mail server= I can see all the mails sent to majordomo in the mailbox of 'majordomo' us= er. How do I get majordomo reply to these mails automatically ? Regards, Amod ------=_NextPart_000_0954_01C34B03.E022FBC0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hi ,
 
I recently set majordomo lists on my mail server. I can= see=20 the lists and make modifications to them using the web interface (majorcool= ).=20 But somehow the command line is not working for my setup.
 
eg. When I send command "lists" to majordomo@mymailserver.co.in it=20 doesn't reply with the list of mailing lists available.
 
Similar thing happens to any other command. When I chak= ec on=20 my mail server I can see all the mails sent to majordomo in the mailbox of= =20 'majordomo' user.
 
How do I get majordomo reply to these mails automatical= ly=20 ?
 
Regards,
Amod
------=_NextPart_000_0954_01C34B03.E022FBC0-- From majordomo-users-owner@greatcircle.com Tue Jul 15 07:23:51 2003 Received: from mta2.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta2.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.5]) by mycroft.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id CB8041961CF for ; Tue, 15 Jul 2003 07:23:49 -0700 (PDT) Received: from asv10.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (asv10.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.38]) by mta2.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.16 (built May 14 2003)) with ESMTP id <0HI2006N4L5PZJ@mta2.srv.hcvlny.cv.net> for majordomo-users@greatcircle.com; Tue, 15 Jul 2003 10:20:13 -0400 (EDT) Received: from magnatechonline.com (ool-182eda88.dyn.optonline.net [24.46.218.136]) by asv10.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (8.12.9/8.12.9) with SMTP id h6FEK9Xh015469; Tue, 15 Jul 2003 10:20:10 -0400 (EDT) Received: from tech1 by magnatechonline.com with smtp id aa21727; Tue, 15 Jul 2003 10:19:14 -0400 (EDT) Date: Tue, 15 Jul 2003 10:27:18 -0400 From: Michael Arena Subject: Exim/Majordomo To: Richard Welty Cc: majordomo-users@greatcircle.com Message-id: <000901c34add$32f12c40$0f01a8c0@magnatechonline.com> X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-priority: Normal X-Archive-Number: 200307/71 X-Sequence-Number: 3501 Interesting, now that the routing seems to be working when i try to send mail to thetest@192.168.1.250 from inside my network this is the entry it leaves in my Exim log: "2003-07-15 10:15:44 19cQam-0005nE-00 <= root@mydomain.org U=root P=local S=307 2003-07-15 10:15:45 19cQam-0005nE-00 ** thetest@192.168.1.250: Unrouteable address 2003-07-15 10:15:45 19cQan-0005nP-00 <= <> R=19cQam-0005nE-00 U=mike P=local S=1081 2003-07-15 10:15:45 19cQan-0005nP-00 == mike@mydomain.org R=majordomo_aliases defer (-1): failed to expand "${lookup{$local_part}lsearch{/var/lib/majordomo/lists/lists.aliases}}": failed to open /var/lib/majordomo/lists/lists.aliases for linear search: Permission denied (euid=501 egid=501) 2003-07-15 10:15:45 19cQam-0005nE-00 Completed" I set the owner and group of lists.aliases to be exim. Is that correct? thanks, Mike From majordomo-users-owner@greatcircle.com Tue Jul 15 07:33:10 2003 Received: from naccrra.org (ns1.naccrra.org [66.7.23.130]) by mycroft.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5788C19721C for ; Tue, 15 Jul 2003 07:33:02 -0700 (PDT) Received: from javadev1 (user254.hudson.il.dtnspeed.net [12.158.3.254]) by naccrra.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h6FEWFF24579; Tue, 15 Jul 2003 10:32:15 -0400 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" From: "Dwight F. Powell" Reply-To: dpowell@naccrra.org To: Daniel Liston , Majordomo-users Subject: Re: can't get 'approve' to work... Date: Tue, 15 Jul 2003 09:33:03 -0500 User-Agent: KMail/1.4.2 References: <83B4938C35075E4C82C357A4FF267C8303DA2175@zipwire.esri.com> <3F132FF4.4000601@sonny.org> In-Reply-To: <3F132FF4.4000601@sonny.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Message-Id: <200307150933.03404.dpowell@naccrra.org> X-Archive-Number: 200307/72 X-Sequence-Number: 3502 This is GREAT info Daniel! I used this info and the info you sent me about the Majordomo docs to totally reconfigure my list and ALL of the admin functions are now working like a chram! Thanks loads for your insight and expertise! ~~Dwight ---- On Monday 14 July 2003 05:34 pm, Daniel Liston wrote: > I neutered your aliases so I can include the mailing list in my reply. > The "NEWLIST" file all caps like that, in the doc directory, gives > example aliases and explains them in the 3rd and longest bullet of > "To create a list:". > > > test: "|/usr/test/majordomo-1.94.3/wrapper resend -l test > > test-list" test-list: :include:/usr/test/majordomo-1.94.3/lists/test > > owner-test: you, > > test-owner: you > > test-request: "|/usr/test/majordomo-1.94.3/wrapper majordomo -l > > test" > > If we examine the logic of an alias that does not use resend, > how is majordomo involved at all, let alone using the config file > to see what policies to enforce? > > Having an alias with just an :include: on the RightHandSide simply > tells the MTA that all messages to this alias are redirected to all > members of the file identified by the :include: statement. There is > no involvement by majordomo here at all. > > Examining your test-request: alias, majordomo's only purpose is to > auto-reply with instructions on how to join or leave your list > without actually "doing" anything. The difference "above" on that > same alias, is that "majordomo -l" instead of "request-answer" is > used to really *do* something based on the body content of the > email message that passes through the alias that calls majordomo. > > I modified the format of my test.config file a bit to help explain > some more details built right into the comments section of the > "moderate" setting. > > > # moderate > > # [bool] (no) > > # If yes, all postings to the list will be bounced to the > > moderator # for approval. > > moderate = no > > Normally the first two quoted comments above would be on the same line. > The way I have it displayed, is the first line is the command (setting) > and the second line explains the "type" of setting, boolean (yes/no) the > default setting of "no", and which supporting scripts use this setting. > In the case of moderate, ONLY resend uses this setting. Without resend > in the test: alias, this setting will never be seen or used. Without a > moderated list, when would you ever have to "approve" anything? If we > take another look at the test.config file comments about; > > > # approve_passwd > > # [word] (test.pass) > > # Password to be used in the approved header to allow posting to > > # moderated list, or to bypass resend checks. > > approve_passwd = test.pass > > We find that ONLY resend does anything with this setting too. > > Noting the first quote above from the NEWLIST file, we can see that > the examples have not changed since at least version 1.94.3 > > Dan Liston > > Bob Hoffmaster wrote: > > Daniel; > > Here are the entries in my 'aliases' file: > > > > #Majordomo > > majordomo: "|/usr/test/majordomo-1.94.5/wrapper majordomo" > > owner-majordomo: me > > majordomo-owner: me > > # > > # test list: > > test: :include:/usr/test/majordomo-1.94.5/lists/test > > owner-test: me > > test-owner: me > > test-request: "|/usr/test/majordomo-1.94.5/wrapper request-answer > > test" test-approval: me > > > > > > where in the docs does it say the resend script is needed for the approve > > function? > > > > Thanks > > Bob > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Daniel Liston [mailto:dliston@sonny.org] > > Sent: Monday, July 14, 2003 1:30 PM > > To: Bob Hoffmaster > > Cc: majordomo-users@greatcircle.com > > Subject: Re: can't get 'approve' to work... > > > > > > This "sounds like" a classic case of not using the resend script > > in the alias for your list. Please post the aliases for the > > list, or at least a touched up facsimile, for us to examine. > > > > Dan Liston > > > > Bob Hoffmaster wrote: > >> List; > >> > >> I can't seem to get the 'approve' process working correctly. > >> > >> Running majordomo on RedHat 9. ' wrapper config-test' checks out ok when > >> running the check as non-root user. I have the 'moderate' variable set > >> (moderate = yes ) in the "test.config" file and the 'moderator' variable > > > > set > > > >> to my e-mail ( moderator = bhoffmaster@esri.com). E-mails sent to my > > > > "test" > > > >> list are not held for moderator approval, but sent straight to the list. > > > > No > > > >> "request to moderate" email is received by the moderator. > >> > >> Other list functions work ok (send to list works, list responds to > > > > requests, > > > >> etc). > >> > >> Any help would be appreciated. > >> > >> Thanks > >> Bob Hoffmaster > >> bhoffmaster@esri.com -- Dwight Powell Manager of Systems / Lead Programmer NACCRRA | The Nation's Network of Child Care Resource and Referral dpowell@naccrra.org From majordomo-users-owner@greatcircle.com Tue Jul 15 07:55:09 2003 Received: from krusty-motorsports.com (krusty-motorsports.com [192.94.170.8]) by mycroft.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7EC981971B1 for ; Tue, 15 Jul 2003 07:55:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [24.194.112.77] (helo=skipper.averillpark.net) by krusty-motorsports.com with asmtp (TLSv1:DES-CBC3-SHA:168) (Exim 4.14) id 19cRCs-0000E1-IH for majordomo-users@greatcircle.com; Tue, 15 Jul 2003 14:55:06 +0000 Received: from rwelty by skipper.averillpark.net with local (Exim 4.14) id 19cRAN-0003gi-DD for majordomo-users@greatcircle.com; Tue, 15 Jul 2003 10:52:31 -0400 Date: Tue, 15 Jul 2003 10:52:31 -0400 (EDT) From: Richard Welty Subject: Re: Exim/Majordomo To: majordomo-users@greatcircle.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII Content-Disposition: INLINE References: <000901c34add$32f12c40$0f01a8c0@magnatechonline.com> In-Reply-To: <000901c34add$32f12c40$0f01a8c0@magnatechonline.com> X-Mailer: Mahogany 0.64 'Sparc', compiled for Linux 2.4.9-13 i686 Message-Id: X-Habeas-SWE-1: winter into spring X-Habeas-SWE-2: brightly anticipated X-Habeas-SWE-3: like Habeas SWE (tm) X-Habeas-SWE-4: Copyright 2002 Habeas (tm) X-Habeas-SWE-5: Sender Warranted Email (SWE) (tm). The sender of this X-Habeas-SWE-6: email in exchange for a license for this Habeas X-Habeas-SWE-7: warrant mark warrants that this is a Habeas Compliant X-Habeas-SWE-8: Message (HCM) and not spam. Please report use of this X-Habeas-SWE-9: mark in spam to . X-Archive-Number: 200307/73 X-Sequence-Number: 3503 On Tue, 15 Jul 2003 10:27:18 -0400 Michael Arena wrote: > R=majordomo_aliases defer (-1): failed to expand > "${lookup{$local_part}lsearch{/var/lib/majordomo/lists/lists.aliases}}": > failed to open /var/lib/majordomo/lists/lists.aliases for linear search: > Permission denied (euid=501 egid=501) > 2003-07-15 10:15:45 19cQam-0005nE-00 Completed" > > I set the owner and group of lists.aliases to be exim. Is that correct? mine are all root, permissions 644 (but then i don't have any dangerous users on my box.) what are the permissions for the intermediate directories in the path? richard -- Richard Welty rwelty@suespammers.org Averill Park Networking rwelty@averillpark.net Unix, Linux, IP Network Engineering, Security rwelty@krusty-motorsports.com 518-573-7592 From majordomo-users-owner@greatcircle.com Tue Jul 15 08:38:40 2003 Received: from mta10.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta10.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.45]) by mycroft.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A4D4C196B47 for ; Tue, 15 Jul 2003 08:38:38 -0700 (PDT) Received: from asv7.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (asv7.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.43]) by mta10.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.16 (built May 14 2003)) with ESMTP id <0HI200MCFOSBEJ@mta10.srv.hcvlny.cv.net> for majordomo-users@greatcircle.com; Tue, 15 Jul 2003 11:38:38 -0400 (EDT) Received: from magnatechonline.com (ool-182eda88.dyn.optonline.net [24.46.218.136]) by asv7.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (8.12.9/8.12.9) with SMTP id h6FFcMMP019083; Tue, 15 Jul 2003 11:38:23 -0400 (EDT) Received: from tech1 by magnatechonline.com with smtp id aa23375; Tue, 15 Jul 2003 11:38:38 -0400 (EDT) Date: Tue, 15 Jul 2003 11:46:44 -0400 From: Michael Arena Subject: Re: Exim/Majordomo To: Richard Welty Cc: majordomo-users@greatcircle.com Message-id: <001501c34ae8$4abeeb40$0f01a8c0@magnatechonline.com> X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-priority: Normal References: <000901c34add$32f12c40$0f01a8c0@magnatechonline.com> X-Archive-Number: 200307/74 X-Sequence-Number: 3504 Ok I corrected those permissions and groups and it seemed to go through now by the looks of the Exim log. Here's how it looks now: "2003-07-15 11:31:33 19cRm9-00024E-00 <= root@mydomain.org U=root P=local S=305 2003-07-15 11:31:33 19cRm9-00024E-00 => |/usr/lib/majordomo/wrapper archive2.pl -f /var/lib/majordomo/lists/thetest.archive/archive -M -a (thetest-archive@mydomain.org) R=system_aliases T=address_pipe 2003-07-15 11:31:33 19cRm9-00024E-00 => |/usr/lib/majordomo/wrapper resend -l thetest thetest-list R=system_aliases T=address_pipe 2003-07-15 11:31:33 19cRm9-00024E-00 Completed" Only problem is, of the two email addresses I added to the list, neither received the test post I sent. Is there any other way to test this out?? Thanks again, Mike ----- Original Message ----- From: "Richard Welty" To: Sent: Tuesday, July 15, 2003 10:52 AM Subject: Re: Exim/Majordomo > On Tue, 15 Jul 2003 10:27:18 -0400 Michael Arena wrote: > > R=majordomo_aliases defer (-1): failed to expand > > "${lookup{$local_part}lsearch{/var/lib/majordomo/lists/lists.aliases}}": > > failed to open /var/lib/majordomo/lists/lists.aliases for linear search: > > Permission denied (euid=501 egid=501) > > 2003-07-15 10:15:45 19cQam-0005nE-00 Completed" > > > > I set the owner and group of lists.aliases to be exim. Is that correct? > > mine are all root, permissions 644 (but then i don't have any dangerous > users on my box.) what are the permissions for the intermediate directories > in the path? > > richard > -- > Richard Welty > rwelty@suespammers.org Averill Park Networking > rwelty@averillpark.net Unix, Linux, IP Network Engineering, Security > rwelty@krusty-motorsports.com 518-573-7592 > > From majordomo-users-owner@greatcircle.com Tue Jul 15 09:12:21 2003 Received: from wrenkasky.com (esson.net [216.102.129.43]) by mycroft.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0A73F1971EE for ; Tue, 15 Jul 2003 09:12:18 -0700 (PDT) Received: from eds.wrenkasky.com (eds.wrenkasky.com [10.10.10.11]) by wrenkasky.com (8.12.9/8.12.9) with ESMTP id h6FGBZ2F003023 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NOT); Tue, 15 Jul 2003 09:11:39 -0700 Message-Id: <5.2.0.9.2.20030715090843.02e0b570@mail.esson.net> X-Sender: ed@mail.esson.net (Unverified) X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.0.9 Date: Tue, 15 Jul 2003 09:11:32 -0700 To: "Amod Phadke" , From: Ed Kasky Subject: Re: Command line interface not working In-Reply-To: <095701c34ad5$c6a8b320$6503a8c0@persistent.co.in> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed X-Archive-Number: 200307/75 X-Sequence-Number: 3505 Are you receiving any errors? If so, post a sample. Post your aliases for one of the lists as well so we can see if they are set correctly. At 07:04 PM Tuesday, 7/15/2003, Amod Phadke wrote -=> >Hi , > >I recently set majordomo lists on my mail server. I can see the lists and >make modifications to them using the web interface (majorcool). But >somehow the command line is not working for my setup. > >eg. When I send command "lists" to >majordomo@mymailserver.co.in it >doesn't reply with the list of mailing lists available. > >Similar thing happens to any other command. When I chakec on my mail >server I can see all the mails sent to majordomo in the mailbox of >'majordomo' user. > >How do I get majordomo reply to these mails automatically ? Ed Kasky Los Angeles, CA . . . . . . . . "Remember, you can't steal second if you don't take your foot off first." -- Mike Todd From majordomo-users-owner@greatcircle.com Tue Jul 15 09:19:11 2003 Received: from krusty-motorsports.com (krusty-motorsports.com [192.94.170.8]) by mycroft.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9C064197193 for ; Tue, 15 Jul 2003 09:19:04 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [24.194.112.77] (helo=skipper.averillpark.net) by krusty-motorsports.com with asmtp (TLSv1:DES-CBC3-SHA:168) (Exim 4.14) id 19cSW7-0001jT-Gw for majordomo-users@greatcircle.com; Tue, 15 Jul 2003 16:19:03 +0000 Received: from rwelty by skipper.averillpark.net with local (Exim 4.14) id 19cSUC-0003mq-P6 for majordomo-users@greatcircle.com; Tue, 15 Jul 2003 12:17:04 -0400 Date: Tue, 15 Jul 2003 12:17:04 -0400 (EDT) From: Richard Welty Subject: Re: Exim/Majordomo To: majordomo-users@greatcircle.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII Content-Disposition: INLINE References: <000901c34add$32f12c40$0f01a8c0@magnatechonline.com> <001501c34ae8$4abeeb40$0f01a8c0@magnatechonline.com> In-Reply-To: <001501c34ae8$4abeeb40$0f01a8c0@magnatechonline.com> X-Mailer: Mahogany 0.64 'Sparc', compiled for Linux 2.4.9-13 i686 Message-Id: X-Habeas-SWE-1: winter into spring X-Habeas-SWE-2: brightly anticipated X-Habeas-SWE-3: like Habeas SWE (tm) X-Habeas-SWE-4: Copyright 2002 Habeas (tm) X-Habeas-SWE-5: Sender Warranted Email (SWE) (tm). The sender of this X-Habeas-SWE-6: email in exchange for a license for this Habeas X-Habeas-SWE-7: warrant mark warrants that this is a Habeas Compliant X-Habeas-SWE-8: Message (HCM) and not spam. Please report use of this X-Habeas-SWE-9: mark in spam to . X-Archive-Number: 200307/76 X-Sequence-Number: 3506 On Tue, 15 Jul 2003 11:46:44 -0400 Michael Arena wrote: > Ok I corrected those permissions and groups and it seemed to go through > now > by the looks of the Exim log. Here's how it looks now: > "2003-07-15 11:31:33 19cRm9-00024E-00 <= root@mydomain.org U=root P=local > S=305 > 2003-07-15 11:31:33 19cRm9-00024E-00 => |/usr/lib/majordomo/wrapper > archive2.pl -f /var/lib/majordomo/lists/thetest.archive/archive -M -a > (thetest-archive@mydomain.org) R=system_aliases > T=address_pipe > 2003-07-15 11:31:33 19cRm9-00024E-00 => |/usr/lib/majordomo/wrapper > resend -l thetest thetest-list R=system_aliases > T=address_pipe > 2003-07-15 11:31:33 19cRm9-00024E-00 Completed" > Only problem is, of the two email addresses I added to the list, neither > received the test post I sent. Is there any other way to test this out?? look in your mail queue (exim -bp) and see if they're in there. also, grep for the actual destination addresses in mainlog and see what disposition exim has given them; you've only shown the logs through the successful handoff to aliases, and not the individual deliveries. richard -- Richard Welty rwelty@suespammers.org Averill Park Networking rwelty@averillpark.net Unix, Linux, IP Network Engineering, Security rwelty@krusty-motorsports.com 518-573-7592 From majordomo-users-owner@greatcircle.com Tue Jul 15 09:22:26 2003 Received: from scanmail1.cableone.net (scanmail1.cableone.net [24.116.0.121]) by mycroft.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0BB5C1972B6 for ; Tue, 15 Jul 2003 09:22:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: from scanmail1.cableone.net ([10.116.0.121]) by scanmail1.cableone.net with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1877.687.68); Tue, 15 Jul 2003 09:21:37 -0700 Received: from scanmail1.cableone.net [24.116.0.121] by scanmail1.cableone.net (SMTPD32-7.04) id A9B55FD00136; Tue, 15 Jul 2003 09:20:05 -0700 Received: from daniel.liston.nu (24-116-58-25.cpe.cableone.net [24.116.58.25]) by mail.cableone.net with SMTP (MailShield v2.04 - WIN32 Jul 17 2001 17:12:42); Tue, 15 Jul 2003 09:20:05 -0600 Received: from sonny.org ([192.168.1.60]) by daniel.liston.nu (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id h6FGKsl3003654; Tue, 15 Jul 2003 11:20:54 -0500 Message-ID: <3F142A78.9010205@sonny.org> Date: Tue, 15 Jul 2003 11:23:20 -0500 From: Daniel Liston User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.4) Gecko/20030624 Netscape/7.1 (ax) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Amod Phadke Cc: majordomo-users@greatcircle.com Subject: Re: Command line interface not working References: <095701c34ad5$c6a8b320$6503a8c0@persistent.co.in> In-Reply-To: <095701c34ad5$c6a8b320$6503a8c0@persistent.co.in> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-SMTP-HELO: daniel.liston.nu X-SMTP-MAIL-FROM: dliston@sonny.org X-SMTP-PEER-INFO: 24-116-58-25.cpe.cableone.net [24.116.58.25] X-Archive-Number: 200307/77 X-Sequence-Number: 3507 It sounds like you forgot to create an alias for majordomo in the /etc/aliases file. The alias should look something like this; majordomo: "|/usr/local/majordomo/wrapper majordomo" Or if your domain is hosted, there should probably be a reference to majordomoo@mymailserver.co.in in the /etc/mail/virtusertable. Dan Liston Amod Phadke wrote: > Hi , > > I recently set majordomo lists on my mail server. I can see the lists > and make modifications to them using the web interface (majorcool). But > somehow the command line is not working for my setup. > > eg. When I send command "lists" to majordomo@mymailserver.co.in > it doesn't reply with the list of > mailing lists available. > > Similar thing happens to any other command. When I chakec on my mail > server I can see all the mails sent to majordomo in the mailbox of > 'majordomo' user. > > How do I get majordomo reply to these mails automatically ? > > Regards, > Amod From majordomo-users-owner@greatcircle.com Tue Jul 15 10:09:52 2003 Received: from mta10.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta10.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.45]) by mycroft.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 50894195A5D for ; Tue, 15 Jul 2003 10:09:48 -0700 (PDT) Received: from asv15.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (asv15.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.149]) by mta10.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.16 (built May 14 2003)) with ESMTP id <0HI2000V2SW9XU@mta10.srv.hcvlny.cv.net> for majordomo-users@greatcircle.com; Tue, 15 Jul 2003 13:07:21 -0400 (EDT) Received: from magnatechonline.com (ool-182eda88.dyn.optonline.net [24.46.218.136]) by asv15.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (8.12.9/8.12.9) with SMTP id h6FH5Xvk011660; Tue, 15 Jul 2003 13:05:34 -0400 (EDT) Received: from tech1 by magnatechonline.com with smtp id aa25572; Tue, 15 Jul 2003 13:06:04 -0400 (EDT) Date: Tue, 15 Jul 2003 13:14:10 -0400 From: Michael Arena Subject: Re: Exim/Majordomo To: Richard Welty Cc: majordomo-users@greatcircle.com Message-id: <001901c34af4$81c43120$0f01a8c0@magnatechonline.com> X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-priority: Normal References: <000901c34add$32f12c40$0f01a8c0@magnatechonline.com> <001501c34ae8$4abeeb40$0f01a8c0@magnatechonline.com> X-Archive-Number: 200307/78 X-Sequence-Number: 3508 I found the ones I had problems with (permissions and unroutable address) sitting in my queue, 4 of them, and I removed them. When I grep for the destination address of the list in my mainlog I get: "2003-07-15 10:13:38 19cQYk-0004kC-00 ** thetest@localhost: Unrouteable address 2003-07-15 10:15:45 19cQam-0005nE-00 ** thetest@192.168.1.250: Unrouteable address 2003-07-15 11:30:08 19cRkm-0001Ly-00 ** thetest@192.168.1.250: Unrouteable address 2003-07-15 11:31:33 19cRm9-00024E-00 => |/usr/lib/majordomo/wrapper archive2.pl -f /var/lib/majordomo/lists/thetest.archive/archive -M -a (thetest-archive@mydomain.org) R=system_aliases T=address_pipe 2003-07-15 11:31:33 19cRm9-00024E-00 => |/usr/lib/majordomo/wrapper resend -l thetest thetest-list R=system_aliases T=address_pipe" thanks, mike ----- Original Message ----- From: "Richard Welty" To: Sent: Tuesday, July 15, 2003 12:17 PM Subject: Re: Exim/Majordomo > On Tue, 15 Jul 2003 11:46:44 -0400 Michael Arena wrote: > > > Ok I corrected those permissions and groups and it seemed to go through > > now > > by the looks of the Exim log. Here's how it looks now: > > > "2003-07-15 11:31:33 19cRm9-00024E-00 <= root@mydomain.org U=root P=local > > S=305 > > 2003-07-15 11:31:33 19cRm9-00024E-00 => |/usr/lib/majordomo/wrapper > > archive2.pl -f /var/lib/majordomo/lists/thetest.archive/archive -M -a > > (thetest-archive@mydomain.org) R=system_aliases > > T=address_pipe > > 2003-07-15 11:31:33 19cRm9-00024E-00 => |/usr/lib/majordomo/wrapper > > resend -l thetest thetest-list R=system_aliases > > T=address_pipe > > 2003-07-15 11:31:33 19cRm9-00024E-00 Completed" > > > Only problem is, of the two email addresses I added to the list, neither > > received the test post I sent. Is there any other way to test this out?? > > look in your mail queue (exim -bp) and see if they're in there. also, grep > for the actual destination addresses in mainlog and see what disposition > exim has given them; you've only shown the logs through the successful > handoff to aliases, and not the individual deliveries. > > richard > -- > Richard Welty > rwelty@suespammers.org Averill Park Networking > rwelty@averillpark.net Unix, Linux, IP Network Engineering, Security > rwelty@krusty-motorsports.com 518-573-7592 > > From majordomo-users-owner@greatcircle.com Tue Jul 15 11:01:32 2003 Received: from wchqex01.capwin.org (unknown [65.222.176.6]) by mycroft.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C3182196A59 for ; Tue, 15 Jul 2003 11:01:30 -0700 (PDT) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.0.6375.0 content-class: urn:content-classes:message Subject: Re: Unable to expand a distribution list MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Date: Tue, 15 Jul 2003 14:01:29 -0400 Message-ID: <16E4F48F81558E45963EB9498A81C2B9BE9E@wchqex01.capwin.org> X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: Unable to expand a distribution list Thread-Index: AcNKRfCeLGKJdba1TF2XgeG+U57+ngAtKQBw From: "Dave Fontaine" To: "Daniel Liston" Cc: X-Archive-Number: 200307/79 X-Sequence-Number: 3509 Dan, Thank you SO much for responding to this!!! Here are all my aliases: majordomo: "|/home/majordomo/runtime/wrapper majordomo" owner-majordomo: dfontaine@mydomain.org,nobody majordom: owner-majordomo Majordomo-Owner: owner-majordomo owner-newsletter: dfontaine@mydomain.org,nobody newsletter: "|/home/majordomo/runtime/wrapper resend @/home/majordomo/runtime/lists/newsletter.resend" newsletter-approval: owner-newsletter newsletter-dist: :include:/home/majordomo/runtime/lists/newsletter owner-newsletter-dist: owner-newsletter newsletter-request: "|/home/majordomo/runtime/wrapper request-answer newsletter" owner-newsletter-request: owner-newsletter Thank you thank you thank you.... dave -----Original Message----- From: Daniel Liston [mailto:dliston@sonny.org]=20 Sent: Monday, July 14, 2003 4:27 PM To: Dave Fontaine Cc: majordomo-users@greatcircle.com Subject: Re: Unable to expand a distribution list Please post the section of /var/log/maillog related to this error so we can try to diagnose your situation. What does the alias for newsletter-dist: look like? What does the alias for newsletter: look like? Dan Liston Dave Fontaine wrote: > Hello all, > Have run into a problem while attempting to make a submission. I can > execute the config, lists, help type commands with no hitches > whatsoever. The error that I am getting is: > **************************** >=20 > newsletter-dist@listserv.mydomain.org on 7/10/2003 5:40 PM > Unable to expand a distribution list to deliver the message > to its members. Try again or contact your system administrator. > < listserv.mydomain.org #5.2.4> >=20 >=20 > **************************** > I am running Redhat 8.0, sendmail 8.12.5-7, and Majordomo 1.94.5. > I have done the following to try to correct the problem, but still > nothing: >=20 > I have added 'Tmajordomo' to the sendmail.cf and submit.cf files and > ensured that the Trusted users line was NOT commented out. I have added > majordomo to the trusted-users file in '/etc/mail/'.=20 >=20 > I have verified permissions and ownerships as per section 2.1 of the > Great Circle Majordomo FAQs, 640 for files, 751 for directories and x > bit set for all major scripts - wrapper, resend, etc.=20=20 >=20 > I have verified that wrapper was installed setuid. >=20 > I have run the './wrapper config-test' as a third party user and the > results were 100% positive. Which leads me to believe that this is a > sendmail problem. >=20 > PLEASE help, anyone! :) > -Dave From majordomo-users-owner@greatcircle.com Tue Jul 15 11:08:32 2003 Received: from heron.mail.pas.earthlink.net (heron.mail.pas.earthlink.net [207.217.120.189]) by mycroft.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1D5B91971EE for ; Tue, 15 Jul 2003 11:08:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: from 216-240-38-250.ip.idiom.com ([216.240.38.250] helo=APTITUDE) by heron.mail.pas.earthlink.net with asmtp (Exim 3.33 #1) id 19cUDE-0002TE-00; Tue, 15 Jul 2003 11:07:40 -0700 From: "Roger B.A Klorese" To: "'Dave Fontaine'" , "'Daniel Liston'" Cc: Subject: Re: Unable to expand a distribution list Date: Tue, 15 Jul 2003 11:06:04 -0700 Message-ID: <7AD6B1A7CA734A48B95E96591302A9B9180916@sfdc.us.sychron.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.4510 In-Reply-To: <16E4F48F81558E45963EB9498A81C2B9BE9E@wchqex01.capwin.org> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Importance: Normal X-ELNK-Trace: 95a5daa1092a4a38d780f4a490ca69564776905774d2ac4bf1584d628e4000e85d3038b0e7c6dab7350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c X-Archive-Number: 200307/80 X-Sequence-Number: 3510 > newsletter: > "|/home/majordomo/runtime/wrapper resend > @/home/majordomo/runtime/lists/newsletter.resend" And what's in /home/majordomo/runtime/lists/newsletter.resend? From majordomo-users-owner@greatcircle.com Tue Jul 15 11:10:49 2003 Received: from wchqex01.capwin.org (unknown [65.222.176.6]) by mycroft.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id AF39619749A for ; Tue, 15 Jul 2003 11:10:48 -0700 (PDT) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.0.6375.0 content-class: urn:content-classes:message Subject: Re: Unable to expand a distribution list MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Date: Tue, 15 Jul 2003 14:10:48 -0400 Message-ID: <16E4F48F81558E45963EB9498A81C2B9645D@wchqex01.capwin.org> X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: Unable to expand a distribution list Thread-Index: AcNK+/yuMO3uEjfzRoyDlzgYA0CYNAAADWpA From: "Dave Fontaine" To: "Roger B.A Klorese" , "Daniel Liston" Cc: X-Archive-Number: 200307/81 X-Sequence-Number: 3511 Roger, I was guessing that that would be the next question, but had already sent the last response. -l newsletter -h listserv.mydomain.org newsletter-dist,nobody Thanks, Dave -----Original Message----- From: Roger B.A Klorese [mailto:rogerk@queernet.org]=20 Sent: Tuesday, July 15, 2003 2:06 PM To: Dave Fontaine; 'Daniel Liston' Cc: majordomo-users@greatcircle.com Subject: RE: Unable to expand a distribution list > newsletter:=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20= =20 > "|/home/majordomo/runtime/wrapper resend > @/home/majordomo/runtime/lists/newsletter.resend" And what's in /home/majordomo/runtime/lists/newsletter.resend? From majordomo-users-owner@greatcircle.com Tue Jul 15 13:25:31 2003 Received: from scanmail1.cableone.net (scanmail1.cableone.net [24.116.0.121]) by mycroft.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0FFB1197072 for ; Tue, 15 Jul 2003 13:25:29 -0700 (PDT) Received: from scanmail1.cableone.net ([10.116.0.121]) by scanmail1.cableone.net with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1877.687.68); Tue, 15 Jul 2003 13:24:40 -0700 Received: from scanmail1.cableone.net [24.116.0.121] by scanmail1.cableone.net (SMTPD32-7.04) id A3086C20088; Tue, 15 Jul 2003 13:24:40 -0700 Received: from daniel.liston.nu (24-116-58-25.cpe.cableone.net [24.116.58.25]) by mail.cableone.net with SMTP (MailShield v2.04 - WIN32 Jul 17 2001 17:12:42); Tue, 15 Jul 2003 13:24:40 -0600 Received: from sonny.org ([192.168.1.60]) by daniel.liston.nu (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id h6FKPWl3005359; Tue, 15 Jul 2003 15:25:32 -0500 Message-ID: <3F1463CC.7060908@sonny.org> Date: Tue, 15 Jul 2003 15:27:56 -0500 From: Daniel Liston User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.4) Gecko/20030624 Netscape/7.1 (ax) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Dave Fontaine Cc: majordomo-users@greatcircle.com Subject: Re: Unable to expand a distribution list References: <16E4F48F81558E45963EB9498A81C2B9BE9E@wchqex01.capwin.org> In-Reply-To: <16E4F48F81558E45963EB9498A81C2B9BE9E@wchqex01.capwin.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-SMTP-HELO: daniel.liston.nu X-SMTP-MAIL-FROM: dliston@sonny.org X-SMTP-PEER-INFO: 24-116-58-25.cpe.cableone.net [24.116.58.25] X-Archive-Number: 200307/82 X-Sequence-Number: 3512 Dave Fontaine wrote: > Dan, > Thank you SO much for responding to this!!! > Here are all my aliases: > > majordomo: "|/home/majordomo/runtime/wrapper majordomo" > owner-majordomo: dfontaine@mydomain.org,nobody > majordom: owner-majordomo If majordom is the actual passwd file entry, the alias for majordom "should" redirect to the majordomo alias, not the owner. Then again, I could think up some useful ways to make use of the configuration the way it is. Do you have Tmajordom in the sendmail.cf and the submit.cf files? Tmajordomo will not help if the passwd file entry is just majordom. > Majordomo-Owner: owner-majordomo > > owner-newsletter: dfontaine@mydomain.org,nobody > newsletter: "|/home/majordomo/runtime/wrapper resend > @/home/majordomo/runtime/lists/newsletter.resend" The above implies that you have "-l newsletter newsletter-dist" in the newsletter.resend file. What are the attributes on this file? Who are the owner and group that it belongs to? > newsletter-approval: owner-newsletter > newsletter-dist: :include:/home/majordomo/runtime/lists/newsletter Same question about attributes, ownership, and group for this file. There should NOT be any group or world "writable" directories in the path on the way to this file either. Group and/or world "readable" is OK, and the directories should all be at least user and group executable. > owner-newsletter-dist: owner-newsletter > newsletter-request: "|/home/majordomo/runtime/wrapper > request-answer newsletter" > owner-newsletter-request: owner-newsletter > You can test how well sendmail likes your distribution list by attempting to send directly to the newsletter-dist@mydomain.org address, preferably from an account on the same machine as your majordomo. If this file is fully populated with active email addresses, you might want to replace it with a set of test accounts before doing your test. Dan Liston > > Thank you thank you thank you.... > dave > > -----Original Message----- > From: Daniel Liston [mailto:dliston (at) sonny.org] > Sent: Monday, July 14, 2003 4:27 PM > To: Dave Fontaine > Cc: majordomo-users@greatcircle.com > Subject: Re: Unable to expand a distribution list > > Please post the section of /var/log/maillog related to this error > so we can try to diagnose your situation. > > What does the alias for newsletter-dist: look like? > What does the alias for newsletter: look like? > > Dan Liston > > Dave Fontaine wrote: > >> Hello all, >> Have run into a problem while attempting to make a submission. I can >> execute the config, lists, help type commands with no hitches >> whatsoever. The error that I am getting is: >> **************************** >> >> newsletter-dist@listserv.mydomain.org on 7/10/2003 5:40 PM >> Unable to expand a distribution list to deliver the > message >> to its members. Try again or contact your system administrator. >> < listserv.mydomain.org #5.2.4> >> >> >> **************************** >> I am running Redhat 8.0, sendmail 8.12.5-7, and Majordomo 1.94.5. >> I have done the following to try to correct the problem, but still >> nothing: >> >> I have added 'Tmajordomo' to the sendmail.cf and submit.cf files and >> ensured that the Trusted users line was NOT commented out. I have > added >> majordomo to the trusted-users file in '/etc/mail/'. >> >> I have verified permissions and ownerships as per section 2.1 of the >> Great Circle Majordomo FAQs, 640 for files, 751 for directories and x >> bit set for all major scripts - wrapper, resend, etc. >> >> I have verified that wrapper was installed setuid. >> >> I have run the './wrapper config-test' as a third party user and the >> results were 100% positive. Which leads me to believe that this is a >> sendmail problem. >> >> PLEASE help, anyone! :) >> -Dave > > From majordomo-users-owner@greatcircle.com Tue Jul 15 15:44:23 2003 Received: from avocet.mail.pas.earthlink.net (avocet.mail.pas.earthlink.net [207.217.120.50]) by mycroft.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 38AD1195B1E; Tue, 15 Jul 2003 15:44:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: from h-66-167-131-45.phndaz91.covad.net ([66.167.131.45] helo=Vaio.earthlink.net) by avocet.mail.pas.earthlink.net with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #1) id 19cYWy-0001Qt-00; Tue, 15 Jul 2003 15:44:20 -0700 Message-Id: <5.2.0.9.2.20030715154118.02cb5058@pop.earthlink.net> X-Sender: bobbish@pop.earthlink.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.0.9 Date: Tue, 15 Jul 2003 15:44:21 -0700 To: majordomo-users@greatcircle.com, list-managers@greatcircle.com From: Bob Bish Subject: AOL blocking Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed X-Archive-Number: 200307/83 X-Sequence-Number: 3513 Within the past couple of hours, AOL has started blocking all my mailing lists (all live on the same server) mistaking them for spam. This happened a few years ago and I ended up having to move the lists to another host as a result. Fighting AOL, trying to convince them that opt-in mailing lists are not spam, was futile. Has anyone found a way to get AOL to whitelist, or stop blocking, mailing lists? ...Bob From majordomo-users-owner@greatcircle.com Tue Jul 15 19:39:41 2003 Received: from mallard.mail.pas.earthlink.net (mallard.mail.pas.earthlink.net [207.217.120.48]) by mycroft.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0A07E19629B for ; Tue, 15 Jul 2003 19:39:40 -0700 (PDT) Received: from h-66-167-134-178.phndaz91.covad.net ([66.167.134.178] helo=Vaio.earthlink.net) by mallard.mail.pas.earthlink.net with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #1) id 19ccCg-0000q2-00 for majordomo-users@greatcircle.com; Tue, 15 Jul 2003 19:39:39 -0700 Message-Id: <5.2.0.9.2.20030715193852.00bb3860@pop.earthlink.net> X-Sender: bobbish@pop.earthlink.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.0.9 Date: Tue, 15 Jul 2003 19:39:39 -0700 To: majordomo-users@greatcircle.com From: Bob Bish Subject: Re: AOL blocking In-Reply-To: <3F144364.4757.1A8D25D@localhost> References: <5.2.0.9.2.20030715154118.02cb5058@pop.earthlink.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed X-Archive-Number: 200307/84 X-Sequence-Number: 3514 It was almost too easy to resolve. They have a web page for testing for open relays (it's given in the bounce message). I tested the IP address of the list host. It came back negative, causing their software to automatically remove it from the block list. It must have been detected as an open relay as the result of some kind of snafu. At least, that's my best guess. The good news is that AOL's blocking of my lists has ceased. It only lasted for about 8-9 hours total. ...Bob From majordomo-users-owner@greatcircle.com Tue Jul 15 21:34:45 2003 Received: from scaup.mail.pas.earthlink.net (scaup.mail.pas.earthlink.net [207.217.120.49]) by mycroft.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8A93319609C; Tue, 15 Jul 2003 21:34:41 -0700 (PDT) Received: from h-66-167-134-178.phndaz91.covad.net ([66.167.134.178] helo=Vaio.earthlink.net) by scaup.mail.pas.earthlink.net with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #1) id 19ce00-0004er-00; Tue, 15 Jul 2003 21:34:40 -0700 Message-Id: <5.2.0.9.2.20030715213335.00bce6f0@pop.earthlink.net> X-Sender: bobbish@pop.earthlink.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.0.9 Date: Tue, 15 Jul 2003 21:34:41 -0700 To: "Daniel Thorstensen-Assis" From: Bob Bish Subject: Re: AOL blocking Cc: majordomo-users@greatcircle.com, list-managers@greatcircle.com In-Reply-To: <003101c34b53$088664e0$6c7f1e18@klipyhq> References: <5.2.0.9.2.20030715154118.02cb5058@pop.earthlink.net> <5.2.0.9.2.20030715193852.00bb3860@pop.earthlink.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed X-Archive-Number: 200307/85 X-Sequence-Number: 3515 At 09:22 PM 7/15/2003, Daniel Thorstensen-Assis wrote: >Bob, > >Could you share with us the specific steps -- ie, the page, etc? http://postmaster.info.aol.com/ You'll see the choices on the left. ...Bob From majordomo-users-owner@greatcircle.com Wed Jul 16 07:03:51 2003 Received: from wchqex01.capwin.org (unknown [65.222.176.6]) by mycroft.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 42F211961CA for ; Wed, 16 Jul 2003 07:03:49 -0700 (PDT) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.0.6375.0 content-class: urn:content-classes:message Subject: Re: Unable to expand a distribution list MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Date: Wed, 16 Jul 2003 10:03:48 -0400 Message-ID: <16E4F48F81558E45963EB9498A81C2B9BE9F@wchqex01.capwin.org> X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: Unable to expand a distribution list Thread-Index: AcNLD0D/wrX0jkn9RKKRStny/t89AQAkaiMA From: "Dave Fontaine" To: "Daniel Liston" Cc: X-Archive-Number: 200307/86 X-Sequence-Number: 3516 Dan, There is a separate file called newsletter.passwd (OH so secure :) ). I have 'Tmajordomo' in both submit.cf and sendmail.cf The uid:gid combo is majordomo:majordomo. Everything in the lists dir is 640. The dir itself is 751. (There is only one list.) Thanks, Dave -----Original Message----- From: Daniel Liston [mailto:dliston@sonny.org]=20 Sent: Tuesday, July 15, 2003 4:28 PM To: Dave Fontaine Cc: majordomo-users@greatcircle.com Subject: Re: Unable to expand a distribution list Dave Fontaine wrote: > Dan, > Thank you SO much for responding to this!!! > Here are all my aliases: >=20 > majordomo: "|/home/majordomo/runtime/wrapper majordomo" > owner-majordomo: dfontaine@mydomain.org,nobody > majordom: owner-majordomo If majordom is the actual passwd file entry, the alias for majordom "should" redirect to the majordomo alias, not the owner. Then again, I could think up some useful ways to make use of the configuration the way it is. Do you have Tmajordom in the sendmail.cf and the submit.cf files? Tmajordomo will not help if the passwd file entry is just majordom. > Majordomo-Owner: owner-majordomo >=20 > owner-newsletter: dfontaine@mydomain.org,nobody > newsletter: "|/home/majordomo/runtime/wrapper resend > @/home/majordomo/runtime/lists/newsletter.resend" The above implies that you have "-l newsletter newsletter-dist" in the newsletter.resend file. What are the attributes on this file? Who are the owner and group that it belongs to? > newsletter-approval: owner-newsletter > newsletter-dist: :include:/home/majordomo/runtime/lists/newsletter Same question about attributes, ownership, and group for this file. There should NOT be any group or world "writable" directories in the path on the way to this file either. Group and/or world "readable" is OK, and the directories should all be at least user and group executable. > owner-newsletter-dist: owner-newsletter > newsletter-request: "|/home/majordomo/runtime/wrapper > request-answer newsletter" > owner-newsletter-request: owner-newsletter >=20 You can test how well sendmail likes your distribution list by attempting to send directly to the newsletter-dist@mydomain.org address, preferably from an account on the same machine as your majordomo. If this file is fully populated with active email addresses, you might want to replace it with a set of test accounts before doing your test. Dan Liston >=20 > Thank you thank you thank you.... > dave >=20 > -----Original Message----- > From: Daniel Liston [mailto:dliston (at) sonny.org]=20 > Sent: Monday, July 14, 2003 4:27 PM > To: Dave Fontaine > Cc: majordomo-users@greatcircle.com > Subject: Re: Unable to expand a distribution list >=20 > Please post the section of /var/log/maillog related to this error > so we can try to diagnose your situation. >=20 > What does the alias for newsletter-dist: look like? > What does the alias for newsletter: look like? >=20 > Dan Liston >=20 > Dave Fontaine wrote: >=20 >> Hello all, >> Have run into a problem while attempting to make a submission. I can >> execute the config, lists, help type commands with no hitches >> whatsoever. The error that I am getting is: >> **************************** >>=20 >> newsletter-dist@listserv.mydomain.org on 7/10/2003 5:40 PM >> Unable to expand a distribution list to deliver the > message >> to its members. Try again or contact your system administrator. >> < listserv.mydomain.org #5.2.4> >>=20 >>=20 >> **************************** >> I am running Redhat 8.0, sendmail 8.12.5-7, and Majordomo 1.94.5. >> I have done the following to try to correct the problem, but still >> nothing: >>=20 >> I have added 'Tmajordomo' to the sendmail.cf and submit.cf files and >> ensured that the Trusted users line was NOT commented out. I have > added >> majordomo to the trusted-users file in '/etc/mail/'.=20 >>=20 >> I have verified permissions and ownerships as per section 2.1 of the >> Great Circle Majordomo FAQs, 640 for files, 751 for directories and x >> bit set for all major scripts - wrapper, resend, etc.=20=20 >>=20 >> I have verified that wrapper was installed setuid. >>=20 >> I have run the './wrapper config-test' as a third party user and the >> results were 100% positive. Which leads me to believe that this is a >> sendmail problem. >>=20 >> PLEASE help, anyone! :) >> -Dave >=20 >=20 From majordomo-users-owner@greatcircle.com Wed Jul 16 07:52:48 2003 Received: from web.nit10.com.br (mailserver.nit10.com.br [200.186.236.49]) by mycroft.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 78BE019623F for ; Wed, 16 Jul 2003 07:52:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: from buiuxp (Guilherme [192.168.0.198]) by web.nit10.com.br (8.12.8/8.12.8) with SMTP id h6GEpVLb031493 for ; Wed, 16 Jul 2003 11:51:31 -0300 Message-ID: <00fb01c34ba9$d40799d0$c600a8c0@buiuxp> From: "Guilherme Benkenstein" To: "Majordomo" Subject: majordomo.aliases Date: Wed, 16 Jul 2003 11:52:07 -0300 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_00F8_01C34B90.AE7A2480" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 X-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-Archive-Number: 200307/87 X-Sequence-Number: 3517 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_00F8_01C34B90.AE7A2480 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Can anybody send a example of majordomo.aliases to me? Tks!=20 ------=_NextPart_000_00F8_01C34B90.AE7A2480 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Can anybody send  a example of=20 majordomo.aliases to me?
 
Tks! 


------=_NextPart_000_00F8_01C34B90.AE7A2480-- From majordomo-users-owner@greatcircle.com Wed Jul 16 07:54:47 2003 Received: from inst.augie.edu (inst.augie.edu [192.103.41.1]) by mycroft.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 57868196630 for ; Wed, 16 Jul 2003 07:53:17 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [10.1.138.78] ([10.1.138.78]) by inst.augie.edu (AIX4.3/8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA35664 for ; Wed, 16 Jul 2003 09:36:00 -0500 Subject: New Build. From: "Tim (TTUG)" To: majordomo-users@greatcircle.com Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Evolution/1.0.2-5mdk Date: 16 Jul 2003 09:01:34 -0500 Message-Id: <1058364095.6577.30.camel@tag3503.augie.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Archive-Number: 200307/88 X-Sequence-Number: 3518 This is a request for ideas and information. It may be long so don't bother to read unless you like to give advice.Majordomo is in this question! Scene One (Fade from black) A small company of 30 employees that have a.) A Freebsd 4.4 acting as a gateway, email server, ftp site b.) a Mac fileserver with 500gig of space c.) An NT box providing http (gasp!) d.) 65 machine distributed around 3.) 12 laptops, with wireless f) 3. cell phones with email. Director yells CUT and demands. a.) the gateway, email(with majordomo) and ftp must be split into 3 machines. (and I danced a jig for joy, finally some verticallization) gateway becomes a Freebsd behind a purchased configurable firewall, (yet to be picked***comments please) email server split to migrate to a faster machine but remain Freebsd ?.? (***go to 5.0???) and majordomo on this faster machine (***goto mj2???) sendmail 8.12 WILL be the MTA(*NO CHOICE) 1/2 the mail is for majordomo and stays here with its own domain the other half of business email migrates to an INSTAGATE mail box, new domain name added ftp to be left on the machine that is now acting as gateway and remain Freebsd 4.4 nuetering out everything inetd will ONLY running ftp services I suspect. (***comments please) b.) the MAC server enviroment needs an automated off site backup process that allows for a.) daily backups, (probably diffs) that give one weeks worth of files. b.) Friday backups, 3 kept c.) Monthly backup 1 kept so that at any time t we have t-1,t-2,...t-7, t-2fridays, t -3fridays, t-1month backups (***ideas please, and note that on some FEW days the backup diffs alone would be 50+gig.) I promised majordomo questions. As you can see above... the majordomo machine is getting completely rebuilt my plan was Freebsd 5.0 with sendmail 8.12. apache 2, perl5.005, majorcool, webmin,, procmail, majordomo 2 OR 1.94.with all my hardcodeg customization and patches. (ie, demine, digest subjects authors and numbering of messages, html or plain text digest choice, no non-member submission [> dev/null,] reply to auth (searchs for auth # and pulls it out.so we never get silly unrecognized errors commands.) subscribe addressA from addressB send auth to addressB NOT moderator and a few more tweaks.) As you can see from my mods, I am hesitant to migrate to mj2 and our two *count them* two lists. But they are important list generating sizable capital for the company. I an very hesitant to give up on these mods. ESPECIALLY reply to auth, since i work with old ladies who hardly can enter an address let alone get an authorization message sent. THey Just have to hit reply, (*if email client includes message received) and send. NO typing NO nothing, also digest subjects with authors and message numbering, and absolutely NO non-members submissions are a must for us. But I want to gain the command like nomail list 5-d or vacation list 3-w I am willing to code that for 1.94 so that I can retain my majordomo 1 setup that I understand well, sleep with and caress, BUT if mj2 migration is WELL DOCUMENTED (i hardly believe) and can be successfully compiled on Freebsd 5.0 (it failed for me on 4.2) I am going to give it a test run and see how it looks. Any ideas comments and flames. TIm From majordomo-users-owner@greatcircle.com Wed Jul 16 07:57:12 2003 Received: from kcmso1.proxy.att.com (kcmso1.att.com [192.128.133.69]) by mycroft.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 92C36196668 for ; Wed, 16 Jul 2003 07:57:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: from attrh0i.attrh.att.com ([135.37.94.54]) by kcmso1.proxy.att.com (AT&T IPNS/MSO-5.0) with ESMTP id h6GEo3m3025878 for ; Wed, 16 Jul 2003 09:57:08 -0500 Received: from acclust02evs1.ugd.att.com (135.37.16.9) by attrh0i.attrh.att.com (6.5.032) id 3F08489B00247D21; Wed, 16 Jul 2003 10:56:26 -0400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.0.6375.0 content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----_=_NextPart_001_01C34BAA.86FB5410" Subject: Re: majordomo.aliases Date: Wed, 16 Jul 2003 10:57:07 -0400 Message-ID: X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: majordomo.aliases Thread-Index: AcNLqkTqYSm+HlIHTIec6U8YwkE6jAAADJlg From: "Williams, Travis L, NPONS" To: "Guilherme Benkenstein" , "Majordomo" X-Archive-Number: 200307/89 X-Sequence-Number: 3519 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------_=_NextPart_001_01C34BAA.86FB5410 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable This was sent to me from Dan and this got my stuff working..!! =20 =20 test: "|/opt/majordomo-1.94.5/wrapper resend -l test test-outgoing,nobody" owner-test: test-owner, test-owner: dliston test-approval: test-owner test-outgoing: :include:/opt/majordomo-1.94.5/lists/test,test-archiver,test= -digestify test-archiver: "|/opt/majordomo-1.94.5/wrapper archive2.pl -f /opt/majordom= o-1.94.5/archives/test/test -a -M" test-digestify: "|/opt/majordomo-1.94.5/wrapper digest -r -C -l test-digest= test-digest-outgoing,nobody" test-request: "|/opt/majordomo-1.94.5/wrapper majordomo -l test" test-digest: test owner-test-digest: owner-test test-digest-outgoing: "|/usr/bin/bulk_mailer owner-test@sonny.org /opt/majo= rdomo-1.94.5/lists/test-digest" The above aliases have a dependency on entries in the majordomo.cf file; $whereami =3D "sonny.org"; $homedir =3D "/opt/majordomo-1.94.5"; $datadir =3D "/opt/majordomo-1.94.5"; $listdir =3D "$datadir/lists"; $digest_work_dir =3D "$datadir/digests"; $filedir =3D "$datadir/archives"; $filedir_suffix =3D ""; $majordomo_request =3D 1; Dan Liston =20 =20 -----Original Message----- From: Guilherme Benkenstein [mailto:guilherme@nit10.com.br] Sent: Wednesday, July 16, 2003 9:52 AM To: Majordomo Subject: majordomo.aliases Can anybody send a example of majordomo.aliases to me? =20 Tks!=20 ------_=_NextPart_001_01C34BAA.86FB5410 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
This=20 was sent to me from Dan and this got my stuff working..!!
 
 

test: "|/opt/majordomo-1.94.5/wrapper resend -l test=20 test-outgoing,nobody"

owner-test: test-owner,

test-owner: dliston

test-approval: test-owner

test-outgoing:=20 :include:/opt/majordomo-1.94.5/lists/test,test-archiver,test-digestify

test-archiver: "|/opt/majordomo-1.94.5/wrapper archive2.pl -f=20 /opt/majordomo-1.94.5/archives/test/test -a -M"

test-digestify: "|/opt/majordomo-1.94.5/wrapper digest -r -C -l test-dig= est=20 test-digest-outgoing,nobody"

test-request: "|/opt/majordomo-1.94.5/wrapper majordomo -l test"

test-digest: test

owner-test-digest: owner-test

test-digest-outgoing: "|/usr/bin/bulk_mailer owner-test@sonny.org=20 /opt/majordomo-1.94.5/lists/test-digest"

The above aliases have a dependency on entries in the majordomo.cf file;=

$whereami =3D "sonny.org";

$homedir =3D "/opt/majordomo-1.94.5";

$datadir =3D "/opt/majordomo-1.94.5";

$listdir =3D "$datadir/lists";

$digest_work_dir =3D "$datadir/digests";

$filedir =3D "$datadir/archives";

$filedir_suffix =3D "";

$majordomo_request =3D 1;

Dan Liston

 

 

-----Original Message-----
From: Guilherme Benkenstein= =20 [mailto:guilherme@nit10.com.br]
Sent: Wednesday, July 16, 2003 = 9:52=20 AM
To: Majordomo
Subject:=20 majordomo.aliases

Can anybody send  a example of=20 majordomo.aliases to me?
 
Tks! 


------_=_NextPart_001_01C34BAA.86FB5410-- From majordomo-users-owner@greatcircle.com Wed Jul 16 08:46:08 2003 Received: from heron.mail.pas.earthlink.net (heron.mail.pas.earthlink.net [207.217.120.189]) by mycroft.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D9801196440 for ; Wed, 16 Jul 2003 08:46:04 -0700 (PDT) Received: from user-vcauma1.dsl.mindspring.com ([216.175.89.65] helo=queernet.org) by heron.mail.pas.earthlink.net with asmtp (TLSv1:RC4-MD5:128) (Exim 3.33 #1) id 19coTi-0003PP-00; Wed, 16 Jul 2003 08:46:02 -0700 Message-ID: <3F157349.4020303@queernet.org> Date: Wed, 16 Jul 2003 08:46:17 -0700 From: "Roger B.A. Klorese" User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.4) Gecko/20030624 X-Accept-Language: en, en-us, fr-be, fr-ca, fr-fr, fr-lu, fr-mc, fr-ch MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "Tim (TTUG)" Cc: majordomo-users@greatcircle.com Subject: Re: New Build. References: <1058364095.6577.30.camel@tag3503.augie.edu> In-Reply-To: <1058364095.6577.30.camel@tag3503.augie.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-ELNK-Trace: 95a5daa1092a4a38d780f4a490ca69564776905774d2ac4bca9ac1db7da6e11edeb3ad36f3ea909e350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c X-Archive-Number: 200307/90 X-Sequence-Number: 3520 Tim (TTUG) wrote: >Freebsd 5.0 with sendmail 8.12. apache 2, perl5.005, majorcool, webmin,, >procmail, majordomo 2 ... > Bad news: majorcool doesn't work with mj2. Good news: it contains its own integrated user and admin web interfaces. >1.94.with all my hardcodeg customization and patches. > (ie, demine, digest subjects authors and numbering of messages, > html or plain text digest choice, no non-member submission > [> dev/null,] reply to auth (searchs for auth # and pulls it out.so we >never get silly unrecognized errors commands.) > subscribe addressA from addressB send auth to addressB > NOT moderator and a few more tweaks.) > Much demime functionality (the de-MIME-ing) is built in. Digest index formats and message numbering ditto. MIME or plain-text digest choice ditto. No non-member submission can be controlled by an access rule. Confirmation is not just-reply -- that's a great way to get blocklisted -- but it is simpler, with a clickable URL. Where and how authorization works is quite flexible. >ESPECIALLY reply to auth, since i work with old ladies who hardly can >enter an address let alone get an authorization message sent. THey Just >have to hit reply, (*if email client includes message received) and >send. > Can they figure out how to click a URL? >NO typing NO nothing, > Again: you're asking for block-listing. >But I want to gain the command like >nomail list 5-d >or vacation list 3-w > That's set list nomail-5d >I am willing to code that for 1.94 so that I can retain my majordomo 1 >setup that I understand well, sleep with and caress, BUT if mj2 >migration is WELL DOCUMENTED (i hardly believe) and can be successfully >compiled on Freebsd 5.0 (it failed for me on 4.2) I am going to give it >a test run and see how it looks. > It works fine for most of us on many releases -- perhaps you should have asked on the mj2-dev list. As for migration, once you build and install the software, and change your MTA configuration as documented to use the auto-generated aliases files, it asks if you want your Majordomo 1.x lists converted to Mj2. From majordomo-users-owner@greatcircle.com Thu Jul 17 07:49:21 2003 Received: from wchqex01.capwin.org (unknown [65.222.176.6]) by mycroft.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id AF15F195A1C for ; Thu, 17 Jul 2003 07:49:18 -0700 (PDT) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.0.6375.0 content-class: urn:content-classes:message Subject: Re: Unable to expand a distribution list MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Date: Thu, 17 Jul 2003 10:49:17 -0400 Message-ID: <16E4F48F81558E45963EB9498A81C2B9BEA0@wchqex01.capwin.org> X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: Unable to expand a distribution list Thread-Index: AcNLD0D/wrX0jkn9RKKRStny/t89AQBYbMSw From: "Dave Fontaine" To: "Daniel Liston" Cc: X-Archive-Number: 200307/91 X-Sequence-Number: 3521 Dan / All: If I send a message directly to the newsletter-dist address, I get the same message, unable to expand the distribution list. This looks like a sendmail problem. Everything in the path (/, /home, /home/majordomo, /home/majordomo/runtime, /home/majordomo/runtime/lists) is all 751 for the directories. Everything in the lists directory is 640. Everything past /home/majordomo is owned majordomo:majordomo. The /etc/aliases file is 644 root:root. The contents of the resend (newsletter.resend) file are as follows: -l newsletter -h listserv.capwin.org newsletter-dist,nobody ...At wit's end!! HELP! Thanks Everyone, Dave -----Original Message----- From: Daniel Liston [mailto:dliston@sonny.org]=20 Sent: Tuesday, July 15, 2003 4:28 PM To: Dave Fontaine Cc: majordomo-users@greatcircle.com Subject: Re: Unable to expand a distribution list Dave Fontaine wrote: > Dan, > Thank you SO much for responding to this!!! > Here are all my aliases: >=20 > majordomo: "|/home/majordomo/runtime/wrapper majordomo" > owner-majordomo: dfontaine@mydomain.org,nobody > majordom: owner-majordomo If majordom is the actual passwd file entry, the alias for majordom "should" redirect to the majordomo alias, not the owner. Then again, I could think up some useful ways to make use of the configuration the way it is. Do you have Tmajordom in the sendmail.cf and the submit.cf files? Tmajordomo will not help if the passwd file entry is just majordom. > Majordomo-Owner: owner-majordomo >=20 > owner-newsletter: dfontaine@mydomain.org,nobody > newsletter: "|/home/majordomo/runtime/wrapper resend > @/home/majordomo/runtime/lists/newsletter.resend" The above implies that you have "-l newsletter newsletter-dist" in the newsletter.resend file. What are the attributes on this file? Who are the owner and group that it belongs to? > newsletter-approval: owner-newsletter > newsletter-dist: :include:/home/majordomo/runtime/lists/newsletter Same question about attributes, ownership, and group for this file. There should NOT be any group or world "writable" directories in the path on the way to this file either. Group and/or world "readable" is OK, and the directories should all be at least user and group executable. > owner-newsletter-dist: owner-newsletter > newsletter-request: "|/home/majordomo/runtime/wrapper > request-answer newsletter" > owner-newsletter-request: owner-newsletter >=20 You can test how well sendmail likes your distribution list by attempting to send directly to the newsletter-dist@mydomain.org address, preferably from an account on the same machine as your majordomo. If this file is fully populated with active email addresses, you might want to replace it with a set of test accounts before doing your test. Dan Liston >=20 > Thank you thank you thank you.... > dave >=20 > -----Original Message----- > From: Daniel Liston [mailto:dliston (at) sonny.org]=20 > Sent: Monday, July 14, 2003 4:27 PM > To: Dave Fontaine > Cc: majordomo-users@greatcircle.com > Subject: Re: Unable to expand a distribution list >=20 > Please post the section of /var/log/maillog related to this error > so we can try to diagnose your situation. >=20 > What does the alias for newsletter-dist: look like? > What does the alias for newsletter: look like? >=20 > Dan Liston >=20 > Dave Fontaine wrote: >=20 >> Hello all, >> Have run into a problem while attempting to make a submission. I can >> execute the config, lists, help type commands with no hitches >> whatsoever. The error that I am getting is: >> **************************** >>=20 >> newsletter-dist@listserv.mydomain.org on 7/10/2003 5:40 PM >> Unable to expand a distribution list to deliver the > message >> to its members. Try again or contact your system administrator. >> < listserv.mydomain.org #5.2.4> >>=20 >>=20 >> **************************** >> I am running Redhat 8.0, sendmail 8.12.5-7, and Majordomo 1.94.5. >> I have done the following to try to correct the problem, but still >> nothing: >>=20 >> I have added 'Tmajordomo' to the sendmail.cf and submit.cf files and >> ensured that the Trusted users line was NOT commented out. I have > added >> majordomo to the trusted-users file in '/etc/mail/'.=20 >>=20 >> I have verified permissions and ownerships as per section 2.1 of the >> Great Circle Majordomo FAQs, 640 for files, 751 for directories and x >> bit set for all major scripts - wrapper, resend, etc.=20=20 >>=20 >> I have verified that wrapper was installed setuid. >>=20 >> I have run the './wrapper config-test' as a third party user and the >> results were 100% positive. Which leads me to believe that this is a >> sendmail problem. >>=20 >> PLEASE help, anyone! :) >> -Dave >=20 >=20 From majordomo-users-owner@greatcircle.com Thu Jul 17 08:02:32 2003 Received: from almso1.proxy.att.com (almso1.att.com [192.128.167.69]) by mycroft.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6504F1967F2 for ; Thu, 17 Jul 2003 08:02:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: from attrh0i.attrh.att.com ([135.37.94.54]) by almso1.proxy.att.com (AT&T IPNS/MSO-5.0) with ESMTP id h6HF1sUv029839 for ; Thu, 17 Jul 2003 11:02:30 -0400 Received: from acclust02evs1.ugd.att.com (135.37.16.9) by attrh0i.attrh.att.com (6.5.032) id 3F08489B002832F0 for majordomo-users@greatcircle.com; Thu, 17 Jul 2003 11:01:48 -0400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.0.6375.0 content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: Keep sending use from getting message.. Date: Thu, 17 Jul 2003 11:02:30 -0400 Message-ID: X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: Keep sending use from getting message.. Thread-Index: AcNMdHDWfi8PP81OQt+pXAuVj0G8mQ== From: "Williams, Travis L, NPONS" To: X-Archive-Number: 200307/92 X-Sequence-Number: 3522 Is there a way to keep the original send of the message from getting the me= ssage back? Travis From majordomo-users-owner@greatcircle.com Thu Jul 17 08:42:07 2003 Received: from brmea-mail-2.sun.com (brmea-mail-2.Sun.COM [192.18.98.43]) by mycroft.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B9BF3196755 for ; Thu, 17 Jul 2003 08:42:06 -0700 (PDT) Received: from phys-bos-1 ([129.146.14.23]) by brmea-mail-2.sun.com (8.12.9/8.12.9) with ESMTP id h6HFZPsZ000955 for ; Thu, 17 Jul 2003 09:40:36 -0600 (MDT) Received: from bos-mail1.SFBay.Sun.COM (esun1as-be21-ge0.Central.Sun.COM [129.147.60.148]) by bos-mail1.sfbay.sun.com (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.16 (built May 14 2003)) with ESMTP id <0HI600KUHE3EH2@bos-mail1.sfbay.sun.com> for majordomo-users@greatcircle.com; Thu, 17 Jul 2003 08:38:15 -0700 (PDT) Date: Thu, 17 Jul 2003 08:37:08 -0700 From: Mike.Oliver@Sun.COM Subject: Re: Unable to expand a distribution list To: Dave Fontaine Cc: majordomo-users@greatcircle.com Reply-To: Mike.Oliver@Sun.COM Message-id: <0HI600KUME3JH2@bos-mail1.sfbay.sun.com> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Sun NetMail 2.3 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-Archive-Number: 200307/93 X-Sequence-Number: 3523 "Dave Fontaine" wrote: >Dan / All: >If I send a message directly to the newsletter-dist address, I get the >same message, unable to expand the distribution list. This looks like a >sendmail problem. Everything in the path (/, /home, /home/majordomo, >/home/majordomo/runtime, /home/majordomo/runtime/lists) is all 751 for >the directories. Everything in the lists directory is 640. Everything >past /home/majordomo is owned majordomo:majordomo. The /etc/aliases file >is 644 root:root. sendmail can't read /home/majordomo/runtime/lists/newsletter and therefore can't honour the :include: directive. Either do 'chmod o+r' on that file or change the file's group ownership to match the GID of the sendmail process (often "daemon"). Mike. -- mike.oliver@sun.com From majordomo-users-owner@greatcircle.com Thu Jul 17 08:52:09 2003 Received: from wchqex01.capwin.org (unknown [65.222.176.6]) by mycroft.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9742219620C for ; Thu, 17 Jul 2003 08:52:07 -0700 (PDT) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.0.6375.0 content-class: urn:content-classes:message Subject: Re: Unable to expand a distribution list MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Date: Thu, 17 Jul 2003 11:52:06 -0400 Message-ID: <16E4F48F81558E45963EB9498A81C2B96469@wchqex01.capwin.org> X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: Unable to expand a distribution list Thread-Index: AcNMecTXW4F0xiovRN2UNVdb9XGalAAAViYQ From: "Dave Fontaine" To: Cc: X-Archive-Number: 200307/94 X-Sequence-Number: 3524 Mike, Changing from 640 to 644 did the trick. I guess with sendmail you can't be too lax but you cant be too secure either. Thanks a MILLION everyone for your assistance. Dave=20 -----Original Message----- From: Mike.Oliver@Sun.COM [mailto:Mike.Oliver@Sun.COM]=20 Sent: Thursday, July 17, 2003 11:37 AM To: Dave Fontaine Cc: majordomo-users@greatcircle.com Subject: Re: Unable to expand a distribution list "Dave Fontaine" wrote: >Dan / All: >If I send a message directly to the newsletter-dist address, I get the >same message, unable to expand the distribution list. This looks like a >sendmail problem. Everything in the path (/, /home, /home/majordomo, >/home/majordomo/runtime, /home/majordomo/runtime/lists) is all 751 for >the directories. Everything in the lists directory is 640. Everything >past /home/majordomo is owned majordomo:majordomo. The /etc/aliases file >is 644 root:root. sendmail can't read /home/majordomo/runtime/lists/newsletter and therefore can't honour the :include: directive. Either do 'chmod o+r' on that file or change the file's group ownership to match the GID of the sendmail process (often "daemon"). Mike. --=20 mike.oliver@sun.com From majordomo-users-owner@greatcircle.com Fri Jul 18 11:22:41 2003 Received: from efcla.propagation.net (efcla.propagation.net [66.221.205.248]) by mycroft.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D74F219651B for ; Fri, 18 Jul 2003 11:22:38 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ADCOM024.efcla.org (jason.adcom.uci.edu [128.200.140.24]) by efcla.propagation.net (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h6IIMao05819 for ; Fri, 18 Jul 2003 13:22:36 -0500 Message-Id: <5.2.0.9.2.20030718112126.00ab3158@apollo.adcom.uci.edu> X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.0.9 Date: Fri, 18 Jul 2003 11:22:36 -0700 To: Majordomo-Users@GreatCircle.com From: Jason Lin Subject: open list Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed X-Archive-Number: 200307/95 X-Sequence-Number: 3525 Hi, Does anyone know a way to closed the subscription of a list to public, but allow anyone to send the email to the list? thanks, Jason From majordomo-users-owner@greatcircle.com Fri Jul 18 12:04:11 2003 Received: from sinetfi1.salliemae.com (sinetfi1.salliemae.com [206.152.237.224]) by mycroft.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 75F2719600E for ; Fri, 18 Jul 2003 12:04:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: from spprlyfi20.usagroup.com (sinetfi9.salliemae.com [206.152.237.35]) by sinetfi1.salliemae.com (4.1/4.1) with ESMTP id h6IJ447e017183 for ; Fri, 18 Jul 2003 14:04:04 -0500 (EST) Received: from fshm2.usagroup.com (fshm2.usagroup.com [172.16.1.18]) by spprlyfi20.usagroup.com (4.1/4.1) with ESMTP id h6IJ44k5027594 for ; Fri, 18 Jul 2003 14:04:04 -0500 (EST) Received: from DOMAIN-E-MTA by fshm2.usagroup.com with Novell_GroupWise; Fri, 18 Jul 2003 14:03:58 -0500 Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise Internet Agent 6.0.4 Beta Date: Fri, 18 Jul 2003 14:03:53 -0500 From: "DENNIS FEHNEL" To: Subject: Re: open list Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline X-Archive-Number: 200307/96 X-Sequence-Number: 3526 Somewhere in the config file you should have the following statements: subscribe_policy =3D closed restrict_post =3D >>> Jason Lin 07/18/03 01:22PM >>> Hi, Does anyone know a way to closed the subscription of a list to public, but= =20 allow anyone to send the email to the list? thanks, Jason This E-Mail has been scanned for viruses. From majordomo-users-owner@greatcircle.com Fri Jul 18 12:11:16 2003 Received: from mailhost.acco.com (mailhost.acco.com [63.118.83.99]) by mycroft.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4088F19682D for ; Fri, 18 Jul 2003 12:11:15 -0700 (PDT) Received: from 63.118.83.251 by mailhost.acco.com with ESMTP (SMTP Relay (MMS v5.5.0)); Fri, 18 Jul 2003 14:11:22 -0500 Received: from LIN-JANUS.na.acco.com ([172.25.12.125]) by LIN-ATLAS.na.acco.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.2966); Fri, 18 Jul 2003 14:11:08 -0500 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.0.6249.0 content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: Body of e-mail messages Date: Fri, 18 Jul 2003 14:11:08 -0500 Message-ID: <9C5C67480C1494408B29FBCF7249AB81010308B2@LIN-JANUS.na.acco.com> X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: Body of e-mail messages Thread-Index: AcNNYFfJzVYQOvXzQQ21F4C+XIWVag== From: "Wojtaszek, Jason" To: majordomo-users@greatcircle.com X-OriginalArrivalTime: 18 Jul 2003 19:11:09.0080 (UTC) FILETIME=[5856F980:01C34D60] X-WSS-ID: 130699D05334164-01-01 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Archive-Number: 200307/97 X-Sequence-Number: 3527 I have a quick question. I am currently using outlook to send to the lists and my format is in Rich Text. I am trying to send announcements which have just different colored text to stick out, some in red and some in blue. The issue is when users read the message I lose this formatting. Is there anyway to keep this formatting. Jason W From majordomo-users-owner@greatcircle.com Fri Jul 18 12:23:04 2003 Received: from apollo.email.starband.net (apollo.email.starband.net [148.78.247.132]) by mycroft.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 21F7C196D27 for ; Fri, 18 Jul 2003 12:23:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: from RonHomeXP (vsat-148-64-36-30.c050.t7.mrt.starband.net [148.64.36.30]) (authenticated bits=0) by apollo.email.starband.net (8.12.9/8.12.9) with ESMTP id h6IJO8Ri020289 for ; Fri, 18 Jul 2003 15:24:14 -0400 From: "Ron Sloan" To: Subject: Can multiple email alias' post to singe list? Date: Fri, 18 Jul 2003 12:22:31 -0700 Message-ID: <017301c34d61$f3ad6760$1e244094@RonHomeXP> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.4510 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Importance: Normal X-Archive-Number: 200307/98 X-Sequence-Number: 3528 Hello, I need to rewrite the subject line of posts, based on the email address sent to. Is this possible? And can I post to the same list with several email addresses? Thanks, Ron From majordomo-users-owner@greatcircle.com Fri Jul 18 12:25:28 2003 Received: from efcla.propagation.net (efcla.propagation.net [66.221.205.248]) by mycroft.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id F1F38196968 for ; Fri, 18 Jul 2003 12:25:26 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ADCOM024.efcla.org (jason.adcom.uci.edu [128.200.140.24]) by efcla.propagation.net (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h6IJPO807172; Fri, 18 Jul 2003 14:25:24 -0500 Message-Id: <5.2.0.9.2.20030718122500.0344e290@efcla.org> X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.0.9 Date: Fri, 18 Jul 2003 12:25:25 -0700 To: "DENNIS FEHNEL" , From: Jason Lin Subject: Re: open list In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed X-Archive-Number: 200307/99 X-Sequence-Number: 3529 It doesn't work. It still "Bounces" the message for approval. Jason At 02:03 PM 7/18/2003 -0500, DENNIS FEHNEL wrote: >Somewhere in the config file you should have the following statements: > >subscribe_policy = closed > >restrict_post = > > >>> Jason Lin 07/18/03 01:22PM >>> >Hi, > >Does anyone know a way to closed the subscription of a list to public, but >allow anyone to send the email to the list? > >thanks, >Jason > > >This E-Mail has been scanned for viruses. From majordomo-users-owner@greatcircle.com Fri Jul 18 13:17:23 2003 Received: from stork.mail.pas.earthlink.net (stork.mail.pas.earthlink.net [207.217.120.188]) by mycroft.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 258B1196649 for ; Fri, 18 Jul 2003 13:17:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: from 216-240-38-250.ip.idiom.com ([216.240.38.250] helo=APTITUDE) by stork.mail.pas.earthlink.net with asmtp (Exim 3.33 #1) id 19dbfH-0003O9-00; Fri, 18 Jul 2003 13:17:15 -0700 From: "Roger B.A Klorese" To: "'Jason Lin'" , "'DENNIS FEHNEL'" , Subject: Re: open list Date: Fri, 18 Jul 2003 13:15:33 -0700 Message-ID: <7AD6B1A7CA734A48B95E96591302A9B918096C@sfdc.us.sychron.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.4510 In-Reply-To: <5.2.0.9.2.20030718122500.0344e290@efcla.org> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Importance: Normal X-ELNK-Trace: 95a5daa1092a4a38d780f4a490ca69564776905774d2ac4bff01f92c9ae673e677021883b09c9c2a350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c X-Archive-Number: 200307/100 X-Sequence-Number: 3530 > From: majordomo-users-owner@greatcircle.com > [mailto:majordomo-users-owner@greatcircle.com] On Behalf Of Jason Lin > Sent: Friday, July 18, 2003 12:25 PM > To: DENNIS FEHNEL; majordomo-users@greatcircle.com > Subject: Re: open list > > > It doesn't work. It still "Bounces" the message for approval. But what reason does it give for the bounce? From majordomo-users-owner@greatcircle.com Fri Jul 18 13:52:08 2003 Received: from sinetfi1.salliemae.com (sinetfi1.salliemae.com [206.152.237.224]) by mycroft.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 98D2219663A for ; Fri, 18 Jul 2003 13:52:04 -0700 (PDT) Received: from spprlyfi10.usagroup.com (gatekeep.usagroup.com [206.152.237.34]) by sinetfi1.salliemae.com (4.1/4.1) with ESMTP id h6IKq37e000198 for ; Fri, 18 Jul 2003 15:52:03 -0500 (EST) Received: from fshm2.usagroup.com (fshm2.usagroup.com [172.16.1.18]) by spprlyfi10.usagroup.com (4.1/4.1) with ESMTP id h6IKq3ht016540 for ; Fri, 18 Jul 2003 15:52:03 -0500 (EST) Received: from DOMAIN-E-MTA by fshm2.usagroup.com with Novell_GroupWise; Fri, 18 Jul 2003 15:51:58 -0500 Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise Internet Agent 6.0.4 Beta Date: Fri, 18 Jul 2003 15:51:55 -0500 From: "DENNIS FEHNEL" To: , Subject: Re: open list Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline X-Archive-Number: 200307/101 X-Sequence-Number: 3531 I thought that is what you wanted. You state that you want "to closed the = subscription of the list". >>> Jason Lin 07/18/03 02:25PM >>> It doesn't work. It still "Bounces" the message for approval. Jason At 02:03 PM 7/18/2003 -0500, DENNIS FEHNEL wrote: >Somewhere in the config file you should have the following statements: > >subscribe_policy =3D closed > >restrict_post =3D > > >>> Jason Lin 07/18/03 01:22PM >>> >Hi, > >Does anyone know a way to closed the subscription of a list to public, but >allow anyone to send the email to the list? > >thanks, >Jason > > >This E-Mail has been scanned for viruses. This E-Mail has been scanned for viruses. From majordomo-users-owner@greatcircle.com Fri Jul 18 17:38:14 2003 Received: from scanmail1.cableone.net (scanmail1.cableone.net [24.116.0.121]) by mycroft.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8D10F196915 for ; Fri, 18 Jul 2003 17:38:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: from scanmail1.cableone.net ([10.116.0.121]) by scanmail1.cableone.net with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1877.687.68); Fri, 18 Jul 2003 17:37:13 -0700 Received: from scanmail1.cableone.net [24.116.0.121] by scanmail1.cableone.net (SMTPD32-7.04) id A2B8653400D2; Fri, 18 Jul 2003 17:37:12 -0700 Received: from daniel.liston.nu (24-116-58-25.cpe.cableone.net [24.116.58.25]) by mail.cableone.net with SMTP (MailShield v2.04 - WIN32 Jul 17 2001 17:12:42); Fri, 18 Jul 2003 17:37:12 -0600 Received: from sonny.org (dad.liston.nu [192.168.1.60]) by daniel.liston.nu (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id h6J0c6tq026536; Fri, 18 Jul 2003 19:38:06 -0500 Message-ID: <3F1893AA.6080401@sonny.org> Date: Fri, 18 Jul 2003 19:41:14 -0500 From: Daniel Liston User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.4) Gecko/20030624 Netscape/7.1 (ax) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Jason Lin Cc: majordomo-users@greatcircle.com Subject: Re: open list References: <5.2.0.9.2.20030718122500.0344e290@efcla.org> In-Reply-To: <5.2.0.9.2.20030718122500.0344e290@efcla.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-SMTP-HELO: daniel.liston.nu X-SMTP-MAIL-FROM: dliston@sonny.org X-SMTP-PEER-INFO: 24-116-58-25.cpe.cableone.net [24.116.58.25] X-Archive-Number: 200307/102 X-Sequence-Number: 3532 Of course it _Worked_ if you realize the actual user was NOT added to the membership file of the list. The request came to you for approval. Just /don't/ approve it, and delete the bounce message. Now if you are saying a message posted from someone that is not a member of the list bounced, make sure your list is not *moderated* either. Posting the BOUNCE message would be even more helpful. Dan Liston Jason Lin wrote: > It doesn't work. It still "Bounces" the message for approval. > > Jason > > At 02:03 PM 7/18/2003 -0500, DENNIS FEHNEL wrote: >>Somewhere in the config file you should have the following statements: >> >>subscribe_policy = closed >> >>restrict_post = >> >> >>> Jason Lin 07/18/03 01:22PM >>> >>Hi, >> >>Does anyone know a way to closed the subscription of a list to public, but >>allow anyone to send the email to the list? >> >>thanks, >>Jason >> >> >>This E-Mail has been scanned for viruses. From majordomo-users-owner@greatcircle.com Fri Jul 18 17:43:29 2003 Received: from scanmail1.cableone.net (scanmail1.cableone.net [24.116.0.121]) by mycroft.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 61109196976 for ; Fri, 18 Jul 2003 17:43:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: from scanmail1.cableone.net ([10.116.0.121]) by scanmail1.cableone.net with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1877.687.68); Fri, 18 Jul 2003 17:42:29 -0700 Received: from scanmail1.cableone.net [24.116.0.121] by scanmail1.cableone.net (SMTPD32-7.04) id A3F565D900D2; Fri, 18 Jul 2003 17:42:29 -0700 Received: from daniel.liston.nu (24-116-58-25.cpe.cableone.net [24.116.58.25]) by mail.cableone.net with SMTP (MailShield v2.04 - WIN32 Jul 17 2001 17:12:42); Fri, 18 Jul 2003 17:42:29 -0600 Received: from sonny.org (dad.liston.nu [192.168.1.60]) by daniel.liston.nu (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id h6J0hPtq026565; Fri, 18 Jul 2003 19:43:25 -0500 Message-ID: <3F1894E9.4090804@sonny.org> Date: Fri, 18 Jul 2003 19:46:33 -0500 From: Daniel Liston User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.4) Gecko/20030624 Netscape/7.1 (ax) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "Wojtaszek, Jason" Cc: majordomo-users@greatcircle.com Subject: Re: Body of e-mail messages References: <9C5C67480C1494408B29FBCF7249AB81010308B2@LIN-JANUS.na.acco.com> In-Reply-To: <9C5C67480C1494408B29FBCF7249AB81010308B2@LIN-JANUS.na.acco.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-SMTP-HELO: daniel.liston.nu X-SMTP-MAIL-FROM: dliston@sonny.org X-SMTP-PEER-INFO: 24-116-58-25.cpe.cableone.net [24.116.58.25] X-Archive-Number: 200307/103 X-Sequence-Number: 3533 This would be better answered by the -owner of your list. If message_fronter or message_footer are implemented, your RTF message is killing those settings. It is also possible the -owner has implemented demiming or html stripping in an attempt to keep your message viewable by members of the list that are not using lookout. If you need HTML/RTF messages, you might try using yahoogroups.com. Dan Liston Wojtaszek, Jason wrote: > I have a quick question. I am currently using outlook to send to the > lists and my format is in Rich Text. I am trying to send announcements > which have just different colored text to stick out, some in red and > some in blue. The issue is when users read the message I lose this > formatting. Is there anyway to keep this formatting. > > Jason W > From majordomo-users-owner@greatcircle.com Fri Jul 18 17:47:54 2003 Received: from scanmail1.cableone.net (scanmail1.cableone.net [24.116.0.121]) by mycroft.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C63A2197615 for ; Fri, 18 Jul 2003 17:47:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: from scanmail1.cableone.net ([10.116.0.121]) by scanmail1.cableone.net with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1877.687.68); Fri, 18 Jul 2003 17:46:57 -0700 Received: from scanmail1.cableone.net [24.116.0.121] by scanmail1.cableone.net (SMTPD32-7.04) id A501AD000D0; Fri, 18 Jul 2003 17:46:57 -0700 Received: from daniel.liston.nu (24-116-58-25.cpe.cableone.net [24.116.58.25]) by mail.cableone.net with SMTP (MailShield v2.04 - WIN32 Jul 17 2001 17:12:42); Fri, 18 Jul 2003 17:46:57 -0600 Received: from sonny.org (dad.liston.nu [192.168.1.60]) by daniel.liston.nu (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id h6J0lrtq026581; Fri, 18 Jul 2003 19:47:53 -0500 Message-ID: <3F1895F5.7040703@sonny.org> Date: Fri, 18 Jul 2003 19:51:01 -0500 From: Daniel Liston User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.4) Gecko/20030624 Netscape/7.1 (ax) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Ron Sloan Cc: majordomo-users@greatcircle.com Subject: Re: Can multiple email alias' post to singe list? References: <017301c34d61$f3ad6760$1e244094@RonHomeXP> In-Reply-To: <017301c34d61$f3ad6760$1e244094@RonHomeXP> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-SMTP-HELO: daniel.liston.nu X-SMTP-MAIL-FROM: dliston@sonny.org X-SMTP-PEER-INFO: 24-116-58-25.cpe.cableone.net [24.116.58.25] X-Archive-Number: 200307/104 X-Sequence-Number: 3534 No, at least it's not possible with majordomo unless you can add/rewrite hundreds of lines of code. This fits in the same category as having individual To: headers or customized footers with the recipients address included. Yes, just don't restrict who can post to the list. If you need this restriction, create another file with all your addresses in it, and add that to the restrict_post setting in your listname.conf file. Dan Liston Ron Sloan wrote: > Hello, > > I need to rewrite the subject line of posts, based on the email address sent > to. Is this possible? And can I post to the same list with several email > addresses? > > Thanks, > Ron > From majordomo-users-owner@greatcircle.com Sat Jul 19 09:10:42 2003 Received: from eagle.netwrx1.com (unknown [156.46.225.18]) by mycroft.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D1D151969A7 for ; Sat, 19 Jul 2003 09:10:40 -0700 (PDT) Received: from georgek (helo=localhost) by eagle.netwrx1.com with local-esmtp (Exim 3.36 #1) id 19duHw-00030h-00; Sat, 19 Jul 2003 11:10:24 -0500 Date: Sat, 19 Jul 2003 11:10:24 -0500 (CDT) From: George Kasica To: Bob Bish Cc: Subject: Re: AOL blocking In-Reply-To: <5.2.0.9.2.20030715193852.00bb3860@pop.earthlink.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Archive-Number: 200307/105 X-Sequence-Number: 3535 Care to share that URL?? George On Tue, 15 Jul 2003, Bob Bish wrote: > It was almost too easy to resolve. They have a web page for testing > for open relays (it's given in the bounce message). I tested the IP > address of the list host. It came back negative, causing their software to > automatically remove it from the block list. It must have been detected as > an open relay as the result of some kind of snafu. At least, that's my > best guess. > The good news is that AOL's blocking of my lists has ceased. It only > lasted for about 8-9 hours total. > > ...Bob > > From majordomo-users-owner@greatcircle.com Sat Jul 19 11:01:46 2003 Received: from athena.spinnet.net (athena.100megabit.com [216.235.147.84]) by mycroft.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9B5E7195F56 for ; Sat, 19 Jul 2003 11:01:43 -0700 (PDT) Received: from i-buddie4.express56.com (pop183-caok.spinnet.net [208.187.129.183]) by athena.spinnet.net (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h6JI1Xv04259 for ; Sat, 19 Jul 2003 14:01:33 -0400 Message-Id: <5.0.2.1.0.20030719110543.00a0e390@127.0.0.1> X-Sender: diankirk/pop3.express56.com@127.0.0.1 X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.0.2 Date: Sat, 19 Jul 2003 11:08:30 -0700 To: majordomo-users@greatcircle.com From: Diana Kirk Subject: Stopping attachments Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed X-Archive-Number: 200307/106 X-Sequence-Number: 3536 Is there some way to prevent Majordomo from sending attachments to the mailing list? It has not happened yet, so maybe I'm worrying needlessly and Majordomo already prevents that, but any information on that issue would be appreciated. Thanks, Diana From majordomo-users-owner@greatcircle.com Sat Jul 19 11:27:16 2003 Received: from chinet.chinet.com (chinet.com [64.232.6.20]) by mycroft.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id CC3261959E6 for ; Sat, 19 Jul 2003 11:27:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: from chinet.chinet.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by chinet.chinet.com (8.12.7/8.12.7/SuSE Linux 0.6) with ESMTP id h6JIR87W011000 for ; Sat, 19 Jul 2003 13:27:08 -0500 Received: from localhost (ahk@localhost) by chinet.chinet.com (8.12.7/8.12.7/Submit) with ESMTP id h6JIR862010996 for ; Sat, 19 Jul 2003 13:27:08 -0500 Date: Sat, 19 Jul 2003 13:27:07 -0500 (CDT) From: "Adam H. Kerman" To: majordomo-users@greatcircle.com Subject: Re: Stopping attachments In-Reply-To: <5.0.2.1.0.20030719110543.00a0e390@127.0.0.1> Message-ID: References: <5.0.2.1.0.20030719110543.00a0e390@127.0.0.1> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-milter (http://amavis.org/) X-Archive-Number: 200307/107 X-Sequence-Number: 3537 At 11:08am -0700, 07/19/03, Diana Kirk wrote: >Is there some way to prevent Majordomo from sending attachments to the >mailing list? Yes. You may find these settings useful. More information about writing Perl regular expressions is found in the list-owner-info file. The Volume number trap is to catch people who don't burst digests before replying to individual messages, to prevent them from quoting back entire digests. The Majordomo Version trap catches the Majordomo Version header I add, to help catch mailing loops. The Multipart trap catches attachments. Winmail.dat is a non-MIME type proprietary attachment some Microsoft clients may add; it's damn annoying. # taboo_body [regexp_array] (undef) # If any line of the body matches one of these regexps, then the # message will be bounced for review. taboo_body << END /X-Majordomo-Version:/i //i /content-transfer-encoding\:.*quoted-printable/i /owner-[listname]-digest\@some.domain/i /owner-[listname]\@some.domain/i /Volume 02 : Number/i /winmail.dat/i /out of the office/i /out of office/i END # taboo_headers [regexp_array] (undef) # If any of the headers matches one of these regexps, then the # message will be bounced for review. taboo_headers << END /X-Majordomo-Version:/i /^to:.*owner-[listname]/i /^to:.*\,.*/i /^cc:/i /content-transfer-encoding:.*quoted-printable/i /content-type: .*multipart/i /^subject:.*Volume 02 : Number/i /^subject:.*V2 \#/i /^subject:.*adv:.*/i /uuencode/i /x-ms-attachment/i /winmail.dat/i END From majordomo-users-owner@greatcircle.com Sat Jul 19 12:08:58 2003 Received: from athena.spinnet.net (athena.100megabit.com [216.235.147.84]) by mycroft.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 47146196EA0 for ; Sat, 19 Jul 2003 12:08:55 -0700 (PDT) Received: from i-buddie4.express56.com (pop183-caok.spinnet.net [208.187.129.183]) by athena.spinnet.net (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h6JJ8Wv14804; Sat, 19 Jul 2003 15:08:32 -0400 Message-Id: <5.0.2.1.0.20030719121325.00a20920@127.0.0.1> X-Sender: diankirk/pop3.express56.com@127.0.0.1 X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.0.2 Date: Sat, 19 Jul 2003 12:15:54 -0700 To: "Adam H. Kerman" , majordomo-users@greatcircle.com From: Diana Kirk Subject: Re: Stopping attachments In-Reply-To: References: <5.0.2.1.0.20030719110543.00a0e390@127.0.0.1> <5.0.2.1.0.20030719110543.00a0e390@127.0.0.1> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed X-Archive-Number: 200307/108 X-Sequence-Number: 3538 Thank you. I really appreciate your response. We've already had one person quote back the entire digest. So *all* of your traps turn out to be needed. Thanks again, Diana At 01:27 PM 7/19/03 -0500, Adam H. Kerman wrote: >At 11:08am -0700, 07/19/03, Diana Kirk wrote: > > >Is there some way to prevent Majordomo from sending attachments to the > >mailing list? > >Yes. You may find these settings useful. More information about writing Perl >regular expressions is found in the list-owner-info file. > >The Volume number trap is to catch people who don't burst digests before >replying to individual messages, to prevent them from quoting back entire >digests. > >The Majordomo Version trap catches the Majordomo Version header I add, to >help catch mailing loops. > >The Multipart trap catches attachments. > >Winmail.dat is a non-MIME type proprietary attachment some Microsoft clients >may add; it's damn annoying. > > # taboo_body [regexp_array] (undef) > # If any line of the body matches one of these regexps, then the > # message will be bounced for review. >taboo_body << END >/X-Majordomo-Version:/i >//i >/content-transfer-encoding\:.*quoted-printable/i >/owner-[listname]-digest\@some.domain/i >/owner-[listname]\@some.domain/i >/Volume 02 : Number/i >/winmail.dat/i >/out of the office/i >/out of office/i >END > > # taboo_headers [regexp_array] (undef) > # If any of the headers matches one of these regexps, then the > # message will be bounced for review. >taboo_headers << END >/X-Majordomo-Version:/i >/^to:.*owner-[listname]/i >/^to:.*\,.*/i >/^cc:/i >/content-transfer-encoding:.*quoted-printable/i >/content-type: .*multipart/i >/^subject:.*Volume 02 : Number/i >/^subject:.*V2 \#/i >/^subject:.*adv:.*/i >/uuencode/i >/x-ms-attachment/i >/winmail.dat/i >END From majordomo-users-owner@greatcircle.com Sat Jul 19 12:37:21 2003 Received: from krusty-motorsports.com (krusty-motorsports.com [192.94.170.8]) by mycroft.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8A2E6196B27 for ; Sat, 19 Jul 2003 12:37:19 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [24.194.112.77] (helo=skipper.averillpark.net) by krusty-motorsports.com with asmtp (TLSv1:DES-CBC3-SHA:168) (Exim 4.14) id 19dxWA-0002As-1y for majordomo-users@greatcircle.com; Sat, 19 Jul 2003 19:37:18 +0000 Received: from rwelty by skipper.averillpark.net with local (Exim 4.14) id 19dxUK-0001Mz-Rd for majordomo-users@greatcircle.com; Sat, 19 Jul 2003 15:35:24 -0400 Date: Sat, 19 Jul 2003 15:35:24 -0400 (EDT) From: Richard Welty Subject: Re: Stopping attachments To: majordomo-users@greatcircle.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII Content-Disposition: INLINE References: <5.0.2.1.0.20030719110543.00a0e390@127.0.0.1> <5.0.2.1.0.20030719110543.00a0e390@127.0.0.1> <5.0.2.1.0.20030719121325.00a20920@127.0.0.1> In-Reply-To: <5.0.2.1.0.20030719121325.00a20920@127.0.0.1> X-Mailer: Mahogany 0.64 'Sparc', compiled for Linux 2.4.9-13 i686 Message-Id: X-Habeas-SWE-1: winter into spring X-Habeas-SWE-2: brightly anticipated X-Habeas-SWE-3: like Habeas SWE (tm) X-Habeas-SWE-4: Copyright 2002 Habeas (tm) X-Habeas-SWE-5: Sender Warranted Email (SWE) (tm). The sender of this X-Habeas-SWE-6: email in exchange for a license for this Habeas X-Habeas-SWE-7: warrant mark warrants that this is a Habeas Compliant X-Habeas-SWE-8: Message (HCM) and not spam. Please report use of this X-Habeas-SWE-9: mark in spam to . X-Archive-Number: 200307/109 X-Sequence-Number: 3539 On Sat, 19 Jul 2003 12:15:54 -0700 Diana Kirk wrote: > Thank you. I really appreciate your response. We've already had one > person > quote back the entire digest. this is depressingly common behavior. > So *all* of your traps turn out to be > needed. you may also wish to investigate demime http://scifi.squawk.com/demime.html which is inserted into the path mail is traversing and which strips out attachements, html email, etc. i've found it invaluble, and also insert it before email sent to -request/majordomo addresses so that poor souls stuck with mime only email systems (like some AOL clients that only send text/html mime) can still access my lists. richard -- Richard Welty rwelty@suespammers.org Averill Park Networking rwelty@averillpark.net Unix, Linux, IP Network Engineering, Security rwelty@krusty-motorsports.com 518-573-7592 From majordomo-users-owner@greatcircle.com Sat Jul 19 16:31:26 2003 Received: from athena.spinnet.net (athena.100megabit.com [216.235.147.84]) by mycroft.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4547B19680E for ; Sat, 19 Jul 2003 16:31:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: from i-buddie4.express56.com (pop197-caol.spinnet.net [208.187.128.197]) by athena.spinnet.net (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h6JNV6v23241; Sat, 19 Jul 2003 19:31:06 -0400 Message-Id: <5.0.2.1.0.20030719162557.00a18350@127.0.0.1> X-Sender: diankirk/pop3.express56.com@127.0.0.1 X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.0.2 Date: Sat, 19 Jul 2003 16:33:47 -0700 To: Richard Welty , majordomo-users@greatcircle.com From: Diana Kirk Subject: Re: Stopping attachments In-Reply-To: References: <5.0.2.1.0.20030719121325.00a20920@127.0.0.1> <5.0.2.1.0.20030719110543.00a0e390@127.0.0.1> <5.0.2.1.0.20030719110543.00a0e390@127.0.0.1> <5.0.2.1.0.20030719121325.00a20920@127.0.0.1> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed X-Archive-Number: 200307/110 X-Sequence-Number: 3540 Thank you, Richard. I will check out your demine suggestion. Today we got a message in a lovely pale blue color from an elderly subscriber. He's a good guy, but very uncomfortable with changing things on his computer. Unfortunately, we have subscribers on systems that make them pay by the minute or by the byte, and HTML can add significantly to their costs. I'm trying to cover all bases before an ugly, difficult problem emerges and people get upset. Thanks again for your suggestion, Diana At 03:35 PM 7/19/03 -0400, Richard Welty wrote: >you may also wish to investigate demime > > http://scifi.squawk.com/demime.html > >which is inserted into the path mail is traversing and which strips out >attachements, html email, etc. i've found it invaluble, and also insert it >before email sent to -request/majordomo addresses so that poor souls stuck >with mime only email systems (like some AOL clients that only send >text/html mime) can still access my lists. From majordomo-users-owner@greatcircle.com Sun Jul 20 02:10:45 2003 Received: from daniel.liston.nu (24-116-58-25.cpe.cableone.net [24.116.58.25]) by mycroft.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B0C19196B8F for ; Sun, 20 Jul 2003 02:10:38 -0700 (PDT) Received: from sonny.org (dad.liston.nu [192.168.1.60]) by daniel.liston.nu (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id h6K9AdkW007634; Sun, 20 Jul 2003 04:10:39 -0500 Message-ID: <3F1A5C82.6050406@sonny.org> Date: Sun, 20 Jul 2003 04:10:26 -0500 From: Daniel Liston User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.4) Gecko/20030624 Netscape/7.1 (ax) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Jason Lin Cc: majordomo-users@greatcircle.com Subject: Re: open list References: <5.2.0.9.2.20030718122500.0344e290@efcla.org> <3F1893AA.6080401@sonny.org> <3F18F836.4090005@efcla.org> In-Reply-To: <3F18F836.4090005@efcla.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Archive-Number: 200307/111 X-Sequence-Number: 3541 I sent an email to the address listed in the subject of your bounce using one of my aliases. Here is what bounces to the sender when using that address; > The original message was received at Sun, 20 Jul 2003 04:06:57 -0500 > from mail@localhost > > ----- The following addresses had permanent fatal errors ----- > null > (reason: 550 5.1.1 User unknown) > > ----- Transcript of session follows ----- > 550 5.1.1 null... User unknown > > > > Reporting-MTA: dns; efcla.propagation.net > Arrival-Date: Sun, 20 Jul 2003 04:06:57 -0500 > > Final-Recipient: RFC822; null@efcla.propagation.net > Action: failed > Status: 5.1.1 > Diagnostic-Code: X-Unix; 550 5.1.1 User unknown > Last-Attempt-Date: Sun, 20 Jul 2003 04:06:58 -0500 Any ideas why the message bounced? What is in the maillog regarding this failed delivery? Dan Liston Jason Lin wrote: > Here is the whole scoop: > > I guess I have a typo in my original message. Here is what I want to do: > > I want anyone to be able send email to a closed list without a need of > approval. (a closed list means no one can subscribe to it) > > Here is my configuration: > > moderate = no > restrict_post = > subscribe_policy = closed > > Here is the email I get for bounced email as subject: > > BOUNCE list1@efcla.org: Non-member submission from [] > > Let me know if you have any insight in configuring this. > > Jason From majordomo-users-owner@greatcircle.com Mon Jul 21 06:15:32 2003 Received: from mail.phila.k12.pa.us (mail.phila.k12.pa.us [170.235.1.4]) by mycroft.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 706E0195AA7 for ; Mon, 21 Jul 2003 06:15:30 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [10.1.34.166] ([10.1.34.166]) by mail.phila.k12.pa.us (8.12.9/8.12.9) with ESMTP id h6LDFM8M017814 for ; Mon, 21 Jul 2003 09:15:22 -0400 (EDT) Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Sender: gab@mail.phila.k12.pa.us Message-Id: Date: Mon, 21 Jul 2003 09:15:14 -0400 To: majordomo-users@greatcircle.com From: "Gary A. Brookstein-Email/Internet Svcs" Subject: Restrict Post Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.15 X-Archive-Number: 200307/112 X-Sequence-Number: 3542 I set up a broadcast list with restrict-post active. If I enter one email address in the restrict-post-list, and that address belongs to the list owner, everything works OK. The owner is able to broadcast to the list, and the other list members cannot. However, if I add two or three additional email addresses to the restrict-post-list the new additions cannot post to the list, but the owner can. Question: How do I add additional users to the restrict-post-list so they too can post? Is there a condition I did not meet in how the names appear on the list, i.e. one per line, or multiple entries per line separated by a comma or space, etc? Thanks! GB From majordomo-users-owner@greatcircle.com Mon Jul 21 22:20:25 2003 Received: from smtp.pspl.co.in (unknown [202.54.11.65]) by mycroft.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5F7361965D1 for ; Mon, 21 Jul 2003 22:20:23 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by smtp.pspl.co.in (8.12.9/8.12.9) id h6M5Pfol030195 for ; Tue, 22 Jul 2003 10:55:41 +0530 Received: from gardner (gardner.intranet.pspl.co.in [192.168.3.101]) (authenticated bits=0) by smtp.pspl.co.in (8.12.9/8.12.9) with ESMTP id h6M5PeD9030182 for ; Tue, 22 Jul 2003 10:55:41 +0530 Message-ID: <06ba01c35010$f1ebb100$6503a8c0@persistent.co.in> From: "Amod Phadke" To: Subject: Majordomo With SMTP AUTH Date: Tue, 22 Jul 2003 10:50:19 +0530 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_06B7_01C3503F.0B4949E0" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.2 required=6.0 tests=HTML_60_70,HTML_MESSAGE version=2.54 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.54 (1.174.2.17-2003-05-11-exp) X-Archive-Number: 200307/113 X-Sequence-Number: 3543 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_06B7_01C3503F.0B4949E0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Has anyone used majordomo with SMTP AUTH ?? ------=_NextPart_000_06B7_01C3503F.0B4949E0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Has anyone used majordomo with SMTP AUTH=20 ??
------=_NextPart_000_06B7_01C3503F.0B4949E0-- From majordomo-users-owner@greatcircle.com Mon Jul 21 22:41:42 2003 Received: from puffin.mail.pas.earthlink.net (puffin.mail.pas.earthlink.net [207.217.120.139]) by mycroft.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 26FB7196E5F for ; Mon, 21 Jul 2003 22:41:40 -0700 (PDT) Received: from user-vcaum40.dsl.mindspring.com ([216.175.88.128] helo=queernet.org) by puffin.mail.pas.earthlink.net with asmtp (TLSv1:RC4-MD5:128) (Exim 3.33 #1) id 19eptx-0004J7-00; Mon, 21 Jul 2003 22:41:29 -0700 Message-ID: <3F1CCE8F.7030403@queernet.org> Date: Mon, 21 Jul 2003 22:41:35 -0700 From: "Roger B.A. Klorese" User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.4) Gecko/20030624 X-Accept-Language: en, en-us, fr-be, fr-ca, fr-fr, fr-lu, fr-mc, fr-ch MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Amod Phadke Cc: majordomo-users@greatcircle.com Subject: Re: Majordomo With SMTP AUTH References: <06ba01c35010$f1ebb100$6503a8c0@persistent.co.in> In-Reply-To: <06ba01c35010$f1ebb100$6503a8c0@persistent.co.in> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-ELNK-Trace: 95a5daa1092a4a38d780f4a490ca69564776905774d2ac4b3da49008f268678e2bc0749b97c9e04d350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c X-Archive-Number: 200307/114 X-Sequence-Number: 3544 Amod Phadke wrote: > Has anyone used majordomo with SMTP AUTH ?? Since majordomo executes the sendmail command, rather than having an SMTP conversation, SMTP AUTH has no effect on it one way or the other. From majordomo-users-owner@greatcircle.com Mon Jul 21 23:27:42 2003 Received: from smtp.pspl.co.in (unknown [202.54.11.65]) by mycroft.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B6D7319617A for ; Mon, 21 Jul 2003 23:27:40 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by smtp.pspl.co.in (8.12.9/8.12.9) id h6M6X0JZ010637 for ; Tue, 22 Jul 2003 12:03:00 +0530 Received: from tashkand (tashkand.intranet.pspl.co.in [192.168.7.196]) (authenticated bits=0) by smtp.pspl.co.in (8.12.9/8.12.9) with ESMTP id h6M6WxC9010604 for ; Tue, 22 Jul 2003 12:02:59 +0530 Message-ID: <1b5c01c3501a$70d89600$c407a8c0@tashkand> From: "Sandeep D. Deshmukh" To: Subject: How to install majordomo on Linux Date: Tue, 22 Jul 2003 11:58:17 +0530 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=6.0 tests=none version=2.54 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.54 (1.174.2.17-2003-05-11-exp) X-Archive-Number: 200307/115 X-Sequence-Number: 3545 How to install majordomo on Linux. Sandeep From majordomo-users-owner@greatcircle.com Tue Jul 22 00:41:49 2003 Received: from soln-sro177.solutionip.com (unknown [12.36.112.226]) by mycroft.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 17B2C197207 for ; Tue, 22 Jul 2003 00:38:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [12.44.189.4] (helo=sonny.org) by soln-sro177.solutionip.com with esmtp (Exim 3.34 #1) id 19erjL-0007oZ-00; Tue, 22 Jul 2003 00:38:39 -0700 Message-ID: <3F1CE9D0.1070102@sonny.org> Date: Tue, 22 Jul 2003 02:37:52 -0500 From: Daniel Liston User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.2.1) Gecko/20030225 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "Gary A. Brookstein-Email/Internet Svcs" Cc: majordomo-users@greatcircle.com Subject: Re: Restrict Post References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Archive-Number: 200307/116 X-Sequence-Number: 3546 The restrict_post setting in your listname.config file are filename(s) that may be space or colon separated. The contents of the files contain email addresses, one per line that are allowed to post to the listname list. Dan Liston Gary A. Brookstein-Email/Internet Svcs wrote: > I set up a broadcast list with restrict-post active. > > If I enter one email address in the restrict-post-list, and that address belongs to the list owner, everything works OK. The owner is able to broadcast to the list, and the other list members cannot. > > However, if I add two or three additional email addresses to the restrict-post-list the new additions cannot post to the list, but the owner can. > > Question: How do I add additional users to the restrict-post-list so they too can post? Is there a condition I did not meet in how the names appear on the list, i.e. one per line, or multiple entries per line separated by a comma or space, etc? > > > Thanks! > > > GB From majordomo-users-owner@greatcircle.com Tue Jul 22 00:48:06 2003 Received: from soln-sro177.solutionip.com (unknown [12.36.112.226]) by mycroft.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 818C7197198 for ; Tue, 22 Jul 2003 00:47:30 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [12.44.189.4] (helo=sonny.org) by soln-sro177.solutionip.com with esmtp (Exim 3.34 #1) id 19erri-0008UF-00; Tue, 22 Jul 2003 00:47:18 -0700 Message-ID: <3F1CEBD7.2000204@sonny.org> Date: Tue, 22 Jul 2003 02:46:31 -0500 From: Daniel Liston User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.2.1) Gecko/20030225 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "Sandeep D. Deshmukh" Cc: majordomo-users@greatcircle.com Subject: Re: How to install majordomo on Linux References: <1b5c01c3501a$70d89600$c407a8c0@tashkand> In-Reply-To: <1b5c01c3501a$70d89600$c407a8c0@tashkand> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Archive-Number: 200307/117 X-Sequence-Number: 3547 For any RedHat newer than 6.0, try this RPM. http://www.sonny.org/majordomo/majordomo-1.94.5-2.i386.rpm Dan Liston Sandeep D. Deshmukh wrote: > How to install majordomo on Linux. > > > > Sandeep > > > From majordomo-users-owner@greatcircle.com Tue Jul 22 01:41:40 2003 Received: from smtp.pspl.co.in (unknown [202.54.11.65]) by mycroft.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0010F19726A for ; Tue, 22 Jul 2003 01:24:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by smtp.pspl.co.in (8.12.9/8.12.9) id h6M8UKqe014225 for ; Tue, 22 Jul 2003 14:00:20 +0530 Received: from gardner (gardner.intranet.pspl.co.in [192.168.3.101]) (authenticated bits=0) by persistent.co.in (8.12.9/8.12.9) with ESMTP id h6M8UKsW014210 for ; Tue, 22 Jul 2003 14:00:20 +0530 Message-ID: <099001c3502a$bc5cc230$6503a8c0@persistent.co.in> From: "Amod Phadke" To: References: <1b5c01c3501a$70d89600$c407a8c0@tashkand> Subject: Re: How to install majordomo on Linux Date: Tue, 22 Jul 2003 13:54:57 +0530 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-0.5 required=6.0 tests=REFERENCES version=2.54 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.54 (1.174.2.17-2003-05-11-exp) X-Archive-Number: 200307/118 X-Sequence-Number: 3548 you can take a look at http://www.greatcircle.com/majordomo/ Amod ----- Original Message ----- From: "Sandeep D. Deshmukh" To: Sent: Tuesday, July 22, 2003 11:58 AM Subject: How to install majordomo on Linux > How to install majordomo on Linux. > > > > Sandeep > > > > From majordomo-users-owner@greatcircle.com Wed Jul 23 14:19:01 2003 Received: from academic2.csuohio.edu (academic2.csuohio.edu [137.148.49.45]) by mycroft.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B204D196B15 for ; Wed, 23 Jul 2003 14:18:56 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from cwood@localhost) by academic2.csuohio.edu (8.11.7+Sun/8.10.1) id h6NLIti13263 for majordomo-users@greatcircle.com; Wed, 23 Jul 2003 17:18:55 -0400 (EDT) Date: Wed, 23 Jul 2003 17:18:55 -0400 (EDT) From: cwood@academic2.csuohio.edu Message-Id: <200307232118.h6NLIti13263@academic2.csuohio.edu> To: majordomo-users@greatcircle.com Subject: MajorCool Install X-Archive-Number: 200307/119 X-Sequence-Number: 3549 I had installed MajorCool on our web server to administer Majordomo, and it worked before. I had to reinstall Majordomo, and got it working again, and reinstalled Majorcool, and now it does not work. When I access the /cgi-bin/majordomo (where I put majorcool), now I get an HTTP 500 internal server error. If anyone can help me with this, let me know what information I need to give you about my configuration. Thanks! - From majordomo-users-owner@greatcircle.com Wed Jul 23 22:53:34 2003 Received: from ealcatraz.com (rhea.webvis.net [202.157.145.2]) by mycroft.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3B234196DE0 for ; Wed, 23 Jul 2003 22:53:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: from tr ([203.196.153.206]) by ealcatraz.com ; Thu, 24 Jul 2003 13:44:56 +0800 GMT From: "Harshul Nayak (ealcatraz)" To: "Sandeep D. Deshmukh" Cc: "Majordomo-Users@Greatcircle. Com" Subject: Re: How to install majordomo on Linux Date: Thu, 24 Jul 2003 11:24:59 -0000 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0174_01C351D6.377E6F70" X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <1b5c01c3501a$70d89600$c407a8c0@tashkand> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 X-Archive-Number: 200307/120 X-Sequence-Number: 3550 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0174_01C351D6.377E6F70 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Hi Sandeep, TRy out the FAQ , it's will surely guide you with installation and configuration steps. http://www.greatcircle.com/majordomo/majordomo-faq.html I have not tried but read somewhere RPM would give problems during the installation. Hence would suggest installation using the source tar file. Also , the install note in the TAR file is more than enough to know how to install. Wish u luc. -Harshul Copyright © 2002 Sintelli http://www.sintelli.com -----Original Message----- From: majordomo-users-owner@greatcircle.com [mailto:majordomo-users-owner@greatcircle.com]On Behalf Of Sandeep D. Deshmukh Sent: Tuesday, July 22, 2003 6:28 AM To: majordomo-users@greatcircle.com Subject: How to install majordomo on Linux How to install majordomo on Linux. Sandeep ------=_NextPart_000_0174_01C351D6.377E6F70 Content-Type: text/x-vcard; name="harshul n nayak.vcf" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="harshul n nayak.vcf" BEGIN:VCARD VERSION:2.1 N:nayak;harshul;n FN:harshul n nayak NICKNAME:harsh ORG:e Alcatraz;R&D TITLE:IS Engineer NOTE;ENCODING=QUOTED-PRINTABLE:Where there is a Will ,=0D=0AThere is a way. URL;WORK:http://www.ealcatraz.com EMAIL;PREF;INTERNET:harshul@ealcatraz.com REV:20030307T200051Z END:VCARD ------=_NextPart_000_0174_01C351D6.377E6F70-- From majordomo-users-owner@greatcircle.com Wed Jul 23 23:45:56 2003 Received: from mailrelay.netcologne.de (mailrelay.netcologne.de [194.8.194.96]) by mycroft.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B0489195AEF for ; Wed, 23 Jul 2003 23:45:54 -0700 (PDT) Received: from smtpp1.gewkoelnag.de (unknown [195.14.248.101]) by mailrelay.netcologne.de (Postfix) with SMTP id 5F29442624; Thu, 24 Jul 2003 08:45:52 +0200 (MEST) Received: from bmexchg01p.brunata-huerth.de (unknown [10.106.4.10]) by smtpp1.gewkoelnag.de (Postfix) with SMTP id A3960186D9; Thu, 24 Jul 2003 08:45:52 +0200 (MEST) Received: through eSafe SMTP Relay 1058189902; Thu Jul 24 08:44:59 2003 Received: from zum ([10.20.1.13]) by bmexchg01p.brunata-huerth.de with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.5329); Thu, 24 Jul 2003 08:45:40 +0200 From: "Georg Zumstrull" To: , Subject: Re: MajorCool Install Date: Thu, 24 Jul 2003 08:45:52 +0200 Message-ID: <13EA95760D05F14FA80EC56A3F050DFA10BDF5@exchg5.gewkoelnag.de> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook CWS, Build 9.0.6604 (9.0.2911.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4927.1200 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <13EA95760D05F14FA80EC56A3F050DFAADA8D7@exchg5.gewkoelnag.de> X-OriginalArrivalTime: 24 Jul 2003 06:45:40.0994 (UTC) FILETIME=[32CD2E20:01C351AF] X-Archive-Number: 200307/121 X-Sequence-Number: 3551 You should have a look at the httpd error log to get more info. Georg > -----Original Message----- > From: majordomo-users-owner@greatcircle.com > [mailto:majordomo-users-owner@greatcircle.com]On Behalf Of > cwood@academic2.csuohio.edu > Sent: Wednesday, July 23, 2003 11:19 PM > To: majordomo-users@greatcircle.com > Subject: MajorCool Install > > > I had installed MajorCool on our web server to administer > Majordomo, and it worked before. I had to reinstall > Majordomo, and got it working again, and reinstalled > Majorcool, and now it does not work. When I access the > /cgi-bin/majordomo (where I put majorcool), now I get > an HTTP 500 internal server error. If anyone can help > me with this, let me know what information I need to > give you about my configuration. > > Thanks! > - > ************************************************************************************************** The contents of this email and any attachments are confidential. It is intended for the named recipient(s) only. If you have received this email in error please notify the system manager or the sender immediately and do not disclose the contents to any one or make copies. ** eSafe scanned this email for viruses, vandals and malicious content ** ************************************************************************************************** From majordomo-users-owner@greatcircle.com Thu Jul 24 00:57:49 2003 Received: from uni-kiel.de (tms.rz.uni-kiel.de [134.245.11.89]) by mycroft.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 56C40195FD7 for ; Thu, 24 Jul 2003 00:34:36 -0700 (PDT) Received: from amavis by uni-kiel.de with scanned-ok (Exim 3.33 #1) id 19facS-0005Gb-00 for majordomo-users@greatcircle.com; Thu, 24 Jul 2003 09:34:32 +0200 Received: from solaire.rz.uni-kiel.de ([134.245.1.39] ident=root) by uni-kiel.de with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #1) id 19facO-0005GM-00; Thu, 24 Jul 2003 09:34:28 +0200 Received: from rz.uni-kiel.de (dbpc.rz.uni-kiel.de [134.245.7.102]) by solaire.rz.uni-kiel.de (8.11.7+Sun/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h6O7YOT28018; Thu, 24 Jul 2003 09:34:25 +0200 (MET DST) Message-ID: <3F1F8CAC.4090705@rz.uni-kiel.de> Date: Thu, 24 Jul 2003 09:37:16 +0200 From: Dirk Kraemer Organization: Computer Center University Kiel User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; de-AT; rv:1.4) Gecko/20030624 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en, de MIME-Version: 1.0 To: cwood@academic2.csuohio.edu Cc: majordomo-users@greatcircle.com Subject: Re: MajorCool Install References: <200307232118.h6NLIti13263@academic2.csuohio.edu> In-Reply-To: <200307232118.h6NLIti13263@academic2.csuohio.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: by AMaViS perl-11 (Uni-Kiel/tms) X-Archive-Number: 200307/122 X-Sequence-Number: 3552 That's an internal error, check web server logs, might be something like - file not executable, wrong protection - path of perl interpreter is wrong, e.g. /usr/local/bin/perl instead of /usr/bin/perl or wherever it is installed. Search for line like PERLBIN="/usr/bin/perl" # How to start a perl script and check the path... Dirk Kraemer cwood@academic2.csuohio.edu wrote: >I had installed MajorCool on our web server to administer >Majordomo, and it worked before. I had to reinstall >Majordomo, and got it working again, and reinstalled >Majorcool, and now it does not work. When I access the >/cgi-bin/majordomo (where I put majorcool), now I get >an HTTP 500 internal server error. If anyone can help >me with this, let me know what information I need to >give you about my configuration. > >Thanks! >- > > From majordomo-users-owner@greatcircle.com Thu Jul 24 01:51:39 2003 Received: from soln-sro177.solutionip.com (unknown [12.36.112.226]) by mycroft.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9E51B197533 for ; Thu, 24 Jul 2003 01:45:37 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [12.44.189.4] (helo=sonny.org) by soln-sro177.solutionip.com with esmtp (Exim 3.34 #1) id 19fbj7-0000FT-00; Thu, 24 Jul 2003 01:45:29 -0700 Message-ID: <3F1F9C77.90705@sonny.org> Date: Thu, 24 Jul 2003 03:44:39 -0500 From: Daniel Liston User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.2.1) Gecko/20030225 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "Harshul Nayak (ealcatraz)" Cc: "Sandeep D. Deshmukh" , "Majordomo-Users@Greatcircle. Com" Subject: Re: How to install majordomo on Linux References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Archive-Number: 200307/123 X-Sequence-Number: 3553 I have installed the RPM (URL posted previously) on every version of RedHat since 6.1 *without* installation problems, and it is an easier process for newbies, but I agree that everyone wanting to install any application should read the FAQs before making any attempt to do so. Which ever path is followed to get bits onto the file system, I also recommend reading the NEWLIST and list-owner-info files. Dan Liston Harshul Nayak (ealcatraz) wrote: > Hi Sandeep, > > TRy out the FAQ , > it's will surely guide you with installation and configuration steps. > > http://www.greatcircle.com/majordomo/majordomo-faq.html > > I have not tried but read somewhere RPM would give problems during the > installation. Hence would suggest installation using the source tar file. > Also , the install note in the TAR file is more than enough to know how to > install. > Wish u luc. > -Harshul > Copyright © 2002 Sintelli > http://www.sintelli.com > > > -----Original Message----- > From: majordomo-users-owner@greatcircle.com > [mailto:majordomo-users-owner@greatcircle.com]On Behalf Of Sandeep D. > Deshmukh > Sent: Tuesday, July 22, 2003 6:28 AM > To: majordomo-users@greatcircle.com > Subject: How to install majordomo on Linux > > > How to install majordomo on Linux. > > > > Sandeep > > > From majordomo-users-owner@greatcircle.com Thu Jul 24 03:49:17 2003 Received: from uekae.uekae.gov.tr (unknown [212.174.195.226]) by mycroft.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E9267196B52 for ; Thu, 24 Jul 2003 03:49:15 -0700 (PDT) Received: from 192.168.5.6 (hitit.uekae.gov.tr [192.168.5.6]) by uekae.uekae.gov.tr (UEKAE MAIL SERVER) with SMTP id AF57A77A0 for ; Thu, 24 Jul 2003 13:49:13 +0300 (EEST) Received: from 192.168.6.41 (SquirrelMail authenticated user ofsen) by 192.168.5.6 with HTTP; Thu, 24 Jul 2003 13:48:56 +0300 (EEST) Message-ID: <1338.192.168.6.41.1059043736.squirrel@192.168.5.6> Date: Thu, 24 Jul 2003 13:48:56 +0300 (EEST) Subject: -outgoing alias? From: "Omer Faruk Sen" To: majordomo-users@greatcircle.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-9 X-Priority: 3 Importance: Normal Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Archive-Number: 200307/124 X-Sequence-Number: 3554 I have a semantic problem about majordomo (I think). According to mail send= : http://www.greatcircle.com/lists/majordomo-users/mhonarc/majordomo-users.20= 0307/msg00088.html ------------------------------------------------------------------------- test: "|/opt/majordomo-1.94.5/wrapper resend -l test test-outgoing,nobody" owner-test: test-owner, test-owner: dliston test-approval: test-owner test-outgoing: :include:/opt/majordomo-1.94.5/lists/test,test-archiver,test-digestify test-archiver: "|/opt/majordomo-1.94.5/wrapper archive2.pl -f /opt/majordomo-1.94.5/archives/test/test -a -M" test-digestify: "|/opt/majordomo-1.94.5/wrapper digest -r -C -l test-digest test-digest-outgoing,nobody" test-request: "|/opt/majordomo-1.94.5/wrapper majordomo -l test" test-digest: test ----------------------------------------------------------- test-outgoing includes listmembers. And I can freely send email to test-outgoing with bypassing membership issues. I have setup an emaillist according to that but that -outgoing alias can be seen in my mail header. How can I disable it. The header options that I want to (should) remove is: X-Delivered-To: listname-outgoing.. Delivered-To: listname-outgoing.. Any help is really appreciated REGARDS --=20 From majordomo-users-owner@greatcircle.com Thu Jul 24 05:11:39 2003 Received: from mail.nmia.com (mail3.nmia.com [64.42.128.67]) by mycroft.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with SMTP id 555521975B7 for ; Thu, 24 Jul 2003 05:11:37 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 82521 invoked by uid 104); 24 Jul 2003 12:11:36 -0000 Received: from writch@watts.writch.com by mail.nmia.com by uid 101 with qmail-scanner-1.10 (uvscan: v4.0.70/v4227. . Clear:0. Processed in 0.351648 secs); 24 Jul 2003 12:11:36 -0000 X-Qmail-Scanner-Mail-From: writch@watts.writch.com via mail.nmia.com X-Qmail-Scanner: 1.10 (Clear:0. Processed in 0.351648 secs) Received: from wrights.static.nmia.com (HELO watts.writch.com) (64.42.134.63) by mail3.nmia.com with SMTP; 24 Jul 2003 12:11:36 -0000 Received: from [192.168.0.2] (imaque.writch.com [192.168.0.2]) by watts.writch.com (8.12.3/8.12.3/SuSE Linux 0.6) with ESMTP id h6OCBYWE024062 for ; Thu, 24 Jul 2003 06:11:35 -0600 Mime-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: Date: Thu, 24 Jul 2003 06:09:44 -0600 To: majordomo-users@greatcircle.com From: Richard Haley Subject: Moderated List--Invalid Approved Header Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-6.6 required=200.0 tests=BAYES_01 version=2.50 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.50 (1.173-2003-02-20-exp) X-Archive-Number: 200307/125 X-Sequence-Number: 3555 I ran across a problem yesterday in setting up a moderated list (my first that I built myself, as all my previous lists were discussion forums). I looked in the FAQ (and around on groups on google), but found nada. The problem was that in any way I tried (manually, approve script, sendmail from a shell, etc.) the net result was that the message was rejected with the message: "Invalid Approved Header". I first upgraded from 1.5 to 1.94.5 (worthwhile generally, but accomplished nothing in this respect). I kept digging, and I found a resolution, but I don't know how valid it was (or whether I am simply losing my mind). Please let me know what you think: In the Perl file "resend" on line 160 there is a variable named "$opt_a" defined. Later, at around lines 372 and 658 it is tested for equivalence to the variable "$approved". When double checked, this was comparing the password supplied with the name of the password file itself. In my case, instead of checking my password, "goofy" against the contents of mod.pass ("goofy") it was testing it against the name, "mod.pass". I added another variable right after the definition of $opt_a called "$opt_test" which was defined such: $opt_test = `cat $listdir//$opt_a`; chomp($opt_test); I then replaced $opt_a with $opt_test in the two tests mentioned. From that point on, all the previously described methods worked ok. Do you think that I caused myself any future headaches by resolving it in this manner? Did I miss something really obvious in the setup that I should go back and resolve and then return the code to its pristine condition? -- Richard Haley Albuquerque, New Mexico (505) 268-5694 From majordomo-users-owner@greatcircle.com Thu Jul 24 07:42:29 2003 Received: from mail.nmia.com (mail3.nmia.com [64.42.128.67]) by mycroft.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with SMTP id 5901D196A1C for ; Thu, 24 Jul 2003 07:42:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 4381 invoked by uid 104); 24 Jul 2003 14:42:27 -0000 Received: from writch@watts.writch.com by mail.nmia.com by uid 101 with qmail-scanner-1.10 (uvscan: v4.0.70/v4227. . Clear:0. Processed in 0.352942 secs); 24 Jul 2003 14:42:27 -0000 X-Qmail-Scanner-Mail-From: writch@watts.writch.com via mail.nmia.com X-Qmail-Scanner: 1.10 (Clear:0. Processed in 0.352942 secs) Received: from wrights.static.nmia.com (HELO watts.writch.com) (64.42.134.63) by mail3.nmia.com with SMTP; 24 Jul 2003 14:42:26 -0000 Received: from [192.168.0.2] (imaque.writch.com [192.168.0.2]) by watts.writch.com (8.12.3/8.12.3/SuSE Linux 0.6) with ESMTP id h6OEgQWE029483 for ; Thu, 24 Jul 2003 08:42:26 -0600 Mime-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: Date: Thu, 24 Jul 2003 08:40:35 -0600 To: majordomo-users@greatcircle.com From: Richard Haley Subject: Moderated List--Invalid Approved Header Followup Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-6.6 required=200.0 tests=BAYES_01 version=2.50 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.50 (1.173-2003-02-20-exp) X-Archive-Number: 200307/126 X-Sequence-Number: 3556 Ok, so I am getting it going, and my first attempt at sending mail to configure something with the password fails. I look in majordomo.pl, and on line 477 I find that it is asking for the 'admin password' but the filename is hard coded as $clean_list.passwd (???). The defaults were XXX.admin and XXX.pass (I thought). Still, shouldn't it get this from the listname.config file? And shouldn't it use XXX.admin instead (at least)? Anyway, I changed the code to reflect the default name. -- Richard Haley Albuquerque, New Mexico (505) 268-5694 From majordomo-users-owner@greatcircle.com Thu Jul 24 19:49:40 2003 Received: from puffin.mail.pas.earthlink.net (puffin.mail.pas.earthlink.net [207.217.120.139]) by mycroft.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C972819790D for ; Thu, 24 Jul 2003 19:49:37 -0700 (PDT) Received: from user-vcaum40.dsl.mindspring.com ([216.175.88.128] helo=queernet.org) by puffin.mail.pas.earthlink.net with asmtp (TLSv1:RC4-MD5:128) (Exim 3.33 #1) id 19fseE-0004jU-00; Thu, 24 Jul 2003 19:49:35 -0700 Message-ID: <3F209ACF.5050002@queernet.org> Date: Thu, 24 Jul 2003 19:49:51 -0700 From: "Roger B.A. Klorese" User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.4) Gecko/20030624 X-Accept-Language: en, en-us, fr-be, fr-ca, fr-fr, fr-lu, fr-mc, fr-ch MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Richard Haley Cc: majordomo-users@greatcircle.com Subject: Re: Moderated List--Invalid Approved Header Followup References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-ELNK-Trace: 95a5daa1092a4a38d780f4a490ca69564776905774d2ac4b80e680c0548207f8d3f0994b640080a3350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c X-Archive-Number: 200307/127 X-Sequence-Number: 3557 Richard Haley wrote: >Ok, so I am getting it going, and my first attempt at sending mail to configure something with the password fails. > >I look in majordomo.pl, and on line 477 I find that it is asking for the 'admin password' but the filename is hard coded as $clean_list.passwd (???). > >The defaults were XXX.admin and XXX.pass (I thought). Still, shouldn't it get this from the listname.config file? And shouldn't it use XXX.admin instead (at least)? > >Anyway, I changed the code to reflect the default name. > > That's a silly thing to do. Perhaps you should figure out how the software works first. There are THREE passwords for every list. One, the contents of the LISTNAME.passwd file, is a legacy from the days before there were config files in Majordomo -- but it still works. The other two are the ones in the config file. All THREE passwords are checked. From majordomo-users-owner@greatcircle.com Sat Jul 26 08:59:10 2003 Received: from sonny.org (24-116-58-25.cpe.cableone.net [24.116.58.25]) by mycroft.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9695A196BB2 for ; Sat, 26 Jul 2003 08:58:51 -0700 (PDT) Received: from sonny.org (dad.liston.nu [192.168.1.60]) by sonny.org (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id h6QFwlpk003462; Sat, 26 Jul 2003 10:58:54 -0500 Message-ID: <3F22A53B.2050903@sonny.org> Date: Sat, 26 Jul 2003 10:58:51 -0500 From: Daniel Liston User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.4) Gecko/20030624 Netscape/7.1 (ax) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Omer Faruk Sen Cc: majordomo-users@greatcircle.com Subject: Re: -outgoing alias? References: <1338.192.168.6.41.1059043736.squirrel@192.168.5.6> In-Reply-To: <1338.192.168.6.41.1059043736.squirrel@192.168.5.6> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Archive-Number: 200307/128 X-Sequence-Number: 3558 What MTA are you using? Are your aliases for your list *EXACTLY* like the ones posted? Even one character makes a difference. Posting to any alias with an :include: statement on the right hand side, whether majordomo is involved or it has -outgoing in the name is irrelevant. Preventing the alias from being shown in the message headers, or stopping anyone outside your server from using the address is up to the syntax in your aliases file and possibly other files related to the MTA you are using. Majordomo has no control over such things, unless your mailing list .config files are adding these header lines. Dan Liston Omer Faruk Sen wrote: > I have a semantic problem about majordomo (I think). According to mail send : > http://www.greatcircle.com/lists/majordomo-users/mhonarc/majordomo-users.200307/msg00088.html > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- > test: "|/opt/majordomo-1.94.5/wrapper resend -l test test-outgoing,nobody" > > owner-test: test-owner, > > test-owner: dliston > > test-approval: test-owner > > test-outgoing: > :include:/opt/majordomo-1.94.5/lists/test,test-archiver,test-digestify > > test-archiver: "|/opt/majordomo-1.94.5/wrapper archive2.pl -f > /opt/majordomo-1.94.5/archives/test/test -a -M" > > test-digestify: "|/opt/majordomo-1.94.5/wrapper digest -r -C -l > test-digest test-digest-outgoing,nobody" > > test-request: "|/opt/majordomo-1.94.5/wrapper majordomo -l test" > > test-digest: test > > ----------------------------------------------------------- > > test-outgoing includes listmembers. And I can freely send email to > test-outgoing with bypassing membership issues. I have setup an emaillist > according to that but that -outgoing alias can be seen in my mail header. > How can I disable it. The header options that I want to (should) remove > is: > > X-Delivered-To: listname-outgoing.. > Delivered-To: listname-outgoing.. > > > Any help is really appreciated > > REGARDS From majordomo-users-owner@greatcircle.com Sat Jul 26 09:09:04 2003 Received: from sonny.org (24-116-58-25.cpe.cableone.net [24.116.58.25]) by mycroft.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6382519638E for ; Sat, 26 Jul 2003 09:09:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: from sonny.org (dad.liston.nu [192.168.1.60]) by sonny.org (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id h6QG96pk003508; Sat, 26 Jul 2003 11:09:06 -0500 Message-ID: <3F22A7A6.3020304@sonny.org> Date: Sat, 26 Jul 2003 11:09:10 -0500 From: Daniel Liston User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.4) Gecko/20030624 Netscape/7.1 (ax) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Richard Haley Cc: majordomo-users@greatcircle.com Subject: Re: Moderated List--Invalid Approved Header Followup References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Archive-Number: 200307/129 X-Sequence-Number: 3559 Read the list-owner-info file if you are approving via email commands, and read the approve script if you want to understand this from the command line of your shell. Richard Haley wrote: > Ok, so I am getting it going, and my first attempt at sending mail to configure something with the password fails. Are you sure it is the password that is failing, or the method you are providing the password? > > I look in majordomo.pl, and on line 477 I find that it is asking for the 'admin password' but the filename is hard coded as $clean_list.passwd (???). The primary admin password is a setting in your listname.config file, but due to legacy reasons is available elsewhere. Concentrate on the listname.config file location. > > The defaults were XXX.admin and XXX.pass (I thought). Still, shouldn't it get this from the listname.config file? And shouldn't it use XXX.admin instead (at least)? Using .admin or .pass or .butthead has nothing to do with the configuration failing to approve your moderated messages. The password provided in the "approve" email must match the setting in the listname.config file, and *IS* case sensitive. If you try to approve the message using any kind of RTF or HTML body content, the attempt will fail. you MUST use plain text format. > > Anyway, I changed the code to reflect the default name. I hope you did not break any other dependencies on these lines. Dan Liston From majordomo-users-owner@greatcircle.com Sun Jul 27 14:00:41 2003 Received: from star3.baremetal.com (star3.baremetal.com [216.86.113.236]) by mycroft.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4BC7F19691F for ; Sun, 27 Jul 2003 14:00:38 -0700 (PDT) Received: from interaccess.org ([81.11.157.104]) by star3.baremetal.com (8.12.9/8.12.4) with ESMTP id h6RL0FDa020318; Sun, 27 Jul 2003 14:00:16 -0700 Message-ID: <3F243D74.2030405@interaccess.org> Date: Sun, 27 Jul 2003 23:00:36 +0200 From: Jeff Mann User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; PPC Mac OS X Mach-O; en-US; rv:1.5a) Gecko/20030721 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: majordomo-users@greatcircle.com Subject: Re: dealing with spam Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Archive-Number: 200307/130 X-Sequence-Number: 3560 Henry Hartley wrote: > > Date: Mon, 2 Jun 2003 11:33:56 -0400 > To: Majordomo-Users@greatcircle.com > > I've got two possibly related questions: > > 1) I manage a small server with a few small lists on it. They are > small, private lists. For instance, I've got two "family" lists > that let my brothers, parents, etc. keep in touch without everyone > having to keep track of all the addresses. Somehow, the address for > one of these lists has made its way onto one or more SPAM lists. At > least 15 SPAM messages every day are sent to this address. Although > it doesn't affect the rest of the list members, because they never > see them, I get notifications from majordomo about "Non-member > submissions from ..." Is there any way to tell MD just to throw > them out without sending me mail about them? > > 2) It seems that SPAM is being sent to majordomo@mydomain.com > (domain name changed to protect the innocent). Majordomo responds > with a message containing the original text and after each line the > line: "**** Command '' not recognized." Since much SPAM > is sent with invalid return addresses, these responses are not > getting to anyone. Instead, they bounce to me, as mail admin. > These, in particular, I probably don't need to see. Last week, this > happened and the mail sent by MD was returned because the mailbox at > the other end had filled up. Majordomo (or possibly sendmail?) kept > trying to send them. My mailbox filled up with these notices (over > 5,000 of them) and the mqueue directory filled up with queued > messages. My 500 MB /var partition filled up turning this into a > mild but annoying sort of DNS attack. > > My lists are small enough that people get in touch with me directly > if they have a problem so I'd like for these messages to go into > /dev/null or something. Suggestions? > > -- > Henry Hi - I've just made some changes to majordomo to address both these spam issues. The first is a modification to majordomo.pl and majordomo to address 2) above - when spam is sent to majordomo@mydomain.com, no commands are found in it. With my modification, no reply will be sent, and hence no bounce-back. Someone would need to at least send the "help" command to get a response. 99+% of messages without commands are spam, and most of the replies to them bounce back to the majordomo owner. Since majordomo already opens a pipe to the sendmail command and starts writing to it before it knows whether any commands are found, I decided to just kill the sendmail process if nothing is found, rather than go through all the extra coding of creating a temporary file for the reply before the mailer command is started. I don't think there are any adverse affects of killing the process, but please correct me if I'm wrong... Below are diffs for 1.94.4, if you have 1.94.5, you can probably figure it out: in majordomo.pl, at the end of sub main'sendmail, return the process id of the mailer: [ia@star3 ~/majordomo-1.94.4]$ diff majordomo.pl.orig majordomo.pl 461c461,464 < return; --- > # modification by Jeff Mann > # $isParent contains the process id of the mailer from the open(), > # used by majordomo to kill it if no commands found > return $isParent; in majordomo, save the process id in $reply_pid when sendmail is called, then in the sub done, after you see: print REPLY "**** No valid commands found.\n"; print REPLY "**** Commands must be in message BODY, not in HEADER.\n\n"; ...just kill the mailer process and exit: [ia@star3 ~/majordomo-1.94.4]$ diff majordomo.orig majordomo 159c159,161 < &sendmail(REPLY, $reply_to, "Majordomo results$sub_addin"); --- > # modification by Jeff Mann - we get the pid > # so we can kill it if no commands are found in the message (spam). > $reply_pid = &sendmail(REPLY, $reply_to, "Majordomo results$sub_addin"); 1808a1811,1814 > # modification by Jeff Mann - don't send the reply > # if no commands found, 99% chance it's spam. just exit. > kill 9, $reply_pid; > exit(0); Perhaps this could use some better error checking on the pid before the kill is sent? The second one is similar to the resend.7 and config_parse.pl-resend.1 patches. For non-member posts when restrict_post is set, there's no bounce sent to the administrator. In my version, a bounce is not sent to the sender either, since this just encourages more spam, and also most of these would get bounced back to the majordomo owner as above. But it's not configurable per list, so maybe someone wants to modify the above patches to add a "no response" option? Anyways, here's mine: [ia@star3 ~/majordomo-1.94.4]$ diff resend.original resend 896c896,900 < &send_bounce(BOUNCE, --- > # modified by Jeff Mann - added if statement to avoid notification > # to list owner of bounces most likely due to spam. Legitimate > # users will just have to learn to subscribe. > if($reason !~ /Non-member submission/) { > &send_bounce(BOUNCE, 901,903c905,909 < seek(IN, 0, 0); < while () { < print BOUNCE $_; --- > seek(IN, 0, 0); > while () { > print BOUNCE $_; > } > close(BOUNCE); 905d910 < close(BOUNCE); If someone wants to put these in the patch repository, go ahead. Or, if you see that I've done something stupid here, please tell me - I'm not really a perl programmer... Jeff From majordomo-users-owner@greatcircle.com Mon Jul 28 12:22:18 2003 Received: from wchqex01.capwin.org (unknown [65.222.176.6]) by mycroft.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 35FC31962CE for ; Mon, 28 Jul 2003 12:22:16 -0700 (PDT) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.0.6375.0 content-class: urn:content-classes:message Subject: Unable to report a specific reason MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Date: Mon, 28 Jul 2003 15:22:12 -0400 Message-ID: <16E4F48F81558E45963EB9498A81C2B9BEA5@wchqex01.capwin.org> X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: Unable to report a specific reason Thread-Index: AcNVPYvShT6jB1uYR56faBZ7qXiiZA== From: "Dave Fontaine" To: X-Archive-Number: 200307/131 X-Sequence-Number: 3561 Hello again, all. Now that my newsletter list is working, I have run mysteriously into another problem. The majordomo address will not receive email anymore. I suppose that it is not entirely a sendmail thing, seeing that the error message is getting forwarded to the bounce address I have in the aliases for majordomo. As I said, I am baffled because if I send mail to newsletter@listserv.mydomain.org it will get sent out to the distribution list, but no majordomo configuration, and no "help" or "lists" requests get processed. Below is a copy of the error message.=20 ************************************************************************ ** Your message did not reach some or all of the intended recipients. Subject: help Sent: 7/28/2003 2:42 PM The following recipient(s) could not be reached: Majordomo@listserv.mydomain.org on 7/28/2003 4:07 PM The e-mail system was unable to deliver the message, but did not report a specific reason. Check the address and try again. If it still fails, contact your system administrator. < listserv.mydomain.org #5.0.0 X-Unix; 255> ************************************************************************ ** Any Ideas? Thanks everyone. Dave From majordomo-users-owner@greatcircle.com Mon Jul 28 13:06:44 2003 Received: from totalhosting.totalhosting.org (order-secure.net [216.71.54.144]) by mycroft.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5FE77196E26 for ; Mon, 28 Jul 2003 13:06:43 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ASUSP3600 (ool-44c05b8e.dyn.optonline.net [68.192.91.142]) (authenticated (0 bits)) by totalhosting.totalhosting.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h6SK6gY02059 for ; Mon, 28 Jul 2003 16:06:42 -0400 From: "Advanced Technologies of NJ" To: "Great Circle" Subject: Subscription Confirmation Date: Mon, 28 Jul 2003 16:07:48 -0400 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.6604 (9.0.2911.0) X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Importance: Normal X-Archive-Number: 200307/132 X-Sequence-Number: 3562 I have been looking through the config file and through the GreatCircle site to find out how to make the "subscription confirmation" letter like GreatCircle has. Or one that the user only has to "reply" to, to be accepted. Can someone point me in the right direction? Thanks. --Mike From majordomo-users-owner@greatcircle.com Mon Jul 28 13:44:31 2003 Received: from cloud.ccsf.cc.ca.us (cloud.ccsf.cc.ca.us [147.144.1.212]) by mycroft.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B24D519705E for ; Mon, 28 Jul 2003 13:44:18 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (jjah@localhost) by cloud.ccsf.cc.ca.us (8.11.6/8.11.2) with ESMTP id h6SKiGq15535; Mon, 28 Jul 2003 13:44:16 -0700 (PDT) Date: Mon, 28 Jul 2003 13:44:16 -0700 (PDT) From: "Joe R. Jah" To: Advanced Technologies of NJ Cc: Great Circle Subject: Re: Subscription Confirmation In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Archive-Number: 200307/133 X-Sequence-Number: 3563 On Mon, 28 Jul 2003, Advanced Technologies of NJ wrote: > Date: Mon, 28 Jul 2003 16:07:48 -0400 > From: Advanced Technologies of NJ > To: Great Circle > Subject: Subscription Confirmation > > I have been looking through the config file and through the GreatCircle site > to find out how to make the "subscription confirmation" letter like > GreatCircle has. Or one that the user only has to "reply" to, to be > accepted. Can someone point me in the right direction? > > Thanks. > > --Mike If you run Majordomo 1.94.5 you can use this patch: ftp://ftp.ccsf.org/majordomo-patches/1.94.5/majordomo.5 Regards, Joe -- _/ _/_/_/ _/ ____________ __o _/ _/ _/ _/ ______________ _-\<,_ _/ _/ _/_/_/ _/ _/ ......(_)/ (_) _/_/ oe _/ _/. _/_/ ah jjah@cloud.ccsf.cc.ca.us From majordomo-users-owner@greatcircle.com Tue Jul 29 09:04:37 2003 Received: from sonny.org (24-116-58-25.cpe.cableone.net [24.116.58.25]) by mycroft.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D16D2196A83 for ; Tue, 29 Jul 2003 09:04:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: from sonny.org ([192.168.1.60]) by sonny.org (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id h6TG4R8W012059; Tue, 29 Jul 2003 11:04:27 -0500 Message-ID: <3F269B25.6040701@sonny.org> Date: Tue, 29 Jul 2003 11:04:53 -0500 From: Daniel Liston User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.4) Gecko/20030624 Netscape/7.1 (ax) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Majordomo-Users@greatcircle.com, =?windows-1251?Q?=22=C2=E8=EA=F2=EE?= =?windows-1251?Q?=F0_=C2=2E_=C5=F0=B8=EC=E5=ED=EA=EE=22?= Subject: Re: problem with permission References: <43868672.20030729112657@c0m.ru> <1516728154.20030729121436@c0m.ru> In-Reply-To: <1516728154.20030729121436@c0m.ru> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1251; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Archive-Number: 200307/134 X-Sequence-Number: 3564 This looks like sendmail is complaining about permissions on your lists directory being too relaxed. Виктор В. Ерёменко wrote: > Good day! > > I have a problem, when I trying to send an email to the list > > ----- Transcript of session follows ----- > 550 5.2.4 :include:/usr/local/majordomo/lists/int... Cannot open /usr/local/majordomo/lists/int: World writable > directory > > > Don't help: > 1. Sets for sendmail.cf > O DontBlameSendmail=groupwritabledirpathsafe > > > 2. Removing group permission in the list directory don't helps too. > > Sendmail was not complaining about "group" permissions, it was complaining about "world" permissions on the lists directory. chmod o-w /usr/local/majordomo/lists Dan Liston > > Thank you a lot > > Victor From majordomo-users-owner@greatcircle.com Tue Jul 29 09:07:44 2003 Received: from sonny.org (24-116-58-25.cpe.cableone.net [24.116.58.25]) by mycroft.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id DD1E7196DF5 for ; Tue, 29 Jul 2003 09:07:43 -0700 (PDT) Received: from sonny.org ([192.168.1.60]) by sonny.org (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id h6TG7d8W012075; Tue, 29 Jul 2003 11:07:39 -0500 Message-ID: <3F269BE6.60308@sonny.org> Date: Tue, 29 Jul 2003 11:08:06 -0500 From: Daniel Liston User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.4) Gecko/20030624 Netscape/7.1 (ax) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: =?windows-1251?Q?=22=C2=E8=EA=F2=EE=F0_=C2=2E_=C5=F0=B8=EC=E5=ED=EA?= =?windows-1251?Q?=EE=22?= Cc: majordomo-users@greatcircle.com Subject: Re: problem with permission References: <1869157217.20030729125505@c0m.ru> In-Reply-To: <1869157217.20030729125505@c0m.ru> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1251; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Archive-Number: 200307/135 X-Sequence-Number: 3565 I think you have your ownership backwards. Even better would be majordomo:majordomo 751. Dan Liston Виктор В. Ерёменко wrote: > Hi friends! > > Thank you all I've done this problem by setting permission to > majordomo directory owner- daemon:majordomo and modes- 750 > > Sincerely, > Victor From majordomo-users-owner@greatcircle.com Tue Jul 29 21:01:24 2003 Received: from cloud.ccsf.cc.ca.us (cloud.ccsf.cc.ca.us [147.144.1.212]) by mycroft.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 41B1C196D7F for ; Tue, 29 Jul 2003 21:01:22 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (jjah@localhost) by cloud.ccsf.cc.ca.us (8.11.6/8.11.2) with ESMTP id h6U41Gq10652 for ; Tue, 29 Jul 2003 21:01:16 -0700 (PDT) Date: Tue, 29 Jul 2003 21:01:16 -0700 (PDT) From: "Joe R. Jah" To: Majordomo-Users@GreatCircle.COM Subject: Bounce non-member submissions to [sender|owner|both|no_one] Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII Content-ID: X-Archive-Number: 200307/136 X-Sequence-Number: 3566 Hi Folks, In view of the proliferation of SPAM scum bags, I have added a fourth option to the non_member_bounce setting: ftp://ftp.ccsf.org/majordomo-patches/1.94.5/config_parse.pl-resend.2 The previous version is archived: ftp://ftp.ccsf.org/majordomo-patches/1.94.5/0ld/config_parse.pl-resend.1 You can download the patch, save it to some path on Majordomo server, change directory to Majordomo home, and run: patch < /path/to/config_parse.pl-resend.2 The patch applies to Majordomo 1.94.5 out-of-the-box. If you have applied the older patch, you need to reverse it with -R then apply the new patch as above: patch -R < /path/to/config_parse.pl-resend.1 If you have applied other patches to config_parse.pl or resend programs you may not be able to, or want to, reverse them all. The alternative is to use a decent editor like vi to edit in the new option: In resend find the following lines around 590: # We only get here if nothing matches. # $non_member_bounce = $config_opts{$opt_l,"non_member_bounce"}; &rts($reply_to||$from) if $non_member_bounce =~ /sender/i; " Non-member submission from [$from] "; Insert the exit(0) line: # We only get here if nothing matches. # $non_member_bounce = $config_opts{$opt_l,"non_member_bounce"}; exit(0) if $non_member_bounce =~ /no_one/i; &rts($reply_to||$from) if $non_member_bounce =~ /sender/i; " Non-member submission from [$from] "; In config_parse.pl find the following "single" line around 139: 'non_member_bounce', "\001sender\001sender-owner\001#!\$default_non_member_bounce ? \$default_non_member_bounce : ''", Edit in \001no_one: 'non_member_bounce', "\001sender\001sender-owner\001no_one\001#!\$default_non_member_bounce ? \$default_non_member_bounce : ''", Those two changes are sufficient to avail the new option to a Majordomo installation with config_parse.pl-resend.1 already installed; however, you may want to also edit in the new documentation snippet to your config_parse.pl. That simple process is left as your exercise;) After you apply the new patch you must run "writeconfig" on the lists that you wish to avail non_member_bounce, and/or its full documentation snippet by sending the following line in an email to your Majordomo server: writeconfig By default the attribute will be undefined: non_member_bounce = As the result the bounced message is only sent to the list owner; as if you haven't applied the patch. To have messages bounce to both the sender and the owner set it to: non_member_bounce = sender To have messages bounce only to the sender set it to: non_member_bounce = sender-owner To have messages bounce to no one set it to: non_member_bounce = no_one Regards, Joe -- _/ _/_/_/ _/ ____________ __o _/ _/ _/ _/ ______________ _-\<,_ _/ _/ _/_/_/ _/ _/ ......(_)/ (_) _/_/ oe _/ _/. _/_/ ah jjah@cloud.ccsf.cc.ca.us From majordomo-users-owner@greatcircle.com Wed Jul 30 08:52:13 2003 Received: from consultclarity.com (consultclarity.com [192.220.81.143]) by mycroft.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with SMTP id D29D8195FAE for ; Wed, 30 Jul 2003 08:52:10 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 86596 invoked by uid 20879); 30 Jul 2003 15:52:10 -0000 Date: 30 Jul 2003 15:52:10 -0000 Message-ID: <20030730155210.86595.qmail@consultclarity.com> From: Cyndi Norman To: majordomo-users@greatcircle.com Cc: cyndi@tikvah.com Subject: Trying to make MD work Reply-To: cyndi@tikvah.com X-Archive-Number: 200307/137 X-Sequence-Number: 3567 Hi all. I run several mailing lists which are hosted on a friend's UNIX server. He has MD installed but I'm super frustrated because nothing works. I can't manage to get lists to do posts from subscribers only, which means I have to do full moderation of lists just to avoid spam, which is stupid. And it means I can't go the next step and create lists of subscribers who can post directly vs ones who are moderated. And I'm having problems with the posting address forwarding. If the list is not moderated it creates a loop. He and I figured the first step was to determine if he had the latest and greatest version of MD and also MajorCool (which I hardly use cause it's so, well, useless). I also don't know if there were other components of MD he was supposed to install separately that never got put in. I don't know the current versions because his server appears to be down atm. I can't do the legwork because I don't have the skills or the time. He can't do much because he's doing this as a favor to me and to the lists (health support groups) and he needs to spend his time doing paid work. He asked me to find out "if there is web page or FAQ or some documentation that I ought to read." He knows about Great Circle. I was also wondering if there was someone here who might be willing to volunteer a couple of hours post-installation to help us tweak the software so it isn't running bare bones. We can't pay you (though I'd pay for any long distance phone calls) but I will gladly send you some soap. No really, that's not a booby prize...I have a home business making organic bath soap . I'm north of San Francisco and my friend's in LA. Thanks, Cyndi _____________________________________________________________________________ Cyndi Norman, Administrator for the Immune Lists cyndi@immuneweb.org -- admin mail personal mail -- cyndi@tikvah.com http://www.immuneweb.org/ http://www.tikvah.com/ Tikvah -- products for people with chemical sensitivites Get the Tikvah Newsletter -- go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/TikvahNews/ _____________________________________________________________________________ From majordomo-users-owner@greatcircle.com Wed Jul 30 09:20:05 2003 Received: from mz1.forethought.net (mzpi3.forethought.net [216.241.36.12]) by mycroft.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 51FA41970A1 for ; Wed, 30 Jul 2003 09:20:02 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mapworks.dimensional.com ([206.124.10.67] helo=[10.0.0.5]) by mz1.forethought.net with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 19htgH-0002mU-V4 for majordomo-users@greatcircle.com; Wed, 30 Jul 2003 10:20:02 -0600 User-Agent: Microsoft-Outlook-Express-Macintosh-Edition/5.0.6 Date: Wed, 30 Jul 2003 10:20:01 -0600 Subject: Non-member Bounces From: David Nelson To: Message-ID: Mime-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-Archive-Number: 200307/138 X-Sequence-Number: 3568 I have set non-member submissions to bounce to me as list owner. But recently, the number of non-member posts (essentially SPAM) has increased to the extent that I can no longer check each "Bounce" to see if it's from a legit member (using a different email address). At this point, I'd like not to receive any of the 100 plus Bounces I get each day. How can I keep the Bounces from being forwarded to me as owner? I would like them to simply be deleted. TIA, dn ~ ~ ~ David Nelson Mapping Services Denver, CO From majordomo-users-owner@greatcircle.com Wed Jul 30 09:36:37 2003 Received: from cmailm4.svr.pol.co.uk (cmailm4.svr.pol.co.uk [195.92.193.211]) by mycroft.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id AAA37196009 for ; Wed, 30 Jul 2003 09:36:35 -0700 (PDT) Received: from modem-3340.tiger.dialup.pol.co.uk ([62.136.221.12] helo=andybev.com) by cmailm4.svr.pol.co.uk with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 19htwG-0004a8-Pc; Wed, 30 Jul 2003 17:36:33 +0100 Message-ID: <3F27F415.3010307@andybev.com> Date: Wed, 30 Jul 2003 17:36:37 +0100 From: Andrew Beverley User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.4a) Gecko/20030401 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: David Nelson Cc: majordomo-users@greatcircle.com Subject: Re: Non-member Bounces References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Archive-Number: 200307/139 X-Sequence-Number: 3569 Try this patch: ftp://ftp.ccsf.org/majordomo-patches/1.94.5/config_parse.pl-resend.2 You can download the patch, save it to some path on Majordomo server, change directory to Majordomo home, and run: patch < /path/to/config_parse.pl-resend.2 David Nelson wrote: > I have set non-member submissions to bounce to me as list owner. > > But recently, the number of non-member posts (essentially SPAM) has > increased to the extent that I can no longer check each "Bounce" to see if > it's from a legit member (using a different email address). > > At this point, I'd like not to receive any of the 100 plus Bounces I get > each day. How can I keep the Bounces from being forwarded to me as owner? I > would like them to simply be deleted. > > TIA, > > dn > ~ ~ ~ > David Nelson > Mapping Services > Denver, CO > > From majordomo-users-owner@greatcircle.com Wed Jul 30 10:01:52 2003 Received: from sonny.org (24-116-58-25.cpe.cableone.net [24.116.58.25]) by mycroft.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 285E3196A1D for ; Wed, 30 Jul 2003 10:01:51 -0700 (PDT) Received: from sonny.org ([192.168.1.60]) by sonny.org (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id h6UH1nLu006796; Wed, 30 Jul 2003 12:01:49 -0500 Message-ID: <3F27FA1A.2060001@sonny.org> Date: Wed, 30 Jul 2003 12:02:18 -0500 From: Daniel Liston User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.4) Gecko/20030624 Netscape/7.1 (ax) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: David Nelson Cc: majordomo-users@greatcircle.com Subject: Re: Non-member Bounces References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Archive-Number: 200307/140 X-Sequence-Number: 3570 You have *PERFECT* timing on this one! Joe just posted an updated patch to the non_member_bouce 12 hours before your request. That man must be psychic! :) ftp://ftp.ccsf.org/majordomo-patches/1.94.5/config_parse.pl-resend.2 Dan Liston David Nelson wrote: > I have set non-member submissions to bounce to me as list owner. > > But recently, the number of non-member posts (essentially SPAM) has > increased to the extent that I can no longer check each "Bounce" to see if > it's from a legit member (using a different email address). > > At this point, I'd like not to receive any of the 100 plus Bounces I get > each day. How can I keep the Bounces from being forwarded to me as owner? I > would like them to simply be deleted. > > TIA, > > dn > ~ ~ ~ > David Nelson > Mapping Services > Denver, CO From majordomo-users-owner@greatcircle.com Wed Jul 30 10:12:59 2003 Received: from wrenkasky.com (esson.net [216.102.129.43]) by mycroft.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4BA5019725C for ; Wed, 30 Jul 2003 10:12:58 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ekasky.wrenkasky.com (ekasky.priority.usc.edu [128.125.63.168]) by wrenkasky.com (8.12.9/8.12.9) with ESMTP id h6UHD02F001686 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NOT); Wed, 30 Jul 2003 10:13:00 -0700 Message-Id: <5.1.1.6.2.20030730101111.00ac59e0@mail.esson.net> X-Sender: ed@mail.esson.net (Unverified) X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1.1 Date: Wed, 30 Jul 2003 10:12:56 -0700 To: David Nelson , From: Ed Kasky Subject: Re: Non-member Bounces In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed X-Archive-Number: 200307/141 X-Sequence-Number: 3571 Joe posted a perfect solution to this yesterday. Did you see that post? With the patch he posted you can set non-member submission to no_one - and it works!!! Ed At 10:20 AM Wednesday, 7/30/2003, David Nelson wrote -=> >I have set non-member submissions to bounce to me as list owner. > >But recently, the number of non-member posts (essentially SPAM) has >increased to the extent that I can no longer check each "Bounce" to see if >it's from a legit member (using a different email address). > >At this point, I'd like not to receive any of the 100 plus Bounces I get >each day. How can I keep the Bounces from being forwarded to me as owner? I >would like them to simply be deleted. Ed Kasky Los Angeles, CA . . . . . . . . Do you always want to be right, or do you want to be happy? -H. Jackson Browne [P.S. I Love You] From majordomo-users-owner@greatcircle.com Wed Jul 30 12:09:41 2003 Received: from mz2.forethought.net (mzpi4.forethought.net [216.241.36.13]) by mycroft.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id CBBD1196E39 for ; Wed, 30 Jul 2003 12:09:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mapworks.dimensional.com ([206.124.10.67] helo=[10.0.0.5]) by mz2.forethought.net with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 19hwKP-0007Jg-HP; Wed, 30 Jul 2003 13:09:37 -0600 User-Agent: Microsoft-Outlook-Express-Macintosh-Edition/5.0.6 Date: Wed, 30 Jul 2003 13:09:36 -0600 Subject: Re: Non-member Bounces From: David Nelson To: Ed Kasky , Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <5.1.1.6.2.20030730101111.00ac59e0@mail.esson.net> Mime-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-Archive-Number: 200307/142 X-Sequence-Number: 3572 I've been waiting several months to post my query (just joined the list today) and it seems that I waited just long enough. We are trying the patch and I will report back the results. Thanks to all for your help, d ~ ~ ~ David Nelson Mapping Services Denver, CO > From: Ed Kasky > Date: Wed, 30 Jul 2003 10:12:56 -0700 > To: David Nelson , > Subject: Re: Non-member Bounces > > Joe posted a perfect solution to this yesterday. Did you see that post? > > With the patch he posted you can set non-member submission to no_one - and > it works!!! > > Ed > > At 10:20 AM Wednesday, 7/30/2003, David Nelson wrote -=> >> I have set non-member submissions to bounce to me as list owner. >> >> But recently, the number of non-member posts (essentially SPAM) has >> increased to the extent that I can no longer check each "Bounce" to see if >> it's from a legit member (using a different email address). >> >> At this point, I'd like not to receive any of the 100 plus Bounces I get >> each day. How can I keep the Bounces from being forwarded to me as owner? I >> would like them to simply be deleted. > > > > Ed Kasky > Los Angeles, CA > . . . . . . . . > Do you always want to be right, or do you want to be happy? > -H. Jackson Browne [P.S. I Love You] > From majordomo-users-owner@greatcircle.com Wed Jul 30 12:44:30 2003 Received: from franklin-belle.com (adsl-65-68-247-73.dsl.crchtx.swbell.net [65.68.247.73]) by mycroft.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 769AF197534 for ; Wed, 30 Jul 2003 12:44:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: from sagea (sagea.sage-american [10.0.0.3]) by franklin-belle.com (8.12.8p1/8.12.8) with SMTP id h6UJiJ4l099502; Wed, 30 Jul 2003 14:44:19 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from jacks@sage-american.com) Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.20030730144418.01412478@sage-american.com> X-Sender: jacks@sage-american.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.5 (32) Date: Wed, 30 Jul 2003 14:44:18 -0500 To: "Joe R. Jah" , Advanced Technologies of NJ From: "Jack L. Stone" Subject: Re: Subscription Confirmation Cc: Great Circle In-Reply-To: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-1.4 required=4.5 tests=AWL,IN_REP_TO,QUOTED_EMAIL_TEXT,REFERENCES, REPLY_WITH_QUOTES version=2.55-fbelle.rules_v1 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55-fbelle.rules_v1 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) X-Archive-Number: 200307/143 X-Sequence-Number: 3573 >> I have been looking through the config file and through the GreatCircle site >> to find out how to make the "subscription confirmation" letter like >> GreatCircle has. Or one that the user only has to "reply" to, to be >> accepted. Can someone point me in the right direction? >> >> Thanks. >> >> --Mike > >If you run Majordomo 1.94.5 you can use this patch: > > ftp://ftp.ccsf.org/majordomo-patches/1.94.5/majordomo.5 > >Regards, > >Joe I have downloaded Joe's patch above an have one question about this line that needs to be added in the "aliases.majordomo". confirm: "|/usr/local/majordomo/wrapper majordomo -a" I have a vhost setup for my lists and was wondering if the line needs to be place once at the top of the alias file as a "variable" or does it need to be in each vhost list sections.....??? Appreciate help from any who have used the patch.... Best regards, Jack L. Stone, Administrator Sage American http://www.sage-american.com jacks@sage-american.com From majordomo-users-owner@greatcircle.com Wed Jul 30 13:11:57 2003 Received: from cloud.ccsf.cc.ca.us (cloud.ccsf.cc.ca.us [147.144.1.212]) by mycroft.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6B285196EE8 for ; Wed, 30 Jul 2003 13:11:55 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (jjah@localhost) by cloud.ccsf.cc.ca.us (8.11.6/8.11.2) with ESMTP id h6UK9gx27650; Wed, 30 Jul 2003 13:09:42 -0700 (PDT) Date: Wed, 30 Jul 2003 13:09:42 -0700 (PDT) From: "Joe R. Jah" To: "Jack L. Stone" Cc: Advanced Technologies of NJ , Great Circle Subject: Re: Subscription Confirmation In-Reply-To: <3.0.5.32.20030730144418.01412478@sage-american.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Archive-Number: 200307/144 X-Sequence-Number: 3574 On Wed, 30 Jul 2003, Jack L. Stone wrote: > Date: Wed, 30 Jul 2003 14:44:18 -0500 > From: Jack L. Stone > To: Joe R. Jah , Advanced Technologies of NJ > Cc: Great Circle > Subject: Re: Subscription Confirmation > > >> I have been looking through the config file and through the GreatCircle > site > >> to find out how to make the "subscription confirmation" letter like > >> GreatCircle has. Or one that the user only has to "reply" to, to be > >> accepted. Can someone point me in the right direction? > >> > >> Thanks. > >> > >> --Mike > > > >If you run Majordomo 1.94.5 you can use this patch: > > > > ftp://ftp.ccsf.org/majordomo-patches/1.94.5/majordomo.5 > > > >Regards, > > > >Joe > > I have downloaded Joe's patch above an have one question about this line > that needs to be added in the "aliases.majordomo". > confirm: "|/usr/local/majordomo/wrapper majordomo -a" > > I have a vhost setup for my lists and was wondering if the line needs to be > place once at the top of the alias file as a "variable" or does it need to > be in each vhost list sections.....??? > > Appreciate help from any who have used the patch.... Anywhere you have a line like: majordomo: "|/usr/local/majordomo/wrapper majordomo" You should pair it with: confirm: "|/usr/local/majordomo/wrapper majordomo -a" Regards, Joe -- _/ _/_/_/ _/ ____________ __o _/ _/ _/ _/ ______________ _-\<,_ _/ _/ _/_/_/ _/ _/ ......(_)/ (_) _/_/ oe _/ _/. _/_/ ah jjah@cloud.ccsf.cc.ca.us From majordomo-users-owner@greatcircle.com Wed Jul 30 13:42:55 2003 Received: from franklin-belle.com (adsl-65-68-247-73.dsl.crchtx.swbell.net [65.68.247.73]) by mycroft.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 423BB1973C3 for ; Wed, 30 Jul 2003 13:42:53 -0700 (PDT) Received: from sagea (sagea.sage-american [10.0.0.3]) by franklin-belle.com (8.12.8p1/8.12.8) with SMTP id h6UKgm4l000221; Wed, 30 Jul 2003 15:42:48 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from jacks@sage-american.com) Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.20030730154247.0140e828@sage-american.com> X-Sender: jacks@sage-american.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.5 (32) Date: Wed, 30 Jul 2003 15:42:47 -0500 To: "Joe R. Jah" From: "Jack L. Stone" Subject: Re: Subscription Confirmation Cc: Advanced Technologies of NJ , Great Circle In-Reply-To: References: <3.0.5.32.20030730144418.01412478@sage-american.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-1.7 required=4.5 tests=AWL,EMAIL_ATTRIBUTION,IN_REP_TO,QUOTED_EMAIL_TEXT, REFERENCES,REPLY_WITH_QUOTES autolearn=ham version=2.55-fbelle.rules_v1 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55-fbelle.rules_v1 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) X-Archive-Number: 200307/145 X-Sequence-Number: 3575 At 01:09 PM 7.30.2003 -0700, Joe R. Jah wrote: >On Wed, 30 Jul 2003, Jack L. Stone wrote: > >> Date: Wed, 30 Jul 2003 14:44:18 -0500 >> From: Jack L. Stone >> To: Joe R. Jah , > Advanced Technologies of NJ >> Cc: Great Circle >> Subject: Re: Subscription Confirmation >> >> >> I have been looking through the config file and through the GreatCircle >> site >> >> to find out how to make the "subscription confirmation" letter like >> >> GreatCircle has. Or one that the user only has to "reply" to, to be >> >> accepted. Can someone point me in the right direction? >> >> >> >> Thanks. >> >> >> >> --Mike >> > >> >If you run Majordomo 1.94.5 you can use this patch: >> > >> > ftp://ftp.ccsf.org/majordomo-patches/1.94.5/majordomo.5 >> > >> >Regards, >> > >> >Joe >> >> I have downloaded Joe's patch above an have one question about this line >> that needs to be added in the "aliases.majordomo". >> confirm: "|/usr/local/majordomo/wrapper majordomo -a" >> >> I have a vhost setup for my lists and was wondering if the line needs to be >> place once at the top of the alias file as a "variable" or does it need to >> be in each vhost list sections.....??? >> >> Appreciate help from any who have used the patch.... > >Anywhere you have a line like: > > majordomo: "|/usr/local/majordomo/wrapper majordomo" > >You should pair it with: > > confirm: "|/usr/local/majordomo/wrapper majordomo -a" > >Regards, > >Joe >-- Hi, Joe. I first placed it only at the top of the aliases file: majordomo: "|/usr/local/majordomo/wrapper majordomo" majordomo-owner: Postmaster owner-majordomo: majordomo-owner majordom: majordomo-owner confirm: "|/usr/local/majordomo/wrapper majordomo -a" But, then I began to wonder about the Vhosts sections as follows: # Franklin-Belle Lists Header franklin-belle.com-majordomo: "|/usr/local/majordomo/wrapper majordomo -C /usr/local/majordomo/franklin-belle.com/majordomo.cf" owner-franklin-belle.com-majordomo: owner-majordomo franklin-belle.com-majordomo-owner: majordomo-owner ....followed by the individual lists: #fblist created on 2002/04/01 at 15:29:47 for webmaster@franklin-belle.com franklin-belle.com-fblist: "|/usr/local/bin/demime '|/usr/local/majordomo/wrapper resend -C /usr/local/majordomo/franklin-belle.com/majordomo.cf -l fblist -h franklin-belle.com franklin-belle.com-fblist-outgoing,nobody'" owner-franklin-belle.com-fblist: webmaster@franklin-belle.com, franklin-belle.com-fblist-owner: owner-franklin-belle.com-fblist Best regards, Jack L. Stone, Administrator Sage American http://www.sage-american.com jacks@sage-american.com From majordomo-users-owner@greatcircle.com Wed Jul 30 19:20:25 2003 Received: from smtp807.mail.sc5.yahoo.com (smtp807.mail.sc5.yahoo.com [66.163.168.186]) by mycroft.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with SMTP id AFC301960D5 for ; Wed, 30 Jul 2003 19:20:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: from adsl-66-141-43-247.dsl.austtx.swbell.net (HELO sbc.swbell.net) (nategrey@swbell.net@66.141.43.247 with login) by smtp-sbc-v1.mail.vip.sc5.yahoo.com with SMTP; 31 Jul 2003 02:20:24 -0000 Message-Id: <5.2.0.9.2.20030730211116.04251580@pop.swbell.yahoo.com> X-Sender: nategrey@swbell.net@pop.swbell.yahoo.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.0.9 Date: Wed, 30 Jul 2003 21:18:28 -0500 To: Majordomo-Users@GreatCircle.COM From: Donald Palmer Subject: majordomo@hostname bounces all requests Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed X-Archive-Number: 200307/146 X-Sequence-Number: 3576 Greetings! I'm running Majordomo 1.94.5 (with perl 5.8.0 and Sendmail Sendmail 8.12.5) on Redhat 7.3 (2.4.18-14smp). All mail to majordomo@hostname is bounced. The wrapper test (./wrapper config-test) finds no problems. The only error is as follows: Delivery to the following recipients failed. Majordomo@hostname.org Any ideas on how to fix this? Thank you for your attention. Donald Palmer nategrey@swbell.net From majordomo-users-owner@greatcircle.com Wed Jul 30 19:58:36 2003 Received: from franklin-belle.com (adsl-65-68-247-73.dsl.crchtx.swbell.net [65.68.247.73]) by mycroft.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E38AC19659B for ; Wed, 30 Jul 2003 19:58:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: from sagea (sagea.sage-american [10.0.0.3]) by franklin-belle.com (8.12.8p1/8.12.8) with SMTP id h6V2wW4l003235 for ; Wed, 30 Jul 2003 21:58:33 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from jacks@sage-american.com) Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.20030730215830.0140f3c8@sage-american.com> X-Sender: jacks@sage-american.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.5 (32) Date: Wed, 30 Jul 2003 21:58:30 -0500 To: majordomo-users@greatcircle.com From: "Jack L. Stone" Subject: Subscription Confirm < PATCH Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-0.5 required=4.5 tests=AWL version=2.55-fbelle.rules_v1 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55-fbelle.rules_v1 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) X-Archive-Number: 200307/147 X-Sequence-Number: 3577 Hi Dan: We worked together on your MJ list setup scripts. I noticed the thread about the patch that will change the subscription confirmation. I believe it was developed by Joe R. Jah. This was just what I needed to eliminate those who can't deal with the present method of open+confirm requiring the long command line that wraps. I finally go the patch tweaked so that majordomo is working again on franklin-belle.com. Alas, it puts the confirm.keys in the right place, but cannot find the right place on confirming. This iw why: MAJORDOMO ABORT (mj_majordomo)!! Couldn't read key file /usr/local/majordomo/lists/confirm.keys: No such file or directory /usr/local/majordomo/lists/confirm.keys ...really at: /usr/local/majordomo/franklin-belle.com/lists/confirm.keys You may recognize the above setup for vhosts as being from your script. Obviously, the patch doesn't fix things 100%. I can get it to confirm if I move the keys file to the place it wants, but then the confirmation shows an error that it is subscribed to an unknown list. I was wondering if you had tried the patch using the same setup as I have and what did you do to tweak it..?? ...an entry in virtusertable...?? and where did you put this line in aliases: confirm: "|/usr/local/majordomo/wrapper majordomo -a" I put it at the top, then within the vhost list section... nada...!! Thanks for any assist... BTW, I asked Joe about this, but I don't think he knows how your script handles vhost lists, which I believe is the problem here. Best regards, Jack L. Stone, Administrator Sage American http://www.sage-american.com jacks@sage-american.com From majordomo-users-owner@greatcircle.com Wed Jul 30 20:33:14 2003 Received: from gregorynet.gregorynet.net (unknown [66.70.158.12]) by mycroft.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9CA8C1962D8 for ; Wed, 30 Jul 2003 20:33:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: from Host (pcp537929pcs.nash01.tn.comcast.net [68.53.119.71]) (authenticated (0 bits)) by gregorynet.gregorynet.net (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h6V3hgd22080 for ; Wed, 30 Jul 2003 22:43:43 -0500 From: "Ed Gregory" To: Subject: Approving a message Date: Wed, 30 Jul 2003 22:33:59 -0700 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.6604 (9.0.2911.0) X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <3.0.5.32.20030730215830.0140f3c8@sage-american.com> X-Archive-Number: 200307/148 X-Sequence-Number: 3578 I've been running in circles, talking to my tech support and trying to reach and understand the docs. I've had several lists that function as expected when run as unmoderated. As soon as I set moderate to yes, things get screwy. The list owner (me) gets the Bounce saying Approval Required. However, I can find nothing that tells me how to actually approve the release of that message. The result is that I have to strip out all the header garbage and send the remaining bits of text from the list owner's address. Is this a bug or a feature? Any help appreciated. I can't afford $500 for Lyris. -Ed Gregory www.gregorynet.net > -----Original Message----- > From: majordomo-users-owner@greatcircle.com > [mailto:majordomo-users-owner@greatcircle.com]On Behalf Of Jack L. Stone > Sent: Wednesday, July 30, 2003 7:58 PM > To: majordomo-users@greatcircle.com > Subject: Subscription Confirm < PATCH > > > Hi Dan: We worked together on your MJ list setup scripts. > > I noticed the thread about the patch that will change the subscription > confirmation. I believe it was developed by Joe R. Jah. This was just what > I needed to eliminate those who can't deal with the present method of > open+confirm requiring the long command line that wraps. > > I finally go the patch tweaked so that majordomo is working again on > franklin-belle.com. Alas, it puts the confirm.keys in the right place, but > cannot find the right place on confirming. This iw why: > > MAJORDOMO ABORT (mj_majordomo)!! > Couldn't read key file /usr/local/majordomo/lists/confirm.keys: No such > file or directory > /usr/local/majordomo/lists/confirm.keys > ...really at: > /usr/local/majordomo/franklin-belle.com/lists/confirm.keys > > You may recognize the above setup for vhosts as being from your script. > Obviously, the patch doesn't fix things 100%. > > I can get it to confirm if I move the keys file to the place it wants, but > then the confirmation shows an error that it is subscribed to an > unknown list. > > I was wondering if you had tried the patch using the same setup as I have > and what did you do to tweak it..?? ...an entry in virtusertable...?? and > where did you put this line in aliases: > confirm: "|/usr/local/majordomo/wrapper majordomo -a" > > I put it at the top, then within the vhost list section... nada...!! > > Thanks for any assist... > > BTW, I asked Joe about this, but I don't think he knows how your script > handles vhost lists, which I believe is the problem here. > > Best regards, > Jack L. Stone, > Administrator > > Sage American > http://www.sage-american.com > jacks@sage-american.com > From majordomo-users-owner@greatcircle.com Wed Jul 30 21:21:34 2003 Received: from gregorynet.gregorynet.net (unknown [66.70.158.12]) by mycroft.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 689A21964E6 for ; Wed, 30 Jul 2003 21:21:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: from Host (pcp537929pcs.nash01.tn.comcast.net [68.53.119.71]) (authenticated (0 bits)) by gregorynet.gregorynet.net (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h6V4W2d28756 for ; Wed, 30 Jul 2003 23:32:02 -0500 From: "Ed Gregory" To: Subject: Re: Approving a message (solved) Date: Wed, 30 Jul 2003 23:22:17 -0700 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.6604 (9.0.2911.0) X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: X-Archive-Number: 200307/149 X-Sequence-Number: 3579 My host didn't have the FAQs available. I found them on greatcircle.com and eventually found the Approved:approval-password instruction. Still have to clean up the message. Lyris's Web GUI (via another list on another server) lets me read and click once to release. So, can somebody recommend an easy-to-install Web GUI for majordomo? Thanks. > -----Original Message----- > From: majordomo-users-owner@greatcircle.com > [mailto:majordomo-users-owner@greatcircle.com]On Behalf Of Ed Gregory > Sent: Wednesday, July 30, 2003 10:34 PM > To: majordomo-users@greatcircle.com > Subject: Approving a message > > > I've been running in circles, talking to my tech support and > trying to reach > and understand the docs. > > I've had several lists that function as expected when run as > unmoderated. As > soon as I set moderate to yes, things get screwy. > > The list owner (me) gets the Bounce saying Approval Required. > However, I can > find nothing that tells me how to actually approve the release of that > message. > > The result is that I have to strip out all the header garbage and send the > remaining bits of text from the list owner's address. > > Is this a bug or a feature? > > Any help appreciated. I can't afford $500 for Lyris. > > -Ed Gregory > www.gregorynet.net > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: majordomo-users-owner@greatcircle.com > > [mailto:majordomo-users-owner@greatcircle.com]On Behalf Of Jack L. Stone > > Sent: Wednesday, July 30, 2003 7:58 PM > > To: majordomo-users@greatcircle.com > > Subject: Subscription Confirm < PATCH > > > > > > Hi Dan: We worked together on your MJ list setup scripts. > > > > I noticed the thread about the patch that will change the subscription > > confirmation. I believe it was developed by Joe R. Jah. This > was just what > > I needed to eliminate those who can't deal with the present method of > > open+confirm requiring the long command line that wraps. > > > > I finally go the patch tweaked so that majordomo is working again on > > franklin-belle.com. Alas, it puts the confirm.keys in the right > place, but > > cannot find the right place on confirming. This iw why: > > > > MAJORDOMO ABORT (mj_majordomo)!! > > Couldn't read key file /usr/local/majordomo/lists/confirm.keys: No such > > file or directory > > /usr/local/majordomo/lists/confirm.keys > > ...really at: > > /usr/local/majordomo/franklin-belle.com/lists/confirm.keys > > > > You may recognize the above setup for vhosts as being from your script. > > Obviously, the patch doesn't fix things 100%. > > > > I can get it to confirm if I move the keys file to the place it > wants, but > > then the confirmation shows an error that it is subscribed to an > > unknown list. > > > > I was wondering if you had tried the patch using the same setup > as I have > > and what did you do to tweak it..?? ...an entry in > virtusertable...?? and > > where did you put this line in aliases: > > confirm: "|/usr/local/majordomo/wrapper majordomo -a" > > > > I put it at the top, then within the vhost list section... nada...!! > > > > Thanks for any assist... > > > > BTW, I asked Joe about this, but I don't think he knows how your script > > handles vhost lists, which I believe is the problem here. > > > > Best regards, > > Jack L. Stone, > > Administrator > > > > Sage American > > http://www.sage-american.com > > jacks@sage-american.com > > > From majordomo-users-owner@greatcircle.com Wed Jul 30 21:32:10 2003 Received: from sonny.org (24-116-58-25.cpe.cableone.net [24.116.58.25]) by mycroft.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 660D4196891 for ; Wed, 30 Jul 2003 21:31:58 -0700 (PDT) Received: from sonny.org ([192.168.1.60]) by sonny.org (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id h6V4W0Lu013617; Wed, 30 Jul 2003 23:32:00 -0500 Message-ID: <3F289BD1.1020009@sonny.org> Date: Wed, 30 Jul 2003 23:32:17 -0500 From: Daniel Liston User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.4) Gecko/20030624 Netscape/7.1 (ax) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "Jack L. Stone" Cc: majordomo-users@greatcircle.com Subject: Re: Subscription Confirm < PATCH References: <3.0.5.32.20030730215830.0140f3c8@sage-american.com> In-Reply-To: <3.0.5.32.20030730215830.0140f3c8@sage-american.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Archive-Number: 200307/150 X-Sequence-Number: 3580 Hello Jack, To pair up the confirm alias with a majordomo alias "per domain" as suggested by Joe, you would need virtusertable and majordomo.aliases entries. Something like this; virtusertable: majordomo@sonny.com sonny.com-majordomo majordomo@sonny.org sonny.org-majordomo majordomo@liston.nu liston.nu-majordomo confirm@sonny.com sonny.com-confirm confirm@sonny.org sonny.org-confirm confirm@liston.nu liston.nu-confirm majordomo.aliases: sonny.com-majordomo: "|/usr/lib/majordomo/wrapper majordomo -C /var/lib/majordomo/sonny.com/majordomo.cf" sonny.org-majordomo: "|/usr/lib/majordomo/wrapper majordomo -C /var/lib/majordomo/sonny.org/majordomo.cf" liston.nu-majordomo: "|/usr/lib/majordomo/wrapper majordomo -C /var/lib/majordomo/liston.nu/majordomo.cf" sonny.com-confirm: "|/usr/lib/majordomo/wrapper majordomo -C /var/lib/majordomo/sonny.com/majordomo.cf -a" sonny.org-confirm: "|/usr/lib/majordomo/wrapper majordomo -C /var/lib/majordomo/sonny.org/majordomo.cf -a" liston.nu-confirm: "|/usr/lib/majordomo/wrapper majordomo -C /var/lib/majordomo/liston.nu/majordomo.cf -a" Dan Liston Jack L. Stone wrote: > Hi Dan: We worked together on your MJ list setup scripts. > > I noticed the thread about the patch that will change the subscription > confirmation. I believe it was developed by Joe R. Jah. This was just what > I needed to eliminate those who can't deal with the present method of > open+confirm requiring the long command line that wraps. > > I finally go the patch tweaked so that majordomo is working again on > franklin-belle.com. Alas, it puts the confirm.keys in the right place, but > cannot find the right place on confirming. This iw why: > > MAJORDOMO ABORT (mj_majordomo)!! > Couldn't read key file /usr/local/majordomo/lists/confirm.keys: No such > file or directory > /usr/local/majordomo/lists/confirm.keys > ...really at: > /usr/local/majordomo/franklin-belle.com/lists/confirm.keys > > You may recognize the above setup for vhosts as being from your script. > Obviously, the patch doesn't fix things 100%. > > I can get it to confirm if I move the keys file to the place it wants, but > then the confirmation shows an error that it is subscribed to an unknown list. > > I was wondering if you had tried the patch using the same setup as I have > and what did you do to tweak it..?? ...an entry in virtusertable...?? and > where did you put this line in aliases: > confirm: "|/usr/local/majordomo/wrapper majordomo -a" > > I put it at the top, then within the vhost list section... nada...!! > > Thanks for any assist... > > BTW, I asked Joe about this, but I don't think he knows how your script > handles vhost lists, which I believe is the problem here. > > Best regards, > Jack L. Stone, > Administrator > > Sage American > http://www.sage-american.com > jacks@sage-american.com From majordomo-users-owner@greatcircle.com Wed Jul 30 21:41:05 2003 Received: from avocet.mail.pas.earthlink.net (avocet.mail.pas.earthlink.net [207.217.120.50]) by mycroft.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 04D6E196300; Wed, 30 Jul 2003 21:41:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: from h-69-3-76-146.phndaz91.covad.net ([69.3.76.146] helo=Vaio.earthlink.net) by avocet.mail.pas.earthlink.net with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #1) id 19i5FO-0001t5-00; Wed, 30 Jul 2003 21:41:02 -0700 Message-Id: <5.2.0.9.2.20030730213916.020678b8@pop.earthlink.net> X-Sender: bobbish@pop.earthlink.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.0.9 Date: Wed, 30 Jul 2003 21:40:49 -0700 To: majordomo-users@greatcircle.com, list-managers@greatcircle.com From: Bob Bish Subject: E-mail scams Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed X-Archive-Number: 200307/151 X-Sequence-Number: 3581 Is it proper to report e-mail scams here? There have been a rash of them lately and I, for one, like to inform my list members so they don't get ripped off or have their credit card information stolen. ...Bob From majordomo-users-owner@greatcircle.com Wed Jul 30 21:55:21 2003 Received: from planet.fef.com (unknown [157.22.35.7]) by mycroft.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 93E37196E18 for ; Wed, 30 Jul 2003 21:55:19 -0700 (PDT) Received: from planet.fef.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by planet.fef.com (8.12.9/8.12.9/check_local-5) with ESMTP id h6V4tEbq031950; Wed, 30 Jul 2003 21:55:14 -0700 Received: (from alvin@localhost) by planet.fef.com (8.12.9/8.12.4/Submit) id h6V4tEYi031949; Wed, 30 Jul 2003 21:55:14 -0700 From: Alvin Oga Message-Id: <200307310455.h6V4tEYi031949@planet.fef.com> Subject: Re: E-mail scams To: bobbish@earthlink.net (Bob Bish) Date: Wed, 30 Jul 2003 21:55:14 -0700 (PDT) Cc: majordomo-users@greatcircle.com In-Reply-To: <5.2.0.9.2.20030730213916.020678b8@pop.earthlink.net> from "Bob Bish" at Jul 30, 2003 09:40:49 PM X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.5 PL1] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Archive-Number: 200307/152 X-Sequence-Number: 3582 hi ya bob nope... not the place here to report spams... send it to the right place depending on what its about http://www.Linux-Sec.net/Mail/Laws - the fbi and cia and ftc is currently actively pursuing the nigerian scam ( 419 ) so send all the "deceased milliaonaire in nigeria, iraq, turkey" to uce@ftc.gov and 419.fcd@usss.treas.gov c ya alvin > Bob Bish wrote: > > Is it proper to report e-mail scams here? There have been a rash of > them lately and I, for one, like to inform my list members so they don't > get ripped off or have their credit card information stolen. > > ...Bob > From majordomo-users-owner@greatcircle.com Wed Jul 30 22:08:32 2003 Received: from fed1mtao06.cox.net (fed1mtao06.cox.net [68.6.19.125]) by mycroft.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id AE9E7196F78 for ; Wed, 30 Jul 2003 22:08:30 -0700 (PDT) Received: from FUGU ([68.101.113.95]) by fed1mtao06.cox.net (InterMail vM.5.01.04.05 201-253-122-122-105-20011231) with SMTP id <20030731050821.JPKC6930.fed1mtao06.cox.net@FUGU> for ; Thu, 31 Jul 2003 01:08:21 -0400 From: "Manny Tau" To: "Majordomo-Users Listserve" Subject: MajorCool on 550 Date: Wed, 30 Jul 2003 22:08:39 -0700 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Importance: Normal X-Archive-Number: 200307/153 X-Sequence-Number: 3583 Anyone here ever get MajorCool working on a RaQ 550 webserver? Manny From majordomo-users-owner@greatcircle.com Wed Jul 30 22:16:27 2003 Received: from gull.mail.pas.earthlink.net (gull.mail.pas.earthlink.net [207.217.120.84]) by mycroft.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4D281196255; Wed, 30 Jul 2003 22:16:23 -0700 (PDT) Received: from h-69-3-76-146.phndaz91.covad.net ([69.3.76.146] helo=Vaio.earthlink.net) by gull.mail.pas.earthlink.net with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #1) id 19i5nT-0004eS-00; Wed, 30 Jul 2003 22:16:15 -0700 Message-Id: <5.2.0.9.2.20030730221446.02047bc8@pop.earthlink.net> X-Sender: bobbish@pop.earthlink.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.0.9 Date: Wed, 30 Jul 2003 22:16:13 -0700 To: majordomo-users@greatcircle.com, list-managers@greatcircle.com From: Bob Bish Subject: E-mail scams Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed X-Archive-Number: 200307/154 X-Sequence-Number: 3584 Some are misunderstanding my question. I'm talking about sCams, scams. NOT spam. Like those which mimic Ebay or PayPal to get people to enter their credit card information in order to steal it. New ones are popping up all the time these days. ...Bob From majordomo-users-owner@greatcircle.com Wed Jul 30 22:57:23 2003 Received: from penguin.postmodern.com (server.postmodern.com [216.240.39.3]) by mycroft.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7B6AD195A74; Wed, 30 Jul 2003 22:57:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: from postmodern.com (sfo.postmodern.com [216.240.39.8]) by penguin.postmodern.com (8.12.8/mcb-20021115-1) with ESMTP id h6V5w7fZ025329; Wed, 30 Jul 2003 22:58:07 -0700 Date: Wed, 30 Jul 2003 22:57:15 -0700 Subject: Re: E-mail scams Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v552) Cc: majordomo-users@greatcircle.com, list-managers@greatcircle.com To: Bob Bish From: "Michael C. Berch" In-Reply-To: <5.2.0.9.2.20030730213916.020678b8@pop.earthlink.net> Message-Id: Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.552) X-Archive-Number: 200307/155 X-Sequence-Number: 3585 On Wednesday, July 30, 2003, at 09:40 PM, Bob Bish wrote: > Is it proper to report e-mail scams here? No, not really. There are a lot of other forums for that sort of thing. If you are troubled with them on your lists, that's one thing, and might be a good thing to review the anti-spam capabilities of Majordomo (or whatever list software you use) and your MTA. As far as warning your users, that's entirely dependent on the relationship you have with your users, but I, for one, have pretty much barred posting or discussion of all sorts of "warnings" on my lists, whether spam, scams, viruses, hoaxes, political alerts, etc. And neither list-managers nor majordomo-users is the right place for reports or warnings themselves. -- Michael C. Berch mcb@greatcircle.com / mcb@postmodern.com From majordomo-users-owner@greatcircle.com Wed Jul 30 23:00:10 2003 Received: from planet.fef.com (unknown [157.22.35.7]) by mycroft.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 602B1196BDB; Wed, 30 Jul 2003 22:59:33 -0700 (PDT) Received: from planet.fef.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by planet.fef.com (8.12.9/8.12.9/check_local-5) with ESMTP id h6V5xSbq032130; Wed, 30 Jul 2003 22:59:28 -0700 Received: (from alvin@localhost) by planet.fef.com (8.12.9/8.12.4/Submit) id h6V5xSaA032129; Wed, 30 Jul 2003 22:59:28 -0700 From: Alvin Oga Message-Id: <200307310559.h6V5xSaA032129@planet.fef.com> Subject: Re: E-mail scams To: bobbish@earthlink.net (Bob Bish) Date: Wed, 30 Jul 2003 22:59:28 -0700 (PDT) Cc: majordomo-users@greatcircle.com, list-managers@greatcircle.com In-Reply-To: <5.2.0.9.2.20030730221446.02047bc8@pop.earthlink.net> from "Bob Bish" at Jul 30, 2003 10:16:13 PM X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.5 PL1] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Archive-Number: 200307/156 X-Sequence-Number: 3586 hi ya spams and scams are investigated and procecuted by the same people http://www.Linux-Sec.net/Mail/Laws none of the scams are new .... the same ones are here because it works and is time tested ... c ya alvin > Bob Bish wrote: > > Some are misunderstanding my question. I'm talking about sCams, > scams. NOT spam. Like those which mimic Ebay or PayPal to get people to > enter their credit card information in order to steal it. New ones are > popping up all the time these days. > > ...Bob > From majordomo-users-owner@greatcircle.com Wed Jul 30 23:02:00 2003 Received: from snipe.mail.pas.earthlink.net (snipe.mail.pas.earthlink.net [207.217.120.62]) by mycroft.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4E44B1971EA; Wed, 30 Jul 2003 23:01:58 -0700 (PDT) Received: from h-69-3-76-146.phndaz91.covad.net ([69.3.76.146] helo=Vaio.earthlink.net) by snipe.mail.pas.earthlink.net with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #1) id 19i6Vc-0006I6-00; Wed, 30 Jul 2003 23:01:52 -0700 Message-Id: <5.2.0.9.2.20030730230121.020735a0@pop.earthlink.net> X-Sender: bobbish@pop.earthlink.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.0.9 Date: Wed, 30 Jul 2003 23:01:49 -0700 To: "Michael C. Berch" From: Bob Bish Subject: Re: E-mail scams Cc: majordomo-users@greatcircle.com, list-managers@greatcircle.com In-Reply-To: References: <5.2.0.9.2.20030730213916.020678b8@pop.earthlink.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed X-Archive-Number: 200307/157 X-Sequence-Number: 3587 >> Is it proper to report e-mail scams here? > >No, not really. Message received and understood. Thanks. ...Bob From majordomo-users-owner@greatcircle.com Wed Jul 30 23:11:55 2003 Received: from ealcatraz.com (rhea.webvis.net [202.157.145.2]) by mycroft.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 53D9F196F1A for ; Wed, 30 Jul 2003 23:11:53 -0700 (PDT) Received: from tr ([203.196.153.206]) by ealcatraz.com ; Thu, 31 Jul 2003 14:02:37 +0800 GMT From: "Harshul Nayak (ealcatraz)" To: "Donald Palmer" Cc: "Majordomo-Users@Greatcircle. Com" Subject: Re: majordomo@hostname bounces all requests Date: Thu, 31 Jul 2003 11:42:58 -0000 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_009D_01C35758.E3B2CBB0" X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) In-Reply-To: <5.2.0.9.2.20030730211116.04251580@pop.swbell.yahoo.com> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Importance: Normal X-Archive-Number: 200307/158 X-Sequence-Number: 3588 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_009D_01C35758.E3B2CBB0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hello Donald, it seems to me the problem is with your aliases file of either majordomo or sendmail make sure you have the following in the majordomo.aliases file , usually stored under /etc majordomo: "|/usr/local/majordomo-1.94.X/wrapper majordomo" owner-majordomo: root, majordomo-owner: root also edit sendmail conf file to include define(`ALIAS_FILE',`/etc/aliases,/etc/majordomo.aliases') define(`confTRUSTED_USERS',`majordomo') run the newaliases command after the mofication to aliases files. I hope this article should help in context to the modification required to be done to sendmail http://new.linuxnow.com/docs/content/Majordomo-MajorCool-HOWTO-html/Majordom o-MajorCool-HOWTO-2.html -regs harshul Copyright C 2002 Sintelli http://www.sintelli.com -----Original Message----- From: majordomo-users-owner@greatcircle.com [mailto:majordomo-users-owner@greatcircle.com]On Behalf Of Donald Palmer Sent: Thursday, July 31, 2003 2:18 AM To: Majordomo-Users@GreatCircle.COM Subject: majordomo@hostname bounces all requests Greetings! I'm running Majordomo 1.94.5 (with perl 5.8.0 and Sendmail Sendmail 8.12.5) on Redhat 7.3 (2.4.18-14smp). All mail to majordomo@hostname is bounced. The wrapper test (./wrapper config-test) finds no problems. The only error is as follows: Delivery to the following recipients failed. Majordomo@hostname.org Any ideas on how to fix this? Thank you for your attention. Donald Palmer nategrey@swbell.net ------=_NextPart_000_009D_01C35758.E3B2CBB0 Content-Type: text/x-vcard; name="harshul n nayak.vcf" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="harshul n nayak.vcf" BEGIN:VCARD VERSION:2.1 N:nayak;harshul;n FN:harshul n nayak NICKNAME:harsh ORG:e Alcatraz;R&D TITLE:IS Engineer NOTE;ENCODING=QUOTED-PRINTABLE:Where there is a Will ,=0D=0AThere is a way. URL;WORK:http://www.ealcatraz.com EMAIL;PREF;INTERNET:harshul@ealcatraz.com REV:20030307T200051Z END:VCARD ------=_NextPart_000_009D_01C35758.E3B2CBB0-- From majordomo-users-owner@greatcircle.com Thu Jul 31 00:53:11 2003 Received: from sonny.org (24-116-58-25.cpe.cableone.net [24.116.58.25]) by mycroft.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8B2441962F5 for ; Thu, 31 Jul 2003 00:52:56 -0700 (PDT) Received: from sonny.org ([192.168.1.60]) by sonny.org (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id h6V7r1Lu020761; Thu, 31 Jul 2003 02:53:01 -0500 Message-ID: <3F28CAEB.2000007@sonny.org> Date: Thu, 31 Jul 2003 02:53:15 -0500 From: Daniel Liston User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.4) Gecko/20030624 Netscape/7.1 (ax) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Donald Palmer Cc: Majordomo-Users@greatcircle.com Subject: Re: majordomo@hostname bounces all requests References: <5.2.0.9.2.20030730211116.04251580@pop.swbell.yahoo.com> In-Reply-To: <5.2.0.9.2.20030730211116.04251580@pop.swbell.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Archive-Number: 200307/159 X-Sequence-Number: 3589 What does the sendmail log (/var/log/maillog) have to say about deliveries to the majordomo@hostname.org address? What is the result of a `sendmail -bv majordomo@hostname.org` command? It would be my guess, that the majordomo user does not exist in the /etc/passwd file, and/or is not defined in the /etc/aliases file. On the other hand, it is possible, that hostname.org does not have an MX or A record pointing to your majordomo server. If hostname.org is a virtual domain on someother.com, they might be misconfigured to support your majordomo server. Dan Liston Donald Palmer wrote: > Greetings! > > I'm running Majordomo 1.94.5 (with perl 5.8.0 and Sendmail Sendmail 8.12.5) > on Redhat 7.3 (2.4.18-14smp). All mail to majordomo@hostname is bounced. > The wrapper test (./wrapper config-test) finds no problems. The only error > is as follows: > > Delivery to the following recipients failed. > > Majordomo@hostname.org > > Any ideas on how to fix this? > > Thank you for your attention. > > Donald Palmer > nategrey@swbell.net From majordomo-users-owner@greatcircle.com Thu Jul 31 09:31:32 2003 Received: from franklin-belle.com (adsl-65-68-247-73.dsl.crchtx.swbell.net [65.68.247.73]) by mycroft.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1990B196C16 for ; Thu, 31 Jul 2003 09:31:30 -0700 (PDT) Received: from sagea (sagea.sage-american [10.0.0.3]) by franklin-belle.com (8.12.8p1/8.12.8) with SMTP id h6VGVR4l008957; Thu, 31 Jul 2003 11:31:27 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from jacks@sage-american.com) Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.20030731113132.0141b8f0@sage-american.com> X-Sender: jacks@sage-american.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.5 (32) Date: Thu, 31 Jul 2003 11:31:32 -0500 To: Daniel Liston From: "Jack L. Stone" Subject: Re: Subscription Confirm < PATCH Cc: majordomo-users@greatcircle.com In-Reply-To: <3F289BD1.1020009@sonny.org> References: <3.0.5.32.20030730215830.0140f3c8@sage-american.com> <3.0.5.32.20030730215830.0140f3c8@sage-american.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-1.7 required=4.5 tests=AWL,EMAIL_ATTRIBUTION,IN_REP_TO,QUOTED_EMAIL_TEXT, REFERENCES,REPLY_WITH_QUOTES autolearn=ham version=2.55-fbelle.rules_v1 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55-fbelle.rules_v1 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) X-Archive-Number: 200307/160 X-Sequence-Number: 3590 Dan: Great! This was what I needed to get it working. Many thanks for the help! ....and to Joe, thanks for a great patch! At 11:32 PM 7.30.2003 -0500, Daniel Liston wrote: >Hello Jack, > >To pair up the confirm alias with a majordomo alias "per domain" as >suggested by Joe, you would need virtusertable and majordomo.aliases >entries. Something like this; > >virtusertable: >majordomo@sonny.com sonny.com-majordomo >majordomo@sonny.org sonny.org-majordomo >majordomo@liston.nu liston.nu-majordomo > >confirm@sonny.com sonny.com-confirm >confirm@sonny.org sonny.org-confirm >confirm@liston.nu liston.nu-confirm > >majordomo.aliases: >sonny.com-majordomo: "|/usr/lib/majordomo/wrapper majordomo -C /var/lib/majordomo/sonny.com/majordomo.cf" >sonny.org-majordomo: "|/usr/lib/majordomo/wrapper majordomo -C /var/lib/majordomo/sonny.org/majordomo.cf" >liston.nu-majordomo: "|/usr/lib/majordomo/wrapper majordomo -C /var/lib/majordomo/liston.nu/majordomo.cf" > >sonny.com-confirm: "|/usr/lib/majordomo/wrapper majordomo -C /var/lib/majordomo/sonny.com/majordomo.cf -a" >sonny.org-confirm: "|/usr/lib/majordomo/wrapper majordomo -C /var/lib/majordomo/sonny.org/majordomo.cf -a" >liston.nu-confirm: "|/usr/lib/majordomo/wrapper majordomo -C /var/lib/majordomo/liston.nu/majordomo.cf -a" > >Dan Liston > >Jack L. Stone wrote: > >> Hi Dan: We worked together on your MJ list setup scripts. >> >> I noticed the thread about the patch that will change the subscription >> confirmation. I believe it was developed by Joe R. Jah. This was just what >> I needed to eliminate those who can't deal with the present method of >> open+confirm requiring the long command line that wraps. >> >> I finally go the patch tweaked so that majordomo is working again on >> franklin-belle.com. Alas, it puts the confirm.keys in the right place, but >> cannot find the right place on confirming. This iw why: >> >> MAJORDOMO ABORT (mj_majordomo)!! >> Couldn't read key file /usr/local/majordomo/lists/confirm.keys: No such >> file or directory >> /usr/local/majordomo/lists/confirm.keys >> ...really at: >> /usr/local/majordomo/franklin-belle.com/lists/confirm.keys >> >> You may recognize the above setup for vhosts as being from your script. >> Obviously, the patch doesn't fix things 100%. >> >> I can get it to confirm if I move the keys file to the place it wants, but >> then the confirmation shows an error that it is subscribed to an unknown list. >> >> I was wondering if you had tried the patch using the same setup as I have >> and what did you do to tweak it..?? ...an entry in virtusertable...?? and >> where did you put this line in aliases: >> confirm: "|/usr/local/majordomo/wrapper majordomo -a" >> >> I put it at the top, then within the vhost list section... nada...!! >> >> Thanks for any assist... >> >> BTW, I asked Joe about this, but I don't think he knows how your script >> handles vhost lists, which I believe is the problem here. >> >> Best regards, >> Jack L. Stone, >> Administrator >> >> Sage American >> http://www.sage-american.com >> jacks@sage-american.com > > Best regards, Jack L. Stone, Administrator Sage American http://www.sage-american.com jacks@sage-american.com