From majordomo-users-owner@greatcircle.com Mon Feb 2 12:39:04 2004 Received: from vera.dpo.uab.edu (vera1.dpo.uab.edu [138.26.1.212]) by mycroft.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2A252561D7 for ; Mon, 2 Feb 2004 12:38:39 -0800 (PST) Received: from cis.uab.edu (moat.cis.uab.edu) by vera.dpo.uab.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0043D436@vera.dpo.uab.edu>; Mon, 2 Feb 2004 14:38:38 -0600 Received: from cis.uab.edu (ds119b [138.26.64.14]) by cis.uab.edu (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id i12KccmY028254 for ; Mon, 2 Feb 2004 14:38:38 -0600 Message-ID: <401EB50D.9010307@cis.uab.edu> Date: Mon, 02 Feb 2004 14:37:33 -0600 From: Fran Fabrizio User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.5) Gecko/20031007 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: majordomo-users@greatcircle.com Subject: Constant calls to majordomo 'help' command from same address? Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Archive-Number: 200402/1 X-Sequence-Number: 4364 I'm a sysadmin with no majordomo experience who has inherited a majordomo setup and now a majordomo problem. My majordomo log is showing a ton of requests all from the same user: Feb 02 14:14:18 cis.uab.edu majordomo[27385] {user@someplace.in.it} help Feb 02 14:14:37 cis.uab.edu majordomo[27406] {user@someplace.in.it} help Feb 02 14:15:00 cis.uab.edu majordomo[27425] {user@someplace.in.it} help However, I don't see any incoming transactions in my maillog that would indicate that this user is actually requesting help. This user does not appear on any majordomo list at our site. I do see all the outgoing messages that correspond to the help messages being sent out, I think. The only place this user's address appears in the sendmail maillog is as a recipient - never as a sender. Basically, it appears that majordomo is responding to phantom help requests - over the weekend the frequency got to be several per second. We had some network outages and I fear this may have been related. What are these, and more importantly, how do I track why majordomo thinks it's getting these requests and how I can stop majordomo from sending them. Redhat 9, Majordomo 1.94.5 Thanks, Fran -- Fran Fabrizio Senior Systems Analyst Department of Computer and Information Sciences University of Alabama - Birmingham fran@cis.uab.edu (205) 934-0653 From majordomo-users-owner@greatcircle.com Mon Feb 2 13:39:17 2004 Received: from mail.cableone.net (scanmail3.cableone.net [24.116.0.123]) by mycroft.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2216C55B3F for ; Mon, 2 Feb 2004 13:38:58 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail.sonny.com (unverified [24.116.58.25]) by smail3.cableone.net (SurgeMail 1.5d2) with ESMTP id 4687032 for multiple; Mon, 02 Feb 2004 14:30:10 -0700 Received: from sonny.org (dad.liston.nu [192.168.1.60]) (authenticated bits=0) by mail.sonny.com (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id i12LJDaY020437 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5 bits=128 verify=OK); Mon, 2 Feb 2004 15:19:15 -0600 Message-ID: <401EBEEC.8030209@sonny.org> Date: Mon, 02 Feb 2004 15:19:40 -0600 From: Daniel Liston User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.4) Gecko/20030624 Netscape/7.1 (ax) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Fran Fabrizio Cc: majordomo-users@greatcircle.com Subject: Re: Constant calls to majordomo 'help' command from same address? References: <401EB50D.9010307@cis.uab.edu> In-Reply-To: <401EB50D.9010307@cis.uab.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Server: High Performance Mail Server - http://surgemail.com X-Archive-Number: 200402/2 X-Sequence-Number: 4365 I would look for two things, a message stuck in the mailq, or a malicious script running. Do humans (other than admins) have access to the majordomo server at the shell level? You might "grep 'from=' /var/log/maillog*" It is also quite possible, that your majordomo address has been forged by one of the recent email worms, and when bounces come in, majordomo treats the message as "commands not understood" and sends the help file. The user in question could just be an infected machine. You can blacklist them in the /etc/mail/access table to prevent the massive mailings that will inevitably end up in a ping pong match of sending the help message and receiving a "mailbox full" reply, which sends the help message, which..... Dan Liston Fran Fabrizio wrote: > > I'm a sysadmin with no majordomo experience who has inherited a > majordomo setup and now a majordomo problem. My majordomo log is > showing a ton of requests all from the same user: > > Feb 02 14:14:18 cis.uab.edu majordomo[27385] {user@someplace.in.it} help > Feb 02 14:14:37 cis.uab.edu majordomo[27406] {user@someplace.in.it} help > Feb 02 14:15:00 cis.uab.edu majordomo[27425] {user@someplace.in.it} help > > However, I don't see any incoming transactions in my maillog that would > indicate that this user is actually requesting help. This user does not > appear on any majordomo list at our site. I do see all the outgoing > messages that correspond to the help messages being sent out, I think. > The only place this user's address appears in the sendmail maillog is as > a recipient - never as a sender. Basically, it appears that majordomo > is responding to phantom help requests - over the weekend the frequency > got to be several per second. We had some network outages and I fear > this may have been related. What are these, and more importantly, how > do I track why majordomo thinks it's getting these requests and how I > can stop majordomo from sending them. > > Redhat 9, Majordomo 1.94.5 > > Thanks, > Fran > > > From majordomo-users-owner@greatcircle.com Tue Feb 3 13:25:29 2004 Received: from albert.sacred.sf.ca.us (albert.sacred.sf.ca.us [209.10.59.159]) by mycroft.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7D78F5758E for ; Tue, 3 Feb 2004 13:23:59 -0800 (PST) Received: from fortmudge (fort-mudge.sacred.sf.ca.us [209.10.59.249]) by albert.sacred.sf.ca.us (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id i13LMZI13405 for ; Tue, 3 Feb 2004 13:22:35 -0800 Reply-To: From: "Hoover Chan" To: Subject: more on "too many recipients" for hotmail et al Date: Tue, 3 Feb 2004 13:24:25 -0800 Message-ID: <00ec01c3ea9c$19a13960$f93b0ad1@fortmudge> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook CWS, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Importance: Normal X-Message-Flag: Follow up X-Archive-Number: 200402/3 X-Sequence-Number: 4366 I tried the: define(`SMTP_MAILER_MAXRCPTS',`50') When I restart sendmail, I get a: 554 5.0.0 /etc/sendmail.cf: line 1416: Mesmtp: unknown mailer equate r=50 554 5.0.0 /etc/sendmail.cf: line 1419: Msmtp8: unknown mailer equate r=50 554 5.0.0 /etc/sendmail.cf: line 1422: Mdsmtp: unknown mailer equate r=50 Using sendmail 8.11.6 and majordomo 1.94.4 What's happening here? Sendmail version too old? Some kind of syntax error? Thanks in advance. -------------------------------------------- Hoover Chan chan@sacred.sf.ca.us Network Administrator Schools of the Sacred Heart 2222 Broadway St. San Francisco, CA 94115 From majordomo-users-owner@greatcircle.com Tue Feb 3 13:40:34 2004 Received: from cfa.harvard.edu (cfa.harvard.edu [131.142.10.1]) by mycroft.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 73AB3579B7 for ; Tue, 3 Feb 2004 13:38:16 -0800 (PST) Received: from cfa.harvard.edu (earth [131.142.25.99]) by cfa.harvard.edu (8.12.9-20030924/8.12.9/cfunix Mast-Sol 1.0) with ESMTP id i13LcF6u006753 for ; Tue, 3 Feb 2004 16:38:15 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <402014C7.1050106@cfa.harvard.edu> Date: Tue, 03 Feb 2004 16:38:15 -0500 From: "Janice A. LeBlanc" Reply-To: jaleblanc@cfa.harvard.edu Organization: Harvard-Smithsonian Center for Astrophysics User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; SunOS sun4u; en-US; rv:1.4) Gecko/20030701 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: majordomo-users@greatcircle.com Subject: Re: more on "too many recipients" for hotmail et al References: <00ec01c3ea9c$19a13960$f93b0ad1@fortmudge> In-Reply-To: <00ec01c3ea9c$19a13960$f93b0ad1@fortmudge> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Archive-Number: 200402/4 X-Sequence-Number: 4367 Hoover Chan wrote: > I tried the: > > define(`SMTP_MAILER_MAXRCPTS',`50') > > When I restart sendmail, I get a: > > 554 5.0.0 /etc/sendmail.cf: line 1416: Mesmtp: unknown mailer equate r=50 > 554 5.0.0 /etc/sendmail.cf: line 1419: Msmtp8: unknown mailer equate r=50 > 554 5.0.0 /etc/sendmail.cf: line 1422: Mdsmtp: unknown mailer equate r=50 > > Using sendmail 8.11.6 and majordomo 1.94.4 > > What's happening here? Sendmail version too old? Some kind of syntax error? > > Thanks in advance. > > -------------------------------------------- > Hoover Chan chan@sacred.sf.ca.us > Network Administrator > Schools of the Sacred Heart > 2222 Broadway St. > San Francisco, CA 94115 > > > I think the version of sendmail you have wants this: define(`confMAX_RCPTS_PER_MESSAGE', `50')dnl Majordomo should be fine. -- ============================================================= Janice LeBlanc phone (617) 496-7503 CF Unix System Administrator fax (617) 496-7500 Harvard - Smithsonian email: jaleblanc@cfa.harvard.edu Center for Astrophysics http://cfa-www.harvard.edu 60 Garden St., Cambridge, MA 02138 Room B213 ============================================================= From majordomo-users-owner@greatcircle.com Tue Feb 3 13:58:11 2004 Received: from chroma.med.miami.edu (chroma.med.miami.edu [129.171.129.80]) by mycroft.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with SMTP id 738F752582 for ; Tue, 3 Feb 2004 13:57:57 -0800 (PST) Received: (qmail 8860 invoked by uid 144); 3 Feb 2004 21:59:12 -0000 Received: from localhost (sendmail-bs@127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 3 Feb 2004 21:59:12 -0000 Date: Tue, 3 Feb 2004 16:59:12 -0500 (EST) From: To: Majordomo-users@greatcircle.com Subject: Re: majordomo from: address In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Archive-Number: 200402/5 X-Sequence-Number: 4368 I found it, it was who I masquerade as in /etc/sendmail.cf making that null fixed the problem. Thank-you. On Tue, 3 Feb 2004 dlandown@chroma.med.miami.edu wrote: > > I've just setup Majordomo and succesfully subscribed members and sent and > received mail from the list. I have a problem with the message header > on the mail sent out by majordomo as shown below. In the header it is > using one of my valid email addresses in the place where I think it should > be using mydomain.org. In the body of the help message and the subscribe > messages it appropriately uses mydomain.org > > another.org does not appear in /etc/aliases now. It has been there > in the past and may well be in other places. It is not in > /etc/majordomo.cf I'm running sendmail 8.9.1 > > Can anyone offer a hint where to look? > > tia David > > _______________ > > Date: Tue, 3 Feb 2004 16:12:35 -0500 > From: Majordomo@david@another.org > To: dlandown@chroma.med.miami.edu > Subject: Majordomo results > > -- > > >>>> help > > This help message is being sent to you from the Majordomo mailing list > management system at Majordomo@mydomain.org. > > This is version 1.94.3 of Majordomo. > > > > From majordomo-users-owner@greatcircle.com Tue Feb 3 15:50:46 2004 Received: from mcastl.juda.com (pool-141-153-149-205.mad.east.verizon.net [141.153.149.205]) by mycroft.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 961D350EB0 for ; Tue, 3 Feb 2004 15:50:33 -0800 (PST) Received: from juda.com (krazyhouse.juda.com [192.168.1.5]) by mcastl.juda.com (8.11.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id i13NoQi13047; Tue, 3 Feb 2004 18:50:26 -0500 Message-ID: <402033C1.8080100@juda.com> Date: Tue, 03 Feb 2004 18:50:25 -0500 From: Burt Juda User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win 9x 4.90; en-US; rv:1.6b) Gecko/20031205 Thunderbird/0.4 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: chan@sacred.sf.ca.us Cc: majordomo-users@greatcircle.com Subject: Re: ( more on "too many recipients" for hotmail References: <00ec01c3ea9c$19a13960$f93b0ad1@fortmudge> In-Reply-To: <00ec01c3ea9c$19a13960$f93b0ad1@fortmudge> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Archive-Number: 200402/6 X-Sequence-Number: 4369 I'd suggest upgrading sendmail to 8.12.x Hoover Chan wrote: >I tried the: > >define(`SMTP_MAILER_MAXRCPTS',`50') > >When I restart sendmail, I get a: > >554 5.0.0 /etc/sendmail.cf: line 1416: Mesmtp: unknown mailer equate r=50 >554 5.0.0 /etc/sendmail.cf: line 1419: Msmtp8: unknown mailer equate r=50 >554 5.0.0 /etc/sendmail.cf: line 1422: Mdsmtp: unknown mailer equate r=50 > >Using sendmail 8.11.6 and majordomo 1.94.4 > >What's happening here? Sendmail version too old? Some kind of syntax error? > > > From majordomo-users-owner@greatcircle.com Tue Feb 3 16:03:07 2004 Received: from albert.sacred.sf.ca.us (albert.sacred.sf.ca.us [209.10.59.159]) by mycroft.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3C92B5D351 for ; Tue, 3 Feb 2004 15:59:47 -0800 (PST) Received: from fortmudge (fort-mudge.sacred.sf.ca.us [209.10.59.249]) by albert.sacred.sf.ca.us (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id i13NwMB15064; Tue, 3 Feb 2004 15:58:22 -0800 Reply-To: From: "Hoover Chan" To: "'Burt Juda'" Cc: Subject: Re: ( more on "too many recipients" for hotmail et al) Date: Tue, 3 Feb 2004 16:00:12 -0800 Message-ID: <00fb01c3eab1$dcec71e0$f93b0ad1@fortmudge> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook CWS, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 In-Reply-To: <402033C1.8080100@juda.com> Importance: Normal X-Archive-Number: 200402/7 X-Sequence-Number: 4370 re: upgrading sendmail to 8.12.x Yes, that's definitely the right way to go given problems with earlier versions. I just wanted to have something to tide over during the transition. Thanks. -------------------------------------------- Hoover Chan chan@sacred.sf.ca.us Network Administrator Schools of the Sacred Heart 2222 Broadway St. San Francisco, CA 94115 From majordomo-users-owner@greatcircle.com Tue Feb 3 17:24:14 2004 Received: from eis-ml2rdp.eis.ds.usace.army.mil (unknown [137.161.251.34]) by mycroft.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1A3CC57608 for ; Tue, 3 Feb 2004 17:23:44 -0800 (PST) Received: from eis-ml1rdp.eis.ds.usace.army.mil ([137.161.251.33]) by eis-ml2rdp.eis.ds.usace.army.mil with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.0); Tue, 3 Feb 2004 17:23:41 -0800 Received: from eis-ml1emc.eis.ds.usace.army.mil ([137.161.251.35]) by eis-ml1rdp.eis.ds.usace.army.mil with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.0); Tue, 3 Feb 2004 17:23:41 -0800 Content-class: urn:content-classes:message Subject: Majordomo stopped working ... MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----_=_NextPart_001_01C3EABD.8588BF6B" Date: Tue, 3 Feb 2004 17:23:40 -0800 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5.6944.0 Message-ID: <53BCA9ECAF1483428FCBF2E36A7ECDC10889BD@eis-ml1emc.eis.ds.usace.army.mil> X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: Majordomo stopped working ... Thread-Index: AcPqvYWNGdHZ4jLfTGODO9C7bcoE0g== From: "Wilson, Sue LCC" To: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 04 Feb 2004 01:23:41.0068 (UTC) FILETIME=[85C7ACC0:01C3EABD] X-Archive-Number: 200402/8 X-Sequence-Number: 4371 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------_=_NextPart_001_01C3EABD.8588BF6B Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Created a new list today and was testing when this started... Thinking that the alias file was in some way corrupted replace it with an older one and still get the same error. Would appreciate any ideas. Getting this error in syslog=20 Feb 4 01:16:19 lst.usace.army.mil sendmail[7221]: [ID 801593 mail.info] i141GJT07221: from=3Dsue, size=3D77, class=3D0, nrcpts=3D1, msgid=3D<200402040116.i141GJT07221@lst.usace.army.mil>, relay=3Droot@localh= ost Feb 4 01:16:19 lst.usace.army.mil sendmail[7221]: [ID 801593 mail.info] i141GJU07221: clone i141GJT07221, owner=3Dls-mailhub-owner Feb 4 01:16:19 lst.usace.army.mil sendmail[7223]: [ID 801593 mail.info] i141GJU07221: to=3D"|/export/opt/majordomo/wrapper resend -l ls-mailhub -h lst.usace.army.mil ls-mailhub-outgoing", ctladdr=3Dls-mailhub (1/0), delay=3D00:00:00, xdelay=3D00:00:00, mailer=3Dprog, pri=3D120077, dsn=3D5.3= .0, stat=3Dunknown mailer error 1 Feb 4 01:16:19 lst.usace.army.mil sendmail[7223]: [ID 801593 mail.info] i141GJU07221: i141GJS07223: DSN: unknown mailer error 1 Sue Wilson CEEIS EMAIL Portland, OR 503 808 4965 ------_=_NextPart_001_01C3EABD.8588BF6B Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Majordomo stopped working ...

Created a new list today and was testing w= hen this started…

Thinking that the alias file was in some w= ay corrupted replace it with an older one and still get the same error.

Would appreciate any ideas.

Getting this error in syslog

Feb  4 01:16:19 lst.usace.army.mil se= ndmail[7221]: [ID 801593 mail.info] i141GJT07221: from=3Dsue, size=3D77, cl= ass=3D0, nrcpts=3D1, msgid=3D<200402040116.i141GJT07221@lst.usace.army.m= il>, relay=3Droot@localhost

Feb  4 01:16:19 lst.usace.army.mil se= ndmail[7221]: [ID 801593 mail.info] i141GJU07221: clone i141GJT07221, owner= =3Dls-mailhub-owner

Feb  4 01:16:19 lst.usace.army.mil se= ndmail[7223]: [ID 801593 mail.info] i141GJU07221: to=3D"|/export/opt/m= ajordomo/wrapper resend -l ls-mailhub -h lst.usace.army.mil ls-mailhub-outg= oing", ctladdr=3Dls-mailhub (1/0), delay=3D00:00:00, xdelay=3D00:00:00= , mailer=3Dprog, pri=3D120077, dsn=3D5.3.0, stat=3Dunknown mailer error = 1

Feb  4 01:16:19 lst.usace.army.mil se= ndmail[7223]: [ID 801593 mail.info] i141GJU07221: i141GJS07223: DSN: unknow= n mailer error 1

Sue Wilson
CEEIS EMAIL
Portland, OR
503 808 4965

------_=_NextPart_001_01C3EABD.8588BF6B-- From majordomo-users-owner@greatcircle.com Tue Feb 3 22:34:56 2004 Received: from soln-sr234.solutionip.com (unknown [64.140.24.194]) by mycroft.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5048152D97 for ; Tue, 3 Feb 2004 22:34:38 -0800 (PST) Received: from [64.140.24.204] (helo=sonny.org) by soln-sr234.solutionip.com with esmtp (Exim 3.34 #1) id 1AoGcF-0006x9-00; Wed, 04 Feb 2004 00:34:27 -0600 Message-ID: <40209261.6070605@sonny.org> Date: Wed, 04 Feb 2004 00:34:09 -0600 From: Daniel Liston Organization: Sun Microsystems Inc. User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.6b) Gecko/20031216 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "Wilson, Sue LCC" Cc: majordomo-users@greatcircle.com Subject: Re: Majordomo stopped working ... References: <53BCA9ECAF1483428FCBF2E36A7ECDC10889BD@eis-ml1emc.eis.ds.usace.army.mil> In-Reply-To: <53BCA9ECAF1483428FCBF2E36A7ECDC10889BD@eis-ml1emc.eis.ds.usace.army.mil> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Archive-Number: 200402/9 X-Sequence-Number: 4372 Long time no see Sue. What version of sendmail are you running? Was sendmail upgraded recently? What user were you logged in as when you sent your test email? Is sendmail configured to use smrsh? If so, is the majordomo wrapper linked into the smrsh directory, so sendmail will allow piping to the wrapper? Just some thoughts. Also interesting, is the relay=root@localhost. Is this in your logs for other majordomo related deliveries? Dan Liston Wilson, Sue LCC wrote: > Created a new list today and was testing when this started… > > Thinking that the alias file was in some way corrupted replace it with > an older one and still get the same error. > > Would appreciate any ideas. > > Getting this error in syslog > > Feb 4 01:16:19 lst.usace.army.mil sendmail[7221]: [ID 801593 mail.info] > i141GJT07221: from=sue, size=77, class=0, nrcpts=1, > msgid=<200402040116.i141GJT07221@lst.usace.army.mil>, relay=root@localhost > > Feb 4 01:16:19 lst.usace.army.mil sendmail[7221]: [ID 801593 mail.info] > i141GJU07221: clone i141GJT07221, owner=ls-mailhub-owner > > Feb 4 01:16:19 lst.usace.army.mil sendmail[7223]: [ID 801593 mail.info] > i141GJU07221: to="|/export/opt/majordomo/wrapper resend -l ls-mailhub -h > lst.usace.army.mil ls-mailhub-outgoing", ctladdr=ls-mailhub (1/0), > delay=00:00:00, xdelay=00:00:00, mailer=prog, pri=120077, dsn=5.3.0,* > stat=unknown mailer error 1* > > Feb 4 01:16:19 lst.usace.army.mil sendmail[7223]: [ID 801593 mail.info] > i141GJU07221: i141GJS07223: DSN: unknown mailer error 1 > > */Sue Wilson/* > */CEEIS EMAIL/* > */Portland, OR/* > */503 808 4965/* > From majordomo-users-owner@greatcircle.com Wed Feb 4 13:52:13 2004 Received: from web60202.mail.yahoo.com (web60202.mail.yahoo.com [216.109.118.97]) by mycroft.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with SMTP id 6420855DF0 for ; Wed, 4 Feb 2004 12:36:58 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <20040204203657.27218.qmail@web60202.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [81.128.86.156] by web60202.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Wed, 04 Feb 2004 20:36:57 GMT Date: Wed, 4 Feb 2004 20:36:57 +0000 (GMT) From: =?iso-8859-1?q?Lee?= Subject: Dealing with all those 'help requests' due to spam To: major Cc: me MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0-650349627-1075927017=:26808" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Archive-Number: 200402/10 X-Sequence-Number: 4373 --0-650349627-1075927017=:26808 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit hello, Reading a recent reply to a list message here from Dan, I've decided to set up an arduous filter system to help me keep track of the addresses 'spamming' my majordomo. They generate many, many 'command not understood' errors thus sending out the help file ... which bounces back .... etc ..... My aim is to create a blacklist which Dan referred to, which I could then forward to my majordomo host for adding to the system. There's an example of such a message, including the full headers, here: http://www.incelsite.com/example.txt I receive all the messages via the list-owner address, which is set to send mail to my ukonline account, which I then collect via a POP3 to my main Yahoo account for perusal - just to explain my path there. Now, so far, with the exception of a couple of messages coming from obviously the same 'spammer domain', such as 'biz-today.net' for eg, I have accumulated a list of 35 apparently 'unique' addresses. This is currently showing no signs of slowing down !! I'm assuming some spammers generate new random addresses each time, maybe just the xxxx@ part, so am I wasting my time here? I can see some common domains coming through, such as msn.com and yahoo.com, but surely I couldn't just blacklist those because many legal list subscribers would then be blacklisted? So basically, is there any point in doing what I'm trying here, or is there something I'm missing in the concept? I should add that my server host's recent changes and my use of the restrict_post function ( which Dan and Roger here helped me with ) have stopped 'spam' messages actually coming onto the list itself. I look forward to your advice here, thanks a lot, lee --------------------------------- BT Yahoo! Broadband - Free modem offer, sign up online today and save £80 --0-650349627-1075927017=:26808 Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit
 
hello,
 
Reading a recent reply to a list message here from Dan, I've decided to set up an arduous filter system to help me keep track of the addresses  'spamming' my majordomo. They generate many, many 'command not understood' errors thus sending out the help file ... which bounces back .... etc .....
My aim is to create a blacklist which Dan referred to, which I could then forward to my majordomo host for adding to the system.
 
There's an example of such a message, including the full headers, here:
 
 
I receive all the messages via the list-owner address, which is set to send mail to my ukonline account, which I then collect via a POP3 to my main Yahoo account for perusal - just to explain my path there.
 
Now, so far, with the exception of a couple of messages coming from obviously the same 'spammer domain', such as 'biz-today.net' for eg, I have accumulated a list of 35 apparently 'unique' addresses. This is currently showing no signs of slowing down !!
 
I'm assuming some spammers generate new random addresses each time, maybe just the xxxx@ part, so am I wasting my time here?
I can see some common domains coming through, such as msn.com and yahoo.com, but surely I couldn't just blacklist those because many legal list subscribers would then be blacklisted?
 
So basically, is there any point in doing what I'm trying here, or is there something I'm missing in the concept?
I should add that my server host's recent changes and my use of the restrict_post function ( which Dan and Roger here helped me with ) have stopped 'spam' messages actually coming onto the list itself.
 
I look forward to your advice here,
 
thanks a lot,
 
lee
 
 

BT Yahoo! Broadband - Free modem offer, sign up online today and save £80 --0-650349627-1075927017=:26808-- From majordomo-users-owner@greatcircle.com Wed Feb 4 16:20:00 2004 Received: from wrenkasky.com (esson.net [216.102.129.43]) by mycroft.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4286257B8D for ; Wed, 4 Feb 2004 16:10:35 -0800 (PST) Received: from KASKY.esson.net (kasky.priority.usc.edu [128.125.63.85]) (authenticated bits=0) by wrenkasky.com (8.12.9/8.12.9) with ESMTP id i150AAXg022437 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-SHA bits=128 verify=NOT) for ; Wed, 4 Feb 2004 16:10:29 -0800 Message-Id: <6.0.0.22.2.20040204160939.01bfe860@mail.esson.net> X-Sender: ed@mail.esson.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 6.0.0.22 Date: Wed, 04 Feb 2004 16:10:00 -0800 To: majordomo-users@GreatCircle.COM From: Ed Kasky Subject: Re: Dealing with all those 'help requests' due to spam Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed X-Archive-Number: 200402/11 X-Sequence-Number: 4374 If I read your question correctly, what you may need is an access database for your sendmail. I have a list of over 10,000 entries that blocks 50% of all spam before it even gets past sendmail. However, it does take time to collect the ip's and domains. I have been employing a combination of SpamAssassin and some custom scripts that I run on known spams to generate the new entries based on the route the spam takes to get to me. As a result, I now get maybe 2 false negatives per month and about the same number of false positives. And the total amount of spam hitting our box nowadays is topping 50%!!!! Let me know off list if you're interested and I can point you to the appropriate sources. At 12:36 PM Wednesday, 2/4/2004, you wrote -=> >I'm assuming some spammers generate new random addresses each time, maybe >just the xxxx@ part, so am I wasting my time here? >I can see some common domains coming through, such as msn.com and >yahoo.com, but surely I couldn't just blacklist those because many legal >list subscribers would then be blacklisted? > >So basically, is there any point in doing what I'm trying here, or is >there something I'm missing in the concept? From majordomo-users-owner@greatcircle.com Wed Feb 4 16:27:52 2004 Received: from web60201.mail.yahoo.com (web60201.mail.yahoo.com [216.109.118.96]) by mycroft.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with SMTP id 4C2715758C for ; Wed, 4 Feb 2004 16:04:22 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <20040205000420.43356.qmail@web60201.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [81.128.86.156] by web60201.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Thu, 05 Feb 2004 00:04:20 GMT Date: Thu, 5 Feb 2004 00:04:20 +0000 (GMT) From: =?iso-8859-1?q?Lee?= Subject: Re: Dealing with all those 'help requests' due to spam To: "Joe R. Jah" Cc: major , me In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0-1086212564-1075939460=:42084" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Archive-Number: 200402/12 X-Sequence-Number: 4375 --0-1086212564-1075939460=:42084 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit hello Joe, thanks very much for your reply - it sounds like you've totally grasped my situation! So, I'll stop my masochistic (sp) email address logging I'm doing and approach my host with your patch. I'm assuming you use it and it works ok? I'm also assuming there are no generic bits in it which need tailoring to my install; I couldn't see any on a quick zap through it. Many thanks again, Lee "Joe R. Jah" wrote: On Wed, 4 Feb 2004, [iso-8859-1] Lee wrote: > Date: Wed, 4 Feb 2004 20:36:57 +0000 (GMT) > From: "[iso-8859-1] Lee" > To: major > Cc: me > Subject: Dealing with all those 'help requests' due to spam > > > hello, > Reading a recent reply to a list message here from Dan, I've decided > to set up an arduous filter system to help me keep track of the > addresses 'spamming' my majordomo. They generate many, many 'command > not understood' errors thus sending out the help file ... which > bounces back .... etc ..... My aim is to create a blacklist which Dan > referred to, which I could then forward to my majordomo host for > adding to the system. [snip] > So basically, is there any point in doing what I'm trying here, or is Not really;) > I look forward to your advice here, > > thanks a lot, Take a look at this, and see if you can convince your Majordomo host to apply it. ftp://ftp.ccsf.org/majordomo-patches/1.94.5/noCommand_noBounce.0 Regards, Joe . --------------------------------- BT Yahoo! Broadband - Free modem offer, sign up online today and save £80 --0-1086212564-1075939460=:42084 Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit
hello Joe,
 
thanks very much for your reply - it sounds like you've totally grasped my situation!
 
So, I'll stop my masochistic (sp) email address logging I'm doing and approach my host with your patch. I'm assuming you use it and it works ok?
 
I'm also assuming there are no generic bits in it which need tailoring to my install; I couldn't see any on a quick zap through it.
 
Many thanks again,
 
Lee


"Joe R. Jah" <jjah@cloud.ccsf.cc.ca.us> wrote:
On Wed, 4 Feb 2004, [iso-8859-1] Lee wrote:

> Date: Wed, 4 Feb 2004 20:36:57 +0000 (GMT)
> From: "[iso-8859-1] Lee"
> To: major
> Cc: me
> Subject: Dealing with all those 'help requests' due to spam
>
>
> hello,
> Reading a recent reply to a list message here from Dan, I've decided
> to set up an arduous filter system to help me keep track of the
> addresses 'spamming' my majordomo. They generate many, many 'command
> not understood' errors thus sending out the help file ... which
> bounces back .... etc ..... My aim is to create a blacklist which Dan
> referred to, which I could then forward to my majordomo host for
> adding to the system.

[snip]

> So basically, is there any point in doing what I'm trying here, or is

Not really;)

> I look forward to your advice here,
>
> thanks a lot,

Take a look at this, and see if you can convince your Majordomo host to
apply it.

ftp://ftp.ccsf.org/majordomo-patches/1.94.5/noCommand_noBounce.0

Regards,

Joe
.

BT Yahoo! Broadband - Free modem offer, sign up online today and save £80 --0-1086212564-1075939460=:42084-- From majordomo-users-owner@greatcircle.com Wed Feb 4 17:14:28 2004 Received: from cloud.ccsf.cc.ca.us (cloud.ccsf.cc.ca.us [147.144.1.212]) by mycroft.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C8D0B57287 for ; Wed, 4 Feb 2004 15:53:27 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (jjah@localhost) by cloud.ccsf.cc.ca.us (8.11.6/8.11.2) with ESMTP id i14NrOg23806; Wed, 4 Feb 2004 15:53:24 -0800 (PST) Date: Wed, 4 Feb 2004 15:53:24 -0800 (PST) From: "Joe R. Jah" To: =?iso-8859-1?q?Lee?= Cc: major Subject: Re: Dealing with all those 'help requests' due to spam In-Reply-To: <20040204203657.27218.qmail@web60202.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Archive-Number: 200402/13 X-Sequence-Number: 4376 On Wed, 4 Feb 2004, [iso-8859-1] Lee wrote: > Date: Wed, 4 Feb 2004 20:36:57 +0000 (GMT) > From: "[iso-8859-1] Lee" > To: major > Cc: me > Subject: Dealing with all those 'help requests' due to spam > > > hello, > Reading a recent reply to a list message here from Dan, I've decided > to set up an arduous filter system to help me keep track of the > addresses 'spamming' my majordomo. They generate many, many 'command > not understood' errors thus sending out the help file ... which > bounces back .... etc ..... My aim is to create a blacklist which Dan > referred to, which I could then forward to my majordomo host for > adding to the system. [snip] > So basically, is there any point in doing what I'm trying here, or is Not really;) > I look forward to your advice here, > > thanks a lot, Take a look at this, and see if you can convince your Majordomo host to apply it. ftp://ftp.ccsf.org/majordomo-patches/1.94.5/noCommand_noBounce.0 Regards, Joe -- _/ _/_/_/ _/ ____________ __o _/ _/ _/ _/ ______________ _-\<,_ _/ _/ _/_/_/ _/ _/ ......(_)/ (_) _/_/ oe _/ _/. _/_/ ah jjah@cloud.ccsf.cc.ca.us From majordomo-users-owner@greatcircle.com Wed Feb 4 20:43:20 2004 Received: from mail9.atl.registeredsite.com (mail9.atl.registeredsite.com [64.224.219.83]) by mycroft.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id AF8D751002 for ; Wed, 4 Feb 2004 18:34:44 -0800 (PST) Received: from imta02a2.registeredsite.com (imta02a2.registeredsite.com [64.225.255.11]) by mail9.atl.registeredsite.com (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id i153YiV4008525 for ; Wed, 4 Feb 2004 22:34:44 -0500 Received: from landracing ([24.8.1.18]) by imta02a2.registeredsite.com with SMTP id <20040205023443.ONPV28907.imta02a2.registeredsite.com@landracing> for ; Wed, 4 Feb 2004 21:34:43 -0500 Message-ID: <011601c3eb90$8c8a07a0$6401a8c0@landracing> From: "Jonathan Amo" To: Subject: Server Help Date: Wed, 4 Feb 2004 19:34:15 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0113_01C3EB55.DFC4A5A0" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 X-Archive-Number: 200402/14 X-Sequence-Number: 4377 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0113_01C3EB55.DFC4A5A0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hello All, I know there is a wealth of information on this list so I am posting this q= uestion. I would like to house a majordomo server for one email list this list only = gathers about 20-50 emails a day so. I would like this server to be in my h= ome. I assume my cable connection is most adequate to serve this. I have a computer and connection to do this. But I will need very detailed = help on setting up a unix box, setting up majordomo. Like what is the best platf= orm to=20 use with majordomo. What else will I need besides Unix and the connection a= nd=20 majordomo. As I am basic familiar with majordomo I have setup thru a hosting account t= hat already=20 has the box, unix etc I just had to fill in a few parameters and away I wen= t. I hope that someone on the list can help, maybe even better someone in the = Denver area can help with implementing such a task. I know nothing is free = so I am willing to pay for such a service as help doing it. Please any info and help is appreciated. Jonathan Amo ------=_NextPart_000_0113_01C3EB55.DFC4A5A0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hello All,
 
I know there is a wealth of information on= this=20 list so I am posting this question.
 
I would like to house a majordomo server f= or one=20 email list this list only gathers about 20-50 emails a day so. I would like= this=20 server to be in my home. I assume my cable connection is most adequate to s= erve=20 this.
 
I have a computer and connection to do thi= s. But I=20 will need very detailed help
on setting up a unix box, setting up major= domo.=20 Like what is the best platform to
use with majordomo. What else will I need = besides=20 Unix and the connection and
majordomo.
 
As I am basic familiar with majordomo I ha= ve setup=20 thru a hosting account that already
has the box, unix etc I just had to fill i= n a few=20 parameters and away I went.
 
I hope that someone on the list can help, = maybe=20 even better someone in the Denver area can help with implementing such a ta= sk. I=20 know nothing is free so I am willing to pay for such a service as help doin= g=20 it.
 
Please any info and help is=20 appreciated.
 
Jonathan Amo
 
------=_NextPart_000_0113_01C3EB55.DFC4A5A0-- From majordomo-users-owner@greatcircle.com Wed Feb 4 21:00:51 2004 Received: from imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.66]) by mycroft.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0946A569F5 for ; Wed, 4 Feb 2004 18:45:49 -0800 (PST) Received: from castle.cis.uab.edu ([68.220.214.254]) by imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with ESMTP id <20040205024545.VYFL1950.imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net@castle.cis.uab.edu>; Wed, 4 Feb 2004 21:45:45 -0500 Message-Id: <6.0.1.1.2.20040204204656.01fe4310@localhost> X-Sender: fran@localhost X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 6.0.1.1 Date: Wed, 04 Feb 2004 20:47:34 -0600 To: "Joe R. Jah" , Lee From: Fran Fabrizio Subject: Re: Dealing with all those 'help requests' due to spam Cc: major In-Reply-To: References: <20040204203657.27218.qmail@web60202.mail.yahoo.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; x-avg-checked=avg-ok-1BC55F84; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Archive-Number: 200402/15 X-Sequence-Number: 4378 > > > Reading a recent reply to a list message here from Dan, I've decided > > to set up an arduous filter system to help me keep track of the > > addresses 'spamming' my majordomo. They generate many, many 'command > > not understood' errors thus sending out the help file ... which > > bounces back .... etc ..... My aim is to create a blacklist which Dan > > referred to, which I could then forward to my majordomo host for > > adding to the system. Ah - this is the problem I posted about a few days back, I just didn't realize the ramifications of what I was seeing and what was happening. >Take a look at this, and see if you can convince your Majordomo host to >apply it. > > ftp://ftp.ccsf.org/majordomo-patches/1.94.5/noCommand_noBounce.0 I too will be trying this patch on our server. Thanks! -Fran Fran Fabrizio Senior Systems Analyst Department of Computer and Information Sciences University of Alabama - Birmingham fran@cis.uab.edu (205) 934-0653 From majordomo-users-owner@greatcircle.com Thu Feb 5 03:02:16 2004 Received: from mail.cableone.net (scanmail3.cableone.net [24.116.0.123]) by mycroft.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0578256590 for ; Thu, 5 Feb 2004 01:44:24 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail.sonny.com (unverified [24.116.58.25]) by smail3.cableone.net (SurgeMail 1.5d2) with ESMTP id 5366700 for multiple; Thu, 05 Feb 2004 02:35:20 -0700 Received: from sonny.org ([206.124.66.107]) (authenticated bits=0) by mail.sonny.com (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id i159iDBc021185 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5 bits=128 verify=NO); Thu, 5 Feb 2004 03:44:14 -0600 Message-ID: <40221067.1080800@sonny.org> Date: Thu, 05 Feb 2004 03:44:07 -0600 From: Daniel Liston Organization: Sun Microsystems Inc. User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.6b) Gecko/20031216 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Jonathan Amo Cc: majordomo-users@greatcircle.com Subject: Re: Server Help References: <011601c3eb90$8c8a07a0$6401a8c0@landracing> In-Reply-To: <011601c3eb90$8c8a07a0$6401a8c0@landracing> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Server: High Performance Mail Server - http://surgemail.com X-Archive-Number: 200402/16 X-Sequence-Number: 4379 What OS to run is partially dependent on what Hardware you have. While installing *n*x/*BSD has become somewhat easy, do not be mislead into thinking you are ready to connect to the internet. Before anyone connects their private system to the public net, they should be aware of the level of hostility. I have heard stories of windows XP machines getting on the net without a firewall, just to get security patches from the microsoft down load site, and get hacked before they get the first patch. I personally had a similar experience with my first install of RedHat 7.0 linux. I no more than finished installing from CD (while I had a network cable connected), and someone had already begun to install a root kit. Needless to say, I had to reformat my drive and start over, which was easier than trying to trace any trojans. I assume you will be dedicating an intel based machine to this service. You plan to operate behind a firewall. Your mail server will not relay mail for any system but your own. You have a domain name registered and someone to manage your NS and MX records for you in DNS. Also, while 20-50 messaging coming into your list may not seem like much, the more your subscriber base grows, the more strain this will put on your CPU and bandwidth. Imagine if you had 100 users on your list, that 20-50 messages turns into 2000-5000 just for outgoing distribution. You should probably just take baby steps for now, leaving your list hosted where it is and managing it remotely, while you get comfortable learning or discovering a unix environment of your own. In a few weeks or months, if you feel you are ready for the responsibilities of system administration and good netizenship, plug into the net as a user. If you get hacked, disconnect, back up data, and start over again, learning from mistakes or weakness in your configuration. If you do not get hacked, or just don't notice, start with simple services and monitor your network traffic very carefully. I do not want to scare you, but if I compare running a mailling list server to driving a car, you can't expect to be safe your first time out. Learn where the brake is before you step on the gas. Learn where each safety device is and how to use it before you get on a superhiway during rush hour traffic. Dan Liston Jonathan Amo wrote: > Hello All, > > I know there is a wealth of information on this list so I am posting > this question. > > I would like to house a majordomo server for one email list this list > only gathers about 20-50 emails a day so. I would like this server to be > in my home. I assume my cable connection is most adequate to serve this. Maybe, maybe not. How fast is the cablemodem? How fast is your computer? How much memory is in it. How many people are or will be subscribed to your list? Do you intend to prevent or spread spam? > > I have a computer and connection to do this. But I will need very > detailed help > on setting up a unix box, setting up majordomo. Like what is the best > platform to > use with majordomo. What else will I need besides Unix and the > connection and > majordomo. Familiarity with DNS, MTAs, networking, and firewalls would be good. Will there only be one box connected to the internet? Will your connection be shared by other PCs/laptops/workstations in your house? > > As I am basic familiar with majordomo I have setup thru a hosting > account that already > has the box, unix etc I just had to fill in a few parameters and away I > went. Be adventurous, explore, and have fun, but be careful. There is a huge difference from running one application on a hosted server and being the only party responsible for everything on your own server. > > I hope that someone on the list can help, maybe even better someone in > the Denver area can help with implementing such a task. I know nothing > is free so I am willing to pay for such a service as help doing it. > > Please any info and help is appreciated. > > Jonathan Amo Good luck, Dan Liston From majordomo-users-owner@greatcircle.com Thu Feb 5 05:11:19 2004 Received: from web60206.mail.yahoo.com (web60206.mail.yahoo.com [216.109.118.101]) by mycroft.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with SMTP id 856CE559E7 for ; Thu, 5 Feb 2004 04:37:23 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <20040205123722.50000.qmail@web60206.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [81.128.38.77] by web60206.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Thu, 05 Feb 2004 12:37:22 GMT Date: Thu, 5 Feb 2004 12:37:22 +0000 (GMT) From: =?iso-8859-1?q?Lee?= Subject: Re: Server Help To: major In-Reply-To: <011601c3eb90$8c8a07a0$6401a8c0@landracing> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0-1401097046-1075984642=:48446" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Archive-Number: 200402/17 X-Sequence-Number: 4380 --0-1401097046-1075984642=:48446 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Hello jonathan, It's often simpler to pay a modest fee per month for web hosting on a shared or dedicated server - the latter is more expensive! I'm sure many on this list can advise on such services. However, never launch into such an agreement without rigorously checking on here and with your planned server that you can definitely get the necessary root, shell, telnet or ssh access that you may need to set up AND USE something like majordomo on it. Otherwise, you really are launching into a minefield of access and remailing troubles. lee Jonathan Amo wrote: Hello All, I know there is a wealth of information on this list so I am posting this question. I would like to house a majordomo server for one email list this list only gathers about 20-50 emails a day so. I would like this server to be in my home. I assume my cable connection is most adequate to serve this. I have a computer and connection to do this. But I will need very detailed help on setting up a unix box, setting up majordomo. Like what is the best platform to use with majordomo. What else will I need besides Unix and the connection and majordomo. As I am basic familiar with majordomo I have setup thru a hosting account that already has the box, unix etc I just had to fill in a few parameters and away I went. I hope that someone on the list can help, maybe even better someone in the Denver area can help with implementing such a task. I know nothing is free so I am willing to pay for such a service as help doing it. Please any info and help is appreciated. Jonathan Amo --------------------------------- BT Yahoo! Broadband - Free modem offer, sign up online today and save £80 --0-1401097046-1075984642=:48446 Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit
Hello jonathan,
 
It's often simpler to pay a modest fee per month for web hosting on a shared or dedicated server - the latter is more expensive!
I'm sure many on this list can advise on such services.
 
However, never launch into such an agreement without rigorously checking on here and with your planned server that you can definitely get the necessary root, shell, telnet or ssh access that you may need to set up AND USE something like majordomo on it. Otherwise, you really are launching into a minefield of access and remailing troubles.
 
lee


Jonathan Amo <jonamo@landracing.com> wrote:
Hello All,
 
I know there is a wealth of information on this list so I am posting this question.
 
I would like to house a majordomo server for one email list this list only gathers about 20-50 emails a day so. I would like this server to be in my home. I assume my cable connection is most adequate to serve this.
 
I have a computer and connection to do this. But I will need very detailed help
on setting up a unix box, setting up majordomo. Like what is the best platform to
use with majordomo. What else will I need besides Unix and the connection and
majordomo.
 
As I am basic familiar with majordomo I have setup thru a hosting account that already
has the box, unix etc I just had to fill in a few parameters and away I went.
 
I hope that someone on the list can help, maybe even better someone in the Denver area can help with implementing such a task. I know nothing is free so I am willing to pay for such a service as help doing it.
 
Please any info and help is appreciated.
 
Jonathan Amo
 

BT Yahoo! Broadband - Free modem offer, sign up online today and save £80 --0-1401097046-1075984642=:48446-- From majordomo-users-owner@greatcircle.com Thu Feb 5 11:29:57 2004 Received: from exchange.humber.ca (exchange.humber.ca [192.75.71.6]) by mycroft.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D46E354EFE for ; Thu, 5 Feb 2004 11:29:08 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (leoa0955@localhost) by hal.humberc.on.ca (AIX4.3/8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA50200 for ; Thu, 5 Feb 2004 14:29:02 -0500 Date: Thu, 5 Feb 2004 14:29:02 -0500 (EST) From: "AL Leo" To: majordomo-users@greatcircle.com Subject: majordomo_version.pl in @INC Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Archive-Number: 200402/18 X-Sequence-Number: 4381 Majordomo Version 1.94.5 (new install) Perl Version 5.8.0 OS: RedHat 8.0 Mailer: Sendmail Version 8.12.8-9 I can run ./wrapper config-test as root/majordomo with out any problems but if I try and run it as a different user it gives me the following error message: ------------------------------------------------------------- Good: 'require'd /opt/majordomo-1.94.5/majordomo.cf okay. Good: found ctime.pl okay. Can't locate majordomo_version.pl in @INC (@INC contains: /usr/lib/perl5/5.8.0/i386-linux-thread-multi /usr/lib/perl5/5.8.0 /usr/lib/perl5/site_perl/5.8.0/i386-linux-thread-multi /usr/lib/perl5/site_perl/5.8.0 /usr/lib/perl5/site_perl /usr/lib/perl5/vendor_perl/5.8.0/i386-linux-thread-multi /usr/lib/perl5/vendor_perl/5.8.0 /usr/lib/perl5/vendor_perl /usr/lib/perl5/5.8.0/i386-linux-thread-multi /usr/lib/perl5/5.8.0 .) at /opt/majordomo-1.94.5/config-test line 129. majordomo_version.pl is in the same directory as majordomo.cf so I'm not sure why its not locating the file. Any help would be appreciated Thanks, From majordomo-users-owner@greatcircle.com Thu Feb 5 12:01:19 2004 Received: from iaibr1.iai.int (iaibr1.iai.int [150.163.35.1]) by mycroft.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D7607534C6 for ; Thu, 5 Feb 2004 12:00:47 -0800 (PST) Received: from dir.iai.int (vmware.iai.int [150.163.35.17]) (authenticated bits=0) by iaibr1.iai.int (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id i15K0klw005820 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5 bits=128 verify=OK) for ; Thu, 5 Feb 2004 18:00:47 -0200 Message-ID: <4022A03C.3070806@dir.iai.int> Date: Thu, 05 Feb 2004 17:57:48 -0200 From: Luis Marcelo Achite Organization: Inter-American Institute for Global Change Research, IAI User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.6) Gecko/20040113 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Majordomo-Users@GreatCircle.COM Subject: Problem with majordomo (duplicate messages) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Archive-Number: 200402/19 X-Sequence-Number: 4382 Hello, Do you know why my majordomo program tends to duplicate messages I send to bigger lists (more than 2000 emails)?? When I send a message, its ok for the first time, but after some minutes, the system creates another queue item with the same message and begin again to send messages to the 2000 emails. Someone know whats is going on here? REgards, Luis Marcelo Achite * What version of Majordomo you are using 1.94.5 * What version of Perl you are using 5.6.1 * What operating system and version you are using Redhat 7.1 * What mailer (Sendmail, SMail, qmail, etc.) Sendmail last version. ############################################################### Luis Marcelo Achite Information Technology Manager Inter-American Institute for Global Change Research - IAI Avenida dos Astronautas, 1758, Jardim da Granja 12227-010 Sao Jose dos Campos - Sao Paulo - Brazil Phone: (55-12) 3945-6868 Fax: (55-12) 3941-4410 e-mail : lmachite@dir.iai.int ############################################################### From majordomo-users-owner@greatcircle.com Thu Feb 5 16:00:17 2004 Received: from tomts22-srv.bellnexxia.net (tomts22.bellnexxia.net [209.226.175.184]) by mycroft.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 22F40532DA for ; Thu, 5 Feb 2004 15:59:56 -0800 (PST) Received: from acer.sympatico.ca ([65.93.71.103]) by tomts22-srv.bellnexxia.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with ESMTP id <20040205235954.RVXG26187.tomts22-srv.bellnexxia.net@acer.sympatico.ca> for ; Thu, 5 Feb 2004 18:59:54 -0500 Message-Id: <5.2.1.1.0.20040205184718.00a26950@pop6.sympatico.ca> X-Sender: b1wudu74@pop6.sympatico.ca X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.1 Date: Thu, 05 Feb 2004 18:51:42 -0500 To: Majordomo-Users@GreatCircle.COM From: Frank Bax Subject: Re: Problem with majordomo (duplicate messages) In-Reply-To: <4022A03C.3070806@dir.iai.int> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed X-Archive-Number: 200402/20 X-Sequence-Number: 4383 At 02:57 PM 2/5/04, Luis Marcelo Achite wrote: >Do you know why my majordomo program tends to duplicate messages I send >to bigger lists (more than 2000 emails)?? When I send a message, its ok >for the first time, but after some minutes, the system creates another >queue item with the same message and begin again to send messages to the >2000 emails. Someone know whats is going on here? Look very closely at the headers of the second "duplicate" message to be sure which system is causing the duplicates. I once had a subscriber that simply redirected messages back to the list. It was done in such a way that the "From" line still had the original approved email addres so that majoedomo accepted it. Got into a loop pretty fast with that one. Spotted the problem because the supposedly "duplicate" message had a long list of "Received" headers showing it trip out and back again. From majordomo-users-owner@greatcircle.com Fri Feb 6 07:14:28 2004 Received: from exchange.humber.ca (exchange.humber.ca [192.75.71.6]) by mycroft.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C29E856162 for ; Fri, 6 Feb 2004 07:12:17 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (leoa0955@localhost) by hal.humberc.on.ca (AIX4.3/8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA15538 for ; Fri, 6 Feb 2004 10:12:15 -0500 Date: Fri, 6 Feb 2004 10:12:14 -0500 (EST) From: "AL Leo" To: majordomo-users@greatcircle.com Subject: Re: majordomo_version.pl in @INC In-Reply-To: Message-ID: References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Archive-Number: 200402/21 X-Sequence-Number: 4384 Hello, I figured out what my problem was with the permission (for newbs like me out there) make sure you you have the files/directory permission set properly. But now I'm getting a different error message which I beleive is sendmail that is my problem but not sure how to deal with it. I believe its sendmail security(FEATURE(smrsh)?) that I need to change but not sure how. Anyone have any suggestions on how to bypass the security settings in sendmail? Thanks, > Majordomo Version 1.94.5 (new install) > Perl Version 5.8.0 > OS: RedHat 8.0 > Mailer: Sendmail Version 8.12.8-9 > > I can run ./wrapper config-test as root/majordomo with out any problems > but if I try and run it as a different user it gives me the following > error message: > > ------------------------------------------------------------- > Good: 'require'd /opt/majordomo-1.94.5/majordomo.cf okay. > Good: found ctime.pl okay. > Can't locate majordomo_version.pl in @INC (@INC contains: > /usr/lib/perl5/5.8.0/i386-linux-thread-multi /usr/lib/perl5/5.8.0 > /usr/lib/perl5/site_perl/5.8.0/i386-linux-thread-multi > /usr/lib/perl5/site_perl/5.8.0 /usr/lib/perl5/site_perl > /usr/lib/perl5/vendor_perl/5.8.0/i386-linux-thread-multi > /usr/lib/perl5/vendor_perl/5.8.0 /usr/lib/perl5/vendor_perl > /usr/lib/perl5/5.8.0/i386-linux-thread-multi /usr/lib/perl5/5.8.0 .) at > /opt/majordomo-1.94.5/config-test line 129. > > > majordomo_version.pl is in the same directory as majordomo.cf so I'm not > sure why its not locating the file. > > Any help would be appreciated > Thanks, > From majordomo-users-owner@greatcircle.com Fri Feb 6 19:16:40 2004 Received: from mail.cableone.net (scanmail3.cableone.net [24.116.0.123]) by mycroft.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B02ED509CD for ; Fri, 6 Feb 2004 19:16:15 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail.sonny.com (unverified [24.116.58.25]) by smail3.cableone.net (SurgeMail 1.5d2) with ESMTP id 5746850 for multiple; Fri, 06 Feb 2004 20:07:14 -0700 Received: from sonny.org (dad.liston.nu [192.168.1.60]) (authenticated bits=0) by mail.sonny.com (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id i173G4Bc032696 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5 bits=128 verify=OK); Fri, 6 Feb 2004 21:16:09 -0600 Message-ID: <402458A1.1020008@sonny.org> Date: Fri, 06 Feb 2004 21:16:49 -0600 From: Daniel Liston User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.4) Gecko/20030624 Netscape/7.1 (ax) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: AL Leo Cc: majordomo-users@greatcircle.com Subject: Re: majordomo_version.pl in @INC References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Server: High Performance Mail Server - http://surgemail.com X-Archive-Number: 200402/22 X-Sequence-Number: 4385 Rather than "bypass" the security in sendmail, why don't you abide by it? Make sure there are no Group or World write permissions on the directory. Create a link to your wrapper in the proper smrsh directory. You can find out what directory to use by locating smrsh (the binary) and doing a strings command on it with a grep for "/smrsh". Dan Liston AL Leo wrote: > Hello, > > I figured out what my problem was with the permission (for newbs like me > out there) make sure you you have the files/directory permission set > properly. But now I'm getting a different error message which I beleive > is sendmail that is my problem but not sure how to deal with it. I > believe its sendmail security(FEATURE(smrsh)?) that I need to change but > not sure how. Anyone have any suggestions on how to bypass the security > settings in sendmail? > > Thanks, > > >>Majordomo Version 1.94.5 (new install) >>Perl Version 5.8.0 >>OS: RedHat 8.0 >>Mailer: Sendmail Version 8.12.8-9 >> >>I can run ./wrapper config-test as root/majordomo with out any problems >>but if I try and run it as a different user it gives me the following >>error message: >> >>------------------------------------------------------------- >>Good: 'require'd /opt/majordomo-1.94.5/majordomo.cf okay. >>Good: found ctime.pl okay. >>Can't locate majordomo_version.pl in @INC (@INC contains: >>/usr/lib/perl5/5.8.0/i386-linux-thread-multi /usr/lib/perl5/5.8.0 >>/usr/lib/perl5/site_perl/5.8.0/i386-linux-thread-multi >>/usr/lib/perl5/site_perl/5.8.0 /usr/lib/perl5/site_perl >>/usr/lib/perl5/vendor_perl/5.8.0/i386-linux-thread-multi >>/usr/lib/perl5/vendor_perl/5.8.0 /usr/lib/perl5/vendor_perl >>/usr/lib/perl5/5.8.0/i386-linux-thread-multi /usr/lib/perl5/5.8.0 .) at >>/opt/majordomo-1.94.5/config-test line 129. >> >> >>majordomo_version.pl is in the same directory as majordomo.cf so I'm not >>sure why its not locating the file. >> >>Any help would be appreciated >>Thanks, >> From majordomo-users-owner@greatcircle.com Fri Feb 6 19:27:13 2004 Received: from mail.cableone.net (scanmail3.cableone.net [24.116.0.123]) by mycroft.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 26E2755CFD for ; Fri, 6 Feb 2004 19:20:02 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail.sonny.com (unverified [24.116.58.25]) by smail3.cableone.net (SurgeMail 1.5d2) with ESMTP id 5747701 for multiple; Fri, 06 Feb 2004 20:11:01 -0700 Received: from sonny.org (dad.liston.nu [192.168.1.60]) (authenticated bits=0) by mail.sonny.com (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id i173JsBc032708 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5 bits=128 verify=OK); Fri, 6 Feb 2004 21:19:57 -0600 Message-ID: <40245987.1020302@sonny.org> Date: Fri, 06 Feb 2004 21:20:39 -0600 From: Daniel Liston User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.4) Gecko/20030624 Netscape/7.1 (ax) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Luis Marcelo Achite Cc: Majordomo-Users@greatcircle.com Subject: Re: Problem with majordomo (duplicate messages) References: <4022A03C.3070806@dir.iai.int> In-Reply-To: <4022A03C.3070806@dir.iai.int> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Server: High Performance Mail Server - http://surgemail.com X-Archive-Number: 200402/23 X-Sequence-Number: 4386 Most likely, your sendmail is checking/emptying the queue too often to keep up with your list's activity. Try turning down the queue run to 60 minutes. Dan Liston PS. Sendmail version can be found with "sendmail -d0" followed by ctrl-d Luis Marcelo Achite wrote: > Hello, > Do you know why my majordomo program tends to duplicate messages I send > to bigger lists (more than 2000 emails)?? When I send a message, its ok > for the first time, but after some minutes, the system creates another > queue item with the same message and begin again to send messages to the > 2000 emails. Someone know whats is going on here? > REgards, > Luis Marcelo Achite > > * What version of Majordomo you are using > 1.94.5 > > * What version of Perl you are using > 5.6.1 > > * What operating system and version you are using > Redhat 7.1 > > * What mailer (Sendmail, SMail, qmail, etc.) > Sendmail last version. > > ############################################################### > Luis Marcelo Achite > Information Technology Manager > Inter-American Institute for Global Change Research - IAI > Avenida dos Astronautas, 1758, Jardim da Granja > 12227-010 Sao Jose dos Campos - Sao Paulo - Brazil > Phone: (55-12) 3945-6868 Fax: (55-12) 3941-4410 > e-mail : lmachite@dir.iai.int > ############################################################### From majordomo-users-owner@greatcircle.com Wed Feb 11 12:22:15 2004 Received: from defiant.emacolet.com (defiant.emacolet.com [68.156.178.165]) by mycroft.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4674D5CCAA for ; Wed, 11 Feb 2004 11:30:19 -0800 (PST) Received: from akelalt ([10.21.9.1]) (authenticated bits=0) by defiant.emacolet.com (8.12.10/8.12.8) with ESMTP id i1BJU51v012778 for ; Wed, 11 Feb 2004 14:30:06 -0500 (EST) Reply-To: From: "Peter P. Benac" To: Subject: Is there a away Date: Wed, 11 Feb 2004 14:30:02 -0500 Organization: Emacolet Networking Services, Inc Message-ID: <000401c3f0d5$7259bd90$0109150a@akelalt> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.4510 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Importance: Normal X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.37 X-Archive-Number: 200402/24 X-Sequence-Number: 4387 Greetings, I run a few technical mail lists where one or more members of the lists are harvesting e-mail addresses from the headers of messages sent to the lists. Unfortunately it's not obvious who they are. I have closed the list so that no one can just get the members of the list, but what I want to know if there is a way to stop the originators e-mail address from being seen in the From: line and just have the Majordomo address shown (i.e. Majordomo-Users@greatcircle.com and not Majordomo-Users@greatcircle.com on behalf of (ppbenac@emacolet.com)=20=20 Regards, Pete ---- Peter P. Benac, CCNA Emacolet Networking Services, Inc Providing Systems and Network Consulting, Training, Web Hosting Services Phone: 919-847-1740 or 866-701-2345 Web: http://www.emacolet.com Need quick reliable Systems or Network Management advice visit http://www.nmsusers.org To have principles... First have courage.. With principles comes integrity!!! From majordomo-users-owner@greatcircle.com Wed Feb 11 19:51:01 2004 Received: from soln-sr234.solutionip.com (unknown [64.140.24.194]) by mycroft.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4BBCE55232 for ; Wed, 11 Feb 2004 19:50:47 -0800 (PST) Received: from [10.0.0.182] (helo=sonny.org) by soln-sr234.solutionip.com with esmtp (Exim 3.34 #1) id 1Ar7rx-0005Dy-00; Wed, 11 Feb 2004 21:50:29 -0600 Message-ID: <402AF804.50404@sonny.org> Date: Wed, 11 Feb 2004 21:50:28 -0600 From: Daniel Liston Organization: Sun Microsystems Inc. User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.6) Gecko/20040113 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: ppbenac@emacolet.com Cc: Majordomo-Users@greatcircle.com Subject: Re: Is there a away References: <000401c3f0d5$7259bd90$0109150a@akelalt> In-Reply-To: <000401c3f0d5$7259bd90$0109150a@akelalt> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Archive-Number: 200402/25 X-Sequence-Number: 4388 To prevent the "on behalf of" from showing in your messages, there are edits required to the majordomo perl scripts. I do not recall the specifics, but it has been discussed here at least once a year. Search on "resend", "sender", and "on behalf of" to find the message(s) you are looking for. Dan liston Peter P. Benac wrote: > Greetings, > > I run a few technical mail lists where one or more members of the lists > are harvesting e-mail addresses from the headers of messages sent to the > lists. Unfortunately it's not obvious who they are. > > I have closed the list so that no one can just get the members of the > list, but what I want to know if there is a way to stop the originators > e-mail address from being seen in the From: line and just have the Majordomo > address shown (i.e. Majordomo-Users@greatcircle.com and not > Majordomo-Users@greatcircle.com on behalf of (ppbenac@emacolet.com) > > Regards, > Pete > ---- > Peter P. Benac, CCNA > Emacolet Networking Services, Inc > Providing Systems and Network Consulting, Training, Web Hosting Services > Phone: 919-847-1740 or 866-701-2345 > Web: http://www.emacolet.com > Need quick reliable Systems or Network Management advice visit > http://www.nmsusers.org > > To have principles... > First have courage.. With principles comes integrity!!! > > From majordomo-users-owner@greatcircle.com Wed Feb 11 20:22:58 2004 Received: from mailbox.onlinepolicy.net (mailbox.onlinepolicy.net [64.62.161.194]) by mycroft.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id EFFD7515C3 for ; Wed, 11 Feb 2004 20:22:22 -0800 (PST) Received: by mailbox.onlinepolicy.net (Postfix, from userid 504) id B959E168C7C; Wed, 11 Feb 2004 20:03:48 -0800 (PST) Received: from queernet.org (c-24-16-147-19.client.comcast.net [24.16.147.19]) by mailbox.onlinepolicy.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9095F168C7B; Wed, 11 Feb 2004 20:03:47 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <402AFF79.6080407@queernet.org> Date: Wed, 11 Feb 2004 20:22:17 -0800 From: "Roger B.A. Klorese" User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 0.5b (Windows/20040130) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Daniel Liston Cc: ppbenac@emacolet.com, Majordomo-Users@greatcircle.com Subject: Re: Is there a away References: <000401c3f0d5$7259bd90$0109150a@akelalt> <402AF804.50404@sonny.org> In-Reply-To: <402AF804.50404@sonny.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Archive-Number: 200402/26 X-Sequence-Number: 4389 Daniel Liston wrote: > To prevent the "on behalf of" from showing in your messages, > there are edits required to the majordomo perl scripts. I > do not recall the specifics, but it has been discussed here > at least once a year. Search on "resend", "sender", and > "on behalf of" to find the message(s) you are looking for. He's asking the opposite -- not how to remove the list's name but how to remove the sender's name. Majordomo isn't really built to replace the originator's address with the list's, and RFC's don't really allow it -- after all, the message *is* from the author. The software didn't compose it by itself. In addition, doing this makes it impossible for anyone to reply directly to the poster, or even know who they are -- not much at building community, or keeping side-chatter off the list. It you insist on doing so, you *might* be able to add a forged From: in the message_headers option and remove the From: header in the remove_headers section of the config. Of course, that will only work if they're applied in the correct order... From majordomo-users-owner@greatcircle.com Mon Feb 16 11:35:59 2004 Received: from hotmail.com (bay12-f107.bay12.hotmail.com [64.4.35.107]) by mycroft.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id BA8A951327 for ; Mon, 16 Feb 2004 11:35:40 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Mon, 16 Feb 2004 11:35:40 -0800 Received: from 208.216.217.174 by by12fd.bay12.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Mon, 16 Feb 2004 19:35:40 GMT X-Originating-IP: [208.216.217.174] X-Originating-Email: [zebo51@hotmail.com] X-Sender: zebo51@hotmail.com From: "Racer Guy" To: majordomo-users@greatcircle.com Subject: Will Majordomo run on a Windows Machine? Date: Mon, 16 Feb 2004 19:35:40 +0000 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 16 Feb 2004 19:35:40.0499 (UTC) FILETIME=[0F5C7230:01C3F4C4] X-Archive-Number: 200402/27 X-Sequence-Number: 4390 I found the archives, but did not see a search option, so maybe someone can help me with an already probably covered topic. I read that it is written in Perl and I know you can install perl on a windows machine. Has anyone gotten Majordomo to work on Windows 2K or 2K3? If so, anything special I need to know or look out for? If there are any resources on the internet about getting it to work under Windows, that would be helpful too. Will Majordomo worth with an Exchange email server to handle the messages? Thanks _________________________________________________________________ Optimize your Internet experience to the max with the new MSN Premium Internet Software. http://click.atdmt.com/AVE/go/onm00200359ave/direct/01/ From majordomo-users-owner@greatcircle.com Mon Feb 16 13:22:01 2004 Received: from cloud.ccsf.cc.ca.us (cloud.ccsf.cc.ca.us [147.144.1.212]) by mycroft.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id EA8EF50A8A for ; Mon, 16 Feb 2004 13:21:52 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (jjah@localhost) by cloud.ccsf.cc.ca.us (8.11.6/8.11.2) with ESMTP id i1GLKb316491; Mon, 16 Feb 2004 13:20:37 -0800 (PST) Date: Mon, 16 Feb 2004 13:20:37 -0800 (PST) From: "Joe R. Jah" To: Racer Guy Cc: majordomo-users@greatcircle.com Subject: Re: Will Majordomo run on a Windows Machine? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Archive-Number: 200402/28 X-Sequence-Number: 4391 On Mon, 16 Feb 2004, Racer Guy wrote: > Date: Mon, 16 Feb 2004 19:35:40 +0000 > From: Racer Guy > To: majordomo-users@greatcircle.com > Subject: Will Majordomo run on a Windows Machine? > > I found the archives, but did not see a search option, so maybe someone can On Tue, 14 Oct 2003, Brent Chapman wrote: > Date: Tue, 14 Oct 2003 11:09:26 -0700 > From: Brent Chapman > To: Just Another MD Owner , majordomo-users@greatcircle.com > Subject: Re: Is there a Searchable Archive for this List? [snip] > How about Google? Just add the following to your search terms: > > +site:www.greatcircle.com +majordomo-users > > That should restrict your results to stuff from this list's archive. [snip] > Thanks Regards, Joe -- _/ _/_/_/ _/ ____________ __o _/ _/ _/ _/ ______________ _-\<,_ _/ _/ _/_/_/ _/ _/ ......(_)/ (_) _/_/ oe _/ _/. _/_/ ah jjah@cloud.ccsf.cc.ca.us From majordomo-users-owner@greatcircle.com Mon Feb 16 23:22:01 2004 Received: from soln-sr234.solutionip.com (unknown [64.140.24.194]) by mycroft.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8F79A54B57 for ; Mon, 16 Feb 2004 23:21:43 -0800 (PST) Received: from [64.140.24.212] (helo=sonny.org) by soln-sr234.solutionip.com with esmtp (Exim 3.34 #1) id 1AszTC-000117-00; Tue, 17 Feb 2004 01:16:38 -0600 Message-ID: <4031C2A7.2090809@sonny.org> Date: Tue, 17 Feb 2004 01:28:39 -0600 From: Daniel Liston Organization: Sun Microsystems Inc. User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.6) Gecko/20040113 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Racer Guy Cc: majordomo-users@greatcircle.com Subject: Re: Will Majordomo run on a Windows Machine? References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Archive-Number: 200402/29 X-Sequence-Number: 4392 Racer Guy wrote: > I found the archives, but did not see a search option, so maybe someone > can help me with an already probably covered topic. I read that it is > written in Perl and I know you can install perl on a windows machine. Majordomo depends on being called via the aliases file in unix. If there is such an equivalent in windows installed with perl, perhaps. > > Has anyone gotten Majordomo to work on Windows 2K or 2K3? By installing cygwin (unix under windows) maybe. Sendmail is reported to work using this configuration, as does perl, so this might be your best bet. Regardless, this is not a "true" windows configuration. > > If so, anything special I need to know or look out for? I have been on this list for over 5 years, and have never head of anyone successfully accomplishing this task. Some have come close, but going back through the archives to 1996, I only found one claim of success, followed shortly after my an admission of failure. > > If there are any resources on the internet about getting it to work > under Windows, that would be helpful too. Google is your friend, as are other search engines. > > Will Majordomo worth with an Exchange email server to handle the messages? > Sorry, I doubt you will find much Exchange knowledge regarding majordomo. Let's assume you get aliases working with exchange, such that you can call or execute perl scripts from them. The wrapper was introduced to sendmail environments to create a level of security. This could be an issue in w2k or w2k3 too. On the bright side, I have seen majordomo modified to work with Netscape mail in unix. Maybe this is a path that could be explored, since this was also released for windows. There is still the issue of paths being translated from /directory/subdirectory to drive:\directory\subdirectory though. On another dark side, if you follow the google that Joe sent, you will find some rather cold remarks made by myself that could have been more constructive. Dan Liston From majordomo-users-owner@greatcircle.com Fri Feb 20 12:48:28 2004 Received: from exchange.pro-cs.com (ip-64-139-49-131.sjc.megapath.net [64.139.49.131]) by mycroft.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D6B2D5325A for ; Fri, 20 Feb 2004 12:48:06 -0800 (PST) Content-Class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----_=_NextPart_001_01C3F7F2.D7C4FC1C" Subject: restrict_post not working X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.0.6375.0 Date: Fri, 20 Feb 2004 12:48:07 -0800 Message-ID: <076BFCC511F46C4EA3799CADC564EA0F0BF95A@exchange.pro-cs.com> X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: restrict_post not working Thread-Index: AcP38tfXBUGquP13QNetk8CxHXUbMg== From: "Samuel Mauntz" To: X-Archive-Number: 200402/30 X-Sequence-Number: 4393 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------_=_NextPart_001_01C3F7F2.D7C4FC1C Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I have a list that I want to restrict posting to. What I have done is crea= ted List1(my list) and L2(a list containing the users I want to be allowed = to post to L1). I edited restrict_post in L1.config to contain the following line... =20 restrict_post =3D L2 =20 However, I can still post to L1 from email addresses not in the L2 list. D= oes anyone know why restrict_post might now be working? ------------------------------------------------- * Samuel Mauntz * * email: samuel@pro-cs.com * * phone: (510) 249-0440 * * fax: (510) 249-0441 * * web: http://www.pro-cs.com * ------------------------------------------------- =20 ------_=_NextPart_001_01C3F7F2.D7C4FC1C Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
I have a = list that I=20 want to restrict posting to.  What I have done is created List1(my lis= t)=20 and L2(a=20 list containing the users I want to be allowed to post to=20 L1).
I edited= =20 restrict_post in L1.config to contain the following line...
 
restrict_= post =3D=20 L2
 
However, = I can still=20 post to L1 from email addresses not in the L2 list.  Does anyone know = why=20 restrict_post might now be working?

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------_=_NextPart_001_01C3F7F2.D7C4FC1C-- From majordomo-users-owner@greatcircle.com Fri Feb 20 13:00:41 2004 Received: from jas.peak.org (jas.peak.org [206.163.129.210]) by mycroft.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id AD91D53CEF for ; Fri, 20 Feb 2004 12:59:08 -0800 (PST) Received: from jas.peak.org (sechrest@localhost) by jas.peak.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id i1KKuEk30131; Fri, 20 Feb 2004 12:56:14 -0800 Message-Id: <200402202056.i1KKuEk30131@jas.peak.org> To: "Samuel Mauntz" Cc: majordomo-users@greatcircle.com Subject: Re: restrict_post not working In-reply-to: Your message of Fri, 20 Feb 2004 12:48:07 PST. <076BFCC511F46C4EA3799CADC564EA0F0BF95A@exchange.pro-cs.com> Date: Fri, 20 Feb 2004 12:56:14 -0800 From: John Sechrest X-Archive-Number: 200402/31 X-Sequence-Number: 4394 I use exactly this method and it works fine. So some more debugging is probably needed. "Samuel Mauntz" writes: % This is a multi-part message in MIME format. % % ------_=_NextPart_001_01C3F7F2.D7C4FC1C % Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" % Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable % % I have a list that I want to restrict posting to. What I have done is crea= % ted List1(my list) and L2(a list containing the users I want to be allowed = % to post to L1). % I edited restrict_post in L1.config to contain the following line... % =20 % restrict_post =3D L2 % =20 % However, I can still post to L1 from email addresses not in the L2 list. D= % oes anyone know why restrict_post might now be working? % ------------------------------------------------- % % * Samuel Mauntz * % % * email: samuel@pro-cs.com * % % * phone: (510) 249-0440 * % % * fax: (510) 249-0441 * % % * web: http://www.pro-cs.com * % % ------------------------------------------------- % % =20 % % ------_=_NextPart_001_01C3F7F2.D7C4FC1C % Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" % Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable % % % % % % % % %
I have a = % list that I=20 % want to restrict posting to.  What I have done is created List1(my lis= % t)=20 % and L2(a=20 % list containing the users I want to be allowed to post to=20 % L1).
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% % ------_=_NextPart_001_01C3F7F2.D7C4FC1C-- ----- John Sechrest . Helping people use . computers and the Internet . more effectively . . Internet: sechrest@peak.org . . http://www.peak.org/~sechrest From majordomo-users-owner@greatcircle.com Fri Feb 20 14:02:33 2004 Received: from exchange.pro-cs.com (ip-64-139-49-131.sjc.megapath.net [64.139.49.131]) by mycroft.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9B3BB51C38 for ; Fri, 20 Feb 2004 14:02:18 -0800 (PST) Content-Class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: restrict_post not working Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.0.6375.0 Date: Fri, 20 Feb 2004 14:02:17 -0800 Message-ID: <076BFCC511F46C4EA3799CADC564EA0F1572EC@exchange.pro-cs.com> X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: restrict_post not working Thread-Index: AcP39GUMKOFZ+YY8SQWVeWLDnZBg7AAB/kOA From: "Samuel Mauntz" To: "John Sechrest" Cc: X-Archive-Number: 200402/32 X-Sequence-Number: 4395 Any hints on where to look for problems? I've googled the problem and haven't come up with any possible solutions. -----Original Message----- From: John Sechrest [mailto:sechrest@peak.org] Sent: Friday, February 20, 2004 12:56 PM To: Samuel Mauntz Cc: majordomo-users@greatcircle.com Subject: Re: restrict_post not working I use exactly this method and it works fine. So some more debugging is probably needed. "Samuel Mauntz" writes: =20=20 I have a list that I want to restrict posting to. What I have done is created List1(my list) and=20 L2(a list containing the users I want to be allowed to post to L1). I edited restrict_post in L1.config to contain the following line... =20=20 restrict_post =3D L2 =20=20 However, I can still post to L1 from email addresses not in the L2 list. = Does anyone know why restrict_post might now be working? =20 From majordomo-users-owner@greatcircle.com Fri Feb 20 14:13:29 2004 Received: from jas.peak.org (jas.peak.org [206.163.129.210]) by mycroft.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 06A835552D for ; Fri, 20 Feb 2004 14:10:19 -0800 (PST) Received: from jas.peak.org (sechrest@localhost) by jas.peak.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id i1KM73n31781; Fri, 20 Feb 2004 14:07:03 -0800 Message-Id: <200402202207.i1KM73n31781@jas.peak.org> To: "Samuel Mauntz" Cc: majordomo-users@greatcircle.com Subject: Re: restrict_post not working In-reply-to: Your message of Fri, 20 Feb 2004 14:02:17 PST. <076BFCC511F46C4EA3799CADC564EA0F1572EC@exchange.pro-cs.com> Date: Fri, 20 Feb 2004 14:07:03 -0800 From: John Sechrest X-Archive-Number: 200402/33 X-Sequence-Number: 4396 My process to debug this would be to use a binary search. a) Can you set up restrict_post on L1, so that only L1 can post to it? If not, there is something wrong with all restrict posts. b) Can you set up restrict_post on L2, so that only L2 can post to it? If not, there is something wrong with L2. (permissions?) (stale info in sendmail?) c) Configure it so that only L2 can post on L1, Does this work? If not,you know that restrict post works in the basis of the first two tests. What pieces can you break the problem into? "Samuel Mauntz" writes: % % Any hints on where to look for problems? I've googled % the problem and haven't come up with any possible solutions. % % % -----Original Message----- % From: John Sechrest [mailto:sechrest@peak.org] % Sent: Friday, February 20, 2004 12:56 PM % To: Samuel Mauntz % Cc: majordomo-users@greatcircle.com % Subject: Re: restrict_post not working % % I use exactly this method and it works fine. % % So some more debugging is probably needed. % % % % "Samuel Mauntz" writes: % % % I have a list that I want to restrict posting to. % What I have done is created List1(my list) and % L2(a list containing the users I want to be allowed to post to L1). % I edited restrict_post in L1.config to contain the following line... % % restrict_post = L2 % % However, I can still post to L1 from email addresses not in the L2 list. Does % anyone know why restrict_post might now be working? % ----- John Sechrest . Helping people use . computers and the Internet . more effectively . . Internet: sechrest@peak.org . . http://www.peak.org/~sechrest From majordomo-users-owner@greatcircle.com Fri Feb 20 16:20:22 2004 Received: from exchange.pro-cs.com (ip-64-139-49-131.sjc.megapath.net [64.139.49.131]) by mycroft.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2F3D852941 for ; Fri, 20 Feb 2004 16:19:48 -0800 (PST) Content-Class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: restrict_post not working Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.0.6375.0 Date: Fri, 20 Feb 2004 16:19:47 -0800 Message-ID: <076BFCC511F46C4EA3799CADC564EA0F0BF95B@exchange.pro-cs.com> X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: restrict_post not working Thread-Index: AcP3/8RL59Xa495VQgKMPVbNw0MdBQABjEZg From: "Samuel Mauntz" To: "John Sechrest" Cc: X-Archive-Number: 200402/34 X-Sequence-Number: 4397 I tried setting up restrict_post on L1 so that only L1 users could post to = the list...no good. People from off-list can still post to the list. Somet= hing is wrong with the entire restrict_post directive. Here's a copy of what the aliases look like...don't think there's anything = amiss here. Any other ideas. L1: "|/path/to/majordomo/wrapper resend -l L1 L1-list" L1-list: :include:/path/to/majordomo/lists/L1 owner-L1: info L1-owner: info L1-request: "|/path/to/majordomo/wrapper majordomo -l L1" L1-approval: info -----Original Message----- From: John Sechrest [mailto:sechrest@peak.org] Sent: Friday, February 20, 2004 2:07 PM To: Samuel Mauntz Cc: majordomo-users@greatcircle.com Subject: Re: restrict_post not working My process to debug this would be to use a binary search. a) Can you set up restrict_post on L1, so that only L1 can post to it? If not, there is something wrong with all restrict posts.=20 =20 =20 b) Can you set up restrict_post on L2, so that only L2 can post to it? If not, there is something wrong with L2.=20 (permissions?) (stale info in sendmail?) c) Configure it so that only L2 can post on L1, Does this work? If not,you know that restrict post works in the basis of the first two tes= ts. What pieces can you break the problem into? =20 "Samuel Mauntz" writes: %=20 % Any hints on where to look for problems? I've googled % the problem and haven't come up with any possible solutions. %=20 %=20 % -----Original Message----- % From: John Sechrest [mailto:sechrest@peak.org] % Sent: Friday, February 20, 2004 12:56 PM % To: Samuel Mauntz % Cc: majordomo-users@greatcircle.com % Subject: Re: restrict_post not working %=20 % I use exactly this method and it works fine. %=20 % So some more debugging is probably needed. %=20 %=20 %=20 % "Samuel Mauntz" writes: %=20 %=20=20=20 % I have a list that I want to restrict posting to. % What I have done is created List1(my list) and=20 % L2(a list containing the users I want to be allowed to post to L1). % I edited restrict_post in L1.config to contain the following line... %=20=20=20 % restrict_post =3D L2 %=20=20=20 % However, I can still post to L1 from email addresses not in the L2 lis= t. Does % anyone know why restrict_post might now be working? %=20=20 ----- John Sechrest . Helping people use . computers and the Internet . more effectively .=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20= =20=20=20=20=20=20=20 . Internet: sechrest@peak.org .=20=20=20 . http://www.peak.org/~sechre= st From majordomo-users-owner@greatcircle.com Fri Feb 20 18:27:17 2004 Received: from mail.bcpl.net (mail.bcpl.net [204.255.212.10]) by mycroft.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D9C8754B96 for ; Fri, 20 Feb 2004 18:26:06 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail.bcpl.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.bcpl.net (8.12.9/8.12.9) with ESMTP id i1L2Q69Q017746 for ; Fri, 20 Feb 2004 21:26:06 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (fold@localhost) by mail.bcpl.net (8.12.9/8.12.9/Submit) with ESMTP id i1L2Q6FU017740 for ; Fri, 20 Feb 2004 21:26:06 -0500 (EST) X-Authentication-Warning: mail.bcpl.net: fold owned process doing -bs Date: Fri, 20 Feb 2004 21:26:06 -0500 (EST) From: Chip Old X-X-Sender: fold@mail To: MAJORDOMO-USERS Subject: Re: restrict_post not working In-Reply-To: <076BFCC511F46C4EA3799CADC564EA0F0BF95B@exchange.pro-cs.com> Message-ID: References: <076BFCC511F46C4EA3799CADC564EA0F0BF95B@exchange.pro-cs.com> X-Organization: BCPL.NET Internet Services X-Complaints-To: abuse@bcpl.net MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Archive-Number: 200402/35 X-Sequence-Number: 4398 On Fri, 20 Feb 2004 16:19 -0800, Samuel Mauntz wrote to John Sechrest: > I tried setting up restrict_post on L1 so that only L1 users could post > to the list...no good. People from off-list can still post to the list. > Something is wrong with the entire restrict_post directive. > > Here's a copy of what the aliases look like...don't think there's > anything amiss here. Any other ideas. > > L1: "|/path/to/majordomo/wrapper resend -l L1 L1-list" > L1-list: :include:/path/to/majordomo/lists/L1 > owner-L1: info > L1-owner: info > L1-request: "|/path/to/majordomo/wrapper majordomo -l L1" > L1-approval: info Use only lower case in listnames (l1 instead of L1). Upper case list names do strange things to resend, which may be the cause of your restrict_post problem and may cause other problems you haven't discovered yet. -- Chip Old (Francis E. Old) E-Mail: fold@bcpl.net Manager, BCPL Network Services Phone: 410-887-6180 Manager, BCPL.NET Internet Services FAX: 410-887-2091 320 York Road Towson, MD 21204 USA From majordomo-users-owner@greatcircle.com Fri Feb 20 22:17:53 2004 Received: from mail.cableone.net (scanmail1.cableone.net [24.116.0.121]) by mycroft.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1DAD151D4D for ; Fri, 20 Feb 2004 22:17:14 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail.sonny.com (unverified [24.116.58.25]) by smail1.cableone.net (SurgeMail 1.5d2) with ESMTP id 6271752 for multiple; Fri, 20 Feb 2004 23:12:47 -0700 Received: from sonny.org (dad.liston.nu [192.168.1.60]) (authenticated bits=0) by mail.sonny.com (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id i1L6H9t9032232 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5 bits=128 verify=OK); Sat, 21 Feb 2004 00:17:12 -0600 Message-ID: <4036F838.3030604@sonny.org> Date: Sat, 21 Feb 2004 00:18:32 -0600 From: Daniel Liston User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.4) Gecko/20030624 Netscape/7.1 (ax) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Samuel Mauntz Cc: majordomo-users@greatcircle.com Subject: Re: restrict_post not working References: <076BFCC511F46C4EA3799CADC564EA0F0BF95A@exchange.pro-cs.com> In-Reply-To: <076BFCC511F46C4EA3799CADC564EA0F0BF95A@exchange.pro-cs.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Server: High Performance Mail Server - http://surgemail.com X-Archive-Number: 200402/36 X-Sequence-Number: 4399 Any setting in your List1.conf is worthless if you are not using the "resend" argument to the wrapper in your alias for List1. list1: "|/path-to/majordomo/wrapper resend -l list1 list1-outgoing" Dan Liston Samuel Mauntz wrote: > I have a list that I want to restrict posting to. What I have done is > created List1(my list) and L2(a list containing the users I want to be > allowed to post to L1). > I edited restrict_post in L1.config to contain the following line... > > restrict_post = L2 > > However, I can still post to L1 from email addresses not in the L2 > list. Does anyone know why restrict_post might now be working? > > ------------------------------------------------- > > * Samuel Mauntz * > > * email: samuel@pro-cs.com * > > * phone: (510) 249-0440 * > > * fax: (510) 249-0441 * > > * web: http://www.pro-cs.com * > > ------------------------------------------------- > > From majordomo-users-owner@greatcircle.com Fri Feb 20 22:29:49 2004 Received: from mail.cableone.net (scanmail1.cableone.net [24.116.0.121]) by mycroft.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C0FB655934 for ; Fri, 20 Feb 2004 22:27:45 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail.sonny.com (unverified [24.116.58.25]) by smail1.cableone.net (SurgeMail 1.5d2) with ESMTP id 6272604 for multiple; Fri, 20 Feb 2004 23:23:21 -0700 Received: from sonny.org (dad.liston.nu [192.168.1.60]) (authenticated bits=0) by mail.sonny.com (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id i1L6Rit9032438 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5 bits=128 verify=OK); Sat, 21 Feb 2004 00:27:47 -0600 Message-ID: <4036FAB4.90208@sonny.org> Date: Sat, 21 Feb 2004 00:29:08 -0600 From: Daniel Liston User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.4) Gecko/20030624 Netscape/7.1 (ax) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: tina bakung Cc: majordomo-users@greatcircle.com Subject: Re: GUI admin for majordomo (was BLANK) References: <20040221023529.21028.qmail@web21509.mail.yahoo.com> In-Reply-To: <20040221023529.21028.qmail@web21509.mail.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Server: High Performance Mail Server - http://surgemail.com X-Archive-Number: 200402/37 X-Sequence-Number: 4400 You are not likely to get a response on majordomo-workers. There has not been communication there in years. Try a message to majordomo-users instead. Also, have you checked google, altavista, or freshmeat? What is wrong with majorcool? Dan Liston tina bakung wrote: > can anyone help me to find a program admin for majordomo beside the > majorcool From majordomo-users-owner@greatcircle.com Fri Feb 20 22:32:03 2004 Received: from mail.cableone.net (scanmail1.cableone.net [24.116.0.121]) by mycroft.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 11DEA5577B for ; Fri, 20 Feb 2004 22:22:49 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail.sonny.com (unverified [24.116.58.25]) by smail1.cableone.net (SurgeMail 1.5d2) with ESMTP id 6272193 for multiple; Fri, 20 Feb 2004 23:18:19 -0700 Received: from sonny.org (dad.liston.nu [192.168.1.60]) (authenticated bits=0) by mail.sonny.com (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id i1L6Mgt9032331 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5 bits=128 verify=OK); Sat, 21 Feb 2004 00:22:44 -0600 Message-ID: <4036F986.6030909@sonny.org> Date: Sat, 21 Feb 2004 00:24:06 -0600 From: Daniel Liston User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.4) Gecko/20030624 Netscape/7.1 (ax) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Samuel Mauntz Cc: John Sechrest , majordomo-users@greatcircle.com Subject: Re: restrict_post not working References: <076BFCC511F46C4EA3799CADC564EA0F0BF95B@exchange.pro-cs.com> In-Reply-To: <076BFCC511F46C4EA3799CADC564EA0F0BF95B@exchange.pro-cs.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Server: High Performance Mail Server - http://surgemail.com X-Archive-Number: 200402/38 X-Sequence-Number: 4401 It is also possible that your users are not posting to L1, but they are writing directly to L1-list. If you allow this, your L1.conf will also be worthless. There is nothing (in majordomo) controlling the message. If this is the case, change your sendmail config to prevent posting to this address by enabling virtusertable, and putting an entry in /etc/mail/virtusertable like this; L1-list@your.domain error:nouser User unknown there is a separating the columns. Dan Liston PS. In your /path-to/majordomo/lists directory, the names of the files holding subscriber addresses must be in lower case. The List1 or L1 name for the list and it's aliases file entry can have upper case letters, but the filename must be lower case. This leads to the matching .conf file also required to be lower case. Samuel Mauntz wrote: > I tried setting up restrict_post on L1 so that only L1 users could post to the list...no good. People from off-list can still post to the list. Something is wrong with the entire restrict_post directive. > > Here's a copy of what the aliases look like...don't think there's anything amiss here. Any other ideas. > > L1: "|/path/to/majordomo/wrapper resend -l L1 L1-list" > L1-list: :include:/path/to/majordomo/lists/L1 > owner-L1: info > L1-owner: info > L1-request: "|/path/to/majordomo/wrapper majordomo -l L1" > L1-approval: info > > > -----Original Message----- > From: John Sechrest [mailto:sechrest@peak.org] > Sent: Friday, February 20, 2004 2:07 PM > To: Samuel Mauntz > Cc: majordomo-users@greatcircle.com > Subject: Re: restrict_post not working > > > > My process to debug this would be to use a binary search. > > a) Can you set up restrict_post on L1, so that only L1 can post to it? > If not, there is something wrong with all restrict posts. > > > b) Can you set up restrict_post on L2, so that only L2 can post to it? > If not, there is something wrong with L2. > (permissions?) (stale info in sendmail?) > > > c) Configure it so that only L2 can post on L1, > Does this work? > If not,you know that restrict post works in the basis of the first two tests. > > What pieces can you break the problem into? > > > > > > > > > "Samuel Mauntz" writes: > > % > % Any hints on where to look for problems? I've googled > % the problem and haven't come up with any possible solutions. > % > % > % -----Original Message----- > % From: John Sechrest [mailto:sechrest@peak.org] > % Sent: Friday, February 20, 2004 12:56 PM > % To: Samuel Mauntz > % Cc: majordomo-users@greatcircle.com > % Subject: Re: restrict_post not working > % > % I use exactly this method and it works fine. > % > % So some more debugging is probably needed. > % > % > % > % "Samuel Mauntz" writes: > % > % > % I have a list that I want to restrict posting to. > % What I have done is created List1(my list) and > % L2(a list containing the users I want to be allowed to post to L1). > % I edited restrict_post in L1.config to contain the following line... > % > % restrict_post = L2 > % > % However, I can still post to L1 from email addresses not in the L2 list. Does > % anyone know why restrict_post might now be working? > % > > ----- > John Sechrest . Helping people use > . computers and the Internet > . more effectively > . > . Internet: sechrest@peak.org > . > . http://www.peak.org/~sechrest From majordomo-users-owner@greatcircle.com Mon Feb 23 06:43:00 2004 Received: from mail.gmhwh.org (mail.gmhwh.org [12.110.19.37]) by mycroft.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 59B4155845 for ; Mon, 23 Feb 2004 06:34:01 -0800 (PST) Received: from 192.168.8.246 by mail.gmhwh.org with ESMTP ( (MMS v5.5.3)); Mon, 23 Feb 2004 07:29:46 -0600 Received: from WH-INET-MTA by wh-inet.gmhwh.org with Novell_GroupWise; Mon, 23 Feb 2004 07:33:43 -0700 Message-ID: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise Internet Agent 6.5.1 Date: Mon, 23 Feb 2004 07:33:27 -0700 From: "Charlie Smith" To: majordomo-users@greatcircle.com Subject: How can I allow only internal ips access to be able to post to lists? I'd like to block incoming s MIME-Version: 1.0 X-WSS-ID: 6C24D1D0688482-01-01 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline X-Archive-Number: 200402/39 X-Sequence-Number: 4402 How can I allow only internal ips access to be able to post to lists? I'd like to block incoming spam but also allow anyone within the organization to post to certain lists. From majordomo-users-owner@greatcircle.com Mon Feb 23 07:27:24 2004 Received: from mailgate.drav.net (real-life.tm [195.11.8.2]) by mycroft.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3CDC354D2A for ; Mon, 23 Feb 2004 07:12:54 -0800 (PST) Received: from holborn by mailgate.drav.net with local (Exim 4.14 #2 (FreeBSD)) id 1AvHlM-000LmL-Ri; Mon, 23 Feb 2004 15:12:52 +0000 Date: Mon, 23 Feb 2004 15:12:52 +0000 From: Drav Sloan To: Charlie Smith Cc: majordomo-users@greatcircle.com Subject: Re: How can I allow only internal ips access to be able to post to lists? I'd like to block incoming s Message-ID: <20040223151252.GI22538@real-life.tm> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.1i Organisation: Drav Net X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: SmithCW@ldschurch.org, majordomo-users@greatcircle.com X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-Archive-Number: 200402/40 X-Sequence-Number: 4403 Charlie Smith wrote: > How can I allow only internal ips access to be able to post to lists? Setup up your Mailserver to only accept from certain places for that address (this is possible for quite a few MTAs). OR use restrict_post and point that at a file containing all the email addresses at your company. OR Set the list to moderate and only approve what you want to goto the list. Regards D. From majordomo-users-owner@greatcircle.com Mon Feb 23 11:38:46 2004 Received: from exchange.pro-cs.com (ip-66-80-0-218.dsl.sca.megapath.net [66.80.0.218]) by mycroft.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 70EE655B95 for ; Mon, 23 Feb 2004 11:38:25 -0800 (PST) Content-Class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Subject: Re: restrict_post not working Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.0.6375.0 Date: Mon, 23 Feb 2004 11:38:23 -0800 Message-ID: <076BFCC511F46C4EA3799CADC564EA0F0BF95C@exchange.pro-cs.com> X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: restrict_post not working Thread-Index: AcP4Qx+x7a+bHDJhQgeITLLWfzMa0gB/sUig From: "Samuel Mauntz" To: "Daniel Liston" Cc: "Chip Old" , "Daniel Liston" , X-Archive-Number: 200402/41 X-Sequence-Number: 4404 Thanks Dan, I wasn't aware of the lower case problem with list names. As soon as I renamed the list it started working. -----Original Message----- From: Daniel Liston [mailto:dliston@sonny.org] Sent: Friday, February 20, 2004 10:24 PM To: Samuel Mauntz Cc: John Sechrest; majordomo-users@greatcircle.com Subject: Re: restrict_post not working It is also possible that your users are not posting to L1, but they are writing directly to L1-list. If you allow this, your L1.conf will also be worthless. There is nothing (in majordomo) controlling the message. If this is the case, change your sendmail config to prevent posting to this address by enabling virtusertable, and putting an entry in /etc/mail/virtusertable like this; L1-list@your.domain error:nouser User unknown there is a separating the columns. Dan Liston PS. In your /path-to/majordomo/lists directory, the names of the files holding subscriber addresses must be in lower case. The List1 or L1 name for the list and it's aliases file entry can have upper case letters, but the filename must be lower case. This leads to the matching .conf file also required to be lower case. Samuel Mauntz wrote: > I tried setting up restrict_post on L1 so that only L1 users could post t= o the list...no good. People from off-list can still post to the list. Som= ething is wrong with the entire restrict_post directive. >=20 > Here's a copy of what the aliases look like...don't think there's anythin= g amiss here. Any other ideas. >=20 > L1: "|/path/to/majordomo/wrapper resend -l L1 L1-list" > L1-list: :include:/path/to/majordomo/lists/L1 > owner-L1: info > L1-owner: info > L1-request: "|/path/to/majordomo/wrapper majordomo -l L1" > L1-approval: info >=20 >=20 > -----Original Message----- > From: John Sechrest [mailto:sechrest@peak.org] > Sent: Friday, February 20, 2004 2:07 PM > To: Samuel Mauntz > Cc: majordomo-users@greatcircle.com > Subject: Re: restrict_post not working >=20 >=20 >=20 > My process to debug this would be to use a binary search. >=20 > a) Can you set up restrict_post on L1, so that only L1 can post to it? > If not, there is something wrong with all restrict posts.=20 >=20=20 >=20=20 > b) Can you set up restrict_post on L2, so that only L2 can post to it? > If not, there is something wrong with L2.=20 > (permissions?) (stale info in sendmail?) >=20 >=20 > c) Configure it so that only L2 can post on L1, > Does this work? > If not,you know that restrict post works in the basis of the first two t= ests. >=20 > What pieces can you break the problem into? >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 > "Samuel Mauntz" writes: >=20 > %=20 > % Any hints on where to look for problems? I've googled > % the problem and haven't come up with any possible solutions. > %=20 > %=20 > % -----Original Message----- > % From: John Sechrest [mailto:sechrest@peak.org] > % Sent: Friday, February 20, 2004 12:56 PM > % To: Samuel Mauntz > % Cc: majordomo-users@greatcircle.com > % Subject: Re: restrict_post not working > %=20 > % I use exactly this method and it works fine. > %=20 > % So some more debugging is probably needed. > %=20 > %=20 > %=20 > % "Samuel Mauntz" writes: > %=20 > %=20=20=20 > % I have a list that I want to restrict posting to. > % What I have done is created List1(my list) and=20 > % L2(a list containing the users I want to be allowed to post to L1). > % I edited restrict_post in L1.config to contain the following line... > %=20=20=20 > % restrict_post =3D L2 > %=20=20=20 > % However, I can still post to L1 from email addresses not in the L2 l= ist. Does > % anyone know why restrict_post might now be working? > %=20=20 >=20 > ----- > John Sechrest . Helping people use > . computers and the Internet > . more effectively > .=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20= =20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20 > . Internet: sechrest@peak.org > .=20=20=20 > . http://www.peak.org/~sech= rest From majordomo-users-owner@greatcircle.com Tue Feb 24 05:50:11 2004 Received: from mailgate.gliant.com (mailgate.gliant.com [80.176.174.122]) by mycroft.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 98A4E529F5 for ; Tue, 24 Feb 2004 05:47:01 -0800 (PST) Received: from D65HRS0J (firewall.gliant.com [80.176.174.123]) by mailgate.gliant.com (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id i1ODkqiW032151 for ; Tue, 24 Feb 2004 13:47:00 GMT From: "Fredrik Wass" To: Subject: Archive software used at GreatCircle website Date: Tue, 24 Feb 2004 13:45:46 -0000 Message-ID: <002801c3fadc$84ab8c10$8100a8c0@D65HRS0J> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.3416 Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 X-Archive-Number: 200402/42 X-Sequence-Number: 4405 Dear all, Does anyone know which archive software is being used on the GreatCircle website, or if there are alternative programs that you would recommend? Thanks, Fred From majordomo-users-owner@greatcircle.com Tue Feb 24 10:36:50 2004 Received: from alageremail1.agere.com (alageremail1.agere.com [192.19.192.106]) by mycroft.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 75AAA54374 for ; Tue, 24 Feb 2004 10:33:39 -0800 (PST) Received: from alerelay.agere.com (alerelay.agere.com [135.14.190.33]) by alageremail1.agere.com (8.11.7+Sun/8.10.2) with ESMTP id i1OIXdk28575 for ; Tue, 24 Feb 2004 13:33:39 -0500 (EST) Received: from palex2kh01.ags.agere.com (palex2kh01.agere.com [128.94.210.100]) by alerelay.agere.com (8.11.6+Sun/8.11.6) with ESMTP id i1OIXcm03875 for ; Tue, 24 Feb 2004 13:33:38 -0500 (EST) Received: from pauex2ku02.ags.agere.com ([135.14.188.40]) by palex2kh01.ags.agere.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.6713); Tue, 24 Feb 2004 13:33:38 -0500 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.0.6487.1 content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----_=_NextPart_001_01C3FB04.B848D206" Subject: digest errors Date: Tue, 24 Feb 2004 13:33:38 -0500 Message-ID: <66D2A2CE029B284D920FDFD65255918D907BB4@pauex2ku02.agere.com> X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: digest errors Thread-Index: AcP7BLg0RHMOpgTqTJ2A5ehaM854/Q== From: "Dinh, Anthony (Anthony)" To: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 24 Feb 2004 18:33:38.0746 (UTC) FILETIME=[B85401A0:01C3FB04] X-Archive-Number: 200402/43 X-Sequence-Number: 4406 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------_=_NextPart_001_01C3FB04.B848D206 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Can someone please help me. I cannot get the digests to work. Here are the errors. All files are 644+ and directories are 755+.=20 =20 =20 The original message was received at Tue, 24 Feb 2004 12:48:03 -0500 (EST) from majordom@localhost ----- The following addresses had permanent fatal errors ----- "|/opt/majordomo/wrapper digest -r -C -l testing_sandy-digest testing_sandy-digest-outgoing" (reason: 2) (expanded from: testing_sandy-digestify) "|/opt/majordomo/wrapper archive2.pl -f /opt/majordomo/archivedir/testing_sandy/testing_sandy -a -m" (reason: 2) (expanded from: testing_sandy-archiver) ----- Transcript of session follows ----- Failed taint check: !=3D $homedir/digestdir/testing_sandy-digest/.LOCK at shlock.pl line 33. shlock: link("shlock.28096", ""): No such file or directory at shlock.pl line 57. Failed taint check: !=3D $homedir/digestdir/testing_sandy-digest/.LOCK at shlock.pl line 33. shlock: link("shlock.28096", ""): No such file or directory at shlock.pl line 57. Failed taint check: !=3D $homedir/digestdir/testing_sandy-digest/.LOCK at shlock.pl line 33. shlock: link("shlock.28096", ""): No such file or directory at shlock.pl line 57. Failed taint check: !=3D $homedir/digestdir/testing_sandy-digest/.LOCK at shlock.pl line 33. shlock: link("shlock.28096", ""): No such file or directory at shlock.pl line 57. Failed taint check: !=3D=20 =20 =20=20 Anthony Dinh Agere Systems=20=20 Office: (610)712-3018=20 mailto: dinha@agere.com =20 ------_=_NextPart_001_01C3FB04.B848D206 Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message
Can someo= ne please=20 help me.  I cannot get the digests to work.  Here are the=20 errors.  All files are 644+ and directories are=20 755+. 
 
 

The original message was received at Tue, 24 Feb 2004 12:48:03 -0500 (ES= T)=20 from majordom@localhost

----- The following addresses had permanent fatal errors -----=20 "|/opt/majordomo/wrapper digest -r -C -l testing_sandy-digest=20 testing_sandy-digest-outgoing"

(reason: 2)

(expanded from: testing_sandy-digestify) "|/opt/majordomo/wrapper archiv= e2.pl=20 -f /opt/majordomo/archivedir/testing_sandy/testing_sandy -a -m"

(reason: 2)

(expanded from: testing_sandy-archiver)

----- Transcript of session follows -----

Failed taint check: !=3D $homedir/digestdir/testing_sandy-digest/.LOCK a= t=20 shlock.pl line 33.

shlock: link("shlock.28096", ""): No such file or directory at shlock.pl= line=20 57. Failed taint check: !=3D $homedir/digestdir/testing_sandy-digest/.LOCK = at=20 shlock.pl line 33.

shlock: link("shlock.28096", ""): No such file or directory at shlock.pl= line=20 57. Failed taint check: !=3D $homedir/digestdir/testing_sandy-digest/.LOCK = at=20 shlock.pl line 33.

shlock: link("shlock.28096", ""): No such file or directory at shlock.pl= line=20 57. Failed taint check: !=3D $homedir/digestdir/testing_sandy-digest/.LOCK = at=20 shlock.pl line 33.

shlock: link("shlock.28096", ""): No such file or directory at shlock.pl= line=20 57. Failed taint check: !=3D

 
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=00 ------_=_NextPart_001_01C3FB04.B848D206-- From majordomo-users-owner@greatcircle.com Tue Feb 24 11:18:59 2004 Received: from mailgate.drav.net (real-life.tm [195.11.8.2]) by mycroft.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8987451C2D for ; Tue, 24 Feb 2004 11:18:53 -0800 (PST) Received: from holborn by mailgate.drav.net with local (Exim 4.14 #2 (FreeBSD)) id 1Avi4y-000PTZ-6f; Tue, 24 Feb 2004 19:18:52 +0000 Date: Tue, 24 Feb 2004 19:18:52 +0000 From: Drav Sloan To: "Dinh, Anthony (Anthony)" Cc: majordomo-users@greatcircle.com Subject: Re: digest errors Message-ID: <20040224191852.GE83726@real-life.tm> References: <66D2A2CE029B284D920FDFD65255918D907BB4@pauex2ku02.agere.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <66D2A2CE029B284D920FDFD65255918D907BB4@pauex2ku02.agere.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.1i Organisation: Drav Net X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: dinha@agere.com, majordomo-users@greatcircle.com X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-Archive-Number: 200402/44 X-Sequence-Number: 4407 Dinh, Anthony (Anthony) wrote: > Can someone please help me. I cannot get the digests to work. Here > are the errors. All files are 644+ and directories are 755+. The $homedir/digestdir/testing_sandy-digest directory has to be owned by the uid of the process from the MTA, or set your MTA to deliver as the uid:gid of that dir. Thats probably the problem :) D. From majordomo-users-owner@greatcircle.com Tue Feb 24 11:54:24 2004 Received: from mail-c108-01.fitsuny.edu (imail.fitsuny.edu [143.55.7.11]) by mycroft.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A94D45351C for ; Tue, 24 Feb 2004 11:54:02 -0800 (PST) Date: Tue, 24 Feb 2004 14:54:00 -0500 Message-Id: <200402241454.AA246481224@mail-c108-01.fitsuny.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii From: "MICHAEL KHAN" Reply-To: To: "Majordomo-List" Subject: LOG ERROR X-Mailer: X-Archive-Number: 200402/45 X-Sequence-Number: 4408 MY UNIX SYSTEMS LOG FILE IS FULL OF THE FOLLOWING ERROR: Feb 24 14:07:15 listserv sendmail[3350]: [ID 801593 mail.alert] i1OJ7BG03350: SYSERR(root): savemail: cannot save rejected email anywhere Feb 24 14:22:11 listserv sendmail[3509]: [ID 801593 mail.alert] i1OJMBG03509: Losing ./qfi1OJMBG03509: savemail panic Feb 24 14:22:11 listserv sendmail[3509]: [ID 801593 mail.alert] i1OJMBG03509: SYSERR(root): savemail: cannot save rejected email anywhere I am not sure what is savemail panic is. How do I save rejected mail. Sendmail version 11.8 Majordomo 1.94.5 Mike --- [This E-mail scanned for viruses by Declude Virus] From majordomo-users-owner@greatcircle.com Tue Feb 24 12:04:40 2004 Received: from mailgate.drav.net (real-life.tm [195.11.8.2]) by mycroft.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3C9BE54C28 for ; Tue, 24 Feb 2004 12:03:44 -0800 (PST) Received: from holborn by mailgate.drav.net with local (Exim 4.14 #2 (FreeBSD)) id 1AvimN-000PaC-S3; Tue, 24 Feb 2004 20:03:43 +0000 Date: Tue, 24 Feb 2004 20:03:43 +0000 From: Drav Sloan To: "Dinh, Anthony (Anthony)" Cc: majordomo-users@greatcircle.com Subject: Re: digest errors Message-ID: <20040224200343.GF83726@real-life.tm> References: <66D2A2CE029B284D920FDFD65255918D907BBA@pauex2ku02.agere.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <66D2A2CE029B284D920FDFD65255918D907BBA@pauex2ku02.agere.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.1i Organisation: Drav Net X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: dinha@agere.com, majordomo-users@greatcircle.com X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-Archive-Number: 200402/46 X-Sequence-Number: 4409 Dinh, Anthony (Anthony) wrote: > Drav, > > Thanks for your prompt reply! As far as I know, everything is owned by > majordom:majordom. How do I check the uid of the process from the MTA, > or set it to deliver as majordom:majordom? Thanks in advance. umm I think thats what wrapper is used for (a setuid script) and if memory serves that sets the uid. Again, from emory I think this uid and gid is configured at buildtime in the Makefile W_USER = uid W_GROUP = gid :) D. From majordomo-users-owner@greatcircle.com Wed Feb 25 00:12:33 2004 Received: from soln-sr234.solutionip.com (unknown [64.140.24.194]) by mycroft.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 085B6522CD for ; Wed, 25 Feb 2004 00:10:40 -0800 (PST) Received: from [64.140.24.215] (helo=sonny.org) by soln-sr234.solutionip.com with esmtp (Exim 3.34 #1) id 1Avu7m-0002fO-00 for majordomo-users@greatcircle.com; Wed, 25 Feb 2004 02:10:34 -0600 Message-ID: <403C587B.9040804@sonny.org> Date: Wed, 25 Feb 2004 02:10:35 -0600 From: Daniel Liston User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.2.1) Gecko/20030225 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Majordomo-List Subject: Re: LOG ERROR References: <200402241454.AA246481224@mail-c108-01.fitsuny.edu> In-Reply-To: <200402241454.AA246481224@mail-c108-01.fitsuny.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Archive-Number: 200402/47 X-Sequence-Number: 4410 This looks like a sendmail problem, not majordomo. Are you sending mail out as the ROOT user, that sendmail cannot bounce back to the user as undeliverable? Have you checked the errors on google, or better yet, on sendmail.org? Dan Liston MICHAEL KHAN wrote: > MY UNIX SYSTEMS LOG FILE IS FULL OF THE FOLLOWING ERROR: > > Feb 24 14:07:15 listserv sendmail[3350]: [ID 801593 mail.alert] i1OJ7BG03350: > SYSERR(root): savemail: cannot save rejected email anywhere > > Feb 24 14:22:11 listserv sendmail[3509]: [ID 801593 mail.alert] i1OJMBG03509: Losing ./qfi1OJMBG03509: savemail panic > > Feb 24 14:22:11 listserv sendmail[3509]: [ID 801593 mail.alert] i1OJMBG03509: > SYSERR(root): savemail: cannot save rejected email anywhere > > I am not sure what is savemail panic is. How do I save rejected mail. > Sendmail version 11.8 > Majordomo 1.94.5 > > Mike > > --- > [This E-mail scanned for viruses by Declude Virus] From majordomo-users-owner@greatcircle.com Fri Feb 27 12:15:57 2004 Received: from grassmarket.ucs.ed.ac.uk (grassmarket.ucs.ed.ac.uk [129.215.166.64]) by mycroft.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B8DF5514B8 for ; Fri, 27 Feb 2004 12:13:36 -0800 (PST) Received: from sms.ed.ac.uk (16356611.resnet.ed.ac.uk [10.7.0.18]) by grassmarket.ucs.ed.ac.uk (8.12.10/8.12.9) with ESMTP id i1RKDZgq022962 for ; Fri, 27 Feb 2004 20:13:35 GMT Date: Fri, 27 Feb 2004 20:12:27 +0000 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v553) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Subject: From: Syamsul Hussin To: majordomo-users@greatcircle.com Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <43C2434F-6961-11D8-A20A-000A957DCF32@sms.ed.ac.uk> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.553) X-Archive-Number: 200402/48 X-Sequence-Number: 4411 Okay, I have the main password for the mailing list, but i want to change the email of the owner-list (the email where emails to owner-list gets directed) how do i do this? (I've checked the majorcool interface and could not find the field that specifies this). What is the email interface/command to do this? Somebody please help me. From majordomo-users-owner@greatcircle.com Sat Feb 28 11:44:10 2004 Received: from mail.cableone.net (scanmail3.cableone.net [24.116.0.123]) by mycroft.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2AF1E52F04 for ; Sat, 28 Feb 2004 11:44:06 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail.sonny.com (unverified [24.116.58.25]) by smail3.cableone.net (SurgeMail 1.5d2) with ESMTP id 9286908 for ; Sat, 28 Feb 2004 12:34:19 -0700 Received: from sonny.org (dad.liston.nu [192.168.1.60]) (authenticated bits=0) by mail.sonny.com (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id i1SJi2kh028311 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5 bits=128 verify=OK) for ; Sat, 28 Feb 2004 13:44:04 -0600 Message-ID: <4040EFDF.5020004@sonny.org> Date: Sat, 28 Feb 2004 13:45:35 -0600 From: Daniel Liston User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.4) Gecko/20030624 Netscape/7.1 (ax) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: majordomo-users@greatcircle.com Subject: Setting owner-list (was blank) References: <43C2434F-6961-11D8-A20A-000A957DCF32@sms.ed.ac.uk> In-Reply-To: <43C2434F-6961-11D8-A20A-000A957DCF32@sms.ed.ac.uk> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Server: High Performance Mail Server - http://surgemail.com X-Archive-Number: 200402/49 X-Sequence-Number: 4412 You need access to the aliases file for this. Maybe Ensim, Plesk, or one of the other remote management GUIs can help you here. Otherwise, you need to ssh or telnet to the majordomo server, set user to root or other admin with rights to edit the aliases, make the change, and rebuild the database. Even the email interface only allows you to change settings in the list.config file. The aliases are more of a sendmail (MTA) setting. Dan Liston Syamsul Hussin wrote: > Okay, I have the main password for the mailing list, but i want to > change the email of the owner-list (the email where emails to owner-list > gets directed) how do i do this? (I've checked the majorcool interface > and could not find the field that specifies this). What is the email > interface/command to do this? Somebody please help me. From majordomo-users-owner@greatcircle.com Sun Feb 29 17:21:05 2004 Received: from host.hennenfent.com (hennenfent.com [216.127.68.67]) by mycroft.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 61BCE1B3178 for ; Sun, 29 Feb 2004 17:20:47 -0800 (PST) Received: from 203.131.162.129 (adsl-131.162.129.info.com.ph [203.131.162.129] (may be forged)) (authenticated (0 bits)) by host.hennenfent.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id i21F4ki19632 for ; Mon, 1 Mar 2004 10:04:47 -0500 Date: Mon, 1 Mar 2004 09:21:10 +0800 From: Dean Mapa X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.47 Halloween Edition) Personal Reply-To: Dean Mapa Organization: ProstateCancerTalk.com X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <18811666675.20040301092110@prostatecancertalk.com> To: majordomo-users@greatcircle.com Subject: Replying to List Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Archive-Number: 200402/50 X-Sequence-Number: 4413 Hello, Is there a way to configure majordomo so that when recipients of messages hit 'reply,' the reply goes to the list instead of the sender of the message? Thanks! -- Dean mailto:dean@prostatecancertalk.com From majordomo-users-owner@greatcircle.com Sun Feb 29 17:41:05 2004 Received: from moser.int.networktest.com (ns.networktest.com [64.239.163.226]) by mycroft.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 47D601B34AD for ; Sun, 29 Feb 2004 17:40:55 -0800 (PST) Received: from [192.168.1.11] (ca-canejo-docsis-cmtsf-2-248.vnnyca.adelphia.net [67.21.163.248]) by moser.int.networktest.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B55DC1A70B; Sun, 29 Feb 2004 17:35:56 -0800 (PST) User-Agent: Microsoft-Entourage/10.1.4.030702.0 Date: Sun, 29 Feb 2004 17:40:54 -0800 Subject: Re: Replying to List From: David Newman To: Dean Mapa , Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <18811666675.20040301092110@prostatecancertalk.com> Mime-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-Archive-Number: 200402/51 X-Sequence-Number: 4414 On 2/29/04 5:21 PM, "Dean Mapa" wrote: > Is there a way to configure majordomo so that when recipients of > messages hit 'reply,' the reply goes to the list instead of the sender > of the message? Set the "reply_to" parameter in your listname.config file to do this. For example, you can set: "reply_to = majordomo@lists.prostatecancertalk.com" (or wherever), and then that's where list members' replies will go. Not everyone thinks this is a good idea. Here are some well-reasoned arguments against setting the reply-to parameter: http://www.unicom.com/pw/reply-to-harmful.html dn From majordomo-users-owner@greatcircle.com Sun Feb 29 17:58:34 2004 Received: from web60206.mail.yahoo.com (web60206.mail.yahoo.com [216.109.118.101]) by mycroft.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with SMTP id 63EB51B34F0 for ; Sun, 29 Feb 2004 17:57:39 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <20040301015738.53770.qmail@web60206.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [81.128.82.52] by web60206.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Mon, 01 Mar 2004 01:57:38 GMT Date: Mon, 1 Mar 2004 01:57:38 +0000 (GMT) From: =?iso-8859-1?q?Lee?= Subject: Re: Replying to List To: major In-Reply-To: <18811666675.20040301092110@prostatecancertalk.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0-130183062-1078106258=:53627" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Archive-Number: 200402/52 X-Sequence-Number: 4415 --0-130183062-1078106258=:53627 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Yes, this is one I can actually answer! This function is set up in the config file for your list, as shown below: # reply_to [word] () # Put a reply-to header with value into the outgoing # message. If the token $SENDER is used, then the address of the # sender is used as the value of the reply-to header. This is the # value of the reply-to header for digest lists. reply_to = listname@domain.com (for eg, in your case. ie the list write-to posting email address) lee Dean Mapa wrote: Hello, Is there a way to configure majordomo so that when recipients of messages hit 'reply,' the reply goes to the list instead of the sender of the message? Thanks! -- Dean mailto:dean@prostatecancertalk.com --------------------------------- Yahoo! Messenger - Communicate instantly..."Ping" your friends today! Download Messenger Now --0-130183062-1078106258=:53627 Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit
 
Yes, this is one I can actually answer!
This function is set up in the config file for your list, as shown below:
 
# reply_to [word] () <resend,digest>
# Put a reply-to header with value <value> into the outgoing
# message. If the token $SENDER is used, then the address of the
# sender is used as the value of the reply-to header. This is the
# value of the reply-to header for digest lists.
reply_to = listname@domain.com (for eg, in your case. ie the list write-to posting email address)
 
lee
 


Dean Mapa <dean@prostatecancertalk.com> wrote:
Hello,

Is there a way to configure majordomo so that when recipients of
messages hit 'reply,' the reply goes to the list instead of the sender
of the message?

Thanks!

--
Dean mailto:dean@prostatecancertalk.com

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