From majordomo-users-owner@greatcircle.com Tue Nov 2 15:56:58 2004 X-Original-To: majordomo-users@greatcircle.com Received: from moutng.kundenserver.de (moutng.kundenserver.de [212.227.126.184]) by mycroft.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5D4D232C1F6 for ; Tue, 2 Nov 2004 15:56:57 -0800 (PST) Received: from [212.227.126.161] (helo=mrelayng.kundenserver.de) by moutng.kundenserver.de with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1) id 1CP8WG-0004wN-00 for majordomo-users@greatcircle.com; Wed, 03 Nov 2004 00:56:56 +0100 Received: from [80.129.16.227] (helo=[192.168.123.200]) by mrelayng.kundenserver.de with asmtp (Exim 3.35 #1) id 1CP8WG-0001l3-00 for majordomo-users@greatcircle.com; Wed, 03 Nov 2004 00:56:56 +0100 Message-ID: <41881EC9.9060408@h-quadrat.com> Date: Wed, 03 Nov 2004 00:56:57 +0100 From: Henning Heil Organization: H-Quadrat Software Consulting User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.2) Gecko/20040803 X-Accept-Language: de-de, en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: majordomo-users@greatcircle.com Subject: majordomo 1.94.5 nomail secrets?! Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Provags-ID: kundenserver.de abuse@kundenserver.de auth:02c6c32871fa996e514981131ec5031d X-Archive-Number: 200411/1 X-Sequence-Number: 4808 Hi there! My ISP was very gentle today and installed majordomo 1.94.5 and majorcool for me. Soon I found out majorcool could not handle all my needs and took a closer look to the config file - and came pretty close to what i desire! But one open case is still there: how can I get an address to be able to post messages but not to recieve them? I already learned that nomail is a majordomo 2 command and is not supported with 1.94.5 and then I googled a little more and found a workaround http://majordomo.valenciacc.edu/hypermail/terps-l/0409/0224.html (message by Joel Burrow) which seemed very logic to me but did not work (maybe because of the very basic installation of majordomo the ISP did). Can anyone give me a hint how to solve this? I only need "nomail" for one addess, so it would be nice if it would not take me a whole day :-) Thanks for your support, Henning From majordomo-users-owner@greatcircle.com Wed Nov 3 06:33:45 2004 X-Original-To: majordomo-users@greatcircle.com Received: from dizzy.okco.net (66.174.187.81.in-addr.arpa [81.187.174.66]) by mycroft.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C379532C1B7 for ; Wed, 3 Nov 2004 06:33:41 -0800 (PST) content-class: urn:content-classes:message Subject: 'To' address problem with catchall account MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Date: Wed, 3 Nov 2004 14:33:39 -0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.0.6249.0 Message-ID: X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: 'To' address problem with catchall account Thread-Index: AcTBskYUcJ8rAnX6SG60klgJ5v/m7Q== From: "Mark Salisbury" To: X-Archive-Number: 200411/2 X-Sequence-Number: 4809 Some members of one of the lists I am managing are having a problem with li= st emails received by their server in a common or catchall POP box. The hea= ders indicate that the re-sent email is addressed to the list address (e.g.= listname@lists.domain.com) and there is no mention of the intended recipie= nt (member of the list). Thus when their email server (exchange) empties th= e box, it doesn't know for whom the message is intended as there is no loca= l address, and delivers the messages to the default administrator address, = not to the intended recipient. Is there a way I can get Majordomo to properly address such re-sent message= s so that the intended recipient of each is explicit in the headers? Perhaps there's some document already out there somewhere! Thanks for any assistance. Mark. A full, but anonymised sample of what is received in the POP box (before th= e exchange server) is below: =46rom owner-listname@lists.domain.com Wed Nov 3 12:37:44 2004 Return-Path: Received: (from mail@localhost) by www.host-domain.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) id iA3Cbit03957; Wed, 3 Nov 2004 12:37:44 GMT Received: from dizzy.xyz.net (66.174.187.81.in-addr.arpa [81.187.174.66]) by www.host-domain.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id iA3CbiZ03953 for ; Wed, 3 Nov 2004 12:37:44 GMT content-class: urn:content-classes:message Subject: [listname] test list for mark MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3D"iso-8859-1" Date: Wed, 3 Nov 2004 12:36:28 -0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.0.6249.0 Message-ID: X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: test list for mark Thread-Index: AcTBoedyZkjhUNIoR9y3nAgqp5xS4g=3D=3D From: "Mark Salisbury" To: Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by www.host-domain.com = id iA3CbiZ03954 Sender: owner-listname@lists.domain.com Precedence: bulk Reply-To: listname@lists.domain.com X-Majordomo-Version: 1.94.4 This message from "Mark" test ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ This is the XXXXXXXXX mailing list. END OF SAMPLE Mark Salisbury B.Sc. ARCS Managing Director, The Oxford Knowledge Company Limited Woodside, Badger Lane, Hinksey Hill, Oxford OX1 5BE http://www.oxford-knowledge.com/ For SUPPORT, email support@oxford-knowledge.com local rate call: 08456 444 066 t: +44 (0)1865 322100 f: +44 (0)1865 322109 From majordomo-users-owner@greatcircle.com Wed Nov 3 07:01:13 2004 X-Original-To: majordomo-users@greatcircle.com Received: from cario.hostforweb.net (cario.hostforweb.net [66.225.230.82]) by mycroft.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 616A632C175 for ; Wed, 3 Nov 2004 07:01:07 -0800 (PST) Received: from adsl-64-169-240-41.dsl.sndg02.pacbell.net ([64.169.240.41] helo=[10.0.0.120]) by cario.hostforweb.net with esmtpsa (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.43) id 1CPMdI-0006re-2R; Wed, 03 Nov 2004 09:01:08 -0600 Message-ID: <4188F2AD.2070408@conveyanced.com> Date: Wed, 03 Nov 2004 07:01:01 -0800 From: Bill Houle User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 0.7.2 (Windows/20040707) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Mark Salisbury Cc: majordomo-users@greatcircle.com Subject: Re: 'To' address problem with catchall account References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Antivirus-Scanner: Clean mail though you should still use an Antivirus X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - cario.hostforweb.net X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - greatcircle.com X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - conveyanced.com X-Source: X-Source-Args: X-Source-Dir: X-Archive-Number: 200411/3 X-Sequence-Number: 4810 You said "get Majordomo to properly address", so I will take exception to that phrasing. This really has nothing to do with Majordomo or even the sending MTA. The two together -- properly and fully compliant to all RFCs -- encode the actual recipients as part of the envelope information, not as a tangible header. Catch-all mailboxes and 'mdaemon'-like processes are a kludge at best and it is the responsibility of the receiving MTA to extract any envelope info if it is needed down the line. This is usually done through "Envelope-to" or "Apparantly-To" headers or similar. But again, it is "properly" the function of the terminating MTA and local delivery agent. --bill Mark Salisbury wrote: >Some members of one of the lists I am managing are having a problem with list emails received by their server in a common or catchall POP box. The headers indicate that the re-sent email is addressed to the list address (e.g. listname@lists.domain.com) and there is no mention of the intended recipient (member of the list). Thus when their email server (exchange) empties the box, it doesn't know for whom the message is intended as there is no local address, and delivers the messages to the default administrator address, not to the intended recipient. > >Is there a way I can get Majordomo to properly address such re-sent messages so that the intended recipient of each is explicit in the headers? >Perhaps there's some document already out there somewhere! > >Thanks for any assistance. > >Mark. > > >A full, but anonymised sample of what is received in the POP box (before the exchange server) is below: > >From owner-listname@lists.domain.com Wed Nov 3 12:37:44 2004 >Return-Path: >Received: (from mail@localhost) > by www.host-domain.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) id iA3Cbit03957; > Wed, 3 Nov 2004 12:37:44 GMT >Received: from dizzy.xyz.net (66.174.187.81.in-addr.arpa [81.187.174.66]) > by www.host-domain.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id iA3CbiZ03953 > for ; Wed, 3 Nov 2004 12:37:44 GMT >content-class: urn:content-classes:message >Subject: [listname] test list for mark >MIME-Version: 1.0 >Content-Type: text/plain; > charset="iso-8859-1" >Date: Wed, 3 Nov 2004 12:36:28 -0000 >X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.0.6249.0 >Message-ID: >X-MS-Has-Attach: >X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: >Thread-Topic: test list for mark >Thread-Index: AcTBoedyZkjhUNIoR9y3nAgqp5xS4g== >From: "Mark Salisbury" >To: >Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit >X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by www.host-domain.com id iA3CbiZ03954 >Sender: owner-listname@lists.domain.com >Precedence: bulk >Reply-To: listname@lists.domain.com >X-Majordomo-Version: 1.94.4 > >This message from "Mark" >test > > > >++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ >This is the XXXXXXXXX mailing list. > > >END OF SAMPLE > >Mark Salisbury B.Sc. ARCS >Managing Director, The Oxford Knowledge Company Limited >Woodside, Badger Lane, Hinksey Hill, Oxford OX1 5BE >http://www.oxford-knowledge.com/ > >For SUPPORT, email support@oxford-knowledge.com > >local rate call: 08456 444 066 > >t: +44 (0)1865 322100 >f: +44 (0)1865 322109 > > From majordomo-users-owner@greatcircle.com Thu Nov 4 17:45:10 2004 X-Original-To: majordomo-users@greatcircle.com Received: from moutng.kundenserver.de (moutng.kundenserver.de [212.227.126.186]) by mycroft.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E2BBE32C1CD for ; Thu, 4 Nov 2004 17:45:09 -0800 (PST) Received: from [212.227.126.155] (helo=mrelayng.kundenserver.de) by moutng.kundenserver.de with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1) id 1CPtA4-0005qk-00 for majordomo-users@greatcircle.com; Fri, 05 Nov 2004 02:45:08 +0100 Received: from [80.129.7.209] (helo=[192.168.123.200]) by mrelayng.kundenserver.de with asmtp (Exim 3.35 #1) id 1CPtA4-0003HW-00 for majordomo-users@greatcircle.com; Fri, 05 Nov 2004 02:45:08 +0100 Message-ID: <418ADB24.4060807@h-quadrat.com> Date: Fri, 05 Nov 2004 02:45:08 +0100 From: Henning Heil Organization: H-Quadrat Software Consulting User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.2) Gecko/20040803 X-Accept-Language: de-de, en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: majordomo-users@greatcircle.com Subject: post but not recieve with 1.94.5 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Provags-ID: kundenserver.de abuse@kundenserver.de auth:02c6c32871fa996e514981131ec5031d X-Archive-Number: 200411/4 X-Sequence-Number: 4811 Hello! I posted a message here some days ago but did not receive an answer, maybe the subject was not choosen good enough or simply nobody knew a solution. One more try with a more short and direct problem description: I am running majordomo 1.94.5 and want to have adresses to be able to post but not recieve messages from the list. (Why? I want to use shorter e-mail-adresses as entry adresses for the lists, e.g. a mail to users@myuni.edu shell be forwarded to my_example_user_list_complicated_name@incrediblylongdomainname.com and then being processed there.) Can anyone help me out how to accomplish that? I googled two more days but could not find a solution. Could restrict_post :onemoreaddress@myuni.edu work? Thanks for your help (if any comes), Henning From majordomo-users-owner@greatcircle.com Fri Nov 5 09:43:09 2004 X-Original-To: majordomo-users@greatcircle.com Received: from its-emb1.umflint.edu (its-emb1.umflint.edu [141.216.3.225]) by mycroft.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id BECAA32C1BD for ; Fri, 5 Nov 2004 09:43:08 -0800 (PST) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5.7226.0 Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: Restricting Lists Date: Fri, 5 Nov 2004 12:42:32 -0500 Message-ID: <5CA50EE3B0DAED4D88DAF892DE34282B40E953@its-emb1.umflint.edu> X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: Restricting Lists Thread-Index: AcTDXtQxW2IA8dqwQ8iltSeSxJq1ZA== From: "Gaspar, Nicholas" To: X-Archive-Number: 200411/5 X-Sequence-Number: 4812 Hello, Does anyone know how to retrict a list so only certain people not contained in a list can send to it. For example I have a list called test and it populated with various people and I have a file called test-senders that contains a list of a few people who are the only people that can send to the list test. I went into the config file and told the test list to look at this file in the retstict_post option, but it doesn't work. From the research I have done it looks like I need to alter or add an alias to do this, but I'm not sure exactly how to change the pre-existing alias so it will work.=20=20 Can anyone help? Im running Majordomo 1.94.5 Thanks, Nicholas Gaspar ITS Helpdesk ITS Network Support Staff 766-6804 From majordomo-users-owner@greatcircle.com Fri Nov 5 10:30:57 2004 X-Original-To: majordomo-users@greatcircle.com Received: from wrenkasky.com (esson.net [216.102.129.43]) by mycroft.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5C38A32C2EF for ; Fri, 5 Nov 2004 10:30:56 -0800 (PST) Received: from KASKY.esson.net (kasky.priority.usc.edu [128.125.63.85]) (authenticated bits=0) by wrenkasky.com (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id iA5IUrsM027571 for ; Fri, 5 Nov 2004 10:30:54 -0800 Message-Id: <6.0.0.22.2.20041105102538.01c2be08@mail.esson.net> X-Sender: ed@mail.esson.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 6.0.0.22 Date: Fri, 05 Nov 2004 10:30:53 -0800 To: From: Ed Kasky Subject: Re: Restricting Lists In-Reply-To: <5CA50EE3B0DAED4D88DAF892DE34282B40E953@its-emb1.umflint.ed u> References: <5CA50EE3B0DAED4D88DAF892DE34282B40E953@its-emb1.umflint.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Received-SPF: pass (wrenkasky.com: 128.125.63.85 is authenticated by a trusted mechanism) X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV 0.80/565/Sat Oct 30 06:31:13 2004 clamav-milter version 0.80j on yoda2.wrenkasky.com X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Archive-Number: 200411/6 X-Sequence-Number: 4813 1. Does your test-senders file meet the following requirements: restrict_post [restrict_post] (undef) If defined, only addresses listed in these files (colon or space separated) can post to the mailing list. By default, these files are relative to the lists directory. 2. Does your list.config have the following line: restrict_post = test-senders I have never had to change an alias to restrict posting to a list. It is done by setting the list.config file per the instructions above... At 09:42 AM Friday, 11/5/2004, you wrote -=> >Hello, > >Does anyone know how to retrict a list so only certain people not >contained in a list can send to it. For example I have a list called >test and it populated with various people and I have a file called >test-senders that contains a list of a few people who are the only >people that can send to the list test. I went into the config file >and told the test list to look at this file in the retstict_post >option, but it doesn't work. From the research I have done it looks >like I need to alter or add an alias to do this, but I'm not sure >exactly how to change the pre-existing alias so it will work. > >Can anyone help? >Im running Majordomo 1.94.5 Ed . . . . . . . . It is inaccurate to say I hate everything. I am strongly in favor of common sense, common honesty, and common decency. This makes me forever ineligible for public office. -H.L. Mencken, writer, editor, and critic (1880-1956) From majordomo-users-owner@greatcircle.com Fri Nov 5 10:38:37 2004 X-Original-To: majordomo-users@greatcircle.com Received: from mail.ccbnpts.com (ccbi-gw.norlight.net [207.170.5.141]) by mycroft.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C729132C2EF for ; Fri, 5 Nov 2004 10:38:36 -0800 (PST) Received: from ccb2vpjza ([192.168.2.114]) by mail.ccbnpts.com (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id iA5IbnjB014902 for ; Fri, 5 Nov 2004 12:37:49 -0600 From: "IT Dept" To: Subject: Re: post but not recieve with 1.94.5 Date: Fri, 5 Nov 2004 12:37:50 -0600 Message-ID: <008d01c4c366$8d88cd90$7202a8c0@ccb2vpjza> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.2627 In-Reply-To: <418ADB24.4060807@h-quadrat.com> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1441 Importance: Normal X-Archive-Number: 200411/7 X-Sequence-Number: 4814 Just do a 'restrict-post' list using a manually maintained authorised list (or you can have it pulling from another Mjd list that it can "see") as the 'restrict_post =' value. Then just have the senders address in the "allowed" list but not in the actual list that the message is being sent to. That will allow them to send but not receive. There is a discription of the 'restrict_post =' value in the config settings file. Send 'config ' to your Mjd address (usually majordomo@[domain.name]) and you should be able to read up on what needs to be done. Note the above will prevent the list from sending to it's self too so you might need to work around that if you want them to send too. Good luck. Paul Pettit IT Manager CCB Inc. -----Original Message----- From: majordomo-users-owner@greatcircle.com [mailto:majordomo-users-owner@greatcircle.com] On Behalf Of Henning Heil Sent: Thursday, November 04, 2004 7:45 PM To: majordomo-users@greatcircle.com Subject: post but not recieve with 1.94.5 Hello! I posted a message here some days ago but did not receive an answer, maybe the subject was not choosen good enough or simply nobody knew a solution. One more try with a more short and direct problem description: I am running majordomo 1.94.5 and want to have adresses to be able to post but not recieve messages from the list. (Why? I want to use shorter e-mail-adresses as entry adresses for the lists, e.g. a mail to users@myuni.edu shell be forwarded to my_example_user_list_complicated_name@incrediblylongdomainname.com and then being processed there.) Can anyone help me out how to accomplish that? I googled two more days but could not find a solution. Could restrict_post :onemoreaddress@myuni.edu work? Thanks for your help (if any comes), Henning From majordomo-users-owner@greatcircle.com Fri Nov 5 10:51:18 2004 X-Original-To: majordomo-users@greatcircle.com Received: from mail.ccbnpts.com (ccbi-gw.norlight.net [207.170.5.141]) by mycroft.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 32F6932C2FC for ; Fri, 5 Nov 2004 10:51:17 -0800 (PST) Received: from ccb2vpjza ([192.168.2.114]) by mail.ccbnpts.com (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id iA5IoUjB016302 for ; Fri, 5 Nov 2004 12:50:30 -0600 From: "IT Dept" To: Subject: Re: Restricting Lists Date: Fri, 5 Nov 2004 12:50:30 -0600 Message-ID: <008e01c4c368$530cf630$7202a8c0@ccb2vpjza> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.2627 In-Reply-To: <5CA50EE3B0DAED4D88DAF892DE34282B40E953@its-emb1.umflint.edu> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1441 Importance: Normal X-Archive-Number: 200411/8 X-Sequence-Number: 4815 I have several lists like this and have never had a problem with the 'restrict-post' function. Is the authorised sender list located in the same dir that the test list files are? Do you have the $PATH set right in the list.config file? (i.e. must be *relative* not absolute) Are the names properly seperated (by a ',' or a ' ')? Does the list work without the 'restrict-post' setting set? If the answer to all the above is 'yes' then got me why it doesn't work. I have lists that use other lists as the 'restrict-post' setting and others that use totally manual lists to limit sending. I'll see if there is anything I'm missing (it has been a while) but other than the above I can't see why it wouldn't work. Paul Pettit IT Manager CCB Inc. -----Original Message----- From: majordomo-users-owner@greatcircle.com [mailto:majordomo-users-owner@greatcircle.com] On Behalf Of Gaspar, Nicholas Sent: Friday, November 05, 2004 11:43 AM To: majordomo-users@greatcircle.com Subject: Restricting Lists Hello, Does anyone know how to retrict a list so only certain people not contained in a list can send to it. For example I have a list called test and it populated with various people and I have a file called test-senders that contains a list of a few people who are the only people that can send to the list test. I went into the config file and told the test list to look at this file in the retstict_post option, but it doesn't work. From the research I have done it looks like I need to alter or add an alias to do this, but I'm not sure exactly how to change the pre-existing alias so it will work. Can anyone help? Im running Majordomo 1.94.5 Thanks, Nicholas Gaspar ITS Helpdesk ITS Network Support Staff 766-6804 From majordomo-users-owner@greatcircle.com Mon Nov 8 14:38:15 2004 X-Original-To: majordomo-users@greatcircle.com Received: from S2.cableone.net (smtp2.cableone.net [24.116.0.228]) by mycroft.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 16DA032C37A for ; Mon, 8 Nov 2004 14:38:05 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail.sonny.com (unverified [24.116.58.25]) by S2.cableone.net (CableOne SMTP Service S2) with ESMTP id 949912 for multiple; Mon, 08 Nov 2004 15:42:04 -0700 Received: from sonny.org (dad.liston.nu [192.168.1.60]) (authenticated bits=0) by mail.sonny.com (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id iA8MbwpP009423 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5 bits=128 verify=NO); Mon, 8 Nov 2004 16:38:00 -0600 Message-ID: <418FF55A.7080109@sonny.org> Date: Mon, 08 Nov 2004 16:38:18 -0600 From: Daniel Liston User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.4) Gecko/20030624 Netscape/7.1 (ax) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Henning Heil Cc: majordomo-users@greatcircle.com Subject: Re: majordomo 1.94.5 nomail secrets?! References: <41881EC9.9060408@h-quadrat.com> In-Reply-To: <41881EC9.9060408@h-quadrat.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Abuse-Info: Send abuse complaints to abuse@cableone.net X-Archive-Number: 200411/9 X-Sequence-Number: 4816 The "secret" is to create another list that works via restrict_post from the first list. The second list goes unadvertised and usually has a name similar to the first list. Dan Liston Henning Heil wrote: > Hi there! > > My ISP was very gentle today and installed majordomo 1.94.5 and > majorcool for me. Soon I found out majorcool could not handle all my > needs and took a closer look to the config file - and came pretty close > to what i desire! > > But one open case is still there: how can I get an address to be able to > post messages but not to recieve them? I already learned that nomail is > a majordomo 2 command and is not supported with 1.94.5 and then I > googled a little more and found a workaround > > http://majordomo.valenciacc.edu/hypermail/terps-l/0409/0224.html > (message by Joel Burrow) > > which seemed very logic to me but did not work (maybe because of the > very basic installation of majordomo the ISP did). > > Can anyone give me a hint how to solve this? I only need "nomail" for > one addess, so it would be nice if it would not take me a whole day :-) > > Thanks for your support, > > Henning From majordomo-users-owner@greatcircle.com Mon Nov 8 14:46:00 2004 X-Original-To: majordomo-users@greatcircle.com Received: from S2.cableone.net (smtp2.cableone.net [24.116.0.228]) by mycroft.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 63E1732C390 for ; Mon, 8 Nov 2004 14:45:58 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail.sonny.com (unverified [24.116.58.25]) by S2.cableone.net (CableOne SMTP Service S2) with ESMTP id 950773 for multiple; Mon, 08 Nov 2004 15:49:58 -0700 Received: from sonny.org (dad.liston.nu [192.168.1.60]) (authenticated bits=0) by mail.sonny.com (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id iA8MjqpP009715 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5 bits=128 verify=NO); Mon, 8 Nov 2004 16:45:54 -0600 Message-ID: <418FF734.6020404@sonny.org> Date: Mon, 08 Nov 2004 16:46:12 -0600 From: Daniel Liston User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.4) Gecko/20030624 Netscape/7.1 (ax) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Thomas Kernes Cc: majordomo-users@greatcircle.com Subject: Re: UID Problems References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Abuse-Info: Send abuse complaints to abuse@cableone.net X-Archive-Number: 200411/10 X-Sequence-Number: 4817 Here is what "I" do with majordomo.cf, but I have a dedicated server for my domain. (if that matters) as the root user, ln -s /usr/lib/majordomo/majordomo.cf /etc/majordomo.cf Then you can leave the original owned by majordomo:majordomo. Dan Liston Thomas Kernes wrote: > I realize this has been asked several times, but I was searching through the > archives and did not find an effective answer. > > I am on FreeBSD 4.7 running Perl 5.8.4 and I am getting this error when > running the wrapper: > > ------------------------------------------------------------ > ---------------- Config-test for Majordomo ---------------- > ------------------------------------------------------------ > > > --------------------- Obvious things: --------------------- > ------------------ environment variables ------------------ > HOME=/usr/local/majordomo > LOGNAME=xxx > MAJORDOMO_CF=/usr/local/majordomo/majordomo.cf > PATH=/bin:/usr/bin > SHELL=/bin/sh > USER=xxx > --------------------- euid/egid checks --------------------- > effective user = xxx > effective group = xxx > ---------------------- uid/gid checks ---------------------- > real user = xxx > real group = xxx > ------------------------------------------------------------ > > Non obvious things that cause headaches: > > ------------------------------------------------------------ > Config file "/usr/local/majordomo/majordomo.cf" not owned by effective UID. > > > I have all of the user/group permissions set to majordom/majordom and I am > still having these problems. I tried changing it to root just to see what > would happen and no go there as well. > > Any advice would be appreciated. > > Thank you. > > Thomas Kernes > > From majordomo-users-owner@greatcircle.com Mon Nov 8 15:06:45 2004 X-Original-To: Majordomo-Users@greatcircle.com Received: from S3.cableone.net (smtp3.cableone.net [24.116.0.229]) by mycroft.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 59DB832C1F4 for ; Mon, 8 Nov 2004 15:06:44 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail.sonny.com (unverified [24.116.58.25]) by S3.cableone.net (CableOne SMTP Service S3) with ESMTP id 928312 for multiple; Mon, 08 Nov 2004 16:10:22 -0700 Received: from sonny.org (dad.liston.nu [192.168.1.60]) (authenticated bits=0) by mail.sonny.com (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id iA8N6apP010199 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5 bits=128 verify=NO); Mon, 8 Nov 2004 17:06:41 -0600 Message-ID: <418FFC0F.1040206@sonny.org> Date: Mon, 08 Nov 2004 17:06:55 -0600 From: Daniel Liston User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.4) Gecko/20030624 Netscape/7.1 (ax) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: joelh@cnu.edu Cc: Majordomo-Users@greatcircle.com Subject: Re: majordomo w/iplanet on solaris References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Abuse-Info: Send abuse complaints to abuse@cableone.net X-Archive-Number: 200411/11 X-Sequence-Number: 4818 I actually authored that section of the blueprints book. Unfortunately, some typos slipped through the editing process. I think I still have a solaris9, majordomo, iplanet5.2 with ldap configuration around here somewhere. I think I have a DOC posted on www.sonny.com too, or I may have already posted it here. I have to go dig thru my archives. Dan Liston Joel Harrison wrote: > > I am using Majordom 1.94.5 on a Solaris 2.9 host which > was installed from 04/2004 media. The perl version > which came pre-loaded is 5.6.1. The "sendmail" processes > have been disabled. Instead the mailing agent "Sun One > Messaging Server 5.2, HotFix 1.14" is used. > > I cannot integrate the "majordomo" package with the MTA > Sun One Messaging Server. I am using the techniques from > the book Sun One Messaging Server (Appendix B) which > provide detailed LDAP/MTA steps to do the setup. This > content was also provided by Sun support in the form of > text instructions. > I can now add myself to the list, quiz the properties of > the list "test", etcetera. When I try to mail to it, > it aborts with the message: > > Your message has been enqueued and undeliverable for 2 days > to the following recipients: > > Recipient address: test%testr@pipe-daemon > Original address: test@cnu.edu > Reason: unable to deliver this message after 2 days > > Are there other help sources to integrate majordomo with > our unusual MTA? I have done very complicated setups and > I am almost there. I have desk checked by command-line > actions to see that I following the scripts/procedures. > > Both SUN and the third party agent "Sun One" have provided > me this text help and said I was on my own if there were > any snags. > > From majordomo-users-owner@greatcircle.com Mon Nov 8 15:10:28 2004 X-Original-To: Majordomo-users@greatcircle.com Received: from S4.cableone.net (smtp4.cableone.net [24.116.0.230]) by mycroft.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id AD9EC32C309 for ; Mon, 8 Nov 2004 15:10:27 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail.sonny.com (unverified [24.116.58.25]) by S4.cableone.net (CableOne SMTP Service S4) with ESMTP id 916526 for multiple; Mon, 08 Nov 2004 16:11:08 -0700 Received: from sonny.org (dad.liston.nu [192.168.1.60]) (authenticated bits=0) by mail.sonny.com (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id iA8NAJpP010378 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5 bits=128 verify=NO); Mon, 8 Nov 2004 17:10:21 -0600 Message-ID: <418FFCEF.1060003@sonny.org> Date: Mon, 08 Nov 2004 17:10:39 -0600 From: Daniel Liston User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.4) Gecko/20030624 Netscape/7.1 (ax) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: JWang@fhsu.edu Cc: Majordomo-users@greatcircle.com Subject: Re: list configuration file References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Abuse-Info: Send abuse complaints to abuse@cableone.net X-Archive-Number: 200411/12 X-Sequence-Number: 4819 If you send a "lists" command to majordomo, a "default" file.config should be created for you. You could also send an administrative command to retrieve the config via email, which you can edit and send back with another administrative command. Dan Liston JWang@fhsu.edu wrote: > Each list has a configuration file associated with it, for example > tiger.config. Who knows how to create a list configuration? Thanks! From majordomo-users-owner@greatcircle.com Mon Nov 8 15:49:51 2004 X-Original-To: Majordomo-users@greatcircle.com Received: from S3.cableone.net (smtp3.cableone.net [24.116.0.229]) by mycroft.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 55DA932C17C for ; Mon, 8 Nov 2004 15:49:50 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail.sonny.com (unverified [24.116.58.25]) by S3.cableone.net (CableOne SMTP Service S3) with ESMTP id 933271 for multiple; Mon, 08 Nov 2004 16:53:22 -0700 Received: from sonny.org (dad.liston.nu [192.168.1.60]) (authenticated bits=0) by mail.sonny.com (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id iA8NnZpP010787 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5 bits=128 verify=NO); Mon, 8 Nov 2004 17:49:40 -0600 Message-ID: <41900622.6060100@sonny.org> Date: Mon, 08 Nov 2004 17:49:54 -0600 From: Daniel Liston User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.4) Gecko/20030624 Netscape/7.1 (ax) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Gino Lucrezi Cc: Majordomo-users@greatcircle.com, Jens Ibsen Subject: Re: Question about mailing lists References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Abuse-Info: Send abuse complaints to abuse@cableone.net X-Archive-Number: 200411/13 X-Sequence-Number: 4820 Please send your patch to the list, and perhap to Joes site, along with a note of what it does. Even if the "regulars" here may not have the same needs as your site, there are many who only google that will have use for your patch, and be able to find it. Dan Liston Gino Lucrezi wrote: >>I am manging a mailing list on majordomo that is primarily used to send >>out a newsletter. When people sign up they immediately receive at >>"majordomo results" mail - often with a long technical page they have no >>clue about what to do with - it is confusing to them. Is there a way to >>avoid that these "majordomo results" mails are send out to new > > subscribers after they have signed up? > > I had the very same problem. > I used Dan Liston's "s u b s c r i b e" script, so that users would only have to write to listname-zubscribe@myserver with whatever contents they liked, instead of having to write to majordomo with a line containing "zubscribe listname". > This greatly simplified processing, but they received these "majordomo results" which didn't mean a thing to them, because they didn't even know they had issued a Majordomo command :-) > > So I patched both majordomo and the zubscribe script, so that under most circumstances these results aren't sent to the user. They only get sent if the user issues many commands and/or if there is an error message. > > If you're interested I'll wrap up the patch and post it here. > > Gino Lucrezi > > From majordomo-users-owner@greatcircle.com Mon Nov 8 15:58:37 2004 X-Original-To: majordomo-users@greatcircle.com Received: from S4.cableone.net (smtp4.cableone.net [24.116.0.230]) by mycroft.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B216732C2FA for ; Mon, 8 Nov 2004 15:58:36 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail.sonny.com (unverified [24.116.58.25]) by S4.cableone.net (CableOne SMTP Service S4) with ESMTP id 922020 for multiple; Mon, 08 Nov 2004 16:57:52 -0700 Received: from sonny.org (dad.liston.nu [192.168.1.60]) (authenticated bits=0) by mail.sonny.com (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id iA8Nv3pP010983 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5 bits=128 verify=NO); Mon, 8 Nov 2004 17:57:05 -0600 Message-ID: <419007E2.2060703@sonny.org> Date: Mon, 08 Nov 2004 17:57:22 -0600 From: Daniel Liston User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.4) Gecko/20030624 Netscape/7.1 (ax) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "Adam H. Kerman" Cc: majordomo-users@greatcircle.com Subject: Re: Nested and overlapping lists References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Abuse-Info: Send abuse complaints to abuse@cableone.net X-Archive-Number: 200411/14 X-Sequence-Number: 4821 Rule #1, NEVER put anyone on a list they did not specifically sign up to be on. Using classmates.com as an example, there are many if not most that do not mind being contacted from this site for their standard announcements. Now introduce reunion.com, that uses both it's own membership, plus that of classmates.com to annoy, I mean announce, you with information. Users from classmates should not be automatically assumed to be interested in reunion, regardless of their small similarities. As soon as I can remember my credentials, I will remove myself from the classmates membership, simply because my contact information was shared with reunion. You don't want this to happen on your lists, do you? Dan Liston Adam H. Kerman wrote: > How do you all handle nested lists with Majordomo? > > I have a situation in which there are three related mailing lists. One of the > lists includes most, but not all, of the members of the other two lists, so > they aren't truly nested. A few people on subscribed to both of the two smaller > lists. > > I was trying to avoid having people subscribed to more than one of these lists, > so I'd set up a fourth list with just the subscribers to the two smaller lists > on it. That worked awkwardly, but did what I wanted till the situation came up > in which not all the subscribers of the smaller lists should be on the larger > list, so they could no longer be nested. > > On the theory that Majordomo's lack of feature bloat is an advantage, who has > come up with a kludge for this type of situation? > > I'd like something like chmod's permission values of 4, 2, 1, 0 that can be > added in unique combinations to get the wanted result. So, each list would have > (D, C, B, A) a different value, add up the values for a result and then put the > subscriber on combined list 5 if he wishes to be on lists D and B. I'd like > some way of automating that to an extent. From majordomo-users-owner@greatcircle.com Mon Nov 8 16:02:46 2004 X-Original-To: majordomo-users@greatcircle.com Received: from S2.cableone.net (smtp2.cableone.net [24.116.0.228]) by mycroft.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4BAF532C307 for ; Mon, 8 Nov 2004 16:02:46 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail.sonny.com (unverified [24.116.58.25]) by S2.cableone.net (CableOne SMTP Service S2) with ESMTP id 959456 for multiple; Mon, 08 Nov 2004 17:06:32 -0700 Received: from sonny.org (dad.liston.nu [192.168.1.60]) (authenticated bits=0) by mail.sonny.com (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id iA902QpP011188 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5 bits=128 verify=NO); Mon, 8 Nov 2004 18:02:28 -0600 Message-ID: <41900925.3040607@sonny.org> Date: Mon, 08 Nov 2004 18:02:45 -0600 From: Daniel Liston User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.4) Gecko/20030624 Netscape/7.1 (ax) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Stewart Dean Cc: majordomo-users@greatcircle.com Subject: Re: Majordomo performance issue References: <4162C9ED.1070301@bard.edu> In-Reply-To: <4162C9ED.1070301@bard.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Abuse-Info: Send abuse complaints to abuse@cableone.net X-Archive-Number: 200411/15 X-Sequence-Number: 4822 You may want to consider examining this section of the majordomo.cf file; # You can force Majordomo to delay any processing if the system load is too # high by uncommenting the following lines. THIS ONLY WORKS if your "uptime" # command (usually found in /usr/bin/uptime or /usr/bsd/uptime) # returns a string like: # 5:23pm up 5:51, 9 users, load average: 0.19, 0.25, 0.33 # $max_loadavg = 10; # Choose the maximum allowed load # $uptime = `/usr/bin/uptime` if -x '/usr/bin/uptime'; # Get system uptime #$uptime = `/usr/bsd/uptime` if -x '/usr/bsd/uptime'; # or uptime is over here. # ($avg_1_minute, $avg_5_minutes, $avg_15_minutes) = $uptime =~ /average:\s+(\S+),\s+(\S+),\s+(\S+)/; # exit 75 if ($avg_15_minutes >= $max_loadavg); # E_TEMPFAIL # Tune to your specific needs of course. On my little 400Mhz single proc intel box, I set $max_loadavg=2. Dan Liston Stewart Dean wrote: > I'm trying to improve my MD mailing list throughput/latency. What I see > when I run a 300-400 member list (on 4way IBM AIX box without much other > load) > onesey-twoseys > is that: > 1 - TIME) it takes MD about 2-4 minutes to process the list (or that's > the time so far elapsed when in shows up in the mail syslog loggin), > then it takes another 10-20 minutes for sendmail to fire off all the > individual messages. > 2 - CPU LOAD) while MD is processes there's a considerable load, say > 5-10% for the MD process, but after MD is done, the sendmail load > thereafter is negligible, hardly shows up at all. > > Alas, there's a ^&%$#@$head that submits mailing for the > non-authorized. This person has been requested to space things out, but > noooooooooooooooo, this person saves them up, then dumps them all in the > hoper at once. Basic exercise in making impossible queues and > latency....75 such mailing within 2 hours, 135 within four. What I have > seen then is: > 1 - TIME) growing latency in the MD preprocess time....it begins at 2-4 > minutes as above, then grows to 1 to 2 hours as the system is under > siege...finally, when the submissions stop slow down or stop, the > latency decreases back to 2-4 minutes. Oddly enough, sendmail > processing time is unchanged...even when the MD time has risen over an > hour, it only take SM 10-25 minutes > 2 - CPU LOAD) The 5-10% load per mailing rapidly snowballs to a 80-100% > load. > > Can anyone direct me on how to tune the MD processing? From majordomo-users-owner@greatcircle.com Mon Nov 8 16:06:06 2004 X-Original-To: majordomo-users@greatcircle.com Received: from S1.cableone.net (smtp1.cableone.net [24.116.0.227]) by mycroft.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 826D932C2B0 for ; Mon, 8 Nov 2004 16:06:05 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail.sonny.com (unverified [24.116.58.25]) by S1.cableone.net (CableOne SMTP Service S1) with ESMTP id 931325 for multiple; Mon, 08 Nov 2004 17:08:51 -0700 Received: from sonny.org (dad.liston.nu [192.168.1.60]) (authenticated bits=0) by mail.sonny.com (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id iA905wpP011372 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5 bits=128 verify=NO); Mon, 8 Nov 2004 18:06:00 -0600 Message-ID: <419009FA.7020006@sonny.org> Date: Mon, 08 Nov 2004 18:06:18 -0600 From: Daniel Liston User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.4) Gecko/20030624 Netscape/7.1 (ax) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Stewart Dean Cc: majordomo-users@greatcircle.com Subject: Re: How does Majordomo submit mail? References: <4162CC06.2070507@bard.edu> In-Reply-To: <4162CC06.2070507@bard.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Abuse-Info: Send abuse complaints to abuse@cableone.net X-Archive-Number: 200411/16 X-Sequence-Number: 4823 Majordomo calls the sendmail binary directly, for outgoing/distributing email, without using the network ports at all. Here is another chunk of majordomo.cf for your perusal... # $sendmail_command -- Pathname to the sendmail program # usually /usr/lib/sendmail, but some newer BSD systems # seem to prefer /usr/sbin/sendmail # # $sendmail_command = "/usr/lib/sendmail"; $sendmail_command = "/usr/sbin/sendmail"; # $mailer -- What program and args do I use to send mail to the list? # $bounce_mailer -- What is used to send mail anywhere else? # The variables $to, $from, $subject, and $sender can be interpolated into # this command line. Note, however, that the $to, $from, and $subject # variables may be provided by the person sending mail, and much mischief # can be had by playing with this variable. It is perfectly safe to use # $sender, but the others are insecure. # # Sendmail option -oi: Do not take a . on a line by itself as the message # terminator. # Sendmail option -oee: Force sendmail to exit with a zero exit status if # if it's not going to give useful information. # $mailer = "$sendmail_command -oi -oee -f\$sender"; $bounce_mailer = "$sendmail_command -oi -oee -f\$sender -t"; Dan Liston Stewart Dean wrote: > There are two ways mail can come 'at' sendmail > 1) it can appear at port 25 > 2) it can be processed from the mail queue > > Normally, a mail message first shows up at port 25, then, if there's > delivery problems, it's put on the queue for later persistent attempts. > The BatBook (3rd Ed. Section 6.2.1) suggests to have two sendmail > instances, one that watches port 25 and has very quick timeouts (so it > doesn't hang with delivery problem mail, but tosses them in the mail > queue) , another with normal long timeouts for processing the mail queue. > > I've put this in place on our mailing list server, but then I got > wondering. Does MD submit the mail directly to sendmail via port25 or > does it put the mail directly in the mail queue? If so, my fast > processing, short timeout sendmail daemon listening on port 25 never > gets a chance at the mailing list... > > Which is it? From majordomo-users-owner@greatcircle.com Mon Nov 8 16:09:03 2004 X-Original-To: majordomo-users@greatcircle.com Received: from S4.cableone.net (smtp4.cableone.net [24.116.0.230]) by mycroft.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2ACE632C380 for ; Mon, 8 Nov 2004 16:09:02 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail.sonny.com (unverified [24.116.58.25]) by S4.cableone.net (CableOne SMTP Service S4) with ESMTP id 923294 for multiple; Mon, 08 Nov 2004 17:09:46 -0700 Received: from sonny.org (dad.liston.nu [192.168.1.60]) (authenticated bits=0) by mail.sonny.com (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id iA908vpP011536 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5 bits=128 verify=NO); Mon, 8 Nov 2004 18:08:59 -0600 Message-ID: <41900AAC.9010405@sonny.org> Date: Mon, 08 Nov 2004 18:09:16 -0600 From: Daniel Liston User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.4) Gecko/20030624 Netscape/7.1 (ax) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Andrew Weisz Cc: majordomo-users@greatcircle.com Subject: Re: MajorDomo Personalized E-mails References: <53245.216.94.245.230.1095806168.squirrel@perfectmail.aei.on.ca> In-Reply-To: <53245.216.94.245.230.1095806168.squirrel@perfectmail.aei.on.ca> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Abuse-Info: Send abuse complaints to abuse@cableone.net X-Archive-Number: 200411/17 X-Sequence-Number: 4824 Catching up with the really old stuff now. I have been away toooo long. Simple answer "no". Complex answer "yes", but you have to rewrite many of the routines in majordomo. This question actually gets asked/answered several times a year. I am surprised your archive search did not turn something up. Dan Liston Andrew Weisz wrote: > Hi there, > > I've been searching through the FAQ's, the mailing list user archives, and > the majordomo documentation, but have found no answer, so here I am. > > Is it possible to have personalized E-mails within the body of an E-mail > message when sending out an E-mail to a mailing list? (Ie: sending out an > E-mail message to somelist@somedomain.com) > > Dear , > > ... > > Thanks. > > Andrew. From majordomo-users-owner@greatcircle.com Mon Nov 8 16:12:28 2004 X-Original-To: majordomo-users@greatcircle.com Received: from S2.cableone.net (smtp2.cableone.net [24.116.0.228]) by mycroft.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 144E032C346 for ; Mon, 8 Nov 2004 16:12:28 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail.sonny.com (unverified [24.116.58.25]) by S2.cableone.net (CableOne SMTP Service S2) with ESMTP id 960460 for multiple; Mon, 08 Nov 2004 17:16:30 -0700 Received: from sonny.org (dad.liston.nu [192.168.1.60]) (authenticated bits=0) by mail.sonny.com (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id iA90CMpP011741 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5 bits=128 verify=NO); Mon, 8 Nov 2004 18:12:26 -0600 Message-ID: <41900B79.5040009@sonny.org> Date: Mon, 08 Nov 2004 18:12:41 -0600 From: Daniel Liston User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.4) Gecko/20030624 Netscape/7.1 (ax) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Charlie Smith Cc: majordomo-users@greatcircle.com Subject: Re: User unknown with entry in virtusertable. References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Abuse-Info: Send abuse complaints to abuse@cableone.net X-Archive-Number: 200411/18 X-Sequence-Number: 4825 I do not see that anyone replied about this, but the first thing I see is the error message expanding "listname-list". This is not the name of your list in the virtusertable or the aliases file. In those files, the expansion should be on "listnamet" or "listnamet-list". Dan Liston Charlie Smith wrote: > Why would I be getting a User unknown error? > > ----- The following addresses had permanent fatal errors ----- > listnamet-list > (reason: 553 5.3.0 ... User unknown) > (expanded from: listname-list) > > entry in aliases file: > > owner-listnamet: listnamet-owner > listnamet: "|/opt/majordomo-1.94.5/wrapper resend -l listnamet listnamet-list" > listnamet-owner: myaddress@otherdomain.org, > listnamet-approval: listnamet-owner > listnamet-list: > :include:/opt/majordomo-1.94.5/lists/listnamet,listnamet-archiver,listnamet-digestify > listnamet-archiver: "|/opt/majordomo-1.94.5/wrapper archive2.pl -f > /opt/majordomo-1.94.5/lists/listnamet.archive/listnamet -a -M" > listnamet-digestify: "|/opt/majordomo-1.94.5/wrapper digest -r -C -l > listnamet-digest listnamet-digest-list", > #listnamet-request: "|/opt/majordomo-1.94.5/wrapper majordomo -l listnamet" > listnamet-request: "|/opt/majordomo-1.94.5/wrapper request-answer listnamet" > listnamet-digest: listnamet > listnamet-digest-owner: listnamet-owner > listnamet-digest-request: listnamet-owner > listnamet-digest-approval: listnamet-owner > > > entry in virtusertable: > listnamet-list@mydomain.org error:nouser User unknown > listnamet-digest-list@mydomain.org error:nouser User unknown > > > > Charlie ;) > 9/20/04 > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > This message may contain confidential information, and is > intended only for the use of the individual(s) to whom it > is addressed. > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > This message may contain confidential information, and is > intended only for the use of the individual(s) to whom it > is addressed. > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ From majordomo-users-owner@greatcircle.com Mon Nov 8 16:18:10 2004 X-Original-To: Majordomo-Users@greatcircle.com Received: from S3.cableone.net (smtp3.cableone.net [24.116.0.229]) by mycroft.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6DBE532C1B2 for ; Mon, 8 Nov 2004 16:18:09 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail.sonny.com (unverified [24.116.58.25]) by S3.cableone.net (CableOne SMTP Service S3) with ESMTP id 936209 for multiple; Mon, 08 Nov 2004 17:21:41 -0700 Received: from sonny.org (dad.liston.nu [192.168.1.60]) (authenticated bits=0) by mail.sonny.com (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id iA90HvpP011935 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5 bits=128 verify=NO); Mon, 8 Nov 2004 18:18:00 -0600 Message-ID: <41900CC8.7060602@sonny.org> Date: Mon, 08 Nov 2004 18:18:16 -0600 From: Daniel Liston User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.4) Gecko/20030624 Netscape/7.1 (ax) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "Doll, Roland A." Cc: Majordomo-Users@greatcircle.com Subject: Re: First time using Majordomo References: <003601c4a259$d2654de0$6401a8c0@rdnotebook> In-Reply-To: <003601c4a259$d2654de0$6401a8c0@rdnotebook> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Abuse-Info: Send abuse complaints to abuse@cableone.net X-Archive-Number: 200411/19 X-Sequence-Number: 4826 Are you editing files directly on the majordomo server, or are you sending email commands to majordomo to have it send you the .config file for your list, which you edit on some other workstation, then send the file back to majordomo in another email? Either way, the reply_to = some.address@internet.domain or reply_to = yourlist@yourdomain.com is put into the .config file for your list, and saved on the majordomo server before the setting becomes active. Dan Liston Doll, Roland A. wrote: > Hi, > > I just started with Majordomo and I am not able to configure my mailing > list. I simply do not understand, how to use the commands properly. > E.g. if I would like to configure a reply-to address for my mailing > list, I am supposed to use the following command (as far as I > understood): > > # reply_to [word] () > > # Put a reply-to header with value into the outgoing > > # message. If the token $SENDER is used, then the address of the > > # sender is used as the value of the reply-to header. This is the > > # value of the reply-to header for digest lists. > > reply_to = > > > > But what exactly do I now need to send to my majordomo@my-domain.com ? > > Can anyone help me out? I guess, if I know how to do it once, I can > adapt this to the other commands. > > Thanks in advance. > Roland > > From majordomo-users-owner@greatcircle.com Mon Nov 8 18:51:35 2004 X-Original-To: majordomo-users@greatcircle.com Received: from vps.vlists.net (vps.vlists.net [208.186.168.62]) by mycroft.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E6F7232C231 for ; Mon, 8 Nov 2004 18:51:33 -0800 (PST) Received: from ListOwners.Net (vps.vlists.net [127.0.0.1]) by vps.vlists.net (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id iA92pH405461 for ; Mon, 8 Nov 2004 20:51:17 -0600 Date: Tue, 9 Nov 2004 02:51:17 -0000 To: Subject: Re: Majordomo performance issue From: "Mailing List Subscriber" X-Mailer: TWIG 2.7.7 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <41900925.3040607@sonny.org> References: <4162C9ED.1070301@bard.edu>, <4162C9ED.1070301@bard.edu> Reply-To: lists@ListOwners.Net Virus-Information: Virus Scanned By VLists.Net For Your Protection. Virus-Status: This EMail Has NOT Been Virus Scanned. Spam-Status: not spam, SpamAssassin (score=-5.899, required 5, autolearn=not spam, ALL_TRUSTED -3.30, BAYES_00 -2.60) X-Archive-Number: 200411/20 X-Sequence-Number: 4827 Daniel Liston said: > You may want to consider examining this section of the majordomo.cf file; > > # You can force Majordomo to delay any processing if the system load is too > # high by uncommenting the following lines. THIS ONLY WORKS if your "uptime" > # command (usually found in /usr/bin/uptime or /usr/bsd/uptime) > # returns a string like: > # 5:23pm up 5:51, 9 users, load average: 0.19, 0.25, 0.33 > # > $max_loadavg = 10; # Choose the maximum allowed load > # > $uptime = `/usr/bin/uptime` if -x '/usr/bin/uptime'; # Get system uptime > #$uptime = `/usr/bsd/uptime` if -x '/usr/bsd/uptime'; # or uptime is over here. > # > ($avg_1_minute, $avg_5_minutes, $avg_15_minutes) = > $uptime =~ /average:\s+(\S+),\s+(\S+),\s+(\S+)/; > # > exit 75 if ($avg_15_minutes >= $max_loadavg); # E_TEMPFAIL > # > > Tune to your specific needs of course. On my little 400Mhz single proc > intel box, I set $max_loadavg=2. > > Dan Liston Dan; My question is whether this simply delays processing, or does it throw an error back to the sender of the message. If majordomo barfs an error back at the sender I don't want to use it. But if it silently waits for the load average to go down, then I'm absolutely going to implement it. If it barfs an error back to the sender, does it just completely exit and not do anything with the original email? "exit 76" (an unknown error to me) looks pretty fatal, so "...to delay processing..." seems misleading. From majordomo-users-owner@greatcircle.com Mon Nov 8 20:11:37 2004 X-Original-To: majordomo-users@greatcircle.com Received: from mailbox.onlinepolicy.net (mailbox.onlinepolicy.net [64.62.161.194]) by mycroft.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 171C732C2E3 for ; Mon, 8 Nov 2004 20:11:33 -0800 (PST) Received: by mailbox.onlinepolicy.net (Postfix, from userid 504) id C09191886ED; Mon, 8 Nov 2004 19:38:25 -0800 (PST) Received: from [127.0.0.1] (c-24-18-255-132.client.comcast.net [24.18.255.132]) by mailbox.onlinepolicy.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3B9F51886EB; Mon, 8 Nov 2004 19:38:25 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <4190437F.5060201@queernet.org> Date: Mon, 08 Nov 2004 20:11:43 -0800 From: "Roger B.A. Klorese" User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 0.9 (Windows/20041103) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Daniel Liston Cc: "Adam H. Kerman" , majordomo-users@greatcircle.com Subject: Re: Nested and overlapping lists References: <419007E2.2060703@sonny.org> In-Reply-To: <419007E2.2060703@sonny.org> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.86.1.0 X-Enigmail-Supports: pgp-inline, pgp-mime Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Archive-Number: 200411/21 X-Sequence-Number: 4828 Daniel Liston wrote: > Rule #1, NEVER put anyone on a list they did not specifically sign up to > be on. > Using classmates.com as an example, there are many if not most that do > not mind > being contacted from this site for their standard announcements. Now > introduce > reunion.com, that uses both it's own membership, plus that of > classmates.com to > annoy, I mean announce, you with information. Users from classmates > should not > be automatically assumed to be interested in reunion, regardless of > their small > similarities. As soon as I can remember my credentials, I will remove > myself > from the classmates membership, simply because my contact information > was shared > with reunion. But, in fact, most people on most lists don't say "put me on your list called 'shmizzle-announce' -- and don't you put me on any other lists" -- they say "put me on your list so I can receive announcements about shmizzles" and whether you maintain that as separate lists for announcements about tall, medium, and short shmizzles with a consolidated all-shmizzles list or as a single list for announcements about shmizzles is really none of their concern, as long as you tell themj how to leave the list, and don't send them anything off-charter for what they agreed to. From majordomo-users-owner@greatcircle.com Mon Nov 8 20:12:16 2004 X-Original-To: majordomo-users@greatcircle.com Received: from mailbox.onlinepolicy.net (mailbox.onlinepolicy.net [64.62.161.194]) by mycroft.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 70EC332C2A8 for ; Mon, 8 Nov 2004 20:12:16 -0800 (PST) Received: by mailbox.onlinepolicy.net (Postfix, from userid 504) id C80A91886EB; Mon, 8 Nov 2004 19:39:14 -0800 (PST) Received: from [127.0.0.1] (c-24-18-255-132.client.comcast.net [24.18.255.132]) by mailbox.onlinepolicy.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2E85E1886EA; Mon, 8 Nov 2004 19:39:14 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <419043B0.1070209@queernet.org> Date: Mon, 08 Nov 2004 20:12:32 -0800 From: "Roger B.A. Klorese" User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 0.9 (Windows/20041103) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Daniel Liston Cc: Andrew Weisz , majordomo-users@greatcircle.com Subject: Re: MajorDomo Personalized E-mails References: <53245.216.94.245.230.1095806168.squirrel@perfectmail.aei.on.ca> <41900AAC.9010405@sonny.org> In-Reply-To: <41900AAC.9010405@sonny.org> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.86.1.0 X-Enigmail-Supports: pgp-inline, pgp-mime Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Archive-Number: 200411/22 X-Sequence-Number: 4829 Daniel Liston wrote: > Catching up with the really old stuff now. I have been away toooo long. > > Simple answer "no". > Complex answer "yes", but you have to rewrite many of the routines in > majordomo. This question actually gets asked/answered several times a > year. I am surprised your archive search did not turn something up. Are you assuming that the only thing called "Majordomo" is Majordomo 1.94.x? From majordomo-users-owner@greatcircle.com Mon Nov 8 20:15:33 2004 X-Original-To: majordomo-users@greatcircle.com Received: from cyber-media.co.uk (cms2.gotadsl.co.uk [81.6.247.204]) by mycroft.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1BD5E32C2E3 for ; Mon, 8 Nov 2004 20:15:31 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail pickup service by cyber-media.co.uk with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Tue, 9 Nov 2004 04:15:29 +0000 thread-index: AcTGEr8PtZGPvaRCRS2Tz75SBzc/YA== X-Original-To: majordomo-users@greatcircle.com Date: Tue, 9 Nov 2004 04:15:29 -0000 From: "Roger B.A. Klorese" Message-ID: <000e01c4c612$bf0f79f0$0100000a@cybermedia.local> User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 0.9 (Windows/20041103) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Cc: "Andrew Weisz" , X-Mailer: Microsoft CDO for Exchange 2000 Subject: Re: MajorDomo Personalized E-mails References: <53245.216.94.245.230.1095806168.squirrel@perfectmail.aei.on.ca> <41900AAC.9010405@sonny.org> In-Reply-To: <41900AAC.9010405@sonny.org> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.86.1.0 X-Enigmail-Supports: pgp-inline, pgp-mime Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Class: urn:content-classes:message Importance: normal Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.3790.181 Precedence: bulk Status: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 09 Nov 2004 04:15:29.0241 (UTC) FILETIME=[BF2E4C90:01C4C612] X-Archive-Number: 200411/23 X-Sequence-Number: 4830 Daniel Liston wrote: > Catching up with the really old stuff now. I have been away toooo long. > > Simple answer "no". > Complex answer "yes", but you have to rewrite many of the routines in > majordomo. This question actually gets asked/answered several times a > year. I am surprised your archive search did not turn something up. Are you assuming that the only thing called "Majordomo" is Majordomo 1.94.x? From majordomo-users-owner@greatcircle.com Mon Nov 8 21:12:50 2004 X-Original-To: majordomo-users@greatcircle.com Received: from chinet.chinet.com (chinet.com [64.232.6.20]) by mycroft.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7EA7232C165 for ; Mon, 8 Nov 2004 21:12:49 -0800 (PST) Received: from chinet.chinet.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by chinet.chinet.com (8.12.7/8.12.7/SuSE Linux 0.6) with ESMTP id iA95CgbN009367 for ; Mon, 8 Nov 2004 23:12:43 -0600 Received: from localhost (ahk@localhost) by chinet.chinet.com (8.12.7/8.12.7/Submit) with ESMTP id iA95CgU7009363 for ; Mon, 8 Nov 2004 23:12:42 -0600 X-Authentication-Warning: chinet.chinet.com: ahk owned process doing -bs Date: Mon, 8 Nov 2004 23:12:42 -0600 (CST) From: "Adam H. Kerman" To: majordomo-users@greatcircle.com Subject: Re: Nested and overlapping lists In-Reply-To: <419007E2.2060703@sonny.org> Message-ID: References: <419007E2.2060703@sonny.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Archive-Number: 200411/24 X-Sequence-Number: 4831 Please don't Cc me. At 5:57pm -0600, 11/08/04, Daniel Liston wrote: >Adam H. Kerman wrote: >>How do you all handle nested lists with Majordomo? >Rule #1, NEVER put anyone on a list they did not specifically sign up to be >on. Using classmates.com as an example, there are many if not most that do not >mind being contacted from this site for their standard announcements. Now >introduce reunion.com, that uses both it's own membership, plus that of >classmates.com to annoy, I mean announce, you with information. Users from >classmates should not be automatically assumed to be interested in reunion, >regardless of their small similarities. As soon as I can remember my >credentials, I will remove myself from the classmates membership, simply >because my contact information was shared with reunion. You don't want this >to happen on your lists, do you? None of this answers my technical question. None of your assumptions is the least bit relevant to the situation. The lists in question are low volume lists for the working group of a community organization. The related lists are for people in the sub-working groups that work on specific issues and are used as needed. There's overlap due to people that are members of more than one subgroup. Plus someone in one of the sub-working groups but not in the main group. These aren't announce-only lists; users post to the correct list depending on which set of people are working on which issue. From majordomo-users-owner@greatcircle.com Mon Nov 8 23:53:44 2004 X-Original-To: majordomo-users@greatcircle.com Received: from siaar2aa.compuserve.com (siaar2aa.compuserve.com [149.174.40.137]) by mycroft.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 96A4432C34D for ; Mon, 8 Nov 2004 23:53:43 -0800 (PST) Received: (from mailgate@localhost) by siaar2aa.compuserve.com (8.12.11/8.12.7/SUN-REL-2.14) id iA97rhLp021651 for majordomo-users@greatcircle.com; Tue, 9 Nov 2004 02:53:43 -0500 (EST) Received: from MyNewComputer (uk4-tgn-lmh-vty15.as.wcom.net [212.211.103.15]) by siaar2aa.compuserve.com (8.12.11/8.12.7/SUN-REL-2.14) with SMTP id iA97rHng021500 for ; Tue, 9 Nov 2004 02:53:39 -0500 (EST) Reply-To: From: "Clare Redstone" To: Subject: Date: Tue, 9 Nov 2004 07:57:36 -0000 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_00D9_01C4C631.C6DC4CC0" X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1409 X-Virus-Scanned: clamd / ClamAV version 0.70, clamav-milter version 0.70j X-Archive-Number: 200411/25 X-Sequence-Number: 4832 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_00D9_01C4C631.C6DC4CC0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Help overview Help commands ------=_NextPart_000_00D9_01C4C631.C6DC4CC0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

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------=_NextPart_000_00D9_01C4C631.C6DC4CC0-- From majordomo-users-owner@greatcircle.com Thu Nov 11 22:51:57 2004 X-Original-To: majordomo-users@greatcircle.com Received: from david.siemens.com.sg (david.siemens.com.sg [194.138.240.11]) by mycroft.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 50CD532C198 for ; Thu, 11 Nov 2004 22:51:56 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail.siemens.com.sg (mail.siemens.com.sg [194.138.237.71]) by david.siemens.com.sg (8.11.7/8.11.7) with ESMTP id iAC6ptX19238 for ; Fri, 12 Nov 2004 14:51:55 +0800 (SGT) Received: from SGPM217A.ww888.siemens.net ([140.231.110.197]) by mail.siemens.com.sg (8.11.7/8.11.7) with ESMTP id iAC6pq306641 for ; Fri, 12 Nov 2004 14:51:53 +0800 (SGT) Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5.7226.0 Subject: customization of Majordomo's email replies Date: Fri, 12 Nov 2004 14:51:43 +0800 Message-ID: <6F35692814503040B2979A097B8A2EE3181FBB@SGPM217A.ww888.siemens.net> X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: customization of Majordomo's email replies Thread-Index: AcTIhBHip8qS0JJETgGChAjey3Vmzg== From: "Hendrianto Muljawan" To: Cc: "Ng Shao-Chuan" , "Bahl Sameer" X-Archive-Number: 200411/26 X-Sequence-Number: 4833 Dear all, I have installed Majordomo 1.94.5 in a Sun Fire V120 with Solaris 8. I have gone through the on-line Majordomo FAQ, however I couldn't find any documentation on how to customize the emails sent out by Majordomo during the new user subscription process. The standard email sent by the Majordomo for a subscribing user isn't clear enough, hence I would like to modify it. Is there a configuration file for doing that ? If not how shall I do that ? Is this mail template embedded into the Majordomo.pl script?=20 thanks, Muljawan From majordomo-users-owner@greatcircle.com Fri Nov 12 01:00:25 2004 X-Original-To: majordomo-users@greatcircle.com Received: from cloud.ccsf.cc.ca.us (cloud.ccsf.cc.ca.us [147.144.1.212]) by mycroft.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 808A932C2EC for ; Fri, 12 Nov 2004 01:00:20 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (jjah@localhost) by cloud.ccsf.cc.ca.us (8.11.6/8.11.2) with ESMTP id iAC90aG27724; Fri, 12 Nov 2004 01:00:37 -0800 (PST) Date: Fri, 12 Nov 2004 01:00:36 -0800 (PST) From: "Joe R. Jah" To: Hendrianto Muljawan Cc: majordomo-users@greatcircle.com, Ng Shao-Chuan , Bahl Sameer Subject: Re: customization of Majordomo's email replies In-Reply-To: <6F35692814503040B2979A097B8A2EE3181FBB@SGPM217A.ww888.siemens.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Archive-Number: 200411/27 X-Sequence-Number: 4834 On Fri, 12 Nov 2004, Hendrianto Muljawan wrote: > Date: Fri, 12 Nov 2004 14:51:43 +0800 > From: Hendrianto Muljawan > To: majordomo-users@greatcircle.com > Cc: Ng Shao-Chuan , Bahl Sameer > Subject: customization of Majordomo's email replies > > Dear all, > > I have installed Majordomo 1.94.5 in a Sun Fire V120 with Solaris 8. > > I have gone through the on-line Majordomo FAQ, however I couldn't find > any documentation on how to customize the emails sent out by Majordomo > during the new user subscription process. > > The standard email sent by the Majordomo for a subscribing user isn't > clear enough, hence I would like to modify it. > > Is there a configuration file for doing that ? ListName.intro > If not how shall I do that ? Is this mail template embedded into the > Majordomo.pl script? ftp://ftp.ccsf.org/majordomo-patches/1.94.5/majordomo.7 > thanks, > Muljawan Regards, Joe -- _/ _/_/_/ _/ ____________ __o _/ _/ _/ _/ ______________ _-\<,_ _/ _/ _/_/_/ _/ _/ ......(_)/ (_) _/_/ oe _/ _/. _/_/ ah jjah@cloud.ccsf.cc.ca.us From majordomo-users-owner@greatcircle.com Fri Nov 12 01:29:22 2004 X-Original-To: majordomo-users@greatcircle.com Received: from siaar1aa.compuserve.com (siaar1aa.compuserve.com [149.174.40.9]) by mycroft.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9623632C2B9 for ; Fri, 12 Nov 2004 01:26:10 -0800 (PST) Received: (from mailgate@localhost) by siaar1aa.compuserve.com (8.12.11/8.12.7/SUN-REL-2.14) id iAC9RDK3025988 for majordomo-users@greatcircle.com; Fri, 12 Nov 2004 04:27:13 -0500 (EST) Received: from MyNewComputer (uk4-tgn-lmm-vty39.as.wcom.net [212.211.108.39]) by siaar1aa.compuserve.com (8.12.11/8.12.7/SUN-REL-2.14) with SMTP id iAC9Q7oO025621 for ; Fri, 12 Nov 2004 04:27:09 -0500 (EST) Reply-To: From: "Clare Redstone" To: "Majordomo users" Subject: Problem with ssubscribe Date: Fri, 12 Nov 2004 09:31:09 -0000 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1409 X-Virus-Scanned: clamd / ClamAV version 0.70, clamav-milter version 0.70j X-Archive-Number: 200411/28 X-Sequence-Number: 4835 I'm having a problem with the settings for people to ssubscribe themselves to my mailing list. My config file reads: ssubscribe_policy = open+confirm I thought that when someone sends a subscription request from their own e-mail address, they would get an e-mail from Majordomo asking them to reply with the authentication code. And once they had sent that mail, they would be ssubscribed and receive the Welcome e-mail. What seems to be happening, is that when they send the initial request, they get two mails (one the confirmation request and one a "Majordomo results" saying they'll be sent the confirmation request!) But once they send the confirmation, they get a third mail saying waiting for me to approve them and I get the approve request which I have to send back to ssubscribe them. I thought the point of "open" was that it doesn't need list manager approval. And "confirm" is to stop people maliciously signing up other people. What am I getting wrong? (Just in case - the trial address I was subscribing is hotmail - does that sometimes glitch?) Thank you for your help. Clare From majordomo-users-owner@greatcircle.com Fri Nov 12 03:12:22 2004 X-Original-To: majordomo-users@greatcircle.com Received: from h4873.serverkompetenz.net (fa1con.de [81.169.156.200]) by mycroft.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6EC1032C3FD for ; Fri, 12 Nov 2004 03:02:21 -0800 (PST) Received: by h4873.serverkompetenz.net (Postfix, from userid 30) id 4EA1418003; Fri, 12 Nov 2004 12:05:39 +0100 (CET) To: majordomo-users@greatcircle.com Subject: Problem with Majorcool (error 71) From: news@fa1con.de X-Priority: 3 Importance: Normal X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced by Confixx WebMail X-Mailer: Confixx WebMail (like SquirrelMail) Cc: Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Message-Id: <20041112110539.4EA1418003@h4873.serverkompetenz.net> Date: Fri, 12 Nov 2004 12:05:39 +0100 (CET) X-Archive-Number: 200411/29 X-Sequence-Number: 4836 Hi, I have a problem with Majorcool, whitch I can not solve by myself. I've installed Majordomo and Majorcool without any problems on my server and tried to access Majorcool. But Majorcool doesn't work and reports only the error message "error 71". This is very strange, because nowhere is documentated what the "error 71" means. Therefore I looked at various logfiles on my system, but in no logfile is an entry with an failure message from Majordomo and Majorcool. I don't know how I could fix the error, because wrapper config-test also reports an correctly installed majordomo. Could anybody explain, what the error 71 means? Thank you! Johannes From majordomo-users-owner@greatcircle.com Fri Nov 12 19:38:29 2004 X-Original-To: majordomo-users@greatcircle.com Received: from S1.cableone.net (smtp1.cableone.net [24.116.0.227]) by mycroft.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 859F932C1DD for ; Fri, 12 Nov 2004 19:38:28 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail.sonny.com (unverified [24.116.58.25]) by S1.cableone.net (CableOne SMTP Service S1) with ESMTP id 1323577 for multiple; Fri, 12 Nov 2004 20:41:54 -0700 Received: from [192.168.1.105] (conf-room.verizon.net [199.180.4.101]) (authenticated bits=0) by mail.sonny.com (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id iAD3abpP010824 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5 bits=128 verify=NO); Fri, 12 Nov 2004 21:36:39 -0600 Message-ID: <4195808C.7020001@sonny.org> Date: Fri, 12 Nov 2004 21:33:32 -0600 From: Daniel Liston User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.7.3) Gecko/20041020 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: lists@ListOwners.Net Cc: majordomo-users@greatcircle.com Subject: Re: Majordomo performance issue References: <4162C9ED.1070301@bard.edu>, <4162C9ED.1070301@bard.edu> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Abuse-Info: Send abuse complaints to abuse@cableone.net X-Archive-Number: 200411/30 X-Sequence-Number: 4837 Mailing List Subscriber wrote: > Daniel Liston said: > > >>You may want to consider examining this section of the majordomo.cf file; >> >># You can force Majordomo to delay any processing if the system load is too >># high by uncommenting the following lines. THIS ONLY WORKS if > > your "uptime" > >># command (usually found in /usr/bin/uptime or /usr/bsd/uptime) >># returns a string like: >># 5:23pm up 5:51, 9 users, load average: 0.19, 0.25, 0.33 >># >>$max_loadavg = 10; # Choose the maximum allowed load >># >>$uptime = `/usr/bin/uptime` if -x '/usr/bin/uptime'; # Get system uptime >>#$uptime = `/usr/bsd/uptime` if -x '/usr/bsd/uptime'; # or uptime is > > over here. > >># >>($avg_1_minute, $avg_5_minutes, $avg_15_minutes) = >> $uptime =~ /average:\s+(\S+),\s+(\S+),\s+(\S+)/; >># >>exit 75 if ($avg_15_minutes >= $max_loadavg); # E_TEMPFAIL >># >> >>Tune to your specific needs of course. On my little 400Mhz single proc >>intel box, I set $max_loadavg=2. >> >>Dan Liston > > > Dan; > > My question is whether this simply delays processing, or does it throw an > error back to the sender of the message. If majordomo barfs an error back at > the sender I don't want to use it. But if it silently waits for the load > average to go down, then I'm absolutely going to implement it. > > If it barfs an error back to the sender, does it just completely exit and not > do anything with the original email? "exit 76" (an unknown error to me) > looks pretty fatal, so "...to delay processing..." seems misleading. > You just need to look a little closer at the config. exit "75" and the comment at the end of the line; #E_TEMPFAIL. Basically, this just means the messages will be queued for later processing. Of course, if you have the means to run the load up on your test server, you could always just "try" it. ;) Dan From majordomo-users-owner@greatcircle.com Fri Nov 12 19:43:48 2004 X-Original-To: majordomo-users@greatcircle.com Received: from S4.cableone.net (smtp4.cableone.net [24.116.0.230]) by mycroft.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5B80732C18F for ; Fri, 12 Nov 2004 19:43:47 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail.sonny.com (unverified [24.116.58.25]) by S4.cableone.net (CableOne SMTP Service S4) with ESMTP id 1321304 for ; Fri, 12 Nov 2004 20:45:15 -0700 Received: from [192.168.1.105] (conf-room.verizon.net [199.180.4.101]) (authenticated bits=0) by mail.sonny.com (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id iAD3fOpP010909 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5 bits=128 verify=NO); Fri, 12 Nov 2004 21:41:26 -0600 Message-ID: <419581AA.80109@sonny.org> Date: Fri, 12 Nov 2004 21:38:18 -0600 From: Daniel Liston User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.7.3) Gecko/20041020 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: majordomo-users@greatcircle.com Subject: Re: Nested and overlapping lists References: <419007E2.2060703@sonny.org> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Abuse-Info: Send abuse complaints to abuse@cableone.net X-Archive-Number: 200411/31 X-Sequence-Number: 4838 So sorry to have bothered you. I won't do that again. BTW, I replied TO: you but CC:d the list last time. Adam H. Kerman wrote: > Please don't Cc me. > > At 5:57pm -0600, 11/08/04, Daniel Liston wrote: > >>Adam H. Kerman wrote: > > >>>How do you all handle nested lists with Majordomo? From majordomo-users-owner@greatcircle.com Mon Nov 15 06:07:44 2004 X-Original-To: Majordomo-Users@GreatCircle.COM Received: from web52204.mail.yahoo.com (web52204.mail.yahoo.com [206.190.39.86]) by mycroft.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with SMTP id 6EC3732C16A for ; Mon, 15 Nov 2004 06:07:43 -0800 (PST) Received: (qmail 13832 invoked by uid 60001); 15 Nov 2004 14:07:42 -0000 Comment: DomainKeys? See http://antispam.yahoo.com/domainkeys DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; b=O5vCJYORHIIX+r1onN0wHJNzkzOA7TEnkzKr7U7PA8Z9IjFULAYTsXgChcfSCkSU8CFNxx0oSof/fQ3VqNJvOCyJ1zeQzTmuxqI3XLWf2G+Ktq8DBvep45WIyxpUdn6JWm3/JMMtiCnpUJzJr7hTPN7BL0qOMbf5jHI+DSL9LRY= ; Message-ID: <20041115140742.13830.qmail@web52204.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [213.84.194.12] by web52204.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Mon, 15 Nov 2004 06:07:41 PST Date: Mon, 15 Nov 2004 06:07:41 -0800 (PST) From: Peter Schepper Subject: Bad mailing: Users get 3 - 8 mails!! To: Majordomo-Users@GreatCircle.COM MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Archive-Number: 200411/32 X-Sequence-Number: 4839 Hi, I use majordomo for my newsletter. I have used this quite some time now, never had any problems, until a few days ago. I sent another newsletter through the mailinglist, but somehow, somewhere, something went wrong. Many subscribers received up to 8 e-mails! Do you have any idea where it went wrong? With kind regards, Peter __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Check out the new Yahoo! Front Page. www.yahoo.com From majordomo-users-owner@greatcircle.com Mon Nov 15 14:26:21 2004 X-Original-To: majordomo-users@greatcircle.com Received: from siaar2aa.compuserve.com (siaar2aa.compuserve.com [149.174.40.137]) by mycroft.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0FACC32C2BE for ; Mon, 15 Nov 2004 14:26:20 -0800 (PST) Received: (from mailgate@localhost) by siaar2aa.compuserve.com (8.12.11/8.12.7/SUN-REL-2.14) id iAFMQJS0022037 for majordomo-users@greatcircle.com; Mon, 15 Nov 2004 17:26:19 -0500 (EST) Received: from MyNewComputer (uk4-tgn-lmk-vty8.as.wcom.net [212.211.106.8]) by siaar2aa.compuserve.com (8.12.11/8.12.7/SUN-REL-2.14) with SMTP id iAFMPioM021838 for ; Mon, 15 Nov 2004 17:26:15 -0500 (EST) Reply-To: From: "Clare Redstone" To: "Majordomo users" Subject: Member with two e-mail addresses Date: Mon, 15 Nov 2004 22:30:32 -0000 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1409 X-Virus-Scanned: clamd / ClamAV version 0.70, clamav-milter version 0.70j X-Archive-Number: 200411/33 X-Sequence-Number: 4840 A member of my mailing list has subscribed with her work e-mail address which she can also access from home. However, when she posts a message from home, an extra bit is added to her e-mail address. From work, the address is her.name@somewhere.something.uk From home, it is her.name@ams1.somewhere.something.uk Messages from home are bounced. My config file includes restrict_post = Is it possible to change something so she can post from home? (I suppose she could subscribe with both addresses but then I assume she would get two of every message.) Thank you Clare From majordomo-users-owner@greatcircle.com Mon Nov 22 02:46:42 2004 X-Original-To: majordomo-users@greatcircle.com Received: from smtp1.pacifier.net (smtp1.pacifier.net [64.255.237.171]) by mycroft.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5E6EF32C431 for ; Mon, 22 Nov 2004 02:45:53 -0800 (PST) Received: from server.sci1.com (unknown [198.145.28.18]) by smtp1.pacifier.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0287D7052E for ; Mon, 22 Nov 2004 02:50:43 -0800 (PST) Received: from Dell.sci1.com (dell.sci1.com [192.1.1.9]) by server.sci1.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id DAA01785 for ; Mon, 22 Nov 2004 03:58:07 -0800 Message-Id: <5.1.0.14.2.20041122024839.06241f28@127.0.0.1> X-Sender: howard@mail.sci1.com@127.0.0.1 X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Mon, 22 Nov 2004 02:50:37 -0800 To: majordomo-users@greatcircle.com From: Howard Spindel Subject: subject prefix Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed X-Archive-Number: 200411/34 X-Sequence-Number: 4841 Hi, My lists are setup so that [listname] is prepended to the subject line when majordomo resends email to subscribers. This works fine, except when a subscriber submits a message with a totally blank subject line. Then the subject stays blank when majordomo resends - [listname] does not appear on the subject line. Bug? Thank you, Howard From majordomo-users-owner@greatcircle.com Mon Nov 22 04:41:50 2004 X-Original-To: majordomo-users@greatcircle.com Received: from smtp1.pacifier.net (smtp1.pacifier.net [64.255.237.171]) by mycroft.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 18A4732C216 for ; Mon, 22 Nov 2004 04:41:38 -0800 (PST) Received: from server.sci1.com (unknown [198.145.28.18]) by smtp1.pacifier.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E7CED70594 for ; Mon, 22 Nov 2004 04:38:14 -0800 (PST) Received: from Dell.sci1.com (dell.sci1.com [192.1.1.9]) by server.sci1.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id FAA02761 for ; Mon, 22 Nov 2004 05:45:39 -0800 Message-Id: <5.1.0.14.2.20041122043657.062256d0@127.0.0.1> X-Sender: howard@mail.sci1.com@127.0.0.1 X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Mon, 22 Nov 2004 04:38:09 -0800 To: majordomo-users@greatcircle.com From: howard@sci1.com Subject: using a list as a list owner Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed X-Archive-Number: 200411/35 X-Sequence-Number: 4842 Pardon me if this is a duplicate - I posted it a couple hours ago but haven't seen it come back, so I fear it may have gotten lost along the way... ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Hi, I am trying to setup a list as a list owner, as suggested in some of the Majordomo docs. The purpose of this is to give multiple people control over approving of subscriptions. When some kind of admin request is posted to the secondary list, the secondary list always bounces it with a message like: BOUNCE listname@mydomain.com: Admin request: /^subject:\s*unsubscribe\b/i Admin request of type /\buns\w*b/i at line 3 or BOUNCE listname@mydomain.com: Admin request of type /\bsubscribe\b/i at line 5 -------------- The bounces occur because *majordomo* automatically inserts the offending text into either the subject line or the message body when processing the request. What's the magic way to get the secondary list to allow majordomo's normal messages to get through to it? I can't find anything in the config file that says something like "ignore admin requests". Thank you, Howard From majordomo-users-owner@greatcircle.com Mon Nov 22 05:52:09 2004 X-Original-To: majordomo-users@greatcircle.com Received: from mailbox.onlinepolicy.net (mailbox.onlinepolicy.net [64.62.161.194]) by mycroft.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0ED2432C203 for ; Mon, 22 Nov 2004 05:52:08 -0800 (PST) Received: by mailbox.onlinepolicy.net (Postfix, from userid 504) id A45F51889CD; Mon, 22 Nov 2004 06:49:12 -0800 (PST) Received: from [127.0.0.1] (c-24-18-255-132.client.comcast.net [24.18.255.132]) by mailbox.onlinepolicy.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 405361889C9; Mon, 22 Nov 2004 06:49:11 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <41A1EF00.4010409@queernet.org> Date: Mon, 22 Nov 2004 05:52:00 -0800 From: "Roger B.A. Klorese" User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 0.9 (Windows/20041103) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: howard@sci1.com Cc: majordomo-users@greatcircle.com Subject: Re: using a list as a list owner References: <5.1.0.14.2.20041122043657.062256d0@127.0.0.1> In-Reply-To: <5.1.0.14.2.20041122043657.062256d0@127.0.0.1> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.86.1.0 X-Enigmail-Supports: pgp-inline, pgp-mime Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Archive-Number: 200411/36 X-Sequence-Number: 4843 howard@sci1.com wrote: > What's the magic way to get the secondary list to allow majordomo's > normal messages to get through to it? I can't find anything in the > config file that says something like "ignore admin requests". It's the "administrivia" setting. From majordomo-users-owner@greatcircle.com Mon Nov 22 10:09:33 2004 X-Original-To: majordomo-users@greatcircle.com Received: from cloud.ccsf.cc.ca.us (cloud.ccsf.cc.ca.us [147.144.1.212]) by mycroft.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id DFECF32C462 for ; Mon, 22 Nov 2004 10:09:31 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (jjah@localhost) by cloud.ccsf.cc.ca.us (8.11.6/8.11.2) with ESMTP id iAMI9Fo11779; Mon, 22 Nov 2004 10:09:15 -0800 (PST) Date: Mon, 22 Nov 2004 10:09:15 -0800 (PST) From: "Joe R. Jah" To: Howard Spindel Cc: majordomo-users@greatcircle.com Subject: Re: subject prefix In-Reply-To: <5.1.0.14.2.20041122024839.06241f28@127.0.0.1> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Archive-Number: 200411/37 X-Sequence-Number: 4844 On Mon, 22 Nov 2004, Howard Spindel wrote: > Date: Mon, 22 Nov 2004 02:50:37 -0800 > From: Howard Spindel > To: majordomo-users@greatcircle.com > Subject: subject prefix > > Hi, > > My lists are setup so that [listname] is prepended to the subject line when > majordomo resends email to subscribers. > > This works fine, except when a subscriber submits a message with a totally > blank subject line. Then the subject stays blank when majordomo resends - > [listname] does not appear on the subject line. > > Bug? > > Thank you, > Howard Patch: ftp://ftp.ccsf.edu/majordomo-patches/1.94.5/resend.1 Regards, Joe -- _/ _/_/_/ _/ ____________ __o _/ _/ _/ _/ ______________ _-\<,_ _/ _/ _/_/_/ _/ _/ ......(_)/ (_) _/_/ oe _/ _/. _/_/ ah jjah@cloud.ccsf.cc.ca.us From majordomo-users-owner@greatcircle.com Mon Nov 22 13:02:33 2004 X-Original-To: majordomo-users@greatcircle.com Received: from smtp1.pacifier.net (smtp1.pacifier.net [64.255.237.171]) by mycroft.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4CA6C32C311 for ; Mon, 22 Nov 2004 13:02:32 -0800 (PST) Received: from server.sci1.com (unknown [198.145.28.18]) by smtp1.pacifier.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 42BE9708EE for ; Mon, 22 Nov 2004 13:01:31 -0800 (PST) Received: from Dell.sci1.com (dell.sci1.com [192.1.1.9]) by server.sci1.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA06007 for ; Mon, 22 Nov 2004 14:08:56 -0800 Message-Id: <5.1.0.14.2.20041122124835.0698f008@127.0.0.1> X-Sender: howard@mail.sci1.com@127.0.0.1 X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Mon, 22 Nov 2004 13:01:26 -0800 To: majordomo-users@greatcircle.com From: Howard Spindel Subject: list as list owner, part 2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed X-Archive-Number: 200411/38 X-Sequence-Number: 4845 Yesterday I posted a question about using a list to own a list, where the owning list was bouncing posts from the owned list because of embedded commands. Roger Klorese provided the correct answer to use the "administrivia" switch, which works great for me. A different problem has arisen. I would like the owning list to be closed to posting, except from the people on the list. So I set restrict_post to the list. I quickly discovered that I needed to add "majordomo@mydomain.com" to the allowed posters so that the admin posts from majordomo would get through. That's fine. What's left is that now when I get a bounce message (e.g. from a member of the owned list whose mailbox is full), the bounce message is sent to owner-ownedlist, which of course is the owning list. The owning lists reject the posting of the bounced message because it comes originally from somebody not on the restrict_post list - usually MAILER-DAEMON@somewhere.com. Naturally I can't anticipate all of the places that somewhere.com might be and add them to the restrict_post list. Is there another trick to let the bounce messages be forwarded to the administrative list without opening the administrative list to all posters? Thank you for the great answers I received to my earlier questions, and thank you for any help with this one. Howard Spindel From majordomo-users-owner@greatcircle.com Mon Nov 22 13:31:34 2004 X-Original-To: majordomo-users@greatcircle.com Received: from smtp4.pacifier.net (smtp4.pacifier.net [64.255.237.174]) by mycroft.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 177A232C373 for ; Mon, 22 Nov 2004 13:31:32 -0800 (PST) Received: from server.sci1.com (unknown [198.145.28.18]) by smtp4.pacifier.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1C3706AFEB for ; Mon, 22 Nov 2004 13:31:32 -0800 (PST) Received: from Dell.sci1.com (dell.sci1.com [192.1.1.9]) by server.sci1.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA06389 for ; Mon, 22 Nov 2004 14:38:57 -0800 Message-Id: <5.1.0.14.2.20041122132825.07513b60@127.0.0.1> X-Sender: howard@mail.sci1.com@127.0.0.1 X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Mon, 22 Nov 2004 13:30:54 -0800 To: majordomo-users@greatcircle.com From: Howard Spindel Subject: Re: list as list owner, part 3 In-Reply-To: <5.1.0.14.2.20041122124835.0698f008@127.0.0.1> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed X-Archive-Number: 200411/39 X-Sequence-Number: 4846 And to extend the discussion a little further, I also get a bounce from the administrative list that looks like this: BOUNCE mylist@mydomain.com: global taboo header: /^subject:\s*Returned mail\b/i So it would be nice if the administrative list could be configured to ignore the global taboo header list, but I don't see how to do that either. Thanks again, Howard At 01:01 PM 11/22/2004 -0800, I wrote: >Yesterday I posted a question about using a list to own a list, where the >owning list was bouncing posts from the owned list because of embedded >commands. Roger Klorese provided the correct answer to use the >"administrivia" switch, which works great for me. > >A different problem has arisen. I would like the owning list to be closed >to posting, except from the people on the list. So I set restrict_post to >the list. I quickly discovered that I needed to add >"majordomo@mydomain.com" to the allowed posters so that the admin posts >from majordomo would get through. That's fine. > >What's left is that now when I get a bounce message (e.g. from a member of >the owned list whose mailbox is full), the bounce message is sent to >owner-ownedlist, which of course is the owning list. The owning lists >reject the posting of the bounced message because it comes originally from >somebody not on the restrict_post list - usually >MAILER-DAEMON@somewhere.com. Naturally I can't anticipate all of the >places that somewhere.com might be and add them to the restrict_post list. > >Is there another trick to let the bounce messages be forwarded to the >administrative list without opening the administrative list to all posters? > >Thank you for the great answers I received to my earlier questions, and >thank you for any help with this one. > >Howard Spindel > > > From majordomo-users-owner@greatcircle.com Mon Nov 22 20:23:25 2004 X-Original-To: majordomo-users@greatcircle.com Received: from S3.cableone.net (smtp3.cableone.net [24.116.0.229]) by mycroft.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id CF0BD32C38F for ; Mon, 22 Nov 2004 20:23:24 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail.sonny.com (unverified [24.116.58.25]) by S3.cableone.net (CableOne SMTP Service S3) with ESMTP id 2164637 for ; Mon, 22 Nov 2004 21:29:50 -0700 Received: from [192.168.1.60] (dad.liston.nu [192.168.1.60]) (authenticated bits=0) by mail.sonny.com (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id iAN4NNT3010072 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5 bits=128 verify=NO) for ; Mon, 22 Nov 2004 22:23:26 -0600 Message-ID: <41A2BB41.2060505@sonny.org> Date: Mon, 22 Nov 2004 22:23:29 -0600 From: Daniel Liston User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.2) Gecko/20040804 Netscape/7.2 (ax) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Majordomo users Subject: Re: Member with two e-mail addresses References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Abuse-Info: Send abuse complaints to abuse@cableone.net X-Archive-Number: 200411/40 X-Sequence-Number: 4847 Look at the mungedomain setting in your list's config file. If this is set to yes, @ams1.somewhere.something will equal @somewhere.something. Dan Liston Clare Redstone wrote: > A member of my mailing list has subscribed with her work e-mail address > which she can also access from home. However, when she posts a message from > home, an extra bit is added to her e-mail address. From work, the address is > her.name@somewhere.something.uk >>From home, it is her.name@ams1.somewhere.something.uk > Messages from home are > bounced. > > My config file includes restrict_post = > > Is it possible to change something so she can post from home? (I suppose she > could subscribe with both addresses but then I assume she would get two of > every message.) > > Thank you > > Clare > From majordomo-users-owner@greatcircle.com Mon Nov 22 23:19:51 2004 X-Original-To: majordomo-users@greatcircle.com Received: from web12703.mail.yahoo.com (web12703.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.173.240]) by mycroft.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with SMTP id 367D732C18F for ; Mon, 22 Nov 2004 23:19:50 -0800 (PST) Received: (qmail 34523 invoked by uid 60001); 23 Nov 2004 07:19:47 -0000 Comment: DomainKeys? See http://antispam.yahoo.com/domainkeys DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; b=mZsm9GArQ5aqHhF2S98qt74iK6ZCTne00vnjR4ruk86oOFdgwk4x9WvK8rXgYSmOT92b4a2nz5wdYeQzWLOW5tvlcKNo+Bqb5nzUELOcwn6LEfYNAnYn+gYRIfy2F2MTSt3nmSj8HzxNUE0iu1QwE9TGpI6mbFDc7AzJ9/+pmn0= ; Message-ID: <20041123071946.34521.qmail@web12703.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [24.126.242.97] by web12703.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Mon, 22 Nov 2004 23:19:46 PST Date: Mon, 22 Nov 2004 23:19:46 -0800 (PST) From: Michael Subject: I'm stumped - can't figure out this majordomo + mailer error To: majordomo-users@greatcircle.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Archive-Number: 200411/41 X-Sequence-Number: 4848 I haven't seen any response to this. Any ideas? Thanks! > I'm stumped. My many searches on google have yet to reveal to me the > seemingly elusive answer to this problem. Anyone come across this > before? > Any help would be much appreciated! I'm sure I'm overlooking something > dumb... Thanks! > > Using: > ------ > > Solaris 9 (sparc) > Majordomo Version 1.94.5 > Sendmail 8.12.10+Sun/8.12.2 > perl, v5.6.1 > > Note: running the Majordomo wrapper config-test confirms the proper > setup > and permissions. > > Aliases: > -------- > > majordomo: "|/usr/local/majordomo/wrapper majordomo" > owner-majordomo: jsmith@fakeemail.com > majordomo-owner: jsmith@fakeemail.com > > test: |/usr/local/majordomo/wrapper resend -l test test-list > test-list: :include:/usr/local/majordomo/lists/test > owner-test: jsmith@fakeemail.com > test-request: "|/usr/local/majordomo/wrapper request-answer test" > test-approval: jsmith@fakeemail.com > > Problem: > -------- > > When I email the test alias I get the following bounced message: > > ----- The following addresses had permanent fatal errors ----- > |/usr/local/majordomo/wrapper resend -l test test-list > (reason: 1) > (expanded from: ) > > ----- Transcript of session follows ----- > Message delivered to mailing list > sh: /usr/local/majordomo/wrapper.resend.-l.test.test-list: not found > 554 5.3.0 unknown mailer error 1 > > > > Final-Recipient: RFC822; test@hostname.com > X-Actual-Recipient: X-Unix; > |/usr/local/majordomo/wrapper.resend.-l.test.test-list > Action: failed > Status: 5.0.0 > Diagnostic-Code: X-Unix; 1 > Last-Attempt-Date: Tue, 16 Nov 2004 02:10:19 -0800 (PST) > > In sendmail logs I see: > > ov 15 00:45:07 dsj-u031 sendmail[11026]: [ID 801593 mail.info] > iAF8j65U011026: to=|/usr/local/majordomo/wrapper resend -l test > test-list, > ctladdr= (1/0), delay=00:00:01, xdelay=00:00:00, > mailer=prog, pri=31100, dsn=5.3.0, stat=unknown mailer error 1 > Nov 15 00:45:07 dsw-u031 sendmail[11026]: [ID 801593 mail.info] > iAF8j65U011026: iAF8j65V011026: > DSN: unknown mailer error 1 __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Meet the all-new My Yahoo! - Try it today! http://my.yahoo.com From majordomo-users-owner@greatcircle.com Tue Nov 23 08:25:39 2004 X-Original-To: majordomo-users@greatcircle.com Received: from mailbox.onlinepolicy.net (mailbox.onlinepolicy.net [64.62.161.194]) by mycroft.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id EF22532C4BB for ; Tue, 23 Nov 2004 08:25:34 -0800 (PST) Received: by mailbox.onlinepolicy.net (Postfix, from userid 504) id F1B13188A38; Tue, 23 Nov 2004 09:22:06 -0800 (PST) Received: from [127.0.0.1] (c-24-18-255-132.client.comcast.net [24.18.255.132]) by mailbox.onlinepolicy.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 585FA188A35; Tue, 23 Nov 2004 09:22:06 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <41A3647E.1040501@queernet.org> Date: Tue, 23 Nov 2004 08:25:34 -0800 From: "Roger B.A. Klorese" User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 0.9 (Windows/20041103) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Michael Cc: majordomo-users@greatcircle.com Subject: Re: I'm stumped - can't figure out this majordomo References: <20041123071946.34521.qmail@web12703.mail.yahoo.com> In-Reply-To: <20041123071946.34521.qmail@web12703.mail.yahoo.com> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.86.1.0 X-Enigmail-Supports: pgp-inline, pgp-mime Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Archive-Number: 200411/42 X-Sequence-Number: 4849 Clue: sendmail replaces spaces in a bare address with dots. Therefore it thinks |/usr/local/majordomo/wrapper resend -l test test-list is a bare address. Therefore: you need to say: test: "|/usr/local/majordomo/wrapper resend -l test test-list" ...not test: |/usr/local/majordomo/wrapper resend -l test test-list Michael wrote: > I haven't seen any response to this. Any ideas? > > Thanks! > > >>I'm stumped. My many searches on google have yet to reveal to me the >>seemingly elusive answer to this problem. Anyone come across this >>before? >>Any help would be much appreciated! I'm sure I'm overlooking something >>dumb... Thanks! >> >>Using: >>------ >> >>Solaris 9 (sparc) >>Majordomo Version 1.94.5 >>Sendmail 8.12.10+Sun/8.12.2 >>perl, v5.6.1 >> >>Note: running the Majordomo wrapper config-test confirms the proper >>setup >>and permissions. >> >>Aliases: >>-------- >> >>majordomo: "|/usr/local/majordomo/wrapper majordomo" >>owner-majordomo: jsmith@fakeemail.com >>majordomo-owner: jsmith@fakeemail.com >> >>test: |/usr/local/majordomo/wrapper resend -l test test-list >>test-list: :include:/usr/local/majordomo/lists/test >>owner-test: jsmith@fakeemail.com >>test-request: "|/usr/local/majordomo/wrapper request-answer test" >>test-approval: jsmith@fakeemail.com >> >>Problem: >>-------- >> >>When I email the test alias I get the following bounced message: >> >>----- The following addresses had permanent fatal errors ----- >>|/usr/local/majordomo/wrapper resend -l test test-list >> (reason: 1) >> (expanded from: ) >> >> ----- Transcript of session follows ----- >>Message delivered to mailing list >>sh: /usr/local/majordomo/wrapper.resend.-l.test.test-list: not found >>554 5.3.0 unknown mailer error 1 >> >> >> >>Final-Recipient: RFC822; test@hostname.com >>X-Actual-Recipient: X-Unix; >>|/usr/local/majordomo/wrapper.resend.-l.test.test-list >>Action: failed >>Status: 5.0.0 >>Diagnostic-Code: X-Unix; 1 >>Last-Attempt-Date: Tue, 16 Nov 2004 02:10:19 -0800 (PST) >> >>In sendmail logs I see: >> >>ov 15 00:45:07 dsj-u031 sendmail[11026]: [ID 801593 mail.info] >>iAF8j65U011026: to=|/usr/local/majordomo/wrapper resend -l test >>test-list, >>ctladdr= (1/0), delay=00:00:01, xdelay=00:00:00, >>mailer=prog, pri=31100, dsn=5.3.0, stat=unknown mailer error 1 >>Nov 15 00:45:07 dsw-u031 sendmail[11026]: [ID 801593 mail.info] >>iAF8j65U011026: iAF8j65V011026: >>DSN: unknown mailer error 1 > > > > > > __________________________________ > Do you Yahoo!? > Meet the all-new My Yahoo! - Try it today! > http://my.yahoo.com > > From majordomo-users-owner@greatcircle.com Tue Nov 23 09:12:35 2004 X-Original-To: majordomo-users@greatcircle.com Received: from mail.ccbnpts.com (ccbi-gw.norlight.net [207.170.5.141]) by mycroft.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5B1D932C4C1 for ; Tue, 23 Nov 2004 09:12:29 -0800 (PST) Received: from ccb2vpjza ([192.168.2.114]) by mail.ccbnpts.com (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id iANHCFu8024951; Tue, 23 Nov 2004 11:12:15 -0600 From: "IT Dept" To: "'Michael'" , Subject: Re: I'm stumped - can't figure out this majordomo + mailer error Date: Tue, 23 Nov 2004 11:11:36 -0600 Message-ID: <009401c4d17f$7d7ad430$7202a8c0@ccb2vpjza> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.2627 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1441 In-Reply-To: <20041123071946.34521.qmail@web12703.mail.yahoo.com> Importance: Normal X-Archive-Number: 200411/43 X-Sequence-Number: 4850 Do you have the majordomo user as a trusted user in your Sendmail settings? There is also an error in your alias: test: |/usr/local/majordomo/wrapper resend -l test test-list ... Should be: test: "|/usr/local/majordomo/wrapper resend -l test test-list" << note the quotes Hope that helps. Can't think of anything else off the top of my head. Paul Pettit IT Manager CCB Inc. -----Original Message----- From: majordomo-users-owner@greatcircle.com [mailto:majordomo-users-owner@greatcircle.com] On Behalf Of Michael Sent: Tuesday, November 23, 2004 1:20 AM To: majordomo-users@greatcircle.com Subject: I'm stumped - can't figure out this majordomo + mailer error I haven't seen any response to this. Any ideas? Thanks! > I'm stumped. My many searches on google have yet to reveal to me the > seemingly elusive answer to this problem. Anyone come across this > before? > Any help would be much appreciated! I'm sure I'm overlooking something > dumb... Thanks! > > Using: > ------ > > Solaris 9 (sparc) > Majordomo Version 1.94.5 > Sendmail 8.12.10+Sun/8.12.2 > perl, v5.6.1 > > Note: running the Majordomo wrapper config-test confirms the proper > setup > and permissions. > > Aliases: > -------- > > majordomo: "|/usr/local/majordomo/wrapper majordomo" > owner-majordomo: jsmith@fakeemail.com > majordomo-owner: jsmith@fakeemail.com > > test: |/usr/local/majordomo/wrapper resend -l test test-list > test-list: :include:/usr/local/majordomo/lists/test > owner-test: jsmith@fakeemail.com > test-request: "|/usr/local/majordomo/wrapper request-answer test" > test-approval: jsmith@fakeemail.com > > Problem: > -------- > > When I email the test alias I get the following bounced message: > > ----- The following addresses had permanent fatal errors ----- > |/usr/local/majordomo/wrapper resend -l test test-list > (reason: 1) > (expanded from: ) > > ----- Transcript of session follows ----- > Message delivered to mailing list > sh: /usr/local/majordomo/wrapper.resend.-l.test.test-list: not found > 554 5.3.0 unknown mailer error 1 > > > > Final-Recipient: RFC822; test@hostname.com > X-Actual-Recipient: X-Unix; > |/usr/local/majordomo/wrapper.resend.-l.test.test-list > Action: failed > Status: 5.0.0 > Diagnostic-Code: X-Unix; 1 > Last-Attempt-Date: Tue, 16 Nov 2004 02:10:19 -0800 (PST) > > In sendmail logs I see: > > ov 15 00:45:07 dsj-u031 sendmail[11026]: [ID 801593 mail.info] > iAF8j65U011026: to=|/usr/local/majordomo/wrapper resend -l test > test-list, > ctladdr= (1/0), delay=00:00:01, xdelay=00:00:00, > mailer=prog, pri=31100, dsn=5.3.0, stat=unknown mailer error 1 > Nov 15 00:45:07 dsw-u031 sendmail[11026]: [ID 801593 mail.info] > iAF8j65U011026: iAF8j65V011026: > DSN: unknown mailer error 1 __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Meet the all-new My Yahoo! - Try it today! http://my.yahoo.com From majordomo-users-owner@greatcircle.com Thu Nov 25 08:39:01 2004 X-Original-To: majordomo-users@greatcircle.com Received: from ptb-relay03.plus.net (ptb-relay03.plus.net [212.159.14.214]) by mycroft.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1D66A32C340 for ; Thu, 25 Nov 2004 08:39:00 -0800 (PST) Received: from [84.92.101.38] (helo=[84.92.101.38]) by ptb-relay03.plus.net with esmtp (Exim) id 1CXMe0-0007an-9y for majordomo-users@greatcircle.com; Thu, 25 Nov 2004 16:38:56 +0000 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v619) Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <7E2CB543-3F00-11D9-BC55-000A278CAC92@retrogrademedia.co.uk> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed To: majordomo-users@greatcircle.com From: Craig Hand Subject: Web interface for Majordomo Date: Thu, 25 Nov 2004 16:38:53 +0000 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.619) X-Archive-Number: 200411/44 X-Sequence-Number: 4851 I used Majordomo a few years ago with MajorCool and I've got a couple of mailing lists to set up. Unfortunately, I can't seem to find a copy of MajorCool on any active servers, or indeed any other interfaces like MailServ. Is MajorCool still available? If so, where can I find it; and if not, can anyone recommend an alternative? Cheers, Craig From majordomo-users-owner@greatcircle.com Thu Nov 25 08:58:21 2004 X-Original-To: majordomo-users@greatcircle.com Received: from wrenkasky.com (esson.net [216.102.129.43]) by mycroft.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C451432C157 for ; Thu, 25 Nov 2004 08:58:20 -0800 (PST) Received: from eds.esson.net (eds.wrenkasky.com [10.10.10.11]) (authenticated bits=0) by wrenkasky.com (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id iAPGwIwC001657; Thu, 25 Nov 2004 08:58:19 -0800 Message-Id: <6.0.0.22.2.20041125085650.01b6e0f0@mail.esson.net> X-Sender: ed@mail.esson.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 6.0.0.22 Date: Thu, 25 Nov 2004 08:58:17 -0800 To: Craig Hand , majordomo-users@greatcircle.com From: Ed Kasky Subject: Re: Web interface for Majordomo In-Reply-To: <7E2CB543-3F00-11D9-BC55-000A278CAC92@retrogrademedia.co.uk > References: <7E2CB543-3F00-11D9-BC55-000A278CAC92@retrogrademedia.co.uk> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Received-SPF: pass (wrenkasky.com: 10.10.10.11 is authenticated by a trusted mechanism) X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV 0.80/598/Sat Nov 20 14:30:09 2004 clamav-milter version 0.80j on yoda2.wrenkasky.com X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Archive-Number: 200411/45 X-Sequence-Number: 4852 At 08:38 AM Thursday, 11/25/2004, Craig Hand wrote -=> >I used Majordomo a few years ago with MajorCool and I've got a couple of >mailing lists to set up. Unfortunately, I can't seem to find a copy of >MajorCool on any active servers, or indeed any other interfaces like >MailServ. Is MajorCool still available? If so, where can I find it; and if >not, can anyone recommend an alternative? Google is our friend.... http://www.siliconexus.com/MajorCool/ . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Randomly Generated Quote (249 of 440): Always tell the truth. It's the easiest thing to remember. ~~ David Mamet From majordomo-users-owner@greatcircle.com Thu Nov 25 09:35:39 2004 X-Original-To: majordomo-users@greatcircle.com Received: from ptb-relay03.plus.net (ptb-relay03.plus.net [212.159.14.214]) by mycroft.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 07C4732C18A for ; Thu, 25 Nov 2004 09:35:38 -0800 (PST) Received: from [84.92.101.38] (helo=[84.92.101.38]) by ptb-relay03.plus.net with esmtp (Exim) id 1CXNWr-000JZm-1Y for majordomo-users@greatcircle.com; Thu, 25 Nov 2004 17:35:37 +0000 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v619) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Resent-Date: Thu, 25 Nov 2004 17:35:31 +0000 Message-Id: <676C683A-3F08-11D9-BC55-000A278CAC92@retrogrademedia.co.uk> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-To: majordomo-users@greatcircle.com Resent-Message-Id: <87C457AD-3F06-11D9-BC55-000A278CAC92@retrogrademedia.co.uk> From: Craig Hand Subject: Re: Web interface for Majordomo Resent-From: Craig Hand Date: Thu, 25 Nov 2004 17:22:06 +0000 To: Ed Kasky X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.619) X-Archive-Number: 200411/46 X-Sequence-Number: 4853 Thanks Ed. I'd been trying to find an alternative to the NCR server and completely missed the source link on the MajorCool site. Silly me. Cheers, Craig On 25 Nov 2004, at 16:58, Ed Kasky wrote: > At 08:38 AM Thursday, 11/25/2004, Craig Hand wrote -=> >> I used Majordomo a few years ago with MajorCool and I've got a couple >> of mailing lists to set up. Unfortunately, I can't seem to find a >> copy of MajorCool on any active servers, or indeed any other >> interfaces like MailServ. Is MajorCool still available? If so, where >> can I find it; and if not, can anyone recommend an alternative? > > Google is our friend.... > > http://www.siliconexus.com/MajorCool/ > > . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . > Randomly Generated Quote (249 of 440): > Always tell the truth. It's the easiest thing to remember. > ~~ David Mamet > From majordomo-users-owner@greatcircle.com Fri Nov 26 03:54:35 2004 X-Original-To: majordomo-users@greatcircle.com Received: from web12702.mail.yahoo.com (web12702.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.173.239]) by mycroft.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with SMTP id BDF3632C308 for ; Fri, 26 Nov 2004 03:54:32 -0800 (PST) Received: (qmail 44272 invoked by uid 60001); 26 Nov 2004 12:03:45 -0000 Comment: DomainKeys? See http://antispam.yahoo.com/domainkeys DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; b=zVIX5RqojV+VnAao9TwEDubtYAuKpgsWKiMIj26AvybjkAxoXxsAZrBJHIK991SqOZdXOUwyEQC6hQ8ncSVVhw5W2g0cvVz2AlRR6Uo6bNzG38joNPrpXPpIHHYRq7xfc0DDAvWXhnM1m7zv7p41E0OUV6EE2xYlTLQulhDVIQE= ; Message-ID: <20041126120345.44270.qmail@web12702.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [24.126.242.97] by web12702.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Fri, 26 Nov 2004 04:03:45 PST Date: Fri, 26 Nov 2004 04:03:45 -0800 (PST) From: Michael Subject: Re: I'm stumped - can't figure out this majordomo + mailer error To: "Roger B.A. Klorese" Cc: majordomo-users@greatcircle.com In-Reply-To: <41A3647E.1040501@queernet.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Archive-Number: 200411/47 X-Sequence-Number: 4854 Roger, Thanks to you and others who replied. The quotes fixed the problem. I knew it was something dumb!! :) Really appreciate the help. Regards, -Michael --- "Roger B.A. Klorese" wrote: > Clue: sendmail replaces spaces in a bare address with dots. > > Therefore it thinks > |/usr/local/majordomo/wrapper resend -l test test-list > is a bare address. > > Therefore: you need to say: > test: "|/usr/local/majordomo/wrapper resend -l test test-list" > ...not > test: |/usr/local/majordomo/wrapper resend -l test test-list > > Michael wrote: > > I haven't seen any response to this. Any ideas? > > > > Thanks! > > > > > >>I'm stumped. My many searches on google have yet to reveal to me the > >>seemingly elusive answer to this problem. Anyone come across this > >>before? > >>Any help would be much appreciated! I'm sure I'm overlooking something > >>dumb... Thanks! > >> > >>Using: > >>------ > >> > >>Solaris 9 (sparc) > >>Majordomo Version 1.94.5 > >>Sendmail 8.12.10+Sun/8.12.2 > >>perl, v5.6.1 > >> > >>Note: running the Majordomo wrapper config-test confirms the proper > >>setup > >>and permissions. > >> > >>Aliases: > >>-------- > >> > >>majordomo: "|/usr/local/majordomo/wrapper majordomo" > >>owner-majordomo: jsmith@fakeemail.com > >>majordomo-owner: jsmith@fakeemail.com > >> > >>test: |/usr/local/majordomo/wrapper resend -l test test-list > >>test-list: :include:/usr/local/majordomo/lists/test > >>owner-test: jsmith@fakeemail.com > >>test-request: "|/usr/local/majordomo/wrapper request-answer test" > >>test-approval: jsmith@fakeemail.com > >> > >>Problem: > >>-------- > >> > >>When I email the test alias I get the following bounced message: > >> > >>----- The following addresses had permanent fatal errors ----- > >>|/usr/local/majordomo/wrapper resend -l test test-list > >> (reason: 1) > >> (expanded from: ) > >> > >> ----- Transcript of session follows ----- > >>Message delivered to mailing list > >>sh: /usr/local/majordomo/wrapper.resend.-l.test.test-list: not found > >>554 5.3.0 unknown mailer error 1 > >> > >> > >> > >>Final-Recipient: RFC822; test@hostname.com > >>X-Actual-Recipient: X-Unix; > >>|/usr/local/majordomo/wrapper.resend.-l.test.test-list > >>Action: failed > >>Status: 5.0.0 > >>Diagnostic-Code: X-Unix; 1 > >>Last-Attempt-Date: Tue, 16 Nov 2004 02:10:19 -0800 (PST) > >> > >>In sendmail logs I see: > >> > >>ov 15 00:45:07 dsj-u031 sendmail[11026]: [ID 801593 mail.info] > >>iAF8j65U011026: to=|/usr/local/majordomo/wrapper resend -l test > >>test-list, > >>ctladdr= (1/0), delay=00:00:01, > xdelay=00:00:00, > >>mailer=prog, pri=31100, dsn=5.3.0, stat=unknown mailer error 1 > >>Nov 15 00:45:07 dsw-u031 sendmail[11026]: [ID 801593 mail.info] > >>iAF8j65U011026: iAF8j65V011026: > >>DSN: unknown mailer error 1 > > > > > > > > > > > > > __________________________________ > > Do you Yahoo!? > > Meet the all-new My Yahoo! - Try it today! > > http://my.yahoo.com > > > > > > __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? The all-new My Yahoo! - Get yours free! http://my.yahoo.com From majordomo-users-owner@greatcircle.com Sat Nov 27 03:19:49 2004 X-Original-To: majordomo-users@greatcircle.com Received: from siaar1aa.compuserve.com (siaar1aa.compuserve.com [149.174.40.9]) by mycroft.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id BFBDF32C419 for ; Sat, 27 Nov 2004 03:19:29 -0800 (PST) Received: (from mailgate@localhost) by siaar1aa.compuserve.com (8.12.11/8.12.7/SUN-REL-2.14) id iARBSEF3004911 for majordomo-users@greatcircle.com; Sat, 27 Nov 2004 06:28:14 -0500 (EST) Received: from MyNewComputer (uk4-tgn-lmn-vty9.as.wcom.net [212.211.109.9]) by siaar1aa.compuserve.com (8.12.11/8.12.7/SUN-REL-2.14) with SMTP id iARBRmSX004762 for ; Sat, 27 Nov 2004 06:28:10 -0500 (EST) Reply-To: From: "Clare Redstone" To: "Majordomo users" Subject: Create archive on PC Date: Sat, 27 Nov 2004 11:33:21 -0000 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1409 Importance: Normal X-Virus-Scanned: clamd / ClamAV version 0.70, clamav-milter version 0.70j X-Archive-Number: 200411/48 X-Sequence-Number: 4855 My host service uses a modified version of Majordomo in Ensim so I cannot set up digests or archives. Does anyone know a simple way of creating archives (preferably threaded and searchable) on my PC. I could then upload them to the website. Is there a program that would make this easy for me? I use Outlook 2000 so would need something that could extract the messages from an Outlook folder. Or any other way I could set it up on the server instead of my PC? I wondered about MailMan but the server doesn’t use Python. I think the reason we can’t have digests or archives is because we don’t have root permissions. (I may have misunderstood – I am a complete newbie.) Alternatively, anyone know a good host in the UK I could change to that has everything set up ready to install? It’s very important they have excellent support as I need all the help I can get! Thank you. Clare