From majordomo-users-owner@greatcircle.com Sat Oct 1 05:39:37 2005 X-Original-To: majordomo-users@greatcircle.com Received: from nc3-0016.web.uk.netscalibur.com (nc3-0016.web.uk.netscalibur.com [195.157.100.95]) by mycroft.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 377C632C216 for ; Sat, 1 Oct 2005 05:39:19 -0700 (PDT) Received: from DESKTOP (volvodsl.claranet.co.uk [80.168.254.234]) by nc3-0016.web.uk.netscalibur.com (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id j91CpRCL019738 for ; Sat, 1 Oct 2005 13:51:32 +0100 Message-Id: <200510011251.j91CpRCL019738@nc3-0016.web.uk.netscalibur.com> Reply-To: From: "Robert Isaac" To: Subject: Error message Date: Sat, 1 Oct 2005 13:53:08 +0100 Organization: Volvo Owners Club MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook, Build 11.0.6353 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2670 Thread-Index: AcXGhxDpqJvrB1kNRSSPWJcFrOx/gQ== X-Archive-Number: 200510/1 X-Sequence-Number: 5193 BOUNCE directors@volvoclub.org.uk: Admin request of type /\bchange\b.*\baddress\b/ at line 3 I got the above error in the subject box, can someone please explain. Majordomo 1.94.5 Sendmail 8.13.1 O/S RHESL4 Apache 2.0.52 Perl 5.8.5 ___________________________________________________ Robert Isaac Director and Web Administrator Volvo Owners Club www.volvoclub.org.uk Please include all previous text with reply All messages are scanned with an antivirus scanner. From majordomo-users-owner@greatcircle.com Sun Oct 2 09:48:56 2005 X-Original-To: majordomo-users@greatcircle.com Received: from mail.sonny.com (unknown [70.58.223.141]) by mycroft.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1C6CB32C3E6 for ; Sun, 2 Oct 2005 09:48:54 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.1.60] (father.sonny.com [192.168.1.60]) by magnia.sonny.com (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 Patch 1 (built Aug 19 2002)) with ESMTPA id <0INQ00G03RO6EY@magnia.sonny.com> for majordomo-users@greatcircle.com; Sun, 02 Oct 2005 11:40:56 -0500 (CDT) Date: Sun, 02 Oct 2005 11:48:48 -0500 From: Daniel Liston Subject: Re: load problems with Majordomo and bulk_mailer In-reply-to: <433D4C8F.4010708@bard.edu> To: Majordomo Users Cc: Stewart Dean Message-id: <43400F70.30709@sonny.org> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-Accept-Language: en-us, en User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.11) Gecko/20050728 References: <433D4C8F.4010708@bard.edu> X-Archive-Number: 200510/2 X-Sequence-Number: 5194 Are you using subscription confirmation messages? This is your first defense in keeping a clean list. Do you clean your lists of bad addresses after experiencing the load and delay problems? We have to realize that people do move/change addresses without bothering to update their subscription information too. This should be a daily process on a busy list, and monthly on less active lists. Do you sort your lists by domain periodically? This won't necessarily help load, but will improve efficiency. Keep in mind, majordomo is NOT delivering mail. Majordomo does ALL it's mail communication with the local MTA. Tuning majordomo really means tuning your MTA and items your MTA has dependencies on. (like how clean you keep your lists) The MTA can be short-circuited for additional processing by bulk_mailer, but ultimately the MTA still does the delivery. We need to look to the MTA to stop accepting mail (or even delivering) when the load average is above "X". Remember, majordomo only applies access control and other rules before passing the message and the distribution addresses to the MTA. Dan Liston Stewart Dean wrote: > I have a number of moderately large lists (300-3000) whose processing is > causing CPU loading problems on my majordomo server. I've had some > success with a few things I've tried, but I'd appreciate your > suggestions for a better way to throttle the load. > > Here's what I've done so far: > > With the original vanilla majordomo install: > 1) these large lists were hanging and being delayed by bad addresses > (over which I have no control) > 2) I was seeing extended 100%CPU utilizations > 3) I was seeing miserable throughput, which I was attributing to > n-squared proportionality > 4) I was concerned with sending envelopes with some 30-50 messages to > ISPs like AOL. > > > Then I installed bulk_mailer and set maxrcpts=10 and cured some of these > problems: > 1) a bad address just hangs the group of 10 mailings it's in > 2) I ended up with even heavier....but much briefer...loads > 3) throughput has turned into an avalanche...which was a problem > I was now seeing uptime load averages as high as 200 or more and I was > getting errors from delayed or aborted operations (Draining Input, > Operating System error, etc), some duplicate mailings. > > So I uncommented the section in majordomo.cf that defers incoming mail > to majordomo when the uptime load average gets above a defined value and > set that to 10. > > That helped a bit...but not a lot...here's why: > a single job gets submitted into majordomo....which processes it and (so > far no great load, so no throttling) hands it off to bulkmailer which > splits it into multiple jobs of 10 recipients each.../this/ puts a > substantial load on the majordomo host, but the load is already past the > gatekeeper. > > What's happening is that numerous jobs get accepted by majordomo > /BEFORE/ the load average gets high enough to defer further mailings. > The numerous jobs that did get accepted by majordomo then get expanded > by bulk-mailer and the system gets clobbered. > So majordomo throttling will not keep the CPU from going to 100%, but it > will defer new jobs once it has reached the load average > trigger...somewhat too late. Though the uptime load average trigger is > set at 10, once bulk_mailer expands the jobs and things get rolling, the > load average can go as high as 30....even though majordomo deferred > things after it hit 10! > > Does anyone know of a better way to throttle majordomo and/or bulk_mailer? From majordomo-users-owner@greatcircle.com Mon Oct 3 21:57:10 2005 X-Original-To: majordomo-users@greatcircle.com Received: from visolve.com (adsl-68-123-137-84.dsl.pltn13.pacbell.net [68.123.137.84]) by mycroft.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 730B632C176 for ; Mon, 3 Oct 2005 21:57:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 24696 invoked from network); 4 Oct 2005 04:57:16 -0000 Received: from localhost (HELO ViMailFilter-nospam) ([127.0.0.1]) (envelope-sender ) by visolve.com (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP for ; 4 Oct 2005 04:57:16 -0000 Received: from 203.193.157.82 ([203.193.157.82] helo=sigco) by ViMailFilter-nospam ; 4 Oct 05 04:57:14 -0000 Message-ID: <012c01c5c8a0$0ec12a30$340110ac@sigco> From: "sivabalakrishnan.G" To: , Subject: Re: Error message Date: Tue, 4 Oct 2005 10:26:59 +0530 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0129_01C5C8CE.26DF6540" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 X-Archive-Number: 200510/3 X-Sequence-Number: 5195 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0129_01C5C8CE.26DF6540 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hello, >BOUNCE directors@volvoclub.org.uk: Admin request of type >/\bchange\b.*\baddress\b/ at line 3=20 >I got the above error in the subject box, can someone please explain. You set administrivia to yes in list config file .Set it in your list confi= g file to no. Regards, Sivabalakrishnan.G www.visolve.com support@visolve.com ------=_NextPart_000_0129_01C5C8CE.26DF6540 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hello,
 
>BOUNCE directors@volvoclub.org.uk:     Admin= =20 request of type
>/\bchange\b.*\baddress\b/ at line 3

>I go= t the=20 above error in the subject box, can someone please explain.
You set administrivia to yes in list confi= g file=20 .Set it in your list config file to no.
Regards,
Sivabalakrishnan.G
www.visolve.com
support@visolve.com
 
------=_NextPart_000_0129_01C5C8CE.26DF6540-- From majordomo-users-owner@greatcircle.com Tue Oct 4 20:26:32 2005 X-Original-To: majordomo-users@greatcircle.com Received: from visolve.com (adsl-68-123-137-84.dsl.pltn13.pacbell.net [68.123.137.84]) by mycroft.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 045EE32C5FE for ; Tue, 4 Oct 2005 20:26:30 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 502 invoked from network); 5 Oct 2005 03:26:31 -0000 Received: from localhost (HELO ViMailFilter-nospam) ([127.0.0.1]) (envelope-sender ) by visolve.com (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP for ; 5 Oct 2005 03:26:31 -0000 Received: from 203.193.157.82 ([203.193.157.82] helo=sigco) by ViMailFilter-nospam ; 5 Oct 05 03:26:29 -0000 Message-ID: <004c01c5c95c$8c2b9d90$340110ac@sigco> From: "sivabalakrishnan.G" To: Cc: Subject: Re: Time zone of time stamping Date: Wed, 5 Oct 2005 08:56:13 +0530 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0049_01C5C98A.A37F0E90" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 X-Archive-Number: 200510/4 X-Sequence-Number: 5196 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0049_01C5C98A.A37F0E90 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hello , >I think I can say that instances of sendmail and bulk_mailer that are=20 >invoked by majordomo are getting timestamped with the UTC time, whereas=20 >the standard on the AIX operating system and on instances of sendmail=20 >/not/ started by majordomo, timestamps are done under EDT. >Is there a place where I can configure the TZ or equivalent to get mj=20 >invoked stuff using EDT? >I think I'm using md 1.94.5. The AIX is V5.2 and sendmail 8.11 >Appreciate some help! If you want the date printed and labelled in a particular timezone (GMT,s= ay), you need to set that timezone in your TZ environment variable,somethin= g like this in your majordomo.cf file works well: $ENV{"TZ"} =3D "GMT"; Regards, Sivabalakrishnan.G www.visolve.com support@visolve.com ------=_NextPart_000_0049_01C5C98A.A37F0E90 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hello ,
 
>I think I can say that instances of se= ndmail=20 and bulk_mailer that are
>invoked by majordomo are getting timestamp= ed=20 with the UTC time, whereas
>the standard on the AIX operating system= and=20 on instances of sendmail
>/not/ started by majordomo, timestamps are= done=20 under EDT.
>Is there a place where I can configure the TZ or equivale= nt to=20 get mj
>invoked stuff using EDT?
>I think I'm using md=20 1.94.5.  The AIX is V5.2 and sendmail 8.11

>Appreciate some= =20 help!
 
  If you want the date printed and la= belled in=20 a particular timezone (GMT,say), you need to set that timezone in your TZ= =20 environment variable,something like this in your majordomo.cf file works=20 well:

    $ENV{"TZ"} =3D "GMT";
 

 
Regards,
Sivabalakrishnan.G
www.visolve.com
support@visolve.com
 ------=_NextPart_000_0049_01C5C98A.A37F0E90-- From majordomo-users-owner@greatcircle.com Mon Oct 10 23:35:58 2005 X-Original-To: Majordomo-Users@GreatCircle.COM Received: from web54509.mail.yahoo.com (web54509.mail.yahoo.com [206.190.49.159]) by mycroft.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with SMTP id BA73532C3A8 for ; Mon, 10 Oct 2005 23:35:55 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 11794 invoked by uid 60001); 11 Oct 2005 06:35:54 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=ae1g3la6YnQmTwUYWY42ZI9FjdxMjOi/VHIwU/yLyO+At8mZ5oJcR6ipdWTL5+GhOj2Rr1Pv6Dy5KZ5b6SGcu+ep1nqp96veytydA0C9iDvj0KmSrCDI8DRsSoGszQUVR+nYwjGm14VDd1L+2FP3uyCn6F+EqvMhbS6MzDiSIBc= ; Message-ID: <20051011063554.11792.qmail@web54509.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [67.172.255.147] by web54509.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Mon, 10 Oct 2005 23:35:54 PDT Date: Mon, 10 Oct 2005 23:35:54 -0700 (PDT) From: Gregory Griffiths Subject: Installing question To: Majordomo-Users@GreatCircle.COM MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Archive-Number: 200510/5 X-Sequence-Number: 5197 O.K., got a question about installing Majordomo. In the README file page, it has a sentence that states, "The INSTALL file details how to install and configure Majordomo." My problem is I can't FIND any INSTALL file. Where is it located? ~Gregory __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From majordomo-users-owner@greatcircle.com Tue Oct 11 05:52:46 2005 X-Original-To: Majordomo-Users@greatcircle.com Received: from wrenkasky.com (esson.net [216.102.129.43]) by mycroft.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7398F32C58D for ; Tue, 11 Oct 2005 05:52:35 -0700 (PDT) Received: from EDS.esson.net (eds.wrenkasky.com [10.10.10.11]) (authenticated bits=0) by wrenkasky.com (8.13.4/8.13.4) with ESMTP id j9BD5VNi001378 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-SHA bits=128 verify=NOT) for ; Tue, 11 Oct 2005 06:05:37 -0700 Message-Id: <6.0.0.22.2.20051011060337.01bc7900@mail.esson.net> X-Sender: ed@mail.esson.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 6.0.0.22 Date: Tue, 11 Oct 2005 06:05:32 -0700 To: Majordomo-Users@greatcircle.com From: Ed Kasky Subject: Re: Installing question In-Reply-To: <20051011063554.11792.qmail@web54509.mail.yahoo.com> References: <20051011063554.11792.qmail@web54509.mail.yahoo.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Received-SPF: pass (wrenkasky.com: 10.10.10.11 is authenticated by a trusted mechanism) X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV 0.87/1128/Mon Oct 10 18:30:06 2005 on yoda2.wrenkasky.com X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Archive-Number: 200510/6 X-Sequence-Number: 5198 At 11:35 PM Monday, 10/10/2005, Gregory Griffiths wrote -=> >O.K., got a question about installing Majordomo. > >In the README file page, it has a sentence that >states, "The INSTALL file details how to install and >configure Majordomo." > >My problem is I can't FIND any INSTALL file. Where is >it located? In the root of the source package. Where are you looking? . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Randomly Generated Quote (932 of 1007): What fools these morals be! From majordomo-users-owner@greatcircle.com Fri Oct 14 06:03:21 2005 X-Original-To: majordomo-users@greatcircle.com Received: from hub-east.nems.noaa.gov (hub-east.nems.noaa.gov [140.90.121.159]) by mycroft.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2B34832C19D for ; Fri, 14 Oct 2005 06:03:04 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [140.90.7.54] (ohd-7-54.nws.noaa.gov [140.90.7.54]) by hub-east.nems.noaa.gov (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 2.01 (built Aug 26 2004)) with ESMTPSA id <0IOC00BAQQ59VK@hub-east.nems.noaa.gov> for majordomo-users@greatcircle.com; Fri, 14 Oct 2005 09:15:09 -0400 (EDT) Date: Fri, 14 Oct 2005 09:15:08 -0400 From: Randy Brown Subject: restrict_post acknowlegement email To: majordomo-users@greatcircle.com Message-id: <434FAF5C.4020904@noaa.gov> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: multipart/mixed; boundary="Boundary_(ID_vZloVvUVNmDiVMrQEB+Xyg)" X-Accept-Language: en-us, en User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.6 (Windows/20050716) X-Archive-Number: 200510/7 X-Sequence-Number: 5199 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --Boundary_(ID_vZloVvUVNmDiVMrQEB+Xyg) Content-type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT I am running majordomo 1.9.4 and using the restrict_post option to limit who can post to the list. This is working fine. However, when an unauthorized user tries to post to this list, the message gets bounced to the list owner, which is fine, but the user attempting to post gets nothing telling them that they cannot post to this list. Is there a way to have majordomo send a response to the subscriber telling them that they cannot post messages to the list? Thank you in advance! Randy --Boundary_(ID_vZloVvUVNmDiVMrQEB+Xyg) Content-type: text/x-vcard; charset=utf-8; name=randy.brown.vcf Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-disposition: attachment; filename=randy.brown.vcf begin:vcard fn:Randy Brown n:Brown;Randy org:NOAA/National Weather Service;Office of Hydrologic Development adr;dom:;;1325 East West Highway;Silver Spring;MD;20910 email;internet:randy.brown@noaa.gov title:Systems Administrator tel;work:301-713-1669 x110 tel;cell:443-794-6818 url:http://www.nws.noaa.gov/ohd version:2.1 end:vcard --Boundary_(ID_vZloVvUVNmDiVMrQEB+Xyg)-- From majordomo-users-owner@greatcircle.com Fri Oct 14 06:24:14 2005 X-Original-To: majordomo-users@greatcircle.com Received: from wrenkasky.com (esson.net [216.102.129.43]) by mycroft.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2D74A32C1CF for ; Fri, 14 Oct 2005 06:24:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: from EDS.esson.net (eds.wrenkasky.com [10.10.10.11]) (authenticated bits=0) by wrenkasky.com (8.13.4/8.13.4) with ESMTP id j9EDb59K027747 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-SHA bits=128 verify=NOT); Fri, 14 Oct 2005 06:37:10 -0700 Message-Id: <6.0.0.22.2.20051014063531.01c2bdf8@mail.esson.net> X-Sender: ed@mail.esson.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 6.0.0.22 Date: Fri, 14 Oct 2005 06:37:04 -0700 To: Randy Brown , majordomo-users@greatcircle.com From: Ed Kasky Subject: Re: restrict_post acknowlegement email In-Reply-To: <434FAF5C.4020904@noaa.gov> References: <434FAF5C.4020904@noaa.gov> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Received-SPF: pass (wrenkasky.com: 10.10.10.11 is authenticated by a trusted mechanism) X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV 0.87/1132/Thu Oct 13 14:09:54 2005 on yoda2.wrenkasky.com X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Archive-Number: 200510/8 X-Sequence-Number: 5200 At 06:15 AM Friday, 10/14/2005, Randy Brown wrote -=> >I am running majordomo 1.9.4 and using the restrict_post option to limit >who can post to the list. This is working fine. However, when an >unauthorized user tries to post to this list, the message gets bounced to >the list owner, which is fine, but the user attempting to post gets >nothing telling them that they cannot post to this list. Is there a way >to have majordomo send a response to the subscriber telling them that they >cannot post messages to the list? I am not 100% sure about a moderated list, but there is the following in the list.config: # non_member_bounce [enum] () /;sender;sender-owner/ # One of three values: blank, sender, or sender-owner. If left # blank the message is bounced to the list owner. Sender allows # the sender to be notified in addition to the owner receiving the # bounced message. Sender-owner causes the sender to be notified, # but not the owner. non_member_bounce = sender Ed . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Randomly Generated Quote (607 of 1008): It depends on what the meaning of the word "is" is. - President Clinton, during his grand jusry testimony From majordomo-users-owner@greatcircle.com Fri Oct 14 20:37:14 2005 X-Original-To: majordomo-users@greatcircle.com Received: from cloud.ccsf.cc.ca.us (cloud.ccsf.cc.ca.us [147.144.1.212]) by mycroft.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9B79632C507 for ; Fri, 14 Oct 2005 20:37:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (jjah@localhost) by cloud.ccsf.cc.ca.us (8.11.6/8.11.2) with ESMTP id j9F3W8t12325; Fri, 14 Oct 2005 20:32:08 -0700 (PDT) Date: Fri, 14 Oct 2005 20:32:08 -0700 (PDT) From: "Joe R. Jah" To: Ed Kasky Cc: Randy Brown , majordomo-users@greatcircle.com Subject: Re: restrict_post acknowlegement email In-Reply-To: <6.0.0.22.2.20051014063531.01c2bdf8@mail.esson.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Archive-Number: 200510/9 X-Sequence-Number: 5201 On Fri, 14 Oct 2005, Ed Kasky wrote: > Date: Fri, 14 Oct 2005 06:37:04 -0700 > From: Ed Kasky > To: Randy Brown , majordomo-users@greatcircle.com > Subject: Re: restrict_post acknowlegement email > > At 06:15 AM Friday, 10/14/2005, Randy Brown wrote -=> > >I am running majordomo 1.9.4 and using the restrict_post option to limit > >who can post to the list. This is working fine. However, when an > >unauthorized user tries to post to this list, the message gets bounced to > >the list owner, which is fine, but the user attempting to post gets > >nothing telling them that they cannot post to this list. Is there a way > >to have majordomo send a response to the subscriber telling them that they > >cannot post messages to the list? > > I am not 100% sure about a moderated list, but there is the following in > the list.config: > > # non_member_bounce [enum] () /;sender;sender-owner/ > # One of three values: blank, sender, or sender-owner. If left > # blank the message is bounced to the list owner. Sender allows > # the sender to be notified in addition to the owner receiving the > # bounced message. Sender-owner causes the sender to be notified, > # but not the owner. > non_member_bounce = sender > > Ed You have non_member_bounce attribute in your list config file because you have applied config_parse.pl-resend patch to Majordomo 1.94.5. If Randy runs Majordomo 1.94.5, then he could apply the latest version of the patch: ftp://ftp.ccsf.org/majordomo-patches/1.94.5/config_parse.pl-resend.3 Regards, Joe -- _/ _/_/_/ _/ ____________ __o _/ _/ _/ _/ ______________ _-\<,_ _/ _/ _/_/_/ _/ _/ ......(_)/ (_) _/_/ oe _/ _/. _/_/ ah jjah@cloud.ccsf.cc.ca.us From majordomo-users-owner@greatcircle.com Sun Oct 16 20:03:55 2005 X-Original-To: Majordomo-Users@greatcircle.com Received: from web54510.mail.yahoo.com (web54510.mail.yahoo.com [206.190.49.160]) by mycroft.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with SMTP id EB71E32C341 for ; Sun, 16 Oct 2005 20:03:54 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 96288 invoked by uid 60001); 17 Oct 2005 03:03:53 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=yv9xKrx2rxHnrd3c3PjCRCq4JiZSauTT0W2Fyp3wJeveMXhOHny9Gq1MA8/YqZyr/aHzRho9xMP9OOY321+YERSN2tSXlyiO+woF+7hK+4HljcRMjYwAE5yMXTW8NEXRBQUsOO2+0+g+1GmfTbW9BzM5w8bBBpgZ53tz86o+gs0= ; Message-ID: <20051017030353.96286.qmail@web54510.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [67.172.255.147] by web54510.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Sun, 16 Oct 2005 20:03:53 PDT Date: Sun, 16 Oct 2005 20:03:53 -0700 (PDT) From: Gregory Griffiths Subject: Re: Installing question To: Majordomo-Users@greatcircle.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Archive-Number: 200510/10 X-Sequence-Number: 5202 >In the root of the source package. > >Where are you looking? I've checked everywhere I could think to look, including the source package, which doesn't seem to have *anything* that I can identify as seperate files (which, perhaps, is the problem?). Someone on the list did pass on to me a link to an archived e-mail on the Majordomo-Workers (from December '96), but if anything the thing left me even more confused than before. ~Gregory __________________________________ Yahoo! Mail - PC Magazine Editors' Choice 2005 http://mail.yahoo.com From majordomo-users-owner@greatcircle.com Mon Oct 17 06:03:17 2005 X-Original-To: majordomo-users@greatcircle.com Received: from skywalker.dahl-stamnes.net (38.80-203-206.nextgentel.com [80.203.206.38]) by mycroft.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 81F5332C5BE for ; Mon, 17 Oct 2005 05:55:30 -0700 (PDT) Received: from jedi.dahl-stamnes.net (jedi.dahl-stamnes.net [194.213.166.140]) by skywalker.dahl-stamnes.net (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id j9HD5xLi003767 for ; Mon, 17 Oct 2005 15:05:59 +0200 Received: from jedi.dahl-stamnes.net (jedi.dahl-stamnes.net [127.0.0.1]) by jedi.dahl-stamnes.net (8.13.4/8.13.4) with ESMTP id j9HD5x5Q005578 for ; Mon, 17 Oct 2005 15:05:59 +0200 Received: from localhost (localhost [[UNIX: localhost]]) by jedi.dahl-stamnes.net (8.13.4/8.13.4/Submit) id j9HD5wcs005577 for majordomo-users@greatcircle.com; Mon, 17 Oct 2005 15:05:58 +0200 X-Authentication-Warning: jedi.dahl-stamnes.net: dahls set sender to mdomo.user@dahl-stamnes.net using -f From: =?utf-8?q?J=C3=B8rn_Dahl-Stamnes?= Reply-To: mdomo.user@dahl-stamnes.net To: majordomo-users@greatcircle.com Subject: Majordomo for real dummies. Date: Mon, 17 Oct 2005 15:05:58 +0200 User-Agent: KMail/1.8 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200510171505.58755.mdomo.user@dahl-stamnes.net> X-Archive-Number: 200510/11 X-Sequence-Number: 5203 I installed majordomo today, but I still don't have a clue of how to create= a=20 list on my mail server. I have read the documents over and over again, but= =20 still I'm confused. Could someone please give me a detail description of how I can create a=20 mailing list using majordomo? Assume I want to create my own list called "majordomo-for-real-dumbass" and= =20 add my e-mail address to the list? --=20 J=C3=B8rn Dahl-Stamnes e-mail: mdomo.user@dahl-stamnes.net homepage: http://www.dahl-stamnes.net/dahls/ From majordomo-users-owner@greatcircle.com Mon Oct 17 07:17:50 2005 X-Original-To: majordomo-users@greatcircle.com Received: from skywalker.dahl-stamnes.net (38.80-203-206.nextgentel.com [80.203.206.38]) by mycroft.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 714B532C168 for ; Mon, 17 Oct 2005 07:17:40 -0700 (PDT) Received: from jedi.dahl-stamnes.net (jedi.dahl-stamnes.net [194.213.166.140]) by skywalker.dahl-stamnes.net (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id j9HEHabk004453; Mon, 17 Oct 2005 16:17:38 +0200 Received: from jedi.dahl-stamnes.net (jedi.dahl-stamnes.net [127.0.0.1]) by jedi.dahl-stamnes.net (8.13.4/8.13.4) with ESMTP id j9HEHa1P006857; Mon, 17 Oct 2005 16:17:36 +0200 Received: from localhost (localhost [[UNIX: localhost]]) by jedi.dahl-stamnes.net (8.13.4/8.13.4/Submit) id j9HEHZeB006856; Mon, 17 Oct 2005 16:17:35 +0200 X-Authentication-Warning: jedi.dahl-stamnes.net: dahls set sender to mdomo.user@dahl-stamnes.net using -f From: =?utf-8?q?J=C3=B8rn_Dahl-Stamnes?= Reply-To: mdomo.user@dahl-stamnes.net To: majordomo-users@greatcircle.com Subject: Re: Majordomo for real dummies. Date: Mon, 17 Oct 2005 16:17:35 +0200 User-Agent: KMail/1.8 References: <200510171505.58755.mdomo.user@dahl-stamnes.net> In-Reply-To: <200510171505.58755.mdomo.user@dahl-stamnes.net> Cc: "Doty, Robert" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200510171617.35742.mdomo.user@dahl-stamnes.net> X-Archive-Number: 200510/12 X-Sequence-Number: 5204 On Monday 17 October 2005 15:05, J=C3=B8rn Dahl-Stamnes wrote: > I installed majordomo today, but I still don't have a clue of how to crea= te > a list on my mail server. I have read the documents over and over again, > but still I'm confused. > > Could someone please give me a detail description of how I can create a > mailing list using majordomo? > > Assume I want to create my own list called "majordomo-for-real-dumbass" a= nd > add my e-mail address to the list? Based on the information on the NEWLIST file, I have tried to: cd /usr/local/majordomo touch Lists/testlist chmod 664 Lists/testlist echo "some text" > Lists/testlist.info chmod 664 Lists/testlist.info vi majordomo.aliases and added the lines: testlist: :include:/usr/local/majordomo/Lists/testlist owner-testlist: , testlist-request: "|/usr/local/majordomo/wrapper request-answer testlist" testlist-approval: then a 'su -' and a 'newaliases ' Then I tried to send a mail to testlist-request@dahl-stamnes.net with the subject "subscribe" from an=20 external mail account. This is the reply I get from my mail-server > =C2=A0 =C2=A0----- The following addresses had permanent fatal errors ---= -- >"|/usr/local/majordomo/wrapper request-answer testlist" > =C2=A0 =C2=A0 (reason: Service unavailable) > =C2=A0 =C2=A0 (expanded from: ) > > =C2=A0 =C2=A0----- Transcript of session follows ----- >smrsh: "wrapper" not available for sendmail programs (stat failed) >554 5.0.0 Service unavailable I have added a link in /etc/shrsh to the wrapper program: [root@mailer majordomo]# ls -l /etc/smrsh/ lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 28 Oct 17 14:01 wrapper=20 -> /usr/local/majordomo/wrapper --=20 J=C3=B8rn Dahl-Stamnes e-mail: mdomo.user@dahl-stamnes.net homepage: http://www.dahl-stamnes.net/dahls/ From majordomo-users-owner@greatcircle.com Wed Oct 19 05:43:33 2005 X-Original-To: majordomo-users@greatcircle.com Received: from visolve.com (adsl-68-123-137-84.dsl.pltn13.pacbell.net [68.123.137.84]) by mycroft.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id F0D8932C384 for ; Wed, 19 Oct 2005 05:43:04 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 13601 invoked from network); 19 Oct 2005 12:52:43 -0000 Received: from localhost (HELO ViMailFilter-nospam) ([127.0.0.1]) (envelope-sender ) by visolve.com (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP for ; 19 Oct 2005 12:52:43 -0000 Received: from 203.193.157.82 ([203.193.157.82] helo=sigco) by ViMailFilter-nospam ; 19 Oct 05 12:52:39 -0000 Message-ID: <024d01c5d4ab$fcac8cf0$340110ac@sigco> From: "sivabalakrishnan.G" To: "siva" , Cc: Subject: Re: Majordomo for real dummies. Date: Wed, 19 Oct 2005 18:22:34 +0530 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0242_01C5D4DA.135454A0" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 X-Archive-Number: 200510/13 X-Sequence-Number: 5205 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0242_01C5D4DA.135454A0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hello , >I installed majordomo today, but I still don't have a clue of how to creat= e a=20 >list on my mail server. I have read the documents over and over again, but= =20 >still I'm confused. >Could someone please give me a detail description of how I can create a=20 >mailing list using majordomo? >Assume I want to create my own list called "majordomo-for-real-dumbass" an= d=20 >add my e-mail address to the list? You can create a list with name "majordomo-for-real-dumbass" by following t= he steps given below . cd #touch lists/majordomo-for-real-dumbass #chown daemon:daemon lists/majordomo-for-real-dumbass #chmod 644 lists/majordomo-for-real-dumbass =20 Edit the file /etc/aliases (or) /etc/mail/aliases majordomo: "|/wrapper majordomo"=20 owner-majordomo: majordomo-users: :include:/majordomo/lists/majord= omo-for-real-dumbass owner-majordomo-users:=20 Restart the sendmail Edit: /opt/iexpress/majordomo/majordomo.cf Eg; $whereami =3D "172.16.1.156"; $whoami =3D "siva\@$whereami"; $whoami_owner =3D "siva\@$whereami";if ( defined $ENV{"HOME"}) { $homedir =3D $ENV{"HOME"}; } else { $homedir =3D "/opt/iexpress/majordomo"; } To subscribe as a user in the majordomo-for-real-dumbass list. 1.login as that user 2.Mail to majordomo on requesting to subscribe Eg; $ mail majordomo subscribe majordomo-for-real-dumbass =2E 3.For confirmation sed=20 Eg, $ mail majordomo auth dd352694 subscribe majordomo-for-real-dumbass siva@krishna.kovaiteam.c= om =2E Now the email address eg;siva@krishna.kovaiteam.com is subscribed to majord= omo-for-real-dumbass Regards, Sivabalakrishnan.G www.visolve.com Mail to :support@visolve.com =20 ------=_NextPart_000_0242_01C5D4DA.135454A0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hello ,
 
>I installed majordomo today, but I sti= ll don't=20 have a clue of how to create a
>list on my mail server. I have read = the=20 documents over and over again, but
>still I'm confused.
 
>Could someone please give me a detail= =20 description of how I can create a
>mailing list using=20 majordomo?
 
>Assume I want to create my own list ca= lled=20 "majordomo-for-real-dumbass" and
>add my e-mail address to the=20 list?
 
You can create a list with name=20 "majordomo-for-real-dumbass" by following the steps given below .
 
cd <to lists path>
#touch=20 lists/majordomo-for-real-dumbass
#chown daemon:daemon=20 lists/majordomo-for-real-dumbass
#chmod 644=20 lists/majordomo-for-real-dumbass
 
Edit the file /etc/al= iases=20 (or)  /etc/mail/aliases
majordomo: "|<path to wrapper>/wrapp= er=20 majordomo"
owner-majordomo:<user name>
majordomo-users:=20 :include:<majordomo installed=20 path>/majordomo/lists/majordomo-for-real-dumbass
owner-majordomo-user= s:<user=20 name>
 
Restart the sendmail
 
Edit:=20 /opt/iexpress/majordomo/majordomo.cf
Eg;
$whereami =3D "172.16.1.156";
$w= hoami =3D=20 "siva\@$whereami";
$whoami_owner =3D "siva\@$whereami";if ( defined=20 $ENV{"HOME"}) {
     $homedir =3D $ENV{"HOME"};
}= else=20 {
     $homedir =3D=20 "/opt/iexpress/majordomo";
}
 

To subscribe as a user in the majordomo-for-real-dumbass= =20 list.
 
1.login as that user
 
2.Mail to majordomo on requesting to subscribe
 
Eg;
$ mail majordomo
subscribe majordomo-for-real-dumbass
.
 
3.For confirmation sed
Eg,
$ mail majordomo
auth dd352694=20 subscribe majordomo-for-real-dumbass siva@krishna.kovaiteam.com.
 
Now the email address eg;siva@krishna.kovaiteam.com is subscribed to= =20 majordomo-for-real-dumbass
 
 
Regards,
Sivabalakrishnan.G

 
 ------=_NextPart_000_0242_01C5D4DA.135454A0-- From majordomo-users-owner@greatcircle.com Wed Oct 19 06:01:17 2005 X-Original-To: majordomo-users@greatcircle.com Received: from web53308.mail.yahoo.com (web53308.mail.yahoo.com [206.190.49.98]) by mycroft.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with SMTP id D533C32C350 for ; Wed, 19 Oct 2005 06:01:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 39612 invoked by uid 60001); 19 Oct 2005 13:11:49 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=EVQcFjZvIL9bQzcOzSdMioGoUfLOCJaHIw67opoge5v4dnWaDrUOCX0Yu18vuLCimemvZBR1LR9hxee6DWMpVnorrzpE8LSIcVAuIuxzyTLzOnLJlbsqAZT9nh+/dnQOZVR3La6k91PX1Cjumtl/EzDuvfvYK/oX+uGmJ2QTsbA= ; Message-ID: <20051019131149.39610.qmail@web53308.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [208.208.19.151] by web53308.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Wed, 19 Oct 2005 06:11:48 PDT Date: Wed, 19 Oct 2005 06:11:48 -0700 (PDT) From: Steve Subject: Good linux email client for editing moderated posts? To: majordomo-users@greatcircle.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Archive-Number: 200510/14 X-Sequence-Number: 5206 Hi; I run a majordomo list where a persistent disruptive individual had to be banned. Rather then moderating every post I used the taboo_body tag to bounce emails with certain phrases in it. This has been very effective. However about once every two weeks a mistake happens creating the need to "approve" a post. For various reasons having the server owner implement a perl script as suggested in the docs is not going to happen. I need to use an email client that will let me insert "From:" and other headers to make "approved" posts look as they would have looked if they did not bounce. Can anyone recommend such a client? My only requirement is that the client should run on at least gnu/linux. If it has a low learning curve that would be a bonus, but not a requirement. Thanks much in advance for any info. Steve From majordomo-users-owner@greatcircle.com Wed Oct 19 06:07:15 2005 X-Original-To: majordomo-users@greatcircle.com Received: from web53301.mail.yahoo.com (web53301.mail.yahoo.com [206.190.49.91]) by mycroft.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with SMTP id 615AC32C588 for ; Wed, 19 Oct 2005 06:04:33 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 28315 invoked by uid 60001); 19 Oct 2005 13:15:32 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=DPMPRLB5jcuXF6NIP142tqXLZE/AC23sozSmNtLseTgs4Ecg4NuKm7rwvtj1TRV3XNoiRbnBWYuZQeIIyHU6k8pXV1Tdd2bV0gDPy9cFGl60jgqO59bYJxNpSBusHnt+sfBXYFpSIivKeHiC49yi3txWJwiu5BVOD50n6ZH83UI= ; Message-ID: <20051019131532.28313.qmail@web53301.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [208.208.19.151] by web53301.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Wed, 19 Oct 2005 06:15:31 PDT Date: Wed, 19 Oct 2005 06:15:31 -0700 (PDT) From: Steve Subject: Can fat posts be bounced back to the user? To: majordomo-users@greatcircle.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Archive-Number: 200510/15 X-Sequence-Number: 5207 Hi; I love the feature majordomo has for bouncing posts that are too big. However, I have some users who will just not learn, and I am getting tired of forwarding their bounced posts back to them. Is there a way I can set up majordomo to bounce posts that are too long back to the user instead of the listowner? Thanks Steve From majordomo-users-owner@greatcircle.com Wed Oct 19 06:29:04 2005 X-Original-To: majordomo-users@greatcircle.com Received: from skywalker.dahl-stamnes.net (38.80-203-206.nextgentel.com [80.203.206.38]) by mycroft.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id BB3D832C4C3 for ; Wed, 19 Oct 2005 06:27:02 -0700 (PDT) Received: from jedi.dahl-stamnes.net (jedi.dahl-stamnes.net [194.213.166.140]) by skywalker.dahl-stamnes.net (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id j9JDdFNd020715 for ; Wed, 19 Oct 2005 15:39:15 +0200 Received: from jedi.dahl-stamnes.net (jedi.dahl-stamnes.net [127.0.0.1]) by jedi.dahl-stamnes.net (8.13.4/8.13.4) with ESMTP id j9JDdFQp007988 for ; Wed, 19 Oct 2005 15:39:15 +0200 Received: from localhost (localhost [[UNIX: localhost]]) by jedi.dahl-stamnes.net (8.13.4/8.13.4/Submit) id j9JDdF7S007987 for majordomo-users@greatcircle.com; Wed, 19 Oct 2005 15:39:15 +0200 X-Authentication-Warning: jedi.dahl-stamnes.net: dahls set sender to mdomo.user@dahl-stamnes.net using -f From: =?utf-8?q?J=C3=B8rn_Dahl-Stamnes?= Reply-To: mdomo.user@dahl-stamnes.net To: majordomo-users@greatcircle.com Subject: Re: Majordomo for real dummies. Date: Wed, 19 Oct 2005 15:39:14 +0200 User-Agent: KMail/1.8 References: <024d01c5d4ab$fcac8cf0$340110ac@sigco> In-Reply-To: <024d01c5d4ab$fcac8cf0$340110ac@sigco> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200510191539.14989.mdomo.user@dahl-stamnes.net> X-Archive-Number: 200510/16 X-Sequence-Number: 5208 Thanks a lot. I have had a longer e-mail conversation with G. Robert Doty, = who=20 helped me a lot. Now majordomo works like a dream. On Wednesday 19 October 2005 14:52, sivabalakrishnan.G wrote: > Hello , > > You can create a list with name "majordomo-for-real-dumbass" by following > the steps given below . > > [text deleted] > > Regards, > Sivabalakrishnan.G > www.visolve.com > Mail to :support@visolve.com --=20 J=C3=B8rn Dahl-Stamnes e-mail: mdomo.user@dahl-stamnes.net homepage: http://www.dahl-stamnes.net/dahls/ From majordomo-users-owner@greatcircle.com Wed Oct 19 10:50:46 2005 X-Original-To: majordomo-users@greatcircle.com Received: from mail.sonny.com (unknown [70.58.223.141]) by mycroft.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4999A32C466 for ; Wed, 19 Oct 2005 10:50:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.1.78] (father.sonny.com [192.168.1.78]) by magnia.sonny.com (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 Patch 1 (built Aug 19 2002)) with ESMTP id <0IOM008B9C2PLW@magnia.sonny.com> for majordomo-users@greatcircle.com; Wed, 19 Oct 2005 12:47:13 -0500 (CDT) Date: Wed, 19 Oct 2005 12:50:37 -0500 From: Daniel Liston Subject: Re: Good linux email client for editing moderated posts? In-reply-to: <20051019131149.39610.qmail@web53308.mail.yahoo.com> To: Steve Cc: majordomo-users@greatcircle.com Message-id: <4356876D.9030107@sonny.org> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-Accept-Language: en-us, en User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.6-1.1.fc4 (X11/20050720) References: <20051019131149.39610.qmail@web53308.mail.yahoo.com> X-Archive-Number: 200510/17 X-Sequence-Number: 5209 The how-to I wrote for approving messages back in 2000 still applies today. Mostly, the instructions just explain this section of the list-owner-info file in a bit more detail. I was using the Netscape mail client when I wrote the doc, but mozilla and thunderbird under linux should still work. Honestly, unless you use this on a regular basis, you can forget it pretty easily. I have not tried this in evolution, but faintly recall this also working in pine, mutt, and elm too. Here we go; First and formost, you MUST use plain text to author your message. First and formost, you MUST use plain text to author your message. First and formost, you MUST use plain text to author your message. NO HTML!!! The approval piece is identical, whether it needs approved due to attachment, administrivia, or just a plain moderated list. Preparation; Mozilla based mail clients default to HTML message authoring, and automatically wrapping lines longer than 72 characters. These features need to be turned off. Use plain text and set line wrap to 255. Pine does plain text and has long enough line wrap by default. You also want to view all headers, so they are included in the body of your message when you hit forward or reply. Without this, you might also consider using ctrl-u to see the complete message with headers and any attachments, then ctrl-a to select all and ctrl-c to copy the selected text for pasting with ctrl-v into your approval message body. Pine has ctrl-h for viewing headers with the message body. Finally, an example (with comments) Assume the bounced message you received is between the lines of @@@: @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@ Received: (from mj1945@localhost) by example.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) id RAA21062; Thu, 14 Sep 2000 17:00:10 -0500 (CDT) Date: Thu, 14 Sep 2000 17:00:10 -0500 (CDT) From: owner-test@example.com Message-ID: <200009142200.RAA21062@example.com> To: list-approval@example.com Subject: BOUNCE test@example.com: global taboo header: /^content-type:\s.*multi/i >From owner-test Thu Sep 14 16:59:58 2000 Received: from netscape.com (h-205-217-228-106.netscape.com [205.217.228.106]) by example.com (8.8.8/8.8.3) with ESMTP id QAA21048 for ; Thu, 14 Sep 2000 16:59:51 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: <39C14A49.71900C77@netscape.com> Date: Thu, 14 Sep 2000 16:59:37 -0500 From: Dan Liston X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.75 [en] (WinNT; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: test@example.com Subject: attachments Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------74FF034AC5DFC92E73DFBCF9" This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------74FF034AC5DFC92E73DFBCF9 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Approved: test.password This is only a test to see if I can attach a file (smaller than 40k). Dan Forth try. Sending message to test@example.com now. Fifth try. Removed taboo setting from majordomo.cf. --------------74FF034AC5DFC92E73DFBCF9 Content-Type: application/x-zip-compressed; name="somefile.zip" Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64 Content-Disposition: inline; filename="somefile.zip" UEsDBBQAAgAIAGGqmSg9r8I9Ew4AACYyAAAIABUAQ09SRS5ORk9VVAkAA6XvBTml7wU5VXgE [Snipped more of these kind of lines.....] ICAgICAgICAgICAgICAgICAgICAgICAgICAgR2VuZXNpcyAtLy0gUE5UaVNPIC0vLSBCU2lT Tw== --------------74FF034AC5DFC92E73DFBCF9-- @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@ This is the text of the message body that you would send to your list; &&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&& Approved: test.password >From owner-test Thu Sep 14 16:59:58 2000 Message-ID: <39C14A49.71900C77@netscape.com> Date: Thu, 14 Sep 2000 16:59:37 -0500 From: Dan Liston X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.75 [en] (WinNT; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: test@example.com Subject: attachments Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------74FF034AC5DFC92E73DFBCF9" This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------74FF034AC5DFC92E73DFBCF9 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit This is only a test to see if I can attach a file (smaller than 40k). Dan Forth try. Sending message to test@example.com now. Fifth try. Removed taboo setting from majordomo.cf. --------------74FF034AC5DFC92E73DFBCF9 Content-Type: application/x-zip-compressed; name="somefile.zip" Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64 Content-Disposition: inline; filename="somefile.zip" UEsDBBQAAgAIAGGqmSg9r8I9Ew4AACYyAAAIABUAQ09SRS5ORk9VVAkAA6XvBTml7wU5VXgE [snipped all the compressed file information again] ICAgICAgICAgICAgICAgICAgICAgICAgICAgR2VuZXNpcyAtLy0gUE5UaVNPIC0vLSBCU2lT Tw== --------------74FF034AC5DFC92E73DFBCF9-- &&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&& Notice, when forwarding the message with the attachment back into the list address, I made the "Approved: test.password" the first line, purged all Received: lines, removed the blank line between boundry= and "This is a multi-", and I removed the old Approved: line deeper down in the message so that the first line following the first blank space was actually message content. Dan Liston Steve wrote: > Hi; > > I run a majordomo list where a persistent disruptive individual had to > be banned. > > Rather then moderating every post I used the taboo_body tag to bounce > emails with certain phrases in it. > > This has been very effective. However about once every two weeks a > mistake happens creating the need to "approve" a post. For various > reasons having the server owner implement a perl script as suggested in > the docs is not going to happen. > > I need to use an email client that will let me insert "From:" and other > headers to make "approved" posts look as they would have looked if they > did not bounce. > > Can anyone recommend such a client? My only requirement is that the > client should run on at least gnu/linux. If it has a low learning > curve that would be a bonus, but not a requirement. > > Thanks much in advance for any info. > > Steve From majordomo-users-owner@greatcircle.com Sun Oct 23 15:31:39 2005 X-Original-To: Majordomo-Users@greatcircle.com Received: from S1.cableone.net (s1.cableone.net [24.116.0.227]) by mycroft.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A90B032C42E for ; Sun, 23 Oct 2005 15:31:38 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.1.78] (unverified [24.116.59.31]) by S1.cableone.net (CableOne SMTP Service S1) with ESMTP id 35012495 for multiple; Sun, 23 Oct 2005 15:31:59 -0700 Message-ID: <431CA9CF.7030708@sonny.org> Date: Mon, 05 Sep 2005 15:25:51 -0500 From: Daniel Liston User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.7.6) Gecko/20050328 Fedora/1.7.6-1.2.5 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: robert.isaac@volvoclub.org.uk Cc: Majordomo-Users@greatcircle.com Subject: Re: Archiving References: <200509041952.j84JqGdx007994@nc3-0016.web.uk.netscalibur.com> In-Reply-To: <200509041952.j84JqGdx007994@nc3-0016.web.uk.netscalibur.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-IP-stats: Incoming Last 1, First 2, in=3, out=0, spam=0 X-External-IP: 24.116.59.31 X-Abuse-Info: Send abuse complaints to abuse@cableone.net X-Archive-Number: 200510/18 X-Sequence-Number: 5210 Hi Robert, Let me see if I can help clarify anything for you; Robert Isaac wrote: > I'm getting confused now, when sending to the list named 'test' the email > goes to test-list@... Correct? Not test@... No! Mail to test@your.domain goes to the test: alias which expands into test-outgoing, not test-list. You can remove test-list from your aliases file. > These are in /etc/aliases, is there anything missing or wrong: > > test-list: :include:/usr/local/majordomo/lists/test Get rid of test-list. Anyone that writes to this address bypasses majordomo processing completely. > owner-test: test-owner Anyone in the world that writes to owner-test (including sendmail errors) will be directed to test-owner. No syntactical or logical errors here. > test: "|/usr/local/majordomo/wrapper resend -l test test-outgoing,nobody" This is where you use majordomo's resend script to examine mail destined to test@your.domain, enforce rules and policies from the test.config file, and redirect successful output to the test-outoing alias and the nobody alias. Majordomo is pretty useless without this one. > test-owner: robert.isaac@volvoclub.org.uk, This can be written do directly from the world, or be redirected from your owner-test alias. In turn, this alias redirects mail to a real mailbox and the comma on the end prevents sendmail from advertising the alias expansion in the message headers. This line is OK too. > test-request: "|/usr/local/majordomo/wrapper majordomo -l test" This alias (or the -request part of it) is required by RFC2142 for every list your domain operates. The redirection portion of it can be a mailbox, or a program, as above. This program acts automatically to add/remove a user from your "test" list (with the proper message body content of course). > test-approval: robert.isaac@volvoclub.org.uk This alias is used for closed or moderated lists. This is also the default address majordomo uses to send notifications unless otherwise defined in your test.config file. Any human or program can send mail to this alias and it will be redirected to the mailbox you have defined. > test-outgoing: > :include:/usr/local/majordomo/lists/test,test-archiver,test-digestify Here is where life gets interesting. Mail can be sent to this alias by any user or program on the internet, as well as redirected to by the test list alias itself. Messages arriving at this alias are redistributed to each address (one per line) of the included file called test, and copies of the message are also redirected to the test-archiver and test-digestify aliases. Sendmail users can circumvent some abuse of this address by setting up a blocking mechanism in their virtusertable. > test-archiver: "|/usr/local/majordomo/wrapper archive2.pl -f > /usr/local/majordomo/archives/test/test -a -M" This is where the archiving process actually takes place. This alias has dependencies on $filedir and $filedir_suffix settings in your majordomo.cf file. The directory that stores the archive must already exist AND have the proper ownership and permissions for archive2.pl to use it. > test-digestify: "|/usr/local/majordomo/wrapper digest -r -C -l test-digest > test-digest-outgoing" This alias calls the digest program, which has a dependency on $digest_work_dir in your majordomo.cf file, it's existance, ownership, and permissions, and the variables in your test.config that start with the word digest_*. IF the conditions from your test.config file are met, the digest is created from the messages collected in the $digest_work_dir/ and distributed to your test-digest-outgoing alias. > owner-test-digest: test-owner This alias has the same properties as the owner-test alias. > test-digest: test, This alias catches any mail accidently sent directly to the digest and redirects it to the primary list name for proper functionality. > test-digest-owner: test-owner Same functionality and properties as test-owner. > test-digest-request: "|/usr/local/majordomo/wrapper majordomo -l > test-digest" Allows users to sub/unsub from your digest, similar to test-request. > test-digest-approval: test-approval Same as test-approval alias. > test-digest-outgoing: > :include:/usr/local/majordomo/lists/test-digest,nobody" This alias is only used if/when conditions defined in test.config are met regarding byte, lines, or age of the oldest message in the $digest_work_dir/ > > Thanks. > ___________________________________________________ > Robert Isaac > Director and Web Administrator > Volvo Owners Club > > www.volvoclub.org.uk > > Please include all previous text with reply > All messages are scanned with an antivirus scanner. > > -----Original Message----- > From: majordomo-users-owner@greatcircle.com > [mailto:majordomo-users-owner@greatcircle.com] On Behalf Of Ed Kasky > Sent: 04 September 2005 20:20 > To: robert.isaac@volvoclub.org.uk > Cc: Majordomo-Users@greatcircle.com > Subject: Re: Archiving > > I just remembered something but deleted your last message with the > aliases:-( > > Does your alias "test" have the alias to "test-archive"? > > Notice in the sample below that a message to test goes to test-list which > includes the list itself, the test-archive alias and the test-digestify > alias: > > test: "|/usr/local/majordomo/demime '== /usr/local/majordomo/wrapper resend > -l test test-list,nobody'" > test-list: :include:/usr/local/majordomo/lists/test, test-archive, > test-digestify > test-archive: "|/usr/local/majordomo/wrapper archive -f > /usr/local/majordomo/archives/test/test -a -M" > test-digestify: "|/usr/local/majordomo/digest -r -C -l test-digest > test-digest-outgoing" > test-digest: test > test-digest-outgoing: :include:/usr/local/majordomo/lists/test-digest > > At 10:35 AM Sunday, 9/4/2005, you wrote -=> > >>The message to test-list@volvoclub.org.uk comes back to me OK, I'm the >>only one on the test list. There are no irregular entries in maillog, >>but the message is not showing in Majordomo Log. >> >>The HOW-TO by Dan Liston stated that the dirs should be 755. > > > I figured as much ;-) > > >>-----Original Message----- >>From: majordomo-users-owner@greatcircle.com >>[mailto:majordomo-users-owner@greatcircle.com] On Behalf Of Ed Kasky >>Sent: 04 September 2005 18:27 >>To: robert.isaac@volvoclub.org.uk >>Cc: Majordomo-Users@greatcircle.com >>Subject: Re: Archiving >> >>At 10:06 AM Sunday, 9/4/2005, Robert Isaac wrote -=> >> >>>Thanks for this, but messages are still not getting archived. >>>Firstly, I >> >>the first place to look is in the logs. Are you getting any errors >>either in the maillog or in the majordomo log? >> >>What happens when you send a message to test? >> >>Does the message go to the test list at all?? >> >> >>>/usr/local/majordomo/archives/test-digest (755) >> >>Why do you have this one?^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ Are you archiving the digests >>as well? >> >> >>>/usr/local/majordomo/digests/test-digest (755) >>>/usr/local/majordomo/lists (755) /usr/local/majordomo/lists/test (file: >>>644) /usr/local/majordomo/lists/test.config (file: 660) >> >>I can't remember why but I have my archives and digest folders set to 775. > > > . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . > Randomly Generated Quote (46 of 1003): > "Determine never to be idle... It is wonderful how much may be done > if we are always doing." --Thomas Jefferson > > From majordomo-users-owner@greatcircle.com Sun Oct 23 15:42:57 2005 X-Original-To: Majordomo-Users@greatcircle.com Received: from wrenkasky.com (esson.net [216.102.129.43]) by mycroft.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 50DE132C449 for ; Sun, 23 Oct 2005 15:42:56 -0700 (PDT) Received: from EDS.esson.net (eds.wrenkasky.com [10.10.10.11]) (authenticated bits=0) by wrenkasky.com (8.13.4/8.13.4) with ESMTP id j9NMgnWq006440 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-SHA bits=128 verify=NOT); Sun, 23 Oct 2005 15:42:54 -0700 Message-Id: <6.0.0.22.2.20051023154112.01b9aca8@mail.esson.net> X-Sender: ed@mail.esson.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 6.0.0.22 Date: Sun, 23 Oct 2005 15:42:49 -0700 To: Majordomo-Users@greatcircle.com From: Ed Kasky Subject: Re: Archiving Cc: Majordomo-Users@greatcircle.com In-Reply-To: <431CA9CF.7030708@sonny.org> References: <200509041952.j84JqGdx007994@nc3-0016.web.uk.netscalibur.com> <431CA9CF.7030708@sonny.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Received-SPF: pass (wrenkasky.com: 10.10.10.11 is authenticated by a trusted mechanism) X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV version 0.87, clamav-milter version 0.87 on yoda2.wrenkasky.com X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Archive-Number: 200510/19 X-Sequence-Number: 5211 And this got delivered on Sunday, October 23? Is that a grey hole or a shallow black one? At 01:25 PM Monday, 9/5/2005, Daniel Liston wrote -=> >Hi Robert, > >Let me see if I can help clarify anything for you; . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Randomly Generated Quote (378 of 1008): An apple every eight hours will keep three doctors away. From majordomo-users-owner@greatcircle.com Sun Oct 23 15:53:55 2005 X-Original-To: Majordomo-Users@greatcircle.com Received: from S2.cableone.net (s2.cableone.net [24.116.0.228]) by mycroft.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id BECB532C455 for ; Sun, 23 Oct 2005 15:53:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.1.78] (unverified [24.116.59.31]) by S2.cableone.net (CableOne SMTP Service S2) with ESMTP id 33947045 for ; Sun, 23 Oct 2005 15:57:42 -0700 Message-ID: <435C147E.7070100@sonny.org> Date: Sun, 23 Oct 2005 17:53:50 -0500 From: Daniel Liston User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.7.6) Gecko/20050328 Fedora/1.7.6-1.2.5 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Majordomo-Users@greatcircle.com Subject: Re: Archiving References: <200509041952.j84JqGdx007994@nc3-0016.web.uk.netscalibur.com> <431CA9CF.7030708@sonny.org> <6.0.0.22.2.20051023154112.01b9aca8@mail.esson.net> In-Reply-To: <6.0.0.22.2.20051023154112.01b9aca8@mail.esson.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-IP-stats: No info recorded yet X-External-IP: 24.116.59.31 X-Abuse-Info: Send abuse complaints to abuse@cableone.net X-Archive-Number: 200510/20 X-Sequence-Number: 5212 Very old, and very embarrassing, but thought it might still be useful to someone out there. It was sitting in the "unsent messages" folder of a machine I hardly ever use.... :( Dan Liston Ed Kasky wrote: > And this got delivered on Sunday, October 23? Is that a grey hole or a > shallow black one? > > At 01:25 PM Monday, 9/5/2005, Daniel Liston wrote -=> > >> Hi Robert, >> >> Let me see if I can help clarify anything for you; > > > . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . > Randomly Generated Quote (378 of 1008): > An apple every eight hours will keep three doctors away. > From majordomo-users-owner@greatcircle.com Tue Oct 25 16:45:42 2005 X-Original-To: majordomo-users@greatcircle.com Received: from ispwest-email1.mdeinc.com (mail.ispwest.com [216.52.245.18]) by mycroft.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3EC2B32C36F for ; Tue, 25 Oct 2005 16:45:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [4.249.36.157] (dialup-4.249.36.157.Dial1.Washington2.Level3.net [4.249.36.157]) by ispwest-email1.mdeinc.com (Vircom SMTPRS 4.2.425.4) with ESMTP id for ; Tue, 25 Oct 2005 16:45:32 -0700 X-Modus-ReverseDNS: OK X-Modus-BlackList: 4.249.36.157=OK;beforewisdom@yahoo.com=OK X-Modus-RBL: 4.249.36.157=Excluded X-Modus-Trusted: 4.249.36.157=NO Message-ID: <435EC4C3.9030202@yahoo.com> Date: Tue, 25 Oct 2005 19:50:27 -0400 From: Steve Organization: MYOB User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.7.3) Gecko/20041007 Debian/1.7.3-5 X-Accept-Language: en-us MIME-Version: 1.0 To: majordomo-users@greatcircle.com Subject: Problems closeing subscriptions References: <20051019131149.39610.qmail@web53308.mail.yahoo.com> <4356876D.9030107@sonny.org> In-Reply-To: <4356876D.9030107@sonny.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Archive-Number: 200510/21 X-Sequence-Number: 5213 Hi; I'm moderate a majordomo list running on version 1.9.4 I recently decided to make subscriptions by approval only. It works, but every now and then someone subscribes without the approval process kicking in. I have this line set thusly in my config: subscribe_policy=closed+confirm Is there anything else I need to do? Does anyone know anything about this issue? Thanks in advance for any information! Steve From majordomo-users-owner@greatcircle.com Thu Oct 27 02:52:30 2005 X-Original-To: majordomo-users@greatcircle.com Received: from ispwest-email1.mdeinc.com (mail1.ispwest.com [216.52.245.18]) by mycroft.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C047732C409 for ; Thu, 27 Oct 2005 02:52:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [4.249.21.241] (dialup-4.249.21.241.Dial1.Washington2.Level3.net [4.249.21.241]) by ispwest-email1.mdeinc.com (Vircom SMTPRS 4.2.425.9) with ESMTP id for ; Thu, 27 Oct 2005 02:54:25 -0700 X-Modus-ReverseDNS: OK X-Modus-BlackList: 4.249.21.241=OK;beforewisdom@yahoo.com=OK X-Modus-RBL: 4.249.21.241=Excluded X-Modus-Trusted: 4.249.21.241=NO Message-ID: <4360A4F7.8070609@yahoo.com> Date: Thu, 27 Oct 2005 05:59:19 -0400 From: Steve Organization: MYOB User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.7.3) Gecko/20041007 Debian/1.7.3-5 X-Accept-Language: en-us MIME-Version: 1.0 To: majordomo-users@greatcircle.com Subject: Majordomo 1.9.4: Changing subscription messages Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Archive-Number: 200510/22 X-Sequence-Number: 5214 Hi; My apologies if you are seeing this email twice( I didn't see it on the list ). I recently changed the configuration of my list ( majordomo 1.9.4 ) to make subscriptions by approval only. Is it possible for me to change the content of the message sent to the potential subscriber telling him/her that their subscription request will be reviewed? Thanks much in advance for any information. Steve From majordomo-users-owner@greatcircle.com Mon Oct 31 23:54:09 2005 X-Original-To: majordomo-users@greatcircle.com Received: from skywalker.dahl-stamnes.net (38.80-203-206.nextgentel.com [80.203.206.38]) by mycroft.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E9DC732C190 for ; Mon, 31 Oct 2005 23:54:04 -0800 (PST) Received: from jedi.dahl-stamnes.net (jedi.dahl-stamnes.net [194.213.166.140]) by skywalker.dahl-stamnes.net (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id jA17s2rD005679 for ; Tue, 1 Nov 2005 08:54:02 +0100 Received: from jedi.dahl-stamnes.net (jedi.dahl-stamnes.net [127.0.0.1]) by jedi.dahl-stamnes.net (8.13.4/8.13.4) with ESMTP id jA17s1sk018697 for ; Tue, 1 Nov 2005 08:54:01 +0100 Received: from localhost (localhost [[UNIX: localhost]]) by jedi.dahl-stamnes.net (8.13.4/8.13.4/Submit) id jA17s0jK018696 for majordomo-users@greatcircle.com; Tue, 1 Nov 2005 08:54:01 +0100 X-Authentication-Warning: jedi.dahl-stamnes.net: dahls set sender to mdomo.user@dahl-stamnes.net using -f From: =?iso-8859-1?q?J=F8rn_Dahl-Stamnes?= Reply-To: mdomo.user@dahl-stamnes.net To: majordomo-users@greatcircle.com Subject: Majordomo and SPAM Date: Tue, 1 Nov 2005 08:54:00 +0100 User-Agent: KMail/1.8 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200511010854.00975.mdomo.user@dahl-stamnes.net> X-Archive-Number: 200510/23 X-Sequence-Number: 5215 As the owner of the majordomo server, I have begin to receive spam sendt to= =20 majordomo@. The majordomo.alias file looks like this: ------------------------- local_owner: majordomo: "|/usr/local/majordomo/wrapper majordomo" majordomo-owner: local_owner, owner-majordomo: local_owner foobar: "|/usr/local/majordomo/wrapper resend -l foobar=20=20 foobar-list" foobar-list: :include:/usr/local/majordomo/Lists/foobar owner-foobar: local_owner, foobar-owner: local_owner foobar-approval: local_owner foobar-request: "|/usr/local/majordomo/wrapper majordomo -l foobar" ------------------------- Can I change the "majordomo: ..." to something else, like: generaldomo: "|/usr/local/majordomo/wrapper majordomo" generaldomo-owner: local_owner, owner-generaldomo: local_owner I cannot test this IRL, since I do not whish to make problems for the lists= on=20 the server. If I change this, do I have to do other modifications to the=20 alias file? --=20 J=F8rn Dahl-Stamnes e-mail: mdomo.user@dahl-stamnes.net homepage: http://www.dahl-stamnes.net/dahls/