From majordomo-users-owner@greatcircle.com Thu Nov 17 08:29:04 2005 X-Original-To: Majordomo-Users@greatcircle.com Received: from nc3-0016.web.uk.netscalibur.com (nc3-0016.web.uk.netscalibur.com [195.157.100.95]) by mycroft.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E113F32C19A for ; Thu, 17 Nov 2005 08:29:01 -0800 (PST) Received: from DESKTOP (volvodsl.claranet.co.uk [80.168.254.234]) by nc3-0016.web.uk.netscalibur.com (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id jAHHSJZf007041 for ; Thu, 17 Nov 2005 17:28:29 GMT Message-Id: <200511171728.jAHHSJZf007041@nc3-0016.web.uk.netscalibur.com> Reply-To: From: "Robert Isaac" To: Subject: Bounce error Date: Thu, 17 Nov 2005 16:28:40 -0000 Organization: Volvo Owners Club MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook, Build 11.0.6353 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2670 Thread-Index: AcXrk/V/I6MEpM7CQ7qbtnxOK6jViQ== X-Archive-Number: 200511/1 X-Sequence-Number: 5216 Got this error on an email I sent to one of our lists and was bounced back: Admin request of type /\bcancel\b/i at line 5 Can anyone explain this please? Majordomo 1.94.5 Sendmail 8.13.1 O/S RHESL4 Apache 2.0.52 Perl 5.8.5 Thanks. Bob ___________________________________________________ Robert Isaac Director and Web Administrator Volvo Owners Club www.volvoclub.org.uk Please include all previous text with reply All messages are scanned with an antivirus scanner. From majordomo-users-owner@greatcircle.com Thu Nov 17 08:41:01 2005 X-Original-To: Majordomo-Users@greatcircle.com Received: from mail.bcpl.net (mail.bcpl.net [204.255.212.10]) by mycroft.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E9CD532C2FD for ; Thu, 17 Nov 2005 08:38:49 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail.bcpl.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.bcpl.net (8.13.0/8.13.0) with ESMTP id jAHGcmAL004595; Thu, 17 Nov 2005 11:38:48 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (fold@localhost) by mail.bcpl.net (8.13.0/8.13.0/Submit) with ESMTP id jAHGcl4d004590; Thu, 17 Nov 2005 11:38:47 -0500 (EST) X-Authentication-Warning: mail.bcpl.net: fold owned process doing -bs Date: Thu, 17 Nov 2005 11:38:47 -0500 (EST) From: Chip Old X-X-Sender: fold@mail To: Robert Isaac Cc: Majordomo-Users@greatcircle.com Subject: Re: Bounce error In-Reply-To: <200511171728.jAHHSJZf007041@nc3-0016.web.uk.netscalibur.com> Message-ID: References: <200511171728.jAHHSJZf007041@nc3-0016.web.uk.netscalibur.com> X-Organization: BCPL.NET Internet Services X-Complaints-To: abuse@bcpl.net MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Archive-Number: 200511/2 X-Sequence-Number: 5217 On Thu, 17 Nov 2005 16:28 -0000, Robert Isaac wrote: > Got this error on an email I sent to one of our lists and was bounced back: > > Admin request of type /\bcancel\b/i at line 5 > > Can anyone explain this please? That is a result of the following line in your list.config: administrivia = yes Change that to "no" if you don't want administrivia checks. If you do want them, you'll have to examine bounced messages and forward them to the list if appropriate. -- Chip Old (Francis E. 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------=_NextPart_000_0457_01C5EED1.99D55E00-- From majordomo-users-owner@greatcircle.com Mon Nov 21 23:37:51 2005 X-Original-To: majordomo-users@greatcircle.com Received: from S2.cableone.net (s2.cableone.net [24.116.0.228]) by mycroft.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C510832C18D for ; Mon, 21 Nov 2005 23:37:47 -0800 (PST) Received: from sonny.org (unverified [69.92.133.208]) by S2.cableone.net (CableOne SMTP Service S2) with ESMTP id 36865938 for ; Tue, 22 Nov 2005 00:50:09 -0700 Message-ID: <4382CAC9.9030802@sonny.org> Date: Tue, 22 Nov 2005 01:37:45 -0600 From: Daniel Liston User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.4) Gecko/20030624 Netscape/7.1 (ax) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: majordomo-users@greatcircle.com Subject: Re: More Questions about Majordomo References: <045a01c5ee96$edc78c30$6402a8c0@chudabut> In-Reply-To: <045a01c5ee96$edc78c30$6402a8c0@chudabut> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-NotAscii: charset=us-ascii; X-IP-stats: No info recorded yet X-External-IP: 69.92.133.208 X-Abuse-Info: Send abuse complaints to abuse@cableone.net X-Archive-Number: 200511/4 X-Sequence-Number: 5219 EasyHorpak wrote: > > 1.I want to create my mailing and setup permission for only admin can > send mail to the list. This first one is easy. Just create a moderated list. You can also set up a restrict_post file that only contains the admin's email address. > 2.I want to show the email of member's list at TO : (To : member 's > email) instead of my mailing list (To: my mailing list@mydomain.com > ). This means rewriting majordomo, and creating a separate message for every recipient instead of one message to all recipients. This has actually been asked many times. Sorry, it is not efficient SMTP to repeat the same message many times. Not to mention all the wasted CPU cycles and fragmenting of disk space. Dan Liston From majordomo-users-owner@greatcircle.com Tue Nov 22 11:45:44 2005 X-Original-To: majordomo-users@greatcircle.com Received: from ns1.bnetmd.net (ns1.bnetmd.net [216.133.66.171]) by mycroft.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5BCD432C323 for ; Tue, 22 Nov 2005 11:45:43 -0800 (PST) Received: from glenn (pcp404417pcs.mntcrm01.md.comcast.net [68.34.37.204]) by ns1.bnetmd.net (8.13.1/8.13.1) with SMTP id jAMJgPhU022290 for ; Tue, 22 Nov 2005 14:42:33 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from techlist@bnetmd.net) Message-ID: <005101c5ef9d$5f282ea0$6501a8c0@bnetmd.net> Reply-To: "Glenn McCalley" From: "Glenn McCalley" To: References: <20051122112743.C1D7832C3F4@mycroft.greatcircle.com> Subject: Re: The daily digest for Majordomo-Users V6 #563 Date: Tue, 22 Nov 2005 14:45:57 -0500 Organization: Business.Net LLC MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1437 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1441 X-Archive-Number: 200511/5 X-Sequence-Number: 5220 > > 2.I want to show the email of member's list at TO : (To : member 's > > email) instead of my mailing list (To: my mailing list@mydomain.com > > ). > > This means rewriting majordomo, and creating a separate message for > every recipient instead of one message to all recipients. This has > actually been asked many times. Sorry, it is not efficient SMTP to > repeat the same message many times. Not to mention all the wasted > CPU cycles and fragmenting of disk space. > > Dan Liston > > OK, so how do you do stuff like: "You are subscribed to this list as so-and-so@whatever.com. To unsubscribe, click here etc., etc." I know I've had angry people "stop sending me email" -- and what's happening is they're getting the email from a former employee forwarded to them and have no idea themselves why they're "on my list". Personally, I'd give up the cycles to get that. Plus I think it's only a matter of time before some legislature mandates this anyway. Glenn. From majordomo-users-owner@greatcircle.com Tue Nov 22 13:00:35 2005 X-Original-To: majordomo-users@greatcircle.com Received: from S3.cableone.net (s3.cableone.net [24.116.0.229]) by mycroft.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id ED9A532C40F for ; Tue, 22 Nov 2005 12:59:44 -0800 (PST) Received: from sonny.org (unverified [69.92.133.208]) by S3.cableone.net (CableOne SMTP Service S3) with ESMTP id 37911355 for ; Tue, 22 Nov 2005 14:14:10 -0700 Message-ID: <438386BE.8010404@sonny.org> Date: Tue, 22 Nov 2005 14:59:42 -0600 From: Daniel Liston User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.4) Gecko/20030624 Netscape/7.1 (ax) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: majordomo-users@greatcircle.com Subject: Re: More Questions about Majordomo References: <20051122112743.C1D7832C3F4@mycroft.greatcircle.com> <005101c5ef9d$5f282ea0$6501a8c0@bnetmd.net> In-Reply-To: <005101c5ef9d$5f282ea0$6501a8c0@bnetmd.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-NotAscii: charset=us-ascii; X-IP-stats: No info recorded yet X-External-IP: 69.92.133.208 X-Abuse-Info: Send abuse complaints to abuse@cableone.net X-Archive-Number: 200511/6 X-Sequence-Number: 5221 Glenn wrote: >>>2.I want to show the email of member's list at TO : (To : member 's >>>email) instead of my mailing list (To: my mailing list@mydomain.com >>>). >> >>This means rewriting majordomo, and creating a separate message for >>every recipient instead of one message to all recipients. This has >>actually been asked many times. Sorry, it is not efficient SMTP to >>repeat the same message many times. Not to mention all the wasted >>CPU cycles and fragmenting of disk space. >> > > OK, so how do you do stuff like: > "You are subscribed to this list as so-and-so@whatever.com. > To unsubscribe, click here > etc., etc." Majordomo does not have this capability out of the box. You either put another piece of software in the process between majordomo and the MTA, or make modifications in majordomo or the MTA, to add the personalized footer. This does not help change the TO: field however. > > I know I've had angry people "stop sending me email" -- and what's happening > is they're getting the email from a former employee forwarded to them and > have no idea themselves why they're "on my list". This is a primary reason for a double opt-in philosophy. Nobody should be able to act on behalf of another without some sort of validation/verification that they have the right to do so. This includes adding anyone but yourself to a mailing list. There are exceptions with work mandated subscriptions where your employer can guarantee the email address added to the list is delivered to an employee, even if not the correct one. At least this does not impact anyone outside your local domain. I digress. If they do not remember signing up/subscribing to the list, they are not likely to know how to unsubscribe from it. In this case, it is easier to just remove them manually, regardless of how poorly this scales. To provide "true support", you might have to contact the user and ask them to forward the original offending email with full headers for you to evaluate to determine who really needs to be removed from your list. You might also send a monthly (read periodic) reminder to your subscribers with a custom message/tool that actually uses the subscribed address in the To: field and the message body, as well as the name of the list they are subscribed to. Periodic list cleaning should be every list owner's responsibility anyway. > > Personally, I'd give up the cycles to get that. Plus I think it's only a > matter of time before some legislature mandates this anyway. > If you want to create such a tool as a user contributed utility, the logic should be quite straight forward. 1. Wordsmith common message body content, perhaps a template with at least 2 variables. $A=listname=filename $B=emailaddress It is best to keep this template generic enough to be used for any mailing list. 2. Plan for $A to be an argument of calling the tool. This tool would probably live in the /usr/(lib|local)/majordomo directory. 3. The tool will basically be a loop that until EOF will; Read a line from $A Parse $B from that line Populate template with $A and $B Call sendmail with arguments of $template and $B 4. Extra credit: Make the template static content within the tool. Within the template email include a URL giving users the ability to opt-out of their subscription. This can be mailto: or http:. Periodically verify the URL works. Legislators need to stop making laws about things they have little knowledge of. Or at least be held responsibe for the consequences they create. I do not appreciate anyone mandating "how" I read my mail, or how I sort/file it, or how/why I reject it, or how long I must archive it once I accept it. These are all mostly possible by having the list address in the TO: field, and are not options (or are more difficult) having my own address in the To: field. Dan Liston From majordomo-users-owner@greatcircle.com Thu Nov 24 08:31:07 2005 X-Original-To: Majordomo-Users@greatcircle.com Received: from nc3-0016.web.uk.netscalibur.com (nc3-0016.web.uk.netscalibur.com [195.157.100.95]) by mycroft.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id EE7A732C5C2 for ; Thu, 24 Nov 2005 08:30:43 -0800 (PST) Received: from DESKTOP (volvodsl.claranet.co.uk [80.168.254.234]) by nc3-0016.web.uk.netscalibur.com (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id jAOGTp5V014308 for ; Thu, 24 Nov 2005 16:29:55 GMT Reply-To: From: "Robert Isaac" To: Subject: Possible spam attempt Date: Thu, 24 Nov 2005 16:30:33 -0000 Organization: Volvo Owners Club Message-ID: <005e01c5f114$64fba320$0300a8c0@DESKTOP> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2670 Thread-Index: AcXxFA0mGll6ANa/QNehaYvuSVPgbw== X-Archive-Number: 200511/7 X-Sequence-Number: 5222 The sendmail part of our server logwatch file has entries like this: jANGCUU4024636: clone: owner=directors-owner: 1 Time(s) Is this someone trying to use the mailing lists as spam. The list referred to is unpublished anywhere and only 7 people use it. Bob ___________________________________________________ Robert Isaac Director and Web Administrator Volvo Owners Club www.volvoclub.org.uk Please include all previous text with reply All messages are scanned with an antivirus scanner. From majordomo-users-owner@greatcircle.com Thu Nov 24 13:58:40 2005 X-Original-To: majordomo-users@greatcircle.com Received: from srv75.flexwebhosting.nl (unknown [82.94.254.28]) by mycroft.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B12BD32C602 for ; Thu, 24 Nov 2005 13:58:39 -0800 (PST) X-ClientAddr: 82.217.119.134 Received: from laptop (82-217-119-134.cable.quicknet.nl [82.217.119.134]) (authenticated bits=0) by srv75.flexwebhosting.nl (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id jAOLwaZT013202 for ; Thu, 24 Nov 2005 22:58:38 +0100 Message-ID: <011001c5f142$2c835ff0$6501a8c0@laptop> From: "W. van Eis" To: Subject: Only Subscribers Date: Thu, 24 Nov 2005 22:58:15 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 X-Flexwebhosting-MailScanner-Information: Please contact the ISP for more information X-Flexwebhosting-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-MailScanner-From: wop@vaneis.nl X-Archive-Number: 200511/8 X-Sequence-Number: 5223 Hi, I'm new to majordomo and figuring out some settings. My first question is how to set my list that only subscribers can post to the list. Now everyone can post and that is not what we want. Could someone help me out? Regards, Wop From majordomo-users-owner@greatcircle.com Thu Nov 24 16:13:31 2005 X-Original-To: majordomo-users@greatcircle.com Received: from mail.bcpl.net (mail.bcpl.net [204.255.212.10]) by mycroft.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8599632C1FE for ; Thu, 24 Nov 2005 16:13:30 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail.bcpl.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.bcpl.net (8.13.0/8.13.0) with ESMTP id jAP0DSLB002951 for ; Thu, 24 Nov 2005 19:13:29 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (fold@localhost) by mail.bcpl.net (8.13.0/8.13.0/Submit) with ESMTP id jAP0DO2o002943 for ; Thu, 24 Nov 2005 19:13:28 -0500 (EST) X-Authentication-Warning: mail.bcpl.net: fold owned process doing -bs Date: Thu, 24 Nov 2005 19:13:24 -0500 (EST) From: Chip Old X-X-Sender: fold@mail To: MAJORDOMO-USERS Subject: Re: Only Subscribers In-Reply-To: <011001c5f142$2c835ff0$6501a8c0@laptop> Message-ID: References: <011001c5f142$2c835ff0$6501a8c0@laptop> X-Organization: BCPL.NET Internet Services X-Complaints-To: abuse@bcpl.net MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Archive-Number: 200511/9 X-Sequence-Number: 5224 On Thu, 24 Nov 2005 22:58 +0100, W. van Eis wrote: > My first question is how to set my list that only subscribers can post > to the list. Now everyone can post and that is not what we want. Could > someone help me out? Use restrict_post in your list.config. For example, if the list name is "mylist", do this: restrict_post = mylist This allows posting ony from e-mail addresses included in mylist. -- Chip Old (Francis E. Old) E-Mail: fold@bcpl.net BCPL Network Administrator Phone: 410-887-6180 BCPL.NET Internet Services Manager FAX: 410-887-2091 320 York Road Towson, MD 21204-5179 US From majordomo-users-owner@greatcircle.com Fri Nov 25 01:24:49 2005 X-Original-To: majordomo-users@greatcircle.com Received: from srv75.flexwebhosting.nl (unknown [82.94.254.28]) by mycroft.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E214532C671 for ; Fri, 25 Nov 2005 01:24:11 -0800 (PST) X-ClientAddr: 82.217.119.134 Received: from laptop (82-217-119-134.cable.quicknet.nl [82.217.119.134]) (authenticated bits=0) by srv75.flexwebhosting.nl (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id jAP9P1ZT000547; Fri, 25 Nov 2005 10:25:03 +0100 Message-ID: <014c01c5f1a2$114aadf0$6501a8c0@laptop> From: "W. van Eis" To: "MAJORDOMO-USERS" References: <011001c5f142$2c835ff0$6501a8c0@laptop> Subject: Re: Only Subscribers Date: Fri, 25 Nov 2005 10:24:41 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=response Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 X-Flexwebhosting-MailScanner-Information: Please contact the ISP for more information X-Flexwebhosting-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-MailScanner-From: wop@vaneis.nl X-Archive-Number: 200511/10 X-Sequence-Number: 5225 > Use restrict_post in your list.config. For example, if the list name is > "mylist", do this: > > restrict_post = mylist > Thankz, Seems to work! my next question: i have an mailadress added to the digest, but when i try to post a message wiht that adress, i get a NON member bounce while de adress is in a digist list. And what are acceptable digest setting? I 've been testing mauny mails, but didn't recieved any digest. Thankz in advance Wop From majordomo-users-owner@greatcircle.com Sun Nov 27 08:54:27 2005 X-Original-To: majordomo-users@greatcircle.com Received: from srv75.flexwebhosting.nl (unknown [82.94.254.28]) by mycroft.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id ECAD232C22C for ; Sun, 27 Nov 2005 08:53:09 -0800 (PST) X-ClientAddr: 82.217.119.134 Received: from laptop (82-217-119-134.cable.quicknet.nl [82.217.119.134]) (authenticated bits=0) by srv75.flexwebhosting.nl (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id jARGqkZT001869; Sun, 27 Nov 2005 17:52:51 +0100 Message-ID: <027e01c5f372$fca59ae0$6501a8c0@laptop> From: "W. van Eis" To: , References: <200511251304.jAPD40nd004572@atlantis.emacolet.com> Subject: Re: Only Subscribers Date: Sun, 27 Nov 2005 17:52:40 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 X-Flexwebhosting-MailScanner-Information: Please contact the ISP for more information X-Flexwebhosting-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-MailScanner-From: wop@vaneis.nl X-Archive-Number: 200511/11 X-Sequence-Number: 5226 > restrict_post = lists:list_digest > > or whatever you called the list.. If you want your digest members to be > able > to post to the list BOTH lists need to be in the config. > > ---- > Peter P. Benac, CCNA Do digest members have to post to a different mail adres? And do any one know where i can find some suitable digetssettings? Wop From majordomo-users-owner@greatcircle.com Sun Nov 27 09:18:31 2005 X-Original-To: majordomo-users@greatcircle.com Received: from mail.sonny.com (unknown [70.58.223.141]) by mycroft.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 98EB432C167 for ; Sun, 27 Nov 2005 09:18:30 -0800 (PST) Received: from [192.168.1.78] (father.sonny.com [192.168.1.78]) by magnia.sonny.com (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 Patch 1 (built Aug 19 2002)) with ESMTPA id <0IQM00F03IQ81O@magnia.sonny.com> for majordomo-users@greatcircle.com; Sun, 27 Nov 2005 11:18:08 -0600 (CST) Date: Sun, 27 Nov 2005 11:18:27 -0600 From: Daniel Liston Subject: Re: Only Subscribers In-reply-to: <027e01c5f372$fca59ae0$6501a8c0@laptop> To: "W. van Eis" Cc: ppbenac@emacolet.com, majordomo-users@greatcircle.com Message-id: <4389EA63.9070404@sonny.org> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-Accept-Language: en-us, en User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.11) Gecko/20050728 References: <200511251304.jAPD40nd004572@atlantis.emacolet.com> <027e01c5f372$fca59ae0$6501a8c0@laptop> X-Archive-Number: 200511/12 X-Sequence-Number: 5227 If users are subscribed to the digest only, and you want to allow them to post to your list, add the name of the digest to your restrict_post setting like such; restrict_post = mylist mylist-digest This assumes the name of your list is mylist, your digest is called mylist-digest, and your config files for mylist is mylist.conf Dan Liston W. van Eis wrote: > > >> restrict_post = lists:list_digest >> >> or whatever you called the list.. If you want your digest members to >> be able >> to post to the list BOTH lists need to be in the config. >> >> ---- >> Peter P. Benac, CCNA > > > > Do digest members have to post to a different mail adres? > And do any one know where i can find some suitable digetssettings? > > Wop > From majordomo-users-owner@greatcircle.com Tue Nov 29 07:24:42 2005 X-Original-To: majordomo-users@greatcircle.com Received: from reseller8.flexwebhosting.nl (unknown [82.192.67.70]) by mycroft.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D78E632C2E0 for ; Tue, 29 Nov 2005 07:24:39 -0800 (PST) Received: from 82-217-119-134.cable.quicknet.nl ([82.217.119.134] helo=laptop) by reseller8.flexwebhosting.nl with esmtpa (Exim 4.50) id 1Eh7Nt-0008P8-3s for majordomo-users@greatcircle.com; Tue, 29 Nov 2005 16:27:09 +0100 Message-ID: <021301c5f4f8$fb4b25c0$6a01a8c0@laptop> From: "W. van Eis" Cc: References: <200511251304.jAPD40nd004572@atlantis.emacolet.com> <027e01c5f372$fca59ae0$6501a8c0@laptop> <4389EA63.9070404@sonny.org> Subject: No Digest? Date: Tue, 29 Nov 2005 16:24:24 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=response Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 X-Archive-Number: 200511/13 X-Sequence-Number: 5228 Seems like my Majordomo list doesn't send out digests. What could be the problem? Regards, Wop From majordomo-users-owner@greatcircle.com Tue Nov 29 07:35:45 2005 X-Original-To: majordomo-users@greatcircle.com Received: from atlantis.emacolet.com (atlantis.emacolet.com [66.166.78.85]) by mycroft.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E52C832C4CB for ; Tue, 29 Nov 2005 07:35:36 -0800 (PST) Received: from akelalt (c-67-181-54-30.hsd1.ca.comcast.net [67.181.54.30]) (authenticated bits=0) by atlantis.emacolet.com (8.13.5/8.13.5) with ESMTP id jATFZYxQ030357 for ; Tue, 29 Nov 2005 07:35:35 -0800 Message-Id: <200511291535.jATFZYxQ030357@atlantis.emacolet.com> Reply-To: From: "Peter P. Benac" To: Subject: Re: No Digest? Date: Tue, 29 Nov 2005 07:35:29 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook, Build 11.0.5510 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 Thread-Index: AcX0+SJVylF4RgWXSliI0wShBxhHgAAAQaBA In-Reply-To: <021301c5f4f8$fb4b25c0$6a01a8c0@laptop> X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.53 on 192.168.0.253 X-Archive-Number: 200511/14 X-Sequence-Number: 5229 A whole lot more information would be nice? How are your aliases set up? do you have a list config and a digest config? What do you have for setting for digest_maxdays and digest_maxlines? Do you have the digest in cron? What version of MD? Regards, Pete ---- Peter P. Benac, CCNA Emacolet Networking Services, Inc Providing Network and Systems Project Management and Installation and Web Hosting. Phone: 919-618-2557 Web: http://www.emacolet.com Need quick reliable Systems or Network Management advice visit http://www.nmsusers.org To have principles... First have courage.. With principles comes integrity!!! > -----Original Message----- > From: majordomo-users-owner@greatcircle.com > [mailto:majordomo-users-owner@greatcircle.com] On Behalf Of W. van Eis > Sent: Tuesday, November 29, 2005 07:24 > Cc: majordomo-users@greatcircle.com > Subject: No Digest? > > Seems like my Majordomo list doesn't send out digests. What > could be the > problem? > > Regards, > Wop > > From majordomo-users-owner@greatcircle.com Tue Nov 29 07:54:31 2005 X-Original-To: majordomo-users@greatcircle.com Received: from atlantis.emacolet.com (atlantis.emacolet.com [66.166.78.85]) by mycroft.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 38CB232C4EE for ; Tue, 29 Nov 2005 07:54:30 -0800 (PST) Received: from akelalt (c-67-181-54-30.hsd1.ca.comcast.net [67.181.54.30]) (authenticated bits=0) by atlantis.emacolet.com (8.13.5/8.13.5) with ESMTP id jATFsR9o030719; Tue, 29 Nov 2005 07:54:27 -0800 Message-Id: <200511291554.jATFsR9o030719@atlantis.emacolet.com> Reply-To: From: "Peter P. Benac" To: "'W. van Eis'" Cc: , Subject: Re: No Digest? Date: Tue, 29 Nov 2005 07:54:20 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook, Build 11.0.5510 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 Thread-Index: AcX0/D8/1k4dpew4Q0Su/7qSjc1LuwAAEU5g In-Reply-To: <024901c5f4fc$343658c0$6a01a8c0@laptop> X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.53 on 192.168.0.253 X-Archive-Number: 200511/15 X-Sequence-Number: 5230 The aliases are part of the underlying mail transport agents configuration. You will need to talk to your provider to ensure they are setup to digest the incoming messages. If messages are not being digested then there won't be a digest. The digest config is in the same place as your regular list config. Again you will need to speak to your provider to ensure Majordomo is setup correctly for digests. If I was a betting man I would bet they are not!!! Regards, Pete ---- Peter P. Benac, CCNA Emacolet Networking Services, Inc Providing Network and Systems Project Management and Installation and Web Hosting. Phone: 919-618-2557 Web: http://www.emacolet.com Need quick reliable Systems or Network Management advice visit http://www.nmsusers.org To have principles... First have courage.. With principles comes integrity!!! > -----Original Message----- > From: W. van Eis [mailto:wop@vaneis.nl] > Sent: Tuesday, November 29, 2005 07:47 > To: ppbenac@emacolet.com > Cc: jeroen@flexwebhosting.nl > Subject: Re: No Digest? > > > >A whole lot more information would be nice? How are your > aliases set up? > > do you have a list config and a digest config? What do you have for > > setting > > for digest_maxdays and digest_maxlines? Do you have the > digest in cron? > > > > What version of MD? > > > > Regards, > > Pete > > Hi Pete, > > digest_maxdays=2 and digest_maxlines=100 > > Where can i find the digest config? And what do you mean by > the aliases? > Must there be cron jobs for digests? Where using Majordom > through a admin > panel so we don't have dirct acces to the file's > > Regards, > Wop > > From majordomo-users-owner@greatcircle.com Wed Nov 30 03:59:12 2005 X-Original-To: majordomo-users@greatcircle.com Received: from wbmler3.mail.xerox.com (wbmler3.mail.xerox.com [13.13.138.218]) by mycroft.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A10A632C584 for ; Wed, 30 Nov 2005 03:58:23 -0800 (PST) Received: from wbmlir3.mail.xerox.com (wbmlir3.mail.xerox.com [13.131.8.223]) by wbmler3.mail.xerox.com (8.13.4/8.13.1) with ESMTP id jAUC45bg010742 for ; Wed, 30 Nov 2005 07:04:05 -0500 Received: from wbmlir3.mail.xerox.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by wbmlir3.mail.xerox.com (8.13.4/8.13.1) with ESMTP id jAUC3KaA017625 for ; Wed, 30 Nov 2005 07:03:20 -0500 Received: from usa0300gw02.na.xerox.net (usa0300gw02.na.xerox.net [13.129.0.42]) by wbmlir3.mail.xerox.com (8.13.4/8.13.1) with ESMTP id jAUC3EBf017508 for ; Wed, 30 Nov 2005 07:03:20 -0500 Received: from usa0300ms02.na.xerox.net ([13.135.34.11]) by usa0300gw02.na.xerox.net with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.211); Wed, 30 Nov 2005 07:03:12 -0500 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5.7226.0 Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: Problems with duplicate messages Date: Wed, 30 Nov 2005 07:03:12 -0500 Message-ID: X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: Problems with duplicate messages Thread-Index: AcX1pgkzTjMR12OZScKXBD1TTwRRuA== From: "Doty, Robert" To: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 30 Nov 2005 12:03:12.0527 (UTC) FILETIME=[09A769F0:01C5F5A6] X-Archive-Number: 200511/16 X-Sequence-Number: 5231 I am using Majordomo 1.94, and have a single list file and configuration. = I have 1200 users subscribed to the list. I periodically sort the list by = domain name to speed up mail delivery. The problem I am having is that som= e users complain of duplicate copies of each message, sometimes 2,3 even 4 = copies of the same message come through. I have confirmed that there is no= potential for loops in the alias file. The users complaining are in the l= ist file only once. I checked my maillog file and for each message that is= send via smtp, their e-mail shows up only once. I am at a total loss! I = have read that smtp servers sometimes have timeout issues and this causes d= uplicate messages but I would not expect this to be the cause since it happ= ens to the same users all the time. Does anyone out there have any ideas? =20 Thanks, Rob =20