From majordomo-users-owner@greatcircle.com Wed Feb 1 13:04:26 2006 X-Original-To: majordomo-users@greatcircle.com Received: from kuller.raad.tartu.ee (kuller.raad.tartu.ee [194.126.106.100]) by mycroft.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 108EC32C2B2 for ; Wed, 1 Feb 2006 13:04:17 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by kuller.raad.tartu.ee (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6BCBFBB43; Wed, 1 Feb 2006 23:04:15 +0200 (EET) Received: from kuller.raad.tartu.ee ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (kuller.raad.tartu.ee [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 11678-02; Wed, 1 Feb 2006 23:04:12 +0200 (EET) Received: from raad.tartu.ee (lv.raad.tartu.ee [194.126.106.110]) by kuller.raad.tartu.ee (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0CA7EBB4B; Wed, 1 Feb 2006 23:04:11 +0200 (EET) Received: from INFO/SpoolDir by raad.tartu.ee (Mercury 1.48); 1 Feb 06 23:04:12 +0300 Received: from SpoolDir by INFO (Mercury 1.48); 1 Feb 06 23:03:56 +0300 Received: from [192.168.1.2] (192.168.1.2) by raad.tartu.ee (Mercury 1.48) with ESMTP; 1 Feb 06 23:03:53 +0300 Message-ID: <43E1223E.1050804@raad.tartu.ee> Date: Wed, 01 Feb 2006 23:03:58 +0200 From: Toomas Aas User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.7 (Windows/20050923) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Daniel Kaliel , majordomo-users@greatcircle.com Subject: Re: Around in Circles References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at post.raad.tartu.ee X-Archive-Number: 200602/1 X-Sequence-Number: 5301 Daniel Kaliel wrote: > < myserver.lists.mydomain.com #5.0.0 X-Postfix; mail for=20 > lists.jjbedmonton.com loops back to myself> This means that, as you said, the MX record for lists.jjbedmonton.com point= s to your Postfix/Majordomo box (where you are seeing the error). However, Postf= ix on this machine does not think that it should treat addresses @lists.jjbedmont= on.com as local. What do you see when you run 'postconf mydestination' on your Postfix / Maj= ordomo machine? The output should contain lists.jjbedmonton.com. If it doesn't, yo= u need to set it in main.cf and run 'postfix reload' to activate the change. --=20 Toomas Aas -------------------------------------------------------- |arvutiv=F5rgu peaspetsialist | head specialist on computer networks| |Tartu Linnakantselei | Tartu City Office | ----------------------------------------------------- +372 736 1274 From majordomo-users-owner@greatcircle.com Thu Feb 2 10:57:13 2006 X-Original-To: majordomo-users@greatcircle.com Received: from hermes.jjbedmonton.com (unknown [209.148.223.55]) by mycroft.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 74B2A32C1EA for ; Thu, 2 Feb 2006 10:57:06 -0800 (PST) Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----_=_NextPart_001_01C6282A.754CC6DA" Subject: List not expanding X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5 Date: Thu, 2 Feb 2006 11:56:45 -0700 Message-ID: X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: List not expanding Thread-index: AcYoKmmt04uG6pzWQoWBTeqr7vcaWw== From: "Daniel Kaliel" To: X-Archive-Number: 200602/2 X-Sequence-Number: 5302 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------_=_NextPart_001_01C6282A.754CC6DA Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Ok here is the scenerio, =20 We are running exchange in the primary domain, and postfix / majordomo in t= he child domain. The problem is, as I found out from the postfix group, th= at by trying to send an email to an address in aliase_maps or aliase_databa= se the aliase does not get expanded to the email address unless it is for l= ocal delivery. But since there is no local devliery the aliase does not ge= t expanded. I am not having the same problem with Majordomo. Because the = majordomo.aliases.db is in aliase_database and it is not delivering the ema= il locally it is not expanding out the list. =20 Any ideas? ------_=_NextPart_001_01C6282A.754CC6DA Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Ok here is the scenerio,
 
We are running exchange in the primary dom= ain, and=20 postfix / majordomo in the child domain.  The problem is, as I found o= ut=20 from the postfix group, that by trying to send an email to an address in=20 aliase_maps or aliase_database the aliase does not get expanded to the emai= l=20 address unless it is for local delivery.  But since there is no local= =20 devliery the aliase does not get expanded.  I am not having the same= =20 problem with Majordomo.  Because the majordomo.aliases.db is in=20 aliase_database and it is not delivering the email locally it is not expand= ing=20 out the list.
 
Any ideas?
------_=_NextPart_001_01C6282A.754CC6DA-- From majordomo-users-owner@greatcircle.com Thu Feb 2 13:19:08 2006 X-Original-To: Majordomo-Users@GreatCircle.COM Received: from hermes.jjbedmonton.com (unknown [209.148.223.55]) by mycroft.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B79C132C1A2 for ; Thu, 2 Feb 2006 13:19:07 -0800 (PST) Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----_=_NextPart_001_01C6283E.4CABD21E" Subject: Is it even possible X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5 Date: Thu, 2 Feb 2006 14:19:06 -0700 Message-ID: X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: Is it even possible Thread-index: AcYoPkyplv8DNprYRRWP+RSJKs+aTg== From: "Daniel Kaliel" To: X-Archive-Number: 200602/3 X-Sequence-Number: 5303 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------_=_NextPart_001_01C6283E.4CABD21E Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Is it even possible to have email sent from a parent domain, to a postfix /= majordomo listserve in a child domain, and that listserve send emails out. =20 I am starting to think I need to switch to sendmail instead of using postfi= x. ------_=_NextPart_001_01C6283E.4CABD21E Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Is it even possible to have email sent from a parent=20 domain, to a postfix / majordomo listserve in a child domain, and that list= serve=20 send emails out.
 
I am starting to think I need to switch to= sendmail=20 instead of using postfix.
------_=_NextPart_001_01C6283E.4CABD21E-- From majordomo-users-owner@greatcircle.com Thu Feb 2 14:16:17 2006 X-Original-To: majordomo-users@greatcircle.com Received: from atlantis.emacolet.com (atlantis.emacolet.com [66.166.78.85]) by mycroft.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1026332C156 for ; Thu, 2 Feb 2006 14:16:16 -0800 (PST) Received: from webmail.emacolet.com (atlantis.emacolet.com [192.168.0.253]) by atlantis.emacolet.com (8.13.5/8.13.5) with SMTP id k12MGEuq029769; Thu, 2 Feb 2006 14:16:15 -0800 Received: from 66.52.88.35 (proxying for unknown) (SquirrelMail authenticated user ppbenac@emacolet.com); by webmail.emacolet.com with HTTP; Thu, 2 Feb 2006 14:16:15 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <44622.66.52.88.35.1138918575.squirrel@66.52.88.35> In-Reply-To: References: Date: Thu, 2 Feb 2006 14:16:15 -0800 (PST) Subject: Re: Is it even possible From: "Peter P. Benac" To: "Daniel Kaliel" Cc: majordomo-users@greatcircle.com User-Agent: SquirrelMail/1.4.3 [CVS] X-Mailer: SquirrelMail/1.4.3 [CVS] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 Importance: Normal X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.53 on 192.168.0.253 X-Archive-Number: 200602/4 X-Sequence-Number: 5304 Personally I would use the postfix system as a front-end to the Exchange server. Then relay local mail delivery back to Exchange for unknown users. You might even consider using the Linux fron-end to filter spam and viruses from all incomming mail. Make everyone happy. Regards, Pete > Is it even possible to have email sent from a parent domain, to a postfix > / majordomo listserve in a child domain, and that listserve send emails > out. > > I am starting to think I need to switch to sendmail instead of using > postfix. > ---- Peter P. Benac, CCNA Emacolet Networking Services, Inc Providing Network and Systems Project Management and Installation and Web Hosting. Phone: 919-618-2557 Web: http://www.emacolet.com Need quick reliable Systems or Network Management advice visit http://www.nmsusers.org To have principles... First have courage.. With principles comes integrity!!! From majordomo-users-owner@greatcircle.com Thu Feb 2 21:09:16 2006 X-Original-To: Majordomo-Users@GreatCircle.COM Received: from mailbox.onlinepolicy.net (mailbox.onlinepolicy.net [64.62.161.194]) by mycroft.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A512E32C2C4 for ; Thu, 2 Feb 2006 21:06:51 -0800 (PST) Received: from [192.168.1.112] (CPE0002b3917214-CM0011aec5dab4.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com [70.29.90.21]) by mailbox.onlinepolicy.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 52D5573155; Thu, 2 Feb 2006 21:06:45 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <43E2E4E4.8060500@queernet.org> Date: Thu, 02 Feb 2006 21:06:44 -0800 From: "Roger B.A. Klorese" User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5 (Windows/20051201) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Daniel Kaliel Cc: Majordomo-Users@GreatCircle.COM Subject: Re: Is it even possible References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Archive-Number: 200602/5 X-Sequence-Number: 5305 Daniel Kaliel wrote: > Is it even possible to have email sent from a parent domain, to a > postfix / majordomo listserve in a child domain, and that listserve > send emails out. Of course. > I am starting to think I need to switch to sendmail instead of using > postfix. It doesn't sound like you're willing to listen to anybody's advice or to bother understanding what an address class is in Postfix. If that's the case, and you're comfortable using sendmail, then you should use it. And if you're not comfortable using either, you should probably find someone who is to do the job. From majordomo-users-owner@greatcircle.com Fri Feb 3 03:51:21 2006 X-Original-To: majordomo-users@greatcircle.com Received: from mail.neti.ee (smtp-out-3.neti.ee [194.126.101.111]) by mycroft.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1093D32C39A for ; Fri, 3 Feb 2006 03:43:48 -0800 (PST) Received: from [217.159.161.136] (217-159-161-136-dsl.trt.estpak.ee [217.159.161.136]) by Relayhost2.neti.ee (Postfix) with ESMTP id 38B2B7F1F; Fri, 3 Feb 2006 13:49:00 +0200 (EET) Message-ID: <43E3433D.9010600@raad.tartu.ee> Date: Fri, 03 Feb 2006 13:49:17 +0200 From: Toomas Aas User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.7 (X11/20060105) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Daniel Kaliel Cc: majordomo-users@greatcircle.com Subject: Re: List not expanding References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new-2.2.1 (20041222) (Debian) at neti.ee X-Archive-Number: 200602/6 X-Sequence-Number: 5306 Daniel Kaliel wrote: > We are running exchange in the primary domain, and postfix / majordomo > in the child domain. The problem is, as I found out from the postfix > group, that by trying to send an email to an address in aliase_maps or > aliase_database the aliase does not get expanded to the email address > unless it is for local delivery. But since there is no local devliery > the aliase does not get expanded. I guess the logical question is "why is there no local delivery?" -- ... Out of my mind. Back in five minutes. From majordomo-users-owner@greatcircle.com Sat Feb 4 17:01:56 2006 X-Original-To: majordomo-users@greatcircle.com Received: from sccrmhc13.comcast.net (sccrmhc13.comcast.net [204.127.200.83]) by mycroft.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 77EF532C205 for ; Sat, 4 Feb 2006 17:01:55 -0800 (PST) Received: from doofus.chinet.com ([67.165.177.235]) by comcast.net (sccrmhc13) with ESMTP id <2006020501014901300pnmnle>; Sun, 5 Feb 2006 01:01:49 +0000 Received: by doofus.chinet.com (Postfix, from userid 500) id DEA60D7659; Sat, 4 Feb 2006 19:03:59 -0600 (CST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by doofus.chinet.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id DB7952E865 for ; Sat, 4 Feb 2006 19:03:59 -0600 (CST) Date: Sat, 4 Feb 2006 19:03:59 -0600 (CST) From: "Adam H. Kerman" To: majordomo-users@greatcircle.com Subject: Postfix plus Exchange (was: Is it even possible) In-Reply-To: <44622.66.52.88.35.1138918575.squirrel@66.52.88.35> Message-ID: References: <44622.66.52.88.35.1138918575.squirrel@66.52.88.35> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Archive-Number: 200602/7 X-Sequence-Number: 5307 At 2:16pm -0800, 02/02/06, Peter P. Benac wrote: >>Is it even possible to have email sent from a parent domain, to a >>postfix/majordomo listserve in a child domain, and that listserve send >>emails out. >>I am starting to think I need to switch to sendmail instead of using >>postfix. >Personally I would use the postfix system as a front-end to the Exchange >server. Then relay local mail delivery back to Exchange for unknown users. Why would you install Exchange under such circumstances? >You might even consider using the Linux fron-end to filter spam and >viruses from all incomming mail. Make everyone happy. From majordomo-users-owner@greatcircle.com Mon Feb 6 07:59:22 2006 X-Original-To: Majordomo-Users@GreatCircle.COM Received: from hermes.jjbedmonton.com (unknown [209.148.223.55]) by mycroft.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A7DFE32C2E8 for ; Mon, 6 Feb 2006 07:58:23 -0800 (PST) Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----_=_NextPart_001_01C62B36.26EB0633" Subject: list postings X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5 Date: Mon, 6 Feb 2006 08:58:20 -0700 Message-ID: X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: list postings Thread-index: AcYrNibmOYMFqvQDRmCSmR2ErBHN6Q== From: "Daniel Kaliel" To: X-Archive-Number: 200602/8 X-Sequence-Number: 5308 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------_=_NextPart_001_01C62B36.26EB0633 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I just wanted to verify something. I am creating a list that only 3 people= can post to. All three are on the list, but the total list is 800 people.= Is a moderated list the best way to ensure that only those 3 people can p= ost to it? ------_=_NextPart_001_01C62B36.26EB0633 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
I just wanted to verify something.  I am creating a=20 list that only 3 people can post to.  All three are on the list, but t= he=20 total list is 800 people.  Is a moderated list the best way to ensure = that=20 only those 3 people can post to it?
------_=_NextPart_001_01C62B36.26EB0633-- From majordomo-users-owner@greatcircle.com Mon Feb 6 08:36:08 2006 X-Original-To: Majordomo-Users@greatcircle.com Received: from hermes.jjbedmonton.com (unknown [209.148.223.55]) by mycroft.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id AA35032C29B for ; Mon, 6 Feb 2006 08:36:07 -0800 (PST) Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----_=_NextPart_001_01C62B3B.6D698D48" Subject: Almost complete X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5 Date: Mon, 6 Feb 2006 09:34:09 -0700 Message-ID: X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: Almost complete Thread-index: AcYrN/vPFuWaJLbWRVGnn0kW2b2UWQAAyvb6 References: From: "Daniel Kaliel" To: X-Archive-Number: 200602/9 X-Sequence-Number: 5309 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------_=_NextPart_001_01C62B3B.6D698D48 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I have but just 1 question left... =20 Is it possible to have the list setup such that in the header To: instead o= f the list name, it shows just that individuals email addess? =20 I know it may be a wierd request but one of the partners wants to know and = I can't find that out anywhere so I am assume no you can't. ------_=_NextPart_001_01C62B3B.6D698D48 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Re: list postings
I have but just 1 question left...
 
Is it possible to have the list setup such th= at in the=20 header To: instead of the list name, it shows just that individuals email= =20 addess?
 
I know it may be a wierd request but one of t= he=20 partners wants to know and I can't find that out anywhere so I am assume no= you=20 can't.
------_=_NextPart_001_01C62B3B.6D698D48-- From majordomo-users-owner@greatcircle.com Mon Feb 6 08:45:14 2006 X-Original-To: Majordomo-Users@greatcircle.com Received: from wbmler4.mail.xerox.com (wbmler4.mail.xerox.com [13.13.138.219]) by mycroft.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 356BA32C307 for ; Mon, 6 Feb 2006 08:45:13 -0800 (PST) Received: from wbmlir3.mail.xerox.com (wbmlir3.mail.xerox.com [13.131.8.223]) by wbmler4.mail.xerox.com (8.13.4/8.13.1) with ESMTP id k16Gj9CZ029275; Mon, 6 Feb 2006 11:45:12 -0500 Received: from wbmlir3.mail.xerox.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by wbmlir3.mail.xerox.com (8.13.4/8.13.1) with ESMTP id k16GiXSh012822; Mon, 6 Feb 2006 11:44:33 -0500 Received: from usa7061gw02.na.xerox.net (usa7061gw02.na.xerox.net [13.151.32.4]) by wbmlir3.mail.xerox.com (8.13.4/8.13.1) with ESMTP id k16GiFDx012723; Mon, 6 Feb 2006 11:44:31 -0500 Received: from usa0300ms02.na.xerox.net ([13.135.34.11]) by usa7061gw02.na.xerox.net with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.211); Mon, 6 Feb 2006 08:44:39 -0800 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5.7226.0 Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----_=_NextPart_001_01C62B3C.979A00BB" Subject: Re: list postings Date: Mon, 6 Feb 2006 11:44:27 -0500 Message-ID: X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: list postings Thread-Index: AcYrNibmOYMFqvQDRmCSmR2ErBHN6QABfOLg From: "Doty, Robert" To: "Daniel Kaliel" , X-OriginalArrivalTime: 06 Feb 2006 16:44:39.0345 (UTC) FILETIME=[9F125A10:01C62B3C] X-Archive-Number: 200602/10 X-Sequence-Number: 5310 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------_=_NextPart_001_01C62B3C.979A00BB Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I would create a "list file" with only those three individuals and set your restrict post to that list file. Delivery would occur to the entire list, but only those three would be able to post. =20 For the To: field question... are you asking that the sender address show up in the TO: field, or the individual recipient such that each person receiving the message will see his/her address in the To field? =20 Thanks, =20 Rob =20 =20 G. Robert Doty MCD Integration Manager XOG / SEBU / MCD Xerox Corporation Phone: 585-427-3681 Robert.Doty@xerox.com "This e-mail message, including any attachments, is for the sole use of the intended recipient(s) and may contain confidential information. Any unauthorized review, use, disclosure or distribution is prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient(s) please contact the sender by reply e-mail and destroy all copies of the original message. Finally, the recipient should check that this email is authentic and examine it for the presence of viruses. Xerox does perform virus checks but cannot accept liability for any damage caused by any virus transmitted by this email. Thank you." =20=20=20=20=20=20=20 =20 ________________________________ From: majordomo-users-owner@greatcircle.com [mailto:majordomo-users-owner@greatcircle.com] On Behalf Of Daniel Kaliel Sent: Monday, February 06, 2006 10:58 AM To: Majordomo-Users@greatcircle.com Subject: list postings I just wanted to verify something. I am creating a list that only 3 people can post to. All three are on the list, but the total list is 800 people. Is a moderated list the best way to ensure that only those 3 people can post to it? ------_=_NextPart_001_01C62B3C.979A00BB Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
I would create a "list file" with only those three= =20 individuals and set your restrict post to that list file.  Delivery wo= uld=20 occur to the entire list, but only those three would be able to=20 post.
 
For the To: field question... are you asking that = the=20 sender address show up in the TO: field, or the individual recipient such t= hat=20 each person receiving the message will see his/her address in the To=20 field?
 
Thanks,
 
Rob
 
 



G. Robert Doty
MCD Integration Manager
XOG / = SEBU /=20 MCD
Xerox Corporation
Phone:=20 585-427-3681
Robert.Doty@xerox.com

     =   =20 "This e-mail message, including any attachments, is for the sole use of the= =20 intended recipient(s) and may contain confidential information. Any unautho= rized=20 review, use, disclosure or distribution is prohibited. If you are not the= =20 intended recipient(s) please contact the sender by reply e-mail and destroy= all=20 copies of the original message. Finally, the recipient should check that th= is=20 email is authentic and examine it for the presence of viruses. Xerox does= =20 perform virus checks but cannot accept liability for any damage caused by a= ny=20 virus transmitted by this email. Thank=20 you."

       


 

From: majordomo-users-owner@greatcircle= .com=20 [mailto:majordomo-users-owner@greatcircle.com] On Behalf Of Daniel= =20 Kaliel
Sent: Monday, February 06, 2006 10:58 AM
To:=20 Majordomo-Users@greatcircle.com
Subject: list=20 postings

I just wanted to verify=20 something.  I am creating a list that only 3 people can post to. = All=20 three are on the list, but the total list is 800 people.  Is a moderat= ed=20 list the best way to ensure that only those 3 people can post to=20 it?
------_=_NextPart_001_01C62B3C.979A00BB-- From majordomo-users-owner@greatcircle.com Mon Feb 6 08:53:41 2006 X-Original-To: Majordomo-Users@greatcircle.com Received: from hermes.jjbedmonton.com (unknown [209.148.223.55]) by mycroft.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1059D32C2C7 for ; Mon, 6 Feb 2006 08:53:40 -0800 (PST) Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----_=_NextPart_001_01C62B3D.E18CA4B9" Subject: Re: list postings X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5 Date: Mon, 6 Feb 2006 09:51:27 -0700 Message-ID: X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: list postings Thread-index: AcYrNibmOYMFqvQDRmCSmR2ErBHN6QABfOLgAABeBLQ= References: From: "Daniel Kaliel" To: X-Archive-Number: 200602/11 X-Sequence-Number: 5311 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------_=_NextPart_001_01C62B3D.E18CA4B9 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable =20 ________________________________ From: Doty, Robert [mailto:Robert.Doty@Xerox.com] Sent: Mon 06/02/2006 9:44 AM To: Daniel Kaliel; Majordomo-Users@greatcircle.com Subject: RE: list postings I would create a "list file" with only those three individuals and set your= restrict post to that list file. Delivery would occur to the entire list,= but only those three would be able to post. =20 For the To: field question... are you asking that the sender address show u= p in the TO: field, or the individual recipient such that each person recei= ving the message will see his/her address in the To field? =20 Thanks, =20 Rob =20 --------------------------------------------- =20 Wether or not you can put the individual recipient in the To field for each= person recieving the message. So the message looks like to came from Me, = to just you. ------_=_NextPart_001_01C62B3D.E18CA4B9 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
 

From: Doty, Robert=20 [mailto:Robert.Doty@Xerox.com]
Sent: Mon 06/02/2006 9:44=20 AM
To: Daniel Kaliel;=20 Majordomo-Users@greatcircle.com
Subject: RE: list=20 postings

I would create a "list file" with only those three= =20 individuals and set your restrict post to that list file.  Delivery wo= uld=20 occur to the entire list, but only those three would be able to=20 post.
 
For the To: field question... are you asking that = the=20 sender address show up in the TO: field, or the individual recipient such t= hat=20 each person receiving the message will see his/her address in the To=20 field?
 
Thanks,
 
Rob
 
---------------------------------------------
 
Wether or not you can put the in= dividual=20 recipient in the To field for each person recieving the message.  So t= he=20 message looks like to came from Me, to just=20 you.
------_=_NextPart_001_01C62B3D.E18CA4B9-- From majordomo-users-owner@greatcircle.com Mon Feb 6 09:01:13 2006 X-Original-To: Majordomo-Users@greatcircle.com Received: from wbmler4.mail.xerox.com (wbmler4.mail.xerox.com [13.13.138.219]) by mycroft.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E4C1232C313 for ; Mon, 6 Feb 2006 09:01:11 -0800 (PST) Received: from wbmlir3.mail.xerox.com (wbmlir3.mail.xerox.com [13.131.8.223]) by wbmler4.mail.xerox.com (8.13.4/8.13.1) with ESMTP id k16H12la014178; Mon, 6 Feb 2006 12:01:11 -0500 Received: from wbmlir3.mail.xerox.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by wbmlir3.mail.xerox.com (8.13.4/8.13.1) with ESMTP id k16H0eTU024822; Mon, 6 Feb 2006 12:00:40 -0500 Received: from usa7061gw02.na.xerox.net (usa7061gw02.na.xerox.net [13.151.32.4]) by wbmlir3.mail.xerox.com (8.13.4/8.13.1) with ESMTP id k16H0DtK024469; Mon, 6 Feb 2006 12:00:40 -0500 Received: from usa0300ms02.na.xerox.net ([13.135.34.11]) by usa7061gw02.na.xerox.net with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.211); Mon, 6 Feb 2006 09:00:39 -0800 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5.7226.0 Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----_=_NextPart_001_01C62B3E.D318084D" Subject: Re: list postings Date: Mon, 6 Feb 2006 12:00:25 -0500 Message-ID: X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: list postings Thread-Index: AcYrNibmOYMFqvQDRmCSmR2ErBHN6QABfOLgAABeBLQAADvoEA== From: "Doty, Robert" To: "Daniel Kaliel" , X-OriginalArrivalTime: 06 Feb 2006 17:00:39.0031 (UTC) FILETIME=[DB16D070:01C62B3E] X-Archive-Number: 200602/12 X-Sequence-Number: 5312 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------_=_NextPart_001_01C62B3E.D318084D Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable My understanding of this is that it cannot be done be default, but anything can be done by altering the resend scripts to accomodate. You would need make a call to sendmail for every person in the recipient list and remove the DL as the original recipient. This may be more work than you want to sign up for.=20=20 =20 If anyone knows an easy way... I too would like to know. =20 Thanks, =20 Rob =20 =20 G. Robert Doty MCD Integration Manager XOG / SEBU / MCD Xerox Corporation Phone: 585-427-3681 Robert.Doty@xerox.com "This e-mail message, including any attachments, is for the sole use of the intended recipient(s) and may contain confidential information. Any unauthorized review, use, disclosure or distribution is prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient(s) please contact the sender by reply e-mail and destroy all copies of the original message. Finally, the recipient should check that this email is authentic and examine it for the presence of viruses. Xerox does perform virus checks but cannot accept liability for any damage caused by any virus transmitted by this email. Thank you." =20=20=20=20=20=20=20 =20 ________________________________ From: majordomo-users-owner@greatcircle.com [mailto:majordomo-users-owner@greatcircle.com] On Behalf Of Daniel Kaliel Sent: Monday, February 06, 2006 11:51 AM To: Majordomo-Users@greatcircle.com Subject: Re: list postings =20 ________________________________ From: Doty, Robert [mailto:Robert.Doty@Xerox.com] Sent: Mon 06/02/2006 9:44 AM To: Daniel Kaliel; Majordomo-Users@greatcircle.com Subject: RE: list postings I would create a "list file" with only those three individuals and set your restrict post to that list file. Delivery would occur to the entire list, but only those three would be able to post. =20 For the To: field question... are you asking that the sender address show up in the TO: field, or the individual recipient such that each person receiving the message will see his/her address in the To field? =20 Thanks, =20 Rob =20 --------------------------------------------- =20 Wether or not you can put the individual recipient in the To field for each person recieving the message. So the message looks like to came from Me, to just you. ------_=_NextPart_001_01C62B3E.D318084D Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
My understanding of this is that it cannot be done= be=20 default, but anything can be done by altering the resend scripts to=20 accomodate.  You would need make a call to sendmail for every per= son=20 in the recipient list and remove the DL as the original recipient.  Th= is=20 may be more work than you want to sign up for. 
 
If anyone knows an easy way... I too would like to= =20 know.
 
Thanks,
 
Rob
 <= /DIV>
 



G. Robert Doty
MCD Integration Manager
XOG / = SEBU /=20 MCD
Xerox Corporation
Phone:=20 585-427-3681
Robert.Doty@xerox.com

     =   =20 "This e-mail message, including any attachments, is for the sole use of the= =20 intended recipient(s) and may contain confidential information. Any unautho= rized=20 review, use, disclosure or distribution is prohibited. If you are not the= =20 intended recipient(s) please contact the sender by reply e-mail and destroy= all=20 copies of the original message. Finally, the recipient should check that th= is=20 email is authentic and examine it for the presence of viruses. Xerox does= =20 perform virus checks but cannot accept liability for any damage caused by a= ny=20 virus transmitted by this email. Thank=20 you."

       


 

From: majordomo-users-owner@greatcircle= .com=20 [mailto:majordomo-users-owner@greatcircle.com] On Behalf Of Daniel= =20 Kaliel
Sent: Monday, February 06, 2006 11:51 AM
To:=20 Majordomo-Users@greatcircle.com
Subject: Re: list=20 postings

 

From: Doty, Robert=20 [mailto:Robert.Doty@Xerox.com]
Sent: Mon 06/02/2006 9:44=20 AM
To: Daniel Kaliel;=20 Majordomo-Users@greatcircle.com
Subject: RE: list=20 postings

I would create a "list file" with only those three= =20 individuals and set your restrict post to that list file.  Delivery wo= uld=20 occur to the entire list, but only those three would be able to=20 post.
 
For the To: field question... are you asking that = the=20 sender address show up in the TO: field, or the individual recipient such t= hat=20 each person receiving the message will see his/her address in the To=20 field?
 
Thanks,
 
Rob
 
---------------------------------------------
 
Wether or not you can put the in= dividual=20 recipient in the To field for each person recieving the message.  So t= he=20 message looks like to came from Me, to just=20 you.
------_=_NextPart_001_01C62B3E.D318084D-- From majordomo-users-owner@greatcircle.com Mon Feb 6 11:59:37 2006 X-Original-To: Majordomo-Users@greatcircle.com Received: from hermes.jjbedmonton.com (unknown [209.148.223.55]) by mycroft.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B24BC32C319 for ; Mon, 6 Feb 2006 11:59:33 -0800 (PST) Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----_=_NextPart_001_01C62B57.D6F07B83" Subject: Not response from Majordomo X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5 Date: Mon, 6 Feb 2006 12:55:00 -0700 Message-ID: X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: Not response from Majordomo Thread-index: AcYrNibmOYMFqvQDRmCSmR2ErBHN6QABfOLgAABeBLQAADvoEAAGLTH3 References: From: "Daniel Kaliel" To: X-Archive-Number: 200602/13 X-Sequence-Number: 5313 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------_=_NextPart_001_01C62B57.D6F07B83 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Anyone have any ideas why when I send a post to majordomo@... It gets bounc= ed back with below.... Wait before that. This is running off of Fedora 4, = and it seems I had to do some crazy sh*t with my virtual_alias to get anyth= ing to work. For example. Even though in majordomo.aliases I have =20 mylist-owner: noc@jjbedmonton.com =20 When it gets expanded it is sending to postfix mylist-owner@ as the email a= ddress. Does Fedora do something FUNKY with majordomo? I am thinking I s= hould install it from rpm and install via tar.gz and begin again. Thoughts? =20 Here is the email bounce from first comment. =20 This is the Postfix program at host vader.lists.jjbedmonton.com. I'm sorry to have to inform you that your message could not be delivered to one or more recipients. It's attached below. For further assistance, please send mail to If you do so, please include this problem report. You can delete your own text from the attached returned message. The Postfix program (expanded from ): host hermes.jjbedmonton.com[209.148.223.55] said: 501 5.5.4 Invalid Address = (in reply to MAIL FROM command) =20 =20 ------_=_NextPart_001_01C62B57.D6F07B83 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Anyone have any ideas why when I se= nd a post=20 to majordomo@... It gets bounced back with below.... Wait before that. = ;=20 This is running off of Fedora 4, and it seems I had to do some crazy sh*t w= ith=20 my virtual_alias to get anything to work.  For example.  Even tho= ugh=20 in majordomo.aliases I have
 
mylist-owner:   noc@jjbedmonton.com
 
When it gets expanded it is sending to postfix mylist-owner@= as the=20 email address.   Does Fedora do something FUNKY with majordomo?&n= bsp;=20 I am thinking I should install it from rpm and install via tar.gz and begin= =20 again.  Thoughts?
 
Here is the email bounce from first comment.
 
This is the Postfix program at host=20 vader.lists.jjbedmonton.com.

I'm sorry to have to inform you that yo= ur=20 message could not
be delivered to one or more recipients. It's attached= =20 below.

For further assistance, please send mail to=20 <postmaster>

If you do so, please include this problem report.= You=20 can
delete your own text from the attached returned=20 message.

       =20        =20         The Postfix=20 program

<noc@jjbedmonton.com> (expanded from=20 <Majordomo-Owner@>): host
   =20 hermes.jjbedmonton.com[209.148.223.55] said: 501 5.5.4 Invalid Address=20 (in
    reply to MAIL FROM command)
 
 
------_=_NextPart_001_01C62B57.D6F07B83-- From majordomo-users-owner@greatcircle.com Mon Feb 6 12:12:18 2006 X-Original-To: majordomo-users@greatcircle.com Received: from atlantis.emacolet.com (atlantis.emacolet.com [66.166.78.85]) by mycroft.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A466632C186 for ; Mon, 6 Feb 2006 12:12:17 -0800 (PST) Received: from webmail.emacolet.com (atlantis.emacolet.com [192.168.0.253]) by atlantis.emacolet.com (8.13.5/8.13.5) with SMTP id k16KCDVo007151; Mon, 6 Feb 2006 12:12:14 -0800 Received: from 66.52.88.35 (proxying for unknown) (SquirrelMail authenticated user ppbenac@emacolet.com); by webmail.emacolet.com with HTTP; Mon, 6 Feb 2006 12:12:16 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <44890.66.52.88.35.1139256736.squirrel@66.52.88.35> In-Reply-To: References: Date: Mon, 6 Feb 2006 12:12:16 -0800 (PST) Subject: Re: Not response from Majordomo From: "Peter P. Benac" To: "Daniel Kaliel" Cc: majordomo-users@greatcircle.com User-Agent: SquirrelMail/1.4.3 [CVS] X-Mailer: SquirrelMail/1.4.3 [CVS] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 Importance: Normal X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.53 on 192.168.0.253 X-Archive-Number: 200602/14 X-Sequence-Number: 5314 Daniel, If you have vitrual domains on your mail server your list aliases should reflect that: mylist-owner@virtualdomainname: noc@jjbedmonton.com Other wise the domain name will default to the primary domain of the server. Pete > Anyone have any ideas why when I send a post to majordomo@... It gets > bounced back with below.... Wait before that. This is running off of > Fedora 4, and it seems I had to do some crazy sh*t with my virtual_alias > to get anything to work. For example. Even though in majordomo.aliases I > have > > mylist-owner: noc@jjbedmonton.com > > When it gets expanded it is sending to postfix mylist-owner@ as the email > address. Does Fedora do something FUNKY with majordomo? I am thinking I > should install it from rpm and install via tar.gz and begin again. > Thoughts? > > Here is the email bounce from first comment. > > This is the Postfix program at host vader.lists.jjbedmonton.com. > > I'm sorry to have to inform you that your message could not > be delivered to one or more recipients. It's attached below. > > For further assistance, please send mail to > > If you do so, please include this problem report. You can > delete your own text from the attached returned message. > > The Postfix program > > (expanded from ): host > hermes.jjbedmonton.com[209.148.223.55] said: 501 5.5.4 Invalid Address > (in > reply to MAIL FROM command) > > > ---- Peter P. Benac, CCNA Emacolet Networking Services, Inc Providing Network and Systems Project Management and Installation and Web Hosting. Phone: 919-618-2557 Web: http://www.emacolet.com Need quick reliable Systems or Network Management advice visit http://www.nmsusers.org To have principles... First have courage.. With principles comes integrity!!! From majordomo-users-owner@greatcircle.com Mon Feb 6 12:55:09 2006 X-Original-To: Majordomo-Users@greatcircle.com Received: from hermes.jjbedmonton.com (unknown [209.148.223.55]) by mycroft.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8BB9032C1F9 for ; Mon, 6 Feb 2006 12:55:08 -0800 (PST) Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----_=_NextPart_001_01C62B5F.9CC3D687" Subject: Re: Not response from Majordomo X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5 Date: Mon, 6 Feb 2006 13:53:08 -0700 Message-ID: X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: Not response from Majordomo Thread-index: AcYrNibmOYMFqvQDRmCSmR2ErBHN6QABfOLgAABeBLQAADvoEAAGLTH3AAIHqMU= References: From: "Daniel Kaliel" To: X-Archive-Number: 200602/15 X-Sequence-Number: 5315 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------_=_NextPart_001_01C62B5F.9CC3D687 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Why do I bother to post?? No idea! =20 I figured it out. I had bad permissions in the lists directory!! =20 Please add the following script to this group. =20 if ( $FROM =3D=3D 'daniel.kaliel@'*) { DELETE_BECAUSE_HE_IS_AN_IDIOT } =20 Thanks!!! ------_=_NextPart_001_01C62B5F.9CC3D687 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Why do I bother to post?? No idea!<= /DIV>
 
I figured it out.  I had bad permissions in the lists= =20 directory!!
 
Please add the following script to this group.
 
if ( $FROM =3D=3D 'daniel.kaliel@'*) {
  DELETE_BECAUSE_HE_IS_AN_IDIOT }
 
Thanks!!!
------_=_NextPart_001_01C62B5F.9CC3D687-- From majordomo-users-owner@greatcircle.com Tue Feb 7 04:48:30 2006 X-Original-To: majordomo-users@greatcircle.com Received: from tserver5.bitmailer.ad (adslusr195-016-143-030.bitmailer.com [195.16.143.30]) by mycroft.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id EDBD632C358 for ; Tue, 7 Feb 2006 04:47:04 -0800 (PST) Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5.7226.0 Subject: restrict_post problem and question Date: Tue, 7 Feb 2006 13:55:28 +0100 Message-ID: <4501054BF56FA94D903E539F0FE2F00F7C1F47@tserver5.bitmailer.ad> X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: restrict_post problem and question Thread-Index: AcYr5cV0n9iWbhH5Rrag4xOhjMjuZw== From: "Fernando Donate" To: X-Archive-Number: 200602/16 X-Sequence-Number: 5316 Hello list, Can I configure restrict_post directive with both listfiles and domains? : restrict_post=3D listfile:@adomain Or Can I put @domains in a listfile? : restrict_post=3D listfile where listfile: pepe@pepe.com pepe2@pepe.com @adomain.com Thanks,=09 Fernando =09=09 From majordomo-users-owner@greatcircle.com Tue Feb 14 15:12:00 2006 X-Original-To: majordomo-users@greatcircle.com Received: from moroni.ourldsfamily.com (ourldsfamily.com [198.60.114.90]) by mycroft.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1A69432C160 for ; Tue, 14 Feb 2006 15:11:58 -0800 (PST) Received: from webmail.ourldsfamily.com (eth1 [172.20.20.2]) by moroni.ourldsfamily.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id k1ENBtSu019665 for ; Tue, 14 Feb 2006 16:11:57 -0700 Received: from ats ([207.173.117.242]) (SquirrelMail authenticated user karlp) by webmail.ourldsfamily.com with HTTP; Tue, 14 Feb 2006 16:11:57 -0700 (MST) Message-ID: <47251.207.173.117.242.1139958717.squirrel@webmail.ourldsfamily.com> Date: Tue, 14 Feb 2006 16:11:57 -0700 (MST) Subject: Group Members Lost From: karlp@ourldsfamily.com To: "Majordomo Users" User-Agent: SquirrelMail/1.4.4-rc1 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Importance: Normal X-Archive-Number: 200602/17 X-Sequence-Number: 5317 Under what circumstances could a group with 400 members all of a sudden have only 2? No administrators of the group other than me. Anyone every seen anything like this? Karl --- KarlP@ourldsfamily.com Senior Consulting Sys/DB Analyst http://consulting.ourldsfamily.com --- From majordomo-users-owner@greatcircle.com Wed Feb 15 04:56:40 2006 X-Original-To: majordomo-users@greatcircle.com Received: from hotmail.com (bay108-f21.bay108.hotmail.com [65.54.162.31]) by mycroft.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id BD15132C498 for ; Wed, 15 Feb 2006 04:44:02 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Wed, 15 Feb 2006 04:48:21 -0800 Message-ID: Received: from 65.54.162.200 by by108fd.bay108.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Wed, 15 Feb 2006 12:48:21 GMT X-Originating-IP: [216.130.219.119] X-Originating-Email: [lukeshannon@hotmail.com] X-Sender: lukeshannon@hotmail.com From: "Luke Shannon" To: majordomo-users@greatcircle.com Subject: Using Majordomo to manage an existing list Date: Wed, 15 Feb 2006 12:48:21 +0000 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed X-OriginalArrivalTime: 15 Feb 2006 12:48:21.0587 (UTC) FILETIME=[1A2FEA30:01C6322E] X-Archive-Number: 200602/18 X-Sequence-Number: 5318 Hello; We have a set of mailing list we are currently managing with our own application. There are about 90 lists representing 90 vendors. Vendors hold events with varying frequency. We give our clients the option to sign up for a mailing list(s) informing them of upcoming events. There is an existing java program which sends outs out the emails 5 days before an event. I would like Majordomo to handle subscribing and unsubscribing of users to our 90 lists (they are stored in a mySQL DB). I don't want Majordomo to anything other than manage the adding and removing of email addresses from a mySQL DB. The existing program will continue send out the mails. Can this easily be done with Majordomo? Will I have to change our database of users to a different format? Thanks, Luke From majordomo-users-owner@greatcircle.com Wed Feb 15 05:32:57 2006 X-Original-To: majordomo-users@greatcircle.com Received: from wvmler1.mail.xerox.com (wvmler1.mail.xerox.com [13.8.138.216]) by mycroft.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 79E7B32C3F1 for ; Wed, 15 Feb 2006 05:20:43 -0800 (PST) Received: from wvmlir2.mail.xerox.com (wvmlir2.mail.xerox.com [13.147.8.222]) by wvmler1.mail.xerox.com (8.13.4/8.13.1) with ESMTP id k1FDQ14l022766; Wed, 15 Feb 2006 05:26:02 -0800 Received: from wvmlir2.mail.xerox.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by wvmlir2.mail.xerox.com (8.13.4/8.13.1) with ESMTP id k1FDP9kR012781; Wed, 15 Feb 2006 05:25:10 -0800 Received: from usa0300gw02.na.xerox.net (usa0300gw02.na.xerox.net [13.129.0.42]) by wvmlir2.mail.xerox.com (8.13.4/8.13.1) with ESMTP id k1FDOhA5012414; Wed, 15 Feb 2006 05:25:09 -0800 Received: from usa0300ms02.na.xerox.net ([13.135.34.11]) by usa0300gw02.na.xerox.net with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.211); Wed, 15 Feb 2006 08:25:01 -0500 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5.7226.0 Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: Re: Using Majordomo to manage an existing list Date: Wed, 15 Feb 2006 08:25:01 -0500 Message-ID: X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: Using Majordomo to manage an existing list Thread-Index: AcYyMJwRZR1Ao8XlQGKd3NzUIO4g7AAAjyHgAAART7A= From: "Doty, Robert" To: "Doty, Robert" , "Luke Shannon" , , X-OriginalArrivalTime: 15 Feb 2006 13:25:01.0383 (UTC) FILETIME=[395E2570:01C63233] X-Archive-Number: 200602/19 X-Sequence-Number: 5319 Oops. This was meant to be a reply to the "Group Members Lost" posting. Sorry. Rob =20 G. Robert Doty MCD Integration Manager XOG / SEBU / MCD Xerox Corporation Phone: 585-427-3681 Robert.Doty@xerox.com "This e-mail message, including any attachments, is for the sole use of the intended recipient(s) and may contain confidential information. Any unauthorized review, use, disclosure or distribution is prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient(s) please contact the sender by reply e-mail and destroy all copies of the original message. Finally, the recipient should check that this email is authentic and examine it for the presence of viruses. Xerox does perform virus checks but cannot accept liability for any damage caused by any virus transmitted by this email. Thank you." =20=20=20=20=20=20=20 -----Original Message----- From: Doty, Robert=20 Sent: Wednesday, February 15, 2006 8:23 AM To: 'Luke Shannon'; majordomo-users@greatcircle.com Subject: RE: Using Majordomo to manage an existing list I have seen this, but it was after I customized the majordomo scripts. I fixed my bug and have not seen it since. It happened for me when multiple subscribe/unsubscribe requests came in all at once. Thanks, Rob =20 G. Robert Doty MCD Integration Manager XOG / SEBU / MCD Xerox Corporation Phone: 585-427-3681 Robert.Doty@xerox.com "This e-mail message, including any attachments, is for the sole use of the intended recipient(s) and may contain confidential information. Any unauthorized review, use, disclosure or distribution is prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient(s) please contact the sender by reply e-mail and destroy all copies of the original message. Finally, the recipient should check that this email is authentic and examine it for the presence of viruses. Xerox does perform virus checks but cannot accept liability for any damage caused by any virus transmitted by this email. Thank you." =20=20=20=20=20=20=20 -----Original Message----- From: majordomo-users-owner@greatcircle.com [mailto:majordomo-users-owner@greatcircle.com] On Behalf Of Luke Shannon Sent: Wednesday, February 15, 2006 7:48 AM To: majordomo-users@greatcircle.com Subject: Using Majordomo to manage an existing list Hello; We have a set of mailing list we are currently managing with our own=20 application. There are about 90 lists representing 90 vendors. Vendors hold=20 events with varying frequency. We give our clients the option to sign up for=20 a mailing list(s) informing them of upcoming events. There is an existing java program which sends outs out the emails 5 days before an event. I would like Majordomo to handle subscribing and unsubscribing of users to=20 our 90 lists (they are stored in a mySQL DB). I don't want Majordomo to=20 anything other than manage the adding and removing of email addresses from a=20 mySQL DB. The existing program will continue send out the mails. Can this=20 easily be done with Majordomo? Will I have to change our database of users=20 to a different format? Thanks, Luke From majordomo-users-owner@greatcircle.com Wed Feb 15 08:24:17 2006 X-Original-To: Majordomo-Users@GreatCircle.COM Received: from hermes.jjbedmonton.com (unknown [209.148.223.55]) by mycroft.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C17FA32C506 for ; Wed, 15 Feb 2006 08:10:10 -0800 (PST) Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----_=_NextPart_001_01C6324C.1C3C8263" Subject: Restricted Post X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5 Date: Wed, 15 Feb 2006 09:22:32 -0700 Message-ID: <7FF2B7C0F7F80A4FA7D2B704A7864D8022BDA4@hermes.jjbedmonton.com> X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: Restricted Post Thread-Index: AcYyTAW9CGzsSB8/RFGnj9i+y06aGg== From: "Daniel Kaliel" To: X-Archive-Number: 200602/20 X-Sequence-Number: 5320 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------_=_NextPart_001_01C6324C.1C3C8263 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I have our configured such that only users listed in mylist.posters can submit an email to the list. If someone outside of that list attempts to post a BOUNCE message is sent to the list owner. That works and is fine. However no message is sent back to the original poster. Is there anyway to have a message sent back to them saying "You are uneligable to post to this list." or something along those line? ------_=_NextPart_001_01C6324C.1C3C8263 Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
I have ou= r=20 configured such that only users listed in mylist.posters can submit an emai= l to=20 the list.  If someone outside of that list attempts to post a BOUNCE= =20 message is sent to the list owner.  That works and is fine.  Howe= ver=20 no message is sent back to the original poster.  Is there anyway to ha= ve a=20 message sent back to them saying "You are uneligable to post to this list."= or=20 something along those line?
------_=_NextPart_001_01C6324C.1C3C8263-- From majordomo-users-owner@greatcircle.com Wed Feb 15 08:33:25 2006 X-Original-To: Majordomo-Users@greatcircle.com Received: from wbmler1.mail.xerox.com (wbmler1.mail.xerox.com [13.13.138.216]) by mycroft.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 384B232C446 for ; Wed, 15 Feb 2006 08:32:02 -0800 (PST) Received: from wbmlir1.mail.xerox.com (wbmlir1.mail.xerox.com [13.131.8.221]) by wbmler1.mail.xerox.com (8.13.4/8.13.1) with ESMTP id k1FGj3YM002115; Wed, 15 Feb 2006 11:45:10 -0500 Received: from wbmlir1.mail.xerox.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by wbmlir1.mail.xerox.com (8.13.4/8.13.1) with ESMTP id k1FGijK6006944; Wed, 15 Feb 2006 11:44:45 -0500 Received: from usa7061gw02.na.xerox.net (usa7061gw02.na.xerox.net [13.151.32.4]) by wbmlir1.mail.xerox.com (8.13.4/8.13.1) with ESMTP id k1FGifmd006912; Wed, 15 Feb 2006 11:44:43 -0500 Received: from usa0300ms02.na.xerox.net ([13.135.34.11]) by usa7061gw02.na.xerox.net with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.211); Wed, 15 Feb 2006 08:44:31 -0800 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5.7226.0 Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----_=_NextPart_001_01C6324F.17BF2CCA" Subject: Re: Restricted Post Date: Wed, 15 Feb 2006 11:44:31 -0500 Message-ID: X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: Restricted Post Thread-Index: AcYyTAW9CGzsSB8/RFGnj9i+y06aGgAAtQZg From: "Doty, Robert" To: "Daniel Kaliel" , X-OriginalArrivalTime: 15 Feb 2006 16:44:31.0202 (UTC) FILETIME=[17EF9420:01C6324F] X-Archive-Number: 200602/21 X-Sequence-Number: 5321 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------_=_NextPart_001_01C6324F.17BF2CCA Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable This might not be a good idea because then spammers will know that they have reached a good e-mail account and may try to spoof a valid account to gain access. It could be easily done with a minor script change to majordomo. =20 Thanks, =20 Rob =20 =20 G. Robert Doty MCD Integration Manager XOG / SEBU / MCD Xerox Corporation Phone: 585-427-3681 Robert.Doty@xerox.com "This e-mail message, including any attachments, is for the sole use of the intended recipient(s) and may contain confidential information. Any unauthorized review, use, disclosure or distribution is prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient(s) please contact the sender by reply e-mail and destroy all copies of the original message. Finally, the recipient should check that this email is authentic and examine it for the presence of viruses. Xerox does perform virus checks but cannot accept liability for any damage caused by any virus transmitted by this email. Thank you." =20=20=20=20=20=20=20 =20 ________________________________ From: majordomo-users-owner@greatcircle.com [mailto:majordomo-users-owner@greatcircle.com] On Behalf Of Daniel Kaliel Sent: Wednesday, February 15, 2006 11:23 AM To: Majordomo-Users@greatcircle.com Subject: Restricted Post I have our configured such that only users listed in mylist.posters can submit an email to the list. If someone outside of that list attempts to post a BOUNCE message is sent to the list owner. That works and is fine. However no message is sent back to the original poster. Is there anyway to have a message sent back to them saying "You are uneligable to post to this list." or something along those line? ------_=_NextPart_001_01C6324F.17BF2CCA Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
This might not be a good idea because then spammer= s will=20 know that they have reached a good e-mail account and may try to spoof a va= lid=20 account to gain access.  It could be easily done with a minor script c= hange=20 to majordomo.
 
Thanks,
 
Rob
 
 



G. Robert Doty
MCD Integration Manager
XOG / = SEBU /=20 MCD
Xerox Corporation
Phone:=20 585-427-3681
Robert.Doty@xerox.com

     =   =20 "This e-mail message, including any attachments, is for the sole use of the= =20 intended recipient(s) and may contain confidential information. Any unautho= rized=20 review, use, disclosure or distribution is prohibited. If you are not the= =20 intended recipient(s) please contact the sender by reply e-mail and destroy= all=20 copies of the original message. Finally, the recipient should check that th= is=20 email is authentic and examine it for the presence of viruses. Xerox does= =20 perform virus checks but cannot accept liability for any damage caused by a= ny=20 virus transmitted by this email. Thank=20 you."

       


 

From: majordomo-users-owner@greatcircle= .com=20 [mailto:majordomo-users-owner@greatcircle.com] On Behalf Of Daniel= =20 Kaliel
Sent: Wednesday, February 15, 2006 11:23 AM
To:= =20 Majordomo-Users@greatcircle.com
Subject: Restricted=20 Post

I have ou= r=20 configured such that only users listed in mylist.posters can submit an emai= l to=20 the list.  If someone outside of that list attempts to post a BOUNCE= =20 message is sent to the list owner.  That works and is fine.  Howe= ver=20 no message is sent back to the original poster.  Is there anyway to ha= ve a=20 message sent back to them saying "You are uneligable to post to this list."= or=20 something along those line?
------_=_NextPart_001_01C6324F.17BF2CCA-- From majordomo-users-owner@greatcircle.com Wed Feb 15 09:01:49 2006 X-Original-To: Majordomo-Users@greatcircle.com Received: from wrenkasky.com (esson.net [216.102.129.43]) by mycroft.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 946B632C19E for ; Wed, 15 Feb 2006 09:00:21 -0800 (PST) Received: from KASKY.esson.net (kasky.priority.usc.edu [128.125.63.85]) (authenticated bits=0) by wrenkasky.com (8.13.5/8.13.5) with ESMTP id k1FH0Fe4000428 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NOT); Wed, 15 Feb 2006 09:00:21 -0800 Message-Id: <7.0.1.0.2.20060215085927.021845b0@esson.net> X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 7.0.1.0 Date: Wed, 15 Feb 2006 09:00:08 -0800 To: "Daniel Kaliel" , From: Ed Kasky Subject: Re: Restricted Post In-Reply-To: <7FF2B7C0F7F80A4FA7D2B704A7864D8022BDA4@hermes.jjbedmonton. com> References: <7FF2B7C0F7F80A4FA7D2B704A7864D8022BDA4@hermes.jjbedmonton.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="=====================_501718803==.ALT" Received-SPF: pass (wrenkasky.com: 128.125.63.85 is authenticated by a trusted mechanism) X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV 0.88/1289/Tue Feb 14 06:36:44 2006 on yoda2.wrenkasky.com X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Archive-Number: 200602/22 X-Sequence-Number: 5322 --=====================_501718803==.ALT Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed At 08:22 AM Wednesday, 2/15/2006, Daniel Kaliel wrote -=> >I have our configured such that only users listed in mylist.posters >can submit an email to the list. If someone outside of that list >attempts to post a BOUNCE message is sent to the list owner. That >works and is fine. However no message is sent back to the original >poster. Is there anyway to have a message sent back to them saying >"You are uneligable to post to this list." or something along those line? For each list.config: # non_member_bounce [enum] () /;sender;sender-owner/ # One of three values: blank, sender, or sender-owner. If left # blank the message is bounced to the list owner. Sender allows # the sender to be notified in addition to the owner receiving the # bounced message. Sender-owner causes the sender to be notified, # but not the owner. non_member_bounce = Ed Kasky ~~~~~~~~~ Randomly Generated Quote (28 of 498): "Baseball is 90% mental. The other half is physical." -- Yogi Berra --=====================_501718803==.ALT Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" At 08:22 AM Wednesday, 2/15/2006, Daniel Kaliel wrote -=>
I have our configured such that only users listed in mylist.posters can submit an email to the list.  If someone outside of that list attempts to post a BOUNCE message is sent to the list owner.  That works and is fine.  However no message is sent back to the original poster.  Is there anyway to have a message sent back to them saying "You are uneligable to post to this list." or something along those line?


For each list.config:

        # non_member_bounce    [enum] () <resend> /;sender;sender-owner/
        # One of three values: blank, sender, or sender-owner.  If left
        # blank the message is bounced to the list owner.  Sender allows
        # the sender to be notified in addition to the owner receiving the
        # bounced message. Sender-owner causes the sender to be notified,
        # but not the owner.
non_member_bounce   =

Ed Kasky
~~~~~~~~~
Randomly Generated Quote (28 of 498):
"Baseball is 90% mental. The other half is physical."
        -- Yogi Berra
 --=====================_501718803==.ALT-- From majordomo-users-owner@greatcircle.com Wed Feb 15 11:47:47 2006 X-Original-To: Majordomo-Users@greatcircle.com Received: from hermes.jjbedmonton.com (unknown [209.148.223.55]) by mycroft.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D8ACF32C176 for ; Wed, 15 Feb 2006 11:47:44 -0800 (PST) Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----_=_NextPart_001_01C63268.B91B3DE3" Subject: Final Question X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5 Date: Wed, 15 Feb 2006 12:48:04 -0700 Message-ID: <7FF2B7C0F7F80A4FA7D2B704A7864D8022BE78@hermes.jjbedmonton.com> X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: Final Question Thread-Index: AcYyaLyb6q9F+0fxTS6QvPqqM68Rhw== From: "Daniel Kaliel" To: X-Archive-Number: 200602/23 X-Sequence-Number: 5323 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------_=_NextPart_001_01C63268.B91B3DE3 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable The list works great thank to everyone. I already told my boss "no" but he asked that I ask the qroup anyways. His question was this. =20 Is there a way to send an email to a list and have it exclude a few people on the list from getting the message? I like to send out property information on the list, but sometimes there are a few people I don't want the informtion to go to. ------_=_NextPart_001_01C63268.B91B3DE3 Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

The list = works great=20 thank to everyone.  I already told my boss "no" but he asked that I as= k the=20 qroup anyways.  His question was this.
 
Is there = a way to=20 send an email to a list and have it exclude a few people on the list from= =20 getting the message?  I like to send out property information on the l= ist,=20 but sometimes there are a few people I don't want the informtion to go=20 to.
------_=_NextPart_001_01C63268.B91B3DE3-- From majordomo-users-owner@greatcircle.com Wed Feb 15 13:28:34 2006 X-Original-To: Majordomo-Users@greatcircle.com Received: from saturn.syslang.net (saturn.syslang.net [207.172.210.41]) by mycroft.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 066E632C3A7 for ; Wed, 15 Feb 2006 13:28:27 -0800 (PST) Received: from saturn.syslang.net (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by saturn.syslang.net (8.13.4/8.13.4) with ESMTP id k1FLSPAu003860; Wed, 15 Feb 2006 16:28:26 -0500 Received: from localhost (steveo@localhost) by saturn.syslang.net (8.13.4/8.13.4/Submit) with ESMTP id k1FLSPOB003855; Wed, 15 Feb 2006 16:28:25 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: saturn.syslang.net: steveo owned process doing -bs Date: Wed, 15 Feb 2006 16:28:25 -0500 (EST) From: "Steven W. Orr" To: Daniel Kaliel Cc: Majordomo-Users@greatcircle.com Subject: Re: Final Question In-Reply-To: <7FF2B7C0F7F80A4FA7D2B704A7864D8022BE78@hermes.jjbedmonton.com> Message-ID: References: <7FF2B7C0F7F80A4FA7D2B704A7864D8022BE78@hermes.jjbedmonton.com> Organization: SysLang MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Archive-Number: 200602/24 X-Sequence-Number: 5324 On Wednesday, Feb 15th 2006 at 12:48 -0700, quoth Daniel Kaliel: =>The list works great thank to everyone. I already told my boss "no" but =>he asked that I ask the qroup anyways. His question was this. => =>Is there a way to send an email to a list and have it exclude a few =>people on the list from getting the message? I like to send out =>property information on the list, but sometimes there are a few people I =>don't want the informtion to go to. => Sure. Edit the subscriber list, send your message, and then restore the subscriber list. And in the meanwhile hope that someone else doesn't want to send a message to the same list. Or, create L1 which is the list minus the badguys and L2 which is the badguys. Then create L3 which is subscribed by only L1 and L2. Sending to L3 will send to both and when you want to send to just L1 then just send it to L1. -- Time flies like the wind. Fruit flies like a banana. Stranger things have .0. happened but none stranger than this. Does your driver's license say Organ ..0 Donor?Black holes are where God divided by zero. Listen to me! We are all- 000 individuals! What if this weren't a hypothetical question? steveo at syslang.net From majordomo-users-owner@greatcircle.com Wed Feb 15 13:36:47 2006 X-Original-To: Majordomo-Users@greatcircle.com Received: from rwcrmhc12.comcast.net (rwcrmhc12.comcast.net [204.127.192.82]) by mycroft.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3080532C393 for ; Wed, 15 Feb 2006 13:36:28 -0800 (PST) Received: from xp (unknown[69.142.225.2]) by comcast.net (rwcrmhc12) with SMTP id <20060215213626m1200qlmqoe>; Wed, 15 Feb 2006 21:36:27 +0000 Message-ID: <073701c63277$e4bcbff0$6401a8c0@xp> From: "hilbro" To: References: <7FF2B7C0F7F80A4FA7D2B704A7864D8022BE78@hermes.jjbedmonton.com> Subject: Re: Final Question Date: Wed, 15 Feb 2006 16:36:33 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2670 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2670 X-Archive-Number: 200602/25 X-Sequence-Number: 5325 It's a lot easier to just set the specific bad guys to nomail (file away a multiple command message template and just tack on the addresses for each particular exclusion) for the one posting you don't want them to receive and then set them back to mail afterward. They receive no indication of the brief lapse and you don't run the risk of dumping anyone else by mistake. Hilary ----- Original Message ----- From: "Steven W. Orr" To: "Daniel Kaliel" Cc: Sent: Wednesday, February 15, 2006 4:28 PM Subject: Re: Final Question > On Wednesday, Feb 15th 2006 at 12:48 -0700, quoth Daniel Kaliel: > > =>The list works great thank to everyone. I already told my boss "no" but > =>he asked that I ask the qroup anyways. His question was this. > => > =>Is there a way to send an email to a list and have it exclude a few > =>people on the list from getting the message? I like to send out > =>property information on the list, but sometimes there are a few people I > =>don't want the informtion to go to. > => > > Sure. Edit the subscriber list, send your message, and then restore the > subscriber list. And in the meanwhile hope that someone else doesn't want > to send a message to the same list. > > Or, create L1 which is the list minus the badguys and L2 which is the > badguys. Then create L3 which is subscribed by only L1 and L2. Sending to > L3 will send to both and when you want to send to just L1 then just send > it to L1. > > -- > Time flies like the wind. Fruit flies like a banana. Stranger things have > .0. > happened but none stranger than this. Does your driver's license say Organ > ..0 > Donor?Black holes are where God divided by zero. Listen to me! We are all- > 000 > individuals! What if this weren't a hypothetical question? > steveo at syslang.net > From majordomo-users-owner@greatcircle.com Wed Feb 15 13:42:24 2006 X-Original-To: Majordomo-Users@greatcircle.com Received: from mail.emacolet.com (mail.emacolet.com [66.166.78.87]) by mycroft.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0BF6F32C210 for ; Wed, 15 Feb 2006 13:42:10 -0800 (PST) Received: from akelalt (c-67-181-54-30.hsd1.ca.comcast.net [67.181.54.30]) (authenticated bits=0) by mail.emacolet.com (8.13.5/8.13.5) with ESMTP id k1FLg9DO000600; Wed, 15 Feb 2006 13:42:09 -0800 Message-Id: <200602152142.k1FLg9DO000600@mail.emacolet.com> Reply-To: From: "Peter P. Benac" To: "'hilbro'" , Subject: Re: Final Question Date: Wed, 15 Feb 2006 13:42:03 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook, Build 11.0.5510 In-Reply-To: <073701c63277$e4bcbff0$6401a8c0@xp> Thread-Index: AcYyd/bQE68pgPxkSnyxk0aDmufISwAAIQEQ X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2670 X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.53 on 192.168.0.153 X-Archive-Number: 200602/26 X-Sequence-Number: 5326 Hilary, That requires the enhanced version that you are using and Daniel is not... The version of MD you have come to love is not readily available to the general public. Pete ---- Peter P. Benac, CCNA Emacolet Networking Services, Inc Providing Network and Systems Project Management and Installation and Web Hosting. Phone: 919-618-2557 Web: http://www.emacolet.com Need quick reliable Systems or Network Management advice visit http://www.nmsusers.org To have principles... First have courage.. With principles comes integrity!!! > -----Original Message----- > From: majordomo-users-owner@greatcircle.com > [mailto:majordomo-users-owner@greatcircle.com] On Behalf Of hilbro > Sent: Wednesday, February 15, 2006 13:37 > To: Majordomo-Users@greatcircle.com > Subject: Re: Final Question > > It's a lot easier to just set the specific bad guys to nomail > (file away a > multiple command message template and just tack on the > addresses for each > particular exclusion) for the one posting you don't want them > to receive and > then set them back to mail afterward. They receive no > indication of the brief > lapse and you don't run the risk of dumping anyone else by mistake. > > Hilary > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Steven W. Orr" > To: "Daniel Kaliel" > Cc: > Sent: Wednesday, February 15, 2006 4:28 PM > Subject: Re: Final Question > > > > On Wednesday, Feb 15th 2006 at 12:48 -0700, quoth Daniel Kaliel: > > > > =>The list works great thank to everyone. I already told > my boss "no" but > > =>he asked that I ask the qroup anyways. His question was this. > > => > > =>Is there a way to send an email to a list and have it > exclude a few > > =>people on the list from getting the message? I like to send out > > =>property information on the list, but sometimes there are > a few people I > > =>don't want the informtion to go to. > > => > > > > Sure. Edit the subscriber list, send your message, and then > restore the > > subscriber list. And in the meanwhile hope that someone > else doesn't want > > to send a message to the same list. > > > > Or, create L1 which is the list minus the badguys and L2 > which is the > > badguys. Then create L3 which is subscribed by only L1 and > L2. Sending to > > L3 will send to both and when you want to send to just L1 > then just send > > it to L1. > > > > -- > > Time flies like the wind. Fruit flies like a banana. > Stranger things have > > .0. > > happened but none stranger than this. Does your driver's > license say Organ > > ..0 > > Donor?Black holes are where God divided by zero. Listen to > me! We are all- > > 000 > > individuals! What if this weren't a hypothetical question? > > steveo at syslang.net > > > From majordomo-users-owner@greatcircle.com Wed Feb 15 13:48:12 2006 X-Original-To: Majordomo-Users@greatcircle.com Received: from rwcrmhc12.comcast.net (rwcrmhc12.comcast.net [204.127.192.82]) by mycroft.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0F02C32C475 for ; Wed, 15 Feb 2006 13:47:12 -0800 (PST) Received: from xp (unknown[69.142.225.2]) by comcast.net (rwcrmhc12) with SMTP id <20060215214710m1200qm1sse>; Wed, 15 Feb 2006 21:47:11 +0000 Message-ID: <076201c63279$64c71c80$6401a8c0@xp> From: "hilbro" To: , References: <200602152142.k1FLg9DO000600@mail.emacolet.com> Subject: Re: Final Question Date: Wed, 15 Feb 2006 16:47:17 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2670 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2670 X-Archive-Number: 200602/27 X-Sequence-Number: 5327 "Peter P. Benac" wrote: > Hilary, > That requires the enhanced version that you are using and Daniel is > not... The version of MD you have come to love is not readily available to > the general public. Then they should sign up for yours. I escaped from a couple of other alleged Majordomo hosts with dreadfully restrictive programs. Now I won't leave home without my enhancements ;-). Hilary From majordomo-users-owner@greatcircle.com Wed Feb 15 19:40:05 2006 X-Original-To: Majordomo-Users@greatcircle.com Received: from mailbox.onlinepolicy.net (mailbox.onlinepolicy.net [64.62.161.194]) by mycroft.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 491F332C3CE for ; Wed, 15 Feb 2006 19:40:03 -0800 (PST) Received: from [192.168.1.112] (CPE0002b3917214-CM0011aec5dab4.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com [70.29.90.21]) by mailbox.onlinepolicy.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id CF33E747F7; Wed, 15 Feb 2006 19:39:58 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <43F3F40C.6060804@queernet.org> Date: Wed, 15 Feb 2006 19:39:56 -0800 From: "Roger B.A. Klorese" User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5 (Windows/20051201) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: hilbro Cc: ppbenac@emacolet.com, Majordomo-Users@greatcircle.com Subject: Re: Final Question References: <200602152142.k1FLg9DO000600@mail.emacolet.com> <076201c63279$64c71c80$6401a8c0@xp> In-Reply-To: <076201c63279$64c71c80$6401a8c0@xp> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Archive-Number: 200602/28 X-Sequence-Number: 5328 hilbro wrote: > Then they should sign up for yours. I escaped from a couple of other > alleged Majordomo hosts with dreadfully restrictive programs. Now I > won't leave home without my enhancements ;-). Well, the problem is: - theirs is "majordomo" -- his is "someone's private extensions to majordomo" - most of us don't "sign up" for something -- we run our own systems From majordomo-users-owner@greatcircle.com Wed Feb 15 19:51:05 2006 X-Original-To: Majordomo-Users@greatcircle.com Received: from sccrmhc11.comcast.net (sccrmhc11.comcast.net [63.240.77.81]) by mycroft.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3068332C393 for ; Wed, 15 Feb 2006 19:50:37 -0800 (PST) Received: from xp (unknown[69.142.225.2]) by comcast.net (sccrmhc11) with SMTP id <20060216035035011000kti5e>; Thu, 16 Feb 2006 03:50:36 +0000 Message-ID: <03a101c632ac$29baa7a0$6401a8c0@xp> From: "hilbro" To: References: <200602152142.k1FLg9DO000600@mail.emacolet.com> <076201c63279$64c71c80$6401a8c0@xp> <43F3F40C.6060804@queernet.org> Subject: Re: Final Question Date: Wed, 15 Feb 2006 22:50:43 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=response Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2670 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2670 X-Archive-Number: 200602/29 X-Sequence-Number: 5329 "Roger B.A. Klorese" wrote: > hilbro wrote: >> Then they should sign up for yours. I escaped from a couple of other >> alleged Majordomo hosts with dreadfully restrictive programs. Now I won't >> leave home without my enhancements ;-). > > Well, the problem is: > - theirs is "majordomo" -- his is "someone's private extensions to > majordomo" > - most of us don't "sign up" for something -- we run our own systems I understand that. I was just trying (apparently unsuccessfully) to be funny. However, I hadn't realized that the nomail element of the config is a private extension. It's been a component of the last three Majordomo hosts I've contracted with over the past 8 or 9 years, leading me to believe that it's pretty available to anyone running a Majordomo program. But I stand corrected and apologize for giving a suggestion that wasn't viable. Hilary From majordomo-users-owner@greatcircle.com Wed Feb 15 19:56:57 2006 X-Original-To: Majordomo-Users@greatcircle.com Received: from mailbox.onlinepolicy.net (mailbox.onlinepolicy.net [64.62.161.194]) by mycroft.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D47A232C3CA for ; Wed, 15 Feb 2006 19:56:30 -0800 (PST) Received: from [192.168.1.112] (CPE0002b3917214-CM0011aec5dab4.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com [70.29.90.21]) by mailbox.onlinepolicy.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5DF0F7427D; Wed, 15 Feb 2006 19:56:31 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <43F3F7ED.4090407@queernet.org> Date: Wed, 15 Feb 2006 19:56:29 -0800 From: "Roger B.A. Klorese" User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5 (Windows/20051201) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: hilbro Cc: Majordomo-Users@greatcircle.com Subject: Re: Final Question References: <200602152142.k1FLg9DO000600@mail.emacolet.com> <076201c63279$64c71c80$6401a8c0@xp> <43F3F40C.6060804@queernet.org> <03a101c632ac$29baa7a0$6401a8c0@xp> In-Reply-To: <03a101c632ac$29baa7a0$6401a8c0@xp> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Archive-Number: 200602/30 X-Sequence-Number: 5330 hilbro wrote: > I understand that. I was just trying (apparently unsuccessfully) to > be funny. However, I hadn't realized that the nomail element of the > config is a private extension. It's been a component of the last > three Majordomo hosts I've contracted with over the past 8 or 9 years, > leading me to believe that it's pretty available to anyone running a > Majordomo program. But I stand corrected and apologize for giving a > suggestion that wasn't viable. It's a feature of Majordomo 2, a total rewrite that has never been "released" but has been used in production for five or more years. It's also been done in several different custom versions. From majordomo-users-owner@greatcircle.com Mon Feb 20 09:17:46 2006 X-Original-To: Majordomo-Users@greatcircle.com Received: from mx2.speakeasy.net (mx2-1.speakeasy.net [69.17.117.52]) by mycroft.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E79DF2786A6 for ; Mon, 20 Feb 2006 09:04:54 -0800 (PST) Received: (qmail 5537 invoked from network); 17 Feb 2006 14:45:55 -0000 Received: by simscan 1.1.0 ppid: 11654, pid: 12881, t: 0.1022s scanners: clamav: 0.84/m:31/d:886 Received: from sccrmhc11.comcast.net ([204.127.200.81]) (envelope-sender ) by mx2.speakeasy.net (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP for ; 17 Feb 2006 14:45:55 -0000 Received: from [192.168.1.100] (c-24-91-5-158.hsd1.ma.comcast.net[24.91.5.158]) by comcast.net (sccrmhc11) with ESMTP id <20060217144436011000hb5le>; Fri, 17 Feb 2006 14:44:41 +0000 Message-ID: <43F5E154.5040302@bpecreative.com> Date: Fri, 17 Feb 2006 09:44:36 -0500 From: Bob Cohen User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 0.8 (Macintosh/20040913) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Majordomo-Users@greatcircle.com Subject: MajorDomo Resetting User References: <200602152142.k1FLg9DO000600@mail.emacolet.com> <076201c63279$64c71c80$6401a8c0@xp> <43F3F40C.6060804@queernet.org> In-Reply-To: <43F3F40C.6060804@queernet.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Archive-Number: 200602/31 X-Sequence-Number: 5331 My daily logwatch e-mails contain a listing that I'm curious about: "Authentication warnings: majordomo set sender to Majordomo-Owner@narsil.nbtanet.org using -f: 2 Times(s)" While I've got majordomo installed on this box, it hasn't been used in quite a while. Why would majordomo be resetting the user and (possibly) sending e-mail to anyone? Bob From majordomo-users-owner@greatcircle.com Mon Feb 20 09:21:23 2006 X-Original-To: Majordomo-Users@greatcircle.com Received: from ns.nrns.ca (ns.nrns.ca [216.191.212.230]) by mycroft.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 10E6727860F for ; Mon, 20 Feb 2006 09:06:22 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (fw-dmz.nrns.ca [10.222.222.254]) by ns.nrns.ca (_) with ESMTP id 444A1256C8 for ; Mon, 20 Feb 2006 12:06:23 -0500 (EST) Received: from feline.nrns.ca (feline.nrns.ca [10.111.111.68]) by ns.nrns.ca (_) with ESMTP id 702B525600 for ; Mon, 20 Feb 2006 12:06:22 -0500 (EST) Received: from nrns.ca (host76.nrns.ca [10.111.111.76]) by feline.nrns.ca (Postfix) with ESMTP id 993DA3F427F for ; Mon, 20 Feb 2006 12:06:22 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <43F9F70E.4060800@nrns.ca> Date: Mon, 20 Feb 2006 12:06:22 -0500 From: "Allan P. Magmanlac" User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.4) Gecko/20030624 Netscape/7.1 (ax) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Majordomo-Users@greatcircle.com Subject: Issue with "on behalf of" with outlook Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at nrns.ca X-Archive-Number: 200602/32 X-Sequence-Number: 5332 Hello, I've been using majordomo-1.94.5 and lately users of mircosoft outlook are asking why the "on behalf of" appears on the message of the "From:" line. Any idea what's causing this and how to disable it. Thanks. From majordomo-users-owner@greatcircle.com Mon Feb 20 10:24:35 2006 X-Original-To: Majordomo-Users@greatcircle.com Received: from wbmler2.mail.xerox.com (wbmler2.mail.xerox.com [13.13.138.217]) by mycroft.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6597D2787AB for ; Mon, 20 Feb 2006 09:50:13 -0800 (PST) Received: from wbmlir1.mail.xerox.com (wbmlir1.mail.xerox.com [13.131.8.221]) by wbmler2.mail.xerox.com (8.13.4/8.13.1) with ESMTP id k1KHo3JN025643; Mon, 20 Feb 2006 12:50:12 -0500 Received: from wbmlir1.mail.xerox.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by wbmlir1.mail.xerox.com (8.13.4/8.13.1) with ESMTP id k1KHn41X010403; Mon, 20 Feb 2006 12:49:04 -0500 Received: from usa0300gw02.na.xerox.net (usa0300gw02.na.xerox.net [13.129.0.42]) by wbmlir1.mail.xerox.com (8.13.4/8.13.1) with ESMTP id k1KHmsQs010221; Mon, 20 Feb 2006 12:49:02 -0500 Received: from usa0300ms02.na.xerox.net ([13.135.34.11]) by usa0300gw02.na.xerox.net with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.211); Mon, 20 Feb 2006 12:48:58 -0500 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5.7226.0 Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: Re: Issue with "on behalf of" with outlook Date: Mon, 20 Feb 2006 12:48:59 -0500 Message-ID: X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: Issue with "on behalf of" with outlook Thread-Index: AcY2QnhKSh+uypspSGeyauug0hQ/NQAAwmAg From: "Doty, Robert" To: "Allan P. Magmanlac" , X-OriginalArrivalTime: 20 Feb 2006 17:48:58.0787 (UTC) FILETIME=[ED42F730:01C63645] X-Archive-Number: 200602/33 X-Sequence-Number: 5333 I did this with a script change to "resend". What I did was parse every line and removed every "Sender: ..." entry. This works great for my application of Majordomo but may not work for every implementation based on content. Thanks, Rob G. Robert Doty MCD Integration Manager XOG / SEBU / MCD Xerox Corporation Phone: 585-427-3681 Robert.Doty@xerox.com "This e-mail message, including any attachments, is for the sole use of the intended recipient(s) and may contain confidential information. Any unauthorized review, use, disclosure or distribution is prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient(s) please contact the sender by reply e-mail and destroy all copies of the original message. Finally, the recipient should check that this email is authentic and examine it for the presence of viruses. Xerox does perform virus checks but cannot accept liability for any damage caused by any virus transmitted by this email. Thank you." =20=20=20=20=20=20=20 -----Original Message----- From: majordomo-users-owner@greatcircle.com [mailto:majordomo-users-owner@greatcircle.com] On Behalf Of Allan P. Magmanlac Sent: Monday, February 20, 2006 12:06 PM To: Majordomo-Users@greatcircle.com Subject: Issue with "on behalf of" with outlook Hello, I've been using majordomo-1.94.5 and lately users of mircosoft outlook are asking why the "on behalf of" appears on the message of the "From:" line. Any idea what's causing this and how to disable it. Thanks. From majordomo-users-owner@greatcircle.com Mon Feb 20 14:27:19 2006 X-Original-To: Majordomo-Users@greatcircle.com Received: from mx2.speakeasy.net (mx2-1.speakeasy.net [69.17.117.52]) by mycroft.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 07CA727860B for ; Mon, 20 Feb 2006 14:25:52 -0800 (PST) Received: (qmail 25768 invoked from network); 17 Feb 2006 13:09:39 -0000 Received: by simscan 1.1.0 ppid: 20742, pid: 9806, t: 0.1767s scanners: clamav: 0.84/m:31/d:886 Received: from ns.nrns.ca ([216.191.212.230]) (envelope-sender ) by mx2.speakeasy.net (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP for ; 17 Feb 2006 13:09:39 -0000 Received: from localhost (fw-dmz.nrns.ca [10.222.222.254]) by ns.nrns.ca (_) with ESMTP id 93C7B26CE5 for ; Fri, 17 Feb 2006 08:08:35 -0500 (EST) Received: from feline.nrns.ca (feline.nrns.ca [10.111.111.68]) by ns.nrns.ca (_) with ESMTP id 9DCB92571E for ; Fri, 17 Feb 2006 08:08:34 -0500 (EST) Received: from nrns.ca (host76.nrns.ca [10.111.111.76]) by feline.nrns.ca (Postfix) with ESMTP id C24763F427F for ; Fri, 17 Feb 2006 08:08:34 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <43F5CA59.2060704@nrns.ca> Date: Fri, 17 Feb 2006 08:06:33 -0500 From: "Allan P. Magmanlac" User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.4) Gecko/20030624 Netscape/7.1 (ax) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Majordomo-Users@greatcircle.com Subject: Issue with "on behalf of" with outlook Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at nrns.ca X-Archive-Number: 200602/34 X-Sequence-Number: 5334 Hello, I've been using majordomo-1.94.5 and lately users of mircosoft outlook are asking why the "on behalf of" appears on the message of the "From:" line. Any idea what's causing this and how to disable it. Thanks. From majordomo-users-owner@greatcircle.com Tue Feb 21 09:24:08 2006 X-Original-To: majordomo-users@greatcircle.com Received: from moroni.ourldsfamily.com (ourldsfamily.com [198.60.114.90]) by mycroft.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E04CC27865F for ; Tue, 21 Feb 2006 09:24:07 -0800 (PST) Received: from ourldsfamily.com (eth1 [172.20.20.2]) by moroni.ourldsfamily.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id k1LHNu9D001604 for ; Tue, 21 Feb 2006 10:23:56 -0700 Received: from ats ([207.173.117.242]) (SquirrelMail authenticated user karlp) by ourldsfamily.com with HTTP; Tue, 21 Feb 2006 10:23:56 -0700 (MST) Message-ID: <37724.207.173.117.242.1140542636.squirrel@ourldsfamily.com> Date: Tue, 21 Feb 2006 10:23:56 -0700 (MST) Subject: outgoing address compromised From: karlp@ourldsfamily.com To: "Majordomo Users" User-Agent: SquirrelMail/1.4.4-rc1 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Importance: Normal X-Archive-Number: 200602/35 X-Sequence-Number: 5335 I have 2 issues with the compromise of an outgoing email alias for one of my groups. First, how could someone get that address? I have ,nobody after grpname-outgoing in the list alias. Second, how can I recover so my group members who have poor spam filters don't get the spam? -- karl _/ _/ _/ _/_/_/ ____________ __o _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ ____________ _-\<._ _/_/ _/ _/_/_/ (_)/ (_) _/ _/ _/ _/ ...................... _/ _/ arl _/_/_/ _/ earson KarlP@ourldsfamily.com --- Senior Consulting Sys/DB Analyst http://consulting.ourldsfamily.com --- My Thoughts on Terrorism In America right after 9/11/2001: http://www.ourldsfamily.com/wtc.shtml --- A right is not what someone gives you; it's what no one can take from you. -Ramsey Clark --- From majordomo-users-owner@greatcircle.com Tue Feb 21 09:40:01 2006 X-Original-To: majordomo-users@greatcircle.com Received: from mail.bcpl.net (mail.bcpl.net [204.255.212.10]) by mycroft.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 859A8278683 for ; Tue, 21 Feb 2006 09:38:39 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail.bcpl.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.bcpl.net (8.13.0/8.13.0) with ESMTP id k1LHccsZ028242 for ; Tue, 21 Feb 2006 12:38:38 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (fold@localhost) by mail.bcpl.net (8.13.0/8.13.0/Submit) with ESMTP id k1LHcaHb028228 for ; Tue, 21 Feb 2006 12:38:36 -0500 (EST) X-Authentication-Warning: mail.bcpl.net: fold owned process doing -bs Date: Tue, 21 Feb 2006 12:38:36 -0500 (EST) From: Chip Old X-X-Sender: fold@mail To: Majordomo Users Subject: Re: outgoing address compromised In-Reply-To: <37724.207.173.117.242.1140542636.squirrel@ourldsfamily.com> Message-ID: References: <37724.207.173.117.242.1140542636.squirrel@ourldsfamily.com> X-Organization: BCPL.NET Internet Services X-Complaints-To: abuse@bcpl.net MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Archive-Number: 200602/36 X-Sequence-Number: 5336 On Tue, 21 Feb 2006 10:23 -0700, karlp@ourldsfamily.com wrote: > I have 2 issues with the compromise of an outgoing email alias for one > of my groups. > > First, how could someone get that address? I have ,nobody after > grpname-outgoing in the list alias. The addition of "nobody" to the alias ensures that "grpname-outgoing" doesn't appear in the message header, but you should examine a header to make sure it's working. If not, check how you have the aliase set up, or post all your aliases for "grpname" here so we can see them. > Second, how can I recover so my group members who have poor spam filters > don't get the spam? Assuming you are using sendmail as the MTA, put something like this in your virtusertable: grpname-outgoing@domain.tld error:nouser User unknown Substitute the actual listname and domain name, of course. Sendmail will then reject mail addressed to grpname-outgoing, but this will not stop the alias from working for resend. -- Chip Old (Francis E. Old) E-Mail: fold@bcpl.net BCPL Network Administrator Phone: 410-887-6180 BCPL.NET Internet Services Manager FAX: 410-887-2091 320 York Road Towson, MD 21204-5179 US From majordomo-users-owner@greatcircle.com Tue Feb 21 12:31:27 2006 X-Original-To: majordomo-users@greatcircle.com Received: from moroni.ourldsfamily.com (ourldsfamily.com [198.60.114.90]) by mycroft.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7EF2227867F for ; Tue, 21 Feb 2006 12:31:26 -0800 (PST) Received: from ourldsfamily.com (eth1 [172.20.20.2]) by moroni.ourldsfamily.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id k1LKVP9D015752 for ; Tue, 21 Feb 2006 13:31:25 -0700 Received: from ats ([207.173.117.242]) (SquirrelMail authenticated user karlp) by ourldsfamily.com with HTTP; Tue, 21 Feb 2006 13:31:25 -0700 (MST) Message-ID: <38240.207.173.117.242.1140553885.squirrel@ourldsfamily.com> In-Reply-To: References: <37724.207.173.117.242.1140542636.squirrel@ourldsfamily.com> Date: Tue, 21 Feb 2006 13:31:25 -0700 (MST) Subject: Re: outgoing address compromised From: karlp@ourldsfamily.com To: "Majordomo Users" User-Agent: SquirrelMail/1.4.4-rc1 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Importance: Normal X-Archive-Number: 200602/37 X-Sequence-Number: 5337 On Tue, February 21, 2006 10:38 am, Chip Old said: > On Tue, 21 Feb 2006 10:23 -0700, karlp@ourldsfamily.com wrote: > >> I have 2 issues with the compromise of an outgoing email alias for one >> of my groups. >> >> First, how could someone get that address? I have ,nobody after >> grpname-outgoing in the list alias. > > The addition of "nobody" to the alias ensures that "grpname-outgoing" > doesn't appear in the message header, but you should examine a header to > make sure it's working. If not, check how you have the aliase set up, or > post all your aliases for "grpname" here so we can see them. I have over 100 groups and none of the others have this problem. This is one of the older groups and there was a time when I didn't have ,nobody set up. > >> Second, how can I recover so my group members who have poor spam filters >> don't get the spam? > > Assuming you are using sendmail as the MTA, put something like this in > your virtusertable: > > grpname-outgoing@domain.tld error:nouser User unknown > > Substitute the actual listname and domain name, of course. Sendmail will > then reject mail addressed to grpname-outgoing, but this will not stop the > alias from working for resend. Awesome! I can't believe I didn't think of that. Actually I can... THANKS! Karl > > -- > Chip Old (Francis E. Old) E-Mail: fold@bcpl.net > BCPL Network Administrator Phone: 410-887-6180 > BCPL.NET Internet Services Manager FAX: 410-887-2091 > 320 York Road > Towson, MD 21204-5179 US > From majordomo-users-owner@greatcircle.com Tue Feb 21 12:50:33 2006 X-Original-To: majordomo-users@greatcircle.com Received: from moroni.ourldsfamily.com (ourldsfamily.com [198.60.114.90]) by mycroft.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id F0AF7278675 for ; Tue, 21 Feb 2006 12:50:32 -0800 (PST) Received: from ourldsfamily.com (eth1 [172.20.20.2]) by moroni.ourldsfamily.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id k1LKoW9D016527 for ; Tue, 21 Feb 2006 13:50:32 -0700 Received: from ats ([207.173.117.242]) (SquirrelMail authenticated user karlp) by ourldsfamily.com with HTTP; Tue, 21 Feb 2006 13:50:32 -0700 (MST) Message-ID: <38277.207.173.117.242.1140555032.squirrel@ourldsfamily.com> In-Reply-To: References: <37724.207.173.117.242.1140542636.squirrel@ourldsfamily.com> Date: Tue, 21 Feb 2006 13:50:32 -0700 (MST) Subject: Re: outgoing address compromised From: karlp@ourldsfamily.com To: "Majordomo Users" User-Agent: SquirrelMail/1.4.4-rc1 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Importance: Normal X-Archive-Number: 200602/38 X-Sequence-Number: 5338 On Tue, February 21, 2006 10:38 am, Chip Old said: >> Second, how can I recover so my group members who have poor spam filters >> don't get the spam? > > Assuming you are using sendmail as the MTA, put something like this in > your virtusertable: > > grpname-outgoing@domain.tld error:nouser User unknown I'm getting duplicate alias errors when I do that. How do I get around it without breaking the existing aliases? Here's one of my aliases. The one with the problem (I've indented lines that wrapped for readability): grpname: "|/opt/majordomo-1.94.5/wrapper resend -l grpname grpname-outgoing,nobody" owner-grpname: karlp@ourldsfamily.com, grpname-owner: karlp@ourldsfamily.com, grpname-outgoing: "|/usr/local/bin/bulk_mailer -domain ourldsfamily.com -maxdomains 10 -maxrcpts 6 grpname-owner@ourldsfamily.com /opt/majordomo-1.94.5/lists/grpname", grpname-archiver, grpname-digestify grpname-approval: grpname-owner grpname-archiver: "|/opt/majordomo-1.94.5/wrapper archive2.pl -f /opt/majordomo-1.94.5/archives/grpname/grpname -a -M" grpname-digestify: "|/opt/majordomo-1.94.5/wrapper digest -r -C -l grpname-digest grpname-digest-outgoing," grpname-digest: grpname grpname-owner-digest: grpname-owner grpname-digest-approval: grpname-owner grpname-digest-outgoing: :include:/opt/majordomo-1.94.5/lists/grpname-digest Thanks for your help. Karl From majordomo-users-owner@greatcircle.com Tue Feb 21 14:25:42 2006 X-Original-To: majordomo-users@greatcircle.com Received: from web53615.mail.yahoo.com (web53615.mail.yahoo.com [206.190.39.182]) by mycroft.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with SMTP id 53DEE278687 for ; Tue, 21 Feb 2006 14:25:40 -0800 (PST) Received: (qmail 22920 invoked by uid 60001); 21 Feb 2006 22:25:40 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=VeKf6w94vDHuIFkG0H2EVaGtgWCxyhnzAutE6e0Hpk2GpD+6t3qgurrg+6HO7CzmTOuGdnawRvMgkFsWNelx8LmIV2Bc+KR4eY2nGM1zsFkESE+3SCmolc/v46nUrJ9NO1IuBQekMq8y7/wyBqm4Ugre/edHqvtOGAa+crvhHig= ; Message-ID: <20060221222540.22918.qmail@web53615.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [129.107.2.212] by web53615.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Tue, 21 Feb 2006 14:25:40 PST Date: Tue, 21 Feb 2006 14:25:40 -0800 (PST) From: Chinmay Jayaswal Subject: MAJORDOMO ABORT (mj_resend)!! To: majordomo-users@greatcircle.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0-1481563378-1140560740=:21986" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Archive-Number: 200602/39 X-Sequence-Number: 5339 --0-1481563378-1140560740=:21986 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Hi, I am receiving this error even after I set the permission for /var/tmp to 1777. I dont know what makes the permission change. The error is MAJORDOMO ABORT (mj_resend)!! shlock: '/usr/tmp' is not writable by UID 47 GID 17 Does anyone had similar problems? If yes, then please tell me what did you do to solve it. Thanks in advance. Regards, Chinmay. Regards, Chinmay. --------------------------------- Yahoo! Autos. Looking for a sweet ride? Get pricing, reviews, & more on new and used cars. --0-1481563378-1140560740=:21986 Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit
Hi,
     I am receiving this error even after I set the permission for /var/tmp to 1777. I dont know what makes the permission change. The error is
 
MAJORDOMO ABORT (mj_resend)!!
shlock: '/usr/tmp' is not writable by UID 47 GID 17
 
 Does anyone had similar problems? If yes, then please tell me what did you do to solve it. Thanks in advance.
 
Regards,
Chinmay.



Regards,
      Chinmay.

Yahoo! Autos. Looking for a sweet ride? Get pricing, reviews, & more on new and used cars. --0-1481563378-1140560740=:21986-- From majordomo-users-owner@greatcircle.com Tue Feb 21 16:00:12 2006 X-Original-To: majordomo-users@greatcircle.com Received: from mailbox.onlinepolicy.net (mailbox.onlinepolicy.net [64.62.161.194]) by mycroft.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 50852278684 for ; Tue, 21 Feb 2006 16:00:12 -0800 (PST) Received: from [192.168.7.102] (c-67-168-99-147.hsd1.wa.comcast.net [67.168.99.147]) by mailbox.onlinepolicy.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7F7EF73171; Tue, 21 Feb 2006 16:00:11 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <43FBAA04.7050604@queernet.org> Date: Tue, 21 Feb 2006 16:02:12 -0800 From: "Roger B.A. Klorese" User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5 (Windows/20051201) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: karlp@ourldsfamily.com Cc: Majordomo Users Subject: Re: outgoing address compromised References: <37724.207.173.117.242.1140542636.squirrel@ourldsfamily.com> <38277.207.173.117.242.1140555032.squirrel@ourldsfamily.com> In-Reply-To: <38277.207.173.117.242.1140555032.squirrel@ourldsfamily.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Archive-Number: 200602/40 X-Sequence-Number: 5340 karlp@ourldsfamily.com wrote: > I'm getting duplicate alias errors when I do that. How do I get around it > without breaking the existing aliases? > By changing your virtusertable, not your aliases. From majordomo-users-owner@greatcircle.com Tue Feb 21 16:01:16 2006 X-Original-To: majordomo-users@greatcircle.com Received: from mailbox.onlinepolicy.net (mailbox.onlinepolicy.net [64.62.161.194]) by mycroft.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9797E278686 for ; Tue, 21 Feb 2006 16:01:16 -0800 (PST) Received: from [192.168.7.102] (c-67-168-99-147.hsd1.wa.comcast.net [67.168.99.147]) by mailbox.onlinepolicy.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 58A6B732A9; Tue, 21 Feb 2006 16:01:16 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <43FBAA45.3000700@queernet.org> Date: Tue, 21 Feb 2006 16:03:17 -0800 From: "Roger B.A. Klorese" User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5 (Windows/20051201) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Chinmay Jayaswal Cc: majordomo-users@greatcircle.com Subject: Re: MAJORDOMO ABORT (mj_resend)!! References: <20060221222540.22918.qmail@web53615.mail.yahoo.com> In-Reply-To: <20060221222540.22918.qmail@web53615.mail.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Archive-Number: 200602/41 X-Sequence-Number: 5341 Chinmay Jayaswal wrote: > Hi, > I am receiving this error even after I set the permission for > /var/tmp to 1777. I dont know what makes the permission change. The > error is > > MAJORDOMO ABORT (mj_resend)!! > shlock: '/usr/tmp' is not writable by UID 47 GID 17 > > Does anyone had similar problems? If yes, then please tell me what > did you do to solve it. Thanks in advance. > Be sure the permissions are correct on /usr/tmp -- unless /usr/tmp == /var/tmp you didn't follow the error message. From majordomo-users-owner@greatcircle.com Tue Feb 21 16:13:43 2006 X-Original-To: majordomo-users@greatcircle.com Received: from mail.bcpl.net (mail.bcpl.net [204.255.212.10]) by mycroft.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 22BEC27868C for ; Tue, 21 Feb 2006 16:13:42 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail.bcpl.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.bcpl.net (8.13.0/8.13.0) with ESMTP id k1M0Db33006102 for ; Tue, 21 Feb 2006 19:13:37 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (fold@localhost) by mail.bcpl.net (8.13.0/8.13.0/Submit) with ESMTP id k1M0DbkG006099 for ; Tue, 21 Feb 2006 19:13:37 -0500 (EST) X-Authentication-Warning: mail.bcpl.net: fold owned process doing -bs Date: Tue, 21 Feb 2006 19:13:37 -0500 (EST) From: Chip Old X-X-Sender: fold@mail To: Majordomo Users Subject: Re: outgoing address compromised In-Reply-To: <38277.207.173.117.242.1140555032.squirrel@ourldsfamily.com> Message-ID: References: <37724.207.173.117.242.1140542636.squirrel@ourldsfamily.com> <38277.207.173.117.242.1140555032.squirrel@ourldsfamily.com> X-Organization: BCPL.NET Internet Services X-Complaints-To: abuse@bcpl.net MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Archive-Number: 200602/42 X-Sequence-Number: 5342 On Tue, 21 Feb 2006 13:50 -0700, karlp@ourldsfamily.com wrote: > On Tue, February 21, 2006 10:38 am, Chip Old said: > >> Assuming you are using sendmail as the MTA, put something like this in >> your virtusertable: >> >> grpname-outgoing@domain.tld error:nouser User unknown > > I'm getting duplicate alias errors when I do that. How do I get around > it without breaking the existing aliases? You get duplicate alias error??? Did you put it in your virtusertable file or in your aliases file? It goes in virtusertable. If putting it in virtusertable causes duplicate alias errors, there is something very strange about your sendmail configuration. -- Chip Old (Francis E. Old) E-Mail: fold@bcpl.net BCPL Network Administrator Phone: 410-887-6180 BCPL.NET Internet Services Manager FAX: 410-887-2091 Baltimore County Public Library 320 York Road Towson, MD 21204-5179 US From majordomo-users-owner@greatcircle.com Tue Feb 21 20:11:33 2006 X-Original-To: majordomo-users@greatcircle.com Received: from web53614.mail.yahoo.com (web53614.mail.yahoo.com [206.190.39.181]) by mycroft.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with SMTP id CABE6278694 for ; Tue, 21 Feb 2006 20:11:32 -0800 (PST) Received: (qmail 47357 invoked by uid 60001); 22 Feb 2006 04:11:31 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=N/OVuD8boXLu6I0rqZRnhgZKIKOTKmXVa15khVR8mIl8MZZpg9ZPGV+ZsQaZucYJfE43lWQxqCFlrJL2KLFF2seFIzQzMilgBXL3ge7aVi9WbgxQb6Q26NvOw4jWwyB2H3l+u/yKCJMc7KWpclO4TPOLDAA3C3ezbo8CnTcBF4s= ; Message-ID: <20060222041131.47355.qmail@web53614.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [70.247.160.196] by web53614.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Tue, 21 Feb 2006 20:11:31 PST Date: Tue, 21 Feb 2006 20:11:31 -0800 (PST) From: Chinmay Jayaswal Subject: Re: MAJORDOMO ABORT (mj_resend)!! To: "Roger B.A. Klorese" Cc: majordomo-users@greatcircle.com In-Reply-To: <43FBAA45.3000700@queernet.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0-1474689424-1140581491=:45718" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Archive-Number: 200602/43 X-Sequence-Number: 5343 --0-1474689424-1140581491=:45718 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Hey Roger, I am so sorry, I forgot to mention that /usr/tmp and /var/tmp have symbolic links, so basically I change the permission of /usr/tmp to 1777 but still, somehow it keeps on giving me the same error message of mj_resend after 2-3 days. Please help me out! Regards, Chinmay. "Roger B.A. Klorese" wrote: Chinmay Jayaswal wrote: > Hi, > I am receiving this error even after I set the permission for > /var/tmp to 1777. I dont know what makes the permission change. The > error is > > MAJORDOMO ABORT (mj_resend)!! > shlock: '/usr/tmp' is not writable by UID 47 GID 17 > > Does anyone had similar problems? If yes, then please tell me what > did you do to solve it. Thanks in advance. > Be sure the permissions are correct on /usr/tmp -- unless /usr/tmp == /var/tmp you didn't follow the error message. Regards, Chinmay. --------------------------------- Yahoo! Mail Use Photomail to share photos without annoying attachments. --0-1474689424-1140581491=:45718 Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit
Hey Roger, I am so sorry, I forgot to mention that /usr/tmp and /var/tmp have symbolic links, so basically I change the permission of /usr/tmp to 1777 but still, somehow it keeps on giving me the same error message of mj_resend after 2-3 days.
 
          Please help me out!
 
Regards,
Chinmay.

"Roger B.A. Klorese" <rogerk@queernet.org> wrote:
Chinmay Jayaswal wrote:
> Hi,
> I am receiving this error even after I set the permission for
> /var/tmp to 1777. I dont know what makes the permission change. The
> error is
>
> MAJORDOMO ABORT (mj_resend)!!
> shlock: '/usr/tmp' is not writable by UID 47 GID 17
>
> Does anyone had similar problems? If yes, then please tell me what
> did you do to solve it. Thanks in advance.
>


Be sure the permissions are correct on /usr/tmp -- unless /usr/tmp ==
/var/tmp you didn't follow the error message.




Regards,
      Chinmay.

Yahoo! Mail
Use Photomail to share photos without annoying attachments. --0-1474689424-1140581491=:45718-- From majordomo-users-owner@greatcircle.com Wed Feb 22 22:14:35 2006 X-Original-To: majordomo-users@greatcircle.com Received: from moroni.ourldsfamily.com (ourldsfamily.com [198.60.114.90]) by mycroft.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 45EF827869A for ; Wed, 22 Feb 2006 22:14:32 -0800 (PST) Received: from webmail.ourldsfamily.com (eth1 [172.20.20.2]) by moroni.ourldsfamily.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id k1N6EUgJ001819 for ; Wed, 22 Feb 2006 23:14:31 -0700 Received: from ourldsfamily.com ([198.60.114.90]) (SquirrelMail authenticated user karlp) by webmail.ourldsfamily.com with HTTP; Wed, 22 Feb 2006 23:14:31 -0700 (MST) Message-ID: <18026.198.60.114.90.1140675271.squirrel@webmail.ourldsfamily.com> In-Reply-To: References: <37724.207.173.117.242.1140542636.squirrel@ourldsfamily.com> <38277.207.173.117.242.1140555032.squirrel@ourldsfamily.com> Date: Wed, 22 Feb 2006 23:14:31 -0700 (MST) Subject: Re: outgoing address compromised From: karlp@ourldsfamily.com To: "Majordomo Users" User-Agent: SquirrelMail/1.4.4-rc1 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Importance: Normal X-Archive-Number: 200602/44 X-Sequence-Number: 5344 On Tue, February 21, 2006 5:13 pm, Chip Old said: > On Tue, 21 Feb 2006 13:50 -0700, karlp@ourldsfamily.com wrote: > >> On Tue, February 21, 2006 10:38 am, Chip Old said: >> >>> Assuming you are using sendmail as the MTA, put something like this in >>> your virtusertable: >>> >>> grpname-outgoing@domain.tld error:nouser User unknown >> >> I'm getting duplicate alias errors when I do that. How do I get around >> it without breaking the existing aliases? > > You get duplicate alias error??? Did you put it in your virtusertable > file or in your aliases file? It goes in virtusertable. If putting it in > virtusertable causes duplicate alias errors, there is something very > strange about your sendmail configuration. Yes, I did read that wrong and have put things in virtusertable. Now it looks like some of the emails sent to the group are bouncing with the message I put in virtusertable. They look correctly sent, but the error says: grpname-outgoing@mydomain.com User unknown... The emails didn't make it to the archives... Karl > > -- > Chip Old (Francis E. Old) E-Mail: fold@bcpl.net > BCPL Network Administrator Phone: 410-887-6180 > BCPL.NET Internet Services Manager FAX: 410-887-2091 > Baltimore County Public Library > 320 York Road > Towson, MD 21204-5179 US > -- karl _/ _/ _/ _/_/_/ ____________ __o _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ ____________ _-\<._ _/_/ _/ _/_/_/ (_)/ (_) _/ _/ _/ _/ ...................... _/ _/ arl _/_/_/ _/ earson KarlP@ourldsfamily.com --- Senior Consulting Sys/DB Analyst http://consulting.ourldsfamily.com --- My Thoughts on Terrorism In America right after 9/11/2001: http://www.ourldsfamily.com/wtc.shtml --- A right is not what someo