From majordomo-users-owner@greatcircle.com Thu Mar 2 10:29:25 2006 X-Original-To: Majordomo-Users@greatcircle.com Received: from NDJSVWS02.ndc.nasa.gov (ndjsvws02.ndc.nasa.gov [198.120.25.82]) by mycroft.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id AF3122787C2 for ; Thu, 2 Mar 2006 10:29:24 -0800 (PST) Received: from ndjsxgw01.ndc.nasa.gov ([129.166.32.111]) by NDJSVWS02.ndc.nasa.gov with InterScan Messaging Security Suite; Thu, 02 Mar 2006 12:30:20 -0600 Received: from NDJSEVS02.ndc.nasa.gov ([129.166.32.52]) by ndjsxgw01.ndc.nasa.gov with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.1830); Thu, 2 Mar 2006 12:29:16 -0600 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5 Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: Maxlength question Date: Thu, 2 Mar 2006 13:29:16 -0500 Message-ID: <2A0944A28C848841B3634C7111043959A996C1@NDJSEVS02.ndc.nasa.gov> X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: Maxlength question Thread-Index: AcY6g0PAzSBnGUCYSYC1O8kZ7TbBDADo7uzg From: "Glashow, Jordan (HQ-LD070)[SAIC]" To: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 02 Mar 2006 18:29:16.0956 (UTC) FILETIME=[36BBC5C0:01C63E27] X-Archive-Number: 200603/1 X-Sequence-Number: 5366 =20 Is there a maximum size for which I can set maxlength to? Thanks, Jordan From majordomo-users-owner@greatcircle.com Fri Mar 3 07:38:14 2006 X-Original-To: Majordomo-Users@greatcircle.com Received: from mail.sonny.com (unknown [70.58.223.141]) by mycroft.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id BCEBC27861C for ; Fri, 3 Mar 2006 07:38:13 -0800 (PST) Received: from [192.168.1.78] (father.sonny.com [192.168.1.78]) by magnia.sonny.com (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 Patch 1 (built Aug 19 2002)) with ESMTP id <0IVK0065M5WBXL@magnia.sonny.com> for Majordomo-Users@greatcircle.com; Fri, 03 Mar 2006 09:33:47 -0600 (CST) Date: Fri, 03 Mar 2006 09:38:26 -0600 From: Daniel Liston Subject: Re: Maxlength question In-reply-to: <2A0944A28C848841B3634C7111043959A996C1@NDJSEVS02.ndc.nasa.gov> To: "Glashow, Jordan (HQ-LD070)[SAIC]" Cc: Majordomo-Users@greatcircle.com Message-id: <440862F2.8020807@sonny.org> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-Accept-Language: en-us, en User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.2) Gecko/20040804 Netscape/7.2 (ax) References: <2A0944A28C848841B3634C7111043959A996C1@NDJSEVS02.ndc.nasa.gov> X-Archive-Number: 200603/2 X-Sequence-Number: 5367 Glashow, Jordan wrote: > > Is there a maximum size for which I can set maxlength to? How high would you like to set it? I have never set mine larger than 4 megs, but I see no reason it could not go as high as 1 gig. Keep in mind, your network, your mailqueue, and your CPU(s) may suffer as a result of a poorly thought out setting. If you need to transmit email larger than a few Kbytes, you would be better off setting those bits on an ftp or web site, and just including a link to them in your email. Dan Liston From majordomo-users-owner@greatcircle.com Fri Mar 3 09:41:34 2006 X-Original-To: Majordomo-Users@GreatCircle.COM Received: from wale.mainframe.ca (wale.mainframe.ca [209.17.131.74]) by mycroft.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B7DFB27860D for ; Fri, 3 Mar 2006 09:41:33 -0800 (PST) Received: from jupiter.mainframe.ca ([10.0.0.12] helo=mail.mainframe.ca) by wale.mainframe.ca with esmtp (Exim 4.60 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1FFEHV-0002tn-7Z for Majordomo-Users@GreatCircle.COM; Fri, 03 Mar 2006 09:41:33 -0800 Received: from [172.16.139.102] (helo=Mandarin-04) by mail.mainframe.ca with esmtp (Exim 4.60 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1FFEGk-000Hn5-LP for Majordomo-Users@GreatCircle.COM; Fri, 03 Mar 2006 09:40:46 -0800 Subject: Personal recipients? From: Derrick MacPherson To: Majordomo-Users@GreatCircle.COM Content-Type: text/plain Organization: Mainframe Entertainment Inc. Date: Fri, 03 Mar 2006 09:41:22 -0800 Message-Id: <1141407682.16000.20.camel@mandarin-04> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.0.2 (2.0.2-22) Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Archive-Number: 200603/3 X-Sequence-Number: 5368 Is there a way to get majordomo to deliver to personal recipients instead of the list name, in the To: field? From majordomo-users-owner@greatcircle.com Fri Mar 3 12:08:07 2006 X-Original-To: Majordomo-Users@GreatCircle.COM Received: from mail.sonny.com (unknown [70.58.223.141]) by mycroft.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id DA5EC27838E for ; Fri, 3 Mar 2006 12:08:05 -0800 (PST) Received: from [192.168.1.78] (father.sonny.com [192.168.1.78]) by magnia.sonny.com (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 Patch 1 (built Aug 19 2002)) with ESMTP id <0IVK0078GIDY5Q@magnia.sonny.com> for Majordomo-Users@GreatCircle.COM; Fri, 03 Mar 2006 14:03:35 -0600 (CST) Date: Fri, 03 Mar 2006 14:08:18 -0600 From: Daniel Liston Subject: Re: Personal recipients? In-reply-to: <1141407682.16000.20.camel@mandarin-04> To: Derrick MacPherson Cc: Majordomo-Users@GreatCircle.COM Message-id: <4408A232.3040000@sonny.org> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-Accept-Language: en-us, en User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.2) Gecko/20040804 Netscape/7.2 (ax) References: <1141407682.16000.20.camel@mandarin-04> X-Archive-Number: 200603/4 X-Sequence-Number: 5369 Derrick MacPherson wrote: > Is there a way to get majordomo to deliver to personal recipients > instead of the list name, in the To: field? > This question gets frequently asked/answered. Dave Barr should add it to the FAQ. To rephrase your question, you want the final recipient's address in the To: header of the message that is distributed by majordomo. The short answer, is majordomo doesn't do this. Majordomo does not have a switch, config, or plug-in to rewrite message headers. Majordomo did not send the original message, the author of that message did. That author sent their message "To: yourlist@your.domain". In many or most cases, the author does not know or care who is subscribed to your list, and has no intention of making the message appear to come directly from him/her to each subscriber. They wrote to the list, not independent subscribers of that list. Majordomo simply distributes the original message, headers in tact, to the subscribed recipients of that list via your MTA as one message with a list of addresses to deliver to. Either majordomo "resend" would have to be rewritten to loop through your subscriber list addressing a separate message to each subscriber, or your MTA would have to be configured/rewritten to modify the To: header field of the message. This might even be achievable by piping the message to another program between majordomo and your MTA. If anyone in majordomo land has written such a program, configured an MTA, or modified majordomo to support this request, please speak up. Dan Liston From majordomo-users-owner@greatcircle.com Fri Mar 3 13:28:29 2006 X-Original-To: majordomo-users@greatcircle.com Received: from moroni.ourldsfamily.com (ourldsfamily.com [198.60.114.90]) by mycroft.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4002827860F for ; Fri, 3 Mar 2006 13:28:27 -0800 (PST) Received: from ourldsfamily.com (eth1 [172.20.20.2]) by moroni.ourldsfamily.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id k23LSRPn015063 for ; Fri, 3 Mar 2006 14:28:28 -0700 Received: from ats ([207.173.117.242]) (SquirrelMail authenticated user karlp) by ourldsfamily.com with HTTP; Fri, 3 Mar 2006 14:28:28 -0700 (MST) Message-ID: <35874.207.173.117.242.1141421308.squirrel@ourldsfamily.com> In-Reply-To: <4408A232.3040000@sonny.org> References: <1141407682.16000.20.camel@mandarin-04> <4408A232.3040000@sonny.org> Date: Fri, 3 Mar 2006 14:28:28 -0700 (MST) Subject: Re: Personal recipients? From: karlp@ourldsfamily.com To: majordomo-users@greatcircle.com User-Agent: SquirrelMail/1.4.4-rc1 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Importance: Normal X-Archive-Number: 200603/5 X-Sequence-Number: 5370 On Fri, March 3, 2006 1:08 pm, Daniel Liston said: > Derrick MacPherson wrote: > >> Is there a way to get majordomo to deliver to personal recipients >> instead of the list name, in the To: field? >> > > This question gets frequently asked/answered. Dave Barr should add > it to the FAQ. > > To rephrase your question, you want the final recipient's address > in the To: header of the message that is distributed by majordomo. > > The short answer, is majordomo doesn't do this. Majordomo does not > have a switch, config, or plug-in to rewrite message headers. > > Majordomo did not send the original message, the author of that message > did. That author sent their message "To: yourlist@your.domain". In > many or most cases, the author does not know or care who is subscribed > to your list, and has no intention of making the message appear to come > directly from him/her to each subscriber. They wrote to the list, not > independent subscribers of that list. > > Majordomo simply distributes the original message, headers in tact, to > the subscribed recipients of that list via your MTA as one message with > a list of addresses to deliver to. I have nearly 5000 listers on about 110 lists and my initial reaction is that this would be a very bad idea. It seems to me that it would make the list itself seem less involved and less a perceived service. Maybe I'm off the mark, but why would you want to do this? Karl > > Either majordomo "resend" would have to be rewritten to loop through > your subscriber list addressing a separate message to each subscriber, > or your MTA would have to be configured/rewritten to modify the To: > header field of the message. This might even be achievable by piping > the message to another program between majordomo and your MTA. > > If anyone in majordomo land has written such a program, configured an > MTA, or modified majordomo to support this request, please speak up. > > Dan Liston > -- karl _/ _/ _/ _/_/_/ ____________ __o _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ ____________ _-\<._ _/_/ _/ _/_/_/ (_)/ (_) _/ _/ _/ _/ ...................... _/ _/ arl _/_/_/ _/ earson KarlP@ourldsfamily.com --- Senior Consulting Sys/DB Analyst http://consulting.ourldsfamily.com --- My Thoughts on Terrorism In America right after 9/11/2001: http://www.ourldsfamily.com/wtc.shtml --- A right is not what someone gives you; it's what no one can take from you. -Ramsey Clark --- From majordomo-users-owner@greatcircle.com Fri Mar 3 14:32:20 2006 X-Original-To: majordomo-users@greatcircle.com Received: from wale.mainframe.ca (wale.mainframe.ca [209.17.131.74]) by mycroft.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 33C63278631 for ; Fri, 3 Mar 2006 14:32:19 -0800 (PST) Received: from jupiter.mainframe.ca ([10.0.0.12] helo=mail.mainframe.ca) by wale.mainframe.ca with esmtp (Exim 4.60 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1FFIop-0003th-M4; Fri, 03 Mar 2006 14:32:15 -0800 Received: from [172.16.139.102] (helo=Mandarin-04) by mail.mainframe.ca with esmtp (Exim 4.60 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1FFIoE-0002Ob-8k; Fri, 03 Mar 2006 14:31:38 -0800 Subject: Re: Personal recipients? From: Derrick MacPherson To: karlp@ourldsfamily.com Cc: majordomo-users@greatcircle.com In-Reply-To: <35874.207.173.117.242.1141421308.squirrel@ourldsfamily.com> References: <1141407682.16000.20.camel@mandarin-04> <4408A232.3040000@sonny.org> <35874.207.173.117.242.1141421308.squirrel@ourldsfamily.com> Content-Type: text/plain Organization: Mainframe Entertainment Inc. Date: Fri, 03 Mar 2006 14:32:14 -0800 Message-Id: <1141425134.16000.118.camel@mandarin-04> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.0.2 (2.0.2-22) Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Archive-Number: 200603/6 X-Sequence-Number: 5371 > I have nearly 5000 listers on about 110 lists and my initial reaction is > that this would be a very bad idea. It seems to me that it would make the > list itself seem less involved and less a perceived service. Maybe I'm off > the mark, but why would you want to do this? It's completely internal lists, they've broken for our exchange users, the mail is delivered into local traditional mailboxes, and a 3rd party POP connector pulls the mail from the mail server to the exchange server, and those messages are not getting delivered as because the To: field is not what it's looking for. I *might* just turn the lists over to mailman as I know it supports this feature, but I've got a lot of lists to convert etc.. Was hoping for something else before that From majordomo-users-owner@greatcircle.com Fri Mar 3 15:39:13 2006 X-Original-To: majordomo-users@greatcircle.com Received: from moroni.ourldsfamily.com (ourldsfamily.com [198.60.114.90]) by mycroft.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 81D392785F0 for ; Fri, 3 Mar 2006 15:39:12 -0800 (PST) Received: from ourldsfamily.com (eth1 [172.20.20.2]) by moroni.ourldsfamily.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id k23NdBPn023805 for ; Fri, 3 Mar 2006 16:39:11 -0700 Received: from ats ([207.173.117.242]) (SquirrelMail authenticated user karlp) by ourldsfamily.com with HTTP; Fri, 3 Mar 2006 16:39:11 -0700 (MST) Message-ID: <36338.207.173.117.242.1141429151.squirrel@ourldsfamily.com> In-Reply-To: <1141425134.16000.118.camel@mandarin-04> References: <1141407682.16000.20.camel@mandarin-04> <4408A232.3040000@sonny.org> <35874.207.173.117.242.1141421308.squirrel@ourldsfamily.com> <1141425134.16000.118.camel@mandarin-04> Date: Fri, 3 Mar 2006 16:39:11 -0700 (MST) Subject: Re: Personal recipients? From: karlp@ourldsfamily.com To: majordomo-users@greatcircle.com User-Agent: SquirrelMail/1.4.4-rc1 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Importance: Normal X-Archive-Number: 200603/7 X-Sequence-Number: 5372 On Fri, March 3, 2006 3:32 pm, Derrick MacPherson said: >> I have nearly 5000 listers on about 110 lists and my initial reaction is >> that this would be a very bad idea. It seems to me that it would make the >> list itself seem less involved and less a perceived service. Maybe I'm off >> the mark, but why would you want to do this? > > It's completely internal lists, they've broken for our exchange users, > the mail is delivered into local traditional mailboxes, and a 3rd party > POP connector pulls the mail from the mail server to the exchange > server, and those messages are not getting delivered as because the To: > field is not what it's looking for. I *might* just turn the lists over > to mailman as I know it supports this feature, but I've got a lot of > lists to convert etc.. Was hoping for something else before that > Ah, that makes sense now. Okay, what about using fetchmail. The syntax is: poll mail.domain.com and options no dns user 'username' therre with password 'password' is 'username' here options fetchall smtphost domain.com If you could set it up that way, wouldn't you then be able to have procmail process it and add a new TO: field to the correct user? Something like: :0fw: hdr.lock * TO_emailgroupname | formail -tb -I "To: $LOGNAME" If you put this in the .procmailrc file for each user, the TO: header field would contain the correct information before Exchange go hold of it... Since I didn't follow your topology very well and don't have any more time (I should have left 10 minutes ago)... Senior moments are also involved. Karl -- karl _/ _/ _/ _/_/_/ ____________ __o _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ ____________ _-\<._ _/_/ _/ _/_/_/ (_)/ (_) _/ _/ _/ _/ ...................... _/ _/ arl _/_/_/ _/ earson KarlP@ourldsfamily.com --- Senior Consulting Sys/DB Analyst http://consulting.ourldsfamily.com --- My Thoughts on Terrorism In America right after 9/11/2001: http://www.ourldsfamily.com/wtc.shtml --- A right is not what someone gives you; it's what no one can take from you. -Ramsey Clark --- From majordomo-users-owner@greatcircle.com Fri Mar 3 15:58:45 2006 X-Original-To: majordomo-users@greatcircle.com Received: from rwcrmhc11.comcast.net (rwcrmhc11.comcast.net [216.148.227.151]) by mycroft.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D2DE927862F for ; Fri, 3 Mar 2006 15:58:44 -0800 (PST) Received: from doofus.chinet.com ([24.13.110.203]) by comcast.net (rwcrmhc11) with ESMTP id <20060303235843m11009r70se>; Fri, 3 Mar 2006 23:58:43 +0000 Received: by doofus.chinet.com (Postfix, from userid 500) id EEB8F5DA60; Fri, 3 Mar 2006 18:04:48 -0600 (CST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by doofus.chinet.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id EBA1126DF2 for ; Fri, 3 Mar 2006 18:04:48 -0600 (CST) Date: Fri, 3 Mar 2006 18:04:48 -0600 (CST) From: "Adam H. Kerman" To: majordomo-users@greatcircle.com Subject: Re: Personal recipients? In-Reply-To: <4408A232.3040000@sonny.org> Message-ID: References: <1141407682.16000.20.camel@mandarin-04> <4408A232.3040000@sonny.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Archive-Number: 200603/8 X-Sequence-Number: 5373 At 2:08pm -0600, 03/03/06, Daniel Liston wrote: >Derrick MacPherson wrote: >>Is there a way to get majordomo to deliver to personal recipients >>instead of the list name, in the To: field? >To rephrase your question, you want the final recipient's address >in the To: header of the message that is distributed by majordomo. >The short answer, is majordomo doesn't do this. Majordomo does not have >a switch, config, or plug-in to rewrite message headers. Personally, I find this to be obnoxious and deceptive. It's a spammer's trick. No mail list server should do such a thing, although I know several that do. But isn't it also nonstandard? Thou shalt not rewrite the To header would seem to be an important standard to comply with. From majordomo-users-owner@greatcircle.com Tue Mar 7 10:28:17 2006 X-Original-To: majordomo-users@greatcircle.com Received: from mail.reedphoto.com (unknown [64.25.14.102]) by mycroft.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 63FE1278710 for ; Tue, 7 Mar 2006 10:28:16 -0800 (PST) Received: from [192.0.2.49] ([192.0.2.49]) (authenticated) by mail.reedphoto.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id k27HXLx17017 for ; Tue, 7 Mar 2006 10:33:21 -0700 Message-ID: <440DD0B9.4010504@reedphoto.com> Date: Tue, 07 Mar 2006 11:28:09 -0700 From: Reed Photo-Imaging User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.7 (Windows/20050923) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: majordomo-users@greatcircle.com Subject: proposed solution for spam sent to majordomo@yourdomain Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Archive-Number: 200603/9 X-Sequence-Number: 5374 Bill, I have been trouble by the exact same issues. Great appreciation would come your way if you could provide me with your code. John Harris Denver, Colorado >Recently, I've been seeing a fair number of spam messages that have been sent to my majordomo address. They are sent from bogus "From:" addresses, and since >majordomo doesn't need Viagra, etc, "he" replies with a long stream of error messages: &squawk("Command '$cmd' not recognized."); This message with every line >parroted back as "not recognized" PLUS the majordomo help text is then sent to the fake "From:" address, and the isp, if it exists, sends it BACK to me complaining about >a non-existant user. As majordomo-owner, I get it in my inbox. To put a stop to this, I modified majordomo in the following ways: I added a threshold of 10 "not >recognized" errors, which if exceeded AND we have NOT SEEN ANY valid commands, the following actions take place: 1. Processing of the message is terminated. 2. >The help text is not sent. 3. Instead of replying to the "sender", we send just send a short note to majordomo-owner that says a message with > THRESHOLD errors was >found and a reply was NOT sent to "sender". I'll be happy to make this code available in any way that is appropriate. Bill Dudley From majordomo-users-owner@greatcircle.com Mon Mar 27 06:54:23 2006 X-Original-To: majordomo-users@greatcircle.com Received: from MAIL2.gmhwh.org (mail2.gmhwh.org [216.49.176.51]) by mycroft.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2729D2786A1 for ; Mon, 27 Mar 2006 06:54:16 -0800 (PST) Received: from 10.97.38.48 by mail1.gmhwh.org with ESMTP ( ( Email Firewall v6.2.1)); Mon, 27 Mar 2006 07:54:09 -0700 X-Server-Uuid: C2949180-B7D1-48DE-A1DB-CE08BD12BF69 Received: from WH-SMTP1-MTA by inet-wh1.gmhwh.org with Novell_GroupWise; Mon, 27 Mar 2006 07:54:09 -0700 Message-ID: <44279A1C0200009D00016C35@inet-wh1.gmhwh.org> X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise Internet Agent 7.0 Date: Mon, 27 Mar 2006 07:54:04 -0700 From: "Charlie Smith" To: majordomo-users@greatcircle.com Subject: Limit to listname size? References: <200511251304.jAPD40nd004572@atlantis.emacolet.com> <027e01c5f372$fca59ae0$6501a8c0@laptop> <4389EA63.9070404@sonny.org> In-Reply-To: <4389EA63.9070404@sonny.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-TMWD-Spam-Summary: TS=20060327145409; SEV=2.0.1; DFV=A2006032705; IFV=2.0.4,4.0-8; RPD=4.00.0004; ENG=IBF; RPDID=NA; CAT=NONE; CON=NONE X-MMS-Spam-Filter-ID: A2006032705_4.00.0004_4.0-8 X-WSS-ID: 6839231B2XS1826158-01-03 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline X-Archive-Number: 200603/10 X-Sequence-Number: 5375 Is there a practical or imposed limitation on size of list names? I recently had a request to change the size of a field which is used to store listnames. Was wondering just how long the field should be. Charlie 3/27/06 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ NOTICE: This email message is for the sole use of the intended recipient(s) and may contain confidential and privileged information. Any unauthorized review, use, disclosure or distribution is prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender by reply email and destroy all copies of the original message. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ From majordomo-users-owner@greatcircle.com Mon Mar 27 07:39:11 2006 X-Original-To: majordomo-users@greatcircle.com Received: from mail.emacolet.com (mail.emacolet.com [66.166.78.87]) by mycroft.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D488127867D for ; Mon, 27 Mar 2006 07:39:10 -0800 (PST) Received: from akelalt (c-67-181-54-30.hsd1.ca.comcast.net [67.181.54.30]) (authenticated bits=0) by mail.emacolet.com (8.13.5/8.13.5) with ESMTP id k2RFd9h4006956; Mon, 27 Mar 2006 07:39:09 -0800 Message-Id: <200603271539.k2RFd9h4006956@mail.emacolet.com> Reply-To: From: "Peter P. Benac" To: "'Charlie Smith'" , Subject: Re: Limit to listname size? Date: Mon, 27 Mar 2006 07:39:02 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook, Build 11.0.5510 In-Reply-To: <44279A1C0200009D00016C35@inet-wh1.gmhwh.org> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2670 Thread-Index: AcZRrmIuVS4CDa3nStW0eef//b/PnwABX3yw X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.53 on 192.168.0.153 X-Archive-Number: 200603/11 X-Sequence-Number: 5376 As far as the OS is concerned none that I am aware of, but from a practical viewpoint yes. I would think that the shorter the list name can be the better from a practical viewpoint. Who wants to enter "this-is-my-list-and-welcome-to-it@whatever" when they can enter "mylist@whatever"? Regards, Pete ---- Peter P. Benac, CCNA Emacolet Networking Services, Inc Providing Network and Systems Project Management and Installation and Web Hosting. Phone: 919-618-2557 Web: http://www.emacolet.com To have principles... First have courage.. With principles comes integrity!!! > -----Original Message----- > From: majordomo-users-owner@greatcircle.com > [mailto:majordomo-users-owner@greatcircle.com] On Behalf Of > Charlie Smith > Sent: Monday, March 27, 2006 06:54 > To: majordomo-users@greatcircle.com > Subject: Limit to listname size? > > Is there a practical or imposed limitation on size of list names? > > I recently had a request to change the size of a field which is > used to store listnames. Was wondering just how long the field > should be. > > Charlie > 3/27/06 > > -------------------------------------------------------------- > ---------------- > > > NOTICE: This email message is for the sole use of the > intended recipient(s) and may contain confidential and > privileged information. Any unauthorized review, use, > disclosure or distribution is prohibited. If you are not the > intended recipient, please contact the sender by reply email > and destroy all copies of the original message. > > -------------------------------------------------------------- > ---------------- > From majordomo-users-owner@greatcircle.com Fri Mar 31 10:24:52 2006 X-Original-To: majordomo-users@greatcircle.com Received: from Mail3.gmhwh.org (mail3.gmhwh.org [216.49.176.52]) by mycroft.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 11D1127861E for ; Fri, 31 Mar 2006 10:24:00 -0800 (PST) Received: from 10.97.38.48 by MAIL2.gmhwh.org with ESMTP ( ( Email Firewall v6.2.1)); Fri, 31 Mar 2006 11:23:44 -0700 X-Server-Uuid: CF43AD4F-A1A0-4DED-BBFB-3C992075BCEB Received: from WH-SMTP1-MTA by inet-wh1.gmhwh.org with Novell_GroupWise; Fri, 31 Mar 2006 11:23:44 -0700 Message-ID: <442D113D0200009D000175D6@inet-wh1.gmhwh.org> X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise Internet Agent 7.0 Date: Fri, 31 Mar 2006 11:23:41 -0700 From: "Charlie Smith" To: majordomo-users@greatcircle.com Subject: avoid mail loop References: <44279A1C0200009D00016C35@inet-wh1.gmhwh.org> <200603271539.k2RFd9h4006956@mail.emacolet.com> In-Reply-To: <200603271539.k2RFd9h4006956@mail.emacolet.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-TMWD-Spam-Summary: TS=20060331182344; SEV=2.0.1; DFV=A2006033105; IFV=2.0.4,4.0-8; RPD=4.00.0004; ENG=IBF; RPDID=NA; CAT=NONE; CON=NONE X-MMS-Spam-Filter-ID: A2006033105_4.00.0004_4.0-8 X-WSS-ID: 6833AC3A46O1527922-01-03 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline X-Archive-Number: 200603/12 X-Sequence-Number: 5377 I'm geting following messages. Is there something wrong? Why? MAJORDOMO ABORT (mj_majordomo)!! majordome@sitename.org not replying to MAILER-DAEMON to avoid mail loop. Charlie ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ NOTICE: This email message is for the sole use of the intended recipient(s) and may contain confidential and privileged information. Any unauthorized review, use, disclosure or distribution is prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender by reply email and destroy all copies of the original message. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ From majordomo-users-owner@greatcircle.com Fri Mar 31 10:36:32 2006 X-Original-To: majordomo-users@greatcircle.com Received: from mail.sonny.com (unknown [70.58.223.141]) by mycroft.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7AD0927872F for ; Fri, 31 Mar 2006 10:35:50 -0800 (PST) Received: from [192.168.1.178] (dhcp178.sonny.com [192.168.1.178]) by magnia.sonny.com (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 Patch 1 (built Aug 19 2002)) with ESMTP id <0IX0008668D2TI@magnia.sonny.com> for majordomo-users@greatcircle.com; Fri, 31 Mar 2006 12:22:14 -0600 (CST) Date: Fri, 31 Mar 2006 12:36:03 -0600 From: Daniel Liston Subject: Re: avoid mail loop In-reply-to: <442D113D0200009D000175D6@inet-wh1.gmhwh.org> To: Charlie Smith Cc: majordomo-users@greatcircle.com Message-id: <442D7693.6030003@sonny.org> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-Accept-Language: en-us, en User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.2) Gecko/20040804 Netscape/7.2 (ax) References: <44279A1C0200009D00016C35@inet-wh1.gmhwh.org> <200603271539.k2RFd9h4006956@mail.emacolet.com> <442D113D0200009D000175D6@inet-wh1.gmhwh.org> X-Archive-Number: 200603/13 X-Sequence-Number: 5378 Is somebody sending mail as the root user or postmaster account? Is somebody signed up to your list as root or postmaster? Is there really a majordome vs. majordomo? ;) Look at the time stamp on the error message. Compare that time within a few minutes to your majordomo.Log file and your sendmail /var/log/maillog entries to see if anything unusual shows up. Is the error always coming from the same list? The same domain? Dan Liston Charlie Smith wrote: > I'm geting following messages. > Is there something wrong? Why? > > MAJORDOMO ABORT (mj_majordomo)!! > > majordome@sitename.org not replying to MAILER-DAEMON to avoid mail loop.