From majordomo-users-owner@greatcircle.com Tue Jun 6 07:03:30 2006 X-Original-To: majordomo-users@greatcircle.com X-Greylist: delayed 65 seconds by postgrey-1.24 at mycroft; Tue, 06 Jun 2006 07:03:29 PDT Received: from wrl.org (franklin.wrl.org [209.96.177.100]) by mycroft.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B3ECF19C5AE for ; Tue, 6 Jun 2006 07:03:29 -0700 (PDT) Received: from franklin.wrl.org (brett@franklin.wrl.org [127.0.0.1]) by wrl.org (8.13.4/8.13.4/Debian-3sarge1) with ESMTP id k56E2MUG028439 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT) for ; Tue, 6 Jun 2006 10:02:22 -0400 Received: from localhost (brett@localhost) by franklin.wrl.org (8.13.4/8.13.4/Submit) with ESMTP id k56E2MQV028436 for ; Tue, 6 Jun 2006 10:02:22 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: franklin.wrl.org: brett owned process doing -bs Date: Tue, 6 Jun 2006 10:02:22 -0400 (EDT) From: Brett Charbeneau To: majordomo-users@greatcircle.com Subject: Non-english character sets and moderated lists Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Archive-Number: 200606/1 X-Sequence-Number: 5470 One of our MJ lists is a newsletter of sorts and has a moderator who sends text to the list by cutting and pasting text from MS FrontPage-prepared HTML pages. Occasionally, this text contains characters from non-English sets - mostly accented characters and such - which majordomo seems to choke on. As long as these accents are in the text the message cannot be approved for distribution. Once they are manually removed, the messages go out fine. I originally asked the moderator to past her text into Notepad to 'normalize' the text, and THEN cut and past into Pine for and MJ post, but many of these characters seem to survive this. Is there a way to force MJ to ignore these kinds of characters in the body of a post? -- ******************************************************************** Brett Charbeneau Network Administrator Williamsburg Regional Library 7770 Croaker Road Williamsburg, VA 23188-7064 (757)259-4044 www.wrl.org (757)259-4079 (fax) brett@NOSPAMwrl.org ******************************************************************** From majordomo-users-owner@greatcircle.com Tue Jun 6 08:59:58 2006 X-Original-To: majordomo-users@greatcircle.com Received: from mail.sonny.com (mail.sonny.com [70.58.223.141]) by mycroft.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4C2F421BD6D for ; Tue, 6 Jun 2006 08:59:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [127.0.0.1] (father-g.sonny.com [192.168.1.178]) by magnia.sonny.com (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 Patch 1 (built Aug 19 2002)) with ESMTP id <0J0G0092Y49DFQ@magnia.sonny.com> for majordomo-users@greatcircle.com; Tue, 06 Jun 2006 10:56:02 -0500 (CDT) Date: Tue, 06 Jun 2006 11:00:02 -0500 From: Daniel Liston Subject: Re: Non-english character sets and moderated lists In-reply-to: To: Brett Charbeneau , majordomo-users@greatcircle.com Message-id: <4485A682.6090107@sonny.org> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-Accept-Language: en-us, en User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.2) Gecko/20040804 Netscape/7.2 (ax) References: X-Archive-Number: 200606/2 X-Sequence-Number: 5471 What have you done to troubleshoot this, ie. identify majordomo as the problem? What is your MTA, and version? What version of majordomo are you running? What modifications/patches have been applied? Is your MTA configured to allow non-ASCII characters? Typically, majordomo could care less what is in the "BODY" of a message. Is your global "majordomo.cf" catching "TABOO" regular expressions? Is the problem specific to one list, or all your lists? Have you tried to send a message with foreign characters to another list to be certain it is not a configuration issue? Tell us more so we can help you more. Dan Liston Brett Charbeneau wrote: > One of our MJ lists is a newsletter of sorts and has a moderator who > sends text to the list by cutting and pasting text from MS > FrontPage-prepared HTML pages. > Occasionally, this text contains characters from non-English sets - > mostly accented characters and such - which majordomo seems to choke on. > As long as these accents are in the text the message cannot be approved > for distribution. Once they are manually removed, the messages go out fine. > I originally asked the moderator to past her text into Notepad to > 'normalize' the text, and THEN cut and past into Pine for and MJ post, > but many of these characters seem to survive this. > Is there a way to force MJ to ignore these kinds of characters in > the body of a post? > From majordomo-users-owner@greatcircle.com Tue Jun 6 09:40:45 2006 X-Original-To: majordomo-users@greatcircle.com Received: from wrl.org (franklin.wrl.org [209.96.177.100]) by mycroft.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id BE7F021BD84 for ; Tue, 6 Jun 2006 09:40:44 -0700 (PDT) Received: from franklin.wrl.org (brett@franklin.wrl.org [127.0.0.1]) by wrl.org (8.13.4/8.13.4/Debian-3sarge1) with ESMTP id k56GdaMK010017 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT); Tue, 6 Jun 2006 12:39:36 -0400 Received: from localhost (brett@localhost) by franklin.wrl.org (8.13.4/8.13.4/Submit) with ESMTP id k56GdaNI010014; Tue, 6 Jun 2006 12:39:36 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: franklin.wrl.org: brett owned process doing -bs Date: Tue, 6 Jun 2006 12:39:35 -0400 (EDT) From: Brett Charbeneau To: Daniel Liston Cc: majordomo-users@greatcircle.com Subject: Re: Non-english character sets and moderated lists In-Reply-To: <4485A682.6090107@sonny.org> Message-ID: References: <4485A682.6090107@sonny.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=ISO-8859-1; FORMAT=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8BIT Content-Id: X-Archive-Number: 200606/3 X-Sequence-Number: 5472 On Tue, 6 Jun 2006, Daniel Liston wrote: Hey Dan - thanks for the response! DL> What have you done to troubleshoot this, ie. identify majordomo as the DL> problem? Well, the messages that won't distribute bounce back to the moderator with "Approval required:" errors even though she used the correct format and password for approved messages. In an attempt to troubleshoot I pared down the list to make me the only subscriber. I then took the original troublesome post and submitted it with the approval password, slicing off lines in the post until it distributed, and then seeing what that last line contained. In the particular instance I worked with it was actually two lines of text that caused trouble: "Paxton's 40-year career. A two-time Grammy® nominee, he has received the" "Tafelmusik of Toronto and Concerto Köln in addition to other early and" Please note the "®" and "ö" in these two lines. Once I removed those characters, the message went out to the list as expected. I asked my moderator to please paste the contents of future posts into Wordpad and then cut and past THAT into Pine for submission. This seems to remove most of the special characters like this. DL> What is your MTA, and version? What version of majordomo are you running? Sorry I neglected to mention this. Sendmail 8.13.4 (running on Debian 3.1). Majordomow version is 1.94.5 with no patches that I can find/remember. DL> Is your MTA configured to allow non-ASCII characters? Good question. I have not altered the default settings in this particular area and can't find from SENDMAIL.ORG or Google what the default setting for non-ASCII charactersfor this version is. Anyone happen to know? DL> Is your global "majordomo.cf" catching "TABOO" regular expressions? No, that portion of the majordomo.cf file is still commented out. DL> Is the problem specific to one list, or all your lists? Have you tried to DL> send a message with foreign characters to another list to be certain it is DL> not a configuration issue? Using the two line of quoted text as a test message, I tested two of our lists. The special characters will go out as-is to the unmoderated list. Using another moderated list as a test, the text would not distribute to the list, even with the correct password, until I removed the "®" and "ö" then it went out like a champ. Please let me know if I can provide more info! Brett DL> Brett Charbeneau wrote: DL> DL> > One of our MJ lists is a newsletter of sorts and has a moderator who DL> > sends text to the list by cutting and pasting text from MS DL> > FrontPage-prepared HTML pages. DL> > Occasionally, this text contains characters from non-English sets - DL> > mostly accented characters and such - which majordomo seems to choke on. DL> > As long as these accents are in the text the message cannot be approved DL> > for distribution. Once they are manually removed, the messages go out fine. DL> > I originally asked the moderator to past her text into Notepad to DL> > 'normalize' the text, and THEN cut and past into Pine for and MJ post, DL> > but many of these characters seem to survive this. DL> > Is there a way to force MJ to ignore these kinds of characters in DL> > the body of a post? DL> > DL> DL> -- ******************************************************************** Brett Charbeneau Network Administrator Williamsburg Regional Library 7770 Croaker Road Williamsburg, VA 23188-7064 (757)259-4044 www.wrl.org (757)259-4079 (fax) brett@wrl.org ******************************************************************** From majordomo-users-owner@greatcircle.com Tue Jun 6 22:51:45 2006 X-Original-To: majordomo-users@greatcircle.com Received: from mail.sonny.com (mail.sonny.com [70.58.223.141]) by mycroft.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8831921BD5E for ; Tue, 6 Jun 2006 22:51:44 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [127.0.0.1] (father-g.sonny.com [192.168.1.178]) by magnia.sonny.com (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 Patch 1 (built Aug 19 2002)) with ESMTP id <0J0H00A096RIAM@magnia.sonny.com> for majordomo-users@greatcircle.com; Wed, 07 Jun 2006 00:47:43 -0500 (CDT) Date: Wed, 07 Jun 2006 00:51:53 -0500 From: Daniel Liston Subject: Re: Non-english character sets and moderated lists In-reply-to: To: Brett Charbeneau , majordomo-users@greatcircle.com Message-id: <44866979.8060503@sonny.org> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 8BIT X-Accept-Language: en-us, en User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.2) Gecko/20040804 Netscape/7.2 (ax) References: <4485A682.6090107@sonny.org> X-Archive-Number: 200606/4 X-Sequence-Number: 5473 Since the characters came through the majordomo-users list successfully, also an unmoderated list, it appears we may have a bug in the code regarding moderating a list. I am on vacation this week, and on a project in california the following week, but maybe another list member can help before then. If not, I will see what I can do when I get back. Have you experienced any other characters with the same problem, or is it generally all characters higher than ASCII 127, (the extended ASCII set)? Dan Liston Brett Charbeneau wrote: > On Tue, 6 Jun 2006, Daniel Liston wrote: > > Hey Dan - thanks for the response! > > DL> What have you done to troubleshoot this, ie. identify majordomo as the > DL> problem? > Well, the messages that won't distribute bounce back to the > moderator with "Approval required:" errors even though she used the > correct format and password for approved messages. > In an attempt to troubleshoot I pared down the list to make me the > only subscriber. I then took the original troublesome post and submitted > it with the approval password, slicing off lines in the post until it > distributed, and then seeing what that last line contained. In the > particular instance I worked with it was actually two lines of text that > caused trouble: > > "Paxton's 40-year career. A two-time Grammy® nominee, he has received the" > "Tafelmusik of Toronto and Concerto Köln in addition to other early and" > > Please note the "®" and "ö" in these two lines. Once I removed > those characters, the message went out to the list as expected. > I asked my moderator to please paste the contents of future posts > into Wordpad and then cut and past THAT into Pine for submission. This > seems to remove most of the special characters like this. > > DL> What is your MTA, and version? What version of majordomo are you > running? > > Sorry I neglected to mention this. Sendmail 8.13.4 (running on > Debian 3.1). > Majordomow version is 1.94.5 with no patches that I can find/remember. > > DL> Is your MTA configured to allow non-ASCII characters? > > Good question. I have not altered the default settings in this > particular area and can't find from SENDMAIL.ORG or Google what the > default setting for non-ASCII charactersfor this version is. > Anyone happen to know? > > DL> Is your global "majordomo.cf" catching "TABOO" regular expressions? > No, that portion of the majordomo.cf file is still commented out. > > DL> Is the problem specific to one list, or all your lists? Have you > tried to DL> send a message with foreign characters to another list to > be certain it is DL> not a configuration issue? > > Using the two line of quoted text as a test message, I tested two of > our lists. The special characters will go out as-is to the unmoderated > list. > Using another moderated list as a test, the text would not > distribute to the list, even with the correct password, until I removed > the "®" and "ö" then it went out like a champ. > Please let me know if I can provide more info! > > > Brett > > > DL> Brett Charbeneau wrote: > DL> DL> > One of our MJ lists is a newsletter of sorts and has a > moderator who > DL> > sends text to the list by cutting and pasting text from MS > DL> > FrontPage-prepared HTML pages. > DL> > Occasionally, this text contains characters from non-English > sets - > DL> > mostly accented characters and such - which majordomo seems to > choke on. > DL> > As long as these accents are in the text the message cannot be > approved > DL> > for distribution. Once they are manually removed, the messages go > out fine. > DL> > I originally asked the moderator to past her text into Notepad to > DL> > 'normalize' the text, and THEN cut and past into Pine for and MJ > post, > DL> > but many of these characters seem to survive this. > DL> > Is there a way to force MJ to ignore these kinds of characters in > DL> > the body of a post? > DL> > DL> DL> From majordomo-users-owner@greatcircle.com Wed Jun 7 06:28:06 2006 X-Original-To: majordomo-users@greatcircle.com Received: from wrl.org (franklin.wrl.org [209.96.177.100]) by mycroft.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 55076290046 for ; Wed, 7 Jun 2006 06:28:04 -0700 (PDT) Received: from franklin.wrl.org (brett@franklin.wrl.org [127.0.0.1]) by wrl.org (8.13.4/8.13.4/Debian-3sarge1) with ESMTP id k57DRvI6004593 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT); Wed, 7 Jun 2006 09:27:58 -0400 Received: from localhost (brett@localhost) by franklin.wrl.org (8.13.4/8.13.4/Submit) with ESMTP id k57DRn2m004583; Wed, 7 Jun 2006 09:27:53 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: franklin.wrl.org: brett owned process doing -bs Date: Wed, 7 Jun 2006 09:27:49 -0400 (EDT) From: Brett Charbeneau To: Daniel Liston Cc: majordomo-users@greatcircle.com Subject: Re: Non-english character sets and moderated lists In-Reply-To: <44866979.8060503@sonny.org> Message-ID: References: <4485A682.6090107@sonny.org> <44866979.8060503@sonny.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8BIT X-Archive-Number: 200606/5 X-Sequence-Number: 5474 On Wed, 7 Jun 2006, Daniel Liston wrote: DL> Since the characters came through the majordomo-users list DL> successfully, also an unmoderated list, it appears we may DL> have a bug in the code regarding moderating a list. I am DL> on vacation this week, and on a project in california the DL> following week, but maybe another list member can help DL> before then. If not, I will see what I can do when I get DL> back. Well, that's fantastic. =8^) No hurries - I think the Wordpad "washing" will hold my moderator for a while. I'm happy to offer up the conf files for these lists to anyone interested. DL> Have you experienced any other characters with the same problem, or is it DL> generally all characters higher than ASCII 127, (the extended ASCII set)? I haven't tried to find all the troublesome characters, I'm afraid. The example I listed was actually the first where I could isolate a pair of them. ******************************************************************** Brett Charbeneau Network Administrator Williamsburg Regional Library 7770 Croaker Road Williamsburg, VA 23188-7064 (757)259-4044 www.wrl.org (757)259-4079 (fax) brett@NO-SPAMwrl.org ******************************************************************** DL> Brett Charbeneau wrote: DL> DL> > On Tue, 6 Jun 2006, Daniel Liston wrote: DL> > DL> > Hey Dan - thanks for the response! DL> > DL> > DL> What have you done to troubleshoot this, ie. identify majordomo as the DL> > DL> problem? DL> > Well, the messages that won't distribute bounce back to the DL> > moderator with "Approval required:" errors even though she used the DL> > correct format and password for approved messages. DL> > In an attempt to troubleshoot I pared down the list to make me the DL> > only subscriber. I then took the original troublesome post and submitted DL> > it with the approval password, slicing off lines in the post until it DL> > distributed, and then seeing what that last line contained. In the DL> > particular instance I worked with it was actually two lines of text that DL> > caused trouble: DL> > DL> > "Paxton's 40-year career. A two-time Grammy® nominee, he has received the" DL> > "Tafelmusik of Toronto and Concerto Köln in addition to other early and" DL> > DL> > Please note the "®" and "ö" in these two lines. Once I removed DL> > those characters, the message went out to the list as expected. DL> > I asked my moderator to please paste the contents of future posts DL> > into Wordpad and then cut and past THAT into Pine for submission. This DL> > seems to remove most of the special characters like this. DL> > DL> > DL> What is your MTA, and version? What version of majordomo are you DL> > running? DL> > DL> > Sorry I neglected to mention this. Sendmail 8.13.4 (running on DL> > Debian 3.1). DL> > Majordomow version is 1.94.5 with no patches that I can find/remember. DL> > DL> > DL> Is your MTA configured to allow non-ASCII characters? DL> > DL> > Good question. I have not altered the default settings in this DL> > particular area and can't find from SENDMAIL.ORG or Google what the DL> > default setting for non-ASCII charactersfor this version is. DL> > Anyone happen to know? DL> > DL> > DL> Is your global "majordomo.cf" catching "TABOO" regular expressions? DL> > No, that portion of the majordomo.cf file is still commented out. DL> > DL> > DL> Is the problem specific to one list, or all your lists? Have you DL> > tried to DL> send a message with foreign characters to another list to DL> > be certain it is DL> not a configuration issue? DL> > DL> > Using the two line of quoted text as a test message, I tested two of DL> > our lists. The special characters will go out as-is to the unmoderated DL> > list. DL> > Using another moderated list as a test, the text would not DL> > distribute to the list, even with the correct password, until I removed DL> > the "®" and "ö" then it went out like a champ. DL> > Please let me know if I can provide more info! DL> > DL> > DL> > Brett DL> > DL> > DL> > DL> Brett Charbeneau wrote: DL> > DL> DL> > One of our MJ lists is a newsletter of sorts and has a DL> > moderator who DL> > DL> > sends text to the list by cutting and pasting text from MS DL> > DL> > FrontPage-prepared HTML pages. DL> > DL> > Occasionally, this text contains characters from non-English DL> > sets - DL> > DL> > mostly accented characters and such - which majordomo seems to DL> > choke on. DL> > DL> > As long as these accents are in the text the message cannot be DL> > approved DL> > DL> > for distribution. Once they are manually removed, the messages go DL> > out fine. DL> > DL> > I originally asked the moderator to past her text into Notepad to DL> > DL> > 'normalize' the text, and THEN cut and past into Pine for and MJ DL> > post, DL> > DL> > but many of these characters seem to survive this. DL> > DL> > Is there a way to force MJ to ignore these kinds of characters in DL> > DL> > the body of a post? DL> > DL> > DL> DL> DL> DL> -- From majordomo-users-owner@greatcircle.com Thu Jun 8 10:08:43 2006 X-Original-To: majordomo-users@greatcircle.com Received: from mailsrv.bellingham.image-src.com (gateway.image-src.com [216.153.219.66]) by mycroft.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id F109D21BD88 for ; Thu, 8 Jun 2006 10:08:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: from bluto (bluto.bellingham.image-src.com [172.16.10.90]) by mailsrv.bellingham.image-src.com (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id k58H8V6A023156 for ; Thu, 8 Jun 2006 13:08:35 -0400 From: "Jeff Graves" To: Subject: DNSBL Checks Date: Thu, 8 Jun 2006 13:08:29 -0400 Organization: Image Source, Inc. Message-ID: <000701c68b1e$2c15e530$5a0a10ac@bellingham.imagesrc.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.6626 Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2869 X-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-MailScanner-SpamCheck: X-MailScanner-From: jeff@image-src.com X-Archive-Number: 200606/6 X-Sequence-Number: 5475 I'm having problems with DNSBL check's happening on my majordomo lists (and I don't want them to). I know this is a sendmail config problem but I hope someone here can give me a quick answer. My sendmail config has=20 FEATURE(`blacklist_recipients')dnl FEATURE(`delay_checks',`friend')dnl And my access db looks like To:list1@image-src.com OK To:list2@image-src.com OK To:list3@image-src.com OK But still the checks are happening: May 23 21:43:06 mailsrv sendmail[2922]: k4O1h08G002922: ruleset=3Dcheck_rcp= t, arg1=3D, relay=3Dweb35515.mail.mud.yahoo.com [66.163.179.139], reject=3D553 5.3.0 ... Message from 66.163.179.139 rejected - Server Blacklisted by dnsbl.sorbs.net Jun 3 10:50:16 mailsrv sendmail[31930]: k53EoFkN031930: ruleset=3Dcheck_rc= pt, arg1=3D, relay=3Dthunderbird.hanscom.af.mil [129.53.219.254], reject=3D553 5.1.8 ... Domain = of sender address xxxxxxxx@usafe.ds.af.mil does not exist Jun 7 18:24:36 mailsrv sendmail[7723]: k57MOakN007723: ruleset=3Dcheck_rcp= t, arg1=3D, relay=3Dpy-out-1112.google.com [64.233.166.17= 7], reject=3D553 5.3.0 ... Message from 64.233.166.177 rejected - Server Blacklisted by dnsbl.sorbs.net I just want sendmail to accept anything sent to these addresses. I moderate new subscribers so I know everyone there belongs there and only people on the list can send to the list so I'm not worried about spam getting through. More importantly, legit posts are getting blocked. PS. There's a list alias that is the real addresses (eg. list2-randomnumber@image-src.com) if that matters for the sendmail config. Thanks, --=20 Jeff Graves, MCSA Image Source, Inc. 10 Mill Street Bellingham, MA 02019 508.966.5200 x31 - Phone 508.966.5170 - Fax jeff@image-src.com - Email www.image-src.com=20 From majordomo-users-owner@greatcircle.com Wed Jun 14 00:21:55 2006 X-Original-To: majordomo-users@greatcircle.com X-Greylist: delayed 2020 seconds by postgrey-1.24 at mycroft; Wed, 14 Jun 2006 00:21:35 PDT Received: from terminator.alphawest.com.au (ip099.net03.alphawest.com.au [203.14.127.99]) by mycroft.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7756621BD6F for ; Wed, 14 Jun 2006 00:21:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: from awperdcexch.alphawest.com.au ([203.14.124.177]) by terminator.alphawest.com.au with InterScan Message Security Suite; Wed, 14 Jun 2006 14:47:44 +0800 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.0.6603.0 content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: bounce vs. moderated list issue Date: Wed, 14 Jun 2006 14:47:43 +0800 Message-ID: <6D42E2379C97E84A8B16B37609AB97F407875933@awperdcexch.alphawest.com.au> X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: bounce vs. moderated list issue Thread-Index: AcaPfm96R/9oEmSvSoSXy6uD9KTC2A== From: "James Taylor" To: X-imss-version: 2.040 X-imss-result: Passed X-imss-scanInfo: M:P L:E SM:0 X-imss-tmaseResult: TT:0 TS:0.0000 TC:00 TRN:0 TV:3.52.1006(14506.001) X-imss-scores: Clean:68.86753 C:2 M:4 S:5 R:5 X-imss-settings: Baseline:2 C:1 M:1 S:1 R:1 (0.1500 0.1500) X-Archive-Number: 200606/7 X-Sequence-Number: 5476 Hey guys, first post here so don't bite! Having a problem with a majordomo installation I have set up, version 1.94.= 5. I've set the list to not be moderated, and I have added a few users who = I would like to be able to post to restrict_post. # moderate [bool] (no) # If yes, all postings to the list will be bounced to the moderator # for approval. moderate =3D no # restrict_post [restrict_post] (undef) # If defined, only addresses listed in these files (colon or space # separated) can post to the mailing list. By default, these files # are relative to the lists directory. These files are also checked # when get_access, index_access, info_access, intro_access, # which_access, or who_access is set to 'list'. This is less useful # than it seems it should be since there is no way to create these # files if you do not have access to the machine running resend. # This mechanism will be replaced in a future version of # majordomo/resend. restrict_post =3D enewsletter.senders while enewsletter.senders (in the lists dir with permissions -rw-rw-r-- owned by majordomo:majordomo contains my email addresses in one line delimi= ted by a colon (:). Problem being ... when I send a message to the list, majordomo should be verifying the email address and given approval to send - but instead the list owner (myself) gets sent an BOUNCE/Approval required email. =0D I would prefer it to work this way as we are dealing with HTML messages! Any suggestions/ideas? Have I provided enough information? Cheers, James Taylor Network Engineer Alphawest Services Pty Ltd. E-Mail james.taylor@alphawest.com.au =A0 WA Regional Offices: Bunbury Unit 15 level 1, Leschenault Quays, 2 Austral Parade, Bunbury, WA, 6230. 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Alphawest collects, uses and stores information regarding its customers=0D from time to time in accordance with its privacy policy located on www.alph= awest.com.au=0D From majordomo-users-owner@greatcircle.com Wed Jun 14 03:54:36 2006 X-Original-To: majordomo-users@greatcircle.com X-Greylist: delayed 1628 seconds by postgrey-1.24 at mycroft; Wed, 14 Jun 2006 03:54:35 PDT Received: from zappa.brainiac.com (ZAPPA.BRAINIAC.com [68.15.48.189]) by mycroft.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7D27A21BD57 for ; Wed, 14 Jun 2006 03:54:35 -0700 (PDT) Received: from brainiac.com (fripp [192.168.1.9]) by zappa.brainiac.com (8.13.1/8.13.1) with SMTP id k5EAR6uQ022920 for ; Wed, 14 Jun 2006 06:27:06 -0400 Date: Wed, 14 Jun 2006 06:27:06 -0400 From: Joe Hartley To: majordomo-users@greatcircle.com Subject: Re: bounce vs. moderated list issue Message-Id: <20060614062706.668885c2.jh@brainiac.com> In-Reply-To: <6D42E2379C97E84A8B16B37609AB97F407875933@awperdcexch.alphawest.com.au> References: <6D42E2379C97E84A8B16B37609AB97F407875933@awperdcexch.alphawest.com.au> X-Mailer: Sylpheed version 1.0.3 (GTK+ 1.2.10; i686-pc-linux-gnu) X-Face: e<}kWVz7AOU%7Y[y%"Y%)jByI[9dsnKP{\??7E"4vTGx4){g\C&LaBmH1{dDNf0U_mPBv#c qp\nRqr]T^L:p_H=Tel/;Z$7-C/klmyQ*kB\{},N]n-7*sJ(dYlf(,?f2hekl"0$nD+~T-ZwNK~`oa n"I7[)O/_NOgn@]?b%=6SRU!]O5k9|OA]PF!qIvs>7sE3}Vr*eC|r""6/**uf3ak}Hm.HK$Cri^yyT BzeM Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Archive-Number: 200606/8 X-Sequence-Number: 5477 On Wed, 14 Jun 2006 14:47:43 +0800 "James Taylor" wrote: > while enewsletter.senders (in the lists dir with permissions -rw-rw-r-- > owned by majordomo:majordomo contains my email addresses in one line delimited by a colon (:). Make it so the list of approved users is one email address per line. That should do it for you. -- ====================================================================== Joe Hartley - UNIX/network Consultant - jh@brainiac.com Without deviation from the norm, "progress" is not possible. - FZappa From majordomo-users-owner@greatcircle.com Wed Jun 14 05:34:02 2006 X-Original-To: majordomo-users@greatcircle.com X-Greylist: delayed 946 seconds by postgrey-1.24 at mycroft; Wed, 14 Jun 2006 05:34:01 PDT Received: from mail.bcpl.net (mail.bcpl.net [204.255.212.10]) by mycroft.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id BC20621BD5B for ; Wed, 14 Jun 2006 05:34:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail.bcpl.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.bcpl.net (8.13.0/8.13.0) with ESMTP id k5ECIDJh026827 for ; Wed, 14 Jun 2006 08:18:13 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (fold@localhost) by mail.bcpl.net (8.13.0/8.13.0/Submit) with ESMTP id k5ECIDrx026824 for ; Wed, 14 Jun 2006 08:18:13 -0400 (EDT) X-Authentication-Warning: mail.bcpl.net: fold owned process doing -bs Date: Wed, 14 Jun 2006 08:18:13 -0400 (EDT) From: Chip Old X-X-Sender: fold@mail To: MAJORDOMO-USERS Subject: Re: bounce vs. moderated list issue In-Reply-To: <6D42E2379C97E84A8B16B37609AB97F407875933@awperdcexch.alphawest.com.au> Message-ID: References: <6D42E2379C97E84A8B16B37609AB97F407875933@awperdcexch.alphawest.com.au> X-Organization: BCPL.NET Internet Services X-Complaints-To: abuse@bcpl.net MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Archive-Number: 200606/9 X-Sequence-Number: 5478 On Wed, 14 Jun 2006 14:47 +0800, James Taylor wrote: > [much deleted] > > # restrict_post [restrict_post] (undef) > # If defined, only addresses listed in these files (colon or space > # separated) can post to the mailing list. By default, these files > # are relative to the lists directory. These files are also checked > # when get_access, index_access, info_access, intro_access, > # which_access, or who_access is set to 'list'. This is less useful > # than it seems it should be since there is no way to create these > # files if you do not have access to the machine running resend. > # This mechanism will be replaced in a future version of > # majordomo/resend. > restrict_post = enewsletter.senders > > while enewsletter.senders (in the lists dir with permissions -rw-rw-r-- > owned by majordomo:majordomo contains my email addresses in one line > delimited by a colon (:). Like any other Majordomo file, the one specified in restrict_post should contain one e-mail address per line. The phrase "only addresses listed in these files (colon or space separated) can post to the mailing list" is a bit ambiguous. It actually refers to multiple filenames in the restrict_post directive, not to the contents of the file(s). For example: restrict_post = enewsletter:enewsletter.senders would allow posting by anyone subscribed to the enewsletter list as well as by anyone (presumably non-subscribers) listed in the enewsletter.senders file. -- Chip Old (Francis E. Old) E-Mail: fold@bcpl.net BCPL Network Administrator Phone: 410-887-6180 BCPL.NET Internet Services Manager FAX: 410-887-2091 320 York Road Towson, MD 21204-5179 US From majordomo-users-owner@greatcircle.com Wed Jun 14 08:05:09 2006 X-Original-To: majordomo-users@greatcircle.com Received: from terminator.alphawest.com.au (ip099.net03.alphawest.com.au [203.14.127.99]) by mycroft.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B426329003C for ; Wed, 14 Jun 2006 08:05:06 -0700 (PDT) Received: from awperdcexch.alphawest.com.au ([203.14.124.177]) by terminator.alphawest.com.au with InterScan Message Security Suite; Wed, 14 Jun 2006 23:05:04 +0800 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.0.6603.0 content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: Re: bounce vs. moderated list issue Date: Wed, 14 Jun 2006 23:05:04 +0800 Message-ID: <6D42E2379C97E84A8B16B37609AB97F4057751BA@awperdcexch.alphawest.com.au> X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: Re: bounce vs. moderated list issue Thread-Index: AcaPw+puJDFbT43eQPWy299OPgGZLw== From: "James Taylor" To: X-imss-version: 2.040 X-imss-result: Passed X-imss-scanInfo: M:P L:E SM:0 X-imss-tmaseResult: TT:0 TS:0.0000 TC:00 TRN:0 TV:3.52.1006(14506.003) X-imss-scores: Clean:41.14400 C:2 M:4 S:5 R:5 X-imss-settings: Baseline:2 C:1 M:1 S:1 R:1 (0.1500 0.1500) X-Archive-Number: 200606/10 X-Sequence-Number: 5479 Thanks both Chip & Joe, this was the problem. Worked first time. James. Alphawest Disclaimer If this communication is not intended for you and you are not an authorised recipient of this email you are prohibited by law from dealing with or relying on the email or any file attachments. This prohibition includes reading, printing, copying, re-transmitting, disseminating, storing or in any other way dealing or acting in reliance on the information. If you have received this email in error, we request you contact Alphawest= =0D immediately by returning the email to postmaster@alphawest.com.au and destroy the original. This email is confidential and may contain privileged client information. Alphawest has taken reasonable steps to ensure the accuracy and integrity of all its communications, including electronic communications, but accepts no liability for materials transmitted. 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I know this is a config problem on my part but have found no mention of the fix on the net. Any help is appreciated. You can try it at phonelist@theotts.org as phonelist-list@theotts.org -- Regards, Bill Ott Email: Mailto://billott@theotts.org Website: http://www.theotts.org From majordomo-users-owner@greatcircle.com Mon Jun 26 05:26:58 2006 X-Original-To: majordomo-users@greatcircle.com Received: from mailgate.intershop.de (mailgate.intershop.de [217.17.202.241]) by mycroft.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B69A121BD5E for ; Mon, 26 Jun 2006 05:26:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: from jitsol10-3.it.j.intershop.de (rainer [10.0.88.130]) by mailgate.intershop.de (8.13.7/8.13.6) with ESMTP id k5QCQnMH006732 for ; Mon, 26 Jun 2006 14:26:49 +0200 Received: from jitsol10-3.it.j.intershop.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by jitsol10-3.it.j.intershop.de (8.13.6+Sun/8.13.6) with ESMTP id k5QCQnaa012302 for ; Mon, 26 Jun 2006 14:26:49 +0200 (MEST) Received: (from rainer@localhost) by jitsol10-3.it.j.intershop.de (8.13.6+Sun/8.13.6/Submit) id k5QCQnUC012301 for majordomo-users@greatcircle.com; Mon, 26 Jun 2006 14:26:49 +0200 (MEST) X-Authentication-Warning: jitsol10-3.it.j.intershop.de: rainer set sender to R.Sokoll@intershop.de using -f Date: Mon, 26 Jun 2006 14:26:49 +0200 From: Rainer Sokoll To: majordomo-users@greatcircle.com Subject: Re: Security problem with 94.4 Message-ID: <20060626122648.GJ9971@jitsol10-3.intershop.de> Mail-Followup-To: Rainer Sokoll , majordomo-users@greatcircle.com References: <449FD181.9080600@theotts.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <449FD181.9080600@theotts.org> X-War: is not the answer X-homepage: http://private.homepages.intershop.de/rainer X-pgp-fingerprint: A5 AC C6 70 DA 42 EB 8A 4F B3 65 31 28 C6 57 87 X-Geek-Code-1: -----BEGIN GEEK CODE BLOCK----- X-Geek-Code-2: Version: 3.1 X-Geek-Code-3: GCM$/C d- s: a C++ UL++++$ P->+++ L+++ E--- W+ N++ o-- K- w !O M- !V X-Geek-Code-4: PS+ PE Y+ PGP+ t- !5 X- R- tv- b+>+++ !DI D+ G e+++ h---- r+++ y+++ X-Geek-Code-5: ------END GEEK CODE BLOCK------ X-MimeOLE: Ole, Ole, Ole User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.11 X-Archive-Number: 200606/13 X-Sequence-Number: 5482 On Mon, Jun 26, 2006 at 08:22:25AM -0400, Bill Ott wrote: > I just discovered that even though my list is restricted to list member, > anyone can send mail to the list by appending "-list"to the end of the > list name. I know this is a config problem on my part but have found no > mention of the fix on the net. Any help is appreciated. You can try it > at phonelist@theotts.org as phonelist-list@theotts.org Dou you have phonelist-list in your aliases file? Rainer From majordomo-users-owner@greatcircle.com Mon Jun 26 05:44:17 2006 X-Original-To: majordomo-users@greatcircle.com Received: from wbor32.theotts.org (theotts.org [66.93.240.72]) by mycroft.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E854121BD6E for ; Mon, 26 Jun 2006 05:41:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.0.170] ([192.168.0.170]) (authenticated bits=0) by wbor32.theotts.org (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id k5QCfVRx015929 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5 bits=128 verify=NO) for ; Mon, 26 Jun 2006 08:41:31 -0400 Message-ID: <449FD5FB.6010003@theotts.org> Date: Mon, 26 Jun 2006 08:41:31 -0400 From: Bill Ott User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.4 (X11/20060614) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: majordomo-users@greatcircle.com Subject: Re: Security problem with 94.4 References: <449FD181.9080600@theotts.org> <20060626122648.GJ9971@jitsol10-3.intershop.de> In-Reply-To: <20060626122648.GJ9971@jitsol10-3.intershop.de> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Archive-Number: 200606/14 X-Sequence-Number: 5483 Rainer Sokoll wrote: > On Mon, Jun 26, 2006 at 08:22:25AM -0400, Bill Ott wrote: > > >> I just discovered that even though my list is restricted to list member, >> anyone can send mail to the list by appending "-list"to the end of the >> list name. I know this is a config problem on my part but have found no >> mention of the fix on the net. Any help is appreciated. You can try it >> at phonelist@theotts.org as phonelist-list@theotts.org >> > > Dou you have phonelist-list in your aliases file? > > Rainer > > es, as I understood the need. Here is my aliases for phonelist ###### definitions for majordomo list phonelist ## phonelist-owner: billott@theotts.org owner-phonelist: phonelist-owner phonelist-approval: phonelist-owner phonelist: "| /var/lib/majordomo/wrapper resend -l phonelist phonelist-list" phonelist-list :include:/var/lib/majordomo/lists/phonelist phonelist-request: "| /var/lib/majordomo/wrapper majordomo -l phonelist" -- Regards, Bill Ott Email: Mailto://billott@theotts.org Website: http://www.theotts.org From majordomo-users-owner@greatcircle.com Mon Jun 26 05:46:26 2006 X-Original-To: majordomo-users@greatcircle.com Received: from wbor32.theotts.org (theotts.org [66.93.240.72]) by mycroft.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B773E21BD62 for ; Mon, 26 Jun 2006 05:46:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.0.170] ([192.168.0.170]) (authenticated bits=0) by wbor32.theotts.org (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id k5QCkPRx015938 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5 bits=128 verify=NO); Mon, 26 Jun 2006 08:46:25 -0400 Message-ID: <449FD720.1090707@theotts.org> Date: Mon, 26 Jun 2006 08:46:24 -0400 From: Bill Ott User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.4 (X11/20060614) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Rainer Sokoll , majordomo-users@greatcircle.com Subject: Re: Security problem with 94.4 References: <449FD181.9080600@theotts.org> <20060626122648.GJ9971@jitsol10-3.intershop.de> <449FD3A6.2000605@theotts.org> <20060626123941.GK9971@jitsol10-3.intershop.de> In-Reply-To: <20060626123941.GK9971@jitsol10-3.intershop.de> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Archive-Number: 200606/15 X-Sequence-Number: 5484 Rainer Sokoll wrote: > On Mon, Jun 26, 2006 at 08:31:34AM -0400, Bill Ott wrote: > >> Rainer Sokoll wrote: >> > > >>> Dou you have phonelist-list in your aliases file? >>> > > >> Yes, as I understood the need. Here is my aliases for phonelist >> >> ###### definitions for majordomo list phonelist ## >> phonelist-owner: billott@theotts.org >> owner-phonelist: phonelist-owner >> phonelist-approval: phonelist-owner >> phonelist: "| /var/lib/majordomo/wrapper resend -l phonelist >> phonelist-list" >> phonelist-list :include:/var/lib/majordomo/lists/phonelist >> phonelist-request: "| /var/lib/majordomo/wrapper majordomo -l phonelist" >> > > OK, here ist is outgouing instead of list: > (the list address is begabt@rainix.jena.thur.de) > > -------8<------ > begabt: "|/usr/lib/majordomo/wrapper resend -l begabt -h rainix.jena.thur.de begabt-outgoing" > begabt-digest: begabt > begabt-outgoing: "|/usr/bin/bulk_mailer -maxdomains 1 -owner owner-begabt@rainix.jena.thur.de owner-begabt@rainix.jena.thur.de > /var/lib/majordomo/lists/begabt", > "|/usr/lib/majordomo/wrapper archive2.pl -a -m -f /var/lib/majordomo/archive/begabt/begabt.archive" > begabt-digest-outgoing: :include:/var/lib/majordomo/lists/begabt-digest > owner-begabt: rainer > owner-begabt-outgoing: owner-begabt > owner-begabt-digest: owner-begabt > owner-begabt-digest-outgoing: owner-begabt > begabt-request: "|/usr/lib/majordomo/wrapper request-answer begabt" > begabt-digest-request: "|/usr/lib/majordomo/wrapper request-answer begabt-digest" > begabt-approval: rainer > begabt-digest-approval: begabt-approval > -------8<------ > > But my MX does not accept mails for begabt-outgoing or > begabt-digest-outgoing ;-) > > Rainer > > How did you get you MX not to forward begabt-outgoing? -- Regards, Bill Ott Email: Mailto://billott@theotts.org Website: http://www.theotts.org From majordomo-users-owner@greatcircle.com Mon Jun 26 06:13:26 2006 X-Original-To: majordomo-users@greatcircle.com Received: from wbor32.theotts.org (theotts.org [66.93.240.72]) by mycroft.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B96E521BD6E for ; Mon, 26 Jun 2006 06:13:22 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.0.170] ([192.168.0.170]) (authenticated bits=0) by wbor32.theotts.org (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id k5QDDERx016016 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5 bits=128 verify=NO); Mon, 26 Jun 2006 09:13:15 -0400 Message-ID: <449FDD69.2040701@theotts.org> Date: Mon, 26 Jun 2006 09:13:13 -0400 From: Bill Ott User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.4 (X11/20060614) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Rainer Sokoll , majordomo-users@greatcircle.com Subject: Re: Security problem with 94.4 References: <449FD181.9080600@theotts.org> <20060626122648.GJ9971@jitsol10-3.intershop.de> <449FD3A6.2000605@theotts.org> <20060626123941.GK9971@jitsol10-3.intershop.de> <449FD720.1090707@theotts.org> <20060626125401.GA12367@jitsol10-3.intershop.de> In-Reply-To: <20060626125401.GA12367@jitsol10-3.intershop.de> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Archive-Number: 200606/16 X-Sequence-Number: 5485 Rainer Sokoll wrote: > On Mon, Jun 26, 2006 at 08:46:24AM -0400, Bill Ott wrote: > > >>> -------8<------ >>> begabt: "|/usr/lib/majordomo/wrapper resend -l begabt -h >>> rainix.jena.thur.de begabt-outgoing" >>> begabt-digest: begabt >>> begabt-outgoing: "|/usr/bin/bulk_mailer -maxdomains 1 -owner >>> owner-begabt@rainix.jena.thur.de owner-begabt@rainix.jena.thur.de >>> /var/lib/majordomo/lists/begabt", >>> "|/usr/lib/majordomo/wrapper archive2.pl -a -m -f >>> /var/lib/majordomo/archive/begabt/begabt.archive" >>> begabt-digest-outgoing: :include:/var/lib/majordomo/lists/begabt-digest >>> owner-begabt: rainer >>> owner-begabt-outgoing: owner-begabt >>> owner-begabt-digest: owner-begabt >>> owner-begabt-digest-outgoing: owner-begabt >>> begabt-request: "|/usr/lib/majordomo/wrapper request-answer begabt" >>> begabt-digest-request: "|/usr/lib/majordomo/wrapper request-answer >>> begabt-digest" >>> begabt-approval: rainer >>> begabt-digest-approval: begabt-approval >>> -------8<------ >>> >>> But my MX does not accept mails for begabt-outgoing or >>> begabt-digest-outgoing ;-) >>> >>> Rainer >>> >>> >>> >> How did you get you MX not to forward begabt-outgoing? >> > > I have a list of valid addresses on my MX. begabt-outgoing is needed by > majordomo only, so it is not listed in the valid addresses. No forward > needed. > > Rainer > > My understanding was that the :include: was passed to sendmail for processing. That is where my exposure is. I just sent a note to begabt-digest-outgoing. Hopefully it did not go through. If it did, your exposure is just in a different place. -- Regards, Bill Ott Email: Mailto://billott@theotts.org Website: http://www.theotts.org From majordomo-users-owner@greatcircle.com Tue Jun 27 02:45:02 2006 X-Original-To: majordomo-users@greatcircle.com Received: from mail.sonny.com (mail.sonny.com [70.58.223.141]) by mycroft.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 37EA621BD8C for ; Tue, 27 Jun 2006 02:45:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [127.0.0.1] (father-g.sonny.com [192.168.1.178]) by magnia.sonny.com (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 Patch 1 (built Aug 19 2002)) with ESMTP id <0J1H00A1M6NPK8@magnia.sonny.com> for majordomo-users@greatcircle.com; Mon, 26 Jun 2006 11:19:08 -0500 (CDT) Date: Mon, 26 Jun 2006 11:15:07 -0500 From: Daniel Liston Subject: Re: Security problem with 94.4 In-reply-to: <449FD181.9080600@theotts.org> To: Bill Ott Cc: majordomo-users@greatcircle.com Message-id: <44A0080B.1060000@sonny.org> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-Accept-Language: en-us, en User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.2) Gecko/20040804 Netscape/7.2 (ax) References: <449FD181.9080600@theotts.org> X-Archive-Number: 200606/17 X-Sequence-Number: 5486 Bill Ott wrote: > I just discovered that even though my list is restricted to list member, > anyone can send mail to the list by appending "-list"to the end of the > list name. I know this is a config problem on my part but have found no > mention of the fix on the net. Any help is appreciated. You can try it > at phonelist@theotts.org as phonelist-list@theotts.org > If sendmail is your MTA, you can use the virtusertable to reject messages sent directly to your -list aliases. phonelist-list@theotts.org error:nouser User unknown Virtusertable has to be enabled in the sendmail.cf, and you will need to use makemap to create a hash or db from the raw virtusertable for sendmail to recognize and use it. It is also better to use some other (unknown, or at least not to popular) extension to your list delivery aliases, and prevent sendmail from adding the name of the alias to "Received:" lines by appending a comma "," or ",nobody" to your delivery alias too. The latter assumes "nobody" to be and alias to /dev/null. Dan Liston From majordomo-users-owner@greatcircle.com Tue Jun 27 05:42:57 2006 X-Original-To: majordomo-users@greatcircle.com Received: from wbor32.theotts.org (theotts.org [66.93.240.72]) by mycroft.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B783C21BD95 for ; Tue, 27 Jun 2006 05:42:56 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.0.133] ([192.168.0.133]) (authenticated bits=0) by wbor32.theotts.org (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id k5RCgskn003834 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5 bits=128 verify=NO); Tue, 27 Jun 2006 08:42:54 -0400 Message-ID: <44A127CE.8080604@theotts.org> Date: Tue, 27 Jun 2006 08:42:54 -0400 From: Bill Ott User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.4 (Windows/20060516) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Daniel Liston Cc: majordomo-users@greatcircle.com Subject: Re: Security problem with 94.4 References: <449FD181.9080600@theotts.org> <44A0080B.1060000@sonny.org> In-Reply-To: <44A0080B.1060000@sonny.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Archive-Number: 200606/18 X-Sequence-Number: 5487 Daniel Liston wrote: > Bill Ott wrote: > >> I just discovered that even though my list is restricted to list member, >> anyone can send mail to the list by appending "-list"to the end of the >> list name. I know this is a config problem on my part but have found no >> mention of the fix on the net. Any help is appreciated. You can try it >> at phonelist@theotts.org as phonelist-list@theotts.org >> >> > > If sendmail is your MTA, you can use the virtusertable to reject messages > sent directly to your -list aliases. > > phonelist-list@theotts.org error:nouser User unknown > > Virtusertable has to be enabled in the sendmail.cf, and you will need to > use makemap to create a hash or db from the raw virtusertable for sendmail > to recognize and use it. > > It is also better to use some other (unknown, or at least not to popular) > extension to your list delivery aliases, and prevent sendmail from adding > the name of the alias to "Received:" lines by appending a comma "," or > ",nobody" to your delivery alias too. The latter assumes "nobody" to be > and alias to /dev/null. > > Dan Liston > > Thanks, Dan. It works great. One additional question. I tried "-list@" in virtusertable in the hopes that it would block the hole in all of my lists. It appears that sendmail treated it as the complete name so phonelist-list passed through. Can I use regexp to cover all of the lists? -- Regards, Bill Ott Email: Mailto://billott@theotts.org Website: http://www.theotts.org From majordomo-users-owner@greatcircle.com Tue Jun 27 09:32:38 2006 X-Original-To: majordomo-users@greatcircle.com X-Greylist: delayed 2338 seconds by postgrey-1.24 at mycroft; Tue, 27 Jun 2006 09:32:37 PDT Received: from S1.cableone.net (s1.cableone.net [24.116.0.227]) by mycroft.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id EEE9B21BD8E for ; Tue, 27 Jun 2006 09:32:37 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [127.0.0.1] (unverified [24.116.60.190]) by S1.cableone.net (CableOne SMTP Service S1) with ESMTP id 64466403 for multiple; Tue, 27 Jun 2006 08:54:06 -0700 Message-ID: <44A1548B.8070703@sonny.org> Date: Tue, 27 Jun 2006 10:53:47 -0500 From: Daniel Liston User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.2) Gecko/20040804 Netscape/7.2 (ax) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Bill Ott Cc: majordomo-users@greatcircle.com Subject: Re: Security problem with 94.4 References: <449FD181.9080600@theotts.org> <44A0080B.1060000@sonny.org> <44A127CE.8080604@theotts.org> In-Reply-To: <44A127CE.8080604@theotts.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-NotAscii: charset=us-ascii X-IP-stats: Incoming Last 5, First 92, in=60, out=0, spam=0 X-External-IP: 24.116.60.190 X-Abuse-Info: Send abuse complaints to abuse@cableone.net X-Archive-Number: 200606/19 X-Sequence-Number: 5488 Bill Ott wrote: > Daniel Liston wrote: > >> Bill Ott wrote: >> >> >>> I just discovered that even though my list is restricted to list member, >>> anyone can send mail to the list by appending "-list"to the end of the >>> list name. I know this is a config problem on my part but have found no >>> mention of the fix on the net. Any help is appreciated. You can try it >>> at phonelist@theotts.org as phonelist-list@theotts.org >>> >>> >> >> >> If sendmail is your MTA, you can use the virtusertable to reject messages >> sent directly to your -list aliases. >> >> phonelist-list@theotts.org error:nouser User unknown >> >> Virtusertable has to be enabled in the sendmail.cf, and you will need to >> use makemap to create a hash or db from the raw virtusertable for >> sendmail >> to recognize and use it. >> >> It is also better to use some other (unknown, or at least not to popular) >> extension to your list delivery aliases, and prevent sendmail from adding >> the name of the alias to "Received:" lines by appending a comma "," or >> ",nobody" to your delivery alias too. The latter assumes "nobody" to be >> and alias to /dev/null. >> >> Dan Liston >> >> > > Thanks, Dan. It works great. One additional question. I tried "-list@" > in virtusertable in the hopes that it would block the hole in all of my > lists. It appears that sendmail treated it as the complete name so > phonelist-list passed through. Can I use regexp to cover all of the lists? > To the best of my knowledge, sendmail does not have a regex engine for the virtusertable. I did cut my teeth on sendmail, but I have not kept up to date with it for the last few years. Maybe someone on one of the sendmail support lists can answer more authoritively. Dan Liston