From majordomo-users-owner@greatcircle.com Mon Oct 2 13:25:19 2006 X-Original-To: majordomo-users@greatcircle.com X-Greylist: delayed 1220 seconds by postgrey-1.24 at mycroft; Mon, 02 Oct 2006 13:25:17 PDT Received: from mail1.gmhwh.org (mail1.gmhwh.org [216.49.176.50]) by mycroft.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5202119C8C9 for ; Mon, 2 Oct 2006 13:25:17 -0700 (PDT) Received: from inet-wh1.gmhwh.org (chqpvun1110.wh.ldsglobal.net [10.97.38.48]) by mail1.gmhwh.org (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id k92K4hsv008639 for ; Mon, 2 Oct 2006 14:04:43 -0600 Received: from WH-SMTP1-MTA by inet-wh1.gmhwh.org with Novell_GroupWise; Mon, 02 Oct 2006 14:04:43 -0600 Message-Id: <45211C770200009D00032882@inet-wh1.gmhwh.org> X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise Internet Agent 7.0.1 Date: Mon, 02 Oct 2006 14:04:39 -0600 From: "Charlie Smith" To: Cc: "Daniel Liston" Subject: messages being duplicated > 100 times References: <449FD181.9080600@theotts.org> <44A0080B.1060000@sonny.org> <44A127CE.8080604@theotts.org> <44A1548B.8070703@sonny.org> In-Reply-To: <44A1548B.8070703@sonny.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline X-Disclaimer: True X-Proofpoint-Virus-Version: vendor=fsecure engine=4.65.5446:2.3.11,1.2.37,4.0.164 definitions=2006-10-02_09:2006-09-29,2006-10-02,2006-10-02 signatures=0 X-Archive-Number: 200610/1 X-Sequence-Number: 5529 We switched to the GW relay to send out messages on 9/22/06. A message sent out to an MD mail list on 9/29/06 10:10 was rec'd more that 100 times by recipient. My sendmail logs show multiple entries where it appears that the email is being accepted for delivery and sent!? Please assist. Charlie ---------------------------------------------------------------------- NOTICE: This email message is for the sole use of the intended recipient(s) and may contain confidential and privileged information. Any unauthorized review, use, disclosure or distribution is prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender by reply email and destroy all copies of the original message. From majordomo-users-owner@greatcircle.com Mon Oct 2 14:18:50 2006 X-Original-To: majordomo-users@greatcircle.com Received: from mail2.gmhwh.org (mail2.gmhwh.org [216.49.176.51]) by mycroft.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B96AE21BD6D for ; Mon, 2 Oct 2006 14:18:49 -0700 (PDT) Received: from inet-wh1.gmhwh.org (chqpvun1110.wh.ldsglobal.net [10.97.38.48]) by mail2.gmhwh.org (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id k92LIfrh030813 for ; Mon, 2 Oct 2006 15:18:41 -0600 Received: from WH-SMTP1-MTA by inet-wh1.gmhwh.org with Novell_GroupWise; Mon, 02 Oct 2006 15:18:41 -0600 Message-Id: <45212DCB0200009D000328D8@inet-wh1.gmhwh.org> X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise Internet Agent 7.0.1 Date: Mon, 02 Oct 2006 15:18:35 -0600 From: "Charlie Smith" To: "Daniel Liston" Cc: Subject: Re: messages being duplicated > 100 times References: <449FD181.9080600@theotts.org> <44A0080B.1060000@sonny.org> <44A127CE.8080604@theotts.org> <44A1548B.8070703@sonny.org> <45211C770200009D00032882@inet-wh1.gmhwh.org> <452180CE.30107@sonny.org> In-Reply-To: <452180CE.30107@sonny.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline X-Disclaimer: True X-Proofpoint-Virus-Version: vendor=fsecure engine=4.65.5446:2.3.11,1.2.37,4.0.164 definitions=2006-10-02_10:2006-09-29,2006-10-02,2006-10-02 signatures=0 X-Archive-Number: 200610/2 X-Sequence-Number: 5530 GW =3D GroupWise function: To transfer/relay mail to recipients. Can't tell if stuck in sendmail queue. It appears so. Although sendmail logs indicate message sent to GW relay and accepted for delivery, there appears a sendmail log entry =BD hour later indicating the message is being sent/accepted for delivery again. Not sure of last question: Is sendmail able to complete a queue run within the period set between queue runs? ie. -q30m Charlie >>> Daniel Liston 10/2/2006 3:12:46 PM >>> Your message indicates some excitement/frustration. What is a GW gateway? What is it's function? Is the message stuck in the sendmail queue on the majordomo system, or has it been emptied by virtue of relaying through the GW? Is sendmail able to complete a queue run within the period set between queue runs? ie. -q30m Dan Liston Charlie Smith wrote: > We switched to the GW relay to send out messages on 9/22/06.=20 > A message sent out to an MD mail list on 9/29/06 10:10=20 > was rec'd more that 100 times by recipient. >=20 > My sendmail logs show multiple entries where it appears that the > email is being accepted for delivery and sent!? >=20 > Please assist. >=20 > Charlie >=20 >=20=20 >=20 >=20 > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > NOTICE: This email message is for the sole use of the intended recipient(= s) and may contain confidential and privileged information. Any unauthorize= d review, use, disclosure or distribution is prohibited. If you are not the= intended recipient, please contact the sender by reply email and destroy a= ll copies of the original message. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- NOTICE: This email message is for the sole use of the intended recipient(s)= and may contain confidential and privileged information. Any unauthorized = review, use, disclosure or distribution is prohibited. If you are not the i= ntended recipient, please contact the sender by reply email and destroy all= copies of the original message. From majordomo-users-owner@greatcircle.com Mon Oct 2 14:41:01 2006 X-Original-To: majordomo-users@greatcircle.com Received: from mail2.gmhwh.org (mail2.gmhwh.org [216.49.176.51]) by mycroft.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id EC61721BD90 for ; Mon, 2 Oct 2006 14:41:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: from inet-wh1.gmhwh.org (chqpvun1110.wh.ldsglobal.net [10.97.38.48]) by mail2.gmhwh.org (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id k92Lf0Bp007670 for ; Mon, 2 Oct 2006 15:41:00 -0600 Received: from WH-SMTP1-MTA by inet-wh1.gmhwh.org with Novell_GroupWise; Mon, 02 Oct 2006 15:41:00 -0600 Message-Id: <452133010200009D000328E8@inet-wh1.gmhwh.org> X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise Internet Agent 7.0.1 Date: Mon, 02 Oct 2006 15:40:49 -0600 From: "Charlie Smith" To: "Daniel Liston" Cc: Subject: Re: messages being duplicated > 100 times References: <449FD181.9080600@theotts.org> <44A0080B.1060000@sonny.org> <44A127CE.8080604@theotts.org> <44A1548B.8070703@sonny.org> <45211C770200009D00032882@inet-wh1.gmhwh.org> <452180CE.30107@sonny.org> In-Reply-To: <452180CE.30107@sonny.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline X-Disclaimer: True X-Proofpoint-Virus-Version: vendor=fsecure engine=4.65.5446:2.3.11,1.2.37,4.0.164 definitions=2006-10-02_10:2006-09-29,2006-10-02,2006-10-02 signatures=0 X-Archive-Number: 200610/3 X-Sequence-Number: 5531 Looks like queue runs are completing between sends. Sendmail log: Oct 2 03:10:09 fchportal sendmail[2882]: k9299xOf002835: done; delay=00:00:10, ntries=1 ... Oct 2 03:39:59 fchportal sendmail[3471]: NOQUEUE: connect from fch.ldschurch.org [127.0.0.1] As you can see by the timestamp above. Charlie >>> Daniel Liston 10/2/2006 3:12:46 PM >>> Your message indicates some excitement/frustration. What is a GW gateway? What is it's function? Is the message stuck in the sendmail queue on the majordomo system, or has it been emptied by virtue of relaying through the GW? Is sendmail able to complete a queue run within the period set between queue runs? ie. -q30m Dan Liston Charlie Smith wrote: > We switched to the GW relay to send out messages on 9/22/06. > A message sent out to an MD mail list on 9/29/06 10:10 > was rec'd more that 100 times by recipient. > > My sendmail logs show multiple entries where it appears that the > email is being accepted for delivery and sent!? > > Please assist. > > Charlie > > > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > NOTICE: This email message is for the sole use of the intended recipient(s) and may contain confidential and privileged information. Any unauthorized review, use, disclosure or distribution is prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender by reply email and destroy all copies of the original message. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- NOTICE: This email message is for the sole use of the intended recipient(s) and may contain confidential and privileged information. Any unauthorized review, use, disclosure or distribution is prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender by reply email and destroy all copies of the original message. From majordomo-users-owner@greatcircle.com Mon Oct 2 15:06:08 2006 X-Original-To: majordomo-users@greatcircle.com X-Greylist: delayed 3192 seconds by postgrey-1.24 at mycroft; Mon, 02 Oct 2006 15:06:07 PDT Received: from mail.sonny.com (mail.sonny.com [70.58.223.141]) by mycroft.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9C1BB19C819 for ; Mon, 2 Oct 2006 15:06:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [127.0.0.1] (names.sonny.com [70.58.223.137]) by magnia.sonny.com (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 Patch 1 (built Aug 19 2002)) with ESMTP id <0J6J00A293T559@magnia.sonny.com> for majordomo-users@greatcircle.com; Mon, 02 Oct 2006 17:00:44 -0500 (CDT) Date: Mon, 02 Oct 2006 17:06:02 -0500 From: Daniel Liston Subject: Re: messages being duplicated > 100 times In-reply-to: <45212DCB0200009D000328D8@inet-wh1.gmhwh.org> To: Charlie Smith Cc: majordomo-users@greatcircle.com Message-id: <45218D4A.4020703@sonny.org> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 8BIT User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.7 (Windows/20060909) References: <449FD181.9080600@theotts.org> <44A0080B.1060000@sonny.org> <44A127CE.8080604@theotts.org> <44A1548B.8070703@sonny.org> <45211C770200009D00032882@inet-wh1.gmhwh.org> <452180CE.30107@sonny.org> <45212DCB0200009D000328D8@inet-wh1.gmhwh.org> X-Archive-Number: 200610/4 X-Sequence-Number: 5532 Hi Charlie, This is a symptom of sendmail not completing a queue run before the next scheduled run. By default, sendmail does a run every 30 minutes or one hour. This is determined by the argument to the sendmail daemon when it starts. /usr/lib/sendmail -q30m or /usr/sbin/sendmail -q1h. If the majordomo machine's sendmail queue is empty between runs, the next place to look for a stuck message is on the GroupWise relay. Dan Liston Charlie Smith wrote: > GW = GroupWise > function: To transfer/relay mail to recipients. > > Can't tell if stuck in sendmail queue. It appears so. > Although sendmail logs indicate message sent to GW relay > and accepted for delivery, there appears a sendmail log entry > ˝ hour later indicating the message is being sent/accepted for delivery > again. > Not sure of last question: > Is sendmail > able to complete a queue run within the period set between > queue runs? ie. -q30m > > > Charlie > >>>> Daniel Liston 10/2/2006 3:12:46 PM >>> > Your message indicates some excitement/frustration. What is > a GW gateway? What is it's function? Is the message stuck > in the sendmail queue on the majordomo system, or has it been > emptied by virtue of relaying through the GW? Is sendmail > able to complete a queue run within the period set between > queue runs? ie. -q30m > > Dan Liston > > Charlie Smith wrote: >> We switched to the GW relay to send out messages on 9/22/06. >> A message sent out to an MD mail list on 9/29/06 10:10 >> was rec'd more that 100 times by recipient. >> >> My sendmail logs show multiple entries where it appears that the >> email is being accepted for delivery and sent!? >> >> Please assist. >> >> Charlie >> >> >> >> >> ---------------------------------------------------------------------- >> NOTICE: This email message is for the sole use of the intended recipient(s) and may contain confidential and privileged information. Any unauthorized review, use, disclosure or distribution is prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender by reply email and destroy all copies of the original message. > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > NOTICE: This email message is for the sole use of the intended recipient(s) and may contain confidential and privileged information. Any unauthorized review, use, disclosure or distribution is prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender by reply email and destroy all copies of the original message. From majordomo-users-owner@greatcircle.com Mon Oct 2 16:13:00 2006 X-Original-To: majordomo-users@greatcircle.com Received: from mail.sonny.com (mail.sonny.com [70.58.223.141]) by mycroft.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4B70019C9BD for ; Mon, 2 Oct 2006 16:12:56 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [127.0.0.1] (names.sonny.com [70.58.223.137]) by magnia.sonny.com (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 Patch 1 (built Aug 19 2002)) with ESMTP id <0J6J00A1W1CE1T@magnia.sonny.com> for majordomo-users@greatcircle.com; Mon, 02 Oct 2006 16:07:29 -0500 (CDT) Date: Mon, 02 Oct 2006 16:12:46 -0500 From: Daniel Liston Subject: Re: messages being duplicated > 100 times In-reply-to: <45211C770200009D00032882@inet-wh1.gmhwh.org> To: Charlie Smith Cc: majordomo-users@greatcircle.com Message-id: <452180CE.30107@sonny.org> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.7 (Windows/20060909) References: <449FD181.9080600@theotts.org> <44A0080B.1060000@sonny.org> <44A127CE.8080604@theotts.org> <44A1548B.8070703@sonny.org> <45211C770200009D00032882@inet-wh1.gmhwh.org> X-Archive-Number: 200610/5 X-Sequence-Number: 5533 Your message indicates some excitement/frustration. What is a GW gateway? What is it's function? Is the message stuck in the sendmail queue on the majordomo system, or has it been emptied by virtue of relaying through the GW? Is sendmail able to complete a queue run within the period set between queue runs? ie. -q30m Dan Liston Charlie Smith wrote: > We switched to the GW relay to send out messages on 9/22/06. > A message sent out to an MD mail list on 9/29/06 10:10 > was rec'd more that 100 times by recipient. > > My sendmail logs show multiple entries where it appears that the > email is being accepted for delivery and sent!? > > Please assist. > > Charlie > > > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > NOTICE: This email message is for the sole use of the intended recipient(s) and may contain confidential and privileged information. Any unauthorized review, use, disclosure or distribution is prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender by reply email and destroy all copies of the original message. From majordomo-users-owner@greatcircle.com Tue Oct 3 06:30:04 2006 X-Original-To: majordomo-users@greatcircle.com Received: from mail1.gmhwh.org (mail1.gmhwh.org [216.49.176.50]) by mycroft.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id EBFED21BD99 for ; Tue, 3 Oct 2006 06:29:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: from inet-wh1.gmhwh.org (chqpvun1110.wh.ldsglobal.net [10.97.38.48]) by mail1.gmhwh.org (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id k93DTuUm008317 for ; Tue, 3 Oct 2006 07:29:56 -0600 Received: from WH-SMTP1-MTA by inet-wh1.gmhwh.org with Novell_GroupWise; Tue, 03 Oct 2006 07:29:56 -0600 Message-Id: <4522116B0200009D000329A1@inet-wh1.gmhwh.org> X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise Internet Agent 7.0.1 Date: Tue, 03 Oct 2006 07:29:47 -0600 From: "Charlie Smith" To: "Daniel Liston" Cc: Subject: Re: messages being duplicated > 100 times References: <449FD181.9080600@theotts.org> <44A0080B.1060000@sonny.org> <44A127CE.8080604@theotts.org> <44A1548B.8070703@sonny.org> <45211C770200009D00032882@inet-wh1.gmhwh.org> <452180CE.30107@sonny.org> <45212DCB0200009D000328D8@inet-wh1.gmhwh.org> <45218D4A.4020703@sonny.org> In-Reply-To: <45218D4A.4020703@sonny.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline X-Disclaimer: True X-Proofpoint-Virus-Version: vendor=fsecure engine=4.65.5446:2.3.11,1.2.37,4.0.164 definitions=2006-10-03_04:2006-09-29,2006-10-03,2006-10-03 signatures=0 X-Archive-Number: 200610/6 X-Sequence-Number: 5534 Last evening I changed contents of list so that only account listed is mine. So, now, I'm getting email every 30 minutes. Thanks for advice. MD sendm= ail queue is empty between runs. I've contacted our email support team to advise to = check GW relay queue for stuck message. Thanks, Charlie >>> Daniel Liston 10/2/2006 4:06:02 PM >>> Hi Charlie, This is a symptom of sendmail not completing a queue run before the next scheduled run. By default, sendmail does a run every 30 minutes or one hour. This is determined by the argument to the sendmail daemon when it starts. /usr/lib/sendmail -q30m or /usr/sbin/sendmail -q1h. If the majordomo machine's sendmail queue is empty between runs, the next place to look for a stuck message is on the GroupWise relay. Dan Liston Charlie Smith wrote: > GW =3D GroupWise > function: To transfer/relay mail to recipients. >=20 > Can't tell if stuck in sendmail queue. It appears so. > Although sendmail logs indicate message sent to GW relay > and accepted for delivery, there appears a sendmail log entry > =BD hour later indicating the message is being sent/accepted for delivery > again. > Not sure of last question: > Is sendmail > able to complete a queue run within the period set between > queue runs? ie. -q30m >=20 >=20 > Charlie >=20 >>>> Daniel Liston 10/2/2006 3:12:46 PM >>> > Your message indicates some excitement/frustration. What is > a GW gateway? What is it's function? Is the message stuck > in the sendmail queue on the majordomo system, or has it been > emptied by virtue of relaying through the GW? Is sendmail > able to complete a queue run within the period set between > queue runs? ie. -q30m >=20 > Dan Liston >=20 > Charlie Smith wrote: >> We switched to the GW relay to send out messages on 9/22/06.=20 >> A message sent out to an MD mail list on 9/29/06 10:10=20 >> was rec'd more that 100 times by recipient. >> >> My sendmail logs show multiple entries where it appears that the >> email is being accepted for delivery and sent!? >> >> Please assist. >> >> Charlie >> >>=20=20 >> >> >> ---------------------------------------------------------------------- >> NOTICE: This email message is for the sole use of the intended recipient= (s) and may contain confidential and privileged information. Any unauthoriz= ed review, use, disclosure or distribution is prohibited. If you are not th= e intended recipient, please contact the sender by reply email and destroy = all copies of the original message. >=20 >=20 > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > NOTICE: This email message is for the sole use of the intended recipient(= s) and may contain confidential and privileged information. Any unauthorize= d review, use, disclosure or distribution is prohibited. If you are not the= intended recipient, please contact the sender by reply email and destroy a= ll copies of the original message. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- NOTICE: This email message is for the sole use of the intended recipient(s)= and may contain confidential and privileged information. Any unauthorized = review, use, disclosure or distribution is prohibited. If you are not the i= ntended recipient, please contact the sender by reply email and destroy all= copies of the original message. From majordomo-users-owner@greatcircle.com Thu Oct 12 07:00:08 2006 X-Original-To: majordomo-users@greatcircle.com X-Greylist: delayed 131 seconds by postgrey-1.24 at mycroft; Thu, 12 Oct 2006 07:00:05 PDT Received: from moroni.ourldsfamily.com (ourldsfamily.com [198.60.114.90]) by mycroft.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id DFCA221BD69 for ; Thu, 12 Oct 2006 07:00:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: from webmail.ourldsfamily.com (moroni0 [172.20.20.2]) by moroni.ourldsfamily.com (8.13.7/8.13.7) with ESMTP id k9CDvp3h021518 for ; Thu, 12 Oct 2006 07:57:52 -0600 Received: from ats ([207.173.117.242]) (SquirrelMail authenticated user karlp) by webmail.ourldsfamily.com with HTTP; Thu, 12 Oct 2006 07:57:52 -0600 (MDT) Message-ID: <41285.207.173.117.242.1160661472.squirrel@webmail.ourldsfamily.com> Date: Thu, 12 Oct 2006 07:57:52 -0600 (MDT) Subject: Strange Character in Email Address From: karlp@ourldsfamily.com To: "Majordomo Users" User-Agent: SquirrelMail/1.4.7 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Importance: Normal X-Archive-Number: 200610/7 X-Sequence-Number: 5535 Okay, that was not Real accurate. an ampersand isn't a strange character, but a member of one of our email groups listed her email address as "John & Mary ". Her emails to the group didn't make it through. We use MD 1.94.5 on Fedora Core 4 "out of the box", which includes dovecot. I applied the MIME/HTML patch some time ago but haven't seen this particular issue and actually didn't suspect it. I asked her to take the amerpsand out of the email address and give it a test and her email started getting to the group. Any ideas/thoughts? Thanks, -- karl _/ _/ _/ _/_/_/ ____________ __o _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ ____________ _-\<._ _/_/ _/ _/_/_/ (_)/ (_) _/ _/ _/ _/ ...................... _/ _/ arl _/_/_/ _/ earson KarlP@ourldsfamily.com --- Senior Consulting Sys/DB Analyst http://consulting.ourldsfamily.com --- My Thoughts on Terrorism In America right after 9/11/2001: http://www.ourldsfamily.com/wtc.shtml --- The world is a dangerous place to live... not because of the people who are evil, but because of the people who don't do anything about it. - Albert Einstein --- From majordomo-users-owner@greatcircle.com Thu Oct 12 18:10:49 2006 X-Original-To: majordomo-users@greatcircle.com Received: from mail.sonny.com (mail.sonny.com [70.58.223.141]) by mycroft.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2CD0C21BE47 for ; Thu, 12 Oct 2006 18:10:48 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [127.0.0.1] (father.sonny.com [192.168.1.78]) by magnia.sonny.com (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 Patch 1 (built Aug 19 2002)) with ESMTP id <0J7100209V86S6@magnia.sonny.com> for majordomo-users@greatcircle.com; Thu, 12 Oct 2006 20:09:44 -0500 (CDT) Date: Thu, 12 Oct 2006 20:11:39 -0500 From: Daniel Liston Subject: Re: Strange Character in Email Address In-reply-to: <41285.207.173.117.242.1160661472.squirrel@webmail.ourldsfamily.com> To: karlp@ourldsfamily.com Cc: Majordomo Users Message-id: <452EE7CB.9020902@sonny.org> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.7 (Windows/20060909) X-Enigmail-Version: 0.94.0.0 References: <41285.207.173.117.242.1160661472.squirrel@webmail.ourldsfamily.com> X-Archive-Number: 200610/8 X-Sequence-Number: 5536 What happens if she uses "John&Mary"? I wonder if this is somehow related to changes in perl or a majordomo bug related to storing email comments in the membership file? I know I used to have email addresses like mom&dad@example.com in some of my lists, but I always strip off the comment portions of addresses by using the strip = yes setting in the mailing list's .config file. Since the To: field of the header does not contain the list member's name anyway, I see no point in cluttering the addresses with comments. On the other hand, when a list is personal or private, the comments do help decrypt some of the weird addresses out there. Have you ever noticed how /etc/aliases never uses comments in an email address? ;) Dan Liston karlp@ourldsfamily.com wrote: > Okay, that was not Real accurate. an ampersand isn't a strange character, but > a member of one of our email groups listed her email address as "John & Mary > ". Her emails to the group didn't make it through. > > We use MD 1.94.5 on Fedora Core 4 "out of the box", which includes dovecot. > > I applied the MIME/HTML patch some time ago but haven't seen this particular > issue and actually didn't suspect it. I asked her to take the amerpsand out of > the email address and give it a test and her email started getting to the > group. > > Any ideas/thoughts? > > Thanks, > From majordomo-users-owner@greatcircle.com Thu Oct 12 20:30:24 2006 X-Original-To: majordomo-users@greatcircle.com Received: from moroni.ourldsfamily.com (ourldsfamily.com [198.60.114.90]) by mycroft.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3F79921BD53 for ; Thu, 12 Oct 2006 20:30:23 -0700 (PDT) Received: from webmail.ourldsfamily.com (moroni0 [172.20.20.2]) by moroni.ourldsfamily.com (8.13.7/8.13.7) with ESMTP id k9D3UJlC011590; Thu, 12 Oct 2006 21:30:20 -0600 Received: from ourldsfamily.com ([198.60.114.90]) (SquirrelMail authenticated user karlp) by webmail.ourldsfamily.com with HTTP; Thu, 12 Oct 2006 21:30:20 -0600 (MDT) Message-ID: <13042.198.60.114.90.1160710220.squirrel@webmail.ourldsfamily.com> In-Reply-To: <452EE7CB.9020902@sonny.org> References: <41285.207.173.117.242.1160661472.squirrel@webmail.ourldsfamily.com> <452EE7CB.9020902@sonny.org> Date: Thu, 12 Oct 2006 21:30:20 -0600 (MDT) Subject: Re: Strange Character in Email Address From: karlp@ourldsfamily.com To: "Daniel Liston" Cc: "Majordomo Users" User-Agent: SquirrelMail/1.4.7 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Importance: Normal X-Archive-Number: 200610/9 X-Sequence-Number: 5537 All of our email groups are private and we store comments with the email addresses to give us a more personal flavor. One thing that's interesting is that she gets all the emails, but can't send email to the group, until taking the ampersand out. I know perl doesn't like the use of the ampersand unless it's escaped, so maybe that has something to do with it... As long as it works, I'm not going to complain, and finding the solution that easilly was a bit nicer than other experiences I've given some members, like figuring out that the Incredimail client reverses the order of MIME and plain text in an HTML email so the HTML stripping plugin I use with 1.94.5 strips the whole email out. That took some digging. I've never noticed the format of /etc/aliases... My 1.94.5 aliases is separate, requiring a different syntax in /etc/mail/sendmail.mc but I prefer to keep it separate because both are extensive. Thanks, Karl On Thu, October 12, 2006 7:11 pm, Daniel Liston wrote: > What happens if she uses "John&Mary"? > > I wonder if this is somehow related to changes in perl > or a majordomo bug related to storing email comments in > the membership file? I know I used to have email addresses > like mom&dad@example.com in some of my lists, but I always > strip off the comment portions of addresses by using the > strip = yes > setting in the mailing list's .config file. Since the To: > field of the header does not contain the list member's name > anyway, I see no point in cluttering the addresses with > comments. On the other hand, when a list is personal or > private, the comments do help decrypt some of the weird > addresses out there. > > Have you ever noticed how /etc/aliases never uses comments > in an email address? ;) > > Dan Liston > > karlp@ourldsfamily.com wrote: >> Okay, that was not Real accurate. an ampersand isn't a strange character, >> but >> a member of one of our email groups listed her email address as "John & Mary >> ". Her emails to the group didn't make it through. >> >> We use MD 1.94.5 on Fedora Core 4 "out of the box", which includes dovecot. >> >> I applied the MIME/HTML patch some time ago but haven't seen this particular >> issue and actually didn't suspect it. I asked her to take the amerpsand out >> of >> the email address and give it a test and her email started getting to the >> group. >> >> Any ideas/thoughts? >> >> Thanks, >> > > -- karl _/ _/ _/ _/_/_/ ____________ __o _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ ____________ _-\<._ _/_/ _/ _/_/_/ (_)/ (_) _/ _/ _/ _/ ...................... _/ _/ arl _/_/_/ _/ earson KarlP@ourldsfamily.com --- Senior Consulting Sys/DB Analyst http://consulting.ourldsfamily.com --- My Thoughts on Terrorism In America right after 9/11/2001: http://www.ourldsfamily.com/wtc.shtml --- The world is a dangerous place to live... not because of the people who are evil, but because of the people who don't do anything about it. - Albert Einstein --- From majordomo-users-owner@greatcircle.com Sat Oct 14 07:39:12 2006 X-Original-To: majordomo-users@greatcircle.com Received: from alnrmhc11.comcast.net (alnrmhc11.comcast.net [204.127.225.91]) by mycroft.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0C4762902CF for ; Sat, 14 Oct 2006 07:39:10 -0700 (PDT) Received: from m1 (c-71-200-131-191.hsd1.de.comcast.net[71.200.131.191]) by comcast.net (alnrmhc11) with SMTP id <20061014143909b11008an90e>; Sat, 14 Oct 2006 14:39:09 +0000 From: "Michael Fenimore" To: Subject: Set up on RH Linux ES4 Date: Sat, 14 Oct 2006 10:39:27 -0400 Message-ID: <004a01c6ef9e$90792ed0$020aa8c0@COMCAST.NET> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_004B_01C6EF7D.09678ED0" X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.2616 Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2962 X-Archive-Number: 200610/10 X-Sequence-Number: 5538 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_004B_01C6EF7D.09678ED0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I am trying to set up MD on a RedHat Linux, ES 4 server. I have root/admin privileges as I am root. Trying to set up MD normally, I have many errors referring to "Cannot open /usr/lib/majordomo/lists/test: World writable directory" I have tried different permissions, different users all to no avail. Sendmail is running as user mail and group wheel (8.10) I have had MD running on other systems with no problems in the past. But with ES4 I'm having major issues. Hope someone can help with this. TIA Michael Fenimore SysAdmin/WebMaster Griefnet.org ------=_NextPart_000_004B_01C6EF7D.09678ED0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

I am trying to set up MD on a RedHat Linux, ES 4 = server. I have root/admin privileges as I am root.

Trying to set up MD normally, I have many errors = referring to “Cannot open = /usr/lib/majordomo/lists/test: World writable directory”

I have tried different permissions, different = users all to no avail.

 

Sendmail is running as user mail and group = wheel (8.10)

I have had MD running on other systems with = no problems in the past. But with ES4 I’m having major = issues.

Hope someone can help with = this.

TIA

Michael Fenimore

SysAdmin/WebMaster

Griefnet.org

 

------=_NextPart_000_004B_01C6EF7D.09678ED0-- From majordomo-users-owner@greatcircle.com Mon Oct 16 11:16:29 2006 X-Original-To: majordomo-users@greatcircle.com Received: from mail.sonny.com (mail.sonny.com [70.58.223.141]) by mycroft.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 510DD29038B for ; Mon, 16 Oct 2006 11:16:23 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [127.0.0.1] (yterra.sonny.com [192.168.1.12]) by magnia.sonny.com (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 Patch 1 (built Aug 19 2002)) with ESMTP id <0J7800A15QNGHM@magnia.sonny.com> for majordomo-users@greatcircle.com; Mon, 16 Oct 2006 13:14:06 -0500 (CDT) Date: Mon, 16 Oct 2006 13:16:18 -0500 From: Daniel Liston Subject: Re: Set up on RH Linux ES4 In-reply-to: <004a01c6ef9e$90792ed0$020aa8c0@COMCAST.NET> To: Michael Fenimore , majordomo-users@greatcircle.com Message-id: <4533CC72.90309@sonny.org> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 8BIT User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.7 (Windows/20060909) References: <004a01c6ef9e$90792ed0$020aa8c0@COMCAST.NET> X-Archive-Number: 200610/11 X-Sequence-Number: 5539 It is sendmail, not majordomo that is issuing the warning message. Add the majordomo user to your sendmail TrustedUsers file, and the sendmail user to your majordomo group. Then adjust your directory permissions to 751 and the files inside it to 640. If RHEL 4 uses smrsh as the delivery agent, you will also need a link to the MD wrapper in /etc/smrsh. Dan Liston Michael Fenimore wrote: > I am trying to set up MD on a RedHat Linux, ES 4 server. I have > root/admin privileges as I am root. > > Trying to set up MD normally, I have many errors referring to “Cannot > open /usr/lib/majordomo/lists/test: World writable directory” > > I have tried different permissions, different users all to no avail. > > > > Sendmail is running as user mail and group wheel (8.10) > > I have had MD running on other systems with no problems in the past. But > with ES4 I’m having major issues. > > Hope someone can help with this. > > TIA > > Michael Fenimore > > SysAdmin/WebMaster > > Griefnet.org > > > From majordomo-users-owner@greatcircle.com Thu Oct 19 12:57:43 2006 X-Original-To: majordomo-users@greatcircle.com Received: from mail3.gmhwh.org (mail3.gmhwh.org [216.49.176.52]) by mycroft.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id CD5AC290288 for ; Thu, 19 Oct 2006 12:57:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: from inet-wh2.gmhwh.org (chqpvun1111.wh.ldsglobal.net [10.97.38.49]) by mail3.gmhwh.org (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id k9JJvWQA019365 for ; Thu, 19 Oct 2006 13:57:32 -0600 Received: from WH-SMTP2-MTA by inet-wh2.gmhwh.org with Novell_GroupWise; Thu, 19 Oct 2006 13:57:32 -0600 Message-Id: <453784430200009D00036BCB@inet-wh2.gmhwh.org> X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise Internet Agent 7.0.1 Date: Thu, 19 Oct 2006 13:57:23 -0600 From: "Charlie Smith" To: Cc: "Steve Brey" Subject: Recommedation for creating asian characters in email References: <004a01c6ef9e$90792ed0$020aa8c0@COMCAST.NET> <4533CC72.90309@sonny.org> In-Reply-To: <4533CC72.90309@sonny.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline X-Disclaimer: True X-Proofpoint-Virus-Version: vendor=fsecure engine=4.65.5446:2.3.11,1.2.37,4.0.164 definitions=2006-10-19_07:2006-10-19,2006-10-19,2006-10-19 signatures=0 X-Archive-Number: 200610/12 X-Sequence-Number: 5540 What would you recommend as far as how to create email on client with Asian characters. We're having problems getting email created/formatted properly. Charlie ---------------------------------------------------------------------- NOTICE: This email message is for the sole use of the intended recipient(s) and may contain confidential and privileged information. Any unauthorized review, use, disclosure or distribution is prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender by reply email and destroy all copies of the original message. From majordomo-users-owner@greatcircle.com Fri Oct 27 02:23:33 2006 X-Original-To: Majordomo-Users@GreatCircle.COM X-Greylist: delayed 1202 seconds by postgrey-1.24 at mycroft; Fri, 27 Oct 2006 02:23:32 PDT Received: from thoth.sbs.de (thoth.sbs.de [192.35.17.2]) by mycroft.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 449A221BD6D for ; Fri, 27 Oct 2006 02:23:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail3.siemens.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by thoth.sbs.de (8.12.6/8.12.6) with ESMTP id k9R93R7A003982 for ; Fri, 27 Oct 2006 11:03:27 +0200 Received: from mchp7wta.ww002.siemens.net (mchp7wta.ww002.siemens.net [139.25.131.193]) by mail3.siemens.de (8.12.6/8.12.6) with ESMTP id k9R93O8h026663 for ; Fri, 27 Oct 2006 11:03:26 +0200 Received: from MCHP7RDA.ww002.siemens.net ([139.25.131.171]) by mchp7wta.ww002.siemens.net with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.1830); Fri, 27 Oct 2006 11:03:24 +0200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5 Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----_=_NextPart_001_01C6F9A7.71CFD19C" Subject: Hack to restrict domain in restrict_post Date: Fri, 27 Oct 2006 11:08:19 +0200 Message-ID: <38070E142B6C484D9B684D2C83E2B325BBE579@MCHP7RDA.ww002.siemens.net> X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: Hack to restrict domain in restrict_post Thread-Index: Acb5psGcWlEMUeQMSLSNlAlheDiipQ== From: "Mattis, Oliver" To: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 27 Oct 2006 09:03:24.0128 (UTC) FILETIME=[C1FF9E00:01C6F9A6] X-Archive-Number: 200610/13 X-Sequence-Number: 5541 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------_=_NextPart_001_01C6F9A7.71CFD19C Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Dear Guys, =20 have anybody a idea how can i restric a list to a whole domain ? like = @foo.bar If i set this in the config. Majodomo required a file named as @foo.bar=20 =20 EUCS should have a solution for this problem but i couldn=B4t found it = in the web. Mit freundlichen Gr=FC=DFen / Kind Regards Oliver Mattis Siemens Business Services GmbH & Co. oHG=20 SBS GI GIO DS G W4 "Linux is like a Wigwam.. No Windows, no Gates, and Apache inside." =20 ------_=_NextPart_001_01C6F9A7.71CFD19C Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Dear=20 Guys,
 
have anybody a=20 idea how can i restric a list to a whole domain ? like=20 @foo.bar
If i = set this in the=20 config. Majodomo required a file named as = @foo.bar 
  
EUCS = should have a=20 solution for this problem but i couldn=B4t found it in the=20 web.

Mit=20 freundlichen Gr=FC=DFen / Kind Regards
Oliver=20 Mattis

Siemens=20 Business Services GmbH & Co. oHG 
SBS GI=20 GIO DS G W4

"Linux is like a Wigwam..  No = Windows, no=20 Gates, and Apache inside."

 
------_=_NextPart_001_01C6F9A7.71CFD19C-- From majordomo-users-owner@greatcircle.com Fri Oct 27 09:19:03 2006 X-Original-To: Majordomo-Users@greatcircle.com X-Greylist: delayed 145 seconds by postgrey-1.24 at mycroft; Fri, 27 Oct 2006 09:19:02 PDT Received: from cloud.ccsf.cc.ca.us (cloud.ccsf.cc.ca.us [147.144.1.212]) by mycroft.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 818CC21BD79 for ; Fri, 27 Oct 2006 09:19:02 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (jjah@localhost) by cloud.ccsf.cc.ca.us (8.11.6/8.11.2) with ESMTP id k9RGFnW21400; Fri, 27 Oct 2006 09:15:50 -0700 (PDT) Date: Fri, 27 Oct 2006 09:15:49 -0700 (PDT) From: "Joe R. Jah" To: "Mattis, Oliver" Cc: Majordomo-Users@greatcircle.com Subject: Re: Hack to restrict domain in restrict_post In-Reply-To: <38070E142B6C484D9B684D2C83E2B325BBE579@MCHP7RDA.ww002.siemens.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=X-UNKNOWN Content-Transfer-Encoding: QUOTED-PRINTABLE X-Archive-Number: 200610/14 X-Sequence-Number: 5542 On Fri, 27 Oct 2006, Mattis, Oliver wrote: > Date: Fri, 27 Oct 2006 11:08:19 +0200 > From: "Mattis, Oliver" > To: Majordomo-Users@greatcircle.com > Subject: Hack to restrict domain in restrict_post >=20 > Dear Guys, > =20 > have anybody a idea how can i restric a list to a whole domain ? like @fo= o.bar > If i set this in the config. Majodomo required a file named as @foo.bar= =20 If you run version 1.94.5 see: ftp://ftp.ccsf.org/majordomo-patches/1.94.5/restrict2domain.1 Or ftp://ftp.ccsf.org/majordomo-patches/1.94.5/restrict2domain-post.2 > EUCS should have a solution for this problem but i couldn=B4t found it in= the web. >=20 > Mit freundlichen Gr=FC=DFen / Kind Regards > Oliver Mattis >=20 > Siemens Business Services GmbH & Co. oHG=20 > SBS GI GIO DS G W4 >=20 >=20 > "Linux is like a Wigwam.. No Windows, no Gates, and Apache inside." 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You can be amazed. http://www.mails.joy.frih.net/ Best regards From majordomo-users-owner@greatcircle.com Mon Oct 30 23:38:40 2006 X-Original-To: majordomo-users@greatcircle.com X-Greylist: delayed 255 seconds by postgrey-1.24 at mycroft; Mon, 30 Oct 2006 23:38:38 PST Received: from mail.scasey.com (206-169-90-115.static.twtelecom.net [206.169.90.115]) by mycroft.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with SMTP id 510E419C254 for ; Mon, 30 Oct 2006 23:38:38 -0800 (PST) Received: (qmail 20282 invoked from network); 31 Oct 2006 07:34:22 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO DBDMJ061) (70.171.220.23) by 0 with SMTP; 31 Oct 2006 07:34:22 -0000 From: "Sean Casey" To: Subject: HACK: displaying origin headers Date: Tue, 31 Oct 2006 00:33:54 -0700 Organization: Sean Casey & Associates, LLC Message-ID: <000801c6fcbe$eb2ae300$6401a8c0@DBDMJ061> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.6626 Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2962 X-Archive-Number: 200610/16 X-Sequence-Number: 5544 Thought this might be useful to some here. The problem: 1.Spammers send their junk to majordomo@ with a bogus From: address 2.Majordomo sends a "Majordomo results:" help message to the From: address 3.The domain bounces the mail 4.Majordomo delivers the bounce to majordomo-Owner Since the default message contains no information about the original sender (the spammer), there's little or nothing to be done to correct/complain/block the sender. We get about 10 of these per day. Would probably get more, but we do some VERY aggressive blocking of spamming servers. The hack: Modified sub done {} in majordomo (see below) This prints the incoming mail headers at the bottom of any help message where "**** No valid commands found" If the From: is legitimate, having the headers at the bottom is probably OK...certainly doesn't detract from the message. If not, majordomo-Owner now has the full headers of the spammer's message, and can act accordingly. Note that this won't happen for a 'help' request, only when the message contains NO valid commands. Thoughts? Comments? Sean Here is the entire subroutine, with the added code marked: # We are done processing the request; append help if needed, send the reply # to the requestor, clean up, and exit sub done { # append help, if needed. if ($count == 0) { print REPLY "**** No valid commands found.\n"; print REPLY "**** Commands must be in message BODY, not in HEADER.\n\n"; } if ($needs_help || ($count == 0)) { print REPLY "**** Help for $whoami:\n\n"; &do_help(); } ###### begin added code ##### ### added to print the incoming mail message headers...scc if ($count == 0) { print REPLY "\n\n**** Incoming Mail Headers\n"; foreach $header (@hdrs) { print REPLY "$header\n"; } } ##### end added code ##### # close (and thereby send) the reply close(REPLY); # good bye! exit(0); }