From majordomo-users-owner@greatcircle.com Fri Nov 3 06:01:11 2006 X-Original-To: majordomo-users@greatcircle.com Received: from outmx019.isp.belgacom.be (outmx019.isp.belgacom.be [195.238.4.200]) by mycroft.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id DD5BD290095 for ; Fri, 3 Nov 2006 06:01:09 -0800 (PST) Received: from outmx019.isp.belgacom.be (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by outmx019.isp.belgacom.be (8.12.11.20060308/8.12.11/Skynet-OUT-2.22) with ESMTP id kA3E0w3P006793 for ; Fri, 3 Nov 2006 15:00:58 +0100 (envelope-from ) Received: from traficon.com (144.255-136-217.adsl-static.isp.belgacom.be [217.136.255.144]) by outmx019.isp.belgacom.be (8.12.11.20060308/8.12.11/Skynet-OUT-2.22) with ESMTP id kA3E0XUD006445 for ; Fri, 3 Nov 2006 15:00:56 +0100 (envelope-from ) Subject: problem MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----_=_NextPart_001_01C6FF4E.A97E8B54" Date: Fri, 3 Nov 2006 14:47:53 +0100 Message-ID: From: "Michael Deruytter" To: X-Archive-Number: 200611/1 X-Sequence-Number: 5545 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------_=_NextPart_001_01C6FF4E.A97E8B54 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Dear all, =20 I've been having a problem and I don't know in any way how to solve it. =20 I have tested my mailinglist with 7 e-mail addresses in the list. I send an e-mail to the list and everything works.=20 Now I've added 200 people to the list and I try to send the same e-mail to my list and it doesn't work. I haven't changed any of the configurations.=20 =20 What am I overseeing? Can anyone help me? I've been testing for months to figure it out but I just can't get it right. =20 Michael ------_=_NextPart_001_01C6FF4E.A97E8B54 Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Dear all,

 

I’ve been having a problem and I don’t = know in any way how to solve it.

 

I have tested my mailinglist with 7 e-mail addresses = in the list. I send an e-mail to the list and everything works. =

Now I’ve added 200 people to the list and I try = to send the same e-mail to my list and it doesn’t work. I = haven’t changed any of the configurations.

 

What am I overseeing? Can anyone help me? I’ve = been testing for months to figure it out but I just can’t get it = right.

 

Michael

------_=_NextPart_001_01C6FF4E.A97E8B54-- From majordomo-users-owner@greatcircle.com Fri Nov 3 06:49:48 2006 X-Original-To: majordomo-users@greatcircle.com Received: from mail.sonny.com (mail.sonny.com [70.58.223.141]) by mycroft.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3727429009F for ; Fri, 3 Nov 2006 06:49:43 -0800 (PST) Received: from [127.0.0.1] (father.sonny.com [192.168.1.78]) by magnia.sonny.com (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 Patch 1 (built Aug 19 2002)) with ESMTP id <0J8500B1AT7H19@magnia.sonny.com> for majordomo-users@greatcircle.com; Fri, 03 Nov 2006 08:50:10 -0600 (CST) Date: Fri, 03 Nov 2006 08:48:59 -0600 From: Daniel Liston Subject: Re: problem In-reply-to: To: Michael Deruytter Cc: majordomo-users@greatcircle.com Message-id: <454B56DB.6090607@sonny.org> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Content-transfer-encoding: 8BIT X-Accept-Language: en-us, en User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.2) Gecko/20040804 Netscape/7.2 (ax) References: X-Archive-Number: 200611/2 X-Sequence-Number: 5546 Please provide more details into what you have done so far. What version of majordomo are you running (trying to run)? What is the mailer (MTA) program in front of majordomo? What Operating System are you on, with what version of perl? You probably created 5-8 aliases for your test mailing list, please share them there. You did create aliases for majordomo itself too right? When you went from 7 to 200 addresses, did the file ownership, permissions, or name change? Do you have any missing quotes? Did you strip comments or leave them in? Did you edit the file directly, or did you use commands in email to majordomo to add the addresses? Lastly, why did you have to add the addresses vs. letting users opt-in/sign-up for the list themselves? Dan Liston Michael Deruytter wrote: > I’ve been having a problem and I don’t know in any way how to solve it. > > I have tested my mailinglist with 7 e-mail addresses in the list. I send > an e-mail to the list and everything works. > > Now I’ve added 200 people to the list and I try to send the same e-mail > to my list and it doesn’t work. I haven’t changed any of the > configurations. > > > > What am I overseeing? Can anyone help me? I’ve been testing for months > to figure it out but I just can’t get it right. > > > > Michael > From majordomo-users-owner@greatcircle.com Fri Nov 3 07:11:36 2006 X-Original-To: majordomo-users@greatcircle.com Received: from outmx027.isp.belgacom.be (outmx027.isp.belgacom.be [195.238.4.208]) by mycroft.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2D07E19C6ED for ; Fri, 3 Nov 2006 07:11:34 -0800 (PST) Received: from outmx027.isp.belgacom.be (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by outmx027.isp.belgacom.be (8.12.11.20060308/8.12.11/Skynet-OUT-2.22) with ESMTP id kA3FBVwa016567 for ; Fri, 3 Nov 2006 16:11:32 +0100 (envelope-from ) Received: from traficon.com (144.255-136-217.adsl-static.isp.belgacom.be [217.136.255.144]) by outmx027.isp.belgacom.be (8.12.11.20060308/8.12.11/Skynet-OUT-2.22) with ESMTP id kA3FBOYC016495; Fri, 3 Nov 2006 16:11:24 +0100 (envelope-from ) Subject: Re: problem MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Date: Fri, 3 Nov 2006 16:12:20 +0100 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <454B56DB.6090607@sonny.org> From: "Michael Deruytter" To: "Daniel Liston" Cc: X-Archive-Number: 200611/3 X-Sequence-Number: 5547 Thx for the swift response, Here some details, - The server is running version 1.94.5 of Majordomo. That is all I can retrieve from it. It is not my server, it's from a small service company. - I only have 1 mailinglist=20 - I did not create any aliases, what is meant by this? - When I went from 7 to 200 addresses, I used the majordomo commands (so for every address I've sent an e-mail to majordomo with the correct subscribe command). The addresses come from my personal address book.=20 - when I was testing, everything worked just fine. I haven't changed any configurations, I added the addresses and I've tried to send only 1 line of text, and it doesn't get through. I don't get any error messages in my mailbox. (when I was testing with 7 addresses, it all worked fine, even if a false address like kdsdg@kfjsdf.sdf is in the list, I get a failed-to-deliver message). -----Original Message----- From: Daniel Liston [mailto:dliston@sonny.org]=20 Sent: vrijdag 3 november 2006 15:49 To: Michael Deruytter Cc: majordomo-users@greatcircle.com Subject: Re: problem Please provide more details into what you have done so far. What version of majordomo are you running (trying to run)? What is the mailer (MTA) program in front of majordomo? What Operating System are you on, with what version of perl? You probably created 5-8 aliases for your test mailing list, please share them there. You did create aliases for majordomo itself too right? When you went from 7 to 200 addresses, did the file ownership, permissions, or name change? Do you have any missing quotes? Did you strip comments or leave them in? Did you edit the file directly, or did you use commands in email to majordomo to add the addresses? Lastly, why did you have to add the addresses vs. letting=20 users opt-in/sign-up for the list themselves? Dan Liston Michael Deruytter wrote: > I've been having a problem and I don't know in any way how to solve it. >=20 > I have tested my mailinglist with 7 e-mail addresses in the list. I send > an e-mail to the list and everything works. >=20 > Now I've added 200 people to the list and I try to send the same e-mail > to my list and it doesn't work. I haven't changed any of the > configurations. >=20 > =20 >=20 > What am I overseeing? Can anyone help me? I've been testing for months > to figure it out but I just can't get it right. >=20 > =20 >=20 > Michael >=20 From majordomo-users-owner@greatcircle.com Fri Nov 3 07:19:06 2006 X-Original-To: majordomo-users@greatcircle.com Received: from sccrmhc11.comcast.net (sccrmhc11.comcast.net [63.240.77.81]) by mycroft.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 977B421BD96 for ; Fri, 3 Nov 2006 07:19:05 -0800 (PST) Received: from [192.168.1.100] (c-24-91-5-158.hsd1.ma.comcast.net[24.91.5.158]) by comcast.net (sccrmhc11) with SMTP id <2006110315153901100cjnpge>; Fri, 3 Nov 2006 15:15:39 +0000 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v752.2) In-Reply-To: References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: <7D3A44CA-55F7-46A5-BA39-267E4949A9A9@bpecreative.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Bob Cohen Subject: Completely Remove MajorDomo Date: Fri, 3 Nov 2006 10:11:46 -0500 To: majordomo-users@greatcircle.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.752.2) X-Archive-Number: 200611/4 X-Sequence-Number: 5548 I need to remove MojoDomo from one of my servers. Is there a primer somewhere that covers this? From majordomo-users-owner@greatcircle.com Fri Nov 3 07:26:45 2006 X-Original-To: majordomo-users@greatcircle.com X-Greylist: delayed 263 seconds by postgrey-1.24 at mycroft; Fri, 03 Nov 2006 07:26:44 PST Received: from relay2.tee.gr (relay2.tee.gr [212.70.194.241]) by mycroft.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id AACFC29009F for ; Fri, 3 Nov 2006 07:26:44 -0800 (PST) Received: from imrryr.tee.gr (imrryr.tee.gr [212.70.193.46]) by relay2.tee.gr (8.13.8/8.13.8/Debian-2) with ESMTP id kA3FLgSO002541; Fri, 3 Nov 2006 17:21:42 +0200 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by imrryr.tee.gr (8.13.8/8.13.8/Debian-2) with ESMTP id kA3FM4Lp015507; Fri, 3 Nov 2006 17:22:04 +0200 Message-ID: <454B5E9B.1040006@central.tee.gr> Date: Fri, 03 Nov 2006 17:22:03 +0200 From: Yiorgos Adamopoulos Reply-To: adamo@central.tee.gr User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.7 (X11/20060918) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Bob Cohen Cc: majordomo-users@greatcircle.com Subject: Re: Completely Remove MajorDomo References: <7D3A44CA-55F7-46A5-BA39-267E4949A9A9@bpecreative.com> In-Reply-To: <7D3A44CA-55F7-46A5-BA39-267E4949A9A9@bpecreative.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.57 on 212.70.194.241 X-Archive-Number: 200611/5 X-Sequence-Number: 5549 Bob Cohen wrote: > I need to remove MojoDomo from one of my servers. Is there a primer > somewhere that covers this? # cd ~majordomo/.. # rm -rf majordomo # vi /etc/aliases [and delete entries related to Majordomo] # newaliases :) -Yiorgos- From majordomo-users-owner@greatcircle.com Fri Nov 3 07:27:20 2006 X-Original-To: majordomo-users@greatcircle.com Received: from mail.sonny.com (mail.sonny.com [70.58.223.141]) by mycroft.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 74DB729009F for ; Fri, 3 Nov 2006 07:27:19 -0800 (PST) Received: from [127.0.0.1] (father.sonny.com [192.168.1.78]) by magnia.sonny.com (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 Patch 1 (built Aug 19 2002)) with ESMTP id <0J8500B0BUY751@magnia.sonny.com> for majordomo-users@greatcircle.com; Fri, 03 Nov 2006 09:27:46 -0600 (CST) Date: Fri, 03 Nov 2006 09:26:40 -0600 From: Daniel Liston Subject: Re: Completely Remove MajorDomo In-reply-to: <7D3A44CA-55F7-46A5-BA39-267E4949A9A9@bpecreative.com> To: Bob Cohen Cc: majordomo-users@greatcircle.com Message-id: <454B5FB0.6030601@sonny.org> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-Accept-Language: en-us, en User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.2) Gecko/20040804 Netscape/7.2 (ax) References: <7D3A44CA-55F7-46A5-BA39-267E4949A9A9@bpecreative.com> X-Archive-Number: 200611/6 X-Sequence-Number: 5550 Removal of majordomo is really nothing more than removing mailing list aliases with pipes or includes containing majordomo scripts or directories. For due diligence, you can also remove majordomo from sendmail trust files, general or virtual user files, and sendmail.cf. You might prefer to archive this data to a separate machine, rather than simply deleting it too. Dan Liston Bob Cohen wrote: > I need to remove MojoDomo from one of my servers. Is there a primer > somewhere that covers this? From majordomo-users-owner@greatcircle.com Fri Nov 3 07:36:38 2006 X-Original-To: majordomo-users@greatcircle.com X-Greylist: delayed 301 seconds by postgrey-1.24 at mycroft; Fri, 03 Nov 2006 07:36:37 PST Received: from sccrmhc13.comcast.net (sccrmhc13.comcast.net [63.240.77.83]) by mycroft.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A510621BD96 for ; Fri, 3 Nov 2006 07:36:37 -0800 (PST) Received: from [192.168.1.100] (c-24-91-5-158.hsd1.ma.comcast.net[24.91.5.158]) by comcast.net (sccrmhc13) with SMTP id <20061103153134013008uf3me>; Fri, 3 Nov 2006 15:31:34 +0000 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v752.2) In-Reply-To: <454B5E9B.1040006@central.tee.gr> References: <7D3A44CA-55F7-46A5-BA39-267E4949A9A9@bpecreative.com> <454B5E9B.1040006@central.tee.gr> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Message-Id: Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Bob Cohen Subject: Re: Completely Remove MajorDomo Date: Fri, 3 Nov 2006 10:27:42 -0500 To: majordomo-users@greatcircle.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.752.2) X-Archive-Number: 200611/7 X-Sequence-Number: 5551 Thank you Yiorgos and Dan. :-) Bob Cohen Principal, MojoTools Web Design Blues Harmonica Lessons Web : www.mojotools.com From majordomo-users-owner@greatcircle.com Fri Nov 3 07:57:44 2006 X-Original-To: majordomo-users@greatcircle.com Received: from mail.sonny.com (mail.sonny.com [70.58.223.141]) by mycroft.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 03FC029009F for ; Fri, 3 Nov 2006 07:57:39 -0800 (PST) Received: from [127.0.0.1] (father.sonny.com [192.168.1.78]) by magnia.sonny.com (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 Patch 1 (built Aug 19 2002)) with ESMTP id <0J8500B0MWCR6E@magnia.sonny.com> for majordomo-users@greatcircle.com; Fri, 03 Nov 2006 09:58:04 -0600 (CST) Date: Fri, 03 Nov 2006 09:57:00 -0600 From: Daniel Liston Subject: Re: problem In-reply-to: To: Michael Deruytter Cc: majordomo-users@greatcircle.com Message-id: <454B66CC.5010600@sonny.org> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-Accept-Language: en-us, en User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.2) Gecko/20040804 Netscape/7.2 (ax) References: X-Archive-Number: 200611/8 X-Sequence-Number: 5552 I am sorry to hear you sent a command per address to add to your list when there was definitely an easier way. Regardless, that is water under the bridge at this point. I think you need to talk to your service provider and ask them if there are any mail restrictions which might be affecting your majordomo list. Some providers have limits of 10, 20, or 50 maximum recipients per outgoing message. Maybe your 200 addresses is exceeding one of these quotas. While you have their attention, you could ask for a copy of the aliases associated with your list too. Dan Liston Michael Deruytter wrote: > Thx for the swift response, > > Here some details, > > - The server is running version 1.94.5 of Majordomo. That is all I can > retrieve from it. It is not my server, it's from a small service > company. > - I only have 1 mailinglist > - I did not create any aliases, what is meant by this? > - When I went from 7 to 200 addresses, I used the majordomo commands (so > for every address I've sent an e-mail to majordomo with the correct > subscribe command). The addresses come from my personal address book. > - when I was testing, everything worked just fine. I haven't changed any > configurations, I added the addresses and I've tried to send only 1 line > of text, and it doesn't get through. I don't get any error messages in > my mailbox. (when I was testing with 7 addresses, it all worked fine, > even if a false address like kdsdg@kfjsdf.sdf is in the list, I get a > failed-to-deliver message). > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Daniel Liston [mailto:dliston@sonny.org] > Sent: vrijdag 3 november 2006 15:49 > To: Michael Deruytter > Cc: majordomo-users@greatcircle.com > Subject: Re: problem > > Please provide more details into what you have done so far. > > What version of majordomo are you running (trying to run)? > What is the mailer (MTA) program in front of majordomo? > What Operating System are you on, with what version of perl? > > You probably created 5-8 aliases for your test mailing list, > please share them there. > > You did create aliases for majordomo itself too right? > > When you went from 7 to 200 addresses, did the file ownership, > permissions, or name change? Do you have any missing quotes? > Did you strip comments or leave them in? Did you edit the > file directly, or did you use commands in email to majordomo > to add the addresses? > > Lastly, why did you have to add the addresses vs. letting > users opt-in/sign-up for the list themselves? > > Dan Liston > > Michael Deruytter wrote: > > >>I've been having a problem and I don't know in any way how to solve > > it. > >>I have tested my mailinglist with 7 e-mail addresses in the list. I > > send > >>an e-mail to the list and everything works. >> >>Now I've added 200 people to the list and I try to send the same > > e-mail > >>to my list and it doesn't work. I haven't changed any of the >>configurations. >> >> >> >>What am I overseeing? Can anyone help me? I've been testing for months >>to figure it out but I just can't get it right. >> >> >> >>Michael >> > > From majordomo-users-owner@greatcircle.com Fri Nov 3 12:00:41 2006 X-Original-To: majordomo-users@greatcircle.com Received: from outmx025.isp.belgacom.be (outmx025.isp.belgacom.be [195.238.4.49]) by mycroft.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4D3602900C0 for ; Fri, 3 Nov 2006 12:00:39 -0800 (PST) Received: from outmx025.isp.belgacom.be (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by outmx025.isp.belgacom.be (8.12.11.20060308/8.12.11/Skynet-OUT-2.22) with ESMTP id kA3K0RpX018174 for ; Fri, 3 Nov 2006 21:00:27 +0100 (envelope-from ) Received: from traficon.com (144.255-136-217.adsl-static.isp.belgacom.be [217.136.255.144]) by outmx025.isp.belgacom.be (8.12.11.20060308/8.12.11/Skynet-OUT-2.22) with ESMTP id kA3K0MWP018002; Fri, 3 Nov 2006 21:00:22 +0100 (envelope-from ) Subject: Re: problem MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----_=_NextPart_001_01C6FF80.971D4554" Date: Fri, 3 Nov 2006 20:45:18 +0100 Message-ID: References: <454B66CC.5010600@sonny.org> From: "Michael Deruytter" To: "Daniel Liston" Cc: X-Archive-Number: 200611/9 X-Sequence-Number: 5553 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------_=_NextPart_001_01C6FF80.971D4554 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I have contacted my provider. He checked the loggings on his server. = There was 1 e-mail address with userx@bmw_net. by changing this to = userx@bmw.net (underscore to dot) the problem was fixed. It's strange = the system isn't able to recover from such an error and it isn't able to = ignore the false e-mail address. I haven't got any alert messages either = that there was an invalid e-mail address. =20 anyway, =20 many thanks to dan =20 Michael ________________________________ Van: Daniel Liston [mailto:dliston@sonny.org] Verzonden: vr 3/11/2006 16:57 Aan: Michael Deruytter CC: majordomo-users@greatcircle.com Onderwerp: Re: problem I am sorry to hear you sent a command per address to add to your list when there was definitely an easier way. Regardless, that is water under the bridge at this point. I think you need to talk to your service provider and ask them if there are any mail restrictions which might be affecting your majordomo list. Some providers have limits of 10, 20, or 50 maximum recipients per outgoing message. Maybe your 200 addresses is exceeding one of these quotas. While you have their attention, you could ask for a copy of the aliases associated with your list too. Dan Liston Michael Deruytter wrote: > Thx for the swift response, > > Here some details, > > - The server is running version 1.94.5 of Majordomo. That is all I can > retrieve from it. It is not my server, it's from a small service > company. > - I only have 1 mailinglist > - I did not create any aliases, what is meant by this? > - When I went from 7 to 200 addresses, I used the majordomo commands = (so > for every address I've sent an e-mail to majordomo with the correct > subscribe command). The addresses come from my personal address book. > - when I was testing, everything worked just fine. I haven't changed = any > configurations, I added the addresses and I've tried to send only 1 = line > of text, and it doesn't get through. I don't get any error messages in > my mailbox. (when I was testing with 7 addresses, it all worked fine, > even if a false address like kdsdg@kfjsdf.sdf is in the list, I get a > failed-to-deliver message). > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Daniel Liston [mailto:dliston@sonny.org] > Sent: vrijdag 3 november 2006 15:49 > To: Michael Deruytter > Cc: majordomo-users@greatcircle.com > Subject: Re: problem > > Please provide more details into what you have done so far. > > What version of majordomo are you running (trying to run)? > What is the mailer (MTA) program in front of majordomo? > What Operating System are you on, with what version of perl? > > You probably created 5-8 aliases for your test mailing list, > please share them there. > > You did create aliases for majordomo itself too right? > > When you went from 7 to 200 addresses, did the file ownership, > permissions, or name change? Do you have any missing quotes? > Did you strip comments or leave them in? Did you edit the > file directly, or did you use commands in email to majordomo > to add the addresses? > > Lastly, why did you have to add the addresses vs. letting > users opt-in/sign-up for the list themselves? > > Dan Liston > > Michael Deruytter wrote: > > >>I've been having a problem and I don't know in any way how to solve > > it. > >>I have tested my mailinglist with 7 e-mail addresses in the list. I > > send > >>an e-mail to the list and everything works. >> >>Now I've added 200 people to the list and I try to send the same > > e-mail > >>to my list and it doesn't work. I haven't changed any of the >>configurations. >> >> >> >>What am I overseeing? Can anyone help me? I've been testing for months >>to figure it out but I just can't get it right. >> >> >> >>Michael >> > > ------_=_NextPart_001_01C6FF80.971D4554 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Re: problem=0A= =0A= =0A= =0A=
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I have = contacted my provider. He checked the loggings on his server. There was = 1 e-mail address with userx@bmw_net. by changing this to userx@bmw.net (underscore to dot) the = problem was fixed. It's strange the system isn't able to recover from = such an error and it isn't able to ignore the false e-mail address. I = haven't got any alert messages either that there was an invalid e-mail = address.
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Onderwerp: Re: = problem

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I am sorry to hear you sent a command per address to = add to your list
when there was definitely an easier way.  = Regardless, that is water
under the bridge at this point.  I = think you need to talk to your
service provider and ask them if there = are any mail restrictions which
might be affecting your majordomo = list.  Some providers have limits of
10, 20, or 50 maximum = recipients per outgoing message.  Maybe your 200
addresses is = exceeding one of these quotas.  While you have their
attention, = you could ask for a copy of the aliases associated with
your list = too.

Dan Liston

Michael Deruytter wrote:

> Thx = for the swift response,
>
> Here some = details,
>
> - The server is running version 1.94.5 of = Majordomo. That is all I can
> retrieve from it. It is not my = server, it's from a small service
> company.
> - I only have = 1 mailinglist
> - I did not create any aliases, what is meant by = this?
> - When I went from 7 to 200 addresses, I used the = majordomo commands (so
> for every address I've sent an e-mail to = majordomo with the correct
> subscribe command). The addresses = come from my personal address book.
> - when I was testing, = everything worked just fine. I haven't changed any
> = configurations, I added the addresses and I've tried to send only 1 = line
> of text, and it doesn't get through. I don't get any error = messages in
> my mailbox. (when I was testing with 7 addresses, it = all worked fine,
> even if a false address like kdsdg@kfjsdf.sdf = is in the list, I get a
> failed-to-deliver = message).
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> = From: Daniel Liston [mailto:dliston@sonny.org]
> = Sent: vrijdag 3 november 2006 15:49
> To: Michael = Deruytter
> Cc: majordomo-users@greatcircle.com
> Subject: = Re: problem
>
> Please provide more details into what you = have done so far.
>
> What version of majordomo are you = running (trying to run)?
> What is the mailer (MTA) program in = front of majordomo?
> What Operating System are you on, with what = version of perl?
>
> You probably created 5-8 aliases for = your test mailing list,
> please share them there.
>
> = You did create aliases for majordomo itself too right?
>
> = When you went from 7 to 200 addresses, did the file ownership,
> = permissions, or name change?  Do you have any missing = quotes?
> Did you strip comments or leave them in?  Did you = edit the
> file directly, or did you use commands in email to = majordomo
> to add the addresses?
>
> Lastly, why did = you have to add the addresses vs. letting
> users opt-in/sign-up = for the list themselves?
>
> Dan Liston
>
> = Michael Deruytter wrote:
>
>
>>I've been having a = problem and I don't know in any way how to solve
>
> = it.
>
>>I have tested my mailinglist with 7 e-mail = addresses in the list. I
>
> send
>
>>an = e-mail to the list and everything works.
>>
>>Now I've = added 200 people to the list and I try to send the same
>
> = e-mail
>
>>to my list and it doesn't work. I haven't = changed any of = the
>>configurations.
>>
>>
>>
>= ;>What am I overseeing? Can anyone help me? I've been testing for = months
>>to figure it out but I just can't get it = right.
>>
>>
>>
>>Michael
>>=
>
>

------_=_NextPart_001_01C6FF80.971D4554-- From majordomo-users-owner@greatcircle.com Fri Nov 3 12:34:50 2006 X-Original-To: majordomo-users@greatcircle.com Received: from cloud.ccsf.cc.ca.us (cloud.ccsf.cc.ca.us [147.144.1.212]) by mycroft.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2AE6F2900C0 for ; Fri, 3 Nov 2006 12:34:48 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (jjah@localhost) by cloud.ccsf.cc.ca.us (8.11.6/8.11.2) with ESMTP id kA3KYjF01421; Fri, 3 Nov 2006 12:34:46 -0800 (PST) Date: Fri, 3 Nov 2006 12:34:45 -0800 (PST) From: "Joe R. Jah" To: Michael Deruytter Cc: Daniel Liston , majordomo-users@greatcircle.com Subject: Re: problem In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Archive-Number: 200611/10 X-Sequence-Number: 5554 On Fri, 3 Nov 2006, Michael Deruytter wrote: > Date: Fri, 3 Nov 2006 20:45:18 +0100 > From: Michael Deruytter > To: Daniel Liston > Cc: majordomo-users@greatcircle.com > Subject: Re: problem > > I have contacted my provider. He checked the loggings on his server. There was 1 e-mail address with userx@bmw_net. by changing this to userx@bmw.net (underscore to dot) the problem was fixed. It's strange the system isn't able to recover from such an error and it isn't able to ignore the false e-mail address. I haven't got any alert messages either that there was an invalid e-mail address. You may want to persuade your ISP to apply this simple patch: ftp://ftp.ccsf.org/majordomo-patches/1.94.5/validate_@._.1 Majordomo shouldn't permit you to subscribe invalid email addresses to the list. Regards, Joe -- _/ _/_/_/ _/ ____________ __o _/ _/ _/ _/ ______________ _-\<,_ _/ _/ _/_/_/ _/ _/ ......(_)/ (_) _/_/ oe _/ _/. _/_/ ah jjah@cloud.ccsf.cc.ca.us > > anyway, > > many thanks to dan > > Michael > > ________________________________ > > Van: Daniel Liston [mailto:dliston@sonny.org] > Verzonden: vr 3/11/2006 16:57 > Aan: Michael Deruytter > CC: majordomo-users@greatcircle.com > Onderwerp: Re: problem > > > > I am sorry to hear you sent a command per address to add to your list > when there was definitely an easier way. Regardless, that is water > under the bridge at this point. I think you need to talk to your > service provider and ask them if there are any mail restrictions which > might be affecting your majordomo list. Some providers have limits of > 10, 20, or 50 maximum recipients per outgoing message. Maybe your 200 > addresses is exceeding one of these quotas. While you have their > attention, you could ask for a copy of the aliases associated with > your list too. > > Dan Liston > > Michael Deruytter wrote: > > > Thx for the swift response, > > > > Here some details, > > > > - The server is running version 1.94.5 of Majordomo. That is all I can > > retrieve from it. It is not my server, it's from a small service > > company. > > - I only have 1 mailinglist > > - I did not create any aliases, what is meant by this? > > - When I went from 7 to 200 addresses, I used the majordomo commands (so > > for every address I've sent an e-mail to majordomo with the correct > > subscribe command). The addresses come from my personal address book. > > - when I was testing, everything worked just fine. I haven't changed any > > configurations, I added the addresses and I've tried to send only 1 line > > of text, and it doesn't get through. I don't get any error messages in > > my mailbox. (when I was testing with 7 addresses, it all worked fine, > > even if a false address like kdsdg@kfjsdf.sdf is in the list, I get a > > failed-to-deliver message). > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Daniel Liston [mailto:dliston@sonny.org] > > Sent: vrijdag 3 november 2006 15:49 > > To: Michael Deruytter > > Cc: majordomo-users@greatcircle.com > > Subject: Re: problem > > > > Please provide more details into what you have done so far. > > > > What version of majordomo are you running (trying to run)? > > What is the mailer (MTA) program in front of majordomo? > > What Operating System are you on, with what version of perl? > > > > You probably created 5-8 aliases for your test mailing list, > > please share them there. > > > > You did create aliases for majordomo itself too right? > > > > When you went from 7 to 200 addresses, did the file ownership, > > permissions, or name change? Do you have any missing quotes? > > Did you strip comments or leave them in? Did you edit the > > file directly, or did you use commands in email to majordomo > > to add the addresses? > > > > Lastly, why did you have to add the addresses vs. letting > > users opt-in/sign-up for the list themselves? > > > > Dan Liston > > > > Michael Deruytter wrote: > > > > > >>I've been having a problem and I don't know in any way how to solve > > > > it. > > > >>I have tested my mailinglist with 7 e-mail addresses in the list. I > > > > send > > > >>an e-mail to the list and everything works. > >> > >>Now I've added 200 people to the list and I try to send the same > > > > e-mail > > > >>to my list and it doesn't work. I haven't changed any of the > >>configurations. > >> > >> > >> > >>What am I overseeing? Can anyone help me? I've been testing for months > >>to figure it out but I just can't get it right. > >> > >> > >> > >>Michael From majordomo-users-owner@greatcircle.com Fri Nov 3 13:51:03 2006 X-Original-To: majordomo-users@greatcircle.com X-Greylist: delayed 3029 seconds by postgrey-1.24 at mycroft; Fri, 03 Nov 2006 13:51:03 PST Received: from all-in-general.com (all-in-general.com [206.216.152.160]) by mycroft.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 057882900C4 for ; Fri, 3 Nov 2006 13:51:02 -0800 (PST) Received: from lappy (d-72-9-10-199.metrocast.net [72.9.10.199]) by all-in-general.com (8.12.10/8.12.10) with SMTP id kA3L0K2X023955 for ; Fri, 3 Nov 2006 16:00:20 -0500 From: "Rick Sandlin" To: Subject: Config file not being read? Date: Fri, 3 Nov 2006 16:00:26 -0500 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0117_01C6FF61.2D926FC0" X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2869 X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-99.4 required=3.0 tests=HTML_40_50, HTML_FONTCOLOR_BLUE,HTML_MESSAGE,USER_IN_WHITELIST autolearn=no version=2.63 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on all-in-general.com X-Archive-Number: 200611/11 X-Sequence-Number: 5555 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0117_01C6FF61.2D926FC0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Re: problemGood day everyone. I am having problems getting the message_header and subject_prefix and other things to work on my list. Actually, nothing that I have in the listname.config file is being used. I have the $listdir variable set to point to the proper directory in my majordomo.cf file. The email addresses in the $listdir/listname file are being emailed when I send mail to the list. When I send the 'info listname' command, I get the correct information from the $listdir/listname.info file. I am able to subscribe and unsubscribe from the list. Yet, anything that I put in the config file - $listdir/listname.config - does not seem to be getting picked up. The majordomo user has ownership and read access to the config file. How can I go about debugging this issue? I have looked in maillog with no help and the debug log has no helpful information (even with $DEBUG=1; in my .cf file). Thank you for your time. Thanks, Rick ------=_NextPart_000_0117_01C6FF61.2D926FC0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Re: problem
Good=20 day everyone.
 
I am=20 having problems getting the message_header and subject_prefix and other = things=20 to work on my list.  Actually, nothing that I have in the = listname.config=20 file is being used.  I have the $listdir variable set to point to = the=20 proper directory in my majordomo.cf file.  The email addresses in = the=20 $listdir/listname file are being emailed when I send mail to the=20 list.
 
When I=20 send the 'info listname' command, I get the correct information = from=20 the $listdir/listname.info file.  I am able to subscribe and=20 unsubscribe from the list.  Yet, anything that I put in the config = file -=20 $listdir/listname.config - does not seem to be getting picked=20 up.
 
The=20 majordomo user has ownership and read access to the config file.  = How can I=20 go about debugging this issue?  I have looked in maillog with no = help and=20 the debug log has no helpful information (even with $DEBUG=3D1; in my = .cf=20 file). 
 
Thank = you for=20 your time.
 
Thanks,
Rick
------=_NextPart_000_0117_01C6FF61.2D926FC0-- From majordomo-users-owner@greatcircle.com Fri Nov 3 14:57:55 2006 X-Original-To: majordomo-users@greatcircle.com Received: from mail.sonny.com (mail.sonny.com [70.58.223.141]) by mycroft.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 686B52900C4 for ; Fri, 3 Nov 2006 14:57:52 -0800 (PST) Received: from [127.0.0.1] (father.sonny.com [192.168.1.78]) by magnia.sonny.com (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 Patch 1 (built Aug 19 2002)) with ESMTP id <0J8600C05FSU5R@magnia.sonny.com> for majordomo-users@greatcircle.com; Fri, 03 Nov 2006 16:58:13 -0600 (CST) Date: Fri, 03 Nov 2006 16:57:10 -0600 From: Daniel Liston Subject: Re: Config file not being read? In-reply-to: To: Rick Sandlin Cc: majordomo-users@greatcircle.com Message-id: <454BC946.8040706@sonny.org> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-Accept-Language: en-us, en User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.2) Gecko/20040804 Netscape/7.2 (ax) References: X-Archive-Number: 200611/12 X-Sequence-Number: 5556 If "resend" is not used on the alias to define your listname address, the config file will only be used when majordomo is responding to the join and remove commands. In other words, listname-list@some.domain should be a protected alias that is only referenced by the alias that calls the resend command. To answer a question with a question, what does your listname alias look like? Dan Liston Rick Sandlin wrote: > Good day everyone. > > I am having problems getting the message_header and subject_prefix and > other things to work on my list. Actually, nothing that I have in the > listname.config file is being used. I have the $listdir variable set to > point to the proper directory in my majordomo.cf file. The email > addresses in the $listdir/listname file are being emailed when I send > mail to the list. > > When I send the 'info listname' command, I get the correct information > from the $listdir/listname.info file. I am able to subscribe and > unsubscribe from the list. Yet, anything that I put in the config file > - $listdir/listname.config - does not seem to be getting picked up. > > The majordomo user has ownership and read access to the config file. > How can I go about debugging this issue? I have looked in maillog with > no help and the debug log has no helpful information (even with > $DEBUG=1; in my .cf file). > > Thank you for your time. > > Thanks, > Rick From majordomo-users-owner@greatcircle.com Fri Nov 3 15:59:40 2006 X-Original-To: majordomo-users@greatcircle.com Received: from all-in-general.com (all-in-general.com [206.216.152.160]) by mycroft.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id EB0C92900CE for ; Fri, 3 Nov 2006 15:59:39 -0800 (PST) Received: from lappy (d-72-9-10-199.metrocast.net [72.9.10.199]) by all-in-general.com (8.12.10/8.12.10) with SMTP id kA3NxZ9H012584; Fri, 3 Nov 2006 18:59:35 -0500 From: "Rick Sandlin" To: "Daniel Liston" Cc: Subject: Re: Config file not being read? Date: Fri, 3 Nov 2006 18:59:42 -0500 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <454BC946.8040706@sonny.org> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2869 X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-99.1 required=3.0 tests=AWL,USER_IN_WHITELIST autolearn=ham version=2.63 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on all-in-general.com X-Archive-Number: 200611/13 X-Sequence-Number: 5557 Well, I happened to have a resend alias commented out that I never used...once I removed my original alias (direct listname alias, no resend) and enabled the resend alias, it works! Thanks for the response. I looked all over and never found anything that indicated that resend had to be used in this fashion..I thought it was an option. Here's the resend alias I am using now: listname: "|/usr/lib/majordomo/wrapper resend -l listname listname-outgoing,nobody" listname-outgoing: :include:/var/lib/majordomo/lists/listname Problem resolved. Thank you Dan. Rick -----Original Message----- From: majordomo-users-owner@greatcircle.com [mailto:majordomo-users-owner@greatcircle.com]On Behalf Of Daniel Liston Sent: Friday, November 03, 2006 5:57 PM To: Rick Sandlin Cc: majordomo-users@greatcircle.com Subject: Re: Config file not being read? If "resend" is not used on the alias to define your listname address, the config file will only be used when majordomo is responding to the join and remove commands. In other words, listname-list@some.domain should be a protected alias that is only referenced by the alias that calls the resend command. To answer a question with a question, what does your listname alias look like? Dan Liston Rick Sandlin wrote: > Good day everyone. > > I am having problems getting the message_header and subject_prefix and > other things to work on my list. Actually, nothing that I have in the > listname.config file is being used. I have the $listdir variable set to > point to the proper directory in my majordomo.cf file. The email > addresses in the $listdir/listname file are being emailed when I send > mail to the list. > > When I send the 'info listname' command, I get the correct information > from the $listdir/listname.info file. I am able to subscribe and > unsubscribe from the list. Yet, anything that I put in the config file > - $listdir/listname.config - does not seem to be getting picked up. > > The majordomo user has ownership and read access to the config file. > How can I go about debugging this issue? I have looked in maillog with > no help and the debug log has no helpful information (even with > $DEBUG=1; in my .cf file). > > Thank you for your time. > > Thanks, > Rick From majordomo-users-owner@greatcircle.com Mon Nov 13 08:33:35 2006 X-Original-To: majordomo-users@greatcircle.com Received: from mail1.gmhwh.org (mail1.gmhwh.org [216.49.176.50]) by mycroft.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 58BCD21BD93 for ; Mon, 13 Nov 2006 08:33:30 -0800 (PST) Received: from inet-wh1.gmhwh.org (chqpvun1110.wh.ldsglobal.net [10.97.38.48]) by mail1.gmhwh.org (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id kADGXLE0014357 for ; Mon, 13 Nov 2006 09:33:22 -0700 Received: from WH-SMTP1-MTA by inet-wh1.gmhwh.org with Novell_GroupWise; Mon, 13 Nov 2006 09:33:21 -0700 Message-Id: <45583BDB0200009D0003C306@inet-wh1.gmhwh.org> X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise Internet Agent 7.0.1 Date: Mon, 13 Nov 2006 09:33:15 -0700 From: "Charlie Smith" To: Subject: Re: Set up on RH Linux ES4 References: <004a01c6ef9e$90792ed0$020aa8c0@COMCAST.NET> <4533CC72.90309@sonny.org> In-Reply-To: <4533CC72.90309@sonny.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline X-Disclaimer: True X-Proofpoint-Virus-Version: vendor=fsecure engine=4.65.5446:2.3.11,1.2.37,4.0.164 definitions=2006-11-13_03:2006-11-13,2006-11-13,2006-11-13 signatures=0 X-Archive-Number: 200611/14 X-Sequence-Number: 5558 Am getting following information in encoded file. The sender just recently changed the format of his messages such that the filename= parameter is no longer human readable, and hence, breaks the code that was expecting a human readable filename. Is there a way to translate this filename= line? Charlie Reference: --mc_mail_boundary... Content-Type: application/pdf; charset=UTF-8; name="=?UTF-8?B?RlNJIERhaWx5IFZpc2l0cyAoTGFzdCA3IERheXMpLnBkZg==?=" Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64 Content-Disposition: Attachment; filename="=?UTF-8?B?RlNJIERhaWx5IFZpc2l0cyAoTGFzdCA3IERheXMpLnBkZg==?=" Used to be filename="This is a human readable file name.pdf" ---------------------------------------------------------------------- NOTICE: This email message is for the sole use of the intended recipient(s) and may contain confidential and privileged information. Any unauthorized review, use, disclosure or distribution is prohibited. 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From majordomo-users-owner@greatcircle.com Mon Nov 13 08:46:22 2006 X-Original-To: majordomo-users@greatcircle.com X-Greylist: delayed 217 seconds by postgrey-1.24 at mycroft; Mon, 13 Nov 2006 08:46:22 PST Received: from pathfinder.xssl.net (pathfinder.xssl.net [72.249.26.7]) by mycroft.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0F3BD21BD91 for ; Mon, 13 Nov 2006 08:46:22 -0800 (PST) X-ClientAddr: 87.3.30.60 Received: from [11.0.0.10] (host60-30-dynamic.3-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it [87.3.30.60]) (authenticated bits=0) by pathfinder.xssl.net (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id kADGgBof020232 for ; Mon, 13 Nov 2006 10:42:26 -0600 Mime-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <45583BDB0200009D0003C306@inet-wh1.gmhwh.org> References: <004a01c6ef9e$90792ed0$020aa8c0@COMCAST.NET> <4533CC72.90309@sonny.org> <45583BDB0200009D0003C306@inet-wh1.gmhwh.org> Date: Mon, 13 Nov 2006 17:42:10 +0100 To: majordomo-users@greatcircle.com From: Diego Meozzi Subject: Error 65535? Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" X-xssl.net-MailScanner-Information: Please contact the ISP for more information X-xssl.net-MailScanner: Not scanned: please contact your Internet E-Mail Service Provider for details X-MailScanner-From: diego@cartabianca.com X-Archive-Number: 200611/15 X-Sequence-Number: 5559 Dear friends, Yesterday, after sending my weekly newsletter, I got this warning message from majordomo: MAJORDOMO ABORT (mj_resend)!! Mailer /usr/sbin/sendmail -oi -oee -fdiego@stonepages.com -Am -ODeliveryMode=background -OQueueDirectory=/var/spool/mqueue.site archaeo-news-outgoing exited unexpectedly with error 65535 Does anybody know what that means? Any help would be greatly appreciated! Diego Meozzi From majordomo-users-owner@greatcircle.com Mon Nov 13 09:41:47 2006 X-Original-To: majordomo-users@greatcircle.com X-Greylist: delayed 1633 seconds by postgrey-1.24 at mycroft; Mon, 13 Nov 2006 09:41:46 PST Received: from mail.emacolet.com (mail.emacolet.com [66.166.78.87]) by mycroft.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 968F521BD5E for ; Mon, 13 Nov 2006 09:41:46 -0800 (PST) Received: from akelalt ([63.175.110.138]) (authenticated bits=0) by mail.emacolet.com (8.13.5/8.13.5) with ESMTP id kADHEVQ2011712 for ; Mon, 13 Nov 2006 09:14:32 -0800 From: "Peter P. Benac" To: Subject: Re: Error 65535? Date: Mon, 13 Nov 2006 12:14:26 -0500 Message-ID: <001601c70747$2f9dc650$8a6eaf3f@akelalt> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 Thread-Index: AccHQ0Z67qf5NmgDQ2G400bec0jZKAAA67sQ In-Reply-To: X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2962 X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.53 on 192.168.0.253 X-Archive-Number: 200611/16 X-Sequence-Number: 5560 Yes 65535 is actually a -1 that is stored in an unsigned integer and printed out. Not sure how much help that will be Regards, Pete ---- Peter P. Benac, CCNA Emacolet Networking Services, Inc Providing Network and Systems Project Management and Installation and Web Hosting. Phone: 919-618-2557 Web: http://www.emacolet.com Need quick reliable Systems or Network Management advice visit http://www.nmsusers.org To have principles... First have courage.. With principles comes integrity!!! -----Original Message----- From: majordomo-users-owner@greatcircle.com [mailto:majordomo-users-owner@greatcircle.com] On Behalf Of Diego Meozzi Sent: Monday, November 13, 2006 11:42 To: majordomo-users@greatcircle.com Subject: Error 65535? Dear friends, Yesterday, after sending my weekly newsletter, I got this warning message from majordomo: MAJORDOMO ABORT (mj_resend)!! Mailer /usr/sbin/sendmail -oi -oee -fdiego@stonepages.com -Am -ODeliveryMode=background -OQueueDirectory=/var/spool/mqueue.site archaeo-news-outgoing exited unexpectedly with error 65535 Does anybody know what that means? Any help would be greatly appreciated! Diego Meozzi From majordomo-users-owner@greatcircle.com Mon Nov 13 10:14:15 2006 X-Original-To: majordomo-users@greatcircle.com Received: from mail1.gmhwh.org (mail1.gmhwh.org [216.49.176.50]) by mycroft.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 203922900F6 for ; Mon, 13 Nov 2006 10:14:14 -0800 (PST) Received: from inet-wh2.gmhwh.org (chqpvun1111.wh.ldsglobal.net [10.97.38.49]) by mail1.gmhwh.org (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id kADIE6rX027059 for ; Mon, 13 Nov 2006 11:14:09 -0700 Received: from WH-SMTP2-MTA by inet-wh2.gmhwh.org with Novell_GroupWise; Mon, 13 Nov 2006 10:53:51 -0700 Message-Id: <45584EB60200009D0003C37A@inet-wh2.gmhwh.org> X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise Internet Agent 7.0.1 Date: Mon, 13 Nov 2006 10:53:42 -0700 From: "Charlie Smith" To: "Michael Fenimore" , Subject: Re: Set up on RH Linux ES4 References: <004a01c6ef9e$90792ed0$020aa8c0@COMCAST.NET> In-Reply-To: <004a01c6ef9e$90792ed0$020aa8c0@COMCAST.NET> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline X-Disclaimer: True X-Proofpoint-Virus-Version: vendor=fsecure engine=4.65.5446:2.3.11,1.2.37,4.0.164 definitions=2006-11-13_03:2006-11-13,2006-11-13,2006-11-13 signatures=0 X-Archive-Number: 200611/17 X-Sequence-Number: 5561 Sorry, Last message posted on this thread was erroneous. I meant it to be a new subject. Regarding your permissions, I've run MD on both Red Had and SLES. This really does look like a permissions issue. Are the permissions on your list directly such that user:mail can read? drwxr-x mail:mail lists or drwsr-s mail:mail lists Then all the files in the lists directory are: -rw-r And all the dirs under lists are: drwxrwx--- or drwxr-s--- I'm thinking MD is saying that you need to remove the world write attributes on the lists/test directory. Charlie >>> "Michael Fenimore" 10/14/2006 8:39:27 AM >>> I am trying to set up MD on a RedHat Linux, ES 4 server. I have root/admin privileges as I am root. Trying to set up MD normally, I have many errors referring to "Cannot open /usr/lib/majordomo/lists/test: World writable directory" I have tried different permissions, different users all to no avail. Sendmail is running as user mail and group wheel (8.10) I have had MD running on other systems with no problems in the past. But with ES4 I'm having major issues. Hope someone can help with this. TIA Michael Fenimore SysAdmin/WebMaster Griefnet.org ---------------------------------------------------------------------- NOTICE: This email message is for the sole use of the intended recipient(s) and may contain confidential and privileged information. Any unauthorized review, use, disclosure or distribution is prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender by reply email and destroy all copies of the original message. From majordomo-users-owner@greatcircle.com Mon Nov 13 10:47:38 2006 X-Original-To: majordomo-users@greatcircle.com Received: from mail2.gmhwh.org (mail2.gmhwh.org [216.49.176.51]) by mycroft.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 036B82900B6 for ; Mon, 13 Nov 2006 10:47:34 -0800 (PST) Received: from inet-wh1.gmhwh.org (chqpvun1110.wh.ldsglobal.net [10.97.38.48]) by mail2.gmhwh.org (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id kADIlXvM023177 for ; Mon, 13 Nov 2006 11:47:34 -0700 Received: from WH-SMTP1-MTA by inet-wh1.gmhwh.org with Novell_GroupWise; Mon, 13 Nov 2006 11:47:33 -0700 Message-Id: <45585B4E0200009D0003C3AA@inet-wh1.gmhwh.org> X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise Internet Agent 7.0.1 Date: Mon, 13 Nov 2006 11:47:26 -0700 From: "Charlie Smith" To: "Michael Fenimore" , Subject: Re: Set up on RH Linux ES4 References: <004a01c6ef9e$90792ed0$020aa8c0@COMCAST.NET> <45584EB60200009D0003C37A@inet-wh2.gmhwh.org> In-Reply-To: <45584EB60200009D0003C37A@inet-wh2.gmhwh.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline X-Disclaimer: True X-Proofpoint-Virus-Version: vendor=fsecure engine=4.65.5446:2.3.11,1.2.37,4.0.164 definitions=2006-11-13_03:2006-11-13,2006-11-13,2006-11-13 signatures=0 X-Archive-Number: 200611/18 X-Sequence-Number: 5562 Of course this is an old post of yours. I assume Daniel got to the crux of the issue with your question also. Sorry to bother you. Charlie >>> "Charlie Smith" 11/13/2006 10:53:42 AM >>> Sorry, Last message posted on this thread was erroneous. I meant it to be a new subject. Regarding your permissions, I've run MD on both Red Had and SLES. This really does look like a permissions issue. Are the permissions on your list directly such that user:mail can read? drwxr-x mail:mail lists or drwsr-s mail:mail lists Then all the files in the lists directory are: -rw-r And all the dirs under lists are: drwxrwx--- or drwxr-s--- I'm thinking MD is saying that you need to remove the world write attributes on the lists/test directory. Charlie >>> "Michael Fenimore" 10/14/2006 8:39:27 AM >>> I am trying to set up MD on a RedHat Linux, ES 4 server. I have root/admin privileges as I am root. Trying to set up MD normally, I have many errors referring to "Cannot open /usr/lib/majordomo/lists/test: World writable directory" I have tried different permissions, different users all to no avail. Sendmail is running as user mail and group wheel (8.10) I have had MD running on other systems with no problems in the past. But with ES4 I'm having major issues. Hope someone can help with this. TIA Michael Fenimore SysAdmin/WebMaster Griefnet.org ---------------------------------------------------------------------- NOTICE: This email message is for the sole use of the intended recipient(s) and may contain confidential and privileged information. Any unauthorized review, use, disclosure or distribution is prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender by reply email and destroy all copies of the original message. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- NOTICE: This email message is for the sole use of the intended recipient(s) and may contain confidential and privileged information. Any unauthorized review, use, disclosure or distribution is prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender by reply email and destroy all copies of the original message. From majordomo-users-owner@greatcircle.com Wed Nov 15 11:01:47 2006 X-Original-To: majordomo-users@greatcircle.com X-Greylist: delayed 63 seconds by postgrey-1.24 at mycroft; Wed, 15 Nov 2006 11:01:46 PST Received: from wrl.org (unknown [209.96.177.100]) by mycroft.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4E9772900DE for ; Wed, 15 Nov 2006 11:01:46 -0800 (PST) Received: from franklin.wrl.org (brett@franklin.wrl.org [127.0.0.1]) by wrl.org (8.13.4/8.13.4/Debian-3sarge3) with ESMTP id kAFJ0d2a024909 for ; Wed, 15 Nov 2006 14:00:39 -0500 Received: from localhost (brett@localhost) by franklin.wrl.org (8.13.4/8.13.4/Submit) with ESMTP id kAFJ0ZwS024905 for ; Wed, 15 Nov 2006 14:00:39 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: franklin.wrl.org: brett owned process doing -bs Date: Wed, 15 Nov 2006 14:00:35 -0500 (EST) From: Brett Charbeneau To: majordomo-users@greatcircle.com Subject: Filter for special characters? Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=ISO-8859-1; FORMAT=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8BIT Content-Id: X-Archive-Number: 200611/19 X-Sequence-Number: 5563 I would like to post a question as well as offer a solution to a particular problem we experience with majordomo every few weeks. I have a user who moderates a closed list and frequently makes posts that contain "special" characters, for lack of a better term, imbedded in her text. Here are two examples: "Paxton's 40-year career. A two-time Grammy® nominee, he has received the" "Tafelmusik of Toronto and Concerto Köln in addition to other early and" Please note the "®" and "ö" in these two lines. These are seen as control characters by the Majordomo program and cause the program to behave in unpredictable ways. Posts that contain characters like this will not distribute nor bounce. QUESTION: is there a filter of some sort for MJ that will remove and or escape these sorts of characters so as to not offend/confuse? WORKAROUND: I've discovered if you cut and paste text like this into MS Word (not WordPad) and do a "Save As", selecting "MS-DOS Text (*.txt) as the "Save as type:" that these sorts of special characters will be removed in that saved file. If you then pull that file up into Word or someother text editor and cut and past into an email client things move ahead as expected. -- ******************************************************************** Brett Charbeneau Network Administrator Williamsburg Regional Library 7770 Croaker Road Williamsburg, VA 23188-7064 (757)259-4044 www.wrl.org (757)259-4079 (fax) brett@no.spam.please.wrl.org ******************************************************************** From majordomo-users-owner@greatcircle.com Wed Nov 15 11:06:55 2006 X-Original-To: majordomo-users@greatcircle.com Received: from mail.emacolet.com (mail.emacolet.com [66.166.78.87]) by mycroft.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C5FA02900EC for ; Wed, 15 Nov 2006 11:06:54 -0800 (PST) Received: from akelalt ([63.175.110.138]) (authenticated bits=0) by mail.emacolet.com (8.13.5/8.13.5) with ESMTP id kAFJ6oRJ005660; Wed, 15 Nov 2006 11:06:52 -0800 From: "Peter P. Benac" To: "'Brett Charbeneau'" , Subject: Re: Filter for special characters? Date: Wed, 15 Nov 2006 14:06:46 -0500 Message-ID: <000901c708e9$36877e40$8a6eaf3f@akelalt> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 In-Reply-To: Thread-Index: AccI6I6H/XHIPRjgSvil+L8R3MMdbQAAF2wg X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2962 X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.53 on 192.168.0.253 X-Archive-Number: 200611/20 X-Sequence-Number: 5564 =20 Considering this list is run through MD I think you need to look = elsewhere for the cause of your problems. Those characters didn't do anything to = this list. Do you have administrivia enabled or not? If you do turn it off and MD won't scan the body of your messages anymore. Regards, Pete ---- Peter P. Benac, CCNA Emacolet Networking Services, Inc Providing Network and Systems Project Management and Installation and = Web Hosting. Phone: 919-618-2557 Web: http://www.emacolet.com Need quick reliable Systems or Network Management advice visit http://www.nmsusers.org To have principles... First have courage.. With principles comes integrity!!! -----Original Message----- From: majordomo-users-owner@greatcircle.com [mailto:majordomo-users-owner@greatcircle.com] On Behalf Of Brett = Charbeneau Sent: Wednesday, November 15, 2006 14:01 To: majordomo-users@greatcircle.com Subject: Filter for special characters? I would like to post a question as well as offer a solution to a particular problem we experience with majordomo every few weeks. I have a user who moderates a closed list and frequently makes posts that contain "special" characters, for lack of a better term, imbedded = in her text. Here are two examples: "Paxton's 40-year career. A two-time Grammy=AE nominee, he has received = the" "Tafelmusik of Toronto and Concerto K=F6ln in addition to other early = and" Please note the "=AE" and "=F6" in these two lines. These are seen as control characters by the Majordomo program and cause the program to = behave in unpredictable ways. Posts that contain characters like this will not distribute nor bounce. QUESTION: is there a filter of some sort for MJ that will remove and or escape these sorts of characters so as to not offend/confuse? WORKAROUND: I've discovered if you cut and paste text like this into MS Word (not WordPad) and do a "Save As", selecting "MS-DOS Text (*.txt) = as the "Save as type:" that these sorts of special characters will be = removed in that saved file. If you then pull that file up into Word or someother text editor and cut and past into an email client things move ahead as expected. -- ******************************************************************** Brett Charbeneau Network Administrator Williamsburg Regional Library 7770 Croaker Road Williamsburg, VA 23188-7064 (757)259-4044 www.wrl.org (757)259-4079 (fax) brett@no.spam.please.wrl.org ******************************************************************** From majordomo-users-owner@greatcircle.com Wed Nov 15 11:13:04 2006 X-Original-To: majordomo-users@greatcircle.com Received: from wrl.org (unknown [209.96.177.100]) by mycroft.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A18612900E0 for ; Wed, 15 Nov 2006 11:13:03 -0800 (PST) Received: from franklin.wrl.org (brett@franklin.wrl.org [127.0.0.1]) by wrl.org (8.13.4/8.13.4/Debian-3sarge3) with ESMTP id kAFJCucE026377; Wed, 15 Nov 2006 14:12:56 -0500 Received: from localhost (brett@localhost) by franklin.wrl.org (8.13.4/8.13.4/Submit) with ESMTP id kAFJCt76026374; Wed, 15 Nov 2006 14:12:55 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: franklin.wrl.org: brett owned process doing -bs Date: Wed, 15 Nov 2006 14:12:55 -0500 (EST) From: Brett Charbeneau To: "Peter P. Benac" Cc: majordomo-users@greatcircle.com Subject: Re: Filter for special characters? In-Reply-To: <000901c708e9$36877e40$8a6eaf3f@akelalt> Message-ID: References: <000901c708e9$36877e40$8a6eaf3f@akelalt> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8BIT X-Archive-Number: 200611/21 X-Sequence-Number: 5565 Thanks for the response, Peter! Excellent suggestion. I should add that the characters only seem to gum up moderated lists and I did want to offer a solution to posterity. But you are absolutely correct: I do have administrivia enabled on this list, which I will remove forthwith. ******************************************************************** Brett Charbeneau Network Administrator Williamsburg Regional Library 7770 Croaker Road Williamsburg, VA 23188-7064 (757)259-4044 www.wrl.org (757)259-4079 (fax) brett@no.spam.please.wrl.org ******************************************************************** On Wed, 15 Nov 2006, Peter P. Benac wrote: PPB> PPB> Considering this list is run through MD I think you need to look elsewhere PPB> for the cause of your problems. Those characters didn't do anything to this PPB> list. PPB> PPB> Do you have administrivia enabled or not? If you do turn it off and MD PPB> won't scan the body of your messages anymore. PPB> PPB> Regards, PPB> Pete PPB> ---- PPB> Peter P. Benac, CCNA PPB> Emacolet Networking Services, Inc PPB> Providing Network and Systems Project Management and Installation and Web PPB> Hosting. PPB> Phone: 919-618-2557 PPB> Web: http://www.emacolet.com PPB> Need quick reliable Systems or Network Management advice visit PPB> http://www.nmsusers.org PPB> PPB> To have principles... PPB> First have courage.. With principles comes integrity!!! PPB> -----Original Message----- PPB> From: majordomo-users-owner@greatcircle.com PPB> [mailto:majordomo-users-owner@greatcircle.com] On Behalf Of Brett Charbeneau PPB> Sent: Wednesday, November 15, 2006 14:01 PPB> To: majordomo-users@greatcircle.com PPB> Subject: Filter for special characters? PPB> PPB> I would like to post a question as well as offer a solution to a PPB> particular problem we experience with majordomo every few weeks. PPB> I have a user who moderates a closed list and frequently makes posts PPB> that contain "special" characters, for lack of a better term, imbedded in PPB> her text. PPB> Here are two examples: PPB> PPB> "Paxton's 40-year career. A two-time Grammy® nominee, he has received the" PPB> PPB> "Tafelmusik of Toronto and Concerto Köln in addition to other early and" PPB> PPB> Please note the "®" and "ö" in these two lines. These are seen as PPB> control characters by the Majordomo program and cause the program to behave PPB> in unpredictable ways. Posts that contain characters like this will not PPB> distribute nor bounce. PPB> QUESTION: is there a filter of some sort for MJ that will remove and PPB> or escape these sorts of characters so as to not offend/confuse? PPB> WORKAROUND: I've discovered if you cut and paste text like this into PPB> MS Word (not WordPad) and do a "Save As", selecting "MS-DOS Text (*.txt) as PPB> the "Save as type:" that these sorts of special characters will be removed PPB> in that saved file. PPB> If you then pull that file up into Word or someother text editor and PPB> cut and past into an email client things move ahead as expected. PPB> PPB> PPB> -- PPB> ******************************************************************** PPB> Brett Charbeneau PPB> Network Administrator PPB> Williamsburg Regional Library PPB> 7770 Croaker Road PPB> Williamsburg, VA 23188-7064 PPB> (757)259-4044 www.wrl.org PPB> (757)259-4079 (fax) brett@no.spam.please.wrl.org PPB> ******************************************************************** PPB> PPB> PPB> -- From majordomo-users-owner@greatcircle.com Mon Nov 20 23:39:44 2006 X-Original-To: majordomo-users@greatcircle.com X-Greylist: delayed 1735 seconds by postgrey-1.24 at mycroft; Mon, 20 Nov 2006 23:39:43 PST Received: from mailbox.onlinepolicy.net (mailbox.onlinepolicy.net [64.62.161.194]) by mycroft.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id BE68A21BD64 for ; Mon, 20 Nov 2006 23:39:43 -0800 (PST) Received: from [192.168.7.104] (c-67-168-99-147.hsd1.wa.comcast.net [67.168.99.147]) by mailbox.onlinepolicy.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id CB2117350C; Mon, 20 Nov 2006 23:10:43 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <4562A672.7040708@queernet.org> Date: Mon, 20 Nov 2006 23:10:42 -0800 From: "Roger B.A. Klorese" User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.7 (Windows/20060909) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "Peter P. Benac" Cc: 'Brett Charbeneau' , majordomo-users@greatcircle.com Subject: Re: Filter for special characters? References: <000901c708e9$36877e40$8a6eaf3f@akelalt> In-Reply-To: <000901c708e9$36877e40$8a6eaf3f@akelalt> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Archive-Number: 200611/22 X-Sequence-Number: 5566 Peter P. Benac wrote: > > Considering this list is run through MD I think you need to look elsewhere > for the cause of your problems. Actually, this list is run through Majordomo2.