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Friends: I have problem when i install MAjordomo in my Fedora Core 2 (Linux=
)
with PLESK  (SW soft) like tool


[root@rorix2 majordomo-1.94.5]# make wrapper
/usr/lib/gcc   -DBIN=3D\"/root/MAJORDOMO/\"
-DPATH=3D\"PATH=3D/bin:/usr/bin:/usr/ucb\" -DHOME=3D\"HOME=3D/root/MAJORDOM=
O/\"
-DSHELL=3D\"SHELL=3D/bin/sh\"
-DMAJORDOMO_CF=3D\"MAJORDOMO_CF=3D/root/MAJORDOMO//majordomo.cf\"
-DPOSIX_UID=3D10002 -DPOSIX_GID=3D2 -o wrapper wrapper.c
make: execvp: /usr/lib/gcc: Permission denied
make: *** [wrapper] Error 127


-i don=B4t what to do?

   Could you help me Thanks

      JORGE

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<div>Friends: I have problem when i install MAjordomo in my Fedora Core 2 (=
Linux) with PLESK&nbsp; (SW soft) like tool</div>
<div>&nbsp;</div>
<div>&nbsp;</div>
<div>[root@rorix2 majordomo-1.94.5]# make wrapper<br>/usr/lib/gcc&nbsp;&nbs=
p; -DBIN=3D\&quot;/root/MAJORDOMO/\&quot; -DPATH=3D\&quot;PATH=3D/bin:/usr/=
bin:/usr/ucb\&quot; -DHOME=3D\&quot;HOME=3D/root/MAJORDOMO/\&quot; -DSHELL=
=3D\&quot;SHELL=3D/bin/sh\&quot; -DMAJORDOMO_CF=3D\&quot;MAJORDOMO_CF=3D/ro=
ot/MAJORDOMO//majordomo.cf\&quot; -DPOSIX_UID=3D10002 -DPOSIX_GID=3D2 -o wr=
apper=20
wrapper.c<br>make: execvp: /usr/lib/gcc: Permission denied<br>make: *** [wr=
apper] Error 127<br>&nbsp;</div>
<div>&nbsp;</div>
<div>-i don=B4t what&nbsp;to do?</div>
<div>&nbsp;</div>
<div>&nbsp;&nbsp; Could you help me Thanks</div><span class=3D"sg">
<div>&nbsp;</div>
<div>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; JORGE</div></span>

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Rainer:

   I told you, I used to use Mailinglist of Plesk Reloaded 7,5,4
(linux) massive mails, the problem the Mailing List Plesk failed, and some
friend told me to use Majordomo with Plesk,  i did all the stpes but when  i
have to compile before make install. i get this error,  I used cc = gcc
(makefile) directly but i get the same error, i get the same error in
different paths. With capital letter and small letter all the same error.

 I decided to send this error to the Forum of Majordomo  to get same answer
or help to this.

   Thanks for your help.

        Jorge
Santiago - Chile








2006/12/15, Rainer Sokoll <R.Sokoll@intershop.de>:
>
> On Fri, Dec 15, 2006 at 02:51:21PM -0300, Jorge Rozas wrote:
>
> > [root@rorix2 majordomo-1.94.5]# make wrapper
> > /usr/lib/gcc   -DBIN=\"/root/MAJORDOMO/\"
>
> /usr/lib/gcc? That is really strange, are you sure about the path?
>
> Rainer
>

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<div>&nbsp;</div>
<div>Rainer:</div>
<div>&nbsp;</div>
<div>&nbsp;&nbsp; I told you, I used to use Mailinglist of Plesk Reloaded 7,5,4 (linux)&nbsp;massive mails, the problem the Mailing List Plesk failed, and some friend told me to use Majordomo with Plesk,&nbsp; i did all the stpes but when &nbsp;i have to compile before make install. i get this error,&nbsp; I used cc = gcc (makefile)&nbsp;directly but i get the same error, i get the same error in different paths. With capital letter and small letter all the same error.
</div>
<div>&nbsp;</div>
<div>&nbsp;I decided to&nbsp;send&nbsp;this error to the Forum of Majordomo&nbsp;&nbsp;to get same answer or help to this.</div>
<div>&nbsp;</div>
<div>&nbsp;&nbsp; Thanks for your help.</div>
<div>&nbsp;</div>
<div>&nbsp;&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Jorge</div>
<div>Santiago - Chile</div>
<div>&nbsp;</div>
<div>&nbsp;</div>
<div>&nbsp;</div>
<div>&nbsp;</div>
<div>&nbsp;</div>
<div><br><br>&nbsp;</div>
<div><span class="gmail_quote">2006/12/15, Rainer Sokoll &lt;<a href="mailto:R.Sokoll@intershop.de">R.Sokoll@intershop.de</a>&gt;:</span>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="PADDING-LEFT: 1ex; MARGIN: 0px 0px 0px 0.8ex; BORDER-LEFT: #ccc 1px solid">On Fri, Dec 15, 2006 at 02:51:21PM -0300, Jorge Rozas wrote:<br><br>&gt; [root@rorix2 majordomo-1.94.5]# make wrapper
<br>&gt; /usr/lib/gcc&nbsp;&nbsp; -DBIN=\&quot;/root/MAJORDOMO/\&quot;<br><br>/usr/lib/gcc? That is really strange, are you sure about the path?<br><br>Rainer<br></blockquote></div><br>

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What they are trying to tell you is GCC is usually installed in to /usr/bin
or /usr/local/bin   The GCC in the lib directory is a directory not an
executable.  Change the path to gcc to /usr/bin/gcc  and it should work just
fine
 

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From: majordomo-users-owner@greatcircle.com
[mailto:majordomo-users-owner@greatcircle.com] On Behalf Of Jorge Rozas
Sent: Monday, December 18, 2006 07:40
To: Rainer Sokoll; Jorge Rozas; majordomo-users@greatcircle.com
Subject: Re: Error with wrapper


 
Rainer:
 
   I told you, I used to use Mailinglist of Plesk Reloaded 7,5,4 (linux)
massive mails, the problem the Mailing List Plesk failed, and some friend
told me to use Majordomo with Plesk,  i did all the stpes but when  i have
to compile before make install. i get this error,  I used cc = gcc
(makefile) directly but i get the same error, i get the same error in
different paths. With capital letter and small letter all the same error. 
 
 I decided to send this error to the Forum of Majordomo  to get same answer
or help to this.
 
   Thanks for your help.
 
        Jorge
Santiago - Chile
 
 
 
 
 


 
2006/12/15, Rainer Sokoll <R.Sokoll@intershop.de>: 

On Fri, Dec 15, 2006 at 02:51:21PM -0300, Jorge Rozas wrote:

> [root@rorix2 majordomo-1.94.5]# make wrapper 
> /usr/lib/gcc   -DBIN=\"/root/MAJORDOMO/\"

/usr/lib/gcc? That is really strange, are you sure about the path?

Rainer




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<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
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Hello,

The last days I am having this problem, it seems that all the messages
that goes trough majordomo are getting queued, here is a mailq output:

kBKFLeZP009438        0      30769 Dec 20 12:21 owner-prueba
                 (Deferred: prog mailer (/usr/sbin/smrsh) exited with
EX_TEMPFAIL)

(---prueba:8:0:<prueba@udesa.edu.ar>---)

"|/usr/local/majordomo/wrapper resend -l prueba prueba-list-00FF
                 (Deferred: prog mailer (/usr/sbin/smrsh) exited with
EX_TEMPFAIL)

A message sent directly to a mailbox get passed without a problem.
I have completely no idea of what is happening,
Any help is most welcome.

Thanks,
Matias



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Has anything been installed on your server that could have replaced the
/etc/smrsh/wrapper link to /usr/local/majordomo/wrapper?

Has the machine been busy (high cpu) where majordomo might not be able
to pass mail to the MTA?

When you refer to messages sent directly to a mailbox, do you mean by
majordomo or by some other source?

Considering the failure is temporary, does the mail eventually get
delivered?

Dan Liston

Matias Lopez Bergero wrote:

> Hello,
> 
> The last days I am having this problem, it seems that all the messages
> that goes trough majordomo are getting queued, here is a mailq output:
> 
> kBKFLeZP009438        0      30769 Dec 20 12:21 owner-prueba
>                  (Deferred: prog mailer (/usr/sbin/smrsh) exited with
> EX_TEMPFAIL)
> 
> (---prueba:8:0:<prueba@udesa.edu.ar>---)
> 
> "|/usr/local/majordomo/wrapper resend -l prueba prueba-list-00FF
>                  (Deferred: prog mailer (/usr/sbin/smrsh) exited with
> EX_TEMPFAIL)
> 
> A message sent directly to a mailbox get passed without a problem.
> I have completely no idea of what is happening,
> Any help is most welcome.
> 
> Thanks,
> Matias
> 
> 


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Hello Daniel,

Daniel Liston wrote:
> Has anything been installed on your server that could have replaced the
> /etc/smrsh/wrapper link to /usr/local/majordomo/wrapper?

no, nothing.

> Has the machine been busy (high cpu) where majordomo might not be able
> to pass mail to the MTA?

Yes, I change the $max_loadavg value to release this a little bit, but
the load isn't to much anyway.

> When you refer to messages sent directly to a mailbox, do you mean by
> majordomo or by some other source?

Sorry, I mean sending a mail to a local user from a local account or a
remote one. The message is received with no delay at all.

> Considering the failure is temporary, does the mail eventually get
> delivered?

I was happening that the message was getting in after four to six hours
later, but now is getting even worst, I haven't get a single message
trough majordomo since yesterday

I have tons of similar problems reports over the list and other mailing
lists, but no one haves give me a clue of where the problem maybe.
I configured sendmail to run without smrsh and the error was the same
but instead smrsh was /bin/sh.

Thank you,
Matias.


> Dan Liston
> 
> Matias Lopez Bergero wrote:
> 
> 
>>Hello,
>>
>>The last days I am having this problem, it seems that all the messages
>>that goes trough majordomo are getting queued, here is a mailq output:
>>
>>kBKFLeZP009438        0      30769 Dec 20 12:21 owner-prueba
>>                 (Deferred: prog mailer (/usr/sbin/smrsh) exited with
>>EX_TEMPFAIL)
>>
>>(---prueba:8:0:<prueba@udesa.edu.ar>---)
>>
>>"|/usr/local/majordomo/wrapper resend -l prueba prueba-list-00FF
>>                 (Deferred: prog mailer (/usr/sbin/smrsh) exited with
>>EX_TEMPFAIL)
>>
>>A message sent directly to a mailbox get passed without a problem.
>>I have completely no idea of what is happening,
>>Any help is most welcome.
>>
>>Thanks,
>>Matias
>>
>>
> 
> 


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Does this email come from the same server as your majordomo?  Is any
other user of the system having trouble getting mail to the outside
world?  As the root user, can you "mail -s test mailbox@other.domain"?

The real question I am asking, is if your sendmail is working.  If not,
there is no way for majordomo to work, because it depends entirely on
your MTA for email delivery.  Mail might come in ok, and work between
internal mailboxes, without being able to talk to the rest of the 'net.

Dan Liston

Matias Lopez Bergero wrote:

> Hello Daniel,
> 
> Daniel Liston wrote:
> 
>>Has anything been installed on your server that could have replaced the
>>/etc/smrsh/wrapper link to /usr/local/majordomo/wrapper?
> 
> 
> no, nothing.
> 
> 
>>Has the machine been busy (high cpu) where majordomo might not be able
>>to pass mail to the MTA?
> 
> 
> Yes, I change the $max_loadavg value to release this a little bit, but
> the load isn't to much anyway.
> 
> 
>>When you refer to messages sent directly to a mailbox, do you mean by
>>majordomo or by some other source?
> 
> 
> Sorry, I mean sending a mail to a local user from a local account or a
> remote one. The message is received with no delay at all.
> 
> 
>>Considering the failure is temporary, does the mail eventually get
>>delivered?
> 
> 
> I was happening that the message was getting in after four to six hours
> later, but now is getting even worst, I haven't get a single message
> trough majordomo since yesterday
> 
> I have tons of similar problems reports over the list and other mailing
> lists, but no one haves give me a clue of where the problem maybe.
> I configured sendmail to run without smrsh and the error was the same
> but instead smrsh was /bin/sh.
> 
> Thank you,
> Matias.
> 
> 
> 
>>Dan Liston
>>
>>Matias Lopez Bergero wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>>Hello,
>>>
>>>The last days I am having this problem, it seems that all the messages
>>>that goes trough majordomo are getting queued, here is a mailq output:
>>>
>>>kBKFLeZP009438        0      30769 Dec 20 12:21 owner-prueba
>>>                (Deferred: prog mailer (/usr/sbin/smrsh) exited with
>>>EX_TEMPFAIL)
>>>
>>>(---prueba:8:0:<prueba@udesa.edu.ar>---)
>>>
>>>"|/usr/local/majordomo/wrapper resend -l prueba prueba-list-00FF
>>>                (Deferred: prog mailer (/usr/sbin/smrsh) exited with
>>>EX_TEMPFAIL)
>>>
>>>A message sent directly to a mailbox get passed without a problem.
>>>I have completely no idea of what is happening,
>>>Any help is most welcome.
>>>
>>>Thanks,
>>>Matias
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
> 


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Daniel Liston wrote:
> Does this email come from the same server as your majordomo?  Is any
> other user of the system having trouble getting mail to the outside
> world?  As the root user, can you "mail -s test mailbox@other.domain"?
> 
> The real question I am asking, is if your sendmail is working.  If not,
> there is no way for majordomo to work, because it depends entirely on
> your MTA for email delivery.  Mail might come in ok, and work between
> internal mailboxes, without being able to talk to the rest of the 'net.

Yes, the MTA was working fine, and that was what get me confused. But I
have already solved the problem.
The problem was entirely my fault.

Wen the messages via majordomo started to arrive late, from four to six
hours of delay, I comment out the line that sets the max_loadavg
variable at the majordomo.conf. Looks like without this line majordomo
waits for the system to have 0 load average :-P.

So, after burning my brain, I try setting this parameter again, and
things works out. I feel like kind of idiot, but shit happens :-D

Now I have a question, what would be a good value to set this
configuration variable?

Thanks for your help Daniel.

BR,
Matias.


> Matias Lopez Bergero wrote:
> 
> 
>>Hello Daniel,
>>
>>Daniel Liston wrote:
>>
>>
>>>Has anything been installed on your server that could have replaced the
>>>/etc/smrsh/wrapper link to /usr/local/majordomo/wrapper?
>>
>>
>>no, nothing.
>>
>>
>>
>>>Has the machine been busy (high cpu) where majordomo might not be able
>>>to pass mail to the MTA?
>>
>>
>>Yes, I change the $max_loadavg value to release this a little bit, but
>>the load isn't to much anyway.
>>
>>
>>
>>>When you refer to messages sent directly to a mailbox, do you mean by
>>>majordomo or by some other source?
>>
>>
>>Sorry, I mean sending a mail to a local user from a local account or a
>>remote one. The message is received with no delay at all.
>>
>>
>>
>>>Considering the failure is temporary, does the mail eventually get
>>>delivered?
>>
>>
>>I was happening that the message was getting in after four to six hours
>>later, but now is getting even worst, I haven't get a single message
>>trough majordomo since yesterday
>>
>>I have tons of similar problems reports over the list and other mailing
>>lists, but no one haves give me a clue of where the problem maybe.
>>I configured sendmail to run without smrsh and the error was the same
>>but instead smrsh was /bin/sh.
>>
>>Thank you,
>>Matias.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>>Dan Liston
>>>
>>>Matias Lopez Bergero wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>Hello,
>>>>
>>>>The last days I am having this problem, it seems that all the messages
>>>>that goes trough majordomo are getting queued, here is a mailq output:
>>>>
>>>>kBKFLeZP009438        0      30769 Dec 20 12:21 owner-prueba
>>>>               (Deferred: prog mailer (/usr/sbin/smrsh) exited with
>>>>EX_TEMPFAIL)
>>>>
>>>>(---prueba:8:0:<prueba@udesa.edu.ar>---)
>>>>
>>>>"|/usr/local/majordomo/wrapper resend -l prueba prueba-list-00FF
>>>>               (Deferred: prog mailer (/usr/sbin/smrsh) exited with
>>>>EX_TEMPFAIL)
>>>>
>>>>A message sent directly to a mailbox get passed without a problem.
>>>>I have completely no idea of what is happening,
>>>>Any help is most welcome.
>>>>
>>>>Thanks,
>>>>Matias
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
> 


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Load Average is different for every machine.  If you have statistical
information regarding your machines "normal" load vs. "high" load, I
would set the max_loadavg in majordomo.cf to your high mark.  You do
not want majordomo to be the cause of pushing your machine over the
edge.

Dan Liston

Matias Lopez Bergero wrote:
> Daniel Liston wrote:
> 
>>Does this email come from the same server as your majordomo?  Is any
>>other user of the system having trouble getting mail to the outside
>>world?  As the root user, can you "mail -s test mailbox@other.domain"?
>>
>>The real question I am asking, is if your sendmail is working.  If not,
>>there is no way for majordomo to work, because it depends entirely on
>>your MTA for email delivery.  Mail might come in ok, and work between
>>internal mailboxes, without being able to talk to the rest of the 'net.
> 
> 
> Yes, the MTA was working fine, and that was what get me confused. But I
> have already solved the problem.
> The problem was entirely my fault.
> 
> Wen the messages via majordomo started to arrive late, from four to six
> hours of delay, I comment out the line that sets the max_loadavg
> variable at the majordomo.conf. Looks like without this line majordomo
> waits for the system to have 0 load average :-P.
> 
> So, after burning my brain, I try setting this parameter again, and
> things works out. I feel like kind of idiot, but shit happens :-D
> 
> Now I have a question, what would be a good value to set this
> configuration variable?
> 
> Thanks for your help Daniel.
> 
> BR,
> Matias.
> 
> 
> 
>>Matias Lopez Bergero wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>>Hello Daniel,
>>>
>>>Daniel Liston wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>Has anything been installed on your server that could have replaced the
>>>>/etc/smrsh/wrapper link to /usr/local/majordomo/wrapper?
>>>
>>>
>>>no, nothing.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>Has the machine been busy (high cpu) where majordomo might not be able
>>>>to pass mail to the MTA?
>>>
>>>
>>>Yes, I change the $max_loadavg value to release this a little bit, but
>>>the load isn't to much anyway.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>When you refer to messages sent directly to a mailbox, do you mean by
>>>>majordomo or by some other source?
>>>
>>>
>>>Sorry, I mean sending a mail to a local user from a local account or a
>>>remote one. The message is received with no delay at all.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>Considering the failure is temporary, does the mail eventually get
>>>>delivered?
>>>
>>>
>>>I was happening that the message was getting in after four to six hours
>>>later, but now is getting even worst, I haven't get a single message
>>>trough majordomo since yesterday
>>>
>>>I have tons of similar problems reports over the list and other mailing
>>>lists, but no one haves give me a clue of where the problem maybe.
>>>I configured sendmail to run without smrsh and the error was the same
>>>but instead smrsh was /bin/sh.
>>>
>>>Thank you,
>>>Matias.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>Dan Liston
>>>>
>>>>Matias Lopez Bergero wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>Hello,
>>>>>
>>>>>The last days I am having this problem, it seems that all the messages
>>>>>that goes trough majordomo are getting queued, here is a mailq output:
>>>>>
>>>>>kBKFLeZP009438        0      30769 Dec 20 12:21 owner-prueba
>>>>>              (Deferred: prog mailer (/usr/sbin/smrsh) exited with
>>>>>EX_TEMPFAIL)
>>>>>
>>>>>(---prueba:8:0:<prueba@udesa.edu.ar>---)
>>>>>
>>>>>"|/usr/local/majordomo/wrapper resend -l prueba prueba-list-00FF
>>>>>              (Deferred: prog mailer (/usr/sbin/smrsh) exited with
>>>>>EX_TEMPFAIL)
>>>>>
>>>>>A message sent directly to a mailbox get passed without a problem.
>>>>>I have completely no idea of what is happening,
>>>>>Any help is most welcome.
>>>>>
>>>>>Thanks,
>>>>>Matias
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
> 


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Daniel Liston wrote:
> Load Average is different for every machine.  If you have statistical
> information regarding your machines "normal" load vs. "high" load, I
> would set the max_loadavg in majordomo.cf to your high mark.  You do
> not want majordomo to be the cause of pushing your machine over the
> edge.

Thank you Daniel,
I'll set it according to the sar reports.

BR,
Matias.

> Matias Lopez Bergero wrote:
> 
>>Daniel Liston wrote:
>>
>>
>>>Does this email come from the same server as your majordomo?  Is any
>>>other user of the system having trouble getting mail to the outside
>>>world?  As the root user, can you "mail -s test mailbox@other.domain"?
>>>
>>>The real question I am asking, is if your sendmail is working.  If not,
>>>there is no way for majordomo to work, because it depends entirely on
>>>your MTA for email delivery.  Mail might come in ok, and work between
>>>internal mailboxes, without being able to talk to the rest of the 'net.
>>
>>
>>Yes, the MTA was working fine, and that was what get me confused. But I
>>have already solved the problem.
>>The problem was entirely my fault.
>>
>>Wen the messages via majordomo started to arrive late, from four to six
>>hours of delay, I comment out the line that sets the max_loadavg
>>variable at the majordomo.conf. Looks like without this line majordomo
>>waits for the system to have 0 load average :-P.
>>
>>So, after burning my brain, I try setting this parameter again, and
>>things works out. I feel like kind of idiot, but shit happens :-D
>>
>>Now I have a question, what would be a good value to set this
>>configuration variable?
>>
>>Thanks for your help Daniel.
>>
>>BR,
>>Matias.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>>Matias Lopez Bergero wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>Hello Daniel,
>>>>
>>>>Daniel Liston wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>Has anything been installed on your server that could have replaced the
>>>>>/etc/smrsh/wrapper link to /usr/local/majordomo/wrapper?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>no, nothing.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>Has the machine been busy (high cpu) where majordomo might not be able
>>>>>to pass mail to the MTA?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>Yes, I change the $max_loadavg value to release this a little bit, but
>>>>the load isn't to much anyway.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>When you refer to messages sent directly to a mailbox, do you mean by
>>>>>majordomo or by some other source?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>Sorry, I mean sending a mail to a local user from a local account or a
>>>>remote one. The message is received with no delay at all.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>Considering the failure is temporary, does the mail eventually get
>>>>>delivered?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>I was happening that the message was getting in after four to six hours
>>>>later, but now is getting even worst, I haven't get a single message
>>>>trough majordomo since yesterday
>>>>
>>>>I have tons of similar problems reports over the list and other mailing
>>>>lists, but no one haves give me a clue of where the problem maybe.
>>>>I configured sendmail to run without smrsh and the error was the same
>>>>but instead smrsh was /bin/sh.
>>>>
>>>>Thank you,
>>>>Matias.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>Dan Liston
>>>>>
>>>>>Matias Lopez Bergero wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>Hello,
>>>>>>
>>>>>>The last days I am having this problem, it seems that all the messages
>>>>>>that goes trough majordomo are getting queued, here is a mailq output:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>kBKFLeZP009438        0      30769 Dec 20 12:21 owner-prueba
>>>>>>             (Deferred: prog mailer (/usr/sbin/smrsh) exited with
>>>>>>EX_TEMPFAIL)
>>>>>>
>>>>>>(---prueba:8:0:<prueba@udesa.edu.ar>---)
>>>>>>
>>>>>>"|/usr/local/majordomo/wrapper resend -l prueba prueba-list-00FF
>>>>>>             (Deferred: prog mailer (/usr/sbin/smrsh) exited with
>>>>>>EX_TEMPFAIL)
>>>>>>
>>>>>>A message sent directly to a mailbox get passed without a problem.
>>>>>>I have completely no idea of what is happening,
>>>>>>Any help is most welcome.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Thanks,
>>>>>>Matias
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>