From majordomo-users-owner@greatcircle.com Thu Jan 4 17:35:53 2007 X-Original-To: majordomo-users@greatcircle.com X-Greylist: delayed 946 seconds by postgrey-1.24 at mycroft; Thu, 04 Jan 2007 17:35:50 PST Received: from msv1u.nro.nao.ac.jp (msv1u.nro.nao.ac.jp [133.40.94.201]) by mycroft.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D2FA321BD8B for ; Thu, 4 Jan 2007 17:35:50 -0800 (PST) Received: from nrose1p (nrose1-p [133.40.94.135]) by msv1u.nro.nao.ac.jp (8.12.9/8.12.9) with SMTP id l051Jqh3018680 for ; Fri, 5 Jan 2007 10:19:56 +0900 (JST) Message-ID: <00b901c73067$9b9163f0$875e2885@nrose1p> From: "Masaaki OYA" To: References: <45895D0F.1050401@udesa.edu.ar> <45897A96.8070007@sonny.org> <4589B1F0.3020002@udesa.edu.ar> <4589BA83.4040408@sonny.org> <458A998F.1060706@udesa.edu.ar> <458AB8A9.7000606@sonny.org> <458AD554.2030108@udesa.edu.ar> Subject: New question (hide mail header) Date: Fri, 5 Jan 2007 10:19:53 +0900 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-2022-jp"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3028 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3028 X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.64 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.64 (2004-01-11) on msv1u.nro.nao.ac.jp X-Archive-Number: 200701/1 X-Sequence-Number: 5577 Hi, users I'm Oya. I've a new question. I wish to hide mail header. In detail, I wish to hide next line-3 or only compadm1-going@msv1u.nro.nao.ac.jp . I set "restrict_post = compadm1" none the less because everyone can send a mail to ML. How do I do? msv1u{mladm}105: grep ^restrict compadm1.config restrict_post = compadm1 msv1u{mladm}106: For example, ML --- compadm1 registered address --- oya@nro.nao.ac.jp mail header is 1.Received: from msv1u.nro.nao.ac.jp (localhost [127.0.0.1]) 2. by msv1u.nro.nao.ac.jp (8.12.9/8.12.9) with ESMTP id l042qDh1002955 3. for ; Thu, 4 Jan 2007 11:52:13 +0900 (JST) 4.Received: (from mladm@localhost) 5. by msv1u.nro.nao.ac.jp (8.12.9/8.12.9/Submit) id l042qDmp002954 6. for compadm1-going; Thu, 4 Jan 2007 11:52:13 +0900 (JST) 7.X-Authentication-Warning: msv1u.nro.nao.ac.jp: mladm set sender to owner-compadm1 using -f 8.Received: from nrose1p (nrose1-p [133.40.94.135]) 9. by msv1u.nro.nao.ac.jp (8.12.9/8.12.9) with SMTP id l042qAh3002945 10. for ; Thu, 4 Jan 2007 11:52:13 +0900 (JST) 11.Message-ID: <006c01c72fab$53fe0d20$875e2885@nrose1p> 12.From: "Masaaki OYA" 13.To: "compadm1" 14.Subject: [compadm1 139] test from oya 15Date: Thu, 4 Jan 2007 11:52:09 +0900 Best Regards, ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Nobeyama Radio Observatory, in Japan Computer Support Team Masaaki Oya Tel. 81-267-98-4337 (NRO-SE-room) Fax. 81-267-98-2093 　( 　,,　 ) E-mail oya@nro.nao.ac.jp ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From majordomo-users-owner@greatcircle.com Thu Jan 4 20:51:12 2007 X-Original-To: majordomo-users@greatcircle.com Received: from mail.sonny.com (mail.sonny.com [70.58.223.141]) by mycroft.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9E49921BE52 for ; Thu, 4 Jan 2007 20:51:11 -0800 (PST) Received: from [127.0.0.1] (father.sonny.com [192.168.1.78]) by magnia.sonny.com (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 Patch 1 (built Aug 19 2002)) with ESMTP id <0JBD00605PF121@magnia.sonny.com> for majordomo-users@greatcircle.com; Thu, 04 Jan 2007 22:49:50 -0600 (CST) Date: Thu, 04 Jan 2007 22:51:39 -0600 From: Daniel Liston Subject: Re: New question (hide mail header) In-reply-to: <00b901c73067$9b9163f0$875e2885@nrose1p> To: Masaaki OYA Cc: majordomo-users@greatcircle.com Message-id: <459DD95B.7020700@sonny.org> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=ISO-2022-JP Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-Accept-Language: en-us, en User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.2) Gecko/20040804 Netscape/7.2 (ax) References: <45895D0F.1050401@udesa.edu.ar> <45897A96.8070007@sonny.org> <4589B1F0.3020002@udesa.edu.ar> <4589BA83.4040408@sonny.org> <458A998F.1060706@udesa.edu.ar> <458AB8A9.7000606@sonny.org> <458AD554.2030108@udesa.edu.ar> <00b901c73067$9b9163f0$875e2885@nrose1p> X-Archive-Number: 200701/2 X-Sequence-Number: 5578 For two reasons, people can post to your outgoing alias for the list. You need to use virtusertable entries to block the use of this alias. You need to prevent the advertisement of the alias from the headers. In virtusertable add something like compadm1-going@msv1u.nro.nao.ac.jp error:nouser User unknown and in your aliases file, compadm1: "|/usr/lib/majordomo/wrapper resend -l compadm1 compadm1-outgoing,nobody" Masaaki OYA wrote: > Hi, users > > I'm Oya. > I've a new question. > > I wish to hide mail header. In detail, I wish to hide next line-3 or > only compadm1-going@msv1u.nro.nao.ac.jp . > I set "restrict_post = compadm1" none the less because everyone can > send a mail to ML. How do I do? > > msv1u{mladm}105: grep ^restrict compadm1.config > restrict_post = compadm1 > msv1u{mladm}106: > > For example, > ML --- compadm1 > registered address --- oya@nro.nao.ac.jp mail header is > 1.Received: from msv1u.nro.nao.ac.jp (localhost [127.0.0.1]) > 2. by msv1u.nro.nao.ac.jp (8.12.9/8.12.9) with ESMTP id l042qDh1002955 > 3. for ; Thu, 4 Jan 2007 11:52:13 > +0900 (JST) > 4.Received: (from mladm@localhost) > 5. by msv1u.nro.nao.ac.jp (8.12.9/8.12.9/Submit) id l042qDmp002954 > 6. for compadm1-going; Thu, 4 Jan 2007 11:52:13 +0900 (JST) > 7.X-Authentication-Warning: msv1u.nro.nao.ac.jp: mladm set sender to > owner-compadm1 using -f > 8.Received: from nrose1p (nrose1-p [133.40.94.135]) > 9. by msv1u.nro.nao.ac.jp (8.12.9/8.12.9) with SMTP id l042qAh3002945 > 10. for ; Thu, 4 Jan 2007 11:52:13 +0900 (JST) > 11.Message-ID: <006c01c72fab$53fe0d20$875e2885@nrose1p> > 12.From: "Masaaki OYA" > 13.To: "compadm1" > 14.Subject: [compadm1 139] test from oya > 15Date: Thu, 4 Jan 2007 11:52:09 +0900 > > Best Regards, > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > Nobeyama Radio Observatory, in Japan > Computer Support Team Masaaki Oya > Tel. 81-267-98-4337 (NRO-SE-room) > Fax. 81-267-98-2093 　( 　,,　 ) > E-mail oya@nro.nao.ac.jp > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > From majordomo-users-owner@greatcircle.com Thu Jan 4 20:54:17 2007 X-Original-To: majordomo-users@greatcircle.com X-Greylist: delayed 709 seconds by postgrey-1.24 at mycroft; Thu, 04 Jan 2007 20:54:16 PST Received: from hkuhp22.hku.hk (hkuhp22.hku.hk [147.8.2.63]) by mycroft.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5B68421BE4D for ; Thu, 4 Jan 2007 20:54:16 -0800 (PST) Received: from kenneth ([147.8.96.86]) by hkuhp22.hku.hk (8.13.6/8.13.3) with SMTP id l054gDMD014124; Fri, 5 Jan 2007 12:42:13 +0800 (EAT) Message-ID: <009f01c73083$dedf65a0$56600893@hkupc3.hku.hk> From: "Kenneth Yip" To: "Masaaki OYA" , References: <45895D0F.1050401@udesa.edu.ar> <45897A96.8070007@sonny.org> <4589B1F0.3020002@udesa.edu.ar> <4589BA83.4040408@sonny.org> <458A998F.1060706@udesa.edu.ar> <458AB8A9.7000606@sonny.org> <458AD554.2030108@udesa.edu.ar> <00b901c73067$9b9163f0$875e2885@nrose1p> Subject: Re: New question (hide mail header) Date: Fri, 5 Jan 2007 12:42:08 +0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-2022-jp" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3028 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3028 X-MailScanner: 0 X-MailScanner-From: kkyyip@hkusua.hku.hk X-Archive-Number: 200701/3 X-Sequence-Number: 5579 Hi Oya In your sendmail alias file, add ',nobody' after compadm1-going, e.g. compadm1: "|majordomo/wrapper ........ -s compadm1-going,nobody" The distribute address will then be hidden in the header. regards, ky ----- Original Message ----- From: "Masaaki OYA" To: Sent: Friday, January 05, 2007 9:19 AM Subject: New question (hide mail header) Hi, users I'm Oya. I've a new question. I wish to hide mail header. In detail, I wish to hide next line-3 or only compadm1-going@msv1u.nro.nao.ac.jp . I set "restrict_post = compadm1" none the less because everyone can send a mail to ML. How do I do? msv1u{mladm}105: grep ^restrict compadm1.config restrict_post = compadm1 msv1u{mladm}106: For example, ML --- compadm1 registered address --- oya@nro.nao.ac.jp mail header is 1.Received: from msv1u.nro.nao.ac.jp (localhost [127.0.0.1]) 2. by msv1u.nro.nao.ac.jp (8.12.9/8.12.9) with ESMTP id l042qDh1002955 3. for ; Thu, 4 Jan 2007 11:52:13 +0900 (JST) 4.Received: (from mladm@localhost) 5. by msv1u.nro.nao.ac.jp (8.12.9/8.12.9/Submit) id l042qDmp002954 6. for compadm1-going; Thu, 4 Jan 2007 11:52:13 +0900 (JST) 7.X-Authentication-Warning: msv1u.nro.nao.ac.jp: mladm set sender to owner-compadm1 using -f 8.Received: from nrose1p (nrose1-p [133.40.94.135]) 9. by msv1u.nro.nao.ac.jp (8.12.9/8.12.9) with SMTP id l042qAh3002945 10. for ; Thu, 4 Jan 2007 11:52:13 +0900 (JST) 11.Message-ID: <006c01c72fab$53fe0d20$875e2885@nrose1p> 12.From: "Masaaki OYA" 13.To: "compadm1" 14.Subject: [compadm1 139] test from oya 15Date: Thu, 4 Jan 2007 11:52:09 +0900 Best Regards, ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Nobeyama Radio Observatory, in Japan Computer Support Team Masaaki Oya Tel. 81-267-98-4337 (NRO-SE-room) Fax. 81-267-98-2093 　( 　,,　 ) E-mail oya@nro.nao.ac.jp ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From majordomo-users-owner@greatcircle.com Fri Jan 5 01:15:39 2007 X-Original-To: majordomo-users@greatcircle.com Received: from msv1u.nro.nao.ac.jp (msv1u.nro.nao.ac.jp [133.40.94.201]) by mycroft.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3B38721BD8E for ; Fri, 5 Jan 2007 01:15:37 -0800 (PST) Received: from nrose1p (nrose1-p [133.40.94.135]) by msv1u.nro.nao.ac.jp (8.12.9/8.12.9) with SMTP id l059FRh3003385; Fri, 5 Jan 2007 18:15:35 +0900 (JST) Message-ID: <067601c730aa$0b0fd8f0$875e2885@nrose1p> From: "Masaaki OYA" To: "Daniel Liston" , "Kenneth Yip" Cc: References: <45895D0F.1050401@udesa.edu.ar> <45897A96.8070007@sonny.org> <4589B1F0.3020002@udesa.edu.ar> <4589BA83.4040408@sonny.org> <458A998F.1060706@udesa.edu.ar> <458AB8A9.7000606@sonny.org> <458AD554.2030108@udesa.edu.ar> <00b901c73067$9b9163f0$875e2885@nrose1p> <459DD95B.7020700@sonny.org> Subject: Re: New question (hide mail header) Date: Fri, 5 Jan 2007 18:15:26 +0900 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-2022-jp"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3028 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3028 X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.64 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.64 (2004-01-11) on msv1u.nro.nao.ac.jp X-Archive-Number: 200701/4 X-Sequence-Number: 5580 Dear Daniel Liston and Kenneth Yip I'm Oya. Thank you very very much. I modified the aliases like you suggested. I solved a problem. Received: from msv1u.nro.nao.ac.jp (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by msv1u.nro.nao.ac.jp (8.12.9/8.12.9) with ESMTP id l05628h1014981; Fri, 5 Jan 2007 15:02:08 +0900 (JST) Received: (from mladm@localhost) by msv1u.nro.nao.ac.jp (8.12.9/8.12.9/Submit) id l05628fV014980; Fri, 5 Jan 2007 15:02:08 +0900 (JST) X-Authentication-Warning: msv1u.nro.nao.ac.jp: mladm set sender to owner-compadm1 using -f Received: from nrose1p (nrose1-p [133.40.94.135]) by msv1u.nro.nao.ac.jp (8.12.9/8.12.9) with SMTP id l05624h3014954 for ; Fri, 5 Jan 2007 15:02:07 +0900 (JST) Message-ID: <002f01c7308f$06cad080$875e2885@nrose1p> From: "Masaaki OYA" To: "compadm1" Subject: [compadm1 141] test from oya No2 Date: Fri, 5 Jan 2007 15:02:04 +0900 > For two reasons, people can post to your outgoing alias for the list. > > You need to use virtusertable entries to block the use of this alias. > You need to prevent the advertisement of the alias from the headers. > > In virtusertable add something like > > compadm1-going@msv1u.nro.nao.ac.jp error:nouser User unknown > > and in your aliases file, > > compadm1: "|/usr/lib/majordomo/wrapper resend -l compadm1 compadm1-outgoing,nobody" > In your sendmail alias file, add ',nobody' after > compadm1-going, e.g. > compadm1: "|majordomo/wrapper ........ -s compadm1-going,nobody" > > The distribute address will then be hidden in the header. > > > regards, > ky Best Regards, ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Nobeyama Radio Observatory, in Japan Computer Support Team Masaaki Oya Tel. 81-267-98-4337 (NRO-SE-room) Fax. 81-267-98-2093 　( 　,,　 ) E-mail oya@nro.nao.ac.jp ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From majordomo-users-owner@greatcircle.com Tue Jan 16 07:38:23 2007 X-Original-To: majordomo-users@greatcircle.com X-Greylist: delayed 297 seconds by postgrey-1.24 at mycroft; Tue, 16 Jan 2007 07:38:20 PST Received: from moroni.ourldsfamily.com (ourldsfamily.com [198.60.114.90]) by mycroft.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D9EF021BD6B for ; Tue, 16 Jan 2007 07:38:20 -0800 (PST) Received: from webmail.ourldsfamily.com (moroni0 [172.20.20.2]) by moroni.ourldsfamily.com (8.13.7/8.13.7) with ESMTP id l0GFXMDq021325 for ; Tue, 16 Jan 2007 08:33:22 -0700 Received: from ats ([207.173.117.242]) (SquirrelMail authenticated user karlp) by webmail.ourldsfamily.com with HTTP; Tue, 16 Jan 2007 08:33:22 -0700 (MST) Message-ID: <50993.207.173.117.242.1168961602.squirrel@webmail.ourldsfamily.com> Date: Tue, 16 Jan 2007 08:33:22 -0700 (MST) Subject: Virtusertable Entry Failure From: karlp@ourldsfamily.com To: "Majordomo Users" User-Agent: SquirrelMail/1.4.7 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Importance: Normal X-Archive-Number: 200701/5 X-Sequence-Number: 5581 I received notice that one of my groups had been compromised by a spammer sending email to listname-outgoing@moroni.ourldsfamily.com I added a line to /etc/mail/virtusertable: listname-outgoing@moroni.ourldsfamily.com error:nouser Invalid User which works. Unfortunately, it blocks ALL email to the group. The alias is: listname: "|/opt/majordomo-1.94.5/wrapper resend -l listname listname-outgoing,nobody" owner-listname: wife@ourldsfamily.com, listname-owner: wife@ourldsfamily.com, listname-outgoing: "|/usr/local/bin/bulk_mailer -domain ourldsfamily.com -maxdomains 14 -maxrcpts 4 listname-owner@ourldsfamily.com /opt/majordomo-1.94.5/lists/listname", listname-archiver, listname-digestify listname-approval: listname-owner listname-archiver: "|/opt/majordomo-1.94.5/wrapper archive2.pl -f /opt/majordomo-1.94.5/archives/listname/listname -a -M" listname-digestify: "|/opt/majordomo-1.94.5/wrapper digest -r -C -l listname-digest listname-digest-outgoing," listname-digest: listname listname-owner-digest: listname-owner listname-digest-approval: listname-owner listname-digest-outgoing: :include:/opt/majordomo-1.94.5/lists/listname-digest There are some linewraps so I've added 2 spaces at the beginning of each line to make it more readable. My question: What Do I Do To Fix This and Stop The Spammers, too? TIA -- karl _/ _/ _/ _/_/_/ ____________ __o _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ ____________ _-\<._ _/_/ _/ _/_/_/ (_)/ (_) _/ _/ _/ _/ ...................... _/ _/ arl _/_/_/ _/ earson KarlP@ourldsfamily.com --- Senior Consulting Sys/DB Analyst http://consulting.ourldsfamily.com --- My Thoughts on Terrorism In America right after 9/11/2001: http://www.ourldsfamily.com/wtc.shtml --- The world is a dangerous place to live... not because of the people who are evil, but because of the people who don't do anything about it. - Albert Einstein --- From majordomo-users-owner@greatcircle.com Tue Jan 16 11:20:56 2007 X-Original-To: majordomo-users@greatcircle.com Received: from mail.sonny.com (mail.sonny.com [70.58.223.141]) by mycroft.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E83B121BD6B for ; Tue, 16 Jan 2007 11:20:55 -0800 (PST) Received: from [127.0.0.1] (father.sonny.com [192.168.1.78]) by magnia.sonny.com (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 Patch 1 (built Aug 19 2002)) with ESMTP id <0JBZ00O056U4NA@magnia.sonny.com> for majordomo-users@greatcircle.com; Tue, 16 Jan 2007 13:15:47 -0600 (CST) Date: Tue, 16 Jan 2007 13:20:38 -0600 From: Daniel Liston Subject: Re: Virtusertable Entry Failure In-reply-to: <50993.207.173.117.242.1168961602.squirrel@webmail.ourldsfamily.com> To: karlp@ourldsfamily.com Cc: Majordomo Users Message-id: <45AD2586.50706@sonny.org> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-Accept-Language: en-us, en User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.2) Gecko/20040804 Netscape/7.2 (ax) References: <50993.207.173.117.242.1168961602.squirrel@webmail.ourldsfamily.com> X-Archive-Number: 200701/6 X-Sequence-Number: 5582 This is more of a sendmail question than majordomo, and the virtusertable entry "should" just work. I am not sure what changed in newer versions of sendmail that would make messages from the local machine invoke use of the virtusertable at all. I always understood those settings to affect SMTP network communications only. Unfortunately, my knowledge of sendmail has faded over the last few years, and I recall bumping into this situation before, but do not remember the solution. What does your sendmail maillog entry show for the transaction? Is majordomo in your trusted users file? Is moroni in your domain names file or even in a genericstable of sorts? Have you experimented at all with possible other invocations of listname-outgoing@top.domain vs. @sub.top.domain? Is/are the spammers sending to listname-outgoing@FQDN or listname-outgoing@your.domain? Does your sendmail have the feature enabled to "always_add_domain"? Any of these could introduce the what you are seeing. What does the "hostname" or "domainname" command show you? Since you are already using methods to hide the -outgoing alias from showing up in message headers, a simple band-aid would be to rename all occurrences of listname-outgoing to listname-secretrandomtext. Since this should never be visible outside your own mail system, you could even change randomtext as often as you like to stay ahead of spammers that may "discover" it's value. In the mean time, I will do some googling of sendmail virtusertable and see if I can offer any other suggestions. Dan Liston karlp@ourldsfamily.com wrote: > I received notice that one of my groups had been compromised by a spammer > sending email to listname-outgoing@moroni.ourldsfamily.com > > I added a line to /etc/mail/virtusertable: > > listname-outgoing@moroni.ourldsfamily.com error:nouser Invalid User > > which works. Unfortunately, it blocks ALL email to the group. The alias is: > > listname: "|/opt/majordomo-1.94.5/wrapper resend -l listname > listname-outgoing,nobody" > owner-listname: wife@ourldsfamily.com, > listname-owner: wife@ourldsfamily.com, > listname-outgoing: "|/usr/local/bin/bulk_mailer -domain ourldsfamily.com > -maxdomains 14 -maxrcpts 4 listname-owner@ourldsfamily.com > /opt/majordomo-1.94.5/lists/listname", listname-archiver, listname-digestify > listname-approval: listname-owner > listname-archiver: "|/opt/majordomo-1.94.5/wrapper archive2.pl -f > /opt/majordomo-1.94.5/archives/listname/listname -a -M" > listname-digestify: "|/opt/majordomo-1.94.5/wrapper digest -r -C -l > listname-digest listname-digest-outgoing," > listname-digest: listname > listname-owner-digest: listname-owner > listname-digest-approval: listname-owner > listname-digest-outgoing: :include:/opt/majordomo-1.94.5/lists/listname-digest > > There are some linewraps so I've added 2 spaces at the beginning of each line > to make it more readable. > > My question: What Do I Do To Fix This and Stop The Spammers, too? > > TIA > From majordomo-users-owner@greatcircle.com Tue Jan 16 12:38:50 2007 X-Original-To: majordomo-users@greatcircle.com X-Greylist: delayed 2668 seconds by postgrey-1.24 at mycroft; Tue, 16 Jan 2007 12:38:49 PST Received: from wrenkasky.com (esson.net [216.102.129.43]) by mycroft.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 56C1721BD6B for ; Tue, 16 Jan 2007 12:38:49 -0800 (PST) Received: from KASKY2.esson.net (kasky2.priority.usc.edu [128.125.120.92]) (authenticated bits=0) by wrenkasky.com (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id l0GJsDQY024343 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT); Tue, 16 Jan 2007 11:54:19 -0800 Message-Id: <7.0.1.0.2.20070116114457.023e9010@esson.net> X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 7.0.1.0 Date: Tue, 16 Jan 2007 11:54:04 -0800 To: karlp@ourldsfamily.com From: Ed Kasky Subject: Re: Virtusertable Entry Failure Cc: Majordomo Users In-Reply-To: <45AD2586.50706@sonny.org> References: <50993.207.173.117.242.1168961602.squirrel@webmail.ourldsfamily.com> <45AD2586.50706@sonny.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Received-SPF: pass (wrenkasky.com: 128.125.120.92 is authenticated by a trusted mechanism) X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV 0.90rc2/2457/Tue Jan 16 03:53:04 2007 on yoda2.wrenkasky.com X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Archive-Number: 200701/7 X-Sequence-Number: 5583 Just to cover the basics, I am sure you rebuilt the db after editing the virtusertable file right? ;-) The suggestion to see what the log shows is a good one. You could even set the debug level to 9, restart sendmail and try sending a message to the list and checking the maillog, and then reset the debug back to whatever it was beforehand... Ed At 11:20 AM Tuesday, 1/16/2007, Daniel Liston wrote -=> >What does your sendmail maillog entry show for the transaction? Is majordomo >in your trusted users file? Is moroni in your domain names file or even in >a genericstable of sorts? Have you experimented at all with possible other >invocations of listname-outgoing@top.domain vs. @sub.top.domain? Is/are the >spammers sending to listname-outgoing@FQDN or listname-outgoing@your.domain? >Does your sendmail have the feature enabled to "always_add_domain"? Any of >these could introduce the what you are seeing. What does the "hostname" or >"domainname" command show you? > >Since you are already using methods to hide the -outgoing alias from showing >up in message headers, a simple band-aid would be to rename all occurrences >of listname-outgoing to listname-secretrandomtext. Since this should never >be visible outside your own mail system, you could even change randomtext as >often as you like to stay ahead of spammers that may "discover" it's value. > >In the mean time, I will do some googling of sendmail virtusertable and see >if I can offer any other suggestions. > >Dan Liston > >karlp@ourldsfamily.com wrote: > > > I received notice that one of my groups had been compromised by a spammer > > sending email to listname-outgoing@moroni.ourldsfamily.com > > > > I added a line to /etc/mail/virtusertable: > > > > listname-outgoing@moroni.ourldsfamily.com error:nouser Invalid User > > > > which works. Unfortunately, it blocks ALL email to the group. The alias is: > > > > listname: "|/opt/majordomo-1.94.5/wrapper resend -l listname > > listname-outgoing,nobody" > > owner-listname: wife@ourldsfamily.com, > > listname-owner: wife@ourldsfamily.com, > > listname-outgoing: "|/usr/local/bin/bulk_mailer -domain ourldsfamily.com > > -maxdomains 14 -maxrcpts 4 listname-owner@ourldsfamily.com > > /opt/majordomo-1.94.5/lists/listname", listname-archiver, > listname-digestify > > listname-approval: listname-owner > > listname-archiver: "|/opt/majordomo-1.94.5/wrapper archive2.pl -f > > /opt/majordomo-1.94.5/archives/listname/listname -a -M" > > listname-digestify: "|/opt/majordomo-1.94.5/wrapper digest -r -C -l > > listname-digest listname-digest-outgoing," > > listname-digest: listname > > listname-owner-digest: listname-owner > > listname-digest-approval: listname-owner > > listname-digest-outgoing: > :include:/opt/majordomo-1.94.5/lists/listname-digest > > > > There are some linewraps so I've added 2 spaces at the beginning > of each line > > to make it more readable. > > > > My question: What Do I Do To Fix This and Stop The Spammers, too? > > > > TIA > > Ed Kasky ~~~~~~~~~ Randomly Generated Quote (417 of 526): One time I went to a museum where all the work in the museum had been done by children. They had all the paintings up on refrigerators. --Steven Wright From majordomo-users-owner@greatcircle.com Tue Jan 16 12:45:05 2007 X-Original-To: majordomo-users@greatcircle.com Received: from mail.sonny.com (mail.sonny.com [70.58.223.141]) by mycroft.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0343721BD97 for ; Tue, 16 Jan 2007 12:45:04 -0800 (PST) Received: from [127.0.0.1] (father.sonny.com [192.168.1.78]) by magnia.sonny.com (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 Patch 1 (built Aug 19 2002)) with ESMTP id <0JBZ00O0EAQESE@magnia.sonny.com> for majordomo-users@greatcircle.com; Tue, 16 Jan 2007 14:39:56 -0600 (CST) Date: Tue, 16 Jan 2007 14:40:30 -0600 From: Daniel Liston Subject: Re: Virtusertable Entry Failure In-reply-to: <45AD2586.50706@sonny.org> To: Majordomo Users Cc: karlp@ourldsfamily.com Message-id: <45AD383E.1020506@sonny.org> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-Accept-Language: en-us, en User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.2) Gecko/20040804 Netscape/7.2 (ax) References: <50993.207.173.117.242.1168961602.squirrel@webmail.ourldsfamily.com> <45AD2586.50706@sonny.org> X-Archive-Number: 200701/8 X-Sequence-Number: 5584 I found this, but not sure if it helps. In your /etc/mail/mailertable should be lines like; ourldsfamily.com smtp:.ourldsfamily.com moroni.ourldsfamily.com local: and be sure moroni.ourldsfamily.com is listed in /etc/mail/local-host-names Daniel Liston wrote: > This is more of a sendmail question than majordomo, and the virtusertable > entry "should" just work. I am not sure what changed in newer versions of > sendmail that would make messages from the local machine invoke use of the > virtusertable at all. I always understood those settings to affect SMTP > network communications only. > > Unfortunately, my knowledge of sendmail has faded over the last few years, > and I recall bumping into this situation before, but do not remember the > solution. > > What does your sendmail maillog entry show for the transaction? Is majordomo > in your trusted users file? Is moroni in your domain names file or even in > a genericstable of sorts? Have you experimented at all with possible other > invocations of listname-outgoing@top.domain vs. @sub.top.domain? Is/are the > spammers sending to listname-outgoing@FQDN or listname-outgoing@your.domain? > Does your sendmail have the feature enabled to "always_add_domain"? Any of > these could introduce the what you are seeing. What does the "hostname" or > "domainname" command show you? > > Since you are already using methods to hide the -outgoing alias from showing > up in message headers, a simple band-aid would be to rename all occurrences > of listname-outgoing to listname-secretrandomtext. Since this should never > be visible outside your own mail system, you could even change randomtext as > often as you like to stay ahead of spammers that may "discover" it's value. > > In the mean time, I will do some googling of sendmail virtusertable and see > if I can offer any other suggestions. > > Dan Liston > > karlp@ourldsfamily.com wrote: > > >>I received notice that one of my groups had been compromised by a spammer >>sending email to listname-outgoing@moroni.ourldsfamily.com >> >>I added a line to /etc/mail/virtusertable: >> >> listname-outgoing@moroni.ourldsfamily.com error:nouser Invalid User >> >>which works. Unfortunately, it blocks ALL email to the group. The alias is: >> >> listname: "|/opt/majordomo-1.94.5/wrapper resend -l listname >>listname-outgoing,nobody" >> owner-listname: wife@ourldsfamily.com, >> listname-owner: wife@ourldsfamily.com, >> listname-outgoing: "|/usr/local/bin/bulk_mailer -domain ourldsfamily.com >>-maxdomains 14 -maxrcpts 4 listname-owner@ourldsfamily.com >>/opt/majordomo-1.94.5/lists/listname", listname-archiver, listname-digestify >> listname-approval: listname-owner >> listname-archiver: "|/opt/majordomo-1.94.5/wrapper archive2.pl -f >>/opt/majordomo-1.94.5/archives/listname/listname -a -M" >> listname-digestify: "|/opt/majordomo-1.94.5/wrapper digest -r -C -l >>listname-digest listname-digest-outgoing," >> listname-digest: listname >> listname-owner-digest: listname-owner >> listname-digest-approval: listname-owner >> listname-digest-outgoing: :include:/opt/majordomo-1.94.5/lists/listname-digest >> >>There are some linewraps so I've added 2 spaces at the beginning of each line >>to make it more readable. >> >>My question: What Do I Do To Fix This and Stop The Spammers, too? >> >>TIA >> > > From majordomo-users-owner@greatcircle.com Wed Jan 24 12:40:42 2007 X-Original-To: Majordomo-Users@greatcircle.com X-Greylist: delayed 307 seconds by postgrey-1.24 at mycroft; Wed, 24 Jan 2007 12:40:41 PST Received: from imo-m18.mx.aol.com (imo-m18.mx.aol.com [64.12.138.208]) by mycroft.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5D83621BD83 for ; Wed, 24 Jan 2007 12:40:41 -0800 (PST) Received: from GregRLevy@aol.com by imo-m18.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v38_r7.6.) id o.ccf.7ecdf87 (14502) for ; Wed, 24 Jan 2007 15:35:28 -0500 (EST) From: GregRLevy@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Wed, 24 Jan 2007 15:35:25 EST Subject: New User Question HTML Mail To: Majordomo-Users@GreatCircle.COM MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="-----------------------------1169670925" X-Mailer: 9.0 Security Edition for Windows sub 5354 X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Archive-Number: 200701/9 X-Sequence-Number: 5585 -------------------------------1169670925 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi, What is the procedure for sending HTML mail to my subscribers? Thanks Greg -------------------------------1169670925 Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hi,
 
What is the procedure for sending HTML mail to my subscribers?
 
Thanks
Greg
 -------------------------------1169670925-- From majordomo-users-owner@greatcircle.com Thu Jan 25 04:38:54 2007 X-Original-To: Majordomo-Users@greatcircle.com X-Greylist: delayed 3582 seconds by postgrey-1.24 at mycroft; Thu, 25 Jan 2007 04:38:53 PST Received: from hosting2.twrochester.com (hosting2.twrochester.com [24.93.1.21]) by mycroft.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 047DF21BD8E for ; Thu, 25 Jan 2007 04:38:52 -0800 (PST) X-ClientAddr: 72.43.254.137 Received: from psasm.biz (rrcs-72-43-254-137.nys.biz.rr.com [72.43.254.137]) (authenticated bits=0) by hosting2.twrochester.com (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id l0PBbkPq026983; Thu, 25 Jan 2007 06:37:46 -0500 Received: from emba1404 (rrcs-72-43-254-137.nys.biz.rr.com [72.43.254.137]) (authenticated bits=0) by psasm.biz (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id l0PBd95k003524; Thu, 25 Jan 2007 06:39:09 -0500 From: "Robert Doty" To: , References: Subject: Re: New User Question HTML Mail Date: Thu, 25 Jan 2007 06:39:09 -0500 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_014D_01C7404B.858E7860" X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 Thread-Index: Acc/+AV/j0YPdAraQsylAkoQfWqVDwAfTycg X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3028 In-Reply-To: X-yoursite-MailScanner-Information: Please contact the ISP for more information X-yoursite-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-MailScanner-From: rdoty@psasm.biz X-Archive-Number: 200701/10 X-Sequence-Number: 5586 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_014D_01C7404B.858E7860 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Greg, What is it that you are trying to accomplish? HTML Messages should pass through majordomo successfully. Do you want to alter the majordomo admin messages to be HTML? Thanks, Rob ----------------------------------------------------- Owner, Rochester Classifieds Online http://RochesterClassifiedsOnline.biz _____ From: majordomo-users-owner@greatcircle.com [mailto:majordomo-users-owner@greatcircle.com] On Behalf Of GregRLevy@aol.com Sent: Wednesday, January 24, 2007 3:35 PM To: Majordomo-Users@greatcircle.com Subject: New User Question HTML Mail Hi, What is the procedure for sending HTML mail to my subscribers? Thanks Greg ------=_NextPart_000_014D_01C7404B.858E7860 Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Greg,
 
What is it = that you are=20 trying to accomplish?  HTML Messages should pass through majordomo=20 successfully.  Do you want to alter the majordomo admin messages to = be=20 HTML?
 
Thanks,
 
Rob
 
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Owner, Rochester Classifieds Online
http://RochesterClassifie= dsOnline.biz
 
 

From: majordomo-users-owner@greatcircle.com=20 [mailto:majordomo-users-owner@greatcircle.com] On Behalf Of=20 GregRLevy@aol.com
Sent: Wednesday, January 24, 2007 3:35=20 PM
To: Majordomo-Users@greatcircle.com
Subject: New = User=20 Question HTML Mail

Hi,
 
What is the procedure for sending HTML mail to my = subscribers?
 
Thanks
Greg
 ------=_NextPart_000_014D_01C7404B.858E7860-- From majordomo-users-owner@greatcircle.com Fri Jan 26 08:05:23 2007 X-Original-To: majordomo-users@greatcircle.com X-Greylist: delayed 878 seconds by postgrey-1.24 at mycroft; Fri, 26 Jan 2007 08:05:22 PST Received: from mail.omnitec.net (mail.omnitec.net [206.197.251.199]) by mycroft.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A35C721BE52 for ; Fri, 26 Jan 2007 08:05:22 -0800 (PST) Received: from Huey.omnitec.net (huey.omnitec.net [206.197.251.1]) by mail.omnitec.net (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id l0QFjFh0006688 for ; Fri, 26 Jan 2007 09:45:20 -0600 (CST) Message-Id: <4.3.2.7.2.20070126093013.01ce2890@mail.omnitec.net> X-Sender: lvl@mail.omnitec.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 4.3.2 Date: Fri, 26 Jan 2007 09:51:19 -0600 To: Majordomo List From: "L. V. Lammert" Subject: Spurious Rejects? Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed X-SPAM-Info: Omnitec Corporation MailScanner X-SPAM-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-Archive-Number: 200701/11 X-Sequence-Number: 5587 Have a problem on a list with valid emails getting rejected. Here user is a list member entry: b###l@th###ai###ll.com, BUT, even though the From address matches, the email is getting rejected: Subject: BOUNCE aaaa_members@ccsl.org: Non-member submission from ["Brian ###l" ] The message DID originate from a foreign MTA (Yahoo in this case), .. but the From is correct: >From admin@ccsl.org Thu Jan 25 14:56:13 2007 Received: from smtp111.sbc.mail.re2.yahoo.com (smtp111.sbc.mail.re2.yahoo.com [68.142.229.94]) by mail.omnitec.net (8.12.8/8.12.8) with SMTP id l0PKtxHB007821 for ; Thu, 25 Jan 2007 14:56:03 -0600 (CST) Received: (qmail 56374 invoked from network); 25 Jan 2007 21:01:01 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO B####5) (b###l@swbell.net@70.237.227.234 with login) by smtp111.sbc.mail.re2.yahoo.com with SMTP; 25 Jan 2007 21:01:01 -0000 X-YMail-OSG: UeS_z4AVM1mSfTsVI7kyllXCsLPJjudgcefZWJyQRyccqsbHjK_gb4aUVeWZlsY_nMlcbVlKwJ08G9U_a.VPPUztrF1t6_IF4q3pNdKQKuvaH5EAixUTh.ppcFBTzt1pi2ZW.Q_fbLl92QMfsAx7LrEJPKRgroNaBz5P4hhVSMM0DWeEp90R.gFD3TlH Received: from 127.0.0.1 (AVG SMTP 7.5.441 [268.17.10/651]); Thu, 25 Jan 2007 15:00:58 -0600 Message-ID: <015801c740c3$e999a730$6301a8c0@B####5> From: "Br### ###l" To: Why is this email getting rejected? Does MD 1.94.5 filter on something other than the From? How can I get MD to allow these valid emails? TIA, Lee From majordomo-users-owner@greatcircle.com Fri Jan 26 13:47:55 2007 X-Original-To: majordomo-users@greatcircle.com Received: from mta3.adelphia.net (mta3.adelphia.net [68.168.78.181]) by mycroft.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0D61E2900B1 for ; Fri, 26 Jan 2007 13:47:53 -0800 (PST) Received: from bob-xp.techniserve.com ([68.169.107.47]) by mta11.adelphia.net (InterMail vM.6.01.05.02 201-2131-123-102-20050715) with ESMTP id <20070126213620.DVCZ5532.mta11.adelphia.net@bob-xp.techniserve.com> for ; Fri, 26 Jan 2007 16:36:20 -0500 Message-Id: <5.1.1.6.2.20070126163504.02107948@127.0.0.1> X-Sender: techniserve.com:110:abbott@127.0.0.1 X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1.1 Date: Fri, 26 Jan 2007 16:36:14 -0500 To: majordomo-users@greatcircle.com From: abbott@techniserve.com Subject: Re: Spurious Rejects? Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" X-Archive-Number: 200701/12 X-Sequence-Number: 5588 ----Original Message---- > > >Why is this email getting rejected? Does MD 1.94.5 filter on something other than the From? How can I get MD to allow these valid emails? Check the Reply-to: address. That is the important one. I have my users use a correct Reply-to: if they are using some other mail service than their actual address. Many times the user doesn't know their real address or has email program programmed with user@mail.###.com which is the same as user@###.com. You can also configure a post-only file and put alternative addresses for your users in that file in same format as the user list. Just add the file name in the restrict-post setting. e.g.: restrict_post = listname listname-digest listname-post-only OR... It may be your own mail server. It rejected my first reply direct to you. Recipient: Reason: : Client host rejected: Access denied Regards, Bob Abbott -------------------------- abbott@techniserve.com http://www.techniserve.com -------------------------- From majordomo-users-owner@greatcircle.com Fri Jan 26 14:01:27 2007 X-Original-To: Majordomo-Users@GreatCircle.COM Received: from mail.sonny.com (mail.sonny.com [70.58.223.141]) by mycroft.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 570BD290099 for ; Fri, 26 Jan 2007 14:01:22 -0800 (PST) Received: from [192.168.1.78] (father.sonny.com [192.168.1.78]) by magnia.sonny.com (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 Patch 1 (built Aug 19 2002)) with ESMTPA id <0JCH00E0GWS9Q0@magnia.sonny.com> for Majordomo-Users@GreatCircle.COM; Fri, 26 Jan 2007 15:52:57 -0600 (CST) Date: Fri, 26 Jan 2007 16:02:56 -0600 From: Daniel Liston Subject: Re: New User Question HTML Mail In-reply-to: To: GregRLevy@aol.com Cc: Majordomo-Users@GreatCircle.COM Message-id: <45BA7A90.60702@sonny.org> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-Accept-Language: en-us, en User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.2) Gecko/20040804 Netscape/7.2 (ax) References: X-Archive-Number: 200701/13 X-Sequence-Number: 5589 Simple, don't do it. Majordomo is designed for text, not HTML. With that said, HTML can be done. BUT, you can not use message fronters or footers if you allow HTML mail. Dan Liston GregRLevy@aol.com wrote: > Hi, > > What is the procedure for sending HTML mail to my subscribers? > > Thanks > Greg > From majordomo-users-owner@greatcircle.com Fri Jan 26 14:18:53 2007 X-Original-To: Majordomo-Users@GreatCircle.COM X-Greylist: delayed 61 seconds by postgrey-1.24 at mycroft; Fri, 26 Jan 2007 14:18:53 PST Received: from hermes.jjbedmonton.com (hermes.jjbedmonton.com [209.148.223.55]) by mycroft.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 04FAE290099 for ; Fri, 26 Jan 2007 14:18:52 -0800 (PST) Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----_=_NextPart_001_01C74197.D141E3C1" X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5 Subject: Windows Port Date: Fri, 26 Jan 2007 15:17:52 -0700 Message-ID: X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: Windows Port Thread-Index: AcdBl9IwkXUdq/oDR2W42eHirMlOaw== From: "Daniel Kaliel" To: X-Archive-Number: 200701/14 X-Sequence-Number: 5590 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------_=_NextPart_001_01C74197.D141E3C1 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I remember reading something quite sometime ago about a port over to the windows platform. I was just curious if that ever happened? ------_=_NextPart_001_01C74197.D141E3C1 Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
I = remember reading=20 something quite sometime ago about a port over to the windows = platform.  I=20 was just curious if that ever = happened?
------_=_NextPart_001_01C74197.D141E3C1-- From majordomo-users-owner@greatcircle.com Fri Jan 26 23:32:13 2007 X-Original-To: majordomo-users@greatcircle.com Received: from moroni.ourldsfamily.com (ourldsfamily.com [198.60.114.90]) by mycroft.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 75BE329003F for ; Fri, 26 Jan 2007 23:32:11 -0800 (PST) Received: from webmail.ourldsfamily.com (moroni0 [172.20.20.2]) by moroni.ourldsfamily.com (8.13.7/8.13.7) with ESMTP id l0R7Dx4h023748; Sat, 27 Jan 2007 00:13:59 -0700 Received: from ourldsfamily.com ([198.60.114.90]) (SquirrelMail authenticated user karlp) by webmail.ourldsfamily.com with HTTP; Sat, 27 Jan 2007 00:14:01 -0700 (MST) Message-ID: <29128.198.60.114.90.1169882041.squirrel@webmail.ourldsfamily.com> In-Reply-To: <45BA7A90.60702@sonny.org> References: <45BA7A90.60702@sonny.org> Date: Sat, 27 Jan 2007 00:14:01 -0700 (MST) Subject: Re: New User Question HTML Mail From: karlp@ourldsfamily.com To: gregrlevy@aol.com Cc: majordomo-users@greatcircle.com User-Agent: SquirrelMail/1.4.7 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Importance: Normal X-Archive-Number: 200701/15 X-Sequence-Number: 5591 On Fri, January 26, 2007 3:02 pm, Daniel Liston wrote: > Simple, don't do it. Majordomo is designed for text, not HTML. > > With that said, HTML can be done. BUT, you can not use message > fronters or footers if you allow HTML mail. Not to mention that if you ever want to use archives, they are essentially useless if you allow HTML/MIME email. DO NOT DO IT... See http://www.efn.no/html-bad.html for more information... Karl > > Dan Liston > > GregRLevy@aol.com wrote: >> Hi, >> >> What is the procedure for sending HTML mail to my subscribers? >> >> Thanks >> Greg >> > -- karl _/ _/ _/ _/_/_/ ____________ __o _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ ____________ _-\<._ _/_/ _/ _/_/_/ (_)/ (_) _/ _/ _/ _/ ...................... _/ _/ arl _/_/_/ _/ earson KarlP@ourldsfamily.com --- Senior Consulting Sys/DB Analyst http://consulting.ourldsfamily.com --- My Thoughts on Terrorism In America right after 9/11/2001: http://www.ourldsfamily.com/wtc.shtml --- The world is a dangerous place to live... not because of the people who are evil, but because of the people who don't do anything about it. - Albert Einstein --- From majordomo-users-owner@greatcircle.com Tue Jan 30 06:29:57 2007 X-Original-To: majordomo-users@greatcircle.com Received: from filbert.sgt-inc.com (filbert.sgt-inc.com [63.75.83.2]) by mycroft.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 175CB21BD62 for ; Tue, 30 Jan 2007 06:29:51 -0800 (PST) Received: from [192.168.137.52] (router.sgt-inc.com [63.75.83.1] (may be forged)) by filbert.sgt-inc.com (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id l0UETdoS021036 for ; Tue, 30 Jan 2007 09:29:44 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from bguion@sgt-inc.com) Mime-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: Date: Tue, 30 Jan 2007 09:29:36 -0500 To: majordomo-users@greatcircle.com From: Bill Guion Subject: Subscribing by email Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" X-Archive-Number: 200701/16 X-Sequence-Number: 5592 Typically we manage our mail lists by direct editing. A typcial record in a file looks like: ^tfirst_name last_name (^t is a tab which I represent here since you can't see a tab.) We do this because some people don't use easily recognizable names for their email address. It is rare, but some look like bill3425@something.com. Should I need to do something for Bill Smith, I may not recognize bill3425 as his email address. But, I can search for Bill and find his record if I have his full name in the record. And, majordomo uses this just fine. Now I have a need for another individual to maintain a few of the lists, and the easiest way for him to do this is be email. Email message to majordomo@domain.com, contents of approve password zubscribe test ^tBill Guion. The zubscribe works just fine, but only the email address (bguion@comcast.net, no <>'s) gets appended to the file. Is there a way to subscribe by email and get the format I want in the file? -----===== Bill Guion =====----- From majordomo-users-owner@greatcircle.com Tue Jan 30 11:16:04 2007 X-Original-To: majordomo-users@greatcircle.com Received: from mail.sonny.com (mail.sonny.com [70.58.223.141]) by mycroft.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id BADC0290155 for ; Tue, 30 Jan 2007 11:16:03 -0800 (PST) Received: from [192.168.1.78] (father.sonny.com [192.168.1.78]) by magnia.sonny.com (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 Patch 1 (built Aug 19 2002)) with ESMTPA id <0JCP001053QLRD@magnia.sonny.com> for majordomo-users@greatcircle.com; Tue, 30 Jan 2007 13:06:21 -0600 (CST) Date: Tue, 30 Jan 2007 13:17:47 -0600 From: Daniel Liston Subject: Re: Subscribing by email In-reply-to: To: Bill Guion Cc: majordomo-users@greatcircle.com Message-id: <45BF99DB.2040509@sonny.org> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-Accept-Language: en-us, en User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.2) Gecko/20040804 Netscape/7.2 (ax) References: X-Archive-Number: 200701/17 X-Sequence-Number: 5593 Quoting from the majordomo FAQ: > 4.1 - Address with blanks are being treated separately > If a subscriber to the list is > John Doe > > it gets treated these as the three addresses: > John > Doe > > > [From Alan Millar] > Majordomo does not treat these as three addresses. Apparently your mailer does. > > Remember that all Majordomo does is add and remove addresses from a list. Majordomo does not interpret the contents of the list for message distribution; the system mailer (such as sendmail) does. > > I'm using SMail3 instead of sendmail, and it has an alternative (read "stupid") view of how mixed angle-bracketed and non-angle-bracketed addresses should be interpreted. I found that putting a comma at the end of each line was effective to fix the problem, and I got to keep my comments. So I patched Majordomo to add the comma at the end of each address it writes to the list file. > > You can also change to "strip = yes" in the config file so that none of the addresses are angle-bracketed. In your case, you would want "strip = no" in your mailing list's config file to keep comments (real names) in your distribution membership file. Be warned however, if users subscribe themselves to a list with sripping turned off, you can end up with a very messy looking membership file. Allowed formats include; logonID@internet.domain "first last"@dom.ain (last,first) (common name) Dan Liston "Dan (don't delete me) Liston" I have not checked RFC2822 in awhile, but this is probably valid too; "first (nickname) last" (another comment) Dan Liston Bill Guion wrote: > Typically we manage our mail lists by direct editing. A typcial record > in a file looks like: > ^tfirst_name last_name (^t is a tab which I represent > here since you can't see a tab.) > > We do this because some people don't use easily recognizable names for > their email address. It is rare, but some look like > bill3425@something.com. Should I need to do something for Bill Smith, I > may not recognize bill3425 as his email address. But, I can search for > Bill and find his record if I have his full name in the record. And, > majordomo uses this just fine. > > Now I have a need for another individual to maintain a few of the lists, > and the easiest way for him to do this is be email. Email message to > majordomo@domain.com, contents of > approve password zubscribe test ^tBill Guion. The > zubscribe works just fine, but only the email address > (bguion@comcast.net, no <>'s) gets appended to the file. > > Is there a way to subscribe by email and get the format I want in the file? > > -----===== Bill Guion =====----- From majordomo-users-owner@greatcircle.com Tue Jan 30 13:26:48 2007 X-Original-To: majordomo-users@greatcircle.com Received: from hoefnix.telenet-ops.be (hoefnix.telenet-ops.be [195.130.132.54]) by mycroft.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 551282900F3 for ; Tue, 30 Jan 2007 13:26:47 -0800 (PST) Received: from adicia.telenet-ops.be (adicia.telenet-ops.be [195.130.132.56]) by hoefnix.telenet-ops.be (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1F052A878D for ; Tue, 30 Jan 2007 22:14:19 +0100 (CET) Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by adicia.telenet-ops.be (Postfix) with SMTP id 2BE7C2300D4 for ; Tue, 30 Jan 2007 22:14:16 +0100 (CET) Received: from [192.168.2.3] (d51A502F2.access.telenet.be [81.165.2.242]) by adicia.telenet-ops.be (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0E08423014F for ; Tue, 30 Jan 2007 22:14:15 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <45BFB52A.8020509@pandora.be> Date: Tue, 30 Jan 2007 22:14:18 +0100 From: Jurgen Gaeremyn User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.9 (Windows/20061207) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: majordomo-users@greatcircle.com Subject: Majordomo in other languages... Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Archive-Number: 200701/18 X-Sequence-Number: 5594 Hi, I'm running a project where a vast majority of my audience doesn't speak English. For this reason, we decided to start up our own server with a mailing list we could configure ourselves... Is there anyone here who could tell me what files I would have to edit to translate the most common (or even all) dialogs? Thanks in advance, Jurgen.