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Subject: Re: Commercial Posts - What To Do?
From: "Lawrence S Rosenberg, Esq." <lawrose @ valleylaw . com>
Date: Tue, 30 Apr 1996 22:03:32 -0700
To: Jonathon Blake <grafolog @ netcom . com>, Kynn Bartlett <kynn @ idyllmtn . com>
Cc: Dale Chatham <dale @ ross . com>, majordomo-users @ GreatCircle . COM

At 03:41 AM 5/1/96 +0000, Jonathon Blake wrote:
>
>
>On Tue, 30 Apr 1996, Kynn Bartlett wrote:
>
>> This is a really bad idea.  Why?  Because I've found that AOL, in particular,
>> are _very_ good about yanking accounts immediately.  The AOL admins who
>
>	My milage varies considerably.  
>
>> What more could you possibly want them to do?  Have you ever dealt with
>> abuse@aol.com?  I get the feeling that you probably have not.
>
>	When I've sent complaints to abuse@aol.com, it is has bounced 
>	back to me as
>	#1:	user unknown
>	#2:	I'm not a subscriber to the mailing list / abuse
>	#3:	mailbox full
>
>
>	So i send complaints to all of the following at aol.
>	root
>	postmaster
>	toslnet1
>	toslnet2
>	support
>	the spammer 
>
>	Generally speaking, that seems to have the desired effect.
>	The spammer loses his account.  
>
>        xan
>
>        jonathon
>        grafolog@netcom.com

        One More -
        Since the latest spams are all about *this* "company," has anyone
inquired of the U.S. Postal Service as to whether this can be handled as a
misuse of a post office box?

        
                                         Magazine Club Inquiry Center
                                         Att. FREE Catalogue-by-email Dept.
                                         PO Box 990
                                         Staten Island NY  10312-0990

        This is where the fax-impaired are supposed to send the form in the
spam via U.S. Postal Mail.  We have all kinds of rules on Postal Mail, and
I'm not looking for any more rules on the Internet, but ... perhaps this can
be brought to the attention of the snail mail authorities.  IMO, this *is*
misuse of a post office box ... taxpayer's money and all that, and I don't
for one minute think that this company is some innocent being caught up in
this spam.  I think a fish stinks from the head down and I think this
company is paying for professional spamming, which, right now, just happens
to be easiest to accomplish from AOL.

        I'm in California.  I think those of us in or near Staten Island,
NYC, could get this going with a simple phone call.  I would have to
actually write a postal letter and send it same day air.  :-)

        Gawd ... has anyone bothered to read this specimen, I mean all of
it?  It's what *I* call obscene, or at least it makes me sick.  

Viz.
..............................
"Please do not email me as I am just a happy customer and a *busy* student.  I
don't have time to even complete my thesis in time, let alone run my
part-time software business!  Please fill out the above form and carefully
follow the intructions above to get it to them via fax or smail."
..............................

        If you have read it you know it gets even better, but to invoke the
honor of being a student as a ruse to leave the sending account alone is ...
well, to me it's below the belt.  (Particularly when sending to this busy
student results in a 550 "User Unknown" error. :-)

        So, anyone in the NYC area feel this is worth a local call to the
U.S. Postal authorities or should us lawyer types start writing letters from
California?  ;)

        Onward, I hope everyone is having a good week and I apologize for
quoting from so much of the spam.  I think everyone here probably has it
memorized by now ... but, just in case anyone joined the party late.

My Very Best,
Lawrence S Rosenberg, Esq.
For the Rosenberg Law Offices &
ValleyLaw - ValleyLaw-Digest
Queued to send - From Los Angeles, California, USA  [PDT]
April 30, 1996
10:02 pm

http://www.valleylaw.com  *  http://www.primenet.com/~lawrose/
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