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Subject: Re: Is it impossible to moderate a list?
From: Noah White <noah @ baysystems . com>
Organization: Bay Systems
Date: Tue, 24 Sep 1996 17:50:32 -0400
To: Dave Wolfe <david_wolfe @ risc . sps . mot . com>
Cc: majordomo-users @ GreatCircle . COM
References: <199609242035.PAA02793@miaow.sps.mot.com>

Dave Wolfe wrote:
> 
> [ Noah White writes: ]
> >
> > I'm trying to set up a list from which only certain people can post
> > to.  I set it up such that in the config file it looks for a file to get
> > a list of authorized addresses.  In doing so I noticed that X-Sender
> > gets tacked on to the headers and that anyone with Netscape can forge
> > this address nullifying any protection this gives.
> 
> Resend doesn't pay any attention to X-Sender.
> 
> > So I decided to use the approval header as a further protection.
> > This works but I've come across a broader flaw in that in the Recieved
> > header shows what the outgoing alias is.  Anyone who wishes to post to
> > the list could bypass the resend alias and go directly to the outgoing
> > aliases (which as I said it posted in the Recieved header). Thus
> > bypassing all checks.
> 
> Note that if you put the Approval header in the body and don't provide a
> subsequent To header (in the body, separated from the real body by a
> blank line) you'll get Apparently-To headers. Stick with restrict_post.
> 
> > Is there any whay to protect from this?
> 
> [ This is a canned message ]
> 
> Here's how you hide your actual mail list alias from list spammers:
Thanks for the info but I think this still does not solve the problems 
of the Received header showing what the outgoing list alias name is.


> 4.  In the parameter file, specify more recipients than just the
>     outgoing list alias, e.g.:
> 
>         -l testlist
>         -h foo.bar.com
>         testlist-uzpl,nobody

For instance the above would still produce a header which contained:

Received:(from majordom@localhost) by myhost.com (8.7.5/8.7.3) id 		
OAA08794 for testlist-uzpl; Tue, 24 Sep 1996 14:31:05-0400 (EDT)

Thus exposing the alias and allowing someone to directly mail it.

-Noah


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