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Subject: Re: Reply-To
From: BWhitloc @ micro . honeywell . com (Whitlock, Brad)
Date: Thu, 05 Dec 1996 11:07:55 GMT
To: Majordomo-Users @ GreatCircle . COM (Majordomo-Users)


Rich Pieri and Jason Tibbits wrote:

> JLT> The risks?  You annoy everyone with real software and you don't gain
> JLT> anything for anyone.  Read
> http://www.unicom.com/FAQ/reply-to-harmful.html
> JLT> for more information.
>
> your users get to learn
> how to use their mail programs.  If you do use reply_to, the ignorant
> users remain ignorant

As someone who's been there and since then seen the light, I found these 
kinds of responses less than helpful.  I (and everyone else asking about 
this, I bet) had a goal to make life simpler for my users, to make it easy 
to send replies back to the list.  Reply-to seemed a good way to do that. 
 Instead of actually EXPLAINING the right way to achieve my goal, however, I 
got only two types of responses (exemplified above, commented on below):

  1.   "use REAL software".  Many of my users are forced to use Microsoft 
Mail.  I *know* we don't have real software, but that's not going to change. 
 (Corporate standards and mandates.)  So my belief that Reply-to is the only 
way to achieve my goal is only reinforced.  From the private correspondence 
I had, it appeared that this REAL software that people are using has a 
"Reply To List" button on it.  MS Mail doesn't, neither does PINE, so again, 
all you're doing is convincing me that I really DO need to set the Reply-To 
header.

2.  "You're an ignorant user who shouldn't even be writing with sharp 
instruments like a pencil, much less using e-mail.  Good luck learning, 
because *I'M* not about to give you a clue."  Yes, I'll gladly admit it was 
a real DUH moment when I realized that a simple way to do this without 
setting a Reply-To header is (everyone listen carefully):

     Use "Reply To All" to send public replies to the list.  Messages from 
the list will show as coming From: the submitter and To: the list, so "Reply 
To All" will send e-mail back to the list as well as the original sender. 
 If you want to be considerate, also remove the name of the original sender 
from the To: list so they don't get two copies.

If instead of railing about how lame it is to use Reply-To, this tip was 
added to the FAQ and the Reply-To Considered Harmful page, people may be 
spared a lot of embarrasment and abuse.  I'm not exactly an e-mail novice, 
but for some reason this simple connection didn't click until some time 
later.  I'd hate to think that disqualifies me from productive society.

  -- Brad Whitlock




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