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Subject: Re: How "secure" are moderated lists?
From: Dave Wolfe <dwolfe @ risc . sps . mot . com>
Date: Fri, 7 Feb 1997 08:54:26 -0600 (CST)
To: a . fathers @ uws . edu . au (Tony Fathers)
Cc: majordomo-users @ GreatCircle . COM
In-reply-to: <3.0.1.16.19970207100522.32377ce0@hotel.uws.edu.au> from "Tony Fathers" at Feb 7, 97 10:05:22 am
Reply-to: Dave Wolfe <david_wolfe @ risc . sps . mot . com>

[ Tony Fathers writes: ]
> 
> I ran a little test to see if it was possible to bypass the moderation for
> a list.  It was.  How?  Easy.
[...]
> Does this mean we are doing something wrong?  Is there really a big hole
> here?  Does 1.94.1 overcome the problem?

Probably the best way is to do away with the "outgoing" alias altogether
by using Jason's TLB, but here's the traditional way:

[ This is canned message hide Sun Sep 24 15:32:30 CDT 1995 ]

Here's how you hide your actual mail list alias from list spammers:

1.  Pick a non-obvious outgoing list alias name, e.g. "testlist-uzpl"
    instead of "testlist-outgoing".

2.  Turn off EXPN and VRFY in sendmail.cf (Opnoexpn,novrfy).

3.  Use a parameter file for resend parameters:

	testlist: "|/.../wrapper resend @/.../testlist.parms"

4.  In the parameter file, specify more recipients than just the
    outgoing list alias, e.g.:

	-l testlist
	-h foo.bar.com
	testlist-uzpl,nobody

    (Don't forget to alias "nobody" to /dev/null.)

5.  Don't allow any more file permissions than absolutely necessary on
    any of the Mj files and/or don't allow user logons on the Mj server
    machine and don't export the file system where the Mj files live.
    I.e., is it *really* necessary to have world read permissions on
    anything but the subscriber list file itself? I get along fine with
    0660 on all the list.* files and 0664 on the list files.

-- 
 Dave Wolfe


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