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Subject: Re: Pulling the plug -- ways it can be done
From: Clyde Meli <cmeli @ cis . um . edu . mt>
Date: Fri, 9 May 1997 11:27:19 +0200 (MET DST)
To: Mark Rauterkus <mrauterkus @ sportsurf . net>, <majordomo-users @ GreatCircle . COM>
In-reply-to: Mark Rauterkus's message of Fri, 9 May 97 02:11:52 -0000
Organisation: University of Malta

> Hi,
> 
> I'm fearful about going live with the list so, --- what are some 
> sure-fire ways to pull the plug on the list and play it SUPER SAFE, end 
> mail-loops, flame-wars, etc? What do the pro's do?

I had to switch a list to moderated mode when some of the subscribers (five)
started acting like little criminals, claiming the list was a democracy and
lots of rubbish like that, general misbehaviour, calling me a nazi for 
unsubscribing a user who had violated my rules. My rules allow 
my posting of administration messages (I like to call these administrivia :) 
like majordomo does something else!) on the list, and there was a user who
started complaining on the list that I (the listowner) was being off-topic,
when in fact according to my own list's rules I was allowed to the posts.
It's as if a guest to your house starts complaining to something you are doing
to your own house ! 
So I had to kick him off and the other four started to support him and calling
me and everyone who supported me a nazi, general foul and filthy language ensued
from these guys. They eventually got banned from my majordomo and from some
other majordomos/listservs elsewhere.

> 
> By pulling the plug, I'd like to allow for subscription requests to 
> continue - so mail sent to majordomo@domain.com should stay active. Might 
> be nice to allow for other commands about the list info, which, info, 
> etc. But, I want to be sure that no mail would go to the list(s).
> 
> My newbie guess says one option is to go to the alais file and comment 
> out the list with
> # as the first character of each line.
> 
> At the same time I would put a new alias into the top of the alias file 
> and and reflect all list mail to the list owner too -- while the # 
> comments are in place later in the file.
> 
> Is that it? Mess with alias file and make mail with list address go to 
> list-owner and all coments to list with #s. ??
> 
> When this is up and running as it should be, I should be able to send in 
> a MODERATE mode with a new list config file, but I've got a ways to go 
> before then... 
> 
> ----
> I saw an older thread in the searchable archives -- but the reasons in my 
> case are different:
> 
> At 9:55 5/30/95, RS wrote:
> >Is there any way to temporarily suspend the operation of a Majordomo
> >system --- subscription, mailing list activity et al --- but not have
> >the messages bounce or disappear?
> 
> So long as you are running an SMTP Server, all messages addressed to
> Majordomo will be accepted and queued until it comes back up. If there is
> no SMTP server running, then the mail will sit on the sender's Server
> waiting for your Server to come back up. If you're only down for a day or
> 2, nothing should get lost (just delayed).
> 
> -----
> 
> Thanks.
> 
> 
> 
> --------------
> Mark Rauterkus, Publisher, S.S.S.
> 
> mrauterkus@sportsurf.net
> --------------
> 
> 

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