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Subject: Re: majordomo.com
From: Rivermoon <rivrmoon @ drizzle . com>
Date: Sun, 1 Jun 97 16:26:26 -0800
To: <majordomo-users @ GreatCircle . COM>

On 6/1/97 1:12 PM, Christopher Knight (christopher.knight@sparknet.net) 
wrote:

>1.I have no intention to trademark MAJORDOMO, nor will I.
>
You would get in serious legal trouble if you did.  In fact, if the 
people at Great Circle wanted to take action, you could get into serious 
legal trouble *right now*.

>2.I have no intention to muddy the waters, nor destroy the great
>contribution to society majordomo has delivered.
>
But you already *have* muddied them.  It will only be more confusing to 
unsuspecting users than it is *now* if the creators of Majordomo "share" 
that name with you, when it really belongs to them.  I keep hearing the 
words "bait and switch" in my mind...

>3.I have no intention to market a commercial product under the Majordomo
>name, nor will I.

Ahem.  Go look at your web site.  "A Majordomo dealer?"  Yes, it's still 
on your page.  Get a load of this email address: "ceo@majordomo.com?"  
This is egregious.
Much of the "content" on your site suggests you have the rights to and 
created Majordomo, as has been pointed out by others.  Using an email 
address like the one above clearly suggests that not only do you own the 
name but that you own a company called "Majordomo."  You are deceiving 
people to benefit yourself.  It's too late to make statement #3.  You 
buried the truth three levels deep, and you know many people aren't going 
to even look at that because they *already assume* that you own the name 
and the software, because you are using that domain name.  

>4.  An opportunist, and entrapeneur, Yes...I guess I am.  But did you also
>recall that I have opened my arms to the Majordomo community to use the
>domain/website to extend the Majordomo efforts, upon Brent's request.   Do
>you understand what I am saying, Kent?  I am saying I want to SHARE the
>opportunity, so lets lose the badgering, and get down to HOW this
>opportunity can benefit more folks!...:-

Forgive my cynicism, but this seems akin to one person writing a 
manuscript, another person stealing and taking credit for it, and then 
after much written pressure, offering to "share" writing credit with the 
original and sole author of the work.  This approach is a few bricks 
short.  You simply don't have the right to use that name.  Your good 
intentions seem to be trailing far behind your willingness to trample 
other people's hard work to make a buck for yourself, and as such your 
intentions have little credibility.

There is one legitimate solution to this issue, and that is to give the 
name to the people who have the right to use it.  Others have been 
successfully sued for what you are now doing, Mr. Knight.  

In addition, I guarantee you have wasted many, many people's time who 
have stopped at your web site looking for the real Majordomo site.  You 
and I both know that every person who does a search for the official site 
is going to find yours *first* which is that many more people you've been 
able to advertise to, and that many more people who are unclear about the 
relationship you *don't* have with Great Circle.  You and everyone on 
this list knows what's going on here, and there's no way you can talk 
yourself out of it.  You cannot *share* with your victims what you have 
*stolen* from them.







Kirsten O.
rivrmoon@drizzle.com

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