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Subject: Re: Reply To
From: Knotwork Admin <root @ knotwork . com>
Date: Mon, 2 Jun 1997 21:27:37 -0300 (ADT)
To: majordomo-users @ GreatCircle . COM
In-reply-to: <199706022322.SAA01969@Mars.mcs.net>


On Mon, 2 Jun 1997, Leslie Mikesell wrote:
> I don't see any requirement there that the author has to hand-type
> this header himself instead of letting the submission software do
> it for him.  What is the purpose of mailing list software if not
> to manage these details for us?  That's the silly semantics issue.
> If majordomo isn't an extension of 'my' user agent, why not, and
> why do you think I am sending through it? 

YOUR user-agent's job is to enmable YOU to make choices about YOUR
postings and enable YOU to manipulate them.

If majordomo were YOUR agent then yes it would be majordomo's job to
provide YOU the subscriber with control over what to put in the Reply-To
header.

Majordomo fails to provide you the user with the choice if it arbitrarily
forces its owner's decision instead of yours. It is acting as the List
Owner's Agent in that case, not the submitting user's agent.

It is the job of the submitting user's agent to provide the submitting
user with control over the originator-headers. Majordomo only gives the
submitting user such control if it refrains from changing the Reply-To
header itself; for that way it does indeed act on behalf of the submitting
user, honouring the submitting user's decision as to whatr content, if
any, the Reply-To header is to have.

An "agent" that does not include a means by which you can set or unset
your originator headers the way that you desire is not really YOUR agent,
it is someone else's.

So in this respect Majordomo is an extension of the MUA if and when it
allows the MUA's selected Reply-To to stand, and an agent of some other
party if and when it overrides the MUA's selected Reply-To header content.

Blessed Be. -MarkM-

> On all the messages I compose and submit to a list, I wish to have
> a Reply-To: inserted for me to direct messages back to the list.
> It is entirely irrelevant to me where this happens.  My user agent

...doesnt handle it easily. Fine. Some user agents are less capable than
others. If your user-agent does not easily do things that you frequently
want or need to do, that is a sure sign that you are outgrowing your user
agent and should be miliating for a new improved version.

Majordomo is ALREADY acting as an extension of your MUA by GIVING TO YOU
to the choice of what your Reply-To header should say. If you wish it
automatically set then perhaps the new majordomo should store in its
per-subscriber database eachjsubscriber's Reply-To address. it probably
makes sense anyway that a subsriber should be able to have at least two
addresses, the one that posts FROM are assumed to be from them and the one
that any posts TO them should be sent. So Majordomo-][ may already be well
on its way to solving this by taking on even more of the MUA function.

Blessed Be. -MarkM-

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