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Subject: approval problems
From: "Sanford E. Walke IV" <sewiv @ izzy . net>
Date: Tue, 3 Jun 1997 12:03:00 -0400 (EDT)
To: majordomo-users @ greatcircle . com



Okay, it was suggested that I post verbatim results, to try to figure 
out what I'm doing wrong.  Here's the first approval bounce message, 
totally normal.

(Note:  I'm running 1.93 on Solaris 2.3 with sendmail 8.8.5 and perl 5.003.)

>From owner-chim-members@chim.org
Date: Tue, 3 Jun 1997 10:48:59 -0400 (EDT)
From: owner-chim-members@chim.org
To: owner-chim-members@chim.org
Subject: BOUNCE chim-members@chim.org: Approval required

>From chim-members-owner  Tue Jun  3 10:48:51 1997
Received: (from portia@localhost) by izzy4.izzy.net (8.8.5/8.6.9) id KAA10314; Tue, 3 Jun 1997 10:48:50 -0400 (EDT)
Date: Tue, 3 Jun 1997 10:48:47 -0400 (EDT)
From: "Portia A. Testuser" <portia@izzy.net>
X-Sender: portia@izzy4
To: chim-members@chim.org
Subject: test
Message-ID: <Pine.SUN.3.90.970603104831.10260A-100000@izzy4>
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII

portia test

------end-------

Here's how I replied, straight out of the FAQ:

>From sewiv@izzy.net
Date: Tue, 3 Jun 1997 11:35:13 -0400 (EDT)
From: "Sanford E. Walke IV" <sewiv@izzy.net>
To: chim-members@chim.org
Subject: BOUNCE chim-members@chim.org: Approval required (fwd)


Approved: xxxxxx

>From chim-members-owner  Tue Jun  3 10:48:51 1997
Received: (from portia@localhost) by izzy4.izzy.net (8.8.5/8.6.9) id KAA10314; Tue, 3 Jun 1997 10:48:50 -0400 (EDT)
Date: Tue, 3 Jun 1997 10:48:47 -0400 (EDT)
From: "Portia A. Testuser" <portia@izzy.net>
X-Sender: portia@izzy4
To: chim-members@chim.org
Subject: test
Message-ID: <Pine.SUN.3.90.970603104831.10260A-100000@izzy4>
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII

portia test

------end-------

Here's the response I got to that approval:

>From owner-chim-members@chim.org
Date: Tue, 3 Jun 1997 11:35:24 -0400 (EDT)
From: owner-chim-members@chim.org
To: owner-chim-members@chim.org
Subject: BOUNCE chim-members@chim.org: Approval required

>From chim-members-owner  Tue Jun  3 11:35:15 1997
Received: from izzy5.izzy.net (izzy5.izzy.net [198.108.102.9]) by izzy4.izzy.net (8.8.5/8.6.9) with ESMTP id LAA13283 for <chim-members@chim.org>; Tue, 3 Jun 1997 11:35:14 -0400 (EDT)
Received: (from sewiv@localhost) by izzy5.izzy.net (8.8.5/8.6.9) id LAA22735; Tue, 3 Jun 1997 11:35:13 -0400 (EDT)
Date: Tue, 3 Jun 1997 11:35:13 -0400 (EDT)
From: "Sanford E. Walke IV" <sewiv@izzy.net>
To: chim-members@chim.org
Subject: BOUNCE chim-members@chim.org: Approval required (fwd)
Message-ID: <Pine.SUN.3.90.970603113454.22078G-100000@izzy5.izzy.net>
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII


Approved: xxxxxx

>From chim-members-owner  Tue Jun  3 10:48:51 1997
Received: (from portia@localhost) by izzy4.izzy.net (8.8.5/8.6.9) id KAA10314; Tue, 3 Jun 1997 10:48:50 -0400 (EDT)
Date: Tue, 3 Jun 1997 10:48:47 -0400 (EDT)
From: "Portia A. Testuser" <portia@izzy.net>
X-Sender: portia@izzy4
To: chim-members@chim.org
Subject: test
Message-ID: <Pine.SUN.3.90.970603104831.10260A-100000@izzy4>
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII

portia test

------end-------

Someone suggested leaving out the line between the approve and the headers,
and someone else suggested using approve instead of Approved:.  Here's
that one:

>From sewiv@izzy.net
Date: Tue, 3 Jun 1997 11:34:11 -0400 (EDT)
From: "Sanford E. Walke IV" <sewiv@izzy.net>
To: chim-members@chim.org
Subject: BOUNCE chim-members@chim.org: Approval required (fwd)


approve xxxxxx
>From chim-members-owner  Tue Jun  3 10:48:51 1997
Received: (from portia@localhost) by izzy4.izzy.net (8.8.5/8.6.9) id KAA10314; Tue, 3 Jun 1997 10:48:50 -0400 (EDT)
Date: Tue, 3 Jun 1997 10:48:47 -0400 (EDT)
From: "Portia A. Testuser" <portia@izzy.net>
X-Sender: portia@izzy4
To: chim-members@chim.org
Subject: test
Message-ID: <Pine.SUN.3.90.970603104831.10260A-100000@izzy4>
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII

portia test

------end-------

And here's the answer I got (note that it's an Admin request now):

>From owner-chim-members@chim.org
Date: Tue, 3 Jun 1997 11:34:26 -0400 (EDT)
From: owner-chim-members@chim.org
To: owner-chim-members@chim.org
Subject: BOUNCE chim-members@chim.org: Admin request

>From chim-members-owner  Tue Jun  3 11:34:13 1997
Received: from izzy5.izzy.net (izzy5.izzy.net [198.108.102.9]) by izzy4.izzy.net (8.8.5/8.6.9) with ESMTP id LAA13226 for <chim-members@chim.org>; Tue, 3 Jun 1997 11:34:12 -0400 (EDT)
Received: (from sewiv@localhost) by izzy5.izzy.net (8.8.5/8.6.9) id LAA22673; Tue, 3 Jun 1997 11:34:11 -0400 (EDT)
Date: Tue, 3 Jun 1997 11:34:11 -0400 (EDT)
From: "Sanford E. Walke IV" <sewiv@izzy.net>
To: chim-members@chim.org
Subject: BOUNCE chim-members@chim.org: Approval required (fwd)
Message-ID: <Pine.SUN.3.90.970603113352.22078F-100000@izzy5.izzy.net>
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII


approve xxxxxx
>From chim-members-owner  Tue Jun  3 10:48:51 1997
Received: (from portia@localhost) by izzy4.izzy.net (8.8.5/8.6.9) id KAA10314; Tue, 3 Jun 1997 10:48:50 -0400 (EDT)
Date: Tue, 3 Jun 1997 10:48:47 -0400 (EDT)
From: "Portia A. Testuser" <portia@izzy.net>
X-Sender: portia@izzy4
To: chim-members@chim.org
Subject: test
Message-ID: <Pine.SUN.3.90.970603104831.10260A-100000@izzy4>
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII

portia test

------end-------

Someone said that the password had to be in the password file, not the
config file, and that's how I did the above messages.  Then I tried 
the following, because that's what the approve_passwd line was set
to in the config file, and maybe that was the actual password (this 
isn't clear from the FAQ or the comments in the config file).

>From sewiv@izzy.net
Date: Tue, 3 Jun 1997 11:38:46 -0400 (EDT)
From: "Sanford E. Walke IV" <sewiv@izzy.net>
To: chim-members@chim.org
Subject: BOUNCE chim-members@chim.org: Approval required (fwd)


Approved: chim-members.passwd

>From chim-members-owner  Tue Jun  3 10:48:51 1997
Received: (from portia@localhost) by izzy4.izzy.net (8.8.5/8.6.9) id KAA10314; Tue, 3 Jun 1997 10:48:50 -0400 (EDT)
Date: Tue, 3 Jun 1997 10:48:47 -0400 (EDT)
From: "Portia A. Testuser" <portia@izzy.net>
X-Sender: portia@izzy4
To: chim-members@chim.org
Subject: test
Message-ID: <Pine.SUN.3.90.970603104831.10260A-100000@izzy4>
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII

portia test

------end-------

And here's what I got.  Still nothing working.

>From owner-chim-members@chim.org
Date: Tue, 3 Jun 1997 11:38:54 -0400 (EDT)
From: owner-chim-members@chim.org
To: owner-chim-members@chim.org
Subject: BOUNCE chim-members@chim.org: Approval required

>From chim-members-owner  Tue Jun  3 11:38:48 1997
Received: from izzy5.izzy.net (izzy5.izzy.net [198.108.102.9]) by izzy4.izzy.net (8.8.5/8.6.9) with ESMTP id LAA13417 for <chim-members@chim.org>; Tue, 3 Jun 1997 11:38:47 -0400 (EDT)
Received: (from sewiv@localhost) by izzy5.izzy.net (8.8.5/8.6.9) id LAA22786; Tue, 3 Jun 1997 11:38:46 -0400 (EDT)
Date: Tue, 3 Jun 1997 11:38:46 -0400 (EDT)
From: "Sanford E. Walke IV" <sewiv@izzy.net>
To: chim-members@chim.org
Subject: BOUNCE chim-members@chim.org: Approval required (fwd)
Message-ID: <Pine.SUN.3.90.970603113826.22078I-100000@izzy5.izzy.net>
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII


Approved: chim-members.passwd

>From chim-members-owner  Tue Jun  3 10:48:51 1997
Received: (from portia@localhost) by izzy4.izzy.net (8.8.5/8.6.9) id KAA10314; Tue, 3 Jun 1997 10:48:50 -0400 (EDT)
Date: Tue, 3 Jun 1997 10:48:47 -0400 (EDT)
From: "Portia A. Testuser" <portia@izzy.net>
X-Sender: portia@izzy4
To: chim-members@chim.org
Subject: test
Message-ID: <Pine.SUN.3.90.970603104831.10260A-100000@izzy4>
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII

portia test

------end-------

If I use approve instead of Approved:, I get Admin request bounces.  If I
use Approved:, with or without blank lines between it and the body, I 
get Approval bounces.  If I use the password from the password file, I
get Approval bounces.  If I use the actual literal setting of the approve_
passwd field in the config file, I get Approval bounces.  Nothing seems
to work.  What am I doing wrong?

Sandy                                                   sewiv@izzy.net
Honesty is paramount to me.  Lying to me to avoid hurting me never works.
Being lied to always causes me more pain than the truth ever could.
I don't speak for anyone but myself, and sometimes not even that.



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