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Subject: Re: Cost of mailing lists?
From: (John Sechrest) <sechrest @ peak . org>
Date: Sat, 21 Jun 1997 10:50:15 -0700
To: Mitchell Leben <mitch @ leben . com>
Cc: Majordomo-Users @ greatcircle . com
In-reply-to: Your message of Sat, 21 Jun 1997 12:25:33 CDT. <Pine.LNX.3.95.970621122020.32111D-100000@spock.leben.com>

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Mitchell Leben <mitch@leben.com> writes:

 % On Sat, 21 Jun 1997 sechrest@peak.org wrote:
 % > 	I am not sure this is entirely fair. We are a local ISP and 
 % > 	Education Center. We provide email lists for our customers
 % > 	as a part of them getting accounts. (IE they are free
 % > 	to members) The caveat is that if the list becomes a problem,
 % > 	then we reserve the right to ask for funds to buy a new
 % > 	machine, or to close the list down.

 % Can you elaborate on what is not "entirely fair?" Charging for lists?
 % Asking what others charge?

	I am sorry, I was not clear.
	
	I don't think it is fair to say you can't go to local ISP's.
	Many Local ISP's do provide Majordomo support.


 % <snip>
 % > 	We charge $10/month for non-members to have lists. But 
 % > 	since it is cheaper to get an account than to get a list,
 % > 	we have never sold any of these.

 % I have encountered one other ISP that includes mailing lists services as
 % part of the account. Most do not, since most customers do not need list
 % services. Your customers are "paying" for their lists whether they realize
 % it or not. I prefer to charge on a per-list basis, instead of spreading
 % the cost of hosting mailing lists to all of my clients.

	I see it differently. I need to have the majorodomo
	lists anyway for work related to what the ISP is doing.
	
	It is low cost to me to provide it to my customers. 
	And so I can offer this as a benifit of membership,
	without substantial costs to my company.
	
	If a list takes lots of staff time, or machine time,
	then we need to start talking about covering that cost.
	
	But for my average list, I spend about 5 minutes on it.
	And then I don't hear about it for a year or two.
	
	My biggest problem is with members who are essentially 
	clue-less about mailing lists , who need lots of 
	hand-holding. It is not the per-list price that makes sense
	to me, but the per-hour handholding...
	
	
	

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   PEAK -               .           computers and the Internet
Public Electronic         .            more effectively
Access to Knowledge,Inc       .                      
850 SW 15th Street              .            Internet: sechrest@peak.org
Corvallis Oregon 97331               .                  (541) 754-7325
                                            . http://www.peak.org/~sechrest


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