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Subject: simple filter front end to Majordomo sendmail alias
From: "A. Lester Buck III" <buck @ Compact . COM>
Date: Mon, 25 Aug 1997 13:43:35 -0500
To: majordomo-users @ greatcircle . com
Reply-to: "A. Lester Buck III" <buck @ compact . com>


Recently I asked for advice on moving a Majordomo list, but I
didn't receive any help on the main issue, which is how to get
the word out to the stragglers that are still sending a subscribe
message to a disabled Majordomo list.  I thought about the problem
some more and it seemed the solution might be in a procmail script
as a front end to the Majordomo alias, so I posted a query to
the procmail mailing list.  Below is my post to that list, and
a very useful reply posted by Chuq Von Rospach, also a member
of majordomo-users.  I implemented Chuq's scheme and it works
like a charm.  Thanks, Chuq!

My original query to the procmail list:

======================
I was running a Majordomo mailing list on my home computer until
a few months ago, when it moved to a large LISTSERV machine
across the country.  From the various announcements still
existing around the Internet, I continue to receive a trickle of
subscription requests for that list to my Majordomo installation.
I would like to have a filter on the front end that will send an
informational message whenever it sees that mailing list name,
so I don't have to keep checking for and mailing by hand in
response to these inquiries.

Majordomo continues in operation on my machine, even though that
particular list is now disabled, and I want to make sure that
new subscribers still find their way onto the list.  I would also
like to avoid modifying the perl code in Majordomo, for reasons
of simplicity and upward compatibility.

Mail comes addressed to Majordomo, which is a sendmail alias:

majordomo: "|/usr/local/majordomo/wrapper majordomo", /usr/majordomo/archive/majordomo

If incoming mail to this alias contains a certain string LISTNAME,
I would like to reply with a canned message and then throw away
the message, otherwise pass it to Majordomo as normal.

Can anyone offer any suggestions for how to solve this problem?

Lester
======================

And Chuq's reply:

======================
To: procmail Maillist <procmail@informatik.rwth-aachen.de>
From: Chuq Von Rospach <chuqui@plaidworks.com>

At 1:31 PM -0700 8/21/97, A. Lester Buck III wrote:
>Mail comes addressed to Majordomo, which is a sendmail alias:
>
>majordomo: "|/usr/local/majordomo/wrapper majordomo",
>/usr/majordomo/archive/majordomo

first, set up your aliases a bit differently:

majordomo: "| /usr/local/bin/procmail -m /etc/procmailrcs/majordomo-front"
majordomo-real: "|/usr/local/majordomo/wrapper majordomo",
/usr/majordomo/archive/majordomo

Then, in the majordomo-front file (make sure it's owned by majordomo's
account for safety),

:0 B
* listname-you-want-to-match
<build a mailbot to respond. See the procmailex man page for examples>

:0
! majordomo-real

What list does is check the body of the message for the name
of the list you want to intercept.If you find it, you do the
mailbot-thing with formail, the X-loop: stuff, etc. Whatever
level of sophistication you want. If it doesn't, fall through
and simply pass it along to the majordomo to play with.

I'm doing a lot of this kind of thing bulding bozo-filters on
my lists.  It comes in real handy and saves hacking at majordomo,
and lets me build in situation-directed help (instead of blatting
out a generic 10K help file every time someone makes a mistake,
actually tell them what their mistake was and how to fix it...)

you could also call majordomo directly by replacing !majordomo-real
with:

:O c
/usr/majordomo/archive/majordomo

:0
|/usr/local/majordomo/wrapper majordomo

which might be more efficient but easier to forget where all the
pieces are when things need to be updated or changed. Whichever
you prefer...


--
         Chuq Von Rospach (chuq@apple.com) Apple IS&T Mail List Gnome
                 <http://www.solutions.apple.com/ListAdmin/>

 Plaidworks Consulting (chuqui@plaidworks.com) <http://www.plaidworks.com/>
   (<http://www.plaidworks.com/hockey/> +-+ The home for Hockey on the net)
======================

Best regards,

Lester

--
A. Lester Buck		buck@compact.com



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