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Subject: Need H*lp with Remote Mail Loop
From: Mitchell Leben <mitch @ leben . com>
Date: Fri, 24 Oct 1997 00:27:20 -0500 (CDT)
To: majordomo-users @ GreatCircle . COM
Reply-to: Mitchell Leben <mitch @ leben . com>

Beginning today, messages are appearing on one of my lizts twice (maybe
more?). I do not believe this is a sendmail issue, based on the headers.
Somehow a remote system is causing me grief, and I would really appreciate
some h*lp analyzing these headers.

The lizt is named epson-inkjet@leben.com. Here are the headers from the
same message which appeared twice on the list. First, the normal header,
the the odd one.

Normal Header:
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

>From Michael_Laird@avid.com Thu Oct 23 23:49:25 1997
Return-Path: <owner-epson-inkjet@leben.com>
Received: from localhost (mail@localhost)
	by spock.leben.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id IAA27216;
	Thu, 23 Oct 1997 08:26:30 -0500
Received: by spock.leben.com (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 23 Oct 1997 08:26:05 -0500
Received: (from majordomo@localhost)
	by spock.leben.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) id IAA27184
	for epson-inkjet-list; Thu, 23 Oct 1997 08:26:03 -0500
Received: from question.avid.com (question.avid.com [152.165.15.43])
	by spock.leben.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA27181
	for <epson-inkjet@leben.com>; Thu, 23 Oct 1997 08:26:01 -0500
Received: from mlairdpc (mlairdpc.avid.com) by question.avid.com with ESMTP
	(1.37.109.16/16.2) id AA114083237; Thu, 23 Oct 1997 09:27:17 -0400
Message-Id: <344F506C.3A3D7963@avid.com>
Date: Thu, 23 Oct 1997 09:26:04 -0400
From: Michael Laird <Michael_Laird@avid.com>
Organization: Avid Technology
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.01 [en] (WinNT; U)
Mime-Version: 1.0
To: epson-inkjet@leben.com
Subject: Re: cleaning cycles and FAQ
X-Priority: 3 (Normal)
References: 199710231017.KAA14834@babylon.bucks.net
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Sender: owner-epson-inkjet@leben.com
Reply-To: epson-inkjet@leben.com


Odd Header:
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

>From Michael_Laird@avid.com Thu Oct 23 23:49:14 1997
Return-Path: <owner-epson-inkjet@leben.com>
Received: from localhost (mail@localhost)
	by spock.leben.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id RAA03636;
	Thu, 23 Oct 1997 17:55:51 -0500
Received: by spock.leben.com (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 23 Oct 1997 17:55:23 -0500
Received: (from majordomo@localhost)
	by spock.leben.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) id RAA03605
	for epson-inkjet-list; Thu, 23 Oct 1997 17:55:22 -0500
Received: from mail.redrose.net (mail.redrose.net [204.249.184.22])
	by spock.leben.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id RAA03602
	for <epson-inkjet@leben.com>; Thu, 23 Oct 1997 17:55:19 -0500
Received: (qmail 14564 invoked by uid 0); 23 Oct 1997 21:30:24 -0000
Received: (qmail 30020 invoked from network); 23 Oct 1997 13:35:15 -0000
Received: from unknown (HELO www14.clever.net) (jclark@209.27.45.1)
  by mail.redrose.net with SMTP; 23 Oct 1997 13:35:15 -0000
Received: (from jclark@localhost) by www14.clever.net (8.8.6/8.6.9) id JAA11960 for jgaidos@desupernet.net; Thu, 23 Oct 1997 09:34:08 -0400 (EDT)
Received: from spock.leben.com ([198.64.225.44] (may be forged)) by
www14.clever.net (8.8.6/8.6.9) with ESMTP id JAA11957 for <Jim@Econdata.com>; Thu, 23 Oct 1997 09:34:06 -0400 (EDT)
Received: from localhost (mail@localhost)
	by spock.leben.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id IAA27204;
	Thu, 23 Oct 1997 08:26:15 -0500
Received: by spock.leben.com (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 23 Oct 1997 08:26:05 -0500
Received: (from majordomo@localhost)
	by spock.leben.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) id IAA27184
	for epson-inkjet-list; Thu, 23 Oct 1997 08:26:03 -0500
Received: from question.avid.com (question.avid.com [152.165.15.43])
	by spock.leben.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA27181
	for <epson-inkjet@leben.com>; Thu, 23 Oct 1997 08:26:01 -0500
Received: from mlairdpc (mlairdpc.avid.com) by question.avid.com with ESMTP
	(1.37.109.16/16.2) id AA114083237; Thu, 23 Oct 1997 09:27:17 -0400
Message-Id: <344F506C.3A3D7963@avid.com>
Date: Thu, 23 Oct 1997 09:26:04 -0400
From: Michael Laird <Michael_Laird@avid.com>
Organization: Avid Technology
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.01 [en] (WinNT; U)
Mime-Version: 1.0
To: epson-inkjet@leben.com
Subject: Re: cleaning cycles and FAQ
X-Priority: 3 (Normal)
References: 199710231017.KAA14834@babylon.bucks.net
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Sender: owner-epson-inkjet@leben.com
Reply-To: epson-inkjet@leben.com

++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
End Odd Header

As you can see, the second header involves some rather odd hops.
Specifically:

Received: from mail.redrose.net (mail.redrose.net [204.249.184.22])
	by spock.leben.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id RAA03602
	for <epson-inkjet@leben.com>; Thu, 23 Oct 1997 17:55:19 -0500
Received: (qmail 14564 invoked by uid 0); 23 Oct 1997 21:30:24 -0000
Received: (qmail 30020 invoked from network); 23 Oct 1997 13:35:15 -0000
Received: from unknown (HELO www14.clever.net) (jclark@209.27.45.1)
  by mail.redrose.net with SMTP; 23 Oct 1997 13:35:15 -0000
Received: (from jclark@localhost) by www14.clever.net (8.8.6/8.6.9) id JAA11960 for jgaidos@desupernet.net; Thu, 23 Oct 1997 09:34:08 -0400 (EDT)
Received: from spock.leben.com ([198.64.225.44] (may be forged)) by www14.clever.net (8.8.6/8.6.9) with ESMTP id JAA11957 for <Jim@Econdata.com>; Thu, 23 Oct 1997 09:34:06 -0400 (EDT)
Received: from localhost (mail@localhost)
	by spock.leben.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id IAA27204;
	Thu, 23 Oct 1997 08:26:15 -0500
Received: by spock.leben.com (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 23 Oct 1997 08:26:05 -0500


Jim@Econdata.com is a member of the epson-inkjet list, and I have
unzubscribed his account. There is no record of jclark or
jgaidos@desupernet.net or any redrose account on this list.

If anyone can help to explain what is really going on here, I would really
appreciate the feedback.

Much thanks.

-Mitch



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