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Subject: Re: Bounced message from valid list member
From: Bill Houle <Bill . Houle @ SanDiegoCA . NCR . COM>
Date: Wed, 17 Dec 1997 14:47:59 -0800
To: BEN PFLANZ <pflanz @ jinx . umsl . edu>, majordomo-users @ GreatCircle . COM
In-reply-to: <199712171759.LAA27799@jinx.umsl.edu>

This is what I would term a "redirected" message, not a "forwarded"
message. Both Elm and Eudora have "bounce" or "redirect" mechanisms that
make the mail appear as if there was no intermediate recipient (the
bouncer). Majordomo does not support Resent-From headers.

So really, everything is as it should be. I would file this one under "user
error", or (assuming this VM mailer has no other true forwarding option)
"bad mailer".

--bill


At 11:59 AM 12/17/97 -0600, BEN PFLANZ wrote:
>Hi,
>  I'm having a rather strange problem with BOUNCES from valid list memebers.
>The list in question is a closed list but not moderated.  What is happening
>is a person on the list is forwarding a message to the list but the MJ is
>reading the original "FROM:" header from the original sender who is not a
>member of the list.  The user sending the email to the list is using and OLD
>IBM VM email program.  Here is an example of my tests:
>
>---------------------------------------------------------------
>Date: Wed, 17 Dec 1997 11:31:28 -0600 (CST)
>To: owner-test@lists.umsl.edu
>Subject: BOUNCE test@lists.umsl.edu:    Non-member submission from [Ben
Pflanz 
><ben@joejr.umsl.edu>]   
> 
>>From test-owner  Wed Dec 17 11:31:24 1997
>Received: from UMSLVMA.UMSL.EDU (umslvma.umsl.edu [134.124.1.2]) by
lists.umsl.
>edu (8.8.5/8.7.2) with SMTP id LAA04078 for <test@lists.umsl.edu>; Wed, 17
Dec 
>1997 11:31:24 -0600 (CST)
>Resent-Message-Id: <199712171731.LAA04078@lists.umsl.edu>
>Received: from UMSLVMA by UMSLVMA.UMSL.EDU (IBM VM SMTP V2R2)
>   with BSMTP id 5437; Wed, 17 Dec 97 11:32:56 CST
>Received: from UMSLVMA (C1899011) by UMSLVMA (Mailer R2.10 ptf000) with BSMTP
> id 8426; Wed, 17 Dec 97 11:32:56 CST
>Resent-Date:  Wed, 17 Dec 97 11:32:34 CST
>Resent-From: what <C1899011@umslvma.umsl.edu>
>Resent-To: test@lists.umsl.edu
>Received: from UMSLVMA by UMSLVMA (Mailer R2.10 ptf000) with BSMTP id 8344;
> Wed, 17 Dec 97 11:31:41 CST
>Received: from joejr.umsl.edu by UMSLVMA.UMSL.EDU (IBM VM SMTP V2R2) with
TCP;
>   Wed, 17 Dec 97 11:31:07 CST
>Received: by joejr.umsl.edu (NX5.67c/NX3.0S)
>        id AA17880; Wed, 17 Dec 97 12:14:35 -0600
>Date: Wed, 17 Dec 97 12:14:35 -0600
>From: Ben Pflanz <ben@joejr.umsl.edu>
>Message-Id: <9712171814.AA17880@joejr.umsl.edu>
>To: c1899011@umslvma.umsl.edu
>Subject: test
> 
>just to see if this breaks!
> 
>----------------------------Original message----------------------------
>test to see if this message gets forwarded.
>
>-----------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
>The persons email address that forwarding the message is in the
"Resent-From:"
>part of the mail header.  Any ideas on this one?
>
>
>							Ben Pflanz
>
>
>


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