> Oh, boy, a Microsoft product and two packages that compete with that
> Microsoft product on the bullet chart. Not what anyone with a clue would
> consider a relevant comparison.
And control, what, 95% of the mail market between them?
> Bullshit. It is a toy operating system that dominates the toy computer
> industry. Even Microsoft uses Unix for their high availability network
> servers.
And goodness knows, most of the people using email services on the net are
working off those high availability network servers.
> Wake up! Wayne (and everyone else). Stop regurgitating the hype and join
> the real world.
And cut the holier than thou crap. The real world is that Windows is about
90% of the computer users on the entire planet. Several hundred million
installed users. Those who stick their head in the sand and complain that
everyone should use elm because plain text is what they used in the good ol'
days of (fill in the blank) is missing the point. I started with elm too, and
use it for my mj-owner and list-owner accounts.
But the net is changing.
That doesn't mean we should follow blindly, of course not. But it doesn't
mean that you should just reject everything that's new. Blindly dismissing
all Windows users as unimportant is just the same as deciding that all the
Unix users are useless old fools. Both are bad decisions.
Look, I don't allow HTML mail or any non-text messages through my list, but
the fact is that soon, they will be the standard. And while you can whine all
you want about RFC xxx, the standard is created when 10 million people use
something, not when a bunch of sysadmins decide to upgrade. Yeah, that's not
a good scenario, but welcome to the real world. Marketing wins.
Between Outlook Express, Outlook 98, Netscape Messenger, and Eudora, you're
talking millions and millions of users. That's a hell of a lot more people
than the Unix sysadmins who sit there and trash "Windoze" because they hate
the fact time moves on without them, and it doesn't follow their preferred
development path.
The fact that Majordomo should have some plan as to how to deal with these
messages shouldn't even be worth discussing -- if it wants to continue to be
the solid, option-full piece of software is is, then yes, of course it has to.
Now, as to how to go about this, sure, that's a topic that is worth
discussing, but ignoring the issue and waving your hand and dismissing all
Windows users as "toy users" isn't a suitable way to debate.
Now, Macs, THOSE are toys. <kidding!> ;)
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