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Subject: Re: Multiple copies with multiple lists
From: Dave Sill <de5 @ sws5 . ctd . ornl . gov>
Organization: Oak Ridge National Lab, Oak Ridge, Tenn., USA
Date: Wed, 12 Aug 1998 08:11:01 -0400 (EDT)
To: majordomo-users @ GreatCircle . COM
In-reply-to: <199808111631.JAA07362@sparc.sandiegoca.ncr.com>
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Bill Houle <bhoule@sparc.sandiegoca.ncr.com> wrote:
>Jonathan Morace said:
>> 
>> Is there any other MTA which can handle this kind of situation? 
>
>Probably not.

Right, and it's really not the MTA's job to throw away messages on the 
user's behalf. Duplicate elimination is an MUA/MDA function. Procmail, 
for example, can do it via recipes like:

  # Use a 10Kb cache of Message IDs received to avoid duplicate messages
  :0 Whc: .msgid.lock
  | formail -D 10240 .msgid.cache
  
  # Save probable duplicates for inspection
  :0 a:
  spool/dupes

>With something like qmail (each individual message is its own
>connection), it might even be worse.

No, qmail could eliminate some duplicates if it wanted to, but it
doesn't. qmail does what it's told to do, and doesn't second guess the
user.

I have list mail delivered to separate mailboxes using qmail's
extension addresses, e.g., de5-listname@sws5.ctd.ornl.gov goes to
~/Mail/spool/listname. If someone replies to a message I post to a
list and cc's de5@sws5.ctd.ornl.gov, I'll get two copies: one in my
main mailbox and another in the list mailbox. I want this behavior. It
might be days before I check the list mailbox, so the copy in my main
mailbox alerts me to the reply and I can respond in a timely manner--
or simply delete the message if no immediate reply is required. I
don't want any "smart" MTA's deciding I only need one copy.

-Dave


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