I think these are valid points. The reasonable answer, it seems to me, is
to be proactive, and do something. I'd be happy to host a beginner's
list, as I'm sure many others on this list would be.
For free software, if you would like to see more documentation, then start
a project to write more documentation. My experience is that users of
free software are very willing to share their knowledge and experience.
Such a project might even produce a book, that could make money!
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On Sun, 9 Jan 2000, Menthol wrote:
> Micheal and All,
> After much curiousity I finally got around to installing MD via my web
> host's provided Control Panel software and have been amazed at how there
> doesn't seem to be any "beginner's documentation" for the software. I
> haven't even gotten around to messing with the digest and I'm still
> wondering about things such as how to administer a list from remote and
> such--as head shakingly sad as that reads...
> My point being though that it would seem that these web hosting
> companies that give us the option to install MD is somewhat of a
> mistake. It would seem from what little time I've monitored this users'
> list that most people have MD installed on their server and have direct
> access to components/dox that I obviously do not. I've been in the
> computer biz for many years (such as many others have I am sure) and
> this software would seem to me to be something that is best put in the
> hands of someone who has "first person contact" with the server
> Nevertheless, I will take the sound of crickets or a good tongue lashing
> for asking the question to a list which obviously has users that aren't
> really having any trouble/complaints with the most basic workings of the
> MD software. I do not want to sound combative, I am just looking for
> someone who has experienced this same thing and may have some
> constructive ideas on how to maybe throw up some better documentation
> out there somewhere if it's not been done already.
> Q: Is there not a more informative FAQ or online documentation for
> MajorDomo that reveals, 1. Some of the most basic tasks to setting up
> and managing a list which including focus on the actual script's inner
> workings? 2. Stand-alone utilities that simplify the editing of the base
> script and text configuration itself? 3. Dox on remote administration of
> a list?
> In my case, I have been drug around by the nose via my web host's MD
> configuration software and have, what I believe, to be a "working
> understanding" of what MD can do and how to setup a list, but, I have
> yet to experience it working as specified. Such as creating a list
> (simple) and then subscribing to the list (and having a friend do so
> too) and then trying to mail the list and seeing results as would be
> expected. ie. Writing to your_list@your_domain.com and everyone on the
> list seeing the message in short order and being able to reply as easily
> as services such as Onelist.com etc. etc.
> I'd think (from my experience so far) that GreatCircle would have
> considered email@example.com or maybe even more
> appropriately firstname.lastname@example.org... ;) I wouldn't be the
> least bit embarassed to join such a list yet have probably have typed
> myself into a "don't give the car keys to the drunk guy at the party"
> I guess we will see... <burp!> :)
> Michael Donohue wrote:
> > I really hate to send this to the list, but I am at my wits end.
> > I have MD setup on a virtual server and I can't seem to get
> > digest working. I've read every doc, FAQ and readme in the
> > archive, and I really can't seem to figure this out. If anyone
> > can take 2 minutes to drop me a line directly off of the list
> > it would be greatly appreciated.